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Our Secular Coalition visit to the White House
Representatives from the Secular Coalition for America met with White House officials on February 26 to discuss issues of concern to secular Americans. We were grateful to have a place at the table, with a chance to hear from Obama administration representatives, and for them to hear from us about issues that affect all Americans. This historic meeting marked the first time in history that a presidential administration has met for a policy briefing with the American nontheist community.
The Secular Coalition for America includes 10 national nontheistic member organizations, and its mission has two goals: to increase the visibility of, and respect for, nontheistic viewpoints in the United States; and to protect and strengthen the secular character of our government as the best guarantee of freedom for all. Aside from the discussion of our issues with White House officials, the mere presence in that place for about 60 of our representatives from around the country marked a proud moment for all secular Americans.
Before giving particulars, I want to dispel some grossly unfair but predictable media comments that show why we are working so diligently to fulfill our mission. In response to the news that we would meet at the White House, the advocacy group called In God We Trust ripped the Obama administration "for meeting to plot political strategy with 60 atheist activists." Its chairman, Bishop Council Nedd, said we represent "some of the most hate-filled, anti-religious groups in the nation."
Then Sean Hannity claimed on Fox News that the Obama administration is giving special treatment to atheists, and that religious groups "have not received this treatment from the Obama White House." I suppose in Hannity's America a two-hour meeting with Secular Americans is "special treatment." But a recent two-day meeting sponsored by the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, with more than 60 religious leaders gathered at the White House, was not special. Perhaps meetings between White House officials and religious leaders really are nothing special, since they occur on a regular basis. And President Obama has met with and paid deference to numerous religious leaders, including Pope Benedict, which brings me to another media alert about the Secular Coalition for America.
The headline in a press release from the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights stated, "Obama Aides Host Catholic Bashers." Catholic League president Bill Donohue referred to representatives of the Secular Coalition for America as "some of the biggest anti-religious zealots in the nation," and that many of us "would crush Christianity" if we could. (Interestingly, my dictionary defines "zealot" as a fanatical adherent to a cause, especially a religious one.) The Catholic League ended its diatribe with, "It is important that the public learn of the contents of this meeting. We will do what we can to find out what happened." What on earth are they expecting--an atheist plot to take over the government?
Apparently, the Catholic League's crack investigative team never thought to contact any of the Secular Coalition representatives at the meeting. So for the Catholic League and others who would rather opine than investigate, I'll make it easy for you by telling what happened at the meeting.
Administration officials included Tina Tchen, Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement; Paul Monteiro, Associate Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs; Bryan Samuels, Commissioner of the Administration on Children, Youth and Families in the Department of Health and Human Services; Mazen Basrawi, Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the Department of Justice; and Bill Carr, Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Military Personnel.
These are the topics we addressed.
Childhood medical neglect and abuse: We seek to close legal loopholes for the religiously based medical neglect of children, because no child should ever have to suffer for lack of medical attention, regardless of a parent's motivation. Liz Heywood, a survivor of a childhood bone disease left untreated by her Christian Science parents, was scheduled to speak, but unable to attend due to weather-related travel difficulties. Sasha Bartolf, Legislative Director of the Secular Coalition, read her moving statement.
Military proselytizing and coercion: We seek to ensure that the men and women who risk their lives to protect American values, including freedom of conscience, are respected at all levels of the U.S. military. No service members should ever be coerced into religious participation, subjected to proselytizing, or discriminated against because of their religious beliefs or lack thereof. Those who spoke included Kathleen Johnson, Vice President and Military Director for American Atheists, and past President of the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers. She is a retired Army First Sergeant and a Department of the Army civilian. Jason Torpy also spoke. He is a former Army Captain, Operation Iraqi Freedom veteran and West Point graduate, who serves as president of the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers. MAAF is a nontheist community with members in all branches around the world.
Fixing faith-based initiatives: We seek to make certain that religious organizations receiving federal funding for social welfare programs cannot discriminate in hiring on the basis of religion; that program beneficiaries are never subject to proselytizing; and that secular options are made equally available to those in need. Sean Faircloth, Executive Director of the Secular Coalition and former Majority Whip in the Maine legislature, spoke on unfulfilled promises by the Obama administration to fix abuses that unconstitutionally funnel money to religious institutions.
So there you have the Secular Coalition for America agenda presented to White House officials. We think these secular values are also American values. It's not religion bashing or Christian bashing to mention that government neutrality toward religion is not the same as government hostility, that the government should not favor one religion over another or religion in general over non-religion, and that over 30 million Americans are good without God.
Those who continually accuse the Secular Coalition for America of hate-filled, religion bashing apparently haven't even checked our website. You'll see policy statements consistent with our positive mission. We may disagree with some religious activities and discriminatory remarks directed toward nontheists, but you will find no blanket condemnation of religion.
Of course, nothing will stop rants from those who would rather denigrate and stereotype than examine evidence.
Herb Silverman
February 28, 2010; 8:22 AM ET
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Regarding the biased information in this article on Christian Science, I have been a member of this church, and related faiths, for over 25 years, and I have seen remarkable recoveries from a wide variety of ailments, that medical opinion would call impossible.
To assume that the medical solution, which in many cases is based on guesswork and can be subject to incorrect diagnosis and errors in treatment, is the only answer is to disregard centuries of proven alternative and complementary treatments.
For the record, the choice of healthcare for Christian Science families is not mandated but free choice. Christian Science parents are by and large caring, concerned and informed, and trust in prayer because it has worked for them.
Posted by: bobschwaller | March 8, 2010 2:53 PM
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Here in far-away Britain, across the pond, you'll find many who were delighted to hear of the meeting with Obama's aides. And not all of us are religion-bashers. There are growing communities of open-minded humanists who utterly reject the supernatural but respect the poetic, mythic, and sometimes inspirational language of religious discourse. They include nontheist Quakers andd Unitarians, and members of the Sea of Faith movement who understand religion as a wholly human creation. Interested? Bemused? Try reading "Godless for God's Sake", by 27 Nontheist Quakers from the USA, Britain, New Zealand and Australia, edited by David Boulton and available through Amazon and other internet booksellers. You might find it adds a rich new dimension to your secularism.
Posted by: dboultondent | March 4, 2010 5:39 AM
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It's Official; MOSES & JESUS & MUHAMMAD, was Closet ATHEISTS because they believed in "IT", born from our Holy BIG-BANG. And
VYASA & GAUTAMA was closet AGNOSTICS because they too suspected the BIG-BANG or was it BIG-FLASH 1st, then Bang 2nd & Vibrations 3rd?.
Note: Recently Big Mouth Singer Sir ELTON JOHN said "JESUS IS GAY"; So Who cares!-?
WE SECULARIST & NONTHEISTS, a/k/a ATHEISTS & AGNOSTICS... don't Discriminate. All Are Welcome to Reality, a/k/a TRUTH!
The Election is Coming, The Election is Coming, The Ele.....
Posted by: oldsong1 | March 2, 2010 2:41 PM
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As usual the vitriol that emanates from the religious right is of no help. Our freedom to worship or not as we please depend on the constant vigilance of organizations like the Secular Coalition of America. Hurrah for the Obama administration's decision to recognize and give voice to those who would stand up for our liberties as described in our nation's constitution.
Posted by: veginpost | March 2, 2010 12:21 PM
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An update on the two recently arrested for setting 10 fires in Texas churches.
"TYLER, Texas — Even as authorities closed in, one of the two suspects in a string of east Texas church fires attended a Sunday service and went to a Baptist ministry on his junior college campus for a free meal."
Posted by: YEAL9 | March 2, 2010 11:15 AM
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chops2 wrote "i seem to recall a while back u claiming that it was only athiests and secularists that burned churches..."
This is a false accusation but reading the same article you presented, the arsonist WAS a former Christian and became a secularists and a fan of Friedrich Nietzsche who is an atheist.
As I always say, stupidity is self-destructive. It's been proven again with this church burning.
Posted by: spidermean2 | March 2, 2010 9:49 AM
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For BobMoses,
I have no problem with being tolerant of other people's views, as long as they aren't imposed onto captive audiences or in conjunction with government business. Feel free to believe, and to express your belief, in as many gods or as few gods as you wish -- as long as there is no expectation that I have to be part of your discussion.
Oh, a side question. Why is it that Christianists is so intent on putting plaques of the Ten Commandments on public lands but almost never put them on the front lawns of their own churches?
Posted by: edallan | March 2, 2010 9:23 AM
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US-Conscience: "'subjected to proselytizing' - Oh the humanity!!! Does that include having conversations with someone of faith concerning eternal matters?"
bobmoses: "Of course! Don't you realize that only atheists are allowed to discuss spiritual matters?"
There are proper places for such discussions: houses of worship, prayer meetings, this blog, the occassional street corner. But government institutions are no place for absolutisms unsupported by evidence or logic (i.e. faith).
No, atheists by definition have no desire to "discuss spiritual matters," nor do secularists wish to dictate any such discussion. We simply refuse to pay for, or abide by, your various superstitions.
Posted by: buckminsterj | March 2, 2010 9:09 AM
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I think that TJMRC has the wrong administration and political party in mind with respect to appointing and hanging out with people of shady morals, etc.
Do "C Street House" and "The Family" ring a bell with you? Senator David Vitter and the head of PEPFAR, who both espoused traditional values, abstinence only, etc. -- except of course for their own use of hookers? The gynecologist in (I think) the Food and Drug Administration who believed in marital rape? Feel like going for a hike along the Appalachian Trail?
There's an extremely and extraordinary long list of Republican politicians and appointees with documented histories of, um, irregularities.
If Christianists feel so comfortable in their own skins, why are they so intent on inflicting their views on other people? Are they trying to convince themselves that if they can persuade others, then maybe their own doubts can be brushed aside?
Posted by: edallan | March 2, 2010 8:38 AM
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Thirty-two countries have or had god in their mottos. For example:
Brunei: الدائمون المحسنون بالهدى (Arabic, Always in service with God's guidance)
Confederate States of America: Deo Vindice (Latin, Under God, Our Vindicator)
Denmark: Motto of Queen Margrethe II:
Ecuador: Dios, patria y libertad (Spanish, God, homeland and liberty)[
God's help, the love of the people, Denmark's strength
Dominican Republic: Dios, Patria, Libertad (Spanish, God, Country, Liberty
Morocco: الله، الوطن، الملك (Arabic, God, the Country, the King
Philippines: Maka-Diyos, Maka-Tao, Makakalikasan at Makabansa (Tagalog, For God, People, Nature and Country
Poland: No official motto. Among the unofficial ones Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna (Polish, God, Honor, Fatherland)
Russian Empire - С нами Бог (God is with us)
Posted by: YEAL9 | March 2, 2010 8:06 AM
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Considering the moralities (or lack thereof) of obama and those he has chosen as advisors, life mates, government appointees, etc. I'm not surprised that he would be honored to meet with these types.
If you can't find security in self you look outside and find those who appear to have even less security (I know. They put up a big front about being secure) in order to try to achieve the balance you so desparately need.
obama is more to be pitied for his views because the life he led gave him very little moral direction.
Posted by: tjmlrc | March 2, 2010 8:05 AM
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Good news! I'm glad to hear that the White House is finally paying some attention to the non-religious as well as the religious.
Posted by: EvilOverlord | March 2, 2010 7:43 AM
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"" subjected to proselytizing " - Oh the humanity !!!
Does that include having conversations with someone of faith concerning eternal matters?"
Of course! Don't you realize that only atheists are allowed to discuss spiritual matters? Surely you don't expect intellectual consistency from liberals. You might as well expect these people to be tolerant of the views of others. Ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: bobmoses | March 2, 2010 7:37 AM
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" subjected to proselytizing " - Oh the humanity !!!
Does that include having conversations with someone of faith concerning eternal matters ?
Posted by: US-conscience | March 2, 2010 7:33 AM
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Secularists at the White House?
Anything is better than the snake oil salesmen like Dobson and Robertson calling themselves "Fundamentalists." Fundamentally, they are as corrupt as Republican politicians and lobbyists.
Posted by: BigTrees | March 2, 2010 6:42 AM
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i seem to recall a while back u claiming that it was only athiests and secularists that burned churches....
Another example of how full of s%#t u are
Posted by: Chops2 | March 2, 2010 3:37 AM
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In candor, I don't know anything about the people whom the Secular Coalition got to meet except for their job titles, but except for Mr. Carr from DOD and to a limited extent Mr. Samuels from HHS, it does not appear that any of them are in any position to do anything except politely listen. Most notably absent was anyone, let alone anyone with authority, from the "office of siphoning large amounts of taxpayer money to go primarily to Protestant organizations."
I suspect that Mr. Donahue has had more than one meeting over the past year with actual senior Administration officials during which he put forth his own agenda
"Administration officials included Tina Tchen, Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement; Paul Monteiro, Associate Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs; Bryan Samuels, Commissioner of the Administration on Children, Youth and Families in the Department of Health and Human Services; Mazen Basrawi, Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the Department of Justice; and Bill Carr, Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Military Personnel."
Posted by: edallan | March 2, 2010 3:12 AM
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It's good to know that the Obama administration is meeting sane people. Going by the contents of this thread there aren't a great many of them left in America.
Half the posts are entirely unintelligible or inchoate.
Personally I believe that believing in god is a mental disease and teaching children about the great doo-dad in the sky is child abuse.
Posted by: jamesmmoylan | March 2, 2010 1:55 AM
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"In God We Trust". It is not coincidental that the only nation in the world which proudly expresses this motto is also the most free and staunch defender of freedom.
It can't be said to nations practicing false religions and atheism.
Obama meeting with idiots just exemplifies the stupidity of this president.
Posted by: spidermean2 | March 2, 2010 1:25 AM
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"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to PREACH unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, FEAR God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his JUDGMENT is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. "
This prophecy has not happened yet but is about to occur a few years from now. Stupidity is self-destructive and it will only hasten the destruction of the idiots if they continue in their stupidity.
As Doomsday nears, the preaching will become louder.
Posted by: spidermean2 | March 2, 2010 1:08 AM
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Christians Just because atheists disagree with you doesn't mean you are persecuted, your paranoia is self inflicted, in a twisted way, it validates your faith. Christians romanticize their persecution, so that you can prove your faith, you feel you must be persecuted for your faith, in fact you crave it. If anything, history shows that it is atheists that should fear you and your story book ethics. Most atheists are free thinkers and as such value freedom of thought much higher than the religious. It is our right of freedom of expression that allows diversity of religions in this country not the unconstitutional phrase "In God We Trust". Religion breeds intolerance not free thinking.
Posted by: DrawingYou | March 2, 2010 12:49 AM
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"In the United States, to be exempt from federal income taxes the organization must meet the requirements set forth by the Internal Revenue Service.[12]"
The Secular Coalition of America apparently pays no federal taxes based on their IRS Form 990.
Posted by: YEAL9 | March 1, 2010 11:10 PM
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Well during President Bush's 2 terms Religious Churches got taxpayers money, office in the White House and sent workers to Iraq/Afghanistan to teach children Christian Religion. The mission was to reduce the Muslim Religion and build Religious schools in the USA. Many Pastors got millions as the church preached to worshippers to vote for George W. Bush and all Republicans. It was free money for 8 years until Obama took office. God never got involved in Governments but the Christian Churches saw a profit. Law Makers committed great sin while holding up the Christian Religious Family/Moral Values. But it was said in the bible that Satan would enter the Church and he has.
Posted by: qqbDEyZW | March 1, 2010 11:06 PM
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It has been made clear at least three times on this thread that secularists include believers as well as nonbelievers.
That said, the views of the different secularist populations differ on "degree of separation" as well. Many of us are, in fact, in favor of separating the church and state, along every conceivable line. The "church," as it were, occupies its domains, the state, others.
People are more than welcome to privately gather in their homes or houses of observance, etc. That should be the end of it.
Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 1, 2010 11:05 PM
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I am astonished at the number of people who equate secularism with atheism. The overwhelming majority of secularists are theists. They, or rather, we just want the government to be as neutral as possible in regards to religion. This is not a call for leaders who are devoid of religious commitments or for policies completely divorced from religious ideals. It is just that such policies must have secular justification as well, and they must be defended on that basis.
Government should be though of as an appliance, an entity created to produce material ends that would be difficult or even impossible by other means. These means should promote the general welfare, the specific purpose that is spelled out in the Constitution. It may have taken our society a long time to fulfill the full logic of its words, which are as secular as my refrigerator.
Posted by: SCKershaw | March 1, 2010 10:38 PM
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Kick religion out of the military: If you want to pray, pray. Leave everyone else alone.
End faith-based funding.
End "conscience clauses."
End praying in Congress (also preying)
End nonprofit status for institutions of organized religion.
End Presidential "Faith Councils" (Ick)
MEANWHILE: If you take money from the government, you hire ANYONE qualified, including sand dune worshipers.
Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 1, 2010 10:32 PM
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Must be this guy's ethnicity. Otherwise this stupid stuff wouldn't be crammable even in neocon/zionist WaPo.
On Faith never fails to maintain it's
grubby, uttly repugnant profile.
Posted by: whistling | March 1, 2010 6:00 PM
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Gee, the ChristoNazi bastard Whistling is back again from the swamp.
Odd the ChristoNazi bastard who posts all over WaPo has never been banned. I wonder, do he and his go ChristoNazis (not, of course, to say that all Christians are Nazis), speak well for religious institutions' nonprofit status?
Keep going, Herb. Unlike you, I am a strict separationist, am in the process of trying to find an appropriate activist group, but fear we might have to start one. Secularist activists must include believers, agnostics, atheists committed to separation of church and state.
Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 1, 2010 10:21 PM
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Posted by: thebump | March 1, 2010 9:26 PM
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Hugh7 wrote "When this was written and the Argument from Design was the only argument in town, that statement might have been supportable, but since 1859, it hasn't been."
I hope somebody from the evolutionist side explain how plants were formed thru evolution or natural selection when there was only soil, water, air and the sun.
What kind of selection took place? Selecting the right mud?
Thousands of questions need to be answered first before we allow evolution to jump from sci-fi comic book classification into serious science.
Posted by: spidermean2 | March 1, 2010 8:44 PM
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@Spidermean2: '"The FOOL hath said in his heart that there is no God"'
When this was written and the Argument from Design was the only argument in town, that statement might have been supportable, but since 1859, it hasn't been. It's just argument ad hominem (name-calling).
'Not only is this statement biblical, it is also scientific."'
It is? Then of course it will be no trouble for you to cite the peer-reviewed scientific journal/s in which it has been proved. (I expect at least one double-blinded, randomised trial, in which a large number of subjects filled in questionnaires about their heartfelt belief, and IQ tests - or other verifiable measure of folly - with a statistical analysis of the correlation.)
And the claim that "to say in your heart that there is no God makes you ipso facto a fool" begs the question and is therefore inadmissable.
Posted by: hugh7 | March 1, 2010 8:28 PM
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fr spidermean2:
>...This meeting just shows the ignorance of Obama and his advisers.
One meets with mental patients to cure them and not take some advice from them....
No, it does NOT "show the ignorance....". It shows intelligence, and diversity.
Grow UP, spider, and get a life. Quit whining over the FACT that we have an African-American as President.
Posted by: Alex511 | March 1, 2010 8:27 PM
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I can only laugh that the Post calls this blog "OnFaith". Its most prominent voices are atheists.
Posted by: bobmoses | March 1, 2010 8:26 PM
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Yeal9 wondered: what is this group doing that the ACLU is not doing?
The ACLU engages with the courts to ensure the constitutional rights of individuals not be abridged.
The Secular Coalition for America educates individuals with respect to rational thought v. magical thinking.
Posted by: tojby_2000 | March 1, 2010 7:25 PM
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"The FOOL hath said in his heart that there is no God"
Not only is this statement biblical, it is also scientific.
This meeting just shows the ignorance of Obama and his advisers.
One meets with mental patients to cure them and not take some advice from them.
It is destructive not only for America but also for the world coz America is a major global player.
Belief should be a personal choice and the government should not be making laws prohibiting people from sharing their faith in any government branch including the military.
Posted by: spidermean2 | March 1, 2010 6:35 PM
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Yonkers, New York
01 March 2010
Barack Obama is President of these United States of America, a diverse nation of some 300 million professing different political, ideological, religious, non-religious, ethical and moral values.
It happens that "nontheists" now constitute around 16% of America's total present population of 300 million. That translates to some 48 million "nontheists," a fairly substantial number.
And what good reason is there for a secular President of a secular America not to invite "nontheists" [all Americans] to a meeting at the White House, there to exchange views with them on a number of vital national concerns--when, in fact, President Obama has had no problem with meeting delegations of "theists" such as Roman Catholics, Jews, Protestants, Christian evangelicals and Muslims, the same way in the White House for the same purpose?
I see no good or valid reason for a secular President of these United States to discriminate against "theists" or "non-theists." People belonging to these two major categories are all Americans, and they all have a right to be heard.
Mariano Patalinjug
Posted by: MPatalinjug | March 1, 2010 6:18 PM
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Must be this guy's ethnicity. Otherwise this stupid stuff wouldn't be crammable even in neocon/zionist WaPo.
On Faith never fails to maintain it's
grubby, uttly repugnant profile.
Posted by: whistling | March 1, 2010 6:00 PM
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"By what authority does a secularist judge someone else? Maybe they should; maybe they shouldn't. Who knows where their authority comes from, They certainly can't quote it."
You've never read Aristotle? You've never read any philosophy? You are unaware that we have a legal system based on 1000 years of jurisprudence such that people know if doing something is "against the law" or not. You are unaware that many legal principles of justice from the various systems throughout history often many core judicial concepts that are similar to each other reflecting principles derived from what is needed and what works from thousands of years of history? Not everything is devinely inspired (you don't need a "god" to tell you that its a good thing to allow thievery, for example).
Why do you assume that just because a person doesn't share your faith that they are incapable of being moral actors?
Maybe you should put down your bible and maybe education yourself on topics such as sociology and jurisprudence - actually see how our legal system evolved instead of just assuming that it came from the bible (hint - it didn't)
Posted by: hohandy1 | March 1, 2010 5:33 PM
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am encouraged by the White House allowing the meeting with the Secular Coalition. Maybe there is hope for those of us who yearn for separation of church and state. Separation of church and state is necessary if we are to be truly free. Thank you Dr. Silverman.
Posted by: sux123 | March 1, 2010 5:31 PM
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Salaries for the Secular Coalition of America as listed on their 2008 IRS Form 990 as $150,695 but the only specific salary noted is for Ron Miller, acting director, who is paid $43,925. So where does the other $106,770 go?
At least they pay taxes. Unlike the religious organizations that sponge off the American taxpayer.
Posted by: sux123 | March 1, 2010 5:27 PM
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Who says "no child should" if there is no ultimate authority giving out the rules. These people don't speak for secularists, since secularists have no common credo or agreed set of beliefs.
As such, they can't judge others who don't follow their rules, since they don't have any
So , what you are saying is that only God and priests get to make the rules , eh? There have been "rules", "morality" and "laws" before organized religion and without religion. And if there is no God ( as I suspect) your rules come from nowhere.
Posted by: sux123 | March 1, 2010 5:25 PM
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On Point 2:Projecting Anyone's religion or discriminating or Coerced against any Military/Militia Man or Woman's (Spiritual) belief must meet the "NO ASK NO TELL" or is it "No Tell No Ask" requirement before the Gay Requirement! But with a twist.
WE Salute All Peacenicks!
Posted by: oldsong1 | March 1, 2010 5:15 PM
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Jayyoung1: Say What?
You sound new. Can you pleaza tell us where you have posted onwapo so I can compare me light with your light? then maybe i can be more clear; just for you. ya?
Posted by: oldsong1 | March 1, 2010 5:09 PM
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LEEH1: You mentioned the Word "COMMANDMENT"
I don't know if your aware of this; But not long ago (latter 2009 Early Jan) in NORTH CAROLINA (John Edwards's turf) there's a JUDICIAL-WATCH or an ACLU ProBono-case involving that States very Constitution which Discriminates against SECULARs, NONDEISTS, NONTHEISTS... running for an Office thus requiring that ONLY (Abrahamic) GOD? BELIEVERS can hold their Public Office Monopoly after "Swearing" against their Bible or some such similar [true] story.
Please, I'm too tired to look for the articles. Knock Yourself out.
The Election is Coming The Election is coming the Election is Coming.. Not GOD!
Posted by: oldsong1 | March 1, 2010 5:02 PM
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One assumes that non-profits are there for the benefit of the recipients of the cause not as profit makers for the founders of these groups.
Many non-profits also have large holdings in stocks and other securities giving evidence that these groups are also used not to assist people or causes but are investment vehicles that are free from federal taxes on dividends, interest and capital gains. This income then is taken by the group founders and directors as salaries and bonuses.
Posted by: YEAL9 | March 1, 2010 4:43 PM
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How interesting. The writer uses the phrases "no child should" and "no service members should", but where on earth do these people get these rules of what should be done and what should not be done?
Who says "no child should" if there is no ultimate authority giving out the rules. These people don't speak for secularists, since secularists have no common credo or agreed set of beliefs.
As such, they can't judge others who don't follow their rules, since they don't have any.
You may not agree with the "shalt nots" of the Ten Commandments, but if "Do what thy wilt" is the only commandment you agree to, then you can't judge or condemn someone who practices it.
By what authority does a secularist judge someone else? Maybe they should; maybe they shouldn't. Who knows where their authority comes from, They certainly can't quote it.
Posted by: LeeH1 | March 1, 2010 4:35 PM
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oldsong1... Your posts are nearly indecipherable, and I'm not reading them anymore. Is that how you talk?
Posted by: jayyoung1 | March 1, 2010 4:28 PM
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I am so pleased that we finally have a President who can acknowledge the existence of the non-theistic community and treat it with the respect it deserves. Progress is slow but this IS progress.
Posted by: LorettaHaskell | March 1, 2010 3:56 PM
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What is so obvious here is that the REAL mean and hate filled people are Hannity and his fellow pundits.
Posted by: lufrank1 | March 1, 2010 3:39 PM
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Interesting; Yes, "SECULAR-DAY" (non Theo) of FEB.26th.2010 and exactly 2-weeks from CHARLES DARWIN'S Birth-Day (Bless Him); that "IT" shall always be remembered as a day when the U.S.A. Faith-Based Council (began during the CLINTON Administration of 1990's) had finally opened the-peoples doors to the "NON-THEISTS"
Yet there is another moment in time that All Non-Theists, Secularists, Agnostics, et al should be Proud about and mindful of and also to be recorded in their Calendars (Gregorian or not) AND it is the Day when
MITT ROMNEY, during his Presidential Run against Brother OBAMA, Sister Clinton , Big Mouth Huckabee and others who said (about Non-Theoists)
"...Guess they (non Believer of Christianity et al) believe in something Bigger than they are.." or selves. Similarly blurted.
Note: The Reason why Obama met with the VATICAN king is because they have so much money, next to or equal to the the Largest Corporation on [THIS] Earth. I'm Sure Catholic Money stowed/Hidden away in "Off-Shore-Banks" can have good or better use in these no=so-Good ole/new U.S. of A. They Own Bank Of America and have biggest Investments in Nuklear Power Plants all over the World.?
On Point 1: Children are our Prophets, but without the Profit motive. Children, a/k/a Posterity is who We LIVE for and must Die For. No God or its about "IT"!
On Point 2:Projecting Anyone's religion or discriminating against a Military/Militia Man/Wom (Spiritual) belief must meet the "NO ASK NO TELL" or is it "No Ask No Tell" requirement before the Gay Requirement! But with a twist.
On Point 3: The White House Faith Based "Executive Order Creation" should be un-created. Faith based Business (especially when it comes to FOREIGN RELATIONs) is the and should forever be in the Domain of the United Nations. Not another "NGO" in Washington's House!
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Posted by: oldsong1 | March 1, 2010 3:39 PM
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I suggest that we do not respond or engage in the discussion about whoever's salary/etc. They are just distractions from the substance of the discussion, which is that the Coalition had a meeting with the Administration. Let's not lose sight of that. I see the postings on compensation/etc nothing more than "If you can't debate the message, attack the messenger." Let's not let it fester.
Posted by: AJJJ | March 1, 2010 1:33 PM
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I recently wrote about this very topic in an artical titled: Analysis of the Secular Coalition of America White House Meeting -
Please check it out. And if you are a member of the greater secular community, check on my current blog on the topic:
Posted by: dangeroustalk | March 1, 2010 12:44 PM
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IN "gods" WE TRUST"
Is Paying PEDOPHILE Reparation/Damages To It's Congregants/Customers/Victims, Doing Gods Work?
How much Insurance premiums, against Pedophilia or "Acts-Against-Humanity" and or Other Claims (Protections by Secularist Business, not religious) do the CHURCH's Pay in order to Expose themselves in the Public Domain, less Fringe?
No No No, ALL of Earths Currency's should read IN "IT" WE TRUST.
Thanks SECULARISTS, Thanks ATHEISTS and Thank All whom Believe and Worship HOPE. (Hope arose from History and "IT" made/makes our Future Possible; not my-god.).
Note: CHURCH business should die; but not "IT", a replacement for gods mentality. Imagine the Possibilities and the REVEALations when the world goes Apocalyptic. (Forwards is "IT"s Law/Command not backwards via My gods Tautology).
Posted by: oldsong1 | March 1, 2010 12:26 PM
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Large USA tax exempt/non-profit groups
The Democratic Party
The Republican Party
Advocacy Groups for Human Rights and Civil Liberties
Americans United for Separation of Church and State
Amnesty International
Anti-Defamation League
Association on American Indian Affairs
B'nai B'rith International
Children's Defense Fund
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
The Carter Center
Center for Constitutional Rights
Committee for Missing Children
Doctors of the World
Human Rights Watch
Catholic Charities
Catholic Relief Services
Christian Appalachia Project
Christian Relief Services
Coalition for the Homeless
Lutheran World Relief
Feeding the Hungry
Check their IRS Form 990 to see what kind of salaries they pay. Some of these groups may be exempt from filing which is not what we need in a free country where non-profit group's transactions should be published and transparent.
Posted by: YEAL9 | March 1, 2010 12:18 PM
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The events that Herb Silverman referred to were just terrific. Many, many people worked very hard to bring about this quintessentially American event: citizens seeking redress from our government and equal access to be able to affect public policy. Silverman himself prepared for this event for literally decades and would richly deserve a salary if he got one (he doesn't). Those of us who do get salaries get them from our members, not from taxpayers--and they are modest at best. It amazes me that anyone, from Sean Hannity to Pat Robertson, actually believes that American citizenship and rights should be the exclusive domain of people who accept the ideas of Iron Age goatherds as superior, ethically or otherwise. American Atheists is proud to have been a part of this event and to support the Secualr Coalition for America. Regards to all, Ed Buckner, President, American Atheists.
Posted by: EdBuckner | March 1, 2010 12:14 PM
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Salaries for the Secular Coalition of America as listed on their 2008 IRS Form 990 as $150,695 but the only specific salary noted is for Ron Miller, acting director, who is paid $43,925. So where does the other $106,770 go?
Then there is the Selcular Coalition's Education Fund started in 2008. What salaries and perks are paid from this fund?
Again, what is this group doing that the ACLU is not doing?
Posted by: YEAL9 | March 1, 2010 12:07 PM
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Mr. Silverman' salary - or lack of one - is really beside the point. If those who are arguing salary are trying to say that he sees this as simply a "cash cow" and is not really interested in the goals of his group, that is another matter, and one to be proven. Otherwise, unless they are members of the organization who have a vested interest, their complaints concerning salary should be dismissed - perhaps regarded as "sour grapes?"
I would regard myself as a "Christian Secularist," in regard to politics. I believe that the tying together of church and state is harmful to both. The only problem I would have with the position of Mr. Silverman's group is in regard to proselytizing - freedom of religion and freedom of speech should be respected, regardless of the situation. These are precious freedoms. It is the willingness to share our thinking that makes us strong. The sharing of one's religious or non-religious beliefs serves to either strengthen o challenge one's beliefs, leading to a deeper and more satisfying life. Coercion is another matter,as would proselytising by one's commanders.
As regards faith-based organizations, their social service branches should not use federal funds for proselytizing (nor should they, as an ethical matter, connect their social work with proselytzing - most respected chuch-based organizations are careful in this regard).
Posted by: garoth | March 1, 2010 12:00 PM
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Herb Silverman has done nothing to deserve the diatribe exhibited in some of the responses to his account of his visit to
washington, but I am sure he has faced it many times before.
What Silverman, the Secular Coalition and I want most is to be spared having our government (in whatever form) to favor religion over non-religion or to give the appearance of such. We want this because we have looked at history and seen what happens to religious minorities when religious majorities get the power and begin to impose their theocracy. We strive to preserve the separation of church and state, that is all. We do not wish to deny their religion to anyone.
Posted by: fhay26 | March 1, 2010 11:55 AM
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From info and Belief, your old moniker was "Christian Concerned Now Liberated" NO?
And Please since you are so good at yahooooooing or gooooooggggling or jackhammering for 'Financial Info", as if be Dirt; then please dig-up and name names Of All those "Catholic" Christian Pedophiles, plus their victims, who received "Tax-Deductible Tithes-Income" from the Masses directly or indirectly and show some meaningful info on what the Pedophile Priests income was.
YEAL9, if you can help me; please be a Blog-Friend not a Blog-ganster or Blog-Bully and let us know How-Much money ALL the Moderators have claimed; both as Non-Prophet and Non-Profits. Ooops for Self and or Enrichment Purposes.
PS: You still did not show us how much money each and everyone or some them major players embedded within Obama's Faith-Based Community hokus-pokus, willy-nilly, Pow-Wowilly front or ripoff Council are making off Us blindsided unsuspecting [SECULAR] Tax-Payers..
Maybe the Mr. SECULARwitz and Mr. ATHEISTvitz should stop paying Uncle/Aunt-Mc-SAM their hard earned money, and let the Non-Atheists and Non Secularist do the Burden, not honor, to pay back gods-tithes via smiling forked-tongued actors with self-dealing [HIDDEN/SECRET] budgets, includes Political disguised godly War Chests, whom roam and toll, while brownnosing or rubbing each other in OUR Holy-Capital, not exclusively their Gods Dominion or Turf, in holy or non-holy attire with SATANic smiles and intentions, aye?
In America, No CHURCH should be a Tax-Exempt" CORPORATION. Churches are not "Gods Chosen" entity's! That's wishful thinking. Even the "Robber Baron's are crying all the way to the bank while CHURCH's are Laughing. Aye?
Posted by: oldsong1 | March 1, 2010 11:54 AM
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Much speculation here about salaries and government grants. First, Mr. Silverman receives no salary from the Secular Coalition for America. He is a board officer, not a staff member. He pays to serve - meaning that he covers all of his own expenses to board meetings and events such as the White House visit. He is one of several individuals who have made personal sacrifices to promote cooperation within the secular community. Since 2005 the Coalition has assembled a small staff receiving typical non-profit (below market) salaries to do administrative and other work. Maintaining this infrastructure is a constant financial challenge; the Coalition receives no funding through the Faith-Based Initiative or any other government program. It is supported entirely by donations from supporters and its member organizations - that is, the community it serves. Unlike gifts to churches, those donations do not qualify for a tax deduction, thus placing no burden on the U.S. taxpayer to make up lost revenues.
It is precisely that last point that ties into the Coalition's concern about government funding of faith groups. Religious ministries that benefit from government grants to provide (sometimes dubious) social services qualify for those grants only because they are religious; that is, they are singled out by the government to receive a special privilege not afforded to secular non-profits - even secular non-profits specializing in the social services being funded. There is little or no government oversight to ensure the quality of these programs, and some recipient organizations openly practice religious discrimination in hiring and service provision. Yet the American taxpayer is billed to support these faith groups chosen not by each individual citizen according to her/his beliefs and preferences, but by government agencies. The Coalition opposes this practice not only on behalf of secular Americans, but because it is a threat to religious liberty for ALL Americans, regardless of worldview.
Posted by: maryellensikes | March 1, 2010 11:35 AM
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I am encouraged by the White House allowing the meeting with the Secular Coalition. Maybe there is hope for those of us who yearn for separation of church and state. Separation of church and state is necessary if we are to be truly free. Thank you Dr. Silverman. Whatever your salary is, it is worth it to have such a courageous and articulate leader of this progressive and long overdue movement.
Posted by: fhay18 | March 1, 2010 11:26 AM
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Herb Silverman makes not one penny in salary or any other type of compensation for serving as President of the Secular Coalition for America.
Neither do the members of the Board of Directors of the Secular Coalition for serving in that role. Some members of that board, but not Herb Silverman, lead national organizations. Those individuals are paid by their employers -- not by Secular Coalition for America. I can attest that Herb Silverman does huge amounts of work as a positive voice for secularism -- but we pay him zero dollars to do so. Sean Faircloth, Executive Director, Secular Coalition for America
Posted by: seanfaircloth | March 1, 2010 11:17 AM
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Herb Silverman says:
"The Secular Coalition for America includes 10 national nontheistic member organizations, and its mission has two goals: to increase the visibility of, and respect for, nontheistic viewpoints in the United States; and to protect and strengthen the secular character of our government as the best guarantee of freedom for all."
As for the first goal, the atheists-er- "nontheists" gained visibility but probably not much respect as a result of stunts like this attacking Christmas:
As for the second goal, the secular character of our government is well protected through our founding documents.
Activist atheists seem perpetually disturbed by *any* hint of religious expression within their view.
Sometimes they remind of the stereotypical old man shaking his fist and yelling "you kids get off my lawn!"
Posted by: spamsux1 | March 1, 2010 10:57 AM
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Bill Donohue calling others "zealots" while stating victims of sexual abuse are Protestant gold-diggers, and telling us why fondling children is not a big deal.
Posted by: coloradodog | March 1, 2010 8:59 AM
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Why Herb Silverman writes so much? More donations,the higher his salary? ( Maybe the ACLU does a better job of keeping the USA secular?)
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Posted by: YEAL9 | March 1, 2010 8:13 AM
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Let's hope those mentioned by Yeal9 (CCNl) use what they earn in ways more constructive than Fr. McGrath, who, btw., was convicted. After this, perhaps, we can return to the topic.
Wealthy priest 'gave thousands to paedophile to help him groom girl'
An Irish priest lavished thousands of pounds on a predatory paedophile to allow him to groom an 11-year-old girl for sex, Liverpool Crown Court was told yesterday.
Father Jeremiah McGrath, 62, of Roselea, Co Fermanagh, was a Roman Catholic priest, but a lucrative shares portfolio gave him independent means. He was also a successful gambler and had befriended William Adams, 38, a convicted paedophile, while he was in his teens. The priest visited him in prison in Ireland while he served a 12-year sentence for raping an eight-year-old girl.
On his release Adams went to Liverpool, where he used the priest's money to target a child and buy her gifts. They included a three-week holiday in Blackpool, during which he posed as her father, shared a bedroom with her and repeatedly raped her.
Andrew Menary, QC, for the prosecution, suggested to the jury that the relationship between the priest and paedophile was a physical one. It is alleged that Father McGrath not only knew the nature of Adam's abusive relationship with the child but abused her himself on one occasion.
Mr Menary told the jury: "Adams worked his way into this girl's affections. He gave her time, attention and gifts. He gave her money and holidays, all things this little girl had never experienced. He bought her mobile telephones, paid for hairstyling, let her bunk off school and generally encouraged her to believe he was her friend and that he loved her.
"It appears at this stage that Adams was unemployed, and documents found in his flat showed he had applied for state benefits. You may be wondering where the money came from to finance these gifts and trips. We allege that most, if not all the money, came from Jeremiah McGrath. Although he was a priest, he is a man with substantial means. It also seems Father McGrath is a heavy but successful gambler."
Mr Menary said that Father McGrath regularly sent significant sums of money to Adams, enabling him to provide these treats for the girl and her family when he knew that he must have been sexually abusing the child. Mr Menary said: "It seems Jeremiah McGrath would indulge all of William Adams's desires, including funding his interest in young girls in order to keep Adams happy."
Father McGrath denies three counts of facilitating the commission of a child sex offence of one of sexual assault. Adams, latterly of Bootle, Merseyside, has admitted raping the child.
Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 1, 2010 1:26 AM
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The jury was told that a total of £23,500 was paid by Father McGrath into accounts to which Adams had access. Mr Menary told the court that Adams continued to rape the girl after they returned from Blackpool to Merseyside. He would regularly visit Father McGrath in Co Fermanagh.
When Father McGrath visited Adams, they were said to have "spent money like it was going out of fashion" at a rate of £1,000 a day. The bulk of the gifts and attention went on the girl, Mr Menary said.
The charge of sexual assault relates to an occasion in November 2005, when Father McGrath is alleged to have touched the child while in a car. Mr Menary also claimed that Father McGrath supported Adams in his use of false names and in playing down his conviction when the child's family grew suspicious.
Father McGrath showed no obvious reaction when Mr Menary claimed that there was evidence of a sexual relationship between the two men. In police interviews, McGrath denied any impropriety in relation to the girl but accepted that there were elements of his relationship with Adams of which the Catholic Church would not approve.
The jury later watched a lengthy recorded interview in which the girl described how Adams regularly abused her.
The trial continues.
Posted by: FarnazMansouri | March 1, 2010 1:25 AM
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Eboo Patel pays himself ~ $100,000/yr from his "non-profit" and has over $2 million in investments held by his "non-profit" Interfaith Youth Core. Non-profits do not pay taxes on dividends, interest or capital gains.
Maybe David Waters will tell us how much he makes?
David Saperstein the rabbi or the billionaire?
One wonders if Eboo Patel and Herb Silverman get Faith and Community Intiative grant money from the USA taxpayers?
Posted by: YEAL9 | March 1, 2010 1:07 AM
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Excellent point! Secularists are not necessarily atheists! Reactionary religious leaders conflate the terms regularly as a way to keep any members -- who are reluctant to tear down the wall -- on the reservation. "Oh, you're not one them secularists are you?"
Posted by: cornbread_r2 | February 28, 2010 11:58 PM
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Thanks for the info. and all of your good work.
One concern: There are many, many believers who are strict separationists: believing that lobbying by religious institutions violates our commitment to separation of church and state, want an end to nonprofit status for religious institutions, the abolition of conscience clauses, etc.
It would be conducive to your efforts (and mine) to distinguish secularism from belief.
Posted by: FarnazMansouri | February 28, 2010 9:24 PM
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All of the previous comments suggest that their writers were in a very bad mood. Otherwise, how can you account for the crabbiness, fiduciary envy, and sour grapes. None of the comments had anything to do with the substance of the meeting and the issues brought up. As a lawyer might say, the comments were immaterial and irrelevant.
Posted by: raymondw1 | February 28, 2010 8:22 PM
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Thankfully, someone speaking up against those who want to run our country with their imaginary friends.
Posted by: Anglo_Rider | February 28, 2010 8:01 PM
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or [EXPOSES] those trying to hijack or infiltrate our Federal System of Government in order to teach Religion in our Public Schools, etc...
Posted by: oldsong1 | February 28, 2010 7:26 PM
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OH. Forgot. "SECULAR"anity in America is a Recognized , full blown Religion, with lots of Federally Protect Perks. Profits and for Prophets too.
Posted by: oldsong1 | February 28, 2010 6:16 PM
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So Herb's for Profit instead of Prophet.! You should post what Dubois or Eboo Patel Makes or David Saperstein or David Waters etc..
Mr. Herb Silverman is Under Paid, and yes, Over Worked (probably because He's under staffed). He should go into the 200+K bracket. And He does write to Us a lot, here and elsewhere on the cheap, or rather, sort of, on the free. WE learned alot from Him [GURU].
So, he represents "Catholic Basher's" and other questionable Illuminati's or those trying to hijack or infiltrate our Federal System of Government in order to teach Religion in our Public Schools, etc... So like a Police-Man, Oopps, Press-Man, What is wrong with bashing IRISH Pedophile Priests/Fathers? Are You Irish.
Reminder genius: All Atheists have Religion; IT's called HOPE. This is the Cognizance mindfulness that propels all of Us into the Future, you to YEAL9, or makes such worth experiencing for. And this HOPE Atheist religion is about worshiping the Past, a/k/a HISTORY where , likes the BIG BANG or BIG FLASH etc.. is everyone's Judge, jury and Witness and everybody's Business.
So, YEAL9, WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET? you got's Religion, weather yo all like IT or not; and it's called "HOPE" just like Ms Jacoby, Herb, me etc.. do. Something to contemplate on and or anticipate about. Now that's Prophetic's aye?
PS: Herb loves IT and he'll admit IT!
Posted by: oldsong1 | February 28, 2010 6:14 PM
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Secular Coalition of America- Mission Statement from their IRS Form 990
"The mission of the Secular Coalition of America is to increase the visibility and respectability of nontheistic viewpoints in the United States, and to protect and strengthen the secular character of our government as the best guarantee of freedom for all."
Mr. Silverman is listed as the president of this non-profit. He does not list his salary which is strange. Salaries and compensation from Form 990 for 2008 are listed as $150,695. One director's salary is listed at $43,925 so one assumes Mr. Silverman's salary per year is about $106,000/year. Not a bad salary for a non-profit!!!
Contributions, gifts and grants of the SCOA for 2008 amounted to $310,034. It is assumed that no Faith and Community Initiative grant money was part of the $310,034 or was it?
Mr. Silverman also has established an education fund but no financials are available.
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You can tell a lot about a person from their body. And I don't just mean how many hours they spend at the gym, or how easy it is for them to sweet-talk their way out of speeding tickets. For the past several decades researchers have been studying the ways in which the body reveals properties of the mind. An important subset of this work has taken this idea a step further: do the ways our bodies relate to one another tell us about the ways in which our minds relate to one another? Consider behavioral mimicry. Many studies have found that we quite readily mimic the nonverbal behavior of those with whom we interact. Furthermore, the degree to which we mimic others is predicted by both our personality traits as well as our relationship to those around us. In short, the more empathetic we are, the more we mimic, and the more we like the people we're interacting with, the more we mimic. The relationship between our bodies reveals something about the relationship between our minds.
The bulk of this research has made use of clever experimental manipulations involving research assistant actors. The actor crosses his legs and then waits to see if the participant crosses his legs, too. If so, we've found mimicry, and can now compare the presence of mimicry with self-reports of, say, liking and interpersonal closeness to see if there is a relationship. More naturalistic evidence for this phenomenon has been much harder to come by. That is, to what extent do we see this kind of nonverbal back and forth in the real world and to what extent does it reveal the same properties of minds that seem to hold true in the lab?
A recent study conducted by Ivan Norscia and Elisabetta Palagi and published in the journal PLoSONE has found such evidence in the unlikeliest of places: yawns. More specifically, yawn contagion, or that annoyingly inevitable phenomenon that follows seeing, hearing (and even reading) about another yawn. You've certainly experienced this, but perhaps you have not considered what it might reveal to others (beyond a lack of sleep or your interest level in their conversation). Past work has demonstrated that, similar to behavioral mimicry, contagious yawners tend to be higher in dispositional empathy. That is, they tend to be the type of people who are better, and more interested in, understanding other people's internal states. Not only that, but contagious yawning seems to emerge in children at the same time that they develop the cognitive capacities involved in empathizing with others. And children who lack this capacity, such as in autism, also show deficits in their ability to catch others' yawns. In short, the link between yawning and empathizing appears strong.
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From: Wall, Kevin (Kevin.Wallqwest.com)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 11:54:04 CDT
Dennis Groves writes...
> This is copyrighted material we can not use it. That said, I feel
> it is an important part of the education process to define terms for
> those who do not yet speak the language - the language in this case is
> security.
I agree that this is important, esp for newbies. The only alternative
is to explain the term in the context where it is being used which could
lead to inconsistent definitions.
> What I had in mind was this, that anytime a "security word" appears in
> documents that we produce as a part of this project that a
> person can click on that "security word" and the definition will pop
> up in a little window much the way that the bio's do now.
> Any thoughts from the group?
I have two thoughts on this. One option is that we do our own glossary.
I think that's the best long term approach, but not the best short term
one--simply because of the time that it takes.
The other option is that we (with permission, of course) just link to
terms in someone else's online glossary. I find all of the following
useful to varying degrees:
NSA Glossary
The Internet Society's Internet Security Glossary
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2828.txt (unfortunately not
searchable as-is, but the copyright is pretty
Lynn Wheeler's Taxonomy and Glossary
SetSolutions Security Glossary of Terms
Mitre's Security Glossary
Government of Newfoundland and Labrador's (?)
"Complete Security Glossary"
(also not really searchable, as-is, unless you count
using Ctrl-F from your browser window ;-)
If we use the first option (constructing own glossary rather than
linking to others--and not necessarilly the same one for every term),
then I think the link should be to the exact term with a larger
glossary page. This larger glossary page should have navigation links
and a search for terms. This has the advantage that subsequent checks
ought to find the page in the browser cache. The alternative would be
to dynamically generate a small pop-up window with just that single term.
Either way, there should be links between terms.
Also, to distinguish glossary terms from other links, I'd suggest putting
them in italics or some different color than the rest of the text so that
it is evident that these a glossary terms.
Perhaps if we define a glossary, we should use XML (anyone know of a
DTS or schema for a glossary / dictionary?). That would give a lot of
flexibility, including formating different ways with XSLTs.
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For this manicure, I used Revlon "Cloud" as a base color, let dry, then applied two strips of nail tape, and applied Sephora by OPI "What a Broad" over the top. "What a Broad" is not as grape colored as it seems in the picture, in real life it has a bit more of a cool reddish undertone. (I also just realized I need to do a bit more cleanup around my nails. LOL)
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LES UNGER: First, thank you very much for, at this hour, coming in and visiting.
TAMMIE GREEN: It is my pleasure.
LES UNGER: It was a tough day, I assume.
TAMMIE GREEN: It was a long day. I felt like I was into the flow after 9 holes and with the rain delay, it was tough getting back into the flow after we went back out. But, you know, there are a lot of players out there that had to do it, so I am just one of many.
LES UNGER: Craig, you want birdies and stuff? .
CRAIG SMITH: Please. Give me the 30-foot putts you made.
TAMMIE GREEN: Number 4, I hit a 9-iron just above the hole, about 20 feet, made it. I came right back with a bogey on number 5. You want to hear all about that? You don't? On No. 9, I hit a wedge to about 20 feet as well, made that. Number 12, my deer hole, 3-putted, and just missed probably a foot-and-a-half putt. I think about that time, the skies were kind of getting a little dark and my eyes, I had trouble focusing a little bit and I was just kind of straining to see and lipped the putt out. 14, I bogeyed, hit a good iron shot in there. It just didn't take on the green. I felt like it was a good shot. I went behind the green with a tough up-and-down. I hit the hole on a chip, but I think it gained speed once it did hit the hole and missed, I guess, about an 8-footer. 17, I got one back, hit a sand wedge to about 13 feet.
Q. Where were you when the delay happened?
TAMMIE GREEN: We were in the fairway on number 10. Felt like I had a really good up-and-down on 10. I was in the rough and hit it in the bunker and knocked in probably a 25 footer to save par.
Q. For those of us who have been stuck in here most of the day, what was it like out there? Was it stormy, just electicity in the air?
TAMMIE GREEN: When we had the rain delay?
Q. Yeah, during --
TAMMIE GREEN: You know, we saw almost two storms that were all around us and the one that looked real severe, wasn't the one that they were worried about. It was coming over the mountain and it was starting to get greyer and greyer, but we didn't see much lightning. They pulled us off in time. Then when we went back, the wind was coming in in a different direction, the opposite direction, and was a little cooler and just the sky was dark.
Q. Did the course change dramatically after the storm?
TAMMIE GREEN: I don't think a whole lot. It was just -- no. Well, yeah, I guess it did. Come to think of it, the more I think about it, we were into the wind coming -- when we turned around on 15, made it a little bit of a longer golf course. I think with the two shots I hit on 17, I probably would have gotten there yesterday; today I was short. Just played a little bit longer. I hit driver on 18 instead of 3-wood.
Q. I don't know if it rained a lot, but did you notice if you got, you know, less roll off your bounces --
TAMMIE GREEN: The speeds of the putts were affected a little bit. I left a few short. It was just too tough to get it to the hole. You never know. When you get just a light rain, sometimes they speed up, but in this case, they slowed down.
LES UNGER: I think your group was the last group to finish or was there one after?
CRAIG SMITH: There can be one more.
LES UNGER: Just taking the opposite side, you are very fortunate because you would be getting up early in the morning.
TAMMIE GREEN: I do feel fortunate. After a long day and then having to get up early and go back out, that is a difficult thing to do.
Q. So the amount of rain that fell was not that much, just a light rain?
TAMMIE GREEN: Just a light rain.
Q. Would you have thought that 2-under would be tied for the clubhouse lead at this point? With a gang of thousands?
TAMMIE GREEN: Not really. But I know that any time you are around par, you are close to leading the U.S. Open.
LES UNGER: Any other general words of wisdom for us.
TAMMIE GREEN: At this hour, no. After this day, maybe if I had a beer or something, I might be able to philosophize.
Q. Obviously you birdied 17. Is that a hole where you walk away with a par there; you feel like you have given up a shot? Do you feel like you need a birdie there to --
TAMMIE GREEN: I think it is one of the most -- well, it is one of the two easiest birdie holes out there - ones that you would expect to get birdie on, but, of course, if you walk away with par on any of these golf holes out here you don't feel slighted.
Q. After a rain delay like that and darkness closing in, is there a tendency to kind of pick up the pace of play or do you keep your same routine and just play at your own pace?
TAMMIE GREEN: I try to play at my own pace, but the pace out there today was awfully slow and it was tough to get in a rhythm and even after the rain delay, we waited a lot, so...
Q. What is the reason for that?
TAMMIE GREEN: This is a larger field than we usually have on our Tour, but I think the conditions of the greens, the undulations and everything; if you miss it in the wrong spots, you take a little more time to hit it, and you have some tough shots.
Q. Does it also have to do with inexperienced players?
TAMMIE GREEN: It could have, but I haven't -- I don't know if that is the cause of it or not. The rough's tough and if you hit in the rough, you have a tough shot. I mean, you are going to put yourself in a position that you really don't want to be in. The greens demand such a good touch that it takes time to figure that out, where you want to place the ball. Once it lands, you might have to hit it 10 or 12 feet on the upper side of the hill so it feeds back down so -- I think, just the conditions of the greens.
Q. Now that the weekend is here, do you take a little bit of different approach for Saturday?
TAMMIE GREEN: No, I am still going out and respecting this golf course and trying to hit good shots. Really, that is all you can do in a U.S. Open; hope that your score is the lowest at the end of Sunday.
Q. Everybody says that, but when you say it, you say it with conviction. I mean, you really seem like somebody who knows there is a long way to go, you are just plugging away. Others may lose their heads, but you are not going to.
TAMMIE GREEN: Well, I hope not. Well, thank you.
Q. Do you feel that way too? Do you feel like you got more than enough experience to hold yourself in check?
TAMMIE GREEN: Well, I hope so. I know how a U.S. Open can go and it is tougher and tougher on Saturday and Sunday and the greens will speed up. The field will start to position and you just have to play your game and hope that you shoot a low score. I mean, I can't worry about what the other players are doing. I know if I see somebody burning it up, I am thinking, well, then maybe you are going to have to push a little harder, take a few more chances be a little bit more aggressive, but until that happens, you never know when your putter is going to get on fire.
Q. Isn't it also more pronounced, I mean, you have got 7 people sitting there 2-under right now and one person that is a shot ahead. Anyway, you get a lot of people right there, so that is even more important then to just play your game forget about all those other people; right?
TAMMIE GREEN: Well, I guess that is true. Like I say, I am just going out and try to hit good shots tomorrow and position myself for Sunday. And you know, everybody else has got their own philosophy on how they are going to attack the golf course. I know what mine is and hopefully it is going to be the right one.
Q. Following up on that, Tammie, there is a point now, I guess where it is you versus the golf course. When does it become in an Open or any tournament where, let us say, if there is two other people tied with you or something, when does it become you versus the other golfer then, or does it, for you?
TAMMIE GREEN: Well, I suppose you can let it get that way 'til matchplay coming down maybe the last 5, 6 holes if you are going head-to-head with someone. But with a golf course like this, if you take your mind off the golf course and what you are doing and what you should be concentrating on, then you can be just blown out of the water, just -- it is -- it is you versus the golf course.
Q. Didn't it get to be sort of matchplay head-to-head for you --
LES UNGER: Last year a little bit?
TAMMIE GREEN: A little bit. I had to hit some pretty good shots too, I mean, I couldn't -- you have got to hit the shots and sure, it was matchplay. I really believed I had her on the last hole, but you know, I played the best I could. I hit the shots that I had to at the time and you still have to play the golf course.
Q. Do you think that it rained enough and since it is not supposed to get hot and dry tomorrow that you might come back tomorrow and be able to go more for the flags and the greens might be a little softer?
TAMMIE GREEN: There is a couple of holes out there that the greens are very soft and then there is a couple of others that are hard as rocks, so we are paying attention -- my caddy and I are paying attention to which greens are receptive and which ones aren't and I would imagine the ones that were soft today will be soft tomorrow and I will tell you, after the rain delay I went out on 14, I hit a 9-iron in there from the middle of the fairway and hit it probably 7 yards short of the pin; it took one big hop and was over the green and I just didn't understand that. I thought I did everything right and ended up making bogey, so there are several of them out there that are hard and some are soft and will back up. I think the ones, like I said, the ones that are soft are going to be soft tomorrow.
LES UNGER: Is that good? Thanks.
TAMMIE GREEN: Thanks, everyone.
Q. Good luck.
TAMMIE GREEN: Thank you.
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"A delicious, moist, blackberry and blueberry cobbler. This soft pastry dessert is lightly sweet with fresh berries and white chocolate morsels. Pair up with vanilla ice cream to create the perfect dessert."
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1 (6 ounce) container fresh blueberries
1 (6 ounce) container fresh blackberries
1/2 cup orange juice
3 tablespoons white sugar
1 cup all-purpose flour
1 1/2 tablespoons baking powder
1 cup white sugar
1/2 cup butter, melted
1 egg
1 1/2 tablespoons vanilla extract
1/2 cup miniature white chocolate chips (optional)
1/2 cup brown sugar (optional)
This was really good! We went blackberry picking and I needed to use them up along with some blueberries that had been sitting in the fridge, so I tried it out. Quick and easy to make and the kids had fun with it too. We didn't use the chocolate chips and it came out sweet and crunchy on top :)
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This is a very good cobbler. The crust is excellent, sweet and crunchy on top and moist on the bottom. Its very similar to shortbread, not the "biscuit- like" crust. This is much better. I didn't make any changes except soaked berries a bit longer.
Only one review for this recipe? Goodness, it was delicious!! Even my cobbler-hating daughter tried it and liked it.... that says a lot! The white chocolate chip, brown sugar topping was great. This was a winner in our household.
DH loved it and declared it one of the best ever. Me, not so much. I thought it was way sweet and I didn't add the choc chips or brown sugar. If the blackberries had been more sour it might not have been so bad. The bottom was gooey and unappealing too. Oh well. I'll probably make it again to keep my sweetie happy.
This was delicious! The topping was a little fiddly, but SO worth it! We loved it. :)
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This is a Vintage design Harmony Ball which makes an absolutely beautiful chime-like sound each time it is moved.
925 sterling Silver harmony ball for pregnant woman~!Shake it, and it will make a nice sound. these pendants were originally designed
Cage size:20mm in diameter
Ball inside size:18mm in diameter
Bracelet size:72mm in diameter
The Mexican Bola/Harmony ball is a pendant with a chime ball inside used by pregnant ladies. It has been used for generations by Mexican ladies who found that the soothing sound of the chime ball against the tummy calmed and soothed their babies and that is how the term 'Mexican Bola' was adopted. It has now become extremely popular and fashionable as more and more mothers get to experience the benefits of the Mexican Bola.
The Mexican Bola is a wonderful keepsake as it lasts forever and can be used for all your children or passed on to the next generation. It is also a great soothing tool for a new born infant as the sound is familiar to them.
A baby starts hearing external sounds through vibrations from the mothers tummy from 18/20 weeks gestation. The bola is worn on a long string that reaches the belly button and as the mother moves it chimes.
The Mexican Bola is a stunning piece of jewellery and makes a great gift for all the people.
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Subject: | Re: [avr-gcc-list] gcc-avr/avr-libc wiki |
Date: | Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:23:08 -0500 |
David McNab wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sounds like "we'd better not have a wiki, because I can't think of anyone who's got the time to ensure it's perfect".
Maybe it "sounds like" that to you. You might want to try taking meaning from what is actually written though. I wrote:
Who will organize, scrub and correct minor errors? Who will set policy (for example, decide what is an error and what isn't?
You also wrote:
Wikipedia is full of problems - systemic bias, errors, conflicting agendas etc, but it's a heck of a lot better than having no wikipedia at all.
Wikipedia is not "full" of problems. Pages with bias are marked as such. A vigorous community continuously corrects errors. If we thought we could produce something at the level of quality of Wikipedia and with a similar assurance that it would last I would help as much as possible. But avrwiki does not look like that to me.
I'm still concerned that helping with the "golden" documentation might be an even better idea, but I don't know how feasible that is. Or, would the maintainers of the "golden" documentation abandon that in favor of the Wiki?
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I have heard and read all sorts of stories about how difficult mornings can get during the school term. With this in mind, I decided to kick the school year off by being (or trying to be) super organized. So I designed some morning routine flash cards to hang in Ashlee's room for her to remember what things need to be done. I am pleased to say she LOVES them!!! She has even asked me to make some for her night time routine. But for now, here are the morning routine cards...
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Tiered Lace Top
sale $25.00
Sheer, twinkling lace makes this tiered top just as evening-worthy as any dress. Tiers on front and back; crossover tiers on front only. Allover floral lace on front and back. Scalloped cuffs, neckline and hem. Imported.
- 24" length from shoulder to hem
- Lined body; sheer short sleeves; Empire bust
- Surplice V-neck in front only
- Shell: 93% nylon/7% spandex Lining: 100% polyester
- Hand Wash
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Tiered Lace Top
Love it
I bought this in store. Very feminine. The beading and lace is so intricate and sexy. My fiance loved it. Very flattering if you have the chest to fill it but would be more appropriate for an evening out, not just any occassion.
October 3, 2013
Did not fit like i wanted it to. A beautiful top just wasnt for me.
July 15, 2013
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