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Janesville's new title all about helping birds
JANESVILLE--Thanks to the work of a handful of volunteers and 10 local conservation groups, Janesville has earned the title of Bird City.
The new label means the community will work to increase healthy places for birds to live and decrease the dangers they face.
One of the first orders of business is to plan a party.
"We are looking for volunteers to help," said Neil Deupree, a member of the committee that drew up the application to become a Bird City.
Ryan Stahl, another committee member, wants to get people involved who don't know much about birds.
"I got started in this project with zero experience in birding," he said. "I would like to see more people with zero experience get involved."
He especially encourages young people.
A festival in May will feature a bird walk and education about how to make backyards more appealing to birds. The new event will celebrate International Migratory Bird Day, an effort aimed at making people more aware of the wonders of migration. The event will take place the second Saturday in May.
The citizens' committee and conservation groups gathered information to apply for the Bird City designation from a private group called Bird City Wisconsin.
In its third year, Bird City Wisconsin recognizes communities committed to making their neighborhoods better places for people, birds and other wildlife.
Modeled after the Tree City USA program, more than 75 Bird City communities in Wisconsin so far have:
--Improved habitat for breeding and migrating birds.
--Practiced sound management of urban forests.
--Reduced bird deaths caused by domestic cats allowed to roam freely and by birds striking windows.
Their action comes at a critical time.
Wisconsin provides important breeding, wintering or migratory habitat for more than 280 native bird species. State bird conservation groups report that 84 species, or about one third, has low or declining populations, largely because of habitat loss.
Bird City Wisconsin Coordinator Carl Schwartz said another third of all birds is holding its own.
"We need to make sure that those holding their own continue to do so," Schwartz said. "And we need to work hard to help those in trouble."
Bird City Wisconsin focuses on bringing back chimney swifts, purple martins and nighthawks, whose numbers are plummeting.
"Communities that have a healthy balance of habitat make good hosts for a wider number of bird species," Schwartz said. "We need open space for wildlife. Not everything has to be mowed or turned into playgrounds. We also have to be careful about how we use pesticides. Overwhelming evidence shows that overuse of pesticides cuts down on bird populations."
Bird City Wisconsin has been recognizing cities for three years.
"There are a lot of people out there who enjoy birds," Schwartz said. "Whether they are wildlife watchers or amateur ornithologists, they are interested in what they can do to make a difference."
The Janesville City Council approved the Bird City application, which highlights avian conservation already happening in the city.
In the category of creating and protecting habitat, the application noted that:
--An ongoing study monitors three rare species of birds at the Cook Memorial Arboretum, an important area for breeding and migration of forest bird species.
--Janesville provides bird habitat in the city's 15 miles of greenbelts. Through the efforts of the parks department, many of these natural areas have undergone or are currently in the process of being restored to prairies, which can provide habitat to declining species of grassland birds.
"We have a tremendous resource with our parks and greenbelt system," city parks Director Tom Presny said. "In the years ahead, we will see more being done to accommodate birds and to educate others about birds."
Anna Marie Lux is a columnist for The Gazette. Her columns run Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays. Call her with ideas or comments at (608) 755-8264, or email email@example.com.


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Moultons, Modern and Vintage
history. Production initially began in 1962, then ceased in the 1970s and resumed in the 1990s - with some models produced under license by Pashley.
space frame, and it allows for greater rigidity and lighter weight in comparison to traditional steel frames.
Here is a neat promotional video from when these bikes first came out.
70 comments:
I've always enjoyed the look of the space frame, but as far as I can tell, they're really meant to be iconic collectors bicycles for the well heeled.ReplyDelete
Something like a Bike Friday or Brompton pretty much takes them out of the equation for most potential buyers.
I wonder if the front suspension is adjustable and maybe it was just too loose.
Jammy - I think the Pashley-Moulton models in the low-mid $2K range are actually meant to be useable. But it's true that for the price you could get a Brompton with full folding capability, choice of handlebars and colour, and dynamo lighting. As far as value for the money, it is difficult to not favour the Brompton - unless one makes the argument that the space frame and the suspension have advantages when it comes to ride quality.ReplyDelete
I think the saddle was much too low for me. I wasn't intending to ride either of them, but it seems we just can't resist trying weird bikes whilst at Harris.ReplyDelete
The new Moulton did feel like it would turn its wheel to the side and throw me if I let go of the handlebar. I didn't have any issues riding either bike, nor did it feel somehow revolutionary or better than a regular bike, but I _think_ the older one felt perhaps a bit more stable. I do of course now want to go back there in the summer and try both of these against a Brompton (the bike I really want, actually) but this time properly adjusted.
- AnonymousFebruary 27, 2011 at 3:38 PM
wow, $2K plus! makes me wonder if the buyer of such a bike might have more money than sense.ReplyDelete
Anon - Yes, but put it in context: In a market where cyclists have no problem dropping $5K+ on a carbon fiber roadbike, I think $2K for a unique design like this is a fair price, if the bike performs well.ReplyDelete
I look forward to hearing both of your thoughts on the bike come warmer weather. I checked and the shock stiffness should be adjustable via a screw, maybe the shop can tighten it up.ReplyDelete
I too am considering a Brompton this year, the incredible portability and handmade-ness are appealing.
Velouria said...ReplyDelete
" I find the newer space-frame model intimidating and somewhat impractical, though visually compelling."
No, the space frame is just to weird and non traditional to be appealing to me at all! :()
In fact the space frame strikes me as a love it or hate it with no middle ground. Sometimes engineering just gets strange.........
Forgot to mention something about the new Moulton.ReplyDelete
See those V-brakes? Combined with small wheels and... these stop like crazy. Grab the brake just a little too much and the fork will go through the whole suspension range and off you go.
This isn't a criticism per-se, just please keep this in mind when trying this bike.
"See those V-brakes? Combined with small wheels and... these stop like crazy. Grab the brake just a little too much and the fork will go through the whole suspension range and off you go."ReplyDelete
Whoa! I can see lawyer written all over that after a rider has to panic stop and gets hurt as a result!!!!
I was going to write "but doesn't Brompton have the same brakes?," but then looked at one of my pictures and saw that it has side-pulls. I wonder what the reasoning behind Moulton's v-brake decision was if it is indeed so dangerous to have them.ReplyDelete
Hi Velouria,ReplyDelete
I have two Moultons, a Pashley APB DD24 and my most recent an Esprit. The Esprit has 17" wheels and was bought direct from the Factory, last May.
Both my Moultons were bought by comments from forums and club members experience which was usually quite positive.
I strongly recommend you take a long test ride as only then will you realise just how comfortable these bicycles are.
The Esprit is a lovely bike to ride but I had an issue with the 17" wheel catching in a slot in a graten. I was thrown off and received cracked ribs and a badly cut up and bruised leg.
I have just bought a Pashley Guvnor which I am enjoying riding.
I also have an aluminium sports bike, as I thought I should buy a 'proper bike' as the Moultons seem to be looked on with some amusement.
Anything out of the ordinary and you aren't thought of as a cyclist, or so it seems.Replies
Oh yes, we cyclists are a highly conformist lot, which is ironic in that we are viewed by civilians as eccentric. What could be more eccentric than a Moulton, which weighs twice what a conventional carbon bike would and whose small wheels hinder both rolling efficiency and stability? And yet there's something about them that appeals to me. Like Morgan cars, they are contrarian to the core and so, so British.Delete
"See those V-brakes? Combined with small wheels and... these stop like crazy. Grab the brake just a little too much and the fork will go through the whole suspension range and off you go."ReplyDelete
Sometimes bad engineering, sometimes cost selected the wrong part. What matters is that if Moulton doesn't fix that design flaw then they deserve the lawsuits they will surly face. In fact the dealer should refuse to sell any until the factory ok's the design to absolve the dealer from any liability.
I had a 1965 Moulton. After replacing the rims and brakes, and adding drop bars, it was insanely fast. I'm not sure how well the local roadies took to being smoked by a bike with a basket on the back.ReplyDelete
Bridgestone made some new versions of the F-frame Moulton a few years back. They were supposedly lovely, but priced for the collector.
Robert - Jeez, I am sorry to hear that! Wheels getting stuck in cracks and grates is one of my fears when roadcycling. The Esprit looks interesting, would be curious to try a Moulton with drop bars.ReplyDelete
Walt - I am pretty sure that these models been in production for several years now, and I've not heard of any lawsuits. I'd like to hear what the owners who ride the bikes have to say - it could be fine.
scruss - In this 1960s promotional video, toward the end they claim that the drop bar bike can go 50mph.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousFebruary 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM
I have a Moulton TSR 9, like the one in the photos, which I have used as my main transport for the last couple of years. It has a rear rack with integrated large bag, very similar in style to the old Moulton, which is very practical.ReplyDelete
Never had any issue with the linear-pull brakes. The TSR 9 has the more off-road version of the frame, hence the v-brakes, and there is a more road-orientated version that takes calipers.
The steering does feel light after riding a large wheeled bike, but I soon got used to it, and although the front end feels more unstable than a standard bike, the flipside is that it is a more manoeuverable, which I find useful in town.
The space frame makes the bike very rigid laterally, and coupled with the suspension that irons out most irregularities, the bike feels really solid going at speed over rough country roads. It is real joy on steep sweeping descents in a way that I can't really describe - the suspension compresses going into the bends in a way that feels really satisfying.
I do worry about the long-term durability of the frame though - some of the secondary tubing is very delicate, and has been knocked in bike racks.
I have long carried a torch for Moulton bicycles, but not for the sans suspension Raleigh version that substituted for the genuine article. It was very interesting and I hadn't seen the video before.ReplyDelete
See those V-brakes? Combined with small wheels and... these stop like crazy. Grab the brake just a little too much and the fork will go through the whole suspension range and off you go.ReplyDelete
Welcome to the world of V-brakes: crazy power, poor modulation. I had the same initial impression with my Bike Friday. However, it's not particular to small wheeled bikes. V-brakes feel this way on bikes of all different size wheels. Eventually you adjust to it, but V-brakes just don't have the same modulation that cantilever brakes do.
- AnonymousFebruary 27, 2011 at 8:08 PM
I owned a Brompton for a while and it does have a great, small fold. But for anything over 5 or 10 miles, I just could not get used to those small wheels. I found the bike uncomfortable and thought it took considerably more energy to propel than my large wheeled bike. Because of this, it didn't get enough use to justify keeping it. It has it's place, but not in my current situation. Proprietary parts and mediocre braking and the strange 2x3 gearing setup were also not to my liking. Fortunately, it sold quickly and the loss was minimal, so no regrets.ReplyDelete
I've admired the Moulton ever since the early 70s when my brother brought home the first Whole Earth Catalogue, which had an extensive writeup. The Moulton's suspension, which uses elastomers as springs, was revolutionary when it was introduced. That elastomer technology was put to use in some mountain bikes a dozen years ago but MTB technology has embraced different suspension systems.ReplyDelete
I'm eager to read your reviews.
The Moultons, old and new, are such cool looking bikes. They come up on ebay periodically, but so far I've resisted the temptation to bid.
I owned a Brompton for a while and it does have a great, small fold. But for anything over 5 or 10 miles, I just could not get used to those small wheels. I found the bike uncomfortable and thought it took considerably more energy to propel than my large wheeled bike. Because of this, it didn't get enough use to justify keeping it. It has it's place, but not in my current situation. Proprietary parts and mediocre braking and the strange 2x3 gearing setup were also not to my liking.ReplyDelete
Bromptons are known more for their ability to fold and be toted on trains than for their performance as long distance bikes. It has nothing to do with the small wheels, as there are plenty of people who tour the world on small-wheeled bikes.
I wonder what the reasoning behind Moulton's v-brake decision was if it is indeed so dangerous to have them.ReplyDelete
I wouldn't go so far as to call B-brakes dangerous! But they do take getting used to because it takes very little effort to lock up a wheel with a V-brake. And, they work best when paired with matched V-brake levers, which have greater cable pull.
I don't know exactly why the bike industry has adopted V-brakes so thoroughly, given that they aren't as easy to modulate as cantilever or sidepull brakes. They are unbelievably inexpensive compared to decent sidepulls or cantilever brakes (new Tektro V-brakes cost $20 for a complete front and rear set; Tektro cantis cost $60!) . I don't understand how any part of their design would make them cheaper to manufacture than other types of brakes, so maybe it is just a matter of economics of scale that make them so cheap. There are easily more V-brakes spec'd on new bikes than all other types of brakes combined.
hmm...i have seen moultons but not ridden one. the instability, i suspect, is due to the insufficient amount of 'trail' due to the small wheel diameter. anyone else sees the same thing? they'd have to reverse the fork rake to get more trail. it's like a toy bike to ride indoor.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousFebruary 27, 2011 at 9:48 PM
Richard Ballantine raves about the Moulton in his 21st Century Bicycle Book ("Many people will tell you that the Moulton is the finest bicycle in the world. They have a good case.") He makes an elaborate argument based on suspension, lightness, rigidity, and carrying capacity, but I have never completely understood the appeal. I have a Brompton myself and am a big fan.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousFebruary 27, 2011 at 9:53 PM
I think that if you spent a lot of time on the space frame bike you might find it more rigid. That is the big plus to space frame construction. You get to spread the forces out in all directions and take advantage of all sorts of beneficial geometry and triangulation. Look at the space frame in comparison to the F-Frame bike, the frame expands vertically, horizontally and triangulates between the tubes in all directions. A properly designed space frame in an airplane, racecar, motorcycle or whatever, compared to a structure of the of the same weight made of fewer members will always be more rigid(and can sustain a failure of one member without immediate catastrophic failure as in a single member structure). That's why the space frame on my home-made Lotus 7 replica weighs less and is more rigid than the Model A Ford type ladder frame on my Jalopy hot-rod. A monocoque structure can be lighter and more rigid yet, think big hollow crabon fiber. I just dont have the skill or equipment to build that sort of thing. Plus they tend to be sorta' unattractive to a mid/late 20th century guy like me.ReplyDelete
Please lets not start describing various brake configurations as being easy or difficult to modulate based on un-instrumented tests of groups smaller than, say, 1000 examples.
One of the reasons cantilevers can be so nicely modulated is that by varying the length of the straddle cable, you can adjust the mechanical advantage of the brake, but like every dang thing, there is a compromise to be made, Short straddle cable, lots of potential power but high effort, long straddle cable(I've seen them all the way from the canti arms to just below the stem or the rear cable hanger)nice low effort and infinite modulation, but you can run out of lever travel merely from pad wear. How many people bother to tune the modulation on cantilevers (or centerpulls, they work to the same principles)... One of the reasons there are so many Linear Pull Brakes(V brakes) on new bikes is you get to eliminate the hangers and the brakes can be installed without having to thread cables through anything but the noodle. Modulation is one of those things you can tune so easily if you take the time. Your V-Brake not providing enough modulation? If you are willing to give up some ultimate power(and they typically have way more than necessary), try an old style cable with a little compressability built in(Hhmmm, like the cables on old cantilever brakes that modulate so well?). Modulation, to a large degree, is a function of some forgiving flex in the system.
This was going to be a little fifty word post and jeez, look what it turned into. 2000 words of self-indulgent gassing. Sorry...
Warren, while it is true that reducing wheel diameter while keeping all other geometry variables equal will result in less trail, I doubt that's the Moulton's problem. I'm sure the designers took trail into account. Neither of the Moulton's shown above appear to have a lot of rake, so it's hard to say what kind of trail these bikes have.ReplyDelete
Besides, some people claim that low trail makes for a very stable ride, especially when carrying a front load; others claim it can feel "twitchy" when unloaded. It seems to be a preference as opposed to a rule.
My Bike Friday tandem has 20" wheels and generally low trail (somewhere in the 30s) and was designed to handle a front load, but it feels perfectly stable without a front load.
hmm...all these comments on brake modulation...this has more to do, again, with the small diameter wheel: having the end of the fork closer to the ground makes for a longer lever arm to rotate and pitch the rider forward when braking is applied.ReplyDelete
When Alex Moulton came out with his bicycles in the early '60's, he promoted them by getting racers to break records on them. Moulton claimed that the smaller wheels had much to do with the speed of those bikes. To this day, there are some who claim that smaller-wheeled bikes are faster for a number of reasons, including aerodynamics.ReplyDelete
I won't support or refute any of his claims. However, I should point out that the records that were broken were ones for particular courses and routes. Some of those records had not been challenged for decades before the racers on the Moultons broke them.
That said, I'd buy an older Moulton if the price were right. While I like the look of the new one (It makes me think of a bridge.), I don't find it compelling, at least not as a bike.
Bicycle Quarterly reviewed a Moulton bike in the Autumn 2010 issue, and also discussed the history and rationale of the design. I think anyone considering buying a Moulton would find that issue interesting reading, although the company was clearly unhappy with the conclusions reached in the review.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousFebruary 28, 2011 at 3:29 AM
I tend to think of Moultons the way I think of Robin Reliants, those ridiculous geeky three-wheeled cars (I don't think you have them in the States); I just look at them and ask: Why?ReplyDelete
Back in 1985 when I was the director of a museum in northern Sweden I made a summer exhibition on cycles using our hall of some 1200 square feet. Not about how nice it was to ride, but about different kinds of bicycles and the interaction of bicycle and man. We showed touring bikes, utility bikes, racing bikes and different kinds of paraphernalia as bars and derailers and talked about how they worked. Among the exhibits was a high-wheeler, a Svea bike from 1901, a Dursley-Pedersen, a Roulandt recumbent, a Leitra and of course also a new space-frame Moulton.ReplyDelete
Naturally, I tried all those bikes!
My own daily ride and base compare at the time was Old C, then quite young, a Centurion Super Tour from 1982 with a trail of 40 mm.
I used the Moulton on good roads and bad roads at home in Örnsköldsvik and not so little on asphalt and stone streets in Stockholm. On decent roads I could emulate the ride of Old C quite well. As good, but not better. The drawbacks were two: On bad roads the small wheels could not take irregularities as well. The suspension helped but some holes were simply the wrong size for small wheels to float over.In town the need to brake often was a problem. You can adjust the suspension, but either it was so hard as give no pleasure on the streets or so soft that the bike nose-dived when braking which I found unpleasant.
I think modern tires like the Hetres gives the same comfort without the disadvantages. I can see a couple of advantages though, the first being the possibility to quickly adjust it to different family members, the second it´s stowability. If these are important to you the Moulton is definitely better than an unsuspended small-wheeler, but I doubt that the space-frame is really a step forward from the original.
- AnonymousFebruary 28, 2011 at 6:21 AM
@summervillian -ReplyDelete
Bromptons are known more for their ability to fold and be toted on trains than for their performance as long distance bikes. It has nothing to do with the small wheels, as there are plenty of people who tour the world on small-wheeled bikes.
I am aware that people use small wheeled bikes for touring and have a friend who really has
'toured the world' on a Bike Friday with 20" wheels. But I do think the 16" wheel is inferior to a larger wheel in terms of comfort and ease of covering distances. I hear a lot of 'Brompton lust' in forums and wanted to temper it with my experience. As a multi-model travel aid over smoother roads, they are great, and some have used them for greater distances. But for me the bike is very specific, too niche, slow and uncomfortable.
I owned a Brompton for a while and it does have a great, small fold. But for anything over 5 or 10 miles, I just could not get used to those small wheels. I found the bike uncomfortable and thought it took considerably more energy to propel than my large wheeled bike. Because of this, it didn't get enough use to justify keeping it. It has it's place, but not in my current situation. Proprietary parts and mediocre braking and the strange 2x3 gearing setup were also not to my liking.ReplyDelete
I find my Brompton is great, even over longer distances. I find the small wheels take less energy to get up to speed than my larger-wheeled bikes, although they are more sensitive to the surface you are riding on. I find that the ability to fold it up and take it on any other form of transport makes me more ambitious with it; I know I'm not completely stuffed if something goes wrong with me or the bike whilst I'm far from home because I can always fold it and hop on a bus/train etc. I rode 20 miles to work this morning on mine and it was a pleasant enough experience too.
- AnonymousFebruary 28, 2011 at 8:10 AM
Warren, I think the tendency for small wheel bikes to want to pitch you off when you brake too hard is due to other things, like the center of gravity being so far above the axle(the fulcrum you pivot over on your way to that face-plant), the fact that these bikes tend to have such short wheelbases that place your weight that much closer to that front axle and other factors.ReplyDelete
The short distance between the axle and the brake shoes actually increases your body weights mechanical advantage to resist the forces that try to lever you off the bike. If you want to experience the opposite effect, ride a Penny-Farthing a little. The ability for the long lever created between the axle and the pathetically feeble spoon brake is more than the enough to overcome the little leverage your body has at it's disposal to resist it's diabolical plan to leave a negative impression of your face in the dirt.
You're right that some small wheel bikes have weird brake characteristics but super power isn't the root cause. The larger the wheel diameter the more leverage the brake has, that's why us fat guys put larger diameter discs on our mountainbikes to increase braking power.
I have three bicycles: a Brompton, a Giant 'Expression' hybrid/commuter with straight bars, upright position, hub gears & brakes, and a Mercian 'Triathlon' Audax style lightweight tourer with drop bars. The Brompton has 16" wheels, the others 700C. As regards steering, I notice that if I try to wheel each along using just a hand on the saddle, walking next to the bike, one steers easily and responsively just by leaning the bike a bit, one is difficult to deviate from a straight line, and one always falls over (well, almost always)ReplyDelete
Now, which do you think is which?
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Please lets not start describing various brake configurations as being easy or difficult to modulate based on un-instrumented tests of groups smaller than, say, 1000 examples.ReplyDelete
Well then, why don't we extend that suggestion to all aspects of the cycling experience... larger sample size would surely make all our anecdotal input more meaningful. Maybe once we get 1000 examples of direct comparisons between various Brooks saddles, or flat resistance between different tires, then these comments can all take on a new, more authoritative meaning. I guess until then, all these comments are purely worthless and... as you put it, gassing.
Justine Valinotti said...ReplyDelete
"While I like the look of the new one (It makes me think of a bridge.), I don't find it compelling, at least not as a bike."
Maybe that's what's disconcerting to me as well - I like the look of the frame, just perhaps not necessarily on a bike : )
Re the comparisons to Brompton - my first impressions of the two were nothing alike. If anything, the new Moutlon felt more like the D2R Boogie but with suspension, and the vintage f-frame felt a bit like the Raleigh Twenty.
- Phil MillerFebruary 28, 2011 at 12:23 PM
I like to wipe down my bikes whenever I clean and re-lube the chain: about once every week or two; or any day it's wet. (Same ethic as a horse; never ride 'em hard and put 'em away wet.) Wiping down that space frame seems like it would be a *pain*.ReplyDelete
Lateral stability on a *Bicycle*? Um, how much side force do you ever put on a bike? Wrestling it in and out of a comb bike stand is more side force than I ever put on it while riding, therefore I don't consider it contributing to ride quality.
- AnonymousFebruary 28, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Somervilian, Yeah, That did come out sounding dumb. I hope nobody took that personally cuz' it wasn't meant that way.ReplyDelete
Do you agree that sometimes the conventional wisdom about some of these things needs to be questioned though? I think this is one of those situations where the "word on the street" contains some truth but it's hidden under a layer of unscientific "fact" that is mis-leading and prevents real understanding.
There are real advantages and disadvantages to all the various types of bike brakes but they are all just variations of the same simple mechanism. Even the hydraulic versions use roughly the same ratios of mechanical advantage and they ALL have similar potentials. U-Brakes, V-Brakes, cantilevers, centerpulls and on and on can all be made to apply the same amount of force and if you make them strong enough and take the trouble to build in the characteristics you want they will all perform about the same.
I think I can back all this up if you want me to and I promise to try not to sound like such a jerk...
I don't get this smaller wheels easier to spin thing. Yes, it's true that the rotational inertia in this case is hugely dependent on the radius, and so on, but...ReplyDelete
Has anyone tried to spin a wheel off the ground? With a flick of the wrist, holding a single pedal, you can bring it to a million miles an hour so that the bike feels like it will vibrate apart (crappy wheels?). Anyway, it doesn't take much effort to spin a wheel. I think all the riding effort goes into overcoming the inertia of the rider, carrying mass up a hill or working against the wind, or lost to rolling friction. Maybe there's a slight aerodynamic advantage to small wheels, but come on. Spinning the wheels is so far down the list that it's negligible, whether they are 28" or 16".
MDI-- tell that to all the roadies I blow away at stop lights on my 20" wheeled Bike Friday tandem-- without the help of a stoker. It's true, I can "jump the line" faster than most of the hardcore commuters who crowd around at the stoplights and righteously expect to be the first off the line when the light turns. Most of them are surprised.ReplyDelete
In reality, I don't know how much of a difference there is, and it might not be much, but there is a difference that can I can feel.
Also, Jan Heine recently did a report on the gyroscopic effects of different wheel sizes on bike stability, and according to him, smaller wheels definitely have less gyroscopic inertia than larger ones.
As far as I am concerned the Moultons are as good as anything out there. I have a Focus Ergoride with 700c wheels and 25mm tyres. This bike is a difference experience (though not as comfortable as either of my Moultons and transmits road shock whereas the Moultons lose this in their suspension) which I thoroughly enjoy.ReplyDelete
My newest bicycle, a Pashley Guvnor is again different, very relaxed with road shocks damped with the tyres and the frame/forks.
I am not narrow minded and would consider many bicycles as each have their own characteristics, each of them being a different riding experience.
The Moulton Esprit, once used with it, is a joy, although jumping on it just after the Guvnor may cause panic attacks for a short time. After that it's second nature.
I have owned a vintage F-frameReplyDelete
Moulton, the same model as the blue one
described here. I liked it
but could not see any real advantage
for me, especially as they do not fold.
But here is a bike I do like:
It may not look to everyones taste,
but they are comfortable to ride all
day long (my wife and I have completed
three 4-month-long camping tours
carrying four panniers each in Europe
and Africa)
and they fold as quickly as a Brompton
(but not quite as small).
Like every bike there are tradeoffs.
They do not ride as well out of
the saddle as I would like, they
are not as stable on fast downhills
either, but you can take them on
any bus, which widens our cycling
horizons without the need for a car.
We just got back to the UK
from a weekend cycling
in Belgium with them :)
John I
Here is a Moulton you may like:
It is based on the original F-frame
concept but with modern components.
I personally prefer the ride of this
bike compared to the spaceframe Moultons.
John I
- AnonymousFebruary 28, 2011 at 4:33 PM
One month in and I am growing very fond of my Cannondale Hooligan 8. It doesn't fold and I certainly do not want or need it to: I only have a 2.1 mile commute on fairly benign public roadways and it navigates the hallways and fits in my office. People ask me about it.ReplyDelete
We go huge grocery shopping every three months and use a Ford Explorer to do that. We grow vegetables and I'm building a greenhouse on our lot. We use all different kinds of bikes to do fill-in shopping, but we're not perfect.
johni said...ReplyDelete
"Here is a Moulton you may like:
It is based on the original F-frame
concept but with modern components."
Hmm... I prefer the vintage f-frame. The new Bridgestone version has aluminum tubing with a unicrown fork and bent chainstays for starters, and there must be other subtle differences as well that are making me like it less.
sipelgas said...ReplyDelete
"...I think modern tires like the Hetres gives the same [suspension] comfort without the disadvantages. "
I agree. There are a few tires, such as Grand Bois Hetres, Schwalbe Fat Franks, and even the narrower Schwalbe Delta Cruisers that are great at swallowing road shock.
- AnonymousFebruary 28, 2011 at 6:55 PM
My wife and I have been riding AM7 spaceframe Moultons built in 1985 for the past 15 years. I also commute on a 1965 Moulton Standard. These are absolutely wonderful bicycles. They carry luggage with integrated racks, they can go as fast as we need, they're nimble and smooth. They can accommodate riders from 5'2" to 6'7", men or women. Moultons can be modified and customized to meet any rider's needs. The suspension on our 25 year old bikes work wonderfully. I'd suggest that before jumping to conclusions based upon extremely limited exposure, folks spend some time with these wonderful machines. They are an absolute joy to own and ride. Aaron Shapiro, Portland, MaineReplyDelete
- M. PewthersFebruary 28, 2011 at 7:38 PM
The nubby little cylinder at the top end of the brake noodle (see picture 7) is there to do exactly what Spindizzy described: add compressibility to the cable housing in order to increase modulation by requiring a greater length of cable to be pulled in order to reach maximum clamping force. The drawback of this device (it's just a spring that gets compressed between the brake housing and the noodle) is that it reduces the already small amount of clearance between brake pad and rim.ReplyDelete
Also, suspension is there to aid in stability, not detract from it. Sipelgas, however, highlights a notable deficiency in many suspension designs: brake dive. It seems a shame that the space frame Moulton's leading link fork doesn't eliminate this issue; perhaps the application of a drum brake anchored to the linkage would solve the issue. Just an armchair speculation.
- AnonymousFebruary 28, 2011 at 11:08 PM
I owned a '73 Raleigh Moulton. It was fun and it was fast and mostly it was practical. The big insurmountable problem was that riding on bad roads - Chicago - there were bumps and potholes that simply defeated the suspension. When you slam that little wheel into the far side of a pothole the small radius tire makes a sharper angle of contact than would a big tire. Result was starburst failure in the tire casing. Over and over. The small tires are real easy to change, but it gets old fast buying tires and needing to carry both tire and tube on every ride.ReplyDelete
Wouldn't be so big a problem if you simply rode slow. Or if you lived in wonderland with paved roads.
A fun bike, glad I tried it, promising but flawed.
One other thing: You have to keep your weight back. You can set it up so pitching over the front wheel is no more an issue than on a standard bike. You can also set it up carelessly so that pitching is an ever present danger.
Warren, I think the tendency for small wheel bikes to want to pitch you off when you brake too hard is due to other things, like the center of gravity being so far above the axle(the fulcrum you pivot over on your way to that face-plant), the fact that these bikes tend to have such short wheelbases that place your weight that much closer to that front axle and other factors.
Not quite... Your analysis requires a reference frame that accelerates (the front axle moves at different rates over time in your gedankenexperiment). There isn't really any pivot point for the over-the-bars maneuver; the rider's center of mass describes an oval shape, not a circle. The only external forces acting on the bike/rider system are gravity and static friction between the road surface and the tire, so at any point in time there is a effective pivot point, but that point is not at the front axle -- it's where the tire contacts the road. The small wheel does make it easier to go over the bars, but that's because it doesn't cause the rider to go up as high as the large wheel, decreasing the amount of energy required. It's also likely that the contact point of the small wheel is closer to the rider on the small-wheeled bike.
The short distance between the axle and the brake shoes actually increases your body weights mechanical advantage to resist the forces that try to lever you off the bike. If you want to experience the opposite effect, ride a Penny-Farthing a little. The ability for the long lever created between the axle and the pathetically feeble spoon brake is more than the enough to overcome the little leverage your body has at it's disposal to resist it's diabolical plan to leave a negative impression of your face in the dirt.
I'm afraid I don't follow here. Both the small-wheeler and the penny-farthing should make it easier to go over the bars than the "standard" bike. On the penny-farthing, the rider is up high, and quite far forward, minimizing the energy required to get him high enough to go over, and maximizing the effectiveness of the frictional force at the bottom of the wheel for doing so. On the small-wheeled bike, it's less extreme, but the reasons are the same, and it's all about geometry. Or are you just referring to the fact that the rim brakes are weaker the smaller the wheel gets?
I don't get this smaller wheels easier to spin thing. Yes, it's true that the rotational inertia in this case is hugely dependent on the radius, and so on, but...
It's not "rotational inertia" (angular momentum) that matters -- it's energy. And, it turns out that it's only so dependent on the radius because that effects the total mass of the wheel (assuming similar cross-section of rims/tires). No matter what size the wheel is, the point at the top is going twice the speed of the bicycle, and the point at the bottom is stationary. The energy advantage of the small wheel is that there's a lot less of it. Two wheel with the same mass should be roughly equivalent regardless of their size, in terms of the difference in energy required to accelerate the bike. Of course, in many cases, the smaller the wheel gets, the fatter and heavier the tire tends to get to provide a reasonably soft ride. Alex Moulton designed his bikes to have small wheels with narrow, high-pressure tires, and put the shock absorption in a suspension system instead of in the tires.
Has anyone tried to spin a wheel off the ground? With a flick of the wrist, holding a single pedal, you can bring it to a million miles an hour...
You must have much stronger wrists than I do. Anyway, pay attention to the gear you've got it in, and how fast the cranks are turning, rather than looking at the blur of the wheel spinning. I suspect that you haven't really got it going all that fast. Spin it even faster, and see how much difference that seems to make in your impression of how fast the wheel is spinning. Also consider this: the energy it takes to accelerate an object from 15mph to 20mph is 35 times as much as the energy it takes to get the same object from 0 to 5mph. These things are notoriously difficult for humans to estimate.
Velouria said:ReplyDelete
>I prefer the vintage f-frame.
>The new Bridgestone version
>has aluminum tubing with a
>unicrown fork and bent chainstays
I thought you would not like those
features, but I would suggest you ride
it before judging it.
My personal opinion is that it
is the nicest riding Moulton.
BTW, the original Moultons had straight
chainstays, but then they made them
bent because the original design was failing.
Alex Moulton openly regrets designing
the straight chainstay as a blunder
of form over function.
John I
Merlin: it's remarkably easy to get a regular bicycle wheel to 20 mph in the air.ReplyDelete
Merlin: Also, what does energy have to do with it? It's not like a bike wheel can store any significant amount of energy. You need a heavy flywheel for that. You can stop dead a high-spinning wheel in the air with the slightest brake application.ReplyDelete
I am not saying that big wheels are as easy to spin as small wheels, I am saying that big wheels are SO easy to spin that it doesn't matter one bit.
Actually I wanted to propose Moultons a while ago to Velouria, but then I thought she gets similar mails probably a dozen a day.ReplyDelete
We have 5 Moultons in the family and they are almost the only bicycles we ride (in the meanwhile). We use the them daily for commuting and shopping and touring.
I use an APB (as my TSR is not ready now, too many specialities built in) with a Rohloff Speedhub and my wife has a Bridgestone Moulton modified by Steve Parry (349 Wheels with disk brakes).
The Bridgestone is probably the fastest bicycle (with Scorcher tyres) we have, faster than a racer probably. And it has an innocent look. In summer I borrow it sometimes to give road racers a hard time.
As mentioned before, it doesn't make sense to just try out a Moulton when you have no experience using them. They show their benefits after you are used to it. What some call 'instable' I call lively. Since using Moultons only hit a fracture of the obstacles (like potholes) as on a big wheeler (maybe 10% or less) . And I did not get the feeling that going over the handlebar is a bigger problem than with a bigwheeler and all the Moulton rider I know tell the same. Also the V brakes are not different from other bicycles (in real life!).
And: Riding a Moulton is by far not similar to a Brompton. I prefer my Moulton especially on longer trips (this is for me >200km).
Also, what does energy have to do with it? It's not like a bike wheel can store any significant amount of energy. You need a heavy flywheel for that. You can stop dead a high-spinning wheel in the air with the slightest brake application.
It's energy that matters, rather than inertia. The rider of a bicycle has to do work (i.e. energy) in order to get the wheel spinning (and to get the bike moving). For traveling at a constant speed, this is irrelevant, but for accelerating, it matters.
Brakes are designed to give a lot of mechanical advantage, and they're meant to be able to stop both the wheel's rotation and the forward momentum of the rider. Of course it's trivial to stop a spinning wheel with a brake. Try doing it with your hand on the tire if you actually want to get a sense of how much angular momentum the wheel has (and, less directly, how much energy it has stored). Actually, please don't do that -- I wouldn't want you to get hurt.
My point is simply that your estimates (and mine) of what percentage of the bike's kinetic energy is stored in the wheels are not likely to be very accurate. And since we're basically talking about racing bikes (that was Alex Moulton's purpose, at least in part, with the small-wheel design), that makes a bigger difference. The reason is that kinetic energy is proportional to the square of the speed, and about half of each wheel has a speed nearly double that of the bicycle and rider. That means that the faster you go, the larger the percentage of the bike's energy is stored in the wheels.
Actually, it's very easy to measure the energy of a spinning wheel (albeit front). Turn on the 3W dynamo hub. The wheel will stop so quick your head will spin. :)ReplyDelete
Unfortunately, it's a real pain to spin up the front wheel anywhere fast.
Three watts is the output of the generator -- it doesn't tell you much about how much kinetic energy is stored in the wheel. If you know the weight of the rim, tire, and tube, you can make a pretty good estimate for a given speed (you can make a good guess about the diameter of the center of mass of a cross-section of each one.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousJune 10, 2011 at 12:30 PM
johni said...ReplyDelete
Velouria said:
BTW, the original Moultons had straight
chainstays, but then they made them
bent because the original design was failing.
Alex Moulton openly regrets designing
the straight chainstay as a blunder
of form over function.
John I
March 1, 2011 3:50 AM
In fact it is the other way round. The Series 1 had curved chainstays which twisted - in the UK Moulton Preservation can straighten and reinforce them. The series 2 and Mk3 had straight heavily reinforced chainstays, which are much tougher. I know because I've has all three models. Check Tony Hadlands books.
Fred in UK
Interesting debate
^ Just to clarify, that is not my quote about the chainstays, but John I's.ReplyDelete
Hey Fred,ReplyDelete
Yes, your right, I stand corrected.
Somehow I wrote this backwards....
John I
Moulton designed the rubber donut suspension in original Mini Coopers.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousOctober 2, 2012 at 6:03 PM
"See those V-brakes? Combined with small wheels and... these stop like crazy. Grab the brake just a little too much and the fork will go through the whole suspension range and off you go."ReplyDelete
Here speaks the voice of conjecture and no experience.
Well, my experience of riding 20 and 26 inch wheels extensively in all conditions is that there is little difference.
As for the idea of flying over the handlebars on a Moulton TSR, just try it - it is almost impossible - since the suspension is designed effectively as anti-dive. My Bike Friday NWT, on the other hand is LETHAL - I've been over three times - once in a flying arc attempting not to hit a moronic pedestrian, who stepped out sideways at the last moment into the road without looking. So for law suits , start with Bike Friday. It has nothing to do with small wheels, just bad front end geometry.
Overall the Moulton TSR is faster, more comfortable, stronger and safer than any Bike Friday I've tried, yet at the same time the frame is about 10 times more rigid (I travelled over 20,000km on a BF NWT).
The TSR is also much more comfortable, stronger, more stable over rough ground and just as fast as a same weight 700c. A spaceframe Moulton holds the WORLD SPEED RECORD for an upright bicycle.
The review above is really (almost satirically) weak - girl goes to shop, half tries a bike in snowy weather, and then presumes to evaluate it, lacking any imagination or insight. Ridiculous!
- AnonymousJune 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM
Hi, I just found your review of the Moulton TSR9. I have one of these as well as a very low price Dahon Vitesse folder, and a road bike.ReplyDelete
The UK price of the Moulton TSR9 is currently between £1200 and £1350 depending on the paint. It's a compact bike with front and rear suspension, a nine speed drive, V-Brakes, and flat handlebars. The suspension damping can be adjusted, it can be locked solid (with a spanner) or the preload can be adjusted for the rider's weight. The frame is nicely finished, but Moulton, even at this price range fit the bike with low price components – the derailleur is an SRAM long cage – a short cage would fit, but maybe Moulton believe riders may want to upgrade to a triple crank. V-Brake levers are low-price MTB Avids as are the V-brakes
There's no side-stand, and it's hard to fit one. There's no luggage rack and Moulton ones are pricey. There is an adjustable stem for a small range of height adjustment, but the bike will not suit the petite.
Cost cutting is evident all over the bike. The serial number is not stamped into the frame (that I could find) but is a sticker. Wheels and hubs are low price Quando cup and cone, as on the Dahon. Chainset is a low-price Sturmey Archer. There's no replaceable derailleur hanger – the frame needs a repair if you snap off the derailleur – unthinkable on a 21st century bike. The frame doesn't fold, but can be separated into two pieces. The star-nut cover on the fork tube is cheap plastic.
In comparison, the Dahon Vitesse has seven gears and a similar gear range, folds easily, has very similar components, is lighter than the Moulton, won't rust, and the derailleur hides under the chainstays. It's an altogether more complete design, rather than a series of compromises bolted to an expensive frame. It cost £350 new.
What the Moulton is then, is a hand-made anachronistic expensive Brit throw-back suspension frame, with low-priced components. It rides pleasantly, but so does the Dahon. Even at £1200 the Moulton needs a short cage derailleur to tidy up the rear wheel and prevent frame breakages, at least.
The problem is that the Moulton sells on its heritage. But 21st century bikes like the Dahon are similar equipped and more versatile. But, the Moulton has suspension. So, that's kind of where I'm at; A Moulton owner, but not an impressed one. I mostly still ride the Dahon.Replies
- PJ (in Australia)July 1, 2013 at 8:20 AM
I too have come to this thread rather late. I have a collection of 5 bikes built up over 30 or more years,ranging from a traditional tourer on which I have ridden from Lands End to John o' Groats with laden panniers to a lightweight Bianchi which I've raced and time trialled. I've also had a Moulton TSR30 since 2009 and I keep finding it to be my "go to" bike for all sorts of riding from local rides to 200 KM Audax rides to an ascent of Mt. Ventoux. And I have to say that coming down Mt. Ventoux was the fastest descent I've ever made, feeling totally in control. It's as fast and at least as stable as a conventional bike but much more comfortable over a longer distance. I don't see any signs of cost cutting on my particular bike. Campagnolo Centaur gears and Chorus crank set, Miche hubs, Alex rims etc... And I have a rear luggage rack and front pannier rack. But prices may have increased with the weaker British Pound. The separated bike fits into 2 bags that fit the luggage racks of Eurostar and other European trains. I would probably say that if I could only one bike the Moulton would be a serious contender. It's good to see that cyclists comprise a broad church and we're all individuals. ;-)Delete
- AnonymousOctober 20, 2013 at 9:12 AM
If you care about what you ride, you would judge it based on how the moultons ride, not judging it based on some preconceived idea about what bikes should look like or what lawyers would think.ReplyDelete
Brompton and moulton are very different bikes built with different objectives. The vbrakes being dangerous on small wheels is a silly comment.
A few moultons came into my possession not by virtue of being expensive. I also have a Raleigh twenty, a bikefriday tandem i share with my daughter. And countless full size italian racers from bygone era. If i had to choose just one, it will likely be one of the Moultons.


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John W. Eyster: 'Do we still believe in Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream?'
In the midst of the swirling celebrations, observations, marches, speeches around the 50th anniversary of the "MARCH ON WASHINGTON" of August 28, 1963, I was grabbed and CHALLENGED by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's editorial published last Tuesday, "Do we still believe in Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream?"
I read the editorial and was left with consternation and concern.� I invite you to read the editorial and share your thoughts through comments.� BE ASSURED I shall be reading and considering your comments.
I would also encourage you to access the editorial online to see the complementary list, "Related MLK Coverage" with a wide-range of perspectives.
The editorial challenges us asking whether we still believe in the dream or whether it has become just, "…in the immortal phrasing of Langston Hughes — another dream deferred?"� The editorial has special relevance for us since it brings the issues home to Wisconsin – Milwaukee.
I agree with the editorials assertion, "King's speech was a catalytic moment, a masterpiece of oratory by perhaps the greatest of American orators. Listen to it now, watch it now and you will be moved just as powerfully as were the thousands on the Mall that day. Just as powerfully as the nation was moved to action in the succeeding years."� I agree with a recommendation made on Wisconsin Public Radio that one should LISTEN to the "I Have the Dream Speech" rather than read it.� It was written for oral delivery.
The editorial provides a list of issues TODAY which continue to challenge the principles and fulfillment of King's DREAM.
The Editorial challenges us, "Injustice and oppression come in many forms and will always reinvent themselves, which is why injustice and oppression must be fought continually. Fifty years later, we must still hold on to King's dream and join him in his belief that:
"'When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every tenement and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old spiritual, 'Free at last, free at last. Thank God Almighty, we are free at last.'"
There are many, many media reports on the 50th anniversary speeches and other events.� I got a real surprise when I read a "confession" by associate editor Robert G. Kaiser, "An overlooked dream, now remembered," in the Washington Post last Friday, August 23.� The promo on the Post's website reports the gist of the article, "'We blew it:' How the Post missed the 1963 'Dream.'"� The article describes the Capital City on that Wednesday, August 28, 1963 to explain why the Post "missed" reporting on the "DREAM" speech.
Kaiser reports, "The Post, however, got embarrassed. The main event that day was what we now call the 'I Have a Dream' speech of Martin Luther King Jr., one of the most important speeches in U.S. history. But on the day it was given, The Post didn't think so. We nearly failed to mention it at all.
"We were poised and ready for a riot, for trouble, for unexpected events — but not for history to be made. Baker's 1,300-word lead story, which began under a banner headline on the front page and summarized the events of the day, did not mention King's name or his speech. It did note that the crowd easily exceeded 200,000, the biggest assemblage in Washington "within memory" — and they all remained 'orderly.'
"In that paper of Aug. 29, 1963, The Post published two dozen stories about the march. Every one missed the importance of King's address. The words 'I have a dream' appeared in only one, a wrap-up of the day's rhetoric on Page A15 — in the fifth paragraph. We also printed brief excerpts from the speeches, but the three paragraphs chosen from King's speech did not include 'I have a dream.'
"I've never seen anyone call us on this bit of journalistic malpractice. Perhaps this anniversary provides a good moment to cop a plea. We blew it."� Confession is good for the soul.� THANKS for the information and perspective, Robert G. Kaiser!
YOU can read the full transcript of President Obama's remarks yesterday at the Washington Post, "Remarks by the President at the "Let Freedom Ring" Ceremony Commemorating the 50th Anniversary of the March on Washington."
The video of the full program at The Lincoln Memorial is available from several sources online.� I recommend the very credible source, C-SPAN which has the FULL 5 hours available.� You can use this link to watch the video, "50th Anniversary of March on Washington."
I myself pray with the audacity of hope that we do TRULY & EARNESTLY still believe in Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream!� What do YOU think?
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John W. Eyster lives in the Edgerton area. He is an adjunct professor assigned with the online/distance education faculty of Viterbo University, LaCrosse. He continues his personal mission supporting democracy/civics education in Wisconsin K-12 schools through Project Citizen, We the People, Discovering Democracy (Milton HS). John is a community blogger and is not a part of The Gazette staff or management.


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This is in response to the letter about defending the celebration of Christmas in our society (Dec. 21) by Don Helbig, Beloit.
Thomas Jefferson and James Madison wanted to include separation of church and state in the U.S. Constitution and even wrote and submitted an amendment as part of the Bill of Rights, but the other Founders believed it was unnecessary. They just did not foresee a need to do so; that religious fanatics would try to impose their religion on government and other people.
Jefferson and Madison saw otherwise, and you have proven them correct. I do not much care what people say to me—happy holidays or merry Christmas—but it is inappropriate for public employees and private employees to say merry Christmas while on the job and dealing with the public.
What really galls me as a professional historian is when conservative and/or tea party Republicans mangle, misinterpret or try to rewrite the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights or what the Founders actually believed to fit their narrow-minded or warped views.
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When we created the 41 Express, we set out to offer more than anyone thought possible in a boat of its size. We asked people who own a Rampage what features they like and what new features they'd like to see. We asked professional anglers about fishing equipment and how to optimize the flow of movement around the cockpit. And we asked our expert engineers and designers what boundaries they'd like to push. The result. Not simply the finest sport fishing yacht in its class - but the twofinest. The 41 Express, a serious fishing vessel fully rigged for any sized water or catch. The 41 Open, is a crossover boat whose performance affords the flexibility to fish with command or cruise in comfort.More…11
Tige RZX32018Request Price
First-class style and first-in-class innovation are just two ways the award-winning RZX3 sets the bar. The RZX3 is recognized as one of the world's best wakesurfing and wakeboarding boats on the market by the WakeWorld Riders Choice Awards. That's because RZX3 goes big, not just in size, but in performance, versatility, luxury, storage, and freeboard. Simply put, the RZX3 is the best of the best in every aspect imaginable.More…7
Tige R202018Request Price
Take the wheel of the all-new Tige R20 and you'll realize that it is far more than basic. The R20 offers Tige's tradition of innovation, versatility and quality with a pocket friendly price tag. Designed with both towing and performance in mind, the 20-footer is easy to tow, easy to own and an absolute blast to ride.More…4
Tige Z12018Request Price
What can the Z1 do? You name it. It's versatile, innovative, and the perfect example of how a traditional bow model can think outside-the-box. Featuring stand-out-from-the-crowd styling and advanced technology, the Z1 is ready to deliver on the prestigious reputation of the Tige Z Series.More…6
Tige R222018Request Price
Style. Space. Versatility. Efficiency. It's all right here in the R22. Built on the patented Convex V Hull and with our legendary craftsmanship and quality standards, the R22 is a Tige through and through. This aggressively priced model will perform on a dime whether you're wakesurfing, wakeboarding, waterskiing, or just cruising the lake.More…6
Cruisers Yachts 35 Express2018Request Price
Aboard the 35 Express by Cruisers Yachts, you'll find the best of both worlds of boating. Incredible sports performance paired with elegant, beautiful and comfortable details deliver an excellent adventure for you and your guests. The attention to detail on the 35 Express cannot be underestimated. You'll find the space, storage and lush materials that make this yacht something truly special.More…9
Pursuit DC 365 Dual Console2018Request Price
The stylish Dual Console line includes the DC 365. More comfort, innovation and features have been engineered to bring your sport utility experience to the next level. Forward bow and port side lounge seating, a swivel seat at the helm and patent-pending fold away seating at the transom and under the gunwale give your crew a comfortable place to enjoy whatever type of water activities you choose. Features include a large tempered glass windshield with walkthrough, wide walkways from bow to stern and plenty of large storage compartments. Instrumentation and controls at the helm are ergonomically engineered and an optional Garmin electronics suite makes the DC 365 a joy to operate. The cabin is easily accessible with a fiberglass door and features solid wood accents with modern finishes, a full berth forward and a comfortable aft berth. A small family or couple may overnight with basic amenities for the weekend. Hull side windows reveal plenty of natural light below. Foldaway seating quickly transforms a social venue to a wide-open, fish-ready cockpit with hull side door, livewell, gunwale mounted rod holders and insulated fish-boxes in the floor.More…2
Pursuit DC 295 Dual Console2018Request Price
The Pursuit DC 295 builds on an award winning product design that has delivered unparalleled style, performance and amenities in the popular dual console category. Integrated hardtop, a crystal–clear laminated windshield, convertible seating arrangements and product specific storage are a few of the highlights arriving in Pursuit's next luxury dual console. Paired with dependable Yamaha outboards, the DC 295 conveys a message of superior design, engineering and construction synonymous with Pursuit.More…10
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