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Friday, February 8, 2008
In-Progress At Daytona: Bud Shooutout Practice And "NASCAR Live"
NASCAR returns to the track as SPEED begins coverage of Bud Shooutout practice and adds-in SPEED Stage programming with NASCAR Live.
Coverage begins at 3PM and continues through the night with other programming. This post will serve to host your comments about NASCAR Live with John Roberts and coverage of Bud Shooutout practice with Steve Byrnes.
There will be additional posts upcoming about the other SPEED and ESPN2 programs of Friday night. Please feel free to add your comments.
To post your opinion, just click on the COMMENTS button below and follow the easy instructions. Rules for posting are on the right side of the main page. Thanks again for taking the time to stop by and leave your views on SPEED's Friday coverage.
38 comments:
- Anonymous said...
Nascar Live with Dave Despain?! What????????? That just ruined my day.........
- February 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM
- Anonymous said...
tee hee hee...I thought the same thing when I heard that voice!
- February 8, 2008 at 3:14 PM
- pbump said...
Something is going on with the sound on the HD channel. Is thathappening to anyone else? the regular Speed Channel sounds is fine, as are the commercials ont he HD channel.
- February 8, 2008 at 3:20 PM
- Anonymous said...
Speed is off to a terrible start... Give me Ryan Burr in a suit n tie speaking words in the english language over these clowns anyday!!!!!
- February 8, 2008 at 4:06 PM
- Anonymous said...
Way too much focus on two single drivers. They had an hour and the only two drivers they talked about extensively were Jimmie and Jr. Nice to hear that NASCAR survives on Jr. alone.
- February 8, 2008 at 4:12 PM
- Anonymous said...
No kidding!!! All the sudden NASACR NOW doesnt look so bad! Speed looks like they are still on vacation!
- February 8, 2008 at 4:12 PM
- Anonymous said...
They are playing the background music WAYYYYY too loud, I couldn't understand a word they said coming back from the commercial.
- February 8, 2008 at 4:15 PM
- Lisa Hogan said...
Practice! Cars on the track!
I'm all better now! :)
- February 8, 2008 at 4:24 PM
- stricklinfan82 said...
I like the fact that the new Speed Channel graphics have the specific team style numbers on them (i.e. when the graphic says 24 - Jeff Gordon it uses the '24' style that matches the number on the side of his car). To me that's much more pleasing to the eye than last year's plain text.
One minor problem that I noticed last night during the Shootout drawing too - they're using the wrong '99' for Carl Edwards. They're using the David Reutimann Nationwide style number instead of the Roush Racing style. Not a big deal but if someone in the production truck is reading this you might want to clean that up, LOL :)
It's also very nice to see ONLY the cars ON THE TRACK, starting with the very start of the cars rolling onto the track. It's also nice to see TV coverage of a practice session other than Happy Hour, and that this session is being shown LIVE. Take notes ESPN, this is how it's supposed to be done.
- February 8, 2008 at 4:27 PM
- Anonymous said...
NASCAR Live was a big disappointment earlier. But practice is going along nicely. Good coverage of the cars on the track and good info on people's cars.
- February 8, 2008 at 4:31 PM
- Anonymous said...
HELP!!!!!!My local fox network is not going to air the bud shootout
with direct tv hot pass aree they going to cover sat night race??????
- February 8, 2008 at 4:42 PM
- stricklinfan82 said...
Hotpass is not covering the Budweiser Shootout, only the 36 points races.
- February 8, 2008 at 4:44 PM
- Anonymous said...
@anon 4:42 where do you live? Is it one of the "usual suspect" stations or a new one?
- February 8, 2008 at 4:46 PM
- stricklinfan82 said...
Great job by Speed Channel covering the first practice session. They did everything right to counteract what ESPN did wrong all fall last year. No fancy video packages. No pre-taped full-screen interviews. No 5 minute behind-the-scenes look at the ESPN gizmo of the week. They just showed the cars ON THE TRACK from the very second the session started until the second the red & black flags came out. And they even stuck around for 5 or so extra minutes when the session ran longer than its allotted programming block allowed. Gasp!
Plus, this wasn't even Happy Hour and it was still televised anyway, and shown LIVE nonetheless!
Thank you very much Speed Channel, I'm glad to have you guys back for the next 6 months covering practice the way it should be covered.
- February 8, 2008 at 5:13 PM
- Prospector said...
Recorded the afternoon Speed show. Watched for a half hour and erased the rest. Hope tonites show is better.
One other thought as I watched Ken Squier talk about "The Great American Race".
This, for obvious reasons, may or may not be a "Great Race", but to call it the great AMERICAN Race borders on false advertising.
- February 8, 2008 at 5:19 PM
- Lisa Hogan said...
FOX/SPEED brought all the gang to the track. I appreciate the effort. Some of today's coverage is not what I enjoy; again, I appreciate the effort.
I am very, very happy that they are back!
- February 8, 2008 at 5:38 PM
- batchief said...
I am enjoying the afternoon of broadcasting with all the Speed and Fox people. Just a relaxed atmosphere with good reporting and I have understood every word. Welcome back Speed and Fox, we have missed you.
- February 8, 2008 at 5:39 PM
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- February 8, 2008 at 5:43 PM
- haus20 said...
I have enjoyed having Ken Squire on the broadcast. I am looking forward to him being on the Speed team. The programming has been wonderful, but the audio has been horrible as someone else also noted. The ambient noise and enjgine noise was so overwhelming that you had a very difficult time understanding what the talen was saying. It seems that they have improved it over the last few minutes, but I can't believe that no one in the production truck or at the studio noticed the problem.
The audio was worst during the shootout practice. You could barely hear the talent over the constant hum of the engines.
I am sure Speed will get the audio balanced correctly, but I am surprised that it has seemed to take several hours to see improvement.
- February 8, 2008 at 5:55 PM
- Newracefan said...
Just recently home so missed everything before 6 Thankfully the cars are back on the track for practice cause Nascar Live was a little rockey. Too many voices, somewhat scattered and was it me or did Distain and Squires look a little off. Maybe I'm just not use to seeing them with Nascar an I'm the one who is off. On NOOOOOOO big crash
- February 8, 2008 at 6:39 PM
- Anonymous said...
It sounds like the audio problem is fixed
- February 8, 2008 at 6:41 PM
- stricklinfan82 said...
It's a shame that the normal TV cameras missed the Carl Edwards, Mark Martin, and Dave Blaney portion of the Happy Hour crash. Let's just hope that was a case of having less cameras on hand for practice and not a case of all the cameras zooming-in so close on a couple cars that they missed most of the other cars involved a few yards further up the track.
That's why wide shots are so much better for crashes - they allow us to see ALL the cars involved instead of just getting a really close look at a couple cars crashing.
- February 8, 2008 at 6:56 PM
- stricklinfan82 said...
And they fixed the Carl Edwards number problem on their graphics.... maybe they are listening, LOL. Thanks guys!
- February 8, 2008 at 6:58 PM
- Tripp said...
I too enjoy Ken Squire being a part of the broadcast. He's still got it in addition to the perspective nearly 50 years involvement in the sport. He brings so much to the broadcast.
I can't complain about Despain. INC last year was my only real bump in the road with him in the many years he's been on TV. Speed must have run out of bodies to bring to Daytona. Kidding.
- February 8, 2008 at 7:05 PM
- SophiaZ123 said...
To Follow up on what you sid SPEED is horrible (like the other stationss) at focusing tight shots on a select few. I am shocked they miss the crash live with so few cars on the track.
It was a real ESPN moment. I hope things improve before the broadcast tomorrow.
But I have seen so many tight camera shots, I am not feeling all that hopeful.
But it is good to see the cars running again.
And stop making the PERSON INTERVIEWED (Martin) take up HALF THE SCREEN???? They do this doing the races as well.
You TV broadcasters need to make the interview a TINY BOX and keep the track action BIG.
Go watch ESPN CLASSIC tapes and see how it should be done. :-)
I am enjoying Dave and Ken but must say the LIGHTING IS HORRIBLE and the cameras should be a bit higher...Dave looks bad and Ken could look better. Somebody needs to remember how to flatter the face on tv...Don't just make the girls look good but older guys deserve flattering camera angles and it's ALWAYS ABOUT THE LIGHTING! :-)
Ooh...Tony and Kurt get into it. I hope TONY was not getting out to scream..it looked like HE caused the wreck...and I say that as a Tony fan.
Sigh..thus the season begins, LOL
- February 8, 2008 at 7:07 PM
- stricklinfan82 said...
Much better job on the second wreck of having the cameras zoom out and capture much more of the track.
Now the question is which Fox reporter will be brave enough to ask Tony Stewart for an interview, LOL.
If any of you DVR'ed this Happy Hour be sure to get home and check it out because this has certainly been action-packed to say the least.
- February 8, 2008 at 7:08 PM
- Newracefan said...
Great practice coverage. Lots of cars, appropriate comments, split screens when interviewing drivers while cars on the track. With all these wrecks just in practice the shoot out may be a winner by attrition.
- February 8, 2008 at 7:09 PM
- SophiaZ123 said...
the Tony and Kurt wreck was caught and apparently enough for Jr and Biffle....I still can't believe Tony stopped his car and appeared to be so mad that he wanted to approach Kurt.
And nothing against overweight people, I used to be one, but I said it last year, the more weight Tony gains, the madder he gets. Has anybody noticed this? He is regressing back to his earlier years after appearing to have it together.
My room mate just stuck his head in the room and said the same thing.
Welp, there he goes in the golf cart...Wonder if we will hear from Kurt?
And I say that as somebody who got a Tony Stewart Jacket for my birthday that I wear !!!
- February 8, 2008 at 7:25 PM
- SophiaZ123 said...
Loved Dilner's interview with Yeley..Yeley couldn't suppress a giggle about Tony and Busch's wreck....Yeley said "it's just PRACTICE"
LOL....oh, MY!
This Ken and Dave show is a hoot and a half. I am so glad they brought Ken to be part of this..He is terrific!
(didn't watch nascar back when he was working..but he still should be)
- February 8, 2008 at 7:38 PM
- Newracefan said...
The last Nascar Live was done very well. Lot's of good info and I've gotten use to Dave and Ken so no problems there either.
- February 8, 2008 at 7:59 PM
- SophiaZ123 said...
I know other's hate Despain but I could see a show with these two guys...I love the old stories that stray out of Ken's mouth.
Man is MOST VALUABLE!! SPEED, find him a job. :-)
A weekly show or something.
- February 8, 2008 at 8:07 PM
- Newracefan said...
Did anyone watch Shifting Gears, I forgot to tape it and don't see a replay. That's one good thing sbout Speed they play most things at least twice
- February 8, 2008 at 8:10 PM
- Anonymous said...
@ Newracefan
You're looking on the wrong channel. From Jayski.com:
The air schedule (all times Eastern):
Friday, Feb. 8 - 7-8 p.m. - ESPN2
Friday, Feb. 15 - 6:30-8 p.m. - ESPN2
Saturday, Feb. 16 - 4:30-6 p.m. - ESPN2
Thursday, July 24 - 7-8 p.m. - ESPN
Friday, July 25 - 7-8 p.m. - ESPN
- February 8, 2008 at 8:45 PM
- Anonymous said...
Karen--they know it was on ESPN2, what they were saying was that ESPN/ESPN2 is not replaying the episodes, which makes it different from SPEED as they repeat many shows 2-3 times overnight or the next day.
So they were pointing out how the shows on SPEED often get repeated so if you miss it you have a chance to see it again vs. ESPN/ESPN2 where if you missed it the first time, you're generally SOL.
- February 8, 2008 at 9:09 PM
- Anonymous said...
Shifting Gears wasn't nearly as good as I thought it would be. I was really looking forward to it and I don't think I'll even keep this episode on the DVR. Too glossy and too "produced".
- February 8, 2008 at 10:57 PM
- Anonymous said...
I thought Speeds debut stunk. i actually give the edge to Ryan Burr and Nascar Now today, good interviews, a lot of info and everything was fast paced. Good show!
- February 8, 2008 at 11:18 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
They were..on a laptop in the TV compound.
- February 9, 2008 at 9:52 AM
- Anonymous said...
One thing I noticed was that the guys in the booth were actually watching the track. They were talking and showing cars more towards the front when someone said problem in turn 3, and the cameras weren't even showing turn 3. Way to go broadcast team.
- February 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM


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Tuesday, October 23, 2007
Mike Mulhern Surfaces On "Tradin' Paint"
The Daly Planet once called Tradin' Paint on SPEED "the little series that could." This show was once considered a throw-a-way and has now attracted the attention of a big number of NASCAR fans for one reason. That would be Kyle Petty.
His addition to Tradin' Paint has made this little thirty minute show a must-see for serious fans and media members as well. The format is simple. John Roberts is the host, he throws out the topics and then directs traffic. Alongside of Roberts is Petty, who is the "designated driver" of the series. He appears in each show. Then comes the interesting part.
The third panelist is a random member of the NASCAR "media." This season, the definition of "media member" has been expanded a bit, and with good results. Formerly limited to print and "deadline" media folks, this season there has been a mix of TV announcers and reporters in the Tradin' Paint soup.
On this weekend, a face appeared that was familiar to fans of an earlier show on SPEED called Pit Bulls. This series was an attempt to get multiple media members together and let them discuss a variety of NASCAR topics. First, it was entertaining, and then it was a disaster. Eventually, it was cancelled.
Mike Mulhern, a NASCAR reporter for the Winston-Salem Journal, was an original Pit Bull member. After being introduced by Roberts on this episode of Tradin' Paint, he said to the panel "the last TV show I was on got cancelled because Brian (France) didn't like what I had to say." That is certainly one way to set the tone.
Robert pitched the "top 35" rule as the first topic. Petty, who is right on the "top 35" bubble, talked about his experience this season and then Mulhern stepped right in. Calling the rule completely obsolete, Mulhern got the Petty blood boiling in less than one minute.
"That's bull crap," said Petty. "Its to protect the teams that have run all the races!" Mulhern was not going to be swayed. Petty made the point that NASCAR teams are basically worthless when sold without any type of franchising, and this was NASCAR's only way. The points from the previous year helped the team's value.
Roberts led the now brawling duo into the "Car of Tomorrow Land" which Mulhern promptly called a complete "boondoggle" by NASCAR. Petty responded that it was the media to blame, and told Mulhern where the COT was concerned to "get off it." His point was to protect the sport and give the COT a chance to run its first full season.
The problems at Yates Racing allowed Mulhern to address a bigger issue when he called for Ford to "get their act together on things." Calling attention to Robby Gordon, Mulhern said "the whole Ford Motor Company (NASCAR) operation needs to be re-vamped." Petty himself was on the hot seat for his recent merger rumors, and he put them to rest by saying "we do not marry the first pretty girl that comes along."
Petty expounded that the nature of the current racing business forces the "four team" rule to be pushed in creative ways. Petty draws the line at housing more than four NEXTEL Cup teams under the same roof with one owner, no matter how "creative" the finances or ownership.
The strong words from Petty about Joe Gibbs Racing were interesting. In the on-going GM final year vs. Toyota future debate, Petty's point was that any in-house problems at Gibbs should have been discussed behind closed doors. "GM has the perfect right to be upset with Joe Gibbs," said Petty.
When the subject of impound races arose, Petty and Mulhern quickly agreed that NASCAR had to change the rules for next season. Both suggested either all races or no races being impound races was the only way to go. This one was easy.
John Roberts has been a workhorse for SPEED, and his preparation for Tradin' Paint is not exactly what it should be these days. How can you blame him with the way SPEED has squeezed every possible on-air moment out of him for the last ten months?
It may be time to consider a new host, like a Randy Pemberton or Wendy Venturini. This would allow some separation of Roberts from this one SPEED show, give another SPEED on-air talent a chance, and perhaps result in some more structured questions for the panelists. Roberts is great, just stretched way to thin by the network.
Tradin' Paint has gotten itself back on-track after a little excursion to "owner land" several shows ago, and that is great to see. Now, the only thing left is for the series Producer to pick top-notch personalities as guests for these last handful of shows. November should see this excellent series go out on a high note.
The Daly Planet welcomes comments from readers. Simply click on the COMMENTS button below and follow the instructions to add your opinion. Please read the rules on the right hand side of the main page before posting, and thank for taking the time to stop-by and give us your thoughts.
29 comments:
- Anonymous said...
I was glad to see Mulhern on the show. They finally found someone who can stand their ground when under fire from Petty's verbal assaults!
I think the host needs to do more to control the direction of the discussions on this program. Instead of saying something like "Car of Tomorrow, discuss", I wish they would focus the panelists on one particular aspect of an issue at a time. Petty is prone to "filibustering" the debate if he's given a topic that's too broad. His bloviating ends up consuming most of the allotted time, which limits the ability of the guest panelist to give their input. Even when Petty states his case in a concise manner, just "throwing a topic out there" tends to lead to a disjointed argument where the panelists are talking past each other.
- October 24, 2007 at 9:20 PM
- Anonymous said...
Petty may be a nice guy elsewhere, but on this show, he tends toward being a bully who insists on dominating the topics. No one is right unless they happen to share his opinion.
I wonder if it isn't a role he's requested to perform?
- October 24, 2007 at 9:37 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
I am told that one of the reasons that PIT BULLS was cancelled was that several drivers were upset with its constant negative tone. Mulhern has a decidedly, consistent negative NASCAR agenda and frequently promotes his opinions as news. Throughout this season he has frequently noted the decline in TV ratings for NASCAR races without EVER making any comment that the decline might have anything to do with how TNT or ESPN has handled the coverage.
- October 24, 2007 at 10:18 PM
- slithybill said...
Mike Mulhern was the best paint trader so far this year. Here's who I think they need to book for the remaining 4 shows:
Atlanta - Rick Minter
Texas - David Poole
Phoenix - Ed Hinton
Miami (okay, Homestead, wherever) - Dave Despain. (He should be in town anyway to do Windtunnel live from the track, as well as Inside Nextel Cup if they do what they did last year.)
Those guys ought to be able to trade some paint and hold their own with Kyle Petty.
As far as the host goes, maybe they could rotate the hosting duties between John Roberts, Wendy Venturini, Randy Pemberton and Steve Byrnes. That way Mr. Petty might not get too comfortable from week to week responding to the same host.
- October 24, 2007 at 10:46 PM
- Anonymous said...
The idea of Wendy Venturini in the host chair is excellent. Like Petty, her racing knowledge and enthusiasm is in her genes. She is not just a pretty face. She is a very thorough racing journalist with just the right touch of camera presence. As the program quarterback, I think that she would keep the show on track.
I really do like Roberts and Byrnes, but it would be nice to see another person in the host role on SPEED.
- October 24, 2007 at 11:44 PM
- Shawnna said...
On the whole, I've really enjoyed Tradin' Paint this year. I'm just glad I finally got a DVR so I don't have to worry about finding it. Speed, please give it a home!
I think Wendy Venturni would be great as a host. She was on one of the radio shows (Pit Reporters?) recently and as usual, was knowledgable and professional.
Like John said, the show is for serious fans -- it's nice to have a show that doesn't try to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I've often found myself wishing the show was longer than 30 minutes -- sometimes it feels like they're rushing and not able to give a topic enough time.
Tradin' Paint is one of my Sunday morning standards. I watch it while I'm waiting for Race Day to get far enough in for me to watch and skip the commercials.
- October 25, 2007 at 12:08 AM
- Anonymous said...
The negative slant of Pit Bulls is something that came out of NASCAR's PR department. What actually got them cancelled was they were asking tough questions to fans, drivers, and crew members and the answers that were given were truthful and gave NASCAR a black eye. God forbid we should have people actually say what they want to and feel about what's going on in NASCAR. Brian France had the plug pulled on the program, exercising a clause in the contract that Speed signed with NASCAR stating that NASCAR will pretty much dictate the content of what's being aired for public consumption.
- October 25, 2007 at 1:41 AM
- wickedj said...
slithybill - you might get Kyle to repeat his words from Sonoma if Poole gets on this show LOL
i would seriously PAY to see Pit Bulls revived away from NASCARs hands...tape the show in a studio and since theres no real network you could air it on that isnt related to Fox/NBC/ABC put it on the internet
*demands profits from this show when my idea works*
- October 25, 2007 at 2:12 AM
- Anonymous said...
Missed the show again because SPEED refuses to give it a permanent time slot ... And I don't have a DVR that'll find the show for me ... SPEED needs to air it more than one or two times (same with Nascar Performance) ... How about on Sunday evenings after Wind Tunnel, instead of the bovine excrement that is in that time slot now ??
I'm surprised TPTB let Mulhern back on a Nascar show ... Remember - he's the one that got called on the carpet by Nextel for reporting alleged changes that Nextel wanted Nascar to make AND this was before Nextel's contract started ...
Wind Tunnel won't be live from Homestead ... Dave flies from his home in the Atlanta area to the Charlotte studios for WT & INC ... The last two years, he's flown to Miami for his end of the season Nascar show, then back to Charlotte for WT and then back to Miami for INC ...
- October 25, 2007 at 4:18 AM
- Anonymous said...
It was great to see Mike Mulhern on Trading Paint. 'es one of the few who isn't afraid to say what he thinks...positive or negative. Maybe, if Nasca weren't so determined to control everything that is said or written about the sport, they wouldn't be facing the downturn in ratings and attendence for the past 2 or 3 years. Without free discussions about the state of the sport, things won't stay healthy.
- October 25, 2007 at 6:01 AM
- John B said...
I stopped watching Tradin Paint after the second time Kyle Petty was on. He is a pompous ass. Of course he is in support of the top 35 otherwise he would be on the trailer where he belongs. If his name wasn't Petty the only racing he would be able to do is in the 4 cylinder division at his local track. He is nothing other than a walking advertisment for the camp. If they get a real racecar driver I will come back and watch.
- October 25, 2007 at 6:26 AM
- ezed said...
You're right. Give Wendy Venturini her own show.
- October 25, 2007 at 8:13 AM
- Anonymous said...
Wendy V? Please! She has a likable personality and she is cute, but she still seems uncomfortable on air in a live situation. She is at her best in those edited controlled interviews she does for the pre race show.
- October 25, 2007 at 9:48 AM
- Lisa Hogan said...
I'm a little confused with the negatives about John Roberts in this column. Recently, he was criticized for joining into a debate and now he's stretched too thin and not prepared. Does John even pick the questions for the show or does the producer? I think John does a good job on this show and any on-camera appearances. I'm disappointed that he is no longer hosting all of the Nascar Live shows.
JD, me thinks thou art a bit biased. You seem to want Wendy to be on all of the SPEED shows. I like Wendy on Race Day; but, that is enough. I agree with the poster that said Wendy is best on taped interviews.
Mulhern is a member of the "grumpy brigade". He thinks that nothing is right with NASCAR. If you disagree, then NASCAR won't let you tell the truth. He is still pouting about Pit Bulls going off the air. The never-ending debate: If you liked the show, NASCAR took it off the air because they couldn't stand the truth. If you disliked the show, it was a terrible show and low ratings took it off the air. It is way past time that he moved on. If everything is so terrible in NASCAR land, then he should start earning his living covering the ESPN poker marathons.
- October 25, 2007 at 10:36 AM
- Anonymous said...
Must say I agree with Lisa Hogan. I watch tradin' paint regularly and I've never seen John Roberts seem unprepared. On there or on any show.
But also I like Wendy V. and IMO she does well in off the cuff live situations.
- October 25, 2007 at 10:51 AM
- Richard in N.C. said...
Mulhern is more than grumpy about NASCAR, the organization - he has a grudge and, as a result, a distinct negative bias against NASCAR. He can be entertaining, but his writing has a consistent anti-NASCAR slant. For instance, according to Mulhern the problem with the declining TV ratings is all the fault of NASCAR and the COT- and not at all related to the substandard quality of the coverage provided by TNT and ESPN.
- October 25, 2007 at 2:08 PM
- darbar said...
Tradin' Paint has become my favorite racing show on TV. They're not afraid to take on the tougher subjects. Mulhern was great and didn't shirk from the sometimes overpowering beliefs of Kyle Petty. I like John Roberts as host, but if his overuse on so many shows causes problems, I would prefer to see someone like Larry Mc or Steve Byrnes hosting. It might just be me, but I have a hard time watching Randy Pemberton on any Speed show. I don't know if he's being misused by Speed by doing his reports from the garage area or what, but he just doesn't come off as comfortable or as polished as others---his questions come off as sounding nervous, halting or disjointed and very unprepared. Wendy V is the consumate professional and the "strongest" woman in sports reporting, but I'm not sure a woman, no matter how great, would be welcome in a situation such as
Tradin' Paint. As I said earlier, Kyle Petty can be overpowering in his beliefs and would probably need a very strong personality to keep things in line.
- October 25, 2007 at 2:28 PM
- Anonymous said...
What TP needs in the way of a host is someone who isn't afraid to tell Petty to shut up once in a while, he is so pro nascar he stinks, never will you hear him say anything against nascar.
- October 25, 2007 at 4:18 PM
- Anonymous said...
I'm a trading paint fan...I liked Pit Bull as well....having Mulhern on added some spice...I look forward to more...
- October 25, 2007 at 5:22 PM
- Anonymous said...
I know this is entirely off-topic but the editor has not opened any new thread. This is just more of the classy attitude on motorsports from the world leader in sports! From ESPN.com, filed under "page 2-30 second spots" by David Fleming, 10/25/07:"Recently down here in North Carolina, Bruton Smith, the owner of Lowe's Motor Speedway, threatened (read: bluffed, badly) to pack up his 2,000 acre eyesore and leave town if he wasn't granted permission to build a drag strip next to his track. But before I could even offer up my buddy Jak's truck to help move LMS out of town, the so-called city leaders practically piddled themselves and relented. Good for them. I mean, what's a world-class banking town like Charlotte without a noisy, dirty, smoke-spewing, traffic-snarling drag-racing strip?"
- October 25, 2007 at 5:34 PM
- Lisa Hogan said...
anon 5:34
Perhaps he was told that he could get his article "click count" up if he wrote about NASCAR.
Seems like he didn't really grasp the concept. :)
- October 25, 2007 at 5:52 PM
- dave said...
I like the show but Mulhern has always been grumpy along with Hinton and Miller . They are always gthat way they hate nascar ! They need to go away!!1
- October 25, 2007 at 5:56 PM
- SophiaZ123 said...
Mark me as another one that does not like Pemberton.
He does not seem a natural fit for tv. I guessed he got the gig due to being related to the big shot Pemberton with NASCAR?
Either way, I am glad somebody else posted the same feelings I had about the guy. Just not smooth on tv AT ALL.
I am also weary of HUNTING DOWN TP.
They need to give it a PERMANENT HOME and yes, after INC would be good and then they could run that other good half hour show I forget to watch...that they promoted during the end of INC. Survival of the Fastest?
If SPEED MANAGEMENT HAD ANY BRAINS, they would wrap these shows around INC and or repeat VL as well.
Hard to get ratings for a show when the network plays Timeslot Roulette!
- October 25, 2007 at 6:50 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
Robin Miller would be great on Tradin' Paint. He's humorous, knowledgeable,honest, and credible.
- October 25, 2007 at 9:49 PM
- Andy Pandy said...
Robin Miller might be great on Tradin' Paint if he actually liked NASCAR.
- October 25, 2007 at 10:47 PM
- Anonymous said...
Mulhern was a breath of fresh air that stirred the Petty pot initially, which was likely his intent. Then he settled in for some harmonious discussion on other topics.
Personally, I'd like to see Monte Dutton get a shot on Tradin' Paint.
- October 25, 2007 at 11:38 PM
- toomuchcountry said...
I'll 2nd Monte Dutton. And let me log a nomination for Matt McLaughlin if you really want to stir the pot.
- October 25, 2007 at 11:50 PM
- Thomas said...
I was the media guest on TP at Charlotte, and lemme tell ya, John Roberts is razor sharp. He handles all of the lead-ins to questions and "outs" to commercials flawlessly, and I don't say this because we're friends - the day we taped the show was the first time we'd actually met. The producers challenge the media guest to engage (or interrupt, however you wanna put it) Kyle when he's "filibustering." As for the questions, they're provided to all three folks you see on-screen, though John didn't read them verbatim. He took the idea and rolled with it to set up the off-the-cuff answers by Kyle and me. There's zero rehearsal on TP. They hook you up to the mic headset, make sure you can hear the producer in the IFB, and off you go. Just so ya know how it works ...
Thomas Pope / The Fayetteville (N.C.) Observer
- October 26, 2007 at 12:20 PM
- Rick said...
thanks for your post. It is always good to hear from someone in the media on this site, and to make themselves known as such.
- October 27, 2007 at 8:24 AM


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Carrie Horton is a freelance writer and project manager based in Nashville, Tenn. She graduated from Concordia University in Portland, Ore., with a degree in English and has been writing and listening to music for as long as she can remember. After more than five years in the non-profit world, she made the leap into full-time freelance writing and hasn't looked back. When she's not out looking for adventure, you can probably find her exploring nature or at a neighborhood coffee shop reading a good book or talking with friends.
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Mirepoix Bodice
I am still waiting on the yarn for this one: Louet Gems, one of my all-time faves. This sweater is appealing for so many reasons. I love being able to do a pattern out of the exact yarn the pattern is written for, the fair isle action on the bodice is just the right amount for my tastes, and the colors are stupendous. PLUS there is a kal, which always sweetens the deal with added enticement. I won't be starting this one until October, so hopefully I'll be casting on for this in a month or so with a clear conscience. This is far and away the Fall 07 Knit that I am the most excited about!


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It was time to do some file clean up and conflict resolution within the file that I have created for this project.
In my effort to determine relationships, I recorded relationships and households from Census Records. Any other record that showed relationships I recorded it one place for each person. It is in the Note field for the Persons "preferred" name. This note field is for my use only.
I have privately published this file on Ancestry and an Ancestry Member Tree and it is not sync'ed with FTM2012. Very useful version of the program. But, that's not the topic at hand. I bring it up, because these notes are not part of the AMT. Only in the file on my PC.
I have also been tracking Residence Facts, as found in Census Records in an EXCEL spreadsheet. This was done so that I was able to keep trick of who I had and had not found in Census Records. The way it was recorded, I am able to put households together, and to point out who came into the household or who left over time.
These two tools, were able to point very clearly who were the same person, but recorded differently over time. I had identified a number of "duplicate" individuals in my file and have now eliminated them, actually merged duplicate individuals. This lets me keep all of the data from the person who was being merged into another persons record. No data or citation information was lost.
Just to make sure of a couple of these merges, I went back to the Census Record to make sure that I had recorded the information correctly. Within my genealogy program, I have those images already, but in two cases I went back to the image on Ancestry. In looking at the actual Census Record, it appeared that the Index / name was recorded incorrectly. I did submit suggested changes to Ancestry.
For example: Nannie H vs Annie H. Looking at the image, it could have been Nannie or Annie. The young lady's name was Ann H.
Within my program, there are a list of Tasks (To-Do Lists) that I created as I went along. Cleared a number of them during this process.
There is also a Data Error Report, that is customizable, so that I can see the types of errors that are obvious, that I may not have picked up, like a Marriage after a Death.
I have not taken the Data Error Report and added a number of items to the To-Do List. I find that easier to manage, then trying to work off of the Data Error Report. Yes, my To-Do list got shorter, but it is now longer again, but I can now focus on those Data Errors that need to be addressed now.
Lesson Learned: Use Tools within your Genealogy Program AND other software that you are comfortable with, to help accomplish the Goal. The 2nd Life Study Group talked a lot about how EXCEL or other spreadsheets helped.


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A word in the Fuegian language of Tierra del Fuego in extreme southern South America (in both Chile and Argentina). Holds the Guinness Book of World Records record for "most succinct word".
The word mamihlapinatapei means "a look shared by two people with each wishing that the other will initiate something that neither one wants to start"
by LudwigVan October 01, 2004
(Yagan, an indigenous language of Tierra del Fuego): The wordless yet meaningful look shared by two people who desire to initiate something, but are both reluctant to start.
Neither of you has mustered the courage to make a move, yet. Hands haven't been placed on knees; you've not kissed. But you've both conveyed enough to know that it will happen soon… very soon, you've got mamihlapinatapei!
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There were six snowmobile-related deaths in
The usual causes of snowmobile accidents are operator inexperience, driving under the influence of alcohol and drugs, and high speeds.
"Snowmobiles can travel as fast, or faster, than an automobile, and require every bit as much or more experience to operate," said Capt. Mike Hammer,
enforcement education program coordinator. The speed limit for all snowmobile
trails and public lands and waters is 50 miles per hour.
"Snowmobiles can travel as fast, or faster, than an automobile, and require every bit as much or more experience to operate," said Capt. Mike Hammer,
Hammer noted that today's sleds can easily do 70, if not 100, miles per hour. Unfortunately, they don't stop like a vehicle or offer the same protection.
"Speed kills and that is a fact with snowmobiles," said Hammer.
Going too fast can also cause snowmobile drivers to "overdrive" their snowmobile's headlight. Even at 30 miles per hour, it can take a much longer distance to stop on ice than the headlight shines. Many fatal snowmobile through-the-ice accidents occur because the machine was traveling too fast for the operator to stop when the headlamp finally illuminated the hole in the ice.
Snowmobilers also need to be alert on all trails. They might not realize trails go over ponds or lakes where the ice might not be formed yet.
Many accidents also happen when snowmobiles collide with fixed objects such as trees, fences, stumps, rocks, logs and culverts. Often these objects are partially or completely hidden by snow. Snowmobilers sometimes hit one of these before they see it.
"Always be on the lookout for hidden wires, especially in areas that may have been farmed at one time or another," Hammer said. "Too many accidents have been caused by running into wires in fields, guide wires next to poles and roads, barbed wire and chains used as road closures. Particularly in unfamiliar areas, you must drive at a speed which will allow you to stop quickly."
By taking a snowmobile safety course, students learn about the machine, laws, safe operation, ethics of the sport and how to avoid the most common causes of snowmobile accidents, Hammer said.
To obtain the Snowmobile Safety Training CD, or for general information, call 651-296-6157, or toll-free 888-646-6367, 800-366-8917 or email email@example.com.
More than 1,800 volunteer instructors teach
snowmobile safety courses across the state. For more information on the dates
and locations of these courses, visit the DNR
website: www.mndnr.gov
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And then I had kids.
The kids were actually pretty good while we were there. The thing is - even if they aren't being "bad", it's still kinda crazy when they're all together in the same little room.
I mean, Brooklyn was whining, "I wan' a toothbrush! I wan' toothbrush!"
Meanwhile Clay was asking, "Is it mine turn? What's he doing? Is that mint flavor? Is he brushing his teeth? What is that? Why is Jackson making faces? Does that taste bad?"
Lexi was lining up her Littlest Pet Shop toys and telling me, "This is Lola and this one is Cheeky and this is Kiki and this is Lala and this one is Kuku and the pony is Keeku and this dog is Fluffy..."
Jackson was trying to talk while the dentist was cleaning his teeth. "Mo ca I go pay wi Ti-ee whe we're duh?
Then there was Savannah saying, "Mooom, Clayton is trying to take the fake teeth out of the kangaroo."
And Austin was just laughing like a hyena because, well who knows why he was laughing. He's a strange kid.
So no one was being bad, per se, but when you combine that much activity and noise, it can seem like they're all being rotten and crazy. There was a time when my dentist would have taken the drill to his ear drums. Thankfully he now has a child of his own and has learned to tune out that kind of cacophony.
My dentist has a treasure chest filled with toys for kids to
"Mom, can I get a toy?"
"Sure Jackson, knock yourself out."
"Mom, these toys are all babyish."
"No kidding."
"They're aren't good toys in there."
"Ummm, that's because they're not really for 10 year olds!"
Then the dentist piped up with, "What, do you think there should be Gameboys in there?"
"Yeah!" Jackson replied excitedly, half expecting the dentist to pull out a Gameboy for him.
So everyone has clean teeth and they're set for another 6 months. And Brooklyn got a new toothbrush so she's happy as can be since toothbrushes are way better than any toy on the market.
Then I took Jackson to the doctor to have his cast taken off. His arm wasn't smelly and gross at all. I love waterproof casts! He just needs to wear a brace for another 3 weeks.
Tonight at dinner, Austin decided to speak in third person. Actually, it was more like he was giving us a running narrative of the evenings activities.
ME: Savannah's last regular season softball game is tomorrow.
AUSTIN: And I have three more games, Austin said happily.
ME: Austin said happily???
AUSTIN: Yes, Austin agreed.
ME: Why are you talking like that?
AUSTIN: Talking like what? Austin asked.
ME: Ugh. Do you want some more spaghetti?
AUSTIN: No, I'm full said Austin.
SAVANNAH: Austin you're a dork.
AUSTIN: And I'm also stupid, Austin replied.
ME: Seriously, what's with the narration?
AUSTIN: I have no idea what you're talking about, Austin said, confused.
ME: I have the weirdest kids.


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Philippe Montanier's men successfully dispatched of Valladolid to jump above Malaga and Valencia in La Liga as Atletico Madrid got back to winning ways against Osasuna
Deportivo were given a slight boost in their battle against relegation on Friday as they came out 3-1 winners over fellow strugglers Celta Vigo at the Riazor.
The hosts were on a nine-match winless run before the clash, but Riki netted early doors to give his side the vital opening goal. The 32-year-old got on the end of a Juan Carlos Valeron cross to cushion the ball on his thigh before acrobatically sending a volley into the corner.
Celta were facing an uphill battle just before the half-hour mark as star striker, Iago Aspas, was given his marching orders for a poor challenge on Carlos Marchena.
Depor extended their lead halfway through the second period when the ball broke to Silvio 30 yards out, and the Atletico Madrid loanee sent a fantastic half-volley into the top right corner.
Substitute, Diogo Salomao, made it three 12 minutes from time when he rounded Javi Varas before slotting home.
Park Chu-Young earned a close-range consolation two minutes later, but Deportivo already had the points in the bag.
Real Sociedad moved into the fourth Champions League place in La Liga with a comprehensive 4-1 victory over Real Valladolid on Saturday.
Txuri-urdin started the match brightly, but it wasn't until just after the half-hour mark that they edged ahead. Mikel Gonzalez cushioned the ball with a header before laying the ball into the path of Antoine Griezmann, who lashed a strike into the bottom corner from the right-hand side of the box.
Imanol Agirretxe doubled the lead six minutes later when he took an assured touch inside the area before expertly curling the ball into the top corner.
Griezmann then took the game beyond the visitors just before the break in spectacular fashion. The Frenchman latched onto a long ball over the top of the Valladolid defence and, in one motion, took the ball out of the air and fired a sensational volley past Dani Hernandez.
The hosts showed no signs of letting up after the break, and added to their tally three minutes after half time. A superb interchange between Xabi Prieto, Griezmann and Carlos Vela saw the ball eventually come back to the Spaniard, who slotted home from close range.
Javi Guerra clawed a goal back in the latter stages for Valladolid, but the damage was well and truly done in the first period.
An early strike from Borja Fernandez gave Getafe a narrow 1-0 victory over Athletic Bilbao at Coliseum Alfonso Perez in the Spanish Primera Division.
The Madrid-based side came flying out of the blocks, and came within inches of opening the scoring after just two minutes when Sergio Escudero was denied when his half-volley crashed off the top of the crossbar.
However, they did eventually register a goal in the seventh minute. Pedro Leon curled a corner kick into the area and Borja opened up his foot to send a left-footed volley high into the net.
Aritz Aduriz had a trio of chances to equalise for his side, but none came close to troubling Miguel Moya.
In the end, Getafe saw out the win relatively comfortably.
Valencia climbed above Real Betis in La Liga as los Che comfortably defeated Pepe Mel's men 3-0 at Mestalla.
The visitors were on a three-match unbeaten run in the league, but things took a turn for the worst for them in this match when Antonio Amaya saw red for a challenge on Roberto Soldado inside the box. The Valencia captain dusted himself off to step up and dispatch the penalty.
Betis' best opportunities came from set-pieces, and Benat came closest to scoring for his side when his free kick was expertly saved by Diego Alves.
Valencia marched on, though, and doubled their lead five minutes from time when Sergio Canales' teasing cross into the box was turned into the net by Betis defender, Paulao.
Jonas rounded off the win in stoppage-time when he curled into the corner following Tino Costa's cross.
Malaga suffered from a Champions League hangover on Sunday when they eventually slumped to a 2-0 defeat at home to Espanyol.
Manuel Pellegrini's men successfully progressed to the quarter-finals of Europe's elite competition on Wednesday, but the tense affair looked to have took it's toll as they welcomed the Barcelona-based side to La Rosaleda.
The first half wasn't filled with goalscoring chances, and the opening goal didn't come until the second period. Willy Caballero, who has arguably been the finest goalkeeper in La Liga this season, failed to hold on to a Joan Verdu corner kick, allowing Diego Colotto to smash home.
Malaga had the majority of the possession in the match, but it was Espanyol who proved to be more clinical in front of goal.
Mubarak Wakaso burst down the left-hand side and curled a cross to the front post, where Sergio Garcia got in front of his marker to turn the ball into the top corner, ensuring the visitors took all three points.
Sevilla moved up to 10th place in La Liga with a convincing 4-0 win over Real Zaragoza at the Ramon Sanchez Pizjuan.
Los Rojiblancos dominated from the get-go, and took the lead just before the half-hour mark. Ivan Rakitic sent in a free kick and Alvaro Negredo cleverly flicked the ball into the path of Coke Andujar, who finished into the net.
Zaragoza's plan was thrown into further turmoil when Stefan Babovic was shown a second yellow card for pulling the shirt of Geoffrey Kondogbia, and they were reduced to 10-men.
Unai Emery's men prospered from their man advantage, and doubled their lead shortly after the break when the ball broke to Coke, and the full-back rifled into the far corner from 25 yards out.
The match was took beyond the visitors 10 minutes later when a pacey counterattack saw Jesus Navas drive down the right-hand side and placed the ball inside to Jose Antonio Reyes, and the former Arsenal man placed the ball perfectly into the bottom left corner.
Negredo was not going to be left out of the act, however, and slid a shot home from a Reyes pass to complete a superb win for Sevilla.
Atletico Madrid moved back to within a point of Real Madrid in the Spanish Primera Division thanks to a 2-0 victory over Osasuna, and a double from Diego Costa.
The first 30 minutes of the match was a midfield battle with neither side able to pose a substantial threat to the opposition goal, but Diego Simeone's men eventually took the lead through a superb counterattack.
An Osasuna attack broke down and Gabi took advantage to gallop forward and slide a pass through to Koke, who homed in on goal before squaring to Costa, who needed two attempts at goal but eventually headed into the corner.
The Brazilian did his best to wind up the home crowd, and he risked their wrath three minuets after the restart when he got on the end of Koke's free kick to stab home from close range.
Los Colchoneros lost some tempo and intensity after Costa went off with an injury, but Osasuna never posed enough danger to threaten the win for the visitors.
Granada further distanced themselves from the relegation zone with a point earned in a 1-1 draw with Levante on Sunday evening.
Both sides exchanged blows in the opening stages, but neither Tono or Gustavo Munua was made to work particularly hard to protect their respective goals.
The breakthrough eventually came 32 minutes in when Pedro Lopez handled inside the area and Guilherme Siqueira converted the subsequent penalty kick.
However, Levante pegged the hosts back four minutes into the second half when Vicente Iborra stole possession on the right-hand side before curling the ball to the front post, and Robert Acquafresca was on hand to twist his body to power a half-volley into the far corner.
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For an academic contest pitting young spellers against the dictionary, the Scripps National Spelling Bee has taken on the intensity of the fiercest athletic events. Feeling the warmth of television lights — not to mention nerves and distractions — all while sports commentators are analyzing your "style" and approach is something only a select club of young word-nerdy Americans gets to experience. How does that early experience affect these mostly middle-school-aged kids later in life?
Lasting Memories
The pressure of having to spell onstage before other competitors, nervous parents and a wider audience during those awkward formative years still sends a chill up the spine of Karla Miller, who competed in the national bees of 1984, 1985 and 1986. Her best finish was 31st, when she went out on the word "dashiki."
"It was a very intense experience. I had never been through something like that," Miller says. "You're on a stage in front of people, and now you're on TV and the Twitterati, and all these people watching you, waiting for you to make a mistake." Even today, Miller gets too anxious to watch the bee on television. She says she'll never forget the sound of getting a word wrong: the "ding" of a bell.
"I can't handle it," she says. "When I see it on the news, I see the clips and have to turn away because it stresses me out too much."
It's been nearly 30 years since Miller's first bee, and the stakes have only gotten higher. Cash and prizes total more than $60,000. ESPN is broadcasting not just the final rounds but the semifinals on its ESPN 2 and ESPN 3 channels.
Successful Professionals
She has a little residual spelling stress, but Miller, who today is a writer and editor, says on balance, her early experiences were positive. They helped her with confidence, poise and putting her on track to a career involving language.
Former spellers tend to lead successful professional lives, says James Maguire, who tracked years of national spellers for his book, American Bee: The National Spelling Bee and the Culture of Word Nerds. "Whatever the menu of things they're going to do, that skill of single-minded focus is going to help them. Not only can they do that — they can do it under pressure."
Maguire says almost all the former spelling bee kids wind up winning "at life," though not necessarily with careers working with words. More than half a dozen former champs from the past two decades excelled in math and science and went on to become physicians.
Other Brainy Pursuits
Srinivas Ayyagari, 32, was 14 years old when he finished third — for the second time — in the national bee of 1994. That was the first year ESPN covered it.
"The lights were incredibly bright and that sort of changed the dynamic about it," Ayyagari says. "Seeing someone from ESPN commenting on your style and strategy was bizarre and weird. But it's the closest I'll ever come to being an athlete."
Not content to stop with just one brainy pursuit, Ayyagari went on to Harvard for college, Penn for law school and Jeopardy! for a $27,400 win. "This will be a better highlight for you," Alex Trebek told Ayyagari after he won.
Other former spelling champs have also gone on to conquer quiz games and shows. Ned Andrews, the 1994 champ who wrote a book of spelling bee advice called The Champion's Guide to Success in Spelling Bees, still loves a mental challenge. When NPR contacted him to discuss his bee experience, he revealed he's "a longtime regular entrant" in the Weekend Edition Sunday puzzle. "Big surprise, I know," he writes.
Today, Ayyagari is searching for full-time work in Washington, D.C. It's one of the most competitive markets for lawyers, but because of his early experiences, he says he's used to tough competition.
"Being a lawyer elsewhere could be a smoother experience, but there's something there that got lit at a very young age about pushing myself against the best and feeling like I had a reason to do that," Ayyagari says.
Lessons About Effort And Luck
Two decades since his peak spelling years, Ayyagari says he's proud of the effort he put into his early successes.
"There are going to be factors that you can't account for," he says. "Whether it's words you don't know or something else. You have to just try your best and the factors you can't account for are something you're going to have to face as best you can. That effort is something that I will always stand behind."
1988 champion Raga Ramachandran told a television interviewer after she won at age 13 that "whatever I do, I want to be the foremost in it." Her teenage prediction was spot-on. Today, she's a surgical pathologist at the University of California, San Francisco. She remembers every detail of her spelling bee victory for correctly spelling the word "elegiacal." But 25 years later, the champ says her day-to-day life isn't different because of her big win.
"I think some potential spellers and their families may have this idea that winning the national spelling bee is an automatic passport to success, and I really don't think that's true," said Ramachandran. In spelling and in life, "I know a lot of it is luck of the draw. ... If I had gotten a different word, if I had been spelling in a slightly different order, I might very well not have won."
"There are probably 30 or 40 kids who go to bee who have a very realistic chance of winning and I think for them, it really is heartbreaking to not win," Maguire says. "But for all of them to go there and to compete is a good experience, it's a character-building experience."
Regardless of where they placed, the former spellers say they came away with performance poise, an appreciation of hard work and a love of language. Miller is still working with words today — writing the weekly work advice column for The Washington Post Magazine. And every so often, she's reminded of her days as a competitive speller.
"To this day when I hear that bell I get that frisson — that little shiver. When I hear that bell I'm thinking, oh no, I failed at something. And then I realize, no, somebody's order has come up."
Decades later, they've each won a valuable prize — perspective.
From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I'm Melissa Block.
And I'm Robert Siegel. This week, the stakes are high for some of the best competitive spellers as they take part in the Scripts National Spelling Bee. ESPN broadcasts the contest live with tens of thousands of dollars in cash and prizes and millions of people tuning in. For the students in the competition, it's an experience they won't forget. NPR's Elise Hu tracked down some former top spellers and she sent this report.
ELISE HU, BYLINE: They come from all over the country.
KARLA MILLER: And I was just this girl living on a farm. My only coach was my mom.
HU: And like Karla Miller, they come prepared.
MILLER: We spent hours drilling on words. It was just the two of us and the spelling bee book and a huge dictionary.
HU: The kids who qualify for the national bee are as young as six, but no older than 14. Karla Miller was 11 in 1984 when she first made it to nationals, a big enough deal to get a profile on the local news.
HU: The others didn't do too terribly, out-spelling Karla in the fourth round.
MILLER: And if you spelled your word incorrectly, there would be this moment of silence and then you'd hear ding and then it was like this mile-long walk to get to the end of the stage.
HU: Now, nearly three decades later, Karla's back inside the old ballroom of Washington's Capitol Hilton for the first time since she last competed.
MILLER: I remember the echo, that big, cavernous echo.
HU: The word she missed that year, matriculate.
MILLER: I can spell it now, M-A-T-R-I-C-U-L-A-T-E.
HU: In the same cavernous ballroom in 1988, then 13-year-old Raga Ramachandran found herself among the last two spellers standing. It's been 25 years, but she remembers every detail.
RAGA RAMACHANDRAN: So I spelled (unintelligible) correctly, but it's like tennis where you have to then win an additional point in order to win the whole thing. Then, the pronouncer, he gave me the word elegiacal.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Elegiacal. Elegiacal.
RAMACHANDRAN: I would see the word in my mind. Elegiacal. And then I would spell it. E-L-E-G-I-A-C-A-L. Elegiacal. It was just pandemonium. They have this beautiful trophy that's ready to go and I got to hoist this loving cup trophy. It's just so exciting. I'm getting shivers thinking about it.
HU: It's a moment hundreds of national qualifiers dream of. Srinivas Ayyagari, like many top spellers, credits his family for his early success, especially his mom.
SRINIVAS AYYAGARI: We worked together. We were definitely like a team because I think, you know, it's true of a lot of immigrant children, you know, the parents bring them along, but they also bring along the parents in America, too.
HU: Ayyagari never got to hoist the winner's trophy, but he came so close, finishing in third place at nationals twice, once in 1992, again in 1994.
AYYAGARI: That was first year ESPN covered it and the lights were incredibly bright and it sort of changed the dynamic up there in terms of just atmosphere.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN #2: Yes, the head goes down and he was searching when he asked for pelican and it was so...
AYYAGARI: And seeing, like, somebody from ESPN commenting on your style and strategy was bizarre and weird, so it's the closest I'll ever get to being, you know, an athlete.
HU: Not content to stop with just one brainy pursuit, Ayyagari went on to Harvard for college, Penn for law school and Jeopardy for the win.
HU: He's taken contract jobs on and off for the last year, but today, Ayyagari is searching for full-time work in Washington. It's one of the most competitive markets for lawyers. But because of his early experiences, he's used to the tough competition.
AYYAGARI: There's something there that got lit at a very young age about pushing myself against the best and feeling like I had a reason to do that.
HU: The 1988 champ, Ramachandran, is a pathologist at UC San Francisco. More than two decades since spelling on stage, she says the bee taught important lessons about effort and luck.
RAMACHANDRAN: If I had gotten a different word, if I had been spelling in a slightly different order, I might very well not have won.
HU: Regardless of where they placed, the former spellers say they came away with performance poise and appreciation of hard work and a love of language. Karla Miller is still working with words today, writing the weekly work advice column for the Washington Post magazine. And every so often, she's reminded of her days as a competitive speller.
MILLER: To this day when I hear that bell, again, I get that little frisson, the little shiver, when I hear that bell and thinking, oh, I failed at something. And then I realize, no, somebody's order has come up.
HU: Decades later, they've each won a valuable prize, perspective. Elise Hu, NPR News, Washington. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.


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I have been wondering for a long time, is the little girl from the St. Jude children's research thing Brooklyn?
Yep, that's Brooklyn on her first birthday.
Wow Austin is one smart cookie. Is he planning to be an engineer or an artist or architect or something similar when he's older? With that attention to detail at age 4-5 he will go a long way!
I just asked him, "What are you planning on being when you grow up?" He answered, "A person."
If only he could use his genius for good not evil...
I would like to post a link to your blog on my own, under a blogs that I am reading section, on blogger. Copying this link never works though. Is there a secret I don't know about?
I have no idea, but several people have told me this. Maybe try using mom2my6pack.com instead of mom2my6pack.blogspot.com?
And what the heck is Sonic? did I miss a post? I'm from Canada, so I've never heard of it.
It's a fast food restaurant where you can pull your car up, order, and pay for your meal and then waiters on skates bring your food out to you. They have an AWESOME blackberry Sprite too!
I had an SSO question for you but by the time the comment window popped up, I'd forgotten it already. Do you suffer from Mommy Brain like I do?
I'm sorry. What was the question?
Ice cream of the month, huh? How is it? Both my husband's and dad's birthdays are in the next month plus, and I have no clue what to get either!
It's ridiculously expensive, but if you've got someone who doesn't want or need anything and you can't think of any ideas, it's kinda neat.
......so did you play miniture golf?
No, we still haven't gone! Something has come up or the weather has been bad every day. I still owe them 18 holes! This week....
I noticed underneath Brooklyn's crying, that you were listening to the soundtrack from "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat" (could they have come up with a longer name?!) It's a favorite of our family's but it got me to wondering: What audio selections do you offer in the car and, most importantly, who gets to pick?
My car - I pick. And if the kids complain, I put on opera. They love that.
I'm totally digging the fact that Brooklyn stopped crying as soon as "Go, Go, Go Joseph" came on. I wonder, does she always do that, or was this time just a fluke? :)
It was a fluke, but she used to stop crying EVERY TIME she heard THIS SONG when she was a baby.
Hi Dawn, What kind of Van did you buy.
I wondered if you had ever considered with the success of your blog/book if someone will offer you a reality series and if you would be willing to do that?
I've never really thought about it, but I don't think I'd be interested in having America invade my home on a weekly basis like that.
Wow! I thought I was the only one that had to deal with tantrums like that!! I thought my 2 1/2 year old son was just going to be a bad child! You have given me hope that maybe it IS just a phase...do you have any suggestions??
Duct tape over his mouth and/or ear plugs for you.
Does Brooklyn normally freak out... scream so nicely, every time you put her in the car seat?
Oh no.
It's not exclusive to car seats.
If you could go anywhere in the world on your next vacation where would you go?
P.S. if you had all the money in the world.
There are too many places I'd love to see, so I guess if money wasn't an option, I'd take a trip around the world.
So does that mean you do about 9 to 10 loads of laundry a week?
Double that.
I was wondering - do you yell a lot?
And how did the marshmallows taste? I watch Alton Brown, and I've seen his marshmallow tutorial, and I cook a LOT and I'm still not willing to try out his theory that marshmallows don't have to come from a bag!
They were actually pretty good. But I've never found anything wrong with the kind that come in a bag either.
Question: Are you like me and feel GUILTY when you ask people to watch your kids? I HATE IT! I would rather drag them to the store, tantrums and all, than inconvenience someone else with MY children. I know that is silly but it's the way my brain works!
YES! Joe and I went out for our anniversary yesterday. I hate asking anyone to watch the kids. That's why we end up going out once every 2 years. It's pathetic. We had dinner and then called home to ask permission to extend our curfew so we could go see a movie.
Glad no one was hurt. I have to ask, it looks like hubby's burb is a 3/4 ton. I have one just like it but it is a rare diesel model. Is joe's burb a diesel too?
Ummm, it's white.
Do you wear your hair up or down?
I used to be the queen of the ponytail (very classy, I know), but I recently got my hair cut short. :(
Oh my good gravy, thank goodness no-one was hurt! How about his truck? Was it dented/scratched? Hopefully it's ok?
The truck was just dented a little when the branch fell on it, but more importantly, what does "good gravy" mean and where did you come up with that saying? LOL! You sound like my friend Janie!
just a stupid question, maybe SSO material. where do you rent your movies from?
the library or Blockbuster and now I remember why. Joe and I went out to the movies last night and saw Indiana Jones. It cost us $20! TWENTY DOLLARS!!! Just for the two of us!
Ummm Dawn, should I ask why you continue to go camping when someone is very politely and subtlely telling you not to?
I'm gathering material for my third book.
So my question is, where are all six kids if you were driving a truck?!? Tell me they weren't in the camper. Is that legal?!? Perhaps you have an RV?A truck - Suburban that seats 9. Although letting the kids bounce around in the camper sounds like a wonderful idea for next time!
Peoria, Peoria... Seems like there was some tv show or movie that took place in Peoria? Do you know what that was?
Children of the Corn?
Clearly it's been a while since I've been camping, but how, while camping, do you have internet access to tell us these wonderful stories??
I don't know. A lot of campgrounds now offer WiFi. We just stayed at a Jellystone that had internet access.
What consequences and rewards do you use to guide your children's behavior? Timeouts, chores, restitution? I am being totally serious.
It depends on the child and the offense. There is no "one discipline fits all" answer in my house.
I'm curious Dawn. What are schmoes? I'm wondering if that's what we call s'mores here in the east. Graham crackers, chocolate and marshmallows??
LOL! Yep! "Hot delicious schmoes" is a line from Toy Story 2.
Hi again Dawn, I am just curious if the masquito's < ( bad speller here) are really biting you all this year? They are terrible here in Michigan. I was told the bats are dying of some disese and therfore not eating them.
The mosquitoes stink. We just try to stay inside at dusk here. I hadn't heard anything about dwindling bat populations though. I figured it was just from all the flooding. I think Deb (boufmom) has some extra bats if anyone needs some!
Wow, so am I correct in assuming that you also live 3 hours away from the Brookfield Zoo? And you went twice in like a week? That's crazy! haha!
Ahhh no. I'm a few minutes away from the zoo.
From what I recall of central Illinois, you can just about see the ones shot off in Peoria from any point between Chicago and St. Louis. Am I right?
HAAA! Yep, I think you're right. Illinois is extraordinarily flat.
great post....But this is jus out of curiosity.I think i have met you YAHOO messenger.Do you write poems???
Ummm nope. I'm not on Yahoo and I definitely don't write poems.
Welcome home Dawn, Did you have any troubles with the truck on the drive home? Also was wondering what kind of tent or camper you use for your large family?
We have a kinda big camper. No tents for me anymore. No way. I'll take a camper with a bathroom, a microwave, and air conditioning thankyouverymuch.
Honestly, I bet you do love camping. It's just all the "other garbage" that you could do without....
Or not.
How hot is it in Chicago in August? I'm coming for a visit on the 14th and don't know how to dress. It's 100 degrees until October here in Mississippi.
It could be 100 or it could be 60. It's hard telling. Generally though, it's pretty hot (80s) and humid in August.
I have a question....how do we e-mail you? I've wanted to for awhile but I can't seem to find your e-mail address on your site. I swear I won't stalk you! Well, not anymore than I already do.....
mom2my6pack at aol dot com.
Dawn - A few questions for ya....reading your grocery store adventures is always a pleasure, but I have to wonder, at what age are you willing to leave one or two of the kids at home for the grocery run? My oldest is 11, and I'll leave him if I know he is A) occupied with something and B) my trip is under an hour.
I could leave the older ones at home for a short time while I went to the store, but I don't necessarily trust them to watch the little ones while I'm gone. Sooo, I'm mean and I make them all come with me so the older ones can help me out with the little ones.
Also, you mentioned Clayton's middle name and now it piqued my curiosity......what are all your kids middle names?
I have a hard enough time remembering their first names! Now you want to know their middle names too?
So do you always sit it out when you don't like your kids' friends?
It's only happened twice that I can think of, but other than hinting at some things, I left it up to my kids to decide. I figured if I forbid my kids from seeing them or said bad things about them, it would make my kids mad and make them want to hang out with them even more.
You know you really are starting to seem unreal to me. What a great way to handle this situation! You seem to be able to handle any situation, with grace and dignity
SNORT! That's just because I left off the part about my shaking in my Crocs and feeling like hurling all over the place.
OH - MY - GOSH! Brooklyn is so adorable in that picture. Have you ever considered trying to get her into commercials or modeling for catalogs?
Thank you and nope. I wouldn't begin to know how to go about that and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have time for it anyway.
You've got to help me (b/c you have so much extra time on your hands) - but I'm desperate and pls forgive my ignorance- for some reason I stopped receiving your updates in my email for a long time (I know, gasp!). Then recently, I went to your site and clicked to subscribe, but now I get the updates fully in email with no links so I cant see comments,etc. Tonite- I tried again, but can't figure out how to sign up for the email alerts that give me a link to your blog. (long winded cry for help) - where do I sign up for this?
I think you can click one of the links to the right of my blog (Feedburner, etc.)
Good for you! I think you handled that excellently! Thanks for sharing the experience with us so we could learn from it too. Ever thought about a parenting video!??!?! I'm sure the book will be full of "lessons learned" but a VIDEO...now THERE'S an idea!! =)
I have actually. We'll see...
BTW.. Dawn what is your secret (and Savannah's) for saving so well? I'm very impressed at how she was able to save so much $ at her age.
I don't have a secret. I have no idea. It's just how Savannah is. Jackson, on the other hand, can't keep money for a day without wanting to spend it. They're all different.
Way to handle a tough situation diplomatically and turn it in to a learning lesson. This does remind me of the Brady bunch. The end of every show was wrapped up with some pertinent life lesson, e.g Greg and his "Exact words".
LOL! Where did the Bradys go? Where are all the family shows we grew up watching? Full House? The Cosby Show? Little House on the Prairie? Different Strokes? Family Ties? The Facts of Life? Growing Pains? There's nothing good on tv anymore. Stupid reality shows (I get enough reality in my life) and stuff that isn't appropriate for kids. What happened to all the family shows??? Even the commercials are bad. Who wants to see 100 commercials for E.D. during a baseball game broadcast during the day??? Ugh.


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