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EDMONTON -- Most winters, it has been easy for Oilers fans to ignore the noisy Maple Leafs supporters who show up at Rexall Place when Toronto is in town.
Tonight, it might not so simple.
Unlike the past, when high-flying editions of the Oilers often would skate circles around the Leafs, the home team is the one on the bottom looking up.
With seven consecutive losses, first-year Oilers coach Pat Quinn never had it so bad with the Leafs as his current team is taking up permanent residence in the Western Conference basement.
As tempting as the prospects of an easy win might be, however, the Leafs seem to recognize that any lapse could easily erase the good feelings of Sunday's 4-3 win over the Pittsburgh Penguins, one of the team's best efforts of the season.
"When you are struggling like that, you work harder," Leafs defenceman Francois Beauchemin said of the Oilers. "Sometimes it's harder to play a team that has lost 10 in a row than a team that has won seven in a row.
"They will be desperate to get a win."
The Leafs know the feeling all too well as they still reside on the fringes of the Eastern Conference playoff race, despite a December that could yield a ninth win with a successful effort tonight. The team will reach the midway point of their season, striving to reach 39 points, one more than following the 41st game a year ago.
But recognizing that his lineup is an ongoing work in progress that must continue to improve if it is to be a serious contender for a playoff spot, Leafs coach Ron Wilson has been juggling his lines.
Most notably, centre Mikhail Grabovski has fallen to the fourth unit between muckers Colton Orr and Jamal Mayers.
Wayne Primeau, meanwhile, is on the de facto second line with Jason Blake and Lee Stempniak, a trio that produced two big goals against the Penguins.
"We're trying to avoid turnovers in the neutral zone and (Grabovski) has been making too many," Wilson said following a lengthy practice yesterday at Rexall Place. "The only way I can eradicate 'turnover-itus' is to take away ice time until you actually figure it out."
The Leafs could use some production from the top unit as Matt Stajan, Phil Kessel and Nikolai Kulemin have been held in check recently. Kessel has gone six games without a point, the longest streak since 2006-07, his rookie season.
"Every goal-scorer in this league has times when he doesn't score for stretches of games," Wilson said. "Nobody's getting (Phil) the puck much, either. You need people on your line to carry some of the burden sometimes.
"It will come, I'm not worried about that."
Whether it's Gretzky and Messier or the far less renowned current edition of Oilers, the atmosphere always is lively here when the Leafs are the visitors. Tonight's contest then, should be a nice cap on a big day for Canadian hockey following the announcement of the Olympic roster at noon.
"We know it's going to be a great atmosphere," Stajan said. "It's fun playing in Canadian games, especially in a building like this where the best player played the game and there are always a lot of our fans."
The Oilers roster may be a shadow of what it was in those glory days Stajan alluded to and the franchise seems to be in a heap of trouble. But if the Leafs were anticipating an easy ride tonight, they need only to recall their own tough start to the season.
"They are in the same boat (as we were)," Leafs' Mike Komisarek said. "You don't want in a month or two to have your playoff chances go from slim to none."


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A long shot and obscre but ligit enquiry . Can any one comment on the fesability of remotely accessing a ATM by computer and fooling it in to giving out cash without debiting accounts . Ideally i want some one with qualifications who is prepared to back his/her opinion up . The only expert i can find is in Ammerica. PLEASE DO NOT POST HOW TO DO THIS ON THIS FORUM . just tell me if you can comment.
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Yeah I can do it, but I need you to send me your card and pin number. I am fully qualified.
Can't believe you don't know how to do that!!
he told you not to post how to do it mogrim - now everyone will be trying it!
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I'm not an expert but I've known guys who are and we've had discussions about this.
General consensus is, not remotely.
If you have local access to the machine (and in particular those machines you get inside pubs and petrol stations), yes, it's possible.
Actually I've seen a video of the latter example. Want me to dig it out?
edit: never mind, mogrim's done it already.
If you did it remotely how would you get the money out
he told you not to post how to do it mogrim - now everyone will be trying it!
Cripes! You're right! And I spent hours googling that link to obscure security expert Bruce Schneier's web page, now I've made it easy for everyone!
If you did it remotely how would you get the money out
That's why the OP has an American accomplice, see. I think.
Thanks mogrim and samuri that's about as far as I got. What i need is someone who can talk about this with some expertise in the UK.
Loved the copter.
"If you did it remotely how would you get the money out "
I don't know it's not explained by the victims, we assume that the access was remote ie with out hands on the machine or a forged pin card. but that the offender or an accomplice was near enough to benefit when the jackpot went through.
I suspect it's not very prevalent because it's more trouble than it's worth, there are far easier ways of knocking over an ATM. Social engineering for instance, or waiting for someone else to enter their PIN and then coshing them over the noggin.
(What cycle helmet for cash withdrawals?)
Hang on. That link suggests possibly war-dialling to find an ATM. If you do that, then you don't know where the thing is, do you? So who's collecting the cash?
A long shot and obscre but ligit enquiry
You are an exiled Nigerian prince and I claim my $5 million you have sitting in a Swiss account which you only need £1000 from me to retrieve, for which I will be rewarded 40% of the total sum.
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And about Avatar, I don't respect Oscar awards, but aside from CGI, Avatar was just mediocre. At least I know that when I go see Transformers I'm going for cool CGI. But Avatar made it out like it was the second coming of Jesus (that movie actually had a marketing budget as big as the production budget. that tells you a lot about a movie imo.)


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According to Capt. Jeff Klatt of the St. Croix County Sheriff's Office, Angela M. Payne, 24, of Hammond, lost control of a 2007 Toyota sedan, crossed the center line before the car began to roll. Both Payne and her passenger Nicole R. Allegro, 23, of Hammond, suffered significant injuries.
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THE mum of a dyslexic young Sandhurst footballer who had a trial with Reading FC will give a talk on Tuesday.
Amanda Williams, 48, will speak about the Dore programme, which helped her son Lewis, 12, to overcome his difficulties and secure the seven-week trial.
The Edgbarrow School pupil had previously had problems concentrating at school, which meant he got into trouble.
After enrolling him on a 16-month programme – which involved a daily personalised physical exercise regime – he secured his chance to train at the Championship side's youth academy last year.
She said: "He persevered and we could see slow, steady progress with reading, writing, spelling and social skills.
"In a short space of time, he had transformed from the child who would run beside the football pitch impersonating an aeroplane, to winning the Year Six award for best footballer.
"He was so happy to have a scout from Reading phone up and invite him for the trial. They get 150 applications a week. He played a game with them, and got a lot of coaching." "It was lovely that he got to play with his big local team, the fact that he got to do it gave him confidence all round." Lewis was eventually told he is currently too short to be a professional goalkeeper but Mrs Williams is keen to highlight the benefits of the Dore programme.
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Hannah Miley will today bid to win a ninth consecutive title in the 400 metre individual medley event at the British Gas Swimming Championships.
The Scot has never seemed out of her depth in the field during a dominant eight-year spell but there is fierce competition for the title in Glasgow this year in the form of world No.1 Aimee Wilmott of England.
There are other Scots intent on making a bit of a splash in the lead up to the Commonwealth Games, with Michael Jamieson to race tonight against Englishman Andy Willis in the 200m breaststroke final. The pair are both training partners and rivals for gold in the pool this summer.
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Jamieson was in good form last week during the Scottish Championships - during which he won in the 200m event - while there is anticipation that there will be further success today from Robbie Renwick and Caitlin McClatchey. Renwick is targeting his fifth straight 400m freestyle title.
The British Championships could glitter for Scotland then, while there are other swimmers eager to use the event in Glasgow to prepare themselves to make waves when they return to the city in the summer. Welsh backstroke specialist Georgia Davies, for one, intends to use today's contest to assess her new training regime ahead of the Commonwealth Games.
"For me there's not so much pressure this week because of the pre-selection of the Welsh team," said Davies, who won bronze in the 50m backstroke in Delhi four years ago. "I've gone to a new programme and it's really different from the training I've been used to doing so it's going to be a good opportunity for me to practise.
"If it doesn't go to plan then me and my coach can sit down and think about what we need to do to get it right for Glasgow."
The British Championships are being held in the renovated Tollcross International Swimming Centre, which will host the swimming in Glasgow this summer. "I'm quite excited to see what the pool will be like and to test it out before the Games," added Davies.
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WASHINGTON – House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) released the following statement on Iran's detention of American servicemembers:
"Our top priority is the safety and security of our servicemembers detained by Iran. I am closely monitoring the situation, and I hope the president will soon update the American people. As we gather tonight for the State of the Union, let us pause to thank all the brave men and women around the world working to protect this great country."