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I'm wondering what experiences you've had with that first-day arrival in Europe from the US.
I keep hearing that you should try to push through the whole first day so that you acclimate to the time change faster, but I've only been successful at that once, when I was much younger. As an adult, if I arrive in the morning (European time), I can last until late afternoon or early evening before crashing. It does mess up the first day or so -- no fun being wide awake at 2am when the rest of the continent is asleep! -- but then it all seems to straighten itself out.
What are your thoughts? We're planning a 9am arrival in Manchester, England, and I'm thinking we might be better off to check a few things off our list (SIM cards, groceries for the next day's breakfast, etc.), then check into the hostel and nap for a couple/few hours. After that I'm thinking we can head back out in the evening and perhaps end the day later than usual so that we sleep soundly and are ready for the first full day.
One of my frequent-traveling friends suggested taking 5-Hour Energy as soon as we land to help soldier through the arrival day, but with a 9am arrival I don't know how that would work...have you tried this strategy? Would it be better to take it, say, around local lunchtime and hope to last another few hours?
Thanks in advance -- just trying to get the trip off to a good start. I appreciate hearing about your experiences.
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Arrival day: push through or nap?
I'm wondering what experiences you've had with that first-day arrival in Europe from the US.
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We fly from the US west coast twice a year for our 1 month European vacation. We usually depart SFO around 2 to 4 pm. We have a big lunch with wine. We get on the plane & stay awake for a couple of hours. Then I take 2 1/2 ambien, put in ear plugs and wear an eye mask, & try to get several hours of sleep - which I usually do. We have a strong cup of coffee on the plane close to arrival time. When we get there, we "push on", but never a drive more than 2 1/2 hrs if we drive at all. We have a nice dinner at 8pm, I take 2 ambien, then off to bed. We've done this routine since 1999. I have ambien for the next 4-5 days.
Stu Dudley
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We usually go west.
Last we came back we stayed awake until about 9 pm. So that we would wake at a normal time.
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I'm a napper. We generally land, get to hotel, unpack, have celebratory drinks & maybe a snack, then sleep. We get up, shower and go to dinner. We might take a sleeping pill around 1am if we need it. After this we are reset & good to go for the rest of the trip.
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Everyone's different, but personally I'm a mess for several days if I nap the day of arrival. I just stay outdoors as much as possible, move slowly, stop a few times for a coffee or tea, have a light dinner, and get to bed before 10 pm. Then I'm good to go starting the next morning.
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I'll never forget my trip to Paris with my sister. We live in the Inland Northwest, so we have to travel from Spokane across the United States and then across the Atlantic. Also, the time difference between Spokane and European cities is 9 hours or more.
It was my sister's first trip to Europe, and she was so excited that she insisted we stay awake in Paris and do some sight-seeing. When we were on the bateau boat touring the Seine, she was wide awake and taking everything in.
I did my best, but I kept dozing off during the whole trip. It was not an enjoyable excursion for me.
Nowadays I have also noticed that when I stay awake after arriving, I don't feel well the first day. In addition, my internal clock is totally discombobulated, and I find myself needing to take naps for the next few days. My body knows that it is 2:00 a.m., no matter that the clock says it's 5:00 p.m.
I've just given up struggling. I take naps for the first couple of days. I think part of the trouble is my age. I don't remember having jet lag when I was younger.
P.S. It's even worse when I return home. I usually return to local time quickly, but it takes about a week for my body to recover.
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If you're getting the tram from the airport, as in your previous post, then you'll be at your hostel by around 11:15am.(Delays allowing) Maybe you should stretch your legs once you've checked in and walk up to the Sainsbury's store at the bottom of Regent Road that I mentioned in your other post. That should take you around 10 minutes or so and you should be back not long after noon.
I think I'd catch some sleep for a couple of hours in the afternoon just to keep me going and then follow your plan to go to bed a little later. That always works for me with overnight flights. Let me know if you need any other info for the time you're in Manchester.
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We travel from the east coast of the U.S. so we generally arrive between 7:00 a.m. and noon. Our goal, once we can get into a hotel room, is to take a nice shower and nap for a short time - no more than 90 minutes. This helps us get through the balance of the first day and we are generally good to go for the balance of the trip. I'm thinking limmy's idea of a pre-nap drink should be added to our routine. Thanks.
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I think you should find a way to stay out in the sun. The worst jet lag I had came from being indoors on arrival and staying there. Gets the body to see the sun and it starts to catch up.
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I never nap. I get what sleep I can and stay up until 830 or 9 the first evening. I have a terrible time getting up from naps and it's just easier to stay awake. I choose something low key but interesting for the first day so that I won't be tempted to doze off. Personally, I get a second wind when I'm so tired that I'm just not tired anymore.
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Sorry, I should have said "I get what sleep I can on overnight flights".
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I, too, sleep some on the plane, stay awake & walk after arrival, then go to sleep as close to local bedtime as I can manage. If I "napped", I'd stay asleep and wake in the wee hours and it would take me days longer to adjust.
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Agree with StCirq. Everyone is different. However, her findings are my findings.
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Napping on the first day can delay your transition to the new time zone. It is much better to push through to an early dinner - perhaps 7pm instead of 9 - and try to spend time out in the sunshine (if you have any) to make the transition faster.
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I stay up until normal bedtime (or as close to it as possible). That helps my body adjust quicker to the new time zone. I don't get much sleep on overnight flights, so exhaustion helps me go to sleep, and stay asleep, until the next morning.
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I've traveled to Europe all my life, parents were both airline employees, so I spent a lot of my life traveling on trips with them. The number one rule my parents and all their airline friends had: as soon as you arrive in Europe take a 2-4 hour nap- NO MORE. If you try and push though the day, make sure you sleep on the plane!
We take a 4 hour nap when we arrive in the morning, then spend the rest of the day enjoying the culture, have a great dinner then go to bed at a somewhat reasonable hour. Wake up ready to seize the day!
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"...as you arrive in Europe take a 2-4 hour nap..."
With a morning arrival and check-in often delayed until afternoon, how does one nap "in the morning"?
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I envy people who can sleep on the plane. Being able to do that would certainly help the transition to a different time zone.
I recall one trip where I was determined to sleep on the flight. I took Melatonin and (maybe Bendryl), used earplugs, an eyemask, and a u-shaped pillow for my neck. I think I slept for about an hour. Maybe two, but not enough to help me stay awake and alert when I landed in Frankfurt.
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I don't sleep well on the plane but find, if I nap, I just prolong my adjustment. I try to stay outside as much as possible the first day as I think the angle of the sun helps reset my "internal clock", have an early dinner, crash around 9-10 PM and I'm fine for the rest of the trip.
Wish it was that easy on return!
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"I think you should find a way to stay out in the sun."
The OP's travelling to Manchester. So finding sun will be the first challenge.
But DO realise everyone's different. I recently slept dreadfully on an eastbound overnight from Cuba only a few days before the winter solstice. So by the time I'd changed planes at CDG and driven home, it was dark already.
But I went to a local board meeting that night, and my brain, tolerance and insight into the issues discussed worked properly. Back home, a quick plate of carbonara and I slept like a baby till 0600 GMT. Nary a lag.
Maybe I'm getting old. Maybe Air Frog was just being mean with the booze. But I've noticed that lags get rarer and rarer the older I get.
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If I can sleep on the plane I should be able to stay up until local bedtime (say 10:00 to 11:00), but if I fly economy I only get a few cat naps and there is no way I can last that long. I eat a light lunch and go to sleep for two to three hours. When I get up I shower, eat dinner with everyone else and go to bed at 11:00 or so. Then I'm synced by the morning. (Note, I'm talking about flying US east coast to Europe.)
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"I've noticed that lags get rarer and rarer the older I get."
It's been said, everything is relative. Maybe brain fog is the new normal, so less lag, comparatively speaking.
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My strategy for a transatlantic flight is to stay up all day and all night before I get on the plane - no stimulants, just excitement and leaving the packing for the last minute, which keeps me occupied.
I can never sleep on a 9+ hour flight until maybe the last hour before landing. But when I do land, I have all my wits about me and am able to stay awake until the "new normal" bedtime.
Personally, I think you might be wasting money on energy boosters or sleep aids. Jet lag is not the end of the world, unless you have a severely limited amount of time to get a whole lot of things done.
If you find that you are really exhausted when you arrive, have a light snack and go to bed. Set an alarm for whenever you want to get up. You might think that it's a waste of time to be sleeping, but if you try to "power through" the day/night, you might make yourself and everyone around you miserable. It's important to remember that this is also the time when most visitors make costly errors with money or end up getting pickpocketed.
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Stay awake until 9pm or 10pm local time or suffer the residual effects of jet lag for several days. Your choice.
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My usual routine after a fitful (always) sleep on a transatlantic flight is to drop my bags at the hotel, and inquire hopefully about early check-in (usually denied, these days). I get some lunch, check in, and take a nap. Nothing feels quite as good as those clean sheets -- except maybe the shower afterwards. Then it's up for some late afternoon walks until drinks and dinner. Works for me.
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I could take thirty ambient and I couldn't sleep more than 3 hours on the plane. I nap , stay up until 10 local time , am tired the next day but serviceable. I nap the second day too and by the third day I am acclimated.
But everyone is different.
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Neither of us sleep well on planes, but we do try to doze a little if we can.
Returning home from the US we stay awake. Inevitably I have to do some food shopping and stuff like that, but take it easy. We go to bed a little earlier than normal, and aim to get up early the next morning. We used to be fine then, but as we get older it takes a little longer, but after two nights we are fine.
The one time we did nap it took nearly a week to get over the jetlag.
Everyone is different and you just have to deal with it however you can.
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'Stay awake until 9pm or 10pm local time or suffer the residual effects of jet lag for several days. Your choice."
What part of "everyone is different" do you not get? I nap, I am synced by the morning.
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I fly from Seattle and I can't sleep on planes.
I always nap in the afternoon for a couple hours the first few days. If I don't I'm a zombie for the entire trip. If I take a couple days to get onto local time, then it works out a lot better for me.
Napping FOR ME is what gets me over jet lag and into the local time adjustment the quickest.
Wine also helps
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Count me in the nap camp.
I fly from the US west coast, so a morning arrival in Europe means I'm arriving in my body clock's middle of the night. I also can't sleep sitting up in economy, no matter what I do. There's no way I can stay up another 12+ hours without sleep, so I rest, usually not much more than an hour or two. Without it, I get physically ill. I nap, then go out, then try to sleep at normal bed time, usually waking about 4 am on the first full day.
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Every flight is the same for me. Whether it's duration is to be 45 minutes or 10 hours, I get drowsy shortly after take-off, my eyelids weigh about 12 pounds, and I fall dead asleep ... for all of 20 minutes. I am then wide awake for the rest of the flight.
I've tried boozing, not boozing, eating, not eating, listening to music, watching movies, reading, finding someone boring to talk to, taking sleep medication, doing nothing, counting sheep, etc., etc., etc. Nothing works. After my little nap, I'm done.
The one good thing is that, upon arrival in Europe, I am so wired that I can usually go all day without a drowsiness problem. I'll eat a big dinner with wine, then sleep like the dead that night and wake up raring to go the next day.
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If we feel like napping we nap.
If we feel like staying awake we stay awake.
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I don't sleep at all on a plane. Can't fall asleep in a sitting position no matter how tired I am. But I usually hit the ground running and try to walk and stay outside all day. No naps for me. They say the sun helps jet lag and I think that is true.
I do hit the bed at about 9 pm or maybe a little earlier and then get a good nights sleep.
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This is all fascinating -- thanks for sharing your experiences.
There are four of us and it's likely that each of us will react differently. Two of us can nap just about anywhere, even standing up as long as we have a wall to lean against. One doesn't need much sleep and is up at dawn (or predawn) 365 days a year. The other is a near-chronic insomniac who will probably be most in need of naps or any sleep he can get.
Thanks again for your tips and travel history. Much appreciated!
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I never sleep on the plane so do take a short nap after I arrive, and that works for me. However, my flight for upcoming June trip leaves PIT very late, arriving at CDG around 11:30 am.--I was very surprised to see this, and here in Pgh., this is the only non-stop option. Not sure how this will play out and am wondering why all of a sudden Delta changed the flight times. The return is late in the day, too.
Always so envious of everyone else in cabin fast asleep while I am reading; a very lonely feeling, despite being with how many people stuffed in like sardines!
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There's no one-size-fits-all answer. Some people are more affected by jet lag than others, some are more Type A than others and will barrel through no matter how they feel. I'm in the napping camp because I just feel better that way, and if it takes me 2-3 days to acclimate to a new time zone, so be it. I just sleep late and spend my afternoons out in the light as much as possible. Once or twice I thought I had gotten away without problems when I slept well the first night, but the second day it hit.
My husband feels tired and can't sleep at night for the full nine days it takes for his body to get used to being nine time zones away from home. He falls asleep about 4 AM and sleeps till 11. That's one reason we never go to Europe for less than 3 weeks, it just isn't worth the physical and psychological strain.
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<a near-chronic insomniac>
That's me. And I believe those folks suffer the worst from jet lag and the time change.
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I am traveling from the east coast so much better than the west coasters. I take 5mg of ambien and sleep on the plane. I also set my watch to the correct time of my arrival destination. I love traveling in the spring and summer and early fall when the day light hours are still long. That helps me to stay awake. I leave my blinds open and wake with the light of day. I only have trouble with altitude if we land and go right to the mountains. I like to gradually work into that now. Give me a day in Munich first.
I hit the ground running and don't go to bed till normal time. I am not wasting any vacation time sleeping or taking a nap but I am an east coaster so less of a time difference.
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As flying gets more and more cramped, I find I harder to sleep on a plane, though I do take a pillow, and,a really comfortable eye shade, and ear plugs.
on arrival at my hotel I generally find it helpful to get a good cup of coffee or tea and something to eat and to walk around a bit. I keep to a light sightseeing schedule that first arrival day, and just get my bearings if i am somewhere new.
there have been times I just need to lie down for an hour or less, and just stretch my back out flat on the mattress, and there is nothing wrong with a short nap if that is what my body needs. I do try to stay up until at least 9pm, and then a relaxing hot shower and off to bed within the hour.
i may get up in the middle of the night the first night but after that i find i am active enough to straighten it out
i am a proponent of water on the plane and no alcohol which is dehydrating. have your drinks after you land
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I can't ever sleep on planes. I've never tried anything but a couple glasses of wine to help me, which is no help at all!
When my husband and I went to Ireland in our mid-thirties we checked in to our hotel, went to lunch, wandered a little, and then took a nap. Worst mistake ever! We set the alarm for 2 hours later and felt HORRIBLE. It was if we were sleepwalking the rest of that evening, and then ended up wide awake at 2 am local time. It took days for us to adjust.
When we went to Greece in our late thirties, we had a layover in Athens before a flight to Santorini. I was 6 months pregnant at the time, and really did not sleep on the plane because I had to walk the aisles every hour to prevent DVT. During our layover, we walked the streets of Athens at a leisurely pace, got some lunch and headed back to the airport, where I nodded off for maybe 15 minutes. We caught a second wind once we arrived in Santorini at 8 pm that night, had a quick dinner, and slept soundly until the next morning. The next day we were on Greece time.
As painful as it was to stay awake, I am now a believer in pressing through. The second wind does come, and that night was the best, deepest sleep I've ever experienced!
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I try to barrel through, but sometimes that is very hard - especially if you land early.
If I do have to nap (and often I do) I set the alarm and force myself to wake up after an hour or so.
There is no rhyme or reason. Sometimes I get whacked hard with the jet lag and sometimes it is just sleeping in to 10am for a couple of days. Coming home is way worse though.
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colduphere said:
"If we feel like napping we nap.
If we feel like staying awake we stay awake."
That's only three syllables more than a haiku. Let me try:
To nap can be good.
To stay awake can be good.
colduphere is smart.
colduphere is my favorite travel forum poster.
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Going to Europe from the western US, we always push through. Sometimes I sleep a little on the flight. I never can sleep if leaving from the east coast as the flight is shorter and by the time we have dinner there isn't enough time left to really get relaxed to try to sleep. We are both fine the next day.
I like Cold's Haiku too.
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Flying west to east (from Oregon to Paris), we never pushed through the first day -- always took a nap. We don't sleep well on planes, period, even in business class. It never screwed up our timing. A three-hour mid-afternoon nap left us refreshed and ready for a pre-dinner stroll. We'd then go to bed around 11 pm and sleep like logs til the following morning.
That's still our pattern. For our trip to Singapore, our flight gets in very early in the morning (around 6 am on a Sunday). We've pre-booked a room at the Changi Crowne Plaza so that we can check in as soon as we arrive (we're going to pay for Saturday night with a late checkout Sunday). We plan to have breakfast, then shower, take a leisurely morning swim, nap for a few hours, check out early afternoon, and catch a cab to our hotel in the city.
We love an arrival day snooze. Esp if it's raining.
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We live on the West Coast and we always "push through". You need to get in the sunlight. The hard part is coming home. It usually takes me a few days.
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When we return home from the US, we usually land in Rome, Munich, or Milan, but then we have another trip, either by plane or train, followed by a drive, to get to our home. We're usually not home until mid-afternoon. We take a nap on the train or plane, and if we arrive home before lunch, we take our usual Italian postprandial nap. However, I never allow myself to sleep more than an hour. If I sleep long enough to fall into a really deep sleep, I feel very groggy and out of sorts when I wake up.
In the eastern direction, it doesn't have much to do with your internal clock, because it's earlier where you came from that it is where you've landed. It's more exhaustion from the trip than jet lag.
What I do notice, and this is probably jet lag, is that for the next few days I have a tendency to wake up at 4 AM and have a bit of trouble falling asleep again. Unlike Flanner, any tendency I have to jet lag has got worse as I get older. I used to travel often from New Jersey to China, 11 (or 13) hours difference, and never had the least sign of jet lag in either direction. I wonder if it's because I keep more regular hours than I did when I was young. I used to say, "I don't even have an internal clock." I sometimes went to bed early, and sometimes stayed up all night.
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FMT you've inspired the writing of my next trip report re cycling up Alpe d'Huez (summer 2016 or much later):
Started up the hill
Died before Fausto Coppi
Flew home and sold bike
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fmt and cold--impressive! Maybe a new thread/challenge---My TR as Haiku! I will have to return to that idea.
For now--to OP--what Cold said! We used to NEVER nap, then DH began to need to, on trip last fall to Spain we both napped (after very early arrival, dropping of luggage, 3 or so hour walk including lunch)--he more than I. With us we figure it's age changing our stamina. I'd say in general LONG naps would be inadvisable, and as much time in whatever the outside light is available (even if it's raining) would be a good thing.
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>>There are four of us and it's likely that each of us will react differently.<<
When you travel with more than one person, the differing reactions to jet lag can affect trip plans if you make any. I'm an early riser, and my sister is not. No nap works for me. She requires a nap, otherwise she's miserable. I've learned to not involve my sister on any early morning activity, especially on the morning after the day of arrival.
My sister and I travel from East Coast U.S. airports. On arrival day, I'm usually in bed by 10pm. Sometimes, my body can't make it past 9pm. I set my alarm for 6am the following morning, and I go out for a quick run. When my sister naps, she usually doesn't get to sleep until midnight, and there's no point trying to wake her before 9am. We never eat breakfast together. Typically, she's not ready to hit the streets until 11am, so I often make plans to meet her somewhere.
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Thanks. A few of you mentioned jet lag on the return trip...weirdly enough, that's never bothered us. We're near the East Coast, though, which may be why. Daytime return flight means we're usually home by supper time and then it's just another few hours 'til bedtime anyhow.
For the outbound trip, I'm thinking that we'll try the suggestions offered here and keep the first couple days light to accommodate everyone's transition.
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When I lived on the East Coast of the USA, traveling home was an absolute bear for me. No matter what I did, my head was on my desk by 3 pm every afternoon, and then I was up all night. For several days. Probably because I was really, really bummed to have to be back in what was "home" then, but it was not fun!
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StCirq, I can relate (at least to the mental aspect of jet lag). There's only one time I've been ready to come home from my travels, and that was only because I was getting married soon. All the other times, I was devastated to be leaving Europe behind. It's a shame that EU citizenship is so complicated and expensive.
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Cold - See you at the top of the hill.
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I sleep as soon as I can on arrival. I can't sleep on planes, it's more of a cat nap. Only once did I not have to nap on arrival and went to bed at a reasonable time and was ok. I find if I can go until I just have to sleep, I will still get up at a decent hour at my destination for dinner. My flights usually get in early am hrs and only once in the early evening which really messed with my plans. For me the arrival day is a wash so I don't make big plans. It's also sometimes hard when you can't get your room yet and ready to fall asleep anywhere.
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I tried a great tip I received prior to my last European trip. Before you fly out, set your watch to the current time in your destination, then do whatever it is you would normally be doing at that time. So, if you are leaving the west coast on an 8 AM flight and the time in your destination is 5 PM, get on the plane, eat, have a cocktail and take sleeping pill to fall asleep by what would be 9 PM in your destination (or whatever time you typically go to sleep.) That way you are already getting acclimated to your destination time zone! It actually worked for me!
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Srianda, I guess that works for some people, but I was always acutely aware that I was fooling myself and knew better, so...did not work, at all. I always did set my watch to the correct time, but since I hardly ever look at my watch, that was close to meaningless.
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Take a short nap after morning arrival - get up and be out for lunch by noon, and you're ready for sleep by 9 or 10 pm. The second day starts off at your usual time. Always worked for me and I've been flying those overnight Atlantic crossings for 25 years now.
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If I am tired, I can't force myself to stay awake. If I am not tired, I can't force myself to go to sleep. If I am on vacation, I enjoy my time and nap when it seems like that would feel good and stay up late when that feels like fun.
Most often, I do exactly what the original poster was considering: go out for a short time, because it is exciting to be in the new place, then nap for a while. That way, for the first couple of days I am awake later than usual in the evenings and can enjoy late dinners and evening activities.
I find it encouraging to see how these threads have evolved over the years. The "you have to stay awake or you'll be sorry" camp used to have the most adherents. Now, perhaps with aging, the "everyone is different" camp is increasing. There are just a couple of holdouts who think their way is the only way despite the overwhelming number of people who are happy with a different routine.
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Nikki, so true. These threads used to be overwhelmingly "stay awake" and that has never worked for me.
Sure, I'd love to stay awake on arrival, but when my body says sleep, I have to sleep. No choice. Even though I'm excited to be in one of my favorite places in France, when I'm tired I fall sound asleep.
So I sleep, but I'm still in France and enjoying myself!
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Good news - With aging the "everyone is different" camp is increasing.
Bad news - With aging the "slow down, less is more" camp is increasing.
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An interesting phenomenon is that some of the same people are in the "stay awake or be sorry" camp as well as the "slow down, less is more" camp, which appear to the untrained eye to be incompatible.
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Nikki, stay awake, but take it easy? I don't have a choice, because after every overnight flight I have a long drive home around the M25. Staying awake is essential!
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I thought that Red Bull was invented to keep people going.
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I never sleep on the plane, I am afraid I will miss my stop.
The day we land, we just go until we drop.
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My body must be very smart. I can't trick it with changing my watch to the new time. I just pay attention and do what feels right, resting when my body calls for it. Pushing thru (been there tried that) only makes me miserable.
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Arriving early in the morning sometimes means the choice as to whether to nap or not is moot - many hotels don't have a room ready until afternoon.
I remember a trip to Madrid about eight years ago - I flew solo from San Francisco to Amsterdam to Madrid, arriving at 7 a.m. Little decent sleep on the planes, and when I arrived at my hotel near Plaza Mayor, I was welcomed to leave my bags, but there was no available room for me until mid-afternoon.
I decided to walk around the city - was doing pretty well until about one o'clock when I was exhausted and stopped to rest at a park near the Palace. Sat down on a bench under some trees, where there were quite a few office workers apparently enjoying their lunch breaks.
Much to my horror, try as I might, I could NOT keep myself from drifting into sleep. That awful stupor where you jerk yourself back to consciousness just as you are about to fall over. I was afraid that I would slip off my perch and be arrested for public drunkenness!
I forced myself up and walked (stumbled) about a mile back to my hotel, where I was able to get into my room and pass out for a few hours.
Oh, the joys of travel!
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I think this is one thing you just have to discover for yourself which works best. I am in the camp of do not nap the first day upon arrival or it will ruin your trip for days (and no, I cannot hardly sleep on the plane, either). If I nap, I cannot sleep well that night and then I'm messed up for days. I feel worse if I nap for 1-2 hours, actually. I used to do that as I was so tired, but then tried to force myself to stay awake one time (which I can do, especially if you are walking around and outside) once, and I adapted within one day to the time change, so that's all I do now. Previously, I took maybe 4-5 days to adapt if I napped upon arrival.
I never nap at home, either, I might add, as it also makes me feel terrible and then I can't sleep at night (unless I'm sick).
I don't do anything super important the first day, though, but walk around, maybe a little shopping, get tickets or info, etc. Might do a museum if small and free or something like that, or something outdoors like a monument or park.
But the OP has already experienced this and said it works for her to take a nap (that it all sorts itself out within one day), so if so, I'd go with that. I usually arrive at the hotel around 10-11 am, I guess, if in Western Europe t (later if going to central Europe) and can usually check in to my hotel about 75 percent of the time, it seems to me.
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Everybody's different.
I know it is recommended to push through, but we always are exhausted by about 3 pm, so we check into our hotel, unpack, and then nap for about an hour. Then we shower and change clothes, take a little walk, and then head out to a relatively early (for Europe) dinner. This works fairly well for us.
I have never tried Ambien...my major flying issue is back pain, so I take a Vicodin (and maybe another half-tab six hours into the flight. It does not make me drowsy as it does for some folks -- I wish it did, because I basically get only a few hours of off/on sleep...unless I am lucky enough to snag a middle-four or three on the A300's that fly from PHL. (That doesn't happen very often, sadly.)
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Our routine:
No napping after arrival
Push forward
Early dinner and early to bed
Sleep in first morning if needed
Use No Jet Lag..can find online
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Maybe yet another reason to travel solo - sleep when I want, as long as I want. Turn on the lights when I wake from my nap at 2am, make myself a cup of soup with my heating coil and go back to sleep. Not that I needed another reason.
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I prefer to analyze it by taking the trip out of the equation.
Your sleep patterns and tendencies at home won't change much on the road. I personally cannot take a nap during the day and even remotely hope to go to be at the normal time. For me, a one or two hour nap doubles when it comes time to try to go to sleep. That means I've delayed the waking time for the next day, or I'm fighting sleep that day.
If napping at home doesn't affect your ability to sleep at regular bedtime while at home, then by all means take the nap. If you have difficulty sleeping the night after a nap during the day, then by all means, don't nap.
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But how can you take "the trip out of the equation"?
At home I sure wouldn't just happen to find myself staying awake for 24+ hours straight & in a time zone 9 hours different than I am used to.
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I agree that everyone is a snowflake on this issue, it depends upon each person how they will react.
In order to better analyze how this effects each individual, it seems to me that how each individual reacts to sleep pattern disruptions will give us a better prediction of what will happen to that person instead of how everyone BUT the individual reacts.
I think that each person has a similar sleep "habit" whether they are in Poughkeepsie or Prague, so that "habit" is a better predictor of what you will see when you try changing it.
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I fall asleep as soon as the wheels lose contact with the ground.
Next month I'm going to China and I still don't know what to do : since I stay about 3 days there, I guess I'll try to stick as much as I can to my internal clock.
The problem comes with the kids : they sleep when they are tired and wake up when they feel like it. And it rarely corresponds to my own timing. And I don't remember a time I travelled without a small kid. Shouldn't have done so many I guess - my fault. My wife's ? Our fault !
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The sequence "unload, have festive drinks & perhaps a nosh, then forty winks" sounded exciting. Alas, "nosh" doesn't mean what I was hoping.
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Isn't a napery a tissue or napkin or something like that?
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I don't really suffer from jet lag, so maybe I'm not the best person to give advice. I traveled often from the east coast of the US to China, which is 11 (or 13) hours different, depending on which direction you go. I always counted it as 13 hours, because then I didn't have to think about the International Date Line. Once I got to China, I always had an official committee welcoming me at the airport, and they always set a busy schedule for me the first day. It was never a problem.
I've often thought that one way to help with jet lag would be to try to get on the new time a week or so before leaving. When going east, this would mean going to bed an hour or two earlier and getting up an hour or two earlier. Then, when you arrive, try to go to bed an hour or two later than you usually do, and wake up an hour or two later. (After all, you're on holiday!)
Before you fly out, set your watch to the current time in your destination, then do whatever it is you would normally be doing at that time. So, if you are leaving the west coast on an 8 AM flight and the time in your destination is 5 PM, get on the plane, eat, have a cocktail and take sleeping pill to fall asleep by what would be 9 PM in your destination
This wouldn't work at all for flights from the east coast of the US. which usually leave later, when it's already bedtime or later in Europe. Then by the time the food service is over and everything settles down, you have about four hours to sleep before they wake you up again.
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I agree, bvlenci, but practically speaking, that would never have worked for me. It was always far easier just to deal with one single day of "soldiering on" than an entire week of changing my schedule.
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I can't sleep on the plane, it's the only time I get restless legs.
If I'm so tired I'm nauseous, then I nap for about 20 - 30 minutes and am good to go.
Last year we missed our connection and had a four hour wait. Perfect for a bite of lunch and short stretch out in the lounge.
One year we couldn't check in early, so found a nice bench and took turns resting our eyes.
For us, that's usually sufficient, early to bed and on schedule the next day.
Now coming home, that's the real problem, it takes about a week to really feel back on track.
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Sleep on the plane with a benadryl or something stronger, then upon arrival push on, with liberal amounts of coffee. StuDudley mentioned that you shouldn't drive/travel more than 2.5 hours, and I agree. Go to bed at 830 local and the next day you should be fine. It would be a shame to waste a day.
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I don't sleep much on the plane either (NYC to Europe), actually I get nauseous if I do. Once we arrive at our hotel and drop our bags, we'll walk around the area to get acclimated, have a nice lunch with one glass of wine, take a shower, maybe take another small walk, have a light snack in the room and get to sleep by 8 or 8:30. I have ear plugs and an ambien nearby just in case. We'll sleep for about 10 hours and feel great the next day with no jet lag.
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Enjoying this thread, especially the haiku. Mr. Wonderful (my dear husband) is the king of the cat naps and is in fact napping right now. He can snooze for 20 minutes and wake up refreshed and it's just so maddening to me! If I nap it needs to be a good solid hour but I may or may not wake up refreshed.
Twenty years ago on our first trip to Paris together we checked into our hotel and the plan was to shower and head out for the rest of the afternoon. I fell asleep with my hair wrapped in a towel and it took me a few days to recover. For the next two mornings I was completely wide awake at 3am and Mr. Wonderful was sound asleep. I took the pillows to sit on the immaculate bathroom floor and read for 2 hours until I finally had to wake him up and get going. We ate breakfast in the dark on the Champs Elysees and it turned out to be a favorite memory enjoying the sunrise.
We are traveling from the US west coast to the UK soon and will land at Heathrow shortly after noon. We have booked a car service to take us to Bath with a stop at Stonehenge. We thought it would be a good idea to have something to break up the drive and get us out and walking around a bit. Perhaps there will be haiku inspiration.
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King of catnapping.
Going to visit Stonehenge.
Lands at Heathrow soon.
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I would nosh with colduphere, if that means what I think.
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Well done FrenchMystiqueTours.
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We fly from Seattle, so it is a long flight for us. I am in the camp of no naps, but stay outside and keep moving. Time changes do not affect me too much though. DH on the other hand is absolutely horrible with time changes! On our trip a couple of months ago, he did manage to keep going on the day of arrival until about 5pm. He said he wanted to go to the room and put his feet up for a few minutes. Yup, that was it, he was done for the day and I knew it. I left him there and went back out on my own.
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Ooohhh, FrenchMystiqueTours, enjoy!
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We are taking our kids on their first trip to Europe and I dread how my 13 yo daughter is going to be that first day. My 14 yo son is real easy going, but if my daughter isn't feeling good, no one around her is happy. While she has never taken a red-eye, she has never slept on a plane or in a car for that matter. We flew from PHL to Phoenix and our flight was delayed for hours and we didn't arrive until 3am east coast time. She didn't even close her eyes.
I was so happy when we secured award tickets on the day flight from PHL to LHR. I used to take the day flight whenever possible when I traveled to the UK frequently for work. You arrive at 9-10pm, take a Benadryl and go to sleep. Wake up refreshed. But then AA had to go and do away with that flight when they merged with USAir. So now we are on the overnight. God help us and anyone who crosses her path that first day.
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OK good luck, lolfn, from one parent of teen daughters to another.
Fortunately ours are older now and much more pleasant, but there were some dark days in the 12-15 age range.
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I'm with Suze on this one. I can't take the trip out of the equation. I can't take the 9 hour time difference out of the equation.
As I've thought about this, I realize that no matter what I do, I have jet lag. When I fly to Europe from Spokane, I take a nap when I arrive. I have jet lag for 2 or 3 days.
When I return home, it's usually in the afternoon, and I don't take a nap. I unpack, throw clothes in the washer, check my emails, go to Safeway for milk and something for dinner.
Then I go to bed at a normal time--maybe 9 p.m. and thereafter follow my pre-trip schedule. In the days after that, jet lag kicks my tiny little booty.
So no matter what I do, I'm screwed. It's about living in the west.
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Teenage daughters! I've been through that too.
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I would certainly nap. Have a nice time
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OK, I think we'll use all the tips here to try and sleep on the plane and push through the first day, but I'll have a Plan A and a Plan B for Day 1 in case some or all of us need to nap at some point. Thanks for the feedback! Good discussion.
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I finally watched an episode of House that had been sitting on the DVR for over a week. I've been going in and out of liking House lately. It's like watching the news - after a while, you need a break. Anyway, I had a free hour on Tuesday so I sat down and watched it. It was the one where Kutner dies. Where Kutner kills himself.
This is the third suicide this year. Third in three months. The first one I can't even talk about. The second one I probably could talk about, but I won't. It was a friend who used to be in my life, but who hasn't been in several years. There are things I could say, but I won't. I don't feel like I should. But the third - well, don't think that it did not occur to me that it shouldn't be in the same category because Kutner is fictional. Yes, I get that. Kutner is not real. But there lies the freedom to finally talk about suicide - there is no family to offend with a fictional person. There are no secrets that should be kept. There is nothing wrong with writing about a fictional character killing himself (other than the fact that it's weird that I'm so upset by it, but read on - you'll see).
This episode of House shook me up. Even now, two days later, I am having trouble putting down my feelings. So much so, in fact, that I have even considered that I should not write this. I thought about writing it on paper and shoving it under my bed. I thought about opening an anonymous blog and putting it up there. And then I decided not to. These are the musings of a mommy too - it's not all nice stories about what cute things the kids are saying and pictures of knitting. Maybe the reason there are so many suicides is that people think that they are alone with their bad feelings, that some people have a perfect life with a perfect marriage and nice kids and a comfortable house and that it's all good all the time. Well, that's a lie. Nobody has that. Everyone has days where the sadness and the bad thoughts and the need and the hunger are pushing past the door that you usually keep closed.
So I'm thinking all of this when I watch LOST last night, and Daniel is killed by his mother. Who writes this twisted crap? I mean, when Ben killed John Locke, that wasn't such a stretch - Ben is a monster. But to have Daniel killed by his mother? I was so shocked. And then again, another fictional character. To be so upset by things that aren't real. Then it hit me - maybe I'm not upset by things that are fictional, but that the fiction is so close to life. That there are things in real life that are sad and upsetting and hard to talk about, so we watch sad shows and read sad books and say we are saddened by them, but it's all just covering up the sad things that we don't want to talk about. I know I'd rather write about Daniel's mother than about my own failings as a mother. I'd rather write about how I felt watching House try to figure out why Kutner shot himself in the head than to write about my own thoughts and feelings about my friend who decided that he had enough of life.
What's the point? Do I have one? I know when I sat down and started typing I had a clear direction of where this was heading, and I have lost it. Maybe the point was to write it down. Nothing further than that. To write it down and get it out of my head and put it out there. Maybe someone will read this and know they are not alone. Maybe I'm just trying to not think about the fact that when I woke up this morning, my eye was stuck closed, and even though I think my cornea is ok, the thought that I may rip it again paralyzes me with fear and makes me so angry - so very angry - at the randomness of it all. I don't know anymore. I do know that I am out of time - it's time to go to school - so I need to wrap this up. Do I save it and finish later? Or do I publish now, with no nice ending, no silver lining, no assurances that this too will pass and tomorrow will be cute kid stories and finished knitting?
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By LAWRENCE M. FISHER, Special to The New York Times
Published: July 4, 1990
SUNNYVALE, Calif.— When makers of personal computers and work stations talk about mainframe computers, they often call them dinosaurs.
The implication is that these huge machines laboring away in glass-walled rooms surrounded by white-coated technicians are the industry's past; powerful desktop computers are its future. And in fact, more and more tasks that once required a mainframe are now being tackled by the PC or its more powerful desktop sibling, the work station, strung together on a network.
But far from killing the mainframe, in many businesses work station networks have fostered a complex computing environment that plays to the mainframe's strengths. Mainframe revenues are still growing at a little more than 10 percent a year, which off a base of more than $14 billion in 1989 is hardly indicative of a moribund industry. As one industry executive puts it, if these are dinosaurs, they are an awfully frisky breed.
Indeed, the three mainframe makers with the fastest growth are each preparing to introduce a new generation of machines. Hitachi Ltd., which has historically been a distant third to the International Business Machines Corporation and the Amdahl Corporation, tried to gain an advantage in June when it announced its next-generation mainframes well in advance of those two rivals, which are not expected to announce until sometime next year.
But analysts said the impact of the Hitachi announcement was lessened somewhat by delivery dates so far in the future - the second quarter of 1991 - that they will not predate the new I.B.M. or Amdahl machines by much.
Industry executives and analysts say the mainframe business has averaged about 10 percent growth a year for the last 20 years and could well continue at that rate for the next 10. But this is revenue growth, driven by existing customers upgrading to new and ever-larger machines. Unit growth, created by sales to new customers or new sites, is only in the low single digits and is not expected to accelerate, analysts say.
Analysts also say the growth is limited to I.B.M., which has 83 percent of the market, and to the so-called plug-compatible manufacturers, which make mainframes compatible with I.B.M.'s. These are Amdahl of Sunnyvale, Calif., and Hitachi of Japan, which resells its machines in the United States through Hitachi Data Systems Inc. in Santa Clara, Calif.
Two emerging trends in computing are expected to drive demand for mainframes and work stations simultaneously.
One is ''enterprise wide'' computing, where all the computers in a company are connected on a series of networks, a task of such complexity that it could be managed only by a mainframe. The other is ''client-server'' computing, where tasks are divided between the client - a work station or PC - and the server - a larger computer elsewhere on a network. While most work station companies also make machines they call servers, on complex installations the server is likely to be a mainframe.
''Legitimately, some work has gone from big machines to small machines, and it was the right place to go,'' said John C. Lewis, Amdahl's chairman and chief executive. ''That will continue, but what I think is going to happen is that customers are going to find that the best technical solution is a combination of centralized computer server capability and decentralized work stations,'' he said.
While work stations are increasingly used for personal productivity - design work in engineering or producing presentations and reports in the commercial world - data and applications crucial to a business are still likely to reside on the mainframe. When it comes to managing all of a bank's automatic teller machines, or coordinating reservations for airline seats, the mainframe's robustness and ability to process huge amounts of data are key.
''There are quite a few Fortune 500 companies whose health of the business is based on the ability of these monsters to keep running,'' said John B. Jones Jr., an analyst with Montgomery Securities.
Many companies have begun to use their large computer systems as an offensive weapon. Aided by a software technology called relational data base management, which is adept at processing complex requests and breaking down vast amounts of information in many ways, these companies constantly review their internal data, looking for ways to drive down the time to market of new products, cut inventories and improve manufacturing efficiency.
''People find as they start doing that, it gets complicated,'' said M. Bernard Puckett, the president of I.B.M.'s data systems division. ''The thing that mainframes remain good at is managing that complexity.''
As the ability of networks to move data has improved, companies are also finding that their efficiency is improved by having fewer mainframe sites. Organizations that used to have many data centers, each with their own modest-sized mainframe, are now consolidating those operations, which has driven demand for the very largest mainframes.
So while having the most powerful mainframe on the market has always been important for a manufacturer's bragging rights, it may now give a significant competitive edge, said Stephen Cohen, an analyst with the Soundview Financial Group in Stamford, Conn.


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The vastness of the MCG is an apt setting for the start of England's World Cup campaign given the scale of the challenge facing them against Australia.
It is a place where an Englishman could easily be swallowed up and spat out by the local hordes, who could number 90,000, with almost all of them expecting nothing but a glittering night for those wearing Australian gold.
Australia will be without their captain, Michael Clarke, after he was ruled out until at least their second match, against Bangladesh next Friday, with a hamstring injury, while their finisher, James Faulkner, is unfit too. But that will not change the swagger around Australian cricket, which is more defined than usual as the nation expects the team to deliver on its once-in-a-generation opportunity to win a World Cup on home soil.
Negotiating an opening match against this England team should just be a formality, so the thinking goes. Australia have beaten England in 13 of their last 15 matches in this country. England have won just one in nine one-dayers against Australia and beaten them only once at the MCG in 20 years of ODI cricket. They sacked their captain on the eve of the tournament for poor form and his replacement, Eoin Morgan, is not doing much better having scored only two runs in his past four innings, while there is general scoffing in Australia at England's lame attempts to dismiss the notion that Mitchell Johnson has them in a suffocating head lock.
And then there is the cultural difference between the teams. Australia are the epitome of the ultra-aggressive modern one-day team stocked full of powerful all-rounders (Shane Watson, Glenn Maxwell and Mitchell Marsh), aggressive batsmen (David Warner, Steve Smith and George Bailey) and plenty of variation in their attack. England are seen as a team stuck in a time loop, still hoping Test players can carry them home in one-day cricket playing a style not far removed from that which was almost good enough to win the World Cup here in 1992.
Then England's leading man, Ian Botham, turned up for the tournament late because he was starring in pantomime with Max Boyce. There are no such superstars in this England team, which will almost certainly mirror the one beaten in the tri-series final by Australia two weeks ago, meaning Ravi Bopara clings on to his place.
"It is great and everybody can't wait to get started," said Morgan. "It has been a long time coming and everyone has been looking forward to this game in particular. We know the group stages are going to be tough but the first port of call is trying to get to that quarter-final."
On the last disastrous Ashes tour it was the failure of the senior players to perform that was blamed for the 5-0 defeat. This trip will be painful too if Morgan and Ian Bell do not click or James Anderson and Stuart Broad fail to make the early breakthroughs that remain England's best chance of winning.
Morgan's run is woeful. His hundred in Sydney at the start of this Australia tour stands out like a beacon from the rest of his scores. He averages 21 in one-day cricket for England since January last year.
"It is only five games since I scored a hundred so I do not have to look back that far to reconnect with what works well for me," he said. "I find it really easy to reconnect with the past and can be very individually focused when the chips are down."
Morgan will learn much about his players both here tomorrow and next Friday against New Zealand in Wellington. He is taking heart from the fact that all but one (Moeen Ali) of his expected team here have played at the MCG before. But even for MCG veterans on both sides, tomorrow's game will be different and Morgan senses the weight of expectation on Australia could work in his side's favour. "I know it is a nice pressure to have but there will be 90,000 Australians cheering them on and if it does go against them it will be interesting to see how they react," he said.
Cabin fever and boredom can be the biggest threats in the group stage of the World Cup with England playing six matches over the next 27 days. By contrast, in the spring they play three Tests in the Caribbean in only 22 days, so timing a run of form is crucial and not absolutely necessary from day one.
This game has been hyped to the maximum by the organisers but both teams can still qualify for the last eight even if they only beat Scotland, Bangladesh and Afghanistan in the group stage, while more tickets have been sold for the South Africa v India match here, which has already reached capacity of in excess of 90,000. Tomorrow a couple of thousand will be available on the gate. As regards the whole tournament, 850,000 of the targeted one million tickets have been sold, a reflection of sensible pricing.
Adult tickets for a group name cost not much more than $20. You would not have paid much more for a ticket in 1987, the year when a team last reached a World Cup final in worse form than England, who have lost 15 of their 25 games over the past 12 months.
But perhaps history offers hope. Allan Border's team were young and evolving, just like England's. And, just like England, they played the hosts of the tournament (India) in the opening match. Australia won that game and never looked back. Perhaps Morgan was right when he ended his pre-match press conference saying: "Our time will come again."
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Shiva Rea – "From that moment, I could not go back."
I'm a person of about 64 or 108 passions. Not every passion is meant to be for somebody else.
Modeling the 64 arts, I have passions that are part of a tantric sadhana. There's a powerful form of sustainability when passion is married with compassion. There's also a process of honing in.
My core passion lies in the moving arts. In moving prayers and movement meditation. That's also what I teach. It's rooted in yoga, but there are additional pathways that extend back to having lived in Africa and India. In these parts of the world, movement is essential to the flow of life. Many of my passions all feed back into this core. To the rhythm of life and those rhythmic cycles. Similarly, I'm passionate about the seasons and seasonal cooking.
I'm also passionate about spontaneous music. We have instruments lying all around our home. I don't claim a particular instrument as my own, but I love drumming! Recently, I picked up an n'goni, which is like a harp from Central Africa. It's a beautiful sound.
Some of my other passions extend into activism. I'm particularly passionate about solar energy. I live in a solar home. I drive an electrical car. I have a solar light project called "Be a Light," which is a passion that fuels my daily life. I believe solar energy is the metaphor of our time – despite an abundant clean energy source, we still choose toxic sources.
I grew up completely on the ocean in Hermosa Beach and moved to an intense intellectual urban environment while my father attended UC Berkeley. That experience exemplifies an important theme in my life – the split between the head and the heart. In the west, we're simply taught that intelligence exists in the brain and our heart is just a fantastic pump. We often lack a way to reintegrate slower brainwave frequencies. Through meditation and creativity, this subtle reintegration occurs and an inner art happens.
Embracing my head over my heart, I over developed analytically. More precisely, I over developed a perception that did not integrate the other aspects of my kinesthetic intelligence.
My undergraduate and graduate degree are in world arts and cultures. It's an interdisciplinary program of anthropology, ethnomusicology, dance ethnology, folklore, and art history. At that time, the only PhD program was in cultural anthropology. It was a very, very long and arduous intellectual process, even though I was studying what I love – the power of movement in culture.
No matter how much I embodied movement, yoga teacher training was a radical shift from academia for me. It may not seem radical in retrospect, but at that time, yoga was not popular. My grandparents were very disappointed.
Now, I understand kinesthetic intelligence is my strongest intelligence. That's how I was born in the world. My parents could not stop me from moving. Everywhere there was music that meant that you could move. That was California in the late 60s, so there was no problem with a dancing girl.
I shut all of that down in order to acclimate into the educational environment. I think sometimes that happens with women, or for people who have spiritual intuition. They justify, "Okay, to participate in this larger dialogue I have to sacrifice and learn this other language and this other form of communication."
The thing is, the body really speaks your poetry.
An example that isn't really addressed in the yoga world, is that not everyone responds to structural alignment cues in the same way. For many people, cues keep them in an outer brainwave frequency. In an intellectual mode we adopt in relationship to our body. What happened for me is that the poetry of the body, the kinesthetic intelligence, became the basis for the flow of Vinyasa. The tantric orientation of being moved rather than moving.
In many ways I continue to be a researcher, integrating our intelligence, investigating the roots of yoga through movement meditation, observing as much as possible walking down the beaten path in India, and transforming what got lost in translation.
Prostration practice is the main way I integrate the different aspects of my background. From the scholar Christopher Tompkins, to the earliest tantric prostration practices from which the Vinyasa that we practice today emerges. Though less known, movement meditations are the power of prostrations. Blending our deepening understanding of yoga with our current needs is what everyone is engaged in – in one way or another. Integrating different aspects of our background, different aspects of ourself.
There was a strange time in my life when these profound, life and death shifts were happening.
I went through brain cancer with my mother. It was a nine month process and wasn't something she could heal from at that time. There's still not a cure for Glioblastoma, just an extension of a couple of years. It kind of cracked my heart. I had also broken my pelvis in a car accident right before the diagnosis.
For me, breaking my pelvis was actually an incredible gift and I experienced it as such. It was unusual because I was already doing third series Ashtanga, but I was actually listening to Krishna Das when I was broadsided. I didn't see the car. They ran a red light, so they were going fast but I wasn't. The next moment I had blood from head to toe. I felt God's presence so strongly, thick as the heatwaves when Joshua Tree gets hot. Thick with God.
All of the firemen were worried. The crash knocked fear out of me rather than put it into me. From that moment, nothing was the same. Not even my yoga practice was the same. Just moving toes, moving fingers, breathing. I was strangely ecstatic. That surprised the hell out of me because when you experience something like that, there's so much life force. It's like when you're pregnant. There's so much life force that's sent. I could feel that force was more important than all the deep asanas I was doing. I was like, "Wait a minute."
It was a good initiation. From that moment, I could not go back. Although I struggled.
I think that the world today doesn't know how to integrate mystical experiences people have with their own life force. Even just the experience of the healing force or experience of, when they're in yoga, another kind of intelligence moving through them, we kind of default back to, "Okay, right." I don't think that that's happening as much. I think we're learning to trust these integrated intelligences and we're allowing them to change us. That was my experience. I keep most of that very private. I'd say it was like a long goodbye.
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Results from the IHP+ fifth monitoring round are beginning to be discussed at multi-stakeholder meetings at country level, with Comoros and Pakistan being the first countries to complete the process and publish results.
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Pakistan held a multi-stakeholder meeting on 2 November 2016 to present key findings and agree on actions to improve practices and accountability. Representatives from the Ministry of Heath, GIZ, World Bank, WHO, JICA, KFW, USAID, UNICEF, UNAIDS and UNFPA attended. Discussions highlighted this was the first time for Pakistan to participate in IHP+ monitoring; and people agreed that this country-based approach demonstrated the need to improve routine monitoring of health sector cooperation.
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