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Previous thread: >>60801237Archives and other resources: https://pastebin.com/vrqYhnpu"I swear to fuck if someone makes one just as I do..." Edition
I fucking called it.Hit refresh in the catalog before posting, numbnuts.
>>60813057>"I swear to fuck if someone makes one just as I do..." EditionMine was 19 seconds later than yours, so I went ahead and deleted it.
>>60813057Anyone have a Kill la Kill CYOA?
>>60813094You are forgiven, Sir Numbnuts.This time.
>>60813101Sounds interesting. Design your own clothes/uniform and the shit it does based off clubs/personal skills.
>>60813087>>60813107I did actually hit refresh before posting. Multiple times, even: Before I prepared the text, before I did the captcha, and before I hit the "post" button.
What's with you dumb fucks and not creating a thread before the previous one dies?
Holy shit. I opened my browser to the Thread being archived, and when looking for new /cyoag/ nothing came up.I was worried the Thread was banned or something
>>60813122It's better than some idiot making a new thread on page 7
>>60813120I was hoping to also waifu the Nui.
>>60813122This, or opening a new Thread but forgetting to leave a link to it in the old Thread.
>>60801275Is Hilde, dare I say it, a worse love interest than your sister?
>>60808030>DeathsMy Dwarf Fortress games more often end do to lag from a massive population these days.
>>60813101Fuck that sounds great, you can design your own kamui, and there's definitely no shortage of pics for that.
>>60813184Have some OC
>>60813151She's just your regular yandere with a sword and army instead of just a knife. Plus you get to know all the people she murders.
>>60813206Rebel. Fuck this shitshow, this is just people refusing to be intelligent.
>>60813206That is no longer considered OC
Technically OC means Original Content?
>>60813206>posted in the prior thread>oc
>>60813281Technically north korea is a democratic republic.
>>60813206Reminder that katherine is the key for HIGH fantasy and she is also a cute that needs someone to trust
>>60813247Rebel is a non-option.
>>60813430There are no options, that's the point of that cyoa, its stupid.
>>60813430>Non option>Rebel is pretty much ''Yeah i know it has to go like this but i think it can do some tweaking here and there''Anon don't be dumb
>>60813206Kathetine a bestbest source, best route, best girl, best ending
>>60813206>1200x8400>One choice
>>60813430It's the only option worth picking.
>>60813476It has no structure within the context of the CYOA. No validity.
>>60813206You, lady, are a failure! First you abandon your duties and vows to elope with a man, then you abandon him and your daughter when they need you most, and now, at your daughter's time of need, you still try to distance yourself?! And then have the AUDACITY to beg me to not abandon your daughter if I choose to find a better solution than what you have found?!Fie to your game!Why do you wish to saddle me with only one party, when we could all help each other in this hour of need? Could we not all cover each others' shortcomings in the days to come?!>LarajeWhat she needs is a champion. A symbol of power and cruelty to balance out her symbol of peace and mercy. Who better than the symbol of humanity's strength Hilde?>ArarielShe has dreams, she has plans, and she is more than capable of taking action. But can she deal with the fallout if she succeeds, and the loss of hope if she fails?The first is apparently a yes, if your predictions are accurate why yes, I am in fact still salty but the loss of hope will break her. She needs mine and Katherine's support and promise that tomorrow is brighter thanks to her. Feathery wings are not what makes a good person, nor are they what enable them. Laraje can attest to that.>HildeLove would cause her to forget all else besides the object of her affection. But what if she loved multiple people of opposing sides and needs? What if she had to balance protecting me with not killing Laraje's subjects, keeping Katherine safe, and not making Arariel sad? Either she will go mad from the pressure, or she will start to emotionally mature.With Laraje, we have an army.With Arariel, we have hope.With Hilde, we have strength.With Katherine, we have a future.Come at us, angels, humans, and demons. We shall not roll over and accept our fates. We will gamble an improved future for a perfect one!
>>60813605>This option that confirms that future can be changed and that despite it being a complete an absolute gamble allows you to make a better ending if you play your cards right is not valid because i can't whine if i don't ignore it
>>60813662You sound like a cuck here since your entire plan is to get one of the girls to fuck all the others.
>>60813663>ConfirmsNo it's basically 'fanwank anything if you hate my cyoa.' It's no better than Sartre.
>>60813605And the cyoa has no options then, because its just a disruption of how fucked the place is and nothing you say is going to make a difference. Its not even a cyoa at that point, its just a story telling you what will happen.
>>60813714>reeee what do you mean a proper good end will require thought on my part, why cant I have things given to me on a silver platter
>>60813735The CYOA has no good ends.>>60813719It has options, they're just all bad ends.
>>60813705And the intellect of the thread drawn out in one sentence, congratulations. >>60813719a description* not disruption
>>60813719it is literally more of a cyoa that just about any other poster here, its more like what a proper CYOA is (picking options with outcomes) than any of the generic open ended power-pickers. First you pick the girl, with your choice having consequences for the rest of the world, then you can either pick to accept these consequences, reject the choice, or think of some other way to fix things>>60813755every ending in that CYOA is on a bare minimum level "good", each one of them fixes the issues affecting the setting at rather minimal loss- if you want a better ending you will have to think of a way of getting it, rather than whining that the CYOA doesent suck your cock enough
>>60813796We've already had this discussion about how your definition of 'good' is retarded, Gil.
>>60813101You do. In your head. So get off your fat ass and make it.
>>60813184Fuck off and make some. Goddamn leech.
>>60813874>Everything i don't like is a faggot
>>60813057white pawn every time
and then people wonder why most OC is generic power-wank/waifupickersbecause the moment someone releases something that doesn't stroke anons dick you get shitstorms about it being edgy and everything being awful
>>60813930Scottishanon cyoas are pretty popular though
>>60813909Gilposter is one of the genuine faggots though
>>60813909Nobody said that, you are just retarded gil.
>>60813946Speaking of which, can anyone repost Catacomb?
>>60813930nah, that oc is just bad an make you feel like shit, there are plenty of "dark" cyoa who don't go full edge that are really like in the thread.
>>60813930People would rather fantasize about happy things and not misery? Huh, weird.
Anyone have the tank girl crew cyoa, and the dlc?
>>60814002gil fuck off
>>60813206Reminder that the best option is taking>Katherineand carefully and intentionally emigrating to the demon realm to be Leraje's Chief of Research, bringing glory and security to them both while also mediating each of their flaws.
>>60813953im not "one of"- I am THE faggot>>60813874you could argue it again all you want, you will just be wrong both timesthat cyoa provides an ending that resolves either the settings issues or grants you a relationship and character resolves character issues AT BASE, if you want a better ending? one that lets you have your cake and eat it too? youre going to have to work for that shit- as it should be>>60814002you dont get to complain about cyoa being generic and bland from pandering to the lowest common denominator AND complain when something doesent pander to the lowest common denominator>>60814029thats not me
>>60814032You know the entire reason Leraje dies is because her people realize she likes humans, right? Anything involving you working with Leraje is going to get her executed by the other demons even if it would have benefited them because they are fucking retards.
>>60814055>you dont get to complain about cyoa being generic and blandI don't. I'm calling your position retarded because you are trying to spite human nature.
>>60814059They realize she likes humans and was acting to protect them in secret while at war. What if you were public about it, especially with Katherine's research? From Arariel's ending, most demons would actually jump at the chance to become angels again. If she could offer that through Katherine, she'd look like a hero instead of a traitor.
>>60814059she dies because they believe she became sympathetic to the enemy which was then used as a means of ousting her by people who wanted more powerthere are human defectors to the demon side after all (hilde route)>>60814094>you are trying to spite human natureno, im pointing out the hypocrisy of /cyoag/ complaining about samey wish fulfillment and generic shit while at the same time demanding that everything panders to the lowest common denominator
>>60814157This thread isn't a hivemind.
>>60814059>Implying the demons won't be willing to reconsider being friendly to humans if said friendliness brings them into a golden age of gladiator arenas, plentiful food, and pornography>Implying you couldn't just develop anti-demon weaponry to win all 1v1s against demonic challengers
>>60814212>golden age of gladiator arenas, plentiful food, and pornographyThe gods must be fought against>Implying you couldn't just develop anti-demon weaponry to win all 1v1s against demonic challengers>Inb4 anti-human weaponry
>>60814249I mean, the witch who's making said weapons has a vested interest in not making anti-human weaponry, so...
>>60814263If we are going to fight gladiatorial battles do it with some semblance of fairness otherwise it is fucking boring
>>60813705>get one of the girls to fuck all the others... wat? How would a girl fu*@ another girl?! That is not how the birds and the bees work!And why does everything have to be sexual?! You're like a worse fujoshi, projecting your fujoshit on everybody and everything!
>>60813335that's not what technically means?OC doesn't stop being OC when the author reposts it, it stops being new
>>60814321We wouldn't be fighting the gladiatorial battles; that would just be for the Wrath demons to get their rocks off without having an active war going.
>>60814332Cease your semantics for the purpose of discussion
>>60814369>Not fighting in the gladiatorial battles>He can't kill the opponent AND put up a really good showFaggot
>>60814331He literally said Hildre would love all the others.
>>60813930To be fair, many other cyoas don't give you any more power than a slightly better than average person has. What this one does however, is TELL you that no matter what you do, there is no hope.Like a wise man once said: "Anons would rather take 10 damage shooting themselves in the dick than 9 damage sleeping with a whore". If you TELL an anon that no matter their choices, they'll get a bad ending no matter what.Though the cyoa offers the "rebel" option, the damage is already done, and anons will start to feel hopeless. Laraje and Hilde show that we aren't really powerful. Arariel shows the power of love is the power of abandonment. Katherine shows that the mechanically best option causes your friends death or dishonor, and that no matter what you do, the demon problem can't be cured within your lifetime.tl;dr: don't come off as overly negative for the sake of it. If your cyoa has no bright spots AND doesn't give anons a fighting chance in the form of powers (such as this one does), then you should expect a lot of negative responses.
I'm currently making a demigod CYOA (inspired by pic related), and I was wondering what kind of mission a god could entrust to a demi-god in his service, other than simply propagating his cult and gathering new followers.
>>60814509I would disagree with you and call you a faggot but... You are right. And this is not the first time the author did this, pretty much all his CYOAs have the same thing in spades. Hopelessness.
>>60814509>is TELL you that no matter what you do, there is no hope.bur it doesent, there is a whole option about how you can reject the paths she gives you and do your own thing, you are only bound by your own assumptions of powerlessness>>60814546>inspired by pic relatedI see!>what missionslook to mythology
>>60814563Haha Time for Elf Bullying is the only one to not offer you an option though.
>>60814436Yes. Why should love be sexual. Can she not love them as friends? If I say I love my (grand)mother/sister, does that mean I wish to fu*@ them? If that is so, what about my father and bro(ther)? Why is loving my bro(ther) not a gay thing, but a girl loving her sis(ter) gay?!
>>60813206Purging filthy demons with my wife Hilde and retire to have many children with her? Fuck yeah
I also really like this one
>>60814630You can say fuck on the internet, nigger.
>>60814546Damn, forgot the picture.
>>60814630>Not wanting to fuck your sister
>>60814563This CYOA is different from the others he did, though, mostly because you have a narrator who at least claims to be omniscient telling you there's no hope, rather than the distinctly limited narrators (or second-person narration) he used previously.>>60814565It's not absolute, no, but you still have a narrator saying "I've looked into the future, and these are the best endings you can achieve. Yes, you die in half of them, what about it?"Kinda discouraging, no?
>>60814563Nah. To A New World offers you the choice to have a happy life with them. The only depressing thing is that you can't have an optimal fantasy life, but that doesn't stop you from enjoying normal life with them. There are even options that allow you to attempt to recapture some of the magic.This cyoa doesn't do any of that. No matter what choices you make (aside from Rebel and describe your own ending), you're damned to absolute sadness (unless you're a ball-less male who's okay with innocents dying and Hilde turning into a psychopath).>>60814565Read the rest.
>>60814688t.sisterless anon
>>60814688> not wanting to fuck your grandmother
>>60814718And done.
>>60813930This is unironically the most accurate post in the threadThe cyoa business has been infected with trash
>meme elves
>>60814693>"I've looked into the future, and these are the best endings you can achieve.She doesn't say that, she says these are the endings that are guaranteed to work. If you forge your own path, you might make things better than the options as presented, but you also might ruin the opportunity and make things much worse.
>>60814509>This is unironically the most accurate post in the thread>The cyoa business has been infected with trash
>>60814756>>60814790I come here to imagine imaginary women, not go on adventures. Hard to acknowledge that much, huh? Idiot. Not everyone will conform to your tastes.
>>60814693>but you still have a narrator saying "I've looked into the future, and these are the best endings you can achieve. Yes, you die in half of them, what about it?"but you dontyou have her going "I found these four ways for it to work", nothing else
>>60814805Do you even know what CYOA stands for?
>>60814705>All that you cherised and loved is fake>People from better worlds getting funneled in a borefest of mundanity >As pretty much a mirror of the current world is also an unfair world that will fuck you up for no reason if it feels like it>This world is probably fake too so if you get used to it haha sucks to be youThis was the worst cyoa it made in new one at least you don't feel the despair of EVERYONE that come out and will come out in the future
>>60814835Come getYourOwn dick sucked byA waifu
>>60814790I think you misquoted.Anyway, let's try to derail this shitstorm with another
>>60814904No. Stop.
>>60814852Thank you, anon
>>60814851>All that you cherised and loved is fakeIt's pretty explicitly an entire universe, not "fake" by any stretch of the imagination.
This thread is now a comfy foggy cyoa thread
>>60814867Give it to the shark.
>>60815007An entire universe that is fake what would be the reason to pull the plug and bring you back here otherwise?
>>60814835Do you even know how this genre started? Not with adventures, I assure you. More like 'pick this magic item' and 'press this button' and 'choose this 3DPD'.
>>60815049Is there anyone evil enough to deny the shark the flute he needs?
>>60814705Normal life is utterly joyless, though.
>>60814376the entire discussion is semantics...
>>60815136Only if you choose it to be.
>>60815197No, that's just how it is innately.
>>60815037>comfy foggy cyoa threadSo be it.
What the heck.
>>60813930>Reptilian>AbilitiesIncrease StrengthIncreased DefenseEnhance SensesTentacles>Boss PerksEnhance StrengthEnhance DefenseEnhanced RegenerationBio-MissilesElectric DischargeBand of Mooks>DrawbacksBudget RangersDark HeroExposure
>>60813206This is a good CYOA and will be a source of shitposting in the future by anons who don't realize that it's about fucking fate in the ass, nice job anon.
>>60815609Except its not, it is explicitly made and says that there is no actual choice in it.
>>60815669You're a seer, >>60815609.
>>60813057> White Pawn, Black Knight, PromotionUse Black Knight powers and those acquired from White Pawn missions to continually improve myself and make up for what I'm missing out with the other powers, give White Pawns and Black Knights to my friends via Promotion.
I think regardless of the content giving you one choice and one option within that choice that actually gives the reader any input is kind of straining the definition of "cyoa"
>>60814509>Cheap Apartment>Bizarre>Finger>PowersTrue SightUnsettlingHealing Touch>ArtifactsCurse - EaterDjinni Rings>AlliesSophia Eklund>CaseThe Man in the Cracks
>>60815921Which gets invalidated when it also says in the same cyoa that any choice you make was predetermined and functionally pointless. Its a shit prompt at best, pretending otherwise is asinine.
>>60815921Same amount as any waifupicker.
>>60815963Less actually, at least the waifupickers have some effort in them and it doesn't retroactively remove them.....most of them anyways. Some are equally as shit.
>>60816002>, at least the waifupickers have some effort in them>pick an onahole>effortkek
>>60816115>Reducing all waifus to ''onahole''kek
>>60813206People complain about you not having a fighting chance in this CYOA, but even without any proper plan, or just refusing the opportunity given by Katherine's mother, I still think you have a better chance of fixing things than, let's say, Resonator CYOA (if you take the description of the Endbringers into consideration). Yet people in general have no problem with Resonator CYOA. >>60811387Author, could you tell what problems you foresaw that my plan didn't cover? I imagined there would be many of them - after all it was only a sketch of a plan, my hope was mostly that the four girls could correct my mistakes, since they seem much more capable than me. Still, I would like to know what would be the main things that the "sketch" didn't cover.I would also like to know what was the original solution to the CYOA that you had in mind, but if you prefer not to divulge it, or only do so in the future (since the CYOA is still so new), I understand. I also have one question that's probably very dumb, but my autism compels me: Lejare became close to me when she found dreams of heroic adventure instead of lewd thoughts. Would she be disapointed or against lewd action in our new relationship? (Like fall-from-grace, the celibate succubus from planescape torment)Lastly, I said that what I thought was lacking in the CYOA was more lore. I still believe it, but even more so than before: I think it would be better put "useless" information from the lore, and have a difficulty finding what's useful in a mass of information, than trying to extract the useful information from very little exposed lore. Also because some information that you might consider useless might end up being useful for some anon that had a different thought process. But I'm not an author, so you should take my perception with a grain of salt.
>>60813206>Accept: Arariel route.Outcome: One chick who is clearly out of my league sacrafices herself consentually, something she planned to do before she even met me. As a result a massive, brutal war is ended with:1. One side largely redeemed with a minority feeling a bit conflicted.2. One person reduced to a transient working class existence with a bit of unneccessary class-guilt.3. One person getting depression.That's possibly the best resolution to a major conflict I've ever seen in a CYOA. It's not an unpleasant choice at all. Where do I sign?This is an interesting piece. Not exactly conventional. Kind of reminds me of Richard Merryweather CYOA.Thanks a lot for making it, the medium benefits a lot from experiments like this.
>>60815139why would I want to protect someone else's smile? When am I gonna find someone to protect my smile, damn it?
>>60816126most waifupickers are very much "pick X pretty anime lady to suck your dick for the rest of your life"and the ones that arent are what you're complaining about
>>60813057White PawnBlack KnightEn Passant
>>60816127the future seer is the reason, as long as you haven't seen the future and decide that THE ONLY CHOICES THAT ARE SURE TO SUCCEED, fuck you up tremendously there and endless fountain of hope to draw from, regardless of how big the threat is. Otherwise, it feel like you are fighting a losing battle, regardless of how small the threat actually is.
>>60816168>most, Only if you take all your picks from trash. You are full of shit otherwise.
>>60816168>The cyoa ties to A New WorldYou bastard...
>>60816260right, lets go through some of the more famous waifupickers then shall we?>war of the zodiac bridespick a number of pretty anime girls to suck your dick and get magical powers>the italics onespick a pretty anime girl to suck your dick>branching heartspick a monstergirl to suck your dick>any of the waifu-buildersbuild a pretty anime girl to suck your dick
>>60813057Hmmm. If we give a copy of the Black King powers to someone, can they copy our mind for us?
>>60816318>STILL reduces it to onaholes
>>60816212I have a very different perception of the CYOA. The future seer looked in some futures, not all, and from the one she saw, those were the best results.But they were not all futures.And beyond that, all those futures she saw, the "you" didn't have knowledge of these possibles other futures. The moment she contacted you, the futures that she saw changed, except if you somehow tried really hard to act in a way that you would without knowledge from the future. That is, that this is NOT the case of a self-fulfilling prophecy.And if it was in those 4 nodes, there would still be other nodes.In practice she only tells you 4 ways things doesn't work.
>>60816329>STILL has no argument
>>60816318>being this blatantly full of shit.I can't believe I fell for the bait. Goddammit now I look like a moron.
People who bitch about waifu cyoas are literally homosexuals.
>>60816346except I do, the sum of most waifupickers is deciding which of the presented chicks you will stick your dick into, its just picking an onahole- you have yet to refute thisthe ones that offer something more are like the one you are complaining about
>>60816396not an argument
>>60816419I accept your concession
>>60816383>Implying I'm the other dudebaka desu sempai>>60816412Neither is your tragedy boner.
>>60816447stop feeding the idiot you retard
>>60816336maybe, I'm just saying the I, and according to the shit storm, a lot of other anons saw things. i don't really like when cyoas make things work in a certain way in the future as it feel like I'm not in control an limits the imagination, but that's a personal preference.
>>60816447>Neither is your tragedy boner.the CYOA you are complaining about puts the focus on the outcomes relative to the world, as well as considering four character endings at the same timethis is indeed more than just picking which girl to fuck based on whichever one is best tailored to your fetishes
Anons... None of the conflicts on the cyoa matter the reality the setting is set is a simulation from >>60814705
>>60816486As are all the ones you mentioned in your "shitty waifu cyoas list" besides the generic waifu builders.
>>60816464Fair. I'm just surprised the thread has swallowed the same bait 4 times that I 'member.
>>60816515except they arent, the emphasis in every one of those is on who you fuck- everything else is window dressing
>>60816537Yeah you are full of shit.
>>60816268wait, did the creator say this?
>>60816576The clues are there anon look at it
>>60815225>Architectural StyleHellenic Seaside>ClimateMediterranean >Geographical FeaturesPlainsRolling HillsWoodlandsVolcanoBeachfrontRivers>Living AccomodationsTower Lodge>Residence LocationFar Outskirts>ItemsShiny MarbleFur Mantle Pale Ring>Village BordersThe High Walls>OccupationGuardsman>Village Highlights The Old CastleGalaxy LakeSiren OverlookPrimeval ForestBlossom MeadowFairy GroveHealing Spring>Village GuidesChristmas CakeLonely Monster>Uneasy PeculiaritiesRuined Cathedral Wandering God
>>60814509Negative responses is better than no responses at all. As an artist or a writer, the absolute worst thing that can happen is that someone sees your work and feels only apathy, forgetting about it a little bit later.I'm not saying become ShindoL, but tragedy exists for a reason, and some people enjoy reading those sorts of stories. People want to feel something, anything.
>>60813930>because the moment someone releases something that doesn't stroke anons dick you get shitstorms about it being edgy and everything being awfulNo thats because they're all same generic superpower or power armor garbage in different colors. Waifushit has more variety despite being plagued with stereotypes and weebshit. No one stops you from making or reposting other cyoas, it's not our fault they're so boring no one gives a fuck about them.
>>60817304I do believe you missed the context of this>>60813206
>>60817258Funnely enough i love how shidoL does vanilla but I abhor the rest of his works not the guy you are talking to btw, but yeah take the criticism with a grain of salt, a lot of it came from people fighting with gil. Tho i still think it's too dark for my tastes.
>>60817398That's possible
>>60813057White Queen/Black Rook/Promotion>immortal>invincible>physically perfect>godlike power, the world gives me what I want or else>offer ageless physical perfection to anyone who serves me>they must also take female forms>limit initial gifted power to agelessness, offer greater physical prowess as reward for serviceCadre of immortal women who have to do whatever I want or lose everything, take yearly payment from UN to NOT use my powers recklessly, live forever, use perfect mind and perfected minds of now-female scientists to advance technology and colonize the galaxy. There is no reason to choose any other combination.
>>60816536We have had several threads wort of shitstorms caused by the mere mention of an unfinished cyoa witches you shouldn't be surprised at our stupidity.
>>60817643>things /cyoag/ has shitstorms aboutcommunismislamfatewitchesmagicantimagicwaifupickerscyoa that doesent suck the players dickdesign philosophyavoid these and youre fine
>>60817634Black Queen and White Rook might be better. Have a harem of 10/10 girls who will do anything for you, then give out White Rook powers once a day. Within a few decades, every city has enough that they are basically utopia.
>>60817747Change witches with italics and it's pretty accurate.
>>60813057>white pawn >black queen >promotion
>>60813057Does illegal promotion work temporarily? kind of forgot what cake said.
I'm tired of the morton's fork discussion
>>60817842then post OC you nigger
>>60817842We will talk about it once we have more oc.
>>60817842then provide something more worthy of discussion
>>60817842We could repost PPPP or PPP+.
is tok dead? he hasn't posted in a while and never mentioned the oc he had coming.
not mine, but were Soul Weapon or divine Pretender ever posted here?
>>60817991One can only hope
>>60817991Yeah, I have no idea where he is . Maybe he is gone for goo which is excellent. but I kind of miss him tho
>>60818045>spoilerWhy? he doesn't even make content anymore
>>60813206I don't get it. Hilde is literally the only option that gives you a happy ending. Why are there even ither options to begin with? Picking any other ends with them dying, while Hilde is the only waifu. How is this a waifu picker? Hell, how is this even a CYOA? "Choose this girl or pick a girl who'll just fucking die".
>>60818120He did do that mistress cyoa and had a robot one and a kingdom defender one i was looking forward too.
>>60818151Don't bother even if they survived they probably are not even real to begin with
>>60813094I really enjoyed this one. Thank you
>>60818151>Hilde is literally the only option that gives you a happy ending>what is katherine
>>60818196>live on the run>eventually get killed by angels>no happiness, she's just an autist working to solve someone else's problems till both of you dieReal happy ending right there
>>60818196>life on the run vs. peaceful life with waifu after putting demon sympathizing shits to the sword
>>60818258>>60818264>life on the runliterally just kill the angels/take the revolt option and work for the proper good end by arming the demons with powerful magic
>>60818286>not invading heaven with hilde after dealing with the demonsEARTH FOR HUMANS
>>60817842>discussionIt's hardly that, it's just a bunch of triggered anons who can't handle a cyoa where everything doesn't go smoothly in the end.
>>60818302The angels did nothing wrong it is the gods who are dicks
>>60818302>not killing everyone who stands in the way of your adorable witch waifus science
>>60818286The options at the end of the CYOA are a cop out that basically just say "choose whatever you want" which is lazy, and well, not even a real option. In that case I just become some War Gid and take all the girls as my harem members and conquer the multiverse while I'm at it. Wow, how fun. See? That "option"invalidates the entire CYOA
>>60817842Then ignore it? Like, nigga just don't read, like nigga just close your eyes lmao
>>60818339>Thinks that the option allows you to invoke sartre with impunityAre you retarded?
>>60813248OC=Original content If the maker of the CYOA is posting it it is their Original content it has nothing to do with how old it is you fucking moron
>>60818339>choose whatever you wantno, its "dont follow the given plan"you get given four possible chains of events which "work" and can either pick from them, not pick at all, or try something else
>>60818376Nope it's not OC
>>60818372How is that not pulling a Sartre? >hur durr just kill the angels and the demons and solve everything with the power of MAGIC man definitely not a sartre btw all the girls are sucking my dick right now fuck the options lol
>>60813328see >>60818376>>60818397How is it not OC if its being posted by the original creator of the original content?
>>60818405oh no it's retarded
>>60818379Not picking at all invalidates the entire CYOATrying something else is pulling a Sartre, leave it to your "imagination"
>>60818428How about you tell me why I'm wrong, genius?>muh hurr he's wetaded hurr lmao wtf lol
>>60818405>kill the angelsdemons are fallen angels, you can kill demons>>> you can kill angels>solve everything with magicso something that CAN actually be done in cannon, but done in a more effective manner thanks to meta-knowledge gained from the narrator?the optimal end was figured out very early on, and uses only what is offered within the CYOA, and was approved by the author themselves>>60818463because see above
>>60818339The cyoa gives you the option for hope if you refuse such an option it shows that you're either happy with the other options or you do not have any hope that you could find a solution, to the problem that you know all about.You just have to use all the pieces that you learned and put it together to make your own good ending. It's a wild card option it's your choice to take it or not.
>>60818427Definitely not OC
>>60818477Then it really is a Sartre. The optimal ending is "just use clearly undefined magic to do whatever the fuck you want". Also, when does it say that demons are as powerful as angels? Even though they're fallen angels, they're very different in terms of species, and some are extremely weak, like when Leraje was young. Angels on the other hand ,from what is presented in the CYOA, are pretty much homogenous, and are presented as the ultimate threat for Katherine, basically spelling her doom, much more dangerous than demons or humans. Also, one angel sacrificing herself pretty much changes the world
>>60818595>ust use clearly undefined magic to do whatever the fuck you wantno its "help a character achieve the defined goals they have and achieve what they have been stated to be able to do"
>>60818595The cyoa wasn't made to show how cool this magic system is, it gives you four choices on the future of this world, gives you all what you need to know about the politics surrounding these choices and the characters who embody them. Then it says, okay you can use these choices to solve the conflict in different ways but will lead to not everybody being happy, OR you can use all the information that you've learned to carve a new path for this world, for better or for worse.
>>60813206This generated a lot more discussion than I thought it would. I'll guess I'll go over some quick things that stuck out. I definitely went too far with leaving things open-ended, I wanted to allow for as many possible solutions as possible but it would have been better to provide more structure. Likewise, it would probably have been better to put more emphasis on the narrator's perspective and limits in the intro, as apparently that was confusing. It's always just the one character speaking, so first person telling you current information about others, and in the ending routes she switches to predictions and hypotheticals.>>60816127Not too much, you were pretty comprehensive. Mostly minor things like how no longer having support from the church and angels might affect Katherine's research, as any angel who supports you is going to become a demon. But it's like you said very hard to currently separate relevant details from flavortext, so I don't think it's worth going into. The details you find relevant for your solution are the most important ones. I probably won't give out the solution, since I'm pretty sure the reaction from most would be "how was I supposed to guess that?" But you touched on a bunch of the most significant portions. Leraje is a succubus at heart, so it's not like she would have been disappointed by encountering a lewd fantasy. She was just extremely enchanted by the world she saw, since two minutes beforehand she was stuck starving in a world that didn't care about her. She'd have nothing against lewdness. Hope you enjoyed it.>>60814509>>60814563>>60817258I think trying to protect a candle from going out in the wind is interesting. Optimism in an optimistic world is easy, cynicism in a cynical world is easy, but how do you find optimism in a cynical world? It has to be a conscious choice, one I find admirable. I totally get that it's not a perspective many people like though.
>>60813206>first time seeing this>got all excited thinking it would be some demonic kingdom builder where you marry the queen but have to manage the kingdom and your unruly avaricious nobles>instead its just another of whatshisface's second person thought experiment thingsW H YH Y
>>60814671Holy fuck dude
I WILL write a build for this eventually.
>>60815609>One choice out a dozen 'denies' fate>It's totally about that one choice guys
>>60817751Black Queen includes unwanted physical changes based on what society thinks is ideal, and comes with no other abilities. White Queen gives pinnacle human traits in every way, mental and physical. White rook offers no offensive ability, no way to profit save by being paid to live somewhere specific.
>>60818844Hope must be present in the first place for that to work. You are the absolute worst person here at giving off even the faintest sense of hope in your works, and thus you fail.
One thing I noticed, pretty much the only person defending this CYOA is Gil. 90% of the conversation is people hating it and Gil defending it and getting those people to argue with him. Truly he's nothing but a shitposter.
>>60819112Dude. He's just a kid. A very vocal underaged kid.
>>60819149Most shitposters are, desu.
>>60819112No it's not, and it doesn't benefit any discussion just to boogeyman all of the opinions that aren't yours as this one guy.The shitposter is you, stop being a homo fag.
>he doesn't pick healing whenever it's available
>>60819149And still puts in more effort than most cyoa authors
>>60819112>despite having multiple people who liked it, everyone who disagrees with me must be gil!
>>60819193>Lying contrarianevery time
>>60819211>Needing healing
>>60819245You're a real shitposter, here take this (you).Hope you choke on it.
>>60818844>I think trying to protect a candle from going out in the wind is interesting. Optimism in an optimistic world is easy, cynicism in a cynical world is easy, but how do you find optimism in a cynical world? It has to be a conscious choice, one I find admirable. I totally get that it's not a perspective many people like though.No, you're misunderstanding. We do like that perspective. But we like to actually have it, instead of someone just telling us "the best you can do is fail, there is no hope" and insisting that marching to your doom with a smile is the same thing as optimism.
>>60819018Our saviour, our master. He will show us the light
>>60819271>we Speak for yourself.
>>60818045>gone for gooGiven the CYOAs up for discussion lately, this typo pleases me.
>>60813206And still nobody gets the reference?Well played, anon.
>>60819282Ah you were at my side all along, my true mentor, MY GUIDING MOONLIGHT.
>>60819112no bulli gil-kun
>>60819271>"the best you can do is fail, there is no hope"The person who told you that abandoned her daughter immediately after birth because she gave up.
>>60813946The best ones are still the guardians series which is a bit of a power wank.
>>60819307>rapehorse noises transform into human gruntsIt felt like being the bad guy of an anime after the protagonist just got a power up.
>>60813930How do you get to "hidden boss" level? The version I have saved only went to final.
>>60819322She also has foresight good enough to perfectly predict the end results of your actions.
>>60818844I know my solution (Bringing Catherine under the protection of Leraje in exchange for prosperity) was questioned by some anons; would it be feasible to bolster Leraje's popularity with advancements (and maybe specialized weapons to smack a bitch in duels), allowing her to just... wind the war down?
>>60819245>contrarian>"my opinion is the commonly accepted one because I said so"
Gil is actually correct about the CYOA.I have spoken.
>>60819112I'll defend it, fight me.
>>60819439Read nigger, read!
>>60819377And so is the Forces of Darkness counterpart, so it works out as just applying the same principles to a higher power level.Guardians is the perfect example of what this CYOA tried to do*, presenting a bleak situation that could be turned around by a few brave souls*I say "tried to do" but I'm thinking this is just an elaborate troll. By definition Morton's Fork is a false dilemma where contradictory evidence leads to the same conclusion
Hi from /d/
>>60819468That this CYOA is pure faggotry?wew who knew
>>60819439>>60819485legit it's worth it
>>60819489what no>>60813796 is correct, and he has my seal of approval. You may all settle down now.
>>60819468I feel this way too but that means I'd have to agree with Gil so I will instead just say that any OC is good OC.
>>60819488>from /d/Here's the /tg/ original.1/3
>>60819397Either Gigantism or "you don't; the Dark Hero just has +1 in every stat compared to you"
>>60814670I remember this! Good times.
>>60819489where's your OC fag
>>608195343/3This page was small enough for /d/ and /trash/ to begin with.
>>60819112>everyone is Gil
>>60819487So the name calls attention to the fact that you'll fail no matter what?
>>60819402She's telling you that if you follow this path, you will end up solving the problem. For example, in Leraje's ending, she only knows that "eventually" you'll be found out (remember she is busy being the Demon Queen, dealing with her underlings and so on) but not when, and she also mentions that she can't see everything. So, for example, what would happen if you were to use one of Katherine's looking glasses instead of being there physically? Maybe you'd be found out, maybe not, all she knows is that it doesn't surely lead to the end of the war. However I don't think it was communicated well, so I understand your objection.>>60819407Sounds plausible. I'm open to a very wide variety of solutions, as long as you can justify them with what you know.>>60819487>thinking this is just an elaborate trollNo, the name refers to the fact that all the paths as presented lead to peace at a large cost. You have to move beyond the choices as presented to you by the narrator to get an unambiguously good ending.
>>60814688Fuck off Soria, you a shit
>>60819598She's showing that she has near perfect foresight and then tells you outright she saw no other victories. So there's no expectation that you'll somehow defy her statements which are, to the majority of readers, represented as absolute fact.
>>60819534>>60819552man this is some weird shit, how the fuck do you even develop a giant woman fetish
>>60819677>tells you outright she saw no other victories.no, they are the only solutions which work 100% of the time
>>60819683Why not?
>>60819677Yeah, this was probably my biggest failure in communication. She doesn't present to you the only four victories that are possible, she shows you the only four victories where victory is guaranteed. If you stick to the path, you get an ending where the fighting stops for sure, at some cost. If you stray from the path, you might fail, but you might succeed without paying the cost, or at least paying much less. This is stated in the text, but probably should have been repeated.
>>60819683Like most fetishes it's hard to explain, like I have no idea how people like guro. I try to think maybe it's their most precious parts that they want kept hidden leaking out or maybe it's TRUE SADISM, but alas I still can't fully comprehend it.For me I like girls who are taller than me, I also like excess of things I like, so giant women is a natural conclusion.
>>60819677In the rebel option the narrator says:"These are the few solutions THAT I CAN SEE that have a DEFINITIVE chance of succedding. I CAN'T SEE EVERYTHING, but..."I have the impression that at least 50% of the people complaining about the CYOA are just trolling or have some problem of reading comprehension...Of course, there are many valid criticism against the CYOA, but that's a minority of what is being said.
>>60819811Happens, remember the shit that the divine trials anon got when he made the second version of his cyoa?
>>60819830No. I didn't went to /trash/ at the time because I didn't think there was anything worth it there. (In the beggining it was mostly the case, but I would say that changed, divine trials being one prime example). Could you tell what happened?
>>60813206What other cyoas have you made?
>>60813206How do I win this?
>>60819916pick katherine
>>60819811The final text on the CYOA gives you a 'I haven't seen anything contradicting me but maybe!' that certainly does not get across any feeling of hope after the rest of it.
>>60819916Rebel and be clever.
>>60819873To put it in the most basic of basic elements, divine trials anon had a, potential ending, segment of his cyoa with all the fun you could have with the gods you made a deals with, your adversary, and yourself. This was all told by a mysterious character you haven't met until then. Then after that the mystery character reveals all the bad ends that your character could end up in if they were to fail, which at the end hints that she's fucking with you to get your nerves up for when you face the challenge. This was the intention of DT anon, however just like this thread anon didn't take it the right way and believed that the cyoa doomed your character to fail no matter which caused DT anon to create another page to clarify his message better.Also:>I didn't think there was anything worth it there.There really isn't, most of the oc comes from reddit. The threads only survived for this long because tok was the main provider of cyoa to the thread. DT anon was a miracle but don't expect such miracles to happen often.Now since Tok is gone there's no oc other than from off-site places (and rare authors). There being no moderation also makes the undesirable numerous in the community to make matters worse.
>>60819885Salvage, To A New World, Haha Time for Elf Bullying
>>60820003Senpai don't present it like that. The bad ends weren't presented as 'could haves' they were presented as absolutes where the prior good endings had been lies and she's pulling back the curtain for a bad end. The presentation came across like this was the absolute truth and a TON of people reading it, maybe the majority, got that impression. Don't sit there and misrepresent the problem like the bad end section had been presented with more ambiguity than it was.
>>60820017>Salvagesee, thats the one I can understand if people used the "no winning it sucks regardless" onbut they didnt, at least as far as i can remember
>>60819934It may not give a feeling of hope, but surely doesn't mean that hope is absurd. It's not a directly comfy happy CYOA, you are right, but surely it allows room for hope. More than that, it was intentional:>>60818844>I think trying to protect a candle from going out in the wind is interesting. Optimism in an optimistic world is easy, cynicism in a cynical world is easy, but how do you find optimism in a cynical world? It has to be a conscious choice, one I find admirable. I totally get that it's not a perspective many people like though.And while this may not appeal to everyone, it surely has some appealing aspects:>>60815609(altought in this case it's not even about fighting "fate", it's just about having more determination and hope than the woman narrator that is a fallen angel that abandoned her daughter. And the situation doesn't even seem all that impossible to correct in itself, compared to many recently well recevied CYOAs, like the last 2 about mechas from lone observer)
>>60813930Avian formExtra limbs (for gargoyle-like shape),Camouflage,RegenProjectile attacks (shoots arrow-like feathers out of his body)Budget RangersMagical GirlsNosy ReportersEnhanced defense for high defenseEnhanced speed for incredible speedShadow step for backup plansNightmare embodiment for fear factorBand of mooks: a creepy-cute catgirl with claws for natural weapon, a super-strong, brutal but dumb lizardman, a shy poisonous spider guy, and a birdgirl with a crush on me who would constantly get defeated in battles and then stay in hospital recovering with her enhanced regen. And a couple more monsterguys and monstergirls who will die quick and easy at the hands of magical girls and rangers until this team of four enter the battle.Season 1: deal with reporters - one gets butchered by the lizard guy. Another starts digging but gets poisoned by spider's undetectable venom - public will believe it was heart attack. Third one begins his own investigation and ends up in an asylum, catatonic for the rest of his life. His unpublished article is dismissed as writing of a madman.Season 2: the rangers appear. They defeat the birdgirl twice, kill several redshirts, then get killed one by one. by the final boss who is deceptively tough, too scary and too quick for them.Season 3: a magical girl team join the battle. They kill all the new redshirts successfully, defeat the birdgirl twice, Kill the lizardman, then kill the catgirl, but she manages to tear one of them apart. Almost kill the birdgirl, but I evacuate her. Then I use my camouflage abilities to track the magical girls fown and kill them one by one. The last sidekick magical girl dies from poison after defeating the spider guy. The boss magical girl meets me in the final battle. Filled with grief, she almost defeats me - fall back, regroup, regen, get her by surprise, scare her, dodge her attacks, wound her with feather arrows, and kill her as she writhes in fear.Happy end.
>>60820003Don't forget that the imports are all shit too. It's dead.
>>60820059It does mean hope is absurd since you are denying the word of a precog who has been presented as absolute up until now and whose definitive predictions have been premonitions made up 90% of the text.Don't use out of CYOA shit to justify in-CYOA wording either. The presentation was a failure. He acknowledges that. I know well what his intent is but the entire point is that the CYOA does not show it whatsoever.
>>60820032The three comments made by the mysterious narrator implied that it was the case she was fucking with you. If you ignore those comments made by her then yes I agree but that's the fault of the reader.
>>60813206Reading Katherine ending in Leraje's route, is really implied that the reality this CYOA takes place could be a simulation just like in >>60814705 but is it really a simulation?
>>60820081I and most other people who read it did not get that implication. It relies on you reading it a very specific way which, as was shown, most people do not. It sounded like mockery to the majority of readers, as the numerous argument showed.
>>60819054Yeah, but spread White Rook around enough and mankind is now living in a utopia. You can easily make shitloads of money from it if you have promotion. Have a city pay you a certain amount per year to have you give them a citizen that has it. Now do this for every city and nation. You are now the richest man in the planet, and you have singlehandedly all but ended crime, accidents and disease. This is the sort of thing that can get religions founded that worship you.Also, it comes with the ability to get anyone attracted to you to do whatever you want. It also makes you revert to your ideal state if ever removed from it.
>>60820017>Salvageha! I remember my build for that one before the price nerf. Con a sucker for 300 money, get the pills, and make to the wastelands with my bots.I have enjoyed "cheating heinously" at your CYOAs, sir.
>>60820099I guess I and a few others had the same eyes as the author than. I guess the author does need to spell it out a bit just to get everyone on the right track.
post very old waifucyoas
>>60820080You are not denying the word of a precog. To deny it would be to choose one of the 4 standart choices, acted as she said you would, and expect a diferent ending. Those 4 choices are the ones that are the ones that SHE CAN SEE that have a DEFINITIVE chance of success.And this means that:1) There can be "choices" that she can see that MAYBE can succed, but isn't definitive.2) There can be "choices" that have a definitive chance of success, but she can't see.3) There can be "choices" that MAYBE can succed but she can't see.And in particular we know that there are choices that she can't see the outcome.And all this is told in the first paragraph of the "rebel' option.Finishing reading the set up for the CYOA, when asked what you will do, unless you are fine with one of those 4 endings, the natural place to look will be the "rebel" option, and this information will be in the first paragraph you will read.If the author wished to change how this information was presented, it's more a consequence of /cyoag/ having members with problems of reading comprehension than it being a bad stylistic choice itself.
>>60820198>filenameWrong.Celt best girl.
>>60820232This post smells funny
>>60820206>And all this is told in the first paragraph of the "rebel' option.After the rest of the CYOA built up her authority. Are you ignoring what people are telling you or what?
>>60820261and then she herself stated that she isnt omniscient
>>60820083You can take it like that if you'd like.>>60820131Thanks, anon. "Cheat" builds are my favorite.
>>60820261But if is HERSELF that says that she can't see everything. By trusting her authority, you should trust that there are options beyong what she saw that could give hope.
>>60820282Anon I don't understand why it's so hard for you to get that 90% of the content of the CYOA being contradicted by the last few lines is not going to make a strong impact on the readers to the point where they disregard that 90%.
>>60820059The mecha CYOA doesn't deign to tell you the future.
>>60820297The hope here that was intended to be seen was in everybody's circumstances. Leraje went from a starving, nameless low-tier demon to Demon Queen. Arariel isn't allowed to do as much as she wants to help, but she's going to loophole anything she can to improve the world. Hilde went from an implied abusive background to the greatest knight of all humanity. Katherine was an abandoned orphan, but she's on track to getting world peace. It isn't a sure thing for any of them, they've sacrificed much to get there and everything can come crashing down around them at any time. It often does. But they keep protecting that candle, because what's the alternative? Do you accept the lot in life that's given to you, to you reject it and curl up in a ball of despair, or do you rebel?
>>60820328The past isn't presented as an example for the future, anon.
>>60820017Thanks. Adding it to your Unknown Creator 13 folder.
>>60820297But you are not suppose to disregard the rest of the CYOA. You are suppose to build up from there. You are suppose to use the knowledge from those 4 nodes to see if you can find a better one. The tone of bleakness is still suppose to be there, but the space for hope too. This isn't a contradiction, it's intentional as I have linked the posts earlier.
>>60820354Er unnamed creator 13 folder.
Kudos to the fantasy waifu maker author.There's nothing greater than seeing nerd's rage overt the fact they can't fuck a fictional character the way they want.
>>60820319No, but the endbringgers seems like a problem much bigger and harder to deal with than the war in Mordon's Fork.
>>60820297its not contradicting the cyoaif you stand in a dark room, but find a single beam of light- that light doesent make the room bright, but it does mean that there is a way out
>>60820367Someone explained this to you earlier. Anons will have more hope if you don't try and tell them what WILL happen.
>>60820366jokes on you, I got my fetish basically handed to me on a silver platter
>>60814867I would give this flute to the shark, then organize a master class where child B teached A and C how to make a flute - now each of them has a flute. Then I'd organize a master class whete child A teaches B and C how to play the flute. Now each of them has a flute they can play. Then I'd organize a concert of a children't flute band with a cool laser show, and make money for myself, all three children, and the legshark.
>>60820386I'm happy for you.
>>60820355>The postsWow you keep using his statements like they reflect on how the CYOA is designed. Do you know nothing of design and presentation?
>>60820366Nobody has talked about sex though?
>>60820354Thanks, Mega Anon.
>>60820384I understand. But there is a difference between an anon feeling hopeful and there being theorical space for hope. The intention was to create a scenario that favors cynism over hope, while yet giving space for hope, and it did succeed in it.>>60820399They reflect how was the intention of the design of the CYOA. I use them just to confirm that it was intentional - that the CYOA have a bleak vibe yet there is hope in it can be confirmed by just seeing the CYOA itself.
>>60820513>anon feeling hopefulIt's a fantasy game, not reality. This is the part that really matters.
>>60820039Other than >>60820131 apparently there was a lot of screeching at v 1.0 of salvage, to the point where the price of all the items was dropped drastically ( I think mostly cut in half) in an update, after which anons felt a little better about being able to stabilize by the rules.
>>60820521There is more feelings that a CYOA can give than hopefulness, and these feelings doesn't need to be imediate as you read the text.Again:>>60815609Honestly, the more and more I see people complaining about this, the more I think the author did a good job in this aspect of the CYOA at least.
I'm gonna post it cause I like it and it's not in the thread
Did the anon who was working on Hero Academy x Magic Academy cyoa die?What about that other one who was doing a cyoa about 'irl' yanderes?
>>60820554Nobody plays these for edgy tragedy, anon.
>>60820394Now that's thinking like a capitalist.
>>60814852Is this the same author as guardians? I really like this guy. Is there a page with all of this guys' CYOAs?
>>60820422It's metaphorical sex. Fantasy fuel. Escapism>I-I don't want to feel miserable.These cunts can't understand people might like escapist media in a way that isn't a cheap feel-good powertrip.Sometimes I play games and watch movies to be scared. Sometimes to "feel bad" and make me look at life in a new light. "Depressing CYOA" (lmao nigga it's just text) are legitimate and have the right to exist
>>60818920>Demigod Import+15 Divinity>Four-Person Family>Masculine129 Divinity for MC, 80 for family>Resurrection -5>Aspect: CreationConstruction, Birth, Hope, Faith, Order, Genesis.unlock Ultimate Creation, gain Basic Creation6 free Angelic Points, Late Bloomer drawbackAspect Powers:>Creation Ultimate -5>Unity Divine -10Divine Powers: -35>Shapeshifting Divine -5>Divine and Cosmic Senses -6>Resistance and Regeneration Ultimate -10>Preemptive Immortality -5>Nullification -3>Imbue Divine -6Corrupted Power:>The Final ScreamCorruption Level: 2>Temperamental>Mark of the VoidFamily:>Hermione, Goddess of Mind (Import)>Korra, Goddess of Destruction (Import)>Asami, Goddess of Heart (Import)>Alex, Goddess of Life Companions:>Max, Hero of Time>Horus, lesser goddess of War>Atlas, the Spirit Warrior -2>Aurelia, Queen of Flames -2Drawbacks:>Late Bloomer +5>Lost and Found +4>Sparring +5God damn it I won't have time to finish this today. To be continued, then.
>>60820432Welcome! And uploaded.
>>60820366Which one? The Morton's Fork one in this thread?
>>60814835My wife Chino
>>60816137>why would I want to protect someone else's smile?Because you'd go to hell otherwise.
>>60819683how new
>>60820610Nah, a capitalist would give the flute to the shark, hire it as a slave driver to get A to teach C and his family how to play flutes for the masses, while B teaches you how to make the flute. You then make B make flutes until he overworks himself to death. Finally, you take on an apprentice, have them pay you to teach them to make flutes, and then have them pay off the loans they accrued by making flutes for you until they die
>>60821000However you cut it, the legshark makes out pretty well. Profits flow like chum.
>>60820636Foo, you just called the people on 4chan "nerds". That means you're either in denial of what you are, or you're in the wrong site. Either way, you're the main source of cringe here, not waifu-spergers.
>>60820810>left out everyone's waifu, VerdanaFor shame.
>>60820810>No ItalicsWasted opportunity
I have questions for Beri
>>60821202wait we can't post images directly from links? damn
>>60821162Italics isn't a font you numnuts
>>60814509>>60814655>>60814705I went away for three days, /cyoag/.Three. Fucking. Days.Where did all this depressing sad stuff come from?
>>60821273Are you someone we should know?
>>60820810Dude, thanks for two types I've just downloaded to my collection. A Githic girl with a passion for hack'n'slash games and a bookworm girl with passion for Celtic mythology and witchcraft were exactly what my harem needed,
>>60821286No, just a random anon who wants to find out when this thread went from generic waifupickers to... this.It's not bad, on the contrary, I quite like the CYOAs. But damn did this shite get a turn for sad.That, or these are old CYOA that I only noticed now.
>>60820198>Celt is known for her extremely relaxed natureWhat in the God damn
>>60821344All three of those are minimum 1 month old and I think the second and third are closer to 6 months. In fact, I believe To a New World is the previous CYOA made by this >>60813206 same author.
>>60821409Huh. Thanks Anon. So most of the sad things come from a single author. Does the author need a hug?
>>60815037>Profession/Two SkillsRenegade Priest/Theology and Divination>Past/Two SkillsTemple Apprentice/Reading and writing, Cold Touch>SquadMessenger>Six Additional SkillsIntimidationSharp EyeSharp EarTelekinesisMisty AuraDemonologySpend my days going from town to town, convincing the world that I am in fact an aspect of God, brought to Koegria to demand penitence. Shake the locals down for some money, start a cult, you know. Have fun with it.
>>60821409>>60814655 was after To A New World
>>60821273Elf Bullying and New World are by the same author as pic related and Morton's Fork. Morton's fork is the new OC of the batch and got people on the topic. There's also Resonator (>>60820570) I suppose but that's more grimdark than tragic.
>>60821646I wouldn't really call it grimdark. Just dark.
>>60821588Yeah but I think they are both from 2017
>>60818963based retard waaaaafag
Rolled 13 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>60820570Slayer designation: Zamiel>Special CapabilitiesPrecision AttackGhost StepBlademaster+Evolution+NBC Shielding >AbilitiesElectromasterClairvoyance Temporal Manipulation>FriendsHannaRebekahSenpai (notice me please)>Service Roster500 - Ryuji300 - Behemoths300 - Nebulas250 - Spirits of Fire250 - Mind-Twisters200 - Crysfiends200 - Ravagers2000 total>HazardCanceling the ApocalypseI've got a giant edgy lightning-shooting ninja robot that moves so fast it breaks the sound barrier when it lifts a finger. I can slow down fucking TIME and have spatial awareness of the entire battlefield. Come down here, Endbringers, I need to feed your souls to my mecha.
>>60822203And Lia lives!
>>60815468>PenaltiesFour days of blindness per month: +6ptsFour days of awful stench per month: +4pts35 points total>FoodSmall sweetish food cube: -1ptOne gourmet dinner a week: -4ptsUnlimited coffee/tea/hot cocoa: -3pts>Health and HygieneToothbrush/toothpaste/soap/toilet paper: -1ptHigh quality hygiene products: -2ptsPrison shower: -1ptWith hot water: -2ptsMonthly medical examination: -3pts>Entertainment and CompanyE-reader with 100 books: -2ptsCramped library: -2ptsMusical Instrument (A really nice synthesizer probably): -2ptsPet: -3pts>Room and MiscellaneousAccess to environmental controls: -1ptExpand cell to 5x5x3 meters with wood-textured floor and forested hill "window": -8ptsI want the cell to get as close to pic related as possible>Sipping on hot cocoa under my nice blankets, room temperature hovering in the low sixties, reading one of my 100 books while my cat rests on the bed next to meWouldn't be a bad life.
>>60821000Why are there so many idiot socialists here? Is it because their ideology can only function in the realm of fantasy?
>>60823097escaping from the hells of capitalism
>>60823152Not too hellish if they fuel your ability to whine here.
>>60823234>We should improve society>By overthrowing a working system and instituting one proven to fail
>>60823234Dumb comictard.
>>60820570About how tall is the average Slayer? Can I assume the first picture is accurate and they are roughly 10x human, meaning that most of the range numbers are multiplied by 10?
>>60823385Looks like the person in the foreground for the example picture is in the foreground, so the mecha is probably significantly bigger than that. I was assuming they average ~75 meters tall like Unit-01.
>>60823476>the person in the foreground for the example picture is in the foregroundAnd I'm apparently qualified to work for the Department of Redundancy Department
>>60823097>>60821000Guys, stop quarreling! I'm a centrist, if my political views even should matter on this board.
>>60823555Nobody likes a fencesitter, everyone would unite in opposition to you.
>>60823476I was looking at the person on the catwalk/scaffold thing on the left, near its head height.
>>60823385I'd say About 40m (similar to EVA 001) with some variance. Colossus ranges between 50 and 60 (Mechagodzilla and Voltron). Recall for the opening picture that the dude is significantly in the foreground.
>>60823600>Forget the image
>>60823600>>60823476The scale of the Evas is infamously inconsistent throughout the show. It was only standardized in Rebuild.
15-20m is optimal mecha height.
>>60823234this is the most basic bitch commie response i've seen in a while.>>60823152i don't understand that the term any more, it has been stretched to meaningless ness. We are living in a social democracy in which wealth is redistribution to ensure that people have what they need. but the market is mostly unregulated it's just boom no different from an unregulated market with robber barons.also some how fascism is capitalistic because i need my fucking double think.
>>60823575Sounds like Fire Emblem Fates all over again.
>>60813206>>60818151>I don't get it. Hilde is literally the only option that gives you a happy ending. Why are there even ither options to begin with? Picking any other ends with them dying, while Hilde is the only waifu. How is this a waifu picker? Hell, how is this even a CYOA? "Choose this girl or pick a girl who'll just fucking die".All the endings other than Katherine are happy. I don't understand people complaining about this.
>>60823854a basic bitch commie response to a basic bitch capitalist response.don't care enough to get into a full argument & point out all the stupidity in the second part of your comment atm
>>60823969Your loved one dies in them.
>>60823988Where does it say that I love them?
>>60824073>Not at least loving the childhood friend and the girl who is nursing you back to health
>>60813206Laraje. Rebel.Only true choice, TBQH senpai.
>>60824086>childhood friendThat was only a dream.
>>60813206When I first read this, I was half-asleep. It seemed like a pretty uninteresting story, presenting itself as some over-complicated waifu picker. But after -rereading it, I see it is a rather thought-provoking piece. Good work, author.
>>60824110Worthless and coldhearted you are.
>>60824135>Everything is edgy and sucks>Thought provoking
>>60824155I mean /literally/ a dream. Did you not read the CYOA?
>>60824197A lucid dream in tandem.
>>60820198maid anon is best girl
>>60814671The mystery box wasn't fucking around.
>>60823988Who says that Katherine dies in her route? I mean yes, she will eventually die from old age like you will, but nowhere does it say that she is ever caught by her pursuers. After being detected the two of you are sheltered for a time by the demon queen who eventually buying you time to escape from an angelic hit squad.
>>60824317I could have this argument, but I'll point out that reply is to someone who said everyone but Katherine is a happy end. Get why that reply didn't account for Katherine now?
>>60820032>Senpai don't present it like that. The bad ends weren't presented as 'could haves' they were presented as absolutes where the prior good endings had been lies and she's pulling back the curtain for a bad endYeah: since the "bad end" comes after the "good end" and /references the events of/ the fake good end that immediately precedes it, a non-insane person would assume that it is in fact the real end.
>>60824159> Not getting an ending you like means it sucks.
>>60813206I choose:>Laraje>Arariel>Hilde>KatherineI am sleepy, and I don't see anywhere that says 'choose one', so I pick all of them>RebelI don't like their endings, so I figure it out, if they all join forces they might be able to achieve something better.Don't really care either way, probably going to fuck off to sleep while they do their saving the world business.
>>60824340Katherine's route is the only one in which no problems are solved.
>>60824354>Forced endings in CYOAs>Not sucking
>>60824388She wasn't dead to begin with. That's not a problem that gets solved, that's a thing that doesn't change.
>>60824402Why are you ignoring that this conversation was about everyone but Katherine by repeatedly talking about Katherine?
>>60813206Get involved with Arariel, waifu Katherine afterwards. Best end.


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Around the globe, there is an unending cycle of producing innovative policies that are relevantand responsive to today's complex problems of disaster risk reduction and mitigation. ... See More + A lot ofevidence is pointing to the shifting paradigm in responding to emergencies. Foremost amongthem is the growing acceptance of cash transfers as a response tool to disasters.The Philippines is not oblivious to this developing paradigm. The Philippines is considered tohave one of the most advanced social protection (SP) systems in the East Asia Pacific region.These SP systems are designed to help poor households manage risk and shocks. Currently,there are different types of cash transfers being used by the Department of Social Welfare andDevelopment (DSWD) programs. These include: (1) the Pantawid Pamilya conditional cashtransfer (CCT) program; (2) the Sustainable Livelihood Program (SLP) using cash-for-work; and,(3) the National Community Driven Development program (NCDD). These programs use variousmodalities and mechanism for cash transfers in different stages of the post-disaster timeline.However, the SP element of DSWD's disaster risk management and response interventions canbe significantly improved especially if to be used as a response tool during disasters. See Less -
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The first Social Protection and Labor (SPL) Programmatic Analytical and Advisory Assistance (PAAA) in FY2012-14 successfully solidified the Bank's role as the Government's partner of choice in delivering high quality technical assistance and advice related to the strengthening of the Government's flagship programs, such the Pantawid Pamilya Conditional Cash Transfer Program, as well as to the policy and institutional capacity development aimed at efficient and effective delivery of public programs to the population. ... See More + The technical assistance provided by the Bank has contributed significantly to the transformation of social protection in the Philippines. Building on the achievements and the momentum of that first programmatic engagement, this second phase of assistance to the Department of Social Welfare and Development continued the support to: (i) fine-tune the implementation of the Conditional Cash Transfer (CCT) program, the Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program (Pantawid Pamilya), and Government's household targeting system, the Listahanan, and (ii) broaden the knowledge base to inform advancements in the Philippine's overall social protection system. See Less -
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The first Social Protection and Labor (SPL) Programmatic Analytical and Advisory Assistance(PAAA) in FY2012-14 successfully solidified the Bank's role as the Government's partner of choicein delivering high quality technical assistance and advice related to the strengthening of theGovernment's flagship programs, such the Pantawid Pamilya Conditional Cash Transfer Program,as well as to the policy and institutional capacity development aimed at efficient and effective delivery of public programs to the population. ... See More + The technical assistance provided by the Bank has contributed significantly to the transformation of social protection in the Philippines. Building on the achievements and the momentum of that first programmatic engagement, thissecond phase of assistance to the Department of Social Welfare and Development continued thesupport to (i) fine-tune the implementation of the Conditional Cash Transfer (CCT) program, thePantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program (Pantawid Pamilya), and Government's household targeting system, the Listahanan, and (ii) broaden the knowledge base to inform advancements in the Philippine's overall social protection system. The assistance was provided through the second SPL PAAA that was implemented over FY2014-17. The activities were significantly supported through a trust fund resources provided by the Australian DFAT. This technical assistance program has contributed to the refinement of several key implementation aspects of the Pantawid Pamilya CCT and the national household targeting system, Listahanan. The CCT coverage was expanded from 3.8 million beneficiary households in December 2013 to 4.4 million in December 2015, accompanied by an expansion to cover olderchildren (15-18 years old) beyond the original eligibility of 0-14 years old. By the end of 2015, the CCT coverage reached 100 percent of households with children identified as poor by Listahanan. The Impact Evaluation conducted undet this TA, as well as a Benefit Incidence Analysis using household survey data showed that the CCT program is performing very well in delivering on its objectives. The heightened attention received by the CCT program over these years from program beneficiaries, partners, legislators, and observers has not only led to enhancements in theprogram's grievance redress mechanism but also to more and better articulation of evidence of the program's impacts. 2015 marks the first update of the Listahanan since it was first done in the Philippines over 2007-2010. Overall, this program has contributed strongly to the client's successful achievement of remarkable results in implementing the CCT program and in establishing and operating one of the most comprehensive national household targeting systems in the world. See Less -
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This note discusses two of the Philippines' biggest social assistance programs the Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program, the government's first conditional cash transfer (CCT) program, and the rice subsidy program of the National Food Authority (NFA), one of the country's long-standing food-based social assistance programs with a focus on targeting efficiency and the benefits to the poor. ... See More + The goal of the CCT program, which has an explicit poverty targeting mechanism embedded in the program, is to provide short-term cash assistance to poor households while helping to strengthen human capital of their children with the long-run vision of breaking the cycle of poverty. The goal of rice subsidy program is to ensure that low-priced rice is available in the markets to all consumers. Using benefit incidence analysis on the latest official household surveys of 2009, results suggest that both programs benefit poorest households the most. This has implications for the CCT program given the program was only launched with limited coverage in 2008. Despite having been implemented for one year as captured by the data, the program had already reached 12.4 percent of poor households in 2009. Moreover, about 71 percent of its beneficiaries in 2009 belonged to the poorest 20 percent of the population and accounted for 74 percent of total program benefits. See Less -
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Fernandez, Luisa; Velarde, Rashiel Disclosed
This policy note presents the potential poverty impacts of the Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program (Pantawid Pamilya) using simple analytical tools and the government's largest database of poor households to date, the National Household Targeting System for Poverty Reduction (NHTS-PR). ... See More + In doing so, the note also aims to encourage policy-makers and researchers to not only use the NHTS-PR for its intended purpose, that is, for objective targeting of social assistance programs, but also for analysis to maximize the utility of information contained in the database. The Note finds that the Pantawid Pamilya can reduce poverty incidence and inequality in program areas by 2.6 percentage points and 6.6 percent in a year, respectively. Increasing compliance of existing beneficiaries will enhance the poverty-reducing impacts of the Pantawid Pamilya. Expanding program coverage will produce real impacts as long as targeting and program implementation remains properly managed. See Less -
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