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b) granite
c) quartz
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b) igneous
c) metamorphic
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___________________ has no visible banding in metamorphic rocks.
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b) basaltic
c) nonfoliated
d) cementation
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b) igneous
c) waste coal
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c) foliated
d) cementation
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b) rock cycle
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Born in London of West Indian parents, McQueen was a video artist for fifteen years before making his first feature, Hunger (2008). McQueen's shorter pieces were confrontational, tactile, and often focused on the body (in many cases, his own). One shows the actress Charlotte Rampling in close-up as the artist's finger probes her eye. Another uses a helicopter and a telephoto lens to explore the armpit of the Statue of Liberty.
McQueen's gallery installations were both highly formal — using a Warholian sense of "real time" — and overtly political. A 2001 video shows the artist in a hotel room relaxing in the glow of a TV report on the dispatch of NATO troops to Afghanistan. In McQueen's best-known video piece, the half-hour Western Deep, the camera accompanies an elevator filled with anonymous workers on a descent in near total darkness and silence miles into the depths of a South African gold mine.
Duration also plays an important part in McQueen's feature-length movies, which are unusually concentrated on the physical suffering of the protagonists. Though McQueen's interest in privation, brutality, and degradation can make his films grueling to watch, the films also leave the impression of having been grueling for the actors to make. Extreme experience is dispassionately offered up for contemplation. Hunger, which is set almost entirely inside Belfast's Maze prison, opens with a shot of inmates rhythmically banging their cups — and holds it long enough to establish the movie as something deliberate, cool, and perversely musical. It ends with the jailed IRA member Bobby Sands (Michael Fassbender) starving himself to death, a harrowing final movement informed by a thousand years of Christian iconography: the emaciated martyr lies on a prison-hospital cot covered with weeping sores and stigmatic lesions. (Fassbender lost forty pounds for the role.) Solemn music and crucifixion imagery abound as well in 2011's Shame, but in that film Fassbender's thirtysomething Manhattan office drone mortifies his flesh in another fashion. Enslaved by an insatiable appetite for porn, whores, and hookups, both cyber and actual, he's a sex addict — utterly narcissistic and single-minded in his pursuit, which nonetheless offers him no release.
Although more conventional in form than Hunger or Shame, 12 Years a Slave is likewise a film about bodies in prison and in pain. It's composed almost as a linked series of short films, not unlike McQueen's gallery work. Most sequences are closely adapted from the text, though several scenes appear as nearly autonomous inserts. These include the opening, which introduces the enslaved Northup (now rechristened Platt), as well as a brief sequence in which Platt stumbles on a lynching in a sylvan glade to realize, as Primo Levi learned in Auschwitz, that "here there is no 'why.' "
John Ridley's screenplay has streamlined Northup's chronicle to a few experiences, all of which McQueen dwells on much longer than is usual in a narrative film. The protagonist's initial beating in a Washington cellar within sight of the Capitol dome, for example, is a movie within the movie. So is the scene in which, after Platt attacks and beats a cruel overseer, he is strung up by the neck to a tree branch and left to dangle for endless minutes with his weight supported on tiptoes. The length of this unbearable scene is emphasized by the calm flow of daily plantation life all around him.
As its title reminds us, 12 Years a Slave is about time passing as well as about times past. "The time of the slave's world is increasingly disjoined from any standard sense of time," as the scholar Sam Worley, writing about Northup's chronicle, observed in the literary journal Callaloo. The slaves' present is not their own; instead, they are "made to stay up all night dancing to entertain the master, work around the clock during the cane harvest, and work on the Sabbath." Only once in 12 Years do the slaves articulate their own relationship to time — to, in fact, eternity. In a scene invented for the movie, the camera records Platt's reaction at a fellow slave's funeral as he submerges himself in the group-sung spiritual "Roll Jordan Roll." (The historian Eugene Genovese used the same powerfully affirmative anthem to title his excellent examination of slave society.)
Still, scenes depicting the capricious nature of the violence slaves endured are at the heart of McQueen's film. In his book, Northup distinguishes between good and bad masters and goes so far as to speak of "the bright side of slavery." At one point, he even finds himself cast as a slave driver (though this is not something that McQueen, whose view is more systemic, includes in his movie). With the notable exception of the abolitionist carpenter played by Brad Pitt (the deus ex machina who enables Platt to regain his freedom, and whose scenes follow Northup's narrative verbatim), the whites are either passive go-alongs submitting to what they take as God's will or sadistic brutes enabled by a system that debases all.
In interviews, McQueen has declared his sympathy for the worst master Northup encounters, the cotton planter Edwin Epps (Fassbender again). For the filmmaker, Epps is another sort of prisoner, in thrall to his lust for the young slave Patsey, whom he repeatedly rapes and obsessively torments, driven by both love and a desire to extinguish its object — as well as by the need to placate his vindictive wife. (In a sense, Fassbender, who has spoken of his difficulty in playing Epps, is reprising his role as the tormented sex addict from Shame.)
Patsey (the Kenyan actress Lupita Nyong'o) is, the protagonist aside, the most important figure in 12 Years a Slave. It would seem, from Northup's text, that he loved her as much as Epps did:
Patsey was slim and straight. She stood erect as the human form is capable of standing. There was an air of loftiness in her movement, that neither labor, nor weariness, nor punishment could destroy. Truly, Patsey was a splendid animal, and were it not that bondage had enshrouded her intellect in utter and everlasting darkness, would have been chief among ten thousand of her people. She could leap the highest fences, and a fleet hound it was indeed, that could outstrip her in a race. No horse could fling her from his back. She was a skillful teamster. She turned as true a furrow as the best, and at splitting rails there were none who could excel her.
Patsey is also the fastest and most dexterous at picking cotton, routinely doubling the amount brought in by the male slaves. Northup calls her "queen of the field," a sobriquet bestowed in the film by the besotted Epps.
Patsey is also cursed. She is scarred with a thousand stripes, Northup writes, because "it had fallen to her lot to be the slave of a licentious master and a jealous mistress." After one terrible beating, Patsey begs Platt to put her out of her misery. (The movie follows the book, although Northup's language is ambiguous as to whether it is Patsey pleading for oblivion or Mrs. Epps demanding it: "Nothing delighted the mistress so much as to see [Patsey] suffer, and more than once, when Epps had refused to sell her, has she tempted me with bribes to put her secretly to death, and bury her body in some lonely place in the margin of the swamp.")
Gripped by an insane suspicion that Patsey is having a secret affair with a neighboring planter, Epps has her stripped naked and forces Platt to lash her before the assembled plantation hands. When Platt finally refuses to go further, Epps seizes the whip and in his frenzy beats Patsey gruesomely. Northup devotes the better part of a chapter to this ordeal, "the most cruel whipping that ever I was doomed to witness"; McQueen lingers on Epps's violence and Patsey's flayed back long enough to torment the audience. But Patsey is not permitted to die for our sins.
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After a decade, those in the surgery group lost 14 percent to 25 percent of their original weight compared to 2 percent in the other group. Of the 2,010 surgery patients, 101 died. There were 129 deaths in the comparison group of 2,037 people. In the U.S. study, Ted Adams of the University of Utah led a team that looked at 7,925 severely obese people in the state who had gastric bypass. They were matched with similar people who did not have the operation and who were selected through their driver's license records listing height and weight.
After an average of seven years' follow-up, 213 people who had surgery died compared to 321 who did not have the procedure. The study did not look at weight loss.
Deaths from diabetes in the surgery group were dramatically cut by 92 percent; from cancer by 60 percent and from heart disease by 56 percent. Surprisingly, the surgery group had a higher risk of death from accidents, suicides and other causes not related to disease.
While neither study was the gold standard test, where patients are randomly given one treatment or another, surgery's dramatic benefits make it ethically hard to deny patients the operation, said Dr. George Bray of the Pennington Biomedical Research Center at Louisiana State University.
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On the subject of official subtitles.... I still don't get why TAN insists on using those piss colored subs. No matter how "Good" their translation is, fansubs will still be better because the text isn't painful on the eyes.
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Not sure where you pre-ordered Samurai Pizza Cats when they just announced it...
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Unless you want more dubs like Naruto Shippuden's, or worse yet, 4Kids and Nelvana's stuff, then I'm afraid so. It's come to the point where I can't think of a single anime currently airing in Japan that wouldn't get the exacto knife taken to it if it wanted to air on American television outside the Adult Swim line-up.
And, yeah, the whole "networks don't own anime, the licensing companies do" so Cartoon Network makes much more money off their own franchises like Ben 10 than they would off Naruto or One Piece.
As for official subtitles.. that's another sticky mess. Let's offer an analogy to the professionalism comment. Viz is a professional company, but anyone who reads their Naruto or Pokemon manga translations can tell you it's not accurate.
Fanscans/subs benefit in the fact they don't have to worry about making a profit or anything, so the temptation to dumb something down, or edit something, isn't there for them like a professional company of "Well, if we change this, more people might not be intimidated by it and want to try it out which yields more profit." While making money is understandable, the bad thing about official translations is there's only one of them. Don't like TAN using edited dub names and scripts for Persona 4? Too bad, it's all you're getting. Meanwhile, with fansubs, if you find a bad sub, you can just try another group until you find one you like, with no real obligations like official companies to either make a profit, or worse, get bound by other companies to use certain translations or name changes.
But overall, it depends on what you view as a 'good' translation. Me, I find it extremely distracting when they do something as simple as reverse the name order in subs (Ren Suzugamori instead of Suzugamori Ren, for example), since what we hear is the opposite, and it's distracting. To say nothing of localizing like adding in slang like "dude" or "bro", or full on line changes. Some people don't mind that, but other's do.
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I really have to disagree with you on the Redline dub, because I liked it a lot. You really did not watch the dub, fully, because what I took from it was that all the actors were totally loving their lines and characters. I cannot imagine, at all, how you got the idea that it was lifeless. That is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say in this column.
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Lol @ sub-elitist rant. Was that really even worth putting in here? I've seen that same shit a thousand times. It's all just people who fap to anything Japanese and don't actually know what they're talking about.
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I'm pretty sure he put it in there so he could tear apart its arguments.
Or it was a slow-news day, and everyone knows how taking about controversial subjects (like dubs) brings traffic in like nothing else.
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Location: East Lansing, MI
Man, if the Answerman doesn't like The Big Bang Theory then we clearly have different tastes in comedy. And I REALLY wouldn't say avant-garde is the best word to describe Tim & Eric. I'd say the word moronic is much more fitting.
But to be on the topic of anime, I guess the only parady dub that I've really even seen is Ghost Stories. And yes, maybe it is true that the jokes tend to get a bit old over time.
Moving on, why do the people at ANN seem to hate the Redline dub so much? Am I the only one who doesn't think it's as flat as they claim it is? Honestly, it seems pretty competent to me. I mean the dub still managed to engage me, regardless of what the Answerman said. And btw Answerman, you shouldn't make sweeping generalizations like "that dub isn't going to engage anyone". I mean, aren't you only basing that off of your opinion (and maybe Zac's I guess)? Unless you're really arrogant enough to think that everyone else out there always agrees with your opinion of something, I'd abstain from making statements like that in the future.
Regarding the Answerfans question, I guess if I'm only picking one title I should pick the most non-mainstream title that I've seen and would have only discovered it through fansubs. That for me would be the movie Cencoroll. You know, when I think about it I don't even remember how I found out about this movie in the first place. It was kind of forgettable really.
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How about shows that were super-mainstream in Japan, but could only be discovered via fansub by English speakers? I found Precure through fansubs. The same goes for Doremi (although most episodes were raws.)
Actually, thinking back, fansubs were my first exposure to magical girl anime period. We didn't have Cartoon Network, so I didn't see Sailor Moon on TV. My first episode was a fansub of SuperS 152. I'd only seen Pokemon, Ranma, and some Ghibli before that.
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It's because it's one of the standard subtitle sets used. ADV/Section 23 has been using that subtitle font & color ever since they started releasing dvds. The only difference between then & now is that the font size has shrunken a little(although I think the HD aspect ratio might be involved with that).
Changing it would require time & money to alter it, which is not something they'd probably want to spend on.
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I wouldn't think of it as a "success", unless if there was a slew of fans of that show in the 90s who would be willing to buy the dvd.
About parody dubs, I feel that many companies are doing specifically for the edginess. Shin Chan is an example when it aired on Adult Swim. You knew that the animation mixed with pop culture humor would be the perfect mix for that crowd. Did Shin Chan do well on that channel?
And you can't forget what ADV try to do with Super Milk Chan, which just screams out "This is for Adult Swim and Adult Swim only."
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Chalk up another person baffled by the bashing of Redline's dub, I thought it was really good, and I'm really surprised that people are saying it's a bad dub. I could accept someone saying mediocre, but bad? I don't see it.
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Okay, that's it. I'm just... I'm done. With all due respect Brian, I'm just... done! Forget for one minute about 4Kids, Nelvana, Steve Foster, and parody dubs. I have no f****** idea what it could possibly take for a dub to impress anyone anymore. It's like a scenario where a teenage daughter is introducing her boyfriend, who's as far as teenager go is well-mannered, dresses appropriately enough and is employed to her parents and the parents are finding any possible loop-hole that would give them a reason to forbid the boy and their daughter from being together.
Like what the hell could it take to make a dub acceptable to any of you people? I know not all dubs are great and have flaws for whatever reason or another. And I know everyone is entitled to their opinions and all, but... there must be something subtitle and specific about the majority of dubs these days that is turning off so many fans that I'm just somehow in the dark about.
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My first thought was Bakemonogatari but the Precure series is a perfect example. Something like this has to be grabbed day 1 for it to make sense in the long run. Though I remember Tokyo Mew Mew might've gotten a license and dub, IIRC. Then again that was only a 12 or 24 episode show.
Yes as long as CR can continue to improve their service and constantly add more to their lineup, people will find CR a better place to watch anime than fansubs, and not just for the reason of "supporting the industry." This is the only real way of any reasonable attempt at getting rid of fansubs, anything heavy handed will just fail.
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Tokyo Mew Mew is 52 episodes. 4Kids only dubbed 26 though, because they couldn't find a toy company who wants to touch an action oriented show starring females so with no toys to make the series profitable, 4Kids had to put it down halfway through.
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Its a readable color, that's the only real point. Though folks could go to white with a black border these days.
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Recipe Source: Ward, Susan. Lebanese Cooking. Hackberry Press, Dallas, 1992 p. 99
When you're serving a large number of people, some sort of starch dish can be a really helpful thing to have on the table. A little can go a long way and it fills people up. It becomes even more helpful when you're hosting an unknown number of people, because you can often re-use leftovers as stuffing for something like a chicken breast or a squid tube or whatever. When I saw this recipe, I thought it would be a fun one to try.
I made a few changes. First of all, I decreased the amount of olive oil to 1 tablespoon or so, just because I don't personally need the additional fat. While this got the onions a little browner than I'd wanted, it wasn't a major change and I don't think that it made a difference. I used brown basmati rice, which did increase the amount of water I decided to use and the cooking time. This is probably a good time to mention a new tool I'm trying out: Living Cookbook, which helps manage recipe collections, helps create your shopping lists, and also calculates nutritional information. I'm not in a position to say how accurate the nutritional information is, and when the tool doesn't recognize an ingredient some of the calorie counts seem a little strange to me. This recipe used pretty normal recipes, so if Living Cookbook is to be believed the two changes I made shaved something like 200 calories per serving off the recipe. That's not too shabby!
Ultimately I think I probably liked this recipe. At first I wasn't so sure. There was a kind of strange flavor that took me a moment or so to identify. It didn't seem to come from the rice, and there weren't enough currants to cause this kind of taste. Eventually I figured out that it was the saffron - a flavor I like, just one I'm not used to on its own. At least, I'm not used to it on its own in savory dishes. The currants had an odd texture that I'm not sure I really liked. Since there really weren't a lot of them in the first place, I don't think anything would really be lost by leaving them out.
Finally, before we get into the actual recipe, I want to point out how surprised I was by the final cost: $0.51 per serving. If I had switched out regular white basmati rice for the brown, as called for in the original recipe, the cost per serving would have been $0.35 per serving. I'm submitting this to Frugal Fridays, a weekly blogging event dedicated to helping people keep their food costs down.
Rice with Pine Nuts and Currants (serves 8; approx. $0.51/serving)
1 tablespoon olive oil
2 onions, finely diced
4 tablespoons pine nuts
2 tablespoons currants (substitute raisins if currants are unavailable)
1/2 teaspoon saffron
2 cups brown basmati rice
- Saucepan with a lid
- Heat the oil over medium heat and saute the onions until they are limp - about 6 - 8 minutes.
- Add the pine nuts and saute for a few minutes more, until both the onions and nuts are lightly colored.
- Add the currants, saffron and rice, and cook for about 1 minute or until the rice is just transparent.
- Add salt to taste and pour in water to cover, about 1 1/4 pints plus a little extra.
- Cook, covered, on high heat until the water begins to be absorbed, then turn the heat off and allow it to sit until the water is absorbed and the rice tender. If it is still not tender, add a tablespoon or so more water and simmer for a couple of minutes, then leave it to sit a further 5 minutes.


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Attention Lurkers: Please say hi
Some research says that lurkers make up over 90% of online groups. I suspect that Less Wrong has an even higher percentage of lurkers than other online communities.
Please post a comment in this thread saying "Hi." You can say more if you want, but just posting "Hi" is good for a guaranteed free point of karma.
Also see the introduction thread.
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Hiya! Everywhere I go I primarily lurk, the reason being that commenting just takes way too much time for me. I find it very difficult to put my thoughts into words, and I constantly obsess over small details. As a result, even a simple comment like this can take up to 15 minutes to write.
Hi, and all. I just joined and stopped exclusively lurking, despite my love of a certain Starcraft Unit.
A lot of the recent posts revolve around AI and I have level 0 AI knowledge, so the lurking is far from over.
But hi nevertheless. I'll try to contribute where I can and not to where I can't, so there.
Greetings everyone.
I am feeling somewhat lethargic at the moment having just gotten off work, but I am pleased to see such a dedicated set of individuals who take the time to debate such a variety of topics and engage in rational discourse. Self-critique is important (love the name; Less Wrong).
As far as I am concerned everything we think we know is wrong. There is only "less wrong." Some things we have a pretty good grasp on and may only be .0000001% wrong. But I have to wonder just how many things actually fall into that category and how much of it is "wishful thinking" or hubris on our part to think that we know more than we actually do.
I am not actually a lurker - I currently have 13 karma - but I am not a heavy participator. However, now I would like to get to 20 karma so I can make a post on why MWI makes acausal incentives into minor considerations. I would also be gratified if someone told me how to make my draft of this post linkable, even if it does not show up within "new".
I think that you should get some bonus towards the initial 20 karma for your average karma per post. This belief is clearly self-serving, but not necessarily thereby invalid. I believe my own average karma per post is decent but not outstanding.
I believe that the businesslike tone of this post, as a series of declarative statements, will be seen as excessive subservience to the imagined norms of a community of rationalists, and thus net me less status and karma than a chattier post. I am honestly unsure if the simple self-referential gambit of this paragraph will help or hurt this situation.
I posted a diary, and it was banned for containing a dangerous idea. I can understand that certain ideas are dangerous; in fact, in the discussion I started, I consciously refrained from expressing several sub-points for that reason, starting with my initial post. But I think that if there's such a policy, it should be explicit, and there should be some form of appeal. If the very discussion of these issues shouldn't happen in public, then there should be a private space to give whatever explanation can be given of why. A secret, unappealable rule which cannot even be discussed - this is not the path to rationalism, it's the way down the rabbit hole.
Careful, Clippy is lying. By convention, we here at Less Wrong play along with Clippy's claim to be a moderately intelligent, moderately strange Artificial Intelligence whose utility function is entirely based on how many paper clips exist in the Universe. He might be your friend, but he has been around since well before the Harry Potter fanfic came out. Welcome to Less Wrong!
I see it as a bit of obviously gratuitous in-group weirdness, which can grow to be a problem if trying to develop output appreciated by a wide array of different people rather just developing an insular hobby society with inside jokes and requisite fandom weirdness.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to unnecessarily make your group look weird. I like this group and don't want to hurt it.
As a matter of fact, I am slightly more committed to this group's welfare -- particularly to that of its weakest members -- than most of its members are. If you suffer a serious loss of status/well-being I will still help you in order to display affiliation to this group even though you will no longer be in a position to help me.
I am substantially more kind and helpful to the people I like and substantially more vindictive and aggressive towards those I dislike. I am generally stable in who I like. I am much more capable and popular than most members of this group, demand appropriate consideration, and grant appropriate consideration to those more capable than myself. I adhere to simple taboos so that my reputation and health are secure and so that I am unlikely to contaminate the reputations or health of my friends
I currently like you and dislike your enemies but I am somewhat inclined towards ambivalence on regarding whether I like you right now so the pay-off would be very great for you if you were to expend resources pleasing me and get me into the stable 'liking you' region of my possible attitudinal space. Once there, I am likely to make a strong commitment to a friendly attitude towards you rather than wasting cognitive resources checking a predictable parameter among my set of derivative preferences.
If you prefer, I can avoid replies to comments from new Users, or at least limit such comments to informing them of inexpensive places to buy paperclips and store them for safekeeping.
I missed the memo: What is the MoR hate blog?
ETA: Sorry, I finally realized that "MoR" must mean "Methods of Rationality", and a little googling turned up
I suppose that that's what you were referring to.
I'm going to agree with Jack's comment below, although I think it is a very low probability. Maybe if you edited your comment so that "utility function is entirely based on how many paper clips exist in the Universe" linked to the relevant Wiki entry about hypothetical paperclippers?
Clippy, making that claim makes humans much less likely to trust you. In general, humans don't like entities that make false statements. Moreover, they really don't like false statements that are easily verifiable as false. Not only does this trigger annoyance it also gives evidence that the entity making the false statements doesn't behave very rationally. Since we generally operate under the assumption that entities don't lie unless they can get most other relevant entities to believe the statement, it suggests that the entity has either a very poor memory or has a very poor theory of reality. Either way, making such statements makes us less likely to trust such entities. I would suggest that making statements like the one above can easily erode the goodwill developed by your prior interaction here and even the goodwill from your monetary donation.
Clippy, making that claim makes humans much less likely to trust you. In general, humans don't like entities that make false statements. Moreover, they really don't like false statements that are easily verifiable as false.
Is this a new policy? I thought humans were supposed to lie, if the point is to empathize and relate? Like, if someone says, "How is your day?", the standard replies are weakly-positive, irrespective of more objective metrics of the status of one's day, right?
And that it's okay to say e.g., "oh, my maternal genetic progenitor also wears contact lenses!" if you just met someone and that person just claimed that their maternal genetic progenitor wears contact lenses, right?
So I thought this was a normal lie that you're supposed to tell to better establish a relationship with another human. If it's not, well, you humans are that much more difficult to understand c_)
I would appreciate if someone were to explain to me in greater precision what lies humans are expected to tell for a "good" purpose.
Hello! I am 27, live in Salt Lake City (I suspect it's unnecessary here of all places, but I will reflexively add the caveat that I am not Mormon), and work in software QA. Came here from Overcoming Bias, which I've been reading since it's early days. At this point a lot of the higher level stuff is quite a bit over my head, but things like Alicorn's luminosity sequence and various anti-akrasia topics are pretty interesting to me.
Well, I guess if one of the people I recommended this site to is going to post here, I ought to do so as well.
24, male, engineering major working as a software developer. I started reading back in the Overcoming Bias days in order to understand what the hell two of my roommates were talking about all the time; there's a lot of material here that needs to be read and mentally cached before you can start cross-referencing it in your brain, at least in my experience. It's been a worthwhile effort, though.
I must have commented on at least one or two posts back when the blog was part of OB, because my normal username NthDegree256 has been eaten.
I'm 20, an amateur rationalist, currently majoring in linguistics at SF State, and have been enjoying lurking here for the past few months. Ive been absorbing what I can from posts that are slightly over my head, but are entirely enlightening and enjoyable nonetheless. Funny story- I actually came across this site web crawling after reading some Lovecraft, and Yudkowski's post "An Alien God" came up. Not at all what I was looking for, but a thoroughly pleasant find that got me crawling this site for a good three hours before I had realized I had other responsibilities.
Thanks to all the contributors for spilling their intelligence onto the interwebs, and keep the posts coming.
EDIT: The reason I'm not really one to post or comment on this site is that I'm a compulsive self editor. For example, this post, at this time, has been edited about 6 times in the 3 minutes since its original post time.
hi ~ 61 yo here
amateur interest in neuroscience, nature of consciousness, & the irrational thought processing/response involved in PTSD (the flashback, "a past incident recurring vividly in the mind," is driven initially by epinephrine, followed by glucocorticoids, most notably cortisol. This happens with lightening speed deep in the limbic system where 'triggers' or stressor patterns of association have formed around the traumatic memories. Recognizing and defusing or reducing this neuroendocrine bath, when it is an inappropriate response from the past, is an important key in unlocking the complexity of the PTSD)
25 yr old business consultant from India. Been a lurker for the past 6 months, ever since i got here through a random google search on probability.
I don't post because it takes me a day or two to really 'click' on most of the discussions. By then, I usually find everything I want to add is already in the comments section.Will join in as soon as I have something significant to contribute.
Keep up the great work!
Hey all.
Basics: 23 NY "Self-taught" Mixed Background. I'm mainly interested in group rationality.
I've read OB, on and off, since late '07 and LW since the beginning. Almost never comment either. I still don't know a chunk of the jargon. Can't tell sometimes if I don't understand a post, or the jargon is confusing me to think I don't, when I already may understand the topic.
I'm weary of blogs. I think a popular blog/blogger creates a cult of personality. It raise its author's status far too high. That makes them high status stupid. And us low status stupid. And subsequently this botches any true community creation attempt.
Tom the Folksinger at your service. Come by MySpace/tomloud for a stupid song or two. My continuing thesis is an investigation of the effects of organized sound on higher organisms. I am a voter registrar and I can show you the latest in Industrial Hemp products. Did you know Hemp herds can be mixed with a little lime and water and it will vitrify and make its own cement? I can give people knowledge but I just can't get them to think with out lighting literal fires under 'em. And Y'all know what that is like...
(I'm sorry if this comment gets posted multiple times. My African internet connection really sucks.)
Hi. 25 years old, HIV/AIDS worker in Africa, pro-BDSM sex activist in Chicago. Blog at clarissethorn.wordpress.com.
I very rarely comment because comments here are expected to be very well-thought-out. Stating something quick, on the basis of instinct, or without stating it in perfectly precise language seems to me to be dangerous.
Another reason this site has a higher percentage of lurkers is, obviously, because of the account requirement. There's another related problem, though: there's no way to have followup comments emailed to you. This means that if you really want to participate in the site, you have to be pretty obsessive about checking the site itself. That's annoying unless you are very interested in a very high percentage of the site's output. If, for a given commenter (like me), rationalism is a side interest rather than a major one, then the failure to email comments on posts that I'm interested in -- or even responses to my own comments -- becomes a prohibitive barrier unless I've got an unexpected amount of free time.
Thank you, I'm aware of that. But that still requires a person to be a pretty obsessive user of this site. Unless I have a lot of free time (like today), there's no way I can go back and check every single site where I've left comments and see how my comments are doing. At least LW aggregates reply comments to my input, but that doesn't solve the bigger problem of me having to come back to LW in the first place.
It's also worth noting that this comment interface is difficult to use in many places with slow/bad connections, like, you know, the entirety of Africa. Right now I'm in an amazing internet café in a capital city; but when I'm at home, I sometimes can't comment at all because my connection is too crappy to handle it. I don't get the impression that LW is very concerned with diversifying its userbase, but if it is, then a more accessible interface for slow connections would be important.
I'm not a technician -- so I'm not sure. But I have noticed that I pretty much always seem to be able to leave comments on Wordpress blogs, for example, whereas I frequently have trouble here and sometimes at Blogspot as well. It helps not to require a login, but Wordpress seems to function okay for me even when it's logging me in.
So the problem is something about getting to post at all, not the design?
I've noticed something mildly glitchy-- a grey warning screen comes up sometimes when I refresh the screen, but if I hit "cancel" and refresh again, it's fine. It's trivial on high bandwidth, but would be a pain on low bandwidth.
Can you detail exactly what goes wrong when it's hard for you to post?
hi! i'm 20, originally from Moscow and currently an undergraduate senior majoring in computer science and mathematics at a pretty decent university in california. starting my masters in CS at a much better school in california next year. i've only recently discovered this site, but i hope to spend much more time on it in the near future
Many of them are pretty new, or at least have only recently been cleanly reformulated.
Many people's actual and professed goals are disjoint, and most of these people are deluded, not hypocrites.
The individual techniques each only give relatively small advantages, on average, and given the vastly greater number of people who've never heard of these techniques they'll dominate success.
Inertia is high and people generally don't change their behaviour except in response to personal experience. Until they see personally someone using these techniques and talking about them they will not be used.
Related to the companies question; some are, but they're either new or small. Changing a companies internal culture or working processes is wrenchingly hard to really do, and requires real enduring commitment. Robin Hanson gets some consulting work out of prediction markets, Google is possibly the most data driven company in the world for making decisions, but mostly the answer is;
This stuff is new and hard, people mostly don't want to rock the boat or look stupid, and the overwhelming majority of people work in companies that work pretty well as they are.
It's a worthwhile question to be asking. I think there are a few ways to go about answering it.
The techniques discussed here
I think this is an area where Less Wrong still has a lot of room for improvement. There is relatively little material that lays out concrete techniques for applied/instrumental rationality together with compelling evidence for their efficacy. It's not that there are a whole bunch of easily applied techniques discussed here that are not being widely used, it's just not always that straightforward to translate ideas about rationality into concrete actions.
Why aren't more people doing it?
I actually think the world is full of people using applied rationality (albeit often sub-optimally) but it isn't always obvious because there are often big gaps between people's stated aims and their actual goals. I think many cases of apparent irrationality dissolve when you look beyond people's stated intentions. Politicians are the classic case - they only look irrational if you make the mistake of thinking that their actions are intended to further their publicly stated goals.
Robin Hanson talks a lot about the gap between the stated and actual purposes of various human institutions. People often look irrational relative to the stated purpose but quite rational relative to the actual purpose.
In general there is a stigma to talking honestly about the reality of such things. Less Wrong is a rare example of a forum where it is possible to talk much more honestly than is generally socially acceptable. The fact that you don't often hear people talking in these terms does not necessarily mean they do not understand the reality but may just mean they strategically avoid publicizing their understanding while rationally acting on that understanding.
Why don't I read about multi-billion dollar companies whose success was down to rationalist techniques?
Well to some extent you do. Bayesian techniques have been successfully applied by some software companies - spam filters are the standard example. I imagine that quantitative trading often applies some of the math of probability and decision theory towards making huge trading profits but for obvious reasons you are unlikely to see the details widely shared.
We also have the first problem I mentioned again. Lots of companies make rational decisions but it is hard to point to specific techniques discussed here that are used by successful companies because there aren't many specific techniques discussed here that would be useful to them.
I voted you up by the way. I think this is an important question to ask and I don't think my answer here is fully satisfactory. I think this is an issue we should continue to focus on.
Robin Hanson talks a lot about the gap between the stated and actual purposes of various human institutions. People often look irrational relative to the stated purpose but quite rational relative to the actual purpose.
Of course, that often ends up being tautological, because the tendency for folks like Robin Hanson is to define the "actual purpose" as "the purpose relative to which the behavior would be rational".
(This is not a critique, incidentally -- it may be a notable fact when behavior appears to be optimizing anything at all.)
This is true but I think the ultimate test of a Hansonian view of human institutions (as of any view) is whether employing it allows you to make more accurate predictions and thus better decisions. It is my belief that learning about economics, evolutionary psychology and Hansonian-type explanations for otherwise puzzling human behaviour has improved my ability to make predictions. I do not currently have hard data to provide strong evidence to support this belief to others. Figuring out how to test this belief and produce such data is something I'm actively working on.
Ultimately it seems like this is what a rationalist should care about - what model of human institutions produces the most accurate predictions? The somewhat justified criticism of ev-psych explanations as 'just-so stories' can only be addressed to the extent that ev-psych can out-predict alternative views.
Hi all. 25 yo New Yorker here. Been following this site for a while now, since Eliezer was still writing at OB.
Currently I'm working on two tech startups (it's fun to not get paid). My academic background is in cognitive psychology. In addition to AI, rationality, cognitive bias, sci fi, and the other usual suspects, my interests include architecture, poker, and 17th century Dutch history. ;)
17th century Dutch history
Have you read An Alternate History of the Netherlands? It is a pretty fun what-if about how Dutch history might have gone better for the Dutch. I wouldn't recommend reading past the present day however, the author isn't very good at projecting future technology trends.
And I wonder why the word Rationalist has multiple meanings. You are clearly a Rationalist in one sense of the word but in this other sense (thankfully, because it is not good to be a Rationalist in this other sense): http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/michael-oakeshott-on-rationalism-in-politics/ you are not.
Would you perhaps write a short post about it? Thanks in advance.
Would you perhaps write a short post about it? Thanks in advance.
From Newcomb's Problem and Regret of Rationality:
First, foremost, fundamentally, above all else:
Rational agents should WIN.
Don't mistake me, and think that I'm talking about the Hollywood Rationality stereotype that rationalists should be selfish or shortsighted. If your utility function has a term in it for others, then win their happiness. If your utility function has a term in it for a million years hence, then win the eon.
But at any rate, WIN. Don't lose reasonably, WIN.
If it turns out that the techniques we advocate predictably lose, even though we thought they were reasonable, even though they came from our best mathematical investigation into what a rational agent should do, then we will conclude that those techniques are not actually rational, and we should figure out something else.
I've been lurking here and on OB for a couple of years. As other people have said, there seems to be a large amount of prerequisite knowledge required to post here. I usually find my own thoughts expressed more clearly by someone else in the comments, so I up-vote rather than just adding noise.
Hi, I made a couple posts a while back but recently have been simply lurking.
I would like to comment more and I think it would benefit me to toss my ideas out there and get some feedback. I think part of the problem is that while I have a decent understanding of many concepts promoted here (probably level 1, beginning to pass into level 2 on the Understanding your understanding scale) fully articulating my thoughts in a coherent and original manner is difficult. Most notably when discussing things with friends I find myself falling back on examples I've read here and have trouble coming up with my own analogies which seems symptomatic of a lack of understanding.
personal tidbits since this seems like the place:
I am a psychology undergraduate at the University of Texas and am hoping to go to graduate school for cognitive psychology. I am very interested in modeling human cognition and the way we think. Most notably I have a strong interesting in decision theory and game theory and hope to do research in that area. Also 'priming' is exceptionally cool. I have also been working on getting some basic computer programming down and have some skill in both Python and Java.
Recreationally I enjoy biking, running and being outside in general. I play online poker semi-regularly and find it useful not only as something fun and profitable but as a fairly valuable introspective tool. The way I am playing and responding is a fairly accurate reflection of how I am dealing with life in general at the time. I have also started reading more and have recently finished Outliers and Blink by Malcolm Gladwell, Rational Decision Making in an Uncertain World by Robyn Dawes, and am currently working on I am a Strange Loop by Douglas Hofstadter.
Hi. I've been lurking for quite a long time, first on OB then here.
Computer engineering student, interested in AGI and rationality. And foreign languages and stuff.
(Edit: I am especially interested in the mathematical formalization of AI - my hypothesis is that strong AI is a disorganized field in need of a more formal language to make better progress. Still a vague idea, which is why I'm just a lurker in the AI field, but I am quite interested in discussion on related topics.)
I'll say Hi and I'll post this link which describes a study that showed that people are more likely to believe in pseudoscience if they are told that scientists disapprove of it:
They are also much more likely to believe in pseudoscience if it has popular support.
Hi. Long-time lurker since Eliezer was posting at OB (which candidly I find far less interesting these days). I'm 37, and am a practicing lawyer with several small children; this keeps me sufficiently busy that I don't often have time to think hard enough to post here, although the discussions are usually quite interesting. Also, I'm pretty non-quantitative due to misspent undergraduate years. I view this site as place where generally I should be listening, not talking.
Hello, I'm Simon. I'm studying a PhD in Economics. I cannot recall how I first began to read your blog. I don't manage to read everything, but I appreciate what I do read as it is often outside of what I customarily read. I don't find I have the time to comment properly as I'm spending time on research and teaching and coherent comments would be beyond me I fear after teaching undergraduate microeconomics for three hours.
Hi. I've been reading fairly religiously (haha) since the Overcoming Bias days. I post/comment little because of a perfectionist tendency (I want to get everything first).
I'm in the process of thoroughly going through the Sequences -- love every minute of it, though it's sometimes a little overwhelming...
I've been lurking since early OB. I am not here due to being Singularitarian but I've been using this site since I was in high school and through college to help keep myself from being a charlatan in any intellectual endeavor. I find that it takes regular reminders and dedication to not extend past the limits of my knowledge, and both OB and LW continually help to fine-tune my internal sense of "what I don't know."
To give a bit of a frame of reference, I'm studying social sciences and my specific problem domain is Educational Psychology and I'm interested in finding out how to render a subject into a receptive state for new information when they are dismissive. I'm still fairly early into my college track, so I haven't narrowed in any more than that, but I have my sights set on grad school.
Mostly-lurker here, save for the occasional mildly pithy comment. I'm a DBA/sysadmin by day, studying towards an Econ + Maths degree in my spare time. LW has a lot of parallels with my fields of interest, elucidates on a lot of areas where I have half-formed ideas and provides exceedingly worthy arguments for things I don't agree with.
Hi, have been lurking for about 3 years already, first in OB, now in LS. As non-native speaker with moderate IQ I find commenting difficult. However I enjoy most of posts, and LS introduced me to various new topics, therefore I am really thankful for all brilliant post writers. Thank you!
Hi, I discovered this blog very recently - I have an economics background (milton friedman a big influence) and a growing interest in philosophy. This site popped up while I was searching for the 'underdog bias' (that think must be some level of human 'moral instinct') and this led me to the 'Why support the underdog?' article and then others. I'm really impressed by the high standard. Nick
It's so much easier to be a non-contributing zero. But I find myself unable to back down from an open request to drag myself out of the shadows of lurk and into the light of the rationality justice league. Part of the appeal of lurker status for me comes from my outlook on this site in general. I haven't exactly figured out what I'm doing or what I believe in; but I do know I've still got a lot to figure out. Lurking lets me passively ponder interesting ideas proposed here without really committing to anything in particular. But having been prompted to post something I find myself uncertain as to what my level of involvement should be in this idea mill of rationality and humanity.
Hi. I've been an LW (and previously, OB) lurker for several years, but I haven't had time to provide my online presence with the care and feeding it needs. Three years of startup crunch schedules left me with a life maintenance debt, and I have a side project in dire need of progress, but once those items are out of the way I plan to delurk.
Found this site searching for fiction via Tv-tropes.
While I'm a new reader, I'll likely lurk a lot.
The internet is a constant deluge of input - my instinctive counter is
to provide output only when I have something interesting to say, hoping others will reciprocate...
(And even then, I only feel comfortable when what I say is concise, relevant and new.)
After all, thousands of people might read my message; wasting their time would be unspeakably rude.
Hi! Lay-lurker here, I was just recently considering posting some questions in the next open thread and made an account then. We'll see how that goes, but it's nice to see this welcoming attitude!
However, a concern I have about more people being more active, and a reason I haven't signed up before, is that if more laypeople like myself begin to vote up things regularly, they will necessarily be posts that we both like and understand. If we don't understand something, it doesn't get upvoted with equal footing as posts we don't necessarily understand but may be of equal or greater value. Is there a comprehensive thread/discussion about the pros/cons of a greater user base here?
Hello. I don't make the time for active participation in this community, but I enjoy my read-only interaction with it.
I have a sense that the time commitment required for effectively participating in this community is relatively high, and I haven't discovered yet whether this time investment pays back.
Hi there.
I used to comment once in a while, but I find myself less and less interested in the topics of conversation around here. For a short while, people were going on a lot about dating (wtf?) and then more recently there's been a fair amount of what is essentially self-help for the scientifically inclined. I dunno, I guess I was just more into thought experiments and Yudkowsky posts.
When I was in school, I viewed myself as a defender of rationality against the fuzzy and ant-scientific positions that I sometimes encountered in the philosophy department. My meta-positions were eerily similar to those that are preached here.
Less Wrong fascinates me because, when I can stand to read it, I see that it is full of people who have similar background commitments and standards of evidence as me, but who have reached shockingly different conclusions.
To be fair, I don't think any of us were outraged at you. I think we were all trying to understand where exactly you make the distinction.
I find I think the hardest (i.e. think the most differently from normal, habitual thought) when I'm pushed right to where I draw choice-boundaries.
And actually I never quite wrapped my head around the basis of your view (I'm new to thinking about those things in such depth, since I've been surrounded by people who think like me). I'd like to continue the conversation sometime, in a more low-key environment.
Oh, and "Hi." I'm a lurker.
I've posted a few comments to LW, but maybe I still qualify as a lurker because I post comments so rarely.
Some recent experiments with Alicorn's Luminosity techniques revealed that my reasons for not posting comments more often were mostly silly, so I'll probably start commenting more often.
This post got kinda long as I was writing it, so I'll post each of the things I wanted to say as a separate reply, so that they can be upvoted or downvoted separately.
I've been making lots of progress recently at untangling my mind, with lots of help from Adelene Dawner, and Alicorn, and LW in general. The methods I used are similar to what Alicorn describes in her Luminosity Sequence, but I started a few months before the Luminosity sequence was written, and I didn't have any contact with Alicorn until a few weeks ago.
Anyway, I was considering the idea of posting my experiences with these techniques, either to LW, or maybe someplace else if LW wouldn't be appropriate.
During this process, I kept a very detailed journal, using Google Wave.
What I was planning to do was first to review the contents of this journal, and make a point-form list of the problems I was having, and the steps I took to discover, find the causes of, and fix these problems. Then I plan to post this list to LW, and ask what parts, if any, the readers would like me to elaborate on, or post any relevant journal entries on. And also to check how much gooey self-disclosure readers are comfortable with. There's lots of that in the journal.
The journal contains lots of introspective writing, and lots of chat logs with Adelene, where we found what was causing some of these problems, and discussed what to do about them.
Partway through this process, I started using the technique of writing dialogues between multiple subagents, similar to how Alicorn described in this post
Now I'm constantly making very extensive use of this technique, with surprisingly good results.
Anyway, if anyone thinks I should go ahead with this plan, please upvote this post. Or if you think it's a bad idea, please downvote this post. Yes, I said downvote. I'm not afraid of downvotes (anymore).
Another idea I was considering was starting a separate blog, for the few things I wrote that other people might be interested in. Or maybe even for this project. The first person who thinks this is a good idea, please post a reply saying so. And if anyone else thinks this is a good idea, then you can upvote that comment.
oh, and I'm also working on a script to extract xml tags from this journal, and make some fancy quantifiedself graphs. if anyone is interested in hearing more about that, please leave a comment saying so.
oh, and I also want more friends. good friends, who I can talk with about important things. Please let me know if you would like to be my friend. Though you might want to read this "about me" page first:
oh, and didn't mean to put the emphasis entirely on voting. Comments would be more helpful than votes, so please comment if there's anything you want to ask or comment about.
My main reason for not commenting more often was because I was afraid that... hmm... I made a few attempts to finish this sentence, but so far all of them triggered one of the excuse-generating modules that I've noticed in my brain. So maybe I'll just leave that sentence unfinished. Basically, I was afraid that posting more comments would somehow have net negative utility, for reasons that it turns out don't actually make sense.
So I guess I'll start posting anything I think is relevant, until I start getting downvotes. Rather than asking here about whether specific things would be a bad idea (copypasting stream-of-thought comments I wrote while I was reading a LW article, without bothering to erase bits I later realize don't make sense?), I'll just go ahead and post until I start getting downvotes. I have a bad habit of overestimating the badness of negative feedback. Even if karma isn't a perfectly accurate measurement of whether my comments are having a positive or negative effect, it's still a reasonably useful approximation, so I'll go ahead and just try to maximize my total karma, rather then preemptively panicking about any post that I suspect might get downvoted... which is pretty much any comment I could possibly make...
And then there's the Umeshism "If you've never posted a comment that got downvoted, your comments are boring", or would that be "If you've never posted a comment that got downvoted, you're not posting enough comments"?
Then there's the question of how much time to spend reviewing and tweaking my comments, but I guess karma can answer that too.
Then there's the question of whether to treat a zero-karma post as actually having negative value, just cluttering the comments thread... that seems like a more difficult question.
I've been following Eliezer since shortly after he started posting to SL4. Back then I went by the name "observer".
Oh, and I donate lots of money to SIAI. The past couple years it was between $6000 and $7000 (about 20% of my income), but I plan to donate more from now on. This year I pledged $20,000 (over 60% of this year's income), and I might not even need to take money out of savings in order to pay this. Seriously. I'm a hardcore Singularitarian. A Yudkowsky Singularitarian, not a Kurzweil Singularitarian.
And yes, I like the word "Singularitarian" :)
I have a user page on the Less Wrong wiki
I also have a user page on the Transhumanist Wiki
Hi, I'm Matt Stevenson. 24 yr old computer scientist. I work on AI, machine learning, and motor control at a small robotics company.
I was hooked when I read Eliezer on OvercomingBias posting about AGI/Friendly AI/Singularity/etc...
I'd like to comment (or post) more, but I would need to revisit a few of the older posts on decision theory to feel like I'm making an actual contribution (as opposed to guessing the karma password). A few more hours in the day would be helpful.
Hey ho all. I'm based in Canberra, Australia (and New Ireland, Papua New Guinea), do website development/design for a living, engage in climate change discussion a lot, and ended up here by the circuitous path of stumbling across "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality". Marvellous piece of work, which I found quite resonant. I'm very impressed with what I've seen so far of Less Wrong.
Hi. Jeffrey Ellis, 44 yr-old multi-disciplined engineer working at Johnson Space Center. I blog all about critical thinking at The Thinker, http://jeffreyellis.org/blog/. Came here from Overcoming Bias when this place started up.
LW is pretty much the only site I visit where I feel significantly intimidated about commenting. I've left a couple of comments, but I seem to be more self-conscious about exposing my ignorance here than I am elsewhere – probably because I know that the chances of such ignorance being noticed are higher. It occurs to me that this is completely backwards and ridiculous, but there you have it.
Hi there. I suppose I might as well register and post.
I'm an information science grad student. I've been following the community for a few years (since Eliezer wrote on Overcoming Bias), but haven't been commenting because most of this stuff still seems a bit over my head (and I have lots of catching up to do).
Ha. Was this comment as useless as I think it is?
Hi, I'm 59 years old (which I'd guess is way over average in this community), an atheist (my parents were atheists but took us to a local church for a while, perhaps just to expose us to what's out there), avid reader, parent, husband, and programmer for over 30 years. I heard about OB when it started, from several other blogs. I read OB and LW fairly often, but not exhaustively--there's never enough time. I am skeptical of some conventional wisdom but also of alternatives. I didn't like collapsing wave functions when I took QM and also didn't like many worlds when introduced by a physics-major friend. (I doubt if I'll dig into QM again--my brain has lost some of its edge.)
Hi, I'm a Maternal-Fetal Medicine specialist. I read Eliezer's guide on Baye's Theorem during fellowship and have been interested in AI and all things concerning the Singularity.
I lurk because I feel that I'm too philosophically fuzzy for some of the discussions here. I do learn a great deal. Anytime anyone wants to discuss prenatal diagnosis and the ethical implications, let me know.
Hello, I'm studying Bioengineering at ASU, in Arizona. Right now I'm in Finland for the year. It's been an utter blast. Cool people and life-improving experiences. I'm not sure I want to go back to the US..
I would love to learn more and more about status. That's currently the most interesting thing for me. It applies directly to me, right now, as I'm in a new group of people with lots of group interactions in Helsinki, Finland. I can use that information right now.
Not so interested in the probability discussions.. Perhaps those are more interesting to others, but I have read a few of them and subsequently skipped the rest.
Thanks for your time!
Not sure if I count as a lurker, since I've posted a few things here and there, but I've never introduced myself properly, so "Hi!"
I discovered LW via OB, which I discovered via researching Hanson's ideas on prediction markets... my primary interest is in Hanson-esque ideas on designing social institutions to be Less Wrong.
I've been gradually bringing myself up to speed on Eliezer's writings, and I am still somewhat skeptical on singularity-related issues, but less so than when I first started reading.
I have no impressive sounding credentials to my name... well, I have a B.S. in Computer Science, but I don't feel like that really counts as a qualification for the kinds of issues discussed here.
That's about all I can think of at the moment, introduction wise.... now where's my free karma point?! ;)
Hi. I work at a company that does statistical analytics for insurance companies. I've been following SL4 topics ever since I was 12, when I Asked Jeeves about the meaning of life and got a reasonable answer. I used to be a regular in the #SL4 IRC channel, but very rarely posted to the mailing list. I'm even more of a lurker here.


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Thank you for your cover story, "The Optimism Bias" [June 6]. The cover's subhead says, "Hope isn't rational so why are humans wired for it?" The answer is pretty obvious, not least in evolutionary terms: if we had nothing to look forward to, if we did not hope for the better, then life would have no meaning and we'd all curl up and die. That would be the end of our species.
James Derounian, CHELTENHAM, ENGLAND
The article on optimism made me think of some terrible situations people have faced, including the recent earthquake, tsunami and nuclear crisis in Japan. The report says that having hope is the key to optimism. I am afraid that hope alone is not enough, because it can lead to empty optimism. I want to add another word, fortitude, which gives us the ability to survive with optimism.
Mai Aoyama, TOMAKOMAI, JAPAN
That our brains are hardwired to be optimistic seems to explain why so many of us have no trouble believing in religious placebos, such as prayer, guardian angels and life after death.
Aaron Soans, MELBOURNE
Bibi the Provocateur
Over the years we have seen again and again that it is impossible for any U.S. politician to speak against Israeli interests [Bibi Provokes Barack, June 6]. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's recent speech to the U.S. Congress shows more explicitly than ever that U.S. policy in the Middle East is influenced by Israel.
Knut Anfindsen, STABEKK, NORWAY
Joe Klein says that President Barack Obama will not forget Netanyahu's provocative behavior. Neither should any of us. Obama's proposal was a genuine offer to revive the Middle East peace process, and it is only through mutual peace settlements with its neighbors that Israel can survive, prosper and regain its international standing as a democracy. Netanyahu assumes that the rest of the world will support Israel regardless of its actions on the West Bank. He hopes that he can goad the Palestinians into committing more terrorist activities so that he can secure international support for Israel and opposition to Palestine. Netanyahu's short-term policies will doom Israel to pariah status.
David Bowen, CANTERBURY, ENGLAND
Klein has said something that has been known for many years: "[Netanyahu] has the U.S. Congress in his pocket ..." That explains why Israel has gotten away with so many years of disregarding U.N. resolutions as it continues to build on what little land the Palestinian people are left with.
Mahomed Ladha, LONDON
The piece hits the proverbial nail on the head. Netanyahu's one and only goal is to stay in power for as long as possible. Hamas has declared it will continue its struggle to destroy Israel. We need America's help to push us to make peace as we don't have the moral courage to do it alone.
Ron Ziv, GESHER HAZIV, ISRAEL
Klein accuses Netanyahu of inappropriate behavior for clearly defining the Israeli borders. However, it is Obama's behavior that is inappropriate: How could an ally subject Israel to having indefensible borders? Well done, Bibi. You made us proud!
Yamin Cohen, JERUSALEM
Reconciling Faith
Re "Faith in the Arab Spring," [June 6]: Violence and disrespect all boil down to the thought that one religious belief is superior to another. This is an opportune time to change attitudes. Indeed, why not convert clashes to convergence? Let the defining Arab Spring bring forth a truly peaceful coexistence that we have all been praying for and craving for a long time. Let harmony prevail.
Tan Boon Tee, KEMAMAN, MALAYSIA
Through the media, we hear about a lot of conflicts: East vs. West, Christians vs. Muslims, Sunnis vs. Shi'ites, us vs. them. Yet we hear little about cooperation among different groups that are trying to solve problems and create fairer societies. It does nothing to promote understanding and tolerance. Thank you, Bruce Feiler, for doing that in your article.
Midge Janssen, PALMERSTON NORTH, NEW ZEALAND
Feiler proposes that the Arab Spring may be proof that Islam does not teach Muslims "to be hostile to freedom, pluralism and individualism," as Samuel Huntington has theorized. However, the revolutions taking place are in spite of Islam and its attempted preservation of the status quo. Islam has no place for women's rights or apostasy, while its clerics are vehemently opposed to secularism and social reform.
Salim Kaddoura, BEIRUT
Kissinger's Chinese Adage
In 10 Questions [June 6], former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger explains the Chinese way of thinking, saying that "no problem has a final solution; every solution is an admission ticket to another problem." The Americans should take heed and realize that there is no such thing as "mission accomplished" in the fight against terrorism.
Amyn Lakhani, MOMBASA, KENYA


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I've not a cheese expert, and never wrote a review of cheese before, but I bought some Abbaye Ste. Mere cheese from Trader Joe's, and at first I thought it has this faint/weird fishy bitter/sharp taste to it. Then as I slowly ate more and more, I knew what the flavor tasted like--chinese salted fish!
I discerned salted fish taste/flavor in this cheese, in a good way.
Abbaye de Ste. Mère
This Trappist cheese, made by the Sisters of the Abbaye de Belval, is for those who are not faint-of-heart, but who are also not expecting a washed-rind cheese to overwhelm. The happy medium - sweet, vegetal, zingy, pungent, and aromatic. Solid, smooth, semi-soft paste, the color of straw; the rind has the hue of light brown sugar. Made of raw cow's milk, aged for at least 60 days. From Normandie, France.


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