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Correlation of Auscultatory Severity of Aortic Stenosis With Trans Thoracic Echocardiography (Cassette)
This study has been completed.
United States Naval Medical Center, San Diego
The Geneva Foundation
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First received: May 17, 2012
Last updated: August 17, 2016
Last verified: August 2016
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According to the 2006 ACC/AHA practice guidelines for valvular heart disease, patients with asymptomatic aortic stenosis(AS) should have screening transthoracic echocardiograms (TTE) performed annually for severe disease, every 1-2 years for moderate disease and every 3-5 years for mild disease. This results in a multitude of screening studies in the investigators patient population. 3M has developed a new stethoscope and phonocardiography software capable of identifying the peak intensity of the AS murmur and tracking it as it moves towards the second heart sound potentially indicating increasing severity of disease. Currently there exists no data to demonstrate that the aortic stenosis acceleration index (ASAI) correlates to disease severity or progression of disease. The ASAI measures the timing of the peak intensity of the systolic murmur and compares it to the total time in systole (S2-x/s2-s1) where s1 is the first heart sound; S2 is the second heart sound and x with the time between S1 and the peak intensity of the murmur. In this study the investigators propose to correlate the ASAI to standard TTE measurements of aortic stenosis severity.
|Aortic Stenosis
|Other: Tranthoracic Echocardiogram Device: Cardiac Ascultation Recordings with Electronic stethoscope
|Study Type:
|Study Design:
|Observational Model: Cohort
Time Perspective: Prospective
|Official Title:
|Correlation of Auscultatory Severity of Aortic Stenosis With Trans Thoracic Echocardiography
Resource links provided by NLM:
Genetics Home Reference related topics: supravalvular aortic stenosisU.S. FDA Resources
Further study details as provided by United States Naval Medical Center, San Diego:
Primary Outcome Measures:
- Aortic Stenosis Acceleration Index Compared to Aortic Stenosis Severity [ Time Frame: There is a single measurement taken on the day of enrollment. The ascultatory recording and echocardiogram will occur at the same visit. There will be no additional visits or study followup. ]The ASAI measures the timing of the peak intensity of the systolic murmur and compares it to the total time in systole (S2-x/s2-s1) where s1 is the first heart sound; S2 is the second heart sound and x with the time between S1 and the peak intensity of the murmur. Aortic Stenosis severity will be measured by peak and mean aortic valve gradients as well as aortic valve area derived from the continuity equation. ASAI was averaged and compared to the mean aortic gradient. ROC curve was calculated for ASAI predicting a mean gradient of >30mmHg. ASAI of 34 was determined to provide the optimal combination of specificity and sensitivity and therefore set as the cut off point for significant Aortic Stenosis.
|Study Start Date:
|May 2012
|Study Completion Date:
|June 2013
|Primary Completion Date:
|June 2013 (Final data collection date for primary outcome measure)
|Assigned Interventions
Aortic stenosis patients
Patients with varying degrees of aortic stenosis without significant additional valvular disease will be considered eligible for this study. All participants will recieve a transthoracic echocardiogram and recorded cardiac auscultation.
Other: Tranthoracic Echocardiogram
standard measurementDevice: Cardiac Ascultation Recordings with Electronic stethoscope
3M device
|Ages Eligible for Study:
|18 Years and older (Adult, Senior)
|Sexes Eligible for Study:
|Accepts Healthy Volunteers:
|Sampling Method:
|Non-Probability Sample
Study Population
Patients with Aortic Stenosis seen in the internal medicine clinic at NMCSD
Inclusion Criteria:
- Male and female subjects 18 years of age and older.
- Subjects must have asymptomatic Aortic Stenosis documented by prior echocardiographic examination.
- Subjects must be able to sit for auscultation examination.
- Subject must be able to complete a TTE .
- Subjects must voluntarily agree to participate in the study and sign the informed consent and healthcare information authorization forms.
Exclusion Criteria:
- Subjects with significant additional valvular heart disease.
- Subjects with unrecordable heart sounds.
- Subjects with known or who may have been previously diagnosed with congenital heart disease.
- Subjects with atrial fibrillation.
- Subjects with history of cardiac surgery.
- Subjects who have conditions which the researcher feels may limit the recordability of the heart sounds or the accuracy of the echocardiogram.
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Please refer to this study by its ClinicalTrials.gov identifier: NCT01605669
Please refer to this study by its ClinicalTrials.gov identifier: NCT01605669
|United States, California
|Naval Medical Center San Diego
|San Diego, California, United States, 92134
Sponsors and Collaborators
United States Naval Medical Center, San Diego
The Geneva Foundation
|Principal Investigator:
|William E Bennett, MD
|United States Naval Medical Center, San Diego
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Additional relevant MeSH terms:
ClinicalTrials.gov processed this record on September 21, 2017
BRAUNWALD E, GOLDBLATT A, AYGEN MM, ROCKOFF SD, MORROW AG. Congenital aortic stenosis. I. Clinical and hemodynamic findings in 100 patients. II. Surgical treatment and the results of operation. Circulation. 1963 Mar;27:426-62.
Bonner AJ Jr, Sacks HN, Tavel ME. Assessing the severity of aortic stenosis by phonocardiography and external carotid pulse recordings. Circulation. 1973 Aug;48(2):247-52.
Bonow RO, Carabello BA, Chatterjee K, de Leon AC Jr, Faxon DP, Freed MD, Gaasch WH, Lytle BW, Nishimura RA, O'Gara PT, O'Rourke RA, Otto CM, Shah PM, Shanewise JS; 2006 Writing Committee Members; American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association Task Force. 2008 Focused update incorporated into the ACC/AHA 2006 guidelines for the management of patients with valvular heart disease: a report of the American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association Task Force on Practice Guidelines (Writing Committee to Revise the 1998 Guidelines for the Management of Patients With Valvular Heart Disease): endorsed by the Society of Cardiovascular Anesthesiologists, Society for Cardiovascular Angiography and Interventions, and Society of Thoracic Surgeons. Circulation. 2008 Oct 7;118(15):e523-661. doi: 10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.108.190748. Epub 2008 Sep 26.
|Responsible Party:
|United States Naval Medical Center, San Diego
|ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier:
|NCT01605669 History of Changes
|Other Study ID Numbers:
|Study First Received:
|May 17, 2012
|Results First Received:
|May 17, 2013
|Last Updated:
|August 17, 2016
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|Plan to Share IPD:
Keywords provided by United States Naval Medical Center, San Diego:
Aortic stenosis
computer assisted auscultation
Aortic Stenosis Acceleration Index
Additional relevant MeSH terms:
Constriction, Pathologic
Aortic Valve Stenosis
Pathological Conditions, Anatomical
Heart Valve Diseases
Heart Diseases
Cardiovascular Diseases
Ventricular Outflow Obstruction
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I haven't updated my Google (GOOG) work here in a while.
The last time we looked at it was after a healthy decline was seen after an earnings report. That is when I started running the Fibonacci price relationships on the weekly chart looking for where we might bottom. We saw an initial rally from one of the first support zones that was followed by another low into the next key weekly support decision. Since then we've had a pretty healthy rally and see the upside potential all the way to the $812 area.
Let's take a look at the daily chart next.
Looking at the daily chart, notice that price is above both the 200 and 50 SMAs. Also note that the May 13 ema crossover is also on the side of the bulls.
For more information on the daily moving averages, please refer to this recent article.
This tells me that the highest probability trade setups are still on the buy side in GOOG.
Now, let's take it down to my actual 60-minute setup chart where we can really refine our risk for a trade here.
There are a few things that I like on this 60-minute chart of GOOG. First, we have a price cluster decision that includes symmetry projections. This zone comes in at the $704.99-707.09 area. The second thing is the time symmetry. This is where I've illustrated that the prior declining swings on this chart are rather similar or equal. We had a 28-, 27- and 33-bar decline in the past. The recent low has been made at 27 bars down from the most recent high. The setup is to be a buyer in GOOG as long as price continues to hold above the $704.99-707.09 (give or take a little) when an entry is triggered on a lower time frame chart. For example, you might use a 5-minute chart to use this zone for a daytrade.
For more information please refer to my recent guidelines article.
If this same key support is violated by a decent margin, I will back off the buy side until further notice.

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Ghost is an Eau de Toilette which is available in a 30ml bottle priced at £24.50, and 50ml bottle priced at £33.50, or a 100ml bottle priced at £45.50.
My thoughts
I've never really liked the bottle of this perfume, I find it really plain and boring. The colour is like a really pale grey blue and the shape is nothing to talk about, it just isn't interesting in any way to me.
The fragrance is described as a timeless, feminine and romantic, soft floral, which surrounds the wearer with an aura of sensuality and femininity. I think that is probably a good description of it to be fair, it's quite fitting.
The top notes are rose and jasmine, the mid notes are amber, vanilla and peach, and the base notes are sandalwood and musk. Personally I find it's the warmer notes in this scent that comes through the most - the vanilla, sandalwood and musk, while the lighter florals take a backseat, and the peach is not detectable at all.
I do quite like this scent, it's quite a light musky oriental feeling scent, but I wouldn't say there's anything special about it, or anything really to set it apart from other perfumes. It's quite similar to others I've used. It is, as described, quite a classic scent, which I don't think would be likely to appeal to anyone under the age of 30. Other than that though it would suit anyone really.
It's quite a versatile scent too, as it's light enough to be worn during the day without seeming out of place or over the top, but can also easily hold it's own on a night out. I use just a couple of sprays and it gives a nice amount of fragrance, any more than that and it becomes a little heavy and begins to give me a headache.
Aside from the fact that it's an easily forgettable scent, the main thing that lets this fragrance down is it's lack of staying power. I find it fades pretty quickly and after just a couple of hours I'm really struggling to detect any hint of it, so it needs topping up regularly.
No, I wouldn't recommend this scent as I find it's very similar to others out there which have better staying power.
Ghost Eau de Toilette
Personally I am big fan of 'Ghost', as far as I am aware a scent that has been around for years. The scent comes in a wonderful elegant looking bottle - It i tall, and slim, and it curves inwards in the middle. This detail gives the packaging a wonderful silhouette. The glass seems to be a pale blue colour, but this may just be down to the frosting on the bottle -overall this adds a lovely ephemeral look to the bottle, that does tie in well with its name sake.
The bottle has a simple pump dispenser, which is access by removing the top of the bottle - Personally I tend to use about 3 - 5 squirts (neck, elbows and wrists) - generally sprayed over pulse points, as I have been told this makes the scent more likely to last.
The top notes of the fragrance are rose and jasmine - the floral scents really do come through in the scent, and they are very evident when the perfume is first sprayed. This is I think what attracts me to the perfume, as they are wonderful and light, and to be honest I'm a big fan of all things that smell light and summery.
The heart notes of the scent are amber, vanilla and peach. This has surprised me, as I would have said that I don't like vanilla as a scent as I find it too sickly sweet. However after doing a bit of research into some of my favorite perfumes it seems to feature rather frequently. I find that there is a lovely sweet scent to this perfume, the peach to me is the predominant smell to me at this stage of the scent developing.
The base notes of the perfume are sandalwood and musk. This allows the fragrance to 'mellow' out to something a little deeper, and longer lasting than the floral, fruity notes that come through at first.
Overall I feel the perfume lasts well, and it will usually last most of the working day for me. It definitely last all night if I have gone out for the evening. In circumstances such as an all day / night even such as a wedding I tend to reapply - but that is a personal preference rather than a need.
The 30ml bottle seems to be available widely (online - August 2013) at £20, and the 50ml for just under £30 - which to me is a great price. The perfume lasts well, and always gets me compliments when I have it on. It is one of my boyfriends favorites - which is definitely a positive thing, as he loves to tactfully call one of my perfumes 'eu da cat wee'...
I'd definitely recommend this perfume, as it is a wonderful scent. I fell it works well in the summer or the winter, although I personally prefer it as a day fragrance, rather than a night scent.
5 *'s from me.
I love the fragrances from the Ghost range, and the first one I discovered which drew me into this brand was the original Ghost Eau de Toilette. I seem to remember smelling this on a work colleague, and asking what she was wearing. That was a couple of years ago, and after I asked my parents for a bottle for my birthday not long after that, they very generously bought the biggest bottle available, so it has taken me a fair while to get through it!
The cheapest price I can source for this perfume is online at www.fragrancedirect.co.uk. I think in comparison to a lot of perfumes, this one is very reasonably priced.
30ml £19.95
50ml £26.95
100ml £39.95
The perfume is described as romantic on feminine on the Fragrance Direct product description, and the notes are listed below:
Top notes - hibiscus, rose petals and ambrette grains (no, I don't know what they are either!)
Heart notes - jasmine, sandalwood, frankincense tones
Base notes - vanilla, musk, ambergris and apricots
The bottle is a lovely simple and elegant design, which curves inwards in the middle giving a lovely shape to it. It has a frosted blue tint to it, and although it's not overly adventurous it's quite distinctive and I would recognise this anywhere. The lid covers the nozzle, but has a hole in the middle, so you can still see the top of the nozzle through the middle. I never feel that the lid is fully secure for some reason, although I have travelled with this perfume and never had any leakages.
==My Experience==
I find this perfume incredibly distinctive, and I can immediately recognise it if someone else is wearing it. It isn't for the shy or faint hearted, as it's quite strong and not particularly subtle. It's a very difficult fragrance to describe, because looking at the list of notes above, I would find it very difficult to either recognise or pinpoint these notes in the fragrance. On first spray, it's very strong, and the overriding scent I can detect is musk, mixed in with roses. This is a little confusing because the musk is a base note and shouldn't be evident until the fragrance has settled, but personally, I can detect it immediately. It's a very fresh, summery fragrance, and also has a hint of spiciness about it. I tend to wear it for evenings rather than daytime, as it can be a bit heavy.
Once the perfume has settled a bit, the spiciness is dispersed and we're left with a distinctive mix of musk and florals. I must admit I can't detect vanilla or apricots, and I wouldn't know what ambergris or frankincense smell like, but I guess all these elements combine together to give it the distinctive fragrance which is unlike any other I've known. The perfume does change throughout the day, and although it's still evident several hours later, it is a muted version of itself, and calms down to a fainter fragrance by this time. Longevity is good with this perfume, although I fear if you tried to use it to freshen up once the scent begins to fade, you would potentially be risking overkill as this is such a strong fragrance.
This is a very difficult fragrance to describe, but I would recommend it to people who like musky, spicy fragrances, and also florals which aren't too girly or sickly. I wouldn't let the vanilla or apricots put you off because these are barely noticeable, although I'm sure all the elements combined are responsible for giving this fragrance its distinctive edge. Four stars from me, because I find it a bit heavy going to be wearing in the daytime, and I have to be in a certain mood to fancy wearing this one.
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This is to me one of the original and best perfumes; it was first sold in 1999, and is a regular fixture in many of the miniature sets that are old at Christmas time.
=The Bottle=
The bottle reminds me at first of the art deco sector, of elegance and classic moments. The bottle is glass and is a very pale blue shade. The bottle almost reminds me of a body as you can see a nipped in waist shape, the base has a thicker texture to the bottle, but this doesn't detract from the bottle. It has the word Ghost wrote in silver at the bottom of the bottle. The lid is silver colour screw top; the top fits in line with shape and the art deco theme of bottle.
=The Fragrance=
The fragrance of Ghost to me is light and fresh, it is a very feminine smell, but for those who like a heavy based perfume I would say this is not the one for you.
Back to the perfume, the base notes of Ghost include incense, sandalwood, vanilla, musk and amber, these produce a sweet smell but with the undertones of the musk and sandalwood this also gives a woody smell, so you do get a good range of smells from the base notes. The heart notes, I find this is the fruity layer of the perfume this has jasmine, apricot and hibiscus, whilst the top notes has a rose and a ambrette seeds, although I found the rose to be the stronger of the two elements.
Overall all elements of the perfume come together very well, as from the moment you spray you soon smell the roses and as the time goes on the perfume develops the different layers to the perfume.
Although this is a good mix of tones the perfume overall is a light fragrance, and for me is a day fragrance, when you something light, but almost understated. I tend to spray my wrists but also put a spot on to my cuffs if I have a shirt or jumper on, to bring an added depth to the perfume.
As well as the small bottles that come on the gift sets, Ghost is also available in a 30ml EDT and 50EDT with prices ranging from £24 to £38 depending on the size of the bottle, the shop and whether you buy the gift set, which includes the Body Lotion, Which is equally as beautiful.
=Would I recommend=
I would highly recommend this perfume, it is a fresh fragrance, light for a day time use, and this would suit most age groups as it could equally be carried off by a person in their 20s or equally someone on their 60s.
I love perfumes and had received this one as a gift. I loved the design of the bottle and even more the smell. It smells even better when you use the body lotion and then the perfume. This also makes the smell last longer. I love the fact that people comment on how nice you smell and ask what you have on. It is a floral fragrance which includes Jasmine, Rose petals and vanilla, sandal wood and hibiscus with a hint of musk. It is a long lasting perfume (the smell), but the bottle didn't last me long, so really would recommend the bigger size bottle. Ghost has a really fresh smell, it is not an expensive perfume either, so it is a great price as well. If i had to summarize this product into one sentence would be fresh and good value for money. (Online prices seem cheaper than the actual shops)
This is a great little scent that will not break the bank, I paid £38.99 for a 100ml bottle so you get a lot of perfume for your money, you can also get this in a 50ml and 30ml bottle as well but these while cheaper do not work out as such good value.
I like the sleek design of this eau de toilette bottle, nice curved lines that taper in from a wide base to then flare out again towards the top of the bottle, it is a slim but tall bottle and is made from frosted glass to give it a ghostly feel. The silver lettering is a nice touch as well, the spray button is contained within the silver lid as is the dispensing nozzle that emits a nice fine spray.
For those who are not a fan of vanilla in a fragrance then this may not be for them, I'm not a massive fan but I find that it does work in some combinations and this is one of them. The top notes in this scent are primarily jasmine and rose which give it a slightly exotiv flowery burst when first applied to my skin. The middle notes are where the vanilla comes through and there is also peach and amber and then the base notes are sandalwood and musk. There is a definate woody base to this fragrance that is quite rich and distinctive and these work well with the jasmine and vanilla that give it a floral feel along with the rose and overall they combine to provide quite a mature and lovely fragrance.
This is an excellent fragrance as it has really good staying power and was still going strong after eight hours and was still detectable after ten hours of wear which is pretty good in my opinion. There is a nice warmth to this fragarnce and it is very feminine despite the woody over tones that the sandalwood and musk provide. I prefer it is a day scent but it is very versatile and I do wear it out of an evening as well. This is certainly an affordable fragrance with good staying power especially for an eau de toilette.
My sister spoilt me this Christmas (as usual) and one of the gifts that she bought me was a Ghost fragrance gift set, which has a body lotion and a 30ml bottle of the eau de toilette in it.
I was aware of the fragrance and had seen it in the shops, but had never tried it before.
~ Bottle ~
The bottle is instantly recognisable as Ghost.
It is made from frosted glass and is cylindrical, but it tapers near the bottom of the bottle and then gets wider at the base.
The word 'GHOST' is written in silver lettering at the very bottom of the bottle. The fragrance is a clear liquid and colourless, not how some websites show it as a blue liquid.
The lid is a matte silver colour and it is cylindrical. It has a hole in the middle and it sits around the spray button on the top of the bottle rather than going over the top of it and completely covering it.
The top of the lid and the spray button are made from shiny silver metal.
~ Scent ~
This scent is gorgeous.
The top notes are rose and jasmine.
The heart notes are amber, vanilla and peach.
The base notes are sandalwood and musk.
I find this a very difficult scent to describe. I can pick out the rose, vanilla and sandalwood. It has a fresh fruitiness that I wouldn't be able to pick out as peach in particular.
The woody base is actually one of the most easily detected woody notes that I have been able to pick out in any fragrance, but the floral note of rose is very present in the fragrance as well.
It is a really interesting combination of notes and I really love it!
Although it is quite a woody scent, it is still very feminine with its pretty floral notes.
I have only worn this fragrance once as I received 5 perfumes for Christmas this year and was eager to try them all.
I found that it is very long lasting and has good sillage, even though it is an eau de toilette rather than an eau de parfum. It was still evident a good 12 hours after application.
I don't think you can get this as an eau de parfum, but this eau de toilette does the job well enough.
I am absolutely thrilled with this fragrance and I am considering promoting it to being my signature scent.
~ Price and availability ~
A quick check online tells me that a 30ml bottle of Ghost eau de toilette will cost you £21.94 with a recommended retail price of £25.00 from www.cheapsmells.com.
A 50ml bottle is £26.30 (RRP £32.50) on cheapsmells.com.
A 100ml bottle is £35.95 (RRP £44.50) on cheapsmells.com.
The fragrance is also available from Boots, Superdrug, Amazon, The Perfume Shop, Argos, Debenhams and many more stores and online shops.
~ Conclusion ~
I really love this scent. It is absolutely gorgeous.
I will definitely buy another bottle of this fragrance once I have used mine up, but until then I will savour every drop.
It has great sillage and is very long lasting.
I would definitely recommend it either for yourself or as a gift. I was certainly thrilled to receive this.
I urge anyone who has not tried this to try it out. There would be no harm in trying out one of the testers next time you're in Boots.
I received a set of 'mini' fragrances for Christmas that contained 5 different perfumes/eau de toilettes. One of those contained within the set was Ghost The Fragrance by Ghost. The bottle was essentially a mini version of the one that you can buy - made of cloudy glass and shaped in the same way - a kind of 'indented' bottle with the sides curving in - meant to mirror a woman's body. A 50ml bottle costs around £25.
I find the scent of this really fresh and original. It is light enough to wear in the day but also good for evening wear, although not as 'dramatic' as I like for a full blown night out. The top notes are Ambrette seeds and rose, middle notes are jasmine, hibiscus and apricot. The base notes are sandalwood, vanilla, musk and amber. I would describe the scent as fresh and floral rather than fruity. I definitely cannot detect the vanilla in this (I am not a fan of vanilla so if this was obvious, it would put me off). The fragrance is very unique and identifiable - you can tell instantly if someone else is wearing this - but it is hard to describe exactly what the scent is. I do not find it to have any one dominant scent, just a unique blend.
For me, the scent does not last as long as I would like. I find that, when first applied, it is quite strong (although, importantly, it is not overbearing or overpowering) but this soon fades into a very delicate fragrance. I usually feel the need to reapply after 3-4 hours though, so a bottle wouldn't last me that long, especially as it's a great everyday perfume. For the price it retails at, this could work out expensive - I usually squirt 3 or 4 times per application to get a decent level of scent.
Overall, this is a really unique scent that I do really like. It has become my favourite scents and the one I now wear most frequently (I have since purchased a full bottle having been impressed with my trial sized version). I do think that it is a scent I may become sick of in time but, for now, it is my scent of choice and, as such, I recommend it highly.
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My name is Anna Louise. My favourite of my senses is smell... I know-what a curious and verging on the ridiculous thing to say I hear some doubters saying! ...But if you do understand me, you know what a thrill a fragrance can be. Its really inexplicable to me how just a concoction of fragrant notes can create hugely different and amazing fragrances to suit every occasion, mood, and create or add to memories, but ohhhhh they can! Hey I'll tell you now I know nothing technical about perfume, its creation nor production I only know what I like...
Ghost The Fragrance Eau de Toilette Spray for Women
My love affair with Ghost is a long one- I have loved it for some 10 years or more. It was the first fragrance I really recognised-its fairly populist and sometimes you smell it on people around the place- and appealed to me so much that I always wanted some in the house. I associate Ghost with so many of my happy memories of the past. I discovered it prior to my A levels and it became a friend to me who I would meet with daily through my formative years at university-probably wore it too much! My friends may not have known it as Ghost but knew the scent of it was me and mine.My room in halls became synonomous with it, sometimes when I was particularly homesick (which wasnt often admittedly) I would spritz it. I'm not a stylish gal- it perhaps seemed a little strange to some that I went around in jeans and scruffy practical jumpers but smelt positively angelic! It has always been so reassuring a scent for me, and its difficult to know why. Now it evokes such memories, I find it difficult to be objective about what it is thats so special about it-to me it is about memories, my first love and special moments.
The scent-well I suppose I would describe it as musky, a subtle floral combination, lightly fruited and vanilley. lt doesn't sound particulalry special but it thrills me as an everyday, or a really special occasion perfume. Ive just looked into its website-it has Top notes of Rose Petal and Ambrette Seed, Heart notes of white flowers, jasmine,sandalwod and incense, and Base notes of Vanilla, Musk, Amber and Apricot. Delicious. If i was going to a wedding it would be Ghost I'd wear every time-to me its love in a scent. It's so romantic and for me nostalgic. The bottle is elegant- a classic hourglass shape but slim tall and slender,like a female figure I suppose. It sparkles and it is a subtle blue/silvery colour. I like that its not overstated, its simple demure. The EDT is sold in different sizes-30ml,50ml, and 100ml, and you can also get a gift set which I oft try and source at Christmas. That tends to contain either a 200ml body lotion or shower gel. The body lotion too is divine, so sumptuous and luxurious on the skin-to be convered in the scent is lush. Its a decent enough price as it is, but I recommend Superdrug for more competitive prices, great staff and beauty points ;p.
The website refers to it as being about the 'Sublime moments between dreaming and awakening'. This gives me an element of understanding about why it appeals to me and my personality so much. It is sublime, and I have always been a bit of a dreamer, I daydream and I rumenate in and out of obscure and unsusual ideas, romantic hopes and dreams. Its not for everyone but give it a go if youre a daydreamer I'd say.
I first tried Ghost 3 years ago when my sister badgered me into getting her some for Christmas (we alway get each other perfume at Christmas so we have the one we like for the coming year).
I'd see it before at Duty Free, but I can't say it ever stood out. Maybe because I tend to get over excited in the Duty Free and come out smelling like a whores-handbag!
Anyway little sis was raving about it so I had a cheeky sniff when I went to buy it....WOW!
It's sweet, It's musty, It's floral...It's amazing! Needless-to-say I quickly changed last years order with my Sis (much to her disgust!).
Since I've been wearing it (literally as I spray it on my clothes rather than my skin, due to allergies) I have had maybe 30 people comment on it - which is the important thing. Yes, the packaging is pretty (as it ought to be if the rumors of it costing more than the perfume are true), but for me if other people (mainly men) like it (and I don't have to keep re-applying) then it's a winner.
Any bad points?
I guess so...I've nearly finished the Christmas bottle, I'm shopping around for more, but it seems to be at Christmas prices for the whole year! Ouch. My friends keeping nicking it every time they come around my house. My little sis has the hump with me for smelling the same as her (all is fair in love, war and perfume!)
Overall a great (as perfume can be) buy! My order for next year is already in!
I'm not the best at choosing perfumes, never quite know what ones will "suit" me or if they smell good to start with but just get a bit sickly and horrible after a while. I was given this perfume as a christmas gift from my auntie last year, she has a good nose for things and has bough me perfumes before and they have always been lovely.
The ghost perfume comes in a glass bottle around 5 inches tall and contains 30ml of perfume. The glass has a slightly blueish tinge and the bottle looks very stylish. The shape of the bottle is a sort of hourglass figure and has a silver lid with a typical perfume squirty top. The bottle itself comes packaged in a blueish cardboard rectangular box which has "Ghost" written on the front of it. The bottle has "Ghost" written in silver letters at the bottom of the bottle. Although it was a gift I did have a quick look at prices for all you dooyooers, expect to pay around £20-25 for a bottle which I feel is a very reasonable price.
Now comes the hard part, how does it smell, a very difficult thing to describe.....to me it smells lovely and to my auntie I'm sure it smelt lovely too or else she wouldn't have bought it! But I think with any perfume you should smell it before you buy it because something that smells lovely to one person might smell horrible to someone else there's no way to tell if your going to like it without giving it a sniff!
Ok here goes.... I would say the scent of the Ghost perfume is very light and musky, it is not an overpowering smell and as long as you don't put too much on people wont be able to smell you somewhere long after you have been there. The smell seems to have a hint of flowers too it without being too sweet, sickly or cheap smelling. Id say this isnt a very "young" smelling perfume, I'm 26 and it is fine for me, but it might not be to the taste of teenagers or younger people than me, its a tough thing to judge though as everyone has different tastes. The scent lasts well also, if I am wearing it all day I just need one spray of it in the morning and that lasts me the day, if I'm using it for a night out I tend to put a bit more on. I don't were perfume all that often so I reckon this bottle will last me a couple of years but its such a reasonable price that if you are a more heavy user then it is not too expensive to get some more.
I would definitely recommend this perfume, or at least recommend you go out and have a smell of it and see if you like it. It has a great smell, has a nice stylish bottle and is a great price as welll!
I love this perfume and don't know what i will do if they ever discontinue it (often happens when you find something thats just perfect for you!).
This perfume comes in a simple bottle, a nice 'ghostly' colour and i do think the packaging suits the name and i think the name suits the fragrance.
The perfume has a light and fresh smell that i find is really good for day wear. It is non sticky to wear (a definate plus i kid you not having worn some perfumes that do actually make me sticky!). Its really hard to describe how a perfume actually smells when it is a light one, but this is a clean, fresh smelling scent that is not too heavy. Even though i say it is light, everybody, and i mean everybody comments on how nice i smell! They ask me what i'm wearing, and some even say 'are you wearing ghost?'. So it is definately distinctive as a fragrance, but loved by all who smell me! To test this theory, i have changed perfume and nobody says a word. I don't know if this is just so very perfect with my particular Ph level (as we are all different and it does actually change they way things smell on you), or just an all round winner. I think it is also reasonably priced and never have to juggle my finances to purchase a new bottle when i run out.
I received this as a gift from my boyfriend for Christmas - he chose it because (I may be paraphrasing) 'You have pale skin like a ghost'. In fact he didn't even test it in the store, so he really was basing it on the name. You can imagine my delight - I kid, for him to even go into a store that sells beauty products is so far removed from his comfort zone that I was relatively impressed. Oh, and the perfume hasn't disappointed either.
Ghost comes in a very elegant looking box with the name written across the from. The bottle is an hourglass shape made from frosted glass. It has the name across the bottom in tiny silver letters and a silver plastic circular lid. The pump is silver metal which works exactly as it should - dispensing an even amount of perfume which disperses to cover a large area of skin. The bottle is quite narrow looking and I initially thought it was a relatively small perfume but at 30ml it is quite average. The frosted glass gives a lovely elegant look and is also very useful for seeing how much perfume you have left. The liquid inside is clear so overall the colour palette is mainly silver and white/translucent - fitting in with the name.
The fragrance is not something I would typically purchase for myself. I like really fresh, feminine floral scents which smell quite classic. This is quite an alternative and distinctive smell but yet still quite subtle. It is described as 'a timeless, feminine and romantic soft floral', but honestly I don't really pick up on any floral notes - it mostly smells lightly musky. This isn't a criticism, I think the smell is very distinctive and pleasant and it makes a nice change to have something a little alternative to my other fragrances. Even nicer to have something my boyfriend has specifically chosen (not that he smelt it before purchase) and whenever I wear it he always picks up on it. The core notes are hibiscus, rose petals, and musk with undertones of jasmine, spicy sandalwood, and warm incense. There are overtones of vanilla, musk, ambergris, and apricot which finish off the scent. I think having read the notes in the perfume I do recognise some of these smells - it is certainly musky but in a very mellow way. It does always smell fruity and has the warmth of vanilla and spices which gives it the distinctive smell I really like. Overall, the smell is very feminine but with an edge that sets it apart from my standard floral fragrance.
This is a relatively cheap perfume for a designer brand - 30 ml retails roughly at £25.00. I have been using the perfume for 2/3 months and am probably a quarter of the way through (although it can be tricky to tell because of the tapering of the bottle in the middle). I am not sure whether I would purchase this for myself but I would certainly be happy to receive it as a gift. It is never going to be my signature scent but it gives my regular perfumes a break and adds something a little different to the mix.
Ultimately it is a very lovely perfume with a distinctive and yet subtle smell which sets it apart.
Created in 1999, Ghost is a floral fragrance that combines jasmine with rose petals and blends soft vanilla and earthy sandalwood, hibiscus with a hint of musk / This fabulous scent will surround you in a pleasurable wisk of freshness, ideal for every day wear / Lure in your love with GhoSt. Top Notes: Peach, ambrette seed and rose / Heart Notes: Jasmine, apricot and hibiscus / Base Notes: Sandalwood, vanilla musk and incense /


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@ChrisBHaynes: Nicolas Batum says he injured his lower back going for a rebound in the 1st Q. He landed on his heel wrong and it shot up to his back.
I love Croshere. He has so much to say after plays being finished.
Proud owner of 'Dutch Pacers'
If games are won and lost on a calculator and piece of paper, then why do we bother to play them?
The biggest thing I've noticed about Paul George this season has been his confidence. Regardless of whether he IS a markedly better ball-handler this year, he FEELS like he is, and I think a lot of his increased aggressiveness is the product that belief. More broadly, this entire team is really starting to play with a lot of confidence - something which obviously bodes well.
Here is our schedule for the rest of the month:
CLE (below .500)
@DET (below .500)
@MIL (below .500)
@CLE (below .500)
@NOH (below .500)
CHI (below .500)
PHO (below .500)
A lot of very winnable games in this upcoming stretch. 7 games with teams under .500. Of the 6 games versus teams above .500, only 2 are on the road. For a team rapidly gaining confidence, this is a crucial stretch in our season. If we can rattle off 9 or 10 wins I'd be thrilled.
props to Gerald Green. Real nice game by him. Good defensive rotations and focus. Caused one 24-second violation all by himself.
Sir Allen Connor is the BEST NBA referee name. EVER.
"Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel
"And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "
Paul George is playing good at a position many thought he wasn't able to play at, by the way his value has never been this high.
Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.
Has anyone notice how much better we pass? It's so simple, but the pumpkin is actually hittin numbers half the time.
Can anybody explain how that works? Hibbert 14mil, Hill 8mil, West 12mil?, Ian 4mil, Green 3 mil and Danny 14, can the Pacers pay Paul George anything close to what Batum is making?
A total of 57mil for all those players mentioned without Paul George.
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Usually, when I see Lance play.....he waits along the perimeter for the ball....if he gets it...he will either shoot the 3pt shot ( if he's open ) or scan the perimeter to pass it along to someone else.
However.....when Lance actually drives to the hoop...he is able to create for others.
There were 2 plays with Lance where he drove to the hoop...drew the attention of the defense...and he kicked the ball out at the last second to GH ( in one play ) and to Hibbert ( in another ). Both plays......GH and Hibbert weren't able to hit the shot....IMHO because they weren't ready for the shot.
I will do the same thing that is always said in the Post-Game Thread......Free Lance.....he's good at driving to and attacking the basket while creating shots for others. They just need to be ready for the ball...cuz there is a good chance of Lance passing it to you.
Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.
But I think that the only way that we keep a Starting lineup of GH/PG/Granger/Hibbert/West next season is if that lineup gives us a very deep 2nd round Playoff run or even an ECF appearance.
Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.
Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.
Anyway the Pacers don't have the money to pay Paul George, pay him as an all star and keep everybody else.
Just want to give huge props to Paul George. Really proud of the way he has played of the last 2 games and the most exciting part about it is he seems to be figuring "IT" out. A lot of people were hoping his 9 3 point shot game was possibly his coming out party game, and while that was fun to watch I was a little less enthused about the idea that that game was the type of performance that could get PG to the next level as a player. Simply because the way he scored all his points that game were from unconscious 3 point shooting (9 of 13) which is basically unrepeatable when you consider how great Reggie was from down town and his career high was 8 it is probably a fairly safe assumption that PG will never hit 9 again in his career. However, these last 2 games have shown a side of PGs game that can be repeated on a more consistent basis, he showed some post up game, he has shown his mid-range game last couple games (which before these 2 games was woefully missing), and he has shown a lot more aggression driving to the basket. I really hope he keeps feeding off these 2 great performances and starts showing the consistency all us Pacers fans have been yearning to see for a while now.
Its funny you don't really pay attention to it unless its as terrible as it was in the beginning of the season. But we have definitely improved. David West is an amazing passer right now, PG is definitely better, and both Hill and Lance had some great passes today.


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Otley 29, Wharfedale 34
This season's Yorkshire Cup has taken a bit of a battering, with Otley receiving walkovers into the semi-final and Hull conceding a quarter-final to Bradford & Bingley.
However, a bit of lustre was returned to 'T'owd Tin Pot' tonight after an entertaining final on a perfect night on a perfect pitch at Wagon Lane.
A crowd of over 500 witnessed a match where Wharfedale threatened to take charge but could never quite shake off dogged opponents Otley.
The Greens counter-attacked when Otley lost the ball on the Dalesmen's 22 in the second minute, full back Tom Barrett scoring and converting after a sweeping move down the left.
Otley fly half Mark Ireland landed a penalty two minutes later but Wharfedale capitalised on what coach Jon Feeley called an outstanding half-hour with a try for flanker Jack Barnard after good work by teenage winger Taylor Prell and centre Will Bell, Barrett converting and adding a drop goal for 17-3.
It seemed like the one-division advantage that the Greens had would hold sway, and by half-time their lead was still 24-10 after a converted try by Otley scrum half Steve Depledge was matched by one from the Greens via winger Josh Prell – Taylor's elder brother.
The match had 33 free-kicks or penalties but no yellow cards, but it still had plenty of attacking intent, although nothing came of clean breaks by Wharfedale scrum half Phil Woodhead and Depledge in the opening moments of the second half.
If there was an element of fortune about the way Depledge's pass bounced up for James White's try in the 54th minute, the centre running through a chasm in the middle of Wharfedale's defence, there was much to admire about how Otley refused to allow the Greens to pull away.
Barnard's second try had surely given the Dalesmen an unassailable 31-17 lead just inside the hour but the Cross Greeners responded two minutes later with a converted try by right winger Harry Hudson.
Barrett's 76th-minute penalty steadied the Greens' ship but back came Otley in stoppage time with an Ireland try and conversion to leave the final margin at a mere five points.
Maybe there is still life in a competition that was first won by Halifax in 1878.


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Living the Dream
Jeff Bridges' Oscar win for Crazy Heart in 2010 led to the fulfillment of a teenage fantasy to be a Rock star
"I'm living my teenage dream," Jeff Bridges says gleefully, hoisting a Gibson acoustic guitar over his head in a one-armed victory salute as a Las Vegas crowd cheers.
Bridges and his band, the Abiders, have just closed out an alternately bright, bluesy and energetic 90-minute set with a blistering version of The Byrds' 1967 hit "So You Wanna Be a Rock 'n' Roll Star." The show has included everything from the country twang of Bridges' Otis "Bad" Blake character in Crazy Heart to a Bob Dylan song ("The Man in Me") associated with The Big Lebowski, to Credence Clearwater Revival's "Lookin' Out My Back Door."
As the crowd stands and applauds, Bridges utters a thank you and smiles. Living the dream, indeed. Earlier this day, Bridges stood on the triangular stage, which was wedged into a corner of the Chrome Room at Santa Fe Station Casino, part of the sprawl on the northwest outskirts of Las Vegas. Sipping a hot tea after taking time for his vocal exercises, his silvery hair pulled back in a bun, jeans, brown T-shirt, glasses on his nose, he looked like a dad (or, in Bridges' case, granddad) wandering the aisles at Home Depot.
It was the sound check before the show and Bridges was squeezing for all the time he could get to balance the sound in an unfamiliar venue. He and his band quickly got down to work, starting most of the songs from that night's show and playing them long enough to make sure the sound levels were balanced in the monitors for Bridges and guitarist-bandleader Chris Pelonis. They took the opportunity to rehearse their phrasing and timing on a refrain of "She Lay Her Whip Down," one of several songs written by Bridges' childhood friend John Goodwin.
That night, his hair a shoulder-length silver mane, Bridges obviously enjoys himself as a singer and bandleader. The show is the first of two by Bridges and the Abiders in Vegas this particular weekend, toward the end of a month-long spring tour that has taken the band from Seattle to Portland to Tucson and Phoenix before hitting Vegas. After almost a dozen shows in just three weeks, the talented band has an obvious polish, along with the enthusiasm of musicians who enjoy playing together. And they're led by a guy who looks like he can't quite believe he's having this much fun, fronting a band, headlining a pair of sold-out rooms in Las Vegas.
The crowd at the Chrome Room is primed; Bridges doesn't disappoint, playing a friendly set that includes a dozen and a half songs, most of them either from the film Crazy Heart (in which Bridges played country singer "Bad" Blake) or one of Bridges' two albums. A plurality of the songs was written by Bridges' pals Goodwin and the late Stephen Bruton. He even sings a witty tune, "Van Gogh in Hollywood," from the little-seen Terry Gilliam film, Tideland: "Anybody see that?" Bridges asks the crowd, his smile turning skeptical when someone applauds. "Really? I played a carcass for most of that movie."
Afterward, Bridges unwinds in the backstage dressing room with a glass of wine. He has always played music, he notes, joining in weekly jam sessions for years after high school with his high-school friends: "One rule—no songs allowed. But singing was encouraged. They were these fucking wild jams."
He wavered early on in his acting career between acting and music. Movie success had come quickly—an Oscar nomination for The Last Picture Show, his first major film role at 21. But Bridges confided to his father, actor Lloyd Bridges, that he was thinking of putting acting aside to pursue playing music for a living instead. His father's advice: Stay an actor—and make movies where you play musicians.
Which he has—in the Oscar-nominated The Fabulous Baker Boys and again in Crazy Heart, for which Bridges won his own long-deserved Oscar, as an aging singer whose self-destructive spiral is approaching a crisis point. Bridges has recorded two albums and has a studio in his Santa Barbara home.
In fact, Bridges found the Abiders through Pelonis, who Bridges initially hired to design his home recording studio. When he met Pelonis, they began talking about music—and then playing music together.
"I played Chris some of my songs and he said, 'You know, my friend Michael McDonald might like some of these,' and we ended up producing my first album, 'Be Here Soon,' with Michael," Bridges says. "Then when Crazy Heart took off, I figured that, if I'm ever going to do the music thing and fulfill that teenage dream, now was the time or forever hold your peace. When I talked about putting together a band, Chris brought me the cream of Santa Barbara."
Assembling and executing a tour with a band is as much of a production as making a movie: "You really do need that much time to figure out the material and rehearse it," Bridges says. He decided to rehearse and tour because he spent most of 2012 in front of cameras.
"I did two movies in a row last year, which was a challenge. I was away from my wife the whole time; it was a hard movie year," he says. "So I thought, OK, I want to take a year to do other things. I wanted to do music, but I just became a grandfather and I wanted time to do that, too. My granddaughter calls me 'Dude-pa'. It's been shortened to Doody—I hope like Howdy Doody, not dog doody."
Playing music onstage, he says, is not all that different from acting in films: "Every night is like going out and doing a major scene or a play. It's always that moment just before you do it that's hardest. You want it to be effortless; the same thing with a movie. You expend a lot of effort to create the illusion that there was no effort."
Comparing notes after the first Vegas show, Bridges and Pelonis agree the best moments onstage are the ones in which they're so caught up in the music that they lose track of everything else for a moment.
"He'll start taking off with a guitar part and I'll get so into it that I'll forget where I am—both physically and where I am in the song," Bridges says.
"Yeah," Pelonis says, "you get to a point where you suddenly think, 'How did I get here?' "
"It happens in acting, too," Bridges says. "You channel a thing and allow it to come in."
"Yeah," Pelonis says, "you get to a point where you suddenly think, 'How did I get here?' "
"It happens in acting, too," Bridges says. "You channel a thing and allow it to come in."
At the urging of his longtime friend and musical mentor T-Bone Burnett, Bridges began seeing a voice specialist before he shot Crazy Heart. She gave him a set of exercises to learn vocal technique that produces a stronger, better-modulated sound.
"If I was playing a sword fighter, I'd take fencing lessons," Bridges says. "So when I played "Bad" Blake, I had vocal lessons, and took guitar lessons from Stephen Bruton. You train for something like that, or for a tour like this. With music, you have to get up to speed, to practice and get in shape. And you have to maintain a level of practice if you want to perform. Someone asked Willie Nelson one time why he played so much. And he said, 'I'm afraid the muscle memory will go.' I consider myself pretty green at this. So this is quite a challenge."
"If I was playing a sword fighter, I'd take fencing lessons," Bridges says. "So when I played "Bad" Blake, I had vocal lessons, and took guitar lessons from Stephen Bruton. You train for something like that, or for a tour like this. With music, you have to get up to speed, to practice and get in shape. And you have to maintain a level of practice if you want to perform. Someone asked Willie Nelson one time why he played so much. And he said, 'I'm afraid the muscle memory will go.' I consider myself pretty green at this. So this is quite a challenge."
Pelonis interrupts him: "I don't think you can say that anymore. You're a veteran, at this point."
Even veterans get nerves, however. But, as Bridges notes, that's part of the process. "It's that fear, that anxiety that powers you. I remember working with Robert Ryan on The Iceman Cometh. We had a lot of scenes and they were long takes—like 10-minute takes. We were sitting at a table on a set that's supposed to be a bar. He'd sit there with his hands on the table until we were ready to shoot and when it was time, he'd take them off the table and put them in his lap. There'd be these puddles of sweat on the table where his hands had been. When I asked him about it, he said he was always nervous before shooting and said, 'I'd be really scared if I wasn't scared.' So even the old pros get performance anxiety.
"It's very tricky, the mind. Sometimes when you're making a movie, you think you've really killed it. And then you see the dailies and there's some asshole up there catharting all over the place, feeling his feelings, doing a lot of acting that has nothing to do with the story. And there are other days where you're not feeling right and then you see it and it's perfect. So you can't take those feelings and thoughts too seriously. You've got to be in the moment."
At 63, Jeff Bridges has taken that Zen approach to life for much of his career. Married since 1977 to the former Susan Geston (who he met while working on the film Rancho Deluxe), he has three adult daughters; the oldest, Isabelle, had a daughter in 2011.
"I wish I'd been able to spend more time with my kids but, thankfully, Susan is a wonderful wife and mother," Bridges says. "I guess I was like my dad; he was always working, but he enjoyed his time at home with us, the way I did with my kids."
At this point in his career, Bridges has a reputation for being slow to decide about projects—to the point of actively struggling against the need to choose one.
At this point in his career, Bridges has a reputation for being slow to decide about projects—to the point of actively struggling against the need to choose one.
But before taking a year off to make music, Bridges chose two films, back to back, which will hit theaters in the coming months: R.I.P.D., coming in July, and The Seventh Son, opening in October. The former is a supernatural cops-and-bad-guys action-comedy, teaming Bridges with Ryan Reynolds as undead cops drafted to keep the dead from invading the world of the living. The latter is an 18th-century adventure in which Bridges plays the teacher to a young man who must learn to keep the world's evil spirits in check.
For R.I.P.D., Bridges was attracted by a script that offered "such a weird story. It was so unusual. Being a movie fan, I enjoy movies that are unexpected, that surprise you and don't take you where you expect."
Bridges also appreciated the work of R.I.P.D.'s director, Robert Schwentke: "I was impressed with his film, Red. I thought it was a genre film that he added a freshness to. I read this script and then I met him and thought, 'This is a guy who could pull this off.' "
As for The Seventh Son, Bridges says, "I enjoy mythology and it's a story that's mythic in nature. It's based on a wonderful children's book and I enjoyed the source material. And I was very attracted to the director (Sergey Bodrov) and his other films."
As for The Seventh Son, Bridges says, "I enjoy mythology and it's a story that's mythic in nature. It's based on a wonderful children's book and I enjoyed the source material. And I was very attracted to the director (Sergey Bodrov) and his other films."
Still, getting him to make a decision to appear in those films was a struggle.
"I'm not someone who says, 'Well, I've got to play George Washington' or 'I've got to work with a certain director'," Bridges says. "I'm a counterpuncher. I try hard not to engage. Because once I choose a project, it means I can't do other things. So I wait for one that grabs me enough. I resist as long as I can, until it pulls me in."
Once he's in, however, he's in all the way, say two of his R.I.P.D. costars. Actress Mary-Louise Parker, who plays one of his bosses in the film, says, "He sort of comes in with the weight of a master, but the innocence of a little kid. That kind of enthusiasm has usually worn off after you've been doing this about five years. But Jeff seems to harbor a well of energy for discovery. There's something very pure about him, something wise. Beyond being a brilliant actor, he's just a very unique person. I think he's one of those touched souls that someone waved a wand over when he was born."
In the film, Reynolds plays a modern cop who is killed in the line of duty—then offered the chance to solve his own murder, in exchange for joining the Rest In Peace Department for the next 100 years. He'll be replacing his on-the-job trainer, a Wild West sheriff played by Bridges.
"I was surprised to see how engaged and at play he is with everything, always," Reynolds says in an e-mail interview. "Not just the task at hand which, in this case is a gigantic film, but he's also a pretty inexhaustible source of mischief too. With that ever-present twinkle in his eye, he's always got something cooking. He carries so much of the Eastern teachings—a unique brand of Zen—into not only his work but his approach to the work. It gives him a kind of messianic presence on set. People gravitate to him so that they might take a small piece away. He's as engaged in conversation with the guy hauling cables all day as he is with the head of a studio."
Still, almost 40 years separated Bridges' first Oscar nomination for 1971's Last Picture Show and his winning an Academy Award for 2009's Crazy Heart. In the intervening four decades, he was nominated three other times as well—for Thunderbolt & Lightfoot, Starman and The Contender—but it took playing the rock-bottom story of country singer "Bad" Blake for him to claim the statue.
"For a long time, Jeff was the best-kept secret in Hollywood," says Steve Kloves, who wrote and directed The Fabulous Baker Boys (1989) and subsequently wrote all of the Harry Potter movies. "He hid in plain sight. Jeff was always the guy playing opposite the guy with the eyepatch or the cane—and so no one really knew how good he was. But he has an eloquence and an elegance as an actor—his subtlety is amazing. And he was probably hurt by the fact that he's not someone who stands on top of a building and says, 'Look at me!' "
Scott Cooper, who wrote and directed Crazy Heart, says he wrote the film with Bridges in mind: "I wrote it for Jeff without knowing Jeff," Cooper notes, adding with a nervous laugh, "And I wrote it knowing how difficult it is to get Jeff to say yes to anything."
Scott Cooper, who wrote and directed Crazy Heart, says he wrote the film with Bridges in mind: "I wrote it for Jeff without knowing Jeff," Cooper notes, adding with a nervous laugh, "And I wrote it knowing how difficult it is to get Jeff to say yes to anything."
Luckily for Cooper, he knew Oscar-winner Robert Duvall, who had encouraged Cooper to write a script to direct, and Duvall passed the Crazy Heart script along to Bridges. Still, as Bridges notes during his concerts, the original script came without any music attached. It was only when Bridges spoke to T-Bone Burnett and they agreed to work the music up together that Bridges put his full focus on the Oscar-winning role.
Winning the Oscar, Bridges says, connected him in a new way to the memory of his parents: his father, actor Lloyd Bridges, who died in 1998, and his mother Dorothy, who died a year before Bridges took home his award in March 2010.
"I really felt my parents very strongly that night," Bridges says. "It was like my dad was in a relay race and he'd passed the baton to me to carry on his work. Not just in movies but in being a socially conscious guy. It was one for our team, for our guys."
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text: At risk wild, W.Va. fir flourishes farm-raised By Rick Steelhammer December 24, 2012 Story Share CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- A rare West Virginia fir variety that is thriving on Christmas tree farms across the nation is fighting for survival on its home turf in the state's northeastern highlands.The Canaan fir, also known as the West Virginia balsam fir, is a distinct variety of the northern balsam fir. The compact, symmetrical evergreens with soft, aromatic needles and trunks bearing nodules of sap were known as blister pines to settlers in the five scattered pockets where the firs naturally grow.Blister Swamp, the source of the East Fork of the Greenbrier River, is one locale, as is Blister Run, a swampy creek atop Cheat Mountain. Stonecoal Run, which spills off Dolly Sods, is another site where the firs can be found, as is a section of Virginia's Hawksbill Mountain, the highest peak in Shenandoah National Park. But the place with the largest population of the fir is Tucker County's Canaan Valley, where its potential as a commercial Christmas tree was first envisioned and tested.Canaan firs are believed to be holdovers from the subarctic climate that prevailed over much of what is now the Potomac Highlands of West Virginia at the end of the Pleistocene era. They are found at elevations above 3,000 feet, where the state's coolest temperatures prevail, and grow in or adjacent to highland bogs, which protected them from the devastating wildfires that followed early 20th Century clear-cutting."There's no doubt in my mind that prior to that logging, it intermixed with red spruce in more high-elevation stands, probably in the wetter areas," said James Brown, the Richwood native, WVU grad and retired Ohio State forestry researcher instrumental in making the Canaan fir a commercially successful Christmas tree.Canaan fir pollen turned up in a study of sphagnum bog content at Cranberry Glades in Pocahontas County, he said.Brown first came in contact with the tree during a field trip to Tucker County in the 1960s, when he was a student at WVU. During the trip, he met Martin Luther "Red" Cooper, a former Davis mayor and contractor who operated a farm in Canaan Valley. Since the 1950s, Cooper had been collecting seeds from the cones of the aromatic firs he encountered while roaming the high-altitude bog country near his farm. He began germinating the seeds at home, planting seedlings at his farm, and by the 1960s, began selling his domesticated Canaan Valley firs as Christmas trees."Red said those trees really needed to be looked at for their potential as Christmas trees," Brown said. "He kept bugging me to do something with them, to try growing them at WVU. ... You could tell they had promise as Christmas trees simply by looking at them -- they just looked like Christmas trees." But Brown didn't really start working with the Canaan fir until the early 1970s, when he left the faculty at WVU for a research position at Ohio State. Knowing that the Canaan firs performed well in wet soil, he conducted a study to see how well the trees did in the slow-draining clay soil types that prevailed in Ohio's Christmas tree farm country.At OSU, "I had a wide variety of field locations to work with, a staff to help get the trees in, and the technical assistance I needed to support a study," Brown said. By planting the West Virginia seedlings at sites running the length and breadth of the Buckeye State, he covered a number of climate and soil variables.The study showed that the Canaan fir flourished in the damp, poor-draining Ohio soils, and outperformed the Fraser fir, the nation's most popular Christmas tree species. The West Virginia trees produced more lateral limbs than Frasers or other types of balsams, and as an added bonus, produced new needles later in the year than other species, making them less prone to frost damage.In the early 1980s, Ohio Christmas tree growers Darwin Pound and Jack Schmidt Jr. formed a partnership to begin raising Canaan fir trees and seedlings for transplant produced from the West Virginia fir seed in their home state. Their Canaan Fir Tree Co. is still operating and shipping transplant seedlings to growers across the country. "My understanding is that it's now the No. 1 tree being grown and sold in Ohio," Brown said. "The Fraser fir is probably still considered the Cadillac of Christmas trees, but the Canaan fir is being grown commercially across the Midwest and in Pennsylvania and West Virginia. Its looks, the density of its limbs and its adaptability have made it a very popular tree."But at about the same time that Pound and Schmidt began mass-producing Canaan firs for Christmas tree growers, the trees entered what could prove to be an irreversible decline in the wild.The balsam woolly adelgid, a tiny aphid-like pest, began appearing in Canaan Valley and the Canaan fir's three other pockets of habitation in West Virginia in the early 1990s. The sharp-billed pests are believed to have entered the country from Europe in the early 1900s, and gradually spread northwestward by traveling in wind gusts or aboard passing birds while in their crawler stage. Once attached to a balsam fir, the adelgids suck the sap and the nutrients it contains from the tree, more often than not causing it to die."Now, easily 80 percent of the wild Canaan balsam fir trees in West Virginia are dead," said Rodney Bartgis, state director of the West Virginia Chapter of The Nature Conservancy."We don't seem to be seeing the same level of mortality on the young trees as we do on the old ones," said Bartgis, "so we're hoping that many of the young trees will stay alive long enough to develop cones, so the trees can at least keep surviving here."Young Canaan firs face an additional threat from deer, who love the taste of their needles, while shunning red spruce and many other evergreens.In areas where Canaan fir seedlings should have grown to saplings, "you're struck by finding a lot of foot-tall, bonsai-like firs that have been nipped and nipped again by deer," said Amy Cimarolli, director of science and stewardship at The Nature Conservancy.In areas where young trees have been fenced in to protect them from deer, Canaan fir can grow 8 inches a year, Cimarolli said. Several such deer "exclosures" have been built in Canaan Valley National Wildlife Refuge and Canaan Valley State Park to protect young balsam fir. At Blister Swamp, a private landowner, in cooperation with The Nature Conservancy, the Mountain Institute and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, has fenced off 40 acres to keep deer and livestock out of prime balsam fir habitat. While a tree that survived on its own in isolated pockets since the end of the last Ice Age nearly 12,000 years ago may need special help to make it through the next century in the wild, its future is guaranteed on Christmas tree farms from Pennsylvania to Missouri.For Brown, who helped secure the Canaan fir's future as a farm-raised tree, working with the evergreen "has been a lot of fun. Sometimes, research doesn't go anywhere. It's always rewarding to work on something that has a positive impact on the way people make a living."Reach Rick Steelhammer at email@example.com or 304-348-5169. 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Friends and family of Devizes man Mark Stobbart packed out St James' Church for his funeral service led by the Rev Johnathan Triffitt.
The body of Mr Stobbart, 44, was found in the Kennet and Avon Canal in Devizes on the morning of Good Friday, shortly before the Devizes to Westminster canoe race was due to start.
Mr Triffitt said the attendance was a tribute to Mr Stobbart and he acknowledged that many people would still be feeling shock and disbelief following the tragedy.
Mr Stobbart, a key broker account executive for insurance firm Ageas, lived on the Quakers Walk estate with his wife Clare and his three-year-old son Conor.
During the service friends and family were given time to reflect on their memories of him, and his niece Chloe read a poem by David Harkins.
It said: "You can shed tears that he is gone, or you can smile because he has lived. You can close your eyes and pray that he'll come back, or you can open your eyes and see all he's left."
Mr Triffitt said Mr Stobbart was devoted to his family. He said: "I suspect if you asked him what his greatest achievement was it wouldn't be climbing Mount Everest or crossing the finishing line of a marathon, it would be meeting and marrying Clare and raising Conor."
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A Kanawha County judge on Tuesday granted an early release to a former University of Charleston basketball player convicted of unlawfully assaulting a man last April.
Robert Keith Dreher will be released from the Anthony Correctional Center on probation in July, a month earlier than expected, so he can attend summer classes at Bluefield College.
Kanawha County Circuit Judge Duke Bloom heard during a sentence reconsideration hearing on Tuesday that Dreher successfully completed classes and vocational opportunities at the prison and was accepted to Bluefield College on a partial scholarship to play basketball this fall.
Dreher had been convicted to one to five years in prison in October after pleading guilty to unlawful assault stemming from the April 21, 2013 robbery and attack of Andrew Rude and Patrick Morrison. Police say credit cards belonging to the men were taken and used.
Kanawha assistant prosecutor Fred Giggenbach said Rude had no objection to Dreher's early release and thought it was a good idea to see him turn his life around. Giggenbach also had no objections and said criminal law is not only about punishment, but about rehabilitation as well.


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RATIONALE: Changing the genes in laboratory mice to create a living model of human breast cancer may help doctors learn more about breast cancer.
PURPOSE: This research study is developing mouse models of breast cancer using tissue samples that were previously collected from women with breast cancer.
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OUTLINE: Previously collected breast tumor fragments are implanted into the renal capsule site of SCID mouse hosts (mouse with severe combined immune deficiency) to establish metastatic spread patterns, and both histologic and molecular tumor characteristics.
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Upon returning to Michigan, she worked for a real estate transaction firm and joined the Detroit Mercy Law faculty as an adjunct. In 1995, she joined the faculty full time to teach in the innovative Applied Legal Theory and Analysis program. In addition, she teaches Professional Responsibility, currently serves on the Curriculum committee, and is the Chair of the Writing Program.
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Think Deep Purple Are Too Old to Rock? They've Got Two Words For You
If you happen to be so bold to suggest retirement to Deep Purple vocalist Ian Gillan, you had best be prepared for an equally bold response.
In a recent interview with Germany's Cicero, Gillan acknowledges that, at the age of 68, he is not exactly a spring chicken anymore. But despite his advancing years, he shares that the flame still burns bright to tour and compose new material none the less. This is evidenced by last year's release of 'Now What?!'
"We have been called old rockers, rock pensioners and dinosaurs," Gillan says. "I mean, I have a thick skin I understand that, of course, if the young ones say: 'Step aside, Grandpa! Die at last!' I think to myself then stop: 'F— you.'"
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Yet because he wasn't punished for these activities, Ron's at best a wash.
By that logic, no player in the NBA is worse than Ron. Is that about right?
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Yet because he wasn't punished for these activities, Ron's at best a wash.
By that logic, no player in the NBA is worse than Ron. Is that about right?
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I in no way want to ever see Bonzi in a Blue and Gold jersey.He is one of those players that thinks they are the best player on the team which infact they are in no way the bet player.He would be nothing but bad news for the Pacers.
I wouldn't mind Bonzi at all as long as we didnt have to give up anybody good. At most Pollard and 17th
We dont need another headcase!
Again, I don't see where Ron is a better person.
Correct me if I'm wrong here but does Bonzi have a domestic assult arrest? I don't remember, but I know Ron has one. I also know he has been investigated on more than one occasion as well. Remember if he can get mad at a basketball game he can get mad at other things as well.
As to your last question? Hmmmm...... yea, that's about right. Off the top of my head I can't think of a player in the NBA worse than Ron Artest. However Allen Iverson does come very close. Well, now that I think about it Allen is worse cause I just can't stand the guy.
Kobe Bryant dismantled a title contender.
But I guess he did get his titles first.
The only way I could really see it is if the team traded Jackson + Freddie or something for Ray Allen or Michael Redd, then trading Pollard to Memphis for Bonzi or just signing him.
"It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."
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The fan in detroit made a throwing motion and he knew the cup came from there... he was a seat off. Not that he should have gone into the stands, but still. The Boston fans hit him with coins, if I remember correctly. And the Indiana fans are of course always blameless.publicly attacked one fan in Detroit (the wrong fan) & has attempted to go after fans in Boston & in Indianapolis,
No, he called it "boring." But it was, in fact, both stupid AND boring, which you've pointed out yourself.called our offensive scheme from our coach stupid
A move which Jordan APPLAUDED.broke the ribs of arguably the greatest player to ever live
And I don't even want to defend Ron here, but you keep pushing me into it. Who pissed in your cornflakes today? As for the rest of your post (heck, even the part I responded to) I'm pretty sure you don't actually believe it and you're overstating your case just to bait me. I *HATE* the fact that EVERY.FRICKING.THREAD has to be about Ron Artest.
You're fighting me on this just because you're in a mood to fight. Nobody else in the world contests the idea that Bonzi's a jerk, and nobody that's ever met Ron has said anything other than he's a nice guy. Maybe crazy, maybe can't handle the pressure of the NBA game, but a nice guy.
Here's some more I'd forgotten:
Wells was suspended one game without pay and fined $10,000 for intentionally striking and verbally abusing an official during Tuesday's 105-93 home loss to the Seattle SuperSonics.
Trail Blazers Bonzi Wells and Eric Barkley are facing criminal trespass charges after they allegedly refused to leave the scene of a fight near a downtown nightclub... Wells and Barkley shouted profanities at officers who asked them to leave, Schmautz said. Wells, Barkley and two others were cited for criminal trespass, a misdemeanor that is punishable by a fine or community service.
Trail Blazers guard Bonzi Wells was suspended for two games without pay by the team Tuesday for cursing his coach after being taken out of a game... Wells was suspended by the NBA for a game last November after spitting on San Antonio forward Danny Ferry during a game. The next month, he drew a two-game league suspension for his role in a postgame brawl with the Golden State Warriors. Last March, Wells was suspended for one game by Cheeks for conduct considered detrimental to the team.
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I aggree Anthem. Peck, you are not going to be like this the whole coming season when someone says something or when Artest takes a bad shot in a game (provided Artest stays here and doesn't get traded), I hope?
I don't want Bonzi anywhere NEAR our team btw. We have enough emotionally unstable players as it is and ye,s that includes Artest aswell.
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Even if we were shuck of Ron Artest I wouldn't want Bonzi Wells here. I would accept Rasheed before even considering Wells....that's how much I DON't want Bonzi here.
Ever notice how friendly folks are at a shootin' range??.
so u would prefer the master to the padawan is what ur saying? makes sense to me...Originally Posted by indygeezer
though in this case it might be more like taking the sith lord over his apprentice....so in that case im not really sure....
know this....and im not one whos big on blaming other for how someone turns out....but bonzi is the way he is basically because of sheed....
bonzi was nothing like he is now when he left ball state....but after a couple of years directly under sheed's tutellage he has developed into something very very similar to that of his mentor...
both possess tremendous skills....and thats why these types of conversations even take place....a few years ago i might have been lured into wanting bonzi....but im pretty much convinced that u cant teach an old dog new tricks at this point....
bonzi seems to enjoy the way he is and have zero interest in changing it....that in itself is one of the biggest differences between he and artest-for those that brought that line of thinking up in this thread...
Peck said.....We have reports about both & yes reports tend to agree with you but unless we know them I guess how can we make that judgement?
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Since when has that stopped people on this and previous forums the past
10 years from judging a player or GM or coach. I am always amazed at some of the conclusions people draw from limited info.
bonzi uses illegal substances-drugs-marijuana...whatever
ron does not...
realize i say these are reports that seem valid....if they are...and i do mean if....
in my book that does make ron a better person...unquestionably....i might be in the minority...but thats how i personally feel on the matter....
Why are we arguing over which player is the bigger bum?
There's a line in the sand:
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Ron and Bonzi are both way down here somewhere. So who really cares if its
998) Iverson
999) Ron
1,000) Bonzi
998) Iverson
999) Bonzi
1,000) Ron on the list?
(Note, Iverson is included for Peck's benefit, I don't really want him but I wouldn't rank him that low, personally.)
Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you
I notice you put Ron last both times
Bonzi is just a bad person. He may have been ok in BS, Peck, but once he went to Portland, stuff just goes wrong. And he became a jerk as mentioned. The guy is just low-class personality-wise. Yeah, Ron has done some stupid things, but he isn't a bad person. I'll take 10 Ronnies before I take Bonzi.
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No I didn't. And I didn't edit it either.Originally Posted by Suaveness
Well, I'll go edit it now, and put them in a list; I agree its hard to read those in paragraph form.
Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
And life itself, rushing over me
Life itself, the wind in black elms,
Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you
i guess all i can say is wow....Originally Posted by Jay@Section204
not sure what makes these any of these guys bums...
but anyway....i know i certainly feel it is inappropriate and rather uninformed to characterize someone as a bum who has rather deepseated childhood issues that are not yet resolved and therefore has impulse reaction tendencies that are subpar....
let alone when that persons value system seems to be focused on family first...
to classify ron in the same group as bonzi...well...given their obviously different legal histories and most noteably their different attitudes....well...i would call that uninformed as well....but then i dont think those that have this obvious unfounded disdain for ron, or jo for that matter, really care what i think or anyone else thinks...its obviously based on bitterness and resentment first and foremost....with very little objectivity given where the facts are concerned....
But the teams ask us to rely on that limited info when we are making the choice whether to buy a tix or not. And yes, character of my team does figure into that, I have kids that want to look up to our players. If they can't look up to them, then I can't encourage support of the team.
Ever notice how friendly folks are at a shootin' range??.
Originally Posted by Harmonica
umm...which part is nonsense?
the part that bonzi has/does use illegal substances?
the part that ron doesnt?
the part that if these both are true that in my book it makes ron a better person?
or that u think its ok to use illegal substances? to which i stated i might be in the minority
In your book, that makes them a better person.
Your logic is pure nonsense.
Trading Artest for Bonzi is just goofy.
I'm all for dealing Artest but why trade one problem for another?
As for who's worse, it's irrelevant - both are problems and any team would be better served by not having either of them.
The poster formerly known as Rimfire
But I do know Ron is a much better player than Bonzi, so yes I'm willing to put up with more for a great player.