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Pam Grier Movies
The reigning queen of the 1970s blaxploitation genre,
Pam Grier
was born May 26, 1949, in Winston-Salem, NC. An Air Force mechanic's daughter, she was raised on military bases in England and Germany. During her teen years the family settled in Denver, CO, where at the age of 18, Grier entered the Miss Colorado Universe pageant. Named first runner-up, she attracted the attention of Hollywood agent David Baumgarten, who signed her to a contract. After relocating to Los Angeles, Grier struggled to mount an acting career, and worked as a switchboard operator at the studios of
Roger Corman
's American International Pictures. Finally, with Corman's aid, she made her film debut in the 1970
Russ Meyer
cult classic
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
, followed by an appearance in
Jack Hill
's 1971 cheapie
The Big Doll House
For several years, Grier languished virtually unnoticed in grindhouse fare like 1971's
Women in Cages
and 1973's Arena (aka
Naked Warriors
) before winning the title role in Hill's 1973 action outing
. Playing a nurse seeking vengeance against the drug dealers responsible for her sister's descent into heroin addiction, Grier immediately rose to the forefront of the so-called "blaxploitation" genre, a group of action-adventure films aimed squarely at African-American audiences. Portraying the 1974 superheroine Foxy Brown, she became a major cult figure, as her character's fierce independence, no-nonsense attitude, and empowered spirit made her a role model for blacks and feminists alike. At the peak of her popularity, Grier even appeared on the covers of Ms. and New York magazines. Her films' often racy content also made her a sex symbol, and additionally she posed nude for the men's magazine Players.
Successive action roles as gumshoe Sheba Shayne in 1975's
Sheba, Baby
and as the titular reporter
Friday Foster
further elevated Grier's visibility, but fearing continued typecasting she shifted gears to star opposite
Richard Pryor
in the fact-based 1977 auto-racing drama
Greased Lightning
. She did not reappear onscreen for four years, resurfacing to acclaim in 1981 as a murderous prostitute in Fort Apache, the Bronx; however, no other major roles were forthcoming, and she spent much of the decade appearing on television and in straight-to-cable features. A major role in the 1988
Steven Seagal
action hit
Above the Law
marked the beginning of a comeback, and after appearing in 1993's
, Grier starred with fellow blaxploitation vets
Jim Brown
Richard Roundtree
, and Fred "the Hammer" Williamson in 1996's
Original Gangstas
, a throwback to the films of the early '70s.
In 1997, the actress' career resurgence was complete with the title role in
Jackie Brown
, written in her honor by director and longtime fan
Quentin Tarantino
. Grier's tough, sexy portrayal of a jaded flight attendant earned praise from critics far and wide, as well as the promise of steady work. She could subsequently be seen in a consistently wide range of films, like
Holy Smoke
(1999), The Invited, and Larry Crowne, in addition to a host of successful TV roles on shows like Smallville and The L Word. ~ Jason Ankeny, Rovi
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Stand Alone
In an "urban cowboy" story, a father decides to take a stand against neighborhood gangsters even at risk to his life. After Louis Thibadeau (Charles Durning) witnesses a gangland-style execution he agrees to help the police nail and jail the murderers, knowing full well the gangsters will not idly sit back and allow him to testify. When a female lawyer friend (Pam Grier) runs across one of the hoodlums in a court case, she warns Louis that he doesn't stand a chance of collecting social security at the moment. Louis sends his children away for the duration and digs out his supply of weapons from his days as a Marine, waiting at home for the assault to come. Following more or less the same build-up as Straw Dogs, this is a milder version of the same theme. ~ Eleanor Mannikka, Rovi
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On the Edge
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Looking none the worse for his age, Bruce Dern convincingly plays an amateur long-distance runner in On the Edge. Banned from American competition for violating his amateur status, Dern decides to prove he's still got what it takes. The middle-aged athlete enters the grueling Cielo Sea race, which has defeated many a man and woman half Dern's age. Our hero's obsession allows him to touch bases again with his former lover Pam Grier, his alienated father Bill Bailey, and his onetime trainer John Marley. It's Rocky for the rocking-chair set, but On the Edge is contagious in its euphoria. ~ Hal Erickson, Rovi
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Tough Enough
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In this sports-oriented drama, Art Long (Dennis Quaid), a loser as a country singer, starts competing in local fist-fight matches in order to bring home a little extra cash -- and is caught up in his successes enough to continue on to the big national finals. Predictable from the first round onwards, Long is supported by his wife (Carlene Watkins), his father (Wilford Brimley), his mother (Fran Ryan), his friends, his fight promoter (Warren Oates) and just about everyone except his opponents in the ring. ~ Eleanor Mannikka, Rovi
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Something Wicked This Way Comes
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After a carnival comes to Green Town, the good citizens are compelled to follow their deepest desires, caught under the spell of the malevolent Dr. Dark (Jonathan Pryce) who can grant those desires on one condition: that the grantees will forever join his freak show. Dr. Dark is after two young boys from the town in particular, while others in the town would certainly be easy marks. The sour-faced, older schoolteacher (Mary Grace Canfield) wants to be a seductive young woman, Ed the bartender (James Stacy) would like to regain his lost left arm and leg, and the librarian (Jason Robards) worries about a wasted life spent only in books. As Dr. Dark works his own brand of voodoo, the citizens and the two boys -- as well as the whole carnival itself -- approach a final reckoning. Something Wicked This Way Comes was based on a Ray Bradbury novel. ~ Eleanor Mannikka, Rovi
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Fort Apache, the Bronx
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Paul Newman stars as an essentially decent cop patrolling that decimated, drug-and-gang-ridden borough known on the city maps as the Bronx, but known to its denizens as "Fort Apache". While Newman tries to hold on to his basic humanity and to treat even the sorriest of the people on his beat with dignity, he can't do much to convince his superiors that blind brutality is not the answer to social blight. When he witnesses fellow-cop Danny Aiello cold-bloodedly murdering a crime suspect, Newman is advised to sweep the whole incident under the rug. He refuses to do so, and as a result becomes "persona non grata" to his former friends on the force. Ed Asner co-stars as the beleaguered captain who has given up trying to treat his job as anything but a necessary evil, while Rachel Ticotin is Newman's love interest. ~ Hal Erickson, Rovi
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Roots: The Next Generations
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The phenomenal success of the 1977 ABC miniseries Roots all but demanded a sequel to writer Alex Haley's epic story of his African and African-American forebears. Debuting February 18, 1979, Roots: The Next Generations picked up where its predecessor left off, with Haley's slave ancestors winning their freedom in the aftermath of the Civil War. Even so, life for black Americans was wrought with hardship and oppression thanks to the rise of the Ku Klux Klan, the staunch refusal of the white power structure to pass anti-lynching laws, and the formation of the dreaded Jim Crow laws which legalized racial segregation in the South (and much of the North). Covering the period from 1882 to the mid-1970s, the miniseries first focuses on blacksmith Tom Harvey (Georg Stanford Brown), great-grandson of Kunta Kinte (the protagonist of the original Roots), and his family. Meanwhile, reacting to the marriage of his son to a black woman, anal-retentive Southern colonel Warner (Henry Fonda) begins setting the legal wheels in motion to deny blacks like Tom the right to vote and to hold "white" jobs. A few decades later, Tom's son-in-law encourages his fellow blacks to stand firm against the KKK's reign of terror. His labors on behalf of his race are rewarded when his daughter Bertha (Irene Cara) becomes the first descendant of Kunta Kinte to receive a college education. It is Bertha Palmer who weds the equally ambitious Simon Haley (Dorian Harewood), who goes on to serve in WWI and to organize farmers and sharecroppers during the Depression. Simon's son Alex (played at various ages by Kristoff St. John, Damon Evans, and finally James Earl Jones) is just as determined to succeed in a white man's world as his father, and to that end becomes a professional writer after his own service stint in the Coast Guard during WWII. At the height of his professional success (largely due to his having ghost-written the autobiography of Muslim activist Malcolm X), Alex Haley pays a visit to his boyhood hometown -- where, almost by accident, he receives the first clue to his heritage, a clue that will lead him on an odyssey of self-discovery, arriving full circle at Kunta Kinte's birthplace in Africa. Although the miniseries' "money scene" was Haley's nervous interview with American Nazi Party leader George Lincoln Rockwell (Marlon Brando in a superb cameo turn), the climactic episode, in which Haley tearfully embraces the living African descendants of Kunta Kinte, is one of the most unforgettable moments in the history of network television. Running 12 episodes and 14 hours, Roots: The Next Generations concluded on February 25, 1979, playing to huge ratings all along the way and ultimately garnering several Emmy nominations (and one win). ~ Hal Erickson, Rovi
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Greased Lightning
Based on the life story of NASCAR auto racing champion Wendell Scott, this film, starring Richard Pryor as Scott, covers his struggles -- from the end of World War II to 1971-- to overcome racism and gain the freedom to demonstrate his winning auto-racing skills to everyone. He is not without support: he has Mary Jones (Pam Grier), his loving wife, a sense of humor, and quite a few good friends, including the white race-car driver Hutch (Beau Bridges). Filmed in the Atlanta area, this movie features performances by folksinger Richie Havens, Julian Bond (later a Congressman), and Maynard Jackson (at one time Atlanta's mayor). ~ Clarke Fountain, Rovi
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It is hard to get more deliriously fever-pitched than the ending of Mandingo -- in which a plantation master is shot and his main slave gets boiled in oil -- but Drum (Mandingo's mangy sequel) certainly tries. Hammond Maxwell (Warren Oates), the late slave-owner's son (from Mandingo), is trying to follow in his father's footsteps and purchases Drum (Ken Norton) and Blaise (Yaphet Kotto) from bordello hostess Marianna (Isela Vega). Marianna is actually Drum's mother, although her lesbian lover Rachel (Paula Kelly) in fact brought up the boy. Thrown into the package to Hammond is Drum's girlfriend Regine (Pam Grier), who was purchased to satisfy the carnal urges of Mr. Hammond. However, Augusta Chauvet (Fiona Lewis), setting her sites on Hammond, has other plans. Drum is such a perfect specimen of slave that neither men nor women can keep their hands off of him. Drum looks stoic until a climactic slave revolt breaks out, guaranteeing more blood and carnage than Mandingo could ever hope to provide. ~ Paul Brenner, Rovi
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A man moves to the small and racially divided town where his bar-owning brother was murdered after he refused to pay crooked white cops for "protection." When he is threatened himself, he calls in some hefty men to help him, but they instead decide to take over the town. In order to oust the baddies, the hero becomes a one-man army with a mission. This blaxploitationer features the action hero, Fred Williamson. ~ Kristie Hassen, Rovi
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Sheba, Baby
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After a series of violent, sexy blaxploitation films like Coffy and Foxy Brown, Pam Grier returned in this more sedate PG-rated actioner. Grier plays Chicago P.I. Sheba Shayne, who returns to her hometown of Louisville, Kentucky to save her father's loan business from vicious gangsters. Austin Stoker co-stars with D'Urville Martin (Dolemite) and Charles Kissinger, who appeared in all of director William Girdler's films. Highlights include a chase through a carnival funhouse, but without the usual exploitation elements, there's little to recommend this film except for Grier completists. ~ Robert Firsching, Rovi
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Friday Foster
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A woman looking for adventure finds romance, excitement and danger in her viewfinder in this action-packed comedy-drama. Friday Foster (Pam Grier) is a beautiful and ambitious young photographer who is working as an assistant at Glance Magazine, edited by the hard-boiled Monk Riley (Julius Harris). When Riley can't get in touch with his first-call photographer, he calls Foster with a very important New Year's Eve assignment -- reclusive billionaire Blake Tarr (Thalmus Rasulala), often called "the black Howard Hughes," is expected to be coming to Los Angeles, and Riley wants pictures of Tarr's arrival. But Foster gets more than she bargained for when Tarr is ambushed by a gang of assassins disguised as security guards. The next day, Foster is helping to shoot a fashion show introducing new creations from flamboyant designer Madame Rena (Eartha Kitt) when Clorils Boston (Rosalind Miles), a model who has known Friday since childhood, is stabled to death. Colt Hawkins (Yaphet Kotto), a private detective who is on the scene, offers to help Friday track down Clorils' killer after she notices that the same mysterious man (Carl Weathers) was present at both crimes. Foster and Hawkins discover the two killings are connected by a plot hatched by an underground group called "Black Widow" to kill off powerful and influential African-Americans. But who is behind the conspiracy, and can they be stopped in time? Also starring Godfrey Cambridge, Paul Benjamin, Scatman Crothers and Ted Lange, Friday Foster was based on the comic strip by Jim Lawrence and Jorge Longeron; running from 1970 to 1974, it was the first syndicated strip with an African-American woman as the leading character. ~ Mark Deming, Rovi
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Foxy Brown
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Blaxploitation icon Pam Grier stars as Foxy Brown, a sexy but streetwise woman whose ne'er-do-well brother Link (Antonio Fargas) is a drug dealer who owes mobsters 20,000 dollars. To get the hoods off his back, Link names Foxy's boyfriend as a government agent trying to wipe out organized crime, and the mob soon has him rubbed out. But Hell hath no fury like Foxy Brown scorned; posing as a hooker to get the inside scoop on the mob, she goes on a crusade to find out who murdered her man, and she exacts revenge with the help of a local activist group. The supporting cast includes cult figure Sid Haig as a bad guy (as usual) and Peter Brown and Kathryn Loder as a seriously kinky couple who rule the local mob. ~ Mark Deming, Rovi
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The Arena
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Pam Grier and Margaret Markov reteamed a year after Black Mama, White Mama for this similarly crowd-pleasing exploitation effort. They play Roman slaves who eventually rebel against their male oppressors. Mixing elements from the Italian peplum and the Filipino women's prison movies, The Arena also adds some po-faced feminist theory while still managing to exploit its scantily-clad stars. Italian film regulars Lucretia Love and Rosalba Neri look strangely out of place in a movie filmed in their own country, but fans of drive-in movies should be pleased. ~ Robert Firsching, Rovi
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Writer-director Jack Hill (Spider Baby, Switchblade Sisters) managed to beat Death Wish to the screens by a year with this violent tale of a citizen touched by crime and deciding to fight back. Her little 11-year old sister is a hopeless addict, the police can't help, and poor Nurse "Coffy" Coffin (Pam Grier) has no choice but to take the law into her own hands. Posing as a Jamaican prostitute, Coffy infiltrates the lairs of pimp King George (Robert DoQui) and kingpin pusher Vitroni (Allan Arbus). Eventually, after her childhood sweetheart is beaten into a coma and she finds out her politician-lover (Booker Bradshaw) is involved, Coffy kills everyone with a shotgun. However, by having a black woman named Coffy get injected with a sugar mixture (the crooks think it's heroin), one can only imagine the filmmakers cackling about Coffy with cream and sugar. In fact, the original ad line promised "Coffy...she'll cream you!" ~ Robert Firsching, Rovi
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Black Mama, White Mama
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Two female prisoners, one black and one white attempt to escape a women's reformatory in this violent exploitation film that is a cheap knock- off of The Defiant Ones. The black woman is in for prostitution while her blonde counterpart was involved with a radical group. They escape after lesbian guards make passes at them. Though chained together, the two manage to make their way through the Filipino jungle to a camp filled with revolutionaries and drug smugglers. There more action ensues as the crooks engage in a climactic battle with a crooked cop. ~ Sandra Brennan, Rovi
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Scream, Blacula, Scream!
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In this horror sequel from the director of Count Yorga, Vampire, a member of an American voodoo cult revives the fanged Prince Manuwalde (William Marshall), only to become his slave. Manuwalde then puts the bite on various victims, but finds himself fixating on pretty Lisa (Pam Grier), a voodoo princess whom he believes can finally put his soul to rest. Lynne Moody, Nicholas Worth, and Bernie Hamilton are among the familiar cast, but the various occult trappings seem somewhat out of place in the modern Los Angeles setting and the production values are pretty shabby. Blaxploitation and camp fans should still find it mildly amusing, however, and Shakespearean actor Marshall is a lot of fun as the obsessive vampire. ~ Robert Firsching, Rovi
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Hit Man
Featuring an all-African American cast, this crime drama is basically a retread of the movie Get Carter. It is the story of a former football player who has become involved with pornographers and seeks revenge upon the gangster who killed his brother, who in turn was out to avenge the rape of his daughter. ~ Sandra Brennan, Rovi
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Cool Breeze
This is a remake of The Asphalt Jungle with an all black cast. In it a paroled convict plans to steal $3 million work of jewels, sell them, and use the bread to start a bank to back black businesses. He is assisted by two pals, his half-brother, and a preacher who also works as a thief. The operation is ultimately backed by a man who cheats on his wheelchair-bound wife with a sexy woman. ~ Sandra Brennan, Rovi
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Twilight People
Dashing adventurer Matt Farrell (John Ashley) is captured and taken to a remote island in the South Pacific, where he is meant to become the newest victim of Dr. Gordon (Charles Macaulay), a mad scientist who is crossing humans and animals in an attempt to create a race of "superbeings." The doctor's daughter, Neva (Patricia Woodell), is assisting in the nefarious experiments, though she has begun to doubt the legitimacy of her father's scientific work. Gordon's main henchman, Steinman (Jan Merlin), would like nothing more for Farrell to escape, as he views the handsome captive as a worthy adversary and longs to track him through the jungle as human prey. When Neva falls in love with Farrell, she betrays her father and frees him, fleeing with a group of Gordon's experiments, bestial homo sapiens who have been crossed with bats, panthers, antelopes, and other animals. Meanwhile, Farrell captures the doctor and makes his way through the jungle to meet up with Neva on the island's dock, where they intend to make their way to freedom. ~ Fred Beldin, Rovi
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Twighlight People
John Ashley stars in Twighlight People. Eddie Romero is director of Twilight People. Applying Socratic logic, we can conclude that Twighlight People was lensed in the Philippines. And we're right; but what we don't know is why the title is mispelled (at least in many sources). Oh, the plot? A mad doctor, working on a remote tropical island, wants to create a super race of mindless zombies. Pat Woodell, who once upon a time was one of the Bradley gals on TV's Petticoat Junction, costars. ~ Hal Erickson, Rovi
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The Big Bird Cage
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In this exploitative women's prison drama, the "birds" in "the big bird cage" are, clearly, women. With the help of an outside revolutionary, the girls of at a rural prison stage an escape attempt. They have little to lose, as the prison is a site of incredible decadence and brutality. Only two of the covey of beautiful young women prisoners survive the attempt. ~ Clarke Fountain, Rovi
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Women in Cages
In this prison melodrama set in a women's reformatory, a sadistic lesbian guard takes great pleasure in tormenting her inmates in the grim confines of "The Playpen." The film is called Women's Penitentiary III on video. ~ Sandra Brennan, Rovi
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Big Doll House
Jack Hill directed this alternately brutal and campy look at desperate women behind bars. An American named Collier (Judy Brown) has been convicted of murder in the Philippines and is sentenced to a grim women's prison in the jungle, where a mysterious German woman, Miss Deitrich (Christiane Schmidtmer), is the warden, and her head guard, sadistic Lucian (Katheryn Loder), keeps her charges in line through intimidation and violence. Collier shares a cell with tough-talking bisexual prostitute Grear (Pam Grier), hard-boiled political prisoner Bodine (Pat Woodell), thick-skinned but good-humored Alcott (Roberta Collins), drug-addicted Harrad (Brooke Mills), and tight-lipped Ferina (Gina Stuart). Bodine's boyfriend is the leader of an underground revolutionary faction, and when she learns he and his comrades are in danger, she begins to plot an escape for herself and her cellmates, with travelling peddlers Harry (Sid Haig) and Fred (Jerry Frank) becoming her unwitting collaborators. Meanwhile, Lucian is stepping up her torture of the prisoners at the behest of a mysterious masked stranger, and Collier is determined to find out who is behind the systematic brutality. The Big Doll House was the first "Women In Prison" exploitation epic produced for Roger Corman's New World Pictures; it was a big hit on the dive-in and grind house circuit, and spawned dozens of imitations (which are still being produced today). By the way, that's Pam Grier singing the theme song! ~ Mark Deming, Rovi
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Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
After nearly a decade as one of America's most successful independent filmmakers, legendary sexploitation auteur Russ Meyer first reached out for the brass ring of major studio success with this frantic cult favorite, once described by Meyer and screenwriter Roger Ebert as "the first exploitation-horror-camp-musical." Kelly McNamara (Dolly Read), Casey Anderson (Cynthia Myers), and Petronella Danforth (Marcia McBroom) are the three members of an all-girl rock band called "the Kelly Affair" who pull up stakes for Hollywood in search of stardom; they're accompanied by their manager, Harris Allsworth (David Gurian), who also happens to be Kelly's boyfriend. Kelly has an aunt in Hollywood, fashion mogul Susan Lake (Phyllis Davis), who takes Kelly under her wing and informs her she's entitled to a share of a recent family inheritance, much to the chagrin of Susan's lawyer, the shifty Porter Hall (Duncan McLeod). Susan arranges for Kelly and her bandmates to attend a wild party thrown by Ronnie "Z-Man" Barzell (John La Zar), a flamboyant and very successful record producer; Z-Man renames the band "the Carrie Nations," signs them to a record deal, and they're one of the biggest acts in America practically overnight. However, Harris is pushed out of the picture as the band's manager by Z-Man, and as Kelly's boyfriend by actor and gigolo Lance Rocke (Michael Blodgett), sending Harris into a deep depression even after he becomes the new boy-toy of adult film star Ashley St. Ives (Edy Williams). Meanwhile, Petronella finds love with law student Emerson Thorne (Harrison Page) until her head is turned by heavyweight boxing champion Randy Black (Jim Iglehart), and Casey explores her sexual boundaries with Roxanne (Erica Gavin), a beautiful lesbian designer. This nonstop train of decadence, drugs, and betrayal finally comes off the rails during a drug-fueled orgy at Z-Man's mansion, which erupts into violence when the rock mogul's darkest secret is revealed. Featuring one-hit wonders the Strawberry Alarm Clock, supporting performances by Meyer regulars Charles Napier and Haji, and a bit part from future blaxploitation icon Pam Grier, Beyond the Valley of the Dolls proved to be Meyer's biggest box-office success, though after his next film (The Seven Minutes) bombed at the box office, he returned to independent production in 1973. ~ Mark Deming, Rovi
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Electing Speaker of the House, how 'fiscal cliff' bill affects your paycheck and is the White House really cutting spending?
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Was New Jersey governor Chris Christie blaming John Boehner speaker of the house by name for the continuing suffering of the victims of hurricanes in the and this is power play I am Chris Farrell and if you wonder why John Boehner cries so much today would be a -- maybe he would be allowed to shed a few tears not only does he -- conservative groups calling for his ouster -- speaker of the house when the vote takes place this afternoon but Republicans from the north east.
And states that were hit hard by -- super storm.
Hard denouncing him and is -- leaders in the Republican House.
For allowing a bill that was out of the senate -- sixty billion dollar aid package that had some stuff that was made in that to die.
On the on the at the end of the previous congress and all of that stuff so John Boehner -- gonna make the cut.
Will he stay on -- speaker we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about how you -- paycheck might look this week or next week -- now that everybody's taxes.
Have gone up.
And we will talk about the possibility of real spending cuts in the future -- say they can do that can they really.
We will do that all with the help of Steve pays because you are lucky and because -- -- starting the new Europe right Steve Hayes of course is senior writer for the weekly standard.
And and admired friend -- this Internet telecast Steve welcome those are happy new year to okay.
Let us now won't let us find out somebody who knows what is going to happen today.
And we'll talk to congressman Thomas Massie.
Represents the first district of the commonwealth of Kentucky congressman welcome.
Thank you could be here.
We'll see we'll see if that holds now the question is.
There's going to be a vote for the speakership of the house this afternoon it's the first order of business for you guys today.
Is speaker Boehner going to be reelected.
We won't have to wait long to find out little or no it's we're getting there but we let the Internet likes to know before everybody else you can tell that her ex.
Well you know there is a lot of dissatisfaction with the way the last vote went down.
How we more or less capitulated to Pelosi and Reid and Obama.
In that there was not a majority of Republicans who voted for that -- so there's a lot of dissatisfaction there.
There's still some dissatisfaction about the floor conservative members who were removed from their communities.
Really -- it was a way in which hit it -- down.
That really upset some people which you know there was no warning there was no indication.
And then some this just aren't satisfied with the way the negotiations have gone.
Now what the speaker saying and talking to some of your colleagues what we've cleaned.
Is that speaker -- that that was sort of a one time deal that yes.
They suspended regular order they did it -- what.
The Republican leaders acknowledges the wrong way.
Just to get through this tax issue.
But as he did on hurricane CD.
And promises to do going forward that he goes back to regular order and goes back to letting -- as he likes to say that -- work its will.
Is that -- do you do you take him at his word on that.
It was a matter of fact regular order was broken or suspended windy I tried to vote for plan B -- -- have three days to look at -- bill.
As far as you know next time -- we gonna do something differently I feel like we're in ground the movie Groundhog Day -- every time.
The debt ceiling negotiation comes for a budget negotiation comes up for this latest a manufacturing prices came out.
You know it's like well we'll dig in next time we'll get some spending cuts next time.
And really that's what we need to be talking about across the country you realize it's the fiscal Clift the so called fiscal cliff.
Had occurred.
There would be 500 billion dollars of taxes on everybody even the -- it would be tax.
That you realize that the most heinous tax that we can ever imagine on everybody still wouldn't balance the budget.
Do we -- even come close we still would head over half a trillion dollars Baghdad.
So what we need to get whether it's in a debt ceiling negotiation whether some continuing resolution whether it's over the -- -- which it.
Unfortunately they keep down the road for two months what.
Would -- the negotiation is Republicans need to get spending cuts.
It's it's critical to our country.
All right last question.
Yeah -- any final deal.
That you voted against.
On the taxes from was that engineered by another Kentucky and in part Mitch McConnell the senate majority minority leader.
The Vice President Biden.
I noticed that it's reelection -- -- were senator McConnell do you think that's gonna cause him any trouble in the Republican primary -- Kentucky.
-- I don't think he's gonna have trouble in the Republican primary is race so that begins the Democrat I think you can tacky Kentucky's he needs say.
We -- so instead of politics we have Democrat state officers for the most part.
So it's just it's hard to translate what's going on in DC -- -- tacky.
You know -- we all are talking about senators I'd like to point out there.
My favorite senator Rand Paul voted.
Against the the senate bill.
And I was.
Unfortunately surprise to see that some of the conservative senators did not vote against the bill I don't know where.
Tom Coburn was on that.
And you know these are guys that know we need -- spending in this bill increased spending so you know there was some winners and some losers in -- senate side there.
Yeah thank you if you lived in Campbell -- he had -- home already but if you don't that's congressman Thomas Massie from Kentucky we thank you.
Thank you.
-- Steve Hayes John Boehner was talking to -- firm today -- are senior producer over on over on.
Congress those guys.
And -- -- said mister speaker and he consternation any concern about the vote today and I was like noted it's cool side.
So Boehner is fine right that is do you think he's on of these front although you know I wouldn't expect -- is the question any other way to remedy -- good -- -- -- voter -- -- a -- suppose there's no way out of this I'm I'm doomed.
Now I have said I have need to.
In this -- is it is it is this.
Conservative groups today are calling for some conservative groups -- calling for secret ballot on the speakership -- -- I hate to ask you in an -- I ask you -- case.
How are people who say Tea Party kind of groups say they want more transparency in government.
Coming out in favor of secret balloting in congress now we'd like secret about Americans are big fans of secret ballots for individuals but for the government generally we don't like people.
To express their will secretly right -- it's exactly what -- from the congressman -- one in three days to look at this right does that play and he -- it.
Three days to look at.
The -- bill or the ability to pass.
But this is what the Tea Party in effect was all about and you're having these Tea Party groups and I'm certainly sympathetic to too many goals and aims -- Almost all of them.
But it said it's a bit hypocritical for them be saying.
We want a secret ballot in this one -- -- -- so that we don't that we don't we're not basically they're data wanna be subject to retribution that.
Could come if they.
Seek to oust the speaker Palestinians it is -- to -- when the Republicans came in and point and I wrote about this in the power.
Which you can get simply -- following me at -- star -- on Twitter.
You already -- -- -- as you just treat yourself to a good added starlet thanks Annan that.
And the this.
It was so successful it's beginning of his speakership because he let as the new congress on assignment regular order.
There were no sneak attacks there were no suspensions there were no things didn't happen in the dark of night it wasn't like things used to be and that's how Tom DeLay did it the Republican.
Majority leader in the -- speakership that's happening too close he did it.
Where it's like we'll tell you how to vote and we're gonna -- even with your vote in this case the -- Didn't even vote for the legislation.
But Boehner now promises.
We did this one time on the tax stuff on plan B and then on the final deal to get it through to get out from underneath -- but now we're gonna hold the line.
Does this set up before if -- does survive the fiscal -- not -- fiscal cliff the debt ceiling.
We get to the -- -- if they're serious about that he's got a he's got a conference it's going to be willing to shut the government down.
Yes I think he does have a conference that's going to -- that the government down.
And I think you probably shouldn't have -- it's it's going to be good shot at him to look at some point now I thought that ultimately this thing had passed and that that that the thing that you had people who voted no on this.
Could never answer.
Was what do you do instead right it is some peaks and everybody some people would say no let's -- let's let all of these taxes go up well let -- -- to -- it.
Because we need to feel the pain that's the argument that's the only argument -- ever nobody ever would say here's what you do instead.
It was just not a good deal was a bad situation there was no winning -- for Republicans to play.
Didn't -- the next set of negotiations different I think Republicans do have leverage their.
I think the media the argument that we've heard that the president has has really gone out after his tax increases in this first.
Set of discussions he'll have a much harder time.
Even making that argument and making implausible even to people in the press who I think are sympathetic to those kind of artists and and sympathetic to the president yet just a little -- here that he's -- his tax increase now we have to focus on spending and everybody even the press corps understands that that's the problem.
Even at the press even the press defense that's -- threshold for us and we appreciate that we like -- we like to surmount low bars that's what we're good at.
We're gonna take a quick break but when we come back will you -- -- will join us from Los Angeles and he will tell us.
What our paychecks are going to look like.
Big in small now that the fiscal cliff has bitten halfway breached and now is in the past.
What's your paycheck and look like William tell us that when we come back.
So stick around.
And that is the cast.
Of the ADC sitcom home improvements.
And that was the number one television show in America and August 10 1993.
And this is power play so why do you care about Tim Allen and the -- -- from home improvement it's because I want you to think about what a long time it's been.
Internet says there was a tax increase.
But many condos -- the Clinton taxes passed in August of 1993 since then it's been all costs.
The bush -- and even in the Obama era cuts to income taxes cuts to payroll taxes cut cut cut cut cut.
And now for the first time in a generation taxes have gone up.
So what does that mean Steve Hayes of the weekly standard will explain to you how we got here but let's figure out first where we are.
And William La Jeunesse in Los Angeles -- that William welcome.
Thank you very much Chris you know whether you -- -- not your payroll taxes are going up so how much you're gonna give you some figures here.
It you'll probably see the senior check on Friday some people next week.
Of course is -- after a two year reprieve when.
When payroll taxes were down by 2% -- they're going up.
So for single people earning about 30000 dollars year the IRS is telling -- employer.
To withhold about 5400.
Dollars a year that's up 570.
Dollars or eleven dollars a week if you earn ninety Graham.
You're gonna pay about 20000 in withholding taxes that's 2400.
More than last year if you make a 185.
The governments can withhold 50000 that's an increase of 6000.
If you make over 400.
Your taxes will increase about 270 dollars a week or.
Fourteen grand a year.
But remember these are payroll taxes the fight -- deduction on your paycheck that -- for Social Security.
And Medicare this is money that you get back it's like paying any retirement over your lifetime accorded the urban institute an average worker will pay.
But 345000.
Dollars and -- taxes they'll get back 4171000.
In benefits so Chris somebody.
Is subsidizing your retirement.
Chris now -- we see today -- that lots that.
When you're talking about above that 90000 dollars threshold when you start getting the upper income earners.
This deal has taxes for them to.
What is what is the deal mean for those hiring comers.
You know this is we've heard about the 1% and -- they don't pay their fair share -- I've got a new number for you right.
Point seven per cent.
That is the number of tax returns were going to pay.
Of this country's federal income taxes so for 1% of the country we're talking a 143.
Million tax returns.
Just one point one million of those returns.
-- seven point 7% will pay more than 40% of all federal income taxes how we getting -- that figure well we were talking basically people who.
Individuals over 400000 couples over 450000.
That is where the point 7% figure is coming from.
And about below about sixty million Americans will still have a zero or negative tax liability.
Said the 1% you're not gonna hear about the point 7% Chris.
But those folks better get busy alright William we thank you for your -- have a great day.
Steve case.
We're not in the point 7% I'm not the -- I was just I was disappointed that we didn't break down the four million annual right now and I do you write it for the west is point seven point 7%.
Now the question scheme is.
People now understand everybody's taxes did go right and everybody's taxes went up pretty considerably because weapons out of -- and if you're the median household income units 50000 dollars.
If you go down fifty bucks a week yet.
If you're gonna field you're gonna feel that right away.
In terms of the political consequence of this.
Bill Clinton didn't pay a heavy price back in the nineties when he did this because the economy he he was doing and and it ended up that -- -- incomes were growing and that fifty bucks wouldn't hurt as much.
But now win incomes have shrunk and are still shrinking in many cases that people are gonna -- People get -- feel that I think is one of the reasons that Republicans would be wise even though they did play a role in having.
For having obtained a steal and passed it would be wise to stop talking about.
Don't talk about the bush tax cuts and -- -- met him permanently there are a couple of I think not -- terribly significant but but.
You know the good things in the bill.
I would not be talking about it -- Republicans because.
It is the case that most of people who are going to be subject to these increased payroll taxes were probably paying attention to all the back and forth thing that we saw the week before.
New Year's end and certainly we are expecting to see.
-- taxes go up in the way that they are likely to so this is going to be a rude awakening for a lot of Americans.
They are going to be looking for somebody to blame Republicans don't want to -- that group they don't want to be part of that group they would like.
Those those taxpayers to blame the president -- Democrats because they've been arguing for raise taxes on the rich I think most people will say.
What -- I'm rich.
So I would -- you know -- I've heard Republicans over the past couple days to go to some Great Lakes you know extolling the virtues of this deal and I was really good because it extended the bush rates it.
-- politically I would not be making an argument for -- You know I would like Steve case -- because not only does he know about policy he's willing as we are traffic and cynical politics and we appreciate that.
The -- -- isn't anyone listening.
Yes no.
Now we get an increase on rich people we need to get the other 51%.
That are paying taxes so there is that there is there is that but a lot of those people.
The 47% to 51%.
Depending on the year that don't pay taxes -- -- -- don't pay taxes those people who don't pay income taxes isn't anyone listening.
And we are.
The payroll tax hits everybody who works a job if you were a job can get -- if you work.
Above board if you're not getting paid under the table in cash everybody pays that that's the fight attacks everybody -- that and they're all going to feel -- Fair tax -- it says I was gonna get to read the bill for three minutes before voting.
That's because nobody wanted to read it it was not something they wanted to read and that's by the way by the fact that had so much -- barge in it it had so many little.
Friendlies -- -- for people like Chris Dodd at the MPAA that did lobbying arm of the movie business and all of that stuff that's that's how it happened and that's what John -- promises.
That was a one -- thing it's not gonna happen again he promises we'll see Steve is going to stay with us against the advice of counsel and his agent.
But when we come back -- now will be here the Democrat your friend will be here and we will talk about the question of this.
Are we really talking about tax cuts is -- are spending cuts is that really possible but we will explore the question when we come back.
-- -- -- Adamantly.
The problem we have is what we've done is we've taken this four trillion dollar -- -- -- and then said we won't do it again.
Well did vote the other night was four trillion dollars of new deficit new debt as a result and then we're saying well we're not going to do this.
That was Darrell ice he was on the record with Greta Van Susteren last night.
And this is power play.
And Republicans like -- who are in leadership role saying they didn't like the tax plan that went forward he called -- -- four trillion dollars slug of -- when.
Not to not to him.
Not to be overly delicate.
And but now say the time has come that they can force the president to make cuts and their.
Good they're standing by this and they're talking of their constituents and their talking to riled up conservatives and saying now the cuts will come.
But that hasn't really happened in the past we've seen reductions in future increases we've seen all of these things were Republicans at this time.
For real they're really going to make cuts is that possible and how did what happened in this fight.
Affect the likelihood of those cuts were unlikely -- of those cuts.
Steve Hayes knows and he may actually tell us.
But who else knows is done for now whom you life.
He is a former spokesman for the and now is democratic strategist consultant kind of guy that ST Kate barker welcome -- -- with him of course.
Of course we'll see all right so the Republicans say that there really will be cuts.
And there -- willing to go to the mattresses on the debt ceiling.
So Doug is are are they really going to be able to do that -- they really going to be able to affect cuts sure.
Luckily I think so but I mean the president's already signed into law he did a trillion dollars as part of the budget control act I think they cut.
I forget that an amount but when they avoided a government shutdown.
How does it but we should -- -- those -- the reductions to two scheduled growth right those are quite -- this sequester would have been actual cuts.
That was a president to deal with -- is threatening there they're gonna.
Did you within two months.
If I step back and I look at this Ari can I literally scratch my head that Republicans.
Not I'm not speaking for -- -- I don't know his position but some Republicans -- we -- eighty or so that.
The and 980 house Republicans voted for this don't see that.
They actually did get something -- -- They they were able to protect.
For the most part almost all the bush tax cuts 789 years ago Democrats would have literally to -- off a cliff if I knew that was just under presidential democratic president.
You know I think the mistake here is that they could get a better deal.
Two weeks ago I don't really understand why they went to the plan B charade.
The president had -- for almost a trillion dollars in cuts as part of an offer to Boehner that he walked away from.
I think that's going to be one of -- missed opportunities that Republicans on capitol long term yes absolutely I think Democrats I mean look there's a trillion dollars in cuts that are sitting on the table we're part of that could have been part of this deal that I think Republicans are gonna try to.
Force the issue on and I you know my sense is that Democrats are probably are you know they were willing to do it -- president was willing to do it to three weeks ago I imagine that.
They'll be some concessions on the it may be on capping deductions or some other things that -- you.
-- -- Yep really cuts I think Doug is is right I mean.
Yes some of whom will be real cuts alone and some of them -- phony cuts and that's the nature it's Washington where we live Washington cutting.
But I I do think that the fact that the president had that they had these conversations not just once but really twice and in theory.
They've had these conversations about some cuts and things that people can just generally agree.
I don't think those the kinds of cuts -- reforms that we need to to turn around our debt trajectory right but there will probably be cuts I don't know that I -- I would imagine the president will go to great lengths to avoid.
Sounding like he's.
Giving these cuts in response to threats on the debt -- He's been very clear he's not negotiating on the debt ceiling is not now of course in this in this package that he just -- -- -- I will not sign anything.
That doesn't include a debt ceiling hike in -- this didn't include yes right right any -- it.
So there's a little -- give on that but I think having gone out as far as he has rhetorically he's going to be -- to -- Up here as though he's giving in to threats and that's what.
And outlook for the -- Boehner.
To survive he has had -- if if he's going to survive said -- members that he's gonna take a theory tough line on the debt ceiling and everything else.
What happens there.
I think that we may be back in the same position in two months I fear that I think that you know look if that I think John Boehner.
-- did actually.
A pretty good job -- the positions in.
He was up against it.
And he has title that's gonna help -- wasn't used to say that a lot that's gonna help but you know this.
That's probably right -- right well it was a very you know look I I -- great X and I.
Look I think he made a lot of -- -- some strategic errors that will come back to haunt him.
But my sense is that you know -- probably try to -- debt ceiling.
Once again I don't think that's probably.
The healthiest way to do this but that's their leverage right now.
It's not much else that house Republicans.
That's going to be nasty that this was -- Steve we thank you -- it always is with them is always nice with -- that we thank you very much -- miraculous today okay.
So now to take care.
Of some business.
-- -- is and after Jonathan Hunt on the hunt today so -- like that that's something to look forward to starting at noon eastern.
But before we get to our friend Charles how about some -- -- your first power points -- 2013.
Our points today that sausage bad sausage are -- are points today but first -- PowerPoint Hollywood NASCAR.
Algae and electric motorcycles.
Those are some of the things that got my sees little -- -- of goodness and tax Extenders and help.
Indeed bill that averted the fiscal left and that got in their.
Why because of the second point it was out of order when you do legislation at the end of the year in the last minute to waste stuff gets done.
It is that people sort of turn their head and cough wow the legislation is put together it gets done and people just hope that they don't have to see it while it goes on.
That's not cool -- from the mindset of good government advocates left and right this is a bipartisan issue this is not something.
That is just the Tea Party concerned this is something that conscientious liberals and conscientious conservatives believe needs to be done in congress which is regular order things have to happen in the way with transparency.
So that you can see them done.
That's not how this happened and how -- acknowledges that it's harder for the speaker or anybody else.
When you get down to the end when you're doing something this complicated and under the gone to do it the right way but.
They should think about this number three bad for the brand it's bad for the Republican brand which it has taken a boost from being the party in favor of good government and more transparency that's been helpful to a party that used to be seen as secretive nixonian etc.
it's been good for them they probably if they wanna get reelected to get back to -- so those -- your power points.
And now we like to do every day we want to leave you with the word from our French -- -- there's.
There's the process which is insane.
-- you know.
Twenty years ago that this is sort of this would have been a huge bill the idea you should be passed the middle of the night.
We know debate -- was no regular order simply because.
People from wind -- part of the country are demanding it.
I think he's insane.
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Thank you for the welcome. I am really interested in trying to set up a Ning Powered Network, and wondered if you had a role in building up the this social network. Would really like to talk to the developer and ask a bunch of questions. I need to build a site, and trying to research the capabilities and understand Ning's platform a bit better. If anyone can help, I'd be most grateful, to have a chat. Thanks again. Best- RR
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'Apart from the voice not working well......' And its running flawlessly is it?? Bit of a contradiction there fella.
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14-12-2011 12:28 PM - edited 14-12-2011 12:35 PM
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Unfortunately its not the minority experiencing the issue. Its a major factor and as I mentioned before seasoned well respected BF players who are playing across 3 platforms only have issues with the PS3 version. I anoint gonna apologise to all the fanboys here for daring to criticise the PS3 build but the fact remains there is an issue on PS3 that isn't present on either XBOX or PC. The OP deserves to be told of issues surrounding the game. A lot of players are compensating for the input lag but there is still a well documented problem with this version. As I said AVOID for now until they sort it.
These forums aren't just or blowing smoke up Sonys 7$$.
Your wrong. If you look on battlelog forums, this problem is also on 360. Not as wide spread as the PS3, but it is a problem on 360.
The thing with 360 is, them guys have party chat which works a treat. I'd say the majority of people are using the party chat while playing the game, instead of squad chat. The PS3 hasn't got a work around.
Input lag is only happening to a handful of people I think, or so DICE say. It's basically a delay between when you move the analogue sticks, & when your character moves on the screen. I'm not sure how to describe.
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on 14-12-2011 12:54 PM
WESTIE_UK wrote:only problem i have every had was the rubber banding which has now for me been fixed...
everything else is perfect in my eyes...
the occasional problems others are having, may be internet, console or hardware related...
im no expert, but its what i assume!
I think people over react a lot. Like if the animation doesnt work for reloading a gun just once they will head over here and comment
"OMG this game is a Aplha Build"
"Im trading this shoddy piece of cr**"
"The games lag is unbeleiveable"
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
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To answer the original posters question. I've just seen on the PS Blog that the physical warfare pack will be added to the store today..At the minute, it looks like its free, as I don't see a price attached to it. But still, could be a surprise cost when you actually go to buy it.
Yup, just confirming the physical warfare pack will be free.
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Good-bye, Oracle: XML coauthor Timothy William Bray did well to control his anger toward the new Sun owners and accepted a job at Google -- raving about Android.
"I'd had an offer to stay with Oracle which I decided to decline; I'll maybe tell the story when I can think about it without getting that weird spiking-blood-pressure sensation in my eyeballs," the Canadian explained about his farewell from Oracle.
Bray had been at Sun since 2004 as an XML expert and worked on the initial XML 1.0 standard since 1994. He has held a leading position in the software segment of Web technology.
The overlap of Web technology with open source ultimately motivated him to pursue work with Google, where he will likely have something to do with Android. One of his favorite targets is Apple: "The iPhone vision of the mobile Internet's future omits controversy, sex, and freedom, but includes strict limits on who can know what and who can say what. It's a sterile Disney-fied walled garden surrounded by sharp-toothed lawyers.... I hate it." Bray is counting on Google and the Android to set it right. He feels that Apple apparently thinks it can benefit from the Web while controlling which programs to run on it "and what parts of the stack can be accessed." He continues, "I think they're wrong and see this job as a chance to help prove it."
The 54-year-old is especially interested in apps development on Android, Web standards like HTML 5 and the Android market. He addresses the community with, "Are you an Android developer? Or might you become one? Or have you given up on Android? If you're any of these, you're a person I need to learn from. Help teach me, I'm easy to find: twbray at google.com."
Not to say that Bray will work exclusively on Android, as the new Google "Developer Advocate" himself admits. He apparently does enjoy the opportunity nonetheless. Google will probably mean some getting used to. He made clear in his announcement blog that he didn't want to be silenced: "Google asked to see an advance draft of the piece you're now reading 'for coordinating messaging', but didn't suggest any changes."
Google is a pretty good place to be
Google, eh. That's a pretty good place to be. Companies are like beer: right ingredients in the right amount at the right time at the right temperature make for a fantastic experience. Get them a little wrong and not so fantastic. Looking forward to Tim's contributions to Android. I've been an avid reader of his blog and I'm very happy for him.
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A colleague of mine often refers to opinions as being like sphincters – everyone has one. Get road riding fans on to the subject of Lance Armstrong and the same is true (about the opinions, obviously, not so much the sphincters). It's a debate that ranges from the most serious accusations of cheating to blind reverence.
Here is a rider who fought cancer and then won not one, two, three or four Tours de France, but seven. Fausto Coppi only managed it twice. Here is a rider who represents the consummate professional. Always meticulously well prepared, a professional who took his work hours very seriously indeed. No mechanicals, no missed feed zones (well, maybe one or two), very aware, riding state-of-the-art frames and knowing more about his rivals than they knew about themselves. The modern, automaton bike racer. But these days no one ever seems to talk about that.
There is a cliché in sport: "don't hate the player, hate the game." Yet the argument that Lance was bad for the sport is a tenuous one. The 'Lance effect' raised the profile of modern cycle racing to an entirely new level, both in terms of global reach and mainstream appeal. If that's a bad thing, then tell that to the bike industry.
And while we've seen a good deal of 'sportsmanship' from him concerning peeing into containers and so forth, if you look at many of his successful predecessors – Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault or Indurain – they all display similar characteristics, that obsessive drive to beat the competition, to win at any cost. Indurain, in particular, set the precedent for training for one goal – the Tour – identifying it as the prize that everyone, from the sponsors to your own grandmother, wants you to win.
There are, of course, more appealing characters within road riding's dramatis personae: the idiosyncratic geniuses, the underdogs and mavericks; think Poulidor, Fuente, LeMond, Chiappucci or Pantani. Yet who's to say that Armstrong isn't a genius either?
As for my own opinion of Mr Armstrong, it's hard not to sit on the fence. I don't particularly like him as a bike racer, nor as a politician, but then I don't particularly dislike him either. I do know that I'd rather watch clips of 'Elefantino' climbing, or look at photographs of Jan Ulrich drinking beer, than relive any of Armstrong's victories. Yet I also know that, like Merckx and Indurain, both of whom turned the races they dominated into boring spectacles (unless you enjoy watching time trials), Lance Armstrong knew how to win.
Mark Oliver
13th June 2012 10:58pm
Steve Seamark
14th June 2012 09:13am
Strange how these stories always surface just before the Tour, when they have whole rest of the year to release details.
I'm Joe and pretty ambivalent to Lance either way, and you make some valid points Joe.
What does frustrate me is the general cycling media hounding of Mr Armstrong and his 'presumed' guilt, but the complete rose tinted affection for the 'heroes' of the era before him - Hinualt, Merckx and Indurain et al, who just as likely doped with the same disregard for 'honesty' and yet we are supposed to see them in 'glory'.
It's the whole double standard, blind approach that is lame. Let's move on people and enjoy the exciting cycling of today, altogether cleaner and just as exciting.
Charlie Whitfield
14th June 2012 10:22am
Curious to suggest that a man with a pair of Giro/Tour doubles to his name was "in particular" focussed on one goal.
Joe Hall
14th June 2012 10:48am
That's just my opinion, Charlie. I could argue that he used the Giro as a platform for the Tour… When in Rome…
Lynton Head-Wilson
14th June 2012 12:52pm
Lance pretty much got me into cycling. Its now a passion that pretty much borders on obsession. I just hope it ain't true!
Gerald Moser
14th June 2012 01:54pm
Joe, by all account you can't say that Merckx relied on time-trials to win. A rider does not win four times the combativity award in the Tour de France (1969, 1970, 1974, 1975) through time-trial, regardless of how impressive his TT performance was!
But I agree with you, I rather watch pics of Kaiser Jan Ullrich with a beer ;-)
Joe Hall
14th June 2012 03:06pm
Hi Gerald, hope you are going well.
Yes, you are right. But I didn't say he relied only on time trials. Like Anquetil, Hinault, Indurain and Armstrong, he could also keep pace in the mountains… Just like you!
Tom Jennings
14th June 2012 03:11pm
No smoke without fire, as usual. Testimony from a range of former team-mates (not all of them with a Landis-style axe to grind) appears to pretty much confirm there was bad stuff going on in the Motorola days. Part of me wishes Lance would just come out with it, admit he was naive and dabbled early in his career, draw a line under it. Doesn't explain the fact he never failed a dope test, but then the bad guys in cycling always did have cleverer doctors than the good guys.
Either way, I was no fan of Armstrong's ugly level of competitiveness and lack of class on the bike. Nor can I consider someone who actively avoided the one-day classics to be amongst the greatest riders of all time.
Chris Carpenter
14th June 2012 03:17pm
Lance was racing against pros at the age of 15 in triathlon. He won the WC at 22(?). He's been tested 500 odd times and never tested positive. Contador who was also tested on a regular basis was 'caught' pretty much immediately. Anybody who has cheated in the sport in recent times has always been caught.
There are always those who don't like success and will do anything to deride that success. I believe that Lance is an honest, extremly dedicated athlete who also is a 'freak of nature' - he just has the capacity to do what he did. Plus he was motivated, winning was everything and all that mattered. There are those who want to get away with less and don't like it when Lance did so well.
It must be very disappointing for him now that he can't race in IM, something he did before well and now even better.
Mark Oliver
14th June 2012 03:49pm
Chris - I don't think you can say that Contador was caught "immediately". We have no idea about his doping history. And he was only caught when he was no longer under Bruyneel's control.
I'm doing plenty of sitting on the fence here too - doping has played a big role in cycling historically, I hope that it is no longer (or less and less) the case.
Julian Allen
14th June 2012 04:34pm
Never tested positive? Has Wikipedia struck the Tour of Suisse ('09?) from the history books?
Spot on, Tom Jennings.
Matt Cartwright
14th June 2012 05:02pm
Regardless of guilt, his t-shirt has sold out!
Kieran Riley
14th June 2012 05:18pm
Love the guy. Did he dope or didn't he? I honestly couldn't care less. The man was and is a force of nature. Whichever side of the fence you sit on, any potential USADA verdict won't change your opinion about him anyway.
Matthew Meskill
14th June 2012 05:33pm
Suppose he was doping. According to David Millar just about every one else was too. All things being equal, Lance would seem to be pretty good. I'm no huge Lance fan but I think most were doping, including some of the old guys like Merckx etc.
Andrie Grimaud
14th June 2012 07:58pm
Doping or no doping, now that the stink is on, how much money does he want to waste to try to forever wash it off? I'm sitting on the fence not caring, yet leaning towards his side on this. I'd thank him for being such a force in the sport and not fighting it, saving us tax payers millions in legal fees for a witch hunt. I think that they would learn from the Bonds, Clemens and BALCO cases that if they do ever win its pretty a hallow victory of sorts.
Ben Brown
14th June 2012 10:50pm
A good game is to try and work out seven 'clean' winners of those TdFs if the victories are rescinded. Simeoni might have won a Tour at some point.
Mark Oliver
15th June 2012 01:49am
Ben - this may help a little: http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/armstrong1150px.jpg
John Davis
16th June 2012 03:43am
He was a phenomenal "Tour" rider period. Not necessarily a great rider and I completely agree that any rider that shuns the classics can not be viewed as a legend - he was a legend only on the Tour and beating cancer: both phenomenal feats. I agree with many of the posts on this blog and agree where there is smoke there is likely fire, but nothing has come up with as many tests as he has had. I just question why a quasi US Gov't Agency is pursuing this when the US Gov't does not have a budget, and has been running at a deficit for as long as we have that they would waste any energy or funds on this matter. Let sleeping dogs lie, there are so many other things both good and bad (other that Lance) for all of us to focus on in life and in cycling.
Alexander Kenney
18th June 2012 08:42am
The last 5-6 years has seen a 5-10% drop in mountain ascent times, even though the equipment and training has improved. They all doped, its just Lance can't admit it. Half his team have admitted to doping.
He was beating guys that have almost all admitted to doping. So therefore he was 5% better than guys that were going 5-10% faster than they should have been. Come on. Its beyond obvious. In fact in my mind its a non-issue now.
For me it is nothing to do with doping. Doping (in one form or another) has been a part of cycling since the Tour was first created. What is more important is that a champion behaves as a champion. When Lance hounded Simeoni by deliberately stopping his breakaway away in a Tour stage, he lost all rider respectability. The guy has zero class, which is why he will always be remembered with mixed emotions.
In the words of The Keepers Of The Cog, he is simply a twatwaffle. Plus he wore really long black socks man!
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Hi everyone and welcome to today's post. To a physicist or a musician, the concept of String Theory, will probably have different meanings. To a physicist String Theory is a research framework that attempts to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity. To a musician it is the music and theory of all instruments with strings. For me the complexity of these ideas is staggering. Quantum mechanics is pretty heady stuff in its own right and one need only listen to Stravinsky's Rite of Spring to realize the beautiful complexity of his music. I would argue that in physics there is music and in music there is physics. In this image which I have lovingly named "String Theory" the concepts of physics and music have merged. Gravity, of course, plays a large role here, as does time, and perhaps the science of fluid dynamics. And I think we could throw in a little Chaos Theory for good measure. But there are also sound waves in physics and in music. A waterfall is all of these things and more. To watch the movements of the water, to trace the lines of the flows, is to witness the concepts of gravity and time. The music comes from the joyful sounds of water striking rock and splashing in the pools below. This is the complete orchestra. Standing quietly though, if you listen, you can hear the individual notes and melodies that make up the orchestra; Water upon rock; water upon water; the reverberation of notes that bounce within the stone walls; and then, more subtle, the dampened notes of water dripping on the green moss. If you stand long enough you can hear the notes trickle away, carried downstream to play again for anyone who will listen.
This is Elakala Falls No. 1. It receives that distinguished moniker since it is the first waterfall in a series of four fall along Shay's Run in Blackwater River State Park, WV. I shot this image about two weeks ago with my WV shooting pal Mark Muse. The conditions were less than ideal and we were pelted all day by rain and generally unpleasant conditions. But despite the rain the concert was not cancelled. The river played on and the rain joined in for an improvisational set. During the intermissions we photographed, happy to be part of the show. Well, to be honest, only sometimes were we happy. We did not enjoy covering our cameras with plastic bags, or defogging our polarizing filters, or being soaked to the bone. But those things were just part of the process and if we slowed down, and allowed ourselves to listen, we could hear the music. Stop and listen. A simple concept that is hard to practice in a world hell bent to speed up. Places such as this are important to our well being, our heath, and our soul. Unplugging from the stream of bits and bytes and plugging in to the earths natural rhythms is calming and invigorating. Take some time to listen to the music. It is out there waiting for you.
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Absolutely beautiful, Bob…and so are your words. Sorry for the soaking, but with this shot, I believe it was probalby worth the discomfort! Look forward to more photos from this shoot,.


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But what was fruitless then is quite the opposite now. Heading into its final district game this year, the 4-4 Wildcats find themselves in the same spot they were in last year, albeit at the 3A level. And to make it interesting, their opposite number is another Reno County team with a playoff berth on the line - Trinity Catholic (5-3). Haven is counting on its district experience last year to be the edge it needs in tonight's home game. "Being in that boat last year was very important because, unfortunately, it had been a long time since we had to deal with that pressure, as you say, a 'do-or-die' situation," second-year Haven coach Mike Self said. "You can't mimic that. It doesn't matter how you structure your practices or how many speeches you make." The Wildcats still have the core players from last year's underdog team and, Self says, the stage doesn't frighten them. "I don't get a sense that anybody's nervous," Self said. "We feel fortunate to have another shot at it." Trinity wasn't in this boat last year. A 6-0 start was spoiled when the Celtics struggled in a loaded district, losing to Garden Plain, Halstead and Sedgwick. But first-year Trinity coach Brad Hollinger didn't inherit a team devoid of postseason experience. This year's seniors were freshmen and sophomores in 2009 and 2010 when, under coach Derek Racette, the Celtics made back-to-back 3A quarterfinal appearances while winning 21 of 24 games between those two seasons. Combine that with Hollinger's own resumé - he took Moundridge to the playoffs in five of six seasons between 2003-2008 - and Trinity, too, is focused on the task at hand. "I've been there before and they've been their before," Hollinger said of he and his Trinity players. "You try not to dwell on it too much. Everybody knows the importance of it. ... You win or you go home." The matchup pits a pair of strong rushing attacks against each other. Trinity's Wing-T offense has blossomed week-by-week, with Elias Jasso-Cardenas leading a cast of runners that includes Eric Banning, Nathan Eisenbarth and Spencer Truman. Haven sports one of the fastest running backs in the county in Trae' Regier. His speed has brought a lot of attention from defenses, so Haven tries to keep opponents' honest with dual-threat quarterback Tim Hendrixson and slot back Austin Fritzemeier. Defensively, Trinity is stronger in its front seven with standouts on the defensive line (Jerome Miller and Dalton Rodriguez) and linebacker (Joey Hale) while Haven's secondary, with ballhawk safety Cody Crabtree, has become a strength on an improved unit. Both squads enter with wins against Kingman and losses to Garden Plain, setting up a game where the winner ensures itself of at least one more game. But more than a playoff berth could come out of tonight's clash. Enemies could be born. "It's got some potential to be a rivalry as time goes on," Self said. "We'll have to wait and see how everything plays out. I think it'd be good for our programs." Nickerson at Buhler At full strength, this is a Nickerson team that might have been more athletic than Buhler. Unfortunately, it remains to be seen just how healthy the Panthers will be when they take the field Thursday. The Panthers lost three starters in the first half last week. Included in that group is Tyler Owen, the team's leading receiver, and Sean Rodriguez, its best athlete and leading tackler. But this is the situation. And Nickerson embraces the opportunity. If its collective confidence has taken a hit as a result of the 72-22 loss to Andale last week, it certainly isn't showing. "Our kids are confident," Nickerson coach Max Heinlein said. "I think they were discouraged last week by the way things got out of hand, but they will be ready to play again." It's a big-game environment. And Buhler has played a lot of big games in recent years. The Kansas Class 4A playoffs offer the same kind of win-or-go-home ramifications, which might give the Crusaders a bit of an advantage. Excelling in this kind of game is walking a tightrope. Players have to understand the urgency, but they have to settle down and rely on the things that have gotten them through the first eight weeks of the season. "You just have to go out and play like you always do," said Steve Warner, Buhler's coach. Too often, teams get into big games and players get excited and try to do too much. "That's something we have talked about all year," Heinlein said. "We have talked about trusting in teammates. We don't ask them to do extraordinary things. "We ask them to do what they can." Simply put, it's the team that does the little things, the team that that finds its normalcy first that usually hits its stride and prevails in a do-or-die game. "It's the team that comes out and executes the best that will win," Heinlein said. "The team that comes out and executes its game play the best will win. You have to get back to fundamentals. You have to block, make tackles and don't make mistakes. "It's just like any other game. You just have to settle down and play. Buhler and Nickerson have both played eight games this season. We'll both know what to do." In other words, there might be huge pressure in the stands and even on the sideline, but on the field, this might as well be an early-season game. Making plays will ultimately make the difference. And when you peel away all of the minutia, you find that both teams are stocked with playmakers. Even in their hobbled state, the Panthers still have quarterback Ryan O'Toole, who has had a big season throwing the football. Jalen Karber can make big plays on the outside, while Isaac Warman rushed for more than 1,300 yards last season and enters this game fresh. Buhler, meanwhile, Might have the area's best running back in junior Riley Allen. 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Booking is now open for the first two workshops of 2014: click here to take a look at what's on offer.
The Border Marches Early Music Forum, BMEMF, exists to promote the enjoyment of early music. It doesn't matter if you're a singer or an instrumentalist; very experienced or a beginner; amateur or professional - if you enjoy early music, BMEMF is for you. (Pictured is the Spem in Alium workshop in Presteigne in June 2013).
- We publish a quarterly newsletter packed with news, reviews and details of forthcoming events.
- We organise regular day workshops in Herefordshire and the surrounding counties of England and Wales.
- Our workshops cater for a range of interests and abilities.
- All our workshops are led by highly-regarded specialist tutors.
- You don't have to be a member - everyone is welcome.
We're friendly, welcoming and very, very enthusiastic! We hope that you will browse through this website and find an event to interest you. We look forward to seeing you at one of our workshops.
Registered Charity No 512160
We are members of 'Making Music'
Please click here for a copy of our Constitution .


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