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- Archive 1 - (Through April 2006) POV "Flamewar" discussion, Criticisms, Bizarre/Unconventional Syntax, the MUMPS Database, "Higher Level" layer, Older Comments
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- 1 Mumps in the modern world
- 2 Predates BASIC? Not that old
- 3 Removed merge suggestion
- 4 Readded merge suggestion
- 5 Vote to remove 'Merge' suggestion, and delete 'MUMPS (Criticism)' article
- 6 Replaced MUMPS (Criticism) page with redirect to Opinion section
- 7 Many external links in article.
- 8 MUMPS is killing US veterans and this article is aiding and abetting!!
- 9 removal of contentious POV text
- 10 Moved 'Major Users' to own page, other edits
- 11 Apparently undiscussed removal
- 12 Cause following effect?
- 13 PDP-8 Version?
- 14 Sample code
- 15 Here is a better article on MUMPS
- 16 $PIECE Example in "Summary of key language features" restructured
- 17 External links modified
Mumps in the modern world[edit]
I have experience with a mumps database and mumps programmers. I think it is funny that a article about mumps can have a "pros" paragraph it is clearly more effective end efficient to just start over and use a relational database and put your mumps database in a museum. You wil get a more logical and understanable database. You can use a real modern structured or objectorientated programming language so you get a lot better code.
- Not everyone with experience in both relational databases and with MUMPS agrees with you. (Could I hazard a guess that you learned about relational technology in school, and then unwillingly landed in a situation where you had to deal with an existing MUMPS-based system?) Dpbsmith (talk) 15:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- you guessed right ;-) but I like to add that the state of this database is terrible by not enforcing constraints. Automatic processing of the data (for reporting) is extremely difficult. I guess this problem is a problem of the design of the database management system because I never saw a relational database that was this bad. Also the design process is not as disciplined as in the relational world and documenting the database is also more difficult. I also see experienced mumps programmers having real problems in delivering what was promised.
- I would also like to point out. I've been a DB admin and App developer (C++) for about 8 years now. I find that the biggist problem with database applications is not the technology used but the use of those technologies. And from my experience M[UMPS] is no different in this regard. DragonLips 21:18, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- I suggest the section "Major users of MUMPS applications" have a link to EPIC Systems included. For the past several years, this company has used MUMPS/Cache as technology to support their very popular EMR (electronic medical record). More US people might already be "recorded" using their EMR than those DoD/VA people recorded with VistA.
- I'd like to point out, that since all the "criticism" paragraphs are gone, there were left only pros of the language. Even the syntax is claimed to be readable "by expert developers" (I don't know what's that supposed to mean). Since there are lots of solutions superseding MUMPS right now, I highly recommend putting a section which will make it clear that's its significance is purely historical (and applications are only maintained as legacy). I can't see any company creating anything new in MUMPS; it might not be clear to the reader, as all the comments in the article are extremely positive; it might actually seem a bit biased.Bananu7 (talk) 08:02, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Predates BASIC? Not that old[edit]
"Because it predates C, BASIC and most other popular languages in current usage, it has very different syntax and terminology." Actually, BASIC came out in the early '60s while the article says MUMPS came out in the late '60s, so BASIC predates MUMPS, not vice versa. It's certainly possible that BASIC wasn't very widely known yet when MUMPS was developed, but that's not the same thing. -- CWesling 03:42, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Removed merge suggestion[edit]
Someone tagged this to be merged elsewhere. Cute. No discussion and suggested the wrong direction. Rolled back. --Connel MacKenzie - wikt 20:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Did I tag it the wrong direction? OK, maybe I did, couldn't you have fixed that instead? --Regebro 20:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Readded merge suggestion[edit]
Comment unecassary, really. The MUMPS (criticism) is a POV hate-article with no counter, and bad arguments. The good arguments (if any) should be merged into this article. --Regebro 20:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Vote to remove 'Merge' suggestion, and delete 'MUMPS (Criticism)' article[edit]
Although it's hard to find in the disorganized 'Talk' page, you can see that the 'MUMPS (Criticism)' section started out being part of the article. It started somewhat small (each heading was just a bullet point) and then grew into a giant section as people raised various objections. Then it was forked off into its own page. Then the main MUMPS article was revised and a paragraph representing all the major criticisms from the page was added to the main page in the 'Opinion' section.
I don't know how to delete the 'MUMPS (Criticism)' page, but you can see what became of the content on it:
Old Page (with full criticism) Page after merge
I personally don't think the main article needs more expanded criticism. Most people using MUMPS have no choice but to continue using it, and most people starting new database applications don't need a wikipedia article to help them rule it out. Saintly 02:48, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that any merging needed has already been accomplished, and that MUMPS (criticism) serves no purpose now and should be deleted. I think here on Wikipedia that is accomplished with {{AfD}} or {{prod}}? --Connel MacKenzie - wikt 03:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Asking on IRC, I was told to blank it and replace it with a redirect (such as #REDIRECT [[MUMPS#Opinion]]) with an edit summary comment pointing here. --Connel MacKenzie - wikt 03:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Replaced MUMPS (Criticism) page with redirect to Opinion section[edit]
- Removed merge link
- Replaced criticism page with a redirect
- The 'overview' was a bit convoluted in places, I tried to separate some dense topics and provide examples.
- Removed some vague language (MUMPS was based on 'advanced structures'. -- perhaps someone can say what these were or why they're so advanced. Do they use Ninjas?) and how it is 'quite efficient' in lots of areas (again, does it use Ninjas? Perhaps a link to an efficiency study of MUMPS vs. Oracle, or someone explaining why having dense, abbreviated source code is important today?)
- Linkified some stuff (Interpreted, compiled, etc..)
- Banished terrible code example 'hellohtml()' to its own section called 'sample program'. Perhaps someone can come up with a better sample program? The functions in that program all print stuff directly rather than returning it (limiting their usefulness and demonstrating that you often CAN'T do things you'd like in MUMPS thanks to string-length limitations). Anyway, 'Hello World' is just where you show off the simplest (readable) program possible, like on the article pages for other languages.
Saintly 21:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Many external links in article.[edit]
I've removed some of the external links. Others remain as references. I'm leaving those in hopes some eone familiar with this page can look at them and move them to the reference section where appropriate. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 22:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
MUMPS is killing US veterans and this article is aiding and abetting!![edit]
Goddamnit, this article is written POV, probably by some clowns who know only MUMPS and are desparately afraid that their stinking, rotten, filthy little jobs, delaying care to military veterans with their goddamn outdated technology, might be lost. Men and women are returning burned and blasted to shit and sit and rot in hallways for "paperwork" to catch up with them.
Where does this paperwork come from? Why is it late?
This article DOES make it clear where it comes from and why it is late. A bunch of contemptible little programmers who care only about their cozy comfortable jobs actually believe the ABSURD claims in this article.
I've removed one such claim: it was logically contradictory, and the person, probably a MUMPS hotshot, who posted it didn't see the logical contradiction because he or she is STUPID. It literally claimed that "structured programming" reduces development time AND that it makes programs difficult to debug.
Hey, Ace. Hey Hot Dog, what the HELL do you think you're claiming?! That you're done developing when you stop typing the code?
My uncle, a personal physician of Lyndon Johnson, is probably DEAD because of MUMPS. He died alone in a military hospital at the age of 78 because Job One in an organization with dysfunctional-dogshit computer systems is the fascinating "intellectual challenge" that paperwork presents, which health "care" bureaucrats seem today to prefer to looking after men and women who've served their country.
As I have posted, last month the OIG of the Veterans Administration has reported serious problems of the type that emerge from clownish data systems celebrated by buffoons for their wonderful GoTo statements, their fascinating limits on string length, and overall, their replacement of transparency by an opacity, that allows data processing bureaucrats, most of whom with serious addictions, usually to food, to sit on their fat asses "thinking" about stupid things.
The article violates wikipedia NPOV and it needs to be rewritten from top to bottom. NPOV is NOT NOT NOT agreement with the local boys who colonize an article. MUMPS is a dysfunctional system: this is FACT.
Edward G. Nilges —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 10:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- EGN, The personal attacks here against other editors are inappropriate, however strongly you feel about the quality of their work. It is a non-collegial approach.
- Your comments are obviously strongly felt, but are largely inappropriate for inclusion in a Wikipedia article. Comments should be neutral and without personal animus. If you want to include this material or something similar, you should recast it into encyclopedic form. As for the Office of the Inspector General report you mention, if it is the one noted below, it does not reflect the content you claim for it. The OIG did not identify MUMPS as a cause of the problems which stimulated the investigation and did not identify any aspect of the software used at VA as a finding to be repaired. Reading the report will make clear the problems were due to sloppy administration, failure to follow procedures, and inappropriate administrative actions, not faulty software. These are administrative issues, not software deficiencies, inherent or otherwise, in design or implementation. ww 18:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
removal of contentious POV text[edit]
The following text was removed from the article for POV and for inaccuracy. The cited report is not about the deficience of any programming language but rather about administrative and personal failures, combined perhaps with physical security issues. There may be such a report excoriating MUMPS for the reasons claimed, but this is not it.
- The proprietary, unstructured, otiose, and primitive nature of MUMPS has caused the Veteran's Administration to delay care to military veterans and made auditing of its responsiveness unnecessarily difficult. Cf.http://www.va.gov/oig/51/FY2007rpts/VAOIG-07-01083-157.pdf, an August 2007 report which found serious problems in both areas, where data systems perform a critical role.
Comments anyone? ww 18:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- Go, ww! 8-) -- CWesling 09:44, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Ummm, that report dealt with the physical loss of a hard drive with data on it. You are blaming that on MUMPS? Perspectoff (talk) 18:47, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Moved 'Major Users' to own page, other edits[edit]
There's not any other programming languages that list the people who use it, and that section was starting to become it's own 'special advertising section'. It probably belongs on an external MUMPS advocacy website, but whatever... it has it's own Wikipedia article now, so advertise away! I saw that someone moved it to the top of the article for bonus goodness, so I put it back under 'History'.
- MUMPS is odd in being nearly invisible for a widely used programming language. WP can surely note this, with examples, without straying beyond its rubric. ww (talk) 21:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- I suppose. It shouldn't be the focus of the article though. Someone seems to have made a nicer summary of Major MUMPS Users, but some quote from a company showing how many credit unions and hospitals use a system would be good. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Procedures are not c source files with respect to variable scope. Procedures by default create variables that are visible to everything calling it and called by it, unlike C, where your function's variables are private unless you declare otherwise.
- True, but ...? If the article was misleading, this point might belong there. MUMPS is not a modern language in some of these respects and expecting it to be so merely confuses. Perhaps we should note these oddities from a perspective some 40 years on? ww (talk) 21:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's just that I removed the claim that procedures = c source files with respect to variable scope. I changed it (on the MUMPS Language Syntax page) to say that they're analogous in terms of how you group functions together. I also added a bunch of other stuff to that section, explaining variable scope, etc... 18.104.22.168 (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Added short example to procedures.
Lots of redundant language removed from the section on variables. There's still some weasel words "large set of string manipulation operators". I'd say it's true... most other languages don't let you treat delimited strings as arrays, but perhaps some sort of comparison or number would go well here. "MUMPS has 50 different internal string operators compared to the 2 in C, or whatever."
Random claim that MUMPS outshines SQL in "faster, more easily used and managed" networked data removed, but feel free to add it back with a cite to an Intersystems ad showing how easily Intersystems' $250k system dominated little Bobby's 8th-grade science-fair-entry SQL server.
- POV comment here. MUMPS access of data from an external node takes a line or two. In many other languages, this requires coordination amongst operating systems configuration choices, external utility programs, or add-on bits to the language system. All are more complex than MUMPS. Quite how to make the point without runing afoul of the OR police is not so obvious. ww (talk) 21:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Although you can mention system names in global names to write onto that system, this feature doesn't help anyone but people writing one-shot MUMPS applications or DBMS designers. Ideally, all databases (including SQL) will have an API layer/DBMS that prevents programmers from directly accessing globals, and adds networking features transparently. So the programmer should never have to know where the data is stored. From the DBA's perspective, GUI tools should make adding network nodes just as easy with both MUMPS and SQL. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- I agree -- from a programmer's and DBA's perspective -- that it should never matter just where the data is stored. No traces in the code of the location, and all that. But from a security perspective, such ease of access (and lessened effort by programmers) is decidely dicey. One doesn't want one's data to be transparently accessed by <whomever> to be used <however>. And abstracting the access control away from the programmer (to some spiffy crypto based access control system -- three headed dogs anyone?) has its own problems. Things are now being handled by two separate apparti, with differing briefs, and ... Well you can see how that can go. So I sympathcize, but recognixe other issues.
- But all of this is obiter dicta for the purposes of this article. MUMPS is not an ideal language for some purposes, but is sensible for some others. Among its minor virtues is easy syntax for accessing data on other systems, admittedly other MUMPS systems and not just any old CSV flat file somewhere. But this is not specially problematic, as most other languages have similar problems. That's the reason for all those messy middle ware specs that were to unify the world and have. By the way, am I talking with one person (Saint) or two (Saint and 169.237...)? ww (talk) 20:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, 184.108.40.206 was me, I just hadn't signed in. Even from a security perspective, access control should probably happen before your app is started. Or, each app shouldn't be reinventing the security framework. Any DBMS (including Fileman) allows you to specify access controls at the database level. Provided you use the API you'll never have to worry about some app that bypasses the security model to retrieve data directly from a global on a networked system. Your system isn't easier to manage when a dozen programmers have written a hundred apps that write directly to remote nodes, and now you've decided you want an access check in front of all of them. However, I did add a section to the summary indicating how the language makes it easy to do so, and it should have a longer section on the syntax page. Saintly (talk) 20:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Although you can mention system names in global names to write onto that system, this feature doesn't help anyone but people writing one-shot MUMPS applications or DBMS designers. Ideally, all databases (including SQL) will have an API layer/DBMS that prevents programmers from directly accessing globals, and adds networking features transparently. So the programmer should never have to know where the data is stored. From the DBA's perspective, GUI tools should make adding network nodes just as easy with both MUMPS and SQL. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
MUMPS can't "easily" generate HTML - you have to put write statements in front of every line and deal with line length limitations. You can't even build entire pages in a variable due to variable size limitations. There's templating languages that are designed for that sort of thing that can probably say they "easily generate HTML and XML", but MUMPS isn't one of them. MUMPS doesn't even read .csv files "easily" if they have embedded commas:
"smith, john",12,14,20,11/22/1966
but I left the claim in, since it's true of very simple files. I guess.
- Good point, but there are similar issues with many other languages. MUMPS is not specially vicious in this respect, just not as easy as some special purpose languages are. This too is a point which perhsp belongs in the article. ww (talk) 21:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, but this point keeps creeping back onto the page for some reason. I suppose someone could point out that MUMPS is pretty average in it's support of reading/writing CSV, HTML and XML, but why point out the average-ness? Most languages have equal trouble with doing these tasks, and deal with it in different ways. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Moved the language summary to a new page, so it can grow and thrive.
- This is reification, albeit humorous. The language summary, if present at all -- and given MUMPS obscurity and simplicity it should be here -- belongs on the language page. To force the Gentle Reader to chase links to get an impression is not helpful, merely an obstacle. ww (talk) 21:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm... I wasn't very clear. Actually, I *left* the 'summary' part on the main page, and moved the details of the language (how procedure files are organized, variable scope details, and some other stuff to the new Syntax page). There seemed to be a lot of redundancy between the 'Summary' and the larger in-depth sections that came before it. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Expanded & clarified the 'Summary' section to cover what was removed as well.
MUMPS does NOT have somehow have less "code bloat" than other languages, unless you count the rampant use of unscoped variables instead of parameter passing, single-letter variables and commands, and use of GOTO instead of loops as "space saving features" instead of "nightmares".
- POV. And wrong. One letter variables and commands are optional, if pernicious. There are still people (large nrs of them) programming in Fortran, Lisp, and assorted assemblers, all of which are poisonous by the implied standard here. No language is perfect, most are annoying in multiple ways, and all do one or more things better than others. MUMPS is good at database sorts of things, has low typing requirements (even if one doesn't elect to use one letter names) many statements are pretty high level (more so than in say, C), ... It's not so good on code and data isolation, in accord with more recent ideas about program structure. But it's usable and widely used. This objection is really an objection of "perfection" ww (talk) 21:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah yeah, but I save my sarcasm for the talk page. =) I don't think too many shops are still writing code that looks like Fileman (thank god), but there was a strange claim that MUMPS has grown up with less "code bloat" than other languages, whatever that means. No cite, no example, just some guy's opinion. Likely a guy that never dug into the Fileman internals, or saw a routine more than 3 years old. I wouldn't consider "code bloat" to be bad these days, space-saving 'features' like having functions fall into other functions because you didn't 'QUIT', or allowing people to jump into the middle of your routine with 'func+2^rtn' are now safely in the realm of "pointless disk space hacks". Hopefully also in the realm of "shootable offenses for programmers". 220.127.116.11 (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Saintly (talk) 10:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Apparently undiscussed removal[edit]
Out of idle curiosity, why didn't anyone notice this removal, which appears to have been done with no discussion? Just because something is disputed for a few months and people forget about it doesn't mean it gets to vanish. If something is broken, clean it up if possible, don't just trash it without discussion. --Thinboy00 @177, i.e. 03:14, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
- Do you think there was any useful information in there? An "opinion" section on this page tends to bloat up with unsourced opinions. MUMPS diehards/hardheads/people who don't understand modern database concepts add their justifications for why they never learned to use a proper database. Then the eggheads with their fancy-schmancy "math degrees" start yammering about their "relational" concepts and how their high-powered 6-figure-license databases have totally rendered MUMPS obsolete. Then the technazis jump in with how their johnny-come-lately languages (ie, anything invented in the past 30 years, like C) can do everything MUMPS can do, but in a faster and more elegant way. Then the diehards chip in again with how their non-MUMPS vendor-specific workarounds and patches to their MUMPS interpreter give them all the goodies they'll ever need. Then it all goes around again. Then the "opinion" section bloats up to 90% of the article, then some MUMPS hardcase who can't think of any more arguments removes it all "to save space".
- There's also no real debate. Who's seriously considering MUMPS instead of MS SQL Server or Oracle for brand new app development? The only reason anyone uses MUMPS anymore is because they have a legacy MUMPS app to support. MUMPS advocates are convincing no-one that their language has any modern relevance. Modern language advocates likewise aren't going to convince MUMPS programmers to convert their 2-million-line epic-scale MUMPS app to SQL.
- Other than that, why don't you start another "Opinion" section and see what happens? :) Saintly (talk)
- It's just that now (or last time I more than skimmed it anyway) the article seems (seemed) to be ~exclusively/mostly positive or neutral, which would appear to exclude half the people you just mentioned, along with the (not a WP:RS, but bear with me) folks at The Daily WTF (who hate it [1]). --Thinboy00 @834, i.e. 19:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- The reasons Saintly gives for supporting removal of this seciton are themselves POV, the POV of someone who has learned his database chops in a later era. MUMPS is the basis of the largest medical database (critical to patient treatment and survival) project in the world (Fileman/VISTA and derivatives at the VA, IHS, and DoD) and is performing quite well by all accounts, despite the opaque programming style of the original Fileman code. There is indeed debate, despite Saintly's evaluation, and difference of opinion too, which is not now addressed at all.
- In any case, the removed section provides perspective useful to the Reader for whom we are editing and so is a worthwhile part of a proper WP article. For languages as old as MUMPS, much comment is merely received classroom wisdom (or prejudice), and not particularly informed. Unlike many older languages (eg, BCPL, or Jovial, or ...) MUMPS is still widely and usefully deployed. That fact is sufficiently anomalous, amongst old languages, that this article is deficient if it does not address the point. This section did so, sort of.
- I'd say we need to reincoporate the content, if not the exact phrasing in the defunct section. ww (talk) 21:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- It's just that now (or last time I more than skimmed it anyway) the article seems (seemed) to be ~exclusively/mostly positive or neutral, which would appear to exclude half the people you just mentioned, along with the (not a WP:RS, but bear with me) folks at The Daily WTF (who hate it [1]). --Thinboy00 @834, i.e. 19:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that there is disagreement as to the usefulness/worth of MUMPS, but I would like to note that just because a company is doing something does not mean that decision is the optimal way to do it. It merely means that from the company's point of view, the short term benefits of changing to an (apparently) more optimal system (if one exists) do not outweigh the costs of switching (which should be substantial in the case of MUMPS b/c it is nothing like e.g. C or other popular languages (is it even imperative?) and thus more effort is expended in switching). So just because MUMPS is widely deployed doesn't mean it is a valuable language compared to e.g. SQL, it simply means a lot of companies decided some time ago that of the options they knew they had, MUMPS appeared to be the optimal one, or at least the lesser of N evils. OTOH, they chose MUMPS for a reason, and there is no reason to assume that they were misinformed or incompetent. We need to show both of those viewpoints, assuming both are notable and not just original research that I made up on the spot (which may turn out to be the case...). --Thinboy00 @019, i.e. 23:26, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Note:I have tagged the article with
{{npov}} in reference to this discussion. I don't know if this can be called a "dispute", but it looks like me and at least one other person agree that the article in its current form is biased. Revert if I'm wrong. --Thinboy00 @026, i.e. 23:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I think you're wrong. Wikipedia articles are supposed to have neutral point of view, not balanced positive and negative points of view. All the arguments I see on this page advocate including all points of view (negative and positive) instead of the required neutral point of view. Your tag seems to have been placed as a protest that unsupported negative (or positive) POVs have been removed. That's silly. You know, you can always do a sub article just for the opinion section. I'd wager it gets a speedy delete. Perspectoff (talk) 18:56, 17 April 2009 (UTC)M
- There's definitely some large apps being run on a MUMPS database. However, they're almost all very old and too large to convert easily to another language. Even the VA tried to abandon MUMPS for their EMR at one point, but gave up when it looked like too big a task. Is there even one external source (reliable or not) suggesting that brand new applications should be written in M? It has no OO features (now widely believed to be essential for any large app), no relationship to any language still being taught in school, and not even the humble 'while' loop. Even the only vendor selling it doesn't mention it; Cache lets you write your code entirely in Java. If there's a debate, where's the comparison studies? How does a MUMPS-based DBMS compare to Oracle? How does a hand-coded, global-using MUMPS app compare to a C program that similarly bypasses the DBMS layer of a SQL database? Where's the ongoing development of the language? I'm pretty sure that no-one even implements the 1995 standard, which was mostly about dealing with the windowing system. Does any professional software reviewer see any benefits you would get from choosing MUMPS over a solution that is more easily maintainable? If you can find these answers in magazines or online articles, then by all means... let's make a decent 'Opinion' or 'Pros and Cons of MUMPS' section. Otherwise, the only debate is on Wikipedia itself, between a bunch of anonymous screen names. Saintly (talk) 12:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
<- I understand the position, but it is POV. That you don't see much virtue in MUMPS and can rationally defend that position is all good, but not grounds for deleting WP content which is not blatantly POV. For instance, Intersystems may not mention MUMPS in its sales literature, but this could be due to many reasons, including a tradition at Intersystems of preferring M. Only one possible explanation is that Intersystems is stuck with a product line they don't want to expose as based on passe technology. OO is indeed the flavor of the week (or longer), but, like all other software paradigm advances I can recall, is not likely to be the last word in design approaches. That the herd has moved is not compelling evidence of a proper decision by some neutral and omniscient observer. I think we still don't have sufficient reason to delete that section, your advocacy notwithstanding. ww (talk) 20:24, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not against having a "pros and cons" section, but I'm just not clear on what you'd plan to put in it. My point was that there doesn't seem to be any discussion of MUMPS or research into it's merits going on-- anywhere. The reasons for not just bringing back any of the previous versions of the "opinion" section are that they contain absolutely no references, citations or even original research to back up the opinions. There was just useless crap like "Dick Walters [an MDC member and MUMPS advocate] says that MUMPS is the best-kept secret in IT", or "Saintly says MUMPS sucks and is a pain to work in". I could be wrong, but I don't think these random observations and quotations are very encyclopedia-worthy. Saintly (talk) 22:49, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- What's going on here? "Pros and Cons" doesn't play into it; no one is evaluating MUMPS as a seriously as a choice for new development. The reason MUMPS still exists is the reason COBOL still exists: legacy systems. Not just the VA/DoD, though. M is used by other major EMR vendors and major financial institutions (Epic, Fidelity, AmeriTrade, more here and here) who collectively have tens, if not hundreds of millions of lines of MUMPS code. That's not really the point, though. Checking the articles for other languages, such as C or Python shows no similar section. COBOL has "Criticism" and "Defense" sections, which seems inappropriate for an encyclopedic article, much like this one did. Leave it out. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 16:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- I don't see any point in reestablishing an "Opinions" or "Pros and Cons" section either. Opinions aren't encyclopedic, and pros and cons are pointless for a language this old, as 22.214.171.124 points out so well. I looked at what was removed, and none of it was cited or referenced. Whoever removed it did us a favor, IMNSHO. Just let it go... — CWesling (talk) 21:35, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Cause following effect?[edit]
"Because it predates C and most other popular languages in current usage, it has very different syntax and terminology. " It doesn't follow. Accepting that M predates C, it would be at least as sensible to say that although C followed M/Mumps, very different syntax and terminology were chosen for C by its designers. It would not be senible to say that this was becuase C followed M, I'd assume that the designers made choices that seemed good to them, for their own reasons. I'd suggest that the sentence is either discarded, or is altered to something similar to: "Mumps predates C " (in case anyone can't decide form the dates given for the start of the two, which came first) "The syntax of M is very different from C". (in case anyone can't tell that from looking at the syntaxes. Actually, it would be best left out, would it not? Midgley (talk) 23:06, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, probably not. MUMPS is a little known language and this comment relates some aspects of it to a much better known language. In the process explaining, for non-MUMPS heads, that its differences are not an aberration in an era of block structured languages (and so aberrational in a bad way), but arise from the history and so look of perfectly plausible reasons. Reading this comment as a logical cause and effect is misplaced. But if you can word it in such as way as to not misled logically while making the same points on behalf of the Gentle Reader, please be bold. ww (talk) 00:58, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
PDP-8 Version?[edit]
Is anyone aware of a port to the PDP-8? I see a number of references worded exactly the same as in the body of this posting but I am not aware of a PDP-8 version. It was built on the PDP-7 and ported to the PDP-9 and PDP-15 and briefly to the PDP-11. I propose to remove the PDP-8 reference and replace it by the PDP-9 and PDP-15, I think the original reference was a typoLawrence1957 (talk) 21:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- There is no sign of PDP-8 version in DEC history document 1957-1978, though PDP-15 and PDP-11 are present. This predates the VAX, and its version.
- This is the source:
- From the bitsavers.org collection, a scanned-in computer-related document.
- dec :: Books :: DEC 1957 To The Present 1978
- Digital Equipment Corporation, 1957 To The Present [1978]
- https://archive.org/stream/bitsavers_decBooksDE78_60225737/DEC_1957_To_The_Present_1978#page/n25/mode/1up/search/MUMPS
Lent (talk) 22:23, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Sample code[edit]
It seems regrettable that the article does not contain an example of good, straightforward, intelligible MUMPS coding practice. The FILEMAN example is a fair representative of what might be called "old-school" coding style; the others border on tricks or intentional obfuscation.
I've personally been away from MUMPS for too long to have an example to supply. Dpbsmith (talk) 23:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- The %DTC code example is terrible. It's a date library function which is far from typical, and doesn't contain a single global reference. 80N (talk) 06:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Can't seem to get a good wraparound print of this article (MUMPS invariably has been consistent in this problem creation). Using the Wikipedia Print version, on either Chrome or ie9, the GREPTHIS boxed subroutine is cut off on the NEW'ed variables line.
- Am not an expert in the boxing portion to make this correction. Regular article text does not appear to be cutoff in the same regard using ie9. BrianLAmmon (talk) 18:58, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Here is a better article on MUMPS[edit]
When your article is less informative than the DailyWTF article on the same topic, you know you're doing it wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 16:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- Nope. See the (exhaustive) debate in this talk page and MUMPS/Archive01, for why people decided criticism of MUMPS didn't belong here. It'd be nice if the page linked to that post though, since a DailyWTF post about a language is pretty notable, but I'm having trouble thinking of a way to do it neutrally. Publicly Visible (talk) 18:27, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
- OK, I added a link to The Daily WTF. And, well, made a new Criticism section. But don't panic! I put it as a subheading under "Summary of key language features" and didn't actually include any of the criticisms, which is hopefully more WP:NPOV. Someone said above that The Daily WTF isn't WP:RS but I think it falls under a source that's biased but still important enough to be worth including. I think as long as we stick with things like "The Daily WTF wrote about it" as opposed to "The Daily WTF wrote about it and that means it's bad" we'll be fine. Publicly Visible (talk) 19:25, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
$PIECE Example in "Summary of key language features" restructured[edit]
I am not a MUMPS programmer, but I revised the $PIECE example. In particular, I moved this in front of the PIECE example that uses SET.
$PIECE("world.std.com",".",2) yields "std".
The example has no dependency on the
SET X portion which had preceded it. This MUMPS code seems to be equivalent to the following AWK example:
echo 'world.std.com' | awk 'BEGIN{FS="."};{print $2}'
The example MUMPS code that follows:
SET X="email@example.com"
SET $P(X,"@",1)="office" causes X to become "email@example.com"
seems to be equivalent to the following AWK code.
echo 'email@example.com' | awk 'BEGIN{FS="@";OFS=FS};{$1="office";print}'
which yields:
Lent (talk) 21:49, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
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Wildcats Face Horned Frogs for First Time
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Oct. 12, 2012
MANHATTAN, Kan. – Kansas State volleyball will face an unfamiliar foe on Saturday as the Wildcats take on the TCU Horned Frog for the first time. With the Horned Frog joining the Big 12 Conference this year, TCU is an unfamiliar opponent to many of the teams in the league, but K-State and TCU have never met before this weekend. First serve is set for 1 p.m. from Fort Worth.
The Wildcats and Horned Frogs will both be well rested with each team receiving one of its midweek byes in the conference schedule this week. Both teams have had all week to prepare for their only match and slowing down the other's offense with the Wildcats and Horned Frogs among the most efficient attacks in the conference so far this season.
K-State and TCU are both looking to get back on the winning track with the Wildcats falling at home on Saturday to No. 9 Texas. The Horned Frogs have dropped three straight matches to Iowa State, Texas and Oklahoma after opening league action with victories over West Virginia and Texas Tech.
TCU went 11-2 during nonconference play winning nine matches in a row at one point. All five of the Horned Frogs' losses have come to teams that went to the NCAA Tournament last year, three of which were ranked at the time.
On the Airwaves
Saturday's match can be heard online only at kstatesports.com and 1350kman.com due to coverage of K-State's football game against Iowa State on KMAN 1350. Rob Voelker will be calling the volleyball action and pregame coverage begins at 12:30 p.m.
TCU has agreed with K-StateHD.TV to share its video feed from Frog Vision, allowing fans subscribing to K-State's online network to be able to watch the match. Live stats will also be available at kstatesports.com and gofrogs.com provided by CBS GameTracker.
The Series
This is the first time K-State and TCU have played each other in volleyball.
The Coaches
Kansas State: Suzie Fritz (Florida Atlantic '94) is in her 12th year as head coach of the Wildcats she is the winningest coach in the program's history with 233 wins and has taken the team to eight NCAA Tournaments, including three runs to the Regional Semifinals.
TCU: Prentice Lewis (Long Beach State '95) is in her 11th year leading the Horned Frogs. Last season TCU had its second highest winning percentage in school history going 25-7 after opening the year 13-0. It was the sixth 20-win season under Lewis' direction. She also took TCU to its first NCAA Tournament in 2009.
Scouting the Horned Frogs
TCU is led by a junior middle blocker similar to K-State. Yvonne Igodan is averaging 3.54 kills per set overall on the season and 2.94 in conference play. She ranks fourth in the conference in hitting percentage at .333 and is fifth in kills overall. Igodan has been slowed in conference play recently as the Horned Frogs have had to face No. 19 Iowa State, No. 9 Texas and an Oklahoma team just outside the AVCA Top 25 their last three matches.
Facing No. 14 K-State on Saturday extends the long stretch of NCAA Tournament teams TCU must play consecutively. TCU enters the contest with a 13-5 record. All five of the losses have come to teams from the 2011 NCAA Tournament, three of which were ranked.
Igodan is not alone in providing points for her team during conference play. Sophomore right side Stephanie Holland has stepped up to average 3.00 kills in Big 12 matches to give the Horned Frogs to players ranked in the top 10 in the league. The pair combined for 21 of TCU's 49 kills in a 3-0 loss to Oklahoma in their last match.
The Horned Frogs have an experienced setter directing the offense in Megan Munce. The fifth year senior is averaging 9.00 assists per set and adds 2.73 digs. With the setter taking so many digs, libero Meghan Horio is contributing some assists for TCU as well. Munce received AVCA All-America honorable mention in 2009 when she helped guide the Horned Frogs to their first NCAA Tournament. She also was named Mountain West Conference Setter of the Year.
TCU is a strong defensive team ranking second in digs during conference play. The Horned Frogs are led on the back row by Horio, who is posting 4.29 per set herself.
Catching Up with the 'Cats
The Wildcats are coming off only their second loss of the season after falling to No. 9 Texas 0-3. K-State kept it close with the Longhorns in the first set before Texas won seven straight points to win 25-17. The Wildcats also had opportunities to win the second set with multiple set points Texas was able to fight off.
K-State is still ranked among the top teams in the country and boast a 3-1 record against ranked opponents after defeating then-No. 22 Iowa State just days before playing Texas. The Wildcats dominated the match against the Cyclones hitting .417. It marked the highest hitting percentage allowed by Iowa State all season and the highest for K-State against the Cyclones since hitting .348 in 2002. Conversely, K-State held Iowa State to only a .178 hitting percentage, marking the 11th time this season K-State has held its opponent under .200 for the match. The victory also snapped an eight-match losing streak to the Cyclones.
In the loss to Texas, junior middle blocker Kaitlynn Pelger traded blows with Texas star Haley Eckerman. Pelger finished the match with 15 kills while Eckerman had 19. The two were neck and neck heading into the third set before Eckerman and the Longhorns pulled away.
The Wildcats continue to boast an offense and defense that have both proven to be among the nation's best this season. In addition to the Wildcats hitting .270 as a team through last week's matches to rank 22nd in the latest NCAA statistical rankings of the season released Monday, the team is 31st in kills at 14.19 per set and 34th in blocking. Through last week's matches, the Wildcats are stuffing 2.65 attacks from their opponents this season and have posted 10 or more blocks in five matches. The Wildcats are also posting 13.44 assists per set to rank 18th.
Individually, the Wildcats have some of the top talent in the nation in addition to Pelger. Senior middle blocker Alex Muff has proven to be one of the best at her position defensively as she is currently 15th in the nation in blocks per set, averaging 1.46.
Senior setter Caitlyn Donahue is again one of the leading setters in the Big 12 Conference and the nation. She currently stands eighth on the NCAA list averaging 11.86 assists per set. Her guidance as the setter has helped the Wildcats' offense rank high in kills and hitting percentage.
Thanks to Donahue's setting, the Wildcats have had fewer errors this season. In the win over Iowa State, the Cyclones had four blocks for the match. Taking those four hitting errors out of K-State's stats to account for the blocks, the Wildcats hit only two balls out of bounds for unforced errors.
Pelger Earns Second Big 12 Player of the Week
K-State middle blocker Kaitlynn Pelger continues to prove she is one of the best players in the Big 12 Conference as she helped lead the Wildcats to a pair of wins two weeks ago and was named Big 12 Conference Offensive Player of the Week for the second time this season.
Pelger tallied 13 kills on 20 swings and only one error to hit .600 against new Big 12 member West Virginia. She also added nine digs to just miss out on her fifth double-double of the season as the Wildcats swept the Mountaineers 25-8, 25-19, 25-17. She did get that elusive double-double in Saturday's match as the Wildcats posted their first road win at Baylor since 2008. K-State won the match 3-1 and Pelger took control blasting out 23 kills for a new season-high, surpassing her previous best of 22 in a five set match. The junior added 12 digs from the back row as she remains one of the few middle blockers in the country to play all six rotations, and she hit .321 for the match.
On the week Pelger averaged an impressive 5.14 kills per set while hitting .397. She also contributed 3.00 digs per set. She is one of only two players in the Big 12 to rank in the top 10 in four different statistical categories in overall matches. In conference play she is leading kills per set by nearly half a kill.
K-State Ranked No. 14
The Wildcats held steady in this week's AVCA Coaches Top 25 Poll after splitting matches with two ranked opponents at home. Purdue lost to an unranked Iowa team to provide the shuffling in the poll, dropping five spots to No. 17. With the movement, San Diego jumped K-State to take No. 13. After the best start in school history at 12-0, K-State climbed to No. 11 three weeks ago but still remain among the top teams in the country. The No. 11 ranking was the highest the Wildcats had been ranked since being No. 11 on Nov. 26, 2007.
Four Big 12 teams are now ranked with Kansas crashing the Top 25 last week and moving up to No. 21 this week. Texas climbed one spot this week to No. 8, and Iowa State dropped one to No. 23. Oklahoma is listed among the teams also receiving votes.
A number of K-State's nonconference foes are among the top teams as well. Minnesota and Dayton are still ranked with the Golden Gophers holding onto No. 10 and Dayton remaining at No. 18. Three more of K-State's nonconference opponents are receiving votes. St. Mary's is just outside the Top 25 as the third leading vote getter. Oregon State also is still receiving votes and this week Creighton moves back onto the list.
Winning Formula
The NCAA released its updated RPI rankings on Monday, and the computers continue to love the K-State Wildcats. With a 16-2 record entering this week the Wildcats come in at No. 9 in the RPI report, dropping two spots from last week's first rankings. Similar to basketball, the NCAA selection committee uses RPI as a major factor in determining at-large bids and seeding for the NCAA Tournament. The selection committee only seeds the top 16 teams for the postseason, with regional sites hosted at Purdue, Texas, Cal and in Omaha. The first two rounds of the tournament are played at campus sites to be determined.
Nine of K-State's opponents are in the Top 50 of the RPI, including three in the top 15 in Texas (8), Minnesota (10) and Kansas (14).
Elite Company
K-State's football team is a perfect 5-0 and ranked No. 6 following a victory over in-state rival KU. With K-State's No. 14-ranked volleyball team at 16-2, the Wildcats join only 9 other schools that can boast the same accomplishment so far with their football and volleyball teams ranked.
The Wildcats are one of three Big 12 schools to have football and volleyball both ranked. The Pac-12 also has three schools on the list. Oregon is the only school with both teams in the Top 10 as football is No. 2 and volleyball drops to No. 5 this week.
Cleaning Up
K-State currently stands at 16-2, but the way the Wildcats have been winning is just as impressive. A total of 13 of those victories have been 3-0 sweeps of their opponents. That total already surpasses last year's eight sweeps and is one shy of the most by any team in the nation so far. Western Kentucky leads NCAA Division I with 14 sweeps and Towson joins K-State with 13. Five other teams have 12 sweeps, including some of the best teams in the country like No. 2 Washington, No. 9 Texas and No. 16 BYU.
The 3-0 sweeps have come against strong competition as well, including No. 22 Iowa State last week. The Wildcats swept Creighton on the Bluejays' home court while the team was receiving votes in the poll. K-State swept 2011 NCAA Tournament teams Missouri State and Tulsa, as well as No. 20 Dayton. Some opponents K-State swept earlier in the season have responded with signature wins as well. Oregon State defeated No. 2 Penn State in five sets, and Syracuse bested No. 23 Iowa State on the Cyclones' home floor, and St. Mary's has defeated two ranked opponents in then-No. 18 Pepperdine and No. 11 BYU.
Packed with Purple
K-State fans have traditionally made Ahearn Field House one of the greatest venues and atmospheres in the Big 12 Conference. In 2011, fans packed Ahearn with purple averaging more than 1,500 per match and ranked No. 22 in the nation. The 2012 season as been no different with the Wildcats ranked No. 17 in this week's NCAA attendance report, averaging more than 1,800 per match.
More than 3,000 fans packed the stands on Saturday as the Wildcats played host to No. 9 Texas. It marked the first crowd to crack the 3,000 mark since posting two such attendance marks during the 2010 season.
This season started off strong with more than 2,700 fans in attendance for the season opener against UC Irvine and following the match Suzie Fritz again praised the fans and said K-State is one of the best atmospheres to play in all the country. For the final match of opening weekend more than 1,500 faithful came out to watch a come-from-behind victory over Oregon State to average 1,755 for the three matches at the Varney's Invitational.
Conference play has seen some of the largest crowds of the season at Ahearn Field House. In the conference home opener 1,912 fans came to Ahearn Field House to welcome West Virginia to the Big 12 Conference. Then against No. 22 Iowa State, fans filled the stands with 2,060 at Ahearn. With Saturday's attendance of 3,044 against Texas, K-State fans are averaging nearly 2,400 strong during Big 12 matches.
This year more renovations have been done to Ahearn Field House to enhance the atmosphere. The entire balcony seating area has been painted purple and white. The railings have all been converted from cream to white and the bleachers are now K-State Purple instead of brown. Along with the seating renovations and Powercat banner installed over the previous two years, Ahearn Field House is now truly home to the Purple and the White. A new media center has been installed as well for journalists to cover matches for their respective media outlets.
Redesigned banners have been hung in Ahearn as well replacing the older ones. The traditional style banners commemorate the winning tradition at K-State, displaying all 13 NCAA Tournament banners, All-Americans and the 2003 Big 12 Championship.
Singled Out
The Wildcats did something they have never accomplished in a sweep over West Virginia two weeks ago. K-State held the Mountaineers to just eight points in the first set. It is the first time in the rally scoring era K-State has kept a conference foe from scoring double digits in a non-fifth set. It also is the first time the Wildcats have held any opponent under 10 points in rally scoring since Cornell in 2008.
In the 25-8 win to open the match, the Wildcats went on a 12-0 run while Donahue went on a long serving run, which included a pair of back-to-back aces. After West Virginia was able to stop the run, the Mountaineers found themselves down 22-6. West Virginia hit -.133 in the set as the Wildcats stuffed three blocks and the Mountaineers had four more unforced attack errors in addition to a pair of service errors.


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I am a Carlson (Radisson rewards program) member. I booked weeks in advance and told the hotel that I would be arriving at Midday and needed early check-in as I had an overnight flight. When I arrived at the hotel at midday, they said that my room was not ready. Just to put this in to context. My colleague arrived at the same time. He had not asked for early check-in nor was he a Carlson club member but he was given a room right away!!. So you can imagine I was pretty annoyed. However, recognizing that early rooms can be a challenge I patiently waited in the lobby. However after an hour, when there was still no room, I asked to see a Manager. He/She must be a pretty tough cookie because after I asked this, magically they found a room for me. So not a very promising start to my stay!!.
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There is a nice bar with a balcony overlooking Rivonia road.
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So after a shaky start I was really glad about moving my stay to this hotel and for future trips to JNB will stay here.
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Novak Djokovic, Roger Federer, Stan Wawrinka and Andy Murray remain on course for the Wimbledon semi-finals ahead of the last-16 matches on the tournament's so-called Manic Monday.
Six of the top 10 seeds are safely through to the business end after a first week that included defeats for seventh seed Milos Raonic and 10th-seeded Rafael Nadal.
Fifth seed Kei Nishikori withdrew before the second round with a calf injury, while eighth-seeded David Ferrer pulled out before the first round.
While Nick Kyrgios – who knocked out Nadal in the fourth round last year on his way to a maiden quarter-final – meets Richard Gasquet on court two, defending champion Djokovic will face South African 14th seed Kevin Anderson.
Anderson won their first meeting in 2008 but the world No.1 has won the next four without dropping a set, including at Wimbledon in the second round four years ago.
"I think he is probably playing the tennis of his life," said Djokovic who hasn't dropped a set so far at the tournament.
"He's reached the highest ranking now in his career. He keeps on going forward.
"It will be a match of very small margins that will be decided by a few points."
Federer, chasing a record eighth Wimbledon and 18th major, has dropped just one set so far, in Saturday's third-round win over Sam Groth.
The Swiss faces Spanish 20th seed Roberto Bautista Agut, who was voted the most improved player of 2014. He is in the fourth round for the first time but has lost both of his matches against Federer without winning a set.
Murray, the 2013 champion, tackles 36-year-old Ivo Karlovic, who is the oldest man to make the fourth round at the All England Club since compatriot Niki Pilic in 1976.
The 23rd seed is also the oldest to reach the last 16 of any Grand Slam since 39-year-old Jimmy Connors at the 1991 US Open.
"I really like what I do. I'm just having fun. So if I'm able to do this at my age, it is unbelievable still," said Karlovic, who has rained down 136 aces in three matches.
Murray needed treatment on his right shoulder in his four-set win over Andreas Seppi on Saturday but then reeled off the last six games.
He will takes a 5-0 career lead into Monday's clash with Karlovic.
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Wawrinka has a 2-0 lead over Goffin.
Wildcard Denis Kudla is the lowest ranked player left in the tournament. The world No.105 was winning a second-tier Challenger tournament at Ilkley in Yorkshire, northern England on the eve of Wimbledon.
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Our profile page for Kaolin, Washington County [Map]Distance: About 190 miles [305.8 km] to the Southeast
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Coney Island Mermaid Parade, The 28 annual Coney Island Mermaid Parade will take place this Saturday with celebrity attendees, lots of outlandish costumes and scantily clad participants. Not expected to be about 3,000 demonstrators heading for the seafront with push-pull fleet as they make their way west of Stillwell Avenue. Where the parade will dissolve at around 5:30 pm.
Designed by Coney Island USA in 1983, the first step for many summer events in New York has become a tradition beloved city of New York. The non-profit arts organized the parade in eccentric and funny tribute to Coney Island Mardi gras, which lasted from 1903 until 1954.
Those attending the parade usually show handmade costumes mermaid, but undermine the parade organizers consider "various creatures of the sea, the lighthouse occasionally wandering Coney Island amusement park postcards and antique cars, marching bands, drill teams, and the odd yacht pulled on the plane "tend to make appearances.
This year, King Neptune, Adam Richman native Brooklyn Vs The Travel Channel as a man. "Food" and Queen Mermaid Cat Greenleaf New York Emmy Award winning television show, "Talk Stoop Cat Greenleaf" shall act on procedures to be riding in the parade and attendance at the opening of the ocean for the summer, cutting through the tape representing the seasons, and throw the fruit into the Atlantic to appease the sea gods.
For the first time this year's parade winners will be announced at the Mermaid Parade Ball, a post-parade meeting on the deck Oceanic Aquarium New York and the Aqua Theatre, where participants dressed in the parade and spectators parade will gather for live music acts and entertainment.
"The ball is an event that itself," said executive artistic director Dick D. Zigun.
"What better place for a party after a parade mermaid New York Aquarium? New this year are allowing us to use the amphitheater of sea lions swimming and have sirens there, live music and the awards ".
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Math III Section 4.6 #29 and #31
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Problem #29- Negative Real Roots
This is the problem that we are given to correct from problem #29. Sooo, lets get started!!!!
In order to solve for negative real roots, we have to have negatives, correct? Correct. So here in the photo above, we substituted {P(-x)} for all of the places that had an x as the variable.
In the photo above we simply simplified, the problem, and here we were able to identify the sign changes, and the negative real roots!!!
Here is the Original problem, that is wrong. As you can see, whoever did this problem only has one sign change when it should be three. They have this wrong because, they did not simplify correctly. But thanks to us, we fixed it for them!!!!!
Problem #31 - Trapezoid Garden
In the photo above, I have made a brace map from the word problem that was given to us, in problem #31, that only has the important details. This is actually considered our starting point... Soooo, let's get started!!!!
From the previous photo, we learned that whoever was building this Trapezoid Garden, wanted the shorter base to be two times the height, and the longer base four more than the shorter base. So here is where we made our equation, and we basically plugged everything in according to the way it was given. We were also given the option to factor out the equation, or use the Quadratic Formula.
As you can see in the photo above, we chose to solve this problem by using the Quadratic Formula, which is -b+/- the square root of b^2-4ac. And here, we simply plugged the equation h^2+h-30 into the quadratic formula. When the formula was completed, you saw that we had two answers, 5, and -6. Wonder why we chose five? Scrool down to the next photo to find out!!
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All Souls' Night is an excellent collection of stories, originally published back in the 1930's. I listened to the audio version, narrated by the outstanding Matt Godfrey.
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Lilac I thought this was going to be one kind of story, but it didn't go the way I thought it would at all.
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this book is phenomenal so far! Even though it was originally published in the 1930's, I'm not finding the stories to feel dated. I especially liked "The Staircase" and "The Silver Mask" and I am looking forward to listening to more today. Plus, the narration is absolutely perfect, which is great because I've ditched my last two audios due to narrators that just weren't working for me.
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3 days ago: Congrats 🍾 @coltonHAAKER wins #endurocross Las Vegas | @HusqvarnaUSA #rockstarhusky #oneteamnoborders | https://t.co/f8rE0Eh3C5 see full story
4 days ago: Tristan Rennie airing out the weekend #RockstarSkate #GoSkate see full story
4 days ago: You know darn well that Mike Mason has some tricks up his sleeves🤘🏽 #RockstarFMX #FMX see full story