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PORTLAND — A local manufacturer's plans to build thousands of houses in Haiti using "green" construction boards is being questioned by a local engineering lab as to whether it can hold up in the Haitian climate.
The product goes by several names, including SwissCell and Honeycomb. It uses lightweight building sheets with a honeycomb of treated paper inside. The idea is to provide a strong but cheap construction board, sometimes made with entirely recycled materials.
The Portland-based company that hopes to manufacture the product in Haiti is Pacific Green Innovations, run by CEO Charles Fox. But a Portland lab tested samples of the product supplied by Pacific Green, in conditions simulating the intensely hot and humid environment of Haiti. That test raised serious questions about whether the material is ready to use in the construction of homes.
The story starts more than two years ago, with Charles Fox.
Charles Fox: "Originally we had been visiting with some people that had created what they called 'SwissCell.'"
Charles Fox initially wanted to use "SwissCell," a European invention, for doors and countertops. Then in January 2010, an enormous earthquake shook Haiti.
Charles Fox: "I realized there was something far more important we could be doing, rather than putting up doors and countertops with this. That we had a product that could be used to build homes in Haiti that we could put up quick shelters with."
Pacific Green Innovations started developing its own magnesium board-based product with honeycombed paper inside.
At first, Fox's goal was to build 1,000 homes in Haiti. More recently, he talked about a longer-term goal of 10,000 homes. The company joined with Portland State University to put a demonstration home on the South Park Blocks, a year ago June.
The house was taken down, and then re-assembled a few miles west in Beaverton. Watching along the way was PSU engineering professor, Sergio Palleroni. He says he saw something troubling, when his students were taking down the Haiti house they'd put up with Pacific Green.
Sergio Palleroni: "Both when we started to take it apart here and later in Beaverton, when it began to hit the rainy season that we began to realize there was a little of a salt or a powder surface on it, and we were wondering why this was happening, if it was totally water-impregnable."
So, Palleroni brought some pieces of the building material back to the PSU Green Building Lab to get a class of graduate students to check it out. Seth Moody was one of them.
Seth Moody: "The outside portions of the material absorbed a huge amount of water and really lost its structural capability, and therefore then really could not maintain its form with the honeycomb. So under loads – under bending loads, it basically just delaminated, very quickly."
Sergio Palleroni says the lab tested the product repeatedly and found moisture and similar delaminating— or peeling problems. The test results submitted to Pacific Green Innovations recommended against using the magnesium and honeycomb material in environments like Haiti.
Sergio Palleroni: "It's only when you measure it, that you find that it's actually losing – and we ran this test various times – about 60-or-more percent of its structural integrity."
Pacific Green Innovations contends Palleroni didn't test the product correctly – though the company did supply material to the university. Pacific Green's operations' director John Moore says PSU should have tested boards with coating that wasn't on the sample PSU tested. He says that coating would be used on the materials for houses that will be built.
John Moore: "So, if you would've put the other coatings on and whatnot, I think it would've been a different test result."
Moore says the boards they're using now are different from what PSU tested. And Charles Fox says he's gotten the reassurance he needs from the supplier that the product is safe to use in Haiti.
Charles Fox: "The supplier of the material has 20-thousand hours of testing on the material, and they stand fully behind the fact that it can be used in Haiti, and throughout the Caribbean, and in tropical climates. They've gone so far as to put a 30-year warranty on it."
But PSU's Palleroni defends his methods, saying the siding is very difficult to coat adequately. He says he's hoping the company will find a way to make the product work.
Sergio Palleroni: "They're continuing to develop it –- it's a product in development. If they can hit it on the nose, it has tremendous potential because it's basically made of the two materials that make up most of our waste dumps."
But Palleroni is concerned that while the product is being developed, Fox is headed toward production.
Makers of the original SwissCell product Fox looked at has already gone out of business trying to "hit it on the nose" as Palleroni would say. In an email, SwissCell's trade agent agreed that the honeycomb material is prone to moisture problems -– but he couldn't speak specifically to the combination with magnesium board that Pacific Green is using.
Pacific Green acknowledges that the product is continuing to evolve. CEO Charles Fox says after nearly losing one-third of his private equity, a factory in Haiti will soon roll out housing panels for everything from homes to orphanages. But Fox says he's not setting goals in terms of thousands of homes anymore.
Charles Fox: "We want to build as many homes as possible. But it's going to take a lot of different efforts from a lot of different groups in order to get that. Can we build 10-thousand homes ourselves? Absolutely not. Can they get 10-thousand homes out of that one factory? Probably not. Can we open another factory? Absolutely."
Fox says he has everything in place to open a factory with 300 Haitians on the payroll, with enough material to build about 40 homes. He says housing panels could roll out the door as soon as or three weeks. Sergio Palleroni at Portland State University has plans to be in Haiti, too. He won a grant a few months ago to study sustainable building in the developing world, on the island.
(This was first reported for opbnews.org)


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A Byron teenager who crashed a golf cart last November killing her passenger pleads guilty.
18 year-old Courtney Greene pleaded guilty in Genesee County Court Monday morning to charges of criminally negligent homicide and driving while her ability was impaired.
The plea was arranged between Greene's lawyer and the District Attorney's office.
On November 26th, Greene was operating a golf cart on the Byron-Holly Road when it was struck from behind.
A passanger in the golf cart 18-year-old Zachary Rusin, was critically injured and died the next day.
Greene had originally been charged with Vehicular Manslaughter.
In exchange for her plea, Greene faces 1 1/3 to four years in prison at her sentencing September 6th.

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|July 30, 1999, 12:02 AM
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Tonight a friend came by with a Chinese SKS which he couldn't reassemble. He related that he had tried several times, but was at a loss as to why the handguard and gas cylinder tube could not be refitted onto the gas block.
I also tried and could not reassemble the weapon. Examining the gas block and its relation to the gas cylinder tube, I noted that the fit seemed extremely tight. A closer look at the gas block revealed that it had expanded from its original diameter. This explained the tight fit which prevented the gun from being reassembled.
What caused the gas block to expand was the impact of the gas piston when it returned to its position of rest. Apparently the gas block (which will probably have to be replaced in the due course of time) was peened each time the gas piston slammed forward.
My remedy was to (using a file with a safe edge) file away that portion of the gas block which formed a distinctive ring. Once the offending metal was removed, the gun reassembled quite easily.
While Simonov's design is sound, the materials used in its execution by the Chinese was not. This is the first time I have seen it in an SKS. My own Chinese SKS has not developed this problem and I suspect that as this was an export gun, standards were dropped. Has anybody else had similar experience with their SKS?
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Gary, I have a regular customer who has roughly a dozen SKS rifles. He's brought 3 of them to me, all chinese, with the same problem. I used the same fix on them as you did. As you said, the materials used in the Chinese versions isn't exactly first rate. George
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Pagan Pride Day
Augusta's third annual Pagan Pride Day begins at 1 p.m. Saturday at the gazebo outside Lake Olmstead, 3 Milledge Road.
Spiral Rhythm headlines the event, which ends at 6 p.m. The day also includes a fire performance, harvest ritual, vendors and an information table about paganism.
Admission is free, but participants are asked to bring a nonperishable food item for a food drive.
Anniversary celebration
Roy Rogers, the state superintendent of Georgia Church of The Nazarene, will be the guest speaker at Bible Fellowship Church, 3701 Old Petersburg Road in Martinez, at 10:30 a.m. Sunday.
The worship service will also kick off the 53rd anniversary celebration of The Byrd Family Gospel Singers. See biblefellowshipministry.org for more information.
Blessing of the Animals
St. Teresa of Avila Catholic Church will hold a blessing of the animals at 3 p.m. Sunday. Any animals or pets can be brought to the church, 4921 Columbia Road, Grovetown, for a blessing. Call (706) 863-4956 for more information.
St. Augustine's Episcopal Church will hold four services to bless animals at 6, 6:30, 7 and 7:30 p.m. during First Friday. The services will all be held outside Sho Ane's Design Studio, 1131 Broad St. Pets must be on a leash or in a crate. Call (706) 738-6676 for information.
Ron Gibbs performs
Ron Gibbs and Gabriel's Call will perform two Southern gospel concerts in Augusta this weekend. The first is 11 a.m. Sunday at Crawford Avenue Baptist Church, 507 Crawford Ave. The second is at 6 p.m. Sunday at Pine View Baptist Church, 117 Pleasant Home Road.
God's Enduring Promises
A women's Bible study series titled Covenant: God's Enduring Promises by Kay Arthur starts Tuesday at Anglican Church of The Holy Trinity in North Augusta. The group meets for nine weeks from 9:30 to 11:30 a.m. Call (803) 341-9501 or see www.holytrinityna.org.
Women of Faith
Sheila Walsh will speak at a Women of Faith event at Trinity-on-the-Hill United Methodist Church. The author and worship leader appears from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Oct. 8 at the church, 1330 Monte Sano Ave. The cost is $25 with an optional $6 lunch. See trinityonthehill.net for tickets.
Home energy audit
A free home energy audit training class is offered from 9:30 to 11:30 a.m. Oct. 8 at Beulah Grove Baptist Church, 1434 Poplar St.
The class is conducted in partnership with Georgia Interfaith Power & Light. The class teaches how to reduce home utility bills, make a home more energy efficient and use less resources while becoming better stewards of creation.
Reservations are required. Reserve space online at gipl.kintera.org/HEAT or call (404) 588-9978.
The Honor Event luncheon
Radio station WAFJ-FM (88.3) will mark clergy appreciation month with The Honor Event, a luncheon for pastors, youth ministers, elders and church leaders. The event begins at noon Thursday at Fairview Presbyterian Church, 1101 Carolina Ave., North Augusta.
The event is free but registration is required. See wafj.com for information.
A Christmas Celebration
Local church and school groups are asked to audition for The Real Story: A Christmas Celebration in Drama and Song, to be performed at Grover C. Maxwell Performing Arts Theatre at Augusta State University on Dec. 10.
Each group has the opportunity to produce a five- to 15-minute Biblical play celebrating the birth of Jesus. Any age can participate. Participants will receive a portion of ticket sales to donate to organizations of their choice.
Contact Christina Heckman at Augusta State at (706) 667-4438 or firstname.lastname@example.com for more information. The deadline for application is Oct. 31.


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SAN DIEGO – The City Council voted 8-0 Tuesday to move to a Level 2 drought alert. Water-use restrictions will start June 1. New rules include watering only on days assigned by the city and watering only for 10 minutes per irrigation station. San Diego officials said they will continue developing property-specific water budgets in case the restrictions don't work during the summer, when water use is the highest.
ENCINITAS – Trustees selected a superintendent from Ojai to be the next head of the Encinitas Union School District, it was reported last week. The official board vote to hire Timothy Baird, head of the Ojai Unified School District, is scheduled for tomorrow. Baird has served as superintendent in Ojai since 2003. He previously worked as an elementary and high school principal near San Luis Obispo and was an assistant principal in Coalinga. BALBOA PARK – San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders announced an initiative Thursday to turn Balboa Park into a solar-power showcase by investing millions of dollars to bring clean energy to the renowned tourist destination. The money would come from the federal economic stimulus package. San Diego expects to receive more than $56 million in stimulus money, including $12.5 million in Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grants. Sanders wants to spend $5 million of grant money for solar installations in the 1,200-acre park.
SCRIPPS RANCH – A couple were found dead in their home on Golden Birch Way on Tuesday night after an apparent murder-suicide. Grace Choe, 62, and Richard Young Choe, 67, died of gunshot wounds to the head. A handgun was found near Richard Choe's body, police said. The Medical Examiner's Office has classified Grace Choe's death as a homicide and her husband's as suicide. Neighbors described the Choes as quiet and friendly.
EAST COUNTY – County officials have backed off from an unpopular proposal to realign Fuerte Drive and say they are now looking at other ways to reduce speeding on the Mount Helix road, it was reported last week. Costs for the plans ranged from $1.8 million to $6.2 million, with the most extensive realignment requiring the condemnation of two houses and taking property from 10 other yards. Officials are now considering traffic-calming measures, such as signs or new striping.
IMPERIAL BEACH – Seattle-based Grindline Skateparks was selected Wednesday by the City Council to design and construct a new skatepark. The city received seven proposals to build a 7,500-square-foot skatepark at the Sports Park on Imperial Beach Boulevard. Imperial Beach has $136,000, most of it from a grant from county Supervisor Greg Cox, to spend on a skatepark.


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MOSCOW — Thousands of opposition supporters gathered Saturday outside the old KGB headquarters in central Moscow to mark a year of mass protests against Vladimir Putin and his government.
The turnout was far smaller than the tens of thousands who filled Moscow streets in protests that erupted after fraud-plagued parliamentary elections last December. But unlike most of those protests, Saturday's gathering was not authorized and those who came risked arrest and heavy fines.
Soon after Putin returned to the presidency in May, Russia passed a law raising the fine for participating in unauthorized rallies to the equivalent of $9,000, nearly the average annual salary.
Even if the protest had been authorized, the opposition would have struggled to draw a crowd. Enthusiasm for street demonstrations has waned, in part because of disillusionment with the opposition leaders, while polls show that discontent with Putin's government has continued to rise.
Police dispersed the rally after 21/2 hours. Several prominent opposition figures were among dozens detained in the course of the gathering, but all were released within hours.Comment on this story
There was a heavy police presence around the approximately 3,000 people who came to Lubyanka Square for the rally. The square is outside the headquarters of the Federal Security Service, the main successor agency of the Soviet KGB.
The square also holds the Solovetsky Stone, a monument to the victims of political repression during the Soviet era. The stone comes from the Solovestky archipelago, the site of early prison camps considered the beginning of the Gulag system.
Many rally participants laid flowers at the stone, among them Boris Nemtsov, a veteran Russian politician now in the opposition.
"The people who have come here are free, honest and decent people," Nemtsov said "I'm very proud of our people."


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Hanover Co-op Opens Fourth Store
In late June, Hanover Consumer Cooperative Society opened a 15,000-square-foot facility in White River Junction, Vt., the co-op's fourth food store within a seven-mile radius. The co-op's new store occupies a space left vacant by the bankruptcy of the former owner/ operator of P&C grocery stores. Hanover Co-op, founded in 1936, has more than 18,000 active members.
General Manager Terry Appleby credits his staff for helping keep the co-op financially strong and able to take advantage of this opportunity. "We stayed profitable despite the recession and growing competition from chain stores, and now we are on solid footing to increase our services to members and customers."
The co-op's Merchandising and Operations Director, Tony White, added, "As soon as the board of directors gave management the thumbs-up, and we were confident that we had support from our neighbors at the Upper Valley Food Co-op right around the corner, our crew became very busy very quickly. The tremendous support from town officials and the property owners meant we could start work behind the scenes even before we had a signed lease."
The new store is one mile from the Upper Valley Food Co-op, which specializes in natural foods. The expectation at Hanover is for a balanced relationship between the two stores, with services that are more complementary than competitive. Chain stores in the region have been trying to grab every available space, so this is another victory for cooperatives. Added Appleby, "We'll be speaking directly with local residents and community groups to make sure the store carries products to match their tastes and budgets."
Since opening, the store has been averaging over 1,000 customers per day, and sales are ahead of projections. Demographically, the customer mix represents the community at large, including customers who rely on EBT assistance. White noted, "We've signed up over 375 members in the past four weeks. People continue to thank us for bringing them this store and comment how amazed they are by the way the co-op responds to their needs and requests."


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Dollarization: what's in it for US?
Should the United States care if other countries abandon their own currencies and adopt the dollar? Dollarization imparts benefits to the United States as well as costs, and these ought to be weighed as we decide what to do about the growing number of countries turning to dollarization or considering it.
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text: Well another successful Superbowl! Ate way to much, got to watch our home(ish) team win, and spend the day relaxing with the family! Spare ribs on the bottom rack, BBQ baked beans and bacon wrapped mushrooms and jalapeno's on the top. Soaking up the hickory smoke! Beans and poppers pulled, ribs getting some sauce and soaking in the heat for another 2 hrs. Ribs off the smoker - total of 5 hrs. at 250° bite tender, and pulled clean from the bone with just a little tug. Beans, beans the magic fruit! The more you eat the more you..... Bacony goodness! Sooooo gooood! Daughter re-heating a mushroom popper... lol The puppy knows where the goods are! The games MPP - Most Pathetic Puppy! LOL Hope you all had as good a day as we did! Keep smokin!


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Advice from a flexibility 'champion'
I was the captain of the baseball team my senior year, so I led the team through the regimented 20-minute stretch routine that began every practice but only because of my captaincy.
Not, in Coach Seip's opinion, because I was very flexible.
In fact, he used to walk between the rows of players and poke fun at my lack of flexibility. One day as we were doing the single-leg standing hamstring stretch that required a teammate to grab one leg at the ankle and raise it as high as possible, he stopped beside the first baseman on the jayvee squad and barked out, "Good god, lad, just because you could replace our fearless leader next year, doesn't mean you have to stretch like him."
Some players could actually get their leg atop the helper's shoulder. The other first baseman and I couldn't even get close.
Now this past cycling season was a confusing one for me. Interspersed between some solid performances a first place in a hilly 75-mile road race, a fourth at the state masters road race, a second at the state masters time trial, and a first place at the final time trial of the season I experienced a number of sub-par time-trial performances.
A number of thirds and fourths and fifths where I felt I could have won.
So I went to John Ireland, bike-fit expert and owner, of Sleeping Dogs Pro Cycles in Topton, PA, seeking answers.
To provide them, Ireland needed to precisely fit me to my time trial bike. He had me to warm up on a stationary bicycle and then tested my flexibility.
The first stretch was similar to the standing hamstring stretch Coach Seip had us do, but Ireland had me lie on an exercise table while he manipulated each leg and checked the angle with a medical protractor.
Afterwards, he looked a me quizzically, and said, "I don't believe this is right."
He stretched both legs again and made calculations. I remembered Coach Seip's taunts as beads of perspiration trickled from my forehead.
He checked the flexibility of my hips and then shared with me what he hadn't believed. At first, he didn't think it was possible that I could be so flexible.
That's because Ireland had stretched and measured somewhere between 250 and 300 cyclists some national class, some pros but no one had ever demonstrated the degree of flexibility I had.
A few weeks later when I went for a second fitting on my road bike, he greeted me by saying, "I just fit a former female gymnast, but her numbers weren't as good as yours."
So why share all this with you? Because Coach Seip was right. I really hadn't been that flexible.
I crashed near the end of the 2003 season and the pain was so intense that I assumed I had broken my hip. While the x-rays were negative, the doctor said the damage was still significant and the effects would linger.
He was correct. The discomfort forced me to shorten my typical weekend training rides for months and made training in the aerodynamic position needed for time trialing impossible.
Impossible that is, until I created a series of stretches specific to the time trial position and did them four times a week as part of my weightlifting workout for a few months.
The stretching may have done more than just make me more flexible, for the next year I won the inaugural Pain Mountain Time Trial, finished second in the masters state time trial, and did well enough overall to claim the Pennsylvania BAR (Best All-Around Rider) championship.
My stretching program can be summed up in a simple saying:
Get invested and get relaxed.
Part of my problem when I was stretching during high school for baseball (and basketball for that matter) is that I really didn't believe the stretching served any purpose. The purpose of the stretches was never explained, so it was hard for me to invest much effort.
For any stretching program to work, you have to believe the time you spend doing it is productive. Way back then, I didn't.
But that may not have been my fault.
That's because of how we did our stretching ballistically, almost bouncing sorts of movements and before any sort of a warm-up.
What I would feel years ago during that standing hamstring stretch were my hamstrings contracting, not elongating exactly the opposite of what is supposed to happen.
For muscles to elongate, they need to be both warm and relaxed.
The stretches I do now are relaxed but progressive and focus on attaining what bodybuilders call the mind-to-muscle link.
If I do the typical toe touch, for instance, just the tips of my fingers touch the ground for the first 10 seconds or so as I breath deeply, concentrating on feeling and relaxing the hamstrings. After that position feels comfortable, I breath deeply and picture gravity pulling down my torso.
I make sure that I hyperextend the hamstrings as I descend and before you know it, my palms are touching the floor.
I continue breathing deeply, trying to "clear" the muscles of any sort of tension.
In another 20 seconds or so, I stop and do a stretch that targets the quadriceps. After that, I stretch the glutes and the lower back together.
I do three different movements that target those same muscles, do all six a second time, and the whole sequence only takes about five minutes.


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Propagating your own peonies can be fun!
Tree peonies are usually propagated by grafting while herbaceous and Itoh peonies are usually propagated by root division. New peonies come from seed.
Peonies do not come true from seed (the only exception being large populations of species peonies that are isolated from other peonies) so each seedling is something new.
If you wish to multiply one of your prized herbaceous peonies your only real option is to divide it, or graft it if it is a tree peony.
If you are looking to create new varieties of peonies you will need to germinate seeds to find out what has been created.
The techniques below are the ones I use on my own peonies.
Crown Division
Crown division is the technique most used to propagate herbaceous and Itoh peonies. It should be done only in the early fall. The technique is as follows:
- In late August, early September cut down foliage of peony to be divided.
- If ground is very dry, water the plant the day before dividing.
- Dig plant up with a strong spade, taking as much of the root system as possible and being careful not to damage the crown.
- Wash soil from roots with a strong jet of water.
- Leave cleaned root system in the shade for several hours to soften it (this makes it less brittle and gives you more precision when cutting).
- Examine the plant carefully and plan your cuts.
- Each division must have at least one visible crown bud to grow. It is best however to have at least 3 buds per division.
- With a clean, strong knife and working on a rough work bench, make your first cut through the top of the crown being careful to cut down toward the work bench and away from yourself.
- If the plant has long tuberous roots it may make the process easier if the roots are trimmed back to between 6-8 inches from the crown.
- Continue to divide the plant until you have the desired number of divisions.
The new divisions can be stored in peat moss filled bags for several days as long as they are not subject to large swings in temperature.
The new divisions should be planted out in a suitable location, ensuring that the crown buds are no more than 2 inches below ground. See page on How to Grow for detailed planting instructions.
Germinating Seeds
Many desirable peonies are infertile meaning that they do not produce pollen or seeds. Many of the large double peonies fit this class. However if these large flower buds are removed the peony will often produce small single flowers which can often produce pollen and seeds.
Growing new plants from seeds is the only way a peony breeder can develop new varieties and it's also an interesting challenge.
The popular cultivars of yesterday and today do not come true from seed.
Germinating peony seeds (herbaceous or tree) is a must for anyone interested in breeding peonies. It can also be a rather interesting exercise because of the double dormancy of peony seed.
- Collect the seeds as soon as the pods begin to open (The harder the outer shell, the longer the first dormancy period).
- Place them in a sealed plastic bag with some barely moist vermiculite or soil-less germination mix.
- Place the sealed bags in a warm area of the house (not in the sun) and check them every week to see if the root has emerged and ensure they are still moist (but not wet!).
- Leave them in the warmth until the roots appear. This can take anywhere from a few weeks to several months.
- Once the roots appear and are about 2.5 cm or 1 inch in length, move the bag to a cool location. The temperature should be around 40 degrees F. (I put them in an old refrigerator in my basement.)
- Leave them in the cold for about 10-12 weeks.
- Check them regularly to see if the shoot has appeared.
- If it has, remove them immediately and pot them up in a soil less germination mix.
- Otherwise, after 12 weeks remove the partially germinated seeds and pot them as above.
- Depending on the time of year, you may have to grow them under lights for a few months before being able to transfer outside.
- Keep them under strong grow lights and keep them moist but not soggy. Over watering will kill the seedlings.
- Transfer them outside slowly as you would any other tender seedling They should however be outside in a seed bed by late summer.
Be prepared to wait several years, perhaps 5 or more, before seeing any flowers The first flowers are not always indicative of a plant's potential. It may well be 7 years before a mature, stable flower is obtained.
Seeds can also be sown directly in the ground where natural temperature cycles provide the conditions for dormancy and growth. When sown directly it is possible to wait until the second spring before the shoot appears. This is brought about by a mature seed with a hard seed coat not having enough time in the fall to overcome the first dormancy and send out a root.
The seed hence sits in the soil until the following spring, which brings the warm moist conditions required to break the first dormancy. As the summer draws to a close a root will be produced. The seed over winters again to overcome the second dormancy before producing a shoot the following spring.
This is by far the most used method today to propagate tree peonies. It is not particularly difficult but takes a bit of practice to get right. Essentially a small sections of tree peony branch is grafted onto a section of herbaceous peony root. The herbaceous root serves as a nurse root until the tree peony produces its own root system.
The Canadian Peony Society offers a video that describes in detail the techniques used to graft tree peonies.


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I saw this post discussing JAKK as a potential value candidate and was intrigued. Any time a stock gets crushed and trades at a 30% discount to the price a value investor offered to buy the entire company for, I'm more than a bit intrigued. Considering that the value investor in this case was Oaktree Capital Management, the family of funds founded by famed value investor Howard Marks (whose recent book The Most Important Thing was one of my five favorite investing books of the year), and I decided I had to research the stock.
A quick overview of the business- JAKK is a toy maker. This is normally a pretty steady business (sales were relatively stable during the 2000-2002 recession), but sales fell off a cliff during the "Great Recession". The toy business may also be facing slightly secular headwinds as children grow more interested in electronics at an earlier age.
In 2008, the company completed some relatively disasterous acquisitions, buying three companies from October – December and then writing down almost all off the goodwill (almost $40m versus today's market cap of $360m!) associated with the purchases by June. In terms of "I immediately regret this decision," the purchases weren't quite Bank of America buy Merrill Lynch (humorously, Merrill is one of JAKK's financial advisors) bad, but they're among the quickest/worst acquisitions I've ever seen.
Earlier this year, with JAKK's priced ~$15, Oaktree Capital Management offered to buy the entire company for $20. JAKK's rejected the buyout, saying it significantly undervalued the company… and then proceeded to turn in this bomb of a quarter that resulted in the stock dropping below where it was before Oaktree offered to buy them out.
With that in mind, let's start talking valuation and see if there's a value opportunity here. First, JAKK's is in a very, very strong financial position at this point. They currently have ~$230m in cash versus $90m in debt (not due till 2014). However, the company's last balance sheet is from September, when they have an A/R build up in preperation for the holiday selling season. As the season ends, A/R will come down. The company should easily end the quarter with ~$290m in cash. So let's make that adjustment and say that JAKK's currently has $200m in net cash, or a bit under $7.70 per share (26m shares outstanding). Given a current share price of $14, that's not bad at all.
Once you consider that net cash position, JAKK's looks pretty dang cheap on an earnings basis. Trailing twelve month EBIT comes in at $48.2m, or $1.46 per share. With an EV of ~$6.30 per share ($14 market price – $7.70 in net cash), the works out to an EV / EBIT of under 4.3x. That's pretty dang cheap for just about any business.
And when you start thinking about it compared to peers, it's downright ludicrous. Since all of their competitors have the same problem with working capital build, let's just ignore it and pull numbers straight from yahoo finance for a comparision. JAKK's trades for under 3x EV / trailing EBITDA, compared to over 9.1x for MAT and 7.2x for HAS.
Now, a lot of you are probably thinking "that's true, but that's on a trailing basis. JAKK's 4th Quarter (by far their most important) is going to be a disaster and EBITDA will likely drop significantly. So how do they stack up considering that?"
Great question.
I'm going to answer it by discussing why I think Oaktree saw value in JAKK, and then completely changing the valuation metric.
Oaktree likely thought to themselves- here's a significantly underlevered business that generates pretty steady cash flows. The business is clearly consolidating and brands are going into larger players hands. No matter what we do in the short to medium term, the endgame is pretty clear: JAKK's gets sold at a premium to one of the major competitors who can realize huge synergies.
Consider this- JAKK's gross margin started off the decade in the high 30%s and has slowly drifted down to the mid to low 30%s throughout the decade. Mattel's GM is in the high 40%s, Hasbro's in the high 50%s. Mattel and Hasbro both enjoy operating margins in the mid-teens, JAKK's (even when times are good) barely hits the double digits. That's a sign that size (and scale) can make a difference in this business.
Now think about how much value one of the big players could capture if they improved JAKK's operating margins. Full year 2010 margins came in at 6.7%. They'll likely be lower this year given deleveraging and the poor fourth quarter, but let's say they stay at 6.7%. Jakk preannounced full year sales would come in at $660m. If Mattel can increase their operating margins to 10% (well below what the rest of the company gets, and in line with what JAKKs made until the crisis), that would represent ~$20m in increased earnings power. At a 6x multiple, that synergy represents an increase in EV of $120m, or half of JAKK's current EV. Then think about what happens if Mattel can get JAKK's margins close to the rest of their business……
Given that a potential acquirer would likely be thinking about buying JAKK's and creating huge value from synergies, it might not make sense to look at JAKK's current earnings power. Instead, consider what they trade for on an EV / Sales basis compared to Mattel and Hasbro. JAKK's trades for ~0.33x EV / Sales (if we use $660m, their pre-announced figure, as their sales number). Mattel trades for 1.67x, and HAS trades for 1.3x. Those are some huge, huge discrepancies. That's what I think all these value investors saw in JAKK when they bought the shares, and that's the type of end game scenario I think Oaktree was looking at when they offered to buy the company.
Let's think about the full scenario. What thought they could improve JAKK's margins to 12.5% through synergies (below company average), and JAKK's long run revenue potential was $750m (remember, they went over $900m in 2008). That would give JAKK EBIT of ~$93m under Mattel's rule, and I wouldn't be surprised if that significantly underestimates the amount of synergies to be realized. Assuming all the debt converted, JAKK would have 33m shares out and net cash of $290m. If Mattel bought them for $25 per share, that would represent a multiple of 5.75x EV / potential EBIT. Seems like a good deal for everyone- Mattel buys them at a huge bargain and creates tons of value (plus plenty of upside if they can realize even more synergies or get sales back up to the $800-900m range) and JAKK's current shareholders make out like bandits and get a huge premium.
So, I'm clearly thinking JAKK's represents a great value at today's price. The market is clearly valuing JAKK's in its present form (or maybe even at a discount to its present form) but not assigning any value to their potential as a strategic target.
But, so far, I'm holding back on investing. There are some serious risks here that have me more than bit nervous.
First, insiders own basically no shares in this company. In total, insider ownership comes out to a measly 1.8%. That works out to total ownership of ~$5-6m. The CEO made more than $4m last year. If I were him, why the heck would I sell the company??? Same for the Chairman- the total he'd receive (not the profits, the total) on a buyout in the low 20s would be less than he made in 2008.
Second, capital allocation is terrible. Those acquisitions were just outrageous, and if the company truly believed they were- why aren't they getting more aggressive with the stock repurchase plan? They haven't bought a share back since the first quarter of this year. All of the debt is convertible, which would result in serious dilution for shareholders if it happened, and the company's preferred method for raising money seems to be converitble debt, as they issued this convertible debt to pay off their last round of convertible debt. Convert debt is probably the worst way to raise money, as it allows debt holders to enjoy all the upside of equity while protecting their downside, so it again draws serious questions around the company's capital allocation policies.
Finally, I'm not sure I really like the industry. My limited knowledge of toy companies suggests that they tend to find themselves in financial duress rather quickly if they don't capitalize on the "next big trend" or have enduring, . While JAKK claims to focus on "evergreen" brands rather than trends, it seems they do like to chase after hot toys in acquisitions, and many of their toys are produced on license, rather than owned brands. This greatly increases their risk as they could lose the license (as the did with WWE characters) or have to pay minimum royalty fees if sales suffer (as they will this quarter).
That about sums it up for me- the company appears staggeringly cheap at today's prices, but really questionable management incentives + capital allocation have kept me on the sidelines for now. I could see myself taking a position at some point,
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I saw this post discussing JAKK as a potential value candidate and was intrigued. Any time a stock gets crushed and trades at a 30% discount to the price a value investor offered to buy the entire company for, I'm more than a bit intrigued. Considering that the value investor in this case was Oaktree Capital Management, the family of funds founded by famed value investor Howard Marks (whose recent book The Most Important Thing was one of my five favorite investing books of the year), and I decided I had to research the stock.


text: To start, I'm a fairly experienced handloader. That said, I'm NOT too proud to learn from others. I started loading my own in 1976, at the age of 10 (hey, it's the only way my dad could keep my in .243 ammo, and I was loading for HIM a few years later). I haven't fired a factory rifle cartridge in years, although I do use factory handgun ammo in some cases. Through the years, I've been through 3 different .40 S&W chambered handguns (Firestar, CZ 75b, G27), and I just bought my 4th, a G23. I've collected a decent pile of brass as a result, and I have dies left from when I owned a G20 some years back. I have never loaded a single round of .40 S&W ammo, although as I said, I've loaded 10mm (that wasn't optional with 10mm prices being what they are). I want to start by using up some loading stock I already have, and I'll experiment from there. From the 10mm, I still have a full box (100) of Sierra 165 gr "power jacket" bullets. I also have about a half box (50) of 165 gr Gold Dots. I'll use these to experiment with accuracy, feeding, and such. I also have a good supply of Federal 100 (small pistol primers), and Federal 200 (small magnum pistol primers). On hand, I have Power Pistol, Bullseye, Unique, and Blue Dot that should be acceptable in a .40 S&W. I have about 500 empties in the tumbler now. Sorry for the long winded start, but I wanted to try to avoid the obvious concerns involved with handloading. My question is, are there any concerns I should be aware of when loading .40 S&W, and more specifically, for the G23? I have a good supply of factory SD cartridges (Federal HST & Win Ranger), so these will be for "field" use (varmints, mostly). Thanks in advance for any replies. Daryl


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It has become almost a truism that Evelyn Waugh's comic masterpiece Scoop is not so much a pastiche of the foreign correspondent's trade as a deadly accurate textbook of how newspapers - and especially popular ones with eccentric proprietors - work. But the thing about truisms is that they are quite often true.
My introduction to the globe-trotting business in the late 1950s (we were often bylined as "Expressman on the Spot") had a lot in common with that of Waugh's wimpish hero, Boot of the Beast. I had just arrived in New York as resident correspondent when the foreign desk cabled me to "proceed fastest" to Caracas, and thence to the Orinoco delta. There I was to join the Venezuelan military in a search for a British-manned balloon, which had reportedly come down in the swampy jungle.
Now, the thing about this balloon was that it was a publicity stunt by the Express's deadly rival, the Daily Mail. So my instructions were to find it before the Mail did, thus scooping it on its own scoop. There was no time to pack, so I set off with a toothbrush in the top pocket of my suit.
In those pre-jumbo-jet days, proceeding fastest was in fact a pretty slow process, but I eventually got to Caracas, switched planes, and fetched up in the steamy delta in time to learn that the reported landing of the balloon had been a Daily Mail hoax to send me on my wild goose chase. Humiliated, I trailed miserably back to Caracas.
But I was in luck. I read reports of a major battle taking place in Cuba which promised to topple dictator Fulgencio Batista. I landed up in Havana just in time to cover the victory of Fidel Castro, one of the seminal stories of the second half of the 20th century. But even then, Evelyn Waugh wasn't far away: the only other British reporter there was the Mailman who had set up the balloon hoax. Honours even, I thought.
Plenty more Scoopish episodes were to follow. There was the time I was sent to Honduras to cover a revolution that wasn't happening. I cabled London saying: "Just heard pin drop Tegucigalpawise." I later learned they meant to send me to British Honduras, but got mixed up. They were not best pleased.
Or the time I was marooned in Panama with no story. To draw attention to my plight, I cabled: "Weather here lovely, no news today (signed) Boot." Alas, no one on the Express foreign desk seems to have read Scoop, or they would have recognised this as a straight quote from the book. So they spent several fruitless hours trying to find a stringer on their books called Boot. They weren't best pleased then, either.
Not that it was all like this. There were plenty of real stories, including the horrific Algerian war. But I deeply admire the modern generation of globe-trotters, and especially the women. These youngsters willingly penetrate the most appalling places, even northern Afghanistan, and then chat to Sue MacGregor as if they were in the car park of Sainsburys.
I am not saying my generation of correspondents were less brave. Far from it. The list of reporters killed in places such as Korea and Vietnam is terrifyingly long. But there is something admirable about the matter-of-factness of journalists sitting in hotel rooms in, say, Baghdad, and counting the cruise missiles whizzing past the windows.
They have, however, one huge advantage over those of us who performed 30 or 40 years ago - satellite telephone. In my day, the hardest part of the job wasn't necessarily getting there, or even covering the event, but simply getting your copy out. You could be the most intrepid reporter ever, but if you missed the edition you were useless.
At least one reporter I knew paddled a canoe across the Congo river, crocodiles and all, in his desperation to reach a cablehead. During the Soviet invasion of Hungary, journalists in Austria drove to and from Budapest on a daily basis. But nowadays you twiddle a few knobs and lo! you are on to the copytakers in London.
What's more, these devices not only get you past the crocodiles, they get you past the secret police. Not the least of the hazards in Algeria was dictating copy with sinister voices chipping in to remind you they were listening. These days, the people you are writing about don't hear what you have written, they read it later on the internet. Which may, of course, be still more dangerous. I salute my successors.
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Senior Baseball: Silver Pirates win marathon game at State Tournament
In the State Senior Men's Amateur Baseball Tournament, held each year in the Jordan, Belle Plaine area, there are four classes: AA, A, B, and C. Teams are bracketed into AA and A with the winners of the opening round game going into eight team, brackets of AA and the losers of the opening round game going into eight team, brackets of A. The same is true of the B and C part of the tournament. This year, the Perham Silver Pirates are competing in the AA and A portion of the tournament.
In Saturday's opening round, the Silver Pirates lost a 6-5 nail biter to Eden Prairie.
The game started with Perham lead off hitter, Tony Stoll, driving a ball to right center for a potential, double but the oppositions center fielder, made a neat throw to second base and caught Stoll sliding in for the first out. Jim Nelson did score later in the inning to give Perham a 1-0 lead.
Eden Prairie scored two in the second for a brief lead, but Perham came back with two more runs in the third and led 3-2 until Eden Prairie had their shot at the plate in the bottom of the inning. Eden Prairie scored one to tie it in the third and two more in the fourth to take a 5-3 lead into the seventh.
Jon Kotaska and Ray Sailer both singled to start the Pirate seventh. Gary Lackey followed up with an RBI single and Greg Schmid singled to plate Sailer to tie the game at 5-5.
The Pirates out their first round opponents, 12-8, but Eden Prairie put together a double, a walk and single in the bottom of the seventh to pick up a 6-5 victory.
Greg Schmid threw five innings of six hit, ball before handing it over to Gary Lackey who threw the last two frames. Lackey walked two, struck out two and gave up the lone run in the seventh.
Steve Sheets continued his hot fielding for the team with a nice running catch in center and added a triple to his efforts to lead off the fourth. Stoll and Kotaska and Dan Miller each had a pair of hits to lead the Silver Pirates in that area and all but one Pirate hit safely in the contest!
Perham wins marathon
The loss sent the Silver Pirates into Class A competition on Sunday to face Northwest League foe Menahga-Sebeka, in the quarterfinals.
The game was scheduled to begin at 6 p.m. in Veseli, which would have gotten the Perham players home between 12:30-1:00 a.m. Monday morning (if they were lucky)! Little did the participants realize they would still be on the diamond after midnight in a marathon game!
Menahga-Sebeka took the initial lead in the top of the third inning with a pair of runs.
Jim Nelson got things started for Perham in the fourth with a single and a stolen base. Gary Lackey singled home Nelson, but was stranded on third to end the inning. In the sixth, Jason McClellan led off with a single and promptly stole second before Kotaska delivered an RBI double to tie the game, 2-2.
Little did anyone know at the time, that the game would remain 2-2 for the next 16 innings. Both teams had numerous opportunities to score between the sixth and 23rd inning, but good play by both teams kept the game going.
Perham actually came closer to winning on more occasions than the Relics, but Sheets made the 'catch of the decade' to keep Menahga-Sebeka from walking away with the win in the top of the 10th. With two out and a man on first, the Relics shortstop drove a shot to deep center field. Sheets turned and sprinted for the fence (if you've seen Willie Mays famous "back to the infield catch", you can picture Sheets heading for the fence) and finally laid out, towards the fence for a spectacular diving catch to end the inning.
Fast forward to the top of the 23rd inning, John Lilliquist , the pitcher and second baseman for the Relics, led off the with a home run to right center which put the Relics ahead 3-2 after 16 scoreless innings.
Down a run and with two outs in the bottom of the 23rd, Sheets singled to get the Pirates going. Greg Schmid followed with a single to put runners on first and second. Larry Mollins doubled down the left field line to chase Sheets home with the tieing run.
McClellan came to bat with Schmid on third and two out. With a count of 2-2 on McClellan, the Relics pitcher was set to throw and for some reason, stepped back off the mound - McClellan yelled "balk" and he was right on the money! Schmid trotted home with the game-winning run.
The amazing story about this game is the pitching. Menahga-Sebeka used three pitchers, but the Silver Pirates used just one. Kotaska pitched the entire 23 innings and he was just as strong in the 23rd as he was in the first!
"As long as they were unable to get any thing going why not stay on the hill," Kotaska said.
He finished the night with an amazing 27 strikeouts while scattering 15 hits and walking six batters. Perham picked up 12 free passes in addition to their 12 hits.
Silver Pirate catcher Nelson also deserves some solid credit as he was behind the plate all 23 innings and threw out four runners attempting to steal second!
Perham will now take on St. Louis Park at 5 p.m. Saturday in Union Hill. Should they win, they will play for a State title on Sunday. A loss and they would play for third Sunday afternoon.
Kotaska sets a pair of State records
Jon Kotaska's performance at the Minnesota Senior Men's Amateur Baseball State Tournament last weekend bested a pair of state records.
Kotaska pitched a 23-inning complete game for Perham against Menahga-Sebeka where he struck out 27 batters in a 4-3 win.
The most strikeouts in a Minnesota Amateur Baseball Association State Tournament game is 21. Longest state tournament game was 20 innings.
In Major League history, only four pitchers in have pitched more innings in a single game (2 in the AL; 2 in the NL) not being done since 1920.


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|September 23, 2011, 10:49 PM
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Speed Strips? More Like Slow Strips- Help
Hello all,
After a long stint with autos, I've recently gone back to carrying a j-frame (637) along with 2 speed strips. In my old days of carrying a revolver I used speed loaders and would only carry one because of the bulk. I switched to speed strips because it's easy to carry 2 so I get an extra 5 rounds. All thats great except I'm terrible with the speed strips.
I practice reloading every night but with little improvement. I still fumble around with them, bumping the cylinder and not lining the rounds up right. I'm carrying them in my left back pocket (I'm a south paw) and I find that they are easily accessible there. When loading I also use a scallop hold and rip them off away from my body. I also use a 6 round strip so I have some extra room to work with.
I feel like I'm doing it right but it's still not working.
I know practice makes perfect but is there any advice any one can offer? Maybe a little trick or perhaps something I'm doing wrong?
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|September 23, 2011, 11:14 PM
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Are you loading one round at a time or two? Most speed strips you can do 2 at once, so load the J-Frame 2,2,1. I don't usually carry a reload for my J-frame and if I carry a real revo I use God's own invention, moonclips. I hate speedloaders.
|September 23, 2011, 11:42 PM
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I am using two at a time. Moon clips seem like they would be fast but then there is the issue of bulk.
|September 23, 2011, 11:59 PM
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IMO, carry one quick reload and the rest in strips, use a camera bag to store them, you can get like 20 rounds in those bags(4 strip clips)
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|September 24, 2011, 02:23 AM
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Speed strips are handy, just not very fast. Just do as you are doing and practice ripping 2 at a time off the strip while reloading. It can get speedier, but not speedy.
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|September 24, 2011, 07:50 AM
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You state that you are LEFT handed and keep the strips in your LEFT REAR pocket. Describe what you're doing with each hand during the unload/reload cycle beginning with the last shot fired.
As a right handed person I have my strips in my right front pocket but the gun transitions to my left hand once the cylinder is unlatched and while the left thumb is ejecting the empties the right hand is bringing the speed strip to meet up with the gun directly in front of my body and the left fingers rotate the cylinder to accept 2 rounds, turn, 2 rounds, turn, 1 round and then the strip is dropped as the cylinder is closed and the gun brought back to target.
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|September 24, 2011, 08:25 AM
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speed strip bumps
Speed strips require the use of fine motor skills, the first to fail under fire. Also, during revolver days, I don't know of any police departments that authorized them for duty use. Generally, a left handed shooter should transfer the revolver to his right hand, then clear brass and reload the same as a right handed shooter. In so doing, remember to turn the cylinder with the fingers of your left hand so that the chambers being charged are always furthest away from the frame.
While you may carry semi-wadcutters in your revolver, ammo for reloading should be of the JHP variety as they slip more easily into the chambers and are not as likely to hang up
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|September 24, 2011, 09:03 AM
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For me speed strips merely kept the ammo organized, vs loose rounds in my pocket. If I were truly concerned about a gunfight I'd carry an auto.
Wait. I do carry an auto!
|September 24, 2011, 09:41 AM
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Might as well carry a speed loader.
And if you're going to carry a speed loader, might as well carry a second airweight J frame and be done with it. Give it up and just be a genuine oldphart...
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|September 24, 2011, 09:52 AM
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With my S&W Model 10 Revolver....I use the Speed Loader.
Load 6 bullets all at once - can't be any quicker.....HELLO!
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|September 24, 2011, 10:33 AM
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Practice makes perfect. If you want to carry speed strips... Then perfect your technique. I also carry speed strips as extra ammo when carrying a revolver. Been carrying them for more years than I can remember. While they will probably never be as fast a moonies, or speed loaders... they are a lot easier to carry, and lend to carrying more of them.
As far as losing fine motor skills under fire... that has not been my experience. I believe that practice with the speed strips will give a person the muscle memory for a smooth, and quick reload under fire.
Having practiced for years doing a combat re-load with a revolver it has become second nature. I'd say practice until you can do it blindfolded. Then continue practicing every time you go to the range with your carry gun.
I do have a question though... Why are so many people in such a hurry to run out of ammo?
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|September 24, 2011, 10:55 AM
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Great question
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|September 24, 2011, 11:58 AM
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I carry a j-frame exclusively. That is because I dont expect to be in a situation where a j-frame wouldnt be enough. Snubbies are a deep concealment handgun. They are not meant for use in an extended battle with more than a couple (or three) targets at any given moment.
So, exactly how fast do you REALLY need...or expect...to reload your j-frame with a speed strip?
I think speed strips are a good compromise between concealability and speed. They serve a simple purpose. Speed strips are better than carrying extra cartridges loose in your pocket and they happen to be far more concealable than speed loaders. That is really the goal here, isnt it? I have only needed to be proficient with speed strips to consistently reload smoothly. Nothing more, nothing less.
Like the old adage goes: slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
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|September 24, 2011, 12:28 PM
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For a much faster reload...
... a second J-frame is hard to beat.
|September 24, 2011, 12:33 PM
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This may help...
A speed strip is never going to be "fast". I carry two all the time and practice at the range. I'll never compare to a mag change on one of my autos.
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|September 24, 2011, 09:05 PM
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Gun goes dry, I open the cylinder, move the gun to my right hand, eject spents, reach in my back pocket and retrieve strip, fumble with the reload.
That would be ideal except I don't think I could stand the extra weight.
I don't expect to be super fast but rather smooth. I guess my title was mis-worded.
If I slow it down to where I'm not fumbling I might as well not reload at all. In all honesty I believe that the 5 shots is plenty, but for some reason I feel compelled to carry the strips lately. All the classes, books and internet discussions must planned a idea seed in my brain that's starting to bloom.
|September 24, 2011, 09:18 PM
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My solution has been to carry a S&W 3913 in a 'cross-draw' camera bag. When the J-Frame is empty I throw it and reach across, unzip the bag and draw the 3913. I find it a lot faster than fumbling with a speed strip.
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|September 24, 2011, 09:19 PM
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Speed strips will never be as fast as speed loaders but they are a lot easier to carry and conceal. The choice is yours but I prefer the ease of carry of the speed strips. With practice, you can get fairly profecient with speed stips.
|September 24, 2011, 09:28 PM
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I don't alway carry a revolver...but when I do, I carry an N-frame.
I only carry revolvers in the winter time...and then, concealing speed loaders are not a problem. I own speed strips for my .41 Mag and .45 LC, just because they make them. But I have never carried the Speed Strips (yet).
When I carried a j-frame 5-6 years ago, I used to watch TV while I practiced reloading with either speedloaders or speed strips. The idea was to do it while not looking at what I was doing...as I imagined that if I were ever in a gunfight and someone was shooting at me, my eyes would be on him or something other than what my hands were doing.
So I practiced doing it (basically) blindfolded. Did it every night until I got reasonably good at it, and then once a week or so thereafter.
|September 24, 2011, 11:13 PM
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That's a great idea, I'll have to try the blindfold method.
Well you guys helped figure out what I'm doing wrong. Instead of holding the cylinder all the way out during reloads, I've been trying to keep it partially open... Here's what I mean.
The way I was doing it before..
The new method..
The cylinder is more stable and easier to line up with the rounds. I think this might be the answer to my problems. Thanks for all the advice.
I feel kinda dumb for not figuring this out a while ago. With the cylinder all the way out it's harder to manipulate and keep steady. Oh well, thats what practice is for.
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Maybe you should consider something like this:
For me, speed strips are only speedier than trying to load from a jumble of rounds loose in my pocket.
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I'm guessing that holster is worn small of back? I don't know if I could comfortably carry one revolver back there, let alone two. Very cool rig though!
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Speed Strips are a whole lot smoother than loose rounds in your pocket or a dump pouch. And a whole lot easier to carry than Speedloaders.
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Fourteen years after Samara first crawled out of the well, people are still answering the phone when she calls.
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That was the collective, slow-mo, soul-crushing scream of Homeland fans last night, as we wretched in utter fear and disbelief when it was revealed that Carrie (Claire Danes) was [Major Spoiler Alert]…
This fact was confirmed by the 87 pregnancy tests she apparently has been stashing away as proof of how totally pregnant—and how totally gross she is. (Use a trash can!)
Not only are we worried about what a baby might do to this award-winning show (and it had just turned around for everyone!), but we are concerned about the sweet little one's well-being.
Here are the five reasons why we really hope all those pregnancy tests were wrong:
1. THE DRUGS: We live in a country where pregnant women are burned at the stake if they so much as smell a Starbucks latte (the caffeine!), or a piece of bacon (the nitrates!), and so perhaps we're just being neurotic here, but what will all those psych meds Carrie has been taking do to her unborn baby? We know Carrie was locked up in a mental institution, being forced to take Lithium, which according to Drugs.com (and we know we shouldn't be getting medical advice off the Internet, but still), can cause congenital birth defects. According to Web MD (again, we're not doctors here), certain bipolar medications can cause serious health problems for the baby, as can stopping medications suddenly or taking them irregularly. Which all adds up to a big ball of us being deeply concerned.
2. CARRIE: Look, we totally believe that people who suffer from a mental illness can be fully functioning members of society and excellent parents. But when said parent is a double agent working simultaneously for the CIA and a dangerous terrorist organization who would slit her throat if they discovered her subterfuge? We can't help but envision sniper rifle lasers aiming at her little one's head. Is there some kind of Child Protective Service hotline for not-yet-born TV characters? If so, someone, quick, dial it.
3. THE BABY DADDY: Two options here. If it's A) Brody (Damien Lewis), that means that Carrie is at least several months pregnant already (which the multiple pregnancy tests would seem to imply), and she'll have a scandal on her hands that Olivia Pope couldn't even handle. Can you imagine any plausible Homeland storyline under which Brody and Carrie run off together to raise a baby? We can too, and it's called immediate cancellation and/or shark jumpery on a level that puts Happy Days' Fonzie to shame. And if it's B) the random guy from the convenience store, then just…Ew. Also, what purpose would that serve the show, if Carrie's pregnancy is the product of a nearly forgotten moment with a completely unfamiliar character?
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Agriculture is the focus of much contention in free trade negotiations. The Japanese government is against liberalizing the rice trade on the grounds that it would threaten "national food security" in the events of such shocks as crop failure, war, and embargo. Trade liberalization is expected to make Japan more dependent upon food imports and to make the Japanese economy more susceptible to these risks. Using a stochastic computable general equilibrium model, we conducted Monte Carlo simulations to quantify impact of rice productivity shocks and export quotas by major rice exporters to Japan and found little chance for trade liberalization for Japan to suffer from such shocks.
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I park it here almost everytime. From where the lie is, the tree just in front of the pin is 22' . The pin after the tree is 4'. Cant do anything crazy...the small hill just behind the pin is actually a large drop off to the Chippewa river "Chippewa Banks Course, Midland MI... Hole 4". Most off the time I just pitch down under the basket so I dont smack the tree infront of it.
My question to anyone here is... what would you do in this situation?
FH, turbo or spike putt.
Room for an anny flick?
Steep anny putt with an anode. If it doesn't clank off the basket, should be parked under for the three.
throw it up high nose down, hope to drop it in.
When I get frisky, I try to do real lofty putts "with slight anny for elevator effect" and let them sit immediately after the tree. Ive never got chains but have sat on top off the basket before.
I would probably do an an anny shot. I am rhbh. I would put my left heel to the back of the marker, which would let me stretch out more to the left to get a better view of the target. The question is, what are you throwing and how are you throwing it to land in the same spot? I would try and get it to fade more if possible so you have an easier shot at the basket. Maybe take a different line. I obviously don't know the hole, so thats just my take on it.
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The report analyzed data from 2008 and 2009 about suicidal thoughts and behaviors among non-institutionalized adults ages 18 and older collected through the mental-health section of a survey conducted through the National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH).
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Noon powers England to Calcutta Cup glory
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Jamie Noon scored a hat-trick of tries as England beat Scotland to win the Calcutta Cup at Twickenham. England ran in seven tries in total as they finished a frustrating RBS 6 Nations campaign with a flourish.
England opened a 26-3 lead as Noon scored two well-worked tries, Joe Worsley powered over in the corner and Josh Lewsey exploited a break from Mark Cueto.
But Scotland, as they did last week against Wales, staged a spirited fightback and scored either side of the interval through winger Sean Lamont and centre Andy Craig.
Harry Ellis dived over for his first Test try to halt Scotland´s charge but then fed Simon Taylor who ran 40-yards untouched to keep the visitors in touch.
But Noon´s third and a deserved score for Cueto secured England´s victory.
England against Scotland is the oldest rugby fixture on the rugby calendar, dating back to 1871 but today it seemed little more than a sideshow.
Kick-off came 45 minutes after Cardiff erupted into one almighty party as Wales won the Grand Slam with victory over Ireland.
At Twickenham, England and Scotland met for the 122nd time.
The best either side could finish in the championship was fourth.
That did not halt any of the pre-match hype.
Andy Robinson declared Scotland would arrive in London fuelled by their hatred of England.
Robinson himself admitted he had learned the biggest lesson possible during England´s narrow defeats to Wales, France and Ireland - win first, style second.
But England started with a dash of invention.
A crunching tackle from Josh Lewsey on Rory Lamont helped England win the ball in the Scotland 22.
Iain Balshaw was halted just short as he took a dart for the line when there was perhaps an overlap to be exploited outside.
Chris Paterson then calmly took a Hodgson up and under, skipped around Lewis Moody and embarked on a searing break into the England half.
But he was on his own and the momentum was lost as he through a blind pass to the floor.
Williams last weekend admitted Scotland could learn a great deal from Wales´ support play. Clearly, the lesson had not hit home.
Hodgson let Scotland off the hook with a wayward first attempt at goal but with 13 minutes on the clock the Sale fly-half carved the opening for England to score the first try.
Ben Kay won the ball at the lineout, Hodgson floated through a giant gap in the Scotland defence between Ross and Rory Lamont before providing the scoring pass to Jamie Noon for his second Test try.
Kay was injured as he landed in the lineout and was replaced immediately after Hodgson had converted the try by Steve Borthwick.
Paterson then missed a quick opportunity to reduce the arrears after Balshaw had been penalised for hands in the ruck.
Scotland´s poor tackling was as much to blame for their first half demolition last weekend as Wales´ brilliance and again their soft defence proved costly.
After Paterson had succeeded with his second attempt to get Scotland on the board, England piled forward from the restart and Noon escaped the clutches of Hogg and Ross to break the line.
The Newcastle centre evaded Blair´s diving tackle and barged Paterson aside on his way to the line and touched down under the posts to leave Hodgson a simple conversion.
Scotland had barely had the chance to reorganise when Mark Cueto held off the attentions of Sean Lamont down the right long enough to feed Joe Worsley with the ball a yard from the try-line. Despite Hines´ best efforts, the England blindside touched down.
In the meantime, Scotland prop Tom Smith had been replaced by Bruce Douglas and after half an hour England lost Balshaw, who was stretchered from the field with a leg injury.
England threatened to cut loose and while their execution was still a little rusty, Lewsey, now at fullback, was on hand to finish off the fourth try after Cueto had exploited more space in the Scotland defence.
Scotland hit back just before the interval after Hugo Southwell had split the England defence and handed on to his centre partner Andy Craig who turned it back inside for Sean Lamont to touch down.
England´s injury toll rose further at the interval when Moody was replaced by Andy Hazell after injuring his leg as he flew in to collect a 22 drop out at the end of the first half.
Scotland scored again within five minutes of the restart with an 80-metre move sparked by Paterson´s counter-attack.
The Scotland full-back skipped around Martin Corry, stepped past Ellis and then chipped over Lewsey. Blair scooped up the bouncing ball, fed Paterson again who sent Craig over for the score.
Paterson converted and Scotland had closed the gap to nine points.
England halted the Scotland charge with a well-worked fifth try as Ollie Smith, on for Balshaw, slipped a wonderful pass out the back of his hand to Ellis who beat Jason White´s tackle and dived over for his first Test try.
But Ellis´ fine finish was cancelled out immediately after he fed a pass straight at Scotland´s Taylor, who ran over untouched from 40 metres out.
Paterson missed the conversion and only a crunching cover tackle from Lewsey enied Scotland another try after Rory Lamont had brushed through attempted tackles from Steve Thompson and Smith down the right wing.
Matt Dawson was introduced for Ellis and made an immediate impact, sparking England´s attack into life once more.
After Dawson´s slipped pass to Hodgson had worked the opening, Noon was on hand to dive over in the left corner to seal his hat-trick.
And Cueto, so instrumental in creating two of England´s first-half scores, then touched down for a deserved try after Barkley´s break through the middle.
England: 43 Try: Noon (3), Worsley, Smith, Ellis, Cueto Con: Hodgson (4)
Scotland: 22 Try: S Lamont, Craig, Taylor Con: Paterson (2) Pen: Paterson
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