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(CBS 5) – Smoking cigarettes is the cause of so much preventable, deadly disease. But now new research shows sitting for long stretches of time may be just as dangerous.
"Smoking certainly is a major cardiovascular risk factor and sitting can be equivalent in many cases," explained Dr. David Coven, cardiologist with St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center in New York.
Dr. Coven said several new studies show prolonged sitting is now being linked to increased risk of heart disease, obesity, diabetes, cancer, and even early death.
"The fact of being sedentary causes factors to happen in the body that are very detrimental," said Dr. Coven.
Dr. Coven says when you sit for long periods of time; your body goes into storage mode,
When that happens, it stops working as effectively as it should. What's worse, the more hours a day you sit, the greater your likelihood of developing one or more of these diseases, just as with smoking.
Linda Caufield has a desk job. She sits nearly seven hours a day.
"I'm on the computer, I'm on the phone, I'm doing paperwork so all that stuff has to be done at my desk," she said.
Linda had no idea her desk was so deadly, noting how "sitting is probably killing me."
Paul Golin says he was sitting up to eight hours a day. But after a recent heart health scare, he bought a "stand up" desk. It's a contraption that rests on a treadmill.
"I turn on the treadmill and walk for about an hour a day," said Golin.
Golin's measures may seem extreme but so are the consequences of sitting. Dr. Coven recommeded to just get up and move when you can.
"Any time you get the blood pumping, the blood moving, it stimulates the organs to do things that are healthier," said Coven.
If you think that hour of cardio you do every day negates the effect of your desk job, think again.
So get up at the office at any chance you get, don't send emails when you can deliver the message in person, take the stairs, stand up when you take a phone call. And don't forget to take your breaks, and take a walk.
To view research from American College of Cardiology, click here.
Other research on effects of sedentary behavior:
Karolinska Institutet editorial, published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine
Sitting time and mortality from all causes, cardiovascular disease and cancer
Leisure time sedentary behavior and metabolic syndrome
Leisure time sitting and mortality in U.S. adults
Sedentary Behavior & Colorectal Cancer
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here we go again. another liberal study to give greedance to their existance. As get older you are going to sit more. no one has the same DNA or genes and no one has the right to tell others how to live.
You do if you are a Democrat!!!!
what a stupid comment. if in any way shape or form you get healthcare assistance, including individual health insurance because that spreads risk around and can raise others premiums you should be told what to do. however if your paying totally out of pocket i don't care what you do to yourself because it doesn't affect me. however at this point with 66% of americans being overweight many obese you lost your right to choose for yourself.
Democrats do like pounding on others over nothing.
Relax buddy. Why don't you just have a seat and not get so bent out of shape. Just something to think about. That's all. But I don't want to tell you what to do or anything.
"But I don't want to tell you what to do or anything." – HAHAHAHA You just did.
Nobody's telling you what to do, there's no "liberal" conspiracy 🙂 It's just common sense. We're talking about risk factors here. Obviously we have different genes, one can drink smoke and be a couch potato and live 80 but chances are not.
It's G.W.'s fault! He's responsible for 9/11, JFK and my dog's death!
Just because someone recommends something to you does not mean you have to do it. Sitting is extremely detrimental to ones health. This is logical to everyone I would hope. Sitting for short periods of time are fine if you sit correctly.
Sitting for 8 straight hours with 1 break is not at all healthy. Think back to how human beings evolved. We walk upright for a reason. If you start using your legs then your healthy will vastly improve.
Walking is the worlds greatest exercise. Don't wait till tomorrow. Start today. On your next break or as soon as you get home, walk for 5-10 minutes. That's all you need for you to see what it can do for your life.
I'd say being hateful and obsessed with liberals is bad for your health as well.
100% correct, and I'm a conservative. Don't understand why "everything" must be political for some. Great comment.
Amen man! Some people will make 2+2=4 a political argument
Oh, it's so obvious to anyone but the hopelessly naive…….."They" have raised gas prices as far as possible without fomenting a rebellion, so now that you can longer sit in your car, "They" are coming after your Lazy Boy. Along with your smokes, your sodas and your french fries. At least have the decency to buy a green chair.
You deniers are killing the planet! We're all gonna die!
Until politicians lose the ability to use information to sway public opinion and pass laws, it's all political.
Uhm, you don't sound like your part of the 52% of Americans who are Conservative, and I'm sure you are a Liberal.
yup stress kills too 🙂
This is just a prelude to taxing people for sitting on their duffs. Obamie has to pay for the healthcare fiasco somehow. Wonder if they will put some kind of gismo on our rears to record how long we sit.
actually it is quite healthy to feel consternation for leftie miscreants. cathartic.
"greedance"? What the hell is that?
You never heard of Greedance Glearwater Gravel Robble?
What's wrong with being healthy? You don't HAVE to do it. It's just that if you want to lead a healthier lifestyle you should move more. It's not a political thing, it's just common sense.
Good, go be healthy and STFU – and don't forget to work hard so you can pay for my healthcare!
You're an idiot.No one has to sit more just because they are older. No one is telling others how to live
Wow Tim, you are kind of a dumb a** huh? To give "greedance?" And why does this have anything to do with liberal or conservative? Because the study warns of being sedentary? Yeah, I definitely see how warning fat Americans that being lazy is part of the liberal agenda.
You appear to be nothing more than another impressionable underachiever who can't distinguish between reality and the nonsense that Rush and Sean spew daily…
No one has the right to tell others how to live? Of course they don't. And this article is obviously not trying to dictate your behaviour at all. They see health risks associated with sitting around a lot, and they report it. You yourself decide whether you want to stay sedentary or not. But you're a moron, and would rather see it as some kind of liberal conspiracy.
I wonder where people like you live… I've never met someone with your special brand of stupidity…
This study is full of it. I worked in Assisted Living for over a decade. All these people do is sit and they're living on and on and on… Look in the nursing homes, Alzheimer's unit. Sad, but true. This study is bunk.
Whether the above study is scientific could be up for question. Your "study," seenitall, however, is not. It's anecdotal. Besides, you've basically disproven your point–these elderly people that are sitting around all day are not healthy in any sense of the word.
You sound fat.
really fat!
I agree, they had to tell us that knowin gwe are sitting here reading it. I won't do that again. Stress is even more dangerous.
Hmmmmm, this is a very good article. Going to link to it. Note: if you are interested in solving this very real problem, maybe take a look at
poker-isometrics.com , it gets very deep into how to stay fit if you are someone who has to spend a lot of time sitting.
Calm down there, tim–no one's trying to take away your god-given right to sit around on your ass all day if you so choose. This is to inform you of the risk you're taking if you do so. What you do with that info is totally up to you–right in line with your conservative values. If you want to develope a tunnelling sore on your backside, so be it. Or did the pinko scientists create the conspiracy of bed-sores too?
How many of you just stood up?
Studies also show half of all heart attacks occur to obese people getting up out of their chairs.
What freedoms are they after now ?
Your God given right to do absolutely nothing!
I guess we sitting smokers are scr*wed.
yea we are now get up off your fat a** and grab another Dagwood
Thats why we get up for smoke breaks. So, if you get up to smoke it offsets the bad sitting. Works for me. Now if we can only find a study that proves drinking beer at work improves productivity.
Do These Friggin Lib's Ever Give Up? What Next?
This is obvious . . .
Standing may is dangerous! We must stop standing! We must pass a law!
This isn't politics. It's about being healthy. Stop politicizing that which never was.
If you believe it isn't political than I have a few bridges to sell you.
Looking forward to peddle to watch your tv?
So being an unhealthy fat a$$ is now part of the GOP platform?
I'm a conservative, but I suggest that if you don't like this, sit down and have a cigarette. We could use more room in the gene pool.
As a conservative, let me say that you are an idiot. Article is only pointing out that it's healthy to not sit and to get off your butt. When Obama/Pelosi read this and try to pass a law banning chairs in the workplace and home and/or create a govt mandate to buy one of those treadmill desks mentioned in the article, that is when the liberalism kicks in.
Well said.
Wonder who paid for this bit of bull*hit. Probably the taxpayers. Farting fouls the air and this study smells of "give me some free money."
Who paid For This::: The Same International Mega Corporation Washington Lobbyists That Draft All Our Laws and Kill Our Soldiers in Foreign Corporate Ground Wars. Right?
Let this be a warning to people in wheelchairs.
What about second hand sitting?! Is that dangerous? Will Bloomberg out law sitting? Can't wait.
Butt tax now! Do it for the children!
OMGosh! @StaticKlingon That was a great comment!
Butt Tax
LMAO, then I stood up, and dropped my cigarette!
Ha ha ha ha. I laughed out loud when I read your comment, very well done.
This made me laugh right out loud, Amen!
Such BS….
pfft! scientists! what do they know?!?
Who is Dr Coven? Why should we care what he says? All the article says is that Dr Coven is a cardiologist, but gives no specifics, such as from where he graduated, where he practices (does he practice?), or whether he has ever been published. Other than that, the article's sources are two random people who like to sit. This is shoddy.
Well to be fair, click here: http://www.healthgrades.com/directory_search/physician/profiles/dr-md-reports/dr-david-coven-md-1759c04d
But… so what. 100,000 other cardiologists will say something different.
I'm afraid not. All they will recommend moderate physical activity
Being a Physician seems to be the ONLY occupation where you can just take a guess, perscribe narcotics, and suggest manditory proceedures that effect lives, and people will believe you without any supporting studies, facts, or examples. I thought Psychiatrists were probably the worst of the bunch, but this takes the cake.
This is a lame report, of course sitting on your duff will eventually cause health issues, usually it is just a fat A$$.
more stupid nanny state leftist bs.
Study failed to disclose that the unscientific study was bought and paid for by the "Ronco Vibrating Exerciser Chair", only 99,99 at a Chinamart near you.
So using the same logic behind the regulations and taxation of smoking, can we expect a tax on sitting in public places soon? Maybe a ban on all public benches? The great and all knowing government does know whats best and has an obligation to look out for those that don't know better.
Good suggestion Michael 😀
Ban Public Benches and Toilets, Yeah!!!
Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for anyone to sit around. Hee Hee.
What's next a breathing tax?
Opening your eyes can be damaging to your health?
Opening your mouth seems to be risking your health and the welfare of others too.
Let's tax talking.
These studies are so ridiculous!
Quick, let's pass a law that requires all U.S. citizens to purchase a gym membership. This will reduce the cost of health care because people will now have access to a gym. For those of you that don't think the Gov't can't make a U.S. citizen purchase something, they have already passed the Healthcare law that mandates you buy health insurance so why not this? For those of you that think the government mandating a gym membership is a good idea, please look beyond this and ask "what else are they going to force me to do?"
Not just gym memberships, but gym memberships at gyms owned by the banks…
Yes, and lets not forget to include that the gym must be unionized "green" gyms as well. 🙂
They could force all businesses to purchase stand up desks, or to implement an exercise program into the day. The possibilities are endless which is what makes obamacare such a dangerous slippery slope.
o like car insurance? or do you mean a yearly car registration? or were you referring to school taxes that force even people without kids to contribute to the public school system? don't be crazy an act like this is the first thing the government has ever made you buy, if i had more time i could make a list as long as this article of things the government already makes you buy
The government does not force you to buy car insurance or car registration because they don't force you to buy a car. Forcing the purchase of heath insurance is different because to be exempt you have to choose not to live (assuming you are not associated with one of Obama's union masters).
…and you don't have to pay taxes, if you choose not to work (or at least not make too much money working). I bet a significant portion of people okay with Government mandated health insurance pay an insignificant portion of the taxes needed to support it.
That sitting woman's head is completely flat on top! That's amazing. Reminds me of the joke of having a place to put your beer can at.
Tim's comment: spoken from a true lazy obese man.
Beach..enough with the hate and intolerance.
New Restaurant Policy — No Smoking, No Sitting. New Michelle Obama Approved Menu.
i bet every one of you are fat
Insults are the last resort of the ignorant.
haha fat is not an insult it's our constitutional right!!! You'll have to pry my lazy-boy from my cold, dead (from heart disease) hands!
ps: this whole thing is my favorite news article comment thread I have ever read. I love America
Because we are against being controlled? I am not fat, I play hockey and soccer, but let's just pretend that I am for now. I would rather be fat and free than skinny and enslaved.
It's a doctor's recommendation, simple as that. There's no hint in this article that a law will be put in place for you to stand.
All the comments here just give conservatives/drudge readers a bad name.
I'm not fat, but my cardiologist is.
When chairs are outlawed, only outlaws will have chairs.
Guys I'm just as, if not more conservative than the anyone, but I truly do not get why you all are making this a political thing. This is a medical / science thing. If you do not agree with it then do your own research and come up with facts to support your hypothesis. Anyone who argues with science without scientific evidence to support their argument sounds pretty dumb. And it is common sense that sitting at your desk all day is bad for your health. I don't need a doctor to tell me that.
Because reports like this are used to justify new laws under the guise of protecting the general public. I'm personally not arguing against the science of this study. The results of her study should be rather obvious. But there are those in our government that think they know better than the rest of us lowly constituents and use these reports as justification.
Please feel free to sit.
Michael, you are right. It all starts out with "INobody's telling you what to do"… I see manadatory gym memberships and fines if you don't get one….you know, like health insurance. I can see a brown shirt checking off my "gym time card" as I exit the building. BTW all of you…"I'm a conservative, but………." Save it. You're tools. Lemmings.
Uh… who says there are going to be 'new laws' in this regard?
Jumping the gun a bit, aren't you?
I am not disagreeing with the science of it. I don't think it is really news that sitting in one spot for 40+ hours a week is good for a persons health. I think we are showing our cynicism in the article and looking ahead to what Congress does best, find a way to further control, for the good of the people of course (removing tongue from cheek)
Do you realize this is not a political debate? People need to chill out.
Because, unfortunately, the message of "movement for health" is way, way overplayed…..Reduce the carbs, and watch just about ALL health issues dissappear. I was fat and very active, now I am a very low carber….sit at a desk ALL day, and have perfect health.
The Gov., as with many things, has led us astray…
Because this is CBS. a division of Soros Nazi machine ( obama's puppeteer) and it furthers his agenda.
Now do you understand?
I smoke while sitting…
Somewhere in TX, Dubya is drinking cheap beer and laughing his azz off.
What else does he have to do? He killed enough people to last the rest of his life.
^ bush derangment syndrome is a serious condition. How many has Obumbler killed by your logic? What are we at, three, four wars now? Sit down and have a smoke friendo.
Thanks to Obama, there is no such thing as cheap beer anymore. Sad but true.
Check out http://www.juststand.org for tips on how to stand more throughout the day.
This article brought to you by the makers of "The Stand Up Desk" . If you act NOW you will not DIE!
"don't send emails when you can deliver the message in person"
Seriously? Has the person who wrote that ever had a real job? People better not be lined up next to MY desk delivering messages in person!
So I guess sitting on your @$$ collecting welfare and unemployment is bad for your health…the cure is no more free money at taxpayer expense…work or starve!
I agree with incorporating more activity into each day, but complacent heifers need to be prodded. This article is suggestive, not yet Obamunist-authoritarian: lazy, saddle butted waddlers can do better than grow wide and soft on chairs and sofas.
Just like Cigarettes? Maybe we should BAN all Chairs or Tax their use
I'm a conservative and this is not a political issue unless Obama starts mandating standing desks.
I started standing at work in January and have noticed a difference. The corner of my desk actually elevates to waist height. I don't feel as restless or sluggish and have lost a few pounds. I do sit down for lunch or if I just feel like sitting. I'll usually only sit for 2-3 hours throughout the day. This is much better than 8 hours though. If you can get a standing desk, I'd highly recommend it.
Office workers can combat the ill effects of sitting by aggressively grinding their pelvises back and forth in their chairs. It will improve circulation greatly, and it won't look odd. I promise.
Hey, it works…I'm already feeling great! And it has also increased my productivity, I had a line of people not wanting to send me an email lined up at my door..as soon as I started this they all left…I am now free to get my work done! Thanks for the advice Static!
So remember kids, get up plenty during the day, at least once in the morning to get doughnuts, again at lunch to go to McDonalds, and again in the afternoon to the vending machine.
Now all we need is the scientific study that will tell us that, if we all wil drag two ton blocks into a pyrimid shape a mile high, that the world will soon be free from fat. The word on the street is that we will just be taxed a buck for every pound we weigh per month. Can't wait.
This story is yet more proof that 'Liberalism is a mental disorder'!
Where else but San Francisco would a story like this dare to appear in print?
In a number of places, actually. This isn't the first story about this to hit the internet.
Love your screen name … hope you don't live in SF; the know-nothings would be baying at your door.
If I stop sitting now will I be able to reverse the awful effects of years of sitting? And if so, how long will it take? Or is it too late for me (I'm 58). Gosh, I wish I'd known about this sooner.
actually, you all have it wrong, Obama doesn't want us to sit, or stand…he wants us to kneel and pay homage to his greatness. So, kneeling, along with the revised food pyramid-into-a-michelle-concoction plate, will be standard government issue health wares.
We needed a study for this?
Breaking news: Sitting around on your fat ass all day is bad for you. Also breaking news, excercising is good for you.
Endless useless studies, yet another violation of our rights. Add it to the list of gov't violations of our rights:
They violate the 1st Amendment by placing protesters in cages, banning books like "America Deceived II" and censoring the internet.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns.
They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by molesting airline passengers.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars for foreign countries.
Impeach Obama, vote for Ron Paul.
(Last link of Banned Book):
Dude, put down the Kool-Aid.
This is a study that talks abotu the negative effects of sitting for long periods. It is NOT about the government! Not everything is. Are you suggesting that we DON'T do medical studies and not try to use them to find solutions to health problems?
Quick! Ban sitting in all public places! Airplanes, casinos, work places, court rooms, hospitals, restaurants, bars, theaters, city parks, cars with children. Time to install the "1984" TVs into our houses to nake sure we are doing our daily exercises. I'd like to think I'm joking, but I see it as a soon to be reality.
P.S.: Can I sue my chair manufacturer for not posting a warning on my chair?
Really? We needed ANOTHER study to explain the obvious. How much taxpayer money for this useless study? Good grief, can we get a study on how much harm Liberals do to the country. Now, that would be a worthwhile study.
I wonder if his waiting room is a standing room only? He sounds like a pretty stand up guy! I guess after this report he's standing tall. Hope he doesn't have kids because he'd have a hard time finding a baby sitter.
…and in other news…… a new study released identified "life" as a terminal STD.
I am contacting Congressman Anthony Weiner to lead the charge in this "Stand UP When You Can" initiative. Yes we can!
That does it! I am quiting my desk job and applying to be a porn star!
Next Week: Harry Reid introduces legislation to ban chairs
There must be a lawyer behind this. The suits from cops, truck drivers, airline pilots, etc., against their employers for increased health problems will soon follow.
Lets just start investing in giant boubles tio live in. Cause just waking up going outside could kill me any minute. Lets not foerget about the dangers of your house. Its just slowly killing you. Everything is as bad as smoking.
we better start giving desk job people at least 2 hours of paid work time to stand around. I'd be willing to wager this woman sits down after work too so that 7 hours a day maybe more like 22 hours a day? probably.
Ban Sitting! Tax Sitting! Ban and Tax- that's the answer to everything, isn't it?
Our founding fathers would be so proud, wouldn't they?
I've always been amused by the term "early death." It implies that the actual date of someone's death is known and that the person arrived early for the appointment.
The same holds true for "died before his time." To be accurate, if it wasn't "his time", he wouldn't be dead. Everybody dies; everybody has their "time."
Truth is, we begin to die the moment we draw our first breath.
The real problem here is that manufacturers are allowed to install legs on their chairs. Ban chair legs and this problem goes away.
If we could save just one!
Standing in the street can be dangerous too. I'll bet some liberal is doing a study on that one right now…
Considering the countless number of office jobs since the 50's, 60's, 70's's, 80's, 90's et al- shouldn't everyone, more or less, be dead? I'm just waiting for our eminent Surgeon General to claim you can die if you sit down just once.
At my job when I go on break, which I usually don't, I sit down because my feet hurt from back breaking labor. Wanna trade? Its for your own good.
What's the deal with people trying to politicize this? Isn't it obvious that being sedentary for forty plus hours a week is unhealthy?
he'll sign it sitting down.
Great! Now we can look forward to government mandated standing laws…
It's a sure bet that president obummer will create a commision to further study standing in the workplace and at home…
I propose Bill H249S01 To Ban all chairs by 2018.
Just thought I would propose it before the government.
Are you kidding me? Sitting is deadly? Are you serious? Really? Sitting? Deadly? Is this for real? How stupid do you think we are?
Just goes to show you there's a quack somewhere in the world that's willing to sound like an ass to get attention.
Can you prove this guy's a quack? He's saying that sitting for long periods can cause health problems and guess what? It does. Not getting on your feet for any long period can be detrimental to your health.
Or is that wrong?
Funny how most these days can turn anything political or that they are invading your rights.
Most of you would not take a job that requires labor anyway. You want to sit at your desk and collect big money for no physical action at all. That is America today and you wonder why the job of building widgets got shipped overseas.
No common sense. Just complaining about the things you have caused your self.
The universe is infinitely large and our planet is a small speck, and each of us smaller still. And we're going to die no matter what. So sit down, have a smoke, enjoy your limited time.
'Second hand 'sitting. What about that? Is it harmful too?
That settles it. We must tax sitting immediately!
As an avid cyclist I have questions. I sit while riding my bike. This means that I sit at a higher rate of speed than others. Will my accelerated sitting cause me to die sooner or will it be mitigated by the exercise of riding the bike?
OMG Doggiedog that was so funny I dropped my cigarette on my chair! LOLOL!
Shows the importance of getting up and stretching…take a cigarette break.
Living life almost ALWAYS leads to death.
Haven't read the comment thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned. As a architect I have advocated stand-up desks for many years. The old drafting tables were stand-up with a stool to sit on, lean against or simply ignore. It is a great way to work. A rail or some sort of step-up below the desk lets the user bring up one foot and is very helpful to relieving back strain.
If you can get you company to switch. Ernest Hemingway, Donald Rumsfeld and many other famous people have found these arrangements to be excellent alternatives.
It's studies like this that make us all ignore studies.
Is this study supposed to be groundbreaking or cutting edge? I wonder how much research was done to arrive at this conclusion. I wonder if taxpayer dollars funded this research (:
Why don't they do a study on fluoride and how it causes cancer? The same amount that is in one glass of most public water systems is the exact amount the toothpaste tube tells you to "seek medical attention" for.
Fluoride also attacks the thyroid, causing lethargy.
Fluoride is a carcinogen.
Fluoride causes bone fluorosis (fragile, hard bones).
Ingestion of fluoride has shown no measurable increase in the strength of teeth, it is only external application that makes a difference.
If you don't believe me, look around a bit. Think for yourself.
So let me get this straight, the average life span of a human is now around 72 years old, so if I don't sit my average life span will now be ? 74 ? 76? i think i'll take the 72 and still sit.
This is the usual rationalization and justification we get from the hardcore chair addict. We can't help you until you hit bottom. In the meantime, try to remember that Denial isn't a river in Egypt. Hope that helps.
complain and self reason all you want. I watched my Grandmother sit all the time, she lived to be 86.. so deny that.
The researcher in the photograph is probably terminal then. Just a matter of time now. Could be days, could be years …
"If you think that hour of cardio you do every day negates the effect of your desk job, think again."
Has Dr. Mulvihill MET an American?
Great now my Health Insurance will charge me more for standing. Thankfully, I don't sit and smoke at the same time…:)
Supplemental stand-up desks like from standupdesks.com or schoolsin.com are growing in popularity even though they have been around for hundreds of years.
You can bet your a$$ that George W. Bush was in bed with Big Chair.
To compound the problem, Mexican chair cartels are using their ill-gotten gains to buy off our politicians. I know it sounds wacky, but I think we should consider legalizing chair and diverting enforcement funds to treatment.
So meditation is a suicidal practice, that's what I thought.
The opening pages of "1984" reveal mandatory exercise is coming. That damn book reads like a step by step plan being followed, except no nukes….yet
We have changed some of our desk heights and purchased directors chairs. Most stand and seem to be far more productive. IT not impossible to answer a phone work on a computer or eat lunch standing. Get off your butts.
A saddle is just another variety of chair. You're fooling no one with this blatant hypocrisy! If PETA doesn't have a chapter devoted entirely to eliminating saddles in our lifetime, it's time we started one!
Disclaimer: No animals were harmed or abused in the production of this post.
We needed "new research" to be able to know this?
How about: "Americans continue to become more and more stupid as they depend on experts to run their lives for them instead of relying on common sense."
We are not aloud to smoke in my place of work,so I have to get up and about 25 times a day. So that makes me the healthiest smoker in the whole building.
The Sturgeon Generalissemo has determined that LIVING can be hazardous to your health. Health-conscious citizens have therefore decided to STOP living. Future suggestions will be forthcoming from the EXPERTS.
Where is former Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders when we could so desperately need a calm voice of reason in this highly volatile and divisive debate? She was so effective in garnering bi-partisan support for "teaching the children to masturbate." So sad.
Genius is often unappreciated in its own time.
Don't leak this information to anyone in a wheelchair. My great great great great grandma might die from sitting before her 98th birthday this August.
I refuse to take this report sitting down. Who else wants to take a stand?
If you don't stand for something, you'll sit still for anything.
I'm tempted to walk away from this chair thing in disgust, but if you're willing to take a stand, I'll support you if you want to run for a seat in congress.
Sure, run for Congress, Static, but please don't be a weiner about this.
I'm gonna take a seat and have a smoke.
Last I heard, Weiner declined to resign in favor of remaining a member in good standing.
That sounds kinda crazy when you think about it.
Should be interesting to see how it all works out.
This article may not be political and It may not be a political issue today but rest assured it will be. Legislation will be drafted to address the "public welfare" regarding this.
Relax everyone1 In just a few years they will find sitting is healthy. Until then I guess we are supposed to stand all day like horses and cows while grazing on the fruits and veggies (if they don't give us e coli) that we are told we must eat in greater quantities (until they discover fruits and veggies aren't good for us either). I have pretty much given up listening to all of this. I eat and drink anything I want in moderation, walk frequently, take my vitamins. Other than that, let the chips fall where they may. I'm not going to live forever and I accept that. I am tired of being constantly warned that everything I do, eat, and drink that is pleasurable is bad for me.
Let's see. Don't smoke, don"t drink anything other than water, chocolate's off-limits, and eggs, and cheese. At some point, you just have to dig in your heels, and enjoy that plate of Eggs Benedict. No, not every morning, but once a month won't kill you
I can hardly wait for the report on second hand sitting.
Id be interested to see if stimulus money paid for the study because it sure does seem to favor Michelle's "Lets Move" campaign and Barry's "get off my back about smoking" initiatives…logically, the study merely promotes common sense, so why else look into it without political motives
This is why I sit AND smoke. The two negatives cancel each other out! 🙂
Here's a link to a Sit/Stand desk. They're a must have. http://www.csnstores.com/7-190-105-Maple-Cherry-Espresso-JJP1051.html
I just sat down for a smoke.
It's a barkalounger, but yeah, my 106 ln ass likes it. Get over your issues with lounge chairs. Jeez . . .
meant 106 pound ass and barcalounger, but anyway . . .
Stop being a NANNY STATE!!!! WE DO NOT WANT IT!!!!
I have major back problems, I can stand about 15 minutes then I have to sit! Stop worrying about me!
Welcome to the USSA / Nanny / Police State!
My mother just turned 96, with no end in sight, & she's been sitting in her recliner for over 40 years. Her mother passed at 86 & had been sitting in her rocking chair for about the same length of time. Genetics.
Wasn't the die thing supposed to happen roughly a month ago?
Obama should sit down and relax when he smokes.
Does that mean all these government bureaucRATS are going to drop dead soon?
Now I have a reason to take a cigarette break
If we're serious about this, we'll demand a standing committee in Congress with an effective chairman.
THe government does NOT want people to stop buying tobacco. It just wants to collaborate with the drug company that sells nicotine replacement products to their mutual benefit. The government says smoking is so bad that it justified the higher taxes. But you will notice that no state, nor the Feds are suggesting banning the selling. So, it must be concluded that smoking at home around the kiddies is alright, but smoking in a bar is not. You might want to look up how much your state is getting in tobacco taxes. And then add the Federal tax to that. Johnson and Johnson sells Nicoderm, Nicorette, Nicotrol, Nicoderm CQ, and Commit Lozenges. They, and their "philanthropic arm" fund all this ban propaganda, and California grant spongers get the lion's share! J&J's new "war" on obesity started after they bought Splenda, and passed a bunch of smoking bans. J&J wanted to fatten everybody up before they announced that obesity now causes cancer and heart attacks.
We need to ban all sitting in public places to prevent second hand sitting. Lets burn all the chairs! A good old fashioned chair buring!
What about all the varicose veins, foot problems and poor circulation of those who stand all day?
I saw this coming years ago and learned to hang from the ceiling like a bat. It's the way to go if you care anything about your health.
Amazing coincidences. Unless I dreamed it, we started developing catastrophic holes in the ozone layer around the time that the Dupont patent on old bad freon was set to expire. Good thing we banned that nasty stuff and started using the new safe refrigerant they had ready for us. We have so many people in high places looking out for our well-being. We have much to be grateful for.
I can see it now, chair tax, chair czar, sitting fees and taxes, chair swat teams breaking down the door of grandmothers for spending their retirement years in a chair. Picture of Whistler's mother in a rocking chair becoming contraband and illegal to show in or within 50 miles of a school. In general hard working US citizens who finance the success of the word being punished and fined for sitting around after working 8-12 hour days and giving up all vacations and recreational activities to pay all their other fines and fees and taxes. Of course illegal's get a free pass and in addition recliners under a US tax financed chair stimulus program. And all of course congress and their "friends" will get waivers. etc, etc etc!!!
No civilized society would fail to implement reasonable lumbar support as part of the social safety net for the less fortunate among us. You know…the ones who failed to win life's lottery? lumbar support is the right of every human being with the minor exception of working taxpayers. It is more or less a given that the backbone of society does not require lumbar support. It's really absurd when you think about it. Isn't it?
So how long is an 'extended' period of time? Wish they'd say……
A morbidly obese Ohio man fused himself to a chair he had been sitting in for two years. I'm guessing that might qualify for an extended period. A$$ and fabric as one. A truly unique SITuation.
Now, progressives have good reason to outlaw sitting in restaurants, businesses, government buildings, parks, hotels, and especially San Francisco and New York's Central Park.
"HealthWatch: Sitting Vs. Smoking
June 8, 2011 9:59 PM
Smoking cigarettes is the cause of so much preventable, deadly disease. But now new research shows sitting for long stretches of time may be just as dangerous."
Kpix Television Channel 5
855 Battery Street
(between Broadway St & Pacific Ave)
San Francisco, CA 94111
Dear KPIX,
I don't mind at all seeing your news program highlight the dangers of prolonged sitting. But the comparison to smoking is absurd.
I appreciate that you need provocative leads to keep people's attention. But you have implied that sitting and smoking are equivalent health detriments, and this is not the case; sitting is not a known carcinogen.
Please be more careful. You owe it to the community that relies on you for information.
Carol Denney
1970 San Pablo Avenue #4
Berkeley, CA 94702
Nice to see YOU are brainwashed about smoking.. lol
Diseases are in your genes, a non smoker can get so called "smoking illnesses" so that theory is blown again.
Passive smoking is the biggest lie of the 21st century.
Wowthats kinda crazy when you think about it.
I have always suspected that adjustable desks, that would allow you to sit for short periods of time and easily raise up to standing height made a lot of sense. The problem has always been the cost. But the prices have come down A LOT. The last time I checked, you could get a fully electric, easily adjustable desk for $599.00. Here's a link:
I'm sorry but I never understood the "Get your heart pumping because its MUCH better for you" mentality.. Sure I believe in exercising, but in my opinion working your body over like that can't be quite as good as everyone thinks.. Consider this.. If a car salesman came up to you and said "Make sure you rev the engine to redline at least 1 hour a day" would you believe its a good idea?
I'm really glad that you provided the link at the end of your article so I could go read the actual research. It doesn't say what your article says it does.
You talk about people sitting at work. The article specifically addresses "nonoccupational sitting behavior," and "screen-based entertainment." In other words, it's a study of how people spend their leisure hours, not their work hours.
My God, another stupid Liberal study to try and tell everyone how to live and a study to keep a bunch of Liberals employed! Tell you what, but I'll sit as much as I want; ride my mountain bike as much as I want; drink as much coffee as I want; fire as many bullets through my weapons as I want; drive however many miles I want; and smoke if I desire to! Is it 2012 yet?
Saying that smoking kills, is only theory. I don't smoke, but I sure love the smell of a cigar and cigarette now and then. Why isn't smoking a joint listed here? One joint is equivalent to smoking 20 cigarettes and pot is chock full of mercury. So idiots who smoke pot most certainly sit alot, so will the combination kill you sooner? Michelle Obama says eating fast food will kill you, but she eats like a horse and most of it is junk food. Unbelievable!
To maintain health you must have adequate amounts of exercise, rest and nutrition.
But to say that an hour of cardio every day doesn't negates the effects of your desk job, is simply not true.
I would love for the people who wrote this article to explain my case. I served a 22 year career in the U.S. military. I ate a healthy diet, kept my weight inside the parameters, exercised regulary and had all of my lab results inside the norms. After the military I continued to excerised regualrly and maintained the same habits as when I was in service, never smoked a day in my life, and drank only on occasion, maybe a beer or glass of wine with dinner. Then two years after retirement from the Army, I began having spells of fatigue. Blood tests revealed that I had acute Myeloid Leukemia. Yep that healthy living did me a lot of good…didn't it?
From American College of Cardiology report :
"Although some evidence suggests that prolonged sitting is linked to CVD risk factor development regardless of physical activity participation, studies with hard outcomes are scarce."
So once again the media sells us half baked unproven theories as "Fact".
The Galaxy is exapnding, we need to deploy graviton generators to hold the celestial bodies in position and prevent further expansion, if we don't, in two maybe three billion years interplanetary travel sill be impossible, even with Warp Drive.
7 hours.???…breaks???…..how about 10 hours….no breaks….except one or two bathroom visits…..eat lunch while working at a desk….SITTING……..ahhh the glorious life of WALL STREET……..and NO, I do not make millions….not even CLOSE!!! I do eat reasonably well and run, bike, walk etc…..and feel really good for 46 years old….well, with the exception of the achy joints and occasional muscle tweaks. Peace 🙂
Time to outlaw chairs.
I suppose they are going to take away wheel chairs then make the disabled and smokers wear helium balloons.
It's safe to smoke as long as you float.
No, Hydrogen ballons that way they can go out with a bang.
I am in a wheelchair, but I have a device that allows me to stand up. I stand approximately two hours a day. You really appreciate standing when it's taken away from you
So we should only smoke while standing? Or lying down?
WOW! This has gone all over the place. This article is explaining what we all already know. If we don't take care of our self we will die fat. The fact is that at one point we will die. But the point of this article to be better interpreted is, if we eat right, and not sit for so long periods of time, we may live life a little healthier. We all may not like the new health law, but others do. I don't agree that we have to pay for others health insurance, unless it is my family, but on the other hand I am glad that people can no longer be denied insurance due to pre-existing conditions.
If we would take the energy we all used to respond to this article and use it to truly research our political prospects or candidates without excluding candidates because of their political party association, we would probably end up with a better government. We may complain about our government, politicians, and the laws they create, but remember one thing, it is we the people who vote for them and hire them to work for us or against us. In reference to the big Corporations and their lobbies who corrupt our government into making the wrong decisions, well we may also be at fault for this, as the main consumers of the products and services they provide. Remember we the consumer have made them this powerful, but go ahead and continue to complaint about our government, sit at your chairs and type away on and show your anger about our government, and the laws created on sites or articles like this one. The truth is we will never fix it this way. Spend your time writing to your government, local, State, and Federal and let them know your disappointments. If this was done collectively they will listen.
can u get lung cancer from sitting too much?
Ban Cigarettes! Tobacco is BAD, but POT? POT's okay.
Limosine Liberals, want US to drive toy cars, to save the planet!
But they ride their LIMOS, Smoke pot, and have SEX in the back, and burn lots of Gas! They want US to Save the Planet so they can HAVE IT ALL…Saving the Planet means PAY MORE TAXES to the ELITE.
How do this study account for the millions of people sitting around in nursing homes?
So San Francisco will likely be the first city to require waning labels on all public sats "Warning sitting can be dangerous to your health."
How will they deal with "Second hand sitting" Are pay sitting meters in public places far behind.
birth is the single biggest cause of death. chew on that for a while, stupid pukes.
in the interests of fairness … perhaps sitting, for over a certain number hours per day should be taxed … rather like us, pariah smokers … or rather not like the obese, who are not taxed … lets also tax illegal drugs, heaven and hell forbid, … lets be nuts and legislate and tax fairly ::.
I agree. That is why every hour I get out of my chair, walk down 4 flights of stairs, step outside and have a cigarette
I never stand when I can sit, and I never sit when I can lay down.
Winston Churchill
So I should smoke standing up?
If exercise is healthy, why have several pro athletes died from heart attacks and some have died on the field of play whiel engaging in exercise. Pete Maravich died while playing a game of Basketball. Basketball player Reggie Lewis died of heart attack during a pregame practice. But if they must have a case of an athlete dying while bot sitting and in the performance of their sport, there is always Frank Hayes, a jockey who died from a heart attack while riding his horse Sweet Kiss to victory at Belmont Park.
I beleive as Redd Foxx once said,
"One of these days you'll feel like a damned fool laying in the hospital dying from nothing."
I plan to sit a lot, in my recliner. If Dr. Mulvihill, M.D. should ever come visit my home I'll hide all that chairs so she can stand for the duration of her visit.
Hmmm.. Who do you think has more knee and back pain after 10 years? The cashier who stands all day or the computer programmer who sits down to work 12 hours a day?
A nice comfortable chair is the best medicine. Where is it written if you sit down all day youre instantly fat? I am not fat at all, though I do consume a lot of diet soda!!!
The obvious compromise between standing and sitting is resting on your knees.
…Or just get a better chair
Pass a law…………local, state or federal. That will solve it.
Like this one –
I have one and can sit for hours without ill-effect. But getting up periodically is always advisable.
Try again
I have personal experience to conform this report. After thirty years with well known defense company, I retired last year. Most of my working day was sitting at a desk in front of a computer. Even though I walked 45 to 60 minutes a day during the work day, I suffered from chronic back pain, swollen ankles, facial nerve tremors and pain in both arms from keyboard activities. Within 2 months after retiring, all of these symptoms were gone and my blood pressure has dropped also.
I'm amazed at how everything turns political. All I see here are a bunch of bitter, sarcastic, angry, immature, closed-minded people. As for the article, just image our caveman ancestors sitting and staring at a rock for eight ours a day. It's obviously not normal and not what our bodies are adapted to do. It's the same reasoning that shows you that constant overeating and staying up very late all the time are unhealthy. C'mon it's obvious…
So now we can't sitdown anymore.
Is there anything that isn't going to kill me
In that case, we need to outlaw sitting in all resturaunts,public places and even in your home if there are minors living there who might be negatively impacted by your self-destructive behaviour. Anyone sitting on their job should immediately be fired before they have a health crisis and blame the company for negligence in not enforcing "no sitting" local,state and federal ordinances.
Fact: Over 1.7 million people die from diseases related to sitting every day worldwide.
In the light of such a serious threat to our health and the huge cost to our health system, it is necessary that all chairs and sofas come with a warning label that extended sitting is dangerous to your health and that they not be sold to any person under 18th years of age. In addition, a Federal Bureau of Sitting should be created and given extreme regulatory powers and funded with one trillion dollars and that schools be declared "Chair Free Zones," with a zero tolerance policy for children caught sitting. I am only kidding, but some stupid liberal will probably take me serious. Are you listening, Michelle O.?
Bah Humbug, so another stupid highly paid study telling us not to sit, funny I can remember another study that said that too much standing was not good for you, and at that time I was doing warehouse work where I had to stand for hours on end, so now I work in IT and sit in front of a monitor for most of the day,
well here's my bottom line, we're all going to die anyway so you might as well try to enjoy life inspire of what all these so called experts say, end.
I want to do a study too. Can I have a grant for a few million $$$??? I promise I'll come up with something really controversial that will make a nice press piece. It'll probably be pretty stupid too, but as long as I have the money in advance, no problem.
Ahhhhh yes.. more leftist brainwashing to control our lives.
Makes me now wonder if smoking is even all that bad when they make garbage up like this.
Next up "No sitting at work.. it will cost us money on our insurance premiums."
Smoking is bad…..passive smoking isn't
C'mon people. This is not a liberal or conservative issue (For the record I am a conservative). It is common sense that being sedentary leads to being fat which in turn leads to being dead. DUH! The part I hate about this whole thing (the real liberal part) is that my tac dollars went to fund a study to tell us us that being inactive is bad for us. As I stated this is common sense and if you don't have enough to know this then you may as well get fat and die. No big loss.
There is NASA an agency noted for flinging individuals into space at out of this world bloated bureaucratic prices. But now leaving the Earth has been made affordable through a free enterprise funded program called ASSA.
Assa, in its lack of tax payer funding and cost effective zeal, ignores rocketry and Earth's orbit altogether and uses widely available sitting chairs to send off the common into the vast and widely unexplored Astral Plane.
Shawn Clark. You want someone to tell you what to do? Sit down and shut up.
Now you fat conservatives Limbaugh types SHOULD get up off your lazy butts and move. You'll be the first to complain about the costs of healthcare while you're reaching for your sixth piece of cheesecake. Oh but don't listen to anything science has to say. If "Thou shalt not sit all day" was a commandment you'd all be Olympic athletes.
From the study link
"Two hundred fifteen CVD events and 325 any-cause deaths occurred during 19,364 follow-up person-years. The covariable (age, sex, ethnicity, obesity, smoking, social class, long-standing illness, marital status, diabetes, hypertension)-adjusted hazard ratio (HR) for all-cause mortality was 1.52 (95% confidence interval [CI]: 1.06 to 2.16) and for CVD events was 2.30 (95% CI: 1.33 to 3.96) for participants engaging in ≥4 h/day of screen time relative to <2 h/day. Adjusting for physical activity attenuated these associations only slightly (all-cause mortality: HR: 1.48, 95% CI: 1.04 to 2.13; CVD events: HR: 2.25, 95% CI: 1.30 to 3.89). Exclusion of participants with CVD events in the first 2 years of follow-up and previous cancer registrations did not change these results appreciably. Approximately 25% of the association between screen time and CVD events was explained collectively by C-reactive protein, body mass index, and high-density lipoprotein cholesterol."
So the hazard ratio for cardiovascular disease events related to <=4 hrs a day of "screen time" was 2.30% and that's almost equivalent to CV risk from smoking? Either the this article is completely over-reacting, or smoking isn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be.
I get up every hour and walk 10min. I can afford to have a home business. I run a mile 3 times a week. Eat healthy, bmi is 21, and never smoked. I guess I'll live to 100?
OMG! How does research information, meant to inform people, turn into a political bashing of the party you do not belong to? I must say that, in this regard, the Republicans seem very nasty. This information is being put out there to educate you….other people smoking costs me money. People with poor health costs me money. Yes, not all people who smoke die young – be real, 90% DO have health complications. True, some atheletes drop dead while exercising – about .5%….the rest benefit from it. If you do not like this information, don't pay attention. Sit around, smoke cigarettes, and die young. Fortunately, we will in a free country. I just prefer not to pay for the stupidity of other people. Martha N. Fitzsimmons, MD, PhD, independent voter
Wow, the same people who are not very active also sit a lot during that inactivity. What news! How scientific!
Sitting isn't the only way to be inactive, you know. I suppose if these people were laying down for 8 hours a day their bodies wouldn't have the same metabolic changes? This story is a complete waste of time. Unless, however, you're a researcher who has mastered the technique of making old points seem new and interesting so that people will give you research grants, and so that you can give the journalists something to write into a story people will click on (and look at the ads which accompany it).
Judging by many of the face-palm worthy comments, it's no wonder we're a country failing not only in personal health but scientific endeavors as well. As a healthcare provider, all I can do is roll my eyes and sigh…
The same logic applies to fat people as smokers. It's time for fatties to pay a price for their bad habits, too.
Dr. Coven must not forget those who can't walk but must be confined to a wheelchair from illness, birth defects, and accidents. And he must also be remembered that people can't stand for long periods of time without moving First of all, there is one person who is still alive and he suffers from ALS and has been confined to a wheelchair, which means he have no choice but to sit for a long time. It is unrealistic for Dr. Coven to ignore the fact that there are those who can't walk and who must sit in a wheelchair. How can he explain to them that they must exercise or face death when they can't do some of the things they probably used to do when they could once walk. So why is he is taking a devil's stance on siting when in fact sitting is always unavoidable for those who can't stand or walk? What kind of message is this ignorant doctor is giving to those people who have these disabilities?
Sitting is just as dangerous for ones health, a lot of hairstylists who do braids or hair extensions or removal of dreadlocks can attest to the stress over long periods of time. Despite the fact that their stomach muscles get weaker so does their backs.
That is why stretching is so important or walking for those who have jobs that require long periods of sitting.
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The Plaintiffs challenge the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act based on its inclusion of the individual health insurance mandate, stating that Congress exceeds its authority by controlling the budgetary process and legislative agendas of the plaintiff states, thereby forcing them to assume sole responsibility of exorbitant costs of the new Act. Plaintiffs claim the federal government has no authority under the Commerce Clause on the Taxing and Spending Clause in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. The Complaint cites sections 2 and 9 of Article I, and states that the federal government cannot use the mandate as a means to impose a direct tax. Also, the Plaintiffs argue that the PPACA violates the Tenth Amendment, noting that a mandate that forces individuals to either have health insurance coverage or pay a penalty is unconstitutional. Because the Plaintiffs in this case are states, they are especially concerned with the top-down unfunded mandates that impose increased conditions on states participating in federal programs from which withdrawal is not practical, rather than to engage in voluntary federal-state partnerships. States where Medicare is already stretching the annual budget, such as Florida, simply cannot afford the increased costs attributable to the new requirements imposed by PPACA .
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In this new post on Ben Ramsey's blog today, he shares his experiences with SimpleXML, mentioning specifically some of the undocumented functions that he's noticed.
I was very excited today while glancing through the code in ext/simplexml/simplexml.c to find some, as of yet, undocumented methods in PHP's SimpleXMLElement class. This discovery came after I've spent several hours over the last couple of nights banging my head against the desk to figure out a way to create a class that extends SimpleXMLElement and adds a new method for adding a child, which would have to use DOM in order to work—or so I thought.
Of course, it's wasn't as easy as it seemed, and Ben soon found some of the limitations of the SimpleXML library. Of course, he did manage to find a way to add new children to the document you're working with (something that normally would have required the intervention of the DOM functionality). Check out the post for a code example.


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what does the /c DIR represent in the code below
i know what the %comspec% is but not the rest
what i need to do is run a python file from an HTML page
for a demonstration for collage
Run a DOS Command From an HTML Page
This is achieved by using the Windows Script Host. First, create an instance
of the object WScript.Shell. Then, use its Run method to execute the DOS
command. For example, say your HTML page has a button that will run the DIR
command when clicked. The onclick jscript function would look something like
function btnDIR_onclick()
var WshShell = new ActiveXObject("WScript.Shell");
WshShell.Run("%comspec% /c DIR");
The %comspec% string in the argument for Run() specifies the path and file
name of the command interpreter, Cmd.exe.


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Johnny Foreigner return with their third album proper, Johnny Foreigner vs. Everything, released through Alcopop! on November 7th. Guitarist and singer Alexei talks DiS through their latest offering...
"Some technical stuff cos I know people like that sort of thing. Mostly everything was recorded by Dominique James onto his shiny mac. I don't know what programme so I'd guess itunes or garage band. We tracked drums and guitars and other loud things at our studio in digbeth. We're not allowed to tell you the name for some shady reason, so you can call it candyland. After we were a few songs in, we started extra sessions adding vocals and mixing in Dom's spare room at his sweet parents house. As all this is going on, we're still writing stuff and inundating him daily with rehearsal demos. We took from February 'til August. We had two chunks of tour in the middle, which was ace cos it gave us a chance to leave things and come back with fresh ears. We used too many (borrowed) amp combos to remember. We methodically re-amped all the bass and most of the guitars. That means, we recorded straight into the machine, and played them back through amps and rerecorded them. This means, as soon as you stop being freaked out that your amp is playing your parts without you, you have your hands free to mess around with settings and different amp/speaker combinations. In practice this is more boring than it sounds, especially at 5am in the morning when you have to give Stagecoach their bassman back at 12. Me and Junior use cooledit and fruityloops, they're both super out of date amateur mixing and sequencing programs respectively, but childishly simply to use. and a big step up from our previous practice of humming into a camera phone.
1. if i'm the most famous boy you've fucked then honey yr in trouble
One of the last songs we recorded, but in my head this was always going to be the introduction. There's this couple, old friends whose lives I unwittingly starting chronicling in choose yr side and dark harbourzz, this song is bitter reaction from their social circle + last night of holiday desperation + the gerling trick of shouting names of cities you've been to over the chorus.
2. with who who and what I've got
We always meant for this to be a Serious Rock Song, but were so taken by peach's reconstruction that we stole a bunch of ideas he added to his version. As much as I ever discuss my personal life on the internet, there's two totally emo events that lyrically underpin the record and this picks up in the aftermath of the first. Oh, and I changed some of the words in south africa cos it seemed wrong to be in cape town and singing about stony beaches
3. 200x
Jun made most of this on fruityloops, and it sat on hard drives and got fiddled with for a few hours each week. The on-off guitar comes from a special technique called "pressing random button when Dom leaves the room". Some of the stuff in the song actually happened on Christmas eve, I plead artistic license. This song is like, background detail to a little subplot that charts the breakup of a couple of friends.
4. meth ditto, david ginholder, beer grylhss, etc
Americana song. The outro is me railing against girls (and its mostly girls, but only cos in this industry guys are sluttier) who think that just cos they've blagged a backstage sticky and someone else's drink tokens means they're involved in the Music Business, and are therefore excluded from my gin-fuelled rants of how you can only truly understand this industry when yr stranded on a trailer park 22 hours drive from tomorrows show, with a van with a massive hole in the roof, walking an unmarked woodland trail and genuinely scared you'll get savaged by a fucking wild bear.
5. johnny foreigner vs you
In which a bunch of traditional long distance arguments erupt in hamburg. Realistically it could be any of three foreign cities, but there's nothing like the reeperbahn for culture, alienation and despair. We abandoned the cursed version of this cos i wanted a song like the next life by suede, so we broke into Dom's old school to use a proper grand piano
7. electricity vs the dead
Cos it was musically kinda normal for us, this song is deliberately written 50 years in future, after some generic post apocalyptic event fucks shit up. You join us as we approach what's left of Birmingham after months on the road home. The title refers a conversation on whether we should even go home at all; a potential electricity supply is a luxury, but there'll probably be a lot of bodies to remove. You're wondering why I think like this and I'm wondering if i should broaden my taste in comic books. I even made a Google map of what PA Birmingham would be like. You can't see it.
8. jess, you got yr song, so leave
This isn't Jess's song, mind. That was feeling this by Blink 182. Cos no matter how important yr self inflicted drunken OTT social dramas get, they can always wait until after this song comes on stupid loud thru the shit pa at yr local midweek indie club. and even after that, I still don't really want to be dragged into it when I'm outside having a quiet smoke, unless you accept that I'll write a song that basically says, yr lovely but you should probably stop whining. The Dexys horns at the start of the second verse is my proudest moment as a brass arranger, and forgetting about (and having to recreate in melodyne) the chorus harmonies my least.
9. supermorning
I had so little to do with this song. Jun made it on fruityloops. Dom made him play some real drums underneath, I chopped about 3 minutes from it. the vocals and bassline were me and Kels homework one night. I love how much the start of it sounds like ava adora, cos Jun doesn't share me and Kels smashing pumpkins obsession. Hangovers like medals - is paraphrasing this awesome american/japanese radio presenter we met in Tokyo. I feel shitty for forgetting his name. Mike, maybe? Anyway, he looked like Craig Finn and spoke like Lester Bangs, I hope our paths cross again soon
10. what drummers get
The last few chords are taken from a song by a band I was in millions of years ago with Tom and Pete from calories. Waiting to see if they notice. I'm also semi positive we've ripped the bridge off something, but totally don't remember what. Paul McCartney said the same thing about the whole of "yesterday" which proves I'm at least 70% more original a songwriter. Lyrically this is the bitchy sister streak of with who. If this was a relationship movie, this would be the, o I don't believe you've mentioned your long term boyfriend before moment. I read a review which stated this was a backlash against drummer jokes. That would have been far more noble.
11. new street, you can take it
This was the only surviving drum track from our first album session, recorded at 3 in the morning. The sssssh noise in the background is the rain on the roof of our warehouse conversion studio. We didn't plan out the ending much; just kept piling extra things on and let Dom sort out the mess, BSS style. The extra voices belong to pandas and people. Most of the albums gang vocals come from a night with stagecoach and a few friends, but by this point everyone was too drunk not to break into 80s harmonies. This is the beginning of the end for him and her from 200x
13. (don't) show us your fangs
Jun made the bulk of this from a bunch of acoustic samples at different speeds. We spent aaages figuring out the right tempo/pitch and how to transfer it all to protools. Is about these two kids we met on tour in Europe. Won't embarrass them by naming. He runs shows in this tiny playmobil village pub and is madly in love with Her, She works the bar and lives upstairs and kinda thinks He might be worth it if it weren't for uni and life and so forth. I clearly stumble around behind them taking notes like a freak.
14. you vs everything
A pick-yrself-up song. for me as much as anyone else. "that shit hurts" is shamelessly stolen from "2nd gun" by volcano i'm still excited!!! If you know the record im talking about, I love you. There's so much going on in this. The trombone is played by our friend Dr Nick, we grabbed a couple of days from his real job as a robot maker. The slow creeping parts in the bridge were Doms idea, and the handclaps another thing pandas and people added after we were too drunk to on gang night.
15. doesn't believe in angels
Is a sister song to robert scargil, and I recorded it at the same time last year in the pub my girlfriend was living/working in. I gave all the instrument tracks to dom and he cleaned the mix up loads, which is why it sounds so much better. The bridge on this is the same as the chorus on that, and vice versa. Like twins who want to be individual but the parents keep buying them matching outfits. This is the grisily drawn out inevitable conclusion to new street.
16. a) the swell
This is all the samples we got from our blog invite, playing all at once. the first and most prominent is by our first american friend Jay, taken from a song by his old band. I think its beautiful:
You got yourself a whole new life and all i've got is half this old one. In a whisper disguised as a snowflake, I wish to be remembered to you in a whisper, like a snowflake. I wish to be remembered to you. Beat the living cities out of me and spoilt my progress and let me be. This year its taxes and i can see its going to be a long one. You've got a face for this and drawers for eyes. You slipped thru our last kiss, and i can see its going to be a long one. she's beginning to take on water and she's beginning on this years taxes. She's beginning to listen to what i tell her. She's picking up and going backwards to the beginning. She is hunting for the right words in white dresses like i heard you say it the first time. Like i got no reason to be kind now but it ate a hole in my heart and now yr leaning over to turn the radio up. I stay out on your estate house. This year its texas. She's hunting for the right words but i dont want to know.
b) like neverwhere
Was originally called "like shoreditch for the dead", which is how i once overheard someone describing the result of digbeth and it's regeneration. The main riff is me trying to play in first album dana style. An awkward social venn diagram of a flatwaming, of people who got out the city and came back, people who try to get out and fail, and people who don't see the point in leaving at all. this party was pretty much the centre where all the circles overlap. Also, some of those people have been on ket for a week solid. So that's the other big melodramatic emo clusterfuck of a night that's like, the closing cgi setpiece in my strained mental map analogy of the record as a movie.
17. alternate timelines piling up
and his is the end credits song. A coda to the whole tragedy. The drumbeat is the metronome beat that dom programmed as a guide, it sounded like the little drums from 1979 and we hadn't stolen anything from SP for at least 2 days. The ghost of what if is vomiting over the whole record until this point where it pretty much comes to live in the beachhouse i will one day buy for me and my awesome girlfriend as a thankyou for putting up with me being married to a band, whilst her friends all find boys with stable jobs and housefunds (EVEN THO THEY STILL SECRETLY DREAM OF DOING THIS."
Johnny Foreigner vs. Everything is out today on Alcopop! Records.


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In 1997, Timothy McGee pitched an animated TV series, "The Music Factory of the 90′s," to The Cartoon Network. McGee's show, set in Atlanta, centered on Tony "The Play Maker" Rich, a wealthy corporate attorney who leaves his law firm to become a music producer. The show would feature animated versions of well-known guest musicians. Each episode would include a musical performance, and at the end of the episode the guests would appear in their live-action state. The show would deal with serious issues such as racism and violence, and it aimed to teach viewers lessons about the music industry and life. The Cartoon Network rejected "The Music Factory of the 90′s" because it did not meet the network's programming needs at the time.
Nearly ten years later, The Cartoon Network debuted "Class of 3000," an animated series co-created and co-produced by Andre "Andre 3000″ Benjamin, best known as one-half of the hip-hop duo Outkast. This show was also set in Atlanta. It focused on Sunny Bridges, a musical superstar who returned to Atlanta to teach, and his students at a performing arts school. Sunny displayed supernatural abilities and lived in a magical house in the woods. Benjamin provided the voice of Sunny, and each episode included his original music. According to the complaint, "Class of 3000″ taught viewers lessons, and the plan was for animated versions of real artists to appear on the show.
In May 2008, "Class of 3000″ concluded its second and final season. Shortly following, McGee brought suit against Benjamin, The Cartoon Network, and its parent company, Turner Broadcasting Systems, Inc., alleging copyright infringement and other claims.
The court granted the motion to dismiss of The Cartoon Network and TBS, the only defendants that McGee served, because McGee was unable to show probative similarity between "The Music Factory of the 90′s" and "Class of 3000." McGee v. Benjamin 3000, 102 U.S.P.Q.2d 1299 (D. Mass. March 20, 2012).
To demonstrate copyright infringement a plaintiff must establish (1) ownership of a valid copyright, and (2) copying of constituent elements of the work that are original. There was no dispute McGee satisfied the first element. He owned a copyright registration for a treatment of "The Music Factory of the 90′s" and related materials. However, McGee could not demonstrate actionable copying.
In the First Circuit, establishing copying involves two steps. First, the plaintiff must show that the defendant "actually copied the work as a factual matter," either through direct evidence or through indirect evidence of access and probative similarity. In comparing the works to determine similarity, only protectible elements are relevant; the court must ignore "unprotected ideas or unoriginal expressions." Second, if court finds probative similarity, then it considers substantial similarity. "Two works are substantially similar if a reasonable, ordinary observer, upon examination of the two works would conclude that the defendant unlawfully appropriate the plaintiff's protectable expression."
The court found McGee's claims insufficient with respect to probative similarity. McGee's vague references to similarities in "location, characters, content, format, and dramatis personnae" were not enough. The only specific similarities, the court explained, were that both shows take place in Atlanta; both shows involve the music industry; and both shows involve a character who left his job to try something new. But McGee does not have the exclusive right to any of these elements.
McGee's argument regarding probative similarity runs up against several hurdles often encountered by those who seek to enforce a copyright in a treatment for a television show, movie, or theatrical performance. Most notably, there are very few elements of the Music Factory treatment that are original; most of the alleged similarities are noncopyrightable "basic concepts and ideas" or "stock scenes and characters."
Because ideas are not protected by copyright, whether or not the defendants copied McGee's ideas was irrelevant. Further, under the scenes a faire doctrine, copyright generally does not protect "plots, subplots or themes" insofar as they are "for all practical purposes indispensable, or at least customary, in the treatment of a given subject matter." For example, "the plot device of a protagonist leaving one profession to embark on an unrelated profession with little experience but considerable passion is a familiar one."
Likewise, copyright does not protect stock characters. The court found that several characters in the parties' shows, such as young musicians and a tough executive, were largely stock characters. Meanwhile, the shows' main characters – Sunny and The Play Maker – were "in certain fundamental senses … almost polar opposites."
Therefore, McGee's copyright claim failed based on the absence of probative similarity. The court added that McGee also could not establish substantial similarity. In that regard, it pointed to additional differences in "format and tone," and added that the themes of the two shows were in conflict. While "The Music Factory of the 90′s" celebrated the pursuit of money and fame, "Class of 3000″ emphasized the love of music and creativity.
McGee reflects the difficulty in establishing copying infringement in this context. Copyright owners must beware that basic concepts and ideas are not protectable, nor are routine storylines or stock characters. Superficial similarities between creative works are often not actionable.


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Blue Star brings back Weber, hopes to unfreeze accounts
Blue Star Media Group, of Stamford, has hired a former executive as a consultant to lead the financially troubled radio programmer. The move follows the departure of Blue Star's chief executive officer, Michael Metter, who left last week amid allegations of securities fraud at another company.
Jeff Weber, chairman of the Greenwich Chamber of Commerce, is rejoining the privately held company from which he resigned in December 2011, filling Metter's spots as CEO and president. Metter, who will be pursuing other interests, according to a news release, will stay on as a director "in name only," court documents show.
"What a great opportunity to return to work with our exceptional staff and the fine content we provide our more than 1,000 affiliates and the outstanding programs our owned stations air for their listeners," Weber said in an email.
Blue Star and its affiliated companies, including radio station WGCH in Greenwich, Business TalkRadio Network and the Lifestyle Talkradio Network, provide original programming across the country.
Metter was indicted on criminal charges in 2010 related to his tenure as CEO of Spongetech Delivery Systems, whose stock was allegedly manipulated in a scheme commonly referred to as a "pump and dump."
In such a scheme, executives or other shareholders inflate the company's stock price through public statements or other means and then sell the shares for a profit, leaving new investors holding shares that are worth substantially less than what they paid for them. In the case of Spongetech, the government claims executives made up fictitious orders for the company.
Blue Star was drawn into the controversy because it received $5 million loan from the proceeds of the alleged Spongetech fraud, according to court documents. As a result, Blue Star and BusinessTalkRadio were named as relief defendants in the federal case and have had their bank accounts frozen. The company is currently accessing funds through temporary court orders.
The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission has also filed a civil action against Metter.
Metter's attorney was not immediately available for comment on the SEC case Wednesday.
Blue Star hopes the hiring of Weber will give it better access to its funds.
Attorney Brett D. Fallon, of the Delaware-based firm Morris James, filed a stipulation -- which gained agreement by the SEC -- to unfreeze the company's assets on the same day Weber's hiring was announced. Metter will no longer have access to Blue Star accounts.
"BTR now finds itself in an extremely critical situation and urgently needs to be able to pay certain of its debts as they become due, including payroll," Fallon said in a letter to the judge in the case.
The State Labor Department hasn't received any complaints about pay, according to a spokesman.
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Correction: In an earlier version of this story, the location of Blue Star's headquarters was incorrectly stated.


text: Don't like surprises in your hamburgers? New research may help ensure that you don't get a serving of horse meat when you buy beef. Using Raman spectroscopy, a technique where light scattered off a sample is used to measure molecular vibrations, researchers have created a scoring system that can distinguish beef, horse meat, and mixtures of the two. The work, to be published next month in Food Chemistry, is timely considering a meat scandal that occurred early last year in Europe, where some of the products sold as beef in grocery stores and to caterers turned out to be partially or entirely horse meat instead. The motive appears to have been profit, as horse meat is generally cheaper than beef. Testing to check for horse meat is generally done using DNA analysis, but the new method allows for a simpler and quicker test that can be performed onsite.


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The weather that is. We had a Winter that would not go away, a topsy turvy summer and now a chilly Fall?!? IT'S NOT FAIR!
This weather has made me quite rebellious. So rebellious that I've been wearing some of my hand knit sweaters this past week (which I never do for varying reasons). I will wear ALL the handknits before I switch to my warmer coat. It's TOO EARLY!


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I'm a Tenured Reader in System Security (Associate Professor) at the Newcastle University. Im the Director of the Centre for Cybercrime and Computer Security (CCCS), a UK Academic Centre of Excellence in Cyber Security Research (ACE-CSR). I'm a member of the Secure and Resilient Systems group and the Centre for Software Reliability (CSR).
Before that, I've been a tenured research scientist at the Information Security and Cryptography group of IBM Research - Zurich as well as IBM Corporation's Research Relationship Manager for Privacy and director of IBM's Privacy Research Institute (PRI).
We pursue the verification of security properties of infrastructure clouds. See talks at EU CSP'12 or ACM CCSW'11.
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I've been leading an initiative to establish anonymous credential systems on electronic identity cards, more generally on the Java Card platform. We coined this Smart Identity Card, and contributed it to the FP7 EU project PrimeLife. Whereas we follow the same goal of strong authentication combined with privacy, the Java Card's trust model, limited access to crypto primitives and resource constraints make this a challenge. The system must be secure in face of untrusted terminals and, thus, cannot easily delegate computation to a more powerful device and still achieve practical response times with secure keys. Nevertheless, we were the first to establish a practical and autonomous anonymous credential system on a standard Java Card (on a JCOP 41/v2.2 to be precise).Read more...