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Big Thunder Mountain is the centrepiece attraction of Frontierland in Disneyland Paris. It is without doubt one of the most thrilling rides in the park and is a perfect example of what makes the Disney theme parks so enjoyable - it is well designed and brilliantly presented.
===The Story===
The ride is derived from the fictional story of Henry Ravenswood, as is the rest of Frontierland. Henry Ravenswood created the Thunder Mesa Mining Company, which provides much of the theme for this particular land and he created the mining cars and track to assist mining on the mountain. Since the mountain is located in the middle of the Rivers of the Far West, a track was required to reach it from the mainland - hence Big Thunder Mountain.
I love that the whole of this area has a story, because it really gives meaning to the term theme park, but it is also what makes it Disney. The fact that the ride has a story (regardless of whether or not it is a fictional one) makes it more enjoyable and engaging, because it helps you to escape into a different world, which is indeed the whole point of these things.
===The Ride===
The fact that this is one of the most popular rides in the park is unquestionable and for good reason. You start the ride on the mainland in the station depot and the tracks take you under the water and around the mountain at jaw dropping speeds. The ride goes both inside and outside, plunging you into complete darkness and then offering you quite splendid views of the rest of the park. Something I particularly like about the ride is the fact that it offers great thrills at the same time as you being able to really enjoy it. It goes fast, very fast, and there are plenty of twists, turns and sharp drops. But it isn't 'keep your eyes closed' scary, so you can enjoy the views and also appreciate the various special effects and design of the ride, which include a cave full of stalagmites and stalactites and a brief dip into the water (don't worry though, you won't get wet).
As is the case with all of the rides at Disneyland Paris, a great deal of thought has been given to the queuing system as well, to make sure that you feel the excitement right from the get go. You queue through a mining depot and there are lots of things to enjoy and read as you're going around to pass the time a little quicker.
Big Thunder Mountain is one of the rides that has the Fast Pass option, meaning that you can go and get a ticket to return later on in the day and avoid the queues. It is absolutely worth doing this, especially since there is no extra charge. It also allows you to plan your day a little better. Once you have got your Fast Pass ticket, you simply go to the Fast Pass queue at your allotted time (these are usually in half hour intervals) and you join a much shorter queue around the corner from the main entrance. There is something quite satisfying about walking past all the queuing people and skipping straight to the front! There are two cars going around the track at once, each holding about 20 passengers and, at peak times, one of the cars is reserved solely for Fast Track ticket holders.
===So Is It Worth A Go?===
Absolutely! No trip to Disneyland would be complete without a ride on Big Thunder Mountain and we often go on the ride twice. I love it - it is, like I said, thrilling without being terrifying. I would however strongly recommend getting a Fast Pass ticket so jump the queue.
Big Thunder Mountain is one of the most recognisable and popular attractions at the Disney Theme Parks. Four of the five Disney theme parks: Anaheim, Florida, Paris and Tokyo have versions of this ride, with Hong Kong Disneyland being the exception, as this park does not have, as yet, a Frontierland themed area, which is where this particular ride is located.
The particular version of the ride that I am reviewing, is the one at Disneyland Paris, where we went on holiday, as a family a few weeks ago, and also back in February 2008, which was the first time that we encountered the Paris version of this ride. There are slight variations between the different versions of the ride, but the overall experience is basically the same, as I have also ridden the one in the Florida park.
The ride, as I have mentioned, is situated in an area of the park called Frontierland. This area has a "Wild West" theme, and is based on America in the 19th century, complete with log built cabins, saloons, and even a little "Woodys Roundup" village for young Toy Story Fans. The Frontierland at the Disneyland in Paris is slightly different to the ones at the other Disney Parks, as it also has a "Haunted" theme, which in my opinion is due to the fact that another ride, Phantom Manor, has been plonked there and looks quite out of place, so "imagineer" Bob Baranick and show writer Craig Fleming had to create a whole backstory of a wild west town called Thunder Mesa, which was supposedly a gold mining town, to link all of the attractions together. The gold in the mountains was supposed to be guarded by a Native American spirit that would cause earthquakes if distrurbed, and as the miners dug deeper into Big Thunder mountain to look for gold, there was a great earthquake, and yet years after this disaster, "haunted" mine trains could still be seen whizzing up and down the mountain (I know, what a load of old tosh!). The story also weaves into the Phantom Manor backstory, as the manor was supposedly owned by the founder of the town. Because of this supernatural theme, this area is a central area where Disney stage special Halloween events, and is re-named "Halloween Land".
The focal point of the Frontierland area is a huge lake, called the Rivers of the far West, which has two New Orleans style riverboats that give rides to guests. In the middle of the lake is Big Thunder Mountain, a massive structure that looks like a sandstone butte from Arizona's monument valley, and if you ride the riverboats, you can see that there appears to be no link between the island mountain in the centre of the lake, and the mainland. My kids were really puzzled about how the trains got to the island in the middle of the lake, but all would be revealed....
*OK, enough backstory! What is Big Thunder Mountain exactly?*
Big Thunder mountain is a rollercoaster style ride which weaves around, under and through the huge "sandstone" mountain. The track layout is supposed to be a mine train, so some areas of the ride are underground in the mines, whereas other parts of the ride have you precariously speeding close to the outside edge of the mountain.
The ride is not as intense as other rollercoaster rides, such as Space mountain, and does not put your body through too much agony when you ride. Therefore, it is suitable for people of almost any age, as long as they are aware before the ride starts that it is quite fast, very thrilling and there are some drops and dark areas. It is also EXTREMELY NOISY, so anyone who can't tolerate loud noise better steer clear of this particular attraction! Thankfully, there are no loops or 360 twists, so Thunder Mountain is even safe for granny to ride, as long as she takes her hearing aid out!
The layout of the ride is absolutely amazing and awe inspiring, with the "mountain" visible from many areas of the park, as it is so high. The rocks that form the mountain look really authentic, and the mine is really atmospheric. This is a ride that really does transport you to a different place and time.
*To Q or not to Q?*
Now I shall describe the experience of Big Thunder Mountain for the riders. The first thing I must warn you about this ride is that the queues are MASSIVE. I'm talking 60 minutes when it is quiet and 90 minutes or more at busy times. The first time I went on the ride back in 2008, me and my daughter, who was then 6 years old, queued for the full 60 minutes to get on this ride. The queueing experience is really horrible, as you are cramped in a claustrophobic building with rails that sem to be laid out like a maze, with a heaving mass of people all shuffling slowly along to the front. You can't see where the line begins or ends, and once you are in it, woe betide you if you need a wee or want to leave the line, as it is virtually impossible. Some rides have things to look at when you are queueing, but in this line all you can see (and smell!) are other people. At the end of the hour, my feet were really hurting, and as much fun as the ride was, I would not be repeating that experience again!
There is an alternative option. Located near the ride are several Fastpass machines. Get to one of these early enough, and you can cut your queueing time drastically. Unfortunately, when we went, there were huge queues just for the Fastpasses, and you could be waiting 20 minutes to get a ticket! The Frontierland gates open at 10:00 a.m. unlike other areas of the park which open at 8:00 for hotel guests, so there is usually a big crowd just waiting to get into the Thunder Mesa area. Once at the machine, you insert your park ticket, and you are given a pass with a time to retutn to the queue. The passes are snapped up really quickly.
We were very lucky as we were guests at the Disneyland Hotel. Guests at this hotel get a free Fastpass ticket every day to use at any time apart from 1-4 p.m. We always used our tickets to join the BTM queue at 4:00 p.m. on the dot, and this allowed us to enter by another gate and cut right into the beginning of the queue with no wait at all!
One day we were just about to get into the queue, when a man announced that the ride had broken down and everyone had to leave the queue. I felt really sorry for the people who may have been waiting 90 minutes and then never got a ride, and also the Fastpass people who had wasted their Fastpass. This actually happened several times on the holiday, and i was lucky not to be in the line at the time.
*The ride itself*
The queue culminates in a staircase and then there is a bar dividing the queue into two, one to the left and one to the right. The member of staff will ask you how many people are riding. You can get three people in one carriage if there are children riding, but only two adults can fit. You have to put your bag under your seat and pull the bar down over your lap. You are advised to remove your hat as the ride goes very fast and a hat would be easily blown off.
At the start of the ride you are whisked into a long dark tunnel, and everyone is screaming! This tunnel takes you underneath the lake and then rises up and there you are, on the mountain in the middle of the lake! The track rises and the train makes a very noisy clacking noise. As you look down the sides of the cave, you notice various details, something new each time, like the bubbling pools of lava to the right, or the fake falling rocks in the roof. There are lots of stalagtites and stalagmites surrounding you in the cave.
No time to take in the surroundings though as you zoom around the outside of the mountain with your hair streaming behind you, if you have any! The view from the mountain is great and as well as the lovely river and boats, you can make out many of the other park rides and attractions as you speed around the track.
The ride occasionaly slows down and there are some things to look at like a model of a goat and a donkey on the way round. The ride soon gathers speed again though and dips up and down wildly, whilst the various wooden mine structures overhead give you the impression that you are going to crash into something.
We soon end up climbing through a tunnel with lots of danger and warning signs plastered all over the entrance. This is a TNT area and it is about to blow! As we climb the creaky hill, we hear a voice shout "Fire in the hole", as we are blasted up through the tunnel followed by loud explosion sounds, and falling rock effects as the tunnel begins to collapse with us inside!
A final tunnel back under the lake is filled with luminous bats that glow eerily in the dark as we are returned back to our start destination. The train slides around the corner and we wave to the people in the queue before returning to the station, but this time, our train is on the opposite side of the tracks to where we started.
After disembarking, we go through a small tunnel which dispays the on ride photos that were taken during one of the drops on the ride. These can be purchased, but most people were just snapping the pics on their mobile phone cameras!
We all loved BTM, from our daredevil 5 year old to my "too old for rides" husband. This ride had something for all of us. It was gentle enough not to be too scary, but thrilling enough to be lots of fun. Our friend who hates traditional coasters had lots of goes on this and really enjoyed it. We went on it every day of our holiday, but by the last day, the kids thought that it was slow. I explained that they had just got used to it.
As much as I would like to give this ride 5 stars, I have to mark it down on the grounds that it seemed to break down regularly and the queuing system was really awful, as well as the fact that the clacking noise really was unbearably noisy at times, and my kids all put their fingers in their ears! This aside, BTM is a "must do" ride if you go to Disneyland Paris, and in my opinion the best ride there.
Big Thunder Mountain is my favourite ride at Disneyland Paris! Situated in Frontierland, you can't miss this attraction. It is a runaway mine train ride, but with so much more detail than similar ones elsewhere. The queuing area is impressive, set in an old mine and with something to look at with every turn. This is quite handy because if you come here at peak hours, you will face a considerable queue. This can be remedied by obtaining a Fastpass, which will allow you to cut the queue considerably at your designated time (an hour's window).
The ride itself can pick up a lot of speed in the tunnels and therefore may not be suitable for younger children. However, it doesn't provide the same thrills as Space Mountain or Indiana Jones. I recommend riding this at night for the sole reason that when you reach the top, the view of the park all lit up is spectacular.
There is a height restriction of 40 inches for this ride.
Big Thunder Mountain is a roller coaster ride in the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World. The ride is themed as an old runaway mine train. The ride was opened in September 1979 and is sill open to this day. This ride has 4 sisters around the world all with the same theme but different track layout.
The ride at Walt Disney World is located at the back of the park next to Splash Mountain. The ride is themed so well that rattle snakes through the day move to the desert like hills created for the ride. Each morning before the ride opens workers have to walk the track and surroundings removing these snake before guests arrive.
The ride last 3.18 minutes and has 3 lifts that take riders to the top of the mountain to wind its way back down. The drops on the ride are not big and the track only reaches a total height of 50 ft. The reason the ride is do good is because of the tight turns and sudden small drops. The theme when on the ride is also very good. Going through mines, and caves with bats and waterfalls.
This ride is a perfect first roller coaster for anyone. It is not really fast and has no big drops. Once you have done this ride you can make you way up to the next stage.
The line normally is not very long of this ride but it depends what time of year you go.
The ride does has a fast pass line so if the line it long you can get a ticket and come back later for a shorted line.
You cant beat a good run away train ride! Im a huge Disney fan and visit the Walt Disney World resort in Florida once or twice each year. Its one of my favourite rises out there and when i got the opportunity to visit Disneyland Paris it was one ride i was really looking forward too!
The ride is essentially the same, same train, same storyline just a slightly different track layout i think. Although it cant really be classed as a "thrill ride" its still a lot of fun. Its pretty fast with losts of twists and turns and sudden drops that make it quite rickety - just like a runaway mine train! The attention to detail on the things around the track - characters and the scenery etc add to the excitement of the ride. Its perfect for most kids, there is a height restriction but i think most kids over the age of about 6 can get on it. The only thing is its a little bumpy so they'll need to hold on! I also find this ride is more fun at night when they light up the track!
Its actually a pretty long ride aswell, seems like your on it for ages which is good if you've queued up for a long time. As its one of their most popular rides it does tend to get quite a long queue so its worth heading their early!
All in all a ride not worth missing!
This is yet another ride at Disneyland Paris, and the one which we were most excited about the first time we went to Disneyland a few years ago now, well infact 8 years ago, before the Studio Park was there!
We booked to go to Disneyland and my then 5 yr old brother had been going on and on about going on Thunder Mountain first, he'd been watching the videos on the internet and reading all about it and getting all excited.
So we got to Disneyland, and the very first thing my brother did was look on the map to find Big thunder Mountain, we were all ruhsed there by him straight away, and he queued up with my mum. At that time I was the wimp of the family and wouldn't go on anything, I had never really been on many rollercoasters, and wouldn't DREAM of going on anything upside down, the biggest thing I had been on was the Texas Tornado in Frontierland in Morecambe when I was a kid. And so I wouldn't go on Thunder Mountain until my mum came off it and told me that it didn't go upside down (that was the main thing I was scared of!!! lol).
They went on it, and when they came off my brother was in tears and had been all the way round, whilst my mum who normally hates rollercoasters had a big smile on her face. Poor Jack had been terrified of the ride, and my mum had been converted!
I then had a go, seeing as my mum told me it didn't go upside down! The queue is always big for Thunder Mountain and it isn't made particulaly fun like Aerosmith is, and is mainly ouside under a wooden hut type building which is very cold and wet in bad weather. But when you FINALLY get to the ride itself, there are two trains on either side of the ride to make the waiting time less. You are told where to go, and two people can fit into each carriage, of which there are around 12 per train. This is a "runaway" train!!!
When you set off your going quite slow out of the station, then pick up speed, it actually gets quite fast to be honest! And there are lots of twists and turns, at a couple of points the train is almost at a 90 degree angle to the water below!!! The ride lasts around 4 minutes, and takes your picture as you go around, there are a few big dips in the ride which are really fun! A lot of the ride is in the dark, absolute pitch black which was why my brother hated it when he went on it!
This ride is definitely my second favourite ride in Disneyland, second only to Aerosmiths rollercoaster in the Studio park which I LOVE!
Definitely one worth queuing for!!!
Each disneyland park (except Hong Kong) has a version of a run away train, and Paris' version is called Big Thunder Mountain, which exists in the middle of the lake, over a fake village called Thunder Mesa.
There is a story behind the Big Thunder Mountain Attraction. I am not sure if it is real or not but I like the sound of it, it adds to the excitment of the ride. In the 1800s gold was discovered in the American Southwest and a mining village quickly built up around it. The village seemed jinxed and after a series of flash floods the viallage and mines were abandoned. Years later they village was discovered with the trains running independently with no operator. Thunder Mountain was built based on this haunted out of control railroad.
The setting is a railroad cut into a rocky mountain side. The designers pruposefully constructed the rail trakcs after the mountain had been done in an attempt to make it look authentically cut into the mountainside. The mountain rocks were based on Bryce canon national park in Utah.
The train has 15 carriages each of which take two people and have overhead restraints to kee you in tight. The ride is fast and designed to make you feel like it cold derail any second. There are lots of getting close to edges and big dips. In rollercoaster terms this ride is not that scary, there are better rollercoasters out there, especially in disneyland Paris, but scenerary wise and build up-this ride is amazing!
Big Thunder Mountain is a ride in Disneyland Paris. There is also a version of the same ride in Magic Kingdom Florida and Disneyland California.
It can be found in 'Frontierland' which is situated on the west side of the park. Other attractions in Frontierland include the Phantom Manor and the Thunder Mesa Riverboat Landing (which is a big Mississippi riverboat which sails the lake around Big Thunder Mountain). As with all the rides in Disneyland you don't have to pay to ride Big Thunder Mountain as the price for rides is included in the entry fee.
You can't miss Big Thunder Mountain as it is set on a huge orangey red rock and as the ride is in constant use trains go by every minute or so. The theme behind the ride is that a gold was discovered on big thunder mountain way back in the late 1880's and a mining company soon got involved. They dug out tunnels and set up tracks for their mine trains unknowing that the mountain was infact cursed by native Americans. Before long the mountain and nearby town got hit by an earthquake and was left abandoned. Many years later the mountain was discovered with the mine trains racing around the tracks without passengers or a driver. The train is also commonly referred to as 'the runaway train' for this reason. The rock looks quite authentic but is quite obviously man made. The rocks (and the queueing area) are covered by old wooden barrels, empty wagons, rusty wheels and cogs, cactus and the train track is made to look old and worn out. There is also a big lake which surrounds the ride. The front of the train looks like a rusty old steam train and has 5 carriages which hold 15 rows of seats. Each row of seats usually seats 2 passengers (but I think there might be room for 3?) which means up to 30 passengers can ride per train (or up to 45 if my suspicions are correct).
Big Thunder Mountain was first opened in 1992 when the park opened. It is a rollercoaster but does not have any loops and does not go upside down. It is not a scary ride but it does go quite fast - up to 40 miles per hour. The duration of the ride lasts 3-4 minutes which is about average. The track is very windey and dippy which means the ride is quite jolty and can throw you around a bit, therefore the ride is not suitable for young children (unless they are over 1.2 metres tall), elderly people, pregnant women, and those with weak hearts and back problems! The ride is best suited to adults, older children, teenagers and families. Extreme thrill seekers probably won't be too impressed.
Big Thunder Mountain is a classic and very popular Disney attraction which means there are usually big queues for it. The queues can spiral round for hours. This is not a ride I would personally be happy queueing for more than half an hour for, but is a classic and therefore a must do. My advise would be to use the Disney Fastpass service. The Fastpass service allows you to jump right to the front of queues. You need to look for the fast pass distribution machine which is situated near the entrance of the ride, choose the time you would like to return and pop your park ticket into the machine. You'll then be issued with a fast pass ticket with a time to return to the attraction on it. When you return to the attraction you will enter a separate fast pass entrance where queueing times will be less than 10 minutes (sometimes you can jump straight on the ride). Fast passes come at no extra cost and you can use them as many times as you like. I definitely advise taking advantage of this service. Another way to avoid queues is to leave this ride until the very end of the day - this is when people start leaving the park and all the rides have small or no queues.
When you get to the front of the queue you have to queue up at separate gates (according to which row of seats you will be sitting in), when the train pulls in and the other passengers get off the gates open and you can board the train. The restraint is in the form of a lap bar which automatically lowers. The train pulls away and goes inside a dark cave. The train then goes up a steep hill and as you reach the top of the hill it looks as though you are going to go through a small waterfall but instead the water goes down either side of the train and you don't get wet. You then take a few twists and turns and dip down into a pool of water where the ride takes your photo. Again you don't get wet but just sprinkled a little. There are many more hills and tunnels to go up and down, it seems the higher the hill the faster you come down again. After the first minute it does seem a little 'samey' but is still lots of fun.
I recommend riding this at least one if you are in Disneyland Paris.
Big Thunder Mountain is one of those rides that is classed as a big thrill ride but you look at it and think that it's not that much of a big thrill as there's no up-side-down turns and there's only a bar across your lap to hold you in. Admittedly it does look slightly more like an older child's ride than an adults but, until you've tried it, you won't see the appeal. This is one of the best rides in the whole of Disneyland Paris purely because it is so much fun and you are sure to come out with a humungous grin plastered across your face.
On it you'll ride a runaway mine train through and over Big Thunder Mountain. You will go up steep inclines then plunge back down the mountain again, across rivers, through caves with many twists and turns to throw you about in your seat. There are many things to look out for along the way such as animals, sign posts and watch out for the other runaway train that passes you along the way.
It is much more fun than the Runaway Train at Chessington World of Adventures and is sure you give you many more thrills and screams. It does go pretty fast so you're probably best having your hair tied back and take any hats off as they'll be blown off with the wind whooshing past you.
Big Thunder Mountain is in the main Disneyland Park and is the main attraction in Frontier Land. It is in the very centre of the lake so you can't fail to miss it. Because it is one of the big thrill rides in Disneyland Paris this does mean that the queues are astronomical to get on, usually with a 60-90 minute waiting time. However, you can get fast past tickets to take you past all the queues at a certain time but, if you wait until the evening when the firework display is going on in the centre of the Disneyland Park, everyone flocks to this and this is by far the best time to do this ride. We found that we didn't wait more than 10 minutes but we often just walked straight on. So we just kept going back on again until we'd been on about 5 or 6 times and were exhausted from the dizziness of it but we had permanent grins on our faces from the fun! I also found that going on at night made it a lot more fun and gave it a bit more of a thrill for me.
There's a photo on this ride and, due to going on it so many times, we knew where the camera was and kept pulling stupid faces which was so funny to then see on the screen when we came out. The photos are taken of each cart of 4 - 2 people in the front, 2 in the back. It doesn't really matter where you sit in this ride as the front, middle and back all get the same experience.
Big Thunder Mountain is one of the most famous rides in the Disney Parks, this rollarcoaster is in Frontier Land in the Disneyland Paris Magic Kingdom park and is themed like a mining train, it goes both in doors and out doors and there is a picture taken of riders on one of the hills on the track that it follows.
This ride is avaiable for the fastpass service, for those who have appropriate tickets, this is great as it is a very popular ride in the park in at peak times you can see queues that will last 2-3 hours for it. It is regularly checked to prevent breakdowns because of this, which can make queue times even longer.
This ride isnt that scary and is good for adults and children alike, within the 40" height restrictions, there are no loops or inversions in Big Thunder Mountain and the max speed that is hit is just under 40mph, there is one semi dark tunnel in this ride though so if you dont like the dark this ride isnt for you.
Personally I am more of an adreniline junkie and find this ride a bit of a waste of time, as the queue time is so long. Granted the Paris version of the ride is much more exciting than the American version of the ride (the american one feels much slower and smoother) though if you like some thing a bit more exciting, try Space Mountain in DiscoveryLand, or the AeroSmith Rockin RollarCoaster in the MGM Studios.
Though it is nice to go on at least once as it is such a popular and famous ride, it does have its charms, though I recommend getting the fastpass on this ride, as I didnt think it was worth the wait.
Big Thunder Mountain is one of my favourite rides in Disneyland Paris.. It is situated in Frontierland which is themed on the old wild west. This is the main ride in this land, there really isn't much else, exept for Phantom Manor. However its worth visiting this land for the great cowboy atmosphere. Tip - if you walk right past Big Thunder Mountain and towards the train station, you will find either Woody or Jessie signing autographs most mornings.. There are usually other characters about as well neat the food place. Anyway back to the ride , the queues can be long so its worth getting a fast pass, but as stated in other reviews, the queue is quite pleasant as it twists and turns and there plenty to look at. My daughter first went on this ride when she was 3 (she's tall for her age) and she loves it. As soon as you set off it goes dark whilst you go through the tunnel which takes you onto the island. You then go up the first hill and you sometimes wonder if you are gonna make it up as the train grinds and clanks from side to side, but once up the top, its off you go on a series of bends and drops until the last bit which is really fast and pitch black until you come back out of the tunnel with a big grin on your face. My whole family really love this ride, and have been on it time and again, an old favourite that you never tire of.
Next to the Aerosmith Rock and Rollercoaster, this is one of my favourite Disneyland rides. Big Thunder Mountain is at both the Paris Disneyland and the Orlando park too but this review is about the Paris version.
I always find the queue for this ride slightly less painful than some of the queues at the park. It weaves in and out and all around in such a manner that you think you're closer to the front of the queue than really you are! Ok it can be frustrating but at least you never feel like you've got another twenty minutes to wait, when really you have, and it makes it easier to get through. I do recommend getting a fast pass for this ride where you get a ticket and come back later to go in the shorter queue as there's always a wait for this ride, even in the middle of winter when the park is quieter.
The ride is basically a really fast rollercoaster. It's a family rollercoaster and my grandson is tall enough to go on it although I wouldn't think it's appropriate for most little ones at all, my grandson included. You can do parentswitch if you want to both have a go and the little one doesn't to save queueing up twice though.
The ride goes up through a big dark tunnel to start off with and the climb is really very steep. It's a bit frightening even thanks to all the creaking and groaning the track makes as it struggles up the hill! When you come out into daylight, there's a matter of seconds before you're up and over the peak of the hill and whizzing down the other side.
Despite being a family rollercoaster, this really is extremely fast and there's a real thrill to be had as you slide down the other side. There are plenty of turns, twists and bends along the way and the ride lasts for two circuits of the track which is a good length of time. If you're planning a visit to Disneyland Paris, this is one ride not to be missed.
Big Thunder Mountain has to be my favourite ride at Disneyland.
As you enter the que system you get immersed in all the theming of the old mining industry. I would reccomend getting fast track for the ride as the que can be so long at peak times, a good 40 minute wait sometime, and although I love the ride, it only lasts a few minutes, so I don't want to spend too long in the que when you could be doing something else!
Once you get to the front of the que you see the rollercoaster, themed like an old run-away train! I love being at the back as it always seem like you're going much faster!
The cast members always seem to be very enthusisatic on this ride, all shouting and singing merrily away! One time I went on there it was my birthday and I had a birthday badge on so the cast member let me and my sister stay on the train and ride again without having to que!
As the train pulls away from the "station" you start your climb for the first drop. Then away you go!
This coaster is great as you have all the drops and quick turns that keep it exciting but there are no loops or any scary corkscrews so this is great as an introduction to rollercoasters!
All through the ride there are loads of little features to look out for, the ee-ooring donkeys, hanging bats, sparkling gold and much much more. It is a whole experience which I think Disney does well. Not just a ride, but visual and sounds to go with it making it an experience rather than just a ride.
If you have ever been on the Disneyland railway train that goes around the park, you might remember a freeze scene as you go into frontier land, this can also be seen from this ride!
One of the best parts about this ride is the view from the top summit. You get a beautiful view of the park and you even have time to take a picture (if you're brave enough to have your camera out that is)!
The only bad thing about this ride is it's over before you know it... back to the end of the que for more!
In my opinion one of the best rides at Disney Paris.
Big thunder mountain is a rollercoaster (not too fast, and no loops or upside down parts) where you sit in a mine cart and travel around a track.
Some of the scenery and effects are really good and you need to ride it several times to take it all in. Look out for the hanging bats with glowing eyes and the donkey.
This is as much a visual experiance as a rollercoaster, but it faster in certain seats, i found the very back to be much faster than the front. The ride can also be slightly bumpy, so this is worth bearing in mind.
The ride is suitable for most people and ive seen very small kids, enjoying themselves on it.
The queues in peak seasons can be horrendous and ive seen the fast pass queue take over 30minutes to get to the front. But out of peak season its much quieter. Try and ride first thing in morning when park opens if possible.
Frontier land is the old mining town created at the Disneyland Park in Paris it is home to Phantom Manor, The Steam Paddle Boat and Big Thunder Mountain.
Thunder Mesa is a 200ft red-rock island and it is home to Thunder Mesa mining company and as the old mining trains curl around the mountain every minute or so passers-by wonder how the train gets from one side of the mountain to the other.
Big Thunder Mountain is set inside superficially rotten tracks, dilapidated buildings perched on rocks. The entrance to Thunder Mountain is to the right of where you enter Frontier land, when the park is busy a fast pass service is in operation allowing you to enter your theme park admission ticket into a machine which will then return your ticket along with a fast pass ticket that will state a time to return to the ride and bypass the queue.
At the time of our visit the park was quiet so the fast pass service was not in operation but the queue was only a maximum wait of 10 minutes or so anyway and it moved pretty quickly.
The queue for the ride is decorated with western style gold mining equipment along with various sound effects. The Queue splits off into two queues to he left and the right but the majority of riders veer to the right causing a longer more excessive queue so my first tip in my reviews from Disney would be to advise you to take the left in the queue it will be a shorter queue as most people tend to follow other people in the queue rather than splitting off.
The queue then begins to descend down a flight of stairs which are also separated into two along with the queue to allow you to remain in two separate queues and this will then take you down to the platform to access your ride.
As you get to the front of the queue a crew member directs you to your loading bay when the train arrives into the station the gate automatically opens to allow you to enter the mine train ride.
It is two people per carriage and the lap bar lowers down to secure you to the ride, you are allowed to take bags onto the ride as long as they are stowed away; by your feet.
The train starts to rumble out of the station and the red lantern to the top of the train car's corrugated tin roof goes out and the carriages follow on into the darkness as we enter the first of a pitch black tunnel and we swoop to the right hand side before there is a deafening clatter of the train about to climb the first of three hills, this is the most spectacular of all the climbs and this is the section that crosses your from the mainland station onto the island section of this attraction and this is what makes this ride different to other Thunder Mountain rides in the other Disney Parks.
The ride curls over the top of the hill and begins a coiling descent around the mountain and the smooth, thrilling ride continues. Tight spirals take you to the front of the mountain where you dive under a family of possums that spin around as the carriages pass and the remaining hills take you up and down without any real drops, so it is ideal for someone wanting to ride a mild rollercoaster.
The ride seems to continue for what seems like a life time and passing various scenerary you start to feel as if you are in a run down episode of a western but as you hit the final climb and you look up to the roof you can see that the mountain seems to be falling in and it's a tough climb to the top to escape before it falls in and a small drop and a few more twists and we come to the end of the ride with a sharp stop.
It's a great ride that's not too scary for even the youngest of rollercoaster enthusiasts and as with all Disney rides that fact that a standard rollercoaster is housed in such a great design makes it all the more enjoyable.


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I was just glancing at the list out of curiosity of what might happen near trade deadline. I thought maybe there would be a top of rotation starter that could come available due to pending free agency but it appears not. After looking at this the Reds definitely need their young starters to continue to develop because I dont believe there will be any possibility of help from this list. Granted the Reds might not have been in hunt anyways for a Ace but appears there wont even be speculation as with Cliff Lee in 2010. Also appears the SS and 3B future will have to come from in house as well. The farm system has done a great job so far with getting the reds here, lets hope they finish job and get us to next level in playoffs.
Is it just me or will this be the weakest Free Agent class in recent memory?
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Crime dramas have been a staple of American television since its inception. What possible new angle can there be? Women have long since become detectives; even criminals and psychic mediums have joined the force. When television's loosened mores made sex a staple of prime time, the genre inherited a seemingly endless trust fund, but even that's been spent. The developments in forensic science offered a new frontier for crime drama, which homesteaders quickly claimed.
Two cop shows, however, deserve attention—and a third is developing in interesting ways. The Emmy nominations that "Justified" gained in its first two seasons are well deserved. One doesn't expect a lawman to be laconic, but Deputy U.S. Marshal Raylan Givens—Timothy Olyphant, the avatar of marshals, after his performance as one on the HBO Western "Deadwood"—is just that. Perhaps he's laid-back because he's sipping bourbon and fighting crime in rural Kentucky rather than overstimulating himself with L.A. lattes. Justified picks up a formula used only once before in TV crime, in the campy 60s "Batman" series: villains steal the show. Margo Martindale won an Emmy for her portrayal of a moonshine-brewing, mountain matriarch, who kept the family fed by lifting pot growing to the level of agribusiness. And no brief review can do justice to Boyd Crowder, played by Walton Goggins. Only Milton's Satan could match the joyful fecundity of his evil, and, in Boyd's case, it's iniquity on the fly, not so much avocation as a venal adaptation of rural life in 21st century America.
TNT's "Southland" has never received the attention it deserves. It's difficult to imagine how its creator Ann Biderman sold a uniformed patrol-car drama to television executives. Why go back to the streets with thoroughly ordinary cops, their divorce and drinking problems in tow? Because good art reveals what we can't, or don't want to, see. No other cops on television confront the wino Vietnam vet, get to know him, and then make us face the fact that they must leave him on the street because we as a society haven't given them the resources to do anything else. No one can approve of rookie cop Ben Sherman (played by Benjamin McKenzie), "haul-off" a mouthy Catholic high school girl, but, seeing the scene unfold, one can certainly understand why he did it. And watching Michael Cudlitz play John Cooper, a burly, closeted gay cop, using Oxycontin to push his lower back and his psyche across the finish line of retirement, it's difficult to gainsay his choices.
In this era of reality TV, two first-class crime dramas should be blessing enough, but a third, NBC's Awake, may have joined their ranks. Its niche? What if the cop needs a therapist to recover from tragedy? Been done before, though not as a series premise. But there's more. What if the cop's condition is so deteriorated that he requires a therapist to tell him what's real and what isn't? Wait, there's still more. What if reality for this cop has become so bifurcated that he has two therapists, each one telling him that the other is a figment of his imagination? Who, in his right mind, is going to gainsay the gravitas of B.D. Wong—who has already played a cop psychologist on Law and Order, S.V.U.—unless his other therapist is none other than Broadway's celebrated Cherry Jones, whom TV viewers would also know as President Allison Taylor of Fox's "24"? In this drama, the viewer must also puzzle over which shrink is real. Of course, I want claim my own pathology. B.D. Wong challenges Detective Michael Britten; Cherry Jones affirms him. Wong has to be a figment of the imagination.
Dramatic series don't survive without compelling characters and story arcs that cause them to change. At this point, the character development is centered upon Detective Michael Britten, played superbly by Jason Isaacs, who is perhaps best known for playing Lucius Malfoy in the Harry Potter film series. He was so dastardly in Mel Gibson's "The Patriot," crowds cheered when he died. Here, one can't help but to root for this grieving man.
In the early episodes Britten first realizes that he is solving crimes in two alternative realities—one in which his son survived an auto accident, another in which his wife did—and then he learns how to exploit the gift. Here I draw an image from spiritual direction. Blessing and curses tend to come entwined. There's a bright side to the darkness, and a danger in the boon. As the series unfolds, Britten begins deliberately to move between his realities, using experiences gained in one to helpful effect in the other. And one more note from spiritual direction. If the great act of deception is to convince us we alone of God's creation aren't good, aren't psychologists doing a bit of the Lord's work when they do affirm us?
Yet characters don't develop in isolation. If this series is to work, B.D. Wong and Cherry Jones will not be able to maintain their professional distance. They're already inside Britten's head. At least one of them might be real and might perhaps have a less than professional interest in him. That's the promise of a story arc, which is needed, because each episode is highly formulaic and because it is, in equal measure, both intriguing and unsettling for the viewer to watch each week, trying to unscramble these parallel realities along with Detective Britten. Is it the son or the wife—the latter particularly forgettable as a character—who is alive in the B.D. Wong version? Laura Innes, previously Dr. Kerry Weaver on "E.R.", appears as Captain Tricia Harper. She knows something about the car accident that claimed the life of Britten's son, or his wife, or both.
Drama worth watching should help us to confront and to claim our own humanity. To do that it has to offer compelling characters, whose challenges and ensuing personal change make us want to watch them develop. That's why cop shows are thrilling as entertainment but essentially trivial as art. Each week the slate of character development is thrown out of court in favor of a new crime, which explains why actors can so easily be replaced in crime dramas. "Justified" works because it brilliantly centers its character development in the criminals. And, if another of my cops on "Southland" is killed, I might go into therapy. In that case, I will have joined millions of Americans in that uniquely modern forum of character challenge and development. At least I hope that challenge occurs there, but what do I know? I'm watching from the outside.
That is, the premise is unacceptable.
If Jean-Luc Piccard comes along to collapse a static warp bubble, with Wesley Crusher's help, maybe the premise can be salvaged-both time-lines being the work of one person with pronounced multiple personalities (a concept which is only plausible to me in a person who embraces the "competing delusions" theory of cognition: an evil person). That person being healed after deciding not to be evil anymore (cf., "People of the Lie", Scott Peck) would put some moral meat on the skeleton of the therapist-hero genre.


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text: Arts Notes: April 8, 2012 By Sara Busse April 7, 2012 Story Share Beckley Art GroupBECKLEY, W.Va. -- The Beckley Art Group's Members Exhibit 2012, "It's Out of Our Hands," can be seen at the Cynthia Bickey Art Gallery through May 6.The annual exhibit reflects the talents of the fine art and craft artisans of the group, and all works are for sale. The exhibit is sponsored by LA Gates Co., Moore Insurance Services, Dr. Michael Webb, Rock & Coal Construction and Wells Fargo Advisors.The group will sponsor "Great Mandala For Peace," organized by Suraj Gurung, with an opening ceremony at 11 a.m. Saturday. Sponsored by Mountain State University, there will be international hors d'oeuvres served with tea, compliments of the MSU culinary department. View the progress each day from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. A closing ceremony will take place at 2 p.m. April 21.A sand mandala, unique to Tibetan Buddhism, is drawn and then filled in with colored sand. The finished mandala is consecrated and, having served its purpose, is swept up and dispersed into flowing water.Beckley Art Group, Cynthia Bickey Art Gallery, 600 Johnstown Road, Beckley, WV 25801. Gallery hours: 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. Wednesday through Saturday, 1 to 4 p.m. Sunday. Contact Karen Lilly, director, 304-253-9226 or email@example.com Art GalleryHUNTINGTON, W.Va. -- The Renaissance Art Gallery will be closed today for Easter.Charleston artist soloFREDERICKSBURG, Va. -- The Fredericksburg Center for the Creative Arts presents artist member Deborah D. Herndon's "Architecture Talks: Doors & Details from Europe and America" exhibit in the Center Members' Gallery during the month of April. This solo exhibit will run through April 29. Herndon's images "freeze frame" architectural details to reflect the culture of the hands that created them. "The metallic print process I use saturates color slightly and adds a third dimension to draw in the viewer," she said in a news release.She said her interest in architectural details and cultural artifacts stems from her educational background in anthropology and sociology and urban planning career. Her current show contrasts architecture in different parts of France; Barcelona, Spain; and cities of Belgium with some unique American locales.Fredericksburg Center for the Creative Arts, 813 Sophia St., Fredericksburg, VA 22401. Hours: noon to 4 p.m. Wednesday through Monday, 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Saturday; closed Tuesday. Visit www.fccava.org or contact Valerie McGovern, 540-373-5646 or firstname.lastname@example.com portraitsCHARLESTON, W.Va. -- The West Virginia Division of Culture and History has unveiled a new exhibit, "Portraits of Historic West Virginia Figures," the fourth and final installation in the "Inspired: A West Virginia Series of Juried Exhibitions" at the Culture Center. The show is in the West Virginia State Museum through Aug. 26. The show consists of 29 works by 20 artists in the areas of painting, print/drawing, photography, mixed media and crafts. Mary Gray, director of the Riffe Gallery for the Ohio Arts Council, in Columbus, Ohio, served as juror for the show. Contact Charles Morris at 304-558-0220.Exhibitors and works include John Barone, Morgantown, "Robert C. Byrd," lithograph, and "Waitman Thomas Willey," oil on canvas; Brooke Blatt, Huntington, "The Visionary: Collis P. Huntington," graphite drawing; Shelia Chipley, Princeton, "Mother Jones," mixed media, and "Robert C. Byrd," mixed media; John Farley, Huntington, "Don Kinnard: When we die, we will die with our arms unbound," colored pencil on paper, third place ($250); Jan Lewis Haddox, Point Pleasant, "Mad Anne Bailey," oil on canvas; Sharon Harms, Charleston, "American Genius: Pearl Buck," watercolor, and "History Maker Jim Justice," watercolor; James Huffman, Tornado, "Jesse 'Don' Knotts," pencil on paper; Nancy Key, Morgantown, "Portrait of Earl Ray Tomblin," acrylic, and "Portrait of Jay Rockefeller," acrylic; Laurel Mackenzie-Gage, "Capon Bridge -- Byrd with Fiddle," pencil and charcoal; Laura Moul, Charleston, "Basketball Legacy," digital photograph, and "Legacy of Service," digital photograph;Derek Overfield, Fairmont, "Captain Brown Contemplating his Mission," oil paint with photographic transfer on canvas, and "The Proud and Mournful Buckhougahelas," acrylic, photo transfer and cut fabric; Wanda Qualls, Hurricane, "Stonewall Jackson," oil painting, and "West Virginia Coal Miner," oil painting; Sandi K. Reinhart, Craigsville, "Old Timer Coal Miner," sepia oil painting on leather, First Place/Purchase Award ($1,000); Mary Russell, Charleston, "The Miner's Angel," watercolor; Gregory Sava, Birch River, "Robert C. Byrd, Jr.: Man of Justice," digital photograph; Debbie Kalt Sisson, Ripley, "Jennifer Garner," acrylic on canvas, and "Memories of Robert Byrd," watercolor; Stephen Sisson, Ripley, "Jerry West," pencil drawing; Tommy Warf, Huntington, "West Virginia Coal Women's Auxiliary," ceramic installation, honorable mention ($150); Wendy Wassink, Fayetteville, "Portrait of Senator H. Truman Chafin," oil painting, second place ($500); Sandra Wright, Mt. Storm, "Melvin the Miner," mixed media, and "WV Finest: Pearl S. Buck, Nobel Prize Winner," mixed media.Genealogy talkCHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Charles Ledbetter will present "Lessons Learned by a Lay Person about the Joys and Frustrations of Genealogical/Historical Research" at 6 p.m. Thursday in the Archives and History Library at the Culture Center. The program is free and open to the public. Ledbetter will relate some of the pitfalls he has found in researching the history of individuals and organizations and will share the lessons he has learned from that research. He will discuss online genealogy programs; working with librarians and archivists; using census data and official documents; conducting interviews; translating the language of the past; and interpreting myths and stereotypes. He also will reveal specific examples of lessons learned in his research of black Americans and American Indians.Ledbetter is the vice chairman of the state Archives and History Commission. He has a doctorate from Kent State University. After retiring as a lieutenant colonel from the U.S. Army, he spent almost 30 years at West Virginia State University, retiring as professor emeritus in education.Ledbetter is the author of three books and a number of articles.Contact Robert Taylor at email@example.com or 304-558-0230, ext. 163.Art Expo and SaleCHARLESTON, W.Va. -- The fifth annual Art Expo and Sale will take place from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. April 29 at the B'nai Jacob Synagogue, 1599 Virginia St. E., and hosted by the Ladies' Auxiliary.Exhibitors and authors include The Koenig Art Emporium and artist Traci Higginbotham; artists Don Ashworth, Jo Anne Jacobs, Debbie Sisson and Jeanne K. Cochran; photographers, Attish Baidya, Laura Maul and Sheila Caim; artist and jewelry designer Damienne Dibble; jewelry designers Charlotte Pritt and Lori Saas; woodturning by Stan Cook; woodworking by Andy Sheetz; pottery artist Randy Selbe; and jewelry designer and doll makers Jo Brewer and Kathy Petrella. Fabric artist and weaver Valerie Asbury from Lexington, Ky., will present a weaving project for children.Authors include Aila Accad, Lynn Clark, Harry Peck, Ruth Kirk and more to come. Cookbooks will be available from both Ladies' Auxiliary, "Still Cooking at One-Hundred," and Temple Israel's newly published addendum to a previously published edition.A lunch menu of soup, wraps, chips, fruits and drinks will be available through the Shape Shop of Charleston. Raffle tickets will be sold throughout the event for artwork and books from specific exhibitors. Winners do not have to be present to win.Donation at the door: adults $2 (includes a raffle ticket); children $1. Visit www.ArtExpo2012.com. Contact firstname.lastname@example.com or call Linda Toborowsky, 304-343-3547 or 304-549-4541, Danita Nellhaus, 304-549-3095, or Nancy Morton at B'nai Jacob, 304-346-4722.To have your announcement included in Arts Notes, email firstname.lastname@example.com or send it to Arts Notes, The Charleston Gazette, 1001 Virginia St. E., Charleston, WV 25301. Artwork can be submitted electronically or by mail. Deadline for inclusion in the Sunday Gazette-Mail is the Tuesday before Sunday publication. Story Share Story Share Trending Now 1 Philanthropist Betty Schoenbaum of Shoney's fortune turns 100 2 WVU pulls away from Kansas for 56-34 win 3 'Heroin(e)' spotlights women helping combat Huntington's drug crisis 4 New company planning $73M synthetic fuel plant in Greenbrier County 5 WVU notebook: Defense feeling a bit run down Live Life Fully: Communicating soundly, or in sound bites? Previous Story Books Notes: April 8, 2012 Next Story


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|Seventh Circuit Upholds Limitation Period for Seeking Equitable Innocent Spouse Relief
July 15, 2010
On June 8, 2010, the Seventh Circuit in Cathy Marie Lantz v. Commissioner, Docket No. 09-3345, reversed the Tax Court's decision invalidating the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) regulation, Section 1.6015-5(b)(1), which imposes a two-year limitations period for seeking equitable innocent spouse relief.
Innocent Spouse Provisions
The innocent spouse provisions in their present form were enacted in the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Restructuring and Reform Act of 1998 as three separate provisions for a spouse filing a joint return to obtain relief:
The Facts of Lantz
In Lantz, the taxpayer had filed a joint income tax return for 1999 with her husband. The taxpayer was a "financially unsophisticated woman", who had attended only one year of college and did not work outside the home. The amount of taxes shown on the joint return was paid in full. In 2000, the taxpayer's husband was convicted and imprisoned for Medicare fraud. As a result of the husband's fraud, the IRS determined that the couple had understated their income on their 1999 joint return and assessed them more than $900,000 in additional taxes, interest and penalties.
In 2003, during her husband's incarceration, the taxpayer received from the IRS a notice of intent to levy on her and her husband's property and instructions for filing a form for a due process hearing and general information regarding innocent spouse relief. The taxpayer relied upon her husband to return the form requesting a due process hearing and to obtain the form forher to seek innocent spouse relief. Before filing the form on behalf of his wife, the taxpayer's husband died.
It was not until three years later, when a refund due the taxpayer was applied to the outstanding tax liability from the joint return year, that the taxpayer discovered that the matter had not been taken care of by her now deceased husband. A short time later, she applied for innocent spouse relief by filing Form 8857. At the time, the taxpayer was "unemployed and impecunious." The IRS reject the taxpayer's claim as untimely, although admitting that but for the regulations, the taxpayer would be eligible for relief.
Tax Court Proceedings in Lantz
The taxpayer filed a petition with the Tax Court seeking innocent spouse relief. In response, the Commissioner raised the two year statute in the regulations and argued that the taxpayer's request for equitable innocent spouse relief under Section 6015(f) was untimely. The Tax Court, over a strong dissent, held that the regulation section imposing a two year limitations period for seeking equitable innocent relief under Section 6015(f) was invalid. The Tax Court applied the two step test of Chevron U.S.A., Inc. v. Natural Res. Def. Council, Inc., 487 U.S. 837 (1984) to determine whether the regulation was to be given deference. Finding that Congress by omitting the two year period in equitable relief section, but including it in the other sections had spoken on the issue by "audible silence", the Tax Court held the equitable relief section was not ambiguous and therefore, the regulation was invalid.
If the statute is found to be ambiguous, the second step of the test is to determine whether the regulation is a permissible construction of the statute. Although the Tax Court had already found the statute not to be ambiguous, it also concluded that the regulation was not a permissible interpretation of the statue because it was contrary to Congress's intent in omitting a limitations period in that section.
One dissenting opinion found that the regulation was ambiguous since Congresss silence did not speak directly to the issue and that the regulation was a permissible construction of the statute. Another dissenting opinion pointed out that the taxpayer, although she failed to meet the two-year statute of limitation in the regulations, could also seek relief under section 301.9100-3, which gives the Commissioner discretion to grant extensions to make regulation elections.
The Seventh Circuit in Lantz
Demonstrating the expansive deference that circuit courts give administrative regulations, the Seventh Circuit reversed the Tax Court and held that the regulation was valid and a reasonable interpretation of the equitable relief statute. Judge Posner, writing the opinion, stated that the circuit would not accept audible silence as a reliable guide to congressional meaning. Posner went on to find that since the equitable relief section is discretionary, the section itself presumes the power to make such exclusions is implicit in the grant of rulemaking authority. He further added that when Congress gives an agency a blank check in the form of discretionary relief, one of the blanks on the check is the deadline for applying for such relief.
There are many nits in Judge Posner's opinion and some flaws but the most serious is the writing of the word "equitable" out of the statute and the pointing to another remedy possibly available to the taxpayer to prevent collection of the joint tax liabilities by seeking a release of a levy because of economic hardship pursuant to Code Section 6343(a)(1). Posner thought that since the taxes owed by the husband were currently not collectible from her husband who was deceased, the taxpayer should be entitled to relief under Section 6343(a)(1). Obviously recognizing the equities involved, Posner gratuitously states that "[s[he is entitled a fortiori to such relief [referring to Section 6343(a)(1) relief] and there is no deadline for seeking it. We can at least hope that the IRS knows better than to try to squeeze water out of a stone."
There are at least two other cases involving the validity of the two year limitations period regulation on appeal. One, the Coulter case, is in the Second Circuit and the other, the Mannella case, is in the Third Circuit,.
It is hard to imagine that Congress, having explicitly included a two year limitation period for Sections 6015(b) and (c) , intended by its omission of a time period for equitable relief under Section 6015(f) that the time period should be limited to two years. This is especially true in light of the nature of the equitable relief, which acts as a safety valve and would be expected to be broader than the other forms of relief.
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Thomas R. Wechter, JD, LLM, is partner at Schiff Hardin LLP and concentrates his practice in the area of tax planning for individuals, corporations and partnerships and also handles matters involving tax controversies. Wechter has an LL.M. degree in Tax from New York University.


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PEMBROKE PARK, Fla. - Remember, this is still the peak of the hurricane season
South Florida residents are glad to see Isaac finally move beyond us. Unfortunately, Isaac is sure to cause much more extensive damage as it moves onto the north Gulf of Mexico coast and inland.
Elsewhere, there is currently a tropical wave passing over the Cape Verde Islands in the far eastern Atlantic. The associated showers and thunderstorms remain disorganized and the National Hurricane Center, at this time, is giving this disturbance a low chance, 10 percent, of developing into a tropical cyclone within the next two days.
Global models from the U.S. National Weather Service, European Center for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts, Canada, and the U.S. Navy all suggest a tropical cyclone will eventually develop from this tropical wave and be somewhere in the vicinity of the Leeward Islands in about five to six days.
Only time will tell if this wave will become our next tropical depression or storm. But the current tropical activity is a reminder that we are in the active part of the Atlantic hurricane season, which runs from mid-August to the middle or end of October.
I talked with a few stressed out people this weekend who had to make last minute preparations for Isaac. Remember that Isaac was a tropical storm -– not a hurricane and certainly not close be being a major hurricane. For those of you who have yet to make your hurricane preparedness plan that I was hoping you would do back in June, you still have time to do so before the next storm threatens. It will at least cut down on some of the stress.
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Enterprise honors victims and survivors of 1969 fire
By HUGH LESSIG | The (Newport News, Va.) Daily Press/MCT | Published: December 1, 2012
As the Navy prepares to bid farewell to the USS Enterprise, it paused Friday to honor those who lived through one of its darkest days.
On the morning of Jan. 14, 1969, a rocket loaded on an F-4 Phantom jet overheated due to exhaust from a nearby vehicle. The rocket blew up and set off a disastrous fire on the flight deck, spreading to fighter jets loaded with bombs, missiles and thousands of pounds of jet fuel.
Live bombs and burning fuel spread below as explosions tore massive holes in the deck. Before it was over, 28 sailors were killed and 314 were injured, many severely.
Petty Officer Third Class Terry Johnson had just ended a 12-hour overnight shift and was getting ready for sleep when the first explosion sounded.
"I barely got out," he recalled. "I was on my way out of there, and my compartment blew up and kind of flattened me. I bounced once and kept going."
As the fire roared, Johnson ran to the other side of the ship – where he was supposed to go – and joined a hose crew.
"There were about three or four people in my compartment when it blew up," he said.
At a brief morning service on a sun-splashed flight deck, the Navy paid homage to survivors like Johnson and to those sailors who didn't make it. The names of the dead were read aloud, and the crowd heard an emotional, halting speech from Michael Neville, who was on the flight deck at 8:18 a.m. when the first rocket exploded.
He reminded the group of the Enterprise's motto: "We are legend."
"We all own it," he said. "But the legend that we close the book on tomorrow was paid for with the lives of our fallen shipmates, tears of their loved ones, the blood of our wounded and the courage and tenacity of everyone onboard that day."
After the ceremony, he recalled his own experience during the fire.
"I was airman's apprentice. I was a pup. I was five months out of boot camp," he said. "The first couple of blasts knocked us all to the deck, and we simply had to retreat and cover ourselves, sort of get a sense of what was going on."
He said it was difficult to make it through the service.
"It is really – there's some conflicting emotions there," he said. "I'm kind of an emotional guy when it comes to this stuff."
From jets to leg irons
After the service, Enterprise veterans and their families toured the massive ship. Former Navy Capt. Jim Mulligan recalled the day he took off from the flight deck.
He didn't see U.S. soil again for nearly seven years.
On March 20, 1966, Mulligan was the executive officer of an Enterprise-based fighter squadron, set to take command April 1. He took off that day on a combat mission over North Vietnam.
Hit by enemy fire, he ejected from his A-4 Skyhawk and was knocked unconscious. He woke up in a rice paddy with a broken shoulder, cracked ribs and a rifle pointed at him.
Mulligan spent time in several prisoner of war camps, including the Hanoi Hilton, and became part of the fabled "Alcatraz Gang," a group of 11 POWs held in solitary confinement from October 1967 to December 1969 in a special facility about a mile from the Hanoi Hilton. They were considered leaders of the prisoners' resistance.
"We were selected as the bad guys who were ruining their programs," said Mulligan, now 86 and a resident of Virginia Beach.
He spent more than 42 months in solitary confinement, more than 30 months in leg irons. He was not released until 1973. On Friday, he seemed rather comfortable in the crowded confines of the Enterprise.
"The taxpayers invested wisely," he said.
Time to go
The word "bittersweet" was tossed around a lot Friday. It seemed a fitting term for the mixed emotions of Enterprise veterans who love their ship, but knew it was time to let go.
Retired Navy Capt. Paul Hollandsworth was the second fighter pilot to take off from Enterprise on Dec. 2, 1965, the day it became the first nuclear-powered ship to engage in combat. It was the early days of the Vietnam war, and the target was a camp where the enemy had made a foray into South Vietnam.
"You're nervous, but I think you're more nervous about how you will react, rather than getting hurt," he said.
That first mission in his A-4 went off without a hitch.
"We bombed it like we were going to get our butts shot off," he said. "Drop the bomb and run like hell. And of course, there wasn't anything there."
As Hollandsworth spoke, he sat in one of the thousands of folding chairs arranged in rows for Saturday's inactivation ceremony, the last public event for the Navy ship.
"It's sad to see a national asset like this go away, but how do I feel about it? It's time." Then he laughed. "I've grown too fat to fit in an A-4! It's like everything else. Time passes us by and it's time to put her away."
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We live in a busy world and few people have too much time on their hands. This makes living a healthy lifestyle and managing weight challenging, because it takes time and effort. So, how can we more effectively manage weight in this busy world we live in?
It helps to have the right perspective. For almost all of us, I'd suggest it isn't time that prevents us from making efforts, it's priorities. Achieving a healthy weight can help improve health in many ways, improve quality of life, and help us live longer. What could be more important than that?
Although it takes time to implement healthy lifestyle habits, the return on investment is tremendous — which makes the time investment worth it.
Another helpful item is to look at managing weight not as something "extra" to do, but rather a part of our everyday lifestyle. Just as we eat and sleep every day, we should get some type of physical activity every day, whether it's exercise, activities throughout the day or both.
Taking time to seek out and prepare or purchase healthy, low-calorie food should also be part of our lifestyle, just like brushing our teeth. This doesn't mean you need to spend hours in the kitchen or gym. And some days are certainly tighter than others.
But there are strategies you can employ to make healthy weight management part of your life. At first, it will take a little longer, just like it takes longer to make a recipe you've never made before.
But as time goes on, it becomes more second nature to eat well and be active. For example, many people say they don't feel right if they don't get regular physical activity.
Here are some ways to save time but still eat healthy and get regular physical activity:
"The Mayo Clinic Diet" book has other suggestions for effective and time-efficient weight management strategies. What are some of the ways you incorporate time-saving weight management strategies in diet and physical activity in your lifestyle? Please share.
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PITTSFIELD -- There won't be any Serpico looks for officers not working undercover, but a Pittsfield Police Department manual update will soon allow policemen to sport well-trimmed beards.
Chief Michael J. Wynn said Friday he has inserted language on beards in the department Manual of Rules and Regulations as part of a revision of the document.
"During a review of the manual in 2011, beards didn't come up," Wynn said. "But immediately after, officers started asking if they could be allowed. I said you'll have to wait for the next review in two years."
While facial hair will now be allowed in the department of 70 uniform officers and detectives, that doesn't mean Old West or circa 1900 New York police handlebar mustaches, the chief said.
"Neatly trimmed" is the salient description in the manual.
Wynn said he also added more clarifying detail to the section on grooming for male officers as part of the revision.
The section on beards reads in part: "If a beard and/or mustache is worn, it shall be groomed and neatly trimmed at all times in order not to present a ragged appearance. Full and partial beards (goatees) are authorized, but patchy, spotty clumps of facial hair are not considered beards and as such are not permitted."
Referring to beards, mustaches and sideburns, the new section specifies that "new growth must be started at the beginning of at least two consecutive days off." That, Wynn said, is to discourage a stubble look, which might remind some of "Miami Vice" or other cop shows.
"Sporting scruff, by trimming a mustache, goatee or beard closer than one quarter inch, is not allowed," the manual states.
Facial hair also must be no more than three-quarters of an inch, according to the rules, and "the bulk of the beard (distance that the mass of facial hair protrudes from the skin of the face) shall not exceed one-half inch."
Wynn said police departments in Boston and other Massachusetts communities have, for several years, approved beards.
The chief said "maybe three or four officers" have indicated they want to grow a beard.
Existing manual sections pertaining to grooming for police include those on earrings or studs, fingernails and polish, hairstyles for females, wigs or hairpieces, tattoos and body art, jewelry and the use of cosmetics.
General topics in the manual include acceptance of gifts, political activities, secondary employment, associations, and professional and private conduct.
The revised police manual also includes language previously included specifying that there is a chain of command within the department but not in the 2011 version. Wynn said it was determined the wording on chain of command should be specified.
The manual revisions will come before the City Council for review at its meeting Tuesday.
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- Anti-Semitism in the United States, 1964
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The Faith Communities Today 2010 National survey brings together 26 individual surveys of congregations. Twenty-four surveys were conducted by or for partner denominations and faith groups, representing 32 of the countrys largest denominations and traditions. The common core questionnaire of the survey replicates more than 150 questions from the 2000, 2005 and 2008 surveys, plus a special section on the 2008 recession. This dataset contains the FACT 2010 data from Jewish congregations in North America.
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- Jewish Day School Study, 1993
During the last several decades, two opposing trends have been taking place. On the one hand, there has been growth in the Jewish day school movement. On the other, there has been a serious decline in Jewish supplementary school enrollment and a defection from Jewish life of growing numbers of Jews. These two opposing trends give rise to several questions including: What happens when intensive and extensive Jewish education confronts a world full of secular, intermixing and challenging modalities? What role does a Jewish day school experience play in Jewish continuity of its exponents?
This study seeks to assess the impact of Jewish all-day education. Questions such as the following are addressed: What kind of Jewish behavior do young adults who attend Jewish day schools exhibit? Do those who attended for longer periods of time demonstrate higher levels of Jewish observance and involvement? Is Jewish behavior of day school graduates related to things such as home background, Jewish camp experience, Israel visitation or study in Israel? What are the marriage patterns of graduates? Does a college education reduce the possibility that Jewish day school graduates will remain practicing Jews? In short, what is the Jewishness quotient of Jewish day school graduates who are at risk of losing their Jewish identity because of the lure of contemporary society?
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The Jewish Values Survey examined the values, issues and political preferences of Jewish Americans. The survey included questions that explored views about religion and Jewish culture and traditions. The survey featured items to gauge views about foreign policy, Iran and Israel. The survey also covered voting behavior, economic inequality, immigration and social issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage.
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The Pew Research Center Survey of U.S. Jews 2013 is a comprehensive national survey of the Jewish population. The survey explores attitudes, beliefs, practices and experiences of Jews living in the United States. There are two datasets, a respondent dataset (where there is one row per respondent) and a household dataset (where there is one row per person in the sampled households). The respondent dataset includes all of the information collected as part of the survey. The household dataset is a reshaped version of the respondent dataset that includes a limited number of variables describing the demographic characteristics and Jewish status of all of the people in the surveyed households.
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The data result from a mail survey of rabbis conducted in the fall and winter of 2000 in the four major movements of American JudaismConservative, Orthodox, Reconstructionist, and Reform. The first wave was sent two days before the presidential election. The data collection effort loosely paralleled the 2000 Cooperative Clergy Study format but differed in several important respects to capture concerns important to the Jewish community. The survey effort collected data on rabbi political activism, public political speech, political attitudes and electoral choices, thoughts on the role of religion in society, attitudes on issues related to Jewish unity and Jewish law, ratings of and membership in Jewish and secular political organizations, attitudes about Joseph Lieberman, and personal attributes, as well as aspects of congregations.
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Topic: MRI results
My news is not good. My MRI showed new growth. Not huge but my CA-19 is still climbing. Obviously chemo is not working. My doctor said it is amazing that I still have no symptoms of my CC. I feel good off chemo. So we are staying off for a few months. I will see my oncologist every 4 weeks to check my bloodwork. We are focusing now on quality of life, not quantity. I am discouraged when I see how well some of you do on chemo & that it shrinks your tumors! I am happy for you but then I ask "why isn't it working for me"?
I am being referred to USC to get a 2nd opinion regarding surgery. We had gone to UCI and was told no surgery.
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