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|Trad, 6 pitches, 600', Grade II
|YDS: 5.7+ French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b [details]
|Mark Limage, Chris Burton 2001
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|Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi? on Nov 19, 2005
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By John Wilder
From: Las Vegas, NV
Nov 20, 2005
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
This route is easily rappelled with a single 70m, and I highly suspect that a single 60m would work as well, but havent attempted it yet.
By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From: Vegas
Nov 20, 2005
|I don't think a single 60 meter rope will reach from atop pitch 2's anchors down to pitch one's anchors, and if you came up short you'd have to downclimb one of two chimneys.
By Matt Faust
Nov 22, 2005
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
I'm 95% sure that we rapped straight from the P3 belay to the P1 belay with a single 60, and only had to downclimb a short bit of that easy chimney. It worked very well for us.
This route is great, love the 2nd and 3rd pitches.
By Jason D. Martin
Nov 22, 2005
There are three variations for the second pitch. The first variation is that which is described. The second is to climb the chimney -- which I think is a lot more fun than the face -- and the third is to climb the arete to the left of the chimney.
I have never climbed the arete. Does anyone know how hard it is?
It is NOT possible to rappel pitch five with a sixty meter rope. Both the first and the second pitch require downclimbing with a single sixty as well.
The sixth pitch is not worth doing.
Lastly, many parties blast up Birdland and ignore the Bighorn handcrack off to the left. The crack pitch of Bighorn is well worth doing while you're up there.
By Matt Faust
Nov 23, 2005
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|Oops, Jason you jogged my memory. Above I said we rapped from P3 to P1, but that's obviously not true. I remember lusting after the Big Horn handcrack, but it looked pretty tough from my vantage. How hard is that crack, Jason?
By Jason D. Martin
Nov 25, 2005
The Bighorn Crack is 5.8.
By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From: Vegas
Dec 9, 2005
|What is the correct name of Joe Herbst's route? Is it The Big Horn or The Bighorn? I've seen it written both ways . If I have it wrong in my description, I apologize.
By phil broscovak
Dec 12, 2005
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|Birdland is a totally fabulous route! One of my favorite routes in RR. Jorge Urioste took our kids on a nature hike so Julia and I could relax and enjoy the climb. I don't know if my ankle-biting rug rats will ever fully appreciate what an honor it was to be tour guided by a legend, but Julia and I still break into perma-grins thinking about that day. THANK YOU Jorge! The finger crack on the fifth pitch is not to be missed! The belay stance is wild. I can only imagine the sphincter puckering that took place when whatever stood atop the triangle ledge cut loose. It is totally clean and scenic now. Jorge told me the fourth pitch while easy was unprotected. Probably because most of the hard cores just 3rd class through it. On the other hand I was able to essentially lace it up with decent gear every fifteen feet or less. Probably because I am anything but hard core. The climbing on every pitch of Birdland is aesthetic and varied. This climb is a real treat for the senses. Be careful running and pulling rap ropes around pitch three.
By Michael Allen
Jan 30, 2006
If you don't have a 70m rope, and you don't want to bring a second rope for the rappels, it is possible to get down with one 60m rope if you don't mind a little minor downclimbing.
(Disclaimer: I didn't climb the sixth pitch but the Brock/McMillen book says it's only 80 feet long so a 60m would be more than adequate if that's true.)
Anyhow, here's how we did it from the anchor at the top of pitch five:
From P5 anchor I rapped straight down the face towards the P4 anchor. When I reached the knots I'd tied in the rope ends I was just a couple feet above the P4 anchor bolts. I easily reached down and clipped myself straight in to one of the bolts. I then took myself off rappel and stepped down to the P4 belay stance.
From P4 anchor to P3 anchor the rope reached easily.
From P3 anchor to the large ledge with the P2 anchor the rope again reached easily.
From the P2 anchor I rapped down and into the chimney that is the start of the second pitch of The Big Horn route. I took myself off rappel about ten feet shy of the large P1 belay ledge. From there it was an easy, unexposed downclimb to the ledge.
From the anchors atop P2 I rapped straight down towards the base of the climb. Again I had to take myself off rappel about ten feet shy of the ground, but once again it was an easy, unexposed downclimb to reach the ground.
(Reminder: Don't forget to tie stopper knots in the rope ends before each rappel!)
By Tim Baguley
Feb 1, 2006
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|Route may be safely rappelled with a 70m rope. You can also rap the route with a single 60m rope, but you will need to do a bit of down-climbing (or reaching out to clip into anchor bolts from the bottom of the rope) on a couple pitches...I don't recommend this for inexperienced climbers. If you do rap the route with a 60m rope, MAKE SURE TO TIE STOPPER KNOTS in the end of the rope!
By marc rosenthal
From: Canyon Lake, TX
Feb 21, 2006
|Regarding the Bighorn pitch on the left: This is a great pitch with big moves and good pro. However, above the pitch is one of the worst anchor stations I have ever seen. There is a two/three bolt set up with a hanger on one side and no hanger on the other. Due to the location of the hanger and the nearest natural pro, it is better to set pro in the rock than use the anchor, since it is hard to equalize. If anyone knows if this anchor has been improved, please update.
By Anthony Anagnostou
From: nyc
Mar 7, 2006
The beta in the new fat red guidebook is a little off, I think, on P4. It says to look for a right-facing corner by a roof, where I think most climbers would refer to that feature as a crack (by a roof).
There is an obvious anchor with slings almost directly above the P3 belay. This is not the Birdland anchor, so stay right as per route description. The P4 anchor isn't visible until you're over a bulge and almost to it.
Very catchy route for rapping.
By karl g wilcox
From: las vegas, NV
Apr 10, 2006
|Bighorn should really be considered a Red Rock 5.9. Good pro, but a bit thin to qualify for a 5.8. Cheers, Karl Wilcox
By James R. Arnold
Apr 15, 2006
Climbed this route last week with Joe Chorny. We only had the Swain book (which doesn't have Birdland) so had to use this website to get info on the route. The pictures and description here allowed us to find the base of the route but honestly the info on the 4th and 5th pitches is misleading and could use improvement.
From the top of the third pitch the route moves more than slightly right - it is more like 20-30 feet right. Look up and right for black varnished face holds. Slightly up and right from the belay peters out into unprotectable face climbing on less than inspiring white/orange rock. The P4 belay can not be seen until about 15 feet from it. There was very little chalk on this pitch to give hint of being on route. A good amount of gear can be had on this pitch.
On pitch 5 do not go up and left. From that belay one can see white slings on an anchor about 30-40 feet left (mentioned in previous post here). This anchor is for a new route and not Birdland. It turns out the FA person on that route (Karl Wilcox) was there that day and told us where to go on Birdland's 5th pitch. From the belay look up and right 60 feet or more for a light brown 2-3 ft roof (about 20-30 feet to the right of the belay). Birdland goes just left of the edge of that roof and the nice crack is above that and out of sight.
Overall the route was pretty good - we'd give it 2-2.5 stars. For grade 7+ is reasonable. There felt like there were a couple of 8 moves on the route - one on the third pitch past the bolt and the last move on pitch 5 but the rest was 6 or 7.
By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From: Vegas
Apr 15, 2006
Thanks for your beta. I will be sure to update the info. for pitch 4 and 5, but will first try to consult with Mark Limage (FA of Birdland) in order to be as accurate as we can.
Or... if one more climber, familiar with Birdland can attest to your beta, I'll change it right away.
My poor partner led pitch 4, and I know he (and probably others) would have liked more pro opportunities on that pitch, such as beta that you have described.
Interesting about new routes by Birdland; you sneaky climbers, you!!
And Silly James...there's no "8" moves on this climb,.....(:])
By phil broscovak
Apr 16, 2006
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Hello Gigette,
I would agree that both pitch 4 and pitch 5 involve significant movement to the right. Of the two, pitch 4 traverses the furthest right. If you were to drop plumb bobs from the start and end points of pitch 4 it would easily be 25 feet or more. I have led that pitch twice and have found sufficient good gear to feel fairly at ease. It is an up and over route and gear finding adventure. Yes there are spans of no pro but by tying together discontinuous cracks with tricams, wired stoppers and long slings(perhaps double ropes to reduce drag)it is a safe pitch. I really think it is a great pitch if you are looking around with an open eye. Pitch 5 does start out going up and right to the "cool" crack in the roof and the abondanza above.
And I personally would endorse an overall 5.8 rating for the route.
As a side comment to all, rap how you will but know how to handle a stuck rope. This climb has a practical joker's sense about its ability to catch ropes. This route is popular so use caution when yanking stuck ropes off of flakes.
By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From: Vegas
Apr 16, 2006
Thanks Phil and James!
At the time my partner and I climbed route, we had little information on pitches 3-6. Neither of us had done Birdland before. We were actually planning on climbing 'Big Horn' that day, but was not looking forward to the sustained nature of that beautiful "old school" Joe Herbst route.
Re: Birdland..pitches 4 and 5, we took a fairly direct line (only traversed slightly right on pitch 4, and on pitch 5, I did end up right at the fun, beautiful fingercrack section. Looks like there are more pro opportunities per your beta of Birdland's pitch 4 and 5.
I'll have to climb route again, using your beta to see if I'll still award it 4 stars, as there is quite a bit of traversing and more of a wandery nature to Birdland's upper pitches(4 and 5)than what my partner and I did.
By James R. Arnold
Apr 16, 2006
|Thanks for updating the description Gigi - this should help future parties on the route. I guess since you can call me "silly" I can call you "Gigi"?
By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From: Vegas
Apr 16, 2006
You got me all excited to do Birdland again, but Big Horn is next on my list if I'm up that way.
I was able to do the first two pitches of Big Horn,after work with Jonny, which was long after I had done B.L.(B.T.W.,That's when Jonny took that "Gigi" photo of me above on first pitch).I did Birdland with another partner of mine. Since my nickname is out in the open now, you can proceed to call me Gigi, silly James.
P.S. Big Horn does look thin and 5.9ish, as Karl mentioned above, but that's an old school Joe Herbst route for ya! If anyone has done Big Horn, can you write up a description on it?
By George Bell
From: Boulder, CO
Apr 19, 2006
|Rather than replace the old description of the top pitches, I'd prefer that it remain described as a variation. Or maybe add it as a separate route "Birdland Variation". It's nice to know what all the options are.
By James R. Arnold
Apr 21, 2006
The route info Phil and I provided is the true route for Birdland and as such should be reflected in the main description. When the new route is completed to the left (at 5.7+ so says Karl the FA person) then it can be described as a variation.
Gigi - on the main description at some point it should be consolidated and mention of lowly me can be removed. It is not like I'm an authority on RR. Perhaps after you climb Birdland again you can update the description as you see fit.
By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From: Vegas
Apr 21, 2006
Sounds good James about consolidating later on (after I climb it again, and after Karl's new route listed for variation to B.L.).
P.S. You're not silly anymore.
By Ron Olsen
From: Boulder, CO
Apr 25, 2006
An ultra-classic route that will become extremely popular once word gets out. Climb it now before the crowds arrive!
There is a well-cairned trail all the way up to the route. At the end, sneak left under a big chockstone next to the wall to get to a spacious ledge system below the climb. The landmark for the route is the scrub oak on a ledge about 110' up, and a crack with lots of face holds that goes straight up to the right side of the tree.
I thought the first pitch was very easy; it felt more like 5.4 or 5.5 with all the face holds around the crack.
The anchor atop the second pitch is a knotted sling and quick link attached to two offset bolts. The equalization on this anchor isn't perfect for rappelling; it needs to be fixed. Another quick link (or rap rings) should be added. Even better, put chains on the bolts.
The revised route description is spot on; we had no trouble staying on route on the 4th and 5th pitches. Ample chalk marks the way. The crux of the climb is the last move to the belay on the fifth pitch: thin cracks and a smooth varnished face (5.7+ to 5.8). The rest of the climb is enjoyable 5.5 to 5.7. We didn't do the sixth pitch.
A 70m rope is the way to go, with fewer rappelling hassles than two ropes. Be careful pulling the rope from the anchor atop the second pitch to avoid getting the rope hung up in the chimney.
By Ron Olsen
From: Boulder, CO
Apr 25, 2006
|P2 rap anchor discussion moved to Birdland P2 Rappel Anchor.
By Bill Gibbs
From: Wichita, Ks.
Oct 27, 2006
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
A better description for the approach would be to disregard the standard approach for Brass Wall. Instead, continue on the main trail and after you have passed Brass Wall "Left", and started the switchbacking for Darkshadows area, look for a couple of huge, light colored boulders with darker spots all over them. Near those boulders look for a trail off to the right and follow the cairns.
My partner and I got rained off just as I was 15' out on the 4th pitch lead, so we didn't get to finish the route. However, the first 3 pitches are well worth climbing again and I will go back next time out and finish it. The Bighorn crack pitch looks super and hope to get on that as well.
On the 3rd pitch, the traverse to and past the bolt sews up great with small aliens. I remember a perfect blue alien placement under a solid flake to get past the bad "splat" swing potential before clipping the bolt. You should probably be solid at 5.8 leading on this pitch, have a strong lead head, or just don't look back before clipping the bolt if you can't sew it up.
Be careful on the rope eating rappels. Had to re-climb and down climb half of pitch 2 because of stuck rope on rappel.
By Jason C.
From: Las Vegas
Dec 4, 2006
|great route... lot of fun, fight for p. 5!!! get there early to beat the crowds... the route is getting very popular!
By karl wilcox
From: Cleburne,Texas
Feb 12, 2007
|Just a suggestion to anyone who finds that they can't get on Birdland due to crowding (and the crowding can get quite heavy) Rawlpindi is a nice alternative, and it is not really a variation to Birdland as it follows an independent line to the left. The climbing is similar, but protecting the 4th pitch takes a bit of ingenuity with placing cams in pods and pockets between the bolts. Someone may want to put some lap links on the rap anchors on Rawlpindi, as I placed the current grey slings about 9 months ago--
By Locker
From: Yucca Valley, CA
Mar 15, 2007
what an absolutly fun as hell route!!!...
no hard moves what so ever, but a few moves requiring a little thought...
Pitch three is blast!!!...
By Brandt Allen
From: Joshua Tree, Cal
Mar 15, 2007
Just to confirm what others have said, a single 60 meter rope is fine for this route. The only difficulties are stretching the first rap down to the top of pitch 4 and down-climbing the last ten feet to the top of pitch 2. Neither situation is serious enough to justify a second rope.
A great route; every pitch is excellent!
By Josh Audrey
From: LAS VEGAS
Mar 15, 2007
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|no doubt this was a fun day.if you are even considering doing cat in the hat, blow it off and take a ride up birdland way more fun. my friend and i headed up today and heard a traffic jam up at cat and the hat while we were chillin at a nice pace with nobody else above or below us.great moderate climb.
By Barry Collins
Mar 28, 2007
|Just back from Red Rocks and a run up the "Bird". Beautiful route! In anticipation of the expected rope stretching 60 meter rap off the last pitch, I did the following: Tied a corda-lette to the anchors at the top of pitch 4, then I led up about 10 ft. and used a nut to "fix" the corda-lette to the bottom of the pitch 5 finger crack. Then on the rap, I simply reached over, clipped into the corda-lette, ran the rap knots right up against my rap device (use beefy knots and a biner through them). Still had to go inverted to reach the bolts though!!! Climbing down the 3 moves to the bolts is easy too. Bottom line is go with the 60 meter rope if that's what you have!!! Follow Bill's advice on the approach, worked well for us.
By Floridaputz
From: Oakland Park, Florida
Oct 10, 2007
|Fun Climb, the crack on the third pitch, and final crack on pitch 5 are the highlights of the climb. Just enough to keep you interested. Very easy approach for RR. Just another great RR 5.7
By Aerili
From: Los Alamos, NM
Nov 24, 2007
My partner and I rapped this with a single 60 m and it was no problem (we took the Michael Allen comments as good to go, and they were!). If you can lead this climb, you can easily downclimb the two short sections of 5.4/5.5 on the last two raps; they both are only about 7-10 feet of secure and easy moves. I don't see the point in hauling a second rope for this route.
This route was very good; my only wish is that there had been more sustained climbing at the upper end of the grade on most of the pitches.
By Karsten Duncan
From: Sacramento, CA
Jan 21, 2008
I was a little disappointed after all the fanfare this route gets. Still, a nice route in a really cool place with some great moves for a 5.7. Even though I know everything on this route has been yarded on I felt the route still had that fragile feeling (I won't be soloing it anytime soon).
If your squeemish there is one "close call" rappel if your using a 60m up high but I found the other belays to be quite easy to navigate a downclimb.
Oh, and be sure and get your own copy of the guidebook photo on the second to last pitch fingercrack.
By raygay
From: Las Vegas, Nevada
Mar 9, 2008
|Birdland is becoming more and more popular. On nice days you are likely to have company. You can avoid rapping down onto parties climbing P4 and P5 below you by continuing past the P5 anchor to the nearby anchor at the top of Rawlpindi. Instead of stopping on the small slanted shelf on Birdland's P5 anchor, continue up and left about 40 feet to the Rawlpindi 2-bolt anchor (after checking to be sure no one is coming up Rawlpindi) and belay your follower at the Rawlpindi anchor. It's a one rope rappel to the next 2-bolt anchor below on Rawlpindi. Then use two ropes to rappel down to the anchor on the little ledge at the top of Birdland's P3.
By Greg Barnes
Apr 12, 2008
|marc rosenthal - vegastradguy and I replaced the Big Horn anchor this February (2008).
By climber73
From: Fort Collins, CO
Nov 5, 2008
|Don't forget the thin gear. Bring small stoppers and small tcus if you're close to your limit.
By Bruce Bindner
Nov 27, 2008
Topos of this route are hard to find, so I posted one here. Comments and corrections are appreciated.
By Ron Graham
Jan 30, 2009
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Stay alert when you are on pitch 4 if there are climbers above you. A couple that did the 6th pitch accidentally trundled one of the loose stones up there past us. It would have been deadly if it had hit anyone. For this reason, I'd suggest not trying to do the 6th pitch if you have any other teams climbing below you.
The stances at the top of the first 4 pitches are big enough to comfortably fit a group of 3 climbing together. However, the small, triangular shelf at the top of pitch 5 is only big enough for two people, and becomes pretty tight for the two of them when flaking the rope and setting up a rappel.
You can rap each pitch with a single 70M rope, but given that you must do some traversing and searching to find the anchors at the top of pitches 3 and 4, it would be wise to tie the ends of the rope and/or use an autoblock during your rappel.
By slim
Feb 2, 2009
|you suggest not climbing the 6th pitch if there are parties climbing below you? perhaps they should have woke up earlier, or maybe picked a different route?
By John Wilder
From: Las Vegas, NV
Feb 6, 2009
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|i would suggest that no one climb the 6th pitch...ever. its loose, crappy climbing that doesnt serve any purpose. stop at the top of 5, which also happens to be the best pitch on the route.
By Wolfski Wolf
From: slc, ut
Apr 14, 2009
|did this with one 60 meter rope. Not recommended but was able to pull it off with a sketchy rap on Pitch 5 (required reaching down and clipping into anchors on pitch 4, maybe extend your rappel device and this will help). then required about 10 feet of easy down climbing to get to pitch 1 anchors.
By J. Albers
From: Colorado
May 13, 2009
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
I have tried rappelling with a single 60m rope and it didn't work....even with a 190lb person on the end to aid with rope stretch. Rapping from the top of pitch 5 left my partner dangling 4-5 above the anchor. Even with knots tied in the end of the rope it wasn't a super pleasant experience (neither was jugging back up the rope). As vegastrad says though, a 70m would seem fine.
By drewford
From: Wasatch Back, UT
Nov 16, 2009
|Great route. But the popularity strains the anchor/rappel arrangement. We were one of five parties, and an alternate rappel route would have been a big bonus.
By Jesse Morehouse
From: CO
Dec 9, 2009
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|Fun, mellow route but WAY TOO CONGESTED!!!! We were the first folks there the morning we did it. By the time we rapped we passed 6 parties (on a 5 pitch climb!!!!). I mean, it was a really fun route but not THAT good!!!! If you see people hanging off like grapefruit, go somewhere else and climb some other super cool route. Ive heard there are a few around...
By Richard Shore
Apr 17, 2010
|easy to do with a single 60m. Only have to downclimb about 10' in an easy chimney section on P2. Single 60m gets you to the anchors on every other pitch. Fun route, but a bit of a monotonous jug-haul the whole way.
By Richard Denker
From: Portland OR
May 4, 2010
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Only two double length runners are required for the third pitch one at the bolt and at the next pro placement. All other placements can be protected with regular length runners.
If you're not careful rope drag on the fourth pitch can be worse than the third pitch. (A party a head of us learned that the hard way.)
Do anything short of killing your partner for the fifth pitch. If that does not work, demand pitches 1, 2 and 3. Let him take pitches 4 and 5.
Pitch 1 is fun. Pitch 2 for a 5.7 is thought provoking. Pitch 3 is fun and interesting, not as runout as it looks. The crux of pitch 4 is route finding, if in doubt head right and up (look for a horizontal seam). The start of pitch 5 does not look special, but once above the roof it is a great pitch.
By John Wilder
From: Las Vegas, NV
Nov 23, 2010
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|As of 11/23/10, the loose rock at the top of the third pitch is no longer present. The rock below the loose rock has some scarring and a significant amount of sand/dust from the rockfall. If climbing this route in the next few days, be aware of this- extra pro and helmets are advised.
By Rich F.
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Mar 24, 2011
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|Great climb, but incredibly crowded -- even on a weekday. Reminds me of Yogi Berra's quote, "Nobody goes there anymore...it's too crowded." Started in the "cave" and did the right crack on the 1st pitch. Bad idea -- one spot in the crack ate my rope on the way up, heinous drag. Loved the third pitch.
By Jeremy Taylor (JT)
From: NV
Apr 15, 2011
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|Cool Route B. I had alot of fun. I think my favorite part was the P3 traverse, but there shouldn't have been a bolt there, i placed a nice TCU in the undercling (which i took out after i looked up and left) That would have been spicy. Great job. Well traveled (no less than 5 teams on the route the whole day, and one of them ate my sandwinch out of my pack, Grrrrrr)
By George Bell
From: Boulder, CO
Apr 20, 2011
|This route is great, but the last two belays are not crowd friendly -- just two bolts without much of a stance. The last belay in particular is a hanging belay except for the leader who gets the foothold. To pass the people coming up, we rapped from the top of 4 all the way to 2 with two 60m ropes. A clever ploy until our ropes got hung up on the way down. We also got the rope hung up on the rap from the top of p 2, and others got ropes hung up on the p 1 rap. Recommend you pull your knots over the lip (or better, borrow a 70m rope).
By Mike Caruso
May 4, 2011
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|Great route. Route finding was easy and climbing rarely gets harder than 5.6. P2 was the most sustained (aerobic)and P5 built up to a nice final crux. I think the most run out it gets is on the P2 offwidth moves. P3 can be sewn up with nuts and a #3 camalot before the bolt and with nuts after and above the bolt. I agree that the bolt is not needed. P4 & 5 have gear placements when you need them. We only had one group in front of us and had the climb to ourselves once they rapped by. We rapped cleanly, but there are many features to grab your rope.
By Mtnfly
From: El Segundo, Ca
Oct 27, 2011
|Climbed this today as a group of three. Was beautiful day, route is fun and interesting for a new leader. I felt the pro opportunities were pretty spaced out on pitch four. The climbing is 5.6ish through this section, but the route is bit ambiguous at this point and it feels like you are climbing into the unknown until the anchors finally pop into view. We rapped with double 60's which was a huge pain in my ass managing all that rope at the hanging belays up top while trying to rap past other parties. Our ropes did not get stuck. Good route.
By Matt Bay
Nov 23, 2011
|Climbed Birdland this past weekend. A single 60M rope DOES NOT work. A group above us rapping down from pitch 5 did not reach the pitch 4 anchors and it created a real mess!
By Carl A
From: brooklyn, ny
Dec 8, 2011
Do these 'land (frogland, birdland) have anything to do with all those 'land gunk's routes (disneyland, ect)?
Sure dont look like gunks routes...
By Eric-D
From: Las Vegas, nv
Oct 29, 2012
|There is a chockstone ready to fall out half way up the second pitch. It seems somewhat secure when pushed down but I gave it a lite tap upwards and it moved very easily. It's about 1' around and large enough to be serious.
By Mike Hill
Nov 20, 2012
Great climb. Didn't do the 6th pitch because of the comments from other climbers that it wasn't worth it. We rapped the whole route with one 70M rope. The 5th pitch is the toughest right at the end of the pitch. Don't go firing up for the last hold that looks like a ledge. It's not a ledge.
The rap down from the 3rd pitch can eat your rope. Throw your rope out as far as you can to keep it from falling into the crack. When you pull it make sure you try to whip it out away from the wall. This is hard when there are a bunch of people climbing below you.
As someone said before the approach is easiest if you go past the wall and double back up the switch backs. It's a lot longer approach than the 30 minutes in the guidebook. More like an hour over some tough terrain.
Very enjoyable route.
By Canon
Dec 8, 2012
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|The very end of P5, basically the last move before the anchor, has a loose rock in the left handhold. We would have tossed it, but there were people below us somewhere. Rapped down no problem with a 70m, passing another party coming up to the P2 belay. Passing people at the higher belays could causes quite the interesting traffic jam. Good intro route for the area.
By Ashley allard
From: Las Vegas, nv
Jan 6, 2013
|Climbed this today and had a blast. Had a bit of a chilly start at 7am but as the sun hit the wall the temp was perfect. On the way down we rapped past a couple parties from Phoenix.
By Creed A
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Mar 24, 2013
Really fun and varied route. I led all the pitches. P5 is the crux, but P3 is the most fun. If I were fighting for one of the leads, definitely P3.
Also, we were climbing on 60m half ropes. We were able to rappel from the top of P5 to the top of P3. It was a rope stretcher, but it worked. Only issue was the rope got snagged a few times. Definitely tie knots in the rope if you attempt this.
By G. Vesp
From: Las Vegas, Nevada
Oct 23, 2013
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|Great climb!! Rock can be somewhat brittle on the first pitch. The third pitch traverse and the last 25 feet of pitch 5 are awesome IMO!! We climbed on a 70 meter rope and I was glad that we did not have two 60's with a knot when we started to rap. Quite a few snag hazards when pulling. If you have a 70, I would use it on this climb and save yourself some hassel. Great day!!
By mojojojo Cee
From: Los Angeles, CA
Oct 28, 2013
Climb this on Saturday, use a suppose to be 70m rope (which I tihnk it was only 60M), but I think the rope was short. cause when we were rapping down from P5 to P4, we are 5' short to anchor. I end up down climb to P4 anchor.
then again on P3 to P2, and P2 to P1.
Also, find a stopping stuck in the crack on P3 right after the traverse. if that's yours, email me and descripe it, and i will get it back to you.
By musicDave
From: Blacksburg
Mar 13, 2014
|It is easy to get your ropes stuck on the rappel. We got one of our twin ropes stuck today (March 13). Luckily there was another party and they let us go down on their rope. We are heading back tomorrow morning to get our green/yellow rope.
By TonyTheClimber
Mar 21, 2014
|Great Route! That finger crack at the top was awesome. The only thing that wasn't awesome was that I dropped my brand new FiveTen Anasazi Verde left shoe from the top and watched it bounce down the wall. We didn't know where it landed (or if it did) and so it couldn't be found. If you find it, e-mail firstname.lastname@example.com. Other than that it was an amazing route and an amazing day.
By Jon Booth
May 1, 2014
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|The rappels for P5 & P4 can be combined with 60m doubles. Knot the ends- there will only be 1m of extra rope!
By Barrett Stetson
Oct 24, 2014
|We were on this climb Wednesday and not one other party showed up the whole time. I was shocked! Fun climb, but didn't get to do what sounds like the funnest pitch because new rope was twisting so bad was having trouble getting it through belay device on pitch 4, which was a little nerve racking.
By Matt N
From: Santa Barbara, CA
Mar 15, 2015
|Fixed a blue mastercam on P1 yesterday - good luck getting it out. Hint, it went in from the bottom. Otherwise, fun route and 70m recommended. A bit disappointed by the hyped final crack, climbs without jambs or finger locks.
By Manderson198
Mar 19, 2015
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
|Climbed this with Eric several months ago. This was my first trad multi-pitch. Great route. We climbed the first five pitches and then rapped. The fifth is the money pitch. Amazing. The sixth looked pretty terrible, but it would be fun to climb sometime, if nothing else but to honor the first ascentionists. Given the loose rock, I would only do this if there were no parties below. We hiked back to our car, drove to Calico Basin, and climbed Physical Graffiti afterward.
By M Bageant
From: Cambridge, MA
Mar 29, 2015
For a little more beta on rapping the route---
If you want to climb this route with a *single 60m rope:*
Rapping P5: If your 60m rope is cut slightly long (maybe 62-64m), the rap will be almost perfect. If your 60m is exactly 60m like mine, and you are a light climber, you may find yourself 8-10 feet above the anchor.
I would suggest if you suspect you might find yourself in this situation, (1) on the way up, leave a long sling on the P4 anchor that you can fish up with your foot to give yourself extra reach; and (2) have the heaviest climber rap, fish up the sling, clip in, and downclimb first. The lighter climber can then rap and toss a tied-in cord or sling or whatever down to the anchored heavier climber and complete the downclimb as well.
Rapping P4 and P3 is fine on a single 60m.
As per comments above, P2 and P1 seem to require more downclimbing. We combined our rope with our friends' 60m for these pitches so I cannot comment. If your 60m is cut long, then I might suggest stashing your tagline or second rope on the ledge at the top of P2 to save yourself having to carry it.
(Alternatively---if the anchor for P4 were moved up about 5 feet, you could rap the upper three pitches comfortably with a 60m!)
By Paul Simon
Nov 11, 2015
To avoid getting your rope stuck when rappelling pitch 2, do a very short rappel sideways to the left to another anchor just left of the chimney, and then to the top of pitch 1. I didn't heed this advice and got my ropes stuck as a reward.
Very fun climb. Last few feet of pitch 5 seemed a bit hard for 5.7.
By Jan Tarculas
From: Riverside, Ca
Nov 15, 2015
Did a repeat of this route this past Saturday after about 4 years ago. If you're comfortable leading 5.10 I would just bring a single rack 0.4-3 C4, set of TCUs or same size small cams and a rack of small nuts.
Build a quad since all belays are bolted
By Sean
From: Oak Park, CA
Dec 1, 2015
|there's a busted yellow LinkCam on P4, in a horizontal about 25 ft above the start of that pitch. no cam sling and all trigger wires broken. more trash clean-up than booty
By Kush Khandelwal
Dec 26, 2015
Beautiful route and fantastic day soaking in the sun on a cold December day.
Rapped with a single 70.
Make sure to exercise caution pulling your rope as others have said. We almost got ours stuck!
By Andy.C
Jan 11, 2016
Climbed this on Sat Jan 9, 2015. It was chilly to start, but warmed up when the sun came out. As others have mentioned, the route is in the sun the whole day.
Unfortunately, we dropped a rack of nuts (wild country offset superlights, and a few DMM offsets) on a red wild country helium carabiner. If anyone finds it please PM me. Thanks!
By SP Boston
From: Watertown, MA
Mar 11, 2016
rating: 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Beautiful climb.
Two potential hazards:
1. Many parties on the route, and upper belays are very tight. Be prepared for major traffic and pile-ups.
2. Rope pulls are tricky (our rope was stuck twice)
Advice: DO NOT link the rap from 4 to 2, even if you have long enough doubles. Just don't do it. Far too easy to get ropes stuck.
By Max Rausch
From: Monterey, California
Apr 1, 2016
|There's a stuck red X4 at the start of P2 someone should booty. Maybe two nut pullers and some creativity will get it out.
By Brad H
From: Las Vegas, NV
Jan 2, 2017
Amazing route!
Got a light blue/green 70m rope stuck on pitch 3 the night of Jan 1, 2017. (didn't see the post recommending against rapping from 4 to 2!).
Going back this morning, Jan 2 to get it. If you find it before us, there's a case of beer for you for bringing it down! Thanks
Also recommend against linking P3/4 due to high rope drag.
By Joe Forrester
From: Palo Alto
Feb 14, 2017
|Fun in the sun climbing. Doing P6 is worth it, no more loose than any of the rest of the route (which really isn't loose at all). Easy raps, climbs really quick.
By andrew potter
Mar 1, 2017
My frozen fingers fumbled our brand new ultralight 0.75 green BD camalot from the 4th pitch on Jan 27. I looked all over the base and couldn't find it. If you find it, I'll send you a reward for its return! Please text Drew at 619 708 6738.


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Roman Tribune Marcellus (Richard Burton, right), kneels before an offscreen Caligula (Jay Robinson, extreme left) in The Robe.
Henry Koster's The Robe, the first film released in CinemaScope on September 16, 1953 — the first film made in CinemaScope was How to Marry a Millionaire, which was released November 4, 1953 — has always gotten a bad rap, supposedly for Koster's flat and uninspired direction, and the primitive use of the 'scope frame in the film. And I admit, I myself was one of the crowd of detractors. But the new Blu-Ray restoration of The Robe brings out qualities that even the 35mm original didn't fully reveal during the film's initial theatrical presentation in 1953.
If such a thing is possible, The Robe ultimately emerges as a quiet, thoughtful epic, with a great deal of intelligence behind it, much more successful to my mind than Cecil B. DeMille's The Ten Commandments, William Wyler's Ben Hur, or even Nicholas Ray's maverick project King of Kings, all of which have a much higher conventional critical profile.
It isn't in the same league as Pier Paolo Pasolini's masterful The Gospel According to St. Matthew, but then again, that's arguably the best version of the Christ tale ever brought to the screen. But The Robe has a certain quiet holding power to it, mostly anchored in the understated performances of the entire cast throughout the film, though it doesn't neglect the visual aspect of the piece, and only occasionally wanders off track into maudlin sentiment.
As the anonymous reviewer for Blu-Ray.com noted, "The Robe dazzles on Blu-ray with its masterful 1080p transfer framed at 2.55:1. This is another high-quality classic catalogue release from Fox, and rarely does the transfer fail to impress. Colors are astounding and are the highlight of the image. The shade of dark red that marks the color of the Roman soldier's uniforms in particular stands out, but the many colors of the flowing and wonderfully adorned garments worn by both Roman royalty and the populace of Jerusalem sparkle. The color stands out particularly well against the earthen tones of the sandy floors and the numerous gray façades of various buildings.
Fine detail, too, is generally exceptional. The disc reveals textures and fine lines in clothing, armor, weaponry, and the adornments of the luxurious Roman palaces. Some scenes are noticeably soft, lacking in clarity, sharpness, and detail, but such scenes are the exception to the rule. There are also a few instances of dramatic shifts in color one frame to another, but again, such is the exception to the rule. Generally, The Robe looks marvelous on Blu-ray."
And in a lengthy review in the website DVD Beaver, Leonard Norwitz concurs, stating flatly that "next to the DVD or any video or theatrical presentation in memory, this Blu-ray is a revelation, which is not to say that it is always perfect, but where there are difficulties, I feel comfortable in attributing them to the source. The image most often has the feel of a painting in motion, which I imagine was the intended effect. There is an almost pastel quality to the color.
The lighting is deliberately evenhanded most of the time, not natural at all, but in stark contrast to the dramatic material in Palestine that concerns the robe itself: the crucifixion and Marcellus' crisis most especially. In those scenes, blacks are intense and the color deep and sinister. Some of the darkly lit interior scenes get oversaturated the point of blurring detail – the result is not subtle, and certainly not intentional. Artifacts, enhancements or noise reduction do not appear to be visited upon this Blu-ray."
Diana (Jean Simmons) and Caligula (Jay Robinson) in The Robe
I also think that The Robe has been unjustly maligned over the years as an overblown religious spectacle, and while it certainly indulges in visual excess, the performances are all very finely tuned, particularly a very young Richard Burton in the role that made him a star, as well as Jean Simmons as Diana, Richard Boone as Pontius Pilate, Ernest Thesiger as Emperor Tiberius, Victor Mature as Demetrius, and Michael Rennie as Peter. In contrast, Jay Robinson's suitably over-the-top Caligula is a fully realized monster, and arguably the performance of his career.
CinemaScope, of course, was 20th Century Fox's answer to the threat of television, and although the 'scope version is the most widely seen, the film was simultaneously shot in regular academy (flat) ratio to accommodate theaters that couldn't afford to convert to the CinemaScope screen format. Alfred Newman's suitably lush score is also a plus. While the film is certainly sentimentalized, it's really an actor's film, and a deeply felt one at that, in which the cast never seems overpowered by the pageantry the surrounds them. All in all, The Robe is worth another look, and now it looks better than ever.

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Artist's BiographyBrian Slawson has been critically acclaimed as a �musical original.� While playing marimba on the streets of New York City to finance his scholarship studies at The Juilliard School, Brian was discovered by Mikie Harris, assistant to legendary Columbia Records producer and talent scout, John Hammond. (Brian was 1 of 100 all-time alumni to be featured in, \"Juilliard - 100 Years of Dance, Drama, Music.\")
BACH ON WOOD, Slawson\'s debut album on the Sony/CBS label, earned him a Grammy nomination for �Best New Classical Artist� and remained on the Billboard charts for over a year. Slawson has since cut solo albums XCLASSICS, BOOMER, BACH BEAT, THE BACH ON WOOD VARIATIONS and DISTANT DRUMS, which features cameos by late blues great Stevie Ray Vaughan, jazz trumpet legend Freddie Hubbard and drummer Michael Shrieve of Santana fame.
Slawson has performed with Leonard Bernstein, Aaron Copland, Joshua Bell, Itzhak Perlman, Isaac Stern, John Cage, Robert Shaw, Bernard Haitink and opera great Jessye Norman. He has punctuated jokes on stage for Jerry Seinfeld, Paul Reiser, Don Rickles, Bill Maher, David Brenner and Eddie Murphy. Brian\'s pop credits as drummer and percussionist include: Pat Benetar, Marie Osmond, Marvin Hamlisch, Peggy Lee, Johnny Mathis, Bob Newhart, Savion Glover, Michael Crawford, Steve Lawrence & Eydie Gorme, Art Garfunkel, The Mamas and Papas, Xavier Cugat, Regis Philbin, Barbara Eden, Mary Wilson (Supremes) and Bond.
As a featured act, Brian has appeared on the �The Tonight Show,� �Entertainment Tonight,� �The CBS Morning News,� and National Public Radio\'s, �All Things Considered.� He has made national television appearances in Europe, South America and Japan. A veteran studio musician, Brian has produced/performed on 200 + jingles (IBM, Budweiser, Coca-Cola, McDonald\'s, Chrysler, American Express, Exxon/Mobil, etc.) and feature film scores for Columbia, 20th Century FOX, SHO Entertainment and Cannon Films. He is a sponsored endorser for Ludwig-Musser, Zildjian, Vic Firth, Remo, Grover Pro Percussion, Alternate Mode, Rhythm Tech, Tapspace and Sibelius.
Slawson�s Broadway show tours of the U.S. and Europe include �Phantom of the Opera� (assistant musical director/percussionist) and �Barnum.� Brian also played �Les Miserables� and �Barnum� on Broadway. Madison Square Garden appearances include �Disney On Ice� and Barnum and Bailey�s, �Greatest Show On Earth�. He played the �Radio City Music Hall Christmas Spectacular,� �Ben Hur, the Musical� and toured with Jo Loesser�s, �The Music of Frank Loesser.�
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On a Branson team that essentially showed no weaknesses en route to its fourth consecutive state title, there was one player who stood out as the person who orchestrated the Bulls offense. It wasn't one of the big hitters or blockers, instead it was setter Gaby Steiner, who was named MCAL girls volleyball player of the year.
"We probably run the most complicated offense in the league," Branson coach Michelle Brazil said. "Without her, it's hard to run. She does a great job isolating hitters and she does a great job making quick decisions." Even Steiner admitted she was a little surprised to receive the award.
"I'm so honored and grateful," said Steiner, also the IJ player of the year. "I think it's hard for a passing setter to get it because it's not as flashy as hitting."
Though she tends to not get the recognition on the score sheet, Steiner, her teammates and apparently the rest of the league know how valuable she is. Steiner averaged nearly 10 assists per set and also was a very effective server with 49 aces in the year, second on the team.
"We definitely run a fast offense and as a setter, it's my job that everything is run right and everything is run smoothly," said Steiner, who lives in Richmond. "That's the fun thing about playing setter is running the offense."
Playing on the varsity team for the past three years, Steiner never got tired of her team's success. Going out on top in her senior year was quite the cherry on top of her high school career.
"I think the state title senior year is definitely the most special of them," Steiner said. "Senior season is something you'll remember, I just love the team so much. The best part was just getting to play with the girls, but I am more than happy to go out with the win."
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Pettitte expects to come off DL on June 1
ST. PETERSBURG -- Andy Pettitte said that he felt good after throwing a bullpen session on Saturday at Tropicana Field and expects to come off the disabled list when he is eligible on June 1.
Pettitte, who is on the DL with a strained left trapezius muscle, said that he is expected to pitch a simulated game on Tuesday and then could slot back into the Yankees' rotation.
"I think they want to see how I feel tomorrow, make sure everything is good," Pettitte said. "I think the plan would be a sim game after that, try to go ahead and see how it feels.
"The seven days I took off is not that long of a break, as built up as I was. With this bullpen, I felt good, so I think we could go right into a game and see how it goes."
Bryan Hoch is a reporter for MLB.com. Follow him on Twitter @bryanhoch and read his MLBlog, Bombers Beat. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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ALBANY, Ga. - Three siblings accused in a crime spree that started in Florida and ended with their capture after a shootout in Colorado have pleaded not guilty to charges of pulling off a daring bank robbery in south Georgia.
The three, 21-year-old Ryan Edward Dougherty, 26-year-old Dylan Stanley-Dougherty and 29-year-old Lee Grace Dougherty, have already been given hefty prison sentences in Colorado for leading police on a dangerous chase on a busy interstate highway after two retired officers recognized them.
The three entered the plea Tuesday at a court hearing in Albany. They are accused of robbing a bank in Valdosta, Ga., hours after escaping from police in Florida.
Authorities say $5,168 taken from the bank helped fuel their escape.
On top of the lengthy sentences they received in Colorado, the siblings could face decades more in prison for the robbery. Beyond the Georgia prosecution for bank robbery in Georgia, they face additional charges in Florida of shooting at an officer who tried to pull them over.
"The three Dougherty siblings could have killed anybody at any time," said Sheriff Chris Nocco of Pasco County, Fla. "We're just blessed that no civilians were hurt and no law enforcement officers were hurt."
The search for the gang began in August when an officer northeast of Tampa, Fla., tried to pull over their car for speeding. That led to a five-mile police chase, with speeds around 100 mph. Two of the passengers squeezed off at least 20 gunshots at the officer following them. He wasn't hurt, but a bullet burst one of his tires and he had to give up the chase.
A few hours later, authorities say the three made their way to the Certus Bank in Valdosta. One of them brandished an AK-47-style rifle while another was photographed by a security camera waving a pistol, the FBI said. The robbers fired shots into the ceiling and then fled with about $5,200 in cash, burning through $1,000 as they made their way west.
Their images were plastered on electronic billboards throughout the Southeast. Their mother, Barbara Bell, encouraged her children to turn themselves in before someone got hurt, while authorities warned the public to steer clear.
"It sure seems like they have a death wish," Valdosta Police Cmdr. Brian Childress said at the time. "We're just hoping they surrender and they do it peacefully so no one gets hurt."
The chase ended about eight days later after two retired officers spotted the three while on a leisure trip in the San Isabel National Forest and called in the sighting. Within an hour, the fugitives were leading authorities on a 20-mile police chase on Interstate 25 that ended in Walsenburg, about 150 miles south of Denver. Shots were fired at the officers before troopers deployed spike strips to puncture the tires of the trio's Subaru, and the vehicle rolled before crashing into a guardrail.
Even then, the chase wasn't over. Lee Dougherty bolted from the crash on foot, only to be shot in the leg by an officer after she pointed a pistol at him, authorities said. She later told police, "I deserved to get shot," according to court records.
The arrest launched a string of court cases that stretched to all three states as well. The three were sentenced last month to hefty prison sentences for the mayhem in Colorado, and they could face more prison in Georgia and Florida. At last month's sentencing hearing, Ryan Dougherty was given 18 years, Lee Grace Dougherty received 24 years and Dylan Stanley-Dougherty got 32 years.
"I'd like to say it was a lapse in judgment, but 10 days is not a lapse in judgment," Lee Grace Dougherty said at the hearing. "It was bad, poor judgment."
Dylan Stanley-Dougherty is accused of firing the assault rifle at pursuing officers before the three were captured in Colorado, and authorities say he was also the one who fired at a police officer in Florida and a during the Georgia bank robbery. During the sentencing hearing, he apologized for his actions and told the judge he didn't intend to hurt anyone.
"It is true that I acted out of desperation, and I am sorry for choices that I made," he said.
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Skaggs not able to throw simulated game yet
CLEVELAND -- It turns out Angels left-hander Tyler Skaggs won't be activated when eligible on Saturday.
Skaggs, on the disabled list since June 10 because of a strained right hamstring, didn't throw his scheduled simulated game at Progressive Field on Tuesday. Instead, Angels manager Mike Scioscia said, the 22-year-old will "probably throw a bullpen in the next couple days."
Scioscia said Skaggs didn't suffer a setback; the Angels are just "going on his pace."
"He's feeling good," Scioscia added, "but not quite enough to do what you need him to do in a sim game."
The Angels can afford to wait a little longer, with Hector Santiago (six shutout innings against the A's, followed by five scoreless against the Braves before a rough sixth inning) and Matt Shoemaker (3-0 with a 3.76 ERA in five starts heading into his Tuesday outing) throwing the ball well.
Skaggs plans to throw his bullpen session on Wednesday, then throw his sim game on Saturday and be activated shortly thereafter.
"I felt like I needed to throw just a little bit more," said Skaggs, who's 4-4 with a 4.34 ERA in 12 starts. "The hamstring's 100 percent. Just one of those things about getting your arm ready to go."
Alden Gonzalez is a reporter for MLB.com. Read his blog, Gonzo and "The Show", and follow him on Twitter @Alden_Gonzalez. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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While many women quickly gain weight during their pregnancies, Nicole "Snooki" Polizzi claims she's only 15 pounds over her regular weight and it's all in her chest.
"They're huge!" the Jersey Shore alum – who is expecting a baby boy this September with Jionni LaValle – tells In Touch magazine.
Although she may voice complaints that her swelling chest is painful, especially at night, Snooki swears her breasts will be the key secret to shedding the baby weight after her son arrives.
"I heard breast-feeding hurts, but it will help me bounce right back," she says. "Then, I want to get a boob job!"
The reality television star – who claims that she plans to gain only 25 pounds during her pregnancy – is trying to stay healthy by eating bagels, turkey burgers and salads for meals.
"The baby weight will just drop off!" Snooki says, confident she will slim down quickly to her 98 pound pre-baby body.
Read more from Snooki in this week's issue of In Touch on newsstands now.


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Tesla is also revolutionizing the car purchasing experience by adopting a manufacturer owned store approach with both galleries and stores in high end shopping mall locations. As a precursor to the establishment of a full store location markets are initially explored by putting a vehicle and a salesperson on location this is known as the "Asset Lite†phase of market development
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Key matchups in Patriots-Bills game
The Patriots held a 21-0 lead over the Bills midway through the second quarter of last year's matchup. Four Tom Brady interceptions later, the Bills came out on top, 34-31, in a wild finish. It was their first loss to the Bills in 16 games since the 2003 regular season opener. The two teams face off again Sunday, the first of two scheduled affairs this season. Here's a look at some of Sunday's most intriguing matchups.
Tom Brady vs. Ryan Fitzpatrick: Brady had a career-worst four interceptions to go along with his four touchdowns against the Bills last September, while Fitzpatrick had two touchdowns and two interceptions. Both quarterbacks threw for more than 350 yards. Fitzpatrick hasn't been as good as he was last year, but his Bills are 2-1. The Patriots have dropped their last two after winning their opener against the Titans.
Chandler Jones vs. Cordy Glenn : Jones, the rookie defensive end who made a splash in the season opener, will go head-to-head with Glenn, the Bills' left tackle taken in the second round. The Bills have only allowed 1 sack on Ryan Fitzpatrick this season, so Jones has his work cut out for him.
New England's linebackers vs. Buffalo's runners: The Bills have had success running this year no matter who carries the ball. Fred Jackson injured his knee in the season opener, but backup C.J. Spiller had two 100-yard games before getting injured in Week 3. Third-stringer Tashard Choice ran for 91 yards on 20 carries after Spiller left. The Patriots have been able to limit rushing attacks, allowing 243 total yards this season (seventh in NFL). Linebacker Jerod Mayo leads the team in tackles, and he could be instrumental in stopping the Bills' three backs.
Devin McCourty vs. Steve Johnson: McCourty had a tough game against the Ravens, letting two potential interceptions slip through his hands and committing a pivotal pass interference penalty to set up the Ravens' game-winning field goal. Johnson has a touchdown grab in each of the first three weeks but hasn't had a 100-yard game yet.
Buffalo's defensive line vs. Patriots offensive line: This is one of the most intriguing matchups. Mario Williams was brought to Buffalo to bolster the Bills' pass rush, and the Patriots' offensive line may lack Pro Bowler left guard Logan Mankins. The Bills are 15th in the NFL in rushing defense and 19th in passing defense.
New England's runners vs. Buffalo's linebackers: The Patriots have had a surprisingly good rushing unit this season, ranking seventh in yards and tied (with the Bills) for fourth with three touchdowns. Stevan Ridley leads the team in rushing with 233 yards, averaging 4.5 yards per carry. Who does the team's only lost fumble belong to? Tom Brady.
New England's receivers vs. Buffalo's secondary: After a quiet Week 3, Rob Gronkowski could break out against the Bills. The Bills have allowed the seventh most receiving yards in the AFC, but they haven't faced anyone like Gronk this year. Gronk had two touchdowns in their matchup last year, as did Wes Welker, who had his first 100-yard game of the season last week.


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Topic: Oxaliplatin and pill form xeloda
Just got back from seeing my Oncologist. After two treatments and comparison of tumor marker CA-19-9 levels before and after showed a drop of 40%. Doc said it appears this regimen is working for you, that a 40% drop after 2 treatments is real good. Start round (cycle) three Wednesday and follow-up CT in three weeks. I said from the begining I felt this regimen was attacking something. Now it is time to cross the fingers and see if it continues. It was about time for a little positive feed back any hoot! Got to always stay on the guard though.
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After playing with Alex Smith in San Francisco, Cardinals guard Adam Snyder wouldn't mind playing with Smith again.
The Cardinals desperately need a quarterback, and Snyder would like to see them pursue Smith if he became available. Despite playing the best football of his career this season, Smith lost his starting job to Colin Kaepernick.
— Brown: Start Smith, not Kapernick
"If someone asked me about him, I'd tell them exactly what I thought," Snyder said via the Sacramento Bee. "I think the guy's got unbelievable character, and I think he's a leader. Obviously, he and I came in together (in 2005). So I've got a special place for him.
"He was 19-5 (in the past two seasons) and had the best QB rating in the league and was doing his job to win games, you know? It was surprising to me. But, hey, they get paid to make those decisions, and that's the decision they went with."
The Cardinals are certain to pursue quarterbacks during the offseason, and Smith is expected to want out of San Francisco. Snyder wouldn't mind if Smith remained in the NFC West with the Cardinals.


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Phillies could have interest in retaining Sizemore
SAN FRANCISCO -- The Phillies signed Grady Sizemore to a Minor League contract June 24, when they stood a more palatable six games under .500.
Entering Friday, he had hit .309 with seven doubles, one triple, one home run, seven RBIs and a .786 OPS (on-base plus slugging percentage) in 27 games since he joined the big league team in July. He has played well, maybe better than expected since the Red Sox released him in June, when he had a .612 OPS in 52 games.
But does he have a future in the organization? Sizemore is 32 with multiple injuries on his medical report. He also is a free agent after the season. If he continues to play well, would the Phillies invest in him? He has outperformed Domonic Brown (.615 OPS) and Ben Revere (.692 OPS) to this point, but does the front office view him as a part of a retooling or rebuilding effort?
"Yeah, very possible," Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said recently. "He's played well enough to certainly be in consideration for 2015 and beyond. But again that's one of those questions we'll continue to assess. What we do with our outfield will be one of those questions, and he could very well be a part of it."
Of course, Sizemore could be traded before the Aug. 31 waiver Trade Deadline. He might not bring much in return, but he could net the Phillies a prospect of some stature in their retooling efforts for next season and beyond.
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I am anticipating a major war, and I'm not referring to any Middle East conflicts. I am talking about the price war that's about to occur in wireless services -- one that will quite possibly leave Apple (AAPL) as collateral damage. As is often the case, my thesis has been bubbling for some time, but it's recently crystalized from real-life experience as a customer, as opposed to my abstract desk research as an investor.
The U.S. wireless-carrier business has consolidated down to a three-company race, with Verizon (VZ) and AT&T (T) commanding the heights as Sprint Nextel (S) struggles to keep up. As with most human situations, desperate but viable third-party competitors can often cause massive dislocation if they are given a helping hand. In this case, I believe Sprint is about to painfully disturb the margin structure so carefully nurtured by Verizon and AT&T.
Here is the real-life experience that clinched my thesis: My oldest daughter turned 13 recently, and it came time to buy her a phone. My family has a plan with Verizon already, and we've been grandfathered into unlimited data. The plan is probably average for most people but, at $90 a month, it's not inexpensive. As you all know, Verizon and AT&T are aggressively trying to cap data usage in order to return to the old "overage" revenue model, which is lucrative but incredibly annoying to consumers. Adding my daughter to our family plan would have required us to give up unlimited data, which I did not want to do -- so I started looking at other carriers.
Virgin Mobile -- which resells Sprint bandwidth -- offers a compelling deal, especially when it comes to shopping for a teen. We signed up for $35 a month for 300 minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data. I will concede that Verizon still has some small advantages -- better coverage, mostly -- but for essentially the same service at a 60% discount, the Virgin deal was irresistible. In fact, when our Verizon contract is up, we will probably all move to Virgin/Sprint.
Until a few months ago, I might have worried about Sprint's ability to upgrade its network and sustain service levels. But the recent deal with SoftBank, which has the firm taking control of Sprint, has completely changed the equation. Sprint now has the capital access and an aggressive "godfather" with the track record and ability to drive profound change. Sprint CEO Dan Hesse may not have had the chops alone to take on Verizon and AT&T -- but Masayoshi San, the SoftBank CEO, certainly does. If my consumer experience -- compellingly low price and equal service levels -- translates into the core strategy for Sprint/Softbank, the U.S. wireless market is about to get very good for consumers, and very bad for legacy carriers.
Apple looks primed to become the collateral damage. Apple's beautiful margins are only sustainable because the carriers subsidize the iPhone. The quid pro quo on $35-a-month service is no phone subsidy; you pay full price, thank you. Our daughter got a Samsung/Google (GOOG) Android phone for around $200, roughly the same price as that for a subsidized iPhone.
Don't get me wrong: I love the iPhone, and I've made a ton of money owning Apple shares for the last few years. But the reality is that the Android has come close enough to Apple's iOS mobile operating system that there is now no functional difference between the two. If Sprint/Softbank starts taking significant market share over the next two years -- which is about how long it will take, as people need to roll off their two-year contracts -- consumers will face the choice of buying a $200 Android vs. a $700 iPhone.
The end of subsidies means the end of Apple's margin structure. In order to remain competitive, the iPhone premium will need to shrink substantially. In three years, the iPhone at retail will probably sell for $300 to $400 at best. I could argue against this as an abstract investor -- but as a consumer living it in the store, the trend seems inevitable.
So here is the trade: long the new Sprint, and possibly short Verizon and AT&T. I say "possibly" because you are fighting a huge dividend payout, so you may be better off "avoiding" rather than shorting.
Secondarily, go long Google and short or at least avoid Apple. I do think the iPhone margin pressure will drive the stock down but, similar to my thoughts on Verizon and AT&T, I am still cautious here: Apple's computer business still has momentum, and the company may get additional growth in the television business with new products. Also, Apple shares are not overvalued; they are at a market multiple. For these reasons, Apple may be better to avoid than to short.
I have been long Apple for years, and at one time thought it had the chance to be the first company with $1 trillion in market capitalization. But, with Steve Jobs gone and the world changing in its most important market, the top may now be in.


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Junior Kaleena Kovach is ready for the competition to begin. On Friday, March 7, she will be one of 10 CU-Boulder student poets competing in the 11th annual CU Poetry Slam. The following week she will take her poetry talent to the stage during the 2014 College Unions Poetry Slam Invitational March 12–15. Both slams will be in the Glenn Miller Ballroom.
Different than "open mic" nights where poets sit and recite their poems to a quiet audience, slams thrive on audience reaction and participation, according to Kovach.
"This is not your grandpa's poetry," said Kovach, an English and creative writing major. "I encourage people to come check it out, it is completely different than what most people expect. It has a performance element as well as the creative writing side of poetry. It's definitely not somebody sitting in a chair for 15 minutes rambling on."
Kovach's interest in poetry began in high school in Colorado Springs, where she also was involved in theater. What drew her to poetry slamming was the mix of performance and creative writing.
"There is a lot of emotion and audience interaction," she said.
Before Friday's slam begins, five audience members will be chosen as judges for the competition. When all is said and done, a new CU Poetry Slam Champion will be crowned.
Previous winners have gone on to audition and join professional poetry slam teams in Denver, with one former champion even winning a poetry slam in New Zealand while studying abroad.
More than 50 teams of collegiate poets will compete in the 2014 College Unions Poetry Slam Invitational. All of the bouts leading up to the finals are free and open to the public. Tickets ($5 for students and $7 for the public) are required for the finals, which will be held on March 15, beginning at 7 p.m.


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For the second consecutive year, Major League Soccer has set new marks for attendance.
Overall, the league average grew more than five percent, coming in at 18,807. This bettered the 2011 mark of 17,844 by nearly 1,000 fans per game.
MLS regular-season attendance in 2012 topped the 6 million mark for the first time ever, with a total of 6,074,729 fans.
MLS also finished seventh in global average attendance.
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I've been looking at CMS Made simple but even though it uses Smarty, its templating system seems a bit difficult to customize. Wordpress has many plugins, so it would probably have something like a helpdesk/support ticket, but it also seems a bit difficult to customize its layout. Can anyone recommend other alternatives? Thank you.
Wordpress is my CMS of choice these days. I've found it to be more or less the easiest one to work with, find plugins for, and customize.
By default, wordpress does not use smarty. You must either be using a template that specifically integrated smarty, or a 3rd-party plugin that includes it.
Here's a couple articles on wordpress theme development:
As for other CMSes, there's also Joomla, Drupal, and ExpressionEngine. However, I've found Joomla's plugin and theme systems to be hard to work with.
I used wordpress for 3 years and now I feel satisfied.
Like the other responders here, I have a preference based on the tool I use most. At one time I would have built the site from scratch and used smarty or my simpler templating engine to do the job but now that we have powerful modular CMS systems, building from scratch just isn't efficient for building, supporting or extending today's websites.
If this were my task, I'd build a Drupal site and add the case tracker module (http://drupal.org/project/casetracker) for my ticketing system.
Drupal used to be hard before Drupal 7 emerged and it can get complicated but for a simple site like the one you're suggesting it should be a walk in the park.
Thank you all for your responses. Let's say I create a series of pages like : Hosting, features, contact, about us etc. Obviously the menu for those would be dynamically generated but I want those menus to be image based rollovers, not just text links. Can this be done with Wordpress? Or would it be a very messy mod?
There should be lots of plugins that will allow for this sort of thing.
On a related note, what control panel software are you using (CPanel, Plesk, etc...) I would imagine that whatever you are using has extensions for theming and incorporating CMS features into it for the public facing site.
Yeah I would have to say Wordpress is very good and Expression Engine CMS is also really good. Those are the only two i would use at this point. Wordpress is free and millions of plugins and themes. Pretty much runs on any webhost too. Expression Engine has higher quality plugins in my opion but you have to pay for pretty much everything with that CMS.
We are running here a web development company in KL. We usually rely on three Content Management Systems:
Drupal: https://drupal.org/Joomla: http://www.joomla.org/WordPress: http://wordpress.org/
For Learning Resources, check below:
Learn Drupal:
Learn Joomla:http://docs.joomla.org/Beginnershttp://www.startlearningjoomla.com/
Learn WordPress: http://learn.wordpress.com/
Choose one of the above and roll with it. My personal recommendation is WordPress.
All the Best!
Iis very easy to work with the WordPress because of its editing options and lots of plugins to work with.
The Best CMS for a web hosting website is Wordpress, as it has many useful plugins that can help in creating a fully functional website. Wordpress is one of the most popular CMS and it is widely used by many developers.
Can you provide some specifics of plugins where WordPress excels in the realm of hosting websites so the original poster can see what you're talking about?
Why image based rollovers? That's a pretty outdated method... You can do lots these days just with CSS. I don't think I've seen a site use images for rollovers since 2000... It's not user-friendly, something you should keep in mind. And there's always the option to use background images, if the scenario calls for it. Either way, this should be the job of CSS, not the backend.


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A friend of mine (IT specialist) said that Bill Gates stated that he doesn't mind home users to use pirated microsoft products, so it is ok to use them at home.
Ben wrote:Why would it be any different?
one significant difference is that in the Buddha's day it would have been impossible to "take that which is not given" without depriving the original owner of that very item.
retrofuturist wrote:I don't want to rehash old discussions, but I do know (from speaking to some of them) that some musicians don't mind their music being copied for others (though they often can't come out and say it in case the record company's legal team gets wind of it) because it gives them exposure and increases the likelihood of selling concert tickets, t-shirts and other paraphernalia, and it introduces their music to people who would not otherwise heard of them and therefore also increases the chances of such people buying their music legally in the future.
pt1 wrote:I don't see where is the ambiguity here.
retrofuturist wrote:I don't think there's any ambiguity over the interpretation of the precept as it was laid down by the Buddha. As I said, "I wonder how the Buddha would have formulated this precept had he lived in the age of copyright? Would it be the same, would it be different?"
We know that he added Vinaya rules as the need arose, rather than doing them all instantaneously, so if the Buddha had come up against copyright law, notions of intellectual property and such, would he have worded this precept in the same way?
Pannapetar wrote:*Everyone who is concerned about software piracy and licensing issues should evaluate Linux and open-source software. I am myself a contributor (...in a humble way).
How about everyone concerned about piracy just legally purchase the product of their choice? It is not that hard.
* Copying media is even more complicated, as it depends on use. Downloading movies and music might violate the second precept, or it might not. For example, if you watch a movie on the Internet, how is that different from watching it on TV?
The television paid for the rights to show it.
If you listen to Internet radio, how is that different from listening to radio?
In case the website where you retrieve media from is breaching copyright laws, can you always discern it? Is it reasonable to expect users to discern it?
Ignorance of the law is no excuse - the Buddha went so far to state that the ignorant breaker of precepts is worse than than the intentional breaker... If you don't want pirated, bootlegged, stolen or illegal stuff - know your source.
Furthermore, if you download a digital copy of a song/movie for personal use, how is that different from recording it for personal use with a tape recorder?
Making a copy of your legally purchased product for your personal use is not the same as pirating a copy. If you purchase a legal download - it is a legal download. An illegal download is illegal. Stealing is stealing. Using a tape recorder to record a copy of a product you did not legally buy is stealing. Nowhere does the copyright say "except if you use a tape recorder, then stealing is legal"? Lots of DAT recorders had copy protection built in - for the first time the ability to copy was soooo good they were really scared.
If a friend gives you a memory stick with MP3 songs, how is that different from exchanging records with friends the old-fashioned way?
Vinyl records were single copies legally purchased. If the memory stick has only legally purchased songs and not copies of legally purchased songs - the only difference is the media.
* Is downloading (=taking) media necessarily rooted in greed? - I doubt this can be stated with general validity. - For example, you could download something out of mere curiosity to evaluate it, or you could download it for someone else, for example cartoons for your kids, or you could download it for educational purposes and for a million other reasons. Besides, if downloading nonphysical media is "greedy" then what about buying physical media? Doesn't the willingness to spend cash for such an item express an even greater desire (=greed) to possess it?
Sheesh - you are arguing that legally purchasing something is worse than stealing? - is the Buddha rolling over in his grave or what? (rhetorical question)
I doubt that the argument can be called conclusive...
I doubt that the logic used can be either...
Cheers, Thomas
Pannapetar wrote:
Here is another example, just food for thought: you buy a book and after reading it yourself, you lend (or give it away) to a friend. Does that violate copyrights? Is that stealing from the author/publisher? Is this taking what's not given?
Cheers, Thomas
Pannapetar wrote:Here is another example, just food for thought: you buy a book and after reading it yourself, you lend (or give it away) to a friend. Does that violate copyrights? Is that stealing from the author/publisher? Is this taking what's not given?
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President's Message
Perhaps now, more than ever, the value of an advanced academic degree is quite evident.
As you depart SUNY Orange for the next phase of your academic career, or as you embark upon a new or revamped professional path, I am confident the College has prepared you to tackle the challenges that await. The College's reputation as a rigorous academic institution will always accompany you and will serve you well, particularly in difficult economic times.
I congratulate you upon reaching this most significant milestone. Commencement remains my favorite event of each academic year. As you walk across the stage to accept your degree, you celebrate having accomplished a special achievement in your life.
I wish only the best for your future. Enjoy Commencement and savor your successes, but most importantly, be proud of your accomplishments. You've worked hard to get here.
Best of luck from all of us at SUNY Orange.


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The really bad news for unions is that the Keystone XL episode is emblematic of a much larger failure of organized labor's political strategy. To be fair, calling it a strategy may be generous. After the resounding Republican victory in 2004, unions simply resolved to spend as much money as they could to elect as many Democrats as possible.
Since 2008, unions have doled out more than $1 billion in campaign cash, including over $400 million in 2012. And that's just what the unions own up to spending. Thanks to transparency requirements put in place by the Bush administration's Department of Labor, the Wall Street Journal was able to estimate last year that labor unions spent $4.4 billion on political activities between 2005 and 2011. Union political spending now exceeds all other direct political donations, though this essential fact is ignored in the incessant media harrumphing over super-PACs, special interests, and other campaign finance issues. The GOP wave in 2010 notwithstanding, union spending has been pretty successful at securing Democratic victories. Policy victories, though, have been harder to come by.
Aside from the delay of the Keystone XL pipeline, three other union developments since Obama's reelection bear mentioning. In December, Michigan, home of the United Auto Workers and long considered an impregnable union stronghold, outlawed union membership as a condition of employment and became a right-to-work state. Even coming on the heels of recent failures to stop public employee union reform in Wisconsin and the success of right-to-work legislation in Indiana, no one had imagined this happening in Michigan. Public employee union reform was turned back in Ohio—but only after unions spent $40 million on a scorched-earth campaign that included ads warning modest changes to collective bargaining laws would make it "harder for nurses to give the patients the quality care that they need" and "take us back to the days of Jim Crow." But if compulsory unionism can't be defended in Michigan, it's probably endangered everywhere. Already there's a movement gaining steam to put a right-to-work measure on the Ohio ballot this year. The days of labor laws being rigged in favor of unions are numbered.


text: Common Needs, Custom Solutions HDR Architecture offers a glimpse into its approach to designing multiple collaborative spaces for three different clients, as well as insights into how technology will continue to shape the conference room as we know it. 02.01.2012 by Robert Nieminen * required fields From* To* Message cancel CONTACT All conference rooms are created equal, right? Since the advent of the open office plan, it seems all you need are some glass walls, a long, sleek table with power and data access, a dozen or so executive chairs, a video screen or whiteboard, and you're done. Not so fast. While the conference room described above may sound typical of what we see in many workplaces today, it is certainly not a recipe for creating a successful collaborative environment for a client. Which begs the question: how do you go about designing effective spaces where teams can work together or communicate remotely without disturbing other employees in the office? How do you create environments with similar purposes for different clients, while making them look and feel unique? And with technology changing at an ever-rapid pace, what will conference rooms look like in the years ahead? To answer these questions and more, we asked designers at global architecture firm HDR Architecture to give us a glimpse into how they went about creating multiple conference rooms and collaborative spaces for three different clients, and to compare and contrast the similarities and difference between them. "The way we work is changing fast. More and more, work is a chance conversation you have with a colleague from a different department, or a video conference call with folks in Atlanta, London and China. Working in groups, collaborating, is the new norm. And with advances in communications technology, especially in mobility, the traditional board, or conference room, is becoming less utilized," explains Brian Kowalchuck, design director at HDR. "Instead, meetings happen on the fly: in a café, a small huddle room, outside at a picnic table under a tree, in a casual seating area with whiteboards, touch screen and a wireless connection. Still, all three clients required a variety of meeting spaces for various ways of working." "Conferencing is more than just the traditional conference room, and informal spaces are a part of the new model," continues Kowalchuck. "The idea was to facilitate not just meetings for specific teams, groups or disciplines, but also to increase collaboration between teams. This also accommodates employees' different ways of working, giving them a choice of activity settings." Most conference rooms at each project feature glass, both for a sense of openness and to be perceived as 'open territory,' not reserved for leadership teams or special occasions. This transparency encourages collaboration, and can serve as an alternate "whiteboard" for brainstorming or taking notes, he says. However, the option for privacy, both visual and acoustic, is also important, he adds. "Sometimes the thought is that when you take down walls and make everything open, everyone will automatically work together and be happy," says Kowalchuk, "but obviously, there are situations that demand privacy. We certainly used a lot of glass in these conference spaces, but we also outfitted them with the flexibility to be made private." Here is a closer look at three projects from HDR that address conferencing and collaborative work spaces in unique ways. the roslin institute The new, 152,000-square-foot building for The Roslin Institute in Midlothian, Scotland co-locates several research institutions, which require a variety of integrated conferencing spaces that would facilitate teaming opportunities not just during scheduled meetings, but also for chance encounters. To encourage these collaborations, the design team linked the lab wing and the office wing with a central "interaction zone," making conferencing a thread that connects the two areas instead of a separate destination. Spaces located in this interaction zone include (per floor): one 20-person conference room, one 12-person conference room, two 8-person conference rooms, a library, a café, privacy "quiet rooms" and informal touchdown space. "At Roslin, the challenge was ensuring that the conference spaces would be used as intended," explains Brian Norkus, design principal at HDR. "Scientists used to long hours of focused research sometimes have problems adjusting to more open, collaborative ways of working. The centrality and accessibility of the 'interaction zone'—right in the middle of the building's main circulation route—ensure that the conference spaces will be well used." "Bright colors, natural light and transparency were used to attract researchers to the collaborative space," Norkus continues. "The spectrum of colors along with the technology provided enhances wayfinding, allowing researchers to easily understand which room provides them with the type of equipment, acoustics and privacy they need, along with the ultimate location within the facility." unilever At Unilever, the main concern was changing the culture from the traditional office model to a new model that incorporated the work style of mobile workers— transients from distributed teams who touch down in their work group's neighborhood—[which required] a larger quantity of smaller conference rooms and more informal conferencing spaces," says Allison Arnone, principal facility planner with HDR. "We educated the client on the benefits of embracing new ways of working and offering choices in activity settings—increased productivity, employee satisfaction, creativity, etc. The client embraced these ideas." The 10,000-square-foot interior renovation of Unilever's IT department in Englewood, N.J., required technology-rich spaces that would allow users to plug into technology instantly and easily, and would accommodate the department's "15-minute meeting" style—smaller groups meeting for shorter times. Arnone says the IT group rarely hosts visitors, but video conferences with other offices are common, so "video booths" and group video rooms were an important element of the program. Other conference rooms include: one 12-person conference room, one 8-person conferencing room, and a coffee bar and employee lounge space, which accommodates impromptu, informal meetings. Despite the variety of informal spaces, the inclusion of the semi-formal, 12-person conference room—dubbed the "war room"—gives the team a space that they "own," for IT business only. Unilever's workspace is colorful, bright and energetic, communicating the idea that it is a fun place to work. The client wanted employees to be immersed in their brand, according to Arnone. This included lots of display opportunities for Unilever's consumer products, as well as larger-than-life wall graphics that depict customers engaging with the company's products. imclone ImClone features a more understated, contemporary look, and the client specified glass for most of the conferencing rooms to encourage researchers from other disciplines to "crash the party," according to Scott Kimble, senior project architect at HDR. Views to the New York City skyline and the East River energize meetings held in the main boardroom or huddled in one of the "think tanks," he adds. Kimble says that the challenge at ImClone was distributing limited technological program elements for users located on multiple floors. "The client had their own model for conference spaces, but it was designed for one floor. This model was adapted for the four-story space, locating and connecting spaces of different scales and capabilities with open stairs and informal, inviting meeting spaces that feature soft seating, media areas, mail and pantry areas, and provide an environment of intuitive wayfinding and exploration." ImClone was also looking for innovative solutions to minimize the size and impact of non-research spaces. The design team developed a free-address office system, where over two-thirds of the office population did not have dedicated office seating. Support spaces, including various size conference rooms and technology-enabled think tanks, intended for cross-disciplinary brainstorming, were provided to allow individuals a varying degree of privacy and allowed for both formal and informal meetings. technology usage While support for wireless internet is the norm, the needs of each of HDR's clients varied, so technological solutions had to be custom-tailored. For the IT department at Unilever, for example, all rooms had to support the ability to "work anywhere"—instant plug-ins, instant connecting, video conferencing, live meetings, etc. However, for most clients, there are a variety of both high-tech and low-tech conference spaces. At ImClone and Roslin, the boardrooms are capable of video conferencing to multiple locations, and include an above-ceiling projector and projection screen. ImClone's think tank spaces are technology-enabled, including a central table for AV connection and wire management and a flat-panel monitor located on an electronic lift within an adjacent credenza. However, for local meetings, sometimes low-tech solutions such as whiteboards serve the needs of the group just as well. In addition to whiteboards and Polycom systems, most rooms include wall-mounted LCD monitors, and specific rooms include video conferencing and built-in projection capabilities. The Roslin Institute also incorporates raised access flooring into the design, allowing wires and cables to run through the conference areas without the visual nuisance. They also use vertically fritted glass (in a DNA pattern, a motif at Roslin) to indicate the use of glass and to incorporate a modicum of privacy. If that's not enough, the rooms are equipped with integral privacy blinds to give users control over when and how much privacy they need. At ImClone, an operable theater-grade curtain (with "sound soak" centerpiece) surrounding the main board room also helps to achieve a similar effect: increased visual and acoustical privacy on demand. the future As you might expect, Kimble predicts that technology will drive how conference spaces evolve in the future. "The need to instantaneously connect with clients and colleagues in other time zones and at varied times will require the power of connection be placed with the individual," he says. "Laptops, notebooks and smartphones will increasingly become the main vehicle for patching into meetings, meaning that 'conference space' will likely become 'whatever place it is that you happen to be.'" Kimble notes that appropriate lighting and acoustical solutions will begin to be considered in spaces not traditionally considered for meetings (workstations, cafeteria, Starbucks). Arnone predicts work environments themselves will become more collaborative, with less assigned space for specific employees. "Distributed conferencing space will continue to be a trend. Traditionally, conferencing spaces were located with the departments they were serving," she says. "Now you're seeing a more distributed model, and you'll see it continue as employees become more mobile, employees move to different offices, employees change professions and teams incorporate employees from different departments." CONTACT: back to top HDR 8404 Indian Hills Drive Omaha, NE 68114-4098 (800) 366-4411 www.hdrinc.com Brian Kowalchuk design director Allison Arnone principal facility planner Scott Kimble senior project architect Brian Norkus design principal Related Articles Product 360: Little Perillo by Dauphin Product Expose: Essence by Big Ass Fans


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· Development and delivery of services and training proposals, offerings in such a way as to promote and support the generation of license revenue through the acquisition of new clients.
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· Prepare and present implementation services proposals that feed the Division's Services pipeline, allowing maximum utilization of resources at maximized rates and margin.
· Prepare Statements of Work which accurately capture responsibilities of Client and Lawson ensure successful implementations.
· Act as key interface between the Sales force services and training managers on custom programs developed.
· Negotiate Services Agreement and help prepare documents that reflect contractual relationship between Lawson and Client.
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· Participate in regular pipeline reviews with the sales force to understand upcoming events and timing, roles and priorities.
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· Meet regularly with Delivery team to develop qualified prospects, establishing relationships with influential consulting and business partners and servicing customers.
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· Meet regularly with Delivery team to develop qualified prospects, establishing relationships with influential consulting and business partners and servicing customers.
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· Complete weekly call/expense reports, updating the marketing files, monthly forecasts, sales leads, win/loss reports, and all other activities directed by management.
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