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Has anyone succeeded on installing Discourse (www.discourse.org) on Centos with Apache running Phusion Passenger? I've got so far but ended up with an error that seems to indicate my GEM_PATH environment variable not being properly set and not sure how to set that for Phusion Passenger.
I've asked this question on numerous forums including meta.discourse.org but no one seems to have a clue even though the procedure is supposedly covered in their documentation. However they seem to assume you're a rails guru to begin with and thats one of the frameworks I haven't used in years.
So anyway I decided to try here. If there is anyone who wants to give this a shot I have a link to my bash install scripts which I can ferret out. The install scripts I wrote myself and take the install procedure of installing all the requirements (dependencies) on Centos 6.5 from a clean install. I have done my best to make the installation "repeatable" in that the scripts check to see if a dependency is already installed (at least in most cases.)
Would anyone like to help me look into this?
Hope you don't mind me piggy-back'ing on your thread. I recently tried to install discourse on Windows7 and also only got so far, and also had GEM_PATH errors on several repeated attempts
I followed thishttp://blog.discourse.org/2013/04/discourse-as-your-first-rails-app/
and then this
but no joy
You might as well come along for the ride and we'll see how much mileage we get Just out of curiosity did you use phusion passenger or did you run it straight from Apache? Someone suggested that it might be phusion passenger that might be giving me problems and to try running it without it but didn't elaborate. That was a reply on a rails forum (not the discourse forum).
My install scripts can be downloaded here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/dx3t84dtkegkrhc/install%20scripts.zipIt is a zipped self-contained folder of files I use to try and install discourse on a clean install Centos 6.5.
To run the scripts I type in root shell:
$ ./printec_basic_setup.sh$ ./discourse-install.sh
Some of the scripts call other scripts but they are also in the zip folder.
When I try to go to the web page I get this error:
It looks like Bundler could not find a gem. This is probably because yourapplication is being run under a different environment than it's supposed to.Please check the following:
-------- The exception is as follows: -------Could not find rake-10.1.1 in any of the sources (Bundler::GemNotFound) /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/spec_set.rb:92:in materialize' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/spec_set.rb:85:inmap!' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/spec_set.rb:85:in materialize' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/definition.rb:133:inspecs' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/definition.rb:178:in specs_for' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/definition.rb:167:inrequested_specs' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/environment.rb:18:in requested_specs' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/runtime.rb:13:insetup' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler.rb:119:in setup' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/setup.rb:17 /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:ingem_original_require' /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in require' /opt/passenger/passenger-4.0.29/lib/phusion_passenger/loader_shared_helpers.rb:219:inrun_load_path_setup_code' /opt/passenger/passenger-4.0.29/lib/phusion_passenger/loader_shared_helpers.rb:333:in running_bundler' /opt/passenger/passenger-4.0.29/lib/phusion_passenger/loader_shared_helpers.rb:217:inrun_load_path_setup_code' /opt/passenger/passenger-4.0.29/helper-scripts/rack-preloader.rb:96:in `preload_app' /opt/passenger/passenger-4.0.29/helper-scripts/rack-preloader.rb:153Application root/home/discourse/discourseEnvironment (value of RAILS_ENV, RACK_ENV, WSGI_ENV and PASSENGER_ENV)productionRuby interpreter command/usr/bin/rubyUser and groupsuid=501(discourse) gid=502(discourse) groups=502(discourse),501(rvm) context=unconfined_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0Environment variablesrvm_bin_path = /usr/local/rvm/binHOSTNAME = localhost.localdomainGEM_HOME = /home/discourse/discourse/vendor/bundle/ruby/1.8SHELL = /bin/bashTERM = xtermHISTSIZE = 1000IRBRC = /usr/local/rvm/rubies/ruby-2.0.0-p353/.irbrcQTDIR = /usr/lib64/qt-3.3PASSENGER_DEBUG_DIR = /tmp/passenger.spawn-debug.XXXXnxxiJmMY_RUBY_HOME = /usr/local/rvm/rubies/ruby-2.0.0-p353QTINC = /usr/lib64/qt-3.3/includeUSER = discoursesystemtype = Linuxrvm_path = /usr/local/rvmrvm_prefix = /usr/localMAIL = /var/spool/mail/discoursePATH = /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/bin:/usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353@global/bin:/usr/local/rvm/rubies/ruby-2.0.0-p353/bin:/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/rvm/bin:/home/discourse/binPWD = /home/discourse/discourseKDE_IS_PRELINKED = 1LANG = CKDEDIRS = /usrsystemarch = x86_64systemversion = 6SSH_ASKPASS = /usr/libexec/openssh/gnome-ssh-askpassHISTCONTROL = ignoredupsrvm_version = 1.25.15 (stable)HOME = /home/discourseSHLVL = 2LOGNAME = discourseQTLIB = /usr/lib64/qt-3.3/libCVS_RSH = sshGEM_PATH = LESSOPEN = |/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %ssystemname = CentOSG_BROKEN_FILENAMES = 1IN_PASSENGER = 1PYTHONUNBUFFERED = 1NODE_PATH = /opt/passenger/passenger-4.0.29/node_libRAILS_ENV = productionRACK_ENV = productionWSGI_ENV = productionNODE_ENV = productionPASSENGER_APP_ENV = productionSERVER_PROTOCOL = HTTP/1.1SERVER_SOFTWARE = Apache/2.2.15 (CentOS)DOCUMENT_ROOT = /home/discourse/discourse/publicSERVER_ADMIN = root@localhostQUERY_STRING = SERVER_NAME = 192.168.1.65REMOTE_PORT = 46467REMOTE_ADDR = 192.168.1.65SERVER_PORT = 80REQUEST_METHOD = GETSERVER_ADDR = 192.168.1.65REQUEST_URI = /ORIGINALGEM_PATH = /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353:/usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353@global
materialize' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/spec_set.rb:85:in
materialize' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/definition.rb:133:in
specs_for' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/definition.rb:167:in
requested_specs' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/runtime.rb:13:in
setup' /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-2.0.0-p353/gems/bundler-1.5.2/lib/bundler/setup.rb:17 /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in
require' /opt/passenger/passenger-4.0.29/lib/phusion_passenger/loader_shared_helpers.rb:219:in
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I followed http://blog.discourse.org/2013/04/discourse-as-your-first-rails-app/
Having Windows, I needed a VM so I installed https://www.virtualbox.org/VirtualBox - VirtualBox-4.3.6-91406-Win.exe
then I installed http://www.vagrantup.com/Vagrant - Vagrant_1.4.3.msi
I already had GitHub installed from before
then I created as repository cloned Discourse to it, opened a shell and ranvagrant up... a bunch ...vagrant ssh
vagrant up
... a bunch ...
vagrant ssh
cd'd to the vagrant directory and ranbundle install
bundle install
That's when I saw the "bundler" errors not finding GEM_PATH
I installed Ruby to C:\ because I wanted to be able to run it from command and edited the PATHRuby - rubyinstaller-1.9.3-p484.exe
Vagrant installed (default) to C:\HashiCorp\Looking atC:\HashiCorp\Vagrant\embedded\gems\bin\vagrantI see
# Useful variables
# Export gem paths so that we use the isolated gems.
export GEM_PATH="${EMBEDDED_DIR}/gems"
export GEM_HOME="${GEM_PATH}"
export GEMRC="${EMBEDDED_DIR}/etc/gemrc"
# Set the path to the Ruby executable
I'm thinking my mistake was where I installed Ruby to but I haven't messed around with it more yet.
Im surprised you having issues if you using vagrant as thats supposed to clone their development environment exactly as a VM. At least thats how I understand vagrant from reading the literature but haven't used it myself.
So have sitepoint members voted by their non posting here? Is the concensus that discourse is impossible to install unless you're an insider?
I finally buckled down with resolve to get this working.
I know I:deleted the github local repository and used clone againreinstalled vagrant but this time to c:\vagrant instead of the default*Discourse looks for c:\vagrant instead of c:\hashicorp\vagrant ??
Plus I did so many other things I don't remember them all or in what order I tried things
But, finally success
Ok, interesting, I may try the Docker install when I get a chance, probably less bloated than vagrant, but interesting that works as an install option.


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" Brunel's ss Great Britain / Great Western Dockyard / Gas Ferry Road / Bristol BS1 6TY / UK "
Like a lot of folk around the Bristol area, I suspect many are aware of the SS Great Britain but only a few have actually visited. So to help rectify this, the wife and I decided to go along.
It's well signposted on the way into Bristol with the usual brown 'tourist' signs, so it's relatively easy to find. If you are driving alongside the harbour it's hard to miss and you'll soon know if you're on the wrong side of the water! There is pay and display parking nearby so be sure to have some change with you. There is also a ferry for foot passengers from the other side of the harbour but I'm not sure when this runs.
The entrance to the museum is through the gift shop and from here you purchase tickets for entry to the ship and surrounding area. The tickets are printed to look like the original boarding pass which is a nice touch, you are asked to sign yours and then it can be used for a return visit any time for a year afterwards. You are also given a guide to the ship which is handy as it's divided into distinct areas which can be easy to get lost in the first time you go inside.
As you step out from the gift shop, the area around the ship is made up to look like a harbour, the ship itself sits in a dry dock with glass covering the gap between the hull and the harbourside. With a shallow layer of water sitting on the top, this gives the impression that the ship is floating. This looks especially impressive when you descend into the area below the hull. You can take the stairs, or a lift if you are mobility impaired, down the to base of the dry dock. From here you can walk around the hull and view the restoration that's been carried out as well as some of the corrosion which remains. This area is specially air conditioned to help keep the hull rust-free. It does look impressive to view the bulk of the ship towering above you through the glass ceiling.
Going back up to the dockside again, there's a separate building which houses a plethora of exhibits from the ship itself including a huge section of mast which spans the entire length. There's a ships wheel complete with computer simulation for the kids to have a play with and a photo exhibit showing the steps taken to retrieve the ship from where it was abandoned to it's new home in Bristol. From here there's a walkway to the ship itself.
The ship is divided into sections as it would have been back in the day when used for passenger transport. There's the rough and ready third class, slightly better second class and the luxurious first class section. All these sections have been restored with authentic furnishings and it really helps bring the era to life. You can also see where the cargo hold was situated and how it would have been used as well as a view of the impressive engine room. You can also walk around the upper deck but the steps to get there are quite steep. Again, provision has been made for a lift in the ship itself if you need help to get about. There are also loos on board, in authentic style but with modern additions.
There's another walkway leading off the ship which takes you around the other side of the dry dock and back to the shop again. There is a cafe and tearoom which did lovely jacket potatos and cake when we stopped there. Weather permitting, you can sit outside directly overlooking the harbourside and enjoy the views of Bristol.
In summary, I think anyone would enjoy this piece of British history. It appeals to young and old and thanks to investment in access, everyone can get in and out easily. I heartily recommend it!
I've lived in Bristol all of my life and had never visited the SS Great Britain and so, one sunny day decided that we would take a visit to this maritime favourite.
Now, I'm not a great fan of museums and so when the trip was suggested was that keen but decided to go along with it. I was pleasantly surprised. You enter the SS Great Britain museum initally, where you can read about the ship in it's original form, it's rescue and then it's rebuild. There are also video's to watch and small tasks for children to carry out to keep them entertained.
Next, you enter the ship, upon which you are given set of headphones and asked which type of passenger you would like to be, first, second or the ship cat. You then stroll around the ship and told really interesting facts about the area that you are currently in. Manequins have been placed throughout the ship, in the clothing of the time so you can really see what it would have looked like when at sea.
Overall I ended up really enjoying the few hours I spent on the ship. On occassions the Matthew is also moored in the same location which you can also visit with your SS Great Britain ticket.
Your ticket allows you to return as many times as you like within 1 year and so, while initially quite expensive, you can return again and again (if you live nearby I guess)
Regrettably Dooyoo did not actually place a picture of the s.s. Great Britain at the head of this review, which may have left you all wondering just what it is you are about to read. Well, the Great Britain is the first iron hulled steam ship, that being the "S.S" or "ss" prefix!
This is a review written from the standpoint of an S.S. Great Britain Trust member of some 13 years standing. The bulk of this will go rather beyond the standard "visitor attraction" review which is so familiar to us all. I am therefore taking the unusual step of writing this in two parts, for the casual visitor looking for an interesting day out and, part 2, for a marine enthusiast, or indeed if part 1 has wetted your appetite sufficiently to find out a little more about the history and building of the dock and ship itself.
Do not worry, I will let you know when to skip part 2!
As a visitor attraction in 2006, the Great Britain is a superb venue for old and young, able and now less able bodied visitors alike. If you have previously visited, even as recently as 12 months ago, the changes here have been staggering, this site really is now a world class visitor attraction, even for those of you totally disinterested in ships.
My wife, her 11 year old sister Klaudia and I visited the S.S. GB on Sunday, 17th July (2005) and saw people of all ages really enjoying a fascinating day out. My wife and sister in law are Polish, my wife is fluent in English whilst Klaudia understands a good amount of it, so we chose for her the audio commentary by the ship's cat, which she thoroughly enjoyed and understood. Grown ups have the choice of listening to first, second or steerage class passengers as they tour the ship. Cleverly, rather than pressing buttons numbered, the audio guide is automatic, triggered by sensors around the ship.
The whole site, thanks to very carefully and enginiously lifts has been made totally wheelchair accessible. One lift takes you to each deck of the ship itself, brilliantly it has been installed within the funnel space and is therefore not so much "low profile" as totally concealed! The other two lifts, one in the museum, the second taking you down to the dock floor ensure access to everything on display here - of all the places recently visited this one has been the most carefully planned from the disabled person's point of view.
There is sufficient general history, colour and fashion displayed here to interest all family members, if like me you are fascinated in marine history then it will certainly satisfy you too. The latest developments have made a simply stunning improvement to the whole visitor experience of the S.S. GB (as I will henceforth refer to it).
The new interior fittings in the old ship have been superbly done. The children in particular love all the tiny (how small were people in the mid 19th Century?) cabins and lifelike mannequins that have been placed in many of them. I would single out the galleys (there are two fully fitted out to see) and first class dining saloon as highlights of the below deck spaces.
I even got to shake hands and have my photograph taken with my hero; Isambard Kingdom Brunel He sits, modestly on a sofa at the rear of the ship on the promenade deck.
Klaudia particularly liked the upper (promenade) deck as here in the open was situated a cow shed (a life size - plastic(!) - cow and pig now in situ) and chicken coup. Children (and adults!) can also play pilot at the ship's wheel, there are photographic opportunities too many to mention really. Majestically not only was this ship powered by steam, but in a very necessary, at the time, belt and braces way, the S.S. GB was equipped with no fewer than six masts.
This is a large ship, and there is plenty to see both in the excellent new museum and in the dry dock underneath the ship. There is an "access all areas" policy here now and I would advise allowing at least two and a half hours for a fairly informative visit, more if you wish to take in everything in one hit.
I am privileged to have witnessed, year by year, the last 12 years restoration and now transformation of this whole site and would earnestly advise anyone who has the opportunity to visit Bristol to spend some time at the S.S. GB. There is more of England's history tied up in the story of this ship than at first sight you would think!
The S.S. Great Britain is situated in the Great Western dock on the southern side of the Floating Harbour in Bristol. Whilst it is a notoriously difficult city to find your way around in the car, there are brown sign posts directing you from most areas outside of the city to the S.S. GB. Wherever you come from, my favourite and recommended route is down the A4 from the north west (M5), through the spectacular Clifton Gorge and under Brunel's breathtaking Clifton Suspension bridge. This route in itself is historic as you are tracing the river on which the S.S. GB made its way to the sea never, until 1970, to return.
The S.S. Great Britain is open every day of the year except 24th & 25th December.
Opening times: April - Oct: 10.00 - 17.30. Nov - Mar: 10.00 - 16.30.
Prices: Adults: £7.50. Children £4.50. Family (2+2) £19.50. Seniors: £6.50.
Now is the time to save your eyes - here comes Part 2, feel free to skip it!
1. Long range Introduction
As a self confessed "car nut", my interest in large merchant ships is both surprising and perhaps almost accidental. As a family we have no maritime connections, my nearest relative to have served at sea was an uncle by marriage who some years ago completed his career as a senior officer aboard the P&O flagship Canberra. Indeed, so much of a land lover am I that, I never successfully managed to learn to swim!
I remember, as a child, having romantic dreams about the giant Cunard liners; the Queen Elizabeth and Queen Mary. The style and proportions of these ships, the power, the glamour, ghosts of an era now past. Overtaken, inevitably, as indeed all of their forebears had been, by increasingly modern technology, not in this case by bigger faster ships, but by a totally different form of transatlantic travel, the much faster air-liners.
That was of course not the end of the great liners, in 1967 the QE2 was launched as a replacement for the now sadly neglected and later positively abused original Queens. In fact since the 1990's we have seen a resurgence in popularity of the cruise type holiday. Regrettably this has not been reflected in the style of the newest ships to ply this trade which now LOOK floating hotels rather than graceful ships.
There are legions of fascinating maritime stories, many of which always seem to remain fresh in the mind of the public. Dare I mention it, but the most famous of them all was also one of the shortest lived, by sinking in 1912 on its maiden voyage with the loss of 1503 souls, the RMS Titanic became a household name, whilst other far more successful ships did not. This is the story not of just one such ship, but the very mother of all modern ships. Brunel's Screw Steamship Great Britain.
2. First Sighting
It was on my very first visit to Bristol in May 1988, on a glorious sunny summers' day, that I first came face to bow with this most handsome vessel. Having driven up from Brighton, the purpose of this visit was to take photographs of two bridges, Brunel's picturesque Clifton Suspension Bridge and its rather larger modern ancestor which bridges the River Severn a few miles to the North. (Since that time of course a second motorway bridge has been built, spanning the River Severn) This mission accomplished, I was now quite unknowingly facing another Brunel masterpiece across a stretch of water, since discovered to be the Floating Harbour. The relationship between this ship and the modern liners was years later, to strike me as amazingly similar to that which exists between those two bridges. At the time I knew nothing whatsoever about the s.s. Great Britain and resolved to visit it another day.
3. Six Years Later......
.Quite by chance I borrowed a copy of Richard Goold-Adams book "Return of the Great Britain" from Brighton Library, not only did this prove to be an excellent read, but also the ideal way of 'discovering' this fascinating ship. As one of the prime instigators of the rescue (from the Falkland Islands) and of the subsequent restoration of the ship, his account was the ideal one to read first. Three days later, having arrived at the last page, I put the book down and couldn't wait to head for Bristol once more.
4. Back to Bristol
The modern and excellent Maritime Museum adjacent to the Great Western Dock does little to spoil the initial sensation of first setting foot there. The short walk along Wapping Wharf bounding the Floating Harbour was by far the most appropriate way to approach the dock. It is lined with buildings of the early Victorian era which suitably roll back the years as you approach the entrance, call it a year per yard and you'll be back to 1843 by the time you get there!
Now, thanks to the full force of the National Lottery funding and complete regeneration of this site you enter the Great Western Dock via the original dock gate, thus stepping from 2005 to July 1843 in one pace, more dramatic but less atmospheric than on my previous visits. The Maritime Museum is also now closed, the majority of its exhibits having been moved to the new museum adjacent to the ship.
5. The Great Western Dock
Entry to the dock, finds you facing the dramatic and highly ornamented stern of the ship, however we're not going to look at that yet, chronologically it was the dock that came first. Here enters the classic "chicken and egg" analogy. In 1838, no slipway or dry dock existed that was large enough to build the ship which Brunel had quite deliberately designed to be twice the size of ANY OTHER ship then afloat. If it wasn't for Brunels' "Mammoth" as she was then known, this dock would not be here, and if the dock had not been built........
I know that this is going to be difficult, but I'm going to ask you to imagine for a moment this dock empty. Its' history, although inextricably linked with the great ship, is worthy of separate consideration. The original dry dock here was aligned at 90 degrees to the Floating Harbour, by today's standard it was tiny, about 20% of its current size. Its original purpose remains something of a mystery, although purchased by The Great Western Steamship Company, it wasn't actually registered as either a dry dock or ship yard. However Bristol was in the mid Nineteenth Century Britain's premier port, coinciding with the Great Railway Co.'s Western terminus, it was the logical place for Brunel to build the ship, apart from which, he now had considerable fondness for the City of Bristol itself.
Here we can see part of the rear wall of the original dock, it widens towards the harbour due to the essential re-alignment that had to take place to allow the ship to be floated out upon launch. Due to the latest, space age developments here, this "widening space" has allowed enough space for the placement of a huge dehumidification plant within the dry dock itself. It has also allowed room for a lift and staircase to take you down, under the water and glass plates now surrounding the ship, to fully view the magnificent hull - under the water line.
If the dock had been extended on the original alignment the Great Britain would have ended up wedged broadsides across the Float, bow wedged on the Gas Ferry steps at Hotwells, stern stuck fast in the dock!
Walking around the top of the Great Western Dock, it is quite obvious that it was indeed custom built for this very ship. This for me, proves to be the magic beneath this whole display, it is unique, here sits the largest ship afloat in 1843, right here in its original birth place. Anyone, and there have been some over the years, who has any doubts about this ships authenticity need spend barely a moment here to have them totally dispelled. I have yet to see a more genuine and convincing display anywhere, museum or otherwise.
Climbing down onto the floor of the dock, one can well understand Brunel needing, in early 1839, to pacify Captain Claxton, the man charged with undertaking this huge excavation. Claxton was worried about the unstable floor of the dock, Brunel assured him that this was quite normal, although how he knew this to be the case when presumably no dock this size had been built is unsure! As in many other things the great engineer turned out to be correct, over 150 years later the original stone lining is still here to prove it. Contemporary observers were impressed with working conditions in the completed dock which possessed the most modern conveniences, gas lighting throughout for instance. Of equal curiosity to me, is the sheer manpower that must have been involved in the excavation of such a site all those years ago.
The cost of building this dock at £53,081 12s. 9d must have given the G.W.S directors some sleepless nights too!
6. Laying "Mammoth's" Keel Plates
Now with the completion of the dock, it's time at last to take a look at the ship. It all started here, down in the bottom of the dock, with the keel blocks, yes those three lines of wooden blocks you see under the ship today are the very ones on which the hull was laid down. The first keel plate was laid on 19th July 1839, thought to be an auspicious date, being two years to the day since the successful s.s. Great Western was launched. (The Great Britain was finally re-docked here on 19th July,1970). Looking along the underside of the hull, it is clear that the ship was designed with additional much smaller outboard keels. These are the docking, or bilge, keels. Standing here underneath the giant hull their purpose is self explanatory, they were designed to ease dry docking. What at the time was less understood is the effect they have on a ship's behaviour in the water, modern ships are fitted with roll stabilisers a 20th Century development of the very feature we are looking at here.
The ship would, and indeed did when first returned here in 1970, sit quite comfortably on these wooden keel blocks, the ironwork seen above is merely for added security and lends additional strength to the hull itself, reducing the tendency for it to distort. It should be borne in mind that that the stresses placed upon even an iron hull in dry dock are completely different to those placed upon it when afloat. In the water the weight is distributed evenly across the surface of the hull, here in dry dock all the weight must be passed down through the keel to the floor of the dock itself.
7. Hull Design
Down here under the ship is probably the best place from which to appreciate the unusual cross sectional shape of the hull. It is in this one vital design element that this ship bears more in relation to its' famous wooden hulled predecessors, notably H.M.S. Victory of the previous century, than it does to either its iron or steel descendants. Indeed the Great Western pre-dating it by two years with her wooden hull and paddle boxes had a more modern "flat sided" hull profile.
Consummate engineer that he was, Isambard Kingdom Brunel had to design his iron ship around parameters laid down by geographical constraints imposed by the location of this dock. Remember, that to allow the launch at all, he had already re-aligned the dock itself. As he had previously been the engineer in charge of improvements to the whole Bristol Dock system he had intimate knowledge of these constraints. The width of the locks giving access to the River Avon determined the width and shape in cross section of the hull. In a similar way the length was limited by two factors. The width of the Floating Harbour, that is the maximum length of ship that could be launched across it, even at the shallower angle now allowed by the dock re-alignment, and the notorious Horseshoe bend in the Avon to the North of the city. So there we have it, local geography is largely to thank for the wonderful shape you see before you now!
8. The Single Screw and Balanced Rudder
Before returning to the dockside, a few minutes to admire the size and form of the propeller and steering gear. The replicas on the ship are a result of the Projects' in my opinion, wise decision to restore the ship to as close as possible her 'Brunel' 1845 original specification.
This design of propeller was to very quickly become the cause of some controversy. Thomas Guppy, liked and respected by Brunel, celebrated marine engineer and largely responsible for installing the engine, felt the propeller to be too small. Others of the day considered likewise, the ships' first Captain, Hosken amongst them. In retrospect he turned out to be a questionable judge anyway, his general seamanship proving unworthy of the ship on several occasions. Before the third Atlantic crossing two inch extensions were riveted to the six arms of the propeller. Inevitably the now over-stressed propeller disintegrated. There is good evidence to suggest that this event may well have been hastened by the ship bottoming on shallows off New York, due to Hosken's faulty navigation. Fortunately, by necessity in those days, the Great Britain had been designed as an auxiliary sailing ship, a role which it played admirably well.
Apart from the shape of the hull itself, fundamental to its handling under steam was Brunel's balanced rudder design. The forward shaft is the tapered rudder post which passes through a large bearing mounted in the stern frame. The rear one is the rudder stock which passes up through the ship, this terminated with a tiller arm situated at the rear of the Promenade Saloon. Attached to the tiller was a rope and pulley system connecting to the ship's wheel on the weather deck above.
9. The 1857 Stern Frame
The huge stern frame, complete with wooden rudder, now a "working" exhibit in the adjacent museum building dates from the first re-fit in 1857. This major modification to the ship was part of the conversion from steamship with auxiliary sail, to sailing ship with auxiliary steam. The large U shaped frame you see here was mounted behind the original stern frame and was designed to allow the fitment of a lifting or "sailing" propeller. To explain as simply as possible, this was a propeller which could be de-coupled, by a clutch, from the driving shaft, and then cranked up through the stern into a housing specially built to take it. Thanks to all that Lottery cash you can now actually perform this task in the museum yourself! The theory behind this being that under sail the drag through the water caused by the propeller would be avoided.
The 1857 Stern Frame survived on the ship until it was removed in 1981 to allow the Brunel replicas to be fitted.
10. Iron Frames, Plates and Rivets!
We are about to leave the bottom of the dock, but before doing so and as we climb back up to the dockside I'm going to ask that once again you place yourself in the past.
It is the summer of 1838, I am a director of the Great Western Steamship Company and am desperate to obtain the mail contract to the rapidly expanding United States. The wooden paddle steamer Great Western is proving so successful that we need a sister ship to maintain a regular unbroken service. Our renowned resident engineer Brunel is trying to convince the board that he can design and build a ship of twice this size making use of the latest technology, an iron ship if you please!
My colleagues and I are having a job to understand what an iron ship is, let alone sanction the cost of building such a vessel with this new largely untested material.
Put extremely simply this is a ship constructed of an iron, framework, onto which iron plates are riveted to form a solid watertight hull. Nothing revolutionary in 2006, but all untested technology in the 1830's. The whole idea is giving myself and the other board members palpitations, we have already paid for a bottomless pit to be dug, now Mr Brunel wants to fill it with our money!
Somehow he talks us unto supporting his ideas and reluctantly we agree to fund his revolutionary iron hulled steam ship.
11. The Great Ship Takes Shape ..
.but what shape?
Having come to terms with the iron construction Mr Brunel now informs the board that this ship would be much faster and more economical if, rather than being fitted with side paddle wheels like its forerunner the Great Western, it was powered by a single screw propeller at the rear of the ship. This was indeed a truly radical concept, one which theoretically could indeed be justified by the savings in internal hold and passenger capacity. Brunel managed to demonstrate that a ship propelled in such a manner would be much faster and more manoeuvrable due to the propeller acting directly upon the rudder - a historical equivalent to power steering on a car I suppose.
Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound, with the project years behind schedule and thousands over budget (nothing in the engineering world changes!) the ship and engine builders created this huge and revolutionary ship.
As they did so theorists came up with all sorts of hair brained reasons as to why Brunel's design simply would not work. A man by the wonderful name of Dianousius Lardner repeatedly wrote to the national press lampooning the size of the ship, claiming that it would split in the middle, being so long that it would crest two waves at once and simply collapse into the trough in the middle. Others stated that such a ship would need to carry more than its own weight in coal to propel it from one side of the Atlantic to the other. They obviously had failed to notice the six huge masts - it had never been Brunel's intention that the s.s. Great Britain would rely on horsepower (about 1000hp from the primitive twin cylinder 'triangle' patented by Brunel's father Sir Marc in 1822) alone, he was a realist and knew how unreliable the power plant was likely to be.
12. The Launch
On Wednesday 19th July, 1843, the ship, externally very much as it now looks today was launched with great ceremony into the Floating Harbour in Bristol, to be tied up alongside the opposite wharf (where the A4 now runs along Hotwells Road) to be fitted out.
13. The unluckiest number so far for Mr Brunel .
..we are nearing the end of the beginning for Mr Brunel's Iron Ship, but she's not going to leave Bristol to take up her long and illustrious career without giving he and the board members another almighty headache.
Here we have, floating comfortably at last, a ship of 322ft (100 metres) in length and 50ft 6in (15.4 metres) in breadth. She weighed an incredible 3,675 tons unladen. Her total cost to build was reported by The Great Western steam Ship Company as £117,295 6s 7d. That figure did not include the aforementioned works on the dry dock.
The ship remained here for almost 18 months until 12th December 1844 Brunel had that headache to cure - his ship was too big to fit through the outer lock system from the Floating Harbour into the Cumberland Basin and thence the River Avon and to the sea.
His detractors were at it again, no doubt disappointed that the ship had not sunk under its own weight:
(The ship is) "in the predicament of a fattened weasel that, while feeding and fattening in the farmer's granary, grew too big for the hole by which it gained admission" - so said the "Mechanics Magazine" of the day!
Brunel, practical and ingenious to the last, quite literally took hammer and chisel to the lock gates until they were wide enough to take the Great Britain's girth.
14. Goodbye to Bristol for 126 years!
After a very long and glorious history on the seven seas, ending with the hulk of the Great Britain being used as a grain store (pity the "Mechanics Magazine" had no comment!) in the Falkland Islands, on 19th July 1970 after a mammoth rescue operation (the ship rode on the back of a barge all the way from the South Atlantic!) the s.s. Great Britain was re-docked in the place of her creation.
15. Back to The Present.
Comparing pictures of the weather-beaten wreck that was docked there in 1970 and the appearance of the ship that you see now is a true tribute to the thousands who have worked, mostly volunteers, on the scrupulous restoration job during those intervening 35 years.
This is a truly historic vessel, one whose story is long and fascinating. This ship is well worth visiting, its history is well told in the superb new museum alongside the ship. As a board member I would, all over again, be having palpitations at the idea of enclosing the dry dock and dehumidifying everything below, but it will ensure that the fabric of the hull, the now fragile ironwork, will last hopefully for centuries into the future.
The outward appearance of the ship is now breathtaking. The glass plates have 50mm of water pumped over the top of them from the harbour. You are able from most angles to see the joins in the glass, but the illusion of the ship being afloat is a good one. The area beneath the ship is now much more accessible, the view standing against the dock gate looking up at the bow under water is one that I will not forget. The only downside as far as we could tell was that after a long, hot and dry period of weather, the harbour water pumped over the top of the glass plates smelled appallingly!
Thank you to:
1. Mr Brunel for designing and ensuring that this extraordinary ship was built.
2. The hard work and dedication of the original trustees of the charity who rescued the ship from certain destruction.
3. The many hard working volunteers who until a few years ago restored the ship on a shoestring.
4. To the National Lottery Commission who, due to their grant, turned this into a truly world beating visitor attraction.
5. You the reader for having the patience to read all this! I hope that it was of interest and that you may be sufficiently curious to one day spend a few hours admiring and learning more about this wonderful ship.
Step back in time on board Brunels ss Great Britain the worlds first great ocean liner. Launched in 1843 to provide luxury travel to New York, the ship set new standards in engineering, reliability and speed. She was the world's first large iron ship and the first to be driven by a screw propeller.


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Is it supposed to go this slow?
Is there like an actual way we are supposed to set our lineup? Like do we have a starting 5 or what?
Jose Slaughter posted this a while back, it will help with setting your lineup.
Ok thats pretty much what I thought it was.
ok just a quick question - the lineup on sports.ws for game 1 was all out of wack for me - will that game count? how is that going to work as i had submitted a different lineup on here...
I posted this question on the message board on sports.ws website too, but how do you change a player from F-C to C-F, or vise versa?
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Click on the player to highlight him, then under your roster there will be a "switch pos" feature. Click on that & that should do it.
Setting your lineup on here was for Able's site. If we move there he can go back & get scoring for the first game using that lineup.
I didn't get things set up in time for the Sports.ws site to score our first game. So, we're playing a 53 game season on Sports.ws. If we move to Able's site we might get that first game back & that would make it a 54 game season.
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A SHOW of hands of the audience was good news for the Liberal Democrats at the packed Euro election hustings in Winchester last night.
Their candidate Catherine Bearder MEP clearly beat Daniel Hannan, the Conservative MEP.
There was further good news for the pro-Europeans as around two-thirds of the audience said they wanted to remain in the EU.
Earlier the candidates were asked about immigration, trade, jobs and energy.
On immigration Alan Stevens, for UKIP, said he favoured a points system which would see more skilled non-white, non-EU immigrants. He added: "The EU is a jobs killer. In Hampshire the Ford factory was shipped out to Turkey with EU money."
John Howarth, for Labour, said he knew of a young Pole from Southampton who had won entrepreneur of the year and now employed 35 British people. "Immigration has not been bad for the British economy, but when the economy goes bad people blame the immigrants. We have learned tolerance and we need to stop hate-peddling."
Mr Hannan took a strong Eurosceptic line. "We are currently trapped in the only trade bloc on the planet that is shrinking economically. That is no place for a country like ours."
He said the EU trade bloc was based on geographic proximity which has been overtaken by technological change.
Ms Bearder said thousands of British jobs would be lost if the UK left the EU. Southern-based firms Siemens, GEC, GKN, Unilever, Airbus and Nissan had all called for the UK to stay.
Keith Taylor, Green MEP, said it was vital to put people and the environment at the centre of things and not private profit.
He said complaints that immigrants were taking housing, whereas there was insufficient social housing because of the Conservative Right to Buy policy of the 1980s.
There was cross-panel agreement that the benefits system needs to be tightened; that was a domestic issue and nothing to do with the EU.
Around 150 people squeezed into the conference chamber in the Guildhall, a decent number although the meeting was originally booked for the much larger Bapsy Hall.
The hustings was organised by the cross-party European Movement. The polls are on May 22.


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The recession didn't hurt foodservice sales of potatoes as much as it could have, according to some sources.
"We expected the recession to result in a decline in foodservice sales, but we didn't see near the reduction we expected to see," said Mike Carter, chief executive officer of Bushmans' Inc., Rosholt, Wis.
However, Carter said whatever the state of the economy, there will be room for expansion in the future.
"There is no question, consumers continue to eat out despite the fact that economic times aren't as strong as we'd like them to be," he said. "We're certain that segment will continue to grow over time."
Still, the effects of the recession were felt to some degree at least.
"The restaurant trade is still down from the recession," said Ralph Schwartz, directory of category management at Potandon Produce LLC, Idaho Falls, Idaho.
Other companies agree that the foodservice business is still down but say they have noticed a comeback.
"We have seen a 10% increase in our foodservice business over last year," said Tracy Fowler, general manager for potatoes and onions at Raleigh, N.C.-based L&M. "It seems that restaurants are making a rebound."
To help encourage that comeback, L&M has been working on some aggressive undisclosed promotional programs with foodservice companies.
"We are seeing a 'bounce' back in foodservice orders," Fowler said in an e-mail.
"This bounce can be credited to three private companies working together to be aggressive to help the restaurant business," he said.
Other companies and organizations are also working on foodservice promotions.
"We're working on a unique foodservice and wholesale promotion that hasn't been launched yet," said Greg Donald, general manager of the Prince Edward Island Potato Board, Charlottetown.
Donald said he thinks there is still a lot of room for expansion in the foodservice arena.
"We value that segment, but it's an area we think there are more opportunities," he said.
"With restaurants, there is still room for growth," said Tim O'Connor, president and chief executive officer of the U.S. Potato Board, Denver.
To help increase demand from foodservice, the board sponsored its eighth Culinary Institute of America seminar. This year's theme was The New American Menu: Global Flavors, Healthy Appeal.
The event is designed to inspire chefs for restaurants and retail chains with innovative potato recipes.
This year's attendees included chefs from Wendy's, Shoney's, Sizzler and Whole Foods, according to a news release.
"It's more art than science," O'Connor said. "We get chefs inspired and then let them play in the kitchen. They come up with dozens and dozens of dishes."
Other options
Don Odiorne, vice president of foodservice for the Idaho Potato Commission, said potatoes can actually help restaurants recover from the recession.
"There's a good opportunity for fresh produce to fill more of the plate," Odiorne said, referencing the higher costs of protein.
Odiorne said instead of using large cuts of meat, restaurants can reduce the size of the protein and use a larger potato.
"We're encouraging chefs to increase the side of the plate that's devoted to produce," he said.
He mentioned one restaurant that added a lobster-topped baked potato to the menu as a way of offering a premium item while keeping the price economical.
So far, restaurants seem open to the idea of switching up their plates in this way.
"It's being received pretty well," he said.
It isn't just large russet potatoes being used in foodservice. Other varieties are gaining in popularity, too.
"A lot of reds are used in restaurants," said Paul Dolan, general manager of Associated Potato Growers, Grand Forks, N.D.
Specialty varieties are also becoming more popular with chefs.


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It's Wednesday, that magical day of the week when Diamond Comics ships comics and toys to good little comic shop customers across America. Which also means it's time for the latest products from Diamond Select Toys. This week we get the last Marvel Select Avengers figure, and the first series of figures based on Alice: Madness Returns.
First up, American McGee's take on the Alice in Wonderland story, as seen in the game Alice: Madness Returns, is now a line of "Select" action figures. The first assortment of 7-inch scale figures features the Cheshire Cat, a zombie Card Guard and Alice Liddell herself, complete with Vorpal blade, hobby horse and pepper grinder. And if youre lucky, your local shop also ordered in the Previews-exclusive Hysteria Alice, featuring Alice in her unstoppable Hysteria Mode from the game.
And Marvel Select fans can finally rejoice, now that their Avengers team has someone to fight. The Chitauri Footsoldier figure is out today, complete with a section of the bridge where the climactic battle of the film took place. The bridge piece even connects to Hawkeye's bridge piece, to form a larger diorama.
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Lupus Organizations Unite to Stimulate Advances in Lupus Research
Lupus Insight Prize to be awarded to Outstanding Scientist
For the second year, the Alliance for Lupus Research (ALR), the Lupus Foundation of America (LFA), and the Lupus Research Institute (LRI) will again join together to encourage scientific advances in lupus research. The Lupus Insight Prize, a novel collaborative initiative among the three organizations, will recognize and honor an outstanding investigator with a documented record of creativity, innovation, and productivity in lupus investigations, and with a high likelihood of generating further advances in the diagnosis and treatment of the disease. Lupus is an unpredictable and sometimes fatal autoimmune disease that affects an estimated 1.5 million Americans. The Lupus Insight Prize will be awarded annually by the sponsoring organizations.
The Request for Nominations will open December 18, 2013, with applications due by February 20, 2014. The 2014 Prize will be awarded at the Federation of Clinical Immunology Societies (FOCIS) annual meeting on June 25, 2014 by the three organizations.
"Our hope is that the continued collaboration between the Alliance for Lupus Research, the Lupus Foundation of America, and the Lupus Research Institute in the form of the Lupus Insight Prize is strong testimony to the dedication and commitment of these organizations to find a cure for lupus," said Mary K. Crow, M.D., Chair, ALR Scientific Advisory Board, Physician-in-Chief and Chair, Department of Medicine, The Hospital for Special Surgery. "The Prize encourages innovation. It furthers lupus research and allows for investigators to move the science and understanding of lupus forward," commented Gary S. Gilkeson, M.D., Chair, LFA Medical-Scientific Advisory Council. Peter Lipsky, M.D., LRI Scientific Advisory Board Member and Editor-in-Chief of Arthritis Research and Therapy adds, "This Prize recognizes important novel achievements in any scientific field that might impact lupus, and also provides funds to carry out the experiments that will lead to new insights about lupus and novel therapies for those who need it the most."
The Lupus Insight Prize recipient will be awarded $200,000 to be used for research dedicated to furthering understanding of the genetic, environmental, molecular, immunologic, or cellular aspects of lupus or its treatment. The Prize must be utilized within three years from the date awarded.
Lupus Insight Prize nominations will be reviewed by members of the independent Selection Committee, which is comprised of leading lupus scientific leaders from across the country and representatives of the three funding lupus organizations. The Selection Committee will review nominations and award the Prize based on several criteria, including academic achievements, creativity, insight, and potential for future advances that will improve the lives of people with lupus.
Nominations are open to investigators of any age or rank affiliated with an academic, biomedical, research, or government institution in the United States. Nominations will not be accepted for investigators working in the biotechnology or pharmaceutical industries. Additionally, nominees may not already possess a grant award to pursue the aims described in the Research Narrative. Co-investigators or teams of investigators are not eligible for the Lupus Insight Prize.
Instructions on how to submit a nomination for the Lupus Insight Prize and the complete guidelines are available at www.LupusInsightPrize.org. Nominators and Candidates should work together to prepare each Candidate's Letter of Nomination for The Lupus Insight Prize. Nominations of basic, clinical, and translational scientists will be considered. The Nominator should submit a two-page Letter of Nomination, describing the worthiness, expertise and achievements of the Candidate and specifically focus on the unique insight generated by the Candidate that might have an impact on advancing the future of lupus research. The Letter of Nomination should clearly state the insight for which the candidate is being nominated. The full application must be submitted no later than February 20, 2014 at 5 p.m. ET.
The Prize recipient will be announced and honored publicly in June of 2014 in a ceremony at the FOCIS 2014 Annual Meeting in Chicago, IL. This ceremony will include an opportunity for the award recipient to share plans about his/her lupus research. Details about the reception honoring the Prize recipient will be posted to www.LupusInsightPrize.org in the coming months.


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Alastair Cook can look forward to overseeing a new England era, perhaps alongside Ashley Giles, perhaps in the company of Jonathan Trott - but definitely, of course, without Kevin Pietersen.
Cook has given his captain's seal of approval for England's "brave call" to axe their record runscorer.
On the day Trott made his first tentative return following his early departure with a stress-related illness last November from the Ashes drubbing down under, Cook spoke for the first time since the England and Wales Cricket Board called time on Pietersen's international career.
In doing so, he left little room for any residual doubt about his own role in the process which left the South Africa-born batsman out in the cold for good.
England's Test and one-day international captain confessed his frustration at not being able to speak freely about the reasons for the parting of ways after the winter whitewash, advising patience before the full story is told "soon".
The ECB made it clear, in a statement shortly after Pietersen's enforced international retirement in February, that the defence of issues such as "trust" and "team ethics" underpinned their decision.
England have gone on in Pietersen's absence to conclude their winter of discontent with a lacklustre ICC World Twenty20 campaign, ending in an embarrassing dead-rubber defeat against minnows Holland on Monday.
Cook played no part in that either, because he is not currently in England's team in the shortest format.
The opener is due to return in next month's ODI against Scotland in Aberdeen, by which time England will have a new head coach in place following Andy Flower's resignation as team director in January.
Cook does not yet know therefore whether he will be working with limited-overs coach Giles - in an enhanced role - or one of a clutch of other contenders, all to be interviewed for the job this month.
He has no qualms at all, however, about the decision to omit Pietersen from England's future.
"It was a brave call which took guts and consideration," said Cook.
"You do have to say at some point, 'This is the way we're going to do it moving forward.'"
Various versions of events have been put forward about the apparent breakdown of Pietersen's working relationship with management at the start of this year, a repeat of history twice over following his power struggle with former coach Peter Moores in 2008 and his well-documented disagreements with Flower and then captain Andrew Strauss in 2012.
It was Strauss' successor Cook who reportedly helped to facilitate Pietersen's reintegration two years ago.
But this time, he said: "We all know how important team culture and team unity is.
"It was obviously a very big and important decision.
"I know things will become clearer in a little bit of time.
"I know it is frustrating. It is frustrating for me, because I have not totally been able to tell my side of the story. People just have to be a little bit patient."


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This software was designed to simplify your research on personal or business documents, it is akin to a search engine. You can imagine databases on different topics, Photo Album, personal documents, catalog of a company and many others.
The initial project has begun in June 2006, i developped this application for the company where i work in GPL licence. This software was used internally by employees and by their clients. This project was used until the end of 2009. The initial project was called "LA SCHEM@TECH" and was used to search pdf documents : electrical diagram , synoptic. I began to refound it completely and add new features in a proroject called "IDEALTAKE" in october 2007. The first usable version come in July 2012.
Installation files are made for windows XP( Version 1.4), windows seven, 8 and 10 use version 1.5.
Two databases of demo are available in the newest version 1.5 with a local MariaDB server.
- Search Engine
- Three methods of research simplified, advanced, guided
- Database adapted to different application domain e.g : knowledge base, Catalog business...
- Server configuration simple and free Apache + MariaDB + .NET Framework
- Managing local or internet
- System backup and restore the database in xml format
- By local security account (encrypted data) for data management
- Second layer of security stored in the database encrypted way, an account must be created in the database for data management
- Third layer of security access to MySql with a secure SSL stream (option of MySQL)
- Connection Manager with a description of the scope
- Server Status
- Diagnosis of server connection
- Interface configurable font, size, color
- As google AutoComplete mode for keywords
- Graphics style given pie chart that describes the data in the database
- Help the visually impaired thanks to a speech sinthesis, increased font size keys
- Setting Skin possible
- Five languages: German, English, Spanish, French, Italian
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Amazing project, which ease our life quite a lot.
Easy and helpful, i enjoy using this program. Don't pass, download and use it!
no trouble to install and run, works nicely.
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text: A sizable crowd braved the rainy weather Saturday to attend the fourth annual Tree Lighting Ceremony and Holiday Stroll on Piedmont Avenue. Above left, accordionist Salane Schultz led the crowd in singing holiday carols as a buildup to Santa's arrival. Above right, Santa greets the children, who formed a line to have photos taken with him. Above, the lit tree is shown at Key Route Plaza. "The event was a great opportunity to bring all of the community together and to thank all of the residents and businesses for making Piedmont Avenue a truly special place," said Noella Teele, co-owner of Issues magazine store on Glen Avenue.


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Frisco, Texas -- Multichannel media production software developer Comosoft said Tuesday that Orvis has selected it to begin implementation of a system to manage Orvis's multichannel media production process.
The outdoor retailer is currently currently implementing Comosoft's multichannel media production system, LAGO, which is designed to drive the planning, creation, and management of multichannel marketing and product promotion.
"We realize the need to consolidate our print and digital production workflow into a single content management system," said Meg Kearton, director of catalog production for Orvis. "We are searching for a more efficient way to promote our products through all of our print and digital channels. This is why we are implementing the LAGO system from Comosoft."
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Anime of Tomorrow
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|January 23
|Mirai Nikki Ep. 13 What is going on? This is all very exciting, but I was under the impression Yukiteru and Yuno were in the clear by now.
|Mirai Nikki Ep. 14 Who are these new adversaries? They're a team, but what are their motives? In a survival game there's only one winner.
|Daily Lives of High School Boys Ep. 1 Final impression – a guy's anime for sure (5/10) http://wp.me/p1Gaby-gG
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|Another Ep. 2 I hate these kinds of shallow cliffhangers. There's just no purpose for them other than to get you to watch the next episode.
|Another Ep. 3 I see a web of bonds and painful pasts coming together to form a big picture, but I can't imagine what it will turn out to be.
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|Ano Natsu Ep. 3 Oh the unfortunate misunderstandings and the wild imaginations. Where would we be if everyone stopped assuming?
|The iDOLM@STER Ep. 25 A nice, generic ending to get everything wrapped up with no loose ends. Nothing special, but I'm not complaining.
|Persona 4 Ep. 14 Yuu's summer vacation has ended. I was worried the down time in P4 wouldn't be given good service. I'm glad I was wrong.
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CINCINNATI Procter & Gamble is looking to bolster productivity and drive growth by trimming about 15 percent of its staff at the general manager level and above, according to published reports.
The company, whose brands include Crest and Pantene, was reported as saying that many of the job cuts will come through attrition as associates retire or leave the company.
P&G is also working to reduce by half the number of distribution centers it operates globally. According to reports, it has shuttered more than 200 of its 571 distribution centers so far, and expects to close another 70 by the end of 2009.
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Foster, Tyler and Josh McHibbert (sorry, the third slot was a toss-up)
George, Granger, Hibbert
Roy, Collison and Rush
I don't have a particular favorite, but these are my Top 3. Seems like they're popular choices among the Blue and Gold faithful here.
(PG would be #4)
Tyler Roy and Brandon
1) Roy
2) Tyler
3) Granger
Honorable mention
a) PG
b) Lance
Foster, Hansbrough, McRoberts
Hansbrough, Hibbert, Foster
Danny, Tyler, Paul
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Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the esteem of Elohim,
Ephisians 4: 32 And be kind towards one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as Elohim also forgave you in Messiah.
Roy, Darren, Paul
Paul, George, and Ringo.
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It's a new day for Pacers Basketball.
Josh...tough call here, 3 guys for 2 spots - Rush, Price, Roy
Yes, all have struggled at times, but when they dial it in I enjoy their style of games the most.
But I feel guilty because Foster has been a favorite since his 2nd year and he's done nothing to ruin that except become a bigger fan fave, doesn't need my support so much any more.
Hansbrough, McRoberts, George
But wait a second, what's with all the Hans mentions? I mean surely we all know his massive struggles to get respect - what's it going to take for you people to like him....even more I guess???
Sorry, can't resist making fun of that ludicrous thread. We all know Tyler's doing just fine in the area of massive fan support and is probably the #1 fan favorite in the building per cheers. Don't take my sarcasm of that thread as a knock on Tyler or his fans, he busts it and that deserves fans.
But we may as well have had a thread saying "What's it going to take to get Nap to appreciate Josh?"
Isn't it a great sign that we have such diversity in mentions even with people allowed 3. Feels like for all the ups and downs the team does have a deep core of guys that people enjoy. Even the team's star, Granger, is not dominating the lists.
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Hard to decide.. But I'll go with
Hibbert, Granger, Hansbrough, with George and Foster not far behind.
love DC (when he is playing with focus) and Josh too so they deserve a shoutout.
Josh, Hansbrough and Rush.
Just missed: Hibbert
Honestly, it was really hard to pick just three..whether they are the most talented or not, they are very likable.
McRoberts, Dunleavy, Stephenson.
How far Danny Granger has fallen. Really wish this had been a poll...
I'll just go with guys who have been crapped on unfairly that I have a fondness for, Pacers best underrated...
I'm on the fence with Collison.
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Program to Attract, Retain Top Faculty Reaches $345 Million Investment Return
AUSTIN – A 6-year-old program aimed at attracting and retaining top faculty from around the world to University of Texas System institutions has generated a net return of more than $345 million in research grants and clinical trial support.
The initiative, known as the Science and Technology Acquisition and Retention program – or STARs – was hailed as one of the UT System's most successful programs during a presentation to the Board of Regents on Thursday (Aug. 12).
"The STARs program adds tremendous value to the UT System because it attracts and retains outstanding investigators who have achieved national or international prominence; affords our institutions an extraordinary level of excellence of benefit to our faculty and students; and provides a substantial return on investment in the form of research grants and support for clinical trials," said UT System Regents' Chairman Colleen McHugh.
Also Thursday, Regents authorized $35 million more for the STARs program, which will be available to institutions beginning in Fiscal Year 2011. The funds will be used to attract and retain researchers to UT System academic and health institutions.
The UT System has invested a total of $85 million into the program, which in turn has helped attract more than $345 million ($255 million to academic institutions and $90 million to health institutions) in research grants and clinical trial support.
In UT System academic institutions alone from 2005 to 2007, STARs-related research activity led to 177 patents either issued or pending; more than 1,500 published scientific articles; and 51 national awards.
Among some of the noted STARs recruits are Dr. Russell Hulse of UT Dallas, a co-winner of the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1993 for the discovery of the first binary pulsar; Dr. Richard Aldrich of UT Austin, a recognized leader in neurobiology who was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 2008; Dr. C. Thomas Caskey of the UT Health Science Center at Houston, a physician and biochemist who has discovered numerous genetic disease genes; and Dr. Joseph Takahashi of UT Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, a neuroscientist whose research has brought greater understanding to the molecular and genetic basis of circadian rhythms in mammals.
Launched in 2004, the STARs program uses bond proceeds from the Permanent University Fund to purchase state-of-the-art equipment or renovate laboratory facilities to help attract or retain researchers in health, science, technology, engineering and mathematics.
STARs award recipients are selected through a competitive process administered by the UT System. Nominees are identified and recommended by university faculty groups before a UT System peer review committee vets the prospective recipients for selection in the program.
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I was raised in rural North Carolina in a town called Altamahaw-Ossipee. Yes – hard to pronounce and hard to find.
My parents and another couple, Jim and Susan Walton, met at a Quaker retreat and made a plan to live communally in a log house built with their own hands.
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The analysis of the semantics of +RTS -s and the list of needed new events
A sample output of +RTS -s, annotated with new require events. More concrete proposals will follow.
237,179,528 bytes allocated in the heap
An event for memory allocation and freeing memory via GC.
52,785,584 bytes copied during GC
An event for copying during GC.
17,272,336 bytes maximum residency (5 sample(s))
An and event for that ("only checked during major garbage collections").
6,493,328 bytes maximum slop
An event for slop, probably emitted rarely, also.
45 MB total memory in use
Can probably be calculated from allocation and deallocation.
(0 MB lost due to fragmentation)
Ask JaffaCake? what does the formula mean:
(peak_mblocks_allocated * BLOCKS_PER_MBLOCK * BLOCK_SIZE_W - hw_alloc_blocks * BLOCK_SIZE_W) / (1024 * 1024 / sizeof(W_))
in particular what is the difference between peak_mblocks_allocated and hw_alloc_blocks.
Tot time (elapsed) Avg pause Max pause Gen 0 448 colls, 0 par 0.04s 0.04s 0.0001s 0.0016s Gen 1 5 colls, 0 par 0.07s 0.07s 0.0149s 0.0386s
Split the current GC events into generations and into seq/par (if RequestParGC is not enough to tell seq/par). We don't want to report the CPU time, only the elapsed time, and that's fine. With the current GC events only summarized information is available.
Parallel GC work balance: 1.00 (6391526 / 6375794, ideal 2)
This is quite convoluted: total words copied during parallel GCs divided by the average over all parallel GCs of maximal number of words copied by any thread in a single par GC.Revents needed: the events added above suffice, but quite a bit of extra state will have to be maintained when reading the events. Perhaps +RTS -s could be modified to make this figure simpler?
MUT time (elapsed) GC time (elapsed) Task 0 (worker) : 0.04s ( 0.38s) 0.13s ( 0.17s) Task 1 (worker) : 0.00s ( 0.55s) 0.00s ( 0.00s) Task 2 (bound) : 0.41s ( 0.41s) 0.13s ( 0.13s) Task 3 (worker) : 0.00s ( 0.55s) 0.00s ( 0.00s)
Ask JaffaCake? how the "tasks" relate to the "threads" for which we generate events. Perhaps in the existing GC evens add the info about which task does the job. BTW, is the time between event GCIdle and GCWork counted as GC time of the task?
SPARKS: 300001 (17739 converted, 282262 overflowed, 0 dud, 0 GC'd, 0 fizzled)
We have enough events for that (we calculate this using the SparkCounters? events, but we could also use the precise per-spark events).