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My vote is yes. I would have been cool with not trading PG if he at least did SOMETHING reasonable for another player.
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My vote is yes. I would have been cool with not trading PG if he at least did SOMETHING reasonable for another player.
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Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?
I voted no which really means, "Not yet." While I absolutely share others' extreme frustration that no moves were made, I'm pondering the possibility that details we may not know about dictated Larry's actions. For example, let's say that he either couldn't or didn't want to trade for younger players "of potential" such as Okafor or Noel. Then we shift our attention to "support" veterans and salaries become a significant part of the equation. Factor in Larry's belief (shared by at least some of us) that playoff experience is paramount to building a contender and then ponder the idea of signing one or even TWO veterans cheaply after a buyout. Terrence Jones and Aaron Afflalo, while not world beaters, would be nice, cheap additions by month's end, still in time for a playoff push.
We have to be strategic with our salary management. Signing Jones and/or Afflalo post-buyout would be savvy moves. Drafting someone this summer who can contribute a little next year and show developmental potential, being frugal with signing a couple veterans, and getting lucky by landing a star or perhaps a respected leader & former all-star (a la David West) will be critical to the team's success next year and beyond. If not, I actually believe Larry will show himself out.
"I think if he is and we pass on Leaf we'd be some dumb mother ****ers."
- Larry Bird to Kevin Pritchard before their pick on Draft Day
They should've fired him in or before May 2015, maybe even June 2014. Aside from drafting Turner, every move since then has been bad, imo. You could make an argument about the Hill/Teague trade or maybe even the Jefferson signing, but that's it.
More importantly, he's done a **** ton of irreparable damage. I know people aren't hot on David West any more, but how many guys like West and Hill have completely soured on the Pacers, let alone our current star player?
Today didn't move the needle at all for me.
My needle moved to "Ask him for his entire Mock Draft List rankings, then politely agree that he should retire from the Pacers Organization so that we all can move on" the second the Trade Deadline passed and seeing that our Team didn't improve.
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I'm certainly ready for him to go at this point and see a different direction, but it doesn't matter. He will retire to Florida long before the Simons would ever consider canning him. His seat will never be hot.
The whole league knows paul george is available? Sounds like people were calling and bird not listening. How does this mean the whole league knows PG is available?
Also, what was the best offer on the table? I haven't heard anything that sounds like it is guaranteed to be better than paul. Also, we don't know anything beyond speculation.
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I was ready for him to go when they traded Danny, that was inexcusable. I know Pritchard made the trade but Bird had to approve it. Everything went to hell after that trade and it has not recovered. Call it the Curse of trading Danny or Karma but they earned it.
All it takes is one idiot quoting another idiot that sent out an uninformed tweet which is all of a sudden taken as gospel. 7 first round picks, 2 all-star level starters, a few million in cash, a couple of Lambos, valuable real estate and a lifetime supply of fine scotch in exchange for PG --- and Bird is a moron for turning it down because he doesn't like scotch and should be fired immediately, along with the Simons being stripped of their ownership and Boomer being neutered.
Honestly, I didn't care about any other tweets besides the one from Woj. Indiana and Boston talked. We knew who they wanted, and we knew what assets they had.
Knowing Bird, the BKN picks was the price of admission, and it was probably a Boston trade or bust. When it was said and done, I don't think the other teams had a chance at Paul George.
Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?
I actually think trading for Teague and Thad were great moves, bringing in the washed up Al Jeff was just just meh to me. I could take it or leave it, just like Al's play this year. Drafting Myles was great.
However, having a roster full of redundant players, not keeping Lance for a paltry amount or a reduced contract length, not addressing key missing holes in our team's construction. Not keeping Mahinmi. Openly saying in interviews that he doesn't even consider chemistry or fit in building a team, just thinks that you can throw them out there and let them figure it out. This team has been at the bottom in rebounding ever since Lance left. The lack of open communication with players that we traded, our superstar franchise player. Trying to change your superstar's position.
Yeah I'd say the negatives outweigh the positives by alot.
You just watch, Bird will probably have a Presser here in a couple of days and say something that is a complete dig at Paul George. That will pretty much cement that he leaves.
You can't get champagne from a garden hose.
As I look around the NBA. Bird has done a pretty good job. Not as good as many, but better than a lot. Pacers are in pretty good shape right now. I know most of you are too close to the situation to see it, but in pretty good shape. Cap is in good shape, have some real assets.
Not for me. As mentioned previously, he hasn't been the greatest but certainly hasn't been the worst. Big fan of his draft input also (and I think we'll need this in the next few years).
Bird has done some questionable things, but the Granger trade was the right move in the heat of the moment. Obviously Bird overrated that roster's maturity, but you can't blame him given what they had accomplished in 2013 with Granger out.
Also, people put way too much weight on the mid-season trade deadline. How often does a mid-season trade actually significantly improve a team? The last time I can remember that happening was when Detroit traded for Wallace.
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I have no idea whether LB should be fired or if he should just quit after shaving his head or setting himself afire. WE HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT TRADES WERE OR WERE NOT DISCUSSED! Please keep that in mind while making FO decisions. Does PG hae a list of teams he would like to play for if he's traded? Does he have a list of players he would like to have join him in Indy. Do he and the rest of the team and Larry or Nate ever discuss these kinds of topics? Once again, we have very little to no information about what drives the decision process at the Pacers. There is an old saying that opinions are like A$$es, everyone has one and if you wait a bit they will show it.
Being such a well informed and adult individual, I checked out the final trades/lack of for the Pacers, threw my empty drink can at the TV, set my hair on fire and went to bed. As punishment, I refused to re-watch the last taped game again, that'll show 'em!
I'm done with the Pacers until tonight when we have a game!!!!!
What about Thad for first round pick.
Where are the comments from Hill that he soured on the pacers?
Last edited by Unclebuck; 02-24-2017 at 09:57 AM.
That team had issues that went far beyond keeping Granger around, I.e. Hibbert basically completely collapsed as a player.
Look at the players who have left the Pacers in recent years. The core of the 2013 and 2014 ECF teams. Except for George Hill who is injured more often then not, all the other players have done nothing. Lance has been out of the NBA for most of the season. Roy just got traded for a second round draft pick and West hasn't done anything. So losing all those players, and losing PG for at least 1 full season and to be where we are right now record wise, talent wise, cap wise, is not all bad.
How many top teams from the period 2012 through 2014 are better than the Pacers right now? Besides the Spurs?
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Had it come out that Bird decided to not upgrade to a guy 17 PPG because he was sentimental about Granger, there would have been plenty of livid fans given that the team was in desperate need of bench play for the looming Miami.
I really don't think that Paul George was that available. Larry took some calls but he wasn't shopping him. I think the media rehashing what little they knew over and over blew that out of proportion. I'm not at all upset that Larry didn't move Paul, I didn't want him to and anything less that both Brooklyn picks would have been too low IMO. I doubt if Larry ever had a fair offer that would merit a serious discussion.
Larry Bird qouted March 25th. 2015:
Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.
I'm down for Bird to leave...but it's really just because I'm ready for a new vision.
People like to blame Bird for breaking up a contender, but really all those key guys besides PG just broke down themselves and the last run went out the window with PG's broken leg.
But it's foolish to not understand that we've had a nice 7 years of playoffs (besides 1 season, the PG injury) and 2 ECF runs and a new GM could be all about the tank/rebuild.
As someone who has been a STH or gone to pretty much every game over the past 7 years, I have appreciated always being competitive and not tanking.


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What other current owners in the league have paid for their own arena? What teams currently have free rent in the arenas? And there are options that could potentially be better then edmonton, it really disturbs me the attitude that edmontonians have that there's no place better for a hockey team then here. Especially when we're the most northern major professional sports team in North America. The risk comes when the economy totally tanks and people and business can no longer afford to go to hockey games here in edmonton, but Katz has to continue to pay huge salaries that were signed prior to a drop in the economy. If there were semi guaranteed contracts like the NFL I'm guessing Katz and NHL owners in general would need less support from the governments at all levels.
You keep banging the same drum here. So what if the Edmonton economy completely collapses in worst possible scenarios. IF that were to happen do you think for a moment that a non relocation deal would be worth the ink its printed on?
Like any owner in any pro sport in NA Katz would be looking for concessions/renegotiation/kickbacks etc as he cries about how untenable it is in the market and threatens to sell or fold the club unless he gets his way.
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|2007-10-01, 10:40
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claiming that she's pregnant and all...
who know's lol
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|2007-10-01, 13:20
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Nonetheless, the baby (which would otherwise be 100% unwanted and likely terminated without a second thought) represented an undeniable connection to Makoto, which was probably the single thing significant to her. Makoto's rejection of that link would've driven her crazy.
|2007-10-01, 13:42
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She was teasing her about the fact Makoto saved Setsuna. Conveniently, the usual "shining knight" cliché leads to a "love at sight" from the girl.
Sekai was poking fun of her. That's why Setsuna was embarassed and said it was enough, while Sekai was obviously exaggerating "it is so romantic". Setsuna is her precious friend.
If Sekai knew, she wouldn't react like this when Kotonoha blurted the truth.
|2007-10-01, 14:41
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No I'm not deforming what u said, at least it's not my goal, my target, my main objective.
I just give my own opinions about what u said.
Check this:
I've looked in the 12th episode again and Sekai clearly said to Setsuna:
"I made some inquiries about the guy you like".
CQFD (translation for bloody americans: WTFWT).
I'm sorry again, but Sekai knows from the beginning that Setsuna loved Makoto.
Replay the ep plz.
Sekai is as guilty as hell.
Sekai just kept bad tripping alone in her bed, she didn't want to see anybody. When Setsuna was already here, she looked really hardly sociable.
So she didn't go to pharmacy to see other people.
Sekai is a badtrippin girl ("and dark bitch too").
Because she never did the right things according to the other people's feelings, from the begining. And she didn't attemp to hurt anybody but indirectly she did but she didn't know it could.
She piloted a relation and tried to take some profit of the problems of the couple she has created.
The example of the special training is the perfect to explain that.
She is not totally stupid. It's a total cheating and she knows it ( "u can touch my breasts on the clothes, kiss me, fuck me" for training: Morality: she cheats Kotonoha (that's all) and pretexted helping Makoto. She could expect the results on Makoto because she knows from the beginning he is perverted as hell.
And she don't like herself to be cheated on at the end.
Too funny for me.
Judgement day, oh dear god!!
The baby has 2 kind of importances:
I'm sorry but I just see the 1st choice. Sekai is not in a berserk mode as Kotonoha, so i can't forgive to her as easily as for Kotonoha.
For me the main target of the baby is to lock Makoto forever with her.
The other thingz are useless.
She killed Makoto, so the father, that's why I'm sure she didn't care about her own child. She is selfish.
For Makoto, Sekai and Kotonoha are at the same level in his heart the difference comes from the pregnance but in my opinion he both like them.
He just wanted to take some distances from Sekai but at the end he still loved her.
Every characters are total lyers in this series, so I just took the concrete facts for my interpretations.
|2007-10-01, 14:51
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I'm kinda wondering about the epilogue at the end of this episode.
Makoto was telling his own story of when he was secretly in love with Kotonoha. While he was doing that, they were showing the whole school and the characters that were involved with Makoto, Kotonoha, and Sekai, excluding Setsuna though, but could it that have been an alternate setting where Makoto, Sekai, or Kotonoha never existed?
They did show Makoto's cellphone at the end though, on top of the bench of the rooftop.
Although an OVA about Setsuna's reaction when she comes back would be cool. Even just to show everyone's reaction around school would be reasonable. Although in one of the endings in School Days
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|2007-10-01, 15:10
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|2007-10-01, 15:12
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But if I remember correctly, Sekai never went to school for a good while and stayed in her small, dark room. She may have gotten sick or whatever being a couch potato all that time. There were probably Psychological reasons for this as well.
So she threw up once in her room (1st time she thinks she has a baby), and then another time (nothing came out of her mouth) in class with Makoto. But she (or the writers) never shown these symptoms again. Correct me if I'm not, since I haven't witnessed pregnancy or birth IRL
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|2007-10-01, 15:40
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Now things do much more sense i guess:
As seen in this episode, Sekai says she was her best friend.
That statement implies either Setsuna agreed to leave Makoto to her, or Setsuna just gave up or something.
Considering she cares for Sekai the most, she probably gave up by herself.
Even though Setsuna helped, what's it the deal then?
Feel free to think it was conscious or not.
We know the result though the training didn't change Makoto at all. he was perverted all around the way before.
As for the purpose of the training, it doesn't exactly match with her reactions thereafter, and the pool even either.
that's why her "imaginary conflict" was for: her feelings driven her into questionable acts, though she didn't have any ill attention.
as for the first statement, we will never know. But i'm perfectly sure if Sekai was using her baby, she would have that guilt point in her imaginary breakdown.
I strongly beg to differ, considering such character isn't stable at all.
Look, what would happen if Kotonoha wasn't that clinging? None of this would happen either.
Ironically, if any of the girls didn't do something stupid, the consequences could be different, though the cheating part wouldn't be prevented as it is only Makoto's responsability.
Much like any person getting murderous impulse, the consequences are completely ignored in the process, and only after that, the guilt kicks in.
The fact Sekai killed Makoto isn't a proof she doesn't care of her child. If she accepted Makoto offers, THAT would be the proof of her indifference.
|2007-10-01, 15:45
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|2007-10-01, 16:56
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All right!
Here we go.
Abortion: A choice has to be done by the both, it could be a common one or a selfish one.
A murderer: It's only personnal, so just selfish.
So make your own opinion about this. We have not the same same way to think.
For te divorced people and the widow it's totally out of the topic. (boring, they are not married)
Sekai loves to cook with Makoto, to kiss Makoto, to fuck Makoto, to dance with Makoto... And she get the child she was probably dreaming about. The Makoto's one.
Makoto is afraid by the pregnance of Sekai and it has been a big shock for him to learn it with the whole classroom. He never dumped Sekai until he finds back Kotonoha. That's at this point that he understands he has done very bad thingz and wanted to take everythingz from the beginning with Kotonoha but to much thingz have changed.
Remember, the masked people in dark with the flower scene, is the only thing totally true the writers have given to us.
Very important!
Sekai is energic inda outside, but lost and so weak inda inside.
Replay it.
The baby is not mentionned, because you are in Sekai mind, and her main problem is not the baby but just keeping Makoto. She realized if she never tries to present Kotonoha to Makoto, maybe Makoto should be just for her.
Setsuna (who explained always the true thingz to Sekai when she was still here) put out her mask and explains that Sekai has made all the choices to lead the final situation on the final point.
Makoto is not forgivable, but Sekai has played a big role into the radical transformation of Makoto.
Makoto is a born perverted, but not a sex beast before Sekai sex-entertains him.
The behaviour of Makoto changes a lot all along the series (lol, i'm laughing myself but that's true). At the beginnig, I didn't consider the Makoto's choices as bad, at least not critical for the safety of everybodies'feeligz, but after...
Where did you see Setsuna gave up?
Something sure:
She DISCOVER with Makoto's stupidity that Sekai slept at Makoto's and ate breakfast with him too. That's the point she understood they have mutual feelings. And that's at this point she "could" give up (and try to catch a memory of Makoto without being seen to protect Sekai, her best friend).
From that point, Setsuna wants to help Sekai as Sekai helps her in the past (after Makoto "saved" Setsuna).
Morality: For me Sekai is as guilty as Makoto (and has earned a lovely death^^)
If Sekai hasn't gone more far than kissing Makoto at Gakuenmaden station, (without any trainings) things should be clearly different and Makoto shouldn't have changed as much. But we'll never know.
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|2007-10-01, 17:13
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I'm wondering if you are making fun of me of what not. Quoting parts are much more convenient to answer specifically on parts of messages, and it avoid to subtely ignore some points of the said quote.
An abortion isn't always a choice made by both, especially here. To abide to someone else choice isn't something you can consider as your own either.
Again, her murder has nothing to do with her care about the baby.
As for makoto's epiphany, that's why it was stupid, considering the amount of times Kotonoha was heartbroken. The official break up should have been enough, but nope. nowhere near.
as lust itself, it was already seen in episode 4 BEFORE he got the training, as he tried to grope Kotonoha.
There is nothing new with Makoto at all, he was always perverted and lustful.
the rest is already commented before.
|2007-10-01, 18:09
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You'll understand Makoto has changed (a little bit but he has changed).
That's evident.
"She used the baby to keep Makoto" is valid because she fucked too much with him and he was still with Kotonoha.
What has to happen happenned. That's all.
Sekai didn't hope for a baby, but it's because of her own choices. That's how it could be interprated with the "masked" setsuna in Sekai 's mind. For me, it's a part of the true answer.
Sekai has accepted the baby in the infirmary, hoping Makoto will do the right choice for her.
By love.
But he's totally afraid.
In the mind theater, the baby didn't appear because it's a direct consequence of Sekai choice, and the explanation of masked Setsuna begins when Sekai change the seats and then presents the flower to Makoto.
According to this, the main point is not the baby, but keeping Makoto.
That's all.
The baby is the perfect ultimate weapon. The announcement in the classroom has put a huge pressure on Makoto ("be with me and the child, your reputation will be less touched, than if you dump me or ask me for abortion").
And at the beginning Makoto has a very good reputation in the school.
Then Otome left Makoto because in my mind, she didn't want the baby to have no parents in love.
Your feelingz about it?
And for Kuroda? The same?
Sorry for teasing you, but I don't like to take every sentences post of somebody to destroy one by one each arguments he tries to give.
Nothing personnal.
|2007-10-01, 18:15
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How is Makoto unforgivable??
She was the one who created THE SEXBEAST
Is it because of the PM that he sent; his language wasn't offensive
he just told her that "if that baby is a problem to you kotonoha knows a good hospital" what he means was that if its a burden to you then abort it i dont care but if you dont want to ill still take responsibility. He didnt say that but his actions
when he was BBQPWN was shouting it.
|2007-10-01, 18:35
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Makoto can do anything he wants to Sekai, she is totally dependant since the folk dance event. And he took some distances from Sekai because he has been seen fucking in the lounge with Otome.
Sekai take in her head the boomerang she has sent.
And that's just justice!
When Makoto mentionned "Kotonoha is not pregnant" implicitly, it means that Sekai is at the same level as kotonoha in Makoto's heart but the pregnance is too much for him because he is just a student (too young yet) and the woman he has chosen is the one he has chosen from the beginning, the one he trully loves. Sekai, it was just for a good fucking session but he thinks he still has some feelings for her. But the problems he gets with the full sex with every girls have probably disturbs the Makoto's reflection.
That's why, he feels sure of his own feelings about Kotonoha because it's one of the only girls he has never fucked.
He don't wanted to hurt Kotonoha anymore and then kiss Kotonoha in front of Sekai: He acted for the first time responsabilities as a man for Kotonoha but it's already too late.
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This is one of the most senseless, stupidly violent animes I've watched ever in my entire anime watching career (Higurashi is in a close second). I'm sorry for my negative opinions for this show. I'm a sucker for the love comedy/drama anime genre and I was expecting that from this after the first 2 episodes. I stopped at ep7 because thats what I've had up to. I pretty much knew something was wrong by now so I decided to skip to ep12 to watch the ending and boy was I in for a surprise. Just sick, plain sick. I feel so sick now knowing the ending. WTF...Where are their parents? Why do these things always happen to minors in anime. I know the usually setting in anime show happen to be young people (highschool kids) but still. Perhaps, this is why I'm so upset. I know its just anime characters but as you watch more and more anime you'll find yourself more and more attached to the charaters. I was rooting for Sekai, and to find her being killed and gutted just like that made me sick and to top it off they show a Psychotic Katsura holding Motoko's head on a boat. I'm sorry but this is to unreal for words. I really dont see this show getting licensed in the states at all. Whew sorry for my little rant guys.
Note to self: research any new anime shows before mindlessly leaching them off bt.
|2007-10-01, 18:59
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Evn if it is slightly, it doesn't change the fact he was most likely like this and even without the "help" of sekai, he would act like a beast, as suggested in ep2 and ep4.
She didn't hope it, and she gets it as a consequence. That i never implied the opposite, so?
For anyone, the masked setsuna part has a good chunk part of truth, it already said it twice FFS.
That's what the theatre was for: to show what she wanted to do, and how to have him, even without knowing it.
That's why i said at least thrice that considering the lack of mention of the baby in the theatre, chances she is pregnant without even using it as a blackmail/grappling move to get Makoto are HIGH.
Furthermore, when a guy impregnates his girlfriend, he has AT LEAST EQUAL responsability into it.
Now, she is complaining he simply dumped it. see how anyone can complain?
By the grace of aiur... a baby is made with the help of TWO PEOPLE. Unless it has special condition like a rape, one person isn't the only one responsible of it.
I'm wondering if you actually know how devastating the effect on a future mother about having a child, even being young and immature as sekai.
Being oblivious how a sexual partner can get pregnant, because of his lust is something deeply stupid. If we add how he claim he doesn't have anything to do and it was her fault only, there is a HUGE problem in that reflexion.
Makoto is by far, the most responsible for both miseries: Sekai's pregnancy, and Kotonoha breakdown.
And frankly, considering how she was dominating on Makoto's behaviour, it is clear she is NOT letting him doing whatever he wants. She even tracks him down when the idiot tries to do something stupid.
That said, both girls were erratically clinging on him, while even since the festival, it is broken. (not that even before, it was stupid for both of them)
as for the later part, it has been debatate so much, and it is up to anyone to determine what were his "feelings".
That said, i suspect the bad script is a huge factor of this wishy washy attitude, and this personality shift near of the end of 12
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JP November 22, 1984
US October 18, 1985
EU February 15, 1987
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US April 21, 2003
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EU March 6, 2009
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1. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
It's a shame. HTC hasn't let their investors down yet, but the minute Apple flexes its government muscle, people bail.
39. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
It's a shame HTC couldn't come up with their own ideas instead of copying Apple's. Oh wait...I forgot when it comes to Android, it's a half baked execution.
56. luis_lopez_351 (Posts: 951; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
Its funny because the iphone copied some of the blackberries and original PALM OS ideas. Get a life you what ever the F_ck you are (troll isnt even a good enough word for you)
70. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
u mad? Everyone copies someone in the tech world, but it becomes a problem when they directly copy the competitor, in this case, HTC and Samsung copying Apple. Get over it, it's the truth. And lol @ u and Sqiggy talking tough in comments.
2. PhoneUser (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
People go where the money is and they get scared when someone shakes their pockets......its so F-ing stupid but thats how people are.
17. rican (Posts: 132; Member since: 02 Jul 2011)
wouldnt you if your money was at stake.
4. andro (unregistered)
its seems apple thirst for control will be allowed so that it can become a dictatorship. islaves rejoice Apple will be able to release new 'phones' year after year with little or no changes and have no market rivals,be happy you will handing over buckets of cash for this divine honour
5. thetruthy (unregistered)
This is less about people going where there money is, because frankly anyone here is a liar if they say they dont do the same please stop with the fanboy nonsense. Nobody wants to lose money bottomline. This whole thing isnt about that for Apple its them trying to remove any challengers, and the Android operating system is its biggest competitor with HTC and Samsung being the best phone makers right now. They keep trying to make them lose their business, and as result will lose its biggest competitors. Blackberry and Windows phon are nowhere near a threat to Apple as the Android phones are. Just to prove my point why does Apple keep targeting HTC and Samsung as opposed to the other countless amount of Android phone providers to eliminate the competition and the more the courts allow this to go on we will see down to just Apple and Windows phone as choice for smart phones as blackberry seems to be dieing a slow death among the fact nobody wants one. But hey to the fanboys that have to curese in a post about a "phone" good luck and get help......
6. messiah (Posts: 438; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)
The world is getting too small..... for cellular use
7. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
Bottom line is that Apple has the right to protect their intellectual property. The courts wouldn't rule in Apples favor is there wasn't some kind of infringement.
So... to all you idiots that are saying that apple is the bad guy wake up! You would do the same thing if you had a company and you were losing profits because a competitor, either intentionally or unintentional, infringed on your ideas.
15. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
No, I wouldn't. First off, Apple isn't losing profits in any meaningful way. They are the most profitable company in the world, barring oil companies perhaps. Secondly, other companies are more than willing to make deals with "infringing" companies where they get royalties for phones sold. Microsoft does this. And HTC has agreed to such deals already with companies like Microsoft, so we know that they're willing to do so.
No, Apple didn't give a s**t about Android's "infringements" until Android gained the momentum that it did in the market. It's not about losing profits. Apple has a fascist market philosophy: they can't stand the thought of anyone else being successful in the same market as the one they occupy/dominate. Therefore, they aim for any means they can in order to destroy the competition through use of government force, rather than simply making products so good no one will want anything else.
21. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
Your argument holds no water and here is why...
It doesn't matter when a company sues for infringement. Bottom line is that Apple has every right to protect their intellectual properties now... tomorrow... or five years from now. Why a company would waste legal fees and court time to sue a company that has the possibility of failing?
As Apple watched Android grow their legal teams studied and found obvious infringements that now need to be addressed due to the popularity of the platform. Its smart business practice
26. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
So is it smarter business practice to strike a deal with the supposedly infringing company wherein you're guaranteed to make a killing in royalties, or do you spend millions in legal fees to try to get a decision that won't be granted, piss a lot of people off, and lose out on the opportunity to get those royalties once your case is eventually thrown out (as this case still could be) all against a company that obviously isn't going to actually destroy your already insane profit levels?
In terms of public good will, Apple is its own worst enemy.
22. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
As usual your blinded by your fanboy hate for Apple. Did you read that Apple tried to negotiate a deal with Samsung for over a year before they took them to court? How do you know Apple hasn't tried to work out a deal with HTC also? YOU DON'T and that's the point. You speculate and make stuff up in your head to rationalize your Apple hatred and fandroism.
Android has copied core functionalities of iOS and Apple has patents for it. Why should they not sue to get royalties or android has to stop using the patents.
27. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
See, you're blinded yourself. Why would HTC strike a deal with Microsoft and not Apple? If Apple's business dealings with everyone else on the planet are any indication, it's that Apple probably wasn't looking for a reasonable royalty amount. They were probably either looking to threaten HTC and Samsung into shutting down on their own OR bordering on extortion with the fees they were seeking to obtain.
Apple's pulled too many stunts for me to just assume they're the good guy in anything anymore.
28. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
Please clarify,
What stunts has Apple pulled that was the deciding factor of which made you hate Apple products so much?
31. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Ah, be careful, Dave. I didn't say I hate Apple products now did I?
Apple's handling of events like Antennagate and Trackergate, stealing ideas from app developers, taking app developers' app names for their own services and then telling the developers to change the app names, purposely bidding in bulk for parts early on in order to manhandle suppliers into doing business with them at prices way below what Apple should be paying, striking deals to purposefully minimize sales associates' commission at indirect retailers, forcing the same retailers to buy a 3000 dollar display in order to present their products, trying to get jailbreaking declared a felony...
Isn't this enough for you, Dave? Do I really need to say any more?
33. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
I was accusing you but that is also why I asked for clarification...
While I hear what you are saying most of your points are rumors and hearsay.
Businesses dont have to sell Apple product now do they? They sell them because the devises bring in cutomers. Have you ever been to an Apple store?
There are a lot of products out that I feel are over priced. I just dont buy them. I dont go around ripping the company because I dont like what they charge for their product.
I am all for jainbreaking but I also look at it as a form of hacking. Hacking is frowned upon and in many cases illegal. Especially when it causes loss of profit.
37. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
No, everything I've discussed has been documented, even here at Phonearena.
I've been to an Apple store, yes I've seen the sheep there. It's disgusting, really.
I'm not just ripping Apple for their products being horrendously overpriced (which they are).
Jailbreaking is only hacking the device that YOU already paid for. And while other companies have taken steps to prevent similar practices (and backpedaled when the customers reacted badly, a la Motorola) Apple is the only company in the market that tried to get the practice declared a FELONY OFFENSE. Do you understand the consequences of being convicted of a felony? It isn't pretty, Dave. But Apple wanted to do that to THEIR customers because they're control freaks.
45. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
I would actually respect your opinion more if it was simply that.... "Your opinion" but by your blatant show of ignorance when labeling the people in an Apple store as sheep is simply disturbing and unwarranted.
With that said you sir have shown me nothing more than being a typical TROLL. You don't like the product so you bash the devise and the customers it attracts. Sounds narcissistic to me. You seem intelligent enough to formulate an un-bias opinion. Unfortunately you fail.
49. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
*shrug* It is just my opinion that they're sheep. I'll acknowledge that. And I know that not everyone buys Apple products without being informed of their choices. But so many times I hear the reasoning "I'm buying the iPhone because that's what my friends have." "I'm buying the iPhone because I already have a Mac." "I'm buying the iPhone because it's cool and has apps."
This is sheeplike behavior, and it irritates me. It would irritate me as well if this kind of behavior was dominantly reflected among Android users. But considering the low percentage of them polled who say they won't switch to the iPhone, I'd say that isn't the case.
Btw, I do appreciate you being more level headed and listening better than your cohort Taco. Thanks for listening, however briefly.
62. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)
Yeah... I guess I can see where you're coming from. I kind of feel likewise about many of the Android users I encounter...
Its becoming the popular thing to get android because they believe it stands for the anti-apple phone. Everyone should just buy the phone that they like the best.
If I was irrational then my apologies... I get frustrated as well trying to stand up for Apple because I enjoy the phone/pad.
Also, Thanks for recognizing my level head. I try to stay un-bias because I think Android is a good OS. In fact I am really looking forward to getting my hands on one for work. I like what the platform brings to the table and I like competition. I also think your comments, for the most part, are very level headed and fact based. I enjoy reading your input on many of the other articals... Anyway, I'm sure we will argue more in other articles!
63. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Well, if you meet Android users like that, they're dunderheads too. I agree that people should buy the phone that they like the best. I guess I just pay closer attention to companies' activities than the average customer.
Thank you for acknowledging that Android isn't craptastic, that alone qualifies you as level headed. I like when we can get along like this. :)
Anyway, time to take the nephews to the movies again.
53. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Can you provide a source that Apple wanted to make jailbreaking a felony? I've never seen that anwhere.
58. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Here ya go! :)
And here are the possible consequences of violating the DMCA:
/anticircumvention/faq.cgi#QID 124
Btw, DMCA abuse is a practice among Young Earth Creationists on Youtube as well.
64. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
No where in that article does it say Apple asked for it to be a felony so you're lying as usual?
What do young earth creatinists have to do with this?
It's funny because you accuse people of being sheep while you blindly hate Apple for no reason at all. All you have to do is not buy their product.
76. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Do you not understand what the DMCA is? It's the digital millennium copyright act. A criminal violation of it is considered a felony, the possible punishments for which I linked to. Apple fought against jailbreaking being declared exempt from the DMCA, claiming that jailbreaking was unlawful and covered as a crime by this law. It's all right there, which brings us back to the issue of your crippling reading comprehension problems.
77. LionStone (Posts: 844; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)
Daang...taco still gettin owned...same ol story
34. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Wow you really are totally irrational. Let's see
Antennagate - From using the iPhone for both AT&T and Verizon I can tell you this is pretty much a non issue. However Apple gave free cases to everyone who bought the phone and offered returns without a restocking fee.
Trackergate - Apple put out a sw update that fixed the problem
Taking app names - not really sure what you're talking about
Bidding in bulk for parts - I don't see how this is unfair business. Any business bids in bulk when they can to secure a better price. It's how things work. This one really shows what a giant fanboy you are and Apple hater. You don't think HTC and Samsung buy in bulk? You're a dumbass if you think they don't.
I doubt Apple has anything to do with associates commission. It's the companies that pick commision rates for their employees.
Once again you prove yourself to be totally unreasonable and a hopeless fandroid.
40. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Okay, let's go over what REALLY happened with these events:
Antennagate: Apple spent a MONTH trying to tell their customers that the issue was nonexistent- not "insignificant" or "easy to work around" but NONEXISTENT. They then took further steps to try to prove that other phones had the same problem, all the while ignoring that this didn't excuse them even if it was true (it wasn't). Then they declared the free bumper program and restocking fee less exchange program AFTER people refused to buy their bulls**t, even after deleting threads on their support forums mentioning the problem and their misinformation campaign, BUT these programs were for a limited time only. To this day they have made no effort to remedy the issue (which they could've easily done) or continue the free bumper program (again, something they could've easily done.)
Other manufacturers have completely redesigned speakers and other parts or included extended batteries for free for the life of the device. But not Apple. Nope. And to top it off, Apple has delayed the launch of the next iPhone by months, whereas other manufacturers would've had an improved model out in LESS time than normal.
Trackergate was ALMOST a repeat of the same, with Jobs trying to tell customers that "other companies do it too." As it was it took over a week for Apple to even acknowledge the problem existed.
As for proof of Apple taking app names/telling developers to change their own app names:
My point isn't illustrated so much by the focus of this article. Look at the last paragraph of the first page and read on. A development studio had an app called iPodrip. Apple told them to change it, and Steve Jobs gave the developer the finger when the dev personally appealed to him.
There's the source for Apple's practices with manufacturers. There's buying in bulk, and then there's buying in so much bulk that you practically corner the market.
And yes, Apple does. Ask any indirect AT&T retailer. Apple pays a direct small fee to them for selling the phone, and struck a deal with AT&T so that indirect retail salespeople don't get commission for data plans either. This is why indirect retailers like the one I worked for briefly only sold the iPhone if someone specifically insisted on it, because of the combination 3000 dollar display policy and the ridiculously small profit margin on selling the phone.
So Taco, shut your mouth or admit you're wrong. I'll take either one.


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- 2 teaspoons salt (or to taste)
- 3⁄4 teaspoon dried thyme
- 1⁄2 teaspoon pepper
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