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|May 24, 2011, 04:52 PM
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I've heard an expert w/pump can fire as fast a semi auto
But after watching a lot of YouTube videos, I don't think so.
I've seen a lot of people fire the pump & the auto and they definately fire the autos more quickly and get more rounds on target in a shorter period of time.
|May 24, 2011, 05:01 PM
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In an expert's hands, sure, and autoloader is darned quick. The question, is whether the regular shooter can deliver the most shots on target in the shortest time.
It's all fairly academic, as most of us are limited to three shots in the game fields.
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|May 24, 2011, 05:26 PM
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I've shot skeet with a pump, and while I readily admit I'm far from expert, I just don't see how a trained person with a pump can be at zero speed disadvantage to a trained person with a semiauto. The recoil impulse of the semi is easier to manage, you don't have a slide to operate (thereby moving the muzzle around), and a semi action is just plain faster to work than human reaction times. While I can hit doubles with a pump, I know I'm just a shade of a tick slower on that second bird.
A trained person with a pump may well be faster than a newbie with a semiauto, but that's comparing apples and oranges anyway.
|May 24, 2011, 05:29 PM
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It is not even close - about twice as fast with semi-auto - That is why I have to laugh, where, in the many, many HD threads someone recommends a pump over an auto because the pump is "just as fast." Since it's half as fast, the only resason to get a pump is because you are used to using a pump action and you like it best. No reason a pump can't be effective.
|May 24, 2011, 05:35 PM
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I agree that it isn't nearly as fast in simply making it go bang. However, when you factor in the time it takes to get back on target, the difference becomes much smaller.
|May 24, 2011, 05:42 PM
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I don't know if double tap is the word you use to describe putting two shotgun hits on a person - seems kind of an understatement.
But anyway, I have heard it said a lot that "with the right training" or "in the hands of an expert" the pump is just as fast, and I don't think that's true.
|May 24, 2011, 05:53 PM
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The idea that a pump is just as fast as an auto is ludicrous.
Sure, "some" auto, somewhere, is slow enough and in the hands of the wrong shooter, slower yet, and such shooter with such gun might well be slower than some other much more competent shooter with a pump.
However, the idea that a skilled shooter would not, generally and virtually always, be able to accurately fire a semi faster than they could a pump under the same circumstances is beyond silly.
|May 24, 2011, 06:01 PM
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A pump can, indeed, be just as fast, even faster.
It all depends on the situation.
I've seen quite a few pump masters win overall at steel and pin matches.
As long as they don't screw up and short stroke.
But, for us normal folks, the auto loader does make life easier.
Except, of course, when they don't auto load.
But that's another can of worms.
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|May 24, 2011, 06:07 PM
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That's because there is a relatively fixed amount of time betweens shots, during the swing, and it is longer than the cyclic time of either an auto or a pump.
Take an instance with much shorter time, Tom Knapp's hand-thrown pidgeon record, for example. There's no way happens with a pump gun.
|May 24, 2011, 06:29 PM
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Yeah, but most of us aren't Tom Knapp.
I think if you roll with the recoil and use it to aid your pumping, a pump shotgun can be cycled fast enough such that it doesn't really matter.
|May 24, 2011, 06:46 PM
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I've heard a lot of braggards about how fast a pump can be and how they're faster with a pump than most people like me with a semi.
Professionals and/or serious competitors? Sure.
The rest ? Nope, sucka, sit down and shut up.
|May 24, 2011, 06:59 PM
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I've seen Tom Knapp perform his stunts on video with a pump as well as an auto. He is only a fraction of a second slower for all shots with a pump than an auto.
I don't think it is possible to be faster with a pump, (given shooters of equal skill) but there will be very little difference if you have to actually hit something. Someone who is just throwing lead down range may be abe to do it, but I'd have to see it before I'd believe it.
I can work a pump pretty fast and have gotten off 3 shots in a hurry, but I can't do it every time. When I try to run a pump that fast I end up short stroking it and messing up fairly often.
|May 24, 2011, 07:28 PM
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What about an older pump without a trigger disconnect?
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|May 24, 2011, 07:30 PM
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There were some slow semi-autos. There are some fast pumpgun shooters. The slowest modern semi is considerably faster than the fastest pumpgun to fire, extract, eject, load, get back on target and fire again.
No-one seriously says differently anymore and hasn't for a few decades...
|May 24, 2011, 07:33 PM
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I've never shot an auto loading shotgun. But I have unloaded 8 rounds at a hand thrown clay. Missed 7 times too.
If pumps were faster than autos I believe that we would see more pump action rifles
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|May 24, 2011, 08:45 PM
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I've competed in NSSA Skeet (4-gauges + doubles) and ATA Trap (singles, handicap & doubles). I never saw anyone compete with a pump gun except in ATA singles and handicap events. Hadn't OP asked about putting shot on target, and just asked about rate of fire, then the auto-loader's lead increases even more. check this out
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|May 24, 2011, 08:46 PM
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Patrick Flanigan holds the current record for hitting hand-thrown clays and its was 6 and now 7 with the pump and 13 with a semi-auto.
|May 24, 2011, 08:48 PM
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No expert with the shot gun here, I am a rifleman first and a pistol shooter by training. However after a year with my semi-auto and 40 years with the pump I can state that I am at least as fast or a bit faster with my pump gun as I am the semi. Not because the semi-auto is slow cycling or the pump is that much easier to shoot but its the getting back on target time that makes the difference for me. I'm just more used to the pump. To just rack out 5 shots in a hurry the semi would win but if I am taking on multiple surface targets like I do when I am practicing my pump gets on target faster and I get my next shot off quicker. In real life there isn't much difference in effectiveness for me but old habits rule the day as far as comfort zone goes. I can use either but the pump will always be my first choice.
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|May 24, 2011, 08:53 PM
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|May 24, 2011, 09:21 PM
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According to The Sporting Clay Tournaments website, as of Feb 8, 2011, Tom Knapp holds the record for handthrown clays with an auto at 10.
Flanigan's website says he did 11 in 2005 but there's no video.
I see no claims to anyone hitting more than 7 with a pump.
Keep in mind that these are the absolute best of the best who shoot clays for a living. They are essentially showing that the best shooters in the world are 10/7 or 11/7 faster with an auto than a pump. That means an auto is between 42 and 57% faster than a pump.
|May 24, 2011, 09:58 PM
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I just don't see how pump action can be faster in the hands of an expert. Wouldn't the semi-auto cycle much faster and stay on target better to deliver the subsequent shots?
I have the Benelli M3, and I can't imagine the pump cycling faster than the semi-auto.
|May 24, 2011, 10:56 PM
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Round per round fired in practice, time behind the bead, a semi will result in a faster rate of fire.
Does 3 shots a second make you more effective than 2?
Is a pump fast enough for defensive use? Sure. Is it reliable for a low time, low skill level user? The Police seem to get by with it effectively. Would a semi be an improvement? I'm not sure, but I think the training curve would be easier.
Also, regarding the lack of a disconnector, I've compared shotguns with and without on pepper-poppers with a timer. I found I did better with the disconnector- the cycling closed of the pump handle tended to make me drop the shot down by the 4 or 5 o'clock on guns without the disconnector.
Of the Police shotgun encounters I've read about, they all seemed to end on shot #1, so draw your own conclusions.
|May 24, 2011, 11:25 PM
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There is a fellow name of Tom Bradley, in a promotional video on youtube by Beretta, for the X-trema2 semi auto, and that thing was akin to a full auto in that man's hands. I couldn't imagine a pump being cycled more rapidly with the same accuracy. YMMV. Check out the video. The title is Beretta Shotgun Xtrema2 Demo
|May 24, 2011, 11:32 PM
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Right it is 11 by Patrick Flanigan and this may be more to the point
"Xtreme Record #6 12 rounds shot in 1.42 seconds with the Winchester SX3 on April 3rd 2007."
Here are pictures of Flanigan's record, breaking 11 hand-thrown clays on pages 2 and 3 of the 2007 Winchester Catalog http://www.browningint.com/services/...es_win07uk.pdf
Here is video of the 12 shots in 1.42 seconds seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Yv6eMG5x0
Now we can move on as the semi-auto blows the doors off the pump action. The pump action is still a good choice for HD, it is what I have for now until I can get an FN SLP or M4 or 930.
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|May 25, 2011, 12:10 AM
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Wouldn't the semi-auto cycle much faster and stay on target better to deliver the subsequent shots?Yes!
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awesome thanks a lot Klay i appreciate it!
Greetings from Sunny South Africa, Been many years since I twisted the ear of a bike , Last week this old workhorse decided to move into my Garage. Its a 1997 DF/DR 200 with 7009km on the clock .
Have some day trips scheduled in and around CapeTown /Elgin/Clanwilliam areas and will post some pics as we go along.
Anyone aware of frame changes from 2003 to 2008? I bought a set of Happy Trail pannier racks, and they don't seem to mounting correctly. While both the bike and the racks are used, neither appear abused enough that far out of skew.
Happy Trail DR200 Pannier Rack
There have been no frame changes. Happy Trails racks aren't always perfectly aligned, and it is typical that a little bending is required in order to fit the racks.
Anyone here have the DR200 Workshop manual in pdf format?
Got mine of eBay about 2 bucks then emailed to me..
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Are the PDF versions legit and complete?
Can someone please post a picture of the wire connector that comes off the rear turn signals? The black plastic part. It is snowing outside so I cannot get to it.
Yes the PDF versions are bad ass.. They email it to you.. You download it.. Then I put file on mini USB card.. Have same USB for all 4 bikes..
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See Klay answered your question. I just had to add that you made me laugh when I read your last line. An inmate called the "thesurvivalist" can't go outside cause it's snowing. :grin
Hi! im Alex, long time advrider reader but new to the dr200 thread
i just recently bought a 2008 DR200se with 32000 miles on the clock. Since then i've noticed that oil is leaking from the top of the motor coming out from a screw. i think is the valve area.
What would you think it could be? im the third owner, just did an oil change last weekend, added synthetic. Since i've added the whole Liter, instead of the 850mL (150mL more than specified) im guessing that the extra oil has no room inside that roaring motor and has to come out somehow.
and how do you guys get rid of the smell of fuel? my girlfriend is complaining of keeping the smell of gasoline on her beatiful person
thanks guys!
Here... the screw where oil is comming out is just under the spark plug cable, see if you can take a look
Can you provide a link to the PDF? I searched ebay and didn't find it.
"i just recently bought a 2008 DR200se with 32000 miles on the clock"
Alex, is that 32 THOUSAND on a four year old 200 cc bike or 32 hundred? If it runs fine, starts easily and just needs a bit of topping off from time to time I'd leave it alone. Otherwise it's rebuild time.
Sorry, didn't read your post well. I'd drain off that extra 150 mils. Also make sure you have no gas in the oil, if you do you should add a real shutoff switch to keep your gas tank from draining down due to the poorly designed vacuum carb setup. I added a 3 or 4 dollar Briggs and Stratton plastic fuel shutoff. Other people change the tank petcock. My system works for me if you remember to use it.
yep it is 32,000 miles on the bike, i think this stud is in real good shape starts fine, electric circuits working well, it just needs to change the clutch plates, boy they are expensive and i drained today the last 150mL lets see if it makes a difference in the oil leaking.
I also noticed some oil in the air filter.
thanks dalehazelton! So changing the fuel petcock solved for you that gasoline smell problem? when i did the carb cleaning couldnt make the gas stop, it was a real pain in the butt
Any suggestions from anyone on how to vent my tank after removing all smog stuff? Can't keep gas flowing.. Bike is a CA model so the gas cap is sealed and locking... Is it possible to put on a little filter on tube coming out of tank that would feed to smog box?to keep gas flowing.. this is the plug I put on tank I need this to be the vent... Any Ideas?
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Finding a vented cap seems like a simple option, though I know they are expensive new, perhaps a used one can be found. Good luck.
<label for="rb_iconid_5"></label>Good evening everyone.Newbie seeking advice.I have a 1996 DR200 with a cold weather starting problem.After reading previous posts,i am going to insert a larger pilot jet into the little rascal.My query concerns the air mixture screw at the front of the carb.Does anyone know how many turns from fully screwed in this item needs.All the manual tells me is to screw it out the same number of times it takes to screw it in,which presupposes it was in correct adjustment to start with.Which it might not be.Any advice welcome.Cheers,Mick.


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As it now stands, Bruce plays everyday in RF. Stubbs & Dickerson paltoon in CF. Balentin, Heisey and Dorn compete for LF (possibly another platoon).
In Lousiville, Francisco is you everyday LF to see if he can cut it (he ain't playing 3B). with Frazier everyday at third.
Personally though, I think now is the time to deal Francisco if someone out there is enamored enough to put up something valuable for him. As I said, I don't think he's got a chance of playing third, I'm not much more confident about left and I think his penchant for SOs and low walk rate will expose his bat in any apreceiable major league stint. I've got a feeling that including him in a deal now might just be selling high.


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The Fairfax County Wastewater Collection Division's sewer maintenance practices are featured as a case study on the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's Web site. The case study about the county can be found at www.epa.gov/npdes/sso/virginia.
The EPA highlights the division, a part of the Department of Public Works and Environmental Services, because the county is following techniques based upon the agency's suggested sewer management framework. In fact, the county began implementing its re-engineered approach in 1995, before the EPA rolled out its recommended practices.
The federal agency is encouraging localities to adopt a framework of sewer maintenance and management techniques, called Capacity, Management, Operation, and Maintenance or CMOM for short. CMOM aims to help localities eliminate sewer backups and overflows, extend the life of its sewer system assets, increase customer satisfaction, and improve system rehabilitation and diagnostic methods.
In accordance with CMOM, the county implemented new operations and maintenance procedures. Rehabilitation projects focused on trunk lines, sewer mains, manholes and pumping stations.
The county's 3,200-mile sanitary sewer system contains 64 pump stations, 280 grinder pumps, 53 permanent flow meters, and 11 rain gauges. The system collects an average of 100 million gallons of wastewater per day and delivers it to five treatment plants.
For more information, please contact Ifty Khan, Fairfax County Wastewater Collection Division, at 703-250-2700, TTY 711, or learn more about the county's Wastewater Collection Division by visiting www.fairfaxcounty.gov/living/publicworks.


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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - The Duval County Supervisor of Elections Office saved nearly $900,000 last year and is seeking to apply that money toward paying down about $1.5 million in debt.
Supervisor of Elections Jerry Holland said in a news release his office made $898,105 in operational savings last fiscal year and filed legislation with the Jacksonville City Council to apply those savings to its outstanding debt.
As of Jan. 28, the elections office had just less than $1.5 million in debt after the purchase of new voting machines needed for the 2012 presidential election, according to the release. Applying the nearly $900,000 in savings would cut the debt by nearly two-thirds, leaving just less than $570,000.
"We have worked hard to be wise stewards of taxpayer funds for which the people of Duval County have entrusted with us," Holland said. "I believe if an elected official is able to realize budgetary savings, the fiscally responsible thing to do is to use the monies to get out of debt. I hope the council will agree."
The legislation is scheduled to be introduced at the council meeting Tuesday. From there it will be reviewed by the finance committee on March 5 and is scheduled to be considered for a vote by the full council on March 12.
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Hello all, I was made aware of this forum from CJ (thanks CJ). The picture above is the actual box. They are very strong. I made about 6 of those carts about a year ago. Because of some early flooding at my house this year and a hectic schedule, I was unable to continuing making them. However, I am in the process of making some more with a slight modification. I am hoping things work out and I can have some finshed in August some time.
If you are interested in one let me know. They come in black, orange and green (camo sort of)
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Description As my final year project at school, I wrote a real-time logic simulator, called Atanua.
Atanua has an intuitive, OpenGL accelerated user interface, with which the user can place components and wires. Components include all common logic blocks, including gates, latches and flipflops. Additionally Atanua simulates about 30 different 74-series chips, as well as an 8051 microcontroller variant. Simulated and pure logic parts can be mixed in the same circuit. On the I/O front, Atanua includes several different frequency clock inputs, constant level inputs as well as buttons that are bound to the user's keyboard. LEDs in various colors as well as 7-segment displays are also included. There is also a simple logic probe for debugging.
The simulated parts are designed to resemble their real-world counterparts, which is more attractive for the students than pure schematics. The students can practice lab experiments using the simulated chips. The simulation shows the signal state of each wire in real time. In addition to high and low signal level, parts may output "invalid" signal, stating that there is a problem with the circuit, such as outputs connected together, or missing wirings from some chip.
Additional parts can be made using the plug-in interface. As an example plug-in, a driver for the Velleman K8055 USB experiment board is provided, with which the user can mix simulated and real-world components. An anti-cheating tool is also available for teachers who wish to use Atanua for homework.
Available at http://atanua.org for win32, OSX and Linux, free for personal use.
Wow, I like very much this kind of app, will be downloading my free copy for sure, thanks!
I cannot consider myself an electronic professional, but I like to experiment with digital circuits.
Last time I used something like this it was DOS era, and those dinos were cool to prototype.
Damn, if only this were available several years ago when I was doing electrical engineering labs! This would have saved me hours from having to go in! Shucks!
Good job Sol, I can see this being extremely useful for students and electrical engineers alike. I trust you got 100% on this project? I wouldn't accept any less
Damn, if only this were available several years ago when I was doing electrical engineering labs!
I've lost count on how many times I've heard that =)
aehm. programs like this existed for years.
The first one I have seen run on a C64 and did all the graphics in text-mode. It was cool to tinker with it, but it lacked some things like multiplexers ect.
Yes, I trust all of them have a particle system too.
Most circuit simulators are rather complicated (and expensive) as they bother with things like laws of physics or capabilities to output a netlist that might actually work, etc. This one was designed to have as low learning curve as possible so that you can have fun playing around with the parts.
So yes, it's not the first, but it's a new twist on the theme.


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So, I was just talking to the Universe, and I was like, hey, Universe, not that you asked, but you don't look a day over 13 billion. Then the Universe was all, thanks, Paul, but I'm actually 13.82 billion! And I was all NO WAY.
io9 has a list of fictional omnipotent beings, like Q, who are also jerks. Weirdly not on the list: Yahweh.
The Atlantic: 44% of parents will not get their daughters vaccinated for HPV, and one big reason is "safety concerns."
Emily Willingham at Forbes reports that paranoia about the MMR vaccine has spooked scientists from being forthright about actual problems with other vaccines, lest they get attacked:
The misinformed noise drowning out the evidence-based signal has added up to a threat to public health and fueled outbreaks of vaccine-preventable diseases. And now, it threatens the progress of science and public health in a completely different way.
Scammer in religious garb who quotes the Bible encourages folks to be wary of scammers in religious garb who quote the Bible. And to send money.
State of Tennessee to the University of Tennessee: No money for "Sex Week"!
Al Jazeera's 101 East does a program on blasphemy laws in Pakistan, "Murder in God's Name."
An appeal by three members of Pussy Riot is rejected.
Prepare to release the Kraken...of secularism! CFI On Campus's affiliate of the week is the Cal State Fullerton's Titans for Reason!
17-year-old atheist Luis Ruuska is bullish on Pope Francis.
FFRF wants the removal of a Vietnam memorial cross in Coos Bay, Oregon.
Guys. Obama has an alien security guy. WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
Atheist Jew babysits Orthodox Jewish kid, learns about the Torah and Barbie-torture.
A new book, The Bonobo and the Atheist, looks at how morality is developed without the help of a deity.
Mark Crislip on why understanding all the information about medicine and statistics is so damn hard.
Chupacabra (a monster I'd never heard of before I started working here) are apparently attacking sheep in Honduras. Because there are no other predators out there that like to attack sheep.
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My three-year-old son is about to get very excited. He's a big fan of Daniel Loxton's Ankylosaur Attack, and now you can get Pterosaur Trouble! (Or, "Ptrouble.")
So there's going to be a book version of the TV version of the Bible. Sarah Posner:
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2 cent coins on Frasiers variation?
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2 cent coins on Frasiers variation?
What's up with the 2 cent coins glued on various points on Frasiers Variation on Table Mountain?
Hmm, you know what was a good idea. On some of the older routes at Table Mountian and Muizenberg they pasted on little metal tags that have the names of the climb punched into them. Now some might argue that this is defacing the rock, but it's out of the way and you really have to look for them to find them. No more searching for the right cairns or going up the wrong route.
They still paint the names and grades at the start of routes at some crags in Europe, They used this system for a while at Monteseel in Natal but then people decided to be all PC and eco friendly. Of course nowadays, not satisfied with mere paint at the bottom or two cent pieces, we mark routes with a nice clear line of machine bolts!!!
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1. What's been your favorite moment of the NCAA tournament?
|Clark Jones: When North Carolina made good use of seven All-Americans. #ornot
|Pat Tomasulo: Cutaways of a stoic John Stockton watching Gonzaga.
|Scott Bolohan: The 1940s. Go DePaul!
|John Dooley: That one time the officials got a call right. That was awesome.
|Angi Taylor: People thinking I care about their brackets. Really, it's as much fun as hearing about their fantasy lineups.
2. What's the best part of back-to-back Blackhawks games?
|Clark Jones: Not watching Nate Robinson shoot 8-for-41 from 3-point range.
|Pat Tomasulo: Not worrying about how to fill a sportscast for two days in a row.
|Scott Bolohan: The ice could get choppy so more Ice Crew action! Aw yeah, sexual objectification!
|John Dooley: Back-to-back excuses to drink.
|Angi Taylor: It means we're that much closer to the real hockey season -- aka baseball season.
3. Besides Corey Crawford, what other Hawk should change his style of play?
|Clark Jones: Marian Hossa. He's gotta learn how to hit first, or duck.
|Pat Tomasulo: I'd like to see Jamal Mayers in more shootouts.
|Scott Bolohan: Patrick Kane. He should be a little more selective.
|John Dooley: Dan "Gorilla Salad" Carcillo can change his style of play to "not horrible."
|Angi Taylor: Marian Hossa. He needs to actually play.
4. Why are the Cubs pitchers so confident?
|Clark Jones: Well, none of them have actually played in the major leagues.
|Pat Tomasulo: I don't even have a joke for this one. I genuinely want to know.
|Scott Bolohan: Toastmasters.
|John Dooley: They've been playing intrasquad games against Cubs hitters.
|Angi Taylor: Because they've been facing Double-A hitters all spring.
5. Why did a doctor call Robert Griffin III "superhuman"?
|Clark Jones: Because calling him something else already got Rob Parker fired.
|Pat Tomasulo: Because he wants more people to ask Derrick Rose why he's not back yet.
|Scott Bolohan: The doctor forgot his name.
|John Dooley: He's so good he makes you forget about his team's horribly insensitive name!
|Angi Taylor: Because if he were a point guard, he'd be back in the lineup already (hint hint, D-Rose).


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Alex Gordon and Eric Hosmer lead the Royals past the Orioles
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I've been through a number of printers year in and year out since certain models are no longer sold and as a consequence cartridges sky rocket in price and the only option you're left with is to upgrade to a better printer. Out of all of the printers I've had previously from lexmark to codak to an un familiar brand name, I've finally found one that I can rely on and I have come to find that larger ink cartridges are sold as well as the standard sized cartridges which is ideal as I end up draining the standard ones almost instantly because of my college work.
I've had no problems using this printer for a number of months now and I'm pleased with how easy it is to connect it to the house's wireless network so I don't have to carry my laptop through to the living room and plug it in each time I need to print something. If you lose the installation CD for the printer you can always search on the HP website for a free driver software download for the basic or advanced/full installation for the printer and I truly appreciate this because I am hopeless with looking after CD's and being able to find things when I need them the most, so there's always a back up plan.
The scanning quality is also really impressive, there are no blotchy marks like an old photo copier would produce - the images are that crisp that you can barely tell that it is a replica of what you have scanned. The scanner also acts as a quick photo copier without the need to do it through your computer, you can press copy and the printer will then scan and instantly print your work for you and there is also colour options in which you'd like to print things out for the copying option; either black and white or colour, - another great convenience!
I haven't experienced any paper jamming or anything being chewed up or printed wobbly as of yet, providing I've got a decent amount of ink left in the cartridges my images always look brilliant and I've only needed to do an alignment test once and that's it! Standard cartridges print around 30 - 40 colour and black and white pages off which isn't too bad if you manage to acquire them for an acceptable price, however the larger ones known as "XL" print much more than that and are often better value. Though in my experience I have found it harder to get hold of the XL one's but here's hoping that someone else has better luck with that part than I have!
I have no complaints whatsoever about this printer as it even looks sleek and attractive placed next to the tv and record player and looks like part of the decoration/furniture which is great as I hate seeing something that stands out like a sore thumb to the point where you want to just hide it in a corner or a cupboard. I guess you can say it has it's pride of place on the table top with the other gadgets because of it's convenience and appearance.
The price is even great, at the time I got this printer it averaged around £50 - £60 and this was only a couple of years ago so you might even find this cheaper now, so not only is it nice to look at and a reliable printer - you might just find yourself a bargain here.
I have owned many printer made by HP, and the F4580 is one of the best one's, even now after it has been out for years. With my other printer I have had, I found it annoying when using my laptop that I had to connect it using a cable ever time I wanted to print something. However, with this model, there is a built in function, which allows wi-fi printing, so there was no need for cables, and I could press print from where ever I was in the house. I paid just over £50 for it two years ago, and still use often, normally for home use, as it doesnt keep up to the printing speed which I require for my business.
It comes in a rather large box, and isnt the smallest of printers available, but it doesnt matter, you still save space on a desk, rather than having sperate device for printing, scanning and photocopying. You simply install the software (made by HP also), and you are up and running. When you first use it, there are a couple of printing test you need to carry out, and this step must be completed every time you add a new cartridge.
Ink is cheapish, other models from different brands do offer ink for cheaper, but you dont get the same quality as you do with the F4580. I definitely do recommend this all in one printer, is great. Thanks for reading.
This is not an entirely bad product. It always prints/scans/copies quickly and produces clear copies/print-outs. It's relatively small, so it can be placed nearly anywhere, and light, so it can be moved easily. It also has a nice design. If this was all it did, I would recommend this to anyone because on these points, it is very good. However, it consumes printer ink like no printer I have ever used. I am a uni student, so I am constantly printing out essays and revision notes and copying/scanning other documents. On top of this, it is the only printer in the house and so my parents also use it a fair amount. All of this printing has led to a bit of a nasty surprise: it goes through printer ink like crazy. Ink is expensive and it's annoying to keep having to buy it more often than I used to. But I guess this is my fault for buying a relatively cheap printer. It also has a wireless function so that you can print from other computers but it never seems to work and we've not been able to print things from my dad or mum's laptops. So, they have to send things to me to print.
Overall, a good printer but uses far too much ink. It was cheap and I suppose you get what you pay for.
Use - 4/5.
Value for money - 3/5.
Design - 5/5.
The HP Deskjet F4560 is an all-in-one printer, scanner and copier with wireless capabilities. When I purchased the printer it was the lowest priced wireless printer I could find, at less than £50. In most ways it is the same as any all-in-one that you could possibly buy. It prints quickly in colour (or black and white if you prefer), scanned images are of very high quality, and copying can be done both through a computer and using the buttons on the printer. It is not worth going into huge detail about these basic functions, as these days any printer can perform them admirally. There are a few points of note however.
As this is a low price printer there is no LCD display. This is not a huge issue for me as most of my printing is done though the computer, but if you want to print directly from a camera you may wish to look elsewhere. To add to that point - this printer is designed primarily for document printing. It will print your photos but they will merely look okay, as opposed to some of the brilliant photo-realisitic prints that some printers can produce.
While this printer is good value for money it will be very expensive to run, as are most HP printers. I purchase thirty-party ink cartridges, and buying two of these still costs more than the price of the printer. This is true of many printers though I believe that Kodak printers are better in this regard.
I mainly use this printer connected though a wire, however I have tried the wireless functionality and it works exactly as one would hope. If the printer is on and installed, Windows will see it as it would any other printer.
Overall this is a decent overall printer without any major issues, but if you are after a good photo printer, you may wish to look elsewhere.
This printer is great. It acts as a scanner and a photocopier (b&w or colour) and can photocopy several copies at a time.
The ink cartridges last a long time, especially when using draft printing. The draft setting is effective and suitable for handing is as a final copy for school, university or report work. The ink is also a reasonable price, in comparison with Epson or Canon for example.
When a better quality is required the printer is up to a good standard, for colour reports, magazine style and photos.
The printing time in draft is exceptionally fast.
The wireless on the printer is very helpful, as it work throughout the house and enables several laptops to be connected to the printer at once.
The software enables you to scan documents into jpeg or PDF and add several pages, which makes documents to look very professional.
A very good buy, very satisfactory.
I previously had an Epson all-in-one printer that cost me around £100 and lasted me about seven years. I really hated it becuase it used to jam all the time, so I was fairly relieved when it finally gave up the ghost, and I had a good excuse to replace it.
I am always keen to get value for money, so I did a lot of online research prior to purchase. I decided I did not want another Epson, but I did like the convenience of being able to photocopy and scan at home, so I did want another all-in-one. I didn't have a lot of money to spend so I decided to go for the HP F4580 which I got for around £35 from Tesco Direct in October 2010. Replacement cartridges are around £10 each. It appears that Tesco have now discontinued this particular model.
This is a wireless, all-in-one printer, which means that you can print to it from anywhere in your house (once the computer has been initally linked to it), you can scan documents and make photocopies. According to the specifications it weighs 4.5kg, and is 16cm high by 44cm wide.
As with all these things, it comes in a large box, well padded with lots of extra wires and bits inside. I collected mine from Tesco, and was shocked at the size of the box they gave me as they had put it inside another box! As is often the case with these items, there is a detailed instruction booklet as well as a quick start guide to get you going. One colour and one black ink cartridge were supplied, along with a usb wire, power cord and a set-up cd-rom.
Inital set-up was fairly easy. The guides had detailed pictures of the different elements of the printer to allow you to safely remove the packaging and tape that kept the sections safe in transit. It was easy to put in the new ink cartridges although you had to press pretty hard to get them in. The CD was easy to use and took you through set up. The USB cord had to be used alongside the CD but once it was set up on a printer, you could print wirelessly without it.
The first thing that struck me was that it was a lot lighter than my previous printer, I guess technology moves on quickly. Being black, it looks very sleek and smart. It easily fits on top of a chest of drawers, and the printout tray retracts for a tidy look when you are not using it. The controls are all placed on the top of the unit at the left hand side, and include the 'on' switch, selection of black or colour photocopying, scanning, and a stop button.
The scanner unit sits on the top and is accessed by lifting the lid. This part of the printer is well made and well padded to protect the scanner when it is not in use. When scanning, you have to use the USB cable as you need to save your scans into the computer. It scans quickly and saves automatically into a folder created on your computer called 'My scans' - scanned files are automatically saved as the date they were created. My only gripe about this element is that if you are scanning something a bit more bulky (say a book page) then the lid doesn't sit comfortably on top of it. Photocopying works the same way - except no need to attach your computer to the printer.
I no longer have a desktop pc in my home so I find it really useful that I don't have to go and hook up to the printer every time I want to print. As long as it is switched on, I am able to send documents to it. I've never had any trouble with the wireless signal in my home and it works well. You can set up as many computers as you like to the printer. Each computer then has a HP centre from which you can print test pages, check the ink levels, troubleshoot and change settings. Now and again it prompts you for an update which it does in the background.
One of the few downsides of this printer is the level of noise it makes. When you switch it on there is a lot of noise as the print cartridges make their way into place in preparation for use. When the printing starts it is quite noisy too. The paper sits in a tray at the base of the printer and comes out just above this. If you are printing more than one page it is useful to pull out the catcher otherwise it spills over onto the floor which is annoying if you are printing a longer document and need to keep your pages in order!
The printer is sold on the basis that it's good for both home and business use. I use it solely for personal use and the odd bit of uni work and it's fairly economical, but I think regular business users would be better off with something that used a bit less ink. I'm on my third black, and second colour cartridge since October so not a very high user but if I do a lot of printing at once, I notice a real dent in my ink levels.
The print quality is very good and I have had no problems with alignment or colour bleed. I have never printed photographs with it so I cannot comment on that.
Overall, I am happy with this printer. Fingers crossed, there have not yet been any 'printer jams' like I used to get every time I used my Epson. Apart from the noise, I have no complaints about this printer, and I would happily recommend it.
Thanks for taking the time to read my review which may appear on other sites.
What is it, what can it do?
The HP Deskjet F4560 All-In-One is a home all in one printer, it is designed to be used in business or at home (Although personally, I would disagree with that statement and say this really is probably for hobby businesses or home use). It is a wireless printer with scanning facilities.
The printer is small and does look quite professional and minimal, so doesn't take up much space, with its wireless capability it can be stored away from your computer too if storage space is an issue.
Why Did I buy it?
We didn't really choose this at all, it came with our computer as part of the in-store deal, so in many senses we weren't seduced by any promises of what it could or couldn't do, we wanted the computer and when doing the deal they threw in this all in one printer, some decent publishing software and a high quality mouse, having looked at reviews on this site and on Amazon, if we were buying simply a printer, I don't think this would have been the first one we would go for and will explain why further on.
What do you get for your money?
In the box you get the Deskjet printer plus an HP300 Black ink cartridge and tri-colour ink cartridge, also included is the USB cable to connect up to your PC, the software CD which can troubleshoot any problems and help in the set up process and the power supply leads. There is also a helpful reference guide to help with the initial set up of your printer, which also explains how to use all of the varying components of this all in one printer.
How does it look?
It is nice and compact, the dimensions are, Width 44cm, Depth 29.1cm, Height 16.2cm, it weighs around 4.5kg and is easily transportable and can sit on a fairly small desktop with your PC or further away, possibly on a shelf due to its depth. It is totally plack with a small discreet HP logo on the top of the printer, it has all of the functions and an electronic display on the top left of the printer, there are six function buttons including on, off, scan, print and cancel and displays showing which paper size is being used and how much printer cartridge remains for use. When the printer is being used the top can be lifted for scanning purposes to reveal a glass scanning section and the front panel can be pulled down to provide the feeding area for paper, it is simple and looks nice without trying to look too amazing, I like the understatement and the fact it doesn't take up half of my room like previous cheaper printers.
The Set Up:
I found setting up pretty easy, you simply fit the power lead to the machine and switch it on, at first I used the USB lead to connect to my PC and then used printer set up to set up the printer using the CD provided. Once this was done, I removed the USB lead and pressed the wireless button on my printer to connect to my PC, this was very little trouble and I've read Amazon reviews which claim this isn't possible. I'm no PC expert but found this was easy, simply by following the instructions and diagrams on the CD provided and in the booklet, we were set up within 20 minutes of receiving the PC and printing and scanning documents.
The Printer:
Printing is fairly simple you choose the document you wish to print and print, you open the front section of the printer and load paper, ensuring the printer is on and it prints, paper feeds in and out through the front of the printer so it comes out of the front too.
There is some HP smart web printing option which allows some fancy way of reducing printing to simply the things on a page you need, but we haven't read through this properly or tried it, it seems like a gimmick more than something truly useful, so I'm not going to try and blag that I know how this works, we've only used this printer for printing and scanning, in the simplest sense and printing is quick and easy.
The paper feed can hold up to 80 pieces of paper, and the printer generally prints a piece of paper in less than 6 seconds which is pretty quick.
It can print photos to decent quality, although we didn't realise you'd need special photo paper which is quite expensive so haven't really done this too often.
The Copier:
We've not used it as we've had no need and didn't want to waste cartridge space (you do get paranoid about printing anything due to the cost), so I won't review this other than saying it seems an easy enough process simply feeding in paper, then copying the papers you want through the simple press of a button.
The Scanner:
Simple and easy to use again, lift the top lid of the scanner and place a document face down on there, you can't do multiple feeds, only one document at a time, and this can be laborious if you have hundreds but it can scan to photo quality very well and the quality isn't in doubt. I have found scanning is slow and painful, but always successful, it is nice having the option and for under £50 I think it would be churlish for people to expect too much from this product. Items are scanned to PDF and this can take time to then format them, but once we worked out how to really use the thing, it has been useful, but not particularly quick to use.
How has it worked out for you?
Being honest, we might have bought this for the price as it looks nice and sounds amazing, however I don't think we'd buy it again, on the plus side, its small, compact, looks nice and is easy to use. One the other side of the coin, the scanning option is laborious and the printing whilst quick and easy is fairly expensive. We can't complain as it was a freebie with the computer, but the printer cartridges really don't last long, our first two lasted 3 months each with about 150 pages use for colour and black and white, the printer does tell you as the cartridge is getting lower, but this is depressing as cartridges cost £20 each to replace so replacing both cartridges once is akin to buying a new printer.
Apparently the Deskjet is energy star qualified and is good for the environment, but we only switch it on for short periods when using it, so are not sure quite how much store we hold in this.
One word of warning, some of the things the printer has such as the HP Photo print gadget (No idea what it is, we've never even seen it when printing), are only compatible with Windows Vista, so please discuss with a PC professional before buying this if you have a different system, to ensure it will work properly.
How Much does it cost?
This package costs £42 on Amazon, it was marked as £89.99 18 months ago when we bought it, so prices have declined steadily. I would say its nice enough and looks good, but when you take into account the cost of replacing cartridges, it isn't perhaps the best value out there. HP offer advice on their cartridges and have special ones which apparently print more pages, but we have only bought standard cartridges so far and feel that they were excessively priced and made this product seem less attractive to us. Were cartridges cheaper I'd give this a 4 out of 5, but due to the price of replacing them I'm going to give it a 3 as they are packaged together.
I would say this is a reasonable printer which looks fine and is pretty cheap, we've found it easy to set up and use, printing is easy, although cartridges are expensive, scanning is easy but time consuming and a lot of the extras aren't relevant to families who only want to print documents or scan on photos and we really haven't even used any of them. The cartridge price is the big downer about this product, everything else is fairly positive, if you can get cheaper brand compatible cartridges then definitely buy this product, otherwise, be aware everytime you need to replace them, you are paying the equivalent price of this printer again.
Having started a University degree I felt it essential to purchase a printer and working over the house it had to be a wireless one. Upon researching the reviews seem to state that the printer was of god quality long lasting etc etc. I chose one from Tesco at £44.97 (this has now been discontinued)
Upon receiving my printer I was at first rather happy with my purchase as it was easy to set up (although the CD used to set up took around an hour) However the printer began to lose my faith when it ran out of ink after around a month, although I do print regularly it seemed to run out of ink quite quickly.
Upon replacing genuine HP ink cartridges within the printer I was told to re-align the cartridge by plugging the USB cable and placing the sheet that printed out (using yet more ink) if you turn the printer off before re-aligning the cartridge when switching on the sheet will print again.
Apart from the quick usage of ink and the annoying re-alignment of cartridges the printer is a fairly useful and good looking one with a small buttons. Offering a printer, scanner and photocopying facilities it is useful for those who have a family or students. I would not recommend this for small businesses due to the high replacement of ink.
I first bought the HP Deskjet F4580 All-in-One about a year ago for a very reasonable price of £37.99 from Tesco. I am not a very technically minded person, but even I found the installation process very easy, it came with a sheet of paper with step by step instructions and when I inserted the disk it again was very simple and took around 25-30 minutes to complete the process.
This is a wireless printer, which I find always works well and whilst setting it up it found my wireless router easily. The print outs are of good quality and the replacement ink cartages' are also of very good value.
This being an all in one printer it also scans and photo copies as well, the photo copier works exactly the same as a normal, standard photocopier you simply place the paper writing side down underneath the lift up lid and press the print button on the side, it couldn't be easier. Now as for scanning you place your paper in the machine in the same way, but there is no scan button you need to use the soft ware which was installed when installing the printer. It is easy to use and not a problem even for some one as cluless on computers as myself.
The quality of the photocopier and the scanner are both very good. I have never had a problem with this very simple and easy to use all in one printer.
This review is also on ciao under applechuff
This printer was a real godsend for me as I am currently studying to be a teacher. This means lots of printing, copying and scanning of lesson plans and classroom materials. I had previously been beavering away at lunchtimes, using the school printer which was slow and rather poor quality. With the HP Deskjet F4580 All-in-One I can now perform all these tasks at home, and save my lunchtimes for some last minute marking!
The printer is really easy to set up and install with a straight forward installation CD that guides you through the process. The good thing about this printer is that you can print wirelessly from your laptop, so gone are the days of having to get up and connect your laptop to the printer.
The printer is also relatively fast, and can cope with about 30 pages per minute, really handy if you are printing multiple copies of the same document.
The image quality of the printer and the scanner / copier is great. It delivers clear and crisp images with no smudging - what more could you ask for.
I sniped this printer for £45.00 which I thought was a real bargain. It is functional, economic and pretty sleek looking too. I would wholeheartedly recommend this printer, it's been a real life saver for me!
I love this printer! Just purcahsed it for the bargain price of £49.97 from my local tesco, used a £10 off voucher I had so got it for £39.97, even more of a bargain! The quality of the print on these printers is fabulous, and so easy to set up. Took about 15 minutes per laptop to install the cd and then make the printer wireless was so easy! Found our wireless router no problem. The best part about this printer which I love is, on my mobile phone, you can download an app called HP Iprint Photo, this allows me to connect my phone wirelessly to the printer, and print images from my mobile! Works on iphone, ipod touch, and android based phones. Fantastic feature, so easy to use, and Looks lovely. It is now tucked away upstairs and we can print from our laptops downstairs with ease. The inks are cheap too compared to some that you see, all in all, a definate must buy for anyone wanting a wireless printer, this is one of the cheapest on the market anywhere and definately one of the best for frequent home use!
The wife and I both have laptops that connect wirelessly to the internet but it has always annoyed us that we had to get up, take the laptop upstairs and plug it in to our old USB printer to print things off. Lazy, I know but we'd both said how much better it'd be if we could just press and our document magically print out on the printer upstairs.
However, I'd always seen wireless printers as being expensive (£100+) and couldn't really justify the expense to save a few steps upstairs. That was until we used the last of our current printer's ink cartridges and before ordering some more, I decided to have a quick look online at how much wireless all-in-one printers were.
What I found was incredibly pleasing and surprising - all-in-one printers had become very affordable with the price dropping to around £50. A quick surf later and I came across this beauty, the HP Deskjet F4580 on HotUKDeals for less than £40! I immediately took out my credit card and (after going through Quidco) ordered my new printer from the Dixons website.
A couple of days later the printer arrived and I eagerly opened the box and began the install. The printer comes with a nice easy-to-understand set-up sheet that gives you a step-by-step guide on how to install the printer on your computer - it's a pretty easy tasks that involves you plugging the printer into your computer (via the supplied USB lead) and installing some software. The printer then copies your wireless network settings from your computer and the installation is complete! Easy-peasy lemon-squeezy! :)
After installing, it's a simple case of clicking the print button and then fetching your document from the printer tray.
The print quality is fairly impressive and it is pretty quick and responsive to button presses - it's only a few seconds after you press print that you'll hear the F4580 power-up and your document begin to print.
This printer has the added advantage that it can also scan and photocopy your documents - all to a fairly good quality level. Photocopies are handled by placing your desired document face down under the flap and pressing the copy button on the printer's beautifully-finished sleek black plastic shell.
Scans are a little different with you having to initiate the scan from the HP software that was installed when you first installed the printer. The software will give you a quick pre-scan of your document, with a fuller scan taken when you press the scan button.
All-in-all, we're very impressed with our HP wireless printer and think it was an absolute steel for less than £40! The only downside so far is that it sometimes doesn't respond when you click print - although a quick re-boot of the wireless router usually fixes this with little fuss.
I got this printer for a bargain price of £45 and it is worth every penny. This is the first wireless printer i've had and its makes things so much easier. The setup was very straight forward, just a case of inputting the cd and following through each screen, it did however take some time as i have 1 pc and 2 laptops and you have to install it individually on every device and it takes about 20 minutes for each one. Since purchasing i have had no problems or issues with it and its very simple and straight foward to use. You can use it to scan, print, and copy and most of these functions can be done wirelessly. For the price i paid the printer looks very smart and its quite a nice size for an all-in-one, as its roughly the same size as a normal printer. The ink also isnt that expensive compared to other printers on the market, black ink is approx £16 and that prints around 420 sheets which i think is quite good value for money. It also has an energy star rating so its supposed to be cheaper to run. With the printer you also get some printing software, specifically for if you want to print photos, your able to install a drag and drop option on your desktop, so you just drag the photo there and it prints automatically, which can be a handy feature. I dont have any complaints or anything negative to say about this printer, i would suggest it is a definate buy for anyone looking for a cheap, reliable wireless printer.
The HP Deskjet F4580 all in one is a great solution for people looking for an affordable wireless printer. This machine is the same size as a standard all in one device and, as you would expect, comes with the ability to print, copy and scan (although you need to use the USB cable to scan).
The Price:
I've been looking for a wireless printer for a while and have toyed with paying up to £150 for one but you really dont need to. Provided you're only using it for day to day printing and the odd photo or two this is perfect. It was £49.98 on Tesco Direct, at the time they had a 'free delivery' promotion on which included free premium delivery (specified time slots). I also had a promotion code for 10% off printers so this cost me around £45 delivered! Can't go wrong for that.
Set up
There is a big manual in the box with lots of languages in it but its really of very little use. The CD is what you want to use. It has very easy to understand step-by-step instructions on unpacking and setting up the printer and establishing the wireless connection as well. The set up seemed to take a very long time for me (around 30 mins, normally if you know what you're doing you can do it in 5-10 mins) but that said it was all up and running perfectly first time.
It looks, well like a printer, to be honest. Its not the most stylish printer on the market (go for Canon if you want style) but then its by no means is it ugly either.
Its pretty user friendly, the scanner panel is, as you would expect, on the top. There is a control panel on the left side of the top of the printer. There are separate buttons for scanning, copying settings (including re-sizing) and a separate button for black and white and colour copying.
Print quality
The print quality is good. Again provided this is for the average home/home office this is a perfect solution. If you're really into photography the deskjet probably isnt for you, i'd go for the more expensive 'photosmart' series.
All in all a great little wireless printer. For me, this is a great by from a top brand.


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Warrington Wolves' unbeaten run increased to six with victory over Hull KR at the KC Lightstream Stadium in Super League Round 16.
Wolves broke the deadlock through Gene Ormsby's try after a frustrating first half an hour before Stefan Ratchford and Joel Monaghan added scores in quick succession.
Graeme Horne replied after the interval, but tries for Ben Evans, Ryan Atkins and another for Monaghan sealed Wolves' win.
Mick Weyman, who helped himself to two tries the last time these sides met, forced his way over the Wolves line after Hull had won possession from Bridge's fumble, but the powerful prop was well held up by a Warrington defence led by Ben Evans in the second minute.
Bridge's kick rebounded off Jamie Langley on 10 minutes but Matty Russell gathered and set Micky Higham free with the hooker feeding Joel Monaghan, who was stopped 15 metres short.
Bridge picked up from dummy half and weaved his way towards the line, but from Wolves' play-the-ball the pass went loose with Ben Currie and Monaghan looking to collect before being pulled up for the fourth scrum of the evening.
On the quarter of an hour mark Bridge gathered another loose ball as Hull failed to make the most of a penalty and fed Ormsby.
Ormsby lacked the legs to outpace the covering Robins defence and in an attempt to find a team mate threw a wild pass that was collected by the hosts.
Ryan Atkins thought he had opened the scoring two minutes later when he beat Greg Eden to Simon Grix's kick, but the full back's slight touch saw the pair exchange knock-ons and resulted in a Warrington scrum.
With 20 minutes played Wayne Ulugia was penalised and Bridge choose to kick for touch. Wolves worked the ball through the hands of Ratchford, Grix and Atkins before Rhys Evans was stopped short in the left corner.
Bridge's temper flared as a scrappy half came to a head after he was tackled by Travis Burns and as the sides rushed in to support their respective team mates, Currie, who had an altercation with Ulugia moments earlier, found himself on the floor.
It was Wolves though who continued to look the more likely to score, but with 12 minutes of the half remaining Ben Evans was held up over the line from Higham's pass.
The home fans were up in arms again moments later when Liam Salter thought he had broken free only to be pulled back for an infringement. From there Wolves worked it left but Atkins was again held up.
However, Tony Smith's side had the ball back in hand on 32 minutes and when Bridge sent a looping pass wide to Ormsby the winger took off and acrobatically flung himself towards the corner to touchdown one-handed for his eighth try of the season. Bridge converted from a tight angle.
Wolves extended their lead with three minutes of the half remaining when Grix broke from his own half and showed impressive pace and footwork to beat four would-be-tacklers before finding the supporting Ratchford to go between the posts. Bridge added the extras.
Youngster Joe Philbin got his first taste of Super League action when Smith let the highly-rated forward loose with two minutes of the first half to play.
Bridge was the architect as Wolves added gloss to what was a hard-fought first half when the half back found Monaghan for his 17th try of the season before the hooter and then converted.
The hosts' first chance after the interval came from Kris Keating's neat grubber, slipping the ball beneath the Wolves line and finding Ade Gardner.
The Saints-loanee thought he had got the necessary pressure to warrant a reply for Craig Sandercock's side, but referee Ben Thaler judged the winger to have knocked forward in the process.
Sarcastic applause range out from Thaler's next decision, to award Hull KR the put in at a scrum when Grix parried forward in an intercept, the home crowd making their frustration with the official clear.
The Robins were able to work Weyman into a position to drive at the Wolves line, but the Australian, in the Hull side after a successful appeal on a two-match ban, was held up and lost possession.
However, with 17 minutes of the second half played Rovers did get their reply when Horner hit the line at an angle and was able to reach out to narrow the deficit. Burns failed to add the extras.
And they were close to reducing it further two minutes later when Burns' lay-off released Eden and the full back broke free and looked to go himself, but the recovering Bridge made an important tackle.
Wolves gifted Rovers another opportunity on 63 minutes when Rhys Evans was called back for obstruction when crossing Bridge inside his own 20.
As the hosts attempted to keep the pressure on Wolves their injury problems looked to take another blow as Jamie Langley collided with Higham and was forced off.
Rovers' attack came to an end when Bridge charged down and the ball came off his legs, the half back gathered and scooted into the opposition half before Gardner tackled on the cover.
But with eight minutes remaining Wolves made sure of the victory when Ratchford first dummied his way through one tackle before kicking the ball over the defence, only for Eden to knock on Rovers turned to Thaler expecting the official to pull the game back.
Thaler waved play on and Ben Evans, making up one of two sets of twins facing each other in a Super League game for the first time, tackled Eden with his feet and scooped up to go unchallenged between the sticks, leaving Bridge a simple conversion.
Minutes later and Wolves compounded the hosts' misery when Atkins finished off a move to the right of the posts from closer range for his 10th of the season. Bridge was unable to add to his perfect record.
There was still time for Monaghan to cross for his second of the evening from an interception as the Rovers fans flooded out of the KC Lightstream Stadium, Bridge converted.


text: First Look Readies to Help Local Organizations January 3, 2008 12:00 AM The public gets its first glimpse of each year's Chicago Auto Show at First Look for Charity, the black-tie benevolent event held the evening before the doors officially open. The event benefits 18 area charities and routinely raises more than $2.5 million, making it among Chicago's most successful single-day fund-raisers. That's no little feat in a city where black-tie benefits are going on weekly throughout the year. At the coming First Look, three lucky attendees will be handed the keys to 2008 vehicles: a Hyundai Veracruz, Toyota Corolla and Scion xD. Benefactors can direct their ticket purchases to benefit all of the participating charities equally, or, if they have an affinity for a particular organization or more, to those charities specifically. Tickets are $225 each and can be purchased at www.ChicagoAutoShow.com or 708-237-6444. Participating charities, in alphabetical order, are Advocate Hope Children's Hospital; Autism Speaks; Boys & Girls Clubs of Chicago; Campagna Academy; Cancer Health Alliance of Metropolitan Chicago; Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Chicago; and Catholic Charities, Diocese of Joliet. Also, Children's Memorial Hospital; Clearbrook; The Cradle Foundation; Franciscan Community Benefit Services; Ray Graham Association for People with Disabilities; Ronald McDonald House Charities; Misericordia Heart of Mercy; National Multiple Sclerosis Society; Respiratory Health Association of Metropolitan Chicago; Spina Bifida Association of Illinois; and St. Coletta's Foundation of Illinois. Back to News


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SANTA CRUZ - A white or silver Chevrolet HHR was the getaway car in the shooting and robbery of a UC Santa Cruz student this week, not a Chrysler PT Cruiser, according to new surveillance footage.
Santa Cruz Deputy Police Chief Steve Clark said Thursday that police obtained the footage of the suspected Chevrolet HHR during a recovery of the woman's backpack.
The trail of clues started Tuesday night when a school maintenance worker found the UCSC student's backpack in a trash bin near Benito Avenue and Water Street in Santa Cruz, Clark said.
The worker did not know the backpack belonged to the girl, but he thought it was suspicious and gave it to police.
Police contacted a nearby business and received surveillance that showed a white or silver Chevrolet HHR near the trash bin shortly after Monday night's robbery.
The four-door Chevrolet HHR looks similar to a Chrysler PT Cruiser that the victim had described.
Chevrolet HRR image source - Wikipedia
"It shows a car associated with leaving the backpack," Clark said. Police declined to say if any suspects were visible in the video.
Police wanted the public to know the updated car description in case it is spotted. Police said the backpack found in the trash bin did not contain a laptop and wallet that had been inside it.
Authorities processed the backpack for evidence, Clark said.
Police have been trying to find the gunman since the near fatal robbery Monday night.
About 7:30 p.m. Monday, a 21-year-old UCSC student was waiting at a bus stop on Natural Bridges Drive when she was shot in the head and robbed of her backpack. She said she saw a white PT Cruiser pass her twice and park before the robbery.
A surgeon removed a bullet from her head Monday night, but she left a hospital Wednesday and is expected to recover fully.
The suspect was described as a light-skinned man who appeared about 5 feet 7 inches tall with a medium build. Police released a composite sketch of the man this week.
Police are continue to investigate whether Wednesday night's robbery of the Food Bin on Mission Street had connections to the robbery of the UCSC student.
Santa Cruz police ask anyone with information to call investigations at 831-420-5820, the anonymous tip line at 831-420-5995 or leave a tip at www.santacruzpolice.com or by the mobile application at http://m.santacruzpolice.com.
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