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Photo of Vancouver's Hornby St Bike Lanes courtesy of Paul Krueger
An article in the Toronto Star newspaper yesterday brought to light a plan to bring a modest segregated bicycle network in Toronto's downtown core. This news would have been significant even with Toronto's previous mayor, the "bike-friendly" David Miller.
What makes this news drastically more significant in 2011 is the fact that the plan is being brought by the Rob Ford administration – a mayor who has historically said that bicycles don't belong on our streets.
Toronto is a city with tens of thousands bicyclists, but has a terribly inadequate, poorly maintained, non-segregated, disconnected network of bike lanes and routes where bike lanes are often treated as temporary parking by delivery trucks and taxi drivers.
The Ford administration is bringing forward a plan to bring Toronto its first curb-separated cycle tracks on downtown streets that either contain inadequate bike lanes, or nothing at all.
The measure is being cautiously hailed by me and many others in the city. If Ford is able to deliver this network, I have pledged to become a Ford supporter.
However, the Toronto Star article comments contain some genuine ignorance (and opposition) toward segregated bicycle infrastructure. And as always, the disingenuous trolls were out there spreading deceitful rubbish.
There seems to be five primary arguments against bringing segregated bicycle infrastructure to Toronto:
Argument 1: Bicyclists don't pay for the roads
Some people genuinely seemed to think that drivers singlehandedly pay for the roads. Others were just trolling by calling for mandatory bicycle licensing, testing and registration to pay for bike infrastructure.
We all know that our roads are paid for by municipal property taxes – which are paid for by everyone – including bicyclists. And since bicyclists can only use a subset of the roads that their tax dollars are paying for, bicyclists are actually subsidizing motorists.
Star Article comments:
jonno492 – It's interesting:
there are some on this post who argue that the city should pay to have segregated lanes for bicycles and yet feel they should not have to license their bicycles to help pay for these lanes.
GMP – Roads are paid for by everyone?
I thought roads and highway infrastructure was paid by the high taxes that we pay on gasoline.
builder.m – Fair Share:
Tax air pump stations. Tax bike tires. Tax helmets. Tax accessories like bells and lights. Tax bike sales. Make insurance obligatory. Make biker-ed obligatory. Make lights, helmets and bells obligatory.
Snowbirds1 – license bikes for $20/$30 per year:
not only would this help offset the total cost ( the monies could also be used for additional bike lanes) but it could also help in an emergency situation, god forbid something happens but should a cyclist become incapacitated and not able to communicate with emergency services the license could be used. I also think our police should crackdown and ticket some of these cyclist who run red lights, stop sign, not wearing helmets…etc under the Hwy Traffic Act as per the act, the license could aslo(sic) be used for this purpose as they do for motorists and/or when proper ID is not available.
Uncle Cool – Bike registrations coming…:
If specific lanes are coming for cyclists, perhaps it's time they paid for their part of the roads.
Commenter Joe LaFortune made some great points on why licensing bicycles makes no sense:
Inevitably in these, um, discussions, there are those who call for cyclists to be licensed. Here is why it is not likely to happen: motorists are licensed because they operate large, heavy, fast vehicles with the capacity to kill and severely injure. Toronto alone regularly sees about 60 deaths involving motor vehicles every year with several hundred serious injuries and billions of dollars in property damage. They are a serious threat on the roads to all other road users. Cyclists ride relatively light-weight, low-speed vehicles that cause few collisions (approx 10-15% according to TPS annual figures) and cause very little property damage. In other words, they are not a serious threat. Most adult cyclists are already licensed and insured drivers. Licensing has not made motorists any more law-abiding or safer (960,000 tickets issued by TPS in 2009 vs 2,800 to cyclists). Roads are public space to be shared by all.
Argument 2: Segregated Bike Lanes Don't Work
There seemed to be a variety of arguments against segregated bicycle infrastructure, but most of them seemed to be made by people who have never left Toronto and haven't seen photos or videos of bike infrastructure in other cities:
Star Article comments:
leBloque – curbs for separate bike lanes:
"someone better think this one through a little further. The curb will become a hazard for the cars! They are difficult to see because they are so low and it is very easy for a car to "mount" the curb, becoming trapped"
Rossvegas – No, No, No.:
I'm both a biker and a driver, and this proposed system won't work for either constituency. 1. There will be a rash of cyclists getting "doored" on the passenger side of the cars, 2. How are these narrow paths going to be cleared in the winter time? and 3. There will be countless accidents from drivers making right hand turns (at both green and red lights) across the bike lanes.
rgibson2 – Curbs could make it worse for most cyclists:
Curbs to separate the bike lanes from the vehicles are a great idea, but only if the bike lanes are wide enough for cyclists to pass one another. Otherwise, only the slowest cyclist will be in the bike lane and the rest of us will be riding in the roadway. At the moment, most of the bike lanes are far to narrow for cyclists to pas each other and avoid the storm drains. In addition, Sherbourne St. should be repaved. It is a minefield of potholes and pavement seams and few cyclists use it because of its atrocious condition.
c9dxmo – And when it snows:
How's the snow going to get plowed away….Use your brains people…Why are 99.99999% of the people being annoyed by .000000000000001% of the people.
Guardian Aspect – This will only create problems:
… when cyclists, with an illusion of safety, zip into an intersection, right into the blind spot of a truck who was there first and was just about to turn right. Then it will be chalked up to the driver's carelessness, despite the fact that these kinds of accidents are entirely caused by poor design. In fact a study in Helsinki found that segregated bicycle lanes actually *increased* the rate of accidents! This dogmatic, impractical, ideological project is one gravy train that Ford needs to bring to a stop.
ADSAM – Curbs on Bike Lanes:
Curbs between bike lanes & driving lanes are a 'ridiculous idea'. In an urgent situation, emergency vehicles need close safe access to the sidewalks, as do vehicles stopping toa(sic) drop off, children, seniors or handicapped people who would need to negotiate an extra curb to get to the sidewalk. Snow removal & street cleaning too, would be slower & more expensive because the equipment & plows woulds(sic) need to Double Dip, roads, & bike lanes separately. Curbs will also jacks up the installation costs of new bike lanes.
First of all, segregated bicycle infrastructure needs to be wide enough to allow bicyclists to overtake other bicyclists – that is true. Montreal and Vancouver have segregated two-way bike lanes that allow bicyclists to go into the on-coming lane (when clear) to overtake a bicyclist (if there isn't enough space).
European cities like Copenhagen or Amsterdam typically have cycle tracks that are plenty wide enough to overtake another bicyclist.
To prevent "door prizes" when parked cars are present, a buffer zone should be built in. New York's 9th Ave is a good example of how you can have a buffer zone beside parked cars – however, this requires more space.
Vancouver's Hornby bike lane and Montreal's segregated infrastructure don't have this issue because for the most part, cars aren't allowed to park directly beside the curb. But in the places where cars are allowed to park next to the curb, the curb is wide enough to create a buffer for car passengers to get out without impeding bicyclists.
Regarding curb visibility, drivers don't currently have any issues avoiding the curbs on our existing sidewalks, so I don't see how this will be much different.
But even if this was considered an issue, you could always use bollards (like they use in Montreal), fences or grass islands like they use in China, or parked cars like they use in New York City.
For clearing the bike paths of snow, Toronto already has small plows it uses to clear sidewalks and the waterfront recreational trail in the winter. There's no reason why they couldn't use these plows to clear segregated bike lanes.
Argument 3: Our climate won't support bicycles year round
A common argument is that Canada has 4-6 months of winter. In Toronto, this certainly is an exaggeration.
Toronto's average high temperature is only below zero degrees Celsius for two months out of the year (January and February), and on average there are only a handful of days each year that it gets enough snow where riding a bicycle in the city is challenging.
If you're still not convinced, leave it to the Dutch to convince you that bicycling can be done year round – even through one of the worst winters the Netherlands has ever seen (2009/2010).
Star Article comments:
Sneaky Long – Good use of tax dollars?:
I understand the safety issue. Just curious if we know how many people actually use these bike lanes? During our 4-6 months of winter? Cover of Macleans "Stuck in Traffic" and how we spend 32 working days per year stuck. Sure more bike lanes will help with that. How much does all this cost?
bigbrother – Wow, thats(sic) dumb!:
What about snowmobiles, will they have a dedicated lane too? How will snow be removed from these tiny bike lanes? These lanes are nothing more than accomodating(sic) someones(sic) recreation, our climate does not allow bikes as a proper method of full time transportation.
westender – Sounds like a snow nightmare:
You guys are working on the assumption Toronto is right next to Miami Beach.
Argument 4: Bicyclists don't follow the rules, don't deserve infrastructure
This is the silliest argument I have ever encountered: that all bicyclists don't obey the rules, so we don't deserve proper infrastructure. If this was a pre-requisite for building roads, then we wouldn't have any roads, because many motorists break the rules every single day as well.
In fact, on the highway, you would be hard pressed to find a single car that isn't breaking the maximum speed limit law.
Furthermore, motorists breaking the rules can severely injure or kill other people, so if we are concerned about traffic safety, we should be trying to increase enforcement of motorists for breaking the rules.
Star Article comments:
busterx1 – Never in my lifetime:
If cyclists want access to more bike lanes with better protection they should learn the rules of the road FIRST. If I drove my car they way cyclists drive around the city I'd have my license taken away. Tax the bikers. Require registration fees, police MUST enforce the rules of the road and require licensing with testing just like cars. If I can't drive drunk or weave in and out of traffic at will then the cyclists should suffer the same fate.
DTR2 – No need for bike lanes:
bikers ride on sidewalks all the time. Yesterday I was almost hit by a madman at Bloor and Avenue Road. He was zig-zagging between cars and pedestrians.This happens every day all over TO, Cops do not seem to care.
Straight Shooter – Dumb:
This seems like a huge waste of cash, and cash is something that Toronto does not have. Why not just increase the penalties for motor vehicles hitting cyclists and also increase the penalties for cylcists(sic) driving like maniacs? If cyclists want respect, they need to stop driving with little reguard(sic) for any laws.
socialactivist – there are people riding bikes at night…with no lights or reflectors…:
I am just amazed regarding idiot bikers…who expect…car drivers to see them at night with no reflective gear…Time to change the rules for bikers….to focus on safety…….on the road…
Argument 5: Bike lanes cause traffic congestion
Bike lanes "cause" traffic congestion, right? No, cars cause traffic congestion, not bicycles. The more people that drive, the more traffic congestion we have.
The more people we get on bicycles, the more space there is on the roads for motorists. Bicycles only take up a fraction of the space that cars take, so as far as capacity is concerned, bicycles are far more scalable than automobiles.
To make bicycling more enticing, proper infrastructure is important, and the more desirable bicycling is, the more room drivers will have for their cars on the roads.
Star Article comments:
Spliceit – Bike lanes in Montreal are a whole lane wide:
Toronto is not full of one way streets and taking away a live lane to accomodate(sic) a few bikes will cause more polution(sic) from cars idleing(sic) in the traffic. Just like those stupid HOV lanes, more polution(sic) is put in the air due to the traffic jams caused by taking a live lane out of the equation. The engineers/planners who thought that up should be fired.
tax to death – Change the traffic light policy not put more concreate(sic) in:
How about stop frustrating drivers, by timing the lights to make you stop at every intersection.(each light is connected to a centralized computer system with software designed for this purpose) It would make it safer for both Pedestrians and Cyclists. I go to cities where the lights are timed to facilitate the movement of traffic. People are friendlier drivers and less aggressive.
Johny Smith – Are you kidding me?:
Seriously?!? Enough with the bike lanes. Traffic is bad enough. If it's not more streetcars, it's more bike lanes… It's us drivers that pay for the roads, so when do we get consideration? They ruined Dundas St. E. and Eastern Ave with bike lanes. Traffic crawls and there's rarely any bikes…
James D. Schwartz is the editor of The Urban Country. You can contact James at firstname.lastname@example.com.
Related Articles:
- Vancouver Approves Hornby Street Dedicated Bike Lanes (Oct 2010)
- You're Welcome Mr. Motorist (Jan 2011)
- Montreal Bicycle Ridership Up 35-40% (Dec 2010)
- New York Bike Lanes Explained (Nov 2010)
- Motorists Against Bicycle Infrastructure (Oct 2010)


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APPLICATION OF THE CRITERIA In applying the Classification criteria the following approach has been adopted. At the broad level, each division has been made relatively homogenous in terms of the violence and acquisition criteria described above. This means that in general, a division does not include both offences where violence is involved, and offences where violence is not involved. There are exceptions to this general rule, notably Division 13, which includes riot and affray together with non-violent offences such as censorship crimes; and Division 06, which includes armed robbery together with demands made via a letter. This latter offence could be considered non-violent in nature. In both of these situations it was considered that the overall intent of the divisions overrode strict application of the criteria. Similarly, divisions generally avoid mixing offences where the intent is acquisitive, with offences where the primary intent is not acquisitive. The exception to this rule is Division 06, in which blackmail/extortion is grouped together with robbery. The former offence may be intended to cause the victim loss of something other than property, or alternatively, to act in ways not necessarily resulting in an acquisitive gain on the part of the offender. Again, it was considered that the overall intent of the divisions overrode strict application of the criteria. Attempts, threats, intentions, and conspiracies are generally classified in the same subdivision as the actual offence. For example, conspiracy to steal is classified alongside actual stealing offences in Division 08. Divisions 01 to 06 of the Classification involve offences committed against a person. That is:
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164The Importance of Sense Control in Spiritual Life
We are continuing on our discussion of the Second Chapter of Srila Prabhupada's Bhagavad-gita As It Is:
Krishna says (Bg. 2.57): "He who is without attachment, who does not rejoice when he obtains good, nor lament when he obtains evil, is firmly fixed in perfect knowledge."
One of the symptoms of a person in Krishna consciousness is that he is transcendental to the continuous changing situation of happiness and distress he faces in the material world.
We all know in our own lives that sometimes we are in a "happy" situation and sometimes we are in a "distressful" situation.
Our natural tendency is to work to try and maximize the happy situations in our life and minimize the distressful situations. However a devotee understands that the nature of the material world is full of duality and there will always be distressful and so-called happy situations coming and going, and we have no control over this. No matter how hard we work to maximize our happiness and minimize our distress we will still suffer as much as we are destined to suffer due to our bad karma and we will "enjoy" to the extent our good karma allows us to.
"One who is able to withdraw his senses from sense objects, as the tortoise draws his limbs within the shell is understood to be truly situated in knowledge." (Bg. 2.58)
Almost everyone we see in the material world is a servant of his senses. Instead of controlling their senses their actions are dictated by their senses. They are controlled by their senses. The eyes see some beautiful thing and they run to that place to get a better look, the noise smells some beautiful flavor cooking and they run to that spot to enjoy the smell. The tongue is hankering for some particular food or drink so they run to the place where they can get that food or drink.
The senses are compared to poisonous snakes. They want to act very freely and without any restrictions. However, if we want to make advancement in spiritual life, we have to control these poisonous snakes, like a snake charmer. The snake charmer never lets his snakes act independently. Similarly we should never allow our senses to act independently. We need to control our senses by the mind an the intelligence.
There are many instructions in the revealed scriptures, some of them are do-not's and some of them are do's. Unless we are able to follow the do's and the do-non's, restricting ourselves from sense enjoyment, it is not possible to be firmly fixed in Krishna consciousness.
The example that Krishna gives here is that of the tortoise. The tortoise can at any time wind up his senses and then exhibit them again for particular purposes.
Similarly the senses of Krishna conscious persons are used only for some particular purpose in the service of the Lord. And are withdrawn otherwise. Keeping the senses always engaged in the service of Krishna is the example set by the analogy of the tortoise, who keeps his senses within.
"The embodied soul may be restricted from sense enjoyment, though the taste for sense objects remains. But, ceasing such engagements by experiencing a higher taste, he is fixed in consciousness." (Bg. 2.59)
Unless one is on the spiritual platform it is not possible to refrain from sense enjoyment. Some make an artificial attempt to control the senses, by following the rules and regulations of the Vedas without developing any love for Krishna, but this is like a doctor restricting a sick patient from certain types of food. The patient, however, still desires to eat these types of food the doctor has prohibited him from eating. He does not like these restrictions placed on him by the doctor, nor does he loose his taste for the food that he is not supposed to be eating.
Trying to control the senses by some spiritual process like astanga yoga or impersonal mental speculation is like this. Although the person practising this process is trying to control his senses and may even control his senses for some time, he does not loose the taste for the sense gratification which he is forcibly trying to restrict himself from. And where there is the smallest flaw in his spiritual process he will again fall back to the material platform and again engage in sense gratification.
The only way one can actually control the senses permanently is if one can experience a "higher taste." To give up a lower pleasure one has to experience a higher pleasure.
Otherwise, no matter how much austerity and sense denial he practices, the desire for sense gratification will remain in his heart and at some time he will again try to satisfy that desire, thus falling from the spiritual platform and again descending to material consciousness.
One who has tasted the beauty of the Supreme Lord Krishna in the course of his advancement in Krishna consciousness has experienced a higher, spiritual, taste. Because of experiencing this higher taste he no longer has any attraction to the "lower taste." He no longer has a taste for dead material things.
In the beginning of spiritual life there are restrictions which we need to force ourselves to follow. In Krishna consciousness Srila Prabhuapda has summarized these restrictions into four:
- No illicit sex life.
- No meat eating.
- No gambling.
- No intoxication.
To advance in Krishna consciousness we must follow these principles, but we need to understand also that the restrictions will only be successful if we have a taste for Krishna consciousness. Dry renunciation will not last for very long. We must come to the platform of experiencing transcendental pleasure from the spiritual platform and when we are relishing that ever new transcendental pleasure we will no longer have any attraction at all to the so-called pleasures of the material world.
And the way to relish that higher, spiritual, taste is through the offensless chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra:
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Please look for my next mail in a couple of days and we will go into more detail on the process of sense control and how we can develop the higher, spiritual, taste.
This is adapted from Srila Prabhuapda's Bhagavad-gita As It Is. If you do not have the book please get it and read it from:
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa
164 Responses to The Importance of Sense Control in Spiritual Life
Shree Krishna said, "We must control our senses and desires."
I'm 17 year old, I have desire to Listen to moden Music, and watch Movies, etc. So should we also control these desires? Is it wrong or should be in limit? -
how is control my mind and how is control in my soul, which krishna mantra i will chant then after i will control mind and soul please give a suggesstion
Madhudvisa Prabhu, just wanted to know if all the books available for sale on krishnastore.com.au are unedited or not?
Jai Shri Krishna madhudvisa dasa Ji,
I'm very glad to have your article on Bhagwat gita as it is by sirla prabhu paad Ji…
Sir , I have a question could I get the endless grace of supreme lord Sri Krishna…. I usually during worship do hare Krishna mantra kirtan , read Bhagwat gita and do chanting of hare Krishna mantra 108 times once in a day… Bat I'm unable to feel him and to see him …. So please tell the way through which I can also connect with lord Sri Krishna directly….. -
Dear Madhudvisa dasa, thank you for communicating God's message to me regularly as you do. I really look forward to receiving the emails you send, with the explanations you give about the Bhagavad-gita. I appreciate your sharing, & am forwarding your messages to friends who are also showing much interest in Krsna consciousness, as well as, reading them to my 14 yr old son, as preliminary introduction to reading and understanding the whole story of Bhagavad-gita, as it is, elucidated so kindly for us, by our dear friend and spiritual master, Srila Prabhupada. Thank you for these supplementary explanations that do indeed, assist with deeper understanding and inspiration for experiencing the higher taste of Transcendental consciousness. I am aware of significant positive changes in my perspective which are, as a consequence, creating an experience of being that I recognise, from my readings, to be spiritual growth. The person I thought I was is no longer, and the person I am becoming wants only to be immersed in the serenity that consumes me when I am indulging in Vedic wisdom.
Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.
Peace be with us all.
God is Good. So good.
♡ Mandi -
I am an 18 year old girl and I wish to be a rocket scientist. Does that also count as a material desire? In other words, other than the four restrictions placed above, are there any more restrictions that I must keep in mind in order to become a Krshna conscious person?
Hare Krsna!!!
Dandvata Pranam Prabhu jee.Thanks for explaining how to fix ourselves in perfect knowledge. I have been chanting Hare Krsna Maha mantra from last 4-5 years. I complete 16 rounds daily in two to three go. I also observe 4 X regulative principles, however, I could not develop higher taste so that I could control our senses. May I request you to elaborate further.Your servants' servant: Rajendra Yadav
Hare Krishna!
Yes, that is exactly right(what Madhudvisa Dasa Prabhu) said. Even I am the same… I first pray to Krishna to engage me in His service. …And when Krishna gives me the opportunity to serve Him, I try to avoid it by giving various excuses…And then I blame Krishna for not engaging me in His service.That is the worst thing. If we actually follow Srila Prabhupada's instructions , there is no doubt at all that we'll advance in Krsna Consciousness and finally go back home , back to Godhead…
Srila Prabhupada said: asat sanga tyaga ei vaishnava achara, yare dekha tare kaha krsna upadesha, sa vai manah krsna padaravindayo. Do you follow them ? Then how can you expect to advance in Krsna Consciousness? Each and every instruction of Srila Prabhupada is important.
So kindly read Srila Prabhupada's books . Although you may think that these instructions are difficult to follow, they are actually simple, and when you actually follow these instructions , then you can feel Srila Prabhupada's mercy pouring on you.
You have just no idea how merciful Srila Prabhupada is! You have to whole-heartedly surrender unto him…Although I am a lame devotee(in the true sense of the term) ,I can always feel contact with Prabhupada and a big change in myself. Even to the worst of worst devotees, Prabhupada shows unimited mercy. There is no doubt of it!
So just surrender to Srila Prabhupada..That's it!
I have been participating in Bhagvad Gita study group since January at our local ISKCON Temple. I love the group and the lessons. However, I have learned quite a bit about the organization, the GBC, and many unsavory occurrences that have sullied the Krsna Consciousness movement throughout the 50 year history of ISKCON. I am new to this, so it has been weighing heavily upon me for several weeks now. Since subscribing to your newsletter, I have felt more hopeful for a practice outside of ISKCON.
Tonight, I happened to read your response to "Hello! I told the ISKCON Temple President about Prabhupada!!"
In it, you answered everything that has been weighing on my heart! I would so like to evolve in Krishna Consciousness and honor Srila Prabhupada's teachings without embroiling myself with the past and present wrongs of ISKCON. I am ready do everything asked of me to become a pure devotee, but I cannot in good conscience be a part of a greater organization that i don't respect.Prabhupada deserves an untarnished legacy and devotees unburdened by the heaviness of political and administrative cross-purposes. I would like to be a part of such a renewal!
I feel very hopeful that something pure, in the pursuit of Krsna Consciousness, is becoming a reality. it's my hope I can help make it so.Deepest appreciation and Hare Krsna,
Bija -
Hare krishna Guruji
I have some Question please answer to it.
1. i am married men want to know that physical relation with wife is allow or not?.
2. i want to wear tulsi neckbad doest is allow for married men
3. i want to buy japa breads is these also allowed for married men or not
please answer this Question GurujiHare krishna
Hare krsna prabhu!
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Is it true that Jayapataka swami is eternal associate of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu? -
Hare Krishna to u devotee. I would like thank you, your service is amazing. Every e-mail I read n I am thinking that how merciful Krishna that through you we gaining this knowledge … Heartily appriciate your effort .. Hare Krishna
Sairam and Hare Krishna
Even after following the four restrictions mentioned in the article people like to me find it very difficult to control our senses. Kindly advise me whether taking regular vegetarian food or liking it would amount to sensual pleasuresWith prayers
Hare Krishna Prabhu. This email is actually meant for reawakening us back to the state we were when we joined the movement. We begun with full attention and dropped back to the previous state, then trying to climb up again became very difficult. This mail is a booster, Hare Krishna. Thank you so much.
26 Sept. 2015
Hare Krishna Prabhu
Dear Sirs: Namaskarams.
The central idea of senses control is by mind and intelligence exercise devoting one's mind in the promotion of Krishna consciousness. It is a difficult task indeed and one has to develop an all-round restrictions on one's own the worldly pleasures to a large extent thus achieve Krishna consciousness by prayer and devotion to Lord Krishna daily.
Hare Krishna, Jai Prabhupada,
Sir, Can you please help me.
Though I chant the mahamantra all day while doing my work but when I chant on beads, its become difficult, cause it is only at that time I want to complete the round, otherwise only mahamantra is the only song that I always hear, and it is the only sound that gives me peace.
Thanks. -
Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisance. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Sir, you told about developing a higher taste. I am asking this question because I sincerely want to excel in Krishna consciousness but I fail every time I try.
As you told in the beginning one has to restrict his senses and develop a taste for Krishna consciousness. I am chanting 4 rounds everyday but I find controlling my senses very difficult and that's why I am unable to continue it offense essay. For shunning a particular thing there should be a higher substitute, but I am not able to find a higher substitute for my eyes and sexual desires at this stage. I try very hard to control my mind not to engage in bad activities but I fall everytime. I know I am a mundaner but it will be great if you can advice me.
Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisance. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
13 Sept.2015
Hare Krishna Prabhu
Dear Sirs:
I am very much inspired the awareness you highlighted and cautioned with the senses control in spiritual life but its practical implementation is difficult. But one can prepare to some extent to practise senses control with one's intense devotion to Lord Krishna to guide him the evil snakes. One must have a strong determination to control senses and achieve freedom from senses enemies. Ofcourse the exception is the legal way of leading the family life right in all respects as laiddown in Bhagawadgita and various hindu scriptures.
Hare Krishna Prabhu.
Hare krishna how to control our senses ?? It is biggest problem but according to me if we sacrifies ourself to krishna its not at all difficult task to control our senses because the lord himself take the care of a person who surrender to him..so first we need to serve the god with full love and sacrification..thank you for sending me the letter about controlling our senses..
Thank you Prabhuji for all great information. Hare Krishna!
Hare Krishna Guru brother,
I want you to explain me the shlok no 35 of third chapter of Bhagwan Gita. Because it is explained according to varna ashram Dharma, I don't understand how to implement in day to day life.
Thank-you. -
Hare Krishna Prabhu
All the Glories to Srila Prabhu PadaI want to know the prior and post rules and regulation to Initiation process
am interested to take initiation. please let me know clearly -
hari bol
Jaya Srila Prabhupada -
please tell me how do i live my life i have habits which i should not have please guide me
Hare Krishna Madhudvisa Dasa,
Thank you for the very interesting read.
I look forward to reading the article that will be coming after this.I had a question about chaning your Karma but I read some of the comments and found a question you answered.
Yoshan Nico Oree -
THANKS FOR THE THE VERY VALUABLE UNDERSTANDABLE INFORMATION…aNGIE-rAY
Hare Krishna Prabhu,
What does it mean by offenseless chanting? Does it mean in pure love without any expectations from the lord?
pranaam maharaja
hare krishna maharaja, where you live, in america???please are you a initiation giving guru? iam chanting the 16 rounds hare krishna mantra, sometimes more, the five rules following. can youplease, bless me?
Hare Krishna, Madhuvisa dasa!
Reading your newsletter makes me so happy, I like it very much. Thank You.
Anna -
Hare Krishna Madhudvisa Prabhuji !
In the above comment you state that the soul is "trapped" within the material body.
Can you explain how the soul is trapped inside the material body ?Because I see people enjoying materially and they seem to give the impression that they
are really free and having a good time.
Of course there is lot of suffering also but the people around me seem to care very less about genuine spiritual life and everyone is intoxicating meat eating and sex-life and gambling and only interest is in earning as much money as possible and enjoying materially.Nobody seems to have any regrets about living materially except when there is suffering people tend to question "why me" .
And how much freedom is there in spiritual life as opposed to material life that it becomes attractive to people to take it up seriously ?
Brijesh Dani -
hare krishna
i dont know y bt nw a days i feel m gtng more angry n i truly belive tht ths anger wl surely made me face many problems ahead..n i xpect tht by chanting hare krishna i'l b able to control my anger, wht's ur opinion on the same.. -
In the material world what can i gain from continuous KRISHNA Nam japa?
Hare Krishna!
Your articles are so informative on Krishna Consciousness that I look forward to it everyday. Thank you very much for sending it once in two days or three days. It is great work you are doing encapsulating what the acharyas have said.
Now I have a question: What are the four Sampradayas and how did they origin?
Looking forward to your reply
Sukumaran. -
hare krishna prabhu thanku very much for this article
the news letters are really encouraging and to achieve what is contained in the letters, it has to be practiced in ones life.
However, the newsletters are knowledgeable and eye-opener.Many thanks for the mails
Sanjay Kr Shukla
Hare krishna Madhudvisa dasa ji,
very nice article…. such articles helps me a lot.. be i know i am a kind of person who get distracted very fast…. and daily dosage of krishna consciousness..like reading Gita, your articles motivates me…..
I am very new to all this things thus pls help me wid my silly ques., i would like to ask what do you mean by this "the offensless chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra:
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare".what is this offensless chating?
and i have always noticed that every one recommends 16 rounds of the maha-mantra. what is this 16 rounds? does it mean chanting 108 times the mantra in a 16 round per day? m confused
Hare krishna.
Srila prabhupad has described GAMBLING as one of the four restricted activities.
Is trading in stock market also considered as GAMBLING?
Will be very grateful if I am shown the right path.
hare krishna
dear brother
thanks you for give such a inspiring insight .please tell me that i am not initiated and even then chanting 10 round of mala daily of hare Krishna mantra along with gita reading .is this practice of mine is benificial tome? -
it was excellent that you was given on sense controlling and i have an question that what are the do's and dont's in vedas tell me
Dear Madhudvisa Prabhu, thank you for sending me these wonderful newsletters. They're full of knowledge & spiritual wisdom. They are so simple to understand, effective and they wonderfully sums up the divine knowledge found in Srila Prabhupada's books. I wish you to continue writing these newsletters and serving Srila Prabhupada forever.
I have no words to describe the spiritual power that lies in Srila Prabhupada books and lectures. I request every devotee here to read sincerely Srila Prabhupada books and lectures everyday with enthusiasm. Srila Prabhupada's books and lectures are no ordinary thing. They are the greatest source of all inspiration coming directly from the Supreme Lord Himself. Please read them with enthusiasm daily. Also, nothing is easy without hard work and determination. Working hard for Lord Krishna keeps our mind & senses engaged. As the saying goes "An empty brain is a devils workshop". This is so true. So, please be engaged in Lord Krishna's service every moment. Don't be lazy. Work hard for Lord Krishna's pleasure and not for yourself. Let Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Krishna be your Boss, your Friend, your Mother, your Father, your Master, the only Enjoyer of all your activities daily. And please avoid non-devotees association strictly (idiot box-Tv, Newspapers,Internet sap our spiritual strength and desire to cultivate spiritual Knowledge). Above all chant Hare Krishna mahamantra. These things will really help to control the senses from my experience. Once again thanks to Madhudvisa Prabhu to write these amazing newsletters and sending them to my mailbox. I simply love them. Hare Krishna!
JAI SRI KRISHNA,thank you for sending me mails about BHAGVAD GITA.It's very easy to understand.I make sure that I read your mail everyday and I am seriously awaiting your mails.It's a real eye opener.Actually there is one thing over which I have been pondering for long.I find that true KRISHNA devotees,not only give up meat,alcohol,etc. but also mushrooms.Why is it so?Hoping for a reply soon.Thanks in advance.HARE KRISHNA.
If illicit sex is not good then why it has been given to the human being
Hare Krishna Prabhu ji,
I want you to ask you a Question? Actually, Yesterday i have a conversation or i can say that the debate was there with a few group of People in which a Question was arose.
When will the soul entered in the mother womb? What is the time or any circumstances or anything special about it?
I was talking about the GOD and the Soul but i am unable to satisfied when this Question was arose? -
Hare Krishna and dandawats to all,
Our senses are like ten wives says pralad maharaj,Further he says that it pulls us in various direction , and the soul as their helpless husband is torn in between them ,actually the crux of this leela is to make us understand that as much as we dabble with our body and material bodily activities the concept and experience of soul will get dimmder and dimmer,it is like a balance whichever side you go the that side will become heavier and the other side lighter.The more you dabble with devotees, krishna katha, prasadam, and spiritual activities more the concept of the soul will fructify , the experience of the soul and the body are inversely proportionate with one another , a practicing devotee will definitely experience such swings but we know which side to go , the wives are called as "vishay"In Srimad Bhagwatam Pralad maharaj pacifies lord narshimha with prayers
jihvaikato 'cyuta vikarsati mâvitrptâ
sisno 'nyatas tvag-udaram sravanam kutascit
ghrâno 'nyatas capala-drk kva ca karma-saktir
bahvyah sapatnya iva geha-patim lunantiMy dear Lord, O infallible one, my position is like that of a person who has many wives, all trying to attract him in their own way. For example, the tongue is attracted to palatable dishes, the genitals to sex with an attractive woman, and the sense of touch to contact with soft things. The belly, although filled, still wants to eat more, and the ear, not attempting to hear about You, is generally attracted to cinema songs. The sense of smell is attracted to yet another side, the restless eyes are attracted to scenes of sense gratification, and the active senses are attracted elsewhere. In this way I am certainly embarrassed.
in katho Upanishads it is said
Atmanam rathinam vidhi
Shareeram rathameva tu
Budhim tu sarathim vidhi
Manah pragrahamevachaA model for the working of the principle through the intellect, mind and body is described here. Know the spirit within as the sole passenger sitting in a chariot. The chariot is the body associated with that spirit. The intellect sits in the driving seat and controls the horses harnessed to the chariot. Mind is the reins by which the charioteer gets hold of the horses, to make them perform in accordance with its will.
Indriyani hayanyahur
Vishayansteshu gocharan
Atmendriya manoyuktam
Bhoktetyahur maneeshinahThe sense organs are the horses. The objects in this universe keep pulling the sense organs towards them. The intelligent persons understand that the inner spirit is the true consummator of all objects. The spirit acts through the mind to reach the objects through the sense organs.
Yastuavijnanavan bhavatyuktena manasa sada
Tasyendriyanyavashyani dushtashva iva sarathehWhen one ignores this model it disturbs the union of mind and inner spirit. Then the sense organs work without respecting any control. They run in all directions dissipating energy like a group of foul horses in the hands of an incompetent charioteer. The charioteer has no control over the horses and eventually they topple the chariot. No meaningful progress is possible in such a scenario.
Yastu vijnanavan bhavati yuktena manasa sada
Tasyendriyani vashyani sadashva iva saratheFor one who acknowledges this model the mind is united with the inner spirit. His sense organs remain perfectly under control like good horses in the hands of a competent charioteer.
Yastuavijnanavan bhavatyanyamanaskah sada/shuchih
Na sa tatpadamapnoti samsaram chadhigachchatiBy ignoring this model the mind gets scattered and turbulent. It becomes incapable of conceiving higher realities. He is trapped in the ocean of worldly transactions. He can not attain that state where one is free from the cycles of birth and death.
Yastu vijnanavan bhavati samanaska sada shuchh
Sa tu tatpadamapnoti yasmat bhooyo na jayateWhen this model is acknowledged his mind remains organized and clear. He acquires the power to reach that state where one is free from the cycle of birth and death.
The best method to control your senses is to apply it in the service of Rishikesa the owner of the senses
Toung -by krishna prasadam and bhagwat discussions
Ears-by hearing bhagwat katha
Nose- by smelling the flowers offered to the lord
Belly-by filling prasadam
Eyes- by having darshan of the lord
Hands-by doing krishna seva in the temple
Feet-by going to vrindavan and such places
Genitals- by producing krishna conscious children and so oncontrol over senses cannot be artificially done this is the only and only method , as the senses are different forms of Maya , and Maya can be only controlled by the Mayadish the owner of maya,and Rishikesha the owner of the senses
sanjay ghosh(dasanu das)
Hare Krishna
Madhudvisa dasaThe Maha Mantra came from Lord Krishna Himself. We have to accept it as it is. The present time is the period of Kali Yuga and humanity are controlled by maya. Our life span is very short and we don't have time to engage in meditation or penance. Being merciful, Lord Krishna gave us The Maha Mantra – the greatest gift from God to humanity. By chanting God's name we can easily eradicate our sins and able to go back home to Godhead. The name Rama means salvation, according to the episode of Ramayana. When Lord Rama leaving the earth, He told to Hanuman/God's greatest devotee "those who call my name will receive salvation." At present time, Lord Krishna is coming to us through His best devotee Srila Prabhupada.
Srila Prabhupada is God's vehicle and helping us to know God and love God.
Hare Krishna,
Sara -
Dear Madhudvisa dasa,
I am very happy to read all your newsletters which provide lot of honey to my mind and refresh me to think Krishna always.
As I returned from USA last week only I could not concentrate much to go through the newsletters.
In the second chapter Gita Arjuna asks Krishna about the qualities of Sthita Prgna and Krishna gave elaborate details . To achieve to that state this life may not be sufficient.I am really enjoining your newsletters with loads od information and like to continue to recive them Let me chant Hare krishna mahamantra
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare HareI have one question to ask why we chant Rama also when we chant Krishna?
Thank you once again
Yours sincerely,
Hare Krishna K.V.Rangaswamy. -
Hare Krishna,
Why don't we spend some time in reading articles in the web site of krishna.org. It will help us to let go our lower self/maya and come up to higher self – consciousness. No one will be free from illusion of matter, without reading The Gita; Chanting Hare Krishna; Communing with Krishna; Accepting Krishna wholeheartedly as the Lord of the universe. People who are posing questions without chanting, reading the Gita are worshipers of themselves. They are full of pride. Pride is sin because Lord Krishna is not honored as God. The price of pride is reincarnation – another suffering.
Surrendering to Lord Krishna is the ultimate goal of humanity. With Lord Krishna, we can have peace, harmony, love, understanding, wisdom, etc. Everyone should Dance with Krishna;
Eat with Krishna; Talk with Krishna to have a meaningful and blissful life.
Hare Krishna and Be Happy,
Sara -
Hare Krishna Prabhu,
My Humble obeisances to Srila Prabhupad.
How can we do the offenseless chanting? What are the offenses to be avoided while chanting? Is it necessary to chant at a calm and quiet place?
Please advice.
Hari Bol
your humble servant,
Venkatraman -
thank you for the e-mail letters, it is good to be reminded…
i forget sense gratification i forget to eat sometimes.
i shoveled snow, and reinjured a prevoiusly operated hernia.
that hurts,,, how does one overcome a nagging pain?
I have been breathing, and meditating, and chanting, i am
happy, but my muscle still hurts. -
Jai shri Krishna,
guruji what is the simplest way of surrender to lord krishna without quiting our daily work & how can I live in krishna consciousness throughout the day(actually in every second) even while doing a stressful job?
please reply -
Hare krishna Prabhuji
Dandavat pranam
Getting e-mails from you are love letters from Krishna. Please prabhuji do send me your e-mails as I am far away from Iskcon temple and devotees. Being from Indian origin all I hear from other people about my duty is to look after my family and run a business. Next time I hear these types of comments I am going to show them your email. Thank you for clarifying this point that our first duty is to surrender to krisna and follow his instructions.
Your servant
Mahesh -
Dear MadhudvisaDasa,
I used to be a great Lord Vishnu Devotee but now Ive become a Krishna devotee is I don't see any difference between the two But somehow lord Krishna seems more oppulent and from Krishna Maha Vishnu emerges Lord Krishna has said in Bhagwad Gita that"whoever person worships any Demigod I steady his faith but the fruits are granted alone by me" and then again he says "Abandon all forms of religion and just surrender to me" so it feels that Lord Krishna is very generous he doesn't mind other demigod's worship since he is the supreme being himself so is it okay to worship other demigods such as Shiva,Ganesha,Durga,?
Please reply
best regards
Anubhav -
Haribol Madhudvisa Prabhu!!! All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!!!
Thank you so much for reminding me such a very important point in our life through this issue. I my mind I think I understand this point about surrendering to a bona fide Spiritual Master, but I was not lucky or deserving to find mine, despite my search in early life. I left my search years ago when I found someone who might give a guidance to me, but refused it due to the distance. This issue is a reminding for our real purpose of life.
Though I feel lack of something, I am happy with Krsna in my way.Again thank you very much for all.
Hare Krsna
why we have to eat prasadam as only food?
Happy Hare KRSNA!
Thank you for the recent e-mail on the surrender to KRSNA. I appreciate you showing it's not the duty it's surrendering to our duty to IT & ALL with Love, Peace, Joy, Abundance, Beauty & Prosperous Smiles 2 Share 😉 😉 😉
Hare Krishna. Guruji i am waiting for your second mail
guruji i have read all discoures which is send by u
Pl.keep sending email on Krishna counscinious
The information that I am reading here is powerful and enhacing my Krishna consciousness. I am following Lord Krishna's diet. However, many foods do have eggs in them I should avoid them.
I received my last Newsletter on Dec 8. Please send me more because I feel I am close to Lord Krishna whenever, I read these newsletters. I am reading the Gita and First canto part two of Srimad Bhagavatam. I have read part one . Lord Krishna's pastimes was in Vrndavana. Do they have a web site for travel to visit the area. Thanks. -
To meat the kirtan in loneleness is more personly with fellings with krisna, than kirtan that is more a meating with the kollektiv and gud. To get to the forest and meat him and his freinds can learn us to meat his wisdom. Gandi sade to me, you do whath you learn, that is some time the will and it open you mind.
Hare Krishna Prabhuji,
I just want to mention that I have not been receiving any newsletter from your website after 6 November 2010. The last I received was Importance of sense control in Spiritual life…..I have studied the previous newsletter thoroughly and acquired knowledge in the spiritual method and practice. Please continue sending . BASU DEV KAPHLE , FROM NEPAL -
Hare Krishna,
The world is highly materialistic which is in turn very addictive. what one has the other needs as well, also the human mind is full of negative ideas and emotions which should never be engaged for by doing so these negative ideas get energy and keep troubling you. In this situation one should remain constant but it does not happen why so? -
Hare krishna, Thank you for your mails and keep sending the messages of Lord Krishna.It gives immense pleasure to read your mails. please tell me who is a true Guru and who can become Chela.can a married person become a true chela of a Guru. what Bhagwadgita says about guru chela relationship.Hare krishna
Hare Krishna,
I came across a question to which even I'm also looking for an answer. It is said that we should not eat meat or in another sense we should not kill animals. But somebody referred to an event which we happen to see or read on television and books.
The question is, if killing animals is a sin then why did lord Shiva ordered to bring the head of any living being that comes across to have it implanted on Ganesha which subsequently turned out to be the head of a baby elephant.
kindly let me know the answer to this.
Hare Krishna
Sanjai Singh
Hare Krishna Prabhu ji, all respectful obeisances unto ur lotus feet. I am not receiving ur e-mails since 11th Sept. What might be the reason?
Hare Krishna prabhu ji, all respectful obeisances unto ur lotus feet. It is very true that our mind & senses r very powerful & they drive us to hell by engaging us in sensual activities. Prabhu ji ur e-mails & Srila Prabhupada books r like life saving boat for a sinful soul like me drowning in this vast ocean of material existence. Hoping for continual receival of ur mercy. Hare Krishna
there is some verse in bhagavatam which says- beauty, richness and fame are disqualifications for spiritual advancement. can you please explain it to me madhudvisa das?
thanks for the daily mail. i finished reading prabupadas biography yday, it was third reading in last 5 years. i just cant control tears on reading few moments, the service of disciples for the spiritual master was highly exemplary during iskcons initial days. those disciples were handpicked by krshna for prabupada…………jai shri krshna jai ho srila prabupada jai ho iskcon…………..thx for the daily mail swami….its a good distraction fromm this material world for few moments, trying to surrender completely to krishna, its easy during pains, but difficult to contain during happiness, and all the more difficult to kill ego…krishna is helping me thru u
Dear Madhudvisa dasa,
Even this automatic email, but the words are so alive, its gives happiness to my soul and realize the thing should to do.
I relize loving this world or something in this worlds it give distessful, only divine energy gives real hppiness in life. and loving christna is the ultimate purpose of life.
Long live
Erick -
Dear Madhudvisa dasa ,
You are doing a very good devotional service to new devotees from all over the world. Hope you will continue your service by the mercy of Krishna and His Divine Srila Prabubadha.
Hare Krishna prabhuji,
just wanted to mention that I have not been recieving any newsletter from your website after 20 May 2010. The last I recieved was Importance of sense control in Spiritual life….
is that the latest one or something has been circulated after that??Thankyou
Hare Krishna
Jai Srila Prabhupada! -
Hare Krishna,
Can you please elaborate on the four regulative principles? what all constitutes each one of them? -
Hare Krishna Prabhuji,
Im a recently married young man.. i came in touch with Krishna consciousness recently and slowly started understanding the truth of life.. Im reading Srila Prabhupad's books.. I have a strong desire that me and my wife should go back to Godhead in this life itself and get out of the endless cycle of birth and death.. Please tell me what practically we both can do from now on to make this achievement?-
Hare Krishna,
Srila Prabhupada said Krishna consciousness is simple for the simple. So, the process of sadhana, devotional service in practice is also simple and easy to adopt. The only requirement is sincerity of purpose. May I recommend the following:
1) Establish some sacred space wherever you live. And let that be the Lord's Temple. Just as you would accommodate a guest that comes to your home to whom you show all respect, and to whom you offer the best of whatever you have, in the similar way think of Lord Krishna as not just as your honored guest but as the proprietor of your dwelling place. In that special room or space establish an altar with some nicely framed photos of Sri Sri Radha Krishna, Lord Chaitanya and Srila Prabhupada.
2) Visit the Lord's temple room every day. Present yourself as His servant and chant and sing His Holy Names. Learn some Vaishnava bhajans. Offer Him a lamp and some incense.
3) Regularly prepare and offer sattvik vegetarian foodstuff for His satisfaction, strictly avoiding all kinds of meat, fish, eggs, their by products, onions and garlic.
4) Read Srila Prabhupada's books everyday and think about what you read during the day. Memorize some key verses from Bhagavad-Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam, learn their meaning and explain them to your friends.
5) Invite devotees to your home and inquire from them how to make further progress in devotional service.
6) Purchase some of Srila Prabhupada's CD lectures and bhajan tapes and hear about Lord Krishna from him.
7) Remove your TV if you have one. Watching it will hamper your spiritual progress.
8) Observe Ekadasi vrata on the eleventh day of the waning and waxing moon (ekadasi tithi both sukla paksha and krishna paksha) by voluntarily eating only fruits, simple vegetables and strictly avoiding grains, beans, rice, dahl etc..
As you become accustomed to these practices you will find over the course of time that your life becomes fulfilled, you will become more and more peaceful, and realization of Lord Krishna's unbounded kindness and mercy will flood your heart with love and gratitude. By this simple, easily performed practice of sadhana we become eligible to return to the spiritual world and thus solve all problems born of material contact once and for all-
Thank you very much Prabhuji.. Hare Krishna..
what is there to tell? its fantastic.Naturally I hate snakes,now you combined snakes with senses.I hate snakes so i also hate senses now.Hereafter iam going to control myself for krishna.thankyou mr.madhudvisa dasa.
I have a different question, not sure where to ask on the site.
In the battle of Kuruksetra, Arjuna was guided by Kishna as he was devote disciple and without Lord Krishnas help Arjuna would have retreated to a simple life and society would have suffered bad kingdom.
Arjuna had a big very heavy question and I have simple questions which I cannot find answers to in the Gita. But there is some information like not to lament over things, which was said to Arguna by Krishna as Arjuna found it hard to fight his family as he was pious and compassionate.
But what is the fate of a bird that falls out of the nest and no good samaritans to help, all say that the mother will be looking for the bird and leave it to fend for itself, only to then die alone?
What does Krishna have to say to that? Does anyone know?
your servant
Every living being, birds, beasts, human beings and even demi-gods in heaven have a alloted duration of life. Evntually all created being must die. These are not religious ideas. It's how the world we live in works. So, sooner or later we all die. Lord Krishna corrected His disciple Arjuna, "asochyan anvasochas twam pragavadams ca bhasase" (Bg. 2.11) That Arjuna was lamenting for that which was "not wothy of grief", namely the material body. We are all embodied souls, not the temporary body, and are suffering or enjoying the results of our past acts in the field of matter. God, Lord Krishna, is not playing favorites, we all get what is due to us, we have created our life's struggles or blessings. So if that small bird dies "prematurely" is sad from one point of view. From another it is simply the play of the material nature that we are all emeshed in.
One who is KC is a perfect yogi; he is aware of everyone's happiness and distress by dint of his own personal experience. The cause of the distress of a LIVING entity is forgetfulness of his relationship with God. And the cause of happiness is knowing Krsna to be the supreme enjoyer of all activities of human being, the proprietor of all lands and planets, and the sincerest friend of all living entities. The perfect yogi knows that the living being who is conditioned by the modes of material nature is subjected to the threefold material miseries due to forgetfulness of his relationship with Krsna. And because one in KC is happy, he tries to distribute the knowledge of Krsna everywhere. Since the perfect yogi tries to broadcast the importance of becoming KC, he is the best philanthropist in the world, and he is the dearest servitor of the Lord. Na ca tasman manusyesu kascin me priya-krttamah (Bg. 18.69). In other words, a devotee of the Lord always looks to the welfare of all living entities, and in this way he does not desire perfection in yoga for his own personal benefit, but tries for others also. He does not envy his fellow living entities. Here is a contrast between a pure devotee of the Lord and a yogi interested only in his own personal elevation. The yogi who has withdrawn to secluded place in order to meditate perfectly may not be as perfect as a devotee who is trying his best to turn every man toward Krsna Consciousness.
Hare Krishna
Ys Sanvi -
Hare Krishna!!!
very interesting article, but I have a question that's bothering me since long time…when we start being Krishna consciousness and dedicate our time to Krishna and leave apart our material desires such as partying…why do we start feeling that we are not worthy?? all our friends are partying and for sudden people start talking bad about us, saying that we are outdated, we don't know how to enjoy…and that makes me feel very odd…why??…please rely -
Haribol! What is the position if one is trying to follow the 4 regs… principals and chants 16 rounds but keeps falling down time after time. How can he improve so he does not keep falling down? Please reply?
I want to ask another question again..lol
While preparing food for Lord Krishnaji and Radhama we cannot use garlic and onion right..?? -
Hare krishna prabhuji,
I read your mail on importance of sense control in spiritual life.
You had written that the way to relish that higher, spiritual, taste is through the offensless chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra.So how can one offenslessly chant hare krishna mahamantra?
please do reply-
Hare Krishna prabhu ji,
Thanks for your enlightening letter on "The Importance of Sense Control in Spiritual Life", but I've one question. My father has expired one month back and my mother who is a very religious person has lost all her faith in God. She used to be busy regularly in her pooja for hours and visit temples regularly, but now the situation of house is very disturbed. Even if i chant Bhagwat Gita As Is, to calm her down she doesn't take interest. My father was a doctor and a very gentle and loving person and even we are not able to come out of it.These questions constantly arise where he'll be now? Could we be able to see him ever.
Please help , waiting for your reply
Hare Krishna,
Hare Krishna Prabhu!
I am not a member of Iskon and dont have a guru but is still searching for the right one. But ive been striving 2 worship the sweet Lord. I do only 6 rounds everyday, read the Geeta regularly and i strictly follow the 4 regulative principles. But indeed i still feel like my faith is not complete.Is it essential that i recite 16 rounds?if yes..when and how is it best done?Is a guru essential for my spiritual progression?where would you recommend that i look 4 a 'pure' one as u've said?
Jay shri Krishna!
Nice article, easy to understand , may not be that easy to strictly follow.
Thank you for your e.mail.
Yes, but we should not neglect to try. If something is valuable it is worth striving for. And what is more valuable than solving our main problems of life, namely birth, death, old age and disease, conquering over rebirth, and returning to the kingdom of God?
hare krishna prabhu ji,
i just wanted to know what is the 16 rounds mahamantra that everyone talks about. Can you please enlighten me on that. and what does illicit sex life….exactly mean…??? -
I HAVE A QUESTION THAT FOR A BEGINER IS'NT following rules and regulations THE ONLY WAY TO REFRAIN FROM SENSE ENJOYMENT AND DEVELOPING LOVE FOR SHREE KRISHNA
this subject is very important,thank you you remind me to pay attention to it.sense control is the primary step but if one doesn't realize it correctly she will be fall down in further steps without knowing the reason.specially in relation with people and close people around.distinguish which sense is Maya's and which sense is God's is the second step,and very important too. -
indeed it's so difficult to control the senses..even though we dedicate each day to the lovely lord, still we are enslaved by the senses and keep on falling for materialism. Unless Sri Krisna decides to save us, progress will be very slow i believe. I find console in the maha mantra..feels like Sri Krisna saying 'nevermind if you've failed this time, pick up your sword and rise again, fight in my name.you are just an instrument.'
Jay sri Krisna! -
This is indeed a good article.To get anything in life,material or spiritual, it is imperative that a person has a sense of sacrifice.Nothing can be achieved without sacrifice and controlling one's senses.Senses when guided by the soul can give wonderful results,however uncontrolled senses will only lead us to the world of ignorance symbolized by darkness.I agree with this article when it says one has to taste something higher and sublime in order to get rid of these lower senses which are otherwise very tempting.
I can very well resonate from the gist and importance of the above article being a jigyasu who wants to abolish all past bad karmas of illicite sex and it's allied activities till date. Even after realising that momentary sensory pleasure does not last for ever and it's the bigger objective of life "krishna Consciousness" only that will evolve my soul to the higher level I do fall again and again. I do read Bhagwad Geeta – As It Is and have tremendous faith in it's core teaching "Im not this body Im that soul". I dont eat meat, don't take any liqor or smoke.
Please continue posting such articles and do let me know if there is some process through which I can controll my mind effortlessly.
Jai Sri Krishna! -
My retired husband constantly screams about little things, usually without the slightest importance, and makes it very hard for me to have the sense control you mention in the above article. It's very difficult to not allow this verbal aggression to invade my inner calm. What would be specific suggestions to in the Krishna way to counteract this?
I understand your situation. It is indeed very difficult to control oneself when under constant disturbance of any sort.
What I can think of as a solution for this is.. If we try to control ourselves we will fail.. So the better way will be , Beg and cry out to Krishna and ask for help and then be patient until he responds. Talk to Krishna and tell him your problems just like the way you would talk to your friend (thought Krishna already knows whats in ur mind ).
Patiently wait for him to respond in his own way , and keep begging for mercy.
Sooner or later , Krishna will surely find a way out for you.
May be Krishna is trying to make you feel that you depend on him for everything ..
Hope this helps.Hare Krishna .
hare krishna . in nowadays atmosphere its too difficult to retrain from materialistic way of life.reading prabhupad books watching his dvds,deity worship,chanting 16 rounds mahamantrhas helped a lot from gliding down to hell.what is best devotional service would give us higher taste to forget lower taste n can distribute to others
The best service is to distribute Prabhupada's books– Bhagavad Gita, Srimad-Bhagavatam, Caitanya-Caritmrita, and Nectar of Devotion. The best way to be happy is chanting the Hare Krishna Mantra, accepting prasadam, having discussion on one of the four aforementioned books, and worshiping the Deity. Right now there is a lack of Book discussion and prasadam distribution–both need to be increased everywhere.
hare krishna prabhuji
dandvat pranam
haribol i got an e mail"The Importance of Sense Control in Spiritual Life".
it was really very wonderful. haribol i liked it very much and i am waiting eagerly for ur next mail on the process of sense control.
please keep sending such krshna counsciousness e mail to me
ur humble servant
chandan singh-
how to acquire or develop vairagya?
eagerly waiting for the reply


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