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Link Monitor Applet is a GNOME panel applet displaying the round-trip time to a set of hosts in a bar graph. Features include a line graph able to display up to one week of round-trip time data, country flags and names, full ICMP and ICMPv6 support, and HIG 2.0 compliance.
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Release Notes: The tooltip graphs have been merged into a single large, improved graph. Host colors are now configurable. The appearance of the applet has been improved. The preferences dialog has been improved. A number of minor issues have been fixed.
Release Notes: The applet icon is now displayed permanently. Bulgarian translations have been added.
Release Notes: Some build failures and one bug have been fixed.
Release Notes: The applet tooltip now displays the geographical location of hosts (country flag and name) as well as round-trip time graphs.
Release Notes: IP addresses are now resolved periodically. Some other minor fixes and cleanups have been performed.
A Fluent OpenStack client API for Java.
A TWiki appliance that is easy to use and lightweight.


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- Released: Dec 26, 2006
- Sound: 9
- Lyrics: 9
- Overall Impression: 8
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Sound — 9
After a 5-year hiatus, the Family Values Tour made it's long-awaited return to the concert circuit in 2006 with the creators of the tour, Korn, headlining the comeback. The accompanying live CD for the tour could have easily been just another in a long line of concert albums, but it does do a satisfying job of translating the intensity of the live show. On top of choosing a track list of entertaining cuts from the tour, it also features fantastic vocal clarity that isn't easy to get on a live CD. Even if you didn't get the opportunity to see this year's Family Values Tour, after hearing the 2006 live CD you might find yourself possibly wanting to check out the show when it hits your town next year. While other concert tours may only feature one song per band, the Family Values CD is able to fit a few songs from each of the main stage performers (Stone Sour, Dir en grey, and Flyleaf among them). This is a godsend if you only went to see the tour because of, say, Korn or Deftones in the first place and didn't necessarily want to sit through the set of one of others on the line-up. Korn is given the most time on the CD without a doubt, but the band did give birth to the tour, so I suppose they have the right to take up as much space as they'd like. Thankfully, frontman Jonathon Davis sounds better than ever, with his vocals even clearer than they were on Korn's latest DVD Live On The Other Side. There are several highlights on the record, but one stands out from the rest. Check out Shoots And Ladders/Wicked from Korn and featuring Chino Moreno from the Deftones. I can't recall if the song was done in the finale or not, but it's a high-energy track that epitomizes all that is memorable in a concert. The song starts out with Davis' trademark bagpipes and by the time it gets to the Wicked half, it quickly turns into a rapid-fire rap-metal fusion. The accompanying music is right on target, but it's the vocalists that really drive the song. Not all bands from the second stage have tracks on Family Values Tour 2006, with Bury Your Dead, Bullets and Octane, and Walls of Jericho left out of the mix. However, 10 Years has 2 solid tracks and Deadsy comes out fairly strong with Carrying Over. It would have been nice to hear at least one track from the bands that didn't make it on the record, but at the same time it does allow diehard fans of Korn to have another 5 live tracks from the band added to their CD library.
Lyrics — 9
The Family Values Tour has personified the feelings of angry youth for multiple years, and the 2006 live CD contains choice tracks to keep the tradition alive. Right Now by Korn starts the CD off with it's general pissed-off and discontented lyrical content. Davis sings, I'm feeling mean today; Not lost, not blown away; Just irritated and quite hated; Self control breaks down; Why's everything so tame? Sure, some might not call them the most unique words, but they are exactly what are needed to kick off the mood of a Family Values concert CD. A cool change comes with the Japanese band Dir en grey. The band's 2 featured tracks are both in Japanese and offer something culturally different, but the delivery still is as intense as the American bands on the bill. I was able to locate a translation of Dir en grey's Ryoujoku No Ame, and it keeps to the general discontented view heard in a lot of the CD's songs. Vocalist Kyo sings, My hope fades away from the angry tears; Even the strength to live; In a fit of passion I go crazy with grief; And so, I pray to the setting sun. In all honesty, it's just as interesting to hear the lyrics when they remain in their original Japanese language. It's all about the delivery.
Overall Impression — 8
In terms of audio quality, the vocals sound crystal clear, probably more so than if you heard them through the usual sound system in person. While the guitars and rhythm section don't ever reach the level of clarity as the vocals, at the same time they never get pushed to the very back or too muddy-sounding. While some listeners might accuse the Family Values Tour 2006 of having way too many Korn tracks on it, the band is still the main headliner. Korn did create the tour in the first place, and it's likely that the majority of Family Values attendees were interested in seeing Korn first and foremost. It's unfortunate that the Deftones couldn't have been given a bit more of the spotlight, however, because they absolutely hold their own against Korn. In the end, Korn is a pro when it comes to creating a memorable concert experience and the Family Values Tour 2006 CD is a fun way to relive it.

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It's no big secret anymore that Apple iPhone 6 releases are drawing near, with large 4.7 and 5.5-inch displays and numerous hardware upgrades in the cards. But maybe you prefer portability and a compact form factor over extra screen real estate and bulkiness. Or maybe you don't care to wait until September, possibly October, and want an iPhone now.
Finally, maybe you're on a tight budget and know full well "iPhablets" will start at $200 with two-year contracts at the very least. What do you do? Visit a Walmart shop and score a current-generation iPhone 5c or 5s on the cheap.
Specifically, at $29 or $99 respectively. With 24-month pacts, that goes without saying, on AT&T or Verizon (for the 5c), and AT&T, Verizon, Sprint or US Cellular (the 5s). Clearly, the discounts aren't major and we've seen better deals in the recent past via other retailers.
But the big upside here is Walmart's promotion has no expiration date. Besides, nabbing the two iOS-based handhelds from Apple's online store requires upfront payments of $99 and $199 respectively. We're of course talking 16 GB versions, with 32 gigs models also on sale at Walmart.
The specifics are however a little hazy vis-à-vis the 32 GB iPhone 5c and 5s, so just to be sure, ask someone at your local Walmart "dealership" about them. They might be hard to turn down, with all that extra storage space.
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Two common problems that arise in registering multiple measurements that obtain their values from an external component or resource are access cost and value integrity. To allow amortization of a single (possibly expensive) access across multiple related measurement samplings a Group interface is available in the Metrics Open API containing just a single method, prepare, that will be invoked before any associated measurements are sampled in a collection cycle.
How and when collections are performed is left to the underlying implementation of the Metrics SPI though it is expected that most implementations will use one or more polling threads to perform a single sample collection cycle across all registered metrics at fixed intervals with the contractual constraint that all Group instances have their prepare method invoked once in a cycle before their associated measurements are sampled.


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Philadelphia Downed 3-0 By Toronto - Vance Worley Takes Loss
Toronto's pitching staff did its job for UNDER bettors, holding Philadelphia scoreless in a 3-0 victory on Friday at Rogers Centre.
The Blue Jays were a -130 favorite in the win. The combined score dipped UNDER the total, which closed at 9.5.
Toronto got 2/3 innings from Drew Hutchison, who gave up 0 earned runs on 0 hits, while striking out 1. Carlos Villanueva earned the victory, while the Blue Jays got 1 RBI from Brett Lawrie in the win.
Philadelphia's starting pitcher Vance Worley worked 7 innings, giving up 5 hits and 1 earned run while striking out 5 in the loss. They got 1 hit from Jimmy Rollins in a losing cause.
The battle of the bats favored Toronto as they had 6 hits, while Philadelphia only had 5.
Casey Janssen pitched the final 1 inning for the save. He struck out 0 and allowed 1 hit in his outing.


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Now that we have touched a little bit on a few of the finer points of New York City for Easter, let's go ahead and move onto Central Park because that is where all of the fun happens. If you have kids, you definitely want to make sure to take them on over to the Easter egg hunt there.
However, you want to make sure that you are on the look out for little ones running around everywhere because I can tell you, that there are a ton of different kids running everywhere.
Now that you know where to take your kid's, where are you going to buy their chocolate? Well, La Maison du Chocolate is where you should buy their chocolate! This place has the best chocolate – hands down!


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ST. FLORIAN, Austria, March 13, 2013 - EV Group (EVG), a leading supplier of wafer bonding and lithography equipment for the MEMS, nanotechnology and semiconductor markets, today announced that it has installed a fully automated 300-mm system from EVG's Gemini® product family of integrated wafer bonding clusters to a leading Chinese semiconductor foundry. This customer will use the system for 3D IC integration and advanced packaging-two high-volume applications for which EVG's wafer bonding solutions have become the de facto industry standard.
"This order from one of the largest Chinese foundries further cements EV Group's position as the market and technology leader in wafer bonding for leading-edge applications," stated Hermann Waltl, executive sales and customer support director at EV Group. "China is an important market for us, and this order is further testament to our continued success in penetrating leading high-volume microelectronics manufacturers in China-from advanced substrate suppliers to light emitting diode (LED) and semiconductor device makers."
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EVG won this order following a competitive bid with other leading process equipment suppliers. Reasons cited by the customer for choosing EVG included high alignment accuracy, comprehensive process development and support, successful demo results in EVG cleanrooms, unmatched expertise in wafer bonding and other high-volume process solutions, and a technology roadmap that is strongly aligned with that of the customer. The EVG Gemini is a fully automated and integrated platform for wafer conditioning, wafer-to-wafer alignment and wafer bonding. This highly modular design provides customers with a highly flexible solution that can integrate all of EVG's technology solutions in one platform with minimized footprint. Configurations can include the option of EVG's clean modules, low temperature plasma activation modules, SmartView
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elen.ca is my way of bringing my love of electricity and electronics to a wider audience. On this site you can see some of the projects I or my students are working on as well as find resources to help you learn about electricity and electronics. You will find project updates or articles about things of interest on the blog. "Socrates" is a work in progress that will use the resources of and build upon the Socratic Electronics platform created by Tony Kuphaldt. Currently on that page, you can find a link to all of the Socratic Electronics worksheets as well as a link to my Electronic Concepts YouTube channel. In the future this page will allow you to create custom worksheets based on keyword/concept selection. I also do some consulting work and you can find out more of what I do in the "Consulting" section.
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Surgical Products asks manufacturers of equipment booms: What should surgical professionals consider of when purchasing equipment booms to ensure their OR is adaptable for future upgrades and updates?
May 17, 2010
Booms play an important role in delivering many critical services to the Operating Room and more importantly supporting the surgical team. From high definition video images to PACS, C-arm fluoroscopy, physiological vital signs, EMR and more, booms provide the conduit and ability to mount flat panel displays around the surgical field. Likewise, medical gases such as vacuum, carbon dioxide for insufflators and lasers, anesthesia gases, nitrogen gas to power tools such as orthopedics, neurosurgical and cardiovascular procedures, communication lines and power outlets are all necessary to support and care for the surgical patient.
These critical services are all dependent upon boom delivery systems to optimize flexible accessibility, while keeping the clutter of cables, cords, equipment and services off the floor.
Booms are delivered in various sizes and shapes. The larger the boom, the greater the clinical space required to utilize and maneuver the boom. Likewise for booms, ceiling mount location is critical to optimizing use and flexibility. Booms mounted against the wall or on one side of the room limit flexibility. Floorplans that include booms should be well thought out ahead of time to avoid extra costs that otherwise create multiple boom and services redundancy, extra clutter and cost.
Booms that can be mounted with Surgical or Emergency Lighting provide even greater flexibility options around the entire patient treatment area and can better reach key target support areas while avoiding redundancy costs. More importantly, greater positioning flexibility in OR floorplan design can reduce the number of booms required to adequately meet clinical needs, optimize efficiency and take up less room to work—delivering a more open and flexible floor plan.
Likewise, booms should be able to support HD flat panel displays and lightweight arm sets that are specifically designed to hold these displays and deliver proper cabling that is able to be stored vs. external and allow for future swap out expansion as technologies evolved and/or clinical needs change. This is also true of lighting systems. Today's surgical lights should be able to easily accommodate optional flat panel arm sets to provide more options for video displays in today's integrated Operating Room.
Not only does the boom arm need to be able to handle the cables and hoses of the different technologies today, but also leave you enough room for what we don't know will come tomorrow. This holds especially true for your flat panel arm systems, as many of these arms are of a much smaller diameter and with some video companies recommending that redundant cabling be installed up front, you could really be limited on space in the future for any additional cables.
Other considerations of booms are the importance of internal arm and bearing capacity to support today's OR communications and integration technologies…in addition to medical gas and electrical services. Likewise, smoke evacuation within the OR can be flexibly and more efficiently provided off the floor via boom delivery in supporting the surgical team.
Another thing to ensure future upgradability is the available additional outlets on the boom. Design capacity should provide for capability of handling customer's capacity list from the very beginning with additional, unused ones also available for the future, covered with blank plates. When the need arises for an additional outlet, the blank can simply be removed and the outlet added on-site.
Having an arm system that offers modularity plays an important role for future technologies as well, with the ability to alter or upgrade to future equipment carriers, flat panel display mounts, lighting and much more can help keep costs low when moving or upgrading to newer technologies.


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Hamsik to become 'world-class' after making £20m Man Utd, Chelsea or Arsenal move
MANCHESTER UNITED, Chelsea and Arsenal have been urged to make bids for Napoli star Marek Hamsik.
The 27-year-old is believed to be looking for a move away from Italy, and is valued at £20million by his club.
Hamsik has been in good form under Rafa Benitez this season, helping himself to five goals in 18 appearances.
However, the Slovakia international is desperate to try his hand in the Champions League, and isn't confident at Napoli's chances of qualifying for the competition next season.
Whilst Hamsik is willing to remain with the Serie A outfit for the remainder of the season, he is ready to force through a move to the Premier League.
Marek Hamsik has been tipped to leave Napoli
He would be able to play for any team in the world. If I had to recommend a player, it would be HamsiH
And super-agent Mino Raiola, who represents the likes of Paul Pogba and Zlatan Ibrahimovic, has told potential suitors that they would be signing a player of the highest quality if they make offers for the playmaker.
He said: "Marek is a great person, an amazing human. He has a great personality and as a player he is very close to Pavel Nedved.
"If he leaves Napoli, he would be able to play for any team in the world. If I had to recommend a player, it would be Hamsik.
"The problem is that [Napoli owner] Dino De Laurentiis does not want to sell him. I am convinced that Hamsik is not taking advantage of his full talents. He has the ability to be one of the best footballers in the world."


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Online support group for Russian LGBT teens acquitted of propaganda charges
Elena Klimova, who ran the Children 404 social media page, was accused of breaking the law by encouraging gay teens to believe homosexuality is normal
Good news might be scarce for Russian LGBTIs, but the founder of a gay teen online help group was released from propaganda charges today (21 February).
Elena Klimova, the founder of the group Children-404 which operates on Russian social network VK, was accused of breaking the law by encouraging teens to believe being gay is normal.
A journalist, she became notable in Russia after publishing a series of articles about a minor's homosexuality.
She began receiving letters from other youths who were facing bullying, oppression, and many were considering self-harm and suicide.
And that is when she decided to set up the online group, allowing others to share their stories to gay teens in Russia know they are not alone.
Following charges of propaganda, announced on 31 January, Children 404 was shut down.
In the legal papers, it was claimed Klimova broke the law by 'distorting the picture of society' and failed to protect children from harmful information. She would have faced up to a 100,000 roubles ($2,800, €2,100) fine.
But now, Klimova was acquitted of the charges by the Dzherskinskii district court of Nizhni Tagil.
In the court session, a Russian LGBT Network lawyer Maria Kozlovskaya proved Klimova did not register the group Children 404 but was just administrating it.
The judge ruled the materials published in Children 404 had nothing to do with the 'propaganda of homosexuality, but that this group is of great help for minors facing problems because of their sexual orientation and gender identity.
Klimova's lawyer said: 'We looked for such a decision and believe that it proves the incapacity and groundlessness of the so-called law about "propaganda of homosexuality".
'This law contradicts to some Russia's international obligations and, as it was proved by the decision of the UN Human Rights Committee, consolidates discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity, and violates the freedom of speech.'
Milonov, the Russian lawmaker and main sponsor for the 'gay propaganda' law, is appealing against the decision.


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Elegant eroticism is the focus of this audacious card. A vintage photograph of the classic combination of stockings and suspenders along with a shapely derriere bring a touch of glamour to its understated design.
Whilst the message on the front reads, 'Don't worry, it only seems kinky the first time', the card inside is blank for your own message or love letter. Comes complete with envelope.
Blending tasteful, erotic photography with provocative mottos and a vintage literary aesthetic, Quite Lovely's range of romantic greetings cards make the perfect addition to any lover's gift.
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8 March 2006
Coastal carbon sinks are shrinking
MANGROVE forests play a major role in pumping carbon from the atmosphere into the ocean, and may help regulate greenhouse gas concentrations. The trouble is, they are disappearing.
Mangroves are the intertidal forests that fringe many tropical coastlines. Like all plants, mangroves fix carbon dioxide from the air through photosynthesis and return organic material to the soil when they decompose. But because their roots and soil are regularly washed by tides, much of this organic carbon leaches into the ocean.
Researchers led by Thorsten Dittmar of Florida State University in Tallahassee measured how much mangroves contribute to the organic carbon dissolved in ocean waters off the coast of Brazil. They estimated that, worldwide, mangroves contribute a hefty 10 per cent to the ocean's dissolved organic carbon (Global Biogeochemical Cycles, DOI: 10.1029/2005GB002570).
This is roughly equal to the amount entering the ocean from the Amazon river, the largest single source


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Ford (NYSE:F) had never shown so much of interest in China until in the recent past when the company started registering incredible growth. Volkswagen (VLKAY) and General Motors (NYSE:GM) have been the biggest foreign auto giants in this emerging nation. In comparison Ford is a tiny player, but it's sensing tremendous potential in this market where auto sales are estimated to shoot.
China calling
The budding nation's auto industry grew at an unbelievable rate of 24% between 2005 and 2011, and in 2010 the country's auto sales surpassed that of the U.S. to become the world's largest car market. The mainland has become the dream destination for any auto major.
According to McKinsey, sales gain is expected to mellow down to 8% a year, and in 2020 China's car sales are estimated to hit the 22 million mark. This is still higher than any developed economy including the U.S. and Europe. This is precisely why carmakers are concentrating on this growing region and pouring in billions to set up more facilities and augment capacity to cater to the rising demand.
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The Blue Oval's February feat
The second largest U.S. automaker along with its joint venture in China delivered 73,040 vehicles in February, up 67% on a year on year basis. The Detroit giant makes vehicles in collaboration with local players Chongqing Changan Automobile Co Ltd, and Jiangling Motors Corp. The past few months have seen staggering sales gain with December reporting 35% jump, and January registering a handsome 53% rise. In the current year, Ford has sold 167,506 cars or 59% more than what it sold in the first two month of last year.
Almost the entire credit goes to Ford Focus, the top selling nameplate of 2013. Ford Mondeo is also witnessing spectacular response from Chinese buyers. Undoubtedly such solid performance in the first two month is a big boost to the automaker that now expects to sell more than a million vehicles here through the year. This is quite an improvement given the meager scale at which Ford used to earlier operate in the country.
Make hay when the sun shines
With encourage outlook in China, Ford is pursuing to increase its footprints in the country. The carmaker is investing $100 million in the R&D facility situated at Nanjing. The company would employ 200 employees every year through 2018. The move is part of Ford's expansion plan of increasing work capacity and setting up two new facilities at Chongqing by this year end. Additionally, Ford partnered with telecom giant China Mobile (NYSE:CHL) to integrate the Lingxi and Fetion apps in Ford Focus and Ford Fiesta by this year end.
Last word
China is a huge platform for the company as it offers great opportunity to the automakers. But the fact that Ford is not the only carmaker eyeing a bigger pie, and that competition is getting fierce can't be disregarded. This adds a lot of spice to the situation. What remains to be seen is whether Ford would be able to tackle its growing success in the mainland while competition intensifies.


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Protest Fears & the Relocation of the G8 Summit to Camp David
The Obama Administration recently announced the G8 summit would be moved from Chicago to the secluded Camp David. For most of Chicago, the announcement was confounding. The city had been preparing for months and now, just over two months before the summit was to take place, Mayor Rahm Emanuel lost the privilege to host the summit and show off the city to some major world leaders.
The statement the White House initially issued on the venue change claimed the change was made "to facilitate a free-flowing discussion" with America's "close G-8 partners." A day later President Barack Obama elaborated during a press conference:
This was an idea that was brought to me after the initial organizing of the NATO summit. Someone pointed out that I hadn't had any of my counterparts, who I've worked with now for three years, up to Camp David. G-8 tends to be a more informal setting in which we talk about a wide range of issues in a — in a pretty intimate way. And the thinking was that people would enjoy being in a more casual backdrop.
I think the weather should be good that time of year. It will give me a chance to spend some time with Mr. Putin, the new Russian president.
I always have confidence in Chicago being able to handle security issues. Whether it's the Taste of Chicago or Lopalooza or Bulls championships, we know how to deal with the crowd. And, I'm sure that your new mayor will be quite attentive to detail in making sure that everything goes off well. [Note: Obama botched the name of the music festival, which is Lollapalooza.]
Ignoring whatever "intimate" talk Obama has planned when he gets together in a setting with a "more casual backdrop" with President Vladimir Putin, there is a key distinction to be made between music and sports events that attract crowds and political meetings that attract crowds: crowds at the aforementioned music and sports events do not present any challenge to power. They are not there to assert any rights other than their "right" to party (which sometimes can get out of hand).
There is no growing outcry against potential attendees when music or sports events come to town. Though they may present the exact same potential for riots and unruly behavior because intoxicated individuals may cause property damage and even start fights, the press will not act as an echo chamber for the fears of local area business owners and city officials afraid of what might happen when citizens exercise their First Amendment rights.
The crowds are also different in that one group is wholly supportive of the events being held in the city while crowds at political meetings are typically opposed to all players involved in making the event possible. They don't like that the leaders came to the city and would like to run them out of town.
Let's pause for a moment and consider the following: Why would these leaders be unwelcome? And, what is the G8?
It is a group of eight of the richest countries in the world: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, Canada, Russia and the United States. China, Brazil, Mexico, India and South Africa are excluded but part of the "Outreach Five."
The G8 is composed of leaders known to promote austerity. They push neoliberal policies and contribute to crises in the "eurozone." As Mark Weisbrot of the Center for Economic Policy & Research has said, they squeeze the economies of Greece, Portugal, Ireland and Spain and drive up unemployment. They "drag out the recession" and fail to offer any alternative.
It is a group of countries that chose to increase funding to the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2010 instead of investing more aid to fight hunger and poverty in Africa. It is a group that is increasingly seen as neocolonial as it makes decisions that directly impact some of the most marginalized and poor countries of the world. It is a group that should be urgently addressing worldwide climate change yet it is more concerned with preserving global capitalism. And, it is a group that has dodged and repeatedly ignored the impact of their decisions and inaction on key issues of the world.
That said, it makes perfect sense that Obama would have the G8 moved to Camp David.
The move makes one wonder why the Obama Administration ever granted Chicago the opportunity to host in the first place. It makes one wonder why the Administration would ever want the summit to happen at any other setting than Camp David.
If the world's leaders can meet out of sight and out of mind without fear of being held up or confronted by protesters, if they can lay back and talk international politics amongst their elite selves, giving a mayor the chance to show off his ability to host a global summit should be a liability never taken.
Economic and military elites should meet in private. It is not like they have the guts to have face time with any of the leaders of groups most opposed to the agendas and policies they promote, which is why it is tough to argue protest leaders are incorrect to suggest fear of protests played a role in the decision to move the summit.
Joe Iosbaker of the Coalition Against the NATO/G8 War and Poverty Agenda said, according to the Associated Press, "It's a major victory for those of us who are planning these protests…The administration is taking G-8 someplace where they won't have to face the people who suffer under their policies."
National Nurses United spokesperson Chuck Idelson, who planned to be joining demonstrations, said, "It is certainly striking that whoever made this decision, whether it was the Obama administration or the city of Chicago, would make a decision to isolate the world leaders and move an event out of third-largest city in this country and hide the world leaders in rural Maryland in a place that's inaccessible to the public."
And, Occupy Chicago declared, as the Occupied Chicago Tribune reported:
The G8 moving to Camp David represents a major victory for the people of Chicago. The leaders of the 1% are moving because of the overwhelming resistance to the NATO/G8 war and poverty agenda in Chicago. Our city is filled with tens of thousands of people who are struggling to keep their heads above water, fighting against the effects of the economic crisis caused by the leaders who would have been gathering here. The communities of Chicago are fighting to save their schools, keep healthcare available, and to defend their jobs from cutbacks that are a hallmark of the governments of the G8.
As someone who was tracking the buildup to the summit, it was pretty clear that there was a lot of animosity toward the city of Chicago for bringing the G8 to Chicago because it would likely bring with it the chaos of protests. Though Chicago police chief Garry McCarthy and a few other leaders in the city tried to calm business owners and members of the press, hysteria still spread.
Out of the hysteria came fears that feces or urine would be thrown at police by anarchist protesters so the police had to buy new special riot gear for protection. Then, the fear of horses mounted police being attacked led to the purchase of riot helmets and other equipment for the horses. Then, apartment building owners feared they could be "residual targets" and incur "collateral damage" so they were offered training on how to "keep tear gas out of the buildings." Then, Sears announced it would be putting up plywood to prevent windows from being broken. Chatter about the courts being closed for fear of safety circulated too.
But, perhaps, the peak of insanity came when the city put out a call for bids on a contract for "blast resistant" trashcans because they wanted to reduce the possibility of fatalities during a potential terror attack. The contractors were told to submit "pre- and post-detonation photos along with video footage" when they submit their bids to prove the quality of their cans. They were also told the receptacles must "have the capacity to contain and mitigate six pounds of pure TNT placed inside the receptacle."
When would the authoritarian shopping spree end?
The host committee wanted businesses to stick around and help during the summit. But, with all the frenzied uproar about protesters descending on Chicago to not simply protest but also potentially destroy every owner's piece of storefront property in downtown, the business executives were saying they intended to get out of town. They even considered putting their employees up in hotels for the weekend so they did not have to worry about them getting hurt going to and from work.
Business pressure may have resulted in the venue move. The hysteria that businesses, the police union president and others were fostered possibly contributed to the change. And, unfortunately, the phobia these businesses have for democracy is likely to persist.
The plan had been to host both the NATO and G8 summits together May 19 through May 21. The NATO meeting is still happening and the abrupt change in venue has not been met with calls from protest groups to relocate planned demonstrations to some site near Camp David.
Plans were made to mobilize in Chicago. While numbers may be lower now that both summits are not being held in the same city, police will still have to deal with massive demonstrations. They may have a "bad day" and violate the rights of protesters. This might be passed off as a result of not having enough training" or "preparation" for the protests. Whatever happens, thousands of protesters will still be out protesting what Andy Thayer, lead organizer of the planned protests, calls the "military arm of the G8."
Now here is a Storify I produced on how Rahm Emanuel lost the G8. I had been putting this together for the past few weeks. While the preparations specific to the G8 may become irrelevant quickly, the protest restrictions and the hysteria around mass protests will remain relevant as the date of the NATO meeting approaches.


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This is madness central. The next two sections are just coincidental.
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The madness place or spark hyperfocus, is a term for that state of mind achieved when an individual is actively Sparking. It is characterized by an intense focus on the problem at hand, to the exclusion of minor details like common sense - a Frankensteinian exaggeration of the real-life phenomena of hyperfocus. The term was first used by Dimo to describe Agatha here. ✣
Behavior Edit
As represented in the comic, sparks in their fugue state experience three emotional states that are indicated by changes in both their facial expression and their voice, as may be seen through changes in the spark's word balloons.
An example of this progression happens early in the story, when Gil examines a seriously flawed test device.[1] Sparks' peculiar charisma also appears to be linked to this madness. Gilgamesh appears to consciously shift into Phase 3 to crush Ardsley Wooster's will,[2] and use of Lucrezia Mongfish's command voice involves speaking in at least Phase 2 ✣ .
Phase 1 is indicated by a "Sparky" font in otherwise normal word balloons.
Sparks in Phase 1 are capable of conducting research and engaging in deep concentration,[3] but are not yet manic.
That said, the majority of instances of Phase 1 in the comic are very short and usually just an indication that the Spark in question is ramping up to more extreme states, such as when Agatha witnesses ✣ a close friend's death.
Phase 2 is the most common, recognizable state, involving obviously enhanced creativity and cackling madness. The majority of Sparks in phase 2 demonstrate extremely poor emotional control and are generally manic, either enthusiastically happy ✣ or ballistically ✣ angry ✣ .
In phase 2, the font is "sparky font" and the word balloons have a highly irregular outline; characters in Phase 2 are also usually rendered with more extreme, very toothy, facial expressions.
This state may be the most common one for sparks to work in, but it can still be a very frightening thing to witness (Gil's breakdown, the first one observed in the comic, is particularly violent).
Sparks in Phase 2 tend to view everything and everyone around them as tools. They also seem to forget ✣ any danger ✣ they may be in and show no concern for their physical wellbeing ✣ or that of their surroundings.
Phase 3 is rarely seen and appears to occur only when the spark is extremely angry; it has generally tended to manifest as an active homicidal battle-rage aimed at specific targets[4][5][6]
The majority of sparks shown in phase 3 in the comic have exited it violently— the notable exception is Gilgamesh, but he may have been faking it.
It looks and sounds like phase 2, only moreso--speech bubbles may now include fragmented edges and large bold Spark-font, and the expression of fury is even more exaggerated.
Sparky speech bubbles are not sufficient evidence that an individual is in the madness place or a spark, as characters without the spark ✣ have displayed distorted comic balloons, when they are really angry or under extreme emotional stress ✣ . Certain constructs, like the Jägers, sport warped bubbles all de time ✣ .
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Phase 2, which equates to a stereotypical cackling mad scientist, appears to be the standard mode of operation for sparks. Hyperfocus tends to be triggered either by emotional upset or by concentration, and sparks quickly move into Phase 2 after a short ramp-up in Phase 1. Sparks tend to drop out of Phase 2 to sanity (or what passes for it) once the stimulus is removed or if they are sufficiently distracted, but Sparks in Phase 3 usually need to be knocked out of it; Agatha is brought down through the influence of carefully formulated baked goods, Baron Wulfenbach through the power of the falling sky. ✣
Exceptional Sparks seem to have finer control over the state, and consequently can move in or out of the deeper phases as necessary. This level of skill is not common enough to prevent horrible outbreaks of War. Alternatively, Sparks may play up the well-known signs of madness in order to intimidate minions into doing what they need. Also, whenever they do this they risk working themselves up into a genuine fury.
The Madness Place apparently can be forced by methods of mind control, as the "measures" that Baron Wulfenbach inflicted on his son Gil to prevent manipulation by The Other seem to have locked him in a continuous madness place.
- ↑ That it was an intentional hoax apparently made ✣ no difference.
- ↑ Widely considered one of his crowning moments of awesomeness ✣ .
- ↑ Prince Aaronev VI receives reports ✣ while working.
- ↑ Agatha prepares to send Klaus to the realm of never, ever again ✣ .
- ↑ Gil smacks ✣ Vole around.
- ↑ Gil, several seconds after being shot point blank, tosses an at-least-several-hundred-pound, piloted battle clank ✣
Evidently, I'm there, right now. Related to Mad:The Madness Place. Sorry for the content-wise null edit. — Zarchne 23:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I cannot add anything to this page without going through the whole "add-a-topic" process. That, by the way, brings me to what I really wanted to ask. How does one find a Reference List in order to edit same? Billy Catringer 17:48, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
- The page edit is in a drop-down menu -- click the arrow to the right of "Add Topic".
- The reference list is generated automatically from the "ref" tags scattered through the page. You need to find the correct "ref" tag and edit it.
- Argadi 18:25, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Now I can hunt down and kill that annoying squinting modifier. Billy Catringer 00:17, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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stmicro has signed on to build cards with the kyro iii and kyro iv. the kyro iii will supposedly feature four rendering pipelines, which should put it in the mix with the radeon 2. nvidia is playing some hardball with microsoft, apparently. if true, it sounds like future nvidia cards could have some issues with directx 9 when it comes out if the dispute isn't resolved. is nvidia powerful enough to splinter microsoft's directx? on another note, if you are looking for a budget video card check out the ace's hardware 2001 budget video roundup. also read about laptop video cards on geek.
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|kyro 2 drivers (7:29am est fri jun 29 2001)
does anybody know if there is a linux driver for the kyro 2 or has anyone one being planned? – by odinboy
|post (7:32am est fri jun 29 2001)
that came out roung – by odinboy
|huh? (10:14am est fri jun 29 2001)
what happened to the kyro ii? haven't seen these cards yet, and already the kyro 3 and 4 coming out? – by hohum
|yea… (5:35pm est fri jun 29 2001)
i was waiting for reviews of these cards. but they just never seemed to be released. never saw any on a shelf anywhere either.i would like to see microsoft have to bend a little. instead it is us that has to bend – by ben dover
|nvidia ownz (8:12am est sat jun 30 2001)
nvidia cards own you. i have heard a lot of good stuff about radeons though…my friend is stuck with some lame card by ibm that came with his computer, and the people at ibm claim it's the best video card someone can get! he doesn't have enough money of his own to buy one and his parents wouldn't buy it for him. any suggestions? – by ps2 sucks
|re: nvidia ownz (1:10pm est mon jul 02 2001)
dl a overclocker for your friends vid card. try 3dfiles.com, i dont know if that helps. – by de@d st0p
|more competion (3:29pm est tue jul 03 2001)
nvidia cards are hot, but we should encourage competion. i'm definitely going to seriously check out these new guys. i suggest everyone do the same.` – by jonafi
|ohh the joy (10:53pm est wed jul 04 2001)
this is freaking hilarious i think micro soft in the end will be the one to have to bend over and take it like a b–ch other wise they will lose a lot of ground in the api market one ther is always open glide and 2 arent a bunch or vid card companies working on another api called openmlit. correct me if im wrong – by f-u
|you guys what to know something wierd (11:02pm est wed jul 04 2001)
most agp cards today say they are only for 2x-4x agp slots (like the gf2ultra)
how ever my gf2u is is runnig on a 1x bus speed and i cant figure out how to change it in the bios ive looked but see no place to adjust this at and i was wondering if it would boost my performance any.. but it does run fine on a 1x bus (that is what i think is wierd) also my bus is suposed to be adjustable from 1x to 2x and my main board is a msi k7 pro (for classic athlons only) – by f-u
|getting agp nx up (11:08am est wed jul 25 2001)
elementary, mdw, it's the old athlon agp bug! besides, the agp rate is usually set from the os (mb/vid chipset drivers. do a search on… agp, athlon and irongate, and you'll probably find something that helps… – by ek
|video cards (9:53pm est thu feb 26 2004)
i think they are hot and any guy with a video card is hot. i am single does omeone what to meet up and talk about video cards i need to know two main types. plz – by sexywrangergirl
|cams (2:35am est tue may 02 2006)
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Recent findings from the American Academy of Otolaryngology, which have been published in their journal, Otolaryngology - Head and Neck Surgery, shows that upwards of 76 percent of patients with chronic rhinosinusitis (CRS) experienced significant quality of life improvements after undergoing endoscopic sinus surgery (ESS).
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It's a sure bet Calle Johansson will get excited about the prospect of Alexander Ovechkin going to the Washington Capitals as the first pick in the NHL entry draft in June.
Just not now.
Johansson, a 37-year-old Maple Leafs defenceman who is on leave from his job as a scout with the Caps, has more pressing concerns. Johansson left the slower pace of scouting on March 9 and signed with the Leafs to try to win his first Stanley Cup.
"I just found out (about the Caps winning the draft lottery to get the first pick) and right now it is not on my mind," Johansson said. "I am where I want to be (entering the playoffs). I feel really good about it."
Johansson played in just the final eight games of the regular season for the Leafs, and although much was rightly made of the addition of Brian Leetch to the blue line, Johansson's signing could turn out to be a minor stroke of genius by general manager John Ferguson Jr. Johansson's smart decisions have been welcome in the defensive zone and he has taken some of the load off Tomas Kaberle, who has failed to meet expectations this season. That Johansson, who had six assists, has been able to pick up without missing a beat has been an eye-opener to his teammates.
"I am surprised that someone could take that much time off and make it look like he has been playing a regular shift throughout the year," Leetch said. "It has been amazing."
Even coach Pat Quinn has been impressed.
"He has done much better than you would have expected," Quinn said. "You try to get your timing and get used to being in the right spots. His experience helps him there."
That's what Johansson, whose plan to be sitting at the Capitals draft table in a couple of months has not changed, is banking on.
"I have been around quite a bit," Johansson said. "Hopefully I can trust myself and lean back on that. I'm just going to do whatever they ask me to do. It is a team game and I am one piece of the puzzle, whether I play five minutes or 20 minutes or whatever. It's a great team and I have been able to fit in pretty good."
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If there is something this opinion piece is showing is that there are too many good games and I can't get to them all. I actually think I read someone saying something about the game developers of this genre not being that great; I disagree. Sure I want someone to recreate Maniac Mansion in a big way but I don't have time to play all the games I have at this time.
Currently I keep a stack of games out which drives me crazy. I used to beat a game like Double Dragon, Mario Bro's (1, 2, 3), Contra and ect; I would beat one before moving on. At this moment I am playing XCOM Enemy Unknown, Deadrising 2 (both versions), Dragon's Dogma, Boarderlands 2, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead (both PS3 versions), Dishonored, and a few others. The point is that there too many reasons I'm not beating them, not getting to see the end result, "the cream". And these reasons include many games being too long and too many great games coming out to close together. And then there are games like Dead Island Riptide and Mass Effect 3 where I would rather bring my previous character into the new seen but no cause my previous PS3 broke down and I lost a ton of data. Also, games that I really appreciate like the Fallouts and Skyrim didn't allow me to purchase the add-on until latter, which is why I am also playing Skyrim again.
I have to honestly thank some game makers like Naughty Dog for bringing Uncharted to the gaming world; a game I beat overnight. Another would be Quantic Dreams, "I truly see why they think a gamer should play the game once through." They give you a true once in a lifetime play through and Heavy Rain was awesome but again I beat it. And that I can appreciate; can't wait to play their next game, "Beyond Two Souls." This only proves that I will continue picking up more games.
I am a hard core gamer and am having a hard time seeing an end to this madness. With the PS4 coming out this addiction of mine will most likely increase. I currently have well over 60 PS3 games on disk and over 40 more downloaded. I have the need to try them all even if they are bad. I am a 35 year old gaming junkie that is having a difficult time reaching the pinnacle (the ending, game over) of the games. Hopefully with the PS4's ability to let your friends take over your game for a while will allow me some piece of mind.
So I will go on record saying that there are too many good games even in this generation and if you don't agree it's because you haven't played as many as me. I do not see an end of this gaming madness and my chance of beating all my games to the end will only happen after I pass on to the next world. That's right my games are going to the after- life with me. Oh yeah, and bring me another Maniac Mansion!
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[Opinion] Too Many Great Games, Too Little Time
Last edited by Sir_Scud; 05-29-2013 at 04:28.SinCerely, sAiNt sNaKe
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Saying you beat Uncharted overnight reminded me of the time I played through Metal Gear Solid all the way through in a night. Such a fun time that even my siblings watched it through with me. I applaud you in your PS3 physical and digital library. Pretty impressive. This has been entered.
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Thanks, now I'm thinking I should try to beat Metal Gear Solid. LOL. I figured it may take me longer than a night but guess I should start it back up.SinCerely, sAiNt sNaKe
05-30-2013 #4
You know, I visit this site quite often but never took part in any of the forums; it is mostly my fault, because I was going off the lack of intelligence shown in the article comments sections. I am glad that I explored the site more, for I am enjoying what I have been reading.
Great post!
05-30-2013 #5
Yeah Ryan, it should be noted that most of the people who post in the article comments are not regulars here on the forums. Introduce yourself to the welcome thread if you already haven't, you'll be greeted by some of the nicest members ever!
05-30-2013 #6
Thanks Ryan and Sir_Scud is right. I am not always on the post either but I felt this was a cool competition and used it to get my kid reading and writing. Also, I wanted to let everyone here know my kid and I played Dead Rising 2 for most of the day. I felt accomplish when I saw the credits roll. And then boom a whole load of easy task and then TK. My kid froze up, not sure why and I died. We took about 1/2 TK's life but at last I was burned out after the first 8 hours. So guess I haven't beaten it yet but I think I'm at the end. This reminds me of Wolverine; got to Dead Pool but just can't seem to beat him. Not saying TK is that hard but I got burned on the game for today.SinCerely, sAiNt sNaKe
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Like they say, time is money. And the time spent playing games...could be money making instead, sorry gamers.
But yeah I have a huge backlog that I want to get through, so this year I've only purchased like maybe 5 games so far, and they are specific games that I expect good things from, and deliver. But in the past I'd just buy buy buy, and my collection is pretty bad, I didnt realize I had spent that much. Then it's weird, when I want to start that backlog, I go and play other games I've already beaten just because they were so good. And I'll have to admit, I have a modded wii, and with a huge log of 200 games, I ended up not playing a single one. So in a way, buying games, because ps3 isnt technically mod-able pushes you to actually play them. But majority of the time, these good games that you don't intend to buy, hits a price drop a month after release that you can't resist buying.
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Yeah..I tend to buy more games than I do finishing them or getting far into them. If I see a deal, I'll usually jump on a game. And sometimes that means I don't get to it for months or barely touch it.
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hahaha, I still have Folklore unopened.....and I still REALLY want to play it =P
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What I was thinking was, Folklore should've been the Pokemon Master of Smash Bros in Playstation All Stars, be perfect.
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I have played through quite a bit of folklore and really like that game as well. Sometimes I wonder if I'll ever get to the end of it?SinCerely, sAiNt sNaKe
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Rumours of Bollywood actors Arjun Kapoor and Athiya Shetty being in a relationship have been doing the rounds for a long time. But, the "Ki and Ka" actor has recently rubbished the reports and said that it is embarrassing to get linked to a known person.
The 30-year-old actor clarified his relationship with Suniel Shetty's daughter. "She (Athiya) is my sister's friend. People forget that you can have friends in the industry and that it is a normal thing. I have known her for many years. I don't understand why there is (a) sudden speculation," Arjun told the Press Trust of India.
"But it is embarrassing to get linked to someone you have known for a long time. She (Athiya) is a sweet girl," the actor added. Arjun has been linked to many actresses in the past, including his "Tevar" co-star Sonakshi Sinha.
He also said that media gets paid for publishing such news as it is their job and it doesn't spoil any relationship as the celebs know the truth. "Media saw us (Athiya and I) together at a party so it (dating rumours) all started. It is part and parcel of the film industry. The speculation is normal. I am getting used to it as that it is how things happen," Arjun told PTI.
Earlier, Athiya had reacted to the dating rumours. "I don't take linkup rumours seriously as long as I, my family and close ones know the truth. I don't give any thought to it," Athiya had told PTI. "My father has been in the industry for so long and he understands that all these things come with a celebrity status. We don't give any importance to it. Such reports don't make our dinner table conversations," she had further said.
Meanwhile, Arjun has been appreciated for his performance in Kareena Kapoor Khan-starrer "Ki and Ka" and he will soon start shooting for "Half Girlfriend." Athiya made her Bollywood debut with "Hero" last year and fans are eager to see the actress on-screen again.
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I was worried when I saw these temps:
Idle 0.05%: 40-50
Load: 100%: 70-85
I think something has gone wrong between heatsink and CPU but I'm going to ask if these are normal before I take it apart again.
This was on a stock heatsink for a build for a family member that wanted to use a stock heatsink and wasn't interested in OC'ing. At full load 100% 3791.45mhz the temps on all cores (maximum) as reported by Realtemp are:
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The maximum worried me but the idle worried as well. At first boot after build it would idle around 40-50 for each core. After installing a bunch of patches, service packs, running Prime 95 overnight, the temps at idle (0.05% load) went down to 22 32 29 23 at most minimum. Now it hvoers around 26 37 34 30. If that's break-in from AS5, that was fast. I'm not sure how much AS5 is supposed to lower after break-in but it can't be that impressive right? To go from 40-50 to 20-40 in a day? That second core always runs hotter than others but I'm told that is normal by Google.
Are high load temps out of line? Should I re-do the thermal paste and heatsink installation? I just want confirmation that 70-80 is normal, I used to see 30 idle and 50 max on a stock heatsink.
If you want a full diatribe on how it's OK for Ivy Bridge to run hotter, there are *ahem* folks who will do that, but to me, that feels a little bit high for me. It sounds like you already ditched the stock TIM for something better, so you're all set there.
I will say that with an aftermarket cooler, at stock speeds, I didn't even get to 50C. With a Coolermaster 212+, which is granted better than stock. Load was around 42-43C tops at stock 3.4/3.8 GHz.
On the stock cooler (have yet to install my 212+) I'm getting ~30C. You should look into reapplying your thermal compound.
On the stock cooler (have yet to install my 212+) I'm getting ~30C. You should look into reapplying your thermal compound.Is that at idle or at load? What do you get at 100% load?
I'm using a Corsair H100 for cooling my i5-3570k, but I'm running it at the lowest setting for noise considerations.
Asus software says I'm at 28C on the motherboard and 26C on the CPU while I write this post at idle. RealTemp is reporting <30C temps across the cores.
When I startup IntelBurnTest, core temps rise to 55C.
The differences in core temps between the cores is normal. I've always seen certain cores being higher/lower than the others. The ones in the "middle" of the CPU package are going to be hotter.
Like you, I saw a massive decrease in temperatures over the first day I spent testing my CPU. I was hitting 85+ when I had it running at 4.4Ghz under load and now I don't hit 75 when hitting 4.5GHz under load. Part of it is the thermal paste and part of it was the front intake fans I added (they lowered motherboard temps 8C at load in addition to the CPU dropping 2-3C as well).
BTW, what made you buy an i5-3570K for a family member not interested in overclocking? Why not the cheaper i5-3570 non-K part or the i5-2500 non-K?
lobobo wrote:
On the stock cooler (have yet to install my 212+) I'm getting ~30C. You should look into reapplying your thermal compound.Is that at idle or at load? What do you get at 100% load?
That's at idle, sorry for lack of specification. I haven't done proper load testing yet as I was waiting to get my 212+ installed before doing any of that. Playing BF3 though, it was hovering in the low 60s.
Is your Tjmax temp set correctly? I think that realtemp measures from tjmax (which is a constant for each family of CPU's), so that might skew your readings.
Tjmax for ivy bridge is 105C
Just a thought.
What's your ambient temperature?
Assuming normal American household ambient temps of 20~25C for most of us, that does sound a little high by about 10-15C.
How some people end up with 50C load temps has always eluded me, but then I remember I run virtually 100% of my personal systems overclocked, so I forget what stock temps look like.
BTW, what made you buy an i5-3570K for a family member not interested in overclocking? Why not the cheaper i5-3570 non-K part or the i5-2500 non-K?They just wanted the new stuff. I was in charge of ordering both their CPU and mine on release date. At release I didn't see anything other than the K parts, we decided to just go ahead and order it since it was cheap at $200.00, stores were marking it up at $250.00 so the $200.00 price was cheap and I figured if they waited just to get a non-K part they might end up paying more than the discount price for the K part.
Playing BF3 though, it was hovering in the low 60s.I just did some prime testing on it like half an hour ago and it reaches into the low 80's, high 70's. I'm definitely going to re-do the thermal paste.
Is your Tjmax temp set correctly? I think that realtemp measures from tjmax (which is a constant for each family of CPU's), so that might skew your readings.Hey thanks for that heads up, yeah it is set to 105. I checked RealTemp right now and all cores show 105 as tjmax.
What's your ambient temperature?I'm not sure. It's certainly not hot at all where I am. Actually it's a bit on the cold side. For some reason I don't think the ambient temp is affecting it simply because it's not hot at all.
For my I5-3570k at (mostly) idle
CPU is 30 degrees C
Mobo 26 degrees C
Ambient around 20 degrees
shmooster wrote:
For my I5-3570k at (mostly) idle
CPU is 30 degrees C
Mobo 26 degrees C
Ambient around 20 degrees
Yep, that's about right for me. 21C ambient. I've also got a Carbide 500R case that helped keep my PC cooler than my older case did (about a 5C difference). Later this week I may get around to installing my 212+ and OCing so I'll update with those temps later.
Alright, so I reapplied. It looked a bit too much which is surprising because it looked fine at application time. This time I did a thinner line. Oh and I forgot to mention that the stock heatsink copper base has dents in it. Serious dents. I found two that are roughly the size of a grain of sand and they go in deep maybe a grain of sand or half deep. I didn't think it would interfere with temps at the time that much but AS says even a piece of lint can do it.
Results: BIOS/UEFI has this single temperature value for CPU as opposed to each core individually. Maybe it's an average, I don't know. Well that thing dropped 4c. Cool. Fire up Windows, check RealTemp and it's the same as before. Between 75-85 while doing Prime95 at 3791.45mhz. Maximum so far is 82 87 87 82.
Sigh. I don't know what to say at this point. My guesses are:
1. Maybe break-in will drop temps 20c ( ).
2. Maybe this chip is a bum chip? Maybe it has a defect at the TIM between die and IHS? Maybe they squirted the TIM too far to the left/right.
3. The AS5 is old 3 or 4 years. Maybe it "changed." I'll probably re-do it with equal aged Ceramique in the hopes that it didn't "change" if it hasn't resolved in a day or 2.
4. This could be normal but I don't think so. I'm not sure how high BF3 ramps the CPU and whether it puts it in turbo mode but even if it did is turbo +400mhz raising the temps 20c higher than BigKoss? I don't know about that. The idle temps seem fine, it's just the damn load temps that are killing me here. This might be normal but it seems scary for someone to use a CPU 20c from tjmax. During summer will it be 10c from tjmax?
Because the load temps are the only thing I'm worried about I'm suspecting it might be normal and they might have given a stock heatsink just enough to operate it within thermal specifications since 80 is not 105. It's still operating within specs, it's just not comfortable. Or maybe there's something wrong between the interface where they mate that can't transfer heat fast enough (I.E.: My thermal paste, their TIM between die and IHS).
I only have 30 days since purchase date to do an exchange so I might have to although I really don't want to since they don't want to be without a PC but that's tough. I'm hoping there's isn't something "wrong" with the chip. I know it's within the thermal specifications. Don't care if nobody else is dealing with temps this high. I could just get a better cooler for them but if the chip is defective and hotter than it should be, a cooler is not really going to solve anything. They'll still have hotter temps than they should with a better cooler. I was hoping someone with a stock heatsink had the same results I'm seeing. I really don't want to have to pull my heatsink off of my system and put the stock on just to compare.
Looks like maybe 75 is normal? Cool, if these temps drop after break-in to 75 and stop going past 80.
Kinda make me glad I got i5-2500k
Idle - 40c at 72f room temp
Prime 95 - 70c at 72f
Stock Intel HS/Fan
Well 85ish is close to your temps kind of. It's certainly not that far away, but it is a lot hotter. This might be normal if it's brought to about high 70's. That would make sense with the whole "Ivy Bridge is hotter" thing. If 78 at full turbo is as high as it would go I don't think I would be as worried.
Intel guy on the forum said 75 is their normal max. I think if it got to 78 or so I wouldn't worry as much. I know if CPU's operate past their thermal envelope they are damaged. But what if they operate within? Is there any damage if a CPU operates at 80c for extended periods compared to operating at 50c for extended periods? If there were, why would 80c be within the thermal envelope? I see people saying not to stress test at 80c, why not? If it's within thermal specifications, why can't it be stress tested? I'm running Prime95 to try to "change" the paste and break it in although I think they want you to turn the heat up and down, but still. Why can't I stress test at 80c? If it damages the CPU should the specifications be lower?
my i5-3570K build with a Coolermaster 212 never gets above 30c even after a few hours of full load. Mobo never reports more than 28c.
GIGABYTE GA-Z77M-D3H motherboard with latest f6 bios
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So far my new system has not been stable. I get random lockups under Windows 7 Pro 64 bit and Ubuntu 12.04. I had all four cores pegged and a few movies playing last night in Ubuntu 12.04 with the latest AMD 12.4 graphics drivers. System hung after about 3 hours. I pulled the graphics card and started another burn in session. System was still humming along after 6 hours of full load using the built in graphics. Booted into Windows 7 and started stressing it before leaving to work. Hopefully when I get back it will still be running. I'm hoping it is the graphics card. I don't feel like troubleshooting this thing any further.
lobobo wrote:
It's certainly not hot at all where I am. Actually it's a bit on the cold side. For some reason I don't think the ambient temp is affecting it simply because it's not hot at all.
The difference between, say, 20C and 25C will directly affect the cooling, even though both temperatures may be considered "not hot".
I'm suspecting it might be normal and they might have given a stock heatsink just enough to operate it within thermal specifications since 80 is not 105.
Historically, Intel is doing just that with stock coolers. Add a few degrees from the ambient temperature, a few degrees from thermal compound issues and a few degrees from possible case airflow variations, and the end result may be a little disturbing - but still within the specifications.
Alright, how many of you have tested it using Prime95 at 100% full load? What cooler do you have? What were your temps?
I ask because we just tried some BF3 and it was surprisingly only around mid-60's the whole time. Never broke 70 once. The CPU was oeprating at its highest 3791.45, but the load was not 100%. It was 60%ish. Apparently it can be at its maximum without actually having 100% load, I never knew that. I still don't understand how that works. If it's at 60% shouldn't it be 60% of the maximum (3791.45) which is 2274.87? If it's 3791.45 at 60% and 3791.45 at 100% load, what difference is there? Some obviously because the temps are different but I don't understand it.
I want to know what kind of temps you guys have with confirmed 100% full load using Prime95, not with a game because it could be lower than 100%. I'm starting to now suspect that everything is fine with the CPU and its just the crap stock heatsink since the temps fall in line with BigKoss 60's in BF3 and 30 at idle. Actually at idle now this CPU is 27 30 36 34, so averaging it out puts it to about 30. While playing BF3 it falls in the mid-60's which isn't too far from his measurement.
In any case I think to get rid of the worry we're just going to throw a Hyper 101 or a Hyper TX3 in there. I've already ordered a Hyper TX3 for them since it was so cheap. I guess I'll just throw it in there and we'll see if the temps go down to somewhat Hyper 212 levels although I'm not expecting as similar a result. Hopefully it will bring full load 100% temps down to less than 60. Before anyone asks, they can't use a Hyper 212 because the case is too slim.
lobobo wrote:
Alright, how many of you have tested it using Prime95 at 100% full load? What cooler do you have? What were your temps?
I ask because we just tried some BF3 and it was surprisingly only around mid-60's the whole time. Never broke 70 once. The CPU was oeprating at its highest 3791.45, but the load was not 100%. It was 60%ish. Apparently it can be at its maximum without actually having 100% load, I never knew that. I still don't understand how that works. If it's at 60% shouldn't it be 60% of the maximum (3791.45) which is 2274.87? If it's 3791.45 at 60% and 3791.45 at 100% load, what difference is there? Some obviously because the temps are different but I don't understand it.
I'm not a CPU doctor but I don't think that's how clock speeds/CPU usage work. A CPU currently running at 3.4 with 60% usage means that while it's running at full speed, it isn't close to saturating its cores. It could still do other things at the same time. However, a CPU at 3.4 with 100% usage is going to throttle what you're doing. Any number of things can ramp up your CPU's clock speeds (I've seen it go up and down while I've been doing random desktop work) but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll require 100% usage.
FWIW, BF3 isn't a very CPU-intensive game. My sister's computer runs on an i3 (I forgot the specific model, it's a Sandy Bridge I believe) and is also never reaching 100% usage (or it wasn't last time I checked).
I just assembled a 3750k system yesterday and today I finished the driver installs and I'm playing with it a bit.
So far I am running at stock speeds with 16GB of 1333Mhz RAM.
I'm idling at 24-27c; I can see it dip to as low as 21-22c on occasion (room temp is ~18c).
I ran Prime95 for a couple of 15 minute tests. It ramps up quickly to 60c, crawled from there to a peak of 66-67c, and returned to below 30c less than a minute from when the run stopped.
I'm sure I can get the chip higher with a test that engages both CPU and GPU, but I'm more than convinced that the OP has a problem.
What kind of cooler?
Oh and I think I figured out the ambient temperature. Is it supposed to be measured in the case? The case has a temperature bulb that sends its data to an LCD on the front. It's reporting that the inside case temperature from a measurement taken between CPU and memory at idle is 29.8c.
If I move the temperature bulb out of the case, it reports 24.8c to 25c.
If Zaphod is using the stock cooler and getting those measurements, the difference between his measurements and his room temperature is about the same as the temps on this chip minus room temperature over here so it doesn't seem like a problem then right?
Right now at idle the temps are: 27 22 32 35
If I run Prime95 it also quickly shoots up to 60, then crawls its way up to 80, fluctuating between 75-84, you'll get the one second when it goes to 87 and then back below 85 but temps never exceed 90c.
Eh I don't know anymore. One minute I feel like the temps are fine it's just the shit heatsink but another I suspect there's something wrong with the CPU. I don't want to keep them waiting by doing an exchange which might take more than a week so I don't know what else to do but throw the Hyper TX3 on there and assume the chip is fine and it was the shit heatsink. Every time I think it's fine I read something else about someone having different temps. I know these things aren't accurate so there's a margin of error. If I consider that these temps aren't much different from what other people in here have reported.
(room temp is ~18c).
Holy shit that's cold.
I have to air condition down to 24c/75c this time of year.
Nevarre wrote:
(room temp is ~18c).
Holy shit that's cold.
I have to air condition down to 24c/75c this time of year.
Spring, Hell...Summer, came early and we opened up the house. Then that Bitch Mother Nature put us back to our normal spring temps. It is mostly 50s and 60s outside, and not much above that inside. I'm not closing back up and I'm sure not running the furnace with the house all open.
A few Mondays ago we set a record at 90f. The very next Monday there was close to a foot of wet, heavy snow not too far from here; we just got a small amount.
Got some news for you guys:
So we got the Hyper TX3 and popped it in. Temps went down significantly.
28 36 36 30 - Old Idle
28 24 31 35 - New Idle
The change is not much for idle. But 100% load is a different story.
80 85 84 77 - Old Load
64 64 67 68 - New Load
I thought we would get better temps but meh, I thought we would get near Hyper 212+ but then there wouldn't be a difference between Hyper 212+ and Hyper TX3. Keep in mind this was just with one 92mm fan pushing. We didn't test BF3 but I suspect it wouldn't even hit 50c. Now the cool part is I coaxed them into trying an overclock without adding voltage, just pushing the multiplier up. We pushed the multiplier up to 43 with 100% load maxing out at the following temps:
64 71 72 66 - Max with 43 multiplier at 100% load
Which was pretty cool, not sure if it's stable since Prime95 hasn't been running for long enough but the temps sure are fine. I don't even want to think about how hot it would get on the stock cooler since it maxes out past in the 75-85 range at stock clock speeds. Either the TX3 is definitely doing its money's worth at $20.00 or the chip just doesn't get hot naturally when I push the multiplier up. In either case we're not going to return the chip and just leave everything as is. Thanks guys!
Very briefly (hope to write up more on my new build soon):
Just put my i5-3570K system together yesterday. All four cores were running under 60C (55-58 IIRC) after 2 hours of Prime95. CPU-Z was showing them at 3.6 GHz at the time. I'm using the elegantly named Zalman CNPS10X Optima.
I'm very happy with that.


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INFJ vs. ESFJ
Hidey-ho, neighbors! I'm posting by the fire this evening, and it feels wonderful against the chill of the night. Hammered by Draco yesterday, we ended up with a half-inch of snow that came down horizontally due to the ferocious winds. Today roads were slick, the weather was clear but very cold, and it looks like we might have a white Christmas after all :-)
(Sidebar: Are we naming winter storms now? And seriously, who picked out Draco? Some meteorologist somewhere's been watching a little too much Harry Potter!)
Okay, so after the week I've had, my brain is pretty much in TGIF mode! Made it through requisite paperwork and e-mails, endless errands, and a few nearly-sleepless nights. On a positive note, I experienced some awesome creativity and vision, as well as a timely social connection, that have me fairly pumped and looking forward to a weekend of writing.
This week I've also been mulling over the INFJ/ESFJ connection. Unfortunately, I can't find any cool videos or articles that compare, contrast and draw conclusions--which sucks, because it's a lot easier to post when I can leverage off someone else's hard work! So I'm going to have to pull this together myself based on research, forums, and my own experience.
When I first discovered that my hubby was an ESFJ and Googled it up, I was a little dismayed to discover the general opinion that INFJ forum members seem to harbor. The typically warm, compassionate INFJ is often neither of these when venting about an ESFJ friend or significant other. The terms overbearing, smothering, and irritating kept rearing their ugly heads. I found this unusual, since I wouldn't describe my husband that way at all.
But this relationship is considered "illusionary" in that it starts out looking really great and ends up being too draining for the INFJ or not affirming enough for the ESFJ.
So let's take a look at the ESFJ personality type itself.
The ESFJ is commonly known as The Provider. They are kind, nurturing, dependable and love people. ESFJs are also warm, energetic and easy to talk with. They are giving and prone to selflessness and generosity. My hubby definitely has all of these qualities. Looking back, I think I was drawn to him because I don't possess them myself--at least not in large, extraverted quantities. I really enjoy his generosity and willingness to sacrifice for our family. And my introvert self appreciates his ability to talk easily with anyone! I can't begin to count the number of times I've depended on him to handle phone calls, door-to-door solicitors and various social encounters where I loathe the small talk necessary to get through the evening. He's also kind of goofy and has a slapstick-type sense of humor, which offsets my intense seriousness about life :-)
But in fairness, I do need to talk about why the INFJ might have some difficulty dealing with their ESFJ counterpart. First off, the ESFJ is extremely sensitive to criticism. As a blunt, straightforward INFJ, I've noticed my approach can come across as very harsh to my husband. What I consider practical logic can crush him in an instant. Because it's awkward for me to be anything other than my blunt self, I often end up in the position of having to "apologize" for my lack of sugarcoating. This tends to irritate me, because I don't feel like I should have to apologize for being myself--especially when he's the only person in my small circle that seems to be bothered by it.
ESFJs are also very emotional. This in itself isn't much of a problem. I'm very non-emotional, so we kind of balance each other out. But I've often accused him of overreacting to little things that seem to bother him more than anyone else in our household. He can go from mature-business-analyst to twelve-year-old-boy in the blink of an eye over something the rest of us consider trivial. And as an INFJ, I instantly shrink from emotional outbursts. It often upsets my husband that at the times he needs me the most, I am the least accessible. He actively seeks emotional connections, while I actively withdraw from many of the emotional circumstances that he uses to bring about those connections. For example, he seems to need lots of discussion and debate after a conflict or argument. It makes him feel better. I'd rather find closure and move on without endless conversation about it--because that endless chatter drains me. We try to compromise with this, but it's definitely an obstacle in our relationship.
Probably one of the biggest issues we have is control. ESFJs tend to want to control their environment with order and structure. They're not all that big on abstract, unstructured approaches. My husband likes structure and analysis, and he's very thorough and detailed. While I can appreciate this about him, it sometimes makes my creative, visionary side want to run away screaming. When I ask, "Honey, can we afford this?" all I really want is a yes/no response. What I get is a two-page spreadsheet with color-coded headings and bolded totals. And when I buy something, I choose it from an intuitive, sensory perspective without thinking too much about money. If it strikes me as authentic or pleases my Fe, I go for it. Hubby, on the other hand, is only looking at the price tag. This difference in our approach has been the source of many a conflict between us. He can't seem to understand why I do things a certain way when "his" way is much more efficient or sensible. Even if I agree his way is better, I still do things my own way because they are just "me"--and no matter how much we talk about it, he can't understand why I continue to choose mine over his.
In my forum-searching, I did come across an interesting thread about the female INFJ and male ESFJ being more compatible than the reverse. This made a certain kind of sense to me. The ESFJ has a lot of feminine traits...caring, nurturing, giving insane amounts of themselves over to ensure peace and stability. In a woman, I can see where this might be the antithesis of the INFJ preference in companionship. I'm sure I've run up against ESFJ females--and didn't know their personality type--but intuitively headed in the opposite direction anyway. Girly and emotional I am not. I like levelheaded women who can talk about deep, intellectual issues or speak with authority on interesting topics. My husband, while possessing the feminine traits of the Provider, still has the male traits of being authoritative and even-keeled. Perhaps a female INFJ (with a masculine approach) and a male ESJF (with a feminine approach) make for a well-balanced match?
One thing I need to mention here is that the MBTI is not a rock-solid indicator of success or failure in a relationship. Love and devotion go a long way toward making things work. My friend Wendy is an ESTP...but her husband is an INFJ. The Jungian experts would probably not predict a positive outcome for a match of this nature, but Wendy and her hubby are both devoted Christians who love God and each other. They've been together for many years and have learned to appreciate their differences and leverage their strengths. So just because you're pegged as a certain type doesn't mean an "opposing" type can't be pursued.
Something else I should mention is that my marriage endures a great deal of stress not typical in an ordinary relationship. Having a son with both Down syndrome and a wide range of autistic behaviors has put my husband and me through scenarios a normal couple would have to experience to believe. We've been married for ten years and have a blended family--but due to the high level of responsibility we must maintain, we really haven't had much opportunity to grow as individuals or as a couple. I am speaking in total honesty when I say that I'm a lot more withdrawn and detached than I should be, and it's mostly because I've built up several thick layers around my heart to protect it from stress and disillusionment. This makes me less effective at giving my husband the emotional connection he needs. Raising a dually-disabled child is hard, dang it. It can make or break a person, and it can make or break a relationship. You can dress it up or romanticize it all you want, but in the end, it is what it is.
Fortunately, my husband and I both believe in God and rely on Him for guidance and assistance in our approach to life, family and the make-or-break circumstances. Without Him, we might not have made it this far :-)
Lol, this post is more of a novella, and I still don't feel that I've covered all the nuances of a relationship between an INFJ and an ESFJ. I can speculate that it's easier if the INFJ is female and the ESFJ is male--but I can't offer proof. All I can conclude is that no, it's not considered ideal in Jungian circles and yes, it takes a lot of hard work and communication. My husband and I are living proof that you can at least make it for ten years!!
So now that I've rambled on and on here, how about you guys? Do you have experience with ESFJs that are similar to mine? Do my conclusions seem reasonable, or have I hit way outside the mark? ;-)
Hoping you're warm and toasty tonight...
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