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|Oct 19, 1995
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|David H. Judson
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|David H. Judson
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This application is a continuation of prior copending application Ser. No. 09/055,726, filed Apr. 6, 1998, now U.S. Pat. No. 6,185,586, which application was a continuation of Ser. No. 08/708,795, filed Sep. 9, 1996, now U.S. Pat. No. 5,737,619, which application was a continuation-in-part of prior application Ser. No. 08/543,876, filed Oct. 19, 1995, now U.S. Pat. No. 5,572,643.
1. Technical Field
This invention relates generally to computer networks and more particularly to methods for enhancing the operation of a client browser operating in a multi-server computer environment.
2. Description of the Related Art
The worldwide network of computers commonly known as the "Internet" has seen explosive growth in the last several years. Mainly, this growth has been fueled by the introduction and widespread use of so-called "web" browsers, which allow for simple graphical user interface (GUI)-based access to network servers, which support documents formatted as so-called "web pages". The "World Wide Web" (WWW) is that collection of servers of the Internet that utilize the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP). HTTP is a known application protocol that provides users access to files (which can be in different formats such as text, graphics, images, sound, video, etc.) using a standard page description language known as Hypertext Markup Language (HTML). HTML provides basic document formatting and allows the developer to specify "links" to other servers and files. Use of an HTML-compliant client browser involves specification of a link via a Uniform Resource Locator or "URL". Upon such specification, the client makes a tcp/ip request to the server identified in the link and receives a "web page" (namely, a document formatted according to HTML) in return.
There is a finite time period between the time the user initiates the link and the return of the web page. Even when the web page is returned quickly, there is an additional time period during which formatting information must be processed for display on the display interface. For example, most web browsers display in-line image takes time to process and slows downs the initial display of the document. The user typically "sees" an essentially unrecognizable "image" on the display screen which only gradually comes into focus. It is only after the entire image is downloaded from the server and then processed by the browser that the user can fully access the web page itself. This "waiting" period is even longer when the client machine has a relatively slow modem, and often the user will have to wait many seconds before being able to see the in-line image and/or begin using the web page. This problem will be exacerbated when the next generation browser technology (such as Netscape Navigator 2.0) becomes more widely implemented because such browsers are being designed to handle much more complex download formats (for more interactive, dynamic displays).
It is thus a primary object of the invention to enhance the operation of a web browser by causing the display of some useful information to the user during the period of user "downtime" that otherwise occurs between linking and downloading of a hypertext document identified by the link. Such information may include, without limitation, advertisements, messages, fill-in forms, notices from a service provider, notices from another Internet service (such as receipt of an e-mail message), or some third party notice.
It is another more particular object of the invention to use an Hypertext Markup Language comment (e.g., via an HTML comment tag) in a web page to store an information object related to a link and then formatting and displaying such information when the link is activated.
It is still another object of the invention to embed an information object within an existing web page so that the object is masked until a link to another web page is activated. Upon activation, the object is displayed to the user effectively as a "mini" web page while the browser calls the link and awaits for a reply and download.
For example, in one particular embodiment, the information object includes copyright management information for a hypertext document associated with a link in a currently-displayed page. Such information may include the name or other identifying information of a copyright owner, terms and conditions for uses of the work within the hypertext document, and such other information as may be prescribed or desired. When the user "hits" the link in the current page, the copyright management information (which is already present in the browser) is displayed as the new document is being accessed and downloaded. The copyright management information, for example, may inform the user of the terms and conditions of how the copyrighted content being downloaded can then be reused. The "time" period normally associated with the download is thus productive for both the user (since he or she no longer has to sit and wait for the display) as well as to the content provider.
According to the preferred embodiment, there is described a method of browsing the World Wide Web of the Internet using an HTML-compliant client supporting a graphical user interface and a browser. The method begins as a web page is being displayed on the graphical user interface, the web page having at least one link to a hypertext document preferably located at a remote server. In response to the user clicking on the link, the link is activated by the browser to thereby request downloading of the hypertext document from the remote server to the graphical user interface of the client. While the client waits for a reply and/or as the hypertext document is being downloaded, the browser displays one or more different types of informational messages to the user. Such messages include, without limitation, advertisements, notices, messages, fill-in forms, copyright information and the like. Preferably, the message information is in some way related to the hypertext document being accessed and downloaded, as in the case of copyright management information perhaps warning the user that the material being downloaded is subject to certain use restrictions of the copyright owner. Where the displayed information is related to the link, it is desirable that such information be embedded within the web page from which the link is launched. The information is preferably "hidden" within the web page using a hypertext markup comment tag.
The invention is preferably implemented in a computer having a processor, an operating system, a graphical user interface and a HTTP-compliant browser. In such case, the novel and advantageous features of the invention are achieved using a first means, responsive to activation of a link from a web page, for retrieving an information object masked within the web page, and a second means for displaying information from the information object on the graphical user interface as the browser establishes the link. Preferably, the information object is masked by an HTML comment tag, which may include other HTML tags nested therein to format the information in the object. This enables the support of complex "mini" web pages that are displayed and accessible to the viewer during otherwise non-productive periods when the browser is busy processing links to other documents or web sites.
The foregoing has outlined some of the more pertinent objects of the present invention. These objects should be construed to be merely illustrative of some of the more prominent features and applications of the invention. Many other beneficial results can be attained by applying the disclosed invention in a different manner or modifying the invention as will be described. Accordingly, other objects and a fuller understanding of the invention may be had by referring to the following Detailed Description of the preferred Embodiment.
For a more complete understanding of the present invention and the advantages thereof, reference should be made to the following Detailed Description taken in connection with the accompanying drawings in which:
FIG. 1 illustrates a computer network in which the present invention is implemented;
FIG. 2 illustrates a client computer supporting an HTML-compliant World Wide Web browser;
FIG. 3 is a flowchart diagram of a preferred method of the present invention for dynamic display of an information object during linking;
FIG. 4 is a representative graphical user interface illustrating browser navigation tools;
FIG. 5 is a representative web page illustrating a hypertext link;
FIG. 6 is a view of the HTML source code for the web page of FIG. 5;
FIG. 7 is an example of a modified version of the HTML source code for the web page illustrated in FIG. 5, showing an information object embedded therein through a comment tag;
FIG. 8 is a representative screen display illustrating how the information object appears as a "mini" web page upon activation of the hypertext link in the web page of FIG. 5;
FIG. 9 illustrates a computer program product comprising a substrate in which product data is encoded for carrying out various function of the invention when the product is used to control a processor;
FIG. 10 illustrates a portion of the computer network in which this invention is implemented having a master server for use in distributing information objects to a plurality of servers that support hypertext documents; and
FIG. 11 illustrates a preferred method of downloading an information object to a client computer to facilitate pre-caching of the object.
As represented in FIG. 1, the Internet is a known computer network based on the client-server model. Conceptually, the Internet comprises a large network of "servers" 10 which are accessible by "clients" 12, typically users of personal computers, through some private Internet access provider 14 (such as Internet America) or an on-line service provider 16 (such as America On-Line, Prodigy, Compuserve, the Microsoft Network, and the like). Each of the clients may run a "browser," which is a known software tool used to access the servers via the access providers. A server 10 operates a so-called "web site" which supports files in the form of documents and pages. A network path to a server is identified by a so-called Uniform Resource Locator or URL having a known syntax for defining a network connection.
The "World Wide Web" (WWW) is that collection of servers of the Internet that utilize the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP). HTTP is a known application protocol that provides users access to files (which can be in different formats such as text, graphics, images, sound, video, etc.) using a standard page description language known as Hypertext Markup Language (HTML). HTML provides basic document formatting and allows the developer to specify "links" to other servers and files. Use of an HTML-compliant client browser involves specification of a link via the URL. Upon such specification, the client makes a tcp/ip request to the server identified in the link and receives a "web page" (namely, a document formatted according to HTML) in return.
FIG. 2 shows a block diagram of a representative "client" computer in which the present invention is implemented. The system unit 21 includes a system bus or plurality of system buses 31 to which various components are coupled and by which communication between the various components is accomplished. The microprocessor 32 is connected to the system bus 31 and is supported by read only memory (ROM) 33 and random access memory (RAM) 34 also connected to system bus 31. The ROM 33 contains among other code the Basic Input-Output system (BIOS) which controls basic hardware operations such as the interaction and the disk drives and the keyboard. The RAM 34 is the main memory into which the operating system and application programs are loaded. The memory management chip 35 is connected to the system bus 31 and controls direct memory access operations including, passing data between the RAM 34 and hard disk drive 36 and floppy disk drive 37. The CD ROM 42, also coupled to the system bus 131, is used to store a large amount of data, e.g., a multimedia program or large database.
Also connected to this system bus 31 are various I/O controllers: the keyboard controller 38, the mouse controller 39, the video controller 40, and the audio controller 41. The keyboard controller 38 provides the hardware interface for the keyboard 22, the controller 39 provides the hardware interface for the mouse (or other point and click device) 23, the video controller 40 is the hardware interface for the display 24, and the audio controller 41 is the hardware interface for the multimedia speakers 25 a and 25 b. A modem 50 enables communication over a network 56 to other computers over the computer network.
The operating system 60 of the computer may be DOS, WINDOWS 3.x, WINDOWS '95, OS/2, AIX, or any other known and available operating system, and each computer is sometimes referred to as a machine. RAM 34 also supports a number of Internet access tools including, for example, the HTTP-compliant web browser 62. Known browser software includes Netscape, Netscape Navigator 2.0, Mosaic, and the like. The present invention is designed to operate within any of these known or developing web browsers, which are preferably modified as described herein to achieve the dynamic display of information objects during web site linking activities. RAM 34 may also support other Internet services including simple mail transfer protocol (SMTP) or e-mail, file transfer protocol (FTP), network news transfer protocol (NNTP) or "Usenet", and remote terminal access (Telnet).
HyperText Markup Language uses so-called "tags," denoted by the <> symbols, with the actual tag between the brackets. Most tags have a beginning (<tag>) and an ending section, with the end shown by the slash symbol (</tag>). There are numerous link tags in HTML to enable the viewer of the document to jump to another place in the same document, to jump to the top of another document, to jump to a specific place in another document, or to create and jump to a remote link (via a new URL) to another server. Links are typically displayed on a web page in color or with an underscore. In response to the user pointing and clicking on the link, the link is said to be "activated" to begin the download of the linked document or text. For more details on HTML, the reader is directed to the HTML Reference Manual, published by Sandia National Laboratories, and available on the Internet at "http://www.sandia.gov/sci_compute/html.ref.html" or the HTML Quick Reference, published by the University of Kansas, and available on the Internet at "http://kuhttp.cc.ukans.edu/lyna_help/HTML_quick.html". Each of these publications are incorporated herein by reference.
A known HTML tag is a "comment," which typically allows a web page developer to include text that is to be ignored by the browser. The syntax for a "comment" tag is denoted <!--text-->. HTML is an evolving language. Recent standards for new versions of this language propose to add SGML comment syntax to HTML elements. This proposal would begin a comment with a double dash encountered inside any HTML element (but no inside quotes), and treat every thing as comments (including any "", "", or quote character) until the next occurring double dash. Such syntax allows HTML elements within a comment.
According to the present invention, an information "object" is preferably placed within a comment tag of a web page and thus is "ignored" by the browser in the formatting of the document then being displayed. This information object, however, is also saved to a separate file or cache within the client. A particular web page may have multiple information objects, with one or more objects associated with one or more links in the documents. Thus, for example, if the document has two links, one information object is associated with the first link and a second information object is associated with a second link, and so on. Or, multiple information objects may be associated with a single link. Or, the information object(s) may have no direct relation to the content of any link in the document. While in the preferred embodiment an HTML "comment" tag is used to mask the information object, those skilled in the art will recognize that other HTML commands and tags may be used for this purpose as well, including, for example, a tag dedicated to masking an information object within the currently-displayed page. For example, an information object may be hidden within a clickable image identified with an is map tag. Also, an information object may be formatted as a "mini" web page by nesting HTML elements within a particular HTML comment tag.
As noted above, a web browser 62 running on the client uses a TCP/IP connection to pass a request to a web server running a HTTP "service" (under the WINDOWS operating system) or "daemon" (under the UNIX operating system). The HTTP service then responds to the request, typically by sending a "web page" formatted in the Hypertext Markup Language, or HTML, to the browser. The browser then displays the web page using local resources (e.g., fonts and colors).
A preferred operation of the inventive method is illustrated in the flowchart of FIG. 3. The method begins at step 70 as a current web page is being displayed on the graphical user interface of the computer. It is assumed that this web page has embedded therein one or more comment tags, each of which (or perhaps several of which in combination) define an information object. Generally, although not required, each information object will be provided for one or more links in the web page being displayed. However, because the information object is embedded within a comment tag, it is hidden or "masked" and thus is ignored by the display routines of the browser. In step 72, the method saves or stores the information object in memory or some dedicated portion of the RAM (e.g., a cache) so that it may be easily and quickly obtained. At step 74, a test is made to determine whether a link associated with the information object has been activated. If so, the method continues at step 76 and issues a tcp/ip request to the network (assuming the link was to a URL). Step 78 represents the handshaking period during which the client waits for the appropriate response from the server. During this period, the client retrieves the information object (at step 80) and outputs the information (in step 82) to the user on the display. Steps 80 and 82 are shown in parallel to the handshaking and wait step 78 to emphasize the inventive concept of displaying useful information to the viewer during the link process. At step 84, a test is then performed to determine whether the download and refresh of the display is complete. If so, the routine saves the information object at step 86 and opens up access to the hypertext document at step 88.
FIG. 4 shows the browser navigation tool prior to download of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office page (available at http://www.uspto.gov). FIG. 5 shows the web page as it exists on the display. This web page has various links including "Welcome to the United States Patent and Trademark Office." FIG. 6 shows the HTML source code used to generate the web page of FIG. 5, and FIG. 7 shows this source code modified to include an information object 75 within a comment tag. This object displays the message "The PTO Welcomes You" when the "Welcome to the United States Patent and Trademark Office" link is activated. FIG. 8 shows the effect of this information object when the routine of FIG. 3 is carried out.
Although the invention has been described in terms of a preferred embodiment, those skilled in the art will recognize that various modifications of the invention can be practiced within the spirit and scope of the appended claims. Thus, for example, the information supplied to the user during the period between link activation and downloading of the hypertext document need not be merely a visual output. It is also envisioned that some or all parts of a particular message be conveyed to the user aurally (via a multimedia speaker set, for example) as well as on the display screen. The message itself may be retained on the screen as an in-line image or other text along with the downloaded hypertext document, and the browser includes appropriate means to queue the message to print and/or to save the message or allow the user to compose a response to the message. One such technique for responding to the message uses the HTML "fill-in" form tags. The browser may be suitably programmed to queue the mini web page for background printing whenever the link is activated.
Moreover, although in the preferred embodiment it is envisioned that the hypertext document (associated with the web page link) is located on a remote server, this is not a limitation of the invention. The display of informational messages may be effected whenever a link is activated, regardless of the location of the target document. Also, while the preferred embodiment has been described in the context of an Internet browser, the techniques of the invention apply whether or not the user accesses the Worldwide Web via a direct Internet connection (namely using an Internet access provider) or indirectly through some on-line service provider (such as America On-Line, Prodigy, Compuserve, the Microsoft Network, or the like). Thus the "computer network" in which the invention is implemented should be broadly construed to include any client-server model from which a client can link to a "remote" document (even if that document is available on the same machine or system).
It should also be appreciated that while in the preferred embodiment the information object is formatted and displayed upon activation of a link in a web page being currently displayed, this is not a limitation of the invention either. The information object need not be embedded within an existing web page, but rather may be embedded within the home page of the browser or supported elsewhere within the client itself. Thus, the information object may be displayed whenever a call to a web page is made, such as when a search to a particular URL is initiated, or when a previously-stored URL is launched (e.g., from a "View Bookmark" pull-down menu). Moreover, the client may store random information objects in the form of information advertisements (which in turn may include .gif files to produce images) so that the browser may call any such information at random. The browser may even be programmed to select which of the plurality of information objects to display based on a comparison of the type of web pages accessed by the user. Thus, for example, if the user accesses web pages relating to a particular service, the browser may be programmed to identify this access history and select predetermined information objects that will be of interest to the user (given that history).
The information objects may themselves be HTML "fill-in" forms that are retained on the display screen and may be filled in with information that the browser can then deliver back to some third party service provider. This enables the information objects to be used as mini survey forms for interactive, on-line surveys and the like, which would be especially advantageous for web site providers or other third parties. The information object may include its own embedded link so that the user can link to another URL directly from the object itself. Thus, for example, where the object is an advertisement, a user could read the ad and then hyperlink to the web page of the company that sponsors the ad.
As noted above, the information object may be automatically or selectively queued to the client printer upon display. This would enable the viewer to generate merchandise coupons and the like related to the web page being accessed. Thus the web site provider could offer the viewer some added incentive for accessing its web page by causing the printing of a redeemable coupon or other information token (e.g., a discount card, a receipt, etc.). All of these actions are initiated during the otherwise downtime between web page access and download, thereby significantly increasing the value of the on-line informational content provided to the user.
As used herein, the "information object" or "information" output to the viewer during the link process should be broadly construed to cover any and all forms of messages, notices, text, graphics, sound, video, tables, diagrams, applets and other content, and combinations of any of the above.
One of the preferred implementations of the "browser" of the invention is as a set of instructions in a code module resident in the random access memory of the user's personal computer. Until required by the computer, the set of instructions may be stored in another computer memory, for example, in a hard disk drive, or in a removable memory such as an optical disk (for eventual use in a CD ROM) or floppy disk (for eventual use in a floppy disk drive). As seen in FIG. 9, for example, the invention may be implemented as a computer program product comprising a computer-readable storage medium 90 having a substrate 92, and program data 94 encoded on the substrate. The program data 94 implements various means for carrying out the above-described functions. The medium 90 may be a separate physical media such as a CD-ROM or floppy diskette, or it may comprise the client computer's hard drive, cache or other available memory, as would be the case if the program data or portions thereof are downloaded via the Internet.
In addition, although the various methods described are conveniently implemented in a general purpose computer selectively activated or reconfigured by software, one of ordinary skill in the art would also recognize that such methods may be carried out in hardware, in firmware, or in more specialized apparatus constructed to perform the required method steps.
The present invention is designed to be implemented with conventional HTML and enhancements thereto (including HTML 2.0, HTML 3.0, HTML with third party-supplied extensions such as NHTML, and the like), by an HTML-compliant browser, such as Netscape, Netscape Navigator 2.0, Mosaic, MSN, as such existing or developed programs are modified to include the functionality of the invention described above. The functionality may be built into the browser or added as a plug-in. Netscape Navigator 2.0 has in-line support for platform-independent application objects (e.g., applets written in Java, from Sun Microsystems). An applet resides on the server associated with a web page and is downloaded to the client browser after a link is established to the web page. The browser includes an engine for executing the downloaded applets. With this type of browser, the invention caches or otherwise stores a downloaded applet and later uses it, preferably when a new, related link is established. Thus, an "information object" according to the invention may include an applet which, for example, may generate an animated figure or icon, some aural output, a scrolling display, or a combination thereof. One of ordinary skill, however, will recognize that the inventive features of the invention, including the masking of "mini" hypertext documents within a web page and display of such documents upon link activation, may be applied to other Internet services as well as to HTTP compliant browsers. Thus, the invention would be useful to provide information to a user during an FTP access, an on-line chat, a posting to a bulletin board, or even during the sending and retrieval of e-mail. All such variations are considered within the scope of the invention.
FIG. 10 illustrates how information objects (e.g., product/service advertisements) may be distributed to one or more servers in the computer network, and FIG. 11 illustrates a preferred technique for downloading a hypertext document (with its associated information object) to the client machine. Turning initially to FIG. 10, a server 100 provides various control functions and includes an associated information warehouse 102, which is preferably configured as a physically secure electronic repository for the storage of product/service descriptions and associated data. Server 100 may be controlled by an entity that contracts with one or more product/service providers 104 who desire to advertise their products or services through the information objects Entities 104 provide the advertisements, or descriptions and data used to create the advertisements, to the information warehouse preferably in an electronic manner. The information warehouse then electronically delivers the advertisements to one or more of the web servers 106 at which hypertext documents are supported. Advertisements can thus be "refreshed" or updated at any time or at regular intervals irrespective of whether the hypertext documents supported on web servers 106 change. Information objects may then be stored in the web server 106 in a dedicated area or directly embedded or associated with particular hypertext documents stored there.
An information object may include high bandwidth content including high resolution graphics, audio and video. In some instances then, the object may be relatively large in size such that "in-lining" the object an embedded link (e.g., within an HTML comment tag) may not be the most efficient way of downloading. In such case, it will be desirable (although not required) to store the information object in the web server 106 separate from any particular hypertext document so that the object may be downloaded to the client machine (with a hypertext document) by being "appended" at the distal or "backend" of the hypertext document that may be used to bring the object down to the client machine. (Of course, as noted above, information objects may be stored at the client machine in other ways besides being brought down by hypertext documents). This technique is illustrated in FIG. 11.
The method begins at step 110 by downloading a first (or "source") hypertext document (which then becomes the "current web page" within the context of FIG. 3). This document includes an associated information object, such as an advertising graphic that will be associated with some user-selectable display graphic (e.g., a link) in the first hypertext document. At step 112, the browser at the client machine displays at least a portion of the first hypertext document (e.g., introductory text) while the download of the document (and the information object) continues at step 114 as a background process. By "background process," it is meant that the process goes on without being directly or indirectly apparent to the user. This ensures that the user can begin browsing the first hypertext document irrespective of whether the download of the information object is complete. At step 116, the routine continues by storing the information object in a storage of the client machine (e.g., a dedicated cache) as the user browses the first hypertext document. This technique ensures that delivery of relatively large information objects does not otherwise slow down the browsing session. To complete the routine, the user activates the user-selectable clickable graphic at step 118 to link to a second (or "target") hypertext object. As discussed above, this retrieves the information object for display on the client interface as the new link is established. This is step 120.
Under some circumstances, it may be desirable to download the first hypertext document completely and then download the information object separately (e.g., after a time delay), again preferably as a background process. In this manner, the user would not be directly aware that the information object was downloaded as he or she would be browsing the first hypertext document in the foreground. As far as the user is concerned, the first hypertext document is wholly "present" in the client (and is displayed), even though some of the information object is still being downloaded. Thus, as used herein, the concept of "appending" the information object to a hypertext document should be broadly construed to cover both the direct attachment of the object to the document (either directly or otherwise) as well as the serial transmission of the document and then the object (even if there is some finite time delay between such transmissions).
Delaying the download of the information object in this fashion can be advantageous, especially in the situation where the user receives the first hypertext document but then quickly decides to proceed to a URL that is not associated with a link in the document or to link to another URL (in the displayed document) that does not have an associated information object. In either case, the object would not be downloaded at all because the link with which it is associated would not be activated. Thus, it may be desirable to build in a fixed time delay between downloading of the first hypertext document and the information object(s) associated therewith so that if one or more predetermined events occur at the browser (with respect the document), no object download takes place.
Alternatively, information objects may be conveniently downloaded to the browser whenever there is "idle" time during the connection between the client and a server. Thus, an information object need not be appended to a hypertext document at all, but merely downloaded to the client during a period when the user is browsing the current page. Information objects downloaded in this manner are preferably stored in cache in a background process and may or may not be associated with a particular link in the current page. Upon link activation or some other event, however, an object is displayed to the user to provide seamless browsing.
Having thus described my invention, what I claim as new and desire to secure by Letters Patent is set forth in the following claims:
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SAVANNAH, Ga. — Calvary Day's prolific passing offense has grabbed the attention of high school football fans across the state — and with good reason as quarterback Michael Peterson has thrown for nearly 3,000 yards with 40 touchdown passes this year.
But opposing defenses need to consider the Cavalier running game as well. The tandem of junior Robert Heyward and senior Derek Kirkland has been piling up yards and putting points on the board — forcing opponents to respect a balanced offense.
The Cavaliers plan to put that offense on display when they kick off Friday at 2:30 p.m. against Aquinas for the GHSA Class A Private School championship at the Georgia Dome.
"With the spread we run, we've had a lot of one-back stuff lately, and Robert (Heyward) has been our guy back there," Calvary Day coach Mark Stroud said. "He's a relentless runner. He's tough to tackle cause he'll run right through people. He's a physical back who has some speed, and he can also catch the ball."
Heyward has reeled off five 100-yard rushing games in a row. He has 1,288 yards on the season, averaging 9.54 yards per carry, with nine rushing touchdowns. He has 23 catches for 465 yards with six receiving touchdowns.
"Our offensive line has been opening up a lot of holes for me," said Heyward, who had a season-high 25 attempts for 124 yards and a touchdown in a semifinal overtime win over Eagle's Landing Christian last week. "And our passing game helps out a lot because the defense is forced to spread out. I've improved at reading my blocks, and our receivers have done a great job with their downfield blocking."
Kirkland has also been a productive offensive weapon with 606 rushing yards and 13 touchdowns to go along with 33 catches for 586 yards and nine more scores.
"Everything is opening up because of our passing game," Kirkland said. "Defenses can't stack it up at the line to stop the run."
A solid offensive line has been a key as the Cavaliers have won 11 in a row. Brad Butler (LT), Jacob Mock (LG), Alex Herndon (C), Tripp Pearson (RG) and Michael Strong (RT) comprise a unit that has paved the way for a ground attack averaging 180 yards per game (the Cavs average 232 yards per contest through the air).
So would the big boys up front rather run the ball or pass?
"I'd rather run block because it gives you a chance to be more physical and offensive linemen always like that," said Pearson, a 6-foot-3, 270-pound senior. "We've done well running the ball because we have a good blocking scheme with some great blockers on our line. And Robert (Heyward) and Derek (Kirkland) know how to run the ball."
Last week, Heyward scored the go-ahead touchdown on a short run in overtime, and Dan Hatch's extra point gave the Cavs a seven-point lead. Eagle's Landing scored a touchdown on its first possession, then decided to go for the win with a two-point conversion. Nose tackle Andre Wilson made the tackle that ended the game and earned the Cavaliers their first trip to the Dome.
"We weren't nervous in the huddle, everyone knew we had to make a stop," Wilson said. "Now we're all excited about getting a chance to play in our first state championship game, but we have to approach it like it's just a regular game."


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Eurasia Blog Wednesday Devotion: Stumbling Stone
Wed, Aug 27, 2014
…as it is written, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense; and whoever believes in Him will not be put to shame" (Romans 9:33 ESV).
A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense is not often how we think of Jesus. But Paul says He is those things, and that God Himself laid this stone right in the midst of His people. This stone of stumbling and rock of offense breaks down all that God's people of old thought He was. To a people depending on their own righteousness — on their performance of the law, their better sacrifices, their rituals, and their goodness — Jesus Christ and Him crucified is nothing other than a cause for complete confusion and even mockery.
And the rock laid by God in Zion still causes offense and stumbling. To some in the world it appears strange and laughable. Once, when the mission house Die Brücke first opened in Leipzig, Germany, an older German man walked in, saw the crucifix, laughingly pointed it out, and incredulously asked the pastor, "You believe in that?" A dead God, a God who hangs on a cross. Foolishness, indeed.
To some in the world, confident in their own righteousness, the stone is one of stumbling in just the same way as it was for the Jews about whom Paul wrote. They are basically "good people." They have nothing to worry about, no need for a God who comes in to rescue with a strange and bloody death on a cross. They rely on themselves and their righteous deeds, their Law-bound obedience, their ability to be pretty good. They give to charity, stop and help their neighbor, are nice to those around them. Some of them are even nicer than those Christians they know, anyway. Obviously, their righteousness will get them where they need to go in this life and beyond. There's no need for any help on that count.
To some in the world, their religion of law is their comfort and their confidence. They follow the rules, complete every ritual. They hand out pamphlets, keep the law, show their dedication to their deity through various means, enact all the necessary actions. After all, this is what is required. They have done enough. They are righteous in their own right and have no need of Christ Jesus and Him crucified.
All of these may laugh and scoff at we Baptized who know our sinfulness and from whence our true righteousness comes. They may try to tell us that we must DO more and BE more. Perhaps they outright scorn a dead God. But Paul promises that those who believe in this rock of stumbling, this stone of offense, will not be put to shame! Why? Because this rock of stumbling, this stone of offense, is Jesus Christ, dead and raised for the forgiveness of all of our sins. And when the Last Day comes, and the self-righteous, the mockers and the scoffers have spent all the energy they have, it is the Baptized who will follow their Lord, their Rock, through death into the resurrected life.
Let us Pray: Lord Jesus Christ, You are a stumbling block for many, we pray, dear Lord, that all would be brought to see You not as a stone of stumbling or a rock of a offense, but as their Lord and Savior. Help us to cling to You, our Rock, and to proclaim You to all those around us, so that all may be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth; in Your name we pray, Amen.
- Read last week's devotion here.
- Pray for all those who trust in their own righteousness or in false gods, that they may be brought to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.
- Learn more about the work of Die Brücke in Leipzig.
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Analogue Day Activity: Write a handwritten memo or essay.written by plasticpopsicle on 2013-03-21
These days, for anything that requires us to take down notes or make memos, we just whip out a laptop or head over to the computer to type them away. Of course, it hasn't always been that easy, because people used to write notes, memos, notices, letters, and manuscripts by hand all the time!4 Share Tweet
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Does anyone still send postcards to friends or family while on travel? Pictures on postcards are always taken of tourist attractions. You may often have thought these weren't special enough to be featured. Though, now you can create your own postcards in a jiffy! Learn how after the jump!2 1 Share Tweet


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Hardware purge is the effective, hardware-based erasure of all data blocks in flash memory, which returns the SSD to its original state at the time of manufacture. Compared to software-based methods which utilize the ATA command to erase data, hardware purge uses an external switch to adjust the voltage level from High to Low via the controller's General Purpose Input/Output. By short-circuiting the hardware purge pin (See Figure 1), the quick erase function is activated and all data written to the SSD is fully erased. Erased data is non-recoverable, meaning that confidential information is made safe by being destroyed.
In addition to data encryption, Transcend Information offers a variety of SATA III SSD models that can be equipped with a hardware purge function to execute a quick, secure erase. The hardware purge pin is connected to the designated pin of the controller's GPIO (See Figure 2). [Customized firmware settings are required to support the hardware purge pin.] With Transcend's hardware purge feature, sensitive data can be securely, permanently erased in an effective way.
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With a minmal of equipment and ingredients, we'll create a wonderful meal that you should be able to create in 30 minutes or less. We'll focus on devloping flavors and techiques that save you time yet produces a great result. Mushroom Crostini – This appetizer is hungry for any piece of random cheese in your fridge and makes a great first bite. Chicken Roulade – Such a simple dish really, but looks impressive and elegant. Herbed Polenta – While the chicken is cooking we'll get to stirring a nice creamy polenta exploding with flavor from our garden herbs. Roasted Bell Peppers – The subtle hints of smoke bring another depth in flavor to our meal. Fresh Berries and Vanilla Creme – You'll never need to buy canned whipped cream again as we'll guide you and your arm to a workout on dessert. Cost is $85. Class begins at 6:30pm
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Chef Chris Pipilis draws upon his experience at Oakland's Pizzaiolo restaurant where his skill in making "dough" really "pays" off. You'll get hands on in making your own dough then when its rising, we'll make a batch of sauce and prep all the toppings. Our discussion will also cover the tools you need to make a perfectly crispy crust and still have a bit of chew to the dough.
Cost is $90. Class begins at 5pm and lasts approximately 3 hours.


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This article was published 17/1/2012 (2043 days ago), so information in it may no longer be current.
In the crowded basement of Kathy Knowles' three-storey River Heights home, parked beside an ancient furnace, flanked by rows of cross-country ski poles, paint cans and hockey sticks, sit dozens and dozens of neatly stacked cardboard boxes.
Inside these boxes rest thousands of brightly coloured books, most written by Knowles, many with photographs of children smiling joyously on the covers, all destined to promote the cause of literacy in Africa.
"We've published about 100,000 copies of 30 different titles," Knowles says, proudly holding up several books for a visitor to examine. "The first one was an alphabet book. This one is a counting book.
"I started creating these books because I realized in Ghana there was so little available that reflected their culture, their food, their music. So I decided to go on my own. I wanted to meet the need. I find the children in Ghana respond well to these books. Literacy is a huge tool to empower someone."
If anyone should know about the power of literacy, it's Knowles, 56, a self-effacing mother of four who has become known to many Winnipeggers simply as "the African Libraries Lady."
She's the founder and driving force behind the Osu Children's Library Fund, a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting the joy of reading and building a network of libraries in Africa.
Her one-woman international campaign began in 1989 when she and her family joined her mining-executive husband in Accra, the capital of Ghana, a tiny western African nation of roughly 24 million people.
In 1990, she found herself sitting under a flame tree "with beautiful red blossoms" in her garden, reading to local children who couldn't afford the luxury of storybooks.
"It was six kids and these children came week after week," she recalls over coffee in her kitchen. "I had a Rubbermaid laundry hamper I put the books in."
Soon, six kids became 70 kids, and the Rubbermaid container was replaced by specially made bookshelves. Before long, the storytelling sessions outgrew the garden and an unused room in their home was converted into a lending library.
Then, in 1991, at her mother's suggestion, Knowles founded the Osu Children's Library Fund, a charity that, over the last 21 years, has built, furnished and stocked seven free-standing libraries in her beloved Ghana and helped create and support more than 200 smaller libraries in schools, villages, community centres and homes throughout Ghana and nearby Tanzania.
And this year is shaping up to be the fund's busiest since the seeds of her literacy quest were first planted in a garden in Accra. She has plans for another four free-standing libraries in Ghana.
"It's a very exciting year," Knowles says, beaming. "These are big plans. I don't have the money to do all four libraries, but we have enough to start the first library. We're confident we'll be able to raise the rest.
"I'm just waiting for confirmation from the district governments to make sure they have an allowance in their budgets for staff salaries and utilities."
Operating from the third floor of her home, Knowles -- who makes two month-long visits to Ghana each year -- has learned a thing or two about fundraising. Private donations make up most of her budget, but she does receive matching grants from organizations like the Manitoba Council for International Co-operation.
"My whole life is spent asking people for money and then thanking people for giving money," she concedes, laughing. "Every donor receives a handwritten thank-you card from myself or one of our volunteers, plus a letter from a child in Ghana. We want people to know their donations count."
The fund's ambitious plans for 2012 seem a world away from the first library Knowles created outside her garden -- a 12-metre shipping container purchased for $1,200. "We converted it and brought in electricity, raised the ceiling, put in fans, then brought in 3,000 books," she recalls.
"Each of these seven libraries is like a child to me. There's a long period leading up to the opening -- getting the funds, training staff, arranging for furniture to be made. It's all made by a 75-year-old carpenter. He's amazing."
Knowles' commitment to African literacy has earned her a meritorious service award from Canada's Governor General, the Order of Manitoba, the YWCA's Women of Distinction Award and the Soroptomist Making a Difference Award, to name just a few.
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Asked if she is living proof one person can change the world, she blushes and waves a hand in polite dismissal.
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Please let me know if you have more images that are NOT in the montage collection image yet, I may include them. Also, if you can be any more specific about any of the images.
--PandoraX 23:06, 19 June 2006 (PDT)
Image Interpretation
I cleaned it up a bit. Please don't speculate too much on the main page, add it to discussion if you are just guessing what an image is. Some of these are more obvious when you look at the larger ones (for example, the food pantry is definitely a food pantry, not medicine vials; there are separate medicine vials).
I agree. I think we should avoid describing each image within the article. The article should only point out significant factual information relating to the images. We could note observations like the image of Alvar Hanso, the recurrence of polar bear images and swans and so on. But on the whole, we should avoid telling people how they should interpret each image, or the film in general. --Nigedo 08:42, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
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Why are the images out of order on the image here? Would it not be more convenient to have them in order?--Kericanfly 20:43, 20 June 2006 (PDT)
It might make sense to divide the pictures into groups by the Dharma areas: meteorology, psychology, parapsychology, zoology, electromagnetism, and utopian social (engineering?)".--Techiedavid 21:11, 20 June 2006 (PDT)
I agree with Kericanfly. It seems best to present the images only as they appear in the film, to avoid any bias in the way they are presented, or by reorganising them. --Nigedo 08:42, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
The images are out of order in that document because they were very difficult to compile initially in order, since automatic screencaptures would only catch certain images, and then the next auto capture round would catch several more. If you would like to take on the project of reordering them and numbering them sequentially, you're welcome to do so, just know that that particular project took me about 2 hours to sort through all 114 images from 3 separate sets of people (each who ran their decompilers more than once).
--PandoraX 10:11, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
I've looked into that whole situation again. I used vncrec to record the video being played by the stand-alone flash player running in an vnc server. I then used
VNCREC_MOVIE_FRAMERATE=50 VNCREC_MOVIE_CMD="convert xpm:- dirwithimages/image-%05d.png" vncrec -movie test.vncrec
to convert that recorded stream into a series of frames. Note that the frame rates of the different components (flashplayer, vnc, vncrec) are not locked to each other, so I choose to use quite a bit of oversampling here. I then weeded out the exact duplicates with some unix magic:
cp `find dirwithimages -type f | xargs md5sum | sort | rev | uniq -f 1 | rev | cut -d " " -f 3` uniques/
This gives me a directory of files with not too many duplicates which are at least guaranteed to be in correct order, though the quality might be somewhat lacking at times. I still have to manually sort out duplicates (e.g. the same still image with different 'noise' from the 'film' in the 'projector') in consecutive files, but that is not too hard a task.
I then looked into the question of how many stills there really are: The antiuser.org picture has 109, but the last 8 are equal to the first 8 (with less luminosity, due to the 'projector's lamp not being at temperature yet). Also the boar is duplicate (eight row, to the right) in that montage, so there are only 100 unique images in there. At least in the first half of my screenshots I have 103 images. I then compared my series with the antiuser one and found that there seem to be exactly 108. Media:OrientationTrainingIssuesVideo.jpg therefore has some duplicates: 112 (right at the beginning in the original order) is 86 (originally in the middle), 113 is 111, 114 is 82, 88 is 105, 34 is 65, 109 is no still at all, and there is probably one other thing I'm currently missing.
--Henryk 21:21, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
Ah, there's an even better way: Decompile the .swf file to extract the .flv movie. Then use mplayer -vf screenshot on that file, press S to start recording screenshots and voila, you get all images in the exact correct order with no image missing (however, each frame is repeated, alternatingly two or three times). I've sorted through them and am now absolutely certain that there are 108 stills. These are repeated in order two times, then there are six black frames (what you have as 109), followed by an incomplete run of the first 105 stills. The complete sequence of all frames is approx. 25 MB big. I have made a thumbnail compilation available at http://shiny.ploetzli.ch/~henryk/5f4172777068a8ec3370e327d641a4b9/allimages.jpg (big, 3.1MB) so you can see the repetition for yourself. I've also uploaded an extracted set of the 108 unique stills to the wiki at Image:OrientationPsychologyStills.jpg. (Note that these were scaled down by gthumb because I couldn't find a different easy way to create such compilations. I have the original 448x352 images, if somebody knows of a better way.) --Henryk 19:12, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
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I am keen to clean this great new article up and add more info. I don't think descriptions of all the images are necessary since people can examine them and decide for themselves what they represent. One person's opinion of what an image contains may not be another's, so the speculation section below seems the best place to keep most observations. Is it possible to upload .swf files to LostPedia? If so, I can upload the original of this film for people to watch here. There is more factual information we can/should include in this article - the copyright notice at the end of the film (I'll get a screen cap), note the factual observation that the montage appears to include the Hanso 'official' image of Alvar Hanso despite the apparent age of the film etc. Let me know what you all think please. --Nigedo 08:33, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
Very good idea. Should we move the list here then? --Kericanfly 08:38, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
Yes I think we should, but let's see what others think too. I updated the article with some new images. Pics of everything shown in the film are now shown in the article. --Nigedo 09:34, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
This is a good idea, I agree. I think there's just too much speculation on the main page (instead of just description from the larger image of OBVIOUS facts), yet you can't really stop people from doing it. I moved the list below.
BTW, the initial list IS factual... I'm not basing it off of tiny thumbnail captures, but rather the clearer flash-decompiled images, which are too large to include.
-PandoraX 10:15, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
They may seem to be factual but they are still interpreted. What one person labels as an "army soldier" may just as well be a man in combat fatigues. This description is misleading. IMO, it is better to avoid publishing a numbered list of descriptions of each still within the article and only to point out obvious facts - such as which images have also been discovered elsewhere, so that what they depict can be corroborated. It's not a question of how well you describe a still, you still have to make a choice about what information within the still you interpret as relevant. --Nigedo 10:31, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
BTW, the army soldier was one that was not written by me. I didn't catch it when I went through and deleted speculation from the list. I agree with what you are saying in general about interpretations of "description"... often, fact and speculation are confused at lostpedia, and I think it is a good idea to not open it up as an opportunity for further confusion.
--PandoraX 14:22, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
I've tidied this article a fair bit and added new commentary and images. I'm going to go ahead and remove the "clean up" banner now. If anyone still feels it needs to be cleaned up, please nominate it again. --Nigedo 12:54, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
Speculation about individual images in the montage of stills has now been moved to List of images in Psychology Test Orientation Video. --Nigedo 22:48, 26 June 2006 (PDT)
Missing Images
There is an image at [1] (left side, 5th from bottom) that isn't (or I am blind) on the numbered one here. It may be important as it looks like a sea platform with a space elevator which is mentioned in the clues: The Lost Experience clues/June 14 Found 08:43, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
Nope, I have that one, it is #40, look again. I should have all the images from the larger image, which is missing 5 images from my collection (other issue is that one duplicates the boar pic).
--PandoraX 10:22, 21 June 2006 (PDT)
List of images
Why was the list of images cut from this page? Can we maybe restore at List of images in Psychology Test Orientation Video? Jengod
- I think that would be a good idea. --Cool Man 0912 15:06, 22 June 2006 (PDT)
- DONEJengod 15:15, 22 June 2006 (PDT)
- Good Job :D --Cool Man 0912 16:10, 22 June 2006 (PDT)
- Not a bad idea, since having it separate minimizes the random speculation changes... at least I hope. :) I just don't want it to turn into people editing in "I see a bunny rabbit in the blur"... "No, I see Alvar Hanso building a UFO", etc. (all fine for Discussion and Theories) --PandoraX 17:24, 22 June 2006 (PDT)
- Good Job :D --Cool Man 0912 16:10, 22 June 2006 (PDT)
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I'm getting myself more and more confused about this GPT disk limit on 2TB volumes in Server 2008-based OSes. I'm looking at a system with Windows Storage Server 2008R2 Essentials, as well as Windows Home Server 2011, and keep finding references to this limit. People say that it's a Server 2008 problem, and since these are both built on that core, that it's a limit in these as well. The confusing thing is that I have a Server 2008 R2 server that I just set up a backup using the built-in backup tools, and it backed up fine. The storage partition on the system is 8TB. I got no errors or anything.
So, my question, in essense is this: Does this limit only apply to the OS partition/volume, or software-controlled RAID volumes? The system I backed up is on a Dell server with hardware RAID, and has a 60GB C: partition for the OS, and a 7.9GB E: partition for data.
If I decided to purchase a system with WSS or WHS, does this mean that I'm going to have to pay extra for the hardware RAID option?
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See here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463525
Q. Can Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 read, write, and boot from GPT disks? A. Yes, all versions can use GPT partitioned disks for data. Booting is only supported for 64-bit editions on UEFI-based systems.
So you're down to hardware support, though since WHS is a different product you'd probably want to double check it. If it's anything like WHSv1 it'll automatically partition anyway.
While my Server 2008 file server only boots from a 1TB volume, it's got a pair of arrays connected, 8TB and 11TB, no issues there either.
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Jun 29, 2011 at 8:32 UTC
My understanding is that you can only install the OS on a volume of up to 2TB. You can have other non-OS volumes larger than that.
Also, when given the option I'd ALWAYS go with hardware RAID. Less of a stress on the system and you'll get better performance
Jun 29, 2011 at 9:23 UTC
See here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463525
Q. Can Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 read, write, and boot from GPT disks? A. Yes, all versions can use GPT partitioned disks for data. Booting is only supported for 64-bit editions on UEFI-based systems.
So you're down to hardware support, though since WHS is a different product you'd probably want to double check it. If it's anything like WHSv1 it'll automatically partition anyway.
While my Server 2008 file server only boots from a 1TB volume, it's got a pair of arrays connected, 8TB and 11TB, no issues there either.
Jun 29, 2011 at 10:00 UTC
Yeah, I've built one WHS and one WSS system, and they both automatically partition a 100MB system partition, a 60GB C: drive partition, and everything else on the primary drive goes to a separate data partition.
I'm not planning on dropping in an 8TB RAID5 with my OS installed on it, so my understanding is that as long as the RAID5 partition is separate from where the OS is installed, it should be fine for backups, but I wanted to make sure now that DE is gone and I'm going to have to use RAID and the built-in backup system for my data. I've tried the third-party DE replacements, but they're all in beta, and I don't want to go that route until an RC is ready.
Jun 29, 2011 at 10:22 UTC
Yeah, I've been debating what I want to do with mine as well. I've got a simple WHSv1 machine at home that I built mostly for drive extender and computer backups, as well as being the general server. It's nice but pretty sluggish especially in writes, and I've always heard DE might be part of it. I'd like to upgrade sometime and haven't decided if I care enough about DE or if I should just run a single drive and increase my backup schedule.
Jun 29, 2011 at 4:20 UTC
My home system is a WHSv1 as well. It has never given me any trouble. Even during storage balancing. I don't do a lot of heavy writes to it, so maybe that's why - the storage is pretty static at this point. I mostly use it for computer backups, file storage, and for SubSonic music streaming.
Jun 29, 2011 at 4:29 UTC
I've got it on a gigabit switch with a gigabit NIC, and copying something like a .iso file or a video to it from my desktop (also gigabit) is normally 10-20MBps. Reading is just fine, I can copy from it to the desktop at 60 or 70. It doesn't see a ton of action, but it's a bit frustrating when I'm doing stuff. I've always just put up with it since it does its job very well.
Jun 30, 2011 at 8:16 UTC
Hmm. It's been a while since I clocked any of my copy speeds, but I think my write speed is faster than that. I run all gig in my house. We built it 5 years ago, and now adays all the phone lines they put in is now CAT5e, so I paid a little extra to have them do CAT6, just in case. :) I'll try to remember to do some speed testing this weekend.
I guess what I need to know is specifically, does anyone have a Windows Server 2008-based system (server 2008 itself, WHS, WSS, or WSBS) that has a separate OS and Data partition that has a data partition larger than 2TB that is being backed up using the built-in backup utilities. Anyone?
Jun 30, 2011 at 5:08 UTC
The answer (after much digging and experimentation) is EFI. Extensible Firmware Interface. It is built into the bios. You must have an EFI enabled bios and boot device. Out of the box, server 2008 R2 has to be patched and a new installation DVD must be built. There are about 3 KB articles that describe the process:
I have a 1U server chassis with 4 hot/swap bays with 4 1tb drives only. I wanted to install the OS, shrink the OS partition to about 60-70GB and partition the rest for data. With my current RAID controller, I am wasting 1TB cause it is not EFI compliant. So the bottom line is that you cannot (at least not in a way that I have found) access drive space beyond 2TB on a bootable partition without EFI.
Jul 1, 2011 at 7:55 UTC
So your 60GB OS partition, and separate data partition won't work if the data partition isn't the bootable partition? What I'm looking at is having the OS on a completely separate drive and controller than the data. Using something like a PERC5/i setup for RAID 5 for the data partition, and just a separate drive using the on-board SATA controller for the OS disk.
Jul 1, 2011 at 8:36 UTC
Sorry, I misread your post. I have never tried to make a separate partition > 2TB on R2.
Jul 6, 2011 at 7:45 UTC
Well, once Newegg gets my replacement drives (another saga) shipped to me, I'll try it and let you know what happens.
Jan 30, 2012 at 5:29 UTC
Hi Scott,
I'm running Windows Small Business Server 2011 Essentials (based on 2008R2) and had some bad problems with it:
1) You can't use a disk > 2TB as system disk. There was no hint like that so I added a small system drive for the OS.
2) You can't use the windows backup for disks > 2TB. This is a known issue and related to the shadow copy service as far as I understood. I backup solution from retrospec - works fine so far.
3) Then my 4TB Raid 10 system went raw after 4 month. This happened at 9pm when nobody was in the office. Next morning we restarted the system and were prompted to connect the new raid system that the OS just found. I'm in the middle of recovery (since 2 weeks). We are using the data from our backup now. There is no hardware issue. I searched the internet for similar issues. I found some and all of them in connection with large drives (2TB+) and GPT. Luckily the rest of the server was not affected. Only the Raid System went raw. Any ideas? Any similar experience?
Jan 30, 2012 at 9:43 UTC
I hadn't tried the 2TB or larger for the system disk. I'm a fan of using smaller drives for the system drive, and then larger for the data, so I've never run into that particular issue.
I have used FileBackPC for backing up the larger Data partition with no issues, either. It's a Windows thing that 3rd parties have worked out, I guess.
I haven't had that kind of an issue with RAID. Is this software Windows-based RAID or hardware?
Jan 30, 2012 at 10:00 UTC
It's a Raid On Mother-Board solution. That's kind of software assisted RAID.
I'm still thinking about the reason.
WARNING: If your windows invites you to join a new harddisk and you didn't add any, PRESS NO or CANCEL. Otherwise you existing disc may be wiped clean. Usually windows is prompting you before you try to erase important things. But in this case there is nothing.
At the moment I'm testing the disk with testdisk, but there are no results so far (takes time). Are there any other tools that could help? Actually the GPT signature was wiped off and the new one has no connection to the previously stored data.
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I have witnessed many problems occur with my friends when they dated guys who were close to their siblings, so I'm not taking that route.
But what if my crush is only close to my cousin? My best guy cousin is best friends with my crush. For now we'll call my cousin max and my crush jack. Me and my cousin are like siblings, and I've gotten closer to jack. He's always teasing me, taking me places, buying me gifts, and talking to me about deep issues. We've been really close since high school, but I only started liking him this year.
Recently we went out to eat and my other friend asked me why I was still single. Max jokingly told everyone that he would kill his friends if they asked to be my girlfriend. "Family sticks together, I have to make sure my friendships dont go down the toilet". At first it was funny, but then I noticed how Jack was getting a little distant. He was acting weird for a few days, he would smile at me but continue hanging with his guy friends.
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He might like you but there is the whole muddy issue of "bro-code" that prohibits him from actually making a move. If you approach him then that will open the door for him to get permission from your cousin, because yes... He will probably need permission.
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