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By Barbara Starr
Two Iranian Su-25 fighter jets fired on an unarmed U.S. Air Force Predator drone in the Persian Gulf on November 1, the Pentagon disclosed on Thursday.
The incident, reported first by CNN, raised fresh concerns within the Obama administration about Iranian military aggression in crucial Gulf oil shipping lanes.
The drone was on routine maritime surveillance in international airspace east of Kuwait, 16 miles off the coast of Iran, U.S. officials said. The Predator was not hit.
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"Our aircraft was never in Iranian airspace. It was always flying in international air space. The recognized limit is 12 nautical miles off the coast and we never entered the 12 nautical mile limit," Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said in responding to questions from reporters after CNN reported the incident.
Little said the United States believed this was the first time an unmanned aircraft was shot at by the Iranians in international waters over the Gulf. In December of 2011, a U.S. surveillance drone crashed in eastern Iran. Iranians claimed to have shot it down, and created a toy model of the drone to celebrate its capture.
Little stopped short of calling the incident an act of war although the Pentagon was concerned.
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Two U.S. officials explained the jets were part of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps force, which has been more confrontational than regular Iranian military forces.
At least two bursts of gunfire came from the Su-25s' cannons. The drone started to move away but the Iranian aircraft chased it, doing aerial loops around it before breaking away and returning to Iran.
The Obama administration did not disclose the incident before the presidential election, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN on Thursday. They declined to be identified because of sensitive intelligence matters surrounding the matter.
The drone's still and video cameras captured the incident showing two Su-25s approaching the Predator and firing onboard guns.
The Iranian pilots continued to fire shots that went beneath the Predator but were never successful in hitting it, according to the officials.
U.S. military intelligence analysts are still not sure if the Iranian pilots simply were unable to hit the drone due to lack of combat skill, or whether they deliberately were missing and had no intention of bringing it down.
But as one of the officials said, "it doesn't matter, they fired on us."
Little said the United States has to assume Iran was trying to bring down the Predator.
The United States protested the incident but had not heard back from Iran.
Iran has, at other times, been confrontational in the region. In January, the U.S. military and coast guard had close encounters with Iranian Navy vessels which approached at high speeds and exhibited provocative behavior.
Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to the United States, declined to say whether his country knew about the incident before Pentagon officials
Presedent Obama is the man,,, Whites lost. LOL suckas
Obama's mother is White....so sorry about your low IQ
President Obama is a white man. You may want to do a bit of reading sometime.
Please learn to spell before posting a message. Thank-you.
"The officials declined to be identified because of sensitive intelligence matters surrounding the matter." Then maybe you should be Patriotic Americans and not publish things about "sensitive intelligence matters". Or you could be journailists. Oh wait, never mind. You'll be neither.
TIme to see why Romney lost the election. Put your seat belts on.
The Media is going to defend Obama again and side with Obama and brain wash American people into believing that Iranians sent over Christmas presents instead of attacking the Drones. Or perhaps 'Iranians attacked the Drones because George Bush was piloting the Drone' 'The Iranians were just joking around with us'
Obama, the great warrior (snicker, snicker, snicker) will do nothing except ask the Iranians and Muslims to be please be peaceful.
Stop being angry that your candidate lost. Mittens would have done...nothing.
He hasn't done anything any other time. Time will prove me correct.
Israel will eliminate Iran while Obama leads from behind
What if an un armed Iranian drone was buzzing around Pittsburgh? Or Atlanta? Or Langley? How long would it last? How would the people of Iran know whether it was unarmed or not? How could jet planes "not catch up" to a propeller driven drone? There's something fishy about this story.
"The Obama administration did not disclose the incident, which occurred just days before the presidential election on November 1, but three senior officials confirmed the details to CNN". I'm just wondering if CNN sat on the story also till after the elections (Just wondering).
Of course they did.
The media is in the barrel with zero
Don't worry, Obama will apologize to Iran.
He will probably send them money to cover the cost of jet fuel that they used!
Is Obama planning another apology tour or is the first one still running.
First person who thinks the US would not shoot an Iranian drone (in international air space) that was flying off our coast, raise your hand.
Exactly, we'd have shot it down.
That's a rediculous comment. We're talking about international waters. During the cold war, there were Russian nuclear subs 2 miles off the coast of Florida. Anyone who took a Carnival cruise at that time remembers. You could see them plain as day. We never shot at them.
If the drone was in international airspace then the Iranian jets would be in international airspace. This is fishy.
Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods. The US has manufactured threats before. Don't expect the government to NOT do it again.
TIme to see why Romney lost the election. Put your seat belts on.
The Media is going to defend Obama again and side with Obama and brain wash American people into believing that Iranians sent over Christmas presents instead of attacking the Drones.
The contiguous zone – "The contiguous zone is a band of water extending from the outer edge of the territorial sea to up to 24 nautical miles (44 km; 28 mi) from the baseline, within which a state can exert limited control for the purpose of preventing or punishing "infringement of its customs, fiscal, immigration or sanitary laws and regulations within its territory or territorial sea". This will typically be 12 nautical miles (22 km; 14 mi) wide, but could be more (if a state has chosen to claim a territorial sea of less than 12 nautical miles), or less, if it would otherwise overlap another state's contiguous zone. However, unlike the territorial sea there is no standard rule for resolving such conflicts, and the states in question must negotiate their own compromise. The United States invoked a contiguous zone out to 24 nmi on 24 September 1999."
In my opinion, espionage would certainly come under 'infringement of customs'. No nation would, or even should, permit such blatant surveillance.
I love how no one else can have nuclear anything but last time i checked u s a was the only nation to ever use one out of hatred and we did it twice. On women and children not even military targets. Im ashamed to be an american.
You have a Iranian ip address though.
Not that anyone here will pay attention to it.
Your all retards you cant just move anywhere everywhere has immigration laws you idiots and unlike the good ole usa they enforce them. I wish there was a way to opt out and never see another piece of human trash ever again but the only way is death and im waaaaay to cool for that so all you leeches just kill yourselves i would greatly appreciate it and if you all want to by me a ticket ill take one to norway just let me wade through the sea of turd colored people to get to the airport.
Then get out.
Really? Iran signed the treaty and could back out of it but don't they instead continue to violate it's rule. Your're about a stupid F.
We all have a choice where we live, make yours. A little study of WW11 history will show you many lives were saved by the bombing, warnings were made and ignored
If you hate it that bad move out.
Leave then! Oh wait I bet you are sucking us dry on social programs other countries you like wouldn't provide. If you are truly ashamed leave- I swear right now, I'll pay for your one way ticket.
Good then move to Iran and denounce citizenship. I would doubt you did that, so I will just state the obvious You are a Loser!!!
What is hilarious is they MISSED.. TWO of them! HA HA HA what a bunch of losers, couldnt give them any easier of a target
Two jets couldn't hit a drone? So much for the mighty Iranian military. Even Israel can shoot down a drone.
Get used to it. The mid-east knows Obama won't do anything.
Wondering how long until Israel stops Iran.
Wow, another slave to the media. We wouldn't care less about israel or iran if it wasn't for all the jewish money flowing into our political coffers.
If the Iranians had shot at an Israeli drone there would be all out war right now... It's only a matter of time before we start shooting back...
Obama won't respond. He wants to be their friends so they will become peaceful and friendly towards us.
After finally getting out of Iraq and nearing the end of the Afghanistan fiasco, it's hard to believe there are Americans that still lust for another war in Iran. Make sure you enlist so you can get a good view.
Sorry, the messiah is too busy patting himself on the back after his recrowning!
Your party picked a loser. Get over it.
Another act of war against this once great country that will be ignored by the Organizer!
If Isreali military killing an unarmed American civilian in International waters wasn't an act of war, how is Iran firing warning shots at an American drone 4 miles from thier shore an act of war?
My friend, Israeli never attacked any US citizen in International waters. Iranians on the other hand, did attack the Drones.
I call BS, Chris. There was a kid on board the Mavi Marmara, in international waters, that was executed by the IDF. He was an American citizen.
Why would this event or the so-called supression of it being in the news change the way you would have voted? c'mon man. There are far more important issues at home and hundreds of encounters like this you will never read about. learn history before accusing the President of having committed treason..or learn what treason is first. p.s moving to colorado
Maybe because we Americans like free press. Why should anyone be happy that the government suppressed information until after an election? That doesn't bother you? If George Bush did it, would it bother you? Please be honest.
im betting our president will apologize to Iran for our drone flying around up there, causing their pilots to waste ammunition .
When we take people out with drones it's "just short of war", (Quote from CNN's Erin Burnett), but if the latest boogieman shoots at our robot, oh, hell no, beat the war drums!!! Wake up people.!
They are sending a message to Obama....loud and clear. Lets see how much guts does Obama have?
Like when China forced one of out planes down and that aircraft had a crew. GW did...... nothing.
You sure are a whining snotty little biotch aren't you there zomer. Your day is coming sooner than you think.
Don't worry – i am sure our president will apologize to the Iranians for us.. .:-(
hahaha! Steve – your comment about the president apologizing made me smile for the first time this week 🙂
So much for Iran "playing nice".
and our reaction, go hide under thr covers
More war is just what we need while the economy is in a death spiral. The neocons are instigating this and trying to suck Iran into war by flying drones over and near their border so they will retaliate. Then they can dupe the amerikan people once again. The sad thing is that they will probably get away with it – again. If Amerikans would just have the sense to learn what is going on and study history a bit, they would never allow this. The fascist globalists are trying to entrap Iran and here we go again.
Neocon's like Obama and the people he's surrounded himself with, right? Oh wait, you can't blame everything on people you don't like, can you?
Stop trolling James. Only a troll will misspell American with a k.
or an Obama fan, I take it you never saw the tv series.
james....you thought process is"so lacking" it doesn't even warrant a response!!
A lot of megaphonies here?
You have to wonder, if the Iranians shot down a US figher jet in international air space, and killed the pilot, on Nov. 1st, and only the military knew about it, would Obama have allowed that information to go public? Based on his record, I would guess no, he would have held that information until after the election or maybe indefinitely.
Dude, get a life. We had an intel plane brought down China, on Bush watch, what do you have to say about that?????
hilarious how misguided these people are
hilarious how people are still obsessed with W.
with Candy's help.
Obama's people kept it hidden – because Obama doesn't have the guts to stand up to Iran. And the ayatollahs know it.
Hidden like the WMD in Iraq?
Obama is still there looking for them. By the way, recently Syrian ambassador said he will use WMD's against the rebels. I remember a former Iraqi General saying that Saddam shipped the WMD's to Syria during the Iraq Liberation.
Libtards assume if you don't like Pres Islama then you love W. Haha, too brainwashed to realize they are the same guy. W=spent $ like Chuckie Sheen on a 20 yr bender and lied about Iraq/WMD's
Pres Islama=spent $ like Chuckie AND Andy Dick on a 20 yr bender, lied about Benghazi
This gets more coverage than Israels murder of an American teenager in International Waters?
Israel has also attcked at least one US warship in the past.
The distant past. BTW, your "Mittens...rock" remark misses by a mile, and shows how intellectually bereft you are.
It happened in June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. Israel had to fight Egypt, Syria, Jordan ,Arab Expeditionary Forces, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Kuwait, Tunisia and Sudan.
Israeli military mistook a US ship as an Egyptian ship. Most of the Israeli soldiers came from Europe and around the world and they accidentally fired on the US ship. Investigations on both sides have shown that it was a mistake.
In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 (US$22.2 million in 2012) as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the final U.S. bill of $17,132,709 for material damage to the Liberty itself plus 13 years' interest.
The Iranians attacked the Drones on purpose. They know that Obama won't respond and that Obama is weak on foreign policy.
The USS Liberty. And that wasn't an act of war? We certainly are selective on who we want to commit acts of war against us. I suppose our drones killing children in other countries aren't considered acts of war either, at least not by neo-con zionist warmongers and thier brainwashed stooges.
Liberalism is truly a mental disorder forced on students in most American schools!
????????? The landing of a UFO in Times Square didn't get much coverage either!
UFO nah that was mittens getting back under his rock.
The reason it does Mohammed is because you are spreading lies. You people are so vile you tell lies about a democracy in the middle east hoping people will believe you.
This reminds me of IR Flight 655 when the Pentagon said the USS Vincennes was in international waters, but it wasn't. It was in Iranian waters. The Pentagon then said the commericial airline transponder was turned off, but it wasn't. Then it said the plane was descending when the black box proved it was climbing steeply. Then it said the airplane was outside the commercial corridor when the black box proved it wasn't. Then the US killed 290 Iranians, many of them women and children as it blasted a commerical airliner out of the sky. Then, they gave the commander of the ship a medal and a promotion for slaughtering innocent civilians. This is my own government and I hope if it wages war on Iran it destroyes itself. I am ashamed at my government and there will only be justice when people like Bush and Obama stand trial for war crimes.
An American with both a memory and a conscience. Rare breed.
Just like the wasted time, money and lives in iraq. Many of thses red state hicks live in a state of denial
Don't we still have troops there? Also troops in Afghanistan? Pretty sure Obummer said we'd be out of there by now.
f your mutha
The Vincennes didn't just fire on the airliner out of the blue. Earlier that day, the V was south of where they had contact with the airliner. Iranian gunboats were harrassing (provoking or testing them – use what you will) for hours. Vincennes had some engineering issues, one CIWS mount down and possibly a radar issue. Vincennes traveled north out of the gunboat's operating area. So the Vincennes was still at a state of readiness although their systems were degraded. The airliner wasn't broadcasting a IFF signal. Their CO tried to make contact with the airliner a few times with no response. He acted with the information available; which was very very little.
During the Vietnam war there was a popular bumper sticker "America love it or leave it. If you are ashamed of your country get out.
No country is perfect but I will be a loyal American until the day I die and I thank God for the freedoms that living in this nation affords me.
You want to be ruled move to Cuba or China.
This is what America wanted when they voted for Obama!!! do you think iran would ever have the guts to do this with a real leader?? and its funny how this wasn't released until 3 days later.. 1st Obama covers up a terrorist attack in libya which killed one who represents us and all our states! the he covers up about this. im suuure 100% sure Obama called iran to apologize. PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES THIS IS WAR! THINK ABOUT IT.. WHEN ANOTHER NATION STRIKES AMMUNITION AT ANOTHER NATION THAT IS CALLED WAR. WHERE IS OBAMA???
Iraq , the war for nothing, that went nowhere...
Why do you keep "talking" as if we aren't there anymore? You F ing retard, it isn't over, were still there.
Dude, get a life. We had an intel plane brought down China, on Bush watch, what do you have to say about that???
Obama is where he needs to be, The United States Of America. You have no right being on our Land. You whites in America are so stupid and Ignorant. The Only Thing that "White people has done is cause havoc and destruction through out the world. funny thing is, you whites have used propaganda and false accusation to lie to the american people. There is no need to take this country back, because it hasn't gone anywhere ... except forward ... toward a more perfect union where the "All-American look" is getting a little bit harder to define. If you love your country so much, why are you in Iran? Money, Power, Control, but no Respect!!!!!
IRani sounds like most of the liberals on here. That's weird.
Hey Jay does it take "guts" to start a war because our spy plane got shot at? Or….maybe it would be stupidity.
This must be the new holographic drone that projects a virtual image of itself away from the actual drone. The Iranians must have been firing at that. Guess its working.
The Drone was the act of war lady!
America is no longer the good guy. Hasn't everyone figured that out yet?
In international waters it was not an act of war for the US but not the Iranians. And if Iranian pilots cannot hit a slow moving drone, the Israelis have nothing to worry about.
I wonder how the US military would respond if Iran was flying drones in international waters off the north eastern coast of the USA?
The same,up to a point...I think we might splash the damn thing ...
The drone was in international airspace bonehead.
Something tells me the Communist News Network (CNN) already knew about this, but intentionally covered it up until AFTER the election.
Funny your here trolling the communist news network. get out of the closet, we know you like it.
OHHHHH-k...couldn't bring down an unmanned oversized RC toy plane? Geez, what'll they do if somebody shoots back?
Iran want's WAR look how close they put their country to U.S. military Bases !!!
I know!
And who the heck put all of our oil under their sand?
Now THAT'S FUNNY...... hahahahahahahahah.... :-))
Send them all to meet allah baba and we won't have to worry about them anymore. Its coming. Once we get a man in the office of the presidency and not a eunich
Your husband is running for president! Great news!
next nobama will apologize
'Fresh concerns'??? I'm concernded the President didn't tell us! Always the liar!
Here is the link to a much more informative article not paid for and edited by the US Govt (see: Amber Lyon).
Isn't it sad that Americans believe RT and aljazeera have honest journalists. This should waken up the MSM.
Whens the last time any of our media questioned the propaganda handed to them by the government?
Can anyone compare that with the following historical fact?
Tehran, July 3 – On the morning of 3rd of July 1988, an Iran Air airbus passenger plane, flight number 655, took off from the port city of Bandar Abbas for a routine thrice a week flight to Dubai across the Persian Gulf with 290 passengers on board inclu ding 160 men, 73 women and 57 children.
It was cruising unsuspecting of the dangers that lurked below. While it was still in Iranian airspace, unknown to it, an American warship had stealthily entered Iranian coastal waters. At 10.22 AM, exactly five minutes after flight's departure from Band ar Abbas, the Commander of USS Vincennes, Captain Will Rogers ordered the firing of two missiles at the Iranian passenger.
The plane immediately exploded in mid air, splintered and crashed into the waters of the Persian Gulf. There were no survivors. All 290 passengers went to a watery grave. Among the victims of the American crime against humanity, 37 passengers were non-I ranians and were nationals of Italy, Yugoslavia, Pakistan, India and some Persian Gulf Arab states.
I can not compare to it. A life is a life. That was 1988 and this is this week.
If you want "historical fact", then, describe what the Vincennes went through prior to launching two missles. The real challenge will be to describe that with out the emotionally biased language.
According to Captain Rogers, they were being attacked by eight Iranian gun boats. Vincennes was defending themselves from this attack when the plane was shot at with two standard missiles. Crucially, the Vincennes misidentified the Iranian Airbus as an attacking F-14 Tomcat fighter aircraft. A radio warning had been sent to the aircraft on the international air distress frequency.
When they looked at it .. it felt like its coming right at them. they felt scared.. didnt know what to do..started pushing butttons lots of buttons.
Y'all loved 9/11 that much that you want them to attack again? Ok, then go ahead and start another war, but you may wish to postpone that new World Trade Center, cause it's coming down again.
Iran is a key player that we need to negotiate and work with. They are a very westernized nation, surrounded by Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and all sorts of unstable governments.
Maybe we should stop sending our drones into their country each day. They don't come into our country.
Good logic. Negotiate with a nation that has proven to be provocative and aggressive in the region, out of fear of being victim to another terrorist attack on domestic soil.
RULE #1, we don't negotiate with terrorists.
The hell we don't. I thought Israel was our ally.
I will make you a deal you take all the Muslimes out of the US, and we won't send any drones over your country. But we can't control what other countries do.
International airspace is where they fired on the drone, try to keep up.
Nice how CNN is so quick to post this only because team Obama released it AFTER the election
FIRST ON CNN: Iranian jets fire on U.S. drone
uh this was on fox about 2 hours ago
OOH!!! The holy officials in pentagon says this, We must trust them!! we must not question them!! we must wage war to iran. STFU idiots! If any drones fly 16 miles to america, we would have shot it down.
Glad I wasn't raised weak and pathetic like you.
It's so easy to tell your not an American it's humorous. So please don't try to deceive people, thanks.
You have lost the point Chris.. it is not the fact we would of shot their drone down.. it is the fact it was not even discussed till AFTER the election.. an increasingly Angry Iran.. would not have fit Obama's campaign strategy. So why not manipulate the American public to believe otherwise.. it worked with Bengazi why not here? Scarey.
We can all rest assured that Obama called Achmadinejad to fervently apologize for the U.S. being in International airspace.
I call him Acho-mind-ajar...
Someone attacks an American or American property. Obama covers up. This is getting to be old hat. What is scary is this coverup was so obviously because of the election and yet the mainstream media appears set to give it a pass. If you ask me covering up terrorist attacks and attacks against America is far worse than Watergate. In its worst light you could classify it as treasonous and at a minimum a denial of important information to voters. Glad you mentioned it CNN but my gut tells me that is all you will do. It will be swept from the front page in a short time and likely never discussed again. Journalism is in such a sad state.
it wasn't covered up. you just don't understand how these situations work.
HOW? HOW can you call the SAVIOR OF OUR COUNTRY; our Blessed Leader obama a traitor?
Shame, shame, shame. Everbody knows yer name...
Hmmm lets see.... GW buch let 4400 americans die in iraq for nothing this is what you complain about....
Last week?? Why were we not told???? Treasonous.
you don't have a need to know.
Of COURSE not! We just have a need to blindly vote for obama. Just because he is a weak-kneed, sniveling, bowing, TRAITOR must not be allowed to be an impediment to our devotions...
Comments not pre-screened before they are posted? Where is the one I try to post? Perhaps it would be a good idea to re-write the clause below.
Not to worry Odumbo will apologize for the intrusion.
...and send them several hundred billion us dollars too.
An' mebe th' haid of a Republican INFIDEL!
Well at least we got some intelligence out of this encounter. Iranian pilots suck, but I guess we already knew that.
They fired twice at a slow moving target and missed? I don't think Israel has that much to worry about when they attack them.
It's not their pilots or air force, in general, that Israel is worried about. It's their long-range missile capabilities. Israel's AF (IAF) is by far the greatest air power in the region (ask Syria and Egypt), but even the Iron Shield missile defense system would have some trouble if missiles and mortars were falling from Gaza, Iran, and Southern Lebanon at the same time. They would have to completely wipe out Iran's return fire capabilities before possibly trying to knock out the nuclear facilities. That way, the could try to handle Gaza and Lebanon by themselves while Iran took its time regrouping.
They may have intended to miss and were just mavericks having fun. But you're right if they actually wanted to hit it and missed they SUCK as pilots. The thing to remember though is that they don't have the economy to support the amount of training that the US does. So it's not the pilot's fault.
Actually, it is hard for a 500mph fighter to hit a very slow moving airplane with aimed cannon fire because the performance envelopes of the planes are so much different. In WWII, piper cub observation spotter & liason planes usually escaped attack by 300+mph fighers by changing direction and flying low and slow.
Well it looks to me as the drone was 4 miles from the sea border those were warning shots not to enter the Iranian air space. I wonder if an Iranian war drone/plane would fly 4 miles outside the border of United States heading towards New York if U.S. would be as nice and shoot just warning shots.
Thank you, O. Joe! What would happen to Iranian aircraft ANYWHERE outside of their own airspace? Let alone this close to the US? Not a big Iran fan, but why are they not 'allowed' to do what the US does 24/7 and MUCH worse?
No probelm O. Jane.
They key question of course is why was the drone there that close in first place. Was it heading over the border? And what is maybe most amazing to me, is that CNN's story doesn't bring these questions up. Really sad. But human I guess. I bet they fear they won't get invited to the next White House Correspondents Dinner if they actually start doing their job.
They fired at the drone because it was getting footage to make a new muhamed video. After all, we have to get a new excuse ready for the next obama f up in the middle east.
Not to worry, Odumbo will apologize to Iran for the intrusion!
Wow, ,look. Iran does just what Israel and Right wingers in the U.S. want Iran to do.. provokes the U.S. You ever wonder sometimes if we might be seeing a long running continuation of Iran Contra? That sham where Iran,Israel and Republicans hoodwinked America into various misadventures Americans didn't really want? Can't possibly be can it?
That's pretty stupid Noderunner. Do you blame the twin towers for being in the way of the planes too?
My how timely...first cover-up number one and now cover-up number two–both happened shortly before the election.
The administration and the media will always cover up for the incompetence of Obama.
Cover up? Really? You ignorant republicans still milking that BS? This was hardly a cover up. You sure can stretch the facts in your tiny ignorant mind.
Since you are a liberal, how do you swallow Obama killing SUPPOSED terrorists? I have never had a liberal explain that to me.
YES, really! What else would you call it? It's pretty obvious, unless of course, you like being lied to.
If George Bush were in office... this would receive negative press ...
go to Fox News. I am sure you can find something negative REAL quick. Probably even about this very story!
Some people are so scared. Scared of Obama. Scared of Iran. Scared of gay people. Scared of everything. IT'S GONNA BE OK. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE SO SCARED ALL THE TIME.
Hey...I ain't scared...I told them a about a week ago to get off my lawn..dang blasted Iranian varmints!
why would the Obama admin choose to hide this until after the election? HMMMM??
The appeaser in chief didnt want to seem weak in the eyes of the American people in foreign policy matters right before election day..
Too late...everyone (including our enemies) already know he's weak. Holding until after the election avoided the American people remembering...
Kennedy's grandson seemed to be more important than this "First on CNN".
fyi the su-25 is a ground support aircraft similar to our A-10 warthog. It is not a fighter jet. The su-27 is a fighter jet
Regardless of the purpose of the aircraft, it still carried ammunition, and still fired on an American aircraft in international airspace. Semantics is all cool, I guess, when defending the fact hider in chief. How convenient to hide this until after the election.
Why shouldn't the Iranan;s fire at our drones? They'll only be sent over their border soon ayway.
This whole issue against Irn shows how much control the wicked Israeli's/Rothschild's central banking racket have over US foreign policy; the Iranian's haven't started a war since 1798, they are peaceful, we (the US) are desperate due to Iran no longer selling oil in our soon to be worthless dollars.
Right, they pay and train others to.
Yeah the Iranians are a peaceful lot, just ask the millions of people in mass graves there, how peaceful . Of course Obama didn't want us to know. But I already know he is a weak and pitiful excuse for a President.
And how many of those died because we were giving arms to Iraq to kill them? Arms that we later killed Sadam for because he supposedly still had them.
Yeah, you're name is "Dave." Right. Crawl back in your hole, Yassir.
How old are you Dave? Got any history in that brain of yours? Iran and Iraq have hated each other for years. Ever hear of the Iran/Iraq War? Ever hear of our embassy in Iran taken over in the 70's during Carter's administration where they held our Americans for years? Ever listen to their ambassador and how he wants to kill Israli's and Americans? Yes, a VERY peaceful country.
Only if Iran has no mullahs ruling.
Funny how this whole post is all of us arguing amongst ourselves. Way to be classy, all of you. Should be ashamed. Look at the big picture and let's come together rather than this being a big Jerry Springer show where we need an excuse to argue....
Funny how you post the same thing thrice. Spamming is shameful act.
We're not arguing amongst ourselves. People are on here that are part of the war machine or are acting like they are Americans to try to convince others into going to war for their profit. Others are on here playing down their propaganda and pointing out their lies. CNN has a number of paid posters from lobbyists to foreign agencies like Israel duing all they can in the psyops war on American minds.
two thumbs up
Funny how this whole post is all of us arguing amongst ourselves. Way to be classy, all of you. Should be ashamed. Look at the big picture and let's come together rather than this being a big Jerry Springer show where we need an excuse to argue.
Funny how you post the same thing twice. Spamming is shameful act.
Rest my case.
It was due to submitting, then it said I had to log in.
ok Ill tell them,,,,,,OK EVERYONE, DROP THE LAPTOPS AND GO HOME, NOTHUGE SAID SO. there.
Whose NOTHUGE?
Funny how this whole post is all of us arguing amongst ourselves. Way to be classy, all of you. Should be ashamed. Look at the big picture and let's come together rather than this being a big Jerry Springer show where we need an excuse to argue.
Ho Hum.....not important now...Obama's on the Road to Burma....he's such a statesman
Only fools and morons of the west would wish for a full blown out war, a war that has already left a devastated blow to your economies. Grow up boiz, every one knows that usa is the biggest terorist of all time.
Yes ... war war kill kill.
America should attack Iran. And Iraq. And Afghanistan. Venezuela. North Korea. Russia. Bomb China. Lebanon. Don't forget to attack Syria, Pakistan and Libya.
Let's start tomorrow. Simulanteous bombings everywhere at once. That should do the trick.
I can't wait until we kick tyour butt off this Earth!
Yes I think BHO should apologize and bend over.......
A Nigerian diss'ing the the U.S. economy? Wow ... lol
if usa and britain wants war why just dosent china or russia drop a nuke on them both and give them a war nuke australia and ireland to nuke them all.
How interestign that this incident, which happened 5 days BEFORE the election, is only coming out now, after Obama's victory has been secured.
Surprised? You shouldn't be. This is how it works now in the United Socialist Republiks of Amerika
Thats the way it has always worked. The government hides many things from us. Stop acting like it all started with Obama.
Exactly why I will NEVER watch CNN again in my lifetime. They were apart of this coverup but now that the election is over they want to start talking to try and get viewers. What a shame that news is based on polital agenda. Shame on CNN and the reporters who participated.
Disclosed after the election so voters wouldn't have another reminder of how spineless most of our enemies think Obama is. Spend it all on butter Obama, and we won't have the guns we need for defense. Read your Roman history about bankrupting the nation & its ability to defend itself by pandering to the lowest, most ignorant class of voters with expensive giveaways. But this is all part of the Obama plan: pretend like only wealthy voters will pay the tab, run up a huge bill for programs we can't afford without becoming Greece, avoid dealing with the problem another 4 years, scate out of office a popular guy, and let somebody else (probably Paul Ryan) inform the middle class they in fact have to pay the bill. Obama is going to build his socialist State even if it does kill the goose that lays the golden eggs: American business. But there is an easy fix for the so called Democratic Block: Republicans need to simply run more black, hispanic and female candidates. Qualifications don't matter much to a bunch of these voters.
Well said, I appreciate the honesty.....
This type of common sense will prolly get banned here.
"by pandering to the lowest, most ignorant class of voters with expensive giveaways"
Actually if you look at the electoral map and the demographics, most of those people voted for Romney. Nice try though.
The "Red States" believe in themselves as Americans. They know how and want to take care of themselves and each other. Its called pride and hospitality, and the "Blue States" could use some. Providing marijuana and handouts isn't hospitable. Its enabling.
Agreed! Obama has no backbone.
The United States military is larger than the next 25 militaries COMBINED. This is a fact. So how again do we have no money left for military? You sir are so misinformed.
Correction: We SPEND more on our military the the next 25 countries COMBINED. Same difference really.
Wow, if I understand you correctly, women, black and hispanics are dumb – so what is left – the white man? I usually ignore bigotry like this, i don't even know why I bothered to respond.
we won't have the guns we need for defense
Holy F, for real? We can annihilate the entire world probably 30 times over. Yet, we still need to grow our military? We could absolutely decimate defense spending, and still have the most powerful military in the entire world, and by a very large margin.
Panem et circenses, Smart & Southern, panem et circenses. Just give 'em a good show to divert their attention and promise them free goodies and the Emperor can do whatever he wants.
what a surprise... it wasn't disclosed before the election. typical chicago thuggery.
"WAAAHH WAAHH WAAHH" There I fixed it for you.
Persian Moron, it's the Persian Gulf which does not mean that you own it, Moron. I emailed Pres. Obama on his hotmail account and told him to scramble a jet (we only need one) to smoke the two that went after a drone, Really?
The only thing Obama will smoke is a joint!
"Two U.S. officials"
"three senior officials"
"The officials declined to be identified"
So, the three (or was it two?) unidentified "because of sensitive intelligence matters surrounding the matter" people told you all these details, including the location of the drone?
This sounds legit to me.
How dare you question unnamed sources!
You people are so stupid it makes my head hurt.
WHO WHAT WHEN WHERE WHAAAT? come on give me something............
I try not to feed the beast too much info.
For all fellow Americans who really buy into all the right wing conspiracy theories, you should be pent up in an insane asylum. In fact if we turned back the clock 50 years you probably would be committed. I truly hope you guys are ashamed of yourselves after we get through the next four years unscathed militarily with a rebounding economy, and one of the greatest presidents the world has ever known. In time all you dumbos will see what progress can be made if your willing to sacrifice a Lil to get there. Stop turning on every republican figure that shows the willingness to work across the table. We as a country want to accomplish all we can, but we can't do it if we don't work together. Please call your conservative radio stations and tell them to stop bashing boener for showing a willingness to compromise. For your parties sake I hope you guys are listening, as seen in this election, you guys need to learn that America is changing whether you like it or not.
You are a hypocrite
OMG – I'm not even a Republican but you sound like a koolaid drinking fool if you buy into your own garbage! Good luck child because you are going to need it and more to survive the next 4 years of obamanation. Stock market already down almost 400 points – welcome to obama's world!
like I said, if you don't believe in America please leave. We need people who are optimistic, not Debbie downers like you. America will recover, but not because of unfaithful people like you babe.
You mean welcome to the world of the scared white man.
Give me one good example of a succesful black or bispanic nation please come on just one. There isnt any retard and you might say south africa but was ran by whites and now is in utter decline for last fifty years. Any if any of you need a perfect example of minorities and dems screwing things up look at california. Everyones on welfare house prices are retarded everything is vandalized and spraypainted roads are unpaved and everyone is too stoned to care. Also 5 billion in debt and no jobs except for social services whos hours have been cut. Flush it already. O ya i love how 30 million idiots had the same idea "ima quit my job and grow an sell pot" except you crashed the market and it went from 5000 a pound to 500. Hillarious.
Ashamed hell we want things to be good- just don't believe the guy can do it. If he does I'll be the first to admit I didn't see it in him. It's all on you all now. Show us the money- show us the freedom-show us the jobs-show us the peace!
Gero4216- In other words, you're arguing that the ends justify the means. It's OK to suppress information prior to the election because of lofty goals. Sorry. That doesn't cut it.
Also check out the 9/12 interview that 60 Minutes released on Monday. Previously it had been edited to hide some info on Benghazi.
just hopeful babe.
This is the funniest thing I've read all day. Are you really that delusional?
Just drink the kool-aid, it'll make all your problems go away.
it tastes great so good
Go to Greece already get a first hand look at where you're beloved nut job is taking this country...or Spain...Portugal...Italy and Germany right behind absorbing all the other countries debt. ...and really...did you forget about the 47% that isn't going want to help to make this a better place...you have to work with your hands and minds and EARN MONEY to be taxed....not sit around waiting for a handout. The election was won by Obama taking advantage of an uneducated lower class that has grown by 30% over the last 4 years. All by being the biggest ever partisan teet that has ever graced 1600...
You take it in the butt from Uncle Sam and you ask for more.
sure tex, U want to know the funniest thing of all, I voted for mitts and was just trying to get all my fellow repubs to compromise for the better of our nation. Conservatism is dying and if we want to preserve it we must change. Keep bashing me if you like but you just make yourself look that much more infantile for doing it. Come together and we can accomplish all.
America is not changing, America is sinking because of people like you. We do not compromise, that's not the backbone of our country. we have a role to play in the world and until you and those who think like you start getting the message we'll continue sinking. The enemy is taking advantage of the lack of leadership and backbone currently displayed by our leaders, and that is going to cost us. It's easy to get away with no reporting the Iranian shooting at one of our assets, the Benghazi fiasco, the manipulation of unemployment numbers, etc when you have the backing of a corrupted media. I could only negotiate with democrats "con cojones" and those I can't find one. I hope I don't get snitched out for these comments since I'm on the CNN site. What a disgrace!!!
Good thing I live in Texas and not Amerika.
So we are dumbos! We are changing to a country going down the tubes with a leader that is cluelss about spending our tax money! He is no Reagan or JFK! 58 million Americans voted against this bozo! America is changing and that is for sure! Demorats are taking this ship down the drain! Common sense is what this country needs but people like you and your liberal agenda's are destroying what took 200 years to build. OBAMA what a joke!
obama will not be considered one of the greatest presidents of all time. You are mistaking greatness for simple idea that people have eyes and therefore can see that a black man and white man do not look the same. With that said, Obama will be remmbered.....i commend you on your ability to acknowledge the obvious, but not because he was one of the greatest, yet for the siple fact that he was the First Black President of America and nothing else....Yet people have a tendency to give undue overzealous worship to such "First Blacks.....". Oh and by the way all the great presidents were wartime presidents....Washinton (not great president but did win the war for us) Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S Grant (not great but won the war for union), Andrew Jackson (Stong backbone and leadership served war 1812),FDR (Best president took us out of a depression with help of war and led us to being the super power we are), AND OBAMA (he was black)...your welcome for this lesson
point taken I concur about the wartime presidents. I just truly believe Obama is trying to bring us together for the sake of America's legacy. If you were wondering, I'm a Caucasian and being black had nothing to do with my choice for president. Like said, I think you are right about the greatest presidents, they're my all time faves being a history major.
Really "the greatest president" wow you must live in a cave. Washington,Jefferson,Lincoln, and Regan were amazing presidents who Loved America. This clown hates America and wants to see it fail, so keep thinking your narrow minded way and let's see that you say in 4 years when you have nothing left unless you're one living off all us hardworking tax payers which from the sound of your post you probably are living off our hard work. At least y'all cant blame Bush anymore hahahaha.
nope, u can keep your money you fool I work hard to support my family and my pride wouldn't allow me to take a dime of yoursocalled taxpayer money. I just hope you never find yourself needing any taxpayer money, because if I were you I would be mighty ashamed to take it. I'll reiterate my previous statement by saying we all should come together in times like this, not split apart like enemies. Time will tell if Obama is a good president or not, he now has another four years to accomplish what he failed to do in the previous 4 years. At the same time I also believe that both Obama and boehner need to compromise on both sides to get this country moving forward. For those of you that disagree, you are the minority that stops progress from being made. After the sting of the election wears off I truly hope you guys come to your senses and realize we must move forward as one. God bless you all were all real American heroes when it comes down to it, almost all of us.
We should make it clear to any country from now on we will not start with grunts on the ground but with a noise they will never hear.
Looks like The Clinton News network sat on ANOTHER story to help Obama. It was declassified AFTER the election,,, surprise surprise !!!!!!!!!!
So Iran fires on US drones flying over Iranian land. Who exactly is in the wrong here? Who is being aggressive with who?
The U.S. gets caught flying drones over Iran and this incident will be inflated by the media as an act of unprovoked aggression. Venezuela should just fly some drones over Florida to monitor possible election fraud for fun. Fact is US has not right being all the way in the Middle East. Last time I checked, the US was located in North America! Talk about looking for trouble.
Stupid, read the article. The vehicle was in international airspace...or are you too stupid.
I guess you are too stuppid to read the whole article but the US Drone was flying over international waters.
Since when does flying over international waters = flying over Iran? Read the article before you post...
So do you read articles before you post or just guess at what they contain?
Did you actually read the article
"The drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait, U.S. officials said, adding it was engaged in routine maritime surveillance."
Giovanni. The article says "over international airspace" that's at a minimum 12 miles from Iranian airspace. Please READ before you comment.
The one who can read has clearly an advantage, the drone was in INTERNATIONAL airspace, I guess you know what that is suppose to mean, no?
I didn't know International water was Iranian land. Tell me more!
"The drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait, U.S. officials said, adding it was engaged in routine maritime surveillance."
Learn to read.
"The drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait, U.S. officials said, adding it was engaged in routine maritime surveillance."
How does anyone even know where the drone was lol you people that are tripping about "ooo international airspace" are suckers! Hahahaha you put too much faith in the wrong place 🙂
Absolutely, we should put all of our faith in an anonymous internet person like yourself that clearly has more accurate information than anybody else.
wonder what would happen is any other country was just "flying" drones 16 miles off the US main land...
Seriously, this is fu*king getting old.
You know the answer to that question – that drone would be toast, and our military would probably lob a few Tomahawks at the offending nation.
U.S. Government Motto: "Do as we say, not as we do."
They would be four miles outside of US territorial waters?
We might shadow them with fighters but we wouldnt fire. Russia does it all the time to test response times etc.
Heres an example ... care to look more clueless.
Iran probabably needs a new rubber band for the one they copied from us when they shot ours down before.
Let us pause for a moment to extend our thoughts and prayers to this US drone.
Back up hard drive found, drone still alive.
CNN this seems to be your "scoop", yet you don't seem to be publicising it much. What gives? With Benghazi, I'm convinced you weren't interested in investigating something that would most likely be damaging to the Administration. But with this, I'm thinking maybe you might be as incompetent as you are biased.
Well said sir, well said.
"Nuclear Power is the best clean source of energy for humanity". Most countries have it. But Iran can't?
We get all indignant when folks fly airplanes into our skyscrapers, but it's ok for us to routinely violate Iran's national boundries. (They just shot down the last one, and we send them daily).
We sold Iran all those weapons they use on us, just like we sold chemical weapons to our friend Saddam.
500,000 civilians dead in the middle east. Goes around, comes around. THAT's why 9/11 happened.
Sly, with any luck, perhaps one day Iran will give you a sample of their version of "nuclear power". Don't worry, soon enough you and your fellow geniuses will realize why those drones are overflying Iranian airspace.
Hey Jerk, it's time to go to WAR with Iran!!!!!!
They can have nuclear power, but they won't let the inspectors to their job...which probably means they're hiding something...like pursuing nuclear weapons. But on the bright side, if they build nuclear plants like they shoot down drones, they'll eventually blow themselves up.
Iran being such a peaceful neighbor, especially to Israel, I can't imagine why we would be concerned with them having nuclear power/nuclear weapons. Not to mention their respect for human rights, norms of humanity etc.
get the RUSSIAN snakes out of office and the problem will be fixed not with war let the world protest with their own people who don't even like their GOVNT but can't do much because of that KINGPIN big trouble maker
Yeah, I'm real worried about Iran ... what, 10,000 miles away?
But you are right about starting a war with Iran.
America should immediately declare war on Iran. And Syria. And Libya. And Pakistan. We should not withdraw from Afghanistan – we should triple the troops. We need to start war with Pakistan also. And Yemen. Lebanon is a threat – let's nuc them. Immediately nuc North Korea as well. While we're at it, the Russians and Chinese have been quite hostile, let's declare war on them also. And Dallas (hey, I'm a Niner fan!).
Yep, I think that would be wise to start a few wars – they are fun, our coffin-sales skyrocket, and lots of Mom's get to see their son come come in a box. Sounds smart. Oh, also Venezuela, Cuba, and LA.
Sly – Iran signed the NNPT. They got something in return for doing so. Then they violated it. From your statement you seem unaware of why Iran is an issue and why what they're doing is not a "right."
I became convinced as I read your missive that you have read few, if any, books of history. Out of the mess you implied it was the fault of America. Let me say, nothing justifies 9/11. The Armed Forces of the United States tracked down and executed the head of the perpetrators. I am all for "punitive raids" as practised in the 1800's. The thing about the Middle East, as History has shown, is that if you kill enough of them they will leave you alone for a couple of hundred years. That, my friend, is the long and short of it all. Education first, posting second.
John, Bin Laden stated that he conducted 9/11 because we shot down a civilian Iranian airliner murdering about 300 people. He also mentioned us propping up the murderous right wing fascist Shah of Iran, who killed 5000 students in one protest, with our support.
The Bush Oil Invasion of Iraq was not prompted by anything. We sold Saddam all the chemical weapons, since he was our ally. We invaded (looking for Al Queda? Please) and 500,000 died.
We constantly invade the middle east. We fly drones IN Iranian airspace daily, and we all know this drone was not out for a Sunday ride, whereever it was, if it even happened.
I say if we stay out of the middle east, and quit bombing women and children, they will be less willing to attack us.
Worth a try. War with Iran is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Aside from the President, they are a very moderate westernized nation, and being situated near Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq, they are potentially an important ally. Sounds crazy, but Iran is a MAJOR world player. Lots of oil, lots of power. They are not going away soon. Talk with them.
You don't say? The US constantly invades Iranian airspace with drones (remember the drone that was downed in Iranian airspace that the Iranians claimed was hacked?) and we are supposed to be outraged that they shot and probably purposefully missed a drone that was skimming the airspace?
Talk about hypocrisy. If the US doesn't respect Iranian airspace sovereignty, why should Iran respect international waters outside their borders? The BS never ends with the United States government and media, does it?
the amount of their hypocrisy is beyond human imagination! they are shameless!
hey american morons
if iranians flew a drone 16 miles from american coast lets say 16 miles from DC, would that be ok for you too shoot it down?
if yes? pls shut your face.
PS how the hell is it international airspace, while they flew over the PERSIAN GULF?
Google may help you answer your own question. If not, ask Air Force Officer.
Education fail on your part. Persian gulf is just a name. They don't own international waters.
and they first part? would it be ok for you if we fly drones 16 miles from your coast?
The Russians used to fly bombers up and down our coastline all the time during the Cold War, while in international airspace...we never once shot at one of them. You obviously have zero idea about what you're talking about.....
You can't be any more retarded than right now. It's called " INTERNATIONAL WATERS"
The U.S doesn't have a shipping channel for 20% of all the oil exports leaving it's shores every year either. That's why our 5th fleet is parked off Saudi Arabia you moron. It's to insure that oil supplies don't stop. Also, please don't even speculate that Iran could even get a Drone over to the U.S to spy on us with. That little wooden toy is called a Toy not a drone that they currently have. Period!
its called Persian Gulf so its our waters. if you fly too close off our coast we shoot at you. period.
hahaha cowards! you cant even beat bare-foot cave men in afghanistan in 13 years! so we will give you a kick ass and end your super power status forever!
During the Cold War, Russian bombers flew down our coastline regularly. Actually, beginning in the late 2000s they began doing it again. Also, in the late 2000s, a Russian bombing formation flew over a US battlegroup (which is actually a major no-no.) At no point did the US fire on any of these planes. Buzzing unfriendly nations is a part of playing in the big leagues and is hardly done only by the US. Your argument falls miserably.
yeah but you know no shame! if we let u come to close u may think that we are some kind of pakistan that u can rape and violate the airspace whenever you like! so have to let you know where is no go area starts eveytime!
I call bulls*&t on CNN/DOD; no corroborating third-party evidence cited. Iran has not confirmed it fired on a drone. Why release information on this "event"....a week later...and from "senior officials" which refuse to go on record? stfuplease.
I hope we can find and bring to justice whomever it was that offended the Iranians in this matter.
No, according to the report it wasn't a MiG at all. It was an Su-25 'Frogfoot' close air support aircraft. It's a russian verision of an A-10. That said, the gun is the primary armament. Close air support pilots should be proficent at aiming it. BUT... this is the Iranian military we are talking about. 99% hot air, 1%actual ability. I forsee us going in to put them in their place. Shooting at a US aircraft is an act of war no matter what. Our aircraft do not discharge weapons at or near other aircraft, especially in international waters. Remember this people: The Iranian military is a joke. It's all bluff. They have no technology, no skill, and no experience. They are STILL flying F-14's we gave to them in the 60's and 70's. (I might be wrong WHEN we gave them to them, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.) That drone, if it was armed with something as simple as an AIM-9 Sidewinder (range varies with models, a little over a mile usually) could have shot both of them down. The Iranians are beating their chest right now. But they're the ones who are gonna get rocked when the US and everyone else gets sick of agression in the most important oil route in the world.
That's a good point and our military officials know that too...so does the Iranian military....I see this story provided BY THE US MILITARY as propaganda to strike Iran or get support from the international community for more sanctions....
Actually, small correction they are not flying the F-14's anymore because they do not have replacement parts for it. Mostly they still have very old F-4's, MiGs and SU 25's.
They were just shooting a warning to US. They know that shooting the drone down would be a act of war. Which by the way US cyber war on Iran is according to Obama.
You invade their airspace with a military vehicle, unarmed or not, and don't expect to get an aggressive response? Come on, seriously. I wonder what would happen if an Iranian drone flew in US airspace. Answer: WAR. Stop being hypocrites.
Try to read for comprehension. The drone was in intl. airspace.
Did you even read the story, before posting your comments? Nevermind, you already answered that question, or at least I hope so.
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
I agree with your sentiment but it was international airspace, not Iranian airspace.
Aparrently You didn't read the article. The drone was in international air space east of Kuwait over the gulf. It was never in Iranian air space according to the article.
>>The drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait,<<
Check your reading comprehension.
To bad we didn't shoot down the Iranians for this act of war.
Reading comprehension fail.
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
The drone was in international airspace, you idiot. The bigger story is that the MSM and the White House intentionally covered the story up until AFTER the election.....
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
Shut up hippy. The only reason you ignorant @ss can sit behind a screen and type is because of the action US military takes.
"shut up hippy" – priceless dg!
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
I know reading is difficult for some people so let me cut and paste this section....."The drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait"
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
What was in report was drone was in international air space near Kuwait.
Can you read?! It says "The drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait"....
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
Did you even read the article or does international airspace mean nothing to you?
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
"The drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait..."
You might want to learn how to read before replying to posts.
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
It wasent even in there airspace.
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
International airspace. Pay attention while you read the article.
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
Obviously you missed the part about this taking place in international airspace.
You are mistaken. According to the article, we were not flying in Iranian airspace. The article reads that "...(t)he drone was in international airspace east of Kuwait, U.S. officials said, adding it was engaged in routine maritime surveillance." Of graver concern is the Obama administration's calculated silence regarding the incident before the election.
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
What part of "Over International Waters" did you NOT Comprehend?
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
So, you just ignored the part where it was in international airspace & closer to Kuwait? Nice.
I definitely believe the top secret people who wish to remain unidentified but provided all the specifics of this article enough to also believe they would disclose the position of the drone, and that position just happens to be in a place where they are conveniently not to blame. Sounds legit.
I would think the world would thank Iran for nearly removing one of those drones who seem to only extralegally kill civilians from existence.
msvf stfu
no ustfu
Those pilots must suck at air combat if they can't hit a drone. Makes you wonder about their Infantry and Armour training. For all their bluster they must know they have little chance in a conventional war with Israel or the U.S.
I hope Obama's bowing suit is back from the cleaners. He's gonna need it.
Time to send the armed drones in for the next recon mission.


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(TheBlaze/AP) -- If you believe the percentage is low...you'd be incorrect, according to a recent Associated Press-WE tv poll.
Turns out that of the men asked, more than 8 in 10 replied that they've always wanted to be fathers or think they'd like to be fathers someday.
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Here's a look at what the poll found regarding how men view fatherhood and the changes it has brought for those who have become dads.
About 8 in 10 fathers surveyed said they always knew they wanted to have children, compared with about 7 in 10 mothers, and 69 percent of dads called that long-standing desire to have children an important factor in their decision to have kids.
Dads were more likely than moms in the poll to say they saw positive effects from fatherhood on their love life and career, and they are just as likely as moms to say it improved their overall happiness, sense of accomplishment and sense of purpose.
When weighing whether to become a parent, mothers and fathers placed similar levels of importance on where they stood in their career and the impact having kids might have on their social life, and like mothers, saw having found the right person to have a child with and the joy of having children as the most important considerations.
Men who do not have children were just as likely as women without kids to say they want them someday. Among men under age 35, 91 percent are dads already or say they think they would like to have children someday.
Men were more likely than women to say the main reason they'd like to become fathers someday is to carry on traditions or family history. According to the poll, 14 percent of men called that a top reason compared with 4 percent of women. Women place greater emphasis on wanting to be a parent, to care for and raise a child - 22 percent among women who want children compared with 2 percent among men.
Three-quarters of dads said they were married when their first child was born. Among those men who aren't married and who would like to have children, about one-quarter say they would consider having or adopting a child without a partner, though 88 percent within this group say they do want to get married someday.
Men are a bit more skeptical than women that a single mother can do as good a job raising a child as two parents can, and men are more likely to say an increase in the number of single mothers is bad for society. Still, about half of men in the survey said the growing variety in family arrangements these days ultimately doesn't make much difference.
The AP-WE tv poll was conducted May 15-23, 2013, using KnowledgePanel, GfK's probability-based online panel. It involved online interviews with 1,277 people age 18-49, including interviews with 637 men. The survey has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.8 percentage points for all respondents; it is larger for subgroups.
KnowledgePanel is constructed using traditional telephone and mail sampling methods to randomly recruit respondents. People selected who had no Internet access were given it for free.


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Cleft Lip and Palate
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Tilt your head back a bit and look in the mirror. Do you see the way your nose connects to your upper lip?
Now open your mouth. Do you see the seam on the roof of your mouth? Sometimes you can feel it with your finger or your tongue. That's where your palate grew together in the middle. You can see that the palate goes from behind your top front teeth all the way to the back of your mouth.
What's a Cleft Lip or Cleft Palate?
The word cleft means a gap or split between two things. A cleft lip is a split in the upper lip. This can happen on one or two sides of the lip, creating a wider opening into the nose. A cleft palate is a split in the roof of the mouth. This leaves a hole between the nose and the mouth.
Sometimes a cleft lip and cleft palate occur together. Cleft lip and cleft palate are very common and occur in about 1 or 2 of every 1,000 babies born in the United States each year.
Cleft lip and cleft palate are birth defects. This means they happen while a baby is developing. Normally, the mouth and nose of a baby develop between the first 6 and 12 weeks of growth inside the mother. In some babies, parts of the lips and roof of the mouth don't grow together. Because the lips and the palate develop separately, it's possible to have cleft lip alone, cleft palate alone, or both together.
We don't always know why a particular baby has cleft lip or cleft palate. Sometimes the condition runs in families. This means that a person with cleft lip or cleft palate may have a relative with the same thing.
Other times, cleft palate is part of a syndrome, meaning there are birth defects in other body parts, too. Sometimes a cleft may be related to what happened during a mother's pregnancy, like a medication she may have taken, a lack of certain vitamins, or exposure to cigarette smoke. Most of the time, however, the cause of the cleft is unknown.
What Happens to a Kid With Cleft Lip or Cleft Palate?
A baby with cleft lip and cleft palate may have other difficulties that include feeding problems, middle ear fluid and hearing loss, dental problems, and speech problems.
Feeding problems
Have you ever laughed so hard while drinking milk that it came out of your nose? Because there is a hole between the nose and mouth in babies with a cleft palate, they have the same problem, but it can happen every time they drink and not just when they laugh. Fortunately, there are feeding specialists and special baby bottles that can help.
Ear and hearing problems
Kids with cleft palate can have hearing loss. This may be caused by fluid building up inside the ear. They usually need very small special tubes placed in their eardrums to help them hear better. Therefore, children with cleft palate should have their ears and hearing checked about once or twice a year.
Dental problems
Children with cleft lip or palate often have dental problems. These problems can include small teeth, missing teeth, extra teeth, or crooked teeth. All kids need to see the dentist regularly and keep their teeth clean. A kid with a cleft might need to go to the orthodontist for braces, too, to make sure his or her teeth grow in straight.
Speech problems
Kids with cleft lip or cleft palate may also have problems with speech. When you talk, the muscles of your soft palate help to keep air from blowing out of your nose instead of your mouth. Kids with cleft palate find their soft palate sometimes does not move well and lets too much air leak out the nose while speaking. That gives them problems with certain sounds and it makes them sound like they are speaking partly through their nose.
What Do Doctors Do?
Treating cleft lip or cleft palate takes a team of different types of specialists (in this case, people who are experts in helping kids with clefts). This team includes a plastic surgeon, a speech-language pathologist, an orthodontist, an otolaryngologist (a doctor trained in ear, nose, and throat problems — say oh-toh-lar-un-gah-lo-jist), an oral surgeon, a dentist, a geneticist, a social worker, a psychologist, an audiologist, and other health care specialists. Because there are so many different people for a kid to see, the team has a coordinator who works with the parents to help organize everything.
Kids with cleft lip and palate will need several surgeries to fix the cleft. The cleft lip is usually repaired by the time the baby is between 3 to 6 months old. During surgery, the doctor closes the gap in the lip. A person who has cleft lip repaired as an infant will have a scar on the lip under the nose.
The cleft palate is usually repaired at age 9 to 12 months. During surgery on cleft palate, doctors close the hole between the roof of the mouth and the nose and reconnect the muscles in the soft palate.
After surgery, kids will get regular hearing tests to check for hearing problems caused by fluid building up in the ears. If they have special tubes placed in their eardrums, the otolaryngologist will check to see if they are working properly in keeping the fluid from building up.
Lots of kids, including those with cleft lip or palate, need orthodontics or braces after their permanent teeth grow in. Braces can straighten crooked teeth.
Kids with cleft lip and cleft palate may also need a bone graft when they're about 8 years old. In a bone graft, a surgeon takes some bone, usually from the kid's hip, and uses it to fill in the gap in the upper gum area. This allows the upper gum area to hold the permanent teeth better and keep the upper jaw steady.
As kids with cleft lip or cleft palate grow older and become teenagers, some may want to have their scars made less noticeable, their jaws aligned, or their noses straightened. Operations to do these can improve a person's bite, speech and breathing, and appearance.
Living With Cleft Lip or Cleft Palate
Some kids with severe cleft lip or cleft palate have a flattened nose or small jaw. Other kids with just cleft palate may look just like everyone else. Either way, kids with cleft lip or cleft palate want to be treated like everyone else. A person might have cleft lip, but also have beautiful eyes, a great sense of humor, or a terrific slam-dunk!
If you have cleft lip or cleft palate, there may be some things about your face you can't change and some that you can. Doctors can do amazing things to make you feel good about the way you look on the outside, and you can do things to make yourself feel good about the way you are on the inside.
Even with the many successful operations and treatment for cleft lip and palate, some kids have a hard time growing up with this condition. They may have classmates who tease or bully them or who are just curious and want to know more about it.
In either case, kids with clefts can get help handling these situations by speaking with their parents, teachers, or counselors, and of course, any member of their cleft palate team. The good news is that kids with cleft lip or cleft palate can grow up to be healthy, happy adults!
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Movie Review Zodiac
Just when India was feeling happy about Hollywood movies being released here at the same time as they are in the U.S….comes this one. Zodiac. A thriller based on a real life serial killer – the Zodiac. Its been released in India almost 4 months late. Disappointing…the late release I mean. Was the late release in markets other than the USA (Europe in May, Japan in June ) planned because the movie wasn't expected to be a grosser?
In India at least there was no hype about this movie, just a few quiet reviews. And it was easy to get tickets even though it was released just a few days ago. And three-quarters of the theater was empty although the movie got good reviews.
The movie was every bit as good as the reviews said. Superb actually, if you enjoy crime thrillers. The movie has loads of drama and realism. The director (David Fincher) has given the viewer an effortless ride over the several decades that this crime took to unravel and he has done it in a way as to provide nail biting suspense. Rather tough to do considering the time span in which the events of the movie take place and even tougher considering that he never takes us into the mind of the serial killer.
The movie has three main characters…an ordinary but intense cartoonist Robert Graysmith (played by Jake Gyllenhaal), a star crime reporter Paul Avery (played by Robert Downey Jr.) and Inspector David Toschi (played by Mark Ruffalo). All of them put in a lot of effort to crack the case and as a result their personal lives are affected…
The movie opens with the first killing…and from then on there is a series of murders…and letters and threats by the Zodiac serial killer. The letters show his sick and twisted mind and his craving for attention…but they leave the police clueless. There is a code that the killer leaves with the police…and its interesting to see how the police finally crack it. Not that it helps them get any nearer the killer!
The killings take place in the late sixties and early seventies and I was quite fascinated with the way the director recreated that world…a world cluttered with typewriters, hand delivered letters and ill equipped police stations. One cannot help but wonder how the police ever managed to solve any kind of case at all in those days…!
The reason for the realism of the movie in not just the treatment (clean, stark)…it was also the way the viewer is pulled into the lives of those who try to track the killer…but everything about the actual killer is pure speculation. The killer is finally caught…but there is some ambiguity as to his identity and I liked the way the director has left it to the reader's imagination…
But no, I didn't find the end dissatisfying. The director does take pains to try and conclude the case…a case which ends about two decades after the first murders….a case where the clues have gone cold.
One thing though – you need to concentrate on the movie otherwise you could lose the thread.
There was this interview with David Fincher, the director in Times of India (Bangalore) just a few days ago, and this is what he says:
When you're talking about a serial killer you're not talking about the most confident people. They're always pictured in movies as being incredibly tough and assured, but that's not the case. The thing that's fascinating for me about Zodiac is I believe his compulsion and his addiction was not ultimately about maiming people or murdering them, it became about communicating with the San Francisco Chronicle and that became far more gratifying and far more seductive then what he started out doing.
That is what the movie is all about really. And the music tracks are haunting…seventies music…
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Thanks for theheads up. I think I will go get it on dvd and have a look.
I am currently in love with Nagesh Kukunoor and his work that I have just rented Iqbal and Hyderabad blues 2. Those were the only two I could get. I was spellbound by DOR and the feeling was cemented by the subtlety of 3 deerawein. Also he works with my darling Nasarudeen Shah.


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How arresting a targeted few affects many
ROCKFORD — Gang activity, shootings, armed robberies and stolen vehicles.
"There's a connection between all four. The crimes are often committed by the same individuals.
"They're very reckless and dangerous individuals," Rockford police Deputy Chief Dave Hopkins said at Friday's CompStat, the department's monthly accountability forum.
Robberies across the city increased 93 percent, from 28 in May to 54 in June, according to its statistics.
Auto thefts rose 43 percent, from 28 in May to 40 in June.
Hopkins said suspected gang members will commit an armed robbery to steal a vehicle, then use the vehicle to commit a shots-fired offense or an actual shooting.
As of July 1, police have targeted and arrested four people identified as gang members and responsible for many of the city's violent crimes. Arrest warrants have been sought for six others.
Since then, armed robberies are down 75 percent, shootings are down 66 percent, and stolen vehicles are down 37 percent.
"You can see how a small group of people can impact your overall crime," Hopkins said. "You don't have to arrest a lot of people."
Police are asking residents to help by not leaving their vehicles unlocked.
If you have any information about a suspicious activity, call the Rockford Police Department at 815-987-5824 or Crime Stoppers at 815-963-7867.
Chris Green: 815-987-1241; firstname.lastname@example.com; @chrisfgreen


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For the latest updates to Global Public Square, including show information and Fareed's Take, visit the new GPS site on CNN.com.
Not just the U.S. flag you stupid old woman. All flag wavers worldwide. Goll you are dumb.
The stupid one is the person who cannot communicate their thoughts in a clear and cohesive manner using written words.
You are the stupid one.
The stupid one is the person who ignores the function of the reply button, when one is available for him to use, preferring to write a stand alone comment in the hopes it doesn't get seen.
You are the stupid one.
The stupid one is one who refers daily to "Americans blindly waving their plastic flags made in China" and then when using the sentence "flag wavers" in another post, pretends to imply that it means all nations everywhere.
The stupid one is the person who back pedals from his original statements in an attempt to deflect what was an ignorant comment in the first place.
The stupid one is you, not the person who calls into question the original dumb comment.
The stupid one is the person who confuses a regional dialect with a speech impediment.
The stupid one is the one who insists there are no woman working in a field that women have been working in for decades; that's a stupid person.
Shall I go on, are you done trying to undermine my intelligence while displaying your own ignorance?
Because, see, I was referring to this post, which I answered "I doubt Jesus would be so American centric:"
"The greater Moses, Jesus Christ, will not make that same mistake and actually take for himself a fat ugly American woman with big teets for a wife. But obey his heavenly Father Jehovah, and go subduing in the midst of God's enemies as commanded.
You flag wavers are all going to die by the sword of Jesus Christ who is not come to bring peace to the world. But to kill every single one of you fat lazy idiots."
But your creative tap dancing is noted; probably why you chose to post this on a whole new page instead of continuing the thread.
Hi folks.
Freedom Fighters from India eat CACA.
They can't all be wrong.
Freedom Fighters carry the CACA flag.
Hi there @Blue Saffron. Would love to see you back! A source of inspiration for all of us..
..Eat caca
Hi folks. Blue Saffron eats CACA.
Hi folks.
Caca is good.
Blue Saffron eats my CACA.
Hi folks.
Banasy, Philip , my blue twin brother, and blue saffron eat CACA.
They can't all be wrong.
Hi folks out there.
Freedom Fighters in Kashmir and India eat CACA.
They can't all be wrong.
D.B. Pooper. Like a D.B. Cooper only fatter and uglier. Older even. And sometimes smells like rotten tuna. 🙂
Whose family coat of arms ties in the back.
Please @Blue Saffron give us a parting comment. We worship you.
Hey I am the real old beetch chrissy. Wuit using my name. But i agree on Blue Saffron. He is my hero too.
Without caca life on earth could not exist.
Without caca on pee pees AIDS wouldn't be pandemic.
Swallow LOL
True evil and laziness comes from within, not from someone else. Don't make the mistake of lurking for particular others to post something and then harp on them for it. Just post something. Sheesh.
Lurking. Logging on and scanning for particular s/n's to attack.
Trolling. Just like trolling for fish only is two old ladies baiting other bloggers. For example, saying things to get attention from certain individuals.
"Trashing a thread". That's when a person replies to someone's post and neither agrees nor disagrees, nor posts any points or counter-points. Rather simply attacks the original poster. Or, in some cases, post lists of meaningless words.
LOL you just described what you do!!! LOL @trashing a thread the way you trash all women hoping to get a sukking bite. Fukk u troll. Lazy fukky
I am Phlldo. Women are in-to dill dos don't u know.
You couldnt get laid if you were an egg limp boy
Got it? LOL
Dont be guilty of what I do. LOL Ima attention ho
This is one of your best unintentionally funny, and least self-aware, screeds yet, Philip/Nom.
I am sure that isn't the response you wanted.
Cuchumber. An overly obese man on meds falsely claiming to be disabled. Commonly, Cuchumbers post lists of words regularly trashing threads and live with their own mom's in an RV park.
Philip. An overly obese man who lives next to his piggy moo mommy and can't move cuz his tires are flat. LOL.
Palinwit. A bull dike secretly obsessed with Sarah Palin.
Wow!!! So many freedom fighting outfits in India. WOW!!!
Hinddooos must be pulling their usual "suppress the minorities routine" on them. After all the protesting, they took matters in their own hands. So there we have it.
Gimme Kashmir!! Gimme Sikhland!! Gimme Tamil Land!!! Gimme Muslimland!!!
FOLKS, just look at all the Freedom Fighting Outfits in India. They ain't no soup kitchens. Right?
Bfd. Over 33,000 freedom fighting orgs in the USA.
Philip. A bull dike secretly obsessed with Chrissy and banasy.
Oh yes she does.
Trolling. Just like trolling for fish only is two old ladies baiting other bloggers. For example, saying things to get attention from certain individuals.
LOL what are you doing right now with palintwit and Cuchumber?!?? Fukk.in old hag
Mr. Blue Saffron. For my sake please come say some parting words. We are dying for some intelligence here.
What feminists say.
^^^Has no idea what a feminist is^^^
Mr. Brew Sappon. You r an idiot. Got it?
You arent fit to lick Blue Saffrons azzz
Eating farts again or just giving a rim job
My name is Phildo and I talk about what women would rather use instead of me. LOL
I'll be back in the middle of the night to talk more sh!t about people LOL
I will be here posing as others. But really am just another fat focking American.
I will be here posing about others. But really am just another fat focking American.
I have to say that @Blue Saffron is the most knowledgeabke person to ever frequent these forums. I always enjoyed his comments. I am only saying this knowing he is gone and wont be reading this. Alas!
Using a stolen name. Alas!


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Sandeep Shukla
Recent News:
IIT Kanpur to Start New Cyber Security Center (August 2015)
Shifting to Embedded Systems for sustainability and developing communities (July 2014)
Sandeep Shukla named IEEE Fellow (Dec. 2013)
Shukla named editor-in-chief of ACM embedded computing journal (Nov. 2013)
Shukla named ACM Distinguished Scientist (Nov. 2012)
EEWeb featured engineer (Oct. 2012)
New embedded software design class to be offered this spring (Oct. 2012)
ICTAS research awards 2012 (July 2012)
Sandeep Shukla promoted to Professor (June 2012)
Shukla publishes book on low power design (Nov. 2011)
Shukla publishes books on hardware, embedded software synthesis (Sept. 2010)
New computing simulation tool nets best paper award for Shukla and colleagues (Feb. 2010)
Shukla invited to Frontiers of Engineering Symposium (Jan. 2010)
Guaranteeing bug-free software for critical embedded systems (Jan. 2010)
Souping up hardware sim speed (2010 Annual Report)
Resilient, sustainable infrastructures (2009 Annual Report)
Creating a visual environment for safety-critical embedded software (2009 Annual Report)
Shukla receives Humboldt Foundation Award (May 2008)
Safety-critical embedded software: Correct by construction? (2008 Annual Report)
Embedded computers research by Virginia Tech's Shukla attracts national attention (July 2007)
Nano electronics bring mega design challenges (2007 Annual Report)
Researchers from Virginia Tech and beyond meet to advance nanocomputing (April 2006)
New defect-tolerant architectures needed for rampant unreliability in nanotechnology (Feb. 2004)
Boosting the productivity of embedded systems designers (2003 Annual Report)
Office/ Mailing Address:
Indian Institute of Technology, Kanpur
Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh.
Room No. RM508
Department of CSE
Tel: +91 (512) 259-6342
cse.iitk Email: sandeeps AT cse.iitk.ac.in
Title: Poonam and Prabhu Goel Chair Professor
Ph.D., State University of New York at Albany, 1997
M.S., State University of New York at Albany, 1995
B.E., Jadavpur University, Calcutta, India, 1991
Teaching Interests:
Formal methods, System level design for hardware, software, and embedded systems, Network application design, Formal verification, Stochastic methods in embedded systems design, Embedded software engineering, System synthesis
Research Interests:
Formal methods, System level design languages and frameworks, Component based and platform based design, System level power management, Formal verification and its use in system design, Concurrency analysis, Embedded systems design and co-design, Software engineering for embedded aystems, Distributed object technology and its application in embedded systems design, Networked embedded systems, Self-stabilization and fault-tolerant distributed systems
Textbooks Published
Low Power Design with High-Level Power Estimation and Power-Aware Synthesis
Ahuja, Sumit, Lakshminarayana, Avinash, Shukla, Sandeep K.
(Springer) 2012
Low Power Hardware Synthesis from Concurrent Action-Oriented Specifications
Singh, Gaurav, Shukla, Sandeep K.
(Springer) 2010
Synthesis of Embedded Software
Editors: Shukla, Sandeep K.; Talpin, Jean-Pierre
(Springer) 2010
Problems in Computing - Essays in Honor of Professor Daniel J. Rosenkrantz
Editors: Ravi, S.S.; Shukla, Sandeep K.
(Springer Netherlands) 2009
IP Reuse for SoC Integration and Microprocessor Design
Authors: Mathaikutty, Deepak A.; Shukla, Sandeep
Copyright 2009
for Successful System Level Design Methodology
Authors: Patel, Hiren D., Shukla, Sandeep Kumar (Springer), 2008
SystemC Kernel Extensions for Heterogeneous System Modeling: A Framework for Multi-MoC Modeling & Simulation
Authors: Patel, Hiren D., Shukla, Sandeep Kumar
(Kluwer Academic (Springer) Publishers), 2004, E-Book
Formal Methods and Models for System Design: A System Level Perspective
Authors: Gupta, R.; Le Guernic, P.; Shukla, S.K.; Talpin, J.-P. (Eds.)
(Kluwer Academic (Springer) Publishers), 2004, E-Book
Nano, Quantum and Molecular Computing Implications to High Level Design and Validation
Authors: Shukla, Sandeep Kumar; Bahar, R. Iris (Eds.)
(Kluwer Academic (Springer) Publishers), 2004, E-Book


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The Ubuntu Linux distribution has received a major update today. The new version, Ubuntu 9.10, will introduce several significant new features and will deliver the latest version of the GNOME desktop environment and other applications.
This is the eleventh release of Ubuntu since the project's inception five years ago. The distribution has achieved an unprecedented level of popularity in the Linux desktop ecosystem and has attracted a considerable audience. Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, touts the new release as its best yet and says that the latest improvements will take the Ubuntu user experience to the next level.
Ubuntu 9.10, codenamed Karmic Koala, is the first release to include Ubuntu One, Canonical's new Web synchronization service. We first looked at Ubuntu One earlier this year during the beta testing stage. The service has gained several new features, including support for synchronizing contacts from the Evolution mail application and notes from Tomboy. Users can activate the Ubuntu One service by launching it from the Applications menu in the GNOME panel.
The new version of Ubuntu also offers an improved startup experience with new artwork and significantly improved boot performance. There are minor usability improvements throughout the entire distribution thanks to the Papercuts project, an initiative launched by Canonical to address user interface weaknesses in GNOME and other upstream projects. Ubuntu 9.10 has a new framework for programmers called Quickly that will automatically generate code templates to help get application development up and running faster.
GNOME 2.28, the latest version of the GNOME desktop environment, brings some nice enhancements to Ubuntu 9.10. This is the first version of Ubuntu to include GNOME's Empathy instant messaging client and overhauled audio preferences tool. Empathy has support for voice and video chat, Adium themes, and a number of other features.
Other important upstream software shipped with Ubuntu 9.10 includes version 2.6.31 of the Linux kernel and Firefox 3.5, which adds new features like private browsing mode and support for the HTML 5 video element.
"Ubuntu 9.10 gives users more reasons than ever to seriously consider Linux at a time when many are thinking again about their operating system options. We are delivering a platform for users interested in an easy-to-use, great-looking, web-friendly operating system," said Canonical COO Jane Silber in a statement. "A faster, more beautiful boot and login sequence, file and contact synchronisation through online services and great experiences on the most popular notebook, desktop and netbook models continue to drive Ubuntu into the mainstream of computing choices."
The Ubuntu development community has also released updated versions of the Ubuntu server and netbook editions along with a number of other variants such as KDE-based Kubuntu. For more details, check out the feature tour and official release notes. Users can download the new version from the Ubuntu website. Watch for our detailed review next week.


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Oak Ridge dominate Beavers
The Beaver Brook Swim Team erected a dam that couldn't hold the Oak Ridge City Aquatics team.
In a 349-337 victory, ORCA remained undefeated, moving to 2-0. The team was led by Ryan Mihealsick, Lucy Groscost and Mason Fischer, who each notched victories in three races. Grant Groscost, Trevor Haisten, Loki Hondorf, Tyr Hondorf, Connor Logan and Egan Rawn all came away with two victories each.
ORCA also sailed to eight relay victories, which may have been the deciding factor.
Coach Lars Hondorf said he was proud of his team.
"The swimmers did an excellent job, stepping up and competing against a very good team," he said. "They all tried their best and managed to find a way to win the meet. An excellent job all around."
Many other swimmers placed well. Notably, Brian Fuson, Olivia Haste, Vidar Hondorf, Michael Ma, Harrison Whitson, Chen Chen Zhang and Lawrence Zhang each won a race.
"I continue to be impressed by the efforts of all the swimmers," said Coach Bre Moyers. "Since the beginning of practice, each swimmer has made infinite improvement. I'm proud of all the hard work and heart the swimmers put into each race. Go ORCA!"
Some less experienced swimmers took time off of their bests. Marisa Colvais, Halle Durand, Maggie Froning, Alex Greenhalgh, Marcus Reasor, Sean Reasor, Daphne Seay, and Owen Southern were among those swimmers. Likewise, Madeline Gao and Stephen Zhukov, merely 6 years old, swam great races against older competitors.
"I'm so proud of our younger and less experienced swimmers for being competitive with a very talented team. Many competed using strokes and skills that they just learned this week. They continue to impress me with their 'can do' attitudes," said Coach Betsy Hondorf.
Next up for ORCA will be an away meet against Peninsula Club Swim Team.


text: The only thing you get to change is yourself, and in the prerequisites to this course we've given you real tools to do that. Now, use those tools to influence the course of your future, your team's future, and your organization's future. Make a plan for yourself that will help you help others, and learn skills to make it happen. Listening and being sure of your values underpins everything that comes with professional influencer and leadership soft skills. We'll go on to look at self-assessment and leadership planning, negotiation, addressing and resolving conflict, and successfully identifying and promoting circumstances you want. After this course, you will be able to: - state your own mission and plan with confidence - negotiate and persuade - deal with difficult people - contribute to crafting a working environment you want to work in The prerequisites for this course are Courses One and Two of the Specialization "Professional IQ: Preventing and Solving Problems at Work".