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My husband and I vacationed last month in Quebec City and Montreal. The trip was a mix of leaf peeping outside of the two cities and sightseeing in the cities. We were there during the first week of October and caught the peak of the fall foliage viewing period. We enjoyed days of complete sunshine and warmer than normal temperatures on the days we saw the foliage, so it was beautiful to walk around and take photos. On our last couple of days when we were in Montreal, we had rain, though. I was glad we were lucky to have the sunshine on our leaf peeping days.
We flew into YUL on Air Canada. That was the first time we flew on AC and we were very pleased with them. The plane was clean, the staff was nice, and we were each entitled to one free checked suitcase. Our hotel that evening was at the Montreal Airport Marriott (see review in the Montreal hotels section later in my trip report).
The next morning we drove through the Eastern Townships and Mont Orford, on our way to Quebec City. We spent 3 nights in QC and made partial day trips to Jacques-Cartier National Park and Cap Tourmente. Then we drove back to Montreal and stayed there for a couple of more days before returning home. We had tentatively planned to go to La Mauricie National Park on the drive back to Montreal, but we felt the day would've been too long (based on the long day we already had driving through the Eastern Townships on the way to QC). Plus, we saw enough foliage already and there was rain in the forecast, so we skipped it.
Fall foliage areas:
These websites are good resources for tracking the foliage once the season starts:
Eastern Townships
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I also kept an eye on the foliage reports in New England:
Mont Orford
National Park website:
Ski center website:
There was a fall foliage festival going on when we got to the ski center. The parking lots were packed but we managed to find a spot quickly. There was music, a small autumn crafts bazaar, and tickets could be purchased for the gondola ride to the top of the mountain. If you didn't want to ride the gondola, there were walking/hiking trails of
various difficulties. We took the easy trail and walked about half way up. The colors were so breathtaking and it seemed like I stopped every few feet just to take pictures of everything around me (and maybe to catch my breath from climbing uphill ). On the way down, the views were just as spectacular seeing the foliage from a distance as far as the eye can see. It was as if the hillsides were on fire because they
were glowing bright orange and red. We were so lucky to be there on a sunny day!
Parc national de la Jacques-Cartier
The foliage on the drive from QC to Jacques-Cartier was already wonderful so I knew when we got inside the park, it would be even better. The foliage once again was at its peak and we were wowed with every turn of our heads. We took a couple of short hikes and saw some green (from what I'm guessing are pine trees) mixed in with the
yellows/oranges/reds from the maple trees, which was also very pretty. Along one of the trails we came across a squirrel that was busy nibbling on something. We were able to get about 3 feet away from it to take some close-up pictures and it didn't care. It was too busy eating and didn't run away from us.
The park is an easy drive from QC and we highly recommend it.
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Fall foliage trip report: In and around Quebec City and Montreal
My husband and I vacationed last month in Quebec City and Montreal. The trip was a mix of leaf peeping outside of the two cities and sightseeing in the cities. We were there during the first week of October and caught the peak of the fall foliage viewing period. We enjoyed days of complete sunshine and warmer than normal temperatures on the days we saw the foliage, so it was beautiful to walk around and take photos. On our last couple of days when we were in Montreal, we had rain, though. I was glad we were lucky to have the sunshine on our leaf peeping days.
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Glad you had a good time. I did a trip to Charlevoix with stops at Jacques-Cartier park and Cape Tourmente reserve. The first 45 photos are from that trip: http://www.borealphoto.com/keyword/automne
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Great photos, Erick_L! When I was researching for this trip, I was inspired by your photo of the Cherry Pond in Mont Orford and many of your previous posts.
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Continuing on with my report ...
Cap Tourmente National Wildlife Area
Although the focus of Cap Tourmente was to see the snow geese, I must say that the foliage surrounding the area was VERY nice. We sat on a bench for a while just enjoying the beauty. We even spotted a waterfall on a hillside in the distance. Since it was a gorgeous, sunny day again, it would've been a tranquil spot to stay for a while, but the snow geese were calling ... loudly. You could hear them from quite a distance. The ranger at the Reserve's entrance informed us that there were 30,000 geese that day. The following week they were expecting the peak at 80,000. We walked to the observation deck and were delighted to see the birds. They were everywhere and it was amazing to see that many of them gathered together. Even though there were only 30,000 of them, it was fun to just sit there and observe them for a while. We brought our own binoculars but the viewpoint also has telescopes provided. I think there are binoculars for rent at the Interpretation Center, as well.
Hotel Manoir Victoria
Our hotel in QC was located inside the old walled city in the Upper Town. When you enter the hotel, a staircase is directly in front of you and you look up to see that the lobby is on the second floor. Unfortunately there's no elevator, so you have to carry your suitcases up or the staff will run over to help you. It wasn't the greatest first impression but since the building itself is quite old, it's not that surprising that there's no elevator. There are elevators to the rooms, though.
Our room was a bit on the small side and was dated, but it was clean. Service was very, very good. The staff was friendly and the employee who handled us when we checked in remembered our names – each time he saw us he greeted us by name. I was originally looking at booking a room at Hotel 71 which is in Lower Town, but I waited too long to make a reservation and the rooms got sold out. We're actually glad we stayed at the Hotel Manoir Victoria instead because we thought the location was more convenient to be in Upper Town than Lower Town. We liked walking around to shop and eat (lunch and snacks) in Upper Town better.
Sights and Shopping
We walked around both Upper and Lower Towns and saw the major tourist attractions such as the Chateau Frontenac and La Citadelle in Upper Town, and Quartier Petit Champlain in Lower Town. We didn't take the tour of the Citadel but we were able to go to the waiting area where the tours start and got a glimpse of the inside.
We walked around the perimeter of the city walls and stopped at a viewpoint overlooking the St. Lawrence River. The foliage across the river looking towards Levis and Ile d'Orleans was very pretty. Everything in QC was picturesque.
We didn't use the funicular to get from Lower to Upper Town (not even after our huge dinners on those chilly nights). The climb was not painful but it wasn't a breeze either. By the way, the Ecolobus stopped right in front of our hotel, so that's an option as well, for anyone who doesn't want to walk up/down hill between there and Lower Town.
I wasn't impressed with any of the shops in the Petit Champlain Quarter, but it was nice just to walk around the cobblestone streets there and throughout the city in general.
We did end up buying some souvenirs, though. One shop in particular that I liked in Upper Town was called La Boutique de Noel de Quebec. It's a Christmas shop that sells a wide variety of ornaments and other holiday items. I purchased a cute ornament that's an autumn leaf that had been preserved and had "Quebec" written on it. It made the perfect momento for our leaf peeping on this trip. The store was also decorated nicely on the outside. At night, many people walking by would stop to take pictures of its façade.
We came across another Christmas store close by but their prices were higher.
Note: my trip reports are generally heavy on the food and shopping experiences since those are my big interests.
This was the best dining experience during this trip. The restaurant is located inside the Auberge Saint-Antoine hotel and even though it's an upscale place, it still had such a warm and cozy atmosphere with its wooden beams and stone walls. There are only a handful of tables in the whole restaurant and in the middle of the room, there's a lovely fireplace. From the moment we walked in, it felt very intimate. We checked our coats at the door and after we were seated, the sommelier came by with the wine menu. We took some time to look through the dinner menu and he returned to make his recommendations based on what food we would be ordering. A bit after we placed our order with the waiter, we were served a complementary shrimp and lobster amuse bouche which was delicious. Our appetizers of foie gras (hubby) and cream of sweet potato, bell pepper, and chorizo soup (me) were also fabulous. For the main course, we had the duck confit for two. Desserts were creme brulee and a chocolate tarte. Again, everything was delicious. It seemed like things tasted better with each course.
The only thing that was not so perfect was that the sommelier was a little slow to "refill" us during dinner. A couple of times my husband's glass was just about empty and it took a while before he came by to ask if my husband wanted another glass.
Overall, we really, really liked the food, the service was generally good, and the ambience was wonderful. We would definitely recommend Panache and would return there the next time we would be in QC.
Note: reservations are a must. We made ours four weeks in advance and there were only a few time slots remaining. Remember, they don't have that many tables, and once you're seated, you'll probably be there most of the night. We were dining there for several hours.
Le Cafe du Monde
I read mixed reviews about this restaurant, but it was our second favorite meal of the trip after Panache. The food quality was very good, but the atmosphere is completely different from Panache, so it would not be fair to compare them. Le Cafe du Monde is much more casual and louder. They're going for the French bistro feel. Like I said, the food was pretty good. A few noteworthy dishes were the cream of cauliflower soup (I think it was a special of the day), salmon carpaccio, and for dessert, the chocolate pot de creme was absolutely to die for!! It was so rich and creamy. I asked the waitress what brand of chocolate they used in it, but she didn't know, only that it was Belgian. Service was excellent. Our waitress was very nice, friendly, knowledgeable, and prompt.
We would definitely eat there again and would recommend it if you're looking for a place that's not super fancy.
Casse-Crepe Breton
We ate here twice: once just for dessert after dinner, and once for lunch. They have both sweet and savory crepes with a lot of choices for fillings. You can build your own crepe when you order. Sweet crepe fillings include chocolate, maple syrup, or different fruits like bananas, strawberries, or apples. Savory fillings include ham, bacon, cheese, green peppers or a variety of other vegetables. The portions are big and it's a decent value. The place isn't very big so there's always a line that goes out the door and it moves slowly. It's fun to watch the crepes being made while you wait for a table, though.
Le Petit Chateau
We had lunch here and it wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either. It's located to the side of the Chateau Frontenac and has an outdoor terrace. The restaurant looked nice from the outside and but the food was just average. We both had sandwiches with a side salad and each of us had a dessert crepe. The crepes at Casse-Crepe Breton were better. We also drank some ice cider which was pretty good.
Resto-Bistro Saint-James
Nothing noteworthy about this place. It's the hotel's restaurant so the food was average. No complaints about the service. We only ate here the night we arrived in QC since it was late and we were too tired to go anywhere else. The dessert menu looked unappetizing which is why we went next door to Casse-Crepe Breton for dessert.
Up next, Montreal ...
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The drive back to Montreal from Quebec City was uneventful since we skipped going to La Mauricie, as I mentioned before. Our quick lunch/pit stop during our drive was at Tim Horton's. Their specialties are their donuts and coffee, but they also serve fresh, tasty sandwiches which are a great alternative to greasy American fast food chains. Although they have some U.S. locations, we had never eaten at one. They even served the food on real plates and we had silverware (not plastic utensils). We saw a lot of Subways on the road, too, but we wanted to try something Canadian. We definitely recommend this chain when you're on the go.
Montreal Airport Marriott
As I mentioned at the beginning of my trip report, we stayed here on the night we arrived. The hotel is brand new. It is connected directly to the airport terminal and we found that to be extremely convenient. Since we arrived late, the main reason for reserving a room at this hotel was the location. We didn't have to exit/go outside the building – we just walked right up to the lobby to check into our room and went up the elevator to a very nice and very clean room. We quickly freshened up and went back down to have dinner at the hotel's restaurant. We weren't expecting the food to be great, but it turned out to be quite tasty. In the restaurant, you could hear some noise from the planes taking off, but from our room, we didn't notice any noise. The beds were very comfortable. Also, the staff was nice, friendly, and helpful. Even though we were only there for one night, we were very pleased.
If you have an early or late flight and need to be at the airport without any hassles, we'd highly, highly recommend the Marriott. We wouldn't hesitate to stay here again if we're in the area.
Holiday Inn Select Montreal Centre-Ville
Our other hotel while in Montreal was selected also based on its location. We wanted to be close to Old Montreal and also have good access to the Metro so we could easily get to downtown and the Plateau. This hotel was perfect for its proximity to the Metro station. It was caddy corner from the Place-d'Armes station.
The weather was a bit rainy by the time we got back to Montreal, so it was great to just walk out of the hotel and cross the street to get to the Metro. The room was dated and a bit worn, but overall it seemed clean. The hallway always smelled like frying oil and Chinese food, though, because of their Chinese restaurant in the lobby. Obviously we weren't expecting a luxurious room, so we thought it was fine and a decent value.
We visited the normal tourist places like Mont Royal, the Notre-Dame Basilica, Saint Joseph's Oratory, and Old Montreal.
We took a short walk around the lake in Mont Royal park which was quite pretty. The trees were starting to show some fall colors. Since it was lightly raining, the viewpoints overlooking the city were not that great due to the clouds rolling in.
The basilica and oratory were impressive sights, but as for Old Montreal, we liked touring around Quebec City better. QC was just more quaint.
Montreal Botanical Garden
We spent a couple of hours at the Botanic Gardens. It wasn't the best day to go there since it was rainy and chilly but I wanted to see the Chinese lanterns display in the Chinese garden.
We spent a couple of hours in the greenhouses first and then made our way outside at dusk to the Chinese garden. Being inside the greenhouses kept us warm and dry from the rain and it was interesting to see the different plants from around the world. They were grouped together based on their native climates. We saw some strange but interesting species and a few very beautifully-colored plants, most of which were in the tropical climate greenhouse. One plant had leaves that looked like the outside of a watermelon and it was named appropriately the watermelon peperomia.
As it got darker, we walked outside to the Chinese garden and saw the lanterns nicely glowing. One of the pagodas in the middle of the garden was perched high so we walked up to it and went inside to get a good vantage point for some panoramic photos of the garden, along with the Olympic Tower in the background.
If it hadn't been raining, it would've been nice to be able to spend a bit more time at the Botanic Garden and see some of the other theme gardens, and overall it was a good place to visit.
We also did some window shopping in the Plateau but I didn't find anything special, except for one food store called La Vieille Europe.
They had a deli with specialty meats, cheeses, and other delicacies, as well as plenty of imported packaged products. In the back of the store they also had a giant coffee roaster so you could buy some beans and have them roasted on the spot.
I was happy to find some French brand of cookies that I've only seen at home around Christmastime. This store was selling them for only half the price of what I'd have to pay at home so I bought several boxes of it.
Just an observation regarding the Plateau: I'd read about it being the most French neighborhood in all of Montreal, but we heard plenty of English speakers from store/restaurant employees and passers-by.
We used the Metro to get around Montreal, so even though I didn't intentionally plan on shopping in the Underground City, we saw parts of it. I did a tiny bit of window shopping but didn't buy anything or notice any outstanding stores.
In downtown the big department stores like Holt Renfrew and Ogilvy were nice for clothes.
They pretty much carried the same designer labels that I could find at home in our shopping mall/department stores, but I did buy a nice sweater from Holt Renfrew (it was their own label).
Chocolaterie Suisse
I was ecstatic to stumble upon Chocolaterie Suisse. Their store window had a sign advertising their hot chocolate drink but I was curious to see if they sold chocolate so I decided to go in. To my delight, they sell chocolates by the piece as well as manufactured Swiss brand chocolate bars such as Cailler, Villars, and Felchlin. I bought a box of delicious chocolates and cleaned out their entire stock of Cailler chocolate bars. It's too bad I couldn't buy more Cailler. The owner said their next delivery was still a few days away ;(
They also carried other Swiss-made items in the store like cuckoo clocks and watches.
Suite 88
It was heavenly walking into Suite 88 Chocolatier because you could smell the scent of chocolate right when you open the door. It's not just a chocolate store, it's a lounge. There are comfy chairs and sofas that you can sink into and thoroughly enjoy your chocolates. They also sell waffles, hot chocolate, and gelato. I bought several boxes of chocolate for me and a few more boxes as gifts. When I opened my boxes later at home, I found out they insert a coupon for a free waffle or hot chocolate on your next visit. I was so disappointed I couldn't redeem my coupons. If I knew, I could've bought a few boxes one day, then gone back the next day for more and used my coupon then! Aside from the coupon thing, the chocolates tasted very, very good.
Fous Desserts
I only bought a few pieces of chocolates here. Most of their selection was dark chocolate but I'm a milk chocolate fan. The ones I bought were quite delicious, though. I think they were just as good as the ones from Suite 88, but Suite 88 was more expensive. If they had more milk chocolate pieces, I probably would've bought more from them than from Suite 88. I also bought a bag of shortbread cookies sprinkled with fleur de sel which were excellent.
More of Montreal to come ...
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We didn't understand what the buzz is all about regarding Schwartz's. We've seen raves about it on TV. We've read the gushing reviews. We've gotten recommendations from friends who have eaten there and loved it even though they normally don't like that type of meat. We went in there with that expectation – but neither of us was impressed. Not even remotely impressed. The smoked meat was average; maybe above average at best. In our book, it certainly is not worthy enough to be considered a landmark destination/must-do in Montreal.
Other than the food itself, service was fine. Our waiter was friendly and the food came out of the kitchen quickly. By the way, we were there at noon and were the third ones in line. I had been worried prior to that, thinking the line would be very long. It didn't take long at all to get a table and even when we left, the line wasn't long.
Overall, we would not go out of our way to go back to Schwartz's. Again, the sandwiches weren't bad, but they were not anything special.
Restaurant Toque
We were very disappointed with Toque. The restaurant's decor is modern and stylish so it looked very nice, but the service was not good. The food was good -- but not great. For the price we paid for our meal, it was not a good value. For what we paid, we expect the entire experience to be flawless but it was not.
For starters, the host who seated us was not friendly and our waitress took forever before she showed up at our table. Our amuse bouche (sweet corn foam with sea salt) and appetizers (pancetta with pears and parmesan) were good, but from there it went downhill.
For the main course, we ordered the rib eye steak for two, medium. Our steaks were brought to our table by some server who was different from our waitress. He put our plates down and ran away from our table so fast that I didn't have a chance to cut into my steak fast enough to let him know whether or not I was happy with how cooked it was. He should've waited for me to check, and otherwise, our waitress should've come by right away to check. My steak was still too red so I wanted it cooked a bit more, but it took forever for our waitress to come check on us.
Finally she showed up so she took my steak back into the kitchen to have it cooked longer, and I told my husband to keep eating his piece and not wait for me so his piece wouldn't get cold. As he took a few more bites into his steak, he kept cutting away giant chunks of fat. He noticed that more than half his portion was just fat. I told him to complain to the waitress since that steak was expensive and it would be ridiculous for us to pay that much for a piece of mostly fat. So when she returned with my steak, he showed her his steak and she agreed to bring him another piece. I finally started eating my steak and he waited. The waitress came back and said he needed to choose a different dish because the chef said it would take too long for him to cook another steak. She suggested their salmon dish since it was the fastest thing to cook and my husband agreed to it. Eventually my husband's fish was served to him, while I was done eating my steak by then.
When the chef (or whoever else in the kitchen) sliced the rib eye into the two portions, why didn't he notice all the fat on my husband's portion and give us a different one right away? Also, once the steaks were plated with all the side dishes and garnishings, someone in the kitchen should've noticed then, too – if not the chef, what about the person preparing the plates or the person bringing the plates to our table?
Overall, the entire experience was not pleasant. We ate our main courses at different times and the service we expect from a restaurant like this was not at all the level of a top-notch establishment. We would NOT go back to eat there again, nor would we recommend Toque to anyone.
Claude Postel
We ate pastries here and they were ok. I ordered something that had too much marzipan in the filling for my liking. I had a bite of my husband's pastry and I wasn't that crazy about it either.
Premiere Moisson
We snacked on some pastries here that were very good. I know this is a chain but I liked their pastries better than Claude Postel's. They also had a big selection of other foods like quiches, sandwiches, and breads.
We'd definitely want to eat there again for a simple, affordable lunch or snack.
Overall, we liked Quebec City more than Montreal, but we really enjoyed our vacation all-in-all. The foliage was unbelievable and we noticed that just about everyone we came in contact with was very friendly.
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Re your comment on the "average to above average" quality of Schwartz's smoked meat, could you tell us the places you have had smoked meat that you would classify as better than above average?
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I haven't had any that I could say were better than Schwartz's, but I have had a couple that were just about the same as Schwartz's and worse than Schwartz's. So when we went to Schwartz's, I expected a sandwich that was something so special that I'd be dreaming about returning to Montreal just to eat it again since no one else around could make it. That wasn't the case, as it was a meal that was forgettable.
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Thanks for taking the time to share this terrific trip report, with lots of great information for restaurant-lovers!
The Plateau and French. I wouldn't describe the Plateau as the most French-speaking neighbourhood of Montreal island. That title I'd more likely award to somewhere like Hochelaga-Maisonneuve or Pointe-aux Trembles (off-the-tourist-map places). The western fringes of the Plateau near Boulevard St. Laurent have always struck me as being more anglophone (a lot of McGill students socialize there, etc...). As you get further east, French becomes progressively more predominant in the Plateau. Living in the eastern part of the Plateau in the '90s, I turned when I would hear English; these days, even in the east of the Plateau, English is more common but not predominant.
Schwartz's. Thanks for this opinion. I agree that it's not a "must-do in Montreal" for most visitors and am amazed in some ways it's gotten this title given all the great restaurants in this city.
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Thanks for the explanation regarding the Plateau, Daniel. A local's point of view is always appreciated.
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text: Variety reports that the stage musical version of Alice Walker's lesbian-themed classic novel The Color Purple will open on Broadway in early 2005 after a regional trial run in the fall of 2004. Scott Sanders, founder of Purple's production company, Creative Battery (Elaine Stritch at Liberty), tells Variety, "We'll make any creative changes during and after the one [tryout], but we feel real good about the creative direction." The company has acquired rights to both Walker's novel and the film version directed by Steven Spielberg. "Alice wrote it in a way that doesn't lend itself to linear storytelling," says Sanders, "so we have watched the film several times and may very well borrow from Steven's instincts about how to stage the novel."

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MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) – It's the night the pumpkins are lit and the kids are dressed in costumes yelling "trick-or-treat!" But what do pumpkins have to do with Halloween? And why do kids trick-or-treat?
History of trick-or-treating
Most Halloween traditions don't follow a straight line from ancient times to today. Rather, they appear, disappear and reappear in a new form. Trick-or-treating is an example of that.
It didn't become common across the United States until the late 1940s. It has a connection to All Saints Day, which, in ancient times, poor children would beg for food and money during public celebrations of that day.
According to The History Channel, new immigrants from Ireland in the mid-1800s helped spread Halloween. Some of those new immigrants would go door-to-door in costumes asking for food or money, which became the tradition of trick-or-treating.
Why do we carve pumpkins on Halloween?
Carved pumpkins have long been a symbol of the end of the Harvest in the U.S., but again, Irish immigrants changed that.
Ireland is where the carved produce lantern started. The jack-o-lantern dates to an old Irish story about Stingy Jack. According to folklore, Jack made a deal with the Devil so the Devil wouldn't take his soul. When Jack died, he couldn't get into heaven. And the Devil wouldn't let him into hell. So when Jack asked how he was supposed to see where he was going, the Devil threw a burned ember at him that would burn eternally. Jack, a rather inventive man, put that ember in a hollowed-out turnip and used that as his lantern.
"The pumpkin is kind of an expression of those spirits," said Greg Froehle, a Minneapolis man who's been carving intricate pumpkins for more than 20 years.
"I don't try to make them scary or traditional. I try to make them magical," Froehle said.
Was poisoned candy or razor blades in candy a real problem?
Despite the widespread fear of Halloween poisonings, a criminology professor from the University of Delaware could never find hard evidence of this happening.
According to The Incidental Economist, Dr. Joel Best analyzed "major newspapers between 1958 and 1993 for stories about Halloween candy tampering. Best found nearly 100 stories that he followed up with phone calls to police and hospitals. Of those stories, Best found absolutely none that could be positively attributed to random Halloween violence. The majority were the result of pranks. The reported incidents usually involved the discovery of contaminated treats, but with no actual injury to the children. When these cases were followed up, even the contamination usually turned out to be a hoax – often one initiated by the children themselves."


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Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and neonconservative William Kristol (Credit: Reuters/Gage Skidmore)
Salon's got a doozey up. Gary Kamiya gets his rant on in his provocatively titled article 'The boys who cry "Holocaust"'. Mincing no words, he comes right out swinging characterizing Israel's influence on the US as maintaining a stranglehold over our Mideast policy and claiming the neocons are ignorant, Islamophobic, discredited ideologues (we knew that). And it just builds from there. Check it out and by all means read the entire link for a comprehensive round up of past and present neocon war-mongering 101. From Bolton to Kristol to Goldberg including Bibi himself, 'The boys who cry "Holocaust"' delivers, and here's just the tip of the iceberg:
Yet these incompetent militarists are still taken seriously. And the reason is simple: They purport to be supporters of Israel. In American politics, you can get away with even the most cracked war-mongering as long as you claim to be "pro-Israel." And the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card for anything having to do with Israel is the Holocaust.
To listen to the neocons and hawks, you'd think Hitler was about to send the tanks over the Polish border……….
The Holocaust mind-set has led Israel into self-destructive policies. And its promiscuous invocation has helped ensure that Israel maintains a stranglehold over America's Mideast policy. That stranglehold has always been harmful to America, but it is now actually dangerous.
Kamiya's on a roll. On US positioning if and when Israel attacks Iran:
In other words, it is quite likely that the most powerful nation in the world will simply stand impotently by while a tiny client state threatens to do something that it knows is not just antithetical to its interests, but possibly ruinous to them. The tail could be about to wag the dog right off a cliff.
Is it my imagination or is our way of thinking gradually permeating the mainstream?
(Hat tip MW commenter American)


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Archive for Thursday, April 2, 2009
Wildcats win one of two
April 2, 2009
After 77 and a half minutes, the referee had seen enough.
The score was a video game-like 11-1 and the Spring Hill Broncos were not going to muster a miracle comeback. So he stopped the game, citing the mercy rule.
The De Soto Wildcats trotted off the sloppy, rainy field with grins from ear to ear.
"We actually came out a bit flat," coach Darren Erpelding said. "But then once we got the first goal we settled down and played pretty well."
Nancy Marquez opened the scoring for De Soto before the match turned into the Carly Stanley and Danielle Price show.
Stanley, who starred in the back last year for the Wildcats, proved she is equally as special going forward as she scored seven goals in the contest. Danielle Price kicked in the three more.
"Carly and Danielle played together in the midfield during their freshmen and sophomore years before we moved Carly to sweeper last year," Erpelding said. "This year they are working really well with each other. Both are very competitive girls, and they find each other a lot. The chemistry was pretty instant."
The only goal the team conceded came on a Spring Hill corner kick. Erpelding joked he was actually pleased goalkeeper Jamie Zvirgdins wasn't able to stop the difficult shot.
"The ball went over the wall and kind of knuckled downward," Erpelding said. "(Zvirgdins) would have cracked her head trying to save it. I'm glad she didn't."
Despite the lopsided result that moved De Soto to 1-0 on the year, Erpelding said there were a few technical things the team needed to work on.
"We can move the ball better than we actually did," he said. "The team missed some settles and there were a few cases of the ball getting stuck to the players' feet."
In addition to the technical improvements, Erpelding said he had a few tactical changes in mind for the defense that he believes will help the team.
"I saw a couple things defensively that we can get fixed," he said. "It's nothing too big, they should be quick fixes in the back."
De Soto played Gardner Tuesday night at home and lost, 4-1. Gardner scored a goal in the first minute of the game and kicked in another in the 37th minute of the opening half. De Soto cut the lead to one five minutes into the second half on a goal by Price.
De Soto had several shot attempts in the first half that came close, including a breakaway by Price that lead to a shot that just missed and bounced off the right post.
Stanley attacked the Gardner middle all game long and fed teammates for shots.
"That's her game," Erpelding said. "She's always on the attack. She doesn't care how good the other player is, she's going to attack their feet and she's going to beat them one-on-one. And when she does that she that she's going to draw two or three people, and then she can lay off to Danielle. They are a great combination in the middle. I thought they absolutely destroyed in the middle."
De Soto tried to rally late, but Gardner kicked in two more goals in the final minute. The score, though, didn't really reflect how well De Soto played, Erpelding said.
"I thought we were the better team," he said. "The score doesn't reflect the game. I told the girls I thought we controlled 80 to 90 percent of the game and sometimes you still lose. That happens. I wasn't disappointed with the effort. I thought we gave great effort. We let two goals that they were pretty undeserving on, and those last two cheap ones, but it happens."
De Soto (1-1) will look to bounce back against Basehor-Linwood on Thursday at De Soto.
— Jeff Deters contributed to this report.
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A man and a woman are dead after a two-vehicle crash on Route 134 in Grand-Digue, N.B.
Southeast District RCMP were called to the scene of the crash involving a motorcycle and a pickup truck around 12:30 p.m. on Saturday.
The 30-year-old motorcycle driver and his passenger, a 27-year-old woman, died as a result of their injuries.
RCMP Cpl. Alain LeBlanc said in a news release the crash happened when the motorcycle struck a pickup truck that was turning into a driveway. He said the motorcycle was attempting to pass at the time of the collision.
The investigation into the crash continues. Police have not released the names of the victims.


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Promising European officials not to implement a ban on the export of roundwood, the official Kiev completely forgotten about the national interests, the leader of the Public movement "the Ukrainian choice — the Right of the people" Viktor Medvedchuk.
"Kiev had long prepared the ground for the lifting of the moratorium on the export of roundwood. The Ministry of economic development and trade had said that the current ban on the export of unprocessed timber contrary to the provisions of a number of documents signed by Kiev, the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the EU, the Memorandum of understanding between Ukraine as the borrower and European Union as the creditor, the WTO Agreement. Thus, the fact that the said agreement was to the detriment of economic and national interests of Ukraine, provisions on the FTA with the EU, and the WTO are clearly discriminatory against our country ― Ukrainian "public-spirited" government does not bother", — the politician wrote in his blog.
Moreover, the leader of "Ukrainian choice" sure to generate "correct opinions" of the people, the government launched the flywheel of the propaganda machine.
"The Minister of agrarian policy and food of Ukraine Taras Kutovoy said that a third of deforestation in the Carpathians is illegal. Pocket experts diligently wrote about the fact that the wood exported through customs under other commodity codes, and tried to convince the public that the resumption of timber exports will create jobs and increase payments to the budget", — gave examples of Medvedchuk.
He also commented on the decision taken during the summit Ukraine ― the EU decision that Ukraine will not ban the export of roundwood.
"After the failure with the IMF loan and the EU's refusal to provide Ukraine tranche in the amount of 600 million euros, the official Kiev completely forgotten about the national interests. Instead of trying to restore order in the country, to rebuild the economy, to stimulate growth in production and exports of finished products with high added value, the integration for regular loans turned Ukraine into a raw materials appendage of the West. This means that neither economic prosperity nor a decent standard of living for Ukrainians to be expected. At least as long as staying in power, the "reformers"put the interests of Western patrons ahead of national interests of Ukraine", — said Viktor Medvedchuk.


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This is just a nightmare for everyone!
A mystery plaintiff (gender unknown) is suing a mystery celebrity (male) for $20 million in damages, after that celebrity knowingly gave them the herp!
According to TMZ, the claimant says that they a sexual fling in Las Vegas, but before hand they had asked the celeb about their STD status and they had assured them that they were clean as a whistle.
Yeah a big, herpes filled whistle…
The claimant even has video footage of the sex act that led to their infection and is bringing it to court.
If the lawsuit doesn't work out, the there are more moolah options for the newly herpified; porn companies are competing to get their hands on the video, one even offering a million bucks for the footage without ever seeing it or knowing who the celeb is. Apparently, there's a whole group of people called 'bug chasers' that knowingly seek out sex with STD infected partners.
Ummm, I had to judge, but that's just nasty.
Who do you think the secret celeb is? What we know is that he's a dude and that he's an A-lister and he's famous on an international scale. Leave your best guesses in the comments section below!
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Discussion in 'Classic Mustang Specific Tech' started by 1320stang, Jul 14, 2004.
$45 and go Money Order. My address is on FE Nats website.
They could call me a Fondling member.
A member in StangNet's Old Farts Club.
I may be getting Older, But I refuse to Grow Up...
The M.O. will be in the mail today, thanks Larry
experience with age eh fellas?
OK, now what's this? ^^^^^^^^^
Bullitt doesn't have the founding title, but his name is in Bold red?!?!?!??! What's that one about?????
Looks like: custom title > founding member status.
If you don't have a CT, I imagine it defaults from super stallion to founding member.
Veeeeerrrrry interesting. And I can't help notice that he's only been around since 2000 also. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
LOL...I bought my first Mustang 26 years ago and on here I'm a friggin noobie! Gotta luv the interweb!
Crap. Now I'm a "senior's member" for a title. I'd be happier with "wrinkled member" though. Doesn't sound quite as old.
hmm..am i a founding member?
.......................and yet, some "Founding Members" have contributed LESS than 1000 times in 5 or 6 years. I know, I know.............quality, not quantity.
Hey whatever happened to ol Super Dave, I know he was in bad health, but what is goin on w/ him lately?? And whatever happened to corpse????
And where the hell is gingerbreadman??????????????????????? Y'ol hippie!
I think people with the bold red title Pak, are ones that made a group purchase or something like that from stangnet.
Hey, I'm still around, and Worth is still breathing as well.
hey i want a fancy shcmancy title now
Why'd you start over Ozsum?
HEY!!! There's Craig, where have you been old man?
well......I've been hanging out in the........um....5.0 forum, I'M SORRY GUYS I SWEAR!
Uh oh, I'm seeing a ban coming on......
It's been a while since they've handed out some custom titles. Should we start making noise?


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Multisite Best Practices????
I have a question about the best way to set up wordpress for multiple subfolder sites using multisite and the plugins I could use.
a little background about where I am trying to go:
i am trying to set up an e-commerce style website where i will upload products and put them into categories. then those categories will only be visible to certain subfolders and customers who are logged in to that site with a predetermined password.
so in the end all the products of "category: level 1" will be visible on the sites and users of that particular site. "category: Level 2" would have different sites and users that have access to those products.
I would like to be able to admin. the products catalog from one spot and any changes would then be visible to any of the subsites or categories that product is connected to. This way i only need to upload the products into the catalog once and can then attach them to categories to show on the different subsites.
main site: example.com
Subsites: example.com/1, example.com/2, example.com/3
Categories: level 1, level 2, level 3, etc….
Products: 1, 2, 3, etc…
So in the end here is what i would like to see happen.
upload and create a product post in example.com, then have categories or tags of level 1, level 2, level 3, etc…. I would select the categories or tags that product goes to (say level 1 and level 3) and the product would ONLY show up on the subsites that have those categories or tags enabled.
The next product may go into level 2 and level 3 for example and would only show on the subsites that have those enabled.
hopefully this makes sense =P
What are the best steps to get this accomplished?
Is a Multisite install the best way to do this, or is running a single install with some plugins better?
What plugins might work for this?
what is a good ecommerce plugin that can do this?
Thanks in advance for any help you can give. I really appreciate it.
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SAVANNAH, Ga. -- When Mark McLeod was booked into the Chatham County jail, officers there had no idea the Augusta area man claimed he was marrying teen star Miley Cyrus.
They didn't know Mr. McLeod believes her father, Billy Ray Cryus, is ready to welcome the 53-year-old into the family as a son-in-law.
They didn't know, Chatham Sheriff's officials say, because they were never told by Tybee Island police. Mr. McLeod, of Appling in Columbia County, was booked into the Chatham jail June 22 and released June 23.
Wednesday night, Tybee Island Police Chief Jimmy Price still didn't see the need in telling jail officials.
"Why should we?" he asked, adding, "Who said he needed (psychiatric) help?"
But according to a report by one of Chief Price's officers, booking officials heard some of Mr. McLeod's far-fetched statements.
"McLeod stated to the booking personnel that he was Miley Cyrus' boyfriend," Officer Warren Millikan wrote in his arrest report.
"McLeod requested that they contact Cyrus 'before we waste all this time.'"
When asked whether Mr. McLeod's statements about marrying Miley, hearing secret messages from her over TV or being welcomed into the family would be indicators that a mental health evaluation might be needed, Chief Price answered: "I have no problem with it."
Chatham County jail officials, he said, did the right thing with their procedures.
Sheriff's Lt. Tommy Tillman said in an e-mail Wednesday that had Tybee police alerted them "to the seriousness of the situation," Mr. McLeod's booking might have been handled differently.
The jail could have called on full-time mental health counselors or a mental health doctor on call. They also have the option to send inmates to Georgia Regional and other mental health hospitals for treatment, Lt. Tillman said.
Tybee police Lt. Bob Bryson said Tuesday that island officers bring prisoners to the county jail with the expectation that officials there can initiate mental health screenings.
Lt. Tillman did not respond to a phone call Wednesday seeking further explanation of jail procedures.
'No active case'
Nothing in Mr. McLeod's arrest charges indicated he was a potential stalker, either.
Mr. McLeod was charged with two misdemeanors - disorderly conduct and obstructing a law enforcement officer.
Because Mr. McLeod was considered nonviolent and had no felony charges, he was allowed to be released on a signature bond. In it, he promised to return for a Sept. 1 court date on Tybee.
Law enforcement officials currently do not know Mr. McLeod's whereabouts. Arrest records indicate he is from Appling, a town 25 miles west of Augusta.
Tybee police say they are watching the island and the movie set, where Miley is filming "The Last Song."
Should he show up, Bryson said Tuesday, Mr. McLeod could be charged with stalking or aggravated stalking, depending on the circumstances.
Mr. McLeod could not have been charged with stalking on June 22, Lt. Bryson said, because a pattern of behavior is required.
Based on Mr. McLeod's behavior, which included trying to head-butt an officer and screaming obscenities when officers tried to remove him from the pier, Lt. Bryson said Tuesday that Mr. McLeod should be considered a threat.
On Wednesday, he said Chief Price would handle any comments to the media.
Also Wednesday, a detective with the Los Angeles Police Department's threat management unit, which handles celebrity stalking cases, also released a statement through the media relations department.
According to LAPD, detectives were notified by Disney security officials about Mr. McLeod's arrest on Tybee. They obtained a copy of the report in the event that Mr. McLeod might try to approach the teen at her home there.
The department is not working an active case, according to the statement. When asked whether Mr. McLeod had been arrested previously, Officer Karen Rayner said LAPD policy prohibits disclosing a previous criminal history.


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A suicide bomber badly wounded a provincial president in Russia's North Caucasus on Monday, an assassination attempt that undermined the Kremlin's claim that it has brought stability to the predominantly Muslim region.
Yunus Bek Yevkurov was the third top official to be wounded or killed in the last three weeks in the area of southern Russia around Chechnya, which was devastated by two separatist wars in the last 15 years.
No one immediately claimed responsibility for the bombing in Ingushetia province, where Yevkurov has tried to halt violence by Islamic militants.
A car rigged with TNT exploded as the presidential convoy traveled outside the provincial center, Nazran. The blast tore Yevkurov's armored sedan to pieces and killed two of his bodyguards.
Yevkurov spokesman Kaloi Akhilgov said the president suffered a serious concussion and broken ribs, but that his life was not in danger. Hospital and emergency officials, however, said Yevkurov was in critical condition with burns, brain injuries and damage to internal organs.
Yevkurov's burnt-out car stood in the grass off the roadside, its windows shattered, its wheels missing and most of its front end destroyed. Shrapnel was scattered for hundreds of meters (yards) and there was blood on the ground in several places. Two roadside houses had their roofs damaged and their windows shattered.
Russia's chief prosecutor said Yevkurov was most likely targeted by militants or local criminal clans angry about his crackdown on corruption.
Rebels have felt increasingly cornered under Yevkurov, a former military intelligence officer who was named president in October as the Kremlin sought to bring a measure of stability to Ingushetia. The province had been plunged into violence under the previous leader, former KGB officer Murat Zyazikov.
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev called for "direct and ruthless" action against the perpetrators of the attack.
Alexei Malashenko, a North Caucasus expert at the Carnegie Moscow Center, said the attack demonstrated the federal government's inability to stem the spread of Islamic militancy in the region. "The Kremlin can't control anything in the Caucasus," he said.
Malashenko said that while Yevkurov made enemies among corrupt officials in the region, the attack was most likely triggered by his actions against Islamic militants, who have moved easily between Chechnya and Ingushetia. The attack came exactly five years after Chechen militants raided law enforcement offices in Nazran on June 22, 2004 – a coincidence that appeared to signal rebel involvement.
Last month, Yevkurov pooled efforts with Chechnya's Kremlin-backed President Ramzan Kadyrov to conduct a security sweep along the forested border between the two provinces.
"The attempt to kill Yevkurov was a response to the joint operation by Chechen and Ingush police," said Yulia Latynina, a political commentator who writes extensively about the North Caucasus. "Yevkurov has been very efficient on the job, and he angered the militants."
While going after rebel leaders, the Ingush president also sought to negotiate pardons for some rebels who would agree to put down their weapons, as Kadyrov did in Chechnya.
Yevkurov had also moved quickly to end abuses against civilians by security forces – actions that contrasted sharply with the repressive rule of his predecessor and quickly made him popular in the region.
He flew economy class and until recently had refused to use an armored vehicle, Latynina said.
"Yevkurov was absolutely fearless," she said. "He was a model officer."
Ingushetia, one of Russia's poorest regions, saw its scare resources drained by an influx of refugees from Chechnya. While Chechnya has become relatively more stable under Kadyrov, Ingushetia and other neighboring provinces have been increasingly plagued by violence.
On June 10, gunmen killed a deputy chief justice of Ingushetia's Supreme Court opposite a kindergarten in Nazran as she dropped off her children. Three days later, the region's former deputy prime minister was gunned down as he stood outside his home in Nazran.
On June 5, the top law enforcement officer of another North Caucasus region, Dagestan, was killed by a sniper as he stood outside a restaurant where a wedding was taking place.
Isachenkov reported from Moscow. Associated Press writers Mike Eckel in Moscow, Musa Sadulayev in Nazran and Sergei Venyavsky in Rostov-on-Don contributed to this report.


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Chicago's first foie gras bust went down Friday morning at a hot dog joint on the North Side, just as Doug Sohn was about to open for the day.
It could hardly have come as a shock.
Sohn, the owner of Hot Doug's, had been itching for a fight since the City Council overrode the angry veto of Mayor Richard "It's the silliest law ever" Daley. The ordinance took effect Aug. 22.


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TEHRAN, June 22 (UPI) -- A press freedom group ranks Iran next to China as the world's biggest prison for journalists as a post-election crackdown on media continued in Iran.
Since Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's endorsement of the result of the presidential election, and the opposition's decision to call another demonstration Saturday, at least 33 journalists and cyber-dissidents have been jailed, Reporters Without Borders reported Monday on its Web site. Journalists who could not be located at their homes have been summoned by telephone by Tehran's prosecutor general.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared the landslide winner over his nearest challenger, Mir Hossein Mousavi. Since the elections, protests have turned violent. Iranian news sources reported 13 people were killed Saturday. CNN reported hospital sources put the number dead at 19 while other unconfirmed sources indicated the toll was higher.
"The force of the demonstrations in Tehran is increasing fears that more Iranian journalists could be arrested and more foreign journalists could be expelled," Reporters Without Borders said. "The regime has been visibly shaken by its own population and does not want to let this perception endure. That is why the media have become a priority target."
The international organization during the weekend asked the European Union's 27 member countries not to recognize Ahmadinejad's re-election.
"If President Ahmadinejad does not agree to respect press freedom, he must be made to see reason," the letter from Reporters Without Borders to the member nations read. "A clear and unequivocal rejection of the election results by European leaders could force Ahmadinejad to yield. The nuclear stakes in Iran must not serve as a pretext for saying nothing. This is not the time for timid or cautious statements."


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Utah State men's tennis is scheduled to start off its 2013 spring season against BYU on Saturday, January 12. The match will begin at 12 p.m.
Coming off of a successful fall season, USU is looking to start the spring season off right. Utah State is looking forward to a new season after finishing last spring with a 5-14 record and a 0-4 record in Western Athletic Conference play.Comment on this story
The Aggie men will be led by seven returning players including senior Sven Poslusny; juniors, Brandon Nielsen, Fredrik Peterson and Andrew Whiting; and sophomores Tanner Dance, Curran Wearmouth and Matt Sweet. Utah State also has two newcomers, junior Matt Thatcher and freshman Zeno Kastelic.
Following the trip to Provo, the men's tennis team will travel to Pocatello Idaho to take on Idaho State, January 17 at 1 pm. The first home match for Utah State will be February 6, against Weber State, and will begin at 12 p.m.


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Instant replay continues to be a hot topic after some questionable calls last week.
But George Black - the CFL's director of officiating - still believes in the new tool.
"I think it's going pretty well," he said. "We're learning every week, but that's going to happen."
Up to and including Week 4, there have been 12 reviewed replay challenges, with six being overturned.
Grilled yesterday on replay and officiating issues, here's Black's interesting takes:
On the fact CBC broadcaster Sean Millington questioned the professionalism and bias of an officiating crew, suggesting officials ruled Kerry Watkins didn't make a TD catch because of anger toward Montreal coach Don Matthews: "If I found unprofessionalism ... I'd fire (officials) on the spot."
On the fact a team challenged a call with 2:59 left in a game last weekend, when the rule states only officials can call a challenge inside three minutes: "The play started prior to the three-minute warning."


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When I look back as a YCPT leader from the first time I came to YCPT until now, I still can't believe how much we've grown. I have to admit that at first I wasn't too impressed. It was a small group without much of a claim to fame in the community. I had thought it would be just a regular community serivce group with nothing special. But was I wrong. YCPT exceeded my initial expectations. At first, I joined because I needed community service hours and my mom had found YCPT in the korean newspaper. I thought, "Okay, so I guess I'll go. " I was welcomed with a first day party along with other new members. During an icebreaker game, I was asked what my expectations were from YCPT. I honestly answered that I never really thought about it. (At the time, I really didn't think that far ahead.)It was awkward in the beginning. I was surrounded by new people and felt overwhelmed. Yet at the same time, I kept coming back to the weekly team meetings. Before I knew it, I was gradually participating and talking to other members of YCPT. I actually got used to the YCPT people quickly, which doesn't happen normally when I'm stuck with a bunch of new people. Something about the group drew me into it. Soon I made friends and found myself taking an active voice in our team meetings. (Usually, I sit back and just hope to slip by.) By joining YCPT, my social skills have improved. I don't find talking to new people as weird as I would've felt before. Eventually, I became a leader. Being a leader has been a lot of work. The projects we do aren't easy. Some have required long hours into the night! On top of that, the other leaders and I had the responsibility of leading our team. It's tough especailly for me because I'm infamous for being a push-over. (My friends always say that I'm too nice.) Until now, I'm working on developing leadership skills without being harsh. (Yes, I'm slowly getting there.) But I couldn't have gotten far without my YCPT friends and YCPT coordinator, Marie. Marie has always welcomed me since the welcome party. She always made sure that I wasn't alone in corner and helped me to open up. Marie created many chances for me to become more outgoing and less tense. She encourages me and the team to talk to each other and have fun. I feel like she understands the youth. Marie knows how to make a comfortable, cozy environment. She has a lot of patience with us and knows how to be fair. She works with us and adds fun to the work. Marie is definitely a person who has made a positive impact on my life. I'd say that she's the best coordinator! My YCPT friends are a quirky group. I can't describe them with one word. They're a lot of different things. But, they are NOT boring. I've met people from other parts of Queens, Long Island, Upstate New York, and New Jersey!My YCPT friends are awesome and fun to be around. Weekly meetings are never dull as a result. Each friend has brought something new to my life. Everything from their tastes in music to new foods to amazingly random stuff came into my life. I love how each of them have original personalities that I'd never encountered before. Other than my school friends, I consider my YCPT friends as my 'second family'. Besides building a community within our group, YCPT has done numerous hands-on projects that get everyone involved. We've helped our community through fundraising and doing various activities. We had done things from coffeehouses to sorting through baby toys. It's a lot of fun and hard work. The projects are very time-consuming. By the end of the day, we get everything done. YCPT is a group that I recommend to anyone who wants to meet awesome new people and get service hours. It can be intimidating at first, but you'll open up to YCPT. It can catch you by surprise.
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meetng so many new people in one place. it can be hard to make new friends, but ycpt makes it less challenging to make friends. the projects bring us closer together. the environment is friendly and comfortable. ycpt has amazingly fun people. i love it
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A 4.5 m long steel wire has a cross-section area of 0.055 cm2. Its proportional limit has a value of 0.0014 times its Young's modulus (see a table) . Its breaking stress has a value of 0.0059 times its Young's modulus. The wire is fastened at its upper end and hangs vertically.
(a) How great a weight can be hung from the wire without exceeding the proportional limit?
(b) How much will the wire stretch under this load?
(c) What is the maximum weight that the wire can support?
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Albert Luque's father and agent claims Ajax coach Marco van Basten has gone back on his word.
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Last Updated: 06/08/08 12:44pm
Albert Luque has been made to train with the Ajax second team, with his father and agent claiming coach Marco van Basten has gone back on his word.
Van Basten has made it clear which players he wants to leave the club before the transfer window closes and Luque is on the list.
But the former Newcastle United flop's father Rafael is surprised by the situation following a meeting he had with Van Basten last week.
"The last time that we spoke was only last week," he told Marca. "Then the coach said that Albert was a very important member of the squad and that he had plenty more to give the team.
Makes no sense
"But unfortunately in football, what is one colour one day can always be different the next.
"We understand that Ajax want to build a squad with players of 20 or 21 because that is the philosophy of the club. We respect that approach, but it makes no sense to make a player that did so well last season now train with the second team.
"Nobody at the club has contacted Albert and officially told him that he will be training with them anyway, so tomorrow he will be going to work with the first team. Then we will see what happens."
Van Basten is keen to trim his squad and also wants to offload Kennedy Bakircioglu, Leonardo, George Ogararu and Dennis Rommedahl, although the quartet will remain with the first-team squad.
"We have been back at work for three weeks and all the players have had their chance," Van Basten said. "That time has allowed us to have an idea of what we want and now we know what the squad will be.
"The transfer market closes at the end of the month and I expect the matter of those players that we do not count on to be solved because my plan is to have just 24 to work with."


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If you're searching a good job and seems like the funniest job in the world, you should try to apply a position to Maneesh Sethi. He is a blogger from San Fransisco who recently had just hired a person just to slap him. The salary is also great, $8 per hour… or about $1920 per month by assumption of working 8 hours per day. Oh wow!
Maneesh did this because he felt that he too much waste his time in Facebook, YouTube and Reddit when working. He had done research by using time management tools. The result showed Maneesh work productivity is only 38%. Rest of them? Wasted on Facebook, YouTube, Reddit and others.
To overcome it, Maneesh directly posted a vacancy in Craiglist and search for a person who's willing to work for him.
Here is the vacancy he opened in Craiglist:
Title: Slap me when Ignoring Work…
I'm searching for someone who's able to work with me in defined location (whether home or café), and willing to monitor whatever in my laptop screen. If I wasted my time, you can yell or slap me if you need to.
You can do your other work at the same time. Searched immediately. Salary: $8 per hour
Less than an hour after posted the vacancy in Craiglist, there was already 20 incoming emails. Maneesh finally chose Kara, a woman who seems so dedicated to monitor Maneesh works.
When the work hour arrived, Maneesh met Kara. He gave some worklist he supposed to do, and if Maneesh out of that list, Kara may slap him.
In three hours, Maneesh already received some slaps which seemed… ouch… hurt!… hehe… :D
By this effort, finally Maneesh successfully increased his productivity from 38% to 98%! Wow… It's worth hiring 'slapper' with such expensive salary ^^
Low productivity is truly haunted whoever works without supervisor (including me! Hehe…). Temptation to get relax, playful, and lazy is so great. SOT tried to overcome it using StayFocusd chrome extension combined with Pomodoro technique. But, seeing the Maneesh successfulness, it seems like SOT should also consider to recruit a 'slapper' too. What do you think? ^^


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Time Travel
Stravaganza: City of Masks by Mary Hoffman
The hospital's treatment has left Lucien sick in his bed, hardly able to keep anything down, let alone move. It's been months since he felt any joy in living, and, as the days drag on, he's finding it harder and harder to speak. But he can't help but see his parents' eyes fill with tears as they watch him fade away. The chemo might be enough to help him. Nothing but time will tell, and, for now, Lucien has lots of that.
When his dad brings him a handsome notebook, found in a derelict house on the outskirts of London, Lucien is intrigued. It's a very old piece, the work of a master craftsman. Its thick paper and marbled cover feel good to the touch. The pages are blank, but somehow it still comforts him as he slips into his first deep sleep in many days.
Jon Scieszka (pronounce that SHESH-ka) is a wild and crazy guy. Don't leave the man alone in a room with an old-fashioned story. He'll twist it and bend it around 'til it looks like something that should be dripping with cheese and sold at the shopping mall.
His takes on classic tales are so off-the-wall you'll wonder what it would have been like to have him in your class. Let me tell you: it would have been dangerous-for you. He'd sit quietly, and then he'd crack up the other kids without making a sound. THEY would be the ones to get into trouble. Not Jon.


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What Drives Quality of Firm Risk Disclosure?
This paper examines the impact of a detailed national disclosure standard on the quality of firms' overall risk reviews under IFRS. We use data from a sample of listed Finnish firms around the introduction of the standard and find that national regulatory bodies have been able to raise the quality of risk disclosure on several dimensions even under IFRS. We find increases in the quantity of risk disclosure with more extensive and more comprehensive information. We do not, however, find a corresponding increase in quantitative disclosures and therefore there is some question regarding the influence of the standard on the substance of the risk information provided. In addition to the coercive effect of the standard, several important reporting incentives, such as firm size, profitability, and foreign listing status are documented. We also find some evidence that the impact of the standard on quality is more pronounced among less profitable firms. Additional findings are that larger firms and firms reporting under the requirements of the SEC disclose more quantitative risk information, and that the quality improvements are permanent in the subsequent years. The findings have implications for standard-setters evaluating different strategies with the aim to increase the quality of the narratives in annual reports.
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The Agenda
Inside the Clinton White House
By Bob Woodward
Simon & Schuster, 352 pages, $24
The Agenda
Inside the Clinton White House
By Bob Woodward
Simon & Schuster, 352 pages, $24
If Washington exemplifies the heady, though at times suspect, mix of journalism and the free market, Bob Woodward is its premier reporter-merchant.
Access is a crucial coin of the realm in the capital, and Woodward is Fort Knox. His track record, his native skills as a poker-faced and seductive interrogator and his cachet as the best-known employee of the Washington Post Co., which owns the big paper in a company town and a major newsweekly, Newsweek-all this gives him access only dreamed of by most others in his craft.
High-ranking potential sources of information do not try to elude Woodward, nor do they dismiss him as a stooge or a disreputable wretch, as they do many reporters. Instead, apparently fearing the consequences of not courting him, they plot how to curry favor with Woodward and even how to turn him to their view of events. The Wheaton, Ill.,-bred author of "All the President's Men" and "The Commanders," among other books, also benefits from our age of self-promotion, in which even keepers of government secrets may not want to await memoirs 20 years hence.
Woodward's latest effort, an examination of President Clinton's first 18 months and the administration's internal battle over economic policy, has already benefited from marketing "synergy." Both his own paper and Newsweek have run excerpts of the book, Mike Wallace gave it solicitous treatment on "60 Minutes" and the capital's most aggressive media shill, CNN's Larry King, has wrapped Woodward in the same inquisitorial embrace he offers every cultural icon from Ross Perot to Victoria Principal.
More important, "The Agenda" suggests that virtually every key player, from a devoutly self-righteous and secretive Hillary Rodham Clinton and badgered top aide George Stephanopoulos to cunning Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen, spoke to Woodward as if he were the administration's Edward Gibbon. For them and others, saying something, anything, was apparently better than saying nothing and thus leaving it to someone else to determine your place in history.
The result is a book whose parts are greater than its whole, a print counterpart to some of the efforts of film documentarian Frederick Wiseman, who arrives at an institution (welfare office, public school, hospital, etc.) and lets his cameras roll unobtrusively. The results can be engrossing but also deadening.
"The Agenda" opens with a scene that must have seemed heaven-sent to Woodward's publisher-Bill and Hillary in bed in 1991, concluding that he can be nominated for and be elected president. But this is a tale of the boardroom, not the bedroom, of institutional democracy run amok and of an indecisive chief executive who is obsessed with pleasing everybody. The results are both engrossing and deadening.
There is Clinton's courting of such father figures as Treasury Secretary Bentsen and Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan. (Check out the growing literature on adult children of alcoholics and their need to please older folk; Clinton comes off as a textbook case.) There are battles over whether populist campaign promises were practical any longer. And there is some good old-fashioned dealmaking, as a cornerstone of candidate Clinton's run for the White House, a middle-class tax cut, was abandoned as nonchalantly as one might switch from "Larry King Live" to the Home Shopping Network while channel-grazing.
"You didn't get elected to do Wall Street economics," Hillary declares at one point-her husband having become the acolyte of Bentsen, Greenspan and others who preached the importance of accommodating the same Wall Street and bond market denizens reviled by Clinton's more populist advisers.
"I know this thing is a turkey," Clinton is quoted as conceding about the much-altered economic plan he ultimately sells Congress, a plan whose Cuisinart-like development is detailed by Woodward with a numbing intensity.
No surprise that the plan was a turkey. As Woodward reveals, the decision-making process spun out of control so quickly that Clinton's goal no longer was an economic plan that reflected his or the nation's desires. The goal was simply to avoid losing in Congress and to let the president convince himself that some morsel of his initial battle plan had passed.


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Some things go great together. Like peanut butter and jelly. Or Democrats and Chicago. Other things go really badly together, like ObamaCare and amnesty for 11 million illegal aliens.
Some things go great together. Like peanut butter and jelly. Or Democrats and Chicago. Other things go really badly together, like ObamaCare and amnesty for 11 million illegal aliens.
How badly? This badly.
Any immigration package in which current illegal immigrants are made eligible for Obamacare — in the form of either exchanges or Medicaid — could increase costs to the federal government by between $120 billion to $200 billion in its first decade, according to internal calculations by the Republican side of the Senate budget committee that were obtained exclusively by The Daily Caller.
GOP Senate budget committee staffers explained to TheDC that the estimates assume that the law's provision capping total spending on exchange subsidies, which is set to begin in 2019, is enforced.
However, should the provision fall by the wayside, as some analysts believe it could, the staffers estimate the cost of Obamacare could increase between $210 billion to $300 billion over the next 10 years.
That 300 billion will, as Sweetness and Light points out, eat up half the money from Obama's mega tax hike. The added social spending in other areas and increased crime rates, plus cut rate state college tuitions will probably eat up the other half. But that's what wealth redistribution looks like. It's also what bankruptcy looks like.
But there's good news. When Obama destroys American Medicine, Americans will always be able to outsource their health care to Mexico.
With health care costs in Mexico available at a fraction of U.S. prices, Mexican facilities can help fill a growing demand for services including dentistry, surgery, long-term care and assisted living, advocates said. But providers still face hurdles, and one major step would be certifying private Mexican hospitals to U.S. standards so that older Americans could use their Medicare benefits in Mexico.
"Congress is not going to approve Medicare for Mexico until they're very comfortable that the quality of medical care is there," said Paul Crist, president of Americans for Medicare in Mexico.
U.S. health care reform is expected to expand the pool of workers with medical insurance, with 100,000 to 300,000 additional enrollees expected in San Diego and Imperial counties by 2014, said Frank Carrillo.
"The system cannot handle it here, so they need to look at Mexico as a safety net," Carrillo said.
Viva la revolución panel de la muerte


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Servos and power system for XL3200?
The XL3200 from NSP is a 122" electric sailplane with a predicted flying weight of 72 oz. It has a beautiful built-up wing with flaps and ailerons. I have purchased the following power and radio equipment:
Mega 10 FAI SP motor (direct drive) (72 oz. thrust, 77+ amps)
A-120 speed control (80 amps) from Diversity Model Aircraft
10 Cell 2400 mAh battery from Diversity Model Aircraft
Hitec HS300 servos for elevator and rudder
Hitec 225MG metal-geared servos for flaps
Hitec Eclipse 7 with Supreme 8-channel receiver and 600 mAh receiver battery
I still haven't purchased servos for the ailerons so I'm looking for suggestions. I'm also looking for input on the suitability of the equipment I've purchased so far. Keep in mind my main goal is to end up with a thermal sailplane that is as light as possible but still gives me 2-3 decent (not vertical!) climbs to thermal altitude. I'm wondering if the power setup might be a little overkill especially since the motor weighs over 15 ounces. Seems like I could use a smaller motor battery too. Since my focus is on relatively gentle thermal flying I'm wondering if the 225Mg servos are overkill for the flaps.
I've only been flying electrics for a few months (Aspire EP) so I appreciate your feedback!
Hi Jim; One of the small Aveox or other brushless motors geared will give plenty of thrust. I use a Mag Mayhem geared in a 100" 70+ oz glider and it does fine on 8 cells and 25 amps. Any of the brushless setups mentioned would be lighter than that even and provide more power. Any geared system should be more effecient. You might wat to download the trial version of Motocalc and put in the parameters of your plane. You can do a lot of experimenting on there before you buy. Did someone recommend this setup you have?
Reply to Adam
Thanks Adam for your reply. Steve Belknap of Diversity Model Aircraft recommended the power setup. He knew how frustrated I had been with my Aspire EP which was woefully underpowered with the stock motor. I was trying to keep the costs reasonable so thta may be why he didn't recommend gear reduction ro another motor. I probably should have emphasized that I was looking for the lightest system possible with adequate power. I didn't know that the Mega 10 SP was that much heavier than comparable motors. In a nutshell, I'm looking for the best bang-for-the-buck/lowest weight system that will still provide good climb performance. I'm sure the system I have will work fine - I'm just concerned about the weight.
Well Jim Ill try to be honest. The setup you have is not inexpensive. For around $300.00 you could get a geared brushless setup that would equal the climb/thrust of your setup at about 1/2 the amps. For about $200.00 you could have a good geared brushed setup. Your setup will work but it is not effecient. I would return the Items; It doesnt sound like they are going to suit your needs. If you get a setup that draws less current you can get much lighter batteries and run a BEC controller. Your plane is big enough to handle the weight but if you want light weight you could save a lot there.
Adam -- Thanks again for your input. I think I agree with you! Can you recommend specific power setups for this plane in the 2 categories you mentioned so I can start shopping? The manufacturer (Reichard) recommends a motor with at least 350 watts of power.
Also, which BEC would be safe to use when running 6 servos? Everyone I've talked to at my club (Silent Electric Flyers Of San Diego) says that I shouldn't use a BEC controller with more than 3 servos.
Last edited by jshelton; Oct 23, 2001 at 01:09 PM.
Ok Here are a couple quickies; Jeti controllers are rated for 5 servos. You arent going to be flying around sawing the sticks. Also when you only use 7 or 8 cells its less of a load on the BEC circuit than using 10 cells. If you are worried about it, adding a RX pack and using a non BEC controller is always an option.
Brushless; Hacker B40 8L 4.4:1 gearbox $229.00 Jeti 40 controller $88.00
Brushed setup; Kyosho Endoplasma $19.00; 4.4:1 Gearbox $79.00 Jeti 50amp controller $80.00.
Ill get back on here later and provide some links. There may be some better setups as this was just a quick look around recommendation. Even at that either one of these would probably work good for what you want.
Hi Jim; Here is a good source for the Hacker Brushless setups. Talk to Sean and tell him the performance you are looking for. Dont forget to download the Motocalc program. It will help sort thru different options. I would look for 700 to 1000 fpm climb rate. That should give you a 30 to 45 second motor run to thermal height. I went to NES web site and looked at the XL. Its a beaut! I can understand you wanting to keep it light.
If you decide to get a brushed setup talk to Kirk at New creations. He should be able to fix you up with a good planatery gearbox and the Jeti controller. The Kyosho Endo motors are back ordered now at Tower Hobbies but there are a few other car motors that will work also. You may locate a Endo motor at a local hobby shop that sells car stuff.
Last edited by Adam Neat; Oct 23, 2001 at 07:52 PM.
Good info Adam. I'll go to the link and take a look.
BTW -- I totalled up the weight for the XL3200 and it comes out to quite a bit more than the predicted 72oz. With my current setup here are the weights:
Airframe: 47.5 oz
Motor,battery,speed control,prop: 38.5 oz
Radio equipment w/6 servos
and 3 oz600mAh receiver battery: 11+ oz.
Predicted total weight: 97 oz.
Predicted wing loading: 14.4 oz sq ft.
This is a lot higher than predicted on the NSP website. Even with a much lighter power setup I can't see it being much less than 84 oz. To hit the 72 oz. weight I would need a power system that weighs about 13 - 18 oz. depending on whether I use a separate receiver battery.
Actually, I'm fascinated by all of the technology and I'm determined to master it!
I really appreciate your time and input. I feel that most of the "common wisdom" from the club members is heavily influenced by their experience with hotliners and F5B ships. They usually have a focus on motor duration and plane speed rather than thermal duration. I'm usually one of the few at the field doing thermal duration flying.
The so called "flying weights" are sometimes misleading. Try to find out the empty weight before you purchase. That way you can determine the true flying weight for your setup.
Another thing that can cause you to have more weight than you might have thought is the distance from the CG to the nose. A short distance (a short nose) sometimes means you need to either add weight to the nose, or use a heavier motor than you were going to. This can also be true for a tail heavy plane, even when the nose isn't short.
So two things - the empty weight and the balance - will determine your flying weight.
Tim Green
You should be able to get close to your predicted weight with the lighter setup. The 1200 and 1300 cells are close to 1oz lighter each and if you go with 7 or 8 cells instead of 10 youve got a lot there. The smaller motors should come out less than 10 oz with the gearbox and controller. Youre on the right track. Like Tim said if balance doesnt end up being a problem you could even try an 800ar cell and save a little more.
Motocalc results for XL3200
Thanks everyone for your input and suggestions. I downloaded a trial version of Motocalc and after a lot of exploration I came up with the following system which gives me flyign weight of about 80 oz. and a wing loading of about 12 oz./sq. ft. with motor time of over 4 1/2 minutes. The climb rate is 1310ft/min @ 44.9°. My only concern is that the battery heat ranges from 157 to 106 degrees. Motocalc doesn't complain so I assume that the range is safe for this type of battery pack.
Hacker B40 10L
Sanyo 1100SCR; 10 cells
16x10in Prop w/6:1 Gearbox
Take a look and let me know what you think!
The performance table is attached and here's the 'opinion' report from Motocalc:
MotOpinion - XL3200-Hacker B40 10L
Sea Level, 65°F
Motor: Hacker B40 10L; 3000rpm/V; 0.0177 Ohms; 1.29A idle.
Battery: Sanyo 1100SCR; 10 cells; 1100mAh @ 1.2V; 0.0043 Ohms/cell.
Speed Control: Generic Brushless ESC; 0.006 Ohms; High rate.
Drive System: Generic 16x10in Prop w/6:1 Gearbox; 16x10 (Pconst=1.25; Tconst=0.956) geared 6:1.
Airframe: XL3200; 970sq.in; 80.8oz; 12oz/sq.ft; Cd=0.037; Cl=0.51; Clopt=0.72; Clmax=1.11.
Stats: 73 W/lb in; 65 W/lb out; 17mph stall; 21mph opt @ 49% (25:32); 25mph level @ 57% (20:02); 1310ft/min @ 44.9°; -122ft/min @ -3.8°.
Power System Notes:
The full-throttle motor current at the best lift-to-drag ratio airspeed (35A) falls between the motor's maximum efficiency current (25A) and its current at maximum output (242.3A), thus making effective use of the motor.
Aerodynamic Notes:
The static pitch speed (45mph) is within the range of approximately 2.5 to 3 times the model's stall speed (17mph), which is considered ideal for good performance.
With a wing loading of 12oz/sq.ft, a model of this size will have very sedate flying characteristics. It will be suitable for relaxed flying, in calm or very light wind conditions.
The static thrust (81.4oz) to weight (80.8oz) ratio is 1.01:1, which will result in very short take-off runs, no difficulty taking off from grass surfaces (assuming sufficiently large wheels), and steep climb-outs.
At the best lift-to-drag ratio airspeed, the excess-thrust (54.9oz) to weight (80.8oz) ratio is 0.68:1, which will give steep climbs and excellent acceleration. This model should be able to do consecutive loops, and has sufficient in-flight thrust for almost any aerobatic maneuver.
General Notes:
This analysis is based on calculations that take motor heating effects into account.
Hi Jim; I dont think the B40 hackers are available with a 6:1 gearbox. They come with a 4.4:1. As far as the heat issue you should only be running the motor in short bursts; 30 to 45 seconds followed by hopefully several minutes of gliding with the motor off. Using the Motowizard feature is nice but it doesnt take things like what ratio gearbox is available in the configuration you need. Youre on the right track. I thought you were looking for a little more "mild" performance Heck the combo you picked has a +1:1 thrust ratio! A torque roll with a 122" glider would sure impress everyone Take another look at the Hacker setups available and juggle around your prop size/cell count. The B40's are good for 40 amps so keep the current under that. Also look at the readily available prop sizes and make sure you pick a size that is available.
Yeah -- I'm learning that Motocalc's database isn't necessarily accurate. It also seems to contain a lot of power setups that it at first suggests are optimum and then it tells you it unsuitable!Actually, I don't need vertical performance, but the Hacker motors seem to have about the lowest weight for the power I need.
I'll jump back into Motocalc and see if I can find a "real" solution!
Thanks, Jim
Are you talking the 4.4 gear box from Aero-Model and if so, what is your opinion of the 19 turn Trinity with that box for a 2M, 50 oz.(?) climb and glide. Same idea, light weight to maintain the gliding performance as much as possible. 2 or 3 climbs and 20-30 minute bec?
Thanks - Jack
Yes Jack thats the one; If you want fewer climbs and lighter weight go with a hotter motor(fewer turns) The beauty of a setup like that is its easy and inexpensive to experiment with. You can catch some decent car motors on sale for less than $20.00. You should be able to get great performance out of a setup like that. If its one of the lighter built up 2 meter ships you might want to be careful. It would be easy to over-power.
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