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Wall of Honor of NYRR Volunteers for 2015 ! Cool !
I got a call from New York Road Runners for our volunteering service last year to thank me and Evelyne and Elisabeth !
We totaled 29 hours which is great ! Tough to improve in 2016 !
But let's try !
Scotland Run (10K)
Hello dear readers,
Today was my seventh race of the year ! We headed to Central Park for a 6.2 miles (10 km) run for the Scotland week ! It is getting colder and the choice of clothes is getting tricky. Rain was also forecasted.
I went for technical heavy long sleeves plus a 2015 NYRR Volunteer blue-gray T shirt, long technical pants and a short, plus light gloves and a cap for the rain. Too much as usual but I hate the cold.
I started in corral I, with my current 9:20 per mile best. I'll will be in slower corral in the future as I don't run 9:20 on long runs any more.
I need stamina, not endurance to preserve this low ranking corral level 😉
The run went OK, with light rain in the last mile. I tried to maintain a sub 10:00 minutes per miles. My watch is telling me:
1st mile : 9:31
2nd mile: 9:11
3rd mile: 9:35
4th mile: 10:07
5th mile: 9:27
6th mile: 9:22
We went clock wise in Central Park, starting from Central Park South side on 59th street. Being in a far away corral, I cross the departure line in 5 minutes. We had the rolling hills till the reservoir, then the serious hills of Harlem, before returning along the Museum Mile on the East side. A great one man cheering squad on cat hill !
We had great pipe players at miles 2,3,4 and 5. Still playing under the rain! Viva Scotland !
My watch is also telling me I ran 6.34 miles. I could not follow the shortest line as we had so many runners.
My watch says: 1:00:22 for 6.34 miles
NYRR says: 1:0016 for 6.2 miles
I finished 5348th overall, 3358th male, 247th in my age group.
One nice feature of NYRR is the age group equivalent, i.e. an equivalent result of 53:36 which better than my official personal best. They also give a ranking of 49.86% overall. I'll need to break again the hour to go past 50% of my age group.
It is my best time for at least 6 years, since I left Japan.
This is my second race for the New York Flyers. I need to see what training I could do with then to go through the hour on 10 km. I need STAMINA !
All the best. Next week, we'll hike near Bear Mountain. Stay tune.
Winter 2016 Recap.
What a season !
Running wise, after Honolulu marathon, we had no race till the end of the year, but next year, I'll do the midnight run in Central Park if we're in town.
I ran the Joe Kleinerman 10K on January 9th with Evelyne in 1:17:01. It was her PB on 10K. Nice, cold, crisp. In Central Park.
Then the Manhattan half has been cancelled by a snow storm. A small one. We still went running in Central Park and there was still some humid snow on part of the road. But we got the NYRR +1 for the race, even if it has been cancelled. So January finished with NYRR +2 for our 2016 campaign for 2017 NYC marathon. And +1 for the 5 boroughs
A small reminder: we are (Evelyne, Eli and myself) already qualified for 2016. And we'll do the Brooklyn half as we volunteered for the race last year.
In February, two 4 milers. 37'31" on February 6th Gridiron 4M and 37'46″on February 20th for the Al Gordon Classic in Prospect Park in Brooklyn. I like the Gridiron, on the morning the Super Bowl. A fun race where you can vote for your favorite by selecting a lane. So for us, this year, we went in the Broncos lane! The race in Prospect Park is also quite nice. A quick subway ride from Times Square to Grand Army Plaza and we're in the park. The hills are easier than Central Park, so I don't have an excuse on the slower time. Lack of training, too much foods and drinks, probably. So for Feb, We were NYRR 4 and 5B 1.
In early March, we had a week of cross country ski in Lapland Lake Village in the Southern Adirondacks. Very nice holiday place, with many small chalets in the woods and a good communal house. We had a lot of fun skiing and hiking in fairly icy conditions.
On March 6, we ran the Washington Heights 5K, from the Armory to the Cloisters and back, running under the access ramp of the Washington Bridge, then past Fort Tyron then down around the MET annex at the Cloisters. Very nice course in a lively neighborhood.
And on March 20th, I ran again the United NYC Half. #UnitedNYChalf. So fun. I qualified last year through the 5 boroughs races. I qualified for last year race through the lottery, but it has now been established that I have a lot of luck.
The weather, on this last day of winter was very cold. Some cold air from Canada came other to say hello. We had 32 Fahrenheit or 0 Celsius at the start and a couple of degrees more later in the day. Snow is forecasted later today as hot and humid air is coming up from Virginia!
The preparation: I visited the race expo on Friday afternoon as both Evelyne and Eli volunteered from 4 to 8 pm. They managed the 19000-19999 booth and my number was 19368. What a coincidence it was not ! I picked up the nice technical shirt, from a small outfit in Oregon, which outsourced the work in China. Nice design, lots of sponsor nice in the back. It like Times Square without the screens 😉
I carbo-loaded Friday night with Pasta and meat sauce. Very good. And I drank lots of water and coffee on Saturday. Ate some more bread for good measure. But I could eliminate the hard waste and ended up running with a very heavy belly. Next time, I carbo-load of Thursday then I fast for three days. I can't be 84 kg on Wednesday and 87 kg on the morning of the race. This is sheer non sense. This needs to be fixed.
On the morning of the race, I woke up at 6:00. Dressed up quickly, had a yogurt then ran out the door. I had my tired yellow Asics shoes, heavy hiking socks, long X2U pants, two longs sleeves thermo shirts, a long sleeve vest and the blue tech T shirt with the bib, a ski mask and January's Manhattan Half blue hot hat. Plus gloves. I also took a poncho to protect me till the departure time of the race. I was, as usual, carrying too much. But I was not cold. I will never improve my time if I'm not dressed in a short and a T shirt,with light gloves and hat. I need a fair weather to dress light to go faster.
I was at the back of the second wave, which is nice, better than the third wave last year. Lots of security to enter the park, up to 20 minutes to line up to pass the metal detectors. I was gone at 8:00. Up Cat's Hill, then past the Luxor Obelisk, the MET, the reservoir, Harlem' 110th street to WestCentral Park corner then back in the park, up the hills before exiting the park on 7th Avenue. Then up to 57th street, then all downhill to Times Square, then 42nd street to meet Eli and Evelyne, at mile 8, before heading South on the West side of Manhattan.
I averaged 10:32 per mile:
Start: 8:00:52 am.
Finish: 2:18'01" un official.
Pace went from 10'11 to 11'07 per mile. Not very good.
The finish chute was well organized. I just walked to subway 1 station, missed a train, took the next, changed for a 3 to Times Square. Nice. Then I walked in the cold to the apartment.
Nice medal. Nice race. Nice day.
I'm NYRR +6, 5 boroughs +2. Evelyne and Eli are NYRR 5+1 and 5 B +1.
And now I'll taste the raisin bread I prepared today:
I started making bread a couple of months ago, based on the no-kneat bread recipe from Sullivan Street Bakery's founder. I tried plain white flour, 25% wheat and 75% white flour, 33% wheat and 66% white and raisin bread. It is so easy to do and so good, that I do a bread every weekend now.
Running Summary 2015
Running : 923 km in 2015 !
3 marathons: Omaha (September, 5:48), New York (November, 5:17) and Honolulu (December, 6:17)
3 half marathons: Manhattan, NYC, Staten Island
10 miles: Bronx
10 K, 4 miles and 5 K: a lot…
The Break Down:
- January: 68
- February: 40
- March: 74
- April : 34
- May: 48
- June: 102
- July: 74
- August: 101
- September: 98
- October: 58
- November: 118
- December: 108
I didn't run any ultra in 2015. Maybe in 2016 ?
For January, I have the 10K Joe Kleinerman (January 9th) and the Manhattan Half (January 24th, with a medal this year) in Central Park. Both will count for NYC marathon 2017 9+1 program.
As I volunteered last year for the Brooklyn Half, I'm automatically in this year (May 21st), I'm so happy. I did the arrival baggage, and it was a fully body work out for 2 hours, working on two trucks plus helping people to locate their missing bags.
Honolulu marathon
The results of the Honolulu marathon are out !
I finished #11193 (my daughter finished 11192 !)
My bib was 13062
My final time is 6:17:33
The overall pace was 14:24 minutes per miles
My group result: M50-54 :837/1286
Men: 6688/10779
5K : 42:09 In the dark, departure at 5:00 !
10K: 1:23:03 Just before going up Diamond head !
Half: 3:00:16 It was already hot.
25K: 3:35:29 Tough and getting tougher
30K: 4:20:32 A long 5K, getting very hot
40K: 6:00:03: Up hill till 39.8. We ran more on the flats.
Very fun race, well organized , lots of great volunteers. The fireworks were awesome !
Last heavy week before Honolulu marathon taper
I had a hard week for thanksgiving, lots of running, walking and cycling.
Just short of 130 kilometers total (81 miles), which is a personal best so far. I'll now taper slowly till December 13.
I ran a bit, walk some and added serious (for me) session on the bike.
Overall, I am fine, exited and hopefully ready for my third marathon this Autumn.
We'll fly to Hawaii in two weeks. I'm so excited !
This is my son graduation celebration trip, delayed by some 18 months !
Life is great !
New York City Marathon Race report.
Short story: it was a great race, beyond expectations. 5:15:21 !
Long story:
Preparation: long runs, mostly 20-25 k each each weekends.
Metro: Subway from Times Square, R line to Whitehall, lots of runners, first call for a doctor on the platform
Ferry for Staten Island: I arrived in the terminal at 7:10, for my ferry scheduled at 7:30. I lined up toward dock #1. There were very long lines for ferry #1, which was unexpectedly departing at 7:15. The ferry added ferries to have 4 ferries an hour. As I didn't know, and as it wasn't on the SI ferry web site, i just waited for #1. I couldn't make it. They closed the door in front of me and lots of other runners. Then everyone ran to door #3 for the next ferry. We had even longer lines for #3, departing at 7:30. That was my scheduled ferry. I just sneaked in. I walked in the orange ferry and found all seats taken in the id level deck. I walked up and had 10 seats for me. Lesson one on ferry: don't wait for the first ferry, line up for the next one and go to the upstair deck.
Departure: I was in the blue corral, upright lane on the bridge 😉 I started in the 4th wave, most probably due to the fact that I selected back this Spring the 7:30 ferry to SI. Departure at 11:00, 2 hours after the men elites and wave 1 !
Departure area: Well organized with hot beverages and lot of space to relax and wait for the departure.
Music: I usually listen to music during long run and marathon but I had to get the earphones away after reaching the bottom of the Verrazano-Narrows bridge. The crowd was so loud I couldn't hear my music.
Race Path: the classic 5 boroughs : fairly flat except for the bridges. Easier than the hills in Central Park.
Timing: 5:15 is nice, 32 minutes faster than Omaha, which is good.
Hills and bridges: I need to train on hills. Hudson River park is too flat 😉
Neighborhood: I enjoyed Williamsburg and the Bronx, Brooklyn and the Long Island city in Queens. Harlem and the 1st Avenue, the 5th avenue and the Museum mile. I found out that the 5th avenue is blocked in Harlem by a fairly large rock. Strange thing to find out in a Marathon.
Things I enjoyed: the continuous crowd support, the music (the DaftPunk look alike were amazing), the views of Manhattan from Brooklyn and the bridges, the crowd support (really amazing !), the organization, the relatively flat course. And the weather which allowed me to run in shorts and Namban Rengo T-shirt. And the crowd support…
I'm still training my daughter for her first marathon. In Hawaii, honolulu, on Dec 13th 2015. It will be a great day.


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I just love mini albums! Here is one that Ania created using our Wood grain circles. I love the bright colors she used and all the Hambly goodness!
Such eye candy!
Have a great weekend!
oooooh cuteness! loving hte woodgrain circles!!
can't wait to guest for ya!! :)
and yeah chicka, you need to get off those nalgas and watch. my son says Naglas.
That album is superduper!
What a fun mini!
That's an awesome looking mini!!!


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After reading my profile, this profile right here, apparently this gentleman felt quite positive about the longevity of our future relationship.
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Monday, 27 September 2010
Sunday Stampers Challenge #122 - Black
Sunday Stampers Challenge set by the lovely Miss Hels this week is black, so here is my tag entry for it.
Papaya Light cardstock, cut to 3.3" x 6" and then used my new WR Memory Keepers Pink Corner Chomper for the tag tops.
Then sponged all over the Wild Honey Distress Ink, which was then spritz with water to blend and add drips and heat dried. Next I went over with Walnut Stain Distress Ink and used a Tatsgtered angels mask on top right hand side.
One of the Stampers Anonymous Artistic Collage images stamped in bottom right hand side, along with Paper Artsy ruler and cogs images in Momento Tuxedo Black.
Some of the black letter paper from the Sir Tim *Duke of Distress* Lost and Found Paper stack on the rear to stiffen it, and a WR Memory Keepers jumbo eyelet in Antique Brass.
Stamped the Paper Artsy bird cage on Papaya Light Cardstock with Fired Brick Distress Ink and then embossed with Fired Brick Distress EP. Added a touch of Wild Honey DI over the image and then cut it out.
Next cut of the top circle of the image, covered in Versamark and used my favourite Chiaro Flo EP in a couple of layers .... my Versamark had some blue on it, and it left a tiny trace of it on the image .... but actually it looks quite good!
This was then added to the tag (using Pinflair Gel Glue) to line up with the eyelet, but I left the top bit slightly lower than the rest so it didn't just hover around it, but merged in.
Clock stamped bottom left with Versamark and embossed with UTEE in Black.
PA flowers stamped along the bottom in Fired Brick Distress Ink and heat embossed with Fired Brick Distress Embossing Powder. I then went over them again with Momento Tuxedo Black and used UTEE in black.
Fibres from my rapidly depleting stash that I got from EBay earlier in the year.
I am so pleased with the Artistic Collage stamp set, it is useful for sooo much, and I think will become a staple o my desk all of the time from now on.
Happy Crafting
Kay xoxoxoxo
Posted by A Hovel to Home at 20:45
3 comments:
- Hels Sheridan said...
Gorgeous tag hun, thanks for joinin in with the Sunday sTamper x
- 27 September 2010 at 22:09
- flutterbycrafter said...
Stunning tag, and what an original idea to use red for the cage.
- 28 September 2010 at 08:48
- craftytrog said...
Super duper tag! Love the touch of red on it & wonderful stamping! x
- 30 September 2010 at 14:43
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God Offers Comfort to All
May 20, 2017
3All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is our merciful Father and the source of all comfort. 4He comforts us in all our troubles so that we can comfort others. When they are troubled, we will be able to give them the same comfort God has given us. 5For the more we suffer for Christ, the more God will shower us with his comfort through Christ. 6Even when we are weighed down with troubles, it is for your comfort and salvation! For when we ourselves are comforted, we will certainly comfort you. Then you can patiently endure the same things we suffer. 7We are confident that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in the comfort God gives us.
2 Corinthians 1:3-7 (NLT)
Wow! Paul hits the ground running in his letter to the Corinthians. He wastes no time with fluffy greetings and fancy words or complex metaphors; he just starts praising the Lord. The phrase "overflowing with the joy of the Lord" comes to mind. So what's been going on with Paul that he is so quick with praise? He must be in a great time of peace and prosperity, right? Well, not exactly. The very next line is about his troubles.
Paul has great troubles. He is being threatened by critics with imprisonment and even death. But he goes on to praise God for His comfort in these many trials. Paul does not say how God delivered him or that everything was easy and without pain even though God swooped in and rescued him. Paul writes about how God comforted him in his time of trial and struggle. And it doesn't end there. God comforts Paul not just so he will feel better but also so he will go out and provide comfort to others.
This is an example for the church.
Paul is encouraging us to be open in our struggles and share how God is working in them and showing us His mercy.
This will grow our faith and give our salvation a firm foundation. But God does not show us this mercy and comfort to only deliver us from trials. In verse 6, Paul writes that we will continue to suffer for Christ and that the comfort we receive from Him will help us patiently endure these sufferings. Paul understands there are more trials to come, and he needs to endure for Christ to the end.
God comforts us to give us the courage to patiently endure, to not give up, to keep going!
Patiently enduring does not come easily for me. More often than not, I pray that God will deliver me from my current struggle. So I will keep praying not only for comfort but also that God will open my eyes to the people around me that are in pain and also need comfort; and that I might be Jesus with skin on for them today. I pray that He will give me the strength to keep going in times of trial and for me to patiently endure while praising Christ through it all.
This post is entirely the opinion of this week's writer and does not necessarily reflect the view of Northview Church as a whole.


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I developed the logo for a publisher. I had some trouble solving the feet of the angel.
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I developed the logo for a publisher. I had some trouble solving the feet of the angel.
The fire breath reminds me a bit of a flame decal. Can you show us some other variations?
Right now the angel looks somewhat somber to me. I'm not an artist, but if you were to make him look more heroic I believe you would have a more impactful design.
Lastly I think the type treatment could use a bit of work. I don't have any specific font suggestions but I think it text would look better with a larger x-height and increased spacing.
I thought I knew my Bible stories pretty well, but I'm drawing a blank on the angel with the fire-breathing lion. What's the story behind this image?
Like Zev, I'm not an illustrator, but I think the placement of the angel makes it ambiguous whether he's riding the lion or standing next to it. Also, if you refine the shape of the lion's forelegs, it will be more obvious that they don't belong to the angel.
(Detail from drawing by Benjamin Waterhouse Hawkins, 1860)
To make the angel more heroic as Zev suggests, try moving his torch-bearing arm forward so it's not superimposed on his head. And give him a stronger chin.
You may find some good ideas here jko:
mojo that image is freakin HOT!
know what the source was?
angel? riding lion? walking next to lion? holding torch? wtf!?
honestly it looks like you've grabbed a couple of different images through goggle smashed em together and traced em (badly.)
I'm also curious as to why a publisher (I'm presume of the printed variety) would use a domain name in their 'logo'.
Paul Ducco
Graphic Designer - Melbourne
I found the 1860 lion drawing at this URL. There's a list of links and references at the bottom of that page, if you want to know more.
Thank you for introducing me to Negri's sculpture.
(Photo by BrdrTrekkr on Flickr)
jko - what do you mean? did you take offence to something I posted?
If you'd said - this is a very bare bones WIP of an initial idea for a logo for an independent webzine publishing collective - with a focus on cultural
communication. Then you'd probably have got more 'constructive' feedback. Without sounding too harsh, I'll comment on what I see and how I see it, based on the information provided.
Continuing ... I don't think the flames are necessary. The sculpture is fantastic and can really work as the logo ... I just think it needs a lot more work on composition and execution. It's not reading well (if at all).
Don't take it the wrong way. We're here to help.
Paul Ducco
Graphic Designer - Melbourne
Check out the number of legs...I see one front paw, two angel legs, and two hind paws. Although the angel's rear leg looks a lot like the lion's...maybe it is the lion's? Very confusing.
Also, the area where the angel's robe/dress/tunic touches the lion's back creates a weird shape, I think.
Overall, I think there's a distracting imbalance of negative and "positive" space. Personally, while I agree that the first flame looks like a car decal, I like it better than the newest version, which looked to me like a duck trying to escape the lion's mouth.
Have you played around with the direction at all? Flipped the image horizontally so that the lion/angel are facing to the right?
I would definitely look at redrawing with focus on anatomy of people and lions, rather than working from a photo of a statue. As Ratty said, the execution is lacking.
Hmm, interesting.
I like the ambiguity about whose legs are whose. I also like the way you've got five legs. On first glance most people wouldn't notice that's an odd number. To me it looks unmistakeably like the angel is walking, and not riding the lion.
I would however add some sharpness to the contours, it seems a lot of the corners are too round, clean and smooth. I think some polishing of the silhouettes to get them closer to anatomical would be very worthwhile.
I'm not sure about the way the fire on the lion's mouth is shaped.
And I'd flip it to face right.
Hi jko,
I think your legs arrangement is quite good. More than five legs would be a mess. If you want more suggestions, I have two:
1. I find the ground baseline a bit too heavy. Have you tried something thinner?
2. There is something weird about the angel's torch. It doesn't seem to follow the same rules as the lion's flame.
3. (I said i had two suggestions, but...) I find it a bit too complex for a logo. Have you already started checking it in small sizes?
Inspired star anyway. Keep working!!
Hi jko,
I think this can turn out nicely, it´s an interesting image. But I think there´s a bit too much going on in this logo, too much flames and legs. I would try and find a more dynamic view of the lion and the angel - maybe something like the picture of the statue posted by Mojo would work. Actually I think it would. And I would skip the ground, or incorporate it with the text (making the ground a black box with white text in it). I also would skip the flames. If needed because of the name, stick to one flame - coming from the lion, disconnected from its mouth...
Not saying this sort of geometric designi is the direction you should take. But its kinda easier with real examples.
I'd like to see this sort of iconization (if thats even a word) or simplification on the work you're doing. Its got potencial.
Good luck
Ps: This is a work by Hello Monday
oh and you got over being offended? :-P
it looks LOADS better.
DavM - that is HOTNESS!
I too reckon it should take an aesthetic approach like the one posted.
Paul Ducco
Graphic Designer - Melbourne
Jko, this is coming along very nicely.
Personally, I would loose the flames coming from the lion and the wobbly ground the statue stands on. I reckon they simply distract from the overall beauty of the mark. Plus, you should really work on the type treatment and its relationship to the mark.
You could allow the ground to stay rough on the upper edge, but make it nice & flat underneath so it doesn't make distracting 'wobbly' shapes above the text.
Ever since I chose to block pop-ups, my toaster's stopped working.
This is a very interesting work in progress.
I agree with all about seb. The image is quite complex, and giving away some elements would help readability and pregnancy. Besides, the flames, although very well drawn so far, seem to be a bit too realistic compared with the rest. Also, removing the ground is something you should definitely try: legs+text should be enough to hold both figures.
What about making the ground thicker and placing white text over it?
Also I think the wings would look better with pointier feathers.
Finally the lion's flames don't really fit with the rest of the image.
How about making the type be the flames?
Yes, I was also going to say pointier feathers...looks good. It's a very detailed logo now. I wonder if there's too much going on?
too much detail & off balance imo.
Feel like drawing this morning...so here is a quickie...hope you don't mind.
I based the illustration off one of the photo above. It still can be simplify even more imo. But anyway, I tried to give it a more stylize & dynamic approach.
I like your lion Jake. (Although the tail seems to have a boner)
some of the focal/action arcs need work (IMO) but jake's quickie is a great alternative.
the flames certainly don't help from a compositional point of view.
Paul Ducco
Graphic Designer - Melbourne
I like that draft jakes.
Even tho its just a quickie it doesn't resemble a lion anymore and it should not loose that.
Well but that'd be just a small tweak on the face and it'd be solved anyway.
ok unlike jakes, i'm too busy (haha--just kiddin) to do real work. too lazy. but he showed in his drawing what i was going to suggest, and that is to create a more symmetric structure by using the angles to your advantage. it would look more dynamic as well, if you sort of following the two axis of a letter x (more or less of course. also, as jakes shows, you absolutely need the head to be separated from the arm.
anyways, the red lines show a rough axis to be used. and since i didn't do the work, i would imagine the lion would need to posture up a little bit, stand a little higher at the shoulder, and bring the butt down--again jakes you nailed it. haha. i might as well just be explaining what you did
So far I've been quiet. But can't be any more.
I'm sorry to say that I don't like this logo at all. It's going in the wrong direction, it's clipart and not a logo.
WHat jakes did was at least something you could build on. Existing logo has waaaay too much detail, various shape style and as said. Not a logo in itself.
There are lots of great logos with lions around the world, and when you try to produce another one, make sure it works in small sizes as well. This one doesn't. You got distracted by reality.
Let me show you one of the very nice lion stylisations around that can give you a hint.
http://www.stol.si (never mind outdated website, but logo is plain fab)
Jakes' logo did lack lion figure stylisation and too rigid torch, but it had dynamics.
As far as I can say this existing logo is facing the wrong way if nothing else. Unless you live in a Right2Left reading country. It's moving to the left, looks left and that is wrong already. It goes back to past and downgrades business instead of growing and future's_looking_bright logo...
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I only skimmed this thread but wanted to throw my 2¢ in. Hopefully I don't say something some else already has. One thing, and it may only be me, but the fact the angel and lion are facing "backwards" and towards the "past" is somewhat bothering me. Then again, perhaps it's a good thing seeing as how the myth is from the past. Just wanted to point out that I responded to that subtle detail. I think the foundation could look a little more "stable" and less loose. It looks as though it is falling apart.
jko – Good luck and I look forward to seeing future refinements.
I must apologize JKO. I was a bit harsh with you without giving you any positive feedback. I can see you want to make this logo work. I just wanted to say that the path you're taking is not the right one.
I'm still very ken to see where this will get...
Robert Koritnik
That's hot!
Only thing I'm not loving is the halo.
Also you might want to remove the white line on the lion's front leg.
This is a fantastic improvement, well done.
Some thoughts:
- keep the white line on the front leg - it created a nice depth
- consider changing the angel's neck & lion's tail (maybe it is just the angle?)
- type still needs some work, it feels added on, not part of the overall design
Great work. Wow!
The new flames rock, too.
I agree with Seb about keeping the white line on the front leg, but maybe the tail doesn't need one?
And I agree that the angel's neck looks stiff.
About the type: I think the cap "L" sticks out too much.
Spontaneous thought, maybe you can find an italic whose slant angle (optically) matches the leg of the angel that's just above that double "l" now? That might be neat.
Really good improvement.
I'd suggest that the angel looks a little as though he's struggling up a hill, whereas in the photo of the monument he appears to be standing taller.
Wow, the new ones look really good. I agree with Altaira about the angle of the angel's neck.
I also like how the style of the lion's fire matches the torch.
I would angle the tip of the tail down and to the right slightly, to sort of fill (not completely) some of the negative space at the lion's ankle. Right now it is pointing directly at the leg. If you angle it down and to the right more, it will "point" to the words, helping to draw the eye down to the words.
Jko Hello, I think the new angel q even is not consistent with Leon in his style, the angel is very clean but the Leon have many details, are required to futurism Leon
Lion's front legs, and maybe angel's head, look a little spindly to me.
Much improvement!
Angel's neck...looks too long. I also agree with Luciano...the angel's wing doesn't match the rest of the style.
I think another problem with the neck is that it appears to be disconnected from the spine.
The Angel really needs to STAND in a correct posture.
Also, as someone said, the wings are a bit too geometric, they don't fit the style of the rest of the elements.
Keep working, the logo is making progress :)
I think maybe it doesn't need the angel's lower arm and its head looks a bit funny. And the lion's hips look a bit small and low? But I like the lion's head and angel's wing.


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