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SAN JOSE — The Sam Liccardo for Mayor campaign signs are so simple: "Smarter government, safer city," they say.
But the San Jose councilman pushes a seemingly endless list of ideas, like registering private security cameras with the police, adding a bandstand to a rundown city park and putting homeless up in motels. Then he's off to proposals about green bicycle lanes, transforming suburban neighborhoods into urban hubs and pushing tax breaks to lure businesses to town.
"He's kind of a renaissance man in many ways," said his friend Carl Guardino, who heads the Silicon Valley Leadership Group.
But for a city with a couple of major problems that polls show are the top concern of voters — namely, struggling public safety services — Liccardo's critics and even some of his allies fear he is not focused enough to lead City Hall.
Liccardo's many plans have at times generated other problems, critics say, such as vehicle traffic along the busy downtown corridors that feature the lightly-used bike lanes. They've created more enemies, such as employee unions, a challenge for a mayoral post that requires coalitions. And researching the plans, some of which take years to reach prime time, eat up valuable work time for city employees.
Sometimes he even gets involved in issues outside City Hall's reach, like with his calls to increase the school day. At other times the pace can wear on him — at one point during an interview last week between two campaign events amid a typical jam-packed day, he asked for a break so he could sit quietly for a bit.
Liccardo maintains he thrives on the adrenaline rush of taking on various issues, and has repeatedly said his record in passing his proposals surpasses any of his four mayoral challengers. But he concedes he will have to be more focused as mayor — just as Mayor Chuck Reed deemed employee pension costs to be the city's biggest issue and devoted his administration to it.
"As a mayor you have an opportunity to pick your spots," Liccardo said, while being a council member is more like "retail politics" — constituents come with a concern you must solve.
While Liccardo jumps from topic-to-topic based on the audience in campaign events, his platform, like the signs suggests, is based on restoring police department staffing and introducing reforms, often tech-driven, to make City Hall more efficient.
Liccardo, who has done more than 80 campaign events — easily the most of any candidate — has a history of taking on a lot of things at once. In college, he tutored kids for free, then graduated near the top of his Harvard Law School class. As a Santa Clara County prosecutor, he volunteered with kids at homeless shelters, and later, donated his time on the 2000 campaign to bring BART to San Jose. He speaks some Spanish and is an All-American triathlete.
Liccardo has an infectious energy. He plays the role of a classic campaigner very well when he loosens his tie and rolls up his sleeves to talk with voters one-on-one after campaign events.
Steve Hartman, a neighborhood leader in the southwest corner of San Jose, was skeptical of Liccardo until meeting him at a campaign event. But then he was so blown away he made custom "Liccardo for Mayor" buttons and hosted an event for him at his Camden Village townhouse complex.
"I was impressed with how smart he was," Hartman said in invoking the adjective most used by Liccardo supporters, "and not condescending in the way he talked about things."
Although some voters are wary of mayoral rival and county Supervisor Dave Cortese's support from unions, Liccardo has actually raised by far the most money of any candidate — and it's come mainly from the business community. His opponents fear tech companies and others that have contributed heavily to Liccardo's campaign will have too much sway with him, particularly since so many donors have come from outside San Jose.
"There's a reason why he raised a half-million dollars practically overnight," said Councilman Ash Kalra, who supports Cortese. "To claim you're an independent candidate yet to have hundreds of thousands of dollars roll in, in an instant … you can't have it both ways."
Liccardo rejects that idea, saying he's voted against developer interests in the past, is opposed by card club businesses and has more than 1,700 individual donors.
But perhaps the largest challenge facing Liccardo is his strained relationship with the city's unions, mainly police officers and firefighters. That stems from Liccardo's strong support for pension reform measures that voters approved to curb runaway retirement costs but that unions are now fighting in court.
Liccardo wants the city to be reimbursed when police recruits waste taxpayer dollars getting trained in the academy and then quit to work somewhere else, and to change the union rule that says four firefighters in a large engine must respond to even minor medical emergencies.
Both changes would align with what other cities have done and could save the city untold millions of dollars, especially important because Liccardo, like his competitors, does not support a proposed sales tax measure. But his ideas have gone nowhere because of the unions' opposition.
Liccardo said he and the unions "won't hug it out the first day" he's in office if elected. But he's vowed to meet with them on his first day and try to find common ground over time.
But unions blame Liccardo and his allies for pushing through pension measures that have driven cops to other cities, and are frustrated the council has refused to back down on the initiative, called Measure B, even as crime continues to rise and the measure languishes in court.
Ben Field, head of the South Bay Labor Council, said on crime: "Liccardo has made the problem worse."
But his supporters say it's refreshing to see a politician stand by his convictions despite the political ramifications.
"He's been pretty consistent," said Jennifer Loving, a homeless services advocate who first befriended Liccardo in 2000. "Maybe he gets in trouble for being candid. I think that he says what he means."
Contact Mike Rosenberg at 408-920-5705. Follow him at Twitter.com/rosenbergmerc.
Mayoral profiles
Each day this week, the Mercury News is profiling the five major candidates competing in the June 3 primary to replace termed-out Mayor Chuck Reed. The top two vote-getters will move on to compete in the November election. Monday: Dave Cortese. Tuesday: Rose Herrera. Today: Sam Liccardo. Thursday: Madison Nguyen. Friday: Pierluigi Oliverio.
Sam Liccardo
Current job: San Jose councilman, since 2007
Prior political experience: none
Age: 44
Political party: Democrat
Family: Married last year; no children
Fundraising rank among 5 major candidates: 1st
Three endorsements he highlights: three former mayors (Hammer, James, McEnery); more than 100 CEOs and business leaders; District Attorney Jeff Rosen.
Fun fact: He was "filled with crane envy" when visiting San Francisco a few years back and has since ushered in high-rise projects for downtown


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Saturday's march against police violence is scheduled to go down Pennsylvania Avenue.
Open-government groups say the House language is not as strong as the Senate version.
Saturday's Dec. 13, 2014, represents the last sequential calendar date for at least 20 years (Jan. 2, 2034).
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There is no definitive market share shift from GMO corn and soybeans, but the convergence of several factors appears to be pushing some growers away from paying the higher price for traited seed when conventional seed might perform just as well.
There has been an increase in non-GMO varieties entered in the Iowa Crop Performance tests, noted Jim Rouse, director of the Iowa Crop Improvement Association. The big increase in non-GMO varieties is with seed corn. In the corn hybrid test for 2012, 56 out of 259 were conventional hybrids; that is 21 percent. As for soybeans, 23 varieties were conventional out of 226 varieties tested, or 10 percent.
"Some companies mostly enter GMO hybrids, but they have now started to enter one or two conventional hybrids, too, that they might not have entered in the past," said Rouse. "It is about the same percentage as last year, but it is higher than in 2010. And before that, there didn't seem to be as much interest in conventional hybrids."
Spectrum Premium Genetics from Linden, Ind., is an example of a new company entering non-GMO hybrids in the tests. Company President Scott Odle started the company to provide alternatives to GMO hybrids about three years ago. The estimate is that non-GMO corn is about 9 percent of the seed corn market, and Odle predicts that it might be 20 percent in five years.
He suggests that farmers are realizing that traits protect yield and genetics are the underlying yield determinant. And he can show that non-trait hybrids are testing quite well against traited seed.
"If we had used GMOs as a tool instead of the rule, we wouldn't have a lot of the issues that we have today," he said. Odle refers to insects showing resistance to Bt seed traits, weeds showing resistance to glyphosate herbicides and stacked trait hybrids that haven't performed as promised in some cases.
The impetus for Odle to start a seed company was his worry that in five to seven years, without smaller seed companies focusing on non-GMO seed, these alternatives wouldn't exist, but he is now optimistic about the future.
"I know that we don't need to plant GMO hybrids every year," he said. In his own farming operation, he isn't completely averse to using a Bt-trait seed or Roundup Ready hybrid occasionally if a specific situation calls for it.
Jon Lundgren, Ph.D., entomologist with the USDA Agricultural Research Service in South Dakota, said, in general, there seems to be a "developing market for non-GM corn."
"Bt technology has been so effective for so long that we have eliminated the target pests in a lot of the growing regions. The European corn borer has been driven to such low populations that farmers are starting to wonder where did it go, and do I need to plant Bt corn every year. If the pest isn't there, then the economic value isn't there for Bt hybrids."
The non-Bt option is possible in less prime areas for corn rootworm infestations, too. And the "entomological community" is thinking that going back to a 20 percent refuge of non-GMO corn is a logical move, Lundgren noted.
"In the areas where there is less corn in the rotation and there is no corn on corn, we are selling more conventional hybrids," said Brad Taylor, vice president of Taylor Seed Farms at White Cloud, Kan. "In Kansas, there is a lot of area where the farmers rotate corn, soybean and wheat—not just corn and beans. The areas where conventional corn is being planted is where there isn't rootworm, and there hasn't been corn borer pressure for some time."
A farmer can save around $50 per acre buying conventional seed compared to traited seed. If a farmer was going to use herbicides other than Roundup or a soil insecticide for secondary pests instead of solely relying on the Bt traits for insect control, then today a conventional hybrid has appeal.


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LOS ANGELES – Bail has been posted for the Rancho Palos Verdes man who was arrested at Oakland International Airport with a watch that looked like a bomb, two employees of the Alameda County Sheriff's Department official said Sunday.
Geoffrey McGann posted bail and was released about 2 a.m. Saturday, said a man who would not identify himself at the Alameda County Sheriff's Department's headquarters. A jailer at the department's Santa Rita Jail in Dublin confirmed that.
On Saturday, the Alameda jailers said their computers were down and they did not know if McGann was jailed, freed or had been transferred to federal custody.
McGann had been held on a $150,000 bail after being arrested for felony possession of materials to make an explosive device Thursday night at the Oakland terminal.
The "elaborate watch" was buried beneath his coat in a luggage inspection area, and it had been attached to wires, a toggle switch, fuses and a circuit board. McGann was caught with the device and even stranger items in his luggage Thursday evening, TSA agents said.
McGann's boots were two sizes too big and concealed homemade insoles with hiding places, which were empty. And his military-style shirt with a built- in tourniquet in the sleeves, often used by soldiers to stop bleeding if they suffer an arm injury, agents said.
McGann allegedly took off his watch while going through a checkpoint at Terminal 2 about 7:45 p.m Thursday, put in the security bin and covered it with coat. McGann was apparently trying to board a Southwest Airlines flight back to LAX, near his home in Rancho Palos Verdes.


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Corn futures resumed their Tuesday slide Wednesday. Forecasts for fine mid-summer weather apparently weighed upon new crop corn futures, while sliding old crops bids reportedly undercut nearby corn and soy futures. Broad financial market weakness and technical factors may also have contributed to the yellow grain slide. September corn futures dropped 14.25 cents to $5.0825/bushel in late Wednesday trading, while December slid 5.25 cents to $4.8025.
Diving old crop prices sparked widespread soybean losses Wednesday. The prospect of large new crop supplies apparently encouraged country buyers to drop their bids for soybeans and meal Wednesday, which sparked a followed-through to their huge Tuesday plunge. Fine weather and broad financial market weakness also appeared to contribute to the breakdown. August soybean futures plummeted by the daily 70-cent limit to $13.925/bushel at the Wednesday close, while August soyoil dove 0.52 cents to 44.26 cents/pound, and August soymeal plunged $20.0 to $467.8/ton.
Wheat futures held up surprisingly well again Wednesday. Despite sizeable corn and soybean losses and the generally bearish environment, the wheat markets lost only minimal ground. Some might credit talk of Brazilian frost and Russian producer claims that their crop will fall short of recent forecasts, but we are more inclined to point to the looming end to the U.S. winter wheat harvest and substantially reduced hedging pressure from domestic farmers. September CBOT wheat settled just 0.5 cent lower at $6.5325/bushel Wednesday afternoon, while September KCBT wheat dipped 1.75 cents to $6.9725 and September MGE futures skidded 0.5 cent to $7.435.
Cattle futures apparently suffered from the broad financial market decline Wednesday. After reacting poorly to large wholesale losses Tuesday night, CME cattle futures rebounded on news of steady Kansas trading around midday. However, the broad financial market breakdown that dominated trading later in the day apparently pushed cattle prices downward as well. Traders clearly worry about the beef demand outlook. August cattle sank 0.33 cents to 121.57 cents/pound at Wednesday's settlement, while December lost 0.32 cents to 128.27. August feeder futures tumbled 0.57 cents to 153.02 cents/pound, while November declined 0.55 cents to 158.85.
Hog futures were mixed Wednesday. After vaulting upward Tuesday, the nearby August contract gave back a portion of the previous day's gain. In contrast, the fall and winter contracts rose slightly, possibly in response to talk about the damage being done by the PEDV outbreak and/or to their large discounts to recent quotes for the CME lean hog index. August hog futures edged 0.25 cents lower to 98.92 cents/pound in late Wednesday trading, while December rallied 0.47 cents to 83.45.


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text: Potential 'loophole' in chemical spill reporting law By Dave Boucher January 12, 2014 Story Share CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- The company responsible for a chemical leak that continues to force 300,000 West Virginians from using their tap water broke the law.Which law, exactly, is still under investigation.But state officials don't believe Freedom Industries was required to follow a state law requiring industrial facilities to report an emergency within 15 minutes."I think the loophole, if you will, that this facility fell into is because it was not a hazardous material, it flew under the radar," said Secretary Randy Huffman, head of the state Department of Environmental Protection.This isn't the only potential loophole.The DEP never inspected the facility because the company didn't produce any chemicals or have any legal emissions.A different legislative rule states a facility must give "immediate" notice of a spill, but leaves it up to the head of the DEP to determine what "immediate" means in each case."I know there's been a violation, because there was a violation when the material hit the stream," Huffman said Sunday night after a press conference at the state Capitol.Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin and state Senate President Jeff Kessler, D-Marshall, said they are committed to looking at possible law changes."I've had my attorneys in over the weekend and they are looking at some potential legislation, because the Legislature is in session right now, and I'm sure there will be many of them calling for similar legislation," Huffman said.As much as 7,500 gallons of a chemical, known as crude MCHM, leaked Thursday morning from a storage container owned by Freedom Industries into the Elk River. The chemical seeped through and old cement block wall meant as secondary containment and into the water.DEP officials believe the leak started about 8:15 a.m. Thursday. Huffman said DEP officials arrived on scene at 11:15 a.m.Freedom Industries didn't report the spill until 12:05 p.m., Huffman said."They should have called earlier, there's no question that they should have called earlier," Huffman said.A portion of state law called "industrial facility emergency event notification and access" says within 15 minutes of an industrial facility learning of an emergency, the facility shall contact the Mine and Industrial Accident Emergency Operations Center or local emergency services by telephone. Huffman and Jimmy Gianato, head of the state Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, said the Freedom Industries chemical doesn't apply to this law."There's a 15-minute reporting rule for facilities that have products that are listed on what's called the extremely hazardous substance list, and a chemical list that we specify that deals primarily with hazardous materials," Gianato said."This product, based on the Department of Transportation regulations and the EPA, does not list as a hazardous substance."Other standards, including those set by the U.S. Occupational Health and Safety Administration, do list the material as hazardous, according to the Charleston Gazette.The law itself does use the phrase "extremely hazardous substance," in its definition of an emergency event. However, it also states the law isn't limited to such materials or other specifically outlined events.The definition of "industrial facility" in this part of the law has also been questioned. The definition does use the words "storage facilities," though. The law Huffman, Gianato and others believe actually does apply has a different set of penalties and requirements. Huffman pointed to a different chapter in state law pertaining to pollution. It states someone who knowingly and willfully violates a relevant legislative rule could face up to three years in prison and a $50,000 fine for each day of violation. The rule says "each and every person who may cause or be responsible for any spill or accidental discharges of pollutants into the waters" must give immediate notification through the emergency hotline.Huffman wouldn't say whether he thought Freedom met the criteria for violating the "immediate notification" portion of the law."That will be one of the many things that we consider in the coming weeks," Huffman said.Any fine won't cover the damages caused by the leak, Huffman added.Reached Sunday, Kessler said he thought the 15-minute reporting law applied."For goodness sakes," he said, when told state officials weren't sure that it did.After leaving early Friday, the Senate is slated for a regular schedule today. Kessler said he planned to look over the law for any loopholes.He said he'd consider introducing legislation personally after discussing it with his legislative team.Leadership in the state House of Delegates announced Friday it wants to pursue the creation of a Small Business Emergency Relief Fund."We will work to carefully craft legislation that provides a limited, zero-interest loan to small businesses located in an area where a State of Emergency has been declared," Majority Leader Harry Keith White, D-Mingo, said in a press release."We are considering a variety of parameters, for instance, setting a cap based on the weekly sales from the same time in the previous year."Kessler said he hoped such a fund would be available to a wide array of businesses. He agreed with Huffman that Freedom would likely not be able to cover the cost of the damages. Whatever a review reveals, Kessler is confident the affected customers would have preferred more oversight of the facility."I hear some of the mantra in the Legislature from time to time that government needs to get out of the way, and too much regulation and that kind of stuff," Kessler said."But boy, I bet you there are 300,000 people in the state who wish we had more regulation of the industry."No one from Freedom Industries spoke Sunday night at the press conference.Susan Lavenski, a public relations executive with Charles Ryan Associates, said she'd decided to discontinue representing Freedom Industries.A message left at the company's main phone line was not returned.The House will convene briefly at 1 p.m. Monday and then reconvene at 6 p.m. Tuesday, said Stacey Ruckle, spokeswoman for House Speaker Tim Miley. There will be normal business Wednesday, she said.Contact writer Dave Boucher at 304-348-4843 or email@example.com. Follow him at www.Twitter.com/Dave_Boucher1. 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What would you do for your child?
I know that I'd give any of my children a kidney. I come to their defense and I tell them when they're wrong. I love them bigger than the sky. Did I forget to mention give them money? We won't talk about that.
It was the same when I was pregnant. I changed many habits for the sake of my babies. I ate differently — and no more beer on a hot summer day!
Undoubtedly, you'll do these things and more. After all, you want to do everything in your power to ensure a healthy baby. For your baby's sake, please add the Tdap vaccine to your list.
The CDC recommends the Tdap vaccine — which offers protection from whooping cough (pertussis), tetanus and diphtheria — for all pregnant women, regardless of when you had your last Tdap or tetanus-diphtheria (Td) vaccine. Ideally, the vaccine should be given between 27 and 36 weeks of pregnancy.
Whooping cough can be especially dangerous — even life-threatening — for infants. Getting the Tdap vaccine during pregnancy can help protect you from the infection and might also help protect your baby after birth.
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After Monday's poor action, market players were not prepared for another buying spike, which probably intensified today's action. The market has been on a rollercoaster ride the last four days, and the rush to reposition with each swing only makes it worse.
Today's action was the complete opposite of yesterday's. The market trended up strongly before a little late selling, but volume was strong and breadth quite good. Even Apple (AAPL) managed to come back to life and helped the Nasdaq to outperform for a change.
The problem with this sort of market is that it is tough to apply logic to it. When we see alternating days of good and bad action, you have to be ready for anything and not be surprised if the pattern continues.
The bears will say that this inconsistent action is a sign of indecision, which means a turning point is near. The bulls will argue that it's just profit-taking and consolidation, which makes for a healthier market and sets the stage for more upside.
My view lately has been to stick with the bulls until there is a reason not to; today's action certainly did nothing to change that thinking. The bulls continue to have the edge, but this pattern of action suggests more chop to come.
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Research Discourages Use of Medical Marijuana For Rheumatic Diseases Like Lupus
In a recent review article published in Arthritis Care & Research, the journal of the American College of Rheumatology (ACR), researchers at McGill University Health Centre (MUHC) point to the risks associated with using medical marijuana in advising healthcare providers to discourage its use by rheumatology patients.
"With the public outcry for herbal cannabis therapy, governments around the world are considering its legalization for medicinal use," explains lead investigator Dr. Mary-Ann Fitzcharles, a rheumatologist and researcher at the Research Institute of the MUHC and who is also a professor of medicine at McGill University. "Physicians caring for patients who are self-medicating with marijuana need to understand the health implications of using this drug. Our review aims to provide healthcare professionals with that medical evidence related to medical marijuana use in patients with rheumatic conditions."
"At this time, we cannot recommend herbal cannabis for arthritis pain management given the lack of efficacy data, potential harm from the drug, and availability of other therapies for managing pain," concludes Dr. Fitzcharles. "Physicians should discourage rheumatology patients from using medical marijuana as a therapy."
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The Sixth Doctor and Peri arrive on the planet Necros where, in a facility called Tranquil Repose presided over by Mr Jobel and his assistant Tasambeker, the wealthy can have their newly-deceased bodies cryogenically frozen until such time as medical science can cure whatever killed them.
The Doctor wishes to pay his last respects to his friend Professor Arthur Stengos, and also to assuage some nagging suspicions about the man's death. His suspicions prove justified, as it turns out that this is just a ruse to lure him into a trap.
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Problem is, of the ones who care enough to pay attention between elections, those voters will be the last ones interested the type of compromise Obama will need to make to get Republican votes for tax hikes. "The big issue they are going to have to figure out with the list is that activists want to fight for issues they can believe in," Eddie Vale, a spokesman for Protect Your Care, told The New York Times. "A call to cut a bipartisan deal — that's not going to cut it."
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I chose to leave my Law degree here last year. The main campus (University Park) is one of the most beautiful I have ever been to, and the range of societies and clubs on offer is phenomenal, but, in the end, there just weren''t enough things to keep me at an academically failing institution. Nottingham has fallen significantly in the league tables in recent years, and I can certainly see why. Nottingham''s courses are simply oversubscribed. Keep in mind that the university has around 21k undergrads alone - by comparison, Oxford has 11k and Warwick has 12k and individual departments as well as the University as a whole have a very "detached" feel. A lot of students are paying for nothing but a set of handouts (which are often very poorly done - the Law ones were often sparsely written, done in shorthand and virtually impossible to understand because of this), the odd tutorial or lecture (I spent more time working at my part-time job than having contact time!) or piece of coursework, and a set of exams at the end of every semester, plus a degree certificate at the end of it. The whole university often felt like a giant business or money-making scheme, complete with shiny prospectuses to advertise it and plenty of PR attempts, rather than an academic institution that actually cared about providing a great education. Even in tutorials, professors gave off the impression that they were doing you a favour by taking time out of their extremely busy schedules, rather than actually doing something you had paid a sizeable amount of money for. My personal tutor was unavailable the vast majority of the time - I literally only got to see him for 5 minutes at the start and end of every semester. After emailing him regarding academic help a few times to get no reply, I gave up. Nottingham''s social scene is also antiintellectual. As only a few courses out of the many on offer require high grades and indication of much passion for your subject in your Personal Statement, when you move into halls in first year, for instance, there''s a strong likelihood the people you are placed with will be more interested in partying and clubbing than actually doing some work. If you don''t fit in in terms of having really upper-middle-class parents who are willing to finance a good bit of partying and whatnot, being willing to act like a complete drunken maniac (I''m not going to go into detail, but hall representatives made us sing very explicit and rude songs involving paedophilia, rape and doing things to members of other halls in the bus rides to clubs) in Freshers'' Week, and being a bit snobby and closed off to anyone who isn''t like that (I had a huge group of friends from school, as I''m very sociable, but didn''t get along so well with hallmates in Nottingham) you are not going to find it easy to make lasting friends here.
After completing 3 years at UEA I went to Nottingham University for my post grad year. I took for granted that everything I loved about UEA was just being at university - any university. How wrong I was!
Nottingham University is very large, and as a result it feels very impersonal. The schools of study are so huge you don't get that feeling of getting to know your tutors, and you feel like they value your tuition fees more than they value you personally. Research is a very high priority for Nottingham, and lecturers will focus on that more than they will you. Having said all that, the campus is gorgeous. You have everything you need right there, the bar, which also does food and hot drinks, a stationery shop, plenty of places to buy lunch inc. Boots the chemist. The library is great, and has a Starbucks when you need a break from studying. The buses run right through campus taking you cheaply and easily into the city.
Overall I would say it depends on the type of person you are, and the type of university experience you want. If you like the hustle and bustle of a big city and you're not too worried about it feeling impersonal then you'll probably love it. If, like me though, you prefer somewhere that offers all these things, but on a smaller scale, then I would choose a smaller university. One where you build hundreds of friendships because you're always bumping into the same people, and one where your tutors will get to know you personally and be able to help when you need it.
I think Nottingham University sucks!!!Although it has beautiful campus the substance under the appearance is rotten. The university just try every method to get money from us poor overseas students and no matter what kind of way used: cheat, illegal way.Besides, Nottingham city sucks, too!! People there are very unfriendly and have high discrimination towards foreigners. They are cold and behave like machine,not human. The criminal rate of Nottingham is also the highest. Yes,there are fair ladies but most of them just prefer to give a scornful glance.People there are not only conservative and prejudice, also stupid and non-civilized.
I am currently half way through a four year degree at the University of Nottingham, and I've loved my time here so far.
For me, the University of Nottingham has everything; it is a beautiful, sprawling, green campus right on the edge of a bustling metropolitan centre. It has the nightlife, it has the history, it has the attractions. It has the international relations (having a campus in Malaysia and on in China too). It has top notch sports facilities. In my experience it has to notch facilities whatever you're looking at. It is also ideally situated, being only a relatively short journey away from most places in England. There are a good range of societies available through the student's union, and the student bar's are fairly good value for money too.
Most importantly of all though, it has a good reputation academically, and especially for research. I have found the quality of teaching to be consistently high, and from what I've heard from friends, the academic support available is far greater than other universities.
That said, it's far from perfect. I've had a few problems, but those have been mostly with the Timetabling office, and have been readily sorted out. Nottingham has the same problems with administration as any University, but I've always had these sorted very quickly. My biggest problem is their fondness for parting with you with your money, but I've found it doesn't bother me too much as I've avoided losing things like my student card.
Overall I've had a good experience with this University. It's not perfect, but then no university could ever be. I will say that it's a great place to study, and I hope to carry on my studies here after my undergraduate degree.
Nottingham University is generally based on appearances, boasting one of Europe's greenest campuses and a range of archiecture from classical looking buildings on University Park to postmodern award winning buildings on Jubilee. This is generally what attracts potential students, along with its reputation as being one of the best universities in the UK.
However, as we all know, appearances can be deceptive.
I did my undergrad degree at Nottingham University, and whilst I can honestly say that a lot of my friends loved at and were keen for any excuse to say, there were a lot of things I had problems with. Some of these I assume will be similar for other universities, but this is just a guess, and these are problems I encountered.
One thing I will say is that if you're doing an Arts course, be prepared for an overwhelming amount of superficial people, many of whom will take 3 or 4 hours to get ready to go to the library, whereupon they do no work at all but just go there to be 'seen'. Many people are fake and/or snobbish, though there are plenty of nicer and more normal people too, these are the ones who will most stick in your mind unfortunately.
1. Teaching
Most of the staff, particularly in first year, gave the impression that they'd much rather be doing their research than teaching us. In first year the majority of seminars were given by unqualified postgrads. This I found quite shocking as you wouldn't even expect a teacher without training in a primary school, never mind a university. This is a problem across a lot of universities, mainly due I think to costs in teaching large numbers of people. I did have supposed seminars where the 'teacher' would hold up something like Paradise Lost and say 'So what did you think of this book?', and then proceeded to get visibly annoyed when met with the silence of people completely flabbergasted by such a broad question that hadn't been thought through. Occasionally I would get a good postgrad teacher, but this was rare.
This is really not worth paying over a grand a year for, especially where there are only a few hours a week teaching time for English students (about 10-15 in first year, going down to about 4 in third)
In second and third years a bigger proportion of the teaching was done by lecturers; however this varied hugely. Amongst the best, like Peter Stockwell, lectures were fully attended by the 200-300 people on my course. We'd spend time discussing them after and it made us love what we do. We had a purpose, we were crazily enjoying it. Other lecturers relied solely on muttered Powerpoint slides, often badly spelt and mistyped (appalling for any subject, but they made many English students want to cry). For the worst, only about 10 people would show up once the lecturer had established what they were like by reading off slides and then putting them up on the intranet for people to download in full anyway.
2. Money
At the end of the third year, I went to apply for a master's and to apply at other unis, I needed official proof of my results to date. After reading the terms on the Nottingham Uni website, I then had to fill out a confusing form where one of the mandatory questions was the type of 'letter' I wanted. I was confused but completed it anyway. I was then told to wait 3 days before I could collect my copies. I went to collect them, and they'd printed the wrong thing for me and then told me it was my fault and I had to pay if I wanted anything else printed. I explained that the form had confused me, and they looked it up on their computer and tried their best to prove it was my fault but they couldn't. The woman acted like she was doing me a big favour by printing off the stuff I needed and not charging me for it (after 5 printouts of official admin things you have to pay). All she did was print 5 sheets of A4 and stamp them. And that apparently took 3 days. The worst thing was that if I had been charged, the first page would have cost me £10, and the subsequent ones £5 each. For a two second printout on a plain piece of paper, and an ink pad stamp.
Then I was told that I'd have to provide a copy of my final degree certificate to confirm my place - that is a fixed fee of another £20. Their attempts to get you to stay on and do more/other courses mounted up and ended up costing quite a lot by the end.
Secondly, a considerable amount (we're talking hundreds of thousands if not millions) of the money the university makes is based on investments in the arms trade, which I find politically and morally unethical and I'm ashamed that by going there I unknowingly supported this. Apparently it's done because it's a safe investment with a big return.
Thirdly, the university has campuses in China and Malyasia. To be officially recognised as a university in China, there needs to be a certain number of books per student. So the university has decided to ship out a lot of English books from their UK libraries that are either banned or not applicable to the courses they do over there rather than pay for new books that would actually benefit the Chinese students and allow the English students to keep books they need and use, when there is already a shortage.
3. Societies and Karni
Karni is the charity organisation that plans tons of different ways to make money. The university loves it because it makes them look good. Even though they're perfectly willing to take credit for this, they are not prepared to accept responsibility of the students. There are various Karni 'reps' in charge of events and organisation, and they are required to sign for personal responsiblity for the students in case anything should happen. I imagine if anything did, this would cause massive problems and guilt issues, outside of courts and lawsuits etc.
Societies are given precedence over students to some degree. For example, I was told I was not allowed to book a room to rehearse a presentation in because I was not a committee member of a society. So I couldn't use the drama studio for presentation purposes even though I studied Drama; yet a computer scientist as a secretary of, say, the rambling society could organise hang gliding in there if he/she wanted. I found this really unfair, and this applies to all rooms that can be booked on campus.
4. Censorship
In my second year they put a warning on the intranet portal basically telling people that if they posted anything negative about the university on the Internet, they would be kicked out.
This kind of censorship was added to by two people recently being arrested for 'terrorism'. This involved one of the students asking a staff (not academic/lecturer) member to print out a copy of some terrorism-related stuff; but this is widely available in print/on the Internet, and was strongly linked to his thesis. It was blown out of all proportion and unsurprisingly the university tried to distance themselves from it until they were found innocent, refusing to use the word 'staff' even internally - instead, they referred to the incident as involving a student and an 'ex-student', refusing to even acknowledge it was anything to do with them...and passing the non-existent blame onto the students - just for a change.
5. Student cards
In the second year I was there the university decided to remove the NUS logos from our student cards, meaning we couldn't use them for the discounts we were entitled to. They also did this without consulting the Students' Union, which everyone was so furious about that they reinstated it the next year - but not before a whole new generation of students (and the thousands that hadn't kept their cards from the year before) had missed out on their student discount.
These cards are also used around campus for many things including the library, library room bookings, general ID and entering buildings and rooms. The university decided anyone who was careless enough to lose theirs had to pay £20 for a replacement, despite the fact that they cost £5 to make. After a big uproar about it, they finally agreed to reduce the price - I think it's at £10 - and they are still making money on it.
Overall, though I had some good experiences at Nottingham uni, and some of the lecturers are world leaders in what they do, there are a lot of underlying issues I have with how things are run that you don't see from looking at the pretty campus and the general reputation.
If you are interested in applying here (or to any UK university), I would recommend skipping the Open Days and instead walking into a random lecture or two - trust me, no one will know you don't belong there - and then you can see what it's really like before making a decision.
I am just about to enter my final undergraduate year at Nottingham university. I had originally meant to go to Kings College London but due to illness and home sickness I took a gap year and decided to go to Nottingham instead. And there has not been one moment that I have regretted this decision.
Nottingham has recieved an enormous amount of bad press. Its high gun crime and burglary rates are well publicised. But you will find none of this at Nottingham university! That is what is so great about going to unversity with a campus. The main campus is situated outside the city centre just off the ring road, between Lenton and Beeston. This is a perfect location. There is plenty of convenient and easy public transport links into the city centre. Its near residential areas and so easy for students looking to live out in their 2nd and 3rd years and right next to the Queens Medical Centre and so perfect for nurses and doctors.
The campus itself is large, green and hilly. It has a picturesque lake near the north entrance and many large green areas to relax or play on a warms summer day. I dont think i've ever been on to campus without seeing a squirrel which is fantastic lol. There are also loads and loads of magpies around which is great if you're superstitious ;) There are absolutely beautiful buildings on site including the Trent and Portland building. The Portland building houses the Student Union. The library is called Hallward library and is just undergoing a renevation so will be all new and shiny soon. It has 4 floors in total with thousands of books and is accessible only with a swipe card. It has photocopying, computers, internet cafe, micro-film viewers and everything you would expect from a library. Dont ever be late handing in a short loan book though as the fines are hefty.
There is a brand new bar and nightclub on campus. They're not huge but they have a great atmosphere. Of course all prices are reasonable as its for students. There are many cafes spread out around the place and most halls of residences have their own bar. The fitness centre and sports centre are open to everyone if you pay the joining fees although they aernt cheap. However I absolutely love the fitness centre and dont mind paying for it. Its got everyhting you want from a gym, you can also hire headsets so you can listen to music or the t.v.s if you havent got your own music. People of all ages and sizes can be found in the gym which proves there is a comfortable and friendly atmosphere.
I cant tell you much about the halls of residences on campus as I was never in one of them. There are quite a few scattered around all of them catered. You are given a dining card so that you dont have to return to your halls during the day for lunch. There are set meal times but I'm told they are quite open and happy to accomodate difficult eating arrangements or needs.
I was in an off campus accomodation called Broadgate Park which is literally 2 minute walk on the West of the campus. Its located in Beeston, 5 minutes from a massive Sainsburys. I was in a flat with 5 others with a shared kitchen but ensuite facilities. You really do get what you pay for on Broadgate Park. I loved my flat but I paid the higher prices. If you dont then the quality drops a lot. There are other off campus accomodation at St. Peters court and Raleigh Park which are also self-catered. These are further from the university located nearer to Lenton and could take up to 20 mins to walk to the unviersity from here.
There is a doctors and dentists on site. All students are expected to register with the health service. Which is convenient especially when NHS dentists are so hard to come by. There is a boots pharmacy right next to the doctors and a boots is also located in the Portland building. The university counseling service can be found in the Trent building and they offer a number of courses to help with any problems you may have as well as one to one sessions.
There is a careers service also located in the Portland building with a good careers library and plenty of information to try and guide you. The Portland building also has an insurance agency, a travel agency, a Blackwells bookshop, hairdressers, HSBC and a Nat West.
There is a great student support system for anyone with disabilities or problems. They will make arrangements for note takers, library browsers, transport and DSA or anything else they can think of to help you. This is located in the Portland building too.
There is a wide range of courses that are available for you to take. From Ancient History to Medicine to Engineering. Nottingham is one of the top universities in the country. The student population is extremely diverse, all races and ages study there. There is a course for everyone. There are also hundreds of different societies to join, all of which can be find promoting themselves at the annual freshers fayre when you arrive. This includes an active theatre company who perform at the unviersities lakeside theatre.
Nottingham City also greatly caters for the student population there are great deals around in town for money off and the bars and clubs have special nights for just university students.
I have greatly enjoyed my first two years here and am looking forward to embarking on my third year. I think Nottingham is a great campus university with fantastic facilities and a beautiful setting. I would definately recommend any perspective student to go and look around the campus and think about studying at Nottingham University.
* The Campus:
Having visited a number of campuses, I would say Nottingham definitely is the most beautiful. It is definitely the greenest, and it has a stunning lake in the centre (complete with swans, ducks and boats) and the Millenium Gardens are a beautiful place to walk around. As well as buildings for lectures, there are bars, eateries, Blackwell's bookshop, Boots, a Student Union shop and even a hairdressers. The Lakeside Arts Centre is the perfect place to take the parents for a bite to eat and to see a showcase of local artistic talent, and there is a fantastic sports centre complete with swimming pool and several tennis courts (though be warned the joining fees are extortionate!).
* The Courses:
Obviously I only took the one course (Classics), but I cannot rate the teaching high enough. The lecturers are friendly and extremely helpful, and genuinely interested in your opinions (which makes a nice change from school!). Nottingham offers a wide range of courses, although it is particularly science based (and consequently facilities tend to favour these subjects). Unfortunately a lot of the courses get over-subscribed, on the day you sign up for modules I would recommend getting up early to avoid disappointment!
* The Societies:
Nottingham Uni has a huge range of clubs and societies to join to keep any student occupied. There are the usual sports clubs, political, religious and course-related societies, and the more unusual clubs, such as Hide N' Soc (a club solely devoted to playing games like Tig and Manhunt that you used to love as a kid) or Cocksoc (the unfortunately named Cocktail making club).
* The Nightlife:
Nottingham boasts more bars per square mile than anywhere else in the UK, which means a great range of bars and clubs to suit all tastes. For the more up-market there is Coco Lounge and Tantra, for the alternative crowd there is the indie hotspot the Bodega and the Cookie Club, and for those looking for a cheap and cheerful night out there is Ocean and Oceana. If you're too lazy to leave campus, the Uni has a range of entertainment available. There is the New Theatre (the Uks only entirely student run theatre), Mooch (the staple bar) and Campus 14 (the famed bar crawl around all 14 bars on campus).
* Safety:
Nottingham doesn't have the best reputation concerning crime - in my third year I was two blocks down from the most robbed street in the UK (Kimbolton Ave) and the cash machine most likely to get mugged outside of (next to the Savoy cinema). But I must say, in my three years not one incident happened to me - of course you hear about things happening, but providing you always lock doors and windows, and make sure you don't walk around late at night on your own, Nottingham isn't that dangerous!
* The City:
The city centre is a fantastic place for shopping, eating out and generally having fun. There are a number of galleries and museums dotted around, Nottingham Castle (for Robin Hood enthusiasts), parks such as Wollaston Hall and the oldest pub in Britain!
I graduated from the University of Nottingham this summer (July 2008) with a 2:1 in Law, and I can say without a doubt it was the best three years of my life. Everyone hears the cliches about University life being the best you'll ever have, and I took it with a pinch of salt, but Nottingham has certainly changed my mind on that one.
I don't know how much can actually be attributed to the University itself, but my confidence has grown beyond belief, I've learnt to be independent and I've gained a qualification from a University that's top 10 in my subject.
Above and beyond this, however, are the friendships I've made. The people I've met, lived with, spent hour upon hour with, laughed and cried with are honestly people I can say I'll be friends with for the rest of my life. And I do think that's got a lot to do with the University's selection process. I've never met such a wide variety of people - different backgrounds, different cultures, different interests and upbringings, but there's something about being in the same situation and going through the same things that just creates a bond between you.
The University itself is absolutely stunning - it's set in acres of gorgeous, gorgeous landscaped surroundings and this was honestly what set Nottingham apart from all my other choices during the visit days - it was such a beautiful place, and I could really imagine myself living there. Yes, the city does have a reputation as being the gun capital of the UK, but you really don't see a lot of that when you're on campus, and as long as you're careful and sensible around town, particularly at night, then I really do think the reputation is a little bit exaggerated.
Aside from this, the teaching is top class, the staff really seem to care (which I found out when I was having doubts about my course) and the facilities are moe than you could ever need. There are somewhere around 12-14 catered halls on campus, and every one of them definitely has its advantages. They'll make you feel incredibly welcome, with lots of freshers week events to allow you to make friends. I was in Lenton and Wortley Hall during my first year, and they'd actually arranged the rooms so that we were grouped together by interest (such as those who played a musical instrument) - it really helps when you have a starting factor in common! There aer also a number of self-catered halls off campus for first years, but that does more than double your commute to lectures, and a lot of people I knew said their halls didn't quite have the community feel that the on-campus catered halls had. They did, however, have the freedom to cook the food they liked when they liked, rather than queuing up for sometimes questionable hall food!
In conclusion I'd have to say that if anyone's even remotely hesitant when considering Nottingham as a University, I really would urge you not to be, as you'll have the time of your life.
The University of Nottingham is renowned for its stunning campus which is a major factor as to why this university is so popular. Not only is the campus beautiful with a wealth of flora and fauna including its own woodland, but it also has a tranquil stream and lake which is home to a good deal of wildlife.
On the campus there are 11 halls of residence each of which has its own community and common rooms. After living in a hall of residence you get a sense of belonging. I lived in Hugh Stewart Hall for my first year and loved it. During my time there was a popular bar, nestled in with the willow trees, and was the hub of activity, but this has now, I believe, been changed into a café.
A short walk from the Halls are the academic buildings. The architecture of the buildings adds to the charm of the campus. There are a variety of buildings some from the 60s, the atrium which holds the bookshop, restaurants and student shop has newly been built, but the gem of Nottingham's buildings is without a doubt the Trent Building.
Aside from learning in a beautiful location, the University of Nottingham benefits from it social and sporting activities, there is always something going on to get your teeth into. Nottingham is considered one of the UK's finest universities and is regularly in the top ten universities. I think a major reason for this is the university's encouragement to try different forms of learning. There are many schemes for students to study abroad, and I spent my third year in America which was the climax of my studies. They have a campus in Malaysia and are linked to universities all over the globe. The encouragement to travel and study is, I think, part of the understanding that you don't just learn in a library but you learn through life experiences too.
The university is situated 30 minutes away from Lenton which is where most students live out in their second and third years. Lenton is an area of regular housing but is unlike any normal city living as this area houses predominantly students and so has a great community spirit.
The university has regular transport into Nottingham which is an up and coming city. The history and shopping are well combined to appeal to all. Bars and restaurants are aplenty and allow a welcome break from study.
The University does have a student union bar on campus, but this is very small compared to other unis. This is partly due to each Hall having its own bar, but there may be plans to increase the size of the union. I think the union really needs to be made bigger as it would encourage more performances and more socialising on campus. Each year the summer party is held on the downs - a grassy field which is surrounded by the Halls. The summer party is a great Nottingham tradition as it celebrates the end of exams and has a fantastic festival feeling.
The University of Nottingham continues to be one of the most popular unis as there are often 10 applicants per place - depending on the subject of course.
I thoroughly enjoyed my time at Nottingham and think that this stunning campus university encourages the right blend of academia and socialising.
Personally I think that Nottingham University is great. Here is why:
Campus: The campus is gorgeous! It spans abour 300 acres, has large areas of open green space (where they hold a music festical every summer after exams), botanical gardens and a large park complete with boating lake. Its a great place to live in your first year and a great place to study for the entire length of your course. There is none of the dreariness found in city campuses and its great having everything in one place. If you have lectures in one of the other campuses then there are free buses put on so there is no problem getting there. The campus is only a ten minute bus ride from town, so you are still close enough to everything to have a good time!
Student Housing: There is an abundance of student housing in Nottingham. Rent ranges from £50 to £80 a week depending on where you live and how big your house is.
There are 3 main areas that students usually choose to live in. The first is Lenton. About halfway between uni and the city centre (about 20 mins walk) its the perfect place to live. The place is full of students so there are lots of bars, talkeaways, gyms, and there is even a small cinema! Its quite lively, but if you are after a 'work hard party hard' lifestyle then this is the place to go. Its fairly expensive to live here (about £70 per week is average) but its prime location.
The next place in Dunkirk. This is right next to uni, so if you have issues getting out of bed in the morning this is the place for you! The average rent is around £55-60 per week so its cheaper than lenton, but there isn't really much to do. There are no supermarkets, bars etc. so you will spend a lot more money on t axis and buses into town.
The last place in Beeston. This is where to live if you want a quiet life. Its a small suburb on nottingham with its own little town cente. Its got more charity shops per person than any other part of the country! There are loads of nice pubs and plenty of shops to do your shopping. Its on the whole a lot more chilled out than lenton.
Crime: this may put some people off coming to uni. Stats say there is the highest level of burglary here. You can't really argue with that. I hd my room broken into while I was in halls, but as your rent in the first year covers insurance, I got a new computer straight away and the campus security fixed my window and all was fine. I've not had any trouble since moving into private accomodation and I'm in my fourth year now!
The Students Union: This is mainly all situtated in the Portland building on campus. There are two main student bars here, Mooch and The Venue. The Venue is where club nights, live music and stand up comedy all take place. Its where the Ark used to be for all those who knew Nottingham well a few years ago! Mooch is a chilled out bar with comfy sofas, pool tables and cheap tasty food. Also situated in the portland building is an Endsleigh Insurance Shop, Student Radio, Print Shop, Hairdressers, Chapel, Record Library, and most of the societies have a base here.
The Sports Centre: The sports centre is great while you are living on campus as its so close and the facilities are great. The only downside is that it can be quite expensive. Once you have moved away from campus, its quite easy to find local sports centre that cost a lot less money to use.
I can't really think of anything else to talk about now! I really like it here. Its got a really nice atmosphere, the study facilities are great for my chemical engineering (can't really comment on other courses), and the town inself is great. If you get the chance to attend an open day I would really recommend it, that way you can make up our own mind. :)
And as Hillcrestan has commented, Nottingham has a great music scene. Rock City is one of the best 'non arena' venues I've been to and there are a whole host of smaller venues that cater for small and local bands. Check out Captain Dangerous (an up and coming local band) on www.myspace.com/captaindangerous. :) Great Stuff
After one year studying psychology at Nottingham I must say that the university exceeded my expectations. After leading a boring life in high school, this university certainly sparked up my life wonderfully.
First of all, the campus is full of greenery, and is beautiful for walks. If you stroll around the lake, you will forget that you are in a university and will be absorbed by its beauty. If one desires more nature, Wollaton Park is right next door. Lots of deer can be found here, and this park also has its own lake, as well as Wollaton Hall. The park even holds its own mini museum.
The student's union is excellent, and although the Ark (student union bar + club on weekends) plays very cheesy music on weekends...we all love cheese anyway don't we? The prices are fairly reasonable.
The location is excellent the campus is far enough from the hustle and bustle of the city, but close enough to do shopping and go clubbing (10 mins by bus). I was blown away by the city centre as well a mini-London. A lovely town, Beeston, is also in close range to the campus, and it provides for student's needs. I was especially pleased to find shops selling international food, as I am used to eating Asian food.
Weekone was most amazing, and I was impressed by how much the student union put effort into organizing the myriad of parties and events. I mean, fire spurted out from the stage during the orientation!
Now to the most important bit education. I am currently studying for a psychology degree. I found the work challenging but absorbing. It was great to be surrounded by very intelligent people: it really pushes you to try hard and think. If you don't like big classes be warned: classes could get very large (up to 300+ people). However I was pleased by the tutorial system in which classes were eight students to one professor.
One thing that I noticed was that Nottingham was truely a 'work hard, play hard' uni. People there really DO party like crazy! If you are not a party person you may find this quite uncomfortable. I personally party in moderation, and found that when living in halls the noisy, drunk neighbours could get *very* annoying when I was trying to study.
A final point when people decide whether or not to choose Nottingham they find the crime rate an issue. I personally had no problems, but I did hear of occasional muggings and a friend of mine did encounter a sicko. I think there's no problem really, if you stay sensible and always have a friend by your side at night. Nottingham is just like any old big city.
Although I have only spent one year in Nottingham, I can say it was one of the best decisions of my life, and recommend anyone to apply!
Some may feel that I am not really qualified to comment on university life in Nottingham as I do not actually go to university there. However, I have lived in Nottingham for most of my life, my mother works as a lecturer at Nottingham university and I have many friends at the university (and also Nottingham Trent).
Firstly, I think the best and most important thing about Nottingham is the campus. It is one of the few universities to have such a nice enclosed campus and beats most of the others (e.g. Warwick) hands down in terms of scenery and ease of access. The campus has everything from a boating lake to a top (newish) sports centre. Although you will only find freshers living there, most of the student housing is along Derby Road which is just outside the campus. This ensures that the year groups mix well and you will always be bumping into people you know.
Everyone that I have talked to about Nottingham goes on about the infamous 3-1 female-male ratio. Although i can confirm that this is sadly for the guys NOT true, the benefits of Trent university in the city centre more than makes up for any lack of talent, with their many media/art etc students.
The nightlife in Nottingham is not like that of most other student dominated cities. The atmosphere is generally more chilled out and trendy rather than boistrous and rowdy. Areas of note include Hockley and the Lace Market which focus on trendy bars (e.g. Browns) and intimate clubs (e.g. Market Bar, Lizard Lounge) rather than the superclubs of Leeds and Manchester for example. There are nights out to cater for everyone from the newly opened Mode (RnB) or Works (cheese/other) to Market Bar (funky house).
Finally, the accomodation for students is also relatively cheap (around £70), although it is provided on campus for the first year. As mentioned earlier, most of the houses are close to campus, and on the road to the city centre. The quality of the accomodation varies but as long as you start looking early (around the turn of the year), it should be fine.
P.S. Nottingham isn't too bad academically either!
OK, since I've finished my first year at Nottingham now, so I feel like I can write something about it that might be useful for people thiking of going to this University. I first went to Nottingham on an open day as most people do. The first thing you notice if you've been to other universities is how big and green it is. Of the top of my head the figure 330 acres springs to mind, so, if that sounds about right, then thats how big it is. I could be hopeless wrong and thinking of something else, but I'm quite sure it?s that. The university was built on land donated by the Boots family (as in the high street shop). I presume there was nothing much there before as where there hasn't been any buildings built, the campus is mostly grass. There's also a reasonably large lake and also other nice areas such as the millennium gardens (that?ll mean nothing to most people but I?ll give some links at the end). As I live near London, it was quite different to seeing universities near me! Of course the large nature of the campus itself can mean that you end up walking for up to 20 minutes to lectures, though this depends which halls you are in and what subject you do. I was in Cavendish Hall, one of three that is furthest away from the main teaching buildings which meant a walk of about 10-15 minutes for attending most lectures which was normally quite pleasant and there is a bus service around campus if you're lazy or its raining. Apart from the bus, some people do bring cars, but not that many really. Students living in hall are discouraged from taking there cars by the fact that there isn't a lot of parking space and you run a realistic risk of getting fined or clamped if you don't have permission to park where you have parked. I don't drive myself so I may be slightly biased on this issue, but I think this is a g
ood thing really, as public transport into and around Nottingham is pretty good and taxi services aren't that expensive especially as most places you go you will normally be sharing a cab with 3 or 4 other people. Getting a taxi into town will cost about 6 or 7 pounds most of the time and split between five that?s only a little more than getting the bus. Talking of going into town, the chances are that you?ll be doing this a lot in the first year. Nottingham has a range of good clubs and bars, many of which you will probably have been to within the first week or two. Week One, fresher?s week, is a time where you should be going out pretty much every night and meeting a lot of people on the way. Make sure you do meet most people in your hall at this point. Oh and yes, you will forget everyone?s name and everyone will forget yours, but it?s never a problem. I was quite lucky in that I made friends with most of my friends within the first week and we formed a group early on. However this isn?t always the case and its quite normal for people to meet not the people they end up moving in with the next year right at the start. That?s the point I?m at but there?s no point in worrying about that yet if you?re not there! Halls are by far where you will spend most of your time and its very likely that most of your friends you make will be from there rather than from your course, though again, I must qualify this by saying I?m doing economics which is quite a popular course and on courses with less people on them you will see the same people more often in lectures and tutorials and get to know them more. I found on my course though that nearly all the people I know by name on my course are those who are (were :( sniff sniff? ) in my hall. One, may the only disappointing thing in my first year is that its completely true that the Student Union does very little indee
d. There are a lot of societies to join but I?m sure a lot do much. There are societies for each nearly every subject I think (there was no sociology society last year but a friend of mine is starting one next year), which can be good in order to get to know people on your course, but I found myself interested in few others and friends of mine that joined societies to try something new, for example the archery society or badminton society, found that events are not that often and that just because you are a member does not mean things will be free, sometimes just cheaper than for non-members. I found myself going to few union related activities and you could very easily go to none. The problem I think is that it is easiest to sign up for societies in the first week and few people decide to go and try something new by themselves. This means that unless you?ve already met friends who also want to try the same thing, you will either have to pluck up the courage to try something new all alone, or miss out. Probably the group I?ve participated most in which many people do not because they don?t know much about it is Karni, which is a charity group run by students at the University. In fact I believe it?s the biggest student charity organisation in the world, though that could be propaganda I?ve been fed. I?m sure it?s at least the biggest in the country though. Now you?ve probably already lost interest since I mentioned the word charity. Most people do. I must confess that when I first heard what they had to say I didn?t really believe the line, ?I know it sounds cr*p but its really good, honest?, but its true. For the first few months, they take groups of students from uni to different cities around the UK (Sheffield, Newcastle, Liverpool, Leeds and Edinburgh to name a few) and then you collect money for a certain charity while you?re
there. And then get a bus home. Or, that?s what its meant to be. This is hard to do while trying not to tarnish the name of a charity group? Actually, most people collect for 2 or 3 hours properly throughout the day and get to have lunch out and spend an hour or two around a new city, going shopping, meeting friends, or staying in a pub and watching the footy (its always on saturdays). The ride back to uni then consists of erm, to put it politely, relaxing with a drink or two of the famous Karni cocktail and ?banter? between different halls sharing a bus, ending with a night out at the union bar. Now, although clearly the fun can be said to start when the work ends, some of the most memorable bits are spent collecting (often dressed up) and meeting people in the street. Meeting war veterans thanking you for collecting for the poppy appeal and people who have benefited from the work of a cancer charity you are collecting for are touching experiences and I have often found myself lost for words. I also remember a security guard at Gap in Newcastle who I thought I had been annoying by standing just outside the shop and pestering every customer that came in for several hours, so when I went inside for a second to warm up my numb hands I was not expecting him to congratulate me on the great job I was doing rather than throwing me out. Errm, I can?t think of anything else to say about the university or Nottingham, so I guess that?s it. If anyone is thinking of going and has any questions, feel free to comment or ask me on tooyoo. I don?t have much else to do till I go on holiday! Also, have a look at the University website (www.nottingham.ac.uk) and the BBC website is good too, to find out about Nottingham in general, student life and see some 360-views of the university without actually being there (www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham). Dan <
While the University of Nottingham is highly regarded, it manages to avoid the stigma and social stunting associated with the Oxford Cambridge experience. I am a third year student completing my final year of a BSC in Computer Science. I spent my first year on the main campus, in Rutland Hall. The second year I spent in a rented house in Radford. I took the third year off, and took up a placement with IBM. This year I have returned to complete my degree, and am again living in rented accomodation, but this time Computer Science and Business has moved to a new Campus, 1/2 a mile from the main campus, The Jubilee Campus. Ok, so lets start with my course. Having always intended to take a Computer Science course, I originally choose the course here for a number of reasons, which I will come to later. The main academic reason is that it allows a great deal of flexibility. For example, within this final year, the only compuldsary work is to do a dissertation, though the subject on which it is based is fully at your own discretion. I then had the oportunity to the choose all of the modules I am taking. While not easy, the course does allow the hard working to get good marks. Unlike some courses, an intelligent hard worker will definately be able to attain a first. In my first year I opted to stay in halls. This made life easier with meals included, and made it much easier to make friends, which everyone does with great ease. Within a month everyone is settled in with friends who share interests and get on well. The work load is not too demanding this year, and the social calendar is superb. Wednesday nights is spent clubbing it away at ISIS, on a purely Nottingham University student night. This makes for an excellent night of varied music without the unwanted attentions fo drunken "townies" looking for mischief. Sports are a big part of the uni life for those who choose to partake. Wednesday afternoons are always free from lectu
res, and all sports are arranged for this time. One of the main non-academoic reasons for choosing this university is the campus. THe main campus is mostly grass and trees, and includes a large lake, and waterfall, and provides a most romantic walk at night as one of the more attractive buildings is lit up across the lake at night. There are also a number of football pitches and a double astrioturff arrea for hockey and football. There is also 2 large sports halls and a swimming pool. There are many many bars on campus, infact a first year tradition is to attempt the "Campus 14", that is a drink in each one of the bars. Few will survive! ONe of the few weaknesses of this fine University is the lack of a good Union. YOu will be unlikely to every experience anything Union related in your entire stay. Having made a great set of friends in my first year, we set out to livge in a house in the second year. We choose to live in Radford, which has its pros and cons. The main student area is :Lenton, a minutes walk from Radford. Radford is far cheaper rent, and we actually had a nicer house (on the inside) than most. However, the insurance bracket for Radford is the same as for Moss Side!!! You have been warned. A tip for you. IF you want to be with the other students in Lenton, choose a house with an alarm. While many student houses get broken into, very very few with alarms suffer this fate. This year was perhaps my most favourite year. Town is only a 15 minute walk away, were Rileys provides snooker entertainment all night long. The Savot cinema is a matter of metres from the centre of Lenton, and even the bigger Showcase cinema, and ISIS are only 20 minutes walk. The work load is slightly larger this year, and it starts to count, but there is still pleanty of time for fun. Now my one real fault with this University is that they do not encourage students to take a year out. It is certainly ont part of the courses, and you must
do all the work to get a place yoruself. And if like me you do choose to take a year out, you will likely find that all your friends stay on and finish their degree, leaving you to return to make a new set of friends for your final year. But despite this, I do definately recommend it. While my new friends are all scrambling for jobs, I already have a definate job, returning to IBM where I took my year out. My third year is again going well. The only downside is that having taken a year in industry I feel a little mature for the Uni life, but I think all third years feel that way, and for most the endless partying is replaced by a slightly frequent partying, and mroe casual drinking and socialising. this year is again enjoyable, but I must admit, I cant wait to stop revising and working fro deadlines, and join the world of work. This year, as meantioned earlier, my degree is located on a new campus. This is very modern, but extremely pleasant. There is a lake and some interesting buildings. There are three halls, and the site is completely self sufficient. So, overall Nottingham is a fantastic University. I would recommend it to anyone. Geta place in halls in the first year, and prepare for the rollercoaster ride that you will remember for the rest of your life.
The University of Nottingham campus really is the best I've seen. I spent my first year there before transferring to Leeds to complete my degree (for other reasons). The differenct between Leeds and Nottingham really made me realise how nice Nottingham is. The Nottingham campus is green...that's the only way to describe it! There are loads of trees, paths and a lake aswell. All 14 halls of residence are on campus and so are the 14 bars. One of the first things everbody does in their first year is the Campus 14 which means going to all 14 bars in one evening. Nearby is Beeston (only 5 minutes walk) where there are a further 14 bars. Everybody seems to do the Beeston 14 in Freshers week (probably to try to kill off the weaker freshers!!) The atmosphere on campus is great. Everbody knows how to work hard and play hard! It's easy to work and not feel pressured to go out but at the same time if you do want to have a night out there'e plenty to do and plenty of people to do it with! Nottingam City Centre is only 10 minutes drive (or taxi ride) away. There are plenty of shops to keep you occupied on a Saturday afternoon and also plenty of clubs and bars for the night time. Nottingham is a great night out any day of the week! I'm now at Leeds which is in the middle of Leeds City Centre and there is no tree in sight! It is all concrete and steps. Never mind! It's still a good night out aswell :)


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And Phil Simms has said he likes Luck quite a bit and is fine with his arm strength since then.
Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.
Also, are we really referencing Bill Parcells? Do we need to go back to his days with the Cowboys and all the ****** QBs he trotted out there. Dude is a terrible talent scout as he has gotten older.
So much for his inability to keep teams honest.
You have no idea what you're talking about, you just talk. You throw a silly RGIII comparison into every single post even when nobody else mentions him just because you think it annoys people. I mean, there's really no other purpose for it.
I seem to remember Blu having respect for Mel Kiper's opinion. So here's one for Blu.
Hi Mel, what do you make of Andrew Luck's arm strength? I love Luck, but he does seem to have a pretty weak arm, and guys like Simms and even Mayock have seemed to question it.
Mel Kiper (1:06 PM)
It's not a weak part of his game. You don't need to have a Howitzer of an arm. Peyton Manning doesn't have a great arm. Joe Montana does not have a great arm. Luck's arm strength is well above average. His arm strength is not an issue. Will he have one of the five strongest arms when he comes in? No. But his accuracy, anticipation, awareness....Not having Owusu in that game with his speed really impacted their offense negatively against Oregon. The only thing you can say about his arm strength is it isn't elite.
You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....
Smothered Chicken!
Arm strength is overrated. When was the last time a "howizter" won a SB? Favre in 1997? Maybe Kurt Warner in 2000? Warner could air it out, but I never really considered him to have a Favre-like cannon.
How many "cannons" have been in the NFL since Favre entered? I can think of.... just a few. Stafford... Cutler. Supposedly Flacco can throw a heater and a bomb, but you just never see it. Brady can throw it, but it didn't seem like he really hammered it or bombed it in the early 2000s.
Either way... cannons aren't usually how I measure a quarterback.
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There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.
He can throw the ball 70 yards. Don't know what your talking about when you say his arm strength is overrated
Smothered Chicken!
I've always viewed Brady and Manning as pretty even in arm strength. Neither of them as super elite in that category.
Here's the thing, arm strength starts to give diminishing returns. Oh you can throw the ball 80 yards? Who gives a F, no one on your team can run that far. Oh you can throw it 100 mile per hour? Again who cares, no one on your team can catch it. Once you reach a certain plateau in the NFL of arm strength it matters less and less, Luck is on that plateau, he is where he needs to be for this category. It's nice to have the extra strength, it can help you a little when throwing on the run or under pressure, but it's not essential. I mean heck, look at some of the throws Luck has made on the run, they have been burners.
You need to re-read my post, because you completely misread me. I didn't say "his" arm strength is over-rated. I've been one of the proponents of Luck's arm strength on this forum for months, or have you not paid attention, lol. He's got damn good arm strength. If anything, Luck's arm strength is under-rated.
My point was, arm strength on the whole is over-rated, there's a lot more to quarterbacking than arm strength. People like OlBlu seem to hang their hat completely on arm strength.
Last edited by Kid Minneapolis; 09-27-2012 at 10:13 AM.
There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.
I can't do it anymore. I really can't. I'm sorry, but OlBlu, **** OFF! Go troll somewhere else. I don't give a **** anymore if the admins decide to keep you around and ban me. I can't enjoy the board anyway so if that's what they decide to do, then they deserve to have you. If someone has to be the sacrificial lamb to tell you to go to hell and get the **** out of here and leave us the hell alone then let it be me. You're nothing but an attention whore troll despite your constant blathering that you aren't a troll and you're being "picked on". You know full well what you are doing and in fact love the fact that people end up posting about you and to you instead of discussing the topic at hand. You're just some loser with a deep seeded desire to feel important and this is how you do it, by attempting to make the posters here pay attention to you. I realize that by making this post, I'm giving you EXACTLY what you want. But you know what, that's OK. You won't have to worry about me anymore as long as you're here. I'm calling you out for the troll you are. **** you and the troll horse you rode in on you ****ing trollfaced troll!
Infraction +1. (or more maybe, but it's all true and I don't regret a word so lecturing me isn't gonna help much...)
Dude, use the ignore user feature
No one is worth getting banned over. You are a good poster, do not get banned for something stupid like this.
sounded like that you were saying that Luck's arm strength was overrated.
Smothered Chicken!
I always gave the advantage to Brady when talking about arm strength but what does that matter when most of Bradys career was about the short throws and most of Mannings career was the bombs to Marvin and Wayne.
Just to summarize Olblu thinks that Luck would be a BUST but has also said that he thinks he would be a decent QB in likes of Kerry Collins. Which one is it I don't know?
Either way apparently Cam Newton was his QB of the next generation and there off to the same miserable start the Colts are and he has more TO than Luck.
Last edited by Gamble1; 09-27-2012 at 12:17 PM.
Actually.... not really, lol... you just skimmed over it.
There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.
haha i did
Smothered Chicken!
Aaron Rodgers? Ben Rothlisberger? Those two guys have SB rings
As far as who's in the league....Jay Cutler, Stafford (whom you mentioned) Vick still has a cannon as well.
Edit: I'll also agree that Arm Strength is way overrated. Most QB with monster arm's fail to work hard on other parts of their game (accuracy, ball placement, footwork, etc) because they've always gotten away with just zipping the ball past defenders.
Look at Cam Newton. Dude has a GUN for a right arm. But, he often makes throws that aren't catchable because of poor footwork.
Pretty much 90% of the league can chuck the ball 70 yards down the field. But its the times when you need to fit a ball into a tight window when a team is in man coverage, that's when arm strength is most important. And that's truly how you gague a QB's arm strength.
I think Luck has maybe an above average arm. Pretty good, but probably not top 10. But you don't need to have a top 10 arm to be a top 10 QB. In fact, I think the harder luck tries to throw the ball, the less accurate he is. On that INT against the Jags, he tried to zip a pass into tight coverage, and COMPLETELY overthrew the intended receiver. However, when he's on the run and is more worried about the DE that's chasing him, and less worried about how much zip to put on the ball, his arm seems pretty strong. Luck may be one of those QB's that just throws better on the run (Jake Plummer, Matt Schaub, Elway, Rodgers to name a few)
Once Luck masters ball placement, his lack of "elite" arm strength (Rodgers, Big Ben, etc) won't matter. Hell, it hasn't really mattered all that much anyways (with the exception of that interception against the Bears)
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For those curious, here are Luck's projected stats (thanks to ESPN), compared to Peyton's rookie stats, and, for a more contemporary comparison, Matt Ryan.
Okay I missed Rodgers. Roethlisberger.... I guess you could throw in there, although I've always regarded his strength as his ability to improvise and extend plays. He does have a decent arm, though. I still stand by my point, though, that having a cannon for an arm isn't really a requirement for success.
There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.
Or you could go sniff Manning's jock while he throws a 10 yard dart on the final play of the game when his team needed 70 yards to win.
Yees, he throws those dink passes very well. He is going to have lots of yards, he is chucking it 50 times a game or so.... How about yards per attempt? I don't have to go to the Arena League to see a good long pass, all I have to do is tune in to RGIII...... ...
OlBlu isn't a Colts fan, he's a 'Skin fan and Bronco fan. No need to keep feeding the troll, he's just lookin' for a reaction to his absurd comments.
There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.
I was a Colts fan in the early 1960s. I still am but I do realize how inept their management is. I also see how inept their coaching staff really is. I also see that the "most pro ready QB in NFL history" is merely another in a long list of "can't miss" prospects. I see good things from him and I see many bad things too. What I see about RGIII is that he is a superstar right now..... ...
I also am not a troll. I state reasons for my opinions. I try to look at everything and I don't drink the Irsay Koolaid.... ...