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The Western notion of justice is a concept of moral rightness based on ethics, rationality, law, natural law, religion, equity or fairness.
There is no way to equally judge another human being or bring back what the violation has caused equally. The attempt will lead to mistakes and cruelty. More insidious is the notion someone can bring justice. I bring this up because the smart men and women I know (asked 40) all agreed this is why they still believe in the religion they believe in. Some cited fear of death as number 2 but all said they believe there has to be justice from higher power ultimatey. And that this is the only solace they have in this world. They believe someone who took so much life, like a Dahmer, would have to be judged by something eternal. I said someone in war may take 100's of lives but this is judged justice because they did it under orders or for a "just" cause.
Justice does seem to be hard wired instinctual.Most social mammals show different degrees of abhorrents to inequality.Especially primates.
But essentially isn't the pursuit of real justice not possible? Calling it necessary means this will make those who deem the power to wield it, to better humanity, unjust from the beginning? Isn't justice another way of claiming superiority? Doesn't a despot in the world use it to claim there power? If we agree justice is not a noble pursuit and clearly impossible (like following the word of god), what laws or punishments should be changed or updated? How would you feel if a mass murder or child molester was treated with a kind hand, rather than the visceral feeling of gutting them like a pig and dancing in the entrails as they slowing die. I am the first to admit this sounds more like justice at a primal level. But should we be smarter than that?
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Than they are determined at one time to have only one recourse or action? You are actually assuming, more than I am, that they can't either be made aware or identify it s bad behavior. Putting them in a better environment so the rate at which crime from repeat offenders down. If the person is born that way then you would need to act like all the sci fi pictures show to prevent those people from every getting the power enough to follow through.
My experience is more that we all have impulses that run through our minds that we know not to act on, no matter how hard the impulse is and those who know their trigger points are better equipt to deal with them.
Mat do you think they can act differently? Is it possible to act contra your nature?
I am not saying a person is born a murderer or rapist, but that the environment, the experiences a person has can be such that a person may turn out a rapist.
Nature of who we are individually only exists statically as we leave the womb. Whatever we learned in the womb and the proclvities (not complete absolutes) in our genes are at ground zero for the new enviroment. We have our physical but mental traits as potentials at this point. Enviroment comes in to shape those proclivities and potentials, trying to exploit the genes as they are for survival at first then more as we mature. Adding new data into any enviroment changes the experiment.
think of it this way. Are you the same person you were as a baby, or a child? if you think essentially you are, you actually are a complete stranger. Every cell is different from year to year. why do you think we will only learn and react one way our entire lives?
If you were given tools to understand how the world is and how it reacts to your decisions and why you made the decisions you made in the first place, would you continue to not use information, especially when the survival reward becomes so great? And if you can't exploit them would that lend itself to a lethal illness?
The fact remains that at the moment you make a choice, be it good or bad, it is the choice you were going to make given who you are + the the situation you find yourself in. The ONLY other alternative is that your choice is somehow random, which doesn't seem to be much better than determinism.
This is just as true of those wanting revenge for a crime as it is for the perpetrator.
Ok lets use that then determinism unlike fatalism has to take into account all those who effect you enviroment so if some was determined to kill and be sent for treatment they would have a mathmatical outcome that could be predetermined, possibly, but at the very least agreed upon that is determined. In some respect the past that determines the outcome also involves the causual treatment. At this point I can see where the natural next step in trying to help humanity involves how we treat all victims in these crimes. That is it had to be done the way it was done to come to the the determination there is a better path. it isn't like we are changing nature of anyone, I am just discussing a way to progress the nature of humanity. Seems like there is a lot of examples of doing it wrong for a lot issues before determining a more natural path. And without the wrong determination. How could we determine the right process.
I agree we aren't changing humanity or changing the predetermined path we changing the process which only looks like its changing the determined path while its actually apart the determined way in balance of nature. But you could also argue that we cannot do anything unnatural so than the change will be never ending. Since somethings cannot be determined without knowing something unknown to begin with. Like the earth being flat or round?
@Mat Waldie In some respect the past that determines the outcome also involves the causual treatment. At this point I can see where the natural next step in trying to help humanity involves how we treat all victims in these crimes.
Whether we do or not we have no real control over. We will do what we will do, even if we feel like we have made a choice, there really was no conscious choice. Science is showing us that choices are made pre-consciously, not consciously. The conscious choice is simply when the pre-conscious mind reveals the choice to us. What goes on pre-consciously is either deterministic or some determinism + randomness. Neither one seems terribly compatible with true free will. The fact that people so regularly make choices we can predict better the better we know them seems to indicate that we do what it is in our nature to do, That goes for everyone involved, not just the perpetrator.
@Unseen, Well I actually still on the fence on whether we are completely without freewill or not so I understand your point. And although I concur only to the point that precognition always has a cross reference it isn't ever completely without a personal past reference. We materialize our patterns from suggestion that start at first in the womb and then more maturely after birth. They do shape how we reveal the path and does feel like things were determined for us almost but it does not happen without a thread to go on. This isn't about choice you have this is about presenting the environment the path of least resistance. it is the Occam razor in some respects. It isn't about letting someone choose the right path which i agree is complete bullshit and going to fail miserably. this about finding the path that you cannot live without or more to the point cannot live with less.
The reason it hasn't been tried is because people think it wasted resource allocation, even though the more people to rehab the less spread out the resources become. And second which is far more of an issue, no public will. They see it as not defending the victim, by letting down there principles in god. By not following what they think is a noble pursuit of Justice. And that the money is just too huge in keeping folks down and out and in jail.
It's in their nature to act in their own self-interest, which is exactly why there need to be punishments and effective enforcement. Focusing on moral culpability is a mistake. It's a fact that the threat of effective punishment will cause a very significant percentage of wrongdoers to alter their behavior.
This free will versus determinism debate is just a waste of time. Worse, arguments such as those made by Mat simply fuel religious bigotry against non-believers. See, this essay below:
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"The evidence that various punishments and incentives will alter the behavior of
the vast majority of people is overwhelming. In fact, the evidence that the
right punishments and incentives will alter the behavior of everyone who can be
described as a conscious and aware is overwhelming. If you doubt this, ask
yourself how many people will touch a red hot stove eye. The answer is
none--absent some huge, hypothetical incentive needed to counterbalance the
obvious, huge negative reinforcement awaiting those who do."
So the percentage is enough now, or are you saying we aren't strict enough? I don't understand how anything I am proposing differ from this. I want to know? I do not believe punishment should be taken away I believe the punishment right now isn't helping the situation and more incentivised solution should be explored because justice cannot exist, so the idea that not treating a criminal better does not remove the crime. We have tried hard consequences now we should use what we know is more of an incentive then punishment alone. Treatment of a health issue is a basic human right. Your moral dillema is no different then those of religious back grounds. One point i have been trying to make over and over again is housing the sick only means they get to infect more people. We need a carrot to go with the stick if you can't see that than don't worry your not alone.
The rest of the blog you posted is filled with odd logic and is missing a lot of depth and understanding of the topic they posting about. How you can translate determinism into some religious idealogy is not understanding all the side to the way fo thinking. i agree that we should not dwell on how we talk that it is all implied as such but a waste ot time of incredibly closed off and deliberatly shuts down communication. if you don't understand something don't shit all over everyone else who does. Excuse me if this is harsh but really there is never a reason to not communicate idea's no matter how they are discussed.
Thanks Mo, I like that blogpost.
One point i have been trying to make over and over again is housing the sick only means they get to infect more people.
Mat, how about something like more halfway houses? Where there's a mix of dysfunction with mature oversight. It'd be a whole lot more expensive in the short run, but less costly (in many cases) in the long run.
@Pope Definitely a good idea. Also being in a hospital or care taking situation will make a difference in how the path can be incentivised. but to Mo's point that may seem more of a moralistic approach. i do think that protections for the public need to be made just like the zoo doesn't allow the tigers to get out. but still treat the tigers with as much respect as possible. I think a secure halfway house setting is a very good way of getting those who are on the mend a foot in the water. Another point is usually the best counselors are the ex addicts themselves. that is another solution to totally throwing someone away but still keeping them from harming the public if we can never be sure if they will re-offend.


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Photos: 2014 VIBE Impact Awards Red Carpet
Nas was honored at VIBE's 2nd annual Impact Awards, held Friday night (Jan. 24) at the Carondelet House in Los Angeles. During the ceremony, Nasir Jones was roasted by pals like No ID, Swizz Beatz, J. Cole and more as several people from the hip-hop and R&B worlds listened.
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Bamboo buyer beware, says Kelly LaPlante.
"This is one of the biggest areas for greenwashing," she told me during a tour of a suite she redesigned on behalf of Lexus at San Francisco's Fairmont Hotel. (As part of a marketing campaign, Lexus is sprucing up hotel suites in San Francisco and Washington, D.C, The Fairmont one costs $869 a night, but you get to use a Lexus hybrid V8 while you're there.)
A lot of companies offer bamboo flooring and panel so they can sell a green product, but many of them also use toxic adhesives and other chemicals that take away the advantages of using bamboo. Bamboo grows fast and needs little fertilizer, making it a relatively green building product.
Some also grow it in distant places and truck it in, eliminating further environmental advantages. You've got to dig into the suppliers to figure out if you're buying green. Later this year, she will set up a site that rates various building suppliers on how green they really are. It should be good reading.
Other remodeling tips from LaPlante:
Recycle as much as possible. She recently remodeled three cottages in Venice, Calif. They reused drywall and so much material that they didn't even need a dumpster out front. The less stuff that ends up in the land fill, the better.
"When you demolish something, are you demolishing or carefully removing," she said.
That footstool/table you see in the picture is an example of recycling. It's made out of leather found in old Lexuses.
Green is not necessarily a statement. You can consciously pick green materials, but it doesn't have to be a theme. In fact, self-conscious green will likely look dated in the future.
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@kin hellIt sounds "raw." Its good but I feel like it needs some ambiance or harmony that ties the vocals and the instruments together. Maybe, a complimentary melody from a bass giutar?Then again, some people do prefer the "raw" sound.
^^^DMB good choice. Not for religious reasons obviously, but many religious songs are very good. That's what I think you guys have been debating for a few posts.
bosey I meant to say great cover of shout tears for fears weren't my cup'o'tea at all but typically the "disturbed" version seems to suit me better.


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Kyler Reed: Its Time Big Ten Title or Bust
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One of Nebraska's most seasoned players was one of three seniors selected to represent the Huskers at Big Ten Media Days last Thursday and Friday in Chicago. Kyler Reed, a graduate of St. Thomas Aquinas High School in Overland Park, Kan., was a solid interview for everyone who took the time to hear his take on the 2012 Huskers, and we found the fifth-year tight end particularly enlightening about why he sees Nebraska as a legitimate Big Ten Conference championship contender.
A quiet lead-by-example type similar to Rex Burkhead, Reed told the N-Sider he's in a rather large and tight camp of Bo-lievers who have bonded together with a singular mindset - Big Ten Championship or Bust. That's his term, not ours, and he lays the foundation brick-by-brick with descriptive insight, definitive actions and creative team-building from last winter, last spring and this summer, preparing his case for what he expects to happen this fall. "At Nebraska, it's always going to be a goal to win conference championships," Reed said. "We all know it's time ... it's time that we finally do something big here at Nebraska. It's been too long."
Please join an N-Sider conversation with Reed to get the essence of his public acknowledgment of a certain goal that has been set in stone.
Q: It's been a productive and fast-moving summer for the program. What do you see as the highlights of June and July?
A: The highlight would definitely be the team cookout. We had a huge part of the guys who went out to Branched Oak Lake, and it was a lot of fun. There was a lot of food, and there were a lot of freshmen involved. It was a really good chemistry-building kind of thing for everyone there. It wasn't football-related but it was team-related, so it was still very important. We've trained really hard, and Coach (James) Dobson has a good plan. We've been doing things a little different this year. Coach Dobson is always looking for new ways to train, and he's always researching for ways to help us get bigger and stronger and faster. I think this entire team has really done a great job of coming together and focusing on what we need to do. It doesn't matter if it is110 degrees outside and 120 on the turf, our goal every day was to be perfect. We're not perfect every day, but that's still our goal. I like what we got done. We're doing a lot of things different. We're lifting less, and we're running more. When I say we're lifting less, I mean we're lifting less days, not in the amount of lifting itself. We're still getting in a good amount of lifting. It's just one of our lift days is longer. We've also run more, especially earlier in the summer. Coach Dobson believes you can't over-train, and I agree. When you lift more, you get to pull back your running. We've changed our running in a couple of different ways. We took out some of the stuff we did last year and replaced it with what we call drive training, which simulates an actual drive in a game. It's completely new and helps you build different types of sprints and pushing sleds, trying to emulate an actual drive you would have during the course of a game. So the intervals are different than what we've had. It's a 40-second clock, so the plays - and the drive training - start between 15 and 35 seconds. Just like in a game, we don't know what our rest intervals are going to be, but the coaches know them, and it can change depending on the situation. Training like that can help us play a fast-paced offense or we can go up to the line and slow it down. It might be longer between each rep or we might go back to something quick and get that done and get ready for the next one right away. You don't know how quick it's going to be, but Coach (Tim) Beck knows how fast it's going to go, so we're adjusting to what he wants, even though we're practicing with the strength and conditioning staff. Our attitude is unbelievable and I think the Navy Seals meeting in the off-season has made a big difference in the way we look at everything. It's really about being a good teammate. That's what they stressed during the time we spent with them. Good teammates hold each other accountable and hold each other to high standards. That's really what we've been doing all summer. We don't accept missed times or less than great conditioning - from anyone.
Q: How can you meet that standard for an entire football team?
A: Obviously, when we have 150 dudes, some are probably going to miss a time or two throughout the course of the summer and when that happens, the team suffers from it. In the past, the individual was the one who suffered and he had to do a little extra because of it. Now, the leaders of the team actually have to do more because of each individual's mistake. That's how we define accountability now. We are also accountable as leaders as well as individuals actually. That's what the military guys really stressed - be a good teammate and be accountable. It sounds so simple, but it is so hard to learn because you don't necessarily want to be accountable for other people. You just want to worry about yourself. When you think about, it's not only hard to learn in football; it's hard to learn in life in general.
Q: With multiple levels of accountability, are you in the best physical shape of your life?
A: I would say yes, but it's really hard to tell. I'm definitely stronger than I've ever been. That's one thing we can measure. It's one thing to be in great shape, but you can't really get in the shape you need to be in until you start practicing. You can run as hard as you can and practice the tempo you think you need, but it's different in conditioning than it is in practice. Until you have a guy who's pulling on you and pushing on you every time every play in practice, you don't know what kind of shape you're in. You hear about being in football shape and basketball shape. Well, it's true. They're different, and it takes me a week just to get used to practice and only after that week can I tell myself or anyone else that I'm in great football shape.
Q: What are you expecting this year, individually, team-wise and otherwise?
A: No. 1, I expect to be a leader because I've been called to be a leader by the team. I'm a fifth-year senior with a great amount of starting experience. I had a very good sophomore year when I was healthy. I produced good numbers, and I was a good leader. Our team goal is to win a Big Ten championship. Right after the bowl game we had a meeting, and it wasn't we want to win it, it was we're going to win the Big Ten championship, and if you want to be a part of it, you can be a part of it. If not, you know, the door's right there. So, we've set a high standard. Coach Bo (Pelini) has set a high standard, and I think our players have really been striving hard to live up to that high standard throughout this whole summer. I know you can ask any senior, and he'll tell you that our mindset is Big Ten Championship or Bust. I'm never going to say our season is a waste if that doesn't happen, but that is definitely the goal ... for everyone.
Q: Exactly when did you set that high standard in stone?
A: It was obviously a while after the (Capital One) bowl game. We all got home and got to finish out the holiday break with our families. School didn't even start until a week or so after that. Bo did not try to rush us back into the meeting room. He wanted us to take a few weeks off and let our bodies heal. Then we got into winter training. Then we started having more meetings. The high standard had its own time frame. Guys were so sore and kind of lost for awhile. The goal probably wasn't finalized until late January or early February. It was a small meeting and not very long. That's how we wanted to put it out there - plain and simple. We had a goal to go out a winner ... just win the Big Ten! Whatever happens BCS-wise, that's out of our control. Just win the Big Ten!! We were so close (to winning a conference title) our last two years in the Big 12. We all knew we have to find the little things and correct them, and we all understood it would make a big difference.
Q: What do you think Nebraska learned the most in its first year in the Big Ten?
A: Well, I won't say it was a shock physically, but it is very different from the Big 12. I'm not saying the Big 12 is not physical. But it's a different type of play - more run-oriented. I will also say the Big Ten has bigger guys generally. The Big 12 has a lot of speed. There's a difference, so we've had to adjust. I think the Big Ten is a little more physical through the whole schedule. It's more of a grind (top to bottom). So I think what we actually learned didn't really have a lot to do with the Big Ten. I think our mistakes came from us, and they were the same mistakes that we made in the Big 12, so it's always been on us in terms of turnovers and penalties, even though the Big Ten caused more turnovers, and the difference in the style of play was probably a factor.
Q: How does Nebraska's offense fit in with a Big Ten type of offense?
A: I think our quicker offense will give Big Ten teams something they'll have to work on. They'll know how to adjust but it's going to depend on how quickly we move. I don't know if they're ready for that up-tempo offense. You don't know how much you can shock people. Football is just football. We have big guys; they have big guys. We have the spread; they have the spread. It's going to be a high level of football in the Big Ten just like it would be in any other conference.
Q: You joined Rex Burkhead and Will Compton as the three Husker player representatives for the Big Ten Media Days in Chicago. What kind of leaders are they and are they in your Big Ten Championship or Bust crowd?
A: They're different kinds of leaders. Will is a very vocal guy - always has been since he got here on campus. Rex is more along my lines. We're not as vocal as a Will Compton-type of guy or a Ben Cotton-type guy. We're more lead-by-example-type players, but we understand that the team is calling us to be leaders. Rex is the kind of dude you can watch and see how he does things, and he can lead you without even saying a word just because of how he plays and how he practices and what he does off the field. Will and Rex are both great leaders in my mind, but in very different ways. Rex is becoming a more vocal leader as he's been taught to be. Before Chicago, I hadn't even talked to either one about the Big Ten Championship or Bust but we're all in with Coach Bo about what the goal is and how we're going to go about achieving it. Bo has set that goal and you're either with it or not and obviously as seniors we are definitely with that goal. Will Compton will do anything for this team. Same with Rex. It's so easy for them to buy into what Coach Bo is saying. I guarantee that's their mindset and mine as well. We haven't said: "Hey guys, we're going to win the Big Ten or our season is going to be worthless." We have not said that. But I think it is more of a goal this year than it has ever been. At Nebraska, it's always going to be a goal to win conference championships. We haven't focused on it as much as we need to win this. But we all know it's time ... it's time that we finally do something big here at Nebraska. It's been too long."
Q: Do you know how long it's been since Nebraska won a conference football championship?
A: Was it 2001?
Q: Would you believe 1999?
A: That was my first guess that came to mind, and I really should have stayed with it. I almost said: "It was before 2001, wasn't it?"
Q: What's the biggest thing this team has going that can put Nebraska back on a championship track?
A: I'm not into making predictions. The way it stands, everyone is on board, and everyone is willing to do the little things it takes to win. We haven't even practiced yet, but I just have a feeling about this team. This is our second year in Coach Beck's offense, and this is our second year running it after only a few seniors are leaving from last year's team. Hopefully, with an intact offense, I don't know what the predictions of our offense will be, but I personally think we're going to be great on offense this year. I think we're going to learn from our mistakes, and we're going to see how badly our turnovers cost us last year. When we cut those down, I think we're going to vastly improve our passing game. We put a big focus on it in spring ball, and I think we made a big step forward there. I think Taylor (Martinez) has made great improvements in reading the defense and in distributing the ball. I think our passing game will be very improved, and I think that might surprise some people doubting what we can do through the air. That's also what we need honestly. We can't win the Big Ten with just our running game. We can't rely just on Rex to get us through all our games. I mean, Rex is a great player, but it's hard to run the ball through a nine-man box the whole game. Coach Beck told us last spring that we have to throw the ball this fall, and I think we'll be able to do that. I think we really will throw the ball!
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Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (UK - BD)
Chris takes a walk on the Dark Side in his review of the best Star Wars movie
It has been three years since the destruction of the Death Star and the Rebel Alliance is in hiding on the ice planet of Hoth. Luke Skywalker continues to develop his burgeoning talent with the Force, while cocky smuggler Han Solo and the beautiful Princess Leia continue to deny their true feelings for one another. When the Empire discovers and decimates the Rebel base, Han and Leia make a desperate break for freedom aboard the Millennium Falcon, along with Han's loyal co-pilot Chewbacca and the fussy protocol droid C-3PO. Meanwhile, Luke and R2 journey to the mysterious swamp world of Dagobah at the behest of a vision of Obi-Wan Kenobi. There they encounter Yoda, an ancient Jedi Master who reluctantly agrees to instruct Luke in the ways of the Force. As Darth Vader's search for Skywalker intensifies his plans to turn the young Jedi to the dark side threaten those Luke cares for most, and it is not long before the two meet in a titanic struggle at Bespin's Cloud City…
I'm not quite sure when my love of The Empire Strikes Back began. As a child I remember preferring the wide-eyed innocence of the original Star Wars and the light-hearted fluff of the sequel, Return of the Jedi (furry little Ewoks and all). I guess those films held greater appeal for me at that time in my life because I wasn't the cynical old sod I am today. Now that I'm firmly in the Dante Hicks camp of 'life is a series of downers', I look at Empire in a different light. I love the way it takes everything you think you know about the characters and turns it on its head, forcing the viewer to re-evaluate their perceptions of good and evil. I also love the way that you're just not quite sure if the good guys are going to win in the end (at least not on your first viewing), as the situation looks pretty bleak as the credits roll. That sort of uncertainty is a rarity in science fiction and fantasy films, especially those aimed at such a broad audience.
Part of the reason why it became my favourite and has remained so to this day is down to the relative lack of tampering for the 1997 and 2004 Special Edition releases. Whereas Star Wars and Return of the Jedi had lengthy CGI sequences inserted at various points, the alterations to Empire are more subtle. In 1997 the biggest changes were to the sequences on Bespin's Cloud City, but even these were relatively incidental. A lot of people hate the additional footage of Darth Vader returning to his Star Destroyer, and although I'm not the greatest fan it doesn't distract me in the same way as a bunch of comedy Jawas and a Sarlacc with a beak. Even the heavily revised footage of the Emperor included for the 2004 edition doesn't bother me as much as it probably should, partially because it lends a little bit of continuity to the saga without radically altering the information presented in the scene, and partially because actor Ian McDiarmid is a bit of a legend.
Whatever my reasons for loving the film, it is a love shared by many others. Our own Tom Woodward often jokes that I can work Star Wars into just about any conversation, which isn't too far from the truth, and I've had many discussions with people from all walks of life in which The Empire Strikes Back is frequently cited as the most memorable film in the trilogy. Okay, so the dialogue is sometimes contrived, but it is delivered in such an unassuming manner that you can't help but to accept it (something the prequels could have learned from). Much of the credit for this has to go to director Irvin Kershner, who manages to coax some genuinely impressive performances from his actors. His ability to see past the script and go with what feels 'right' is what gave us Han Solo's famous 'I know' line. For me, it is this humanity that sets Empire apart from the other films in the series.
This Blu-ray release is all-but identical to the 2004 DVD release in terms of content. There are a couple of very minor cosmetic alterations used to fix or enhance existing effects shots, but nothing that changes the tone or pacing of the film. Thank the maker, as C-3PO would say.
Once again we have a transfer derived from the master created for the 2004 DVD release, complete with associated image issues. Broadly speaking the 2.35:1 widescreen (1080/24p AVC) image looks pretty good, but as with A New Hope there are a number of 'features' that take the shine off of things. Chief among these is the colour palette, which is over-saturated to the point where the image takes on a hyper-real quality. Whether this bothers you will depend largely on your attachment to the original colour timing, but in my opinion it's been pushed too far. The revised timing has drastically altered the look of the picture when compared to the original version of the film, particularly the scenes set on Hoth, and what used to be a white, snow-covered planet is now more of a steely blue. The boosting is particularly obvious with skin tones, with the majority of characters looking like they've been stealing makeup from Princess Leia's handbag. I really wish that things had been dialled back for a more natural look, but even so the stability is a lot better than that of A New Hope. There are still issues with the colour of lighsabers, which unlike the other films in the trilogy haven't received any digital touch-ups. Both Luke and Vader's blades still lack vibrancy and the latter's saber is still pink instead of red. Contrast is also an issue, with blooming and black crush in evidence throughout, although to be fair it's not as extreme as A New Hope and more detail is retained in the shadows.
Speaking of detail, I would class it as acceptable rather than excellent. Although some of the close-ups look quite nice facial textures still have a bit of a mushy appearance and they lack the sort of fine detail you'd expect from the very best transfers. I'm not expecting razor sharp clarity from thirty-year-old anamorphic photography, but I've seen older films look more impressive. With that said I understand that the film was originally shot with a more diffuse look than A New Hope, which could account for some of the softness, but I can't rule out DNR. Another annoyance is the return of 'Lowry' grain, which occasionally looks like it's taken a trip through the carbon freezing process. Thankfully a positive side-effect of the restoration was the removal of most of the print debris, so the image does look very clean. It seems redundant to repeat my comments about the need for a proper restoration, and while there is undoubted room for improvement I found Empire a more consistent presentation than A New Hope. Even so I don't think it warrants a significantly higher video score though, and as we don't do half marks here it remains tied with the original film. When compared to the DVD there is a noticeable bump in quality and I fully expect the 'average Joe' to be over the moon with what's on offer here.
Yet another DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1 soundtrack graces this release, and it sounds every bit as good as the others. There's plenty of discrete action on offer, beginning right from the opening moments with the sound of probe droids launching from the hanger bay of a cruising Star Destroyer before hurtling off in different directions throughout the galaxy. I also got a real kick of hearing the tiny TIE Fighters buzz around the mammoth Super Star Destroyer as the Empire approached Hoth. Speaking of Hoth, the battle features a huge number of discrete effects, as snowspeeders circle the giant AT-ATs in an attempt to ensnare them with their tow cables and powerful laser blasts zip in every direction. Another highlight includes the chase through the asteroid field, in which the sound of the Falcon and pursuing TIEs twists and turns through the soundstage as hunks of rocky debris shot overhead. On the negative side the surround channels once again have a tendency to dominate the mix, and I would have preferred it if they had just a little less presence. Still, it seems that these mixes have intentionally been mixed 'hot' and although louder doesn't equal better I must confess that it made a pleasing change from the sometimes whisper-quiet surrounds that accompany many modern mixes.
As usual atmospherics are great, be it the wind howling across Hoth's icy tundra or the sound debris falling during the attack on Echo Base. Speaking of the Rebel base, it feels genuinely 'lived in' thanks to the sound of engineers working to repair speeders, general radio chatter, and the high-pitched whine of tauntauns. Dagobah is another ambient treat; whether it's the varied cries of the swamp or the torrential rain that batters Yoda's hut, you really are transported you to the 'slimy mudhole' that our little green friend calls home. Another positive is the dialogue, which is much cleaner and clearer than A New Hope with almost none of the normalisation issues. One or two lines were a little indistinct, but if memory serves this has been the case in every version of the movie so far and occurs only when characters are almost out of earshot.
Bass is extremely robust, with everything from the weighty footsteps of the AT-ATs to the roar of the Falcon's engines packing a huge punch. The various explosions are particularly powerful, although once again I felt that they had a tendency to be a little too powerful at times. I'm all for a bit of potent LFE, but when chunks of ice hitting the floor pack more of a wallop than the explosions found in most other films it goes a bit far. For me Empire features the most memorable music of the entire saga. It's certainly my favourite soundtrack, with iconic pieces such as 'The Imperial March', 'The Battle of Hoth', 'The Asteroid Field', 'Yoda's Theme' and 'The Clash of Lightsabers' on fairly consistent rotation on my mp3 player. On the down side Lucasfilm still hasn't fixed the very obvious audio synch error as Luke escapes the wampa's lair, and his saber can still be heard to deactivate while it's clearly still on.
Another release another commentary track lifted from the 2004 DVD release. This time it features George Lucas, Ben Burtt, Carrie Fisher and Irvin Kershner. It is Kershner's presence on the track that actually makes things a little more interesting this time around, as he at least manages to sound enthusiastic about the film. It's a pity that Dennis Muren's input had to be sacrificed to include him though.
The second commentary is yet another patchwork affair, this time drawing upon the experiences of Jeremy Bulloch, Ben Burtt, Anthony Daniels, Peter Diamond, Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, Stuart Freeborn, Steve Gawley, Alec Guinness, March Hamill, Joe Johnston, Lawrence Kasdan, Irvin Kershner, Gary Kurtz, George Lucas, Peter Mayhew, Ralph McQuarrie, Dannis Muren, Frank Oz, Ken Ralston, Norman Reynolds, Robert Watts and Billy Dee Williams. As I've said in the previous reviews, I enjoy these commentaries largely because they include guys like Harrison Ford and Alec Guinness, who haven't been terribly vocal about their involvement with the trilogy.
For my money The Empire Strikes Back is undoubtedly the finest of the three original Star Wars movies, and therefore easily the best of the entire saga. It has just the right blend of action, romance, mystery and intrigue to engage audiences of all ages on different levels, and I think it's one of the finest genre pictures around. It's the one film that I can honestly say that I never tire of watching. As with A New Hope the Blu-ray is a frustrating blend of the good and the bad. On one hand it is clearly superior to the DVD release visually and the audio is fantastic, but once again I can't help but feel that more care and attention should have been taken, particularly with regards to the inconsistent effects shots. However, it seems unfair to judge the release purely on my expectations alone and being as objective as possible I have to admit that I found it to be a pleasing viewing experience. There, you see Lord Vader, I can be reasonable.
* Note: The above images are taken from the Blu-ray release and resized for the page. Full-resolution captures are available by clicking individual images, but due to .jpg compression they are not necessarily representative of the quality of the transfer.
Review by Chris Gould
Suitable for all
Disc Details
Release Date: 12th September 2011
Discs: 1
Disc Type: Blu-ray Disc
RCE: No
Video: 1080p
Aspect: 2.35:1
Anamorphic: No
Colour: Yes
Audio: DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1 English, Dolby Digital 5.1 French, Dolby Digital 5.1 Portuguese, Dolby Digital 5.1 Spanish, Audio Description Dolby Digital 5.1 English
Subtitles: Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish
Extras: Audio Commentaries
Easter Egg: No
Feature Details
Director: Irvin Kershner
Cast: Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, David Prowse, Billy Dee Williams, Frank Oz, Anthony Daniels, Kenny Baker, Peter Mayhew
Length: 127 minutes
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text: From Israel to Montreal, Why Hillel is a Great Place to Work I find little moments of joy when I get an email from a student asking to help them get back to Israel, to go for exchange, to learn Hebrew, or just to talk about Israel. by Shira Prigat, Israel Fellow at Hillel Montreal |Jul 08, 2013|Comments Coming to work at Hillel Montreal, I can't really say I had any idea what I was coming into. Even with trainings, conversations with prior Jewish Agency for Israel Fellows, and emails with the Hillel Montreal staff, I still couldn't imagine the everyday life here. I arrived about a year and a half ago. For a few weeks, I listened and watched my colleagues work while learning as much as I could. I found an office of joyful people, coming to work with smiles on their faces, excited to do their jobs. The enthusiasm is contagious and I found myself happy to wake up and come to work. I was taking it for granted, but really, it's not that common to love what you do. So what is it that I do? At the beginning, I got excited to basically just be Israeli. That's not too hard for me, born and raised in Israel. Then I came to understand that being an Israel Fellow is not all about just being Israeli; it is about relationships with the students. It's about finding what connects you to each individual you are getting to know, realizing how you can connect them to yourself, and by that, to Israel. With some of the students, my work is not that difficult. It can be a natural conversation with a student telling you why he or she loves Israel so much. With others, I find myself challenged to really explain why I love Israel so much. I am doing my job just by challenging other people to think. Further, having the students challenge me to evolve is amazing. Hillel Montreal has given me the opportunity to grow in other fields as well. All staff members are eligible to get "professional development" budgets that allow you to learn and develop yourself. I learned French - merci beaucoup! Last year was the first year Hillel Montreal had an Israel Fellow. Although there was always someone who dealt with Israel programing, there was never this specific job description. Looking back, I think my main focus last year was stabilizing the "Jewish Agency Israel Fellow" position. All in all, I managed to spread the word about Israel and the students realized the importance of my job at Hillel Montreal. I find little moments of joy when I get an email from a student asking to help them get back to Israel, to go for exchange, to learn Hebrew, or just to talk about Israel. Those are times I feel lucky to work in an organization such as Hillel - an organization that allows you the freedom to find what you're good at and to excel in what you do best. Shira Prigat is Hillel Montreal's first Israel Fellow. As an Israeli, she isn't used to the chilly weather, but she is trying to take advantage of it as much as she can. Back to Top Tags: Hillel Montreal JAFI Israel Fellows Shira Prigat {{Title}} [x] Add or, Select from existing Opening existing... Close existing Most popular tags Click to select: Show all2441Tags Show only most popular Opening all... {{Title}} ({{ItemsCount}})


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Experience will make difference
Golfers open season at Kearney.
The experiences members of the Swede girls golf team had last season were not always pleasant.
Playing a course for the first time can cause tremendous nerves and not performing to personal expectation may leave golfers unhappy.
"I won't say it was always a good experience," said coach Jim Henke. "But it was experience, valuable experience and as long as they learned something along the way, it was worth it."
That year of playing high school golf should make a world of difference for this season's Swede team.
"I've already seen improvement from last year," Henke said. "As long as they're willing to learn and have fun in the process, we will be fine."
Senior Elizabeth Graham returns in the No. 1 position for Gothenburg having lettered two straight seasons.
Graham finished seventh at the Southwest Conference meet last year and was named to the all-conference second team.
Teammate Sidney Thompson, also a senior, finished 12th at SWC and earned honorable mention.
"We'll be looking to those two for a lot of leadership," Henke said. "They've been pretty good at keeping everyone on a positive keel and that is important, especially for the younger players."
Haley Scheidt, Anna Boson and Jourdan Matthies complete the group of returning letter winners.
"Having five girls with varsity meet experience should offer better balance," Henke said.
The Swedes open the year Thursday at the Kearney Catholic Invite at Meadowlark Hills facing the 2008 Class C state champion Stars.
"We play in that meet because that's where our district is," Henke said.
With the C-4 district meet in Kearney, the Stars get a big advantage, one that Henke says they don't need.
Two Kearney Catholic players medaled at state last fall and the team won the title by 36 strokes. Only one of the five team players graduated.
Minden, a SWC and district opponent, finished second at state in 2008 with one medalist. The Whippets also had only one graduate.
"The good thing about that is it leaves the third-place spot wide open," Henke said.
Gothenburg finished sixth in the C-4 district last fall with golfers who had little experience. With the improvement Henke has seen so far, he said making it to state is not an outlandish goal.
"I think we will be competitive," he said.
Members of the 2009 Gothenburg girls golf team are (*denotes letter winner):
Seniors—Elizabeth Graham*, Haley Scheidt*, Sidney Thompson*.
JUNIORS—Anna Boson*, Becca Else, Jourdan Matthies*, Brittany Ostergard.
SOPHOMORES—Saraid Baca, Taylor Rittgarn.
FRESHMEN—Kristen Bart-lett, Danielle Schriver, Cassandra Stevens, Heidi Teahon.
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Fairfield and the region is in for another cold, windy day that could feature wind chill temperatures well below zero. And snow, although not as much as earlier forecasts showed, is still expected later Friday, Jan. 25, according to the National Weather Service.
"As low pressure takes shape off the mid-Atlantic Coast this morning, and strong high pressure builds east from the upper midwest, a gusty northwest flow will return today," according to a weather service special statement issued Thursday morning, Jan. 24. "Gusts by mid morning will be approaching 25 mph and as high as 30 mph this afternoon. This will result in wind chill values this morning from around zero at the coast to as low as 10-below across the interior.
"During afternoon hours, wind chill values will be in the single digits for most of the region but then drop back to zero to 10-below tonight."
The arctic air is expected to remain in place Friday and Friday night as low pressure passes off to the southeast and brings some light snow late in the day, according to the weather service. "Slow moderation in temperature and wind chills should then begin over the weekend into early next week in the wake of this system."
Wednesday night and Thursday morning the temperatures got down into the mid-single digits with wind chill below zero.
Thursday's high in Bridgeport is expected to be near 21, but closer to zero with the wind chill. Thursday night, the low is going to be around 8 degrees with a wind chill value of -5.
On Friday, the chance for snow is mainly after 4 p.m. The high will be around 22, according to the weather service. But the wind chill will make it feel like -2. The chance of afternoon snow is 30%.
Snow is more likely Friday night before midnight. It is going to be cloudy with a low around 16 and lighter wind. Chance of snow is 60% Friday night. Accumulations right now is forecast for less than an inch.
Saturday's high is 27, with 8 to 16 mph winds; Saturday's low is around 11. Sunday is expected to be sunny with a high near 30; the low around 17. Monday could bring scattered flurries and a high near 37; Monday night could bring more flurries and a low of 27.
Things are expected to start really getting warmer on Tuesday, which has forecasted high of 44; Tuesday night could feature some rain and low of 35. Wednesday could bring more showers and high near 48.
Avoid prolonged exposure to the cold, the weather service warns. "For those venturing out, wear a warm coat, gloves and cover your head to protect against frostbite and hypothermia," the service suggests. "Limit areas of exposed skin. Dressing in layers can also help protect against the cold. In addition, water needs to be shut off to any water pipes to prevent pipes from bursting."


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The centerpiece of any homegrown Thanksgiving meal, assuming you are not a vegetarian, is inevitably the homegrown turkey. And there are a lot of good reasons to get a local turkey or raise your own – there's the flavor which is richer and deeper, an essence of turkey thing, there's the fact that you know what went into it. And there's the fact that by raising older breeds of turkeys, you actually preserve their future by eating them – honestly, there is no retirement home for elderly turkeys, and no one keeps them as pets. The future of the Blue Slate and the Standard Bronze depends heavily on their future as meat animals – and the extinction of a breed of livestock is a tragedy.
If you are thinking of raising your own turkey, you should know two things. The first is that all the comments about turkeys being dumb as rocks are pretty much true. The second, much less commonly known thing is that turkeys are extremely endearing. Their profound stupidity only makes them cuter, somehow. The domestication of many animals obviously reduces their instincts and their wild intelligence, but turkeys are the apex of stupid – the difference between the wild turkey and the tame one is far greater than between the wolf and the dog or wild cattle and the Jersey. Why this is I don't know, but it is.
I know people who claim that only the hybrid turkeys are dumb, but we haven't found this to be true. We've raised the broad breasted whites, as well as Blue Slates, Bourbon Reds and Black Spanish. The whites may be a bit more dim, but this is a comparison mostly without meaning. All of them are easily confused.
One of my Blue Slates last year killed himself because he panicked at the sight of our dog (who was not paying any attention to him) and ran straight into a metal fence post and brained himself. If the gate to our goat pasture is open, it forms a V shape with our fence – in order to go out the gate, an animal simply needs to walk around the gate and go out. The turkeys of all breeds are completely incapable of figuring this out, and inevitably have to be rescued from panicky misery as everyone else heads into the barn, and two poor birds who have forgotten that they could either walk around or fly over the fence stare in painful dismay.
But unlike hybrid meat chickens, which are dumb and repulsive, turkeys are vacant and sweet. They make endearing little peeping noises (they don't gobble until they are full adults) when they are small, and they really like people. Ours follow us everywhere we go, and will sit on the fence and talk to us, while we talk back to them. Even their faces are sweet, to my eyes – in that Lyle Lovett, so-ugly-they-are-cute sort of way.
We will be keeping three of the bourbon reds over the winter, to hatch out our own poults again next year. I may also add the old standard bronze – not the hybrid, but the smaller one that can still breed normally, since they too are endangered. My hope is that the following year, we'll have enough broody hens and enough good turkeys to offer poults through our local farmer's market, and begin to rely less on distant hatcheries for our stock.
We are gradually picking and choosing breeds of birds to focus on, and hoping to begin small scale hatching locally to provide one more pocket of resilience in our community. We know that no matter how hard times get, most people won't want to give up their Thanksgiving turkey, and so propagating stock locally is essential.
Just as we trying to grow our own, and save seed, and share seed with others, we are trying to recreate what once existed – Thanksgiving is a meal that echoes with the tastes of the past, and with a local cultures whose vestiges still exist, and that can be restored. We want to have food worth being grateful for, after all. Besides, we like turkeys. Brains aren't everything, you know.


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Ayotte joins Senate chorus asking for answers on BenghaziFrom Staff and Wire Reports
November 14. 2012 8:06PM
Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., supported Sen. John McCain's call for a special select committee to investigate the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.
At a joint news conference Wednesday with McCain and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, Ayotte said, "There is no more important responsibility than members of Congress having to get to the bottom of it.
"And frankly, where we are right now, we have more questions than answers and the answers that we have gotten, because it has been given in a disjointed fashion from the administration, the answers we have received have raised more questions," Ayotte said.
The three Republican senators also said that if United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice were nominated to serve as secretary of state, they would block her nomination because of how she explained the roots of the Sept. 11 attack.
During a news conference later in the day, President Barack Obama strongly defended Rice. Bristling with indignation, Obama said Rice has "done exemplary work" with "skill, professionalism and toughness and grace."
He then made an almost personal challenge to McCain, Graham and Ayotte.
"If Sen. McCain and Sen. Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me," Obama said. "For them to go after the U.N. ambassador who had nothing to do with Benghazi ... to besmirch her reputation is outrageous."
Obama said he hasn't made any final decisions on who to nominate to Cabinet posts in his second term, but said that he would not hesitate to nominate Rice even in the face of Republican opposition.
Graham responded to Obama's comments by e-mail just as the news conference concluded. "Mr. President, don't think for one minute I don't hold you ultimately responsible for Benghazi," Graham said in a statement. "I think you failed as commander in chief before, during, and after the attack."
Obama is reportedly considering Rice to succeed Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton as part of a series of moves that might also send Sen. John F. Kerry, D-Mass., to lead the Pentagon. Rice, 47, served as an adviser to Obama's 2008 presidential campaign and was later tapped to represent the United States at U.N. headquarters in New York. Rice appeared on all five major-network Sunday morning political talk shows less than a week after the Benghazi attack.
During those interviews, Rice said that the attack grew out of a spontaneous demonstration against an anti-Muslim video. But reports from the ground and statements by administration officials since Rice's comments have varied
Graham was especially critical of Rice on Wednesday and said her comments on the shows were "so disconnected to reality, I don't trust her. And the reason I don't trust her is because I think she knew better, and if she didn't know better, she shouldn't be the voice of America. Somebody has got to start paying a price around this place."
Ayotte agreed: "You don't end up on every single major Sunday show without affirmatively putting yourself out there or wanting to carry forward a message on behalf of the administration. I think that there's a certain responsibility with the current position that she has to ask proper questions about what we did and didn't know at that point before she affirmatively puts herself out there on every major network to communicate to the American people."
The senators said they want a special joint committee to investigate the attack and hear testimony from the administration's top national security officials, including former CIA director David Petraeus, because separate ongoing investigations by the Senate's armed services, foreign relations and intelligence committees will only yield partial information.
Late Wednesday, the House intelligence committee announced Petraeus would testify on Friday behind closed doors about the attack.
"The three committees will not be able to hear what the other groups are saying," Graham said. "I'd like to ask Gen. Petraeus some questions, and I'm sure there are some people on the [Intelligence Committee] that would like to hear what the Department of Defense has to say about their handling of the Benghazi attack. And when it comes to the State Department, all of us would like to know, why were there so many requests for additional security denied."
Ayotte said: "We owe it to the American people to make sure that we understand exactly what happened, what went wrong, why couldn't the greatest military in the world respond when an attack occurred almost over a seven-hour period, and why were there, at a minimum, misstatements made, and certainly misimpressions given to the American people about the nature of this attack in the immediate explanations provided by the administration in the two weeks following the attack."
But Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid, D-Nev., said Wednesday that he would not bring the senators' resolution up for a vote. And Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., also said Wednesday that she wouldn't support establishing a select committee: "We're doing our inquiry; that's already under way."
In his remarks, Obama also denied that the military or CIA held back any assets or effort in attempts to rescue the Americans under attack. "My orders to my national security team were to do whatever we need to do to make sure they are safe," Obama said.
Ed O'Keefe and Greg Miller of The Washington Post contributed to this report.
VIDEO: Sen. Ayotte discusses the attacks and the search for answers on Fox News:


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Wednesday, May 8, 2013
Should genealogists edit photographs?
But underlying this effort is a real question. We presently have extremely sophisticated photo editing capabilities. With a little time and effort, I can make significant changes to any digitized image, as can anyone with knowledge of the same programs. But collectively, as a genealogical community, we have little or no standards as to what is or is not an acceptable edit to a digitized photograph. For an example, here is a screen shot of the photos loaded into the FamilySearch Photos program for one of my ancestors: (you may need to click on these images to see the detail)
In this collage of photos, you can see four photos that are apparently from the same original, but in each case the photos are slightly different. There has been little editing, but the duplicate photo on the lower right has been cropped and is of poorer quality than the others. In addition, The lower left photo has been scanned from an image that was not only cut to shape, but also has a substantial color/tonal change to a false sepia. The group photo in the center of the photo is also edited, although you might not recognize that fact unless you had the original for comparison. Here is an unedited copy of the original photograph:
The second photo from the bottom of the page is the same photo shown on the top right of the page. However, the image has been inverted from left to right in the image on the top of the page. If is also obvious from the full image on the left of the bottom of the page, that the photograph is itself a copy of an earlier photograph, so we have no idea if the right/left distinction in the original photograph has been maintained in the printing. In addition, the photograph that shows as the second one down on top right of the first photograph above, has 8 images, at least two of which are cropped images from other photos that appear on the page.
So, it appears that for many years, long before computers, these photos were being edited, sometimes simply to fit into an album or on a pedigree chart. Is there an issue here? Do we need to simply give up and say that all is fair in photo manipulation and that is the end of the discussion?
Just as a failure to add sources has been a longstanding burden on the genealogical community, I believe that modifying, editing and changing original photographs is also a great disservice to the community. Over the past year or so, I have had several discussions with photo archivists. In every instance when I had a question about editing the content of the photos I was scanning, I have been told not to make any changes at all, if possible with only some very limited exceptions.
Photography is more art than science. But to the extent possible as conservators of the past, we should not destroy the very heritage we are trying to preserve. Genealogy is not scrapbooking. Scrapbooking has its place and if anyone wants to modify a copy of a photograph, they can certainly do so, but to the extent possible, we need to protect and preserve our "original" photographs from any further changes that might alter the content, even in ways that are otherwise "acceptable."
I also recognize, with the vast number of photographs being digitized and the ease in making edits and changes, that this issue will become a huge problem. At which point in the editing process will we entirely lose the ability to identify the original photograph?
I realize that I am frequently raising issues that need to be addressed by the greater genealogical community but seldom go anywhere past my brief blog posts. But this is an issue that goes to the heart of historicity of the images we intend to preserve as a society and as a culture. We may end up losing our heritage of photography, not to decay of the original paper photographs, but to the quick and easy editing ability of our software. We need standards for establishing original photos and for "acceptable" editing as well as a way to deal with changed or degraded copies of the originals, when the originals are available.
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I appreciate your post. Will you share it with FHISO? I have been anxious for an ability to link multiple photos in FamilySearch. I think this ability should become a standard. The original scan and edits should be able to be easily marked as such. I support fields for all data needed for basic analysis. Date taken, previous owner, photographer, photo type, original or edit, ect.ReplyDelete
James, thanks for raising the topic. I agree that photos should basically not be altered. What about cropping or quality corrections? Are there occasions where these (and maybe other functions) are acceptable? Do photojournalists have a standard that we could consider?ReplyDelete
I also agree that a standard should be established for embedding source and copyright information INTO photos. But please use the EXIF or IPTC areas already established - don't reinvent the wheel.
All of these points may already be established as standards somewhere. If so, I would love to know where.
In his response, Michael McCormick (no known relationship) mentioned clearly marked edits. In our household, my husband has kept all his original uploads and original scans separated from any editing he has done. We have not yet solved our storage management problems, but whatever choice we make will clearly separate the originals from any edited version.ReplyDelete
I see a value in some uses of edited photos. If I am talking about my uncle's photographs, you should see those images as I have them. If I am using some of those photographs to show my sister's mood changes as a toddler, than I believe that darkroom errors and time blemishes can and should be edited out. I want you to look at my sister, NOT at the photography. But I also believe that the edited images should be so identified, and that the editor should be identified.
Thank you for starting this discussion.
Sue McCormick


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Bernstein Festival of the Arts aims to activate the Brandeis campus
Annual event runs from April 26 through 29Creativity and community will reign as the annual Leonard Bernstein Festival of the Creative Arts takes over campus this week.
In honor of founder Leonard Bernstein's commitment to engaging people in the arts and Brandeis' spirit of social justice, "Activate Art" is the theme of this year's festival, which will run from April 26 to 29.
"The arts at Brandeis activate so many of the university's goals and values," says Director of the Office of the Arts Scott Edmiston. "The arts activate the legacy of Bernstein. They activate ideas and the imagination. They activate our commitment to social justice. And they activate our relationship with Boston area artists and families who are part of our extended community."
The festival will feature performances and artwork by students, faculty, alumni and professor guest artists. American composer and conductor Bernstein, then a Brandeis faculty member, founded the event 60 years ago. The tradition continues, free and open to the public, and last year attracted an estimated 6,000 visitors to campus.
"Art is more than something to passively enjoy," says Ingrid Schorr, associate arts director, and the four-day festival will feature a number of events that encourage active participation.
Highlights of the packed schedule include:
The Rose Art Museum will host dance and music performances and offer tours of its exhibitions, "Art at the Origin: The Early Sixties," "Collecting Stories" and Bruce Conner's "EVE-RAY-FOREVER" as it concludes its 50th anniversary celebration. Artwork created especially for the festival by students in Brandeis's acclaimed studio arts programs will be exhibited all across the campus, and local artist Richard Bertman will show viewer-activated moving sculptures.
Performances by faculty, alumni, and students include "Beyond the Boundaries," an original sculpture and dance collaboration; a concert by the Brandeis-Wellesley Orchestra featuring the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto (1878); "BEAMS at 50," experimental multi-media music; and music of Ghana, the Middle East and the Spanish Renaissance.
Activities for families and children will be offered on Sunday, April 29. Guest artists and performers include Sidewalk Sam, Miss Tess and the Bon Ton Parade (New England Music Award Jazz Act of the Year) and a participatory parade led by two brass bands, the Second Line Social Aid and Pleasure Society and the What Cheer? Brigade, veterans of the Honk! Parade in Somerville. Internationally acclaimed animated films and a Leonard Bernstein's beloved "Young People's Concert" program will be screened. The Lydian String Quartet will perform newly composed tributes to Brandeis President Fred Lawrence who has renewed the university's commitment and pride in the arts.
For a complete schedule, visit the Leonard Bernstein Festival of the Creative Arts website.
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Jeff Carter has finally spoken.
After the Columbus Dispatch reported that the Blue Jackets sent an envoy that included general manager Scott Howson, coach Scott Arniel and captain Rick Nash here to speak to a radio silent Carter, the former Flyers leading scorer has finally addressed his stunning trade.
"You feel anger and betrayal and all of the emotions that go along with being traded," Carter told the Columbus Dispatch. "Sometimes it's best to just sit back and think about what you're going to say than get right out there and say things that you'll regret.
"My decision to not talk had absolutely nothing to do with being traded to Columbus. I know that it's a team that has struggled in the past but there's a great future. I'm excited to be there, to be a part of it."
The two sides reportedly met for 90 minutes on Monday at his beach house in Sea Isle City, N.J.
"It was great," Carter said. "I really appreciate them making the trip down here to come see me. It shows a lot on their part, that they're excited to have me. We talked for a while about the team, their direction. We talked about the city.
"Just sitting down and talking with them, it got me real excited, and wishing the season would start a little earlier."
EARLIER: (provided for perspective on how tough it was to get Carter to talk)
As of Saturday, no member of the Columbus Blue Jackets organization – save a small text message exchange with captain Rick Nash – including general manager Scott Howson had any contact with Jeff Carter.
Carter was dealt last Thursday.
On Monday, the Blue Jackets decided to take the matter into their own hands, sending an envoy of club personnel to Philadelphia to meet with the player who is supposed to be the new face of their franchise.
According to the Columbus Dispatch, team majority owner John P. McConnell, Howson, Nash, and former Flyer R.J. Umberger were flying to Philadelphia today to try and seek out Carter.
Carter has also yet to publicly address his stunning trade.
Carter's agent, Rick Curran, who said last Friday that the Flyers had given his client re-assurance as soon as early last week that he would not be traded, said he believes Carter will play for Columbus.
"I don't think it's going to be an issue," Curran told the Dispatch.
He is set to begin an 11-year, $58 million contract with Columbus on July 1.
Holmgren denied on Friday night that he had told Carter he would not be traded during their face-to-face meeting.
"I was in the room," Holmgren said. "That's not how I would describe the conversation."
Here's more from the Dispatch, with two separate stories about the vibe of Carter blowing off his new town and team, imploring the disappointed 26-year-old to "act like a grown-up:"
"It's hard for me to fathom that his agent, Rick Curran, hasn't produced some sort of press release including Carter quotes. You know, something along the lines of 'I'm very excited for a new opportunity, and I can't wait to get settled in Columbus.'
Trust me, agents have been cranking out 'quotes' like this for many years now.
I've spoken to five agents about this situation. They can't believe it. One said: 'He's got to turn off his emotions for 10 minutes and make a phone call.'
-Columbus Dispatch Blue Jackets beat reporter Aaron Portzline.
"Carter could help reverse the trend by simply doing what most traded players do in these situations - act like a grown-up. It's easy to understand why he is ticked at the Flyers; he signed an 11-year contract with the team because he wanted to be in Philadelphia, and had been told that the trade rumors were only that: rumors. But Carter's petulance is undermining Howson's efforts to improve the team that he is going to play for and if he doesn't at least act like he wants to be here, Carter might even doom it to more losing.
Early in the franchise's history, Columbus was actually a destination for some players. Many saw a bright hockey future in a clean, livable city with an underrated night life and a great family atmosphere. The city hasn't changed, but poor draft picks, bad decisions and a history of losing have made the franchise harder and harder to sell.
The Carter deal should help the team tremendously, but it only added to the team's perception problem. As unfair as it must seem to Howson, he is back at the plate with the game on the line again." -Columbus Dispatch columnist Bob Hunter.
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'Persons of interest' in 1974 murder to appear at inquest
THREE men identified by police as "persons of interest" in the brutal cold case murder of Sydney nurses Wendy Evans, 18, and Lorraine Wilson, 20, will give evidence when an inquest opens in April.
They are the only surviving suspects of a police investigation that has spanned almost four decades since the womens' disappearance in 1974 and the gruesome discovery of their bodies dumped in bushland at Murphys Creek, near Toowoomba, two years later.
A pre-inquest conference in Brisbane yesterday identified persons of interest Desmond Roy Hilton, Allan Neil Laurie and Terrance James O'Neill would be called to give evidence when it opened before State Coroner Michael Barnes in Toowoomba on April 8 next year.
Counsel assisting the Coroner Craig Chowdhury also identified now deceased Allan John Laurie; Wayne Hilton; Donald Laurie; and Larry Charles as persons of interest in the case.
An inquest in 1985 ruled the women met with "foul play" after their bodies were found in bushland on June 26, 1976 with skull fractures and marks consistent with being bound with the cord of a venetian blind.
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Patricia Cunningham, 74 - July 28, 2010
Patricia "Pat" R. Cunningham, 74, of Cozad passed away Monday, July 19, 2010, at the Cozad Community Hospital.
Services took place on Thursday, July 22, at the Parkview United Methodist Church of Cozad with the Revs. Doug Smith and Cesar Duran officiating. Burial was at the Grandview Cemetery, north of Willow Island.
Cunningham was preceded in death by her parents, Wayne and Rena.
Survivors include: her husband, Paul of Cozad; a daughter, Kathy (Randy) Jacob of Cozad; two sons—David (Lori) Cunningham of Rock Springs, WY, and Doug (Ellen) Cunningham of Lexington; a brother, Roger (Carrie) Geiken of Blue Springs, MO; sister, Beverly (Elmer) Jackson of Albuquerque, NM; five grandchildren—Elizabeth (Jay) Mins of Lexington, Jared Jacob of Cozad, Stephanie (Marty) Coble of Kearney, Heath Jacob of Grand Island and Matthew Cunningham of Lexington; a great-grandson, Ethan Mins of Lexington; numerous other relatives.
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May 07. 2013 1:21PM
Manchester police investigate stabbing reported outside Mexican restaurant
MANCHESTER - Police are investigating a stabbing that reportedly happened late Sunday night or early Monday morning just outside Don Quijote's, 360 Union St.
A 22-year-old Lawrence, Mass., man, whose name police did not release, reported an acquaintance stabbed him several times in the back and once in the chest in the incident. Police said the Lawrence man went to the bar/restaurant Sunday with his girlfriend where he saw the other man.
Later, he had a conversation with the man just outside the front door. The man, he said, suddenly became upset and began striking at him. The Lawrence man said he did not realize the man had a knife until he saw his hand was cut when he blocked a blow.
The man said the attack continued until other bar patrons separated them. The other man ran off, he told police.
Initially, the injured man went to the Elliot Hospital to be treated but, he told police, he decided to leave and treat the wounds himself. He did not report the incident to police until 10:45 p.m. Monday, nearly 11 hours after it reportedly happened.


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U.S. and Japanese central bank quantitative easing programs are placing China between a rock and a hard place in which a revaluation of the Chinese yuan vs. the U.S. dollar may turn out to be the least bad solution from the point of view of China's leadership.
If that turns out to be the case, it would be seen as an important victory for the U.S. and Japan. QE would have scored where hardnosed negotiations so often failed. It would also set a worrying precedent in which QE is no longer just viewed as a means for economic stimulus, but also as a weapon. Possibly one far cheaper and more effective than gunboats.
For millennia China's rulers have been deeply preoccupied with unemployment and inflation, which have the potential to cause popular unrest and un-seat rulers. Even the departing Premier Wen Jiabao recently warned that keeping prices in check would remain a key challenge for the country's policy makers.
China holds a dim view of the U.S. Federal Reserve's money creation programs because they are causing commodity prices to rise and are fuelling hot money flows into countries not pursuing easy money policies, such as China. With the Bank of Japan promising to be every bit as aggressive as the Fed, there is likely to be even greater pressure on China's inflation.
With inflation looking like more of a threat to China than unemployment at the moment, China may have no other choice than to revalue CNY upwards vs. USD.
China's consumer prices registered a 10-month high in February of 3.2% year-on-year, but more seriously in terms of popular discontent potential, food prices rose 6%. That's partly down to China's New Year festivities. But flows of speculative capital driven by foreign central bank QE programs could see China's inflation levels pushing higher.
The magnet for that hot money is partly because CNY has risen in value pulled up by its USD peg. According to the People's Bank of China there was 684 billion CNY ($109 billion) worth of foreign currency exchanged in January, a record for a single month.
Large inflows of hot money can spur imbalances in China's economy as it feeds the already significant shadow banking system and speculative activity in real estate and commodities, making them more expensive for industry and households.
China could simply try and clamp down on those capital inflows and that's still a possibility. But it has porous capital controls and the authorities want China to become an international finance center and for the CNY to one day become a reserve currency. Enforcing stricter capital controls would be a retrogressive step in terms of achieving those objectives.
The downside of allowing CNY to appreciate, especially against USD, is that it will make many of China's exporters uncompetitive and that will create unemployment in the coastal cities. Also, rebalancing toward a consumer driven economy and more value added activity still has a long way to go.
Depending how a CNY revaluation was managed it could suck in even more hot money if speculators were left anticipating further appreciation. But it should make the cost of fuel and food cheaper for Chinese citizens, and therefore sustain their disposable income, which would help develop a more consumer-driven economy. At the same time a stronger CNY would make it cheaper for Chinese companies to acquire assets abroad and encourage some outflows of money.
Another important factor, the U.S. has stopped publicly accusing China of manipulating its currency. That could be an opportunity for China to review its currency peg without losing face and attribute such a move to domestic factors such as helping to control inflation.


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NC man went weeks without knowing he'd won lottery
NC man went weeks without knowing he'd won lottery
A western North Carolina man carried around a winning lottery ticket in his wallet for two weeks before realizing he'd hit a jackpot.
The Times-News of Henderson reported Friday that once Wade Haskett of Waynesville learned the ticket in his pocket was worth $118,180 he bought a lockbox to keep it safe.
A part-time detention officer for the Haywood County Sheriff's Department, Haskett said he regularly plays the lottery but had not checked his ticket from the Nov. 6 Cash 5 drawing until Sunday, when his wife told him the winning ticket had been bought at a nearby store.
Haskett and his wife plan to use the winnings to buy a new roof and new hardwood floors for their home, help their children and maybe a trip to Florida.


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Whether you're gearing up for a glam night out or just putting an elevated twist on an everyday ensemble, one little tube of lipstick can turn any look into a major style moment. Subtle neutrals and sheer pinks are easy go-tos, but why not go for full-on color? Orange, purple, and yes, even blue can turn your lips into a statement-making accessory—if you can rock it on a chic purse or as a chic, candy-hued manicure, then it'll make for one stylish pout. See how these trendsetting stars are rocking Crayola shades on their kissers, and get inspired to try one for yourself.
It's no secret that this fashionable pop star favors classic, feminine fare both on and off the red carpet—which is why she pulls off this candy-colored shade so well. Its cool undertones pair beautifully with her blue smoky eye, which keeps the ultra girly statement from looking saccharine.
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It's official: this cool maroon is one of fall's major must-haves. Since this dark shade packs a punch, don't be afraid to turn up the volume with the rest of your makeup. Winged liner and lush eyelashes make for a chic combo.
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We've seen plenty of indigo-covered eyelids, but leave it to this stylish rule-breaker to pull it off on her lips! The trick is to pick a bright blue that flatters your skin tone—Rihanna opted for one that creates a cool contrast with her warm complexion. You'll also want to use a precision lip brush to perfect the shape, so the end result is couture-worthy, not costume-y!


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What kind of houses did the poor people of Ancient Greece live in?
What were the walls made of - mud? wood?
Were there quarters of the poor in cities or were the poor living in shanty towns outside the walls?
I have seen several books that describe housing but with nice bright red tiles and beautiful inner courtyards with gardens it is clear that these are houses for the well to do.
While it is true that the better built buildings survive better, Time Watch will often discover things like cattle sheds from Roman Britain so I suspect the silence simply reflects the priorities of the books I have seen so far.


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Dirtside Atomic: Where The Boots And Weapons Are Bigger Than The Skirts
Dirtside Atomc is an online only, freeview scifi series filmed entirely 'on location' in a garage and on a beach. Deb Spoopoo says, 'Most of the props and sets are constructed out of rubbish or stuff from the poundshop.'
The story is based on a intel' mission which goes kind of skew. It involves surreal planets, time travel, spaceships, weapons and computers..
Deb Spoopoo plays the intel officer, in her very draughty clothes, she gets dragged into enabling a nuclear bomb, fighting weird female human entities and … time travel (I'm hooked already). She hopes her neighbours understand about the strange noises eminating from her garage at 3 in the morning.
Pete plays the non-stop-get-from-a-to-z with weapons persona who gets to use Big Guns (capitalised). He also added to the scripts and made up characters and even got to use the chaingun for therapy!
Simon plays the communcator. And looks very swish in his Farscape-ish clothes. The way he talks works well within the film. He says, 'It was an amazing experience." It would be in those outlandish clothes, and he plays the character well, in a somber kind of way.
All of the main three characters look like they've taken their costumes from a mix of 21st century goth/punk - it reminds me of when I used to go to Goth/Rock/Indie clubs in the '90s, and people wore black leather and bits of chains and big biker boots. Thing is, it all fits into the film perfectly.
There is more info in the tech section, but in a nutshell its all done as creatively as possible, as cheaply as possible.
The plot doesn't really invent any new sci-fi wheels, but quite amazingly, makes up for that in other areas, for example, some of the scripting is laugh out loud hilarious, which is unusual in scifi, and even though CGI is used in quite a lot of scenes, it isn't 'in your face'.
If you don't even make a snorting noise during the 'setting the nuclear bomb' scene, you're just plain dead. I particularly liked the sound effects. A lot of the music tracks are looped, but this adds a kind of edginess to it, and the whirls and bleeps are just beautiful, especially when they whir and bleep to visual triggers. And the chaingun, pure bliss.
The technical aspects of the filming are pretty impressive too. Most of the shots with Deb in, seem to be done with a static camera, with Deb filming herself. And imagine how crazy it is to see her fighting herself. A lot of blue/green screening was used; from the photos on the site, it looks like a nice green sheet sellotaped together, but it works so well.
Think: Non corporate Farscape, with creative people behind it who love what they do, and aren't in it just for the money.
Currently seven episodes, each lasting around six minutes.
The amazing 3D environments and renders are done by AlisonGoth.
She finishes by saying, "It's the best fun ever, even better than Doom 3 and pancakes".
You don't want to miss Dirtside Atomic; a bunch of friends messing around, creating something new and which is worth watching. You won't be disappointed!


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Lafayette Residents Survive Fire
A pot left on in a home in the 900 block of Madeline Avenue leads to heavy fire damage inside.
Spokesman Alton Trahan with the Lafayette Fire Department says it happened around 4:00 p.m. Thursday afternoon. He says the occupants were home when the fire started and had left the kitchen while they were cooking. The grease in the pot ignited and spread to the cabinets.
The fire, which was put out in about 15 minutes, was ruled an accident.