text:
I have a new series coming out this fall. Castle- the fall to Domum, is the first book and deals with a medieval world where dragons exist. As I worked out the plot of the story, it became evident that I needed to include dragons. That led to some serious thinking about them.
I wanted this fantasy story to fit within the realms of science, and I tried my best to make everything reasonable and at least scientifically plausible. That is when I had to look at dragons carefully. First, what are they? Reptile, mammal or some other kind of animal? Most drawings have them with a scale like skin, though others have put feathers on them. Another important feature is that they fly and this led me to a couple of conclusions. For a large creature to fly, it would have a fast metabolism. The wings have to cover a large surface area to lift the body and that also implies the bones would have to be strong, but light. The closest example I could think of were pterosaur. Those ancient (and fortunately extinct) reptiles had very light bodies attached to large wings. They also, like dragons, possessed a scaly skin.
So to me, dragons are more reptile than mammal, but had to be warm blooded to sustain the energy needed for flight. That energy meant dragons had to be meat eaters. Energy to carry a large body does not come eating grass. There is an obvious difference between reptiles and dragons; reptiles have only four limbs while dragons possess an additional pair of wings. It could be dragons were an evolutionary diversion from dinosaurs that accounted for the wings. Regardless, in my story, dragons were real creatures that for a brief time were able to cross over to Earth but were unable to survive.
The last feature of dragons that really concerned me was the fire from a dragon's mouth. I tried to come ways for this to happen but it just doesn't work. Rather annoying after I managed to figure out the rest of the dragon. Even if I assume it could hold in its lungs, or some special sac, an explosive gas (hydrogen or maybe methane) it would be one very short blast and then be over with until it could manufacture more. My solution was to have the dragons twin glands inside its mouth. Each gland would contain a chemical, and when mixed with the other, would create a corrosive mist that would make the victim feel as if its skin was on fire.
There you have it. My solution to having a plausible dragon. By the way, because they are predators, I also made the dragons smart. I also decided to have more than one type of dragon. Large, solitary ones and other smaller types, including some that could hunt in packs. I hope you like my creation of dragons.


text:
Phoenix, AZ (PressExposure) December 08, 2008 -- Over the road Trucker, Stephen Tucker, has created the Tuckerâs Truck Stop Blog Network: [http://tuckerstruckstop.com]. This is a six blog network that presents the Big Rig Trucker with information on: big rig trucks, big rig accident lawyer, big rig resorts, big rigs for sale, big rig chrome, ice road truckers, life as a trucker and more!
Mr. Tucker says, Tucker's Truck Stop offers more information than any other Trucker news service available. Each blog, designed for subject depth and ease of use, is being maintained with the trucking industry in mind.
Use the Tuckerâs Truck Stop Blog Network to find information on: big rig movie, custom big rigs, big rig parks, Wilco truck stop, Pilot truck stops, truck stops of America, TA truck stop, Flying J truck stop, Loves truck stop, Petro truck stop and wheels on a big rig.
Mr. Tucker says, Tucker's Truck Stop is chocked full of information about trucking. This is the information truckers require: the latest news in the trucking industry; information truckers should know about their trucks; great truck stops any trucker might want to visit on the road and more...
The [http://tuckerstruckstop.com] blog network is available to truckers utilizing the amazing wireless technology. If you're a trucker on the road, you can now Tucker's Truck Stop in the comfort and privacy of the cab of your rig. Tucker's Trucking Blog Network is the newest and most exciting development for over the road truckers who rely on the Internet to find news.
Tuckerâs Truck Stop Blog Network is any big rig driverâs one stop shop for trucking news, truck stop directory, truck stop info, big rig accident lawyers, truck stop location directory and more!
Neekam Company helps clients get the most out of their Internet presence. Neekam's proprietary Neekam Social Networking Search Engine Optimization System is a soup-to-nuts key to unlocking Internet riches. Go here to see: [http://neekam.com]

subset: commoncrawl


text:
Wanting slightly larger tires than stock but unable to fit them? Tuff Country EZ-Ride Suspension Jeep Wrangler TJ 2" lift kit is the solution. This simple economical lift kit uses front and rear coil spacers to lift your TJ without affecting ride quality. Also includes transfer case drop kit and bump stop spacers.
Note: To purchase Tuff Country 42901KN (w/SX8000 Shocks) or 42901H (w/SX6000 Shocks) please select in options above.
At Suspension Connection we are the #1 retailer of Tuff Country products in the world. Great prices, expert knowledge and exceptional customer service are why so many customers trust us with their Tuff Country purchases. Try us out!
|Tuff Country has been producing quality suspension products for over 25 years and backs all lift kits with a limited lifetime warranty.
|Download Instructions:
|42901 Instructions
|Recommended Tire Size:
|32" x 10.5"
|Amount of Lift:
|2" Front / 2" Rear
|Items Included:
|2) Front Coil Spring Spacers, 2) Rear Coil Spring Spacers, 1) Transfer Case Drop Kit, 1) Hardware Bag
|14.00 lbs.
|Part 42901 fits:


text:
- The work or an instance of becoming open or being built to start.
- An open room offering as a passage or space.
- A breach or aperture.
- A clearing when you look at the woods.
- the initial component or phase, at the time of a novel.
- initial overall performance: the orifice of a play.
- A formal commencement of operation: attended the orifice of this brand new museum.
- Games A specific design or series of starting moves in certain games, specifically chess.
- the opportunity affording the opportunity of success. See Synonyms at chance.
- An unfilled task or position; a vacancy.
- An act or example of creating or becoming open.
- something which is open.
- An act or instance of beginning.
- something which is a newbie.
- A vacant place, particularly in a selection.
- a chance, as in a competitive task.
- The act or procedure of opening; a beginning; commencement; first appearance.
- a location that will be open; a breach; an aperture; a gap; cleft, or gap.
- the opportunity.
- A vacant spot; a job which doesn't have a current occupant.
- A thinly wooded space, without undergrowth, amid a forest; a clearing.
- The work of making available, in every feeling of the verb open.
- a newbie; a short stage; commencement: because, the opening of a poem; additionally, dawn; first look.
- A breach or space; a hole or perforation; an aperture; especially, in structure, an unfilled part in a wall left for the purpose of admitting light, air, etc.
- An open or clear space affording method, entry, or passageway; an entrance.
- an obvious, unobstructed, or unoccupied room or spot; especially, in the usa, a tract over which discover a deficiency of woodland, woods being perhaps not completely desiring, but thinly spread within the surface as compared using their variety in an adjacent region.
- A widening out of a crevice, in consequence of a softening or decomposition for the adjacent stone, which could nonetheless remain partly or wholly with its initial position, or may have been entirely eliminated, in order to leave a vacant space of considerable width.
- An unoccupied location, position, plan of action, business, etc., which may be entered, or perhaps the chance of entering it; a vacancy; the opportunity; the possibility.
- In law, the statement for the situation produced by counsel on courtroom or jury initial to adducing proof: as, the opening for the plaintiff; the opening for defendant.
- In chess-playing, a mode of commencing a casino game; especially, other possible variety of consecutive techniques made at beginning that are regularly played and which were thoroughly examined by chess experts.
- an established sequence of techniques at the beginning of a game title of chess
- the first part of the introduction
- an entrance loaded with a hatch; specifically a passageway between-decks of a ship
- 1st of a few activities
- the first performance (as of a theatrical manufacturing)
- an aperture or opening that opens into a bodily cavity
- a ceremony associated the start of some enterprise
- possibility particularly for employment or marketing
- the act of opening some thing
- a possible alternate
- an open or vacant area in or between things
- a vacant or unobstructed area which man-made
- getting open or being made available
- provide participle of open.
- explaining the first amount of play, generally up to the fall of the first wicket; describing a batsman which opens up the innings or a bowler just who starts the attack
- very first or starting
Related Sources
Definition for "opening"
- The work or an instance of becoming open…
- View More
Sentence for "opening"
- Englert says the Palace's delay in…
- View More
Quotes for "opening"
- "I'm opening up my heart to…"
- View More
Synonym for "opening"
- beginning
- View More
Phrases for "opening"
- order opening
- View More
Rhyme for "opening"
- reopening
- View More
Hypernym for "opening"
- succession
- View More
Cross Reference for "opening"
- opportunity
- View More
Equivalent for "opening"
- introductory
- View More
Same Context for "opening"
- fissure
- View More
Verb Stem for "opening"
- open
- View More
Urban Dictionary for "opening"
- Bizarre slang for a girl's exclusive…
- View More


text:
Profile Created for Self
35 years/ 5Ft. 8In. (172.5 cm)
Post Graduate Diploma
Never Married
HR, Admin & Managers
Lives in New Zealand
Muslim, Sunni
Detailed profile
About MI-416863
I am a Simple Boy with a Good Personality. I Reside in a Beautiful City of New Zealand and My Caste is Sunni.
All Rights Reserved - MatrimonialsIndia.Com (2000)
Web Design by WeblinkIndia.NET


text:
Hey guys, I could really use a little help around here. I'm doing okay with my memes and reviews, but I always feel like it gets a little quiet through the week, and there is going to come the odd week when I don't have a review to publish. Basically, I'm asking for guest posters.
Primarily, I'd love to have an extra person on board to help me out with reviews. All you need is an open mind when it comes to fiction, i.e. you prefer adult fiction but you're cool with a little young adult from time to time, or whatever you're comfortable with, and a love of speculative fiction and/or history. I would prefer a reader who reads mostly adult, but it's not required. Equally, I would love somebody who reads a lot of fantasy, swords, sorcery, dragons, wizards, quests, that kinda thing, or somebody who adores historical fiction, but again, it's not required, so long as you fit in with my own reading preferences in some way and would be willing to post one book review every one or two weeks, I would love to have you around. It would really take a load off if I had somebody awesome around, trust me! If you're at all interested, or know somebody who might be, please please get in touch with any questions you might have. I will seriously love you for even offering.
Knowing that this may be a little bit of an unrealistic request at the moment, I'm also very open to guest posts. Reviews are great (speculative: fantasy, paranormal; chick lit; historical fiction; literary fiction; biography/memoir) if you're willing to send any over, as are discussion posts (I'm awful at thinking up topics but anything goes, really), and if you have another idea, we can talk about it.
I do have an idea to get a regular-ish feature going for recommendations. I would call it: x Recommends: .. and all you'd have to do would be to recommend a book, maybe I've read and reviewed it, maybe I haven't, it doesn't matter, but just post the blurb or even better tell us a little about the book (minus spoilers) and why you recommend it. You can do one post, or several that I can post over a few weeks. I'm pretty open but I'd love some recommendations!
And finally, I'm also looking for guest posters for Discovering Steampunk. I need somebody who knows a fair bit about steampunk who could write me a couple of posts about steampunk. One to introduce steampunk, explain what it is and perhaps where it came from, and one to delve a little deeper, talk about what it has become as a genre and as a sub-culture. I'm a bit of a newbie to steampunk, I could write these myself but it would be much better if somebody who knows their stuff would be willing to help me out a little. I'm not expecting anything epic, just so long as the posts have the right information and are eloquent that is all I need. I'm also looking for artists and/or crafters who either specifically deal with steampunk, or occasionally dip in and out. It would be cool to have one or two come over and talk a little about their art/crafts and why they chose steampunk as a theme and let us know if they're available for any commission work or where to buy prints or link to their stores or anything like that.
If you're not able to help, but know of somebody who can, please send them my way, it will be really helping me out!
Thanks for reading 🙂


text:
Delivering Style and Innovation to the Homes of Today... and Tomorrow!
Enhance every home you build with stylish, innovative appliances that home buyers demand. Home buyers expect appliances that meet the needs of their everyday lives, are easy to use and reflect the style of their individual tastes. But, to provide appliances you will truly appreciate and will use for years to come, requires a higher level of commitment. Their commitment to quality, craftsmanship and style challenges them to design products that lead the industry in innovation and design.
Whirlpool 6.7 Total cu. ft. Double Oven Electric Range with Induction Cooktop
Take home a leader in cooking consistency and control with the industry's first induction double oven freestanding range. AccuHeat induction technology transfers energy directly into magnetic cookware, so you get powerful cooking without feeling heat from the cooktop. This Whirlpool 6.7 total cu. ft. electric model also featuresan 11" 3,700-watt Induction Boost element and the AccuBake system. It uses a built-in sensor to monitor oven temperature and the baking elements to deliver consistent, delicious results every time. And, when you need tastier roasts and baked bread, TimeSavor convection cooking distributes hot air more efficiently to seal in flavors and juices. Now you can take home an oven that senses and adapts to your needs to deliver the delicious results you want.


text:
The Lamaze method is virtually synonymous with natural childbirth in America. In the 1970s, taking Lamaze classes was a common rite of passage to parenthood. The conscious relaxation and patterned breathing techniques touted as a natural and empowering path to the alleviation of pain in childbirth resonated with the feminist and countercultural values of the era.
In Lamaze, historian Paula A. Michaels tells the surprising story of the Lamaze method from its origins in the Soviet Union in the 1940s, to its popularization in France in the 1950s, and then to its heyday in the 1960s and 1970s in the US. Michaels shows how, for different reasons, in disparate national contexts, this technique for managing the pain of childbirth without resort to drugs found a following. The Soviet government embraced this method as a panacea to childbirth pain in the face of the material shortages that followed World War II. Heated and sometimes ideologically inflected debates surrounded the Lamaze method as it moved from East to West amid the Cold War. Physicians in France sympathetic to the communist cause helped to export it across the Iron Curtain, but politics alone fails to explain why French women embraced this approach. Arriving on American shores around 1960, the Lamaze method took on new meanings. Initially it offered a path to a safer and more satisfying birth experience, but overtly political considerations came to the fore once again as feminists appropriated it as a way to resist the patriarchal authority of male obstetricians.
Drawing on a wealth of archival evidence, Michaels pieces together this complex and fascinating story at the crossroads of the history of politics, medicine, and women.The story of Lamaze illuminates the many contentious issues that swirl around birthing practices in America and Europe. Brimming with insight, Michaels' engaging history offers an instructive intervention in the debate about how to achieve humane, empowering, and safe maternity care for all women.
We've sent an email with your order details. Order ID #:
Listen on the Audible app or these devices.Launch Audible App
-or-Download Free Audible App
To access this title, visit your library in the app or on the desktop website.
Listen on the Audible app or these devices.Launch Audible App
-or-Download Free Audible App
Audible does not currently have the rights to sell this title in your country.
Please consider another book.Continue Browsing
Please add a payment method to continue.Add a Payment Method
Please edit your payment details or add a new card.
If the problem persists, contact customer service at (888) 283-5051Review My Payment Method
If the problem persists, contact customer service at (888) 283-5051
Please add your billing address to continue.Add My Billing Address
Please select a default credit card to continue.Select Credit Card
It looks like you've already used the specified payment method for a free trial.
Please contact customer service if you think we have made a mistake. (888) 283-5051Start Your $14.95 Membership
If the problem persists, contact customer service at (888) 283-5051
If the problem persists, contact customer service at (888) 283-5051


text:
Travel kit : don't forget your 16mm pancake lens
I'm back from a 15 days trip in the US.
My travel kit was NX10 + 16 + 30 + Canon FD 135 f2.8. I didn't anticipate it, but most of my shots were taken with the 16mm.
From my experience, the 30mm looks sharper (it is fantastic), but the 16mm is definitely good also. Note that I didn't experience any problem with field curvature.
Obviously, the 16mm is the one for wide angle shots (first picture). Using a stitching software (here, Microsoft ICE), you can even easily go ultra-wide (second picture).
But the real surprise was for me that I felt more comfortable with the 16 than with the 30 for Street Photography (third picture). The point is that since I didn't have a lot of time for the "move your feet" way of zooming, I preferred having a little more in the frame (I don't print in A2 size so I'm not afraid of cropping).
Thanks for reading my two cents worth experience. I wanted to give justice to the not always well-reviewed 16mm pancake lens
PS : Please excuse my approximative use of English.
|Post (hide subjects)
|Posted by
|Aug 9, 2012
|Aug 9, 2012
|Aug 9, 2012
|Aug 9, 2012
|Aug 9, 2012
|Aug 9, 2012
|Aug 10, 2012
|Aug 10, 2012
|DSC_9643 by NOWHITELENS
from Best Photo of the Week
|Thailand Sunrise by ozziebadger
from Ships and Boats


text:
- View video text transcription
"Hi I'm Dr. Corey Maas, a board certified facial plastic surgeon in San Francisco and associate clinical professor at the University of California, San Francisco. I want to talk to you about an area of special interest that I have and that's facelift surgery. Traditional methods of face-lifting surgery and a lot of the rumors and wives tales that are out there are largely inaccurate.
Today we can do a variety of different types of facelift surgery from minimally invasive small incision surgeries to more extensive surgeries, all in the same day, all under a light type of anesthesia that requires no long term recovery, and we can have people back in their normal social functioning within a couple weeks after the procedure. The procedure itself is pain-free and the recovery is very comfortable. Most people don't even have to take pain medications. Let me tell you a little bit about how we do it.
For the average patient by the time we're 40 and getting into our early 50's, we see significantly jowling, the effect of drooping right along the jawline and sagging of the mid-face area here, and we see the neck become lax, and you just lose your neck angle here, this goes completely away and it looks like a turkey gobbler.
What a lower facelift, or a cervical facial rhytidoplasty, in fancy terms does, is restores the facial contour.
A lot of people have the misconception that face-lifting is about pulling the face real tight, or that we're coming up on the brow head, those are not accurate. What face-lifting does, whether its minimally invasive, minor techniques, or the more expensive SMAS techniques, is restore facial contour.
When we do the procedure, these incisions are carefully hidden. They're hidden back behind the hairline, a little incision is made, a little incision behind the front part of the ear here, all hidden behind the cartilage and then back behind the ear and into the hairline.
This gives us, as you can see, an incision that's not visible to the average eye that's all hidden in special areas. That allows us to leave the loose tissue in this area, skin in particular, elevate this, and restore contour by pulling back and restoring the normal or youthful position of the deeper SMAS layer that's underneath the skin. We're not pulling the skin real tight, we're restoring contour by adjusting the SMAS layer.
Let's take a look at a couple of examples of patients who have these facial aging changes and what they look like after a lower facelift or a minilift.
You can see a dramatic improvement in the patient's jawline, a natural improvement to their face. An important concept about lifting is that people look natural. Face-lifting makes you look better, it does not make you look like you have plastic surgery.
So if you're interested in this procedure for facial rejuvenation or any of the other services we offer, please visit our website or call our office for appointment."


text:
Unable to close the popup.
Have done the best I can
Can someone please help me here.
Would also like to be able to display without scrolling bars
Here is the link
You will find that scripts are typically not allowed to close a window that wasn't already opened by a script.
Paul, thanks for your reply


text:
North Bay Imports
Review for North Bay Imports
JASON S. on 12/29/2011
"Audi dealer no, Northbay Imports Yes!!"
If you have issues with your Audi take it to Northbay they know their stuff. They are professional and charge less than the stealership.
Vehicle: Audi A4
Service Date: 12/28/2011
Review Created: 12/29/2011 07:00 PM


text:
Benjamin, Shereen (2001) Student identity work and the micro. Other thesis, Institute of Education, University of London.Full text not available from this repository.
|Item Type:
|Thesis (Other)
|Additional Information:
|Thesis: (PhD) University of London Institute of Education, 2001.
|Depositing User:
|Batch Import
|Date Deposited:
|29 Oct 2014 10:55
|Last Modified:
|29 Oct 2014 10:55
|View Record in Library Catalogue:


text:
Eau Claire MI Real Estate & Homes for Sale
20 Properties Found
The median home value in Eau Claire, MI is $85,000.
This is
lower than
the county median home value of $130,000.
The national median home value is $185,800.
The average price of homes sold in Eau Claire, MI is $85,000.
Approximately 56.06% of Eau Claire homes are owned,
compared to 14.39% rented, while
29.55% are vacant.
Eau Claire real estate listings include condos, townhomes, and single family homes for sale.
Commercial properties are also available.
If you see a property you're interested in, contact a Eau Claire real estate agent to arrange a tour today!
Sort Results:
1–20 of 20 properties displayed
Refine Property Search
Page 1 of 1 Prev | Next
Courtesy: Cressy & Everett Real Estate Judith Murray
View additional info
Bigger than it looks! Great one-level living in custom built ranch home. This home features a huge country kitchen, and dining room that's perfect for Holiday entertaining for 2 or 20 guests!Make this house your home!
2512 S Park Eau Claire, MI 49111
Courtesy: Attila Real Estate Dawn Tomlinson
View additional info
This 3 bedroom 2 bath Cape Cod is the perfect fit for the nature enthusiast. Over 19 acres of mostly wooded land with a stream running through and trails throughout make this a fun playground for ATV vehicles. Large 1200 sq ft pole barn which has a mechanic's pit. Main floor bathroom remodeled in 2016. Newer kitchen with stainless steel appliances and wood-like porcelain tile flooring. This rustic location is ideal with it's close vicinity to US 31 bypass and I-94.
Courtesy: Cressy & Everett Real Estate Shelly Myers
View additional info
PIPESTONE LAKE waterfront!! 3 bedroom home with 83ft of waterfront on All Sports Pipestone Lake. Enjoy main floor living in this home. The utility/laundry room is plumbed for an additional half bath. Open concept living/kitchen makes it easy to entertain or just overlook a fire in the wood burning fireplace. An abundance of outdoor storage is available as this home includes a 2 car detached garage, a storage shed and an additional shed/beach house. Located near Sister Lakes, 2 hours from Chicago and 40 minutes from Notre Dame. This home is a great get away for anyone ready to make some lake memories.
8755 Marl Eau Claire, MI 49111
Courtesy: Sunrise Real Estate, Inc. Brian Brant
View additional info
Better than lake front! Why pay the high prices & property taxes for a lake front home when you can be this close to the water & park your boat at a leased dock very nearby... all for a lot less? This well maintained ranch style home is in a particularly pleasant, low traffic location at Pipestone Lake in Bainbridge Township. Pipestone lake is a largely undeveloped full recreation/all sports lake. If offers great fishing, boating, kayaking, etc. And, for the winter sports enthusiast its' close to the snowmobile trails too! Besides the great location this home offers a nice view, main floor laundry, covered front porch, a huge deck, a fireplace, storage shed, and more. *** availability of boat docks is subject to change. Contact agent for details.
6326 Naomi Road Eau Claire, MI 49111
Courtesy: Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Michigan Real Estate Karin Buda
View additional info
Huge price reduction! You will love this 3000 + sq ft 4 bedroom home nestled on your own private 3-acre parcel. The main level master bedroom suite features dual shower heads in ceramic shower. An open concept kitchen w/stainless appliances and quartz counter tops are just waiting for your next family gathering. Going upstairs you find an open lounge area that leads to 3 bedrooms, full bath and a laundry nook. Walk out basement with rec room, kitchenette, fireplace and second laundry room that contains additional bathroom facilities. The lower level has has a water proofing system. The amenities continue outside with a built-in pool. The huge two story barn has three overhead doors and heated workshop area. House is equipped with a Central E-Classic Wood burning Boi
6750 Bailey Rd Eau Claire, MI 49111
Courtesy: Coldwell Banker Advantage Michele Kaiser
View additional info
OPPORTUNITY IS KNOCKING on this Private 30 acre parcel including 10 acres of 2 mini-lakes boasting peace and tranquility. Could be a great family and friends getaway! Enjoy nature's beauty and wildlife with this once in a lifetime offering to own your own private body of water stocked with Blue Gill and Bass. Stunning sun-set views over the tree-line from your back deck and family room. This 1,850 square foot home offers 3 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, a family room with vaulted ceilings and wood burning fireplace. 2 wells & 2 septic systems on property. You will also enjoy the walk-out basement, an attached two-car garage & an additional outbuilding with lower level. Only 90 minutes from Chicago & Grand Rapids, 30 minutes from South Bend. Shown by appointment only
Courtesy: Cressy & Everett Real Estate Dave Springsteen
View additional info
Spectacular 42 acres offering a contemporary ranch home. The acreage consists of meadows, garden ares, & woods that have acres of trails for your ATVs. The home sits 1000 ft back on a small hill overlooking the acreage & in-ground pool. Enjoy the stone fireplace in the living room that features vaulted ceilings & skylights. The open floor plan offers a large dining area & updated kitchen w/granite & built-in appliances. The master suite features a huge closet, a master bath w/soaker tub & tiled shower. Also, a covered porch off the master suite. Other features include hardwood floors, Geothermal heat, beautiful pool area w/multiple decks, 40x48 pole barn w/shop & door large enough for your RV, full basement to finish for extra space, & main floor laundry. This home won't last!
Courtesy: Keller Williams Realty SWM Sonja Riedlinger
View additional info
Beautiful 3 bedroom 2 full bath ranch overlooking the pond, has the serene country setting you have been searching for. Spacious master suite. Kitchen with attached 3 season room with views of the pond. Two car attached garage. Main floor washer/dryer. 4ft cement floor crawl space provides great storage. Great location. Close to schools. Call today this home will qualify for $0 down.
33628 Zero Lane Eau Claire, MI 49111
Courtesy: The Lake Life Realty Group Paul DeLano
View additional info
2 Bed, 2 bath Year Round Cottage with 416 Ft of Frontage on Indian Lake. Amazing panoramic views of Indian Lake, Large lake side lawn and its own private boat ramp.
Courtesy: Cressy & Everett Real Estate Shirley Behm
View additional info
Do you need some views, some wet toes, and a lake breeze to unwind? If this is on your wish list, come out and see 7224 Brush Lake Road, what an incredible opportunity to live on the water, own a home that is lovingly cared for, spacious and has plenty of room for company! Four bedrooms, three and a half baths and an added mother in-law suite with three Patio doors inviting that lake view inside make this home a one of a kind and an open concept just seals the deal! A full finished walk out basement with it's own pellet stove and an extra Single car garage for storing you water toys makes this home a rare find! Sitting far off the road down its paved driveway with 3.89 acres offers homeowner plenty of yard space to entertain. Come on over..sit on the deck and ''JUST BREATH''
Courtesy: Cressy & Everett Real Estate Sheree Slott
View additional info
Indian Lake Fantastic Cottage with overhanging lakeside deck. 70' private waterfront. Throw out your line while you enjoy your morning coffee! 2 story cottage with full width decks on both levels. Low maintenance, 2 bedrooms, fireplace, screened room lakeside opening onto the large deck. Private pier. Located near golf course, farm markets, orchards, fine dining. Indian Lake, 509 A All sport lake, with on lake marine fuel at the Indian Lake Yacht Club.
Courtesy: Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage Angella Braden German
View additional info
LAKE-FRONT HOME with amazing water views!!! Private water frontage on Pipestone Lake, with a dock. HALF-AN-ACRE of property too. Charming and quintessential Michigan Getaway for all generations to enjoy. Great vacation rental potential, as well.
Courtesy: Cressy & Everett Real Estate Dennis Bamber
View additional info
65 ACRES WITH RANCH HOUSE,waiting to be farmed with a 56 x 135 large BARN, a 36 x 48 back small shed, and another 30 x 40 barn. Ranch House has new insulated windows, new roof, and with a little elbow grease, it would make a very nice home. THe farm land is a set aside CRP for 4 more years. Buyer would have to agree to keep the set aside or take the necessary legal means to leave it.
Courtesy: Evergreen Real Estate Kerry Wright
View additional info
Peaceful country living within walking distance to Eau Claire High School. This MOVE IN READY ranch style home features main floor living with 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms. Wonderful OPEN FLOOR PLAN.The master bedroom features private master bath including walk in closet.Enjoy meals in the spacious kitchen with dining area. From the kitchen,enjoy the large deck overlooking the sights and sounds of nature. Enjoy the fully finished walk-out basement with bedroom,family room, full bath and french doors that lead to the private backyard and hot tub. Located in central Berrien County,30 min from Notre Dame and University Mall shopping,beautiful Lake Michigan beaches in St. Joseph and Bridgman, Howard Performing Arts at Andrews University and Berrien County Youth Fair Grounds in Berrien Springs.
Courtesy: Cressy & Everett Real Estate Sheree Slott
View additional info
Indian Lake; This Charming Cottage is situated on the North side of Indian Lake, a gorgeous 500+ acre all-sports lake. It has a stunning south-facing view accentuated by a full wall of sliding glass doors, which open onto a large lakeside deck and patio; a few nearby trees provide excellent shade for those hot afternoons! Cottage includes 34' of lake frontage and a pleasurable sandy beach. Inside, the house has a breezy open concept floor plan, along with a full bath, big kitchen, ample living room area and washer/dryer on the main floor. Upper level includes a landing at the top of the quaint stairway (which could easily provide extra sleeping space if needed), spacious lakeside master bedroom with a balcony, roomy second bedroom with beautiful built-in bunks (sleeps 6!) and a half ba
Courtesy: Cressy & Everett Real Estate Michael Barber
View additional info
YOU ...CAN HEAR YOURSELF THINK!! Country setting, drive up to your 3 bedroom 2 bath home nestled on 3.09acres dappled withwalnut trees, mature pines,oaks and maples. Relax on your rear deck overlooking your tree lined drive. 30x30 Pole barn/garage, Walk out basement,5'' well.Very close proximity to orchards,farm stands,Pipestone Creek Golf Course and the 31 Bypass.
6512 Hoyt Eau Claire, MI 49111
Courtesy: Siriano Realty Christopher Siriano
View additional info
This old Victorian home sits high on a hill overlooking the village of Eau Claire & has frontage on 2 streets. The home is only steps away from the city park and town, yet is situated in a quiet area away from the hustle & bustle of a neat little downtown! Great community known for farming, good schools & good people, Eau Claire is only a 10 minute drive to major shopping centers & restaurants & roughly 25 minutes to the most beautiful beaches in Michigan! This home is in need of lots of restoration but has beautiful features like a gorgeous original stairway, ornate woodwork & neat fretwork on the exterior & tall ceilings. Needs a new roof which the current will do for an additional $5000. The home is currently a mess from the person who had owned it for 60+ years so watch your step!
Courtesy: REOZOM REAL ESTATE SERV Justin Tibble
View additional info
There are appliances and heating systems in the main house and in the apartment above the garage, all are sold with the property and are to be sold ''as is''. We plan on selling the property mostly furnished also. There are 3 watercraft boats that can be sold separately they are a 23 foot Moomba Mobius V in board wake board boat, a 20 ft Monarch Pontoon with a 50 HP merc, and 900SX Jet Ski wave runner.
Courtesy: McLauchlin Realty, Inc. Scott McLauchlin
View additional info
Exquisitely maintained, Painted, decorated and move-in ready!! This modern, open-concept home on the edge of Eau Claire could be just what you're looking for. You'll love all the light, not only in the sunroom but throughout the house. Huge rooms, large bedrooms, main floor laundry, big eat-in country kitchen and formal dining room too!!! Windows were just replaced, the furnace is high efficiency and the roof is only 3 years old!! The only thing you need to decide is whether you want to keep the carpet or remove it to enjoy the beautiful original hardwood floors throughout the house. Storage and work area no problem with a full basement accessible from outside and a 3 car garage. Stroll downtown or enjoy your peaceful patio. Winter is near you'll enjoy nights by the large fireplace!!
Courtesy: McLauchlin Realty, Inc. Corey Johnson
View additional info
Solid built home in a nice quiet location near the park and schools. Lots of attention to detail in the building of this home with hardwood floors. Walk out basement waiting to be finished the way you want. The owners have invested $30,000 into a water proofing system for the basement. Comfortable sized lot with access on two roads.
Refine Property Search
Page 1 of 1 Prev | Next
1–20 of 20 properties displayed
How may I help you?
Get property information, schedule a showing or find an agent
Eau Claire & Nearby CitiesEau Claire Real Estate Berrien Center Homes for Sale Berrien Springs Homes for Sale Sodus Homes for Sale Dowagiac Homes for Sale Baroda Homes for Sale Niles Homes for Sale Buchanan Homes for Sale Stevensville Homes for Sale Benton Harbor Homes for Sale Bridgman Homes for Sale
Eau Claire ZIPs49111 Homes for Sale


text:
Results 1 to 20 of 20
April 2nd, 2013, 07:04 PM #1
ViewThrough Model
- Join Date
- January 18th, 2005
- Posts
- 1,466
I received the below email and after a few minutes, I replied this is what I said, does anyone agree?
Sorry, not part of my business plan. Thinking about this, this isn't a good thing, it means a clicked cookie (which is much more substantial) could get wiped away by a site who just happened to have a banner on their site that might not even be seen or is conglomerated/lost with a bunch of banners on a page that a visitor might be passing through.
I also think since you asked ;-) well not but you can't stop me from thinking and putting it out here, this is the type of marketing that google is trying to stop. They want substantial sites with lots of content, not sites with lots of ads that affiliates put on in hopes of setting a cookie. If a visitor never clicked on the banner than what has the affiliate really done to gain the next sale.
Thank you for your offer,
Original email
I hope this email finds you well. On behalf of the
affiliate program, we would like to exclusively invite you to join the program and partner together on a ViewThrough Model basis. With ViewThrough, you are able to use your remnant ad space and earn commissions on the sales that are attributed to those last viewed banners by your customers. ViewThrough enables you to drop the cookie more often which will help capture more sales throughout the purchase life cycle.
ViewThrough Payout Structure
Cookies drops for each impression!
5% Commission, with a 7 Day referral period
April 2nd, 2013, 07:13 PM #2
- Join Date
- April 6th, 2006
- Posts
- 2,689
I received a similar email today, but haven't yet formed a proper opinion.
At first glance I'm not sure I understand the technology (as a disclaimer, I'm having a slow mental day!).
How is this different from regular banners that we place on our site..? A cookie is a cookie is a cookie... when clicked, that is..
Are they saying the impression drops a cookie..?
April 2nd, 2013, 07:14 PM #3
Is this something new at CJ?
I actually was reading an offer from an exisiting merchant and saw they added: "ViewThrough Campaigns" to their TOS. Came back to ABW and searched for "ViewThrough" - here I am.
ViewThrough Campaigns
Guidelines relating to ViewThrough campaigns such as minimum banner size, ad reload, and 'above the fold' ad placement.
Merchant's Terms: Must have impression tracking enabled and must use banners for display.Salty kisses, Sandy toes, and a Pirate's heart...
April 2nd, 2013, 07:20 PM #4
Hey Oranges, same merchant. Just pulled this afternoon's emails...Salty kisses, Sandy toes, and a Pirate's heart...
April 2nd, 2013, 07:28 PM #5
- Join Date
- January 18th, 2005
- Posts
- 1,466
Convergence, Cool that you read your own emails ;-) I don't always give each of them the attention they deserve.
teezone: yes that is what I think this is saying, impressions = cookies regardless of clicking. At least that is what I am posting about.
April 3rd, 2013, 09:59 AM #6
Any affiliate managers with programs on CJ that can elaborate on this "ViewThrough Campaigns" being offered?Salty kisses, Sandy toes, and a Pirate's heart...
Thanks From:
April 3rd, 2013, 11:43 AM #7
Looks like this was implemented a year ago, first I have heard of it. Looks like a retargeting strategy. We discounted CPC 10 years ago because it was gamed heavily by affiliates. Not sure why I would allow an affiliate to drop a cookie just for showing a banner unless I wanted to milk the merchant.
April 3rd, 2013, 11:48 AM #8
Sounds like cookie stuffing to me....
April 3rd, 2013, 07:37 PM #9
Could actually be useful for real big brands. Where if you have a huge animated banner attracting the user to visit the brand and they decide to just visit the site without clicking the ad. Plus it says it doesn't overwrite any cookies where someone clicked.
April 4th, 2013, 09:02 AM #10
What's interesting is that these networks don't allow you to send them ppv traffic, yet they are now offering ppv themselves.
April 15th, 2013, 12:42 PM #11
Actually CJ has a page about this: ViewThrough Ad Tracking | Commission Junction US
Clicks always trump impressions, but in the absence of a click, the publisher who displayed that last impression is paid the commission.
April 15th, 2013, 12:49 PM #12
Don't really know how we would implement it - we don't put actual banner code on our sites. We host all images through our ad server, so no cookie is associated with any banner.
Hmmm. Guess "could" serve up html banners. However, from past experience don't like the idea of merchants being able to change out the banner images on a whim...Salty kisses, Sandy toes, and a Pirate's heart...
April 15th, 2013, 12:56 PM #13
I've had programs with blogs and forums that send tons of images but few if any clicks. Have not found a good working model as a work around and they generally leave due to lack of conversion. This is a great way to reward them otherwise.
April 15th, 2013, 01:16 PM #14
April 15th, 2013, 01:20 PM #15
It lends itself to the attribution model that many are working on. Only way to know if it is effective is to test it, analyze the data and see if it increases sales.
April 15th, 2013, 01:26 PM #16
Does participating in such a program change your status?
IE: Disclosure of Promotional Methods
Salty kisses, Sandy toes, and a Pirate's heart...
April 15th, 2013, 04:17 PM #17
I haven't seen anything in recent applications but not sure if I would have to have that added to a program to see potential affiliates.
April 21st, 2013, 01:01 PM #18
- Join Date
- January 18th, 2005
- Posts
- 1,466
It seems to me that the affiliates that do get a click have done more work (or at least defined work) than those who don't get a click. Just because you got an impression doesn't mean you have done anything to generate a sale. That is also not necessarily true when you get a click but at least it is something. But for a site that gets the last impression get the sale doesn't seem right.
If a merchant wants to keep a blogger (or any other site) that gets lots of impressions not clicks then they can pay them per impression. I don't recommend this but at least its fair to everyone. Cookie setting should be based upon clicks not impressions.
Also, those impressions are based upon an invisible 1x1 image. An affiliate could simply put hundreds of them on a page to get those cookies so as to not clutter their pages with irrelevant banners. I can see it now, on a page I could have a banner that changes dynamically but all the impressions are set regardless. If a merchant visits the page and asks about it the affiliate says well the banners change all the time click it enough and you'll find yours which is true but disingenuous.
April 21st, 2013, 02:44 PM #19
The internet is a fad.
April 21st, 2013, 02:47 PM #20
Similar Threads
Forum Model Worth It?By OICUAM2 in forum Midnight Cafe'Replies: 8Last Post: May 6th, 2010, 09:51 PM


text:
"Payment cards are the most frequently used electronic payment instrument for retail purchases. However, integration of the [European] Union [(EU)] payment card market is far from complete as many payment solutions cannot develop beyond their national borders and new pan-[EU] players are prevented from entering the market.".1 The Regulation of the European Parliament and of the Council on Interchange Fees for Card-Based Payment Transactions (the Regulation) is intended to address each of these issues.
The final text of the Regulation was adopted by the European Parliament at first reading in a plenary session on 10 March 2015 and adopted by the European Council on 20 April 2015. The Regulation was published in the Official Journal of the EU on 19 May 2015. The Regulation will come into force 20 days after publication in the Official Journal on 8 June 2015 and will have direct effect in Member States.2
First things first: scope and definitions
The Regulation applies to card-based payment transactions carried out within the EU, where the payer's and the payee's payment services providers (PSPs) are both in the EU. However, it doesn't apply to commercial card transactions, or cash withdrawals at ATMs.3For these purposes: 4
Click here to view table.
Restrictions on interchange fees
The following fee caps will take effect from 9 December 2015:7
Click here to view table.
For these purposes, "any agreed remuneration, including net compensation, which has the equivalent object or effect as an interchange fee, received by an issuer from the payment card scheme, acquirer, or any other intermediary, in relation to payment transactions or related activities shall be treated as part of the interchange fee."
Other provisions
The Regulation has a number of other provisions designed to encourage competition and enhance consumer protection. The Regulation will:
- (From 9 December 2015), 9 prohibit (i) intra-EU territorial restrictions; (ii) requirements or obligations to obtain country specific licences or authorisations to operate on a cross-border basis; and (iii) (in either case) rules with an equivalent effect in licensing agreements or payment card scheme rules;
- (From 9 June 2016),10 require that payment card schemes and processing entities:< >Are separated in accounting and organisational terms;Do not:Present bundled prices for payment card scheme and processing activities;Cross-subsidise these activities;Discriminate between (i) their subsidiaries or shareholders, on the one hand; and (ii) users of these schemes, and other contractual partners, on the other; orMake the provision of any service they offer conditional on the acceptance of any other service they offer;(From 9 June 2016),11 payment card schemes and processing entities are prohibited from including in their scheme rules and licensing agreements, any provisions that "hinder or prevent an issuer from co-badging different payment brands on a card based payment service".(From 12 months after it comes into force),12 require processing entities within the EU to ensure that their systems are interoperable with the systems of other processing entities by meeting the standards developed by international or European standardisation bodies;(From 9 June 2016), require acquirers to:Offer and charge payees merchant service charges that are individually specified for different categories and different brands of payment cards with different interchange levels (unless merchants make a written request for blended merchant service charges); andInclude in their agreements with payees individually specified information on the amount of the merchant services charges, interchange fees and scheme fees applicable to each category and brand of payment cards, unless the payee subsequently makes a different request in writing".(From 9 December 2015),13 require the payee's PSP to provide the payee with:
- "The reference enabling the payee to identify the card-based payment transaction";
- "The amount of the payment transaction in the currency in which the payee's payment account is credited"; and
- The amount of any charges for the card-based payment transaction, with the merchant service charge and the amount of the interchange fees appearing separately;
(in each case), at least once a month, in a form that allows the payee to store and reproduce the information unchanged.
- (From 9 June 2016),14 prohibit application of the 'Honour all Cards' rule which "obliges payees accepting a card-based payment instrument issued by one issuer also to accept other card-based payment instruments issued within the framework of the same payment card scheme". The prohibition will not apply to "consumer card-based payment instruments of the same brand and the same category of prepaid card, debit card or credit card subject to interchange fees". What this means is that a merchant accepting debit cards for example, will not be obliged to accept credit cards, but would be obliged to accept debit cards of the same brand, which are subject to the same regulated interchange fee. The aim is to enable "merchants to limit the choice of payment cards they offer to low(er) cost payment cards only", which "benefit[s] consumers through reduced merchants' costs", and to "protect…the consumer's ability to use the payment cards [of the same brand and category] as often as possible ."
- (From 8 June 2015),15 prohibit "any rule in licensing agreements, in scheme rules…and in agreements…between card acquirers and payees preventing payees from steering consumers to the use of any payment instrument preferred by the payee". Payees will also be forbidden from "treating card-based payment instruments of a given payment card scheme more or less favourably than others".
Final Thoughts
The Regulation should be read alongside, and interpreted with, the proposed second Payment Services Directive (PSD2) (for further information, read our Client Alert here). The legislative proposals for PSD2 were published at the same time as the European Commission adopted proposals for the Regulation. PSD2 will ban surcharges16 for card-based payment transactions, which the Commission argues will no longer be justified after interchange fees are capped by the Regulation because merchants' costs for card-based transactions will reduce. These changes are intended by the European institutions to form part of a cohesive legislative whole that will enhance consumer protection, lower prices and fees, and ensure the continued development of the internal market in respect of payment services over time.


text:
We're celebrating and thanking RSVP volunteers for their efforts and to increase public awareness of RSVP. Check here for stories about volunteers that have been inspired to share their experiences, or have inspired others.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." – Margaret Mead
Al Olson accepting his ServeMT Award in Helena
February 23, 2012
Dolores and Martin Steiner Receive Award
Miles City Soup Kitchen Receives Award
Top Stories of 2012
August 11, 2012 57 RSVP Volunteers (of which 16 were veterans) participated in the Eastern Montana Veterans Stand Down.
The event was organized by the Miles City Job Service Workforce Center with the help of many local agencies and held at the Eastern Montana Fairgrounds. RSVP members prepared and served lunch to all volunteers and the 70 plus veterans attending.
RSVP Volunteers assisted in the following ways:
- Baked Cookies
- Helped Set Up and Take Down Tables
- Sorted and Displayed Clothing
- Assisted Veterans in picking out clothing
- Prepared and served lunch to veterans and volunteers (approximately 200 individuals)
- Cleaned up after serving lunch
- Assisted at vendor booths
- Assisted with registration volunteers
- Assisted with registration of veterans
- Assisted at the breakfast table
- Gave away Disaster Preparedness/Hygiene Bags
"The many RSVP Volunteers who assisted with the 3rd Annual Eastern Montana Veterans' Stand Down in Miles City this Fall were not only helpful, they provided crucial assistance in filling the many positions that we needed for the event to be a success. RSVP Volunteers worked many hours stuffing personal care bags, registering Veterans and their families, cooking, serving food, cleaning, organizing clothing and many other duties as necessary. I don't think it's an understatement to say that the Stand Down event could not have happened without them!"
Kim Blunt, Manager,
Miles City Job Service Workforce Center
In January 2012 RSVP volunteers formed a group to make hats for the children at Head Start. The goal was to make 75 hats/caps for the students which would then be presented in the fall of 2012. This small group (4-6 women) met each Tuesday (except for the summer months) and were able to present 95 caps to the students. Their only reward was watching the smiles on those 75 children as they received a new hat. The group enjoyed this project so much they have agreed to continue meeting throughout 2013 and give away hats/caps again.
With the retirement of the medical transportation coordinator at the Miles City VA Medical Center the duties have been taken over by Al Olson, RSVP volunteer & veteran. Al continues to drive the van to Sturgis, SD; Sheridan, WY, Billings and other Montana cities as well as organizing and training drivers. According to Al in a one month period of time volunteers drove 5,558 miles (116 hours) to medical facilities in Montana, Wyoming and South Dakota to provide service to 47 veterans.
Fall of 2012 I was approached to find a volunteer put 4-H pictures (many years worth) in scrapbooks for the Custer County Extension Office. I approached Juanita Stinson, a widow living 10 miles north of town, to volunteer for this project. Juanita now volunteers weekly and the workstation supervisor loves her. Juanita has helped with many other projects including preparing books for the Story Walk.


text:
Special Offer:
Gulp!® Hellgramite
$2.79 - $5.99
Details nullhttp://www.berkley-fishing.com/berkley-bait-soft-bait-berkley-gulp/gulp-hellgramite/1285373.html
Bait Length
Still deciding? Try the
Product Actions
- Lifelike imitation of hard to find and catch hellgramites
- Perfect for trout and panfish
- Expand your strike zone with 400x more scent dispersion than plastic baits
- Over 15 years of Gulp! evolution…the best keeps getting better
Gulp! has 400 times more scent dispersion than ordinary plastic bait. The extreme scent dispersion greatly expands the strike zone allowing you to catch more fish! Even more impressive, the natural formulation of Gulp! outfishes live bait in head to head field tests. Berkley Gulp! truly is the next generation in soft bait!
Gulp!® Hellgramite
Use filters to find the right modelClear Filters
MODEL # GH3-BL$5.99View model specificationsView LargerBait Length3in | 8cmColorBlackPackage Count12PackagingBag
MODEL # GH3-GP$5.99View model specificationsView LargerBait Length3in | 8cmColorGreen PumpkinPackage Count12PackagingBag
MODEL # GHH1-BL$3.99 $2.79View model specificationsView LargerBait Length1 1/2in | 4cmColorBlackPackage Count12PackagingHalf Bag
MODEL # GHH1-BLR$3.99 $2.79View model specificationsView LargerBait Length1 1/2in | 4cmColorBlack Red FleckPackage Count12PackagingHalf Bag
MODEL # GHH1-BGY$3.99 $2.79View model specificationsView LargerBait Length1 1/2in | 4cmColorBlack-GreyPackage Count12PackagingHalf Bag
MODEL # GHH1-BGM$3.99 $2.79View model specificationsView LargerBait Length1 1/2in | 4cmColorBubblegumPackage Count12PackagingHalf Bag
MODEL # GHH1-CH$3.99 $2.79View model specificationsView LargerBait Length1 1/2in | 4cmColorChartreusePackage Count12PackagingHalf Bag
MODEL # GHH1-NAT$3.99 $2.79View model specificationsView LargerBait Length1 1/2in | 4cmColorNaturalPackage Count12PackagingHalf Bag
Product Reviews
Gulp!® Hellgramite is rated out of 5 by 18.
Rated 5 out of 5 by Streamfisherman from Easy to use! Bought these last week. Finally got them out on the water, my wife hooked up with a nice smallmouth first cast! Ended the day with about 25 total and only used two baits from the package.
Date published: 2014-06-12
Rated 5 out of 5 by Billfish from Great bait. I bought these (hellgramites) to try on trout during periods of no hatches.I have used Gulp shrimp for many years,and because they worked so well,I thought I would give these a try.I used the 1 1/2" in black,on a size 10 bait holder hook with the barb pinched down.I felt like a little 8 year old kid again,catching brookies (Brook Trout) at will in the small streams coming down out of the mountains.I haven't tried them on brown trout---YET,but will this week on larger streams,might have to use the 3" hellgramites!!
Date published: 2017-06-20
Rated 5 out of 5 by Just try to out fish me from Experimenting I tried the 3inch gulp hellgramites, both on a drop shot and Caroline rig. I caught fish on both set ups. But only a couple, I think I need to buy a bottle of the recharge to keep the sent fresh. I know the bass were still biting because i still caught fish on other set ups. I will keep experimenting with this product I think it's worth having in your bag of tricks.
Date published: 2016-07-24
Rated 5 out of 5 by Iggy from I have had a lot of problems finding this in our local big box stores and the baitshops in the area because they are a good bait and they sell out of them. I use the "bugs" quite often for crappie and gills in Michigan. I only hope now that I receive the $10 rebate from Berkley as promised.
Date published: 2016-03-18
Rated 5 out of 5 by oldman60 from I am dumb founded as to why Berkley discontinued the black olive 3 inch hellgrammite won quite a few tournaments on that bait would like to know why as far as I am concerned you can get rid of the green pumpkin and the black , black olive out performed them both truly dissatisfied
Date published: 2014-11-13
Rated 5 out of 5 by Corey1981 from Simply perfection These are best baits I have ever used! I catch smallmouths, largemouths, trout, and panfish on these all the time. They are my favorite bait to use! The minnows and worms are great too! If it says gulp alive on it, it will catch fish.
Date published: 2016-08-28
Rated 5 out of 5 by Jamieboy from My favorite bait...period Bought these a while back and decided to try them out. Glad I did! Caught 2 nice bass and a pile, I mean a pile of crappie! People were looking at me like 'wow'. Rigged them with a 1/32 jighead and the fun began. My new favorite bait.
Date published: 2014-05-09
Rated 2 out of 5 by 1moretry from To thin The length is ok but the width is narrow. May in up using a hook and split shot for weight. That is how you have to do crickets. But crickets are short!
Date published: 2017-09-01


text:
Is this your business? Claim it today and take control of your Business Credit Rating.
|Company Type
|Private Limited
|Company Status
|Company Dissolved
|Company Number
|Management consultancy activities other than financial management
QV TWO LIMITED was formed on the 7th November 2012 , and are based in Three Brindley Place, Birmingham. They are currently rated G and are considered to represent an above average risk score. Their current legal status is Company Dissolved. This information was last updated on the 4th September 2017.
There are 2 major shareholders listed for QV TWO LIMITED with Mark Mccarron and Beverley Marsh owning the most shares by value.


text:
Calling all movers and shakers. The team behind No Lights No Lycra, the dance in the dark movement that now spans over 65 countries, have just dropped their latest endeavour, and it's one we can sure get behind.
Dance Break is the new must-have phone app. It's the perfect excuse to nab three minutes away from your desk, bust out a few moves for no apparent reason or channel your inner Beyonce.
Once a day Dance Break will override the user's phone with a new dance track. At the end of the song, a map will show the location and number of others around the world who also danced.
Basically it's one big solo dance party, simultaneously happening around the world. The app taps into NLNL's no-judgement dance philosophy, which encourages you to drop everything and bust a move wherever you are.
Take a look at the preview below. Come November 23, we will be dancing once a day.


text:
This page may be out of date.
Save your draft
before refreshing this page.
Submit any pending changes before refreshing this page.
Hide this message
Ask New Question
Sign In
Cinema Paradiso
All about movies, film festivals, one line reviews and movie tidbits.
Best from Sundance - Day 8
Mahesh Waran
"The GateKeepers"
The rise of Israeli- Palestinian conflict post the six-day war in later 60's is carefully examined in 'The Gatekeepers', after achieving a feat in convincing the six former heads of 'Shin Bet', Israel's then secret internal security agency, for one-on-one interviews on policies...
194 views
Posted Jan 26, 2013
Best from Sundance - Day 7
Mahesh Waran
''We Steal Secrets: The Story of WikiLeaks'
Alex Gibney, the director takes us to the World of Wikileaks - delves deeply into the furtive story behind the accusations on Julian Assange ,the ladies and Bradley Manning - the American soldier who passed the classified docs to him .
34 views
Posted Jan 24, 2013
Best from Sundance - Day 6
Mahesh Waran
'Cutie and the Boxer'
40-year old marriage of an artistic Japanese couple and their journey in their chaotic yet strong creative painting world - interwoven in this documentary by Zachary Heinzerling.
31 views
Posted Jan 23, 2013


text:
Metal band with iridescent rhinestones on ribbon tie back or skinny elastic. Choose from the menu for sizing and choose elastic or ribbon tieback.
I suggest elastic for newborn's as it's difficult to tie and keep in place on a small baby.
Newborn with elastic is 13 inches, fits 0-6 months
6-M to teen with Elastic is 16 inches
Adult with elastic is 18 inches
Tieback is adjustable with ribbon to tie back, fits newborn to adult.
6-8 business days
I'll do my best to meet these shipping estimates, but can't guarantee them. Actual delivery time will depend on the shipping method you choose.
Buyers are responsible for any customs and import taxes that may apply. I'm not responsible for delays due to customs.
Request a cancellation within: 2 days of purchase
But please contact me if you have any problems with your order.
I will only use your shipping and billing address, and contact information


text:
October 5, 2012 BY John Kim
When thinking back to the OG colorways of the Air Max 1, all the spotlight goes to the Sport Red and Sport Blue. Let's not forget another original from 1987 – this White/Navy/Red; this colorway has never been re-issued, although Nike has come close with 2002's 'USA' and a few other new colorways. For 2013, Nike Sportswear will re-issue the OG with the aptly fitting VNTG treatment, which gives the midsole a slightly yellow appearance while the beat-up suede on the upper adds a few years while keeping them fresh. A full shot after the jump, so take a look and we'll keep you up to date with more Air Max 1 releases for 2013.
Photos: NT
Filed under: Air Max 1 Nike Air Max Upcoming Sneakers


text:
|Plutarch has been listed as a level-4 vital article in People. If you can improve it, please do. This article has been rated as C-Class.
|This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
- 1 Dates of birth and death and Travels to Rome
- 2 listing of Lives in chronological order
- 3 Other Plutarchs?
- 4 Lost works of Plutarch
- 5 Broken Link
- 6 Impossible
- 7 Plutarch's Influence
- 8 Quotations
- 9 Plutarch Scholars
- 10 Life of Plutarch
- 11 Translations and their Translators
- 12 Emphasis On?
- 13 Notes Section
- 14 Diaphram
- 15 Death date
- 16 Vegetarian
- 17 WikiProject class rating
- 18 Latin Translations
- 19 Plutarch=Unreliable
- 20 Revert to BC/AD date format
- 21 Term for this?
- 22 File:Plutarch delphi 1.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion
- 23 File:Plutarch delphi 1.jpg - question
- 24 List of examples where the mentioned bust is possitively identified as of Plutarch
- 25 Too Much in Lives Section?
- 26 Suggestion - Koine?
Dates of birth and death and Travels to Rome[edit]
According to the Teaching Company and the links at the bottom of the page he was born in 46. According to the Teaching Company he lived beyond 127. I do not know the proper way to say he lived beyond 127 so I wrote "beyond 127". But feel free to change it if it is "127+" or "127?" or whatever.
- According to Encyclopedia Britannica, he "died after 119", so I'm guessing this is one of those things that are full of scholarly dispute. --maru (talk) Contribs 03:06, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- Right. There's debate about his date of birth and as well his date of death. Instead of placing all the debate in the main parts of the article, it would be better to use the Notes section to discuss it, alongside the Timeline which will try to be as conservative as possible.-BiancaOfHell 19:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
How is it that the introduction to this article states unequivocally that Plutarch went to Rome at least twice, while the introduction to the translation by Dreyden says it was at least once, with no evidence to indicate otherwise?
- Right. Some say he spent 40 years in Rome, which is largely refuted. Some say he went to Rome once, others say he went to Rome twice. Some say he went to Alexandria after his studies, others say no. There is a lot of debate about Plutarch's biography. I'm suggesting going with what is conservative and what Scholars think is largely correct, and placing all the interesting arguments for and against in the Notes section, alongside the Timeline to it's right.-BiancaOfHell 19:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
listing of Lives in chronological order[edit]
The following was posted in the article by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs) and moved here by —Charles P. (Mirv) @ 15:39, 22 November 2005 (UTC).
It would be good if someone could include a listing of the Lives in chronological order, for this resource is not easily found elsewhere on the web.
- Not easily found? Has it been found? By chronological order you mean when Plutarch wrote/finished them, or chronological order of the Greek lives and then the Roman lives? A listing of the chronological order of some of the Roman lives and the Roman Emperors and Plutarch and his contemporaries lifetimes exists at http://www.constitution.org/rom/plutarch/intro.htm.-BiancaOfHell 19:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Listing the lives in the chronological order by the life of the subject would help students read the biographies of individuals who were alive during the period that the student was studying....
Other Plutarchs?[edit]
I was going through Britannica's website, improving some of our math bios, when I came upon what appears to be either an error, or major omission. Specifically, I was working on Proclus. EB's article says "At Athens he studied under the Greek philosophers Plutarch and Syrianus, whom he followed as diadochos (Greek: "successor"), or head of the Academy founded by Plato c. 387 BC."
- This is all well and good, except for the minor problem that Proclus was born 410 CE, and Plutarch worked in the 100s and such CE. So, either two entire biographies (in both Wikipedia and Britannica) are completely screwed up by centuries, or there is some other Plutarch who was important enough to either be almost or actually the head of Plato's Academy (I think he was in fact the head preceding Proclus, as the EB quote mentions him and Syrianus- our article on Syrianus has him succeeding Proclus, implying that Plutarch was the preceding head). Thought you guys should know, if for disambiguations reasons alone. --maru (talk) Contribs 03
- 16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- http://www.goddess-athena.org/Encyclopedia/Friends/Proclus/ says
- "Then Syrianus presented Proclus to Plutarch, sun of Nestorius, his predecessor, who due to age was forced into semi-retirement. But Plutarch accepted Proclus as auditor of his courses."
- If it helps any. --maru (talk) Contribs 03:50, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- http://www.goddess-athena.org/Encyclopedia/Friends/Proclus/ says
- It is a little known fact that many Greek names famous in the West today were very common in ancient Greee & hence we should not be suprised at this turn of events... There are several Thucydides' for example, several Socrates' and so on. Plutarch (the author of the Lives) could not have followed Plato as head of the academy since he wrote about evens occuring centuries after this succession is said to have occured. For example, Plutarch writes about Caesar's murder (47 BCE or thereabouts) so he couldn't possibly have been around in 387 BCE... --Mikkerpikker 04:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- It still bothers the hell out of me- it means that if I link to Plutarch like I want to, I am misleading the reader, who almost certainly does not know that about common Greek names (for instance, Proclus was taught math by a "Heron". I already know that this is a different Heron from the Heron, and so I did not link it, but what about a user hip to the ways of Wikipedia, who decides to manually rectify this mistake by editting or going directly to the Heron article? Now I have to insert a nasty parenthetical note noting that this is not the Heron you were expecting.); besides, I think being the head of the Academy is noteworthy enough there should at least be a bare mention. Not to mention a number of other sources have screwed up this side note- the Britannica article misleads one by omission, and http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Proclus.html, the MacTutor article, normally a reliable source, sends you to the wrong/famous Plutarch when you click on the link! --maru (talk) Contribs 04:15, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- A way to get around the "nasty parenthetical note" you are referring to is to use the Greek convention, i.e. to name people by their cities. So Plutarch (as in the guy who wrote the Lives) would be "Plutarch of Chaeronea" and the Plutarch who succeeded Plato would be "Plutarch of Athens" (or whatever). Mikkerpikker 23:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Lost works of Plutarch[edit]
Has there been any discussion, or any published work, on his lost works? Haiduc 12:59, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
- According to the 1971 Encyclopedia Britannica the first pair of Parallel Lives, Epaminondas and Scipio, are lost. Are there others?
- BiancaOfHell 15:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think it's essential that a proof of these lost works is done. Where does it say that they did in fact exist at some point? Apparently there is a listing but where can I go to see this listing?-BiancaOfHell 13:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- I don't have any specific information about this, but presumably other writers whose work has been preserved would have referred to reading such and such by Plutarch. I haven't read all of the the Parellel Lives, so I don't know if there is any reference within them or not. I'm sorry that I couldn't be of more help. --Kyoko 13:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think it's essential that a proof of these lost works is done. Where does it say that they did in fact exist at some point? Apparently there is a listing but where can I go to see this listing?-BiancaOfHell 13:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
"Even the lives of such important figures as Augustus..." It looks like Perseus has the North translation of the Life of Octavius Agustus Caesar. Is it a pseudopigraphic work, or is this statement particially incorrect and in need of modification?
- In the Parallel Lives article it says "The Perseus project also contains a biography of Caesar Augustus appearing in the North translation, but not coming from Plutarch's Parallel Lives" Here's the link to the text: [[1]] So I don't know where this biography came from and why it has such a low key presence amongst his works. Is there still in fact a Life of Augustus from the Lives to be found? -BiancaOfHell 17:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Broken Link[edit]
Broken link, External links - biography of Plutarch
this may relate to Maru's question but while looking for a quote on the spartans i found "Come back with your shield,-- or on it", as sort of rejoicing phrase for the women of Sparta as the men left to fight, it said that Plutarch reported this, but how is this possible, the hieght of military Sparta was three centuries before the birthdate of Plutarch, so how is this possible? Thrawst 06:18, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- Google and the Straight Dope are your friends: http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mspartanmoms.html. --maru (talk) contribs 07:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Plutarch's Influence[edit]
The first couple of sentences in this section are incoherent, the apparent victim of editing. They do not make sense. What is being said about Shakespeare, for example? If it intends to convey that Shakespeare based some of his plays on the Parallel Lives, that is not contained in this sentence.
- I've heard that he based specifically Julius Caesar and Antony and Cleopatra on Plutarch's lives of Caesar, Brutus, and Antony. I'm not sure where I read it, though - possibly in Michael Grant's The Ancient Historians. I'll check when I'm at home and have access to said book. --Jim Henry 17:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Here is a quote from Aubrey Stewart's introduction to his 1894 translation of Plutarch's Lives:
- Amyot's spirited French version was no less spiritedly translated by Sir Thomas North. His translation was much read and admired in its day; a modern reviewer even goes so far as to say that it is "still beyond comparison the best version of Parallel Lives which the English tongue affords." Be this as it may, the world will ever be deeply indebted to North's translation, for it is to Shakespeare's perusal of that work that we owe 'Coriolanus,' 'Antony and Cleopatra,' and 'Julius Caesar.'
- --Jim Henry 16:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe the two biggest authors influenced by Plutarch are Shakespeare for his plays, and Montaigne for the development of the Essay. The Influences section should probably reflect this. BiancaOfHell 16:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Plutarch's Influence on Dante?[edit]
I've heard that Dante was influenced but how? is it significant? BiancaOfHell 08:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
These quotes should be boxed up (like in the Demosthenes article) and placed appropriately in sections that will discuss the works of Lives and Moralia, ESPECIALLY if they come from there. Plutarch had a lot of influence on moralists, etc... and some of these quotations are examples of his wisdom that influenced those that came after. BiancaOfHell 12:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Plutarch Scholars[edit]
What books, or editions with introductions, forewords, etc.. that talk about Plutarch's life and work are out there? BiancaOfHell 15:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the philosophy of Plutarch of Chaeroneia one might look at The Middle Platonists: 80 B.C. to A.D. 220 by John Dillon (Ithaca, 1996, Revised Edition). It has a chapter "Plutarch of Chaeroneia and the Origins of Second-Century Platonism" (pp 184 - 230) that concentrates on Plutarch's philosophy. In a note to this chapter (p. 185) Dillon recommends Plutarch by D. A. Russell (London, 1972) for "the whole man, essayist, historian, teacher, conversationalist, statesman." I am unfamiliar with Russell so I cannot comment on this books worth. But Dillon is a well-respected academic who is recognized as an expert in the history of Platonism. Pomonomo2003 01:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'm going to put it in References. Is that allowed when the book hasn't even been glimpsed? Better for a bibliography perhaps? Either way, Amazon has a new Edition of said book (Plutarch by D.A. Russell) and it looks like it has a goldmine of information. Going to get it. Thanks. -BiancaOfHell 19:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- R.H. Barrow, Plutarch and His Times (1967, reprinted 1979)
- C.J. Gianakaris, Plutarch (1970), are good general introductions that list further reading.
- C.P. Jones, Plutarch and Rome (1971), begins with a useful biography and continues by tracing his career under various Roman emperors.
- D.A. Russell, Plutarch (1973), provides a literary evaluation.
- According to Additional Reading at Britannica Online -BiancaOfHell 22:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
For too much information see Bibliography on Plutarch at <http://www.utexas.edu/depts/classics/chaironeia/bibliography.html> -BiancaOfHell 17:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- That's an extremely useful bibliography, but I don't think it's been updated since the late '90s. --Akhilleus (talk) 18:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Life of Plutarch[edit]
A number of authors have written a 'Life of Plutarch's it seems. Here's the beginnings of a list. Please add to it if you come across more.
- North's 'Life of Plutarch'
- Dryden's 'Life of Plutarch'
- Arthur Hugh Clough, writes introductions to Dryden's translations of Lives
- Rualdus wrote a Life of Plutarchus on the Paris folios that is a basis for much knowledge on Plutarch's life.
-BiancaOfHell 11:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Translations and their Translators[edit]
- In english what are the major and respected translations?
- Did Dryden translate all of Plutarch's works? He translated Lives from the Greek original
- Did Thomas North?
North, Sir Thomas, 1535?–1601?, English translator. He is famous for his translation of Plutarch, entitled Lives of the Noble Grecians and Romans (1579), which he made from the French of Jacques Amyot. This work, ornate but vivid, was a source for many of Shakespeare's plays, among them Antony and Cleopatra and Julius Caesar, and was a major influence in the development of Elizabethan prose.
- North versus Dryden versus?
North translated from Amyot's French translation, whilst or while Dryden translated from the Greek original
- What of Amyot's French translation?
-BiancaOfHell 13:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- And Dryden did not translate much of Plutarch at all. The Dryden edition is just that: he was the general editor, lending his name for the saleability of the thing, but a large team did the actual work, each individual taking one of the Lives. Bill 18:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Would you mind citing your source, and incorporating that knowledge into the Translations section? I'm not sure if the way I've done it, separating into French and English translations sections, is the best way, since Amyot's was the start of a translation that went through many languages. The whole thing is a lot more complicated than any section breakdown could possibly convey.-BiancaOfHell 18:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Emphasis On?[edit]
What to cover about Plutarch is a question on my mind. His biographical information is sketchy. A lot of questions on the size of his family, his travels to Rome, his career. The importance of his works and criticisms of it seems to be more interesting. Anyone have any good advice? -BiancaOfHell 15:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Notes Section[edit]
Stuff whose deduction must be explained:
- birth date
- death date
- travels to Rome and Alexandria, when and for how long?
-BiancaOfHell 00:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
The life timeline at the end lists "Invented diaphram" but there is no reference made to this in the page - this needs to be addressed by at least a short section. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 20:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC).
- It was just a vandal doing his/her thing.-BillDeanCarter 19:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Death date[edit]
This date is rather vague, but the sentence should be placed perhaps someplace other than "Work as magistrate and ambassador", right? Is there any info pertaining to his later life? Sedonaarizona 18:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I see that Plutarch is categorized as a vegetarian, but why is no mention of this made in the article? Given that vegetarians were exceedingly rare then, and the fact that he wrote essays extolling the virtues of vegetarianism, it seems relevant to me.--Hraefen Talk 00:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Certainly. Which articles of his were about vegetarianism or mentioned his vegetarianism? Are there any historians you know who have mentioned the rarity of vegetarianism back in those days? I hope the categorization wasn't a form of vandalism long overlooked.-BillDeanCarter 00:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- The book Heretic's Feast by Colin Spencer (pp. 98-101) says that Plutarch's Moralia contains the Essay on Flesh-Eating and Rules for the Preservation of Health, both of which discuss vegetarianism. That same book also addresses the rarity of vegetarianism in those times and discusses the philosophers that embraced it.--Hraefen Talk 05:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject class rating[edit]
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 04:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Latin Translations[edit]
The article says, "there is one translation of Parallel Lives into Latin" which it describes as being made in the 18th century, pour le dauphin. Meanwhile, above in the article is a photograph of a 15th century Latin edition of the same. Clearly either there was more than one Latin translation, or it was not made pour le dauphin. Rwflammang (talk) 13:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
In Pyrrhus article, a user has added the pov sign with the arguement that Pyrrhus' sources came from the unreliable author Ploutarch... This is off course an anti-encyclopedic action. It is really sad that famous authors like Plutarch are so badly criticized and the worst, without a single argument against him! (he said that he was Greek...so unreliable)Alexikoua (talk) 20:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
well i have some arguments against him. some of his stories cannot be checked in any other source. second, in his paralells lives he pretends to be neutral but the romans always look better than the greeks in comparsion. If you care about my opinion, he was in the roman´s pockets 188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:25, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Revert to BC/AD date format[edit]
There has been a violation of WP:ERA in that no discussion or concensus was done on this article's talk page after the 29th October 2010 before the date format was changed from BC/AD to BCE/CE. Therefore I propose that the date format be reverted back to that of 29/10/10 should no one object and voice reasons why this should not occur. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:53, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Term for this?[edit]
Hi, newbie here. Not sure if this is the right way to discuss this sort of thing, but:
In the section "Parallel Lives": "...went to tremendous effort (often leading to tenuous comparisons) to draw parallels between physical appearance and moral character"
This strikes me as being sort of Chaucerian, (this certainly isn't the right term, as Plutarch predated Chaucer by many years). Does anyone know if there's a term for this kind of literary attribution of moral/personality characteristics to physical ones? (I'm thinking something along the lines of Phrenology). I feel like there is a term, but it escapes me at the moment... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodaen (talk • contribs) 06:31, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Oh ok, nevermind - I think I found what I was looking for in the related links of Phrenology: Physiognomy. Thanks anyways. Rodaen (talk) 06:49, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
File:Plutarch delphi 1.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion[edit]
|An image used in this article, File:Plutarch delphi 1.jpg, has been nominated for speedy deletion at Wikimedia Commons for the following reason: Copyright violations
Don't panic; deletions can take a little longer at Commons than they do on Wikipedia. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion (although please review Commons guidelines before doing so). The best way to contest this form of deletion is by posting on the image talk page.
To take part in any discussion, or to review a more detailed deletion rationale please visit the relevant image page (File:Plutarch delphi 1.jpg)
This is Bot placed notification, another user has nominated/tagged the image --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 08:54, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
File:Plutarch delphi 1.jpg - question[edit]
Anyone know if there is any reason to suppose that this image of the bust added by User:Odysses on 22 February 2011, is in anyway reliable? It's confidently described as "Statue of Plutarch, at the Museum of Delphi," but the only evidence Odysses seems to have put forward for this identification is the fact that a similar picture is used as thumbnail [2] at livius.org. Pasicles (talk) 20:58, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know, but I'm mystified that the bot tells us of speedy-deletion nomination, when the only notice given at Commons is of a question about the factual accuracy of the description. I think you are missing that Odysses says that s/he took the picture (is the copyright holder). I am willing to suppose that if Odysses visited the museum at Delphi, took the picture, and uploaded it with that description, then that is how it is described at the museum. Wareh (talk) 19:44, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- The speedy-deletion nomination refers to an earlier version of the file (apparently the one on livius.org). Odysses replaced it with a self made photo on 1 March. This made me wonder if the sequence of events was (1) Odysses uploads thumbnail from livius.org where its used to illustrate an article on Plutarch, and added description to that effect, (2) thumbnail was nominated for speedy-deletion for copy-vio, (3) Odysses pops into local museum in Delphi (or looks in his holiday snaps) and takes picture of same bust and uploads it regardless of how it might actually be described at the Delphi Archaeological Museum. The thing that makes me suspicious is that precisely the same sequence of events occurred with this picture of "Heraclitus", which I'm pretty darned certain has never been formally identified as Heraclitus or anyone else.
- I would certainly be surprised if this bust has been securely identified as Plutarch - it just looks like an anonymous bust like so many other anonymous busts which survive from the ancient world. A search for "bust of plutarch" or "statue of plutarch" on Google Book Search gives me nothing other than Greek/Roman references to such statues having once existed. Pasicles (talk) 17:32, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well for now I've left a note at User talk:Odysses. Maybe that will give us an answer to these speculations. Wareh (talk) 18:25, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- I have now found similar pictures of this bust on a number of webpages: [3], [4], [5], and its pretty clear that it's identified merely as a bust of an "unknown philosopher". At best, all I can find is that Plutarch is merely a possible suggested identification [6]. Pasicles (talk) 19:48, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Seems clear enough. I think this is a reasonable basis on which to rewrite the image description at Commons and to get rid of any inappropriate usages of the image. Wareh (talk) 19:53, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, I've put in a rename request over at Commons for this image to be moved from File:Plutarch delphi 1.jpg to File:Head of a philosopher - Archaeological Museum of Delphi.jpg. Pasicles (talk) 19:42, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- Seems clear enough. I think this is a reasonable basis on which to rewrite the image description at Commons and to get rid of any inappropriate usages of the image. Wareh (talk) 19:53, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- I have now found similar pictures of this bust on a number of webpages: [3], [4], [5], and its pretty clear that it's identified merely as a bust of an "unknown philosopher". At best, all I can find is that Plutarch is merely a possible suggested identification [6]. Pasicles (talk) 19:48, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
The Delphi Archaeological Museum that I've visited in the past and I've taken several pictures, describes this bust as "a portrait of Plutarch, Plotinus or a philosopher", ranking Plutarch as the most probable candidate. The livius.org website is possitive about this bust been of Plutarch. I've also seen this bust as a cover page on a couple of books about Plutarch. Although I am not 100% certain that this bust is of Plutarch, yet Plutarch is the most probable candidate. Do we have another statue of Plutarch at any other museum? Odysses (₪) 13:38, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- FYI, this is a modern copy of the bust of Plutarch at present day Chaeronea. And more uses throuht the internet: [7], [8], [9]. Odysses (₪) 16:07, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- Okay that's fine -- but in my mind this seems to prove that this is a "bust of an unknown philosopher". Websites such as livius.org often use a "best guess" anonymous bust to illustrate an ancient figure when there is isn't a definitive bust available. It is interesting that there is a modern copy at Chaeronea, which is being used as a "portrait" of Plutarch. Clearly the fact that Plutarch has been suggested as one possible candidate for this bust has lead it to becoming an unofficial portrait. At best, if you want this picture to go back onto this page, then the caption should say something like "Bust of a philosopher - tentatively identified as Plutarch". But before you do that, could you please upload a high resolution version of this bust from your picture collection -- just the raw image taken by your camera will be fine -- and state clearly when you took the photograph and where. Thanks. Pasicles (talk) 13:25, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- On your comments above you say "in my mind this seems to prove that this is a "bust of an unknown philosopher. Websites such as livius.org often use a "best guess" anonymous bust to illustrate an ancient figure". OK, this is your opinion. In my mind livius.org is doing a fine job and they probably have more solid evidence regarding the identity of a portrait before displaying it in their essays. And do you suppose that the makers of the bust of Plutarch at present day Chaeronea, which you have removed from the description of the file would bother to produce a copy of Plutarch's bust without making sure that this is Plutarch indeed?
- Do you seriously propose that greekhotel.com which you provide in the file description is a more reliable source regarding ancient philosopher portraits than livius.org?
- Please do not remove sources and links such as the bust of Plutarch at Chaeronea, that are against your opinion, unless you properly justify your action. -Odysses (₪) 17:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
List of examples where the mentioned bust is possitively identified as of Plutarch[edit]
- The University of Adelaide
- The Complete Collection of Plutarch's Parallel Lives Comparisons (Illustrated) by Charles River Editors (Editor), John Dryden (Translator)
- Delphi Classics - Plutarch
- United Architects – Essays
- mmdtkw.org
- timeone.ca
- akorra.com
In other languages:
- egypte.dominiquecardinal.fr/
- histoire-pour-tous.fr
- hellinon.net
- viotikoskosmos.wikidot.com
- filosofico.net
The above examples by Universities, such as The University of Adelaide, Institutions, authors etc. are traditionally considered more reliable than the greekhotel.com which is provided in the file description to confuse the identiτy of this bust. If the above Universities, Institutions, authors etc. positively identify this bust as of Plutarch, then Wikipedia should also identify it as such -Odysses (₪) 18:32, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Odysses. I'm sorry you are upset about this. It was not my intention to make you angry. Can I first make it clear that I did not remove the bust of Plutarch at present day Chaeronea link from the image file description -- I am quite happy for it to be part of the file description, which is why I left it in there, because I agree that it is interesting that there is a modern sculpture that uses this bust as a template. I do not dispute that this might be a bust of Plutarch -- all I am disputing is that this bust which has been dug out of the ground at some point is definitely Plutarch -- if there isn't an inscription and if there isn't a definitive identifying feature, then its impossible to know. As I said before, websites often use a "best guess" anonymous bust to illustrate an ancient figure when there is isn't a definitive bust available. This is not at all unusual -- other ancient busts of philosophers such as this one of Plotinus are similarly uncertain.
- You are quite right to question whether the greekhotel.com site is a reliable source. The reason why I used it is because they are actually quoting the caption used at the Museum of Delphi. Sorry to disappoint you, but if you look at this this picture of the bust on Flickr and zoom in then you will see the writing that says "Marble bust from a herm. It has tentatively been recognized as a portrait of Plutarch, Plotinus or a philosopher of the Neoplatonic school, but not enough clues are available for a definitive identification of the portrayed man" -- this is how the Museum of Delphi describes the bust. As I said before, I don't mind if this bust appears on the page, but it should say that the identification is uncertain -- I am very willing to compromise on this.
- Hi Pasicles and thanks for your comments. I'm glad that we are having a nice and constructive discussion in this talk page on the identity of this bust. I'm sorry if I have given you the impression of been upset, my intension was to support my edit and bring some useful reference and info from reliable sources. I just realized that you moved the bust of Plutarch at present day Chaeronea to the bottom of the description. My sincere apologies.
- Since my record of my old photos was of low quality and low resolution, I decided to make a visit again at the Museum of Delphi, (and at Chaeronea) as it's only a short trip, to get some new digital photos and info. I even spoke to the museum attendants and one of them was happy to talk about their "beloved bust of Plutarch" for which they are proud to own the one and only original item. Of course, they mentioned that, just to be "on the safe side" they'd leave a small possibility for the bust to belong to another Neoplatonic philosopher, just as per description of the Delphi museum plate, which you have mentioned above.
- Thanks for your example of the bust of Plotinus. I see that although Plotinus' bust, as you said is "uncertain", it is shown on the Wikipedia article of Plotinus.
- It would be nice to do the same by showing Plutarch's bust in Wikipedia and also mention the uncertainty that it might belong to another philosopher.
- I have now uploaded a high-resolution photo of this bust taken at the Museum of Delphi and I hope it's better, more useful than the previous one and without any copyright issues. Odysses (₪) 21:02, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
To make this issue more complicated, the Museum of Delphi displays this bust of Plutarch/philosopher (left) next to a headless herm (right). The description given for the herm is: Headless herm of a votive with the bust of Plutarch, set up by the people of Delphi around 125 AD. What the museum doesn't make clear is whether the head on the left once stood on the herm on the right, since they appear to be made approximately the same period of time, of the same type of marble and they were both uncovered near the southeast corner of the temple of Apollo at Delphi. Odysses (₪) 07:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Too Much in Lives Section?[edit]
As I read the section of the article on Plutarch's Lives, i noted that there was more information there than on the actual lives page. Does anyone else agree on moving some of it over to the lives page, or at least copying it?--Accurateedits (talk) 23:33, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
I agree, moreover his important "Isis and Osiris" is quickly mentioned, while it should have its own section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Eldritch (talk • contribs) 19:35, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Suggestion - Koine?[edit]
The intro talks about koine Greek and provides a citation that does not back that up. Delete? - Eponymous-Archon (talk) 21:40, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
- Wikipedia level-4 vital articles in People
- Wikipedia C-Class vital articles in People
- Wikipedia C-Class level-4 vital articles
- C-Class Classical Greece and Rome articles
- High-importance Classical Greece and Rome articles
- C-Class biography articles
- C-Class biography (arts and entertainment) articles
- Unknown-importance biography (arts and entertainment) articles
- Arts and entertainment work group articles
- WikiProject Biography articles
- C-Class Greek articles
- High-importance Greek articles
- WikiProject Greece general articles
- C-Class Philosophy articles
- Mid-importance Philosophy articles
- C-Class philosopher articles
- Mid-importance philosopher articles
- Philosophers task force articles
- C-Class Ancient philosophy articles
- Mid-importance Ancient philosophy articles
- Ancient philosophy task force articles
- C-Class Religion articles
- Top-importance Religion articles
- WikiProject Religion articles


text: I am ready to buy a digital food scale and I'm interested to hear which ones you have and what's good about them, etc. I'm tired of my inconsistent anolog one. Do most of the digitals have a "calibrate to zero" setting so when I put a bowl on it, it will start from zero?