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Herman Cain's wife says the claims of sex harassment against the GOP presidential candidate don't ring true because he "totally respects women."
Gloria Cain told Fox News' Greta Van Susteren: "I'm thinking he would have to have a split personality to do the things that were said."
In an interview to be aired Monday during the show "On the Record," Gloria Cain said she can't believe the claims he harassed women when he led the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s.
"To hear such graphic allegations and know that that would have been something that was totally disrespectful of her as a woman and I know that's not the person he is," she said. "He totally respects women."
Excerpts of the interview were released Sunday.
Four women have now accused Herman Cain of sexually harassing them when he led the National Restaurant Association. He has denied wrongdoing and has been trying to move forward in his presidential campaign.
Cain's wife of 43 years is often described as "gentle" and "the nicest woman you'll ever meet."
The two were married in 1968, have two adult children _ a daughter, Melanie, and a son, Vincent _ and grandchildren.


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Developer gets okay to do infrastructure
Council action makes Terry Jessen eligible for TIF funds.
City officials won't have the headache of overseeing the installation of streets, sewer and water in Gothenburg's newest subdivision.
Terry Jessen, developer of Terry's Business Park, got the green light from local city council members to do it privately.
Once the Scottsbluff accountant completes the infrastructure for a motel and development of other lots on property west of Super 8 motel, he will sell it to the city for $5.The city, in turn, will maintain and operate improvements in the subdivision following an inspection.
What's in it for Jessen?
If he does the work, he's eligible for tax-increment financing.
TIF supports projects like Jessen's by allowing the tax revenue generated by the property to help pay for its development.
On Monday, Jessen said there is also potential cost savings in doing the work privately because of bonding issues—if the city was involved—and more paperwork.
However he said he still needs state approval.
The developer said he and his work crew have already done some dirt work for infrastructure but will subcontract for paving and installation of water and sewer.
Jessen has been developing 63 acres of land along with Diana Unterseher. They are from Scottsbluff.
The Gothenburg City Council approved a construction infrastructure agreement with Jessen at its Sept. 15 meeting.
It spells out what is required of Jessen and the city.
Basically, Jessen must follow engineer specifications in installing the infrastructure and retain a professional engineer so improvements conform to city code in addition to other things.
Miller & Associates Consulting Engineers of Kearney, the city's engineer, has reviewed the requirements.
City attorney Mike Bacon said the agreement protects the city if the installation is not completed according to spelled-out specifications.
Theoretically, the cost to the city will be the same whether or not Jessen does the work, according to city administrator Bruce Clymer.
Zero dollars.
"If we put it in, we would assess those costs to him," Clymer said. "If he puts it in, then he pays for the cost and we simply accept the project once it has met city standards."
During open forum at the meeting, Clymer asked the council to look at some proposed changes on a welcome sign into the city south of the overpass.
Concerns have been raised about the visibility of words etched on the stone marker.
In other action, the council approved a deed of conservation easement that allows Gothenburg Improvement Company to sell irrigation rights on land it owns.
The action will help GIC pay debt on the property, located at the east end of a once-proposed ethanol site, and still keep the area as an industrial tract.
Council members also granted a Gothenburg Chamber of Commerce request for a special license so Central Nebraska Seed& Chemical can serve alcohol at a business-after-hours event on Oct. 3.
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Attorney General Martha Coakley's Office Announces That Former Somerville Lawyer is Sentenced to 2 - 3 Years in State Prison in Connection with Mortgage Stacking Scheme
While practicing as a real estate lawyer in Somerville and Medford, Carey engaged in a scheme called "mortgage stacking" on four residential properties he or his family members owned. The scheme involved serially refinancing the loans on these properties, without paying off the existing loans. Carey was also the agent for a New England title insurance company which allowed him to issue title insurance policies on mortgage transactions he processed. Title insurance policies protect lenders in the event that there are defects in the title of the property.
On various occasions between April 2002 through September 2004, Carey performed the functions of closing attorney on mortgage loans on each of the properties involved. Carey "stacked" three mortgages on a home in Medford, two mortgages each on two different properties in Everett, and one mortgage on his personal residence in Medford. Carey also falsified information on mortgage loan applications by omitting certain mortgages on the various properties, and also signed a family member's name on false mortgage applications and closing documents he created. When he received the proceeds of the loans, Carey did not pay off the existing mortgages on these properties, but rather used the funds for his own benefit. Carey issued title insurance policies or commitments in connection with the transactions, and the lenders were therefore protected, but ultimately the title insurance company suffered the financial loss. As a result of this scheme Carey stole over $2 million.
The lenders remained unaware of the problem because Carey continued to make monthly payments on all of the loans. In November 2005, a database search by Fannie Mae flagged the multiple mortgages on one of the properties, triggering a notification to one of the lenders. The lender then notified the title insurance company of the problem. Lawyers for the title insurance company then referred the matter to the Attorney General's Office in March 2006.
A Middlesex Grand Jury returned indictments against Carey on August 21, 2008. On September 12, 2008, Carey was arraigned in Middlesex Superior Court at which time he entered a plea of not guilty and was released on personal recognizance. Carey entered a change of plea to guilty in Middlesex Superior Court on September 28, 2009. Today, Carey was sentenced in Bristol Superior Court, where Superior Court Judge D. Lloyd MacDonald was presiding.
This case was prosecuted by Assistant Attorney General Margaret Parks of Attorney General Martha Coakley's Corruption and Fraud Division, and was investigated by State Police assigned to the Attorney General's Office and Investigator Carl Mullen of Attorney General Martha Coakley's Financial Investigations Division. Postal Inspector Daniel Bonda of the United States Postal Inspection Service also assisted in the case.


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By STU ELLIS
The drought of 2012 will be long remembered by everyone in agriculture. It has impacted farmers whose crops will yield well less than normal, and some will have no crop. It will eventually impact consumers because they will have higher prices for meat that will be diminished in supply. The drought will impact rural grain elevators which will have less volume to handle, and will need fewer employees to work during the press of harvest. The drought will affect the trucking industry because there will be fewer loads of grain to haul to processors.
It will affect the U.S. economy and have an impact that could rival a long, high spike in oil prices. One would think the U.S. Department of Agriculture would have been on top of it all.
The USDA could have guided people to resources here, provided emergency programs there, and softened some of the regulations that would have freed up resources for those in need.
Climate specialists and meteorologists have said the drought began a year ago. Currently, Illinois topsoil is 99 percent very short of moisture and the subsoil is 97 percent very short of moisture. That does not happen overnight, so there is some basis for their estimate of when the drought began. But the USDA did not acknowledge this devastating phenomenon of nature until this past July 11 when it released the July World Agricultural Supply and Demand Estimate and statisticians reduced the official USDA corn yield estimate by 20 bushels per acre. That drop did not happen overnight. After the projection of diminished yields by the USDA, the departments policy staff then announced that three regulations would be eased slightly, but not wholly.
Then the White House wanted daily briefings from the secretary of agriculture about what it was doing about the drought. The USDA is almost playing a surreal game of catch-up, but has a long way to go to meet the needs of the boys on the tractor and in the pasture where the soil is dry and where the economy will feel the pain. And the USDAs response so far to some simple requests from farmers and livestock producers is mindful of the inflexibility of the bureaucratic structure that helped cause the collapse of the Soviet Union.
I had the opportunity to visit the agricultural heartland of Russia in late June 1986, a few weeks following the Chernobyl mishap. But in the prime farming area where state-operated farms were raising crops and livestock there was also a drought under way. Crops showed stress, and pastures were barren, and the manager of the farm was asked the obvious question: You have irrigation equipment in the fields, why is it not being used?
The response was that it was not allowed by the Five Year Plan until Aug. 1, so there were five more weeks that crops would have to suffer until rules would allow the irrigation to be turned on.
U.S. livestock producers even those in Central Illinois whose pastures are brown have been told that Conservation Reserve Acres, which are composed of grass, cannot be used for either livestock grazing or be baled for hay until Aug. 2, because that is the end of the traditional nesting season.
If the USDA had the flexibility to respond to the drought, it could have assisted livestock producers in one of two ways. On one hand, it could have responded that the economy is more important than the potential of ground-nesting birds being in that area. Or the USDA could have consulted wildlife authorities who would likely have said with the early 2012 spring, the nesting season came early and ground-nesting birds have not been in their nests for the past six weeks.
The USDAs rule book seems to be a carbon copy of the Soviets Five Year Plan, which is no longer in print.
Stu Ellis is a long time editor and observer of the Central Illinois agriculture scene. Keep up with him on his blog at www.herald-review.com.
Guys, I have corn fields on three sides of my home. Those three fields look like the 1939 novel "The Grapes of Wrath" written by John Steinbeck and made into a movie by John Ford in 1940. In our area alone we are 12" short on rainfall for the year. So the little you are starting to see on the National news now will probably hit full on about the end of September or the beginning of October. This will not be good for either side
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So basically this article you posted is saying that farmers need a gov't bailout?
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farmers are not GM or "to big to fail banks"
Agriculture giant ADM, based here in Decatur, just announced yesterday that starting next week layoffs will begin taking place. I'll bet that will snowball to other business quickly. But, will this cause a rise in unemployment, probably so. So the now 8.2% may soon become 9 or 10% by November? Who knows where this economy will end up at next with this coming like a fast freight train at it.
Government bailouts? Get real these guys are farmers are not GM or "to big to fail banks". So look for a lot of farms to be foreclosed on in the next year or so.
Check out this CNN article--> http://buzz.money.cnn.com/2012/07/31...oybean-prices/
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GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba – Lawyers for the five Guantanamo Bay prisoners charged in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks want to know if U.S. government officials have been eavesdropping on their private conversations with the defendants.
The evidence for any such listening, the subject of a hearing scheduled to start Monday at this U.S. base in Cuba, is circumstantial.
At a hearing Jan. 28, the sound system in the Guantanamo courtroom was suddenly cut, to the surprise of even the judge. The judge later revealed that a government official, from an agency that the military has refused to disclose, was following the proceedings from outside the courtroom and intervened to prevent the potential release of classified information.
The judge, Army Col. James Pohl, later said the information was not classified and he ordered the undisclosed government agency to disconnect any equipment that could unilaterally cut the sound. He also released a transcript of the censored remarks.
But since the Jan. 28 incident, lawyers for the defendants say they have become more concerned about possible additional monitoring that they say would violate attorney-client privilege and make it impossible for them to represent men charged with aiding and planning the Sept. 11 attacks. At the hearing, they will be asking the judge to halt all proceedings until the issue is resolved.
"What happened in the courtroom (on Jan. 28) was shocking," Army Capt. Jason Wright, one of the lawyers for lead defendant Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, said Sunday. "There was a wizard behind the curtain who had the power to completely cut off the audio feed to the proceedings, to censor what was being said in court. It would be foolish for us to not consider that capability in other areas where we interact with the accused."
One concern is the audio system inside the high-tech courtroom overlooking Guantanamo Bay. The microphones at each defense table are so sensitive that officials are apparently capable of hearing even whispered conversations between the defense lawyers and their clients, attorney James Connell said. Other lawyers said they are also worried about possible monitoring of their conversations in rooms where they meet with the defendants.
The chief prosecutor, Army Brig. Gen. Mark Martins, said there is no evidence of any monitoring.
"My staff and I spent a full week diligently running every rumor to ground, and I can say unequivocally that no entity of the United States government is listening to, monitoring or recording communications between the five accused and their counsel at any location," Martins said Sunday.
Mohammed, the self-professed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, and the four other defendants are being tried by a military commission, which is a special tribunal for wartime offenses that includes elements of a court martial and a civilian court. They face charges that include nearly 3,000 counts of murder and terrorism for their alleged roles planning and aiding the 2001 terrorist attacks and could get the death penalty if convicted.
Proceedings are being held in a specially built courtroom in which the spectators, including journalists, observers from human rights groups and relatives of people killed in the Sept. 11 attacks, watch from being sound-proof glass and hear an audio feed that goes through a 40-second delay so a security official inside the court can cut the sound if any classified material is said out loud.
Martins said the use of a 40-second delay is necessary to protect information such as intelligence sources and methods that have been legitimately classified to protect national security. Defense lawyers and other critics of the proceedings say the government is seeking to cover up details about the harsh treatment of defendants that amounted to torture.


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Welcome to the Christian Educators of the 20th Century web-based database. This site provides access to information about the people who have shaped the field of Christian religious education in North America throughout the 20th Century. The database covers Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox religious education leaders. It is overseen by an editorial board consisting of Christian religious education scholars from a variety of denominational backgrounds. The database contains entries on approximately 215 persons.
Each person's entry in the Christian Educators of the 20th Century database includes:
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This project, funded by The Lilly Endowment and hosted by Talbot School of Theology, Biola University, is intended to serve the needs of faculty, students, and other researchers in the field of Christian education who desire to better understand who and what has shaped the development of Christian education during the last century and up to the present. We stand on the shoulders of those who have come before us, and we inherit educational ministry approaches that have been shaped by the contexts and issues of previous generations. This project provides access to the kind of resources necessary for sound historical research that can help challenge and guide the ongoing development of effective educational ministry in the local church. May God's people use it to God's glory.
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Texas Panhandle Wildfire Destroys About 75 Homes
FRITCH, Texas (AP) — Emergency officials say about 75 homes are destroyed and hundreds of people have evacuated the area after a wildfire burned up to 2 square miles in the Texas Panhandle.
The Texas Department of Public Safety said in an email late Sunday that no one has been hurt in the fire near Fritch, some 30 miles northeast of Amarillo.
Fritch Police Chief Monte Leggett says 75 percent of the fire has been contained as of Monday morning.
Hutchinson County emergency management coordinator Danny Richards says about 75 homes are destroyed and hundreds of the town's 2,100 residents have left the area. Some stayed at a school gymnasium.
The National Weather Service says winds were gusting up to 30 mph in the area early Monday with temperatures in the 40s.


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While still maintaining the product line's general aesthetic from its previous generations, Zero Motorcycles has refined and polished its electric motorcycles for 2012. This is primarily due to the Zero's limited amount of time to further develop its 2011 models for the 2012 model year (roughly nine months says the Californian company), but still Zero has been able to revise most of the Zero S's components to warrant this year's models to be visually and functionally set apart from its predecessors.
This bodes well for Zero Motorcycles, because bluntly, the startup has had extremely unrefined and unpolished motorcycles from its inception to the 2011 model year (if you heard otherwise from somewhere else, they were trying to sell you something). Walking up to the 2012 Zero S, it is immediately clear that the electric motorcycle has been touched by people who understand motorcycles. Gone are the on/off switches marked in Sharpie (I wish I was making this up), though you'd be hard-pressed to find top-shelf components on the Zero line. This makes for a mixed response regarding the bike, from a visual perspective.


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Canucks Preview: Future Watch
The Canucks organization has historically been a rather poor judge of character through the draft.
The cupboard has in reality been very bare for many years. Names like Patrick White and Josh Holden hardly roll off the tongue. The last few years has seen some improvement, with picks such as Kesler and Schneider, but the organization's penchant for frequently fixating on smaller skill players has yet to provide real fruit.
Whether Jordan Schroeder and Cody Hodgson can change this remains to be seen. However, some recent creativity in tapping other outlets, such as college and junior free agents, in addition to the draft has enhanced the farm depth.
Chris Tanev can still be considered a prospect as he was not a regular choice when the team was fully healthy, and played essentially when injury concerns pressed him into service.
This past season and playoff cameo appearances allowed his mature and confident game to shine. Naturally, he is the closest to becoming a regular and he looks to have spent his off-season wisely devoted to fitness and bulking up, with ten pounds of added muscle. This will help immensely as he pushes to get an extended run on the third pairing of the Canucks defence.
Exhibiting a preternatural calm, in defiance of his age, Tanev gives the back end an injection of youth and playoff experience with the big club.
Darren Archibald is a newer player in the Canucks system that has the potential to outpace better known organization prospects including Schroeder. He was signed as an overage player who already had experienced camps with the Blue Jackets and Red Wings.
A look at his junior career stats show a winger with terrific size and scoring touch, who actually improved his point per game average in the playoffs, as compared to the regular seasons.
Archibald is one to watch, and this opinion was cemented by some impressive displays during the recent rookie team tournament.
Eddie Lack could well be the most important prospect in the Canucks organization. He has impressive size for a goalie and uses it well while aggressively positioning himself in the crease.
If his development continues to run smoothly this year with the Chicago Wolves, he may convince Mike Gillis that he has extra bargaining power to make a deal with one of his two senior net minders to pick up some more forward support for another spring run at the Stanley Cup.
Nicklas Jensen is very young, but could be in the big leagues within a couple of years thanks to the powerful motivation of joining Jannik Hansen as one of a handful of Danes to crack NHL rosters. If Lack is perhaps the most important prospect to the organization currently, then Jensen may just be the best long term candidate for stardom.
He has a strong hockey pedigree with a father who played 3 seasons in the OHL.
He also demonstrates an unusual maturity for his age, making his own decision to move back to Canada to compete with the Oshawa Generals for his draft year, which saw him go 29th overall in the first round. Jensen has great size, speed to burn, good sense, and the desire to succeed that could see him become the steal of the draft.


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text: British artist Karl Hyde, a member of the electronic music group Underworld, is known for producing visual installations for his band's stage performances. Off stage, he creates large-scale, abstract paintings he claims are inspired by the visual marks seen in his mind while dancing onstage. These markings are then translated to paper in a style reminiscent of Japanese Zen calligraphy (highly based on meditation), wherein Hyde visualizes his gestures prior to beginning the work. Hyde will often achieve the thickness of his brushstrokes by combining many smaller brushes into one, a dramatic effect he says is meant to evoke loud, violent dancing. In Dancing in the Wind (2010), Hyde incorporates graphite, soft pastel, and charcoal into an acrylic painting named for its frenetic, gestural energy.


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No April Fool's Joke – Snow and Messy Roads For April 1
Luckily the threat of a quarter of an inch of ice didn't develop and ice remained somewhat limited on roadways in the Twin Ports, but windy and snowy conditions have developed overnight and will hang around through the day today, leading the National Weather Service to extend their winter weather advisory until 4 pm today (Tuesday, April 1).
Snow and blowing snow will continue today, bringing 2-4 inches of new snowfall. The greater concern is reduced visibility due to a strong wind accompanying this storm. Low visibility and snow-covered roads will make travel difficult through the day today. Snow is expected to subside late this afternoon.
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People with untreated mental illnesses don't fund political campaigns or employ powerful lobbyists. It was easy for Washington and other states to skimp on their care after the economy went south five years ago.
It's taken a whack with a two-by-four – an onslaught of preventable assaults and murders – to persuade some lawmakers that psychiatric care for the poor is not a luxury that can be dropped in hard times.
The massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School was the catalyst. The killer may or may not have suffered from a psychosis, but – following other atrocities in Colorado and elsewhere – he taught the country how dangerous a disturbed man with a deadly weapon can be.
Three priorities need action from Legislature this year: care, involuntary commitment and access to guns. The three are closely interconnected.
Above all, the state must provide more therapy options to more people. People with serious psychiatric disorders tend to be poor, for obvious reasons. Few can afford the intensive treatment and continuing care they need.
Mental illness should not be equated with threat. The vast majority of those who live with some kind of disorder are harmless. But a small fraction – notably males with schizophrenia, a history of drug abuse and a record of violence – account for more than their share of attacks on others. They are especially prominent in mass shootings.
Lawmakers can lower that threat through simple humanity, by making psychiatric care more accessible to everyone who needs it but can't pay for it. That means expanded outpatient therapy and case management, and it may mean restoring beds at Western State and Eastern State hospitals.
Involuntary commitment is part of this picture. Court-ordered treatment is necessary for those whose grave illnesses leave them resistant to care yet dangerous.
The 2010 Legislature wisely relaxed what had been ridiculous legal obstacles to involuntary commitment – but it didn't pay for the additional treatment required. It's time to sign the check.
It's also time to require practitioners to alert police when they spot signs that a patient is potentially explosive. The bar for purchasing firearms should be high for such patients. Involuntary commitment is the usual disqualifier, but that happens far too rarely to flag most dangerous cases.
No judge in the state or federal judiciaries has ever held that a mentally ill and potentially dangerous man has a constitutional right to bear arms. And few of the severely sick will refuse treatment just to preserve their gun-buying privileges; they tend to have far larger worries.
Advocates do disturbed people no favors by defending their access to weapons. Lawmakers do the state no favors by denying them help.


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It looks like it would be a good game, but I am just not willing to pay for the book. I will see if the library has it.
My group tends more towards real world games when PC's end up playing, things like cribbage, poker, craps, 10,000 you get it. Wouldn't mind giving that a shot though, if it were simple and easy to pick up on the spot.
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I actually played it. A year ago, give or take a month the store owner busted it out, its actually pretty easy to pick up. You grab a card and thats your hero, i honestly thought it was fun, though a problem I had with it is there is no depth to it, but if you're waiting on a late arrival its like munchkins, if you have the time and nothing better to do, go for it. But you probably wont invite people over for the express purpose of playing it.


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Scott Eastwood shows off his rock hard abs while going shirtless and becoming a merman during a vacation at the beach on Wednesday (July 2) in North Carolina.
The 28-year-old Fury actor was joined by his girlfriend Brittany Brousseau, who took a sexy photo as a mermaid as well!
"Nothing to see here. Just another merman on the beach. @brittbrousseau #littlemermaid #itsforarole #ipromise #characterstudy," Scott captioned his photo.
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The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife is conducting a public opinion survey to help identify key wildlife issues to be addressed in the department's 2015-2021 Game Management Plan.
The information gathered from the survey will help WDFW update its current plan, originally developed in 2003 and updated in 2009. The plan guides the long-term management of game species, and is used to develop three-year hunting packages that set annual regulations for hunting seasons.
The survey is available through Jan. 3 on WDFW's website at http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/game/2015/. Paper copies of the survey also are available by contacting the Wildlife Program at (360) 902-2515.
"The public's involvement is essential in creating a comprehensive and effective game management plan," said Dave Ware, WDFW game division manager. "We look forward to hearing from people as we go about updating this plan that will guide game management priorities."
The opinion survey addresses a number of game management issues, including:
- Hunter recruitment and retention
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Once the survey results are analyzed, WDFW will incorporate them into a draft plan, which will go out for public comment next spring. The plan will be considered for final approval by the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission next summer.


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[caption id="attachment_7503" align="alignright" width="500"] Jack and Pat Solomon, decade-long USO Georgia volunteers, at their home outside of Atlanta, GA. USO photo by Joseph Andrew Lee[/caption]
If you are in the military and have spent any time at the Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, you have probably been hugged at least once by Pat Solomon.
She and her husband Jack–a graduate of West Point–are two of the many friendly, welcoming and warm couples who volunteer at USO Georgia. For the past 10 years, the Solomons have worked at least three days per week at the Atlanta airport USO, but more recently they have embarked on a new mission—fundraising.
Throughout the summer the Solomons will travel over 1,000 miles to visit more than 100 Kangaroo Express stores in Georgia, dropping off USO fundraising materials and engaging with employees to officially launch the Kangaroo Express Salute Our Troops campaign.
Involving more than 1,600 Kangaroo Express stores, the Salute Our Troops campaign is the largest grassroots fundraising initiative the USO has ever participated in, raising $1.3 million for the USO in its first year.
From Memorial Day to Labor Day, custom painted vehicles and decorated veterans of the recent wars will travel throughout the South capturing the attention of Kangaroo Express guests and educating the public on problems facing the military and military families.
According to USO account manager Kirk Parker, the campaign has been such a success because of patriots like the Solomons who literally go the extra mile to develop a personal relationship with Kangaroo Express staff and management of every store in their area.
"We do what we can do here because these men and women are doing what they can over there," said Jack Solomon. "Our small contribution of time and gas pales in comparison to the sacrifices being made by our sons and daughters overseas. It's our way of saying 'Thank You' to them for volunteering to serve. Not everyone can, and not everyone will. We must recognize and honor this."
"She (Pat) is the biggest military cheerleader you've ever seen," he added. "She absolutely lives and breathes the USO and the support for our troops. We believe that energy is contagious—it can be spread to the staff of Kangaroo so that they bring the same energy toward troop support you might find at an actual USO."
"He is the reason I do it," said Pat. "He and every other American who has ever served this country—I love them all." – By Joseph Andrew Lee, USO Staff Writer
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A conversation in mid-June with an Intermountain hay grower and CAFA member pretty well summed up the first half of the year for many alfalfa growers. The first cutting of alfalfa was about two weeks later than normal and hay wasn't quite up to the quality standards usually associated with the initial harvest. "That's what happens when you go from winter to summer," he said.
We haven't talked to too many happy campers this year, except for an Imperial Valley grower who took advantage of a strong export market for sudan. The demand for sudan was reflected in a mid-July report that put Imperial Valley acreage at 61,269, an increase of 15,000 acres for the same period last year.
Meanwhile, the alfalfa export market has been a disappointment. In early July a Sacramento Valley alfalfa grower told us he was frustrated and puzzled by the lack of interest from export buyers.
The hay market through mid-July served as a reminder that the alfalfa market is driven by the health of California's dairy industry. Dairymen, of course, have experienced tough times and that was evidenced by the demand for high-test hay. Traditional supply-demand dynamics didn't come into play. Early season rains took a toll and despite a shortage of high-quality alfalfa, prices stayed at around the same levels as 2002.
Despite a rocky first half of the year, however, there are some reasons for optimism that a change may be in store due to developments in the alfalfa and dairy industries. Trends indicate that both industries are making adjustments that will bring a more normal supply-demand situation.
As pointed out in CAFA newsletters earlier in the year, sources were estimating that alfalfa acreage would decline by 5 percent to 8 percent from last year, a drop of about 55,000 to 90,000 acres. The lower estimate seems to have prevailed and California alfalfa acreage that will be harvested in 2003 is now estimated at about 50,000 acres below 2002. The Imperial Valley has seen the biggest reduction; down more than 28,000 acres. In addition, the Palo Verde and Coachella Water Districts reached an agreement to idle approximately 16,000 acres of farmland in the last half of 2003. An estimated 10,000 of those acres are alfalfa.
The trend of fewer alfalfa acres is also evident in other western states. In the seven western states, including California, alfalfa acreage is down 125,000 compared to last year. Alfalfa shipments into the state dropped by nearly 20 percent in the first quarter of the year. Hay other than alfalfa also tailed off in California with estimates of 470,000 acres vs. 500,000 in 2002.
Despite fewer hay acres and some speculation that more reductions lay ahead, the financial health of the dairy industry is still driving the market. There are signs that the dairy industry is beginning to see a much needed turnaround. The California Department of Agriculture's Dairy Marketing Branch reported a 23 cents per gallon increase in Class 1 fluid milk prices on July 10. It's the second highest month-to-month increase on record, but the $1.24 per gallon farm price is below the five-year average of $1.25 per gallon. Other positive signs include improvements in the cheese and butter markets.
Given the reduction in alfalfa acreage and signs that the dairy industry is beginning to rebound, there's reason for optimism in the months ahead.


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CHICAGO (AP) — A special prosecutor released a report Tuesday that concluded there is no evidence that then-Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley or members of his family sought to influence an investigation into the 2004 death of a man punched by Daley's nephew.
But the 162-page document on the death of David Koschman does suggest authorities badly handled the investigation at key stages, including by continually asserting that Daley's nephew had acted in self-defense when that was contradicted by much of the witness testimony.
However, "there was no evidence that former Mayor Daley, his family, or others at their direction engaged in conduct to influence or attempted to influence" the investigations, according to a statement released with the report by the special prosecutor, former U.S. Attorney Dan Webb.
Daley, the city's longest-serving mayor, left office in 2011.
Koschman, who was 21, died days after being struck on a street by Daley's nephew, Richard J. Vanecko, who had been out drinking at nearby bars. The blow knocked down Koschman and he struck his head.
Fueled by stories in the Chicago Sun-Times, questions were raised about whether clout caused Cook County prosecutors and Chicago police to mishandle the original investigation. Koschman's family claimed there was a cover-up.
The report's release came after Vanecko, now 39 and living in Costa Mesa, Calif., pleaded guilty Friday to involuntary manslaughter in a plea deal. He'll serve 60 days in jail, followed by 60 days of home confinement, and must pay $20,000 in restitution.
His plea agreement short-circuited the need for a trial, which had been scheduled to begin later this month, and it led a judge on Monday to order that Webb's final 2013 report be unsealed.
Webb wrote that when re-examining the case's handling, he primarily looked at whether one of four laws had been broken: official misconduct, obstructing justice, conspiracy, and tampering with public records. Because each has a three-year statute of limitations, none could have been applied to the handling of the original 2004 investigation, he wrote, also citing a lack of potentially vital evidence, including emails and cellphone records.
And while reopened investigations in 2011 and 2012 were not subject to the statute of limitations, the report concluded that charges couldn't be filed against any of the investigators.
"The Special Prosecutor does not believe he could prove beyond a reasonable doubt by legally sufficient evidence at trial that any employee of (the Chicago police) or (prosecutor's office) acted with the requisite criminal intent ... to violate Illinois law," it said.
Vanecko's plea on Friday came as a surprise.
Judge Maureen McIntye accepted the plea and ordered Vanecko to apologize to Koschman's mother, Nanci Koschman.
Vanecko said in court about her, "I cannot imagine the pain and suffering Mrs. Koschman has gone through."
Nanci Koschman told the judge she felt at least some sense of justice, saying, "I have a little peace of mind. I know I got a little justice for David."
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Did you ever spend your time on preparing for Java certification exams? I did. I got 5 different certificates in the beginning of my carreer. I was so proud those days about this achievement, but now I don't even know where are those precious certificates. I just don't see the value in those anymore.
Today, when open source projects are so active there is a way to earn yourself a measurable reputation by doing what you know the best - coding. You can contribute your best code to open source projects and when time comes to change your job instead of sending reference to "cool certificates" you can reference to your contributions.
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Town Crier readers voted Eeli Ram's "Haunted" the first-place winner in the paper's 2013 Spooky Stories Contest.
Ram's creepy story of a butchering Guy Fieri, zombie actors and the ultimate banquet received the most votes, followed by Alex Kemble's "Hunting Ghosts." It was the second consecutive year Tremble placed second in the contest. Ram received a $50 check from the Town Crier for the effort, and Kemble received $25.
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(POLITICO) — The Rush Limbaugh Program is considering ending its affiliation agreement with Cumulus Media at the end of this year, a move that would bring about one of the biggest shakeups in talk radio history, a source close to the show tells POLITICO.
Should the move take place, 40 Cumulus-owned radio stations would lose the rights to the most popular talk radio program in the country. In addition, the show might be picked up by competing regional radio stations in Washington, New York, Chicago, Dallas and other major markets.
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According to the source, Limbaugh is considering the move because Cumulus CEO Lew Dickey has blamed the company's advertising losses on Limbaugh's controversial remarks about Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown law student. In Feb. 2012, Limbaugh referred to Fluke as "a slut" because she had called on congress to mandate insurance coverage of birth control. The subsequent controversy over those remarks resulted in a significant advertising boycott.


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BOSTON — Our nonprofit, Together Yes, launched this year, is dedicated to sustainability and community building in Norwood. Our grassroots efforts are aimed at getting "small and local." We are becoming a presence in Norwood, and wish to see the town viable and sustainable for all residents and businesses.
I see disparity in our incomes that means some of us are able to live comfortably while others struggle. I also see Norwood having difficulty competing with big business nearby (on Route 1, particularly). I wish for Norwood residents to pull together to see that all of our basic needs are met, and to support local and small businesses located in Norwood. I have become convinced, through wide study, that "small and local" is how we can best weather upcoming climate change and economic upheaval. Norwood is a very good-hearted town, and should be able to accomplish this with less difficulty than some communities.
Additionally, I have long been concerned about global warming. Again through much study, I have concluded that issues of sustainability are interconnected, and we must address all if we're to solve even one of them. Economics/finances, social matters, health, environment — they affect one another. So, our organization addresses sustainable practices on all of these.
My notion, when starting Together Yes, was to establish a sense of community, so we could work together on these issues of sustainability. That plays out in small-group and neighborhood initiatives, as well as town-wide activities. Currently underway are projects involving teaching people how to alter, mend and repurpose clothing rather than buying new. Doing this means that those who can't afford to buy new will be able to dress well, and those who can buy new will reconsider before purchasing clothing made at great expense to our fossil fuel reserve and our environment; it will also mean that fewer of our dollars are being outsourced to nearly slave labor in other countries. Together Yes has already found some experts willing to teach workshops, and plans are being made to find sewing machines and notions for those who can't afford them.
The other project involves preserving food, so we can eat inexpensively and in season. Think pumpkin pie in summer and homemade pasta sauce in the dead of winter, with no additives and loads of nutrition. If we work together, helping provide canning expertise and supplies where necessary, more Norwood residents will be able to buy produce in season when it's affordable and "put it up" for the winter. This is especially helpful in New England where our growing season is so short. Here, too, this project bears influence on far more than just getting by for our residents. Our food won't be produced in other countries minus stringent controls about pesticides used, and it won't be traveling internationally to our tables, wasting fossil fuels and contributing to global warming. In tandem with this project, we are planning to start up at least one community organic vegetable garden this spring. Together Yes members will raise the start-up money, locate the land and find experts to give guidance.
You see, we have a lot on our plate, having decided to save the world, beginning with Norwood. Said with a smile, of course. One person, one organization, one town can't pull all that off. But unless we try, we have to answer to ourselves and our descendants, as well as the people in developing nations who suffer greatly at the hands of our gross domestic product mandate.
You can see I am passionate about what we are trying to do here.
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|December 10, 2012, 01:51 AM
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I take it with a grain of salt,Aint never seen anyone do it.Shoot I dont no many that can afford to. Guess it could happen.I know mine will shoot MO,DEER most all day.
|December 10, 2012, 08:07 AM
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I have three rifles that I have just tweaked enough tp get less than 1MOA.
All three have handloads designed for them, a couple have multiple loads that they will shoot under moa easily.
I cant shoot moa, offhand at 100 yds, morelike two moa.
Off a rest my rifles are nice shooters for the money, and all three are merely hunting rifles shooting only hunting bullets.
Id take that bet, if there was one, that my rifles will shoot under moa all day.
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|December 10, 2012, 09:09 AM
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When I hear someone say "all day long", I immediately recognize that that individual may be giving a heartfelt impression of his rifle's performance but he doesn't have any real data on which his statement is based. It could mean his rifle performs with a particular best load, or when the shooter is having a good day, or it could be just an idle boast.
In any case, the statement is next to worthless.
Even the best shooting rifles have some ammos and some hand loads that they don't shoot well. I would bet someone could find a load and a bullet type that even the best rifle wouldn't shoot under 1 MOA on average.
In addition, even the best shooters can have an off day or let a couple of rounds mess up a good group. Those groups count when you speak about 'all day long".
So unless the speaker clearly qualifies the conditions and limits that apply to his statement, "all day long" doesn't work for me.
|December 10, 2012, 09:14 AM
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What does a load that the rifle doesn't shoot as well have to do with anything? That doesn't even make sense. That's WHY we handload, sort brass, neck turn, check runout, buy expensive dies....
OF COURSE, the rifle doesn't shoot any round you put in it to less than MOA.
If that were the qualification for a sub-MOA rifle, there wouldn't be a single one in existence.
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|December 10, 2012, 09:44 AM
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When I hear someone say that I think they are giving their impression of the rifle and that while they may be spending an entire day at the range, but they are most certainly shooting other guns and letting the rifle cool and so forth.
This is not necessarily a lie, but spoken from a practical position and not a literal one.
|December 10, 2012, 09:53 AM
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My point was very much the same as yours but from a different perspective.
I would suspect that most people take the "under 1 MOA all day long" as a boast intended to give the impression that all the groups will always be under 1 MOA.
Based upon your posts over the years, I recognize that you have a very wide range of experience and you naturally include that knowledge in your interpretation of the " all day long" statement. I'm not sure everyone does.
I was trying to say that even a sub-MOA rifle doesn't shoot necessarily sub-MOA all day long and, almost guaranteed, doesn't shoot every load the same.
That is indeed why we hand load and tune loads for performance.
A sub-MOA achieves that 'on average' and even within a particular load there can be anomalies.
|December 10, 2012, 09:58 AM
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I think we are over analizing this statement. We as a group can read between the lines here. Im sure he meant shoot 5 or 6 rounds and cool between groups. This is a very easy statement to believe. I have many rifles that will do that. In fact I don't have one that won't do that. I would think at some point in time the barrel will need to be cleaned to maintain the accuracy level. 100 yards and 1 inch groups is not by any means impressive at all.
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|December 10, 2012, 10:01 AM
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Given how many decades I've been load-testing and doing sight-ins from my benchrest, I take it for granted that I can hold a rifle to its best performance almost all the time. I have bad days, of course, but not very many.
I've had some rifles which were not at all picky about what load would be very much tight-group. Others? There was some frustration in finally finding "the load".
"All day long", most likely, just means "reliably". That is, you go out, shoot a group, and it makes your heart all warm and runny. Good. You go out again and again you get that tight group. Same for a day/week/month later.
Away from competition, I don't really see why somebody would spend all day shooting group after group after group. I figure, go shoot a coyote or something.
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|December 10, 2012, 11:12 AM
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I saw an old man (80+) shoot probably 15 <0.25" groups in a row at 50 yards with a Winchester M52 with a matching vintage Unertl scope. I asked him why he doesn't shoot in benchrest competition and he almost yelled at me... Something like,"I don't have time to be where someone else wants me to be, I do things on my own schedule!" Now that's "ALL DAY LONG" performance! Pretty cool. If only my centerfire rifles could be that good!
When I shoot 3 slow 5-shot groups in a row with a particular rifle at 100 yards and they are all sub-MOA I think I can comfortably say,"This is a sub-MOA rifle". That rarely happens, but it does happen with 2 or 3 of my rifles, on occasion. I have never used the phrase,"All day long" describing the accuracy of my guns. In fact, I always raise an eyebrow when I here that and think of the guy with a Mosin Nagant with a Walmart scope that is supposedly a 1/4"MOA shooter, "All day long".
|December 10, 2012, 07:33 PM
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When the manufacturer says the RIFLE will shoot MOA all day long, they don't mean in any shooters hands. They mean from a lead sled or at least a competent shooter.
They don't mean with WWB, they mean with Hornady match ammunition.
There are a whole lot of rifles designs being produced that will shoot sub MOA 3 shot groups at a very high repeatability from a rest. That is the one measure I give modern production an edge over older production. Good thing shooting subMOA isn;t high on the list for me with most rifles. Rests are too heavy to carry in the woods anyways.
|December 10, 2012, 08:33 PM
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If I build a big game hunting rifle that is 1 moa 5 shots all day long, I built it too heavy.
1 moa average 3 shots is as heavy as I want to build them.
But the varmint rifles I would like at .5 moa 5 shots.
Heavy gun, light bullet.
The trouble is, when and where is the wind low enough to test that?
If I get inland away from the ocean a hundred miles, and then find flat country, and then shoot at sun up.
I do go there and do that, but once or twice a year. Near Seattle with ranges opening at noon, i can count on 6 mph gusty winds.
No one, not even really good rifles cleaned every 15 shots, can do 1 moa all day long in that wind.
I know a number of guys that test rifles at 50 yards, to reduce the effect of the wind.
The word 'forum" does not mean "not criticizing books."
"Ad hominem fallacy" is not the same as point by point criticism of books. If you bought the book, and believe it all, it may FEEL like an ad hominem attack, but you might strive to accept other points of view may exist.
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|December 10, 2012, 08:49 PM
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For clarification: All day long is certainly a misused term. In our case, our .308 will shoot .5 MOA out to 400 yards conditions permitting. The rifle is more than capable, up to the shooter and the wind. If the conditions are good, yes on most occasions we can maintain that. My 14 year old son is a better shot than I am and we both have done around 2" 5 round groups as 400 yards.
We shoot Black Hills 168 or 175g and shoot off a bipod and sand bag. Here is the rifle, range and representative target.
|December 10, 2012, 09:16 PM
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Tempest- What brand rifle is that..One sweet looking unit there.
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|December 10, 2012, 09:46 PM
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Sorry Tempest I love that rifle so I'm steeling your thunder .
It is a Savage Model: 10/110 BA , 24" barrel and 13.4 lbs not including the scope or bi-pod
Tolerate- allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of something that one does not necessarily like or agree with , without interference.
If you have some time IMO this is worth a listen/watch but it takes a few minutes to really get going .
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|December 10, 2012, 10:11 PM
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How many rounds are you talking about?
Are you talking about 3, 5, or 10 shot groups? I know I read a lot about everyone shooting 1" moa but frankly seldom see anyone shooting that well at the range. I know I read an article where a military sniper using a lead sled shooting a bunch of different new hunting rifles using premium ammo did not consistently shoot 1" moa with them. He did about half of them to MOA and the others were only a little more than that but he was a mil sniper. It showed me that an inch and a half at 100yds is pretty good shooting. If you are talking about only 3 shots I think that is more doable but when you go to 5 and then 10 shot groups 1" MOA is much more difficult.
|December 10, 2012, 11:00 PM
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All day long huh? I have heard that before but what they actually meant was a five round group. Very short day if you ask me. If a person can load/select their ammo to ensure that the velocity is less than a 25 fps std dev, guess the wind and hold consistently all the time with few or zero flyers then they can claim all day long.
I have witnessed good shooting in the past; such as a 1.9 inch group at 550 yards with moderate wind. That shooter never claimed to be able to shoot 1 moa all the time. When I see someone put thirty rounds into a 1 moa group, then I will not roll my eyes at the phrase, "all day long".
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|December 11, 2012, 06:20 AM
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ive had a few sporter weight rifles that were true moa guns but there rare. Most guys who claim to have them fired one or two 1/2 inch 3 shots groups with the majority being alot bigger and just claim to have a tack driver. A moa gun to me anyway is one that will shoot moa in any weather and do it shooting a 5 shot group into an inch and a half EVERY time i have it at the range and there rare. I kind of relate it to this. We were at camp last week and talking trucks and gas milage. I told my dad my silverado will get 17mpg average. He said his dakota got 27 and he could prove it because driving on a flat at 55 mph his gas mileage guage said so. One 1/2 inch group proves nothing but that the stars were aligned that day.
|December 11, 2012, 09:29 AM
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I've owned 4 bolt action centerfire rifles, each would consistently do MOA or better. That's using either a bipod or front bag, no rear bag and me behind the trigger. What those guns would be capable if they were locked up tighter and/or had a better shooter would probably amaze me let alone the OP. Personally I feel that a bolt action rifle that won't do MOA with tested loads to be on the verge of being broken.
|December 11, 2012, 09:54 AM
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All the MOA shooters here should fire a 10 shot group. Shoot it in a minute or two. The faster you can get back on target and squeeze off an accurate shot the better. Shoot ten, ten shots groups like that over a day, or a few days. Now average them. If the don't average one MOA or less, you don't have a MOA rifle.
Shooting one three, or five shot group that measures a MOA or less, proves very little. Other than the rifle is acceptable for hunting.
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|December 11, 2012, 09:59 AM
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First time I've heard a time limit on groups.
|December 11, 2012, 10:17 AM
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How long do you take to shoot a ten shot group?
Anyway, take 30 min or an hour Brian, if thats what you need. The most important part is that you shoot ten shot groups and average them.
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If you have some time IMO this is worth a listen/watch but it takes a few minutes to really get going .
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|December 11, 2012, 11:17 AM
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I must be a loser. I've always had to work my ass off to get a rifle to hold three shots inside an inch at 100 yards. I've got two now that with the right ammunition, a still day, a good bench, sandbags and me not having had too much coffee will usually do that for me. They're both hunting rifles, one is an M77RL in .270, the other is a 77/22 in .22 WMR. They're both very picky about the right ammunition.
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|December 11, 2012, 11:36 AM
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This is good stuff. You're messing with us, right? 3-shot groups can mean just as much as 10 shot groups if you shoot enough of them. If you shoot 20 3-shot groups and the bullets all land in the same place relative to POA, then it's the same as shooting 6 10-shot groups with all the bullets landing in the same place relative to POA. Now, what rifle, heavy barrel or not can shoot 10-consecutive shots in a minute without the barrel heating to branding iron levels?
If you shoot 3 Sub-MOA 5-shot groups in a row, that's the same as shooting a 15-shot Sub-MOA group. Happens more often than some people in this thread think even with sporter rifles. I see guys at the range shooting heavy bolt-action rifles into 3/4"-1" 5-shot groups at 200 yards with regularity. I have a .243 that I can easily count on 1.5" groups at 200 yards. That's slow-fired 5-shot groups. Nothing special other than some painstaking work at the reloading bench.
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In addition to increasing erosion, many of the world's low-lying coastal
regions will be exposed to potential inundation. Deltas that are deteriorating
as a result of sediment starvation, subsidence, and other stresses are particularly
susceptible to accelerated inundation, shoreline recession, wetland deterioration,
and interior land loss (Biljsma et al., 1996; Day et al., 1997).
River deltas are among the most valuable, heavily populated, and vulnerable
coastal systems in the world. Deltas develop where rivers deposit more sediment
at the shore than can be carried away by waves. Deltas are particularly at risk
from climate changepartly because of natural processes and partly because
of human-induced stresses. Deltaic deposits naturally dewater and compact as
a result of sedimentary loading. When compaction is combined with isostatic
loading or other tectonic effects, rates of subsidence can reach 20 mm yr-1
(Alam, 1996). Human activities such as draining for agricultural development;
levee building to prevent flooding; and channelization, damming, and diking
of rivers to impede sediment transfers have made deltas more vulnerable to sea-level
rise. Examples of sediment starvation include the Rhone and Ebro deltas (Jimenez
and Sanchez-Arcilla, 1997) and polder projects in the Ganges-Brahmaputra (Jelgersma,
1996). Sediment transport by the Nile, Indus, and Ebro Rivers has been reduced
by 95% and in the Mississippi by half in the past 200 years, mostly since 1950
(Day et al., 1997). Further stress has been caused by subsurface fluid withdrawals
and draining of wetland soils. In the Bangkok area of the Chao Phraya delta,
groundwater extraction during 1960-1994 increased average relative sea-level
rise by 17 mm yr-1 (Sabhasri and Suwarnarat, 1996). Similar severe land subsidence
has been experienced in the Old Huange and Changjiang deltas of China (Chen,
1998; Chen and Stanley, 1998). In the latter case, groundwater removal was curtailed,
leading to a reduction in subsidence rates.
Where local rates of subsidence and relative sea-level rise are not balanced
by sediment accumulation, flooding and marine processes will dominate. Indeed,
Sanchez-Arcilla and Jimenez (1997) suggest that in the case of largely regulated
deltas, the main impacts of climate change will be marine-related because impacts
related to catchment areas will be severely damped by river regulation and management
policies. In such cases, significant land loss on the outer delta can result
from wave erosion; prominent examples include the Nile (Stanley and Warne, 1998),
Mackenzie (Shaw et al., 1998b), and Ganges (Umitsu, 1997). In South America,
large portions of the Amazon, Orinoco, and Paraná/Plata deltas will be
affected if sea-level rise accelerates as projected (Canziani et al., 1998).
If vertical accretion rates resulting from sediment delivery and in situ organic
matter production do not keep pace with sea-level rise, waterlogging of wetland
soils will lead to death of emergent vegetation, a rapid loss of elevation because
of decomposition of the belowground root mass, and, ultimately, submergence
and erosion of the substrate (Cahoon and Lynch, 1997).
In some situations, saltwater intrusion into freshwater aquifers also is a
potentially major problem, as demonstrated by a three-scenario climate change
and sea-level rise model study of the Nile delta (Sherif and Singh, 1999). In
other places, saltwater intrusion is already taking place (Mulrenna and Woodroffe,
1998). In the Yangtze delta, one consequence of saltwater incursion will be
that during dry seasons shortages of freshwater for agriculture are likely to
be more pronounced and agricultural yields seriously reduced particularly around
Shanghai (Chen and Zong, 1999).
An estimate by Nicholls et al. (1999) suggests that by the 2080s, sea-level
rise could cause the loss of as much as 22% of the world's coastal wetlands.
Although there would be significant regional variations (Michener et al., 1997),
such losses would reinforce other adverse trends of wetland loss resulting primarily
from direct human actionestimated by DETR (1999) to be about 40% of 1990
values by the 2080s. Stabilization scenarios developed by DETR (1999) show a
large reduction in wetland lossesto 6-7%, compared with unmitigated
emissions (13%). Two main types of tidal wetlandmangrove forest and salt
marshare considered here, although serious impacts on other coastal vegetation
types, including subtidal seagrasses, can be expected (Short and Neckles, 1999).
Mangrove forests often are associated with tropical and subtropical deltas,
but they also occur in low- to mid-latitude lagoon and estuary margins, fringing
shorelines from Bermuda in the north to northern New Zealand in the south. Mangroves
have important ecological and socioeconomic functions, particularly in relation
to seafood production, as a source of wood products, as nutrient sinks, and
for shoreline protection (Rönnbäck, 1999). Moreover, different kinds
of mangrove provide different goods and services (Ewel et al., 1998). The function
and conservation status of mangroves has been considered in special issues of
two journals, introduced by Field et al. (1998) and Saenger (1998).
Many mangrove forests are being exploited and some are being destroyed, reducing
resilience to accommodate future sea-level rise. In Thailand, 50% of mangrove
has been lost in the past 35 years (Aksornkoae, 1993); yet with greatly increased
sediment supply to the coastal zone in some places, mangrove colonization has
expanded seaward in suitable habitats (Panapitukkul et al., 1998). As for other
shore types, this example emphasizes the importance of sediment flux in determining
mangrove response to sea-level rise. Ellison and Stoddart (1991), Ellison (1993),
and Parkinson et al. (1994) suggest that mangrove accretion in low- and high-island
settings with low sediment supply may not be able to keep up with future sea-level
rise, whereas Snedaker et al. (1994) suggest that low-island mangroves may be
able to accommodate much higher rates of sea-level rise. This ability may depend
on stand composition and status (e.g., Ewel et al., 1998; Farnsworth, 1998)
and other factors, such as tidal range and sediment supply (Woodroffe, 1995,
1999; Miyagi et al., 1999). In some protected coastal settings, inundation of
low-lying coastal land may promote progressive expansion of mangroves with sea-level
rise (Richmond et al., 1997). In contrast, Alleng (1998) predicts the complete
collapse of a mangrove wetland in Jamaica under rapid sea-level rise.
The response of tidal marshes to sea-level rise is similarly affected by organic
and inorganic sediment supply and the nature of the backshore environment (Brinson
et al., 1995; Nuttle et al., 1997). In general, tidal marsh accretion
tracks sea-level rise and fluctuations in the rate of sea-level rise (e.g.,
van de Plassche et al., 1998, 1999; Varekamp and Thomas, 1998). Marsh
accretion also reflects marsh growth effects (Varekamp et al., 1999).
Bricker-Urso et al. (1989) estimate a maximum sustainable accretion rate
of 16 mm yr-1 in salt marshes of Rhode Island (assuming that vertical
accretion rates are controlled mainly by in situ production of organic matter);
this rate is an order of magnitude higher than rates reported by others. Orson
et al. (1998) also emphasizes the effects of variability between marsh
species types.
Temporal and spatial variability in rates of relative sea-level rise also is
important. Stumpf and Haines (1998) report rates of >10 mm yr-1
in the Gulf of Mexico over several years, where the long-term mean rate of relative
sea-level rise is 2 mm yr-1 or less. Forbes et al. (1997b)
report multi-year fluctuations in sea-level rise at Halifax, Nova Scotia, of
as much as 10 mm yr-1 and occasionally higher, superimposed on a
long-term mean of 3.6 mm yr-1. Thus, short-term fluctuations in sea-level
rise may approach the maximum limit of accretion, although the drowning of marsh
surfaces is unlikely to be a major concern. Higher local rates of sea-level
change have been recorded over the past 100 years or so in a few places, one
of which is the Caspian Sea. Here, the response of riparian vegetation to the
sea-level fall in the early part of the 20th century was a rapid seaward progression
of vegetation. This progression ceased with the rise in Caspian sea level averaging
120 mm yr-1 from 1978 to 1996, but it did not result in a similar
rapid regression of vegetation. Instead, the vegetation consolidated its position,
which has been partly explained by the wide flooding tolerance of the major
emergent plant species, with floating vegetation increasing in extent with more
favorable (higher water level) conditions (Baldina et al., 1999).
In some areas, the current rate of marsh elevation gain is insufficient to
offset relative sea-level rise. For instance, model results from a wetland elevation
model designed to predict the effect of an increasing rate of sea-level rise
on wetland sustainability in Venice Lagoon revealed that for a 0.48-m rise in
the next 100 years, only one site could maintain its elevation relative to sea
level; for a 0.15-m rise, seven sites remained stable (Day et al., 1999).
Maintenance of productive marsh area also depends on horizontal controls discussed
by Nuttle et al. (1997) and Cahoon et al. (1998). For example, in settings with
sufficient sediment influx, the wetland may expand toward the estuary, while
also expanding landward if the backshore slope is sufficiently low and not backed
by fixed infrastructure (Brinson et al., 1995). If sediment supply is low, however,
marsh front erosion may occur (Dionne, 1986).
Although determining the threshold for such erosion is difficult, this erosion
is regarded as a negative impact on many wetlands, particularly those constrained
by artificial structures on the landward side. Nicholls and Branson (1998) use
the term "coastal squeeze" to describe the progressive loss and inundation
of coastal habitats and natural features located between coastal defenses and
rising sea levels. They believe that intertidal habitats will continue to disappear
progressively, with adverse consequences for coastal biological productivity,
biodiversity, and amenity value. Where sediment influx is insufficient to sustain
progradation, there is potential for significant loss of coastal wetlands. After
considering two "what if" climate change scenarios, Mortsch (1998)
found that key wetlands around the Great Lakes of Canada-USA are at riskparticularly
those that are impeded from adapting to the new water-level conditions by artificial
structures or geomorphic conditions.
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1) Remove bettman and fehr asap
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