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Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:23 PM
Odin2005 (53,521 posts)
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"My Rapist Doesn't Know He's A Rapist" (Original post)
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Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:29 PM
GreenPartyVoter (67,438 posts)
1. It is stunning that we still have these attitudes in this day and age.
We should be better than that.
Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #1)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:37 PM
Odin2005 (53,521 posts)
2. I posted it because ir reminded me of a friend of mine who was raped.
Response to Odin2005 (Reply #2)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:17 PM
pnwmom (86,377 posts)
76. Thank you, Odin2005!
Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #1)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:41 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
3. we have been dehumanizing women to such an extent, it really is not surprising or stunning.
from every direction of our society there is a concerted effort to normalize disrespect of women.
Response to seabeyond (Reply #3)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:02 PM
BlancheSplanchnik (17,040 posts)
56. hear here!
you said it, sea. Exactly right.
Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #56)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:04 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
64. i havent seen you for a while
it is always good to hear from you.
hear here. lol. which one. here here as in present. or hear hear as in i hear you.
i do the same
Response to seabeyond (Reply #64)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:50 PM
BlancheSplanchnik (17,040 posts)
86. thanks sea :)
I moved recntly and the last year or so has just been stressssssssssfulllllllllll. Blecchh.
Now starting a new, better phase. So just haven't been talky too much, in general.
Anyhow, I always felt like "Hear here" was like "yeah, everyone should hear this comment here!"...kind of like that.....
Response to seabeyond (Reply #3)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:17 PM
chknltl (10,557 posts)
67. And then there are those who push back against the darkness.
Sooooo many just don't get it. Because they don't understand, your fight is one of desperation! It has gone on past our collective memory. More and more are waking up, in my heart I know that you WILL win. We have had it backwards for far too long, it is not "might makes right", instead it is "right makes might"! YOU. ARE. RIGHT., this is your strength. Keep educating, keep fighting and one day, Martin Luther King will have it more than his dream come true. Not just 'God's Children' but ALL EARTH'S CHILDREN will be equal. My hat is off to all who carry the torch.
Response to chknltl (Reply #67)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:21 AM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
89. you
are so inspiring. thank you so much for your posts..... always.
Response to seabeyond (Reply #89)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:56 PM
chknltl (10,557 posts)
96. We each do what we can.
Response to seabeyond (Reply #3)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:17 PM
calimary (46,037 posts)
77. It's an absolute national disgrace! Do they not realize we are in the 21st Century?
Not the 19th? Not the 17th, not the 11th, OR the 6th.
I don't get it, and I find it utterly revolting!!!!
Response to calimary (Reply #77)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:23 AM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
91. they get it. and they miss the past. they want it back. but ya,
men as a whole get that we are not that.
instead of seeing the benefits and opportunity to be their authentic self, they see a loss in control and dominance. control and dominance never works as a whole. a woman may allow the disrespect, but only so long before their is a pay back. it simple does not work. we dont allow it as human beings. regardless of gender.
Response to seabeyond (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:20 AM
4th law of robotics (6,801 posts)
93. Rape and assault is down across the board
including against women.
So this dehumanizing trend you're citing doesn't really seem to result in differences in crime stats.
/before someone says it: no I am not arguing that no women are raped, or that any amount of rape is ok. Or that attempts to limit abortion access are acceptable. Merely pointing out that the crime stats have been positive for the past few decades.
Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #1)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:18 PM
Blue_Tires (49,384 posts)
83. +1
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:44 PM
mazzarro (3,356 posts)
4. My regards for the lady taking a tough stand!
She will forever have my support - 100%.
Response to mazzarro (Reply #4)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:26 PM
susanna (4,918 posts)
29. Mine too. n/t
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:52 PM
Tigress DEM (7,887 posts)
5. I heard a story... In a 60's Women's Studies class one brave man, a policeman....
In a 60's Women's Studies class one brave man, a policeman, was saying that the "mini-skirt" was certainly part of the problem when it came to an increase in rape cases.
The teacher promptly asked him, "So Officer X, how many more women have YOU raped since the mini-skirt came into fashion?"
"NONE! I'm not a rapist."
"Well, there you go. The mini-skirt doesn't make you turn into a rapist and it is only an excuse for a rapist to do what he's going to do anyway."
Response to Tigress DEM (Reply #5)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:35 PM
Igel (26,398 posts)
16. The argument's extendible.
Most don't. And when you try, you get strange results.
Leave the windows down to your car, the diamonds on the front seat next to the keys and the Wii, and when they're stolen few say, "How horrible. Property is inviolate, and you did nothing foolish or imprudent."
If a teacher leaves an answer key to the final on his desk first thing in the morning and by 3rd period the students have spread around the answers, they've broken the rules. They may be punished. But you know that the principle won't tell the teacher, "You acted wisely and without blame. Who could have predicted that the kids would be dishonest?"
It's a slippery-slope argument. They're slippery. Usually it means that there's some undefined term in the argument just asking to be explicated. So it is in this case.
Try this one. Banking regulations don't matter. Honest bankers will behave honestly; dishonest ones will behave dishonestly. The weak regulations were just an excuse for dishonest bankers to do what they'd have done anyway, and stronger regulations wouldn't have helped in the least.
See? That's one's just plain distasteful. Parallel, but distasteful. That's a clue that there's something missing in the logic.
There's the severity of the outcome and the predictability of outcome. If a bad outcome is severe but not very likely, we like to have laws and behavior altered to avoid the bad outcome. If bad outcome isn't very severe but is common we expect people to alter their behavior to avoid the bad outcome. Most people don't like to be told to alter their behavior and are left with temptation and opportunity are unrelated to the crime because in some cases temptation and opportunity are fairly unrelated. However, we accept it in many cases. If you leave all your presents in the trunk, with the trunk open, most people blame themselves and not the thief.
When assigning blame, there's often more than 100%. Leave your presents out in high-crime area and the thiefs shouldn't steal them, but you're also responsible. It's not split 50-50 or 60-40, it's split 100-40 (as a guess). This works out bad in liability awards, but works well in a lot of other areas.
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:12 PM
eggplant (2,999 posts)
19. You're honestly going to try to defend the "she was asking for it" meme?
Response to eggplant (Reply #19)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:17 PM
joeglow3 (6,228 posts)
66. Do you tell your daughters to get hammered and walk through a frat, naked on a friday night?
NO ONE is saying a woman deserves it. We are saying we teach our daughters to be smart about the situations they put themselves in. Quit being so dramatic.
Response to joeglow3 (Reply #66)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:23 PM
truebrit71 (20,805 posts)
69. Even if they were hammered, butt naked and walked though a frat on a friday night..
STILL doesn't mean they are "asking for it"....and STILL doesn't make it okay for anyone to force themselves upon them...
What a fucking stupid thing to say....
Unless and until the woman confirms that she is a willing participant in the activity NO MEANS NO!!!!
Response to truebrit71 (Reply #69)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:21 AM
joeglow3 (6,228 posts)
I don't know how I can be any clearer when I say "THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT." I am talking about simple, basic, 3rd grade statistics here.
I don't tell my daughter if she does that she deservese to get raped. I don't tell her no suddenly means yes. I am merely teaching her common sense.
I really don't know how to make a fundamentally simple statement any simplier.
Response to joeglow3 (Reply #66)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:04 PM
eggplant (2,999 posts)
84. I'm being dramatic?
Rights are rights. Everyone has the right to not be raped. Period.
Rapists rape. It's not about who their victims are, what they are wearing, or whether they drink. It's about one person commiting an act of violence upon another person unprovoked.
Would you be able to not rape someone who happened to be dressed in some particular way and was drunk? I know I wouldn't have the first urge to rape someone. Regardless of what they were wearing. Regardless of whether they were intoxicated. Regardless.
Rapists rape. Stop apologizing for their violent criminal behavior.
Response to eggplant (Reply #84)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:23 AM
joeglow3 (6,228 posts)
92. No, you are being obtuse.
I NEVER said rape was okay. I NEVER said a woman deserves it. I NEVER said "no" means "yes."
What I DID say is that people should pay attention to simple statistics. NO ONE deserves to get murdered. However, I will still tell my kids to backpack through the rockies and not Syria.
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:50 PM
TomClash (11,344 posts)
22. You're right about one thing
Once your argument started, it sloped downward pretty quickly.
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:22 AM
lolly (3,248 posts)
32. Absolute key difference in the situations
Answer keys and diamonds are things, not people. They cannot consent or withhold consent.
People can voice their objections, cry, try to escape.
Things such as diamonds are already property. Theft transfers property from one person to another illegally.
People are NOT property. Turning them into property--as rape does, by making them subject to your will--represents an entirely different type of crime.
The law recognizes distinct differences between theft of property and harm to others. That is not a slippery slope; it is a clear line.
Response to lolly (Reply #32)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:31 AM
LadyHawkAZ (6,197 posts)
88. ^best response
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:48 AM
Tigress DEM (7,887 posts)
33. Doesn't really wash.
The woman from the OP was raped by her (now ex) boyfriend.
Women in the 60's wore mini-skirts, but rapists rape 80 year old ladies too. NO.
To extend the argument I made to the woman in the OP - he was her boyfriend, she'd probably already done allowed him in her car without repercussions, and if there were diamonds on the front seat next to the keys and the Wii he'd never stolen them before and he'd never raped her before either.
Here's the thing. RAPE isn't about SEX. It isn't about desire. It's about POWER. This bozo HAD her as a girlfriend. If she wanted to wait and he didn't, then he needed to negotiate or find another willing partner. INSTEAD he chose to violate her trust and take what he wanted.
To extend the argument I made to the teacher and the answer key. Wearing a mini skirt or being in a private place with someone you have previously trusted, isn't like having the answer key on your desk and walking away. A rapist is going after the "key" that's safely tucked away in a private place and a rapist has to go through a person to get at that key. So again, this layer of blame you are assigning is a myth and the example not even comparable.
To extend the argument I made to the Bankers and regulations. Wearing a mini skirt or being in a private place with someone you have previously trusted, isn't like expecting that every banker is an honest banker. We aren't talking about money and some manipulation of funds or hidden accounting books, we are talking about physical, personal violation. Rape is already against the law. Banking regulations that would be stronger would regulate the bankers not the customer. So stronger laws against rape should not penalize the victim either.
If you leave all your presents in the trunk, with the trunk open, most people blame themselves and not the thief.
So if you have the trunk open because your boyfriend/girlfriend is supposed to be helping you bring them into the house and the boyfriend/girlfriend changes their mind and steals all the presents and beats you and tells you that you deserved it, then you blame yourself, not the person who just flipped into phsyco mode on you?
Or if you have a hatch back instead of a car with a trunk and even though your presents aren't showing there is more window to view inside of your car, so that makes it your fault when a thief uses a crowbar on your window, takes your presents and beats you while telling you it's your fault.
Response to Tigress DEM (Reply #33)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:15 AM
TorchTheWitch (11,065 posts)
36. I have no idea why you think she was raped by her ex-boyfriend
All she says about her ex-boyfriend is that he - like her friends - blamed her for her rape. No doubt that's how he became her ex-boyfriend. And likely for all the reasons she cited in her story... she drank too much, she flirted, she wore a short skirt, etc. What is unfortunately too common is that the men in women's lives that have suffered being raped not only blame them for being raped but also look at them as "damaged goods" and get angry at HER that SHE "allowed" HIS "property" to be "ruined". Seems clear that her then-boyfriend did just that with how he reacted about her being raped - not just blaming her for it but being angry at HER for "allowing" his "property" to be "ruined" as if her rape was something evil that SHE did to HIM.
The point she was making is that not only doesn't her rapist believe he is a rapist but that neither did her boyfriend or her friends and all because of what society taught them to believe about rape - that it was HER fault and that she even instigated it happening because she drank too much, flirted and wore a short skirt.
I just can't for the life of me imagine from what she wrote on her sign why in the world you believe that it was her then-boyfriend that was her rapist.
Response to TorchTheWitch (Reply #36)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:25 AM
SemperEadem (8,053 posts)
47. I come away with the same thing, too
I do not interpret her sign to mean that her ex boyfriend raped her. I take away that she was out, was inibriated,and someone there attacked her. When her boyfriend found out, he spit in her face and called her a whore and her friends turned their back because sometimes, the circumference of destruction following a rape is wide and viscious.
Response to TorchTheWitch (Reply #36)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:09 PM
Tigress DEM (7,887 posts)
97. Title of the OP - "My Rapist Doesn't Know He's A Rapist"
Have you ever heard of "date rape"? It happens.
And rethugs, they think that a woman who they are in relationship with are there to service them no matter what. In fact, if married, they believe it is a God given right.
I'll go back and read it again, but my initial impression was that her boyfriend took what he wanted and then blamed her for fighting back.
Response to TorchTheWitch (Reply #36)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:20 PM
Tigress DEM (7,887 posts)
98. OK, I see what you are saying now. Boyfriend only an ass.
Still for purposes of the comparison, the slippery slope analogies did not wash and THAT was the main gist of my post.
"White collar crimes" DO do a lot of damage, but their perpetrators are not physically violating someone and can delude themselves on the extent of damage because they don't SEE the other person.
A rapist is there, in the flesh doing the deed, and REGARDLESS of whether the girl made poor choices that allowed her to become the target of a violent criminal, it's plain wrong to ALLOW a rapist to use such a flimsy excuse for his behavior. NO means NO. Laws need to punish the person who commits the crime, not the one victimized by it.
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:22 AM
lunatica (34,586 posts)
37. You talk about logic by bringing up totally unrelated arguments
Rape is rape. Period.
Read response #5 again.
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:18 AM
drynberg (1,648 posts)
41. Click and Clack would rate the above response with
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:56 AM
Oilwellian (12,647 posts)
48. My God
Your post is absolutely repulsive. In fact, it's fucking creepy. Did you write that from prison?
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:00 AM
gollygee (20,906 posts)
49. Are you comparing men holding themselves back from raping women
to students holding themselves back from peeking at answers to a test?
Do you think men have difficulty not raping women and if a woman in short shorts walks past them that will tip them over to becoming rapists? Because that's how your post reads.
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:18 PM
1StrongBlackMan (31,849 posts)
68. It's, also, extendable the other way ...
"She wasn't wearing a full burka and her hands wear visible ... so she acted imprudently."
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:25 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
72. To extend on your argument
(my version ) is that--no human being is to blame for being raped, the responsibility lies with the rapist.
The key is we are talking about apples and oranges when we compare sociopaths, who have no ethics, to law abiding people who are self governing. Regulations are put in place to protect the public against sociopathic behaviors, whether it is raping a woman or raping the environment.
Common sense and street smarts tell us they are out there, predatory behavior lives in the human race, that is a fact. Any victim who has messed up and ended up a victim lives with this as well as the crime for the rest of their life as well. (I shouldn't have opened the door for that stranger!!)
In my opinion is THIS is why we need laws -- to provide a strong enough CONSEQUENCE for breaking them, because this is the only way to control sociopaths. We cannot rid ourselves of these people, but we can structure our society so that we are protected against their behaviors.
Sociopaths are the ones who are derailing this whole issue by focusing on the victims, because they do not want regulations, they want a free for all so they can continue raping and pillaging.
Most sociopaths are incapable of calling themselves rapists or criminals.
Great post, and great thread! Peace, felix
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:32 PM
obamanut2012 (13,887 posts)
73. Do you not realize how appalling your post is?
Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #73)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:18 AM
joeglow3 (6,228 posts)
95. So, tell your daughter it is okay to lay naked, drunk, on a Frat floor.
I saw NOTHING excusing or justifying criminal behavior. Simple an acknowledgment that we need to recognize pieces of shit exist in our society and we need to be vigilant in protecting ourselves. Quit being obtuse.
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:44 PM
zipplewrath (11,847 posts)
75. You're losing the context
This thread has context. It is the context of the original post which outlines a case being made that we are teaching the perpatrators that they are doing nothing wrong and that the victims are totally responsible.
If you leave all your presents in the trunk, with the trunk open, most people blame themselves and not the thief.
Most people still "blame" the thief, they just ALSO blame the victim. The point being made in this thread is that we have gotten to the point where we tell the thief he's done nothing wrong, and the victim that they were not a victim.
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:54 PM
azurnoir (45,850 posts)
6. I remember back in the '80's when the then Minneapolis chief of police
Tony Bouza essentially declared open season on women by publicly declaring that any women who was inebriated in public 'deserved' what she got this was during a rash of serial rapes wherein some the victims who were for the most part Native American were being raped, murdered, and dismembered it seems things have not changed all too much since then
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 03:58 PM
HockeyMom (14,024 posts)
7. Welcome back, to the pre 80s
My younger sisters. We fought against these blame the victim laws. It looks like the Repukes and their right wing religous organizations, want we women to go back to those times.
While I am an old woman, I have 2 young daughters, who I didn't "abort". Despite their Repulican father, I taught my daughters well. They totally understand what is at stake for females in this country; both my married daugher, and my lesbian daughter. BOTH can be raped, forced to have a rapist baby, which I can tell you, NEITHER wants to do. My son-in-law feels the same. He doesn't want his WIFE to be forced to have a rapist baby.
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 04:00 PM
Chorophyll (5,179 posts)
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 04:03 PM
murielm99 (19,698 posts)
9. She is brave.
Many women are still afraid to speak of their rapes, 20, 30, 40 years later.
Response to murielm99 (Reply #9)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 04:15 PM
shireen (8,333 posts)
10. +1
that was immediate reaction too. What an amazing lady!
Response to murielm99 (Reply #9)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:06 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
27. It's that whole "damaged goods" thing.
Some people treat women who have been raped as if they should be available at a discount,...like going to an appliance store and finding a deal on a fridge with a scratch on the side.
Then there's the idiots out there who figure rape victims will hate all men and turn gay.
For the true nutcases,...you have the Lavinia solution from Titus Andronicus.
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #27)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:26 AM
lunatica (34,586 posts)
38. I agree on the 'damaged goods'
You nailed it. It's the blame the victim and the continued secondary rape of women. It's prevalent in so many parts of the world and women in this country have it 'good' compared to most of the Middle East countries. We don't get executed for being raped.
Response to lunatica (Reply #38)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:56 AM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
55. "We don't get executed for being raped."
It is "victim" in the case of robbery or assault but often "accuser" in the case of rape.
They act like you have to have vaginal tearing to prove it.
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #55)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:14 PM
lunatica (34,586 posts)
59. Even then if your skirt was too short, well it's your fault
Response to lunatica (Reply #59)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:42 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
74. Part of that is the myth that men can't control themselves....
...it depicts men as ruled by their urges and it's no coincidence that the guys who make that argument are the same ones who claim women are incapable of controlling themselves during their monthly cycle.
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #74)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:28 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
78. +1. and, when i actually say men are more than this, and defend men, i am called a "man hater"
what is that? cause i think more of men then SOME of them do about themselves?
think with the little head, dna, boys will be boys. how many times do we hear men describe themselves like this.
why? it benefits them, until it doesnt.
in this world today we have made everything wrapped around the male sexuality. awe inspiring and all powerful, 24/7.
it is going to effect all of us, pretending this nontruth.
we even have a science now being promoted in the university and society as a whole devoted solely to male sexuality in evo psych.
Response to seabeyond (Reply #78)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:44 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
79. Part of that is the culture under Capitalism where the very culture is a marketplace,...
....and it's only been recently that those who wish to separate you from your money has recognized that women have money and respond to sexually implicit messaging.
It's the old boys network who still make the call and most of them are terrified of women being sexual beings. Thus, there is a whole "fem fatale" thing still prevalent in the imagery and some of that is absorbed by the culture to where some women become a cartoon version of it in the false impression that it makes them respected.
It's also why many rapes are especially brutal. Insecure and frightened men afraid of the power of women and who feel the need to knock women down a notch and prove male power is superior.
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #79)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:00 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
80. i can go with all that.
good stuff. thanks.
Response to seabeyond (Reply #80)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:02 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
81. What can I say, most of my friends are women.
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #81)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:06 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
82. lol
and most all of mine are men, ah ha.
what a hoot.
Response to seabeyond (Reply #78)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:21 AM
4th law of robotics (6,801 posts)
94. Who here called you a "man hater" for defending men?
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 05:04 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (20,673 posts)
11. She is taking ownership of the event & power over her rapist & by extension over all rapists. Yay!
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #11)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 05:09 PM
Cha (199,813 posts)
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 06:03 PM
TahitiNut (71,611 posts)
13. I love courage!
When it's combined with integrity and intelligence, I'm hooked.
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 06:13 PM
The Traveler (5,632 posts)
14. Have we made any progress?
I wonder some times ... have we made any progress at all? And why does the "party of personal responsibility" keep pushing responsibility for THIS crime on the victim, and not the perpetrator? It feels like I have been thrown into the way-back machine.
Response to The Traveler (Reply #14)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:00 PM
Igel (26,398 posts)
18. It's a game we all play,
but we use different decks.
The first bad assumption is that there's 100% of the blame to go around. Therefore, if you blame the woman who was raped even 2% then makes the rapist only 98% guilty.
The second is putting all crimes that bear a label in the same category. I can assign a label to all sorts of things. "Shot" is an adj. and a noun; it's a small piece of metal used for shooting birds, a large piece of metal chucked by a fat sweaty guy, it's a certain amount of hard liquor, and it's an eventive noun derived from "to shoot". ("That's a fine shot, you really caught the color in his eyes in that picture!"
It's harder when the things are semantically related. See the extended quibble over "enemy" vs "foe" wrt how Putin was referred to in Romney-speak.
Response to Igel (Reply #18)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:18 PM
eggplant (2,999 posts)
20. What possible justification can you use to say that the victim deserves ANY of the blame?
If the rapist had simply beaten the hell out of her, or run her over, burned down her house, would you be making this same ridiculous argument? That somehow how she was dressed or whether she had been drinking somehow mitigate the crime?
Response to eggplant (Reply #20)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:53 PM
TomClash (11,344 posts)
23. Burkas for all!
Come on, get into the spirit!
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 06:13 PM
niyad (60,394 posts)
15. k and r
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:37 PM
jimlup (5,757 posts)
17. Sometimes behavior of individuals in our society truly shocks me...
This is one of those times.
Kudos to the young woman for standing up and speaking out.
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:20 PM
Whovian (2,866 posts)
21. Silently sobs.
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:56 PM
TomClash (11,344 posts)
24. "My friends gave me dirty looks"
"They called me trash."
Some friends.
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:57 PM
Nye Bevan (25,406 posts)
25. Whoops, thought for a moment that this was a Julian Assange thread. (nt)
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 09:58 PM
Marie Marie (5,016 posts)
26. When are these idiots going to get it that rape is NOT a sexual act.
It is an act of violence and it is all about inflicting power, control and degradation over the victim. Ask the rapist of an 80 year old woman asleep in in her bed. Was it this temptress in her granny nightie that pushed him over the edge?
People this uninformed about a violent crime are just too stupid to grace the halls of our congress - much less enact legislation on this subject. God I hate willful ignorance and the morons who swallow this shit.
Response to Marie Marie (Reply #26)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:17 PM
Odin2005 (53,521 posts)
28. Uh the rapist of the woman in the pic oviously thought it was a sexual act.
This "rape is not about sex" argument seems to be just another way to ignore acquaintance rape, which most rapes are. Plenty of times it's because of a sense of entitlement TO SEX.
Response to Odin2005 (Reply #28)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:49 PM
Marie Marie (5,016 posts)
31. Wow! I don't usually challenge people on DU assuming everyone has the right to their own opinion.
BUT - how do you KNOW he thought it was a sexual act? Because she is pretty? I worked in a Rape Crisis Center for over 5 years and whether it was stranger or acquaintance rape - the underlying motive was the same. Power and control using sex as a weapon. A 1000 other men could look at this woman as being sexually attractive and NOT rape her. A sense of entitlement to sex goes back to power and control - not hormones run amok. It takes a certain psychological pathology to commit a rape.
Response to Marie Marie (Reply #31)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:17 AM
caseymoz (5,763 posts)
51. Well, but . . .
. . . biology will tell you that when power, control and reproduction are involved, you'd do well to presume reproduction was the reason.
Especially when there are few species that reproduce exclusively by rape. Ducks, chickens are what come to mind. Perhaps a rooster wants to feel powerful, too. But his genes are demanding something else.
I hope our species isn't going in that direction, not that I'll live to find out.
Fact is, there's a certain feeling of power inherent to arousal and orgasm. So, in my opinion: you can't really separate sex from power when it comes to rape.
Response to Odin2005 (Reply #28)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:30 AM
lunatica (34,586 posts)
39. This really surprises and shocks me coming from you
Even acquaintance rapes are about power and denigration. Do you think a husband who violently rapes his wife isn't imposing his power over her? Or do you think that's different because they're obviously acquainted? Really Odin, this is so unlike you. As a matter of fact it's so unlike you that I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't mean what this statement seems to say.
Response to lunatica (Reply #39)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:33 AM
Odin2005 (53,521 posts)
43. I didn't mean to imply that it power has nothing to do with it.
What I was rejecting was the notion that sex has nothing to do with it, that power was the end unto itself and not the means to an end.
Response to Odin2005 (Reply #43)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:05 AM
lunatica (34,586 posts)
45. Look at it this way
If a man rapes you it's pretty self evident that he gets an erection so it's easy to believe that sexual desire is there. The reality of the situation is that if you fight back it should be self evident that you don't want to have sex. If he then beats you into submission or simply chokes you or puts his hand over your mouth while raping you do you really think it's sexual or do you think it's the use of his penis to dominate you?
On the other hand if a man wants to have sex with you and you say no and he doesn't overpower you then it is sexual. If you consent or not does he need to beat you up and overpower you physically?
Most men know the difference and most men have no desire to beat the woman into consenting to having sex. Most men feel that it isn't sex if they have to take it by force.
When you're on the receiving end of rape you know that the intent is not to have great sex. It's to humiliate, denigrate and hurt and force you into getting what he wants which isn't sex itself. It's to show you that he has the power to force you to do what he wants. You know this. Was your friend just getting in the way of a man having simple sex with her? You and I know the answer to that.
Response to lunatica (Reply #45)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:08 PM
caseymoz (5,763 posts)
65. You did say most men feel it isn't sex
But they wouldn't be the ones we would talk about with rapists. What of the minority that do?
And you also qualify again by saying, "When you're on the receiving end of rape you know that the intent is not to have great sex." Whether the sex is great, by most standards, is irrelevant. Whether sex was part of the intent is the question. If the rapist can get and keep an erection from it, then the sex the he got was as good as he needed it to be. Perhaps the rapist doesn't need great sex (because that's fulfilled in a relationship) or has given up on getting it and settles for just sex.
And really, if it were all about power, I would think that most rapes would involve using implements. That would seem a bit easier at least in many circumstances. I can't imagine keeping an erection during a rape. The very fact that they do, says something.
I agree with Odin, and I disagree with the majority on this. There's something else going on there besides just power. A person's genes manipulate emotions to create reproduction. If they have to do it by making the person feel powerful, then they'll mix the right emotional cocktail to do it.
Response to caseymoz (Reply #65)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:13 PM
lunatica (34,586 posts)
85. That's like saying a serial killer who gets sexual satisfaction is only doing it for sex
Rape is rape. Period.
Sometimes if a woman says no because she changes her mind the man will force her to have sex. It's still rape because men who aren't rapists will stop, even in the throes of sex, great or not.
Response to lunatica (Reply #85)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:59 AM
caseymoz (5,763 posts)
87. I never said "only."
Sex and power can certainly work side by side, and it seems to me serial killers, at least many, get sexual gratification out of what they do. I can't think of another reason to rape a corpse (Yeah, I know that's gross). I mean, there's nothing there left to subjugate.
You don't know exactly why some men stop and some don't. Naming "power" as the reason, while a brain has a lot of other things going on is still just a guess. Maybe rape simply isn't a turn on for most men? There's a such thing as empathy and sympathetic pain. Maybe they have some sense of the damage they would feel if they continued. Maybe they feel turned on only by consensual sex? Despite studies that we've been quoted that some huge percentage of men would rape if they could get away with it, that honestly is not my observation. I mean, consensual sex is a more successful reproductive course than rape, biologically speaking.
There is power involved generally in arousal and climax, except normally it passes back and forth between the partners, who are consensual. Power is involved, and it's shared, but the power wouldn't be there unless the sex were there first.
Power definitely becomes perverted in rape, but it wouldn't be rape unless it were also sexual. You can't point to the trees without pointing to the forest.
Response to Odin2005 (Reply #43)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:39 AM
ismnotwasm (33,455 posts)
53. If I am raped
Or there is an attempted rape, then it is NOT ABOUT sex to me. Why should rapists be allowed to define what sex is while the victim has to accept it?
Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #53)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:37 PM
caseymoz (5,763 posts)
70. Because it might be the truth?
In fact, that would be the only standard by which it should be defined.
Rapist doesn't get to define it, either. I don't think you could trace the scholarship on describing rape as a sexual act back to any convicted rapist. Unless you mean to say anyone who says rape is a sexual act is a rapist. In which case, it's a logical fallacy, affirming the antecedent, and I feel insulted.
Rapists aren't doing the defining. They might have the motive, but other people, not rapists, attempt to describe it. If the defining isn't being done by the criminal, the only consideration should be whether it's an accurate description. There's pretty much no mystery to the victim's motives. They have as little access to what's going on inside a rapist's head as anyone. If your entire intent is to insult the rapist, and yes, he or she deserves it, but don't do this at the cost of misleading everyone.
Absolutely no improvement can come out of that, for victims or future victims.
Response to Odin2005 (Reply #28)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:56 AM
raccoon (25,822 posts)
40. I agree--lots of times it's about power AND sex. nt
Response to raccoon (Reply #40)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:39 AM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
44. i think so too. entitlement to sex. that is ultimately about power. his want more important
the woman being insignificant. dehumanized. to be used. her worth. her position in society.
Response to raccoon (Reply #40)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:08 AM
lunatica (34,586 posts)
46. It's still rape
If you have to force someone to have sex with you it is rape. There is a line. It's not even a fine line. All you have to do is ask yourself what your reaction is when a woman says no or tells you to stop. Do you just proceed even while she struggles because you're having great sex? Or do you stop because in reality sex is about mutual consent?
Response to lunatica (Reply #46)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:44 AM
raccoon (25,822 posts)
54. You're preaching to the choir. nt
Response to raccoon (Reply #54)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:12 PM
lunatica (34,586 posts)
57. I hope so because there's doubt when you ever say rape is sex
Response to Marie Marie (Reply #26)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:32 AM
dotymed (5,610 posts)
52. +1000
Rape is NOT a sexual crime. It is an awful assault and is a crime of violence. Who, in their right mind (no matter how inebriated) could enjoy a non consensual act with another person? Disgusting.
I have "partied" with women and when we felt amorous, had sex (or made love), if my partner showed signs of not being competent, it is time to stop and cover her up...make her comfortable to sleep. Not take advantage, how enjoyable could that be? It is sick.
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:40 PM
emmadoggy (2,106 posts)
30. It is heinous what this woman and so many others
have had to endure.
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:46 AM
Egalitarian Thug (12,448 posts)
34. K&R Hard to believe that there are so many people that would be glad to see us (you) go back. n/t
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:10 AM
Suji to Seoul (2,035 posts)
35. Fucking hell, this shit pisses me off
It's always the victim's fault, right? Personal responsibility stops at overactive libido in insecure, worthless men? Isn't that right, Akin? I wonder if your rape was legitimate. . .ggrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!
GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!!! As for your ex-boyfriend, that loser. . .sorry, I am at a loss for words over this!
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:26 AM
KitSileya (3,514 posts)
42. Kudos to her!
I'm glad there are people who stand up against the shaming and denigration rape victims face, not to mention the victim-blaming that is so prevalent.
Rape is always about power in the sense that the rapist thinks he (or she) not only has the right of power over their victims, but also that the victims have no right not to consent. In that sense, rape is not about sex, for sex is something to which each participant, regardless of number, consents enthusiastically. Anything less than that, it is rape (so nagging, and whining, and cold-shouldering a partner into sex - where one partner thinks 'I'd better give in, otherwise things'll be awful/he won't talk to me for days/she'll whine and nag" - is non-consensual.)
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:08 AM
caseymoz (5,763 posts)
50. Tell me this isn't happening in 2012 USA!
In 1982, I thought this wouldn't be an issue in five years.
Is rape the fault of the woman due to the way she dressed? How much she drinks? No and no.
Mode of dress, and level of inebriation are not consent. Simple flirting is not consent, especially when combined with drinking.
There may be fantasies about sex in a stairwell, but that's the kind of act that unless she says specifically that's what she wants, with less than 3 drinks in her, don't do it, and especially don't insist on it. Never insist.
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:12 PM
nightscanner59 (802 posts)
58. In one's best detergent selling voice....
"Justified rape and sexism, racism and pure unchecked greed all brought to you by... the "Republican American Exceptionalism Card... Don't Leave Home without it!!!""
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:36 PM
beachgirl2365 (111 posts)
60. I love her courage!
Her story is so similar to my story.............Thank you for your courage!
Response to beachgirl2365 (Reply #60)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:37 PM
Odin2005 (53,521 posts)
61. !!!
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:43 PM
maddiemom (3,530 posts)
62. Jumping in after reading through all the replies:
I became a teenager in 1959, so am obviously a senior citizen now. I have a daughter in her mid-thirties. I've envied the women of her generation being able to live a more satisfactory single sexual existence than mine did. The "swinging sixties," during which I was a teenager and young adult were not swinging for middle American women until the latter end of the decade. Having come of age in those years, I was always well aware that many young men were hung up on wanting their "good" girlfriends, yet perversely lost respect when they "got what they wanted." This was not just your parents' caution to girls, their brothers were absorbing the same message.
Girls who truly acted as teases or "sluts" had many sad issues of their own. Many "good girls," however, had just as burgeoning sexual feelings as boys, which were bound to come out in 'heavy petting" situations with boyfriends to whom they were attracted . The whole thing was a total mess, which should have been solved with serious sex education and safe birth control. Emotional and religious issues still remain to this day, however. BUT, am I truly reading here that rape should be causing men to turn on the victims, for any of the stated reasons ( provocative clothing, etc.) in this day and age? We are truly spinning back to the fifties in this respect. Have the past near fifty years since I was a teenage girl been for nothing in sexual matters?
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:51 PM
heaven05 (15,103 posts)
63. heart
she's got heart. america's gender culture SUCKS!
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:10 PM
w0nderer (1,850 posts)
71. right click save
I spent years supposedly defebding against this
Response to Odin2005 (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:45 AM
andsh3burns (2 posts)
99. The Watering-down of the Phrase Sexual Assault
I know I'll get flamed for this, but please try to read with an open mind. I am a woman. I have been a victim of child abuse, domestic violence, and rape. I *know* what these experiences are, and what they do to a woman.
I don't know anything about the woman pictured above. I don't know anything about her specific experience. I don't know if she got violently raped or if she got drunk at spring break and had consensual public sex and suffered fallout as a result.
However, I want to address what I see as a harmful trend. There is a huge tendency to water-down the definition of sexual assault. There are initiatives and ad campaigns that try to convince every female that she has been sexually assaulted in some way. There is a tendency to call any sexual contact that a woman later doesn't feel great about assault.
We need to be clear on what we are teaching our children. Our culture is trying to indoctrinate that straight males are evil for feeling any type of attraction and that girls have to take no responsibility for their actions.
If a girl has sex, and later regrets it, it is NOT rape.
If a guy and a girl get drunk TOGETHER, and both feel desire at the time and make a bad decision to have sex, it is NOT rape.
If a girl feels used because she didn't say no, though she gave no indication that she didn't want to have sex, it is NOT rape.
If a guy dumps a girl right after sex and her feelings are hurt, it is NOT rape.
If a girl has sex, and everyone finds out and calls her a slut so she feels ashamed, it is NOT rape.
Being a jerk and being a rapist are not the same thing.
There are real cases where women suffer ACTUAL assault or rape. No, it doesn't always involve violence, but it does involve more than just regret. It requires either force or an actual imbalance of power (as in a child and an adult, a boss who coerces a subordinate-not when the subordinate seduces the boss, which does happen, a teacher with a student-cases like THAT).
It is not helping ACTUAL assault and rape victims to keep pushing the idea that any sex the girl at any point regrets is rape. It is insulting them and making a joke out of the horror ACTUAL victims suffer.
Most people at some point in their lives make stupid decisions they regret or experience unintended consequences of stupid decisions. This trend to say a woman who makes a stupid decision bears no responsibility for it is just insulting to everyone. Do you think males never regret drunk sex? The same people who want to call sex rape if the girl is drunk (even if the guy is also drunk) scoff at the idea that it therefore should also be rape if the guy is drunk but the girl is stone sober. They make empty arguments about imbalance of power, blah, blah, blah. I call BS. If a guy is falling down drunk and the girl is sober, SHE is the one with more decision-making power and with the ability to walk out. If a guy is drunk and USES FORCE on a girl who says no, then, and only then, is rape.
No, short skirts, being drunk, walking alone, etc are not reasons for rape. But, a girl's bad decision is not rape.
We cannot become a society that teaches our children that girls don't ever have to take responsibility for their own bad decisions, that boys who feel desire are all rapists.
Girls who cry "Rape" when what they mean is "Regret", and those who encourage this mentality, are doing just as much harm to actual rape victims as the rapists themselves.
Response to andsh3burns (Reply #99)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:32 AM
Lucy Goosey (2,940 posts)
100. Did you join DU just to post this misogynistic crap?
Why bother?
Response to Lucy Goosey (Reply #100)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:13 AM
andsh3burns (2 posts)
101. Get a New Dictionary...this whole post is Misandric.
The definition of misogynistic is not "honesty". The definition of misogynistic is not "calling delusional people on their BS".
I did in fact join just to bring some honesty to this post. Everyone is just enjoying the smell of all the hot air being wafted about on here.
I am for making things better for ACTUAL victims. It is just re-raping ACTUAL victims to tell them that what happened to them is the equivalent of making stupid decisions then shifting blame.
It is not misogynistic to want ACTUAL equality between the sexes. Everyone should be responsible for their own behavior. If FORCE is not involved, it is NOT rape or sexual assault. That includes if you get drunk and make unwise choices.
What you say by saying girls don't have to be responsible for their own mistakes, even when the consequences are hurtful or negative, is that girls are NOT equal to men. YOU are saying they are lesser, therefore need to be held to lesser standards of personal responsibility.
I don't hate women. But I do hate what is happening to our society. Men and women are EQUAL, therefore they should be held to EQUAL standards of behavior. People make stupid decisions when drunk....but, by your logic, if a girl is drunk and chooses to drive drunk and crashes and gets hurt...well, she didn't give her consent to drive b/c she wasn't capable of making such a decision and therefore holds no responsibility for that decision. Therefore anyone she crashes into or who is in the car with her and is thrown through her windshield should be charged with assault and damage to her property since they were on the road or in the car when she made the drunk decision to drive (since, as you insist, is not legally capable of making decisions).
Choosing sex partners unwisely is no different. If that girl would be held responsible and not pitied and excused if she made the decision to drive drunk (even if she were terribly injured), and since any person she interacted with would not be charged for her drunk decision to drive, then any sex partner she chooses while drunk is also not responsible for her actions.
If she is unconscious or says no-it is rape. If she is drunk and says yes, it is not rape.
Simple logic tells a person who sees men and women as equals that this is true. However, our society has become sadly misandrist with the ridiculous idea that men should be held to a different standard than women and that a woman's hurt feelings and embarrassment are the same as a violent crime.


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The first B3 of the day, which runs from Organ Hall Road to Well End, has been moved from 7.15am to 6.50am.
The second bus of the day is at 7.25am – too late for some users to get into work.
Caroline Pitrakou, of Milan Court, Borehamwood, works in London Bridge and used to catch the 7.15am bus from Studio Way to Elstree & Borehamwood station to take an early morning service into London.
The project manager said: "It causes me so much personal stress in the mornings as I no longer get to the station in time my train, making me 45 minutes late for work.
"My journeys have been a nightmare as the only trains I can catch are all rammed with rush-hour passengers. The 6.50am bus is far too early for me.
"Walking to the station with my laptop bag in the morning will be exhausting and daily taxis are expensive. This is a drastic change."
The mother-of-two is also angry over the cancellation of the last bus of the day, at 6.40pm, as she now has to rely on a lift from the station after work.
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Councillor Richard Butler is supporting the residents in their plight. He said: "It is ridiculous they are taking away a service as people are trying to get to work, I cannot understand cutting it and I will help them fight their case."
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wikiHow to Prepare Beetroot Rice
Two Methods:Using a pressure cookerUsing a panCommunity Q&A
Beetroot will turn rice a beautiful shade of pinkish red. It also happens to taste fantastic, and is a great rice to include for a dinner party or a meal of varied dishes. The following recipe can be made using either an Indian style pressure cooker or a basic high-sided pan.
- 1 cup rice
- 1 medium sized beetroot
- 2 finely chopped onions
- 1/4 teaspoon mustard (kadugu in Tamil)
- 1/2 teaspoon split black gram (ulutham parupu in Tamil)
- 1/2 teaspoon split Bengal gram (kadalai parupu in Tamil)
- 2 red chillies
- 2 teaspoons oil
- Salt, as per taste
Using a pressure cooker
1Heat the cooker on the stove. Pour oil and wait till it gets heated. Add the mustard seeds, black gram, Bengal gram and red chillies.
2After it spurts, add the onion. Roast till it turns a brownish color.
3Add the grated beetroot, then roast it. Roast and roast till the raw smell of the beetroot goes away and it turns slightly to a brown color.
4Add washed and cleaned rice. Pour 2 cups of water in. Add salt and curry leaves.
5Close the cooker with the lid and weight it. Cook. Turn off the cooker after 1 to 2 whistles.
6Serve. You can add washed and cleaned coriander leaves for garnishing.
Using a pan
1Cook the rice with 2 cups of water. Keep it aside.
2Heat a pan and pour oil into it. After the oil is heated up, add mustard seeds, split black gram, split Bengal gram and red chillies.
3After it spurts, add chopped onion and saute it. Once it turns brownish, add the grated beetroot and the curry leaves.
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Buying HPWC with or without car?
Buying HPWC with or without car?
You are supposed to get a 6-50 adapter with the car if you have an HPWC on backorder (in addition to the standard 14-50 adapter; this is so you don't have to run a neutral line which the HPWC won't use). I eventually did get one, but it didn't come with my car and took weeks of asking about it. I went ahead and ran the neutral (along with 2 hots + ground) that the 14-50 plug needed since I couldn't get confirmation that the 6-50 adapter would come with the car, and it is a good thing I did, even though it cost me an extra $100 or so in wire. That adapter is $45 on its own, though I'm not sure how likely you are to find matching plugs.
I have no idea if those ordered with cars are shipped first, though I would hope so since they have been waiting the longest.
Also, if you are NOT getting the second onboard charger, there is no point in gettting the HPWC.
(and this has nothing to do with supercharger option, lest someone ask)
Presumably you are also getting twin chargers, or else the HPWC is useless.
@italianospeed - correct, the sole reason for giving you the 6-50 adapter was so you could run the wire for the HPWC (2 conductors plus ground), hook up a 6-50 outlet temporarily, and then replace it with the HPWC when it arrived without having wasted wire.
You have to be logged in to order from the store, so I am sure they can match you up with that, but I don't see how it matters.
The cost you can see is the same (though you can't finance it on the car loan if you buy it separately, if you care about that). The question of order priority can only be answered by Tesla, but good luck getting that -- I couldn't get any details on when my HPWC would arrive until they told me on Friday it would be arriving on Saturday (I gave up asking, as since January I have been told about two weeks every time I asked).
@italianospeed - no, you would have to buy the 6-50 adapter separately. If there is a Tesla store near you, maybe you could pick it up from them and save shipping.
I bought the car delivered to GA, so I did not pay CA sales tax through Tesla and had to pay the GA sales tax myself to register the car. I don't know about outside the US, but here there is a flat $990 destination charge regardless of where you pick up the car.
@italianospeed: i received my HPWC in the mail a few weeks ago (got the car in december). but i can't use it at my condo. i was going to keep it just in case i move in the future. i'll sell it if you're interested.
@italianospeed - no, I paid shipping ($30, IIRC) when I bought the car.
Would you be willing to share why you chose not to install the HPWC in your condo? I'm going through a condo install in MA myself and am curious to see if you're having some of the same problems that I am.
long story short...it just wasn't worth the hassle. i have a townhouse with a detached garage. the garage lighting and outlet are wired through the community electricity. the location of the garage puts it at least 500 ft from any metered source. i was hoping to dig a drench from my meter and install the HPWC. i had solar city come out a few times to scope out the project and none of the options were any good. particularly in the setting of a condo board that has to approve every action. in fact, my neighbor kindly switched garages with me so that i was able to charge on the 110 volt outlet. (his garage was next to the meter. my garage was so far away that it wasn't strong enough to charge). i might have gone through all the construction if it were my house alone but having to deal with the condo board on top of everything else just wasn't worth it. so i plug it in overnight at home and get about 40 miles of charge. i have a rental property near my work that i installed a 50 amp outlet. i plug it in there once every week or so to get a full charge when i'm low. not ideal but it'll do for now. no complaints though cause, as you know, this car is good for a lot of smiles. having similar issues with your install?
Indeed. The board initially wanted me to rewire the garage two phase (turns out it was never wired properly when built over 20 years ago) on my dime to the tune of 8K. Then add an additional sub-panel, transformer, separate meter and HPWC and I was looking at a 13-15K installation. I found a way to use the existing setup but will be limited to 60 amps. Not really exploiting the full benefit of my twin chargers but should be good enough if my charging solution at work craps out. I'm told the board got burned by another unit owner at some point who tapped into the common area electricity after making a "donation" to our in-house maintenance guy/ electrician. As such, they're not exactly EV friendly. Had to get the condo lawyer to draw up a licensing agreement that essentially gives me no rights. Only took me a year to get to this point. Did I mention I'll be running for a board position in June?
If you have the means an HPWC is nice to install if you are sharing on plug share etc. It will certainly speed road trips for those passing through.
@Robert22 - how are you charging at 60A without the HPWC -- do you have a J1772 EVSE capable of 60A?
Sun Country Highway makes a j1772 with a 90 amp max rate
I meant to say that I'll be limited to a 60 amp breaker, and that will be WITH the HPWC, so I'll be getting my 80% of 60 amps ( I think that's correct but most of my electrician training came out of a high school physics class). Some will say "What's the point?" since I'm not getting much more juice than I would with a 14-50, but I like the convenience of not needing to go in and out of the trunk for the UMC which would probably end up on the ground subject to trauma from garage maintenance equipment, other cars, inquisitive owners, etc. This will be boom, boom, done. There is also the possibility that if elected as a trustee on the progressive ticket I will be able to relocate to an alternate location where I can get my 90 amps. Lastly, the slow low amperage scheduled overnight charge ending right before I'm ready to leave in the morning makes more sense to me than a 90 amp blast, both for battery longevity and to defeat vampire drain. Suggestions and/or comments on this approach welcomed.
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In the 2005 interview in "Aberrant Dreams," Al Reynolds, the popular Welsh author of new space opera, when compared to A. E. van Vogt, answered that:
"There was not a huge amount of science fiction books accessible to me when I was a kid. One of the books I did have was a collection of van Vogt's short stories, which was called Destination Universe and I read that over and over again. That collection had "Far Centaurus," "A Can of Paint," "Dear Pen Pal" and "The Sound" which were very weird and strange to me when I read it, but I kept coming back to it because I found it so intoxicating."
And then went on:
"I have this book by Damon Knight, a collection of critical essays, and Knight really trashed van Vogt very publicly. He was really damning. Do you think his career ever really recovered from that?"
In the SF world, the impact of this article, "Cosmic Jerrybuilder" (I refer to this article as it appeared in the 1967 edition of In Search of Wonder) was largely widespread, as can be seen from the above quote. But the article itself, if read today, reads like a very bad fix-up between two articles on The World of Null-A and some others discussing van Vogt's works. I doubt that, standing by itself, an article so disjointed would have been published. But this can be my personal bias against Knight and so it is not relevant.
In "Cosmic Jerrybuilder," Knight states he will examine World of Null-A from four points of view — Plot, Characterization, Background, and Style.
Later in the article, he arrives at three statements which sum up his criticism of van Vogt's work in general:
- His plots do not bear examination.
- His choice of words and sentence-structure are fumbling and insensitive.
- He is unable to visualize a scene or to make a character seem real.
I'll try to refute first the four criticisms of World of Null-A, and then the three more general assessments.
The preliminary problem in examining this, is that the main body of the criticism is centered on the magazine version of World and Knight is forced to admit that much was left out from the book edition, which is a feeble excuse. However, let's examine the single points:
The plot of World "abounds in contradictions." The plot of World — I refer to the 1948 book edition — is accelerated by the means of a profound and large cutting and is clearly a dream plot, in which all changes abruptly. Knight fails to see this.
Characterization: the same. For Knight the characters do not act in a rational way. This is not a mystery novel in which all the pieces of the puzzle must combine themselves in a larger scheme. This novel is exactly the opposite: it depicts a shifting and menacing reality in which nothing is what it seems...
Background: here, Knight is plainly wrong. Van uses "General Semantics" as a background. When I read World for the first time in Italian in 1963, I happily knew nothing of Korzybski, and so admired Van for creating a real "future philosophy." This is the effect the book still exerts on me: a truly different culture. The technological gadgets are irrelevant.
Style: again nearly all the examples are from the magazine edition and moreover Knight seems unaware that van Vogt is trying to create a sort of chock for the reader. For example, the sentence "His brain was turning rapidly in an illusion of spinning" — which Knight ridicules — seems to me very apt and stimulating. It is true that the magazine version is careless in the writing, but the book version is not.
Perhaps at this point, it becomes useful to quote from Paul Di Filippo's review of the big anthology of Van's stories, "Transfinite." For Di Filippo, van Vogt was seen by Knight:
"... as a ham-handed prosodist, ignorant of 'real' science and given to fantastically abstruse plotting. Van Vogt's popularity was supposed to stem from some kind of occult aura around his work, as if van Vogt himself were one of the mind-clouding supermen he liked to write about, luring readers into his ambit with gaudy yet shabby illusions. Well, a sympathetic and close reading of the stories in this current volume will reveal that this portrayal is an unfortunate sham. Van Vogt knew precisely what he was doing in all areas of his fiction writing. There's hardly a wasted word in his stories: characters are delineated with sharp strokes, and actions conveyed economically and with meticulous precision, forming striking visual images in the reader's mind. His plots are marvels of interlocking pieces, often ending in real surprises and shocks, genuine paradigm shifts, which are among the hardest conceptions to depict."
I have some doubts on the "interlocking pieces," but I heartily subscribe to all the rest.
And now we come to the three final points enunciated by Knight against van Vogt:
Point 1 would be true if van Vogt were a mystery writer, such as Agatha Christie. Because he was clearly not, the point is void.
Di Filippo has shown better than me that point 2 is eminently debatable. Try this:
"The black, moonless, almost starless night yielded reluctantly before a grim reddish dawn that crept up from the left."
Or this:
"Across the miles and the years, vague patches of light gleamed coldly at him, whole galaxies of blazing stars shrunk by incredible distance to shining swirl of mist."
Or, again, this:
"He woke to the sound of a violin. It was a sad-sweet music that told of the rise and fall of a race long dead."
Or, finally, this:
"Indecision was dark on the man's thoughts as he walked across the spaceship control room to the cot where the woman lay, so taut and so still. He bent over her. He said with his deep voice: 'We are slowing down, Merle.'"
"Fumbling and insensitive"? I think not.
Point 3 can be refuted by referring again to "Black Destroyer," the first story published by Van in 1939:
"Mist of memory stopped that mad rush when it was still only electricity singing through his muscles. Memory that brought fear in an acid stream of weakness, pouring along his nerves..."
"A tremor of dismay shot through him. The dim red sun toward which he was heading was not growing larger. It was becoming smaller by the instant."
"His tentacles clutched at precious instruments and flung them insensately; his paws smashed in fury at the very walls of his ship."
"They found him lying dead in a little pool of phosphorus."
"It was history, honorable Mr. Smith, our knowledge of history that defeated him."
Then, what remains of the Knight's "thrashing"? I think the effect was bigger because, in a small field, this was one of the first attacks on a popular work. Of this article, very little remains. Only some pregnant and creative images, like this:
"Altogether, it is a strange world that van Vogt wanders in. A dark and murky world [...] and every hero packs a .32 caliber improbability in his hip pocket."
Nice phrasing, but no substance.
Before concluding, let's hear some other opinion on Van's work.
Al Reynolds again (same source):
"The thing about the van Vogt article is that Knight attacks The World of Null-A on a logical level and he finds lots of logical plot holes in it and things that just do not make any sense. It's clear, I think, that he is just missing whatever worked in that book for van Vogt's readers. I mean he's just not getting what van Vogt was doing right for so many people."
And now, Phil Dick (interviewed in Vortex, February 1974):
Q: What about Damon Knight's famous article criticizing van Vogt?
A: Damon feels it's bad artistry when you build these funky universes where people fall through the floor. It's like he's viewing a story the way a building inspector would when he's building your house. But really reality is a mess, and yet it's exciting. The basic thing is: how frightened are you of chaos? And how happy are you with order? Van Vogt influenced me so much because he made me appreciate a mysterious chaotic quality in the universe which is not to be feared.
I have read somewhere that Knight, much later, regretted in some way his article, saying he did not know van Vogt was trying to create a dream atmosphere in his work.
Not understanding the aims of an author is the mark of a bad critic. And Knight was one of them.


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Hi All,
Just wondering...do you limit how much water your dog(s) drink in the evening? We don't but I've read where people have their dogs stop drinking after say 8:00 p.m. -- What do you do?
Thanks everyone!
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Hi All,
Just wondering...do you limit how much water your dog(s) drink in the evening? We don't but I've read where people have their dogs stop drinking after say 8:00 p.m. -- What do you do?
Thanks everyone!
Tricia (Zoey & Ezzie)
Personally I never take water away from my dogs. Not even pups but thats me. I train, prevent & deal w/ accidents rather than worry about dehydration & unhealthiness.
May I ask if this is what you are doing or are planning on doing? & why?
But if that is what you want to do it would depend on the individual dogs breed & personality, the weather conditions & the dogs & persons schedule.
Soar high & free my sweet fur angels. I love you Nanook & Raustyk... forever & ever.
No, we don't do this. Our two dogs drink all they want. I've just seen some posts on other sites where people have said they stop giving their dogs water by a certain time in the evening. I was just a curious...
My dogs drink two of those pet water containers a day. Sometimes three or four when it's really hot out.
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I've read that dogs should have their water taken away at a certain time. I think that's a horrible thing to do. Kai doesn't have food sitting all day so he may go a bit hungry but the water is left so he can satisfy himself. Also, Kai is potty trained and gets taken out right before bed so too much water before bed isn't an issue. Also, dogs can last a while without food but water is essential. Lastly, Kai has ALOT of fur and especially since it's summer time now, he may feel the need for a drink during the night to keep him cool. All in all...i think it's a bad idea to take water away at any time.
Kai [Sheltie], Kaedyn [Sheltie], Keeva [Malinois], Kwik [Malinois]
We don't take her water away during the night, just in case she gets really thirsty in the night. And now with the hot summer weather coming on she can get dehydrated really easily.
Fur Mommy to Chloe, Clara, Dozer, and Max!
And mommy to my two little angels in heaven Scooter (1-07-04) and Dexter (1-13-04)
Mickey's water gets taken away by 9. We (well my parents) go to bed by midnight. If they see he needs some water (he'll walk over to the bowls or where they're supposed to be) and stay there. Then that means he wants water and then he'll get some. I know it might sound cruel but he adjusted to it well so it's all good. My mom told me about this lady she met the the vet who gave her dog one bowl of water a day. The dog "learned" how to have only a certain amount of water so that by the time its finished, he won't want anymore. Now that's just cruel.
I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running
from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you.
I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
- Jack Kerouac; On The Road
Nope, mine have fresh water all the time.
Simba and Nala ALWAYS have fresh water available. We let them out befor we go to bed, for no accidents at night.
~Kay, Athena, Ace, Kiara, Mufasa, & Alice!
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Set ablaze the billboards and their advertisements
Love with all your hearts and never forget
How good it feels to be alive
And strive for your desire"
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Mine always have fresh water, however at night they sleep in our room, and there's not a dish in there, so I suppose technically they're shut off then, but not until they are ready for bed.
Emily, Kito, Abbey, Riley, and Jada
I don't have my puppy yet, but being a giant breed (greater swiss mountain dog), susceptible to bloat...it is recommened that the water bowl be brought up after dinner time...too much gobbling down of food and then gulping down water can add to the bloat issue ( i am guessing a lot of air intake with drinking the water and an already full tummy)...we havent discussed this with our vet yet ( dont have our puppy yet), and havent asked the breeder what his thoughts are, but this is what i have read up on...i am thinking that it could be given back later in the evening, after the food is digested...but i am not sure...we shall see.
our dogs NEVER go without water
unless going in for surgery the next day and have been told by the vet not to give water after bed time.
if the water bowls happen to be empty penny (JRT X) will scratch the inside of the water bowl to ask for more
Rhi *Hooman* Clover *Rottie x ACD* (RIP to my BRD) Elvis and Tinny *The BCs* & Harri *JRT* Luna *BC x*
My dogs always have fresh water available. Rosie, the 10 yr. old Rottweiler always has her OWN bowl right next to her at all times, with fresh water, because it's very difficult for her to get around these days.
The other three have two bowls to drink out of.
If not, they wake us up in the middle of the night
Huney, Bon & Simba-missed so very much
Remembering all the Rainbow Bridge Pets
Fresh water is available at all times here.......
Even in the middle of the night. I guess that's not a good idea, but I've never had a problem. Nebo sleeps in a kennel in my room at night. I noticed in the mornings when I'd let him out the first thing he'd do is go to the water and drink like crazy. So I attached a water bottle to his crate. It gets pretty hot in my room sometimes, and he seems much happier with the water. He always goes potty first thing in the morning, and never goes in his crate.
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Tulsi Gabbard's victory wasn't the only upset in the Primary. State Rep. Jessica Wooley emerged victorious over Rep. Pono Chang, a longtime ally of House Speaker Calvin Say and consistent opponent of GMO labeling laws, the food sustainability bill and other green initiatives. The two squared off when reapportionment redrew district boundaries.
And Laura Thielen, who was director of the state Department of Land and Natural Resources under Gov. Linda Lingle, managed to unseat incumbent state Sen. Pohai Ryan, a Democratic stalwart. Thielen generated controversy when the Democratic Party of Hawaii attempted to prevent her from running, saying she hadn't been a Democrat in good standing for at least six months prior to announcing her candidacy. Thielen has promised to oppose bills that fast-track development, such as SB755 and SB2927, both of which failed, but are expected to resurface in 2013.
In other key legislative races, Sen. Brian Taniguchi triumphed in the District 11 race over Sen. Carol Fukunaga, who co-sponsored SB755.
But Sen. Clarence Nishihara, who supported SB755, handily won the District 17 seat, despite a challenge from Alex Sonson. Sen. Michelle Kidani, another advocate of SB755, successfully fought off her District 18 opponent, former House member Michael Magaoay. Kidani will face Republican Rojo Herrera in November. State Sen. Will Espero, meanwhile, easily won election in District 19. He voted for both fast-tracking bills in the last legislative session.
In State House races, Bertrand Kobayashi beat Brian Yamane in the 19th District, but will face Republican challenger Darrell Young. House Speaker Say, who represents the 20th District, easily won his race, but still faces Green candidate Keiko Bonk in the general.
Incumbent Scott Nishimoto, who voted against both fast-tracking bills, won in District 21, as did Della Au Belatti in District 24, Scott Saiki in District 26 and Republican Corrinne Wei Ching in District 27.
Veteran politician Romy Cachola took the District 30 race, and Mark Takai triumphed over Heather Giugni in the District 33 Democratic primary. He will be running against Republican Sam Kong.
In District 44, Democratic incumbent Jo Jordan will proceed to the general, as will Karen Awana in District 43. Both supported the fast-tracking bills.
In Neighbor Island races of note, former State Sen. Gary Hooser, who was named director of the Office of Environmental Quality Control by Gov. Abercrombie following a failed bid for Lieutenant Governor, took seventh in a field of nine candidates for Kauai County Council.


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Up To 50% Off Liberty London Range @ Mamas & Papas
Have you seen the new Liberty London range at Mamas and Papas yet? I am in love with it all, there are such gorgeous prints available. Plus they currently have up to 50% off, it's the perfect time to head over and take a look!
There are so many lovely items to show you, I don't know where to start! Here are a few of my favourites:
- Special Edition Liberty Armadillo Pushchair* (was £299) Now £199
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- Liberty Emilia's Flower Blouse and Leggings Set* (was £34) Now £23.80
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- Liberty Knitted Blanket* (was £39) Now £19
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This offer is for a limited time only so grab them while you can!
Standard home delivery is £4.95 and becomes FREE on orders over £50. You can also Click and Collect your order for FREE from your local Mamas and Papas store.
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President Obama's State of the Union address outlined an agenda that included minimum wage increase, increase spending on infrastructure, climate change, and passing tougher gun-control laws.
In the President's second-term address, he again called for reducing the country's deficit by tax increases and spending cuts. He also talked about reducing troop levels in Afghanistan by half over the next year.
The speech focused more on the economy where Obama aims to help low-income Americans through these times. He proposed to provide "high quality" preschool to low to moderate-income 4-year-olds and to raise the federal minimum wage to $9 per hour, which is at $7.25 today.
"It is our unfinished task to make sure that this government works on behalf of the many, and not just the few; that it encourages free enterprise, rewards individual initiative, and opens the doors of opportunity to every child across this great nation," Obama said.
Knowing his struggle to pass legislation in the last four years, Obama pledged to use his executive powers when necessary and maximize his leverage by going directly to voters.
Some say that Obama's delivery of his speech wasn't as profound as the agendas he laid out. But in the end, Obama's speech focused more on liberal agendas that will surely elicit conservative opinions.


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South Park - Preview @ CraveOnline
CraveOnline has posted a new preview of South Park: The Stick of Truth based off a demo from the NYCC 2013.
Our first stop at New York Comic Con 2013 could not have been more fitting. Ubisoft's massive booth stared convention-goers dead in the face as you hit the show floor. Lines gathered quickly around the two main attractions, including the smaller structure where we had the chance to check out a ten minute gameplay video of Obsidian Entertainment's upcoming RPG South Park: The Stick of Truth.
For those of us who endured the 1998 N64 game based on the show, this is a welcome relief. Writers and creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker aren't just looking to make a quick buck this time around. They are fully committed to producing a quality game that not only embraces their off color brand of comedy, but also celebrates (and pokes fun at) the long history of role playing games.
Our preview ran through an early section of the game where the player, as "the new kid," sets out on a mission with a few of the main characters from the show. The boys wind up face to face with a series of RPG tropes including a bard, the tavern at the inn and a handful of elven archers. This would normally seem all too typical if it weren't wrapped in the South Park art style and sense of humor.
Information aboutSP: The Stick of Truth
SP/MP: Single-player
Setting: Modern
Genre: RPG
Platform: PC
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Under settlement, NFL will advise teams not to talk about offers to draft picks
Published November 11, 2002
The NFL has agreed to advise team officials not to talk to other teams about offers they make to NFL draft picks, as part of a settlement with the NFL Players Association in which the union agreed to drop its collusion case.
The NFLPA began an investigation in August into whether officials of the Minnesota Vikings and Kansas City Chiefs colluded in negotiating the contracts of the Chiefs' top pick, No. 6 overall draft choice Ryan Sims, and the Vikings' top pick, overall No. 7 Bryant McKinnie.
The agreement by the NFL to advise teams not to talk about offers "is a very good result and it saves us from the costs and uncertainties of litigation," Berthlesen said.
Greg Aiello, NFL spokesman, said the NFL and the teams did not admit any wrongdoing as part of the agreement.
"We have agreed to advise our clubs that even though we don't believe there is any violation of the CBA being committed by clubs discussing offers, the union has made it clear they will bring collusion charges [if that occurs]," Aiello said.
"We are not establishing a league rule that says the clubs can't talk. We are telling clubs the union views this as a problem and they will bring these collusion cases ... and make life difficult for you."
Concurrent with the settlement of the collusion case, McKinnie signed a reported five-year, $13.55 million contract, $9.35 million of it guaranteed, with the Vikings. Sims, whose season ended when he broke his elbow in a game last month, signed a seven-year deal with the Chiefs in late August that will pay him a reported $16.8 million to $25 million, based on incentives, and included a $9.75 million signing bonus.
THOMAS SELLS TO CSMG: Veteran basketball agent Henry Thomas has sold his company, Thomas Sports Management, to sports management firm CSMG Inc. and will lead a new basketball division there as part of the deal.
Thomas, who has been an agent since 1989 and represented retired NBA star Tim Hardaway, brings with him 12 basketball clients, including Michael Finley of the Dallas Mavericks and Marcus Fizer of the Chicago Bulls. His other 10 clients are playing in the National Basketball Development League or overseas.
Thomas declined to reveal the purchase price he received. CSMG is, and Thomas Sports Management was, based in the Chicago area.
Thomas said he considered merging his company into a larger sports agency for two or three years before striking a deal with CSMG. "The way this industry is going, I think the way to effectively compete for top prospects, I need more resources behind me," he said.
CSMG, led by Chairman Alan Nero, represents about 200 athletes worldwide, including baseball, football and basketball players and professional golfers.
NBPA APPEALS ARBITRATOR'S DECISION: National Basketball Players Association officials have appealed the decision of an arbitrator who ruled that an NBA policy to withhold luxury tax and player escrow funds from teams with big payrolls does not violate the collective-bargaining agreement.
The decision of arbitrator Charles Renfrew has been appealed to a three-member arbitrator panel, said Jeffrey Kessler, outside counsel to the NBPA and a partner at Weil, Gotshal & Manges.
The panel of arbitrators has not yet been selected by the NBA and the NBPA, Kessler said. A decision will likely take at least a few months.
NBPA Executive Director Billy Hunter has called the league policy to withhold tax and escrow funds from high-spending teams a double tax that violates the spirit and intent of the collective-bargaining agreement. Renfrew agreed with the NBA's argument that the policy should stand because the players union did not restrict in the collective-bargaining agreement how the league could distribute the money.
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On a 1 3/8 inches wide bronze hexagon, one point up, an American bald eagle with wings displayed horizontally, grasping three crossed arrows and bearing on its breast a shield paly of thirteen pieces and a chief. On the reverse, a name panel between the words �FOR MILITARY� and �MERIT�, all above a sprig of laurel.
The ribbon is 1 3/8 inches wide and consists of the following stripes: 3/32 inch White 67101; 25/64 inch Myrtle Green 67190; 1/32 inch White; 1/16 inch Myrtle Green; 1/32 inch White; 1/16 inch Myrtle Green; center 1/32 inch White; 1/16 inch Myrtle Green; 1/32 inch White; 1/16 inch Myrtle Green; 1/32 inch White; 25/64 inch Myrtle Green; and 3/32 inch White.
See Army Regulation 600-8-22, Military Awards.
The following are authorized components of the Army Commendation Medal:
a. Decoration (regular size): MIL-D-3943/27. NSN 8455-00-269-5750 for the decoration set. NSN 8455-00-246-3820 for individual replacement medal.
b. Decoration (miniature size): MIL-D-3943/27. NSN 8455-00-996-5003.
c. Ribbon: MIL-R-11589/37. NSN 8455-00-257-3898.
d. Lapel Button: MIL-L-11484/20. NSN 8455-00-269-5423.
a. In a summary sheet, 5 November 1945, WDGAP, Personnel Division recommended that an Army Commendation Ribbon of distinctive design be established to recognize meritorious service in an area at a time for which the Bronze Star Medal may not be awarded. The recommendation was approved by the Secretary of War and the ribbon was established by War Department Circular 377, dated 18 December 1945. This circular authorized award to �members of the Armed Forces of the United States serving in any capacity with the Army for meritorious service rendered since 7 December 1941, not in sustained operational activities against an enemy nor in direct support of such operation, i.e., in areas and at times when the Bronze Star Medal may not be awarded because of its operational character�. Authority to award the Commendation Ribbon was delegated to Major Generals or commanders of any command, force or installation normally commanded by Major Generals.
b. In a DF, 29 April 1948, from the D/PA to the Quartermaster General, the Personnel & Admin. Division indicated that the Secretary of the Army and the Secretary of the Air Force had authorized a medal pendant to be established for the Commendation Ribbon and requested that a proposed design be prepared. The design was approved by both Secretaries on 8 July 1948. The Medal Pendant for Commendation Ribbon was announced in Department of the Army (DA) Circular 91 (AF Letter 35-25) dated 20 July 1949. On 20 March 1950, the Secretary of the Navy approved the Navy Commendation Ribbon, and authorized use of the same pendant with a different ribbon on 6 April 1950.
c. DA General Order No. 10, dated 31 March 1960, renamed the Commendation Ribbon with Medal Pendant to the Army Commendation Medal. President Kennedy, in a memorandum to the Secretary of Defense, dated 1 June 1962, authorized the award of the Army Commendation Medal to members of the Armed Forces of friendly foreign nations who, after 1 June 1962, distinguished themselves by an act of heroic, extraordinary achievement, or meritorious service.
d. Order of precedence and wear of decorations is contained in Army Regulation (AR) 670-1. Policy for awards, approving authority, supply, and issue of decorations is contained in AR 600-8-22.
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According to research, customers have between 10-15 loyalty cards or programs that they're participating in. This signifies that they are happy to participate in discount and incentive programs but not happy to commit to brand loyalty. So how can brands encourage and incentivize and promote customer loyalty? The answer lies in a careful mix of […]Read more