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Sean hit the ground for what felt like the thousandth time that afternoon. His muscles no longer seemed to be obeying the orders of his brain and he ended up in a heap on the mat. He was definitely going to need to sleep on his stomach tonight.
"Sean, I've told you a hundred times: Keep your feet tucked." Kelly HAD said it a hundred times, but it was a lot to remember: 'Tuck your head. Push off with your rear leg. Allow your body to rock forward into the roll across from shoulder to the hip. Keep your feet tucked during the roll. Come out of the roll hands up turning to face the direction the roll was begun.'
Sean didn't move from the mat. He was NOT getting up, only to fall back down once again. The servants would have to carry him out.
"Just one good one, and then we can stop for the day." It was easy for Kelly to say 'just on more', she hadn't done the first few hundred. Kelly put her hands on her hips.
"Come, Sean. Let's not forget whose idea this was in the first place." Sean groaned. When he'd asked Kelly if they could spend their last few weeks before he went back to school on martial arts training, this wasn't what he'd had in mind.
It had all started a week ago when Kelly had taken him to see a movie for the first time in his life. His father considered film vulgar entertainment for the lower classes and his mother wasn't interested in spending time with Sean that didn't involve intelligence gathering or grooming him into Philippe's idea of a perfect prince.
When Kelly had invited him to come with her to see an action movie, Sean had suggested they keep the outing a secret from his father. The Grimm had vehemently refused, saying that she couldn't possibly kept secrets from Philippe. In that moment he'd found it hard to believe she was the same woman who had flatly lied to the prince for him on the night they met. Kelly was different than she'd been two months ago.
Most of the time the changes were imperceptible, but whenever the Prince was in the room, or even mentioned, Kelly turned in someone he barely recognized. Her eyes dilated, and a dreamy smile crept over her face. If the Prince spoke, she listened as if there was no one else in the room. Kelly's head seemed to nod in agreement with everything he said. Sean didn't like it, but he tried his best to ignore it.
Sitting in a cinema for the first time in his life it was easy to forget his worries about Kelly's strange new behavior. Sharing a bowl of popcorn with Kelly as they watched actors kick and punch their way across the silver screen felt like a scene in someone else's life. For those few hours of blissful escape nothing existed outside that movie theater; not his father, not his mother, and not his brother. When the credits rolled Kelly had had to practically drag him out of his seat. Sean doubted he would ever see another performer in the whole of his life that would bring him more joy than Jackie Chan had that day.
The second he and Kelly had emerged from the building Sean had begged Kelly train him the basics of the martial arts. She had agreed, and he'd been thrilled. Unfortunately the lessons hadn't been quite what he had imagined.
"I don't see what rolling on the ground has to do with martial arts." Sean had thought he'd be learning kicks and punches, not summersaults
"You're learning how to protect yourself when you fall-" Kelly stopped mid-sentence and put her hand over her mouth. Without warning she sprinted off the mat with at a breakneck speed, grabbed the wastebasket by the door and vomited into it. Sean struggled to sit up; watching with a combination of concern and disgust as she finished, put the basket down and walked over to her water bottle.
"Are you alright?" Kelly smiled weakly as she took a swig of water.
"I'm fine." She didn't look fine. Her skin had taken on a greenish hue.
"I'll get the servants to call a doctor." Sean pushed himself to his feet, but Kelly motioned for him to stop.
"Sean, I'm not sick."
"You just threw up." People vomited for a reason. Something was wrong with Kelly, and Sean would see she was taken care of. He had promised to protect her, after all.
"Yes, but I'm not sick, I'm-" Kelly stared intently at him for a few seconds, then sighed, "Sean, would you sit down please? I have to tell you something. I was going to tell your father first, but this concerns you too," Kelly waited until Sean had lowered himself back down on the floor before announcing, "You're going to be a big brother." Sean's mouth dropped open.
"I don't understand." A big brother? Him? Did that mean that Kelly was…
"I'm pregnant, Sean." Her words were like a detonating bomb, destroying Sean's world in a single instant. The blood drained from his face and he heard ringing in his ears. It was the end of everything.
He didn't move as Kelly scooted over to sit beside him.
"I know this must be a big shock, but I love Philippe and he loves me and we're all going to really happy together. Whoever's in here, I know they're going to love you as much as I do." The last sentence somehow penetrated his inner turmoil.
"You love me?" The word felt strange on his tongue. 'Love' wasn't a term used by members of his family, as least not in reference to one another. 'Love' was a weakness to be exploited in others, not something felt by or for Royalty. Sean thought back to his mother's words to him, 'we aren't loveable.' Yet Kelly said she loved him and Kelly didn't lie.
"Of course I do. You don't think I'd take just anyone to see The Young Master with me do you?" Kelly tentatively reached out an arm and draped it over Sean's shoulders. She didn't seem to mind he was smelly and sweaty from his lesson. The Grimm squeezed his shoulder and something inside Sean broke. He leaned into her chest and started to cry.
Sean wept for everything he'd suffered at the hands of his family. He wept for kind words never spoken and embraces never given. Sean sobbed for the life that would never be his. He sobbed for fairytales and Jackie Chan. Sean cried for Kelly. He cried the mother he'd always wanted, the friend he'd always wished for, and the protector he'd always needed. Kelly rubbed Sean's back in small circles as his tears wet her shirt.
"Everything is going to be alright. It won't be like it is with Eric. You're going to love having a baby brother." Sean had trouble believing that. Brothers were threats and rivals. Yet this brother would come from Kelly. He would be a piece of her and Sean didn't think he could hate any part of Kelly.
"How do you know it's going to be a boy?"
"I have an instinct. My dad calls it 'Grimm Gut'. It's sort of like a sixth sense I get maybe once or twice a year. In less than eight months you're going to have a little brother. You'll look after him and one day he'll look after you. He might be the size of a peanut now, but one day he might be a Grimm." Kelly smiled and put a hand over her stomach. She seemed so calm and happy. She had no idea the kind of danger she was in. Sean had to warn her. He'd promised to protect her and now he also had someone new to look out for.
"Don't tell him." Kelly looked up at him, confused, "Prince Philippe. You can't tell him about the baby."
"Sean, you know I can't lie to him." The irony of the statement was enough to make Sean's head explode.
"He lies to you! All he's ever done is lie to you!" It was a dam had broken inside of Sean and the truth came flooding out. It was both liberating and terrifying.
"Sean-" He cut her off before she could even bring her defense of the prince.
"He's married." His tutor froze and then slowly shook her head.
"No, he's divorced. He got divorced years ago. You know that." Sean knew alright. He knew every lie his father had spewed, because he'd been forced to recite them a hundred times before he'd been permitted to meet Kelly. He's practiced the story again and again and again, because Philippe had made it clear that mistakes would not be tolerated.
"No, Kelly. The Princess and the Princess are still married." According to Nicole the alliance had been arranged when Philippe was 20 and Victoria was 18. After discovering the existence of an attractive female Grimm in his canton, Philippe had sent Victoria for an extended their house in Tuscany. Victoria had been less than pleased, but Sean was more than happy to see her go.
"I know this is difficult because of your mother-"
"Victoria is not my mother. That's just one more thing he lied to you about. The prince and my mother were never married. I'm a bastard. Please believe me." Sean didn't know what he'd do if he couldn't convince her. If she went to Philippe everything that mattered to him would die.
"I can't. Sean, I love him." Kelly seemed so helpless and small. The woman before him only looked like the Grimm he had met two months ago. Something had weakened her. No, someone had weakened her, and Sean knew exactly who that someone was.
"No, you don't. You're just under a spell." Sean had suspected his mother's handiwork ever since the day Eric had attacked him. Nicole had mentioned adjusting Kelly's 'doses' and Sean had doubted Nicole would be proscribing Kelly medicine.
"What?" Sean felt a rush of guilt at the look of betrayal on Kelly's face. He should have warned her sooner. He'd told himself that it wouldn't do any good, that Kelly was safer not knowing, but deep down Sean just didn't want to reveal to Kelly how he knew. His mother's words still echoed in his head, 'She wouldn't hesitant to cut off your head if she knew what you were.' He didn't want her to look at him and see a monster.
"Philippe has a Hexenbiest working for him. I think he's been dosing you since the first time you came here for dinner." Nicole had implied Kelly's 'treatment' was ongoing. Sean knew Kelly and the Prince had dinner at the Chateau at least once a week. The concoction was probably added to her food.
"That's impossible. For a spell like that, the hexenbiest would need blood and I haven't-" Kelly stopped mid-sentence as though a horrible thought occurred to her.
"The night I first meet Philippe I'd been hunting. I was knocked out and I woke up here. He could have taken some while I was unconscious. I was in such bad shape, I wouldn't have noticed. Oh my God. Sean, why didn't you tell me?" Sean cringed at the question, even though he'd been expecting it.
"I didn't tell you at first because my father ordered me not to. You were a stranger and Philippe is my father. Later, I wanted to tell you, but I also didn't want to lose you."
"What do you mean?" Sean took a deep breath. The moment he'd been dreading had arrived.
"I'm not just an ordinary bastard. I'm what the Verrat would call an 'abomination.'" Unnatural half-bred, that's what they would call him as they tried to wipe him from the face of the Earth.
"Who are the Verrat and why would they call you that?" There was so much that Kelly didn't know about his world.
"I'll show you, but you have to promise you won't hate me."
"Sean, nothing could make me hate you." Sean prayed that was true as he woged and exposed his Wesen face. He trained his eyes on the mat, afraid to look at Kelly's face. He could stand a lot, but he couldn't stand to see Kelly look at him with loathing or disgust.
"I'm half Hexenbiest. Only the Prince, Eric, my mother, and you know the truth." Suddenly he felt warm fingers under his chin, gentle pressed upward so his face would be looking into Kelly's. He saw her eyes and there was no hatred there, only confusion.
"Why is it a secret?"
"If the Verrat knew I existed they'd kill me and my mother." Kelly gasped softly.
"The Verrat consider mixing bloodlines of different species to be a violation of the natural order. The fact that my father is Royalty makes it much worse. Royal blood is pure and must remain pure at any cost. That's why you can't tell the Prince about the baby. You can't tell anyone."
A child who was half Royal and half Grimm would be even more of a target than a half Royal, half Hexenbiest. Hexenbiests were powerful Wesen, but still only Wesen. If Kelly's child inherited her Grimm legacy, he would be an enormous threat. A half-Royal, half Grimm would be extremely powerful, powerful enough to create huge ripples in the Wesen world. It wasn't something the stability-loving Verrat would tolerate.
"You think Philippe would kill me?" Sean shrugged. His father was impossible to understand and even harder to predict.
"I think he would turn you over in second if he thought there was something in it for him." She would have to leave Europe; the prince had too many connections here. She'd need to flee back to the United States and go into hiding. Philippe had spent too much time cultivating her as an asset to let her go without a fight.
"I already told him I was going to meet him for dinner. I said I had something I wanted to talk to him about." That couldn't happen. Even though Kelly knew she was being betrayed, she was still under the influence of Nicole's spell. Its effects appeared more prominent the closer she was to the prince, so Sean needed to make sure Kelly stayed as far away from him as possible.
"You can't go." Kelly nodded in assent.
"I'll write him a note telling him I'm sick." Sean glanced at the waste basket. It shouldn't be too difficult to convince Philippe Kelly was unwell with evidence so readily available.
"I'll do it. Just go back to your apartment and rest." Sean needed some time to think of a plan. Getting Kelly and his unborn brother to safety wouldn't be easy, but he would succeed. He had to.
Kelly walked to the door of Gym before turning back to look at him.
"I don't want to leave you here." He knew she wasn't just talking about exiting this room without him. Sean felt like someone was squeezing his heart, but he tried his best to ignore it. This wasn't the time to dwell, not when there was still so much to be done. He summoned a half smile to his face and shrugged.
"I live here."
Author's note: Congratulations to everyone who correctly predicted Sean and Nick were half-brothers! Sorry for the delay. I couldn't decide which chapter I wanted to write next. I'm happy I choose this one; it was scene that the rest of the story grew from. Please review!


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How do you book a customer who isn't getting married for 4years?! Yup I had someone who wants to book a cake for July of 2013!! I mean who does this? Anything could happen between now and then, heck I may not be doing this then, I will but really
Happy caking
I'd tell them to contact you a little nearer the time. I mean, who plans their wedding for 4 YEARS??!!! You're right, anything could happen. The most likely is that they won't be getting married at all. I imagine that the bride has badgered her boyfriend (or, to be fair, could be the other way around) into naming a date, which he has made as far in advance as possible. Can you even get a calendar that far in advance?!
I had an inquiry for .... check this date ... 11/11/11. I didn't even respond to it. There is no way to intelligently discuss pricing on cakes or catering 3 years in advance. It's a waste of time for everyone.
I might be dead by then, and hubby would have to figure out how to refund a deposit.
Oh My I would go batty if the woman I was going to marry had to have things that well planned.
I sent her an email telling her I can do it but to contact me again in a year or so. She hasn't responded back but I don't really need her to.
inydebi, I was thinking the same thing! How do I know i'll be alive then? or her for that matter!
Mike you are funny
I would have told her to contact me one year before the date - nothing sooner.
I'd tell them to contact you a little nearer the time. I mean, who plans their wedding for 4 YEARS??!!! You're right, anything could happen. The most likely is that they won't be getting married at all. I imagine that the bride has badgered her boyfriend (or, to be fair, could be the other way around) into naming a date, which he has made as far in advance as possible. Can you even get a calendar that far in advance?!
My brother and SIL had set their wedding date that early and had even asked me to do the cake that early. The only thing that changed was the design of the cake.
She was in college and worked in another town and planned her wedding on holidays and weekends. Their date was sit for the month after she graduated so she couldn't just wait until the last few months to plan things since she had very limited time in town and out of school.
Have her give you a non-refundable deposit and ask her to contact you one year out to set more details. You're right, they probably won't even still be together - but that's her problem not yours
Ok so I have another customer who is getting married in 2012 wanting to reserve a date! What the heck? do ppl really get engaged and wait this long to get married?
I'm going to tell her like the other bride to get back to me in 2011! shesh
Wow! As someone mentioned earlier, the chances of these people actually getting married are not that good. Are they afraid that you will be booked? So they've to book their date now? People are too funny!!
I have known a few peopl who waited this long to get married mainly because they were paying for the wedding themselves and didn't want to be in debt when they got married. Most of them are already living together and the wedding is more of a formality.
Indy - maybe your customer was just trying to avoid being turned down because of you being booked up on that date. Remember the 7/7/07 date? Lots of bakeries were booked up and had to turn people away because of so many wanting that same date. Maybe she could make a deposit and you could pencil her name in so that she wouldn't get turned down later on for not being the first (or one of the firsts) to ask. I'd certainly tell her that pricing couldn't be discussed this far in advance. Just a thought.
jammjenks, that is a good idea ... except my leads come in from various bridal sites and I have to pay anywhere from $1 to $5 each .... I didn't feel like paying $5.00 three years in advance to tell her "call me in three years".
If I get no-cost (blind) leads come in for future dates, I may just try your idea.
I don't book over 6 months ahead, why? Experience has teach me that brides get confused with so many tendencies and styles that they go back and foward over designs and prices, even after the contract had been signed, and then you have to start doing amendments to it and adjusting prices. also with the cost of living rising month to month you can't compromise a price per serving 3 years ahead.

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I use to listen to old books on tape or old music cassettes, it works ok if you don't expect great sound quality. It may have a little hum to it but I am okay with it. I like my old music selection and my old books and find it easy to use. Comes in handy when electric goes out, I just keep batteries on hand. They seem to last a good amount of time. You can use rechargeable if you want to. Radio is iffy, poor reception can only get a few channels but I only listen to a few. I get my local radio, some talk radio, some oldies, some newer, and for some unknown reason God channels come in very clear. Haha. I use the clip and it is nice to use around the house....
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Key additions
The 49ers signed four new starters for their abysmal defense. San Francisco made CB Nate Clements the highest-paid defensive player in the history of the game. Obviously, the 49ers are counting on him to be a difference maker, and he is fully capable. Safety Michael Lewis fell out of favor in Philadelphia, but he is productive near the line of scrimmage and the Niners will use him mostly in this capacity. San Francisco had a very difficult time generating a consistent pass rush last year, which is why it singed Tully Banta-Cain, who should start at outside linebacker. He isn't a high-end starter, but certainly is an upgrade over what the 49ers had last season. Although Aubrayo Franklin is not the ideal 3-4 nose tackle, he is a valuable addition nonetheless. Colby Bockwoldt will be a backup at inside linebacker, but he is an excellent special-teamer. On offense, the 49ers extended Gore's contract, which was a very wise move at this stage of his promising career. Ashley Lelie was signed and could present a deep threat, but he isn't to be counted on as anything more than a marginal No. 2 wideout. Punter and fullback are two positions that don't get a lot of ink, but San Francisco locked up Andy Lee and Moran Norris, two key members of this franchise who are very good at what they do.
The 49ers lost three good players in free agency, but none of them really fit into San Francisco's long-term plans. TE Eric Johnson signed with New Orleans. When healthy, he is a very good pass catcher and secondary receiver, but San Francisco spent a very high draft choice on the ultratalented Vernon Davis. Davis will be counted on in a huge way in 2007. Jeremy Newberry went to Oakland. He is another guy who cannot be counted on to stay healthy and the 49ers have young talent at center. DT Anthony Adams was recently signed by Chicago. He fits the Bears' upfield penetrating style much better than the 3-4 that San Francisco will employ. The 49ers also released Antonio Bryant, even though they are very thin at wide receiver. Nolan stresses character and no longer would put up with Bryant's attitude and off-the-field behavior. This sends a strong statement to the entire team.
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San Francisco spent a lot of money on defense, but the unit still has its share of holes. It could use one or two more defensive linemen, a free safety and possibly another inside linebacker and a pass-rushing outside linebacker. The 49ers also lack a true No. 1 wide receiver, which is a problem considering that Alex Smith is still a developing quarterback. Adding a young, developmental offensive tackle would also be wise. Are the 49ers an improved team? Without a doubt. Are they ready to challenge Seattle for the NFC West? Not yet.


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SAGECare Teaches Elder Care Providers the Importance of Fostering a Welcoming Community
By Sally Abrahms
FREE! The AARP Livable Communities e-Newsletter
That's troublesome for both individuals and society-at-large since an estimated three million LGBT adults in the United States are now age 65 or older, and that number is expected to double by 2030.
In 2010, the nonprofit Services and Advocacy for GLBT Elders — more commonly known as SAGE — was awarded a contract from the federal government to develop a national "cultural competency" training program (see box at right) for care providers who work with elderly LGBT clients.
The expansion of that program, SAGECare, now trains residential health care providers, government agencies that offer program funding, home health care and hospice companies, and nonprofits (including AARP and the Alzheimer's Association) that work with and advocate for older adults.
"When providers can understand the pervasive stigma and discrimination folks they're serving have lived through, it's a very powerful emotional lesson and truly eye-opening," says Hilary Meyer, founder of SAGECare. "It creates a sense of motivation to improve the care they provide."
Since the program's launch in 2011, more than 13,000 people — representing all 50 states — have received the training.
HOW SAGECare WORKS
Employees in senior care settings participate in trainings where they learn about the unique history and needs of LGBT older adults, hear personal stories and receive information about the legal rights of their clients. SAGE also shares best practices for fostering an LGBT-welcoming environment.
Among the training courses offered by SAGECare:
- "Creating Inclusive Communities for LGBT Older Adults"
- "LGBT Older Adults and Housing"
- "Transgender Aging: What Service Providers Need (and Don't Need) to Know"
- "Improving Aging Services for LGBT Older Adults"
- "The Psychosocial Needs of LGBT Veterans"
A Welcoming Home
The lobby of Town Hall Apartments in Chicago. — Image courtesy Town Hall Apartments/Heartland Alliance Housing
Several cities are working to provide affordable senior housing that, while open to all qualifying older adults, is promoted as being "LGBT-Welcoming." Typically established by private developers or public-private partnerships, these apartment buildings and complexes provide one of the many housing options needed for older adults and, in particular, older LBGT adults.
The courses are offered in-person or online. Fees vary, ranging from free (for organizations that receive grants) to about $800 for a one-hour training and $2,500 for four hours. Care agencies can earn a SAGECare national credential certifying that its employees have received sensitivity training.
Meyer says that after completing the SAGECare course, agencies have taken specific steps to be more sensitive to their LGBT clients and residents.
One simple strategy, she says, is to train staff in asking open-ended questions about a person's relationship status. For instance, rather than assuming someone is heterosexual or married, single or divorced, a staffer will say, "Tell me about the most important person in your life." Some senior communities now include sexual orientation and gender identity on intake forms.
SAGECare also suggests that training participants take a hard look at their websites and marketing materials to ensure that they're LGBT-welcoming. This can be achieved by including a photograph of a same-sex couple in a brochure or online, or by the type of programming that's offered, such as an LGBT support group.
"We have both qualitative and quantitative information showing that these trainings are making a difference," says Meyer. "Agencies tell us about concrete actions they've taken that have improved life for their clients. They're excited about what we're doing and understand why it's important."
SAGECare "GRADUATES"
By the end of 2016, more than 130 agencies had been SAGECare credentialed. The designation must be renewed annually.
Since 2013, The New Jewish Home, a large New York City-based geriatric care system, has required that everyone on staff, from the CEO to custodians, take the SAGECare training.
"Working with SAGE has increased our staff's awareness of the unique life experiences, needs and preferences of our LGBT residents and clients," says Tammy L. Marshall, chief experience officer for The New Jewish Home. "It's also broadened our understanding of the many other diverse populations we serve."
"Working with SAGE has increased our staff's awareness of the unique life experiences, needs and preferences of our LGBT residents and clients. It's also broadened our understanding of the many other diverse populations we serve."
— Tammy L. Marshall, chief experience officer at The New Jewish Home
As a result of the training and having a better understanding of the LGBT demographic, The New Jewish Home made changes, including the following:
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The march of the mini PCs continues, this time with a pumped-up little number from CompuLab.
We've already reported on the Fit-PC3, which forgoes the Atom and Tegra 2 of previous models in favor of AMD's APUs, but it's only now that full pricing has been divulged. You're looking at $328 for the cheapest barebones nettop, which includes the fan-less case, motherboard and a 1GHz single-core processor with integrated Radeon HD 6290 graphics. Sure, some rivals might be cheaper, but the Fit-PC3 has above-average connectivity, including USB 3.0 and eSATA ports, HDMI, DisplayPort and digital audio out, as well as gigabit Ethernet and mini-serial.
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Get the most out of your visit to Yokohama by experiencing traditional Japanese culture or exploring the unique tourism offerings of a port town.
Japanese cultural experiences
Yokohama offers plenty of opportunities to experience Japanese culture, including traditional culture and pop culture.
Learn about Japan's love for nature at one of the city's gardens or delve into the spiritual side of Japan by participating in the tea ceremony or Zen meditation or taking in a traditional performing art . You can also dress up in a traditional kimono and be transported to a bygone era as you explore the city by rickshaw.
Yokohama offers more than just traditional culture. It calls home to a number of truly unique museums, including food themed ones and others where you can enjoy internationally acclaimed Japanese anime.
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Take a walk in a Japanese garden containing a silk merchant's collection of historical buildings.
Try your hand at Zen meditation to avoid mental suffering and explore the tranquility around you.
Indulge in different types of hot springs while enjoying a great view of Minato Mirai 21.
Eat and compare ramen from all over Japan in a townscape replicating buildings from 1950's.
Take time to see a Noh theater performance, a classical form of Japanese musical drama originated in the 14th century.
Watch various types of Japanese comedic performing arts near Sakuragicho station.
Dress up in a kimono and soak up the atmosphere of the beautiful port town.
Explore the city by rickshaw while listening to a driver fills you in on the local history.
Paint on a package, choose your favorite toppings, and create your very own cup of instant noodles.
Yokohama Anpanman Children's Museum and Mall
Immerse yourself in the world of popular anime Anpanman.
Unique port town attractions
Yokohama offers a number of attractions unique to its port town identity. These include the city's symbolic tower, which was once Japan's tallest lighthouse and has watched over the city for the past half a century. If you look out to the sparkling harbor you will see Osanbashi Pier where you can see people relaxing on the rooftop park and taking in the grand sight of huge ocean liners docked there. Yokohama's nightscapes are also second to none. Both professional and amateur photographers alike flock here to capture the dazzling display of lights on one of the world's largest Ferris wheels and the stunning panoramas from the 69th floor of the Landmark Tower.
If you head a little further south to the Kanazawa area of the city you will find a huge theme park built atop an artificial island that houses Japan's largest aquarium, a lagoon teeming with marine life, as well as roller coasters and other exciting attractions.
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Yokohama International Passenger Terminal (Osanbashi Pier)
The Yokohama International Passenger Terminal, the leading port of call in Japan for cruise ships
69th floor Sky Garden at Yokohama Landmark Tower
Commanding views of the Greater Tokyo Area and even Mt. Fuji as well as dazzling nightscapes
The symbol of Yokohama keeping watch over the port for more than five decades that once was Japan's tallest lighthouse
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Beyond the Horizon(2007)
(A book in the Heartland Special series)
A novel by Lauren Brooke
Being away from Heartland has been anything but easy for Amy Fleming. The work at the horse sanctuary was her life for years. Now she is in a pre-vet program, and she has new challenges and new friends. Amy refuses to believe anything has changed.
Genre: Children's Fiction
Genre: Children's Fiction
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April 2007 : USA Library Binding
|Title: Beyond The Horizon (Turtleback School & Library Binding Edition) (Heartland Special)
Author(s): Lauren Brooke
ISBN: 0-7383-8353-8 / 978-0-7383-8353-8 (USA edition)
Publisher: Turtleback Books
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|Title: Heartland Special: Beyond the Horizon
Author(s): Lauren Brooke
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #15 on:
August 27, 2010, 09:23:02 AM »
Quote from: Merlin-PV on August 27, 2010, 08:25:26 AM
before you guys get your nose out of joint air pressure never got below 100 lbs 6 tank system air bags turned off air was for 100% braking witch if you pay attention to what you are doing you are ok, Luke was one of the many that said 6 weeks. can't spend 6 weeks in a rest area.
Your being lucky doesn't make everything all better now.
I'll bet that Luke didn't tell you to run 1200 miles using a Harbor Freight compressor.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #16 on:
August 27, 2010, 09:39:22 AM »
OK 1st off personally as long as Merlin had air pressure and kept a vigilant eye on the gauges, I see nothing wrong with using the auxiliary compressor to get off the road.
Not that I would recommend it to anyone, or even suggest it for liability reasons.
But we had a driver call me several yrs ago who told me "I just came off I-24 and the air pressure is not rebuilding like it normally does!"
I asked him how much pressure he had and he said "right @ 100 psi" I told him to find a safe place to park and I was on the way. I took another bus to him, and I had our clean up guy follow me in the truck with a generator and portable shop air compressor in the back.
Once I got to Paducah, KY (an hour away) I let the driver load his passengers on the bus I'd brought and go. Then Chuckie and I went to work determining the problem. Turned out that the crank in the compressor had broke and would not build air.
So I put the generator in one bay and the compressor in another and hooked into the air system at the ping tank drain.
Once the bus aired up, and I pumped the brakes until the air came down enough to set the alarm off and set the brakes. After I was satisfied that the air compressor would keep the air up, I drove it home about an hr away.
And yes it took a little time to get the replacement compressor from MN. not 6 weeks, but not the next day either. (thanks Craig!
Now I would not have driven it 1200 miles, or with passengers. But I did take my time and made it home without paying $800 for a wrecker or leaving it sit and having to replace the compressor in a Hardee's parking lot.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #17 on:
August 27, 2010, 11:19:58 AM »
I'll say this and then shut up. if the bus air compressor - the engine driven air compressor, not some 2 cfm hot-dog harbour freight compressor running off of a generator and hooked up with some jury rigged air line - if that engine driven compressor is out of service, the bus is out of service. It's illegal to drive it on public roads. BK, as a commercial operator I just flat out cannot believe that you would risk your drivers license and your business by running a illegal bus, passengers or not. I cannot imagine the magnitude of the fines if you had been caught, or the lawsuits if the jury rig had failed.
If by the silence on this issue the consensus of this forum is that running your bus on public roads on a jury rigged generator driven air compressor is just fine, then I have a big problem with that. As far as I am concerned, if the bus can't pass the minimum performance DOT mandatory air brake tests, then it is out of service. Out of service means it gets towed and fixed, end of story.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #18 on:
August 27, 2010, 12:47:51 PM »
1st off I didn't use a Harbor freight elcheapo 2 cfm compressor and I did not jury rig an airline!
I used a compressor that will run a 1" impact gun all day it came off a service truck. But I don't have the service truck trailer I am building set up with the compressor and welder/generator set up yet.
I used to drive class 8 tow trucks. Guess how we aired up buses and trucks to tow them?
We ran an airline into a tank or drain line with the same fitting & hose set up I used on my portable shop compressor!
If it's legal to to it that way, I see no issue with getting it off the road that way!
Just to make you happy I'll tell my local TN DOT officer how I did it, and ask what his stance on it is on it next time he stops in! (should be sometime in September)
I am not saying it's the way to run an air system up and down the road, but some of us don't want to leave our buses sitting 50 miles from home like you would.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #19 on:
August 27, 2010, 01:48:48 PM »
If you ran tow trucks then you know that a bus or anything else on the back of a wrecker, hence under the control of the wrecker, is completely different from the same bus driving under it's own control. Using extension lines to air up a bus so you can tow it is not at all the same as running a generator and a compressor to drive a bus.
But that's OK, it's obvious no one else agrees with me.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
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August 27, 2010, 04:38:59 PM »
The quietest air compressor I've found is a Makita single tank oil lubed. They are very high quality.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #21 on:
August 27, 2010, 04:58:33 PM »
AIR IS AIR. Not sure I would drive 1200 miles but would get air any way I could to get my bus SAFE off the road for me and the operating public as well. Give the Guy a break he did what he did so be it. Some vehicles are operating in worse condition I'm sure.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #22 on:
August 27, 2010, 05:29:16 PM »
Ah, a hot topic. Nice.
So, first I'd like to share that if it were me, my first choice would be to make all attempts at the proper repair before attempting an alternative repair. Since I don't fulltime, it is acceptable for me to have the bus towed to a facility where it can sit while parts arrive - but what if those parts were never again available? Do I scrap the bus in place?
With that said, I can understand (to an extent) operating on a standalone compressor.
My choice for an alternate repair would be to use the coach AC compressor drive belt to spin a high capacity air compressor head - but that is because I realize that a high volume electric air compressor would require a large electric draw.
By posting this I realize that I am opening myself up to criticism, which I am prepared to accept with no hurt feelings. So, don't hold back, as I am interested in hearing some opinions from both viewpoints along with some supporting logic and/or legal basis. I am of course referencing a hypothetical situation so edit those details as necessary to fit your arguement as opposed to the flaws of the hypothetical situation.
For example: Only drive with the OE compressor because...[no readily available compressor can possibly perform as well as the engine compressor?],[the law says so and even if it works it's still not ok].....
or It's ok to drive with a non OE compressor so long as it meets....[technical details here].
There seems to me that there is more knowledge that belongs to those here with a strong opinion than this newbie following logic is considering, and surely others finding this thread may find useful.
Thanks for humoring me.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #23 on:
August 27, 2010, 05:43:49 PM »
There are times that you need to take a chill pill Brian. Many of us are not blessed with your wealth and ability to pay for every over the top anal detail that you profess to. Give us a break! It does get old having someone think he's "Big Brother" watching over all of us. Many of us have something called "common sense". We do know how to limp back home and use our minds as to if it is safe or not. My advise to you would be to use some common sense yourself and stfu! You were not there. Off my soap box now.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #24 on:
August 27, 2010, 06:52:21 PM »
! BANG ! Again I think some of us need to drink a lot less coffee. Why are we so quick to ridicule each other? especially when the waters done gone over the dam already. I think that all of us at one point or another may have done things that we aren't proud of. But for one reason or another felt we needed to do it just the same. done is done, lesson learned, life goes on. This is a place to tell stories good or bad so we can gain from the experiences.Yes it was serious Yes he lived to tell . Just don't think we need these vibes here......slammin people just aint right....... thats the way you scare people off this forum .......come back again merlin-pv.......................s....................
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #25 on:
August 27, 2010, 08:29:20 PM »
not that i am saying i am for or against the idea being discussed here, but i have to ask...the spring brakes require air pressure in order to apply pressure to release the brake shoes and allow the bus to move. correct? so, when pressing on the brake pedal air is released from the system allowing the shoes to contact the drum and stop the vehicle. so, air is necessary to allow the vehicle to move...loose too much air and the vehicle will come to a stop. do i have this right so far? someone please set me straight if i am misunderstanding how the brakes operate. so then, if the temporary air supply fails wouldn't the bus soon come to a stop once the air pressure falls too low? I fail to see how using a TEMPORARY air supply could be any more dangerous then using the engine ran air supply. after all, the original problem was from a failure of the oem compressor. if the temporary air system failed i would just be back to square one...stopped on the side of the highway. low or no air pressure does not equal run away bus. if i have a tire blow out on the interstate would i be expected to have the bus towed to a tire shop to have a new tire installed? would it be considered 'irresponsible' to put the spare on and drive to the tire shop if the spare was not the exact same tire as the one that blew? before anyone jumps on the band wagon over that last comment...literally thousands of cars are produced with spare tires that are not the same as the regular drive tires. thought i would throw that in there.
ok, so i guess maybe i am saying i don't see the big problem with what he did. can't say that i would have went 1200 miles that way, but i don't see where the danger was in what he did. how is what he did any more dangerous than running with the oem compressor?
i would also be interested to see the dot regulation that states it is illegal to drive with a temporary air supply. not saying it don't believe there is one because i am sure there is...i am just curious as to how it is written.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #26 on:
August 27, 2010, 08:44:33 PM »
When I lost my air pressure suddenly (as mentioned earlier in this thread) I was at the top of a 7% grade that had a sign to "check brakes" with a turn out imediately up a little ways on the crest of the hill following the sign. When I applied my brakes I imediately lost nearly all of my air pressure and then I coasted into the turn out. My spring brakes did work as I used them when the bus came to a rest, but my regular brakes had lost nearly all stopping power.
I want to thank Merlin for telling the story about the compressor actually working in a situation where the main compressor went out. I will remember the story and in the future it may save my kids and I from being stranded in the middle of nowhere with no cell phone service or any other choice! Thank you, it is another "out of the box" thinking thing!
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #27 on:
August 28, 2010, 04:08:14 AM »
I have a brake application pressure gauge on our MC-8. A normal stop requires about 10-15 PSI, a hard stop rarely exceeds 30-35 PSI. A panic stop hits about 50-60. Total volume of brake cans and lines probably does not exceed 2 cu.ft. So even a small compressor should be able to keep up as long as you stay aware, watch your gauges and are not in the mountains. I would not recommend this for normal use, but to get to a repair facilty. Jack
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #28 on:
August 28, 2010, 05:00:09 AM »
I dunno, had I been in a similar situation I suspect I'd probably look for pretty much the same solution to get me home or at least to a safe place. Not sure about the 1200 miles but that's a personal decision based on several factors, I wasn't there. I personally don't trust most H.F tools though.
As far as I'm concerned, air really is air and the bus couldn't care less where it comes from as long as it gets what it needs when it needs it. As long as I trusted my power source, my air source and the interconnecting lines then I'd do what I needed to in order to carefully limp off to a safer and better place. Especially if family were on board. Who knows, if it tested out to be be holding well then maybe I too would push it a bit. Just because the air doesn't come from a giant compressor with my bus' brand name on it doesn't mean that it's any less reliable or less than up to the task. Does your car only run if it has fuel from Sinclair and no other?
I think the key here is caution, listening carefully and watching the gauges closely. Any deviation and I'd be out of there and off the road!
I once had a throttle cable snap on a Fiat Spyder I owned after I put a Weber dual carb setup on. So I'm broken down on the side of I-80 and no way to apply fuel to the car and get home and it's about 101 degrees outside. I managed to put a pair of mini vice grips on the end that snapped and drove home. After replacing the cable which snapped again, several times (I never could find a valid reason for the stop on that end to snap though I suspected the added tension of the second carb linkage was the culprit), I left the vise grips on and they worked for years and years, with never a slip or disconnect, nada, ever! They were there when I sold the car to a guy I knew and he used it as-is for as long as I knew he had the car, yes I pointed out the vise grips and even gave him a new cable with the guarantee that it too would snap soon. We used to chuckle about those vice grips being on the car for so long.
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Re: electric air compressor tied into air system on bus
Reply #29 on:
August 28, 2010, 06:48:11 AM »
I must agree with others that with knowledge, prudence, patience you can safely travel with a supplemental air compressor & a failed engine air comp. I am sure that one will guard that air pressure gauge like never before, or since.
I still chuckle at the FAA ferry permits which we can secure to move a semi damaged airplane to a repair facility. One was a while back, a Mooney on climb out of Atlantic City took on a flock of geese & subsequent geese pooh thru the windshield. The pilot, dazed & stunned, thankfully made it back to Bader Field. Next day a pilot from Trenton flys in with a beat up windshield, grey tapes it over the broken one, and blasts off to Trenton in the damaged Mooney.
Not recommended, but he knew his limits.
I surely would not have done the same, but.
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