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How can I send a donation to the various projects involved in the development of the Xfce desktop? I decided that I'm going to contribute what money I can to the projects developing the distro I use as well as the various associated software. But I can't find a donation link for Xfce.
There was a call for donation for a buildbot server a few months ago on the mailing list, but I don't remember the details. So I guess that you'll have more chance to have this information on the mailing list.
Thank you for the suggestion. I'll give the list a shot.
I have just found this: http://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=4962.0
Even though the request for help with expenses in shipping and setting up the buildbot is pretty old, I went ahead and sent some funds to the e-mail address listed. I hope it helps. Thanks for your help, Wapush.
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Thunar (File Manager), is under heavy development and could use some help. See here:
We are still working on setting up the Xfce foundation, this is however not something that is done in a jiffy. Expectation is that we have this ready in Q2/3 this year.
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We are still working on setting up the Xfce foundation, this is however not something that is done in a jiffy. Expectation is that we have this ready in Q2/3 this year.
Thanks, for the update on this. I have been wondering about it. I'll be sending a donation.
I too will send a donation when there is a mechanism to do that.
I fled to Xfce when Gnome 3 replaced Gnome 2 in my normal distribution (I use Mint's Debian rolling distro). After using Xfce for awhile, I've realized that I'm happier with Xfce4 than I was with Gnome 2. It's more pleasing in lots of ways, and as I've explored its possibilities I've realized that it's panel manager and other bits and pieces are better than what I had been used to.
For awhile I left the complete Gnome environment installed too, although I wasn't using it, but I couldn't do a full update - I kept having dependency problems, all of them involving Gnome core and other Gnome apps. So I've uninstalled most of Gnome, only keeping a few useful things, and my updates are smooth again. I did keep the Gnome NetworkManager app, and gksu (I couldn't find an Xfce equivalent), and a couple of other things - but I use Kate and Krusader from KDE too sometimes, so I've always mixed-and-matched. I like and use a lot of the alternative Xfce apps I've tried for various functions.
So - I'm really grateful to the Xfce developers for doing such a professional job. And for inadvertently providing such a comfortable, useful and attractive haven for those of us who started out on Gnome and then just used it out of habit until we were forced out by Gnome 3.
Sorry to revive an old thread but I'd be eager to occasionally donate to xfce
is there any update on an easy way to do this?
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text: Home Culture Speaking Swahili for Kwanzaa? Instead, try learning a tongue that the ancestors of black Americans actually used. By: John McWhorter Posted: Dec. 28 2010 12:35 AM 0 Thinkstock "Jambo" may mean hello in Swahili, but a slave brought to the United States would not have recognized that greeting. There may not have been a single Swahili-speaking African brought to these shores amid the slave trade. If there were any, it was very few. I get to thinking about this during the holidays as we start hearing about Kwanzaa, which starts the day after Christmas and runs until New Year's Day. Kwanzaa is fine, but it was rooted in a '60s fashion for treating Swahili as black America's "ancestral" language. The choice of Swahili out of the thousands of languages spoken in Africa was innocent, and made a certain sense in that it is a lingua franca across several African nations where hundreds of other languages are spoken. But the nations where it's spoken are in East Africa. Black Americans' ancestors came mostly from West Africa. And as we all know, Africa is enormous. The thing is this: To treat Swahili as meaningfully ancestral to black Americans because it's "African" is to lump diverse peoples together in a way that might seem less appropriate if done by whites. Or, imagine someone with roots in Wales cooking borscht and toasting with vodka in salute to their "Europeanness." If black Americans are to seek an ancestral language, shouldn't it be one that our ancestors actually spoke? Picking just one is tough, though. No one African language is used as common coin from Senegal all the way down to Angola, and slaves brought to the United States came from places throughout this stretch. In the past, I have suggested Mende of Sierra Leone, the language of the songs that some Gullah speakers in South Carolina still remember in fossilized form. But there aren't that many Mende speakers in the U.S., and there are virtually no books in print for learning it (and not many even out of print in libraries). Nigeria's Yoruba is a tempting alternative, presenting neither of those problems. But its speakers were never a significant proportion of slaves brought to the United States. If there is one West African language that a great many slaves in America spoke and is also realistically available to us, it is Twi. It's spoken in Ghana and is the lingua franca there for speakers of dozens of smaller local languages. Many slaves brought to the New World by the English, or sold to them, were from Ghana, then known famously as the Gold Coast, where Twi was a dominant local language. Just as important, a great many Ghanaians have relocated to the United States in the past 40 years, and therefore, someone trying to pick up some Twi could have native speakers to practice with. Twi, unlike Swahili, will not throw you with piles of prefixes and nouns divided into seven different classes (which means that Swahili has seven "genders" instead of the two that are hard enough to deal with in French and Spanish). Twi is a language in which, while words are on the short side, the same one means different things, depending on what tone you say it with. This trait is why many African groups can communicate with drums set to different tones. Say "fa" with a high tone and it means "festival." Say it in a low tone and it means "take." It gets interesting: Say the word for "my" when it's referring to part of your body, and you say it with a low tone. But if you are saying "my (something else)," like an umbrella or a table, then you say it with a high tone. Yet the fact is that Rosetta Stone, Living Language, Berlitz and the other grand language-teaching outfits haven't gotten to Twi the way they have to Swahili. One way we could get their attention is to start buying up what education sources there are. If you just want to get your feet wet, Pimsleur has a neat little intro kit. If you really want to get into it, then get this offering and remember to get the audio materials, too, since they're the only way to get the knack of the tones. Page 1 of 2 NEXT PAGE > Powered by Livefyre


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I'm in Columbus as well, and I think the Park of Roses would be wonderful. Maybe sometime in June?
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I love this idea!! I'd bring some people with me. I'd love to meet some local Nerdfighters!
Hey guys, so what do you think about finding a date in the next two weeks or so? I'll suggest the 12th - does that work for anyone?
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I just joined this site :D And I'd love to meetup with some fellow
I live in Cincinnati, so perhaps at Colerain Park or somewhere similar. Lots of parks around here. c:
I'm in Cincinnati and would love to get a group together! Colerain Park would be awesome, I love their playset :)
I'd love to have a gathering. I really want to meet some nerdfighters near me. I live in Columbus as well. There are quite a few parks around here that we could hang out at.
I'm only 20-30 minutes from Columbus, I don't know where the Park of Roses is but I'm sure I can find out!
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Once upon a time, physicists raised eyebrows when they said we existed in multiple universes. But this "many worlds" theory has become widely accepted since it was first proposed in 1957 by eccentric physicist Hugh Everett.
Everett, who died in 1982 at the age of 51, is the subject of a new documentary, Parallel Worlds, Parallel Lives, which airs today at 8 P.M. Eastern time on PBS. Journalist Peter Byrne, whose 2007 profile of Everett in Scientific American explains the theory and describes Everett's troubled private and professional life, appears in the film.
"If everything physically possible happens in the universe, why do we only see one possibility at a time? That's the question philosophers are beating their heads bloody trying to answer," Byrne tells us. "Everett's answer is there's more than one you, and you are splitting into trillions of copies of yourself every time there's a quantum interaction of a certain size."
Sound weird? Many physicists consider it less wacky than what had been the orthodoxy: the Copenhagan Interpretation, which holds that the alternative realities simply cease to exist, or "collapse," whenever we make a measurement. The trouble with the Copenhagan Interpretation is that it offers no explanation for how the collapse would occur. Everett's take, strange as it may sound, is in many ways the most straightforward reading of the equations of quantum theory, according to Max Tegmark, who in a 2003 article for Scientific American described it as "unadulterated quantum theory."
Now, though it was almost uniformly dismissed half a century ago, the many worlds theory has been gaining credence; it was the subject of a conference held at Oxford University last year, where philosophers pondered what happens to the concept of time when probability must be defined in terms of parallel universes.
Visitors to the film's Web site can read two previously unpublished documents that Everett's son, EELS singer-guitarist Mark, 45, found among the 25 boxes of his father's belongings. One of the documents is from an early draft of Everett's doctoral dissertation, in which he uses the metaphor of an amoeba splitting to explain his many worlds theory. In the other, he responds to cosmologist Bryce DeWitt, who told Everett that his theory was a "beautiful mathematical formula, but I do not feel myself split," according to Byrne.
In addition to Everett's many worlds concept, viewers of the documentary will learn about his time working on game theory in operations research at the Pentagon, where he created algorithms for "the best ways to fight and the best ways not to fight," Byrne says.
"He's the quintessential technocrat who went to work preparing for nuclear Armageddon and he drank himself to death—go figure," Byrne says.
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Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisNicotine addicted alcoholic reproduces in the usual manner. Result: male offspring. Same guy goes on to speculate on mathematical proof of untestable physical claims, then dies prematurely (do you wonder why?). Son goes on to profit as professional musician. Son successfully negotiates paternal association for economic gain via PBS enterprises (your tax dollars at work). So where is the science? I missed it, not by accident.
Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisWonderful theory! It could explain so much! It turned my mind onto a new path of thinking... hummm, could be a first step to something big, following the string theory and hyperspace. It could give more meaning to life itself and it's mystery.
Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisWhile it is true that this program dealt more with a son's exploration of his late father's brilliant insight, I believe that it is important for the handful of people on this planet who are capable of understanding the world of Quantum Physics to attempt to garner interest and support in the field of Physics. PBS is funded entirely with dollars from people like myself who believe it important to provide human beings with interesting and accurate data about the world in which we live. I advise people to pay attention in the coming years. Physics is in the process of turning the world as we know it on it's ear.
Reply | Report Abuse | Link to thisIf Everett is right, then he only drank himself to death in some set of worlds. There are many other worlds in which he continues to confound himself and others with his theories. Probably one world in which he is a retired plumber.
Distributed individual mortality across many worlds raises interesting questions. When the very last you reaches the point of infinite improbability, who/what should be there to greet you? Why God of course, an infinitely improbable being.
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OK, first things first. I'm not writing this to tweak anyone's nose, nor am I trying to start an argument for the sake of said argument. I truly want to know what those of you on this board who are believers feel about the topic I'm about to bring up. I almost wrote this on the NIU post, but decided to make it a new post simply because I didn't want to hijack Joe's thoughtful words about his sister-in-law. So, with that caveat, here goes. In Joe's post I quoted Rabbi Laszlo Berkowits, who when asked where was God during the Holocaust asked instead "where was man?" I think it's a pretty powerful statement, but it points to one of the main reasons that I lean toward athiesm. Believers are always saying God doesn't cause bad things to happen, but rather, in a case like the NIU shooting, it is the fault of a single man. But yet, I'm told that God is this all-knowing and all-powerful being that created the world out of nothing and populated it with man and all the animals and could do anything he chooses. Man, in God's infinite wisdom, is given free will, however, and so can either choose to accept or reject God and his teachings, and it is from this rejection that evil happens. Forget about personal things like disease or heartache. I'm talking about external actions, or actions outside of man's ability to control. In other words, I'm not talking about someone who gets lung cancer after smoking for 40 years. In all this, no one has ever been able to explain to me why a just and loving God would allow those people who are innocent to have to pay for the sins of someone who rejected him. The shooter at NIU may have been a believer, or he may have been an atheist, I don't know. But because he chose to reject God's commandment not to kill, five people are now dead and several families will have to deal with this for years to come (including the shooter's family). And don't tell me they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. If God exists, and if God is omniscient, he knew what this person was going to do. He knew this person wasn't going to shoot himself until he was able to kill other people. In this knowledge, and by not stopping it, he allowed those people to die. In her book Evil in Modern Thought, Susan Nieman paraphrases the words of Pierre Bayle (1647-1706) a French Protestant who wrote constantly on the problem of evil in the world. Nieman writes "To imagine a God who judges many of the forms of life He created to be sinful, then tortures us eternally for our brief participation in them, is hardly to imagine a solution to the problem of evil. Positing a God who may permit infinite and eternal suffering is of little help in stilling doubt about a God who clearly permits finite and temporal suffering." (pg. 19) Where was God? More and more, I am coming to the conclusion that he is only in the mind. Best Rob |
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Booklover, I can understand how you have come to feel the way you do. I myself am becoming more and more convinced that if there is a Supreme Being (or Beings), he/she/they aren't in the JudeoChristian model of Godliness, but rather, more like the old Gods - say, the Greco-Roman or Norse Deities. They don't give a hoot about us mortals, except to use and abuse us according to whatever momentary whim that strikes them dictates. Faith is faith, and this works for me. I can have a God of Love and Mercy and all that stuff, but I don't trust Him any farther than I could throw Him - at any moment, he could shank me, or kill a grandchild in a car accident, or give my father pancreatic cancer, or send a plague or a famine. Valhalla, I am coming. |
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Where is God during tragedy?? Same place he has been since the beginning of time on his throne. I am a believer do my best and go to church, read the word and pray. If you read the bible it is full of tragedy and how God uses it for his will and his ultimate plan. Booklover wrote Believers are always saying God doesn't cause bad things to happen Book I would like to say that either the believers where taught wrong or couldnt explain to you correctly . God dosnt cause bad things to happen (he does not sap people) he will however let Satan (if you believe in God you have to believe in satan) do his will as the ruler of this world . My example would be Job in the old testament. I had it explained this way to me . Life is like a parade we cant see the whole parade from start to finish from our vantage point on the curb but if we move up to the top of a local building we can see the parade from start to finish (Gods Perspective) and it all becomes clear. My point is that Satan is to blame or free will your choice to decide what works for you . Every bad thing that happens happens for a reason God Does use bad to make good things happen. Think of sept 11 why did God allow that day to happen , In my view many lives where changed for the better that day in the face of a national tragedy, The gov. has stopped terroist events that might have been worse than 11th I will never know. There is a book I would recomend to you "God at Ground Zero" By Ray Guinta . This is an age old question one that someone can point you in the right direction , like some folks have done for you , but the bottom line believing in God is a decision you have to make on faith with your heart, not your intellect . You just have to take on faith that a good who God is this all-knowing and all-powerful being that created the world out of nothing and populated it with man and all the animals and could do anything he chooses. Man, in God's infinite wisdom, As a believer you have to believe that God in his Infinite Wisdom as you said will use events in your life and others lifes to produce his utimate plan for the good of man kind . To quote Tod Agnew my favorite Christian artist In his song "where were you?" which is basically a song about a man asking this same question Gods reply is "Where were you when I split the sky and sea, where were you when I taught the lion to roar,where were you when I made electricity fall from the sky during a thunderstrom , Where were you?" Last edited on Sun Feb 17th, 2008 09:14 pm by younglobo |
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OK, so far I haven't really seen much that answers my question. I'm not wondering about the evil this guy committed, but rather how can a God who is supposed to be so merciful and good can justify allowing five innocent people to die and several others to be wounded just because one man decided to quit taking his medication. If God is so weak that he cannot stop such a action, or so uncaring that he won't, then what possible reason would I have to believe in him? Best Rob |
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How does god let newborn babies, infants, children suffer? The most difficult aspects of my job is sitting down with parents to tell them they have lost their infant or child. Thus, my question, which is similar to yours, has been raised by myself for decades. On a similar note, I've seen infants survive who I felt had not even a miniscule chance of survival survive while on the other hand have lost some who I felt stood a good chance. Also, I certainly believe in evolution and how we arose from 2 cells. I can't as a scientist buy into the biblical description of creation in 7 days. Irregardless of this, it doesn't affect my beliefs. However, I also believe that life is too complex just to have been created without a plan. In summation, I think your question has been asked for centuries, not just by christians. My answer is that one just has to have faith in the one above whether his/her name is god, allah, budda, etc. and lead a good a life as one can. Doc C |
Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 05:35 pm |
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booklover.. If God where the kind of superman God that alot of people are looking for (to solve all of our problems) that would eliminate free will and thus you would have no reason to turn to him except as a great problem solver, you would not love him ,people would just use god for thier own means. God loves us and is looking for love in return . JOHN 3:16 DOC C is correct this is the age old question. Faith as he said is the only answer. I choose Christ he is the only one out of the 3 God, allah & budda that gave a free gift to me and anyone else that wants it and has faith. |
Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 06:32 pm |
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Booklover: The answers to your questions are in what you originally posted, if you reject them that still doesn't mean they aren't the answers. God gives us all a full life to serve him. For some of us it lasts minutes, for others years. |
Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 10:28 pm |
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David.. good consise, great answer excellent post |
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oh and amen brother |
Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 11:51 pm |
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These are the same questions individuals from the north and south faced during and after the civil war. Look at Lincoln's last inauguration speech. Doc C Last edited on Mon Feb 18th, 2008 11:52 pm by Doc C |
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It's called free agency. We were all given it. "In all this, no one has ever been able to explain to me why a just and loving God would allow those people who are innocent to have to pay for the sins of someone who rejected him" Booklover, It sounds to me like you're trying to disprove Jesus on the cross in a round about way. I was given children to raise and I take that job seriously. I can "foresee" certain situations where my kids will get hurt. I can step in every single instance and intervene as an annoying, over protective mom or I can let my kids live, learn and grow. My best learning came from my parents allowing me to be me and experience heartache and pain and even embarrassment. They taught me their best and hoped for the best (still do!!). I look at God as more of a Heavenly Father. He has given me tools to have the best and hopes for the best. I listen more intently to the words of an optimistic person, who still gives heartfelt service to others, even in a time their own personal tragedy, over the pessimistic philosopher/author. |
Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 12:41 am |
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Booklover Tough question. A few thousand years of discussing, debating, fighting and dying over this one still has not given us an answer. I think it all comes down to what you yourself believe in. In my case, my God is not responsible for any event. He (or she) was not responsible for the tragedy at NIU any more than he was responsible for the University of Texas beating Baylor in basketball. He wants the best for all of us. Unfortunately, we humans have a way of messing things up. My God does not answer "gimme prayers" and I am offended when sports teams pray for victory for their team. Of course, the other team is doing the same. So I guess it means the players did not pray hard enough rather than play hard enough when their team loses. My God gives me guidance if I listen. He helps me make the decisions to do the next right thing to get the most out of every day. Ten years ago I could have written your initial post. But some serious illnesses in my family have changed my beliefs. I received no solace from saying "why me?" when these events happened. But I have received much comfort and joy from knowing my higher power. |
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I realize that the questions I've asked are certainly nothing new. People much smarter than I have thought about this and have yet to come up with what I consider to be a satisfying answer. Probably no one ever will. But for those of you who answer that one just has to have faith, I remember the words of Philip Yancy who once wrote that to tell someone who has no faith to just have faith is the cruelest and least helpful thing a person can say. Considering free will, how free is my will if my choice to reject God means that I will go to hell? I know the argument....if I choose to break the law and get caught, there are consequences to that action. I have free will as to whether or not I will break the law. But what if I don't get caught? The free will argument, at least in the terms of consequences, doesn't apply. Choosing to reject God, if free will is truly free, would mean that I would not be able to partake in whatever there might be to partake in when I die, but it shouldn't mean that my soul will forever be condemned to some "fire and brimstone" torture simply because I can't live up to something that no human being supposedly can. If God is this all powerful being, can my skepticism really hurt him that much? Plus, let's face it. If there is a final judgment, and if Christianity is the one true path, there will be a lot of good and decent people who never massacred a bunch of innocent people and did all they could to make the world a better place who will end up writhing in agony because they don't believe in a bunch of contradictory and mythological stories. Finally, if the shooter, whose actions were truly evil, is going to hell, does that mean the victims, who were truly innocent, will go to heaven, even if they were non-believers? Best Rob |
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Life is a test. It is only a test. If it were the real thing, you'd have been given better instructions. ole |
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Before P.M. Dawn was known as the group that literally got tossed off the stage, they were the forefathers of softcore, Drake-style rap. One of their biggest hits is the dramatically titled 'I'd Die Without You,' which was on the popular 'Boomerang' soundtrack and also peaked at No. 3 on the Billboard Hot 100. Alicia Keys is now giving her take on the classic tune.
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SoMo came. SoMo saw. SoMo conquered. Fans from Lafayette, and as far as Texas, made their way out to see SoMo perform live for a sold out crowd at The District. The energy was amazing and the crowd of 1000 screaming fans were at a fever pitch all night long.
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Fears that advances in office technology would mean the end of the secretarial role were unfounded, nevertheless their role is changing. The most sought after secretaries are the personal assistants who are competent with computer packages and who often work much like more junior managers.
Secretarial work is no longer perceived, as it was for some time, as suitable only for a woman. A century ago, before women went out to work, secretaries were male. Now men are choosing to come back to it, usually because they realise that it can be a very good way into a business or administrative career.
Temporary jobs is a way of ensuring variety - you may not know what job you'll be doing the next day. To succeed, therefore, you need to be flexible and get on with a wide range of people and styles of working, as well as having a variety of skills.
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Virtualization is gaining popularity as a technique for testing software and simplifying system administration. A virtualization tool simulates an autonomous machine that is independent of the host system. Unfortunately, many virtualization programs are either expensive, like the market leader VMware, or difficult to use, like Xen. Alternative programs such as Qemu often fail to offer adequate performance in production environments.
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- Ascraeus now uses constants for the phpbb root path and the php extension. This ensures more security for external applications and modifications (no more overwriting of root path and extension possible through insecure mods and register globals enabled) as well as no more globalizing needed.
- A second change implemented here is an additional short-hand-notation for append_sid(). It is allowed to omit the root path and extension now (for example calling append_sid('memberlist')) - in this case the root path and extension get added automatically. The hook is called after these are added.
This is probably the largest commit i have ever seen . I think even larger than the one where they moved to PHP 5.1. Our so beloved $phpEx is leaving us, and so is $phpbb_root_path. They are both being replaced by PHP_EXT and PHPBB_ROOT_PATH. I like the change, i think it's a good move. No more need to global them in every function. Allthough one good point that was pointed out by drathbun a while ago, is that you cannot use it in double quote strings directly anymore. So it's not possible to do:
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See the revision information page for all the changes, but believe me, you don't want to read through them. I like phpBB 3.1 more with every change .


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A Seattle-based law firm specializing in food-bourne illness litigation has filed a class-action lawsuit against Olive Garden after one of its Fayetteville employees tested positive for hepatitis A.
The suit alleges that the restaurant failed in its responsibility to deliver safe food. The worker has been the only known case of illness, but at least 2,730 people have gotten immunizations over the past week at the urging of county health officials.
The lawsuit, prepared by the firm Marler Clark on behalf of Claudia Prescott of Fayetteville, alleges that customers were exposed to potentially contaminated food or people. As a result, patrons sustained damages including lost wages, medical expenses, "fear of harm and humiliation" and physical pain and injury, the complaint says.
The allegations include that Olive Garden was negligent by failing to require its employees to be vaccinated against hepatitis A and by failing to prevent an infected employee from working.
State health regulations require employers to bar sick employees from working in restaurants, said Tony Ferguson, food and lodging supervisor with the Cumberland County Health Department. That means if managers see someone coughing and sneezing, they should send the employee home, he said.
"If you're sick, you're not allowed to work in the restaurant, but you're not required to have the hepatitis A vaccine to work in the restaurant," Ferguson said.
The lawsuit seeks damages in excess of $10,000 from Olive Garden and its parent company, Florida-based GMRI Inc. The suit leaves open the potential for others to join as co-plaintiffs.
Prescott ate at the North McPherson Church Road restaurant on Aug. 1, the suit says. She declined to be interviewed.
Claire Mitchell, a lawyer with Marler Clark, said Prescott had not fallen ill but missed some work to get immunized Aug. 9. The basis for the claim is that people like Prescott had to disrupt their lives to get the shots, not necessarily that they felt emotional distress, she said.
"It's not exactly (about) the fear of getting sick. That's sort of a separate claim," Mitchell said. "The class-action suit is basically for the inconvenience of having to get the shot in the first place, because eating at a restaurant is not supposed to result in having to get an immunization for a virus."
Olive Garden has 30 days to respond to the complaint. Mike Bernstein, a spokesman, said the company does not discuss pending litigation.
Olive Garden officials have said they understood the Health Department's decision to alert the public after the employee tested positive for hepatitis A. But the company expressed concern that the warnings had confused the public. Hepatitis A is not easily transmitted when workers are properly washing their hands, said the company, which also stressed that only one person was sick.
County health officials said they urged people to seek vaccines as a "very, very preventive" effort to prevent an outbreak.
The Health Department's last free clinic for vaccines will be Monday, for anyone who visited Olive Garden on Aug. 8. The site is 1235 Ramsey St. For more information, call 433-3638.
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With rugged waterproof, shockproof, crushproof, coldproof and dustproof construction, the Optio WG-2 is the perfect companion for capturing images or Full HD video in almost any environment. Equipped with a 16 MP backlit CMOS image sensor, state-of-the-art imaging engine, wide angle internal optical zoom lens, large high-resolution LCD monitor and inventive Digital Microscope mode with LED lens lighting.
- The 16.0 effective megapixel back-illuminated CMOS image sensor delivers super-high-resolution images. The new imaging engine applies the latest super-resolution technology to its image processing operations to assure sharp, clear, high-resolution images.
- The Optio WG-2 is the perfect choice for active photographers who shoot pictures in demanding conditions. It can be used underwater continuously for up to 2 hours at a depth of up to 12m. Its crushproof construction can withstand weights up to 100 KGF (kilogram-force) and shockproof design protects it against drops of 1.5m. It also offers remarkable dustproof performance to protect the camera from dry, dusty environments and exceptional cold-resistant performance for reliable operation at temperatures as low as –10°C
- Capture beautiful, flawless movie clips in Full HD 1080p video at 30 FPS with high quality h.264 compression. Includes a high-speed camera function* for slow-motion playback of captured movie clips and an interval movie function to simplify advanced movie-recording techniques. The Optio WG-2 also has a micro-HDMI micro terminal for output of Full HD movie clips and sound to external devices.
* When this function is selected, the recorded size is fixed at VGA (640 x 480 pixels).
- 5X wide angle internal optical zoom lens, covering an angle of view equivalent to approximately 28 to 140 mm in 35 mm format is ideal for shooting a broad spectrum of subjects, from landscapes to indoor, portrait or group photos.
- Combining a macro shooting capability from as close as 1cm away with its 6 LED Macro Lighting and unique Macro Stand, the Digital Microscope mode delivers magnified sharp pictures of even the smallest subjects, like insects, or the veins of a leaf.
- The Large 3-inch LCD features HVGA resolution (460,000 dots) and a 16:9 widescreen aspect ratio. A special AR (Anti-Reflection) coating cuts the glare of external light and minimizes reflections, making it easy to observe the subject, monitor recorded images and view on-screen menus, even in bright sunlight.
- Triple anti-shake protection to prevent different types of camera shake: Pixel Track SR mode effectively compensates for camera shake during still-image shooting digitally without increasing image noise, Digital SR mode automatically raises the sensitivity up to ISO 6400 under poor-lighting conditions and the Movie SR mode prevents blurry images by effectively minimizing camera shake through the use of exclusive software.
- The Face Detection function detects up to 32 faces- even the faces of dogs and cats- in the image field, then catches them in sharp focus and in optimum exposure in as little as 0.03 seconds. The Self-portrait Assist function uses the blink of the LED lights to confirm whether the subject's face is safely captured within the picture frame.
- Auto Picture mode automatically selects the most appropriate shooting mode from 16 different scene modes.
- Digital Wide mode composes an extra-wide-angle picture (equivalent to approx. 21mm wide angle in the 35mm format) from two separate images.
- Capture images remotely with infrared remote control capabilities (using optional PENTAX remote controller).
- Includes a woven web fabric strap complete with a carabiner to attach the camera to a backpack and other outdoor gear.
- MediaImpression 3.5 for PENTAX (Windows version) and MediaImpression 2.1 for PENTAX (Macintosh version) image viewing, editing and filing software included
(compatible with latest operation systems, Windows 7 and Mac OS X 10.7)
Optio WG-2 Features
Optio WG-2 Specifications
Sensor | |
Type | 1/2.3 inch Backlit CMOS with primary colour filter |
Effective Pixels | 16 megapixels |
Total Pixels | 16.79 megapixels |
Recording Pixels | Still: 16M (4608x3456), 12M (1:1, 3456x3456), 12M (16:9, 4608x2592), 7M (3072x2304), 5M (16:9, 3072x1728), 5M (2592x1944), 4M (16:9, 2592x1464), 3M (2048x1536), 2M (16:9, 1920x1080), 1024 (1024x768), VGA (640x480) Movie: HD (1920x1080p30, 1280x720p60/30), VGA (640x480p30) |
Quality Levels | Still: ★★★ Best, ★★ Better, ★Good Movie: Fixed |
Lens | |
Type/construction | PENTAX zoom lens, 11 elements, 9 groups (5 aspheric elements), protective cover with SP coating |
Focal length (equiv.) | 5-25mm (28-140mm) |
Aperture | F3.5-5.5 |
Optical zoom | 5X |
Digital zoom | 7.2X |
Combined zoom | 36X |
Intelligent zoom | Approx 7.5X at 7M to 36X at VGA |
Type | 3" TFT widescreen TFT colour LCD with anti-reflective coating Approx. 460,000 dots |
Flash | |
Type | Built-in series control auto flash |
Modes | Auto, Flash Off, Flash On, Auto + Redeye, On + Redeye |
Effective range | 5.5m (wide, auto ISO), 3.5m (tele, auto ISO) |
Focusing System | |
Type | TTL contrast detection autofocus, AF assist lamp, Macro Illuminating LEDs |
Focus modes | 9 point AF, Spot AF, Auto Tracking AF, Macro, Super Macro, Infinity Landscape, Pan Focus, Manual Focus |
Focus lock | Yes, by pressing the shutter release button half way |
Focus range | Normal: 0.5m to infinity Macro: 0.1-0.6m Super Macro: 0.01-0.3m (at mid-zoom, set automatically) |
Metering System | |
Type | TTL metering: Choice of Multi-segment metering, Centre-weighted metering, Spot metering |
Exposure Compensation | ±2EV(1/3EV steps) |
Sensitivity | |
Auto | 125-6400 auto range adjustable |
Manual | 125-6400 |
White Balance | |
Modes | Auto, Daylight, Shade, Tungsten light, Fluorescent light, Manual setting |
Image Stabilization | |
Still | Pixel Track SR, Digital SR |
Movie | Movie SR |
Shutter | |
Type | Programmed AE mechanical and electronic shutter mechanism |
Shutter speed | 1/4000 to 1/4 sec (up to 4 sec in Night Scene mode) |
Drive Modes | |
Mode selection | One Shot, Self Timer, Continuous, Burst, Remote Control, Auto Bracket |
Continuous FPS | Approx 1.0 FPS |
Self-timer | Yes (10 sec, 2 sec) |
Remote control | Infrared (using optional PENTAX remote Controller) |
Capture Modes | |
Mode selection | Auto Picture (Landscape, Portrait, Night Scene, Night Scene Portrait, Standard, Flower, Sport, Candlelight, Blue Sky, Sunset, Text, Group Photo, Pet, Portrait x Blue Sky, Portrait x Sunset, Portrait x Backlight), Program, Night Scene, Handheld Night Snap (ISO 125-1600), Movie, Underwater, Underwater Movie, Digital Microscope (2M), Landscape, Flower, Portrait, Interval Shot, Interval Movie, High Speed Movie (VGA, 120 FPS capture, 30 FPS playback), Digital SR, Digital Wide (5M), Surf & Snow, Kids, Pet, Sport, Fireworks, Candlelight, Night Scene Portrait, Text, Food, Digital Panorama (2M per frame), Frame Composite (3M or 2M), Report (1280x960, ISO 125-1600), Green (ISO 125-1600), Voice Recording (via reprogrammable Green button) |
Face detection | Yes (up to 32 faces), Smile Capture, Blink Detection, Self Portrait Assist, Self Portrait Assist + Smile Capture, Pet Recognition (1 face detect, 3 faces pre-registered), |
Date stamp | Yes, date, date-time, time (not available in Green mode) |
Dynamic Range Adjustment | Yes (highlight and shadow correction) |
Playback Modes | |
Mode selection | One Shot, Index (6 or 12 thumbnails), Magnification, Movie Playback, Sound Playback, Histogram, Folder Display, Select & Delete, Calendar |
Mode palette | Slideshow, Image Rotation, Small Face Filter, Ink Rubbing Filter, Collage, Digital Filter, HDR Filter, Original Frame (5M or 4M), Frame Composite (3M or 2M), Movie Edit, Redeye Edit, Resize, Cropping, Image & Sound Copy, Voice Memo, Protect, DPOF, Image Recovery, Startup Screen, Face Zooming |
Digital filters (playback) | B&W, Sepia, Toy Camera, Retro, Colour, Colour Extract, Colour Emphasis, High Contrast, Starburst, Soft, Fisheye, Brightness, Miniature |
Movie edit | Save as still image, movie divide |
File Formats | |
Still | JPG (EXIF 2.3), DCF 2.0, DPOF, Print Image Matching III |
Movie (compression) | MP4 (AVC h.264) |
Sound | WAV (PCM), monaural |
Storage Media | |
Internal memory | 88.2MB |
Removable memory | SD, SDHC, SDXC |
Interfaces | |
Ports | USB 2.0 hi-speed, AV out, HDMI (Micro Type-D) |
Video out | NTSC, PAL, HD (HDMI supports HD Auto, 1080i, 720p, 480p) |
Power Supply | |
Power source | Rechargeable Li-Ion battery D-LI92 |
Recordable images | Approx 260* |
Playback time | Approx 240 min** |
Movie recording time | Approx 70 min** |
Audio recording time | Approx 270 min** |
AC adapter available | Yes (optional) |
* Recording capacity above shows approximate number of shots recorded during CIPA-compliant testing. Actual performance may vary depending on operating conditions. ** According to the result of PENTAX in-house testing. |
Physical Specifications | |
Dimensions | 122.5 x 61.5 x 29.5 mm (W x H x D) |
Weight | Without battery or removable memory: 173g Loaded and ready: 194g |
Operating temperature | -10-40°C (coldproof) |
Weather Resistant | Yes, JIS Class 8 waterproof submersible to 12m, JIS Class 6 dustproof |
Shock Resistant | Yes, shockproof to 1.5m |
Language Support | |
Languages | English, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Finnish, Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Turkish, Greek, Russian, Thai, Korean, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Japanese |
Computer System Requirements* | |
*For device connectivity. Bundled software requirements may vary. Windows: Windows XP(SP3)/Vista/7, USB port Mac: Mac OS 10.4, 10.5, 10.6, 10.7, USB port |
Optio WG-2 Accessories
AC Adapter Kit K-AC117U
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Battery Charger Kit K-BC92U
Model No. 39805 -
Rechargeable L-ION Battery D-LI92
Model No. 39800 -
Waterproof Remote Control O-RC1
Model No. 39892 -
Floating Strap
Model No. 88206
What's In the Box
- USB Cable I-USB7
- Rechargeable Li-Ion Battery D-LI92
- Battery Charger Kit K-BC92U
- Carabiner Strap O-ST124
- Macro Stand O-MS1
- Software CD-ROM S-SW125


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Police investigating armed robbery on U of R campus
Posted at: 01/21/2013 6:53 AM
Police are investigating an armed robbery on the University of Rochester campus.
Police tell News10NBC the robbery took place around 7 p.m. Sunday at 510 University Park. Investigators say there were two victims at the home, both 27-year-old Rochester men, and items were taking during the robbery.
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