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Altuve's four hits in return not enough vs. Nats
Keuchel takes rare loss despite rally sparked by second baseman
WASHINGTON -- Not even the return of Jose Altuve, who banged out a career-high-tying four hits Tuesday night in his triumphant return to the lineup, was enough to rescue the Astros.
Astros starter Dallas Keuchel experienced only his second loss in his past eight starts after allowing a season-high-tying four earned runs and four walks, also a season high, in five innings as the Nats held off a late Houston charge to win, 6-5, at Nationals Park.
Altuve, who was out of the starting lineup last weekend against the Rays after he was struck on the hand by a pitch Thursday in Houston, went 4-for-5, including a two-run double in the eighth inning that brought the Astros within a run of the Nationals, who had led, 6-1.
But the Nationals' bullpen shut the door, as Aaron Barrett retired George Springer to end the eighth and strand Altuve at second base, and closer Rafael Soriano pitched around a one-out walk in the ninth to nail down his 14th save.
"Great job of battling," Astros manager Bo Porter said. "That's a really good bullpen they have over there with [Drew] Storen and [Tyler] Clippard and Soriano, and for us to be able to mount the comeback which we were able to have in the [eighth] inning, I'm really proud of our guys."
The Astros were 5-for-14 with runners in scoring position and stranded 11 on base. They loaded the bases with no outs in the fourth inning against starter Tanner Roark (6-4) but managed only one run, when Matt Dominguez hit a comebacker off the leg of Roark, scoring Altuve.
"You look at the difference in the ballgame, it's their ability to hit with men in scoring position early in the game," Porter said. "We let some opportunities slip away early in the game with men in scoring position."
Altuve's four hits pushed his Major League-leading total to 94. He hit into a double play in the first inning before having hits in his next four at-bats, including two doubles, to raise his batting average to .326.
"Altuve, what more can you say?" Porter said. "This guy, he can hit. It doesn't matter who's out there. He's one of the best hitters in baseball."
Keuchel said nothing surprised him when it came to Altuve.
"He's a legit All-Star, and he's our MVP," Keuchel said. "With him missing a few days and coming back, I didn't expect anything less than a couple of hits. That's just what he does. There's nothing that surprises me anymore about that guy."
Keuchel has built a pretty good All-Star resume himself and entered Tuesday having won six of his previous seven decisions. He needed 105 pitches to throw five innings on a muggy and hot night, marking his shortest start since he went five innings on April 5.
"We got some good pitches to hit," Nats outfielder Ryan Zimmerman said. "[Keuchel]'s a good pitcher. You've got to make him get the ball up. He's got a lot of movement. He's been really good this year. We did a good job of getting some pitches we could drive with runners in scoring position. We got out to an early lead."
Keuchel said he had to change his uniform three or four times because of sweat.
"It just looked like he never really got in the groove," Porter said. "He left a couple of pitches up and out over the plate to a couple of really good hitters, and they made us pay. It was a high pitch count through five innings for him. He normally attacks the zone a little bit better. He'll be fine."
Keuchel got Nationals leadoff hitter Denard Span to pound a ball into the plate to start the game, but it bounced so high into the air that Keuchel didn't have enough time to field the ball cleanly. Anthony Rendon (2-for-4) followed with an RBI double and later scored in the inning to make it 2-0.
"That was definitely tough because he's so fast," Keuchel said. "He beat that thing into the plate, and I was trying to position myself to where I could grab it barehanded and flip it over with my wrist, and I didn't make the play. Obviously, Rendon hit a good changeup. Other than that, I was battling and trying to find my stuff all night. I felt fortunate to get through five, especially with the way I was pitching and that lineup and the way they were swinging the bat."
Trailing, 6-1, in the eighth, the Astros scored four runs against Clippard on run-scoring singles by Jonathan Villar and Dexter Fowler and a two-run double by Altuve, who did everything he could to keep the Astros from losing consecutive games for the first time since May 31-June 1.
Brian McTaggart is a reporter for MLB.com and writes an MLBlog, Tag's Lines. Follow @brianmctaggart on Twitter. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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North Melbourne's romp over Lions little more than a training run
NORTH MELBOURNE 5.5 8.11 13.18 17.23 (125) d BRISBANE LIONS 1.1 3.2 4.2 6.2 (38)
Goals - North Melbourne: L Thomas 4 A Black 3 B Harvey 2 L Adams 2 D Petrie J Ziebell L Greenwood M Daw S Wright T Goldstein. Brisbane Lions: J Green 3 M Close 2 C Beams.
Best - North Melbourne: Harvey, Gibson, Dal Santo, Thomas, Nahas, Cunnington. Brisbane Lions: Redden, Adcock, Golby, Lester, Aish, Green.
Umpires: Jacob Mollison, Dean Margetts, Robert O'Gorman.
Venue: Etihad Stadium.
The signs weren't good for Brisbane well before North Melbourne veteran Brent Harvey posted the first goal seven minutes into Saturday night's game at Etihad Stadium.
Before even the first bounce, as a matter of fact, with the Lions losing key defender Joel Patfull and their best on-baller in Tom Rockliff. Then within a couple of minutes of the start, by which time the Roos had already missed a couple of scoring chances and Harvey and Nick Dal Santo had racked up a dozen touches between them.
Harvey's first major was merely tangible acknowledgement of North Melbourne's dominance and the lop-sided contest that was to follow. And so it proved.
It was two goals after 12 minutes, four before time-on, and five before the Lions' Josh Green managed to post the visiting side's solitary goal of the opening term, the point which preceded it having staved off Brisbane's first scoreless opening term since 1993.
The second quarter would follow a similar pattern, the first three goals to the Roos putting them as much as 51 points up before a couple in time-on from Brisbane late inclusion Michael Close reduced the gap to 39 points at the long break.
That Brisbane was even that close was a small wonder, and due as much to the Roos' profligacy in front of goal as any belated resistance by Brisbane - the lack of pressure applied by the Lions on the ball carrier and general sluggishness apparent very early in the piece.
And for North, Harvey was far from the only grateful recipient. He was one of three Roos to have racked up 20 disposals or more by half-time - Sam Gibson leading the way with 22, and Dal Santo also having a picnic.
Skipper Andrew Swallow, in his first game for nearly a year, couldn't have asked for a more accommodating return, putting together a neat 18 disposals until he was subbed out of the game for Ryan Bastinac at three-quarter time. And up forward, the likes of Aaron Black and Lindsay Thomas knew they were going to get plenty of opportunities.
The gulf between the teams was evident even when Brisbane did get its hands on the pill, the Lions managing to waste what few scoring chances came their way, and generally make a meal of their field disposal, too. It was sad at times watching the towering figure of Jonathan Brown lumbering around the Lions' forward line struggling for touch and touches.
At least he avoided being the subject of an embarrassing howler. Like when Pearce Hanley won himself a free kick with a lovely tackle for a hold-the-ball decision only to gift the spoils straight back to the Roos.
Or when Daniel Merrett marked at least 20 metres in the clear but somehow failed to see Drew Petrie coming at him. From that spill, North's Shaun Atley kicked the ball off the ground to himself, easily slipped a half-hearted tackle from young Lion Darcy Gardiner, and set up another opportunity for Jack Ziebell.
Midway through the first term, the Lions had somehow managed to scrape together half a dozen inside 50 entries, as many as the Roos. Far more telling, though, was the figure at that moment for marks inside 50 - five for North, zip for Brisbane.
Neither would Close's little cameo at the end of the second term provide any encouragement. It was business as usual after the long break, the Roos posting the first four of the quarter before the Lions eked out one in response, the margin now threatening to blow out towards three figures.
Apart from that perverse satisfaction, the excitement by now for North fans was about individuals. About how former Tiger Robin Nahas continues to add something to the mix with his speed and tackling pressure. And the sheer excitement provided by the magnificent athletic specimen that is Majak Daw. The latter might have finished with four or five goals had his kicking boots been on, but what was clear enough is that he has plenty to offer.
As do the Roos, of course. But exactly how much we're only to get a better idea of next Friday night when North takes on Geelong at Simonds Stadium. That will be some sort of challenge. This pasting, in contrast, wasn't much more than a training run.
Rohan Connolly, a senior football writer for The Age and radio broadcaster with sports radio station 1116 SEN, has been covering the game since 1983. A multi-AFL Media Association award-winner known for his passion and love of the game, he analyses the AFL for the newspaper and contributes a blog and weekly video, "Footy Fix", for The Age's football website, Real Footy.
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Blue Jays claim Hottovy
The TORONTO BLUE JAYS have claimed LHP TOMMY HOTTOVY off waivers from the Texas Rangers.
HOTTOVY, 31, traded to Texas from Kansas City on November 12, appeared in nine games for the Royals last season, recording a 2.89 ERA in 9.1 innings. In 41 games with Omaha in the PCL (AAA) the left-hander posted a 2-2 mark with seven saves and a 2.52 ERA, including 61 strikeouts in 50.0 innings. The 4th round choice of the Red Sox in the 2004 draft has appeared in 17 Major League games with Boston (2011) and Kansas City (2012) posting a 4.05 ERA.
To make room on the 40-man roster RHP CHAD BECK was designated for assignment.


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A WINCHESTER commuter has joined the chorus of disapproval over the safety of women at Winchester's revamped station car park.
The much-vaunted £3.7 million scheme includes a double-decked open air car park and over-rail bridge with lifts, but some travellers have said they are concerned about personal safety at night.
Resident Joanna Lewis, 46, an assistant professor of history at the London School of Economics, uses the station to get to London three times a week.
Pictured above: The new two-tier car park.
She said: "We have been badly let down by the design of the metal two-tier car park on the Andover Road side.
"By putting profit first, and very little else second, the result has not only been hideous visually, but it has made the new car park more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists and wheelchair users.
"Serious concerns about personal safety at night have been raised again and again by female commuters, by parents worried about their teenagers using the station, by the retired, and by cyclists."
The station is used by 4.5 million passengers a year, and Chris Holloway, director of Winchester Action on Climate Change (WinACC), said that anything that puts people off walking and cycling is "a bad idea".
She said: "I think it's a great pity that they have made facilities better for people in cars at the expense of making them pleasant for pedestrians and cyclists.
"On the other hand, there is an agreement between the railway and Hampshire County Council to improve pedestrian and cyclist access between Andover Road and the car park, and we are very pleased about that and look forward to it happening."
Recently the station held a two-week trial to open the booking hall on platform two later in the evening to provide an alternative exit.
Ms Lewis added: "By choosing the lowest metal ceiling possible and building barriers around the perimeter, we now have a new symbol in the heart of 'historic' Winchester of urban desolation, and an argument for being twinned with east Croydon!"
Referring to a recent story about the station in the Chronicle, she added: "It's all very well for transport officials to be photographed smiling outside the station on a sunny July day waving flags.
"But I doubt many commuters arriving late on a December evening will be grinning as they face retrieving their car from a parking cage, nor cyclists, heading for the bike cages, nor pedestrians denied a proper, safe path to walk along."
Winchester MP Steve Brine said: "Concerns around safety at the station, especially for passengers arriving back into Winchester late at night, were raised at the ASKSWT meeting I organised, and lots of people are working hard to address the issue.
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McMillan Hall Expansion
McMillan Hall has been completely renovated and expanded to double the size of the IT offices, campus post office, and bookstore.
Jack Jones Field House
A field house for the tennis courts and soccer fields has been constructed. The field house contains meeting rooms, restrooms, showers, and a concession stand.
Robert M. Gillespie Batting Facility
The Kennedy Sports Complex added an indoor batting facility to accommodate baseball and softball practice and training.
Old Cobbler Shop, Hackleton, Student Center
The former facilities building was renovated in 2011 to provide a student center with exercise equipment, game room, TV lounge, and offices for student activities, SGA, and intramural sports.
Joe and Virginia Tatum Theater
The new Joe and Virginia Tatum Theater was dedicated in October of 2010. The nearly $1.4 million facility is over 7,000 square feet and includes a 3,100 square foot black box performance space, a spacious serving room for Carey Dinner Theater, nearly 200 lighting controls, and catwalks for the lighting and sound crew.
The College of Osteopathic Medicine
The College of Osteopathic Medicine complex consists of three buildings. The academic building was completed in the summer of 2010 and contains two lecture halls, classrooms, study rooms, and laboratories. The medical arts building was completed in the fall of 2010 and houses faculty offices, clinical diagnostic and treatment rooms, eight student conference rooms, study areas, and a student lounge. The Asbury Administrative Center was completed in the spring of 2011 and contains administrative offices, faculty offices, and conference rooms.
Tradition Campus
William Carey University dedicated its new Tradition Campus located at the intersection of Mississippi 67 and Highway 605 on August 19, 2009. The new 30-acre campus houses administrative, faculty, and registrar offices; an open air student lounge; bookstore; library and computer lab. It features state-of-the-art nursing school facilities with lecture, lab, exam, psychiatric study, exam, and treatment rooms. Over 30 general classrooms and science labs are included. There is also a new gatehouse and maintenance building. The $14 million Phase I project has 58,559 square feet. The WCU-Tradition Campus was a 2009 Merit Award Winner in the institutional category by the Mississippi Associated Builders and Contractors.
Sarah Ellen Gillespie Museum
The new Sarah Ellen Gillespie Museum was dedicated in April of 2009 as an expansion of the Smith Rouse Library on the Hattiesburg campus. The museum houses the largest collection of artwork by Mississippians in the state. Donated by Sarah Gillespie of Hattiesburg, the collection includes works by Theora Hamblet, Kate Freeman Clark, William Merritt Chase, Ethel Mohammad, and Walter Anderson.
Fail-Asbury School of Nursing Building Expansion
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CBS Sports Radio Finalizes Lineup As Launch of Nationwide Network Approaches
Chris Moore And Brian Jones Named Weekday Evening Show Hosts, Debuting Live On Wednesday, January 2, 2013
CBS Sports Radio, the new around-the-clock national sports network, will begin broadcasting over the airwaves of more than 100 stations on Wednesday, Jan. 2, 2013, at 12:00AM Midnight, with Scott Ferrall's "Ferrall on the Bench." The network's original programming will reach more than 10 million listeners upon launch. CBS Sports Radio will feature expert sports commentary and interviews with major sports figures, along with listener calls, fan interaction and hourly updates from well-known contributors.
Today, CBS Sports Radio announces veteran play-by-play announcer and experienced radio host Chris Moore, and former football player and current CBS Sports Network analyst Brian Jones, have been named as hosts of CBS Sports Radio's evening show, rounding out the lineup of the network. The duo, who will be based out of a studio in Tribeca in New York City, will be heard on select stations, including WIP-AM (Philadelphia), WFOM-AM (Atlanta), WXYT-AM (Detroit), WJZ-AM (Baltimore), KJQS-AM (Salt Lake City), and WSJZ-FM (Orlando), weekdays from 6:00-10:00PM/EST on-air, streaming online and through the Radio.com application for mobile devices.
With the announcement of Moore and Jones, CBS Sports Radio has announced its full, comprehensive weekday schedule:
6:00-9:00AM: Tiki Barber, Brandon Tierney and Dana Jacobson
9:00AM-12:00Noon: John Feinstein
12:00Noon-3:00PM: Jim Rome
3:00-6:00PM: Doug Gottlieb
6:00-10:00PM: Chris Moore and Brian Jones
10:00PM-2:00AM: Scott Ferrall
2:00-6:00AM: Damon Amendolara
Eric Spitz, Director of Programming, CBS Sports Radio commented, "Chris and Brian make the perfect addition to our already stellar lineup at CBS Sports Radio. As soon as we heard the chemistry between Moore and Jones, we knew we had found both a winning formula, as well as our night show." He added, "With their appointment, we are getting ready to kick off the network and give listeners a brand-new, one stop network for the latest sports news, covering local and national topics, with the most knowledgeable and experienced hosts, on a platform optimized for nationwide audience interaction."
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By Eli Helmuth
From: Ciales, PR
Aug 22, 2010
C'mon guys-
putting in bolts 2 feet off a popular trail in RMNP on a weekend in the middle of summer is a TERRIBLE IDEA!
Couldn't you find a rock AWAY FROM THE TRAIL for these antics...on a 40' wall?!?!
Some public opinion polls have ranked climbing 3rd, behind mining and forestry as the most destructive activities on our public lands...bolting off a very busy tourist trail only fosters this misconception.
By Charles Vernon
From: Tucson, AZ
Aug 22, 2010
|I totally agree with Eli. This route must have taken hours of loud hammering right next to a very popular tourist trail. Isn't this basically how bolting got banned in the Flatirons?
By Allen Hill
From: FIve Points, Colorado and Pine
Aug 22, 2010
|Bad idea.
By dakotahills
Aug 22, 2010
"Guideline #1: don't be a jerk"
and furthermore this isn't RIGHT next to the trail, and so what if people see it!? Maybe it will encourage them to try something new. I'm pretty sure that for the 5 minutes of the hike that people could hear the hammering, they were probably pretty curious and intrigued.
By Patrick Vernon
From: Estes Park, CO
Aug 22, 2010
I saw this route the other day on the way to Sharkstooth. I don't get it, who is going to climb it? An hour hike from Glacier Gorge (whose parking lot is chronically full anyway, so tack on 20 mins in the shuttle) for one 50' sport route? Are you planning other routes on this wall? It is 20 feet from the trail, in a very high profile area, will probably only very rarely get done, and is frankly a bit of an eyesore with chalked x's and the whole nine yards; why was this put up? Loch Vale is not the Sport Park. The hangers were not camo'ed.
I know I know, guideline #1, but these are valid questions, do you plan on putting in more routes?
-Patrick Vernon
By cletus blum
From: Boulder, Colorado
Aug 22, 2010
I do realize that the climb is very close to the trail and will inherently attract some attention. I have walked up to the Loch Vale a few times just to turn around due to weather. The motivation to put a climb here was not to create a sport climbing wall but to have something to play on while in the area. The goal was not to offend anyone but to simply put up a new route for people to try while they were in the Loch Vale Area. When talking with the rangers they seemed to have no problems with the route, if they had we would have not put it up.
~Cletus Blum
By Kevin Craig
Aug 23, 2010
Uh, yeah. People will be inspired to try climbing for the first time on an 11b/c route? Verdict: Ego route. Penalty: Back to the gym, boyz.
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By Ryan Jennings
Aug 23, 2010
This is a question that should be discussed. Thousands of climbers have walked by this wall for years and we've all entertained thoughts of lines here. What held us back? We may have been lazy, thought bolts wrong, or thought the climb was just trivial. I would imagine most were on there way to a serious objective loaded with a full rack of cams looking for an adventure because that is what RMNP is about...adventure. It used to be that was what climbing was about...adventure.
Climbing has certainly changed, and this is a prime example of where we are headed if we don't discuss these matters. In RMNP, why do we need more "access to climbing"? We are surrounded by it, and there are many many walls with better access than an 1.5hr hike. Why do we need more bolts in an area surrounded by natural routes of any length you want?
I support the authors desire to establish a new route, but you will never truly feel what, I think many would argue, climbing is really about until you put the bolt gun away and simply climb. Bring a hand drill if you have to. It will force you to think about how important it really is that you put that hole in the rock. Study and search and find a new line that doesn't require a bolt every four feet. There are plenty out there, but you will have to be skilled and possibly bold. Climb from the ground up and feel your way. You will have to know how to downclimb. You may even have to learn how to hook! Talk about adventure and inspiration!
If you want to impress the tourists, let them see you hanging 400ft up a new route taking wippers off the roof your desperately trying to find a piece above. Seeing you whip then get back up and send will certainly inspire them.
I agree lame to bolt a short route, with a power drill, by the main trail, mark Xs, take photos of the drilling (I see this all the time, it's like posing with your cool car), and spray about it.
Don't get me wrong I've placed a few bolts too, but I always feel better when I don't and I understand the impacts I'm leaving behind and have thoroughly discussed the merit of doing such. The merits can only be decided upon in your own head, but I certainly hope in the future we aspire to develop more routes that push the "limits" of the sport rather than push the "number" of routes we have. Think about it!
By JPVallone
Aug 23, 2010
Your plan worked,
You have totally inspired the recreational hikers of RMNP, and tourists everywhere to start climbing. It was kind of a bummer, but I went up to wrestle all 40ft of this masterpiece but after the crowded shuttle and overcrowded trail on the way in. It was to my surprise, that all these folks on the bus with me were headed up to wrestle this proj as well. It sucked, I had to cue up, and there just wasn't enough room for all of us. I waited 45 minutes just to get my turn on this visionary stepping stone. I didn't even get a chance to send, there were so many people waiting to climb, we had to enforce a one hang rule and you're out.
I saw a whole family, grandparents and all, they were only going up to the lake for there picnic, some photos, and hopes of taking some photographs, but they actually brought there rack and draws all the way up so they too could do something else while up in the area.
Thanks for helping to fuel our sport and market to the less exposed folks who might never of climbed, now thanks to this beauty of a route, climbing numbers will sure explode. It's just crazy you only put one line in, if we had more there, we could accomodate so many others, and this could truly become a trail side social landmark.
P.S. Why didn't you just top rope it for something to do if you needed to climb it that bad? Was it that big of a deal that you needed to lead it?
P.S.S. I wonder why after generations and countless thousands of incredible climbers have walked past this over more years than I have been alive, has it never been bolted before? Why it took countless years and visionary sportos in 2010 to actually see this pebble's potential???
By Tom Halicki
From: Boulder, CO
Aug 23, 2010
|Bad idea. Not very mature judgment.
By Bill Duncan
From: Jamestown, CO
Aug 23, 2010
|60 feet tall = top rope. Why are bolts other than top rope anchors necessary?
By Andy Novak
From: Golden, Co
Aug 23, 2010
Wow...just, wow. Good job guys, whoever you are, for putting up the most retarded route I have ever seen. What are your real names?
EDIT: In the future, stick to Boulder Canyon and STAY OUT OF THE PARK.
By blakeherrington
Aug 23, 2010
There's a big difference between style and ethics.
These guys didn't leave any trash, fixed ropes, fixed draws, etc. They didn't use a power drill, or violate NPS laws. They strived to follow all explicit 'rules'. I think it's important that critics of the route realize this.
That being said, the style of the route isn't really in line with the area. Why not talk with some prolific locals to learn about a possible tradition of bolt-free TR climbing on this and other small, highly visible walls? If your goal is merely to develop some sport routes, there are thousands of potential bolted face climbs around that (although often not particularly high quality...) would satisfy that desire in a less-visible area, much closer to the road. If you want to establish new routes in RMNP, the potential is vast as well, but do so in the tradition of the area, not by turning trailside escarpments into Sport-Park simulators. It's great that folks put the time and money into developing sport climbs, and make the effort to comply with NPS Laws, but consider the possibility that such endeavors are best done in locations with a tradition of similar climbs.
If Mountain Project didn't exist, and this route wouldn't have been 'recorded' anywhere, would it still have been bolted?
By justin dubois
From: Estes Park
Aug 23, 2010
|"When talking with the rangers they seemed to have no problems with the route, if they had we would have not put it up."...those Rangers don't have the slightest f'n clue about the ethics and traditions of climbing in RMNP.
By pfwein
From: Boulder, CO
Aug 23, 2010
Eli H. wrote "Some public opinion polls have ranked climbing 3rd, behind mining and forestry as the most destructive activities on our public lands."
Do you have a link to those polls--I spent a bit of time trying to find them online and couldn't.
I don't have an opinion on the route one way or the other, but my experiences with non-climbing tourists is that they either don't care much one way or the other, or, more commonly, regard it as at least a mildly interesting activity (how do you get the ropes up there . . .).
Bolts seem to bother a certain sub-species of climbers. If you're one of the climbers (and sometimes I am), fine, but let's not pretend that you're somehow the defender of Ma, Pa, and Junior Tourist who are bothered by the bolts. Ma, Pa, and Junior couldn't care less.
By David A
From: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Aug 23, 2010
|Pfwein's got the right idea. I'm not going to get any deeper into this argument than that.
By Greg D
From: Here
Aug 24, 2010
Holy Fack! What were you thinking.
So, for those that have never been there:
Sunday, 3 am, we wake up to drive 2 hours to the Glacier Gorge parking lot to begin an amazing adventure into some of the most pristine and well-protected land in the country. After about an hour and a half of hiking in the dark, we shut off our headlamps. It is just barely light enough to see without them, though I'm still asleep. We are in a field of wild flowers, a crystal clear steam babbles near by, fresh pine is in the air, and I see a herd of elk grazing only 30 feet away. Then, smack dap in front of me I see what appears to be a sport route. What the fack. I must be dreaming, or having a nightmare. This is so bizarre. A sport route complete with shiny bolts and chalk right in front of me only a few feet from the trail in one of the most beautiful places on earth.
This is not a sport/trad thing or a "you bolted my crack". This is just the most inappropriately placed routes EVER.
1. Placing non-camo'd bolts=bad.
2. Planning on camo'ing after the fact=bad.
3. Leaving chalked x's=bad.
4. If climbed regularly, it will get chalked up=bad.
5. Claiming it was to inspire others. Umm, an 11b/c route in the pristine national forest to inspire= retarded.
6. Having RMNP officials approval means nothing. They simply have to consider whether you are violating any laws, rules, and regs of the park. Not whether this is a good idea or bad one=bad.
7. You already toproped this one. Then bolt it?=bad.
8. First ascents are considered courage, talent, vision, thoughtful consideration, and art. Most first ascentionists are very proud of their work and own it. Why is your full name not listed here?=very bad.
This route is the most poorly thought route ever simply based on location. If you must place a sport route in RMNP, there are miles and miles of huge rock walls off the beaten path. Some may make perfect sport crags. This is not one of them.
Please consult with officials about the regs on removing hardware and do so right away. This would be=good.
By Chris Beh
Aug 24, 2010
Bolting a route right over the trail is short sighted and way too high profile. Look at the kerfuffle (cool German word meaning, roughly, a temptest in a teapot) going on here. If you put up a route off the trail, none of this conversation would be happening.
There is an amazing amount of cragging potential in Loch Vale for short, bolt-protected climbs. If it was an area where a power drill could be used at will, there could be hundreds of routes up there. I don't really care if a route is done ground up or top down as long as it is a good route and tastefully bolted, i.e. no bolts by safe gear placements. Hand drilling is naturally self-limiting regarding over-bolting.
To the energetic boys who put up this route, go find a crag off the trail up there where you can do your work in privacy. It will save you a lot of scolding.
By Malcolm Daly
From: Boulder, CO
Aug 24, 2010
|Nice job, guys. Not only have you totally hacked the traditional ethics of RMNP alpine, you've also introduced the trashy, naming ethics use at the worst of the sport climbing piles. Golden Shower Wall? Classy.... You should be so proud.
By EDGE
From: Between Nederland and Boulder,
Aug 24, 2010
|What a terrible decision to bolt a route here! The best solution would be for the FAists to remove the bolts themselves and repair the holes, before someone else does it and starts a mean spirited ethics war in the Park that would only serve to paint climbers in a bad light. This route is definitely not worth having that happen. Let them keep the route name for the resultant top rope if they want to.
By dakotahills
Aug 24, 2010
|There seems to be a lot of ego involved here with these comments, and it makes you all look like a bunch of climbing gangsters. I'm sure the forefathers of climbing would be proud of the bullying taking place here. LIVE AND LET LIVE.
By ryanhd
Aug 24, 2010
Everyone who has been posting here and getting all bent out of shape about this climb needs to go re-read PFWEIN's post and reflect upon the truth of that statement. Hikers, rangers, tourists, campers - these people neither chop bolts nor care AT ALL about them being there. I would also venture to say that 90% of the climbing community is ambivalent as well.
Why do a few people think they can go around threatening the FAists with things like "remove the bolts, before someone else does," simply because it doesn't align with their notion of what climbing is supposed to be about? Climbing is a personal experience and everyone is allowed to manifest that experience how they so choose. If someone else's experience (i.e., sport climbing in RMNP) isn't to your liking, that's fine, but don't be a bully and threaten to chop down their bolts. This form of bigotry is no different than any other.
If you want the bolts down, go about it the right way. If you want your unspoken "ethics and traditions" to be legitimized and protected within the park, take actual proactive steps towards making that happen. Talk to local officials, form an action committee that can approve or disapprove new fixed hardware in the Park, and arrive at a consensus together. In the mean time, realize that this climb was put up in total compliance with RMNP regulations and guidelines, and that as of now, it has as much of a right to be in the Park as any other route.
By Scotty P
Aug 24, 2010
rating: 5.0 2- 4 I 6 MM 1c X
We've dealt with this exact scenario before, and the FAists need to remove the bolts ASAP. Despite RyanHD's assertion that hikers and other recreationalists do not mind seeing bolts and chalk on cliffs and rocks, the truth is they do. And they are vocal, and can become active in speaking out against it.
Any visitors to the area, be they hikers, rangers, recreationalists or climbers, have a right to not have their own "personal experience" diluted by seeing some chalk and metal all over an otherwise pristine rock or sector.
While everyone can agree that climbing will be allowed for a long time in RMNP, acts like this one can cause access issues for specific sectors, rocks, cliffs or hardware.
There is plenty of FA glory available in RMNP that is not directly off a popular hiking trail. I think it prudent of the FAists to remove the hardware, repair the rock, and use their tools to take advantage of the many other opportunities in RMNP.
By Andy Novak
From: Golden, Co
Aug 24, 2010
|Hey, Ryan, you joined this site 4 hours ago. Much like the Boy Scouts who put up this nightmare of a route, you have no idea what you're talking about. Look at the people who have commented; Helmuth, Daly, Hill, these are pillars of the local community. "Golden Shower Wall?" Really? You guys have a lot to learn. Like I said above, atrocities like this belong in Boulder Canyon. Man up, and take out the bolts.
By Ben Cassedy
From: Denver, CO
Aug 24, 2010
"If you want the bolts down, go about it the right way. If you want your unspoken "ethics and traditions" to be legitimized and protected within the park, take actual proactive steps towards making that happen. Talk to local officials, form an action committee that can approve or disapprove new fixed hardware in the Park, and arrive at a consensus together. In the mean time, realize that this climb was put up in total compliance with RMNP regulations and guidelines, and that as of now, it has as much of a right to be in the Park as any other route." - ryanhd
Yeah, that's the ticket. Let's get park officials involved because we can't settle our silly squabbles ourselves. They will surely look upon us with favor and be honored to adjudicate our disputes.
Isn't voicing legitimate criticism over the route an 'actual and proactive step' towards a solution? Especially when it's done on an open forum in direct dialogue with the bolters? Isn't there already an overwhelming consensus that this route was a bad idea? Why do I feel like I'm talking to an 18-20 year old?
Speaking of that, how old are you guys who bolted this route? This thing has juvenile-male-testosterone written all over it.
And I say all of this as an avid sport climber.
By Greg D
From: Here
Aug 25, 2010
ryanhd said:
"Everyone who has been posting here and getting all bent out of shape about this climb needs to go re-read PFWEIN's post and reflect upon the truth of that statement. Hikers, rangers, tourists, campers - these people neither chop bolts nor care AT ALL about them being there. I would also venture to say that 90% of the climbing community is ambivalent as well.
Why do a few people think they can go around threatening the FAists with things like "remove the bolts, before someone else does," simply because it doesn't align with their notion of what climbing is supposed to be about? Climbing is a personal experience and everyone is allowed to manifest that experience how they so choose. If someone else's experience (i.e., sport climbing in RMNP) isn't to your liking, that's fine, but don't be a bully and threaten to chop down their bolts. This form of bigotry is no different than any other.
If you want the bolts down, go about it the right way. If you want your unspoken "ethics and traditions" to be legitimized and protected within the park, take actual proactive steps towards making that happen. Talk to local officials, form an action committee that can approve or disapprove new fixed hardware in the Park, and arrive at a consensus together. In the mean time, realize that this climb was put up in total compliance with RMNP regulations and guidelines, and that as of now, it has as much of a right to be in the Park as any other route."
Umm, not fooling anybody with your profile a few seconds old. You must be mav or the other "fa" that doesn't take pride in your work or own. But you can create a new profile to make it look like someone else supports your route. Lame.
By Peter Beal
From: Boulder Colorado
Aug 25, 2010
Although I agree that the location of this route could be seen as an issue, I think that some of the comments on this route are getting out of hand. There is no reason that, as Chris Beh has pointed out above, that there could not be some amazing and otherwise unprotectable sport climbs on various formations throughout the park. If the local "ethic" is suddenly saying that the entire park is off limits to bolts placed on rappel or too many bolts or something else (it's not too clear exactly what the issue is here), then there ought to be some better effort to develop a consensus. As far as I can tell, the FAists of this climb followed the rules of the actual park and while they may have been somewhat hamhanded about how they went about it, I don't see why that matters.
If you don't like sportclimbing, then start with chopping Tommy Caldwell's Sarchasm to make your point. Is PTH coming under fire because a. it's close to a trail, b. it's rappel bolted or c. it's too easy, put up by unknowns, and otherwise irks people? If the problem is crowds or less adventure in the park or some other more nebulous concern, I doubt that Pushing Two Hundred is going to attract anything like the numbers that are drawn to the usual trade routes in the park, every day, all summer long.
By Greg D
From: Here
Aug 25, 2010
The discussion continues here:
By Robert Buswold
From: Northglenn, CO
Aug 25, 2010
|Peter: I think one of the big issues here (and the one I am most concerned with) is that RMNP is supposed to be a natural haven for people who want to get out and enjoy the mountains. Of course there are the roads into the park and the composting toilets in the backcountry, but do we really need fixed metal bolts on a rock just feet from the trail? I don't see any reason in adding to all the other unnatural features (i.e. toilets/roads/bridges) in the park. Even if only one or two people climb this route they will still inevitably leave behind all their chalk marks on the holds. Is that something you'd like to see on a trail in RMNP?
By dakotahills
Aug 25, 2010
|This is seriously getting pathetic, you men love your drama. MOVE ON.
By Patrick Vernon
From: Estes Park, CO
Aug 25, 2010
I think the proper response to your question is d: This route is the worst representation of the history, ethics, and traditions of climbing in Rocky Mountain National Park in the most visible area to date that I can think of (to both climbers and non-climbers).
The debate is not one of sport vs. trad, but rather three things: how we wish to represent our sport in the context of Rocky, quality control, and the future of first ascents in the Park. I feel this route crossed a line of sorts, but like most lines it is hard to ascertain exactly where the line should be drawn, hence the room for debate.
At the end of the day, the route just isn't that good. It is literally the worst quality sport route I can think of in the entire national park (including Lumpy Ridge), and it is also one of the most visible. This ain't no Sarchasm. The rock quality is poor, the upper part looks like it was heavily scraped to remove moss and lichen, and the chalk will probably not come off in the rain in spots. It simply wasn't necessary, was done without any sort of community consensus (apart from the immediate friends of the developers?) and does have the potential to cast climbing in a very negative light.
There is potential for more lines on this wall (in the .12-.13 range), and I wouldn't be surprised if it was the developers plan to bolt these as well. Unfortunately/fortunately these lines directly overhang the trail and should not be bolted. While I appreciate people playing devil's advocate, and even empathize that the cascade of negative attention is probably very frustrating for the developers; I am really glad the community came together and let these people know that this is not right, this is not the way we want to portray our sport in Rocky, and that at the very least no more routes should be put in on this wall. The developers can dismiss the community voice, call it pathetic etc., but in the end they are really just digging themselves a deeper hole.
-Patrick Vernon
By Brent Apgar
From: Out of the Loop
Aug 25, 2010
There's not much else that I could say that hasn't already been voiced.
Personally I would have to say that, regardless of the bolters intentions and whether or not the route complies w/ RMNP regulations, this was not the best idea and would ask that the developers please remove the route.
By JPVallone
Aug 26, 2010
|PATRICK VERNON +1. Well said in your last post!!!!
By Leo Paik
From: Westminster, Colorado
Aug 26, 2010
Some of the concern regarding this route comes from the history of a similarly bolted route, Superfresh, bolted right over a trail perhaps 1 1/2 miles from a trailhead, which significantly contributed to the complete shutdown of bolting in the Flatirons for about a decade and a half. It took years of ardent efforts on the part of big-time local climbers to enact reasonable change to what we have now.
Admittedly, this is a different park, different land managers, and different times. Nonetheless, fixed hardware is a significant issue within at least some of the National Forest and National Park lands. In some cases, outright banning of new fixed hardware and even replacement of established fixed hardware have been inflicted upon climbers. None of us climbers want this...period.
At least to some degree, those who have voiced their concerns do not want history potentially repeating itself in a cherished area. Everyone here who has posted shares the same love of this park!
Please consider prudent placement of fixed hardware in addition to following regulations and sampling a minority of the climbing community and minority of park officials before acting.
By Stephen Berwanger
From: Montrose, CO
Aug 28, 2010
|Silly sport climbers!!!!!!!
By Steve "Crusher" Bartlett
Aug 31, 2010
Leo Paik and Pat Vernon are right. Bolts, in conspicuous locations, have sometimes closed whole areas. Superfresh in the Flatirons is a scary, local example. In Canyonlands, a line of shiny bolts on Outlaw Spire were spotted by bikers on the White Rim Trail, who complained, leading to the strict 1995 no-bolting rules there.
The rangers and tourists you met might have been polite, but you can be sure there are others who will be rabidly against seeing chalk and bolts, and will complain loudly.
We climbers are privileged to have the freedoms we have. With privilege comes a responsibility not to be "hamhanded." Please remove these trailside bolts, patch the holes. Name the climbs and write 'em up as topropes. Sport climbs would be better located out of direct line of sight from the trail.
By Ryan Nelson
From: Fort Collins, CO
Sep 22, 2010
5.3 right next to the trail?
By tooTALLtim
From: Boulder, CO
Sep 25, 2010
rating: 3rd 1- 1 I 1 M 1a X
This route is in the process of being cleaned up. The hangers are off, the bolts and their holes are next.
"All the tourists that day seemed to be in awe, taking pictures, and not complaining." Funny, they were doing the same thing when we were taking the hangers off. I guess tourists don't know anything about climbing ethics or climbing access issues since putting up or taking down a route elicits the same response.
Timothy Davis
By Sam Miller
From: Boulder, Colorado
Sep 26, 2010
|Plain stupid.
By Mav
From: Madison, CT
Nov 27, 2011
|That article is from Jan. 2010.
By Greg Sievers
From: Bozeman, MT
Feb 28, 2012
I saw the bolts a while back and was extremely disappointed.
We skied up there last month, and while passing by, glanced over to the wall and did not see them.
If they are now all gone = Thank You.
As for 'local review', I heard of none.
However, in the future, if you need a contact person to spread around questions to the local climbing community or RMNP, feel free to ask me. After ten years of volunteer service as an American Alpine Club Chairman, the event originator and organizer of Lumpy Trails Day, 25 years in Estes Park, an Ed's regular, and the receipient of the Access Fund, Sharp End Award for leadership and activism, I am happy to help or assist you to reach your audience.
By Michael Byczynski
From: Denver, CO
Apr 29, 2012
DERRRRRP I can bolt a wall deeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrp.
Get it together guys, golly.


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Penning You Have No Idea was never a plan for the pageant queen turned model turned actress, but adding author to her resume helped Williams and her mother rehash their past together. For any woman who's ever had a challenging relationship with her mom, these chapters open up a new kind of mother/daughter relationship by delving behind the scenes of Vanessa's world of scandal and celebrity.
When did you decide book-writing was for you?
It's been something I've put off. I said, "You know, I've had a hard time. I don't want to do a tell-all, I don't want to do something that's predictable, yet another celebrity, you know 'here's my ten tips to success.' I want to make this compelling, but also my story." And an agent said, "Well, what about doing it with your mom?" and I knew it was a brilliant idea, because I can tell my story and she can tell her story of dealing with me through all these ups and downs and obstacles. It's a story of a mother protecting her child from things.
So how was your mom when you first brought the idea to her?
Well, I kind of pitched it without her even knowing. And then I said, "Well, mom, we are writing a book together," and she was like, "Oh?! Okay."
And how was the writing process with you two?
Well, we chose Irene Zutell to work with and I can pretty much work with anybody, but I wanted to make sure that my mother — who is somewhat hard to please — was happy. Irene came in and she was from Westchester in New York, where I grew up, and her father recently passed. So we were talking about missing our fathers, and she just got my mother. We have a great sense of humor and we look at life in humorous ways, so that's how we were able to get through stuff as a family, and we wanted to make sure that that came across in the book as well.
Was it difficult writing about certain things — like your Miss America scandal — together?
I think we recollect the same incidents differently, so reliving some of the embarrassing moments, shall we say, I wanted to make sure that my part was as vivid and as accurate as possible. And my mother made sure that the reader knew what she was thinking as well, like the time I got caught with my boyfriend in high school.
Were there any parts you had a hard time revealing, digging up from your past?
I revealed what was important to me to illustrate the choices that I made in my life and as a reflection. I talked about the molestation because now, as a mother, I can't imagine that happening to my daughter and her not telling me. Every tidbit that I reveal has something to do with my choices in life and something to do with keeping things from my parents for them to not have to go through more humiliation and disappointment. But through the process of writing the book, I think she kind of understands what I was going through.


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With negotiations between Mexican tomato growers and the U.S. Commerce Department ongoing and apparently seeing some progress, the rhetoric about the consequences of dropping a regulated price floor on imported tomatoes shows no signs of letting up.
Consumers could face sharply higher prices and reduced supplies if the U.S. government terminates a price agreement with Mexican tomato growers and then imposes antidumping duties, according to a new pricing study funded by Mexican tomato interests.
In September, in response to requests from the Florida tomato industry, the Commerce Department announced a tentative plan to terminate a minimum price suspension agreement with Mexican tomato growers that has been in place since 1996.
Since then, a variety of U.S. business, retail and food-producing organizations, including Wal-Mart Stores, National Restaurant Association and Food Marketing Institute, expressed support for retaining the U.S.-Mexico tomato trade pact. The Commerce Department has yet to take final action on terminating the suspension agreement but could do so by spring.
Study shows threat
Adding to the threat of a trade war is a new economic analysis from the Nielsen Perishables Group, paid for by Nogales, Ariz.-based Fresh Produce Association of the Americas, which represents importers of Mexican produce.
The study — at http://savemytomato.com — presents a sobering scenario based on the total or partial withdrawal of Mexican tomatoes from the U.S. market.
The study also looks at the potential market effect if U.S. tomatoes were removed from the market by a weather event at the same time Mexico was excluded.
The study is based, in part, on what happened in a wake of a February 2011 freeze, which greatly reduced Mexican tomato production.
"We found that if Mexican imports are excluded from the U.S. market, retail prices during the December-May timeframe can be expected to rise by 97.9% for hothouse round, 96.9% for hothouse vine, 61.3% for grape tomatoes, 217.2% for roma, and 52.1% for field tomatoes," Tim Richards, Morrison Chair professor of Agribusiness at Arizona State University, wrote in the report.
A teleconference about the new research Jan. 24 featured several speakers supporting the current tomato agreement, including Lance Jungmeyer, president of the FPAA; Rick Van Schoick, director of the North American Center for Transborder Studies at Arizona State University; Patrick Kilbride, senior director of the Americas for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce; and Jaime Chamberlain, president of JC-Distributing, Nogales.
"The study is brought forth because we are concerned as U.S. distributors about the ability to continue to be able sell Mexican tomatoes with the tomato trade dispute that is going on between the U.S. and Mexico," Jungmeyer said.
'Wild assumptions'
Reggie Brown, executive vice president of the Maitland-based Florida Tomato Exchange, said he can't imagine a scenario where Mexican tomatoes would be excluded from the U.S.
"If you make wild assumptions, which they do in their study, you get wild results," Brown said. "Nothing in any of these issues would ever prevent Mexican product from entering the country. The issue is only the product entering the country under a free and fair-traded environment."
Scaring the public with scarcity or food price spikes is unfortunate, Brown said.
"FPAA has been fairly consistent in taking extreme positions all the way through this issue, including threatening and intimidating the produce industry with trade wars, internationally decreed sanctions, all other kinds of things," Brown said.
The scenario of Mexican tomatoes disappearing from U.S. grocery shelves is a real possibility, Jungmeyer said, if punitive or prohibitive antidumping measures are applied by the U.S.
Given that outcome, he said consumers could see prices double or more than double September through May.
Noting that the economic model would push prices more than $5 per-pound for some tomato varieties, Jungmeyer said the U.S. diet would suffer at a time when government agencies are urging greater produce consumption.
Jungmeyer told reporters that distributors of Mexican produce are fearful of antidumping duties on Mexican tomatoes.
"We feel (dumping charges) are unfounded. Growers haven't been selling to the U.S. market for years by selling below the cost of production," Jungmeyer said.
Jungmeyer said distributors suspect that if the tomato suspension agreement is terminated, as the Department of Commerce is contemplating, a new round anti-dumping investigations would begin shortly thereafter.
"If this is not renegotiated to the satisfaction of both the Department of Commerce and Mexican growers, it will put the United States and Mexico on a collision course that would have disruptions in trade all around," he said.
Jungmeyer said he was not privy to how close the two sides are to a satisfactory solution or what revised minimum prices levels are being considered.
Kilbride said the U.S. and Mexico can't let the trade dispute get in the way of their important trade relationship.
Chamberlain said the suspension agreement has been used successfully for 16 years and shouldn't be abandoned.
In particular, he said potential preliminary antidumping tariffs following the end of the suspension agreement and put in place during a dumping investigation would have a chilling effect on importers. For example, he said the Department of Commerce could initially create a 40% preliminary duty but 10 months later raise it to 50%. That would create cash flow problems for importers because they would have no way to get the extra margin needed to pay the government, Chamberlain said."It would be impossible to pay," he said.
Talks continue
A Commerce Department spokesman, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Jan. 24 that agency officials are talking with Mexican growers and exporters on the suspension agreement, with talks taking place in Washington, D.C.
Terence Stewart, managing partner in Stewart and Stewart, Washington, D.C., represents domestic growers seeking a changed-circumstance review with the Department of Commerce.
Stewart said there are three proceedings relating to the tomato dispute.
One process, with no set timeline, is the consultation between Mexican producers who are subject to the suspension agreement and the Commerce Department.
Another process is the changed-circumstances review that the Department of Commerce initiated. That process has a 270-day deadline from when it was initiated in August.
"At the moment, we're on a schedule where factual submissions have been completed and briefings start next week and the week after," he said Jan. 23. No date has yet been set for a hearing, he said.
The last part of the process is a sunset review of the suspension agreement, which has seen two postponements by the Department of Commerce, Stewart said.


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Continuing a family passion for learning, longtime La Jolla resident and civic activist Joan E. Bowes established the Joan E. Bowes-James Madison Distinguished Speaker Series through the School of Law to inspire law students and other members of the San Diego community and promote the open exchange of ideas. Bearing the name of James Madison—fourth president of the United States and "Father of the Constitution"—this annual series brings distinguished speakers from the fields of law, diplomacy, government and politics to the University of San Diego.
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A university student has swapped the comfort of his bed for a sleeping bag after pledging to sleep in a tent until he raises £2,000 in sponsorship for a children's charity.
Christopher Roche, of New Barnet, has been living in his tent since May 19 in an attempt to raise money for Save the Children's Syria Appeal.
The 29-year-old has pitched camp everywhere from back gardens to fields across Barnet, as well as in Bath, where he is a post-graduate student developing treatments for drug dependence and addiction.
Speaking to the Times Series he said: "It's been quite trying at times. I've been taking my tent everywhere with me – the train, uni, everywhere.
"For the first couple of weeks it was raining non-stop, which made it difficult to sleep. And now the weather's really hot which means I wake up early and have to dive to open the tent – I can't win."
But Christopher is determined to complete his challenge to help people living in Syria.
He said: "The scale of the suffering and of the need for assistance is enormous, and the aid agencies are stretched thin and desperately need funds.
"Living in a tent for month obviously won't solve the problems in Syria. However, the money raised for this aid appeal will go towards reducing real human suffering, so it's definitely worth it."
Christopher has already raised £1,500 towards his campaign, and having already spent six weeks in a tent he said: "The last £500 could not come quickly enough."
To sponsor Christopher visit: https://mydonate.bt.com/fundraisers/moreintense


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For what it is worth- posted by Pacers0506
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"I just saw on ESPN News that the Pacers are mulling over two deals...one sending Artest and Pollard to Sacramento for Bonzi and Peja,and the other Artest to NY for Crawford and Q Rich.NOTHING IS OFFICIAL but this is just the latest update from Rick Beucher or whatever his name is.There was a third deal where the Pacers would get Jalen Rose in exchange for Artest and Croschere but they passed on it. The Pacers didn't want Rose."
Anyone see this to confirm????


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David N. Snyder wrote:I have noticed this too with the so-called relics of Buddha, Sariputta, Moggallana, etc. There are so many temples with supposedly bone fragments of the Buddha that if they are real, the Buddha must have been about 1,000 feet tall to produce so many remains.
According to one theory the relics can multiply if the person in possession of them is a virtuous Buddhist.


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Movie directed by Vincent Ward. Cinematography by Eduardo Serr. Gallery includes movie stills featuring Robin Williams, Annabella Sciorra, Cuba Gooding Jr., Max von Sydow, Jessica Brooks Grant, Josh Paddock, Rosalind Chao, Lucinda Jenney, Maggie McCarthy and Wilma Bonet. Won an Oscar award for 'Best Effects, Visual Effects' in 1999. Was also nominated for 'Best Art Direction-Set Decoration'.
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Thank you, Cheney, Rummy, Condi, Wolfie and the rest of the hubristic cabal that felt they alone held the solution to the geopolitical puzzle. Thank you, George W. Bush — who couldn't find the Middle East on a map before September of 2001 — for giving them the keys to the car.
The Iraq debacle looms over any discussion about what to do in Syria, since we're still recovering from the burns received from the last time we placed our hand on the hot Middle East stove.
Iraq, according to the neoconservative strategists of the Bush administration, was the key to stability in the region. If we toppled Saddam, a grateful Iraqi people would allow us to establish a model Jeffersonian democracy, creating a thirst for freedom among their neighbors. They in turn would overthrow their dictatorships, establish U.S.-friendly governments, and our source of oil would be secure for generations to come. Win-win.
They made a couple of mistakes. First, there is no such thing as an Iraqi people. "Iraq" is a construct whose borders were imposed by Europeans with little concern for the ethnicity, creed or compatibility of the enclosed peoples.
Second, in a "nation" with no democratic traditions, what the locals prize most isn't freedom, but stability. The former concept is strange and abstract, the latter is very real and concerns daily life in the streets. Saddam Hussein, for all his sins, provided a healthy dose of social order. The daily mayhem in Iraq is taking a back seat to the news about Syria, but there are many Iraqis who believe life was a lot better for them before the Americans came.
It's no surprise that our leaders are reluctant to involve us in Syria. We hate to stand back while a dictator gases his own people, but we've learned the meaning of "mission creep" the hard way. Besides, if we did get rid of Assad, a hostile Islamist faction could well replace him.
The American people would like to be the good guys, but thanks to the misadventures of the past, intervention — even for the most humanitarian of reasons — has become a political third rail.
As British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain said in 1938 during the Czechoslovakia crisis:
How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far-away country between people of whom we know nothing.
For post-Iraq America, that utterance doesn't sound as craven as it once did.


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Time: 12:00 - 13:00
Location: Kitchener Public Library: Forest Heights Branch
Cost: No charge
This popular noon-hour lecture series focuses on current affairs and topics from the world of political and social science, history and the arts. Speakers from the University of Waterloo and Wilfrid Laurier University give informal lectures at the KPL's Forest Heights branch.
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SOUTHFIELD (AP) -- Lawrence Technological University will use a $20 million gift to build a center dedicated to science and mathematics.
The Southfield school says the donor wants to be anonymous. The building will be named for Richard Marburger, who was Lawrence Tech president from 1977 to 1993 and still works on campus. The building will support robotics, software engineering, chemistry and other sciences.
The school's president calls the donation "transformational" in Lawrence Tech's goal of providing cutting-edge education to college students in a variety of sciences.
Lawrence Tech has about 4,500 students.


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Editor's note: Beginning this week at the Microsoft Exchange Conference (MEC), you will have opportunities to have in-depth dialogues with the Exchange team – both in-person and virtually. We kick off this week with a blog post that highlights a need of organizations everywhere and of every size as they look towards ensuring they have control of their data in a secure and manageable fashion. We hope to continue the conversation with you this week at the conference, and in the future via the EHLO and Office Next blogs. Today Harv Bhela, General Manager for Exchange Program Management, joins Office Next to kick off the week.
Taming the Email Data Beast
This is the age of big data. Around the world, people are creating and transmitting data in unprecedented volume. At the same time, organizations have an extraordinary need to manage liability of this information. A survey conducted by Harris Interactive in March of 2012 showed that 68 percent of companies send sensitive data via email.[1] Another survey showed that 63 percent of organizations are extremely or very concerned about their organization losing sensitive data without their organization knowing it.
Enterprises face extraordinary challenges in keeping all this data safe. Staying ahead of ever-more-sophisticated external threats such as viruses, malware, and spam is a daunting task in businesses of all sizes. IT managers also need to comply with industry regulations by preserving data in a way that is both immutable and accessible. They must also deal with the risk that users will unintentionally create data leaks, typically due to a lack of awareness or education. For example, in April of 2012, a physician at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences emailed a document containing the un-redacted personal financial information of 7,000 patients to an outside party.[2] Businesses need tools that can prevent this type of common but potentially disastrous error.
While the responsibilities of IT professionals grow, their relative numbers dwindle. Over the next ten years, while worldwide data is expected to grow exponentially, the number of people employed in IT will increase only fractionally. With the ratio of data to IT professionals growing rapidly, it is becoming increasingly critical to enable workers to manage this email risk without hindering their productivity and experiences, and to automate and streamline the risk management process wherever possible. Microsoft understands and is addressing these challenges. The data protection and archiving features of Exchange are designed to help IT professionals take control of data protection and archiving in a big-data world. These new and improved features include:
- Cloud-based email hygiene with Exchange Online Protection
- Data Loss Prevention (DLP) technology to identify, monitor, and protect sensitive information
- In-place email archiving, hold, and native data governance to preserve email as long as necessary
- Advanced, yet easy-to-use eDiscovery tools to locate information in the organization
- Integration with SharePoint supports safe team collaboration with site mailboxes
Move Email Protection to the Cloud with Exchange Online Protection
Exchange Online Protection is the Microsoft cloud-based email protection service, which works with Exchange on-premises and online. Companies using Exchange Online Protection no longer have to worry about the disparity between data volume and staff available to manage it. They also benefit from email protection that is continuously updated to deal with present and emerging threats. Microsoft security researchers constantly monitor spam, phishing, malware, and network attacks globally and update Exchange Online Protection to protect against them. Exchange Online Protection uses a sophisticated multi-engine malware detection approach to catch viruses and spam messages before they are delivered. Even the most security-conscious companies would find it difficult to maintain the level of security vigilance, innovation, and virtually unlimited scalability Exchange Online Protection provides.
To keep customers' email available 24/7, Exchange Online Protection uses a globally load-balanced network of data centers to provide five nines (99.999 percent) network uptime. Exchange Online Protection can actually increase email reliability by queuing email for up to five days, eliminating bounces if on-premises email servers go down. Exchange Online Protection is also highly scalable: when organizations grow, Exchange Online Protection grows with them, seamlessly.
Moving email hygiene to the cloud also has a number of operational benefits. Microsoft has designed Exchange Online Protection to help customers offload the costly, repetitive, and unproductive aspects of email protection such as purchasing and servicing hardware, applying software updates, and managing network connections. At the same time, it gives customers control over what really matters to their businesses. Organizations can set specific filtering rules and policies through an easy-to-use, web-based administration tool. Exchange Online Protection also delivers comprehensive reporting, auditing, and message trace capabilities.
Use Sensitive Data Safely with Data Loss Prevention Technology
Many organizations handle personally identifiable information (PII), financial data, regulatory or other sensitive information in the daily course of business. They need ways to ensure data is sent and used appropriately, keeping it safe without affecting worker productivity. Data Loss Prevention (DLP) technology in Exchange uses deep content analysis to identify, monitor, and protect sensitive information.
Exchange administrators can easily create DLP policies in the Exchange Administration Console. DLP policies can include rules, actions, and exceptions, and uses the full power of Exchange transport rules. Upon identifying sensitive information, DLP can automatically take action such as applying Information Rights Management protection, appending a disclaimer, generating an audit log, sending the message for moderation, or preventing a message from being sent. DLP works with a new feature called Outlook Policy Tips that informs users of a potential policy violation before it occurs. Policy Tips help educate users about what sensitive data has been found in the email and can educate them about related company policies. This ongoing education helps users manage data appropriately and avoid sending sensitive data to unauthorized users. The DLP feature is a sophisticated system built into Exchange for helping users work with sensitive data safely and efficiently.
Manage Data with Large Mailboxes, In-Place Archiving, and Retention Policies
With growing volumes of email data, organizations used to face a difficult choice: keep email archives on slow, expensive, third-party archiving systems, or limit the amount of historical email available to users. With Exchange, organizations can provide users with large mailboxes and keep archived and current email data in one system through in-place archiving technology. This provides a number of advantages. Users can access archived and current email quickly and easily, and they no longer have to waste time managing their inboxes to stay within quotas. They also do not need to store messages in .PST files outside the control of Exchange administrators and backup policies.
From the perspective of IT, administrators have the flexibility to balance storage performance and cost to suit business needs. They can manage and search archived and current email through one interface and no longer need to deploy and maintain separate archiving infrastructure. This also means they have a single place to manage compliance and retention.
With large mailboxes, organizations need efficient, automated ways to manage message retention and expiration. Exchange provides easy-to-manage policies for controlling how long messages are kept so users do not have to worry about it. Retention policies can apply to messages, folders, or even entire mailboxes. Organizations can achieve all these benefits while choosing to keep Exchange archives on-premises or in the cloud using Exchange Online Archiving.
Making Data Tamper-Proof with Hold and Searching It Efficiently
Many organizations need the ability to capture and store email in a tamper-proof (or "immutable") archive. HR policies or litigation can create the need to make content immutable. At one time, virtually the only way to enforce immutability was through journaling—basically, forwarding email to a special, separate archive deployed and managed independently from Exchange. Today, Exchange makes immutability simple with in-place hold. With this technology, an IT administrator can easily place a group, a user, a mailbox, or even individual items on hold from the web-based eDiscovery Center. Users on hold experience no change to their workflow, and there are no client plug-ins to manage.
The ability to search current, archived, and held email is critical in big data environments. Because it can keep archived and active email data in one system, Exchange makes such searches easy. In tandem with SharePoint, Exchange allows organizations to search email, instant messages, calendars, and contacts, as well as SharePoint documents, sites, file shares, blogs, wikis, and more, all from the eDiscovery Center. For greater efficiency, IT administrators can use role-based access control to delegate search, hold, retention policy management, and auditing to HR or legal personnel without providing full administrative privileges. Finally, auditing capabilities built into Exchange can record configuration changes and compliance activities. Audit logs can be used to prove due diligence and, if necessary, pinpoint tampering by an administrator.
Collaborate while Maintaining Compliance using Site Mailboxes
With site mailboxes, Exchange works with SharePoint to give users more ways to collaborate while keeping data safe. In a site mailbox, members of a SharePoint site can access project emails and documents in a central location place—right from Outlook on the desktop or the SharePoint site itself. Users view site mailbox emails just as they would any other Exchange message, while SharePoint enables versioning and coauthoring of documents. Site mailboxes can be searched using the Exchange eDiscovery Center, and the email and documents stored in site mailboxes can be put on legal hold. Additionally, site mailboxes adhere to the lifecycle policies applied to the SharePoint site with which they are associated, enabling automated retention and archiving of the entire site mailbox.
Turn Email Data from Challenge to Asset
Exchange helps organizations deal efficiently and effectively with the explosion in email data. A wide range of new technologies built into Exchange can reduce costs, improve security, and keep workers productive. Businesses can move email hygiene to the cloud with Exchange Online Protection, stopping viruses and spam before they get anywhere close to the company's network. New DLP technology enables organizations to work with sensitive information safely and helps everyone in an organization better manage sensitive data. In-place archiving and large mailboxes offer better access to the information and organizational knowledge contained in past email while eliminating the need for third-party archives. Built-in eDiscovery functionality makes it easy to find needed information across held, archived, and current email. In tandem with SharePoint, organizations can search email, instant messages, calendars, and contacts, as well as SharePoint documents, sites, file shares, blogs, wikis, and more, all from the eDiscovery Center. Site mailboxes allow users to naturally work together – while compliance policies are applied behind the scenes. By integrating all of these data protection features into one system, Exchange greatly simplifies IT infrastructure and helps reduce costs. With Exchange, organizations can do more than tame vast and growing amounts of email data—they can turn it to their advantage.
– Harv Bhela
General Manager, Exchange Program Management
[1] http://www.techjournal.org/2012/03/sharing-sensitive-information-via-email-ftp-poses-enterprise-challenges/
[2] http://www.govhealthit.com/news/top-10-data-breaches-include-public-health-depts?page=0,1


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'"I went to the Sabres' development camp for 10 days this summer and went back for training camp before the start of their season, and I learned an awful lot. When I left, they just told me to keep my cool and keep working hard. There's a lot of stuff I have to work on to get to the next level, but it's something I want to do. It's one of my goals."'
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