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A mother asks how to handle her first-grader's interest in Christmas: He wants to watch all the TV specials, he loves the lights and, hardest of all, he keeps asking to get a tree.
Dear Miriam,
My son is in first grade at a Jewish day school, but for some reason he's really into Christmas. He wants to watch all the TV specials, he loves the lights and, hardest of all, he keeps asking if we can get a tree. How should I handle this?
Pining for a Christmas Tree
P.S. I thought I could avoid all of this by investing in a day school education!
Dear Pining,
We can't pick what our kids obsess over. If we could, trust me, I wouldn't have had the exact same conversation about the zoo every night before bedtime for the past six weeks or made the same spinach casserole every week for the past year. I mean, the casserole is good, but it's not that good. Of course, when it's just some random thing that they're into, you can laugh it off or ignore it or try to turn it into something more palatable for you. Christmas is a tough one, though: Jewish kids wanting to take part in Christmas plays into so many insecurities about our kids being into our traditions and providing enough of a foundation that they're not going to choose the pretty lights over the paschal lamb.
(I'm projecting, of course. Last week, my 2.5-year-old daughter saw a Christmas tree and asked me what it was. I said, "We'll talk about it later," then asked a friend what I should say. She said, "Say it's a Christmas tree." I actually hadn't thought of that. Never mind the fact that my daughter encountered the tree during Shabbat services — the beauty of an independent minyan meeting in a shared community space — I was still insecure about how to respond.)
Your son is in a Jewish school, so it's not like his peers are celebrating Christmas and he feels left out from that social experience. So you can at least take comfort that this isn't coming from school. Nonetheless, even outside of home and school, he's exposed to enough of the rest of the world that he feels like he's missing out on something. You don't want him to feel sad or left out or anything else negative, so as strange and silly as it feels, maybe there are some positive ways to indulge his Christmas spirit without crossing any boundaries that feel uncomfortable to you.
On the years when Chanukah overlaps with Christmas, you can play off the "we have our own holiday" thing. But this year, that's much less convincing of an option, so try saying, "Christmas is a holiday that lots of people celebrate. It's not our holiday, but we can still enjoy some parts of it." Take him to see some of the especially festive streets around town, and maybe the Macy's light show or the holiday show in the Comcast building (I love both of these!). Let him watch the TV shows if he wants, but be there to explain some of the aspects that may end up not making any sense to him. (Personally, I find the plots of all Christmas specials totally baffling). If you'd really prefer to keep Rudolph away, let him have easy access to DVDs of all of his favorite shows and movies until Christmas is over.
Then there's the tree. Here's where you get to explain to your son that you have some traditions in your home and other people have other traditions in their homes. It's OK for you as Jews to enjoy the lights that someone else puts up, but it's not part of your tradition to have them in your own home. Christmas trees can be beautiful to look at, but it's not something you have in your house. If you have Christian friends who would be willing to let you come over and enjoy their tree for an afternoon, great. Or, you can head down to Rittenhouse Square to look at the big public tree. Try hard not to be dismissive and judgemental of his interest in Christmas, and try to make the remaining days of the Christmas season as joyous and fun for him as you'd want any other days of your son's life to be.
Be well,


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CINCINNATI (AP) -- Unseasonably high temperatures have made last month the warmest March recorded in the Cleveland and Cincinnati areas and set records elsewhere in Ohio.
The Cincinnati Enquirer reports the average temperature in that area was about 55 degrees, well above the average 43 degrees. The Plain Dealer reports Cleveland had an average high of just above 61 degrees. The temperatures in both cities narrowly beat records set in 1946.
The National Weather Service says Akron, Cleveland, Toledo and Youngstown each tied or broke previous records with runs of eight or more straight days of high temperatures reaching at least 70 degrees.
Columbus logged record highs for individual days six times and set its all-time high temperature for March at 85 degrees. Cincinnati and Dayton had record highs on five individual days.

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This year I have dived into my Physics and Art majors; I am hoping to become an architect. I am from Grants Pass, Oregon, and many other places. Now I live in Santa Barbara, California, where I am studying at Westmont College. I chose to study Physics because it is fascinating and challenging and beautiful. Finally solving a difficult problem is so satisfying. I want to study acoustics in particular, and eventually aspire to build concert halls and art museums. I find that physics and art are surprisingly interconnected; they are both an attempt to understand our world, though they have two very different approaches. There is undeniable grace in a plot of data, just as there are mathematical proportions evident in human faces. It has been such an adventure growing these aspects of who I am. I will continue walking toward the allure of tomorrow.


text: Chris Lau, Kapitall: Microsoft (MSFT) peaked recently at nearly $36 on anticipation that Xbox One would renew consumer interest in games. The company is up 33% this year, but the multiple advantages of Sony's (SNE) PlayStation 4 announcement could undermine the Xbox. It might be time for investors to take a profit in shares of Microsoft. [Read more from Chris Lau: These Suppliers are Set to Benefit from 80 Million Android Sales ] $499 Mispricing In the 90 minutes Microsoft spent introducing the Xbox One, the one thing that stuck out to the audience was the price tag. At $499, Microsoft is betting that consumers will strain their wallets by more than $100 – $150. Microsoft believes that bundling the Kinect device is needed so that every buyer will have a better experience with the Xbox. The very next day, Sony announced that the PS4 would be $100 less than the Xbox One. Copy Protection Sony also said that that there would be no restrictions when playing used games, nor will any online connectivity be required to play. Both are advantages over Microsoft's new Xbox. Xbox 360 Still matters Microsoft said that people who did not have online connectivity could still just get the Xbox 360. After the company announced a refreshed design on the Xbox 360, it indicated that the company will still be investing in the older console. Renewed interest in PC gaming Consumers who already have a PC could instead update their graphics card. NVIDIA's (NVDA) GTX-level graphics card sells for around the same price as an Xbox One. This would support games at high settings for 2 or 3 years, and medium graphics settings for even longer. Comparable AMD (AMD) graphics cards are also another option for consumers. AMD continues to be a favorite for investors as shares are holding their gains for 2013. AMD is up 62.5% this year. Conversely, NVIDIA is up 16% for the year.


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Jaipur, Oct 25 (IANS) Former Rajasthan minister of state for dairy and rural industries Babulal Nagar was Friday arrested over charges a married woman made that he had raped her, the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) said.
The agency issued a statement in this regard.
"A case was registered by CBI on Oct 8 against the former minister U/S 323 & 376 of IPC on the request of Rajasthan government and further notification from the government of India, it said.
"This case relates to allegations levelled by the complainant (victim) against the accused for causing hurt and committing rape on Sep 11," the statement said.
CBI had taken over the investigation of the case, earlier registered by Rajasthan Police vide FIR No.292/2013 at police station Sodala in Jaipur, the state capital.
The accused will be produced Saturday in the designated court at Jaipur.
Nagar, 53, resigned from the state cabinet two days after the FIR was registered Sep 17.
He was called to a government circuit house for interrogation by CBI Friday.
"He was interrogated from 11.30 a.m. to 6 p.m. today (Friday). After he could not give satisfactory answers to CBI questions, he was arrested. He will be produced before a court tomorrow (Saturday)," said a source close to the investigation agency.
Nagar represents Dudu constituency in Jaipur district.
In her police complaint, the 35-year-old woman alleged that Nagar called her to his official residence on the pretext of giving her a government job and raped her Sep 11.
Two other legislators of the ruling Congress party, Malkhan Singh and Mahipal Maderna, were suspended in December 2011 following allegations of sexual exploitation and murder of government nurse Bhanwari Devi.


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Boy, there are sure some knuckleheads on the other side. I hope the spirit of this charity game doesn't allow anybody to do anything stupid. But I wouldn't be surprised.
Here's a preview from USA Today, with rosters.
Maybe we should light up the Empire State Building in Orange crud.


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Assassin's Creed PCby Jarred Walton on 6/2/2008 3:00 AM EST
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Zak - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - linkI'm usually against AnandTech straying away from their core hardware reviews they've become famous for in the first place, but this is the best, most thorough, in-depth game review I have ever read! Very well done, most enjoyable reading. Thanks:)
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mustardman - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - linkI'm curious why Anandtech recommended Vista without comparing the performance of Windows XP. They didn't even have a test box running XP or did I miss it.
From my experience and experience from friends, Vista is still behind XP in gaming performance. In some cases, far behind.
Am I missing something? Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - linkWith modern DX10 GPUs, Vista is required to even get DX10 support. Having looked at DX9 Assassin's Creed, I can't say the difference is all that striking, but the DX10 mode did seem to run faster. (I could test if there's desire, but it will have to wait as I'm traveling this week and don't have access to the test systems used in this article.)
Personally, while Vista had some issues out of the gate, drivers and performance are now much better. XP may still be faster in some situations, but if you're running a DX10 GPU I can't see any reason to stick with XP. In fact, there are plenty of aspects of Vista that I actually prefer in general use.
Since this was primarily a game review, and I already spent 3x as much time benchmarking as I actually did beating the game, I just wanted to get it wrapped up. Adding in DX9 Vista vs. DX9 XP would have required another 20-30 hours of benchmarking, and I didn't think the "payoff" was worthwhile. Reply
Justin Case - Monday, June 02, 2008 - link[quote]Unlike Oblivion, however, all of the activity you see is merely a façade. The reality is that all the people are in scripted loops, endlessly repeating their activities.[/quote]
...which is exactly what Oblivion NPCs do (compounded by the fact that they all have the same handful of voices, that all voices use exactly the same sentences, and that some characters change voice completely depending on which scripted line they're repeating).
If anything, Oblivion's world feels even more artificial than Morrowind. One thing is the AI we were promised for Oblivion while the game was in development, another is what actually shipped. Most of the behaviors shown in the "preview videos" simply aren't in the game at all.
Even with the (many, and very good) 3rd party mods out there, Oblivion NPCs feel like robots.
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - linkOblivion NPCs can actually leave town, they sleep at night, they wander around a much larger area.... Yes, they feel scripted, but compared to the AC NPCs they are geniuses. The people in AC walk in tight loops - like imagine someone walking a path of about 500-1000 feet endlessly, with no interruptions for food, bed, etc. I'm not saying Oblivion is the best game ever, but it comes a lot closer to making you feel like it's a "real" world than Assassin's Creed.
But I still enjoyed the game overall. Reply
erwendigo - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkThis is a very old new, the DX10.1 suppor of this game eliminate one render pass BUT with a cost, a inferior quality image.
The render image isn´t equal to DX10 version, Ubisoft then dropped suport for DX10.1 in 1.02 patch.
A story very simple, nothing about conspiracy theory, or phantoms.
Anandtech guys, if you believe in these phantoms, then make a review with 1.01 patch (this is yet on this world, men, download and test the f***ing patch), otherwise, your credibility will disminish thanks to this conspiracy theory. Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - linkI tested with version 1.00 and 1.02 on NVIDIA and ATI hardware. I provided images of 1.00 and 1.02 on both sets of hardware. The differences in image quality that I see are at best extremely trivial, and yet 1.02 in 4xAA runs about 25% slower on ATI hardware than 1.00.
What is version 1.01 supposed to show me exactly? They released 1.01, pulled it, and then released 1.02. Seems like they felt there were some problems with 1.01, so testing with it makes no sense. Reply
erwendigo - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - linkWell, you writed several pages about the suspicious reasons of the dropped support of DX10.1.
If you sow the seeds of doubt, then you´ld have done a test for it.
The story of this dropped suport has a official version (graphical bugs), and in many forums users reported this with 1.01 patch (and DX10.1). Another version is the conspiracy theory, but this version hasn´t proof.
¿This is the truth? I don´t know, I can´t test this with my computer, but if you publish the conspiracy theory and test the performance and quality of 1.0 and 1.02 version, why don´t you do the same with 1.01 patch?
This is not about performance, this is to endorse your version of the story. With this, your words earn respect, without the test, your words are transformed into bad rumors. Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - linkI still don't get what you're after. Version 1.00 has DirectX 10.1 support; version 1.02 does not. Exactly what is version 1.01 supposed to add to that mix? Faulty DX10.1? Removed DX10.1 with graphical errors? I don't even know where to find it (if it exists), so please provide a link.
The only official word from Ubisoft is that DX10.1 "removed a rendering pass, which is costly." That statement doesn't even make sense, however, as what they really should have said is DX10.1 allowed them to remove a rendering pass, which was beneficial. Now, if it was beneficial, why would they then get rid of this support!?
As an example of what you're saying, Vista SP1 brings together a bunch of updates in one package and offers better performance in several areas relative to the initial release of the OS. So imagine we test networking performance with the launch version of Vista, and then we test it with SP1 installed, and we conclude that indeed somewhere along the way network performance improved. Then you waltz in and suggest that our findings are meaningless because we didn't test Vista without SP1 but with all the other standard updates applied. What exactly would that show? That SP1 was a conglomerate of previous updates? We already know that.
So again, what exactly is version 1.01 supposed to show? Version 1.02 appears to correct the errors that were seen with version 1.00. Unless version 1.01 removed DX10.1 and offered equivalent performance to 1.00 or kept DX10.1 and offered equivalent performance to 1.02, there's no reason to test it.
Maybe the issue is the version numbers we're talking about. I'm calling version 126.96.36.199 of the game - what the DVD shipped with - version 1.00. The patched version of the game is 220.127.116.11, so I call that 1.02. Here's what the 1.02 patch officially corrects:
* Fixed a rare crash while riding the horse in Kingdom
* Fixed a corruption of Altair's robe on certain graphics hardware
* Cursor is now centered when accessing the Map
* Fixed a few problems with Alt-Tab
* Fixed a graphical bug in the final fight
* Fixed a few graphical problems with dead bodies
* Fixed pixellation with post-FX enabled on certain graphics hardware
* Fixed a small bug in the DNA Menu that would cause the image to disappear if the arrow was clicked rapidly
* Fixed some graphical corruption in Present Room with low Level Of Detail
* Character input is now canceled if the controller is unplugged while moving
* Added support for x64 versions of Windows
* Fixed broken post-effects on DirectX 10.1 enabled cards
I've heard more about rendering errors on NVIDIA hardware with v1.00 than I have of ATI hardware having problems. I showed a (rare) rendering error in the images that happens with ATI and 4xAA, but all you have to do is lock onto a target or enter Eagle Vision to get rid of the error (and I never saw it come back until I restarted the game).
Bottom line is I have PROOF that v1.00 and v1.02 differ in performance, specifically in the area of anti-aliasing on ATI 3000 hardware. If a version 1.01 patch ever existed, it doesn't matter in this comparison. The conspiracy "theory" part is why Ubisoft removed DX10.1 support. If you're naive enough to think NVIDIA had nothing to do with that, I wish you best of luck in your life. That NVIDIA and Ubisoft didn't even respond to our email on the subject speaks volumes - if you can't say anything that won't make you look even worse, you just ignore the problem and go on your merry way. Reply
erwendigo - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - linkWell, you talk me about some links, then here have some of them:
The first and foremost:
In this one Rage3D (a proATI website) analyzes the reason of the dropped support of DX10.1, with a comparation of images of the different rendering modes.
In this article Rage3D people found several graphical bugs of the dx10.1, they described them as minor bugs, BUT I don´t think that the lack of some effects in the DX10.1 are minor bugs.
The DX10.1 with activated AA lacks of dust effect, and the HDR rendering is different from the DX10 version.
In Rage3D thinks that this show a DX10 bug in HDR rendering, because they said that Ubisoft declared that HDR rendering in DX9 and DX10 paths are identical, and they tested that DX10 and DX9 HDR rendering are different. This point could be true, but it´s something strange that the DX10 HDR rendering path was buggy in the release version of the game, and in the 1.01 patch too.
It´s more logic that the DX10 HDR was correct and the difference with DX10.1 HDR reflects different and buggy render path (Do you remember the lack of one render pass?).
The speedup of performance of 1.01 patch (in 3DRage test) in the game looks like your test results. Then, the lack of DX10.1 support in 1.02 patch doesn´t affect the performance. Yes, in DX10.1 looks like that the AA is better than in other paths, but with this version you have lack of dust effect and different (buggy or not?) HDR rendering. Good reasons for the dropped support, I think.
Consequences of your rumors about sinister dropped support:
Some people believe this version because you defend it in your review, but you didn´t test the veracity of this. The truth is that DX10.1 render path had bugs, and when you made the review, you didn´t know if the dropped support reason was the conspiracy theory or other reason, but YOU chose one by personal election.
That Ubisoft and Nvidia didn´t respond to your email post proved nothing. At most, they were bad-mannered guys with you.
geogaddi - Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - link
...now, what did i do with that babelfish...
ssgoten00 - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkAC was only an average game overall. Graphics presentation was it's strong suit but gameplay was lacking and the game seemed to drag on as the player progresses through the game. Undoubtedly the repetitiveness was the worst part of AC. Not simply the fact that is seemed like some tasks were a redue of previously accomplished tasks but the shear fact that tasks were repeated verbatim with same characters and voices, only changing dialogue to create variation. Some characters players will have to kill multiple times under the guise of actually killing different characters in the game. AC was also disappointing in the fact that it mislead gamers in presenting its self a a somewhat stealth game. Nothing could be further from the truth. In AC players will often be forced into full on combat with multiple opponents to progress in the storyline. In vary select situations players have the choice of using stealth as a viable option. Ironically the last 5 or 10 minutes at the very end of the game are the most compelling. After the credits roll players are left in the main room to explore and decrypt code and hidden messages. It's unfortunate AC's developers couldn't have spent more time on puzzles that actually pertained to gameplay. Out of a possible 10 I give Assassin's Creed a 6.0 barely coming in at par, bordering on subpar. Reply
Donkey2008 - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkIt does have a Thief feel but after playing it on Xbox, I found it to be more Thief meets BloodRayne meets Splinter Cell with some of the best graphics I have seen in a while. It is sorta repetitive,but the violence cut away any boredom I had. I enjoyed it a lot.
But I guess they could have done what other Rockin high-profile companies do and make an even more repetitive game exactly like its previous versions, but with a much worse soundtrack. Throw in some terribly low-res character models and reuse the same, bottom-of-the-barrel, cartoon-looking cutscenes and they would have a perfect 10 as well. Reply
poohbear - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkthis is the kind of game reviews i'd like to see, wherein hardware is tested w/ a game to show performance. I mean, you guys ARE a hardware site and there are'nt many sites that do game reviews w/ hardware testing shortly after. I dont think u should do game reviews without hardware testing cause there are a ton of game review sites, but your niche shines when you do these hardware and DX analysis. cheers and thanks for a very informative article. Reply
DesertCat - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkThe article talks about wanting to check the performance of Assassin's Creed on a Phenom processor (and its 4 cores). I can speak to that to some degree.
I have a Phenom 9600 (2.3 MHz) on an AM2 board (Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe) with an EVGA 8800GT OC (650 MHz). I play at 1280x1024 so I play in a letterbox mode. This processor is enough to run the game at acceptable frame rates but I would tend to think that a fast dual core would do just as well (like was found with the Intel processors in the article).
With the performance hurting TLB patch enabled, I noticed one area where frame rates truly took a nosedive: when doing the "look" pan from the top of one of those towers. I didn't have an fps counter on at the time, but I'm guessing it was in the 12-16 fps range based on the chunkiness I experienced. I got similar slow framerates when diving from those spots into the hay (especially the really high towers).
With the TLB patch disabled on my Phenom, those two low fps spots were much better. I'm guessing that those areas were in the low 20's of fps. The rest of the game was smooth as silk and probably above 40 fps. I do not, however, see high utilization on any particular core when I've checked.
If I was to point to areas that really stress a system in AC, I would say that the tower pan shots are the most common. (*minor spoiler ahead*) King Richard's speech from horseback about 3/4 the way through the game is also very intensive. Reply
aguilpa1 - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkI know I've had it for a long time? Reply
emboss - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkThe word you *are* looking for is possibly letterboxing? Reply
PrinceGaz - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkI was going to mention that as well. Anamorphic means the pixels making up the image are stretched either horizontally (as with wide-screen DVDs) or vertically when displayed. If the game were anamorphic, it would be like it running on a monitor at 1920x1080 but being rendered internally at some other resolution such as 1440x1080 and stretched to the displayed 1920x1080.
The correct description is what you said originally, that it allows only a 16:9 aspect-ratio view, so if I ran it on my monitor (1600x1200 native) the game itself would only use the central 1600x900 of that. Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - linkSorry - I saw the original comment and thought I corrected it. Missed the other two occurrences. I wasn't thinking and just used the word after reading the thread on widescreengamingforum.com about AC. (I was hoping someone had found a way around the locked letterbox view.) Reply
AnnihilatorX - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkThis review is great! I have never read a game review that includes all the analysis, benchmarks, gameplay video conveniently presented.
Excellent work! Reply
bill3 - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkActually it's terrible, I cant read the graphs AT ALL.
seriously my eyes just glazed over those terrible charts..completely unreadable. I still, have no idea what I'm looking at. Is ATI supposed to be faster in this game? Why did they test with version 1.00 on ATI and 1.2 on Nvidia? I dont know because the graphs are totally useless. Reply
Nihility - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkI second that. The graphs are terrible. Maybe bar graphs would have been better?
Sometimes when you're the one making the graph it's hard to imagine what other people are seeing when they look at them. I suggest having another pair of eyes check the graphs out for readability.
Besides that, I loved the review. Especially the performance part and the 10.1 controversy. Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - linkCharts are colored with similar colors used either for ATI vs. NVIDIA, 1.00 vs. 1.02, or dual-GPU vs. single-GPU. I could have generated four times as many graphs to show the same data, but I figure most people are capable of reading the labels on a chart and figuring out what they mean. Here's a hint: when you can't see the difference between two lines because they overlap, it's a tie.
If you want to give specific examples and recommendations on what would look better and still convey the same amount of information, I'm all ears. However, simply stating that "the graphs are terrible" does little to help. Tell me what graph specifically is terrible, and tell me why it's terrible.
As an example of why I used these graphs, page 9 has two charts showing 40 total data points. You can get a clear idea of how performance scales with single or dual GPUs at the various detail settings looking at a single chart. Green is NVIDIA, Red is ATI. That makes a lot of sense to me. Creating ten different bar charts with four lines in each to show the same data makes it more difficult to compare how Medium graphics compares to High graphics performance, and it takes up five times as much space to tell the same "story".
Page 6 is the same thing, but with green used for dual-GPUs (light and dark for 1.00 and 1.02) and red for single GPUs. 24 data points in two charts instead of using six charts. Having established that 1.00 doesn't perform any different than 1.02 on NVIDIA hardware, I skipped the 1.00 NVIDIA numbers to make those charts easier to read on page 7. Then I put in the four standard test system (0xAA and 4xAA, ATI and NVIDIA) on 1.02, with 1.00 4xAA ATI in blue as a reference.
Lastly, on page 8 I have two clock speeds on NVIDIA, three on ATI, with different base colors for single and dual GPUs. ATI and NVIDIA are in separate charts, and brighter colors are for a higher overclock.
There's method to my graphing madness. Are the charts immediately clear to a casual glance? No, but then that's really difficult to do while still conveying all of the information. I spent a lot of time trying to make comprehensible charts, and settled on these as the best option I could come up with. Again, if they're so bad, it must be easy to generate something clearly better - have at it, and I'll be happy to use any sensible suggestions. However, if the only complaint is that you actually have to look at the charts and think for a minute before you understand, I'm not likely to be very sympathetic. I think our readers are smart enough to digest these graphs. Reply
mpjesse - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkWhile I appreciate the detailed review, isn't it a little irrelevant now? I mean, the game's been out for nearly 2 months now and it's been reviewed everywhere. The only thing new about this review are the performance benchmarks, in which case I would have have made the review solely about performance instead of gameplay.
Just my 2 cents. Reply
ImmortalZ - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkIts sad that the companies with money always manage to suppress innovation.
I hope this article by AT will raise some ruckus in the collective Interwebs and cause something. But I doubt it. Reply
ViRGE - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkFor what it's worth, another forum I read had some screenshots comparing DX10 and DX10.1. The problems the poster had managed to find involved trees; there was some kind of post-processing rendering going on with trees that wasn't occurring with DX10.1, which made them look weird.
Not fixing 10.1 may be an NVIDIA thing, but there was definitely a problem with it as-is. Reply
tuteja1986 - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkWell why where the hell is nvidia dx10.1 support if dx10.1 actually brings some kind of performance improvement in AA.
Why aren't GT200 series have DX10.1 ?
I thought PC gaming was all about being the cutting edge on all technology front...
Anyways , this is not the 1st time Ubisoft or Nvidia have done this.
wyemarn - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkMaybe because Nvidia GPUs cant support AA through shaders. So no use supporting dx 10.1. ATI GPUs have 320 stream processors so it can utilize for shaders and etc. Nvidia cards have less SPs but more ROPs, TMUs which translates to more brute power if games dont use shaders or SPs much. Technology wise, I think ATI is ahead but NVIDIA GPUs have game developer support and more raw horsepower so performance wise NVIDIA is ahead and I think this trend will continue with GTX200 series. I choosed G92 over RV670 because the raw performance is much better even though on paper HD 3800 series look great. Reply
SteelSix - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkWorthy of a thread in Video. I just started one.. Reply
Gannon - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkThe original halo had performance issues but they weren't alarming, halo was actually not too bad port compared to many other console to PC disasters. Halo 1 got 'better with hardware' advancing. Halo 2 on the other hand is just all around atrocious. Halo 2 was just not a very well made game, period, despite the addition of cutscenes, etc. Halo 1 had a much better feel and better vehicle design IMHO, I hated how the warthog looked in Halo 2, it annoyed me to no end. Reply
Griswold - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkThats no excuse. Halo sucked performance and gameplay wise compared to the PC-first titles of then - and that is what matters. In essence, the game is bad when you're used to play that genre on the PC. Same is true for gears of war but that port is lackluster in many more ways.
I fell two times for console to PC ports. Never again. Reply
bill3 - Monday, June 02, 2008 - linkThe even worst shooter is Resistance on PS3. Reply


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LAS VEGAS — Jeff Stoughton is arguably curling better this month than he ever has in his long and illustrious hall of fame career.
And that's too bad. Really too bad.
Because the stark reality is Winnipeg's Stoughton would be be on his way to Sochi to represent Canada at at next month's Winter Olympics if he curled nearly as well at December's Roar of the Rings at the MTS Centre as he has the past couple of weeks.
A week after dominating in Banff, Alta., at a big-money skins event, Stoughton has been nothing short of sensational again at the Continental Cup, authoring highlight shot after highlight shot, including an impossible in-off double takeout Friday night in his game against Scotland's David Murdoch that turned what was looking like a certain steal of two for Murdoch into a single for Stoughton.
It was easily the best shot of this Ryder Cup-style competition thus far and it brought the big crowd at Orleans Arena to its feet for a standing ovation.
So exactly how well has Stoughton been curling this month? Well, consider this tweet sent by his longtime third Jon Mead last weekend as Stoughton and a team of all-stars was stomping the competition in Banff and taking down $70,500 of a possible $100,000 in winnings at the TSN Skins Game.
"Stoughtie is bringin' it today. Makin' us remember the days of the middle part and feathered hair. #hesnotdoneyet," Mead tweeted.
And the cruel irony that it's all happening this month, not last? Well, that also wasn't lost on Mead. "What a first shot by Stoughtie," Mead tweeted during the same final game. "Guess he has been saving them up. #whynow."
Why now, indeed?
"That's just the way curling has always been — it's so up and down. And for everybody, not just us," Stoughton said Saturday. "It's a cruel little sport sometimes. And frustrating. And in Canada, we've got probably 6-10 teams that are so strong and every one of them can win.
"We look back now at the Trials and I'm still not sure what happened exactly. We had great practices, we were playing at home in Winnipeg, we all felt pretty good going in. Our mindset was really good. But we just never did get the buzz going for ourselves to get the crowd going.
"And then we played really, really good in our first two games and we got nothing out of it. We didn't even have a sniff. And we were like, 'Wow, what's it going to take to win this thing?' And from there, we started to struggle a bit. But that's just curling. Everyone says it's the inch, but really it's the millimetre.
"It's disappointing, sure. But really, I'd rather lose the way we did, where we didn't even make the playoffs, then lose the final. Because I've lost a Trials final before (in 2005, to Brad Gushue) and that was gut-wrenching."
Stoughton is 50 and said prior to the Trials he will not pursue another four-year Olympic cycle, meaning the loss at the MTS Centre was his last chance to fill the only hole remaining on a curling resume that includes 10 Manitoba titles, three Briers and two world titles.
So how do you go from the sobering realization your Olympic dream is over forever to being at the very top of your game in six short weeks?
"We talked about it a couple of weeks after the Trials and said as a team, 'You know what? We put so much into this — let's have a good second half of the year and still get something out of it,' " Stoughton explained.
"Yeah, obviously I'd have loved to have played better at the Trials. But I guess it just wasn't meant to be. So we took about a month off after the Trials and finally stepped back on to the ice just a couple days before we headed out to Banff.
"And it felt pretty good. And went pretty good. So hopefully it just continues the rest of the season. I'm just enjoying the game and having fun again. The disappointment of the Trials is now over."
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First off, bravo to these guards for voicing their concerns and holding their company and leaders accountable. I also want to say thanks to POGO for putting this out there, both on their blog and over at Foreign Policy magazine.
As I read through this post, it looks to me like the company's leaders have done a terrible job of listening to their guard force's concerns about security or even about the day to day operations of the company. And if the actions of the company and these leaders are causing folks to leave, then that only creates more problems for the guys on the ground because they work more hours and get burned out.
Another point I want to bring up is that today's security contracting industry is filled with combat seasoned contractors who know exactly what is needed to actually provide security in a war zone. If these guys are recognizing deficiencies in the security apparatus of the embassy, then it would behoove the leadership to listen to these concerns and make adjustments. Especially after such incidents like what happened in Benghazi.
They should be thanking these men for actually caring about the mission and the defense of the facility, and bringing these concerns forward. Instead, it looks like the ego of these leaders is more important and they have chosen to fire or reprimand those who actually spoke up. Shameful….
On that note, it makes no sense at all for a leader or leaders of a security force to not listen to this pool of combat veterans, security contractor veterans or police veterans, that when combined, would have years of experience and knowledge. It should be the goal of that leadership to tap into that pool of 'human resource', and take full advantage of that. To use that resource to build a better security apparatus or use it as part of their Kaizen or continuous improvement plan, and then reward that resource by giving them the credit and encouraging them to do it again and again. Call it collaboration or team work, and it works if you actually allow it to happen and know how to use it.
People will also support what they help to create, which is a Jundism. It is also a great way of showing that you are not a toxic leader.
Either way, we will see how this turns out? Obviously this is a black eye on the management of Aegis because it got to this level, and some changes are in order if they intend to hang onto this contract. –Matt
Edit: 01/24/2013- It sounds like four of the guards have filed a $5 million lawsuit against Aegis for being told to lie on their time sheets. The law firms they are using are The Employment Law Group and Lichten & Liss-Riordan. Here is a link to the court filing.
A "Mutiny" in Kabul: Guards Allege Security Problems Have Put Embassy at Risk
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Private guards responsible for protecting what may be the most at-risk U.S. diplomatic mission in the world — the embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan — say security weaknesses have left it dangerously vulnerable to attack.
In interviews and written communications with the Project On Government Oversight (POGO), current and former guards said a variety of shortcomings, from inadequate weapons training to an overextended guard force, have compromised security there — security provided under a half-a-billion-dollar contract with Aegis Defense Services, the U.S. subsidiary of a British firm. "[I]f we ever got seriously hit [by terrorists], there is no doubt in my mind the guard force here would not be able to handle it, and mass casualties and mayhem would ensue," a guard serving at the embassy wrote in a late November message to POGO.
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In July, dissatisfaction boiled over when more than 40 members of the embassy's Emergency Response Team signed a petition sounding an alarm about embassy security, people familiar with the document said. The petition, submitted to the State Department and Aegis, expressed a "vote of no confidence" in three of the guard force leaders, accusing them of "tactical incompetence" and "a dangerous lack of understanding of the operational environment." Two guards say they were quickly fired after organizing the petition, in what they called "retaliation."
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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805: 2.5GHz, 128-bit Memory Interface, D3D11-class Graphics & Moreby Anand Lal Shimpi on 11/22/2013 11:00 AM EST
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FwFred - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkI see this more of a split of the Qualcomm line between high end smartphones and tablets than I see this as a successor to the Snapdragon 800. At 28nm and without a radio, it's pretty clear this thing is intended for tablets only. As Ars showed, it's pretty clear Qualcomm is thermally limited at 28nm, and going much wider/faster won't really help. Reply
dgingeri - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkGimme a Windows RT tablet based on this bad boy! I like it! Reply
lmcd - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkI'd love to see Windows RT/Phone first to the market with this chip. To me, that'd be the new dawn: launch-day parity with Android on power. Apps are coming, but lackluster devices (and the whole AT&T Nokia exclusive thing) really hurt Windows Phone and Windows RT. Reply
Krysto - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkThat will probably never happen, as Microsoft needs to support multiple devices at once, and they are too slow with development. Reply
Sabresiberian - Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - linkTheir new offerings coming out in December feature the Snapdragon 800. That puts them just months behind in terms of releasing tablets and phones with the top SoC. I expect Windows phones to actually catch up this year, releasing top hardware models at the same time as Android phones. Reply
cheshirster - Friday, November 29, 2013 - link920, 820 and 8Х were amongst the first msm8960 phones.
And 620 with msm8227. Reply
Ekitrak - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkI would love to see this in a new Nexus 10 next summer. Omg just the possibility is getting me excited! Reply
Suneater - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkI can hardly believe that a 160 GFLOPS chip can win new Nexus 10 over a 400 GFLOPS Tegra 5. Google should be completely blind if they'll make it happen. Reply
A5 - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkHaha Reply
guidryp - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkSo you are still believing NVidia Hype after the Tegra 1, Tegra 2, Tegra 3 and Tegra 4 all turned up a day late and a dollar short? Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkif you don't see how well Nvidia improved their SoCs, generation after generation, then you are blind ! T4 is a major speed bump with great performance, topping many CPU and GPU benchmarks.
T5 Logan with mobile Kepler on HPM process will be another giant bump, thus its not so hard to believe that it will easily lead the pack in the performance field... Reply
guidryp - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkOf course they improved.
But you are really blind if you didn't notice the competitors improve as well, usually leaving the hyped NVidia chips out of the picture. Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkI'm not blind at all.
T2: a flop, not even needed to talked about it.
T3: was outperformed on day1. It really lagged behind but got some robust design wins.
T4: even with the late launch, is on part with the fastest competitive SoC, Qualcomm S800. Note that its even more impressive that T4 uses lower HPL process, giving 20~30% advantage on S800
T5: A15r4 at 2.3GHz on same HPM process than S805. And desktop class Kepler GPU (not the crippled mobile version of Adreno 420).
Conclusion, its very clear that each generation Nvidia improves much faster than the competition. It's not hype, these are facts. Reply
guidryp - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkTegra 4 on par?
[img]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/oimg?key=0AvRw...[/img] Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkhow easy... me too I can also handpick a bench:
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph7508/59980... Reply
guidryp - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkYours is an isolated subsystem. Mine is full GPU game emulation. Reply
Suneater - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkAnd now try to find results from 3dMark mobile benchmark and see how much Tegra 4 better than Snapdragon 800. There are a lot of benchmarks. It's stupid to decide based on the results from only one of them! Reply
guidryp - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkJust make sure you are looking at the offscreen tests, and not the onscreen test with a low res Tegra 4 device. Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkBullsh*t !!! Offscreen and onscreen are both important, that's why Anand shows both.
Offscreen provides normalized scores, very useful to compare GPUs running on same resolution.
But Onscreen provides scores at the device resolution, the one people must look at to see how the device will perform in real world.
Thanks to Onscreen scores, we can clearly see that SoCs are not yet powerful enough to drive these insane resolutions at descent frame rate. Much better to have a lower resolution but smooth gameplay than a choppy retina one. Thats why I enjoy so much my Tegra Note 7, its screaming fast with all the games, even the heaviest ones. And it will still be fast next year with the new demanding games... Reply
infra_red_dude - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkYou'd settle for 1280x800 instead of 1920x1080 just because the GPU cannot handle it? I'm not sure majority of the crowd would agree with you. But then everyone is entitled to have their own opinion :) Reply
ArthurG - Saturday, November 23, 2013 - linkdon't assume things you don't know... this tablet being used a lot by a child, performance in games was on point, but the stylus was the deal maker Reply
Tehk17 - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkT4 isn't close to S800 in GPU performance. That's much more important than minor differences in CPU performance at this stage. Reply
tuxRoller - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkT4 is pretty fast in single thread benchmarks but it still hasn't moved to a modern gpu and it's power hungry. They need to give up the companion core and either move to fully power planed cpus, or big.LITTLE. Reply
Impulses - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkIronically they had more design wins with their most crippled SoC (Tegra 2) and it's only gone downhill from there... Reply
Krysto - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkNvidia just needs to stop with the "tablet chip" crap, that Intel is trying to pull, too. I hate it when they do that, because that's just code word for "our chip is not efficient enough for smartphones and maybe we'll have one that is 6 months later".
So they need to start from the ground up - from the smartphone level, with their chip making process, and then increase clock speed or whatever, to make a slightly faster version for tablets, even though I think it's unnecessary, and it just means the power consumption rate will be bigger on tablets than smartphones (yes tablets have bigger batteries, but they shouldn't be used to "compensate" for a more power hungry chip like that).
Nvidia said Kepler is very efficient, but we don't know yet what that means in practice. Will they keep it at under 1W of power, or will they make it ridiculously overpowered and consuming like 3+W of energy? I'm hoping it's the former, not the latter.
I also think their delays are getting very annoying. They need to start firing people there. Kepler was supposed to arrive in Tegra 4, and Maxwell and Denver were supposed to be there in Tegra 5. They are 1 year behind their original schedule. That's just ridiculous. Now it means they won't have an ARMv8 chip in 2014 at all. They better have their Tegra 6 at 16nm FinFET shipping in Q1 2015. Reply
melgross - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkNvidia is famous for overhyping their products. Their own tests. Which they happily share with the world, or used to, were always far better in results than the real world tests done here, and in other places. I never trust anything they have to say. Reply
oranos - Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - linkBuddy, Nvidia can announce a 2TFLOP mobile chipset tomorrow. It doesn't matter. The point is that Qualcomm has it's chipsets in actual phones now. You can go and purchase a myriad of options. Tegra is nothing but a epeen measuring contest for Nvidia until they can get market share in the mobile space. Reply
Suneater - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkYou can not listen to Nvidia marketing, but they never lied with their numbers. There's no doubt that Logan will be the most powerful mobile SoC in 2014. I can only agree that Tegra 1, 2, 3 were worse than the competition and tegra 4 equal but not better. Tegra 5 is a completely different story though. Reply
melgross - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkWhat? Their numbers have been wrong more than they have been right. Reply
Suneater - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkOk, show me at least one example when they lied! They announced Tegra 4 and showed perf graphics where Tegra 4 was about 10% more powerful than SoC in iPad 4. And it actually turned out to be much more than 10% more powerful (115 GFLOPS in Xiaomi Mi3 vs 76 GFLOPS in iPad 4). So NVidia actually underrates its SoCs! Reply
Suneater - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkI'm waiting for any examples of Nvidia lies with their numbers (in NVidia's favor)... Reply
GTX420 - Thursday, December 26, 2013 - linkgiven NV is still new to the mobile scene, i think they're doing quite well. Also, using Vanilla flavored ARM CPUs will have it's drawbacks compared to QC. However, T4 is FASTER than S800 on the CPU side. I think T5 will be awesome, this is probably why QC has to come out with S805, wo modem, how else will they compete with T5's Kepler? i honestly think S805 won't even be able to compete with T5 Kepler. T5 Kepler still probably has A15, hope it's 64bit, however, i'm sure if A15, it'll be updated CPUs with more effiency and power. Reply
fteoath64 - Friday, November 29, 2013 - linkThis is provided Nvidia has to DELIVER Logan in order to get any design win. The T4 was plagued with delays left and right so badly that it missed the boat and the Tegra 4i is not even shipped in any product to date. That is supposedly just an improved A9 core and newer gpu cores limited 60. If Logan can deliver and live up to its power/performance gain, then it will clearly win. But until then, the 805 seems like sooner to market than Logan ever will be!. Besides, Qualcomm can evolve this into several models within the 8XX model ranges to address different price points and power requirements of their target devices. A very clever move as they have done with Krait from the get-go. No wonder Qualcomm gets all the design wins and yet keep reasonable supply and potentially good price points to attract many OEMs to built on their chips. The taiwanese competitors on the mid to low end is catching up fast with different evolutions and very low price points to compete. I would like to seen Qualcomm match a few of these with more powerful gpu cores at the expense of CPU cores just to ensure the target phones/tablets remain competitively priced for the market. Reply
sutamatamasu - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkto anandtech please for use 'dual
channel memory' instead '128 bit
memory' after apple launch apple a7
SOC some android noob user not see
apple soc is new arm v8 chip and only
know apple is make a 'waste' 64 bit. i
know this '128 bit' is not related to arm
core. but please for not using 'bit' many
newbie user still thinking 128 bit is
related to core ic Reply
frostyfiredude - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkThat wouldn't be correct, these SoCs don't use the channel approach that DDR1/2/3 uses. DDR4 is moving to the same 128-bit wide interface rather than a pair of 64-bit channels as well so these "android noob user" will need to learn the difference either way as it'll be everywhere come 2014. Reply
extide - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkAs mentioned by the other comment, specifying the bit width is the best way to go. It's 128 bit wide, it could be 4 x 32-bit, or 2x 64, or whatever. The most correct and clear thing to say is the width of the interface. I kinda wish desktop CPU's would stop with the single/dual/triple/quad channel crap, honestly, although it is pretty well known that desktop memory is 64bits wide per channel. Reply
Suneater - Friday, November 22, 2013 - link40% increase in graphics horsepower you say? And what about 300% increase of Tegra 5 (Logan) which is going to be available this winter. This 805 is going to be nothing compared to Nvidia Tegra 5! Reply
A5 - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkYes, Nvidia is well noted for delivering on their marketing BS in the Tegra line. Reply
Suneater - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkWhat BS are you talking about? The performance of Tegra 4 is essentially the same as of Snapdragon 800 and Qualcomm was bullshitting us that 800 would be much faster. Reply
guidryp - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkFunny when I google I only see early reports how Tegra 4 was going to be the fastest SoC, but when I see benhmark tests like this:
Tegra 4 is lagging again, just like Tegra 3, Just like Tegra 2, Just like Tegra 1.
5th times the charm? I'll wait and see on that. It could happen but NVidia has cried wolf to long for me to ever believe them again. Reply
Suneater - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkNow I see what kind of sites you use as source of information. Even there you can notice that tegra 4 actually won in two tests. Try to see results from different benchmarks and you'll see that 800 lead only in half of tests while tegra 4 in other half. So they have essentially equal performance. Reply
guidryp - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkNVidia leads in isolated triangle tests and the like (which are irrelevant).
But they fall behind in high level test that actually emulate running a whole game.
They are behind again on the GPU side. Just like all the previous releases. Which is kind of funny for a GPU company to take 4 generations at this, and still come up short on the GPU side. Reply
Suneater - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkOK, you think 3dMark is irrelevant? Don't be sick! Tegra 4 is much more powerful than 800 almost in all 3dMark tests! Reply
oranos - Thursday, November 28, 2013 - linkyes. It's irrelevant as we don't know how much they will be underclocked to be functional in mobile devices. Reply
Nagorak - Saturday, November 23, 2013 - linkWell, didn't Qualcomm buy ATi's/AMD's mobile graphics division? It's not exactly like they came into the game at square one. I guess that was a pretty big mistake for AMD to sell that. Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkIt was a huge mistake for AMD. on the other hand, seeing how long it took fusion to come to market, and how well AMD tablet proccesors are selling, with not a single mainstream product using them, it was a great move by snapdragon to nab them. Reply
Kidster3001 - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - linkYes they did. They renamed it Adreno is an anagram for Radeon. Reply
althaz - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkYou are correct that Tegra 4 ~= Snapdragon 800 for CPU...but for GPU Snapdragon 800 still has a clear (not large, but not small either) advantage.
Power wise it seems superior as well.
So with Snapdragon you get similar CPU, better GPU and less power. Why would anybody use Tegra 4 again? Reply
Suneater - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkTegra 4 is better for gaming. There are a lot of mobile games with specific visual effects available only on Nvidia chips. Nvidia has close ties with lots of mobile game developers. Deal with it! That's a great reason to choose Tegra 4 even if it's really a little bit less powerful than 800. Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkWhy don't you take Anand comprehensive benchs suite instead of an amateur limited blog ? look at Tegra Note 7 or Ipad mini retina reviews here. Tegra4 is leading the pack in many benchs. This round, whatever you say, Tegra is on par with the fastest SoCs, thing that never happened before. Reply
Nagorak - Saturday, November 23, 2013 - linkWell, you can't exactly blame a company for hyping their own products. I'm more interested in seeing how Intel's next Atom stacks up. It looks like they're focusing on boosting graphics performance more than anything, and they already have good CPU performance. We'll just have to wait and see how it pans out. Reply
oranos - Thursday, November 28, 2013 - linkprove it. Name a phone that will have tegra 5 this winter. Lol. Reply
oranos - Thursday, November 28, 2013 - linkActually scratch that. Name a phone I can go and buy in a store in the USA that has tegra 5 this winter. Reply
HardwareDufus - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkInterestingly enough Qualcomm claims that MDM9x35 (4th gen cat 6 LTE modem) will be available for pairing (Fusion) with Snapdragon 805 which was announced today, (both are manufatured o the 28nm process.) Buying a 6" cell phone equipped in this manner running Windows Phone 8.1 this upcoming summer. It will be my computer away from my computer. Reply
iwod - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkWell the 9x35 is actually on 20nm Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkAnand, what about D3D11 level ? is it the basic 9.3 implementation ? And what about OpenGL support ? mobile version ES 3.0 or full 4.3 ?
If Qualcomm said nothing about these, I suspect that Adreno 420 will only have low level support for these APIs. IMHO, this time Qualcomm will lose against Tegra5. too small improvements on GPU side. Maybe 2014 will be for Nvidia in high-end SoCs.
Whatever will happen, very interesting time to come... Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkAnd I would like to add that next round, with S805, Qualcomm won't have a process advantage like now with S800 on TSMC HPM vs Tegra4 on TSMC HPL. Electrical parameters of HPM is 20~30% better than HPL. Its a big deal.
This winter, different story, both Tegra 5 and S805 will be on TSMC HPM. Knowing that
Tegra 4 A15r2 at 1.8Ghz is already at same CPU performance than Krait400 at 2.3GHz, I suspect Tegra 5 A15r4 at 2.3GHz will easily beat Krait450 at 2.5GHz... Reply
syxbit - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkNot to doubt Nvidia's claims for the Tegra 5, but....
1. Isn't it a bit embarrassing that Nvidia is the only Mobile GPU vendor not to have full Open GL ES 3.0 support? (Mali, Adreno and PowerVR all do it, and now Android 4.3+ and iOS 7 are OpenGL ES 3.0 enabled!)
2. Nvidia has a habit of always comparing to old SoCs. With the T4, they were boasting that it beat the A6X by just a couple of GFLOPs. Then the A7 came out two months later and destroyed it.
3. Arm's A15 has shown to be a complete dud. Samsung failed with it, and so did Nvidia. Qualcomm and Apple both make FAR superior designs. Just look at the Nvidia Shield. The thing needs a fan! And there are hardly any buyers for the SoC (and almost all are Tablets, as thermally it just sucks).
3. Nvidia announcing the Tegra 4i is a complete joke. Who is going to want a Cortex A9 next year ? Only the contract free phones, and even then, you're better off with a mid-range Snapdragon. They were 18 months late on that one :). Oh, and it's still single channel 32-bit. What a joke. Arm realized their massive gap between A7 and A15, and that's why they designed the A12. Only that's also too late (and by the time it comes out, we'll all be on 64-bit SoCs anyway, so who cares).
Also, Nvidia has already admitted that they won't have a 64-bit SoC until T6, which will probably come out H1 2015. That's almost 2 years behind Apple/intel. I'm guessing Android will go 64-bit some time in 2014, so if Qualcomm and Intel both have 64-bit SoCs by then, who is going to want the T5?
So in summary:
T2 was terrible (they didn't have NEON support, which was critical in Android).
T3 had an abysmal GPU and single channel 32-bit memory interface. Typically paired with poor storage in budget devices.
T4 doesn't have Open GL ES 3.0 support, and thermally is pretty bad. Doesn't have on board radios, which is why it isn't in phones.
T4i What a joke. Let's leave it at that.
T5 ? Well, it is full OpenGL 4, so that's good, particularly for Windows, but not really that valuable for Android right now. But considering it's 8+ months away, and it's 32-bit A15, I'm a little concerned.
T6 ? This one could be really good. Too bad it's 18 months away at a minimum. Reply
Suneater - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkT5 8+ months away????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will be available this winter (probably in January). And 805 will be released only 5-6 months after that! Open your eyes! I'm sure by the end of 2014 there will be 64-bit logan. People, you are so blind! Reply
syxbit - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkThe T5 will absolutely not be available on or before January. Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkAgree. If Nvidia boss is to be believed, T5 devices will be on shelves around May.
And S805 will follow shortly one or two months later.
With competing products available at nearly same time, this will be a very interesting round ! Reply
djgandy - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkDepends what definition of available you use. Tegra 4 was available in 2012 if you use Nvidia's version. Reply
sherlockwing - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkAvaliable this Winter? Have you forgotten how long it took between Tegra 4's announcement at CES(Jan,2013) to Shield actually shipping(July 31, 2013)? Tegra 5 have not even been officially announced. Reply
sherlockwing - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkIt will be announced in Q1 according to Nvidia, and judging by its track record won't be shipping until Q3.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nvidia-Tegra-4i-and... Reply
Suneater - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkOk, I see now. Thanks for the info. I think i'm going to buy Tegra Note 7 now that is to long to wait till Tegra 5. It's very cheap anyway. Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - link1- I agree its very disappointing. But and its a big BUT, quality is better than features. Look here to see what a developer thinks about current mobile drivers state: https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2013/09/26/dolphin-em...
And many devs think the same. That's why Tegra5 will be a big deal
2. I don't agree. T4 is not "destroyed" by any current SoC. It's on par. Look at Anand ipad air review, Tegra4 is leading many benchs and never far (except those hardware accelerated that showcase ARMv8 arch).
3. I have a Tegra Note 7 and its not hotter than an Ipad or a S600 Nexus. Stop spreading FUD
3. (again ? should be 4.) Tegra4i is a very interesting SoC, well positioned for the intended mid range market. 4 A9r4 cores at 2.3GHz on HPM with good GPU will destroy S600 in performance, will have same features (integrated icera 500 soft modem) and for a fraction of the cost. It's a very important SoC for nvidia because it will bring big volumes. Rendez-vous in Q1 2014 and you will see
64 bit support: totally irrelevant on T5 time-frame. Performance difference will be a much higher buying factor.
Summary: T5 is being demoed and at OEMs since August 2013 and will be in devices on Q2 2014 as said Nvidia boss few weeks ago in a financial conf call. Reply
guidryp - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkYou mean the iPad air review where it is compared to Lower Res Nvidia Shield that uses a Fan to keep to GPU cool?
Some of the GPU scores are also run at native resolution 2048x1536 for iPad, 1280x720 for the Shield.
So wow. When cooled by a Fan, the NVidia chip can eek out some wins, driving less than half the pixels. Reply
syxbit - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkAs for your dolphin-emu link, I don't see how it's relevant
" we are really curious to see how good NVIDIA drivers for the Tegra 4 SoC are. We couldn't get hold of a device powered by Tegra 4 yet...."
They are saying that regular Nvidia GPUs are great. They didn't test the T4. Not only that, but they said that they've rewritten their app to use Open GL ES 3.0, which means it wouldn't even run on a T4... Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkit doesn't run on Qualcomm too and their broken papersheet ES3.0 :roll_smiley_will_be_nice_here:
Sarcasm aside, you missed my point. The important information is not if it will run or not on T4, because its based on a very old nv mobile arch. The important thing is that Logan will have de facto the robust nv kepler drivers and it will be a dream come true for many devs : that what basically the guy expects in the dolphin article. Reply
syxbit - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkI'm really looking forward to it. Do you think the T5 will have integrated Icera? This is absolutely required if they want to sell well on phones. Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkI'm not sure, for that, we must wait the CES announcement... Reply
djgandy - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkYou really think that the drivers will just be desktop kepler drivers? Seriously man, stop smoking the wacky stuff. The hardware may be kepler based, but you are addressing a completely different market to desktop, and that means massive changes to hardware if you don't want to pay a huge penalty in power consumption. You can't just move a desktop driver, targeted at computers that have huge performance advantages (core i5/i7's, more memory, larger caches) to a mobile device without paying a huge penalty. Reply
infra_red_dude - Friday, November 22, 2013 - link"Adreno 420 brings about a D3D11-class feature set to Qualcomm's mobile graphics, adding support for hull, domain and geometry shaders. Adreno 420 also includes dedicated tessellation hardware."
That should answer your question. Reply
ArthurG - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkwell if they are level 11 with hull/domain/geometry, it must also have DirectCompute (CS5.0) but they say nothing about it. That's why I ask. Reply
blanarahul - Saturday, November 23, 2013 - linkCongratulations. You are the first fanboy I have seen here on Anandtech. And I have been closely following this website for over a year. Reply
melgross - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkYou mean the first Nvidia fanboy? Because there are plenty of others for the rest of the platforms. Reply
Krysto - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkYup, 9.3 implementation, which means "D11 class graphics" headline by Anandtech is very misleading. He should know better. OpenGL ES 3.0 as usual. Don't expect anyone else by Nvidia to move to the full openGL within the next 2 years or so at least, and by that point, they might just move to something like OpenGL ES 4.0.
Nvidia could move much faster than the others, because they are actually using their "desktop class GPU", which already supported OpenGL 4.3. I think they said it will actually support 4.4 at arrival. Reply
Krysto - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkHm. Guess I was wrong. It does support more features than 9.3. But that makes it even more shameful for Qualcomm not to support anything greater than OpenGL ES 3.0, considering Android is by far their biggest market, and Windows RT tablets aren't going anywhere fast.
Tegra 5 looks to be the best gaming chip by far next year for Android devices. Oh well, Qualcomm's loss. Reply
Mayuyu - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkHow about improving IPC instead of raising clock speeds? Fast dual core at low clock speeds has been proven to be best design. Look at Core 2 Duo and Apple's A7. People want thin, light, and long lasting (battery) devices. Reply
whyso - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkA7 is quite power hungry and core sizes are very large (larger than quad A15). Reply
melgross - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkIt's not, really. It works very well in the iPhone 5s. How many of these other chips will be capable of working in a phone? Reply
BoneAT - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkI like the current SD800/Adreno 330 combo (except for the excessive drainage in heavy gaming, which is larger than ever), it makes the Nexus 5 very snappy.
Speaking of, whatever happened to the Nex5 review, maybe I missed it? Reply
paul_59 - Saturday, November 23, 2013 - linkWith the 805 reported to be sampling to OEMs already, with the intention to ship devices to consumers in the first half of 2014 this would seem to make the yet to be released ( to end users) Snapdragon 800 ac redundant. Reply
SydneyBlue120d - Saturday, November 23, 2013 - link"I'd expect the transition to 64-bit ARMv8 to happen for Qualcomm next year."
Do You think that by the end of the year we will have devices in store running ARMv8 or just a press release like this, pushing real products in 2015? Thanks a lot :) Reply
ArthurG - Saturday, November 23, 2013 - linkI think many SoCs are waiting for 20nm to adopt ARMv8, thus will be announced at CES2015.
In 2014, 28nm will still be main process, TSMC will not be ready to ship any 20nm relevant volume before 2014 Q4 Reply
Krysto - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkThey have to be ready this year, otherwise they might as well skip the 20nm process. Tegra 6 is coming out at 16nm FinFET in 2015, which will probably give Nvidia a process advantage for the first time ever against other ARM SoCs (and my guess is even against Intel's Atom, too, which always lags ~a year behind the Core adoption of a new process node). Reply
blanarahul - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkwww.anandtech.com/show/7309/intel-14nm-progress-update-broadwell-airmont-on-schedule
Tegra 6 with 16 nm comes 2015. Intel 14 nm Atom comes in 2014.
It's impossible to beat Intel in terms of process node. Reply
fteoath64 - Friday, November 29, 2013 - linkWhen ARM chips get to 14/16nm, the Atom chips will be trash .... ie out gunned and out priced such that no body wants it even if given free!. Intel race to the "bottom" is going to hit them hard in the face on that race, unless they wake up and do ARM!!!. x86 is already dead, they just do not know it yet... Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkhopefully we will see them. we still havent got a good sucessor to the asus transformer tf300t... Reply
fteoath64 - Friday, November 29, 2013 - linkQualcomm is in no rush to get to ARMv8 64-bit. Apple just did their launch of A7 and that actually buys at least 12 months before Apple does any refresh and they might just raise the clock speed to 1.5Ghz modestly, so the rest of ARM can chase performance with good power consumption on A15 variants and A12, A7 etc to optimize for their existing 28nm and upcoming 20nm process. At least it saves cost going to 20nm in wafers. Only Samsung is in a hurry to go 64-bit since they announced that already and actively seeking that path. Samsung has fab capacity and process node to handle their chip but volumes might be questionable (ie for Exynos 6). They have huge R&D in fab but less so in processor design as seen on their Octa8 chip. It might take them a couple of iterations but they will get there maybe first or second (ie a surprise ARM licensee). Reply
vcarvega - Saturday, November 23, 2013 - linkI think I'm going to pass on this years Nexus 10 and upgrade next year, in hopes that it has a chip like this, or its successor. Reply
pbesk18 - Saturday, November 23, 2013 - linkVcarvega, you will most likely have to wait 2 more years if your skip the upcoming Nexus 10, I hardly doubt they will release another Nexus 10 next year. Reply
Krysto - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkSnapdragon 805 is not a late 2014 chip, unless you mean they will move it to mid-range. They must have an ARMv8 core coming out late 2014, because it would be pretty stupid of them not to have one.
Overall, I'd say Snapdragon 805 is even less impressive than Tegra 5. Adreno 420 will have ~150 Gflops, while Tegra 5 should arrive ~3 months later with ~300 Gflops, probably similar CPU performance, and much better computational photography features.
Also, no VP9 support?! Reply
tuxRoller - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkIm not saying you're wrong but where are you getting those gflop estimates for adreno 420?
Also, regardless of theoretical values adreno tends to do well in actual game benchmarks whereas mali and pvr tend to do extremely well in the 3dmark-type tests. Reply
Suneater - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkActually by Anand's estimation Tegra 5 will be ~400 GFLOPS. 805 will be crap compared to tegra. Reply
blanarahul - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkwww.anandtech.com/show/7309/intel-14nm-progress-update-broadwell-airmont-on-schedule
Tegra 6 with 16 nm comes 2015. Intel 14 nm Atom comes in 2014.
It's impossible to beat Intel in terms of process node. Reply
Krysto - Sunday, November 24, 2013 - linkEither way, the point is the full generation advantage Intel once had, has now been reduced to mere months with the adoption of FinFET by other foundries.
Even at 22nm, Bay Trail can barely match last year's Exynos 5250 in CPU and GPU performance, while at 28nm. Intel will also not support more than OpenGL ES 3.0 anytime soon, either. So I can't wait to see how far behind Intel will be in mobile technology once ARM chip makers move to 16nm FinFET. Reply
melgross - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkAnd, according to teats performed here, the A7 is faster than the middle line Bay Trail, and close to the fastest version.
Intel is pledging big improvements for next year. We'll see if they can make it, and barely keep ahead of the rapidly improving Apple and Qualcomm leading edge designs.
It will be a good race. Reply
Kidster3001 - Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - linkmeanwhile, Baytrail uses 1/2 the power as the 5250. Reply
melgross - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkI like this "on time" description. Intel has now pushed 14nm back two times. I suppose if you take the latest timing by Intel, and it comes out then, it could be said to be on time. But, not really.
I'm also not hopeful that any other bleeding edge node tech will ever be on time again. Remember that Intel's 22nm was also late. Reply
blacksheep242 - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkHopefully now Snapdragon can compete with the PowerVR solution that Apple uses. Reply
LemmingOverlord - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linkhi guys,
How many of the in-house team doing Adreno graphics at Qualcomm came originally from the Imageon team? Does it still have a lot of "ATI DNA"?
Cheers Reply
oranos - Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - linkThis is the exact problem with chipset manufacturers announcing new technology ahead of time. It's a complete conflict of interest for people in the market for new flagship phones. Reply
mjh483 - Sunday, December 01, 2013 - linkEvery time they release a new chip I wonder who will actually take full advantage of the horsepower. Reply
Wolfpup - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - linkIs Qualcom actually *leading* anything? Maybe it's because they really give us no information on anything, but my impression is that their best CPUs are still A9+, while competitors are shipping A15 (Nvidia) or even better than that (Apple).
And same issue with their graphics-they give us no information, so I have to assume they're not very good. Reply


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A FORMER Accrington market stall holder used his inside knowledge to get into the basement storage area to steal computer equipment.
Blackburn magistrates heard William John McCann broke into a secure compound and store and stole computer equipment.
And on another occasion, he carried out a sneak theft from a medical centre, stealing a rucksack. McCann, 42, of Wellington Street, Accrington, pleaded guilty to two charges of burglary.
He was sentenced to 24 weeks in prison, suspended for 12 months, made subject to community supervision for 12 months with a six-month drug rehabilitation requirement and ordered to pay £558 compensation.
Catherine Allan, prosecuting, said McCann was familiar with the layout of the market lock-ups because he was a former stall holder.
The owner of the computer equipment was on his way to his storage area when he saw McCann and recognised him as a former market trader.
Miss Allan: "He said hello to him but when he got to his lock-up he saw the door had been forced and stock taken."


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This article was published 9/2/2013 (1655 days ago), so information in it may no longer be current.
NEEPAWA — Right from the start, most observers were expecting Jeff Stoughton would be playing Mike McEwen at the Manitoba men's curling championship Sunday.
But few were expecting the two top seeds would be meeting in Sunday's Page playoff semifinal (9 a.m., Sportsnet), rather than the final.
And no one was expecting it would be for the right to play Sean Grassie — a man much better known as an author than a curler — for the Manitoba men's title.
A wild 1 vs. 1 playoff Saturday came to a wild conclusion as Grassie — author of a new book on the MCA Bonspiel — also authored a quirky game-winning deuce with the final rock of the final end to defeat Stoughton and propel Grassie's young team — third Corey Chambers, second Kody Janzen and lead Stu Shiells — to Sunday's provincial final (1:30 p.m., Sportsnet).
The victory means Grassie, who came into this event as the sixth seed and with few expecting him to still be playing on Sunday, heads into Sunday as the last remaining undefeated team in this field.
A berth in the Brier and the national spotlight are one win away for a man who, until Saturday night, had never before curled on anything more glamorous than public-access TV.
"I thought the guys handled the nerves great today. Playing a big game, on national TV, they hung in there really well," said Grassie, who also beat defending champion Rob Fowler Saturday morning to advance to Saturday night's 1 vs. 1 game.
Grassie — the 2008 Canadian Mixed champion — was asked if it had yet sunk in just how close he was to competing in a much bigger national curling event. "It probably hasn't sunk in quite yet — either later tonight or tomorrow, I'm guessing."
With Stoughton leading 5-4 and Grassie holding the hammer in the 10th end, Stoughton was lying shot and welded amid a cluster of rocks on the back 12-foot as Grassie went to throw his last.
At Chambers' urging, Grassie played the most delicate of hit-and-rolls, rolling his shooter into the 8-foot for shot and then jiggling the pile in just such a way that a second Grassie stone squirted in as well for the game-winner.
Hats off, said Stoughton, who is usually the author rather than the victim of such last-shot heroics at this event.
"He made two great shots," said Stoughton. "He made a great corner freeze and then makes just a great hit and roll with his last one. Not much you can do — he played really well."
Stoughton advanced to Saturday night's 1 vs. 1 game with a win over Terry McNamee earlier Saturday, but was facing adversity all day long as a flu bug that has decimated this event — including Grassie's team on Friday — finally got hold of his squad.
Stoughton lead Mark Nichols did not finish the game against McNamee and was replaced by fifth Garth Smith. But then Smith got sick too and was unable to play Saturday night, leaving Stoughton playing with an ailing Nichols — and also a sick third Jon Mead — against Grassie.
Stoughton said only he and second Reid Carruthers were still healthy last night.
Meanwhile, McEwen — who with his back to the wall rattled off three must-wins Saturday, including eliminating defending champion Rob Fowler in Saturday night's 2 vs. 2 game — was counting himself lucky, and not just because his team had survived a gruelling day to play in Sunday morning's semifinal against his old nemesis Stoughton.
"Players are dropping like flies out there, so we feel fortunate to not have that affect us," said McEwen, who also eliminated Dennis Bohn and McNamee earlier Saturday.
"It feels like we're playing pretty well, so hopefully we're healthy for one more day... I guess we're a team that plays better with our backs to the wall. I guess we needed that sense of urgency."
McEwen lost the 2010 and 2011 provincial finals to Stoughton and the 2012 final to Fowler.


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WINGSPAN, Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport's terminal improvement program, is projected to exceed the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise (DBE) and local vendor participation goals for the Rental Car Customer Center renovation.
As it nears completion, the Rental Car Customer Center project is on target to meet or exceed the 11 percent DBE participation goal. Additionally, the project is predicted to surpass the program's commitment to utilize at least 70 percent of subcontractors and materials from the Upstate; the current percentage of local participation is 80 percent.
"We are pleased to continue our commitment to Upstate vendors," said GSP President and CEO Dave Edwards. "The initiatives we have successfully executed during the Rental Car Customer Center project will set the bar for the WINGSPAN program and the renovations still to come."
Led by Skanska Moss, a joint venture between Skanska USA Building and local contractor Moss & Associates, the Rental Car Customer Center project is the first of several renovations that will be completed during Phase 1 of WINGSPAN. The Rental Car Customer Center, located in Garage A, will provide travelers with a one-stop center for car rental needs. Other projects in Phase 1 include the expansion of Concourses A and B, construction of the North Wing for temporary airline facilities and utility/infrastructure renovations. In addition to eventually housing the airport's administration offices, the North Wing will also serve as the first phase build-out of the future second baggage claim area.
The Rental Car Customer Center project utilizes several local subcontractors during renovations. The full list includes the following:
· Advanced Fire Protection | Travelers Rest, S.C.
· ARC | Greenville, SC
· BC Cannon | Greenville, S.C.
· Cannon Roofing | Spartanburg, S.C.
· Cook & Boardman | Simpsonville, S.C.
· Diversified Electronics | Greenville, S.C.
· E. Luke Greene Company, Inc. | Spartanburg, S.C.
· Freeland & Associates | Greenville, SC
· Froehling & Robertson, Inc. | Greenville, S.C.
· Gaylor Inc. of NC | Gray Court, S.C.
· Graham Hodge | Greenville, S.C.
· Harold Hendricks Cleaning | Piedmont, SC
· Heritage Tile, Inc. | Greenville, S.C.
· Hodge Carpets | Spartanburg, S.C.
· Minton Sign Shop | Greer, SC
· ML Builders LLC | Mauldin, S.C.
· SMI-Owen Steel Company/CMC SC Steel | Taylors, S.C.
· Utility Specialists | Pelzer, SC
· W.N. Kirkland, Inc. | Spartanburg, S.C.
· Waldrop, Inc. | Spartanburg, S.C.
· Walker-Whitesides, Inc. | Greenville, S.C.
· Wurster Engineering | Greenville, S.C.
About WINGSPAN
Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport (GSP) launched WINGSPAN, a four-year terminal improvement program in May that will modernize the main terminal building, improve passenger flow and upgrade the facility. Skanska Moss, a joint venture between Skanska USA Building and local contractor Moss & Associates, is serving as construction manager at-risk, Jacobs Engineering is serving as program manager and RS&H is serving as lead architect and engineer. GSP will seek as many local subcontractors as possible to participate, continuing its commitment to economic development throughout the Upstate. The terminal will remain operational throughout the entire process.


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Gov. Andrew Cuomo proposed a $136 billion budget that closes a $1.3 billion budget gap without raising taxes.
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