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Having researched this briefly, we are planning a trip for next February. We have about 2 weeks plus maybe a couple of extra days and we know that at least 3 days will be consumed by travel back and forth. So maybe a 12-13 day itinerary on the ground would work. We enjoy great scenery on short (2 to 4 hours max) hikes, good food and wine, history, culture and for my wife, upscale shopping. If there is a choice between bungee jumping and visiting a botanical garden, we would choose the latter. It does not matter if we are based in cities or "out there", but we really only want to be at a maximum of 4 destinations during our stay so that we can "settle in" and get to know each destination. Also, it is not necessary to cover both islands, but we will likely arrive in Auckland as most flights do, but are open to continuing on, if that is the best approach. We have travelled very extensively - click on my name to see where...
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Craig, good to see you here on the Australia and Pacific forum. I've only traveled as far as the Auckland region, so am only able to provide feedback on a small part of NZ. I very much enjoyed Auckland for walking, shopping, the very worthwhile Auckland War Memorial Museum, and the laid-back vibe. Waiheke Island comes to mind given your desire for short hikes, good food, and wine; it is a short ferry ride from the city. I spent 5 nights based in the city during my 2013 visit, which I thought was perfect. Happy planning!
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With 12-13 days I'd suggest sticking to the South Island.
It's possible to do a quasi loop from Christchurch via the inland route to Mt Cook and then back to Christchurch via the West Coast, (or reverse) but you'd need more than four destinations.
Maybe something like this:
Fly Auckland to Christchurch - possible overnight depending on arrival time
Drive Christchurch to the West Coast via Arthur's Pass with side trip to Punakaiki (about a 45 minute detour each way) - possible overnight at Hokitika.
Drive down the West Coast spending a few nights at either Franz Josef or Fox glacier - two nights will only give you one full day due to drive distances. Staying in Hokitika for one night will give you about 1.5 days at the glaciers.
Drive from the Glaciers to Wanaka - spend at least two nights
Drive from Wanaka to Te Anau - spend at least two nights. This will give you a full day to dedicate to Milford Sound, and believe me you need a FULL day.
Drive Te Anau to Queenstown - spend at least two nights
Drive Queenstown to Mount Cook - spend at least two nights
Drive from Mount Cook to Christchurch - possible overnight before departure
This is a pretty full on itinerary, but will give you a taste of the SI's highlights.
You'll find great scenery, hikes, good food and wine just about everywhere in NZ. Upscale shopping will be limited to the cities, in the case of the SI, Christchurch and Queenstown.
Another option is to fly between destinations (such as between Christchurch and Queenstown or Christchurch and Nelson, etc)
But, the best of NZ is in between.
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Mel has good SI suggestions.
For the North - well Waiheke is beautiful with awesome views at every turn, lovely beaches and great food and wine.
Auckland has it's charms - out west are the black sand beaches of Piha and Karekare and the bush walks in the Waitakere rainforest.
Coromandel is lovely in the summer - Cathedral Cove and Hot Water Beach are worth a look. Stay in Coromandel village and do the Coromandel Coastal walkway around the top. It's best to take the organised tour there as they drop you off (it's walked one way)and pick you up at the other end. The road is not sealed so some rentals won't be allowed to drive there.
February is pretty busy here so I'd get things booked as soon as you can. Chinese New Year brings many visitors to the popular spots.
What does upscale shopping mean? Chanel and Dior? Well we have those in Auckland but she may like to try a NZ designer like Karen Walker for clothes or jewellery or Kathryn Wilson for shoes. They have shops in Britomart. Parnell and Ponsonby have the upmarket shops as well.
New Zealand is very small both in population and size. We do not have the daily flights everywhere or the choices (internal airlines, rental cars, restaurants, shops, activities etc)you may expect in the USA.
However our beaches are free for all to enjoy! I was astounded when I stayed with my friend in New York City and she said some beaches were for rate payers only so you had to take your 'beach pass' with you and someone would check it at the beach before you were allowed on. Unbelievable!
You could see a bit of the North with a rental car and then fly from Rotorua to Christchurch. Don't dismiss Queenstown it does have some historical charm and character. The lovely Earnslaw steamship sails across the lake 2 or 3 times each day. There is a small botanical garden so you can bypass the bungee jumping. Great area for wine as well.
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If you go way up north and you want to deepen your understanding of N.Z. history and such, then you must visit the Waitangi Treaty Grounds and give it a couple of hours at least. See waitangi.org.nz
And if you go to Rotorua, visit the former resort hotel and spa that is now a hugely interesting museum, still housed in the same old impressive building - see www.rotoruamuseum.co.nz
And while in that region, don't miss out on lovely lake Taupo and maybe indulge in one of the nearby hot-springs public baths.
On your way back down to Wellington (where the Te Papa museum is a must, https://www.tepapa.govt.nz/), stop in Napier and check out the uniform "Art Deco" style of the buildings and drive up to the Bluff Hill Lookout, see www.napier.govt.nz/napier/parks/memorials/bluff-hill-lookout/
Good wines can be had in that area.
Have fu, Kiwiland is the best!
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Thank you for the helpful suggestions. It looks like we will have to move around a bit more than we are used to. We are looking at the last 2 weeks in February (approximately) so the Chinese New Year (2/15-2/21) will coincide with the early part of our trip. We will be able to book flights shortly, so I'd like to have a tentative itinerary to work with. Based on my research so far, here is what I have come up with:
Day 1 arrive Christchurch late morning
Day 2 Christchurch
Day 3 Drive to Franz Joseph via Hokitika - 1.5 hr walk to see glacier
Day 4 Drive to Wanaka via Fox Glacier
Day 5 Wanaka
Day 6 Drive to Te Anau
Day 7 Te Anau/Milford Sound
Day 8 Drive to Queenstown
Day 9 Queenstown
Day 10 Drive to Mt Cook 2-3 hr hike then drive to Christchurch
Day 11 morning flight to Auckland
Day 12 Auckland
Day 13 Auckland
Day 14 depart Auckland early afternoon
As I see it, Day 3 would be a bit rushed as would Day 10. Is this realistic? If I were to cut out one destination and add time elsewhere, what would you recommend? I don't see where the glaciers will require a 2 night stay - am I wrong? Also, should I consider cutting Auckland out altogether and just do the SI?
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<<Day 3 Drive to Franz Joseph via Hokitika - 1.5 hr walk to see glacier>>
This is a 371 km drive, over five hours without stops - plus the time to drive to the glacier - which leaves very little time to see Arthur's Pass or Hokitika en route.
With the long daylight of summer, it's possible, but keep in mind if you want to see Punakaiki, you'll need to add 90 minutes to the drive, not to mention the time you spend at Punakaiki. You may not be up for a hike upon arrival.
This is the very reason I always suggest two nights at the glaciers - long drives on either end leave very little time to visit the glaciers once you're there.
<<I don't see where the glaciers will require a 2 night stay - am I wrong?>
I completely disagree. Two nights is a MINIMUM for anyone wanting to explore the glaciers IMO. With one full day (two nights) you can visit both glaciers, including the walks to both and Lake Matheson, including the walk around the lake.
With only one night, you have very little time to explore them. Keep in mind the weather in NZ is iffy year round - a bad day of weather can put the kibosh on your plans.
If you try to fit in Lake Matheson and the walk to Fox Glacier on the day you drive to Wanaka (which makes logistic sense), this will add to an already very long day.
If you want a quick look-see, yeah it might work, but personally, that's not how I travel. Your style may vary.
<<Day 4 Drive to Wanaka via Fox Glacier>>
Not a problem, but just be aware this drive will take at least six hours with stops and there are plenty of reasons to stop. Don't rush this drive. Leave early and take your time. Add more time if you plan to visit Fox and Lake Matheson en route. Lots more time.
<<Day 10 Drive to Mt Cook 2-3 hr hike then drive to Christchurch>>
I think you're pushing your luck with this one. Queenstown to Mount Cook is over three hours (without stops). Mount Cook to Christchurch is over four hours. Not much time for hiking, and Mount Cook is all about hiking. And it's often socked in by clouds, so you may not even see it.
My suggestion - pass on the NI and add those days to the SI, extending your stay in Franz Josef, Wanaka and Mount Cook.
You'll be glad you did.
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I agree with Melnq8. Given that most of your itinerary is centered on the South Island, stick with that. If you are looking for something more relaxed, you may want to think about omitting the glaciers and do Christchurch -> Mount Cook -> Wanaka -> Te Anau -> Queenstown, and book an open jaw flight into Christchurch and out of Queenstown. If you are interested in doing some hikes around Milford Sound, perhaps think about staying at the Milford Sound Lodge rather than in Te Anau.
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Keep in mind that there aren't any hikes originating from Milford Sound (save a short walk around the foreshore), but there are many, many hikes along Milford Road.
We've used Te Anau and Knob's Flat as bases for exploring the hikes in this area. Knob's Flat is about halfway between Te Anau and Milford.
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Open at this point to doing all SI. I have read that parts of the west coast are worth seeing by air. If that has been part of your experience, please chime in on where might be the best place to originate a flight. Also is a cruise at Milford worthwhile?
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The Chinese New Year period will last two weeks from Chinese New Year through Spring Festival Week up until the Lantern Festival, so from around Feb. 15 through March 2nd, 2018.
This year it started a little earlier.
In 2016, February was the busiest month after December, according to Statistics NZ (statistics are not yet available for February 2017). It's a month when many visitors from many countries arrive in NZ, because it tends to be a warmer, drier month (though there are no guarantees with the weather) and because children have returned to school—though university students don't return to class until mid- to late-February. For example, in February 2016, there were 53,152 visitors from China, but 122,064 from Australia. So lots of other tourists besides Chinese.
So you will be coming to NZ, and visiting the most popular destinations, at one of the busiest times of year. In my opinion, the beauty of NZ is when you can experience nature, the landscapes, without crowds. This is possibly in February, but it seems to me, but more difficult in these most popular places.
I agree with Melnq8 on all points, make time for Punakaiki, maybe overnight there to see the rocks themselves and to walk a track or two. Enroute to Franz Josef, you will want to visit Hokitika Gorge. Hokitika is a also a nice place to spend the night, as an alternative to Punakaiki. Hokitika has restaurants, pounamu (jade) shops, a kiwi center, a tree-top walk, a free glow worm dell, and a nice beach for viewing the sunset. As she advises, extend your stay in Franz Josef, Wanaka and Mount Cook.
The drive from Christchurch to Punakaiki takes 4 hours. The drive from Punakaiki to FJ takes 3 hours. Taking into account scenic stops and walks, this would make for a long day, indeed. You'll have a more relaxed trip if you break up this drive. The last time we did this drive, we overnighted in Punakaiki (actually Barrytown), then Hokitika, then FJ for two nights. Here's a link to a drive distance calculator: https://www.aa.co.nz/travel/time-and-distance-calculator/
Given your interests, extend your time in Queenstown. It's touristy and busy but offers many attractions in and around it. You'll want to do a 'day trip to Glenorchy, visit historic Arrowtown, walk through Q'town's Botanic Garden, ride to the top of its gondola, maybe take cruise across Lake Wakitipu. The Skipper's Canyon trip offers a view of Central Otago gold mining past, and stunning scenery, some trips include a jet boat ride on the Shotover River, once dubbed by gold miners as "the richest river in the world."
As you're interested in wine, make time to visit the wineries close to Queenstown (Amisfield, and Gibbston Valley wineries), an area especially known for its Pinot Noirs, though you'll find many other high quality varietals to sample as well. You'll enjoy dining out in Q'town, and you wife will probably enjoy the shopping.
Once youve firmed up your dates, book accommodation in Mt. Cook straight away as accommodation is limited. I recommend Aoraki Court Motel, though request a room on the outside perimeter, so your view isn't blocked by other rooms.
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The problem with New Zealand is that there is so much to see and so much information out there thatit is difficult to filter some of it out and arrive early at a sensible list and route.
I would definitely restrict yourself to the SI for a first trip. It always seems to stkemlonger to get around New Zealand than one expects and not because the roads are bad but because of the constant desire to pull over and have a look at something. Here more than any other place I can recall, less is more.
A classic example if melnq8 example of the Glaciers and Lake Matteson. Yes t glaciers are of course impressive, although not quiet so much as I expected. I suspect that if we had done a helihike it would have been far more impressive but the planes were crashing a few days before we arrived. Th highlight for me was Lake Matteson which is close by and many miss. A bit further up the close is Lake Paringa - we always stopmthere and night in the DOc Carpark simply because it has the best sunrises in the world.
http://www.newzealand.com/uk/ Has some great information on flights all over New Zealand and from memory some of the more interesting ones where leaving from Lake Tekapo by plane and helicopter and covering not only Aoraki but the glaciers as well. if excluding Auckland then theses should fit in quite nicely. Their is also an app to download which is really useful.
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Craig, sorry for the typos in my post. I'm not going call attention to all of them, But I will clarify this one:
"You will be coming to NZ, and visiting the most popular destinations, at one of the busiest times of year. In my opinion, the beauty of NZ is when you can experience nature, the landscapes, without crowds. This is possible in February, but it seems to me, more difficult in these most popular places."
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<<Also is a cruise at Milford worthwhile?>>
Yes, but the drive to Milford far exceeds the cruise IMO.
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I think I might not do the glaciers (they are shrinking and not really that impressive these days especially if you've seen others). Instead I'd recommend Nelson/ Abel Tasman, Christchuch, Mt. Cook and the Queenstown/Arrowtown area.
I think you might like Wellington on the North Island. You can fly Auckland to Wellington, do a few days there then fly to Nelson or Christchuch, pick up a car and drive south via Mt. Cook and in the Queenstown/Arrowtown area.
Arrowtown has lot of good restaurants and accommodation, although it gets day trippers it also is a nice place to stay and near to some good wineries.
If you are really into wines then you could also stay a night out near the wineries around Bannockburn etc.. try Clyde (Oliver's used to have a good reputation).
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mlgb, when I first read Craig's post, I thought they might enjoy Auckland (War Memorial Museum, Waiheke Island, and other day trips), Napier (beautiful wineries, good food, Art Deco architecture, gannet colony, seaside location, Te Mata Peak) and Wellington (Te Papa Museum, lively dining scene, scenic Cable Car ride, gorgeous Botanic Garden, Zealandia ecosanctuary, and vibrant waterfront), and if driving from Napier to Wellington, an overnight in Martinborough (more great vineyards).
Their interest in culture led me to think they'd enjoy a Māori experience, such as viewing Māori carvings at Wellington's Te Papa, Auckland's War Memorial Museum, or Rotorua Museum and Te Puia's Māori carving school. Or a staged event, such as a Māori performance and hāngi. Bay of Islands also has Māori culture and Māori-early European settler history (Okiato or Old Russell was NZ's first capital).
I agree they'd probably enjoy the top of the South Island as well (Picton-Martinborough to Nelson-Abel Tasman), for the wine, good food, history, and splendid coastal scenery.
But two weeks is not enough time for both islands. So maybe South Island this time, North Island next time.
mlgb, Skyline Enterprises, which operates the gondola and luge rides in Queenstown and Rotorua, and the Dept. of Conservation have had talks about the possibility of a gondola for Franz Josef. Not a done deal, by any means.
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Diamantina I always enjoy your NZ posts.
I agreee with much of you have said, and as always in NZ there is too much to see in the usual short trip
Yes Auckland has a few attractions including food, and the main musuem although with a short stay I'd usually say don't give it much time.
Wellington I think has Te Papa museum, botanic gardens, attractive city waterfront walk, and cafe culture.
Christchurch (although I haven't been back after the quake) also has a good botanic garden, and I enjoyed the Art Gallery, which has since reopened. I imagine with a little research there are good shopping and restaurants to be had even post-quake.
Mt. Cook for the short walks (Hooker Valley), fantastic scenery and upscale lodging. Plus it's on the short route between Christchurch and Queenstown.
Queenstown/Arrowtown also for scenery, adventure and walks, food, nearby wineries and shopping.
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That's very kind of you, mlgb. Thank you.
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>>Also is a cruise at Milford worthwhile?<<
Yes, we certainly thought so. We took the nature cruise with Southern Discoveries, which was really well done.
Lee Ann
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We've just come back and were fortunate to have 30 days and do both islands.
Knowing what I know now, it is impossible to see NZ in 12-13 days. With only that much time, I would agree to concentrate on the South.
We skipped the glaciers (having seen some in Patagonia) and both cruises on Milford Sound and Doubtful sound (from Te Annau). Wife prefered one and I the other. Really enjoyed Te Annau, great restaurants which I'll try to review on Trip Advisor soon.
I think I would tell you to fly in and out of Queenstown for the South Island. We went into Christchurch and would do it differently next time. Loved all the hiking everywhere!
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I agree with all that has been said, except don't get discouraged by the time of year you are going. We went in the Feb 2016 that was referenced earlier for 2.5 weeks (over the entire Chinese NY) and it was more crowded than normal but not at all unmanageable and did not detract from the experience. We still had moments when we were the only ones on the road (driving around Banks Peninsula) or only ones on a trail (Lake Marian Track, FJ Glacier face - it was very late in the evening, Lake Matheson - it was pouring). I think the only real issue will be accomodations so book early. If you are truly locked in to a specific time period, don't worry and you'll still have an amazing time.
Oh, and we did parts of the NI and SI over 11 days in 1997, and it was the most amazing trip we had taken in our young lives. So it is doable but I would not recommend and would definitely focus on just the SI this time (there will definitely be a next time once you have gone once).
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For me, the best is driving down to Nugget Point in the Catlins on a clear, warm winter day, and being the only one on the track.
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Still trying to figure this out. We just do not want to move around a lot and that may be to our benefit, given the variable weather on the west coast. So I see the major areas that appeal to our interests as Te Anau, Christchurch, Queenstown, Wanaka, Mt. Cook and maybe the glaciers (Frank Joseph, Fox/Lake Matheson) or, as an alternative to the glaciers, the north with the options listed by some of the posters above (Picton, Blenheim, Nelson). I can see spending 2 or 3 nights in any of these areas and that is what we'd like to do. Also, there seems to be a lot to see in the Dunedin area - any opinions on that? Thanks - your input so far has been great. I haven't checked the flights, but no matter what we'll need to connect to and from Auckland, so if we need to arrive at Christchurch and leave from elsewhere (or vise versa) info on that would be helpful.
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Getting from Auckland to anywhere else in NZ via plane is no problem, so don't consider that an inconvenience. Last Feb we had 15 days on the ground and had similar itinerary ideas as you, so you can check out my trip report for any additional ideas. We drove a loop from and to Christchurch. With your 12 days, an alternative would be to fly into QT and fly out of CC (or vice versa) and eliminate either Mt Cook or the West Coast. So you could do QT, Te Anau, Wanaka and then up to CC via Mt Cook or via West Coast. Or the same thing in the reverse order. Food for thought.
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Craig -
Regarding Dunedin, personally, it's my least favorite place on the SI. No disrespect to Diamantina of course. It does have its charms and I'd have no trouble living there, but it's just not high on my list when I visit the SI because it's a city.
For me, NZ is all about the wilderness, tracks and scenery.
Regardless of what you choose, do be aware that with only 12-13 days you will be unable to realistically visit both the far north of the SI (Abel Tasman area) and the far south (Dunedin, Catlins), unless you plan to fly between locations and miss the bits in between.
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Paul - I can't tell you how helpful your trip report is. I have just skimmed it at this point, but our travel styles appear to be very similar right down to splitting meals with our spouses when the portions seem large . We may actually have 14 days to do this itinerary, so it should be fairly easy to adapt. Is there any particular reason that you chose to do the clockwise route rather than head towards the glaciers first?
Thanks for posting the link to your report.
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Glad I could help, Craig. I know it's wordy, so good luck getting through all of it. As for the route, good question. No real reason other than we had done that route on our honeymoon many years earlier and so we were kind of re-living that trip while improving upon it.
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No offense taken, Melnq8. Our tastes are different, if they weren't, we might all find ourselves in Dunedin, or Glenorchy, or Abel Tasman NP, or Stewart Island at the very same time of year bumping into each other like sheep crowded into a pen. I generally only give Dunedin advice if posters are planning on, or considering, coming here, as with cruise ship passengers, or if they'd like to see wildlife, in which case, it's a top destination. It's also a top draw for surfers and history buffs (such as Scots interested in seeing the "Ëdinburgh of the South").
If tourism weren't so important to the Dunedin economy (and NZ in general), I'd wish the city were less popular. Growing popularity has brought radical changes to formerly quiet, quaint and uncrowded corners of our city, places like the little bach community of Warrington (population: 400), that's struggled to cope with up to 100 freedom camping vehicles each night. But the city center can handle more tourists.
Dunedin is not to everyone's taste. It's for people who enjoy cities, and probably appeals more to those who prefer rugged coastlines over the mountains, lakes, and forests the South Island is known for (and that are only a few hours drive away from Dunedin). Cold weather tolerance is required, especially when bracing for southerlies. The metropolitan center is just a small part of Dunedin, which areawise is NZ's second largest city, covering 3350 square kilometres, more than a tenth of the Otago region.
craig, Dunedin wouldn't be practical to add to your two-week itinerary as it's a 3.5 hour drive from Queenstown, Mt. Cook Village, Wanaka, Te Anau. If you incorporate the north of the South Island into your itinerary, it wouldn't be doable unless you flew from Nelson to Dunedin (or vice versa), in which case you'd probably have to omit the West Coast. Direct flights between Dunedin and Nelson ended about a year ago, so it's now necessary to connect through Wellington or Christchurch.
But if you had more time, I'm sure you'd enjoy Dunedin because of its history. The city center is compact and walkable with many attractions. No wineries, but it has breweries, Speights and Emerson's, and a microbrewery, Steamer Basin.
Toitu Settlers Museum chronicles Otago's human settlement—from the first Maori settlers: to early 19th-century whalers and sealers: later-19th-century European, Chinese and Lebanese immigrants: to current residents. FYI: Otago includes Wanaka, Queenstown, Oamaru, Hawea, Alexandra, Bannockburn, the Maniototo, Dunedin, the north Catlins, and everything in-between. Toitu is adjacent to Dunedin Railway Station, NZ's most photographed building and home to the Taieri Gorge and Seasider rail trips, and Saturday morning Farmer's Market.
The Otago Museum has an interesting "Southern Land, Southern Peoples" gallery: http://otagomuseum.nz/whats-on/see/gallery/southern-land-southern-people
Otago Museum is adjacent to the University of Otago, NZ's first, and probably most beautiful, university If you walk through it, you'll reach the 27-hectare Botanic garden, NZ's first public botanic garden. Baldwin Street, the world's steepest residential street, is less than a five-minute drive or bus ride from the gardens.
The city center also has the Dunedin Public Art Gallery, Olveston House, Cadbury Chocolate Factory (set to close forever sometime next year), colorful murals and heritage buildings, as until around 1900 Dunedin was NZ's first great city, its growth fueled by the Central Otago gold rush and the first frozen meat shipments from NZ to Britain. As NZ cities go, it's old, home to NZ's first university (1869), medical school (1875), state-run girls' high school (1871), public art gallery (1884), daily newspaper (1861), and public botanic garden (1863). NZ's first telephone call was made from Dunedin, and it was the first to have gas lighting (1863), which you can learn about at the Dunedin Gasworks Museum. After 1900, power shifted north to Wellington, Auckland and Christchurch. Heritage buildings:
Dunedin's big draw is the wildlife of the Otago Peninsula. Its Taiaroa Head is home to the Southern Hemisphere's only mainand albatross colony (a nesting site for endangered Northern Royal Albatrosses); Pukekura Blue Penguins, a blue penguin colony; fur seals and seabirds, such as endangered Otago Shags. Taiaroa Head also has a lighthouse and Fort Taiaroa. established more than 100 years ago to counter the threat of invasion from Tsarist Russia. Long before that, it was the site of a Maori fortified village.
If you take the Elm Peninsula Encounters Wildlife Tour, you'd be taken to a private farm, where you's see endangered Yellow Eyed Penguins, critically endangered NZ Sea Lions (formerly known as Hookers Sea Lions), and a large fur seal colony made up of females and pups. You'd also be brought to Hoopers Inlet, habitat for wading birds. February is great for wildlife sightings.
More gardens at Larnach Castle and Glenfalloch Gardens. The Otago Peninsula has beautiful beaches and walking tracks, but mostly it's covered with sheep farms. Only 5 percent of the Otago Peninsula retains native forest or scrub (in sharp contrast to the abundant native forests of the South Island's West Coast, Mt. Aspiring National Park near Wanaka, Fiordland, Stewart Island, or regenerating vegetation of Abel Tasman NP).
There are also many attractions on the West Harbor, north of the city center, such as the native forest and birds of Orokonui Ecosanctuary, more beautiful beaches, and, one hour north of Dunedin, Moeraki Boulders and nearby Shag Point.
In my Dunedin neighborhood of St. Clair, the main focus is the beach, especially in summer. You'll find surfers, swimmers at the saltwater pool, seaside restaurants and cafes. At low tide, the two-mile beach is popular with walkers. Pretty Tunnel Beach Track is 10 minutes away.
Nugget Point Lighthouse in the Catlins is one hour south of Dunedin. if driving from Dunedin to Te Anau, it wouldn't be too much out of the way.
With 14 days, if you wanted to see Dunedin you could spend:
1st day/night Christchurch
2 Mt. Cook
3 Mt. Cook
4 Dunedin
5 Dunedin
6 Te Anau
7 Te Anau
8 Queenstown
9 Queenstown
10 Wanaka
11 Franz Josef
12 Franz Josef
13 Punakaiki
14 Christchurch
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We had 2.5 weeks in NZ, so we spent just under 2 weeks on SI and 4 nights on NI (we were flying out of Aukland, so had to be there anyway). So much we didn't get to on SI, but everything we saw there was fabulous and we stayed at the following places:Glenorchy, lake Moeraki, Hokitika, Arthur's Pass, Kaikoura, and Blenheim. Everything was a "highlight" but what we talk about the most was the flight from GLenorchy to Milford Sound (and back). Craig, you had Hokitika listed but there hasn't been much mentioned about it. We really loved it, did a "Luminaries" tour, shopped, went to the sweet museum, walked on the beach. More than enough to fill an overnight, could easily have done 2 but didn't want to cut down anything else.
Happy planning, we were very happy with all our our accommodations if you want suggestions.
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Tons of great ideas here - trying not to be overwhelmed...
Honing in on an itinerary that looks like this:
Day 1 arrive Christchurch late morning
Day 2 Christchurch
Day 3 Christchurch/Banks Peninsula
Day 4 Drive to Mt Cook/3 hour hike
Day 5 Drive to Wanaka
Day 6 Wanaka
Day 7 Drive to Te Anau
Day 8 Te Anau/Milford Sound
Day 9 Te Anau/Doubtful Sound
Day 10 Drive to Queenstown
Day 11 Queenstown
Day 12 Queenstown
Day 13 Depart Queenstown early afternoon
We could possibly add an extra day, but there still would not be enough time to do the glaciers, unless we cut somewhere else (Christchurch, Wanaka and/or Queenstown). My wife will need her shopping fix and most likely need the "extra" time in Queenstown and Christchurch. I do want to keep the number of one night stays to an absolute minimum.
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Will you overnight in Akaroa? If so, that will add about two hours to your drive to Mount Cook, which would make that three hour hike a bit more challenging to fit in. If you're returning to Christchurch that night, no worries, assuming the weather gods are in your favor.
Otherwise, I think it looks good.
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No, Melnq8 - returning to Christchurch. Not interested in additional one-night stays. I am sure that weather will be a factor and put a damper on this itinerary at some point, from what I've read...
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Don't blame you there Craig, not a fan of one night stays myself.
Which is exactly what we'll be doing in May when we go to Iceland, but looking at it as a recon trip, hopefully, the first, not the only.
I just realized you're planning a year in advance. If only I could be so organized.
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It will be several years before we can get back to NZ, but I'm already planning it in my head. And next time it WILL include Abel Tasman! Until then, I'll just have to be a Fodor's Forum annoyance and live vicariously through everyone else's trips.
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I'm with you, Paulg. Looking forward to my next visit to NZ, although none is in the works.
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The same day trip to Doubtful Sound will be a long, long day (boat across Manapouri, bus ride through Wilmot Pass, the Doubtful Sound cruise, then back again). It might be overkill if you're visiting Milford Sound the day before.
I'd remove one of your days in Christchurch and add it to Mt. Cook. two night in Mt. Cook will be better.
Queenstown departure is a great idea. This flight can be quite scenic, as well.
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craig, you'll see glaciers at Mt. Cook Village, all around you. The Hooker Valley track, an easy, gorgeous nearly flat track, ends at Hooker Glacier terminal lake. Kea Point Track ends Mueller Glacier lake. Lots of nice walks here. Here's a link to brochure for Mt. Cook walks:
The Glaciers Explorer trip will take you onto Tasman Terminal Glacier Lake. It's a lovely trip on clear day. You'll cruise right up to small icebergs in the lake, so close you can touch them. If you're lucky you'll see the clouds clear around Mt. Cook itself.
You can do a scenic flight over the glaciers out of Glentanner, which is on the road to Mt. Cook, just 15 minutes away.
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Diamantina - your detailed feedback has been great. So go late in the day from Christchurch to Mt. Cook and spend 2 nights? Assuming this is in case the weather is not cooperating at Mt. Cook? I am under the impression that Milford and Doubtful Sounds are different experiences. We don't mind a long day once in a while, if it is worth it. Your thoughts?
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Posted while you were. Now I understand the 2 nights. Feedback on the Fiordland plan would be helpful though...
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Yes, two nights in Mt. Cook would give you more time to enjoy it, relax, and will improve your chances of having at least one good day there. If you enjoy stargazing, it'll also double your chances of having a clear night, as this is part of an International Dark Sky Reserve.
I would advise leaving at the very least by midday from CC to Mt. Cook. You'll want to stop at Lake Tekapo to see the lake, dog statue, Church of the Good Shepherd, stretch your legs, use the facilities if necessary, maybe drive up to Mt. John Observatory (fabulous 360-degree view of the Southern Alps, lake and more). See:
This area is known as the Mackenzie Region. It's also known for its braided rivers, habitat for some of NZ's rarest birds (black stilt, black billed gulls, and black-fronted terns). NZ was only settled by humans in 1250–1300 AD. Before this, it was a land of birds, small reptiles, and a few bats (NZ's extant birds are the ultimate survivors).
You'll want to stop at the Lake Pukaki Visitor Center lookout, right before the turnoff for the road into Mt. Cook (SH80). Good views. There's an outpost for Aoraki Salmon and toilets here (otherwise, it'll be at least 45 minutes before you'll reach Mt. Cook village, barring any stops.) Lakes Pukaki, Tekapo and Ohau are a distinctive milky blue due to the fine mineral sediment deposited from the glaciers (known as glacial flour).
The road into Mt. Cook is one of my favorite short drives, highly photogenic. It just gets better and better the farther you go on it. You'll want to stop at Peter's Lookout, and probably other points as well. This view is from Peter's Lookout (not my photo):
So you can see how this drive can take longer than indicated on AA Drive Distance calculator.
More about Mt. Cook. The village is at a mere 760 metres (2,500 ft.) elevation. 29 mountains in the area rise above 3,000 metres (approx 10,000 ft.), with Aoraki/Mount Cook being the highest at 3,724 metres (12,217 ft.). So the valley's like a bowl whose sides are high glaciated mountains. Kiwi Sir Edmund Hillary practiced for his historic Mt. Everest climb on these relatively small peaks. The Ngāi Tahu (or Kāi Tahu), the South Island's principal Maori iwi (tribe), view Aoraki as the most sacred of their ancestors. Aoraki's apex is often engulfed by clouds, but lovely when, and if, its cap of clouds clears.
The West Coast glacier area is different. The glaciers terminate in temperate rainforest. Lakes, waterfalls, beaches and wetlands are all nearby. This is a greener, lusher environment than Mt. Cook village.
Melnq8 can advise you about taking the longer, more scenic, route through Rakaia Gorge from CC to Lake Tekapo (as opposed to the faster route). It's been too long since we've done this. As we live in Dunedin, we approach Mt. Cook from the south.
Yes, Milford Sound and Doubtful Sound are different. I've done the overnight cruise on Milford Sound twice, the overnight cruise on Doubtful Sound once. So I can't compare my experiences to the day cruises. I thought the overnight cruise quite memorable because you dock overnight in the middle of one of the most beautiful places in the world. It's quiet and serene. If the night is clear, you can go up to the top deck to look at the stars, there is no light pollution (except from the boat itself, but they turned off the top decks lights for me). Earlier in the evening, you're given the option to kayak in the fiord or take a zodiac boat ride. You can even go for a swim, though it's cold so you wouldn't last long. Bottlenose dolphins are commonly seen. These are among the southernmost habitats for this species.
On our first visit to Milford Sound, we took the coach from Q'town, overnight cruise and then arranged to take the scenic flight back. Unfortunately, our scenic flight was cancelled due to weather. Second time, we drove from Te Anau to Milford Sound, another classic NZ drive.
Doubtful Sound is three times longer than Milford Sound, and its sea surface area 10 times larger. It branches off into three arms and contains islands, some covered with fur seals (the Nee Islets). The mouth of Doubtful Sound, like the fiord itself, is more expansive; the opening to the ocean was rough and wild on my trip, but wonderful, too. During the trip, you'll sail into one of its arms, during which the boat will turn off its motor so you can observe the "sound of silence."I wrote a long report of my trip to Doubtful Sound, but my old computer died, taking my report with it.
I actually prefer Milford Sound because it's smaller and therefore the rock walls seem to tower around you. You'll cruise right up to waterfalls. The views of Mitre Peak are classic (not my photo):
Doubtful Sound is amazing as well, but more open and spread out; it feels vast. The cruise across Lake Manapouri is gorgeous as well, but the bus trip felt overly confining. I was in the back, where it was stuffy and I felt a little nauseated. Plus, some sandflies had made it onto the bus, and were trying to snack on me. Glad I did it, but it was a lot of trouble for an overnight cruise. Just my opinion. I met a fellow from Q'town who does the trip every year!
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Thanks Diamantina for the helpful links. I am going to add a day to Mt. Cook so our total time on the ground will be 14 days. Haven't decided about Doubtful Sound, but there is plenty of time to do that. I think we will also go a week earlier to avoid some of the Chinese New Year. We will book our international flights as soon as it is allowed (shortly) to assure we can get upgrades on the loooong legs of the trip from the east coast USA. Lodging looks quite reasonable and availability is wide open for our perspective dates right now.
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Good ideas, Craig. I agree you'll probably be better off coming a week earlier, yet still missing the national holiday, Waitangi Day, on Tuesday February 6. Yes, no need to decide about Doubtful Sound now.
It makes sense to plan early, if you can, especially when traveling at such a busy time of year. Back in December, I started perusing flights and accommodation for my own late August-early September trip to Alaska, but didn't follow through. I'll have to put it off for another year now. And just last night, I priced out hotel accommodation at the end of June for Helsinki (conference), but the city's already nearly fully booked. I'm sure, if we go, we'll find something, but I didn't expect that it would be so popular. The only other time I've been there was in spring, and it was empty. You're smart to do your research now. It'll also make things easier if you need to make last-minute changes as you'll have a good idea of your options.
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I concur w Diamantina. I love Dunedin, You should mention Mazagran as an attraction. SHAME about the Cadbury factory!
St. Clair was often my first night since it was on the way in from the Catlins.
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mlgb, it's nice to hear you enjoy Dunedin. It's fantastic when sunny and warmish, like today. I've never been to Mazagran, but Dunedin's cafe culture seems almost a vibrant as Wellington's, with new espresso bars popping up all the time. I had to give up coffee years ago.
It IS a shame about the Cadbury Factory, it's been a part of Dunedinites lives' for so long. A couple of days ago, I got into a conversation with a bus driver. I'd guess she was in her 50s. She told me she worked in the Cadbury Factory when younger, and that her mother and brother had worked there, too. Actor Sam Neill, who lives in Central Otago, has called for a boycott of Cadbury products. The closure will deeply hurt this small city.
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Diamantina -
Didn't Cadbury close years ago and then re-open? We visited a very long time ago, then heard about the closure shortly thereafter.
Maybe it was for a remodel or something? I can't remember the details.
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You can enjoy Mazagran just walking by it! Isn't the old Rialto theater around the corner?
A good time to visit Dunedin is when the rhododendrons bloom, October I think. There used to be a garden festival around that time but I don't know if it still happens.
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mlgb, sadly, the Rhododendron Festival hasn't been held for a few years. I tried to discover why it's no longer held, but no one knew. The annual event attracted around 3,000 admirers. The Botanic Garden still holds an annual rhododendron sale at that time, and the International Rhododendron Conference was held here in October, 2014. Experts say Dunedin is the world's third best place to grow rhododendrons because of our "special" climate. I'm a fan of the "world-renowned" nearly 10-acre Rhododendron Dell myself, especially the middle section, with the terraced boardwalk along a stream. It's dark with over-hanging trees, but, in season, the forest floor is laden with magenta rhododendron petals. It's almost a magical setting.
From August through October, kowhai, kaka beak, camellias, daffodils, magnolias, rhododendrons, cherry blossoms, and many other blooms provide an explosion of color. It IS a nice time.
I'll have a close look at Mazagran next time I visit the Rialto. There's another popular espresso bar a couple of doors down from the Rialto, Dog with Two Tails.
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Looks like we have hijacked Craig's post. I know if I post that I also like Invercargill no one will join in, LOL.
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LOL mlgb. I have to admit that I've thought about Invercargill, but only as a way point to and from Stewart Island.
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We spent three nights in Invercargill once. Actually enjoyed it, but it's not a place I usually recommend to first timers, who tend to be short on time.
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Three nights in Invercargill, Melnq8. I'm impressed. You really do love the South Island. I spent two nights there last winter to see some kakapo chicks, as they have a kakapo chick rearing facility. I'd seen Sirocco the kakapo before, but this was my first time seeing chicks (beyond adorable). Last year, 33 kakapo chicks fledged, boosting the overall population by 25 percent. There are fewer than 160 kakapo left.
Invercargill's Southland Museum and Art Gallery is well-worth seeing if passing through, and Queens Garden is next door. Burt Munro's World's Fastest Indian at E Hayes Hardware and Bill Richardson's Transport World are other attractions. I'd agree, it's not a recommendation for first timers, unless they're interested in wildlife and planning on visiting Stewart Island or if doing the Southern Scenic Route. Invercargill also has some beautiful heritage buildings that need some TLC. It's very flat, though.
mlgb, Craig asked about Dunedin and mentioned liking botanic gardens, so we didn't go off topic.
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Diamantina -
I just looked through my travel notes - that three night stay in Invercargill was way back in 2001 - a few years before I started writing trip reports, so I don't have many details.
I seem to remember walking through a beautiful park, eating Indian food, going to the library to send e-mail and meeting a man at an Invercargill restaurant whose brother was a pilot - he had all sorts of interesting stories about flying an Airbus. Oh yeah, and plenty of flatness.
We've driven through Invercargill many times since and spent a night there prior to our trip to Stewart Island a few years back, but other than stopping for petrol and food, it't not a place we spend much time in anymore.
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I loved the museum ...Henry!
Don't remember the exact timing of my last visit, maybe 2001 or 2002.. the downtown still had a very traditional feel as well as not being invaded by too many chain stores. As I recall there were some neat antique/junk stores and old school seafood restaurants and fishmongers which were good places to try whitebait or paua patties if you hadn't already. The Knights of NZ HQ had a factory store.(I found a babyvlamb jacket that was a stretch to buy even with the strong USD at the time but I still wear it). It was advertised in one of the tourist booklets.
For golfers there is Otatara.
I think I also used the computers at the library..no one had wifi and cellphones then.
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It was Queens Park, which has an aviary - I don't remember kakapos specifically, but there were definitely birds!
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Also bought a watch battery in downtown Invercargill once - saved me as I was going nuts without a watch
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Seems Invercargill is attractive and convenient afterall!
Melnq8, Queens Park is lovely (though flat) and has a great aviary. It has no kākāpō, which live on offshore predator-free islands, mainly Whenua Hou (Codfish Island off Stewart Island), Anchor Island (in Dusky Sound) and Hauturu o Toi (Little Barrier Island in Hauraki Gulf). Sirocco, NZ's most famous bird, bonded with humans, so I believe he lives alone in the wild on Maud Island, but occasionally visits ecosanctuaries, like Zealandia, Orokonui, Maungatautari, or Ulva Island to raise money for kākāpō conservation.
Last year was the most successful breeding season for kākāpō since recovery efforts began, but highest-risk chicks were hand-raised at a Dept. of Conservation facility in Invercargill, until they could be returned to the wild. The public was invited to view these kākāpō chicks.
The Southland Museum has long-term plans of building a permanent kākāpō chick-rearing facility for these critically endangered birds that only breed in years when there will be enough rimu fruit for the growing chicks. More about kākāpō:
I'll try not to steer this thread in a birdie direction in the future!
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Not to take the thread off topic but you piqued my interest with kakapo. I saw my one and only at the Auckland Zoo when I was there. Looks like I need to include Invercargill on my itinerary next time I'm down under.
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triplanner001, you were lucky to have seen a kākāpō. You might have have seen Sirocco:
Or maybe kākāpō chicks in need of emergency rescue and being tended to by Auckland Zoo vets.
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The one we saw was an adult male and he was one handsome fella. We were very lucky indeed.
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Hey Craig, I'm working on my trip report, we just got back. The gurus here convinced us to do the South Island only and we're glad we did. We were there 2/24-3/12 and had unbelievable weather. We'll do the north next time and can't wait to get back.
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So we had a run-in last week while in Atlanta for Dragon*Con and it is truly mind boggling that this is actually a common occurrence and can happen to anyone. Where truth and justice failed us, maybe you can be warned.
Jeff and I visited a convention in Atlanta on Sunday, September 5th. We parked in the Harris Street Lot run by EPS (Empire Parking Services) on the corner of Harris Street and Peachtree Center. We paid $20 fee at approximately 2:00 PM for the privilege of parking adjacent to the convention. That pass was not to expire until 3:00 AM on September 6th. When we left the convention at midnight, we found TWO boots on our car. We called the technician, he said we were booted somewhere around 7:30 or 8:00 PM that evening. When we asked why, as our time had obviously not expired, the technician claimed we moved our car, yet could not provide any evidence of any kind other than the statement that the "hood felt hot."
We came to Atlanta for the sole purpose of visiting the convention. We can create a time line of all of our activities through receipts and bills of sale. We were within three blocks of the lot the entire day. Further, with nearly 40,000 people in attendance on this date and people circling for parking spaces, it would have been statistically impossible to move the vehicle and return it to stall number 64 within the time period he described. We challenged him and he told us to call the police but he was not going to remove the boot. Once the officer arrived, the technician changed his story and said the wheels were hot, indicating the car had been driven off the lot. This is probably the stupidest thing ever uttered by a human being ever. It was a hot day, I'm guessing that just about anything sitting in the sun would have felt "hot".
The officer corroborated our claim, it was glaringly obvious that we had not moved the vehicle all day long. The most compelling evidence is utterly disgusting, but it was the accumulation of bird droppings on all of the cars parked along the edge of the lot. If we had moved the car, the windshield would have needed to be cleaned to even see out of it safely. But no, it reflected the same amount of filth as all the surrounding cars that had been there for the past 10-12 hours.
The next representative of the parking company that arrived on the scene said that it was a private lot, he would not remove the boot, proof or no proof, and we were free to sue them. What an a$$hole! We filed a police report and I paid the additional $75 fee under extreme duress. So far I have not been able to dispute the charge with my credit card company as I willingly gave the card and paid for the service of boot removal, which is exactly what I got. What a scam, right?
What is truly irritating is that in my research I have found that this sort of predatory and unlawful booting is not only very common with EPS but the police can't do anything about it! Also, here is the clincher, someone has to actually hire this company to provide lot services, and that is normally an adjacent business. So who employs them? Is it the Hotels? The mall?
You can read more of the same sort of complaint here,and here and here. There is even one where this company booted people of color and let all the "Americans" go free. So on top of being liars and con artists, they are bigots too. Isn't that just lovely?
It really isn't the money so much as the time that I was being illegally held against my will that gets to me. Booting should be illegal, plain and simple. A private company should not be allowed to act as judge and jury without any monitoring, the customer has zero rights here. (See more on the topic and how it is a violation of 4th Amendment rights on www.fighttheboot.com)
I will only park in a deck from now on. You can't be accused of cheating a deck. Push button, get ticket, arm goes up, pay for your car on exit. Repeat as necessary.
Oh, and while you are in Atlanta, be on the look out for this scumbag:
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If you want to know where old single serve coffee makers go when they retire it appears they turn into soap dispensers. We had several readers write in about the Nine Star Automatic Liquid-Soap Dispenser and how much it looks like the Senseo single serve coffee pod brewer. It's like they took the design of the Senseo's back tank and turned the top into a soap pump. Right?
We can only imagine the factory that had to stop making Senseos with all those molds and then some prototype molds said, "Hey - let's turn the main reservoir into a soap dispenser. Everyone will want one." Well if being on a Groupon is any indication it looks like they didn't sell very well.
If you really want a Senseo Soap Dispenser here are the specs:
The Nine Stars Automatic Liquid-Soap Dispenser features a motion sensor that detects nearby hands, sponges, or foam fingers, releasing a perfectly portioned dollop of soap.
We do miss the Senseo and since it was our first single serve coffee maker maybe having it around in a soap dispenser form will make the loss feel better. It should at least get us clean hands to make our single cups of coffee.
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by Gina B.
If you're over 35 and in the dating world, you truly understand the meaning of "it's complicated."
I have a few friends who married in their twenties. When I attended many of those weddings, I remember thinking that the bride and groom were very young – almost too young – and wondering if those marriages would last.
Fast forward several years, the predictable amount of early-weds are divorced. But in present day I find myself envying the ones who managed to keep it together and have now been married for 10+ years. Compared the rest of us, their lives are nice and simple.
The couples that I'm thinking of joined forces when neither of them owned property, had previous marriages under their belt, or children from former relationships. They didn't need pre-nups because they were on even playing fields and built everything together.
At this stage in our lives we meet members of the opposite sex, but before we get too excited, we hold our breath, waiting to learn their circumstances. Because there are always circumstances, aren't there?
The best case scenario is that you find a single man who's gainfully employed, resides alone in a property that he owns, has never been married and has no children. Even if he has been married in the past, as long as they haven't procreated, there's no lingering ex to deal with. With him, you can build your own life without intervention. No looming court appearances or filed motions, no need to protect yourself financially (at least not more than normal), and no ability for the government to set your family schedule or dictate the allocation of your income.
However, the best case scenario is painfully rare.
Usually what you'll find are children from one or more previous relationships, a tenuous relationship with the ex, custody and child support issues, marriages that haven't yet been legally dissolved, sticky employment situations, post-divorce financial devastation, questionable living arrangements, wistful feelings about past loves, etc. The list goes on and on. Unfortunately.
If you ask about the future plans of a couple that's 35+, more and more the answer is "Well . . . it's complicated."
Now . . . if you're a woman who has an equally difficult situation, the two of you might be able to commiserate and support one another. But if you're in a demographic similar to mine – the never-been-married-no-kids demographic – these circumstances are foreign to you, and will hit you like the hardest right thrown by Floyd Mayweather.
Most of us enter these relationships with the knowledge that the older we get, the higher the likelihood that we will find someone who has circumstances that will complicate their lives. And there's no way to predict how complicated your collective lives will become.
You have decisions to make, and a lot of questions to ask yourself.
The first and most important internal conversation to have is whether or not you love him, and are you in it for the long haul?
If no, you might want to look for a less complicated scenario.
If the answers to those questions are yes, then ask yourself how much complication you can take, and how much involvement you're willing to have. What is your personal limit? Will you date a man who has children, and if so, are you willing to deal with the ex-wife/baby mama drama? Do you draw the line at one child, or is it okay if he has five? If he's in court, are you prepared for all outcomes? Are you okay with the concept of rarely, if ever, being first priority in his life?
Are you financially protected? Understand the statutes in your state, and know that the laws are not in your favor. Will legal marriage enhance or further complicate your lives?
If you decide that it's safer to replicate the lives of Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell without legal reinforcement and commitment, will that be enough for you?
If the two of you decide to marry, consult a good family attorney. How will you handle your money? Will his obligations to a previous relationship be changed by the addition of your income to the household, and can your accounts be legally subpoenaed? If you decide to purchase a home together, can your finances be legally exposed?
Lots of serious stuff to think about, and none of it is fun. Complication is rarely enjoyable, but successfully navigating it will be the key to a good life.
But it kinda makes you wish you had stopped clubbing in your twenties, doesn't it? :-)
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What does it really mean to be a Global Scholar?
Minnetonka Public Schools (MN) is in the process of trying to define this term and show colleges and employers that our graduates are truly ready "to feel at home in the world." Of all the work that is currently happening in this space, North Carolina is a clear leader. Helga Fasciano has built a model for other states, school districts, and schools to consider as they embark on this 21st century journey. The following history, vision, and action plan are all lovingly borrowed from the website www.dpi.state.nc.us/globaled/overview/:
In September 2011, the North Carolina State Board of Education (SBE) formed a Task Force on Global Education to assess the state's effort to produce "globally competitive" graduates ready to live, work, and contribute in an interconnected world. Based on feedback it received, the Task Force noted six major findings and made five commitments to take supporting action to ensure every public school student graduates fully prepared for the world. This effort focuses on assuring that students understand and appreciate other countries, languages and cultures.
WORK & WORLD READY (The Six Major Findings)
Entering the heart of the 21st century, North Carolina's workforce must be nimble, savvy and worldly if the state is going to continue to prosper and be a national and global economic powerhouse. North Carolina has developed into an internationally diverse economy and society.
· 207,000 North Carolina workers are employed by foreign-owned firms.
· 309 languages are spoken in North Carolina homes of K-12 public school students.
· North Carolina is home to manufacturing facilities from 39 nations.
· $27 billion in North Carolina produced goods are exported by 9,000 companies annually.
· One in six North Carolina manufacturing jobs depends on exports.
· North Carolina ranks 3rd in the number of jobs created through international direct investment.
It is the North Carolina Board of Education's vision to assure that: "Every public school student will graduate ready for post-secondary education and work, prepared to be a globally engaged and productive citizen."
In January 2013 the State Board of Education accepted the report from its Task Force on Global Education. To produce "globally competitive" graduates, the Task Force recommended:
· Developing criteria for teachers and administrators to earn specific recognition as "Global Educators."
· Implementing a plan for statewide expanded access to dual language/immersion programs;
· Developing new school models focused on international education;
· Establishing Global-Ready designations;
· Working with the NC Department of Commerce, the State Chamber of Commerce, the NC Business Committee for Education and other business and non-profit partners to strengthen existing and develop new international relationships.
FROM PLANNING TO DOING (Data Points of NC Action)
The State Board of Education has agreements with public education systems in Spain, China, and France that support student and teacher exchanges, joint conferences and collaboration in classroom projects and professional development. Students, parents and educators across the state have embraced the initiatives.
· There are over 90 schools with dual language/immersion programs today – up from seven in the fall 2005.
· North Carolina ranks 6th nationally in sending students abroad and 19th in hosting international students.
· There are15 languages taught in NC public schools and seven represented by dual language/immersion schools.
· In the 2013-2014 school year there were 250 international teachers in North Carolina on exchange programs while 300 North Carolina teachers and administrators were abroad on exchange programs.
· Two dual language elementary schools are recognized by the Spanish Ministry of Education as International Spanish Studies Academies.
· The first statewide network of Confucius Classrooms was developed to assist districts implementing Chinese language and culture programs in partnership with the Chinese Ministry of Education.
· The Department of Public Instruction has established ongoing collaboration with the Center for International Understanding, World View, and VIF International Education to respond to the State Board's strategic plan, including expansion of professional development opportunities for educators across the state.
EMPOWER STUDENTS FOR THE GLOBAL STAGE (The Five Commitments)
Preparing students for jobs in North Carolina means empowering them to compete on the global stage. Workers entering the labor market with communication, analytical and technical skills that span international borders will make North Carolina and its workforce more attractive, place it in greater demand and enable the entire state to be more prosperous. North Carolina will be unique. Recognizing this, North Carolina's Board of Education and Department of Public Instruction are committed to:
· Producing high school graduates who are prepared and ready to embrace the challenges of a global economy.
· Providing teachers and administrators the instructional support necessary to meet the global educational objectives.
· Taking a comprehensive approach to an international education that encompasses language, economy, history and culture.
· Building partnerships between educators at all levels, business and industry, cultural and civic organizations, to take education beyond the classroom.
· Providing there sources so global education is a seamlessly integrated component of daily classroom instruction.
N.C. State Board of Education Global Education Commitments
How the N.C. Dept. of Public Instruction Will Meet These Commitments
Making global education a priority means making teacher preparation and development a priority. To be effective in the global marketplace, teachers need to embody the global awareness, competence and engagement we seek to develop in our graduates.
Robust and Cutting-edge Teacher Support and Tools:
· Develop content so global themes and problem-based learning flow throughout the curriculum.
· Implement a State Board of Education-recognized certification process in global professional development for teachers and administrators
· Require teacher preparation institutions to train future teacher to use global content
Compared to the rest of the world where multi-lingualism is the norm for all students, North Carolina students are not as globally ready.
Literacy, in any language, is best-learned young. Elementary World Language enrollment needs expansion, including dual language/ immersion programs. Students in dual language/immersion programs, when all else is equal, perform better in all subjects, and gain enhanced and critical skills such as creativity, perseverance and thinking "out of the box."
Leading-edge Language Instruction
· Develop statewide access to dual language/immersion opportunities beginning in elementary school and continuing through high school.
· Partner with institutions of higher education to increase the number of skilled K-12 World Language teachers.
· Broaden high school World Language courses to include the study of international affairs and the economies, societies and cultures of other nations along with practical survival language skills.
We must fully tap the potential of digital learning and public-private partnerships to help bring global initiatives to scale. Moving forward requires a comprehensive approach that embraces on-line learning and deploys multiple strategies, including themed schools, dual language/ immersion programs and experiential learning while using policies and structures that promote and support statewide progress.
New School Models
· Develop new school models focused on international education that include: an internationally-themed residential high school; preferences for international themes in the charter school approval; transformation models for low-performing schools; virtual schools-within-a-school and, regional dual language/immersion schools.
· Partner with businesses, non-profits and other non-governmental entities to aid school districts with implementation
Make global perspectives a part of the daily fabric of educators and students experience in school. Building networks of schools, districts, higher education institutions, third-party providers, and the business and governmental communities is critical to ensuring strong practice and innovative ideas go beyond the schools and communities in which they originate and make an impact on students across North Carolina.
District Networking and Recognition
· Expand the NC Global Schools Network to support district implementation of global content, teacher development, cutting-edge language instruction, and new school models.
· Establish a Global-Ready designation for schools and districts that provide a process and incentives for K-12 second language opportunities for all students, pathways for teachers to achieve SBE-recognized certification, career-ready employer requirements and more.
· Collect and share lessons learned on international education.
North Carolina's economy is globally connected, from economic investment and employment to trade. A key drawing card for business operating in North Carolina is the availability of globally competent workers. Maintaining and increasing our economic prosperity requires our state to be more skillful, globally engaged and ready to take on the rapidly evolving global economy. Orienting our K-12 education policy towards the global economic challenge is a necessity, not an option, to secure our future.
Strategic International Relationships
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· Name partner countries to be priority sources of information about skill requirements, K-12 curriculum and teacher professional development, as well as focus for educator exchanges and visits


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