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Thursday, September 25, 2008
Daniel prophesied one would arise: a little horn with a mouth speaking great things. I don't presently know if SOLANA is THE MOUTH, but he certainly has a mouth speaking very great things . . . is this the man who claimed "humanitarian intervention" gave him the right to violate the non-NATO territory of the Former Republic of Yugoslavia? (I believe he turned it into what some have turned "Solania.") At least, that is what I recall from when HE, JAVIER SOLANA was the head of NATO. Folks, things are happening and very quickly. Read about it here. Stay tuned!
Pakistan seeks access to EU markets
Solana says NATO has no right to operate in Pakistan
NEW YORK: Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi Wednesday underlined that Pakistan wanted complete access to the European markets.
He expressed these views during his separate meetings with various counterparts on the sidelines of the 63rd session of the United Nation General Assembly in New York.
Qureshi, who is on a visit to New York in connection with the 63rd UN General Assembly session, met Wednesday with Secretary General of the European Union and High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy Javier Solana, Foreign Minister of Egypt Ahmed Gheit and Foreign Minister of Australia Stephen Smith.
In his meeting with the EU Secretary General, Qureshi highlighted the importance of upgrading the relations between EU and Pakistan to summit level. He stressed the need for a free trade agreement between Pakistan and EU. He also expressed Pakistan's desire to establish relationship with Afghanistan that was based on mutual trust. The EU secretary general appreciated Pakistan's cooperation in the war on terror and the role it was playing in the global security situation.
The Egyptian foreign minister expressed condolences over the bombing of the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad. He said Egypt would continue supporting Pakistan in its difficult times.
In his meeting with the foreign minister of Australia, Qureshi emphasised the need for collaboration in various sectors, including agriculture and education.
Head of EU Security Javier Solana said that EU attached great importance to its relations with Pakistan; adding that EU would extend maximum support to Pakistan in the war against terror and effort to establish peace in Afghanistan.
Solana said only Pakistan Army had the right to operate within Pakistan territory and NATO forces had no right to operate within the territorial borders of Pakistan.
Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but would Solana's assesment of NATO/Pakistan not be correct here? If I recall correctly NATO is supposed to be an instrument for those countries that signed on to the intial treaty, not a tool for policing the world as both the USA and Solana himself have misused and misrepresented in the past?This does seem to be a case of do as I say not as I do though.
To all,
Dorothy has posted an excellent piece regarding the western hemisphere travel initiative. It was posted in the last thread. This appears to be (at least to me) one more step in a line of many, towards a unionized North America.
Great find, I pray that all is well now with you. Good to have you back.
Thanks for the thoughtful post and Dorothy, WELCOME BACK, we've missed you!
The last is an article by Michael Chertoff, USA director of Homeland Security. It is fascinating. He discusses global cooperation and our tight relationship with the EU. MOST FASCINATING is the presence of a paragraph that obviously does not belong in the article -- it is a paragraph about the weighted voting system of the EU and the Lisbon Treaty. It appears to belong to something else either written by Solana or one of his staff -- it refers to Poland as "a spoiler".
I don't know whether the fault is the typesetter or Chertoff never read the article under his name. Fascinating and disturbing!
and check out the many positive comentaries on it, such as:
At Abundant Hope you can also read about how to become a Messiah.
Dr. Solana's statement re. NATO not having any jurisdiction in Pakistan portrays him up as an ill-placed moral voice of authority, given his past actions in the former Yugoslavia, when Sec.-Gen. of NATO (as Constance noted).
In that NATO headquarters is located in Brussels, and the current Sec.-Gen. is a native of the Netherlands (a member of the 10-nation WEU), who has held regular meetings with Dr. Solana over the years, does not bode well, imho.
Instead, they've been instructed by the Superintendent to offer non-denominational prayers, a decision made following a recent ruling by the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Chaplains are trained in ministry and counsel employees and their families. Troopers volunteer for the program which began nearly 30 years ago. The policy does not apply to private services like funerals.
The decision was internal, but does have the support of Governor Tim Kaine.
In a statement Wednesday, Grayson County Delegate Bill Carrico called on the Superintendent to abandon, "this attack on Christianity."
Read entire article at:
Instead, they've been instructed by the Superintendent to offer non-denominational prayers, a decision made following a recent ruling by the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Chaplains are trained in ministry and counsel employees and their families. Troopers volunteer for the program which began nearly 30 years ago. The policy does not apply to private services like funerals.
The decision was internal, but does have the support of Governor Tim Kaine.
In a statement Wednesday, Grayson County Delegate Bill Carrico called on the Superintendent to abandon, "this attack on Christianity."
Read entire article here:
Speaking of "giving human rights to nature," (a.k.a. "Gaia") just this past June in Spain, the Spanish Parliament passed a resolution that would give human rights to apes.
Gee. Maybe PLANET OF THE APES isn't science fiction after all!
Updated: 23-Sep-2008
The United Nations (UN) is at the core of the framework of international organizations within which the Alliance operates, a principle that is enshrined in NATO's founding treaty.
UN Security Council resolutions have provided the mandate for NATO's operations in the Balkans and in Afghanistan, and the framework for NATO's training mission in Iraq. (skip)
In recent years, cooperation between NATO and the United Nations has developed well beyond their common engagement in bringing peace and stability to crisis-hit regions. Consultations with UN specialised bodies now cover a wide range of issues, including civil emergency planning, civil-military cooperation, combating human trafficking, action against mines, and the fight against terrorism.
What does it mean in practice?
NATO's Secretary General reports regularly to the UN Secretary General on progress in NATO-led operations and on other key decisions of the North Atlantic Council in the area of crisis management and in the fight against terrorism.
How did it evolve?
Although the formal link between the United Nations and the North Atlantic Alliance has been enshrined in their respective founding documents since the foundation of the Alliance in 1949, working relations between the United Nations and the Alliance remained limited for most of this period. The situation changed in 1992, against the background of growing conflict in the western Balkans, where their respective roles in crisis management led to an intensification of practical cooperation between the two organisations."
On: 26.09.2008
In: New York
Formalised in a first joint declaration signed on 24 September 2003 after Operation Artemis and completed by a new common declaration on 7 June 2007, UN-EU cooperation on crisis management has developed considerably in recent years,
This cooperation, which is a principal axis of the development of the ESDP, continues to diversify.
Also worthy of note are the new concrete proposals (early warning, personnel training and exchanges) to strengthen cooperation between the UN and EU, which the EU approved at the end of July 2008."
(ESDP is the European Security and Defence Policy.)
BEIJING, Sept 25 (Reuters) - Chinese regulators have told domestic banks to stop interbank lending to U.S. financial institutions to prevent possible losses during the financial crisis, the South China Morning Post reported on Thursday.
The Hong Kong newspaper cited unidentified industry sources as saying the instruction from the China Banking Regulatory Commission (CBRC) applied to interbank lending of all currencies to U.S. banks but not to banks from other countries.
"The decree appears to be Beijing's first attempt to erect defences against the deepening U.S. financial meltdown after the mainland's major lenders reported billions of U.S. dollars in exposure to the credit crisis," the SCMP said.
Just spotted the following two articles on Drudge.
While reading these clips, I recalled that there was a time when the former Soviet Union was trying to set up Nicaragua -led by Daniel Ortega and the Marxist Sandanistas - as a launching pad for revolutionary world communism in the Americas.
Well, boys and girls, guess who is back in the saddle in Nicaragua?
You got it.....Danny Ortega.
And guess who Danny Ortega's "new best friend" is? You got it again! Hugo Chavez!
Ron Reagan must be turning in his grave!
Sept.25, 2008 2:49 P.M. Eastern
Russia may launch nuclear energy cooperation with Venezuela, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Thursday during talks with the country's fiercely anti-US leader Hugo Chavez.
Sep 25 02:50 PM US/Eastern
MOSCOW (AP) - Prime Minister Vladimir Putin says relations with Latin America will be a foreign policy priority for the Russian government.
Putin, who is meeting with visiting Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, says Russia is willing to discuss further military contacts with Venezuela and help it develop nuclear energy for peaceful purposes.
Chavez said during Thursday's meeting that close ties between Venezuela and Russia would strengthen a multi-polar world.
Chavez' visit takes place as a Russian naval squadron sails to Venezuela, across the Caribbean Sea from the United States, in a pointed response to what the Kremlin portrays as threatening U.S. encroachment near its own borders.
Former Sandinista revolutionary Ortega is back on top in Nicaragua. Will his alliance with Venezuela -- complete with subsidized oil -- be a model for the rest of Central America?
And of course here in the "Peoples Republic of Massachusetts," we have Joe Kennedy importing oil from Venezuela.
Ain't love grand???
We hear a lot of yapping about how the UN needs to impose sanctions on countries that are suspected of trying to go nuclear in terms of the development of weapons of mass destruction under the guise of "developing nuclear energy for peaceful purposes."
How come no one is enforcing our own stinkin' Monroe Doctrine? Where are all the Colonal Oliver Norths and their "neat ideas" when we need them?
"In his classic 1932 book, Toward Soviet America, Communist Party boss William Z. Foster wrote about how "The United Soviet States of America" will come about. As a result of various capitalist crises, the national government would assume more and more control over the economy. "In finance," he wrote, "it will mean the nationalization of the banking system and its concentration around a central State bank…" Foster is dead, but the Wall Street financial "bail-out" plan offered by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, in coordination with the Federal Reserve, will bring about a socialist America.
It would be an exaggeration to say that we are getting close to anything resembling the Soviet system. But it is also a big mistake to call this a "bailout." It is socialism. Why are so many in the media afraid of using this term?
"After reviewing the Administration's proposed bailout plan, I believe it is completely unacceptable," said conservative Senator Jim DeMint. "This plan does nothing to address the misguided government policies that created this mess and it could make matters much worse by socializing an entire sector of the U.S. economy. This plan fails to oversee or regulate the government failures that led to this crisis. Instead it greatly increases the role for Secretary Paulson whose market predictions have been consistently wrong in the last year…"
Every newspaper in America should print a copy of his plan. Every news anchor and commentator should read it out loud to the American people. The American people have a right to know that President Bush and Congress are officially creating a socialist America.
Over at the "conservative" Fox News Channel, however, some commentators think this is just great. "I love it," Fred Barnes of the "conservative" Weekly Standard said of the temporary market rise in response to the anticipated Paulson plan. "Look," Barnes said, "when I keep hearing this is going to cost a trillion dollars, and so on, it may not cost anything." The U.S. may "come out ahead" in the long run, he confidently predicted. He praised Paulson and Bernanke for acting "boldly."
Another "conservative," Charles Krauthammer, was almost giddy. "It took FDR a decade to put in place all the institutions of the New Deal," he commented. "Paulson and Bernanke did it in ten hours. I mean, in one night, they created a whole new world.""
Read the complete article here-
Don't know if there is any corolation between this and the story Constance posted earlier. It seems a group of Pakistani troops fired on a US helicopter during a recon mission near the Afghan/Pakistan border. This escalated into rounds being exchanged by both sides.
Since Pakistan has been stating support for the "war on terror" of late, the only conclusion I can draw is it may be related to the post by Constance. Could be coincidence, if it is it's a big one!
It appears the UK is touting its new ID card (the one encrypted with RFID tech) almost as if its the end to all the problems currently plaguing the country, i.e. identity theft, illegal immigration, etc.
A life size cardboard effigy of Obama was found hanging from a tree at George Fox University. This of course adds fuel to the "if your anti-obama you must be racist" fire. To make matters worse GFU is a christian college. The report says it was a statement against a low income project, but this is barely mentioned while it goes on and on about racial tones and GFU being a christian college.
Who was president when the stock market crashed in 1929? When was television invented? FDR was never on television and he wasn't president in 1929. Duh!
Lengthy, but in-depth
from The Peace Alliance HR 808 (House Resolution 808)
Funny, that this was introduced by Dennis Kucinich--an open and noted New Ager!
Somehow, I don't think this will have much to do with the "Prince of Peace."
This is piggybacking on your observation on how NGOs may be used by the EU (and possibly, others) in the future to sidestep accountability/transparancy issues.
PPI an NGO Associated with United Nations
On June 30, 2008, Peace Partnership International's application for official status as an NGO associated the Department of Public Information of the United Nations was approved. This association provides us, among other things, access to UN facilities (including the NGO Resource Center), briefings for NGOs (which feature UN officials, Government delegates, and other experts), and observer status at open meetings of UN bodies. Importantly, it greatly enhances our global networking capacity to further our mission of forging partnerships for a culture of peace, including the campaign for a UN General Assembly resolution calling structures in government to support a culture of peace.
The link looked interesting so I tried to go to Warren Smith "Reinventing Jesus Christ" only to find that it wouldn't download. The book is no longer available from Amazon. I sent an email to Smith, so he might be able to fix it. In the meantime, those interested might find the gist of what he wrote at
his website.
I am new to Constance's website, but it has quickly become a mainstay to my daily edification along with God's Word. Thank you so much for your time, study, and insight in presenting all this information to us!
I have the pdf of Warren's book downloaded when it was available from his website. Do you wish to wait for Warren to reply? I can upload it to a website of mine and get a link to you somehow?
Are you sure you entered the URL correctly? It comes up quite easily for me-- reinventingjesuschrist.com
In fact I just copied some info from it just last night. It's a wonderful resource!
You can also get it in pdf form: reinventingjesuschrist.com/reinventing.pdf
Hope that helps.
The push for euthanasia grows:
From the Seattle Times, courtesy of American Life League.
Regurgitating the Apple: How Modern Liberals "Think"
Excellent, but long analysis, of the dangers in how liberals see their role in the elimination of discrimination.
Thanks for the pdf link to Smith's book. It worked.
From eureferendum
Freedom of speech – EU style
The EU parliament is on Thursday to vote on the Estonian Socialist MEP Marianne Mikko's ideas for controlling blogs, a fact recorded by Bruno Waterfield in the online edition of The Daily Telegraph - but not important enough to make it to the print version.
In the meantime, one of our own, Gawain Towler (pictured) who writes from the EU parliament on his blog, England Expects, has fallen foul of that self-same freedom-loving parliament, which has now shut him down. (more at link)
You've read here of Obama's connection to ACORN and how they pushed ideas that brought about the downfall of the financial system. Believe it or not, ACORN is scheduled to get money from the bailout plan.
p://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/kill-the-bailout-more-acorn-funding/ or
Do you sometimes get the feeling there is a long term plan to destroy the US? I do.
Glad the pdf version of Reinventing worked for you. However, the pdf version does not have the updates that Warren Smith wrote in 2006. I find the updates for each chapter as valuable as the original work.
I put reinventingjesuschrist.com into the URL without the www or http and it pops right up. Enter the site and go directly to "Updates". I'm not a computer geek, but maybe it's your computer??? Can you use a friend's computer?
by Mark Waller, The Times-Picayune "
On another forum I got into a heated debate with Hindutva types accusing Christianity of being anti-Jewish. One of them shot themselves in the foot and said jesus was a Hindu Yogi and that the God of the Old Testament was evil. We're seeing a re-surgence of Nazism world-wide.
The sixth Apparition
Our Lady Fatima
Fatima the daughter of Mohammed
I have been following the "ACORN and the bailout" story all morning.
It looks like Dodd's fingerprints are all over it. Quelle surprise! Dodd was reportedly the recipient of a "sweetheart loan" or two.
Regarding ACORN and the bailout, the following is from a report posted on the "HOT AIR"
The Democratic ACORN bailout; Update: Video addedposted at 7:55 am on September 26, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
"House Republicans refused to support the Henry Paulson/Chris Dodd compromise bailout plan yesterday afternoon, even after the New York Times reported that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson got down on one knee to beg Nancy Pelosi to compromise. One of the sticking points, as Senator Lindsey Graham explained later, wasn't a lack of begging but a poison pill that would push 20% of all profits from the bailout into the Housing Trust Fund — a boondoggle that Democrats in Congress has used to fund political-action groups like ACORN and the National Council of La Raza:
In the Roosevelt Room after the session, the Treasury secretary, Henry M. Paulson Jr., literally bent down on one knee as he pleaded with Nancy Pelosi, the House Speaker, not to "blow it up" by withdrawing her party's support for the package over what Ms. Pelosi derided as a Republican betrayal.
"I didn't know you were Catholic," Ms. Pelosi said, a wry reference to Mr. Paulson's kneeling, according to someone who observed the exchange. She went on: "It's not me blowing this up, it's the Republicans."
Mr. Paulson sighed. "I know. I know."
Graham told Greta van Susteren that Democrats had their own priorities, and it wasn't bailing out the financial sector:
And this deal that's on the table now is not a very good deal. Twenty percent of the money that should go to retire debt that will be created to solve this problem winds up in a housing organization called ACORN that is an absolute ill-run enterprise, and I can't believe we would take money away from debt retirement to put it in a housing program that doesn't work.
Here's the relevant part of the Dodd proposal:
DEPOSITS.Not less than 20 percent of any profit realized on the sale of each troubled asset purchased under this Act shall be deposited as provided in paragraph (2).
USE OF DEPOSITS.Of the amount referred to in paragraph (1)
65 percent shall be deposited into the Housing Trust Fund established under section 1338 of the Federal Housing Enterprises Regulatory Reform Act of 1992 (12 U.S.C. 4568); and
35 percent shall be deposited into the Capital Magnet Fund established under section 1339 of that Act (12 U.S.C. 4569).
REMAINDER DEPOSITED IN THE TREASURY.All amounts remaining after payments under paragraph (1) shall be paid into the General Fund of the Treasury for reduction of the public debt.
Profits? We'll be lucky not to take a bath on the purchase of these toxic assets. If we get 70 cents on the dollar, that would be a success.
That being said, this section proves that the Democrats in Congress have learned nothing from this financial collapse. They still want to game the market to pick winners and losers by funding programs for unqualified and marginally-qualified borrowers to buy houses they may not be able to afford — and that's the innocent explanation for this clause.
The real purpose of section D is to send more funds to La Raza and ACORN through housing welfare, via the slush fund of the HTF. They want to float their political efforts on behalf of Democrats with public money, which was always the purpose behind the HTF. They did the same thing in April in the first bailout bill, setting aside $100 million in "counseling" that went in large part to ACORN and La Raza, and at least in the former case, providing taxpayer funding for a group facing criminal charges in more than a dozen states for fraud.
....read entire article and view video.....
The following is the author Ed Morrissey's closing comment:
"Once again, the Democrats want to set up a self-funding mechanism, this time by exploiting a severe financial crisis. Despicable."
I think it's even bigger than that. Read this WSJ editorial by a hedge fund manager:
And you might read the transcripts of Rush Limbaugh from today. He discussed the behind the scenes maneuvering regarding the bailout (i.e. the cosiness between Secretary Paulson, The Goldman Sachs crowd and the Democrats). This deal stinks and we should all be contacting our Senators and Representatives. I already have.
It is probably a good thing Senator McCain DID go to Washington.
I don't think it was intended that this ACORN "cat" be let out of the bag.
Maybe McCain has more friends among the Democrats than people realize. I mean REAL Democrats....not socalled "Social Democrats" who are nothing more than Marxists disguised as "democrats."
I also heard that Obama "lost it" today when he was allowed to address the assembly in Washington.
Do you know anything about that?
"It was the German government's resistance (and particularly that of Chancellor Angela Merkel) which forced Sarkozy to seriously reconsider his proposal. In a climate of deteriorating French-German relations, Merkel and Sarkozy held a tense meeting on March 3, where they agreed to present a bilateral proposal for the Mediterranean Union at a European Council meeting 10 days later. This meeting resulted in the Europeanisation of the French proposal. Its name was changed again, this time to "Barcelona Process: Union for the Mediterranean", ample proof of a shift of emphasis. It was decided that all EU states would be invited to attend a summit in Paris on July 13. Finally, the European Commission was asked submit proposals for the development of this stage in Euro-Mediterranean relations. The big question now is whether it amounts to anything more than a cosmetic name-change. "
I am in western Michigan last two days attending a family funeral.
Curious thought crossed my mine -- the final scenario of Armageddon -- the kings of the East at war against the Beast and his armies -- before they both turn to fight the common enemies from the sky . . . COULD IT BE, COULD IT BE??
"Crisis = Opportunity"
I think we all need to closely look at what is going to happen after and because of this.
PM Brown argues for new financial order
George Soros, Maurice Strong and company redefine the Middleclass
This links US economic woes with George Soros, Maurice Strong and Warren Buffet
In other words, a financially destitute U.S. makes necessary global governance, Agenda 21, public private partnerships, etc. The fascistic NWO is thus made necessary. Hegel's or Marx's dialectic at work. International socialists is just another name for Marxist or communist. In light of this, the bailout being debated makes perfect sense. Even though it is the plundering and pillaging of the U.S., it makes perfect sense for the NWO.
This is about various "charitable foundations" and their links to "environmental groups".
You are right on target. A book called Tragedy and Hope by Dr. Carroll Quigley explains how an elite run the country. The difference is that he believed that the elite were doing a good job and deserved more publicity. Check out the book at Amazon.
Quigley wrote that the middle class deserved to die off because of their standards. There is also a chapter in the book called The New Age, although we wouldn't recognize it as we know New Age. Quigley encountered Clinton at Georgetown.
Euthanasia is definitely part of the New Age movement as it can also be labeled population control. Many things are.
Do a search with the word euthanasia and you'll find some information. The updated issue of the book was more specific. The book was described as the best guide to defining the New Age movement.
Euthanasia is part of the eugenics movement which was very active in the 1930s. This was the first time the New Age movement was being promoted. The idea is that everyone in a society has to be productive. The elderly are no longer productive, and so are disposable. There are others in the community who can be described as non-productive and so can be disposed of. It happened before.
Just remember that Constance has described the New Age movement as a resugence of Nazism.
Welcome aboard and thanks for the World Future Society briefings. I will go over there now and look for myself. "Speciesism" was what they used to call it.
Please accept my sincerest sympathy as well as my prayers on the occasion of your sad loss of a family member.
Solana is playing an interesting game with China as well. He is calling for Taiwanese UN participation which China opposes.
I have to say - interesting, serious consideration.
Dorpthy - agreeed on Quigleyss book - have a copy myself, Clinton published a "forward" to that - or at least what he percieved in his own ego to be in Between Hope and History"
Crisis indeed does equal opportunity but this time it is for the all the marbles - on October 1st federal troops get to patrol our streets -
What in the world are you talking about Dougin MI?
Does this have anything to do with the insane video going around that shows martial law being imposed in the US on Oct. 1st?
Yes, there are a number of these strange October 1 videos. A friend sent me a link to one of them and I started looking at what was out there. The details come from the old militia community with about as much credibility. Either they don't want to let the old material go to waste or there is some agent provateur thing going on. Of course newbies will be taken in as they usually are.
The first time you see this stuff you think you are being let in on some big secret. The second time you see it it's old news.
no question about it as the summit was still going on on Solana's birthday July 14...it was one of his birthday presents for 2008, after getting the Gold Price of 666.00 US$ on his birthday in 2007.
Watched the little video you linked to. The man in the video-to the best of my knowledge - is not Maurice Strong - although there is a slight resemblance, Strong is somewhat older. Take a look at his current website where he is pictured. Look at his biography on the site and you'll see earlier photos of him. There is a picture of Strong, his wife Hanne, Graca Marcel and Nelson Mandela. I can see where you would think it might be him in the video. -Rudi
Thanks for the heads up.
This isn't the first time an active-duty unit has been activated to assist
at home. Following Hurricane Katrina several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to the affected areas. The new mission is the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom.
Following are excerpts from a report from 'Army Times'. Full article at link below.
1st BCT: 1st Brigade Combat Team
CBRNE: Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear or high-yield Explosive
CCMRF:(pronounced "sea-smurf") CONSEQUENCE MANAGEMENT RESPONSE
JTF-CS - Joint Task Force - Civil Support
USNORTHCOM:(informally NORTHCOM) United States Northern Command
"Brigade homeland tours start
Oct. 1"
"3rd Infantry's 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping 'people at home' may become a permanent part of the active Army"
"Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future," said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. "Now, the plan is to assign a force every year."
"The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, ( 1st Brigade Combat Team) who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they'll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones."
"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."
"The 1st BCT's soldiers also will learn how to use "the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded," 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them."
"I can't think of a more noble mission than this," said Cloutier, who took command in July. "We've been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ... and depending on where an event occurred, you're going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones."
"The active Army's new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.
Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction-Civil Support Teams."
"I don't know what America's overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they're called," Cloutier said. "It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home."
"CCMRF 2 is expected to be fully operational by the start of fiscal 2010, with CCMRF 3 ready by the start of fiscal 2011.
"We envision that [the CCMRFs] could be regionally based," Cunniff said, perhaps one on each coast and one in the middle."
I feel so much better now :-(
- Rudi
Additional Information:
NORTHCOM Home Page:
Here you can read the History of USNORTHCOM:
February 14, 2008 CANADA-US CIVIL ASSISTANCE PLAN (CAP)
Thanks, I guess.
I mean I guess I'd rather know than not know.
Hey y'all
The Feast of Trumpets is tomorrow and the next day.
Does everyone have oil in their lamps ?
"So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."
Isaiah 41:10
"Retch (rech), v.i. to make efforts to vomit."
Looking into the bailout is that kind of effort; what political party moved to cripple our intelligence and then blamed the Bush administration for 9/11? You got it, the same one that insisted that everyone who could NOT afford a home had one. The same party that forbid those able to drill for oil on US territory, making the US more dependant on foreign sources and a greater imbalance in trade; it is still being preached by those more concerned for global warming than for the enslavement being engineered by enemies both foreign and domestic. Are the two parties working together (dialectic) to bring about order out of chaos? Maybe, but on the face of it I just want to throw-up.
I think a protest vote for Ron Paul is a good reply to at least the Republicans.
Ps: 12:8 "The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men."
Farmer has a new blog posted this am. More things that make you go hmmmmm... - Rudi
This website tells of a smear job done on Palin by what on the suface appeared to be a grassroots group but in reality seems to have a connection to a powerful public relations firm.
"The company he works for, Winner & Associates, is one of the largest PR firms in the country and part of an even larger international conglomerate Publicis Groupe, which is, "one the world's top 10 advertising and communications firms."
And what caught my attention in the write-up was
"Also the kind of people hired by the European Union to help sell the new EU treaty. Who was the lead in that effort? Ethan S. Winner."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2088325/posts (one of many places covering this story)
Power of Winner and Associates
Another business of head of Winner and Associates
I showed the link between Obama and New Age leadership in an earlier comment. It seems even more is going on behind the scenes pushing him forward.
"Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX) reports from the floor of the House that the Republicans have been cut out of the process and called unpatriotic for not blindly supporting the fraudulent bailout. He says the only debate has been about what talking points to use on the American people. The most ominous revelation is when he claims the Speaker has declared martial law.
"I have been thrown out of more meetings in this capital in the last 24 hours than I ever thought possible, as a duly elected representative of 825,000 citizens of north Texas." Said Congressman Burgess.
Burgess asks the Speaker of the House to post the bailout bill on the internet for at least 24 hours instead of passing the largest piece of legislation in US financial history in the "dark of night."
The most frightening part of Rep. Burgess' one-minute floor speech is when he says, "Mr. Speaker I understand we are under Martial Law as declared by the speaker last night." "
"If Nature Had Rights"
"The Humanist Manifesto"
(see, especially, Nos. 8 and 9, respectively--"...safeguard the environment;" and "an income tax to help the underdeveloped countries....")
Hmmm..., Al Gore and Barack Obama come to mind...
NY Society for Ethical Culture
"The Eart as Humanist Icon"
In the same vein as what I posted at 10:01
August 1, 2008 begins…
"Dear Friends, We have passed the tipping point. We have entered the convergence zone. Everything that is arising is converging and connecting. Everything that is breaking down is accelerating.
We have been projecting the transformation in 2012. It is happening now."
She goes on to write about Jim Garrison and Paul Ray:
"...The Design Team of the Foundation for Conscious Evolution has been invited to work with them on a major conference in the fall of 2009 in Washington, DC to mobilize this vital community of innovators and creators."
I'm quite sure the "major conference" she's looking forward to is the same conference Jim Garrison is promoting at State of the World Forum. It is the 2009 State Of The World Forum,
"Networking Creativity to Solve
Global Challenges, a 2020 Vision"
November 10 - 14, 2009 in Washington, D.C.
The primary purpose of the conference appears to be focused on the urgency of getting Al Gore's climate proposal implemented ASAP. Jim Garrison has written "A Global Call To Action", a petition now making the rounds, network to network with signatures being added daily. You can read the unedited version here: (This version mentions Barack Obama and John McCain by name)
The State of the World Homepage
version includes the names of those who have signed as of
On the Home-page check out The "New Political Compass". Also, at the top of the home-page, is a link to a youtube video presentation of the "New Political Compass" w/Paul Ray. This seems to be where BMH sees the "tipping point".
Interesting to note, the "Social Network" for State of the World Forum is set up through
Paul Hawken's "Wiser Earth".
Vote Tweedle Dee !
I was almost taken in by Tweedle Dum's suave
good looks, but not anymore.
I think Tweedle Dee clearly won the debate.
"....During Chavez's visit to Russia last week, a Russian naval squadron sailed for the Caribbean Sea in preparation for joint exercises with Venezuela later this year — a move that appeared retaliatory after the U.S. sent warships to deliver aid to Georgia.
The deployment is expected to represent the largest Russian naval maneuvers in the Caribbean — and perhaps the Western Hemisphere — since the Cold War.
Chavez says that stronger ties with Russia will help build a multi-polar world — a term the two allies use to describe their shared opposition to what they claim is U.S. global domination.
Since 2005, Venezuela has agreed to buy more than US$4.4 billion worth of weapons from Russia including fighter jets, combat helicopters, and 100,000 Kalashnikov assault rifles. And President Dmitry Medvedev has offered Chavez a loan to purchase additional weapons.
Chavez argues the United States and European Union do not have the right to prevent developing countries from pursuing nuclear technology, and he has strongly defended Iran's nuclear program despite the Western powers' fear that Tehran may be building nuclear weapons.
Before taking Russia up on its offer, Chavez had expressed interest in acquiring a nuclear reactor from Argentina and working with Iran, among other countries, to research nuclear energy....read entire article.......
During Katrina aftermath another thing took place - we gave control of some areas over to forgein troops- Mexican to be exact.
I see it has sparked some discussion. With the Dow dropping 777 points - I am sure that will spark more.
Sorry Paul, I can't even bring myself to check a box for either of those individuals.
Perhaps we can follow Israel's leading - a "no confidence" vote against both parties - massive recalls and the elimination of parties from the polling ticket due to the no confidence vote.
"More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose correctly."
Matthew 18:21-22 reads 'Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, Lord how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me?' Up to seven times? Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times."
My son was born 30 years ago today. I remember very well how startled I was to discover that Pope John Paul1 had died that very day that I had given birth, just one month into his papacy. Why? The question haunts me to this day.
Something is going on. I can feel it very strongly and it is very frightening in that I believe the devil is at work seeding discord, chaos and confusion amongst believers.
I have not been commenting here because there is often much strife between believers on this blog and it is frankly very disturbing.
I need to pass this along because it has been weighing heavily in my heart. Proverbs 6:16 states that there are SEVEN things that are detestable to Him. The seventh thing is this: "A Man who stirs dissension among brothers."
Ephesians 4:30 tells us not to grieve the Holy Spirit that has sealed us.
There has been too much dissension amongst believers of late- ripping each other apart. Those of you who are to blame know who you are.
The devil is working here and elsewhere-he is working frenetically because the time is short. We as believers in Yeshua/Jesus need each other to lift each other up in these times. If you are in a church that preaches that Jesus is Lord and Savior, please stop looking for fault in areas of dogma and doctrine if the basic message is pure.
I feel strongly that the enemy's plan in ripping Christians to shreds amongst each other is succeeding. Forget the dominionism, latter rain, joel's army stuff and ask whether your church is preaching gnostism- New Age mumbo-jumbo, theosophical doctrine, or any REAL heretical stuff!This is the fabric that the enemy is clothed in and we as believers are throwing the baby out with the bathwater if we refuse to acknowledge that the devil is sowing discord within the churches of believers.
The Holy Spirit is our intercessor on earth and we are increasingly playing into the hands of the enemy. Do Not grieve the Holy Spirit.
Do not give the devil ammunition.
I've refrained from speaking out here, but I feel it's time.
I felt like looking up Verichip today,since it is a Mark of the Beast kind of day, I was wondering what you thought of this. Verichip corp. sold off its assets in Xmark corp. which was its subsidary in RFID assets tracking in July of this year. So I went to Stanley Works, which is the company that bought it. Stanley works is the company that makes Stanley tools. So at the time that they bought xmark, they also bought Sonitrol, (I hope I spelled it right) which is a firm on the east coast that is commercial security, like we would see in residential security.
So... Stanley, an easily recognizable brand name just purchased RFID technology AND tracking and security company.
Also check out this quote from the Verichip website. They didnt sell of their medical tracking yet, but this is in the section about tracking during emergency management
"VeriChip is the only FDA-approved human implantable RFID,
Class 2 Medical Device
VeriChip™ RFID microchip, with its unique 16-digit identification number, creates a complete identification and tracking modality.
At the time and point of the microchip's insertion or attachment, a multitude of identifying characteristics of the body and associated evidentiary items can be entered into a web-enabled database. Users can now scan the microchip and transfer the ID to a Ricoh camera, which automatically embeds the VeriChip ID into every subsequent image taken. Ricoh cameras also use GPS to embed into the image the location where it was taken.
The need to repeatedly open body bags to confirm or reconfirm identity is removed.
Transfer of the microchip between remains is prevented due to its insertion within the body tissue or exposed bone. Unlike traditional paper "toe tags" or bar codes, detachment, obliteration, or switching are impossible."
I found it interesting that it can now use "images"
Their website says that they used this technology during Hurricane Katrina, they even have testimonials from a coroner.
no tiny url:
Good post young grasshopper!!!
Amen to that. We have far too many enemies to concern ourselves with these days to be fighting with our brothers.
Thanks for your very thoughtful post with which I fully agree. There has for a long time been a profound lack of charity on this blog. The way certain people are treated as outcasts by the "in group" reminds me of the worst kind of suburban high-school clique.
The "popular" people in the clique (you know who you are) who make snide and smug comments about "those people" they don't want to let into their special club (hardly anyone stands up to this bullying) are nearly always happy-clappy,lovey dovey towards each other. Then the "popular" people start patting each other on the back about what great servants they are of the Lord. Geeze Louize.
I've watched this dynamic unfold for months.
You are one of the few people here that doesn't do this. Your analysis and research are first-rate, and, more importantly, you show sensitivity and concern for others, and do not exclude people based on their religious affiliation.
The many puffed-up "I'm a Christian" types here who treat others quite badly provide very poor examples of what an adult Christian faith actually looks life as it's lived, and I'm sorry to say, the only conclusion one can draw is that many of the most "popular" people here in the clique simply do not posses an adult Christian faith.
If this is a community of Christians, then I have some swampland and McMansions in Florida, and some Lehman Brothers investments, that I can sell you.
This blog is about two things: (1) Research on the New Age and (2) Big egos
It's rarely about Christianity in any meaningful sense of the word.
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Thursday, July 1, 2010
Lamps and Shades
42 comments:
- Steve Blood said...
WOW!!!! What shade?
- July 2, 2010 at 6:35 AM
- Ann said...
How I remember this photo. Those were such fun days. What a babe! Oh, and the lamp and shade are wonderful, too. There are some other fun things in that photo. There is the aqua colored poodle that became my doorway to "owning" the Penrose copy of "Song of Years". Judy kept the poodle, I kept the book. (Elizabeth gave the poodle to Judy and me and it sat on our bed for several years.) There is the fun purse on the cabinet. Mine was red so this one must be yours?? We got those for Christmas, didn't we? The cross stitch pieces that are on the wall disappeared years ago, I think. I had made those. The curtains on the windows were our attempt at sprucing up the bedroom. Wasn't this photo taken the summer before you got married. If I remember right, you were putting things together for a trip to Washington?
That was also the summer the treadle (what would that be worth today) sewing machine disappeared and an electric Singer (it was magic) was purchased so Judy's wedding dress could be sewn. Wasn't this also the summer Steve got really sick/turned yellow, and Mother was in Laramie and we painted the living room and bought the TV? Busy summer! Or am I confused? Please be kind if that is the case.
- July 2, 2010 at 10:24 AM
- Ann said...
PS Am ignoring the comment on the whereabouts of the lamp and shade. I didn't take it with me when I left home. Wish I had!
- July 2, 2010 at 10:25 AM
- Elizabeth said...
What a babe! i was so proud of the aqua poodle that I gave to you both for Christmas in 1953. It was the first time I had earned enough money to buy real gifts for family. (How impractical is that?) Those are really puny pictures on the wall!
- July 2, 2010 at 12:21 PM
- Ann said...
Hey, those miniature cross stitch pieces on the wall were all we had. I think I stitched one of them and Judy stitched two, or??
- July 2, 2010 at 2:25 PM
- Judy said...
Ann took this picture and luckily the date is still on the side..1958 That would be the summer that I graduated and just before taking off for BYU to get educated. You know, like ladies don't stand like this. The needlework on the wall was beautiful..... and just as cherished is the bunny head just to the side of the window.
- July 3, 2010 at 12:27 AM
- Louise Blood said...
I love this picture. It's not just the pose, but the smile and the sparkling eyes, which all together seem to me to say, "Look out world, here I come!" I also love having a picture of the bedroom, boy, did that take me back. I don't believe there has ever been a picture of it. I wish this had been in color - I would love to see the poodle in color. Judy, do you still have it? What's the story of the bunny head? I seem to remember it.
- July 3, 2010 at 10:14 AM
- Ann said...
It is good to have the timing corrected. For some reason I thought it was one year later. The bunny head on the wall I still have. Louise had a pair that hung on the wall in the bedroom, but they left when she left home. I received the bunny heads as a gift at some point in time.
Now, since I got the timing of the photo off by a year, the rest of this may be all fiction.
- July 3, 2010 at 2:51 PM
- Judy said...
Ann, let us face it. Both summers were filled with nonesense with a little romance thrown in here and there.
Remember the other charming wall hangings, that I think were Louise's also. They were round, of a country scene, some tiny dried flowers and covered with a rounded plastic cover. I loved those!
- July 4, 2010 at 5:30 PM
- Ann said...
I do remember those wall hangings. They were round and had a "glass-type" covering that was shaped in a dome. Ah, treasures are wonderful, even in our memories.
- July 4, 2010 at 8:40 PM
- Louise Blood said...
Good memories, Ann and Judy. I actually still have those. You are right - one is a couantry scene, the other is a cottage. These were given to me by my friend, Margret Cyphers, but I don't remember when or what the occassion was.
- July 5, 2010 at 10:05 AM
- Judy said...
Now back to the aqua poodle. Other than a very worn brown teddy bear, I do not remember any other stuffed toys. So when the poodle came along via Elizabeth who had an eye for color and class, we were in style. That dog laid upon our pillows until Ann, the great barterer, asked for Song of Years in return for her shares in the poodle. Obviously she was very persuasive. I took my pet with me to my new married life and it was soon done in by 3 little boys.
Thank you Elizabeth for that treasure.
- July 5, 2010 at 10:41 AM
- Judy said...
P.S. Did we ever allow Dwight and Steve in the GIRLS room?
- July 5, 2010 at 10:42 AM
- Elizabeth said...
Grudgingly - actually, they knew it was off-bounds. And we had to go into Dwight's & Steve's bedroom to get Christmas apples or oranges. Remember Dwight's balsa-wood-tissue airplane models that always resulted in blue air? And his match cover collection? His room was always interesting. (Have you noticed how we've managed to drag out this posting so that someone else doesn't have to add another picture.?)
- July 5, 2010 at 4:01 PM
- Judy said...
Yes, to all comments. But I was wondering if we could get Louise to take a picture of the "round" pictures from our bedroom, and put that on the blog???? Say yes?
And we need a picture of Ann's copy of Song of Years.....
- July 5, 2010 at 8:07 PM
- Judy said...
P.S. Dwight? Steve? or is this too much girl talk?
- July 5, 2010 at 8:08 PM
- Steve Blood said...
Have you noticed how the subject has been craftily changed from it's original subject, lamps and shades?
- July 6, 2010 at 4:00 AM
- Judy said...
Blue air.....um....Yes, Dwight's room was sacred territory. Louise, would you take a picture of your round wall hangings and post them on the blog? That would be fun. And Ann, how about the precious copy of Song of Years?
Steve and Dwight.....what do you have in your defense?
- July 6, 2010 at 8:33 AM
- Ann said...
What we need next is a photo of Dwight's chest. Then we could discuss the mystery of its contents.
- July 6, 2010 at 9:38 AM
- Dwight said...
- July 6, 2010 at 10:37 AM
- Louise Blood said...
I had actually thought about taking a picture of the plaques. I'll have to get Stephanie to take the picture. Whether allowed or not, I know for an embarrasing fact that Dwight was in our room at least a few times because he managed to find my diary and dellighted in teasing me about what I had written. (which I won't repeat, and Dwight had better not.)
- July 6, 2010 at 10:40 AM
- Elizabeth said...
Be careful what you write. Dwight usually can't resist rising to the challenge. Until he found your diary, he thought most of the contents of our room very uninteresting. Besides, he's sick, so we have to make allowances..or not.
- July 6, 2010 at 8:42 PM
- Dwight said...
It was called the Tunnel of Love. I didn't snoop. It was in plain sight. And nauseating. I've been mentally scarred ever since.
- July 7, 2010 at 6:09 AM
- Louise Blood said...
I figured Dwight couldn't resist to rise to the bait. You probably all know the story and what "it" was.
Serves you right, Dwight, being mentally scarred, for reading the diary,
- July 7, 2010 at 10:31 AM
- Dwight said...
The orange chest was originally Dad's tool chest. It was in my room because there was no place else to put it. There was never anything in except maybe dirty socks and such. I had no dresser, no mirror, no flimsy doodads on the wall. I thought about sending the photo to my friends at FBI hdq. who run the computer forensics program there to find out the titles of the books. I tried, but no luck. I don't think I even had curtains. It was sad.
- July 7, 2010 at 2:56 PM
- Judy said...
Notice the bottle of fingernail polish remover on the cabinet? Ann was into doing her nails?
- July 7, 2010 at 10:49 PM
- Dwight said...
Study Guide for Lamps and Shades:
1. List each and every item visible in the photo, including the upholstery tacks that held the top on the cabinet.
2. Write the history, origins, and future destinations of each and every item in the photo.
3. No one mentioned the glass doorknob.
4. List the titles of all books in the bookshelf.
5. Explain why girls had so much more luxurious surroundings and doodads than boys.
6. Explain why the pose was a bit, shall we say, "risque."
7. Identify, list, and provide past and current history of all unseen items that are not in the photo but in the room.
- July 8, 2010 at 10:29 AM
- Dwight said...
In re: housekeeping: the rag rug creeps up on the bookshelf. The chenille bedspread is not even, indicating sloppy bedmaking. There are some boxes of stuff on the cabinet to which no one has alluded (to).
- July 8, 2010 at 10:40 AM
- Elizabeth said...
Sloppy bedmaking? We made it every morning, or else! Books in the little table by the bed always included the following: Carl Sandburg's "Abe Lincoln, The Prairie Years", Elizabeth Goudge's "City of Bells"; "No Trumpet Before HIm", which came from a book club Daddy belonged to for a short while; "Song of Years" and "Mother Mason", by Bess Streeter Aldrich, "Adam Bede" by George Eliot; "Tree of Liberty", and what else???? Knew some of them almost by heart.
- July 9, 2010 at 4:11 PM
- Judy said...
I found and bought a copy of Woman With a Sword this morning. That book was in the bookshelf at various times. I will respond to Dwight's list after I have had a good night's sleep.
- July 10, 2010 at 12:14 AM
- Elizabeth said...
Why can't I remember "Woman With a Sword"? What was it about? I can't have forgotten a book! Horrors!
- July 10, 2010 at 11:55 AM
- Judy said...
Another book from Dad's book club. It is a historical novel about A. Lincoln and the Civil War. Black cover. Shall I take a picture and post it on the blog? You will immediately recognize it.
- July 10, 2010 at 7:34 PM
- Elizabeth said...
I remember vaguely, but for once, I can't remember the story. Phooey.
- July 11, 2010 at 7:33 AM
- Dwight said...
I think the book was Carl Sandburg's biography of Abraham Lincoln
- July 11, 2010 at 5:49 PM
- Judy said...
No. That book was in the big book shelf in the living room. Only books with romantic connections were allowed to reside in our little white book stand.
- July 11, 2010 at 6:41 PM
- Elizabeth said...
Sorry, Judy, but during my tenure in the "girl's bedroom", Carl Sandburg was in the little bookshelf by the bed You must have moved it.
- July 11, 2010 at 10:31 PM
- Judy said...
You can tell that I didn't read it.
- July 12, 2010 at 8:12 AM
- Judy said...
I must have replaced it with my Nancy Drew and "The Clue of the Tapping Heels" book.
- July 12, 2010 at 8:13 AM
- Elizabeth said...
there were a couple of Nancy Drews there, along with Heidi, and Five Little Peppers. Have we hit a record on the number of comments for this posting?
- July 12, 2010 at 9:56 AM
- Judy said...
We have yet to see new postings of Louise's round wall hangings, and additional info on Dwight's orange chest. What happened to it?
Also who is going to write the story of the glass door knobs?
- July 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM
- Ann said...
Five Little Peppers? How I loved that book. Does anyone have the original? Another book went into the white nightstand that was quite famous - "Marsha, Private Secretary". I don't have any idea how that book came to be in my collection (don't still have it), but Dad used to tease me like crazy and sometimes would call me "Marsha". It was quite mind stimulating!
- July 14, 2010 at 2:24 PM
- Judy said...
Is that where the phrase orginated? How often we used that title!
- July 15, 2010 at 8:46 AM

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05 Feb 1905 Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum born (St. Petersburg, Russian Empire). She was the eldest of the three daughters of Zinovy Zakharovich Rosenbaum and Anna Borisovna (nee Kaplan) Rosenbaum. Zinov'yevna = daughter of Zinovy. This is a Jewish Patronymic form. While she was born into Czarist Russian Empire and by this time Jews were forced to have permanent last names (i.e. Rosenbaum), you can still see Jewish patronymic tradition evidenced in her name. Likewise her father Zinovy has for a middle name a Patronymic indicating his father was probably named: Zakhar (the 'ovich' indicating son of) and her mother's father would have been named Boris. So the names illustrate the Jewish patrilineal culture.
1921-1925 (or possibly even into January of 1926). Alisa Rosenbaum (aka Ayn Rand) was in an affair with a Jewish man upon whom she cheats on, by having an affair with a Communist soldier/bureaucrat. The belligerence and angry behavior in ending the affair with the Communist by Alisa endangers her and her family's lives. This era is the topic of her first book published in America, We The Living (published 1936). Ayn Rand is herself was quoted saying …
"We the Living is as near to an autobiography as I will ever write." –Ayn Rand
27 Jan 1926 Alisa Rosenbaum is in Riga getting her Russian passport for travel to US. She departs Leningrad (aka St Petersburg / Petrograd) on that date going to Le Havre, France (onto USA).
19-Feb-1926 Alice Rosenbaum arrives in New York City, NY on board the SS De Grasse her Atlantic passage was in a Cabin (not Steerage or 3rd class). The ship manifest says she arrives from her father Sinovy Rosenbaum [who lived at Dmitrowski 16, apt 5 in Leningrad] with $50 in cash and later on she said to have had a beat-up typewriter with her on the trip. Upon arriving, she goes to her uncle Harry Portnoy in Chicago, IL.
She lives with her aunt/uncle in Chicago from February through August and arrives in Hollywood, CA on September 3rd 1926.
1927 Alice meets Frank O'Connor a budding actor on Cecil B deMille set of King of Kings (both were extras). Alice tripped Frank on the set to get him to notice her. In June, de Mille hires Rand as a junior screen writer.
15 Apr 1929 Los Angeles California. Charles Francis O'Connor marries Alice Rosenbaum. Rand is working in wardrobe at RKO.
1 Apr 1930 Alice O'Connor (wife of Charles F. O'Connor) was married in 1929. According to the 1930 US Census, she is an actor in motion pictures. Alice (aka Ayn) lives at 823 North Gower Ave, Los Angeles, CA.
13 Mar 1931 Alice O'Connor is granted US Citizenship. She had applied for citizenship on 1st-Dec-1930. She had used the Cable Act (1922) to avoid filing a Declaration of Intent. Marriage date is confirmed and a specific location is given.
1932 Rand's Red Pawn is sold to Universal Pictures.
1934 Her first play (Woman on Trial) opens in Hollywood in October. In November, the O'Connors move back to New York City.
16 Sep 1935 Night of January 16th (formerly, Woman on Trial) opens on Broadway. Frank O'Connor (her actor/artist husband) plays a part in the play. The play was considered a success.
18 Apr 1936 We The Living is published. See quote above for how this book is autobiographical of her life under Communist Russia. The book was a bust. The publisher destroyed the plates for a reprint — so even after Ayn Rand becomes a popular author this work could not be reproduced. It was Ayn Rand's first novel. Like most first novels, it was rejected by a slew of publishers. Macmillan Company did pick it up and publish the work. They only printed 3,000 copies. When reviews were bad and sales were weak, Macmillan destroyed the type. After Rand achieved success as an author with her later novels, a revised edition of We the Living was republished.
Early 1939 Rand receives her last communication from her family in Communist Russia.
April 1940 The O'Connors are recorded in the US Census living at 95 East 89th Street. Frank is an actor and Ayn is a writer (novelist & playwright). Ayn works on Wendell Willkie Presidential campaign.
8 May 1943 Ayn gets Fountainhead published. This fictional work is a success. Architects like her for her fictional depiction as a kind of idealized male who was an architect. In November, the O'Connors move back to California so that Ayn can work on the Fountainhead screenplay. This is their second California era.
1944-1957 Ayn Rand works on writing her magnum opus Atlas Shrugged. Atlas Shrugged is an 1168 page dystopian sci-fi drama that takes her Objectivist kernel from Fountainhead and explores it full force Atlas Shrugged including a 60 page speech by John Galt.
Alan Greenspan, who is a part of the "Collective" consults with Rand on the economics concepts in Atlas Shrugged.
1945 Frank Lloyd Wrights hosts Ayn at his Taliesin East studio (WI) as Fountainhead hits #6 on NYT Bestseller List.
1948 Nathaniel Blumenthal (later Branden) meets Barbara Weidman who are Fountainhead fans. They would later marry. Barbara introduces Nathaniel to her ex-boyfriend Wilford Schwartz and her cousin Leonard Peikoff. Later these become a part of the Collective.
Spring/Summer 1950 Blumenthal/Weidman visit Rand and O'Connor after numerous letter by Blumenthal to Rand and an exchange of phone numbers. The two couples become close friends.
Summer 1951 Blumenthal/Weidman move to New York City to finish their studies at New York University. By October, the O'Connors move back to New York City ending their second era in California. The Collective (an ironic name) of Rand followers formed at this time. These along with Alan Greenspan (future Fed Chairman) form the "Collective". Frank O'Connor plays host to these young intellectuals who are led by his wife Ayn.
January 1953 Blumenthal/Weidman get married and Rand/O'Connor are the matron of honor and best man at the wedding. They are now the BRANDENS.
By January 1955 Nathaniel Branden and Ayn Rand (the original cougar who is 25 years older than Branden) begin a sexual relationship on top of their friendship and intellectual pursuits.
10 October 1957 After 14 years of writing, Atlas Shrugged is published and the dedication reads, "To Frank O'Connor and Nathaniel Branden". At first Atlas Shurgged is panned by critics. On October 13th the NYT review is published. Alan Greenspan critiques the reviewer in the November 3rd NYT letters page.
Background / Asides about 1950's
An enthralling piece by Bill Bradford on Alan Greenspan and Ayn Rand with insights on the Collective is found here:
The material supplied by the Brandens with an excellent timeline whose essential points were echoed above by Bradford (who interviewed the Collective over many hours). This whole Passion Drama with who is sleeping with whom and betraying whom is a big mess requiring a scorecard, that can be found here:
A FAQ on Ayn Rand thoughts on the many topics make the many tales above appear in context and are found at the Objectivist Reference Center here:
A stunning Mike Wallace interview from 1959 is on the Internet in a few places (in two parts). His interview can be found here:
In the above interview, she predicts the US will fall and become a dictatorship. Thankfully, 53 years later this bleak prophecy has never come true.
1st Jan 1961 There is also a 30+ minute interview at the University of Michigan, with James McConnell where she lays outs her philosophy. It is a focal point for many of the critical points I make and can be found here:
After the 1950's end Rand is partners with the Collective including the Brandens; They publish the Objectivist newsletter and NBI Lectures on audio tapes. Ironically, in the midst of these sordid affairs detailed at the many links above, Rand's essay collection The Virtue of Selfishness is published. It includes articles written by Nathaniel Branden. But the complexities of these liaisons soon begin to unravel. The unraveling continues throughout the 1960's until November of 1970 when Ayn Rand republishes The Virtue of Selfishness with her repudiation of the Brandens, but leaving in Nathaniel Branden's essays. She yells at Nathaniel Branden, slaps him multiple times in one meeting, curses him with impotency , makes allegations of financial impropriety, finally closing NBI and firing the Brandens . She continues just publishing the newsletter by herself with other junior members.
1970's Throughout the 1970's Rand's writings and her involvement in Objectivism decline.
1974 At the age of 69, after years of heavy smoking Ayn Rand requires surgery for lung cancer. She had started her Social Security benefits and Medicare insurance to cover her real costs of her smoking.
1976 Rand stops her writing for good.
9 Nov 1979 Frank O'Connor (you remember Ayn Rand's husband) dies. He is buried in Kensico cemetery, Vahalla NY. Frank's marriage to Ayn Rand had amazenly lasted 50 years amidst all the turmoil. Frank is listed in Social Security Death Database — which just to make plain to non-genealogists means he collected Social Security checks too.
6 Mar 1982 Ayn Rand dies and is buried with her husband Frank O'Connor in Kensico cemetery. You can view their tombstone at Find-A-Grave: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=35266557 .
Next … Ayn Rand vs Objectivism & The Critique
P.S. I have the following genealogical documents that I found in the course of my research:
- Alice Rosenbaum (aka Ayn Rand, Alice O'Connor, Ayn Rand O'Connor) 1926 Ship Manifest also see above.
- 1930 US Census (Los Angeles, CA @ 823 North Gower Street (matches 1930 US Census, confirms marriage date)
- 13 March 1931 Petition For Naturalization & Certificate of Arrival. The Certificate of Arrival is interesting as it does NOT reference the Ship Manifest and the Petition says the 1922 Cable Act eliminated her requirement for filing a Declaration of Intent. It includes her signature as Alice O'Connor.
- 1940 US Census
- Ancestry.com SSN Death Master details for Ayn Rand's social security.
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Wednesday, August 27, 2008
Bristol TV Ratings Get NASCAR's Attention
It had the shortest laps, the most excitement and was live in East Coast prime-time. It featured the top stars in the sport and came when the scramble for Chase spots was in full-swing. ESPN had all their TV stars on-hand and covered the racing action from start-to-finish. In the end, that wasn't enough.
National TV ratings for Saturday night's Sprint Cup Series race from Bristol were down. The numbers show viewership fell from 5.7 million to just under 5 million homes. A 3.5 rating this year as opposed to a 4.1 last season.
Numbers aside, the final night of Olympic event coverage certainly played a role in these results. So did the growing availability of alternatives to the ESPN coverage. DirecTV's Hot Pass, NASCAR.com's Sprint Race View and live radio coverage all use other pathways to deliver the same racing content that ESPN is producing.
The transition of Bristol from a gladiator-style crash-fest into a two-groove racetrack had to play a role as well. Even though ESPN promoted the race as a "slugfest" and "full contact NASCAR action," nothing could be further from the truth. Accidents happened because of spotter error, blown tires and the limited visibility in the new COT.
After watching the racing action for so many years from this tiny oval, it seems ironic that one or two bumps at the end among the leaders would cause such a stir. ESPN has a tough challenge on its hands to try and bump-up the ratings, but at least they are secure in the knowledge that this will be the final Fontana race in the heat of the summer on a Labor Day weekend.
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38 comments:
- Gomez the Speed Freak said...
I dunno, TV ratings are highly suspect at the best of times ... maybe the (very) few numbskulls who fill out those surveys were otherwise too busy to bother filing them out ... maybe they were bbq'ing smores ... nipping on some Wild Turkey ... or playing Bridge .. or betting the farm in online poker ...
That being said, and all kidding aside, think about it seriously for a moment: they way the TV industry goes about figuring out ratings is neanderthalic at best, morontic at worst.
I mean, come one, JD, imagine if someone asked YOU how many visitors you had today to this website. You'd have the statistics at your disposal in real time on an hour by hour basis. Or at least you could if you wanted them
But TV and radio and, for that matter, newspaper viewers/listeners/readers is pur hocus-pocus.
Or more succinctly: bullsh*it.
- August 27, 2008 at 7:08 PM
- GtSF said...
Cripes, sorry for all the typos, I'm frikin embarrassed ...
- August 27, 2008 at 7:10 PM
- SallyB said...
I have been attending the night race at Bristol since 2002. Over the past several years, I have watched the 'excitetment meter' dropping during the race. It started before the tracks was repaved, and since the Busch series manages to keep the intensity level pretty high, I don't think that has much to do with it. Since the manufacturing of 'the chase', the racing at Bristol has gotten more and more polite. The COT hasn't added to the intensity, either. I was yawning by lap 150. To me, 30 'exciting laps' isn't what people expect at Bristol. I'm not saying the racing is bad, per se, but these days it's a lot more like watching a race at MIS, only with lapped traffic. It may be good racing, but it isn't the Bristol that fans have come to expect. You don't have to have wrecks every 10 laps to have intense racing. Bristol seems to have misplaced that over the past 3 or 4 years. I find it interesting that the TV audience wasn't rapt, either.
There are very few unique tracks left in Nascar these days, races being awarded to tracks because of demographics, market desirability, or amenities. It's sad to see one of the few left being homogenized into a track that drivers love and fans find, well, boring.
- August 27, 2008 at 7:15 PM
- Newracefan said...
Perhaps it was rebound from the disaster of NW and the race the week before, add a little Olympics... game over.
- August 27, 2008 at 7:32 PM
- Vince said...
Just a personal observation, but for this viewer Bristol turned into a snooze fest about the same time Dale Sr. passed away.
- August 27, 2008 at 7:32 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
I find it intriguing that you virtually never see any real criticism of the TV broadcasts (in particular TNT & ESPN) except on Internet sites. At most you might see some brief reference to some "fan dissatisfaction" in newpapers, magazines, and the largest websites. I can understand why ratings are down, but apparently the major media people are either unaware or unconcerned - or are more concerned with not angering the broadcast entities. Makes one wonder about the credibility of most of the media.
- August 27, 2008 at 7:49 PM
- darbar said...
We've been saying for a long time that Nascar is slowly going down the tubes, and it appears no one cares---not the networks, not the big wigs of Nascar and possibly not the drivers. The COT is boring---who wants to watch identical cars, that don't handle well, racing at boring cookie-cutter tracks? The Chase is the worst idea since I don't know when. There's no real racing for the first 26 races---these guys are only points racing enough to get into the Chase. Jr said as much in a few interviews this season. He said that he only wants to secure his spot in the Chase and won't do anything to hurt that chance. It's obvious these guys are only driving around the tracks, adding up their points and making sure they don't race too hard so they won't crash and end up 43rd. Most fans don't want to see crashes, but only want good, hard, wheel to wheel racing with all 43 guys trying hard to WIN and not just race for points.
Then of course, you have these idiots changing things like the Bud Shootout, that will only alienate fans more, after finding out that fan favorites Tony Stewart and Ryan Newman won't be allowed in the race. And then to find out this morning on Nascar on Sirius that it was the car manufacturers who demanded this change to the Shootout, and not Nascar at all, will cause a whole lot of hard feelings from fans. When Nascar rah rah man, David Poole, finds fault, you know there's a problem.
Attendance and viewership will continue to fall for Nascar, especially in light of the horrible coverage provided by the likes of TNT and ESPN.
Please, Nascar, wake up and turn the sport back to what it was, viewer friendly, highly competitive with professional TV coverage. Oh, I'm sorry. That means probably making a few million dollars less, and we all know that idea won't fly with Brian, lets grab the dough, France.
- August 27, 2008 at 8:57 PM
- Sophia said...
I had NOT IDEA the car manf changed the shoot out rules.
Either way that STINKS and angers me.
NO TONY and NO RYAN???????????
Another reason to skip more races..and many of us are.
WHO CARES?? TPTB of NASCAR DO NOT.
- August 27, 2008 at 9:12 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
I need to go back and read again, but I thought the Shootout had to be changed anyway and the decision was made to change it in a way that would be appreciated by the manufacturers. Since Coors now sponsors the pole awards and Bud the Shootout, there was no longer a real incentive to use pole winners as the entre to the Shootout.
- August 27, 2008 at 9:36 PM
- darbar said...
Richard, the gentleman on Sirius this morning distinctly said, upon questioning by David Poole, that this change in the format was at the behest of the car manufacturers. He said that they wanted to see manufacturer against manufacturer for the early part of the race and then a no-holds-barred race for the last 10 laps. He said they want to see the Chevy guys working together against the Toyota guys and the Dodge and Ford teams all working against the other three manufacturers. Poole asked if they were planning on making an exception for past Champions, so that Stewart and any other shut outs could get into the race, and Poole was told no, but "maybe" for 2010. Poole asked if they were going to award a trophy to the winning manufacturer and the guys said, yes, that's the plan. So, what that says to me is, they are turning the Shootout into a manufacturer's king of the hill, rather than a driver's race. In the end, this will not attract the viewers at home or in the stands.
- August 27, 2008 at 10:03 PM
- Anonymous said...
That's how I understood it as well Richard.
Yup Sophia...Smoke & Ryan won't be in it because unless some weird miracle happens the cars they'll be in at SHR won't be one of the top 6 Chevys :(.
I'm upset over it because people like Patrick who looked forward to being in it won't be :(. Unless my counting is off, as it stands now Patrick is 2 away but I still don't think he could move up high enough :(.
- August 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
David Poole is not real specific in his article in Tuesday's Charlotte paper, except that Coors' becoming sponsor of the pole award "signaled an end to having Cup teams earn Shootout spots based on" poles won. I don't disagree, except that Bud had a reason to change the basis for Shootout spots in order to avoid any tie in with the Coors pole awards.
- August 27, 2008 at 10:26 PM
- Anonymous said...
The highest rated Olympics ever probably packed more of a punch to the NASCAR ratings that anyone here is willing to give them credit.
- August 27, 2008 at 10:29 PM
- Sophia said...
I can believe anything about the Olympics. Everywhere I read were how much the ratings helped NBC..though I watched less than an hour. Total.
- August 27, 2008 at 10:42 PM
- kbaskins said...
I can give another reason for the ratings being down on Saturday night: the Nationwide race on Friday.
Did anyone else, like me, seriously give some thought to skipping the Cup race after the debacle on Friday? If it wasn't for the fact that I work Sundays and have very few chances to watch a Cup race, I wouldn't have bothered.
Granted, ESPN made an excellent recovery on Saturday, but if I had an opportunity to watch all the races instead of about a quarter of them, I would not have gone out of my way to make time for NASCAR.
- August 27, 2008 at 11:30 PM
- Dot said...
Ditto regarding the Olympics. The most I saw was just over an hour, only because it was on at my nail shop. Did not watch any at home.
If the ratings were down at Bristol, what's CAs ratings going to look like? I wouldn't watch the race either, but the only radio station I found in LV is sandwiched between two Mexico radio stations so I can't even get it. Note too, if they have alot of tight track shots so they don't show the empty stands.
I read elsewhere that you can even get free tickets. It's sad they get two races a year.
JD, I know some mentioned the Shoot Out's new rules. Are you going to post that subject? My fingers are ready.
- August 28, 2008 at 2:05 AM
- SallyB said...
Suppodedly the motivation behind the creation of the crapshoot was to keep viewer interest high as football season approached. doesn't apper to be working, does it? Now, the Bud shootout is a manufacturer's trophy? I guess they needed something to pretend the COT pays more than lip service to each manufacturer.
- August 28, 2008 at 6:26 AM
- Anonymous said...
For the first time in it's history ,the sponsors run NASCAR . Think back to the days of Bill France ( Sr.and Jr. ) and try to visualize the AT&T vs Nextel fiasco happening on their watch . Does anyone think that Bill Jr. would have ever allowed NASCAR to be put in the position of having to change the rules just to satisfy sponsors . The answer is no . He easv always willing to work with sponsors on various programs , but it was always very clear who had the final say . Bill Jr. and Bill Sr. always made sure that the racing was the most important facet of NASCAR . The bowing down to every sponsors' whim is killing the sport of stock car racing , and it's no coincidence that the drop in attendance and tv ratings coincide with the arrival of the current " leadership " or lack thereof . NASCAR .
- August 28, 2008 at 7:13 AM
- Anonymous said...
If...if...the ratings were down at Bristol, then why...why would anyone, other than the lame management at Fontana schedule a Nationwide race to start AFTER 10:00 PM EDT, given the line of thinking that if no one is in the stands, which could happen, then there should be no one watching on television. This does wonders for the ratings not to say what it does for the image of "that track on the left coast." Or as someone told me, Fontana is a "weed" between two roses....they just have the misfortune of racing in between Bristol & Richmond...how fortunate for the fans, we get to see highlights on SportsCenter the next morning for the Nationwide & the Cup race because the races will have ended after midnight EDT.
- August 28, 2008 at 7:24 AM
- Bill B said...
The sad part is that no matter what they do the Shootout we all will still watch because it's the first "race" of the season and we will all be hungry.
With that said, I think it sucks to have it revolve around manufacturers instead of results. Sorry but to let Tony Stewart (6th in points) sit out while Michael Waltrip (fighting for 35th in points) races is just wrong.
I hope that I have something so important to do on that weekend that I can't watch the race.
- August 28, 2008 at 8:07 AM
- ri88girl said...
I have always been a proponent of the idea that if Bill Jr and Dale Sr were still in charge we would a)not have the COT, b)not have 4 dominent teams and almost no independents and c) be racing at darlington on labor day. But would we? Or is Brian like the drivers and sponsors and networks a product of this new age? I would venture to say that the complaints we have about these things could be expanded to encumpas larger themes in todays America we find distructive and disfunctional.
- August 28, 2008 at 8:32 AM
- GinaV24 said...
So Bristol's ratings were down -- not terribly surprised, the racing isn't as good since the chase made the drivers have to be "careful", the track now has, according to the drivers, 2 grooves so they can race without the pushing and shoving that made it fun -- wrecks weren't necessary, but the pushing and shoving was fun to watch and the incredibly ugly and boring cinderblock on tires to boot. I saw a race there before the chase, before the repaving and before the ugly car and I'm really glad I did because that was the last great race at Bristol.
JD, your title says Bristol TV ratings gets NASCAR's attention. Did it really? I still don't think that the mgmt of NASCAR really does get it, that a lot of fans are turned off by what the sport has sunk to -- boring racing on cookie cutter tracks. I still see articles in the media including on Jayski about how wonderful the chase is and how exciting it is for the fans. I'm sure some people find it exciting, but to me it is just a made for tv deal and a bogus way to decide a champion. I'm never going to love it.
I wish something would get NASCAR's attention, but I'm not counting on it until no one shows up at the track or watches it on tv, maybe then, they'll be worried.
I'm very unhappy with the change in the Budweiser shootout race, too. I'm not sure I'll bother watching.
- August 28, 2008 at 8:35 AM
- Anonymous said...
The last weekend of the highest rated olympics coverage ever VERSUS nascar. Enough said.
- August 28, 2008 at 9:04 AM
- Anonymous said...
I am a huge NASCAR fan. Howeer, I am alos a huge fan of the Olympics. I am still sleep deprived from watching so much Olympic coverage.
On Saturday, I taped the Bristol race and watched the Olympic coverage. Then on Sunday, I watched the Bristol race.
- August 28, 2008 at 11:22 AM
- Sharon said...
In Fontana we will see ESPN try to use the "excitment" of Bristol to infuse interest in the Cali race. I can hear Jerry Punch now....... The truth is there was no real race excitement, it was a post incident that got people's attention. That right there is sad.
- August 28, 2008 at 12:01 PM
- Anonymous said...
"The sad part is that no matter what they do the Shootout we all will still watch because it's the first "race" of the season and we will all be hungry."
I will NOT be watching the Shootout. Who wants to see a race that amounts to the Big 4 car owners against the back markers. (there is a chance that the 6th Toyota team selected will not even be in the top 35).
I will opt instead to watch some real racing at my local track.
- August 28, 2008 at 12:17 PM
- Anonymous said...
John, your headline states: Bristol TV Ratings Get NASCAR's Attention." Yet nowhere in your column do you say anything about what NASCAR is saying about the ratings. Have you talked with anyone at NASCAR about it? Are they upset? Or do you have an anonymous source inside NASCAR? Please clarify.
- August 28, 2008 at 1:33 PM
- Daly Planet Editor said...
Anon 1:33PM,
It must be hard to time-and-time again ignore participating in an on-going discussion and instead try to shoot the messenger.
How about returning and telling us your opinion of why the Bristol ratings were down? Two-groove track? Olympics? No wrecks?
This is the first race of the season to take a ratings hit like this and this column is a discussion about the reason why.
If you have an issue with me, please drop me an email at firstname.lastname@example.com and we can clear the air.
- August 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM
- Nicho said...
I'm not sure if most people were like me, but I knew coming into Bristol that most guys were going to take it easy because of Points Racing (except Edwards and Kyle). Add to that the issues with the car, and a multi-groove track, and I expected to see exactly what I saw, a race that was decent but not the usual bumping and banging that makes (made) Bristol Bristol.
Did anybody catch Jeff Gordon after the race (or maybe it was on one of the Nascar shows, I don't remember now). He basically said that he could have challenged Denny Hamlin for third, but didn't because they couldn't afford to do something and end up with a bad finish going into the Chase.
I still watched anyway, but probably won't watch California, except maybe by fast-forward on the DVR.
- August 28, 2008 at 4:12 PM
- Richard in N.C. said...
The new Shootout arrangement does add another set of races within the race. Besides the races to get into the top 12 and the top 35, now there will be the races to get into the manufacturers top 6. With a smaller field (24) and the first race of the year, I would expect there should be some sponsor pressure on teams to get into the Shootout.
- August 28, 2008 at 6:26 PM
- darbar said...
Are advertisers watching the ratings? We all know that their beloved demographic of 18 to 49 is the Holy Grail to advertisers. Does anyone know where we could go to get a breakdown of the age demographics for the Bristol race?
If ratings continue to slide, and I think that's coming because we're getting to football season, baseball playoffs and all that, I wonder if advertisers will put the screws to ESPN and Nascar for some changes? They certainly aren't getting the best band for their buck. And, how much power do the advertisers hold over Nascar? Can they demand a sit down and tell them that unless changes are made, they will no longer sponsor races? Could something like that ever happen?
As far as the Manufacturers Race, formerly known as the Bud Shootout, what about yelling and screaming from the sponsors for the cars that are shut out? Is that fair to them? I know it's only one race, and a non-points race at that, but I would bet that some contracts for race teams were signed with the belief that their cars were going to be in EVERY race, and not be shut out for silly rules changes.
- August 28, 2008 at 8:10 PM
- Adam T. Martin said...
It isn't the coverage that is the only culprit, it is the product.
- August 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM
- Anonymous said...
Bristol's not the only Cup race that's dropped in the ratings this year ... Add in Watkins Glen, Chicago and Sonoma ...
NBC tape delaying the "big" competitions from the Olympics to basically showing them a day late is part of what gave them high ratings ... Unless you're lucky enough to live near the Canadian border and had access to CBC, you were a day late & a dollar short because of NBC ...
I watched a LOT of the Olympics on CBC, but also on the US channels ... And I skipped most of the daytime stuff on Friday because I slept through it ...
Factors that contributed to lower ratings for Bristol Cup race: Olympics - most definitely; COT - yup (It wasn't any better when it was there before); Variable banking - Can't always pass other cars; Kyle Busch - Ding Ding Ding
Last year, Hendrick dominated ... with Jimmie winning 10 races (but at least he spread it out across the whole season) ... This year, Kyle had already 8 Cup wins after 24 races ... Throw in the Nationwide & Truck win ... After a while, it just gets to the point where it seems like nobody but Kyle (& now Carl) has a snowball's chance of winning ...
Some of us on the West Coast actually enjoy the night races ... that are run on the West Coast ... People in the East Coast time zone need to remember that the world does NOT revolve around them ... I like Fontana and the racing was pretty good back in Feb ... The weather's not supposed to be as warm this weekend compared to last year ...
Maybe the changes to the Bud Shootout were brought about by the apparent purchase of InBev ... Though, IF the sale goes through (which I hope it doesn't), InBev will try to weasel out of a LOT of the advertising contracts as that's their corporate MO ...
- August 28, 2008 at 10:40 PM
- Anonymous said...
You missed my point John. Your headline gives the impression you have spoken to NASCAR about the TV ratings. Obviously you haven't. I think the longer you are out there and somehow gaining more credibility, you need to watch every word that you publish. More eyes are dissecting your work and questioning what you say. I am not shooting the messenger, just holding you to a journalistic standard you are not accustomed to in the wild west of the internet blogs.
- August 29, 2008 at 7:00 AM
- Anonymous said...
Anon at 7:00am
I'm sure that such a drastic drop in the ratings would get Nascar's attention. As JD has said repeatedly, he is in communication with a lot of people "in the know" and I would see no reason to not believe the headline.
Regardless, a ratings drop is a ratings drop, and when it happens it should be brought up. If it was the olympics, fine, state your opinion that it was. If you believe it's the car, fine, say so.
That's the purpose of this site. And JD stated his opinion and everyone else has given theirs.
Well, except for you I guess.
- August 29, 2008 at 9:47 AM
- Anonymous said...
TV ratings? I think there is a very good chance that Edwards might show his Dark side again! (aka)Kenseth,before seasons end against Kyle in a very bad way..That may boost the ratings!!good luck Kyle...
- August 30, 2008 at 3:37 AM
- Anonymous said...
Regardless, a ratings drop is a ratings drop, and when it happens it should be brought up.
Yes but why is it that when ratings are up no one gives a hoot? Ive noticed a trend the past couple of years. NASCAR "Fans" seem to love it when something negative happens to NASCAR. Its like they want NASCAR to fail and fold over. I think its really said to see the loyalty of fans go down the crapper whenever something doesnt go their way in NASCAR....
- August 30, 2008 at 9:57 AM
- Anonymous said...
Regardless, a ratings drop is a ratings drop, and when it happens it should be brought up.
Yes but why is it that when ratings are up no one gives a hoot? Ive noticed a trend the past couple of years. NASCAR "Fans" seem to love it when something negative happens to NASCAR. Its like they want NASCAR to fail and fold over. I think its really said to see the loyalty of fans go down the crapper whenever something doesnt go their way in NASCAR....
- August 30, 2008 at 9:57 AM


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