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Ford Freestyle - Taurus X
The Taurus X has a big advantage in the more modern electronics such as SYNC, Navigation, and the rear Family Entertainment System.
However, if you don't want these, the FS has an advantage in price and fuel economy. OTOH, many people have trouble finding anyone to repair the CVT, even if it's covered by warranty.
A used TX may be fine, even as a former rental, if you get enough warranty. We bought my wife's Freestar minivan that way with a bumper-to-bumper 100K warranty, with the car at only 15K miles. The warranty lists like $3K, but you can bargain them down to well under $1500, especially by quoting web sources that sell the same Ford warranty for that. Overall, the Freestar at a year old was about 60% of new, even adding the warranty.
The bench seats in the second row are nicer for the console and comfort. But if you need 7 passengers, get the bench.
In my case, I got the bucket seats and console. My kids prefer the third row, where they can sit up high because of command seating. However, the little rascals don't always bother with the flip seats and often just jump like monkeys over the second row seats, folded down or not. They have lots of room in front of them to look around. Like the back of the bus when you were a kid. For bigger people the bucket seats in the second row are indeed nicer. Each can recline independently and there's a console and cup holders, etc.
mfkoerschner Posts: 6I've never driven the Tx - but I'm very pleased with our 2005 Fwd FS. We leave the 40 portion of the 40/60 2nd seat down and the kids (9 & 7) step in no problem. We also have a 2 year-old who sits in the anchored seat directly behind the driver.
I like that the 3rd row on the FS are vinyl. Spilled the chocolate milk? No worries.
I like the CVT and view it as an enabling technology for the future - which I believe to be electric engines. We live in a VERY hilly/mountainous area and that played into my desire for the CVT. I do a lot of biking and wish I had a CVT on my bike.
I think the improved fuel economy of the 3.0 w/CVT is worth it. There's plenty of power there. On fuel, the Fwd FS is competitive with anything out there that hauls 7 - beats most actually. 10% improvement is a lot at $4/gallon.
bobw3 Posts: 2,992I have an '05 FS FWD with 62,000 miles and I agree with you. The CVT is smoother than auto transmission and you can use the cruise on hilly and even mountain areas on the highways and the CVT will gradually increase/decrease RPMS as needed, versus the hard up and downshifts of an auto.
And I've had 29mpg on highway trips if I keep the speed between 65-70mph. I have a 2500 mile road trip coming up this fall and I'm going to keep the speed at the posted speed limits to see if I can break 30mpg. Around town I get 20-23mpg consistently and it's rare that it ever goes below 20mpg.
Personally I'd never buy the TX because the added HP and reduced MPG aren't worth it to me. Plus the price is too high in comparison to other vehicles. When I bought my FS, it cost me $25K and there wasn't much competition out there back in '05 for a 3 row vehicle that could hold adults in all rows with this MPG and price.
I plan on keeping my FS for many more years (no major problems so far), but if I was in the market, I'd look at a Mazda5 on the small end or a Honda Odyssey at the large end. You can get a well-equipped Odyssey for the same price as a TX and get more space and better mpg with the Odyssey. There are a lot of full-sized crossovers out there, but if I'm going to spend $30K then I'd rather get a minivan with better MPG and more space.
Did you ever find a solution for this? The same thing is happening to me. A very audible clicking sound that comes from somewhere behind the glovebox. When I start the car in the morning it clicks about 5 times and then stops. It happens after I start the car later in the day, but not all the time (more than 10% though).
I have an '05 FWD Ford Freestyle. When I start hte car in the morning I hear a very audible clicking noise that seems to originate somewhere behind the glovebox area. It clicks about 5-6 times and then stops as I slowly accelerate. If I start the car later in the day, it's not guaranteed that it will happen, but probably does 30-40% of the time.
Has anyone one else encountered this or know where it's coming from?
Any help/direction would be much appreciated
elibruno Posts: 16had this same noise and Ford dealer quickly diagnosed and fixed it under warrantee - it is some type of A/C machinery part that Countryside Ford of Clearwater told me is common, not dangerous and easy to replace part. So discuss it with your service dept and tell them where I got quick resolution!
Should current Freestyle owners be upset about this? Ford found a way to get more power and fuel economy out of the 1995-vintage Duratec V6 design. I have an '05 Freestyle with 203 HP and 18/25 EPA rating (new rating method here), and the '09 Ford Escape is getting a 240 HP version of the same engine that is said to get 1 MPG more. Since the basic engine design goes all the way back to the early 90's, why couldn't Ford have "discovered" the way to make this engine more powerful and slightly more fuel efficient just 4 years earlier, in time to take away the critics of the Freestyle who say 203 HP is just not enough.
I wonder if Ford will allow me to trade my 203 HP 3.0L Duratec for the new 240 HP one? Should bolt right in. A little extra power with more fuel economy is always welcome.
Also, why not drop the 240 HP 3.0L Duratec in to the Taurus & TaurusX for more fuel economy with gas at $4 per gallon? That would give the Ford Edge the more powerful, newer 3.5L Duratec for some differentiation with the TaurusX at least, making the Edge the "sporty" one and the TaurusX the more serious utility model. Ford would still have the larger Flex with the newer/bigger V6; more differentiation there for the luxury crossover. Ford, are you listening to my wise opinion? ;-)
ronsmith38 Posts: 228Who knows, maybe the only difference is a new chip!
stevedebi LAPosts: 4,098" I have an '05 Freestyle with 203 HP and 18/25 EPA rating (new rating method here), and the '09 Ford Escape is getting a 240 HP version of the same engine that is said to get 1 MPG more."
I think ford has added a version of VVT to the new engine, that technology wasn't available until this year for the 3.0.
Also, note that the Escape is 600 lbs (at least) lighter than the FS, and the engine might not yield the same 1 MPG advantage in your FS.
Any "engine swap" would also have to modify the CPU code so that the transmission and engine were matched correctly.
Replying to the last post, remember that the variable valve timing version of the venerable 3.0L Duratec was available in Jaguars and Lincoln LSs since about 2002, and even the lower-cost 2006 Fusion had the VVT version of the Duratec V6.
I got some more info on what Ford did to evolve the 3.0L Duratec for the '09 Escape from Motor Trend: new intake and exhaust manifold shapes, new fuel injectors, higher compression ratio ( I think from 10.0 to 10.3), new heads, variable valve timing, and revised valve cams. Those changes would have been great just a little earlier. Ford could not find the budget to do this over the period from 1994 to 2007 to the Duratec 3.0L V6 while it was being put into everything on the planet. Now other V6s are taking over where it used to be, while the 3.0L V6 finds its way into fewer and fewer applications. Maybe it will make a comeback as fuel efficiency gets priority. Fusions and Escapes still get it, although Taurus no longer has it.
mschmal Posts: 1,757I think the new features for the 3.0L Duratec were thing that Ford developed for the 3.5L engine and then has adapted backwards to the 3.0L.
The 2001 Jaguar S-type had a 240 hp 3.0L Duratec version. Mazdas have had a variable valve timing version for a few years now. Also, remember the 3.5L is a new and completely different design compared to the old 3.0L Duratec. Not sure where the new '09 Ford Escape 240 hp version came from. Its difficult to follow, but the design history, dating back to the 1994 Ford Mondeo, is at Duratec history to now link
jimhalpert Posts: 3Can anyone tell me how to disable the Freestyle alarm? Thanks so much!!
Current rebates are up to $5000!
Ford's own website says you can only get $2000 owner-loyalty rebate (which means you have to already own another Ford/Mercury of '98 or newer model), or you can get $1500 cash rebate for non-current Ford owners, and then you can add $500 to that if you finance through Ford Credit. Nowhere near $5000. You might be looking at what some dealership contributes extra, which means they just jack the price up by the extra amount, so you can't win that one.
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Confirmed with the Ford dealer today $5K off! We were talking about at least $5.5K below the invoice price likey more, but a Ford Program Car maybe even a better deal.
Prices are very soft on Ford Products!
It was just extended to 9/2/08!
This probably belongs in Prices TaurusX Forum Discussion click here
Has anyone had any problems with the Taurus X?
raezmom3 Posts: 20I received my Taurus X in May and drove it cross country ( Florida to California). It was great and such a comfortable drive especially with 3 kids. I haven't had any problems with it. The only thing I didn't like is that I was not able to purchase a box for the roof rack. Manufacturer does not recommend having one on the vehicle. Overall I really love my TX.
My Taurus X has been great for the six months I've had it now. Everything about it is wonderful. I've driven it 2500 miles across country on a mountain biking trip with camping gear and four bikes on the hitch. It had lots of room, we could even see out the rear window. The comfort was like riding first class for everyone. I've also taken the family of five on trips, and also had six bikers on a two hour carpool with six bikes on the car (four on the hitch, two on the roof) all six big bikers in full comfort.
The electronics are super, as well as the car engineering.
The Taurus really is a secret phenomena that's a super deal right now.
See more details on my very extensive review of the Taurus X here.
(PS. My Taurus X Limtied is Ice Metallic Blue, not red like in the pictures.)
Actually, you can get a roof rack and carry a cargo box. The roof rack is limited to 125 lbs. I got a 16 cubic foot cargo box (Yakima SkyBox Pro 16) which at 45 lbs allows me to carry about 80 lbs of light but bulky goods like clothes and sleeping bags. The cargo box has almost zero effect on mileage, less than 0.5 MPG from what I can tell. This is because I mount the box fairly far back, in the slip stream.
I also carry two big mountain bikes on the roof, along with four on the back hitch, to go with the six riders in the car.
The only issue is getting cross bars to go on the back part of the rails that aren't raised. Ford's cross bars won't be out until the end of the year, if then. The solution I and others have used for the cross bars is discussed in detail here.
cmuniz Posts: 604I have had no troubles at all in 9 months and 13,000 miles. Just got back from a 3,800 mile trip from Texas to California. It did great. Average mpg was 25.2 and that included a lot of miles thru Utah canyons, Death Valley and the Sierra Nevadas. I discovered that the 6 spd transmission has a great "hill holder" feature that automatically downshifts when going downhill to hold the speed. It works even better if you press the "O/D" button on the shifter. It surprised me how well it worked. Very similar to how the CVT did on the Freestyle.
makenasdad Posts: 11No problems after 14,000 miles. I've been very happy with the X.
"... average mpg was 25.2 .." (TaurusX highway MPG)
Under those same conditions, the Freestyle probably gives 27 MPG in my own experience and what others report, in addition to EPA MPG comparisons. I'll take the 3.0L with the CVT, especially in hilly or mountain driving here in the Rockies. That CVT is unbeatable when varying ratios like butter up and down hills.
If Ford knew gas would be hovering near $4/gallon now, they would have reduced the bore in the new 3.5L V6 to make it around 3.0L, like the old V6, and made the TaurusX beat everything out there on fuel economy. Add direct injection and get another 1 MPG out of it (as Acadia/Outlook/Traverse are doing now) with more power. Then, the TaurusX could beat the old Freestyle on fuel economy.
Discussing our experiences with the Freestyle/TaurusX's V6s, remember Ford plans to put something like the Mazda CX7 4-cylinder turbo 2.3L (or so, maybe a 2.0L) into the future CUVs in the Freestyle/TaurusX/Explorer class. Currently, the CX7, a smaller CUV, running direct injection, a turbo, and VVT, gets horrible fuel economy. I don't know how Ford will change that with the Ecoboost theme of putting 4-cylinders in where smoothe V6s used to be, but stay tuned. We may be telling youngsters in a few years that the glory days of smoothe V6s were better than the followong period of thrashy 4-cylinders, so enjoy your V6 while it lasts.
Great feedback!
It looks like this car is mostly trouble-free.
stever Posts: 52,683
I can see the TaurusX/Sable getting axed. The Edge and the Flex fill the size classes OK. However, sales figures so far in the first month for the new Flex are dismal. Looks like the Flex's controversial love/hate style is more hate than love for most folks. The Edge sells well, but Ford needs both to sell well!
volkov Posts: 1,306But much like the Freestyle and Taurus X, I've havent seen any advertising support for the Flex in Canada. I'll bet most consumers don't even know about it.
bdyment Posts: 570I don't think it is the style but the fact it is the wrong vehicle for the times. It is too big, too heavy and does not give the gas mileage that people want these days,
brian_in_md Posts: 8We just picked up an 08' Taurus X SEL FWD, with leather, SYNC, SEL Interior Convenience and Power Packages, 50/50 3rd row, and Sirius for $26,400 inc freight - about $2k under invoice. For the feature content, practicality, safety, and yes - efficiency (given the vehicle size), I think it's a screaming bargain.
We had to replace our ~8 year old MPV, and like many families, we need the space of a full size vehicle with three rows. As much as I like more efficient people movers like the Mazda5 and the Kia Rondo, they are simply too small (good luck getting two or more hockey gear bags, cooler, and folding chairs behind the third row in either of those cars). Not to mention the third rows in those vehicles are clearly kid-sized only, which limits their usefulness IMO.
As for the fuel mileage of the Taurus (and Flex for that matter), relative to the competition, it's right in line or better. Show me another full size, 7 ADULT seat vehicle that is more fuel efficient (and I'm not talking about insignificant 1mpg differences either).
The fact is, there will always be a market for vehicles like this. There will always be people that need the space, and can afford the gas, even at $4/gal. Let's also not forget that people getting out of big body-on-frame truck-based SUVs like the Expedition or Suburban will see the mileage of the Taurus-X / Flex as a huge improvement.


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I love this outfit! The print on that blouse is fantastic and all the colors you paired together are so fun!ReplyDelete
And I love pants- which is a weird statement to make (almost as weird as relating wearing them to getting a rash), but I stand behind it. :-)
I'm working on some 40s pants right now, because I came to the same conclusion!!! And your blouse is AMAZING!ReplyDelete
Your jeans are such a fabulous colour!ReplyDelete
That blouse is fantastic!!! Loving the look!ReplyDelete
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I really like the colour of your jeans and the print of the blouse. I would like more trousers but I find that they are the most difficult item of clothing to get to fit right and I so often lose patience trying them on. Good luck on your hunt!ReplyDeleteReplies
there is DEFINITELY a reason I had stopped wearing pants in the first place. So many horrible memories of going jeans shopping with my mom as a teen, sobbing in frustration. As an adult I ended up just saying the hell with them completely. I will say, the hunt is still challenging as ever. (Of course minus the teenage woe, and plus grown ass woman acceptance if it doesn't happen.) still... even these aren't perfect. (Seriously 50s frump mom butt.) But oh well, it is what it is!!Delete
Is there something, I wonder, in the water these days because suddenly, and veryyyy uncharacteristically for me, I seem to be on a pants kick, too. The blasted things almost never look good on my body, unfortunately, but occasionally I'll find a pair like my long beloved Freddies jeans that do and so I've been sporting them, and along with the few other pairs I have, a ton in the past few weeks (including on the trip to and from Vancouver last month).ReplyDelete
You look awesome!!! I love the combo of green pants and a yellow shirt. It's makes me think of daffodils, sunflowers and buttercups, all of which you look as beautiful as. Inspiring outfit - believe it or not, even amongst my meager number of trousers, I have green ones, so I think I might just have to give partnering them with a sunshine hued top a spin myself.
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The month of March has a reputation for being tempestuous, with its precipitation giving way to the new blooms of spring. In many ways, March is analogous to Shameless; it's bluster and turbulence often a conduit for something more charming. It seems only fitting that Shameless' writers will reconvene in March to begin penning season eight.
Amidst rumors of non-renewal and salary disputes, the finale of season seven felt, well, more final than the season finishers have in the past. The ending sequence of "Requiem for a Slut" showed the Gallaghers each achieving personal successes; Fiona purchasing an apartment building, Lip determined to go back to college, Ian saving lives at work, and Debbie in school for welding (Carl and Frank were busy spray painting Monica's name in tribute, but I digress).
Though some may believe that Shameless made it's mark by being edgy and pushing the envelope, I disagree. At its best, Shameless delves deep into the lives and psychological motivations of flawed but endearing individuals. After shifting into the comedy category following season five, that emotional exploration waned dramatically. Instead of feeling layered and robust as the characters had in seasons prior, their development was kept on the surface, more shallow than the gritty representation viewers had grown so fond of.
There's a certain level of commitment in fans, who watch a show for years, but there is also a degree of expectation. While pulling back on drama may have paid off in awards (William H. Macy won a Screen Actors Guild Award for his portrayal of Frank Gallagher), it did not do justice to the arcs of these characters that the audience has grown so close to. It seems that in order to keep the forward momentum in a well-weathered show, the writers' best bet would be to retreat backwards to the show's beginnings and put a focus on the characters' internal motivations rather than external commotion.
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Sunday, July 4, 2010
Me Then and Now
This poem was written in the year 2000. Since then I have aged in a multitude of ways. I am confined to a wheelchair, have been ill any number of times, am in pain much of the time with all the problems associated with pain control. Am I happy? Yes, almost always, blessed with children who not only take superb care of me, but who are also delightful company. My only sadness is mourning my dear Otto. I love my new little house and am enjoying redecorating and furnishing it. I am surrounded by music, both live, due to my talented son Otto and beloved daughter-in-law Kristin, who live just acrosss the street from me.
I thought the world was mine.
I thought that I could swim in any ocean.
Clouds below were my familiar landscape.
How could I know that wings that carried me
would be landlocked, horizons shrink and borders close forever?
Oil executives
I object!
It's my life that you circumscribe.
I miss my world!
Your oil is running short; so too my years
and I am bitter with thwarted expectations.
I know that somewhere children starve.
Their eyes rebuke my selfishness.
But oh! I want my steaming jungles, jangle
of unknown tongues, smells of roasting coffee,
lights of a city never seen before that mark
a thousand homes in each of which
I live a lifetime
for a moment.
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- keith hillman said...
It's so good to see you back Phyllis, I've missed your contributions so much. Your poem is so poignant, so thought provoking.Keep smiling, just as you are in your picture!
- July 4, 2010 at 2:09 PM
- Greyscale Territory said...
Living a lifetime for a moment! That is such a beautiful thought!
Like Keith, I am so thrilled to see your wonderful ideas again! I have always enjoyed your journeys!
Have a happy week!
- July 4, 2010 at 2:15 PM
- anthonynorth said...
Always a pleasure to visit. So much wrong, but we must always retain that optimism.
- July 4, 2010 at 2:35 PM
- Nara said...
It's amazing how much your poem still fits the circumstances. I can relate to that feeling of shattered illusions.
I'm glad you find happiness despite the trials. :)
- July 4, 2010 at 6:07 PM
- Rinkly Rimes said...
With your approach to life I'm sure you bring happiness to all those around you even though you may not always find it yourself. Like the others, I'm pleased to see you back again.
- July 4, 2010 at 6:58 PM
- oldegg said...
Ten years and we still haven't learned much have we? What a blessing it is you have your loved ones so close to you.
- July 4, 2010 at 11:58 PM
- Understanding Alice said...
hey granny - i really liked this - the tension between our me and the me the world fences us in to be.
Just to warn you, you are getting spam - that comment above old egg is NOT a real comment its a link to some sort of porn site - i get spammed with them too.
- July 5, 2010 at 3:48 AM
- Susan Helene Gottfried said...
Even without your intro, I'd have felt your pain and anger in this piece. I've started grappling with how difficult aging is -- I can't imagine being where you are. And yet, I hope I make it that far (and as nicely, too).
- July 5, 2010 at 4:44 AM
- Linda Jacobs said...
What a wonderful attitude you have! Your poem expresses such truth about living. I especially like the line containing "jungles, jangle"!
- July 5, 2010 at 5:59 AM
- Marianne said...
You've been in my thoughts for quite some time, on a daily basis sending greetings and hoping all is well... relatively speaking, eh? have missed you.
Many gentle hugs to you.
- July 5, 2010 at 7:40 AM
- Divaa Divine said...
Granny this was an exceptional read ! made my heart melt!
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- July 5, 2010 at 10:57 AM
- bunnygirl said...
I can so relate to this. We're raised to believe the world's our oyster, but in truth, there are many forces - both natural and unnatural, who deny us the privilege.
It's great to see a post from you!
- July 5, 2010 at 10:32 PM
- Maggie May said...
We are all living in the confinements of our illnesses/conditions and it is very frustrating and sad at times.
However, apart from missing Otto, I am pleased that you are mainly happy. It is attitude of mind that helps us to overcome our limitations. Bless you in your new home.
Maggie X
Nuts in May
- July 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM
- linda may said...
Ah Granny what can I say. You have lived your magical life and seen things around the world that others envy and you have lived a life of great love. I am so sorry that nowadays you are unable to do that still. We are all part of the cycle. If you were finished with already you wouldn't be here still my darling. So there is more to come.
There will always be things wrong with the world, if one problem is solved another always takes it's place. I know that does not mean we should excuse. We are all only human.
Wonderful post and poem. Love You.
- July 6, 2010 at 11:25 PM
- 王名仁 said...
It takes all kinds to make a world.............................................................
- July 8, 2010 at 3:36 PM
- 葉瑞 said...
在你一無所有的時候 是誰在陪伴你 他便是你最重要的人............................................................
- July 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM
- nonizamboni said...
Dear Phyllis--glad you're still able to see the beauty and feel the love in spite of all you've been through. Sending you all good wishes and a hug. You are always in my thoughts, dear one!
- July 12, 2010 at 5:12 AM
- JasonBirk佳琪 said...
Readiness is all.............................................................
- July 12, 2010 at 8:52 PM
- Shyam said...
Dear Granny, you are just so amazing... I love your writing, it's always beautifully phrased, whether it's a poem, a short story or just an anecdote. Your children and family and friends are so darn lucky to have you! I hope you will soon feel better, I'm terribly sorry to hear that you are/have been unwell...
- July 13, 2010 at 10:45 PM
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- July 15, 2010 at 3:09 AM
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- July 17, 2010 at 6:42 PM
- Lanie said...
I can relate to this poem so much. beautifully written
- July 17, 2010 at 10:51 PM
- Winifred said...
Nice to hear from you again and pleased you are happy in your new home.
I do love that poem. Very thought provoking.
Take care.
- July 18, 2010 at 4:48 PM
- Lisa said...
A life well lived and through your words I can feel the grace and passion that you lived your life. How nice to have the support of your loved ones in your life.
- July 19, 2010 at 9:56 AM
- Marsha said...
we live a lifetime for a moment....I like this a lot. I've had a few amazing moments scattered across the lifeline. I want more of them! thanks.
- July 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM
- Dee Martin said...
Dear Phyllis, I too have begun to deal with the body not being able to do what the spirit wants. I hope I will handle the changes and frustrations as gracefully as you and remember how many are so much more unfortunate than I.
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タピオカドリンク~ Bubble tea
The oldest known bubble tea consisted of a mixture of hot Taiwanese black tea, small tapioca pearls, condensed milk, and syrup or honey. According to the contested originator from Taichung, the drink was not popular at first, but after being featured on a Japanese TV show, the concept started to be adopted and popularized by drink vendors throughout Asia. source
The first and only time I had bubble tea was in a Japanese crepes shop in Okinawa. I honestly have to admit that I wasn't too thrilled about this beverage at that time but due to its really easy recipe I will give this chewy fellows one more try. The great thing about bubble tea is that you can try out a large variety of tastes and come up with your very own composition. So here we go, here is what I did following this recipe.
For the bubble tea you need: tapioca pearls (you can find them in any Asian grocery store), black or green tea, sugar, ice and milk or water. Tapioka pearls come in different colors (such as white or brown/black) and sizes. I found the white ones to be more convenient if one wants to add a little food coloring to them.
To look at the recipe read on!
1. Bring the water in a large pot to a boil and add about 3-4 handfuls of tapioca pearls. It is very important for the pearls to have a lot of water so make sure to use a large pot and to cook small portions (pearls/water ratio should be 1:7). The amount of 3-4 handfuls of tapioca pearls will be enough for about 10 servings! It depends on their size but they will approximately need about 30-40 min. In all its forms, tapioca starch is opaque before cooking and becomes translucent when cooked. When finished their consistency should be squashy with a chewy core. If they cook for too long, their consistency will become more like the one of Mochi (Japanese rice cake). Drain the water and rinse them well unter cold water. This step will remove any excess starch and interrupt the cooking process.
2. Heat up water and prepare the syrup with a 1:1 water/sugar ratio. If you want your pearls to be colored you can add some food coloring to the syrup now. Let it cool down and then add the tapioca pearls to the syrup. Make sure all the pearls are covered! Let it rest for some time in the fridge. You can keep the pearls in the fridge for about three days but they taste the best the day they're made.
3. Make strong tea with little water (concentrate). You can use whatever tea you want although black tea and green tea is the most common choice. Let the strong tea completely cool down (that's why you should use only a little water). When the tea concentrate is cold add some milk or water, some honey, sugar or syrup as sweetener, crushed ice (if you have) and shake it well in a shaker! If you don't have a shaker, you can use an empty bottle or a tupperware for example. Pour the shaked tea in a glass and add the tapioca pearls. Add some more ice and enjoy!
Tapioca pearls don't really taste like something but they give this extra texture to the beverage and the cold tea is always nice. If you happen to come across an Asian grocery store grab a pack of tapioca pearls! They only cost about 2$ and are very easy to prepare. Next time I will let them with their original color. I think the white with the transparent looks very nice! Also I will try something more fruity :blinkheart:
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This is the most important news you'll read all day. Actress, Julia Roberts niece and accused boyfriend beater Emma Roberts didn't feel like standing in a ridiculously long line to get one of those mythical "cronuts" at Manhattan's Dominique Ansel Bakery, so she (allegedly) dragged her publicist to the door and tried the "don't you know who I am" trick.
Anyone who went to kindergarten knows that no one gets to bully his or her way to the front of any line, especially when a doorman waits at the end. Before you ask: yes, the bakery has a doorman—and yes, he told an "embarrassed" Roberts to go to the back of the queue, where she smiled for paparazzi and signed autographs before leaving due to boredom, or something like that.
Later she appeared on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, where she claimed that she hadn't even realized there was a line. The host took a break from laughing at his own jokes to graciously grant her access to the deep-fried goodness she not-so-desperately wanted.
Note to publicists: this is why they hate us.
This cronut craze is WAY out of hand. We've tried one; it's a crème donut made with "laminated croissant dough" and topped with a little frosting—no more, no less. Folks outside of the New York metropolitan area don't care, because they have better things to eat with their time. Like Twinkies.
On a side note, The Cronut Project is a really cool effort created by ad agency interns who partnered with the bakery to offer a limited edition passion fruit pastry to those who donate the most money to the Food Bank of New York. See, that's what we call good PR.


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|Magical Drop of Mana
|Square Enix, Golgoth Studio
|Square Enix
|Nintendo 3DS, PlayStation Vita, iOS, Android
|Release Date(s)
|November 13rd, 2015 (Worldwide)
|Adventure, Adventure X, Exploration, Missions (iOS and Android Only), Drop Match, Tournament
|Action RPG, Puzzle
|World of Mana, Magical Drop
The gameplay of the game is like Rise of Mana, althrough it broughts some elements from the Magical Drop series as well, when the player triggers a Drop Attack while on gameplay, it makes the game change the action RPG style to the puzzle game style, however, it requires to full the Tarot Bar with Card Shards, which are won after the enemies are defeated in one battle. Depending on the type of battle, the player must clear all the ball drops when facing an enemy, or must endurace a battle against the opponent when facing the boss. When the player wins the drop match, the enemy is defeated or the boss is lowered at half health points, but if it loses, the tarot character is defeated and the player is only able to use the mana character to defeat the enemy or boss on action roleplay mode, the tarot character is fully recovered after the battle is won. The experience points which are won after winning a battle have a potential to upgrade a character to adquire different abilities that can power it, such as perfecting one weapon, raise the speed or upgrading magic spells.
The Adventure Mode focus the player on a story starring one mana character and tarot character, which can be picked from the beginning and be named at own like. After the player picks the mana character and named it, next step will be picking a tarot card, which will represent the tarot character that the mana character that was chosen will meet further in the story. Adventure X makes both mana and tarot characters be usable in action rpg and puzzle modes.
The Exploration Mode uses Action RPG mode only and, unlike Adventure Mode in which it only follows a line quest, allows the player to explore the world areas freely and pick quests to full exp points, somewhat a sandbox like feature. Mana characters and tarot characters can be freely picked.
The Missions Mode, exclusive on iOS and Android, makes the player play as different mana and tarot characters through various levels, winning rewards, such as items, equipment or coins, so these can be used to be aided on Adventure Mode. If the player runs out of lifes, must wait to the next day to refull them.
The Drop Match Mode uses Puzzle mode only, allows to play Magical Drop matches against the computer or with online players, mana and tarot characters can be picked freely.
The Tournament Mode makes the player enter in an endless single puzzle mode, until the character is defeated. Both mana and tarot characters can be picked.
The Mana Characters are chosen by the player at the start of Adventure Mode and can be named at any like. While the Tarot Characters are chosen from cards by the player, and can be named too at any like.
|Canon Name
Species (Mana - Tarot Character)
|Canon Tarot Partner
|Human - Human
Justice (Amy Hale)
|Unknown - Human
|Sprite - Human
|Human - Human
|Human - Flame Baby
|Niccolo - Human
|Human - Human
|Half-Human and Elf - Human and Pig
|Werebeast - Human
|Lorimarian Human - Angel
|Tree Folk - Angel
|Dwarf - Human


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The only thing semipositive I can say is the cast has my pity. This was predictable and irrational from the get go and the writers were simply putting stuff out their asses. Aaron presented one of the only surprises... not by shooting himself but by the fact that he would be carrying a Steel flask instead of silver or pewter one. And even at that, it wouldn't have stopped that bullet... or would have sent metal shards into his chest.
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April 7th, 2006, 03:10 PM #4
You can all talk from anywhere?
Can you talk from your own butt? Just wondering because if you think you'll get anywhere by spamming you must have your head up your ass.================================================================
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|March 19, 2015, 06:09 PM
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Remington 700 trigger
A few years ago, I saw a program on TV about problems Remington has had or may not have had with the trigger design on 700 series rifles. The design was faulty which caused rifles to discharge prematurely. The documentary was not able to say whether this is true. Does anyone have any information on this?
|March 19, 2015, 07:16 PM
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Check previous threads....probably a 1000 comments.....personally I have had 700's for 50 years....never experienced problems related to the documentary you are referencing.
|March 19, 2015, 07:28 PM
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I've had the misfire, and unexpected firing from the 700, but I totally blame myself for over lubing,(What?) yep overlubricating my 700 caused way too much crap build up in my trigger which in time causes trouble.
Now after doing a "Remington Crisp" to my 700, and lubing ONLY with lighter fluid I have one of the very sweetist old style remington triggers I have used.
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|March 19, 2015, 07:43 PM
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My Remington 700 has no problem.
It is crisp and light.
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|March 19, 2015, 11:25 PM
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I had mine misfire, but it was probably my fault for over adjusting. There is a reason the adjustment screws are covered with epoxy. I replaced the trigger with a Timney. No problem.
|March 20, 2015, 04:27 AM
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I had my Model 700 fire while unloading, maybe 25 years ago. For the life of me, I can't remember the exact sequence of how it happened. Several times through the years, I have tried to replicate the firing, but have never been able to. In that time frame, I heard of owner owners having issues with the Model 700.
Fortunately, I have always practiced loading/unloading (as well as where the barrel points) in a safe manner, meaning towards the ground or at an intended target.
|March 20, 2015, 05:10 AM
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i have owned and used rem 700,s for over 50 years and have adjusted triggers on many, to adjust the trigger there are certain steps that must be taken in order to make it light and safe. i also think alot of the AD,s are caused by misadjusted triggers and people who push the safety off with their finger already on the trigger, but who claim the triggger mulfuctioned so they can sue for damages or to get out of personal blame for injuries. any trigger can fail with out proper adjustment and maintance. i bought a rem 700 that would not stay cocked when working the bolt, the fix was to soak the trigger in gun scrubber for a day and you would not believe the brown gunk that came out of it. the owner said he just sprayed WD-40 into it every fall before hunting season. eastbank.
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I've owned & shot many 700s over the past 50 years. Re-working triggers is simple enough, and very safe when done correctly.
A few years ago, I sent one out to a well-reputed 'smith in Glendora, Ca., for a set-back and , as I no longer have the machinery. While there, he tuned the trigger to an excellent feeling and consistent 2.5 lb. pull. After the season, I let the rifle wait out the winter in the safe. Three months later, it was time to put her back to work... When the bolt was closed and safety "on", it consistently discharged upon release of the safety. Sparkling clean, dry or lubed. Every time. The 'smith had sealed the adjustment screws with such a glob of JB Weld that I had to replace the assembly.
NOT a problem with Remington's trigger, just an example of improper handling. I am fond of the old Remington triggers, and trust them as much as any others.
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Never had an issue with my 700 triggers, I take them out and put a Timney in because the Remington sucks.
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|March 20, 2015, 10:40 AM
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|March 20, 2015, 01:41 PM
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on a hunting rifle i never understood the need for a super light trigger, i like and use 4.5lbs trigger pulls on my walking/carrying hunting rifles and never felt handicapped or lost a shot at a animal because it was to heavy. if you want to see the rifles that have most AD,S, check out the older marlin-winchester lever actions, they are the worst ever. i don,t know any one shot by a AD with a remington or any other bolt action rifle in over 61 years of hunting, but i have known four men personly who were shot with AD,S from lever action rifles. it all goes back to safety training, never point your firearm at any thing you don,t want to shoot, loading /unloading or while hunting. i will not go into the field with any one who disobeys that rule. eastbank.
|March 20, 2015, 04:33 PM
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Long post, but please read.
The problem is related to the design. The engineer who designed the trigger in 1946 (Mike Walker) incorporated an experimental design that used a connector between the trigger and sear to give a smoother trigger pull.
Shortly after the guns went into production he discovered that the connector can move around inside the trigger group enough to disengage the sear with no trigger pull. When this happens the guns safety is the only thing holding back the firing pin. When the safety is moved to the fire position, the gun fires.
Walker advised Remington management of a "dangerous situation" with the trigger and designed a new trigger without the connector in 1946. Remington management declined to incorporate his design since they thought the possibility of it actually happening was so rare.
And it is fairly rare, but it does happen far more often than many want to accept. There were 134 rifles returned to Remington in 1980 alone with owners complaining their rifles had done this. Somehow the documentation for all other years has disappeared.
ANY trigger, if it is adjusted improperly could release and fire the gun unintentionally. And Remington continually claims this is the problem, or that folks are touching the trigger. And in some cases it is, but Remington can't explain why it happens with Remington bolt rifles at a rate far more often than other brands. And there are hundreds of well documented cases where rifles have done this that were fresh from the factory and had never been modified. Including one sent to Consumer Reports for a write-up in 1968.
The problem is well documented and is the connector. Even with a 10-12 lb trigger pull, if the connector disengages the sear the gun will fire when the safety is moved.
I have a 700 manufactured in 1974, bought new in 1975. The rifle is as clean and well maintained as a 40 year old rifle can be. The trigger has never been modified. I forget the exact year, but at some point in the mid 1990's mine did this while unloaded and on an empty chamber. It only did it a few times within a brief 30 minute or so time period. I never had an issue with it until about a month ago when it again repeated the same. After a few minutes the problem went away.
That is a handful of incidents on only 2 days over a 40 year period. That tells a lot about how rare it is and why many don't believe the problem is real. The truth is that at least 99% of the rifles ever made will NEVER do this, but at the same time 100% of the rifles with the Walker trigger could do it at any time.
The trigger is on every Remington bolt rifle made between 1946 and October 2006 except the 788 when they finally changed to a trigger with no connector. Rifles made 2006-2012 are being recalled for a different trigger issue.
As part of a recent lawsuit Remington has agreed to change triggers out on all of the 1946-2006 guns but the details have not been worked out. The terms of the settlement have to be approved by a Judge and I'd look for an official announcement within a few months.
|March 20, 2015, 05:13 PM
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The connector feature is a Remington patent. It doesn't make the trigger pull smooth, but it makes it break crisp. It is what makes a Remington rifle so good right out of box.
The issue is that the connector is not fully attached to the trigger, so it doesn't necessarily reset with the trigger. The safe blocks the primary sear, but it doesn't block the trigger, i. e. one can pull the trigger to move the connector forward when the safety is on. If the connector doesn't reset and sticks in the forward position, the gun will fire when the safety is off.
Mr. Walk noticed this weakness in the design, he suggested adding a part in the the safety linkage to block the trigger as well as the primary sear. His proposal was turned down as it was deemed unnecessary.
Why is the connector stuck in forward position? The return spring got turned out in pursuit of light trigger is one reason. The trigger mechanism being dirty is another possibility.
The design is sound and safe, but unfortunately it is not enough to out smart the ingenuity of users' foolishness. Well, I take it back. There is one thing that Remington has really blown it. Its safety should have 3 positions, instead of 2, so that one can unchamber while safety is on. It is rather silly that the safety must be off to open the bolt, given this very nature of their trigger.
As soon as I realized they might be doing away with the connector, I immediately bought one on eBay as a spare. I also modify the safety so that I can open the bolt with safety on. I keep my trigger free of any lube and the pull above 3lb. Never a hitch.
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"Mr. Walk noticed this weakness in the design, he suggested adding a part in the the safety linkage to block the trigger as well as the primary sear. His proposal was turned down as it was deemed unnecessary."
Mr. Walker was turned down on his redesign of the trigger because it would have cost Remington exactly five cents more to make the safer trigger. The bean counters strike again. IIRC, Remington has made over 7 million M700s in one form or another. The nickle extra would have cost Remington roughly $350,000. How much did it cost Remington in law suits and lawyers fees?
Looks like the bean counters were penny wise and pound foolish on that decision.
I have three Remington M700s and an M660. These are range guns only. I'm not taking a chance using rifles with suspect triggers on a hunt. One of these days I'll but a few Timneys and make then right but until then I'll just use them at the range where the muzzle is always pointed downrange, even when I remove a shell from the chamber. I did have issues way back with the M660 and Remington fixed the trigger. When I lived in Nevada many years back, my neighbor brought an M700 ADL over for me to look at. He said his brother in law shot both his wife's kneecaps out with the gun. This was about 1973 or 4 as I recall. His BIL claimed the gun went off when he opened the bolt to clear the chamber after a deer hunt. I manipulated that gun every which way I could thing of. Even upside down and never made it fire. (Empty chamber) After messing with it for about a week I took it back and told him I could find nothing wrong with it. He wasn't too happy and I think he was going to try and sue Remington for the loss of his wifes legs. The had to amputate above the knees. My thoughts? He took the safety off while having his finger on the trigger and the rifle was not pointed in a safe direction.
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|March 21, 2015, 07:44 AM
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i am not selling any of my rem 700,s, but i may sell all my old marlin and winchester lever actions that were causing AD,S for over 100 years, before adding safeties after selling millions of unsafe rifles. in 61 years of hunting and being around fireams i don,t know any one who had a AD with a rem 700, but i have known four peope who were shot with older lever actions, where are the people yelling about those rifles? a poster posted that his rifle had trigger problems one or two times and he could not get it to do it again. if the shooters who had AD,S were useing good firearm safety and handling habits all the ad s would have just blown a hole in the ground or sky.and i still think alot of the people having a AD with the rem 700,s and knowing about the suits against remington just claimed it was the trigger that caused the AD, who could prove them wrong? eastbank.
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I don't mean to steer the thread off track.
Some people complain rem 700 goes off when they turn off the safety. Old lever actions don't have safeties to turn off; they have half cock notches. It must be different sorts of accidental discharge.
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thats my point older lever actions don,t have safety,s, a rifle dropped on its hammer and the little notch breaks off and the rifle goes bang. i have seen AD,s with lever actions while unloading after deer drives in very cold and wet weather and loading in the same weather when the thumb slips off the hammer. AD,s have been happening with lever actions since the 1860 henry and winchester and marlin knew it,but did not put a safety on their rifles untill the 1980,s. i do like the safetys on md 70,s-mausers- springfields but i,m not afraid of rem bolt action safetys. i had a good friends dad killed when he did a dunb thing by setting his 1897 shotgun up aganist a tree while skinning a squirrel and it slipped off with the hammer hitting a rock breaking the little safety notch and hitting him in the neck at about six feet.eastbank.
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I see. Thanks for clarifying.
That's probably the same reason Remington decided not to redesign the trigger as suggested by Walker. There weren't much litigation with big reward back then. For better or worse, we live in different world now.
Any I like my Remington the way it has been. I understand how it works and keep it at tip top condition. And I don't do silly things with it. I believe I will be fine.
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|March 21, 2015, 05:15 PM
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No firearm is safe. I am not convinced that statistically speaking Reminton's trigger is any worse than anyone else's.
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I've had about 1/2 dozen 700s over the years and only had trigger trouble with one. As indicated by other posts, it was a situation where a prior owner did an adjustment and the sear would release when the bolt closed. The fix was simple and free, the end result was a 2- 3/4 lb. trigger that is crisp and safe.
That said, if I personally wanted a trigger pull much under 3 lb.s for my 700, I would ditch the factory assembly and replace it with one that is specifically designed to go light.
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The problem with the "ones that are intentionally designed to go light" is that they will at times fire without the trigger being pulled. The big difference from a legal standpoint between a factory an an aftermarket trigger is liability. The factory has almost no wiggle room when something bad happens. The aftermarket companies can blame the failure on improper installation. I put in a lot of match triggers. Most of them come with warnings that in a roundabout way tell you can not trust the trigger you must rely on rules of gun safety.
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Jewel's varmint class triggers have an advertised range of adjustment of 1.5b oz. to 3.5 lb.s. They come preset from the factory at 1lb., that's pretty darn light (by design) when compared to the typical 3.5 to 8 lb.factory triggers. I'm not persuaded that a $200.00 trigger preset at the factory to 1 lb. should be expected to discharge occasionally.
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Thursday night's debate among a small group of Republicans failed to attract the heavy-hitting politicians who are vying for the party's nomination for president next year, but that didn't stop Rep. Ron Paul for riling up the crowd on heroin, prostitution, and gay marriage.
Paul was asked whether his libertarian views on such controversial issues — mainly his belief that personal liberties should not be encroached upon by the federal government — could help him attract socially conservative voters. Paul said he believes that states should have the right to legalize gay marriage, marijuana, and prostitution if they choose to do so.
"If you do not protect liberty across the board, it's a First Amendment–type issue," he said. "We don't have a First Amendment so we can talk about the weather. We have the First Amendment so we can say very controversial things. So, for people to say that, 'Yes, we have our religious beliefs protected, but people who want to follow something else, or a controversial religion — you can't do this' ... if you have the inconsistency, then you're really not defending liberty. But there are strict rules on freedom of choice of this sort, because you can't hurt other people, you can't defame other people, but yes, you have a right to do things that are very controversial. If not, you're going to end up with a government that can tell you what to eat or drink or whatever."
Gay conservative group GOProud released a statement in support of Paul and the other politicians seeking the party's nomination.
"[We] thank Congressman Ron Paul for rightly making the case that marriage and family laws should be decided at the state level, not by the politicians in Washington," the organization said Friday.
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