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> Your complaint appears to be that Linus isn't spending his time looking > at every single commit he merges, determining if it could be a security > hole, and rewriting/rejecting it until the changelog mentions that. nice strawman there, but i didn't say anything like that. i was talking about commits that went in with the full knowledge and agreement of said kernel developers.
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Posted Jun 10, 2008 21:36 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
The vast majority don't, including at least two of the three you specifically called out (Linus doesn't look at every commit to cpufreq, and the other one is networking: expecting David Miller to rewrite commit logs for everything in the net subsystem is similarly madness: particularly if it's a security hole, delaying its propagation to fix *commit logs* is surely not sensible).
Posted Jun 10, 2008 22:15 UTC (Tue) by PaXTeam (subscriber, #24616) [Link]
> The vast majority don't, another strawman, i never said that the vast majority did. > including at least two of the three you specifically called out i didn't call out three, only one. and that one is hard to believe to have escaped attention given it was already public in the bugzilla with its full impact properly described. *someone* did everything to not mention 'buffer overflow' there and engaged in creative rewording, you can't dance around that fact. whether it was discussed on the kernel security list is anyone's guess (why aren't they public after a while anyway?). > (Linus doesn't look at every commit to cpufreq, and the other one is > networking: expecting David Miller to rewrite commit logs for everything > in the net subsystem is similarly madness: particularly if it's a > security hole, delaying its propagation to fix *commit logs* is surely > not sensible). you keep talking about this need/expectation to rewrite commit logs, i don't know where you got that from, certainly not from me. i always talked about commits that went in (attention, i'm about to repeat myself) with the full knowledge and agreement of said kernel developers. that means that they were well aware of the security impact of the bug and did still choose to omit that fact. i will throw in another one for you and you tell me the history behind it: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-... .
Posted Jun 10, 2008 23:04 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
You're saying that specific commits which are 'obviously' (to you but perhaps not to their authors) security holes are not being noted as such. Then you say that this is a 'policy held at the very top of Linux development'. This is ludicrous fearmongering at best, given that the commits in question were not written by the people at the very top of Linux development, and that it is silly to expect them to rewrite the commit messages or reject the changes because their commit messages are wrong, and even sillier to expect them to review every change to see if it is a security hole *specifically so they can complain about or fix the commit messages*. (I can't figure out what else you might expect them to do: given that you've complained about the commit logs and the 'very top of Linux development', it is reasonable to believe that you expect those at the very top of Linux development to reject commits fixing security holes or fix their commit logs themselves. If that's *not* what you mean, please be clearer, because I don't have a clue what else you could be talking about.)
Posted Jun 10, 2008 23:26 UTC (Tue) by PaXTeam (subscriber, #24616) [Link]
you say a lot of things i never said, so forgive me if i save time by not quoting every sentence of yours again ;). i thought i was quite clear already but let me spell it out again: 1. there's no problem with commits not telling the whole truth if noone was the wiser at the time of the commit. 2. there *is* however a problem with commits where the impact of the bug fixed by said commit is known *yet* it's not mentioned at all or cleverly worded so that noone will notice it by just glancing at the commit looking for keywords. the second commit i cited falls into category 2 (and we have yet to see the story of the first one, not that there was any shortage of them i could have cited) and what i expect from the kernel devs is to stop contributing to that category.
Posted Jun 11, 2008 0:11 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
Badly worded, sure: a bugzilla link is not a good changelog entry. But we have plenty of bad changelog entries from people who haven't yet got up to speed or are in a hurry (perhaps because, well, they just found a nasty crash bug and want to fix it sharpish). Bad changelog entries do not conspiracies or intentional concealment of security holes make. You're assuming malice without cause.
Posted Jun 11, 2008 0:30 UTC (Wed) by PaXTeam (subscriber, #24616) [Link]
how do you know i don't have cause? when you see how https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=194215#c2 turns into this http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-... commit, there is cause.
Posted Jun 11, 2008 2:51 UTC (Wed) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link]
As spooky as it undoubtedly seems to you, the commit messages aren't addressed to PaXTeam (are you actually an individual or a corporate entity?). Unless stated elsewhere they aren't intended as a functional description of the changes (read the source for that), a summary of the security consequences, an entry into a poetry contest, a running commentary on the developer's lunch plans or a source of entropy for a random number generator. On occasion they may serve as one or more of those things, but generally, they're a memo to the developers working on that code. So if they fix a line which incorrectly sets foozle to NULL, don't be surprised if the commit message is "don't touch foozle in baz" rather than "Potential security flaw fixed, NULL dereference PaXTeam take note". If you would like to provide blow-by-blow security commentary for every merge, I suspect at least some people on LKML would welcome it, perhaps to a different list. The general situation is that most bugs involving privileged code will have security consequences. Since any large system, including all the popular general purpose operating systems, will have such bugs, this is not very helpful information.
Posted Jun 11, 2008 8:49 UTC (Wed) by PaXTeam (subscriber, #24616) [Link]
you *still* don't understand what i was saying. for the Nth time: i am *not* talking about commits lacking security impact information when it is *not* known at the time of the commit (although one would think that in this age at least a few exploitable bug classes should be known to kernel developers and be recognized and thus documented as such in the commit). what i *am* talking about is commits where the security impact is already *known* yet the commit very deliberately does *not* mention it or tries to downplay it as much as possible. you want proof? the last one i mentioned, look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=194215#c0 in the Red Hat bugzilla. the actual author of that one was not Marcel Holtmann but Paul Mackerras himself. the problem? Marcel did not quote the full email, he omitted one of the last paragraphs, as you will see below, for a good reason (good for him and other kernel devs trying to evade full disclosure, something they supposedly support, at least when it's for PR purposes, that is): I'd appreciate advice about the best way forward here, and to what degree we should be candid about the reason for the patch in the commit message when it gets committed to Linus' git repository. and candid it became indeed. if you want more juicy stuff, go ask your supposedly honest kernel devs for the kernel security list archives. PS: i hope you're not a kernel contributor, you certainly haven't got a clue about what belongs into a commit message. you also don't have a clue about what bugs have a security impact, it's most certainly not *most bugs*. but i understand, what i've been saying sounds unbelievable to you, so it's easier to attack the messenger, instead of actually checking out the situation for yourself.
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Posted Jun 11, 2008 9:48 UTC (Wed) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link]
What you're talking about is commits which lack security impact information. I explained that commit messages aren't specifically called out as a medium for security impact information. So it doesn't matter if they don't have security impact information, any more than it matters if they don't rhyme. And you've responded to inform me that I "still don't understand" by which, so far as I've been able to discover you mean simply that I didn't agree with you about how terrible this is. Candid means frank and open. You may be confused by seeing it used in the context "candid camera" or "candid photographs" which refer to the fact that the subject isn't aware that they're being watched and so they act candidly. The developers involved decided /not/ to be candid about the bug in your example. You're cross about that, we get it. But you still haven't given me a reason to care. I've encountered this claim that only a handful of bugs have security impact before. It's disappointing, particularly when it comes from someone who claims to actually care about security. I just picked at random a harmless sounding item from the latest stable tree commit logs "eCryptfs: remove unnecessary page decrypt call" ... sounds like it's probably a performance fix? Let's take a look. Oh, the bug overwrites mmap() changes, undoing them. The kernel promises not to do that to you, breaking the promise converts to a security impact because userspace programs that rely on this promise are now broken and their security assumptions are violated.
Posted Jun 11, 2008 13:04 UTC (Wed) by PaXTeam (subscriber, #24616) [Link]
> "Candid" doesn't mean hidden i never said it did. what Paul was asking the kernel devs was about how honest he should be in the commit. the mind boggles at that very moment as this was on a list whose declared disclosure policy is full-disclosure (see Documentation/SecurityBugs if in doubt). then what do we get in the commit? complete omission of the more serious security impact (arbitrary kernel memory read). you call that whatever you want, i call it dishonesty. it's not terrible per se, it's just it's in direct contradiction to what was communicated to the public before and what this supposedly superiour development model is so proud of among others. as they say, you can't have it both ways. also, this one at least got a CVE that, as far as i know, you can't say about that ptrace bug i posted somewhere above (not even the corresponding -stable commit mentions anything at least yet the -stable guys were fully aware of its impact - this by the way directly contradicts Chris Wright's claim in http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=121312896523183&... ). > I explained that commit messages aren't specifically called out as a medium for security impact information. says who? 'tialaramex' or is it the agreed-upon (read: documented for the public) commit policy of kernel developers? as for what percentage of kernel bugs have a security impact (or did you mean something other than 'kernel code' by 'privileged code'?), i stand by my claim that it's not *most* of them (i never said 'only a handful' either, nice strawman though). this is based on my personal experience. PS: congratulations on finding yet another silently fixed potential security bug.
Posted Jun 11, 2008 17:33 UTC (Wed) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link]
If you use words in the opposite sense to their correct meaning without any trace of irony then people certainly are entitled to assume that's because you don't actually know what they mean. I see that a dose of your own medicine doesn't suit you. You've several times provided links which actually don't say what you claim they do. This time you suggested that the Linux security list has a policy of full disclosure, when in fact the document you mentioned uses weasel words to declare that disclosure should happen "as soon as possible" which means nothing at all. No congratulations are necessary. I did not find a bug, I just read a randomly chosen commit log. Anyone can do it. Maybe more people should.
Posted Jun 11, 2008 21:11 UTC (Wed) by PaXTeam (subscriber, #24616) [Link]
i see you're getting sidetracked into various things which is a good sign that i raised valid points you don't contest. > You've several times provided links which actually don't say what you > claim they do. this is a blanket statement without any proof/explanation. elaborate please. > This time you suggested that the Linux security list has > a policy of full disclosure, when in fact the document you mentioned > uses weasel words to declare that disclosure should happen "as soon as > possible" which means nothing at all. said document talks about 'full disclosure', not mere 'disclosure' (nice attempt but you got caught). second, if you cared to read the comment at the bottom of this thread, you'd realize that said document doesn't at all raise the issue of the amount of disclosure, only its potential timing. so we're in agreement that the disclosure policy is 'full disclosure' (and which is what wasn't observed in several cases i cited). i've said nothing else and you haven't contradicted it either. and frankly, if you're not an active party in all this non-or-half-assed-disclosure process, you have zero idea about what you're talking.
Posted Jun 12, 2008 2:47 UTC (Thu) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link]
Sorry everyone, I should not have fed the troll.
Posted Jun 12, 2008 3:14 UTC (Thu) by spender (subscriber, #23067) [Link]
Clever: when your lies are uncovered (see above post re: "full-disclosure"), you sneak out while claiming the moral high ground. If you're looking for a troll, you need only look in the mirror. -Brad
Posted Jun 12, 2008 19:03 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
This thread really is a confluence of the pointlessly combative, isn't it? There's not an instant's consideration given to the possibility that any disliked event might *not* be due to malice, `lies', `suppression'... sheesh.
Posted Jun 12, 2008 20:49 UTC (Thu) by spender (subscriber, #23067) [Link]
One of us is privy to certain insider information, and one of us is not. I'm quite sure you don't know what goes on in the private kernel security mailing lists (I'll include vendorsec in on this as well). After a certain period of time, there's no reason to keep the discussions of these lists private unless the members are embarrassed of the information that would be found. Go ask Linus if he didn't intentionally decide to cover up that ptrace bug mentioned in this thread. I have proof that he did, and that as a result of the coverup no CVE was assigned and the fix was not backported to distro kernels. Go ask the members of the vendorsec list if they haven't been covering up a DoS on the Itanium architecture reported by Intel over a year ago, for which two fixes were provided. The flaw is in hardware so all kernels are vulnerable, and the worst part in this situation is that the vendorsec members collectively agreed not to provide either of the two software fixes for the bug. You claim there's been no proof, but yet I've already pointed out in my previous exploit a clear coverup of what was at least known to the committer to be a local DoS (I demonstrated that it was trivial arbitrary code execution), but the commit message said only "fix sys_tee()" and no CVE was created. So many of those you blindly trust are involved in coverups like these. They erroneously think they can get away with it because they don't think anyone's watching the watchers. So people like Chris Wright will claim in public that there are no coverups, but he knows as we know that he's taken part in it out of the public eye. So I seriously encourage you or anyone else to go ask the people I've mentioned about the specific events I've mentioned. Send this to LKML if you wish. I'll give them the opportunity to give their side of the events in question. It should be clear to from the details I've already released here that this is not a frivolous accusation, and that I'm aware of things they hoped the public would never be aware of. If they choose not to, or continue to lie about what happens behind the scenes, I'll release what information I have. I think they'll be surprised by what is known among certain individuals about what they're doing. I'm probably making enemies from all sides by even mentioning the details above, but in the end a more honest security leadership will only help users of Linux. I'd also like to reiterate the importance of making the discussions of the private kernel security lists public after an agreed upon acceptable amount of time, so that this culture of coverups cannot be allowed to grow any more. -Brad
Posted Jun 12, 2008 22:02 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
OK, you're resorting to argument from authority. There's absolutely no point talking to you at all, is there? (And no, I'm not going to go around randomly accusing kernel hackers of coverups and conspiracies. You're the one arguing that point and referring to secret evidence to 'support' your claim, not me.) (I'd agree that the various private security lists should have delayed public archives. Transparency is good, and the only reason to keep those lists private is to prevent the bad guys from responding before the distros do, so after they've responded there's no point keeping the traffic secret anymore.)
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Great book, introductory, but still leaves you with some questions, beginner, should to add some more.
Lots of info for fret work... Some good tips as well... some very extreme examples of a few jobs.. Not every tech will encounter some of these but good to have a reference..
a lot of good info in this book. very helpful for doing high quality fret work
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If you've wanted to do your own fret work, but were scared, jump into it feet first after getting this book. This will be the MOST IMPORTANT tool you can use to start with. I got it separately, but it's FREE with the Essential Fret Kit. That is the way to go. Lots of clear and detailed pictures, (I like that), and concise instruction.
Covers almost all aspects of fretting in great detail and much more. Easy to understand, clear pictures help explain the tricky parts. The main thing I bought the book for was unfortunately not covered... How to compound-radius a fretboard.
The book could be better, don't help very much. You must also buy the video to really understand how to do a fret job
This is a good book that covers a lot of different re-fretting scenarios. Unfortunately it was not what I was looking for. I was hoping for more focus on fretting a new guitar and doing the initial set up. Set up is not covered, but them again the book never claims that it is. In short, not what I was looking for but a really good book if you want to know a lot about re-fretting and possible problems you will encounter in the process.
This book is a definate help to a beginner, even with each guitar and neck being different it gives you a solid base understanding to do your own fretwork.
This book assumes you have a brain and are prepared to use it. It gives you a no nonsense approach to fretting and refretting. If you use this in conjunction with the Stew - Mac fretting table, found on this website, you'll do a fine job on a blank neck. If you want to refret, it tells you how. Anyone who doesn't 'get it' after reading this, shouldn't be doing the job.
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As web publishing possibilities grow, I become more and more overwhelmed. It seems impossible to keep up, and I admit — I sometimes I use that as an excuse not to. The rest of the time, I just muddle through the best I can to keep our web sites up to date, functioning, and performing to their best ability, which is directly limited to my abilities.
Several years ago, I used to obsess over my web sites and blogs, learning and experimenting and playing with what's out there. That's how we ended up with our Cafe Press store at www.twolaneshoppin.com, and sites like the one I created after the 2003 flood.
But while I worked as a newspaper reporter, my knowledge of web publishing stagnated while I focused on writing. When we launched Two-Lane Livin', I realized my web design knowledge (and web design program) were severely out-of-date.
When we became involved with WV Uncovered, I decided to use WordPress as our publishing platform, and began to learn and play with it. That was a year and a half ago, and I just now am feeling somewhat comfortable with it. I don't try to push my boundaries too much, and I admit — I've spent time I used to spend on web work and play now on learning to garden, can, make rugs, relax.
However, our continued involvement with WV Uncovered, and the appearance of a new "web savvy" friend in my life, I realize that I have been neglecting the web sites of our lives. When you have multiple web sites in multiple levels of completion, with multiple purposes, it seems that everyone of them has loose ends. On top of that, I don't even know off the top of my head how many different domain names we own. I'd have to look them up. Some are parked, some are forwards, some are hosted — I have a hard time keeping track.
The two main domains I work with are twolanelivin.com and wvcottages.com. The first, of course, hosts the magazine online. The second is a domain name I've had since 1997, and I just have never let it go. It hosts this blog, even though the blog's "domain" is twolanebloggin.com. Then, there's our youtube page (twolanevideo.info), our scribed page, our payloadz page (twolanepubs.com), our etsy page (fralimi.com), and others long forgotten or yet to come.
Our web sites are full of "we could possiblies" and "yet to comes".
Web design work is a time sponge, much like the internet that hosts it. I start tweaking one of our sites at 4 pm, and with a break for dinner, could still be tweaking at 2 am. That's what happened the other night, and my sleep schedule is still out of whack.
The main page at wvcottages.com was completely outdated and served no purpose, so I created a new entry for that. I found a new Worpress PlugIn for twolanelivin.com that provided better meta tags and descriptions. This blog's version of WordPress was outdated, so I thought I'd upgrade that too — and that's where it all went down hill. The upgrade crashed the site, and at 2 a.m. I sent a frantic e-mail to the server technician. He replied within minutes.
See? Web work seems to draw (or create) night owls.
I think about our hopes to create audio and video features for our web sites, our dreams of having our own internet tv channel, of the interactive possibilities of the future.
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Survey Finds Majority of Companies Optimistic About Business Growth During Quarter
PHOENIX, Sept. 16, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Fourteen percent of chief financial officers (CFOs) in the Phoenix area expect to add new professional-level positions in the fourth quarter, according to the Phoenix Professional Employment Forecast from Robert Half. Fifteen percent of respondents will not be hiring, even to fill an open position, and 4 percent plan to reduce staff levels. Another 66 percent said they will hire for roles that open during the next three months.
Most executives are optimistic about their business prospects for the fourth quarter. Nearly nine in 10 (89 percent) CFOs expressed confidence in their companies' growth potential for the quarter, with 44 percent of respondents saying they are very confident.
The survey suggests, however, that organizations looking to expand and add staff may face difficulties. The majority of CFOs surveyed, 61 percent, said it is at least somewhat challenging to find skilled candidates for professional-level positions today.
"Many companies are realizing they need to bring in additional support for increased workloads or risk losing tenured staff who may feel overburdened and look for new opportunities elsewhere," said Brett Good, senior district president for Robert Half in Phoenix. "Companies are working with staff accountants, senior accountants and administrative support professionals on both a project and temporary-to-full-time basis as 2013 comes to a close and they begin planning for the year ahead."
The Professional Employment Forecast was developed by Robert Half, the world's first and largest specialized staffing firm, and conducted by an independent research firm. The local results reflect a two-quarter rolling average based on interviews with 200 CFOs from a stratified random sample of companies in the Phoenix area with 20 or more employees.
CFOs were asked, "What are your company's hiring plans for full-time professional-level employees in the fourth quarter?" Their responses:
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Expanding – adding new positions |
14% |
19% |
Maintaining – only filling vacated positions |
66% |
63% |
Freezing – not filling vacated positions or creating new ones |
15% |
12% |
Reducing – eliminating positions |
4% |
6% |
Don't know/no answer |
2% |
0% |
101%* |
100% | |
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Founded in 1948, Robert Half is the world's first and largest specialized staffing firm. Find more information at www.roberthalf.com.
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