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Bloemfontein - Several African heads of state are apparently deeply upset after they were left without food and bedding at the accommodation provided to them for the ANC's centenary celebrations. The heads of state allegedly had to buy their own bedding, food, pots, pans, glasses and bottled water because the ANC had ordered the owners of the houses it rented at Woodlands Hills Wildlife Estate to remove all their possessions. There was apparently only liquor provided.The hotel group contracted to equip the houses, which had been rented for up to R50 000 per day, allegedly did not do its job properly.Had to buy necessitiesSecurity guards for President Yuweri Museveni from Uganda had to buy him some grilled chicken from Nando's."Ugandan officials had to leave Woodlands to go and buy duvets, food and other necessities for the president as there was a bed without linen," said Mampho Mmelaedi, who looked after the house Museveni was staying in.At least 15 women who were hired as housekeepers, waitresses and cleaners in the estate, came forward to speak about their dissatisfaction over how foreign dignitaries were treated.Presidents who were treated badly included Bingu wa Mutharika from Malawi, Obiang Mbasogo from Equatorial Guinea, Hifikepunye Pohamba from Namibia and Paul Kagame from Rwanda.Valentine Rantsoareng, joint owner of the Rantsoareng hotel group, confirmed they were contracted for the job by the department of international relations.He strongly denied allegations about the accommodation, adding that some of the heads of state had deviated from the menu and "rather asked for chicken".He said the staff members were hired by Design HR."I think people who make these allegations are somewhat dissatisfied because they haven't been paid yet, but I have only now received the receipt for it," he said.EmbarrassedThe women had another version of events, however."Namibian officials went to buy food, pots, plates and glasses to cook for the president [Pohamba]. I could see he was angry and disappointed," said Motladi Metsing.Kenalemang Pula said the Nigerian delegation arrived on Sunday morning and had packed their bags by lunchtime.President Thomas Boni of Benin apparently immediately "stormed out" of Woodlands Hills.One of the women said: "They kept asking us if we worked for the ANC or for the South African government. Understandably, they kept shouting at us. We were embarrassed to be there."When reached for comment, Museveni's press secretary Tamale Mirundi, who was not part of the delegation, was trying to confirm the claims. However, Mirundi emphasised that if the reports were true the Ugandans would not have complained, because they saw themselves as fellow Africans, not visitors needing special treatment.No official complaintsFree State ANC spokesperson William Bulwane said the party had been alerted to the claims. "Although we have not yet received any official complaints from heads of state we are going to be following this up with the estate."ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said he was unaware of any complaints, but said there had been "very, very serious problems" with accreditation for international dignitaries, spiritual leaders and the media.President Jacob Zuma would apologise in person to heads of state and the department of international relations and co-operation would apologise to other international dignitaries, he said."We are not aware of any instances where heads of state had to go out of their way to secure linen or pots for private use. This was an event arranged by government and government made sure that all was in order."However, there were some instances where private houses who opened their doors to guests of the ANC did not adhere to the contract signed with the ANC. In these instances we dealt with these matters."Everything would have come past me so I would have known if any complaints have been made."International relations spokesperson Clayson Monyela was also in the dark.- Additional reporting by The Witness.
What did you expect from the ANC? Totally unprofessional to say the least! Banana republic at it's best!
Another case of poor service delivery, I'm suprised the accomodation didn't come with open toilets.
So where and on what was the supposed R100 mil spent??? Someones pockets got lined again. Well done ANC, you never fail to dissapoint.
Can't wait to see the Nandos add thats going to emerge from this!
Bet the anc will say it was a 100%, no problems
Nandos. I can't wait for you to entertain us with this one!!! "What sheet is this, forkn spoon" :)
Come on guys this is rubbish , the President said the event was a runaway success.
Or was that just propaganda.
Damn the man.
Supplies.............no chinese take-away? Its one thing to p*ss the voters off, but when you poo on the doorstep of your so-called allies, and show your true colour, who you gonna call? Thes is in line with the ANC's thinking of we are better than the rest.....the so called chosen....Could the dignitaries not taste the food through the lips of the elite?
How much money was stolen,needs a full finacial investigation
The gravy is only for us. We shall not share the gravy.......not even with fellow africans ........that is why we are so xenophobic.......Why is everyone so surprised?
No surprises here. The ANC is a international embarrassment wherever they go and this is just par for the course. What a bunch of self-serving, pocket lining cretins we have chosen to be a representation of our nation!
Ag shame. These guys really had a hard time. Wonder if they know what it's like in a shack.
Who needs food if you have booze?
Apartheid's fault? Just askin!
Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery !!
O shame my heart bleeds for them - thats the only reason that they go to these things is for the free booze and food
Amazing how proud the ANC is on this score - Zapiro's latest cartoon says it all! :)
Lol ! They can`t even look after the so called ``leadership`` , now what about the masses that vote for them ?? Eish !! You realy have to dumb to vote ANC !
Just watch the poor cleaner will get fired for this...
Once again...excuses excuses excuses. Not one ANC lackey wants to be accountable or take ownership.
Well, lets not cry for Obiang Mbasogo ( from Equatorial Guinea )
He and his lovely family have stolen billions, so they could easily buy the whole of Nando's, and it would just be like any other day for these thugs!!!!
Jesus loves you,
Your mother loves you,
Your father loves,
Repent, Manpara, repent,
Repent, Ignorant, repent,
Repent, Negligent, repent,
Repent, Liar, repent,
Repent, Thief, repent,
Repent, Baby Killer, repent,
Repent, Genocider, repent!
Okai, stop the bus, how can you say all that?
Lets have a look:
Malema is Ignorant that the Failed Communist Countries like the USSR, China, Vietnam, Cuba, etc, employed Central Control Economies ( CCE ), with full and total nationalization.
Negligent - as the head of an organization, it is his duty to be fully informed of the economic history of total disasters of CCE. He does not know that Gorbachov announced reforms away from nationalization – in the early 1980's!
He is a Liar, because these are not his ideas, these ideas have been around for over 100 years.
Thief, he has stolen the PEOPLES money – that is how bribery and corruption works.
Baby Killer, as a member of the ANC – Abortion Murder Genocide, is guilty of the Genocide of 800 000 black babies in government hospitals!
Genocider, as a member of the ANC – Abortion Murder Genocide, is guilty of the Genocide of 5 Million Aids sufferers which were refused medication.
Repent, Manpara, Repent!
I have now got a box of Benzene for the Virodene Awards of 2011: The nominees are:
Thabo Mbeki
Doctor ( of medicine ) Nkosazana Zuma
( the 2 were the big pushers of the attempt to Genocide 5 million aids sufferers with Benzene labelled as Virodene - which is now their prize! )
Pres Zuma
Julius Malema
( acomplices )
David Miliband
( cover up )
Barack Obama
Hilary Silly Hilly Billy Clinton
Bill the Clown Clinton
( Financiers of Abortions )
Jullian Assenge
( the Genocide of Millions of SA People is not important to him - a few Iraqui casualties are : arab bloob is more important than african blood )
Ariel Adorfmann
( the mentally challenged does not understand that if Mandela was aquitted in his trial of treason because he does not owe allegiance, neither does SA owe benefits to him and his people )
Fidel Castro and Raul Castro
( for the Genocide of the Cuban and African People, particularly 1 500 000 Ethiopians and 500 000 Angolans )
And the Manpara Virodene Award goes to...
Julius Malema!
For doing his utmost to reveal the truth about the ANC!
Ettienne, Check JuJu's bank account for any recent deposits from cANCer or Showerhead.
how is responable for saying these thing that our brother are upset? the media is selling again
At least President Yuweri Museveni was not alone. Poor Mugabe had to share his Nandos with dead Dictators...
And a lot of the owners have still not been paid.... pretty standard from 3rd world government running a first world infrastructure!
Let`s respect our government and stop hurling insults all over the show,we do not really have the facts as to what really happened in Mangaung.Aluta continua!!!
@Peace - respect needs to be earned, not forced upon
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (recuring) on my back
Make room George... hahahaha
Hay bru mind my feet they cant stop bouncing an all
@Peace - Don't you feel embarrassed about this? Let's say you go overseas and they ask you where you from. As soon as you say SA, how would you feel if some comments: "Oh, so you're from the country that doesn't take care of other heads of state."
Then what happened to the 400 mil ?
Someone's back pocket is thickly line.
Damn the cANCer ridden government.
you may all laugh,but im not embarassed by what happened in mangaung,i would be embarrassed to say im south african if our struggle heroes had failed to exterminate apartheid.Aluta Continua!
Peace, you're not embarresed because you're an idiot. Stop drinking the Cool-aid.
@Peace - The struggle is done and Apartheid has been defeated. The problem is that currently, the leaders of ANC are like someone who has won the lotto. How many people that has won the lotto has ended up worse off than before they won it?
@Peace..... apartheid has been abolished get over it, but you have a typical African mindset of living on other's achievements and milking it till the end! Our government (and considering youre opinions probably you too) should get off their lazy asses and earn respect for delivering to the people who put them there!!!
By accommodating this unruly bunch, they deserve what they get!
call me idiot,lunatic and other derogatory names,if you are not patriotic to the government that has fought so hard for human rights and equal opportunities for all you don`t belong in South Africa,perhaps you should contemplate immigrating to Australia.
ANC will rule until kingom comes!
@ Peace
you must be another ANC zombie, go open your history book if you can read and look what really brought down apartheit, it was a combonation of SANCTIONS and a REFERENDUM FROM WHITE south africans, your ANC were running around in central and northern Africa playing soldiers, so why the hell should we respect them? they slipped with their a*ses in the butter now they are helping themselves to the state coffers wake up dead brain
@ Peace
Patriotism: 'love for or devotion to one's country' involving:
1) Special affection for one's own country
2) A sense of personal identification with the country
3) Special concern for the well-being of the country
4) Willingness to sacrifice to promote the country's good
ref: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/patriotism/
All of those apply to me but I think that the ANC are a bunch of thieving hooligans. So myself and seemingly most of the rest of this forum consider it our patriotic duty to call the government to task for ruining the reputation of our beloved country. And we will continue to ridicule and deride the ANC until they are either out of power or do the job the were elected to do for a change.
The article reads = 'This was an event arranged by government and government made sure that all was in order.' .....
This was not a Government function , this was a Political Party Function , WHY DID THE GOVERNMENT pay for this ????? Typical tyranny / One Party State / Dictatorship.
Good point afrodukk.
@afroduckk That's exactly what I picked up from this article, suddenly this is a government function, so it IS our taxes that they are using...disgusting
Another ANC PR victory. Just when you think they can't damage our country's reputation further, they surprise us.
I bet that's why Mugabe didn't come to the celebrations, since his a homophobe he doesnt want to be screwed over by ANC
@Margie. It would make more sense if they just stopped voting for the ANC. At present, it's violent tantrums on Monday, vote ANC on Tuesday, violent tantrums on Wednesday, vote ANC on Thursday, and so on. Surely at some stage they have to realize that continually banging your head on the wall gives you a continuous headache?
@Raath they do not surprise me anymore.
@Eric most citizens do not vote ANC. Compared to the total of eligible and registered voters, the ANC gets at most a third of the votes.
Eric: an insight into why "the masses" still vote ANC - http://6000.co.za/political-soundbites/
@ RPhiri, particularly if he was quaffing things that will make him 'better' such as South African rhino horn!
lol Ann!!!
RPhiri, maybe that was Zimgabe's new years resolution, " I've been screwed by everyone, I'm not going to let Showerhead screw me publicly"
LOL what a joke - but as per usual alcohol waqs provided
....Nando's is always the go to take out for me, when catering is lacking whether be it at home, or at an function.
Imagine The next Nando's advert. Heads of state queued for the chicken of choice. With an ANC banner with slogan proudly proclaiming 'let them eat chicken'
@Xenswim1: Priceless!!! LOL!!!!
Where is my KFC as promised!!!!! hahahhaha
If they ran out of KFC they can start with Julius another chicken
Thanks Sean!
A bunch of tin-pot dictators having to pay their own way for once! I love it!
There is no "We" in ANC.
Brilliant! Thanks for the chuckle :)
Just proves that the thieves of africa cannot even trust each other, but we really knew this, thats why uncle bob didnt come to the bash he knew he would have to put his hand in his filthy pocket, i love the saying that there is never a free meal, the joke is on the anc and all the nasty losers who attended this mess.
Wee, they were pissed off
lol @ RPhiri, you are a witty guy :-)
Thanks Wesley!
Seriously, how low can they go?
So low that they can parachute out of a snakes backside, now that is really low, dont you thing??????
It's suprising how they have been going for so long without a brain. Or were they running on manure
You havent seen LOW yet
What's been hidden from the public eye ?
This is why we need transparency , the cANCer says its a runaway success but after the party , non-payment is still an issue ?
Who got the 400 mil ?
Just like everything the anc gets the dirty mits on
Apparently the tables where the delegates were staying were flimsy and broken. It's no suprise since their carpenter Julius failed wood work
@RPhiri. Ass much as i do not want to pull JM into many conversations I could not help having a short moment giggle bursting out of my chest.
Mooi man! That was funny!
Thanks DuToit!
The ANC like any other organisation with International VIP's should have tasked a couple of people to overlook what the Rantsoaneng Hotel Group had prepared for their guests, because the group is now paid but the ANC's name is tainted, these where NOT mickey mouse people but Heads of State and Former Heads of state, so all I can say is an oversight from the ANC, because I am sure one could have followed up with the group that was tasked to check if all was Ok, if NOT then demand that the guests where well taken care of!
Africa is not famous for forsight and planning, and even less famous for delivering on plans.
At core is an almost complete absence of personal accountability fostered by an irrational conviction that collectivism solves everything. It does not, it creates places to hide.
if Africa is not good at planning and organising events as you say,I get the feeling you are not proud to be african and perhaps you should immigrate to Australia where they always get everything right!
Yes man. Another BEE screw-up. I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peace: Your arrogance is typical, and is a significant contributer to what you might consider to be proudly african. Idiots like yourself will drive away the very skills the country needs to improve. Sure I can go to Oz, and maybe I will now that I am retired having brought my skills and education to this country 30 years ago and contributed in some small measure to the healthcare system here. But as I said it is yours and others arrogance that will drive away skills and resources, many of which have a lot more to offer SA today than I have.
Oversight? Is it not incompetance like in all other stuff they do including running the country
@piss. You sound like a dumb bunny. If all people with high expectations are asked to leave the country, we will be be left with people with low expectations, such as yourself. Learn to think and then make an intelligent or worthwhile comment.
Oh Peace, In my rush to reply to you I missed your mistake. I was not suggesting that Africa is not so good at organising events. My comment was not so specific, rather I was referring to a general incapacity.
could you please step aside, the grown up are having a serious conversations, the reason why ANC is rubbish like this is because of people like you!ANC is too proud that is why is falling like this.
Sphiwe, All the over lookers were too busy overlooking the split from the till. JuJu was probably the overlooker of the overlookers.
Zuma and his admin are a disgrace to the South African population, from judiciary to hosting guests. Heed the call and support it before it's too late. He must go........
Get rid of the whole 'church' 100 years was a good run, now it's just a name brand being used by greedy fat pigs.
lets be supportive of our government because it fought for our liberation,I know there are flaws in our government and our liberation movement,apartheid was worse than what we are going through right now!
Is that what you believe, cANCer was the only organization fighting for liberation. Steve Biko and IFP had more to do with "your" freedom than any cANCer member , but the Government wants to cover that truth up.
Damn the man.
The country will never fall back into it's apartheid ways, thank God, but it doesn't mean we have to just accept our now loacal corrupt government, does it? During apartheid the blacks got screwed, now we're ALL getting screwed. The ANC didn't fight for liberation..... the people did. Take the red pill Peace, you're living in a dream world.
@Peace. I agree, BUT........ How long will the money and infrastructure left by the "apartheid regime"(sic) last ???????????
Already there's hardly anything left.
@Felix: It saddens me greatly to see your comment here, becuase I think your opinion reflects the same opinion of many of our uneducated brothers & sisters around South Africa who keep the party in power. The struggle was not won by the ANC, or any other party, the struggle was won by the PEOPLE of South Africa. It was ordinary PEOPLE like you & me who risked everything to bring an end to apartheid. In those days, people like Madiba lead the cause and orchestrated some strategies to effect change we wanted, but it was always the PEOPLE that executed those strategies and MADE the change happen. THIS GOVERNMENT...this cancer that calls itself the ANC does not reflect ANY of that. They do not respect each other, they do not respect the dream of freedom and equality for all, and worst of all, they do not respect the PEOPLE that fought & died for a better life. THIS GOVERNMENT is nothing more than a wolf in freedom's clothing. Have you ever heard the story of the emperor's new clothes? Well in SA those masses that vote for the ANC are the emperor, believing they will have fancy new clothes that the ANC is promising them when in fact they are naked & will remain naked forever because this party wants you to eat food through "their" lips. Don't be proud of the ANC, they didn't end Apartheid.. our mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters did. All the ANC has done is hijacked all the spoils for themselves. These "people" are not your friends.
Sorry, that was meant for "Peace", not Felix
@William, I was like What? :)
Cant organise a sleep over but qualified to run a country?
A sleep over where food and drinks were just a wet dream
But they would be perfect at running a sewage plant with all the crap they have in the ANC
Sounds like a pajama party to me.......!
Waaahahahaha!!! Oh RPhiri, you are one quality man
"Had to buy necessities
Security guards for President Yuweri Museveni from Uganda had to buy him some grilled chicken from Nando's." lol nothing like the bare necessities..
"Security guards for President Yuweri Museveni from Uganda had to buy him some grilled chicken from Nando's."
I see a new Nando's ad coming! LOL
Can't wait for the Nando's ad :D
I started cackling at the Nando's bit. Oh the irony!
TIA - This is Africa?
There is really nothing to complain about. The priorities were attended to. There was liquor. A drinking nation is a happy nation. And who wants to sleep during a celebration?
Seriously who cares (or is surprised)? Millions of South Africans are still waiting for food, houses (forget beds & linen) for more than 15 years from them.
Priceless. *snorts with laughter*
In other words, NANDOS can do a better job than the ANC. LOL
Advert showing African leaders from far and wide flocking to Nando's. Some with their own bedding under their arms, some with a bottle of Klipdrift in hand, saying "we're here for the ANC. The African Nando's Celebration. We saw it on TV".
The ANC once again proved they are not capable in organization and what ever stories now emerge as to who is at fault for this fiasco, they must accept responsibility as the onus was for them to follow up and ensure all was in place. But as in the past blame will be laid elsewhere. Fortunately this was a party for the ANC movement and not the country, Mr Cameron ( British PM) stated they were a shining example to the rest of the world yet we know better.
oh shamepies....poor anc head of states. They used our tax money no doubt but still they feel wrong done by. Poor corrupt thieving ba$tards.
Haha, yaa neh!!
If this was bad for the country's image, wait and see what the ANC is going to do this month at the United Nations!
Terrifying thought! Don't expect too much sense out of the Security Council for a while!
Typical, these a...holes could not organise a piss up in a brewery. We are the laughing stock of the world. Please mother earth, open and swallow the damn lot of them from the face o the earth for good!!!
Let's hope those ancient Mexican dudes were correct! Problem could be solved for all of us by 21 December this year........
...only one thing:poor mother earth WILL die immediately!,after swallowed the damn lot of them.....
As ANC we do not, I repeat, we do not share a cent of the R 400 million with anyone, be it a head of state, a head of household or any other nuthead who happened to attend the farce in Bloem!!!!!
Nog enetjie? Ja met Eish !!!!
Welcome to Affirmative Standards!
Yes and they apply those exacting standards to service delivery. No wonder everything is in such a mess. Viva ANC. Absolutely pathetic
And look to every other African country, all the same
How are you gonna run mines?
@Amos - The miners will be expected to buy their own spitforks! Beers will be free though!
Deeper into the gound?
Rantsoareng hotel group??? Never heard of them. Maybe another BEE flop???
Well Valentine Rantsoareng is one of the owners of the company who is also mentioned on this page http://www.environment.gov.za/documents/publications/2004nov11/startyourowntourbusiness.pdf so BEE the company is but it smells ugly something fierce.
so his excellency Dr Jacob Zuma,my president was supposed to hold all and sundry by hand to make sure they are well taken care of?while there were other important matters like the centenary celebrations programme that had to be followed?
When you invite VIP's to your party, then yes, you are expected to ensure that they are well taken care of!
Yes peace, when you invite International Guests to your Country where you are the host, that is what you do, you ensure that they are well taken care of you clown, you ensure that if they are sleeping in your Country that there is linen on their beds, are you stuck on stupid??
No this is micro example of what is wrong on the whole. They get a buddy to tender, take a fat cut of the pie. Meanwhile the buddy doesn't have the ability to the job? Why do you think our municipalities are all broke an failing? It is for exactly these reasons,.... don't you get it? I truly believe that the definition of corruption is lost on most South Africans. This is such a good example of how a system is broken down by corruption i.e. employing cronies (that cant do the job) to get a cut of the taxpayers pie. I am probably wasting my "breath"
so his excellency Dr Jacob Zuma,was supposed to personally oversee that sheets are fitted in foreign dignitaries` beds?
Yes its called management. Which clearly he can't do !
@ Peace
Don't argue like a retard. Please.
Nobody is suggesting that the president does what you now suggest.
Using absurdity as an argument only works if the situations are comparable and the conclusion drawn from it is realistic. Otherwise it degenerates into useless sarcasm of no practical value.
Must the most obvious of the obvious always be pointed out to some?
'Dr Jacob Zuma'.... ha ha Peace you are funny, he has Grade 6.... ha ha ha ha. Ever thought of becoming a standup comedian.
@Peace - He doesn't have to do it himself! There are people that get paid to attend to the admnistration of such events don't you realise it?
yes peace... like when the stadium went empty while he did his speach.... do you always invites quests over and have them by their own food and bedding?.... mmmmmm........
@Peace, "excellency Dr Jacob Zuma" WTF, he has a std 4 for crying in a bucket, please do not use the abbreviation of Dr in the same sentence as Zuma, I take acception to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ha ba ha ha STOP DR zuma please stop
@Sean: Some things in life we regard as common sense. Unfortunately common sense isn't common to everyone.
@martin and rlong
whether you like him or not,grade 6 education or not,his excellency Dr Jacob Zuma is your president and mine.Aluta continua!
Nooo man...just guide the heads of state where to purchase their styf pap and runaways...By the way, a Dr title with std 3 qualification??? Nuff said.
There is no way in hell he is my President, he is a criminal and should be in jail. I am so embarrassed to say that he is a South African President, but he is NOT my president, never has been and never will be.
By the way Peace, stop being an ostrich and take your head out of the sand and get a life.
You're either a troll or very stupid; so if I invite you to my party and to stay over, I will expect you to bring your own food, and a tent to sleep in! LOL.
Yoweri Museveni, Paul Kagame, Obiang Nguema, Bingu wa Mutharika? Dictators, all of them, and they have plenty of money plundered from their own countries to splash out on a little Nandos every now and then.
trust the ANC to stuff it up ... just like the rest of everything they are in charge of.
Pap and vleis was beneath them! Nandos was their choice instead - I am sure that they will start importing Take-aways from now on.........
according to the plan,what plan, any plan aslong as there is drinks,mmm the drinks wil make them forget about everything,even the complaints.proberly read the speach abbout pres Zuma in the papers the next day
The ANC are only interested in them selves, not the people. They treated the foriegn delegates the way they treat the rest of the nation who are not in ANC leadership.
"He said the staff members were hired by Design HR."
Did they actually use a labour hire company? I thought they were to be done away with as part of the evil apartheid legacy.
YA YA YA as if I'm really surprised this happened.
one word -TYPICAL
They could not get pissed if they fell into a barrel of Johnny Walker Black!
" This was an event arranged by government and government made sure that all was in order.".....presies ja!:-P
I would like to see a breakdown of the R100 million and what is was actually spent on.
Wasn't it R400 mil?
It was R100 million of ANC money PLUS R400 million of taxpayers money.
Would of thought for half a billion they could have put sheets on the beds and food on the table....
BEE contractors hired, or more likely relative of some viking - payments of 10's of millions made, but it just went through their business acct into their personal acct. They then forgot to actually do the job for which they were hired. Definitely not surprised !
They were so busy counting the money they forgot to sheet......hehehe!
The fundamental problem is the mentality of the ANC and the fact that they have closed their eyes to what kind of expertise we have within the country.
We will never know the true cost of this celebration. One has to assume some of the funds went into the fixing up of Bloemfontein, but what struck me most was the fact, that after spending R32 Million on the restoration of the Wesleyan Church, that you would have a black electric cord running up a newly plastered wall and then bolt a wooden cross over the electric cord. I also noticed unfinished plaster work where the wall meets the ceiling boards. At R32 Million I would have expected a wooden cornice to conceal unfinished plaster work.
Who was the contractor entrusted with this renovation?
As we have read now, it was another black owned company in charge of the accommodation arrangements. What has happened to all the companies involved with the Soccer World Cup? Or is this true that FIFA brought in their own expertise to organise the World Cup, but we are so terrified of employing a white owned company because we just love ignoring the fact that South Africa has brilliant "white" expertise to show us off as a First World country?
Not all white South Africans are like most of the commentators on here. There are many white South Africans that has a lot to offer South Africa and as South Africans they should be given the chance to show the world who we are. Not all of us, black and white, are stuck in the past like the ANC.
That is why the government are begging expertise to return to South Africa....... Makes you think hey?
This was in evidence shortly after 1994, Ubhejane. Good management amongst other things means getting optimal utilisation out of resources. Buiding on strenghts and eliminating weaknesses.
How shall I put it. The ANC shot itself in the face, cut off its foot to spoil the nose of the dog in the manger looking at the mouth of the gift horse.
Is it a question of black or white or is it a question of skill. The person who can do the job best, be he/she white or black or indeed a blakc white partnership (things need not always be polarised between black and white) should be given the job. If you still think in terms of white=skill and black =non-skilled then you also live in the past and are like the majority of commentators here.
well said Ubhejane
How can that be after plashing 100 million on celebration?
Ja and? Why must South African taxpayers pay for foreign leaders to eat, sleep and drink?
Oh wait, it's that "sense of entitlement"
I think the problem is that we did pay, lots and lots of money that could have been spent on essential things... and yet, despite the lots and lots that we paid, we embarrassed ourselves in front of the important foreign guests. One would have hoped that some of the taxpayers' money (which was spent on who knows what) would have at least put sheets on the beds and food on the tables of our guests from other countries. It's about our image.
Embarrassed ourselves in front of the ANC's dictator cronies? Who gives a sh*t.
It's the ANC that are embarrassed, not the nation as a whole.
@Wesley: No, the nation as a whole is embarrassed, because the fact is the money WAS spent, but spent on what? Nobody knows... I agree that we shouldn't be wasting our money on these despots in the first place, but at least we'd know where the money went. Now we don't know what's going on...which in my opinion is even worse.
I love it, now the world can see we live in a Banana Republic
HAHAHAHA!! Pathetic! - Typical ANC!
Now if they cant even take care of the guests and heavy weight leaders, what are the chances that they'll take care of the ordinary man in the street!?


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Evolution Encyclopedia Vol. 1
Chapter 7 Appendix
Supplementary Material
Yes, time does appear to have magical qualities, at least if you listen to how evolutionists extol its marvelous abilities. Consider the following statements:
*Darwin recognized his theories fell flat without long ages of time. (Knowledgeable scientists now recognize they fall flat, even if there had been long ages of time.)
"I am greatly troubled at the short duration of the world according to Lord Kelvin, for I require for my theoretical views a very long period."—*Charles Darwin, quoted in N. Macbeth, Darwin Retried (1972), p. 109.
Lord Kelvin was one of the most brilliant scientists of the 19th century. *Charles Darwin, lacking even a day's scholastic training in science, strongly disliked Kelvin's clear evidences that the earth could not be millions of years old:
"Darwin developed a personal dislike for Kelvin calling him the 'odious specter'. . Darwin was reassured by the geologists' new ideas on the age of the earth; he knew that enough time was available, and that was the secret strength of his theory.. ages were great enough to give ample latitude to the geologists and the biologists for their explanations of the changes in the surface of the earth and the changes in the forms of the creatures that inhabit our planet."—*Robert Jastrow, "How Old is the Universe?" in Natural History, 83 (1974):80-82.
A well-known scientist solemnly tells us that large amounts of time can (using only the randomness to be found in moving gas, water, and sand) perform the miracles which even laboratory scientists cannot perform:
"Time is in fact the hero of the plot. The time with which we have to deal is of the order of two billion years. What we regard as impossible on the basis of human experience is meaningless here. Given so much time, the 'impossible' becomes possible, the possible probable, and the probable virtually certain. One has only to wait: time itself performs the miracles."—*G. Wald, "The Origin of Life, " in The Physics and Chemistry of Life (1955), p. 12.
Evolutionists declare that the most mathematically impossible of events will definitely occur, given enough time. For example, would you like to see oceans on the moon, cities building themselves on Mars, and a cold steel bar extending through the entire diameter of the still-burning sun? Just allow enough time, and nature will definitely do it. It will happen all by itself. Anything can happen given enough time:
"The mechanists were not discouraged by the enormous span of time required for this chance event. They point out that, given enough time, the most improbable event becomes a statistical certainty."—*J. Keosian, The Origin of Life (1968), p. 10.
"The highly improbable . . indeed is inevitable."—*Leo Koch, "Vitalistic-Mechanistic Controversy," in Scientific Monthly, 85 (1957):250.
*Urey hopes that enough billion years could turn the impossible into a possibility:
"The evolution from inanimate systems of biochemical compounds, e.g., the proteins, carbohydrates, enzymes and many others, of the intricate systems of reactions characteristic of living organisms, and the truly remarkable ability of molecules to reproduce themselves seems to those most expert in the field to be almost impossible. Thus a time from the beginning of photosynthesis of two billion years may help many to accept the hypothesis of the spontaneous generation of life."—*Harold Urey, "On the Early Chemical History of the Earth and the Origin of Life," in Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, 38 (1952):362.
*Operin sees it differently:
"It is sometimes argued in speculative papers on the origin of life that highly improbable events (such as the spontaneous formation of a molecule of DNA and a molecule of DNA-polymerase in the same region of space and at the same time) become virtually inevitable over the vast stretches of geological time. No serious quantitative arguments, however, are given in support of such conclusions."— *A.I. Oparin, Life: Its Nature, Origin and Development (1961), p. 31.
Thoughtful scientists have carefully considered some of the problems and implications in the standard dating methods. Their message deserves wide consideration:
"To extrapolate is to estimate on the basis of values already known;" so says the dictionary. But when evolutionists extrapolate, they estimate on the basis of assumptions, which in turn are based on theories. The result is a house of cards which constantly needs to be propped up lest it fall to pieces.
"Geochronology [theoretical dating of rocks and the entire planet] is a field of study in which one is on 'thin ice' scientifically speaking, since the methods used make extrapolations into the past in which no observations have been recorded and hypotheses cannot be checked by the experimental method. The extrapolations made will depend upon one's assumptions. Will Rogers once said in effect that a scientist gets a bigger reputation the more he advances hypotheses that you cannot check to see if they are right or wrong. Some scientists such as Harold Urey refuse to speculate on the physical condition of the surface of the moon, for instance, even though there is a great deal of evidence collected in this regard, but will write volumes concerning the origin of the earth and prehistory.'' —H. Slusher, The Creation Alternative (1970), p. 55.
Here are some factors that must be taken into account in order for time dating to be of value:
"Many different processes of change may be used as clocks to measure time, but for such a clock or timer to be reliable it must meet the following requirements:
[1] The time units must be meaningful and readable.
(2] The timer must be sensitive enough to measure the interval in question. The same timer would not be used for a hundred yard dash and the return of Haley's comet.
[3[ We must know when the timer was started. True, some clocks have a calendar, but a clock does not tell how many times its hands have gone around.
[4] We must know not only when the timer was started, but what the reading was on the timer scale when it started. Was the stop watch at zero when the race began? Or was it on thirty seconds?
[5] The timer must run at a uniform rate; if it does not, we must know what the irregularities are in order to have a meaningful timer.
[6] The timer must not have been disturbed in any way or reset since it was started." —R. E. Kofahl and K. L. Segraves, The Creation Explanation (19751 p. 183.
Now for a brilliant statement. If the universe has existed forever, as the evolutionists claim, then why are there any radioactive substances anywhere? They should long ago have turned into inert, non-radioactive isotopes.
"To assume that the universe had no beginning . . fails to account for the continued existence of radioactivity." —*Scientific American, Quoted in F. Meldau, Why We Believe in Creation, p. 66.
"Of the original thorium and uranium existing on Earth at the time of its formation, 80 percent of the former and 50 percent of the latter still exist today."—*Isaac Asimov, Asimov's New Guide to Science (1984), p. 280.
A scientist looks at the inherent problems in radioactive dating:
"There are many difficulties and assumptions associated with the radioactivity methods. There are the experimental difficulties of measuring very small quantities of elements present. There is no way of knowing how much original lead is present in the mineral. If some of the lead in the sample was non-radiogenic, then the computed age would be too large by an indefinite amount. The methods used for the determination and elimination of this non-radiogenic lead are very inaccurate. There can also be the factor of uranium leaching. With all the tectonic movements and erosional action it would seem that there would be considerable changes in the quantities of the parent elements. There could also be by the same processes radiogenic lead contamination. A major basic assumption is that the decay rates have remained constant. This is now open to serious question. It is believed that cosmic radiation may affect disintegration constants. Also Westinghouse physicists in 1964 found a way of changing the decay rate of iron 57 by as much as 3 percent. If a decay rate can vary then this radioactive dating method is useless again." —H. Slusher, The Creation Alternative (1970), pp. 62-63.
*Salop refers to the impracticality of trying to date strata by radiodating methods:
"After describing one group of geologists who uncritically accepted radiometric dating, Salop [* L. J. Salop, Precambrian of the Northern Hemisphere (1971), p. 3] said:
"'The other group [of geologists], in the face of many discrepancies between radiometric and geological data, tended to reject this technique in stratigraphic studies, or accepted it with great caution.'
"The fact that Precambrian dating results are often very contradictory has been discussed towards the end of the author's work. This statement by Salop illustrates the consequences of such erratic dates."—John Woodmorappe, "An Anthology of Matters Significant to Creationism and Diluviology: Report 1,"in Creation Research Society Quarterly, March 1980, p. 218.
Uranium dating is considered the "master clock" by which all the other dating methods are calibrated. Yet, as we have observed earlier in this chapter, it is full of uncertain assumptions, and obviously inaccurate results.
"Uranium-lead decay is the primary basis of the absolute geological time scale, and. . it has been used to calibrate other methods," yet it is as flawed as the other dating methods.
"In principle, the time of formation of a uranium mineral can be determined from one of the following isotopic ratios: Pb206/U238, Pb2O7/U236, or Pb207/Pb206. Since these ratios are affected in differing degrees and direction by various errors in measurement or geological alteration, the concurrence of ages obtained from these three ratios suggests a true absolute age.
Actually for a large fraction of the mineral samples on which these ratios have been measured, the three isotopic ages do not agree.
"Since the uranium-lead decay is the primary basis of the absolute geological time scale, and since it has been used to calibrate other methods, it is important that we understand these anomalies [inaccuracies].
"In a recent paper, Kulp, Bate, and Broecker attempted to evaluate the factors that would produce anomalous ages. It was concluded that uncertainties in the chemical and isotopic analyses and the physical constants were not a significant source of error. Except in the rare cases where the concentration of common lead in the total lead of a sample becomes large, the error in the correction for common lead is trivial. Radon leakage ranges from 0.01 percent to 5 percent in most minerals causing the 206/238 age to be low by this proportion for all minerals (i.e., less than 600 million years).
"For minerals older than 1000 million years, the correction on the 207/206 age for radon leakage is generally unimportant. Five of about 50 samples for which uranium-lead ages have been published show the effect of recent oxidation and leaching. In these cases the 207/206 ages as expected for uranium removal. After a consideration of all these factor:, many of the anomalous ages remain unexplained."— *J.L Kulp and *W.R. Eckelmann, "Anomalous Uranium-Lead Ages," Geological Society of America Bulletin, 86:767 (1955).
In his important book, Implications of Evolution, *Kerkut comments on the problems in uranium/lead and thorium/lead dating.
"There are considerable differences in the age as determined from the different ratio of the isotopes 206/207, 206/238, 207/235, or 208/232. Thus Kulp has published a table giving data for forty-five different samples of material, the end ratios being determined by mass spectrometer; and of these only seven are believed to be accurate to within 5%.
"Some are very inaccurate due, it is believed, to the loss of radon by diffusion from the rocks in the series U238/Pb206. Another difficulty is due to the amount of non-radiogenic lead present in the material. Where this is high there is a corresponding high error in the estimation. This can lead to an error of 700 million years in the exceptional case of the Caribou Mine, Colorado, where the deposit contained as much as 97 percent lead. The correct age of the deposit was 25 million years old."— *G.A. Kerkut, "Radioactive Dating of Rocks," Implications of Evolution (1960), p. 137.
Thorium radioactive dating is another important means of ascertaining the dates of ancient materials. But, as we have discovered earlier in this chapter, its inaccuracies outweigh its value.
John Woodmorappe produced an excellent analysis of dating errors produced by the thorium-lead method. Radiodating technicians consider their results very satisfactory, as long as some of the dates are difficult to contest. Yet Woodmorappe says that only a few wrong dates should be enough to void the whole procedure as a waste of time.
"The uniformitarians may contend that there are many more dates in agreement with accepted values than there are anomalies such as all of Table 1. Even if this were true, it would not appear to be an overwhelming majority, and a significant minority of discrepant dates would probably be sufficient to discredit all of radiometric dating. Since most igneous [volcanic] bodies have wide biostratigraphic limits, it is difficult to tell that a date is not anomalous because it could take on many different values and not be anomalous." —John Woodmorappe, "Radiometric Geochronology Reappraised," Creation Research Society Quarterly, 16:102 (1979).
"J. Woodmorappe tabulates several discordant ages obtained by the thorium-lead method, which in addition do not agree with uranium-lead dates for the same sample.
"Granites from Utah, thought be less than 70 million years old, were radiometrically dated as: 794 millions (Th232/Ph208); 494 million years (U238/Ph206); and 756 million years (U236/Pb207).
"Granites from eastern Siberia, supposed to be more than 600 million years old, had radiometric ages of: 420 million years (Th232/Ph208); 370 million years (U238/Ph206); and 410 million years (U236/Pb207) . .
"Interestingly enough, the only comprehensive survey of discordant radiometric dates found so far is by creationist J. Woodmorappe. He compiles over 350 radiometric dates that 'are very anomalous with respect to accepted values for their biostratigraphic positions.' By 'very anomalous' Woodmorappe means either more than 20 percent too high or 20 percent too low. To support his immense table, he lists 445 references from the scientific literature."—* William Corliss, Anomalies in Geology (1989), p. 258.
In regard to his findings—and after having reviewed large numbers of scientific papers and all the excuses to be found in them,—Woodmorappe says this:
"The implications of all these findings are enormous. Any discrepant date can be explained away, and a heating or weathering event can be invented whenever necessary for this purpose. No evidence need be found because its absence can be attributed to it being strong enough to make the unwanted date discrepant, but too weak to show up in thin section.
"An illogical situation arises because at one time it is claimed that radiometric dates have withstood obvious alteration of the rock, while at other times they supposedly were so sensitive that they were made discrepant by an event too weak to alter the rock itself.
"A skeptical view of radiometric dating looks at all these lacks of correlation of alteration and discrepancy of dates as evidence that they are just rationalizations, and that discrepant dates are not primarily caused by alteration but by the fundamental invalidity of radiometric dating." —John Woodmorappe, "Radiometric Geochronology Reappraised," Creation Research Society
Quarterly, 16:102 (1979).
Rubidium-Strontium (Rb-Sr) dating has serious problems invalidating the possibility of useful dating, according to knowledgeable scientists:
The Rb-Sr problem is so serious as to be overwhelming:
"One serious consequence of the mantle isochron model is that crystallization ages determined on basic igneous rocks by the Rb-Sr whole rock technique can be greater than the true age by many hundreds of millions of years. This problem of inherited age is more serious for younger rocks, and there are well-documented instances of conflicts between stratigraphic age and Rb-Sr age in the literature."—*C. Brooks, *D.E. James and *S. R. Hart, "Ancient Lithosphere: Its Role in Young Continental Volcanism, "in Science, Vol. 193, September 17, 1876, p. 1093.
Whenever the Rb-Sr dates do not agree with other theorized dates, it is said that too much strontium was in the sample, and that that extra amount did not come from rubidium in the sample, but somehow wandered in from elsewhere.
"The major source of error in Rb-Sr [rubidium-strontium] age determinations on whole rock samples of shale is the presence of inherited radiogenic strontium in the detrital minerals." —*P.R. Whitney and *P.M. Hurley, "The Problem of Inherited Radiogenic Strontium in Sedimentary Age Determination," in Geochimics et Cosmochimica Acts, Vol. 24 April 1864.
These experts tell the young geologists not to worry when their Rb-Sr dates are not in agreement with sedimentary fossil theories:
"These data suggest that great caution must be used when applying the Rb-Sr whole rock technique to metamorphic rocks. This and other studies show that meter-sedimentary rocks can yield linear arrays of points on isochron diagrams, but that the age can have a variety of geological meanings and need not define the date of deposition or metamorphism of the sediment." —*M. Spanglet, *H.A. Brueckner and *R.G. Senechal, "Old Rb-Sr Whole Rock Apparent Ages From Lower Cambrian Psammites and Metapsammites, Southeastern New York" in the Bulletin of the Geological Society of America, Vol. 88, May 1878, p.788.
Rb-Sr researchers went to the southwestern part of Montana and analyzed rocks in that locality. They came up with an immense variety of dates. (1 AE6 109 years, therefore 1.6 AE5 1 billion, 600 thousand years ago.)
"Major isotopic age discordances are found at the eastern margin of a terrain in SW Montana which underwent metamorphism 1.6 AE (1.6 billion years] ago. In Portal Creek, a one-mile portion of a traverse across this margin yields:
"(1) Discordant whole rock Rb-Sr ages which approximate 2.8 AE [2.8 billion years]; (2) seven biotite Rb-Sr ages concordant at 1.68 AE [1.68 billion years]; (3) fifteen biotite K-Ar ages which are highly discordant and range from 1.63 to 3.25 AE (1.68-3.25 billion years]; (4) ten generally concordant hornblende K-Ar ages at 1.9 AE [1.9 billion years]."— *Ibid.
In the next paragraph, the discordant dates are theorized away.
"It is concluded that there was a major resetting event for the hornblendes at 1.9 AE [1.9 billion years] ago. This was followed by a milder event at 1.6 AE (1.6 billion years] when the biotites became open systems while the hornblendes did not. During this time, the biotites lost all their radiogenic 87Sr, but actually gained radiogenic 40Ar in amounts up to 16x10-4 scc Ar/g biotite."—*Ibid.
*Brooks admits the extremely skewed dates produced by Rb-Sr dating, but explains that they can be explained by a theory developed to explain them.
"An important but commonly overlooked isotopic property of volcanic rocks is that they often show Sr isotopic compositions that correlate with Rb/Sr ratios to form pseudoisochrons which give ages grossly in excess of the true age of volcanism. It is our contention that these pseudoisochrons are a key to the understanding of mantle processes both in continental and oceanic regions, and that for the former they furnish evidence for the participation of ancient lithosphere in continental magmatism [volcanic action]." —*C. Brooks, et. al., "Ancient Lithosphere: Its Role in Young Continental Volcanism," Science, 193:1086 (1976).
Potassium-Argon (K-Ar) dating is widely used at the present time to date fossils and related organic materials from earlier times (see chapter 26, Paleomagnetic Dating). Modern scientific research in several crucial areas of advanced studies relies heavily upon it. Read this and you will wonder why:
*Sedemann downgrades the usefulness of K-Ar dating of underseas rocks:
"In an attempt to establish criteria for obtaining reliable K-Ar [potassium-argon] dates, conventional K-Ar studies of several Deep Sea Drilling Project sites were undertaken. K-Ar dates of these rocks may be subject to inaccuracies as the result of seawater alteration. Inaccuracies also may result from the presence of excess radiogenic Ar-40 trapped in rapidly cooled rocks at the time of their formation."— *Davis E. Sedemann, "Effect of Submarine Alteration on K-Ar Dating of Deep-Sea Igneous Rocks," in the Bulletin of the Geological Society of America, Vol. 88, November 1977, p. 1660.
In working with K-Ar dating samples, those that disagree are tossed in the waste basket, with the judgment that, for some unknown reason, the sample had "too much" or "too little" K-Ar in it!
"In conventional interpretation of K-Ar age data, it is common to discard ages which are substantially too high or too low compared with the rest of the group or with other available data such as the geological time scale. The discrepancies between the rejected and the accepted are arbitrarily attributed to excess or loss of argon." —*A. Hayatsu, "K-Ar Isochron Age of the North Mountain Basalt, Nova Scotia," in the Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences, Vol. 18, 1979, p. 974.
All K-Ar dates not in the accepted time range are not only trashed, but not discussed. This is science?
"In general, dates in the 'correct ball park' are assumed to be correct and are published, but those in disagreement with other data are seldom published nor are discrepancies fully explained."—*R. L Mauger, "K -Ar Ages of Biotite from Tuffs in Eocene Rocks of Green River, Washakie and Uinta Basins," in Contributions to Geology, Vol. 16,(1), 1977, p. 37.
The K-Ar sample must agree with the theory before it can be utilized:
"Strong indication of the reliability of a conventional K-Ar date, such as its concordance with the dates of co-existing minerals, must exist before geologic significance can be attributed."—*David E. Saidemann, "Effect of Submarine Alteration on K-Ar Dating of Deep-Sea Igneous Rocks," in the Bulletin of the Geological Society of America Vol. 88, November 1977, p. 1660.
Two researchers laugh at the foolishness of only selecting certain K-Ar dating samples for use, while explaining away the rest:
"Thus, if one believes that the derived ages in particular instances are in gross disagreement with established facts of field geology, he must conjure up geological processes that could cause anomalous or altered argon contents of the minerals."—*J P. Evernden and *J.R. Richards, "Potassium Argon Ages in Eastern Australia," in the Journal of the Geological Society of Australia, Vol. 9, No. 1, 1962, p.3.
'Natural History adds this comment:
"The [potassium-argon] dating method is increasingly inaccurate for dates of less than one million years. Consequently, there is a period during Early and Middle Pleistocene times when dating human remains is difficult and uncertain." —*Natural History, February 1967, p. 58.
The use of such highly-inaccurate dates are the basis for the long ages assigned to the existence of our planet:
"Through radioactive dating methods, the age of the earth has been approximated at 4,500 million years. A new and higher figure—6,500 million years—has now been given [using K-Ar dating]."—*Science Digest, December 1962, p. 35.
Two scientists talk frankly about the flaws in K-Ar dating technology:
"The potassium-argon clock has been heralded and was supposed to have great prospects. But, as of late, it has fallen into some bad times. There are some very serious objections to using the potassium-argon decay family as a radiometric clock. This is, of course, very harmful to the position of those holding the theory of seafloor spreading since their time scale has been calculated using mainly K40/Ar4Odates.
"About 11 percent of K40 decays by electron capture and gamma ray emission to Ar4O and the remaining 89 percent of the K40 decays by beta-particle emission to form Ca4O. The geochronologist considers the Ca40 of little practical use in radiometric dating since common calcium is such an abundant element and the radiogenic Ca40 has the same atomic mass as the calcium.
"There is far too much Ar40 in the earth for more than a small fraction of it to have been formed by radioactive decay of K40. This is true even if the earth were really 4.5 billion years old. In the atmosphere of the earth, Ar40 constitutes 99.6 percent of the total argon. This is around 100 times the amount that would be generated by radioactive decay over the hypothetical 4.5 billion years. Certainly this is not produced by an influx from outer space. Thus, it would seem that a large amount of Ar4O was present in the beginning. Since geochronologists assume that errors due to presence of initial Ar4O are small, their results are highly questionable.
"Argon diffuses from mineral to mineral with great ease. It leaks out of rocks very readily and, therefore, can move from down deep in the earth, where the pressure is large, and accumulate in an abnormally large amount in the surface where our rock samples for dating are found. They would all have excess argon due to this movement. This makes them appear older. Rocks from deeper in the crust would show this to a lesser degree. Also, since some rocks hold the Ar4O more strongly than others, some rocks will have a large apparent age, others smaller ages, though they may actually be the same age.
"If you were to measure Ar4O concentration as a function of depth, you would no doubt find more of it near the surface than at deeper points because it migrates more easily from deep in the earth than it does from the earth into the atmosphere. It is very easy to see how the huge ages are being obtained by the K40-Ar4O radiometric clock, since surface and near surface samples will contain argon due to this diffusion effect.
"Mr. Webster Smith . . regarded the atomic [radioactive] dating method . . as still very tentative especially where the older rocks were concerned and where discordant and even absurd results were quite common. There were records of granites which atomically were older than other granites that they intruded . . Argon was all too prone to be either deficient, wholly absent, or even too high; in such cases the author 'adjusted' his figures."— *P.A. Sabine and *J Watson, Introduction to "Isotopic Age-Determinations of Rocks from the British Isles," in Journal of the Geological Society of London, 12:525, 1955-64 (1965).
K-Ar analysis yields old ages for new materials.
"The radiogenic argon and helium contents of three basalts erupted into the deep ocean from an active volcano [Kilauea] have been measured. Ages calculated from these measurements increase with sample depth up to 22 million years for lavas deduced to be recent."—*C.S. Noble and J.J. Naughton, "Deep-Ocean Basalts: Inert Gas Content and Uncertainties in Age Dating," Science, 162:265 (1968).
Another scientist also discusses the problem:
"Many of the rocks seem to have inherited Ar4O from the magma from which the rocks were derived. Volcanic rocks erupted into the ocean definitely inherit Ar40 and helium, and thus when these are dated by the K40-Ar40 clock, old ages are obtained from very recent flows. For example, lavas taken from the ocean bottom off the island of Hawaii on a submarine extension of the east rift zone of Kilauea volcano gave an age of 22 million years, but the actual flow happened less than 200 years ago.
"Some geochronologists believe that a possible cause of excess argon is that argon diffuses into mineral progressively with time. Significant quantities of argon may be inherited into a mineral even at pressures as low as one bar.
"If such 'wild' ages as mentioned above are obtained for pillow lavas, how 'wild' are those from deep sea drilling out in the Atlantic where sea-floor spreading is supposed to be occurring?"—H. Slusher, Critique of Radiometric Dating (19731 p. 38, 39.
In scientific terminology, we are here told that K-Ar samples are only usable when they agree with pre-decided standards as to the amount of inert substance (argon) contained within them. If the ratios do not agree, then the conclusions will be erratic.
"The Ar-40/Ar-36 vs. K-40/Ar-36 isochrons are valid only when all samples of the system under consideration have the same non-radiogenic argon composition. If this condition does not hold, invalid ages and intercepts are obtained. Models
2-9 yield isochron ages that are too high, too low, or in the future, sometimes by orders of magnitude."—*M. Shafiqullah and *P.E. Damon, "Evaluation of K-Ar Isochron Methods, " in Geochimica et Cosmochimica Acta 38:1355-6 (1974).
Read it and weep. Is this science?
"Potassium-argon determinations on 23 muscovite-biotite pairs from the Upper East Alpine Aftkristallin of the Eastern Alps yield apparent ages ranging between 79 and 107 m.y. [million years] for the muscovite and between 78 and 490 m.y. for the coexisting biotite. The micas appear to be of the same generation and neither differential leaching of potassium nor abnormal blocking temperature relationships are able to explain this discordance."— *M.S. Brewer, "Excess Radiogenic Argon in Metamorphic Micas from the Eastern Alps, Austria," Earth and Planetary Science Letters, 6:321 (1969).
The accepted theory today among scientists is that our planet is 4.5 billion years old. But, using the wildly aberrant K-Ar dating, a Soviet scientific team, headed by *E.K. Gerling, found 6-billion-year-old rocks in the Baltic Shield, a type of rock that covers large sections of Scandinavia! ("Earth's Age Much Underestimated?" New Scientist, 14:;720 (1962). No one, anywhere, has been able to produce such an ancient age for a rock. But, considering the dating methods used, that should be understandable.
*Engles discusses yet another aspect of the "K-Ar problem."
"The K-Ar dating of more than one mineral from a single rock sample has often revealed widely discordant ages. Where these minerals are mutual contaminants in mineral separates, as in the system biotite-hornblende, mixed ages will result, and these will always tend toward apparent concordance. The 'true' ages of the pure end-member of such mixtures may be very different from the mixed ages. It is not uncommon to find situations where purity levels of 95% or more do not suffice to give geologically meaningful ages. The effects of sample purity on discordant mineral ages can be evaluated and limits determined for the ages of the theoretical mineral components."—*Joan C. Engles, "Effects of Sample Purity on Discordant Mineral Ages Found in K-Ar Dating," Journal of Geology, 79:609 (1971).
* Hayatsu explains why it is so easy to work with potassium/argon dating: simply trash the discordant dates.
"In conventional interpretations of K-Ar age data, it is common to discard ages which are substantially too high a too low compared with the rest of the group or with other available data, such as the geological time scale. The discrepancies between the rejected and the accepted are arbitrarily attributed to excess or loss of
argon."—*A. Hayatsu, "K-Ar Isochron Age of the North Mountain Basalt, Nova Scotia," Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences, 16:974 (1979).
This is what happens when samples of rock from a single source are repeatedly tested with the potassium 40/argon 40 (K-Ar) method:
"The fossil skull known as 1470 was found by Richard Leakey in 1972 in Kenya. It has proved a difficult skull to date. When Leakey made his find, he believed the skull was about 2.6 million years old. So he sent samples of the rock in which 1470 was found to Cambridge, England, for dating. Tests on these first samples gave an average age not of 2.8 million years, but of an incredible 221 million years! This was more than 218 million years too great!
"Scientists who did the dating decided the rock they had tested must have been contaminated. So Leakey sent more samples. From these the scientists chose crystals that seemed fresher than others, and they came up with an age of 2.4 million years. (They later adjusted this to 2.6 million years, plus or minus 26,000 years, which agreed well with Leakey's belief before dating tests began).
"But dating work on the rock did not stop there. More samples were taken. More tests were done. Results this time ranged from 290,000 years up to 19.5 million years!
"Trying to bring some sense to the results, paleomagnetic determinations were begun. Leakey's 1470 fossil was then given an age of 3 million years.
"But this drew opposition from paleontologists who said it conflicted with the age of animal fossils from the region. Then Dr. Garniss Curtis, from the University of California at Berkeley, said his potassium/argon tests dated the rock at 1.8 million years."— "1470 Skull and Radiometric Dating," Ex Nihilo, 8:9, September 1988.
Because radio-dating methods are based on assumptions, some of which are incorrect and all of which are unverifiable,—they yield dates which conflict with one another. Fossil-bearing sedimentary strata dating is nothing more than a 19th century set of theorized dates. Putting the two together provides quite a challenge for the scientific community. Here is what authorities in the field have to say about the matter:
Efforts to radio-date the sedimentary strata have not proven to be the help that was originally expected of them:
"It is obvious that radiometric techniques may not be the absolute dating methods that they are claimed to be. Age estimates on a given geological stratum by different radiometric methods are often quite different (sometimes by hundreds of millions of years). There is no absolutely reliable long-term radiological 'clock.'"—*William Stansfield, The Science of Evolution, p. 84 (1977).
"The most reasonable age" for the strata is that which is in agreement with the 100-year-old strata theory of datings. Radio-dating conclusions must, in one way or another, be wrested into agreement with the proper age dates or they are not usable.
"The most reasonable age can be selected only after careful consideration of independent geochronologic data as well as field, stratigraphic and paleontolic evidence, and the petrographic and paragenetic relations. . In an effort to evaluate a discordant age sequence, therefore, the data are adjusted in one of several ways.. until the lead-uranium and lead-lead ages are in agreement."—*L It Stieff, *T.W. Stern and *R.N. Eichler, "Algebraic and Graphic Methods for Evaluating Discordant Lead Isotope Ages," U.S.G.S. Professional Paper 414-E, 1963, E-1.
Radiodating conclusions must agree with the fossil-dating theory; if not, they are thrown out:
"The internal consistency demonstrated above is not a sufficient test of the accuracy of the age determinations; they must also be consistent within any age constraints placed on intrusion by fossils in the country rocks."—*I. S. Williams, *W. Compton, *B. W. Chapell and *T. Shirahause, "Rubidium-Strontium Age Determinations of Micas," in the Journal of the Geological Society of Australia, Vol. 22, No. 4, 1975, p. 502.
Fossils are used to date the rocks and the rocks date the fossils. What can be the value of such a method of dating past ages? *Ager writes about his disappointment when physicists say that strata are dated radiometrically. He said that he could think of no cases where radioactive decay methods are used to date fossils. (See *D. Ager, "Fossil Frustrations," New Scientist, November 10, 1983, p. 425.) Here was a radiodating sample that had to be trashed because it did not agree with the fossil-dating theory:
"The Mississippian age for sample NS-45 cannot be correct because it is grossly inconsistent with the stratigraphic position of the laves."—*C. M. Carmichael and *H. C., Palmer, "Paleomagnetism of the Late Triassic North Mountain Basalt of Nova Scotia, "in the Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 73, 1968, p. 2813.
Recently-extruded volcanic rocks yield extremely wild radiodatings, but the application of theories regarding fossil-bearing strata above and below those rocks, and theories regarding geomagnetic reversals will solve the problem: simply throw away the test results which do not agree with the classical strata theory.
"This is an inherent uncertainty in dating young volcanic rocks: anomalies may be detected only by stratigraphic consistency tests, independent dating techniques, and comparison with the known time scale of geomagnetic reversals during the last 5 million years (Cox 1969)." —*R.L Armstrong, "Late Cenozoic McMurdo Group and Dry Valley Glacial History, Victoria Land, Antarctica, " in the New Zealand Journal of Geology and Geophysics, Vol. 21, 1978, p.692.
Some field geologists are not happy with a situation in which radiodating results vary so widely from fossil-dating theories.
"Much still remains to be learned of the interpretation of isotopic ages, and the realization that the isotopic age is not necessarily the geologic age of a rock has led to an over-skeptical attitude by some field geologists."— *O.E. Brown and *JA Miller, "Interpretation of Isotopic Ages in Orogenic Belts," in the Geological Society of London Special, No. 3 1969, p. 137
Radioactive dating yields such discordant results that its test conclusions would be totally useless if it were not for the fact that the fossil-dating theory is used as a measure of which radioactive dates might somehow be brought into line and which should be discarded.
"Structure, metamorphism, sedimentary reworking and other complications have to be considered. Radiometric dating would not have been feasible if the geologic column had not been erected first . . The axiom that no process can measure itself means that there is no absolute time, but this relic of the traditional mechanics persists in the common distinction between 'relative' and 'absolute' age."—*J.E. O'Rourke, "Pragmatism versus Materialism in Stratigraphy, " American Journal of Science, Vol. 276, January 1976, p. 54.
"Paleontological dating" is another name for the 100-year-old fossil-dating theory. Here is a clear statement of the problem:
"Paleontological dating of rocks is by far the most important and determinative method of dating, and yet it should be obvious that its validity depends entirely upon the assumption of evolution. Other methods are also used (e.g. radioactive dating), but these are secondary methods, as is obvious from the fact that, when contradictions between methods occur (and this is quite frequently) the paleontological dates always govern. That the paleontological method is based primarily on evolution is evident from the tact that the frequent anomalous sequences found in local columns must always be corrected in some way to conform to the standard column; otherwise the order of evolution of one region would have to be different from that in another region.''—H. M. Morris, W. W. Boardman, and R. F. Koontz, Science and Creation (1971), p. 25.
Carbon 14 dating was looked upon as a wonderful solution to many dating problems when it was first developed. But it has since been found to be riddled with many inconsistencies, and based upon a surprising number of unworkable uniformity assumptions. Again, we will let the experts speak:
Even today the assumed C-14 values are changing:
"It seems probable that the present-day inventory of natural C-14 [the amount of carbon 14 now naturally occurring in the atmosphere] does not correspond to the equilibrium value, but is increasing."—*Hens E. Suess, "Secular Variations in the Cosmic-Ray Produced Carbon 14 in the Atmosphere and their Interpretations, " Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 70, December 1, 1985, p. 5947.
Earlier changes in magnetic shielding would work havoc with radiocarbon dating results.
"It most certainly would ruin some of our carefully developed methods of dating things from the past .
"If the level of carbon-14 was less in the past, due to a greater magnetic shielding from cosmic rays, then our estimates of the time that has elapsed since the life of the organism will be too long."— *Science Digest, December 1960, p. 18.
Dates assigned to shell-fish remains vary by large amounts.
"Errors of shell radiocarbon dates may be as large as several thousand years."—*Science, August 18, 1863, p. 834.
Radiocarbon specimen amounts are measured, then dates are assigned on the basis of assumptions about conditions in the past.
"Throughout the conference (of radiocarbon experts) emphasis was placed on the fact that laboratories do not measure ages, they measure sample activities. The connection between activity and age is made through a set of assumptions . . one of the main assumptions of C-14 dating is that the atmospheric radiocarbon level has held steady over the age-range to which the method applies."—*Science, December 10, 1965, p. 1490.
The large amount of carbon that is now locked up in oil, petroleum, and fossils in the rock strata, indicates that atmospheric carbon dioxide prior to the Flood could have been much greater.
"This loss [of carbon dioxide from the air] is relatively minor today. On the other hand it would be especially large during a period such as the Carboniferous when there were extensive marshes and shallow seas. At the end of the Carboniferous the atmospheric carbon dioxide content may have been reduced to a very low level because of the tremendous quantities that has been used in the newly formed coal and oil deposits." —*G. N. Plass, "Carbon Dioxide and the Climate," in American Scientist, Vol. 44, July 1956, p. 313.
Carbon 14 dating does not agree with tree ring dating.
"A comparison of radiocarbon dates obtained from Egyptian archeological samples and from contemporary tree growth-rings shows significant discrepancies over an extended period of time."—David J. Tyler, "Crisis in Radiocarbon Calibration," Creation Research Society Quarterly, September 1977, p. 92.
Careful analysis of the discrepancies between the two indicates that both C-14 and tree-ring dating are flawed.
"The discrepancy between the bristlecone-pine-calibrated Egyptian radiocarbon dates and the historical dates for Ancient Egypt from 1900-600 B.C. carries with it the implication that, within the error limits discussed, both chronological systems are incorrect."— *R.M. Clark and *C. Renkew, "Tree-ring Calibration of Radiocarbon Dates and the Chronology of Ancient Egypt," in Nature, 243(5405):266-270.
Glaciation dating theories do not agree with radiocarbon dating results.
"All calculations of radiocarbon dates have been made on the assumption that the amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide has remained constant. If the theory presented here of carbon dioxide variations in the atmosphere is correct, then the reduced carbon dioxide dates for events before the recession of the glaciers are in question."—*G. N. Plass, "Carbon Dioxide and the Climate," in American Scientist, Vol. 44, July 1956, p.314.
Red deer antlers with like ages, yielded radiocarbon dates that varied by as much as 300 years.
"Picks [for digging], made from the antlers of red deer, and supposed to be about 4,000 years old, were found in the remains of Neolithic flint mines, at Grimes' Graves, Norfolk, England. The ages for the antlers indicated by the carbon 14 varied over a range of about 300 years. But from other evidence it was concluded that the picks all belonged within a few years of one another."—News note, Creation Research Society Quarterly, June 1977, p. 70.
Radiocarbon dating theories are heavily based on continuous uniformity of carbon dioxide balances in the atmosphere. Yet such uniformity does not exist.
"There is strong indication, despite the large errors, that the present natural production rate exceeds the natural decay rate by as much as 25% . . It appears that equilibrium in the production and decay of carbon 14 may not be maintained in detail."—*Richard E. Ungenfelter, "Production of C-14 by Cosmic X-Ray Neutrons," Reviews of Geophysics, Vol., 1, February 1963, p. 51.
Live sea shells, uncontaminated by modern radioactive fallout, gave varied C-14 ages ranging from 440 to 750 years!
"The mean apparent radiocarbon ages of marine shells, collected alive before the initiation of atomic bomb testing, and also before the main input of dead carbon derived from fossil fuels, are found to be 440 yrs. [years] for the coast of Norway, 510 yrs. for Spitzbergen, and 750 yrs for Ellesmere Island, Arctic Canada."—*Jan Mangerud and *Steiner Gulliksen, "Apparent Radiocarbon Ages of Recent Marine Shells from Norway, Spitzbergen, and Arctic Canada," Quaternary Research, 5:263 (1975).
Living trees as being 10,000 years old!
"Living trees near an airport were dated as 10,000 years old with C-14, because the wood contained contamination from airplane exhaust."—Erech A. von Fange, "Time Upside Down, " in Creation Research Society Quarterly, June 1974, p. 18.
Carbon 14 dating of modern snail shells in Nevada are dated at 27,000 years!
"Carbon-14 contents as low as 3.3 +/- [plus or minus] 0.2 percent modern [apparent age: 27,000 years] measured from the shells of snails Melanoides tuberculatus living in artesian springs in southern Nevada, are attributed to fixation of dissolved HCO3 with which the shells are in carbon isotope equilibrium."—*Alan C. Riggs, "Major Carbon-14 Deficiency in Modem Snail Shells from Southern Nevada Springs," Science, 224:58 (1984).
How to get rid of discordant C-14 dates: simply throw out the ones you do not want.
"Six radiocarbon ages have been determined for organic carbon through the core [of material obtained from the Chukchi Sea off the coast of Alaska]. These ages, which range from 4,390 + /210 to 15,500 +/- x 800 years B.P. [before the present], are so disarranged that no consecutive dates are juxtaposed, and the oldest age determinative is from the 2.88-to-3.40 meter interval.
This disarrangement of radiocarbon ages suggests that the delta sediments are to some degree composed of recycled sediment. By disregarding the 15,500 + /- 800-year age as being inconsistent with the other radiocarbon ages, and by assuming that contamination has made the remaining dates too old by about the same amount that the radiocarbon age (4,390 + /- 210 years B.P.) near the top of the core exceeds usual surface sediment dates, Creager and McManus conclude that the delta was formed about 12,000 years ago."—*D.S. McCulloch, "Quaternary Geology of the Alaskan Shore of the Chukchi Sea," in David M. Hopkins (ed.), Bering Land Bridge (1967), p. 110. (Stanford.)
Careful analysis of radiocarbon datings of specimens from only the last four centuries reveals marked discrepancies. It is also an indictment of the accuracy of thorium-uranium dating for even very recent samples.
"A detailed comparison of conventional radiocarbon years with calendar years covering the past four centuries is given. [Using the excuse of] Relatively large atmospheric 14C changes cannot entirely solve the problems of age calibration. By matching radiocarbon ages with ages derived from 23OTh/234U, thermoluminescence and magnetic dating, the 14C timescale is shown to deviate by a maximum of 2,000 years over the 9,000-32,000 BP interval. "—*Minze Stuiver, "Radiocarbon Timescale Tested Against Magnetic and Other Dating Methods," Nature, 273:271 (1978).
Not even samples from a few thousand years ago in the Near East provide useful radiocarbon dates.
"A last difficulty, and at the moment one of the most frustrating, is the failure of the radiocarbon technique to yield dates of certain dependability. Although it was hailed as the answer to the prehistorian's prayer when it was first announced, there has been increasing disillusion with the method because of the chronological uncertainties (in some cases, absurdities) that would follow a strict adherence to published C14 dates. This is not to question the physical laws underlying the principle used, or the accuracy of the counters now in operation around the world; the unsolved problem, instead, seems to lie in the difficulty of securing samples completely free from either older or younger adherent carbon.
"At least to the present, no kind or degree of chemical cleaning can guarantee one-age carbon, typical only of the time of the site from which it was excavated. What bids to become a classic example of C14 irresponsibility is the 6,000-year spread of 11 determinations for Jarmo, a prehistoric village in northeastern Iraq, which, on the basis of all archeological evidence, was not occupied for more than 500 consecutive years."—*Charles A. Reed, "Animal Domestication in the Prehistoric Near East," Science, 130:1830 (1959).
J.G. Ogden 111, director of a radiocarbon dating laboratory, expressed his deep concerns about the multitude of carbon 14 problems. There are just too many unknown factors standing in the way of successful dating. Then he gives a revealing statement:
"It may come as a shock to some, but fewer than 50 percent of the radiocarbon dates from geological and archaeological samples in northeastern North America have been adopted as *acceptable* by investigators."—'J. Gordon Ogden III, "Use and Abuse of Radiocarbon Dates," Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, 288:167 (1977).
The problem is real and even worse than before realized. Six years after discovering it, Libby admitted a basic flaw in carbon-14 dating.
"In 1952, when Willard Libby first published his work on radiocarbon dating, he called attention to the critical assumption that the ratio of carbon-14 to carbon-12 has been constant. He tested that assumption by making various measurements and calculating how rapidly carbon-14 was forming and decaying. Surprisingly, carbon-14 seemed to be forming faster than it was decaying. That would mean that there was less carbon-14 in the atmosphere in the past. If we did not know that, we would falsely conclude that the lack of carbon-14 was because the missing carbon-14 had decayed through old age. Libby felt sure that his measurements must have been in error since he thought the earth was so old that a balance between formation and decay must exist. Recently, others have duplicated Libby's measurements with much greater accuracy. They have concluded that the out-of-balance condition is real and even worse than Libby believed."—Walter T. Brown, In the Beginning (1989), p. 96.
Radiocarbon dating just does not yield the accurate dates that it ought to provide us with, even when applied to Near Eastern archaeological specimens.
"A last difficulty, and at the moment one of the most frustrating, is the failure of the radiocarbon technique to yield dates of certain dependability. Although it was hailed as the answer to the prehistorian's prayer when it was first announced, there has been increasing disillusion with the method because of the chronological uncertainties (in some cases, absurdities) that would follow a strict adherence to published C-14 dates. This is not to question the physical laws underlying the principle used, or the accuracy of the counters now in operation around the world; the unsolved problem, instead, seems to lie in the difficulty of securing samples completely free from either older or younger adherent carbon.
"At least to the present, no kind or degree of chemical cleaning can guarantee one-age carbon, typical only of the time of the site from which it was excavated. What bids to become a classic example of C-14 irresponsibility is the 6,000-year spread of 11 determinations for Jarmo, a prehistoric village in northeastern Iraq, which, on the basis of all archeological evidence, was not occupied for more than 500 consecutive years. "— "Charles A. Reed, "Animal Domestication in the Prehistoric Near East," Science, 130:1630 (1959).
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Friday Sketch Challenge
This Friday's sketch challenge was rather fun. It takes very simple layers, and gives you a fun opportunity to showcase some of that designer series paper you have collected. It also gave me the chance to use the Mint Macaron Glimmer Paper and 3/8 Metallic Duo Ribbon from the Sale-a-Bration catalogs.
Cutting & Measurments.
Base: Whisper White 5 1/2" x 4 1/4"
Layer 1: Tip Top Taupe 5 3/8" x 4 1/8"
Layer 2: Blooms and Bliss Designer Series Paper 5 1/4" x 4", cut again lengthwise at 1 1/2" and flipped to show both sides.
Layer 3: Mint Macaron 4 1/4" x 3 1/4"
Layer 4: Whisper White 4" x 3"
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This is my Stamping Bee Friday Sketch Challenge card. It uses a very basic layout, and I chose to dress it up with some watercoloring and copper embossing powder. Although it still uses the same Lift Me Up bundle and Carried Away Paper that I've used all week, this is a much softer and more subtle approach.
Cutting and Measuring:
Base: Whisper White Thick Card stock 5 1/2" x 4 1/4"
Layer 1: Carried Away Designer Series Paper 5 1/2" x 4 1/4" (I covered the entire base)
Layer 2: Mint Macaron Card stock 4 1/4" x 3 1/4"
Layer 2: Whisper White Card stock 4" x 3"
This acrylic block watercoloring technique is pretty cool.
Birthday's call for something extra special. And a fun fold, like a quick and easy gate fold card, is a great place to start. I love the addition of a belly band, or belt on this card, too. The band slides off, and the card opens like a special present.
I'm really trying to build up my collection of masculine birthday cards and the Carried Away paper with the Lift Me Up bundle is the perfect combination. Stampin' Up! really thought of everything when they created this perfect combination.
*Cutting & Measurement:
Base: Night of Navy 5 1/2" x 8 1/2" , Scored at 2 3/8" on either side.
Panel Layers: Carried Away Designer Series Paper 5 3/8" x 2 1/8"
Band: Whisper White 9 1/2" x 1 1/4"
Inside Panel: Whisper White 5" x 3 3/4"
Putting it All Together
1. Adhere panels to the card base. I like to use Tombow Liquid Glue in case I need to make any last minute placement adjustments.
2. Stamp inside panel and adhere with Fast Fuse.
3. Burnish the score lines with your bone folder.
4. Wrap band around the card, using your bone folder to crease the edges. Adhere back tabs together with fast fuse.
5. Add hot air balloon, or other focal point onto the band using dimensionals.
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Ice Cream Week Sketch Challenge
Happy Friday! Every Friday, I post a sketch challenge for all members of my Stamping Bee Team. It's just one of the many fun benefits that come when you join my Stamping Bee Team! I thought I'd finish up ice cream week with a trio of 'sweets'.
You always see a demonstrator's finished project. What you don't see are all the mistakes and cards that don't turn out quite the way we planned. So, I wanted to show you these three and give you the background on how I arrived at my favorite. (Which one do you think it is?)
I started with this one. I wanted my Cool Treats ice cream cone to reflect the cones show in the lower layer of Tasty Treats Designer Series Paper. I stamped the background piece of Whisper White Card Stock with sprinkles and strawberries from the Cool Treats Stamp Set. The cone is actually a piece of Tasty Treats Paper, cut out with theFrozen Treats die, which also leaves a patterned impression. The scoops themselves are pretty cool. Check them out:
I used my aqua painter and brushed some water across a piece of Shimmery White Card Stock. Then, I stamped my ink colors (from bottom: Wild Wasabi, Watermelon Wonder, Peekaboo Peach, and Pool Party) on the damp paper and let it dry before cutting it out with the die. The Shimmery White Card Stock holds up well to water coloring, and stamping the ink gave it a softer, more muted blend. The shimmer is a bit difficult to see here, but it is lovely in the light.
Next, using the popsicle paper, I wanted a larger popsicle as my focal point. But it was too small for such a large piece of paper, so I added some background texture using the fun dots found in the Dragonfly Dream Stamp Set.
You can't see in the photo because of the light, but I outlined the "You're" and the shadow on the popsicle with my Clear Wink of Stella Glitter Brush for extra sparkle.
Finally, I used glossy strawberries and cherries paper and created a scrumptious strawberry ice cream cone. The darker shadows are again brushed with the Clear Wink of Stella Glitter Brush.
If you guessed this third card is my favorite, you're right! Even though they're all "sweet", this is the yummiest.
Would you like to play along with this week's Stamping Bee Sketch Challenge? Here are the measurements you need. Then, post a picture of your card in the comments below. I'm sure they'll all be just as "sweet" as can be. Happy Stammping!
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You're the Cherry to my Sundae
Rain or Shine, it's always time for ice cream! These cool colors today remind me when all the Lad would eat was Mint Chocolate Chip ice cream. With lots and lots of sprinkles!
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Cutting and Measurement:
Base: Mint Macron 8 1/2" x 5 1/2", scored at 4 1/4"
Layer 1: Whisper White 5 1/4" x 4"
Layer 2: Tasty Treats Designer Series Paper 5" x 3 3/4", cut at 2 1/2" and one piece flipped, using both sides of the paper
Layers 3 & 4 are using the Layering Circles framelits
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