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Romans 1:32 and although they know (AAPMPN) the ordinance of God, that those who practice (PAPMPN) such things are worthy of death, they not only do (3PPAI) the same, but also give (3PPAI) hearty approval to those who practice (PAPMPN) them. (NASB: Lockman)
Greek: hoitines to dikaioma tou theou epignontes, (AAPMPN) hoti oi ta toiauta prassontes (PAPMPN) axioi thanatou eisin, (3PPAI) ou monon auta poiousin (3PPAI) alla kai suneudokousin (3PPAI) tois prassousin. (PAPMPD)
Amplified: Though they are fully aware of God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them themselves but approve and applaud others who practice them. (Amplified Bible - Lockman)
Barclay: They are the kind of men who are well aware that those who do such things deserve death, and yet they not only do them themselves, but also heartily approve of those who do them (Daily Study Bible)
NCV: They know God's law says that those who live like this should die. But they themselves not only continue to do these evil things, they applaud others who do them.
NLT: They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (NLT - Tyndale House)
Phillips: More than this - being well aware of God's pronouncement that all who do these things deserve to die, they not only continued their own practices, but did not hesitate to give their thorough approval to others who did the same (Phillips: Touchstone)
Wuest: such are those who, knowing the judgment of God that these who practice such things are worthy of death, not only habitually do the same things but also take pleasure in those who practice them. (Eerdmans)
Young's Literal: who the righteous judgment of God having known -- that those practicing such things are worthy of death -- not only do them, but also have delight with those practicing them.
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Modified from Irving L. Jensen's excellent work "Jensen's Survey of the NT"
AND, ALTHOUGH THEY KNOW THE ORDINANCE OF GOD: hoitines to dikaioma tou theou epignontes (AAPMPN): (Ro 1:18,21; 2:1, 2, 3, 4, 5,21, 22, 23)
The late Dr. R. H. Graves of Canton, China, said that a Chinaman who read these verses declared that Paul could not have written it, but only a modern missionary who had been to China. It was such a perfect description of Chinamen! (Romans 1)
Know (1921) (epiginosko [Epiginōskō] from epí means upon but is used here to intensify the force of the following verb + ginosko = to know) (See related noun epignosis) means to know fully, to know with certainty, to become thoroughly acquainted with or to know thoroughly, exactly, fully, or completely. Epiginosko means to possess more or less definite information about, and can imply a degree of thoroughness. It speaks of full or added knowledge. To be fully acquainted in a discerning, recognizing manner. (e.g., 1Co 13:12 twice uses "fully known," Lk 1:4; Col 1:6; 2Cor 6:9, et al) To ascertain (find out with certainty) (Acts 23:28, 24:8). To recognize a thing to be what it really is.
In fairness, it should be noted that a few sources (J. Armitage Robinson in his commentary on Greek text of Ephesians) see no significant difference in meaning between epiginosko and ginosko and thus do not favor the idea of a more thorough or complete knowledge with the epiginosko/epignosis word group. Friberg (Analytical Lexicon of the Greek New Testament. Baker Academic) in fact divides the definitions of epiginosko as follows...
(a) recognize, know (Mt 11.27; cf. Lk 10.22);
(b) perceive, notice, become aware of (Mk 5.30; cf. Lk 8.46);
(c) learn of, find out (Lk 7.37)
(d) acknowledge, understand (2Co 1.13);
(a) know exactly, fully, completely (Lk 1.4);
(b) especially in relation to higher and spiritual knowledge received through revelation fully know, perfectly know (Col 1.6)
Wuest explains that epiginosko is...
Epiginosko also means to recognize a thing to be what it really is, to acknowledge, to understand (1Co 14:37, 16:18; 2Co 1:13, 14)
Here in Romans 1:32 epiginosko denotes the clear discernment which these suppressors of the truth about God in fact had of God's regulations of "right and wrong".
Robertson writes that
Why did they know "beyond a shadow of a doubt"? Paul explained...
Epiginosko in Ro 1:32 is in the aorist tense which indicates that they had been effectively made aware of God's ordinance. These men have a full experiential knowledge not only that the things they practice are wrong but also that they themselves are deserving of death. They know this is God's verdict, however much they seek to rationalize or even legalize these sins (cp states sanctioning gay marriage in the United States!). But this knowledge does not deter them from indulging in these forms of ungodliness (which speaks to the power of the fallen flesh!) In fact these truth rejecters unite with others to promote ungodly behavior and feel a sense of camaraderie with their partners-in-sin.
Ralph Earle (Word Meanings in the New Testament) has several notes on epiginosko...
Alford quotes Delitzsch as saying:
When epignosis is used, there is the assumption of an actual direction of the spirit to a definite object and of a real grasping of the same: so that we may speak of a false gnósis, but not of a false epignosis. And the Writer (of Hebrews - referring to He 10:26-note)
Wuest commenting on Peter's use of the noun epignosis in 2 Peter 1:2 writes that
Knowledge" or epignosis is full, perfect, precise knowledge as opposed to gnósis, imperfect, partial knowledge. Strachan says: "epígnōsis, 'involving the complete appropriation of all truth and the unreserved acquiescence in God's will, is the goal and crown of the believer's course' (Lightfoot) … epignosis implies a more intimate and personal relationship than gnósis. It would be a useful word, seeing that gnósis had become associated with Gnosticism, then incipient in the Church.… Grace and peace are multiplied in and through this more intimate heart knowledge of Jesus Christ, in contrast to a mere barren gnósis. "
Epiginosko - 44 times in the NT -- Mt 7:16-note, Mt 7:20-note; Mt 11:27; 14:35; 17:12; Mk 2:8; 5:30; 6:33, 6:54; Lk 1:4, 22; 5:22; 7:37; 23:7; 24:16, 31; Acts 3:10; 4:13; 9:30; 12:14; 19:34; 22:24, 29; 23:28; 24:8, 11; 25:10; 27:39; 28:1; Ro 1:32-note; 1Co 13:12; 14:37; 16:18; 2Co 1:13, 14; 6:9; 13:5; Col 1:6-note; 1Ti 4:3; 2Pe 2:21-note
In the NAS epiginosko is translated -- acknowledge(1), ascertain(2), aware(2), find out(1), found out(2), fully known(1),know(7), know fully(1), known(2), knows(1), learned(3), perceiving(1), realized(1), recognize(5), recognized(6), recognizing(1),take note(1), taking note(1), understand(3), understood(1), well-known(1).
Matthew 7:16-note "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?
Matthew 7:20-note"So then, you will know them by their fruits.
Matthew 11:27 "All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
Matthew 14:35 And when the men of that place recognized Him, they sent word into all that surrounding district and brought to Him all who were sick;
Matthew 17:12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands."
Mark 2:8 Immediately Jesus, aware in His spirit that they were reasoning that way within themselves, said to them, "Why are you reasoning about these things in your hearts?
Marvin Vincent: The preposition epi gives the force of fully. He was not only immediately aware of their thought, but clearly and fully aware.
Mark 5:30 Immediately Jesus, perceiving in Himself that the power proceeding from Him had gone forth, turned around in the crowd and said, "Who touched My garments?"
Mark 6:33 The people saw them going, and many recognized them and ran there together on foot from all the cities, and got there ahead of them.
Mark 6:54 When they got out of the boat, immediately the people recognized Him,
Comment: to know fully by experience, to recognize Jesus, knowing full as nearly all did by now
Luke 1:4 so that you may know the exact truth about the things you have been taught.
Luke 1:22 But when he came out, he was unable to speak to them; and they realized that he had seen a vision in the temple; and he kept making signs to them, and remained mute.
Luke 5:22 But Jesus, aware of their reasonings, answered and said to them, "Why are you reasoning in your hearts?
Luke 7:37 And there was a woman in the city who was a sinner; and when she learned that He was reclining at the table in the Pharisee's house, she brought an alabaster vial of perfume,
Luke 23:7 And when he learned (having gained full knowledge) that He belonged to Herod's jurisdiction, he sent Him to Herod, who himself also was in Jerusalem at that time.
Luke 24:16 But their eyes were prevented from recognizing Him.
Luke 24:31 Then their eyes were opened and they recognized Him; and He vanished from their sight.
Acts 3:10 and they were taking note of him as being the one who used to sit at the Beautiful Gate of the temple to beg alms, and they were filled with wonder and amazement at what had happened to him.
Acts 4:13 Now as they observed the confidence of Peter and John and understood that they were uneducated and untrained men, they were amazed, and began to recognize them as having been with Jesus.
Acts 9:30 But when the brethren learned of it, they brought him down to Caesarea and sent him away to Tarsus.
Acts 12:14 When she recognized Peter's voice, because of her joy she did not open the gate, but ran in and announced that Peter was standing in front of the gate.
Acts 19:34 But when they recognized that he was a Jew, a single outcry arose from them all as they shouted for about two hours, "Great is Artemis of the Ephesians!"
Acts 22:24 the commander ordered him to be brought into the barracks, stating that he should be examined by scourging so that he might find out (might know) the reason why they were shouting against him that way.
Acts 22:29 Therefore those who were about to examine him immediately let go of him; and the commander also was afraid when he found out that he was a Roman, and because he had put him in chains.
Acts 23:28 "And wanting to ascertain the charge for which they were accusing him, I brought him down to their Council;
Acts 24:8 ordering his accusers to come before you. By examining him yourself concerning all these matters you will be able to ascertain the things of which we accuse him."...11 since you can take note of the fact that no more than twelve days ago I went up to Jerusalem to worship.
Acts 25:10 But Paul said, "I am standing before Caesar's tribunal, where I ought to be tried. I have done no wrong to the Jews, as you also very well know.
Acts 27:39 When day came, they could not recognize the land; but they did observe a bay with a beach, and they resolved to drive the ship onto it if they could.
Acts 28:1 When they had been brought safely through, then we found out that the island was called Malta.
Romans 1:32-note and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.
Comment: These individuals are like the false teachers in 2Peter 2:21 who in an intellectual sense fully knew that way of salvation was by grace through faith and yet they stubbornly refused to receive that truth as a gift. This is an amazing realization that there are people who have a full understanding of what God requires and STILL REFUSE Him. How hard can a heart be! We probably all know some of these folks and they literally break our hearts. There is nothing we can do except live the Christ life before them and pray that God's Spirit might one day penetrate their stony hearts.
1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known.
1 Corinthians 14:37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord's commandment.
1 Corinthians 16:18 For they have refreshed my spirit and yours. Therefore acknowledge such men.
MacArthur comments: Epiginōskō (acknowledge) signifies recognition of something for what it really is. In 14:37 Paul uses the term to tell the Corinthians to "recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord's commandment." Now he tells them to recognize faithful, godly workers for what they are.
2 Corinthians 1:13 For we write nothing else to you than what you read (Related verb = anaginosko) and understand (epiginosko), and I hope you will understand until the end; 14 just as you also partially did understand us, that we are your reason to be proud as you also are ours, in the day of our Lord Jesus.
Comment: There is clearly a play on words as both verbs have ginosko as their root. Anaginosko refers to what the Corinthians read in his letters and epiginosko to what they know through personal contact with him. The Corinthians are being assured that the two are in complete harmony.
2 Corinthians 6:9 as unknown yet well-known, as dying yet behold, we live; as punished yet not put to death,
2 Corinthians 13:5-note Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you-- unless indeed you fail the test?
Colossians 1:6-note which has come to you, just as in all the world also it is constantly bearing fruit and increasing, even as it has been doing in you also since the day you heard of it and understood the grace of God in truth;
1 Timothy 4:3 men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth.
2 Peter 2:21-note For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them.
Comment: Peter's use of epiginosko indicates these false teachers had no excuse but fully knew and understood the way of righteousness, the path through Jesus that alone leads to salvation but they refused to receive, believe and be saved by that full knowledge. Woe! They will be held that much more accountable at the judgment of unbelievers because they knew the right way.
Epiginosko - More than 90 uses in the non-apocryphal Septuagint (Lxx)- Gen. 27:23; 31:32; 37:32f; 38:15, 25f; 41:31; 42:7f; Deut. 1:17; 16:19; 21:17; 33:9; Jdg. 18:3; Ruth 2:10, 19; 3:14, 18; 1 Sam. 26:17; 2 Sam. 19:7; 1 Ki. 20:41; Ezr. 3:13; Neh. 6:12; 13:24; Esther 1:1; 3:5; 4:1; Job 2:12; 4:16; 6:17; 7:10; 24:13, 16f; 34:27; Ps. 103:16; 142:4; Prov. 14:8; 24:23; 27:23; 30:18; Is 61:9; 63:16; Jer. 4:22; 5:5; 24:5; Lam. 4:8; Ezek. 5:13; 6:7, 10, 14; 7:4, 9; 11:10, 12; 12:20; 13:14, 21; 14:8, 23; 15:7; 16:62; 17:21; 20:38, 42, 44, 48; 21:5; 22:22; 24:24, 27; 25:5, 7, 11, 14, 17; Dan. 2:3; 4:31; 6:10; 11:39; Hos. 2:20; 5:4; 7:9; 14:9; Joel 2:27; 3:17; Jon. 1:7; Hab. 3:2; Hag. 2:19; Zech. 2:11; 4:9; 6:10, 14; Malachi 2:4
John Piper notes that...
Haldane writes that...
Albert Barnes writing about their knowledge of God's ordinance says that this is substantiated by the secular writings...
Livy says of the age of Augustus, in some respects the brightest period of the Roman history, "Rome has increased by her virtues until now, when we can neither bear our vices nor their remedy." (Preface to his History.) Seneca, one of the purest moralists of Rome, who died A. D. 65, says of his own time, "All is full of criminality and vice; indeed much more of these is committed than can be remedied by force. A monstrous contest of abandoned wickedness is carried on. The lust of sin increases daily; and shame is daily more and more extinguished. Discarding respect for all that is good and sacred, lust rushes on wherever it will. Vice no longer hides itself. It stalks forth before all eyes. So public has abandoned wickedness become, and so openly does it flame up in the minds of all, that innocence is no longer seldom, but has wholly ceased to exist," Seneca de Ira, ii. 8. Further authorities of this kind could be easily given, but these will show that the apostle Paul did not speak at random when he charged them with these enormous crimes. (Romans 1)
Ordinance (1345) (dikaioma from dikaióo = to justify <> díkaios = just, righteous <> dike = right) refers to what God has declared to be right and here referring to His decree of retribution which has the force of law.
Dikaioma is used elsewhere in this Epistle with its other meaning of "righteousness" (see table below). Strictly speaking dikaioma is what God establishes as just.
Friberg's summary of dikaioma (see also table below) - (1) of God's requirements ordinance, regulation, commandment (Lk 1:6); (2) of fulfillment of a legal requirement righteous deed, act of justice, by Christ (Ro 5:18) by God (Rev 15:4), by saints (Rev 19:8); (3) as an act of justification equivalent to dikaiosis removal of guilt, acquittal (Ro 5:16)
In simple terms, as used here by Paul dikaioma is God's declaration about what is right and just.
Kenneth Wuest - Primarily that which is deemed right, so as to have the force of law; hence an ordinance. (Wuest's Word Studies from the Greek New Testament)
Paul's point in this verse is that these men with depraved minds were aware of God's regulations for right living and had an innate knowledge that the things they were doing were wrong and deserving of His retribution. Simply put they knew they were doing wrong and justly deserving of punishment but they simply don't care!
Dikaioma - 10 times in the NT translated as - act of righteousness, 1; justification, 1; ordinance, 1; regulations, 2; requirement, 1; requirements, 2; righteous acts, 2 (NASB)
Dikaioma - 137x in the non-apocryphal Septuagint - Ge 26:5; Ex 15:25f; 21:1, 9, 31; 24:3; Lev 25:18; Num 15:16; 27:11; 30:16; 31:21; 35:29; 36:13; Deut 4:1, 5f, 8, 14, 40, 45; 5:1, 31; 6:1f, 4, 17, 20, 24; 7:11f; 8:11; 10:13; 11:1; 17:19; 26:16f; 27:10; 28:45; 30:10, 16; 33:10; Ruth 4:7; 1 Sam 2:13; 8:3, 9, 11; 10:25; 27:11; 30:25; 2 Sam 19:28; 22:23; 1 Kgs 2:3; 3:28; 8:45, 59; 2 Kgs 17:8, 13, 19, 34, 37; 23:3; 2 Chr 6:35; 19:10; Job 34:27; Ps 18:22; 19:8; 50:16; 89:31; 105:45; 119:5, 8, 12, 16, 23f, 26f, 33, 48, 54, 56, 64, 68, 71, 80, 83, 93f, 112, 117f, 124, 135, 141, 145, 155, 171; 147:19; Prov 2:8; 8:20; 19:28; Jer 11:20; 18:19; Ezek 5:6f; 11:20; 18:9; 20:11, 13, 16, 18f, 21, 24f; 36:27; 43:11; 44:24; Hos 13:1; Mic 6:16; Mal 4:4;
Godet writes that because of God's workings men had ..
moral light...produced in them as well as religious light (see Ro 1:21). The words following indicate the contents of that sentence which God had taken care to engrave on their heart. What appeals to God's justice do we not find in the writings of Gentile historians and philosophers! What a description in their poets of the punishment inflicted on malefactors in Tartarus! (Godet, F: The Epistle of St Paul to the Romans)
Vine writes that dikaioma refers to...
what God has declared to be right (dikaioma), here referring to His decree of retribution. The relative pronoun "who," as in verse 25, suggests that what is now to be stated concerning the sinners mentioned is the cause of the evils just enumerated. The evils are the effect of the refusal to accept and follow what they know to be right. Man's conscience and experience tell him of the evil character and effects of impurity and cruelty, and their Divine condemnation. (Vine, W. Collected writings of W. E. Vine. Nashville: Thomas Nelson )
Dikaioma has 3 basic meanings in the NT:
(1) Dikaioma most often refers to a regulation relating to a just or right action, especially in reference to God's requirements, ordinances or regulations. In other words, dikaioma is used to refer to an act which is in accordance with what God requires. It is an appointment of God having the force of law.
And they [Zacharias and Elizabeth, parents of John the Baptist] were both righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and requirements (dikaioma) of the Lord." Luke 1.6
If therefore the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements (dikaioma) of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision? Romans 2:16
For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the requirement (dikaioma) of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:3-4
Now even the first covenant had regulations (dikaioma) of divine worship and the earthly sanctuary. Hebrews 9:1
since they (Jewish gifts and sacrifices called for under the Old Covenant) relate only to food and drink and various washings, regulations (dikaioma) for the body imposed until a time of reformation.
(2) Dikaioma can refer to the fulfillment of a legal requirement, a righteous deed or an act of justice, by Christ (Ro 5.18), by God (Rev 15.4) or by saints (Rev 19.8).
So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness (dikaioma - here a reference to the Death of Christ, an act accomplished and consistent with God's character) there resulted justification of life to all men." Romans 5:18 Here the a righteous act is that of our Lord Jesus Christ in satisfying the demands of the law which mankind broke.
"Who will not fear, O Lord, and glorify Thy name? For Thou alone art holy; For ALL THE NATIONS WILL COME AND WORSHIP BEFORE THEE, For Thy righteous acts have been revealed." Rev 15.4
And it was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.
(3) Dikaioma is used once to signify the clearing of someone of a violation as an act of justification. In this use it equates with the removal of guilt or granting of an acquittal.
And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment arose from one transgression resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in justification (dikaioma = here refers to a "declaration of righteousness"). Romans 5.16
THAT THOSE WHO PRACTICE SUCH THINGS: hoti oi ta toiauta prassontes (PAPMPN):
Practice...practice - The first verb is prasso and the second verb is poieo. See discussion of these verbs under prasso below.
Practice (4238) (prasso) means to practice but is distinguished from poieo which means "to do", because prasso expresses a course of conduct (even the present tense of poieo expresses a series of repeated acts -- see note by Vine below).
The predominant idea conveyed by prasso in its NT uses is to bring about or accomplish an objective through some activity (Ro 1:32, 2:3, Ac 5:35, 26:20, 2Co 5:10, etc). In a few NT uses prasso means to engage in activity or behave in a certain way (Acts 3:17, 17:7).
Prasso has an rare meaning of to collect what is due in Lk 3:13, 19:23.
Vine adds that prasso...
signifies to practise, though this is not always to be pressed. The Apostle John, in his Epistles, uses the continuous tenses (present tense ) of poieō, to indicate a practice, the habit of doing something, e.g., 1Jn 3:4 (cp poieo in 1 Jn 3:8, 9 where the sense of practising is the meaning). John uses prasso twice in the Gospel, Jn 3:20 and Jn 5:29. The Apostle Paul uses prasso in the sense of practising, and the R.V. so renders the word in Ro 1:32; 2:2...
Generally speaking, in Paul's Epistles poieō denotes an action complete in itself, while prassō denotes a habit. The difference is seen in Ro 1:32.
Again, poieō stresses the accomplishment, e.g., "perform," in Ro 4:21; prassō stresses the process leading to the accomplishment, e.g., "doer," in Ro 2:25.
In Ro 2:3 he who does, poieō, the things mentioned, is warned against judging those who practise them, prassō.
The distinction in John 3:20, 21 is noticeable: "Every one that does (prassō, practises) ill … he that does (poieō) the truth," While we cannot draw the regular distinction, that prassō speaks of doing evil things, and poieō of doing good things, yet very often "where the words assume an ethical tinge, there is a tendency to use the verbs with this distinction" (Trench, Syn., § xcvi). (Vine, W E: Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words. 1996. Nelson)
Prasso in Romans 1:32 is in the present tense which emphasizes that this is the habitual practice of these individuals! The old adage "practice makes perfect" takes on an ironic twist in Ro 1:32. Their practice makes them perfectly fit for God's righteous judgment!
Friberg writes that prasso has the following nuances...
(1) transitively (Ed: In grammar, a transitive verb is one which is or may be followed by an object; a verb expressing an action which passes from the agent to an object);
(a) of pressing through on an action carry out, do, accomplish (Ac 26.20);
(b) predominately with a negative evaluation commit, do (Ac 5.35);
(c) as denoting intense preoccupation with something busy oneself with, practice (Ac 19.19); in regard to law practice, observe (RO 2.25); in regard to taxes, interest, toll duties collect, demand, exact (Lk 19.23);
(2) intransitively, (Ed: In grammar, an intransitive verb is one which expresses an action or state that is limited to the agent, or in other words, an action that does not pass over to, or operate upon an object) with a qualifying adverb or phrase;
(a) to qualify how someone is acting do (Ac 3.17; perhaps 15.29);
(b) to denote one's condition be, be situated, be faring (Ep 6.21; perhaps Ac 15.29) (Friberg, T., Friberg, B., & Miller, N. F. Analytical Lexicon of the Greek New Testament. Baker Academic)
Thayer has this entry for prasso (abbreviated) --
1. "to exercise, practise, be busy with, carry on": Acts 19:19; to mind one's own affairs, 1Th 4:11; used of performing the duties of an office, 1Co 9:17. "to undertake to do," Acts 19:36.
2. "to accomplish, to perform": has been accomplished, "has taken place," Acts 26:26; 2Cor 5:10; Ro 9:11, Acts 26:20; add, Romans 7:15,19; Philippians 4:9; to do, i.e. keep the law, Ro 2:25; of unworthy acts, "to commit, perpetrate" is more common in reference to bad conduct; Acts 26:9; 2Co 12:21; "this (criminal) deed," 1Co 5:2, Lk 22:23; Ac 3:17; 5:35; Ro 7:19; such nameless iniquities, Ro 1:32; Ro 2:1-3; Galatians 5:21; Jn 3:20; 5:29;, Lk 23:15; Ac 25:11,25; 26:31; Ro 7:19; 13:4; Lk 23:41; to bring evil upon one, Acts 16:28.
3. "to manage public affairs, transact public business" (Xenophon, Demosthenes, Plutarch); from this use has come a sense met with from Pindar, Aeschylus, Herodotus down, viz. "to exact" tribute, revenue, debts: Luke 3:13 (here R.V. "extort"); το αργυριον, Luke 19:23 (so agere in Latin, cf. the commentators on Suetonius, Vesp. 1; (cf. Winer's Grammar, sec. 42, 1 a.)).
4. intransitive, "to act": contrary to a thing, Acts 17:7.
5. from Aeschylus and Herodotus down reflexively, how I do, the state of my affairs, Ephesians 6:21; Acts 15:29
There are 39 uses of prasso in the NT - Lk 3:13; 19:23; 22:23; 23:15, 41; Jn 3:20; 5:29; Acts 3:17; 5:35; 15:29; 16:28; 17:7; 19:19, 36; 25:11, 25; 26:9, 20, 26, 31; Ro 1:32; Ro 2:1-note, Ro 2:2-note, Ro 2:3-notet, Ro 2:25-note; Ro 7:15-note, Ro 7:19-note; Ro 9:11-note; Ro 13:4-note; 1Co 5:2; 9:17; 2Co 5:10; 12:21; Gal 5:21-note; Ep 6:21-note; Php 4:9-note; 1Th 4:11-note
There are 19 uses of prasso in the Septuagint - Ge 31:28; Jos. 1:7; Job 5:27; 7:20; 24:20; 27:6; 34:21; 35:6; 36:21, 23; Pr. 10:23; 13:10, 16; 14:17; 21:7; 25:28; 26:19; 30:20; Isa. 57:10; Da 6:3; 11:20
ARE WORTHY OF DEATH: axioi thanatou eisin (3PPAI):
Regarding the idea of worthy, Middletown Bible suggests...
Worthy (514) (axios [see word study]) means weighing as much as, of like value, worth as much. It means having the weight of another thing and so being of like value or worth as much. In other words axios has the root meaning of balancing the scales—what is on one side of the scale should be equal in weight to what is on the other side. In the present context these depraved men and women are fully aware of the fact that when their unrighteous deeds are weighed in the balance, they warrant only one thing...death, not simply the natural termination of life, but the execution of the divine penalty upon sin.
Death (2288) (thanatos from thnesko = to die) refers to physical or spiritual death. In either event thanatos in the NT is treated not as a natural process but always as a destroying power related to sin and its consequences.
In a parallel passage Paul repeats this thought asking...
Therefore what benefit were you then deriving from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the outcome of those things is death (Ro 6:21-note)
Godet comments that
Death...here denotes death as God only can inflict it, the pains of Hades, which the Gentiles also recognized, and which Paul, designating things from his own point of view, calls death. (ibid)
Hodge explains that death...
"here, as is frequently the case, means punishment, in the general meaning of that word. It expresses the penalty of the law and includes all evil inflicted for the satisfaction of justice. Paul therefore teaches that the heathen knew they deserved punishment for their crimes, or in other words, that they were justly exposed to God's wrath, which was revealed against all human ungodliness and unrighteousness. In verse 15 of the following chapter (see exposition of Romans 2:15) Paul explains the source of this knowledge. It was a knowledge written in their hearts, as part of their nature, and it was implied in their being moral agents. As Paul had already shown that the godlessness of the heathen had no excuse, since they knew about the true God, so here he shows that their immorality had no excuse, since they did not sin in ignorance of the nature or consequences of their sin. This passage also shows that God's judicial giving up of mankind does not destroy man's freedom of choice or his responsibility. Men give themselves over to do evil, and yet know that they deserve death for what they do. The stream which carries them away is not outside but within them. It is their own corrupt nature. It is themselves." (Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans -online)
Those who either practice or approve of these things are worthy of death; they are the worth objects of the wrath of God. Not simply the natural termination of life, but the execution of the divine penalty upon sin. This statement is explanatory of "the ordinance of God." That ordinance is next stated. It is that those who do such deeds are worthy of death. The heathen moralists admitted this. Yet in spite of this knowledge they not only continued in their vile sins, but took pleasure in them. No deeper degree of depravity can be found than when men call evil good, and cherish it. The conclusion, from these facts, is that all such guilty persons are under condemnation.
THEY NOT ONLY DO THE SAME: ou monon auta poiousin (3PPAI):
Do (4160) (poieo) expresses action which is continued and not yet completed as emphasized by the present tense.
The same (846) (monon) means only or alone and with the negative (ou) as in this case means "not only".
What a description of this world of sinners, this race alienated from the life of God, —at enmity with Him, and at strife with one another! But all in a hellish unity of evil!
Romans 1 gives ample proof that the heathen are lost. Dan Crawford, British missionary to Africa, said:
There is a desperate need for us to carry the Gospel to all men, for this is the only way they can be saved.
BUT ALSO GIVE HEARTY APPROVAL TO THOSE WHO PRACTICE THEM: alla kai suneudokousin (3PPAI) tois prassousin (PAPMPD): (Psalms 50:18; Hosea 7:3; Mark 14:10,11)
But - Always pause and ponder (interrogate) this term of contrast.
Give hearty approval (4909) (suneudokeo from sun = together with + eu = good + dokéo = think) literally means to "think well with", and so to consent or to give hearty approval to something (cf Lk 11:48). It means to join in approval, agree with, approve of, consent to or sympathize with.
Suneudokeo is used 6 times in the NT and is translated -- approve, 1; approving, 1; consents, 2; give hearty approval, 1; hearty agreement, 1 (NAS) as shown in the following verses:
The idea is that these men and women continually (present tense) express a hearty approval of those who continually (present tense) practice these nefarious deeds and even take pleasure with them! Such is the mind given over to depravity & self. Not only is the voice of a reasonable conscience stifled, but the mind has become absolutely hardened & callous regarding the moral degradation and ruin of others, and so naturally takes "wicked" pleasure in their sinfulness.
So their sins are not sins of ignorance, but of blatant rebellion. Where does all this violence, immorality, cruelty and degradation come from? Men have abandoned the true knowledge of God, and the state of society is a reflection of God's judgment upon them for this In summary in this section we are confronted with three terrible realities: (1) Men have complete inner knowledge from God that their ways deserve and must have Divine condemnation and judgment; (2) they persist in their practices despite the clear witness of their conscience and (3) they are in a fellowship of evil with other evil-doers! Paul has painted a picture of man in desperate, dire straits morally speaking and only the gospel of Jesus Christ can set men free from the ensnaring bonds of such evil.
The premier example of evil men giving hearty approval is found in the betrayal of Jesus where we read that...
The psalmist has a similar accusation writing that...
Godet has an interesting comment writing that...
John Piper refers to this section as
Pastor Ray Stedman - Knowing that harm is coming from their wickedness, nevertheless they attempt to spread it more fully. They invade the field of education; they dominate the media; they seek legal status for their wickedness and defy all attempts at control. As you can well recognize, this is what is going on today. (Romans 1:24-32 The Deepening Darkness)
Newell - What a description of this world of sinners, this race alienated from the life of God, at enmity with Him, and at strife with one another! But all in a hellish unity of evil! (Romans 1)
Barclay - Paul says one last thing about these people who have banished God from life. It usually happens that, even if a man is a sinner, he knows it, and, even if he allows something in himself, he knows that it is to be condemned in others. But in those days men had reached such a level that they sinned themselves and encouraged others to do so. George Bernard Shaw once said (Ed: albeit still an aberration of truth with "little g" gods!), "No nation has ever survived the loss of its gods." Here Paul has given us a terrible picture of what happens when men deliberately banish God from the reckoning, and, in due time, Rome perished. Disaster and degeneracy went hand in hand. (Romans 1 - William Barclay's Daily Study Bible - Commentaries)
Haldane explains that their giving "hearty approval"...
In Romans chapter 1 Paul in fact has given us a terrible picture of what happens when men deliberately banish the only true and living God from their reckoning. In due time, Rome perished. Disaster and degeneracy went hand in hand as they always, inevitably do when men or women place God far from their minds and replace Him with so-called "gods" of their own making.
John MacArthur presents an interesting illustration of man apart from God writing that...
Pastor Ray Pritchard (see his entire sermon entitled When God Gives Up) graphically and poignantly summarizes this section of Paul's introductory statements writing that...
On the evening news, a commentator's brief description of Mardi Gras in New Orleans summed up the spirit of our age. Quoting one young person he said:
Hearty approval even though they know God's ordinances!
Hughes writes that...
What a telling application this has on our media-captivated society. Millions sit in their living rooms watching debauchery, violence, deceit and many other vices—and applaud what they see! It makes little difference whether the vices are real or portrayed, the effect is much the same—an increasingly depraved mind on the part of the viewer. Approving another's sin or encouraging another's sin is a sign that life has reached its lowest dimension.
We Christians are not exempt from this. Satan knows that if he can get us to laugh at things we believe we would never do, our defenses will fall. Maybe someday our unwitting approval will give way to action. We need to be careful what we watch and applaud
As Thomas Aquinas pointed out, according to Psalm 8 man is made a little lower than the angels. This suggests that man is in a position somewhere between the angels above and the beasts below. Angels are spirits without bodies. (Sometimes they take on bodies, but they are spirit beings.) Animals are bodies without spirits. Man is in between because he is body and spirit. This puts man in a mediating position. It has always been man's prerogative to move upward toward the spiritual or downward toward the animal, and we become like that upon which we focus. This is why we cannot sin "a little bit." All sin moves us downhill individually, nationally, and culturally. As our society has moved downward toward the beast, no one seems able to say, "This far and no further." No one can put a limit on sensuality. Our culture has been unable to draw the line on pornography. Such are the depths and dimensions of depravity.
Why does God give a civilization over to this kind of thing? He does it because when darkness prevails, and despair and violence are widespread, men and women are most ready to come to the light. He gives mankind up so that in their despair they might give themselves to his grace. Do you remember Isaiah's prediction?
In the first century mankind was sunk in the darkness of despair. Idolatry had penetrated the whole world. Men had turned from the true God, whom they could have known. In that hour, in the darkness of the night, over the skies of Bethlehem the angels broke through, and a great light of hope shone forth. From that hope all light streams. The angels' message was the coming of the Lord Jesus, the availability of the gift of "righteousness from God". Against the growing darkness of our own time we need to make this message as clear as we possibly can—by our testimony, by our lives, by the joy and peace of Heaven in our hearts. God has found a way to break through human weakness, arrogance, despair, and sinfulness to give us peace, joy and gladness. Just as Jesus was born in Bethlehem so long ago, so he can be born in any person's heart now. This is the good news of the gospel. In this decaying world in which we live, we can see again the glory of this truth as it delivers people from their sins.
Christ came in the darkest night, and he can meet us even in the midnight of our souls.
Ray Stedman writes that...


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I feel like there is a small window for sexy, it's appropriate to do it at 18 but too immature by the time you are 24. Dont you think so?
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What do you mean?
Dressing sexy?
Being sexy?
Behaving in a sexy manner?
If any of these apply, being 18 is a bit young if you ask me...
From someone's 20's to their 50's they can be very sexy... It all depends on the person, really...
{there are different degrees of sexiness - the one I'm talking about is a classy - no one can see it but my boyfriend - type of thing and it's always in fashion xD}20|20|1
Dressing I meant
Dressing... Hmmm... well... sexy isn't as same as slutty. You can dress sexy underneath a classy outfit...
So there's no age limit there either.
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I Claudius was maybe the best miniseries ever. Now, there's Rome, and
it's even better.
I agree with another reviewer, that quibbles about historical inaccuracies, such as accents or how old so-and-so should be, are silly pedantry. I've been a Roman history buff ever since my own high school triumvirate of Caesar, Cicero and Virgil, and I say that this historical fiction is both exciting AND quite accurate with the important stuff.
So far, every player has been terrific, in particular Ciarán Hinds as Caesar and Max Pirkis as Octavian. Julius Caesar was perhaps the most complex "great" figure in history. Was he a great populist, trying to champion the people against the Optimates, or was he an ambitious demagogue, who was using the Roman mobs to attain the imperium? Hinds depicts this complexity perfectly, while projecting a steely will that is shared by Caesar's emerging protégé, Octavian. Thanks to Max Pirkis's brilliant portrayal, we can already see the no-nonsense pragmatism, ruthlessness and brilliance that will propel this boy into becoming the greatest despot in history.
And what about that dissolute Mark Anthony? We can already see Actium in his face. And with Atia, I think Livia (as depicted in I Claudius) and Messalina have met their match.
And midst the struggle for mastery of Rome, we see the struggle of more common folk just to make a living. Rome makes the parallel stories of the Optimates and Centurian, now Prefect, Vorenus and Legionnaire Pullo a perfect vehicle for comparing the travails of different classes their love lives, social lives, how they treated the servants, how they practiced their faiths, how they fought. Seen from these different perspectives (which we did not get with I Claudius), we get a three-dimensional view and, for me, the closest to feeling like one is actually there of any historical fiction ever produced.
And look at the production values. Is it any wonder, when we see who's behind the camera Michael Apted and John Milius that we have an immaculately crafted work?
By their commitment to quality of production and integrity of story, HBO and BBC are demonstrating what television can be. This is a wonderful, wonderful series. Anyone with a love of history, drama and spectacle should be devouring it with delight.
HBO's "Rome" is perhaps one of the best historical TV shows there ever
was and one of the best HBO has ever produced.
Set during the first century B.C., this TV show tells the tale of two Romans serving in the army, Lucius Vorenus and Titus Pollo. Vorenus in a strict, humorless and hard-working centurion, expecting his troops to obey him and is a loyal citizen of Rome. Pollo is muscular, carefree, party-loving, and womanizing, yet he is also a faithful, trustworthy friend, loyal companion, and overall lovable character. These two military men serve in Julius Caesar's army and live during a time of turmoil in Rome.
Originally planned as a TV miniseries, "Rome" has become an actual TV show. This TV show is mostly fictional, but it incorporates historical characters like Caesar, Pompey, Cato, Mark Anthony, and Atia, the most of Octavian, soon to become Rome's first emperor, Augustus. It is a time when the Roman Republic is corrupt, and high-ranking Romans like Julius Caesar and Pompey fight for power. The historical events in Rome are told thru the eyes of Vorenus and Pollo.
The script is intelligent and realistic, with some profanity, violence, and decadence. Unlike most portrayals of Rome, which tend to be clean and sanitize things, this is a graphic portrayal of Ancient Rome, complete with drunkards, brawlers, womanizers, prostitutes, adulterers, fornication, and loads of sexual acts. This TV series do not attempt to hide the dirty aspects of the Roman Empire. Rather, it is a honest depiction of the Empire, portraying its decadence and wickedness.
As for the production, one word - great! The sets are huge and realistic, with the viewer feeling as if he/she is in the middle of the scene. The costumes, too, are realistic and accurate. The sets, props, and costumes, etc. show signs of research. The actors and actresses did a great job, too, portraying their characters realistically.
Overall, this is a great series. I will be expecting more seasons of this.
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And if the premiere episode is any indication, you WILL want to. Leave
it to HBO, to replace the dearly departed SIX FEET UNDER with a worthy
substitute already. And considering how outstanding that series was,
that's saying something for ROME, that it may be able to measure up to
how far the bar has been raised for dramatic series in a premium cable
Ten years in the planning and production, as lavish, sprawling, deep, dark and deviously, deliciously decadent as anything of its like, ROME combines historical figures with equally compelling fictional side characters, many of whom show us what it was like through their eyes, to bear witness to the heady rise and staggeringly shocking fall of one of the greatest empires in history.
For those who like their summaries simple, you only need to know that the core of the doings in ROME is comprised of three major stories: the contentious relationship between Roman movers and shakers Magnus Pompey (Kenneth Cranham) and Gaius Julius Caesar (Ciaran Hinds), which grows even more fractious when Pompey's wife Julia, also Caesar's daughter, dies in childbirth. Then there's Roman centurions Lucius Vorenus (Kevin McKidd) and Titus Pullo (Ray Stevenson), two complex men struggling to do their duty and buck their fates as pawns in the machinations of the two leaders to which each is separately loyal, while testing the bond of their own tentative friendship, as much as the complications within their lives will allow.
And, oh yes, what would any man be without the support of a good woman behind him...hopefully not with a dagger in her hand? In this case the women would be Atia (Polly Walker), an ambitious socialite and political strategist who makes Lady Macbeth look like a rank amateur, and Servilia (Lindsay Duncan), whose sweet and civilized demeanor more than likely hides the cunning and ruthlessness of a cobra. Oh, and does it bode well that Caesar is her secret lover, and that his confidant and friend, Cassius Brutus is also Servilia's son?
Webs are being woven and plots are being planned even in the first few moments, and the mostly British cast is well up to the task (the series is produced in conjunction with the BBC). It's also a great sign that not all the heavy hitters are among the cast of characters, but also behind-the-scenes as well, (Michael Apted and John Milius are vital parts of the creative team, and directorial chores are being handled by everyone from Allen Coulter (THE SOPRANOS) to Alan Poul (SIX FEET UNDER).) Plus the sets which dominate the bulk of the world-renowned Cinecitta Studios in Rome itself have a startlingly authentic feel. Every penny of the $100 million-plus budget is apparent on screen and was well worth spending.
Speaking of which, my TiVo is already set for the next episodes. Looks like Sundays will be well worth spending here, too.
Even though there has been only one episode so far, I have to say that "Rome" looks to be the best production of ancient Rome I have seen yet. Yes, Gladiator was a cool movie, but it lacked was historical accuracy. "Rome" has brought together what no one though possible: historical accuracy and good production. Octavian is an snide little wimp, but with political brilliance. Marc Antony is an arrogant and drunken man who has a love for brutality. Caesar is cunning and insightful. It's all there! The costuming is great, the dialog is crisp, the character interaction spot on and the plot flows smoothly. What more could you want!? This series is far and above that ABC knock-off "Empire", which couldn't even get Roman troops in proper costume. Every penny of this record-budget ($12 million for 12 episodes I think) series was well spent.
Great. Loving classical literature and history, and the sometimes ridiculous film genre known as Sword and Sandal, I was thrilled by the first episode - I really feel like I'm getting something very like the grit and feel of the place and the politics for the first time. I've read some stupid comments here that somehow the series is less than authentic because these Romans speak English - and most absurd - that the actors are all too old because the average male died in his 40's. That figure - If true - is skewed tremendously by the fact that many died of childhood maladies that are easily treated today. Many men lived in to their 70's and 80's, especially in the aristocracy. Pompey - one of the oldest in the series - died at something like 58, and his death was anything but natural. Look, some suspension of disbelief is required every time you turn the TV on. I think they've done a great job with this series and I look forward to future episodes.
Having watched the first three episodes, I am anxiously looking forward
to seeing the rest of the episodes. All of the intrigue that was Rome
is presented well, considering that no one involved lived during that
time that could give accurate details on Roman life. For that matter,
all historical presentations that are over a hundred years old are
filled in with speculation and assumption and for that no one can
discredit the attempts at accuracy.
For all of the naysayers, listen well. You complain that the show is full of pointelss dialogue. Rome was one of the first political empires to exist. When you have a Senate, it becomes very political. As for the accuracies to design, as I said, we can only speculate in accordance to available artifacts, as to how the place really looked. The designs do look as I picture in my own mind. Another complaint that I saw was about the sex with one such comment relating Rome to "Skinimax". The fact is this is set prior to Christian corruption, shunning the act of sex. So yes, there was a lot of it.
After seeing the first episode, the show promises to be an excellent
production showing the civilization and intrigue of the Rome of Julius
Caesar. We can't place our own moral code on these characters. They had
their own, and are shown living it. When your life depended upon
position and knowledge, you did everything you could to put yourself in
the best position possible. In an "about the show" program that I saw
about "Rome", the actress who plays Atia says that she doesn't feel her
character is evil. The character is doing what she has to in order to
keep her position and stay alive in that time. Life was hard, and so
one didn't have the luxury of being soft.
To those who complain about the accents, so what? Why would someone from ancient Rome speak with an Italian accent? Language and dialect evolve over time. Who knows what an ancient Roman accent sounded like? They aren't Italians speaking in English, they are Romans speaking their own Latin dialect. Latin is not Italian. Just ask my old High School Latin teacher. We just happen to have the movie magic version of a Universal Translator, so we can understand them.
The sets are perfect, showing a bustling city, full of activity. To those who complain about them, they have to remember that the ruins of ancient Rome that we see today have been scoured clean by the progression of time. The filmmakers felt that ancient Rome would have been more like Bombay, India, and I tend to agree with them.
The series shows life as it was in those days. I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops further.
Just watched the third episode of ROME and I love it!! I was surprised
to read some of the negative reviews on this forum.
Political intrigue, great acting, sex, violence (the hand to hand type not the I'll shoot ya from a mile away kind), booze, gambling, prostitution, HOT HOT women, macho guys, murder, what's there not to like?!
Not to go into all the details, but getting to know the characters is crucial. And after three episodes, We know the players. The actors are real good, thanks to the producers to go and get real actors not some pretty boy talentless losers. I read that the actors were mostly Brits and that is key. Most American Actors wouldn't be able to pull off the roles. Some of the acting is flawed but hey, it's a TV show and a darn good one. Being a history buff and after watching Collin Farrell and Angelina Jolie embarrass themselves in Alexander and Brad Pitt in Troy, Rome is quite a refreshing period piece.
Liking a TV show has a lot to do with connecting with the characters. And there are a lot of them, about 12 main characters.1st of all Polly Walker as Atia is incredible!! This show was made for her. She's so hot and devious, and cunning, and okay hot, and such a strong personality, absolutely radiant woman, Wow.Then there's Ray Stevenson as Titus, he's like a Bullet Tooth Tony from Snatch. Macho, whoring, gambler type, a mans' man tough guy. Kevin McKidd is real good as a complex quiet type. Really good cast of fine actors. Indira Varma (plays Niobe)- SIZZLING HOT and she can act a little too. Not to mention Ciaran Hinds, he plays Caesar, absolutely believable, thank goodness. Kenneth Cranham (Pompey)-Fine, the actor that plays Cato (Karl Johnson)is also good.
The set is legit. I feel like we're in Rome and not some Hollywood Movie set. I'm not sure if they're are using 3D MAx (or some other computer engineered set) but it works.
Then there's the story line. A lot of evil doings going on and political maneuvering, love affairs of course, surely Rome was like that 2000 years ago! Obviously they have their history consultants, they are using the names of real people of Rome who lived 50 BC or there abouts and of course most is fictionalized to entertain us, so the plots are thick.
Anyway, thumbs up from me, THIS IS A DON'T MISS SHOW.
I have watched both of the first two episodes and I am very impressed,
and look forward to seeing all 12. So far this is the best mini series
that I have seen in years. If the next ten episodes are as good as
these two, then I will rate this series right up there with Roots,
Centennial, and Lonesome Dove. I guess that dates me somewhat, doesn't
I agree with all of the other many positive comments on this series. There are still people out there who enjoy intelligent programing, instead of all these mindless sitcoms and reality shows. I too am a history buff, and enjoy the authenticity that this series projects to the viewer, as opposed to just more Hollywood glitter like that abominable "ALEXANDER".
This series is off to a stellar start! I was VERY impressed by the first episode. True, a great many characters were introduced, but what do you expect? You have to get the pieces onto the board before the game can begin. I'm really looking forward to where it goes. I'm a history buff with a fascination for Greek/Roman/Byzantine history. "Alexander" was dreadful. I couldn't even watch the first episode of "Empire" without turning it off. But this... this looks good. Now let's get a movie based on Turteltaub's fine book "Justinian". All in all fantastic. I hear that it's only a mini-series slated for twelve episodes. That's a pity. I'd like to see a regular series set in this world. Excellent all around to everyone involved!
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Remote collector is feeding the SW server with hardware information, but software installed at remote site is not being fed to the main install. I can VPN into the remote site, turn off collector mode and see the software inventory at that remote site. I turn remote collector mode back on, it negotiates and communicates with the SW server, feeding hardware information back to the server, but the software inventory is never sent.
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The software listings you see whn you disable the Remote Collector and view the old site directly could be from old records. In Remote Collector mode Spiceworks does not transport historic data, only that data collected in the current scans.
It sounds a little like WMI has failed on the remore site and is no longer capturing live/current software data. Has something changed recently in the remote site that can effect the opperation on WMI? Has there been a software change on the remote site you can check for to ensure that the local (remote) software record is accurate and current?
Failing that Spiceworks support may be able to glean from the logs what is happening if you send your logs in with a detailed description as described here: How Do I Send Spiceworks My Log Files?
Nov 8, 2010 at 11:22 UTC
Actually, I believe it's fixed now. I hope! ;)
I read another thread where it was mentioned that the remote collector couldn't have any inventory scans in its database when it was connected with the main. So, after getting the initial scan at the remote site to make sure WMI is working throughout, I had to delete the scan inventory, then reconnect the remote collector. Once that was done, everything popped into the main as expected.
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