When does white space matter in HTML? (2016) - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/@patrickbrosset/when-does-white-space-matter-in-html-b90e8a7cdd33 <comment><USER2> Funnny how I hesitated clicking the link because part of my brain insisted that whitespace in HTML was "boring". Not worth of consideration. I'm glad I did click in the end becaus this article summarily answered a host of questions I'd collected over the years. I have a much clearer model now.

</comment><comment><USER3> Who actually thought rendering the white space between inline-block elements was a good idea in the first place?

Seriously, I genuinely cannot see a use case where this setup would make things better, and it's quite clear that in 95% of them it just makes things harder for web developers. Pretty much no one uses this to align anything, and any use cases I can see could be done better with margins.

Just ignore the spaces between inline-block elements and instruct browsers to strip them out.

<comment><USER4> They're elements that appear as inline to their surroundings, and blocks to their contents. In what way wouldn't you want it to render white space in the same way as other inline elements?

If you're misusing inline-block for generic layout then you really should be looking at Flexbox and not trying to neuter the intended behaviour.

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> It doesn't matter, but couldn't help but notice that the honorable form feed (U+000C) was missing from the definition given. [https://infra.spec.whatwg.org/#ascii- whitespace](https://infra.spec.whatwg.org/#ascii-whitespace) is the concept used in the HTML parser. ([https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/parsing.html](https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/parsing.html))

</comment><comment><USER6> I just hate when the web browsers renders differently depending on if you have a line break between certain elements. Line breaks in HTML source code should not matter!

<comment><USER7> >Line breaks in HTML source code should not matter!

So, should you put spaces at the end, or at the beginning of lines in text that's broken into multiple lines?

</comment></comment><comment><USER8> As of 2018 there is no neat helpful way of resolving white space problems that I know of in Chrome devtools. I wish there was as I can remember trying to get the white space removed from a search box and the search submit button, almost getting into the realms of hacky negative margin things before the penny dropped that it was the white space problem that I had known since the IE6 days.

If using code to generate HTML then you can remove white space with Google's mod_pagespeed. This will only remove a certain amount and what remains either 'doesn't matter' or is something that needs fixing in templates.

I doubt there is a performance penalty for excessive white space but it is satisfying to be able to 'view source' for the document to be pretty printed with the exception of indentation. In my opinion source documents should be neat, otherwise might aw well just give up on HTML and go for some byte code HEX digit stream in a non-human-readable format.

</comment><comment><USER9> Also fun: whitespace after </body></comment>


Don Dodge hired by Google - <AUTHOR> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/15/microsofts-loss-googles-gain-don-dodge-gets-a-new-job/

<comment><AUTHOR> Congratulations!

Everybody seemed bumed from <http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=922344>, but it looks like Don is in a better place. Google certainly meshes better with the YC hacker/startup scene than Microsoft; I'd expect Don's job to be a tad easier.

<comment><USER2> I certainly wouldn't see either google or microsoft as 'meshing better with the YC hacker/startup scene', they're both very large companies, with all the downsides that brings.

<comment><USER3> Oh, I think you're way off base on that. Google is far more congruent with the startup community than MS is. Just to mention one example, look at the differences in how they relate to open source (and the web itself for that matter). No doubt much of this relates to their origins. Google is the very prototype of the hacker startup that goes all the way.

Google's large-company-ness no doubt slows it down in a zillion ways, but there are still profound differences here (just as I'm sure there are between MS and, say, Oracle).

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> I wonder if Google has a hit list of people to immediately hire should they leave their currently tenured job posting. It seems like it would be quite strategic to hire away top execs from a direct competitor like Microsoft. I can almost picture Ballmer throwing more chairs...

</comment><comment><USER5> Neat!

I wonder if he had to do a bunch of quiz answers first, though.

</comment><comment><USER6> I liked how in the TC interview a couple of weeks ago, Don said that though he believes in Microsoft, he can believe in more than one company. He has a very interesting and well-thought-out business philosophy. I think he'll do well at Google.

</comment><comment><USER7> Note to Microsoft: when a top-tier competitor snaps up your recently discarded "trash" employees, perhaps that's a prime indication you made a mistake.

I don't know what's going on with the top leadership at MS but there doesn't appear to be much. They've done some good technical work (Win7 for example), but they keep making huge missteps. Windows Mobile is a train wreck. Bing was a step in the right direction, away from the horrific Live search, but MS has already started patting themselves on the back instead of buckling down for the remaining hard work it'll take for them to make bing better than google. MS is quietly bumbling into becoming a dilbert company, if they continue on this path at some point they will hemorrhage talent at an unsustainable rate and find themselves a company of increasingly diminishing relevance and prospects.

<comment><USER8> _...perhaps that's a prime indication you made a mistake._

Or it's an indication that your competitor wants everyone else to think you made a mistake... And that they want you to make each future employment decision based not only on its good for the company but also on how it looks in the press. Either way, a smart move by Google.

<comment><USER9> Google does not strike me as the kind of company where hiring decisions are made on anything other than the merits. Just try interviewing there if you want to see for yourself.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER10> Way to go Don!

</comment><comment><USER11> HA!

</comment><comment><USER12> I think Google is a better place for people who can think out-of-the-box.</comment>


World Health Organization spends more on travel than AIDS - <AUTHOR> https://www.apnews.com/1cf4791dc5c14b9299e0f532c75f63b2/AP-Exclusive:-Health-agency-spends-more-on-travel-than-AIDS <comment><USER2> And is the WHO primarily an aid agency, where very high travel costs would be a problem, or is it primarily a coordination body, where high travel costs would be the point? The article is just missing this piece of information how is the WHO supposed to work. (Next exercise for journalists, supposed according to the people who founded it, not supposed according to the guy who writes about it.)

More concretely, if the primary mission is getting high level officials into one room to talk about malaria, AIDS, etc. then travel expenses is precisely what the WHO is designed to do. If the WHO is designed to ship medication to third world countries, then it may be, that the WHO is doing it wrong. However travel into third world countries is expensive, you need to rent a car, hire translators, get equipment that can keep vaccines cool during transport, etc. It may be that these expenses are billed as travel expenses and only the actual vaccine is billed as cost of malaria. In that case the travel expenses should raise an eyebrow, but is still only some indication that something may either be wrong or the accounting is not optimal for PR purposes.

Actually that is a argument I notice too often, X should work like this and they're doing it wrong, according to the author, and when one looks into the matter a little bit, then it turns out that the organization in question has very good reasons to not work like this.

<comment><USER3> Another expense in areas with ongoing humanitarian crises or less stable government institutions is security. It tends to be expensive.

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> Because the WHO is part of the United Nations, it operates primarily in diplomatic circles. This means protocols matter. For example, when negotiating with local officials on the ground, the political implications for the local officials are different if the party with whom they are negotiating arrives in a limousine from a top hotel or arrives by bus from the Motel6. One allows the local official to present the negotiated result as a compromise between equals, the other may provide an opportunity for political opponents to cast compromises and concessions or just plain reasonableness by the local official as weakness.

The WHO has a unique _political_ capability in regard to reaching consensus on international health policies. It is better equipped to get political commitments from local political leaders when it comes to issues like getting medical supplies across the borders of a dozen countries. In no small part this is because the WHO provides the cover of legitimacy for local political leaders. And with no doubt part of that legitimacy comes from the WHO's ability to project an image of power...it is backed up by UN peace keeping policies. As with diplomacy in general, the WHO travel budget is cheaper than military deployment.

<comment><USER4> I don't buy this, it still sounds like hypocrisy. The power of WHO (and UN) doesn't come from their image, but from the fact that they are backed by the mightiest nations on Earth. I'm sure WHO representatives would be taken seriously by some local bureaucrats even if arrived to the meeting on bicycles.

<comment><USER3> There are several aspects of what I described that do not align with the way I would like the world to work and would prefer if alternative methods were practical. In the world of politics and diplomacy, I don't think they are because politics and diplomacy require engagement with actors who are not driven by scientific methods, generally praised moral theories, or a strong sense empathy or who simply cannot do positive things without first caring for their political survival.

The WHO has the political ability to operate at the ministerial and executive level above regular bureaucracy. A technocrat may not care if a senior WHO official arrives on a bicycle, but the WHO does not always deal with technocrats and a meeting planned with a technocrat may turn out to be a meeting with a politician as well or instead.

That's part of why protocols matter for the WHO more than for Médecins Sans Frontières. Protocols also matter more for the WHO because its primary role is at the diplomatic level even during an emergency. During the same emergency, Médecins Sans Frontières primary mission is on the ground delivering services at the endpoint.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER5> Does the WHO buy most of the vaccines and treatments, or most of the countries buy their own doses?

This looks like a true but misleading title, like "The United Nations Security Council spends more in coffee than in tanks, battleships and bombers combined"

<comment><USER6> The WHO isn't a direct aid organization.

It's a political organization it defines policies and helps to execute and oversee them.

If say a country needs vaccines the WHO can help them secure funding usually through the world bank or other financial institutions as well as potentially better prices by facilitating deals with the drug companies directly.

People think that the WHO is the red cross or Doctors Without Borders or the UNHCR.

But in its mandate and in practice it's more closer to the IAEA and other similar UN organizations.

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> I think these kind of comparisons are a little miss guided.

WHO is a world organization, so by definition they have to travel the world. Every time you get in a plane, car, or train, that costs. On top of that, a lot of their work has to be done in person. You can't test a local population in Africa for a specific strain of ebola in a lab in North America. A team has to be sent to do that work and exfiltrate samples. Also, there often has to be a person on the ground directing. If I'm working with a warlord to ensure the safe movement of medical supplies, that's better done in person.

I can do all the AIDS, TB and malaria research I want in a lab. We have samples that were previously taken and can be mailed. I can share my findings with people on the other side of the world with the help of the internet.

To top my argument off, even if you could reduce spending on travel, that doesn't directly translate into more effective fighting of AIDS, TB, or malaria. Many of the people that are able to do the most effective work in these fields are already doing so. Just throwing more money in the pot doesn't necessarily speed up the process. And not to get political, but if you want to look at allocations of money for medical research, look at the _HUGE_ cuts that are about to happen at the National Institute of Health.

<comment><USER4> I think you've missed the point here. It's not against traveling, but traveling in first/business class. Most other similar charities have explicit decree that forbids traveling first/business class and mandates even the highest ranking officials to travel economy class.

<comment><USER8> Having always flown economy I recently took advantage of a cheap, domestic upgrade to business class. I had to work while on the plane and I was noticeably more productive on the flight and less fatigued than I normally would be in economy. So I think there is an argument to be made for the following categories of trips to be a step above economy:

* when the traveller is expected to get work done on the flight * when the time at the destination is short (1-3 days) and is densely packed * when the traveller is moving immediately from flying to being productive on the ground

Otherwise after flying economy it would only take a good, relaxed meal and/or a 20 minute catnap to bring me to post-business class levels of productivity.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> >Three sources who asked not to be identified for fear of losing their jobs told the AP that Chan often flew in first class.

I have no problem with this. There are many reasons why the Director General should fly first class. For one, she is a very public figure and I imagine first class will offer a bit more privacy.

Second, to attract the best, you sometimes need to provide the best. Unfortunately not everyone is 100% altruistic, so perks such as first class travel might help to persuade some people. I get into this discussion every time the compensation of my provincial health CEO is brought up (Alberta Health Services CEO). People complain that she makes more than $500k per year. They assume that people working for the public shouldn't make that amount. They seem to forget that she is responsible for an organization with 110,000 employees and a budget of $21.4 billion. That carries a ton of responsibility.

</comment><comment><USER10> Just to be clear, they spend $200MM on travel for 7000 people a year, that's ~$75/day/person.

</comment><comment><USER11> It's like this at the world bank and IMF as well.

Their senior staff travel like royalty in first class and often their fancy luggage is also paid for.

There's no doubt that these organizations like the WHO do a lot of good. But the perception of this definitely does hurt them when they want to get more funds.

</comment><comment><USER12> " _Dr. Bruce Aylward, who directed WHO's outbreak response, racked up nearly $400,000 in travel expenses during the Ebola crisis, sometimes flying by helicopter to visit clinics instead of traveling by jeep over muddy roads, according to internal trip reports he filed._ "

If he needs to visit more than one site per day, the jeep is provably not workable. The next article we're likely to see is one saying the WHO had dropped off equipment and then left the locals with no instructions or coordination for weeks.

<comment><USER13> Also these are not safe areas. If you drive by road you will get stopped by bandits. It's certainly happened to me.

</comment></comment><comment><USER14> I had the chance to briefly meet (22 years ago) an Harvard Teacher who was also involved in AIDS research with UN.

He was going to go to Nepal to meet local doctors and authorities.

He had to "fight" to get a normal airplane ticket instead of the first class his organization was ready to pay him.

Because the first class ticket was more expensive than the Nepal AIDS fighting year budget...</comment>


Ask HN: Why do dev communities still use mailing lists? - <AUTHOR> Just wondering, as I see this all the time. <comment><USER2> Because it's a push rather than a pull medium (you don't have to remember to check it) but asynchronous (you don't have to check it immediately). And one that everyone already has access to (you don't have to create Yet Another Account on Yet Another Service to keep up with questions, answers, and new development).

</comment><comment><USER3> I understand what you mean and I fell the same that malling list is just not that pleasing and feels old, but nothing have solved it yet. Discourse is on the way, but still a bit difficult to host yourself and hosted to expensive.

</comment><comment><USER4> Because mailing lists are _simple_ and modern webapps are _easy_.

</comment><comment><USER5> Because they work and have worked for ever.. same with IRC.

Also, not needing to create yet another account is a big plus

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> Why not GitHub issues? No this is not a satirical question.

</comment><comment><USER6> Why not?

<comment><USER7> Because nowadays there are tools just to make sure the tools are making the tools that monitor the tools are monitoring the tools correctly.

In short: there's a web app for seemingly everything nowadays, but devs stick to mailing lists. In my opinion, mailing lists are very old school, not the easiest to wade/search through and most new programmers are baffled by them (or at least by how to post to them).

You could argue, though, that most new people just use things like StackOverflow nowadays...

<comment><USER8> _most new programmers are baffled by them (or at least by how to post to them)._

That may not be a bug.

<comment><USER7> Then new programmers will stick to stack overflow and the likes, and mailing lists will slowly decline. Not a bad thing in my opinion as I'm not a mailing list fan (as is obvious from my first reply).

<comment><USER8> StackOverflow is better suited to teach new programmers the ways of the world than a stable open source project with a small team of core developers volunteering their time.

To put it another way, good open source projects are good often because the team is experienced and focused.</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


Dear arrington, I'm Paul Judge.  I'm an entrepreneur. I'm black. - <AUTHOR> http://pjudge.com/letter.jpg

<comment><USER2> Lol...nice one. Not nearly as successful as Paul but if Mike is reading this, you can make it two black tech entrepreneurs you now know: <http://www.phyzixlabs.com/>.

</comment><comment><USER3> Really nice one guys! I'm not a entrepreneur yet but I am a Software Engineer and a recent College Grad. At the same time I'm in the process of discussing a new Hacker Space Venture with other Black Software Engineer. So you now know three black tech's in which one is not as successful as the first two nor an entrepreneur but a successful engineer and on the rise.....</comment>


China's Digitization Endeavors: National Blockchain Platform to Go Live in April - <AUTHOR> https://forklog.media/chinas-digitization-endeavors-continue-national-blockchain-platform-to-go-live-in-april/ <comment><USER2> Of course the CCP would prioritize a technology that gives it even greater observatory and regulatory powers. The article even mentions changes to the protocol to prohibit "unauthorized" users from viewing transaction histories and such.

</comment><comment><USER3> watched the white paper, [https://www.bsnbase.com/sys/file/downLoadPdf?type=CN](https://www.bsnbase.com/sys/file/downLoadPdf?type=CN) they thorwed a Permissionless Blockchains, that service permission chain architecture does not have the characteristics of complete decentralization, transparency, and privacy. All business attributes are formulated by the application owner. Users must obtain the approval of the application owner before they can join the application.

</comment><comment><USER4> It seems The future has arrived, and now it is on a forced march to reach us all

</comment><comment><USER5> The article itself is a bit scant on details. Can someone who knows More about what their goal is provide more details?</comment>


How to cure your Asthma or hay-fever using hookworm. - <AUTHOR> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2006/4/30/91945/8971

<comment><USER2> "I became infested almost immediately, it must have been either the first or second day I spent walking barefoot through the latrines. When one thinks of it this was an enormous piece of luck"

Wow - what a glass half-full outlook :-)

</comment><comment><USER3> The guy wrote a follow-up piece last year: <http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2009/3/16/3408/66053>

</comment><comment><USER4> Ok, i'm thoroughly disgusted. How bad does your asthma have to be in order to resort to parasitic infection as a cure? I hate my hayfever, but you can count me out for this remedy.

<comment><USER5> Not wishing you that, but I'd bet your disgust would disappear if your hay fever got worse to the point of keeping you out for a entire season.

It's all about one's perception of how bad it is. Think of fashion models that ingest similar parasites so they can lose weight. Having a parasite is bad? It's even worse to not have a job.

What about people that smoke in order to eat less? Can you think of a better example of choosing the lesser of two (perceived) evils?

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> Here's the Wikipedia link on the general subject:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy>

I don't have any of those diseases, so I've had no occasion to try it.

</comment><comment><USER7> The "Parasites" episode of Radio Lab discusses the story of another person who did the same thing. <http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/episodes/2009/09/25>

<comment><USER8> This was an excellent episode of a great show. Highly recommended listening.

</comment></comment><comment><USER9> There are a couple of factual errors in the story. The worms live in the small intestine. (Think about the name, _Ancylostoma duodenale_ ) The third-stage larva is infective, not the first or second.

Hookworm infestation causes anemia, lethargy, and malabsorption, so definitely use with caution. It is probably best to use some sort of defined protocol so that you have a small number of worms without the risk of massive infestation.

</comment><comment><USER10> I'd love to do this (I get super-bad hay fever), but dude's charging $3000 bucks, which seems pretty steep to pay for a disgusting worm with an uncertain outcome. Anyone know a cheaper source? (I was thinking a farm, but apparently the hookworms animals get and the hookworms humans get aren't the same.)

<comment><USER11> I have a family member with colitis. In the US, there are treatments available that use hookworms and are regulated, and hopefully safer than the option described above. So before you going tramping off to some African open-air latrine (assuming you don't live in Africa already), I would ask a doctor specifically about helminthic therapy and see what s/he can do for you.

<comment><USER10> Well, thanks for the advice -- but everyone says, "see a doctor!"

I just want the cheap, infect-yourself-with-worms,see-what-happens,-no-drs- required method.

(Haven't found previous visits to allergy doctors to be helpful. I'm sure there are helpful doctors out there, but how do you find them?)

<comment><USER11> I would put in a call to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota. They are often on the bleeding edge of treatments, and might be able to refer you to someone in your own hood who can help you out.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> For a few years, I had some pretty severe hayfever in the early springtime, but this year there's been almost nothing. I attribute the difference to diet changes reducing the inflammatory reactions.

Of course, that's probably not enough for all sufferers.

</comment><comment><USER13> As someone with really bad asthma, who coughs constantly when speaking to clients and thankfully works from home and uses a mute during coughs on Skype, this study is fascinating and I hope something comes of it for a vaccine.

</comment><comment><USER14> I don't even want to read past the intro. I'll stick with cleaning up my diet and home environment and using alternative remedies to get better, thanks.

(No, I don't have asthma, though I was misdiagnosed with it at one point. I do have "atypical cystic fibrosis" and there is a lot of overlap in treatments between the two things.)

EDIT: Since I have been downvoted, let me clarify: I frequently get strong negative reactions on health discussion lists for the "extremes" to which I have gone to get well, extremes which freak out a lot of other people. To my mind, my choices have been pretty conservative compared to this. I don't keep my health situation a secret here but there is no real reason most folks here would have much context. <shrug>

Carry on.

<comment><USER15> I'll venture a guess that most people have already tried that before they resort to infecting themselves with hookworm.

<comment><USER14> I'll bet you back that very few people are willing to go as far as I have in that regard. I live without a car, I sleep on the floor, we wash clothes by hand (after having dismantled and trashed our washer and dryer) and dry them on a rack in front of a fan, cook a lot from scratch with specially selected and carefully researched ingredients, have been creating our own recipes to accommodate the need to cook with special ingredients, and own next to nothing, not even towels. I know thousands of people on some lists I belong to who have tried various diets and worked on cleaning up their homes/lifestyles. I am still considered a "freak" and my presence is barely tolerated (or sometimes not tolerated -- I've been thrown off a couple of lists).

Peace.

<comment><USER16> Can't you create a novelty account on Reddit and do an Iama?

<comment><USER14> Serious question: Why do you think I should?

<comment><USER16> I'm curious about your lifestyle and can imagine others wanting to know more as well.</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment>


The Mega-Tsunami of July 9, 1958 in Lituya Bay, Alaska (1999) - <AUTHOR> http://www.drgeorgepc.com/Tsunami1958LituyaB.html <comment><USER2> My grandmother told me about this earthquake/tsunami when I was trying to learn everything I could about my grandfather before he died. At that time he was a navy pilot flying missions in the bearing strait, and she was living on a small airstrip somewhere on the Alaskan coast with their three babies. The earthquake hit in the evening and the buildings had no foundation, so they slid around a bit, but mostly everybody just went to sleep. A couple of the CPOs were frantic and spent the night chaining the barracks to ground anchors. The water came in silently and floated the barracks, then left with most of the sailors sleeping through it. In the morning, many of the buildings that weren't anchored had been swept out to sea.

<comment><USER3> I think that you may be thinking of The Great Alaska Earthquake of 1964 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Alaska_earthquake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Alaska_earthquake)).

As far as I know the 1958 earthquake barely gets a historical mention unless it is to talk about the Lituya Bay incident.

The 1964 quake was extremely destructive and caused tidal waves that destroyed towns like Cordova and Valdez. These were "normal" sized tidal waves, not 1700 ft monsters like Lituya Bay.

As a relevant anecdote, my Dad (who as only 3 years old at the time) and his immediate family lived in Valdez. Thankfully their house was away from the water and they escaped the worst effects. But many friends and townspeople were not so lucky. They all moved to Anchorage afterwards to start over.

<comment><USER2> This is very possible.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> I've always been fascinated by this event. I would love to see a realistic CGI recreation given the absence of actual footage. However, this write up is the next best thing.

</comment><comment><USER5> This is one of my favorite stories. The fisherman survivors (not mentioned in this scientific account?) riding the megatsunami experienced something rarer than walking on the moon.

<comment><USER6> American fishermen aren't known for their accuracy. I haven't read their account, but I'd be curious how credible it is. At the same time, what an experience, good chance it would sound fake even if it were real. This event is virtually unfathomable.

<comment><AUTHOR> William Swanson and Howard Ulrich's accounts of the tsunami:

[http://www.redundancydept.com/lituya.html](http://www.redundancydept.com/lituya.html)

<comment><USER6> Thanks so much for sharing that. I like how he specifically called out that the 1700 feet was the height of splashes, and the wave itself was about 100 feet tall. The other fisherman said the face was about two boat lengths (40 foot boat) so these are really good observations, and seem to lack embellishment.

Time to google search for a computer simulation of this.

Neat: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCn480_TUgY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCn480_TUgY)

Would love to see a photorealistic view from the inlet!

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER7> Using this event to think about what an asteroid hitting the ocean might be like is quite clever.

"The author suggested that with proper scale corrections, analogies could be drawn between the impulsive impact of the Lituya Bay rockfall to asteroid impact on ocean floor sediments and on such impulsive wave generation. Although, the trajectory angle, terminal velocity and total mass and density of material of an asteroid would be significantly different than those of the Lituya Bay rockfall, it was suggested that these could be scaled and adjusted for the purpose of validating a model of asteroid impact."

</comment><comment><USER8> Ever since I was a kid I've been fascinated with natural disasters. This is the one of the most fascinating ones. Can you imagine a giant wall of water this size coming at you?

<comment><USER9> I often sit and think about the Missoula Floods and struggle to fathom what these walls of water would have looked and felt like as an onlooker. When I was told about the flood (it was thought to be one big event when I was a kid) I thought people were pulling my leg. This is such a wild world be live on.

For those that are unfamiliar: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods)

<comment><USER10> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> That whole website is a goldmine of interesting climate related information.</comment>


The Clock Frequency of our Universe - <AUTHOR> http://www.jacquesmattheij.com/The+Clock+Frequency+of+our+Universe <comment><USER2> AKA the Planck time

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_time>

<comment><USER3> Indeed, and Jacques was reasonably close — Planck frequency is 1.855 × 10^43 hertz

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> _Permutation City_ [1] by Greg Egan is one particular (hard SF) look at this idea.

I'm pretty sure there are others, it's quite a common trope.

In the (hopefully) real world, there was something fairly recently about possible violations of the Planck length: [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110630111540.ht...](http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110630111540.htm) (news wrapper around <http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.1068> )

[1] [http://www.amazon.com/Permutation-City-Greg- Egan/dp/00610548...](http://www.amazon.com/Permutation-City-Greg- Egan/dp/006105481X)</comment>


Compound interest can help save for the future, or it can bankrupt the world - <AUTHOR> http://laphamsquarterly.org/future/trust-issues <comment><USER2> This article seems to be based on a fundamental misunderstanding of economics.

A trust can't grow faster than the value of its investments, and on average, trusts won't grow faster than the economy as a whole. So there's very little risk that a trust will grow to encompass a significant portion of total wealth in a way that could threaten an economy.

Science fiction stories that show someone waking up to find their small balance has grown into a fortune are just that, fiction. Anyone who's kept money in a bank knows that the interest doesn't even keep up with inflation.

<comment><USER3> I'm confused by this comment. That sounds like a savings account you're talking about. But a T-Bill grows at inflation + (small percentage, though probably still less than GDP growth). And a stock market fund grows faster still (and in general, the stock market has shown sustained growth when measured over decades--though one might question that after the last 15 years). Given an index fund invested in 1929, you would have growth beyond what the economy experienced during that period, right?

There are questions about how you'd manage a multi-trillion dollar fund: you'd eventually reach the point where you can't just use index funds. But other than that, your comment doesn't seem accurate.

Edit: What is true is that there is a limit to what your investment could become. For obvious reasons, it can't be more than the wealth of the world, and there would be asymptotic behavior at even less than that.

<comment><USER2> I'm only referring to a bank account in the final two sentences. There is a common trope in time travel stories where a person finds that their small bank account has become a fortune. The linked article seems to think that that's not just reasonable, but likely. But it's obvious nonsense.

Yes, a T-bill grows faster than inflation, but slower than the economy as a whole. So you're going to get a smaller and smaller piece of the total economy --completely at odds with the premise of the article.

The rest of my comment is valid regardless of the assets the trust holds. Certainly, someone can get a bigger slice of the economic pie by investing wisely (or luckily), but there's no particular reason to fear that a long- lived trust will do so, and plenty of reasons to think they won't. Look at successful companies from 100 years ago. Most of them don't even exist any more. Why would we think the management of a long-trust would be better at navigating the future economy than that of a major company?

<comment><USER4> That trope has a dual premise. First, compound interest is in play. Second, the beneficiary is not drawing on the account for living expenses.

If you can put $10 in an account at 3% interest and wait 200 years, you can take $3693.56 out. The key is not needing that money at all over a 200 year time span. The interest only accumulates on money that stays in the account.

Rich folks can afford to let money sit and gather interest. Poor folks spend all that they earn, if not more.

As a thought experiment, take two identical trust funds. Put $10M in one, and $20M in the other. Both grow at 4% per year. At the end of each year, the beneficiaries may withdraw up to 3% of the fund. The beneficiaries have similar tastes, and initially withdraw $250k. Each subsequent year, they draw 3% more, unless they hit the cap.

How many years before the larger fund grows from double to triple the size of the smaller? 25. It is four times the size after 42 years. It is 10x the size after 112 years. It takes 14 years for the less endowed beneficiary to hit the withdrawal cap, and 128 years for the other to reach it, at 10.64 times the size, spending 10.64 times as much per year, forevermore.

If your expenses grow more slowly than your investments, you will grow ever richer. If your spending grows faster than your income, such as for everyone in the US earning a wage or salary since 1970, you grow poorer.

<comment><USER5> > If you can put $10 in an account at 3% interest and wait 200 years, you can > take $3693.56 out.

Yes, but how much is that $3693.56 worth in 200-years-ago dollars? Chances are, the number is less than $10.

<comment><USER4> In 200 years, other things could also happen.

\- US/Federal Reserve Dollars could be obsoleted in favor of a different currency. Your account might automatically be converted to a non-interest bearing account in a different unit of account.

\- Your account could be flagged as inactive and plundered by the banking institution or the governing authority.

\- The currency could be inflated much faster than your fixed rate of return. Your $3693.56 could buy one ramen noodle--not one packet of noodles, one noodle.

\- The banking institution could cease to exist. If there is a successor institution for your account at all, you might not know what it is.

But the point is that if you just take your $10 bill into the future with you, you would only have one worthless 200-year-old $10 note, of interest only to curators and collectors. You wouldn't have the not-even-$10-worth of era- appropriate currency.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> I suspect the concerns about how large a trust might grow are just camouflage for the people trying to get at the money early.

None of the trusts ever actually grew to be that significant when compared to the wealth of some living persons and dynasties -- the Rockefellers and the Kochs and the Waltons. The set of people terribly concerned about the undo political influence of those running a perpetual trust seems disjoint from the people concerned about the undo political influence of the living rich.

</comment><comment><USER7> You can not simply invest your money at "compound interest" for an arbitrary number of years. Market interest rates change over time. And even if you would manage to get some institution to guarantee you interest x for n years, that institution might go bankrupt before you get your money back.

Some long running investments exist, like governments still paying off debts from World War 1. But you can not count on such deals being available when you need them.

I think Andreas Eschbach handled it pretty well in his excellent novel One Trillion Dollars. It also has the premise of a heritage that compounds for a very long time. But it explains that there was a family whose sole purpose was to manage the fund for centuries until the heir was ready. (The book is not so much abut the wonders of compound interest as about the value of money).

</comment><comment><USER8> Even if someone was infinitely rich it would merely cause hyperinflation. This article seems to have quite a bit of economics misunderstandings.

<comment><USER9> There was an econ professor that gave a guest lecture early in my college years that said inflation is merely a societal disagreement about the distribution of income between the wealthy and everyone else. He explained why this is the case very well at the time, but I can't remember the details now. If anyone else has been told this and can explain it here, it would be greatly appreciated.

<comment><USER10> He was most likely referring to the view that bargaining over the share of company revenues spent on wages is often a driver of inflation. In brief: Employees feel that their company's growth should be reflected in higher wage incomes for them (especially if they're worried about higher prices in future) and so seek to negotiate higher wages, to the extent labour market conditions permit them to. Business owners feel the benefits of the growth should instead accumulate to them and therefore seek to protect their profit margins by increasing prices (especially if they're worried their suppliers might put the prices up in future), to the extent conditions in their market permit.

<comment><USER9> I think this was similar to the argument he made.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER11> This could not happen in the U.S. because it would violate the Rule against Perpetuities.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_against_perpetuities](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_against_perpetuities)

However, compound interest is a very powerful tool.

[http://www.daveramsey.com/article/how-teens-can-become- milli...](http://www.daveramsey.com/article/how-teens-can-become- millionaires/lifeandmoney_kidsandmoney/)

<comment><USER12> >This could not happen in the U.S. because it would violate the Rule against Perpetuities.

From the same link, not all states follow that. Many others adopt a "wait and see" rule, which may change one way or the other over the relevant time period.

So it's not quite true to claim this could not happen in the US.

</comment></comment><comment><USER13> "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws." \--Rothschild in 1744.

</comment><comment><USER14> This article is at least as old as 2011, since there was an MR discussion of it then: [http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/09/the...](http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/09/the- magic-of-compound-interest.html)</comment>


A robust python list with .NET LINQ functionallity - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/avilum/linqit <comment><AUTHOR> I use it in order to write cleaner code.</comment>


Bizarre Glasses Promise to Cure Motion Sickness - <AUTHOR> https://gizmodo.com/these-bizarre-glasses-promise-to-cure-your-motion-sickn-1827479936 <comment><USER2> Even at $100 these would be very worth it to me. Can't read in cars, and can't ride in ocean boats in any kind of swell. Twisty mountain roads as a passenger are bad. I even get a little nauseous on city busses. Barfing doesn't look cool, so the dork factor is an easy price to pay.

The concept makes sense, unlike copper/magnet bracelets.

Dramamine doesn't help me. The "Relief Band" that shocks the wrist does help with stomach nausea, but not the head wooziness ([https://www.reliefband.com/](https://www.reliefband.com/)). Also no food, ginger, or small amounts of carbs doesn't help. Looking at the horizon helps a little.

Looks like they are on preorder, shipping in December 2018:

[https://www.boardingglasses.com/](https://www.boardingglasses.com/)

Excited to see real reviews.

<comment><USER3> I get pretty bad motion sickness. Which is not wonderful when diving. Hyoscine works for me. The worst I've felt when I've had hyoscine has been mild nausea, even in awful conditions. I use the behind-ear patches, sold as transderm scopolamine (IIRC).

[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscine)

<comment><USER4> Scopolamine, as in the truth serum? Do you notice any increased tendency to blab secrets when taking it? It would be amusing to travel with you.

<comment><USER5> My SO takes it when we're on boats, and she definitely feels - different. I haven't noticed her blabbing secrets, but I'll ask some better questions next time. :)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> A similar idea appeared over 20 years ago as joke. More specifically as a Chindogu, the comical Japanese artform of creating almost but not quite useful inventions to solve everyday problems.

[http://www.asiaone.com/static/multimedia/gallery/120706_japi...](http://www.asiaone.com/static/multimedia/gallery/120706_japinventions/pic38.html)

<comment><USER7> I remember seeing a few clips about Chindogu as a child: the ones I recall most are the motorized fork for spaghetti (just causes a mess because you can't turn it off), and the solar-powered flashlight (of course, without any kind of rechargeable batteries).

<comment><USER8> Trying to rotate your head at the right speed to snatch the spaghetti off a spinning fork sounds like a fun challenge

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> At least this will work better than the copper bracelets tons of people wear on cruises. I couldn't convince my daughters they were b.s. But maybe I shouldn't interfere with the placebo effect.

Speaking of placebos, I wonder how these glasses compare to placebos.

<comment><USER10> Copper bracelets for sea-sickness? When I was a kid, the scam was that they cured arthritis.

<comment><USER11> The scam is w/e they tell you to get you to buy it :)

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> How about using your smartphone's gyroscope to show the artifical horizon on the screen itself? For example using [https://richtr.github.io/Artificial- Horizon/](https://richtr.github.io/Artificial-Horizon/) as background for text.

If somebody that experiences motion sickness wants to test it, I can help coding a prototype.

<comment><USER13> The phone aims to show the real horizon, not the changes in perceived gravity due to a swaying vehicle. I wonder if the difference is important. (A special- purpose app might behave differently, though.)

<comment><USER14> That's just it, the real horizon will appear to move even though it's the vehicle moving. People tend not to get seasick/motion sick when they can see the outside apparently swaying because that coincides to the bumps they feel. It's when they are entirely inside or focused on on something that isn't moving relative to themselves that there is a difference between feel and vision.

While I don't get seasick at all, I'll add this in so that someone might try it. I noticed that on a rocking boat people stand two different ways. Most people will move their feet apart and assume a rigid stance so their head is always up relative to the boat. Others will keep both feet together and stay upright relative to gravity, seemingly tilting back and forth in rhythm with the ship. I suspect the second might help with motion sickness since you would see the boat move like you feel that it should. It always struck me as funny to have some of both types in the same group having a conversation.

<comment><USER13> Hmm, I thought the problem was that the acceleration of the car (for example sideways acceleration when going through a bend) was perceived as a sideways component of gravity – as the principle of general relativity tells us, they are the same thing – without there being a corresponding visual input, even when looking outside. In contrast to something that replicates the actual horizon, the blue liquid in these glasses would feel and adapt to the same sideways acceleration as your body feels, so I thought that was the point.

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER15> Please somebody with a VR rig try simulating this.

Previously there were reports that an "artificial nose" in VR setups reduced motion sickness [sources needed...], perhaps having an artificial horizon-ish- thing (Han Solo's lucky dice?) bobbing around in periphery would have the same effect?

It seems like this would have a transferrable benefit to a similar problem.

<comment><USER16> Bobbing dices won't work. Think about it: VR sickness comes from the mismatch of your body _not_ moving, while the visuals show you moving around.

Car sickness comes from your body moving (detected by your inner ear), but if you are not looking out of the window your visuals (reading a book, looking at the phone) show you stationary.

</comment></comment><comment><USER17> I do get motion sickness in cars in the traditional way, so I am willing to give these a try, but I would like a solution (other than dramamine, which works wonderfully but makes me drowsy) to motion sickness caused without any motion at all. Such as playing a 3D game.

</comment><comment><USER18> Given the simplicity of the mechanism described, I wonder if you could make something similar yourself and skip the hefty price tag.

<comment><USER19> [https://www.amazon.com/Westminster-PT7327-Silly- Straws-0084/...](https://www.amazon.com/Westminster-PT7327-Silly- Straws-0084/dp/B001JP9I5I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1531272656&sr=8-2&keywords=straw+glasses)

Fill with coloured water and seal the ends!

<comment><USER20> Looks like some patent got violated.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER21> At $180 CAD, these are too expensive to preorder for my friend without much in the way of reviews.

Does anyone know where I can look for unbiased reviews for this 12-16 months down the line?

</comment><comment><USER13> Summary of how it works:

> The Seetroën glasses have four liquid-filled rings [which you look through] > that, thanks to gravity, simulate the angle and movements of the horizon so > that the motions of the blue-dyed liquids seen by the wearer's eyes match > what their inner ear is detecting.

</comment><comment><USER22> Does this work for sea sickness as well? It would be awesome if so because I'm so scared to take a boat after a particularly bad and embarassing boat trip where I suddenly puked from it.

</comment><comment><USER23> The price is pretty absurd. I was expecting this to be in the range of $15, not $115. You could buy several years worth of dramamine for that price and won't look goofy at the same time

<comment><USER24> Give it a month or two and hopefully you'll find clones on aliexpress for $5

</comment></comment><comment><USER25> I wonder if these can be worn over prescription or reading glasses, as they seem to be close fitting.

They wouldn't be very helpful for people who can't see anything while wearing them.

</comment><comment><USER26> Why does the author have this horrible tone throughout the whole article?

He talks like the glasses are joke and focuses on the fact that--God forbid-- they don't have a good design according to him, but if they work they're a fantastic product!

My girlfriend cannot read more than a couple of sentences before getting sick while I'm driving, and I would care many times less about the glasses' look or the cost than her not felling sick.

Journalism is really going downhill.

<comment><USER27> Not everyone experiences motion sickness. It can be difficult for those of us who don't to properly empathize with those who do. For someone who doesn't experience motion sickness or only experiences it in extreme situations then the products appearance is a big negative.

<comment><USER26> Are you being serious? A cast looks pretty ridiculous, but if your arm is broken you wear it.

I don't experience motion sickness, but if my girlfriend wore those I wouldn't start making fun of her because even though she's not sick anymore she looks weird!

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER28> Looks like the next shipment for Citroen's version is September, if you don't want to wait for December for the Boarding Glasses version (I'm not sure how they differ):

[https://lifestyle.citroen.com/en/shop/_/pr4619/lunettes- seet...](https://lifestyle.citroen.com/en/shop/_/pr4619/lunettes-seetroen- inspired-by-you)

</comment><comment><USER29> I'd recommend the patch for boating related sea sickness. It lasts 3 days. Most people get the "sea legs" within 3 days, so you don't need medicine after it wears off. It works by essentially disconnecting your brain from your inner ear.

I get dizzy for about 10 minutes after putting it on. And for another 10 minutes after taking it off (if only using it for a day trip). Otherwise, no side effects.

</comment><comment><USER30> I was born with optic nerve hypoplasia and nystagmus, and despite also having a condition similar to photosensitive epilepsy start abruptly 7 years ago I've never been motion sick. I can read my laptop, a tablet, or a book on a rocking sailboat and never get any hint of being motion sick. It's fascinating.

</comment><comment><USER31> > _These Bizarre Glasses Promise to Cure Your Motion Sickness—But At What > Cost_

Further down in the article:

> _for about $115_

<comment><USER32> I think The "cost" they imply in the title is that you have to wear glasses which look kind of ridiculous.

</comment></comment><comment><USER33> A predecessor was patented in the mid-90s: [https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsic...](https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE69620873T2)

<comment><USER34> Curious: how could you pull out the link just now? Did you have it bookmarked somewhere for long time? Or did you see it somewhere recently?

<comment><USER33> I read something about "double glasses with fluid in between them to simulate the horizon" years ago and then spent some minutes duckduckgoing.

<comment><USER34> Ah, ok, so just the good, old "brain memory" technology :)

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment> m-p-3 I fortunately do not suffer from motion sickness anymore, but I had a lot of issues with that when I was younger in the car.

I kinda hope they work, just in case my 6 months old son has the same problem later on and for everyone who suffers from the same issue.

</comment><comment><USER35> At first I was wondering if we could apply that to VR which got a motion sickness problem.

But in VR, the problem is the opposite: the screen move, but not your body.

</comment><comment><USER36> Even after reading the article, and seeing the video, I kept waiting for someone to say "April Fools! We are just a little late".

</comment><comment><USER37> Wonder if these will help with noise canceling headphones. I get bad motion sickness from them but really like the quietness they provide.

</comment><comment><USER38> This could be huge, especially for self-driving cars where people will want to do something useful while driving!

</comment><comment><USER39> Ginger never works for me.

<comment><USER40> Same here. I fell asleep on a boat and woke up vomiting. Can't read in any vehicle or watch a video. Forget about playing FPS games too, or a VR headset. Though airplane turbulence is fine if I sit back with my eyes closed.

There is some wristband that administers light electrical shocks, but maybe it is hogwash.

[https://www.reliefband.com](https://www.reliefband.com)

</comment></comment><comment><USER41> If anyone wants to buy me a pair, I'm happy to be a guinea pig with Mirror's Edge. Currently my record is puking within 5 minutes of playing.

Skyrim is a close second and a game I'd dearly love to find a motion sickness cure for even with fov cranked up.

<comment><USER42> Umm, these won't help unless the motion making you sick is actually, er, motion.

</comment></comment><comment><USER43> thats a new record for me..

according to ghostery There were 19 trackers on a site referred by HN submission..</comment>


Google fined by Taipei over app refund, react by suspend apps sales in Taiwan - <AUTHOR> http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/TechandScience/Story/STIStory_684581.html

<comment><USER2> Unfriendly? I'd say their law is ridiculous.

I hate the new 15-minute period as much as the next person, but 7 days is ridiculous for software purchases on the scale of mobile apps. Many of them could be completed and boring in 7 days. It protects the consumer but destroys the publisher.

Even the 1 day period felt long to me, but there was a few times I was glad it was that long... Apps that claim to work but don't come to mind. Sometimes it takes hours to get it to download properly. I have actually refunded an app that I couldn't download within the 24 hour period, despite most 500mb+ apps taking less than 10 minutes to download.

So I can defend 1 day, but not 7. That's not a trial period, it's the entire life of the app.

There are arguments that apps that small shouldn't be for sale in the first place. But people aren't forced to buy them. If they don't think they are worth the money, they shouldn't buy them.

<comment><AUTHOR> App stores can always refuse to sells apps to those abused the refund policy, so I don't think it will destroy publishers.

Although frankly speaking, 7 days is too long for apps, the law is originally made to restrict post sells and other physicals goods sales that buyer have no idea the quality is before they receive the goods, I think its quite reasonable.

<comment><USER3> Additionally, not all mobile apps are the same; e.g., 7 days is certainly too long for games, but probably just fine for a calendar app.

The Android market already lets you customize your trial duration, though in a second-best manner—you upload both a demo and a regular version of the app. Of course, there are a bunch of problems, like trying to migrate data.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> Personally, I think the 15 minute time period is completely ridiculous and harmful to publishers. I think a 7-day trial period would be a little long, but a reasonable choice. Better yet would be to let the publisher of the app choose from a small list of options (15 min, 24 hrs, 7 days, 1 year, Forever).

BUT, I also realize that the app stores can't create separate policies for every jurisdiction on the planet -- there are too many and it is too difficult. So Google's "solution" is probably the best way to deal with a bad situation.</comment>


Fight Against Mugshot Sites Brings Little Success - <AUTHOR> http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2017/12/11/fight-against-mugshot-sites-brings-little-success <comment><USER2> It's a straight, short line between mugshot companies and credit rating companies like Experian. Data which is available but hard to access is fundamentally different from data which takes ever decreasing costs to aggregate. We're on the front edge of a vast readjustment in how society treats personal data and privacy.</comment>


Fast 3kb React alternative with the same ES6 API. Components and virtual DOM - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/developit/preact <comment><USER2> very nice</comment>


Ask HN: Should I include my GPA and/or transcripts when applying for jobs? - <AUTHOR> I am set to graduate with my BS in Software Engineering from Auburn University in December. I am currently trying to get my resume in order and start sending out tons of applications for jobs in the next month or so. I have been programming and doing web development in some form since I got my first computer when I was seven or eight years old, I am having trouble trying to decide what all should go on my formal resume. Many people online state to only have one page, or one main page with everything important on it.
Many people at school are recommending to include complete transcripts with grades (mine are pretty good, I have an overall GPA of 3.4. I generally have A marks in hard major classes such as Algorithms, Networks, Assembly, and Operating Systems.
Do you guys think its a good idea to include full transcripts with applications if I have no paid professional experience to speak of? If I do include transcripts should I have my GPA listed on my resume? Many sample resumes I see do not include a GPA. Others include a full list of relevant courses taken, but still no GPA. I thought GPA was pretty common on a resume if its above 3.
I did my core (non-software) classes at a Community College and transferred to my Auburn University two and a half years ago. Should I include the community college on the resume, should not be as prominent/detailed as the University's listing. How can or should I show/express my own self-taught experience from years before University on my formal resume.
Any advice will be much appreciated! Thanks in advance for your time. <comment><USER2> Nobody will read transcripts. Few hiring officers read _resumes_.

This issue is vastly, vastly, vastly less importance to your success with your job search than meeting and making an impression on people with hiring authority is. The default response to an unsolicited resume is for it to be silently discarded. Rather than making that the focus of your efforts, start identifying people you'd like to work for (or companies and, by extension, the people within them with hiring authority) and pitching them directly. Your conversations will be much, much more interesting than anything on your resume or any response to it.

<comment><USER3> _Few hiring officers read resumes._

What is your opinion about cover letters?

<comment><USER4> As an alternative data point to some of the answers, everywhere I've worked looked at resumes and did not really consider cover letters. I believe this is also the case at Google and most Wall Street tech jobs.

<comment><USER5> Could you extrapolate this statement (Google and Wall Street) to giant companies with an online HR application process? Cover letters make sense when you're sending it to a person, or at least an email address.

What happens when you put your resume into Taleo or one of those other online application systems? You could be applying to several positions with the same cover letter and resume in that case. I wonder how many people actually read them.

<comment><USER4> You could do that, but I wasn't specifically talking about Taleo or similar systems. When I was on the hiring end, we just got resumes via email and didn't read the cover letter.

</comment></comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> As I've worked for 15+ years in various consulting firms, I have a CV in 2 sections. A brief one with a simple outline of personal information, formal education and a 1-line summary of positions held, then a much more verbose section detailing the projects I've worked on. The first section is maybe 1.5 pages these days. The second section is easily 7 or 8 pages and is not always sent, only when a customer asks for more detailed information.

In your case, I would suggest to emphasise your programming projects. See it as some kind of portfolio. Nobody will be reading the transcripts so don't include them. Include your GPA score if you think the rest of the CV is not entirely convincing. These are the kind of indicators that people will look at for people that are straight out of school and are not expected to have a lot of practical experience.

When I'm on the other side of the table and reviewing a CV for (junior) positions I'm basically looking for a few indicators: 1\. The person has the ability to think at a certain level that is right for the job 2\. They have some relevant experience or have shown an interest in the topic 3\. I'm not starting from zero with this person. 4\. Can they pick up new skills reasonably quickly and are they willing to do so

Good luck with the job hunt !

<comment><AUTHOR> Thank you, I have a considerate amount of outside of school projects that I am putting together. Most of it I feel are small demos and games and such that I used to teach myself new technologies and such, nothing actually in use or all that useful, but I hope it at least somewhat demonstrates my abilities.

</comment></comment><comment><USER7> I would leave your overall GPA from Auburn, 3.4 is pretty good. There is no need to include the community college. No need to include transcript unless requested. Projects/things you have shipped/winning hackathons will probably help make you stand out the most.

<comment><AUTHOR> That's what I figured, probably include the GPA and have transcripts ready. The advisers at the University seem so adamant about sending out my transcripts whenever I can. I am attempting to get all projects that I haven't lost over the years together and online. I am hoping to have a very short formal resume which points online for example projects and a less formal description of my interests, studies, etc.

</comment></comment><comment><USER8> You have to sell yourself however you can. There are many new developers that don't have a degree, or don't have good grades, so those people will need to demonstrate their abilities in other ways. For example, I had a lackluster gpa, so I made sure to work on my own projects that I could emphasize. If you think you can show that you excelled in relevant CS classes, then do so. If you've got stuff you did before college that's interesting, figure out how you can bring it up. You have to play up whatever potential positives you have.

</comment><comment><USER9> GPA - absolutely. If it's not there, the assumption will be that the reason it isn't there is because it's bad (especially as a new grad). Like when you look at a 2nd hand car listing and they leave off mileage - you know it will be huge. Transcripts, no - they just add unnecessary padding at this stage, nobody wants to read those unless they absolutely have to, so they'd only be asked for at the end of the process, if at all.

But more importantly than either of these - you should write your resume differently depending on what you are applying for. Highlight what is most valuable to the organization you are applying to. If this means you have to reduce the number of applications you send out, that's fine, it's much better to have fewer well targeted applications.

And try to state facts, not claims. By which I mean - don't claim to 'work well in a team', or have 'excellent X'. Show what you've done and the impact it had. If you wrote something cool at the age of 10, I can infer that you're smart and self-directed from that.

Good luck.

</comment><comment><USER5> From my experience: Don't include your community college, unless that's where your degree is from. Even then, if you got an AS at a community college and then got a BS, just drop the AS.

Include your GPA if it's better than 3.0/4.0. That's the cutoff point for most companies, and unfortunately some will be 3.5, so unless you know the hiring manager you'll just get filtered out. Some people try to tweak this by splitting out "Major GPA" versus "Overall GPA", but if your school was like mine then your community college work just transferred as credit, and doesn't impact your GPA outside of fewer classes in the calculation.

Don't include your transcripts; this isn't a scholarship.

My question is at what point do you drop your college GPA from your resume? After your first professional job, after 5 years, more?

</comment><comment><USER10> I'm a bit late to this, but I'll give you my experience. It echoes what others have said to some extent.

In every instance I've applied for a job, it began with my casually (but assertively) stating interest. Here is the process I go through (you could call it my job hunting "workflow"):

1\. I read about an interesting company or meet/talk to someone with connections to an interesting company.

2\. I learn what I can about them, researching for a few hours, deciding if I'd enjoy it (on a cursory level).

3\. I contact people with _decision making ability_ and politely but assertively state my interest. Note - I don't send a resume (you can, I don't).

4\. Most cases, I've gotten through an entire hiring process without being asked for a resume. If they happen to ask, it generally suffices to show them my portfolio of prior work. This is in fact as simple as linking the list of projects I've authored on my blog with corresponding code.

5\. Technical interview(s). Negotiation. Wrap up. Bam, you're done.

I highly, _highly_ suggest you read patio11's "Don't Call Yourself a Programmer"[1] and "Salary Negotiation"[2]. No, really, read both. Absorb every kernel of knowledge.

The importance of a resume is _grossly_ overestimated, as is the importance of a transcript. Don't show a piece of paper, show the knowledge that your education provided you with. Connections are important, and will field you the most significant leads in finding a job.

[1]: [http://www.kalzumeus.com/2011/10/28/dont-call-yourself-a- pro...](http://www.kalzumeus.com/2011/10/28/dont-call-yourself-a-programmer/)

[2]: [http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary- negotiation/](http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/)

</comment><comment><USER11> For a new college grad, the main thing I look at is programming experience outside mandatory college classes. You say you have been programming since the age of 8. Surely you must have done something worth mentioning.

This is a competition with your fellow classmates. If all you show are good grades, you are the same as everyone else.

As to the format: forget transcripts. PDF format please, one page or two max.

[a former hiring manager]</comment>


ChaCha20 and Poly1305 for IETF Protocols - <AUTHOR> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8439 <comment><USER2> I'd just like to take a minute to appreciate the quality of this RFC. You can implement the whole algorithm, start to finish, without referencing anything else for the most part. This is a good quality to have.

Nonetheless, this is only really valuable for learning and for toys. In production, you should use existing, tried and true libraries.

For an example of a hard-to-implement spec, see e.g. SPECK[1]. The order of _everything_ is confusing: endianness, x/y variables in the pseudocode, and so on[2,3].

[1] [https://eprint.iacr.org/2013/404.pdf](https://eprint.iacr.org/2013/404.pdf)

[2] [https://github.com/timw/bc-java/blob/feature/simon- speck/cor...](https://github.com/timw/bc-java/blob/feature/simon- speck/core/src/main/java/org/bouncycastle/crypto/engines/SpeckEngine.java#L264-L272)

[3] [https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm- kernel/msg633602.html](https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm- kernel/msg633602.html)

</comment><comment><USER3> I don't understand why they decided to create an incompatible protocol without changing the name.

The problem is the reallocation of bits from the block counter to the nonce, which they even admit might be problematic: "The amount of encrypted data possible in a single invocation is 2^32-1 blocks of 64 bytes each, because of the size of the block counter field in the ChaCha20 block function. This gives a total of 274,877,906,880 bytes, or nearly 256 GB. This should be enough for traffic protocols such as IPsec and TLS, but may be too small for file and/or disk encryption."

Are you kidding me? WHY, would anyone deliberately put in a flaw that wasn't there originally? And introduce an completely pointless incompatibility?

</comment><comment><USER4> Not to take away anything from Nir and Langley's work here, which I can only assume was heroic, but:

\- It is insane that this is only being published now.

\- It is insane if this document means anything or enables anything (other than, I suppose, providing a new, IETF-formatted reference for Chapoly).

Chrome has supported Chapoly since (apparently) 2013. Why did it take 5 years to standardize it? Does standardization mean anything? I'm O.K. if the answer is "no, not in any practical sense".

 _(But: see below.)_

<comment><USER5> This obsoletes another RFC [1] from 2015 and that RFC had many errata [2], so maybe coming up with a non-buggy standard does take time?

[1] [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7539](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7539)

[2] [https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7539](https://www.rfc- editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7539)

<comment><USER4> It is also possible that, as I am heads down in a very tedious code review and coming up for air only to write random HN comments until my brain cools off, that I am just 100% wrong about this.

I am prepared to be comically wrong!

<comment><USER6> Yeah, I think not spotting the Obsoletes: header on the RFC header counts as comically wrong. I couldn't have told you the old RFC number off the top of my head, but it's right in the header and I know you know how to read that header.

Chalk it up to a neural misfire.</comment></comment></comment></comment>


A Sad Milestone: AOL To Discontinue Netscape Browser Development - <AUTHOR> http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/28/a-sad-milestone-aol-to-discontinue-netscape-browser-development/

<comment><USER2> In other news: AOL was still maintaining the Netscape Browser

Whodathunkit? I had no idea that software was even still used, let alone actively developed. I guess I don't get out much...

<comment><USER3> maybe you get out _too_ much. this kind of stuff you can only pick up by staying in, spending a quiet evening at home with the missus.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> AOL to stop rebranding watered-down Mozilla releases as "Netscape".

</comment><comment><USER5> Netscape is a horrific interface monstrosity that is an insult to computer software.

It's about time. Good riddance.

</comment><comment><USER6> Well that's $10 billion well spent.

<comment><USER7> to their credit, they did allow the creation of mozilla... (or did that happen before the buyout?)</comment></comment>


Didi Kuaidi, China's Dominant Taxi App Firm, Launches Carpooling Service - <AUTHOR> http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/01/didi-kuaidi-chinas-dominant-taxi-app-firm-launches-carpooling-service/

<comment><AUTHOR> I think its a step in the right direction to reduce pollution footprint</comment>


Shoulder and wrist pain, anyone? - <AUTHOR> http://cathyma.com/2010/04/shoulder-and-wrist-pain-anyone/

<comment><USER2> Here's my experience dealing with wrist RSI: [http://blog.chromarati.com/2010/04/rsi-my-problem- child-10-t...](http://blog.chromarati.com/2010/04/rsi-my-problem- child-10-tips-for.html)

</comment><comment><USER3> _Shoulder and wrist pain, anyone?_

No thanks - I've got enough.</comment>


Ask HN: Dealing with monitoring software on work computers and transparency - <AUTHOR> Does your company run any monitoring software on your work computer? If so, does it interfere at all with development tooling? My company's IT team has been very secretive with the tools and settings they are deploying. Their applications are interrupting build tools and there are rumors floating around web traffic is being monitored as well. The company can do as they wish with their property but I'm interested in where one draws the line. <comment><USER2> I work on that IT side of the fence. You should assume that all activity is being monitored on your work machine and on your work network, because it probably is, and is your job worth testing the odds?

Additionally, modern OSes log and cache stuff all over the filesystem and even though you cleared your browser history and cache, it's highly likely there's still undeleted detritus sitting on your device's storage. I have recovered supposedly-cleared caches many times without having to resort to filesystem forensics tools, simply because of stuff like log rollovers, and routine snapshots of data caches.

Where do I draw the line? If I were subjected to it myself, I'd keep looking for a job where this kind of monitoring didn't happen. Not because I want to goof off on HN all day, but because its creepy, fosters distrust between employer and employee and hinders my tasks.

</comment><comment><USER3> > The company can do as they wish with their property but I'm interested in > where one draws the line.

I'm not sure how universal that is. Personally I always prefer keeping my stuff away from a work machine, but this does not mean that surveillance is OK.

Where I live (Western Europe), it doesn't really matter whose property it is, surveillance is not allowed. If your employer is analyzing your web traffic and/or reading your e-mails this is illegal even if it's on their property or their network.

<comment><USER4> Your employer most definitely has access to your work emails. Reading your private email would absolutely be illegal in any normal country, but wasn't really under discussion so is a wild tangent anyway.

Your employer is allowed to monitor web traffic that uses their networks, which on a lot of work machines will be all traffic (office networks will be monitored to detect malware and abuse, just like VPNs will be).

<comment><USER5> Having the ability to read your work email is not the same as having a legal right to do so. My employer doesn't have a legal right to view the contents of my purse or car even on company property.

I realize the legality question will be different depending on the country, but my experience working in the EU says people have a much higher expectation of privacy on their work computer.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER6> I've worked in many large Corporates, mainly in the financial sector. I've also spent a large part of my early career designing and deploying the 'standard' build that gets put on all work end-user machines.

At the very least, a regular full audit of your machine will be done. It will be looking for unauthorised executables, scripts, and certain filenames. This is in addition to the normal malware/virus scanning with central reporting that will also be enabled.

Then there's the prevention of the user being elevated, so that normal users can't install anything (although stuff like Chrome, and some Chat apps try to bypass this) - some places totally rely on a central deployment platform (i.e. SCCM) other places allow exception via one-time codes.

It's this prevention that tends to fubar most dev tools, which assume the user has a high level of rights.

Web usage is definitely logged, with either auto alerts to line managers/HR based on keywords, or is only actively looked at if it's a problem employee. Most countries have employment laws, which mean that web usage HAS to be logged - it's to protect the employee as much as the employer.

Unscrupulous employers also install 'idle' monitors, to check that the user is actively working on the machine during the day (I'm looking at you, Barclays Bank!) - these are people no self respecting professional should ever work for in my opinion.

In short, if you think you are trying to do something on your work machine that you do not want you employer to know about, then it's probably something you should be doing on your personal device instead.

<comment><USER7> > based on keywords

keywords like for porn ?

<comment><USER6> Depends on the employer - most outsource their web access to a proxy provider that has configurable content block-lists.

but yes, porn is likely blocked and/or reported on in most large organisations.

<comment><USER8> Also keywords like "resume"

</comment></comment></comment></comment><comment><USER9> Where I work it the software doesn't interfere with development tools but still, I don't like the idea of it. Luckily they only have such monitoring software for Mac OS and Windows, so the solution is to use Linux (for now). If your company allows you to use any OS then I would recommend switching away from Mac OS/Windows... I guess there are trade-offs though, most Linux distros are not as polished as Mac OS, for instance.

<comment><USER10> This is unfortunately not true anymore. Both Tanium and crowdstrike run on Linux for example.

<comment><USER11> The Linux version of Crowdstrike is severely gimped compared to the Windows one though. No way you could reconstruct somebody's activity with the same detail you could from a Windows session.

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER12> If it bothers you, avoid larger companies. Only one of the companies I've ever worked at even had an IT department (it was two people), and even there I had admin permissions on my own MacBook because it was easier for everybody if I just set up my environment myself instead of filing a bunch of helpdesk tickets. Creepy surveillance-ware seems to be more prevalent at giant companies who a) have the money/man-hours to bother with it, and b) have enough distance between devs and management that they feel like it's necessary.

</comment><comment><USER13> In any big company, web traffic is being monitored.

</comment><comment><USER14> If your device is owned by your employer, they can technically do anything with it, including illegal spying on you. Whether something is legal or moral is irrelevant, you should just assume they are doing it and act accordingly. Trying to draw any other line is not helpful.

</comment><comment><USER15> To the best of my knowledge, the companies I have worked for has never utilized any spyware as such. Only AV software.</comment>


All about Juice Jacking: malicious cell phone charging kiosks. - <AUTHOR> http://www.wallofsheep.com/pages/juice

<comment><USER2> Couldn't one build a device which will take USB power, but not data.

I.E. - have a device that you plug into the end of your cable which will filter the data off the connection such that juice jacking is impossible. You plug one side into power - it pulls in the power, and then feeds data-less USB power out the other side...

<comment><AUTHOR> Yes, this is the by far the most common answer. However, one would need to remember to bring said special cable, which at that point why don't you just remember to bring the wall wort USB adapter instead of carrying around a charge only cable?

Side benefit: wall wort USB adapters can push more amps to your device (e.g.. faster charge) than USB hosts.</comment></comment>


Why You Should have a Messy Desk - <AUTHOR> https://medium.com/busy-building-things/c6e7b9b5bc1f

<comment><USER2> I think the messy desks in the article are exhibits of said persons ability to focus, despite the metaphorical chaos around them.

The desks might simply be a consequence of the huge volume of work these persons got done through the day and are a symbol of resilience at most, but not the cause of their success.

I have to confess I would love it if it were the other way around: only having to mess up my desk, and voila, extreme focus and productivity engaged! :)

Interesting analysis attempt though, I'll upvote this despite the wrong conclusion(s), I find myself reading almost anything from medium just because of the pleasant typography.

</comment><comment><USER3> You are confusing cause and consequence (nice pictures, tho')

</comment><comment><USER4> having a messy desk itself is nothing useful. while it _may_ be true that greatness breeds a messy desk, it seems extremely doubtful that a messy desk breeds greatness.</comment>


Amazon Quantum Ledger Database Now Available - <AUTHOR> https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/now-available-amazon-quantum-ledger-database-qldb/ <comment><USER2> This is essentially a blockchain database, correct? I scanned the post and saw the words block and ledger, but never the phrase blockchain.

<comment><USER3> No. See question #4 in QLDBs FAQ: [https://aws.amazon.com/qldb/faqs/](https://aws.amazon.com/qldb/faqs/)</comment></comment>


eGovernment Provo Rumor Stop – does this have any chance? - <AUTHOR> https://www.provo.org/government/mayor-s-office/provo-rumor-control <comment><AUTHOR> Will people trust a government-led effort to "set the record straight"? You cannot submit a rumor anonymously, which I suspect will limit participation severly.</comment>


Ask HN: What will the world be like in 2030? - <AUTHOR> <comment><USER2> Let me answer this question by extending the trend that we observed happening from 2010 to 2020.

Tech will continue to do more for the same price or less as long as you shop carefully.

Houses, education, and healthcare will continue to increase in price in the USA because the political system allows/encourages those industries to charge what they charge.

The battle between walled-gardens and open source will continue.

Nothinh will be definitively resolved

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> I was just taking a shower and reflecting on the changes in my life and the world since 2010. So I'm curious to hear what people think will be different again by 2030, and how we'll look back at 2020.

</comment><comment><USER3> More murder, less middle class, people clutching to what they've got, climate issues, more hypocrisy...</comment>


Payment processor Visa blacklists free speech software company Gab - <AUTHOR> https://reclaimthenet.org/payment-processor-visa-deplatforms-free-speech-software-company-gab/ <comment><USER2> scary times we live in. Google/Apple , Visa/mastercard are monopolies that we have to live under.

why are people accepting them even if they appear to be "doing the right thing" at the moment.

</comment><comment><USER3> Time for anti-trust actions against the big duopolies such as the credit card processors.

</comment><comment><USER4> Yeah right.

Gab is an English-language social media website known for its far-right userbase.[8] The site has been widely described as a "safe haven"[9] for extremists including neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and the alt-right.[10]

Gab claims to stand for free speech and individual liberty,[a][25][26] though these claims have been criticized for being a shield of the alt-right ecosystem.[19][22] Antisemitism is a prominent part of the site's content,[28] and the platform itself has engaged in antisemitic commentary.[23][29] Researchers have written that Gab is "known to be hateful".[30]

Wikipedia.

<comment><USER5> To be fair, there's no proof in your quote that Gab is not a free speech platform. Being a shield for alt-right does not dispute that claim.

</comment></comment><comment><USER6> Like all "free speech" platforms, it prompty turned into a Nazi-infested hellhole. It's like a law of Nature, or something.

<comment><USER7> I would try to offer an alternative interpretation: The opposite of that can only exist in heavily manipulated or censored communities.

</comment></comment><comment><AUTHOR> Just like with large privately owned social media platforms that manage a significant amount of discourse (Twitter, Reddit, etc), payment processors have an oligopoly on a significant portion of transactions in society. I feel Visa blacklisting a company based on vague political grounds like "hate speech" should be disallowed since it is not much different from the government banning a company based on speech (in terms of impact). We can probably expect other payment processors to follow suit, just like Visa and MasterCard teamed up to stop payments to Wikileaks in the past.

With these fundamental utility organizations becoming increasingly political, what options (legally/politically/technically) are there to work around them?</comment>


Doors - a new js async design pattern - <AUTHOR> https://github.com/bredele/doors Doors is basically a mix between a promise (one state) and a state machine (multiple transition) without being immutable.
A door has multiple locks and can't be openned until all locks are unlocked.
Don't hesitate to star the project on github if you like it :) <comment><AUTHOR> Here's a simple diagram to explain what is doors. [https://github.com/bredele/doors/blob/master/doors.png](https://github.com/bredele/doors/blob/master/doors.png)</comment>


Why not to use JWT, in 3 minutes - <AUTHOR> http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2016/06/19/stop-using-jwt-for-sessions-part-2-why-your-solution-doesnt-work/ <comment><USER2> This says why not to use JWT for sessions. JWT aren't meant for sessions. This article is not an argument against JWTs. Very misleading tittle.

<comment><USER3> I've only ever heard of JWT recommended in the context of "database free sessions"

<comment><USER2> JWT has nothing to do with sessions. It's a stateless authorization mechanism. I actually have never seen it used in production as a substitute for sessions.

Can you show examples of production software that uses JWT as a substitute for session?

</comment></comment></comment><comment><USER4> I didn't know what a JWT was, and now I know I don't need to know what one is.

<comment><USER5> I mean this is fundamentally untrue JWT is the underlying standard for Oauth2.0 so its something that is worth understanding even if you don't plan to utilize it.

<comment><USER4> I stand corrected. JWTs seem perfect for their purpose.</comment></comment></comment>


Creative ways to upload large files? - <AUTHOR>

I recently started working out of my home creating HD video content. My upload speed is a real pain. I know it's possible to ship hard drives to Amazon for about $80. Can anyone suggest some alternatives? <comment><USER2> I'm not sure where you live, but here in Los Angeles, there are areas of the city that have Verizon FiOS with upload speeds up to 25Mbps. A few years back a friend of mine found a guy on Craigslist in who offered to pay the entire FiOS bill every month in exchange for being able to drop off a portable hard drive once a week to upload. If there is FiOS nearby, you can probably find someone willing to go for a deal like that. It would be cheaper than paying Amazon (plus shipping costs).</comment>


Google Internet Traffic Is Briefly Misdirected Through Russia, China - <AUTHOR> https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-internet-traffic-is-briefly-misdirected-through-russia-china-1542068392 <comment><USER2> ThousandEyes posted some technical details on this incident:

[https://blog.thousandeyes.com/internet-vulnerability- takes-d...](https://blog.thousandeyes.com/internet-vulnerability-takes-down- google/)</comment>


Real-time plotting of android accelerometer data - <AUTHOR> http://voorloopnul.com/blog/real-time-plotting-of-android-accelerometer-data/ A simple script to gather android accelerometer data and plot it in real-time. <comment><USER2> device orientation api might've been easier</comment>


Ask HN: Who pays the extra cost of WFH? - <AUTHOR> So in the current wave of the virus, many of us are being told to WFH on a permanent basis.
For my part I would normally have WFH once a week, but now that I have to do it full time, I'm wondering should the company cover the cost of that?
After all there is going to be a lot more electricity usage etc. Just curious what our full time WFHers do? <comment><USER2> I have worked "from home" extensively. The short answer is I "pay" if you want to call it that. Suggesting that somehow the burden of extra electrical use should be compensated for seems petty to me though.

You can try to deduct it as an "uncompensated business expense" but when you find out what the actual threshold is for that being a real thing you will be disappointed. Either that or you use astronomically more electricity that I do.

I have 2 large desktops, 2 laptops and 4 monitors in my home office. They run all the time as I never turn them off (though some of them do sleep). I can assure you that my hot tub uses far more electricity than they do.

You walk to work now which is great. For me, there was tank of gas a week savings as I drove and 10k miles less wear on my car.

Just as significant I think is that making my own coffee and lunch every day saves me in two weeks what the electricity costs me to run my office for a year. Before working from home, coffee and lunch would easily cost me $20 a day. Two weeks of that is more than my entire electrical bill a month.

Finally, for me anyways, the ability to see my kids when they get off the bus everyday and help them with homework and get them motivated to practice the activities and hobbies they enjoy is priceless.

<comment><AUTHOR> Our electricity is expensive and on a meter so charged at a higher rate. With being at home as well we're using our own coffee etc instead of company provided.

You're right, it is a small amount of expenditure, but I was curious as that's now escalated across entire companies!

</comment></comment><comment><USER3> Isn't that offset by the cost of your travel being reduced?

<comment><AUTHOR> I walk lol!

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> What does your cost estimate show? Have you measured how much electricity your home rig takes? What else changes between office life and WFH life?

<comment><AUTHOR> I haven't done an estimate yet as we start this week. We pay on a meter so the electric is pretty expensive and as we rent not much I can do about it.

Thats mostly it...I bring lunch in and thats the greatest expense.

<comment><USER4> So it sounds like, in your own words, there is literally no difference in cost between the two other than perhaps a 1% delta in your electricity bill.

If you really want to pursue compensation from your employer, of course you have every right to do that. Is that something you feel is worth chasing down?

If the company feels you're giving them extra headaches over WFH, which is a situation a lot of people would _love_ to have, what does that do to your reputation with your managers and leaders? Does it help or hurt your long-term prospects with the company?</comment></comment></comment>


China's Tudou.com Bigger than Youtube? - <AUTHOR> http://www.sproutly.com/2007/10/11/chinas-tudoucom-bigger-than-youtube/

<comment><USER2> Well that's a weird name for a website. Tudou means potato. I'm still not fluent, but their slogan "mei ge ren dou shi sheng huo de dao yan" means something like "everyone is a director," or maybe closer to "everyone lives the life of a director." Any native speakers that can translate that better?

In any case, this will be a great resource to help me become fluent.

<comment><USER3> the name means potato, like couch potato. the slogan says "everybody is life's director". i looked around at the site and i would say more than 3/4th of the site is of pirated nature. but hey, being a chinese company i doubt they care.

</comment></comment><comment><USER4> Closer to "Everyone is Life's director". It sounds pretty nice actually. Their name is kind of out of ordinary, but I think potato has more of a humourous touch to it in Chinese. So it's a lively name.</comment>


Ask HN: Do you journal for therapeutic purposes? - <AUTHOR> If so, how effective has it been for you?<p>What could be better? <comment><USER2> Very effective ... about 6 weeks ago I started a "Bitch Files" notebook. I made myself the promise that when I was finished with it I would ceremonially burn it. It was great to dump all the disappointments, frustrations, fears into it. I wrote most mornings and nights. After about a month I ran out of negative stuff. Started writing positive, optimistic stuff. So I started a nice clean new journal for those. I still keep the BF notebook around, but I haven't had anything to add for a couple of weeks now. One day soon, I'll go ahead and burn it and set all that negativity free.

I have tried writing on computer in the past. That works as well, but writing by hand seems to provide greater relief. Besides, I wouldn't exactly want to burn my computer. Doesn't matter if your handwriting is lousy. It's not like anybody is going to read it. But I do find it fun to flick through the pages and scribble over them. It is tactile and thus more engaging.</comment>


Clippy must die... and Gates should get out of our classrooms' lives - <AUTHOR> http://www.substancenews.net/articles.php?page=2749#comments

<comment><USER2> I'm not sure if I'd agree with any side here. Probably don't have enough information from the place itself. However the situation itself reminds me of a similar conversation between managers and developers.

Managers made great plans and tried to structure everything. More processes, more control, more planning, more measuring. Meanwhile good developers did as much work as they could while trying to workaround the processes to make their lives easier, sometimes argued the rules cannot be properly implemented, etc. Worse developers either tried to follow the program with either better or worse result, but usually with lots of bureaucracy and complaining. Bad ones ignored it and failed on all fronts...

What was definitely lacking was the trust that developers can do their job without constant managing... On the other hand, there weren't many good developers either.

</comment><comment><AUTHOR> Just thought it was interesting to see the rabidly opposed side's view spelled out a bit. I don't think they're proposing solutions to problems here other than, "wait for good people to come."

</comment><comment><USER3> _If you deserve it, the bird will fly in the window._

Everything that's wrong with US public education in one sentence.</comment>


Trump's FDA plan should raise concerns for Americans who eat food - <AUTHOR> http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-fda-plan-should-raise-concerns-americans-who-eat-food <comment><AUTHOR> This article title is priceless.

"The good news is, if you don't eat food, you have nothing to worry about. Everyone else, however, should probably take note."

I think we need to bring back the phrase "E. coli conservatism".</comment>


Jack Ma Original Sales Pitch - <AUTHOR> https://intelligentfanatics.com/forums/topic/jack-mas-original-sales-pitch-1999/ <comment><AUTHOR> "We will have to pay a painful price in the next 3 to 5 years, it is the only way we can succeed."</comment>


The Next Step for Mixer - <AUTHOR> https://blog.mixer.com/2020/06/22/the-next-step-for-mixer/ <comment><USER2> This reads _exactly_ like something from Our Incredible Journey[1]. It's amazing how similar the scripts that these startups follow is. Actually, even the titles of these posts give you an idea of what's happening.

[1] [https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/](https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/)

</comment><comment><USER3> earlier post: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23603874](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23603874)

<comment><USER4> Thanks—we moved most of the comments thither.

Original sources are generally better ([https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html](https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html)) but corporate press releases are an exception to that rule, since they tend to bury the lede or be otherwise obscure.

</comment></comment><comment><USER5> Tl;dr Microsoft is shutting down Mixer and moving their support to Facebook Gaming.</comment>