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Boston Bans 'Ultimate Fighting' Event
BOSTON (AP) -- City officials have pulled the plug on an "ultimate fighting" event and are threatening to ban the kicking and punching bouts altogether, saying they incite crowds and threaten public safety.
Police and licensing officials blocked a competition planned for this Saturday even though ultimate fighting is legal and is regulated by the Massachusetts Boxing Commission.
"This is not something the city of Boston is going to sanction at this point," said Patricia Malone, head of the city's licensing department.
The fighting is "extremely dangerous" and "incites the crowd. It's definitely a public safety issue," she said.
Ultimate fighting features brawlers inside caged rings. Fights are won by knockout or submission, which usually occurs when a participant is trapped in a dangerous hold. It is legal in most states, but is banned in Illinois and St. Paul, Minn.
"It's basically a mix of 10 styles of fighting that are all legal," said Pat Schultz, 29, a participant from Wareham. "I think the sport might be getting a bad rap from people who don't know about it."
Six hundred tickets were sold for Saturday's event, promoter Mike Varner said. He plans to move the event to a facility in Taunton. "We're licensed. It's regulated. We have insurance," he said.
Ultimate fighting supporters say no one has died in a sanctioned bout. However, at least 10 people have died in "Toughman" amateur boxing matches since that competition started 25 years ago.
Just this weekend, Daniel Quirk, 22, was fatally injured while taking part in a pro wrestling event called Ultimate Championship Wrestling, also in Taunton. Authorities said Quirk, of Shelton, Conn., was outside the ring and attempted to catch another wrestler diving from the top rope. He was knocked off his feet and hit his head on the floor, police said.
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June 01, 2005, 04:28:53 PM »
Maybe someone can convense the croud to keep it down...
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Usual BS from people who don't know what they speak of...
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June 02, 2005, 09:52:50 AM »
I question whether Malone has ever even attended one of the many New England MMA events. The wrestling event that the kid died at was closer to some odd unsanctioned WWF event than any kind of sanctioned, ruled and judged professional (or even amateur) MMA event.
The funny part is they have had quite a few MMA events known as 'Mass Destruction' at Avalon. Avalon is a club within the city of Boston, just a few minute drive away from the Roxy where the canceled fight was to be held. If it was that big a deal, why were those fights not shut down? Why now all of a sudden?
The biggest problem in Massachusettes in my view is that they have not yet seperated the sport of MMA from WWF style wrestling events. On one hand it is looked at as a WWF type of event. On the other handthe events are forced to follow lightly modified boxing commision rules. They can't make up their mind yet if this is sport or entertainment. It's sport folks. Sport fighting. Plain and simple. Some folks invovled in MMA (like Mike Varner mentioned in the article) have already been in discussion with the Massachusettes Boxing Commission and other state officials to have a specific MMA rule set like other states. That will be a good first step to avoiding this type of situation. See here for more info on that:
The fact of the matter is that in sanctioned and professional MMA fights in New England, no one has ever been seriously injured. See here for more info on that:
I have personally been to a few events at Avalon and at the Matrix which is the facility in Taunton where the event will be moved to. Sure, everyone gets up and excited when the fight gets moving. Just like when a boxing match gets good, or the home team hits a homer in a ballgame, or the quaterback throws that perfect touchdown pass. But it is not like they like to phrase it for purposes of sensationalizing the article by saying "The fighting is "extremely dangerous" and "incites the crowd. It's definitely a public safety issue," she said." There's no public safety issue here.
What MMA fight that you've ever seen allows the fighters to jump out of the ring at each other resulting in situations like this where the guy cracked his head off the floor and died as a result of it? Hmmm... now what type of events do we normally see that at? Maybe WWF copies like these guys, and the morons in those backyard wrestling videos?
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March 04, 2007, 02:31:36 AM »
Wow, Randy Couture dominated Tim Sylvia, great head movement.
Im sure Tim Sylvia thought his reach would be enough....
Too bad May 5th is so far away... cant wait till Mayweather and De La Hoya meet but thats another thread..
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I did not see this one coming and am delighted to have been wrong. Outstanding achievement by Couture!
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March 04, 2007, 09:56:28 AM »
By far the best UFC in the past few years, all great fights and I heard that the preliminaries were just as good. Did everyone notice the Trigg 101 RF used to dominate the outside game of JM?!
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March 05, 2007, 12:28:53 AM »
Just saw the first four rounds. That opening combo that dropped TS sure looked like Jun Fan Gung Fu to me
Looks like it scored in the second round too.
Is there a rules reason why RC did not heel kick TS in the belly once he had back control in the first round?
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March 05, 2007, 03:05:11 PM »
I dont believe there are any rules that prohibit it... but perhaps he was just be "cautious" or maybe the heel kick could be misconstrued as a stomp?
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March 05, 2007, 03:13:31 PM »
My take on it was that Tim is a ginormous dude and lifting a heel might have jeopardized Randy's position. Tim could have easily slipped his hip out if Randy would have lost a hook. Not to mention the family jewels Randy could have accidentally hit with the heel which would have called for a break and restart. I am with you Robert, he was playing cautious.
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March 05, 2007, 04:12:10 PM »
Good point about the positioning, Randy literally man handled Tim a couple of times, I mean he literally threw Tim on the ground a couple of times.
I think Tim as a person is a cool person, I saw him in walking in Waikiki once and he was really cool to the people that approached him, I just thought his matches werent as exciting as they could have been. Imagine the respect he would be getting if he did manage to stop RC, Ill have to watch again but I dont recall TS using his jab or his "hunchedback" boxing shell. I wonder if there will be a rematch and how will Tim fight a second time. Will Randy use the same head movement?
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March 05, 2007, 05:03:52 PM »
I think with Crocop comming in and some of the new up and commers like Branden Vera....the heavy weight division is passing Tim Silvia by........I think Arlovski can still make noise there but the more svelt mobile big guys are going to take over this weight class IMHO....
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March 07, 2007, 02:16:46 PM »
Whats up with Vera? Sometime ago I read he was debating on leaving the UFC.
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March 08, 2007, 05:22:16 PM »
ESPN 360 Interview with Randy Couture
Look for "RANDY COUTURE CAPTURES UFC BELT"
I dont think there is a way to directly link to it.
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Shots" questions. Andy looks to show that he is the real deal and not
just another fighter thinking they are "The Last Dragon" to enter the
1. Name: Andy Wang
2. Do you have a nickname? "Yellow Peril" It was originally a racist
term used by the West against Asians, particularly Chinese people,
from immigrating. Since then, it has become a symbol for persevering
and not giving up during hard times. I'd like to think I share some of
those same qualities.
3. Place of birth: Kaoshiung, Taiwan. You can thank us for all the
computer chips and cheap toys you guys have bought over the years!
4. Birthday: May 28, 1977, but I always use the Chinese calendar when
a girl asks me my age, which is about 10 years behind. (Laughs)
5. Fight Record: 8-6
6. How long have you competed in MMA? I started competing in MMA when
I was about 9 or 10 years old and a kid came up to me at school and
not only asked me for my lunch money, but proceeded to reach his hands
into my pockets to check for himself. He had both hands in my pockets
and I thought, "How is he going to protect his face?" He didn't.
7 . How did you get started in competing? The first time I saw the UFC
on videotape back in 1995, I felt right away that those guys who
entered the Octagon, win or lose, were modern day warriors. I wanted
to become one.
8. Who do you train with? Bruce Leroy is a legend in my town! He can
bite bullets with his teeth, he'll never bow down to anybody, even if
they are wearing Converse! Rumor has it he can even glow...
9. What is your favorite UFC moment? Back in the early UFC when Fred
Ettish fought Johnny Rhodes. I remember my stomach was turning as Fred
was getting beat, and I was screaming at the TV, "Tap...why don't you
just tap!" It was then that I realized Fred, even in defeat, had more
heart and character than 99.9% of the people in this world.
10 . What is your favorite TUF moment from the previous seasons? So
far my favorite was when Dana White dropped $10,000 cash for a
billiards game between the coaches, Ken Shamrock and Tito Ortiz...I'm
Chinese, which means cash gets me really, really excited. (Laughs)
11. What do you like to do when you are not training/fighting? Like
most Asians, I like to relax by playing ping-pong and solving calculus
equations for fun.
12. What does it mean to you to get a chance to compete in the UFC?
Honestly, it means I get a chance to find my destiny...to compete
against the best fighters in the world and to know exactly where I
stand in this sport, that's an awesome and rare opportunity.
13. What job do you have or had before coming to the UFC? I taught
high school World History and U.S. Government all the way until last
semester and it's a job that was a lot of fun and I met some of the
coolest kids along the way who had such amazing and inspirational
stories. One kid that stands out was a student of mine whose whole
family was a part of a Crip gang based in Long Beach, California. He
had been in and out of jail, had a child and was heading to prison or
the morgue, but he made the decision to go to college for his infant
son, and even though he got zero support or help, he made something of
himself and he had the guts to do the right thing...it was amazing to
14. Did you go to college and if so, where? I am a proud alumni of the
University of Hawaii at Manoa...GO BOWS!
15. Have you held any rank or titles? I am proudly the South Torrance
H.S. 1995 Prom King. I was so emotional when they handed me my
16. Who do you look up to? Without question my mother and father.
Anytime a family emigrates to a new country, they do it for their kids
and my parents endured a lot and gave up everything they had to give
me and my brother a shot at making our dreams come true.
17. What is your favorite technique? Anything that gets the crowd
"ooohing and aahing"!
18. Are you married and/or have kids? I've never been married and do not
have children at this time.
19. What sponsors do you have? Howard Combat Kimonos, who has been
with me from day one, Fokai, MonsterWarrior crosstraining systems and,
of course, Chef Wang's Kitchen in Hermosa Beach...NO MSG, for real!
20. What do you want to say to the fans? It's an honor to step into
the Octagon for all of you and I'm always going to try and represent
my family, friends and fans to the best of my ability. Thank you!
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Re: MMA Thread
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March 29, 2007, 12:10:51 PM »
TUF 5 sounds like it is going to be awesome, someone already leaked out an incident that should appear on the first episode. I read that Bj really got on Jens nerves and by the end of the season they are going to throw down with some mean intent.
The Andy Wang interview is great! I cant wait to see him fight.
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ICON: Trigg vs Lawler clip
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Found a clip of last Saturdays ICON event.
Trigg vs Lawler - Last round
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April 09, 2007, 11:22:28 AM »
Hey anybody out there think that Matt Serra stood a chance against GSP? WOW what a upset!! Matt has a lot of heart, but GSP has a lot of class but just goes to show anyhting can happen in a fight. But I did not think that Serra would have pulled it off. Just that one fight made my night. All the others where allfull.
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I was on vacation with the family and missed the fight. I must say I was surprised when I heard the results. One comment I saw said something about Serra using an unconventional striking game. Anyone?
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April 10, 2007, 06:42:11 PM »
Unconventional in that he resorted to very tight boxing technique, I guess people are not used to seeing boxing any more in UFC
His right hand rarely left his head as apposed to all of the fighters that hold their hands low and off their head. Apparently Daily Motion has a legal deal to host certain fights and this just so happens to be one of them:
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April 10, 2007, 09:28:37 PM »
His right hand rarely left his head as apposed to all of the fighters that hold their hands low and off their head.
I agree, he was throwing some nice body shots too.
Next weeks UFC should be a good show too!
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April 22, 2007, 10:00:04 AM »
Awesome JKDC Trapping by GG against Cro Cop in the first few minutes of the first round. I think I saw at least ten pac-da's
O yeah, that head kick was pretty cool too
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April 22, 2007, 10:23:15 AM »
Cro Cop's knockout was the shocker of the night I think. I hope his leg didn't get jacked up too bad from that fall.
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Report: UFC Opts for No Drug Testing at UFC 69 or UFC 70
Posted by UFC Junkie on April 26, 2007 at 9:15 am ET
Fighters from neither Houston's UFC 69 event nor last weekend's UFC 70 event in England underwent drug testing following their bouts, according to Steve Sievert of the Houston Chronicle.
According to Sievert, officials from the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation stated that the drug testing was the responsibility of the "sanctioning body" of UFC 69, which in this case, was none other than the UFC.
The UFC simply chose not to test anyone.
Sievert has some feedback from Marc Ratner, the UFC's vice president of regulatory affairs, regarding the matter. Unfortunately, he doesn't offer much in the way of an explanation, other than saying the UFC would have had no authority to discipline the fighters even if they did test positive for performance-enhancing or recreational drugs. (Really?)
Add this latest fiasco to growing list of grievances regarding the TDLR and its first-ever UFC event in the state of Texas. Earlier this month, UFCjunkie.com contacted the commission to get a list of salaries from the fighters at the April 7 event. This information is readily available from other state commissions and considered a matter of public record.
However, with the Texas commission, our numerous phone calls and email messages were ignored. No explanation was given, and no information was sent. I later learned that other media outlets were told that the commission wouldn't release the information until the state's attorney general decided whether or not the figures could stay private. Of course, UFCjunkie.com never got an answer either way.
Sievert also asked Ratner about testing for UFC 70, which took place in Manchester, England. Ratner said they simply had no legal means to do it.
However, just a few days before the UFC 70 event, UFC president Dana White said that the organization would administer the drug tests -- and that Ratner, the former head of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, would be in charge of the process. White made the comments during a conference call to reporters a few days before the event.
Said White:
[Each drug test] will be a random drug test, and actually, what we are doing for this is Marc Ratner will be overseeing and has flown over a lot of inspectors, judges and referees. As far as safety goes, we always go overboard. Ratner is overseeing the whole thing.
The tests, of course, never happened.
In fact, England was apparently so ill-prepared for the event that the UFC reportedly had to fly over two U.S. inspectors, three judges and a doctor who consulted with local officials on the night of the event.
England's Boxing Board of Control, after all, does not regulate MMA.
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Re: MMA Thread
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April 27, 2007, 03:48:29 AM »
Well Andy Wang lost and all I have to say is Why?
Why didn't you listen to your corner, that is what they are there for!!
Oh well....
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April 27, 2007, 08:25:22 AM »
Andy's a buddy via his being a Machado BB and via our having trained together at RAW/R1, so I am bummed for him. This was a big opportunity for him to get what he came for in MMA
The guy was four inches taller than him (given Andy's stocky build, this can't be a rare experience for him) and Andy is a Machado BB, so BJ's advice to take it to the ground seems to as obvious as it was sound. Also to my eye it looked like no one ever showed Andy the footwork fundamentals of fighting unmatched leads. Combine that with the opponent's reach advantage and the result was what it was.
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April 27, 2007, 01:33:37 PM »
Andy why did you fight that fight?
omg i can't believe he fought like that. I was yelling at the tv, he is such a phenomonal grappler... why did he want to kickbox?
I concur that he did not have any basis for fighting an unmatched lead, if i recall correctly didn't this happen a few fights ago in TUF5 as well?(episode2) the fighter had no concepts of fighting a different lead.
The guy had so much reach advantage, yet he wanted to kickbox and throw a looping overhand. You don't throw overhands on southpaws in general, you pump that straight right down the pipe. And if you're doing DBMA you got the outside diamond.
The single pick was right there especially in unmatched lead, you're such a good grappler Andy why did you do that? You're not a striker per se. The guy dissected him with basic kickboxing and reach. The one time i think a single attempt was made he ate a knee, but you gotta commit, eat it and grab it. Saddly that was your shot into the big boys.
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April 27, 2007, 01:43:37 PM »
Also to my eye it looked like no one ever showed Andy the footwork fundamentals of fighting unmatched leads.
YES! Jen's seems to have a good idea of the footwork as he was yelling "circle, circle!" but I agree that Andy should have at least understood the outside footwork. I was commenting to my girlfriend as we watched it; "it seems like some of the material we work is still a big secret to a lot of pro fighters and coaches." This is really one of the only explanations for it not coming out as much.
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NY Times: NFL Player to fight
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LAKE FOREST, Calif., May 16 When Johnnie Morton finished playing wide receiver in the National Football League, he carefully reviewed his retirement options: be host of a talk show, expand his real estate profile, maybe work on his golf game.
Morton played 12 professional seasons, including 8 with the Detroit Lions. He caught 43 touchdown passes in his career.
After much consideration, Morton decided that it would be best to spend his free time being body slammed into a chain-link fence by two men named Joker and Gun.
Crazy, huh? Joker said.
Jokers real name is Mike Guymon. Guns real name is Tony Bonello. Together, they are teaching Morton how to compete in mixed martial arts, one of the few sports that may be more violent and more dangerous than professional football.
Ive gotten hit a lot in my life, said Morton, who spent 12 seasons going over the middle against N.F.L. safeties. But Ive never gotten hit like this.
Morton will walk into a ring for the first time June 2 at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, beginning his second career. He expects to ask himself the same question that friends, family members and former teammates have been asking him for months: What in the world are you thinking?
Mixed martial arts combines wrestling, boxing and kick boxing with jujitsu, tae kwon do and Muay Thai. Punches to the head and knees to the gut are encouraged. Even the most accomplished fighters get their faces rearranged into cubist paintings.
Two months ago, Mortons only experience with mixed martial arts was watching the Ultimate Fighting Championship on television. He admired the fighters, mainly because they were the only athletes who seemed more fearless than football players. Morton memorized their names as if they were N.F.L. superstars.
Some people want to bungee jump, Morton said. Others want to jump out of planes. I would never do that. But I want to do this.
Morton, 35, does not have to fight for a living. He went to the University of Southern California, had a cameo playing himself in the movie Jerry Maguire, and was named one of People magazines most eligible bachelors. He is rich, handsome, and almost as marketable as Tiki Barber, the former Giants running back who is now a news correspondent for NBCs Today show.
Morton, meanwhile, goes to work at a gym in an Orange County office park. The gym Jokers Wild Fighting Academy includes a ring with a chain-link fence. Japanese and American flags hang from the ceiling, reminding Morton of his mixed heritage.
In Detroit, where Morton spent eight seasons, he was the kind of player who did not get tired even during two-a-days. He can bench press 400 pounds. His body fat is less than 5 percent. But during a sparring session Wednesday, he could not summon the energy to get off his hands and knees. Joker and Gun had to drag him to his feet.
Let me die in peace, Morton moaned.
Then he remembered that he was a former professional football player, that his girlfriend was watching, and that Joker and Gun do not believe in peace.
Morton charged at his sparring partner, battering him with a combination of punches and dropping him to the mat with a sweep of his leg. Morton used one hand to grab the mans neck and the other to pound the side of his face.
If Morton were in the N.F.L., he would have drawn a 15-yard penalty, an automatic ejection, a fine and a possible suspension. But here, he prompted Joker and Gun to do their version of a touchdown dance.
Look at this guy, Gun said. Hes beautiful. He has tons of money. He has an incredibly happy lifestyle. And hes putting his brain on the line. Hes putting his manhood on the line. Its hard to say what would make him do it.
Morton is not the first N.F.L. player to enter the ring, only the most celebrated. Michael Westbrook, a former receiver for the Washington Redskins, won a fight two years ago over Jarrod Bunch, a former running back for the Giants. Bob Sapp, a washout as a N.F.L. lineman, became a formidable competitor in mixed martial arts.
One afternoon last winter, Morton was eating lunch at the Health Emporium when a man named Joey Sakoda approached him. Sakoda first asked Morton if he wanted to go to a mixed martial arts fight. Then Sakoda asked Morton if he wanted to participate.
Sakoda works for Superagent Athletes, a Japanese agency that represents Joker and Gun, both title holders. Sakoda acted quickly, placing Morton on the Dynamite!! U.S.A. fight card, which includes a mixed martial arts star (Royce Gracie) as well as a novelty act (Hong Man Choi, a 7-foot-2 South Korean.)
Morton was afraid to tell his parents. His mother, Katsuko, is Japanese-American. His father, Johnnie Sr., is African-American. Johnnie Sr. was once shot eight times while in his car. Katsuko and Johnnie Sr. did not want their son taking any more risks with his body.
Morton is getting no tuneups. He is fighting in less than two weeks, on Showtime pay-per-view, in the same stadium where he played college football. He will be paid about as much money as he used to earn for a single N.F.L. game.
One of the broadcasters will be Jay Glazer, who has a unique perspective on the bout. Glazer is best known as an N.F.L. analyst, but he also competes in mixed martial arts. When he visits N.F.L. training camps in the summer, players ask him more about fighting than about football.
Football players are looked at as the biggest and baddest guys on the planet, Glazer said. People see them as superheroes. But football players also need someone to look up to. They view mixed martial arts as something even they are unwilling or unable to do. All the guys love Johnnie. But they think hes nuts.
N.F.L. players may not want to get into the ring, but they are willing to get in a gym. For years, many players have used boxing as part of their off-season workout regimen. Recently, they have started to turn to mixed martial arts.
According to Glazer, Philadelphias Brian Dawkins and Jacksonvilles Donovin Darius have trained at a mixed martial arts gym. So has Barber. This winter, Kansas Citys Jared Allen worked out at Arizona Combat Sports in Tempe.
Football used to be our only real gladiator sport, said Trevor Lally, the owner of Arizona Combat Sports gym. Now, players have M.M.A. to give them a taste of that one-on-one combat. The combat is what they love.
Morton was never a fighter. Like many receivers, he would try to hit linebackers when they were looking the other way. But Morton said there was only one person in the N.F.L. he would really like to see in the ring Matt Millen, the Lions president. Millen directed a homosexual epithet at Morton after a game between Detroit and Kansas City in 2003, when Morton was playing for the Chiefs.
Morton is not ready to give up football just yet. He was released by the San Francisco 49ers two years ago but said that his agent was talking to a couple of teams. Ideally, he would fight in June and go to a training camp in July.
Morton is trying to shift back and forth, from the mainstream of sports to the fringes, from Tom Brady and Peyton Manning to Joker and Gun. When Morton finished his workout Wednesday, Joker shouted out one more piece of advice, for the road home and the road to retirement.
Drive fast, he said. Take chances.
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Subject: [Eskrima] Pro fight league is a hit
Pro fight league is a hit
John Boyle
Herald, Everett, Wash
Aaron Stark will step into the ring at the Everett Events Center
tonight with his mind set on knocking his opponent unconscious or
beating him into submission.
The Oregon native is 205 pounds of tough, a fighter in the
International Fight League, the world's first team-based professional
mixed martial arts league, which is making its first stop in
Washington tonight.
And Stark's long-term dream: To make world-class pinot noir.
When he's not busy fighting or training, Stark is the vineyard manager
for Colene Clemens Vineyard in Oregon's Willamette Valley. The
family-owned vineyard, named for Stark's grandmother, planted pinot
noir vines - three different Dijon clones, Stark says with pride - two
years ago, and Stark said they hope to produce their first wines next
Oh yeah, the former college wrestler is also a member of Mensa
International, an organization of people with high IQs.
While mixed martial arts competitions, best known from the Ultimate
Fighting Championships that draw huge crowds and pay-per-view ratings,
continue their rapid growth in this country and abroad (see last
week's cover of Sports Illustrated as evidence), they also fight
constant misconceptions.
Gone are the early days of the sport when there were no weight classes
and few rules. Despite the violence of the sport - and there's no
arguing that it is violent - fighters say the sport is much safer than
the casual observer might believe.
These are athletes, and well-rounded ones at that, not brawlers.
"I do think that's something we're always dealing with," Stark said.
"I won't tell you that there aren't any savages in the business, but
most of the guys tend to be fairly well-rounded guys outside of the
ring. They're guys with families, guys who went to college. I don't
have any hatred for my opponents. It's a sport."
The IFL's visit tonight gives local fight fans a chance to see the
sport up close. The IFL, which started last year and is in its first
full season, differs from Ultimate Fighting by being a team sport.
Tonight's card features fighters from four of the teams in the 12-team
league: Seattle; Portland, Ore.; Los Angeles; and Tokyo. Each team has
fighters in five weight classes, and teams win by winning three or
more of the five matches.
Competitions take place in a round-robin format from January to June,
with the top two teams competing for the IFL Championship in
While the IFL may not have the name recognition of Ultimate Fighting,
it is certainly doing well in its first full season. Matches are held
in smaller venues, similar in size to the 8,300-seat Everett Events
Center, and usually draw between 5,000 and 8,000 fans. The league also
has TV contracts with FSN, which airs a weekly show Friday nights, and
with MyNetworkTV, which has a two-hour show on Mondays that is part
fight action and part a behind-the-scenes look at the league.
In the early to mid-1990s, the early days of mixed martial arts in the
U.S., fighters could get away with almost anything. The sport was
referred to as "human cockfighting" by Republican Sen. John McCain of
Arizona and was banned in many states before changes were made.
Now the sport is regulated. It has weight classes and rules.
The IFL's Web site lists 27 actions constituting fouls, including
butting with the head, eye gouging, biting, hair pulling, fish
hooking, groin attacks of any kind, elbows to the face or head, and -
get ready to cringe - intentionally placing a finger in any opponent's
The sport's top athletes are just that: athletes, not barroom brawlers
stepping into the ring. Most come into the sport with a background in
one fighting discipline and then learn others such as boxing,
kickboxing, wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, karate, Muay Thai or tae kwon do.
Unlike boxing, mixed martial arts has not had a death in a sanctioned event.
"It's definitely not as bad as what people think," said Ryan Schultz,
a member of the Portland Wolfpack and one of the league's stars.
"We're not just brutes up there beating the crap out of each other.
We're all friends. It's totally a sport. Most of us, we're pretty
easygoing guys."
The IFL is also unique in that is provides a steady fight schedule and
steady pay. While the top fighters on pay-per-view fights are making
good money, other fighters can struggle to find fights at all, let
alone fights that pay well. IFL fighters, on the other hand, have
contracts with the league that provide a steady paycheck and health
"I've fought all over the place, in Japan, Hawaii, Canada, just
looking for fights," said Schultz, who wrestled at the University of
Nebraska. "With this league it's great. With IFL, you can plan your
life a little bit better. You know when you're fighting. They take
care of us."
That financial security is something some fighters never thought
they'd get from fighting.
"My first five fights were for free," said Brad Blackburn, an Olympia
native who fights for the Seattle Tiger Sharks. "Now I'm getting paid
enough to pay my bills. I was hoping one day it would pay, but I never
really thought it would. I'm getting paid to go out and do something I
Controversial or not, the sport on display tonight in Everett seems
here to stay.
"This sport is definitely blowing up," Schultz said. "It's fun to be
on that train. It's exciting; you can definitely see the change in how
popular it's becoming. I think it's here to stay and I see it doing
big, big things."
More about the sport
Fighting styles used: Boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, Jiu Jitsu,
karate, Muay Thai and tae kwon do are the most prominent - also judo,
aikido and others.
How a fight is won: Matches are won by knockout, technical knockout
(referee or corner stoppage), submission or tap out (when an athlete
resigns the match because he is in a compromised hold or choke), or a
judge's decision. The team that wins the best three of five matches
wins the team competition.
Common terms
Armbar: A type of armlock in which the arm is hyper-extended at the
elbow in order to get an opponent to submit or tap out.
Ground-and-pound: A technique in which an athlete gains an advantage
through a takedown, assumes a top position and strikes down on the
Heelhook: A submission hold applied on the heel and then fully
accomplished by twisting the knee at the joint.
Submission hold: A choke or joint manipulation that is meant to cause
an opponent to submit or tap out.
Tap/tap out: An act of submission or giving up in which an opponent,
hopelessly captured in a submission hold or being pummeled by strikes,
taps the mat or his opponent in lieu of blacking out or risking bodily
Takedown: The act of putting your opponent to the floor with a tackle,
sweep, Greco-throw or other technique, typically involving the legs.
IFL timeline
Jan. 6, 2006: Real estate developer and martial arts aficionado Kurt
Otto and Gareb Shamus, founder of Wizard Entertainment, announce the
creation of the International Fight League. The IFL will field four
teams (Los Angeles, New York, Seattle and Moline, Ill.) and play host
to two national tournaments in 2006 before formally launching a full
season in 2007.
April 29, 2006: The IFL makes its debut at the Taj Mahal in Atlantic
City, N.J. The Quad Cities Silverbacks post a 4-1 win over the Los
Angeles Anacondas, and the Seattle Tiger Sharks edge the New York
Pitbulls 3-2.
June 2-Nov. 20, 2006: The league expands to 12 teams for the 2007
season, adding franchises in Portland, Ore.; Tokyo; Toronto; San Jose,
Calif.; Tucson, Ariz.; Orange County, Calif.; Chicago; and in Nevada.
Nov. 29, 2006: The IFL begins trading as a public company under the
OTC Bulletin Board ticker symbol (IFLI: OTC.BB).
Jan. 19, 2007: The IFL holds its inaugural regular-season event at The
Oracle Arena in Oakland, Calif., where the Toronto Lions defeat the
San Jose Razorclaws and the Southern California Condors beat the
Seattle Tiger Sharks.
Today: The IFL comes to the Everett Events Center.
Source: The IFL
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Re: MMA Thread
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June 08, 2007, 08:59:34 PM »
I miss WA but not enough to leave Hawaii.. lol.
Shamrock and Baroni are fighting soon here is an recent interview....
Baroni is a trip..
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June 08, 2007, 11:42:34 PM »
Funny interview.
Any predictions on the fight?
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June 09, 2007, 01:28:48 AM »
unless baroni can ko frank the way he ko'd menne (quick chain of punches...brutal to watch), i see frank fighting phil like he fought tito, constant movement on the ground, making phil work to hold him down, and then knocking him out when phil gasses...
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June 09, 2007, 12:06:03 PM »
DQ by knee to the back of the head
This one should be interesting, I totally thought that the two of them were in separate weight classes but I guess I am wrong.
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Royce Gracie tests positive for 'roids
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that's a damn shame
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I'm looking forward to the fights today. I think Franklin has a tough fight ahead of him.
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I saw that Royce is denying the use of 'hoids. He says he was using over the counter products. The recent case with the American who won the World title only to have it taken away, has given me a sense that these things sometimes are not cut and dried. Let the Truth be found.
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HOLLYWOOD is so behind the curve on cultural trends that most fads are over before the movie biz can figure out how to exploit them. So I guess I shouldn't have been shocked to discover that someone is only now -- after Ultimate Fighting Championship has become a huge ratings champ on Spike TV, made the cover of Sports Illustrated and, most important in terms of zeitgeist cred, been mocked by both the Onion and "The Daily Show" -- making a film about the wild 'n' woolly sport that has gained a chokehold on the elusive 18-to-34 male demographic.
The picture, called "Redbelt," is shooting here in Los Angeles through the end of the month, with much of the filming at the Pyramid in Long Beach. After visiting the set last week, I asked industry-ites to guess the identity of the filmmaker who'd beaten everyone else to the punch, so to speak. An action impresario like Michael Bay? A guy's guy like Michael Mann? A sports-aholic like Mike Tollin?
Wrong, wrong and wrong again. The filmmaker who's plunged headfirst into the brutal world of ultimate fighting is ... David Mamet.
A celebrated playwright, opinionated essayist and fiercely independent filmmaker, Mamet was introduced to the sport several years ago by several enthusiasts, notably Mordecai Finley, Mamet's rabbi and a longtime jujitsu practitioner who has a part in the film as one of the undercard fighters. Fascinated by the sport, which blends the brawn of boxing and agility of kick-boxing with the art of jujitsu and the head-banging of wrestling, Mamet wrote a story that revolves around many of his favorite themes -- honor, deception and betrayal -- set in the world of mixed martial arts.
"Like everyone, I grew up with boxing, but everyone seems sick to death of it -- it's all about whether Mike Tyson was going to bite someone's ear off or not," Mamet said during a break between scenes last week. "I'm interested in going backstage into this new world, especially since everyone loves backstage movies. You could say that the story is a lot like a story about Hollywood -- it's all about honor and corruption."
Mamet grins. "In a lot of ways, it's an American samurai film. I think it's a script Kurosawa would've liked."
Mamet's script focuses on a jujitsu master, played by Chiwetel Ejiofor ("Children of Men"), who after years of refusing to fight must sacrifice his purity by going into the ring to protect his honor. The film is populated with top fighters, including Ultimate Fighting Championship legend Randy Couture, Enson Inoue and Ray Mancini, as well as John Machado, who runs a Brazilian jujitsu training school in L.A. But it also features such acting talent as Emily Mortimer and Tim Allen, as well as Mamet regulars Joe Mantegna and Ricky Jay, who plays a fight promoter who delivers such Mamet gems as "Everything in life -- the money's in the rematch."
Mamet pitched the story all over town. To his surprise, everyone passed. "I was a little dumbfounded," he admits. "I told them, 'Crunch the numbers. Look at the UFC's pay-TV ratings. See how big Randy Couture and some of the UFC stars are.' God willing, I think a lot of people are going to be surprised at how well this will do."
Looking for a buyer, Mamet went to Michael Barker and Tom Bernard, the heads of Sony Pictures Classics, the art-house specialists best known for championing foreign films from the likes of Pedro Almodóvar and Zhang Yimou. "With them, at least you're talking to the two guys who can say yes," Mamet explains. "They didn't even ask to see the script. They said, 'We'll see you at the opening.' "
Still, that's quite a culture clash, a mixed-martial arts film being financed by the guys whose business model usually involves winning Oscars with exotic foreign films. But from Sony Classic's point of view, the movie is a good bet. For $7 million, they not only get a classic Mamet drama but also one rooted in a pop culture phenomenon.
Created in the early 1990s, Ultimate Fighting Championship events were initially more sordid brawling than sport, famously dismissed by Sen. John McCain of Arizona in 1996 as "human cockfighting." The UFC was purchased in 2001 by Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta with the aid of Dana White, an ex-gym owner who is now the sport's colorful impresario. With a host of new rules and the creation of weight classes, the UFC took off, thanks in part to a weekly Spike TV reality show, "The Ultimate Fighter," which often attracts a bigger young male audience than the NBA or Major League Baseball.
The UFC is represented by the Endeavor Talent Agency, which has helped the UFC put together TV deals with HBO and ESPN. But Hollywood has been a tougher nut to crack. Initially wary of the sport because of its extreme violence, the studios have only just begun to notice the sport's passionate following among men, just as the studios have been painfully slow to react to other pop subcultures, including hip-hop, skateboarding and street racing.
White spoke derisively about Hollywood's risk-averse attitude toward ultimate fighting, saying, "They are the last in line when anything new comes along." He got early interest from several prominent producers. "But we kind of pulled back. They wanted to use the brand, and we never came to a deal. If we do a movie, we want it done right."
The UFC at one point commissioned a script itself, hiring "15 Minutes" writer-director John Herzfeld for a project that would've been released by Lionsgate. White says, "We got cold feet and pulled out" over control issues. Studio executives say they've seen a number of spec scripts, but none that captured the world in an inspired way, the way "8 Mile" did with hip-hop. "Too much of what we've seen have been 'Rocky'-style stories, which felt too clichéd," says Moritz.
Studio execs who heard Mamet's pitch said they shied away because they still felt they were getting a Mamet movie, for them a product with limited box-office appeal. Only now, with the sport booming, are projects taking shape. Universal is developing a film while New Line is close to a deal with director Gavin O'Connor ("Miracle") for a script about two friends pursuing a mixed martial-arts title fight.
"For me, there's a great story that could put a microscope on the fighters' lives and capture their humanity as well as the brutality of the sport," says O'Connor, who produced an HBO documentary, "The Smashing Machine," that chronicled the struggles of fighter Mark Kerr. "But Hollywood has been very cautious. They're never ahead of the curve. They only jump on the bandwagon when something is already successful."
An ultimate fighting movie will never work if it airbrushes away the rough edges of the sport. Mamet's "Redbelt" script certainly doesn't. As Ricky Jay's fight promoter puts it: "Any two guys fighting for money. No way the fight is fair."
What seems to especially interest Mamet is the eternal conflict between art and business. In "Redbelt," the artist is Ejiofor's character, a loner who trains off-duty cops and bouncers in the art of self-defense but refuses to fight himself. As one of his friends puts it: "He can't stand the sight of money."
This is hardly the way of the new world of sport-tainment, where athleticism is often overshadowed by performance enhancement drugs and endorsement deals. Watching Mamet direct a scene one day, John Machado -- whose uncle was the founder of Brazilian jujitsu -- pondered the movie's themes, which hit especially close to home for him since he has chosen to teach instead of to fight.
"This movie could have a big impact, because it shows the love you must have for the art," he says. "My character is a businessman, so I'm part of the conflict in the movie -- and in real life. How much do you do to sell yourself without selling out?"
Perhaps that's why the studios are so late to the party with ultimate fighting. How to sell yourself without selling out is one of those questions Hollywood has never figured out how to answer.
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Second post of the morning: Kimbo vs. Mercer
Any predictions on this fight?
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"MMA is not barbaric," he contends. "Barbaric is when two guys want to get in the ring or in a cage and fight each other with
. That's when it's barbaric. Right now, I've just got my hands.
Interesting quote from Kimbo.
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June 19, 2007, 09:03:56 PM »
IMHO events like Kimbo/Mercer are what make the public shake their head at MMA. A fight like this is pure exhibitionism. Street brawler vs. Washed up Boxer. MMA has a hard enough time staying credible without displays like this. The majority of the audience for this one is more interested in who's giving/taking the beating than technique or style. I won't waste my time (or money) on this one.
That being said, I think Kimbo is a lock for this one. But get him into the ring with a real MMA pro or even a halfway decent fighter close to his age and he won't last a round.
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Dang, I didnt catch this until it was over but there was a free seminar this weekend at the new ICON gym Rigan Machado and Rico Chiapperelli were among the instructors.
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I just watched an interview with David Mamet on the Fox News website. He is talking about training the actors for Redbelt, his new movie about MMA. In the interview he points out (in the background) Rico Chiapparelli, who is training some of the fighters / actors. Here's the clip:
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Any comments on last night's UFC?
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Woof, Since there are rules in the UFC, I would purpose that they add a "stalling" rule, with a point deduction for excessive or persistent stalling, much like they do in wrestliing.
The reason being and the example I will give is.........On several occassions Hermes Franca "turtled up" and baiscly did nothing, except hide and cover and rest.
We also see as we also saw with Hermes stalling from the guard or at the very least, extreme inactivity. This puts the burden on the top guy to work, which I think Sean Sherk did very well, but does make for a fairly boring fight.
I think the bottom guy should have to work to improve his position, or risk losing a point, and not merly hold on.
In a different vien not really relative to the Hf vs. SS FIGHT......some guys will purposley stall with the knowledge that if nothings happening on the ground then the fighters will be stood back up....which in a lot of times is what the bottom guy wants....... merly covering up is not fighting.....If it were a stand up fight like boxing leaning on the ropes covered up would not be allowed,..... Just my opinion........
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Comments on last nights fights?
1) I liked Bisping and didn't care for Hamill in TUF, but I thought Hamill won.
2) Crocop-Kongo: Crocop would appear to have a hard road ahead if he continues to fight.
3) Good fight between two fine warriors. Congrats to Rampage.
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1) Hamill was robbed.
2) I think CroCop has 1, maybe 2 fights left before he fades into obscurity. He looked lackluster and uninterested. Kongo has been rising for a while.
3) Henderson/Rampage was great. Equal parts brawl and chessmatch. Fun to watch.
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Cro-Cop came to the UFC because he never could best Fedor...if he can't make something happen in the UFC, i'd say he'll probably be leaving the fight game.
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It's easy to fall into a dating routine of dinner and the latest movie. With just a bit of effort, though, you can break free of the dating tedium and do something that is as unique as you are.
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If you were to choose a background song for our first first-date idea, it would have to be "Let's Get Physical."
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For this date, bring out the old Monopoly set and play a game. What makes this date unique is that the game is only an excuse to closely observe your date's behavior.
Is your date excessively eager to buy up all the railroads? Does he pout if you buy a property that he wanted? Does she look a little too happy when you land on one of her expensive properties?
There are so many things you can learn about people by watching them play. Does he insist on lining up all the money into perfectly parallel stacks?
Worst of all, does your date cheat? If so, better to find out now before you've gone any further.
Don't use any shortcuts. Play the full version of the game. If, four hours into the game, you're still talking to each other, that's a good sign that you might be very compatible.
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Pretend that a scientist in a white lab coat has directed you to go on a special kind of date.
On this date, you and your companion may not speak to each other or touch each other. All communication must be nonverbal, either through gestures or through your eyes.
By the end of the date, two things may happen. You may have gotten used to the lack of direct communication. If it feels like it's normal -- if it makes you feel like you're an old married couple -- than you better run. The first date is way too soon in the relationship to be falling into that kind of rut.
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For an unusual first date, try a horror movie marathon. You may be able to find one in a nearby theater -- of course, that's a lot easier around Halloween than other times of the year -- or create your own at home with a stack of rental films.
There's nothing like being scared together to see if you are really compatible. Is one person a screamer and the other a comforter? That would work. If you're both screamers, though, you will just egg each other on. If you're both calm comforters, you'll be frustrated that there is no one to soothe.
Also pay attention to your date's popcorn-eating behavior. Try making just one bowl and see what happens. Does your date hog the bowl, making it hard for you to reach? Does your date drop kernels on the floor? If your date passes the bowl each time he or she takes a handful, you'll know you've got a winner.
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For a unique date -- and a unique life experience -- do something that neither of you has ever done before.
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The trick is to pick something that is way outside the norm for both of you, not only something you've never done before, but something you've never even thought of doing.
If your companion is a dud, at least you will have an adventure and a break from the routine, and you might even discover a whole new interest. If your companion seems promising, observe how he or she handles the unfamiliar situation.
Life has a way of throwing us curve balls, and someone who can take novelty in stride may be a good bet for the long term.
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One of the biggest causes of excessive energy use in homes comes from the amount of electrical equipment, lighting, and electronics we have, and how often it is left on when not needed. I am a green building consultant in the Atlanta area and I work with Atlanta electricians and remodeling contractors to try to improve energy use in houses. Here are my suggestions for installing automatic switches to save energy at home:
Starting with lights, we often turn them on when we walk into rooms, even if there is enough light to see without them. On top of that, they are too often left on when not needed. If no one is in a room, then there isn't much point in having a light on. A little lighting here and there for security – to make intruders think you are at home and to have enough light so you don't trip over something or fall down a flight of stairs – is fine, but don't leave on so many lights that someone walking down the street thinks that you're filming a movie in your house.
If you have the old, soon to be discontinued incandescent light bulbs, they produce a lot of heat (about 90% of their energy is heat and only 10% is light), so in the summer, lights left on heat up your house, requiring more air conditioning to keep it cool.
If everyone was just responsible and turned things off, we wouldn't need to worry much, but we are a lazy bunch and, apparently, we need help operating light switches. That is where occupancy controls come in. There are many devices available that will control lights, fans, and electronic equipment: turning it off automatically when it isn't needed, saving energy in the process.
Next: Occupancy sensors and manual-on sensors
The most basic occupancy sensors turn on lights when someone enters a room, automatically turning them off a preset amount of time after they exit. These sensors use a combination of motion detection and heat sensing technology so the lights don't go off if you are sitting and quietly reading. The sensitivity is adjustable so things don't turn on every time your kitty walks through the room.
Although occupancy sensors do work well, a better solution is what is known as a manual-on sensor. This type of switch requires someone to turn on the light manually, then turns it off automatically after they leave. The good thing about this type of switch is that it doesn't turn lights on when you don't need them. During the day, many rooms have enough light for someone to walk through or get something they need without turning on a light, and manual-on sensors save energy by not automatically turning lights on when not needed. Occupancy sensors can also be used on ceiling fans, which are often left on after people leave the room, wasting more energy.
Electronics are big energy hogs, and most of them are in the on position all the time, usually just so we can turn them on using the remote control. TVs, DVD players and audio equipment use power in the standby mode, so disconnecting the power when you're not using them is another good energy saving strategy. You probably don't want to turn off your DVR or cable box, because then it won't record that episode of "Mad Men" that you missed, but the other stuff is fine.
If you're building or renovating, you can put in what is known as a "kill switch," a regular switch that controls a set of receptacles that you can plug in all the things that you can turn off. When you're not watching, just flip the switch and watch the energy savings on your fancy energy monitor (if you have one). When you're ready to watch TV, just turn the switch on, sit back, and flip through the channels with your remote.
Next: Simpler energy-saving setups
For simpler setups, you can have a regular old power strip: one with a remote control, or something known as a "smart strip." Smart strips have a special receptacle that senses when the main piece of equipment (like a TV or computer) is turned off. It then cuts the power to other receptacles in the power strip, saving energy by turning off your DVD player, printer, monitor, or other equipment that doesn't need to be on.
If you're looking for something simple, you could use timer switches, kind of like the ones they used to have in college libraries. Turn them on for a set amount of time and they automatically turn off when done. This may not be your preference, but they do work well on bath fans, keeping them on long enough to exhaust the moisture but keeping you from leaving them on all day. You can get timers that run up to eight hours – these are great for ceiling fans you like to have on at night to keep you cool in bed. You don't have to worry about turning them off in the morning so they don't run all day.
Finally, if you're willing to be a responsible adult, you can just use regular old switches and train yourself to turn things on only when you need them and to turn them off when you're done. I know that's kind of tough, but how much effort does it really take?
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