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|Jun 26, 2007
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|Sep 25, 2004
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|Sep 25, 2003
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|Hamid Moheb, Michael L. Penley
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|Prodelin Corporation
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|Patent Citations (79), Non-Patent Citations (9), Referenced by (19), Classifications (8), Legal Events (3)
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The present application claims priority from U.S. Provisional Application Ser. No. 60/505,784 entitled FEED ASSEMBLY FOR MULTI-BEAM ANTENNA WITH NON-CIRCULAR REFLECTOR, AND SUCH AN ASSEMBLY THAT IS FIELD-SWITCHABLE BETWEEN LINEAR AND CIRCULAR POLARIZATION MODES, filed Sep. 25, 2003, the contents of which are incorporated herein by reference.
The invention relates to antennas for establishing communication links with satellites in geostationary orbit about the earth. The invention relates in particular to an antenna having a non-circular reflector and a feed assembly that is field-switchable between circularly polarized and linearly polarized operating modes, and to a multi-beam antenna having a non-circular reflector and a feed assembly that is capable of establishing communications with two or more satellite, where at least two of the satellites are closely spaced.
An increasing number of information services are now offered via satellite communication. Specifically, there are a wide variety of satellites positioned in geostationary orbit about the earth for providing various services to users on the ground. Such services include, for example, one-way (also referred to as receive-only) services such as television services, and two-way (also referred to as transmit and receive) services such as Internet communications. Unfortunately, many related services are offered on different satellites. For example, general satellite TV programming may be provided on one satellite, while Internet services are offered by another satellite, while still other satellites may offer high definition TV programming or foreign language TV programming. A user that subscribes to two or more of these services must have the ability to communicate with each of the satellites that provide the selected services. While this can be accomplished using different antennas corresponding to each satellite, this solution is neither practical nor acceptable for most customers. For this reason, there has been a significant uptake in the past few years in technology that allows for use of one antenna solution to communicate with multiple satellites. These antenna solutions are sometimes referred as multi-beam antennas.
There are various issues associated with the design of multi-beam antennas. One such issue is reflector profile. Specifically, multi-beam antennas include various feeds for communication with different satellites. For example, if an antenna is designed to communicate with three separate satellites, the antenna will include three separate feeds, one associated with each of the satellites. These feeds are all spaced in front of the reflector of the antenna. For proper communication, the feeds must be oriented properly with respect with the reflector in order to optimize reception and/or transmission of signals between the feed and its associated satellite, while avoiding crosstalk with other satellites. In a multi-beam solution, a reflector having an elliptical profile is generally preferred over a reflector having a circular profile. Specifically, a circular reflector generally does not narrow the beam of the signals received from the satellites. As such, all of the beams overlap significantly near the focal point of the reflector. A reflector having an elliptical profile, on the other hand, can be configured such that signals from different satellites can be generally focused at different points in front of the reflector. Specifically, it is necessary to make the beams transmitted by the satellites narrower in the azimuth plane (i.e., along the geostationary arc) to avoid interference or crosstalk from the closely adjacent satellites. Consequently, it is necessary to employ an antenna having a profile that is narrower in the vertical direction than in the horizontal direction; such as for example, an elliptical reflector, rectangular, or similar non-circular profile, (i.e., one having an aspect ratio of greater than one).
While use of a reflector having an elliptical profile allows multiple feeds to be placed in the same antenna solution, there are some drawbacks to use of these reflectors. Specifically, some satellites communicate via circularly polarized signals, as opposed to linear polarized signals. A circularly polarized signal consists of two vector components that are rotationally oriented ninety (90) degrees relative to each other. Further, the vector components have the same magnitude. To maintain the integrity of the signal, the vectors must remain substantially at the same magnitude, and they must remain substantially orthogonal to each other. To maintain the integrity of a circularly polarized signal, the vectors must remain substantially at the same magnitude, and they must remain substantially orthogonal to each other. Circular antenna reflectors maintain this electrical symmetry. Elliptical reflectors, on the other hand, do not maintain this symmetry because of their different dimensions in the horizontal and vertical directions. Thus, elliptical reflectors are typically not used with circular polarized communications, thereby making it difficult to provide a multi-beam solution where at least one of the satellites communicates using circularly polarized signals.
An additional issue with multi-beam solutions is satellite position spacing. As more satellites are introduced into orbit, the angular spacing between the satellites will decrease. In fact, currently there are several satellites that are positioned within a range of 5 degrees or less of arc with respect to each other. The proximity of these satellites to each other is somewhat problematic from the standpoint of using one antenna to establish individual communication links with both of these satellites.
Specifically, to communicate with multiple satellites, an antenna will typically include individual feeds dedicated to communicating with one of the satellites. Because of the closeness in angular proximity of some satellites, these wave-guides should be placed in close proximity to each other on the antenna to properly communicate with their respective satellites. The problem is that many conventional corrugated wave-guide designs cannot be used, because of the reduced spacing required between the phase centers of the wave-guides needed to receive from and transmit signals to the satellites is such that the conventional individual wave-guides would occupy overlapping space due to their size.
In view of these concerns, applicant has created various multi-beam antenna solutions for specific communication environments. For example, U.S. Pat. No. 6,480,165, entitled "Multi-beam Antenna For Establishing Individual Communication Links With Satellites Positioned In Close Angular Proximity To Each Other" discloses a multi-beam antenna solution for communicating with closely spaced satellites, where one feed is configured for two-way communication and the other feed is configured for one-way communication. In this antenna solution, one of the feeds is filled with a dielectric material. The use of the dielectric material allows the feed to made smaller in size, which in turn, allows the two feeds to be spaced in close proximity for communicating with the closely spaced satellites.
Recently, applicant also developed a feed solution that allows communication of circular polarized signals using a reflector having a non-circular profile, such as an elliptical profile. Specifically, U.S. patent application Ser. No. 10/370,166 filed Feb. 20, 2003 and entitled "Circularly Polarized Receive/Transmit Elliptic Feed Horn Assembly For Satellite Communications" discloses a feed solution formed of a plurality of corrugations. The corrugations progressively transition from substantially circular at an end closest to the receiver, to substantially non-circular at the opposite end of the corrugated section that faces the reflector. The non-circular corrugations are configured to correct the distortions of the circularly polarized signals induced by the non-circular reflector profile.
The above developments address many of the issues relating to multi-beam antenna solutions. Specifically, these systems provide solutions for communicating with closely spaced satellites and communication using circularly polarized signals in an antenna solution that uses a reflector having an elliptic profile. However, there are other issues yet to be addressed. Specifically, there is currently a need for an antenna solution that facilitates communication with at least two closely spaced satellites, where one of the feeds is capable of being configured to either communication circularly polarized or linearly polarized signals based on its configuration.
This antenna solution involves communication with at least one Fixed Satellite Services (FSS). FSS is a two-communication system (i.e., both transmit and receive) for internet, data, voice, etc. communications. FSS has somewhat more stringent standards than the more traditional direct Broadcast Satellite Services (BSS). Specifically, FSS has a more stringent rejection standard for closely spaced feeds. The communication beam must be narrower in the azimuth plane to avoid interference. FSS requires at least a 12 dB drop off. This minimum drop off ensures that there is not an excess level of crosstalk between adjacent feeds.
An added issue with multi-beam antenna solutions is the transition from use of satellites that communicate using linear polarization to satellites that communicate using circular polarized signals, or visa versa. Specifically, there are current antenna solutions that communicate with satellites that use linear polarization for communication. Plans are to replace some of these satellites with satellites that communicate using circularly polarized signals. As such, prior to replacement of the satellite, an antenna solution is needed that communicates using linearly polarized signals. However, after replacement, an antenna solution is needed that communicates using circularly polarized signals. One solution would to retrofit each antenna when the transition occurs. This, unfortunately, is not a viable solution.
On the one hand, satellite spacing requirements demand an elliptic aperture to eliminate cross talk and to provide higher level of signal isolation at two degree adjacency. On the other hand, both direct broadcast satellite (DBS) and future FSS satellites are typically designed to operate with circularly polarized signals, either Right Handed or Left Handed (RHCP/LHCP) ground antennas. Consequently, the reflector and feed horn assemblies should be versatile to accommodate the two degree satellite rejection and at the same time, operate in both linearly and/or circularly polarized environment. The combined solution of multi-satellite operation, cross talk, and circularly polarized requirements is an elliptical reflector profile that establishes satellite communications link and functions in both linearly and circularly polarized environments. However, the reflector ellipticity destroys the system symmetry as required for circularly polarization and creates a high level of axial ratio or cross-polarization.
In light of the above, a new antenna solution is needed that allows a multi-beam antenna to communicate with two closely spaced satellites, where both satellites use one-way communication, at least one of the satellites is an FSS satellite, and where one of the feeds is capable of being configured to communicate either linear polarized signals or circularly polarized signals.
The present invention provides various feed solutions to address issues associated with use of multi-beam antennas. Specifically, the present invention provides feed solutions that allow two feeds to be spaced in close proximity to each other for use in satellite communications with closely spaced antennas. Further, the present invention provides feed solutions that facilitate communication of circularly polarized signals using a reflector with an elliptical profile. In addition, feed solutions are provided that address the more stringent drop off parameter of FSS satellites and provide feeds that can be transitioned in the field from linear polarized communications to circularly polarized communications.
The feed solutions of the present invention, among other things, address the problem associated with the planned switch of the Ku-band (10.7–14.5 GHz) FSS satellite from linear to circular polarization. For example, the various solutions provided herein can be used to construct a multi-beam antenna solution that includes a reflector with an elliptical profile, at least two closely spaced feeds, where at least one feed is capable of communicating with an FSS satellite. Further, at least one of the feeds is capable of communicating using circularly polarized signals in conjunction with the elliptical reflector and can be transitioned in the field from a linear polarized configuration to a circularly polarized configuration.
For example, in one embodiment, the present invention provides a feed assembly for an antenna having a non-circular reflector, in which the feed assembly includes a feed horn capable of correcting the distortions of circularly polarized signals caused by the non-circular reflector profile, and wherein the feed horn is coupled with a polarizer that is field-switchable between linear and circular polarization modes of operation.
More particularly, the feed horn preferably comprises a circular waveguide section, a corrugated waveguide section having a wall encircling a longitudinal axis of the feed horn, and a conical waveguide section connected between the corrugated waveguide section and the circular waveguide section for transitioning between the circular and corrugated sections. The corrugated section has a series of spaced corrugations that progressively transition from substantially circular at the end of the corrugated section adjacent the conical section, to substantially non-circular at the opposite end of the corrugated section that faces the reflector. The non-circular corrugations are configured to correct the distortions of the circularly polarized signals generated by the non-circular reflector profile.
The polarizer is rotatably coupled to the end of the circular waveguide section opposite from the end coupled to the conical section. The polarizer is rotatable with respect to the feed horn between first and second angularly spaced orientations (e.g., displaced 45� apart), the polarizer being structured and arranged in the first orientation to be substantially transparent to a linearly polarized signal propagated through the assembly, and in the second orientation to impart right or left handedness to a circularly polarized signal propagated through the assembly. Accordingly, by simply rotating the polarizer, the feed assembly can be switched between linear and circular polarization modes.
In one embodiment, the polarizer comprises a circular cylindrical hollow tube having a dielectric card or vane mounted inside the tube so as to divide the interior space into two semi-cylindrical halves. When the vane is oriented vertically or horizontally, the polarizer is substantially transparent to linearly polarized signals propagated through it. When the polarizer is rotated 45 degrees relative to vertical in one direction, the polarizer is properly configured for propagating right-hand circularly polarized (RHCP) signals; when rotated 45 degrees in the opposite direction, the polarizer is configured for propagating left-hand circularly polarized (LHCP) signals.
The feed assembly can also include a separate second feed positioned closely adjacent the feed horn for establishing a communications link with a second satellite (e.g., a BSS satellite or another FSS satellite) spaced as close as 2 degrees from the first satellite (e.g., an FSS satellite). One or both of the first feed horn and the second feed horn can contain a dielectric having a dielectric constant greater than 1.0 so as to allow the dimensions of the feed(s) to be reduced to facilitate the required close proximity of the two feeds. Either or both of the feeds may be filled with a dielectric material to reduce their overall size as is described in U.S. Pat. No. 6,480,165 to thereby facilitate close spacing of the feeds.
The feed assembly includes a coupling arrangement that rotatably couples the polarizer and the circular waveguide section of the feed horn. In one embodiment of the invention, the circular waveguide section of the feed horn has a radially outwardly projecting flange formed proximate the end of the circular waveguide section that connects to the polarizer. The polarizer comprises a substantially circular cylindrical main body having a first end adjacent the flange and an opposite second end, the main body having a radially outwardly projecting first ring formed proximate the first end of the main body. The coupling arrangement includes a first coupler structured and arranged to engage the first ring on the polarizer and the flange on the circular waveguide section so as to substantially prevent relative axial movement therebetween while permitting the polarizer to rotate relative to the circular waveguide section.
In a particular embodiment, the first coupler comprises a band-shaped member that surrounds the flange and first ring and defines a circumferential groove in which the flange and first ring are retained. Advantageously, the first coupler is formed in two generally semicircular halves that are releasably joined together by fasteners. It is also advantageous for the polarizer to include a stop that interacts with a fixed structure of the feed assembly so as to limit rotation of the polarizer.
In one embodiment, the solution may include added feeds for communication with other satellites. For example, in one embodiment, the solution includes a feed spaced apart from the first two feeds for communication with a satellite space apart from the first two satellites by fourteen degrees. The solution can accommodate a wide range of satellite spacings in the range of one to twenty-two degrees.
Having thus described the invention in general terms, reference will now be made to the accompanying drawings, which are not necessarily drawn to scale, and wherein:
The present inventions now will be described more fully hereinafter with reference to the accompanying drawings, in which some, but not all embodiments of the invention are shown. Indeed, these inventions may be embodied in many different forms and should not be construed as limited to the embodiments set forth herein; rather, these embodiments are provided so that this disclosure will satisfy applicable legal requirements. Like numbers refer to like elements throughout.
A multi-beam antenna 20 in accordance with one embodiment of the invention is shown in
With reference to
The present invention provides a non-circular feed horn capable of propagating RHCP and/or LHCP signals, as well as linearly polarized (LP) signals. In a preferred embodiment, the feed horn is designed for the Ku-band in the 10.95 to 14.5 GHz range. More particularly, the received signals from the satellite covers the 10.95 to 12.75 GHz band. The feed horn transmits signals to the satellite. The transmitted signal is from the 13.75 to 14.5 GHz band. The feed horn is a corrugated, non-circular conical horn with embedded phase compensators that works with elliptical and/or non-circular reflector profiles. It is understood that the feed horn could instead be designed for the Ka-band, as well.
In the embodiments discussed herein, the reflector is illustrated as elliptical in shape and the feed horn has an elliptic shape for proper reflector illumination. It must be understood that present invention is not restricted to elliptical configurations, and may be used with any non-circular shaped reflector, i.e., rectangular, oval, and corresponding feed horn. Specifically, a corrugated feed horn having any aspect ratio can be designed such that the depths that the corrugations extend into the inner wall of the feed horn properly compensate a circularly polarized signal propagating therethrough for distortions caused by a non-circular reflector. The depths for each corrugation can be determined using the equations set forth in co-pending application Ser. No. 10/370,166, such that a plurality of corrugations can collectively compensate the signal.
The feed horn 30 is designed to properly illuminate the elliptic reflector aperture while operating in both LP as well as RHCP/LHCP polarizations. As illustrated in
The circular waveguide section 32 is a hollow waveguide having a circular cross-section to support the Ku receive band (10.95 to 12.75 GHz). It is also possible to configure the waveguide to support both the Ku receive band as well as the transmit band (13.75 to 14.5 GHz). The hollow waveguide's cross-section is chosen so as to insure the propagation of the two orthogonal dominant modes of the circularly polarized signal, and prevent the excitations of higher order modes. The circular waveguide section's length is optimized in conjunction with the conical section 34 and corrugated section 36 to ensure proper phase and amplitude at the back end of the feed horn.
With regard to the conical section 34, this section is a transitional region between the circular waveguide section 32 and the corrugated section 36. The throat region of the conical section is a smooth conical section to provide low return loss at both transmit and receive bands and a low level of higher-order modes. The conical section is about 0.3λ in length at the receive band for good electrical match and subsequently superior axial ratio performance. The conical section has a wide semiflare angle θ greater than 20�, to illuminate the reflector with a proper copolar radiation pattern. The throat region is instrumental to control the input impedance and the mode conversion from the circular waveguide section 32 to the elliptic corrugated section 36 opening for low voltage standing wave ratio (VSWR). The low VSWR is necessary to obtain low axial ratio and in turn, an excellent cross-polarization for both RHCP and LHCP operation.
Connected to the conical section 34 is a corrugated section 36 comprising a series of elliptical corrugations or grooves 38 in the shape of rings. The corrugations or propagation rings 38 are designed to compensate for unequal phase and amplitude distribution of a non-circular profile. Each propagating ring is optimized so as to provide proper phase and amplitude between the fudamental modes of a circularly polarized signal propagating therethrough, keeping the appropriate edge illumination. The corrugations or propagating rings are designed for operation over a desired range of frequencies for total symmetry of E- and H-fields with proper phase differential. The propagating ring size is gradually increased toward the feed horn aperture to control the reflector edge illumination.
More specifically, with reference to
In effect, the propagation rings transition a signal propagating in the direction A from an elliptical to a circular signal. Similarly, in the case of a transmit and receive application, for transmitted signals propagating opposite to the direction A, the propagation rings transition the signal electrically from a circular signal to an elliptical signal to match the ellipticity of the reflector of the antenna.
The feed horn has an axis of symmetry extending longitudinally through the circular waveguide section 32, conical waveguide section 34, and corrugated section 36. In the corrugated section, a series of corrugations 38 are spaced along the longitudinal axis of symmetry. The corrugations are a series of grooves in the inner wall of the corrugated section 36. The width of each groove in the longitudinal direction of the feed horn and the depth of each groove into the side wall in the radial direction are tailored as required to achieve the proper phase and amplitude compensation. Specifically, the depth of each corrugation compensates for the distortions caused by use of an elliptical reflector to reflect a circularly polarized signal. A circularly polarized signal propagating along the path A from the reflector to a receiver enters the first propagation ring in a distorted condition caused by the elliptical reflector. The depth of the first propagation ring compensates for the phase distortion. Each successive propagation ring further compensates the signal phase, such that when it enters the conical section 34 of the feed horn, it is substantially a circularly polarized signal having components of the same magnitude and orthogonality to each other, as is required of a circularly polarized signal.
The depth of the corrugations are selected between 0.25λ and 0.5λ and optimized to ensure proper local phase and amplitude. The depths are determined based on analysis of the modes of the circularly polarized signal. Specifically, the depth for each corrugation is determined such that the corrugation contributes to the overall correction of the circularly polarized signal, such that a distorted circularly polarized signal entering the feed horn from the reflector is corrected by each corrugation such that it enters the conical section as a circularly polarized signal and visa versa for signals traveling from the conical section to the reflector. The depth of each corrugation is selected by first determining the compensation contribution for every point on the corrugation as a function of the corrugations distance R from the field. The depth of the corrugation is determined to provide the compensation desired for the corrugation. This is described more fully in co-pending application Ser. No. 10/370,166, and hence will not be repeated herein.
The back end of the circular waveguide section 32 of the feed horn 30 includes an annular flange 39 that projects radially outwardly from the circular cylindrical section 32. The flange 39 facilitates coupling of the feed horn 30 to the polarizer 60. In particular, as noted, that coupling permits the polarizer to be rotated with respect to the feed horn, which is prevented from rotating by virtue of its connection to fixed structure of the feed assembly. The feed horn 30 includes mounting lugs L for affixing the feed horn to the fixed structure. The rear side of the flange 39 facing the polarizer 60 defines a circumferentially extending slot 41 for purposes explained below.
The polarizer 60 in the illustrated embodiment comprises a circular cylindrical tube inside of which a dielectric card or vane 61 is mounted along a diameter of the tube. When the vane 61 is oriented vertically or horizontally, the polarizer is configured for propagation of LP signals. Rotation of the polarizer 60 to position the vane at 45 degrees to the vertical configures the polarizer for propagation of RHCP or LHCP signals. The front end of the polarizer nearest the feed horn flange 39 includes a radially outwardly projecting ring or flange 62; the opposite end of the polarizer similarly includes a ring or flange 63. A forwardly projecting protrusion or stop 64 is formed on the forward side of the front flange 62 facing the feed horn flange 39. When the polarizer is coupled with the feed horn, the stop 64 fits into the slot 41 formed in the feed horn flange 39. Accordingly, the polarizer 60 can be rotated about its axis over the defined range of the slot 41 only. The slot 41 is configured so that when the polarizer is rotated as far as it will go in one direction, the vane 61 is oriented vertically, and when the polarizer is rotated as far as it will go in the other direction, the vane is oriented at 45 degrees to the vertical. It will be recognized that a similar result could be obtained by having a slot in the polarizer flange 62 and a stop on the feed horn flange 39, or by other types of rotation-limiting arrangements.
The polarizer 60 is coupled to the feed horn 30 by a coupling comprising two semi-circular clamp halves 65 a and 65 b that are fastened together by suitable fasteners so as to form a circular clamp. The clamp halves each defines a circumferential channel or groove 66 on its radially inward side configured to receive the feed horn flange 39 and the polarizer flange 62 in coaxial adjacent relation with each other. The clamp halves are fixed in relation to the feed horn 30 by virtue of projections 67 on the feed horn that engage recesses 68 in the clamp halves, thus preventing the clamp halves from rotating relative to the feed horn. There is sufficient axial and radial clearance between the polarizer flange 62 and the adjacent surfaces of the clamp halves 65 a,b and feed horn flange 39 to allow the polarizer to be rotated about its axis relative to the feed horn, but the clearance is small enough to maintain the polarizer properly coupled in coaxial relation with the feed horn.
The feed assembly also includes a waveguide transition 70 used for coupling the polarizer 60 to the LNB 80. The waveguide transition 70 comprises a circular cylindrical tubular member having a radially outwardly projecting flange 72 on a front end thereof facing the polarizer. The feed assembly includes clamp halves 69 a and 69 b, configured similarly to the previously described clamp halves 65 a,b, for coupling together the polarizer and waveguide transition by capturing their respective flanges 63 and 72. The flange 72 includes a forwardly extending projection 74 that engages in recesses defined in the clamp halves 69 a,b to prevent the clamp halves from rotating relative to the waveguide transition; since the waveguide transition is connected to the fixed LNB 80, the clamp halves thus are prevented from rotating along with the polarizer 60 when the polarizer is rotated to switch between LP and CP configurations. The waveguide transition includes a mounting flange 76 at its rear end, the flange having through-holes for receiving fasteners, to facilitate attachment of the waveguide transition to the LNB 80.
As noted, the polarizer 60 can be rotated relative to the feed horn 30 to switch between LP and CP modes of operation. Advantageously, the polarizer has a mark or projection 78 and the clamps 65, 69 have marks or projections 79, the marks being located such that when the mark 78 on the polarizer is circumferentially aligned with the mark 79 on the clamps, the polarizer is in one of the LP or CP configurations. Thus, the clamp 65 is circumferentially aligned properly relative to the feed horn 30 by the engagement of the feed horn projection 67 in the recesses 68 in the clamp 65, and the polarizer in turn is properly aligned relative to the clamp 65 via the alignment of the marks 78, 79. The marks 78, 79 act as visual references for the installer.
The illustrated embodiment discloses that the polarizer 60 is a circular section containing a vain or card. However, it must be understood that there are other configurations of the polarizer. For example, the section could have a rectangular shape. In this embodiment, irises would be used in the section to set the handedness.
As shown in
Referring again to
Provided below are some, but not all, of the advantages of the present invention:
Many modifications and other embodiments of the inventions set forth herein will come to mind to one skilled in the art to which these inventions pertain having the benefit of the teachings presented in the foregoing descriptions and the associated drawings. Therefore, it is to be understood that the inventions are not to be limited to the specific embodiments disclosed and that modifications and other embodiments are intended to be included within the scope of the appended claims. Although specific terms are employed herein, they are used in a generic and descriptive sense only and not for purposes of limitation.
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Stephania Bell (3:02 PM)
Good afternoon everyone! I am LOVING the World Cup...and not just b/c it's on our network, although I have to admit, the graphics in HD are AMAZING....But I love the international-ness of it all. Fans from around the world.Sort of like the chat fans...which is why we're here...so let's get right to your awesome questions...
Stephania Bell (3:02 PM)
Good afternoon everyone! I am LOVING the World Cup...and not just b/c it's on our network, although I have to admit, the graphics in HD are AMAZING....But I love the international-ness of it all. Fans from around the world.Sort of like the chat fans...which is why we're here...so let's get right to your awesome questions...
Pat [via mobile]
After carrying him all season I just dropped Brian Roberts because I needed the roster spot. When should I expect to have to make room to pick him back up?
Stephania Bell (3:05 PM)
Well, Pat...I wouldn't be rushing to make room anytime soon. And I have been a loyal Brian Roberts owner, but I think his case is risky at best right now. He has had so many setbacks b/c of his back, which is actually not atypical of how a difficult disc problem can behave, but is not very conducive to a productive baseball season.They are hoping he can return to baseball drills (now after his 2nd epidural) in a few days and hinting at returning around lateJune (don't believe that), maybe after All-Star Break. Bottom line: See if he can get to a rehab assignment and perform on consecutive days before you start THINKING about making room...
Jesse (@Work)
Should I be worried about Posada? His two grand slam weekend had me grinning from ear to ear but now he's hurting again. Will this injury linger on and on... and on?
Stephania Bell (3:07 PM)
Jesse: I don't think I'd be too concerned. He said the discomfort is in a different place - and it's not unreasonable to expect some of that after his first time back behind the plate. I think what it means is that they will be cautious in how they continue to return him, but I don't see them stopping him from the DH role - batting not the issue.
Paul (Madison)
Stephania... Thanks for your great work!Do you care to discuss Volquez? I've been stashing him all year, hoping for a nice second half from him. Will I be pleased or disappointed?
Stephania Bell (3:10 PM)
Paul: I do care to discuss him, thanks for asking. I think this is a really tough call. There have been a number of pitchers who have looked solid in their return from surgery but have not been able to perform at a consistent level once they're back in the rotation. And I'm sure you've heard me say that it often takes two years to return to form. His velocity so far has been impressive. It;s consistency and command that to me seems more of a concern when a guy comes back.I think if you have the space to take a gamble, why not? But I wouldn't move anyone solid to make room for him.
Dave (Chicago)
Good afternoon Ms Bell, please tell me Phillips is playing today
Stephania Bell (3:11 PM)
Dave: Do not know official lineup card yet, but I'd be a little concerned, even if he does play. Although they're saying they don't expect a DL stint, and just a couple of days, we also know this has been bugging him for over a week. I'd be concerned about his first outing, even if it happens today.
David (Hercules, CA)
Hi Stephania, have there been any lingering effects on Andre Ethier from his knuckle injury? He's a completely different player since he returned, I wonder if that injury should have been allowed to heal?
Stephania Bell (3:14 PM)
David: Fair question - but I don't think so. Although he's not showing the same power right now, he has hit a bunch of doubles of late and is helping his team...not his FANTASY team per se, but I think the threat of him in the lineup is valuable...and as long as it doesn't pose a setback in his healing, then why not? In fact, I think what we'll see at the end is as the finger fully heals his typical Ethier performance will return...and that will be sooner than it would have been if he had been completely sidelined for 6 weeks without being able to swing the bat, hit, etc...
Jake (VA Beach)
So what's the deal with Beltran. He's hitting and playing (and hitting quite well), but then it's said he still won't be ready for another 3-4 weeks. What's the real story there?
Stephania Bell (3:17 PM)
Jake: Continued patience my friend. This is a knee that needs to be handled delicately. The batting has been quite good from the outset, but it's the center field work that they need to inch him back slowly b/c of the potential pounding. He has been doing some and they are continuing to bump it up slowly. I still think he'll end up on a true rehab assignment relatively soon and that the return will be post-All Star Break. The last thing they want to do is activate him, make it worse and send him out again. Would be bad for the player, potentially worse for the team perception-wise.
Frank (NYC)
I'm thinking about offering a package of either Bengie Molina or Miguel Olivo AND Alfonso Soriano for Nelson Cruz. I will be replacing the lost catcher with Miguel Montero. But I need you expert opinion on Cruz. How does project given his injury problems? Would you make this deal if you were me??
Stephania Bell (3:22 PM)
Hi Frank: I'm appreciating that you're asking my opinion, this is a bit of a tough call. I love Montero so no worries there. But Cruz is problematic. Both hamstrings injured and a setback recently enough that required a cortisone shot. One thing you see sometimes with players who have recurrent strains like this is some hesitation to go full speed when they return. They need to re-establish confidence in their legs before they really can go all out. No amount of rehab time convinces them mentally that they can handle it the way that playing on their team, in the majors, consistently, does. They really need a few weeks back without re-injury before that confidence returns.Ironically, it was Soriano once upon a time who after multiple muscle strains talked about being hesitant to run full speed for just this reason. I don't like making deals for players who are still on the DL with this type of injury (i.e. could easily flare up vs fracture healing for instance). I'd be afraid to pull the trigger.
CB (San Diego)
LOVED your Zimmermann piece. In general, what do you think of guys coming back from TJ nowadays? Guys like Liriano and Marcum have a new lease on life coming back from it. Could this happen to Zimmermann as well?
Stephania Bell (3:26 PM)
CB: Thanks a bunch. It's a great question. Look, as medical professionals we never advocate for an injury, you never want to see anyone go down with this type of injury, especially kids (whole different topic), BUT...in this unnatural sport of pitching, this injury is going to happen. That said, since this surgery truly involves a graft (using a tendon to replace the damaged ligament), typically IN ADDITION TO repair of what's left of the old one, the repair is super strong. The long layoff often allows pitchers to address other issues and THAT is why they emerge better. Dr. Andrews himself often stresses this.
John (Denver)
Scary moment for Aybar and the Angels. How is he doing and what is his timetable?
Stephania Bell (3:29 PM)
John: As many injuries as I've witnessed in my time, one of the ones that often makes me cringe is watching the knee go the opposite direction of how it's supposed to. But the good news is that sometimes hyperextension injuries can look bad and just result in soreness, avoiding major damage. That appears to be the case so far with Aybar. A more serious injury could be ACL or PCL damage along with other structures on the back side of the knee. It was not a dirty slide, just an unfortunate encounter. His timetable is day-to-day and will depend on how long any swelling takes to go away and how much stiffness he has. I'd expect 3-5 days min.
Alex (NJ)
Hi Stephania! Not necessarily fantasy related, but please tell me Bynum will play tonight and be effective enough to help the Lakers to victory. Thank you!
Stephania Bell (3:30 PM)
Alex: Since the series does continue tonight, we'll allow it. I do believe he'll play and play hard - since this is do or die time.
Pedro (Edison, NJ)
Is it safe to drop Morales for the rest of the year at this point?
Stephania Bell (3:30 PM)
Pedro: YES! He's done for the year, poor guy.
Rhyno (NH)
Hey Star......daily J-Roll update....looking forward to him coming back next week (maybe?)....
Stephania Bell (3:33 PM)
Rhyno: Like the "maybe" with the question mark. That's exactly the case. Rehab assignment now, they have to see how he responds, and then bring him back. The obvious concern is that this is exactly what they did last time and he still had a setback. Kind of like the Cruz answer where you expect him to be perhaps a bit more tentative when he comes back, involuntarily, until he crosses the threshold of confidence in his leg. So yes, if all continues well, I think he's back in the next 10 days or so...but REALLY back? Maybe post-All Star break.
Johnson (MO)
I know you probably have 1000 questions in regard to Jacoby Ellsbury. If you had the chance to buy him on the low, would you? All I'm looking for is for him to be the guy we thought we were drafting for the 2nd half.
Stephania Bell (3:36 PM)
Johnson: Funny - a few questions but I think a lot of people have lost confidence. What's interesting about his injury is that when he was evaluated in L.A., they found a fracture in a slightly different area, perhaps as a result of contact AFTER he tried to return last time. All of which makes me think that in addition to him being pain-free, the team will make sure he's removed from any potential setbacks until the bone has had ample time to heal (which in ribs is 4-6 weeks). So I would say we're another month away. IF he fully heals, I think he may be a bit behind when he returns, but my guess is he heats up in August - so you get two good months.
Ben D (NYC)
How much longer is A-Rod out for?
Stephania Bell (3:38 PM)
Ben: Indications were for a few days (as in through today), but I do worry about this becoming something that lingers. They're calling it hip flexor tendinitis/strain. He is a guy who is very strong through the hip, probably tight as well. If it nags at him, it could impact his performance, both in power at the plate as well as running.
Ian (Saskatoon, SK)
Quick Brett Anderson question Stephania, what's the likelyhood he ends up being shut down this year? Is the arm trouble the kind that will result in Tommy John?
Stephania Bell (3:42 PM)
Ian: I don't see that being a natural consequence, at least not yet. You may remember that I expressed some surprise that he came back after only one 3-inning outing. Perhaps too much work too soon which is why it flared up again(?) So now, I think they will extend his rehab further before he returns this time. To your point re: TJ, a flexor tendon strain does not necessarily mean a TJ injury is imminent. BUT they are both structures on the inner side of the elbow, so if one is breaking down, it would suggest that serious strain is being put on the other. There have been cases of pitchers who suffered ttorn flexor tendons and then went on to have a TJ injury, but certainly does not happen all the time. Best prognosis for him is getting fully better from this.
Joe (Porltand, OR)
Hey Stephania, What are your thoughts on A-Ram? Was his early season slump due to this injury and what do you expect when he returns? Thanks!
Stephania Bell (3:44 PM)
Joe: I absolutely think the thumb was the reason for the poor performance early. It was bothering him for a long time before he went on the DL. I think he was trying to find ways to play through it, and while admirable it was not effective clearly. It's always concerning with these hand injuries as to how a player comes back related to power at the plate. When they haven't been hitting normally for a period of time, it seems to take a while for them to get their rhythm back. So I would not be surprised if he comes back somewhat slowly.
MK (Mountain View, CA)
Stephania, how bout our weekly Beckett update/progress report?
Stephania Bell (3:47 PM)
MK: Have to answer a question for someone from my home town!! Beckett is doing flat ground throwing from progressive distances and so far has been tolerating it well. This is the normal progression before return to the mound, then there's the bullpens, then some rehab innings. So while he's making progress, I'm imagining a few more weeks before he's ready.
Jason (LA, CA)
Any chance Jorge De La Rosa returns before the end of the month?
Stephania Bell (3:49 PM)
Jason: Lots of eager de la Rosa fans out there. And he's giving reason for encouragement with some solid bullpens! But breaking balls will stress the finger more and he needs to mix in all of his pitches. He will also need some game innings, so I think it still looks like July for him.
jesse (cali)
Will Troy Tulowitski be back soon for the rockies?
Stephania Bell (3:51 PM)
Jesse: Sounds like he's expected back tonight. This is a guy who has dealt with a number of soft tissue injuries - the latest being this groin strain - so want to see him back and performing well before I'd say with confidence that he's out of the woods, but I guess we'll get a chance sooner rather than later to start to watch.
jr (minnesota)
is j.j hardy going to have this wrist injury get better soon or is it going to linger seems he is soft injury wise from a slide into 3rd
Stephania Bell (4:04 PM)
Wow -lost battery power right before the end of the chat - Sorry!!OK - the answer I had already typed was that this injury was already lingering, but has seemed to improve with a recent cortisone shot. Now he has not begun swinging a bat which will be the true test as it will put torque through the wrist, and then we'll have a better idea as to what's coming.
Adam (Horsham, PA)
Hey Stephania. B PHILLIPS is in the lineup tonight batting 2nd
Stephania Bell (4:05 PM)
Thanks Adam - still say I want to observe how he looks before I'm confident he's past it.
Stephania Bell (4:06 PM)
Sorry about the ending there folks...but thanks SO much for coming. Great questions as always and more than I had time to get to, but plenty to keep me thinking. Look for some additional blog updates this week to try to get to some of those questions. Stay healthy!
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SWFG Post at MIG Saturday Afternoon
[SWFloridaGuy] I'm not a big fan of the hype and I've been pretty outspoken about that. However, I do realize that people want to hear what TerryK has to say and I'd have to agree with others who have said "where do you draw the line?" I would say that these rumors all share the same validity and we're all adult enough to understand this. I will never understand calling dates and rates and I do have to question the motivation of certain posters when I see this day after day, year after year. It's pointless to give dates and rates but it's also futile to require them of TerryK or others. No one knows (this much is obvious), and no amount of positivism is going to provide you with the answers you seek.
[SWFloridaGuy] We can't say with any certainty whatsover that this can't go down soon, just like we can't say that it must. I also don't think it's fair to attack Recaps for asking posting their survey and I believe it has actually produced some constructive dialogue. I know from being affiliated with sites myself the amount of flack that they catch and countless negative emails that they have to sift through, no matter what the post is or who the poster is. I do believe that we should be able to challenge the information provided though and that's all I've ever asked for. I don't believe it's right to ban members for sharing opposing views when it's done in a respectful manner. Recaps can't please everyone and when there is so much on the line I understand that emotions tend to get involved. Hopefully, one day soon this crazy ride will come to an end and we can all cross the finish line together hand in hand.
1/5/2013 05:53:11 am
1/5/2013 05:54:52 am
You just said it perfectly thanks SWFG.
1/5/2013 05:58:18 am
Great post as usual SWFlorida and Recaps you guys are the best dinar site on the web. Go RV!!
1/5/2013 06:02:06 am
I agree just keep doing what you're doing Recaps and I will continue to look forward to hearing all the rumors (Terry K included) and SWFGs in depth analysis. Thanks Recaps.
1/5/2013 06:05:16 am
what a good post everyone wont this over tk is trying to help if you don't wont to read his post then go to other post god bless
1/5/2013 06:07:48 am
Perfectly said...I wholeheartly agree!
1/5/2013 06:10:13 am
You can't pay enough for this level if entertainment. when this thang pops who am I gonna rofl at?
1/5/2013 06:13:41 am
I agree it's like a soap opera. Gotta love the drama. Good post SWF and as the dinar world turns... I will stay glued to the screen. Thanks Recaps this has been a fun day.
1/5/2013 06:17:29 am
I appreciate the fact that recaps wanted to ask opinion. That shows concern and good manors. As for myself, I believe that all persons who believe they have a news worthy statement to make should be allowed. It is up to me to deside if I think it holds anything of value. Some folks want to be given hope...some want "just the facts', nothing is going to make everybody happy. I think an important thing to remember is...no one owes us anything....we took the risk..we wait...we will benefit eventually...
1/5/2013 06:21:04 am
Exactly great post. I actually think this brought the community closer together and it was something that needed to be discussed. Thanks for your opinion SWF and thanks Recaps for allowing this discussion. We never used to be able to have talks like this until you guys came around.
Cory Clay
1/5/2013 06:18:44 am
Well said SWFG...we are all adults with the power to choose and to filter any posted information. I am grateful for Info Sharers like yourself and thankful for sites like Recaps and Dinar Detectives. There are some folks who would complain no matter what. Recaps has always shared information responsibly. If you don't like a certain provider, don't read or listen to that provider. Ultimately, I think there are some people who are looking for someone to blame for lives they don't like. This is just one great possibility...there are others if we stay positive and look for them.
1/5/2013 06:29:40 am
Well said as usual swfg. I believe recaps should post all sites without censorship. I also believe all of these sites should allow constructive dialogue without being banned for having a different opinion. Recaps is a site that is just what it says, a recap of all sites I believe TK has the right to post the same as BGG has the right to conduct conference calls WITHOUT CENSORSHIP
1/5/2013 06:33:19 am
I think that this is RECAPS place so they can say and do whatever they want. They are doing us a favor by posting what they do. If you don't like it, there are other places to go. The Recaps Team certainly doesn't need to be bothered by ungrateful, petty complaints and bickering. We're all adults so start acting like one..
1/5/2013 06:35:55 am
SWFG your in depth wisdom always amazes me.
1/5/2013 06:43:34 am
I understand that this is all opinions on something that is very hard to predict . I read Dinar recaps with an open mind . I never take things to the neck from here . I am an adult . However , when I am holding Dinar and Dong that I purchased on E BAY and TK makes statements about my currency to the point of basically saying I will not be able to cash it in because it was purchased on E BAY , stated as if it were a fact , well then , this naturally takes me and many others to another level . If you can some how go back and read what TK said , since that conversation was removed , you would understand how it is scarey to read if you are poor man like me . I appreciate the "intel" always , whether it pans out or not . I know you men and woman are all good people , no harm done , it just scared many people last night who are in this investment with the hopes of making a pretty penny . It also does not help that you cannot comment on anything that TK posts. "Playing with my money is like playing with my emotions". I enjoy TK , but he needs this feedback to improve his game IMHO . God Bless and GO RV
1/5/2013 08:28:54 am
I am surprise that grown folks talking like this. You are part of the people who believe the RV has been stopped because of what being said in chat-rooms. eBay or no eBay, receipts or no receipts; if it is so, Terryk cannot change the reality. I think a dose of growing up is in order.
1/5/2013 06:43:44 am
Hey there Hillbilly and Janice. Thanks for the responses. I can understand the arguments made by both schools of thought. We would all like to believe that this is an SRI (sustainable, socially conscious and ethical investment). Before investing in anything we need to consider financial return and the validity of the information provided and who is providing it. I can tell you that I am guilty myself of signing up for this without doing the proper research prior and I joined under many false pretenses.
1/5/2013 06:47:02 am
Good one SWFG! One thing I would love to see is more folks looking at the macro economic issues as it pertains to Iraq. Without an infrastructure that provides goods and services for citizens to purchase with thei new found wealth...there is NOT going to be an RV! Why would Iraq RV so people could make imported goods the only way to spend money. They need to keep the wealth in Iraq.
1/5/2013 07:03:26 am
"I'm hearing tomorrow" my families favorite catch phrase. SWFG I always look for your posts first along with Bond Lady. Voices of reason in a very frustrating investment. Recaps you guys are wonderful. The only site I need. (Three times a day)
1/5/2013 07:15:57 am
Hello Wally. I like where your head's at and these are the kind of intelligent discussions I enjoy. This is the kind of constructive dialogue that would help us all come to better conclusions. I tend to think that infrastructure is very important but that despite the fact that Iraq needs to overcome some challenges relating to infrastructure (which you were astutely picked up on), institutional reform, hydrocarbon sector, political stability and security, their economic reforms can procede regardless.
SWFG - You are right on about TK. But, if he is going to keep putting his stuff out, we should be able to comment on it. I think that in light of the stuff he continually throws out that a lot of folks need to get some balance that can best be provided through direct comments to his posts.
1/5/2013 08:17:52 am
Great response SWFG! Those are EXACTLY the things we need to be watching! None of us know, at what point Iraq/IMF/US Treasury will all agree that the economy will be in a position to capture the wealth (thus providing long-term stability) but they are clearly moving in the right direction, as you astutely pointed out.
I believe there has to be a line drawn in the sand when some one clams to have insight and continues to put out intel what people call hope this is an Investment win or loose this is still an investment you can pray if that makes you fell better you can name and claim at the end of the day its still an investment wisdom is the name of the game be wise and standing up for some one that you fell is looking out for your future is none sence in reality the only thing you know about them is some childhood name they created to be called on the this site for those that wait for information from people you will never meet shame on you do your own research God did call us to be leaders so pave your future
1/5/2013 07:28:34 am
just remember when you have a lot of money you will be smart, and you wont have time for any 1 that doesent have money, i for 1 will be glad to never see okie TK or bullcr"pdog75 names again and a few others too
1/5/2013 07:48:16 am
What people seen to forget, or just don't understand, is that Dinar Recaps is like a news station. They simply report what they find. I really appreciate being able to come here and find what others are sharing in the many chat rooms. I used to be in about 3 chat rooms most of the day and night but it got to be too much, so now I just come here to see what is being said in those chats and others. Thank you reporters at Recaps. I appreciate the time and effort you put into this site.
1/5/2013 07:58:15 am
I have been in this investment for over 3 years and blieve me I have seen a lot of Gurus come and go.....the ones that stick out in my mind are the ones who constantly give uplifting comments and hopium....no what.....I am a big boy and I can stay grounded in the midst of all the hoopla....trust me there are a couple of posters that I never read as they always throw a wet towel on things...it sure is nice to have someone say this is still a good investment and if thier prediction does not come to pass ..so what...we wait till the next one ...thats just the way this thing is.,..thanks RECAPS for doing a great job
leon DO YOU REALLY MEAN THIS?
gypsey moma
1/5/2013 10:13:30 am
HILLBILLY everyone you named in your post has said God this and God that. You must have missed those chats over the last 3 years. I was banned from OOM because of a remark I made about God. The only place that you can TRUELEY speak is here on RECAPS. So hats off to you guys here at Recaps.
1/5/2013 08:52:28 am
Together Hand in Hand .... AMEN!
1/5/2013 10:44:08 am
Please dont call the bank,. treat as rumor ok....
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