Facebook reportedly argues there's no 'expectation of privacy' on social media - <AUTHOR> https://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-reportedly-thinks-theres-no-expectation-of-privacy-on-social-media/ <comment><USER2> Going from a model where social media is a new instance of the public square I guess I would agree there is no expectation of privacy in the public square, but where the public square metaphor breaks down is that this square is actually owned by a corporation that is taking pictures and wiretapping all the individual conversations taking place in their square and selling the contents thereof to other corporations.

So as always metaphors are a lousy way to reason, and quickly break down because once you are arguing that X is like Y you will end up hitting the limit of X being unlike Y anytime you try to deal with something complicated in regards to X.

Hence regulation of a medium where everything lasts forever and can be looked up instantaneously from almost anywhere, and copied and repeated all over the world by anyone wanting to do so, should not follow the model of regulation for a medium where everything is ephemeral and while theoretically open to anyone in practice not so open because availability of space is a limiting factor on proximity and proximity is needed to take part.

<comment><USER3> Also, given that metaphor, if I'm whispering to a friend in a public square, I do have an expectation of privacy in the sense that there should not be boom mics placed everywhere to pick up the smallest of conversations.

<comment><USER4> The "expectation of privacy" isn't about what you would expect regular people to do. It's about what you would expect malicious actors like spies (or just private detectives hired to tail you) to do. You wouldn't expect to be safe from a detective with a boom mic in the public square—therefore, the square is not a place where you should be having private conversations (even whispered) if you have anything to hide.

<comment><USER5> I wouldn't expect to be safe from that detective in my own house, in a sealed room! But I certainly have an expectation of privacy there.

<comment><USER4> You _should_ expect to be safe from that detective in your own house, because we've drawn a very clear distinction—that detective is _breaking the law_ by snooping on what you do in your own private residence. If the police wanted to discover what you were doing in your own home, they'd have to get a warrant in order to not be breaking the law by doing that ("warrant" literally being defined as "a writ making something that's normally illegal to do, temporarily not, for you, in this situation.")

Whereas, neither the private detective, nor the police, would be breaking the law by snooping on you in the public square. So either/both would feel _empowered_ to do so, because society does not think such an action is worthy of punishment.

<comment><USER5> That's pretty circular logic. There are feedback loops between expectations and law, but that doesn't mean the status quo is always correct. The nature of how much surveillance one person can perform has increased by many orders of magnitude. It's worth rethinking how we limit public surveillance.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> For anyone looking for the actual PDF page, my best guess is it's referring to page 25 of docket number 261.

Here's the quote I found; it seems to be referring to a particular tort. You may also want to look at the full text to see the citations I omitted in the [...] for brevity:

 _Intrusion upon seclusion. This tort requires intentional intrusion "upon the solitude or seclusion of another or his private affairs or concerns … if the intrusion would be highly offensive to a reasonable person." [...] Plaintiffs have not alleged any intrusion into their private affairs; rather, the information at issue is all data they already shared with a broad circle of friends and even strangers (friends of friends). [...] Nor could the disclosure of information such as page likes, which are designed to be communicated to other people, be "highly offensive to a reasonable person." Disclosure of far more private information, such as private medical records and the identity of undercover police, has been found insufficient. The "highly offensive standard … is reserved for truly exceptional cases of intrusion," [...] and this is not such as case._

</comment><comment><USER7> I always find this BS legal idea of "expectation of privacy" backwards.

The important thing is not whether there's some pre-existing "expectation of privacy" in a domain (e.g. public square, or social media).

The important thing is whether (1) society _wants_ (or deems beneficial) privacy in that domain and (2) privacy is achievable in that domain.

If (1) and (2) hold, there should be no talk of "expectation" and other such BS.

[1] and this can be settled with e.g. a referendum or a number of other ways.

<comment><USER8> I probably wouldn't be so cavalier about writing off and calling BS the legacy of legal definitions that are successfully protecting citizens. It has taken a long time and a lot of smart people to get to where we are with expectation of privacy, and while it might not be perfect, it has been battle tested in court, so it's presumptuous to assume your untested opinions are clearly better.

The problem I see with your suggestion is then society must pro-actively make some sort of decision for each and every domain in advance, which isn't possible. The goal of expectation of privacy is as a test to determine when privacy would be or has been violated on a case by case basis. In that sense it's already somewhat doing what you're talking about; it is a way to determine whether society deems privacy beneficial in a given domain.

Whether privacy is achievable does not make a good criteria at all, because it's always possible to compromise privacy. The entire point of the "expectation of privacy" test is to determine whether someone who did violate another's privacy should be allowed to, it's a pre-cursor to determining right to privacy.

<comment><USER7> > _The problem I see with your suggestion is then society must pro-actively > make some sort of decision for each and every domain in advance, which isn't > possible._

First, why not? It's very much possible, we have all kinds of systems in place, even electronic voting.

Second, privacy is a serious matter, of which there aren't tons, so it's not like "each and every domain" is equally important.

Third, it's not like a decision for all domains has to be taken simultaneously and right now. We could vote for one domain per year, and we'd have covered 10 most important domains in a decade...

> _The goal of expectation of privacy is as a test to determine when privacy > would be or has been violated on a case by case basis._

It's also used to mean "you wouldn't expect it in X domain, so you don't get to have it there".

And, as lots of domains where privacy is important are new, what's "expected" can go either way, like FB trying to argue that "people don't expect privacy in social media".

If we instead change it to whether people _want_ privacy in social media, that's more clear cut, regardless to whatever someone can argue we "expect" or "not".

In fact, even if we keep it to "expect" (as the deciding factor), why shouldn't we vote on whether we do expect it or not? Why expect should be speculation?

Ask us (the people) to vote directly whether we expect it or not, don't decide for us, with some BS medieval-style theological syllogisms...

<comment><USER8> I suspect your strong negative reaction to expectation of privacy is because you're mixing up expectation of privacy with right to privacy, which are two different legal concepts. I think what you're proposing is right to privacy laws rather than expectation of privacy. Laws establishing right to privacy already exist as a declaration of what domains society deems privacy necessary in. Expectation of privacy is there as a legal test to help make determinations in cases where the right to privacy hasn't been already established.

We can and do already vote on it, and laws establishing the right to privacy online already exist and more are in the process of being established, since historically speaking online domains have only just barely been invented.

[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_privacy#Privacy_law...](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_privacy#Privacy_laws_in_different_countries)

For example, you already have no right to privacy from being photographed while outside in public in the US. You already do have an established right to privacy in your bedroom. Neither of those cases is subject to expectation of privacy tests, because the right to privacy has already been determined.

Personally it seems quite useful for expectation of privacy to always exist as a way to help sort out domains that have not yet been covered by law, and it would be silly to think that we understand all the future permutations and implications of online privacy mixed with big data well enough to cover it legally today.

Facebook's defense here is using "expectation of privacy" in a subversive and sneaky way. The problem is Facebook has both kinds of data, public and private. It's wrong to suggest that people don't have an expectation of privacy for their hidden profile data just because they're using social media. It's probably right to suggest that anything I post publicly can't be considered private, even if people want that. But that's complicated when you data-mine all public data at once and draw potentially private implications using AI. It looks like their defense is about to be tested in court, so hopefully the court will see through Facebook's defense. One of the outcomes of Facebook using "expectation of privacy" as their defense is that whatever happens here in court starts to become the law by precedent.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> This should not hold.

Facebook has been running huge ads all over media and streets with "your privacy choices" and "we protect your privacy" to salvage some of their reputation.

If they do this, and then at the same time claim there is no privacy on their platform, any judge who does not throw this out would be really dumb.

Right?

<comment><USER10> This was my first thought. The ability to specifically control your post privacy and profile profile seems to imply there /is/ and expectation of privacy? IANAL but that just doesn't make sense to me.

</comment></comment><comment><USER11> Tech people and young people are quitting Facebook or have done so. These are the trendsetter groups. We have likely seen peak of social media

<comment><USER12> Tech people and young people in general? Or just people you know? I've been seeing variations of this comment on Hacker News for over 10 years now, and yet the imminent demise of Facebook as a result of users who probably never actively used it anyway leaving has yet to be realized.

<comment><USER11> That's fair point. I can only speak for people I know. Facebook has become less for sharing with friends but more about messenger and events

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER13> Contrast to Facebook's recent "privacy initiative". A certain level of untruth is unfortunately expected from company PR, but Facebook is really taking it to the next level.

</comment><comment><USER14> I have to admit this sounds awful but true. I'm not going to be hypocrite and claim to have read the Facebook terms of use but I have never really expected those to be in my favor in terms of privacy.

Society and regulators should treat the social media industry like we do with tobacco and firearms.

</comment><comment><USER15> Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks.

<comment><USER16> You know everyone always calls this the "dumb fucks" quote, but I think it ought to be the "just ask" quote. That's the truly objectionable part, the part that exposes the black heart of Facebook even today - you have no expectation of privacy, and your data is handed over to third parties for a pittance (or even, in this case, to impress Zuck's friends).

</comment></comment><comment><USER17> > "There is no invasion of privacy at all, because there is no privacy,"

... and therefore one should seriously consider not using Facebook.

</comment><comment><USER18> Wow, just... wow. What happened to their thing of building a "privacy based" Facebook? Either their PR sucks worse than I thought or that whole balloon deflated rather quickly.

</comment><comment><USER19> Did they suddenly forget the court cases oh say oh crypto? Those held that yes we do have a US right to non public free speech.

</comment><comment> village-idiot Given the outrage about data theft and sales, I believe the consumer has an expectation of privacy on Facebook.

</comment><comment><USER20> Is this really a surprise to anyone? I mean beyond that they admit it?

</comment><comment><USER21> So have they officially given up on Facebook at Work?

<comment><USER22> No. But companies should.

</comment></comment><comment><USER23> That's not at all unreasonable on _social_ media

<comment><USER24> Do you really think putting the word 'social' in italics is sufficient to argue that Facebook can hand my private data over to third parties without my knowledge?

If you've read the article, the context here is the cambridge analytica scandal, not someone posting on their public timeline.

<comment><USER23> Yeah. Because frankly I dont get what information you put on Facebook should be considered private, and that would include what cambridge analytica did. I think that knowing it's a social media platform is more than sufficient to have zero expectation that anything at all put there is private.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER25> I would agree with facebook in this point.

Data you put on social media is basically public. It may not be easily discoverable by the public at large, but that lack of discoverability is not a perpetual guarantee at all.

But most participants on social media don't understand that. Maybe it's because they overestimate the confidentiality of social circles. Even offline that's not much of a protection.

<comment><USER26> >>> But most participants on social media don't understand that.

So you actually are conceding the point. You agree that "most participants" actually do have an expectation of privacy.

<comment><USER25> A common expectation may well be unreasonable.

In my opinion it is unreasonable to expect friends not to share private information about you. And I see a lot of evidence, both in my life and from observation of other people, that people consistently underestimate the probability of friends breaking that trust.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER27> Well said, Facebook.

People are uploading thing to the internet for the sole purpose of having as many people as possible see it. That's the entire goal of the exercise.

It's baffling that those same people would then turn around and behave as though they are surprised that people can see those things.

<comment><USER28> I upload photos to S3 as a backup, only I have ever seen them (I think).

Is it ok for Amazon to sell or use them? How about using them to blackmail me ? Would that be ok?

<comment><USER27> No. Just the things I said in my comment.

So if instead of uploading that photo to S3 and marking it private, you uploaded it to Facebook and clicked the "Show This Photo To Everybody In The World" button, it would be OK for Facebook to show it to everybody in the world. It would be impossible to blackmail you with it, given that there is nobody left without the ability to see it, at your request.

I personally have lots of photos up on Facebook that anybody in the world can look at if they choose. I also have lots of photos that nobody but me and my family can look at unless I show them personally. I accomplished this by not uploading photos from that second group to Facebook.

<comment><USER28> But if Facebook (as they do) offer you a service that allowed you to share the photos with a selected set of individuals would you not have the reasonable expectation that Facebook would not share them further?

What I'm parsing out of your comments is that no matter what Facebook says we should expect it to act without regards to privacy?

<comment><USER27> So to paraphrase what you're saying, in both your comments:

"But if [something other than what I said], then [something different would happen]."

Yes. I agree with your conclusions about the things I didn't say. But I guess I'll have to ask that you stop posting them as though they were responses to (or related in some way to) things I _did_ say.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER29> Given that people are fired on a pretty regular basis for social media posts, I'd tend to agree.

<comment><USER30> People have been fired for being gay, does that mean there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in the bedroom?

<comment><USER20> There is privacy in the bedroom because we expect there to be.

On social media, we share (and over share), and yet we are shocked at our privacy being exposed. We should not expect it.

If we talk quietly to each other in the privacy in our homes, sharing that information is a breaking of social trust.

If we talk on the bus around others, we should't be too surprised if someone hears us.

If we share what we say to all, we should absolutely not be shocked. Especially when we are explicitly sharing on purpose.

<comment><USER31> Am I missing something? When I was on FB I only shared with maybe 50 friends/family. My expectation was that it ended precisely there.

<comment><USER20> Facebook knows everything - and they use that. That lack of social trust is about them not playing fair. You did everything right, and you trusted your friends. It's Facebook that broke your social trust.</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


Software Design is Human Relationships: Waiters, Changers, and Sufficiency - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/@kentbeck_7670/software-design-is-human-relationships-part-2-of-3-waiters-changers-and-sufficiency-4c0bb9a08d23 <comment><USER2> Strange naming.

> Even though both groups' incentives are ultimately the same, the short-term > incentives they face diverge. Waiters stereotypically want more behavior > changes faster, focused on either latency or throughput. Changers > stereotypically want the structure clean and tidy (not all changers are the > same — part 3 addresses the changer-changer relationship).

Is this a roundabout way of describing stakeholders and developers?

Structure changes vs behavior changes also seems like a circuitous way of describing refactoring versus feature work.

I don't think I got the essay. Would someone who liked it mind sharing what insights you got out of it?

My summary would basically be "Make sure features are added to keep stakeholders happy. But also try to interweave some refactoring to keep yourself happy".

<comment><USER3> > Is this a roundabout way of describing stakeholders and developers?

Maybe, but not the way I skim read it.

The chord it strikes for me is nearer Agile vs Waterfall, between those who would rather quickly get a thin slice put together and those who (at the extreme opposite) would endlessly design, document and polish before producing it.

On a current project I'm the developer who wants to build the features out quickly and the stakeholder is a government client who wants to go very slowly with all the design and documentation upfront.</comment></comment>


Ask HN: How do you RSS? - <AUTHOR> There is building momentum around a return to blogging and RSS. Perhaps we're near a tipping point.<p>To give another push: How do _you_ RSS? What are your preferred tools? What are the highlights of your feed these days and why? What practices and workflows bring you value? What considerations should consumers and producers of RSS content be aware of? <comment><USER2> I self host Miniflux [1] and am really happy with it, although recently I have moved toward using Fraidycat [2]. I really like the way that Fraidycat groups things by author, whereas traditional RSS readers just give you a feed. This enables me to follow high-volume publishers (such as Marginal Revolution) without the anxiety of seeing the Unread count in my reader creep ever higher.

The only downside of Fraidycat for now is that you can only use it as a browser extension, so it doesn't work on mobile.

[1]: [https://miniflux.app/](https://miniflux.app/) [2]: [https://fraidyc.at/](https://fraidyc.at/)

<comment><USER3> Firefox/Android accept all desktop extensions.

<comment><USER4> ...and it's probably the most important reason I wont buy an iPhone.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> I have been using Feedly since Google Reader was shut down. Use it across iPhone, iPad and web. I also use it to capture other articles and bookmarks on my boards.

I have subscribed to Pro for awhile but mostly for search and a few other things. I think they do have feed limits on the free tier.

I've tried and used a lot of different readers over the last 20 years but for me the most important is sync of read status across my consumption devices.

I have a lot of feeds across many different categories. HN, lobsters, dotnetkicks and a bunch of other high volume aggregators make up one category. Then I have feeds for startup/VC blogs, engineering blogs, some hyper local stuff, and some other non tech categories I'm involved in (food, wine, etc)

</comment><comment><USER6> When Google reader shut down I switched to, and now pay for, [https://inoreader.com](https://inoreader.com) for reading (they have a free ad-supported tier or paid tiers). The HTML and iOS browsing experience is excellent.

For dealing with sites that don't support RSS, I run a paid service [https://kopi.cloud](https://kopi.cloud) \- it allows you to give out anonymous mail addresses to services such as Twitter, Linked-in, Facebook, etc. that can be configured to publish all mail received as an RSS feed.

<comment><USER7> How's your website kopi.cloud different from kill-the-newsletter.com?

<comment><USER6> Kopi is more broad, it's primarily about handing out burner addresses after you create a "forwarder". You don't have to visit Kopi each time you want to use a new address. You can reply to messages sent via a forwarder, but the sender still won't know your real address. You can block individual burner address with a single click if a sender leaks it / starts abusing it.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER8> I use NewsBlur in Firefox and via the Android app, and I'm very happy with it.

<comment><USER9> +1 for Newsblur, also open source! [https://github.com/samuelclay/NewsBlur](https://github.com/samuelclay/NewsBlur)

I dearly miss Google Reader but that's the best replacement (and even better now than Reader was)

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> I do most of my browsing from RSS. I've got a handful of sites in my browser's bookmarks, and about 40 in my RSS feed. I've got Feedly Pro, and use both the Windows Web client and a few different apps on Android (I'm trying to wean myself of gReader Pro, but the thing still works after 5+ yrs w/o updates, and is just perfect). I dismiss 90% of RSS items because dupes or not interested (there's a reason those sites didn't make my bookmarks). I might dismiss a bit less is there was a snooze option, but there isn't. I'll do most of my reading in-app, and switch to the browser only if I want to read or add to the comments. My main issue currently is sites getting borked by google's "html simplifier" (whatever they call it). The thing I love most aside caching + offline reading is Firefox Andoird ability to open pages in the background, so I can sift thourgh my RSS items, dismiss 90%, and open a few pages that I'll get to once I'm done cleaning up my RSS feed and have time.

</comment><comment><USER10> Most importantly: [http://hnapp.com/](http://hnapp.com/) to produce an RSS feed for Hacker News. I use a feed that returns anything reaching a score of 50 or gets 40 or more comments.

[http://hnapp.com/rss?q=score%3E49%20%7C%20comments%3E39](http://hnapp.com/rss?q=score%3E49%20%7C%20comments%3E39)

Have used Newsblur since Google Reader closed and been very happy with it on desktop and Android.

[https://www.newsblur.com/](https://www.newsblur.com/)

I use Pocket to save articles I want to read later, which makes them available on my Kobo ereader. (I'd switch to Instapaper if my ereader supported it, it seems to handle sites Pocket often chokes on.)

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> Personal pain point: Math seems to be a growing topic on the web and tools like MathJax are a popular tool for talking about Math. But (most? all?) RSS readers won't render MathJax. Does anyone have a simple and effective way to handle display issues like that?

<comment><USER11> There's a bookmarklet that renders Tex/LaTeX, MathML and AsciiMathML notation on pages dynamically using the MathJax.

I use it mainly with feedbin. It works most of the time

[https://www.checkmyworking.com/misc/mathjax- bookmarklet/](https://www.checkmyworking.com/misc/mathjax-bookmarklet/)

</comment></comment><comment><USER12> I use Tiny Tiny RSS [https://tt-rss.org/](https://tt-rss.org/)

screenshot: [https://snipboard.io/wb27CO.jpg](https://snipboard.io/wb27CO.jpg)

</comment><comment><USER13> I recently got back into RSS and have been using (free) NetNewsWire on macOS/AppStore ([https://github.com/Ranchero- Software/NetNewsWire](https://github.com/Ranchero-Software/NetNewsWire)).

Though RSS clients in 2020 really need to be scraping the origin website. 50% of my feeds are just one-liner blurbs.

RSS clients that just do RSS feel anachronistic. I've been browsing some other solutions, but the modern client really should be a hub that can turn any website into a feed.

Someone linked Fraidycat which is on the right path, objective-wise.

</comment><comment><USER14> I read most blogs with Reeder (over 1000 blogs). Top blogs are in 1. folder, the rest are in 2. folder.

Here is an export of all the subscriptions (stored with Inoreader): [https://gist.github.com/nikitavoloboev/63b5d2418122fcd6949d8...](https://gist.github.com/nikitavoloboev/63b5d2418122fcd6949d854dc5080689)

How I use Reeder: [https://wiki.nikitavoloboev.xyz/research/blogs](https://wiki.nikitavoloboev.xyz/research/blogs)

</comment><comment><USER15> I'm using my self-built reader called Feedist (not public) . It's extremely lightweight and built in boring PHP. The most important feature to me is the personal recommendation page which shows me the top 50 new posts in my subscribed feeds based on my previous reading behavior. It uses almost the same scoring algorithm as HN behind the scenes. It's so accurate and saves me a ton of time. Subscribing to a lot of feeds creates a lot of noise and this makes it easier to find content I might enjoy.

</comment><comment><USER16> Moved to inoreader - free tier for up to 150 feeds, works on mobile too

<comment><USER17> Another vote for inoreader. I glady pay inoreader at a higher level than features that I need in order to help ensure I never go thru a google reader debacle again. Inoreader also integrates in facebook pages, twitter accounts and youtube subscriptions to your RSS list.

</comment></comment><comment><USER18> I specifically installed Waterfox so I could keep using SageRSS. It's ancient, but I've never found anything else that comes close to being as good. People have made modern copies, but they got subtle things like font sizes and preview windows wrong so I found that they all fell in an uncanny valley for me.

</comment><comment><USER19> I run an instance of Selfoss. I found this thread because selfoss polls hackernews via [https://hnrss.org/frontpage?count=1](https://hnrss.org/frontpage?count=1)

<comment><USER20> Same here. I tried tiny-rss and a few others and settled on (self-hosted) Selfoss.

Super easy to set up (PHP + mysql), supports tagging, inline-images, etc. I'm also subscribed to HN through the hnrss site (weird that HN doesn't have its own RSS feed).

Here's a screenshot of my feed:

[https://thumbsnap.com/f/4AcGkWqu](https://thumbsnap.com/f/4AcGkWqu)

</comment></comment><comment><USER21> I use both [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/feedly- notifi...](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/feedly-notifier/)

(as a browser sidebar it really turns the RSS feed reader "builtin limited web view's rendering issues" dilemma around)

and [https://addons.mozilla.org/en- US/firefox/addon/livemarks/](https://addons.mozilla.org/en- US/firefox/addon/livemarks/)

and I can definitely recommend both.

</comment><comment><USER22> Inoreader has always been great, better than google reader that everyone is mourning. I've been using it for 7 years now. Today I use it mostly for Github commit feeds actually.

</comment><comment><USER23> Recently I've created [https://rosselo.com](https://rosselo.com), which provides useful and elegant news dashboard. Works in browser on every device.

It's under development now - freemium model will be presented soon (among other things). So don't hesitate to try it out, the current "trial" is in fact unlimited now so the whole service is currently entirely for free.

Any feedback will be appreciated!

</comment><comment><USER24> Reeder on iOS and Feedly as a back-end. I don't read news any other way, although I maintained this for a while:

[https://github.com/rcarmo/rss2imap](https://github.com/rcarmo/rss2imap)

Edit: I use Reeder because I can pull in articles in "Reader view" from obnoxious title-only feeds with a single tap. Don't do those, post full articles or I most likely will keep looking for alternatives to your content...

</comment><comment><USER25> After I stopped using FB I missed a mobile news reader app that works without having to install a server or create an account.

So with some friends we created an app called Feeds [https://github.com/felfele/feeds](https://github.com/felfele/feeds)

It does everything on the phone and there is no ads or tracking whatsoever. You can also mute content with keywords.

It is open-source and currently in open beta for iOS and Android.

</comment><comment><USER26> If you are looking for something more robust, I would recommend Fluxonaut ([https://fluxonaut.com](https://fluxonaut.com)). It's only for Windows and is still in beta but you can mix RSS, Twitter and YouTube quite nicely through multiple screens!

(Full disclaimer: I'm a founder, but I truly feel it's the best way to consume RSS if you use 2+ monitors on Windows =) ).

<comment><USER27> Pity the beta is closed already

<comment><USER26> We are opening it soon, but meanwhile, the waiting period is almost zero. Depending on the influx, you'll probably get the beta key instantly.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER28> Reading this via Feedly on Android. For audio podcasts when I'm biking I use BeyondPod Pro [1] - tried a bunch of options, it was the only one I found which reliably downloads episodes while on wifi and plays them with no issue while offline.

[1] [http://www.beyondpod.mobi/android/index.htm](http://www.beyondpod.mobi/android/index.htm)

</comment><comment><USER29> Vienna RSS client for Mac does all what I need. Feeds with simple organising. Flagging interesting articles. Good enough search.

As for producers - depending how noisy your feed is, please keep it long enough to fetch several days' content. It sucks if I don't open up the client and something goes missing pushed out by newer content.

</comment><comment><USER30> I use netvibes.com and have been for I don't know how long.

My dashboard there has some 8-ish tabs for different topics I follow, each with ca. 6 feeds.

I can mark each feed as read or a whole tab at once. Each tab has a counter of how much new stuff it has, so I can get a tiny sliver of excitement when there is some news about topic x.

</comment><comment><USER31> I use the Feedly web UI on desktop and NetNewsWire (which is open source) on iOS. I'm not a huge fan of the Feedly web UI because it doesn't support scraping the source page for the full article text. Too many of my RSS feeds only include the first paragraph or even just the subtitle.

</comment><comment><USER32> Hardest part these days is finding the rss feed. It used to be $url/rss, and gold. Then people moved on to fakebook and twitting, and it was forgotten.

I use theoldreader.com for news since google reader died, so long as I find decent content and an actually rss feed, I tend to add here.

</comment><comment><USER33> Feedbro addon for Firefox

[https://addons.mozilla.org/en- US/firefox/addon/feedbroreader...](https://addons.mozilla.org/en- US/firefox/addon/feedbroreader/)

</comment><comment><USER34> I've been using rss2email from [https://github.com/rss2email/rss2email](https://github.com/rss2email/rss2email) — seems to works well for my needs

</comment><comment><USER35> Self hosting [https://github.com/lawzava/mynews](https://github.com/lawzava/mynews)

Flexible and configurable rss/atom feeds from a single binary

</comment><comment><USER36> I'm fond of FreshRSS. It almost fills the void left by Google Reader.

</comment><comment><USER37> Newsboat (a currently maintained fork of Newsbeuter). It's a wonderful easy to use commandline RSS reader.

[https://newsboat.org](https://newsboat.org)

</comment><comment><USER38> I use fieryfeeds on iOS. It integrates with Nextcloud news and Pocket and is quite featurefull. I moved most of my reading off twitter which I used to access with Tweetbot.

</comment><comment><USER39> I hosted Tiny Tiny RSS myself for years after Google Reader closed, I must say it was very stable and hardly ever needed intervention.

But eventually I got fed up and moved to Feedly.

</comment><comment><USER40> When google shutdown its rss service, I switch to [https://protopage.com](https://protopage.com) ... its really good

</comment><comment><USER27> Google reader -> Digg reader -> Inoreader free version. BBC and NYT news feeds, Business Insider and Hacker News for biz and tech respectively.

</comment><comment><USER41> the mother of all parsers [https://github.com/feedjira/feedjira](https://github.com/feedjira/feedjira)

sure Inoreader for android

sure [https://bit.ly/37Mtlq2](https://bit.ly/37Mtlq2) for browser, perfect to guest it on 2nd monitor, gets updated every hour.

</comment><comment><USER42> I host my own tt-rss, and the install FeedMonkey (via my own sources.vsta.org) which provides a very nice viewer.

</comment><comment><USER43> Self host FreshRSS and use Reeder on iOS.

</comment><comment><USER44> Tiny Tiny RSS self hosted. tiny Reader for iOS. There is an open source Android app as well.

</comment><comment><USER45> I use "Reader" on Android.

Make your content either plain text or HTML that doesn't require JS.

</comment><comment><USER46> i really like [https://newsboat.org/](https://newsboat.org/). very few keystrokes to remember, super fast, ~/.newsboat/urls is a simple file with 1 feed a line.

</comment><comment><USER47> I use Feedbin in a browser on a computer, and in an app on phone and iPad.

</comment><comment><USER48> My solution for sites that don't offer RSS is to ignore those sites.

</comment><comment><USER49> i switched to feedly when google reader died, and carried on as normal.

</comment><comment><USER50> Anyone have recommendations for an Android RSS reader?

<comment><USER51> I like FeedMe -- clean and functional interface, supports offline caching, works with common RSS providers too (e.g. I use it with Feedbin) [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seazon.fee...](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seazon.feedme)

</comment></comment><comment><USER52> Reeder on iPhone + MiniFlux, like many people here.

</comment><comment><USER53> I use Feedly with Reeder app.

</comment><comment><USER54> QuiteRSS on Linux

</comment><comment><USER55> Reeder + Feedbin

</comment><comment><USER56> Paid inoreader</comment>


Sexuality and Gender - <AUTHOR> http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/number-50-fall-2016 <comment><USER2> Quick unrelated question, what does this statement mean?

"a believer in marriage and the Marines [...]"

<comment><USER3> I would guess that it refers to someone who is a "true american", placing faith in a the military and a Christian God who blesses sex only within marriage. In short, someone who is more conservative.</comment></comment>


Visualizing hackers and what they need in a co-founder - <AUTHOR> http://blog.omgponi.es/post/335945332/who-needs-a-co-founder

<comment><USER2> btw, we've tried these yesterday here:

User skillset

[http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/files/thumbnails...](http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/files/thumbnails/6e5fbdc6-013a-11df-892f-000255111976.wm.png)

Ideal co-founder:

[http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/files/thumbnails...](http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/files/thumbnails/ca1b9068-013a-11df-901b-000255111976.wm.png)</comment>


Ask YC: pre-load html pages so they load "instantaneously"? - <AUTHOR>

You can pre-load images that you expect to show on the next page the user sees, so they'll be cached. I'm wondering, would it be practical, if a user is paging through a set of pages by clicking next next next, to preload the next page while the user is watching the current page, so that when they click next it's cached and it appears to load pretty much instantaneously? A text page zipped up is like what, 15, 20kb, so it's not really a traffic hit. And you save the server response time + page generating time, user won't have to wait for that.<p>Thoughts? Crazy talk? <comment><USER2> In Firefox, you can do:

        <link rel="next" href="page2.html">

Then page2.html will be silently downloaded when the browser is idle, and served from the cache when the user finally clicks the link.

It's called prefetching and it only works in FF. More info here: <https://developer.mozilla.org/en/link_prefetching_faq>

</comment><comment><USER3> We did something like this at Yahoo! with an R&D project that never saw the light of day. The functionality was later integrated with Yahoo! toolbar. I think it was called 'Speedboost' or something like that. I'm not a fan of browser toolbars and it was around the time that I left so I don't remember much about how it was being marketed.

It took all the visual aspects of Yahoo! properties and 'pushed' them to the IE and FF cache so that when a user visited any number of Yahoo! properties, most of the visuals had already been loaded in the background.

</comment><comment><USER4> If the use case is people clicking next repeatedly, then I think a more practical solution is standard data loading via AJAX.

Before building something like this, I would look into its effectiveness in browsers like Firefox that have prefetching enabled by default; at least I think FF still prefetches by default.

</comment><comment><USER5> I tend to really dislike tools like that because they cause a lot of resource consumption based on assumptions that are more often than not wrong. Anticipating users behaviour is quite difficult. What's probably better if you force your users to click 'next, next' is to rethink the way your site is laid out.

<comment><AUTHOR> Disagree. Remember, we're talking about 10k gzipped data. That's like loading 1 extra image, in the background, all for a better user experience. I also disagree because once you experience flipping through photos on FB versus Flickr, you'll see how awesome preloading really can be. It's not just a little faster, there's a different in kind. You use FB photos differently, because it's so fast. It's that difference in kind that I'm shooting for here.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> Pretty sure facebook photos does this

<comment><AUTHOR> Facebook photos is awesomely fast, it was my inspiration for this.

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> It's not crazy. You should pre-ajax in the content of the next page. Set display:none, when the user clicks next, show it.

<comment><USER8> This is how jQuery tabs work too. Definitely not crazy.</comment></comment>


Work Habits at Apple - <AUTHOR> http://oleb.net/blog/2014/09/work-habits-at-apple/ <comment><USER2> Why would anyone subject themselves to this torture? It's not worth it. You're making money that you can't enjoy. You're missing out on your kids childhood to design a smartphone.

<comment><USER3> _> 'Why would anyone subject themselves to this torture?'_

It wasn't at Apple or anything approaching it, but I had years of similar treatment - expectations of 24/7 availability, continuous last minute, personal service to executives and never-ending crunch time.

I didn't have kids or a mortgage to worry about and I had enough in the bank that I could probably have spent a year or more unemployed without much concern for money.

For me, it was several things.

* Pride in being dependable and capable of delivering on whatever was asked of me.

* A not entirely conscious expectation that I would eventually be rewarded for such sacrifice.

* Genuine enjoyment of much of the work I was doing.

Needless to say, my outlook has changed a bit in the years since, but looking back, I don't think it was having a child or any other responsibility that did it.

More than anything it's probably the simple realization that deriving enjoyment from something doesn't negate its cost. Moderation is straightforward for things which are easy to categorize. The difficulty in categorizing 'enjoyable work' is implicit.

I think that saying to the effect of 'find a job you love and never work a day in your life' is only talking about a certain part of your mind. Your body and all the unconscious and unobvious bits that make up your life are not immune to wear and tear by virtue of your positive perception.

Next would be understanding the diminishing returns and potential negatives of hard work. In short, if you're going to work hard for someone else, aim high, help that person succeed and see that their success is tied to yours. Being too valuable to someone with low aspirations is career poison.

<comment><USER4> This really resonates deeply for me as well. When I was completely buried with difficult projects, I would occasionally complain about being "too busy". However, when things normalized to 40-50 hours a week, I would feel lazy. I reached a point where building a reputation as being someone capable of delivering when the situations were not ideal was a far greater motivator than money or free-time.

I found Daniel Pink's "Drive" an interesting read on the topic of what really motivates in the modern era.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> It's nice when people write up podcasts. There's so much content locked up in them that is only appreciated by 1% of the audience compared to when the same people write blog posts.

<comment><USER6> Author of the blog post here. I had this idea to start a site for crowdsourced podcast transcripts (or indeed any audio content) but never did it. I'd still love to see such a site because I agree that there is so much valuable content.

But transcription is just a huge amount of work and I'm not sure how well you could automate it with the help of software.

<comment><USER7> That idea crossed my mind even seeing how many companies failed even during boom times.

Service could be powered by some speech recognition software (maybe more than one) which initially would give insane percentage of incorrectly recognized text. Community could fix those errors (weak link in my plan:)). Afterwards you feed data back to software and train it so next time it would work better.

Training would require marking which person talks when in episode to tune algorithms for each of them. Maybe group them by regional dialects.

Oh, another tiny small thingie - not clear how to monetize that.

<comment><USER8> Monetization: you could sell the service to professional podcasters as it would increase content on their site, and possibly serve as another place to put ads for their sponsors.

If you focused on a core set of popular podcasts you could package it as a monthly ebook or similar product. While overall people don't like paying for content like that I think it's possible to find a niche market that would.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> My neighbor when I lived in the Mission worked at Apple. We're engineers of similar seniority and he worked longer hours than I did, worked more weekends than I did, and earned less than I did. To say nothing of the perks (I work at Google). Small sample size, but I was taken aback.

<comment><USER10> He told you how much he earned? You must be big buddies.

<comment><USER11> No way; it's become common to talk salary with my friends, if for no other reason than to have ammo when going into salary negotiations.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER3> _> 'Melton: Yeah. And it was sometimes a roll of the dice. Like, you get the email from your boss, like from Scott, and you would not be quite sure about [the answer], and then you would reply or forward, include Scott so he gets a reply, and you would send it to one of your people. And the death was if that person didn't reply until the morning. Then that person has a black eye and you've just given them, made them look bad in front of your boss.'_

As stated, that's very typical but no less appalling non-management.

Cover yourself with a speedy reply while deflecting onto a sacrificial subordinate in one move.

It only takes a few minutes to ping your reports and determine which of then can/will reply before CC'ing one of them a grenade.

<comment><USER12> Agreed. That's a complete dick-move.

</comment></comment><comment><USER13> If you know NOW that you could be dying tomorrow and not have these regrets of the dying, then more power to you. But I wonder how realistic that is.

The 5 Regrets of the dying: [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/03/top-5-regrets-of- th...](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/03/top-5-regrets-of-the- dying_n_3640593.html)

#2: "I wish I hadn't worked so hard"

Another longer version: The Top 10 regrets of the dying [http://dalepartridge.com/top-10-regrets- dying/](http://dalepartridge.com/top-10-regrets-dying/)

<comment><USER14> I think that just depends on who you ask. I agree with /u/tannerc that I find great fulfillment in being challenged every day and working longer hours to solve problems. I find vacation tedious! If I looked back and saw that I hadn't worked as hard as I could have, I would feel nothing but regret and disappointment. I understand this isn't true for everyone, and I'm not saying it should be. But this is way I'm wired, for better or for worse.

<comment><USER15> look at the transcript. these people are just passing around emails, not "solving problems". i see it as a form of mental illness

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER16> One of the things Bill Gates commented about Steve Jobs, that he never really understood, is that when people turn around 35-40, they tend to chill out a bit, lose that intensity, and become "Management". For some reason, this didn't seem to happen to Steve, and he kept driving as hard as he did when he was 45 as was when he 25.

In comparison, Steve Ballmer, when he was on, was _nuts_ (in the best way) - but, I get the sense he took his foot off the accelerator, particularly during the Vista years, and the Windows Phone response to iPhone years.

There is something to be said for "Youthful Intensity" \- particularly if you can sustain it your entire working career without having a breakdown.

<comment><USER17> Jobs probably had several big chips on his shoulder that Gates never had, from being forced out of Apple, seeing the Mac lose badly to Windows, and then seeing Apple on the brink of death. Meanwhile, Gates was the richest man in the world and his company absolutely dominated the personal computing space.

<comment><USER18> Also, it seemed like jobs became more intense once he knew he was going to die.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER19> Not included in the transcript is something they mentioned in the podcast is that they feel that the companies management is very much run like a startup with few people in charge sending direct e-mails not only to their direct reports but to anyone within the company.

Seems to me that what might solve some of this e-mail craziness would be to realize better that they are a big company and do more delegation, perhaps to different time zones if they need to have a 24 hour work cycle but more realistically just stop this nonsense and hopefully change the culture to be more logical.

At my company e-mail is something where you expect acknowledgement within 24-48 hours depending on urgency with answers provided on a best availability schedule. Managers also take on fielding a lot of stuff being directed to their reports because they have aggregate knowledge and let's face it distributing a developer for trivial stuff leads to pointless productivity loss.

<comment><USER20> > hopefully change the culture to be more logical.

And why exactly would they do that? It seems to be working out pretty well for them.

I'm not arguing that the culture is good in any transcending way, but it would be hard to argue that it's not working.

<comment><USER19> Yes that's a point I was expecting to be raised after I wrote the above comment as is normal with any Apple post, "Hey there doing great why change anything", but I'd argue that yes things are working out great for them now but it's clearly costing the employees a portion of their personal life and I feel that given how well off the company is it shouldn't be needed.

In the podcast these ex Apple employees also mention being glad to be out of Apple because of issues like this, so provided that they move away from this culture they may see better employee retention for mid tier employees rather than having people burn out and leave the company.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER21> > Melton: And that's what I tried to explain to people. It's very subtle. It's > not required of you, but let's be honest, it's expected.

Well, it's required then.

</comment><comment><USER22> _When someone came into my office and said they wanna be a manager, I asked them, "How did you sleep last night?" And they said, "Oh, fairly well". and I said, "Good, 'cause that's the last good night's sleep you're gonna get."_

Having your underlings work to the point of sleep deprivation and estrangement from their families so that _you_ can get the acclaim, the adrenaline rush, and outsize stock market payouts isn't "brilliant", or "intense." And it certainly isn't necessary to create good products. It's just egomaniacal bullshit, period.

</comment><comment><USER23> It's like this in silicon valley in general. Now that I have a regular 9-5 that I don't have to take home every weekend, I don't hesitate when I'm called upon to go above and beyond. Also, I work smarter when I'm not stressed. I think most people do.

<comment><USER24> Just to play devils advocate, depending on what you are doing working smarter might be less productive than working dumber for longer hours.

</comment></comment><comment><USER25> Is it an essential requirement that in order to design great products or market leading products, management is supposed to work and force others to work during insane hours, especially sunday night?

I am not sure how frequently these things happen. May be ok, when you are near major deadline/shipment date but not on every week. Are there no other ways to avoid them like say, internal wiki/intranet ...etc so that mgmt can search answers on their own?

Many people followed Steve Jobs authoritative style of leadership after reading various accounts...etc. I hope mgmts of other companies won't shift to these methods concluding falsely that such working hours are essential for great products.

</comment><comment><USER26> I appreciate people that follow the Charles Bukowski mantra of life and "Find what you love and let it kill you." However, the most depressing part of this article was in the last paragraph where Melton says, "And so you have to ask yourself, is that really the way you wanna live your life? 'Cause it's not like I recommend it, either."

</comment><comment><USER27> Maybe if they stopped working stupid hours they would stop releasing buggy software.

Time and time again there is good academic evidence that these working hours do not make productive and creative employees, quite the opposite in fact.

<comment><USER15> yes. you're not doing work of any real substance if you're habitually pinging emails around into the early hours of SUNDAY morning

</comment></comment><comment><USER28> And is this an efficient or effective way to run a company?

> I know I've read a lot of studies how this is a stupid way for the tech > industry to function. And that's certainly true.

</comment><comment><USER29> Boy, I must be really stupid, since I subjected myself to this nonsense not in a glorious company like Apple, but in a go-nowhere fail-everytime startup...

</comment><comment><USER30> The only true scarcity in your life is your time. I'm glad I keep ignoring pings from Apple recruiters.

</comment><comment><USER31> Sounds like par for the course at another company beginning with "A"...

</comment><comment><USER32> No wonder their stuff is so messed up, it's all fear all the time.

</comment><comment><USER33> With the screwups in the release of iOS 8 it shows that such work habits do not guarantee successful software deployment.

<comment><USER33> Another iOS 8 screwup:

[http://www.infoworld.com/article/2689349/cloud- computing/ios...](http://www.infoworld.com/article/2689349/cloud- computing/ios-8-bug-deletes-iwork-docs.html)

Don't get me wrong, Apple fan here. Just not a fan of bad work environments.</comment></comment>


Adventures in Deleting Tweets - <AUTHOR> http://johnloeber.com/docs/twitter-likes.html <comment><USER2> You don't need all of this. All what you need is to request your data from twitter (Your Tweet archive > [https://twitter.com/settings/account](https://twitter.com/settings/account)). Iterate through the csv file and use tweet_id to unlike, remove or do what you want through their Twitter API.

Source: I have done it before, and it took less time/work than what you have stated.

<comment><USER3> With the exception of the data retrieval method, the OP tried this, and suggests that simply having the tweet_id is _not_ enough, if the tweet it corresponds to happens to be old enough (or something) to not be accessible by the API.

<comment><USER2> Twitter API allows you to get 3200 old tweets. That's not enough to delete all the tweets. If you request your data, you can get __all your tweets __.

>> tweet_id is not enough

tweet_id is enough to do any interaction if you give read/write to the key that you are using in your Twitter API. I deleted my tweets (back to 2012).

<comment><USER4> but it doesn't unlike. You have to re-like/un-like it now, too, beyond 3200.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> It seems like it should be easy for that API to provide access to take action on tweets beyond the 3200 threshold, by passing it along to a rate-limited task queue. I imagine there's an incentive to not provide hot access to old activity data due to infrastructure constraints, but if you just responded HTTP 202 and batched them all later, it'd be gentle enough on the colder shards.

<comment><USER6> But this is Twitter we're talking about.

The API is a relic of their (much better) past and nobody gives a shit about it anymore. It's a miracle it still works to be honest.

I wouldn't be surprised if this limitation was actually a feature part of their quest to piss off and alienate as many developers as possible.

<comment><USER7> Honestly they were probably too developer-friendly in the past. What other social network gives such comprehensive access via API that you can literally replicate the entire app in a third-party service? I'm not sure why any startup would allow third parties to make an end-run around their entire product.

<comment><USER6> The real value of a social network is in the people using it - whether they use a third-party client doesn't change anything in this regard. If anything, having third-parties making free/cheap clients for you is actually a bonus.

<comment><USER8> It matters if the third-party client decides to show their own ads instead of yours.

<comment><USER6> Make API access paid. Most of your users would switch to the official clients and see your ads. The few who wouldn't click on your ads anyway will keep using the third-party client. Everyone ends up happy as a result.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> Twitter (and their API) is horribly broken and inconsistent.

There is twint [0], which bypasses the API and just scrapes their website to circumvent API limitations.

The wrong number of favorites could be cached and it will go a way after a day or two, or it might be favorites on Tweets you can't see (because you're blocked, or the account is private, or the Tweet/account has been deleted).

As __bee said in another comment, you can request your Tweet archive and get the Tweet IDs from the CSV (I've seen a handful of Tweets of mine that were not in the CSV, but those are very rare). At least for deleting Tweets, there is no rate limit. Twitter also won't show your own Retweets when the original Tweet is no longer visible to you (although they might be included in the CSV) and made it impossible to interact with those. It used to be possible to delete Retweets if you somehow got its ID, but I think this has been disabled as well.

If you want to play around with the API but don't want to register your phone number and an application at Twitter, you can use tools such as the "t" cli [1] or the "twython" library [2] with any of these publicly known API keys [3].

0: [https://github.com/haccer/twint](https://github.com/haccer/twint)

1: [https://github.com/sferik/t/](https://github.com/sferik/t/)

2: [https://github.com/ryanmcgrath/twython](https://github.com/ryanmcgrath/twython)

3: [https://gist.github.com/sokcuri/42fba0b455a7b7b8ab772ba34426...](https://gist.github.com/sokcuri/42fba0b455a7b7b8ab772ba344268def)

</comment><comment><USER10> If you're doing all the browser scraping, wouldn't it have been easier to just automate your browser clicking the delete/unlike button itself? I've done this in the past with Selenium, sometimes needing GreaseMonkey.

<comment><AUTHOR> You'd still want to collect all the Tweet IDs such that you can archive them (download the JSON blobs).

<comment><USER11> The Id is easily scraped as well though

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> If any Mac or iOS developer wants to help create a native app that automates this tedious procedure, I'll be happy to design it.

</comment><comment><USER13> I've been using Tweet Cleaner for iOS for over a year. Works great.</comment>


Protect your data - keep it in your network - <AUTHOR> http://blog.apiaxle.com/post/protect-your-data/

<comment><USER2> Also [http://owncloud.org/](http://owncloud.org/)</comment>


Ask HN: How to get motivated to code? - <AUTHOR>

Hello HN,<p>I haven't touched code in a few months. In the beginning, it was because I got burned out. I realized I needed to take a break so I did -- had a little vacation away from home for a bit. I'm back now but I still can't get myself to write even a line of code. How do I get started? I need that initial motivation. How do you guys do it? <comment><USER2> Start by finding something you want to code. Then think about it for a few days, and let the pressure build up. Then one day, instead of turning on the tv or going to HN, remove distractions and commit to 10 minutes of coding with no distractions. If you're like me, you'll start working for an hour or so before you get interrupted, but by that time you'll be back in the groove.

</comment><comment><USER3> For me, I think for a while until I find something that I really want to make, or something that bugs me that I can fix, and even if it's something really very small, that motivation powers my first steps back into coding. It doesn't matter if someone's done it before, just do it _your way_.

</comment><comment><USER4> When I get burned out with what I'm working on, I just look for whatever fascinating is happening around the tech space, and try to implement a simple yet crazy something. I might not finish it but kind of gets me going.

</comment><comment><USER5> When im unmotivated, i just open some file, look around my code and somewhere i find something i really, really want to change/fix (i have tons of unfinished private projects). And thats my 'initial motivation'

</comment><comment><USER6> Make just some tiny edit or write one line of code. Tell yourself that you're just going to do this one line. It gets you over the initial resistance and usually I end up writing a lot more than I intended at first.

</comment><comment><USER7> The code doesn't matter. You have to want the end product. The reasons for wanting it are personal, but you have to want it.

<comment><USER8> This. Code is a (rather enjoyable for many people) means to an end.

</comment></comment><comment><USER9> Start with something easy and fun. Don't worry at all what it is. Give yourself time to build up momentum again.</comment>


It's not women who are the problem in tech land - <AUTHOR> http://www.cnet.com/news/women-arent-the-problem-in-tech-land/

<comment><USER2> "women need to work less, network more -- and demand the credit they believe they're due. "You have to be your own best salesman."

Well, looks like they are.</comment>


Share of young adults living with parents higher now than Great Depression - <AUTHOR> https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/09/09/coronavirus-share-of-young-adults-living-with-parents-higher-now-than-great-depression-pew-poll-finds/ <comment><USER2> The sq ft per person in the average US home during the Depression was about 200 to 250. The sq ft per person in the average US home in the 2010s was about 1000. Wake me when the sq ft per person returns to the 250 level. Most comparisons between the Great Depression and today are deeply flawed in one way or another.

Source: [https://247wallst.com/special-report/2016/05/25/the-size- of-...](https://247wallst.com/special-report/2016/05/25/the-size-of-a-home- the-year-you-were-born/11/)</comment>


Ask HN: Consciousness is _ and AI is _? and which one makes you happy? - <AUTHOR> hi everybody. I want to know your view about consciousness. so which answer do you think is most likely to be true and which one makes you happy. you can give your answer as a 1 to 10 digit number.
I think 0123456789 is true and 9876543210 makes me happy.
0. I don't know
1. doesn't exist, not possible
2. doesn't exist,     possible
3. non-physical , not conscious
4.     physical , not conscious
5. non-physical ,     conscious
6.     physical ,     conscious
7. non-physical , not possible
8.     physical , not possible
9. I don't care <comment><USER2> it's really 0 but i have suspicions that it is 3.

i think consciousness is like radio. you need the physical antenna to tune into it, eg. the brain. so 3, but there is still the need for the physical part to consciousness.

i don't think machines can tune into that and be conscious, they'll just emulate better and better.

</comment><comment><USER3> I don't understand the question about happiness, but I'm quite sure that consciousness is emergent phenomena (illusion mainly) of the various physical brain subsystems. AI, or rather these physical brain components are almost certainly emulatable in a computing device (to be read as, I estimate a high probability). How efficiently is the only remaining question.

Also, the way this is implemented in the brain is probably far from the most efficient way.

<comment><AUTHOR> so you prefer to call it a physical phenomena instead of saying it doesn't exist, right? if the universe can be described by motion of particle in a 3D space (let's forget about QM and GR) I prefer to say consciousness doesn't exist and to know that the universe doesn't care about us doesn't make me happy

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> human consciousness is not deterministic yet physical ai won't match the breadth of human ability unless it gives up on determinism. 0 makes me happy.</comment>


Launch HN: The Juggernaut (YC W19) – A Publication for the South Asian Diaspora - <AUTHOR> Hi HN! I'm Snigdha, founder of The Juggernaut (https://www.thejuggernaut.com), a subscription publication for the South Asian diaspora. We charge <$5/month for original stories on South Asia and its people. I'd love your feedback — new subscribers get a free week trial :)
I'm Indian-American and grew up in New York. Being Indian wasn't cool growing up. Western media mostly focused on South Asia's poverty (Slumdog Millionaire) or stereotypes (Apu, taxi drivers). That started to change as I grew older. I saw more South Asians in the news — from those in spelling bees, which I used to participate in, to presidential candidate Kamala Harris, to tech CEOs like Sundar Pichai and Satya Nadella. I realized I didn't know what was going on in the region or with South Asians nationally, let alone in my own city. My mom would forward me news on WhatsApp and I couldn't talk to her about it meaningfully. I also found that journalism was becoming targeted: The Athletic for Sports, The Infatuation for food, Blavity for black millennials. And I noticed that as China grew, publications started China sections and readers loved Bill Bishop's Sinocism, a newsletter with sharp China analysis. But there was no national, inclusive, well-reported publication for South Asians, the fastest growing demographic in the US and the largest diaspora in the world.
So, every weekend, I'd write a email newsletter (https://www.inkmango.com) linking to the best articles on South Asia(ns) with my thoughts on a pressing issue, from the Harvard affirmative action lawsuit to South Asian representation in Crazy Rich Asians. The newsletter grew to the thousands. After doing this for a few months, I realized linking to other publications wasn't enough. I was craving coverage I wasn't seeing. That's why I decided to figure out what it would take to start a new publication with our own reported stories. We called it The Juggernaut.
We are starting with one new story a weekday. Our stories have included profiles on South Asian founders, an interview with comedian Hari Kondabolu, an essay on the erasure of Freddie Mercury's brownness, and an exploration of the rise of the Subtle Curry Traits Facebook group.
Media is difficult. People like free content. We launched behind a paywall because it allows us to pay journalists well and quickly, and invest in better journalism. And paid doesn't mean exorbitant. I'd love to know — what publications do you read and why? What makes you want to pay for something? What pitfalls should we watch out for? Happy to answer any questions/comments; you can also email me at firstname.lastname@example.com. <comment><USER2> Hi Snigdha,

Congrats on the launch. As a member of the South Asian diaspora, I too enjoy seeing folks from my specific ethnic background succeeding in business, politics, and life. This is because I generally love seeing ambitious and conscious people from all walks succeed.

However, I am increasingly wary of balkanization of populations into disparate groups based on their ethnicity, culture, gender or sexuality. Identity politics is at an all time high, and it seems like these days, people identify themselves first as Black or Indian before they call themselves American or Australian (or going further, as a human or even as a conscious being). My gut feeling is that this is a negative trend and actually fractures our species into sub groups competing for scarce resources and attention.

My question to you is - how do we heal the divisions we have as humans, and solve complex world scale problems if we're too busy further dividing ourselves up via trivial lines in the sand, such as our skin color? Representation is great, but why does it matter if someone in a position of power has the same religion as you or has the same skin color? I personally believe quality of character and internal content matters more to kinship than a shared culture or physical qualities.

<comment><AUTHOR> That's a great question, and something we grapple with often at The Juggernaut — we want to heal divisions. But one of the things we've observed is that healing those divisions also comes with beginning to understand one's own heritage and feeling human again. (Some of our readers have mentioned how powerful it is for themselves to finally feel seen, which makes them feel more human.)

I would argue that more and more of us actually don't see ourselves as just Indian or American. More of us see ourselves as multidimensional and want to go deep on some of parts of our identity so that we can understand our place in the world as a global citizen.

Instead, we as humans need to challenge and celebrate our cultures and it's hard to undo or clear the slate of culture, too. Being South Asian does come with its own traumas — and every culture and group has this. By discussing this group's nuances, we hope to open it up to the world. We also have found several of our readers are not South Asian, and by reading The Juggernaut, they realize how alike we are, not how different. In that way, it's the opposite of balkanization.

I'd love to continue the conversation and figure out what stories you think we can cover that will help ensure we don't balkanize.

<comment><USER2> Thanks for the thoughtful response. I agree wholeheartedly with the thought the healing begins with self-understanding. There's a fantastic book about trauma called "The Body Keeps The Score" which explains how past traumas can be unconsciously embedded within the body in ways that talk therapy or pharmaceuticals cannot resolve alone. I bring this up because to your point, being without culture is similar to being disembodied and being traumatized - one needs to reclaim a sense of belonging our background so that one can feel at peace and resolved. For example, I strongly believe that years of slavery has left an indelible mark in African American culture, and we may not understand the scientific explanation until we further study epigenetics, etc.

My fear though is that this very real need to be seen, and heard is being coopted by factions trying to use that very real human need as fodder for power (hence the right's claims of "cultural Marxism").

The balance here lies in celebrating one's heritage, without using it as a token for victimization. Because we get nowhere by further victimizing others - eg. calling someone a colonizer or oppressor. Everyone has trauma, and healing begins with radical inclusion - of everyone. I think you have a huge potential for using The Juggernaut to take the greatest parts of South Asian heritage and sharing that with non South Asians. I think a great success example is western adoption of yoga and pranayama - these are tools that emerged from South Asian culture ages ago, that have a very real place and utility for anyone living in the modern era.

I'll send you a dm with my contact info so we can continue the conversation. Appreciate your openness!

<comment><USER3> >I bring this up because to your point, being without culture is similar to being disembodied and being traumatized - one needs to reclaim a sense of belonging our background so that one can feel at peace and resolved. For example, I strongly believe that years of slavery has left an indelible mark in African American culture, and we may not understand the scientific explanation until we further study epigenetics, etc.

I would be careful with this.

For context, I'm a third culture kid. I was born and raised in the Middle East, but my ethnicity is not Arab, and I don't have any claim to that area (not a citizen, need a visa to visit, etc). I came to and settled in the US. One of the nice things about the Middle East is that being a third culture kid is not unusual - it's full of them, from all over the world.

Now growing up and going to a school full of students from all over was one of the best things that ever happened to me. Any attempts at indoctrinating a superiority of one culture over others just couldn't stick. It was not a hypothetical discussion for me. I was interacting daily with people from all over, and I could see the flaws in the indoctrination. Even though I was part of an oppressed race with respect to the dominant one (Arab), there was no sense of inferiority. And much, much more importantly, being oppressed did _not_ push me to be close to the culture of my parent's origin, and that was a giant blessing. As such, many people throughout my life have accused me of being "without culture", because I don't identify with any of the "recognized" cultures. Some aspects I borrow from one culture, others from another, and so on - and quite a few do not come from any "recognized" culture.

Getting to your comment, when you say "being without culture", I suspect you have a fairly narrow concept of culture, akin to all those who accuse me (and my "kind") of being without culture. For too many people in the world, culture is almost always tied to either geography, race, or nationality. In reality, culture is a much broader concept. For many/most people, culture is inherently associated with race or geography. But ultimately, culture is about your set of values, rituals, how you view the world, etc. And increasingly in today's world, these are not coming from race. Being in a profession will likely affect your culture. Scientists, programmers, business people all have their own cultures that often set them apart from their fellow countrymen/race. And profession is but one example.

Like it or not, you set your own culture. Some of it just comes naturally from being in a particular society/race, but at the end of the day, it is your choice what aspects you make a part of your identity and what you do not. And the more you do this, the more likely it is that someone is going to label you as "without culture".

It took me many years before I understood the problems associated with being "denied a culture" (e.g. slavery as you mentioned). For a long time I was not very sympathetic to this aspect. Eventually, after much reading on it, I have reversed my position. The evidence is out there, and there is a lot of damage done at a societal level. Nevertheless, an African American who adopts the notion that he is incomplete from a cultural standpoint because of the history of slavery is contributing to his own suffering.

I have nothing against this publication, and if it helps people out, more power to it. I do wish more people would realize that creating an identity based on your race/parents' nationality is not a prerequisite for anything, and you can still be whole if you don't. The corollary is that if you feel something is missing, and you decide to pursue an identity based on race/ethnicity you may still end up less than whole. Don't assume this path is a solution to your needs.

No matter what anyone tells you, you do get to pick your identity. Don't let anyone convince you that you are incomplete if you are not in touch with your ancestral heritage.

Along these lines, I once attended a lecture by a researcher at a local university. I think his research was more on the biological side of the brain, but he frequently collaborated on the "softer" side (psychology, etc). He described one study that I wish I had the reference for. The participants were provided with this prompt: I am _____. They were free to fill in the blank in anyway that felt true for them. The upshot: People who felt part of an oppressed minority focused mostly on their race/gender/sexuality. People who did not feel oppressed wrote ordinary statements like "I am an honest person." Or "I am a loving father". The unfortunate side effect of this is that those in the former camp are much more likely to perceive a negative interaction as tied to race/gender, etc. I personally have experienced this: A friend of mine of the same race as me was "performance managed" and eventually fired. He swore, without any evidence, that the whole thing was racially motivated by his former manager, who came from a race that historically has had issues with his. Now this friend had a history of demonstrating an identity tied to his race, so his reaction did not surprise me at all. Two years later, the exact same thing happened to me: Performance managed for BS reasons, and eventually fired. And my manager was of the same race as his. But the notion that it was racially motivated was just ludicrous to me. If I listed attributes of bad managers, he satisfied most of them. It was trivial for me to explain it away as "crappy manager".

<comment><USER4> I agree with the views. Also, this dovetails into how people's nationality becomes a core part of their identity and how this is used by governments to ride the "patriotism" wave — often leading to cold wars and injustice against outsiders. The present "nation-first" campaigns by govts. across the globe is a prime example.

<comment><AUTHOR> Agree this is happening - really unfortunate when fear is twisted to harm others. But there's another side of nationalism and pride that is less dangerous and just one of many identities.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> Huge props to the founder and crazy story to share about Snigdha. For what its worth, I'm coming across this post randomly and happy to see it in HN.

The internet is very small.

I sat next to Snigdha on a plane once, coming back from a conference in 2013. At the time, she was working at one of the big four consulting firms and was sharing her passion for the Indian cultural market and it's untapped potential around the world. It's crazy to see her company five years later on the front page of HN.

I subscribed to the Inkmango newsletter a while ago and have been pleasantly surprised by the quality and richness as a non-South Asian reader.

The best way to describe this content is "the New Yorker for the South Asian Diaspora". It's been very educational to be aware of worlds soon-to-be 1.5 billion finds valuable.

<comment><AUTHOR> Lenny - so great to see you here at HN.

Thanks a ton for sharing your words — interesting perspective re: The New Yorker for South Asians. Especially since when I first met you six years ago, you were a senior engineer there. If we can consistently pull off that quality, I'm excited to reach an even bigger audience.

If you want to read the latest free newsletter Lenny mentioned, you can go here: [https://mailchi.mp/inkmango/our-weekly-roundup-pulwama- crisi...](https://mailchi.mp/inkmango/our-weekly-roundup-pulwama-crisis- continues)

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> I've been a subscriber to Snigdha's Inkmango newsletter ([https://www.inkmango.com](https://www.inkmango.com)) for many months — I look forward to it every Sunday. Even though I generally try to stay up on South Asian news, her newsletter always contains fascinating links/stories that I really enjoy — and wouldn't have seen otherwise. She's a fantastic curator and I'm excited to see she's launching original content.

I worked briefly in Indian media, at a magazine based in Delhi, and one takeaway was that there's unfortunately a paucity of well-reported, hard- hitting, speaking-truth-to-power journalism in India and South Asia more broadly. The mainstream papers and TV channels just don't do it. It's easy for Americans and Europeans to take the presence of publications like the New York Times for granted, because that level of journalistic quality and resource doesn't exist in much of South Asia. It's especially unfortunate because many of the countries are on a march towards nationalism (India being the most obvious example). Great journalism is so crucial in such a vibrant, important, rapidly-changing region of the world. Hopefully The Juggernaut and projects like it can help raise global awareness about the injustices happening in South Asia — I wish them good luck and I'll be reading!

<comment><USER7> For reference, this is the sort of thing Ajay is talking about:

[https://thewire.in/media/cobrapost-sting-dainik-bartoman- dai...](https://thewire.in/media/cobrapost-sting-dainik-bartoman-dainik- sambad)

[https://scroll.in/article/880384/cobrapost-expose-shows- indi...](https://scroll.in/article/880384/cobrapost-expose-shows-indian-media- is-sinking-now-we-can-fight-back-or-be-drowned-for-good)

</comment></comment><comment><USER8> TIL. " _The English loanword juggernaut in the sense of "a huge wagon bearing an image of a Hindu god" is from the 17th century, inspired by the Jagannatha Temple in Puri, Odisha_"

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut)

<comment><AUTHOR> Ha - yes. Also have you seen this 1865 news article from the New York Times about The Tenth Avenue Juggernaut? [https://www.nytimes.com/1865/03/26/archives/the- tenthavenue-...](https://www.nytimes.com/1865/03/26/archives/the-tenthavenue- juggernaut.html)

</comment></comment><comment><USER9> Good luck Snigdha - I sincerely hope you are successful with this.

However, I feel more and more now, as Pakistani, the term 'South Asia' is coming to mean 'South Asia minus Pakistan'.

Till not too long ago, it was Indians trying their best to loop in Pakistan into any mutual association but not, it seems India, Bangladesh and Afghanistan are leaving no stone unturned trying to disassociate with Pakistan (only exception is the entertainment industry where for some reason, association with Pakistan is more than welcome).

All in all, why am I telling you this? Because you can help us Pakistanis by bringing to highlight via your platform that Pakistan's 'positive' role in South Asia is beyond just music, sufis and food -- we also have worthy Pakistani-origin Business folks, scientists and academics.

Thank you.

<comment><AUTHOR> For us, South Asia definitely includes Pakistan. We have a beautiful story on Pakistani car decals coming up — can't wait for you to read it. All of these cultures, identities, stories have lots of complexity. We hope we can do justice to them. Please do feel free to email me at email@example.com with more Pakistani stories and pitches, specifically on the individuals you mention that you've admired.

</comment></comment><comment><USER10> Congrats Snigdha!

PS - for anyone wondering why "Juggernaut", I'd guess it has something to do with being a sanskrit derived word. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut)

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks so much. Yes - great link out. We aren't just the Marvel character :) We want to reclaim the word and use 'juggernaut' to describe "an unstoppable force" (not necessarily one that crushes)

</comment></comment><comment><USER11> Subscribed super fast! One piece of feedback: I'd love to learn about new stories as they come in via a Twitter account (I'm less likely to open them via email but if they're in my Twitter feed I'll almost always)

<comment><AUTHOR> That's a great idea — we currently send out a email notification, instagram update, and twitter notification every afternoon after we've published a new piece. Our twitter is @bethejuggernaut and our instagram is @_thejuggernaut. Thanks so much for signing up - can't wait to hear what you think!

</comment></comment><comment><USER12> Something on similar lines is [https://www.thebetterindia.com/](https://www.thebetterindia.com/). It has positive stories , though based out of India only.

</comment><comment><USER13> While it is an interesting endeavor, two things come to my mind:

Especially with respect to South Asia, there is a tendency to pusstfoot over matters, which while being very important, are also very nuanced. For example: caste, it is a complex phenomenon that still deeply affects people, yet many treatments try to air brush it away.

Also it is an extremely diverse region, whereas it get often portrayed as a largely homogeneous monoculture, when in fact it isn't.

<comment><USER14> Probably one reason for the diaspora in the first place?

<comment><AUTHOR> Say more?

<comment><USER14> Oh, I just had the thought that people who are discriminated by the caste system would rather live somewhere else.

<comment><AUTHOR> Oh yes - definitely related. And I would also say, sometimes those benefiting from it were able to leave, too

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> I subscribed and am excited about it.

I have a little gripe about the name, the name Juggernaut. Juggernaut is already an Indian company that sells books written by home authors to people to read on their phones.

[https://www.juggernaut.in/](https://www.juggernaut.in/)

They are fairly successful. Naming two things Indian the juggernaut

</comment><comment><USER16> Personally I do feel that there is a huge and urgent need for something like this to support and share the stories of the Indian subcontinent and its diaspora in the US and elsewhere. So, in one respect I wish the founder all the success.

However, a quick glance unfortunately leads me to believe that it is going to tow the same blatantly anti-Indian bias that most, if not all, of the Western media such as NYTimes, WaPo, Economist and others possess.

For example, while the little blurb in the inkmango newsletter on Pulwama and subsequent events ([https://mailchi.mp/inkmango/our-weekly-roundup-pulwama- crisi...](https://mailchi.mp/inkmango/our-weekly-roundup-pulwama-crisis- continues)) seems perfectly neutral and acceptable, I was rather disheartened when I saw that while CNBC and Economist were linked by their brands, "Arundhati Roy", and her vitriolic anti-Indian article was referred to by name in the link to HuffPo.

While the editor is free to take whatever approach they want to take, they will need to decide who the target audience is and whose voice does the Juggernaut wants to be.

<comment><AUTHOR> Hi - we're not trying to be just anti-India or anti-Pakistan, nor just pro- India or pro-Pakistan. We're trying to encompass a wide range of views. One of the reasons we linked to that article is so that our readers could read multiple viewpoints and form conclusions of their own, especially since it is a sensitive topic. Our target audience is anyone who wishes to be informed and inspired by South Asian stories — and the complexity with which they come.

<comment><USER16> I understand and I do not want you to be pro-any-country. I will appreciate it if you are indeed neutral. And, linking to HuffPo article is just fine.

I was calling out to the fact that the links are posted as: _(Economist, CNBC, Arundhati Roy in HuffPo)_ instead of just _(Economist, CNBC, HuffPo)_ which implies that you're giving special credence to Ms. Roy who is not a neutral reporter in any meaning of the word. Which, in turn, leads me to be a little cognizant of your biases.

<comment><AUTHOR> Great feedback - we will definitely be more neutral in linking out in the future

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><AUTHOR> Also - if anyone does want to work with us on our design and codebase for the month of March in SF (in person), happy to chat. Email me at email@example.com.

</comment><comment><USER17> All the best for your launch. The website has too little information to be interesting. In 2019, your content has to be influential or free.

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks Rushabh - do check out our articles tab, which has a lot more information (www.thejuggernaut.com/articles). Say more about what you mean by influential? And tell me more about why you think it should be free?

Recently, the likes of BuzzFeed and HuffPo have all been having layoffs because the ad model has become broken in media. What other business models have you seen that you find interesting?

<comment><USER17> I work in open source, which is also kind of in a similar problem. A way to think of open source is that its a utility, like the highway system. The people who make money from highways are the car companies.

I think a similar challenge exists with journalism. Writing and publishing has become so cheap and I can easily fill my time with reading reasonably good content on free blogs or Medium that paying a tiny publication may not be a good idea. (I already subscribe to newspapers and Economist)

If you have exclusive content, then you can charge for it. [https://the- ken.com/](https://the-ken.com/) is a good example of a small publication that has done well as it focuses on a niche, early adopter community.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER18> Congrats for the launch Snigdha. Hoping to be a contributor to your magazine some day. :)

Good Luck.

<comment><AUTHOR> Definitely! Pitch us at firstname.lastname@example.com - we'd love to help refine pitches!

</comment></comment><comment><USER19> This site has no focus. What is the point of yet another feel good site, that ultimately wants to make money by selling their view of "south asia" ?

<comment><AUTHOR> Hi — can you tell me more — what would add more focus to this site for you?

Our mission is to tell untold South Asian stories, not just positive or feel- good ones. Some of what we write actually challenge existing theories, for example: is Netflix actually changing storytelling in India? Did Bohemian Rhapsody tell Freddie Mercury's story well? What does Hari Kondabolu have to say about a post-Apu world?

We're not selling our specific views of South Asia but rather soliciting stories from our writers and audience and sharing multi-faceted views. We welcome stories from all political views and walks of life. We started with a paywall to be able to pay our journalists well.

<comment><USER19> India has a very vibrant media industry. I might say that Indian media is perhaps the most liberal and open media, in the world. For example, there are more than five, 24x7 TV news channels in Tamil language alone. Most of the news that I see in English langauge outside of India, is mostly feel good or negative. But both do not represent the reality.

Having said that, if you do anything for money, it is quite easy to become corrupt. Take google for example, they used to say things such as "don't be evil" etc. But, since they are a for profit business, it is just pure talk.

The point is, knowledge and health cannot be and should not be offered for the exchange of money. if you truly believe in your mission, keep the good work and request people to donate. If your work is really good, you will never have trouble with your expenses.

<comment><AUTHOR> I think it's hard to actually pay journalists well and run a business predictably when we just hope people will donate though I do think the membership puzzle project is doing good work and a few businesses have made this work. This is definitely a model for us to consider!

The people who pay us now do believe we're doing good work. I have been paying for books and health since I have been little and I do think both allow me to support great writers and health practitioners to be better at what they do. That said I do believe everyone should have a right to access information and health and one day we'll be able to accommodate that business model. Right now all our revenue goes directly to our journalists.

<comment><USER19> All media houses have great intention in the beginning. But the moment money enters, corruption also enters. Today we can confidently say that none of the media is neutral or fair. Everyone is working for someone else, indirectly become propaganda machines.

There are two ways you can avoid that.

1) keep the media 100% free. Only get money from individual charities. And publish who gives the money.

2) if you want run a for profit org, publish all finances such as who is sponsoring what articles. At least the reader will know the motivation behind it.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER20> Ah, so a successor to Sepia Mutiny?

<comment><AUTHOR> Yes! Apt reference. We also have Lakshmi Gandhi, former member/writer for Sepia Mutiny, writing a few stories — coming soon!

</comment></comment><comment><USER21> Congrats on the launch! :)

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks so much! :)

</comment></comment><comment><USER22> I've checked the site. I was expecting something highly interesting due to the subject, and, the YC support. A magazine startup, ohyeah!!!

I couldn't spend more than two seconds on it. I'm a designer and my eyes can't stand this type of design: cheap, unreadable, probably a quickly modified free template.

I detest this trend. There are more and more startups with worse and worse cheap web design. How do you think you compete to our attention?

Especially true in this case, when the product is the content itself. Put together a few thousands, hire a proper designer.

<comment><AUTHOR> What would you change about the design? I'd love to hear the specifics! You can email me at email@example.com and if you do do design, happy to figure out if we can work together.

To get a better sense of our stories, you can visit thejuggernaut.com/articles, which I think is far better designed. We're working on changing our landing page right now and our site is definitely a work in progress.

As per YC tradition, we wanted to launch early rather than get it perfect. We've also heard that if we're not embarrassed by what we've built, we've launched too late.

Our product at the end of the day isn't just the site (though it is part of it), it's the journalism. And we don't compromise on that. Do read a few of our stories there — I'd love to know what you think.

<comment><USER23> > What would you change about the design? I'd love to hear the specifics!

Just stopping by to say that I think you're replying in exactly the right way to criticism, and I hope you / the company embeds this in your company culture, which no doubt will face all kinds of criticism from many directions.

Good luck!

<comment><AUTHOR> Thanks for dropping by! And definitely: our goal is to keep improving and company culture is very important to us. Some of our harshest critics will give us the best feedback and we have to be prepared for that, too.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER24> It is concerning that is another cause of a culture vulture trying to make a quick buck off of "South Asian" culture. You are no different than the western imperialist who has done this to the sub continent in the past or those exporting yoga to the west.

<comment><AUTHOR> Hi - so that we can improve our messaging, what about our mission or our voice makes you feel like we're trying to make a quick buck? One of the reasons we started behind a paywall is to actually not be quick in any way. We want to provide nuanced, thoughtful analysis. We started with a paywall so we could pay our journalists well and not be incentivized by clickbait. Charging a subscription allows us to be a more sustainable business and not just be a 'quick buck' scheme. What other business models have you seen working?

</comment></comment><comment><USER25> Why do you call it the diaspora? Doesn't that imply forced removal from homeland? What about those that opted out of their old country and voluntarily wanted to come to America.

Would you consider white Americans to be part of the European diaspora!?? This just screams victim mentality and seems to be an over extension of the YC organization to capture mindshare and influence people like Pichai and Nadella who I have an issue with leading 2 prominent tech companies.

Don't even get me started on how the Indian caste system is invading traditional American values.

<comment><AUTHOR> Hi - so I don't think diaspora always means forced removal. The word has a very strong history but it can also mean people living away from their homeland, whether voluntary or involuntary. Check out this definition here [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diaspora](https://www.merriam- webster.com/dictionary/diaspora). Totally don't intend to mean victim mentality here!</comment></comment>


Traffic Vis: Traffic Theory Explained Visually - <AUTHOR> https://trafficvis.com/construction-zone <comment><USER2> there doesn't seem to be anything on this page to explain traffic theory verbally or written, and without that the visual aspect is useless.

unless maybe the full page isn't loading for me?

I'm on latest version of chrome on a mac

<comment><USER3> You can get a verbal explanation by toggling "show video" at the top.

<comment><USER4> After about two seconds of video the page turns all white. Not sure what's up with the page, maybe they're triggering my ad blocker (Firefox Tracking Protection + uBlock Origin)?

<comment><USER5> I ran into that problem, so I refreshed it worked through the whole video.

<comment><USER6> Keeps whiting out for me. iOS Safari + 1Block

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> reminds me of [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21278705](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21278705)

</comment><comment><USER8> [https://traffic-simulation.de/routing.html](https://traffic- simulation.de/routing.html)

</comment><comment><USER9> Warning: This page crashed Chrome on my android phone.</comment>


It is with sadness that we announce the upcoming end of Elite Dangerous on Mac - <AUTHOR> https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/424243-Important-Mac-announcement <comment><USER2> All hail bootcamp then..</comment>