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A racist social media post on Instagram sparked a wildfire of controversy at Drexel University on the first day of Black History Month this year. One senior soccer athlete, Jessica Sarkisian, posted a picture of herself and a fellow African-American student with a violently offensive caption.
The comments made by Sarkisian sailed far past a petty slip-up and crashed straight into a malicious, thought-out blow to the African-American population. After the post made its way around the web, Drexel Athletic Director Eric Zillmer offered an apology and a promise to address the matter with the student.
This post seemed to be purposeful and was even orchestrated by a fellow American. It would be atrocious to believe that it was done of ignorance and should be overlooked. Awful behavior such as this would never be tolerated in the professional world today. This young athlete is a face for the entire university, therefore, she should face repercussions for such actions. An argument for ignorance is highly invalid with such a potently racist comment. The experiences of high school and college are eye opening for everyone, and one would be hard pressed not to learn that racism is horrible and will never be tolerated in such a cultured environment.
Promises of addressing an issue as dire as this is a comforting statement, but falls short of fair judgment. In a professional setting, this would have led to immediate termination of status. I believe this to be the only just decision in this instance. A scholarship-holding athlete, who is admired as an upstanding student, cannot be allowed to trample all over the decency of a university without consequences being anything less than cutting all scholarships given to that student by the university. It has been instilled into me throughout my personal college career that one must be wary of social media and what you broadcast on it. Anyone can see it and be offended to the point of giving grievance to university heads.
This egregious attempt at humor is a sad and sick display of disrespect and disregard to common decency, brought about by a foolish and rude college athlete. Punishment must be swift and just, so that the event will not soil the university name any more than has already been done.
This delay only weakens the reputation of those with the power to do the right thing, in the correct manner. When it really comes down to it, we all know what she said was wrong and something needs to happen. With many African-American based organizations across the campus and the world, if college athletes like Sarkisian do not answer for what they say, the University will have far bigger problems than scandalous social media posts. Riots could potentially form and a lawsuit might ensue. Yet, if the correct decision is made on this, all could turn out less complicated.
We all agree that just because students are athletes, it doesn't mean that they should be exempt from rules of the common people. Being "young and dumb" is thrown out of the window as an excuse when the event involves something as serious as a racist comment. Athletes across America have been persecuted for their unorthodox behavior throughout the years. College athletes are aspiring professional athletes and should be treated with the same scrutiny. This idea will promote respectful behavior and prudence in athletes. We as human beings share this world and it is a beautiful fact that many cultures exist in our midst. Therefore, we should all strive to uphold the equal treatment of these cultures so as to prevent any other heinous crimes such as this.


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Anyone doubt Sandra now? Seriously. I'm so proud of her.
As I imagined this is going to be the Russell and rest of the cast reunion show. Oh well, at least I'm enjoying his sweet loss.
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This chapter compares to Isaiah 13.
Isaiah's "burden" in this chapter (verse 1) is a burden of a message. It is the prophecy that he carries to the people. It is the message he delivers to the people from the Lord. This burden-message is notice that judgment has been declared, and the consequences are in process of unfolding. It is like the judge reading out the sentence at the end of a trial, excepting that the Lord is always inviting us to repentance – that's why He sends the messenger, the prophet, instead of just carrying out the sentence right away. He always – because He has promised to do so – He always sends a prophet to warn us before judgment comes.
This is Isaiah being doing his prophet-ness, giving the final warning to the people.
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It reminds me of the second to the last paragraph of the Family Proclamation, in which the Prophet and Apostles declare:
We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.
That is a "burden".
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Verse 2 is powerful. A "banner" was a standard or symbol of the King. The "high mountain" is the Temple. So we have the standard (symbols and tokens and laws) being lifted in the Temple, raised up and acknowledged. Then a voice that exalts unto them and shakes their hand, so "that they may go into the gates of the nobles".
This is a gathering of His people, a gathering of His house.
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But those who are not His covenant people will be warned, are being warned now. The consequences, calamities, and disasters promised for the latter-days are happening now. It has already started. "Howl ye, for the day of the Lord is at hand" (verse 6).
The Lord's people need not be afraid.
But those who are not His covenant people shall "be faint, every man's heart shall melt" (verse 7). "And they shall be afraid; pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames" (verse 8).
These flames are the lightning-fires of Elijah.
This is the same lightning-fire that will "destroy the sinners therefore out of " the earth (verse 9).
This is the same lightning-fire that will happen when the worlds are moved back to their places (verse 13).
Isaiah then goes on to describe not only the destruction and scattering that will come when Assyria takes over, but also the horrific scene of Babylon taking over (verse 16-19).
Yet to those who repent, He will be merciful (verse 22).
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|August 4, 2010, 01:43 PM
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Hit, but not out of the firefight-What Happens
I just wanted to start a thread regarding this subject because I think it would be interesting. The human body is an amazing machine able to take a lot of punishment especially with adrenaline surging. I was wondering if any former LEO/civilian SD shooters wanted to share a story. I would like to hear about any instances of you maybe getting hit but continuing to fight the BG. Or a story about a BG who was hit but not out of the fight, and what you did. Thank you for those who do, and those who don't I perfectly understand why. This thread is for me to understand the right mindset to survive even after injury.
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Because we watch movies all the time many of us have come to believe that if you are shot you fall and die in an instant. The truth is that you can be shot in the heart and still go for about a minute. Its not until your brain shuts off that you are truely out of the fight. (though pain may make you want to stop) I personally have never been shot but one of my coworkers has been shot on two different occasions. Both times he didn't know he had been shot until someone showed him the wound. Both times he finished the fight. One badguy lived the other died. The one that died had been shot 4 times and was still fighting until he finally took one last bullet to the back of the head.
This is kind of off topic, but the second time he was shot it was by another cop which is why he didn't know he had been hit because he knew the badguy had only shot once and it hit the other cop. Its also why the badguy had only been hit 4 times instead of 7. One other cop took a bullet from friendly fire as well.
The first time he had been shot both he and the badguy were shot and both survived. He says the badguy didn't even act hurt even though he had a 45 slug in his guts.
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Thank you that was an excellent post and look forward to more like it. That is what I figured. It looks like people can take a lot more punishment from firearms than most believe. I thought this was the case ever since I read Dr. Andersons book about the 1986 FBI Miami firefight. People seem to believe your chest explodes like in movies when you get shot (the force going the opposite direction too ). I doubt much of anything would happen if you got solid chest hits on someone, maybe their shirt would move. Then after there would be a lot of bleeding, but I seriously doubt it does anything like exploding.
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I have never been shot/ shot someone. And i'm a physics major.. but one of my passions is biology and I am well aware of what it takes to kill a person.
I used to shadow a neuro surgeon and went under the knife myself for an extremely extensive surgery. The human body is the biological abrams tank
I'd say that the key to defending one's self is taking cover and getting away from the threat.. not stopping it. If I am ever assaulted or deem it necessary to use lethal force I will shoot and run as fast as I can to cover to keep shooting or continue retreat. That's assuming I am not protecting anyone else from life threatening situation.
Same with my house. Since I don't live with family or have a family, I'd just grab a gun and sneak out my window if there was someone in my house... while calling the police on the outside.
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|August 4, 2010, 02:58 PM
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Agree 100% Dan with going for cover as fast as your body will allow. I would be returning fire/ doing whats necessary in the situation. I would also try and retreat and call police if possible, 6 people clearing a house is better than 1.(In the sneaking out your window situation you mentioned)
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A friend of our family in the navy has been shot in the shoulder and not noticed. A close friend of his was hit and killed. He was trying to get him out of the line of fire and ot shot in the process. but didn't notice till they were "safe".
"quote: The human body is like an abram tank" its true this quote. The body has adapted and grow to be a functioning piece of pure awesomeness.
We have in our body called a thing called the sympathetic nervous system which prepares the body for either a flight or fight response. which kicks in as we are being attacked or startled. It mainly kicks in when your in a situation of "high alert". The adrenile start flowing and it either gives you the "extra" energy to either run or fight. By doing this it takes the blood from "non" vital areas. By ths i don't mean like arms or legs. It all depends on what the situation is.
Anyway enough of that crap. ha, the human body is amazing.
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I agree about the abrahms tank as well. Some people think that BG's are just going to drop, I'm expecting them to keep going. It seems in the heat of battle people don't feel shots because of the rush. I mean the adrenaline must be insane when bullets are flying. The pain would come probably after your friend got out. I am sorry his friend got killed, I respect him greatly.
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Thats is psychological I think. Like "O Im shot I dont want to die if I fall I will stop getting shot". Some people don't though, thats the mental state I try to believe in. If I get hit and am not unable to move I will continue fighting.
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There is a good video(well not so good) of a shooting in a train station in Mexico, a bad guy was shooting at a cop, and then at some other civilians that tried to help...he shot the cop numerous times at close range, and the cop still got up and ran away at fist like nothing happened...only to fall dead a few yards away...and the guy who tried to help, was shot I dont know how may times at close rangs and kept fighting for a while...one shot can do the job, or many can have little effect....pretty scary if you think about it....
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one of the infantry guys that were supporting us in iraq took an ak round thru the left thigh.
he had just thought it was a piece of brass or something that hit him, as it didn't hurt.
he continued on the mission for almost 40 mins till somebody else noticed he was bleeding.
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Crazy. I think I have seen some of that video before on TV or something. The guy just keeps coming at him, I wonder how many times he was hit. I saw what you mean about the cop too. Upon original shots he just sprints away, then is dead, almost like a deer. It is kind of creepy, I think when your adrenaline is surging saying "Your going to die" you don't feel much. Afterwards yea, probably.
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TylerD has it right; you keep fighting as long as you can. I attended schools offerred by the US Custom's Service, Surviving Armed Confrontations, and that was their advice. There is only one shot that is an immediate stop. One placed above the upper lip & below the nose; Cerebral Cortex is gone & the BG becomes a rag doll. Otherwise, keep shooting until the reason to use deadly force is gone.
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Cool, that they actually taught you if shot not to stop. I hope a lot of training places do that. Seems like you know biology too TJH thats what I think of as a head shot. Right in the center face like you said the nose joins the upper lip with in a 3-4inch circle to bottom of eybrows about, I would guess. Thats what you want to hit for the immediate stop, otherwise people can still twitch. Can't always get that shot but it is the best spot. People othere than a head shot can keep going, sometimes even with. The human body really is like a tank.
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My pop worked vice and did a lot of night raids which he didn't like. This was back in the late 60s and early 70s. After coming home after a raid, maybe 2:00 am, he was upset by a phone call that came about an hour later and he had to leave again. It seems that one of his team had been shot in the raid, didn't know it until he got home and was undressing and his wife insisted he go to the hospital. It was the hospital that had called my father.
On the opposite extreme are those that die from non-lethal wounds as a result of going into shock.
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|August 6, 2010, 03:33 PM
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Wow. Thats a pretty wild story. That just makes me think even more that the body can take more than you even know. Like that LEO he didnt realize he was shot until his wife (visually) pointed it out to him. Then he started to react. True people can die from shock, your blood pressure goes to low (40%+ blood loss and your pretty much done for), etc. I think by these post though Im keeping my mind set in a SD situation if Im not incapacitated, Im continuing the fight. Thanks for the posts guys.
|August 6, 2010, 04:06 PM
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Never been shot but have been beaten badly on at least two occasions while working as an LEO. Once I was beaten to the ground repeatedly and kept getting up and fighting back despite numerous strikes to my head, neck, shoulders, back and arms with my own night stick. I was able to survive, because I was able to get a gun out of my car (I was off duty and had stopped at a bar for one beer so left the revolver in the car) and the bad guys ceased the attack at that point. I was able to get the gun only because I fought back, despite fairly serious head injuries - contusions, cuts, concussion, possible slight nerve/brain damage, other injuries to muscles such as contusions - I kept getting up and fighting each time they beat me down. The they were 4 or 5 attackers. I am sure of 4, maybe there was another.
Another time I was beaten, I was able to fight off at least 5 attackers who tried to take away my gun to kill me. I retained it, freed myself from their grasp and fired a shot over the head of the gang leader that scared them, and about 15 or 20 others who were coming to help them, off. That probably will prove to be the one and only warning shot to be fired by me for the duration of my lifetime. Next time I am in a similar situation, it will not be a warning. The result, for me, of them trying to take a prisoner away from me was that:
I was diagnossed with a fractured sternum/zyphoid process, blood clots in my lungs and a lot of bruises. Diagnosis later changed to bruised sternum but I had another doc later tell me it had been fractured (it is cartilidge but can fracture as was the zyphoid process) and said the 23 bed hospital I was in did not know how to treat it and wanted me to be at ease with their diagnosis. (Bunch of quacks!) I did not know about the injuries until I woke up the next day with an awful lot of pain in my chest and as soon as I got out of bed I started to cough up blood and clots. Got xrayed later that second day.
The result for the bad guys was: the bad guys all fled to Mexico including my handcuffed prisoner. Cops found him later with blue/black hands due to lack of circulation, seems the cuff closed tight during the struggle. Mexican authorities arrested him and said he likely would go to jail for a few years.
That was about 28 years ago or so - what a change of attitude in the minds of Mexican & US authorities from then until now. We actually used to cooperate with one another. I got my cuffs back after making an official visit to the Chief of Homicide of the Judicial Baja California Norte.
Interesting visit - he had a hexagonal tank on his desk with 4 critters in it. They were all facing off across the center of the tank from the edges of the tank. As I recall, one was a sidewinder, another a big scorpion, another a tarantula and another a horned lizard. None were moving at all except for the rattler which moved its tongue a tiny bit now and then. I figured they were there for prisoner incentive during interrogations but the chief said he jsut wanted to see which made the first move and which would be the last one left alive. Sort of something that would fit in a Quentin Tarantino movie but I digress.
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|August 6, 2010, 04:23 PM
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Wow. Sorry you had to deal with all that because of those scumbags Glenn. Sounds like you fought with all you had. But, you were definitley in a situation both times were your life was threatened. After I went through that I wounded fire another warning shot either. Mexicans and U.S. authorities, o man don't even get me going on that. It is rediculous what is going on now. Thanks for sharing that, hope you never have to deal with that again.
|August 6, 2010, 04:25 PM
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Wow, Mr. Bartley!
What a harrowing pair of incidents. Talk about "True Grit", man-oh-man. Glad to see you survived and the beatings didn't scramble your eggs too badly. Admirable restraint in that second incident not to have ended a few of those animals right on the spot. The cowards clearly had murderous intent and would have earned all they got.
I love that last bit about the Chief in Mexico. Yes! A Tarentino movie!
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|August 6, 2010, 04:33 PM
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Thats true you did show a lot of restraint. Im not sure what I would have done either though. Those were some serious situations. You prevailed. That is pretty good about the chief in Mexico too. I got a kick out of that.
|August 6, 2010, 06:27 PM
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I do not know about true grit, I was scared just about to the point of the pucker factor failing me and my pants getting dirty from another type of grit. No matter how scared, I knew fighting was better than giving up each time. Maybe it was because of my training and practice, and that kicked in before I even realized I was scared. So, I reverted to my training and to my will to fight and not give up and that helped even though I was scared. Is that grit? I do not think so, I think it is just doing what ou can to make sure you get home to see the wife and kids again. Anyway, chances are, that is not what they meant when John Wayne played the part of Rooster Cogburn in the movie True Grit.
In fact, I never want to find myself in any situations like those again, but they happen now and again, as do others that could become as bad but are more often cooled down before they get that bad. If one does get that bad again though, I hope I never give up in a situation like that. Back then, I also had hoped I would never again face another situation like that but I certainly have faced some more of them over the years. I try to do the right thing each time and de-escalate a situation and if it gets worse I try to deal with as I know I should.
I just wish things like that would stop happening involving me but as recently as a few months ago I had to intervene on behalf of a man, woman and their 9 or 10 year old daughter when they were accosted by a jerk. I hosed him with pepper spray and he finally got the idea it was better to leave than hang around. I let him leave, had the husband call the police and got him arrested by them; I was out in Phoenix at the time on an assignment for work.
I have a black cloud that follows me around. Although it has made for an interesting life, it would be okay by me if I got a little more sunshine now that I am older. I am getting on in years, I suppose much as was Rooster Cogburn. Whether or not I have grit, I can tell you this, that kind of thing is 'No Country For Old Men' and I am getting there in years (I'll be retiring this year or next).
One other thing, about me and restraint. I think that it was more uncertainty than restraint that I showed in taking the warning shot. I was very young, pretty new as a border patrol agent, and the guy was unarmed but had already hurt me and was urging others to "kill him" - the him being me. I saw the other coming, he started to approach me too, from a fairly close distance, I was scaredfor my life very literally, and I fired a round that seemd to actually part his hair as it whoosed up as the bullet or muzzle blast passed over his head. It would have been a lot more intelligent of me had I shot him, but a lot harder to live with if I had done so. As it was it turned out okay and I was not tried before a jury of what would have been his peers. Still though, I could have been killed had he charged me at that point and gotten hold of my revolver. Restraint - nope; just not sure of what to do because he was unarmed but still posed a deadly threat to me. I know better now how to assess and act in such a situation.
Thanks for the compliment, it is appreciated.
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|August 6, 2010, 06:53 PM
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I say you showed some pretty big guts. Obviously your survival instincts kicked in but you still did very well. At least thats my opinion.
|August 6, 2010, 09:47 PM
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Trooper stopped a car about a mile from here. Approacing the car his "spidey sense" tingled and he reached for his weapon. Firefight ensued. he dove for cover and shot the back window out of a Camero, which sped off. He jumped back into hisd cruiser and it stalled; radiator shot out. Jumped into a passing turnpike truck, driver of which saw the fight and crossed the median, u-turn. Trooper discovered his thigh was "sticky". Took one round through and through; continued pursuit until Camero crashed and another juristicton took over.
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|August 7, 2010, 12:53 PM
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Thats awesome that the pickup guy turned to help him out. There was a fight in Boston between a LEO and Meth criminal or PCP. A LEO was fighting a Methed out guy(serious wrestling the guys going for his gun, its on youtube.) NO ONE WOULD HELP HIM. If I ever saw a LEO in any serious trouble, I would rush to help them. Another story of not feeling it (the shot/s) until after the intial exchange. Im going to convince myself if Im not incapacitated immediatley, I probably won't die at least not on the spot. I will keep fighting for survival. I think this is a good mindset to have, KEEP your body going.
|August 21, 2010, 11:42 AM
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While being motivated and determined to keep fighting regardless of being shot there's a lot to the effects of wounds that we're still learning about. Even Mas Ayoob says in his book "The Gun Digest Book of Combat Handgunnery" that many people who were stopped by one shot which didn't strike the CNS "were hard fighters, impervious to fear, and it is most unlikely that a psychological dread of being shot caused them to faint". He goes on to explain different theories as to why even those people were stopped.
I state this not to show people not to be determined and confident to keep going and to win a fight but rather to show that it's much more complicated than many think and still a lot that we don't know about the subject.
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I've been making some observations lately in WoW regarding healing and the Dungeon Finder. I've been thinking about writing about it for a few days, but Spinks and Syp have both beat me to it.
Spinks article is about "You can't heal stupid," which is absolutely correct. Syp writes about the unwritten rules that healers have in "The Secret Life of Healers."
Both of them allude to or outright point out that most healers in the game (I play a Resto Shaman as one of my dual mains) have a set of rules for healing people, particularly people in Random Heroic Groups. We probably all had rules that we had in our minds from doing PUGs, but not many people did as many dungeons doing PUGs as we do now with the Dungeon Finder. This has amplified our issues as healers and brought them to the forefront of our thinking. Before this I never really thought that much about them but over the course of the last few weeks I have had time to consider this quite a lot.
For the benefit of all the ADHD tanks, fire-and-forget ranged DPS, and don't-quite-know-they-aren't-the-tank melee DPS folks out there, here are some things to consider should you be lucky enough to be in a Heroic I am healing. I am willing to bet that there are even some other healers who will agree with these, so think of them as rules to live by.
1. Tanks – I am a mana-using class, please keep this in mind. – I know you have to hurry up and finish the dungeon before your parking meter expires, but going fast has the law of diminishing returns. Seriously, WTF is the rush? You are a tank, and can get a dungeon instantly and if you really are such hot shit you probably don't need the emblems any more. Slow down just a little and let me drink 2 or 3 times during the run. Stressing me out means I'm more likely to make mistakes, and me making a big mistake could mean a wipe, which is the ultimate slow down. I spend my entire time in there looking at your health bar, glance at mine once in a while. Einstein.
2. It's more mana-efficient to rez Hunters and Rogues than it is to heal them. – Seriously, why are you taking damage? If there isn't some sort of AE that the MOB is doing and you are taking damage, you are risking me having to decide between keeping me and the tank up, or finishing the fight with 4 players. Given that all but 2 or 3 of the Heroics can be 4-manned anyway, I'm not going to lose any sleep if you drop. So knock it the hell off.
3. You are responsible for controlling your threat. Don't automatically blame the tank. – We are ALL responsible for controlling our own threat. If you don't have a threat meter, you may want to get one. The one I have beeps if I get close to #1 on the charts. This lets me know that I have to do more than memorize a button sequence and let 'er rip. I know DPS is a high-workload role, but that doesn't mean it should be a low-brainshare one. Pay attention to what you are doing, so I don't end up blowing my entire mana pool healing everyone who gets smote on the mob's way back and forth between you and the tank. If you do draw aggro, die gracefully without blaming anyone else because, well, it's your own damn fault.
4. Don't be a douchebag. – If you are going to tell everyone in the group how to play their class, berate the tank and the healer for doing things the way they are doing them, and generally act like an antisocial ass, please know that I am not going to heal you. At all. Now before you all hate on me, know that I have a high threshold for asshattery, but once you reach it there is pretty much no way back. Example: Last night I am running a Heroic with Br3ntbr0 from ITG! The Ret Pally (big surprise here) starts yapping about Hurry up! And GO FASTER! We tell him to chill, but he starts peppering in obscenities and jumping around like a fool while still telling us to hurry. I'm in Vent with Brent and as we approach the last boss I tell him I've had enough and the Pally is gonna die. Note: I do tend to go kinda passive-aggressive in situations like this, so of course that is what I did. Brent made sure he allowed the Pally to pull aggro, and I let him die. We finished the boss in record time anyway, looted, insulted him, watched his profanity-laced tirade, and left him dead in the instance. Lesson: If you can't be civil, expect that to have consequences.
5. A tank is not a tank. – To everyone who isn't a tank, just something for you to know: A Prot Pally is not the same as a Prot Warrior, is not the same as a LOLBear, is not the same as a DK tank. So you should know how each of them are different in the realm of aggro management, and make adjustments accordingly. I'm always going to try to keep everyone vertical (with some exceptions noted above) but if you insist on pulling aggro from the tank during the initial pull over and over again, then I have to agree with Spinks and just realize that "you can't heal stupid." Hopefully your deaths are a lesson to you. If not, then you apparently can't teach stupid either.
6. Don't stand in the fire/poo gas/poison/void zone.
So to boil it down;
- Let me have some mana, saving 1 or 2 minutes isn't buying you that much.
- Know your role.
- Don't be a douche.
- Use your head for something besides a hat rack.
- Don't stand in the effing fire.
One other thing you should know. Here is my healing priority list:
- ME. I can't heal anyone else if I am dead. Simple concept.
- The tank. Should really be 1b. A fight without a tank is a wipe 9 out of 10 times.
- Anyone else who isn't a Rogue or Hunter, particularly if they can backup heal.
- Rogues and Hunters.
I guess I'll never understand why people can't make an effort to at least be civil, try, and to try to have some fun in these groups. I'm not quite sure why my initial reaction to people behaving in what I perceive to be an unacceptable manner produces a passive aggressive response in me but, well, it does. I suspect that I'm not alone in this.
If you are a tank, please just pause every once in a while and see if your healer is OK. We're keeping you (pretty close to) front of mind, showing a little mind-share to your healer should be one of your priorities.
And no matter who you are. If you have something to share that you think would help someone in the group, try doing it without name calling or berating anyone. That doesn't help. And it will probably get you killed.


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A superb solo goal from summer signing Jamie Paterson saw Nottingham Forest fight back for a 2-2 draw against Royal Antwerp at the City Ground.
Despite taking the lead early on, Forest fell behind to the team managed by former Reds coach Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink.
Matt Derbyshire added to his goal against Chesterfield in the week with another from the penalty spot in the seventh minute before substitutes Jordan Faucher and Roy Bakkenes struck in the second half to put the Belgian side ahead.
But Paterson, a recent arrival from Walsall, ensured the game finished all square when he turned midway inside the Antwerp half before knocking the ball between defenders and keeping his cool to finish with nine minutes remaining.


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As part of our continuing series of Monkey Cage election reports, the following is a post-election report on the recent Indonesian presidential elections from Cornell University political scientist Tom Pepinsky.
On July 9, Indonesians went to the polls to elect their next president. The official results won't be known until early next week, as Indonesia's Electoral Commission works to count over 150 million votes from across this sprawling archipelago. Early results from "Quick Counts" have Joko Widodo and running-mate Jusuf Kalla with a 4 to 5 point lead over Prabowo Subianto and Hatta Rajasa. But both camps are claiming victory.
The two presidential contenders represent two starkly different options for Indonesia. Joko Widodo — universally known as "Jokowi" among Indonesians — is billed as a populist reformer, who hails from an ordinary middle-class background and rose to national prominence as the extraordinarily popular mayor of Solo, a regional city in central Java. His reputation is for low-key, honest, pragmatic leadership, and he promises to confront the corruption that plagues Indonesia and reform the country's institutions. Prabowo, by contrast, is the quintessential insider, the ex-son-in-law of deceased former dictator Suharto, a former general and amember of a prominent family. His message is one of decisive leadership that will address Indonesia's lackluster economic performance, while restoring a sense of order and greatness to Indonesia.
Prabowo's personal history makes him something of an unlikely candidate. He is widely known to have a short temper, and has been linked to both human rights violations during the Indonesian occupation of East Timor and to the disappearance of pro-democracy activists during his time in the military. Taking advantage of a poorly run campaign by Jokowi, however, Prabowo cobbled together a broad coalition of political parties and wealthy business backers to mount a quite competitive race.
By the eve of the election, Jokowi held only a slight lead. Public opinion surveys conducted by the well-regarded Saiful Mujani polling company during the first week of July showed 44.9 percent of likely voters choosing Prabowo-Hatta, 47.6 percent choosing Jokowi-JK, and 7.5 percent undecided.
The demographic breakdown of Mujani's results provides a window into the sources of popular support for each candidate.
Jokowi's supporters are on the whole more likely to be rural and less educated than Prabowo's supporters, and also were more likely to be employed in lower skill occupations (farmers, fishermen, workers) or to be women working at home. This probably reflects urban middle class frustrations with Indonesia's rampant corruption, and the belief that only Prabowo's decisive leadership can bring it under control. Muslims are roughly divided between Jokowi and Prabowo, with a slight edge to Prabowo, but non-Muslims massively favor Jokowi, by a roughly 4-to-1 margin.
In addition to conducting pre-election surveys, Mujani's firm and a number of others conduct "Quick Counts," and these are the key piece of quantitative evidence about the results of the July 9 election given that the official results have not been released. Unlike exit polls, Quick Counts use the actual results from entire polling stations. They rely on well-understood statistical principles to produce highly accurate estimates of the final vote share by combining a large number of polling stations that represent (in a statistical sense) the Indonesian voting population in its entirety. I plot the results from eight firms below alongside Mujani's most recent pre-election survey. (I also show the confidence intervals around that survey's estimates of the vote share going to each candidate to reflect our uncertainty.)
All eight Quick Count results above fall within the 95 percent confidence intervals of Mujani's pre-election survey. Each shows Jokowi with a substantial lead; six of the eight have his margin at greater than 4 percent. It is almost certain that if Indonesia's electoral commission faithfully reported the results of the July 9 election, Jokowi would win handily.
Once elections are over, vote buying is no longer an option. So given these numbers, how could Prabowo steal the election? Two political scientists at the Australian National University in Canberra, Edward Aspinall and Marcus Mietzner, have outlined one plausible scenario. The basic strategy is to combine deliberate misinformation from Quick Count results by "non-independent" firms with "manipulation of the formal counting and vote tabulation process" — that is, vote stealing. Four firms (not shown above) also released Quick Count results, but these showed narrow victories for Prabowo. Notably, as Aspinall and Mietzner point out, none of these firms have a track record of conducting accurate polling, and all have links to Prabowo. The Prabowo camp is accordingly using these four questionable Quick Count results to create sense that the electoral results are too close to call.
A great deal depends on the ability of thousands of officials from the electoral commission to resist strong pressure, both financial and otherwise, to shift the results in Prabowo's favor. These two weeks accordingly represent a critical period for Indonesian democracy. Both candidates claim to have received a popular mandate, but Prabowo — the presumptive loser — is almost certainly willing to press his case using non-democratic tactics. The weakness of Indonesia's rule of law is well known, but Indonesia has seen nothing approaching this level of pressure on election officials since democratization in 1999.
One facet of Indonesia's vote counting procedures may prove important in raising the costs of vote stealing. The Indonesian electoral commission has committed to placing scanned images of the official reports from every single polling station around the country online. Nearly all have been submitted already (see here for progress, and you can click here to see an example of one report from central Jakarta). Enterprising Indonesians have created Web sites that allow visitors to process these images into numerical data on vote totals — in effect, crowdsourcing election monitoring. There is even a Tumblr where observers can flag problematic reports. As of the morning of July 18, the results of these efforts have Jokowi and Jusuf Kalla with 52.8 percent of the vote, broadly in line with the Quick Count results.
Whether or not such crowdsourced public audits will affect the electoral commission's official outcome remains to be seen. What is clear even now, though, is that Indonesia's most competitive election in recent history is not yet over.


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PALM HARBOR -- Bart Bryant got his bad shots out of the way early and birdied his last two holes Thursday for a 6-under 65, giving him a one-shot lead among early starters who were lucky to beat the rain in the PODS Championship.
Bryant was thrilled to twice escape with pars through six holes, and he wasn't paying that much attention to his card until he realized he was 4 under. Then came birdies on two of the toughest holes at Innisbrook, including a 15-foot putt on the 18th, and he found himself atop the leaderboard.
"I felt like I got my bad stuff out of the way and I was still even par," Bryant said. "I think that gave me a little confidence."
Ernie Els, coming off a victory in the Honda Classic that ended an 0-for-47 drought on the PGA Tour, was part of the afternoon wave that did not finish the first round because of a 2-hour storm delay.
Els made two straight bogeys when he returned to the course, and finished his day with a birdie at No. 11 to return to even par.
Two-time U.S. Open champion Lee Janzen, who has not had full status on the PGA Tour since 2006, made good use of his sponsor's exemption with five birdies that left him one stroke behind with three holes remaining.
The first round was scheduled to resume at 7:30 a.m. Friday. It was the first time rain has halted play on the PGA Tour this year.
Rain earlier in the week took some of the bite out of the Copperhead Course at Innisbrook, regarded as one of the toughest tour tracks in Florida, and rarely has it played this easy.
Kenny Perry hobbled around on a hip that felt like it was shooting volts down his leg, but he managed seven birdies in a round of 66, tied with Jeff Maggert and Stewart Cink.
Cink was playing for the first time since losing to Tiger Woods at the Accenture Match Play Championship, and while he suffered the worst beating in the 10-year history of the final match (8 and 7), he figured this was a continuation of good play.
"I had a lot of confidence after Match Play," Cink said. "Even losing the last match, I was happy to be in the last match."
Carl Pettersson, who won at Innisbrook in 2005, and Jonathan Byrd were among those at 67. Jerry Kelly was 4 under through four holes when play was halted.
Perhaps it is not surprising that so many guys in their 40s Bryant, Maggert, Perry, Tom Pernice Jr. were atop the leaderboard. This is a course that requires more brain than brawn, and experience tends to come in handy.
Even the guys with power find themselves throttling back.
"You can't hit too many shots without putting thought into them," Byrd said.
The good news for Bryant is that he's hitting shots without feeling too much pain. It seems every time he recovers from one surgery, another body part starts hurting, which was the case last year.
Bryant said his right hip was in such bad shape that he took two months off during the summer. When he returned, his right elbow was acting up again, and he couldn't practice the last three months of the season.
"No practice, just playing," the 45-year-old said. "This year, I've been able to start hitting balls. My health has been good."
The results are slowly coming along. It was only three years ago that Bryant's career turned the corner with victories in the Memorial and the Tour Championship, the latter a six-shot victory over Woods.
Last week at the Honda Classic, he was among the leaders on Friday until taking a quadruple-bogey on the sixth hole that sent him back to the pack. Those big numbers can happen at PGA National, and Bryant wasn't too bothered.
"It showed my game is in the kind of shape that I can get up there at the top," he said.
Perry, meanwhile, started feeling a sting down his leg only two days ago, which doesn't affect his swing, only getting around. He is 47 and desperate to win, figuring that will get the attention of Ryder Cup captain Paul Azinger.
The Ryder Cup will be held at Valhalla in Perry's home state of Kentucky.
"I just haven't had that consistency for four rounds," Perry said. "I need a win badly."
No one needs to win more than Janzen, whose last victory was his second U.S. Open title at The Olympic Club in 1998, has not finished inside the top 125 on the money list the last three years.
He has been playing well enough at home that he felt overly confident going to Mexico two weeks ago. Then he missed the cut.
"The good news is I didn't leave there totally dejected," Janzen said.
Divots: Dudley Hart withdrew because of soreness in his neck. Kevin Na withdrew after a 76 because of food poisoning. ... Sean O'Hair, who has missed his last two cuts, was followed around by swing coach Steve Dahlby. O'Hair was one shot out of the lead until bogeys on his last two holes for a 69. ... Azinger four-putted the last hole for double bogey in a round of 79. He had not played since Phoenix.
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I grew up in Monrovia and as a kid I went to a drive-in in Duarte named Big Sky Drive-In. It was on Huntington Drive and was demolished to make way for a Fedco, which later became a Target.
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I remember going there as a kid with my parents…..
and seeing it as it was in transition being torn down…
it made me sad..
I remember it being the best of times, when my friends and I would stop at the little Hamburger joint across the street, grab a bite to eat, go to the Minature Gulf coures next door to it, then finishing off the day by going to the Big Sky Drive-In and catching one or two
Flicks.I surely miss those days, it seems like a long time ago.
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Here is an October 1960 ad from the Pasadena Independent:
The October 8, 1949, issue of Boxoffice Magazine noted that the Big Sky Drive-In had opened recently. It was designed by architect J. Arthur Drielsma. The May 7 issue of the same magazine had said that theater was being built by, and would be operated by, a partnership called Big Sky Corporation.
A brief item in the December 21, 1951, issue of Boxoffice said that Lou Berman had disposed of his interests in the Big Sky Drive-In to Jack Drumm and a group of associates.
Though the Edwards Theatre Circuit did once operate several drive-ins in the San Gabriel Valley (usually in partnership with Pacific Drive-Ins), I don't recall the Big Sky being among them. My memory of the listings so long ago is pretty dim, though. I do know that the Big Sky was listed in the Times with the Pacific Drive-Ins by 1971.
Here is a 1980 aerial photo:
Gives a good view of what the drive-in looked like at one time. I fail to see the problem with that.
Whats wrong with the aerials they a pictures of the theatres or drive-ins.
I'd rather have an aerial vs no photo at all.
Just login to your account and subscribe to this theater


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Tag Archives: hockey
9 Biggest Upsets in Olympic Hockey History
There are a number of thrilling events at the Winter Olympics. However, with all due respect to downhill skiing, snowboard cross, and short track speed skating, it's pretty clear that the most exciting event of all is ice hockey. So what is it about hockey? Well it's not just the fast pace, the skill, the rivalries, […]
2014 Sochi Olympics: Jaromir Jagr Gets a Leg Rub (GIF)
The men's Olympic hockey schedule can be a grueling one for players, especially those as old as Jaromir Jagr. The Czech forward turns 42 tomorrow, and as an early birthday gift he received what looked like a very enjoyable leg rub from a trainer on the bench during his team's 4-2 win over Latvia earlier […]
2014 Sochi Olympics: Alex Ovechkin Scores 77 Seconds into Russia's Opener vs. Slovenia (GIF)
It looked like Russia would run away with this one after Alex Ovechkin opened the scoring with a wicked wrister just 77 seconds into their opening contest against Slovenia at the 2014 Sochi Games. And that goal was quickly followed by one from Evgeni Malkin less than three minutes later, giving Russia an early 2-0 […]
Check Out This Amazing Shootout Goal From the AHL Skills Competition (Video)
The AHL All-Star Game has an interesting format this year, as the NHL's farm league has invited Färjestad BK of the Swedish Hockey League to St. John's, Newfoundland, to take on the AHL's best players. But before they take part in the actual game, there was a skills competition. And during it, viewers were treated to […]
All-Pro Defensive End J.J. Watt Would Like You to Know He Doesn't Suck at Hockey (Video)
When you think of the Houston Texans' J.J. Watt, you think of blocked passes, vicious tackles, and all-around nasty defense. After all, he might just be the best defensive player in the NFL today. However, as his pass-swatting prowess suggests, Watt isn't just some big fat guy who gets in people's way. He's a gifted […]
OHL's Henri Ikonen Scores One-Handed Backhand Goal on Penalty Shot (Video)
You may be under the impression that two hands are always better than one, but Henri Ikonen of the OHL's Kingston Frontenacs is here to prove you wrong with this: a ridiculous one-handed backhand goal on a short handed penalty shot attempt during Sunday's 4-2 victory over the Sarnia Sting. Check it out:
Bruins' Loui Eriksson Gets Whacked in the Face with a Stick, Loses Two Teeth, Returns to Game (GIFs)
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This Day In Sports History (February 7th) — Darryl Sittler
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Stat Line of the Night — 2/6/2014 — Max Pacioretty
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Justin Bieber Crashes Hockey Practice in Atlanta, Skates Around in Gold Chains and Skinny Jeans (Videos)
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Stat Line of the Night — 2/4/2014 — Carey Price
With the start of the Olympics right around the corner, you know that Steve Yzerman, Mike Babcock and the rest of the Team Canada coaching staff will be keeping a close eye on their goaltending situation. Perhaps the one goaltender they'll be watching closest is Montreal Canadiens netminder Carey Price. And if they were watching […]
Marc-Andre Fleury Makes Ridiculous Glove Save on Sens' Erik Karlsson (Video)
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Stat Line of the Night — 2/3/2014 — Patrick Kane
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Stat Line of the Night — 1/29/2014 — Ben Scrivens
I was tempted to award this "Stat Line of the Night" to Kevin Durant (33 points, 7 rebounds, and five assists vs. the Heat), but it's not every day an NHL goalie records a 59-save shutout. More accurately, an NHL goalie had never recorded a 59-save shutout until last night, when Edmonton Oilers goaltender Ben […]
Stat Line of the Night — 1/28/2014 — Carey Price
The Montreal Canadiens entered Tuesday's game against the Carolina Hurricanes having lost their last four straight. Those losses have been rough on Carey Price, who was pulled on two occasions while allowing 17 goals against. The Habs' netminder was looking to turn things around at the Bell Center last night, and he would do just […]


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The playoffs for each of the four major winter leagues are under way, with the champion of each league slated to head to the Caribbean Series in Venezuela from Feb. 2-7. Here's a quick look at each league's playoff picture.
Dominican League
Mets outfielder Fernando Martinez went 5-for-6 with a three-run homer for Escogido in the Leones' 13-4 victory yesterday over the Gigantes, who lead the best-of-nine championship series 2-1 after squeaking out a 2-1 and a 1-0 victory to open the series.
Twins lefthander Francisco Liriano allowed one run (unearned) in five innings for Escogido while striking out six in the Leones' Game One loss, keeping his ERA at 0.00 through 27 playoff innings with a 30-5 K-BB mark. Reds outfielder Wladimir Balentien also fueled Escogido's playoff push, hitting .403/.452/.522 in 17 postseason games.
Reds third baseman Juan Francisco struggled in the postseason, but hit .302/.352/.566 with 11 home runs for the Gigantes in 46 regular-season games. Rangers outfielder Nelson Cruz was a standout for the Gigantes in the postseason, hitting .273/.407/.682 with three home runs in eight playoff games.
Venezuelan League
San Francisco's Pablo Sandoval powered the Navegantes del Magallanes to the best-of-seven championship series against Caracas. The series begins tonight.
Sandoval, 23, hit .395/.425/.604 in 20 regular-season games, then batted .477/.500/.932 with five home runs in 10 playoff appearances. Cubs 25-year-old catcher Robinson Chirinos also provided a spark for the Magallanes in the regular season and the playoffs, hitting .366/.420/.641 with 10 home runs in 48 regular-season games before adding five more home runs and hitting .333/.365/.633 in 14 playoff contests.
Strong pitching helped fuel Caracas' playoff run. Astros 29-year-old lefthander Gustavo Chacin maintained a 2.83 ERA in 31 2/3 innings over five playoff starts, while Braves 22-year-old lefty Jose Ortegano allowed just one earned run in his 13 postseason innings.
Mexican Pacific League
Hermosillo will face Mazatlan in the finals, which begins tomorrow. Vinny Castilla (yes, Vinny Castilla) hit .289/.349/.632 with three home runs in 10 playoff games for Hermosillo, while Diamondbacks 27-year-old lefty Travis Blackley helped pace the Hermosillo rotation with a 1.83 ERA in 20 innings over three playoff starts.
Puerto Rican League
The Lobos de Arecibo beat the Indios de Mayaguez 6-0 yesterday to even the series at 1-1 in the best-of-seven semifinals, while the Criollos de Caguas won 2-1 in 10 innings to take a 2-1 series lead over the Gigantes de Carolina.
Arecibo, which finished first in the regular season with a 25-14 record, ranked first in the league in both runs scored (209) and runs allowed (179). Mets 31-year-old first baseman Michael Abreu struggled for Triple-A Buffalo in 2009 but hit .351/.444/.718 with 12 home runs in 36 games for Arecibo to win the league MVP, leading the league in home runs and slugging and ranking second in on-base percentage.


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OCEAN SHORES, Wash. – Detectives have interviewed a 21 year old female and her boyfriend in the homocide investigation that begun Friday evening when a woman discovered the remains of a newborn baby on an Ocean Shores property. Hoquiam Police Chief Jeff Myers tells us as a result of citizen tips , investigators developed a possible identification of the birth mother Saturday, at the nearby Oasis Motel, where it's believed the baby was born. Grays Harbor County Sheriff's as well as Aberdeen and Hoquiam detectives are aiding in the investigation.
Myers said the body was discovered Friday evening when a woman walking her dog in the 200 block of Fisher Avenue NE, noticed a rag hanging on a branch. This area of the street is lined with unimproved lots with trees and brush.
Fisher Avenue NE is south of the Ocean Shores Airport off of Duck Lake Drive.
The woman looked into the brush and saw what she thought was the body of an infant. She summoned an off-duty Ocean Shores fire fighter/ paramedic who lives in the immediate neighborhood to check. He and paramedics from the Ocean Shores Fire Department checked the body and determined the infant was dead.
It appeared the child had been very recently born. There was no evidence the birth had occurred at the location. However, there was noted trauma to the body.
Ocean Shores Police responded to the scene and secured it pending the arrival of a deputy coroner from the Grays Harbor County Coroner's Office. Ocean Shores PD is investigating the scene with the assistance of detectives from the Hoquiam Police Department and the Grays Harbor County Sheriff's Department.
The Coroner's Office removed the body and made arrangements for an autopsy to determine the cause of death. It is expected this will take place in the next few days. The Coroner's Office will be responsible to release any information as to identification or to notify any next-of-kin.
Due to inclement weather conditions at the time, including heavy rain and wind, the scene was secured overnight by Ocean Shores PD. This incident was considered a homicide investigation pending a determination from the Coroner's Office.
Investigators returned to the scene this morning, Saturday April 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM to search for latent evidence. The trees and brush around where the body was found were cleared during the evidence search. The location was measured and evidence was collected.
The investigation is ongoing and there will be more information provided as it becomes available.


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If the scenario envisioned for the future of the Arab situation — based on the way the experienced analyst Mohamed Hassanein Heikal sees development prospects in Egypt and the Arab world, and according to some reliable western data and sources from research centers and decision-making bodies — turns out to be true, we could say that Arab countries are heading towards a type of "Brotherhoodization." This would mean the hegemony of political Islam, especially the Muslim Brotherhood, over all of the Arab countries. Furthermore, it would indicate the end of the "militarization" era or military dominance in these countries.
Excluding the special case of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) countries, we can say that this "Brotherhoodization" has defined the political arena across the Arab world over the past few decades. This hegemony has been witnessed in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Sudan, Yemen, Algeria, Libya and to some extent Tunisia. If we look at the first two Arab countries that were successful in achieving regime change and subsequently witnessed the Muslim Brotherhood's rise to power — Tunisia and Egypt — we see that these forces in these countries have an excessive attraction to power and no longer care about society's other issues. Let us not forget the debate in Egypt over the Brotherhood's efforts to control major decision making posts or the complaints issued by Tunisia's opposition against the ruling Ennahda Party and President Moncef Marzouki's party. The latter is an ally of Ennahda in parliament and government, yet in a speech delivered on Marzouki's behalf during the party's last conference, he expressed his resentment against Ennahda seizing the entirety of the political and media scenes in the country.
When speaking on Arabic satellite TV talk shows, Brotherhood representatives and supporters do not use politically correct statements. Rather, they explicitly say that it is their right, as winners of the elections, to rebuild the country's agencies in line with the dominant political and partisan tendency. This is something that has never been seen in countries with democratic traditions and which experienced a periodic rotation of power between major parties or party coalitions. It is as if the Brotherhood is in a rush to seize this historical moment that was only granted by a Western-American plan in the first place. Heikal probably noticed this when he said that the Brotherhood's great joy at being recognized by the West prevented them from deeply considering the consequences of their actions if they go ahead with the "Brotherhoodization" of the state. This "Brotherhoodization" is intended to offset an earlier and ongoing US plan to promote the Shiite Islamic Dawa Party in Iraq, and to counter the Iranian factor. When considering the path the region is on, we should be prepared for anything.
Whatever our assessment of Qatar was following its independence, the state's secular character has been successful in protecting the national fabric from being torn or dismantled in any way. If the building of religious states continues — whose features are becoming more and more obvious — the next debate will not take place between secularists and their opponents, which is a healthy and creative debate, but rather between representatives of different religions and sects. This would return the Arab world to the past, and give Israel its long-awaited golden gift: for Arabs to be drowning in their own sectarian disputes, thus strengthening Israel's total dominance and allowing them to seize additional Palestinian and Arab land.


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In late April, Amazon.com Inc. invited a group of journalists to its Seattle headquarters, in part so they could listen to Marie Force talk about her amazing new life.
In the romance novel industry, Ms. Force is a superstar. Her prolific bibliography, much of it self-published, has resulted in some 2.5 million copies sold. So financially rewarding is her career as an author that she recently quit her day job, hired her own staff and bought a new Mercedes.
Mostly, Ms. Force talked at length about an Amazon tool called Kindle Direct Publishing. In essence, KDP is a digital e-book service that allows authors to side-step the traditional publishing process by acting as their own publishers. Even though she currently has contracts with several traditional publishing houses, Ms. Force makes no secret of the fact that she is largely unimpressed with the services they provide. She says her relationship with them is one of necessity, at least until she can find some other way to get her books on the shelves at Target and other large retailers.
"It hasn't happened yet, and when it does, I will have no further use for traditional publishing."
Amazon's relationship with the traditional gatekeepers of the content it sells – publishers, record companies, movie studios – has never been straightforward. On one hand, the world's most powerful online retailer relies on those companies for the bulk of its digital media offerings – one of the fastest-growing product categories in its catalogue. But at the same time, Amazon is under growing pressure to finally start turning its massive customer base into equally massive profits. That means, in turn, that the retailer is under similar pressure to squeeze its content partners even harder for lower prices.
Or perhaps, if that doesn't work, side-step them entirely. In a myriad of industries, from music to movies to books to the very basic business of selling things, Amazon is simultaneously playing nice with the giants of the old guard even as it goes about creating the tools, services and market conditions that may one day render them irrelevant.
Device gambit
Behind a glass case in the lobby of Day 1 North (an Amazon campus building named after a quip by company founder Jeff Bezos that it's still "day one" on the Internet, an atmosphere ripe for innovation) there's a copy of the very first book Amazon ever sold. It's a a computer modelling and programming text called Fluid Concepts and Creative Analogies.
Twenty years ago, Amazon began life as a seller of physical books. Over time, the company grew to become the world's biggest digital storefront, shipping everything from baby strollers to hot sauce.
But more recently, much of Amazon's sales growth has come from digital, rather than physical items – everything from e-books to movies to music to mobile applications. Indeed, the company has spent billions on three lines of hardware (e-readers, tablets and, this year, a new set-top box called Fire TV) designed not to make money, but to facilitate the consumption of content.
"We price our devices effectively to break even," said Dave Limp, vice-president of Amazon Kindle devices. "We want to make money when our customers use our devices, not when they buy our devices."
In many ways, the strategy has worked. According to David Naggar, vice-president of Kindle, customers who purchased a Kindle e-reader or downloaded the Kindle reader app on another device bought on average four times as many books from Amazon as they did in the 12-month period prior.
Amazon's fundamental appeal to consumers has always been predicated primarily on two factors – speed and price. The company has invested heavily in building its capacity to speed up shipments, in large part by building countless fulfilment centres around the globe. Indeed, the company has become so good at getting products to consumers quickly that it can now realistically aim for same-day delivery on many of its products.
But on the issue of price, Amazon needs help. The company already demands the lowest prices possible from its publishing partners, but a combination of low sales prices and massive investment in its shipping infrastructure means that, in many cases, Amazon's profit margins are almost non-existent.
So while Amazon continues to expand its product offerings at a brisk clip, profit remains elusive.
"Amazon is really, really convenient and also very cheap, and this is why they are as sort of monolithic as they are,' said Laura Miller, a New York-based author and publishing industry observer. "But they're not very profitable and it's not very clear how long they can sustain that."
For years, investors were inclined to let Amazon generate minuscule profit, as the company continued to reinvest in what has become perhaps the most powerful and expansive Web-based store on the planet. But as of late, Amazon's inability to make money has started to affect its perceived worth.
Late last month, the company reported earnings for the March quarter that were largely in line with analyst expectations. But its small operating profit of just $146-million (U.S.), as well guidance for an operating loss in the coming quarter, sent the company's stock down almost 10 per cent on the day. Indeed, Amazon shares today trade at about $100 less than the $400 highs they reached at the beginning of this year – as BGC Financial analyst Colin Gillis puts it, "the stock is trading as if investor patience has come to an end."
For the better part of 20 years, Amazon has commanded one of the loftiest price-to-earnings ratios of any public company in the world – despite not generating much profit. Instead, the company has grown by leaps and bounds in almost every other way. Its campus dominates much of downtown Seattle's north end. More people work for Amazon today than its neighbour, 20 kilometres to the west, Redmond-based Microsoft Corp.
But if investor patience has in fact run out, as the reaction to the company's last quarterly earnings may suggest, then Amazon will find itself under even more pressure to squeeze better margins from its content partners. And for a company as notoriously combative as Amazon, that process can sometimes get ugly.
Messy disputes
Earlier this month, Hachette Book Group (HBG), one of the smaller of the major publishing houses in North America, found that its books were taking an unusually long time to ship through Amazon.
Normally, customers could expect the retail giant to have many of Hachette's titles on their doorstep within a couple of days. Instead, the wait times were closer to four weeks – and in the meantime, Amazon suggested they purchase similar titles from other publishers, which would be delivered much quicker.
"We are satisfying all of Amazon's orders promptly, and notifying them constantly of forthcoming publicity events and of out-of-stock situations on their website," a Hachette spokesperson said in a statement. "Amazon is holding minimal stock and restocking some of HBG's books slowly, causing 'available 2-4 weeks' messages, for reasons of their own."
Amazon's disputes with book publishers have been well-documented and often messy. Four years ago, during a dispute with the publishing house Macmillan over e-book prices, the online retailer simply removed a user's ability to purchase Macmillan titles from the Amazon website – a tactic that can have immediate and profound financial repercussions for the publisher, especially given that Amazon controls somewhere between a third and half of the book market in the U.S.
At stake in the Hachette dispute is not only the publisher's own sales, but also Amazon's ability to muscle better terms out of its publishing partners. Both companies are caught up in a bitter fight over e-book pricing terms, with Amazon trying to get the lowest prices possible from the publisher to boost its anemic profit margins. An Amazon spokeswoman refused to comment on the matter.
According to some observers, part of the acrimony between Amazon and some of its content partners is likely a result of culture.
"Jeff Bezos admires people who are disagreeable and love debate and like to fight," said John-Kurt Pliniussen, an associate professor at the Queen's School of Business.
"If that's the way the people are, and they're hired for those skills, you can just imagine how they do business with other companies – it's going to be like that."
But beyond the headline disputes, Amazon is starting to employ a strategy that has the potential to affect traditional content gatekeepers much more significantly than the occasional passive-aggressive broadside.
Quite simply, Amazon is starting to create the content itself.
Going direct
Listening to an Amazon executive describe KDP, the company's self-publishing service, it's hard not to think of it as a direct competitor to traditional publishing houses.
"If you want to be published by a publisher and if they'll buy your rights and publish your books, that's great, and we're very happy to sell those books," said Kindle executive Mr. Naggar. "If you decide that you want to control your own rights, decide what your cover looks like, earn a 70-per-cent royalty, be available globally instantly, KDP is now available to you as well."
(Asked whether Amazon makes more money every time it sells a KDP book, compared with books delivered by a traditional publisher, an Amazon spokeswoman refused to comment).
The book industry may be the most immediate example of an area where Amazon is starting to – at least in some cases – replace the traditional middleman, but it is not the only one. The company also runs a service called CreateSpace, which allows musicians and movie makers to self-publish their work and sell it on-demand – in physical form – through Amazon.
"Historically ... [if] you want to make an album, well you're going to have to do a minimum run of CDs or DVDs or books of some minimum value," said Bill Carr, vice-president of music and video at Amazon. "But the ability to print on-demand or burn on-demand is a meaningful innovation, a meaningful way of solving that problem."
So far, CreateSpace has been responsible for only a small portion of Amazon's overall media offerings. But the company has taken the strategy one step further by launching its own production company. Amazon Studios, announced last year, is currently producing five original TV shows, following the lead of digital media companies such as Netflix.
Amazon's ongoing effort to act as middleman in the creation of almost every sort of digital content has also, more recently, seen the company expand into newer fields. Amazon AppStream, a cloud-based service, allows app developers to run complex or processor-intensive applications remotely, taking advantage of Amazon's massive cloud computing infrastructure. In effect, the service is part of a group of offerings through which the company hopes to do for app developers what its self-publishing tools have done for authors.
Taken in sum, Amazon's myriad expansions mean the company is positioned as a potential gatekeeper in virtually every major area of digital content. As such, should investors continue losing patience with the company's financial results, Amazon's acrimonious disputes over pricing and profit margins may begin to be felt by more than just a few publishing houses.
"I remember seeing [an illustration] of Jeff Bezos a while back," Mr. Pliniussen said. "He had six arms, he was smiling and each hand was holding a different product group.
"Now it may be more appropriate for him to have 18 arms."


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The biggest news over the weekend was 41 year old Jens Lehmann's return and the commanding difference he made in goal. It was supposed to be a quiet segue into a week of preparation before the all important Liverpool match.
But today, Stan Kroenke or "Silent Stan" made waves completing a virtual takeover of Arsenal excepting for Alisher Usmanov's 27% share. Unlike other takeover's this was done from the inside with Kroenke steadily adding to his share since 2007 leaving him a hair trigger away from the 30% needed for an automatic bid. The more relevant question is how has he secured this financing and more worryingly, will he do a "Glazer" and use the clubs assets to finance debt? Nothing prevents him from using the club's multi-billion pound dividends or its cash reserve to pay down debt.
He did not offer an answer to his source of funds other than an assurance: "The offer will not be funded by way of any debt finance …. for which the payment of interest on, repayment of or security for any liability [contingent or otherwise] will depend on the business of Arsenal."
The takeover took place with an implication of trust in Kroenke's integrity. Nina Bracewell-Smith and Danny Fiszman, two of Arsenal's oldest hands agreed to sell off their shares. It is hard to imagine them being a party to this agreement without the reassurance the US billionaire was using his own assets to secure the £731m needed for full control. In addition, he's been a board member since 2009 unlike Usmanov.
Kroenke is Walmart's scion (he's married to James Walton's daughter). His personal fortune is assessed at $2.6b (130 on the Forbes 400 rich list) with wife, Ann coming at 99th with a $3.4b with estimate.
Over the years, he's transformed his initial real estate and retail success to building a thriving sports empire. He became a full owner of the NFL's St Louis Rams (valuation $929b) , the 2000 Super Bowl champions after transferring his ownership of the Denver Nuggets, a regular NBA playoff contender and the NHL's Colorado Avalanche, two time Stanley Cup champions to his son. Last year, his soccer team, the Colorado Rapids won their first MLS title. He also owns an Arena football team and a lacrosse team.
His sports company Kroenke Sports Enterprise (KSE) also owns Pepsi Center, home of the Nuggets and Avalanche) and is a co-owner of Dick Sporting Goods Park, the Rapids soccer specific stadium. In recent years, he has branched out into sports merchandising and TV media.
This is a businessman with considerable assets diversified over a myriad of successful professional teams. He also has considerable clout in the real estate and retail sector by his personal association with the Walmart family. There is a history of long term investing, prudent decision making, and a passion for improving his teams. An unobtrusive persona maybe his biggest virtue as there is rarely a mention of his interfering with the players, administrators, and coaching staff.
Ivan Gazidis, Arsenal's CEO was also quick to point out that Kroenke who he knew in his MLS days would not interfere in Arsenal's daily business.
" So I don't think we will see dramatic changes. At the same, I do think that Mr Kroenke brings experience in the sports arena. He's got tremendous experience in the United States and also experience now over here in England."
The gut feeling is that Kroenke will not use Arsenal to load his personal debt like the Glazers and Tom Hicks, both took over Man Utd and Liverpool in highly leveraged buyouts without ever gaining the fans trust. And he has reposed faith in Arsene Wenger. So far the Arsenal Supporter's Trust has not commented on these significant developments but one suspects it will not be an unfavourable assessment of the situation when they finally do. It appears a good marriage between self made man with an eye for detail and a penchant for maximizing opportunities with a conservative spending club with a self sustaining business model in prime condition to negotiate FIFA's financial fair play rules.
Kroenke in his own words:
"All of my mentors told me to find something I loved to do and try to be the best at it. Personal recognition isn't something I have thought much about – I think if you work hard and are honest, then good things will happen."
The only thing one has a quibble with is the timing. With Arsenal's title hopes delicately poised and dependent on their remaining performances, this could prove an ill afforded distraction as momentous as this one. On a related note, there is every indication Arsenal may start touring the USA in their pre-season and tap into an audience hungry for a taste of soccer different from say that of Man Utd and Chelsea.