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Re: Murena 1.9i XU9JA (205 gti) performance
Reply #30 on:
December 07, 2006, 10:17:20 am »
No not really... the pug 505 gti(grand tourer injection) engine has nothing in common with the pug 505 ti(TURBO Injection) and require alot of modification to fit.
Oh, I forgot the differences between NT9 and PSR engines
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Reply #31 on:
December 07, 2006, 10:27:59 am »
Yep... the Dovrin engines are everywhere in citroens, renaults and peugeots wheres the n9t are very rare.
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Re: Murena 1.9i XU9JA (205 gti) performance
Reply #32 on:
December 07, 2006, 02:37:45 pm »
How much do you think Carjoy will charge you for the n9t ?
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Reply #33 on:
December 07, 2006, 03:25:36 pm »
Quote from: hru on December 07, 2006, 02:37:45 pm
How much do you think Carjoy will charge you for the n9t ?
I have no idea.. and i dont think they even have any peugeot engines.
I have just bought a standard 2.2 murena engine, that I will then build to n9te specifications.
His prices are 1500 euro for a complete murena 2.2 in good condition.
You can also get one with piston or bearing faliur, but otherwise ok, for 750 euro (the one I bought).
Freight amounts to 130 euro.
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Reply #34 on:
December 10, 2006, 05:55:31 pm »
Just found a bit about installing fuel injection on the murena engine... dont know why i didnt see it before..
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Reply #35 on:
December 11, 2006, 12:39:15 pm »
Interesting !
I will look at the details
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Re: Murena 1.9i XU9JA (205 gti) performance
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July 29, 2007, 01:28:13 pm »
I've been watching for Matra Murenas sometime, and I'm interested of a enginebuild of Peugeot XU10J4TE swap to Matra Murena. (it's a 220hp turbocharged Peugeot engine from factory).
A fast RWD mid-engined Matra would be an interesting build. Engines would produce easily some 350+ hp. Of course requiring upgraded brakes and suspension.
What I'm interested is that:
1.6 or 2.2 as a basecar (differences in suspension, brakes?) , difference in engine mounts for XU engines? (XU10J4TE will mount similarly as XU9J2 (8v Gti engine) or XU9J4 (Mi16 engine).
What Gearbox 1.6 / 2.2 used? Easy solution to mount a newer Peugeot gearbox, which they used with the XU-series engines (BE3 , or ME-series from V6s) ?
I'm asking this from you , as you've done a XU-engine swap, and propably you know these facts.
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Reply #37 on:
July 29, 2007, 04:01:56 pm »
Right... To start.. as far as I know, only one guy here has had his Murena converted to use the peug engine.
That would be Lennart, and he didn't do the work himself, but paid a garage to do his "dirty work", so I'm not sure he will be a reliable source of more tedious technical information.
But now..
Before I bought my Murena, I had EXACTLY the same speculations as you have now.
I also thought of other engine options , but came to the conclusion that the xu series is the most suitable engines considering cost, effort and performance.. IF an engine swap is whats wanted.
In the end , I decided to buy a 2.2 and put a turbo on that engine instead.(I just havent gotten around to it yet
If you decide that you definitely want to convert to an xu engine, the 1.6 is the murena to go for.
The 1.6 shares a couple of the engine mounts with the xu, where the 2.2 is completely different.
Apart from that the 1.6 SHOULD prove the cheaper to buy, and the difference form the 2.2 is so limited that is (in my mind) doesn't make any real significance, as apart from the slightly wider tracking of the 2.2, you'd have to improve it anyway. (brakes, suspension etc)
The swap itself will require the use of the BE3 gearbox that comes with the xu engine.Fortunately This gearbox is superior to the Citroen bx one used by matra.
I don't know if the gear linkage can be used without modification, but the propeller shafts needs to be cut to measure and then welded up again and balanced.
Right hand engine mount needs to be custom fabricated to fit.
You will need the wiring harness form the xu , the efi fuel pump and some way to feed it.
Exhaust needs modification as well... especially the down pipe.
And lots of other "small" things I can't think of now.
Now... the xu turbo from the 405 was NEVER renown for durability .. and add to that .. its an extremely rare and sought after engine..... like the 1.9 mi16 it will be very hard to find.. and if you do, it will certainly need a complete rebuild... witch is much the same as it will need extensive and expensive modifications to get anywhere near 350 hp for more then a short time without the bottom end going south.
And seriously..... 350hp in a murena?.. hope you have your life insurance paid! because it WILL kill you mate!.. no doubt about it!!
ps: What's with this hp craze we see today!?
When the murena hit the street in the early 80'ies the 911 turbo had about 250hp.. and that was PLENTY to get you killed twice over!!..
The calibra turbo 4x4.. had 204hp.. and it went like a stabbed rat!!!..
Now anything with less then 300+ hp is regarded as weak.. I just dont get it..
Last Edit: July 29, 2007, 05:01:35 pm by krede
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Reply #38 on:
July 29, 2007, 05:53:11 pm »
So 1.6 Mantra is easier to convert because it has similar engine mountings to XU-family. And BE3 gearbox use, ok, maybe ME-series gearbox could handle the high torque better. Ecu wiring, fueling, cooling, driveshafts modifying, gear linkage, clutch requires some work. Thanks for advices.
About the XU10J4TE as durability, please don't talk about it unless you have own a one and know about it yourself. I own a XU10J4TE engine with GT3076R turbo @ 2bar on a 405 T16 4x4 car, but it's an another story. XU10J4TE will go easily around 300hp with quite standard stuff, propably enough for a start to Mantra.
Anyone who knows are the enginemountings on chassis side different on 1.6 and 2.2 ? I would still prefer for a 2.2 chassis.
Also interested of a "bolt-on" brake upgrades for Mantra? Sorry, I'm a newbie on Mantras.
Last Edit: July 29, 2007, 06:18:40 pm by turbofriik
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July 29, 2007, 06:33:39 pm »
Well.. as I have never owned a t16 (they are almost none existent in Denmark,) of cause I have to rely on what I have learned from other sources..
.. but none or the t16 owners I spoke to when I was looking at engine options, had much good to say about that engine.
ALL the engine mountings of the 2.2 are different to the 1.6.
The 2.2 even have one of the mount points situated on the oil sump!...a solution unique to the murena as far as I know??
And Im not sure whether the gearbox mounts are the same either?.. the propeller shafts certainly are different 1.6/2.2.
Bolt on brake upgrades... well.. had there been any , I would have fitted them all ready.
Danish regulations make fiddling with the brakes next to impossible.
The Talbot Horison discs and calibers will bolt straight on.. these are the same diameter, but the disc is slightly thicker.. and the rotors are still not ventilated!.. so I don't think it is much of an improvement.. certainly not adequate for 300 hp.
It is claimed that some audi 80 calibers will also bolt straight on to the Murena upright, but as for discs to fit this...
Best bet would be to have a set made by a specialist willwod or simillar... but getting such a kit approved for street use?
If I remember correctly Jespers dutch v6 is fitted with such a kit.. If it gets approved (fingers crossed) I will copy his brake setup , if I can get him to spill the beans
Last Edit: July 29, 2007, 06:43:34 pm by krede
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July 29, 2007, 08:28:39 pm »
I had the XU9 1900-8v engine in my 1.6 murena. And i can tel you, the mountingpoints of the xu9 engine do NOT match the 1.6 enginemounts. Okay, they are kind of in the same place, but all mountingpoints needs modifications to make it fit. The richthandside mount needs a little cutting and moving the enginemount and a bracket. The lefthandside mount only need a bracket. The bottommount is totaly in the wrong place so that needs something fabricated to meet the chassis.
The 1900-8v engine is smaller than the Mi16 engine. the MI16 engine is much harder to fit in a murena. It needs grinding to make it fit. I gues your engine is at least the same size as a MI16. I gues it also needs more grinding to make room for the turbo.
I used the BE1 gearbox. The gearlinkage is easy to convert an the clutch is also easy, unlike the BE3.
The enginemount of a XU engine looks a bit simular to an 1.6 murena, but the murena enginemounts are designed for 100hp. To do 300+hp on these mounts is in my opinion not a good idea.
What about starting with a 2.2 murena and turbo that? That 2.2 engine was also sold with turbo in the 505 turbo.
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July 29, 2007, 09:16:23 pm »
Well.. there was a lot I DIDN'T know!!.. I always thought that the Mi 16 engine would be just as easy to fit as the standard 1.9 gti engine.
But it makes me fell that more certain that I chose the right thing, when not going for the conversion
What about starting with a 2.2 murena and turbo that? That 2.2 engine was also sold with turbo in the 505 turbo.
That is what I have decided to do... It should be much easier.. and much less "intrusive" then an engine swap.
The 505 turbo can be made to yield about 200-220 hp without much effort or cost. witch i think is about as much power as the rest of the car can handle. for sure it will be enough for me
Last Edit: July 29, 2007, 09:19:50 pm by krede
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Re: Murena 1.9i XU9JA (205 gti) performance
Reply #42 on:
July 29, 2007, 09:20:07 pm »
When the time comes to change my engine I will be looking at the Alfa V6 conversion. Personally I do not want to have a power output that destroys the drive-ability of the car. A bit more power and the noise of an Alfa V6 would do me fine
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July 29, 2007, 09:24:18 pm »
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July 29, 2007, 11:43:39 pm »
In either case my experience has been that even the simplest looking engine conversion, has a tendency to end up much more time labour and money consuming then one had the fantasy to imagine before the project was started... especially things that aren't a "bolt on" fit and parts that has to be custom made, can be a real pain in the rear.
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carlon Bethel College St. Paul. Minnesota ,May 2. 1975 Malachi 4:2
~on ,the ins'ide
Blac,ks at Bethel, part III: Current blacks facing adiustm'ents, p. 5
Ne,ttleton re'spond's to ILenn,( review, p. 3
Pat Repp (left) plays Benvolio and Keith Harrison
is Lord Montague.
To those offended by last week's cover story:
I feel directly responsible for the concern caused by
the 'Graffitti at Bethel' cartoon which appeared in last
weeks Clarion. Please forgive me. However, I wish to
assure you that the material presented was not intended
to be offensive and certainly not blasphemous. I love the
Lord and Bethel and I'm sorry that the 'Grafitti' feature
was misunderstood.
Tim Nyberg
P.S. I do believe that God has a sense of humor.
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comes to, Bethel
Performa'nces: May 2, 3,7,8,9,70
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Neil Moser stars as Romeo.
We don't think
it's blasphemy
Weare deeply stunned by the words which were levelled
against us in last Monday's chapel service. As we were not
approached with the feelings of the administration before the
chapel, it came as a complete surprise.
Needless to say, we feel a responsibility to explain how
and why last week's cover of the Clarion came to be published.
The cartoon was submitted to us, in the words of
its creator, as "a letter to the editor." We thought the idea
of such a graffiti cartoon (of actual Bethel graffiti) to be innocent
and humorous. Our policy on letters ,to the editor, as
expressed in the October 25 issue of the Clarion, is not to
print 1) obvious obscenities, or 2) taking of the Lord's name
in vain.
The spiritual leader of this campus has said that we
published blasphemies. Obviously, if we thought the cartoon
was blaspbemous, we would never have printed it. We are
not yet convinced that it is blasphemous. The two phrases
in question, "Jesus saves - not on my salary," and "God
didn't create the world in seven days, He screwed around
for six days and puUedan all nighter," need to be examined
Although the anonymous authors of the graffiti have not
come forward to speak, we can explain the way in which we
feel it was intended. "Jesus saves - not on my salary,"
seems to us certainly not an aspersion on the saving power
of Christ, but on evangelical tritisms. The latter phrase is
not a statement on what we mow is the complete and perfect'
work of God, but on the slipshod way we as humans often
approach our own work. God .does not procrastinate and cram'
all night for exams.
The cartoon and accompanying story were not meant
as a. cheap attempt ,to stir up controversy. We did not
publish them to irresponsibly test the "limits of our freedom"
in publication. We honestly thought the graffiti was
innocent and humorous.
e carlon
Published weekly by the students of Bethel College
Judy Harrington Johnson editor
Pamela Schultz copy editor
Steven Harris news editor
production editor
photography editor
business manager
Letters to the editor should be
sent to the Clarion, P.O. 91.,
by the Monday preceding
Volume 50, No. 24
We have not found many people here who were offended
by the cover. But those who were offened were disturbed
so deeply and sincerely that we must apologize for the hurt
we have caused. It was never intended. In a matter like this,
our God must look on the motives of the heart. We feel
our motives were pure, however we may have misjudged
the response of our audience.
We can free
Georgi Vins
In the person of Georgi Vins Russian leader of the
Christian-Baptists, we see someone to admire and emulate.
We see a man courageous enough to defy the law (if
his country in order to follow the dictates of his conscience.
(See story, page six).
Christian men of similar courage have lived in our own
country, in our own age. The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King
was jailed, beaten and tried for peacefully living his beliefs.
Martin Luther King, who said, "We will have to repent
in this generation not only for the hateful words of the bad
people but for the appalling silence of the good people."
These men, and others like them, do not consider themselves
to be citizens of nations in this world. They do not
stand in too much awe of earthly governments to condemn
those institutions when they are in the wrong. Whether the
injustices are denials of essential freedoms or the existence
of social inequities, men such as these are not afraid to
call injustice evil.
It is to our shame that Christians as a people in this
country have often been such good citizens of the American
state that we have been afraid to condemn our nation's
actions at home and abroad. While Martin Luther King sat
in Birmingham jail, evangelicals were publishing advertisements
decrying his non-violent resistance methods. While
American missionaries abroad were shot as foreign spies
(Paul Carlson in the Belgian Congo), we sat silent, unwilling
to admit that American CIA agents may very well
have been sabotaging efforts of the leftist insurgents. In
time it may well be that the work of American missionaries
in Viet Nam is nullified because we as a group
did not oppose the corrupt, oppressive Thieu regime.
Evangelical silence on issues of moral importance hurts
the cause of Christ. At home, we have proven Christ irrelevant
to millions of the poor, Indians, blacks and others.
In the third world, the gospel of Marxism has spoken more
effectively to empty stomachs.
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continued from pag~ tw,o
The need to unite as a Christian people and dissociate
ourselves from earthly powers is now more immediate than
ever. Witq a united voice, uplifting Christ and condemning
injustice, we will be heard above the chaos. Perhaps the first
step to be taken is one to lobby for the freedom of Georgi
Vins. We can free Georgi through an effort similar to that
with which American Jews freed the Panovs. As a step in this
direction, we will be placing a petition in this cause by the
P.O.'s. All who agree with the worded petition may sign it,
and it will be sent to appropriate congressional offices.
It all starts with seeking - as a people - after the
kingdom of God. rr-----1
NeHleton: Review
of movie 'Lenny'
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Dear Editor:
I would like to express my personal dissatisfaction with
the review of the film Lenny in the recent issue of the
Clarion. I do not believe the viewing, reviewing, or endorsing
of this particular film, or of other "R" rated
films, is consistent with the expectations of the Bethel community.
The policy for showing of films on ' campus has been
endorsed by the Senate, by the Faculty, and by the Administration.
While this does not provide the guidelines for
the personal viewing of films off campus, it does , represent
a feeling which ought to be considered in the viewing of
The catalog ' statement that students are expected to
refrain from indiscriminate attendance at the theater seems
to me , to be violated in this instance. I recognize that there
is room for wide disagreement when we consider what is
indiscriminate, but I think it is clear that the life of Lenny
Bruce, and depiction of his life in such a film, stands in
stark contrast to what our expectations are in the Christian
community. I do not accept the view that it is necessary
to "experience," either personally or vicariously, .all of the
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Blacks disappointed in
Harri'sl C:/o'rion series
Dear Editor and News EdItor:
Although we are very highly pleased to see that someone
around here actively cares about the plight of the Black
at Bethel and has found the initiative to present a series
of articles on the subject, there have been a few things
which h~ve disappointed us in the way the series is being
handled. We find ourselves thrust into an undesirable position
due to a mistake in judgment on someone's part. Hop~
fully, through this letter, you can see how we feel and why,
then we can work together to make this effort a success
for all involved.
1) We feel that an article such as this requires quality
Bla~k .participation of some type in order t9 be authentic,
realIstic and ,accurate. As far as we're concerned, a white
can accurately say what it's like to be Black as much as
a cat can accurately say, not speculate, what it's like to be
a dog. You've never experienced blackness from a Black
perspective, so how can you accurately depict our situation?
Authenticity and accuracy, through speculation, is lost, which
we feel has been the case in these articles.
Take for example the second paragraph of the first
article. Quote: "Black became beautiful in America during
the last decade ... " Speculation, we assume, because a
qualified Black would have known Black became beautiful
long before then. It was in the early 50's that Marcus Garvey
coined the phrase "Black is .beautiful." The actual movement'started
before then.
We feel, from the outset, there should have been rBlack
participation on the author or ,co-author level. This participation
should have been initiated by the organizer of the
series approaching us and asking if we were interested in
working together ' in order to present an authentic picture.
2) But since this never occurred, then we feel this
series demands some type of response from us, whether it
be supportive or an effort to establish the truth, lest we be
ignored and trampled upon once again. But due to la~k of
proper judgment, we cannot even properly do that. At the
present rate of production, the earliest the fourth and last
article of the series could come out would be in the second to
the last issue of th~ Clarion, seven weeks behind the first
article. Therefore, even if you found room in the last issue,
this would leave little time for us to discuss the articles,
formulate our opinions, and reply before we go bye, bye
Bethel. Therefore, we're forced to discuss this ' series before
he has a chance to finish, lest. we get no chance at all, which
poses obvious problems.
3) We have yet to see a direct quote from a Black
in the . articles. This strikes us funny especially since in the
second article, first paragraph, the thesis question for the
article is: "What are the causes of their discontent?"
From there on, we sit back and watch white analyists
comment on the dramatic occurrences of the past. Whatever
happened to the actors? Don't they get a chance to .
say , how they felt? We dare say that the article was
wishy-washy and white-washed, not giving the Blacks a.
chance to speak for themselves, the truth. Is that not what
you should be seeking through these articles?
continued on page six
Readers say:
You '.di1dn1t teill it 0,11
Dear Editor:
In regard to the movie review of last week's issue, we
would like to say that the movie Lenny, was not portrayed
in its entirety. We must say that the way the text was
conveyed was very appropriate and well done. This, therefore,
lent to the support of its authenticity. However, we feel
that very little was mentioned about the "way" the content
of the movie was portrayed-which we feel should have been
There were many aspects in Lenny that could be very
offensive to many Christians. For example, an abundance of
nude scenes, a quite vivid lesbian scene and an enormous
amount of foul language sprinkled generously throughout the
entire work.
To say that " there are no pretty pictures covering the
hole in the wall" is a definite understatement. In our opinion
there were too many holes and not enough wall to support
pretty pictures. .,...
We would therefore suggest that Bethel movie reviewers
in the future be more. explicit in their criticisms of movies.
ALL' aspects of a movie should be openly and constructively
criticized, so that Christians might more effectively choose
what is appealing to them.
Marcia Knight
Dana Doolittle
Dear Editor:
I did not attempt to criticize the sexu~l content of
Le~ny, because I believe it is it moral judgment which
will vary according to one's personal convictions, maturity
and background. If I had attempted to judge for the Bethel
community, that action would have caused more controversy
than it would have resolved. Obviously, some people were .
offended by Lenny and I do not question their right to be
offended but I was not, and I would not · pretend to be.
Therefore, I can't see why it would have helped them if
I had included this part of my opinion in the review. I
believe, as the school policy implies, that each student
is capable of making his own decision on the matter.
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Ce,rem,olny is student-led
For the firs~ time in recorded history, a group of Bethel
students is planning college commencement. The student
Committee, chaired by Fred Ogimachi, consists of seniors
Phil Carlson, John Anderson, Jean Lovaas, Marshall Shelley
and Judy Johnson.
"We've tried as much as possible to keep this a student
affair," said Ogimachi. "Students will be accompanying
the music and leading it, speaking and making introductions."
The student committee, working together with the Convocation
and Commencement Committee, has asked Campus
Pastor Maurice Lawson to deliver the baccalaureate address.
Other student speakers will be asked to give testimonials
at that time. Both faculty and student speakers will
be featured at the commencement services. Pamela Schultz
will interpret a dramatic piece of her own creation for
commencement, and David J. Healy (five years at Bethel)
has been invited to reminisce for the occasion. The audience
will be favored with solos by such campus favorites as Cathy
Rogness and Doug Toavs.
The request-for a student-planned commencement came
up at the last Board of Regents meeting in March. Ogimachi,
who was president-pro tem of the Student Senate,
brought the request to the Regents and President Carl
Lundquist. The request was granted immediately. The program
has already been approved by the dean's office. '
Some discontent was caused last year among seniors, as
, neither they nor the Convocation and Commencement Committee
was consulted in planning the services. This was
brought to the attention of students in a Clarion editorial
of last year. ~ ,
"We intend for this to be a more informal, but nevertheless
meaningful, commencement," said committee member
J ohnsoTI. "Though the valuable talents of many people were
not able to be included in the roster of speakers and
performers, we feel the talents represented are considerable.
We were particularly pleased that Pastor Lawson agreed
to give the baccalaureate address, as he has contrib~ted
much to Bethel over the years and will be leaving soon."
Blacks a't Bethel,'pa'rt III
Current blacks facing adiustments
by Steve Harris and Del 'Hampton
There are 1565 students at Bethel College in 1975. Only
seven of them are blacks, approximately 4"/0 of the entire
student body. What is it like for them as black people to be at
a predominantly white school? To get their response to that
question, six of the black students were interviewed. Below
are the questions and the summation of their answers.
Why did you come to Bethel:
The reasons that black students come to Bethel College
do not seem to differ from the reasons that other students
choose to study here: "I wanted a Christian perspective in
my education," "I wanted a , quality education," "sports,"
"my pastor advised me to come here," "to seek spiritual
growth and maturity," etc. Most of the blacks did not know
much about Bethel before they arrived on campus. For at
least one person it was a disappointment to find out how few
black folk go here. But "it was the Lord's working," that
person' said, "because if I had known that beforehand I
don't think I'd be here."
What problems did you face as a black person coming to
All of the black students agreed that being a black at
Bethel does involve one in certain problem situations. The
major problem seems to be what one person called "cultural
alienation." "Bethel is structured to meet the needs of a
certain type of people, 'usually middle-class or upper middle
class whites, Baptist General Conference people ... After
awhile you get sick of seeing the same white sea, of being the
only 'black sheep' in the crowd." Another said that they felt
"like guinea pigs," that "others always seem to be analyzing
us." Most of them said that in order to keep their identity
or "blackness" they need to get off campus periodically to
visit other blacks. "A black can lose his identity in a place
like Bethel," one person said. '~Their black identity can be
broken up and scattered very easily. That's why the black
needs to go somewhere and get 'blackness.' " Their search
for association with their black peer group leads all the
way from black churches, social gatherings with black
friends, to "just sitting down and listening to some good
black music."
Be'ing black in a white school also means putting up with
naivete and a "subconcious racism" that some white students
tend to express. "I have felt some ignorance about black
people in the students here," said one. "Other people sometimes
seem phony. They give ypu that big Bethel grin, and
say 'hi' but I wonder what they mean by it."
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"A lot of Bethelites are interested in learning 'about'
black folk," says I another, "but not getting 'to know' black
folk and being Christian brothers and sisters with them.
That's because their background has been sheltered and
because they are naive about certain things ... I frequently
get asked questions like 'how do you cut your hair?' or 'how
do you wash your hair?' or even 'do you sunburn?' After
awhile, that gets pretty old."
How do the blacks put up with this "ignorance?" Most
agree that you have to just put up with it and don't let other
people bother you. "I can't let the people who express that
type of ignorance become a stumbling block to me, although
'after awhile sometimes I have to just blow off steam. How?
Well, I usually get off campus or talk to some friends."
Another problem is that Bethel College, being whiteoriented,
has a White-oriented social format. "Blacks have
their own type of jive, their own type of social and party-life,"
explained one black studel1t. "I get bored sitting around
listening to KDWB and Larry Norman records. Once again,
. that's why I need to get off campus and find the social life I
Were you warmly received when you came to Bethel, or
do you feel that white students treated you differently?
All of the blacks interviewed agreed that they had been
warmly received. The fact that this is a Christian school was
mentioned as a factor in that acceptance. But there were
problems in this as well. Some resented "kid-glove" treatment
that was subconsciously expressed at times. "Some people
aren't sure how to rea.ct to me ... Some become overly-nice,
and that ' becomes tiring." But for the most part, all of them
felt that they had been openly received.
Has Bethel been a good experi'ence for you? In what
All of the black students agreed that Bettiel has been a
good experience for them. The factors which they mentioned
were varied: "It has been a good spiritual expeI'ience," "I've
learned about black sensitivity," "I learned about white folk,"
one student (jokingly) said that "coming· to Bethel has helped
me learn about Swedes." Another summed up the positive
aspects in this way: "I'm glad r came to Bethel. There is a
lot to be learned from what seem like bad experiences. I'm
not saying Bethel's a bad experience, though. It has done a
lot of good for me. I became a Christian here. And I learned
things about the relationship between blackness and whiteness
that I don't 'think I could have gotten at another school."
N ext week: The conclusion of this series will 'explore the
future of the black student at Bethel College.
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Baptist Geo.rgi Vins
arrested in -Russia
by Dan 'Cbalmers
"W'e are resolved to die"
These are the words that Georgi \rins' family stated after .
the second arrest of Georgi Vins. Georgi Vins was a member
of A.U.C.E.C.B., (All-Union Council of Evangelical Christians
and Baptists) until the Party began to infiltrate the Baptist
ranks. Some of the leaders felt it best to stay with the
recognized church and compromise with the state. But
Georgi, who saw no room for compromise, went underground
unrecognized by the state; thus putting him on the run or in
Georgi Vins was arrested the first time while staging a
mass demonstration ol;ltside the central committee office in
Moscow. Here are some of the charges for which he was
sentenced to long hard years in pri~on and labor camps.
1. Charged with. publishing literature and its mass distribution
2. Setting up Sunday schools for . children (illegal to teach
anyone anything b~t atheism if the person is under 18).
3. Mass demonstration on May 16-17 in front of Central
Committee building.
4. Parasite of the state. (Illegal not to hold down a
steady job).
5. Accused of putting God over state.
In his final defense after the state had read all this to
him, he responded with a poem. At one point in his reading,
he was interrupted by the judge and told to end his preaching
and the whole crowd laughed and mocked him.
The text of Georgi Vins' 'original poem follows:
Not for robbery, nor for gold
Do we stand before you.
Today, here, as in Pilate's day,
'Christ our Saviour is being judged ...
He hears the sorry threats,
He sees the trepidation of those people,
Whose hands have gathered tears
Of children, wives, and mothers.
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Forgetful of history's lessons,
they burn with desire to punish
Freedom of conscience and of faith
And the right to serve the Lord.
A silent guard binds round
The 'friends of Christ with steel ring,
But Christ himself inspires us
To stand serene before this court.
-, We call upon the Church of Christ
To tread the path of thorns,
We summon to a heavenly goal,
We challenge perfidy and lies .••
Georgi Vins has since been released, but in January
1975 he was again arrested. and sentens;ed to five years imprisonment
and five years exiie. This time- he was found
guilty for "using religion as a cloak for illegal activities."
There has been pressure put on the Soviet government
by various people of influence such as the World Council of
Churches and former Senator Harold Hughes of Iowa. At
this point, however, persons have not accomplished too much.
But, as Christial'ls, we at Bethel should exert our pressure
through prayer, a .petition and personal letters to our senators.
Our concern should be to put pressure on Soviet leadership to
free all those who have been imprisoned or persecuted for
the cause of Christ.
co'ntinued from page three
"If a task is once begun,
Never leave it till it's done
Be the labor great or small,
Do it well, or not at all."
If we cannot find the time or means to do an efficient
and thorough job, seeking the truth at any cost, we should
not ,even attempt. A half-done job can do more harm than
Like we said at the outset of this letter, we appreciate
and love you for the effort. However, our Christian love
cannot allow us to sit back and wa tch a sincere effort
wounded by some mistakes in judgment. I'm sure you. c~n
understand that.
Del Hampton
---The 'Black Populace of 'Bethel
AUka, Oarrie, Marcia
~baron, Gene, Terrell
Editor's note: We were greatly encouraged by this response
to our series, 'and are glad to announce that Del
Hampton agreed to co-author the 'article on page five of this
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'The Way performs
folk-rock on MOly 3
Maranatha! "The Way," a group formed
in 1971 at Calvary Chapel in Costa
Mesa, California will be in concert on
May 3, 1975 in the Bethel gymnasium
at 8 p.m.
"The Way" blends Christian content
with the folk-rock country music of today
in a fresh and original way. Their album
call~d "The Way" shot to the top of
the charts and registered as the No.
7 best selling gospel album of 1974.
A long anticipated second album "Can
It Be" will be produced by Albert Perkins,
famed steel guitarist with the Souther,
Hillman & Furay Band and released
on the Maranatha label.
The five musicians of "The Way" join
together in response to the need they
all feel to share their faith in their
own unique expression.
Tickets are $3 and $2.50 with an S.A.C.
and are available in advance or at the
Debbie Van Loon awarded NSF grant
Bethel alumna Debbie Van Loon has
been awarded a three-year National
Science Foundation fellowship for graduate
studies in anatomy at the University
of Minnesota, beginning this fall.
Debbie, who majored in biology with
chemistry and music cognates, is the
first Bethel graduate to receIve this
type of NSF grant especially designed
for beginning graduate students. Since
graduation a year ago she has been a
special instructor in the Department of
Biological Sciences while continuing
studies in biochemistry at Bethel.
Debbie' applied for the NSF grant
(which provides $3600 annually in living
continued on page eight
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Want to go to a bullfight? Want to
visit the schools of Mexico? Want to
go to the markets and bargain? Want
to attend church services in Spanish?
All this is possible if you join the
Bethel caravan to Mexico next Interim.
The Spanish department is making plans
to have a study tour of Mexico. The
tentative plans are to visit Mexico City, .
where we will visit the Palace of
Fine Arts, the zocalo, the national
cathedral, the national paalce, Chapultepec
park, museum of anthropology,
jai lai, a bull fight, markets, restaurants,
Protestant and Catholic churches,
the University of Mexico; archaeological
sites such as San Juan Teotihuacan (pyramids
to the sun and the moon) Tula
Cuernavaca, Taxco, and Acapulco. Interim
will end with five beautiful days
in the sun and waves.
These students will spend three hours
per day with the instructor in intensive
Spanish study. The remainder of the
day the student will spend his time
in the markets, in stores, on the street,
or in homes speaking and listening to
Spanish. At the end of the experience
the student should be able to converse
with strangers on simple topics. On days
when tours are planned the students
will all tour together.
Cost will be $600-$700 including a $50
deposit. Note, however, that this includes
Interim tuition fee. If the stuaent provides
his own tran~portation, the cost
would be reduced considerably.
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Recent robberies
plague campus;
caution advised
by Sharon Erickson
Two wheels and tires . . . windshield
wiper, 38 eight-track tapes ... bjkes,
Tape players ... money,
Townhouse sump pump ... records and
books and numerous other items.
According to a survey taken about
three weeks ago by the Student Affairs
Office, about 100 items ranging
from cars and bikes to food and underwear
have been taken during the last
two months from the parking lots, academic
buildings, dorms, town houses
and PE center. Dr. Mack Nettleton, director
of student affairs, said that most
of the thefts were from the parking
lots, and that he hoped most of them
were done by non-Bethel people. "We
can't assume that our community has
done it every time something happens,
but we're not so naive as to think that
we're a perfect community, either," he
said. "It's not realistic to think that
no one here is tempted to take something
of someone else's."
Nettleton said that the Bethel community
needs to realize two things in
order to prevent more thefts. First, we
need to recognize that we are accessible
to off-campus people, even though Bethel
is rather isolated. Second, we tend to
be trusting of the Christian atmosphere
and are careless about possessions.
"Carelessness makes us vulnerable and
I am convinced that people come' here
and take things because they know that,"
said Dr. Nettleton.
While Bethel's rate of theft is much
lower than that of other schools, it needs
to be decreased even further. Dr. Nettleton
said that the Arden Hills police
have been asked to patrol the campus
more often, and there is a security guard
on duty at night outside the buildings.
Cars should be kept locked, and the
responsibility for protecting possesssions
at school and in the residences rests
on their owners, he said. He urged students
to lock their doors when no one
is home, be careful about leaving articles
around school, and warned girls not to
leave their purses lying around.
To help guard against thefts, Dr. Nettleton
suggested that the Bethel community
"recognize theft as a regular
problem and be alert to it. Be careful
all the time, not just when someone
loses something."
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Malle Chorus
sings o'nd sells
by Wayne Pauluk
The members of the Male Chorus are
happy to announce the release of their
new record, Hallelujah, Amen. This record
includes all the songs of the Male
Chorus 1975 concert program. Among
the favorites are: The Battle Hymn of
the Republic; Swing Low, Sweet Chariot;
When I survey the Wondrous Cross and
Why Isn't Everybody Singing Allelu?
The record will be on sale next week
at a table by the Post Office. The price
is $5.95.
The Chorus members hope this record
will be enjoyable and uplifting. They
also would like to thank Dennis Kannanen
for designing the album cover,
and Mr. Mogck for his work in coordinating
the production.
Minnesota Ch,orale
pe,rforms Saturday
The Minnesota Chorale, conducted by
Robert Berglund, will perform at Orchestra
Hall on May 3 at 8 p.m. The 140-
voice choral group with members of
the Minnesota Orchestra will present two
of the most beautiful choral works ever
written - Mozart's Requiem Mass and
Schubert's Mass in G. Soloists will be
Jeanne Traun, soprano; Emma Small,
alto; Clifton Ware, tenor and LeRoy
Lehr, bass.
A limited number of tickets are available
in the Music Office (FA302) at
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expenses and $3000 to the University for
tuition purposes) and did so "for the
fun of it." She feels her area of study
in anatomy was the prime factor in getting
the grant. Achieving a 4.0 (straight
A) average while a student at Bethel
undoubtedly strengthened her application
As to her motivation for graduate
school, Debbie responded that "Biology
is something I enjoy and my work in
this area seems to be more fruitful compared
to others I have tried. The Lord
has used this year of teaching to convince
me that the place He has for me,
at least for the present, is graduate
school. Some day I can see myself
teaching at the college level eithe.r in a
liberal arts institution or a , medical
school situation. I'm excited about learn- ,
ing and being in a peer group where I
can ask questions and share ideas with
others of similar interests."
Bethel chemistry ~rofessor Paul Tavernier
is equally pleased over Debbie's
grant: "It is not often that one has the
opportunity to work with such an exceptionally
bright person. Debbie has
many talents and yet has not achieved
her full potential. She is one of the
most promising students I have worked
with in the past several years and I ant
extremely pleased that she has the desire
and <?pportunity to continue her
studies. "
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The tennis team will take , on Concordia
this afternoon on the home courts
in an effort to chalk up five conference
victories this season.
The team has so far compiled a 4-0
conference record (6-2 non-conference)
with five of last year's top six back .
.Bill DeVoe again is number one singles
and is joined by Paul Reasoner, Dan
Joling, Greg Kuntz, Lanny Law and Dana
Hofseth. Freshman Greg Kuntz has been
impressive in the number four singles
and currently is unbeaten.
The team will host River Falls on
Tuesday at 3 p.m. The Royals will be
out to repeat an earlier victory and
tune-up for the Conference championship
to be held next Saturday at Bethel.
Bethel 3 St. Thomas 6
Bethel 8 River Falls 1
Bethel 9 Northwestern 0
Bethel 8 Westmar 1
Bethel 9 Yankton 0
Bethel 8 Sioux Falls 1
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Softball team to play at home
Carleton and St. Olaf squashed the
women's softball team Saturday under
sloppy field conditions. The score was
16-7 against Carleton and 14-6 after five
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Cindy Martin, freshman, pitched both
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team's downfall was its inexperienced
defense. Only three squaft members have
previously played colle~softball.
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beno and Carla Gustafson. All three have
.400 averages or better.
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as the team meets Gustavus
Adolphus tomorrow in a double header,
there, at 11. Next Monday and TJ'lUrsday,
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and Concordia at Rosebrook Field, at
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men's State Softball Tournament is at
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Bethel's Craig Oslin hurls against Westmar in
last Saturday's doubleheader.
Royals win first,
split with Westmar
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Heavy winds and occasional showers could not interfere
with the eternal optimism of Coach Jack Trager at last
Saturday's doubleheader with Westmar College. "Great
day for a game, isn't it?" yelled J.T. to the Westmar
coach. "Sure, whatever you say, Jack," was the expected
But Trager's optimism was only good enough for a
split. The Royals dropped the first game, 3-1, but came
back to win the second game, 1-0.
Craig Oslin put in a fine performance in the first
game, only to see his teammates throw the game away with
four errors in the second inning. The disastrous second inning
turned out to be the killer, as Westmar scored two runs on
no hits.
Bethel's only score also came in the second inning when
Dale Witherington came up with one out and the bases
empty. Witherington bounced one between the third baseman's
legs and took first on the error. On the next pitch
he ,.,stole second and then proceeded on to third on a base
hit by Scott Logan. A double steal attempt proved successful
as Logan broke for second and Witherington ran home on
the throw to second. Bethel's only other scoring attempt
came in the fifth inning when Logan unloaded a long, fly
ball to deep right field. But the ball curved foul as it flew
over the fence.
The second game found Bethel in the winner's seat for
the first time this year, as Don Paterson pitched a four-hit
shutout. Paterson walked only one and struck out eight
Westmar players.
Bethel's sCQring came in the first inning when Kevin
Hallstrom led off with a single to right. Marshall Shelley
sacrificed him to second on a perfect bunt. Hallstrom then
advanced to third on a ground out by Terry Karlsgodt.
That brought up Logan, who seemed to be the only Royal
besides Shelley that had been hitting the ball that day.
Logan answered the situation with a base hit that brought
Hallstrom home for the winning run.
Hallstrom, Shelley and Logan each had two hits for
the Royals, with Witherington and Dave "The Rave" Peterson
each getting a hit apiece. The split puts the Royals' conference
record at 1-3 and an overall record of 1-7. The
team's next home game will be tomorrow at 1 p.m. against
Sioux Falls College.
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and a corresponding weakness in other events, the Royals
took fourth place Saturday among eight teams at the Bethel·
Macalester Relays.
Bethel went scoreless in eight events, but was first in
the sprint medley and two-mile relays, second in the dis ..
tance medley relay and fourth in both mile and 440-yard
relays. Concordia-Moorhead literally ran away with top honors
(129.5 points), followed by St. John's ,91, Hamline 73.5, Bethel
58, Macalester 32, Augsburg and Gustavus 30, and Concordia-
St. Paul 4 (Bethel was fourth in 1974 against the
same teams) .
Bruce Peterson's 6.5 points made him high scorer for the
Royals. Most of the squad was satisfied with the day's
performance, considering the rain intermittent with gusting
winds of 30 to 40 miles per hour.
In spite of weather conditions, three school records were
broken. Jeff Larson bettered Bethel's old two·mile record
by almost six seconds, as he finished in 9 :48.6. Dave Clapp,
Bill and Steve Whittaker and John Cox slashed 19 seconds
from the previous school record (8 :16.8) in the two.mile
relay, running it in 7 :57.5. The distance medley relay team -
Steve Whittaker, Larry Caldwell, Cox and Clapp - ran
that event in 10 :35.2, also breaking a school rcord (10 :43.0) .
Macalester is the site of tomorrow's meet with Macalester,
University of Minnesota-Duluth, Moorhead, and Golden
Valley at 1 :30. That will be the Royals' final contest
before the Tri-State Conference Meet May 10.
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Drawbridges were, at one time, new technology. We're way past that now. What we need is mecha able to transform from city-defending robots into bridges, as envisioned by this sculpture — appropriately from Pittsburgh, a.k.a. the "City of Bridges."
The piece, designed by Glenn Kaino, looks like a modern version of the Roberto Clemente bridge just down the street. The piece's called "ARCH" in a clear homage to the Transformers, of which this could easily be a new character. Our only question — would you drive across a robotic bridge? (Hat tip to Vince Keenan for the pics!)


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Rage Against the Machine earned acclaim from disenfranchised fans (and not insignificant derision from critics) for their bombastic, fiercely polemical music, which brewed sloganeering leftist rants against corporate America, cultural imperialism, and government oppression into a Molotov cocktail of punk, hip-hop, and thrash. Rage formed in Los Angeles in the early '90s out of the wreckage of a number of local groups: vocalist Zack de la Rocha (the son of Chicano political artist Beto) emerged from the bands Headstance, Farside, and Inside Out; guitarist Tom Morello (the nephew of Jomo Kenyatta, the first Kenyan president) originated in Lock Up; and drummer Brad Wilk played with future Pearl Jam frontman Eddie Vedder. Rounded out by bassist Tim Bob (aka Tim C., born Tim Commerford), a childhood friend of de la Rocha's, Rage debuted in 1992 with a self-released, self-titled 12-song cassette featuring the song "Bullet in the Head," which became a hit when reissued as a single later in the year.
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Plans for a live album were announced shortly thereafter, but in October, de la Rocha abruptly announced his departure from the band, citing breakdowns in communication and group decision-making. Surprised but not angry, the remainder of Rage announced plans to continue with a new vocalist, while de la Rocha re-focused on his solo album, which was slated to include collaborations with acclaimed hip-hop artists including DJ Shadow and El-P of Company Flow. December 2000 saw the release of de la Rocha's final studio effort with the band, the Rick Rubin-produced Renegades; it featured nearly a dozen covers of hip-hop, rock, and punk artists like EPMD, Bruce Springsteen, Devo, The Rolling Stones, the MC5, and more. By 2001, Morello, Wilk, and Commerford had formed Audioslave with former Soundgarden frontman Chris Cornell, and the group released an eponymous album by the end of 2002. With a de la Rocha solo album still not announced, Epic finally released the long-promised concert album Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium on CD and DVD in time for Christmas 2003. – Jason Ankeny


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Howard Kurtz finds there are news nuggets in the tough, often tacky blog world
Monday, October 18, 2010
I didn't get into journalism to write about Brett Favre's private parts, and I suspect most of my colleagues would like that story ruled out of bounds.
But our ability to spike such tawdry tales ended many seasons ago. The story of whether Favre sent racy messages and pictures of what family newspapers call genitalia to a female New York Jets staffer started on the snarky sports blog Deadspin, and was soon propelled to the 50-yard line of MSM Stadium. If the sexting allegations against the veteran quarterback are true, Deadspin may have performed an admittedly distasteful public service.
Amid a deluge of angry e-mails, one reader wrote: "I used to visit your site for sports but now consider it to be on par with the National Enquirer." But it was the Enquirer that broke the Tiger Woods scandal, which involved a lot more than phone flirting and has mired the golfer's career in a sand trap.
In an era when sports figures from Kobe Bryant to Rick Pitino have had to own up to extramarital activities, private behavior has increasingly come under the media microscope. Many people feel it's none of our business, and perhaps they're right that off-the-court misbehavior is overly magnified in this TMZ era. But when charges are hurled and investigations launched, the situation becomes impossible to ignore -- as happened with Woods, and Ben Roethlisberger, and now Favre.
Deadspin went with the initial allegations involving Jenn Sterger -- who became an in-house sideline reporter for the Jets in 2008 after doing photo shoots for Playboy and Maxim -- without solid evidence. No mainstream news organization would have done that. Deadspin Editor A.J. Daulerio wrote in August that he had tried to get Sterger to go public with what she had told him privately. Sterger never quite agreed to that, although she did tell Daulerio in an e-mail that "if there is a way to expose this dude for the creepy [jerk] he is WITHOUT me being attached to it in any way that is fine." But he decided to attach her to it anyway, as well as publish their private correspondence, and that feels like a betrayal.
Daulerio says in an interview that he was "very transparent" about what happened with Sterger: "She was 100 percent on board about exposing Brett Favre in this way. She didn't want her name attached because she feared the backlash." Still, he admits he was unfair to Sterger.
The story didn't get much pickup outside the Web, and properly so. There was little to back it up. That changed on Oct. 7, when Deadspin obtained the alleged voice mails and texts sent by Favre, who was the Jets' quarterback at the time and now plays for the Minnesota Vikings.
Even in publishing what it called the "penis photos" (the headline used a much cruder term), Deadspin acknowledged that "yes, there's a possibility that the person communicating with Jenn was not actually Brett Favre, but rather someone trying very hard to appear to be him." In other words, Deadspin ran a story that might be untrue.
"There was no real hesitation about pulling the trigger, but I knew there was a remote, remote possibility this was orchestrated by someone impersonating Brett Favre," Daulerio says. Asked about criticism of his methods, he tells detractors to perform an anatomically impossible act, adding: "Some people just want to be scolds and tell us how we did the story wrong and violated journalistic ethics. But they don't feel too bad about talking about it now."
Yet it doesn't take an ivory-tower scold to object to Deadspin's checkbook journalism. Daulerio acknowledges that the site paid a third party a significant sum for the texts and pictures, more money than on the previous two occasions when he paid for stories.
"It's obviously been a worthwhile investment," Daulerio says. He sounds less than comfortable, though, conceding that "it's kind of shady. But I was very, very eager to get this story."
Little wonder, then, that Deadspin has been getting such e-mails as "i have 2 topless pictures of katie perry. . . . i am trying to sell them."


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Learn to build and manage your friends list using the Xbox Console Companion app.
One of the best features of Xbox Live is the ability to find friends for an online game. As you build your list of friends by sending and accepting friend requests, you'll see the same list no matter which game you play. You can have up to 1,000 friends. Having people on your friends list allows you to quickly find friends online and get set for your next gaming adventure.
Find people to add as friends
Use the Find people or clubs box at the top on the friends list on the right side of the screen to quickly find an existing friend by gamertag, or by their real name if they're sharing it with you. In addition, you can search by game name to quickly see which of your friends are playing a particular game.
If you search for the gamertag of a player who's currently not your friend, your friends list will display the message "No matching friends. Select the Search button to search all of Xbox."
This player will immediately show up on your friends list, but to them, you will only show up as a follower until they also add you as a friend.
Friends of friends
You can also find new friends by looking at your current friend's followers:
On the top of your friends list, you will see a short list of suggested friends. These are people you know, played with recently, or who recently started following you. This also will include some of the top community contributors on Twitch. This list is designed so that you can quickly add any of the suggested players as a friend or remove them from your Suggestions list.
The following options to apply to Suggestions:
To change your relationship with a friend from the Xbox Console Companion app:
Note When you remove a friend from your friends list, you're not removed from their friends list by default. If you don't want that player to see your activities or interact with you, you can block that player.
If necessary, you can block or report a player from the Xbox Console Companion app. Blocking keeps the player from seeing your activity feed or interacting with you. Reporting is a way of notifying Xbox Enforcement of an abusive player. For more info, see the following guides:
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