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- BSO Case Number: 90-1305-0001963
- PIO Number: 13-5-13A
- Date: May 16, 2013
- Time: 12:55 a.m.
- Place of Occurrence: 2409 N.W. 15 Ct., Ft. Lauderdale
- Jurisdiction: unincorporated Broward County near Ft. Lauderdale
- Damian Royer, 25, male, North Lauderdale (HOSPITALIZED)
- Kevon J. Obas, 20, male, 3/27/93, 2416 NW 52 Ave., Lauderhill (IN CUSTODY)
- Unidentified accomplice (AT LARGE)
Description of Incident:
One man is in custody and one remains at large in connection with the May 16 shooting and robbery outside the Champion Food Store in unincorporated Central Broward.
Broward Sheriff's Office detectives arrested Kevon Obas, 20, on Tuesday, May 21, at his home in Lauderhill without incident.
The May 16 surveillance images from the Champion Food Store, 2409 N.W. 15 Ct., Ft. Lauderdale, show Obas and another man walking westbound on Northwest 15 Court in front of the business around 12:55 a.m. Off camera, two men are playing craps and they spot one of the pedestrians take out a gun as the pair heads toward them. The images show the two victims running away from the suspects as shots are being fired at them. One of the victims, Damian Royer, 25, falls to the ground and the suspects run past him as they chase the second victim. Moments later, a black, two-door Pontiac G6 pulls up next to Royer. A man exits the passenger side of the car, searches through the Royer's pockets, gets back in the car and they drive away.
Broward Sheriff Fire Rescue transported Royer to Broward Health Medical Center in critical condition. Doctors say, if he survives, he will likely be a quadriplegic.
The second suspect involved in the shooting is described as a dark skin, black male, chubby, with long dreadlocks covered by a knit hat and was last seen wearing an orange shirt.
Anyone with information about this robbery, the second suspect or the getaway vehicle is asked to contact BSO Violent Crimes Detective Devoune Williams at 954-321-4235 or Broward Crime Stoppers, anonymously, at 954-493-TIPS (8477) or www.browardcrimestoppers.org.
***MEDIA NOTE: Pictures of the robbery are available on www.sheriff.org under PIO # 13-5-13.
- INVESTIGATORS: Det. Williams, CID Violent Crimes; Central Broward
- THIS REPORT BY: Keyla Concepción/PIO 5/22/13 1700
Posted At: 05/22/2013 04:55 PM
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The weeks preceding the unforeseen losses caused by Europe's volcanic ash crisis saw improved trading conditions across much of the airline sector and, in its wake, revived momentum for long-anticipated consolidation between carriers on both sides of the Atlantic.
On April 8, British Airways and Iberia announced that they have reached agreement on their planned merger and hope to consummate it by year-end. But first they will need to secure anti-trust approval from the European Commission and overcome potential obstacles such as BA's $5.6 billion pension deficit, which accounts for one of several issues that could prompt Iberia to exercise its right to back out of the deal. Assuming the marriage goes ahead, BA and Iberia will trade under the unimaginative name International Airlines Group, with a headquarters in London and a tax base in Spain. Meanwhile, BA continues to press for approval of its planned tie-up with American Airlines and the prospect of that union extending into some sort of ménage a trois with the Spanish flag carrier has given Virgin Atlantic Airways boss Sir Richard Branson fresh ammunition in his efforts to persuade Brussels officials of its anti-competitive prospects.
Meanwhile, United Airlines continues to play the field, launching merger talks with US Airways in the same week that the BA and Iberia announced their nuptials. According to unconfirmed reports, the public flirtation between United and US Airways has convinced Continental Airlines, which shunned United two years ago, to reconsider its position and restart talks with UAL.
Meanwhile, the financial impact of extensive disruption of flights into Europe and by rising oil prices could influence the prospective partners' share valuations, which will prove critical to the outcome of the proposed mergers in terms of the equity dowry they might bring to the altar. A separate consideration for BA remains the question of whether or not it can resolve its industrial action with cabin crew; the United union has yet to indicate whether it will return to the negotiating table or set new strike dates.

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Media report: Veganism halts climate change - 6 Dec 2011
Media report: Veganism halts climate change - 6 Dec 2011
Media report: Veganism halts climate change.
Following the "Veganism to Save the Planet" gala hosted by the Supreme Master Ching Hai International Association on Thursday, December 1, coinciding with the COP 17 meetings in Durban, South Africa, journalists Jocelyn Newmarch and Sue Blaine authored an article entitled "COP-17: A message from the Master."
Published in the South Africa-based Business Day on December 2, the article begins, "The truth is out: veganism is not just for animal lovers, but also for anyone who cares about the effects climate change will have on the world." The article covered the special gala dinner, in which Supreme Master Ching Hai shared an important video message on the devastating effects of climate change, explaining how eliminating meat consumption is a critical part of the solution, as well as the health benefits offered by a vegan diet, which is also key to a peaceful world in which all beings may live in harmony.
The article stated, "...Her message was echoed by other speakers, including Indian parliamentarian Maneka Gandhi, Kenyan scientist Daniel Maingi — also the executive director of Biowatch and the Animal Welfare Network of Africa — and American Stephan McGuire, who produced the climate change documentary
The 11th Hour."
The authors further commented on other notable highlights of the event, such as the 5-course vegan meal and a presentation from the Honorable Maneka Gandhi, in which she described the benefits of turning away from meat and choosing plant-based alternatives. In speaking of Ms. Gandhi's vision, the article stated that she wished to see a convenience-food restaurant chain based on "mock" meat, while it highlighted the international franchise
of vegan restaurants already supported by Supreme Master Ching Hai, known as Loving Hut.
Meanwhile, Business Day also reported that Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, had announced in a Durban press conference that progress had been made during the first week of COP 17 talks toward options to be presented for global nations' commitment
to a second period of the Kyoto Protocol.
Our appreciation, journalists Jocelyn Newmarch, Sue Blaine, and Business Day, for your efforts to raise awareness on climate change issues and actions for the protection of our planet.
May such informative coverage bring motivation for all to quickly adopt the most sustainable Earth-saving vegan diet.
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A new satellite technology analysis conducted by the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and presented on Nov 30, 2011 revealed that annual global deforestation accelerated significantly between 2000 and 2005 compared to the previous decade, with only 30% of the world's landmass being currently covered
by forests.
Researchers at Purdue University in Indiana, USA report on November 28, 2011, that walnut trees, which are more sensitive to changes in temperature and humidity, may not be able to survive the increasing weather extremes of climate change.
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Category: top names of 1911
If you were naming a baby in 1911, you certainly wouldn't be thinking about the hottest baby name trends or what was cool or hip. Ah, those were the days!
But it is interesting to look back and see what patterns were in evidence then, which names—some of them really surprising—have obeyed the hundred-year-rule and already made a comeback, now sounding completely modern, and what undiscovered treasures might be lurking in the list,. (We do have to bear in mind that some near the bottom of the Top 1000 in 1911 were given to only around twenty babies, whereas on today's list, due to the growth in population, the lowest name on the list belonged to 249 girls.)
The Top 10 on the 1911 boys' list were the expected classics: John, William (the only one still standing in the current Top 10), James, George, Robert, Joseph, Charles, Frank, Edward and Thomas, while there was somewhat more period-related variety for the girls: Mary, Helen, Margaret, Dorothy, Ruth, Anna, Elizabeth, Mildred, Marie and Frances—none of which is in today's Top 10—Elizabeth being the closest at Number 12.
This was still the heyday of flower and gem names, so we're not surprised to see Rose, Ruby, Pearl, Daisy, Flora, Garnet, Iris, Jewel, Opal, Pansy, Lily and Violet all on the list.
Another trend in girls' names was the use of three- and four-letter names ending in a and often beginning with a vowel– most of which (with the exception of Ava, Eva and Ada) have not reemerged and still feel a little musty. These others include:


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Classic Films of a Bygone Era 2Trivia brain teasers have some element of trivia in them, but they are not just pure trivia questions.
Below are five (5) anagrams of film actors/actresses from a classic film of a bygone era. Your job is twofold: firstly, try and name these people and secondly, ascertain the classic movie they all featured in.
Black glare
Hi! Vile given
Wielders halo
An allied, vivid halo
I'm the calm sloth
HintThree memorable quotes:
"I'm very drunk and I intend on getting still drunker before this evening's over."
"No, I don't think I will kiss you, although you need kissing, badly. That's what's wrong with you. You should be kissed and often, and by someone who knows how."
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."
AnswerBlack glare - Clark Gable
Hi! Vile given - Vivien Leigh
Wielders halo - Leslie Howard
An allied, vivid halo - Olivia de Havilland
I'm the calm sloth - Thomas Mitchell
The movie? 1939 Gone With the Wind.
The Cast:
Clark Gable - Rhett Butler
Vivien Leigh - Scarlett O'Hara
Leslie Howard - Ashley Wilkes
Olivia de Havilland - Melanie Hamilton
Thomas Mitchell - Gerald O'Hara
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POSITION: ERP Project Manager, Healthcare vertical
LOCATION: Anywhere, USA
SUMMARY: Coordinates and monitors billable projects from initiation through delivery. Works as a consulting team member on for-fee product creation, enhancement, or integration projects with Infor Healthcare's Professional Services group. Existing knowledge on the aforementioned packages is a huge plus. Serve as liaison between the company and client in order to ensure that all targets and requirements are met. Ensure billable projects are completed on schedule and within budget. Operate with minimal supervision. Typically reports to a Service Director. Usually requires five to ten years of experience in the areas of software implementation, lead/Senior Business Consulting for software implementations. Expertise and work efforts focus on the programming and development of new products or the customization of existing products depending on the client project at hand. Duties usually performed at customer's site. Serves as pre-sales specialist when needed.
70% Coordinates and monitors billable projects from initiation through delivery
· Ensures that billable projects remain on schedule and within budget
· Ensures projects are completed according to agreed upon plan. Maintains project financial and project profitability, to include resource scheduling, revenue forecasting per project, billing reconciliations, expense report and time approval for project work, etc…
· Remains aware of any potential problems and works to mitigate any risks.
· Monitors project deliverables and progress through continuous communication with project members. Assigns / delegates work assignments to project team members
· Prepares project status reports on project progress and problems
· Maintain positive professional demeanor
· Manages approximately two million in revenue annually
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· Assist management with evaluation and development of a project plan
· Keeps appropriate people informed of project progress, complete weekly Project Status Reports, Bi-Weekly dashboard reports, participate in weekly PM meetings and communicate appropriately with Executive Sponsor / department leadership through written and verbal communication
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From "Happy Days" to a Citroen Tv ad, The Fonz is back in a £1m TV ad campaign, created by Euro RSCG London. Brand Republic reports the spot will debut next week also starring other characters from "Happy Days" (but not Ron Howard, aka Richie Cunningham). Of course of the characters are digitally manipulated, as it happend for the Volkswagen Gene Kelly spot.
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It's just in the nick of time, but we couldn't let Women's History Month go by without a salute to some of the adventurous women who have blazed trails, in this case literally reaching new heights. Kudos to the the early lady pilots known then as aviatrixes, many of whom have been hidden too long in the shadow of Amelia Earhart. And of course, Nameberry being Nameberry, our choices were based as much on their interesting names as on their accomplishments.
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Midway through the 2012 season, there was a rumor floating around that Jeff Burton might not return to Richard Childress Racing.
The rumor was shocking for a couple of reasons. One, Burton, 45, has 21 career victories, made the Chase four times for RCR and is one of the leaders and leading spokesmen in the sport.
Drivers like that don't just get replaced.
MORE: Earnhardt excited about new car | Drivers experimenting with new car | Kenseth's new team
The rumor was appalling to Burton. Not because it wasn't true. And not because it put him in a precarious situation.
It was disturbing because it illustrated just how much Burton and his No. 31 team have struggled the past two years.
A year after finishing 20th in points, Burton finished 19th in 2012, with just two top-five and six top-10 finishes.
"When you run the way that we ran, then you should be in the rumors," Burton said. "It's part of being in this sport. … If you've got the ball in your hands and you're not scoring touchdowns, guess what, there's going to be rumors.
"It's not a fun part of it, but it is part of it."
For the record, Burton will return to RCR in 2013. And he's hoping for significant improvement after a second straight disappointing year.
Highlight: That Burton had two of his best races at Daytona was evidence that he can still get it done behind the wheel. He finished fifth in the season-opening Daytona 500, and then finished second to Tony Stewart at Daytona in July for his best finish of the season.
Low point: If the two races at Daytona were the highlights, the races right after Daytona were the low points. After leading 24 laps and finishing fifth in the Daytona 500, Burton blew an engine and finished 33rd the following week at Phoenix. After finishing second at Daytona in July, he finished 21st or worse in his next four races, showing the kind of inconsistency his team fought all year.
Defining moment: Aside from the rumors, there was another embarrassing moment for Burton. In the next-to-last race of the season, he accidentally got into Danica Patrick and wrecked her and had to call her to apologize a few days later. That he was racing Patrick near the rear of the field was one thing, but such incidents typically don't happen to the sport's best drivers.
Outlook for 2013: Burton has to hope that all of RCR gets better in 2013, because the whole organization struggled last year. Kevin Harvick won just won race and was the only RCR driver to make the Chase.
Burton will be reunited with former crew chief Luke Lambert and hopes that helps his team improve enough to get him back to victory lane and back into the Chase—or at least back in the right conversations.
"When you're in your 20th year and people are talking about you being replaced, it is not the position you want to be in," Burton said.
"When you've put in as much as I've put into it and it means as much as it means to me, you want everybody saying, 'That's a driving son of a (gun).' "


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About the Friedmans
Sidney and Pauline Friedman have been long-time supports of Penn State University, particularly the Penn State Wilkes-Barre campus. Since 1985, the Friedmans have engaged in a number of projects to bring advanced technology resources to Penn State students. One of the projects closest to their hearts is the Friedman Observatory at Penn State Wilkes-Barre. By establishing the first observatory in the area, they felt that they could offer students a rare opportunity to expand the way they understood the universe and themselves. They also believed that an observatory would be important for the wider community, offering an exciting educational resource for students from other institutions, children, and adults.
Additionally, with the opening of the Abram Nesbitt, III Academic Commons in 2008 came the opening of the Friedman Art Gallery, a space for students and local artists to display their work or for the showing of private collections within the Academic Commons.
Pauline also served on the campus advisory board and was the recipient of the Phillip Mitchell Alumni Service Award. Though Pauline passed away in December 2008, the generosity and commitment she and Sidney have given to Penn State Wilkes-Barre will continue to be felt and appreciated for years to come.


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UT System News Media Advisory
The meeting of the University of Texas System Board of Regents on Wednesday morning (Feb. 4) in Brownsville may be viewed by reporters v ia a live webcast at http://streaming.utb.edu. This stream will be encoded for RealMedia (free RealOne player available at http://www.Real.com). Because of technical limitations, we ask that only the news media use this link to view the webcast.
The meeting begins at 8 a.m. A presentation on the possibility of bidding on the management contract for Los Alamos National Laboratory will be at approximately 10 a.m.
After the meeting, UT System officials will be available to answer questions from the news media about the Los Alamos issue by telephone conference call. This media availability will begin at Noon CST in the Student Union, 80 Fort Brown, on the campus of the University of Texas at Brownsville.
Out-of-town reporters may participate in the media availability via an AT&T conference call. Reporters should contact Paula Bales at (512) 499-4363 by 11:00 a.m. CST on Wednesday to receive the toll-free telephone number and access code. Then reporters should dial in to the conference call by 11:55 a.m. We don't want to start without you.


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Tired of stumbling over a messy jumble of hats, gloves, toys and sports equipment in your entryway? This handy bench not only provides a perfect perch while you take off your boots, it also includes wicker baskets for stowing mudroom clutter. Made from solid pine with an antiqued buttermilk finish and woven rush seats. Bench arrives fully assembled, including baskets — ready to help you reclaim your mudroom!
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Interesting news for IT integrators this morning out of IMS Research, now part of IHS Inc., the video surveillance industry's leading analyst firm. According to Niall Jenkins, Manager, Video Surveillance & Security Services Research, 45% of surveyed North American companies reported that their budgets for security-related spend had increased in 2012.
In the survey of almost 200 representatives from end users of physical security equipment across North America, 44 percent also said that their annual budget exceeded $100,000. Another 20 percent exceeded $500,000 a year.
The survey, completed primarily at the end user management level, solidifies trends seen in many IHS studies over the last 12 months. "We've been interviewing physical security equipment manufacturers since 2003, and while growth has slowed in recent years, they are still seeing growth across the different physical security markets" remarked Jenkins.
This trend illustrates what I've written about now for the past two years -- surveillance is a great way to extend your line card and increase revenue. While other technology segments might be drying up, the security industry is going strong. If you missed out on 2012 budget, it's not too late to get involved in 2013. Get your butt moving!


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Summer is the time of year to play water games so for your next kids party game, play Water bomb toss. It's easy and fun to play, so if you have a pool, get the kids laughing as they stay cool!
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Divide the players into two teams.
Assign each team to one side of the pool and run a rope across the middle to define the two sides.
Divide the pool toys evenly between the two teams.
Toss each team's toys onto their side of the pool. These are the "bombs" for each team to toss onto their opponent's side.
Each team has a set time to try and toss all their bombs onto the other side of the pool and "blow up" their opponents.
When the time is up, the team with the least amount of bombs on their side wins the game.
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A WINCHESTER festival is coming back with a bang next year.
The second Worthys Festival was launched in Kings Worthy last week, with around 40 residents from the Worthys villages raising a glass to celebrate.
It follows the festival's successful debut in September 2011 with Kings Worthy, Headbourne Worthy and Abbots Worthy combining to put on nine days of family fun.
The launch party was held at The Worthies Sports & Social Club, Loader Closer, on Wednesday, November 21.
Ward councillor and chairman of the steering committee Jane Rutter said the villages were very enthusiastic about the festival.
She said: "The festival programme is packed with activities to attract people of all ages and walks of life. I would like to thank our sponsors and our volunteers for all the effort that has already gone into the 2013 event."
The event has secured support from Southern Electric (SSE), who will sponsor the marquee, and drinks company Bacardi Brown-Forman, which sponsors the festival-concluding fireworks display.
Craig Gilroy, SSE head of operation, said: "We're a company with strong local connections in the communities where our staff live and work, and so we're delighted to be able to contribute to such a major event in the local social calendar."
The steering group is appealing for volunteers of all ages to help organise the festival, which will feature new attractions such as a film festival, gardener's question time and a beer festival.
Old favourites like 'Worthys Got Talent' and the local band music festival also return.


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New Silver Tungsten Big Buck Down Ring
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The design is sleek and superb. Perfect for any outfit. This ring will never lose it's shine, will never fade and is scratch-free.
Did you know that Tungsten Carbide is the most scratch resistant metal known to man? Fitting enough for what it has to endure in the hands of a ISIS hunters and ISIS hunter supporters. Tungsten rings are quick and easy to remove from your finger in case of medical emergency, easier than gold.
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Designer Tungsten Carbide rings can be more than just a fashion statement. It can serve a higher purpose, an element in a fulfilling duty to protect your loved ones and the people you care for. These special rings can be a profound symbol of trust, of unity and an icon of protection.
Remember the San Bernardino terrorist attack? That mass shooting was more real to me than any other mass shooting that has happened in California, or anywhere in the US for that matter. The location was far too close for comfort- it was where I, my lovely wife and daughter lived close nearby. The moment the news flashed in our TV, I was in a daze, overwhelmed with a feeling of dread and fear for our lives. The shooting in itself wasn't resolved quickly- the terrorists Tashfeen Malik and Syed Farook were able to move before they were tracked down by the police.
What if the terrorists started entering homes and shooting the people inside? What if the homemade bombs went off, and hurt the surrounding area? Imagine the thoughts running into my head as I watched the story unfold. As a father and a responsible citizen, I wanted to take an active role in defending my country and family not only from terrorism, but from all sorts of violence. There actually wasn't anything I could do much during that incident, primarily because I wasn't that familiar with self-defense techniques and didn't own a CCW (conceal carry weapon) then. Like many others, I could only hope and pray that no harm will befall my loved ones, and that the law would be swift and decisive in taking down the perpetrators.
I, Hien Quoc wasn't about to take all of these mass shootings lying down. I hate feeling helpless and leaving things to chance, so I started learning all I could about weapons I can use to defend myself with. I think that the current gun control laws hamper the people instead of protecting them, because I believe that one way we can deter an attack is to not appear helpless as sheep. Would a potential suspect still carry out terrorism if they knew that there are armed policemen and citizens nearby? I don't think so. I believe they will pause for a moment, think twice about doing their senseless acts of violence, and most likely abandon it altogether. A united front of community can withstand such an attack and even successfully stop it before the terrorist's plan can come to fruition.
So then the idea of selling Designer Tungsten Carbide rings came to mind one day as I was thinking of how to help the community against such a ruthless act. How do you unite a group of people with similar interests in serving people who need them the most? How can you identify such a group just by looking at them?
Instead of masks, flags, markings or anything else that would identify certain individuals in a group, why not rings? More importantly, why not use customizable rings that are scratch-proof and almost indestructible? My mind started looking for alternatives from which to draw upon. I did some research, talked with colleagues and visited metal shops to find the answer I was looking for. The answer it seemed, was tungsten carbide.
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We've been talking about making our own jam for the past few days at my house, so it's only fitting we stocked up on Ball jars today on National Can-it-Forward Day. Check out the web site for recipes and information on how to be your own preserver. What kind of foods are folks out there canning?
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DISCOVERY BAY — The town has reached a settlement with its former wastewater collections operator over a 2008 malfunction that spewed 94,000 gallons of raw sewage into an upscale neighborhood's lake.
Discovery Bay's Community Services District will receive $230,534.69 from an escrow account established by the town and SouthWest Water, along with $35,000 from the water company, according to the Feb. 13 agreement.
That money covers the tab for the major spill at the Lakeshore subdivision, which included $231,000 in fines last May and $10,000 for three others in 2008 that the town paid to the state's regional water quality control board.
The town sued SouthWest in Contra Costa Superior Court last June, saying the company breached its contract by not paying the state penalties. SouthWest filed a cross-complaint against the town a month later.
"We're pleased that the lawsuit was settled and the town was made whole for the sewer spill," said Rick Howard, the district's general manager.
A SouthWest spokesman said Friday that the company does not comment on lawsuits or settlements.
The spill was caused by pumps failing to turn back on after the power went out when a bird landed on a nearby power line, forcing sewage to back up overnight. Lake fountains were left on a week after the spill, leading to additional concerns about possible illness and the spread of contamination.
After the spill, money to pay the fines — some of which Discovery Bay paid to SouthWest — was placed in an escrow account. But as the issue dragged on for years because of state staffing cuts, SouthWest's escrow company would not open the account.
After months of probing officials and district employees on the situation, district directors concluded SouthWest's negligence and poor operating procedures were to blame for the spill.
SouthWest parted ways with the town in late 2008, requesting the contract be rescinded before it expired. Discovery Bay has had Veolia Water as its water operator since.
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Breast Cancer
Shadowing on breast ultrasound
I developed a cyst in my left breast recently that was seen on breast u/s but not on my mammogram. ( the mammogram report said I had dense breasts ). But also seen on the breast u/s was an area of shadowing that made my dr. suspicious. He rescanned me about 10 days later and the cyst was gone but the area of shadowing persists. He wanted me to come back in a month and have another u/s and if the shadowing persists, then do a biopsy then. His theory being if it was associated with the cyst, it would go away. I asked him if he thought this could be a malignancy and he said he didn`t know. I am not comfortable waiting a month and asked if he would consider doing the bx sooner. His nurse told me no - they would not do it any sooner and that a month is not going to make any difference if it is a malignancy. I have made an appt with another surgeon for a 2nd opinion. My question is: 1. what causes shadowing 2. if it truly is associated with the cyst, shouldn`t it be gone also since the cyst is gone. On the u/s screen, the area of shadowing looked like a large inverted V.I know you cannot make a diagnosis,just wanted to know ,in your experience, what shadowing means. Thanks for your help.
Cysts are benign fluid-filled structures in the breast. They do not cause shadowing on ultrasound. Marginal shadowing - black shadows off both edges of a mass - is also a benign finding (can be seen with benign fibroadenomas). Posterior shadowing - black shadows off the middle of a mass - is concerning for cancer. I would seek a second opinion. If the ultrasound is being done correctly, then you need a biopsy. It is true that waiting a month won't affect your health, even if you have cancer. The wait is mentally difficult, however.
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Grinded out 6x1k while hungover this morning. I think most of the city of Toronto is hungover after the hockey game last night. It was nice having the whole track to myself. I'm not sure whether longer runs or faster runs are more unpleasant when your body really doesn't want to run.
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Ouch - fast 1K intervals are tough, but nowhere near as painful as that collapse last night. As a Rangers fan, I was monitoring that game closely and was absolutely shocked to see the B's pull it out.
They didn't really show any post-game pictures of the street party in Toronto here in New Hampshire - did things get out of control a la Vancouver after the cup finals a few years back?
Ouch - fast 1K intervals are tough, but nowhere near as painful as that collapse last night. As a Rangers fan, I was monitoring that game closely and was absolutely shocked to see the B's pull it out.
They didn't really show any post-game pictures of the street party in Toronto here in New Hampshire - did things get out of control a la Vancouver after the cup finals a few years back?
pretty quiet in toronto today...city is in a somber mood. probably would have been different if we were playing for the cup instead of the second round tho...but torontonians are generally more aloof to begin with anyway.
As a Vancouver fan, I'm pretty sad that Boston won. I wish both teams could have lost.
i've got time for one more tempo workout next tuesday(5/21) before my half on the 26th. with only 5 days before the race itself, the benefits of running HMP wouldnt be fitness-related. just mental i suppose. would it be better to do a 4-5 mile faster-than-HMP tempo to make the effort of HMP seem easier? or maybe a progression run? something like starting at MP+30 and dropping 10 sec/mi down to 10k pace? for me this would go from 6:40 to 5:20 and would take 9 miles, of which only a few would be very tough.
i could also do intervals at HMP such as 4x2mi.
or there's the standard 6-7 miler at HMP. keep in mind that i've done 2 tempos recently, 5 at HMP (-5 sec/mi) and 6.2 at HMP.
Unireed, I had kind of the same dilemma, but decided that I'm not that concerned about my HM time so I'm just training through it. I've got a half marathon on Sunday, but ran a 20 minute faster than HM tempo this morning at the end of a 10 miler. Then did weights. I'll do a mini 2 day taper now, and will race my ass off on Sunday, but am not expecting much.
For all of you that do weights, quick question. Do you do your weights on your hard days or easy days? I've heard arguments for both. I did a quick set of weights this morning after a moderately hard run and was surprised that they felt OK. I like the idea of keeping my easy days easy, so this is appealing to me.
I've got a half marathon on Sunday, but ran a 20 minute faster than HM tempo this morning at the end of a 10 miler.
Haha! I read this as saying that your tempo pace was 20 minute per mile faster than your HM pace. I was going to tell you that you're either running your HM's way too slow or your tempo pace is supersonic.
For all of you that do weights, quick question. Do you do your weights on your hard days or easy days? I've heard arguments for both. I did a quick set of weights this morning after a moderately hard run and was surprised that they felt OK. I like the idea of keeping my easy days easy, so this is appealing to me.
the only time that I take notice is when I have a long run coming up...that's when I skip a workout at the gym...otherwise, I work out at lunch then run after work...regardless of workout (upper vs lower) and run type.
heart rate guys and gals...for the past few days, my HR jumps up to 90+% in the first 500 meters regardless of how slow I'm going...I don't think there's anything wrong with my monitor.
I stop and walk then everything becomes normal. Does this happen to you?
thanks much frank2000. good to know it's not just me.
heart rate guys and gals...for the past few days, my HR jumps up to 90+% in the first 500 meters regardless of how slow I'm going...I don't think there's anything wrong with my monitor.
I stop and walk then everything becomes normal. Does this happen to you?
+1 to frank's thoughts. I've seen it match cadence and that's usually a combination of it being slightly loose (so it repeated cycles of contact/no contact according to cadence)... AND dry skin with dry belt contacts.
I train and race HR almost exclusively... sometimes it goes for stretches without doing this, then it will mess up (just like yours) for days in a row. When I care, I can always fix it... The MOST likely quick fix is salty water (or spit) put heavily on the contacts. There are many other thoughts I've collected on this subject on my HR monitor Issues page... You could see if any of the others apply to you.
My HR is very often in the range of 175-185 when I run in a t-shirt which was washed without using a conditioner, that is if the stuff has that static thing. It goes away in a mile or two when I start sweating :-).
i generally ignore my HR data for the first few minutes/first mile. even though i always get it wet first, it takes a bit to get smooth data.
if you are just jogging and see that your HR is super high when you know it shouldnt be, you should really consider forgetting about your HRM altogether. if your HRM said zero, would you start sprinting to get it higher? you can't be too dependent on these things like gps watches and HRMs. let your body tell you your effort. i understand that it serves a purpose for some training, but that doesnt mean you need to wear it on every run.
56 this week for me on the first week of a 3 week taper. Ran a 10k yesterday in 37'22", PR and a good confidence boost after a somewhat mediocre marathon training cycle...
thanks for the HR info folks. the sweat/saliva thing definitely works.
this week in running:
M - weights + 10miles(16km) @ 7:25/mi(4:36/km) HRR 64%
T - weights + 2.5km warmup then 2 hours basketball (last hard practice) before tourney in minnesota
W - could not move at all
TH - 10.5m(17km) @ 7:55(4:55) 80%
F - weights + 15.25m(24.5km) @ 7:18(4:32) with 4miles@6:42 81%
Sa - Rest
Su - 11.5m(18.5km) @ 7:21(4:34) 65%
total: 48.75 miles
Another pretty good week for me. 5 weeks out from Grandma's and the only thing stopping me now is the weather
Monday - 7 recovery
Monday PM - 4 recovery
Tuesday - 11 with 5 at MP
Wednesday - 14 at GA
Wednesday PM - 6 easy
Thursday - 11 GA
Friday - 6 recovery
Saturday - 11 progression - 9 to 6:05 pace
Sunday - 20 GA
total - 90 miles
Great week dkggpeters, Swampangel, m9n!
daddyo - congrats on the PR! Very nice...
0 miles for the second week. Next week - back to the salt mine :-).
nice PR daddyo.
60 miles this week, all easy and recovery pace. calf muscles still sore but getting better. local HM next sunday.
swampangel.....is this your first cycle with doubles? tough wednesday/thursday!
swampangel.....is this your first cycle with doubles? tough wednesday/thursday!
Oh, for some reason I think that it's not his first one with doubles
Carlbrad, this is my second cycle of using doubles. I broke 3 hours using them last summer, so now I am a firm believer. Those Wednesday morning MLR at 5:00 am are challenging!
daddy0 -- Congrats on the 10K PR. You are way faster than me. Your race seems to indicate that your marathon training is going well.
Pretty uneventful week for me. It was my last marathon recovery week. 32 miles of easy running, 2 weightlifting sessions, and a pilates class. Things start to spice up a bit this coming week as I have an interval workout and a 10K on Saturday that I'm running as workout (I've done zero speed or tempo work since the marathon on April 27).
I'm doing a series of 10Ks and 5Ks over the next six weeks or so along with some interval, strength, and tempos to work on improving my speed before I start my Chicago buildup. I've done only one 10K and one 5K in my life, so I'm excited to do a couple of each in the coming weeks. In fact, I really haven't raced all that much since I started running "seriously" about three years ago, and I didn't run track or cross-country when I was growing up, so I really need some race experience. Hopefully that type of experience will help me control my emotions and pace better early in marathons in the future. We'll see.
I hope everybody is doing well.
Nice weeks everyone. I'm on the lower end for mileage around here, this is about as high as I go...
M: 5@8:20, weights
T:15 w/13@6:40
W: 6@8:30, weights
Tr: 10 w/5 x 1 @ 5:50, 5:47, 5;43, 5:40, 5:40 on 1/2-3/4@7:30 recovery.
S: 5@8:30, weights
Sn: 20.4 @ 7:19
71.7 total
Mo - 5mi
Tu - 7mi w/ 8x1000 (3:35-3:40)
We - 13mi @ 7:25/mi
Th -
Fr - 8mi
Sa - 13mi w/ 2x1600, 2x3200 @ 6:25/mi
Su - 15mi @ 6:54/mi (GMP)
4thirtyamguy, do you just go out and lay down a 1:26 half often? That's ridiculously impressive for someone with a 1:23 PR.
4thirtyamguy, do you just go out and lay down a 1:26 half often? That's ridiculously impressive for someone with a 1:23 PR.
No. For accuracy though, It was on a treadmill @ 1% incline, as were my thursday mile repeats. On tuesday I just got overambitious, I was planning to do the miles at GMP. The treadmill probably makes it less impressive. Also, 6:40 for a half is 1:27:23. Everything else was on sidewalk.
I agree with RunMaple. " It's Tuesday morning, I think I'll run a 1:26 half! " Very impressive.
Set myself up to fall on the long run today and boy did i. Felt off all day and was debating pushing it back a day but went out anyways. Never had a good sense of place and bailed after 13. At least i am pretty sure i didn't hurt myself.
First Marathon done. Sub 3, nope. Not close really. 3:21. I shouldn't be surprised. The race started at over 65 degrees and by halfway it was well over 70, fairly humid, and bright sun. There was a good wind too that did help cool some but added to the effort. I should have changed my pace strategy but of course, I didn't. Did the first half with ease and no sign of weakness in just over 90 min. I was like a warm up jog. But by mile 16 the 3 hour pace group was pulling slightly ahead. By 30k I had dropped a minute or so back and continued to slow from there. I figured I could hold sub 8 minute pace and roll in under 3:10 but my body thought otherwise and made me walk at 24. I think I was starting to get some heat illness because I felt dizzy and couldn't walk straight for a few seconds. So I jogged and walked in the last 2 miles avoiding what could have been a very bad ending.
But as it was my longest run ever by 6 miles and dealing with that heat on a long run it was a good learning experience. I have run in 100 plus temps but never hard for 3 hours. I feel like I followed all the tips you guys gave tapering, running a conservative first half, hydrating constantly, taking in Gu, etc. but it just wasn't my day. Now for a week off and then dive into sub 80 half training for this fall.
4thirtyamguy - 71 miles is not on a low end, that's a very decent mileage :-).
there is no try - don't worry about it, it's an experience, take a rest for a week or two and continue, you will get there.
There is No Try - solid effort considering the warmish conditions and this being your first marathon. Definitely sounds like a couple of races I had on my way to sub 3; although I had more epic blow-ups! Based on this run and your HM time you are probably only a cycle or two from 2:59:59.
I flew in the night before and had a few beers with my brother and cousin. Didn't do much for carbo loading either - just fish and chips. I definitely wasn't giving this the Boston Marathon treatment. Woke up a couple hours before the start, had a bagel and ran the half mile from my brother's house to the start. Definitely the most relaxed I've been before a race.
I managed to get right to the front of the crowd before the race started, turned on my GPS and CRAP! The battery was dead! It must have turned on in my luggage. Also, all the signs were in kilometers, and I had no idea what the kilometer splits were for a 1:25 half. I calculated 4:00 per k would do it. I was just hoping they had clocks on course.
The MC did a great tribute to Boston before the start, then we were off! I settled in nicely somewhere in the top 30 and got comfortable. At one point a guy went by me and I asked him what our pace was. He said 3:50, and he was hoping to average 3:55. Perfect. I'd just follow this guy for as long as I could. The problem was, he dropped me on the first hill. Not good. I ended up running on my own for a while, which I hate doing in the wind. One guy caught me and I latched on for a while, but he obliterated me on a hill- probably put 15 seconds on me on a 1 minute hill. Another guy caught me a while later and I stuck with him for a bit and he dropped me on a hill too! This was starting to suck and all the real hills were still ahead.
With about six miles left, a third guy caught me, ran beside me for a while, then started fading. Then we hit the first big hill and I passed someone who had been a couple hundred yards in front of me for most of the race, and picked off someone else right near the top. Downhill for a bit, then a hill starts with 2.5 miles left and climbs gradually for about 2 miles up to a downhill finish.
At the start of the hill, I realize I've got about 100 yards on the guy behind me and I'm about 200 yards behind the guy in front of me and maybe 400 yards behind the guy in front of him. The 3:55 guy was nowhere in sight so I figure I was nowhere near my goal. And there were no clocks on course so I had zero idea how I was doing. I decided to just maintain position and slog into the finish. Then I remembered the theme I've heard so many times on this thread: "choose the pain". I was still feeling OK, and there was just over two miles left so I decided to start my kick early to see how much I could make it hurt.
I really wish I had splits for those last two miles because I reeled in the 200 yard guy in less than a mile, and even set my sights on the 400 yard guy. When we started the last half mile downhill, I think he was about 150 years in front of me and I was flying. I was sure I was going to catch him, then we merged with the 10k runners and I lost him. I think I lost my mind in that crowd a bit because I accelerated again and was absolutely flying through them screaming like a mad man. I crossed the finish line and hit the ground for the first time in my running career. I had no idea how I'd done, but figure I must have sucked since my finishing kick was way too brutal - I shouldn't have had so much in the tank if I'd been on goal page.
I waited around for my brother, then we went back to his place. The results were already on the race web site. 1:23:20. That's a 5:00 PR from last fall and I think I fell in love with this distance.
Frank - Congratulations on Awesome results! You are really fast! Enjoyed the race report. One can only wonder what the difference would have been if you had the watch... Worse? better? ... I wouldn't change a thing given that result!
Frank - Nice report and good race! A five minute PR in the half is impressive.... the no watch thing would have drove me crazy sounds like it might have actually helped you? Did the race site give you any splits?
I ran 79.5 mile last week including pacing the 3:35 group at a very small marathon... 197 finishers for the full. This was my first pacing experience and I really enjoyed it. Was definitely a good workout and I'm feeling almost as beat up today than the day after Boston.
Pacing another marathon on June 9th... the 3:15 group and I am actually pretty worried about it... the course is hilly and if it is as hot as it was yesterday I am in trouble!
Thereisnotry, the only relatively warmer temps can make a huge difference. If it was 50 you probably would have had a very different race. You've got the speed to get way faster after another cycle or two, if you want. Frank, great read. Reminds me a lot of my recent half.
Frank - Congratulations on Awesome results! You are really fast! Enjoyed the race report. One can only wonder what the difference would have been if you had the watch... Worse? better? ... I wouldn't change a thing given that result!
Thanks Mark. I don't think I would have gone any faster with the watch. If anything I might have gone slower if I knew I was on pace for 1:24:xx. It was definitely way more enjoyable to run without the watch. It was much more of a "race" for me. Usually I just race the clock and don't pay much attention to what's going on around me. This time I was very much racing the runners around me.
Frank -- Congrats on the huge PR. That is a great time, particularly on such a hilly course. Well done. Maybe I'll try your (unintentional) no watch strategy in my 10K this weekend.
Thereisnotry -- Congrats on finishing your first marathon. Sounds like it was tough conditions. You definitely have the stuff to get sub-3. In fact, my first marathon was right around your time (and with better conditions), so you can definitely get to sub-3.
colefund -- Nice work on pacing. I don't know how folks who pace marathons do it. If I ever paced a race, everybody would be pissed at me because we would have gone out too fast and dragged in at the end.


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A friend's son wants to be a dairy farmer when he grows up. His sister wants to be a large-animal veterinarian — and own a dairy farm. These hard-working teens are determined to buck the odds and follow a path less-traveled than their classmates, despite laughter from peers whenever these kids declare their plans in public.
Yet, with the right encouragement, support and opportunities, I'm confident these two will be next-generation agriculturists if that's what they ultimately decide to do. And their chosen industry and community will be better for it.
But as a whole, we've not done a great job of recruiting new people to our industry. I'd say things have improved significantly since I was in high school and my contemporaries and I were strongly encouraged to stay as far away from ag as possible. (Obviously, I didn't listen, but a lot of others did.)
However, attitudes haven't changed quite enough if we're going to keep ag a dynamic, vibrant career opportunity.
A conference in Wausau, Wis. this week highlighted the need to bring qualified workers into the state's $59 billion ag industry.
A report in the Wausau Daily Herald noted that leaders were told that they need to kill the negative image that's keeping young people from entering the field.
"During a panel discussion Wednesday at a conference about economic development in rural Wisconsin, educators, business leaders and economists highlighted a grim reality: Wisconsin's top industry is struggling and will continue to struggle to find qualified workers.
Much of that concern stems from young people's misperceptions that jobs in agriculture, including food processing, are all low-paying, require no education and equate to long hours on a farm.
The panelists said that couldn't be further from the truth," according to the report.
"The jobs are there," said Lori Weyers, president of Northcentral Technical College in Wausau and a proponent for drawing students into agriculture work. "We can't get the people interested in the careers."
What a disheartening statement, especially in light of the country's stubborn unemployment rate and a still-sputtering economy. We have the perfect chance to highlight the many benefits that can be found working in agriculture, yet the message hasn't been received. Or maybe it hasn't been sent.
"There are all kinds of opportunities in agriculture; you just have to show kids they exist," says Mark MacPhail, agriculture director for McCain Foods, an international company that makes french fries and other potato products.
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Four Seasons Hotel Seattle features a pool terrace with an outdoor fireplace, Zen-inspired landscaping, and spectacular views of Elliott Bay, the ferries, Bainbridge Island, and the Olympic Mountains beyond. The infinity-edge pool appears to flow directly into the bay. Open 24 hours a day, the state-of-the-art health club includes a spa tub, eucalyptus steam room, weight equipment, and cardio machines with TVs/entertainment centers.
The Spa at Four Seasons has 8 treatment rooms, including a couple's room with private soaking tub and rain shower. Signature treatments include Emerald Rain and Deep Forest Bliss. Offering manicures and pedicures, body treatments, massages, facials and aromatherapy treatments, The Spa at Four Seasons is the place to be for rest and relaxation. The hotel provides complimentary Town Car transportation within a 2-mile (3.2-kilometer) radius, which includes cruise-ship-terminal drop-off and waterfront attractions.
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CLINTON — The East Feliciana Parish School Board deferred action Tuesday on a move to deny bonuses to teachers no longer employed in the parish but who would be qualified for the extra pay for their performance in a special program last school year.
The board voted 8-4 to send the matter back to its Salary Committee for more study after hearing from two teachers affected by the proposal.
Superintendent Henderson Lewis wanted to pay bonuses only to eligible teachers who returned for the 2012-13 school year. Teachers who resigned or accepted a teaching job outside the parish would not be eligible.
The bonuses, a minimum of $2,000, are awarded to teachers participating in a teacher advancement program designed to reward teachers who receive good evaluations and whose students show performance gains.
The program's formal name is TAP: The System for Teacher and Student Advancement, a school reform developed by the Milken Family Foundation and now operated by a nonprofit group, the National Institute for Excellence in Teaching. Funds for the bonuses come from several grants.
Katie Andrews said she was a TAP mentor teacher last year at East Feliciana Middle School and was promised a bonus, with no mention of having to return this year.
Andrews said she had been recruited by other school systems because of her students' performance gains but turned them down until she was asked to teach at THRIVE Academy in Baton Rouge.
The academy is an inner-city boarding school that Andrews said honors a former student of hers at Jackson Elementary who was stabbed to death defending her younger sister from an attacker in 2011.
"I can't help but feel a bit betrayed," Andrews told the board.
Maya Bennett, a former master teacher at Jackson Elementary, said she and Andrews earned the bonuses through "our blood, sweat and tears," and asked the board to "do the right thing."
Bennett is selling real estate now, but said she is looking into returning to the school next semester.
She said she expected a bonus of $2,000 to $2,500, while Andrews said hers may have been higher than that.
Lewis, who joined the system in June, said he followed the board's established procedures for awarding extra pay, such as periodic salary supplements from accumulated, dedicated taxes, which state that employees who leave the system are not eligible for the money.
He said any principal or representative of the state Education Department who said the bonuses would be paid to teachers who leave did not have the authority to make such a statement.
Lewis said he also views the extra money as an incentive for long-term commitments to the parish, adding that 40 teachers at the two participating schools were eligible but left the system.
In a later discussion, Lewis said East Feliciana Parish sent the teachers through special training, "and now they're TAP experts in other systems."
The board initially approved the plan on a voice vote before board President Michael Bradford realized Andrews wanted to speak.
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Q: I want to convert our son's nursery into a better room for a 2-year-old so he will sleep in it. Right now "Jaiden" sleeps in our bed and I'm tired of this. My wife is OK with it, because he'll cry until we bring him into our bed, but I don't think it's a good idea. Where should we start?
A: Wow, Justin, you are dealing with two issues here! One is redecorating the nursery, and the other, the more serious issue of getting your little boy to sleep in his own room. Or, getting your wife to back you up!
Sleeping with small children, particularly babies, is dangerous because your child could suffocate in your blankets or you could roll onto him. Kids in their own room allow better sleep for everyone.
Redecorating the nursery is an opportunity for changing behaviors, including your wife's. The update could make Jaiden more interested in his own room, especially if he gets to help make some of the decisions.
First of all, talk with your wife. You both will have to be loving but firm, and consistent! Kids need boundaries, and so do parents. And that will free up your bed for just you and your wife.
After all that, redecorating the nursery is easy. Is Jaiden still in a crib and trying to climb out? He may be ready for a "big boy" bed, but some kids aren't until they're 3 or so. Get a bed that's low to the ground with side rails. It's also OK to just redecorate and keep the crib until he's older. Don't rush this step or your whole plan may backfire.
Pick out two or three wall colors you like, and let Jaiden choose his favorite. Accessorize with things he likes — dinosaurs, cars or whatever. Bedspreads, drapes and easily changed accessories will let his room grow with him as interests change.
Allow for storage with easy-to-use baskets for toys, a comfortable reading chair and plenty of open floor space.
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``I got her approval,'' Chase said with a more energetic grin than an 86-year-old should have at 11 p.m. after a long day.
Anyone who listened to Friday's 5-2 Fort Wayne win over Evansville approved as Chase shared the booth with regular color man Robbie Irons and America's voice of hockey Mike Emrick from NBC. Though Chase has been defining hockey radio broadcasts for 60 years and Emrick on the television side for 40, this was the first game they described together.
When the Lafontaine-native Emrick started his career as a teenager, he'd sit in a Memorial Coliseum corner talking into a tape recorder. A few years later he shared some of his recordings with Chase at WOWO, and that relationship grew into a gift for the sport they love. Emrick has taken Chase's passion and dedication to the world's stage and then refined it to his own level of grace and precision.
No mentor could be more approving, no student more respectful. Putting them together for one game, they exceeded even a perfectionist's expectations. The trio had fun calling the game, and that helped make sure everyone listening did, too, even a good part of the 7,707 Memorial Coliseum fans who had radios or smartphones.
``That was the objective,'' Emrick said. ``Sometimes when you have the idea, `We're just going to have fun,' then all of a sudden something happens and you all of a sudden forget that. Fortunately, I don't think that happened tonight. We're pleased if people had a good time.''
How could they help it? That was guaranteed by the preparation Emrick and Chase built for 2 1/2 hours at the morning skate. As Emrick quizzed every stick boy and player, they all looked like they were 10 years old and meeting Santa Claus.
``It was a big thrill for a lot of guys,'' Komets coach Al Sims said. ``Even some of the guys from the American League had to come to Fort Wayne to meet Mike Emrick. It was a pretty neat thing.''
And though forgetting about the broadcasters as soon as the opening faceoff fell to the ice, the Komets were determined to win maybe a little more than usual. It's the only time they'll ever have the world's best announcer call a game they were playing in, after all. Emrick has called Olympics, National Hockey League All-Star Games, World Cups, Stanley Cup Finals and now a Komets game. To the players, this time the broadcaster added to the prestige of the event and raised their level.
``Any time Mike Emrick is broadcasting your game, you want to make a good impression,'' forward Kaleigh Schrock said. ``He knew more about me than I knew about myself. To have him with Chaser, that was a real honor to play in that game.''
The broadcast itself wasn't perfect. It was better than that. Squeezing into the small home radio booth that was built for two people, the trio eventually forgot they were trying to fit in and around each other and just called the game. Without consciously realizing it, they did what they do better than anyone. The laughs flowed with the game.
At one point, Emrick remarked that it has been at least 10 years since he called a game on radio, which is much different than describing the action on television.
``You have a lot of right-wing boards and left boards and near corner and far corner that you don't say on television,'' he said. ``If you get paid by the word, and I hope Bob does, you earn double the money in radio.''
There were also some classic Emrick calls. Any rust from the NHL lockout was scraped away like a goaltender scratching up his crease before the national anthem or a first-period facewash in the corner.
``Some discouraging words there from Henley in the face of Aaron Gens.''
A late second-period post-whistle group shoving match was described ``A little extra from Rizk and a crowd will gather at the horn!''
Adding Emrick's descriptions to Chase's enthusiasm and Irons' explanations was about as perfect as a minor league game could hope to be called. They less they tried, the better the game became to anyone listening, and it was a pretty good game to see anyway as the Komets won their fifth in row.
``It's another highlight for the year 2012,'' said Chase, who recently received the Lester Patrick Award for service to hockey in the Untied States. ``I don't know what goes on next. I hope like hell Santa Claus remembers me. Like I said in my wrap, in my fondest dreams I never realized this could happen. I never even dreamt of it happening until now.''
Best of all? It sounded like a dream, too, one that every listener will always remember.
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As Dhamma Wheel grows, and in light of the diversity of members and the inevitable differences that can crop up from time to time, Dhamma Wheel may wish to have a designated ombudsman who watches out for member interests. Theoretically, all mods and admins would fullfill this function, but as a matter of practicality, other considerations might be too distracting at times to do justice to this important function. Large, quality publications have found it very effective to designate one editor as the reader ombudsman, and in my opinion, that concept translates well to a quality Internet discussion board such as Dhamma Wheel. Particularly since this board is predicated on the value of member posts.
The ombudsman could be part of the mod/admin team, but also could have a degree of independence. This individual could be a specialist in helping members navigate TOS more effectively, helping members understand decisions that are made, resolving disputes, being the lightning rod for criticism, stepping in when things get hot and heavy, stuff like that. The ombudsman would be the members' advocate.
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So, who won the title again? Every time I turn on ESPN, they're talking about the Lakers. I could of sworn I heard somewhere that they lost.
[edit] Wow, the Pacers odds to win next year are 6-to-8! A $14 return on $8 isn't much to get excited about. Vegas must know already know we're getting TMac, or something.
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I really, really hate to say this, but perhaps it is we Pacers fans that will never learn. Hopefully, Donnie and Larry will make some big time deals and make it obvious ... undeniably so.
They'll never learn...
Pretty funny.
I don't know as the Pistons will have a dynasty or not but for my money the existing champion, if they don't blow up the team, should pretty much be the favorite going in.
The Pistons dynasty will begin in about 3 years if Darko lives up to his billing. That's when life for the rest of the league could get scary.
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