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This is our eleventh election in this project. The entire rules follow.
This election will run through 11:59:59 PM EST May 8, 2009.
The prior election, and the ballots of the 1945 voters, are in this thread
This is our eleventh election in this project. The entire rules follow.
This election will run through 11:59:59 PM EST May 8, 2009.
The prior election, and the ballots of the 1945 voters, are in this thread
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
1) All BBF users in good standing may participate. However, if there is more than one vote being cast from any one computer or IP, it must be cleared in advance, or only the first vote will be counted. I only anticipate exceptions for family members living in the same home, but I will entertain requests on other bases. Please note that I and the other mods who participate in the project have the capability of determining the IP from which posts come, and I for one intend to monitor same. I have had to deal with a single user manipulating a project with multiple votes, and I don't intend to repeat the experience.
2) Elections will require a 10 voter quorum. If we do not get ten voters and there are candidate(s) who would be elected no matter what the voters needed to make a quorum did, those candidate(s) will be inducted. Otherwise, no one will be inducted. Further, if we fail to meet a quorum in two of any four consecutive elections, the project will end. If, for instance, we're doing fine on the player end but not the contributor end, I would drop the contributor end under this rule.
3) We will start in 1936, just as Cooperstown did. For the first election (1936), voters will rank their top 20, taking 10. After that we will go to having voters rank their top 12 players. Points awarded 12-11-10, etc. We will take the top five through 1940, then top three players per year elected until 2010, then two per year. If a voter does not number his selections, I will try to get him/her to do so. If they do not do so before the end of the election period, I may in my sole discretion invalidate the ballot. I have included this provision in order to ease the process of recording the votes. On another point, I know, the 1936 backlog is huge--but that was a historical issue they couldn't avoid, so neither will we.
4) We will also have a contributor ballot, which will elect one a year through 1985, then one every three (3) years. Contributors will be ranked 1 through 5, with points awarded 5-4-3-2-1. Voters may choose to participate in either one of the ballots or both.
5) It is permissible to vote for a candidate on both the contributor and player lists.
6) You are allowed to change your ballot at any time the ballot is open. However, if you change your ballot, you've got to notify me (jalbright) by PM or by a new post in the voting thread, or the changes likely will not be registered.
7) Players are eligible at the later of age 45 or the first year thereafter in which the player does not play. If the birthdate is not known, add five years to the first time the player misses a season and has less than 10 games the next season. There is an exception for early death, in which case the year of death plus two will be used if that yields an earlier date.
8) Contributors become eligible at age 65 or in the year of death plus two. whichever comes first.
9) Each election will run for two weeks unless expressly altered by the project manager, contributors and players done simultaneously.
10) No one is ineligible, nor are players from any league ineligible. If there are players who returned to the Negro Leagues or Japan after going to the majors, the departure from the majors will be their career end date for purposes of this project. Candidates will not lose eligiblity after becoming eligible except by being elected as either a contributor or player.
11) The standard for including a player on one's ballot is that the player must in the voter's opinion be among the very best eligible players (preferably the number voted on, but if a voter wishes to support someone they feel is 15th in a 12 person ballot instead of one of the top 12, it's too close for anyone to reasonably object. On the other hand, supporting the 25th best eligible candidate on a 12 person ballot is probably beyond the pale). I reserve the power to invalidate ballots which I do not feel are a reasonably knowledgeable, good faith effort to rank the players. One issue I am quite concerned about is that I do not want to see what clearly appear to be attempts to manipulate the ballot so as to elect a candidate. In isolation, I probably could live with this, but if it became a widely used tactic, the project would devolve into something I have no desire to be associated with. Moreover, I think that this position asks everyone else to cast legitimate votes so that you can manipulate the system to favor your pet candidates. I cannot accept that, as it strikes me as unfair to other voters. For example, you can't expect to favor even a legitimate HOF candidate like Bill Dahlen over Babe Ruth to get Dahlen elected without being asked to provide a reasonable justification for ranking Dahlen over Ruth. If you can provide a reasonable justification in that scenario, the ballot will stand. If not, you will be asked to make a change. Certainly, a reasonable justification does not indicate in essence simply that you want Dahlen elected. Furthermore, if I invalidate multiple ballots by the same individual as failing to meet this rule, that individual will forever lose the right to have his/her ballots counted. Voters are encouraged to consider character, sportsmanship, and compliance with the rules and spirit of baseball in their rankings of players.
12) I will post lists of eligible players and contributors before each election. If you have a question about the eligibility of a candidate, please ask. I will provide a list of future eligibility dates as well.
13) My eligibility lists come from all persons in the BBF HOF, BBTF Hall of Merit, and Cooperstown, plus all persons getting a vote in a BBF HOF election in the past year and a half or in a BBWAA election. This is a relatively comprehensive list, and thus I must request that if you want another candidate included, you provide some justification for why said candidate is worthy of getting a vote in this project. The main area I think this might come into play is if a voter supports a person who was eligible for the final selections from the recent pre WWII or Negro League committees but not on my master list. That fact alone would serve as ample justification for putting said candidate on the list. We may learn more about Cuban ball or what have you and thus include others after a case is made for them, however. The contributor list is undoubtedly not as comprehensive, and this fact will be taken into consideration.
14) Other than the sportsmanship and character issues, players are to be evaluated solely upon their play. I would prefer that if a player is qualified by his play standing alone that he be elected on that basis. However, a candidate may only be elected either as a contributor or a player, but not both. Contributors are the area where the entire body of work during his career in the sport, including his play, managing, scouting, executive, writing, broadcasting or other work in the sport is relevant. Contributors are to be ranked based on who the voter thinks is most worthy of induction into the Contributor group in this project.
15) Any ballot with two (2) or more spots unfilled with eligible candidates is invalid. In the event of the listing of ineligible names, I will try to notify the voter so that he/she can correct the ballot before the end of the voting period. If the change is made timely, it will count. If not, and there are two or more invalid names, the ballot will not be considered valid. If there is only one, the ineligible name will be stricken and all names after it on the affected ballot will be moved up one spot.
16) Any players listed beyond the 12th place for any ballot but the first (in which case it is 20th place) will be ignored. If more than one person is listed as tied for the last available place and the ballot is oversize, all names will be dropped, which may lead to the invalidation of the ballot.
17) Ties are not permitted in ballot listings. I reserve the right to invalidate ballots for use of ties in the rankings, be it within a single ballot or over the course of several ballots. If the voter does not correct such a listing voluntarily, except in the case of an oversize ballot tie for the last eligible place, if do not invalidate the ballot, I will choose the placement of the two "tied" candidates, generally preferring the candidate preferred by the other voters.
18) For any ties between candidates straddling the in/out line of selections, the first thing considered is the ranking of the candidates by the ballots cast. If there are more than two candidates tied, use a 3-2-1 or whatever is appropriate system. Once one person separates from the tied group, restart with the remaining candidates until there are only as many candidates as the rules call for being elected. If they remain tied after this process, take those with the most #1 votes as the next step, then the most #2 votes and so on to see if that breaks the tie. If not, we will induct all candidates who remain tied at that point.
19) One thing we're going to have to be aware of is the timeline in the case of at least a few contributors. Two which jump out at me are Buck O'Neill, 1976, and Branch Rickey, 1946. I intend to eventually vote for both men, but in 1946, Jackie Robinson was still in Montreal. Really, Branch should wait until at least 1947 after Jackie's success in the majors to get credit for that move. If you think Rickey belongs in the top 5 in 1946 without his role in breaking the color line, that's fine--but he shouldn't get credit for that important success until it actually happened. Buck O'Neill did some important things up until 1976, but after that he was in Ken Burns' Baseball and he was instrumental in the establishment of the Negro Leagues Hall of Fame (both occurred in or around 1994). If you think he belongs based on accomplishments before those two things, that's perfectly acceptable, but please don't credit him with them before they actually happened.
20) I reserve the right to hold both 19th century and Negro League special elections in 2000 if we don't have a sufficient number in those categories by then. These elections probably will be limited to voters I feel are appropriately versed on the group of players to be considered. I do wish to only use this as a last resort, however, and only to ensure that those groups received what I regard as at least adequate bare minimum representation. I do not plan on sharing with you what I consider to meet those bare minimum standards, but I think that the numbers I am thinking of are well below the number of candidates that well informed observers believe are well qualified candidates from each group.
21) I will maintain a thread of the project's history and rules which will provide a listing of all elected candidates.
22) Feel free to ask questions by either sending jalbright a PM, or by posting a question in voting thread
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
The players who become eligible in 1945 are:
There are only two contributor candidates becoming eligible in 1946, Ed Bolden and Branch RickeyCode:Bush , Guy Fitzsimmons , Freddie Manush , Heinie Sewell , Luke Stearnes , Turkey Sukeforth , Clyde Wilson , Jud Wright , Glenn
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
The 1944 player candidates who were not elected had these results in the 1944 election:
The 1944 contributor candidates who were not elected had these results in the 1944 election:Code:player .. votes points Hines , Paul 12 91 Suttles , Mule 12 87 Clarke , Fred 12 69 Barnes , Ross 9 68 Sisler , George 9 61 Jackson , Joe 6 57 Collins , Jimmy 9 56 Goslin , Goose 10 53 Magee , Sherry 8 51 Vance , Dazzy 9 42 Wheat , Zack 6 39 Radbourn , C 8 34 Start , Joe 3 23 Keeler , Willie 4 22 Traynor , Pie 4 22 Thompson , S 3 21 Bennett , C 3 20 Johnson , HR 3 20 Carey , Max 2 15 Waddell , Rube 4 15 Flick , Elmer 3 14 Groh , Heinie 3 14 Stovey , Harry 4 13 Lyons , Ted 3 12 McPhee , Bid 3 11 Sutton , Ezra 2 11 Grant , Frank 3 10 Joss , Addie 1 10 Terry , Bill 4 10 Maranville , R 3 9 Coveleski , S 2 8 Galvin , Pud 1 7 Chance , Frank 1 6 Caruthers , B 1 5 Gore , George 1 5 Pearce , Dickey 1 5 McGinnity , Joe 1 4 Browning , P 2 3 Roush , Edd 1 3 Tinker, Joe 1 3 Evers , Johnny 1 2 Jennings , H 1 2 Bresnahan , R 1 1 Duffy , Hugh 1 1
I strongly suggest that you pay attention to this list, as the leaders of the holdovers are likely to join any strong newcomer candidates as the leaders for winning induction.Code:contributor votes points Richter , F 11 37 Klem, Bill 14 35 Cartwright , A 7 33 Landis , K 8 19 Barrow , Ed 8 18 Reach , A. J. 5 11 Commiskey , C 3 7 Pearce, Dickey 2 7 Spink, Albert 2 6 Clarke , Fred 1 4 Hanlon , Ned 1 4 Doubleday , A 1 3 Dunn , Jack 1 3 Taylor , C. I. 1 3 Conlan , C 1 2 Connolly , Tom 1 1 Selee , Frank 1 1
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
Members of the Best of Baseball Hall
ContributorsCode:Pete Alexander Cap Anson Frank Baker Dan Brouthers Mordecai Brown Jesse Burkett Oscar Charleston John Clarkson Ty Cobb Eddie Collins Roger Connor Sam Crawford Bill Dahlen George Davis Ed Delahanty Buck Ewing Frankie Frisch Lou Gehrig Lefty Grove Billy Hamilton Gabby Hartnett Harry Heilmann Rogers Hornsby Walter Johnson Tim Keefe King Kelly Nap LaJoie Pop Lloyd Christy Mathewson Kid Nichols Jim O'Rourke Eddie Plank Bullet Joe Rogan Amos Rusie Babe Ruth Louis Santop Tris Speaker Cristobal Torriente Honus Wagner Ed Walsh John M. Ward Deacon White Smoky Joe Williams George Wright Cy Young
Code:Doc Adams Henry Chadwick Jim Creighton Rube Foster William Hulbert Ban Johnson Connie Mack John McGraw Al Spalding Harry Wright
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
The complete list of eligible players:
The complete list of eligible contributors (Please note John M. Ward has been elected as a player and thus is no longer eligible):Code:Adams , Babe Adams , Sparky Altrock , Nick Archer , Jimmy Arlett , Buzz Austin , Jimmy Bancroft , Dave Barnes , Ross Barry , Jack Battin , Joe Beaumont , Ginger Beckley , Jake Bender , Chief Bennett , Charlie Benton , Larry Bergen , Marty Bigbee , Carson Bishop , Max Blades , Ray Blue , Lu Bluege , Ossie Bodie , Ping Boley , Joe Bond , Tommy Bottomley , Jim Bradley , Bill Breitenstein , Ted Bresnahan , Roger Browning , Pete Burns , George J. Bush , Joe Bush , Donie Bush , Guy Cadore , Leon Camnitz , Howie Carey , Max Carrigan , Bill Caruthers , Bob Chance , Frank Chapman , Ray Chase , Hal Chesbro , Jack Childs , Cupid Cicotte , Eddie Clarke , Fred Coakley , Andy Collins , Jimmy Collins , Shano Combs , Earle Conroy , Wid Coombs , Jack Cooper , Andy Cooper , Wilbur Coveleski , Stan Crandall , Doc Cravath , Gavvy Creighton , Jim Criger , Lou Critz , Hughie Cross , Lave Crowder , Al Cruise , Walt Cummings , Candy Cuyler , Kiki Daubert , Jake Davis , Harry Dinneen , Bill Doak , Bill Donlin , Mike Donovan , Bill Dooin , Red Doyle , Jack Doyle , Larry Duffy , Hugh Dugan , Joe Dunlap , Fred Dykes , Jimmy Earnshaw , George Ehmke , Howard Elberfeld , Kid Elliott , Jumbo Ens , Jewel Evers , Johnny Faber , Red Falkenberg , Cy Fitzsimmons , Freddie Fletcher , Art Flick , Elmer Fonseca , Lew Foster , Eddie Fraser , Chick Galvin , Pud Glasscock , Jack Gleason , Kid Gonzalez , Mike Gore , George Goslin , Goose Gowdy , Hank Grant , Eddie Grant , Frank Grantham , George Griffith , Clark Grimes , Burleigh Grimm , Charlie Groh , Heinie Hahn , Noodles Haines , Jesse Hargrave , Bubbles Harris , Bucky Herzog , Buck Hill , Pete Hinchman , Bill Hines , Paul Hooper , Harry Hoyt , Waite Huggins , Miller Irwin , Charlie Jackman , Will Jackson , Joe Jennings , Hughie Johnson , Home Run Johnson , Judy Jones , Charley Jones , Fielder Jones , Sam P. Jordan , Tim Joss , Addie Judge , Joe Kamm , Willie Keeler , Willie Kelley , Joe Kerr , Dickie Killefer , Bill Kilroy , Matt Kling , Johnny Knabe , Otto Kremer , Ray Lange , Bill Larkin , Henry Latham , Arlie Leach , Freddy Leach , Tommy Leever , Sam Lewis , Duffy Lobert , Hans Long , Herman Lowe , Bobby Lundy , Dick Luque , Dolf Lyons , Denny Lyons , Ted Magee , Sherry Manush , Heinie Maranville , Rabbit Marberry , Firpo Marquard , Rube Mathews , Bobby Mays , Carl McAleer , Jimmy McCarthy , Tommy McCormick , Jim McGinnity , Joe McGowan , Bill McInnis , Stuffy McLean , Larry McManus , Marty McPhee , Bid McVey , Cal Meadows , Lee Mendez , Jose Meusel , Bob Milan , Clyde Miller , Bing Miller , Dots Miller , Hack Moore , Dobie Moran , Pat Mostil , Johnny Mullane , Tony Murphy , Danny Murray , Red Nehf , Art O'Doul , Lefty Oeschger , Joe O'Farrell , Bob O'Leary , Charlie Oms , Alejandro O'Neill , Steve O'Neill , Tip Orr , Dave Pabor , Charlie Paskert , Dode Pearce , Dickey Peckinpaugh , Roger Peitz , Heinie Pennock , Herb Perdue , Hub Perkins , Cy Phillippe , Deacon Pike , Lip Pipp , Wally Poles , Spotswood Pruett , Hub Quinn , Jack Radbourn , Charlie Raymond , Bugs Redding , Dick Remsen , Jack Rice , Sam Richardson , Hardy Ring , Jimmy Ritchey , Claude Rixey , Eppa Robertson , Dave Rommel , Eddie Root , Charlie Roush , Edd Rucker , Nap Rudolph , Dick Ruel , Muddy Ryan , Jimmy Schacht , Al Schaefer , Germany Schalk , Ray Schang , Wally Schreckengost , Ossie Schulte , Frank Scott , Everett Scott , Jack Severeid , Hank Sewell , Joe Sewell , Luke Seymour , Cy Sheckard , Jimmy Sherdel , Bill Shocker , Urban Sisler , George Smith , Earl Smith , Sherry Sparks , Tully Stahl , Jake Start , Joe Stearnes , Turkey Steinfeldt , Harry Stephenson , Riggs Stovey , Harry Street , Gabby Sukeforth , Clyde Suttles , Mule Sutton , Ezra Sweeney , Bill Tannehill , Jesse Taylor , Ben Tenney , Fred Terry , Bill Thomas , Ira Thompson , Sam Tiernan , Mike Tinker , Joe Toney , Fred Traynor , Pie Turner , Terry Uhle , George Van Haltren , George Vance , Dazzy Veach , Bobby Waddell , Rube Walberg , Rube Wallace , Bobby Wambsganss , Bill Warfield , Frank Welch , Mickey Wheat , Zack White , Sol White , Will Whitehill , Earl Williams , Cy Williams , Ken Williamson , Ned Willis , Vic Wilson , Hack Wilson , Jimmie Wilson , Jud Witt , Whitey Wood , Joe Wright , Glenn Yerkes , Steve Youngs , Ross Zachary , Tom Zimmer , Chief
Code:Abe , Iso Bancroft , Frank Barrow , Ed Bolden, Ed Bulkely , Morgan Cartwright , Alexander Caylor , O. P. Chance , Frank Clarke , Fred Commiskey , Charlie Conlan , Charles Connolly , Tom Cooper , Andy Cummings , Candy Dinneen , Bill Doubleday , Abner Dreyfuss , Barney Dunn , Jack Elias , Al Munro Foster , John B. Fullerton , Hugh Gleason , Kid Griffith , Clark Hanlon , Ned Hillerich , John Huggins , Miller Jennings , Hughie Klem , Bill Landis , Kenesaw Lardner , Ring Leavitt, Jr. , Charles W. McCarthy , Tommy Mendez , Jose Mills , A. G. Moran , Pat Mutrie , Jim Navin , Frank Norworth, Jack Osborn , Frank Reach , A. J. Rice, Grantland Richter , Francis Rickey, Branch Robinson , Wilbert Ruppert , Jacob Selee , Frank Shibe , Ben Spink, Albert Stallings , George Taylor , C. I. Thayer , Ernest Warfield , Frank White , Sol Wilkinson , J. L. Wilson , Horace
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
My ballot:
1. Turkey Stearnes
2. Mule Suttles
3. Sherry Magee
4. Zack Wheat
5. Paul Hines
6. Jud Wilson
7. Fred Clarke
8. Dazzy Vance
9. Harry Stovey
10. Goose Goslin
11. Ted Lyons
12. Burleigh Grimes
1. Bill Klem
2. Francis Richter
3. Ed Barrow
4. Kennesaw Landis
5. Branch Rickey
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
Reminder #1: John Montgomery Ward has been elected as a player and thus is no longer eligible as a contributor.
Reminder #2: DO NOT credit Branch Rickey with success in breaching the major league color line until 1947. For this reason, while he's made my ballot for his work with the Cardinals and for preparing to make this move in 1946, he's currently #5. "If" Jackie Robinson succeeds in 1947, he'll move up if not elected, quite possibly (wink, wink) to #1.
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
1. Turkey Stearnes
2. Jimmy Collins
3. Max Carey
4. Dazzy Vance
5. Mule Suttles
6. Fred Clarke
7. Paul Hines
8. Jud Wilson
9. Sherry Magee
10. Goose Goslin
11. Ted Lyons
12. Zack Wheat
1. Alexander Cartwright
2. Francis Richter
3. Bill Klem
4. Ed Barrow
5. Kenesaw Landis
1. Joe Jackson
2. Fred Clarke
3. Zack Wheat
4. Goose Goslin
5. Sherry Magee
6. Willie Keeler
7. Sam Thompson
8. Elmer Flick
9. Bill Terry
10. Harry Stovey
11. Pete Browning
12. George Sisler
1. F. Richter
2. B. Klem
3. A. Cartwright
4. E. Barrow
5. K. Landis
"A ballplayer has to just go out and be mean. You can't play half-heartedly. If you do, there's someone right over your shoulder that'll take your job away. If you don't do your job, what they're paying you for, why should they pay you? You just can't put in eight hours, that's what a lot of people don't realize about athletes. Very few people realize the pressure." Dave Kingman
1. Turkey Stearnes
2. Jud Wilson
3. Ted Lyons
4. Paul Hines
5. Dazzy Vance
6. Elmer Flick
7. Ross Barnes
8. Grant "Home Run" Johnson
9. Stan Coveleski
10. Fred Clarke
11. Hughie Jennings
12. Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn
1. Turkey Stearnes
2. Jud Wilson
3. Jimmy Collins
4. Mule Suttles
5. Ross Barnes
6. George Sisler
7. Sam Thompson
8. Old Hoss Radbourn
9. Paul Hines
10. Zack Wheat
11. Frank Grant
12. Dazzy Vance
1. Francis Richter
2. C. I. Taylor
3. Bill Klem
4. Ed Barrow
5. Branch Rickey
1. Sherry Magee
2. Pie Traynor
3. Heinie Groh
4. Max Carey
5. Frank Chance
6. Rabbit Marranville
7. Bid McPhee
8. Joe Tinker
9. Johnny Evers
10. Roger Bresnahan
11. George Sisler
12. Johnny Kling
1. Charles Comiskey
2. Ed Barrow
3. Jack Dunn
4. A.J. Reach
5. Bill Klem
Last edited by Ubiquitous; 04-26-2009 at 09:13 AM.
1) Ross Barnes
2) Paul Hines
3) Fred Clarke
4) Turkey Stearnes
5) Jimmy Collins
6) Charlie Bennett
7) Dazzy Vance
8) Charlie Radbourne
9) Rube Waddell
10] Mule Suttles
11) Goose Goslin
12) Sherry Magee
1) Alexander Cartwright
2) Francis Richter
3) Dickey Pearce
4) Commissioner Landis
5) Bill Klem
1. Mule Suttles
2. Turkey Stearnes
3. Ross Barnes
4. Ezra Sutton
5. Joe Start
6. Jimmy Collins
7. Paul Hines
8. Goose Goslin
9. Charlie Bennett
10. Rabbit Maranville
11. George Sisler
12. Jud Wilson
1. Francis Richter
2. C. I. Taylor
3. Bill Klem
4. Charley Comiskey
5. Al Reach
IMO, Branch Rickey, while eligible, hasn't made his most significant contribution to the game yet. I can't see a justification for voting for him before 1947 at the earliest. I'm not likely to add him to my ballot until 1950 and realistically, it's unlikely that the significance of his contribution was realized until the 1960s.
As far as Kenesaw Landis, it's hard for me to pinpoint his career and whether or not he deserves to be in the HoF. On one hand, he eliminated the issues associated with gambling and fixing games that had been a problem from the beginning of professional baseball. On the other hand, he also ruled with an iron fist for 25 years, blocked Bill Veeck from buying the Phillies when learning of his interest in integrating the team, and blocked any attempt to let a black ball player play in MLB during his lifetime. Does the positive outweigh the negatives in Landis' case?
Before 1947, Branch Rickey had:
1) signed George Sisler for the Browns;
2) developed the Cardinal farm system (and, more importantly, the whole notion of a "farm system"), which in turn lead to:
3) five pennants in nine seasons (1926-34), and added one more while Branch was with the team in 1942;
4) signed Jackie Robinson to a contract and had him play quite successfully for a top minor league Dodger team in Montreal. He had already signed some other Negro Leaguers as well (Newcombe and Campanella were in Nashua of the New England League).
I think the significance of his move was well grasped by 1950, as can be seen from the influx of talent by that time: Satchel Paige, Newcombe, Campanella, Jackie, Larry Doby, Monte Irvin, Minnie Minoso, Luke Easter and Hank Thompson had all played by then, and many more guys who had played in the Negro Leagues were in the minors. Also, Rickey had set up the Dodgers for their successes of the 50's plus helped them to their 1947 and 1949 pennants through Jackie and others.
As for Landis, his position on the color line is a negative factor, and his approach to the gambling scandal(s) have offended some. I think he cleaned the game up in that regard, which was essential for the good of the game, and he deserves a great deal of the credit for that. Landis was hardly unique in his approach to racial issues in his time, and while his position isn't to his credit, I think one must consider that issue in context in determining how much to dock him. He wasn't a roll back the clock reactionary, but rather a hold the line conservative-type in that regard. Standing up for the status quo of exclusion isn't a positive thing, to be sure, and I understand the motivation in lowering his stature for that failing. I just don't think his stance on race wipes out the positives.
Last edited by jalbright; 04-27-2009 at 07:40 AM.
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
1. Turkey Stearnes
2. Mule Suttles
3. Paul Hines
4. Goose Goslin
5. Sherry Magee
6. George Sisler
7. Fred Clarke
8. Edd Roush
9. Dazzy Vance
10. Heinie Groh
11. Zach Wheat
12. Jud Wilson
1. Francis Richter
2. Ed Barrow
3. Alfred H. Spink
4. Bill Klem
5. Frank Selee
"When you have no basis for an argument, abuse the plaintiff." -- Cicero
1) Turkey Stearnes
2) Sherry Magee
3) Mule Suttles
4) Zack Wheat
5) Heinie Groh
6) Goose Goslin
7) Dazzy Vance
8) Old Hoss Radbourne
9) Frank Chance
10) Fred Clarke
11) Johnny Evers
12) Pie Traynor
1) Charlie Comiskey
2) Bill Klem
3) Ed Barrow
4) A.J. Reach
5) Francis Richter
1. Mule Suttles
2. George Sisler
3. Turkey Stearnes
4. Jimmy Collins
5. Hoss Radbourne
6. Pie Traynor
7. Bob Caruthers
8. Goose Goslin
9. Joe Jackson
10. Bill Terry
11. Dazzy Vance
12. Covelski
1. AJ Reach
2. Albert Spink
3. Barrow
4. Landis
5. Klem
I know Barrow is not a new candidate, and Suttles was an omission on my part last vote.
We now have a quorum on both halves of the ballot.
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
1. Turkey Stearnes
2. George Sisler
3. Goose Goslin
4. Mule Suttles
5. Willie Keeler
6. Charles Radbourne
7. Jud Wilson
8. Jimmy Collins
9. Paul Hines
10. Harry Stovey
11. Frank Grant
12. Pete Hill
1. Alexander Cartwright
2. Ned Hanlon
3. Bill Klem
4. Ed Barrow
5. A.J. Reach
Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Alex Sparky
Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
In looking at other ballots on the player side there's always a cringe along the lines of geez how could I not have that guy on my ballot. But then I go through my ballot or the "next year" do so and find there is noone that merits bumping (in my mind of course).
1. Turkey Stearnes
2. Joe Jackson
3. Mule Suttles
4. Jud Wilson
5. Frank Grant
6. George Sisler
7. Rube Waddell
8. Sherry Magee
9. Stan Coveleski
10. Charlie Radbourn
11. Fred Clarke
12. Pie Traynor
1. Alexander Cartwright
2. Fred Clarke
3. Bill Klem
4. Francis Richter
5. Ed Barrow
September 16, 2012: The Losing Streak Ends
1. Sam Thompson
2. Joe Jackson
3. Ross Barnes
4. George Sisler
5. Goose Goslin
6. Harry Stovey
7. Willie Keeler
8. Bill Terry
9. Charley Radbourn
10. Pete Browning
11. Hugh Duffy
12. Turkey Stearnes
1. Branch Rickey
2. Kenesaw Landis
3. Alexander Cartwright
4. Abner Doubleday
5. Charles Conlon
1. Ross Barnes
2. Mule Suttles
3. Charlie Bennett
4. Jimmy Collins
5. Ezra Sutton
6. George Sisler
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By late June, I'll have spent all my money on my one 4 day vacation I get all year.
I guess I'll have to start choosing which kidney I want to sell, lol.
By late June, I'll have spent all my money on my one 4 day vacation I get all year.
I guess I'll have to start choosing which kidney I want to sell, lol.
You know what's hilarious? And all game devs do this: North America June 19th and Internationally June 22nd. Canada is not an international entity anymore. That is hilarious.
I know we're all anxious to play the game, but I'd prefer they produced a polished version of the pack and made us wait a little longer rather than rushing the game out and having the forums full of complaints.
Careful, they can yet do both - make us wait longer and rush it out with accompanying bugs/poor implementation of design ideas etc ensuring that the forums full of complaints. :P
I'm hoping for a reasonably bug-free release that shows at least an attempt to improve the currently mediocre feature set and AI in vanilla Civ 5. Strong sales will ensure another expansion and by that stage I'm hoping Civ 5 will be in the state that Civ 4: BTS is currently in. Anything beyond that is a bonus.
Remember the boost Warlords gave for Civ 4? That's roughly the improvement I expect to see from G&K.
Can't wait!
I'm especially eager for the additional Civilizations and the scenarios (the Sci-Fi one especially). Do we also get that Rhye's and Fall thing with it?
I'm not saying that they will produce a bug free game, rather that if they've pushed back the game from the original estimate of May, it's for a reason. I'd prefer if they just came out and said 'sorry guys, we said late Spring but we've pushed it back to June to give you a more polished game' rather than being technical about the definition of Spring.
With how much in-class time, versus how much at-home work? The teenaged kids of some friends of mine, sometimes seem like they have no time left for a social life.
Whatever happened to letting children be children ...?
Actually, I just did some web-searching, found the official Government site for Australian schools, and ... Mordor's mis-stating things by a fair deal.
For example: Queensland has four terms this year, three of 10 weeks and one of 11 weeks. That's 41 weeks of school. So what I THINK Mordor has done, is simply multiple the weeks of school by SEVEN.
And, Mordor? That's not how it works. Here in the U.S., kids go to school for 5 days a week. So a 180-day school year, actually represents 36 weeks of school. Less than in Queensland, Australia .... but not by that large an amount.
Furthermore, additional research indicates that a typical Australian school day starts classes at 9am, and lets the students out around 3:30pm. But in the U.S. ...? Even twenty-five years ago, when I was in highschool, we didn't have it so good. I had to be in school for attendance at 7:00am sharp, and some days, didn't get out until 4pm. Nowadays, for most kids, MOST days last until 4pm.
So a highschooler in Australia - say, age 15, 10th grade - is in school for about 200 days, and about 6.5 hours a day. That's 1300 hours per year.
Same kid, in the U.S., is in school for 180 days, but for 8 to 9 hours a day. That's 1,440 to 1,620 hours per year.
So, um. Who's got the shorter school year, again ...?
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Wow, we're even shorter than that - same term periods, except the fourth term is only about three and a half weeks long, then we have exam leave. We also (At my school at least) start some days an hour later and others finish 1/2 an hour earlier.
But I'd really love if we only got 6 and a half hours a day. We have about seven and a half most days, sometimes longer (usually 8:20-3:45).
Pouakai, isn't that only year 12 though?
However, this conversation is quite enlightening. I never knew Americans had to get to school so early (I don't normally get up until 7).
edit: By my multiplication, 41 weeks at 7 and a half hours per day (five day week) we have 1742 hours. However, I would estimate it's at least seventy hours shorter, probably more.
Well, so far we have had way to much input on just what Spring and Summer is. Some interesting give and take on the amount of schooling in some countries was fun to read. But very little RESPONCE on just was done to improve the massive list of needed fixes on vanilla CIV 5. Would it not be better to fix the original product before tacking on something else that still has to work within a flawed framework.
Those who post evaluations about this improvement will be very carefully read by me before I pop for the $$ to buy it.
If it is a major fix of CIV 5 and a great ( bug free ) expansion the cost is of no concern to me. Good stuff always cost more but in the long run is worth it. Besides, if I do'nt spend my money my kids will!
"Those who post evaluations about this improvement will be very carefully read by me before I pop for the $$ to buy it."
-- unlike most of the 'reviewers' currently feeding information (badly in a lot of cases - one even claims Polynesia is a new civ...), I'll wait for it to be out, or closer to it, before saying if it'll be an improvement or not.
I think it will most likely be an improvement - good as the game is now, there's a lot of room for it, and the details I've heard sound good. Though MD is right, I feel, that there is also potential for it to not be so great. I expect to buy it in any case, though, I'm just that fannish
No worries. For a few minutes Iw as aghast at how little time Australian youngsters got to be kids at all. Then I checked the details on the web, and ... yeah. Guess they do have a little time for that after all, eh?
Yeah, I think it's a global problem; we expect kids to know more and more and more before college. And even with shorting some subjects (the arts, especially music, here in the States), the amount of time a kid, especially highschoolers, have to put into their schoolwork ... ugh. Eight or more hours in class, then, five or six horus of homework. EVERY DAY, except the weekends ... during which, like as not, there's another 6-8 hours of homework to split between the two days, anyway. O_OBut I'd really love if we only got 6 and a half hours a day. We have about seven and a half most days, sometimes longer (usually 8:20-3:45).
We're trying to cram too much learning into too few days, and too few YEARS.
200 days, not 205. There's 5 or 6 days during those 41 weeks, where you don't have class. So, about 1500 hours. About what our highscoolers have to do, here in the States.edit: By my multiplication, 41 weeks at 7 and a half hours per day (five day week) we have 1742 hours. However, I would estimate it's at least seventy hours shorter, probably more.
I don't think homework's that bad here. At least, not early on. In the latter three years of highschool it's like that.
That sounds far more realistic than 1700. I think we'll find both sides of the Pacific do it relatively the same. Now, whether Europe is different, I have no clue. I think the French have far less hours.200 days, not 205. There's 5 or 6 days during those 41 weeks, where you don't have class. So, about 1500 hours. About what our highscoolers have to do, here in the States.
I'm pretty sure the Japanese barely let their kids sleep between classes. That would certainly explain some of the whacky, sleep-deprivation-induced things we see coming out of there, hahahaha!
I never did all the homework I was supposed to at school, but even if I had, I think it was only an hour or two per night (unless you're struggling), I often did it in ten minutes before class - except once you get on to GCSE (starting age 14) when there's a lot of extended coursework (or there was in my day - I hear they've been reducing the amount of coursework done at home, which naturally reduces the amount of time that can be spent on it), and A-Level (starting age 16) when there's much more to learn, so more studying. I self-taught one A-Level, so I spent lots of time on that at home, but the three I was taught normally had no coursework element - but a lot of studying.
When I was at school, we starting before 9, but with actual lessons usually starting around 9, and finished somewhere in the vicinity of 3:30pm, with around 1 hour and 15-20 minutes of breaks in the day. Around 5 hours of lessons each day. Five days a week. We had three terms, each with one week of half-term holiday, a few weeks off over Easter and Christmas (somewhere between 2 and 4 each, but not as much as 4 each in one year), and 6 or 8 weeks of Summer. I think we finished late July and started in the first half of September. Plus there was another 1 week of days off when schools weren't formally closed, as "INSET days" (INSET being IN SErvice Training, when teachers got extra training - they call it Continuing Professional development, or CPD, now). So at a rough estimate, that's about 17 weeks off each year, leaving 35 weeks in school, which is 175 days. Feels like more, though. If we say 5 hours of lessons a day (not sure if that matches the comparisons others have listed), that's 175 * 5, or about 875 hours of actual lessons. If we include the whole day, that's more like 7 hours a day, or 1225 hours a year.
June is the summer.
Your local weather patterns do not change 2K's release schedule. It is 100% predictable that they were using the US definition.
Very wry. Summer starts on June 20th in the United States this year, for 'tis the solstice.
Can I ask a really stupid question....?
Will G&K be available to download directly from Steam like the DLC OR do I need to make a retail purchase online from a vendor/ from a shop in the high street?
I think you'll be able to direct download, like you can download any other game.
Direct download from Steam. The store page isn't up yet, though
Thanks Guys, much obliged. Living in Israel I would have to wait for delivery, G&K would never be in the shops on the release date - doubt they would even know what it is until they received to their stock 3-6 months later...
You can dl the main game and all DLC from Steam so would be weird if G&K wasn't the same.

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The setting on the beach is pure Troncones. The family is nice, charming and good at what they do. The huachinango (deep fried red snapper) is the best in the area. Also the enchiladas suizas and the fajitas are great.
The setting on the beach is pure Troncones. The family is nice, charming and good at what they do. The huachinango (deep fried red snapper) is the best in the area. Also the enchiladas suizas and the fajitas are great.
Great Mexican food and friendly service along the beach in Troncones! Try the ceviche! The views of the ocean are great - you can have a private table right on the beach!
Superb service, very good choices, not the most upscale furniture but not atypical of a lot of family-owned Mexican restaurants. We like feeling we're eating from someone's kitchen who is right there cooking.
All three of us were strolling along the scenic and beautiful beach at Troncones. We stopped at La Costa Brava and noshed on seafood and chicken fajitas which were delicious. The piña coladas were scrumptious and the service was attentive, even though our Spanish was not perfect. I would definetly go back and sample their authentic, high quality cuisine.
My wife and I dined here our first night in Troncones. We were a little nervous as vegetarians that we'd be eating beans and rice all week, but the owners were super accommodating (a theme throughout our week in Troncones/Zihua/Ixtapa) and special-made veggie fajitas and guacamole that was among the best meals I'd had in awhile (another recurring theme!).
For 25 years a tradition in Troncones. Carmen has perfected the menu. The shrimp enchilladas are celestial. The Veracruzana is perfect. This is where the locals dine.I am fortunate to have known the Lopez family since it was the only restaurant in Troncones. True mexican seafood not a tourist trap.
My husband and I had lunch at Costa Brava on the recommendation of a member of our hotel's staff. For about $17, we had fish tacos, shrimp fajitas, salsa and guacamole, and a couple of drinks. The food was extremely fresh, very well presented, and tasted great. The restaurant is very laid-back, nicely shaded, and has a great beach view.
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This makes me so happy that I am disgusted with myself!
Oh, don´t be too hard on yourself, #1. I´ll be disgusted at myself for you. Heck, my wife already is (at me, not you). But you have to agree, it couldn´t happen to a more deserving person. But whatcha bet Da One intervenes and the IRS never goes after her?
Didn´t know she liked boys...
I thought she was a lesbian, not that there is anything wrong with that.Besides, as an 0bama-loving, card-swearing liberal, she´ll jump at the chance to pay her fair share of all the back taxes.
Couldn´t happen to a more deserving individual. roflol
Glad to see her step up and pay her fair share. Or will she pay rich tax lawyers to get her off like the 1%?
As a member of the 1%, this should please her greatly.
Show your patriotism!She should be excited to pay her fair share.
I can´t tell you how relieved I was to read alcohol was involved. I can´t imagine anyone marrying her while sober.
I´m sure she will be more than happy to pay her "fair share." Just sayin´....
Deliberately making "a joke" out of something as solemn as marriage sounds like "tempting fate" to me, Janeane. One might even say you had this coming.Hearing that JG just discovered someone divorced her 20 years ago wouldn´t surprise me. I´d gnaw my own arm off to get away from her if I woke up and learned I was married to her.But hearing someone married her to begin with is blowing my mind. Her aggressive habit of insulting everybody and everything decent makes her superlatively repulsive to me.
AWESOME! Make her PAY!
She may turn out to be very patriotic. Don´t forget the penalty and interest, its for the children dontch´a know
Conspicuous and hideous during the Bush years, this nasty piece of work seems to have crawled under a rock over the last four years. Sadly, today´s news should pull her out, making the rounds on tv, spouting bitter and ugly. The upside, she´s that much older, tailor made to repel.
Oh, come one! Can´t you see what a desperate PR thing this is?No one who is sober would ever think of even playing with anything Garafalo even has to offer:Boobs?I think not.Looks?Please. We can all see that.Funny?...........?.What does she have to offer?
Did you see the dude she married?Yikes!Not sure who would have to be the drunkest to bring about that union.Do they have a "joke" child as well? Would be a cross between Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch.
#3, that´s why she said she thought it was a joke.
She´s not gay...besides, why would you think any woman would want her? At least with men, you know there is an overwhelming driving force that makes them overlook a lot of flaws. Yeah, she should be proud to pay more taxes. It is not only patriotic but its the humanistic thing to do! Oh it should make you feel so good--in fact, the more you pay, the better!
I had no idea how much it hurts to snort seltzer down your nose when you least expect it. Still, it made me clean the laptop screen and now I can read small print again.
This is just too delicious. Would love to see a calculation of how much LESS she owes due to the Bush cuts.
One this for sure..I want to know what the tax ramifications are....and did she pay them..I want the proof!!!!don´t let this little worm off the hook...
Couldn´t happen to a nicer skank.
...er, skunk.
...no, skank!
C´mon, Janeane, paying high taxes is your patriotic duty.After all, you 1%-ers don´t pay your fair share.Bwaaa Haaaaaa Haaaaaa
Maybe she and Timmy Geihtner can hook-up.
Yeah, I forget I´m married all the time, honest mistake, could happen to anybody.
God has a great sense of humor! LOLOLOL!!!
The more pain she endures, the more pleasure I derive.
Like #1, I´m disgusted with myself but every time I think of that tax bill I just have another giggling fit! Does this make me a bad person?
How about tax fraud? Jail time?Try going before a judge in a tax court and saying "I didn´t know I was married!"
This doesn´t make sense. Aren´t the tax rates for married filing jointly lower than for single filers?
First time ever: "funny" popped into my mind while trying to not think of "Janeane Garfalo"
If you aren´t living together, you can file separately even if you aren´t divorced.This is tax 101. She doesn´t owe a dime.The only year she MIGHT have done her taxes wrong was too long ago and she can´t be audited for that year now.
Finally - Karma has struck.
Karma sure is a....GarofaloAint it?
I knew she was a dufus. She is low class, no brains and is UGLY!
Gloria Allred is free to mouthpiece for her.
Couldn´t have happened to a nicer guy.
I find the caption under the picture amusing.Three people in the picture, two males and one female and they thought it was necessary to identify which one was Garofalo (middle).
Delicious.What was that line about chickens coming home to roost?
As the article states, the tax rate for a married person filing single is the highest. (As opposed to married persons filing jointly, which most do.)And she made a bundle of money during that period.I´m not sure the statute of limitations works when you misstate your filing status. Those pesky little boxes at the top of the return. And then your rate is computed on the basis of that check mark. Not sure at all....Schadenfreude Time?
It looks as though she can´t simply walk away from this and say "Ha, ha, my bad." (Nor can he.)It looks as though they have a responsibility to report their erroneous filings.http://taxblog.com/cjohnson/amended-returns-imposing-a-duty-to-correct-material-mistakes/
Excuse me while I have a Schadenfreude moment...
Not just a tax bill, but a divorce settlement in a community property state (Kalifornia). That guber she married has a claim on half the wealth she earned/accumulated in the last 19 years.I feel like Charlie Brown, and any minute Lucie will announce this is just an urban myth.
Some don´t seem to understand that filing as a Single person (which she apparently has been doing) is not the same as Married Filing Single. The tax rate for the latter is the highest. Higher than Single or Married Filing Jointly.
So, what this all boils down to is that she FRAUDULENTLY marked her income tax return as "SINGLE" instead of "MARRIED, FILING SEPARATELY". Would this be considered a FELONY???????
For married people who are not living together, the correct filing status is "single."Her tax returns are not wrong.Dang!
Remember when Madeline Albright just happen to "discovered" she was Jewish? These Libs think we´re all so stupid, well I guess if you put a D by your name...
There´s a four year statute of limitations, isn´t there?
She thinks rich people should pay more taxes, so she won´t mind paying at all. She won´t fight this.Right? Pffffttt


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Microsoft Corp unveiled on Wednesday new online services for their video game consoles to showcase games by independent developers, part of a push by the companies to tap enthusiasm for so-called casual games.
The $18 billion U.S. game industry, increasingly dominated by sequels and licensed properties, is turning to independent developers for inspiration much as the movie industry uses festivals like Sundance for fresh ideas and to discover new film-making talent.
Microsoft said trial versions of the first independent games, with titles such as "JellyCar" and "The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai," were available immediately, and it expected hundreds of games to hit the service by the end of the year.
Microsoft used its keynote at the Game Developers Conference to officially launch the service for its Xbox 360, underscoring the importance it expects such simpler games to play in broadening the appeal of that machine.
"Now we have another entry point, which is games made by people in their bedrooms," John Schappert, vice president of the Xbox Live online platform, said in an interview.
Microsoft, playing to its traditional strengths in software development for personal computers, began offering game production tools to amateurs and hobbyists about 18 months ago under an initiative dubbed "XNA".
"We've seen the democratization of game development, but it will also take something new, the democratization of game distribution," Schappert told the conference.
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As HD DVD heads to an early grave following the loss of key proponent Toshiba, retailers have launched fire sales to dump players and movie titles in the high-definition format.
Amazon (NSDQ: AMZN).com, which announced Wednesday that it would only promote HD DVD rival Blu-ray, on Wednesday was offering major Hollywood movies in the losing format at 30% to 50% off the original price. The titles included Transformers, all three Bourne films in a package, American Gangster, 300, Beowulf, and the director's cut of Zodiac.
Toshiba, which said last week that it would stop selling HD DVD players, recorders, and disc drives for PCs by the end of March, slashed the price of its HD-A3 player from $150 to $100. The player was available online on Amazon and on Circuit City. At the latter, the player came with two movies, Bourne Identity and 300.
To help people find HD DVD movies and players at bargain prices, the site DVD Talk launched an online forum called "The Official HD DVD Fire Sale Clearance Thread."
Following Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Group's decision earlier this month to stop shipping movies in HD DVD by the end of the year, Microsoft (NSDQ: MSFT) slashed in half the price of its HD DVD video player for the Xbox 360 video game console. The player now sells for $129.
Companies that dropped support for HD DVD, including Wal-Mart and Best Buy (NYSE: BBY), said it was necessary to eliminate customer confusion over having to choose between two competing and incompatible technologies. Most consumers have shunned high-definition DVDs and players to avoid being on the losing end of the format war, which was reminiscent of the battle between Betamax and VHS in the early days of videocassette recorders. VHS eventually won over Sony-backed Betamax.
One of the key reasons Sony won the format war was the inclusion of a Blu-ray disc player with the PlayStation 3. Sony sold more than 2.5 million PlayStation 3s last year, according to the NPD Group.
Posted on Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:46:45 EST
Microsoft, Epic confirm Gears of War sequel
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Remember when back in December Amazon mistakenly began taking pre-orders for Gears of War 2 on Xbox 360? Well, it seems like the giant online retailer indeed had the inside word on that one, as Microsoft and Epic Games just confirmed that Gears of War 2 is coming exclusively to Xbox 360 this November.
The official announcement came at the Game Developer's Conference where Epicâs Tim Sweeney revealed just a few tidbits. The game will feature improved graphics including advanced character lighting, more realistic shadows and water effects, and a tweaked Unreal 3 engine to include over 100 characters on screen at once. In addition, there is now support for certain Ageia physics elements and the potential for destructible environments. Unfortunately, no in-game footage was displayed at the show, but a brief animated teaser trailer is available
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In U.S., Cuban Exiles Unmoved
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Cuban exiles in the United States reacted coolly on Tuesday to the overnight news that Fidel Castro was resigning the presidency of Cuba, an island he has ruled with an iron fist for almost 50 years.
With Mr. Castroâs younger brother Raúl, who has been running the country for a year and a half, seen as most likely to succeed him, many said they expect the system of communist central control to continue unchanged.
Modest crowds gathered under gloomy skies in Miamiâs Little Havana district, to the west of the main downtown core, but the excitement level was limited. Some Cuban flags were displayed, and signs saying âNo Castro, No Problemâ were waved.
Virgilio Hernandez, 67, who came to the United States from Cuba as a child, said: âCastro is known in all parts of the world as a horrible man. But the manipulation will continue under Raúl. Things will not change until we have a real election.â
People on the scene said the celebration at the end of July 2006, when Fidel Castro announced that said illness was forcing him to turn over day-to-day leadership of the country to Raúl Castro, were larger because the action seemed to signal Fidel Castroâs imminent demise.
Some Cuban exiles in Miami said on Tuesday that any real change would have to come within the countryâs military, which Raúl Castro has commanded for decades. Even without Fidel Castro, one man said, there are a âbunch of auxiliary gang members who donât want to see change.â
Responses in the Cuban community in Hudson County, N.J., were similarly restrained. âIt was about time for him to step down,â said Orencio Fernandez, 64, while speaking to people in a bakery on Bergenline Avenue in West New York, N.J. âBut heâs not dead yet. Things will change in Cuba when he dies and his brother dies, because the brother will carry on the same way.â
Mr. Fernandez, who lives in nearby North Bergen, said he heard about Fidel Castro in a news broadcast and went to the Web site of the Communist party newspaper in Cuba to print out the announcement. He was showing it to people as they came into the bakery.
A. R. Fernandez, a printer who left Cuba in 1960, looked at it and said: âIt will continue. The brother took power. The older generation is still in power.â
Representative Albio Sires, Democrat of New Jersey, who once was mayor of West New York, said, âThe first thing that struck me is, obviously, he is very ill, otherwise he would not have surrendered the reins after 50 years.â
With Fidel Castro out of the picture, Mr. Sires said, âIâm hoping that this leads to democracy in Cuba â that Raúl will start making moves in areas of freedom of the press, release of political prisoners and in terms of setting up elections.â
âThe people of Cuba have been very patient the last 18 monthsâ since Fidel Castro first relinquished power, he said. âI think the people of Cuba want change.â Mr. Sires was 10 years old when his family fled Cuba in 1962 with the help of relatives.
Senators John McCain, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, who are running for president, issued separate calls for the release of political prisoners in Cuba.
âFidel Castroâs stepping down is an essential first step, but it is sadly insufficient in bringing freedom to Cuba,â Mr. Obama, Democrat of Illinois, said in his statement. âCubaâs future should be determined by the Cuban people and not by an anti-democratic successor regime. The prompt release of prisoners on conscience wrongly jailed for standing up for the basic freedoms too long denied to the Cuban people would mark an important break with the past.â
Senator McCain, Republican of Arizona, said that despite Mr. Castroâs action, âfreedom for Cuba is not yet at hand.â
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Posted on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:42:14 EST
Microsoft: HD DVD demise not a problem
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Speculation has been growing over the last few weeks that the next gen movie format war is nearing the end, with Toshiba-based HD DVD falling to its Sony-boosted rival, Blu-ray.
Last week, major US retailer Wal-Mart announced that it would be dropping the HD DVD format. Reports circulated over the weekend that even Toshiba would soon be admitting the battle was over, although the company has yet to announce its surrender publicly.
Wal-Mart joins retailers Blockbuster, Woolworths, Best Buy and Netflix, which all have announced that they would be favouring the Blu-ray format. Blu-ray has also been winning the war on the production side of the industry, as evidenced by January's announcement from Warner Bros. that it would be going Blu-ray exclusive. That leaves only Paramount and Universal holding out in the HD DVD camp.
Sony is likely to be rejoicing at the news, as the PlayStation 3 is also a Blu-ray disc player, and the format's potentially winning the battle is likely to see sales of the machine leap. Its rival the Xbox 360 plays DVD movies, although a USB add-on, costing $130 in the US, and £115 in the UK, can be bought for watching HD DVD movies.
However, Microsoft has issued a statement today saying that it is not concerned with reports that the HD DVD will be joining the choir invisible. It said, "We do not believe the recent reports about HD DVD will have any material impact on the Xbox 360 platform or our position in the marketplace, As we've long stated, we believe it is games that sell consoles, and Xbox 360 continues to have the largest next-gen games library with the most exclusives and best selling games in the industry."
Microsoft also said that it would be waiting for the official word from manufacturers Toshiba--which has so far not issued confirmation that the format will be discontinued--before it makes a decision on the future of the add-on HD DVD player for the 360.
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Navy will likely attempt to shoot down a faulty spy satellite Thursday, the day after the space shuttle Atlantis is scheduled to land, two officials told CNN Monday.
The officials -- who spoke on condition of anonymity because much of the planning remains classified -- said the idea is to leave as much time as possible so a second attempt could be made if necessary.
Because the 5,000-pound satellite malfunctioned immediately after launch in December 2006, it has a full tank of fuel. It would likely survive re-entry and disperse potentially deadly fumes over an area the size of two football fields, officials have said.
The Navy plans to fire at the satellite as it enters Earth's atmosphere at an altitude of about 150 miles.
Officials want the missile to hit the edge of the atmosphere to ensure debris re-enters and burns up quickly.
The Missile Defense Agency estimated the cost of a sea-based attempted intercept at $40 million to $60 million.
Without any intervention, Pentagon officials have said they believe the satellite would come down on its own in early March.
The option of striking the satellite with a missile launched from an Aegis cruiser was decided upon by President Bush after consultation with several government and military officials and aerospace experts, said Deputy National Security Adviser James Jeffrey.
NASA Administrator Michael Griffin said there's nothing the military can do to make the outcome worse.
"If we miss, nothing changes. If we shoot and barely touch it, the satellite is just barely in orbit" and would still burn up somewhat in the atmosphere, Griffin said.
"If we shoot and get a direct hit, that's a clean kill and we're in good shape," he added.
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<pops champagne bottle>argentino78 wrote:So Single Ladies will be officially #1 on the Hot 100 tomorrow
Yeah, that's why Lollipop sold 3 Million downloadsargentino78 wrote:I've noticed how hits from Ne-Yo, T-Pain and Lil Wayne receive massive airplay but we never see'em on top of digital download charts... it's like radio programmers are forcing people to listen to those songs
Except for that song... A milli, Mrs Officer,etc do not sell that muchBrasileirinho wrote:Yeah, that's why Lollipop sold 3 Million downloads :wink:argentino78 wrote:I've noticed how hits from Ne-Yo, T-Pain and Lil Wayne receive massive airplay but we never see'em on top of digital download charts... it's like radio programmers are forcing people to listen to those songs
yes, i don't know why now...?! maybe thanks to digital releases of many remixes on iTunes!kreyzas wrote:yes, i am also curious about thisargentino78 wrote:-- 155 MADONNA MILES AWAY 8903 999 693 30410
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Kanye West's '808s' Is Tops, While GNR Settles For Third Place
Kanye West's "808s & Heartbreak" arrives at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 with 450,000, giving the rapper his third straight chart-topping album. However, his sales start is his lowest since his first album, "The College Dropout," bowed with 441,000 in 2004 . . . The much ballyhooed return of Guns N' Roses doesn't quite fire up the chart as some expected. The band's "Chinese Democracy" starts at No. 3 with 261,000 . . . Also starting high this week: new sets from Ludacris and the Killers, an EP from Coldplay and Barry Manilow's latest "Greatest Songs" release.
• Kanye West scores his third straight No. 1 album on the Billboard 200 as his "808s & Heartbreak" arrives atop the tally with 450,000. That's the good news . . . Now, the not-so-good news. That's his lowest debut sales frame since his first album, "The College Dropout," bowed with 441,000 in 2004. His last release, "Graduation," began with 957,000 at No. 1 last year while sophomore set "Late Registration" checked in with 860,000 at No. 1 in 2005.
• In the runner-up slot this week is a surging "Fearless" from Taylor Swift, which basks in post-Thanksgiving sale pricing and a performance from the singer at the Nov. 23 "American Music Awards." The set rises from No. 4 last week with 267,000 -- up 23%.
• At No. 3, we greet the arrival of Guns N' Roses' first studio album of original material since 1991, as "Chinese Democracy" lands with 261,000. The band's last proper studio efforts, the same-day release of "Use Your Illusion I" and "Use Your Illusion II," debuted at Nos. 2 and 1, respectively, with 685,000 and 770,000 in 1991. Since then, the act has charted with a covers set (1993's "The Spaghetti Incident?" debuted with 190,000), a live effort (1999's "Live Era '87 - '93;" 60,000) and the 2004 "Greatest Hits" package (169,000).
• Beyonce's "I Am . . . Sasha Fierce" declines by nearly 47% in its second week, dropping to No. 4 with 257,000. Right behind her at No. 5 is Ludacris' new album, "Theater of the Mind," with 213,000. It's Luda's first proper set not to debut at No. 1 since 2001's "Word of Mouf" debuted and peaked at No. 3 . . . The Killers' third studio set, "Day & Age," enters at No. 6 with 193,000. The band's last studio album, 2006's "Sam's Town," bowed at No. 2 with 315,000.
• Other debuts this week include Barry Manilow's "Greatest Songs of the Eighties" (No. 14 with 78,000), Coldplay's "Prospekt's March" (EP) (No. 15 with 77,000), Trace Adkins' "X: Ten" (No. 32 with 37,000), Jeremy Camp's "Speaking Louder Than Before" (No. 38 with 32,000) and Linkin Park's "Road to Revolution" (No. 41 with 31,000).
The Billboard 200 - Top 20
*1 New KANYE WEST 808s & Heartbreak (Roc-A-Fella / Def Jam / IDJMG)
*2 4 TAYLOR SWIFT Fearless (Big Machine )
*3 New GUNS N' ROSES Chinese Democracy (Black Frog / Geffen / IGA)
4 1 BEYONCE I Am...Sasha Fierce (Music World / Columbia / Sony Music)
*5 New LUDACRIS Theater Of The Mind (DTP / Def Jam / IDJMG)
*6 New THE KILLERS Day & Age (Island / IDJMG)
7 2 NICKELBACK Dark Horse (Roadrunner )
*8 6 SOUNDTRACK Twilight (Summit / Chop Shop / Atlantic / AG)
*9 7 VARIOUS ARTISTS Now 29 (Universal / EMI / Sony BMG / Zomba / UMe)
10 3 DAVID COOK David Cook (19 / RCA / RMG)
11 8 SOUNDTRACK High School Musical 3: Senior Year (Walt Disney )
*12 10 AC/DC Black Ice (Columbia / Sony Music)
13 5 IL DIVO The Promise (SYCO / Columbia / Sony Music)
*14 New BARRY MANILOW Greatest Songs Of The Eighties (Arista / RMG)
*15 New COLDPLAY Prospekt's March (EP) (Capitol )
*16 14 T.I. Paper Trail (Grand Hustle / Atlantic / AG)
*17 16 FAITH HILL Joy To The World (Warner Bros. (Nashville) / WRN)
18 9 ENYA And Winter Came... (Reprise / Warner Bros.)
19 11 DAVID ARCHULETA David Archuleta (19 / Jive / Zomba)
*20 19 PINK Funhouse (LaFace / Zomba)
* indicates titles with greatest sales gains this week
• Album units, current chart week: 12.2 million units
• UP 29% from last issue's charts: 9.4 million units
• DOWN 0.7% from same week, 2007: 12.2 million units
• This week: The top 10 albums each sell more than 100,000 copies.
• This week last year on the Billboard 200: Josh Groban's "Noel" held at No. 1 for a second week, selling 539,000 (up 33%). Eagles' "Long Road out of Eden" was in second place with 313,000 (up 70%) and Alicia Keys' "As I Am" was in third with 257,000 (down 26%). The top debut of the week was at No. 50, where Pitbull's "Boatlift" floated in with 22,000. The top five albums each sold more than 100,000.
• The No. 100 album this week, Point of Grace's "How You Live" (Word-Curb/Warner Bros.), sold 10,000.
• The No. 100 album for the same week of 2007, Gary Allan's "Living Hard" (MCA Nashville), sold 11,000.
• Average total of the No. 10 album for the same week of the year during the past 10 years (1999-2008): 18,822.
• Elvis Presley ends a decade's absence from Hot Country Songs, as "I'll Be Home for Christmas," with Carrie Underwood, opens at No. 60. The King last graced the list in January 1998 with his 1957 chestnut "Blue Christmas" (prior to a change in policy that allows only new holiday releases to impact the chart). "Home" and an updated version of "Blue" featuring Martina McBride appear on the new Presley release "Christmas Duets." He last reached Hot Country Songs with a non-seasonal entry when the double-sided remix single "I Was the One/Wear My Ring Around Your Neck" charted for two weeks in May 1983.
• On Hot Country Songs, Alan Jackson nets his 49th top 10 hit as "Country Boy" scoots from No. 12 to No. 10. It's his third straight top 10 single from his current album "Good Time" -- the first two both hit No. 1 ("Small Town Southern Man" and the set's title track). Jackson's first top 10 single came in 1990 with the classic "Here in the Real World."
• After appearing on the Holiday Songs chart each year since the list's 2001 launch, Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas Is You" finally ascends to its first week at No. 1. Though the 1994 nugget is easily the youngest Christmas classic ever to lead the tally, a look at this week's Holiday chart reveals a fairly even decade-by-decade sample of holiday fare, with a spike in 1970s and 1980s titles. Perhaps understandably, just one title makes the list from the 2000s: "O Holy Night" by Josh Groban.
• Among the titles released this week, due on next week's charts: Britney Spears' "Circus," Akon's "Freedom," Panic at the Disco's "Live in Chicago" and the soundtrack to "Cadillac Records."
• Next week's Billboard 200 competes with the same week in 2007 when: Josh Groban's "Noel" held firm at No. 1 with 581,000 (up 8%) while Alicia Keys' "As I Am" rose to No. 2 with 234,000, despite a 9% decline in sales. The chart's top debut was the self-titled first album from Blake Lewis at No. 10 with 98,000. The top eight albums each sold more than 100,000.
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Even before Hurricane Sandy caused unprecedented devastation throughout New York and New Jersey last week, anyone reading the news, absorbing social media, or looking at any sort of screen, more or less was barraged with constant updates about the storm.
But getting informed about a disaster is one thing. What does it take to move people to process that information in a productive, engaged way and take action? One possibly useful tool is a news widget called ShoutAbout: an experiment in bridging the gap between news and action, by providing media sites an easy way to integrate action-oriented items by placing them at the end of a news story. So readers not only can leave a comment, they can potentially find out a way to participate in current events, whether it's a hurricane or international affairs.
According to ShoutAbout, "The best news educates about issues of public importance. The best organizations offer tangible and meaningful opportunities to impact these issues. But when people learn about important current events, there's usually a disconnect--they don't know what they can do to make a difference." This disconnect was experienced firsthand by Mat Morgan, ShoutAbout's creator, who, during his time as a communications officer at the American Red Cross, realized how hard it was to both inform and mobilize, even when the media picked up on a story.
ShoutAbout is currently in a pilot run with a handful of sites, including PBS, who placed the widget at the end of an article about Americans' evolving opinions on gun control. Click the button "Act" and a link to a petition asking President Obama and Governor Romney to address guns in the debate shows up. Click "Learn" and a list of further reading about guns in America shows up.
The widget lets users themselves suggest their own actions and vote up the most compelling ones--which means publishers don't have to compromise their editorial independence by picking and choosing the advocacy groups to get behind. It also means that swamped editors don't have to add extra work to their plates, for which we're sure they're thankful.
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By JAMIE PATTERSONManaging EditorAnticipation and excitement are in the air as the annual Yazoo County Fair returns this week with a few new twists and traditional favorites.The Yazoo County Fair will be held from Oct. 12-20 at the county fairgrounds. Gate admission includes all rides. The family-friendly event has attracted local and out of town visitors since the 1930s. And with the vibrant lights, exciting rides and tempting food, this year should be no different.-------for the rest of the story see The Yazoo Herald printed edition or subscribe to the Digital Edition.----------
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After four games in a day, Benton Academy's Lady Raiders were somehow still standing at around 1:30 a.m. for the presentation of the Class A Softball State Title Thursday. Pictured from left are (front) Ellie Ryan Upshaw, Lexie Guion, Nora Grace Davis, Brittany McCausley, Jordan Langford, coach Chelsea Raines, (center) Sierra Robles, Caitlyn Guion, Tristen Beith, Kristian Crimm, Emily Moore,Cassidy Scott, coach Steve Carr, (back) head coach Vince Davis and Jenny Reynolds.Benton battles into the early morning hours to win Class A State titleLady Raiders beat six-time defending champ Bayou and Tri-County to advance to title game showdownBy ALEX LAKESports EditorBenton Academy won the Fast-Pitch Softball State A championship early Thursday morning defeating Heidelberg Academy in the championship game 3-2. The Lady Raiders defeated Bayou Academy in the game that was postponed from Saturday due to weather Wednesday morning 7-5 after a 2-run home-run from Nora Grace Davis. Head coach Vince Davis said the four day break where they were tied in the sixth inning helped his team realize how good they couldd be."It helped us tremendously, it proved to us we know we were just as good as they were," Davis said. The Lady Raiders then defeated their rival Tri-County 2-1 to move into the championships series. After losing to Heidelberg in the first game of the championship series 3-0, junior pitcher Jenny Reynolds came back strong giving up only five hits and one walk while striking out six and holding the Lady Rebels to only two runs. Davis gives all the credit to his girls for never quitting and always believing they could win the tournament even when certain plays didn't go their way. "Going in to a ballgame, you always have to believe you can win that ballgame," Davis said. "Those girls believed they could win that tournament, and it started with believing they could and would beat Bayou."
Jason Patterson Editor & PublisherNo one who wasn't on the field that day will truly understand what it took for Benton Academy to bring home the state title this week.Many spectators had a hard time staying up just to watch the final game that wrapped up at 1:30 a.m. Imagine what it was like for that to be your fourth game of the day.And these weren't just any games. Benton had to beat Bayou first. The Lady Colts won the last six state titles. Bayou defeated the Lady Raiders on the way to a North Half title this year.But in the end, Benton proved to be the better team. Kristian Crimm was on second base when Nora Grace Davis hit a home run to score the winning runs. After that the Lady Raiders had to take on backyard rival Tri-County. Games between Benton and TCA are going to be tough no matter what the circumstances. TCA a very talented team, and they gave it their all in the final meeting of this season.The first game with Heidelberg didn't start until after 10 p.m. The first game was a setback, and there was just a 10 minute break before the second game began. After a thrilling 3-2 victory in the final showdown, the Lady Raiders were finally able to celebrate while most people were sleeping. In over a decade of covering high school athletics I've never been more impressed with a team effort. This team will go down in history as Benton Academy's best.
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Big story today folks critics on both sides hitting the president on what they say is the politicizing of the death of Osama -- lot.
Here is Senator John McCain on this.
All I can say is that this is going to be very rough campaign and -- I have had a great honor of serving in the company of heroes you know the thing about heroes.
They don't brag.
Interest and John McCain right and he's a hero himself of course.
Arianna Huffington is among those who said this quote I think it's one thing to celebrate the fact that they -- such a great job.
With television special she says to commemorate this today.
All that is perfectly legitimate but to turn it into a campaign added.
Is the most one of the most despicable things that you can do very strong words from.
-- Arianna Huffington about the president here so we're joined now.
By former New York governor George -- who of course served as governor during the September 11 attacks and governor welcome.
-- is happening there today to thank you.
EE I mean from all -- John McCain and I -- -- so I think Ariana huffington's comment that it's despicable as the right word.
You know I remember when Osama bin Laden was killed that there were those who went down -- ground zero to cheer and to.
Two express their joy I didn't feel that.
Because today as we've had every day since he died we still have brave men and women out there in Afghanistan and around the world fighting.
The war against terror and too many of them are dying and you don't celebrate your brilliance.
When it's because we have brave young Americans out there putting their lives on the line I think it's wrong I think it should stop and and -- the president should apologize for having done.
Yeah I mean a lot of these reactions that lead dead folks to think that nobody's taking the high road in this situation.
And you know -- what you mean the point you just -- has been completely absent on this conversation.
I mean one might expect the president would -- You know great day great job on behalf of those Navy SEALs of course but we have so many men and women who are out -- in this fight to that I was appalled.
At the time when President Obama called out the fact that it was seal team six that had engaged -- -- this rate.
Because they're still out there they're still risking their lives in a few months later we hit that horrible incident where the helicopter was shot down and Afghanistan we lost so thirty National Guard and seals.
We should be thanking them and praying for their safety every day and that patting ourselves on the back as politicians.
And trying to use it in -- camp and -- Paul admiral -- -- weigh in on this as well I in an interview that was done that that -- to all of the people who are in the situation room in that famous photo that we all remember -- it does take a look at what admiral Mike Mullen had to say.
About this he says I do worry a great deal that this time of year that somehow this gets spun into election politics I can assure you.
That those individuals who risk their lives the last thing in the world that they want.
Is it to be spun into that and there has been some reaction out there and I'm sure the Navy SEALs are also divided like most Americans are.
On some of this but there's been some reaction that that they also -- not happy.
It as well I I can't speak for any of the sales but I can say that they're fighting for our country.
They're not fighting for a political cause or political candidate they're putting their lives on the line because they believe and America and they have answered the call.
And for a politician to try to benefit personally is wrong.
But Tyson chicken ought to get it here one is Mitt Romney's reaction -- -- to you know use while working the crowd incidents sort of an off handed comment yesterday.
You know anybody would have done that because it was asked would you have done that because the president has question that.
And he's today you know even Jimmy Carter would have done it is that appropriate.
I don't think he takes shots at others but I do think he's right that any president.
Who understood the magnitude of the battle we were facing against al-Qaeda would have taken that action I think that's.
A fairly safe thing to say but I don't think you take a shot at any other president or other political figure but that is very different from running in the hat.
Patting yourself on the back and saying the other person wouldn't have done it so I think there's a magnitude of difference here and off in a comment that may have been slightly inappropriate.
In a conscious political strategy.
To pat yourself on the back and say look how great I am and it's not just the -- you hear Joseph Biden every day talking about how -- Obama got bin Laden we didn't.
The seals and the brave soldiers and.
You know he -- -- when he can't be okay and he -- credit for that yet on both sides that are attacking that that you know he did the right thing and -- -- courageous moment Leon Panetta said you know was it was up.
That it was gonna go.
Right in that -- the odds were against it.
It in his mind so what -- what's the right over the -- -- take if you weren't issues you know how would you say yes I did what what the commander in chief must -- in a very tough moment.
And strike the right.
I would do what a leader supposed to do and that is give credit to others and particularly give credit to those who are out there on the front line.
What I would have done is very simply said I had confidence in the men and women out there fighting the fight.
Not the -- this great political leader -- she is not not trying to gain political advantage over his opponent by running ads that is wrong I've never seen it.
In the history of this country before and it should stop now.
Well you know what's interesting is that we're having this conversation.
I instead of the conversation that you would want to have it here you know working for the reelection of the president which is that.
That he was the one who made that cop and that's not what books are talking about today's result -- modest thank you so much governor always good to hear -- from you thank you today.
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Looking at your work online is a process of discovery by links. It unfurls in a number of different websites, like Computers Club, Begin Records, both of which you set up, and Internet Archeology. Could you talk about the character of these initiatives and whether you see a cohesive element in them?
I will state what I think they are and describe an aspect of my interest in each. Computers Club is a set of identities that derive from computer users. The concept of identity in the context of the internet has been my principle interest as a computer user. To me, an identity on the internet is a fascinating system of information that gives rise to a character embodying a unique kind of shape and form. These forms can be arranged into a super-structure of information that itself has a kind of identity. The way that these characters synthesize, capture and release information; make choices, and exert influence gives rise to a higher order identity, as a grouping, that shifts and evolves over time. Computers Club is such a grouping. What shape will it take and how will it feel? That's what I wonder.
Begin Records is a preservation for the creative works of individuals who have a polymathic way of life. My philosophy of art is rooted in an idea that the core of one's person is unique and different from that of any other. People could journey inward, venturing as close as possible to that core or center, then endeavor to rearrange their environment to reflect what they've discovered there. That is my personal definition of art; something that I think has many definitions. The general act of rearranging one's environment could encompass ...
Another Book on the Bookmarks Shelf: BooksOnLine
BooksOnLine is an experimental free access library initiated in 2006 by artist Pierre Hourquet. The website features more than thirty books by a variety of artists, with titles such as Honey blood (by artist Suzanna Zak), Slow (Flemming Ove Bech), Not in that Particular Order (Grégoire Grange), or Homeless Caravan (Damon Way), hinting at the book's content, but not revealing a thing about the artist or the designer.
"In the beginning, I wanted to publish books. Designing books and printing them is very easy. But distributing them would be a full-time job. So I decided to publish books online.
The first books were made with friends—artists or photographers—then, after making a few books, I decided to contact artist I like. Every artist I've contacted has been very glad and enthusiastic to contribute. Some of them became good friends.
I like to design the most basic book I could, a very simple one with a colored cover and few pages. So the books have the same shape, the same number of pages, and all use the same font. The layout is more specific for each book."
In need of a Heroine: Angela Washko's "Heroines with Baggage (How Final Fantasy Shaped My Unrealistic Demands for Love and Tragedy)"
Heroines with Baggage (How Final Fantasy Shaped My Unrealistic Demands for Love and Tragedy)
Heroines with Baggage is a video essay using footage taken directly from the famous early 90s role-playing SNES video game Final Fantasy III. The video deconstructs the game, creating a non-linear narrative that follows the trajectories of two of the three playable female characters in the fourteen-character game. Washko describes that she was interested in the female characters that she used to play as a child not because of their sparsity in the game, which can be explained by the fact that reportedly, far fewer females than males played these games in the early 90s, but rather, due to the way these characters were presented.
Washko's video reveals a game where the characters show a certain teenage sentimentality with no real emotional depth, where a princess sings "Oh my hero / So far away now. / Will I ever see your smile?" And another female character gasps at the sight of a male character, "You…saved me?" According to Washko, the female characters constantly mention their desire to experience love, unlike the male characters who do not mention the concept of love at all, resulting in the fact that even though these characters are playable, meaning, have strengths and plot focus, they remain projections of archetypal powerful-yet-victimized women.
Featuring the game's fantastic original soundtrack and the old-school video game aesthetics, the video cuts out the battle and search scenes, usually the game's focal point, in order to look at the game's background story and draw attention to the way it portrays femininity and the model this had served to women like Washko herself, who played the game as young girls. Not that the result was their ultimate subjection to heroes who would save them ...
Frank Benson's "Human Statue (Jessie)" at Taxter & Spengemann
Frank Benson, Human Statue (Jessie), 2011, bronze.
All this is the product of digital photography and 3-D reproduction. But while it is a wonder of contemporary technology, it also harks back to the art of the Ancient Greeks, who, in their bronze sculptures of divine beings, began a tradition of subordinating metaphysics to empiricism to which we still are beholden. Once we might have prayed to such a goddess. Now we meditate on time and timelessness; the ideal and the real; the quick and the dead.
Human Statue (Jessie) is a new work by New York–based artist Frank Benson. The life-size bronze figure of a woman was first designed digitally using photographic scans of the model, which were then used to construct a virtual model that was fabricated in bronze.
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Artist Profile: Marina Zurkow
Mesocosm (Northumberland, UK), Fall (2011), Flash standalone application
You describe your work as making psychological narratives about humans and their relationship to animals, plants, and the weather. It might seem surprising that this relationship to the natural world is depicted via computer animation. How do you perceive the use of technology in order to describe the natural? What does the computer offer you specifically when thinking about nature or the natural?
All representations employ some form of technology—start with burnt charcoal on cave walls.
Why the computer? Why suck all this electricity out of the wall to make inquiries into the representation of climate change? Why pick animation, which is a most unnatural form? There are tools and aesthetic choices that I naturally gravitate towards—in this case, scalable vector graphics that I can make move.
My work started as pictograms and cartoons, leveraging the language of signage and the cute, because cartoons and info graphics are sly. Animation has freedom from verisimilitude, and warrants the fantastic. I've remained interested in making work that leaves you (and me) unsure if it's clip art or hand-drawn, work that sits between the handmade analogue and the digital.
Much of the work I make is keyed to internet research, obscure stories, contradictory data, and highly circulated media. The Poster Children was made in 2007 when the polar bear became the poster child for global warming (Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth) and the poster child (again) for the cutest (Knut, born at the Berlin Zoo), and it was also the year of the Virginia Tech shooting which spawned copycat killers' electronic press kits on YouTube, anti– and pro– gun law campaigning, and racism (questioning whether an Asian has the right to perpetrate this sort of massacre which has historically been ...