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I'm 34, nowhere near a moose mug, but closer than I was two days ago. And you are killing it on the miles bump.
2013 Sub-3:10
racer.a and 4:30 -- WOW! What great results for BOTH of you!!
racer.a ... Twenty miles is a long ways to run with somebody! You must've gotten along well, haha. Yeah, I wonder about those watches. Not relying on one might be a blessing in disguise. I run with a $19.99 stopwatch; doing the math gives me something to do. But last October, I forgot it at home by mistake. The result? A 1:24:04 half-marathon, crushing my previous PR by 4:30.
4:30 -- simply outstanding. Your race report was a pleasure to read. Completely crushed the sub-3:00 milestone, and I loved seeing your splits at the end. Would've been awesome to see you truck across the line at that pace. Congrats to your wife too!
Well, I've been sidelined from running for 5 weeks, 1 day and 30 minutes, but who's counting? My disappointment for missing Grandma's yesterday was balanced by a sincere feeling I've finally turned the corner on this darn extensor (top of the foot) tendinitis. My swim yesterday was the best so far by far. For the first time, I could kick my foot with full force, including with a kickboard. Before the swim, I went for a mile-long walk interspersed with 10 runs of perhaps 15-20 yards. It actually felt a bit better to run lightly than to walk.
Biking, elliptical, weights, swimming -- I've done it all. I've done once-a-week bike rides of 20-30 miles to approximate long runs. They've gone well. FYI, because my bike is broken, I've done them all on bike-share bikes that you need to get back to another station within 30 minutes or you get charged more! It's been a fun game, riding station to station here in the Twin Cities.
I know many of you who are more experienced than I am have been injured many times! This is new territory for me. Being sidelined with my first significant injury has put things in perspective. Some of that perspective came during this morning's ride when I encountered an older gentlemen at a water fountain. At the risk of going on too long already, I'll share the story ...
His name was Phil, and he was 74. As is typical with long-distance runners, he looked 10 years younger.
"Not many of us around any more. Hips, knees, you know. But I keep going."
I met Phil because I was needing some advice on some trails I had never been on before. To feed my runner's ego, I felt compelled to tell him I was a runner, and was injured, and it was frustrating because I had just completed Boston. And yes I was fine after the bombing. And yes, I finished. Yes, it was a fair amount before the bombing. An hour 20 minutes.
"Wow! What was your time?"
"Holy smokes!"
"Yeah, I qualified for next year's race, and I really want to go back."
"My PR is 3:40, years ago."
"That's darn good Phil."
"Yeah. Now I just try to finish in under 5 hours."
"That's great you ran Boston. I've been trying to qualify for the last 35 years."
From me, silence.
"Next year I'll be 75, so I'll get a break. Hoping to qualify next year."
Phil has been trying to qualify for thirty ... five ... YEARS!
That put things in perspective for me very, very quickly.
On that note ... happy running y'all.
4thirtyamguy & racer.a: Fantastic races, congratulations, you can really be proud ! Hope this issue with the Garmin will never happen to me...
bump14: Great mileage ! Wish you a good travel.
Steve: I feel your pain, hope you are back soon !
I start with my first Pfitz plan this week. Excited, but also with a lot of respect...
All the best to all of you !
4thirtyamguy & racer.a — Huge congratulations to you both! Wow. Really amazing. Hope you are both celebrating (and recuperating).
My humble week:
Mon – 8.8 treadmill (last 2.0 at 6:00 pace)
Tue – 13.7
Wed – 6.0
Thu – 10.0
Fri – 6.0
Sat – rest
Sun am – 13.1 – Fairfield Half Marathon – 1:26:27 (6:35 pace)
Sun pm – 10.0 easy
The half marathon was good, but very sunny and a little hilly. I managed 65th of 4009 finishers and 4th of 355 in my age group. After the race I planted my feet in the cool, refreshing water of the Long Island Sound. And today… back to the grind…
station42 — Good luck to you. Hope you have a great "first" week.
Happy running, everyone!
4thirtyamguy & racer.a — Huge congratulations to you both! Wow. Really amazing. Hope you are both celebrating (and recuperating).
My humble week:
Mon – 8.8 treadmill (last 2.0 at 6:00 pace)
Tue – 13.7
Wed – 6.0
Thu – 10.0
Fri – 6.0
Sat – rest
Sun am – 13.1 – Fairfield Half Marathon – 1:26:27 (6:35 pace)
Sun pm – 10.0 easy
The half marathon was good, but very sunny and a little hilly. I managed 65th of 4009 finishers and 4th of 355 in my age group. After the race I planted my feet in the cool, refreshing water of the Long Island Sound. And today… back to the grind…
station42 — Good luck to you. Hope you have a great "first" week.
Happy running, everyone!
Great time and place - congratulations ! I hope my first Pfitz week will be a good one...
430 & RacerA - a big congrats on your races. Superb running and amazing times. 430, really, running 6:16 miles at the end of a marathon?!?!?! That is big time. Relax a bit and enjoy the feeling.
I had a good week last week.
Mon: 8.5
Tues: 8.5
Wed: 13.5
Thurs: 0ff
Fri: 8.5
Sat: 6
Sun: 5k race (5 mi total) in 19:01 (5:58, 6:06, 6:24, :33)
Total: 50 miles
The finish of the race was on the Giants Stadium field which was very cool. My company won the team competition against 14 other companies. Each team selected two runners. The female half of my team ran 18:45 and WON the overall women's race. Pretty impressive. It got pretty warm and I slowed considerably on mile 3, but almost snuck in under 19:00 (6:07 pace).
StationA: My Pfitz plan starts next week in preparation for NYC. Looking forward to sharing progress, etc. I like how you mention you are treating it with respect. I hear you. It's one thing to put it on paper, it's another thing to get out there and do it. Good luck and remember to stick to his paces, especially on the recovery days (ie - don't be afraid to run slow)!
Have a nice week all. Hot and humid here in NYC this week.
racer.a - Way to go! A sub3:10 cannot be far away. I am tempted to try a couple of HMs by feel, with no watch, but I don't know if I would have the discipline to do that for a full. Great job!
4:30 - Nice race and RR. I cannot imagine running that fast.
steveinminn - Hang in there. You'll come back better than ever. Good luck to Phil! Nice story.
patrick - Wow, nice HM in tough conditions. Awesome placing!
lawrence - Nice 5k. Good advice too, on not being afraid to run slow, as you can see below I subscribe to that notion :
This was my week of 6 days of running, still adjusting to the addition of some quality:
Mon: am: 7 @9:10
Mon: pm: 4 @9:00
Tue: am: 8 @8:40
Tue: pm: 5 @8:50
Wed: XT
Thu: am: 7 with 8x300 and 8x200 @5:45 avg pace
Thu: pm: 5 @9:20
Fri: am: 12 @8:25
Sat: am: 20 @8:35 hilly
Sun: am: 6 @8:50
Total 74
430: Huge congrats on smashing sub 3! Wow! That's the taking 3 hours out to a nice seafood dinner and never calling it back level.
RacerA: Great race, sub-3:10 will be soon!
Lawrence: Nice job on the 5K!
Patrick: Great HM in hilly and hot conditions. The heat always kills me.
Station: Good luck with the start of Pfitz.
I feel like a wimp for going with 12/55 for Lehigh Valley after seeing everyone's weekly miles on here ha ha. I know historically there's always discussion on here about the right Pfitz plan or tweaks so I thought I'd share my small tweaks to the 12/55 program, adding more intensity but keep it at 5 days of running.
1) Adding more MP miles - the Med-Lg Run mid-week ranges from 11-14 miles and I plan to run the last 7-10 at MP whenever the Lg Run of that week does not call for MP miles. That way, I'm running MP miles all 12 weeks. Not sure if that will really help at the marathon but I think it's more of a psychological thing for me to have more miles at MP this cycle.
2) Using the last 12 weeks of Lg Runs in the 18/55 program for the 12/55 program. So this weekend, finishing week 2 of 12/55, I'll be hitting the first of three 20 mile Lg Runs as opposed to only doing two 20 milers. Also that will incorporate the intense 18 w/ 14 @ MP Lg Run before the last 20 Mile Long Run
3) Running all Lg Runs at 7:30 pace (30 sec slower than MP) and Med-Lg Runs w/o MP miles at 7:20 pace. Before I was running 45-50 sec slower for the Lg Runs. We'll see how it goes with the heat of July/Aug.
Happy running this week to everyone!
Current PRs 5K: 19:20 (6/13) 15K: 59:29 (4/13) HM: 1:31:49 (10/12) FM: 3:08:29 (5/13)
Next Up: Lehigh Valley Marathon (9/8 - 3:04:xx goal), North Jersey 1/2 Marathon (10/19 - 1:25:xx goal), Philadelphia Marathon (11/17 - 3:02:xx goal)
Hello all - I recently signed up for the Twin Cities Marathon this October and thought I'd sign up for this board. I've run 5 marathons in my early 20s but have taken a 8 year hiatus from the marathon.
Over the last 8 years, my running has had it's ebbs and flows. I've had a few extended periods where I've not run much, but have had some spells of good running in 2007-08 and 2011-present.
Currently, I'm 15 weeks out from my marathon. I'm loosely following the Hanson's plan while throwing some of my own things in there as well. Goal number one this year is to get my half marathon time down. I have a 1:31 PR from 2008 that I think I can take a few minutes from this year.
I was running between 30-40 mpw for the first 3 months of the year. Over the last 8 weeks, I've bumped it up to where I'm running about 50-55 mpw which is where I hope to stay (+/- 5/10 miles) for the next 15 weeks of marathon training.
I've been pretty active over on the sub-1:30 half marathon board and just thought it would be fun to come over here. I'm not 100% sure I'm running this marathon as fast as possible. I may run it with a group of friends who are running it a bit slower. My number one goal is to get my half marathon time down, but even if I do run with my friends, I'm going to train as if I'm going for a sub-3:10.
430amguy. You the man! Way to go dude! You crushed it!
racer.a Awesome work by you as well. Well done.
Still can't put this board on the high end of the priority list, for which I apologize, but couldn't let those two performances go by without saying congrats. I'm impressed.
As you were.
Thanks Everyone for the congrats. Needless to say, Pfitz knows worked for me, my training over the last 9 months has been based on his book, and it took me from 3:22 to 2:54 in 9 months. Jpride I hope things are going well for you. Got any races planned?
Welcome Brent!
I did my first week of Pfitz 18/70. Everything went well, it´s an easy start but I´m aware this will change with time... .
Lawrence1971: I´m also very interested how the Pfitz plan goes for you and am looking forward to sharing experiences and progress. I´m a beginner with this and happy about every advice. I will run the recovery runs supereasy, that´s what everybody recommends. Wish you all the best with your Pfitz start !
thomas2507: Interesting approach of tweaking the plan. I´m sure you will do the right thing for you. I will also have 3 very hot weeks in August in Andalucia / south of Spain, let´s see, probably have to start the 22miler at 4 a.m.....
brent_hanson15: Welcome here !
4thirtyamguy: What you achieved with Pfitz is what I´m dreaming of. This is super-impressive !!!
Steve: Hope you feel better in the meantime ! (?)
Wish you all a wonderful running week !
Mon – 9.2 treadmill at 6:31 pace (last 4.0 at 6:00 pace)
Tue – 14.5 at 8:39 pace
Wed – 7.9 easy
Thu – 13.0 at 8:43 pace
Fri – 6.0 easy
Sat – 22.9 at 8:10 pace
Sun – 7.1 easy
80.6 miles
I was tired this week, especially after racing last Sunday and speed work on Monday. My medium-long runs on Tuesday and Thursday included some really slow miles. But Sunday's long run was good — comparable to recent long runs. So we'll see how next week goes… 15 weeks until Chicago.
Station, ARunnerd, Thomas – Thanks for the good words last week. Station, good work getting start with Pfitz. Hope it all goes smoothly.
Happy running, everyone!
Thanks station 42! I hope pfitz works well for you too. Running in the heat in Andalucia should be a good training stimulus. Just slow the pace a little and drink more to stay hydrated. Huge week Patrick! I was over ambitious for a week after a marathon, and now my ankle hurts. I ran 5 easy this morning and it is nothing that will stop me from running but I will have to be careful this week. My week was:
W: weights
F: 5@8:09 and weights
S: 5@7:10 w/4 strides
Sn:14.1 @ 7:19
43 Total
Good Running all!
Finished up week 3 of the 18/85, except I threw in a 20 miler at the end instead of the 16, just due to the fact that I have done that distance a lot over the last 3 months. 74 miles for the week, and things went well, with the exception of the rather flat tempo last Tuesday.
430amguy - Solid week following a marathon. I'm assuming the 4:30 am means waking up early to run? I'm hoping to develop that a little more. I did wake up at 4:30 once last week to knock out a workout, but man getting up early is tough!
Patrick25905 - Whoa! That's solid miles. Wish I had the time to get three 2 hr runs in during the week, but I just can't fit it into my schedule. My wife would kill me and my 3-year old daughter would wonder where he dad is. Good for you, though!
station42 - I ran my best marathon (3:26) on the Pfitz 18/70 plan... I've taken an 8-year hiatus from marathoning, but I'm already questioning my decision to follow the Hanson's program versus the Pfitz program that worked so well for me in 2004. I'm hoping come October, I'm not really regretting the decision, but I'm leaning towards doing the Pfitz training next year.
Me - Was a little bit of a challenge to try to find time to get in all these miles, but I'm hoping to stay in the 55-65 mile range for the next month or two while still getting some quality workouts in. I'm bumping this week's scheduled tempo run since I'm doing a 5 mile race on Saturday night. Big runs include long run this Sunday and 5x1000 meters which I'm hoping to do Wednesday morning...
M - 8 miles (6:50/mi)
T - 5.8 mi (8:57/mi)
W - AM - 8.2 mi (7:33/mi) - 6x800 @ 3:13 avg
PM - 3 mi (7:38/mi)
T - 10 mi (6:51/mi) - 2 mi wu - 6 mi tempo at 6:40 on TM (6:57 equivalent) - 2 mi cd
F - Rest
S - 14 mi (8:15/mi)
S - 6 mi (7:09/mi)
Total - 55 miles
430 – Thanks for continuing to post detailed milage here! Speaking for myself, it's very helpful to see. By the way, in your medium-long runs leading up to Grandma's, what was your typical pace range? (Hope the ankle feels better.)
Swim – I'm doing the 18/85 also. I know what you mean about continuing the longer long runs.
Brent – Ha! No wife or family here. My responsibilities are pretty much divided between working (for myself) and running. I can't imagine how you do it.
Patrick, I would alternate doing them at 7:20-7:30, and doing them with a warm up and then a long (10 miles or so) MP session (6:45-6:50). That was not prescribed by pftiz but it think it really helped MP feel easy for the first 20 miles.
I was just thinking this morning that it's been quiet on the board and then all of this activity! I will give a general "great work everyone".
My Pfitz 18/70 starts this week. Actually, I started yesterday because I do my long runs on Fridays (for now). Nice 9 miles yesterday with four 6:36 pace tempo miles and then an 11 mile MLR today. Pfitz starts off with a bang for sure. Yesterday at 8am in NYC it was 78 degrees w/ 76% humidity and it really beat me up. And no rest or nap for me as I spent the rest of the day with the kids!
Maybe this humidity will break one of these weeks.
Have a good week all and keep the posts coming!
Nice work on the training this week everyone, looks like there will be plenty of PRs in the fall!
I finished week 2 of my modified Pfitz 12/55-
M- 11 Mi w/ 7 at MP (7:00p)
T - 1 hr Crossfit class
W - LT - 8 Mi w/ 4 @6:30p
Th - 1 hr Crossfit
F - 5 Mi Recovery + strength & core
Sat - 20 Mi @ 7:30p
Sun - rest
44 total for the week. The 20 miler felt great, it's :30 faster than I ran them last 18/55 cycle and I think it will defin help race day. The LT run was tough on a very hot day, I find it most difficult to keep the LT pace in the heat. Hope everyone has a nice holiday this week. We're heading up to Nantucket, I'll probably run in their 4th of July 5K and do a 16 Mi w/ 12 at MP this weekend.
Current PRs 5K: 19:20 (6/13) 15K: 59:29 (4/13) HM: 1:31:49 (10/12) FM: 3:08:29 (5/13)
Next Up: Lehigh Valley Marathon (9/8 - 3:04:xx goal), North Jersey 1/2 Marathon (10/19 - 1:25:xx goal), Philadelphia Marathon (11/17 - 3:02:xx goal)
Wow, I am not sure I am legit enough to post my miles compared to ya'll. Its impressive to see what your doing and really enjoy reading how the plans are progressing. (even after the race 4:30am)
Thomas- Strong week and that's a fast 20 miler- are you bumping to the pace for confidence or is that pace just getting easier?
Brent- Welcome, also a solid week and strong paces.
Patrick- Lots of miles in there and impressive especially coming off of a race week!
Lawrence- I hope the heat and humidity break a bit for you.
Steveinminn- Get well quick!
Station- I hope week 2 goes as well as well 1
I have Pfitz book and find it most helpful but with all this talk I am considering the 12/55. Only because I am about 17 weeks out now but have to taper for my 1/2 Iron man in 2 weeks. Then I am going to be one of two pacers helping my friend with the Leadville 100. It not easy to have a traditional marathon training schedule preparing for these other 2 events, but maybe the last 12 weeks????
My last week (peak week for 70.3 training)
M- 2000m swim-- 57.3 bike---13.1 run (6:25:10) this was a moderate effort go at the whole tri distance
T- recovery day
W- 10m progression run from 8:00-7:00-8:00
Th- 3000 swim and 32 mile hill ride
F- 14 easy run
S- 60m bike@ race pace
Sun 1500 open water swim
I am looking forward to these next two weeks of taper then after the race it will be time to ramp back up again....
Have a great week!
Time to put myself out there for a fall race. I'm shooting for an new marathon PR in Memphis on 12/7 (3:04:14 set at Boston 2010). Fastest marathon since then was at last September's Fox Valley Marathon (3:06:01).
About me--44 years old, from Chicago. Running since 2006. Tend to be a higher volume type of guy, ran my first BQ in Chicago 2009 (3:09:41) using a Pfitz 12/85+ plan, used same plan for last fall's BQ. Using a Hanson/Luke Humphries 20 week 60-80 mpw plan this time and adding doubles to get mileage to 80-100 mpw.
Battled posterior tibial tendonitis during my buildup for Boston 2013 which kept me from running in February. Was allowed to run again starting in March, but was told to be very conservative with mileage buildup, so I only ran one 20 miler before the Boston. Took it easy on race day and ran a 3:28, before pacing two more marathons (Illinois on 4/28, Peoria Run River City on 5/19). Just started rebuilding my mileage in anticipation for my 20 week Hanson plan--weekly totals of 58, 73, 82, 75 in the past four weeks.
Congrats to those of you who've hit your goals (especially 4thirty, WOW), and good luck to everyone else this fall.
After a ~month of not posting, I'm trying to get back into the swing of things.
430: I'm glad about your recent FM time for two reasons: first, I'm happy for you, and second, I'm happy that what looked like intimidating training for a 3:10 thread turned out to be just that. Get some rest for that ankle - you've certainly earned it.
steveinminn: Glad to hear that you're on the mend, and that you've been able to get lots of cross training done. If you want to have another go at runkeeper, try finding me at runkeeper.com/user/dankelley.
NACN: Excellent mileage over the last month. My bet is that all the MP+ miles in Hansons makes a solid base even more important than it'd be in other plans. I'll be in Chicago on 10/13 - it'll be my first big race of any length, and I'm excited to be in the A corrall.
thomas: Befitting our doppelganger status, I _almost_ ended up doing the exact same thing for Lehigh Valley (12/55+), but have decided to switch gears. Given the similarities in our results/background, we should make for a fine study on training methods. More on what I'm doing below.
drbart: I loved the pics of your visit to Kenya. I read "Running with the Kenyans" last year, and since then I've had the idea of trying to do the Lewa Marathon on my 40th birthday. It'd be rad to be "first muzungu" in that race.
racer.a: Congrats on the 3:11:xx. Sounds like you ran exactly the race you were trying to race, which is about all one can expect over the full distance. I'm impressed that you could hold it together without GPS feedback. Pacing is my biggest weakness as a runner. In my most recent FM I think I looked at the "instant pace" number on my Garmin about every 200ft.
bump: Seems like you've been banging out solid 80 mile weeks pre-travel. Nicely done!
lawrence: Congrats on the team win. I wish my company did something like that, it'd be a blast. The closest we get is a RTB team that work picks up 50% of the expenses for (which is admittedly pretty great).
patrick: Looks like you're stringing together some very solid weeks, and a 1:26 half in the middle of training is a nice validation of what you've got going on. You're on for Chicago, right? How far into 18/85 are you?
station42: Have you done a Pfitz plan before? I've only done the 18/55, but I'll confirm for you that the first weeks feel slacker-y. That's just a prelude to getting your butt (productively) kicked later in the plan.
arunnerd: I see that you've got a lot of doubles there. I'm starting to double regularly for the first time, but am trying to stick to the Pfitz maxim of only doing so when going > 70mpw. Do you find that there's a big difference between fewer, longer runs, and the increased doubles?
Sorry to anyone I missed.
I'm signed up for Lehigh Valley on 9/8 to try to increase my chances of getting into Boston (I've got 60s of headroom on my 3:10 qualifying time right now, which doesn't seem likely to get me in). I had thought about doing 12/70 to try to drop 4+ minutes off that time, but my schedule hasn't quite worked out that way. I took a week off after Providence, then did 28, 40, and 56 miles in the subsequent weeks, all easy. I then got dental impants and went to Disney World with my kids, which knocked me back to 35mi that week. (In case you've been wondering, the heat/humidity of central Florida in June is a bigger impediment to running than having things drilled into your skull.)
Given the lack of time before Lehigh Valley, I've decided to do my own thing rather than do an abbreviated plan. To that end, I've been trying to get in more mileage than I've run before. I did ~61 week before last, then had this last week:
- Tue: 10.29 @ 7:54 w/ 4mi @ 6:35
- Wed: 11.05 @ 8:21
- Thu: am 8.43 @ 8:46 pm 7.02 @ 8:28
- Fri: 7.16 @ 8:38
- Sat: 11:52 @ 8:36
- Sun: 15.63 @ 8:46
- Total: 71.1mi
I'd never run more than 55 miles in a week before Pfitz, so I feel like I'm playing with fire a bit by putting up 56, 61, and 71 mile weeks, but the majority of these miles have been _slow_, and things are holding together so far. I'm going to try to stick between 65 and 75 pw for the next month (mostly easy, with one tempo per week and some of the LRs at GMP), then run a local HM (in Gloucester, MA) to see if the increased mileage lets me peel a couple of minutes off of the 1:29 I ran back in April. No idea if this will work out for either the HM or Lehigh Valley, but it'll be fun to try something different.
dankelley--local HM in Gloucester, MA? I know about the Twin Lights in May. Is there another one later in the year? For the record, my inlaws are from the Salem/Beverly area.
BTW, I'll be pacing in Chicago this year (3:30).
NACN - Welcome back to the active roster.
dankelly - I do the doubles just to get the miles in. If my body would let me, I think it would be better for my endurance to do another MLR instead. Alternatively, I might be better off to run 7 days a week and have fewer doubles. I'm not ready to try that yet, if ever. I want the miles and recovery, so doubles and XT feels good for now.
I raced a hilly 10K last weekend, finishing in 41:12. I was pleasantly surprised. I didn't think I was ready for that yet. This capped off 302 miles for June. The bad news is that DOMS has been kicking my butt for 2 days straight and July is off to a craptastic start.
dankelley--local HM in Gloucester, MA? I know about the Twin Lights in May. Is there another one later in the year? For the record, my inlaws are from the Salem/Beverly area.
It's this one:
No idea if it's a decent event or not.
I was born in Beverley
Dankelley – Thanks for the good words. Yes, I'm working on 18/85 for Chicago. At this point – 14th week until race week – I've already started straying a bit from the plan by adding a mile or two and keeping my longer long runs of 20–23 miles. I'll also shift the second phase one week later so that a 10k on July 21 falls on a recovery week. I'm happy to report that I got a 15.9-mile run last night at 7:56 pace, so recovery continues from the slogging last week. / You've had a pretty ambitious ramp-up. Finding a nice mileage level to plateau is a smart idea. Also smart is the HM in your schedule. I won't have another HM until September and that's bugging me.
Hello all!
I feel (hope?) I'm about ready to emerge from the runner's version of dead. Saturday will be the 7-week anniversary (?) of my tendon injury, which manifested in extensor (top of the foot) tendinitis I guess. It's been ... brutal.
Anyway, I appear to be on the mend, and walk/running very ... gingerly. Today, a mile and a quarter at an 11-minute pace, about four-fifths of it running. Two days ago, a mile at a 12-minute pace, about half of it running. This has been very humbling, and difficult. I've been running nonstop since age 19, except for about a seven-week break when I broke my ankle at age 25. So this gap has been physically and mentally challenging.
But I've barely missed a day of cross-training -- swimming, biking, weights, elliptical (yuck), I've done it all. My goal is to get to 20 miles a week by August 1, and follow the 10% rule religiously to peak at 47 miles a week or so by the second week of October, and then taper down for New York. We'll see ...
Dan, thanks! I've just added you to RunKeeper. Good luck on your Boston quest. I don't know .. the time you have may be sufficient. Qualifying is a lot harder than people realize.
Patrick -- good luck with training for Chicago!
Arunnerd -- Congrats on your strong race!
NACN -- Hi. Nice to meet you. My name is Steve and I'm recovering from tendinitis. I feel your pain. Hitting the "restart" button with you, or soon to do so I hope.
Thanks y'all for your "get better dammit" comments. They've lightened my spirits.
Good to be back among runners. I didn't feel too worthy there for a while. Ugh.
OK, onward ...
Hi all, Just a short update: Week 2 of my Pfitz 18/70 was fine, too. No problems up to now.
Lawrence: I hope your Pfitz started well, too.
RFW11: Yes, worked well. Good tapering & all the best for your race !
NACN!!: Welcome, wow, what a mileage...
dankelley: Never did Pfitz before. I´m aware the first weeks are just a prelude (and I will be thinking of your words again, for sure ,...) . I´ll (try to) listen to my body and would cut back if needed. I´m sure you won´t have problems with the increased miles.
ARunnerd: Congratulations, good 10K on a hilly course.
Wish you a all a great running week, I´m looking forward to reading your updates.
Mon – 9.1 treadmill at 6:30 pace
Tue – 15.9 at 7:56 pace
Wed – 7.0 at 7:23 pace
Thu – 13.0 slow
Fri – 5.0 slow
Sat am – 5.0 slow
Sat pm – 10.0 slow
Sun – 15.6
80.7 miles
I struggled in the last half of the week. Heat, humidity and a touch of bursitis (ache in left hip) didn't help, but I'm lacking a little motivation too. I may have met my limit at this point in training with back-to-back 80-mile weeks. At some point soon I may shift down to the 18/70 plan so I can (I hope) pick up the pace.
Hope everyone else is adapting to the summer and enjoying some great runs!
My tired old body and the heat said no to any quality this week. I got in a couple of MLRs @8:30ish pace, otherwise all easy miles -- 70 total.
Just reading Pfitz makes me sore. Good luck to you guys!
patrick: I found Pfitz (well, the 18/55, which is obviously _much_ easier than what you're doing) to be very good at bringing me right to the edge before stepping back and giving me an easier day or two to recover. Hard to say if you should step back to 18/70, but I would say that adding mileage to 18/85 sounds ambitious unless you know from experience that you can handle the combo of volume and quality. The good news is that all of the Pfitz 18 plans have nice long tapers at the end.
steve: Welcome back to the land of the running! Ramping up very slowly is infuriating but smart.
arunnerd: Agreed, it's too damn hot. I think I'm about as adapted as I'm going to be to the heat, but it's still a slog. On the plus side, I got to end every one of last week's runs by jumping in a lake. I supposed that's the vastly superior summer equivalent of taking a long hot shower after a winter LR.
I got my 3rd successive weekly mileage PR this past week:
- Tue: 10.61 @ 7:53, w/ 5 @ 6:38
- Wed: 12.37 @ 8:16
- Thu: 12.99 @ 8:19
- Fri: 10.25 @ 8:40
- Sat: 12.18 @ 8:18
- Sun: 15.66 @ 8:29
- Total: 74.1 mi
I meant to get 18 on Sunday, but the schedule didn't work. I feel like I'm on some kind of MLR-only plan now, but am nonetheless encouraged that my paces dipped back into the low 8s after last week's slog-fest. The 5mi tempo this week was also _much_ easier than the 4mi tempo last week, even though they ended up being at the same pace.
After 4/5 weeks hitting weekly mileage highs (56, 61, 71, 74), I think it's time for less mileage and some more quality, so I'll drop back to ~65 this week, do a 6 mile tempo, and try to get a GMP run in on Sunday.
Dankelly, Arunnerd, Patrick - nice high mileage weeks.
Station - glad your first 2 Pfitz weeks went well.
Pfitz 18/70 week 1 went well for me.
Mon: 11
Tues: 5
Wed: 9
Thurs: Off
Fri: 15
Sat: Off
Sun: 8
48 total (I purposely removed one of the 5 mile recovery days for an off day)
The Sunday prior I did the tempo (lactate threshold) run as I do my long runs for now on Fridays so I started the plan on Sunday.
Week 2 started today with a MLR 12 miler. So far, the 2 Monday MLRs have been the most challenging. Not so much the actual runs, but rather doing a relatively long run on a Monday and getting mentally up for it. It didn't help that yesterday I had Nathans hotdogs, french fries and ice cream in Coney Island and walked around with my kids for hours and hours in the heat going on rides and playing games! But that is the balance of life!
And it has been quite hot still in NYC. Average 6am temps have been 74-78 with pretty high humidity. But I think I've become used to it as my runs have been quality thus far.
Have a good week all.
Nice weeks everybody, especially with the brutal heat. I finished up week 3 of modified Pfitz 12/55. Spent most of the week on vacation so did not eat as healthy as I normally do but did manage to get all my runs in.
M - 8 w/10x100 strides @ 7:55
Th - Upper body and core work
Fri - 4 @ 8:32 plus ub/core work
Sat - 5 @ 8:32 plus ub/core work
Sun - 16 w/ 12 @ MP. 7:00 MP was not going to happen, I ran the MP miles 7:20-7:25 to be safe.
48 total
The Sunday long run was one of the most grueling I can remember, harder than all of my previous 20 milers. I realized 6 miles in that I forgot to bring my gels and only had water. I was fading hard by mile 11, stopped at a water fountain to cool down and drink water and, after a 5 minute rest, the last 5 miles were my fastest of the run. Going to have to search for a new place with more shade to do these runs in July/August I think. Be careful with the heat this week!
Hey everyone, it's looking like many here are getting in some terrific training. It's very encouraging to see.
SteveInMinn--Hope you continue on the course to recovery. I found regular XT and PT exercises to be very helpful in my recovery from posterior tibial tendonitis, especially in those weeks that I wasn't allowed to run. Are you getting any sort of medical treatment as part of your rehab process?
Patrick--Strong week! Pfitz really knows how to kick someone's tail with these schedules. I found myself running lots of stuff in the 8:30-9+ range in order to be able to handle the quality in those plans, especially when things got warm and humid in Chicago last summer.
ARunnerd-- Great to see a familiar name in the bunch! And smart move to slow things down to 8:30 ish pace as we get used to these summer conditions.
station42-- congrats on finishing Week 2 of the 18/70!
dankelley--WTG with the consecutive mileage PR!
Lawrence1971--Awesome to see that Pfitz is starting well for you, and good job balancing training with family. I'm sure my family (especially sister, BIL, and their kids) can tell when I'm in serious training mode, because that's when I don't see them as frequently.
thomas--great job on balancing training with vacation! I seriously struggle with that, between eating properly and actually taking the time to get in those workouts in a way that doesn't interfere with any vacation related activities.
Had a solid week, both in terms of mileage and the reintroduction of quality
Monday-- 8 @ 7:49
Tuesday--12.03 @ 7:29 with last 6 @ 7:00
Wednesday--7.47 @ 8:02 (AM run)
3.35 @ 11:57 (PM run, coaching intro 10K group through a 40 minute negative split run)
Thursday--18.53 @ 8:06
Friday--10.27 @ 8:46 (AM run)
5.53 @ 8:09 (PM run)
Saturday--8.13 @ 7:03 (AM run, coaching Saturday morning marathon training group. Focused on my 7:30 pace group, who was scheduled to run the last 5 @ "race pace". First 3+ miles in 7:25-7:30 range, last 5 miles around 6:45 pace. Definitely a strong run, but way too fast for what I consider MP for me.)
4.72 @ 8:29 (PM run)
Sunday--4.1 @ 8:49 (AM run, solo mileage on my way to coaching Sunday morning training group)
8.17 @ 8:37 (Coaching group. Took on a more global role this morning, supervising and running with as many pace groups as possible, so my pacing was all over the place)
It was my highest weekly total so far in 2013. This week also marked the first time since an 8K on April 7th that I attempted anything at 7:00 pace or faster.
Welcome NACN and Brent.
I have some catching up to do.
Vacation was great! Drank entirely too much beer, laid around in the sun too much, and enjoyed every minute of it.
I didn't run a whole lot but did everyday-got that little streak going. Running in the Dominican Republic is unbelievably hot and humid. Normally, the shoes don't start to squish until mile 9 or so but they did around the 5 mile mark there. You guys ever go for a short run at about 5pm after drinking beer all day? I have.
After 3 good mileage weeks before I left, I probably ran about 45 miles in 11 days or so. Getting back at it this week and will try to hit it hard next week.
There are some pretty good weeks being put up by you guys--especially in this heat. Honestly, I'll take 20 degrees any day over this stuff, but it I just keep thinking how good it will feel when fall makes its appearance.
Again I´m the one who opens the reports on this week´s results . Probably this is due to the time Zone: I´m already back from my Sunday longer run and some of you might just go to bed after a long Saturday night...
Week 3 of my Pfitz plan went well, too. Easy in general, just the 5 mi tempo run on Friday was harder than expected (quite hot and second part against the wind). Next week should be doable, too, but week 5 seems to be a really hard one (at least for me). It´s fun and I feel fine, thinking from week to week.
Congratulations to all of you what you did the week before and I´m looking forward to reading soon your new posts. Great to see that I´m not the only one following Pfitz here and glad to have some really experienced runners in this group.
Going to a lake now with my family and can´t wait to drink a cool nice beer... Prost (=German "cheers").
station: I hear you on the tempo runs. Attempted a 10 w/ 5 LT at 92 real feel this week and hated it
M - 5 recovery + crossfit
Tu - LT - 10 w/ 5 @ LT (LT = 7:05)
W - crossfit
Th - 11 w/ 7 MP (MP = 7:18)
Fri - 5 recovery + crossfit
Sat - 14 @ 7:28
Total = 45
Much slower LT and MP paces this week in the heat. Don't know if any of yall struggle with this, but It's my first summer training cycle for a late summer and fall marathon and I've been toying with the question of what paces to target when the heat index is over 90. I'm targeting a sub-60F 7:00 MP but know that isn't realistic on these hot days. Without a hear-rate monitor, I had just been going by "feel". A veteran from the local running club told me to add 2 secs per mile for each degree over 65. I took that advice and created a table below and used it this week. I started with my 15K PR pace of 6:23 and plugged into McMillan for my base paces. Then I plugged each MP into McMillan for the faster race paces. The 85 degree 15K pace of 7:05 I targeted for the LT run did feel like the 6:23 cold-weather 15K pace. Hopefully this is the right way of going about things. Happy running this week to everyone!
"Real Feel" MP HMP 15K 10K 5K
<=60 6:53 6:32 6:23 6:11 5:57
65 6:58 6:38 6:28 6:16 6:02
70 7:08 6:47 6:38 6:25 6:11
75 7:18 6:57 6:47 6:34 6:19
80 7:28 7:06 6:56 6:43 6:28
85 7:38 7:16 7:05 6:52 6:37
90 7:48 7:25 7:15 7:01 6:45
95 7:58 7:35 7:24 7:10 6:54
100 8:08 7:44 7:33 7:19 7:03
Hi All,
Hope everyone had a good week.
Station: love how you kick off the weekly updates on Sundays. Enjoy that cold beer. Nice week 3 for you.
Thomas: yes, this heat and humidity really sucks. I don't necessarily feel it too much on the long runs and general aerobic runs since those paces aren't too fast anyway. But my MP run this week was a good 10-15 sec/mile slower due to the 78 degrees and 78% humidity. I generally slow it down by feel, but your chart is a good idea as well. The LT runs are certainly really tough in this heat. Mine is coming up Wednesday and another heat wave is coming to NYC.
I had a good week 2 in my Pfitz 18/70:
Mon: 12 MLR @ 8:21 pace
Tues: 5 recovery @ 9:07 pace
Wed: 9 general aerobic @ 8:37 pace
Thur: 16 LR w/ MP @7:58 pace, last 8 @ 7:28 pace (had to slow from 7:15 MP due to temps/humidity
Fri: Off
Sat: 5 recovery @ 8:51 pace
Sun: 11.25 MLR @ 8:11 pace
Highs forecast for the mid-90s and lows in the mid to upper 70s this week. Ugh. Is it September yet?
Enjoy your week everyone and keep the updates coming.


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These are small speakers that are made by Logitech. They can be used with alot of different products but I have got mine connected to my PC because my other speakers broke.
I am happy with these speakers but I bought them online and it was a shock when they was delivered because they are very small.
They create a good sound when I play music through them but I do not like the way they buzz if my phone is put too close to them. You can plug earphones into the speakers but I do not know what is the point of that because if I wanted to use my earphones I would not plug in the speakers.
The speakers have got quite long wires so that you can place them far away from the PC but that is not very good for me and I do not like the way they twist up and tangle together if I move them. I should not move them I know but sometimes I have to.
There is a volume control on one of the speakers and that is a very good idea because it is faster to do that if my phone rings when I have my music on than to change the volume using the settings on my PC.
These speakers cost about £25 and I think that is value because they are very easy to use and they work alot better than the speakers I had before for my PC.
4 Dooyoo Hearts.
I purchased these speakers just over a year ago as the old speakers I owned had been laid to rest by the reaper of the electronic world.
My original intention when purchasing these new speakers was just to get a moderately cheap pair of speakers as something to just make do for the time being, however I was very satisfied with my purchase.
These speakers produce good quality sound which is why they've stuck with me for this past year, well this and their modern and great design plus the quality of this sound hasn't deteriorated at all, this is despite the beatings it's had over the past year too.
I've had nephews poke and prod at it, dropped it down the stairs when moving my computer around and knocked them off my desk more times than I can count (i'm very clumsy) and surprisingly these speakers are still working at the same quality they did when I first purchased them so I can't help but be impressed by that alone.
These speakers do have a volume dial located on one of them too which allows the user to quickly and easily adjust the sound to their satisfaction which I personally find very useful as I am one of those people that hate to keep adjusting their volume via the volume control on the computer, it becomes very tedious and annoying especially when the loudness of different songs/videos is obvious.
I did pay £20 for my pair of Logitech LS11 speakers when I first purchased them from PC World, so I would say to anyone wanting to purchase these that when they're on offer for £10 and I paid £20 then it sounds like a pretty good deal to me, unless of course these speakers are made in Thailand, but that seems like an unlikely scenario to me for speakers like these.
The only problem I've actually encountered with this product is the wires, there are 4 of them which tangle together (including the power cord) and this can be rather frustrating. I suppose one thing that does make up for this though is the length of the wires which means that the speakers can be put within quite a large range of your computer.
Overall I'd say this is a great purchase which is definitely worth the price you pay for them.
These logitech speakers are a fantastic purchase for someone looking to upgrade from built in laptop speakers or fit decent sound onto a crowded desk. These little speakers pack a good punch with strong base, a good high range, and clear middle frequencies - and they can get rather loud when cranked up all the way to eleven! They have a small footprint, but can fill the room with stereo sound, so would be great to fit into a tight spot. They're compatible with anything with a auxillary jack, so I have them plugged into my television with another cable running to my laptop as a 2 for 1 upgrade to my existing sound. These could also be used as extra speakers for a surround sound setup if you want to upgrade later on. They're a great price, and I've always had good experience with Logitech customer service.
Have an Aspire 5732z laptop that I use with an Acer 19 inch monitor. I sometimes connect my laptop up to my Sony tv which is internet enabled and also lets me play games and videos off the laptop on the tv, using the Sony Amplifier I have connected to the tv.
However my laptop is all set up on my dining room table with the monitor, and I mostly like to leave it there as it creates a mess of wires on the floor near the tv and doesn't always work with the tv.
The speaker on the Aspire is tinny, weak and ineffective, so I normally use my headphones. This is restrictive though so I have a few sets of pc speakers, some old ones stopped working for various reasons. One pair I have that work and produce good sound, or good enough is the ever reliable Logitech's this version is the LS11.
You can plug your headphones into the speaker via the socket on the right hand speaker, where there is also the more useful volume control / If you buy speakers, why would you plug headphones into them? They are already in the headphone socket anyway.
These Logitech LS11 speakers will cost about £11 on Ebay or £15 in Argos new so they are not exactly going to bankrupt you.
To set them up you just plug the jack into the socket on your laptop or pc, which on the Aspire is green; after you have plugged the power pack into the mains, position the two speakers and it should work.
On the Aspire it goes into the green headphone socket on the left, I think the red socket is for a microphone. It is the same set up as other Logitech pc speakers I have had, it is easy to use but looks a bit cheap and plasticity.
They give a good surround sound effect so you don't just hear from one speaker or the other.
It says 3w but that doesn't give you an idea of what it sounds like. They are not too bassy, and give a clear sound so you can actually hear what people are saying unlike another pair I had which had so much bass everything just blurred into one long booooom !
I spent a lot on that set, whereas this budget set is more practical for short term casual listening. Its okay for things like you tube clips, news clips, wmp music etc.
I have a mediocre laptop that is not anything flashy but manages to do the job, however there are times when I want to listen to music or watch catch up shows to BBC I Player or demand services and end up having to put earphones into the laptop just so I can hear the content, as even with my laptop volume on highest it is still hard to hear everything to a satisfactory standard and especially when the laptop is placed further away from me.
Therefore it came time for me to invest in some speakers that I could use with my laptop and with my iPod, so off to Argos I went.
== Price ==
When I visited Argos they had a few speakers to choose from. However I decided to pick the Logitech LS11 speakers mainly because it looked quite attractive and being priced at £17.99 wasn't bad at all. I didn't want anything too fancy or too advanced, so this looked simple and appealing and managed to stay within my budget.
These speakers are also available from Amazon at £12.50 which is a bargain in my opinion, and wish I had shopped around a bit before buying them!
== Design ==
The speakers have a height of 16.3, Width: 8.5, Depth: 8.1cm, and have 1.5watt speakers. The speakers are not too big or too small; instead I think they are perfectly sized to fit next to a laptop or iPod without taking much room.
I was more than happy with the design and appearance of the speakers, they had shiny silver metal inner speakers that along with the black outer contrast made the speakers look nice and glossy and very modern looking. Even though are priced cheap they certainly do not look cheap, in my opinion they look like a pair of expensive high tech speakers. The speakers have a nice silver metal coloured frame that's located on the outer rim of the speakers and shapes into a curvy design at the bottom to form a base stand.
The right speaker holds the volume control which is a big black circular module in the middle. The right speaker also contains a headphone jack socket which is clearly visible. The left speaker has the logo printed on the front near the bottom and is nice and small, as I personally find big bold logos on electrical items can make them look odd and cheap.
== My Experience ==
The assembling and installation process was a doddle, simply insert the speaker wires into the laptop and its up and running. There was no endless wires hanging around, there were just two wires one into the laptop and one into the speaker, simple and tidy at the same time.
The speakers are easy to turn on and off, and all it takes is a simple click of the volume button, and once you see a green light appear near the volume you know it's ready to go.
And once it is switched on the sound quality is brilliant, I can hear music to a much better standard now and can really hear the bass, the beat and the vocals clearly with no fuzzy crackling sounds. Watching movies and shows on the laptop has become a lot more enjoyable thanks to these speakers; I can hear all the action and voices clearly even when the speakers are placed quite far away. The volume levels are easy to adjust, and even at medium volume the sounds is more than audible from across a medium sized room.
The speaker cables are not too long or too short so they are easy to move around without making a mess or wires getting tangled.
== Conclusion ==
Overall these are great quality speakers, I have had them for over a year and they are still functioning and working brilliantly. From time to time they can get a little noticeably dusty due being black coloured, however a quick wipe with a cloth solves this issue instantly. The sound is clear and crisp, no issues at all with the sound quality. Overall 5 star buy due to the quality and the bargain price tag.
I purchased a laptop about 2 years ago and immediately decided that I wanted to purchase some speakers to go with the laptop. I often play games on the computer and am always playing music so I wanted some decent speakers where I could turn the volume up and it would sound much better than it would if I was playing the music on my laptop. I didn't want to go for really cheap speakers, but I also didn't want to spend silly amount of money on some speakers either. I was intending to purchase a brand I had heard of before as I knew these would probably be much more reliable than an own brand or brand I have never heard of before.
The Speakers
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The speakers are made by Logitech and can be purchased from various different places including Argos and Amazon. The speakers come in one colour which is black, which would look perfect next to my laptop, as this was also black. The speakers claim to be reliable and easy to use, just plug and play! The speakers provide a crisp and clear sound through its shielded, satellite speakers and high excursion drivers. Boasting compatibility with PC's, CD players and MP3 players the sleek black audio system provides an exceptional audio experience. The Speakers are mainly black but do have a silver like cage surrounding the speaker which is the actual stand for the speaker. The silver cannot be removed from the speaker. The speakers are very modern and stylist looking and have a black shiny front to them. The right hand speaker has a volume control, headphone and microphone sockets. The left hand speak just has the Logitech logo on it. The speaker can be turned on and off by the volume control button which clicks when it's on. You can tell when the speakers are on as a green light will appear just underneath the volume control. When you turn this to the left and it clicks again, the light will disappear which means the speakers are turned off. The speakers come with a headphone jack so was really easy to plug into my laptop and also into my iPod as well.
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I purchased these from my local Argos store for £14.99; how-ever you can also purchase them from Amazon. Please note that prices may vary.
Using the Speakers
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I didn't need to set the speakers up before using them and I just plugged the jack into my laptop and turned the volume control to turn the speakers on. The volume dial is very easy to turn with minimum effort. When playing some music on my laptop from YouTube I often find some of the songs quieter than others so I have to turn the volume up a little. I also plug the jack into my iPod so I can listen to music straight from there without having to turn my laptop on. The music comes out of the speakers very clear and crisp without any other noises apart from the music itself. The cable to the speakers is a good length and isn't too long or too short which means it doesn't get tangled up with other leads. I have never had the volume to the speakers up to the loudest volume as the speakers go loud enough for me without the need to have it up any louder. As the speakers are left on my desk at home, they do get a little dusty and as they are black the dust shows quite a bit. A quick wipe with some polish and a duster gets rid of any dirt and they look as good as new again. I've had the speakers for just over a year and a half and I haven't experienced any problems with the speakers so far.
Overall Opinion
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I think these speakers are fantastic value for money as they are good quality and don't look cheap. The speakers are also long lasting and nothing has failed or gone wrong with them since I have had them. The speakers aren't too big which means they sit perfectly on the desk next to my laptop. I've never used the sockets on the front of the right speaker to listen to music through head-phones so I can't really comment on how good this is, how-ever I think it would be just a good quality as it would be when listening to music through the speakers. I have found these speakers so good that I also recommend these to my mum and she also purchased these about a year ago. As the speakers are plug and play she could do this herself ready to sue the speakers when she plays games on her desktop computer. My mum hasn't had any issues with the speakers either. I think these are fantastic speaker and I highly recommend them to others.
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* 2 x 3 Watt satellite speakers
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I bought these on sale in Argos costing £14.99 for the pair, reduced down from £19.99, as I was looking for affordable speakers to use when playing music on a laptop. I find that the built in speakers on my laptop sound quite tinny, so I wanted better sound quality when using Spotify and iTunes and also when watching films or TV on the laptop, as I often sit with my headphones in to do this!
I was attracted to these are they were on sale and I know that Logitech is a reputable brand. I have used microphones and webcams from Logitech before. The speakers are compatible with CD players and mp3 players as well as computers, so they are versatile. I have only been using them on my laptop so far but I am glad they are compatible with the ipod, as I prefer to use a headphone jack (like these speakers) than to put it in an ipod dock, as a cheap docking station damaged my old ipod.
=== Appearance ===
I think these speakers look great. They are very compact, at 16.3 cm high, 8.5cm wide and 8.1cm deep, so I am able to place them on top of a fairly small CD rack and I didn't have any problem finding a place for them. My old speakers are much bulkier. These are a shiny black with a silver frame and the design looks quite sleek, modern and minimal.
=== How to Use ===
The speakers need to be plugged into the mains, then attached to the computer via a headphone jack. I find this good as it does not take up a valuable USB port, because my laptop doesn't have so many ports and I like to plug in a mouse, my external harddrive, sometimes my camera or ipod, so USB ports can be in high demand!
=== Sound ===
These speakers sound great. There is none of the tinniness that I get when I play music directly from the laptop using the built in speakers. The sound is clear and full. Apparently they have "high excursion drivers" for clear audio, which didn't mean anything to me, but it must be doing its job! It is easy to adjust the volume with the large round dial on the front. There are no clear volume markings or numbers, so you just have to look at how far you have turned the dial but this is not a problem. You can turn the volume up pretty high - certainly high enough for any reasonable home use in my opinion.
=== Overall ===
For £15 I am really pleased with these speakers. The quality of sound is just as good as from a normal CD player and I am going to get another one to use on my smaller netbook upstairs! I have no complaints and I would highly recommend them.
These speakers were purchased for use with a laptop and to be honest given that they were only £14.99 reduced from £19.99 in Argos my expectations were not very high and in the end I was a little surprised and pleased that they actually exceeded those expectations which is good however given I did not extect a great deal that does not mean that the sound quality is particularly brilliant but the sound is certainly listenable to and there have been no issues regarding performance.
The speakers are functional rather than stylish in my opinion. They are easy to set up through a simple connection and they are also suitable for use with MP3 players as well. Each speaker has a seperate volume control, however this is the only thing you can adjust through the speakers, and two headphone slots. They are nice and portable as well and that is a plus as I would take them if on a weekend break to use with my ipod.
At lower levels the sound quality is pretty good, it lacks depth when it comes to the bass sounds but other than that at the lower and mid levels on the volume control the sound is pretty clear and importantly an improvement on the quality of sound from my laptop internal speaker. The volume does have a pretty good range, they can certainly be used if you are playing back ground music in a room with lots of people talking. However when you start to crank up the volume the quality of sound does deteriate quite a bit and it becomes a bit tinny and loses definition.
Overall if you are just looking for a cheap set of speakers then these are not bad. I can imagine them being suitable for someone at Uni in a small room who plays music through their laptop on spotify as they will certainly be able to cope with that sort of usage. These are worth considering so those who want a cheap option that will be reliable as I have had no problems with them at all.
I bought these speakers from Argos a few months back as I recently got bought a laptop. I was told that these were excellent computer/ 3.5mm speakers, which they are. They look nice, they sound good and most importantly they're not bank breaking. The speakers come in a box, properly packaged with a full instructions and information manual. Like most people, I didn't really read the information booklet (it's not rocket science :D) I found that they are quite easy to attach. You just insert the green lead into the headphone slot in your laptop, they fit all 3.5mm slots, so they would be easily accessible to ipods and phones. They can also be attached to TV's, however I find that TV speakers are pretty loud to begin with. My laptop is quite quiet so when these started playing my music very loudly, I was impressed. To be honest, I was expecting it to have a better bass, but like I stated in the title, they were reasonably cheap!
The speakers are black with a silver outline, an obvious speaker ring in the middle with a sleek, stylish design. The speakers have an adjustable volume controller with an additional headphone slot for attaching portable MP3 devices. The speakers are split into two separate pieces. I find, that this is very useful, and common for desk usage which delivers and equal sound. I don't see these speakers as being suitable for HD televisions, or as a high quality sound processor. When I was searching for speakers to buy, there were lots of choices, but as I had a budget, my choices were limited. When looking through the Argos catalog in store I noticed that these had a 4 star rating for sound quality. There were speakers that cost a lot more than this with a much lower sound quality star rating. However, lacking HD capability and fancy features and controls this sounded much more appealing price wise. I never hesitated when buying them, they were appropriate, sleek and they suit my room.
As far as the sound goes, it's not brilliant. However, it's not terrible. Modern technology these days is always changing, so in my personal opinion this is quite standard technology. I can't see these as being overly popular, but in people in my age group (teens) might appreciate the bargain and see it as loud is loud (I certainly do!) They do go quite loud, their not floor shakers but they are loud. I find that by putting my computer sound max and speaker sound low the sound is perfect for me. I often leave my music on overnight as it's calming. These have lasted me a few months now and I have not noticed any design or manufacturing faults to this date, and hope that they will last me a while.
Like I said, these cost £19.99 from Argos, but they are also available from local entertainment stores and Logitech online. The price may be considerably more depending on location and delivery. Overall, a good quality product, serving me well. Not recommended for outdoor and hall usage (sound might not be loud enough or high enough quality). Mostly recommended for home usage. A recommendation from me though, 4 stars! X x x
When my new PC arrived back about a year ago, the monitor that came with it didnt have built in speakers. I was on a tight budget but really wanted some decent sounding speakers for it. I saw these in a catalog, they looked nice, were cheap, and they had the feature that I wanted the most - A volume knob.
I've had them for a while now, the sound quality is really good, nice and crisp. They look just right next to my black pc and monitor. I listen to music quite alot and the sound is good from them. they don't have much bass but for a little extra you can buy the set with the subwoofer for the added bass if you really want.
The wires are quite long so you can arrange them how you want, but not *too* long so that you are left with a tangled mess to go with all the other wires you probably will have from the computer.
I would definately recommend getting these for the price, they sound really very good.
I first came across these speakers when looking for something relatively small and easy to transport when I moved into Halls of Residence at university. After pouring through the array of options available in every appropriate store, big ones that looked nice, small ones that looked cheap, weird shaped onces that were ridiculously overpriced... I finally found these ones. Logitech LS11. Small, sleek, mains powered speakers at a wonderfully affordable price.
Firstly, I was (as typical for an 18 year old girl I suppose) attracted by the aesthetics. A black rectangular speaker in a silver frame, with a 2inch high-excursion metallic driver on the front (giving it that hifi feel without the cost) and a blended in black knob for volume and power, was subtle enough to go unnoticed on my desk, (matched the silver laptop) and didnt look made of cheap and tacky plastic like many of the lower-value speakers around today. Since I bought them I've also seen them in the same black but with a very elegant white swirly flowery pattern in the top right hand corner, and with pink or blue frames instead of the silver as I purchased. Meaning these speakers can be found to suit most peoples style and decor.
Secondly, the quality attracted me - I have trusted many logitech computer products over the years, although invested in their speakers and felt that the quality we had received in the past was sure to continue into these products. Peak power at 6 watts was alot higher than even the more expensive speakers around it (particularly the novelty ones) and I was told by one of the shop employees that the sound system was, infact, as crystal clear as having been a far more expensive set. After using them for a few months I can guarantee the sound is almost entirely crystal clear, the volume entirely adequate for my room and even, on occassion, to cover a flat party - meaning a lot of power in these little beauties. And, despite some negative reports, I have not personally come across any issues with using this product.
The features were the final tempting aspect - I personally like to have speakers with an auxillary input, so I can plug in my ipod and suchlike (particularly useful for flat parties, as the speakers are small enough to be easily moved to the kitchen) and a headphone jack for easy use when trying to be more conspicuous. The other feature that mainly interested me was the cable management system, with all the cablehidden away, the only ones to deal with are the mains power supply, the aux cable and the cable connecting the two speakers. Particularly in a small room like mine at university, the idea of cables spilling everywhere is a nightmare and the handy design at the back of the speakers allow some of this excess to be wound away to clear up the desk. All in all, perfect for my needs.
Finally, the price. At RRP £14.99, it is definitely at the bottom end of the speaker pricings, but it rivals even my full hifi system at home for quality and clarity and volume is more than adequate.
Overall I'd recommend these speakers as a quality set of speakers for use at a desk or in a kitchen, or anywhere where you dont want to entertaing every room in the house, and for an entirely reasonable price what can go wrong? Definitely worth a go!
Working as a tutor and relying heavily on powerpoint and video presentations to aid my lessons I always need a pair of reliable speakers to be able to plug into the tower deck of my computer to accompany the presentation. When my trusty previous pair which lasted me over 5 years broke down beyond repair recently I went out to by a new pair and after recommendations from work mates and online went for the Logitech LS11 set.
I have used a wide range of Logitech products in the past, mainly their line of video gaming products, and after good experiences on those counts had no problems trusting the brand again. Also ordering for £18 off amazon I thought this was a very fair price especially considering the daily use they receive.
The first thing that hit me when I removed them from the box and began to assemble them in my classroom was how stylish they looked, certainly more stylish than more expensive products I have been looking at and they look every bit the price thus giving off a good impression. I am sure as well they will look equally as good in any living room PC or next to a music docking station. The black and silver design with subtle markings as seen in the picture thus makes the speakers aesthetically pleasing,
They can be used with a variety of products including standard hifi's, pc's and even portable music devices. Ideally though they are designed for use with PC's. You can even use them as a docking station for an ipod to play songs through there or any other MP3 player and there is a headphone jack too if you need to keep the noice down.
At 3 watts the sound is not going to rival the speakers likely to be with your current hi fi or tv unit so don't consider them as an out and out replacement for that purpose. The sound is crisp, clear and even at the loudest it stays consistent and is perfectly suitable for use with a personal PC, or as I use them, to play to a class of 20 or so clients.
I have used these for around 5 weeks now on a daily basis and have no issues so far, they are light and portable which is ideal for moving around the office and it is a breeze to set them up and get going. An all together hassle free experience.
The price helps too and I wouldn't look much further for a simple, cheap set of PC speakers!
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I bought these speakers for my PC after years of using a cheap Mikomi set. And so after doing a bit of searching I came across these. Now these what these speakers lack in bass they make up for with there sleek design and overall functionality
As you can tell these speakers look very stylish and sleek with the clean piano black finish and silver stand, also they are a perfect fit on a small desktop.
As for there functionality there is the headphone jack and another nice little feature is the MP3 player Input allowing you to use the speakers like the speakers in a docking station
Although these speakers can be used for larger electronics such as TV's unfortunately these really aren't a great replacement for a proper 2.1 or surround sound. These are just primarily good PC speakers which allow you to listen to music without any cracking
There is only one problem I have with these speakers is that occasionally the sound from one speaker will just disappear just to come back a minute later. Its not a ruinous fault just a noticeable one
Overall If you want some competent affordable speakers you cant go to wrong with these
Logitech LS11
My partner and his friends are DJ's....apparantly. My definition of their so called ''DJing'' is them sitting around MY laptop during the football, darts, snooker etc. and mixing their own tracks! I was on the fence about what I was more sick of hearing, their creations or their constant moaning about how crackly my laptop speakers made their music!... The CHEEK! After a while of thinking it over, I realised that no matter what, there was not a chance that I was going to stop them playing it but I could stop the constant drone of their moaning, so off I popped to my local Argos store to buy a decent but fairly priced pair of speakers (no way was I going to pay a fortune for something that was going to destroy my hearing and my sanity!).
Taking a quick flick through the in store catalogue my eyes settled on a set but even though they were cheap, they didn't look too easy on the eye. A further glance down the page brought me to these Logitech LS11 speakers for just under £18.00. Rather nice, so off I went and purchaced them.
Taking them home, I couldn't get near them for a good few hours as I was pounced on nearly as soon as I walked through the door to see what I had bought, as soon as my partner seen the box, he scrambled to get to it, took it and that was the last I seen of him or the speakers until later that night! (I still heard them though - amplified!!).
When I did finally get to them, my first impressions were that even though they were a bargain price, this was not reflected in the quality. The speakers themselves looked rather sleek and shiny, black with a silver metal frame surrounding them which also formed the base. On the left speaker was the Logitech Logo and situated on the right speaker, is the volume control button and headphone jack, which shows that they have evolved with the times as some speakers that actually allowed you to perform this, used to house it at the back which was rather a pain, this is much handier.
The speakers are easy to assemble, even though I didn't personally see them for dust during this phase, the box was left lying around for me to dispose of so I was able to get a quick peek at the instructions. Basically, two wires coming from one of the speakers, one into the computer, one into the other speaker and away you go!!!
As far as sound performance goes, I am not the best at explaining but I will give it a go in my terms!!!.... Loud, Crisp and Clear! (Sorry!).
Overall for the price that you pay for them, they are well worth a shot, I know that they must be decent because even I can understand some of the lyrics coming from them, trust me that is an art when you have to listen to what I have to. Even with the music coming from them at full blast for 99% of the time, I have never noticed any fading, crackling, loss of volume or any other signs of problems,
These speakers can be bought from Argos for around £18.00 or even better, on amazon.co.uk within the vacinity of £10.00!!! Even better!
I chose these speakers after a long time choosing the right speakers and i found it difficult because speakers are either really expensive or really cheap with no sound quality. These were £17 when I bought them and look very nice and neat they are black and silver and would go with most desktop computers. They produce a very good sound for the price you pay and we are very pleased with them. It was easy to get to work you just plugged them in and they worked. It was the same brand as our webcam witch we are also pleased with. I would recomend these speakers to someone who dosn't know very much about the technical things about producing good sound because you do get good quality from these. On one of the speakers they have a standard earphone placement that works and I can't see them breaking anytime soon and i use them everyday well i hope they don't. Just one thing though the plastic cover were you turn the volume up and down does come off easily when you play with the volume. It is simple to put back on again and press it back on and it has only happened once and it didn't break it.


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Suave Naturals Body Wash Reviews
SuaveThis product is a good value. They have a nice selection of scents and it lathers well, and does not dry out the skin. You can find it for cheap almost anywhere. I just wish they would bring back their water lily fragrance-- it was heavenly, and I used it exclusively for years. I miss it! — 6 years, 5 months agoLittleBunny | 545 reviews
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Love itThis body wash I can get for a dollar and it lasts a long time. Cleans skin and leaves it smelling and feeling great with only a small amount, it's really a great buy, I've tried every scent and I just love to match them up with similar scented lotions. — 7 years, 8 months agoBon_Bon | 522 reviews
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averagethis is a great body wash. it foams nicely and the smell lingers after my shower. I noticed my skin was moisturized, but soon after it was dry again. its not long lasting. — 6 years, 9 months agokenya | 504 reviews
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Am I reviewing the same product?I am definately a beauty on a budget! But I was not too impressed with this product. I tried the Mandarin scented wash and it was sort of globby - each time I use it, I squeeze just a little, and a whole bunch comes out. It is sort of like a stiff, clumpy gel. It does leave my skin a little on the drier side, but that really isn't even my main complaint. I didn't like the consistency (it ends up m...read moreaking me go through the product too much) or the amount of lather. By the time I am 3/4 done in the shower, the lather is gone and I have to add even more. The smell is okay; I can smell it on me after the shower. The price is okay - I paid $1.97, but another reviewer said $1. I'd like to know where she purchased it, because for a $1 it is completely worth it, but for $2, I can pay just a dollar more and get a better quality product. My all time favorite body wash is by Olay, I think it is called Winter Dry Skin, or something like that, but it is almost $7, but is at least twice as much product, and considerably better quality. — 7 years, 4 months agopixie_dust | 492 reviews
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bad move mommy mom got this bc when she smelled it it smelled'so good' i personally think it smells weird [mango mandrin] and makes my skin feel weird — 6 years, 9 months agoaly7 | 396 reviews
Better than some of super expensive body wash!I purchased their Suave Naturals Body Wash: Ocean Breeze, which has very clean and refreshing scent. Unfortunately it does not feel moisturized in the way that some other rich body wash provide, but considering the inexpensive price and the generous size, this is "better-than-expected" body wash! — 9 years, 2 months agoluckybetty | 895 reviews
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Rinses CleanI thought this body wash smelled heavenly and lathered nicely to rinse clean away but it really didn't make me feel moisturized. With my dry skin. I guess I need more than a gel formula for shaving my legs. I felt like it was a cheap drugstore way of cleaning my body, but no more than that. — 5 years, 7 months agoleo1999 | 678 reviews
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Smells so good!I love all the different scents it comes in, and I don't have to spend alot!!! Talk about bang for your buck!!! — 8 years, 5 months agodarkangel81 | 302 reviews
works just fineIf you want something affordable, I'm sure you can find a scent you like. This is a basic body wash with nothing fancy about it. I've used it multiple times and had no major issues. I prefer natural products but I'm not opposed to using this. — 6 years, 8 months agopure.life | 331 reviews
Nice scentI had the one in Ocean Breeze. There's nothing spectacular about this body wash. It's very liquidy but doesn't dry out the skin. Very refreshing scent. Great value for the price. — 3 years, 2 months agopiggysuperchi | 208 reviews
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I've not seen anyone mention this topic. I was officially diagnosed late Nov w/ cc, but started experiencing occasional night sweats before the actual diagnosis. The night sweats still continue. Some nights I wake & change my sweat-drenched shirt 3,4, 5 times a night. Anyone else w/ same symptoms ? Has anyone heard of anything to minimize this annoyance ?
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A BIKE push from Blue Anchor to Dunster Beach took place on Sunday (December 29) to help support the quest for a bike trail along the West Somerset coastline.
It was organised by the Friends of the Steam Coast Trail.
The Steam Coast Trail is a multi-user path planned for West Somerset open to pedestrians, cyclists, wheelchair-users and mobility scooters.
Planning permission has already been granted for the section linking Dunster Beach with Blue Anchor but the group are hoping the rest of the route can be planned.
Judy Mapledoram helped to organise the bike push. She said: "We want to create a cycle path to make it easier for people to cycle from Watchet and Minehead and also along Dragon's Cross to Washford and the Mineral Line.
"At the moment you can't cycle there without avoiding the A39 and it can be dangerous.
"It would be great for everyone, families especially, and it would mean avoiding the main road.
"We came up with the idea of a bike push to get our supporters together and to create a fuss about it.
"There was a great turn out and people were very keen, we were lucky with the weather, it was great."
After pushing their bikes along to Dunster Beach they were able to cycle up to Dunster and then back along to Carhampton.
For more information about the trail visit www.steam-coast-trail.net.


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Better People Photos with a Digital Camera
Julie Govan is the Brand Manager at Crutchfield, and has been writing about consumer electronics since 1999. Her areas of expertise include home theater, surround sound, digital cameras, and HDTV. In her spare time, she also writes book reviews and fiction. She earned a B.A. in English from Davidson College, and went on to receive a master's degree in English literature from the University of Virginia.
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Heads up!Welcome to this article from the Crutchfield archives. Have fun reading it, but be aware that the information may be outdated and links may be broken.
I have a Nikon digital SLR, and I use it a lot. But I'm not that experienced at what I still think of as "real" photography -- in fact, my current digital SLR was my first experience with manual exposure and focus and so on. And I still shoot on automatic a lot of the time.
Yet people have started asking me to photograph them, for their websites, or when they need some pro-quality photos for business. Is it my innate artistic talent? No. Is it that they're crazy? Well, maybe. But mainly I think it's because I've stumbled onto something very effective: Get close to the subject.
Basically, when people are the subject of the picture, I try to get them to fill the frame. My uncles are smoking cigars at a family wedding and laughing at each other? I don't back off so I can capture the rooftop patio scene around them -- I capture just them, clipping the back of one uncle's chair and the edge of another uncle's elbow. They burst out of the picture with a lot more energy that way. And I'm not afraid to take close-ups of head and shoulders alone -- that brings a lot more attention to a person's eyes and smile, for a more arresting photograph.
I didn't realize how well this worked until digital photos arrived and I started to crop high-resolution photos however I wanted, at my computer, and then erase the effect and start over. Before that, I'd been taking more typical photos: two friends, standing and smiling in front of a vast landscape of rolling hills, completely out of place against the greenery. I wasn't doing justice to the scenery or the people.
Nowadays, I don't try to get people in stunning landscape shots -- and I certainly don't try to force a landscape into my people pictures! All I need is a small part of the surroundings to get a sense of what was going on, and then I can focus, no pun intended, on what's going on in the people's bodies and faces.
Obviously, there are all kinds of ways to get even more effective people photos, like shooting on your camera's Portrait mode, which leaves the subject in focus but blurs the scene behind him or her, or getting a lens for your SLR which is optimized for portraiture (I have my eye on a 90mm macro lens for that purpose). But what has made the most immediate difference for me is this "get close" approach. So I'm passing it on.


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To satisfy his late father's wishes, hot and single billionaire Michael Conte must find a bride - someone who will fit into his traditional family back home in Italy - and fast, so his engaged sister will be allowed to wed. With no intention of being tied down, Michael "proposes" to fiery, free-spirited photographer Maggie Ryan: If she will play the part of his fiancée during her trip to Milan for a photo shoot, he will keep away from her married best friend, Alexa, and stop making Maggie nuts with their too-close-for-comfort flirtations.
But once in Italy, sexual tension sparks the hottest no-strings-attached arrangement on any continent. Could marriage be the most enticing trap of all?
©2012 Jennifer Probst (P)2012 Simon & Schuster
Busy mom who loves to read but doesn't always have the time. I enjoy YA, Romance and the occasional Best Seller.
"Another Simple romance, but I liked it"
She did it again!
If you're looking for a simple romance book to burn a few hours of your time, then this one is for you. Like the first book the story is a little unbelievable and completely predictable but I still enjoyed it. I liked the narrator too.
Looking forward to the next installment.
I ignore genre labels. Some of my favorite books are outside my genre comfort zone. Listening to audiobooks is still reading. Not theater.
"This Woman Can Write - Give Her A Real Plot"
This is the second book I have read by this author and the second I have reviewed. I've never done this before. They are the epitome of chick-lit romance. They come across as light and fluffy. The whole "Marriage to a Billionaire" tag line screams "shallow".
But the author has a way with words and a great sense of humor. Even though the plot in this book, just like in the first, is totally implausible, the characters that move the story forward are totally believable - if you take away the "billionaire" part, the repetitive fake marriage plot and the disconnected issues with the language - the American character uses Italian slang and only some of the Italian characters use any Italian and then only rarely. They sound like they are from Chicago.
The characters are complex, sympathetic, quirky and funny. Several of them have unexpected depth.
With just a little push, the author could become a really great talent. She doesn't have to give up the romance or chick-lit genre, she just needs to make her plot more plausible and realistic. Her characters are ready for it.
I enjoyed the narrator as well.
"Not worth a credit"
I might have enjoyed this more with a better narrator. I found the narration to be flat and poorly phrased, and the "heroine"'s voice was deeper than that of the "hero". The story itself was predictable and cliched, and the heroine not very likable. I won't read any others in this series.
I really enjoy the world of books! Narration just add layers to that world... don't u think? :)
"Sooo Good!"
I love how two of my fave characters from book 1 gets together. I didn't know Maggie was so messed up though, which made this book even better. Michael was awesome and the narrator really did a good job for all the characters. I could tell the difference between each and every character. Worth the credit.
I love being swept away by a new romance and thankfully Audible's ever growing Library means I get to indulge myself over and over again
"Very enjoyable and romantic chic/lit"
As with the previous book in the Marriage To a Billionaire series called The Marriage Bargain, this second book was fun, entertaining, sexy and was filled with lots of interesting characters who all had such great chemistry between each other - including the main characters Maggie, a successful photographer, and Michael, a Billionaire playboy, who have a love/hate relationship going on. You also hear how Alexa and Nicholas are doing from book 1.
Maggie has now passed on the spell book to Michael's sister Carina and it's her story next in The Marriage Mistake but we have to wait until November for it.
Worth a credit? Yes, pure romantic escapism.
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"Met Expectations"
I really believe that this book was just as entertaining and thought provoking as the first. This book was just what I expected. I would recommed this book to anyone. My only suggestion is to read the Marriage Bargain first for some background of the two main characters.
Mrs. B
"Nice Continuation"
Nice Read, I enjoyed it as much as the first book. Predictable but cute. Has funny moments that I really enjoyed.
I liked it as much as Crossfires. They are all in the catagorys like 50 Shades of Gray.
It was well rounded. The author makes a smooth transition from the Marriage Bargain to this book.
It was "quippy" enjoyable and serious.
I am not a big one to explain a lot about a book. I just have to say I get bored very easily on books and this writter/story is entertaining and I hope there are more to come.
"3 easy reasons"
Three reasons I didn't like this book: 1) Main female is obnoxious. 2) All the women seem hysterical. 3) Hysterical and obnoxious female characters.
I love all genres of books. However, when I listen to audio books as I clean, garden, drive they are better with a lot of heat!
"A Steamy and Fun Read"
The Marriage Trap by Jennifer Probst is passionately sexy and emotionally compelling. Mia Amore! It sure did surpass my expectations.
I won't reiterate the plot; I think the synopsis does a fine job of that.
I loved the characters in this book, Michael is the kind of guy dreams are made of; Handsome, loyal, family oriented, compassionate a guy with a big heart. Maggie is my kinda girl; strong, independent, feisty and sassy to the end.
Together Michael and Maggie were dynamite; their chemistry was scorching HOT!
I loved the Conte family dynamics in this book, the strong family ties worked well in moving along the plot.
"Great book"
Just the audible version had background static. It was distracting. Great series in all. Loved it.
"Love spell two"
Following on from the Marriage Bargain this book continues the story of strong women trying a love spell for fun and getting their hearts desire
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