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PHOENIX -- Gerardo Parra's struggles against left-handers last year were well documented.
Parra hit just .198 against southpaws and with no homers and four RBIs.
Determined to change that, Parra made some adjustments in his stance, keeping his hands closer to his body and relaxing his front leg more. The idea was to get him to use his hands more and stay back, rather than fly open.
It's obviously too soon to say if the changes are a success or not, but Monday's home opener was a good start, as Parra singled and drove in two runs against Giants lefty Madison Bumgarner, putting him halfway to his total from last year.
"I feel more comfortable against them," Parra said. "I don't put too much pressure on myself against them now."
D-backs manager Kirk Gibson played Parra against lefties more often during Spring Training and also put him in simulated games against them.
"He changed his whole setup," Gibson said. "His setup is different, his hands are different, he's trying to put himself in better position."
So far, so good.
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MERIDIAN, Idaho (KBOI) - Investigators still have a lot of work to do in determining what caused a house fire in Meridian that left a man dead.
The fire was called in at 11:30 p.m. Thursday night, near Black Cat and Chinden. The home is a total loss, and now detectives are trying to figure out what happened to the man and if the fire was lit on purpose.
Ada County Sheriff's deputies have been on scene all day Friday, and still consider it an active scene because they're investigating it as an arson. Neighbors in the area say it's surprising that something like that could have happened in such a quiet area.
"I woke when the fire truck went by," neighbor Mike Siron said. "Anytime a fire truck goes by around here you're awake immediately."
Mike Siron calls this area a small, quiet agricultural community. Last night he says loud sirens tipped him off that something was wrong.
"We walked down to the end of the lane where you can see across the field and the flames were like 50 to 60 feet in the air," he said. "It just went so fast, it was like within an hour the house was gone."
Siron has lived in his home down the street for 30 years. He says the family had lived in their home for longer than that.
"I thought everyone was okay because I saw people in blankets watching the blaze which is heartbreaking to see that, someone losing their home for so many years.
Ada County Sheriff's deputies have confirmed a body was found in the garage. Siron believes it was his neighbor, who he says was also a great friend.
"It's heartbreaking actually," he said. "It's almost unfathomable for me. It's so strange because we're just kind of old-fashioned in this area, these kinds of things don't happen out here."
Neighbors have told KBOI a man named Kenton Brandel lives in the burned home. However, investigators and the Ada County Coroner's Office have not identified the man who was found in the garage. The coroner's report doesn't specify on the cause or manner of death either. That information is expected to be available next week.


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Westboro Baptist Church plans protest at soldier's funeral
CORVALLIS, Ore. - Army Ranger Cody James Patterson gave his life to save others on a mission to stop a suicide bomber in Afghanistan.
The mission stopped the bombing.
Patterson and three other soldiers didn't make it back.
As family and friends prepare to honor the Philomath High School graduate this Sunday at Oregon State University, a church known for picketing the funerals of soldiers said they plan to protest.
Westboro Baptist Church claims Patterson and other fallen soldiers died in vain, slain by God's wrath for "the homosexual and other sins of America."
"To deny us our First Amendment rights is to declare to the world that Pfc. Patterson died in vain and that America is nation of sodomite hypocrites," the church claims.
Patterson's friends are planning a counter protest.
"We want to be completely peaceful, and we want to just represent the country that he fought and died for by having the American flag out here to keep the signs covered," said Joseph Hedberg, a National Guard veteran.
Past protests by Westboro have featured signs with slogans like "Pray for More Dead Soldiers."
The Topeka, Kansas, church said the message will be peacefully preached this Sunday in Corvallis at Patterson's memorial service at the LaSells Stewart Center.
That doesn't sit well with Patterson's friends.
"It's heart-wrenching in itself because I couldn't imagine being in that family and knowing that this is going to happen at their son's funeral when all they're trying to do is put him at peace," said Alaura Granados.
Hedberg made a Facebook page "OSU Supports Cody Patterson" and shared it with his fellow former National Guardsmen to organize a counter protest at Patterson's memorial.
"They went ahead and took it from there and shared it and posted it and started inviting more people," he said. "I think we're at 375 attending right now."
The counter protesters want to create a wall of American flags from Oregon State's Reser Stadium to the LaSells Stewart Center, shielding the family from Westboro's signs.
Police in Corvallis urged everyone to remain peaceful and refrain from any direct contact with the Westboro protesters.


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My Cousin Balaji
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My Cousin Balaji
Subba Rao
My cousin Balaji's full name is Balarama Taraka Krishna. Since his birth, his mother affectionately called him "Bala" (child).Since the name "Bala" is feminine, she later changed it to Balaji. The suffix "ji" was generally given to respected people or older folks like title "sir" but the name Balaji was just the opposite, the overwhelming affection towards the child rather than respect to an older person.It was sad that Balaji lost his father when he was only two years old. His father died of heart attack suddenly while he was playing with his son. With nobody in the vicinity, Balaji played around his father's body until his mother noticed the still body of her husband.
Balaji grew with utmost love and care from his mother and other relatives out of compassion and sympathy towards him for not having a father from his childhood. Balaji grew up like a daredevil. He climbed tress without fear of falling off; trees like mango, coconut or any tree for that matter.He had no fear of height either, once he climbed a 50-foot tall toddy palm tree without any shoulder and feet restraint made from jute or coconut coir that the professional tree climbers used. He climbed up and down like a cheetah, and jumped from branch to branch like a monkey. On his body, he always had one or two open wounds from the accidental fall from trees.While the open wounds were reminders of the recent fall from trees, several scars on his feet, legs or arms were the reminders of the past accidents when he fell from a tree or from a fight with the neighborhood kids.He earned the nickname "Bandage Balaji" for always having strips of bandages to cover open wounds somewhere on his body.He never appeared to have felt the physical pain from the wounds or the broken bones. He took it in stride as a cost of doing business, useless as it might be.
Balaji's other passion was playing marbles with the boys who spent time minding their cows and water buffaloes near his house. While the cows and buffaloes were resting comfortably on roadside chewing on hay or wastepaper, the boys played marbles on curbside.Balaji competed in playing marbles with them. Whenever he lost a game, he ran inside his house to avoid relinquishing his marbles as a penalty. When he won, he demanded every marble from his opponent as a reward; otherwise he pelted stones at them and got into fistfights. That's how he received some of the injuries. He nursed the wounds like his pets with love and care.He self medicated with aspirin as a painkiller for body pains and for the open wounds he applied boric powder or iodine as antiseptic, and covered them with the bandage.For every wound on his body, he had a story to tell like a war veteran.
Balaji was a very skillful in kite flying. Most kids in his neighborhood flew kites from their flat rooftops, and some from the open areas. During the kite-flying season of November, Balaji acted like a kamikaze to destroy his opponent's kite without fear of losing his own. He outperformed others by zapping the competitors' kites by cutting off the line with a special powder made from crushed glass pieces applied to his own kite-line, an un-sportly act but all competitors used anyway. When flying kites, his vocabulary used to take a deep dive. He used every imaginable cuss word, and challenged the opponents' kites to come closer to his own (his opponents could hardly hear his shouts since they were too far apart), then he would intertwine the opponents kite skillfully with his own kite-line, and brought it down to collect it - a skillful art at best in kite flying. All the neighborhood kids flew their kites at a far distance from Balaji's with fear of losing to him. At the end of kite flying season, Balaji would collect scores of kites, mostly pirated from his opponents by his skillful and ruthless techniques of flying kite, it was like a cutthroat business for him.
He was quick-witted, and nobody would dare argue to win over him. His friends and close relatives, both young and old, let him have his own opinion at the end. Arguing with him was like running on a treadmill, people would get tired, and conceived victory to him at the end. The easy way out was to agree with whatever he said and that made him speechless. Otherwise, whatever others would say was like fuel for further endless arguments with him.
Balaji was an intelligent person in many ways but at the college where rules were enforced, he couldn't keep his thought process in check, getting physical with his classmates only got him into hot water. At the end he couldn't cut the grade and failed to get into medical school, his mother's cherished wish. Somehow, Balaji managed to filter-through the education system and graduated with a degree in Botany, nicknamed the "wedding credential." Since a diploma of some kind was essential for a matrimonial alliance for a man or woman in degree crazed India, students who failed in every field, generally majored in Botany, considered chop-liver among other fields of study.
Balaji continued his academic pursuit to get a doctoral degree in Botany. After he worked on his thesis for a few years, his professor rejected Balaji's Ph.D.thesis asgibberish with no sufficient experimental results.Frustrated, Balaji used his friends to harass his professor to approve his thesis. The timid professor was frightened by midnight threatening calls, being followed by strangers on the streets, and the fender benders while riding his scooter; all these incidents terrified the professor for his life, and he succumbed to the pressures to award the doctoral degree to Balaji.
During a seminar on brain drain from developing countries to the United States, Balaji met a Professor from the United States. Balaji impressed upon the American Professor that he was keen on coming to the United States for a short visit to expand his horizon in his field and bring back additional knowledge to impart on his Indian compatriots and thus reverse the process of brain drain. The American Professor heard similar stories before, but was impressed by the sincerity of Balaji. Besides, Balaji did not even raised the subject of financial aid, and said"knowledge ismoney."
Balaji invited the American Professor to his home to further impress him with authentic South Indian homemade meals.The Professor was previously familiar with the run of the mill dishes at several Indian restaurants in the United States was impressed with a variety of genuine home-cooked dishes like massala dosa, coconut chutney, sambar, yellow rice with fried green chillies, stuffed eggplant curry, sour bread donuts saturated in plain yogurt, and sweet rice pudding with cashew nuts.
The Professor highly recommended and sponsored Balaji for a short-term post-doctoral position at his department without pay since Balaji insisted on working without pay.
A few weeks after Balaji arrived in the United States, he grumbled that he needed a monthly salary to sustain himself in the country.Surprised, the Professor realized that it was just a trick Balaji played on him when he said that knowledge is money to get sponsorship to come over to the United States.The Professor felt betrayed by Balaji, nevertheless, decided to give him one more chance by providing a small stipend to continue his work.
After a few months, Balaji confronted his Professor, and accused him of plagiarizing his work. Stunned and frightened, the Professor shook his head and asked "Dr. Balaji, are you sure about this?"
"Sir, I read your recently published paper in which my ideas were expressed without acknowledging my name." Balaji was polite but firm.
" I could not give you acknowledgements based on your rhetoric, that would be silly. I am sorry you felt that way," replied the professor.
Still not convinced, Balaji started spreading rumors that how his own professor had stolen his serious work. Disappointed, the professor had to let go Balaji from his position with a favorable recommendation letter, an intelligent ploy to get rid off him. Armed with a good reference letter, Balaji managed to get a job with a better salary at a research institute in Arkansas. There, he impressed his superiors with his oratory that with his experience in plant breeding, and gene splicing techniques, he could produce rice that would smell like rose or jasmine. The Research Director was excited to the idea of producing Jasmine Rice or Rose Rice.
Balaji in his new position traveled extensively to participate in the scientific conferences, and spoke eloquently on the possibility of growing aromatic rice.After the research funds were exhausted, Balaji produced neither Rose nor Jasmine Rice. When he requested an extension of his employment contract, the Research Director asked"when do you expect to produce the aromatic rice?"
"I have a simple formula that cost far less to make aromatic rice than using complicated plant genetics, said Balaji with a twinkle in his eyes.I recommend adding artificial flavoring or essence while cooking plain rice, as matter-of-fact this approach gives a wider choice to the consumers. People can add whatever flavor they like, including raspberry or strawberry or even vanilla, just imagine eating vanilla rice," Balaji's reply was sharp and crisp. Balaji sounded more like a con man than scientist.
The reply stunned the Research Director, and he politely requested Dr. Balaji to resign, and provided him with a good testimonial to find a job elsewhere.
Dr. Balaji moved from place to place like a "Tripadhi Nakshathram" or roaming star named after a star not so famous for brightness but for roaming all over the sky.
Back home, Balaji's mother disappointed that her son failed to fulfill her dream of becoming a medical doctor wanted him to marry a medical doctor so that at least her daughter-in-law would be a medical doctor. After screening several matrimonial alliances, she found a bride, a medical doctor from a decent family to marry her loving son Balaji now a Research Scholar albeit-a "Roaming Star" in the United States.
Balaji introduced himself as Dr. Balaji without mentioning any specific area of specialization or expertise. Among biochemists, he spoke eloquently on biochemistry; among immunologists, he lectured on simple blood tests to find allergies. Lecturing in any area of specialty came easy to him since talk is cheap and that kept him afloat wherever he went, at least for a short periods of time.
Balaji shuttled from coast to coast and changed his jobs every so often. At every place of employment, his research grants ran out in less than a year for mysterious reasons, and yet he received excellent recommendation letters from his superiors. During one of his stints at a Timber Research Institute, he advocated growing timber trees with poison ivy characteristics so that any beetle or bug that attacked the timber would scratch itself to death, this was to eliminate chemical treatment of timber for pest control.While this idea sounded revolutionary at first, after a while people thought it was a joke. He was kicked out from his research position within 3 months, the shortest duration of time he worked at any place.
Dr. Balaji was in a constant motion, traveled from place to place changing jobs and fields of specialization. At one stage, he thought of getting into Information Technology (IT), a hot field but then potential employers asked him too many questions in the job interviews and the job required special training, so he abandoned the idea of jumping into IT business and declared that it was only for the people with pigeon hole mentality.
He went to India and got married to Sujatha, the doctor his mother selected, and came back to the United States with her. Immediately on arrival to America with his wife, he jumped onto his new area of interest or specialization- his wife's career.Balaji considered his wife as an investment in the medical field.Sujatha worked in a temporary job and studied meticulously during the nights to complete the qualifying tests to gain entry into the residency medical training.
Sujatha and Balaji argued when it was time in selecting the specific area of medical training.Sujatha was interested in Pediatrics since she loved babies so she wanted to apply for medical training in Pediatrics.
"Why you are applying for pediatric training? Are you out of your mind?" Balaji went crazy.
"I love children and which other field give more opportunities to work with children than Pediatrics?"
"Listen, do you know how much Pediatricians make in this country" asked Balaji in a sarcastic way.
"It was not the question of money," Sujatha was adamant.
"Then, what is your second choice of interest?"
"Umm, I like Anesthesiology."
"Anesthesiology? Even a nurse-Anesthesiologist can do the job, it was not a job for MDs," Balaji showed his expertise in the medical field.
"It was not so much of a challenge but my own personal interest in the field that matters. Why you specialized in Botany of all the fields?" Sujatha challenged Balaji.
Balaji was in trouble now. He couldn't say to his wife why he ended up in Botany, the "wedding credential," without which no girl was interested in him for a marriage.
"Okay, what is your third choice?" Balaji ignored his wife's inquiry.
"Radiology or Pathology, but I do not have to take your permission to choose which area I would specialize, you know," she said.
"Oh no, the Radiologists would spend whole day reading x-rays for a pittance, and Pathologists were not real doctors either, all they do is examine slides and write reports."
Sujatha filled the application forms prioritizing her own choice of interest, and totally ignored Balaji.
"I gave up on you, you are here in the United States because of me. If not for me, you are worth nothing," Balaji reverted to his strong-hand tactics on his wife.
Sujatha was selected for the residency medical training in Pediatrics, her favorite field of choice at a hospital in a city hundreds of miles away from the place where they were living together. Although Balaji insisted upon travelling with her to the new place, Sujatha suggested that he should stay put, and continue to work at his current location.
Balaji was fearful that Sujatha who now called herself Sue might become too independent by living on her own, kept calling her every other day to tell her that he would like to quit his job, and join her at any moment.
Sue on the other hand, postponed his planned trips on the pretext that as a first year medical resident, she was very busy working more than 80 hours a week, and she would not have time, even for a romantic evening with him.
One day, Balaji received a letter from Sue in the mail. Anxiously, Balaji read the letter loudly to himself.
I am writing this letter to let you know that I have decided to live on my own forever.During the few years I spent with you, I was treated as an investment you made to make money in the medical business, and at no point you expressed affection or love. I remembered you said during our courtship that you were an expert in kite flying when you were a kid. I believed it now after I saw how you want to control me like your kite, but you know what, I am not your kite any more, I am too far from you, besides the string was permanently cut now. I am a Kati Patang (a free flying kite) now. I could take care of myself without your help.
Bye, Bye
PS: Don't bother to come over here to meet me at the hospital. My decision is final. You would hear from my attorney since I filed for a divorce.
Balaji was shell-shocked after he read the letter.He now realized that all the shopping she made on his credit card, and his car registered on her name were totally pre-planned.At last, Balaji met a person, not anybody but his own wife who matched his wits. He came too far to go back to apologize to her. He tried to call her several times, but Sue never returned any of his calls.
Balaji had spread rumors that his wife was unfaithful, and claimed she had illicit relations with others while she was married to him as a last resort to malign her.Balaji's mother heard only one half of the story from her beloved son and believed it. She immediately started looking for a bride for Balaji, this time she was only interested in potential brides with a degree in Information Technology (IT), and agreed with her son that female doctors tend to get too independent after marriage.
During one of the depressing days after Sue left him, Balaji thought about a huge overgrown Fig tree near Hanuman temple at his house that nearly engulfed portions of the temple just as his own kite-line that intertwined the opponents' kites to bring them down. This time around, it was Sue like a smooth creeping-vine that tangled with him to bring him down."I should never allow this happen to me again," he thought, waking up from the daydream. Balaji decided that this time he would further shorten the leash on his would be IT wife. "I should have known better, the longer the kite-line, the more difficult to control the kite," he thought.
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Atlantic Grill – An eclectic menu, enchanting ambiance, and spectacular views of the Atlantic Ocean. Enticing cocktail area, with a flavorful array of small plates, entrées, and family-style feast plates.
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For the majority of Jewish history, most Jews dreamed about a place called Eretz Yisrael, Israel, Zion, or Jerusalem. But most of them had no idea what the place looked like, and mere handfuls actually went there. Even years after the State of Israel was created, only a minority of Jews had ever visited. You are part of the first generation of Jews who have the opportunity to visit the place your ancestors could only dream of.
The historical, cultural and religious roots of Jews are as the "children of Israel" who lived in the Land of Israel (the word "Jew" comes from the word "Judea:" the largest of the tribes of Israel in Biblical times). Everything that is at the core of the early history of the Jews is linked to Israel. The Bible and its early heroes (patriarchs and matriarchs, Moses, David and Solomon) are rooted in the Land of Israel. The great prophetic ideas such as justice, equality and peace, which have shaped world history, were formulated in the Land of Israel. The roots of the Jews as a historical people are in the soil of Israel and our culture teaches us of the yearning to return to that land when we were exiled from it.
Israel was turned into one of the key pillars of Judaism - along with the God of Israel, the Torah of Israel and the People of Israel. With a few exceptions, Israel was not seen as a replacement for Judaism but rather as an integral part of it. The Jewish religion made Israel a religious idea and collective vision and turned it into one of the cornerstones of Jewish religious civilization.
In modern times Israel has become a remarkable statement about the ability of the Jewish people to renew itself after the nightmare of the Holocaust. Israel made Jews proud because it saved the lives of Jews, renewed Jewish cultural creativity and study and spoke in the name of Jewish values. Israel became a daily reminder that Judaism as a religion is alive and well and that Jewish nationalism and culture are equally important in the definition of the "New Jew." Israel represents the ideological revolution in which Jews became the "subjects" of history rather than the "objects." Jewish national pride has been inspired by the actions of farmers and soldiers, high-tech wizards and social reformers, who have labored to create a just and healthier society.
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Nearly everyone you meet on your trip to Israel will be Jewish, including the bus driver, tour guides, waiters, soldiers, medics and young adults...all the night clubs are 'Jewish singles scenes!'
Modern Israel is striking proof that a very old religion can survive in a very modern world. Israel is the Western Wall of old - and art galleries and coffee houses of today. It is the holiness of Shabbat in Jerusalem - and the beat of Saturday night in Tel Aviv. It is archeology of the past - and high tech and business of the future. Israel shows that Judaism can be old and new at the same time.
Israelis are a complicated people from diverse backgrounds with conflicting views about their personal, religious, and political identities and ideologies. Your trip will provide you with an opportunity – both formally and informally – to meet Israelis and interact with them. Israel, like most of the Middle East, is a rare cultural hybrid, caught halfway between East and West. You can sit in a super-mod, Yuppie-filled café and hear Middle Eastern music; you can easily find a kosher Burger King right next door to a falafel stand. In Israel, this kind of cultural mix-n-match is just part of daily life.
The Israeli character has been shaped by a unique set of ideas, events, and influences. From the Middle Eastern climate to the Arab-Israeli conflict, from agriculture to the military, from the emotional legacy of the Holocaust to the rise of post-Zionism, there are both contextual and internal forces that make Israelis who they are.
The image of the "Sabra," or native-born Israeli – a cactus fruit that's prickly on the outside and sweet on the inside – has evolved a great deal since the early days of statehood. Still, much of that tough-yet-sensitive character remains today.
Israelis aree something of a hybrid as well; Jews and non-Jews; Western and Eastern origins; old and new immigrants; secular lifestyles and varying degrees of religious observance; urban and rural existence; a high-tech economy and ancient traditions. In a country just over 60 years old, the definition of "Israeli culture" is still up for discussion.
In Israel, most of the population defines itself as "secular" and the great majority of people do not observe strict religious rituals, although several Jewish traditions and holidays are observed. Across the spectrum of religious observance in Israel are: religious or strictly observant Jews (what North Americans call Orthodox); Masorti Jews (the Conservative movement in Israel); and the Israel Movement for Progressive Judaism (the Reform movement in Israel). Most Israelis observe basic Jewish practices, including Passover Seder, fasting on Yom Kippur, Bar/Bat Mitzvah and the celebration of Chanukah.
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A small but growing Jewish "renaissance" is taking place in Israel as secular and religious Jews search for non-Orthodox alternatives to study and worship.
Israel is a parliamentary democracy with legislative, executive, and judicial branches. The duties of the President are mostly ceremonial. The Knesset, Israel's legislative body, is a 120-member unicameral parliament whose members are elected every four years in universal, nationwide elections. The Government Coalition must have the support of a majority of Knesset Members to survive. The Cabinet of Ministers, charged with administering internal and foreign affairs, is headed by the prime minister and is collectively responsible to the Knesset.
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Israel has a technologically advanced market economy. Cut diamonds, high-technology equipment, and fruits and vegetables are the leading exports. The global financial crisis of 2008-09 caused a brief recession in Israel, but the country faired better than most, following years of prudent fiscal policy and a resilient banking sector. In 2010, Israel formally joined the OECD. The discovery of the Leviathan natural gas fields off Israel's coast in 2010 hold promise for greater energy security.
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Researchers measured hearing abilities in 2,956 men and women, aged at least 50. They also measured antioxidant levels in their diets.
After adjusting for factors such as age, sex, smoking, occupational noise exposure, family hearing and medical history, scientists found that as levels of vitamin E in the diet rose, chances of hearing loss fell.
For vitamin A, compared to those who got the least, those who got the most vitamin A in the diet were 47 percent less likely to lose hearing.
In a related study of the same participants, doctors said that prior research linked low levels of folate and/or vitamin B12 to an inflammatory factor called homocysteine, which in turn increases chances for heart and blood vessel diseases.
Because the hearing organ in the inner ear requires adequate blood flow, researchers thought they might find a link between folate, vitamin B12, homocysteine, and hearing quality.
Doctors measured hearing loss in the participants and found that those with elevated levels of inflammatory homocysteine were 64 percent more likely to have hearing loss compared to those with lower homocysteine levels.
While researchers did not find a direct link to vitamin B12, those who had low levels of another B-vitamin, folate—less than 11 nanomoles per liter of blood—were 37 percent more likely to have mild hearing loss compared to those with higher folate levels.


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NIGEL Farage MEP, leader of Britain's UKIP party, will be paying a visit to Dudley to attend a major public meeting ahead of the forthcoming European elections.
Mr Farage, the face of the UK Independence Party, will be speaking at an open public meeting at Dudley Town Hall, St James Road, on Friday April 25.
His visit follows hot on the heels of a stop off by the party's deputy leader Paul Nuttall - who opened UKIP's new campaign HQ in the Black Country, in Sedgley, on Wednesday (April 9).
Mr Farage, whose popularity has received a boost in the polls following two victorious TV debates against Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg, said: "I'm very much looking forward to coming to Dudley and giving people the opportunity to listen first hand to the arguments for leaving the EU.
"For too long people have been deceived by the spin of successive parties in Government and by EU propaganda itself.
"UKIP is the only party who passionately believe in public meetings and proper politics bringing the messages back to the people."
The public meeting, which aims to give people across the borough chance to hear Mr Farage's stance on key issues ahead of the European elections, will be hosted by West Midlands lead MEP candidate Jill Seymour.
Borough based MEP candidate Bill Etheridge will also be at the event along with fellow West Midlands European election candidates Jim Carver, Phil Henrick, Michael Wrench, Michael Green and Lyndon Jones.
Doors open at 7pm for a 7.30pm start.
The event is a ticket only event. Tickets are free if booked and received online.
To book log on to ukip.ticketsource.co.uk or call 0333 666 3366.


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Well, I couldn't resist - I peeked at the results - and I have to give a big congratulations to TroyH, who went sub-3:30 with style.
Gabriel, how did your 10K go?
Well, I couldn't resist - I peeked at the results - and I have to give a big congratulations to TroyH, who went sub-3:30 with style.
Gabriel, how did your 10K go?
|Jeroly at the 5k mark 5K
8:35 <small>/mi</small>
Jeroly is through 10k at 51:48 (8:20 pace). I have another friend running as well (9:38 pace even though he could run 3:40 for the full) and he has been very slow but coming off an injury so I hope he's ok. It just seems like both aren't where I thought they would be.
This is how Jeroly planned to run the course :
My current pacing thinking is that since I think I'm in about 3:35 shape and need to get under 3:40, that I'll start with the 3:45 pace group and after the first 10K to start to pick up the pace. In other words, do a 8:30 or so pace for the first quarter, and then pick it up to a 8:18 for the remainder.
So he is on target at this point .
Now he picked up the pace running the next 5 k at 8:05 pace .
10 K time is now 51:48
Notice the detailed the MCM tracking ! Amazing . They should all be this good . Jeroly was following his plan the first 5 K but picked it up more than he planned . Maybe he is feeling stronger than expected
15 k time 1:18:38 Pace slowed between 10 and 15 k . Is there a hill in that location ? Maybe speeding up between 5k and 10 was too much ?
Thx for the updates. Jeroly is still close to plan. He may have just backed off a little bc of the too fast portion. A hometown running buddy is thru the 35k and on track for a 2:51 finish. He's smoking it. Will be a nice new PR in his mid 40s if he holds on.
Jeroly looks like he's dead on his plan with 2:34:21 at the 30K and a predicted 3:37 finish. Go Jeroly!
Looks like he is on pace for a BQ . 1:49:29 at the half andb 2:34:21 at 30 K .So far just as he predicted .
Hoosier Ted . Your friend is crushing it ! Love to hear of older runners doing well . It makes me feel I'm not getting too crazy with my goal for Boston 2015 . SUB 3:00:00
3:44 finish
He slowed to about 9 min pace after 30 k . We will have to wait for him to report .
Hey folks - detailed RR to follow but I didn't get my BQ. 3:44:03 (IIRC).
Basic summary: Mostly was on pace, slip on a cup @ 19 mile mark almost made me DNF, restarted, found myself feeling no ill effects from the trip, got back on track more or less and needed ~ 8:15 pace for final 3.2 miles but couldn't convince myself to push as hard as I needed to.
I'll change up two things for my next attempt: faster speed work (the MP felt like too much effort), more MP miles at the end of my long runs (did one 22 miler with 12 MP miles at the end, probably doing a 22 miler with 18 MP miles as Pfitz suggests would help me keep the pace at the end of the race better.
I don't foresee this happening until early next year at the earliest, but I'll get back on the training horse after some recovery time.
Thanks to everyone for all your support in my efforts!
1975Pete - congrats on your marathon and good luck with your spring marathon training.
Gabriel - I'm curious to hear how your race went.
rday - great report and great race. But, um, you forgot to tie your shoes! Dang, that's kind of funny. And don't worry, you'll find a struggle soon ;-)
Ilana - great half PR. Especially on a course like that.
Jimair - Excellent 5K PR. Especially with wind.
Jeroly - Sorry the race didn't go the way you planned or hoped. I don't think more MP miles and faster speedwork are necessarily the answer if your main problem was being on pace through 19 and then fading. I'd focus more on endurance through higher mileage or possibly doing the same speedwork but for more reps. MP running tends to beat you up with relatively little benefit since it's main benefit is getting you acclimated (physically and mentally) to running at MP. It's too slow of a pace for aerobic development and too fast of a pace for recovery or easy mileage. It needs to be there, especially in the final weeks, but you don't need a LOT of it.
Me - It's been a while since I posted my own workouts but this is a week I'm very pleased with so I figured I'd post it again here, too (I've posted it elsewhere!):
M: 11 easy with strides AM // 3.5 easy PM
T: 13 with 4 x 1.5 miles at HMP (~3:10 recovery jog)
W: 10 easy with strides AM // 4.5 easy PM
T: 12.5 Progression AM (averaged slightly under my current MP) // 3 easy PM
F: 10.5 easy with strides AM // 5 easy PM
S: 21 with 2 min. MP, 7 min easy til the end starting at 4 miles
S: 16 easy
110 miles. My highest ever. Each time I hit a new monthly or weekly mileage high I think that's it, that's the highest I'll go. Then next cycle I go a little higher. I suppose it'll have to end at some point (probably with this one) but damn these peak weeks feel so fantastic. Even with three quality days. Just like at this point before VCM, I feel on top of my game. 21 days to go.
Rday - my friend crushed it. 2:52:30. He's 43. For what its worth, I got my PR in my sig in 2012 at age 54, just a whole lot slower.
Jeroly - other than the cup incident it sounds like your race went somewhat as planned for a solid finish. That's a good sign for your BQ attempt for next year. Enjoy some R&R and recovery!
OxyJen - wow - one heck of a week With a lot of miles and a lot of variety too.
Jimair - you've got me thinking now since you're the only one who suggested a faster start. (Now we've all gotta "run like Jim" - LOL!). The weather is going back and forth between rain and no rain - but if its no rain the temps are looking awfully good so I am optimistic. Finished with an easy 12m "LR" Saturday and I'm just running 3 times this week before heading to NYC on Friday. Great job on your 5k PR!
HoosierTed . You got that PR last year at 54 ? That's good to know as I'm that age now . I see you have quite a number of marathons in the near future . Are you trying to run a marathon in every state ? Also , do you think that running all those races detracts from your ability to run at peak performance ? Do you have any long range goals as far as a PRs ?
I posted here a few weeks ago with a question about the impact of basically skipping the taper completely in order to rest a dodgy calf. So here are my results from today's Atlanta Marathon.
First, for those who like to continue fine-tuning their powers of prediction:
* 5K PR: 20:15, 10K PR: 42:38, Marathon: 3:44 (done this past March).
* I upped my training for the Fall, with the Jeff Gaudette Runkeeper.com Sub-3:30 plan.
* Averaged about 41 MPW, with a long week of 53.
* Two 20-milers and a 19. Long run pace was usually 8:20-8:50.
* Training was great up until the last two weeks. Tweaked my calf, and basically only ran one quality run in the final 15 days. All in all, over the final 15 days, I ran 3 times.
The Race: Atlanta is a beautiful course but very hilly. The final 6 miles are basically uphill. Very testing. I ran with the 3:30 pace group from the get-go and we were all in expert hands. Our pacer's strategy was to build a 1:00 cushion heading into the final 10K to account for the hills. Genius.
Hit my paces with every mile and my calf really held up well. Mile 14 saw my wife and kids which was a huge boost. Mile 16 saw my running buddy and again felt some adrelaline. Exiting Piedmont Park at mile 17, the suffer-fest begins. I maintained my pace and really just focused on hanging with the group and keeping calm & steady.
It wasn't until the first serious hill at mile 22 that the first nagging question popped in my head. I fell behind the pace group by about 15 seconds, but was able to catch them on brief flat area. If you've run the Peachtree Road Race (one of the greatest 10Ks in the world in my opinion) you know all about "Cardiac Hill." That was mile 23-24 for the Marathon. My leg tightenend up a lot. But I kept on going. Went 8:15, 8:35, 8:25 over miles 23-25 and was seriously doubting my sub 3:30 goal. Didn't feel good at all.
At this point, I kind of just shut off my mind and kept focusing. I was in a medium-level of pain, but kept running. Finally, at 25.5, you turn into Atlantic Station and the course finishes on a flat, downhill. I checked my watch and knew I had just seconds to spare (and all because our pacers banked us a minute). I could hear the announcer calling out names at 26.0 and I just took off. What a feeling! I just started pumping and all my pain went away.
The final turn I could see the finish line and the announcer called my name out...I could see the clock at 3:27, 3:28 and I just beared down. Hit the line at 3:29:39!! So very pleased. Knocked 15 minutes off my Spring marathon time on basically the same course.
The Atlanta Marathon is only in it's third year, but with the Altanta Track Club behind it (2nd largest running org in the USA) it should continue to grow. It was expertly run, and the finish area was really great in terms of schwag, food, medals and recovery area. Great race.
What I take away form this marathon is that the adage "The Hay is in the Barn" really is true. I needn't have stressed about missing taper runs. I was already fit, and in reality, it probably helped me out. I felt great today.
CWS . Are you planning to peak for Boston ? 3 weeks is too close if you run it full out . But if you take it at a slightly lower pace it would work fine .
JimAir . I guess the extra miles helped with the speed at a shorter distance . But did you do much speed work during the last cycle ?
Or did you just follow Phitz ?
THFC Runner Very exciting race down to the wire . WHat a great feeling to hit a goal . Where do you go from here ? Was that a BQ ?
Hi everyone!
Race went well. Small race, out and back course and Stephen Pifer was there winning the whole thing with a 30:15 or something crazy fast.
For me, I went home with a 43:20. I had plenty more on the tank during the whole race, and I feel very good about my HM coming up in less than two weeks. I started out a bit fast (6:20 pace), but then I found someone that I tagged along with for the whole race. She was going at a consistent 7:00-7:06 min/mile pace and I really felt comfortable/easy throughout the whole run. I was a bit disappointed at myself because I know I could've gone Sub 43, but, I preferred to take it easy on myself with a HM in less than 2 weeks.
It somewhat gives me an idea of where I stand, as I felt I could've held the 7 min/mile pace for another loop, but, again I still don't know exactly where I stand. It's just an estimate based on how I felt today during the race, and after it.
Splits for today's 10K.
I'm more than open for any and all advice from you guys. I'm a newbie trying to improve to my best abilities and push myself! Hope everyone had a great day!
CWS: re half marathons: I am in the DC area also and I'm very familiar with the local running scene. Yes, the pickings are very slim for HMs in the time frame you are looking at. If you are willing to go a little out of area you might consider the Caesar Rodney in Wilmington on March 23rd. Four weeks out from Boston may be ideal timing for you:
As for the B&A, excellent race, but maybe too close unless you are one who recovers quickly. As for the R&R, I agree – not a very good race, and did you see the exorbitant fees they are charging? $90 to $130 depending on when you register. That's crazy!
Ilana - what kind of altitude do you live in? I only live at about 5k feet, Park City is 7-8k, but I have noticed a difference in half marathons (ok, the one I did 2 years ago). Interesting analysis and I've never run a 5k at lower elevation either.. I have no idea if I'm limited by living here or not. I have to think maybe a little, but I just don't know .. my asthma isn't even exercise-induced - I just have regular asthma, which I didn't have until I moved to SLC, and is likely due to increased pollution and a predisposition. It's usually my lungs that crap out at 5K pace, but I imagine a lot of people have that problem? Now I want to run a 5K at lower elevation but I'm so bad at them I'd certainly need another excuse to visit somewhere!
Tex - I really hope I'm ready to rock NYC.. or at least perform decently!
Jim - I can do a lot of things when I'm annoyed, haha... perhaps the trick is just getting really mad around mile 20 at NYC Thanks for answering my question! I think I've always run my LRs a bit too fast haha.. oh well. And yet, I'm SO reluctant to do Pfitz's MP miles.
Ted - totally coming up! and right after this I'm PMing you!
Jeroly - congrats on an awesome race after 22 years!! Sorry about the slip - ouch!
Rday - really liked your RR and way to go on that marathon again.. Like others have said, I don't think there's a reason to be conflicted - you did great and were faced with a lot of hurdles along the way w/training/
Jen - wow I can't fathom running that many miles, awesome!!
Taper has been going pretty well. .. I'm tapering even more aggressively than the plan calls for, because I'm just used to it. Still more miles than last taper, but I haven't been doing strides, and the LRs have been shorter. I did 4 recovery miles on Saturday, and 9 on Sunday at 7:55.. probably a bit too fast but I didn't feel like I was pushing it too much.. my goal is to really slow down this week on Tues, Wed, and Thurs. Not 100% sure about my goal.. I kind of think I'll try to pace it similarly to last race and keep the pace around 7:40 at least for the first half.. I feel in better shape than last time, shockingly, but just a bit. Also, I'm acutely aware that I have a lot of success on downhill courses but this is not one of them, so I expect it'll feel like a bit more effort to maintain MP earlier on. I think if I'm in PR shape, it's by a smallll margin, and if not, I just want to get the hang of running a flat/non-downhill course. Any thoughts are welcome here.. next time I really promise to have run a HM so you don't have to try to disregard my only race, a really crappy 5k
Also. has anyone done the low-carb thing for a few days before bumping up the carbs a bit more before the marathon? I figured I'd give it a shot, but we'll see how it goes .. I love carbs
One more funny thing .. sometimes I wonder how I make it anywhere in life.. this whole time I thought I left NYC on Monday at 7:30 am in case I had to get back to work for some reason, and landed at 11 am here.. turns out that's actually 7:30 PM that I leave on Monday.. extra day in NYC for me! And when did I find that out? Today....
jim - Wicked fast 5K time. You are on a roll. Congrats. Enjoy your downtime.
TroyH - Congrats on the sub 3:30.
jeroly - I know it wasn't what you wanted, but still a solid race. If you keep up your training, you should nail it the next time.
oxygen - I can't even imagine that weekly mileage. That is near the peak of my two week PR. How do you find the time?
Hoosier and KK - I'm sure you are both getting excited. One of my all time favorite races. Hope the weather cooperates this year.
THFC - Great job and congrats on that sub 3:30. That is exactly my marathon PR time. Hopefully you will continue to improve.
rday - I'm not sure about "peaking" for Boston. Hard to know what next year will bring, but as of now that is my hope. I probably wouldn't even consider a HM 3 weeks before, but the race is so convenient for me that it has me wondering.
Gabriel - Great job on the 10K. You definitely have the speed.
Stevepf - Thanks for the heads up on the Delaware race. Do you think one week earlier is that much of an advantage?
Ran 5 recovery yesterday and then 7 this morning. The 7 was slower than I had hoped. Hope to do spin class tonight. Finished last week with 35 and hope to hit 40 this week. We have a 5 miler this weekend that is a part of our club championship series. Currently holding 3rd in my AG and will need to do well just to hold my place. Hi to anyone I missed. Have a great week everyone.
KK ASKED :Also. has anyone done the low-carb thing for a few days before bumping up the carbs a bit more before the marathon? I figured I'd give it a shot, but we'll see how it goes .. I love carbs
KK , I do the low carb thing for months .From time o time I go off it for a few days to trainmy bodyto take advantage of the carbs . It works wonders . For carb loading all I have to do is up the percentage of carbs for a couple of days . No need to eat huge amounts as some suggest . I took in 1980 cals theday before and felt like I was forcig myself to eat . I also fast n most of my long runs . The result is I needed vey little gatorade and water for the entire race . I ate half a power bar on the run . There really is no need for most of the stuff people ingest on the race course .
On another note , what happned to Rocky? Maybe he took a wrong turn on one of his 50 mile training runs . Should we send out a search party ? Rocky,if your still reading the thread , chime in .
Rocky has been posting over in the Races and Places / West forum. He just quasi-DNFed his 100-miler in hot weather, turning it into a 100K instead, and I suspect he's nursing a grudge against all racing right now!
KK - This link provided by rachellara (who runs 2:4x) suggests that you don't need to do the low carb thing before bumping up the carbs: http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/...carbohydrate_loading I actually pretty much ignore carbs whether I'm racing or not - I just eat food I like in quantities I want. And I live at 6600 ft. Moab, where I do a lot of my races, is around 4200.
cws - good luck at holding your pace in the club championship!
Gabriel - how much mileage are you running per week? I ran my 3:29 5 weeks after a 43:03 10K, and it was a downhill race that I calculated is the equivalent of around 44 minutes in a flatter race, so yes, you do have the speed. But the endurance is the question. Your half marathon will give a lot more information in combination with this time - be sure to run it all out and not hold back.
THFC - congratulations on the new PR!
Jen - you're gonna crush it! Just don't fall...
Jeroly - I agree with Jen that your problem isn't lack of speedwork or MP miles. Higher mileage and progression runs will help.
Ted and KK, you're up this weekend!
Hello everyone! I've been reading but not finding time to write.
Congratulations to the THFC, Gabriel and Troy from last weekend's races and jeroly - I know you're disappointed, but that cup-slip just threw you when you were already beaten up from the race. I know I'll be paying closer attention at water stops in future! Does anyone know how Welsh did today?
My running got back to normal last week (as much as life allowed) so I'm ramping back up to a winter-base until I find a race to aim for. This week is my last week at my job. On Sunday I'm heading over to Maine where my temporary apartment and new job await. Meanwhile, our house hit the listings and we've started having viewings. Fingers crossed that someone will fall in love with it soon so that the family can come and join me!
Wow this is one active group!
rday - Interesting how you train and race with very little fuel/liquid intake. This past cycle I reduced how much I took in and still felt pretty good after my harder workouts. But race day, I felt like I did not take enough in. Fun finding that perfect balance.
cwschind - I am still learning everyone here, when is your next race?
oxyjen - Wow, that is some serious mileage! What is your goal time for your race?
jeroly - Bummer on the cup slip and missing you goal. But sounds like you have a good plan for this down time and next training cycle.
liana - Kind of looking forward to the 5k, assuming I remember how to pace that distance right. Not sure what my chances are of getting the shorter distance PRs down over winter, since those are hard to come by in the winter here. So this should be an interesting cycle to shoot for sub-3:30.
Me - Took the weekend off. So I only ran one day last week. But being the week after my full, I figured the break (physically/mentally) was needed and earned. So I am back at it this week with a good 6 miler at lunch (8:45/m avg). Think I am going to aim for 40-50mpw until my next cycle starts in mid-Dec. I do have that 5k in mid-Nov, but otherwise will keep the pace easy to avoid injury.
Hey folks! Regarding the cup slip - I know it threw me off but I have a feeling that I would still have fallen just a bit short - maybe just a minute instead of four - so it might be just as well 'cause missing by a hair would have been even more disappointing!
Ilanarama: I was at a pretty consistent 70 mpw until the last four weeks of the cycle, so I don't know how much adding more miles may help. I do agree with oxyjen that more long interval work would be useful. I suspect that I also need to weigh in my goalsetting the likelihood that I'll wimp out in the actual race.
When I set my PR I got up to 13 mile intervals at a 6:30 pace, targeting a 6:52 MP. I wound up running the race at a 7:10 pace. If I were to repeat that pattern using the same ratios I'd be looking at 7:33 mile intervals targeting a 3:31 time, ending up with a 3:40.
I was feeling really excellent after the race, only to start to have kneecap pain around midnight last night which has started to abate, thank goodness. I've done some light walking today of about 3/4 mile and will repeat that this evening. I'm going to go with the Pfitzinger recovery scheme. My idea for my next race will be based on how many mile intervals at that 7:33 pace I can do in five weeks. I'm guessing that I'll be able to do six. I'll then ramp it up by 1 interval every other week until I get to 13 and start my taper, So I'd be looking at perhaps a 22 week turnaround, which would get me to a late March race.
When I set my PR I got up to 13 mile intervals at a 6:30 pace, targeting a 6:52 MP. I wound up running the race at a 7:10 pace. If I were to repeat that pattern using the same ratios I'd be looking at 7:33 mile intervals targeting a 3:31 time, ending up with a 3:40.
That's basically cruise intervals - tempo/LT work - which I agree is the most useful speedwork for a marathon!
As I was tracking you, seemed to me you started out nice and slow, but then you got back on pace very quickly - maybe too quickly. Then you were running a good part of the race – in particular the middle miles - quite a bit faster than the ~8:22 that would have been even pacing for your 3:40 goal. If this is the case, maybe that was part of the problem.
I know you were disappointed with not BQing, but by any other standard – AG place, overall place, age-graded score, you did very well so congrats are in order!
Ilanarama: My last week went a little like this:
Monday (Off)
Tuesday 10 miles easy pace
Wednesday Cross
Thursday 9-10 miles easy
Friday Tempo/Hills (4-6 miles+WU and Cool Down)
Saturday Bike/Cross Training
Sunday 17 miles.
I'm aiming for a semi-fast HM. Still don't know where I stand based on this 10K. I should've ran it harder than I did. Certainly found an easy spot, and cruised til the end.
I think i'll start with the 1:30 pace group, and if I feel it is too hard to keep up, I'll slow down to an easier pace. I should be somewhere around the 1:33 area, but i could totally be wrong. We will find out in about 2 weeks.
Fort Lauderdale AllState HM if anyone is interested, or if anyone is running it!
Hi all
I have not been great at checking in to this thread but thought I would share my result from Dublin yesterday.
I had gone into the race with a recent 10+k (not certified and long) at 6:47 pace so set out to stick with the 3:20 pacers and see how I would get on. McMillan predicted a 3:20 whereas other calculators had predicted more like 3:17 which I thought was very unrealistic.
I kept up with the pacers until mile 19 and then I could feel I was slightly undertrained for that pace at that distance. My splits posted as follows:
10k - 47:02
Half - 1:39:49
20m - 2:32:12
Finish - 3:22:59
Overall very pleased and not bad for a debut at the distance!
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Would definitely recommend it - especially for those Americans looking to find their Irish roots
Morning All !
Guys I'll respond to all of you but first wanted to throw out my RR from my marathon this weekend!
Well I finished my first marathon on Saturday! It went better than expected and I'm very pleased with my time and effort. I came in at 3:22:48 chiptime, w avg pace 7:44/mi. (I can punch my ticket to Boston for 2015!) I BQ'd by 2:12. I have a year to decide if I want to run Boston or not but it would be so cool to run it at least the one time. I was hoping to break 3:30, then if everything was clicking, then break 3:25 which I did. I came in 42nd / 342 runners OA, and 7 / 42 AG.
We had to drive from NE Atlanta to Greenville,SC where the race was early Saturday morning. We left the house at 4:45 and got there at 6:30.
My running partner and his family went and we followed them there. After arriving, we walked over and received our racing#'s, bag, and long sleeve tech shirt.
It was quite cold out 33° and 73%humidity at the start. I chose to wear my Nike racing shorts, a short sleeve tech shirt underneath and an outer long sleeve tech shirt, My Adidas beanie hat and gloves. I think I dressed just right. By the end of the race, it had risen to 44° and 54%humidity.
My friend and I didn't warm up prior to the race and made our way over to the starting area. At 7:30, they counted down 3-2-1 Runners Go!
I knew I wanted to keep an 8min pace from the start. I ended up not following a pace group. I had plans to run with the 3:30 group but didn't see them. Instead I just made The decision to run the race on my own and make adjustments as I go. I looked down and just like that I'm running a 7:35 -7:40 type pace and it feels amazingly easy. My friend decided to go on and run his own race and he PR'd by the way with a 3:03!
I ran at a pace that I felt was manageable from mile to mile knowing that I needed something left in my tank come the last 10-8k. Since I had only ran up to 23 miles in Training, I didn't know what to expect from myself and my legs after mile 23. So miles 24-26.2 were unchartered.
After cruising along the first 4-5 miles, I came across two guys that were chatting it up pretty good and asked them if I could hang with them. They were going at my pace So I figured I'd hang with them and see if they could pull me in. Two more guys pulled up from the rear chatting it up so we all just held together and formed a 5 man group.
A few miles together, one of the guys left us and went on (which BTW I would see him again at mile 25). The rest of us hung out for a few more miles until we all went our separate ways.
One guy had to use potty, and the other ones went on. I was left running my own race again. They however pulled me along pretty good and kept me anchored at the pace that I started from the beginning and I didn't want to mess with it by slowing down. I took two gels , one at mile 5, and one at mile 16. And I took water/Gatorade at every water aid station. The course was mainly flat but did offer up several , but not severe, rollers. One decent steep hill was at mile 23 over a bridge. But it was quick and short.
The course took you through some parts of downtown Greenville at the beginning and the end. The middle parts were through Furman University which have a very scenic campus, and on One of the local in-town parks . At the 13.1 marker, you are handed a blue wrist band signifying you have completed the midway point. You turn around and go back but in a slightly different way. Some parts you have already covered but some you haven't. AT mile 23, I began to cramp in my left calf. At first I tried to ignore it but as I went along, it got a bit worse.
Eventually my quads began to cramp up too. I knew I had a few more miles left and I just focused on what I had already accomplished up to that point and kept the pedal down w/o easing Up too much. My legs were very hard to turn over at that point. Remember the guy that I said left our group earlier, I came across him at mile 25 and he had just started to walk. I told Him to keep it up , it was almost over! With only a mile or so left, I just wanted the whole thing to be over and finish as strong as my legs would allow me.
Coming down the final stretch I saw my wife and kids along the side which made it all worth while. The finish is cool, they turn you into a baseball stadium where you run the last portion Along the warning track , then down the third base side ending at home plate. I was so happy to finally see that clock knowing that it was all going to be over with. And seeing my time made it even more worthwhile.
After I finished, I walked around a bit , made my way over to the post-race eating area where they had yogurt, fruit cups, bananas, and mini-deli sandwiches, and plenty of water.
My legs were so sore immediately after the race, that I could hardly walk. My left calf and right hip flexor were screaming so bad, it made it really hard to walk.
We finally got in our car and made the trek back home. After cleaning up, making some java, I camped out on the couch watching Bama beat up on Tennessee . Felt good to relax after putting myself through my first marathon.
The one thing that I feel helped me more than anything was my taper. I can't say enough about how good you can feel when you have tapered right and are well rested. I only ran 6 miles last week as part of my taper week. I didn't do anything stupid or last minute that would affect me being tired in anyway heading into the race. I will most likely do another marathon next year. I'd love to crack 3:20 on my next one!
At this point, it's all about recovering and feeling good again. I'm going to give myself a week or two of just running easy, nothing long or fast, before starting a new training cycle. Next up I'd like to take on a HM and see if I could shave off anything there, we'll see.
Well, that's it for this report. Thanks for reading!
Here is the run summary showing my splits, HR info, and some pics!
RUN SUMMARY FOR 10/26/2013 @ 7:31AM (1st Marathon)
Spinx Run Fest – Greenville Marathon
Clear, cold, 33°, 74%hum, legs / bod ready to run!
Total Time = 202 mins 41 secs, Total Distance = 42.10 kms or 26.17 miles
Avg pace = 04 mins 48 secs per km or 07 mins 44 secs per ml
Avg WHR = 79.4%, Avg BPM HR =155 ; Age Grade = 66.2%
Lap Duration Kms Miles Per Km Per Mile AWHR MWHR
01 7:44 1.61 1.00 4:48 7:44 74.8 89.3
02 7:46 1.61 1.00 4:50 7:46 93.1 100.8
03 7:37 1.61 1.00 4:44 7:37 80.9 103.1
04 7:40 1.61 1.00 4:45 7:39 76.3 78.6
05 7:41 1.61 1.00 4:47 7:41 77.9 80.9
06 7:45 1.61 1.00 4:49 7:45 77.1 79.4
07 7:42 1.61 1.00 4:47 7:42 76.3 78.6
08 7:38 1.61 1.00 4:44 7:38 77.1 79.4
09 7:36 1.61 1.00 4:43 7:36 79.4 82.4
10 7:33 1.61 1.00 4:42 7:33 78.6 82.4
11 7:36 1.61 1.00 4:43 7:36 77.1 80.2
12 7:48 1.61 1.00 4:51 7:48 78.6 80.9
13 7:37 1.61 1.00 4:44 7:37 77.9 80.2
14 7:43 1.61 1.00 4:48 7:43 78.6 80.2
15 7:33 1.61 1.00 4:41 7:33 79.4 82.4
16 7:40 1.61 1.00 4:45 7:40 78.6 80.9
17 7:29 1.61 1.00 4:39 7:28 79.4 80.9
18 7:40 1.61 1.00 4:45 7:40 80.2 81.7
19 7:38 1.61 1.00 4:44 7:38 80.2 81.7
20 7:35 1.61 1.00 4:43 7:35 80.2 81.7
21 7:42 1.61 1.00 4:47 7:42 80.9 81.7
22 7:50 1.61 1.00 4:52 7:50 80.9 82.4
23 7:51 1.61 1.00 4:53 7:51 80.9 82.4
24 8:04 1.61 1.00 5:00 8:03 80.2 83.2
25 8:12 1.61 1.00 5:06 8:12 79.4 80.9
26 8:32 1.61 1.00 5:18 8:32 80.9 83.2
27 1:16 0.26 0.16 4:55 7:54 79.4 80.9
guys, seriously, don't ask... not sure what kind of a face this was... probably the Pain !! Scarry!
there... that's better!!! Happy DW with me!
KK - glad you mentioned the PM bc I'm not sure I would've seen it otherwise. I responded and have a question for you about spectating. Let me know. Funny about your trip planning. That's gonna make for a late arrival back home. Our weather forecast is looking a whole lot better than last year - let's do this!
rday - Yes, I am very slowly picking off the states, as my schedule permits. For me, running more marathons means I will go slower and I am resigned to that. I like running races a lot more than training so I don't really want to train most of the year just to run 1 or 2 goal marathons. Texas does really well running repeated marathons and one of my local (girl) friends (who ran 35+ marathons last year) got faster and faster going from 4:30ish to 3:30ish but may have plateaued now.
Troy - Congrats on a fabulous race and BQ! It sounds like you made a typical rookie mistake - feeling great in the early going and running way faster than planned. Usually that results in a blowup but you managed to hold onto that pace in spectacular fashion. Maybe your 3:30 goal was on the conservative side or just a great day for you. On the BQ, (not to be a downer, but just to make sure you know how it works), your time is not a 100% guarantee that you'll get in. Two years ago and for this coming year, there were more applicants than spots, so several thousand qualified runners did not get in. It's hard to predict. Thx for the race report. It sounds like finding a small group running your pace worked out really well. And nice pics - even the scary one!
LondonW - Looking at you HM time, you blew it out of the water with a 3:22 - Congrats! Now you need to go out and get a new HM PR! Thx for the comments on Dublin. We've got a lot of family in Dublin so I may have to give it a go one of these days.
THFC - it's officially a trifecta of awesome races! You do always wonder about the "hay is in the barn" so you are live proof. Your pacer really served you well on this one. Congrats!
Gabriel - That's a solid time for your 10k, but as a predictor for a 1:30 HM, not so much since you're planning to run twice as far at a faster pace. Taking it by feel makes some sense. I'll defer to others. But good luck on the HM.
Pete - belated thx on giving us your running background. Congrats on both the weight loss and picking off your goal times!
40 - good luck with the new job, house selling, hunting and commuting. Been there, done that and it can be tough. At least you can run while alone in Maine until everything falls into place.
I can't remember if I provided this yet but I am in Wave 1, Orange, Corral 12, Bib 12047 if you care to track. Listed as Robert Ted Barron. Yes, I am starting with the Elite Men - well maybe a tad further back in the Wave than them. That will be the closest I get to seeing them except to watch the DVR'd race when I get back home. Wave 1 starts at 9:40 est, so I'll probably by around 10 minutes behind that. Definitely ready to get to NYC.
cws - You are keeping your mileage up nicely. Good luck this weekend and with the AG standings. At the moment KK & I are looking at near ideal race weather (fingers crossed).
Have a good one everyone.
Ilana - ha no worries, I can't do low carb, and I've never done it before, so that more or less went by the wayside! Thanks for the link, though, interesting, and man I could never eat what they suggest the day before - haha!
Rday - thanks for that. Like I said, I can't really do it, but it's interesting to me what others do, and seems to work well for you.
Ted - it is looking nice! I will be bundled up in tons of clothes at Staten Island, that's for sure.
Troy and London - thanks for the RRs and great races!!
Well it's pretty much go-time. I've been sleeping in a bit and running after work but I dont think it matters much at this point. And for those interested in tracking, my bib is 8545, start Blue Wave #1, Corral #8, and it's Katia Kivisto (also my FB if anyone is interested). Starting with the professional men seems weird, I'm not that fast!
Gabriel, Jeroly, LW, and THFC - CONGRATS on your races!!!! Some amazingly successful runners on here!
This is an exciting time with all the different races going on every weekend.
Jen - Amazing mileage - WTG!
Jim - Congrats on the 5k PR! Yes, the course still goes out to White Rock lake and back. Now it starts/finishes right in the middle of downtown and goes over a new bridge. I think minor changes from the course you ran.
KK - LOL re: the travel plans revelation! Good luck!
Ted - Thanks for the tracking info. Good luck! Weather looks great right now!
CWS - 5m is a unique race distance. Good runnin'!
40 - Hope the transition goes well (and quick) for you.
TXT - This weekend might not work. After missing my LR last weekend, I need to make sure I go long this weekend.
me - I was really anticipating my weekend LR in the country around College Station only to be met by severe thunderstorms that washed out any chance! Ran back-to-back days (unusual for me) yesterday and today (8m & 6m) to kinda-sorta simulate a LR - meh. Gonna try a HM tempo run on Thur.
cwschind, thanks!
londonwelsh, congrats on a great full time! nicely done!
hoosierTed, yeah unfortunately my friend gave me the news as a heads up on the Boston qualifying and not being 100% you will make it in anyway. Fingers crossed if I decide to.
CWS - On your question about allowing sufficient recovery time between a HM tune-up race and the M: Yes, I think one week (3 vs. 4) would make a significant difference. I also looked at what some of the well-known and respected authors have to say on this. No consensus – Glover, for example, says 3 weeks out is OK; Daniels says that's too close.


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We Want a New Mac Pro Petition
Posted 26 May 2012 - 08:16 PM
but I do think Apple should hear our voices at the very least…
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:41 AM
facebook is dead
They just need to shed those last pesky 845 Million users
Personally I would prefer Apple just officially support OSX on PC hardware.
Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:46 AM
facebook is dead. As the mac pro. get over it.
I sure hope not.
Posted 27 May 2012 - 10:44 AM
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:44 PM
I understand the appeal of Mac Pros -- they're damn nice machines, and they use sever-grade parts to keep them as rock-solid and reliable as possible. It'd be a shame to see them go. But not that much of a shame. There are better and cheaper alternatives.
Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:34 PM
I think the feeling with Mac users is a lot more strong than "weird bias against Windows". Personally, I would rather switch to Ubuntu than Windows full time. I have a machine running Windows solely for the AVID DS and another I built for gaming. On both, I keep the icons on the desktop so I don't have to "jump" into Windows at all. If I need to do anything outside the AVID DS software , I immediately network it to a Mac so I understand what the hell is going on
If one grew up with Windows and understands all of it's crazy quirks than it seems fairly normal to them. But if you come from a Mac background, none of it makes sense It's a whole different methodology. On the surface they both just seem like an OS, but underneath you have completely different systems for video, images, etc, etc. Some overlap for sure, but quite a bit different way of getting things done. And for Mac users, I think it would be a major leap to turn away OSX and start halfway back learning the Windows way. As much as I want to be the guy that says, "It doesn't matter what you use as long as you get results", I also would like a good experience GETTING to those results.
Posted 27 May 2012 - 09:10 PM
Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:01 PM
I understand the appeal of Mac Pros -- they're damn nice machines, and they use sever-grade parts to keep them as rock-solid and reliable as possible. It'd be a shame to see them go. But not that much of a shame. There are better and cheaper alternatives.
In terms of hardware - meh. You make server builds on any platform. In fact, if you go non-Apple, you exceed their specs for about 70% of the cost. Besides overall aesthetic design on the outside, no real cudos can be made for Apple in terms of hardware.
What seems to be keeping everyone clenching on is the OS. It is an absolute beauty of an operating system. In a heartbeat I would convert my machine into running OS X (hackintosh style) if it ever were to be officially supported. But is the OS worth buying, at 30%-70% more without the ability to incrimentally upgrade in the future, into lesser hardware from a closed company that has abruptly pulled the rug out from devoted pro users before? A proper build is too expensive for me personally to take that gamble, and I really enjoy being able to upgrade my hardware incrementally. It makes me sad to see someone settling for a lesser machine that fits in their budget just because its a mac.
If more software developers supported linux everyone would win.
"Early to bed, early to rise, work like hell, and advertise."
- Ted Turner
Posted 28 May 2012 - 01:13 AM
The Windows 7 GUI vs the OSX GUI is totally personal preference, though. I don't prefer Windows 7 by a wide margin at all. Just enough of a margin that I'd never, ever consider paying extra to run OSX.
Posted 28 May 2012 - 01:31 AM
"Early to bed, early to rise, work like hell, and advertise."
- Ted Turner
Posted 28 May 2012 - 02:06 AM
The combination of Windows 7 + Console2 + bash + XAMPP + Notepad++ has been blissful for programming and web development. Though I'm playing with Sublime Text, and it might eventually replace Notepad++ for me. I've really liked what I've seen so far.
Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:23 AM
Apple Inc. should spin off a a company and just call it Apple Computer. Then Mac Pros, Servers, Xsans, Final Cut Studio and Pro stuff can be sold.
They claim Thunderbolt will be the way all future Pro stuff will be used.
Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:31 PM
They claim Thunderbolt will be the way all future Pro stuff will be used.
Remember, Thunderbolt is an IBM product - not Apple. Apple were just the first ones to integrate them into products in an introductory deal.
"Early to bed, early to rise, work like hell, and advertise."
- Ted Turner
Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:59 PM
In my dreams, OSX is anywhere you want artists involved in an artistic workstation, then everything else should be linux. It's free and smart. If more mainstream production apps ran on Linux, I'm not sure I would be typing this on OSX.
While we're dancing in my dreams, here's my vision for the future of "Pro" stuff:
Everything becomes modular like legos. CPUs are all little blocks you mix and match or add as you want power on a Thunderbolt chain. GPUs are the same. All new peripherals come in these "blocks". New video output cards, etc are all just blocks you stick into block holders on Thunderbolt chains. The more blocks of stuff, the more powerful your system is. You can stick your laptop on this chain and tap into all the CPU and GPU and video card , etc power that is in that chain. When the computer is connected it becomes as capable as the chain, when it goes free, it is as capable as it normally is. You can have multiple "terminals" connected to this chain and they can share power and resources from the blocks. Maybe even RAM come in blocks and SSD storage are blocks as well.
All modular and immediately adaptable.
Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:49 PM
That dream would be my nightmare…
Bits and pieces screaming, "What could possible go wrong?"
Now when I -finally- can have all my power and assets in a single box,
hook it up to the display and keyboard and start working within minutes
of arrival. All transported by air and my laptop is actually a real backup machine.
2004 I "carried" 20 G5's to the gigs, transport and hook up logistics another
And to anyone being kind with suggestions (PC, Windows, hackintoch etc),
as I can only speak for my self, I'm fully aware of the world outside OSX/Apple Hardware.
But it's a decision taken by a grown man for reasons covering my business.
The situation is very similar to when the G5's "never" came and I did have quotes
from several companies to do the switch to Windows. It was actually only a couple
of days from happening.
We'll see what the future brings, this petition is all legit as a possible EOL
would make pretty big changes to my business.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:14 PM
Hell yes, i want a new MacPro - but not on Facebook...
Posted 29 May 2012 - 07:13 AM
Remember, Thunderbolt is an IBM product - not Apple. Apple were just the first ones to integrate them into products in an introductory deal.
Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:06 AM
"Early to bed, early to rise, work like hell, and advertise."
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A Gulf of Alaska storm packing about a half-inch of rain was expected Tuesday night and may make for a wet commute Wednesday morning.
National Weather Service forecaster Diana Henderson said the latest system will be milder, but colder, than the series of Pacific storms that barreled through the region a week ago.
"By Thursday it should be out of here," she said of the system.
But more unsettled weather was expected to dampen shoppers next weekend, with showers expected Saturday that may linger for a time on Sunday.
County Public Works crews are at the ready, but the nature of the rains are not expected to cause major problems, said Jeri Stewart, department spokeswoman.
On Wednesday at 9:45 a.m. some of the year's highest tides — more than 7 feet — will hit Marin's shorelines. The "king tides" — what the most extreme winter tides are called — occur when the sun and moon's gravitational forces reinforce one another. But they are not expected to cause much if any flooding.
"By that time the rain will have mostly subsided," Stewart said. "The bigger issues might be slides."
IJ reporter Mark Prado contributed to this report. Contact Nels Johnson via email at email@example.com. Follow him at twitter.com/nels johnsonnews


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