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Not all wonder is endless
We have what for most will be bad news, for us are terrible news, and for a selected few might actually be good news.
We have received a C&D letter from Hasbro's Legal representatives, asking us to cease game development, remove any materials that might contain My Little Pony characters, names, locations or related elements from the sites we control (Our site, our youtube, our twitch), and "cease any further use of [their] MY LITTLE PONY property".
Options have been considered, lawyers have been contacted, and resources have been (mostly) exhausted.
We have attempted negotiating with Hasbro for the continued use of the property in our non-profit, voluntary project, but so far we haven't received an answer. As such, we're complying with the contents of the C&D letter until we receive answer from their PR and/or Legal departments.
We also want to inform the general public of the final and irrevocable resignation of James Workman (Elosande) from the Mane6 DevTeam, effective February 6, 2013, as well as reminding of the final and irrevocable resignation of Prominence, effective January 30, 2012. The Mane6 DevTeam no longer represents their interest, nor do they represent ours.
We'll keep everyone posted as the situation evolves, but be aware we might not be able to respond to comments and questions due to the delicate nature of the situation.
Thanks for following our project so far.
1,846 comments:
- gartman8/2/13 7:26 PM
I'm so very sorry, you we're so close to finishing! I'm going to continue watching and see where this goes, but for the time being i'm hoping.
ReplyDelete - Cameron_D8/2/13 7:33 PM
Legally Hasbro have no choice. Hasbro either need to protect their trademarks or lose them. Thus is the state of trademark laws
ReplyDelete - Clayton8/2/13 7:36 PM
Really, really upset to see this. I'm hoping that something can be worked out. :(
ReplyDelete - MicroChip8/2/13 7:41 PM
Something told me that this was going to happen and I was hoping it didn't. All ya'll work... and nothing to show for it. ya'll be working on this for how long now...2 years........Hasbro...why, just why....
ReplyDelete - Skree8/2/13 7:41 PM
Until an explanation is given by Hasbro, they have officially crossed over onto my shit list.
ReplyDelete - AbsoluteDiscord8/2/13 7:41 PM
I wonder why they would do this. Hasbro really could have profited if they just asked you to team up with them. This sucks that we got some brony hating lawyer in hasbro wrecking our shit.
ReplyDelete - Isaac8/2/13 7:42 PM
why does Hasbro do this? why cant Lauren make the decision? correct me if im wrong but its her show right?
ReplyDeleteReplies- Anonymous8/2/13 7:54 PM
she helped revamp the series, but actually has little say on what happens with the property itself. That would be another person entirely.
- Lord Tormoku8/2/13 7:42 PM
What a buch of fuckers! WHY DID THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY ALMOST FINISHED!!? GRRRRR!!
ReplyDelete - JackJackington8/2/13 7:42 PM
They can profit more if they do it all themselves. Which is probably why they're doing this.
ReplyDelete - oogabooga8/2/13 7:43 PM
Fuck off hasbro, why would bother C&Ding a non-profit voluntary game which could bring in more revenue.....and let shit like banned from equestria run rampant.
I really hope an agreement is sorted and this game comes too light in its intended form.
Its been in working for too fucking long - Aaron Holle8/2/13 7:43 PM
People really need to stop saying this because it's entirely untrue. You do not lose a trademark if you don't defend it. You can only lose a trademark if it's abandoned, improperly licensed or genericized. See here:
The only thing that not defending your trademark can cause an issue with is limit the amount of damage claims the trademark owner can claim in the event of court claims. - Doshi8/2/13 7:43 PM
No..it isn't hers. She created the premise but it is intellectual property of Hasbro. So it's theirs.
ReplyDelete - Bomdre5558/2/13 7:44 PM
Great, so Hasbro's now pulling fan-based content, which doesn't even cost them any money, since Mane6 doesn't make a cent off of this project, and because of their actions, we're out of an awesome MLP fighting game, and they lose a brilliant tool of free advertising, AND they tick off a sizable percentage of their fanbase...brilliant move, ha$bro. Just brilliant.
ReplyDelete - samuel griffiths8/2/13 7:45 PM
Is there any chance you could buy licencing? Run a kickstarter, people will pay.
ReplyDelete - Walkoprops8/2/13 7:45 PM
I gotta say, this didn't come as lightning from a clear sky. But it's still sad news. Gotta respect Hasbro for wanting to protect their merchandise, even though that doesn't make to much sense since this were going to be free AND it'd give 'em some free advertisement...
I'm also paying my respect for you guys. Putting up on a project this big ain't something you can do overnight, and being so close to a finish product and all...
Keep on being awesome. Maybe y'all can put something else up. You got in in you, so please; don't stop doing what you do best :) - Texas8/2/13 7:45 PM
Heres how its going to go Hasbro will say well give us money meaning they will want some money from this. There not going to sit here and let people use there product for there own sorry but there are laws with this kind of thing.
ReplyDelete - Hocus8/2/13 7:45 PM
Men, this project is just...outstanding. Is really stupid that they want you to stop.
The best thing that can happen is that Hasbro hire you guys to finish this amazing game and gain some profit. That would be a win-win situation. - Matt Saunders8/2/13 7:47 PM
How the HAY did this happen AFTER everything with EVO??!?!? how did this not happen before that?
ReplyDelete It is non-profit and voluntary, hence this is complete bull. If they received any sort of profit for this, then Hasbro legally had something to stand on, but as this is non-profit and voluntary (in other words, doesn't compete with Hasbro on any commercial level whatsoever) they have no business shutting these guys down.
ReplyDelete- Connelly8/2/13 7:48 PM
Why stop, keep production underground and distribute the game through piratebay
ReplyDelete - atrasicarius8/2/13 7:48 PM
I would urge you guys to consider posting what you have now on the Pirate Bay. The fandom has been looking forward to this game for years. Give us what you can.
ReplyDelete - waffle9118/2/13 7:48 PM
Unfortunately, that's not how copyright and trademark laws work here in the U.S.
ReplyDelete - DoktorRainbowFridge8/2/13 7:49 PM
As stated above, Hasbro has to protect their trademarks and intellectual property or they will lose all rights to them.
ReplyDelete - Anonymous8/2/13 7:49 PM
You are wrong. Lauren Faust is not involved with FiM any longer and hasn't been for quite a while. Besides which, My Little Pony was never her intellectual property to begin with.
ReplyDelete - Anonymous~8/2/13 7:50 PM
I want Hasbro to know... that it might have been a choice that they wanted to make, but it probably wasn't necessary. If Mane6 didn't claim My Little Pony as their own, and acknowledged that it was Hasbro's, couldn't they have excused this? Honestly, I might just be talking like the 13 year old girl that I am, ignorant to legal situations, but I know enough about this world to know that they Hasbro and Mane6 could have worked past this together. I think that a game like this would have made a lot of people happy.
ReplyDelete - DoktorRainbowFridge8/2/13 7:50 PM
As stated previously, Hasbro needs to protect their trademarks/intellectual property or lose rights to them completely.
ReplyDelete - Meow8/2/13 7:50 PM
Just work on it "underground" and then let the game "leak" to the community.
ReplyDelete - Connelly8/2/13 7:51 PM
Hasbro is like any of the others, money grubbing filthy sons of whore dogs who do not deserve any of our hard earned cash, fuck em, thats right, fuck you Hasbro
ReplyDelete - egyptwasanalienpyramidscheme8/2/13 7:52 PM
Hasbro, for that I'm going to petition the toys r us and start selling pirated dvds of MLP outside. Kill yourself.
ReplyDelete - Mochipants8/2/13 7:52 PM
This is a total crock. What the hell happened to Fair Use? This is a non-profit project...if anything, this is massive free PR for them.
I guess this means I'll never be able to voice Trixie or Queen Chrysalis now ;; - Jennifer Beaulieu8/2/13 7:53 PM
no Hasbro is getting kind of copyright happy. One minute they are happy about fanworks, next they are bringing lawyers in saying to remove fanwork.
ReplyDelete - PanicFox8/2/13 7:53 PM
Someone needs to make a petition to let the Mane6 team continue....
I've been waiting for this amazing game for a long time :/ - Scratchi8/2/13 7:54 PM
Hasbro obviously doesn't care about this. Why would they? They will get nothing out of it. So they will end it so no others can either. The thing is, if they really cared, why the hell didn't they end it earlier? They would have already known about it. They chose now for some reason..
ReplyDelete - Soren8/2/13 7:54 PM
What "no choice"? If they have no choice, they would have shut it down for a long time. All I can see is they planning to make a terrible clone of this game for profit.
ReplyDelete - WTF!8/2/13 7:54 PM
Of all the worst things that could happen... This is the WORST. POSSIBLE. THING!
ReplyDelete - egyptwasanalienpyramidscheme8/2/13 7:55 PM
Egypt is a philosopher, upvote him to karma heaven.
ReplyDelete - Disqorded8/2/13 7:59 PM
You have a working engine, if you cant use their IP, why not make your own thing? This is terrible, but its very unlikely you`re going to get anywhere with this, since multiple other projects have already shut down. With that said, I do hope that you are able to continue this project, it looks way too good.
ReplyDelete - DerUlukai8/2/13 7:59 PM
Have you guys considered asking for a license and maybe starting a kickstarter to get the money needed to buy it and to be allowed to continue developing?
It would be an incredible Shame if this great project were to just vanish. - Ciscodelorum8/2/13 7:59 PM
I don't know what little fuck at Hasbro decided to do this, but I will find him, and kill him.
ReplyDelete - Anonycat8/2/13 7:59 PM
I hope you guys could reach a mutual compromise because seriously, you were doing an awesome job.
ReplyDelete If you want to make a difference, send their corporate office letters:
Hasbro, Inc.
1027 Newport Avenue
Pawtucket, RI 02862.
It HAS to be letters. Send a LOT of letters. Send a letter, tell your friends to send letters, tell them to tell their friends to send letters, this requires a mass movement if anything's going to change and idly complaining about it fixes nothing.
Most importantly be respectful. Do not send them swill or poison, it only sends a bad image. Tell them this means a lot to you. Tell them you adore the MLP intellectual property, and tell them, urge to them, impress upon them the notion that this project is not, and cannot possibly be, a threat to their ownership of that intellectual property.- TG Cydoken8/2/13 8:01 PM
Please release for torrent what you have! We fighting game bronies can't let this work go to waste :(
ReplyDelete - TheAverageGuyTAG8/2/13 8:01 PM
I'd like to hope that these guys continue their work on this in secret. It probably won't happen, but if only... T_T
ReplyDelete - Link3608/2/13 8:01 PM
Fighting is Magic would fall under copyright law under the definition of portraying copyrighted materials in a humorous way as almost to poke fun at the source material. That should be FiM's defense, and the case wouldn't be too hard to win. - GrottMongo8/2/13 8:03 PM
If we don't fight back, then there is nothing to defend!
It's time to act! I'm legitimately crying over this. In the most literal sense possible. There are tears coming out of my eyes. I don't even know what to say. I mean seriously this may sound pathetic as fuck but I'm dead serious, I don't think I've been this sad about anything in years. I hope there will still be some option coming along which isn't as tragic. Seriously I've been following this project so closely from day one. Since you first posted that first AJ v AJ gameplay demonstation I've been hyping up the ponychan threads about this game. And then I've been playing the leak for like every day and f5ed this website and hyped others and holy shit. I just can't quite believe it's over. Please please please, and I know telling you is most probably completely unnecessary, but please do everything within your might to still make this game happen somehow Mane6. This can't end just like this.
ReplyDelete- ethan8/2/13 8:06 PM
What happened to Hasbro they used to let us put out this stuff now they are just being assholes. Hasbro if you can see this you are losing your fanbase.
ReplyDelete - screenaholic8/2/13 8:07 PM
I really hope you guys are able to work this out. I wish you the best of luck.
ReplyDelete - Frozen Shepard8/2/13 8:08 PM
How many name do we need to petition this game's continuation?
ReplyDelete - José Jiménez8/2/13 8:08 PM
This, I think we should all be positive and wait for something good to happen.
ReplyDelete - myname8/2/13 8:09 PM
Honestly, I have no clue about copyright crap, but I believe that if you never collect money that relates to this game you should be able to do it. It's just like memes. If they tell cheezburger to shut down MLB, they'll probably be in court with cheezburger.
ReplyDelete - animemetalhead8/2/13 8:09 PM
Just curious, how hard would it be to get a Kickstarter going to get the funds to license the characters? I mean, it can't be impossible, and I bet this fandom would pull through if you did.
ReplyDelete - Frost8/2/13 8:10 PM
How does this poke fun? Portraying the characters as combatants doesn't do what you seem to think it does.
ReplyDelete - Spitfire8/2/13 8:11 PM
I'd like to know why if they were going to shut it down..why they let it get this far in the development...kind of a dick move
ReplyDelete - de1irium8/2/13 8:12 PM
So it should be no problem for you to fund the lawyers needed for said case, right?
ReplyDelete - Draxter8/2/13 8:12 PM
You did nothing wrong, you're not stealing from them in any way, nor making any profit. If you can't compromise with them just move to .tk domain outside the U$A and they can't touch you.
ReplyDelete - JWOIA8/2/13 8:12 PM
It's the end guys. Not just for Fighting is Magic, but for the fandom as well if they keep this shit up.
ReplyDelete - zero8/2/13 8:12 PM
just alter each chara slightly and change the names of the ponies. But honestly I agree, work underground and just leak it out. Too many bronies have been looking forwards to this for so long.
ReplyDelete - appledash1158/2/13 8:12 PM
hasbro has no bro! everybody has been waiting for this, and dumbass hasbro just came and strolled along and canceled it D:<
ReplyDelete - Frost8/2/13 8:12 PM
Lets suppose I'm Hasbro. I'm trying to expand my market. I go to a video game developer and say "I would like a platformer game based off these characters". The game developer goes "Hmm, I'll pass. If people want a pony game they can go play this one on the internet for free."
ReplyDelete - Wolfgang Wang8/2/13 8:13 PM
Fuck Hasbro to the core. How many times are they still going to hurt the creative guys in the pony fandom? Fuck!
ReplyDelete - Frozen Shepard8/2/13 8:13 PM
You guys could try and work some kind of deal. Like this is free advertisement or something. You could put Hasbro ads in the game if you have to. We'd be willing to live with ads in the game.
ReplyDelete - Nick A Lot8/2/13 8:14 PM
I think that the EVO 'Money for Charity' probaly is the dettonant that meke HASBRO send the D6D
ReplyDelete - WhoAmI8/2/13 8:14 PM
This is just complete bullshit on so many levels. It really is. I've only recently heard of Fighting is Magic but I can already tell how much effort the dev team put into it, only for this shit to happen. Hasbro is already enough of a money-Hitler, and now they're just scraping the bottom of the barrel for every last drop. If the dev team were intending to make money off of Fighting is Magic, then I can understand why Hasbro would do this - But, the game is intended to be a free freaking fan game. There's absolutely no reason why this game should be C&D'd. After all, Super Smash Flash and all those other games never got C&D'd by Nintendo, and SSF used not just Nintendo characters, but many other characters from other companies as well, and those companies never had a problem with it. There's no reason why this game should be any different.
ReplyDelete - Dixon8/2/13 8:14 PM
Is it possible you say "leak" the unfinished copy on torrents site and claim that some brony hacker did it? We already got one leaked version of it so far, how about an update?
ReplyDelete - Frozen Shepard8/2/13 8:15 PM
This thing was going to be big at EVO, we can get some of the fighters in on this too.
ReplyDelete - Aqqy8/2/13 8:15 PM
This doesn't make any sense to me. This game has been in production for about a year, and Hasbro had nothing to say about it. All of a sudden, now that it's almost done, it gets a C&D. I can't help but wonder what changed, from when Mane6 announced their intent of this game, and now. I really hope this can get worked out, and what the person said below about sending letters--definitely do that.
ReplyDelete - TheAverageGuyTAG8/2/13 8:16 PM
ReplyDelete - Anonymous8/2/13 8:16 PM
Excuse a bit of copypasta, but anon is right. He brings up a few decent legal points which should help if they haven't already been thought of.
"All they can do now is set up a defense through fair use if they get sued. (It isn't fair use until it is determined by a court. Fair use varies on a case-to-case basis.)
On one hand, they do have good odds since they produced their own music and backgrounds. It is also non-profit. The most they copied are the flash vectors used to create the ponies, and even those have their own custom-made animations.
On the other hand, Hasbro is raking in dough so they are viable to set up a powerful team of prosecutors. Some of the copied content such as the flash vectors or any sound effects ripped from the show can be used against them.
I recommend that The Mane Six team gets at least one lawyer that specializes in the US laws of copyright and fair use. The fact that most of the content such as music was created rather than them doing something like rip "Smile Smile Smile" straight from the show, does give them a good fighting chance."
So, Mane6? dude, do you really think they would take the risk of some legal troubles in a court, for some guys? hasbro do not need it and at the end f the day, they must to care their franchise an its image, a game about fighting ponies with the name of their franchise would give a very bad message, specially when it's an remarkable game with articles in game spot for example, they are taking care about their franchise and their image. if mane six team wants to lounch their game, they must to change the name of the characters and the name of the game and locations, that is all mane six can to do in this moment.
ReplyDelete- Verdant Wasp8/2/13 8:17 PM
This are the saddest MLP related news I've ever come across.
I wish you guys good luck and hope that this'll be resolved peacefully. - Prism Smasher8/2/13 8:18 PM
If Hasbro knew what they were doing, they would buyout Mane6 and make them a subsidiary, allowing them to release the game as a Hasbro property.
Much like Microsoft did with Bungie.
And when you think about it, it doesn't have to stop at FiM.
Can you imagine a Transformers fighting game in this engine?
Seriously, talk to Hasbro about options.
I would so pay $60 to buy this.
And if it got ported to console?
I'd buy it again.
Remember Hasbro, never underestimate the buying power of a rabid fanbase. - Aaron Holle8/2/13 8:18 PM
What legal troubles, pray tell? Not getting as much money as they wanted in a court case? Because as I explained, that is the only negative thing that can happen.
ReplyDelete - Frozen Shepard8/2/13 8:21 PM
We will all work together to make this game happen one way or another.
ReplyDelete - Frozen Shepard8/2/13 8:21 PM
Not to mention that this game would just be free advertising for them.
ReplyDelete - TheBatmanNerd8/2/13 8:22 PM
Lauren Faust even said she loved this idea and wanted it to be made.
ReplyDelete - Frozen Shepard8/2/13 8:23 PM
If they don't at least give Mane6 some options of continuation, all the bronies can boycott hasbro
ReplyDelete For a 13 year old you are remarkably articulate, I must say. And you are correct, if they were wise they would excuse this. They recently had this problem with the plushies; but that can be explained as people profiting off the license. Here, there is no profit. There is nothing these people gain but the smiles on people's faces whilst they play the game.
In addition, while they don't stand to gain anything, Hasbro stands to gain something. You see, not everyone is a brony, or buying my little pony merchandise. Quite a few people who refuse the series may be attracted to it by a very good fighting game. It may not be many, but there is very high chance Hasbro would receive a small spike in profit upon the game's release.
Now, you don't need to know laws of copyright to understand Risk vs Confidence. They are pretty basic statistics terms; Confidence is the likelihood to succeed in an endeavor, risk is the chance to fail. There would be about 50% confidence that money is to be gained by Hasbro by leaving the game alone. But, there is a 100% risk that if they tell them cease and desist, no money can be gained from it. That isn't even adding in the damage to public relations.
While bronies may not be the number one source of money for Hasbro's MLP line, they can only stand to gain from their existence. They are hurting themselves for no explainable reason right now.
But, as a hope against hope, there is a possibility that Hasbro's cease and desist will be followed by a request to hire the team, and make the game for consoles as well as web. Extremely unlikely and changes how much confidence in the game making money (to about 45%). And again, the PR would be incredibly wonky.- Prism Smasher8/2/13 8:24 PM
No, they'd be paying for the rights to the game engine and development labor.
ReplyDelete If it can't be an independent non-profit venture, I'm hoping maybe you can work out a deal with Hasbro to officially licence the game for marketing to Bronies. After all the work that's gone into it, and all the attention it's gained, it would be a real shame on Hasbro's part to just throw it away.
ReplyDeleteNobody can see it right now,
but I am staring at Hasbro's logo with the cruelest, coldest, gaze I
can physically muster. I don't care if they have 'copyright' over
Friendship is Magic. The Mane 6 have been working on this game for
YEARS publicly, and they decide only NOW to put up a copyright claim!? Despite being completely quiet until now?
Despite the game receiving approval from both Lauren Faust and Jayson
Thiessan, the two people put primarily in charge of Friendship is Magic?
Despite the game being easily protected under fair-use as an
affectionate parody?
Along with being disappointed that this
might prevent me from playing the game, I feel bad for the Mane 6, who have been working so hard to get the game as far as it is now...I
just...*sigh* I really hope they overcome this, and wish them the best
of luck.- Spitfire8/2/13 8:26 PM
Bronies VS Lawyers...why don't we just re design the game as that :)
ReplyDelete - Jake Robsahm8/2/13 8:26 PM
Not how the American Copyright system works, actually. Big companies use it to bully smaller individuals, but it isn't technically true.
ReplyDelete - Draxter8/2/13 8:27 PM
All they need to do is move their website outside the US, and they are invincible.
ReplyDelete Sadly, that's not what those who are intimately familiar with US law and are active in the fandom have said. You say you've 'studied' it, but there's a difference between reading the law and understanding how precedent and case law affect the actual implementation and enforcement of it. It's an awful mess and horribly complicated.
And by 'active in the fandom,' I mean dealing with EXACTLY these kind of IP issues in trying to make good stuff happen for fans and large gatherings of fans. I hate to see this happen to the Mane 6 team, and I understand you've studied this, but someone who deals with this on a daily basis would politely disagree with your assertions, and I trust his judgement. I am certainly not trying to disparage you or anything, just pointing out that very knowledgeable people come to a very different conclusion, based on their understanding of and/or work in the legal system- dAnone8/2/13 8:27 PM
I think Hasbro really wants to take the title of "Dumbest company ever" from EA
And they are dangerously close with this one - Frozen Shepard8/2/13 8:28 PM
If every single brony joins in, Hasbro will lose a ton of money. we're one of their biggest sources of money
ReplyDelete - Sear Meter8/2/13 8:29 PM
Guys! Video Games are a form of art! They cannot do this as the team is not making any profits from this. You guys have to stand your ground on the matter!
ReplyDelete - Rainbow Dash8/2/13 8:29 PM
I hope they put up the source code on The Pirate Bay if they get shut down.
ReplyDelete - The Guy8/2/13 8:31 PM
"Trademark rights can also be lost through improper licensing or assignment. Where the use of a trademark is licensed (for example, to a franchisee) without adequate quality control or supervision by the trademark owner, that trademark will be canceled."
AKA - Not protecting your trademarks will result in cancellation because of lack of, "Quality control or supervision." - Amethyst_Brony8/2/13 8:31 PM
Hasbro did this stunt with the episodes. They shouldn't mark something as infringement unless they do it at the beginning of the development.
ReplyDelete One other thing to consider: If there is an unlicensed, pre-existing game out there, and your game studio develop one with similar character design or gameplay elements, the legal department will scream that there is now a risk of being sued for plagiarism or theft, and that this now poses a financial risk to the company. At that point, you have to disclose that to shareholders and the SEC, and now that affects your company's ability to borrow money or sell stock. There are whole levels of ramifications that depend on what seems like a no-brainer to the average gamer/person.
The legal world is COMPLETELY different from what we consider common sense. I don't like it, it can make life hell for a lot of people, but it is how the system has progressed, and it's what we have to live with until the political will is developed to overhaul it.- Ridley8/2/13 8:32 PM
To the two people who quit: You did the wrong thing.
Even if this isn't a lawyer within Hasbro just trying to further his career without warning, you can now take your almost complete game, slightly change the characters, change the names of the characters, and release the game as fair use. There is no possible way, no possible way, Hasbro will deal with the negative press of suing someone for using horses that kind of look like theirs. - Prism Smasher8/2/13 8:32 PM
You know what Hasbro needs?
A video game division.
No, Family Game Night doesn't count. - Mashiro Shiina8/2/13 8:33 PM
cmon give us the unfinished version even without online opcion
we will be happy...hasbro dind't have to know This is horrible. Hasbro has no right to stop this development as it falls within fair use as a non profit game. They may be able to push the point that it is using extensive amounts of their copyrighted work, but due to its non profit nature, there is little cause for a C&D letter. I hope you guys are able to get around this, as this game looks incredibly promising. Not to mention Hasbro will take a big hit in PR if this decision stays final.
ReplyDelete- Spitfire8/2/13 8:33 PM
No you know what Hasbro ACTUALLY needs...a stick remover...to help them remove the stick up their collective ass
ReplyDelete - Frezzingale8/2/13 8:34 PM
As long as they don't make the same decisions BronyDoc did this could work. Don't overestimate a fanbase bred from 4chan.
ReplyDelete - KaSu8/2/13 8:34 PM
Fuck... I've been looking forward to this game for almost a year now. Checked the site pretty much every day, rejoiced every time there was an update. Especially with 6 characters having been announced I was super hyped about the release.
And now that... I'm seriously upset right now.
You have my sympathies, Mane6. - Chasem8/2/13 8:35 PM
Submit what you already have to a torrent site! Please, PLEASE dont let that work to go to waste.


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Promoting the University's partnership with the Staten Island community, the Circolo Garibaldi—St. John's student Italian society—inducted four prominent borough leaders into its honorary membership on Thursday, February 14.
The group's third annual induction ceremony took place at the University's Staten Island campus. The honorary inductees were Anthony Navarino '80NDC, director of planning, Steven Siller Tunnel to Towers Foundation; Lois (Malko) Nicotra '77NDC, '83GEd and Richard Nicotra '76NDC, '86HON, chairman and president, respectively, the Nicotra Group; and State Senator Diane Savino '86C (D-NY).Read full story


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The goals of treatment for TMD syndrome include:
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Most doctors feel strongly that good, careful treatment for TMD should only include techniques that are simple and potentially reversible. Although a variety of treatments have been touted for TMD treatment, most doctors feel the more extreme, complex treatments have not proven helpful in the long term. They also note that some of these treatments, such as surgery, can have long-term negative effects.
Treatment may involve the following:
Lifestyle changesMedicationsOther treatmentsSurgery is rarely recommended for TMD. If you are advised to have surgery, get a second opinion. If surgery is recommended, carefully research its benefits.
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