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TUESDAY, March 15, 1881--2 p. m.The Senate met pursuant to adjournment--Lieutenant Governor Hanna in the Chair.
The reading of the Secretary's minutes was dispensed with, and the Clerk proceeded with the reading of the bill [H. R. 204] concerning taxation--commencing at Section 139.
Mr. MENZIES called attention to the fact that the pending question was on concurring in a Committee amendment to Section 128 but inasmuch as there was a slim attendance of Senators, at his suggestion, it was informally passed over.
Mr. CHAPMAN offered a substitute for Sections 139, 140 and 141. He stated to the Senate that his substitute contains every provision in the three sections, except one feature which is found in the next section succeeding. The substitute contains every provision in the three, and is shorter than either one of the three for which it is offered as a substitute.
The substitute was adopted relating to the County Boards of Equalization, as follows:
SECTION 139. It shall be the duty of such Boards at such meeting to inquire as to the valuation of the various classes of personal property in the respective Townships and divisions of the County, and to make such changes, whether by way of increase or decrease in such valuation, as may be necessary to equalize the same as between the Townships, or divisions of Townships, and to determine the rate per cent. to be added or deducted in order to make a just and equitable equalization. In the year in which real estate is assessed it shall be the further duties of the Board to make in like manner an equalization as to the value of the real property in the respective Townships and divisions, so as to conform throughout the County to a just and equitable standard reference being had to the natural and artificial characteristics and surroundings and other elements of value. Such Board shall also have power in proper cases to reduce or increase the valuation of any particular tract or lot upon complaint being made to them; provided, that no increase shall be made upon complaints of another without notice to the owner or his agent, if a resident of the County. Any general changes in the valuation of personal or real property in any Townships or divisions shall be subject to the limitation contained in the next succeeding section.
Mr. CHAPMAN offered a substitute for Section 142, covering the same ground, but transposing the first two features and eliminating the County feature, to correspond with several amendments which have been made to the bill heretofore.
The substitute was adopted as follows:
Sec. 142. Such board may consider lands, town lots and city lots as separate classes if necessary for the purposes of equalization and determine a per cent. of addition or reduction for each or any of said classes within the respective Townships or as between the several Townships or other divisions. The Board shall have no power to reduce the aggregate valuation of all the Townships below the aggregate valuation as made by the Assessors, nor increase the same beyond the amount actually necessary for a proper and just equalization. If the Board shall find the aggregate assessment is too high or too low or as generally so unequal as to render it impracticable to equalize the same, it may set aside the assessment of the whole County, or of any Township or Townships therein, and order a new assessment, with instructions to the Assessor to increase or diminish the aggregate assessment of their respective Townships in such amount as the Board may deem right and consistent with law.
Mr. BELL noticing that Section 144 requires the State Board of Equalization to meet on the third Monday in July of each year, and regarding that as a very unpleasant time of the year for such meeting--moved to substitute the word "June" for the word "July."
The motion was agreed to.
Section 149, concerning the abstract of assessment, County Auditor's are required to transmit to the Auditor of State, being read--
On motion by Mr. BELL it was amended by making the time for the report on or before the 10th of "June," instead of "July," in each year.
page: 33[View Page 33]Mr. CHAPMAN moved to amend Section 159 by getting rid of six or eight lines of verbiage which adds nothing to the proposition in the section.
Mr. GRAHAM inquired if the amendment would admit of the pernicious practice of employing what is known as "ferretts" by the County authorities?
Mr. CHAPMAN--The amendment does not bear upon that one way or the other--it does not change the purport or scope of the section.
Mr. GARRIGUS suggested to make section more complete there ought to be a proviso added that every one passing through the County should visit the Auditor, take off his hat and make a profound bow to that official.
On motion by Mr. VIEHE, the amendment was amended and then adopted.
[The LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR appointed the same Joint Standing Committees as last session, except that Mr. Urmston is put on the Committee on Enrolled Bills in place of Mr. Foster, excused at his own request.
Mr. GRAHAM moved to amend Section 159 by adding to it the following: "Provided that no person shall be employed or authorized to discover and list omitted taxable property, except the County Auditor, as in this section provided." He said the effect of this amendment will be to cut out these "ferrets." Under this system a great deal of abuse has grown up. The Board of Commissioners should be prohibited from making a contract with such persons.
Mr. URMSTON submitted it would not be right to put that kind of an amendment in that section, or the reason that it does not allow the County Auditor to employ any one to assist him. While it may be true that abuses have sprung up through parties employed by the County Commissioners to look after property failed to be listed, there is a way of reaching those parties, if there is any warrant of law for that kind of work. He did not think there is any law authorizing that kind of employment, and did not think that kind of an amendment ought to be inserted in this section.
Mr. GRAHAM referred to cases where property has been purposely omitted so that these ferrets might discover it, and collect from the County Treasury the 25 per cent. they are usually allowed for discovery. That is the abuse the amendment seeks to strike at. Such cases are numerous--it is a system of fraud and larceny that ought to be cut off, and this amendment will do that. The County Auditor is the person who should make these assessments--being a responsible party.
Mr. HEFRON--Whenever the Auditor has reason to believe that property has been omitted in whole, or in part, he has the right to summon the party before him to show cause why that particular property has not been placed on the tax duplicate. And he may in various ways make a search. He may make examinaton of records for judgment or mortgages, or search the premises for tangible property; but under this amendment it is proposed to put this labor on the County Auditor without compensation.
Mr. GRAHAM--Is not this labor imposed upon that officer in the section without the amendment?
Mr. HEFRON--The authority and license is given him--that is all. It is left optionable with him. The County Auditor is not going out of his way to hunt up sequestered property without extra pay. He must first discover the property before he can place it on the duplicate, and he should have some 1ittle authority to have that done.
Mr. CHAPMAN believed sufficient machinery should be set to work to carry into execution the laws without employing persons under special contract. It is bad policy to employ persons for such purposes on special contract. It is inharmonious with our system of Government, and tends to make officials derelict in duty. He moved to add to the section the following, as a substitute for the amendment: "Provided that no person other than officials provided for in this law shall be employed by the County Commissioners to discover omitted property."
Mr. GRAHAM withdrew his amendment, preferring this substitute.
The amendment (Mr. Chapman's proviso) was agreed to.
On motion by Mr. VIEHE, the following words were added to the fourth clause of section 160: "But when personal property is required to be listed in a Township different from that of the owner's residence, it shall be taxed in the Township where listed."
On the further motion of Mr. VIEHE, Section 170 was changed in phraseology so as to make it consistent.
On motion by Mr. BELL, Section 162 was amended so as not to change the idea, but improve the phrsseology.
Mr. Foster made an ineffectual motion to strike out Section 171 He thought it wrong to make the County Auditor hunt up taxes all over the County, and leave his office to gather up facts required of him in this section without extra pay.
On motion by Mr. GRUBBS, the following was substituted for Section 172: "County Auditors shall not be authorized to credit the Treasurer with any uncollected delinquency for which he claims credit, unless such Treasurer shall show by proper returns, as above provided, that he has diligently sought for and has been unable to find any personal property from which to collect such taxes; or that having made a levy he was enjoined or otherwise prevented from making sale or collection by a Court of competent jurisdiction; and in all cases where he has failed to make demand upon residents who are delinquent, or to levy and sell when personal property can be found in the County, out of which to make the tax, he shall be liable on his official bond for such uncollected delinquency, and 10 per cent. damages thereon."
Mr. CHAPMAN could see no reason for the feature in Section 176 which provides that at sales by the County Treasurer for delinquent taxes due it shall not be necessary to offer the property in parcels. He could see no reason why the prperty should not be offered in the usual way--by articles. Great fraud could be perpetrated against the owner by offering the property in bulk, and no hardship could come by offering it in parcels. He moved to strike from the section that portion of it.
This motion was agreed to.
On motion by Mr. FOSTER, Section 178, allowing redemption of property sold by the County Treasurer for non-payment of taxes, was stricken out.
On motion by Mr. SPANN, Section 179, also relating to redemption, was stricken out.
On motion by Mr. VIEHE, the words "and expenses for taking care of property levied" were added to Section 180, providing fees to the Treasurer for making sales.
Mr. CHAPMAN moved to strike from Section 191 the clause authorizing collection by distress and sale from administrators, guardians and trustees all penalties for delinquency in payment of taxes on trust property when there is money enough on hand to pay the same.
Mr. BELL--We ought not to provide for collection by distraint from anyone acting in a fiduciary capicity. This ought not to apply to executors, administrators or guardians. Why should the old law be re-enacted? If any such officer has money in his hands and allows penalty to accrue for non-payment of taxes, he is liable under existing laws, for it is a violation of his official duty.
The motion to strike out was agreed to.
Mr. BUNDY moved to increase the printer's fee for printing the delinquent tax list in Section 206 from fifteen cents per description to twenty-five cents.
page: 34[View Page 34]Mr. BROWN made an ineffectual motion to make the fee "fifty" cents.
Mr. FOSTER moved to fix the price at thirty-five cents. He did not like to place this price too high nor too low. He was trying to raise the price that exact justice may be meted out, not only to all printers in the State but to a rival also. He never printed a delinquent list in his life. In a County the size of his the printer must keep on hand some $250 or $300 worth of type used for no other purposes, and pay from sixty to eighty cents per 1,000 ems for setting up type for delinquent lists.
Mr. SPANN favored the amendment--whatever may be a fair fee--and accepted the statement of the Senator from Allen (Mr. Foster) as correct.
Mr. BROWN referred to the fact that past legislatures had placed this fee at sixty to seventy cents, and his proposition a few minutes ago was not as high as that. The Brownstown paper says this work can not be done for less than forty-five cents. As long as his amendment was rejected, let the price be not placed less than thirty-five cents per description.
The amendment (Mr. Foster's) was adopted, and the Committee report as amended was concurred in. Mr. URMSTON moved to amend by adding to Section 206 the words; "And the same to include the heading and the Auditor's certificate."
Mr. KEISER had no objection to this amendment, for it is seldom any publisher claims that now The Attorney General has decided that the publisher can not charge for the heading or the Auditor's certificate to the delinquent list--that is all included in the price paid for each description.
Mr. SPANN thought the amendment ought not be adopted. The printer ought to be paid for this at a fair rate--perhaps a dollar a square. The County is more able to pay than an individual.
Mr. FOSTER stated that years ago in some of the Counties, editors were in the habit of leading the heading and certificate so as to run up a considerable bill, when the Legislature cut that off by refusing to pay for the heading or certificate. If an amendment were offered to prevent that kind of leading or slugging, it would be right and proper to pay for the printing of the heading and the certificate. The editor should not be compelled to give any space in his paper without compensation, for that is his bread and butter. I wrong, radically wrong, to require these publications without pay.
Mr. CHAPMAN regarded the publication of delinquent lists as of no use except to the newspapers that print them and the fellows who buy tax titles. The tax-payer knows whether his taxes are paid or not. Thirty-five cents per description is a fair compensation--just to the smaller Counties.
Mr. GRUBBS moved as a substitute these words: "And no additional fee shall be charged for the headings or Auditor's certifcate."
Mr. URMSTON accepted this substitute and withdrew his amendment.
Mr. KEISER had published several delinquent lists, but had never charged for the headings or the certificates; but, as the Senator from Rush (Mr. Spann) very pertinently said, it is unfair to make publishers do this work for nothing. Set the headings and the certificates in as small type as you can and they will take up the space of from forty to fifty descriptions, and it is hardly fair to ask this of publishers without any compensation. In Marion County, where the printing of the delinquent list amounts to $2,000 or $3000, the printer can afford to do the work for fifteen cents a description, but in Counties were there are only 200 or 300 it is not a big job.
Mr. CHAPMAN called the attention of the Senators to the fact that it is the poor tax-payer you are burdening this tax with for the benefit of the printer. Fifteen cents, the price fixed by the House of Representatives, is too low. That price was fixed upon after consultation with various publishers. It was found that the list could be, and would be, published in the larger Counties for fifteen cents a description, but that is too low for the smaller Counties. Now the Senate has fixed the price at thirty-five cents, which is more than double what the evidence shows the list would be printed for in this County.
Mr. BROWN could see no reason why this work should be required of the printer without pay. He moved, as a substitute, "that for the publication of the headng and Auditor's certificate to such list there shall be allowed the same compensation paid for legal advertising, which is set solid."
On a motion to adjourn, the yeas and nays were demanded, and, being ordered and taken, resulted--yeas, 12; nays, 26.
No quorum voting--
Another motion to adjourn was made agreed to without a division.
TUESDAY, March 15, 1881--2 p. m.The session was opened with prayer by Rev. Halloch Floyd, Member from Wayne County.
The reading of the Clerk's journal of Friday's proceedings was dispensed with.
Mr. HUSTON offered a joint resolution that an amendment be proposed to the Constitution, to be submitted to the electors of the State. Amend by adding sections: (1) Prohibiting the manufacture, sale, keeping for sale, of spirituous, vinous, malt or other liquors, except for medical purposes; (2) the General Assembly shall provide by law in what manner and what place such liquor shall be sold for such purposes.
The joint resolution was referred to the Temperance Committee,
The SPEAKER announced the special order, viz.: The consideration of the bill [H. R. 420] licensing persons carrying on the business of druggist and apothecary to deal in spirituous, malt and vinous liquors, prescribing penalties, etc., which was read the second time.
Mr. COLE moved to amend the bill by striking out all of Sections 2 and 3, Section 1 being: "Every person carrying on the business of drugstore and apothecary shall pay to the Treasurer of the County $5 as a license for one year, etc., which sum shall be paid into the school fund." Section 2 being: "Upon the presentation of such receipt to the Auditor of the County he shall execute to the person a certificate stating to him the delivery to him of the receipt, and that such person is licensed to carry on the business for one year from date of the receipt."
Mr. SCHWEITZER was of the opinion that druggists had no more right to sell whisky than dry goods stores.
Mr. FRAZER--I move that this bill be referred back to the Committee on Temperance for amendments so it will pass. It will never pass this way.
The amendment was withdrawn and the motion to refer was agreed to.
The SPEAKER announced the special order, being the bill [H. R. 255] concerning the organization of the Benevolent Institutions--providing for the appointment of Trustees thereof, etc. A majority of the Committee on affairs of the city of Indianapolis recommending its passage, and a minority of the same Committee recommending that the bill lie on the table, for the reason that it would complicate and make difficult the management of the Institutions; and for the futher reason that the object to be accomplished is a political one, the page: 35[View Page 35] Republicans seeking to oust the Democrats in the control of said Institutions.
Mr. McSHEEHY, in view of the fact that some members are not here to-day, moved that action upon the reports be deferred until one week from to-day.
Mr. MEREDITH moved to amend, by making the subject a special order for Thursday at 10 o'clock a. m.
The latter motion was agreed to.
On motion by Mr. MEREDITH, the bill [H. R. 48] concerning inclosures and trespassing animals was made a special order for to-morrow (Wednesday) at 10 o'clock a. m.
A majority of the Committee on Temperence reported on the bill [H. R. 89] concerning revenue from the sale of intoxicating liquors [to be appropriated to Public Libraries] recommending that the bill lie on the table.
A minority of the same Committee recommended the passage of the bill.
Mr. RYAN--It is only necessary for the House to understand the terms of that bill in order to concur in the report of minority. For the information of the House I ask that the bill be read.
Mr. Ryan's bill [H. R. 89] to authorize and empower Boards of County Commissioners or Common Councils of cities and Boards of Trustees of incorporated towns to appropriate to the support of Public Lbraries, organized by law, revenues derived by license for the saleof intoxicating liquors, being read--
Mr. RYAN--The purpose of this bill is to empower Boards of Commissioners, Common Councils of cities, Boards of Trustees, etc., to exact a license from every person selling intoxicating liquors, and under certain circumstances they may appropriate a certain portion of the revenue to the maintenance of the Public Libraries on condition that they shall be made absolutely free to all citizens in the locality. It seems to me there can be no two views of the feasibility of this measure. It is certainly in the interest of the people, the dissemination of useful information, and it is dividing the revenue, thus releasing the people from taxation for the support of Libraries. It is levying a contribution upon the whisky sellers for the benefit of education, and the dissemination of useful intelligence. It seems to me that the House ought to concur in the minority report and so recommend the passage of this bill. There could be no better use made of the funds derived from this source than the appropriation of all or nearly all of it to the maintenance of these Libraries. It does not affect the school fund materially because it is not a permanent fund; it is likely to be changed or disposed of by any session of Legislature. I hope the minority report will prevail.
Mr. BUSKIRK--I hope the minority report will not prevail, because it would be bad policy to take the license from the schoo1 fund, where it now goes, and put it in public libraries. My experience is that public libraries do not do a great deal of good. I think the present manner of disposing of that fund is better than the one proposed by the bill.
The majority report was concurred in.
The Committee on Roads reported on the bill [H. R. 5] in relation to Supervisors of Highways, recommending that it lie on the table, the subject matter being contained in another bill reported favorably.
Report was concurred in.
The same Committee reported on the bill [H. R. 274] concerning gravel roads and other corporations, recommending its passage after amendment by substituting new matter after the enacting clause.
The report was concurred in and the bi11 was ordered engrossed.
The Committee on Roads reported on the bill [H. R. 348] concerning gravel and macadamized roads, recommending that it lie on the table, for the reason that the same matter is contained in another bill.
The report was concurred in.
The Committee on Roads reported on the bill [H. R. 188] to abolish the office of Supervisor, recommending that the bill lie on the table.
The report was concurred in.
Also on the bill [H. R. 230] concerning the working and improvement of roads and highways, recommending that it lie on the table.
The report was concurred in.
Also on the bill [H. R. 92] providing for bonds in th construction of gravel and macadamized roads, recommending that it lie on the table.
The report was concurred in.
Also, on the bill [H. R. 118] for the working of public highways by taxation, recommending that it lie on the table, as the same matter is included in another bill.
The report was concurred in.
Also, on the bill [H. R. 151] making Township Trustees Superintendents of Highways, recommending that the bill lie on the table.
The report was concurred in.
Also, on the bill [H. R. 215] for the relief of plank, macadamized and gravel roads, recommending that it lie on the table.
Mr. RYAN--The report of the Committee should not be concurred in. This bill provides for the completion and approval of the assessments to extent of enabling owners of this class of roads to collect the pay for liabilities that have been incurred for the benefit of the community. There certainly can be no objection to this measure. Many roads were built in anticipation of this assessment under the then existing law, when the Legislature came along and wiped it out, and left these men bankrupts, growing out of the repeal of this law. It is right, it seems to me, that some such law should be passed to reimburse these men for their means invested.
Mr. FLOYD thought if this measure passed it would lay the foundation for extensive litigation.
On motion by Mr. RYAN, the bill was recommitted to the Judiciary Committee.
The Special Committee on Rooms reported that in pursuance of the order of the House, they contracted for the two cottage rooms at the Grand Hotel at the prices directed; also that the office of Major Carter for the use of the Judiciary Committee was contracted for, and asking for a discharge of the Committee.
The report was concurred in.
The Insurance Committee reported on the bill [H. R. 95] regulating Fire Insurance Companies, etc., recommending that the bill lie on the table.
The report was concurred in.
It also reported on the bill [H. R. 94] to regulate Fire Insurance Companies, recommending that the bill lie on the table.
The report was concurred in.
It also reported on the bill [H. R. 419] in relation to Tontine Insurance Companies, recommending its indefinite postponement.
On motion by Mr. BUSKIRK, action upon this report was deferred, awaiting the presence of the author of the bill.
The Committee on Insurance reported on the bill [H. R. 335] concerning foreign Insurance Companies, recommending indefinite postponement.
On motion by Mr. M'INTOSCH, action was deferred until the author of the bill is present.
The Committee on Insurance, reported on the page: 36[View Page 36] bill (H. R. 426] concerning corporations, recommending the passage of the bill with amendments.
On motion by Mr. HUSTON, the bill was recommitted to the Judiciary Committee.
The Committee on Insurance reported on the Revision Committee's bill [H. R. 344] concerning insurance, recommeding its passage with amendments.
On motion by Mr. CARTER, the bill was laid on the table and 200 copies ordered printed.
Mr. SCHWEITZER moved to amend the bill [H. R. 344] by adding the following section:
"All Insurance Companies organized pursuant to the laws of this State, before there is any business done in any County in this State, shall be required to procure from the Auditor of State a condensed statement of their condition--each shall contain such itemized statements of liabilities as the Auditor may deem it necessary to show the public the true condition of such Company, and they shall, before taking any risks or do any business in this State, cause such statements to be published in a newspaper in said County."
Mr. McSHEEHY, by request, offered the following amendment:
"And such Company shall cause such semi-annual statement to be published in one paper of general circulation in each County of the State of Indiana in which such Company transacts business, and shall file with the Auditor of State a copy of each publication, together with the certificate of each publisher attesting such publication, and the date thereof; provided that such semi-annual statement shall be set solid withont unnecessary display. Furthermore, such Company, for the fuller information and protection of the insured, shall attach to each policy when issued a true copy of the last preceding semi-annual statementof such Company."
Mr. BUSKIRK moved that the amendments offered to-day on this bill lie on the table and be incorporated in the motion to print.
Mr. MEREDITH made an ineffectual effort to lay this motion on the table.
The motion was agreed to.
The Committee on Cities and Towns reported on the bill [H. R. 228] concerning streets and alleys, recommending its passage with amendments.
On motion, the bill was referred to the Judiciary Committee.
Mr. FURNAS offered a concurrent resolution for a proposed amendment to the Constitution, providing that, in all elections not otherwise provided for by this Constitution, every citizen of the United States of the age of twenty-one years and upward who shall have resided in the State six months and in the Township sixty days, the Ward or Precinct thirty days immediately preceding such election, and every person of foreign birth of the age of twenty-one years and upward who shall have resided in the United States one year and in the State six months, and Township sixty days immediately preceding such election, and shall have declared his intention to become a citizen of the United States, comformable to the law on the subject of naturalization, shall be entitled to vote in the Township, Ward or Precinct where he shall reside continually, and was duly registered according to law.
Resolved, that this amendment, when voted upon, shall be designated No. 1.
The resolution was referred to the Committee on Female Suffrage.
The bill [S. 24], authorizing the appointment of a Commissioner of Fisheries for the State of Indiana, defining the duties and making appropriation to defray the expenses thereof [amount, $2,000], was read the first time and referred to a Special Committee.
The bill [H. R. 311], to amend Section 26 of the fee and salary act, was read the second time.
On motion by Mr. BARNETT, the bill was ordered engrossed.
On motion by Mr. MEREDITH, Senator Comstock's bill [S. 192] to legalize the proceedings of School Trustees of Milton, Wayne County, was read the second time.
On motion by Mr. LINDSAY, the House took up Senate bills on second reading.
Senator Comstock's bill [S. 169] amending an act defining who are persons of unsound mind, and authorizing the appointment of guardians for such persons, powers, duties, was read the second time.
Senator Compton's bill [S. 40] amending Section 3 of an act of March 5, 1877, providing for Township elections, was read the second time.
Senator Van Vorhis' bill [S. 27] amending Section 1 of an act concerning the election of Justices of the Peace was read the second time.
Senator Langdon's bill [S. 157] amending Section 4 of the act concerning guardian and ward, approved June 9, 1854 was read the second time.
Senator Henry's bill [S. 151] amending Section 7 of the act for the incorporation and continuance of Building Fund and Saving Fund Association was read the second time.
Senator Langdon's bill [S. 149] to amend Section 28 of the act providing for the organization of Savings Banks and the proper management of their affairs, was read the second time.
Senator Viehe's bill [S. 153] to amend Section 1 of an act to provide for voluntary assignments--for personal and real property--was read the second time.
On motion by Mr. FRAZER, the bill [H. R. 138], regulating charges of railroads, was ordered engrossed.
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The courage of women like Malala Yousafzai, the 15-year-old student leader in Pakistan who was shot and nearly died for fighting for girls' right to education; Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi, who endured nearly 15 years of house arrest because of her stand for democracy in Myanmar; and of precedent-setting presidents like Ellen Johnson Sirleaf of Liberia and Dilma Rousseff of Brazil is inspirational.
America's women and work discussion could take a lesson from other countries.
Americans make plenty of pronouncements about why countries like Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia should let women go to school, drive cars and have many of the rights American women take for granted.
But focusing exclusively on the extreme examples of restrictions on women's rights elsewhere provides a convenient way to overlook the ways we could do better here at home.
We have an opportunity to learn from countries that are far ahead of the United States in closing the gender gap in leadership positions in politics and business, if we are open to it.
Female leaders around the world have taken heat for saying things other people didn't want to hear.
The same is happening in the United States with the ferocious and personal attacks on Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg for her new book, "Lean In: Women, Work and the Will to Lead."
Sandberg doesn't pull punches on the professional and social obstacles facing women, but is taking heat for her valid point that women need to recognize ways in which they hold themselves back.
In my view, one way is to deny that there is a problem that needs attention: much like the business and government leaders who see the case for closing the gap but give it short shrift.
Research shows the clear business case for increasing the number of women in leadership positions. The World Economic Forum's annual Global Gender Gap Report notes that the smaller a country's gender gap, the more likely it is to be competitive.
Catalyst, which works to expand opportunities for women and business, shows that Fortune 500 companies with three or more female directors outperform those without by as much as 84%.
Iceland has been the top ranking country on the Global Gender Gap Report for the past four years, in part helped by flexible work arrangements for men and women.
Countries that have not made as much progress as they would like are adopting more aggressive tactics. In politics, Morocco has raised the participation of women in parliament to 10.8%, compared to just 4.6% in the Arab world, by introducing a 30-seat quota.
European officials saw the percentage of women on corporate boards, now about 14%, rising so slowly that it would take 40 years to approach gender balance in boardrooms. In response, the European Commission has proposed requiring women make up 40% of boards of the largest public companies by 2020, following Norway, which since 2008 has required publicly listed companies to have at least 40% of both women and men on their boards.
Even when the numbers show the right thing to do is clear, institutions are slow to change. In the United States, Ernst & Young reported that women hold only 14% of board seats at companies listed on the S&P Composite 1500 Index.
A startling 36% of companies do not have a woman on their boards of directors, according to GMI Ratings.
Parliaments around the world have more than tripled the percentage of women serving over the past decade, according to the International Parliamentary Union.
But while the United States elected a record number of of women to the Senate last year, we still rank lower than most countries.
Not enough decision makers in the United States acknowledge that we need to be as aggressive as these other countries in closing the gender gap.
More women also can be pro-active in assessing where they and the system fall short, and make specific plans to do something about it.
Change can only happen when both decision makers and women recognize the areas where they can do better.
Looking at what women and men in other countries have done is a good place to start.
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Anyone know where i can find some good non explicit hip/hop? I work with youth and we are limited to what we are aloud to let the kids listen to (Ages 13-17 in rehab see why we are limited?) and a lot of them have requested music from Tech N9ne and a lot of other artist from the underground scene.
Im having a hard time finding music that is clean to listen to, please don't tell me im limited to what's on the radio lol. I know there is the odd song here and there that is clean but has Tech ever released a full clean version of his albums? Any help would be much appreciated.
Chamillionaire has a lot of clean music and it's good.
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uh christian rap? will smith? maybe some of the beastie boys
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uh christian rap? will smith? maybe some of the beastie boys
Tech released All 6s and 7s clean at Wal Mart so it'll be around. i think there's clean versions of K.O.D
For clean music with substance I suggest the album Soundtrack to the Struggle by Lowkey. He's a dope British rapper and I think it'd be good for opening the minds of people you're working with.
I've been listening to Lupe Fiasco's new album a bit, so if you have to find some clean versions I suggests the tracks ITAL (Roses), Audubon Ballroom
Also I think CunninLynguists would be a good group to look into. Check out their tracks Nothing to Give, Dreams, The Distance, and Stars Shine Brightest
some other tracks
Vinnie Paz - Movin' On
Snowgoons - Starlight (Feat. Viro the Virus)
Proof - Clap Wit Me
K'Nnaan - Wavin' Flag and 15 Minutes Away
Immortal Technique - Crimes of the Heart (Can't find a clean version but if you can get that by please do so lol. Look for the version without the hidden track that the song comes with the CD file of the track)
XV - Pictures On My Wall and Textbook Stuff (Feat. Kendrick Lamar)
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why does clean rap have to be christian rap btw :S sorry my non-religious ass just isn't a fan of that lol
T-Bone is a dope christian rapper as well, and his music is not all preachy shit
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Are we functional yet? The return of the family problems thread. |
Nov 18 2009, 12:07 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 330 From: California |
It was just weird. It pisses me off too because my father isn't even married to my stepmother and her kids are not his and I'm just...replaceable. Bah. Rogue, I know exactly how this feels cos I was in that exact same place. Only I was just 12/13 years old. My father was never there for me in my childhood. Not to go into too much details but he fucked up royally and thought more of his new family than he ever did of me and my Mom. I hated him for it. I didn't take my hatred out on his GF or her kids but her daughter (1 yr older than me) took an immediate dislike to me and there was tension whenever I visited and at school. Once he told me we would be going to an amusement park the next week, I got ready and he never showed. But he took the rest of his new family, there was "No room for me in the car as D decided to go at the last minute". Well screw me then I guess? The week after I decided that *I* wouldn't turn up to the arranged location. He turned up on our doorstep at 11pm blind drunk. I told him at 14 to fuck the hell off and that I no longer wanted to see him. My life was much better after that, but it STILL hurts to this day that he replaced our family and no longer gave a shit. If your gut is saying stay home, they stay home. I've definitely learned to listen to my inner me and she's never been wrong so far! (((HUGS))) |
Nov 17 2009, 10:34 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 362 From: The Great White North. |
Hey ketto - yeah, I'm just going to keep the time off for myself. It's my last three days of vacation this year and I have ten days off (paid!) at Christmas because my office closes from 24 December - 4 January, which is awesome. I'm just going to spend time hanging out around the house and stuff, probably go out for some walks, whatever. I've wanted some downtime so I think it's a good idea. I hate to say it but my stepfamily is truly made up of a bunch of idiots. I e-mailed one of my best friends today and told her that it's something that I really just realized and that I need to get over. People are going to be assholes - nothing I can do about it, right? I'm also used to being left out of everything - one time they all got a family photo done and I wasn't included in it. Like, I live a three hour drive away but I definitely would have made it over for that if they had even mentioned it. So I went to visit after it was done and there it was, hanging on the wall, sans moi. It was just weird. It pisses me off too because my father isn't even married to my stepmother and her kids are not his and I'm just...replaceable. Bah.
I also just got word last night that my grandmother might be bleeding internally (again) so I think it best that I stay close to home this weekend. She's had a really shitty year and I would hate to be away if something happened. It's not a I'd never be able to forgive myself situation, but I would not be happy about it at all. -------------------- Vixi liber et moriar. |
Nov 17 2009, 10:23 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 106 From: London |
Raisin, can you just pull the oh I have too much work to do card? or get conveniently ill? you wouldn't want to infect anyone after all
and then just take the time for yourself to do your own thing for a couple days without any expectations. I've just had to explain for the FIFTH YEAR IN A ROW that no mom they don't celebrate Thanksgiving in the UK, see it's an American holiday, and this is another country. I'd tell her it feels like she doesn't listen to me but I don't think she'd actually listen to me. -------------------- I am not a reliable narrator
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Nov 17 2009, 10:18 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 695 From: Winter Land |
Roque, I always say follow your instincts. It sounds like you've thought long and hard about the reality of your family and the situation so I say do what feels right for you. Since I'm assuming you booked some time off for the trip, are you taking some time for yourself instead?
(((raisin))) -------------------- Meow.
Nov 16 2009, 07:58 PM
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I'm having holiday-related anxieties. I really wish I were in a position to host my own Thanksgiving (which I hate anyway as a holiday because it's all about the fuckin' dead bird), not in a position to play dodge the relatives in Dysfunctionland.
Nov 16 2009, 07:53 PM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 362 From: The Great White North. |
I'm such a waffler. This is kind of cross-posted in the confessions thread, but I'm pretty sure I'm not going on the trip. This past weekend started and it just didn't feel right anymore, you know? I feel in my soul that I shouldn't be going (and I never argue with my soul). I don't have the stamina for a car trip like that - the length and also dealing with my stepfamily's shit. Like I said there, 98.275% sure that I'm just going to take my five days vacation and hole up in my little apartment and just chill out. Have some me time. Relax and all that shiz.
It's just really hard because I always feel left out by all of them. They all grew up together and I was with my Mom. I would never trade being raised for her by anything, but I think you can understand where I'm coming from. I just need to grow up - I'm not a little kid anymore and they are a really shitty family. I know that now. I just need to stop getting my hopes up that they'll change because they never do. So it's time to give up the ghost, so-to-speak. I think it will be nice to just be by myself for a bit anyway. As before - thanks for all your support here, everyone. It really means a lot to me to have so much feedback and positive wishes/thoughts from you all. You're the complete and utter best. -------------------- Vixi liber et moriar. |
Nov 13 2009, 10:05 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 362 From: The Great White North. |
Thanks so much, ladies! I think it's going to be really difficult for me to just keep my mouth shut if she tries to discuss things with me, but like I (and you) said, I'm trying so hard to be the bigger person here. My best friend is huge on that - she is always the bigger person and that's why I love her. She's so kind and gracious and calm - which is the exact, total opposite of me. I've been told that I am "a force to be reckoned with", and to be completely honest, I'd rather be the eye of the storm. I try to be calm in situations of personal stress but I just end up feeling attacked and lash out at whomever is closest (which is funny because in other stressful situations [emergencies, etc.] I am the calmest person there is). I'm just going to keep remembering all the support that I've received here and from my bestie and I think everything will be okay. S can only make me feel bad if I let her, and I refuse to let her.
And ketto, you're right. I am really looking forward to going on this trip - it's been almost four years since I went anywhere and I love to travel! - so that's pretty much the entire reason why. I love exploring new places and taking photographs and I've never been to Montreal or Quebec City or Saint-Jean (we're going to all three!) so I'm super excited. I'm not going to let S take away my dignity or my sense of fun. No way, no how. She can be a baby but I'm not going to let her bring me down. -------------------- Vixi liber et moriar. |
Nov 13 2009, 09:31 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 695 From: Winter Land |
I agree with candycane. It can be so fucking hard to keep your mouth shut but usually it's worth it in the end. It sounds like you're really looking forward to the trip so hopefully all goes well and everyone can just let sleeping dogs lie.
-------------------- Meow.
Nov 13 2009, 07:57 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 2,336 From: Canada |
rogue, I think you're doing the right thing. Sometimes, as tempting as it is to tell someone what you think it's better just to stay quiet. For one thing, no one can accuse you of trying to start shit. And for another, you really are being the bigger person.
Nov 13 2009, 05:44 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 362 From: The Great White North. |
Update: I have decided that I am not going to e-mail her anything even remotely close to an apology, or even at all. I've done nothing wrong in this situation and I'm not going to cater to her anymore. I'm going to be my awesome self on this trip and if she doesn't like it, that's too bad. If she even mentions anything in the car I am going to calmly say, "You know what, S? That's in the past and I'm over it. I'm not going to discuss it on this trip because it's neither the time nor the place. In fact, I'm not going to discuss it with you at all." If she keeps pressing the issue, in go the headphones and on go the tunes. I have found from the past that it doesn't matter if you try to explain yourself with people like her - it just doesn't work. They don't care about how you feel, they just want you to feel guilty and manipulate you to come to their point of view, and that just won't be possible if I have music blasting in my ears and a good book on my lap, now will it?
-------------------- Vixi liber et moriar. |
Nov 11 2009, 09:41 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 362 From: The Great White North. |
See, that's what I was thinking too, coffee. Last night I drafted out this whole message I could send her but I decided to sleep on it because it was so - blunt. As in, blunt to the point of being mean, even though that wasn't the intent. So I didn't send it and talked to my mother about it this morning and she was like, "Don't you dare e-mail her! It's not your responsibility, you aren't the one who caused the mess regarding her wedding!" and so I think I might follow her - and your! - advice. I'm definitely not going to start anything - the whole context of the message was that this isn't about her - it's about her brother; it's A's Big Day, as I have been referring to it. It would be incredibly unkind to to something like that to him and I refuse to.
So yes. I completely agree. I don't think I'm going to say anything. I spoke to my bestie about it this morning and she was like, "Uh, you have a twelve-hour long car ride. Discuss it then." Haha. I think that would be worse but I'm not planning on making this awkward. You're right. If she can't handle her own emotions that's really saying something. If she does act like a brat though, I'm definitely going to put her in her place. Nicely, of course. =P -------------------- Vixi liber et moriar. |
Nov 11 2009, 08:53 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 144 |
I just read your post about the recent conversation you had with your stepmom - WTF? I feel pissed for you! Why is it up to you to solve this problem and make sure that your stepsister is okay? It really sounds as though the whole family has treated your stepsister with kid gloves and that she is not used to not getting what she wants (this was clear from what happened with the wedding). At this point your stepsister doesn't even sound emotionally old enough to handle being married! To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if she tries to make this trip about you and her - even though you have made a concerted effort to not get into it. It also says a lot about your stepmother if she can't realize that asking you to write your stepsister a letter means that she is asking you to swallow what your STEPSIS did to YOU - why can't the family just accept that you and your stepsister don't have to be besties - you just have to be civil. I say don't give in - yes be the bigger person on the trip - but your stepsister also needs to learn how to handle herself and her emotions all on her own like a big girl! Gah! |
Nov 10 2009, 10:28 PM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 362 From: The Great White North. |
Ugh, life.
I called my dad/stepfam tonight to talk about how we are going to meet up to head up to Montreal next week and I was speaking to my stepmother before speaking to my father and damn. She actually asked me to "work my magic" on my stepsister to make sure everything is okay on the way up there and that we don't have a drive in total silence for twelve hours. She wants me to write her a letter and fix everything. My response was, "Are you kidding me?!" to which she replied, "No." Bah. I might message her and be like, this isn't about you or whatever happened with your wedding, it's about A, your brother, and I care about him and this is his day, so don't be retarded. The end. But it's just so convoluted. New mantra: Be The Bigger Person, Be The Bigger Person, Be The Bigger Person. Funny thing is, I thought I would be stressed about this, but I'm not, really. More irked than anything that she's twenty-five and can't deal with her own shit and has to go through our respective parents instead of actually getting a pair and talking to me like a civil human being instead. Grow up, please. -------------------- Vixi liber et moriar. |
Nov 10 2009, 06:03 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 362 From: The Great White North. |
Haha, I totally forgot about that, CCG! I saw that movie a loooong time ago - what is the context of that line? It's Gwenyth Paltrow's and Luke Wilson's characters, I think - definitely correct me if I'm wrong. And she's adopted or something, isn't she? Note to self: download and rewatch The Royal Tenenbaums.
And no, I'm not actually in love with my stepbrother. This all just recently came to light though - since I lived with him for a month-and-a-half this summer and was talking to people about how much he just doesn't bother with me. When J (nice stepbrother) took me in, we hung out all the time and talked all the time and generally acted as siblings do, even though we have no blood relation between us at all (but our family has been combined for the past twenty-one years, so you know, we kind of are all like real siblings). A (not-so-nice stepbrother) didn't bother with me. He was purposefully never around, he brought home a different girl every night (I'm totally not exaggerating here), and when he did talk to me it was so obviously forced. So I was talking to people about it and even my own mother was like, "Maybe he likes you but doesn't want to say anything about it because his mother and your father would have a fit so he just acts like he hates you." That's when I was like WTF because my mother is very intuitive and knows her shit. I don't know, it's all convoluted and odd. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about anyway, it's just interesting to think about because it would be strange to go from thinking someone hates you to knowing they actually love you. That would be odd. -------------------- Vixi liber et moriar. |
Nov 10 2009, 12:19 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 2,336 From: Canada |
rogue, as opposed to Clueless it kind of made me think of The Royal Tenenbaums, especially one line "I think we're just going to have to be secretly in love with each other, Richie, and leave it at that." Of course, something tells me that you aren't actually in love with your stepbrother.
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Nov 9 2009, 10:03 AM
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Splendor, that is great news about your cousin!!! Her ex isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer is he now. I know from my previous line of work that someone will turn him in. Nothing speaks greater volume than the almighty dollar.
Rogue, I hope things turn out well!!! Madamehooch, (((((madame))))))) Well, my mother and I have gotten into some real blowouts (that have also turned violent). I'm with the others, is there anyway you can move out on your own or with the b/f? I'm sure you have loyalties to your mom because she's your mom, but I also believe that there comes a time when you cannot remain in a toxic relationship with someone, whether they are family or not. have you spoken to your mother since this occured? -------------------- Hatred does not cease in this world by hating, but by not hating; this is an eternal truth. --- Buddah, The Dhammapada
Nov 9 2009, 09:41 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 695 From: Winter Land |
Splendor, that's fantastic that they were able to save her arm. What an idiot, why would you post on a public networking site?! Hopefully that will help the police to track him down quickly.
Roque, it sounds like you've thought a lot about the trip. I was just reading over your posts, and it seems like you're feeling a lot more positive about it now. Hopefully it will be seen as a way to reach out to your step family. That's funny that more than one person has mentioned that he's possibly attracted to you. Madame, I'm with seven too. Paperboy's mom can be really manipulative and loves to play the guilt trip card. It drives me nuts. I really like his mom, but I hate when she pulls shit like that. I grew up in a household where people said what they meant. The first time paperboy tried to pull that guilt stuff on me I think it backfired because I was the one who ended up in tears. -------------------- Meow.
Nov 9 2009, 07:22 AM
Hardcore BUSTie Posts: 362 From: The Great White North. |
((((Madame))) That really sucks about your mom. I can't believe that she would say something like that to you - the whole "you'll be sorry" statement. That stuff doesn't sit well with me and I'm sorry that you have to put up with it. My mother and I are pretty close but we get into arguments at times, but nothing like that. How are things going now? I hope things are better now, even if only a little. I agree with seven - I think you did the right thing by getting out of there - if I've learned one thing this year it's that I - and no one else - should ever have to put up with anyone else's shit. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life. Seven's whole post is pretty darn accurate, I think, especially about not being able to fix other people. I've learned that this year, too.
And persi - you are hilarious! I love your "HA! I knew it!" re: my stepbrother. The more I think about things since people have been mentioning what they think of the situation (my mother, two best friends, and my hairdresser all think he's secretly liked me for years), the more I think that it could be probable. I just keep thinking back to how it was when I was living with my stepfamily two years ago and one specific event - my BF and I were home alone at the time and getting ready to go out and so we decided to just get in the shower together. My dad's house has a very strange layout - it has two bathrooms, the one upstairs has the bathtub and the one downstairs has the shower, and the downstairs bathroom is right next to the door we use to enter the house. Anyway, BF and I were just finishing up in the shower when A, my stepbrother came home. BF left the bathroom first and then I did once I had toweled off and dressed. No one else but the three of us were home and so no one else would have known about us showering together (and who cares, we were grown adults anyway!) but that night when BF and I came home my dad sat me down and ragged me out over it because A had ratted on us for no reason. Why would he do that? I don't get it. It's just weird. This whole thing is weird. I have to confess, a little piece of me wants to go to Montreal next week just to see if he will look at me/talk to me when we go to his grad. Again - not messing anything up, I would never dream of it! - but I just want to see how he acts because I have never considered the idea of him liking me before and I want to see if there are any clues to pick up on that I might not have noticed before. It's intriguing. I'm sure nothing would ever come of it, but it's an interesting theory. It would kind of be like a movie or something - Clueless anyone? -------------------- Vixi liber et moriar. |
Nov 8 2009, 07:56 PM
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((MadameHooch)) What a horrible situation. Could you move out, either alone or with your boyfriend? It sounds like almost anything would be better than continuing to love with your mother.
((splendorfamily)) Hoping ex-scum's stupidity leads to a quick capture. ((rogue)) I'm glad you talked to your Dad and that he thinks everything will be ok, and I hope you can travel up with your other stepbrother. Also, ha! I knew it. That's why he had such a problem with you when your bf was staying with you. -------------------- "Logic is the art of going wrong with confidence."
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Nov 6 2009, 01:24 AM
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I wish this post did not provoke so much anger and blinding memories of my own family so I could offer some sober and responsible support (since I'm wide awake). But as it is, your mother is obviously extremely manipulative and derives some sort of emotional reward from pushing you, from making you feel guilty and proving you weak. So it was the rightest thing you could do to remove yourself from her toxic field. Whatever she's gone and did, (and she's most likely listening to the phone ring and punishing you), you may be sad, but you should not feel sorry or guilty. (It's horrible when people threaten other people with what they're about to do... That's such manipulative bullshit...) One thing that I try to remember when dealing with this is that we cannot fix other people. We can't, it's impossible. So it's useless to feel guilty for not doing something that is impossible to do. It's not our job to save our parents, babe. I know. And whatever awful answer you gave, you were reacting. And she probably needed to hear it. You didn't plan to hurt another, you were saving yourself. It's a reflex. (Hey, you used words, at least you didn't break the bottle in her head.) That's all I can say, you're not a bad daughter, Madame Hooch. You're good. -------------------- Every story is a cup so empty it can be drunk from again and again. - MJH
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hello, I have an old 1942 03A3 rifle, the stock is a little rough, i want to restain it.to look like orginal question, should i rough sand it,steel wool 0000 then tack cloth, minwax prestain prep minwax jacobean stain 2 or 3 times till color i want is achieved then how to seal? tung oil? if tung oil, whats procedure any help would be helpful frodo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1geyoxeifk0&list=TLCjiCHNF4Km-K01r9YCvOX7MfpQ97FJEt | |||
sounds reasonable. thing I wonder about is, has the stock bleached from being wet too long, or is that just a surface aberration. I'd 400 sand it smooth as a baby's butt first, and rub with a rag soaked in mineral spirits. if the color is good, proceed as described. if it's still off color, the wood might have been mineralized and not willing to take stain, either. personally, I'd start with a gunsmith and a few brews and brats on a football afternoon, and see what he thinks after he's ready to give an, ahhh, opinion not dependent on the profit motive I trust you've already put a blank in there, or whatever your preferred safe procedure is, and bumped it a little on the floor to see if the safety and sear are still doing their job.This message has been edited. Last edited by: swschrad, sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money? | ||||
yea, safety first. i tore it down remo0ved all the metal parts. nothing but wood i sanded with oooo.then prep and stained i want to weatherise the stain job i guess tung oil it is..thanks frodoThis message has been edited. Last edited by: Frodo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1geyoxeifk0&list=TLCjiCHNF4Km-K01r9YCvOX7MfpQ97FJEt | ||||
you have a 70 year old gun that probably has some collector value. If you refinish it , the value will drop to zip. The problem with many antiques is that people feel that if they get it to look like new, it will increase the value, when the opposite is the truth. I would take the gun to an antique arms dealer and see what he offers you for it, then take the money and buy a modern rifle I did a search for your model gun and found that its value is quite high. for instance: a remington 03a3 asking price is $1300 and a Smith-Corona $800 there are others , all in the same price range I hope you didnt ruin the value of the gun by what you already have doneThis message has been edited. Last edited by: nona, | ||||
it also has some hunting value, and we don't know what frodo had in mind. my dad had an old Walther P38 9mm war souvenir, probably from an SS camp guard. had an antique dealer look at it, late model from Polish or Czech occupation factory, he could tell at a glance from the level of the finish. so there's no loss in cleaning that one up to preserve it. I was also told it was the German equivalent of a belly gun, sandbag test missed the target wide and random on the 3 he had bought at 50 feet. sig: if this is a new economy, how come they still want my old-fashioned money? | ||||
no didnt ruin it a bit. what i did was sand only the top coat of stain and grime off leaving [worked teadisley around] the military stamps and cartouches leaving the old character dings and dents 0000 steel wool, like a babbies butt prestained with minwax pre treatment then a coat of minwax jacobbean stain it looks like it was never touched, but was cleaned up then, this is where your gonna flip out i used veg oil on the wood to make it water resistant i learned this trick from the phillipinos in the Pi when i was over there. they use tobacco as stain and cocanut oil to weatherise the end product was a deep red wood looking colar just like armory did 70 years ago the value has not been harmed. appraised at $1200.00 by a gunsmith, and insuredThis message has been edited. Last edited by: Frodo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1geyoxeifk0&list=TLCjiCHNF4Km-K01r9YCvOX7MfpQ97FJEt | ||||
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Hey Frodo, Just a thought. If you have a project like this in the future you might consider using mineral oil (sold at pharm as a laxitive) instead of vegetable oil. Sometimes the vegetable oil can turn rancid and spoil your project. Kathy | ||||
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Tung oil, linseed oil or mineral oil. Vegetable oil will get gummy and rancid over time. | ||||
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