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Considering going with friends on a Baltic cruise in May 2017. Wife and I aren't cruise or organized tour people. We much prefer independent travel ... have done a lot. The people we'd go with like cruises. We're open to try it once. We're very active/good physical shape mid 70's ... our travel style would more fit someone in their 20's - 30's.
1. What Baltic cruise companies would you prefer? (Our default would be Viking, but open to others.)
2. Most times in port seem short. Are there others with more days in ports?
In any case, we'll tack on a week or two to our trip at one end or the other for some independent exploration.
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Baltic Cruise?
Considering going with friends on a Baltic cruise in May 2017. Wife and I aren't cruise or organized tour people. We much prefer independent travel ... have done a lot. The people we'd go with like cruises. We're open to try it once. We're very active/good physical shape mid 70's ... our travel style would more fit someone in their 20's - 30's.
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We did a cruise with Celebrity from/to Amsterdam and enjoyed it very much.
Most Baltic ports are easy to visit. E.g. Oslo, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Helsinki, Talinn are ports where you just walk into town, maybe after a short bus or taxi transfer from the dock into the city center. One day will be sufficient for these ports.
The main challenge - and the cruise's climax - is Sankt Petersburg. Most cruise ships stay for two days in this port and I would not accept a shorter stay.
Sankt Petersburg is almost impossible to travel independently, because the ship docks in the industrial port and you are not allowed to pass the customs gates without having a tour ticket.
The best thing what you can do is booking a local tour operator. For half the price of a ship's excursion, you will get a VIP tour which is fantastic, whatever operator you choose. The price drops if you find other passengers willing to share a minibus (use the roll call on cruisecritic).
In addition to the usual tour, we booked an evening transfer to the Marinskii Theatre with a fantastic opera performance.
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Very easy to travel independently in St Pet - just don;t go on a cruise. We've been by ourselves twice and loved it.
If I were you I would take the cruise only as far as St Pet and make your own arrangements there - I would reco at least 6 nights there.
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IMO -- and it is one that, I believe, is decidedly up to one's personal call! -- is that the time allowed on shore on these cruises is FAR too limited. With the possible exception of "semester-abroad" cruises, I have never seen a cruise that allowed sufficient time on land to do more than see a highlight or two.
And of course, dashing about to see just one or two things can lead to some very odd (and distorted) impressions of a place.
I am well aware that at some point in my life, I might need to switch to cruises as a way to deal with the limitations that come with age. My personal choice is to defer making that switch as long as I can! JMO....
I'm not sure I understand traveller1959's comments -- perhaps the reference to "ease" has to do with convenience, rather than the ease of seeing one's priorities while in the area? I certainly did not think a part of one day sufficient for Copenhagen, Stockholm, or Helsinki. (I haven't visited Oslo or Talinn yet.) And I found it challenging to see everything that I wanted to see in Saint Petersburg into a "mere" 6 full days.... If it matters, I didn't use a tour or tour guide for ANY of these locations.
Good luck!
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kja and nytraveler: you are comparing apples and oranges.
You are absolutely right that a cruise is a completely different experience than a city trip.
I have done both to Sankt Petersburg and to Copenhagen (as well as to other cities) and you are right that a single day in port gives you just a quick impression of a city. The advantage of a cruise is that you see 5 or 6 destinations in 7 days without the hassle of packing and unpacking and travelling between destinations. So, both types of trips cannot be compared.
If OP has decided to go on a cruise, then he/she can easily visit most cities because the city centres are walkable. In most ports, you take a short bus or cab ride into the centre and then you start walking. Or you can even walk from the dock into the city.
Sankt Petersburg cannot be visited independently from a cruise ship because the cruise ship docks in the industrial harbour which is gated. You need a visa to go through the gates OR the invitation of a tour operator. Most cruise ship passengers do not have a visa, so they need to book a tour. There are several companies offering such tours and all of them are MUCH better and MUCH cheaper than the cruise ship's tours. That is all I wanted to say.
I agree that flying into Sankt Petersburg, staying there for four or five days and discovering the city independently is the better way to see this city which I consider as one of the world's most beautiful cities at all.
Actually, I would even dare to recommend to fly only to Sankt Petersburg rather than going on a Baltic cruise with many ports of call. But it is a matter of travelling style. I have done both and both were fine.
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Well if they have 2 weeks no reason to do just St Pet - there is time to also see Stockholm and Copenhagen as well - if you fly (or train from S to C).
But yes, this is a completely different trip that an cruise - which you couldn't pay me to do. Just keeps you too isolated from the places you are visiting.
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I've visited all those places happily without a cruise. While, like kja, I suspect cruises may be in my future, I would not do a Baltic cruise at this point, and from your description it sounds like you will be disappointed if you try it. Can you talk your cruise-minded friends into trying something else? Or how about meeting up with them at strategic points and doing the rest on your own?
If you do decide to risk the cruise, you may find this helpful for tackling ports on your own:
Also, check out cruisecritic.com for info on the ship and the cruise, and for connecting with others if you do go.
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Please, forget this notorious Rick Steves. This guy has no clue of Europe. He recommends only the places which are good for his business.
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Can't see how telling you how to get from a port to the city center under your own steam instead of shelling out for an expensive cruise tour is supposed to only be about helping his business.
Not all his suggestions are good and not all are bad. You need to be selective. But to say he "has no clue about Europe" is just ridiculous.
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His maps are ridiculous.
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We did a Baltic cruise with Celebrity about two years ago (12 days late June into early July) - from London to St. Petersburg and back with stops to visit Bruges, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Tallinn and Helsinki. We were traveling with friends (two other couples) who enjoy cruising.
We, too, are active and experienced travelers, in our early and mid 60s. Not normally cruisers - but we did enjoy this trip for the most part. The stays in the port cities were short, especially having only two days in St. Petersburg, but they were all full days, and we thought we got a good taste of each of the cities. We spent two weeks in London prior to meeting our friends for the cruise - rented an apartment in the city - and thought that made the trip seem a little more like our usual mode of travel.
The ship was large enough that we always seemed to find something of interest to do - yet we had our privacy in our cabin with balcony when we wanted that. The passengers were for the most part slightly younger than we are, fairly lively, and most were European (lots from the UK). I have to admit I especially loved that we saw so many places and didn't have to pack and repack and lug our bags around.
I will also say that sailing through the archipelago into Stockholm early in the morning was one of the most beautiful travel experiences I have ever had.
All that said - you say you are looking at Viking - is it a river cruise? I know I have heard people say they were on a Baltic river cruise, although it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
If it is a river cruise, I can't speak to that itinerary, but .... we just returned from a 10-day river cruise in Holland and Belgium, and NEVER AGAIN. We booked it as a last-minute trip to see the tulips at a very attractive price which included RT airfare from the US. It wasn't Viking - it was Vantage - but from what I understand the passenger demographics of most of the mainstream river cruises are similar. It was pretty much all elderly passengers. There was little to do on board - even though it had been billed a "jazz" cruise and was a new ship. Everyone was snoozing by 8 p.m. each evening; the only time we ever saw anyone moving with any speed at all was when the dinner bell rang. Then you had to stand back or be stampeded.
We did love what we saw of the Netherlands and a few repeat places in Belgium, but the tours - which were included - were s-l-o-w, and tedious. We usually ditched the groups, but occasionally we couldn't, due to docking logistics and transportation possibilities. The other passengers, none of whom apparently had ever traveled outside an organized tour group, kept telling us how "brave" we were to leave the tour leader and head off to a museum or other part of any village or town we were in. This was in Holland, for god's sake, not in the darkest jungles of some third world country.
One night's special "live" entertainment consisted of a lip-synching group called Sgt. Wilson - it was a WWII cover group - and they thanked us for being their "liberators." Seriously, I know the folks on this cruise were old, but hey, not THAT old. I don't think most of the WWII veterans are traveling that much anymore.
We thought a river cruise would involve some beautiful scenery and being docked in great places with good views. Nope - they only moved the ship at night, and when we were docked in the cities, it was always right next to other riverboats, actually tied alongside each other, so the view out the window was directly into another boat's cabin. Worse that the view from any really cheap hotel.
Hope that sheds a little light on cruising -
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We also did the Celebrity Baltic cruise and recommend it highly. We usually travel on our own but found that the cruise was an inexpensive and efficient way to see a lot of territory. Be sure your cruise has two days in St. Petersburg. We used the ship excursions.
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The cruise we're considering is a 15 day Viking cruise ... on a small ship, not like their river cruises ... apparently a new business for them.
Our friends, who like cruises, know there's no way they'll get me on any cruise - maybe, just maybe, this one. I'm expecting to see each city like absent-mindedly looking at a 30 minute travel show. It's not my ideal (I'd REALLY enjoy the discomfort but experience of a 2nd class train trip on the Trans Manchuria). Your comments have me even more concerned about the cruise, but heh, lots of people do it, so might as well try it.
I'm a little worried that the ship is only in SP 2 days, so I presume that means arriving one morning and leaving the next afternoon. It would be great if we did have 3 days in port.
Any other cruise lines with smaller ships spend more time in port, especially SP? On the basis of a few posts will check into Celebrity. I'm really not interested in what entertainment might be on the ship or its restaurants, etc.... just what its port calls are like.
In SP, re the comments about not being able to leave the port area without going on an organized tour: Am I right in presuming that would apply only to those without a Russian visa? Since their visas seem to be good for 3 yrs, I'd be tempted to get a visa if that would allow me to wander in the short available time ... then maybe in another year returning to explore more.
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Here are a few options on cruise lines with three days in SP. I can't personally recommend any, since like you, I do not cruise yet, but some of these itineraries are really interesting.
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I may be able to tell you more in a couple of months... we are taking our first ever cruise of any type in this summer aboard the Viking Star (the Viking Homelands cruise you mentioned, elbegewa).
You should read about the arrival/departure times and the information about which ports are walkable from the pier, since Viking's ships are smaller than your average behemoth. Even though Viking offers a free tour at each port, we are opting out of even those to explore on our own at stops that will put us right in town. We booked a private tour for the two days in St Petersburg because we know very well what we want to do and how long we want to spend doing it; shopping is not a big priority for us. With a private guide and driver, we can be flexible about changing to anything that catches our interest. Of note: If you are with a licensed tour company, you do NOT have to have a visa for St Petersburg--another big plus for us. As long as you are with your guide, you can move freely about the city. We will travel to/from the palaces by hydrofoil on the river, and can make a short trip on the Metro. which is supposed to be quite spectacular. Picture us trying to arrange either on our own. Not.
We are in our late 60s but "mostly" physically active, although my sister and I would not be up for walking long distances without stopping. We accordingly signed up for some of the cruise tours that did exactly what we wanted, simply because it will be guaranteed to fit into the port times, we won't have to fight with other sightseers for tickets or seats anywhere, we have admittance to many opportunities that are not normally available to tourists, and the Viking shore excursions are mostly small groups. For example, there will be only 50 people on the "Norway in a Nutshell" excursion (Flambana railway/fjord cruise/lunch at Stalheim Hotel). Our husbands are doing the half-day, 2-man kayak trip through the 12 harbors of Tallinn while my sister and I make chocolates at an historic candymaker's shop (to take and enjoy later, of course).
As we lived in Europe for many years, we have a pretty good idea of what to avoid and what to take advantage of... probably the only reason we now feel comfortable on a cruise. But I'll be happy to let you know how it goes, if you're interested!
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2 days in Sankt Petersburg can be okay if you book a private VIP tour. They pick you up with a minivan in the morning directly at the vessel (compared to the cruise ship excursions, you save the first hour), then they guide you through the main attractions.
Your guide will know when to go where to avoid crowding and waiting times. Often, you will skip lines. Sometimes, they will lead you through secret entrances. In the Eremitage, our guide led our ladies even to a secret restroom, because the normal ladies restrooms were crowded. You don't waste (like the passengers on the cruise ship excursion) hours for mediocre lunch and shopping at souvenir stores.
They drop you off at the vessel in the late afternoon. You may take a shower, dinner on the cruise ship, dress up and then they pick you up again at the ship to drive you to the Marinskii Theatre where you will see a most stunning opera or ballet performance. After the show, they bring you back to the ship.
The next day the same procedure (without the theatre).
There are several companies that offer such VIP tours. The general roule is, you pay half the price and see twice as much compared to the excursions offered by the cruise ship companies.
The cruisecritic roll calls are often used to find other passengers to share a private tour, then it becomes even more economical.
There are several companies offering private tours, like Anastasia, Red October, Alla Tours, DenRus and many more. There are also private guides who are even less expensive. For further reading:
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@Traveller1959: thanks, that's the sort of advice I was hoping for.
I chafe at the idea of big organized tours, and had been considering getting a standard Russian tourist visa to avoid them. But this article presents a great option. A few years ago on an independent trip to China we used independent guides in various cities and found that to be a great way of finding out more than we would have likely discovered on our own.
Since cruises aren't my thing (I travel to experience places, not to enjoy being cooped up and pampered on a ship) I haven't looked at cruisecritic, but after reading this article, will look at it more.
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@FlaAnn Yes!!! Thanks!! Be sure to let us know after your trip. Although we are in our 70's we're very active (ski, hike, bike, kayak). Having not done much study yet for 2017, I had presumed in many of the ports we'd just look for a bike rental place and bike around.
Because of the people we are going with we will probably default to a few of the ship excursions, so would be highly interested in your comments on them.
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Since you said that cruises are not your thing but you will going on one, let me write a few words about cruises.
I have always been the independent, adventurous traveller and I am still. When I was invited to join a cruise some 20 years ago, I was very skeptical. Three weeks in a tin can? Hopping from port to port for a couple of hours in each port?
To make it short, I thoroughly enjoyed my first cruise and have been on a dozen more cruises since then, including a Baltic cruise, but still travelling independently. Cruises are a different type of travelling, with some disadvantages and some advantages.
First, the advantages:
Cruises are like wine tastings. You get a little taste of each port, but it is just a taste, not a whole bottle. But you will taste a larger number of ports than it would be possible by travelling independently.
On a Baltic cruise, you will see Oslo, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Helsinki, Sankt Petersburg, Talinn and a few more ports within 10 days or so. Travelling independently would require a lot of flying or taking ferries between these destinations, so you would pick only two or three of them and lose a considerable portion of your precious time for checking in and checking out, transportation and waiting at gates.
On a cruise, you will be transported during the night to your next destination while you are enjoying a multi-course dinner, an after-dinner drink at a bar and sleeping comfortably in your cabin. And the morning, you will find yourself in a different city.
The downside of a cruise is that the cruise ship companies, while often offering cruises for bargain prices, are very inventive to pull the money from your credit card account.
One of the methods is ridiculously overpriced beverages, especially when considering that the ships stock themselves tax-free. Develop your own strategies to deal with this.
But most of their revenue the cruise ship companies earn with shore excursions. It starts with the brochure and website that lists all these excursions. Some of them will lead you to outright tourist traps. Some of them lead you to uninteresting places but are advertised as once-in-a-lifetime experiences. Some of them are really good. And a few of them lead you to places which would be inaccessible if you would try to do it on your own.
But ALL shore excursions are grossly overpriced. Often, you will find on the pier where the ship docks exactly the same excursions, offered by local operators, at half the price.
In 98 per cent of these excursions, you are herded into a bus, out of the bus, to the restroom stop, into the souvenir store (your guide gets commission!) and into a mediocre restaurant for lunch. Up to 50 per cent of a shore excursion is nothing but a waste of time. And money.
So, the independent traveller in me usually avoids shore excursions. For most Baltic cities, I would recommend just walking through town, maybe taking a taxi to a more distant destination. If you share the taxi fare by four passengers, it becomes dirt cheap. Often, we would rent a car in a port of call and explore the area on our own (on our Baltic cruise, we did this in Klaipeda).
Sankt Petersburg is a special case. We have written about it.
In order to decide what to do and what not to do in each port of call, the cruisecritic forums are an invaluable resource. Also, browse the "cruises" forum here on Fodor's. And read guidebooks about your destinations.
Researching in advance will save you a lot of $$$, will help you to make the best of your trip and is part of the fun and anticipation.
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elbegwa, I will be glad to! traveler1959 is on target with many suggestions, although some don't apply to Viking. I think we will have a nice mixture of taking the ship's shore excursions, going on our own, and hiring a private guide/driver, so should be able to tell you more when we return home. We are especially looking forward to the ports in Norway through some of the western fjords, and are arriving a couple of days early to Bergen to explore there on our own.
We booked two days with Anastasia in St Petersburg based on several reviews, including the very detailed one at oceancruisenewbie.com/2015/06/on-board-and-happy-to-be-here/. That's an entertaining blog from yet another first-time ocean cruiser, aboard the Viking Star last year (its first year in service) and complete with photos. Her commentary about some of the ports may give you additional insight. We have been extremely pleased with the responsiveness of Anastasia, allowing us to set our own itinerary and answering emails almost instantly (I don't know when they sleep).
We particularly like the amenities offered by Viking, with a mini-fridge stocked with free drinks/snacks daily (in all but the lowest category cabin), a veranda for every room, free spa access (with its "snow grotto" and sauna... how Nordic), and homey library feel with books everywhere. Also like the free wine/beer with meals and that Viking encourages passengers to BYOB from local ports!
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@traveller1959 & @ FlaAnn
Thanks for both of your suggestions. I really enjoyed reading the various posts by ukalady that FlaAnn referenced, both for the writing style and especially for the info.
We'll definitely check into independent tours in Saint Petersburg. In most of the other places will check into independent bike rentals if possible, or just exploring on our own. In Flam will check into whether we can independently arrange rail ticket as opposed to the ship tour on it.
Question to all: we'd go next May (2017) (being from Seattle we're used to the the Baltic's May weather). Would mid Oct. this year be a good* time to book on Viking? or better later or earlier? *good being a good balance between price/available offers and reservation availability
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The weather in Northern Europe is never predictable. October will definitly be on the cool side. It may be sunny, it may be rainy, but certainly not warm. And daylight hours tend to become short.
In May, it may be sunny, it may be rainy, but if the sun shines, it will be warm. And long daylight hours.
If May or October is the choice, I would clearly go for May.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear ... we're looking at going in May ... but would prefer to wait to wait til October to make reservations for a number of reasons, if that's not too late to reserve.
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That's one of the issues with Viking--their ocean cruises tend to sell out pretty far in advance. They brought on their second ship (Viking Sea) this year and a third was just floated out to go into service in 2017 (Viking Sky). That may help meet the demand, although I just took a quick look at their website, and several of the lowest priced cabins for the Viking Homelands cruises in May 2017 are already booked, both on the Stockholm to Bergen route and Bergen to Stockholm. There are only two sailings left on two ships in June 2017, which should give you an indication of the demand.
As a result, you'll have to decide when to pull the trigger and which category of cabin you want from what's available. I can tell you that the "sale prices" and "$1,000 off airfare per person" offer is pretty much permanent, from what I can tell. But I suppose that could change at any time. Also, cabin availability does not seem to vary from booking it yourself to booking through a travel agent. I can also tell you that the Viking Sea (the second ship) was delayed in service and they were having to reschedule cruisers who'd booked voyages on it. So just a hint about booking an early cruise on the Sky. We made our own flight reservations and did better than their deals. Also our own travel insurance through AmEx.
It's a little aggravating to have to book and pay for cruises so far in advance, especially since I've had some health issues the past few years. We started talking and planning in November, but people (including us) were just catching on that Viking had ocean-going ships. Now the word is out, and with all the accolades and awards it won in 2015, things keep booking up even with the new ships. You should take a look at the dates and pricing for the May cruises--they're all laid out on their website: www.vikingcruises.com/oceans/ and click on "Cruises." Best of luck with whatever you decide. I will post my thoughts about the trip regardless.
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elbegewa, as promised, here is my recommendation on taking a Baltic cruise (Viking Homelands) with the new Viking Ocean line: do it, do it, do it!
We just returned home from our cruise and we are having a hard time adjusting to reality. Loved everything about it, and while we were on board, the captain announced that we were celebrating the 1-year anniversary of the Ocean Star while on board, and that Viking Ocean had also just won a 2016 Travel and Leisure "World's Best" award.
You may recall we (4 adults) had never cruised anywhere, so we had some skepticism about the experience. That was easily laid to rest by Viking.
I'm not sure where 900+ passengers were, but we saw very few of them except in the World Cafe, which is like a cafeteria. For some reason (maybe unlimited food choices?) many people actually preferred that dining. There were several occasions where I was the only person in the beautiful Wintergarden. Even the recliners lining the windows outside the room (which had a tasteful and very restful fountain sculpture) were virtually empty. The recliners and couches had blankets so you could relax and watch the scenery glide by, especially nice in the archipelago outside Stockholm.
The spa (free, as opposed to every other cruise I've heard of) never had more than 2 other people in it... and we used it a lot. Even tried the snow grotto and steam room, although the large heated pool with jets and the hot tub were our favorites. The tile lounges in a quiet nook looked uncomfortable (I mean, tile?) but were actually wonderful--heated--I fell asleep in one. Pillowed lounges were elsewhere around the pool. There is an indoor pool as well as the infinity pool outside on the stern, but the spa facilities was our favorite!
We were suspicious of shore excursions, have always been a travel-on-our-own group, but we signed up for 4, only 1 of which was the free shore excursion offered at all ports. I have nothing bad to say about that one, which was in Stockholm. All the guides we had were excellent and the buses luxurious. Two of our tours were cancelled... one by us, one by Viking (the kayak tour of Tallinn's 12 harbors) due to weather. No problems doing that on-board, the refund went to our ship account, which was fine with us. We contracted with Anastasia for St Petersburg based on the recommendations from the blog by Ukalady and were very happy that we did. Severe weather kept us out of port so that we missed an entire day (as did 4 other cruise ships behind us), but Anastasia snatched us up at 7:00 a.m. (we were the first people off the ship) and ran our legs off all over the area: city tour, Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood, Metro ride, Hermitage (through 4 buildings to see the specific highlights we requested, while the people going independent waited in a line around the block to get in), then out the door and onto the hydrofoil to Peterhof, and back to St Isaacs Cathedral to wrap up the day. Our fabulous guide didn't even stop for lunch: we had snacks and bottled water waiting for us in our van, driven by a guy after my own heart, who duked it out with all the traffic trying to slow us down, and won every time. Lol. And then they offered us a refund for part of the cost, since we missed the first day. Do not even consider seeing St Petersburg independently, whatever company you choose. It cost us hundreds less to use Anastasia than the ship's offered excursions, and we would have seen far less due to the unwieldiness of being in a large group, in the rain (so had to fight to the head of the line to leave coats and umbrellas in the cloakroom at the Hermitage, a requirement).
We walked and toured and did what we wanted at all other stops except for the ship's excursion to the Stalheim hotel via the Flam railway (Norway in a Nutshell), and the ones we took to Lubeck and Wismar from the port at Warnemunde, and the tour of Malbork Castle we did from Gdansk. We are so glad we did all of those! We could have ridden the Flam railway on our own, possibly (although one was fully booked by cruise passengers), but we would not have traveled to the Voss open air farm museum, with buildings from the 1600s that were in use until the 1920s, and we could not have gotten to the Stalheim, where we had lunch and was something I particularly wanted to do. We could not have seen the Teutonic castle of Malbork and it is really worth a visit (largest in the world by surface area), plus our guide and driver, seeing traffic jams ahead, took us out and back on different country roads and gave us the opportunity to see some beautiful scenery, Polish farms and historic villages, as well as showing us all the massive stork nests on chimney tops and even light poles that are in the area. We could have gotten to Lubeck and Wismar on our own by train, but we again traveled through beautiful German countryside (I'm not a city girl) with our young guide, who was raised locally and attends graduate school in Wismar. He had a lot of explanations for how things were in the East before reunification, and how things are working now, both good and bad. It was nice to hear from him his first-hand experiences; even though he was young when the walls came down, he has clear memories of what was happening. We also got to have lunch in a "marzipan factory" in Lubeck, which we would never have found on our own... upstairs above the candy factory. And even if we had found it, we never would have gotten the little box of tidily-wrapped marzipan chocolate hearts we each received as we left! Beautiful towns, both of them! And such a better alternative than a 3-hour bus trip to Berlin (also a free excursion, but we've been there several times while we lived in Germany).
So here's what I'd say: Do it! The ship is wonderful, the service unbelievable, the food fabulous, and you can do as much or as little as you'd like ashore. We had one day at sea and again, I don't know where 900+ people were that day! We ate primarily at the Chef's Table (5-course set menu with wine pairings, changed every 3 days) and at The Restaurant (very elegant but with a fine menu of choices you could mix-and-match, including options for local fare from each port). Unlimited house wine and beer are free with lunch and dinner and lunch is pretty liberally interpreted by the waitstaff. When Mamsen's closes at 2:30, lunch is officially over. We thought the house wines were very good; beer I believe was always Carlsberg and there's a choice of light or dark. Our mini-fridge stocked soft drinks, tonic water and candy bars and was replenished, with a fresh carafe of water, each day for free. Buses at every port were lined up waiting for independent travelers and ran every half-hour into the city center and back to the ship, all day until 1/2-hour before departure. So you can easily tour on your own, sometimes just walking from the ship, which is what we did in Stavanger.
I'd recommend that, if possible, you make your own travel arrangements and arrive a couple of days early to Bergen, which gives you not only the chance to adjust your internal clock, but also to explore that wonderful town on your own. We attended the Grieg piano concert at his home out of town (can book it online) and then walked on from there to the Fantoft church... well worth the climb! You can board the ship at 11:30 on the day of embarkation, and you will be escorted to the World Cafe for lunch and can explore the ship until your cabin is ready. They tag and take all your luggage when you arrive, so it's waiting for you and you can relax and find your favorite spots. I highly recommend the Explorer Lounge (especially upstairs in the library) and the Wintergarden, if you enjoy reading or research... there are books everywhere on the ship for you to enjoy. In short, I'd cruise again, but only on Viking. I saw the megaships in port with us and felt bad for the people on them, they were herded around like cattle. Even though we went on some cruise tours, there were never more than 26-30 people in our group. Although we'd never cruised before and had no way to compare, many people we met at dinner were experienced cruisers and said that Viking is head and shoulders above other cruise lines, even if only for all the things included with your fare that you will be nickel-and-dimed to death for on other lines (like free beverages and the spa facilities).
Sorry for the long report, and good luck with your decision!!
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How many Baltic ports did you visit? We have been in St. Petersburg and the Scandinavian cities so mostly interested in seeing several Baltic ports.
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We were on the Viking Homelands cruise from Bergen to Stockholm, with emphasis on the cities in the Hanseatic League. It's mapped on their website: www.vikingcruises.com/oceans/cruise-destinations/baltic/viking-homelands/index.html?return=true
Eight countries (11 ports). We especially loved seeing so much of Norway!
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I also disagree that one day is enough for Copenhagen. I did think 1 day was enough for Helsinki and Tallinn.
We did RCCL bc of the itinerary - it started in Copenhagen, so we added extra time there, and ended in Stockholm. But the best was 3 days in St Petersburg. Our guide crammed so much into those 3 days and we were able to skip so many lines. We would have easily needed 6 or more days had we tried to visit all the places we did on our own.
I would highly highly recommend you not do the ship's excursions and book your own. Unless you want to pay more money to go slower in a tour,group with more people.
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I thought 1 day in Copenhagen was okay, but that was a DIY stop for us, with a canal tour, visiting the Anglican church, the Kastellet, touring Amalienborg and going into the beautiful Frederik's Church. It was a long day, but very enjoyable. Of course it's impossible to become acquainted with any location during a cruise stop, but I think it is what you make of it. Our cruise did offer a tour of Helsinki, which I should have mentioned but forgot the OP specifically said biking is an interest.
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Sorry, I meant to say "a BIKE tour" of the city!
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Just chiming in to say - I just got back from a Royal Caribbean Baltic cruise. If biking is of interest, we took a bike tour with Happy Guides Helsinki and had a great time. We had seven people, so it was just our group, and they customized it with a stop at one of the food halls for Finnish snacks that our guide, Dani, had prearranged.
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FlaAnn: Thanks for your great report. I just now saw it and skimmed it. Will read it in much more depth later today ... I may have more questions later. Thanks!
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@FlaAnn: Questions:
Would you have any comments/preference on the difference between Vikings' Homelands cruise going from Bergen to Stockholm vs from Stockholm to Bergen?
I notice that going from Stockholm to Bergen gives a 3 more hours in Flam.
One of my interests would be to take the train from Flam to Voss, then bike back to Flam. This is further than the bike trip Viking offers, but I've read that it's doable. Any observations?
And any comments re the Warnemunde/Berlin stop? I've been to Berlin and would like to go back, but can't imagine the short part-day in Berlin being worth it ... there's so MUCH there. What was other passengers' response to trying that? Lubeck/Wismar could be interesting. Or are there other DIY things to do near Warnemunde?
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oops, in post above I meat Myrdal, not Voss
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Best to look for late information because a number of posts contained very outdated information. For example the "old industrial port" for cruise passengers far from the city center". The new large passenger port is only for cruise passengers and is the newest and most modern in Europe. It handles 8-9 of the largest cruise ships at the same time with ease. There are 3 other ports for smaller ships, the ferry port, main river port and the two city center cruise ports right in the middle of the historic center for smaller ships with up to 1500 passengers+crew.
The new cruise terminals(4 terminals each with 2 separate reception sections and their own passport control and customs. City transportation covers the port to the metro station (subway) by bus for 30 rubles ($0.45) and then metro to the city center from Basil Island for a 6 minute journey for $0.54. So exploring on your own is very feasible if you have a visa. For Americans the visa is $160 and is a 3 years multiple entry. For Europeans it is 50 euros and 30 days single or double entry.
96% of cruise passengers enter visa free by booking a tour with a Russian tour company. Ships sell tours conducted by contracting Russian tour operators, but they mark up the price a lot and focus on large 50 passenger bus excursions. About 1/2 the cruise passengers buy the more expensive ship tours because they are told by the ship that they can't get off the ship unless they buy ship sold tours. That not very ethical and the immigration service has warned the cruise lines about it but nothing has changed for 15 years. The internet however had informed a lot of people so it is not the secret it used to be.
Booking a tour can be ANYTHING you might want, or none at all, just walking and shopping or full intense private tour with all the museums and palace interiors one can visit in 2-3 days. Anything that is arranged with an authorized tour operator is permitted for visa free entry. The only restrictions is that a tour needs to be 2 or more people, it can't involve staying in a hotel overnight and passport information has to be filed with immigration 4 days in advance of the tour. Passport info needed includes full name, country that issued the passport, passport number and date of birth. So tours can be as formal or casual as desired, either private or group type. There is also a lot of flexibility where you can wander off and explore some on your own as long as you meet back up with your guide at an agreed to time and place.
Most cruise passengers are not typical travelers, they cruise as the main reason to travel, and it becomes the important element in their social life. Many would cruise even if the ship stopped nowhere. Traditionally port calls are brief, 4-8 hours except for St Petersburg where port calls are usually 2-3 days.
Unfortunately, due to reading the same recommendations the vast majority of cruise passengers want the exact same destinations(Hermitage, Peterhof, Catherine Palace, Church on Spilled Blood, Peter and Paul Fortress, canal cruise, and St Isaac Cathedral) so some of those destinations become extremely crowded when ships are in port. When 16,000 people get off cruise ships and all go through the same path through the Hermitage or Catherine Palace at the same time and it is a crush of people. But that means 340 museums, cathedrals and palaces are almost empty.
If coming to St Petersburg in the summer, particularly June and July, try to see those things on days when large cruise ships are not in port. The second half of June is rough with many international festivals, Stars of the White Nights, the Economic Forum, plus hundreds of thousands of cruise passengers all wanting to share the same space at the same time. Check the cruise schedules and find dates with few if any ships in port. A trend for a couple years has made it worse, the cruise lines schedule their biggest ships all on the same days of arrival so one day will be 20,000 and the next might have none. Picking the date carefully makes a difference in enjoyment. Or if in doubt come in the fall and if you are mostly interested in cultural performances, come in the winter when every theater and concert hall is staging performances. August is a poor month for cultural performances, it is the traditional "dark" month for theaters. The only ballet available is "tourist ballet" and at higher prices than one would expect for lower level of performance.
For those exploring on their own an unlocked GSM smartphone is your friend. You can get a local phone number for about $10 and data account(pay as you go) with data plan, or rely on the free wi-fi in every cafe, restaurant and most stores or fast food outlet. Having the local data plan will save a LOT of money instead of roaming charges. I know people who were running $90 a week for data until I showed them how to get better service with unlimited bandwidth for about $5/wk. My 4G at 55mb/s unlimited is $12/month. My fiber optic 110mb/s home service is $7/month, unlimited bandwidth. It is a very connected country.
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I really appreciate am-expat's great advice about visiting on one's own, since that is typically our modus operandi.
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@ julies -- it is definitely possible to see these places on one's own. No need for a tour.
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after many many decades of travelling on our own, we are giving a two-fer trip a try next summer.. 2 weeks on our own, then 2 weeks tour, then 1 on our own. this is the cruise we will be doing... signed on this morning.
will be posting questions of our own, but loving all the info here. this way, we can go to 2 countries with a little intensity (lithuania and latvia) and a little stretch across norway. we are looking forward to no unpacking and dipping our toes into russia and so many other spots on the cruise section! (but mostly, we'll look forward to the courtesy laundry facilities that seem to be on the ship, after 2 weeks our of a little suitcase!)
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We planned and paid for Viking Homelands cruise departing last May. We bought the insurance thru Viking. My husband fell in Zion National Park in March. Broke his hip. We had to cancel. Viking gave us our money back almost instantly. The insurance part of the refund took longer but got that back as well. Buy insurance!!
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OTTAWA (Reuters) - High commodity prices will help Canada avoid a recession this year but a U.S. slump will pull down economic growth to 1.4 percent, about half last year's rate and below official forecasts, Royal Bank of Canada said on Thursday.
After an unexpected contraction in the first quarter of an annualized 0.3 percent, the economy will fare better in the remainder of the year due to support from consumer spending, business investment, an easing of financial market pressures and high prices for energy and other natural resources, the bank predicted in its revised forecasts.
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But RBC's outlook for second-quarter growth remain fairly upbeat compared with the Bank of Canada's latest projections. RBC calls for 1.5 percent second-quarter growth, while the central bank expects growth of just 0.3 percent in the quarter, according to an April report by the Bank of Canada that will be updated this month.
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"The result of this terms-of-trade boost is that Canadians have experienced a lift to their incomes on rising export earnings," RBC said.
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Polokwane - Two men suspected of stalking the ANC Youth League's Limpopo provincial secretary, Jacob Lebogo, appeared in the Polokwane Magistrate's Court on Friday.Peter Mthombeni, member of the SA National Defence Force and Philip Nkuzana were arrested on Wednesday and charged with impersonating a police officer and possession of ammunition.Investigating Officer Captain Risimati Baloyi told the court that Mthombeni had previous convictions while Nkuzana had a pending case against him.Defence lawyer Jack Makgoaka disagreed with Baloyi and said the case against Mthombeni had been withdrawn and that there was no pending case against Nkuzana.The two have been in police custody since their arrest.Baloyi told the court a third suspect was still at large.He said the third accused had been seen with Mthombeni and Nkuzana on closed-circuit television. Baloyi said police wanted the two to identify the third man from the footage.Magistrate Janine Ungerer warned the police not to build their case on information they may not acquire."You are not going to use the accused to prove your case against them," she said.Members of the ANC Youth League claim that Mthombeni and Nkuzana had been plotting to kill Lebogo when they were arrested near the offices of the provincial department of road and transport.Makgoaka was expected to argue that the police reflector and ammunition found in the men's possession were not in their car illegally.The matter was postponed to February 9 for a formal bail application and for the State to prove that there was a pending case against Nkuzana.
What did the province do? Its a piece of land for heavens sake. In fact a very beautiful piece of land. Its the idiots that have run it into the ground.
I can't see what offence was committed by the two men yet they are locked up.
I will pose the question : If Hellen Zille reported she was being 'stalked' would the police be so quick to arrest the suspects?
No reason has been forwarded for why the men would want to stalk the ANCYL. It's the first time I've heard of politicians complaining that they've been stalked.
Usually a woman complains about a stalker. The poice will question the suspect and give a caution if they think it's justified. If it happens again a court restraining order is taken out.
There are aspects of this incident that I am very unhappy with.
No evidece was lead. It was claimed that the two men arrested plus a third one were caught on CCTV. Big deal, so were hundreds of others.
What I also find disturbing is the fact that the investigating officer made certain allegations against the men which the lawyer has refuted.
Sadly, as the allegations were made in a court of law the two men cannot sue for defamation.
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A recent Guardian article by Trevor Timm highlights the efforts by the NSA to become more ubiquitous in the surveillance arena as it lobbies for even more spying powers. It is emboldened by a little known but recently leaked directive inked by President Obama even as he was campaigning for a second term in which he called for an expanded list of hacking targets all over the world. Based on past articles by our staff, it would seem the NSA has warmed to the task!
The article also points out the glaring lack of action over the past two years in the area of surveillance reform, and how this might have contributed to the NSA's hubris in enlarging the breadth and scope of its hacking operations – both domestically and internationally.
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To accommodate this voracious craving for private information, NSA director Mike Rogers is lobbying for a new measure that would force companies to install backdoors into all their encryption. This idea has been echoed before by agencies such as the NSA, and was the backdrop for President Obama's "digital summit" last month in Silicon Valley, which has as expected provoked condemnation and scorn from the entire security community – including a very public reproach by Yahoo's top security executive, Alex Stamos, who pronounced such measures would be a disaster for the very cyber security that the NSA purports to wish to protect.
Not content to slam the government's cyber security efforts, Timm also bemoans the lack of accountability emanating from the legislative branch of government, arguing that the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA) as an abomination – an excuse to empower the NSA with more cyber spying powers without prudent judicial involvement or oversight.
While all this is playing out, attention is being diverted from an even more important issue – the Patriot Act – specifically expiration of the unctuous section 215 – from which most of the spy apparatuses have gleaned the power to vacuum up citizen's phone records. Unless it is renewed in June by Congress, it will expire.
Perhaps, the NSA smells defeat in this area, and is ratcheting up its efforts to secure its surveillance superiority lest it lose power because of Section 215's demise. I think the lack of discourse between the administration and Congress over section 215 is merely a ploy by supporters of its being extended. I think the hope is that the American public will be so distracted by other things that this odious provision will slip through unnoticed and unchallenged.
Privacy advocates in America should not be so easily duped, nor allow a decade old statute such as this, which allows spying and restriction of liberties with impunity, to go unopposed. If they do so, this will lend approval to the type of repression they ostensibly campaigns so hard to prevent, effectively surrendering to the forces that seek to stifle personal expression.


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OK, I have formA with a field called txtMPMS which is a 13 digit number. After user have added information on this form they need to open FormB. Form A stays open in the background. When Form B is open in Edit mode.
When user click add new record in FormB, I want the value entered in txtMPMS to be displayed in FormB. I have too many user who get typing in the incorrect number. I want the value to appear in FormB only when the user is adding a new record in formB.
I tried referrencing the control in FormA but using Forms![FormA]![txtMPMS] but i didnt have much luck.
Would I better of coding something similar to this
So what Im after to have value from txtMPMS copied in txtMPMS in FormB only when its a new record.


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SuperCompressor diving watches are a category unto themselves, and the best Swiss brands sold versions of the distinctive dual crown watches that have been one of the most popular types of dive watches for years.
The SuperCompressor name refers to the innovative case design, which utilizes a "compressor" system that's designed to become more watertight the deeper that the watch went under water. As the atmospheric pressure increases along with depth, the case back is compressed, pushing on the gaskets and creating a tighter seal.
Due to their good looks, compressor cases proved to be popular during the 1960s. Eager to get into the burgeoning dive watch market, many of the best Swiss brands turned to EPSA (Ervin Piquerez, S.A.), the leading manufacturer of compressor cases at the time, for cases to build their divers around. The SuperCompressor cases came in two sizes, 36mm (featured here) and 41mm.
This particular example is branded by the US based company Benrus, and features a classic 36mm ESPA case with dual crowns and an internal rotating dive bezel. The idea behind the design is that they're less prone to accidental rotation that an external bezel. It is perhaps this feature that has become the most endearing feature of Super Compressors to collectors today. Practically, they worked out great for warm water divers, but anyone with gloved hands would have struggled.
This particular example is in excellent condition throughout, with crisp lume and "Cathedral" hands. Sporty yet comfortably sized, it conveniently houses an automatic Swiss movement.
Stainless steel EPSA SuperCompressor case is 36mm. ETA 2452 automatic movement.
Overall Condition: Stainless steel EPSA SuperCompressor case is in very good condition with crisp bevels on the lugs and no signs of over-polishing. Dial is in very good condition with fine even patina to the luminescent elements of the hour markers and hands. EPSA crowns. Benrus case back has some scratches and tool marks but is in otherwise very good condition.
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Test tube babies are the result of an advancement in medical science in the field of infertility treatment.
Invitro fertilization (IVF) or Intra Cytoplasmic Sperm Injection (ICSI) are the most advanced assisted reproductive technologies that are practiced in the field of infertility treatments.
A test tube baby is born without the natural intercourse between a man and woman. Instead, the ovum of the woman and the sperm of the man will be fused outside the body for a successful fertilization.
Before the advancement of these technologies, the term 'test tube baby' was used for children born by artificial insemination method. Louise Brown is the first test tube baby born in 1978.
So, what are the facts about test tube babies that you should know? No matter how advanced and modern we are, there are still many facts about test tube babies that are under controversy.
Still, many religious groups consider this as an unethical move; and there are many people who think that babies born like this are abnormal. Here, we will discuss more about some facts regarding test tube babies.
How did the name 'test tube baby' come?
Test tube babies are the result of IVF and ICSI. In these techniques, the ovum and the sperm are fertilized outside the body and are implanted back into the woman's uterus.
Since the fertilization is done outside the body, such babies who are born are called test tube babies.
Who should go for test tube babies?
Assisted reproductive treatments are recommended for couples who face difficulty in conceiving, mainly due to ovulation problems of the woman or decreased sperm count in the man.
Never consider IVF as a first line of treatment however. This can be considered only if all other treatments fail.
How are test tube babies born?
Production of multiple eggs is induced in a woman. After this, all matured eggs are extracted out. The semen of the husband will be processed to collect the most motile sperms.
These are then combined for the fertilization process and will be implanted back to the uterus.
Are test tube babies normal?
Absolutely, yes and they are very healthy too! No studies proved till now that test tube babies have any specific health issues related to the procedures.
They can lead a perfectly healthy life similar to any other babies born through natural conception. This is one among the 7 facts about test tube babies.
Are test tube babies fertile?
Test tube babies can grow up as normal individuals, and there will not be any problem with fertility due to the procedure. Studies prove that the chances of infertility in people who are test tube babies and in people who are born with natural conception are almost the same.
Are test tube babies designer babies?
No, not at all! Modern science allows the parents to rule out embryos that have genetic diseases and some countries allow gender selection too.
However, apart from such scenarios, test tube babies are not designer babies made by genetic manipulations.
Are test tube babies really made in test tubes?
This is one of the most common myth about test tube babies. Actually, the fertilization step is carried out in a petri-dish with the assistance of proper temperature and synthetic hormones.
Later the embryo is implanted into the mother. This is one among the 7 facts about test tube babies.


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Congratulations to all Bungay Taekwondo Students who passed the June grading
A Big Congratulations to all Bungay & Beccles Taekwondo Students who passed their summer Grading at Bungay High School on 26th June 2016
All students were graded on their individual belt syllabuses, which includes patterns, techniques, step sparring routines, self defence, sparring, destruction, and a test of their knowledge in both English and Korean.
GTUK Examiner Mr Steve King VI degree was very pleased with the progress of all students, and said that the standards were very high, he congratulated them on their 100% pass rate.
Young Bungay student Jed Baddour was awarded and A Pass for his Red Tag belt grading.
Beccles student Dean Harding was awarded an A Pass for his provisional Black Belt grading and has now achieved the status of Black Tag, his next grading will be in Coventry in front the GTUK's Grand Master Oldham IX degree and Master Auciello VII degree.
The summer is a great time to start this family orientated sport, giving new members time to learn their 1st belt syllabus in readiness for the October grading, it takes 3-4 years to learn the full syllabus and become a 1st Degree Black Belt student.
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Poor guy. This guy tried to make his wedding proposal to his girlfriend extra special last night by doing it on camera at a game between the Yankees and Red Sox. Thousands of people watching, what could possibly go wrong? It wasn't that she said no. As he's about to get down on one knee…he dropped the ring.
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"A comedy that's right on target." 01 January 1989 Comedy 87 mins
A group of misfit U.S. Army soldiers are chosen to represent their base at the annual war games competition where they are not expected to win.
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Hearts, hearts hearts, and a few more!
So here they are. All the test knitting I have been doing in the last little while that match up with the new pattern I'm testing out! I started with a single heart in a shawlette or bandana, and moved … Continue reading
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|January 4, 2016 • VOL. 54, NO. 1 • Oakland, CA
'A home for those in need'
In late November, just after Thanksgiving, a woman in Queens, New York, brought her newborn baby boy, wrapped in a towel, to her local Catholic Church. She waited until no one was around, and placed her baby in the manger scene, which had just been erected — but with no Baby Jesus yet in place. She left her baby in the manger and ran out of the church.
The parish priest, the Rev. Christopher Ryan Heanue, 28, said he could think of no better place to leave a baby. He said that rather than seeing the mother's actions as sad, he found them inspirational. "I think it's beautiful," Father Heanue told the New York Times. "A church is a home for those in need, and she felt, in this manger — a place where Jesus will find his home — she found a home for her child."
Yes, she found a home for her child.
The manger at Bethlehem is the origin of the Catholic Church. It is where it all started, with the birth of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Messiah, Redeemer and Savior of the World. The Prince of Peace. God from God. Light from Light. True God from True God.
That mother in Queens, who could not care for her baby, found a home for her child in the Catholic Church.
Mary and Joseph could not find a home for their child. There was no room in the inn. So they resorted to an animal pen in a cave.
Yet from the instant the Christ Child was born, people on earth have responded!
The shepherds heard the voice of the angels and acted upon it immediately. The Magi saw the star and followed it.
Our belief must lead us to act.
Since the baby was discovered in the church in New York multiple parishioners have offered to adopt the child. Their faith had led them to act!
We are now in the season to celebrate the birth of the Savior of the World. Like the shepherds and the Magi, you and I worship and adore the Newborn King.
What's our response? If you believe in the divinity of this child, your faith must inspire you to act.
You and I have got to respond.
How? What can I do?
May I make a suggestion? (Actually, two suggestions?)
1. Contribute to our Safe House. Many of the girls selling themselves on our streets or on the Internet have nowhere to go — they have no route of escape. The majority of them are minors. The district attorney of Alameda County, Catholic Charities and our diocese are teaming up to open a Safe House using one of our former convents. Here we will provide safe shelter, medical attention, educational possibilities and, most important, a loving and caring home. This is a ministry no other church or social agency is providing.
2. Co-sponsor a refugee family. Last September I was in Rome and personally heard the Holy Father ask every parish and monastery in Europe to sponsor a refugee family. Wouldn't it be great if we become the first diocese in the USA where every parish co-sponsored a refugee family? I say "co-sponsor" because it's hard for a parish to sponsor a family all by itself, but together we can combine with Catholic Charities to sponsor a number of families. Whatever a parish is able to provide: whether it's furnishing a small apartment, providing clothes, cooking a meal, meeting the family at the airport, providing rent, etc., will be welcomed and be considered "co-sponsorship." Catholic Charities of our diocese already sponsors more than 200 refugees a year in the East Bay, in full cooperation with the U.S. Department of State.
As bishop and leader of the Diocese of Oakland, I invite each and every one of our 84 parishes to co-sponsor a refugee family. Let's do this together in the same spirit in which we would welcome Mary and Joseph as they looked for a place at the inn. If we would welcome the Holy Family to our parish and provide a place where Mary could give birth to the Christ child, shouldn't we do the same in the name of Jesus to those who come to us for help?
"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me." (Matt 25:35).
I am proud that our Cathedral Parish of Christ the Light is the first to sign up with Catholic Charities to co-sponsor a refugee family.
My brothers and sisters, you and I have received an incomparable gift from God in the birth of Jesus.
Pope Francis said: "The birth of the Messiah constitutes the supreme act of mercy on the part of the Father who loves and cares for us." St. Irenaeus said: "God became man, so that man might become God."
We are celebrating this Christmas in a special Holy Year of Mercy. If you receive Holy Communion, you receive Jesus — who is Mercy Incarnate.
If you receive Communion, you are obliged — obliged — to become a channel of His Mercy to this world.
If that woman in New York had left her baby in one of our churches, I am sure our parishioners would not hesitate to rescue that child and help it. (By the way, the name of the church in New York where the woman left her baby was "The Church of the Holy Child Jesus.")
Let's help the young women trapped on our streets, victims of human trafficking and those refugees displaced from homes and countries because of violence and fear.
Let every parish in the Diocese of Oakland open its arms to receive The Savior ... whether He is in the manger, or in the disguise of the poor, or a victim of trafficking or those evicted from their countries with nowhere safe to go.
Happy and Blessed New Year to you all!
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Whiskey mushroom Dubliner cheese burger – to know it is to love it! Guys, boy do I have a gourmet cheeseburger recipe for you. If someone ever asks you to make them a man's burger, this Whiskey Mushroom and Dubliner Cheese Burger would be it. With its toasty brioche bun, juicy burger, soft spreadable Dubliner cheese and whiskey caramelized mushrooms and onions, there is so much umami flavor going on here I can barely handle it. It's perfect for all of those tailgating parties that are just around the corner.
I can't even believe I just typed that. I can't even believe that August starts tomorrow and that football season is just around the corner. Holy smokes this year has gone by fast!
I must say though, that I am ready for football season. Well, kind of, I'm ready for all that football season has to offer, you know cooler fall weather and delicious game day snacks. But what I am not ready for is the stress every Sunday, and I am definitely not ready for heartbreaking moments like the last play of the Super Bowl. But let's just focus on the food for a moment.
Football food like this cheese burger. This burger recipe is my entry for a giveaway contest for members of the Kerrygold Blogger Loyalty Program. The challenge this month was to come up with a mouthwatering burger using their cheese. My monthly cheese package included a product new to me, that I absolutely fell in love with: Soft and Creamy Dubliner Cheese. That's right, the delicious Dubliner cheese is now spreadable. And guys, it's kind of amazing.
And if the creamy spreadable Dubliner cheese wasn't enough, this cheeseburger gets taken to a whole other level with whiskey caramelized onions and mushrooms and a brioche bun. It's the perfect burger for a weeknight meal, a bbq and a tailgate party. Trust me.
And even if we are in for some heartbreaking football moments this season, this burger is sure to comfort us through it. Right?
Disclosure: I was sent the cheeses by Kerrygold and this post is my entry for a giveaway for members of the Kerrygold Blogger Loyalty Program. All opinions are my own.
Place butter and olive oil in a skillet over medium heat until butter melts.
Cook mushrooms and onions over medium heat for 15 minutes or until they start to brown and caramelize. Pour in whiskey. Continue cooking for another 5 minutes. Season to taste with salt and pepper.
Meanwhile, cook burger patties until desired doneness is reached.
Toast brioche buns.
To assemble a burger: Place lettuce on bottom bun, place burger on top, spread 2 wedges of dubliner soft and cream cheese wedges on top of burger patty, spoon caramelized mushrooms and onions over the top. Spread a mayonnaise on top bun and place on top of mushrooms. Repeat with with remaining ingredients until 4 burgers are made. Serve immediately.


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It's been a few days since I've been back but I've been busy (a.k.a lazy).
Friday marked the last day of classes for my first semester of Graphic Design school. WOOHOO! I think I kicked ass in everything and I'm really enjoying it. I had only one class on friday and it ended early. When we were done the prof asked us "So, you're done you're all of your courses. What are you going to do now on your week off?". No one answered, so I yelled out "Lets go DRINKING!" My McGill roots showing wildly. Long story short, I ended up at Mad Hatters with the cool kids in my class.
After a few beers I met up briefly with the awesomely cool Mariana (Gentlemen she's single...), caught up with what was going on until my phone rang. It wa smy mom telling me to hurry to the train station because there was some sort of protest happening in Belleville that could affect the trains. SO I sai dmy good byes and ran over to the train station to find otu my mom was completely right and the train line to Toronto had been blocked by the Native Indians in Ontario as a protest against something. So I had to take a bus to Toronto instead of a train.
I ended up sitting next to some crazy art chick in her 30's. I was just reading amagazine until I notced her reading over my shoulder, which prompted us to talk. As much as it was interesting to talk to her (she even showed me some of her cool art stuff on her mac laptop and even let me show her MY art stuff from my USB), she just souldn't stop talking. I couldn't even take a nap. Even with my eyes closed it took a while to get her to stop (I'm I like this???). Anyways, I could have been next to someone way worse, plus she was nice to talk to and she even gave me her e-mail adress, although she mentioned a husband and I didn't see a ring on her finger so I'm kind of afraid to e-mail her...
I got into Toronto at 11pm (2 hours than expected). My brother picked me up and after a quick bite out I was in his apartment with his ever so lovely wife, Connie and his adorable sone, Charles who is only 14 months old.
The weather was really shitty and all I did when I was there was go shopping and see lots of family , which was both fun and exciting.
Saturday, I went to Centerpoint mall with my bro and then we went to a Procter and Gamble warehouse sale where they had all kinds of things on sale. There was toothpaste, perfume, make up, hair dye, cleaning products and even computer games. I'm not a big computer game kind of guy but my brother convinced me to check out the selstion and I ended up buying XIII for 10$. I've been playing it a bit since I've been back and the fact the it even works on my computer makes it a fucking cool game. Besides that fact, it IS a fucking cool game. It's a Doom, first shooter type game in comic bok style with a Bourne Identity style storyline and the best thing about it... wait for it... is that one of the characters is voiced by ADAM WEST.
Saturday night, we went out for dinner with my cousin Lori and her daughter Corina. I had an amazing plate of linguini in brandy rose sauce with red snapper. HMM HMMM!
After dinner, Mark and I went to watch The Sentinal which was a fun movie to watch but nothing great. It was kind of week in plot especialy near the end. There was a bit of a "He's really a bad guy" kind of story line going on at the end but I figured out who it could be well at the beginning of the movie. Definitely a rental.
Sunday morning I had breakfast with my aunt and uncle who live out there and then went back to my brothers apartment where we grabbed Connie and Charles and headed over to Chapters. That kid LOVES looking at books. He can't read or even understand what abook is yet but he just has a fascination looking at so many books! It was like he found a giant cave loaded with treasure.
The afternoon was spent in a few malls and the evening was spent having dinner with my other cousin Lori from my dad's side of the family. She's getting married in October so it was fun to tlak to her for a while, especially since I hadn't seen her since before I moved to Australia.
Monday morning I actually took the metro to the train station. Tha was funtastic.
Five hours later I was home safe and sound and played XIII for a few hours!
Overall a good weekend indeed.


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I like jax, its my favorite champ. Here is my build. If I go jax I do this build anyway.
You need good farm at the begin for jax, then he is going to own at 2 basic attacks a attack damage boost.
If you go bad
If you go bad you need speed to flee and amor for heal, you need dorans blade for life steal and attack damage for farm. If you go bad you need farm much!
If you go good
I shall go shop the bloodthister or the black cleaver for more attack damage and life steal.
- If you do your Q on a champ go then for you E than W and than E you are than going to stop him.
- Go stay in the plants and when he/she is coming go spring on him with your Q
- Use wards to escape
-Dont go first for you E or Q
-Dont do not vote this build
-Dont do 1 vs 1 when you are not sure of you can get him
-Dont go jax mid or support
-Dont follow this build if you go jungle