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Challenge is a good word for the Stephen Sondheim/John Weidman musical "Assassins."
Finding the right tone and presentation for the highly controversial subject matter is a challenge for a director. Performing Sondheim's notoriously difficult score is a challenge for both the singers and the orchestra. And attending a musical about nine people who assassinated, or attempted to kill, U.S. presidents is a challenge for the audience.
So how well does MiraCosta College rise to the challenge in its production, now playing through Sunday in Oceanside? Quite well in most cases. Director Eric Bishop's production is both disturbing and darkly funny, just as Sondheim and Weidman intended; the dialogue is riveting; the look of the show is stark and vivid; the physical similarity between the actors and the real-life assassins is often startling; and the 17-member cast is excellent, with many standout performances.
The only disappointment is the show's musical element. "Assassins" is one of Sondheim's least hummable scores, and the singers and orchestra had a hard time finding their timing, balance and synchronization on opening night last weekend. Many lyrics were rushed or inaudible, and the clashing of voices and instruments in some songs made them almost unlistenable. This weekend's performances should be considerably tighter.
"Assassins" is designed to shock. There are multiple shootings, a suicide, a hanging and an electrocution, and the opening number features a sideshow barker luring passers-by to buy a gun and kill a president.
Wandering through this timeless carnival are rebel actor John Wilkes Booth (the "pioneer" of presidential assassinations, with his 1965 slaying of Abraham Lincoln); the self-aggrandizing lawyer Charles Guiteau (who shot James Garfield in the back in 1881); socialist activist Leon Czolgosz (who shot William McKinley at point-blank range at a 1901 fair); immigrant factory worker Giuseppe Zangara (who failed in his 1933 attempt to shoot Franklin D. Roosevelt); unemployed tire salesman Sam Byck (who intended to fly a hijacked jetliner into Richard Nixon's White House in 1974 but died in the attempt); Charles Manson devotee Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme (whose gun failed to fire in a 1975 attempt on Gerald Ford's life in Sacramento); flaky housewife-turned-political radical Sarah Jane Moore (who missed while shooting at Ford just two weeks after Fromme's try); and John Hinckley Jr. (whose obsession with film star Jodie Foster led him to shoot Ronald Reagan in 1981).
The eccentricities and motivations of each would-be assassin is examined in detail, from Guiteau's bizarre belief that he was owed a presidential appointment, to Fromme's hope that killing Ford would win Manson's favor; to Booth's heroic idea that he was avenging the South; to Byck's bizarre tape recordings that America had failed him.
While mental illness or a desperate desire for fame played a big role in most cases, there was also the shared belief that the American dream had not materialized for any of these killers, and -- as the musical's signature song goes -- "Everybody Has a Right (to their dreams)."
The musical mixes fact and fiction with a surreal sense of time and space. The assassins skip across decades to commiserate with each other over beers and fried chicken on their problems and society's inability to fix them. They sing folk odes to their guns and they dream rhapsodically of their future place in history.
The most famous presidential assassin, the seriously conflicted Lee Harvey Oswald, is intentionally mute until the second act, when Booth finds him on the sixth floor of the Texas Book Depository in 1963 and convinces him that shooting John F. Kennedy will make not just him, but all of his fellow assassins, eternally notorious. The gut-churning scene, accompanied by projected images from the presidential motorcade in Dallas, is the most harrowing in the play, and a follow-up song, "Something Just Broke," recalls the feeling most Americans had the instant they learned about Kennedy's shooting.
Standouts in the superb cast are the ebullient Virginia Gregg as "Squeaky" Fromme; Juan Castaneda, who gives a manic, John Belushi-like performance as the ranting psychopath Byck; KD Sperling, who's unpredictable as the loopy, attention-starved Sarah Jane Moore; and Jesse Brodie, who brings a sinister Southern charm to the idealistic Booth.
Max Myers has a burning, laserlike intensity as Czolgosz; Gedaly Guberek is very convincing as the Italian immigrant Zangara; and Tom Brault brings much-needed levity as the goofy, egomaniacal Guiteau. Ryan Johnson is boyish and brooding as Hinckley. And Kyle Lucy somehow manages to make Oswald sympathetic. Tom Hatfield laces the show together as the narrating Balladeer; and Allie Smith is strong and wise as socialist organizer Emma Goldman (for whom Czolgosz is said to have killed McKinley).
The show's well-coached chorus includes Gerilyn Brault, Hayley Honeycutt, Carl Schmitts, Leslie Tammone and Mikael Thomas.
Kudos to costumer Jennifer Monroe and makeup designer Larry Jorgensen for their uncanny re-creations of these famed assassins, particularly the clothes and hairstyles of Booth, Hinckley, Guiteau and Oswald.
The musical is just over 90 minutes in length, but it's wisely split with an intermission, which is a good idea with such difficult subject matter. The musical has very strong language and mature themes and is not suited for small children, but its probing examination of the American psyche is well worth a look by anyone interested in provocative theater.
"Assassins" is not a feel-good musical, and it's not the type of show that will have you running out to buy the unmelodic soundtrack when you leave, but it is fascinating in its bold, crackling examination of this reviled group of sociopaths.


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John Gilman (left) and Bob Heide (right) in Greenwich Village recently, with a George Segal sculpture.
I've known Bob Heide and John Gilman since the late 1960s, when Bob was most active as a playwright, and was on the scene at Warhol's Factory on East 47th Street, known as "the silver Factory," where Warhol churned out a torrent of paintings, films and sculptures, which have now become some of the most influential work created in the second half of the 20th century.
Bob and I still keep in touch on a regular basis, and I was thrilled when I heard that Bob would be giving a lecture at The New School, in New York, talking about his work with Warhol and his entourage during the artist's most creative period. Now, The New School has posted the entire lecture online, and so I'm pleased to be able to bring it to you — it's the authentic testimony of someone who was there. This lecture took place on a very cold night in Manhattan, on January 31, 2012. Despite the weather, the auditorium was, as you will see, filled to capacity.
As the New School's website notes, "Andy Warhol's fame grew during his years in New York City, and his unique persona and career were shaped in large part by his association with the downtown arts scene in and around Greenwich Village. Playwright Robert Heide, who wrote some of Warhol's screenplays, and Thomas Kiedrowski, the author of Andy Warhol's New York City, discuss Warhol's involvement with Greenwich Village and its artistic and literary denizens before, during, and after his rise to fame in the art world." It's a fascinating look into Warhol's creative process, by someone who really was on the scene during the era, making Bob's oral history of the period absolutely invaluable.
A party at the Silver Factory in the mid 1960s.
Click here, or on the image above, to see Bob's entire lecture, some 77 minutes long.
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The 32nd Annual Daytime Emmys will be broadcast live from Radio City Music Hall and televised on the CBS network on Friday, May 20, 2005. This year, in an elaborate turn of events, dick clark productions has recruited not one, not two, but three daytime megastars -- Eric Braeden (Victor, Y&R), Deidre Hall (Marlena, DOOL) and Susan Lucci (Erica) to open the show.
"Eric, Deidre and Susan are daytime drama legends and we're honored to have them kick off the festivities," said Al Schwartz, producer, dick clark productions. "Every year we try to do something different and exciting and this year is no exception. It's going to be a spectacular evening."
The following have been announced as presenters:
All My Children's Rebecca Budig (Greenlee), Justin Bruenig (Jamie) and David Canary (Adam/Stuart)
As the World Turns' Mark Collier (Mike), Terri Colombino (Katie), Trent Dawson (Henry), Grayson McCouch (Dusty), Michael Park (Jack) and Maura West (Carly)
Bold and the Beautiful's Lorenzo Lamas (Hector)
Days of our Lives' Kirstian ALfonso (Hope), Drake Hogestyn (John), Peter Reckell (Bo) and Alison Sweeney (Sami)
General Hospital's Rick Hearst (Ric) and Kelly Monaco(Sam)
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Passions' Justin Hartley (Fox), Lindsay Hartley (Theresa) and McKenzie Westmore (Sheridan)
The Young and the Restless' Peter Bergman (Jack), Sharon Case (Sharon), Shemar Moore(Malcolm) and Victoria Rowell (Dru).
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CLEARLAKE -- A parolee at-large was captured after a late-night chase on Monday.
At 11:37 p.m. Clearlake Police Department (CPD) Det. Travis Lenz and CPD Officer Franklin were conducting an unrelated call for service in the McDonalds' parking lot in Clearlake when Lenz observed a man sitting in a parked 2002 Ford Escape. Lenz identified the man as Clearlake resident, Brody Pirtle, 61.
Pirtle was a parolee at-large with an active warrant for his arrest.
Lenz allegedly approached Pirtle at the driver's side window of the vehicle and Lenz and Franklin ordered Pirtle to exit the vehicle.
Pirtle reportedly failed to follow the commands and started the vehicle. Lenz attempted to stop Pirtle from placing the vehicle into gear and a brief struggle occurred through the window. Pirtle was able to get the vehicle into gear and fled the scene through the McDonalds parking lot.
Lenz and Franklin returned to their patrol vehicle and pursued Pirtle through the City of Clearlake. Pirtle reportedly evaded police for approximately two miles in the city.
Pirtle reached speeds of 65 mph on residential streets in willful disregard for public safety.
The vehicle pursuit ended when Pirtle's vehicle reached the end of a dead end street. Pirtle got out and ran from the vehicle and was later apprehended and placed under arrest for assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer, felony evading in a vehicle, resisting arrest and a parole violation.
Because of injuries sustained during the apprehension and prior medical injuries, Pirtle was cited and released to medical staff for treatment.
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Shares of Tri Pointe Homes Inc. jumped more than 12 percent Thursday after the Irvine homebuilder raised $232 million in an initial public offering.
With investors flocking to the hot homebuilding sector, Tri Pointe priced its IPO above expectations, selling 13.7 million shares at $17 apiece. Shares closed at $19.05 in their first day of trading on the New York Stock Exchange.
The company became the first U.S. homebuilder to go public in more than eight years. Analysts said Tri Pointe benefited from a nascent recovery in the housing market, which has inflated the stocks of many homebuilders.
"This is the beginning of the housing recovery, so there's a large runway for homebuilders to grow," said Tiffany Ng, an analyst for IPO research firm Renaissance Capital. "There's enthusiasm for homebuilding and the housing market in general. This is definitely a good time for Tri Pointe Homes to make its offering."
The homebuilding industry has been on fire in recent months, as rising home prices and a dwindling supply of new properties have pushed up demand for new construction. Homebuilders have ranked among the best-performing stocks, including PulteGroup Inc., which is up 178 percent in the last year, and Standard Pacific Corp., which has jumped 128 percent.
Tri Pointe, founded in 2009, builds homes primarily in California and plans to open a community in Colorado later this year.
Stephen East, senior managing director and head of the homebuilding research team for ISI Group, said the California housing market is particularly strong. "The rent-vs.-buy equation is very much skewed toward buying," he said. "That's gotten a lot of people into the market."
Investor Barry Sternlicht, the founder of Starwood Capital Group, is Tri Pointe's chairman and largest shareholder. Following the IPO, Sternlicht owns about 45 percent of Tri Pointe.
The homebuilder expects net proceeds of about $156 million from the IPO. Tri Pointe officials, who did not return calls requesting comment, said in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission that they plan to use the cash to acquire land for development and new home construction.
Tri Pointe became the first homebuilder to go public since December 2004, when Comstock Homebuilding Cos. offered its stock. Taylor Morrison Home Corp., a homebuilder in Scottsdale, Ariz., has announced plans to go public sometime this year.
While there is investor enthusiasm for builders' stock, East questioned whether the four-year-old Tri Pointe is ready to deal with the pressure from stockholders for steady and strong performance. According to regulatory filings, the company lost $4.6 million in 2011 and another $3.9 million in the first nine months of 2012.
"They're only a couple years old. They've never made any money," East said. "They're not seasoned and they (may) make some missteps early on. If they do … the stock would get hit pretty hard. But there's a lot of interest in Tri Pointe. The market's ready for them, so they're taking it."
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Professor Ngo-Ngijol Banoum carries a heavy burden of teaching and service in the Department of African & African American Studies and the Interdisciplinary Program in Women's Studies. Under her directorship, the Women's Studies Program at Lehman remains a vibrant center for the exchange of ideas, a rewarding opportunity for students to learn more about themselves and their society, and a friendly place to hang out. Professor Banoum organizes a full slate of events, including an annual open house, scholarly presentations by Lehman faculty and distinguished guest speakers, a student-faculty read-in in honor of Black History Month, panel discussions to celebrate Hispanic Heritage Month, Women's History Month, Asian-Pacific Heritage, and more.
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WE now have the finalists for the 20th Wiltshire Business of the Year awards – seen as the most prestigious of their kind in the south west.
Between now and the awards dinner on April 4 the judges will be scanning the details of the finalists , before coming to their decision.
The awards have been developed by Newsquest Wiltshire to reward and celebrate the many dynamic and innovative businesses in Wiltshire and they have become the business recognition platform that elevates outstanding organisations above the rest.
The awards dinner will be at Center Parcs, Longleat.
Places are rapidly filling up but there are still a few tables available for local businesses. To book a table contact Ursula Gawthorn, Wiltshire Business of the Year Awards 2013, 100 Victoria Road, Swindon, Wiltshire SN1 3BE. Call 01793 501874 or email ugawthorn @newswilts.co.uk.
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" Brand: Mc Vitie's "
McVities is the first brand that springs to mind when thinking about biscuits, and I always like tucking into a nice simple McVities Digestive Biscuit... well, whenever I can, really. These are perfect for snacking on or dunking into tea, and despite their simplicity they do taste delicious.
You can buy a 250g pack for £0.89 from Tesco, which is not too bad. I have seen the larger pack sizes on promotion at supermarkets at £1 quite frequently which I think is a good deal so I do try to look out for these when they are on special offer as often as I can.Yes these may be a bit more expensive than you would usually find supermarkets' own brand digestive biscuits for, but then this is a trusted and reputable brand and I do usually like to splash out for these instead because they are worth it and generally do taste nicer.
These are packaged in a fairly thin plastic wrap with an eye catching red and blue design that you can instantly recognise, with a big McVities logo on the front and some basic information. Overall the packaging is quite nice and aesthetically pleasing. This plastic wrap is fairly easy to peel open at either end with your fingers unlike some biscuit packages which you almost need a pair of scissors to get open! As I don't usually finish a pack in a go, I am able to use a peg to seal the gap made in order to maintain freshness.
The digestives have a nice wholesome biscuity taste and though these biscuits are sweet enough to be considered a sugary treat, I find that the balance of sugar put in is just right; it is not to sugary. Eating too much can result in your mouth feeling rather dry which is why I like to dunk mine into tea before eating, but really, it is all down to personal preference. With stores' own labelled digestive biscuits I sometimes find that they taste a bit too salty but this is not an issue here. They have quite a nice crunchy texture, but fortunately they are not too bitty like you can find with some cheaper brands of digestives.
The biscuits themselves look quite plain but aesthetically pleasing, being round and flat and smooth with writing pressed into each digestive.
Obviously it is not good to consume too much biscuits and snacks on a daily basis, however, I find that these are rather filling, so a few of these round biscuits should be enough for one go. McVities also sells chocolate covered versions of these digestives (the Dark Chocolate covered ones are my favourite) which can be a nice, sweeter treat.
Altogether, this is a lovely pack of biscuits which is available for quite a good price and these are suitable for all occasions. They make a lovely snack and taste delicious and all in all I think that these digestives give you value for money. I would thoroughly recommend them with 5 out of 5 stars.
In these horribly boring days of austerity, our family grocery budget has been steadily..ahem...eaten away, so we buy less, buy more offers, and buy a lot more supermarket own brand goods.
One of the few areas I was not willing to compromise was in my biscuit of choice, the grand McVitie's Digestive.
I tried, I really did, but the own brand digestives just don't taste the same; I've tried own brand digestives from several big supermarkets, and there is just no contest. I think it is mostly the superior taste, but I had these biscuits with my tea going back to my childhood, so there may be a little nostalgia blended in with the wholemeal. Incidentally, was it just me that played the game of 'biscuit russian roulette', where you dunked your digestive in and waited as long as you dared before pulling it out the cup of tea? The amount of times an emergency tea spoon was called for....
but I digress.
What separates these from cheaper alternatives? I honestly don't know; very distinctive red packaging for one, always eye-catching. Possibly the type of grain used, the quality of grain, but whatever it is, there is just the right amount of sweetness in the biscuit. Cheaper biscuits tend to be too sweet, which is great for a custard creme, not for a digestive. McVitie's also make the same size digestives they always have, nice and large, whereas cheaper ones tend to be smaller; yes, I really do notice these things!
In recent years, the amount of saturated fat has been reduced in the biscuit to make it healthier (because we eat biscuits to be healthy of course) at the cost of taste to some, but must say I barely noticed a difference. Still has that unique rich, oaty taste for me...
I was going to mention the time I attempted to bake my own digestives, but decided better of it; lets just say I'll be pooping to the shops to get my McVitie's for a long time to come!
McVitie's Digestives
I must admit to having a soft spot for McVities as you can always rely on them for top quality products. The digestive is the quintessential biscuit for dunking in tea and is a national treasure in the United Kingdom.
I have many memories of McVities Digestives, including visits to my Grandparent's house and nibbling on them when I had been ill with a cold.
A Little Bit of History
Digestives are a sweet meal biscuit and sometimes go by that name and were originally known as 'Wheaten' biscuits due to the ingredients. The reason they are known as digestives alludes to the fact that I was given them to nibble on as a child when ill and not able to keep much food down. They were originally believed to contain antacid properties due to the sodium bicarbonate that was used in the making process.
They have always been known as a healthy biscuit as a lot of bakers at McVities and other makers of digestives would remove starch from the flour before it was mixed with other ingredients.
A look back in history will tell you that digestives have been around for quite some time with adverts still on record or existing from 'Huntley & Palmers back in the eighteen fifties. They were known as 'brown meal digestive biscuits' or 'brown sweet meal biscuits'. This was because after a culling process where the thicker more lumpy bran was removed, the less coarse bran that remained was the brown meal. It was this brown meal bran that contained the slight sweetness that we still associate with digestives today.
In 1890 after numerous tries, a Scottish man by the name of John Montgomerie was granted a patent for the manufacture of digestive biscuits and the fact that they had digestive properties was used in his advertising campaign.
McVities are owned by 'United Biscuits. The name is taken from the original sellers of the biscuit, 'McVitie & Price Ltd', who were established in nineteen thirty in Edinburgh, Scotland.
The original factory in Scotland was burned to the ground in a fire but rebuilt and operated until nineteen ten, when it moved to Harlsden in England. Another factory was built in nineteen seventeen in Manchester. The company still had strong Scottish links with Edinburgh bakery giants Simon Henderson and sons working with them from the nineteen twenties. In nineteen forty-eight they joined forces with MacFarlane Lang and Company, once again keeping their Scottish roots, and became known as the United Biscuits Group.
The digestive was the first biscuit produced by McVities and the first ever digestive to go full scale on the market. It was actually created by a relative nobody in terms of the trade and the company; a young lad, just finished his apprenticeship in eighteen ninety-two, who was named Alexander Grant. It became famous because of the rumour of its healing properties against indigestion.
The chocolate digestive would be dreamed up much later in nineteen twenty-five.
In two thousand and two, McVities would be rebranded as 'McV' but this was frowned upon by some of the bigwigs and although it lasted three years it was changed back to McVities. The famous logo would be restyled in two thousand and seven.
The brand is sold all over the world and last year it made the bold leap of selling in Japan to further heighten its already wealthy profits.
Prince William and Kate Middleton requested that McVities make their wedding came from McVities Rich Tea biscuits for their wedding reception. McVities agreed and made the cake from one thousand, seven hundred biscuits and seventeen kilos of chocolate.
Digestives are made up of coarse brown wheat flour, sugar, malt extract, wholemeal, raising agents (Tartaric acid, Malic acid and Sodium Bicarbonate), salt, vegetable oil, skimmed milk, dried whey, oatmeal and Datem, which is an emulsifier. In the UK we add glucose or corn syrup to sweeten the biscuit a little more; in the United States they are more prone to using normal sugar to sweeten the biscuit. One single digestive biscuit holds around seventy calories but the US versions are likely to be higher. This is also true of the biscuits which are made en masse or of a lesser quality than McVitie.
Who and When
Digestives are well known as a compliment to a cup of tea or coffee. They are a tick biscuit, which makes them good for dunking as they do not break as easily as some of the thinner biscuits on the market.
You can also use a digestive as a cracker. They are great with cheese or jam or any number of spreads such as Philadelphia cheese. I am a big fan of peanut butter on digestives. They are also a very popular choice for making cheese cakes and are crumbled up to make the base.
A friend once told me that they like to eat them with a glass of orange juice. It may sound strange but I tried it and it is actually quite nice.
Digestives also come in a variation of milk and dark chocolate with the underside of the biscuit liberally coated. In the last few years white chocolate has been added to the range. I have yet to try these but would love to. There are also some more diverse ranges that include chocolate chip, mint and orange flavoured chocolate.
We like our digestives in the UK and the milk chocolate version sells thirty five million pounds worth every year. That is seventy one million people buying McVitie or a digestive equivalent every year. Statistics show that this means a digestive is being consumed every at the rate of fifty-two every second.
Final Thoughts
I must admit that I do have a soft spot for McVities as they do make a quality biscuit. Digestives are probably frowned upon as boring these days but they are still one of the best biscuits to dunk into your cup of tea if you are that way inclined and unlike many other biscuits are not filled with too many e-numbers and boat loads of sugar. The fact that you can use them as a sweet cracker and spread stuff on them is also very appealing and puts them head and shoulders above most biscuits or at least biscuits in the plain variety.
Overall they are a definite winner for me.
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I do love a biccy with my hot cuppa and I find that biscuits without chocolate are often preferable, especially when I have a hot cuppa in the morning and I feel my sweet tooth has not quite 'woken up'!
My husband recently brought in a couple of packets of biscuits, one of which was a 300g packet of Digestives from the well known McVities brand.
The packaging is fairly uninspiring, I must admit. Comprising of a red-coloured package, the usual McVities branding appears along the top of the package in the usual colours of blue and yellow. It is fair to say that the package has a slightly 'retro' look to it, but I feel it is quite eye-catching thanks to the bold and bright colours used to be fair.
The package of biscuits that I have is a rather petite 300g in size and this cost us £1.19, according to the price that is printed along the edge of the package. I can't say that I find this price to be particularly good value for money, particularly when this is compared to other brands of digestive biscuit that I buy regularly. In saying that however, I would say that the McVities brand is a rather premium brand in my opinion.
The biscuits themselves are a circular shape and are quite flat. They are a medium brown colour and have some little holes dotted over the top surface. The McVities brand name is embossed in the centre of each biscuit too, like a little trademark of sorts.
The biscuits have a delicious 'crunch' to them and this is noticeable even when one is snapped in half, which I often do to enable my biscuit to fit into my large coffee or tea cup easily. The crunch (or snap, if you prefer) is quite audible and does give the impression of the biscuit being wonderfully crisp.
That is not to say that the biscuits are brittle at all, nor are they so robust that you have to really bite down on their hard surface. Instead, the consistency is rather more soft than this, being reminiscent of a shortcake biscuit perhaps, and I find this is extremely enjoyable, with the delicious consistency making the biscuits seem rather morish!
The taste is quite sweet, although not overly so that may make the digestive biscuits seem sickly or overly sweet. Instead, the sweetness sits alongside a slightly malt-like savoury flavour, being similar perhaps to a malt-flavoured drink? Whatever this flavour is, it is extremely delicious and in particular, when the biscuits are enjoyed alongside a hot cup of tea I find them to be extremely tasty and quite delicious.
I do regularly enjoy 'dunking' my biscuit into my hot cuppa and I find the McVities Digestives are more than capable of enduring this practice. They will often disintegrate if I have chosen to dunk my biscuit several times, but this is something I have found is often the case with other biscuits, so no points off for this from me.
Another way I regularly enjoy eating my digestive biscuits is to have them spread with a small scraping of fresh butter. I find this makes the biscuits slightly more savoury and I do this with any brand of digestive biscuits that I have in my larder at home. I have found the McVities biscuits cope well with having a little butter spread over its surface and they are not overly fragile which would probably see them snapping in two during the spreading process.
The nutritional information on the side of the packaging informs me that each biscuit contains 71 kcal and 3.1g of fat which seems quite high, but of course most biscuits are rich in calories and fat content. On the plus side, I can see from the packaging that the biscuits contain "70% wheat & wholemeal" and they contain "No artificial colours or flavours" as well as "No hydrogenated vegetable oil."
The biscuits are suitable for vegetarians, but they do contain milk and gluten so consumers with certain food allergies would need to give these a miss, unfortunately!
The package of McVities Digestive biscuits is available to buy from all good grocery stores, as well as most supermarkets such as Tesco and Asda. You can expect to pay around £1.20 for a 500g package of the biscuits, which offers better value than the smaller package that was purchased from my local corner shop. In addition, the biscuits are often subject to promotional offers and the cost of the 500g pack as @ the time of writing (November 2012) is only £1 in Tesco.
I would recommend the McVities Digestive biscuits and have thoroughly enjoyed eating them with my hot cuppa in recent weeks. I have nothing negative to report and feel they deserve full marks in the product rating score, as a result.
Why did I end up eating these since I am more interested in Chocolate Biscuits? Well it was when we were at the inlaws. They aren't so interested in Chocolate Biscuits as what we are, so their Biscuit tin consisits on mainly these, Rich Tea and other more plain Biscuits.
These come in a 400g pack and cost around £1. The wife often buys Digestive Biscuits to do some home baking, but she says the Cheaper ones are just as good for that purpose as they much taste the same as these ones. I've had the cheaper ones, but I would say these are a bit nicer.
You get about 20 Biscuits in the pack. They are a bit crumbly at the edges when you first take them out the pack but this is only the first few that you take out. I think it is just because the wrapper is quite tight to them. Probably to stop them breaking in the pack.
These seem a bit larger in size compared to the Chocolate ones. They are just as thick as well although there is not the Chocolate layer on top.
These crumbled easily when you were eating them and I was surprised that I quite liked them. They are quite simple, but that was nice. They taste nice and malted and with a dash of Salt as wel. They were surprisingly sweet tasting too.
Yes, I probably wouldn't go out and buy a pack as they wouldn't hold my interest that much, but I can and will eat the odd one when offered to me.
When I was back at work recently for a few weeks I was delighted to see the "team" I work in had commandeered an old Roses chocolates tin and were using it as the unofficial 'Team Biscuit Tin'. I was even more pleased to see the home of this tin was the edge of my desk! Easy biscuit access- just the thing you need when you are stressing about a work item or trying to fill a hunger gap before lunch or in the afternoon.
On the whole I found the tin managed to keep itself generally well stocked with biscuits. McVities Digestives were a popular feature. I had not bought or eaten Digestive biscuits since I was about 10, but I knew I liked them so was more than willing to grab a digestive whilst I pondered over what to do with a problem piece of work.
I think my memory of plain Digestive biscuits had warped over the years as I remembered these being paler, smoother and less grainy. I'm sure McVities have had the same recipe for many many years as these are almost a national institution of a biscuit and I think there would have been an uproar if they had changed them. Maybe I am confusing these with Rich Tea. Although I know I prefer Digestives to Rich Tea biscuits.
Their ingredients are:
Wheat flour (54%), vegetable oil, wholemeal wheat flour (16%), sugar, partially inverted sugar syrup, raising agents, salt and dried skimmed milk.
To me, vegetable oil and sugar syrup do not sound that healthy and I always try not to have too many biscuits as I know they are moreish and can easily make you pile on a few extra pounds of weight when you are not looking! I have been caught out in the past and gained quite a bit of weight from over zealous biscuit chomping!
I do not drink hot drinks so I have been unable to do the standard "dunk test". I apologise to any dooyooers who rely upon the outcome of the Dunk Test in reviews...
The digestive biscuit tastes grainy and very wholemeal. They smell a little like golden syrup and are not too hard to bite, nor are they soft like shortbread can be. They are the biscuit equivalent of brown bread- (if you compare how brown granary bread tastes in comparison to white bread this is similar to comparing a Rich Tea and a Digestive biscuit with the Digestive being the brown bread).
Per biscuit: 70 calories, 9.3g carbohydrates (2.5g sugar), 3.2g fat (0.3g saturates), 0.5g fibre.
This is less sugar than I expected actually, but the calories are a little worrying- as who can just have ONE biscuit? They are therefore a moreish snack, to be saved for a biscuit emergency and not to be eaten constantly whilst at work unless you need to or would like to put some pounds on!
Classic from McVities.
Digestives are the type of biscuit that I don't always but but sometimes all you want is just a nice plain biscuit that really hits the spot and this is when I reach for a McVities Digestive.
So what is a chocolate digestive? It is a semi-sweet biscuit made with coarse brown wheat flour. It is this aspect of the biscuit which gives it it's rough texture and flavour but that also makes it in my opinion quite moorish. I find the biscuits are quite crumbly too and often when you bite into them little crumbs always end up on your lap. The popular way to eat one of these biscuits is by dunking it in your tea and they disintegrate quite quickly due to their consistency and make the biscuit nice and soggy and sweet. The sweet flavor is quite interesting; it's not sweet like a candy is but more a spicy type sweet. Nevertheless, I would say it's a bit of an acquired taste as I know many people who hate these biscuits.
Of course, sometimes it's nice to have them with chocolate on as well. In the UK the annual sales of chocolate digestives total about £35 million, oh my gosh!!! According to a website I read this means the each year 7 billion packets are sold (not all McVities but I'm sure they have a good portion of the market) and each second 51 biscuits are consumed. However, it is nice to just have the plain version once in a while.
McVities actually produced the first chocolate digestive in 1925 and now you can often find them with toppings such as caramel, orange and dark chocolate.
The digestive itself was actually produced as far back as 1799 and was called a digestive because in the beginning bicarbonate of soda was one of the ingredients and it was meant to aid digestion.
The McVities digestive is about 7cm in diameter and in my opinion the best variety in this biscuit range. They have McVitie's written on the top of the biscuit. They are quite cheap as well which is nice. A 500g packet is just 84 pence and this contains probably about 40 biscuits.
The only problem with these biscuits is that they have quite a lot of calories. Each biscuit has 70 calories and 3.2g of fat, ahh, but they now have the lowest ever saturated fat and are 70% wheat and wholemeal which is good for you.
There's not much that's better in life than a nice cup of tea and a few biscuits.
Mcvities Digestives are a biscuit that I often regard as somewhat boring. No chocolate, there's nothing really that interesting about them really is there? And there are a lot of fancier biscuits out there on the market. I go through long spells of not eating these, but everytime I do have one, I wonder why I stopped eating them in the first place.
These are one meaty biscuit if you ask me. Each biscuit is quite large, so annoyingly I have to bite a bit off to dip them in my mug but I'm willing to overlook this on the grounds that they taste so nice.
The biscuits have a wheaty/oaty texture and taste quite sweet and creamy. They are easy to bite into athough they are quite crumbly and they can be a little dry when eaten on their own.
Digestives are light brown in colour and each one has the McVities logo etched into it with a wheat motif.
The good news is that they now contain the lowest amount of saturated fat they ever have and even so, McVities claim they taste the same, and I have to say that to me, they do.
Each biscuit contains 70 calories which is pretty good as you really don't have to eat many of these to stave off that mid-meal hunger. A single biscuit also contains 9.3g of carbohydrate of which 2.5g are sugars and 3.2g of fat but only 0,3g of which are saturated.
They can be found in supermarkets and most shops and cost around a pound for a packet depending on where you buy them.
Not bad at all.
I love biccies and the other day when my house mate came home with these I was delighted as I have to admit that out of all the biscuits I've ever tried I'm rather faithful to a plain old digestive one's and in a weird way find them rather comforting!
The Packaging:
Red, dark blue and bright yellow cylinder shaped and plastic. On two sides of the packet I'm told what they are and who they are by of course and shown a picture on the biscuits. Other information given on the pack includes the size of the pack being stated, ingredients are listed, a full nutritional chart is shown and contact details for Mcvities are stated. Nice enough easy to open packet this is though you can't reseal the packet up very easily so do have a biscuit barrel at the ready if your not a piggy like me and end up eating the entire packet and would like to save any!
The Biscuits:
Large round and reasonably thick on the top of the biscuit there is a picture of some wheat ingrained into it and I'm told that it is Mcvities 'Original'. The underside of the biscuit is scored with little lines and the smell of it is sort of baked with a slight smell of sweetness to it.
The taste of this biscuit is quite simply great! Crumbly and crunchy with a slight taste of malt to it, it has a creamy taste as it melts in the mouth and I appreciate the sweetness of this being really natural and not too heavy at all and not one bit greasy in the slightest.
Stored well they will stay fresh for about 3-4 days and basically these are yummy. I could moan that they are a bit flaky to handle and always scum a mug/cup up if dunking them however they drink liquid and it takes a bit of dunking to get them to cave in, which is good for me as I really enjoy a good dunking session!
Tasty biscuits that really do beat the oppositional offerings. Full of quality, nicely malted I can't resist them though try... I do!
Nutritional Information Per Biscuit:
Energy 70 Kcal
of which Sugars:2.5g
Fat: 3.2g
of which Saturates: 0.3g
Fibre: 0.5g
equivalent as Salt:0.2g
Digestives 500g - 78p available in all good supermarkets etc.
I used to think digestive biscuits were the blandest thing known to humankind. I much preferred Rich Tea. When I was a kid, my granny, you see, would always give us Rich Tea with apple and strawberry jam when we visited. Absolutely delicious!
On the other hand, there was a family friend who we used to visit and the only biscuits she ever seemed to offer her guests were plain digestives. Compared to my granny's rich tea, these were awful.
As you get older, your mum no longer drags you round to her friends' houses as often, but one day as a teenager, I offered, well, was roped into going to this lady's house to tidy up her garden.
Inevitably, the time for afternoon tea came around, and yes, you guessed it, out came the digetives. But hang on! There was a twist! Being the hard working lad that I was I deserved a little extra. There on the nicely laid out table were some daintily sliced pieces of cheese.
Too late! She's already put a plateful of digestive biscuits, under my nose WITH CHEESE ON!
I was horrified. Digetive biscuits AND cheese. Cheese goes on sandwiches, or crackers, or macaroni, said my teenage conscience.
As I was on the cusp of becoming a man, I had no other choice but to be a man and swallow the biscuits and cheese.
I haven't looked back since!
Since that day, I cannot get enough of biscuits and cheese. I will pop in front of me a couple of digestives and a selection of cheeses at any opportunity I can.
It is fair to say that McVities have to be the Queen of biscuits when it comes to cheese (The King being Hovis). I am sure those that shop at Harrod's, and Fortnum and Mason, will tell me otherwise, so feel free, I am always up for a biccy and cheese experience.
So I haven't really said too much about the biscuits themselves. I still maintain, they are rather bland on their own, though my adult palate will cope with them. I actually now ponder on whether these, or rich tea make the best dunkers.
But thanks to our family friend for introducing me to the concept of cheese and biscuits.
I was never really a huge fan of biscuits until I had children. Up until that point I'd go for a packet of crisps or a peice of chocolate over a biscuit any day. There used to be a biscuit club in my old work but I never joined and never felt the urge to indulge when everyone else dipped in at coffee time. When my first baby was born my life changed in every single way and I found myself spending more and more time at baby & toddler groups and round at friends houses who also had little ones.
It was then that I developed a real love and appreciation of a good biscuit with a cup of tea or coffee. Now I love a chocolate biscuit and that would always be my first choice from the biscuit barrel but to be honest there aren't any that I really dislike. One biscuit that I have never really picked however is a plain digestive. I just didn't see the appeal and would never have chosen one when there are others on offer.
This morning however I went to my normal toddler group and biscuit supplies were running a little low. All that was one offer was McVitities Digestives and I certainly wasn't going to go without so I helped myself to one of these old traditional favourites.
As I said, I wasn't expecting much but blimey I was really impressed. I dunked it, as i believe you always should and this so called boring biscuit tasted blooming marvelous. It tasted gorgeous with my cuppa... not to sweet and had just the right consistancy to complement my drink beautifully. It was a real suprise and I almost felt annoyed that I had let this little gem pass me by for so many years. In the future I would definately have one of these again and I may even invest in a packet for my own biscuit barrel.
A 500g pack of McVities digestives costs 83p from Tescos
My Specialist Subject - Cakes and Biscuits.
Some very clever people find it so easy to trot off a few thousand words all about the latest best selling books or the biggest blockbuster to hit the big screen since `Gone with the Wind` but my forte is far less complicated, I am quite an expert on all the things in life that are bound to pile on the excess pounds.
It doesn't help matters because I live quite close to an extraordinary little discount store that sells all of these goodies at vastly reduced prices.
Let me just give you a couple of examples - three Lyons jam and cream Swiss rolls for £1, a decent sized box of McVities Masterpieces ( posh chocolate biscuits) for £1 and three average sized packets of McVities Plain digestive biscuits for £1.
When the odds are stacked against you like that it is hard to resist temptation, so by the time I have baked and shopped at the discount store my cup overfloweth.( to say the very least!)
A little about McVities.
United biscuits came together as a company in 1948 and the company have incorporated more and more smaller businesses to make them the giant company that they are today.
McVities are just one of the brand names manufactured by United Biscuits. I paid a visit to their comprehensive website and I was delighted to see that United Biscuits are working towards Environmental Sustainability. United Biscuits like many large companies are trying to cut down on waste, to transport their goods in an environmentally friendly way, to use as little packaging as is humanly possible, to ensure that their carbon emissions and energy usage is pared, to use as little water as they possibly can and to source their ingredients responsibly.
What I think about the Humble Digestive Biscuit.
McVities digestives may be a humble and quite ordinary little biscuit that many could walk past without thinking twice but I feel that they are very underrated.
In the past I have sampled lots of brands of digestive biscuit and none have really ever lived up to the ones baked by McVities.
I am very fond of the Hovis digestive biscuits ( The ones that are shaped like a little house) but they are baked to a very different recipe. The Hovis digestive biscuits are closer in texture, the McVities digestives break easily but the Hovis digestives are quite firm and that is why I prefer to enjoy the Hovis digestives with a slice of good hard cheddar cheese.
I would willingly offer any visitor a McVities digestive along with their cuppa and if you are looking for a quick and filling snack then you need look no further.
McVities digestive biscuits are not a beautiful biscuit, the plain round wheaty looking digestive biscuit was definitely not first in the queue when good looks were handed out but what they lack in looks they make up for in taste.
I think that you need two or three biscuits to satisfy mediocre hunger pangs. If I am feeling decidedly peckish then I eat my digestive biscuits without dunking them, I feel that they are far more filling that way.
The McVities digestive is a decent sized plain biscuit, the golden coloured biscuit crumbles as you try to break it and they have a definite `nutty` taste which I feel doesn't seem to be there in other brands. McVities digestives are the master of dunkers but make sure that you only dip the biscuit into the hot tea for a few seconds unless you want to drink your biscuit!
The golden digestive biscuits seep up the hot tea and the `nutty` flavour is irresistible, it would be so very easy to get completely carried away and go on a `dunking marathon`.Some shoppers seem to prefer McVities Hob Nobs for dunking but I find that the coarse texture seems to annoy rather than relax, if digestive biscuits disappeared off of the shelves then I would go in search of the second best dunker , the Rich Tea - another superb plain biscuit that is also very underrated.
General Information.
McVities have added no artificial colours or flavourings and they contain very little salt. The digestive biscuits are a very good source of fibre too.
They contain no hydrogenated fat but they do contain milk and gluten.
Vegetarians can happily munch away on the McVities digestive biscuits.
The ingredients are pretty honest and simple, the recipe consists of wheat flour, wholemeal, sugar, skimmed milk, sugar syrup and some raising agents.
One digestive biscuit contains 70 calories, considering that the biscuits are a reasonable size then I think that is acceptable.
McVities Digestive Biscuit Recipes.
Digestive biscuits make a good base for a dessert and if you go to the Channel 4 recipe site then you will find the most mouthwatering delicious recipe for Chocolate slices. A mixture of chocolate, syrup, cocoa and coarsely crushed digestive biscuits all mixed together and then chilled in the fridge.
My Thoughts.
Although I enjoy the McVities chocolate digestives, both milk and plain chocolate I feel that the plain Digestives can be enjoyed equally as much.
The semi-sweet digestives can be topped with all sorts of things, they are good with cream cheese or peanut butter and work well topped with jam and cream.
When digestive biscuits were first introduced many years ago they contained Sodium Bicarbonate which is widely used as an antacid and that is how the biscuits got their name.
We have many biscuits that are `timeless` and the digestive biscuit has to be classed as one of them.
Review on Ciao under user name Sarahjh.
Mcvities digestives are one of the most common biscuits on the market, and I think everyone has tried one of these at some point. I think most people love the taste of the original plain digestive, just a simple, yet very tasty biscuit that never lets you down.
The biscuit itself is a fairly big round circle of digestive biscuit. They are not too hard, but not too soft biscuits which makes them good for eating on their own, but even better for dunking as well. The taste of them is fairly sweet but not too much, and although they are fairly plain tasting compared to some biscuit's they do have a nice distinctive taste to them.
They come in a tube like pack and as they are all stacked on top of each other you get quite a lot in a pack. There about 70-80p in most stores however there usually on some kind of offers as well.
These are really great for dipping in cups of tea like I mentioned earlier. They are a great consistency too, they don't sog up too quickly so if you dip them in for a few seconds the biscuit turns soft but not too soggy, no too expensive for a pack of them either so a good around biscuit.
The brand is owned by United Biscuits. Oringinally MCVitie and Price Ltd.
Nutritional Information
Per 100g of Digestives:
Calories: 470
Protein: 7.2
Carbs: 62.7
Fat: 21.5
Fibre: 3.6
Brightly coloured red wrapper all the way around the stack of biscuits like a tube. Thin plasticy matterial, easy to rip open. Once open, I found it was hard to cover the biscuits to stop them going stale so might be useful to have a biscuit tin or tupperware box. Some navy blue logo print and an image of the biscuit on the front with a lot of text, promotional offer and a competition on the pack. Generally quite a busy look.
The original digestive taste, slightly sweet, dry and fibrous. I can imagine that these biscuits are more healthy than some others i.e. custard creams, though biscuits aren't particularity healthy anyway with a high amount of carbohydrate and fat. Crumble quite a lot and you are left with a lot of biscuit crumbs which can be annoying if you dont have a plate. You can't really avoid making a mess with crumbs. Nice texture dry and crumbly. Not moist at all.
Nutritional Pointers
They have no artificial flavours or colours which is a healthy point for a biscuit. Also they are made from 70% wheat and wholemeal goodness and have no hydrogenated vegetable oil. The packet also claims they are a good source of fibre.
There is a £5000 giveaway promotion at the moment run by McVities where you vota for your favourite biscuit and enter a competion on the wbsite. This offer exists until 11/10/09.
In my opinion, the best biscuit to dunk in a cup of tea as they dont fall off too easily if you dont leave it in there for too long but they absorb a good amount unlike rich tea. They are clearly the best type of digestive biscuit!
Digestives are a plain biscuit made by McVities.
The packet of regular Digestives have the same cylindrical plastic tube shape and have a tab to pull to open your biscuits easily. The two dominant colours of the pack is a distinctive red and a royal blue which is covered in light blue wheaty shapes along with a sign advertising that the biscuits are 70% wholemeal wheat so presumably that means healthy for you!
Each biscuit is a generous size and is a nice golden brown colour which is appealing to the eye, they have a wheaty taste you can definitely taste that wholemeal goodness they claim to have it is really unique and distinct flavour. They have quite a crumbly texture and are not light, a couple of these and you have definitely had enough!
Eating these on their own is not the best of experiences as they are quite plain and combine that with a thick and heavy texture can make your throat hurt. Dunking them in a cup of tea is a far more appealing option, they are also able to withstand a good dunking and won't fall away into your cup like other biscuits do!
These are quite handy biscuits to have around as they can be used in baking to make cheesecake bases and crunchy biscuit toppings to liven up your desserts as well as going nicely with a cup of tea during a snack break.
These biscuits are quite large but surprisingly the nutritional information is very similar to that of the chocolate variety so sacrificing the chocolate won't make a huge difference to your diet so you might want to stick with the chocolate ones especially if you have a sweet tooth. Overall they are still good, especially as dunkers as the chocolate ones melt into your drink and make it really sweet.
Per biscuit
Energy: 70Kcal
Protien: 1.1g
Carbohydrate: 9.3g
Of which sugars: 2.5g
Fat: 3.2g
Fibre: 0.5g


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Michigan Tech among Princeton Review's Best Colleges
July 27, 2009—
Michigan Tech has been recognized by The Princeton Review in its annual college guide, "The Best 371 Colleges," which was released Monday.
The University has again received high marks for fire safety, quality of life and "green" policies and procedures; students praised both academics and extracurricular activities.
The University is cited for its great athletic facilities and career services and for good town-gown relations. Michigan Tech's excellent academics are reflected in student comments: the University "offers a real hands-on learning experience, not only in the classroom but in life."
"The Best 371" Colleges" gave Tech high marks for fire safety, rating it 94 on a scale of 60 to 99. The University also earned a "green" rating of 75 for environmental policies and practices and an 83 "quality of life" rating.
The Princeton Review described the area's abundant outdoor recreation opportunities, including the University's Portage Lake Golf Course, and the school's rich social life. Students said spending weekends at school is no problem: "My college experience would have been so much different if I had gone home on the weekends. It's on the weekends that you get to know people and actually have fun or meet with a group to study," said one student.
"It's an honor to be recognized as one of the nation's best colleges," said Allison Carter, director of admissions. "Princeton Review's commentary reflects what our students experience at Michigan Tech: quality academics and quality of life."
The information in "The Best 371 Colleges" is based on The Princeton Review's survey of 122,000 students (about 325 per campus on average) attending the colleges in the book. Only about 15 percent of America's 2,500 four-year colleges and two Canadian colleges are included.
Michigan Technological University (www.mtu.edu) is a leading public research university developing new technologies and preparing students to create the future for a prosperous and sustainable world. Michigan Tech offers more than 120 undergraduate and graduate degree programs in engineering; forest resources; computing; technology; business; economics; natural, physical and environmental sciences; arts; humanities; and social sciences.


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Disappointing duo
Pacers, Timberwolves not living up to billing
Posted: Tuesday February 1, 2005 8:08PM; Updated: Tuesday February 1, 2005 8:31PM
Entering the 2004-05 season, I was bent on telling anyone who would listen all about how great the 2005 NBA Finals were going to be. And it usually went without saying that the two participants were going to be Indiana's Pacers and the mighty Minnesota Timberwolves. Actually, it usually went with saying -- I couldn't stop talking about it. Obviously, I don't fare too well in mixed company.
As it stands, following a Monday night loss at the hands of the 76ers, the Pacers are out of the playoff bracket. Following an embarrassing Sunday afternoon setback to a depleted Sacramento Kings squad, the Timberwolves are clinging on to that eighth seed in the West by mere percentage points. The Finals matchup probably isn't in the offing, and I'll never be invited back to those dinner parties.
The Pacers aren't making many excuses -- no point in that with 39 games left to play, though it hardly matters. The genesis of their problems is a stash of walking wounded that had them struggling to dress double figures even before the December melee in Auburn Hills. Minnesota's problems are multifold, and less tangible. There is an air of contentedness that pervades the being of too many of their core players, laughable considering the relative playoff mediocrity of their conference finals appearance last season.
Minnesota had a nice little stretch to round out the month of January, winning seven out of ten with a revamped starting lineup. Still, four of those wins came at home, and five came against teams well below the Timberwolves in the standings. And their hiccup against the Kings, who were missing Chris Webber and Peja Stojakovic, was telling. On paper, a group included Brad Miller, Mike Bibby and Cuttino Mobley actually seems to match up favorably against a Wolves team that seems increasingly reliant on Kevin Garnett and little else.
Though Wally Szczerbiak has flourished since coach Flip Saunders made him his sixth man, averaging 17.5 points on 54 percent from the floor, his high shooting percentage is more an indication of his ability to nail the shots he gets off. If the man could hoist it 20 times a game, he would. For now, the T'wolves are struggling with a second offensive option that can be taken out of the action for quarters at a time.
Indiana's second option finally got his stroke back Monday night in Philly, as Stephen Jackson scored 24 points on just 15 shots, but it has been an uneasy return to action. Understandably, the Pacers are a team without an identity. They struggle to defend as well as they've done in the past, they limp in transition on both ends of the floor, and their offensive spacing continually frustrates Jermaine O'Neal. When Rick Carlisle's plan is executed, O'Neal is given plenty of room to work, as evidenced by his 55-point explosion against Milwaukee last December. Too often, though, he is left to force a tough jumper amidst a sea of outstretched arms.
Too often, in fact, the entire Pacers team seems to enjoy forcing those sorts of shots. The freedom afforded the Pacer also-rans during the stretch of injury and suspensions allowed for an "anyone can be the hero" mindset that they seem incapable of tempering as the team's prime players return to action. Even Reggie Miller, who rightfully has been lauded in the press for his graceful adaptation to a lesser role, can't help but fire up a few ill-advised 25-footers in a halfcourt set. Though the 39-year old has turned in a solid season thus far, Reg is trying to do too much with the ball.
Like it or not, the spark that made Ron Artest so unpredictable was the very thing that made the Pacers so dangerous. His ability to dominate in different areas, attempting passes nobody expected him to try, or in taking shots nobody expected him to make, kept opponents on edge and the Pacers in every game. As good as O'Neal is as a do-everything forward who can score everywhere and nail his free throws, it is the very orthodox nature of his skill set that precludes the Pacers from surprising anyone.
The same flightiness evident in Artest's game drives Minnesota point man Sam Cassell as well. Sam has been in and out of the T'wolves' lineup all season, and hardly effective in the games he does play, due to equal parts injury and ennui. Timberwolves GM Kevin McHale has just over three weeks until the trading deadline to determine whether or not Cassell, who when healthy is as good a point guard as this game boasts, will ever remind us of the player who helped dominate the West last season alongside KG.
Both teams can still make this work. Though their flaws are many and well-publicized, entering the playoffs as a seventh or eighth seed is a far better option than tanking things and starting anew 2005-06. Each squad can subscribe to the same "anything can happen in a seven-game series" mantra that every playoff contender outside of San Antonio has been repeating to itself since the season tipped off. In fact, Saunders' offense has as good a chance as any of taking down the Spurs, who are easily playing the best defense of the Tim Duncan Era.
To do that, however, Indiana and Minnesota will have to win at least half of the games they have remaining, a task that has proven exceedingly difficult as the season lopes onward.
Those Spurs have won three straight, 12 of 16 in January, and Manu Ginobili has rounded into an exceptional player. Though we conceded that it was imperative that San Antonio re-sign Manu last summer, some questioned the length and breadth of a contract given to a 27-year old who had yet to average over 13 points per game in the NBA. Ginobili has responded by averaging 22.5 points on 61 percent shooting from the floor, alongside 2.5 steals and nearly four assists a game over the past six contests.
The Spurs play seven of their nine February games on the road, but buttressed by the All-Star break, we think they'll be just fine.
The overriding theme of this article is apparently how off I've been when it comes to crystal balling, and today's "Chump" is no exception. Alongside many others, I was tantalized by Darius Miles' brief showing of brilliance in the latter part of the 2003-04 season -- and knowing full well that he was in a contract year after being traded twice in 18 months. It was obviously a case of wanting the man to succeed and fulfill his potentially brilliant potential.
Well, so far the boy has failed. Miles has come through with stiflingly average play after the Trail Blazers re-signed him to a lucrative deal over the offseason, in spite of being given chance after chance by the Portland coaching staff. In turn, he engaged in a nasty row with coach Maurice Cheeks, whose credentials include an NBA title, four All-Star appearances and the apparent patience of a saint in dealing with one of sport's most embarrassing franchises.
Miles was suspended for two contests as a result, and you would have heard nary a peep from anyone involved with this league had the Trail Blazers suspended him for 10 times as many games.
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Detwiler sees success grow with playing time
PHILADELPHIA -- In his past five games entering Sunday, left-hander Ross Detwiler allowed one run in 10 1/3 innings and lowered his ERA to 3.89 from 4.97. The successful run started against the Brewers on June 24, when he pitched four innings in a 4-2 victory in 16 innings.
Detwiler still does not think he has a defined roll with the club, but he said he would be ready any time he was needed.
"I threw four innings there, and I throw a little more now; I kind of stayed sharp," Detwiler said. "It's one of these catch-22s where you are throwing better, you are going to throw more and you can stay sharp. But if you are not throwing that well, there are few spots you can be in."
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From a Kravitz column:
In Manning's 10 playoff losses in Indy, the Colts averaged just 14.2 points per game.
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From a Kravitz column:
In Manning's 10 playoff losses in Indy, the Colts averaged just 14.2 points per game.
Sure it's accurate. It's not accurate 100% of the time, but you gave a general statement so I responded with one. You've got to perform in the game at some level to win.
If a guy is putting up stats, and his team isn't winning, then shouldn't the focus be on the problems of the team? Sounds like the player with the stats is doing their part.
Peyton's biggest problem is and always will be him forcing throws. It could very easily be argued that it's more of a symptom of having so much pressure on your shoulders to make up the difference from where your team is lacking in other areas. The INTs are his fault, no question about it, but it's not like he's averaging 3per game while Brady and Company are averaging none. I don't think a 0.18 difference is all that statistically significant.
Again, I'm not saying that Peyton has performed better than those two. Clearly he hasn't. I'm saying does the difference in their play warrant the difference in opinion?
You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?
Let's compare Brady and Manning. I think their regular season successes are about even. Both have won a ton of games, both have won their division a billion times, and both have put up freakish stats. Brady from 2007-present has been putting up ridiculous statistics. Manning gets Brady on MVP's and obviously has higher career totals since he started playing three years earlier, but overall I think they are a wash in the regular season. Maybe slight edge to Manning since has played a bit longer and has the two extra MVPs.
The biggest difference between Brady and Manning is the playoff record. It's not necessarily the 11 losses that hurt Manning because anyone who is extremely successful for a long time and makes the playoffs every year is inevitably going to have postseason losses. You can't win the Super Bowl every year. What kills Manning are the eight one and dones and only nine wins in twelve postseason appearances. Four of those wins, almost half, occurred in one single postseason. Outside of the 06 miracle, Manning's postseason career has been filled with disappointment. Is it all his fault? Of course not. But as Kravitz said, the offense only averaged 14 points in his 10 Indy playoff losses. It's happened so many times that it really can't be ignored.
Brady only has two playoff home losses (compared to Manning's 5) and two one and dones. That's not to say that Brady is the sole reason for that, but who is the common denominator on the field for the Pats over the course of the last 12 years? It's Brady. He deserves a ton of credit for taking care of his home field in the playoffs.
The glaring difference between Manning and Brady in the playoff record is enough to tip the scales in Brady's favor since they are similar on most everything else, IMO.
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I'm not talking about records, I'm talking about statistics. Does the difference in statistics explain the difference in opinion on how each player plays during the postseason, not how each team performs.
That's why I listed the stats. I'm asking, what specifically in the game stats points out the difference in level of play between the two players, not between the two teams.
If the PM was the Pats QB, and put up the exact same numbers, do we think the record is exact same (meaning 9-11) or were the Pats teams good enough to absorb the statistical difference between the two, without any significant movement of the records?
At the end of the day, PM is 9-11 that's 100% fact. But the question is where in the statistics does PM fall short and where does TB/JM seperate themselves from the rest.
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And I wish Bob would have listed the actual scores of those games. I know there's that scoreless game against the Jets in there, and atleast one 3pt game against the Pats, and I'm thinking there's another 3pter in there as well. Assuming there's two, that would be six points in three games. That would mean there's 134pts out there to be divided among 7 games. The average for those other 7 is 19.14pts, which is a lot closer to average playoff scoring.
That also falls into the skewing category.
Either PM has some really good games in there that bump his stats up to the level of TB/JM, or they've laid some stinkers themselves, which we tend to forget about.
EDIT: I should have just looked at wiki.
TB averages 18pts in their losses.
38-34 (against PM)
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Just 18 points against Pitt, 17 against New Orleans, 16 against the Jets, and 17 against the Chargers four years ago. The only time Manning lost an Indy playoff game while putting up over 20 points was the 07 game against the Chargers when we lost 28-24.
Sorry dude - Manning was terrible during that Super Bowl run of 2006 (with the exception of the 2nd half against NE). He was mediocre in the Super Bowl and flat out stunk the place up against Baltimore! (15-30 170yds and 2 INT's - only scored 5 fg's and not a single offensive TD). If you consider that great we have much different ideas of what a QB is supposed to do.
You can't throw for 350 yards and 3 touchdowns every game. That was a smashmouth game in cold weather against an elite defense. Manning managed the game smart and didn't do anything stupid. The context of the interceptions are important. When they are basically as good as punts in a smashmouth game, they aren't that big of a deal. We beat Baltimore at their own game and Manning managed a smart game.
In four posts Troy went from aruging that wins are what matters, and the PM is a stat monger while losing, to criticizing PM for not putting up stats in wins.
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PM would have won several Superbowls here in Indy if he had always played like he did in that Baltimore game. Guy was just a beast of a player. I've always thought of it as one of his finer games.
Seriously - I think the traditional stats for documenting QB play are maybe the least helpful group of stats in all of sports. Are you really going to tell me Peyton was better in that one game against Kansas City where we didn't punt (as an example) than he was against Baltimore that night? Because if so then, yeah, we're far apart on this.
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15-30 (no offensive touchdowns and 2 INT's) = flat out stinks
Anyone who is not a Manning apologist agreed that was a pathetic performance.
The context was this = we won because we had a HOF fg kicker who bailed out our QB who stunk up the field that day for the second week in a row.
Passing yards without points = stat mongering
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I guess I didn't realize that the only important or crucial throws are all touchdowns. I've been corrected.
The earlier posts are referring to Peyton not putting points on the board in playoff losses (as documented by Kravitz)
The later posts are specifically pointing the Baltimore game alone.
Eight "one and done's" while averaging 14.2 pts per game in 11 loses. Yea, that's the greatest QB that ever played. I am amazed the Ravens even showed up Saturday due to their "fear" of the greatest clutch QB of all-time
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If you judge crucial or important throws on the number of touchdown throws, or points in general, then sure, but that's not how crucial or important throws are judged by most spectators.
Do people forget how good the Ravens were that year, and how well they played in that game? Their defense was the points and yards leader, and they were all over the field that day. Honestly I think 9 times out of 10 no quarterback or NFL offense would be up to playing a defense as great as they were that night. Just a special performance.
Even the performance against NE in the AFC championship--as great as it was, you could tell that the air had sort of been let out of NE during our rally. They were kinda out of gas. Playing Baltimore was like walking facefirst into a chainsaw the entire 60 minutes.
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Not only that, but this has nothing to do with what was said.
Last edited by Since86; 01-15-2013 at 03:55 PM.
Speaking of the Indy years, Peyton's productivity seem to best best in a dome and best in mild weather. Most QBs at like that (Brady's numbers are best in domes even though they're road games) but PM seems more so.
In the playoffs you seldom get any mild weather on the road, and at some point unless you're a dome team and a #1 seed you have to get it done outside and on the road. I's like to see Peyton's dome numbers regular season vs. postseason- I'd bet that they are more similar than are his outdoor game numbers, regular season vs. postseason.
So my guess, not running the numbers, is that you just get tougher conditions for PM to perform, more often, and against better teams in the playoffs. I don't think it's playoff pressure, it's just how weather affects a precise timing-based offense. To be honest, the bigger drop-off in performance in the postseason seemed to be guys like Marvin Harrison, again, just my eyeball guesstimate, but somebody could get the numbers.
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Packing your baby into a pram and heading out for a walk is a great way to get yourself fit, beat the blues and get some fresh air. There are some great dedicated walking tracks that are just perfect for prams (they're nice and wide, with little to no stairs!) so we've rounded up five of the best in Victoria.
This 3.8km walk winds around the beautiful Botanic Gardens and is a great pram walk - when you walk downhill on the Anderson Street Hill. The surface of the Tan is bitumen on the Anderson Street Hill, but you'll need decent wheels for the regular gravel surface of the main track. Take in the views of the gardens and the river, homes and cafes as you walk around in a clockwise direction. For more information, click here.
Top tip: There are markers every 50 metres. Stop and do squats at every marker to really tone your butt and thighs.
Just 3km from the city is this 5km walking track around Albert Park Lake. Complete with playground facilities, a kiosk, toilets and barbecue facilities, this track is ideal for a family walk - or for pram walking with friends. For more information, click here.
Top tip: Walking lunges are ideal for building long, lean muscles. Take a large step forward and bend your front leg until your knee is directly over your foot. Repeat with the other leg. Do sets of 10 every 50 metres or so.
This trail links all of Melbourne's inner-city parks and open spaces. It's a great sealed path that's suitable for any weather conditions. The total length of the trail is around 29km, but you can divide it into sections. Start at the Tennis Centre and walk back into the CBD along the Yarra River, and reward yourself with a coffee at one of the many cafes at the end. For more information click here.
Top tip: Try interval training where you combine walking and a jog. Simply walk from one marker (such as a street light) to the next, then run the next session. Build up your fitness so you can increase your running over the weeks.
Start at Eltham Railway station and take this 3.8km walk along Diamond Creek to Eltham Lower Park, home of the Diamond Valley Miniature Railway. There are public toilets, a great picnic spot and many items of local, historical interest to check out along the route. For more information click here.
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Top tip: Mix up your fitness by throwing in some long walks amidst the shorter, regular walks. Pack up the family, lots of water and a picnic lunch and make a day of it one weekend.
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The company that built on relationships is the only one that is going to stay intact when a competitor, with a lower price and more services, approaches to blow "your house" down.
One kind of relationship worth cultivating is the kind that lasts. Every successful business needs a vast network of trusted clients. Here are 5 tips to help strengthen relationships with clients.
You must initiate the interaction to learn about a client. This may be difficult for business owners unless they can overcome shyness or discomfort in order to reach out.
While learning about your clients ask open ended questions. For example, when negatives come up, it is important to actively listen and restate what is being said as needed. If possible, take advantage of in person research which will allow you to watch body and verbal cues. It may be tempting to only listen to the position of the client and how it relates to your product, but also listening to their interests and values helps start a foundation for a strong relationship.
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Extend your reach by automating mass email surveys, and scheduling appointments at tradeshows and conferences your clients already attend.
Communication is the key to client retention. After learning more about the client, use the information you gathered to keep messaging and services relevant to your clients' values. Maintain clear expectations on all sides, by creating goals and involving clients in the process. If they are well informed, clients will not act rashly and will be aware of your progress and appreciate your plans to improve.
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Communication is not one-sided. Gain trust by simplifying how clients submit work orders and receive feedback. Technology allows those work orders to be automatically distributed, escalated, and tracked.
Brand your communication. This allows clients to constantly be reminded that you are the solution to their needs. Each time a client has a positive experience while seeing your name and image, it reinforces brand loyalty. This shields your company from competition with lower prices and more services.
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Have all client communication in one place. This can be accomplished with technology that automatically stores and facilitates communication. Not only does it simplify internal processes, but it also ensures each interaction can be used as an opportunity for branding and a positive experience.
Now that you know what your clients need and are communicating to them regularly, make it possible for employees to exceed those expectations. Employees and management can better reach full potential with the more freedom a company has with its operations. Efficiency is the ability to do more with the same amount of time. Depending on a company's scope of work or region, it can be impossible to reach each individual client and learn about them face to face. Find technology and create processes that allow information to be readily available for both you and clients.
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Mobile applications on your tablets or smart phones can add impact while proving performance. Samantha Snider, owner of ProCare Cleaning Services said, "Clients trusted us much faster because we didn't just talk about our quality control program and show them what an inspection sheet might look like and so forth. We actually could jump on our PDA and show them that this is a live, working, breathing animal and show them how it works."
It is through your service to others that the true foundations for successful relationships and techniques for effective resolution are built and nurtured.
Engage in dialogue to grow. I guarantee this will result in finding issues you were not aware existed. Emphasize issues in a positive manor rather than avoiding them by focusing on the problem, and not the person. The information you gather and record can greatly benefit both you and your client, which strengthens that relationship. This is an invaluable advantage you will have when it comes time to renew the contract.
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BALTIMORE, Md. -- Freshman goalie Danny Ovelar stopped a five-meter shot with 26 seconds left in a tie game and sophomore Stephen Kingery scored the game-winner with just one tick left to lift the Division III No. 4-ranked Johns Hopkins University water polo team over 13th-ranked Princeton University in front of a packed house. The Blue Jays beat the Tigers for just the fourth time in program history to improve to 7-3 overall and 1-0 in the league. The Tigers suffer their first loss of the season as they fall to 8-1 overall and 0-1 in league play.
Princeton was awarded a five-meter shot with just 26 seconds left in the contest on a Hopkins foul right in front of its own goal. Drew Hoffenberg took the shot for the Tigers, going left on Ovelar, but the Jays' netminder was up to the task, blocking the shot to keep the score tied at 10-10. Princeton's Tyler Amina got a save on Hopkins' ensuing possession and the Tigers took over with 17 seconds left but couldn't get a shot off. The ball ended up in the middle of the pool with Kingery and a foul was called with just one second remaining. On the restart, Kingery fired the ball at the Tiger net and scored his second goal of the game to stun the Tigers.
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Schofield finished with four goals and two assists, while also grabbing three steals. Crow, who became the 19th player in program history with 100 career goals, notched a pair to go with three helpers. Ovelar finished with four saves and two steals in two quarters of action, while Weigel had six stops and one steal.
Freshmen accounted for nine of Princeton's 10 goals with reigning Collegiate Water Polo Association (CWPA) Southern Division Rookie of the Week Matt Weber leading the way with three goals. He also drew three ejections in the loss. Hoffenberg, Thomas Nelson and Kayj Shannon each added two goals. Wenzlau scored one time and led all players with three assists.
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