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Twg Iv: Postgame
lolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members Posts: 9,006 Fully active userTime for my journal I guess.
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CODE TWG IV: Freya
The Host's Point of View
The cards have been dealt. The humans have the advantage of an experienced psychic, Sky. He was the psychic in TWG I, and he saw the other side as a wolf in TWG III. The other two human roles, Pulse (seer) and SaltzBad (guardian) are new to the game.
The wolves have an experienced player, Swiftspear, who played in TWG I and II, but is new to being a wolf. docchimpy played in TWG III, but was killed early on. Nemesis Zero and Cold NiTe are new to the game.
Night one:
Pulse seers Talesin - a human.
SaltzBad protects TheMuffinMan.
The wolves kill Freak. One human down, and one of the most experienced ones, too. Maybe I shouldn't earlier in the week have said that this was what I'd do if I were a wolf...
Day one:
wonedslackystyle manages to get a bandwagon going against him and shoots up to five votes, more than halfway to an instalynch, within a few hours. Oh the drama! So much drama! Looks like the game is off to a good start.
Poor slacky. He made rather valid points (although he IS accusing a fellow human), and it gets everyone going against him. I'm a little worried about instalynch at the moment. Hope it won't happen, as I am NOT writing the next chapter before sunday. Too tired. *yawn*
im lost immediately changes his vote after I announce the current votes. I guess I'm happy about that. I'm certain slacky is.
Random thought: <slackykingofgorges> I mention it because it was a tip for next game, every wolf in history on this forum lynched a good player on night 1
I took issue with that statement, and did some research: In TWG I, urinalcake was wolfed on the first night. Since this was the first game on these forums, how would the wolves know whether he was a good player or not? In TWG II, it was im lost. Since im lost survived until night three (where he was wolfed) in TWG I, he may have established himself as a good player or not. Hard to say. In TWG III, it was Abra. Same case as with im lost, except that he managed to survive the (rather short) TWG II. To summarize: wonedslackystyle may or not be right about his statement, but if I were in the game I would take issue with it. Ah well. I know he's human, so he means well.
Another thought: <Sky|work> for the record, and this coming from someone who had to work with slacky last game as a wolf, he's like that all the time
That does indeed seem to be the case. wonedslackystyle's style of playing is rather different from the other players, who seem to be more reluctant and careful. slacky plays with a very "in your face" style. And I've always wanted to say "in your face."
It seems that everyone (as least as far as they are willing to admit to in public) is determined not to instalynch slacky. I'll be able to sleep soundly tonight, not having to fear an instalynch.
And yet another thought: <Skyhigh> first of all, what are the odds, that freak would have been a wolf two times in a row...
Not very good. However, this question is irrelevant. The relevant question would be "what are the odds that Freak is a wolf in this game when he was one in the last game?" And the answer, of course, would be: "Same as if he HADN'T been a wolf last game."
We have a situation on our hands by now: Three players, docchimpy, Psyke and Some tall guy, appear to be inactive. Damn, what a hassle. Why does this have to happen to me?
About three hours left and I haven't heard anything from the inactives. I start contacting other players about joining the game. In order: Chrono, Hellfire3k, Mantrid.
It looks like slacky is going to get lynched. If anything, I blame his very outspoken manner. He throws his weight around and is not afraid to go toe to toe with anyone. Maybe the game needs more players than him. But it seems like it will now have one less.
Not at all to my surprise, slacky gets lynched. Freak and slacky, probably our most experienced players, gone right at the start of the game. Interesting...
Night two:
During a netsplit involving only me, Nemesis Zero and Snidely, Snidely tells Nem that he has been talking with Swiftspear about slacky, offering to share the details of the conversation (in PM I presume). Little does he suspect (or does he?) that he is talking to a wolf about a conversation he had with a wolf. Snidely is in danger of becoming an ally of the wolves. Nothing good can come of this... well, nothing good for the humans at least.
SaltzBad decides to protect Nemesis Zero for the night. I don't think there's much of a chance that he will successfully avert a kill...
Some tall guy tells me that his inactivity is due to massive ISP problems. I'll replace him last, to give him time to get back in the game if possible.
Pulse seers Nemesis Zero. Can't say I'm surprised, I suspected that Nem would be the first wolf to be detected or lynched. Being famous has its drawbacks.
Mantrid takes docchimpy's place as a wolf (or at least he confirms that he wants to play, and I give him the word). Waiting for reply.
I get a PM from Nemesis Zero, stating that the wolves have decided to kill SaltzBad. Poor SaltzBad, killed by the very person he sought to protect. The irony is delicious.
What is it with guardians? Apparrently, being appointed guardian is a death sentence.
After close to 48 hours, Hellfire3k responds. Hellfire takes over for Psyke. That should take care of the inactives I hope.
SaltzBad is killed. I'm a little disappointed - I had something quite great (imo) in store in case SaltzBad should manage to prevent a wolf kill. Durn.
End of night two.
Day two:
<Pulse> so Nem|reading, what is your analysis of the game so far?
Not a bad move considering that Pulse knows that Nem is a formtaker. I'd have done it in PM though.
<Pulse> I think wonedslackystyle may have been a wolf
Dead wrong. :) Try asking Sky, he knows.
Some tall guy is still not exactly a bastion of activity, and it seems like he will be lynched because of it.
Some tall guy gets lynched. Incidentally, Sky, the psychic, voted for him. He won't be happy to hear that he got the wrong guy.
Night three:
Pulse seers Snidely. This brings his knowledge to two confirmed humans and a confirmed wolf. I would really like to ask him whether he's actively talking to Talesin (and will talk to Snidely), but I know I shouldn't, so I won't.
The wolves decide on im lost.
The wolves change their vote to Renegade.
Day three:
Quote Nemesis Zero: "A nod to the guardian, by the way - so far, your job was pure luck, which is why I'm not going to blame you for any death so far, but we're starting to arrive at a point where the net target is relatively forseeable, so I'd appreciate if lol wouldn't have to invent a new source of death"
Of course, this is all lies. But I wonder if the wolves know that they have already slaughtered the guardian. This post, of course, has nothing to do with it, it's just smokescreen - but SaltzBad died on night two. The wolves were either extremely lucky, or they had gained knowledge that the humans really did not want them to have. If Pulse and/or Sky bites the dust now, things could look very bleak for the humans indeed.
Quote TheMuffinMan: "I agree with your points 100% nem, but the killing of saltzbad is starting to grate on me. Perhaps he said the wrong thing to a wolf."
Wow. Is he on to something? Did TheMuffinMan know that SaltzBad was the guardian?
Quote Nemesis Zero: "This might be a dangerous suggestion, but maybe it's best to ignore Saltz' wolfing for a second. He's simply too likely to be a deception."
OH MY GOD! Did EVERYONE know that SaltzBad was the guardian? What does this mean? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? I wish I could ask the players, but even the subtlest of questions are liable to give away something. Ah, I will know in the postgame thread.
Swiftspear and Nemesis Zero are rehearsing for the big concert. Or to put it differently, they're playing the humans like a fiddle. Or to be entirely precise, they're trying to. I cannot know how many of the humans are buying it, but I know for certain that Pulse is not. Talesin and Snidely, both having been seered and therefore probably contacted by him, are probably not buying it either.
Pulse and his crew are being smart. Instead of trying to move on Nemesis Zero, they are waiting, hoping that he will incriminate other wolves. They don't have the numbers to take the wolves on yet, either.
<TheMuffinMan> this NIALL thing is horrible :(
<TheMuffinMan> it keeps asking me for my name, then calling me NIALL and then saying "fair enough" after i explain why my name is not NIALL :(
<brute_force> fair enough
<TheMuffinMan> :(
I know that Swiftspear and Nemesis Zero are both wolves, so my judgement is not objective. But I believe that to Pulse, who knows that Nemesis Zero is a wolf, Swiftspear must look rather suspicious. To throw the seer off, those two need to act out a good disagreement bordering on a flamewar or something. However, they do not know that one of them has been seered. I shall not be surprised if Swiftspear is seered next.
I get a PM from Freak, detailing his suspicions:
<[sA]Freak83> my current thoughts - Nem is a wolf
<[sA]Freak83> Badkarma is a role, no idea which one
<[sA]Freak83> nem is aiming for the bandwagon and making it seem like "oh this could help the wolves at the last moment" to boost his own status
So that's a positive on Nem and a negative on BadKarma.
Next up, SaltzBad shares his suspicions:
<SaltzBad> I wouldn't be surprised if I gaurded 2 wolves, but I did at least 1
<lolfighter> Let's hear them and I'll comment on them in my journal.
<SaltzBad> Psyke, ColdNite, TheMuffinMan, SwiftSpear, Nemesis0 are my prime suspects. I haven't really thought about it much lately and threw away my notes post death (forgot to pass them on beforehand anyway), but it was based on the voting shifts and a few select oddities in behaviour
<SaltzBad> Possible also docchimpy or his replacement.
Two misses, but he got all the wolves. Kinda like buckshot. Wait, a guardian with a shotgun? The wolves did well in killing him it seems.
The general consensus seems to be that Talesin and/or BadKarma are wolves. This, of course, is not the case. However, it is likely that one of them is going to die. I would place my money on BadKarma - if Pulse has been talking to his confirmed humans, Talesin has two allies that will probably change their votes to save him if necessary. If they do, will the wolves suspect something? And what will Sky do when he learns that the humans have taken yet another casaulty? He has been somewhat quiet so far, perhaps in an effort to avoid getting killed. In TWG I, he managed to salvage the game from what seemed like a certain wolf victory. Will it be necessary for him to do this again? CAN he do it again? Tune in next week to find out! Err...
BadKarma gets lynched. Phantom votes for Cold NiTe and Hellfire3k.
Night four:
Random thought: Sky has had a special role in all three of his games. Two stints as a psychic, one as a wolf.
So... Did I predict that Swiftspear was going to get seered? I did, didn't I? Yes I did. Pulse seers Swiftspear, bringing the number of confirmed wolves to two - Nemesis Zero and Swiftspear. Unless the wolves kill Pulse soon, things are looking good for the humans.
I get a PM from Swiftspear: im lost is their next victim, but subject to change.
No change. im lost dies.
Day four:
Snidely votes for Swiftspear. At the same time, he brings forward quite a lot of good points to back his theory. Aside from that, if Pulse has been talking, Snidely KNOWS that Swiftspear is a wolf. It seems like Pulse is going to use Snidely to speak for him.
I chat with the deceased im lost, and he offers to tell me a little about his secret communications since I had lamented how I didn't know anything about them (for example, although I did not tell him that, I am incredibly curious whether Pulse is networking or not. I believe he is, but I can't be sure). I figure that it can't hurt, so I give him the go-ahead:
<im_lost> sky was working on an alliance with me, swift, and nem
<im_lost> he said he has heard from the psychic, but he wouldn't tell us who the psychic is
<im_lost> sky thinks muffinman is a wolf
<im_lost> and wanted to have him killed to see how the psychic would respond
<im_lost> we all were pretty willing to follow sky, since there was nothing else to go with
<im_lost> except for the fact that we disagreed about muffinman being a wolf, meaning his plan was useless
<im_lost> before i died, the message hadn't gotten back to sky that we weren't going to help him kill muffinman
<im_lost> that's what sky's "random" vote against muffinman was about yesterday
<im_lost> probably the only reason muffinman lived is because there was difficulties with all of us being at a computer and coordinating votes
Well, this certainly puts im lost's death in perspective. It is quite possible that the wolves suspected that im lost might be the psychic that Sky was talking about. The big question is, what will the wolves do? Will they keep Sky alive, hoping to coax the identity of the psychic out of him somehow? Will they kill him to shut up the psychic's spokesperson? Will they kill him because they believe he is the psychic himself?
And what is Sky up to? Is he aware of the peril he has placed himself in? Sky is no fool, and im lost died shortly after the (seemingly unstable) alliance with Nemesis Zero and Swiftspear was formed. Will he attribute this to chance, or will he suspect the two?
Should I ever forget it, remind that Swiftspear is cold as ice in this game. After Snidely votes for him, he is very outspoken in his defense. If anybody has the impression that he feels hurt by Snidely's accusations, I'm sure that is what Swiftspear intended. He also loudly defends im lost, saying: "For the record by the onset of last night I had talked with lost a fair bit and I was no longer feeling suspicious of him at all." Yet he is the one who killed him. The best part about this is that both are simply putting on a show for the other humans - who can sway the most to his banner? And the question remains whether the wolves are suspicious of Snidely by now or not.
Oh my God, plot twist! Talesin poses as the seer (and steals the limelight from my storytelling! Fiend!), exposing Swiftspear and Nemesis Zero as wolves. Correction, he now mentions that he was seered by the seer himself. He also requests that the guardian protect him tonight (no can do). Finally, he votes for Nemesis Zero. The suspense!
In IRC, TheMuffinMan speaks strongly for Swiftspear and Nemesis Zero, and against Talesin. I suspect that TheMuffinMan will be seered tonight. The question is, will he believe that he is being contacted by the real seer?
Thought: If Nemesis Zero or Swiftspear dies, the life of the psychic, Sky, is probably forfeit. Those two have been in contact with him, and he will probably know too much. On the other hand, they might be afraid to lynch him in case he is really just the psychic's mouthpiece - for the surviving wolf, that would pretty much be an admission of guilt.
It seems like the humans are beginning to get on top of the game. By seering two wolves in the first four nights, Pulse laid a solid foundation, but had precious few allies. By having Talesin act as his mouth, and with Snidely supporting him from the sidelines, he is viciously lashing out at the confirmed wolves, who defend themselves with zeal.
Talesin says that Matrid will be seered tonight. Let's assume that this is not a bluff: The wolves know that one more wolf will be unmasked. But only three people, Talesin, Pulse and Snidely, will be sure to believe this, and those three are not enough. How will the other humans react when/if Talesin denounces Mantrid?
Talesin seems to know this as well: "On a side note, it's actually more of a pain that we DID find two wolves early in the game. Having a larger circle of humans makes things easier... gives you more people to talk to, and narrows the number of might-be wolves."
Now Talesin says that they're gonna seer Cold NiTe instead, hoping to find another human. They'll be sorely disappointed. "Blast, ANOTHER wolf!" In fact, this might just make them appear even more suspicious to the unnetworked humans, TheMuffinMan, Sky, brute force and Hellfire3k.
Talesin also mentioned that he was contacted by the mouth of the psychic. But im lost is dead. Who else does Sky have contact to?
Cold NiTe openly accuses Talesin of bullying and scare-tactics, casting his vote for him at the end of his post. And damn, that's a pretty good post.
Nemesis Zero votes for Talesin as well, bringing the total votes up to five, one short of an instalynch. This looks very bad for the humans. If Talesin or any other human dies, the game will be down to ten players, and only nine after night five. In that case, the humans will be outnumbering the wolves by a measily single player, and regardless of what they vote, they lose one player each day. In other words, if Talesin dies, the humans end up in the same situation as in TWG I: They will have to vote off the wolves consecutively, without the slightest error. One more human lynched and the game is over. However, at the moment they still have the seer and the psychic, although the networked humans do not know who the seer is.
For quite a while, it looked as though Talesin was going to get lynched for sure. Now he and Nemesis Zero are even, each one vote below instalynch. Hellfire3k has the deciding vote, and he has been absent since day three... In fact, he hasn't posted on the forums since the 9th of April, five days ago.
If it comes down to a random lynch between Talesin and Nemesis Zero, I have decided to be a total git: I will post part of the "night five" post, then at the decisive moment I will announce a fifteen minute break (during which I will toss a coin (random.org) to decide on the victim). The players will hate me.
Five hours left. This could very well be the deciding moment of the game, and it seems like a random vote is going to decide, all because one player is inactive. Why? Oh fortuna, why doest thou mock me like this? Do I not deserve a serious game? Where did I go wrong? Fortuna, I never liked you, you know that?
Both sides are playing with very high stakes here. The seer & Co. are risking a lot in having Talesin being so vocal. The wolves, on the other hand, have more or less tipped their hand by all voting for Talesin. This is very much the pivotal point in the game.
<Snidely|CRUISIN> What would be REALLY funny is if I'm wrong and lead the humans into the wolves' jaws. That is all.
I would really like to reassure Snidely here. After all, he may be right as much as he wants to - he might lose the game anyway. But I can't tell him anything. Should I feel sorry for him, or laugh with sadistic glee?
TheMuffinMan informs me that he is going to change his vote to Nemesis Zero, and does so.
Nemesis Zero is instalynched. First wolf casaulty.
End of a very tumultuous day four.
Night five:
The night starts off, only fourteen minutes later, with a PM from Swiftspear: brute force will bite the dust. There's 24 hours left until then though, let's see what happens.
And I turn out to be right. Just two minutes later, I receive a PM from Cold NiTe. Rather than summarise it, I'll just put it here in its entirety. I'm sure he won't mind.
"Okay I got several quick questions and a wolf statement.
A.) Is it possible to wolf the seer BEFORE they get to seer anyone?
B.) Is it possible to wolf the seer BEFORE they can notify anyone whether the person they seer'ed is a wolf or not.
C.) Is it possible to choose who gets wolfed tonight right now, before the other wolves choose?
I flushed a certain person out as the seer, so I want to wolf him, I even forwarded the message to the other wolves. However I'm scared they didn't get it and might still try to wolf the wrong guy, the guy I told them was the seer originally before I could worm the info out of him.
So if A, B or C is possible at all, then I'd like to let you know my pick. If any of these are a possibility, please notify me. Thanks man."
A negative on the first two. Whoever the wolves kill remains fully alive until the end of the night. The third one is strictly speaking a positive, but since I allow the wolves to change their choice during the night, that choice can be changed later on. I believe Cold NiTe feared that this was not possible.
A short while later I get another PM from Cold NiTe, with his selection: Snidely. I message him back and tell him that I'm going with Snidely for now (since that is the most current choice), but to contact his fellow wolves and get this mess straightened out. Ah well, no hurry, still 23 hours and 42 minutes remaining. :)
Swiftspear messages me again, clearing up the confusion: He is now also for Snidely. How convenient that he also provides an explanation: "Snidely addmitted his seerance to cold nite, thus we must wolf off snidely."
I do believe Snidely is doing this specifically to bait Cold NiTe: If he dies, they know that Cold NiTe is a wolf even without seering him. And the wolves are completely falling for it. I wonder why: Why would the seer reveal his identity to an unconfirmed player? The wolves must be getting desperate after today's defeat.
Pulse seers TheMuffinMan. I guess his sudden change of vote appears suspicious to him.
Day five:
In my absense, debate rages, ending in the instalynch of Swiftspear, triggered by Mantrid.
In his "goodbye post," he hints at being a human once again, furthering my belief that we should make a zero-tolerance ban on such posts: When you are dead, you do not speak up. Dead players are not supposed to involve themselves in the game, and claiming once again to be human is an attempt to do EXACTLY that. Disappointing.
And disappointments rarely come alone it seems. TheMuffinMan attempts to cheat by coaxing information out of me. I have decided to let it slide with a stern warning for now, but he deserves some sort of punishment. I think public exhibition is fitting:
<TheMuffinMan> Hey, did you just get a pm?
<TheMuffinMan> on the forum, that is
<lolfighter> Have you sent me one? I'll go check.
<TheMuffinMan> Thanks
<lolfighter> I'm sorry, I don't have a PM from you.
<lolfighter> Please send it again.
<TheMuffinMan> What about Pulse?
<TheMuffinMan> nevermind, you near enough confirmed it anyway. Cheers
<lolfighter> Huh?
<TheMuffinMan> I wanted to see if Pulse was actually the seer and actually just sent you a pm, nevermind
<lolfighter> Ah. Well, I can't comment on other people's PMs.
<TheMuffinMan> :)
<lolfighter> In fact, I am very offended by this. Do you know that it is a quite serious offense to attempt to coax information out of the Host?
<lolfighter> I should kill you right now for this. And I will most definitely report this to Freak83.
You have personally disappointed me, TheMuffinMan. You seemed like a cool guy.
I've said it to you in private, and I think it is a good idea to repeat it: This WILL NEVER happen again. Your second chance is also your last. Make the most of it.
Night six:
The wolves kill brute force.
Pulse seers Mantrid. Only one unconfirmed wolf remaining, and they're already suspecting him. I predict that Mantrid dies on day six, and Cold NiTe on day seven.
Day six:
The gig is up. Mantrid has been identified and publically denounced as a wolf. Cold NiTe will be seered tonight, of that I am sure, and subsequently lynched. Another human victory is at hand. The only unknown factor is who Cold NiTe will kill tonight.
After three people vote for Mantrid, he himself casts the final vote and triggers an instalynch. In his final post, he takes on the guise of a sore loser, claiming that it's all hopeless and that Hellfire3k is the last remaining wolf. If he would manage to get Hellfire3k lynched, that would at least be a moral victory. However, that is extremeley unlikely by this point. Pulse will seer either Hellfire3k or Cold NiTe, and Cold NiTe will subsequently be lynched.
Night seven:
Pulse seers Cold NiTe. How (not at all) unexpected.
Pulse, I like you and I consider you a friend. How sad that this is now going to end, for I shall now do something to you so hideously evil that you will always hate me for it.
Throughout the game, you have demanded that I let you eject someone out of an airlock. I had that idea myself, but I have stubbornly refused to do so because you would then claim the glory for yourself. Now Cold NiTe has made you his final kill, and yeah, you're going out that airlock, Pulse. Drink vacuum.
So in the end, the last remaining wolf managed to kill off the seer. Had it happened earlier, they would have won. C'est la vie.
Day seven:
Cold NiTe is instalynched. Game over, humans win.Military cemeteries around the world are packed with brainwashed, dead soldiers who were convinced God was on their side.
- George Carlin
Lolfighter : I am deeply sorry about that. It was a silly and selfish thing to do and, as i said on IRC, it won't happen again.
QUOTE I do believe Snidely is doing this specifically to bait Cold NiTe: If he dies, they know that Cold NiTe is a wolf even without seering him. And the wolves are completely falling for it. I wonder why: Why would the seer reveal his identity to an unconfirmed player? The wolves must be getting desperate after today's defeat.
It makes sense after showing y'all the message that got sent to him among others. They probably figured I blundered. It was tense right up until Muffin (that sly old dog (: ) pulled his switcheroo, so it wouldn't be too surprising.Post edited by Unknown User on
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QUOTE (Snidely @ Apr 23 2005, 06:24 PM) I don't know whether or not they thought I was the seer at that point. I'll be interested to know. I told Brute outright that I was the seer on IRC, I don't know if that caused any problems later on.
I thought you were the seer until I saw a mention of Pulse in the IRC channel (after I was dead, I think this was on day 7 or something). Heh.
Well, good game guys. It wasn't all that fun to watch from the sidelines, but I knew what to expect due to my level of seniority. I hope the next game is as equally interesting
Savior, conqueror, hero, villian.
Espionage Mod
Pulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation Posts: 2,670There's not much to say at this point that hasn't been said before except to pose one question to the wolves and another to everyone.
The question for the wolves is... What happened? When Talesin came out as my mouthpiece, a heated battle ensued and we were an inch away from a wolf victory, then TMM changed sides and Nem was lynched. I expected the next day to have a similar tone, since the last day was a major victory for the humans, you'd think the wolves would try to do something about it. So along comes the next day and (un)surprisingly enough, Snidely is wolfed and then... nothing. It was like the wolves just stopped trying... Were the wolves so convinced that Snidely was the seer that they thought they could just go on to win the game without doing much? Was this part of some kind of plan that I'm not seeing? I'm just wondering.
Secondly, I want to know if anyone ever thought I was the seer or a wolf at any point and why. I ask this out of curiosity (it seemed odd that everyone always seemed to forget that I exist; I'm not that good, am I?), but also out of the desire to become a better player.
QUOTE Day four:
Snidely votes for Swiftspear. At the same time, he brings forward quite a lot of good points to back his theory. Aside from that, if Pulse has been talking, Snidely KNOWS that Swiftspear is a wolf. It seems like Pulse is going to use Snidely to speak for him.
I chat with the deceased im lost, and he offers to tell me a little about his secret communications since I had lamented how I didn't know anything about them (for example, although I did not tell him that, I am incredibly curious whether Pulse is networking or not. I believe he is, but I can't be sure). I figure that it can't hurt, so I give him the go-ahead:
<im_lost> sky was working on an alliance with me, swift, and nem
<im_lost> he said he has heard from the psychic, but he wouldn't tell us who the psychic is
<im_lost> sky thinks muffinman is a wolf
<im_lost> and wanted to have him killed to see how the psychic would respond
<im_lost> we all were pretty willing to follow sky, since there was nothing else to go with
<im_lost> except for the fact that we disagreed about muffinman being a wolf, meaning his plan was useless
<im_lost> before i died, the message hadn't gotten back to sky that we weren't going to help him kill muffinman
<im_lost> that's what sky's "random" vote against muffinman was about yesterday
<im_lost> probably the only reason muffinman lived is because there was difficulties with all of us being at a computer and coordinating votes
Well, this certainly puts im lost's death in perspective. It is quite possible that the wolves suspected that im lost might be the psychic that Sky was talking about. The big question is, what will the wolves do? Will they keep Sky alive, hoping to coax the identity of the psychic out of him somehow? Will they kill him to shut up the psychic's spokesperson? Will they kill him because they believe he is the psychic himself?
And what is Sky up to? Is he aware of the peril he has placed himself in? Sky is no fool, and im lost died shortly after the (seemingly unstable) alliance with Nemesis Zero and Swiftspear was formed. Will he attribute this to chance, or will he suspect the two?
/me points to pm with Snidely
Yeah, I figured I was in a bit of hot water there. But laying everything out for everyone to see, all those pms and everything, was the most fun I've ever had in any twg.
And I forgot about Pulse as well. I believe I even forgot to mention you once when I counted the people who still had to vote.
Speaking of which, what was with the wolves and not voting? You'd think that the wolves would make every effort possible to just put down some random vote everyday to avoid a phantom vote.
QUOTE (Snidely) I guess their slogan should be "with a Trojan, sex will last as long as the Trojan War, with only a fraction of the eroticism".
Reading over that part of lolfighter's log reminded me of something he told me. He figured it would be a good idea for people playing to send pm's to the host when they have something interesting happening, such as meaningful secret communication. It would be completely voluntary, and one-way communication only. The purpose would be so that the host can add that information into their log of the game (if they are making one) in the context of what is happening at the time.
Apparently I'm the only one that thinks a Europe game and a Nort America game is a good idea, I guess.
Talesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators Posts: 6,952 modActually, my random posts and early bandwagoning were exactly what I said they were... the result of extremely long workdays, and not enough time, but not wanting to pick up a phantom vote. And hell, since someone needs to be lynched, and it looks like X is already going to... might as well. The herd mentality. I couldn't say it that way during the game, as I was pretty sure a wolf would pick up on it and use it as extra evidence toward a lynching with me as the centerpiece.
Also, just so you know, my coming out as the mouthpiece was recommended against by Pulse at the time... said to wait a night or two, try to work things without going public. Another factor of the sleep-dep (again, long work-days) was impulsiveness and being a bit 'twitchy'... it seemed like it had to be done, and as soon as possible, as no one was even suspecting Nem or Swift, at least publically.
Also, the apparent 'late' announcement was unexpected, as I said... I really did want Swift to be a human, as he'd have been a very valuable member of the network, for his speaking and persuasion capability. When he came back as a Wolf, the panic set in firm. :b
NEX9 Join Date: 2005-03-08 Member: 44299Members Posts: 1,642gg i seriously got off over the readStop by see some of my latest works in maya, ill even evently host my WIP's and old old works.
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QUOTE (im lost @ Apr 23 2005, 09:30 PM) Reading over that part of lolfighter's log reminded me of something he told me. He figured it would be a good idea for people playing to send pm's to the host when they have something interesting happening, such as meaningful secret communication. It would be completely voluntary, and one-way communication only. The purpose would be so that the host can add that information into their log of the game (if they are making one) in the context of what is happening at the time.
I was planning to do this, but by the end of the game, I had two inboxes worth of correspondance. It doesn't help that I lost the first lot to the archiving function.
QUOTE Apparently I'm the only one that thinks a Europe game and a Nort America game is a good idea, I guess.
I'd like to have two separate games, but if anything, this game has proved that we don't have enough people for that. If only Condizzle hadn't given up his slot. ):
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QUOTE (Mantrid @ Apr 24 2005, 05:26 AM) Our suspicions about who the seer was went (if I recall correctly), from Snidely, to Brute Force, to Sky, and finally, when it was all too late, to Pulse.
You thought I was the seer? Mind if I ask why? I'm really curious, cause I'm pretty much always in the background, not saying much (which I suppose is kinda seer-like when I think about it).
Anyway, I think this game was the most fun one out of the ones I've played (TWG 3 and 4 - no disrespect to Renegade of course). Nice job on the story and everything lolly
QUOTE (im lost @ Apr 23 2005, 09:30 PM) Apparently I'm the only one that thinks a Europe game and a Nort America game is a good idea, I guess.
It would be a good idea if we had enough people for two games, but as Snidely said, we do not. Although perhaps soon there will be enough of a playerbase for two games - the signups for TWG 4 were filled a hell of alot quicker than in previous games.
Speaking of which, there won't be any twg V if people don't apply for the host position.
I was thinking about applying myself, but I don't think any story I write could compete with lolfighter's.
QUOTE (Snidely) I guess their slogan should be "with a Trojan, sex will last as long as the Trojan War, with only a fraction of the eroticism".
QUOTE (Sky @ Apr 24 2005, 09:09 AM) Speaking of which, there won't be any twg V if people don't apply for the host position.
I was thinking about applying myself, but I don't think any story I write could compete with lolfighter's.
I already sent an e-mail freak's way and applied to host a game.
I'm well aware of how we're supposed to apply, but I also assumed that anyone who did apply would post here saying as much, just to show everyone who's in the running, so to speak.
QUOTE (Snidely) I guess their slogan should be "with a Trojan, sex will last as long as the Trojan War, with only a fraction of the eroticism".
It's up to the host to decide that, and you should describe the role when you suggest it since most people don't know what all of the roles are (I have read over them several times and still had to look up the wizard role (which is a person on the wolf side that searches for the seer, and the wizard and wolves don't know who each other are)). I think the simplest change that could be made would be to add a Miller (a human that shows up as a wolf to the seer, he doesn't know that he has this role though). Then again, I'm not applying to be a host.
I've applied to be host.
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I'm sure Freak'll choose the host based on both responsibility and creativity of proposed game (provided it's balanced).
This isn't going anywhere; we'll all get a chance to host eventually.
On a related matter, should we begin thinking about some kind of council to decide these kinds of things, like who's going to be hosting the next game, what special roles are allowed, which forumites should be disallowed from participating, etc. Freak is fine for now, but it seems an awful big responsibility for one person to decide who hosts and how they host every game. And furthermore, if Freak were to be busy for a month or so, it'd be nice to have an "official" council that could run things.
QUOTE (Snidely) I guess their slogan should be "with a Trojan, sex will last as long as the Trojan War, with only a fraction of the eroticism".
Byeka Name changed from Freak83 Toronto Join Date: 2003-03-13 Member: 14484Members, Constellation Posts: 1,391I've been tossing ideas around in my head lately who would be on a council. For now like I said, I'm going to post the host thread either in roleplaying or in Off Topic and it will be up to everyone to vote on their host, based on who has sent me an application.
And those things you guys are talking about, two teams of werewolves, millers, etc. If you're going to apply to host then feel free to include/make these changes. In the sign up thread everyone is going to see exactly how you are going to host this game. So it's either going to read "Standard TWG game" or there's going to be a big description with all of your game changes.
Swiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members Posts: 7,019Man, sorry I missed this whole thing. I kindof stopped paying attention after I got killed . Whatever goes on I want to be involved. This is really not the time for me to be offering to host the next TWG (may be starting a new job within the next two weeks, won't have much time) but I'll definately play if I hit the signup thread on time!O_O
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QUOTE (Soul Rider @ Apr 25 2005, 11:25 AM) I'm just waiting for that sign up thread to appear.....
fingers poised........
Don't worry. There will be lots of advance notice. At the very least, a thread will be posted in Off-Topic saying when signups will begin. That thread will be stickied and locked for several days until signups begin. When signups start, the thread will be unstickied and unlocked, and everyone gets to rush to get a spot.
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My step-dad and I occasionally look around the state for parts and vehicles we could grab and resell. We don't find much besides a spankin deal on a built 44 that fell through, but he has found 2 CJ-7's local on Craigslist that he wanted my opinion on. They both appear a little worse for wear but we'd like to take them, clean them up, and send them off, replacing any broken or worn out parts. We don't want to deal with engine or tranny rebuilds or replacing cases or new paint. Just maintenance and minor repairs. For a little background, I have an '04 TJ, he has a '92(?) YJ and used to own a CJ-5 Renegade.
Anyways, here's what we have:
It looks pretty rough but the price isn't terrible. We're pretty confident we could get $1200. I'm a little concerned with the waviness under the drivers door, whether it is an illusion or not. It also seems the engine may have some issues but does run. The top and 2 pairs of doors appear in good shape. Worst case it could be a part-out.
This one concerns me a little more. I really question what the tacky diamond plate armor is covering. In the first pic, I can't tell if that is a rust spot above the rear fender in front of the armor. Looks like a similar spot that may have been filled on the other side. The paint also looks faded from the side, but it's hard to tell. Obviously the tacky 4x4 decals would have to come off. I feel like the price would need to come down significantly to make it worthwile, and the seller seems a bit of a jackhole.
Anyways, let me know what you guys think. I'd really enjoy getting one fixed up a little nicer and get it on the road but I just have to know if it is worthwhile. My step-dad was concerned that if I posted, somebody would try to snatch them up. I had to reassure him you guys weren't like that. :2thumbsup:
That second one supposedly has a V6? Huh, that would be odd.
The first one probably has had some damage to it based on that waviness - it looks real.
Always remember, never pay more than what you can get for parts. The first one looks like you could part it out and recover your costs if you had to. The second one, well...
CJ 1 was T-Boned, and poorly repaired. It will rust through by August. And the Bondo will flake off on the way home.
CJ 2 has diamond plate slapped over rust. You'll be shot if you point this out or try to get the price down.
BOTH are nightmares.
If I understand your biz model, you find solid vehicles, spiff them up nice, do the scheduled/needed maintainence and flip 'em. Sounds like a good plan. IMHO, CJs are not conducive to this. Almost all that make sense on paper WILL have rust. While the drivetrains are very good, there are alot of parts that can go bad. Basically 2 trannys, 2 drive axles, etc...
Unless you want to buy 70%-90% completed, but abandonded (sp) projects and finish them...stay away. Usmade ually all the parts are there, rust fixed and drivetrain already re-furbed.Some assembly required. Keep in mind your buy in will be 5-9k and another 1-3k to finish. But you will make 3-5k on each unit.
Personally, the money to be made is in the XJs. I call them "Baby Grands, or box Jeeps. They have a solid driveline, tons of J-yard parts, easy to work on.
Sorta like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHERO...item35c3da3662
Good luck. And remember this is just 1 clowns opinion that's been around jeeps 4-evah, and sold them in the '80s.
Edit: when my brother sold jeeps in the '90s, he bought abuot 5 ratty trade in XJs/year at wholesale, did what you did, and made a killing!
buy the Jeeps,
get them running good, give them a good wash job and a couple coats of wax.
sell in the spring:
if they have tops, take them off
wait until its a beautiful warm spring day
young men are not out looking for love, they are out looking for old jeeps that run good and have no top.
the jeeps should sell like hot cakes.
Good luck, there is always a market for an old jeep in the spring
I can agree w/wellmax. Maybe rattle can 'em flat black if the paint is shot?
How about a '73 Commando? Has a V8 that supposedly runs great. I think if we got this, we'd be keeping it for ourselves. Just too cool. Obviously in rough shape but since it has no title it'd be a trail only rig anyways. I figure if we got it for $800 that would be a sweet deal.
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DICE has released a 60-second television spot for their upcoming shooter Battlefield 4. In the commercial, players talk about the favorite moments that they experienced in the game.
There are a lot of shooters out there to choose from. The case DICE is making to gamers with Battlefield 4 is that this game offers experiences that no other shooter can. No other shooter provides multiplayer battles this massive or with this much destruction. It's a sandbox in which these crazy "Battlefield moments" can occur.
Levolution, the silly buzz word to describe the new dynamic elements of the multiplayer maps, has a huge presence in the ad. We see the skyscraper in "Siege of Shanghai" toppling over for the umpteenth time. In another map, we see a battleship running ashore. These events have a definite effect on the course of a battle. The skyscraper's collapse kills any soldiers guarding the capture point on the roof and moves the point to the newly formed pile of rubble by the shore.
These moments are only a narrow part of the BF4 experience - you can only knock down the skyscraper once per match, after all. However, they're effective at conveying the basic point here: players have a huge amount of control over the environment in BF4. In addition to activating these huge set piece explosions, they can also rip apart the map piece by piece with gunfire and explosives. Players can also interact with the maps in less destructive ways, such as raising bollards on roads or activating shutters on a storefront's windows.
I really love how the advertisement is structured as a series of confessionals. One of the best parts about gaming is trading war stories, whether it's through forums or YouTube or chats with your friends. Jumping off out of a wrecked helicopter and blowing up a tank with a lucky RPG shot while you're floating down in a parachute is awesome. It's even better, though, if there's someone else who can share in that moment. It's smart of DICE and EA to recognize the social aspect of gaming in this commercial. Social interaction's clearly something they're striving for in the game as well through the Battlelog network.
Battlefield 4 is currently in open beta on Xbox 360, PS3 and PC. The beta allows access to the Conquest, Domination and Obliteration modes on the "Siege of Shanghai" map. DICE will be shutting down the test tomorrow in preparation for the game's launch later in the month. You can read more about the game by checking out our impressions of the beta.
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As the popular Christmas song says, it's the most wonderful time of the year. If you love shopping and finding the perfect gifts for everyone on your list, the day after Thanksgiving, which traditionally kicks off the Christmas season, is probably the most wonderful day of the year. Also called Black Friday, this date is when may stores start making a profit for the year, thanks in part to the great deals they use to get customers in the stores. If you do some savvy shopping, you can come out of the day having made purchases at rock-bottom prices.
Use Technology to Get News: You want to be completely up-to-date with information on the latest sales from all of your favorite stores. As Black Friday approaches, sign up for newsletters from your favorite brands and follow social media accounts to get the scoop on what deals your store will be offering. As the big day nears, you can expect to receive the latest updates and notifications of any last-minute additions to the big sales. You also may receive printable coupons (and often coupons you can show on your smartphone) to get additional discounts when you come into the store.
Make a List, Check it Twice: Just like Santa Claus, you need to make a detailed list of what you want to find when you're shopping. Start by listing everyone you plan to buy a gift for this year. Then brainstorm a few ideas of what each person might want for Christmas, plus a budget for the maximum you can spend on that person. Having this list ready saves you from blindly wandering through ads (or even worse, stores) looking for gifts when you don't even know who you're shopping for or what they like.
Plan Early What to Buy: You don't have to wait for the newspaper on Thanksgiving day to get the full list of deals that will be available on Black Friday. Many stores put their ads online several weeks in advance, and even if they had hoped to keep the secret, many sites aggregate ads that have leaked. Do your research now to check out the available deals and match them up with the list you have already created. Your goal is to select a gift for each person, plus a backup gift if the first one is gone, and to limit yourself to the number of stores you can reasonably get to in one day, taking into account the fact that many have long lines.
Map out a Plan of Attack: Your last task is to make a plan for how your day is going to go. Take note of when each store opens and figure out what order you will go to the stores. If two stores open at the exact same time, consider teaming up with a friend or family member so one of you can be at each store and get things for each other. It also helps to bring a family member with you to get in line at the cash registers while you go through the store and get items on your list.
With some careful planning, you can get almost all of your shopping done in one fell swoop without going over your budget. Whether you're a seasoned veteran or a newbie, Black Friday has deals for you, and you just have to do your part to make sure you get them. Once you shop your first year, you'll probably find yourself going back year after year to continue the tradition of saving money.
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Just a quick post this morning. For any who follow my chapter-a-day posts I want to let you know that a rather insane business travel schedule coupled with it being production week for my play Ham Buns and Potato Salad is going to make my posts a bit sporadic this week.
There is, however, a bit of irony in the way things have unfolded which I'd like to share. In all my travels around the country and and around the globe, I've never been to New York City. Late last week I found out I had to make a quick business trip to the Big Apple to visit a client. So after a long day of meetings today I'll fly to New York for a day full of meetings tomorrow at my client's office…on Broadway.
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American Foods, King's Command merge
King's Command Foods will feature the combined cooking operations of King's Command Foods and American Prepared Foods, a division of American Foods Group.
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by Bryan Salvage
GREEN BAY, Wis. – A definitive agreement to form a new company --King's Command Foods LLC –has been reached and will feature the combined cooking operations of King's Command Foods Inc., Kent, Washington, and American Prepared Foods, a division of American Foods Group LLC, of Green Bay, Wis. Terms of the deal were not made public and the transaction is expected to close in early August.
The new company will be based in Kent, Washington and will operate production facilities in Kent, Versailles, Ohio and Oklahoma City, Okla. It will become part of American Foods Group companies and offer a wide variety of fully cooked and ready-to-cook protein products servicing distributors, foodservice and retailers nationwide. The new company will be headed by Ron Baer, current president of King's Command Foods Inc.
Harvey Baer began King's Command Foods in the early 1950s and it has since evolved into a pre-cooked and oven-ready proteins industry leader.
"Ron Baer and his family have continued to build their father's company into the industry leader it is today," said Tom Rosen, American Foods Group, LLC CEO. "This merger continues American Foods Group vertical integration into protein processing.
Privately held American Foods Group LLC has nationwide operations, including supplying fresh beef to US and international markets plus fully cooked protein products from its Oklahoma facility. Meanwhile, King's Command Food, Inc., is a privately-held manufacturer of portion-controlled, pre-cooked and ready-to-cook meat products to foodservice and retail segments


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"HENGRAVE, a parish in the hundred of Thingoe, county Suffolk, 4 mile N.W. of Bury St. Edmund's, its post town. The parish, which is of small extent, is intersected by the navigable river Lark, over which is a bridge. The tithes have been commuted for a rent-charge of £241. The living is a rectory annexed to that of Flempton, in the diocese of Ely. The church is a small edifice of considerable antiquity, and has a round tower. It is still kept up as a mausoleum, and contains many monuments, including the tombs of the Kitsons, Gages, Bourchiers, earls of Bath, and several other families who have resided at the hall. It is void of seats and pulpit, and has not been in use as a church for upwards of two hundred years, the inhabitants frequenting the church of Flempton. The charities include Lady Kitson's almshouses, which are divided into four tenements, and endowed with a rent-charge of £30 per annum. Near the ancient church is Hengrave Hall, built by Sir Thomas Kytson in the reign of Henry VIII. It is a noble building in the Tudor style, and is built of brick with stone facings. It has a fine gateway and three-faced bay window with rich tracery, arms, &c. The mansion is situated in an extensive park, and is the seat of Sir Thomas Rokewood Gage, Bart., who is lord of the manor."
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Mewelde Jaem Cadere Moore (born July 24, 1982 in Hammond, Louisiana) is an American football running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers of the National Football League. He was originally drafted by the Minnesota Vikings in the fourth round of the 2004 NFL Draft. He played college football at Tulane, just down the road from his hometown of Baton Rouge, LA where he was a standout performer at Belaire High School.
Moore is only the 2nd player in NCAA history to rush for 4,000 yards and have 2,000 yards receiving in a career, joining former Viking Darrin Nelson (Stanford). Moore ranks 11th in Division I history in all-purpose yards with 6,505 yards. He ran for 100+ yards in 22 games to set Tulane and Conference USA records. His 36 career TDs rank 2nd in Tulane and C-USA history. Moore ran for 1,138 yards as a junior and 1,421 as a sophomore, respectively, to set Tulane's single-season rushing record. Moore was also drafted in the 4th round of the 2000 Major League Baseball draft by the San Diego Padres. He spent three summers in the organization while in college.
In 2000, Moore was named C-USA's Freshman of the Year. He was also a Freshman All-America choice by The Sporting News and Football News. Moore started 7 of the 10 games he played in on the season. He hauled in a 74-yard scoring pass against Army. Posted a season-high 131 rushing yards and had 56 receiving yards against East Carolina. He carried the ball for 114 yards against Cincinnati. He also had 100-yards rushing against Memphis and Southern Methodist.


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Mudita Bhavana (Joyful Appreciation) guided meditation, led by Bodhipaksa (Day 65)
Here's a video of a guided meditation I led the other day on the practice of mudita bhavana, developing joyful appreciation.
The actual meditation is about 45 minutes in length. There's a little talk beforehand and some discussion afterward.


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Weet-Bix™ makes delicious baked goodies as well as cereal. This malt loaf is perfect for afternoon tea.
- 5 Weet-Bix, finely crushed (a food processor works well, or hands)
- 3 cups (710 ml) wholemeal plain/all-purpose flour, sifted
- 1 teaspoon (4.9 ml) mixed spice
- 1 cup (240 ml) sultanas or raisins
- 1⁄2 cup (120 ml) firmly packed brown sugar
- 1 teaspoon (4.9 ml) bicarbonate of soda (baking soda)
- 1 tablespoon (15 ml) hot water
- 1 1⁄4 cups (300 ml) milk (dairy, soy or rice)
- 1⁄2 cup (120 ml) treacle
- Malt powder
1Preheat the oven to moderate, 160ºC.
2Put the flour, spice, sultanas, brown sugar and crushed Weet-Bix into a large bowl. Mix together well.
3In a separate jug, mix together the bicarbonate of soda and a tablespoon of hot water into the milk.
4Heat the treacle and malt powder in a small saucepan until it begins to boil and pour in the milk mixture. It will begin to foam. Stir the foaming mixture into the flour mixture. Mix well.
5Pour the mixture into a loaf pan that has been lined with baking paper.
6Place in the oven and cook for one and a quarter hours, or until cooked when tested.
7Remove from the oven and allow to cool on a wire cake rack. It is also great warm with melted butter or other spread.
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Have to admit I didn't love this duet as much as the judges seem to...
Have to admit I didn't love this duet as much as the judges seem to...
I didn't love it that much either - it was good but I thought they were singing it in two different genres.
It is the song from Once. I love that song.
Wake up and be awesome
I so loved that....
"To err is human, to arr is a pirate"
I think Crystal may have been better off singing with one of the other two but the judges liked it and I guess that counts for something.
The duet was decent. Lee seemed to have a bit more confidence with someone else up there, maybe.
Casey doing The Graduate? Hmm...
It was me. I let the dogs out.
For me they could have kept singing the rest of the hour!Originally Posted by KofferMum;3900213;
"To err is human, to arr is a pirate"
Please tell me the duets will be available on Itunes!!?
Saving one dog does not change the world, but it does change the world of that one dog.
I think Lee is a cool person, but I have always thought he is horrendously off key, out of tune, week after week after week. I don't get why the judges have worshipped him so much.
Tonight can only help Crystal.
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Puy-l'Évêque is a commune of France situated in the Lot department, within the Midi-Pyrénées region.
Puy-l'Évêque is a medieval village.
Picturesquely situated at the neck of a long loop of the Lot in Quercy on the RN (Route Nationale) 111 between Fumel and Cahors, Puy-l'Évêque lies in the wine growing district known by the appellation dorigine contrôlée of "Cahors Vineyards".
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jjcordier (79297) 2014-05-13 23:46
Joli cadrage de ces trois beaux bâtiments de ce village que la vue générale en WS donne envie de visiter.
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Hello Cedric,
Your picture is nice with these three restaured buildings.
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A much-anticipated meeting between President Barack Obama and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders came and went Thursday without any apparent impact on the Vermont senator's plans to remain in the race.
Sanders has been under mounting pressure to bow out of his long-shot White House bid since former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton became the party's presumptive nominee following the Puerto Rico primary earlier this month. Some speculated his recent meeting with the current president would serve as a final nudge in that direction.
Nevertheless, the Independent senator vowed in remarks made shortly after the meeting to stay in the race and advance his socialist-inspired message.
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After taking a few shots at presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump, Sanders shared his goal of taking a firm message to next month's Democratic National Convention.
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Sanders went on to say that he will "do everything in [his] power … to make sure that Donald Trump does not become the president of the United States."
In addition to his clear denunciation of Trump, the 74-year-old senator shared a few of the policies he hopes to present to voters in Washington, D.C., ahead of the convention.
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"This is the last primary of the Democratic nominating process," he said. "The major point that I will be making at the citizens of the District of Columbia is that I am strongly in favor of D.C. statehood."
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Low Carb Italian Walnut Cake
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- 12 ounces (340 g) walnuts
- 1/2 cup (100 g) polyol sweetener, divided
- 4 eggs
- 1 pinch cream of tartar
- 3/4 cup (18 g) Splenda®
- 2 teaspoons lemon zest
- 1 pinch salt
- 2 tablespoons (30 g) extra Splenda® for topping
- Preheat oven to 350°F (180°C). Spray a 9" (22.5 cm) springform pan with nonstick cooking spray, and line the bottom with a circle of baking parchment, or a reusable Teflon pan liner.
- Put the walnuts in your food processor with the S-blade in place. Pulse till nuts are chopped medium-fine. Add 2 tablespoons (25 g) of the polyol sweetener, and pulse until nuts are finely ground but not oily. (Don't over process. You don't want nut butter!)
- Separate your eggs. Since even the tiniest speck of egg yolk will cause the whites to stubbornly refuse to whip, do yourself a big favor and separate each one into a small dish or cup before adding the white to the bowl you plan to whip them in! Then, if you break one yolk, you've only messed up that white. (Give that one to the dog, or save it for scrambled eggs for breakfast.)
- Put the whites in a deep, narrow mixing bowl, and put the yolks in a larger mixing bowl. Add the pinch of cream of tartar to the whites, and using your electric mixer (not a blender or food processor!), whip egg whites until they stand in stiff peaks. Set aside.
- In a larger bowl, beat the yolks with the rest of the polyol sweetener, and all of the Splenda®, until the mixture is pale yellow and very creamy-at least 3 to 4 minutes. beat in the lemon zest and the salt. Stir the ground walnuts into the yolk mixture-you can use the electric mixer, but the mixture will be so thick, I think a spoon is easier. When that's well combined, gently fold in the egg whites, using a rubber scraper, a third at a time, incorporating each third well before adding the next.
- When all the egg whites are folded in, gently pour batter into the prepared pan. Bake for 45 minutes. Sprinkle top with the 2 additional tablespoons Splenda® while cake is hot, then let cool before serving. Cut in thin wedges to serve.
- Per Serving: 194 calories; 18 g fat; 9 g protein; 4 g carbohydrate; 1 g dietary fiber; 3 g usable carb.
- Carb count does not include polyol sweetener.
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Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Network Expands In Schoharie County
Verizon Wireless recently activated new 4G LTE coverage on a site in Schoharie County, expanding and filling in coverage on the high-speed data network it launched locally in August 2011. 4G LTE lets Verizon Wireless customers use their 4G LTE-enabled devices to surf the Web, post status updates and photos, share music, and download files at speeds up to 10 times faster than customers on 3G networks.<
New 4G LTE site is located in Cobleskill. For street-level detail of coverage and more, please visit www.verizonwireless.com/4GLTE.
Two years after its launch, the Verizon 4G LTE network is available to more than 273 million people across the U.S. - close to 89 percent of the U.S. population.


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Cliff Vandercave has abducted Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm. Now it's up to Fred to rescue them. He will have to find his way through 45 levels of hilarious action and adventure. As the game progresses, Fred will have to use some pre-historic inventions to get around including his foot-powered car. Prepare to wrestle some dinosaurs and bring the little ones home safely in THE FLINTSTONES.
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- Based on the feature film; 45 levels; use pre-historic inventions; multiple environments to explore; modern day animation
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A run down ex-mining town in South Wales has risen up against government cuts to gain funding for a £792,000 community centre. Seven years of campaigning for state backing were stumped by widespread government spending cuts and the town turned to Spacehive.com which acts as an online platform for individuals, businesses and organisations to donate money to deserving building schemes.
Founder of Spacehive.com (which was co-designed by Deloitte) Chris Gourlay, explains: "This isn't about privatising planning. The state mustn't shrink from its responsibilities. It's just an approach that allows communities to cut through the inertia and make popular projects happen. We think town planning should be faster, more people-powered, and more fun."
With the final donation of £12,000 bestowed by Tesco Charity Trust, the Glyncoch Community Centre now has the appropriate backing to progress. Local businesses and corporate enterprises will run a series of training programmes from the centre to encourage young people to push themselves and reverse the high unemployment rate in the area. There will also be IT facilities, a games room, cheer-leading classes, Taekwondo, fitness programmes and sporting amenities.


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Fear City
"No showgirl is safe on the streets of... Fear City."
Strippers are the victims in New York when a serial killer starts preying on them. This killer is a professional in martial arts. When the owners of the strip clubs come together, they hire someone who can give the killer some competition.
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Henrik Stenson has won the Dubai Desert Classic.
The Swede - who's based in the United Arab Emirates - shot a 4-under 68 held off the challenge of three times champion Ernie Els with the world number one Tiger Woods finishing third.
Els, who led Stenson by two shots going into today's final round, shot three bogeys to finish at 71.
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hey i found this video on youtube and i really liked it, albert king playing and people sayin what the blues means to them....
hope you enjoy too
Crazy 9.5 Fingers wrote:sounds great, no link.
BuddhaG wrote:LazyLightnin wrote:"gotta pay yer dues if ya wanna sing the blues ......and you know it dont come easy".
what song is that? i haven't heard that in so long!!!
BuddhaG wrote:haha maybe it's not so bad... i'm not 21 yet so i can't get into many places... any suggestions though?
i grew up in the suburbs around Boston... got the hell out of here and went to school in Montreal. not in the city but on the outskirts like 45 minute bus ride from downtown. the whole legal drinking and cheap weed thing really makes it... the cops aren't hounding your ass all the time.
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