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Wednesday, 21 February, 2001, 11:50 GMT
Are we a nation of fatties?
The number of people who are obese has tripled over the last 20 years and is still rising.
If the trend continues, more than one in four adults will be obese by 2010, dramatically increasing the incidence of diseases like high blood pressure, diabetes or coronary heart disease.
Experts blame a combination of a less active lifestyle and changes to eating patterns for the trend that is more dramatic in England than in most other European countries.
Are we a nation of lazy couch potatoes? Do we eat too much or the wrong kind of food? How much exercise do you get every day?
This debate is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below.
Your reaction
Di Stewart, USA
There has been a lot of mention of over-eating and under-exercise, but relatively little of alcohol. I'm sure many people will tell you from personal experience that increased drinking - even just a "social" amount - can cause your weight to spiral, not only because of the calories contained in alcohol itself, but because of the effect of empty calories actually making you feel hungrier.
And the last thing you want to do with your weekends is go down the gym when you're suffering from a hangover.
Life is getting really easy. We are well fed and don't need to fight and struggle to survive like our forefathers had to do. These days kids are waited on hand and foot, given ample pocket money and food is never a scare commodity.
Why don't UK employers do what many do here in Sweden? Get your employees a gym card and offer them one hour of paid "work out" every week? I'm sure this would encourage many to get out of the office early on a Friday evening and would benefit the employer through a healthy and more productive work force.
"Americanisation" I think does not mean that Americans are responsible for our eating habits. It means that our society is taking on more US-American habits: a record number of hours spent on the computer or behind the telly, availability of cheap and fancy convenience foods, increasing reliance on cars. Show me a drive-through national park or a drive-through bank in Europe anyone!So people who say that are saying that we become Americanised are not blaming Americans, they are merely observing that they themselves have been taking on US-American values, essentially the worship of possession, consumption, convenience and comfort.
Lance Taylor, UK
I cycle and I feel as if I am the only one bothered to use the new cyclepaths. People may say they have no time, but they should make time. Parents don't help by taking their kids to McDonalds and letting them sit and watch TV. It would be nice to actually see parents take their kids out for a walk. On a Sunday there is no excuse. Many parents give in to what the child wants to eat. Fruit should be a pleasure and not a bore.
Rob, UK
People have got fatter. I'm often astounded at the rubbish I see people piling into their trollies at the supermarket. I don't subscribe to the argument that healthy eating is difficult. The causes are obvious; greed and laziness.
To those blaming getting fat on the "Americanisation" of your country - it is beyond pathetic. Are you saying that you have no will of your own and are just waiting to be told what to eat next by us fat Americans?
Obesity is a major public health problem. We should consider making the entrances to supermarkets and restaurants much narrower.
John, UK
It is very sad that at the start of the new millenium people in the western world are getting fatter and there are still people dying of starvation. We all protray ourselves as being generous, intelligent and caring but in reality we're greedy, ignorant and vain.
The trouble is that the British lifestyle - especially in the under 35's - is so unhealthy. I have many foreign friends who are amazed at how much we, as a nation, drink. We need to get away from the 'ten pints and a bag of chips on a saturday night' mentality.
Basically the problem people have nowadays is that because they have to work such long hours and weekends they don't have time to cook nutritional meals. If you want to eat before eight o'clock at night you have to grab the nearest convenience food and thrust it quickly into the microwave. As for exercise when are we supposed to get this? By the time you have eaten your dinner, one it is too late and two you are so tired that you collapse in a heap or drag yourself to the computer to do more work. Whilst there you feel so cheated out of life that you resort to snacking just so that you have some sort of enjoyment in this never ending treadmill.
Why has all of this come about? Never mind obesity, which is surely a sign that the vast majority of people are over-worked and stressed, what about family life? Surely the Government should be looking at the fact of why are all of these people this way. Personally I see that it is due to being given continuous extra work at no extra pay and house prices, and petrol etc rising so much that both partners now have to work so hard just to survive, often neglecting the essential elements of life, their health and family!
Looking at the streets of England around 8:15am, it's no wonder that exercise is a strange and unknown thing here. Not even the kids have to walk to school anymore, but are being chauffeured everywhere! I do understand the parent's concerns, but why not try and find a healthier way of getting them to school safely and make exercise part of their daily routine at a young age? And why do they have to get crisps every day? Take the time and give them good and nutritious food!
D.H.Kelly, UK
Having been living in the US for one year now, I can see where the UK is headed.
People drive everywhere, take elevators rather than the stairs even going down, have motorised everything (even adjusting your car seat has been deemed to much of an effort, that's motorised too) and then buy treadmills and gym memberships.
Of course we are or are becoming a nation of fatties, just walk down any high street in Britain and look at some of the obese people about. People moaning on about not having enough time to exercise and eat properly are really poor excuses. The adage "you are what you eat" has more meaning now than ever. Its really no surprise go into any supermarket and there are about 200 varieties of simple bread!
Yes we are fat and the cause is the insidious Americanisation of the country as is happening now in China with fat children seen there for the first time in the wake of American-style eating. It is time we woke up and started to behave like Europeans.
I think the blame goes to the service stations, the corner shops or newsagents. This is because whenever I fell hungry, there are no healthy options of food like bananas, apples, etc.
The shops are just full of chocolate bars and high calorie sandwiches.
Should the shops not change what they sell?
So Kenneth believes England's increasing obesity problems are down to "Americanisation" does he? Funny, I can't recall any Americans coming over to England asking us not bother walking down the road but to drive instead or to not bother taking any exercise at all. Perhaps Kenneth is looking for an excuse to blame anybody but his own country for it's increasing ills.
I lost weight when I became a vegan.
Fat vegans are extremely rare.
Isn't Neil Pearce lucky to be so perfect! Let's follow his argument to it's logical conclusion and fit everybody at birth with "consumption" meters so that all human activity, even including breathing, can be taxed.
What constitutes a healthy lifestyle? I run four times a week, on average for half an hour each time. Among some of my less active peers, this level of exercise is considered to be an obsession. Really? Two hours of strenuous activity a week is hardly a propensity in comparison to the many hours spent typing at a PC, or keeping up with that soap on television. Massive re-education about the virtues of healthy eating backed up with regular exercise is required to steer this sloth like nation into shape. Ignorance is surely a blot on our landscape, but to be fair, fresh fruit and vegetables can be hard to come by - they are either expensive, or too inconvenient to consume.
I strongly believe that the main cause of obesity is our reliance on the car.
I know people who would rather drive a few hundred yards - walking and cycling would not even be considered. If people were encouraged to take a trip of less than one mile by foot, or less than three by bike, then we would have fitter folk in a cleaner environment (it is short journeys with cold engines that are the most polluting).
Cycle if you can - there are plenty of routes with no buses or few lorries (you can buy special cycle route maps for London) or walk two bus stops or tube stops worth. People who do this rediscover the pleasure and exhilaration of ordinary exercise that doesn't leave you feeling as though all you're capable of afterwards is crawling into bed.
We're being mislead by both the medical and supermarket industry into thinking that 'low-fat food' is good, instead we eat tons more carbohydrates to make up the deficit. There is now lots of evidence to show that even if you don't overeat, this will not only make you put on weight but also increase your blood pressure, cholesterol and chance of diabetes. The medical and food industry simply find it too unpleasant to contemplate a u-turn on their previous advice, and people are too addicted to a junk food lifestyle to want to change.
I am sure that at least 70% of all obesity is down to psychology (i.e compensating problems by comfort eating) and not because people like to eat. Other people start drink or take drugs, but that is not as obvious as overeating. Nowadays even anorexia is a problem of the society, but if you are overweight it's your own problem and support is marginal. It is a big step to face your "disorder" and try to solve it yourself, but it is certainly worth it! In the end everybody is responsible for their own well-being.
It's pretty simple, eat less and exercise more. There is no magic formula, no special diet. Eat more fruit, vegetables, pulses, grains, fibre etc and less fatty processed food! I used to be three stones heavier than I am now and I lost my weight through exercise and eating well. The problem is that we are all far too lazy. I felt terrible when fat and although I am not "slender" by any means, I am toned, fit and well and have never felt better. Some come on, stop all of the moaning and "under-active thyroid" excuses and do something about it!
I'm sure it's something to do with the food. It's over processed and full of sugar and starch. The body has to eat more of this junk in order to get the real nutrients it needs.
In the 50's we used to eat vast amounts. A big breakfast, lunch, tea and dinner. And hardly anyone weighed more than 170 lbs. Mind you we got around by either walking or riding a bike!
Lee, Burnley, England
It's just that junk food tastes too good. Get the GM manufacturers to make a salad that tastes like a Mars bar or deep fried chicken, and we'd be fine.
Take regular daily exercise and don't constantly make a pig of yourself. Is it really that complicated? You feel better and are better able to deal with a busy lifestyle. Yours faithfully, 6ft tall, 12st and over 65 hours work per week of London.
I would like to say to Neil Pearce, England that I am outraged by his comments. If 'fat' people have to pay more tax because of increased healthcare costs - then so should people who smoke, who drink too much, who don't eat 5 portions of fruit and veg a day etc. It isn't just 'fat' people who have heart attacks. I have 'thin' friends who have a much less healthy diet and lifestyle than me and are every bit as much at risk.
Paul Richards, England
I work full-time as well as being a part-time post-grad student. My partner is a full-time post-grad student and we have 2 kids, yet we still have the time to cook a decent meal at night. Although I am a bit overweight (and only a bit - honest!!) we are generally healthy, the kids are well looked after and the house is not a tip.
And no we do not have a phenomenal income (quite the opposite - less than the 'national average').
It is possible, it just takes a bit of work - and the occasional piece of broken crockery!
Hey Kenneth...America didn't make you eat those chips and crisps. Start taking responsibility for your own problem instead of blaming us.
I think we get used to a certain level of obesity and perceive it as normal: Elena from Estonia noticed a difference when she first arrived in the UK; and yet Brits come back gobsmacked from a trip to the USA!
I'm lucky to have a fast (but very expensive!) metabolism. If I didn't I'd be fat because I can't afford the healthiest food, nor can I afford a gym membership, and I have to spend 8 hours a day at a desk. Perhaps obesity is a symptom of relative poverty in a prosperous country?
John, UK
Quite frankly I am not surprised. People are simply greedy with their approach to food. I am in no doubt that the vast majority of the nation could improve their health by simply eating less and working out more.
How can we begin to educate our children to do more exercise and eat a healthier diet when parents remove their children from schools in protest over a no-snacks policy. We live in the Nintendo age when shopping is the most popular past-time. Until we regain a higher interest in more physical pursuits we shall never remove this problem from our society.
Trying to lose weight is not easy, whilst we are bombarded with media images of slim = beautiful. However we must ultimately take responsibility for our own actions. If we overeat, we get fat - it's that simple. It's easy for Terri G to go for bland statements like 'it's the individual's choice' etc, etc - but they will also impact society at a later date when their lack of self-control costs the NHS time and money treating diseases that a healthy lifestyle would avoid.
It's very straightforward - Eat less and exercise more. A bit of mental discipline has never harmed anyone.
I have, throughout my life, been underweight, and was constantly teased during my days at school, which left me severely depressed. Maybe if we didn't put so much emphasis on one's physical appearance, I might have had a happier childhood, and a lot of today's youngsters would not have to go through what I and undoubtedly many others have already been through!
Philip Levy, UK
It's just another Americanisation of our country.
We're fat for two reasons - modern convenience food and an increasingly sedentary lifestyle. We consume far more calories than people did 20 or 30 years ago and we spend all of our time sitting or lying down. I lie in bed for 8 hours. Then I get up and sit in a car on my way to work, where I then sit in front of a computer screen for 8 hours.
Modern convenience foods are a nutritional disaster. Take service stations as an example. Have you ever looked at those sandwiches they sell? A simple chicken sandwich contains as many calories and as many grams of fat as a king-size Mars bar! Why? Because they drown them all in mayonnaise.
It's quite simple. If you're fat you should pay more tax
to meet the costs of increased healthcare
C. Hathaway, UK
I believe that, on average, we eat less calories than we did in the 1950s but that seems odd because in those days a bag of crisps and a glass of lemonade were rare treats and today young people seem permanently attached to items of junk food. But of course we have far less active lifestyles. Kids sit in front of TVs and PCs instead of playing outside and look at the way - for example - the energy that drivers and engineers of the old steam trains used up compared to a modern train driver.
Yes, I agree you have a problem here. I remember the first time when I came here it was the first thing that I noticed on London streets and travelling by Tube.
Tony, UK
Isn't it up to the individual to decide what weight they wish to be? We are all responsible adults. The more pressure people put on us to be of a "normal" weight, more eating disorders will occur as a result.
I admit to being pretty overweight - though hopefully not quite obese. It's all self-inflicted drinking too much, eating too much and not exercising enough. I know that if I eat more sensibly and exercise more I will lose weight. I just can't seem to motivate myself enough to do it.
John B, UK
We eat too much of the wrong food because it is the cheapest option and given that most people go for the cheaper option in the supermarket the less healthy cheaper alternative is purchased. It also allows for the excuse, "well I can't afford healthy options when doing the weekly shopping". Supermarkets should be asked why they charge higher prices for low fat versions of their standard products.
I have been at both ends of the spectrum from being obese to anorexic in less than two years. Now I am at a healthy weight, although I do find it particularly worrying that the majority of my female friends have suffered from an eating disorder in their teens. We as a nation have an unhealthy attitude to food and an unhealthy attitude to our physical appearance. We all need to be re-educated to look after ourselves and the Government should definitely return Home Economics to the school curriculum so that when children leave school and go into the workforce or university they are able to look after themselves in a healthy fashion.
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the Soviet demand was not unreasonable and keeping it a secret probably had as much to do with the realization that the Air Force's recalcitrance had brought on a crisis that needn't have been, as the desire not to appear to give in to the Soviets.
So what's this got to do with Vietnam and Iraq and why has Senator John Kerry change his position? Could it be because he's since discovered that the reason the American interest in Vietnam was never clearly defined was because, then and now, the real reason is finding a permanent home in the Indian Ocean region for our nuclear missiles and bombs–bases from which it would be easy to launch our WMD, with little chance that they could be intercepted before they hit their intended target?
The goal, after all, is to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here at home, as George W. Bush has said over and over, and John Kerry has not bothered to refute? Because he couldn't. After all, he's been voting for the Pentagon budgets that contained the planning money for this project all along.
If you think this scenario is far fetched, ask yourself why the Pentagon construction budget for Iraq this year is double what was spent in the previous four. What is it that we're building in northern Iraq to which our friends the Kurds object?
Kennedy ordered the Jupiter missiles removed because in his judgement, as a former Navy man, he concurred with the assessment that the carrier fleet and submarines were a more reliable delivery system. No doubt, the Navy would argue the same today. But the Air Force is obviously not satisfied with the huge complex that was secretly constructed at al Udeid in Kuwait. Or perhaps, like South Korea, Japan and the Philippines, Kuwait has refused to host our nuclear missiles and bombs.
And then there's Europe. A study just released by the Natural Resources Defense Council is sure to generate a discussion of how much longer our nuclear weapons will be welcome there.
The United States' closest ally, Britain, currently plays host to 110
tactical nuclear missiles at the Lakenheath airbase in Suffolk, the
home of American F-15 fighter planes in the UK. This figure itself
is three times as high as previously thought. Elsewhere around
Europe, the US has 90 bombs deployed at Incirlik in south-eastern
Turkey, 90 in Italy and 20 each in Belgium and the Netherlands,
according to the NRDC.
No doubt, after Vietnam was ruled off limits, a secular Iraq ruled by a friendly dictator seemed a likely candidate for U.S. bases, but Saddam Hussein had ideas of his own and, eventually, the price for his co-operation got too high. So, the decision was made to take him out and prepare the ground for the U.S. to be welcomed with open arms.
Though it hasn't quite worked out as expected, the bases are abuilding and a "partial withdrawal" will leave enough troops to man the missiles and satellite tracking stations, as well as permanent maintenance and fuelling facilities for our stealth fleet. And nobody's talking about nukes because we all know Iraq is "clean."


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The Financial Case For a Transitional Care Unit
A transitional care unit can be more lucrative than a hospital-based skilled nursing facility (HBSNF). Over the years, few things in the delivery of healthcare services have been so obfuscated by uncertain health policy, regulation, and reimbursement as have Medicare-certified hospital-based skilled nursing facilities. Hospitals that sought to operate units, mandated by Congress as an entitled benefit of the nation's elders, have been frustrated in their mission and denied the opportunity to serve the common health by:
- a) Schizophrenic shifts in reimbursement as Medicare experimented with alternative ways to price SNF services in a hospital setting (cost-based, routine cost limits, swing beds, impact of DRG incentives, new provider status; now resource utilization groups per diem rates).
- b) Contradictions between Medicare and Medicaid policies as 50 states dueled with Uncle Sam to shift hospital costs (the prudent buyer policy; incremental cost accounting; mandated Medicaid vs. Medicare census ratios; Medicare/Medicaid difference toward allocated hospital overhead).
- c) Fundamental policy shifts including deregulation of the hospital industry.
- d) The undue influence of nursing home lobbyists opposed to competition from hospital-based units were able to delay or stymie changes in state regulations which preclude development of HBSNFs.
These factors combined to create a very dynamic, unstable environment for those who would operate an HBSNF. They affected who could be served, at what price, the financial impact upon the hospital, and people's perception of HBSNFs. Depending upon who was asked, the HBSNF was seen as an essential element in the continuum of care; unfair competition for the nursing home industry; a way to maximize Medicare reimbursement; a way to fill empty beds; or a way to get paid for extended stay convalescing elder patients. At various times and places, it has probably been all of these.
The roller coaster ride became high speed from 1988 to 1998, as some states deregulated their hospital industries and financial incentives of the fixed rate DRG system to reduce length of hospital stays (to 4.0 to 4.4 days/stay), began to be felt by hospitals, encouraging many to consider HBSNFs. Nationwide during that time frame, the number of hospital-based units increased from about 800 to 2,165 and, not coincidentally, the length of the average Medicare stay dropped from 9.0 days/stay to 6.2 days/stay as hospitals could more easily transfer patients upstairs. Meanwhile, area nursing homes saw the new units as competition and developed more and better sub-acute units further expediting the discharge planning process.
But it is not history that is the focus here, except to establish the ambiguity that has plagued the development use of hospital-based units. A few years ago, we seemed to have reached a point where all the logic supported an expansion of hospital-based SNFs, but where we once had several hundred hospitals lining up to do so. Today, we now find few.
Passage of the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 and the shift from the more lucrative cost-based reimbursement (even with routine cost limits) to site-neutral RUGs III rates, seems to have reversed the growth cycle. However, while many hospitals saw the shift to the all-inclusive per diem as a disincentive to the operation of a HBSNF and closed their units, many still remain, begging the question: what is the financial impact of a hospital-based SNF in today's operating environment? Why did some hospitals close and others remain open, when the results of hospital-based units clearly indicates a declining average length of hospital stays?
MedPAC seems to have provided the insight to that answer. In its assessment of why hospitals closed HBSNFs, MedPAC staff identified three generic HBSNF programs in its Report to the Congress in June 2007.
- 1) "The long term care models: predominantly long-stay population in which the first several days after a hospital stay are Medicare-eligible (care rendered in long-term care bed, not in a distinct unit, many such programs in New York and Minnesota and smaller hospitals nationwide).
- 2) The (sub-acute) rehabilitation model: Traditional HBSNF patients who require . therapy, such as hips and knees. (some complex sub-acute, when therapy is a secondary need).
- 3) The complex medical model: ... sometimes referred to as Transitional Care Units . a slightly lower nursing intensity than general m/s units . shortens the (hospital) inpatient stay . substituting SNF days for inpatient hospital days . Hospital benefits because they receive the same inpatient (DRG) payment . and they receive a separate SNF payment that they would not have received had the patient remained in the hospital bed."
Since each program focuses upon a different type of patient, the financial impact of reduced RUGs rates varied. None of the rates cover allocated overhead; thus, direct costs are primary determinant of profitability. The TCU program model has the highest nurse staffing and is able to accept transfers most expeditiously, lowering LOS, thus providing unique advantages.
In contrast, for years, the most popular HBSNF has been the Sub-acute Rehab Model (with a few complex m/s patients). This allowed hospitals to 'cherry pick' patients, although most could be served in a nursing home. While profitable under the old Medicare rates, under RUGs, these units can be less profitable, and do not yield the financial benefit of a TCU.
At issue is how much expense should be offset against the new revenue stream. Since a hospital can readily discharge, for example, the patient with a broken hip, to a nursing home, the decision transfer the patient to its own HBSNF is also a decision to incur the incremental cost (e.g., $345 for nurses, food, etc. and $80 for costs unique to a Medicare SNF NH Admin, PT, Med. Records, etc., or $425/day). (Note: All dollar amounts are intended to illustrate the point; each hospital is different).
The financial impact of the Sub-Rehab HBSNF is a simple calculation. Subtract the direct expense voluntarily incurred ($425/day) from the RUGs revenue (e.g., $450/day), which, in this example, yields a modest profit of $25/day. MedPAC staff learned that many hospitals (with a Traditional HBSNF), either lost money or concluded that there were more useful ways to use the space and closed the unit.
With a TCU patient, the financial impact is different. The hospital cannot discharge the patient and the expense is going to be incurred whether in an m/s bed or the TCU bed. This yields the basic rule of operating a TCU - serve only those patients (days) who, otherwise, would occupy an m/s bed.
Thus, when a patient (who cannot be sent to a nursing home) is transferred from an acute bed to a TCU bed, the attendant expense must be transferred with him or her. The financial impact of the TCU is the revenue received (e.g., $450/day), plus the savings due to reduced LOS (the $345 for nurses, food, ancillaries, etc.), minus expense unique to the unit ($80/day) and serve the patient ($345/day). The $345 savings offsets the TCU service cost, leaving a contribution of $370 ($450 minus $80).
Conversely, if a hospital were to discharge a patient to a local nursing home, under this model, the hospital would save $425. In fact, the TCU will generate both savings (due to expedited discharges) and increased revenue through its TCU.
The hospitals that closed HBSNFs had made the decision to diversify, incurring additional expense, for additional patient days. When the revenue dropped, so too did the profit. Conversely, a TCU serves only those patients who cannot (or will not) be sent to a nursing home. For the hospital, that often higher cost is offset by the RUGs revenue and the savings on the acute side.
Simply stated - because it is staffed and administered appropriately, the TCU enables the hospital to get paid for what it now gives away - (i.e., excess days which cause the hospital's Medicare length of stay to exceed the 4.4 days/stay, presumed by the DRG rates). Moreover, (as has been shown nationwide and in key states), the availability of the TCU to a hospital serves as a catalyst to nursing homes to set up more and better sub-acute units. So given all the changes in operating environment of an HBSNF, what a hospital CEO (with a sense of history) may believe the hospital-based TCU to be may not be the case. It can be a very profitable program, if it is used to serve only those patients who, otherwise, would occupy an m/s bed.
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LOS ANGELES (CBS) — The man suspected in the beating of a San Francisco Giants fan outside Dodger Stadium on opening day was ordered Monday to spend 10 months in prison for violating his parole.
KNX 1070's Jon Baird Reports
Giovanni Ramirez, 31, appeared with his lawyers at a closed-door hearing before parole commissioners at the Men's Central Jail in downtown Los Angeles. He has not been charged with the beating of Bryan Stow, but has remained jailed since his May 22 arrest for allegedly violating his parole.
Police officials believe Ramirez was one of the men who assaulted Stow following the Dodgers' opening-day victory over the Giants on March 31.
According to defense attorney J. Christopher Smith, a commissioner found "no probable cause" to hold Ramirez for the Stow assault allegation, but determined there were grounds to keep him on ice in an unrelated matter.
Ramirez was allegedly in possession of a gun and ammunition at the time of his arrest in the Stow investigation, and the commissioner determined he probably violated his parole conditions, according to media reports.
Stow, a 42-year-old paramedic from Northern California, remains hospitalized with brain damage in San Francisco.
Witnesses to the assault told police the main attacker was bald, but defense attorneys say Ramirez had a full head of hair at the time.
LAPD Chief Charlie Beck remains confident police arrested the right man in connection with the Stow beating.
Police were continuing to hunt for two more suspects — another man who took part in the actual beating and a female getaway driver.
Ramirez, who police say is a documented member of the Varrio Nuevo Estrada street gang, has at least three prior felony convictions. According to police, he was convicted of attempted robbery in 1998, robbery in 1999, and firing a weapon in a public place in 2005, the L.A. Times reported.
Ramirez's attorneys insist their client was not at Dodger Stadium on opening day, but was babysitting his 10-year-old daughter that day.
The girl met with LAPD investigators and reportedly told detectives that her father was never out of her sight for more than 20 minutes.
The girl's mother added that Ramirez was not a sports fan and was unlikely to have gone to Dodger Stadium.
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Trainer David Ferraris admits finding a 'chink in the armour' of Australian superstar Sepoy is nearly impossible, but says he has Bear Hero glowing ahead of the colt's hit-and-run mission in tomorrow's Coolmore Stakes (1,200m) at Flemington.
Bear Hero - last season's champion griffin - has travelled Down Under for a one-off Group One assignment, but he has drawn a contest with one of the best young Australian sprinters in recent memory.
Sepoy has only been defeated once in 10 starts. After a juvenile season capped by winning the world's richest race for two-year-olds, the Golden Slipper, Sepoy has since gone undefeated in four starts as a three-year-old.
Australian oddsmakers certainly don't think the Darley-owned speedster will be beaten for a second time, installing him as short as $1.20 to win the stallion-making race for three-year-olds, with Bear Hero firming to $14 yesterday.
After watching his horse complete his final serious gallop at Weribee, Ferraris said he 'couldn't be happier'.
'He worked 28 [seconds] and 26 over the 800m and he did it easy with his head on his chest,' the trainer said.
Brett Prebble has been drawn to ride bear Hero and his experience on the tricky Flemington 1,200m course, dubbed the 'straight six', will be critical. 'No one knows it better than Brett,' said Ferraris, who also pointed out his horse in unbeaten up the Sha Tin straight, albeit over 1,000m.
'He loves to get tucked in behind something up the straight,' the South African said.
'When you pull him out he produces a tremendous turn of foot. So that's what I'm hoping happens Saturday.'
'He can be let stride, but he is infinitely better when you tuck him behind something.'
Regardless of the outcome, Ferraris said the trip Down Under had helped mature Bear Hero, who will return on the same flight as the John Moore-trained pair Mighty High and Silver Grecian next Tuesday.
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Also spelled "caserne", this word was stolen lock stock and barrel from German, where it simply means barracks. Since "barracks" is one of those English words where what looks like a plural is actually singular, Americans quickly seized on "kaserne" to describe the military bases in and near German cities that held one or more battalions of troops. In addition to the barracks where the troops slept, a kaserne would also usually have a PX, some recreation facilities such as a theater, bowling alley, clubs for enlisted men and officers, motorpools, maintenance facilities, and an open field for exercises.
The kaserne I am most familiar with, Gerszewski Barracks in Karlsruhe, had all of these things and a clothing sales store besides. It was also home to a pair of combat engineer battalions, a combat equipment company that maintained equipment for REFORGER units, a dispensary for minor medical problems, and a couple of mess halls. Even though the 331st had a mess section of its own, we ate our meals at the 249th Engineer Battalion's mess hall where our cooks (well, whichever one hadn't been exiled to Mount Meissner) worked. Nobody pulled KP at Gerszewski; that kind of work was done by Turkish civilians.
Kasernes were not always located with public transit in mind, and many soldiers didn't bother jumping through all the hoops involved in acquiring and operating a car in West Germany. For this reason, there was usually a military shuttle bus that ran between the several kasernes that made up a "military community". This was part of the reason in-processing and out-processing could take up to two weeks: it was all too easy to spend a day wandering around on the shuttle bus between offices in different kasernes, to say nothing of sitting in those offices along with a dozen other people.
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It was Wednesday, under the sign of Gemini. The US president was Ronald Reagan (Republican).
Famous people born on this day include Abdulkadir Kocak and Jānis Karlivāns.
In that special week of June people in US were listening to Ebony And Ivory by Paul McCartney.
In UK Goody Two Shoes by Adam Ant was in the top 5 hits.
Poltergeist, directed by Tobe Hooper, was one of the most viewed movies released in 1982
while The One Tree by Stephen R. Donaldson was one of the best selling books.
On TV people were watching The Mysterious Cities of Gold.
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I don't like my 18 year old:(
I want to...she was always the BEST kid, happy, sweet, funny...she started being a bit "goth" in her teens, she went through what appeared to be an extended awkward stage, but I didn't care...she was still the wonderful daughter I knew, if she wanted to wear black baggie clothes and explore with her style and personality a bit, I felt it was okay. Then she turned 17, now she's not quite so "goth" just sloppy, won't brush her hair, or clean her room- okay I think, she's testing I get it. I felt her pulling away and I did all the wrong things. I first tried getting her to talk to me, when she wouldn't I yelled, I snooped, I did anything I could to find out what was going on in her life. I suspect she's somewhat promiscuous but to what extent I can't tell. I love her, and I have not idea what is happening with her, and nothing I say will get her to open that damn mouth of her and let the truth out. That's the other thing, she lies, almost constantly, about everything no matter how big or small, and she's not good at it, so you know she's lying, but when you call her on it, she just sticks to her lie, no matter how ridiculous or obviously untruthful it may be...whY???
Finally, she won't take regular showers, brush her teeth or wear decent clothes! I try to tell her gently "Honey, please, take a long shower and do your hair" but she won't, her hair is tangled, her teeth are unbrushed, she just flops out of bed, six minutes before she has to leave and throws herself together- she generally looks sloppy, and a bit dirty, she won't even shave her legs on a regular basis! This isn't my daughter- I'm crying now, I can't stand to talk about it, she's not the girl I raised, the girl I knew, she's a completely different person, and I don't like her, and I feel like the worst mom in the world, I don't know where it all went so wrong, I can sense she's on the wrong path but I can't define it or quite put my finger on it, she's never going to be honest with me, her personality is abrasive and if not abrasive simply annoying because you know almost every word out of her mouth is a lie. I did find out she's not using drugs which is what i feared, she got drug tested at work and there were no problems.
She's 18, she thinks she knows everything, nothing I say is even briefly considered by her...I dread seeing her now, because I know either I have to ignore all of the problems or fight with her, I cry every day for her, my other children just resent her because she ignores them or causes upset in the house. Can anyone help?? ANyone ever go through this? Is this just normal 18 year old stuff???
my sister was the definition of a bad teen lied , did drugs, slept around an she was the same way , didnt care just rolled out of bed an went
lay down the law tell her if she is going to act this way she needs to get out, its hard love but it sounds like she need to hit bottom
It sounds like she struggles with depression. I would seek out a therapist or a psychiatrist for help.
Are you also the mom of my dd? Mine was so much like this. She's 21 now. She looked sp grungy. Her room was alsp nasy. It looked like those tv shows where they would come in and redo everything. She wasn't outwardly doing anything. I kept looking for something to explain everything. She was so nasty but had a boyfriend here and there. I used to wonder how any boy could stand her. Then when she turned 19 she ran away just after i paid her college tuition for her third semester. I got a txt 2 days later saying mom I'm fine, don't worry, i got married.
this sounds like something my mom and brother went threw. she will grow out of it.
my brother just turned 25 and hes finally doing great a job a wonderful girl friend a child and a place of his own. he handles money much better (and he was into HEAVY drugs) Don't give up yet it will pass. It's just takes time. she may have to hit rock bottem to find her way back. but when she does All you can do is BE THERE for her/ amd she will come to you. she does love you and care shes just not showing you the way you want her right now. Just do not DISOWN her.... . I really hope for the best luck for you and her.
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She doesn't sound depressed .. In my thoughts, she sounds Lost, Shes looking for something to be hers she searching out her friends trying to see whos a true friend and whos not) and personality she is trying to be her own person an individual, It sounds like she is trying to show that she can do things by her self with no help... I don't think she needs to go to the doctors at all I think she just needs her mom there for when she falls.
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I agree with this. Tell her you love her no matter what, but if she doesn't abide by the rules of your house, she has to move out. I would add that one of the rules is to see a therapist. Giver her a deadline and move all of her stuff out to the curb if she isn't out by that date. I'd give her a couple of months espeically if she doesn't have a job.
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seince shes 18 shes an adult and if she wants to do what ever she wants you can tell her she has 3 options, move out and get her own place, pay rent and buy her own food n clothing, or follow your rules.
There is a limit on stuff I personally think something happened to her. Either that or she has lost all motivation, it happens I did at that age.
I was a mother's worst nightmare when I was a teen. I was raised in a very religious home and my mom would find me smoking in my bedroom or doing lines of coke. I was promiscuous and lied and yelled at my mother everytime she came near me. (I suffered a lot of abuse at the hands of my father so it's no doubt I was depressed) I stayed out all night for weeks sometimes, never seeing my parents, never telling them where I went. I usually slept through my school days or when I went to school I would leave at lunch and not go back. My parents didn't know what to do with me and quite frankly just gave up. One day I came back with a huge skull and wings tattoo across my back. Finally when I was 17 I ran off with a 23 year old and was determined to make it on my own and prove everyone wrong.
6 years later I am still with that guy, I went to school to become a preschool teacher, and am pregnant with my first, planned child. We live in a cute little house and I take care of everyone who comes my way.
Sometimes a swift kick in the pants is all a child needs. See how the world is when you have to provide for yourself. Worked for me.
Is she already preg? I went through this as a teen, but I was on drugs and I did get preg, and I was very depressed. The good news is that now I'm 26 with two kids, and a husband, in my own house and get along with my family. My mom and dad kicked me out of the house and kept my son. It took me two years but I grew up, got help, and became a good person. THERE IS ALWAYS HOPE. I'm sorry your going threw this, I hope you can figure it out and help her. Good luck.


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Or in the case of this year, before they know if there will be games this fall. Hundreds of thousands of people okay, tens of thousands of people and a lot of corporations have put their money down already for next season.
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Te he bajado la luna
Para que no vivas a oscuras
He vaciado de espuma el mar, pero no lo vesHe cambiado de corazón
Para acompañar tus latidos
He traído el río hasta tu puerta
Mi mundo se dio vuelta no lo vesTanto he dado que lastima
Mi vida he dejado en manos de tu vida
Que quieres de mi, que esperas de mi
Si todo te diCuanto cuesta tu alegría
Si al pie de la letra compro lo que pidas
Yo vivo a tus pies, y tu no lo ves
Y sigues asíQue quieres de mi, que quieres de miHe perdido la dignidad
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Me han herido cuando quise defenderte
Por ti peleo a muerte no lo vesTanto he dado que lastima
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Si al pie de la letra compro lo que pidas
Yo vivo a tus pies, y tu no lo ves
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Fonsi and his family moved to Orlando, Florida, during Fonsi's early childhood. Fonsi's childhood was relatively average for kids his age, beginning to dream about becoming a member of Menudo, arguably Latin America's most famous boy band in history, around the time he was ten years old.
Because of the air distance between his home in Orlando and Menudo's base back in Puerto Rico in particular, Fonsi was not able to achieve that particular childhood dream. He did, however, participate in many local boy bands, including one, Big Guys, where he met, and befriended, future *NSYNC member Joey Fatone. On April of that year, Fonsi had a brief return to the singing stage, when former Menudo Ray Reyes invited him and Lopez to a concert which was held at San Juan's Roberto Clemente coliseum. The press widely covered what El Vocero titled as Fonsi's moment as a Menudo, when he took the stage and joined the members of El Reencuentro to sing some of their old hits.
Fonsi's popularity has transcended ages and genres in Puerto Rico: industrialist Salvador Vassallo, for example, has told El Vocero that Fonsi is among his favorite singers.
Instead of choosing to keep a pattern of trying to find stardom in the United States with a boy band, Fonsi chose to better prepare himself for a future, stable career inside show business. He went to Florida State University to study vocal techniques. Meanwhile, he began to record demo tapes in Miami. While he was at FSU, he was overheard singing by a university music department president, who offered him a contract with a large recording company.
In 1999, Fonsi recorded his first CD, Comenzare (I Will Begin). Comenzare became an instant hit in Puerto Rico and across Latin America, with Fonsi conquering such markets as Colombia, the Dominican Republic,El Salvador, Mexico and Venezuela. His 2000 follow-up, Eterno, was equally successful. By then, Fonsi's fame had reached Europe, as he became a celebrity in Spain as well.
During 2001, a re-mix of Comenzare and Eterno was launched, while Fonsi worked on his next album, 2002's Amor Secreto. At about the same time, some media outlets such as newspapers and magazines began to comment about an allegued, adulterous romance between him and an also very famous married Puerto Rican singer, who had just happened to separate from her husband recently and bought a home near Fonsi's Orlando property. The scandal did not last too long, however, and Fonsi soon released an album in English, Fight the Feeling, also released in 2002.
Fight the Feeling did not sell well among Americans. It is expected, however, that Fonsi will sometime in the future make a second attempt at a crossover: because of the fact he has lived most of his life in Orlando, he is fluent in English as well as in Spanish.
His Fourth CD sold very well which opened new markets in Europe. "Quien te Dijo eso?" reached high positions on music charts. His fifth CD "Paso a Paso" could be said to be his disc that launched him into international markets. "Nada es Para Siempre" reached Number one on the music chart beating famous, Shakira.
By 2003, Fonsi began to fall in love with actress Adamari Lopez, who, as an Univision artist and fellow Puerto Rican, constantly found herself near Fonsi. That same year, Fonsi released the song Abrazar la Vida (Holding on to Life), of the album also named Abrazar la Vida. The song, perhaps ironically and because of a particular circumstance, would later become one of Lopez's favorite songs. While Fight the Feeling was released by the MCA label, Abrazar la Vida was released by Universal's Spanish music label. Fonsi also recorded Amazing in 2003, a duet with Emma Bunton for her 2004 album Free Me.
Fonsi took off 2004, a year when rumors were reported by magazines, television news shows and newspapers that he and Lopez had committed to marry each other. During 2005, Fonsi was in the middle of an international tour that would have had him away from home for many months; the tour was abruptly cancelled when Lopez was diagnosed with cancer. Fonsi promised her to stay by her side, and has travelled with her back and forth between Mexico, Miami and Puerto Rico for various treatment and work related trips.
On June 3, 2006, Fonsi and Adamari Lopez were married in a religious ceremony in Guaynabo, Puerto Rico attended by many celebrities including Joey Fatone, Charytin, Ednita Nazario, and Carlos Ponce and his brother, aspiring Spanish-language singer Jean Rodriguez, who goes simply by Jean as his professional name. Read more on Last.fm. User-contributed text is available under the Creative Commons By-SA License; additional terms may apply.


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As Cedar Shoals' new athletic director, he's bothered by the fact that the school has been placed in a sub-region with Eastside, Heritage, Rockdale County and Salem, which historically bring few fans to football games.
Small gate receipts and increased distance to regional athletic destinations translate to less money.
"As an AD, I'm looking at it from a monetary standpoint. It hurts us. It affects us the most," Edmonds said. "We'll get some guaranteed crossover games, and we'll always have the Clarke (Central) game, which is a good gate, but those schools (in the sub-region) have not brought very good crowds."
Region 8-AAAA, which will jump from 10 to 13 teams beginning in 2006, will be subdivided into two sub-regions, with Clarke Central in the North and Cedar Shoals in the South side, according to the realignments released by the Georgia High School Association on Thursday.
Clarke Central's sub-region includes Winder-Barrow, Habersham Central, Jackson County, Loganville, Madison County and Dacula, formerly of Class AAAAA.
Cedar Shoals' side also will include Alcovy, a new Newton County school.
Winder-Barrow athletic director Jeff Beggs wasn't surprised that his school will rejoin the region after spending last year and 2005-06 in Region 8-AAA. Winder-Barrow also belonged to Class AAAA in 1998-2000 and from 2002-03.
"It turned out the way I thought it would," he said. "For us, we've bounced up and down so many times. The biggest thing for Winder-Barrow is we need to get somewhere and stay awhile. We've lost the feeling of rivalries and a sense of home. We need to find a home."
Edmonds just hopes fans will come to Cedar Shoals' home games. With only four sub-region football games until Alcovy fields a varsity program, he said he'll be able to schedule strong crossover games against other region teams.
"The other side of the region has teams that bring tremendous crowds," Edmonds said, referring to Winder-Barrow, Madison County and Loganville. "It is a surprise, but I guess somebody had to go east and somebody had to go west."
There will be no appeal, he said.
"We'll deal with the deck we have," Edmonds said. "We'll go forward, be successful and be competitive. That's not going to change."
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Oconee County will remain in 8-AAA. The school was mistakenly classified as a Class AAA school by the GHSA in the previous realignment, and was allowed to stay in 8-AAA for 2004-06.
Washington-Wilkes will joined a revamped Region 8-AA in 2006 after spending two years in Class A. Buford, which has ruled the region for the last three years, will be in 6-AA.
The new 8-AA will include two sub-regions (A and B), split geographically.
Washington-Wilkes will join Morgan County, Greene County, North Oconee, Oglethorpe County and Putnam County in one sub-region. Those schools were members of 7-AA. The other side will include schools from the Augusta area.
Region 8-A hasn't changed.
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What part of doomed don't they understand? That's what Bill Hughes, Temecula's public works director, now calls future traffic projections for Highway 79 South. He also recently claimed that traffic circulation on Pechanga Parkway will eventually fail.
But that's not what he stated in 2001 during the Wolf Creek planning process.
City traffic studies indicated that Highway 79 South and Pechanga Parkway would operate at acceptable levels of service, even when figuring regional cumulative traffic impacts, as well as utilizing three times the projected traffic increases the Pechanga Casino expansion planned to generate.
Last year, city officials approved the Temecula Lane multifamily-housing project just off Pechanga Parkway, so that the project would include an affordable housing component. Good idea, wrong location.
Residents of southern Temecula are paying the price for inaccurate traffic projections and poor planning. The problem is it's going to get much, much worse.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's proposed balanced budget relies on revenues from some new and untested sources. He is counting on more than $500 million in revenue from Indian gaming compacts that are currently pending in the Legislature.
These compacts would erase the limitations on slot machines approved by voters in 1999 and 2000. The approval would allow the Pechanga Resort & Casino to add 5,500 more slot machines to their current 2,000, nearly quadrupling the number of slot machines. Unlike other Indian casinos located near freeways, Pechanga patrons must travel three miles along surface streets to reach the casino.
Anybody who has waited in casino gridlock, especially on the weekend, can verify the "doomed" scenario.
The Temecula general plan charges the City Council to preserve residential neighborhoods: "Temecula is composed largely of single-family residential neighborhoods. These neighborhoods are the building blocks upon which the quality of life enjoyed by all Temecula residents is based. Preserving the desirable characteristics of quiet, calm, safe, family-oriented neighborhoods is a high priority for the City."
Southern Temecula neighborhoods are no longer quiet, calm or safe. Traffic roars down a deteriorated Pechanga Parkway. Inconsiderate drivers and traffic accidents have become commonplace. Sirens wail throughout the day and night.
Twelve-foot-high sound walls don't stop the noise. Drunken drivers are common. Theft and vandalism have significantly increased. God forbid we have to evacuate because the two creeks that border our community flood, there is a dam failure at Vail Lake or there is an earthquake along the Elsinore Fault through southern Temecula.
To be fair, the Pechanga Indians have participated in efforts to minimize their traffic impacts. Petitioning the Bureau of Indian Affairs to provide some of the funding for the Pechanga Parkway Bridge, contributing $4.4 million to the Pechanga Parkway widening project and paying into the state Indian gaming fund.
However, it's hard to imagine how the tribe could possibly mitigate the impacts from a tripling (or more) of traffic.
I strongly urge the Temecula City Council to officially register its opposition to the pending Indian gaming compacts. Our quality of life depends on it.
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Cidu Bill on Apr 23rd 2014
Yes, now even she's sending me e-mail. With photos!
Photos of a broken chimney, granted, but you can imagine how this could get very awkward…
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Cidu Bill on Apr 23rd 2014
Yes, now even she's sending me e-mail. With photos!
Photos of a broken chimney, granted, but you can imagine how this could get very awkward…
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Cidu Bill on Dec 13th 2013
My wife just started receiving confirmation for purchases made to her Kindle account.
She doesn't have a Kindle account.
Not charged to our credit card, by the way, I checked. But apparently a different Robin Bickel convinced herself that r—-email@example.com was her email address.
Meaning of course that my wife could hijack her account at will.
Do I have to tell you how much I hope this woman is married to Idiot Bill? And, you know, that they never reproduce?
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Cidu Bill on Oct 20th 2013
Twenty-three people sent me this one Thursday and Friday. Twenty-three people. I think the previous record for any single comic was ten.
Metatext: "I asked a few friends whether they'd had this happen, then looked up the popularity of their initials/names over time. Based on those numbers, it looks like there must be at least 750,000 people in the US alone who think 'Sure, that's probably my email address' on a regular basis."
Some people went back to a related March 25 post and commented there; so instead of making this a new post, I just brought up and re-named the older one.
Idiot Bill Bickel's Daughter Has a Dentist Appointment Tomorrow
Guess how I know.
I swear, I could own this guy's identity in six months if I made half an effort to.
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Cidu Bill on Feb 19th 2013
Yup, somebody attached it to an e-mail to Idiot Bill Bickel, at the address he gives out.
I've long since accepted the fact that IBB is a complete moron: what startles me now is that when I inform his clients that they've sent me their personal information because they're working with a man to whom the concept of e-mail is far too complex, they are apparently unconcerned.
I really have to assume there's a community in Seattle entirely populated by immigrants from Chelm.
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Cidu Bill on Jan 23rd 2013
Joined LinkedIn, using my e-mail address. Got a message today from a "fellow real estate agent" who wants to connect with "me."
Okay, gonna change his password now….
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Cidu Bill on Aug 28th 2012
"Oh, sorry," he wrote me last week, finally responding to one of my messages telling him he was giving out my email address as his. "I'll let everybody know my correct address"
Yesterday, one of his clients e-mailed me expressing concern that he couldn't reach Bill by phone. I wrote back that he'd probably given him somebody else's phone number. Because he's an idiot.
And this afternoon Bill sent a client some sensitive financial information, cc'ing… me.
I wrote back to him asking him — rhetorically — how stupid he was, that he's still unable to use e-mail properly. And cc'ed the client.
No more Mister Nice Bill.
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Cidu Bill on Jul 19th 2012
Idiot Bill send a client an e-mail — cc'ing me, as usual — concluding with "If you have any questions, Heather, please let me know." I e-mailed Heather, cc'ing Idiot Bill "I have a question, Heather: why does 'your' Bill Bickel have such problems remembering what his e-mail address is?"
And that actually got me a response from Idiot Bill: an apology and a promise to correct the problem (though no acknowledgement that this had been going on for half a year)
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Cidu Bill on Jul 12th 2012
Seattle's Bill Bickel (whom I used to think was just a home buyer but I now know to be a real estate agent; because at this point I know more about the man than Google does) just took out a Craigslist ad, offering his services. Using, of course, my e-mail address.
I informed him that if anybody contacts me through the ad, I'll tell them he went out of business.
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Cidu Bill on May 8th 2012
I just got my first bank statement for the Bill Bickel who gave his bank my e-mail address. More precisely it's a link to his account information, and I need a password to log in. But if I "forgot" the password, they'll be happy to re-send it to me at the e-mail address they have on record. which is of course mine.
So I now have complete access to his bank account if I want it.
Seriously, it is kind of scary how so much of our personal security can depend on something like typing in an e-mail address correctly.
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Cidu Bill on Apr 12th 2012
Update: Just received a general contractor's detailed proposal for the work he's planning to do on Home Buyer Bill's new home. This seems like a pretty important document for both of them.
Screw 'em. Home Buyer Bill never acknowledged either of the e-mails I sent him, let alone thanked me for forwarding all his stuff to him. It's not my job to enable his irresponsibility.
Got a LinkedIn request this morning from somebody I never heard of. Checked his address, and realized he'd meant to send the invitation to Home Buyer Bill.
I'm tempted.
Seriously, what a great identity theft opportunity I have here: with a little bit of effort, I can steal Home Buyer Bill's social and professional contacts, Credit Card Bill's, financial history… and I can probably get at least a month's worth of Netflix Bill's movies delivered to my home before anybody begins to wonder. I can be the Ultimate Hybrid Bill Bickel.
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Cidu Bill on Apr 4th 2012
Update: How big a friggin' idiot is Home Buyer Bill anyway? I already reminded him once that my e-mail address isn't his, so I thought at the very least he wouldn't be giving it out to anybody new. So today he sends somebody some sensitive information and cc's
himself me.
I've mentioned this before: I've been getting some other Bill Bickel's Netflix mail for the past few years, because he apparently gave them my Yahoo address instead of his own. I even called Netflix at one point — which was time consuming and not very easy, because they don't have a protocol for one person to talk to them about another person's account. I finally convinced them to stop sending me his messages, but they started up again after a month or so. Presumably they contacted him somehow and asked him for his correct e-mail address, and he gave them mine yet again.
And honestly, if I were him, I wouldn't be too eager for somebody else to know some of the movies he rented.
A few month ago, at my Gmail address, I started getting information intended for a Bill Bickel who was buying a house. Including photos, and copies of floor plans, loan information, and the contract.
And then there's the William Bickel whose mailings regarding his Capital One account have been coming to my Yahoo mailbox. This was never a big deal… until this morning, when they sent "him" confirmation that he'd signed up for paperless statements. In other words, he'll never see his bills.
Now I have to decide how much time and effort to put into making this right. I'm not sure what I can do until the first statement arrives and I see his account number, though.
My wife's convinced this is the same guy over and over again. True, it means he'd have had to mistakenly give people both my Yahoo and Gmail addresses — but that's still more likely than having 3 people with my name who don't know their own e-mail addresses: "Think about it, how many idiot Bill Bickels can there be?"
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The mayor's plan mirrors a similar measure criticized by Democratic lawmakers in Sacramento that calls for California to freeze pension benefits for current state and local government workers.
KNX 1070's Bill Cooper reports Villaraigosa also wants the city's fire and police pension board to reject a proposed 7 percent increase in retiree benefits.
Stuart Drown, executive director of the Little Hoover Commission, told a legislative hearing Wednesday that California's public pension systems face soaring liabilities as baby boomers retire and live longer.
The commission, which made its recommendations for reform in a report last week, said obligations to retirees will become unsustainable in the future.
Democrats control both legislative houses and generally support public employee unions. They say the commission's proposal to cut existing workers' benefits faces such legal hurdles that it likely is not worth pursuing.
Democratic Sen. Alex Padilla of Los Angeles chided commissioners for presenting a solution that "raises legal and constitutional red flags."
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