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Thanks for the reply, Dan. So we agree about icons, then: whether or not to photograph them is really a separate issue. The ethics of disclosing locations becomes most critical with sites that are not already highly publicized.
At any rate, you've raised some important questions with this thread and your blog post. I habitually photograph locations that are relatively obscure. I find them by scouring topo maps and by doing lots of exploring and scouting, and then I usually share information about the locations quite freely. I will now think a lot more carefully about how I describe and tag my photos. Perhaps I should be more cagey about them in the future, at least when sharing on the internet. What a pity, though.
CamperJim, I have to agree with the others: you've just posted a photo of a lesser known, fragile location and have disclosed which park it's in. That kind of promotion and disclosure completely undermines your points about prudence and preservation.
Nov 20, 2012 at 06:10 PM
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This is a complex issue, and the all-too-common strategy of critiquing another's response because it isn't "black and white" enough is more about the fun of argument than about getting at truth, which can be a bit complex and often is more about the gray areas than the black and white.
(This argumentative strategy might be described as "I claim that you are not perfectly consistent in absolutely everything you say and do, therefore your points are not worth considering." It is closely related to the "arguing the absurd" strategy that begins by claiming that your opponent holds to some absurd position that you constructed merely to make him/her look silly.)
For my part, with one small caveat, I never said that it is wrong in all cases to share photographs of things that are sensitive or fragile or subject to damage. (Again,
read my actual article rather than relying on your impression of what you imagine I might think.) Frankly, I don't see the harm in camperjim's post of a photograph of a place that almost no one will locate, and even fewer will seek to find. In fact, I
posted a photo of petroglyphs
as part of my article about this issue.
I did so precisely to address* the complexity of this issue. Frankly, posting a photograph of a fairly generic desert landscape and disclosing "which park its in" hardly causes a real risk to the place. Yes, I'm sure that some among you might actually be able to guess where his photograph was made - but we're not really worried about you, and this place isn't likely to be overrun or become iconic. So there is virtually no risk to it on account of this photograph.
If I post a photograph and limit my identification of the location to, say, "Death Valley National Park," anyone who has an ounce of familiarity with that place will understand that it is
really, really big
and that only the very most serious and persistent researchers will likely have a clue of even where to look. Oh, and if you happen to know where the place is or can figure it out on the basis of what you see
and you disclose more specific information
, that is hardly the fault of the person who concealed it. You, too, perhaps have a responsibility to let the vague description stand. :-)
The photograph I posted was described as being of "petroglyphs on a rock face overlooking desert terrain." Now, unless you want to believe that petroglyphs don't exist in the desert terrain - thus rendering your participation in a discussion that began in response to the protection of petroglyphs in desert terrain - this caption discloses nothing of use to a person wondering where this is. A second point that I hoped to illustrate with that photograph was that it is possible to contrive to show the thing in ways that avoid giving away its precise location. If anyone reading this is familiar with my photography, they might recall that many of my landscape and similar photographs tend to hold everything in relatively sharp focus.
At the time I made this photograph
to shoot at an aperture that would blur out the background terrain, and I chose to include only a fairly nondescript and generic portion of that terrain.
So, I'm not saying that one cannot photograph places that are precious and sensitive and fragile - not at all. What I am saying is that somewhere between the absurd extremes of "Don't photograph anything" and "Photograph it and then lead others there too!" an ethical balance is to be found that isn't all that hard to understand or act upon.
(Oh, and I'm
that there have been and will be inconsistencies in my own presentation of photographs and text. I'm human, and my sensitivity to and understanding of these issues has evolved over the past few years - as I wrote. Just this morning I found and retitled a photograph of mine that gets some attention here and there - it now has a title that doesn't refer to the geographical location of the subject, and I have made my text description more generic. It wasn't that hard... and I'm sure there will be more to fix.
Take care,
* I chose to post the photo rather than explicitly comment - no doubt at length - about how an image of a fragile thing might be shared ethically. In the back of my mind, I might have been thinking of the first sentence of something Ansel Adams purportedly said/wrote: "When words become unclear, I shall focus with photographs. When images become inadequate, I shall be content with silence."
Nov 20, 2012 at 07:33 PM
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Is all of that a reply to me, Dan? I haven't argued with any of your points; as far as I can tell, we're in complete agreement about all of them. I did suggest that your discussion of icons was a digression, and you agreed with me. My fear was that your thread would veer off into a discussion of icons and we wouldn't get anywhere with the real issue of discretion in identifying locations.
As for CamperJim's photo and location information: it does undermine his point a bit, no? That's all I said, and I was just agreeing with others who had posted before me.
I've apparently put you on the defensive for some reason, Dan, but I haven't disagreed with any of your points. I think this is an important issue you've raised (as I've said already), and I'm being completely genuine about my reconsideration of photo descriptions and tagging.
Nov 20, 2012 at 08:33 PM
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Phrasikleia wrote
Is all of that a reply to me, Dan? ...
No, it is a general continuation of the topic, based on various responses and on further thoughts about this issue.
Nov 20, 2012 at 09:11 PM
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Dan wrote: "Frankly, I don't see the harm in camperjim's post of a photograph of a place that almost no one will locate, and even fewer will seek to find." I hope you are right and my description of 20-200 miles from Badwater was vague enough.
Anyway, thanks, but there is little reason to support my discussion. I hope I did not take away from the points you posted about. I merely wanted to point out that it is not easy to decide what is appropriate when we post images. I will return to my usual position of enjoying the more positive aspects of the Landscape Forum, in silence.
Nov 20, 2012 at 09:22 PM
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In addition to photography, I am also an avid birder.
In my local birding group, I attempted to establish a discussion regarding birding ethics. The issues are similar to the ones that the OP brings up with photography. When rare birds appear, they can attract so much attention that the birders can stress the bird. So should information about rarities be shared? If so, with who? Should their be any limits? How to balance access with preservation?
I found that as a group, we were unable to have this conversation. Even though people's opinions were not that far apart, it was so devisive and quickly became so negative that the issue was dropped, and we moved on to other things.
I wished at the time that I had the skills to allow people to discuss ethical issues respecfully and constructively. I still have that wish.
Nov 20, 2012 at 10:22 PM
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jstephens62 wrote
I found that as a group, we were unable to have this conversation. Even though people's opinions were not that far apart, it was so devisive and quickly became so negative that the issue was dropped, and we moved on to other things.
I wished at the time that I had the skills to allow people to discuss ethical issues respecfully and constructively. I still have that wish.
I'm often a bit surprised by the defensive tone when this sort of topic comes up in the forum. Though I suppose, in a way, I shouldn't be, given that
my own
initial reaction when my friends Charlie, Mike, and Karl took be to task over my own sharing was somewhat defensive - though because of our friendship and mutual respect, I think I tempered my response long enough to better understand their point, their rationale... and ultimately to agree with them.
I think that virtually all of us who go to great lengths to be in these places - because "great lengths" are what it takes - and who treasure them can see, if we think about it even a bit, that access is a two-edged sword. It is the old story of "loving something to death" if we aren't careful.
And I can report, from my own experience, that it isn't that hard to be a bit more circumspect, to think about how to name and describe photographs, to give up the self-aggrandizement that can come (as I know all too well) from being the source of information about special places. Been there. Done that. But it is really just fine to say a lot less, or to talk/write about other aspects of your photographs than the where and when aspects - and in the process help protect these places
encourage people to think more deeply about what a photograph can portray and say.
Take care,
Nov 20, 2012 at 11:28 PM
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There is a bit more information from the local Bishop News sources here:
(A bit different than the LA Times story that many have seen.)
There may also be an effort to raise a larger reward for the solution of this crime than the few thousand dollars already raised locally. Friend and fellow landscape photographer Jean Day has shared the following:
"I'll be sending a check to help add to the reward for finding these guys. Here's the address:
Bernadette Lovato, Field Manager
Bureau of Land Management
Bishop Field Office
351 Pacu Lane, Suite 100
Bishop, CA 93514
Phone: (760) 872-5000
Fax: (760) 872-5050
Office Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m., M-F"
Nov 21, 2012 at 03:57 PM
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An archeologist whose work gives him responsibility for antiquities and sites in the area of the theft has left a short but very interesting post in a follow-up discussion at my blog:
Nov 22, 2012 at 05:29 PM
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So very sad...
I was right there in April, taking pictures. The place is very desolate and not very well known, which made the work of the vandals pretty easy. I really, really want the thieves to be found and properly punished, although it will not restore the loss.
Nov 23, 2012 at 03:51 AM
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It is sad, but seems to be the way the world is going. Extreme ease of accessing information, population explosion... One thing I notice when I go out to the SW is that some of the areas maybe only 5 years ago that few knew of or could find are now becoming sort of tourist traps. One of the best books that helped me immensely find some of these lessor know gems, also has done tremendous damage in increasing traffic there. Honestly, I don't know what the answer is. I believe creation is for us, but we need to take care of it as well.
Nov 23, 2012 at 06:56 PM
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Mark Metternich wrote
It is sad, but seems to be the way the world is going. Extreme ease of accessing information, population explosion... One thing I notice when I go out to the SW is that some of the areas maybe only 5 years ago that few knew of or could find are now becoming sort of tourist traps. One of the best books that helped me immensely find some of these lessor know gems, also has done tremendous damage in increasing traffic there. Honestly, I don't know what the answer is. I believe creation is for us, but we need to
take care of it as well.
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+1, Mark.
Among people I shoot with, there is a usually unspoken (but occasionally clearly articulated) agreement that even
don't tell one another about certain very special places that are not yet overly known and over-run... and that we don't press one another for information when it isn't offered.
Eventually, as we prove our worthiness to one another, we do share things. But some things are special enough - and some of us have watched a few things get ruined by the crowds - that it is worth keeping secrets and even worth giving up the potential of acquiring the knowledge yourself.
Nov 23, 2012 at 10:11 PM
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Education and strict management of these historically significant sites is what is required. Keeping them a secret only works for a while...but sooner or later the secret is out as can been seen from places like Antelope canyon and the Wave. It wasnt long ago these were just secret places no look at them. We are all naïve to think that without some level of government control, these secret places will remain secret and untouched.
In the Canadian Rockies there are some most beautiful locations that are overrun by people on a daily basis, basically killing the fragile ecosystem that evolve there. There are other sites like Lake Ohara that have strict access control which remain for the large part pristine, yet allow people to access and enjoy this beauty. If it wasnt for this intervention by the Park Rangers, places like Lake Ohara would be no different than the overrun Lake Louise.
Education and access control is what is required.
Nov 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM
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I've been so several photographer's galleries where they try to hide the location for fairly iconic places. I feel like they did this to encourage the tourists to buy his/her prints rather than go there and take their own shots and not out of any concern to preserve the location. I can't help but feel that many photographers feel the same way. They would prefer to keep locations secret to make their shot more exclusive.
Ironically it's possible that if this spot were more well known it would have been better protected. Delicate Arch is a junk show at sunset, but with all the people there it's kept safe from vandalism. Newspaper rock has surprisingly little damage done to it despite being 40ft from a road to a national park.
I see Texas and Utah as dichotomies for how to protect landmarks. Almost everything is public land in Utah and it enjoys the protection of rangers and enough traffic to discourage vandalism. Texas has a wide range of natural beauty but much of it is on private land, which keeps those treasures safe from the unwashed masses. I'd rather put my trust others to enjoy the world responsibly than have it stored away and preserved, but without ever getting to experience it.
Nov 24, 2012 at 12:51 AM
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camerausername, I'm afraid that evidence doesn't support a number of your hunches.
"Ironically it's possible that if this spot were more well known it would have been better protected."
It is true that a kind of protection can be afforded to places that are frequently visited. However, there are two major problems with that notion. First, there are far too many of these places to protect them once their locations are revealed - as in the case of the story reported here. Second, I can tell you from visiting accessible sites and sites that are not well-known that the prevalence of damage is worse in the former than the latter - accessibility is far from a guarantee of protection. I saw plenty of evidence of this in national parks in Utah last month.
"I've been so several photographer's galleries where they try to hide the location for fairly iconic places. I feel like they did this to encourage the tourists to buy his/her prints rather than go there and take their own shots..."
I've heard a very small number of stories of photographers who think that protecting "their places" or "their views" from others will guarantee the specialness of their photographs. Most talented photographers disagree, emphatically. In fact, a common point of discussion is to acknowledge that if Great Photographer A stands next to Great Photographer B at some location, the two of them will likely create rather different photographs, and if Great Photographer A or B stands next to Duffer X, Duffer X's work will still not look at all like the work of the better photographer. In fact, most photographers who are hesitant to be specific about their locations are this way because a) they genuinely want to protect the places, and b) the specific location isn't important, the photograph itself is. Speaking for myself, the idea of keeping a location exclusive so that others won't photograph it never even crosses my mind. I can find plenty of my own subjects and ways of seeing them, even in places where others shoot, sometimes alongside me.
"Almost everything is public land in Utah and it enjoys the protection of rangers and enough traffic to discourage vandalism."
I'm afraid that you are a bit optimistic about the situation in Utah. Head down Capitol Gorge sometime and see the wall of pioneer engravings now adorned with contemporary scribblings by vacuous tourists - in an area in which there are plenty of signs about this and even requests to report violators. Or head away from the main roads into slightly less civilized areas and note the plethora of similar scribblings close to the trailhead... which diminish to almost none a bit further out.
"I'd rather put my trust others to enjoy the world responsibly than have it stored away and preserved, but without ever getting to experience it."
And no one is trying to create the world you describe here. It is certainly quite possible to experience this world on a number of levels. The newbie can easily find and experience these things in more public locations such as national parks. Hiking guides will get you to more of them with just a bit of reading. Dig more deeply into the experience of these places and you will expand your knowledge of and appreciation for them... and probably see more damage and perhaps begin to understand why it doesn't help to encourage everyone to go to everything.
Finally, some words from an archaeologist whose responsibilities include the area of the eastern Sierra where the gross destruction and theft occurred. (He has asked that I point out that his opinions are his and he is not speaking for anyone else, and that his opinions come from extensive experience with this subject.):
"Dan I fully agree with
your ethical position on this
matter. Your experience based perspective is more sage and persuasive than that of the more naive comments posted here. I am the archaeologist responsible for protecting literally thousands of archaeological sites on public lands in the Eastern Sierra. The balance between 1st Amendment rights and resource protection is a difficult one to establish. Too often ego driven publications by short sighted individuals result in the degradation of these finite resources.
Your guidelines should be adopted by all professional photographers and webmasters
. It is true that we can only control our own behavior, but we should not allow the lowest common denominator to undermine our moral footings."
Nov 24, 2012 at 02:57 AM
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I'm not trying to say that everyone should go everywhere, I'm saying that if the secrets are recognized and properly protected, they would be better off than trying to rely on people to not share the secrets. Your post mentioned how easy it is for information to spread now. Once it does inevitably spread then the "secret spots" are more vulnerable without protections in place.
Nov 24, 2012 at 07:03 AM
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I hope the person or people responsible get caught and are locked away for a very long time, to serve as a warning to others who would contemplate such an act.
However I'm not a fan of hiding art to "keep it safe". Problem with that is where do you draw the line? Do we not show photos online, in fear criminals will search for and find the location? I really don't think that is the answer, as a motivated criminal will still easily find these locations. The information is already out there, posted in everything from books to blogs, easy to find. Also these days its easy to narrow down locations, by just seeing a photo and using mapping software like google earth.
I believe art should be shared and enjoyed, not hidden away. Sure some will get stolen and vandalized, but we should not live in fear of thieves. They should fear us. Art thieves have been around since the beginning of time. Only real answer I believe is to make penalties very harsh, and make public examples out of people when caught, to discourage others.
Hiding art is like having a fast great handling sports car and not driving it. Or having a sexy girl and not sleeping with her. I just don't understand the point. Such a waste.
Does anyone have photos of the art stolen? So we can keep an eye out for it. The news stories only show cut pieces of rock. Photos of the actual artwork would be helpful in catching the thieves, so we can bring them to justice.
Nov 24, 2012 at 09:54 AM
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Dan...., while I agree with all your points, I also have to say I think the battle is already lost. As an example.......
- There is a site in Utah not too dissimilar in nature from the petroglyph site that was destroyed. I.e., it's not
well known, but enough so that I've seen maybe half a dozen shots of it posted on this site over the time I've been a member.
- Within 15" of reading the discussion here and your blog post, I was able to...
* Find a YouTube vid of the hike to the site.
* A site dedicated to
selling to photographers
maps/directions to a gaggle of 'found' locations.
* Find, dl & install an Android 'map' app with a
description of the site and maps (your choice of satellite or terrain) of the hike along with waypoints and pics.
The above should in no way be interpreted to suggest photographers shouldn't follow the guidelines you've put forth. I just have little confidence that photographers keeping mum on the subject is likely to prevent the sort of destructive activity that occurred at the petroglyphs.
Nov 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM
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It is sad and upsetting to here that someone would destroy art/history like that.
I must say though. I think some of us need to get off our high horse. I just cant believe that because of your images of secret locations is causing vandals to go and destroy your precious spot. We need to give more credit to photographers in general. The ones here looking at your photography are just like you. they want to photograph mother nature/others at her best. You being there is "destroying" the location just as much as another photographer being there. the more people going there will degrade that location but, I dont think they are going to make a national park out of the location because you took a picture there. would you have known about half dome if "they" kept it a secret? have you contributed to the degradation of any national park by walking the trails? if you ever walked a man made trail to a location for a photo shoot then you have done your part in "destroying" the landscape. Like i said, I just think we need to get off your high horse and get back to being mortal.
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You will learn how, in a few steps, to find the area of a rectangle by knowing that its diagonal is the hypotenuse of the rectangle's width and height. Two methods are limited in scope to a single Pythagorean Triple and thus are not universally applicable.
3-4-5 Pythagorean Triple Method
1Let the diagonal = c^2 and let the height and width of the rectangle = a^2 and b^2, respectively.
2Let the diagonal = 225, and let its square = 60,025; you know that a Pythagorean Triple is 3-4-5. with the hypotenuse equal to 5, so now you want to know how to get the other sides, given that information.
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- Direct relative measurement of the sides of the rectangle also helps in finding its area, but error can creep in with direct measurement so formulation is needed to provide a more exact answer, typically.
Direct Proportional Adjustment
1Try Direct Proportional Adjustment of the 3-4-5 Triple. If you are given c = 7.5, then divide 7.5/5 to arrive at 1.5; then multiply 4*1.5 to arrive at b = 6 and multiply 3* 1.5 to arrive at a = 4.5; 4.5^2 + 6^2 = 56.25 and c=7.5^2 = 56.25 also, so side a= 4.5 and side b = 6 and the area = 4.5* 6 = 27 square units.
Cartesian Graph Approach
- Try also the Cartesian Graph approach, which is a very reliable method:
- Draw the diagonal hypotenuse starting at point {0, 0} using a ruler, and allowing for approximation that may be required. If the length of the diagonal is 7.2 units, then its slope depends upon a and b of a^2 + b^2 = (7.2)^2 = 51.84, making a and b about 5 and 5.18 if the rectangle is close to a square; therefore, slope m = (y2-y1) / (x2-x1) = (5.18-0)/(5-0) = 5.18/5 = 1.036; or just a shade greater than 1. If the rectangular form is given and it is not close to a square, proportion it with a ruler, and make adjustments accordingly.
- Draw the surrounding rectangle with very straight lines;
- Let 5^2 + 5.18^2 = 51.8324 whereas 7.2^2 = 51.84 -- you are probably close enough - check the problem requirements for tolerance/accuracy/exactitude required.
- You're done! The area of the rectangle is 5 * 5.18 = 25.9
Use Proportions
1You are given the length of the diagonal. Use your compass and rule to make a line equal to the diagonal in a separate area.
2Use your compass and rule to place straight lines equal to sides a and b alongside diagonal c.
3Use proportions to measure the lengths of sides a and b. That is, find the relation a:b:c where c is of given length longer than a or b and a is less than b. Indirectly measure a and b and fill in the proportion to obtain lengths a and b.
4Check your measurement by using the Pythagorean Theorem.
5Calculate the area of the rectangle as side a times side b.
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Actually, don't EVER use LMR-400 for a duplex operation. There is some
interaction between the braid and the foil shield that causes noise and
harmonics in a duplex operation. Actually, it always does it, but in a
simplex operation, it doesn't cause a problem. The RG-214 has a double
braid and does not have the silver/aluminum interaction and is a good choice.
If you MUST have more information, I will dig it up for you. I learned this from the experts on the Yahoo Repeater Group...
Also, another trick is to spin the rotor fully clockwise. Bring the coax up to just below the rotor and then wrap it loosely around the rotor in a clockwise rotation 1-turn.this is the tightest this loop would ever get. As the rotor turns counter-clockwise, this single loop will open up (like a rope opens up when you twist it opposite of its natural twist). Its easier on the coax and it doesn't flex as much as the normal way of looping past the rotor.
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The Association of Independent Meat Suppliers (AIMS) has launched the Assured Meat Processing Standard (AMPS), which will become United Kingdom Accreditation Service (UKAS) approved to EN45011.
Covering beef, lamb, pork and poultry, AIMS will be working with all sectors in the supply chain to promote the new standard.
The standard has been created in response to businesses requesting an alternative option to successfully service their demanding customer base while provenance will play a key role in the scheme, which will guarantee British origin.
A number of meat businesses across the supply chain have already signed up to progress trial audits. AHDB Beef & Lamb has approved AMPS for use in the Quality Standard Mark (QSM) scheme when product is Farm Assured, fully traceable using an assured chain and meets scheme criteria. AIMS is "looking forward to helping AHDB further to develop the QSM which focuses on both provenance and meat eating quality".
AIMS will also be approaching the British Meat Processors Association, which manages the pork QSM with a view to AMPS being accepted up to the cutting and mince level of production.


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After 27 years of serving as the manager for Manchester United soccer team in England, Sir Alex Ferguson has announced he will be retiring at the end of the current season.
The 71-year-old, who is regarded as the most successful manager in English soccer, broke the news about his intentions to retire through a statement in The Guardian.
"The decision to retire is one that I have thought a great deal about and one that I have not taken lightly. It is the right time. It was important to me to leave an organisation in the strongest possible shape and I believe I have done so. The quality of this league winning squad, and the balance of ages within it, bodes well for continued success at the highest level whilst the structure of the youth set-up will ensure that the long- term future of the club remains a bright one," he wrote.
According to Yahoo! News, Everton manager David Moyes is the current favorite to replace Ferguson. Real Madid manager Jose Mourinho has also been rumored as a candidate for the job.
While working with Manchester United Ferguson has won 13 league titles, two Champions Leagues, the Cup Winners' Cup, five FA Cups and four League Cups.
To read Ferguson's complete statement visit The Guardian.


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text: I had a warm day here in Southwest Ohio so I took the new MES 30 GEN II out on the patio to do it's seasoning run. I wanted to create a video showing the differences in the GEN I and GEN II as I was a little confused myself and I hope this may help others. I also added a few comments from my seasoning cook even though it did get dark on me at the end. I made some verbal mistakes (nervous) but had fun correcting myself with captions when I reviewed the video. So don't be too hard on me! Remember the main focus of this video was to identify the differences in the GEN I & II, it is not a how to use video or complete review as I plan on follow up videos with my first cook (Boston Butt) and then another when I add the Masterbuilt Cold Smoke Unit. Tell me what you think (be kind) and give me tips as to things I might include in my follow up videos. HAPPY SMOKING!


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Progression agreements
A key part of the National Arts Learning Network's body of work was the development of a model FE to HE progression agreement. Designed as a framework to promote progression into HE for vocational learners in the performing and visual arts, it was developed from existing good practice in NALN institutions.
The tool provides a framework for the continued development of practice around progression agreements following NALN's incorporation into ukadia.
The model progression agreement offers clear objectives in terms of outcomes and takes into account the wide range of practice and activity to be found in progression work across the member institutions. As such it offers flexibility in terms of how these outcomes are achieved.
You can download information about NALN's progression agreements at the bottom of this page.
The aims of FE-HE progression agreements
Progression agreements aim to:
-increase the numbers of vocational learners progressing successfully to appropriate higher education provision locally and nationally across ukadia's member institutions;
-support students in making informed and appropriate progression decisions;
-offer clear and accurate information around higher education finance including bursaries, grants and loans;
-improve understanding across FE and HE institutions of vocational programmes and how these link to vocational pathways;
-evaluate the effectiveness of the progression agreement to ensure that it remains fit for purpose.
NALN's model FE to HE progression agreement and two example progression agreements can be downloaded here:
NALN Model Progression Agreement
NALN Example Progression Agreement
NALN Example Progression Agreement information for students
Targeting and monitoring
Alongside the model progression agreement, targeting and monitoring guidelines have proven useful for member institutions to track students through progression agreements onto courses, using data that is already collected by progression managers. Engaging progression managers in this process of data collection has been particularly useful in preparing staff for HEFCE's Widening Participation Strategic Assessment, introduced in summer 2009.
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P630i Security Card Printer
The P630i printer's dual-sided printing and single-sided lamination provide the maximum amount of flexibility in protecting driving licences, national healthcare cards and other secure ID cards. The optional ID/Key prevents unauthorised printer use, while the ID/Log driver utility builds a customisable card-transactions record in the printer's host computer for added security.
Zebra P640i Security card printer
The P640i printer's dual-sided printing and one-pass dual-sided lamination provide the maximum amount of flexibility. The P640i printer has all the security features of the P630i printer, plus its patented linerless lamination dramatically reduces the cost of laminate material and is waste-free.
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Natalie's Bartender Tom Laslavic wins title best bartender in Maine
For Immediate Release
March 1, 2012
Gillian Britt
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Natalie's Bartender Tom Laslavic from Natalie's in Camden Wins Signature Event
PORTLAND, Maine – Bartender Tom Laslavic from Natalie's, Camden Harbour Inn, Camden, earned top honor during last night's Signature Event at the Portland Harbor Hotel. The sold-out Maine Restaurant Week event, sponsored by MEMIC, Maine Beverage Company, Camden Harbour Inn, Moet Hennessy, Double Cross Vodka, Native Maine Produce and Cabot Cheese had twelve bartenders competing. Some of Maine finest top mixologist's from fine dining restaurants from towns including Portland, Freeport, Brunswick, Bath and Camden crafted unique and original creations for the Signature Event.
Laslavic's drink, "Conundrum #1" was inspired by Caradaramo Liquor an Italian herbal liquor (Amaro is the Italian word for bitter). The drink was made up of 10 Cane Rum, Grand Marnier and house made bing cherry bitters made from dried Amarone style cherries from Wisconsin, topped with a splash of Soda and garnished with brandied cherries from France. All cocktails were judged by professional judges including top mixologist John Myers, John Gertsen and Shannon Bryan (MaineTodayMedia). Winner of the people's choice competition was Azure Café in Freeport with a basil mojito.
Laslavic won also the title best bartender in Maine in 2010 and was first runner up in 2011. Laslavic is the only bartender in Maine included in The American Cocktail Book, published in 2011 by IMBIBE magazine a national authority for cocktails, mixology and bartending. Natalie's at Camden Harbour Inn was also awarded for serving the best martini in Maine by Downeast Magazine in 2011. Tom Laslavic currently coordinates the bar program at Natalie's Restaurant at the Camden Harbour Inn.
"We are proud that Tom again created a winning cocktail, although not completely surprised he did. His passion and knowledge are ingredients for perfection and our guests know by now that when you get a cocktail from Tom, you get something special" says Raymond Brunyanszki, co-owner Camden Harbour Inn. Brunyanszki continues: " Like with our culinary presentation we work very hard to give our guests something special and unique, something you not necessarily could create at home. We are working with the best people in the industry and I am truly happy that they get the recognition they deserve "
Natalie's will be serving the winning "Conundrum #1"" during Maine Restaurant Week Thursday March 1 through Saturday March 10 . The restaurant also offers a special 3-course menu (http://www.mainerestaurantweek.com/restaurant/105/Natalies-Restaurant)
For more information visit www.camdenharbourinn.com or contact Natalie's restaurant at 207 236 7008
About Camden Harbour Inn and Natalie's:
The nationally acclaimed Camden Harbour Inn consistently receives praise from publications such as Departures, Travel & Leisure, National Geographic Traveler, Yankee Magazine and Dispatches for its world-class service and amenities and unparalleled views. Awarded among "51 favorite splurges in the world" by Sherman's Travel, the Inn attracts an upscale clientele who return often to experience one of New England's most tranquil, inspired and treasured settings.
The Inn's on-premise restaurant, Natalie's, has been called the finest gourmet eatery in Maine and was awarded Best French Restaurant in New England by opentable.com. Executive Chef Geoffroy Deconinck was nominated by Food & Wine for People's Best New Chef Award 2011.
Natalie's offers Modern French cuisine with an emphasis on Maine seafood. The Wine Spectator-honored wine list features more than 250 specialty wines. The restaurant serves a four course Lobster Tasting menu in the summer and fall, in addition to extensive a la carte offerings and a Chef's Tasting menu.
The Inn and Natalie's have both earned the prestigious AAA Four Diamond Award and the Inn is a member of Condé Nast Johansens.
He did not win the title of "Best Bartender In Maine." He was actualy awarded "Judge's Choice: Best Cocktail." His cocktail was chosen as the best entered in a tasting contest of signature drinks with a handful of other entrants. In the same competition, his drink lost out to a cocktail from Azure Cafe in the "People's Choice: Best Cocktail." To say that he won a title that wasn't even awarded is very misleading and factually inaccurate.


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SANTIAGO, Jan 14 (Reuters) - The chief executive of world No.1 copper producer Codelco said on Thursday that the Chilean state-owned miner will implement new cost-cutting measures to save $574 million in 2016 as the sector reels from a steep slump in metals prices.
Pizarro said Codelco was aiming for cash costs of $1.255 per pound this year, versus the $1.386 in 2015.
"Our commitment is to do everything possible to control our costs, and generate a reduction of 13.1 cents per pound (in cash costs)," said Pizarro.
In recent months, Codelco has already laid off workers, scaled back the size and investment needed at some of its projects, and implemented other cost-cutting measures.
Codelco, which hands over all of its profits to the state, is seen posting pre-tax profits of $703 million and producing 1.704 million tonnes of copper in 2016, said Pizarro.
The company is seeking to implement an ambitious $22 billion multi-year investment plan to open new mine projects, like Ministro Hales, and revamp older ones, such as Chuquicamata, where output is declining.
Copper hit 6-1/2-year lows on Thursday on concerns a spike lower in the oil price foreshadowed weaker global economic growth, but a recovery in Chinese shares helped limit losses.
Chile's state copper commission Cochilco on Thursday forecast average copper prices of $2.15 per pound for 2016 and $2.20 per pound in 2017.
"We believe that $1.98-$1.99 per pound is the point at which (copper prices) should rebound," said Pizarro. (Reporting by Fabian Cambero; Writing by Anthony Esposito; Editing by Chris Reese)


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OSAKA Japan (Reuters) - Japan's Sharp Corp said on Wednesday it has not received a proposal from Hon Hai Precision Industry Co to resume discussions about the Taiwanese company taking an equity stake, after talks on an equity tie-up ended between the two.
Hon Hai Chairman Terry Gou told a Japanese magazine in an article published this month that his company was still interested in investing in Sharp.
Sharp Representative Director Tetsuo Onishi told a shareholders' meeting: "At this time, we have received no proposals."
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if no one here knows, then try asking on wiibrew forums but dont shout about the chip, just slip it in quietly.
im assuming you updated or something???
My Wii has a WiiKey, pretty much thats it. No homebrew, soft mod etc.
Went to turn it on and got the following:
You tried to access the address marc:FIX/US/ENG/Setup/startup_index1.html, which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
. Make sure your internet connection is active and check whether
other applications that rely on the same connection are working.
I cannot get anything else to work. PERIOD end of discussion. What am I missing?? Is there any way to put a new image of the OS on the Wii hard drive by hooking it up to a laptop? I'm totally at a loss. Any help would be highly appreciated. I don't want to listen to the kids moan about no Wii much longer LOL
if no one here knows, then try asking on wiibrew forums but dont shout about the chip, just slip it in quietly.
im assuming you updated or something???
DOnt know what happened. DIdnt updateor anything. Turned it on and now its doing this. Have tried savemii iwth a gamecube controller. Get to the screen that says 3.4(USA) and then cannot get anything else to happen. Have tried a couple of the unbrick discs and even auto boot and nothign at all. Is there any way to use my laptop to flash the Wii OS?
the only way to flash the os is using bootmii or a nand programmer such as infectious mod chip, which involves soldering the chip to the nand!!!!!!!!!!!
or sneak into the nintendo repair factory and use there magic fixing machines to repair it
You updated from an out of region disk and if corrupted your settings, like a format. The system is trying to startup with the first boot options, but your semi-bricked from the out of region update. jamieupanddown is correct that updating to 4.1 with NSMB will fix this for you.
It probably will not boot, so use Wii Autoboot Creator.zip to set the ios to autoboot, then burn it. I am going to assume your wii is pal, yes?
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I bought it here in California so I assume it's NTSC. After I download and burn the above file do I put it in the Wii in recovery mode or no? Will it boot up and allow me to follow your instructions or do I have to tweak it before I burn the disc. Also should I se DVD+R or DVD-R? Any help at this point s greatly appreciated. Thanks!! Ok....I got it. Which image should I put onto the autoboot disc?? I hope this works
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You issue is srange
marc:FIX/US/ENG/Setup/startup_index1.html is a usa ntsc error
and you have 3.4u. I would only expect to see this if you had 3.4e. Not sure, always a new mystery. You don't know what you did?
Just set the iso of nsmb ntsc to autoboot, then boot into RM and put the disk in, wait a bit as loading is slow from RM. If it does not work, reboot with the disk in and try that way. If that fails, your chip probably needs to be configured to autoboot, which can only be done on a functional wii.
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Where can I fnd nsmb NTSC? Sorry for all f the questions.
Nevermind.....just pulled my head out of my arse and figured I out LOL. Will let yo know in the morning how it works out. Thank you!
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How long should it take before I see something after booting in RM and inserting the disc? Do I need to push any buttons on the GC controller?
If this fails are there any other ways to get this Wii back up and running?
Is there any way to get the Wii to boot fron the SD card? If I can boot form SD is it possible to create a nand from my operational Wii and them put the SD into the brick and force a start from there?
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16 Students Arrested in Lunchtime Brawl at Cardozo High
Wednesday, February 11, 2009
More than a dozen students at the District's Cardozo High School were injured yesterday and 16 were arrested after a large group of girls began fighting in the basement lunchroom and several smaller fights broke out nearby, police and witnesses said.
Authorities said that most of the injuries were minor but that one student, a 17-year-old male, was knocked unconscious in a fall and suffered a head injury. They said the youth was taken by ambulance to Howard University Hospital and regained consciousness on the way.
Alan Etter, a spokesman for the D.C. fire department, said that about 15 students complained of injuries and that five were treated at hospitals.
"Basically it was a huge brawl going on in the cafeteria, and we had to evacuate the hallways," said Laneisha McCauley, a ninth-grader at the 816-student school in the Columbia Heights area of Northwest Washington. "I thought it was ridiculous. Crazy."
D.C. police Cmdr. Brian Jordan of the school security unit said the brawl, which began about noon, apparently stemmed from a dispute outside of school.
"Evidently there was an incident that occurred after school [Monday] between some of the young ladies, and it spilled over into the school," Jordan said. "All indications are it might have occurred over something as minor as somebody pulling somebody's hair."
He said officers assigned to Cardozo called for help about noon after they encountered "a large group of females engaging in just a big fight" in the lunchroom.
Patrol cars from across the department's 3rd District converged on the school, in the 1200 block of Clifton Street NW. "As a result of the large fight, several other melees began to erupt" near the lunchroom and on the first floor, Jordan said.
Of the 16 students arrested, 15 are juveniles and one is an 18-year-old male, Jordan said. He said one of the students was charged with misdemeanor assault on a police officer, two with aggravated assault and most of the rest with disorderly conduct.
Students resumed classes after the fights were quelled, Jordan said. To prevent groups of young people from congregating outside the school after dismissal, officials had students leave at staggered intervals after 3 p.m., and police officers stationed around the school forced them to keep moving until they were out of the immediate neighborhood.
"It was calm at first, and then it was shocking," said ninth-grader Wendy Holmes as she left the school to walk home.
"People don't like each other, so they start fighting," said ninth-grader Tianna Taylor. "It's wild. Crazy. Indescribable. . . . People fighting everywhere you look."


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Representing a rare opportunity this limited edition TRD Hilux with its unmatched reputation and robust reliability, is driven by Toyota's smooth 4.0-litre petrol engine supplying plenty of power! Ideal no matter what the job whether it be getting you further off that beaten path or carting around those heavy loads this Hilux boasts plenty of advantages!
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My Screencast of ROM:.................................................. .........................................Alexdumitru video (thanks!)
Download: Support me by using these links, http://adfoc.us/470751 (androidfilehost) or http://adfoc.us/470756318563 (googlecode)
Dont want to support me http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/...AOKP_1.3.1.zip OR http://rebel-rom.googlecode.com/file...AOKP_1.3.1.zip
Download via "OTA updater" in settings, if on a previous build.
Gapps no longer included.
Download GAPP'S: http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/...429-signed.zip , http://rebel-rom.googlecode.com/file...429-signed.zip or http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-ics-20120429-signed.zip
- Based on AOKP ICS 4.0.4 -built from source, with some tweaks done by me - aokp.co
- FLUXI KERNEL ICS XX.02Beta1 - http://goo.gl/dBu3p
- APEX launcher - Launcher settings integrated into settings - http://goo.gl/QKGdJ
- OTA updater (thanks to Update me app) - Integrated into settings - http://goo.gl/MjF7O
- Multi-language fluxi xxTweaker app - Integrated into settings - http://goo.gl/dBu3p
- Solid Explorer file manager included - http://goo.gl/Bp93X
- Apollo Music player - http://goo.gl/gCWjf
- Optimus 4x Style lockscreen - http://goo.gl/CvnzV
- Build.prop tweaks
Lots to come!
- All bugs from 1.3 should be fixed
- Updated Apex Launcher to latest beta (1.2.2Beta1)
- Updated xxTweaker to latest beta (0.3.9_beta3)
- AOKP build 38 aokp (http://goo.gl/puJS2)
- pHrail's rebel rom boot animation
- all apks PNG optimized
- Optimus 4x lockscreen no longer included (not compatible ATM)
- Latest Fluxi kernel and xxTweaker
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- Fixed kernel flashing problem
- USB connection mode option re-added (go to settings->storage->click menu button)
- DSPmanager replaced MusicFX
- Some more build.prop tweaks
- Google apps removed (flash GAPPS ICS separately)
1.1 (5/29/12):
- Optimus 4x lockscreen option cooked in
- Apollo music player
- xxTweaker updated to v.36
- Keyboard from CM9
- Couple graphical fixes in settings app (Apex setting icon changed, and "OTA update" renamed to "OTA Updater"
1.0.1 (5/28/12):
- Removed "Device Tweaker" (tweakGS2.apk) from settings and rom, because it really isnt needed when you have xxTweaker.
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Portable Encryption of OS Partitions
TrueCrypt does not allow to encrypt the OS Partition because there is no 32KB space available in the beginning of the drive.
My question;
If I use Portable TrueCrypt,
Can I encrypt all partitions on the drive or all of the drive which has OS Partitions using this Portable TrueCrypt and when I am going to use the drive(s) again, I will completely decrypt the drive(s) / partitions from this Portable TrueCrypt.
(I am going to put my computer in a storage place. The thing is the place is not safe. So, I will not use the encrypted HDD which have my OSs in it. I just want to keep it encrypted in the storage place. So, waiting for it to decrypt the whole drive when I am going to use it, is not a problem. This will be probably one time encryption before I put it in the storage and one time decryption process when I get it back).
Can TrueCrypt Portable (or Traveller Disk) boot a computer and encrypt and decrypt the whole drives without needing an OS?
I guess the question here is that can this Portable TrueCrypt boot the computer and decrypt the whole drive? And is it safe to encrypt OS Partitions or the drive with the OS Partitions with Portable TrueCrypt?
Do you have any ideas about this?
If it is possible, how much do you think it will take to encrypt 8 TB? (I am thinking to encrypt my external drives with Portable TrueCrypt too).
Do you have any idea for this one time encryption and decryption of Internal and External Harddisks?
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|01 Aug 2012
Forget it - you are talking days to encrypt that amount of data. If you have a power failure during that time..........
If you absolutely must, use System Encryption (page 33 in attachment) - its complicated and has risks, so if you aren't sure, I would advise against this.
A less riskier method of securing your computer is to remove the HDD, and store that elsewhere, or simply limit the ability of someone to boot into your system using this:
SysKey - Set Startup Password to Lock or Unlock Windows
|My System Specs
|01 Aug 2012
I remember there was a software for Windows, Mac and Linux which was only setting a password for the drive. You would install it on every operating system on the computer to reach your data, but I do not remember that software and I couldn't find it on search engines.
I can't do system encryption because TrueCrypt is asking 32KB empty space at the beginning of the drive and informing me that I don't have it. I have a GPT Disk with a 200 MB GPT Protective Partition at the beginning.
All I want to do is set a password for the drives or a software that can boot from USB or CD to lock/unlock the drives/partitions.
I have 2 internal disks (1 for operating systems and 1 for data) and 4 external drives (not flash, big drives) that I want to protect if they are found.
I don't even want to deal with encrypting, I am just interested in locking the drives; but only option I found on the internet was encryption and only one with a little bit of explanations is TrueCrypt.
Thank you for the attachment and locking Windows suggestion.
I am still thinking what I am going to do. I need to make it in a way that the data in the drives won't be able to read by let's say a Live USB or CD or on another machine. I don't care if they format it as long as they can't read the data.
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|01 Aug 2012
In that case, why not just create a Macrium image of the drives on an external USB drive for storage elsewhere, then wipe the internal drives prior to putting the PC into storage.
Disk - Clean and Clean All with Diskpart Command
Imaging with free Macrium
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|01 Aug 2012
I can't store it anywhere else. I won't have any place to put them (I won't even have a place to put myself, forget about putting those drives).
I have only one place to leave my computer and its accessories (which is most of my possessions except the musical equipment). So, there is no other place. They will be in a luggage somewhere (I am only taking the flash drives with me). So, I need a way of some encryption or locking the drives.
|My System Specs
|01 Aug 2012
In that case, use the Startup Password, and also see if your BIOS has a password option.
|My System Specs
|01 Aug 2012
I will use that startup password option.
Unfortunately, my BIOS does not have HDD Password option (It has a password for boot though [a setup password that can be setup to ask at every restart to use the machine]; so they won't be able to use my machine, but they will be able to use another machine to read the data in the internal drives).
I was just thinking of that. I could put my drives in another computer and lock them, but then I would need the same computer or the same model computer when I take back my items which will be when I don't know. I could use an older computer to put with the drives so that I can use that computer's drive lock option maybe.
For the external drives, I don't know what am I going to do yet. Actually, for the internal drives too. Luckily, I still have some time before putting my stuff there. So, I hope I can think of some thing to do.
It is a little complicated issue since I have to put all of my stuff in one luggage. If I use a USB or CD for recovery; I would have to keep at least 1 in the luggage, 1 with me. If it can be copied, on the Internet, or in the encrypted flash drive.
Thank you very much for your replies. Even though, I haven't decided what I am going to do yet, every reply is giving me another thought of pros and cons of taking an action.
|My System Specs
|01 Aug 2012
One last suggestion which will definately work:
1. Create a Macrium Image on an external drive as suggested.
2. Use 7ZIP to zip this image with minimal compression (storage)....but....choose the password option
3. Wipe the internal disks using DISKPART prior to storage.
So, all that is left are several .ZIP files on the external which cannot be accessed without the password - quite safe.
|My System Specs
|01 Aug 2012
Thanks. That sure would solve the problem with the internal drives.
How about locking the external drives (At least some). That shouldn't be hard I suppose. Some password software maybe. Or creating a folder which is encrypted with a password. I can put everything I want in that folder and protect it with a password?
Am I going right about the external drives? Do you have any ideas?
|My System Specs
|01 Aug 2012
For the externals, use the same procedure - place everything into .ZIP with a password.
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In the early to mid '90s, I'd head-bang and throw my body around to pop punk stylists like NOFX, Goldfinger, or Rancid. I loved Dookie, and played the crap out of it. What did I love so much about this music? Yeah, it was formulaic, but it seemed to leap out of the formula every now and then (I have fond memories of laughing at NOFX's goof-off songs, and re-appreciating the '80s through MXPX's cover of "Take On Me"). That and I wasn't all that demanding of a listener. Gimme a hook, some attitude, and plenty of volume, and that'll do. Now, I just can't seem to get into the spirit of the high-energy genre fodder Voices in the Wire churn out. It's almost soul-deadeningly unoriginal and possibly just unnecessary. All of the aforementioned bands contained infinitely more spontaneity and charm than this band, though they essentially perform the same service.
Hardcore (and that's not some tattoo on your t-shirt, I'm talking about the actual music) can be innovative. Just look at Jawbox, At The Drive-In, Sunny Day Real Estate, The Blood Brothers, or PG 99. Helmet, The Cherubs, Scratch Acid, Husker Du... There are just too many good examples to mention. E-mail me and I'll give you more comprehensive list if you want. I'm sure these scene embedded Jersey boys have something of an audience in their hometown. There's more than enough folks looking for pat music that fits neatly into their narrow, fashion accessible, parameters. But there's just too many bands doing the formulaic pop punk thing to even remotely recommend one stray, if competent, example.
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The Yankee Story, Colfax County, New Mexico
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A.D.Ensign, promoter, nearby Guest Ranch
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Mr Keebles
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Robert Lawrence
Leason, first baseman, town baseball team
BertLoyd, 1st mine superintendent
DonacianoMartinez, WWI volunteer
Matias Martinez
Dimas Medina
Merrow, catcher, town baseball team
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Jesse G Northcutt
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Trust says 700 prisoners addicted to drugs
More than 700 prisoners in Northern Ireland are addicted to drugs, according to the director of health care for inmates.
Desmond Bannon of the South Eastern Trust warned that prisons cannot cope with demand.
More than 5,000 prisoners use health services every year.
Mr Bannon said 1,000 had personality disorders. He also estimated around 160 inmates will have tried to take their own lives by the end of the year.
He warned that the drugs prisoners were being prescribed were for their sedative and tranquilising effects and not for physical ailments.
Lyn Edwards' son Aaron Hogg took his own life while on remand at Maghaberry Prison in May.
She said she believed the 21-year-old, who had a personality disorder, was let down by the system.
"He was very impulsive and didn't really relate to anyone he didn't know. I think he felt very isolated and alone in prison," she added.
"He was very withdrawn and I could see him going slowly downhill.
"He was on strong psychosis medication. He was on temazepam, but I think they were stopped and I know he had bother sleeping.
"I don't think he was ever seen by a psychiatrist."
Ms Edwards said Aaron should have been moved to a hospital or special facility were his medication could have been monitored.
"They definitely failed my son and I'm sure they are failing other people," she added.
Anne-Marie McClure works with Opportunity Youth, a group which helps inmates suffering from addiction.
She said 90% of the people who used the service were on prescribed medication, and that more resources were required to meet the needs of "this highly vulnerable group".
"Many of them are on the drugs before they come to prison," Ms McClure added.
"On committal we see almost every prisoner coming in and we highlight to them the consequences of drug use within prison.
"We highlight issues around tolerance, the risk of using drugs in prison and of course the risk of using drugs on release."


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