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Astrology - The language of the stars
August 19, 2010, 04:39:18 PM »
Zodiacal mythology is a good starting point to get into this subject, let's you know how old this language really is.
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The Ptolemaic zodiac: from where the sun shines
By John, on May 15th, 2010
(With permission)
Ptolemaic world view, in Andreas Cellarius Harmonia Macrocosmica.
We see here how the same dynastic power-brokers in Alexandria who created new philosophies and religions centred on Helios also created the astrological system with the Helios-centric zodiac.
We have seen how the conquests of Alexander the Great brought Hellenisation to Persia, Greco-India and Egypt, and mentioned how this divided society in Judea, which led to a series of wars and ultimately, the destruction of that nation by Hadrian.
We have seen already that the New Testament was created under Hadrian using Flavian sources.
In Greco-India, we have seen Buddhism as a product of Greco-India, the rise of monasteries and their spread along the trade routes, where we also find early synagogues.
Later and in trading posts such as Dura Europos, the earliest churches also appear.
Babylonia or Chaldea in the Hellenistic world came to be so identified with astrology that Chaldean wisdom became among Greeks and Romans the synonym of divination through the planets and stars.
Hindu astrology adopted the Hellenistic zodiac during the Seleucid period (2nd to 1st centuries BCE).
Sun dial within two sculpted lion feet, Ai-Khanoum (Alexandria on the Oxus)
The transmission of the zodiac system to Hindu astrology predated widespread awareness of the precession of the equinoxes, and the Hindu system ended up using a sidereal coordinate system (as opposed to the Tropical System followed by the Greeks), which resulted in the European and the Hindu zodiacs, even though sharing the same origin in Hellenistic astrology, gradually moving apart over two millennia that have passed since. The Sanskrit names of the signs are direct translations of the Greek names (dhanus meaning bow rather than archer, and kumbha meaning water-pitcher rather than water-carrier).
Jyotisha is the Hindu system of astrology (also known as Indian astrology, Hindu astrology, and of late, Vedic astrology). The documented history of Jyotisha begins with the interaction of Indian and Hellenistic cultures in the Indo-Greek period. The practice of Jyotisha primarily relies on the sidereal zodiac, which is different from the tropical zodiac used in Western astrology in that an ayanamsa adjustment is made for the gradual precession of the vernal equinox.
The oldest astrological treatise in Sanskrit is the Yavanajataka (Sayings of the Greeks), a versification by Sphujidhvaja in 269/270 CE of a now lost translation of a Greek treatise by Yavanesvara during the 2nd century CE under the patronage of the Western Satrap Saka king Rudradaman I. (Mc Evilley The shape of ancient thought, p385 (The Yavanajataka is the earliest surviving Sanskrit text in horoscopy, and constitute the basis of all later Indian developments in horoscopy, quoting David Pingree The Yavanajataka of Sphujidhvaja p5))
Hellenistic astrology syncretically originated from Babylonian and Egyptian astrology and horoscopic astrology first appeared in Ptolemaic Egypt. This should be seen in the wider perspective, starting with the dream and vaulting ambition of Alexander the Great to merge Greek and Persian societies, then the transmuting effect of Hellenisation within regional, cultural contexts.
The Dendera zodiac is the first known depiction of the classical zodiac of twelve signs :
Egyptian bas-relief from the ceiling of the portico of a chapel dedicated to Osiris in the Hathor temple at Dendera.
This chapel was begun in the late Ptolemaic period; the now-accepted date for the relief is 50 BCE.
On display at the Musée du Louvre, Paris.
The zodiac is a planisphere or map of the stars on a plane projection, showing the 12 constellations of the zodiacal band forming 36 decans of ten days each, and the planets. These decans are groups of first-magnitude stars, used in the ancient Egyptian calendar, which was based on lunar cycles of around 30 days and on the heliacal rising of the star Sothis (Sirius).
Champollion deciphered the names of Tiberius, Claudius, Nero and Domitian on the ceiling of Denderas temple, and placed the zodiac in the era of Roman rule over Egypt. (J. G. Honoré Greppo, Essay on the Hieroglyphic System of M. Champollion, Jun., and on the Advantages which it Offers To Sacred Criticism. Saxton & Miles, 1842.)
Ptolemy and Lysimachus are two of the three successors of Alexander the Great and became co-founders of the Ptolemaic dynasty, that ruled Egypt until Alexander Helios and Cleopatra Selene, the twin children of Mark Antony and Cleopatra, were taken as hostages to Antonia Minor.
Particularly important in the development of Western horoscopic astrology was the astrologer and astronomer Ptolemy, whose work Tetrabiblos laid the basis of the Western astrological tradition. Under the Greeks, and Ptolemy in particular, the planets, Houses, and signs of the zodiac were rationalized and their function set down in a way that has changed little to the present day.
(Derek and Julia Parker, Parkers Encyclopedia of Astrology p16, 1990)
Zodiac and months from Tetrabiblos of Ptolemaios
Manuscript from the 8th century CE. Geographia of Ptolemy; Rome, Biblioteca Apostolica Vaticana.
Helios in the centre, identified as the Christ by the cross, twelve naked female figures represent the hours, twelve clothed apostles represent the twelve months, and surrounding that the twelve zodiac signs.
In "Claudius Ptolemy a Ptolemy" I noted how:
As a member of the same family as Alexander the Alabarch and his son, the merchant Marcus, this need [for celestial navigation] is obvious. The relationship would also provide the means to gain much of his geography and the Hellenistic Babylonian data.
In short, Ptolemy was a Ptolemy and therefore, a Lysimachus.
One Lysimachus of the period is Philo: Philo Judaeus, Philo Judaeus of Alexandria, Yedidia and Philo the Jew. He is described commonly as a Hellenistic Jewish philosopher, in general ignorance of what and who is a Lysimachus. As his philosophy containing the first christology is syncretic, so here we see synagogues of the period begin to adopt the Helios zodiac.
Tzippori, or Sepphoris, is located in the central Galilee and after the death of Herod in 4 CE, the inhabitants revolted against Roman rule. Not surprisingly, the city was eventually captured and destroyed. Following this, Herod Antipas, ruler of the Galilee region, set about restoring Tzippori. He spared no expense on restoring and beautifying the city, prompting the Jewish historian Josephus to later call it the glory of the entire Galilee.
The mosaic floor of the ancient synagogue was rediscovered in 1993. There is a large Zodiac with the names of the months written in Hebrew. Helios sits in the middle, in his sun chariot.
Four steeds pull the chariot bearing the sun god Helios
Sepphoris synagogue
Rabbi Yehudah HaNasi moved to the city with the Sanhedrin, making it the seat of Jewish religious authority. Rabbi Yehudah completed the codification of the Oral Law into the Mishnah in Tzippori in about the year 200CE and the scholars living in the city participated in the writing of the Jerusalem Talmud.
The Beit Alfa Synagogue is an ancient Byzantine-era synagogue located in Heftziba, at the foot of Mount Gilboa in northern Israel. It was constructed in the 6th century CE and is famous for its mosaic floor which was uncovered in 1928.
Two inscriptions were found on the entryway floor. The Greek inscription is in memory of the artists who made the mosaic, Marianus and his son Hanina. The Aramaic inscription reads:
This mosaic was laid in the year of the reign of Justinian the emperor for the sum of one hundred measures of wheat donated by the people of the village.
The central nave floor is divided into three panels: a depiction of the Binding of Isaac; a representation of the sun pulled by a star chariot surrounded by the constellations and signs of the zodiac; and a tableau representing the Temple of Jerusalem and religious objects associated with Judaism.
Sun god Helios zodiac of Beit Alpha Synagogue mosaic floor
The zodiac has the names of the twelve signs in Hebrew. In the center is Helios, the sun god, being whisked away in his chariot by four galloping horses. The four women in the corners of the mosaic represent the four seasons.
The most recent zodiac to be discovered is at Hammath-Tiberias.
Hammath means hot springs and the site is indeed a group of hot springs along the western shore of the Sea of Galilee. The rabbis identified them with the Hammath-Naphtali of Joshua 19: 35.
The place first became important when Herod Antipas founded the city of Tiberias near the springs in 18/19 BCE.
Tiberias was a Hellenistic city, but it also became an important Rabbinic center from the third century CE until 429 CE.
The synagogue with the zodiac is about one mile south of the modern city of Tiberias. Period II holds the zodiac wheel, and received the greatest attention from the excavator. The building which he found is definitely a synagogue, and went through two phases of construction, IIb, the older, and IIa, the younger.
The most striking aspect of the zodiac mosaic at Hammath-Tiberias is its Classical style, forming quite a contrast with the Oriental style of the other zodiacs. The iconography is completely in line with the typical Greek portrayals, to the point of including nude, uncircumcised, male figures for Libra and Aquarius.
The image of Sol is particularly interesting. It closely resembles the classical iconography of the cosmocrator. He is shown dressed in Imperial garb, a scarlet paludamentum, with his right hand raised in benediction. His left hand holds a whip, and a globe with two circles crossing. This is probably the spherical universe, with the celestial equator and the ecliptic, symbolizing universal rule. He looks right, and has both rays and a halo around his head. A crescent moon is shown beneath his right arm, and a seven-pointed star beneath his left.
Tiberius Synagogue mosaic zodiac the inner circle holds Sol Invictus driving his quadriga
The entrance inscriptions are interesting from several points of view. They contain the first epigraphic reference to the Jewish Patriarch.
Threptos, literally someone raised in the same family, probably means a member of the Patriarchs household here, but it is the phrase most illustrious Patriarchs which is the key to dating the inscription, and by implication, the zodiac mosaic and phase IIb.
Lamprotatos is an official title, the Greek equivalent of the Latin vir clarissimus, the official designation of the lowest of the three senatorial grades. The Patriarchs were not members of the Roman senate, but the Theodosian Code, 16.8.17, issued 392 CE, tells us that the Jewish Patriarch held the legal status of a senator, or a Praetorian Prefect.
That is Rabbinic Judaism, created by the Flavian dynasty and at the behest of the Lysimachus in Alexandria, such as Tiberius Julius Alexander, son of Alexander Lysimachus, nephew of Philo, and who renounced Judaism for the Roman civil service.
In The Gordion Knot of Classical Antiquity, I noted how:
It has become clear that the history of Christianity is founded less in Judea and more in those cities to the north, such as Emesa, Edessa and Adiabene, and to the various Nysa.
Christ within the Zodiac circle
Fresco from the Cathedral of the Living Pillar, Georgia
When archaeologists began uncovering zodiacs in synagogues, there were naturally surprised and since then, though the shock has worn off and there has been much scholarly discussion of their meaning, it adds up to very little.
This mystification is due to the wide-ranging character of the forces at work, across time and space from the Indus to the Nile and across centuries, beyond the accepted bounds of Classical Antiquity and encompassing many specialist fields of study.
Christ-Helios at the center of the zodiac (Bibliothéque Nationale)
As the opus of Claudius Ptolemy demonstrates, this is astronomy and astrology, geography and mathematics, and similarly with the opus of Philo, is syncretic. Hellenisation embraced more than Persia, but also India, Egypt and eventually, at enormous cost and with the brute force of Rome Judea.
Western civilisation is not particularly western and has rarely been civil.
At least we may now know from where the sun shines.
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What is the Zodiac?
'It is defined as a belt of the sky extending eight or nine degrees on either side of the ecliptic, the circle that the sun appears to trace in it's yearly journey around the earth. The constellations of the zodiac are the groups of stars which provide a backdrop to this journey.
So when we say that the sun is 'in' the constellation of Aries, for example, we mean that the stars of the constellation Aries are in the background at this particular stage of the sun's annual cycle.'
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Genesis 1
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years
Matthew 2
1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
Psalm 19
1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
Psalm 147
4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.
5 Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.
Job 26
13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.
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August 27, 2010, 02:41:02 AM »
Very interesting subject!
I hope the thread can stay on topic.
I spent several years researching Astrology (and other occult subjects) and I came to the conclusion that Astrology et al has been deliberately redacted and changed in order to render them; at best useless, and at worst dangerous to the user. This was enacted to reserve the "true" art for the initiates of the mystery schools controlled by the elite.
As a system of personality profiling Astrology can be very accurate and extremely interesting. After all if you study personality traits and assign them to particular Astrological alignments and you refine those observations for more than 5,000 years you have a science. And a science that can quite accurately describe basic personality traits.
The fact that I have found Astrology to be such an accurate personality analyzer leads me to believe that in it's unadulterated form it was probably frighteningly powerful.
This is of course only supposition on my part.
That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.
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August 27, 2010, 11:43:36 AM »
Quote from: Brocke on August 27, 2010, 02:41:02 AM
Very interesting subject!
I hope the thread can stay on topic...
Thanks Brocke, i wanna get to the truth about it is all, study it and see what is the reality, origins, and ?influences?, as for the thread staying on topic, i just wanna say thanks for the space many folks that could have jumped all over me for this have given, and i wanna thank them too for the respect shown.
More updates to follow.
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August 27, 2010, 12:30:49 PM »
'The celebrated historian of religion, Franz Cumont, for whom astrology was "nothing but the most monstrous of all the chimeras begotten of superstition", admitted it was "indissolubly linked not only with
, but also with
. If we go back to the earliest stages of every kind of learning, as far as the Alexandrine and even the Babylonian period, we shall find almost everywhere the disturbing influence of these astral mathematics".
Astrology has exercised the minds of some of the world's most celebrated philosophers, artists, and scientists*
*See the impressive list in "Teach yourself Astrology(1964), it includes Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle, Dante, Goethe, Kepler, Newton, Copernicus, and Galileo.'
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Paul Choisnard (1867-1930)
a founder and promoter of scientific astrology.
The first known article by Choisnard, dated 15 November 1898, and published in the Revue du monde invisible, was titled L'astrologie est-elle une science expérimentale? [
Is astrology an experimental science?
He asserts that "the actual demonstration of astral influence shows in the results of statistics by competent astrologers".
Paul Choisnard divides astrology into 3 categories: occult, divinatory, and scientific.
Occult or sacerdotal astrology
, linked to metaphysical astrology, works with 'revelations'.
Divinatory astrology
, linked to symbolic astrology, employs intuition and empirical rules.
Scientific astrology
seeks to 'make the definition and proof of correspondences scientific'.
Scientific astrology, as Choisnard defines it, contrasts with the occult astrology of revelations (explained most effectively by his contemporary, Alan Leo), and with intuitive divinatory astrology (such as onomastic astrology not based on astronomical data). For Alan Leo, scientific astrology was only a refinement of the historical determinist tendency which had always caused astrologers so many problems with ecclesiastical authorities. Paul Choisnard's works brought great clarity and appreciable pedagogical quality to astrology.
Choisnard and Heredity:
In 1919, under his first pen-name, Paul Flambart, published a work titled La loi d'hérédité astrale [The Law of Astral Heredity].
He compared the zodiacal positions, the house positions, and the angular distances in astrological charts of unrelated individuals to those from the same family, and arrived at the following conclusion:
"In the disposition of the stars in the sky at birth, the resemblances are much more frequent among members of the same family than among unrelated individuals, which indicates that nature tends to create the newborn under celestial conditions similar to those of his family members."
Choisnard's research on the laws of astrological heredity was resumed by Krafft in 1923 and 1939, and again more methodically by Michel and Françoise Gauquelin in 1977, 1978, and 1984.
In 1996, Françoise Gauquelin was still conducting work on this subject.
Choisnard and Psychology:
Like Michel and Françoise Gauquelin did in later years, Choisnard wrote and published psychological works (L'éducation psychologique [Psychological Education], Philosophie et Psychologie [Philosophy and Psychology], and Essai de psychologie astrale [Essay on Astral Psychology].
It is interesting to note that key eminent research analysts of scientific astrology have also done substantial work in the field of psychology, indicating an interest in the study of psychology within the framework of astrological research via scientific methods.
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How scientists are
usurping astrology
According to Valerie Vaughan (1996a) scientists and other academics have been usurping astrology by rewriting history and by not admitting the astrological basis of their ideas. As a result "astrological language is already being depleted and supplanted by scientific terminology: we are being dispossessed of our astrological principles."
What are these astrological principles that scientists and other academics are supposedly usurping? According to Vaughan (1996a,b) a basic astrological principle is "celestial-terrestrial correlations exist." Therefore any area is astrological if it involves things like biological clocks, bird migration, bees orientating themselves by the sun, fractal geometry, planetary patterns that correlate with anything terrestrial (weather, earthquakes, human behavior, animal behavior, the stock market). It is also astrological if it involves theoretical ideas such as the Gaia hypothesis, morphic resonance, and grand unification theories in physics. Similarly, Landscheidt (1994) includes patterns of plant growth, sunspot cycles, long lasting weather patterns, and daily cycles in animal metabolism, under the astrology label.
Vaughan (1995) says these scientific labels are "plagiarized astrology, pure and simple, and [astrologers] should feel free to quote [such research] when discussing correct astrological prediction." Furthermore, they "are not simply new names for what astrology has known all along, they are also scientific proof that astrology works"; therefore, despite academic talk of astrology being dead, "many astrologers think we should be celebrating a revival", even though the revival is being absorbed by these revisionist "territorial grabbers" (Vaughan 1996b).
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bump for later" great topic "
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August 27, 2010, 03:04:51 PM »
Do Freemasons believe in this?
Don't believe me. Look it up yourself!
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August 27, 2010, 03:11:43 PM »
Quote from: jofortruth on August 27, 2010, 03:04:51 PM
Do Freemasons believe in this?
Your general everyday "Lay"/ Free Mason i don't suppose so, however the higher degrees, that is a completely different ball game, they're beyond the lower orders, the highest being the "Priesthood of Old".
Third generation masons may be brought up with such knowledge, but like i say the Priesthood i suspect lives off this stuff.
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The man, lion, ox, and eagle, the four corners of the world. The number 13 is astrological in meaning.
The twelve constellations and the sun.
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Interesting topic - that Aquarius sign is "as above, so below", which is also a phrase they use in the occult/New Age. No wonder why the New Agers are anticipating an "Age of Aquarius" with their 'messiah'.
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Quote from: America2 on August 27, 2010, 03:17:41 PM
Interesting topic - that Aquarius sign is "as above, so below", which is also a phrase they use in the occult/New Age. No wonder why the New Agers are anticipating an "Age of Aquarius" with their 'messiah'.
Yes the last age about 2500 years has been that of Pisces, look at the first post, Pisces is the last sign, after that we go back to the first sign, Aries, that's why the Mayan calander stops after 2010, to them it's the end of the twelfth and final sign.
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Quote from: Viper on August 27, 2010, 03:22:24 PM
Yes the last age about 2500 years has been that of Pisces, look at the first post, Pisces is the last sign, after that we go back to the first sign, Aries, that's why the Mayan calander stops after 2010, to them it's the end of the twelfth and final sign.
Personally, I try not to look at the signs and prophecies of the occult religions, but at the same time, you can't deny that America, as well as the rest of the world, is on its very last legs - economy going to collapse soon faster than the Titanic, wars fixing to break out, the New Age movement infiltrating churches since the 80's, and on and on. And what year are we in? 2010?
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The four quadrants are :
Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius
Revelation 4
6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
Hint : Scorpio is the eagle.( The tribe of Dan)
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August 27, 2010, 03:45:48 PM »
aurus, Gemini, Cancer,
eo, Virgo, Libra,
corpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn,
quarius, Pisces
The twelve tribes : Gad,
phraim (Joseph), Asher, Issachar,
udah, Naphtali, Benjamin,
an, Manasseh, Zebulon,
euben, Simeon
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August 27, 2010, 03:48:51 PM »
Why do they say we are moving into Aquarius if Aries is the next age? I'm a little confused.
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August 27, 2010, 03:53:06 PM »
Quote from: Scribble on August 27, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
Why do they say we are moving into Aquarius if Aries is the next age? I'm a little confused.
Yes Scribble, i dunno if i've came across much info about this yet, you see before out current age we had aquarius, the time of the flood, be it Noah's or that of Babylon.
I haven't watched any of these age of aquarius vids for a while, i dunno ...
Probably folks with no astrology knowledge seen the mayan calender ends and tacked on the idea of the sign of Aquarius?
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August 27, 2010, 04:00:29 PM »
Hold on .. i got a page here i never gave much thought about before coming across all this :
1 Precession = 2160 years x 12 signs = 25,920 years
Seems we've been in the age of Capricorn(Zebulon)for the last two thousand odd years and will soon be going into the age of Aquarius.(2025)
Info directly from Cutting through Vol 1.
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August 27, 2010, 04:03:36 PM »
That first chart is a bit confusing because Aquarius is before Pisces. I remember getting confused about that when I first read my AW books.
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August 27, 2010, 04:07:45 PM »
Actually, wasn't Aries before Pisces? ... so the chart would be read "upwards"?
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August 27, 2010, 04:10:34 PM »
Quote from: Scribble on August 27, 2010, 04:07:45 PM
Actually, wasn't Aries before Pisces? ... so the chart would be read "upwards"?
That top chart ain't from Watt it's from the Zodiac book, the Zodiac begins with aries, look here at an Alan Watt Chart :
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August 27, 2010, 04:17:10 PM »
Quote from: Scribble on August 27, 2010, 04:03:36 PM
That first chart is a bit confusing because Aquarius is before Pisces. I remember getting confused about that when I first read my AW books.
Do you mean the Zodiac circle?
I dunno, you either read it clockwise or anti-, i been into this topic for a whole fortnight or so, what the f do i know?
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August 27, 2010, 04:20:26 PM »
Yeah, I don't know anything about it either, but I find it interesting. Thanks for posting the pic from Alan's book... I've since lent mine out.
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August 27, 2010, 04:24:23 PM »
Learning about the mystery religion and viewing examples of their work sure creeps me out sometimes.
I once had a go at reading the mormon bible once, many years ago and got creeped out just the same too.
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August 27, 2010, 04:28:14 PM »
Lol , I used to invite those guys in to "talk" all the time when I lived in Salt Lake City. I finally got them to tell me... quote:"You will go to Hell if you don't believe in the Book of Mormon". All 3 of them concured. I only made it through 1 chapter.
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August 27, 2010, 04:35:23 PM »
The Exorcist - Part 1
This is how i feel when studying this stuff.
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August 29, 2010, 03:08:13 PM »
Astrological Ages
In addition to it's apparent annual journey around the celestial vault, the sun has another, much longer, cycle with regard to the zodiac. Because the earth 'wobbles' slightly on it's axis, the sun's position at the spring equinox changes from year to year with reference to the fixed stars. The movement does not amount to much - about one degree of arc in seventy two years - but it has given rise to the concept of the Great Year, a period of 25,920 years, the time taken for the equinioctial point to travel throughout the circle of the constellations.
Astronomically this phenomenon is known as the 'precession of the equinoxes' since the equinoctial point appears to go
through the constellations. Every 2,160 years (25,920 divided by 12) or so, the equinox moves from one constellation to another.
At present it's moving from Pisces into Aquarius; at the beginning of the Christian era it was moving from Aries into Pisces, and, at the time of Abraham, from Taurus into Aries.
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August 29, 2010, 07:32:45 PM »
The Origins
'It is suggested that the areas of sky marked out by certain star groups were first experienced as areas of spiritual influence. It is likely that such 'experience' would not be available to all men, but would be available to those initiates who had endured the disciplines and spiritual enlightenments of those teachers in the
mystery schools
who were the mentors in the pre-Christian culture. By more or less clairvoyant vision, such men would experience the stellar areas, and then choose names and images which would encapsulate the qualities of the stellar influences which they sensed as streaming from those areas.'
The Secret Zodiac: The Hidden Art in Mediaeval Astrology
Re: Astrology - The language of the stars
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August 29, 2010, 07:55:32 PM »
The dominant symbol of the Age of Aries (2160BC - 1AD) was the Ram.
Genesis 22
13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.
The Ram displaced the Bull which thereafter (among the Hebrews at least) became a symbol of wickedness and debauchery. The story of moses abounds in Arien imagery.
Exodus 34
29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face
while he talked with him.
Hebrew word - karan = horned
The passover meal at which the lamb is ritually consumed commemorates the 'passing over' of the equinoctial point from Taurus to Aries.
Re: Astrology - The language of the stars
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August 29, 2010, 08:10:30 PM »
Horned Moses from Rosslyn Chapel, construction of the chapel began in 1456.
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Re: Astrology - The language of the stars
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August 29, 2010, 08:19:55 PM »
Aries (♈) (meaning "ram")
The first astrological sign in the Zodiac, named for the constellation of Aries, called "
The Ram
" in the Greek tradition, after the golden ram that rescued Phrixos, taking him to the land of Colchis.
In tropical astrology, this sign is no longer aligned with the constellation as a result of the precession of the equinoxes. Under the tropical zodiac, the Sun is in Aries roughly from March 21 to April 19, by definition beginning at vernal equinox. Under the sidereal zodiac, it is currently there roughly from April 15 to May 15.
Individuals born when the Sun was in this sign are considered "
Aries individuals
" or "
". In Western astrology, Aries is considered a "masculine", positive (extrovert) sign. It is also considered a fire sign, and is one of four cardinal signs. Aries is ruled by the planet Mars. Being the first sign in the zodiac, Aries is associated with the astrological first house. Furthermore, Aries is known as the pioneer of the Zodiac, and therefore, Arians like to be first.
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Re: Astrology - The language of the stars
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August 29, 2010, 08:35:43 PM »
In ancient days only seven planets were known about, the ones visible to the eye so modern astrology has a few changes but old astrology is the one with the significance throughout the Sumerian, Greek, Egyptian, Indian, Tibetan etc. histories.
Also the old astrology term 'Deacon', meaning constellations around a main zodiacal one has different meaning in modern stuff(something technical now), and in the modern Scorpio is ruled by Pluto, Aquarius by Uranus, and Pisces by Neptune,(first post pic is of the old form) but personally it's the old i'm interested in, where the Myths originate.
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August 29, 2010, 08:46:24 PM »
Quote from: Brocke on August 29, 2010, 08:19:55 PM
Aries (♈) (meaning "ram")
...and is one of four cardinal signs.
Aries is ruled by the planet Mars. Being the first sign in the zodiac, Aries is associated with the astrological first house. Furthermore, Aries is known as the pioneer of the Zodiac, and therefore, Arians like to be first.
The four cardinals are Aquarius, Leo, Taurus, and Scorpio, the man, lion, ox, and eagle.
Really Brocke you need to study more!
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August 29, 2010, 09:26:11 PM »
Virgo, Queen of heaven is very closely associated with Libra as she is with all constellations. She is both virgin and mother,
every year leading off the procession
of 'the Heavenly Host' as Virgo, giving birth to all that follow and, since her ruling planet is Mercury/Hermes/Thoth, the messenger of the sun, she is impregnated by 'ghostly' light from the father.
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Judges 13
1 And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD delivered them into the hand of the Philistines forty years.
2 And there was a certain man of Zorah, of the family of the Danites, whose name was Manoah; and his wife was barren, and bare not.
3 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son.
4 Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing:
5 For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines.
Samson's barren mom getting a message she was gonna conceive.
Samson - Hebrew = Shimshon, from the root Shemesh(sun)
Samson's concubine's name = Delilah, from deliy(water bucket) Aquarius)
Samson's first feat of strength was the killing of the lion(Leo, directly opposite from Aquarius)
In the winter during the month of Aquarius the sun is at it's weakest, Samson eventually dies (after his sunbeams, er hair has been cut) in the temple of the fish god, Dagon, between two pillars, like Jesus between the two thieves.
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For reference, one of the best i've found, but better ones exist with more detailed deacons.
Note : Capricorn has a fish tail.
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Perhaps you are indenting this thread to head in a direction I am unfamiliar with.
As far as I have learned (and I consider my knowlege to be no small measure) Aquarius, Leo, Taurus, and Scorpio are
Signs NOT
Viper, you have lost me...
Quote from: Viper on August 29, 2010, 08:46:24 PM
The four cardinals are Aquarius, Leo, Taurus, and Scorpio, the man, lion, ox, and eagle.
Really Brocke you need to study more!
The word "
" comes from the French "
" meaning
a hinge
, that on which something turns. It is the most important part.
The cardinal directions are the north, south, east and west
. They are the times when the seasons change.
Aries for Spring
Cancer for Summer;
Libra for Autumn; and
Capricorn for Winter.
They therefore are times for a new beginning.
In Astrology, the
signs are the
seventh and
(Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn)
These signs are characterised by enterprise, or starting things.
Sometimes Aries and Libra are called equinox signs, and Cancer and Capricorn are called solstice signs. Equinoxes are times of perfect balance between day and night (day and night are 12 hours long). The solstice times are the times of the longest day (Cancer) and the longest night (Capricorn).
Aries and Libra are times of balance
, but also times of abrupt change.
Cancer and Capricorn are times of extremes
The word "fixed" means securely placed and fastened and implies unchanging. In Astrology, the
fixed signs
are the second, fifth, eighth and eleventh (
Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius
). They are characterised by the keyword "stability" or firm and dependable.
The word "mutable" means "subject to change". The mutable signs are the third, sixth, ninth and twelfth (Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces). The keyword for these is "adaptability".
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I would be willing to take over and maintain the thread,Or start a new one ... No way I could rewrite the entire main post though.
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While I'm thinking about it, on the topic of song lists. There's already a big lyrics database I've been maintaining for main-list songs, is there any interest/need for the same for RBN tracks? (Obviously I couldn't manage it myself, but if it's in wiki form the bands/authors can just add to it.)
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It was, but they ran into legal troubles (I don't recall exactly what, but it had nothing to do with Sonic. I think it was more on the US label/distribution side). This thread's actually pretty old; there's a prospective song list 3.0 thread that's more up-to-date.


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