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Maxtor's MaXLine III 250GB: Bringing 16MB Buffers and NCQ to Hard Drivesby Anand Lal Shimpi on 6/25/2004 12:03 AM EST
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titte - Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - linkI would strongly discourage from buing a disk from Maxtor. I recently bought a 250gig Maxline III but the disk fails to work with my nForce-chipset. The disk works ok on other machine and it's not a driver issue since Maxtors boot ISO fails to read/write to the disk. There is an article about the issue here http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29570">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29570 and i also found an issue in the maxtor knowledgebase (can't seem to find it anymore though). This would be ok if maxtor support was up to the task but their resonses are almost autogenerated answers like "reinstall drivers". My problem description clearly states that drivers has been reinstalled and drive fails even when started from their diagnostics boot CD.... Reply
darksage429 - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - linkTwo questions:
If you were to run them in RAID-0, would it beat Raptor's RAID-0 performance?
Would NCQ benefit those running Bittorrent? Reply
Kaido - Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - linkRaptor + NCQ + 16mb cache = $250 *I'm* willing to pay :D
So is this going to be an Intel-only thing like Hyperthreading, or will it be available on AMD motherboards too...an a64 with this Maxtor hard drive would be sick! :) Reply
Kaido - Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - linkReply
TrogdorJW - Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - link33 - I believe the article on Storage Review specifically stated that they will be doing an NCQ article in the near future, once they get all the necessary hardware in. Reply
quanta - Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - linkI read the storagereview's article, but it did not test drive's NCQ capability. Rather, it only tested 'non-native' TCQ. Reply
DerekWilson - Sunday, June 27, 2004 - linkThe arguement is still that NCQ will be more helpful the more multi-tasking oriented our systems become.
As for me, I sure could use it right now. I'm always playing MP3s, editing large sound and image files (photoshop is an insane resource hog), copying files between drives, and opening huge PDF, PPT and Word documents (I really wish marketing people would realize that we don't need print quality images in our online presentations). Most of the CDs I use everyday are actually images on my drive that I mount using Daemon Tools.
I would also argue that everything is HD limited. Whenever you power up, open a program, or open a large file that little hourglass alwasy rears its ugly head. Sure, once everything gets shuffled off into RAM things are fine, but that wait time is still the most annoying bottleneck in my system. And if you've ever wanted to open or copy more than one file or program at a time, then there's an argument for NCQ. Reply
Pariah - Saturday, June 26, 2004 - link"The raptor has TCQ, which is basically the same, but in the raptor's case, it is actually an ATA implementation. TCQ has been around for awhile, originally from SCSI."
Without going into the technical differences, which nobody probably cares about, the Raptor TCQ is quite different from SATA II NCQ. While SATA II NCQ is actually closer to current SCSI TCQ than the Raptor legacy ATA TCQ is. TCQ is a rather generic term used to describe a whole bunch of different schemes. NCQ is just a name used to describe the new form of TCQ used in SATA.
"Both Intel and AMD are banking the future of their microprocessor designs heavily on a shift towards more multithreaded/multitasking usage patterns."
It would appear to be more the other way around. Intel and AMD aren't betting on that, they really don't have a choice, and everyone else will have to adapt to that whether they like it or not. Intel has seen there is a limit to how fast you can push the clockrates of current CPU tech before the heat and power requirements exceed what is practical for users. In comes Pentium M, out goes Tejas. You can't compare CPU development to hard drive development because they don't run in parallel (no pun intended). There are quite a few CPU limited applications for home users even today, while there are very few HD limited applications, and even fewer scenarios where any of us would be running multiple such applications. For TCQ/NCQ to be effective, a user truly has to be hammering their drives and that is a rare occurence and unlikely to be for any length of time.
There's a reason it has taken so long for the technology to reach ATA, and it has nothing to do with the evolution of the home user. One form of TCQ has been in PATA for years, but no one every used it because there was no use for it in the home. There still isn't, the difference now is that ATA, and more specifically SATA, is moving into the lowend enterprise and server markets which DO benefit from such technologies. The ability to use SATA drives on upcoming SAS controllers is further evidence that the markets are blurring a bit in the middle between ATA and SCSI. The needs of users haven't changed, nor are they, the target markets for the technologies have changed.
"Right now I've got an IM client, an email client, a handful of browsers, Excel, Word, a calendar app, Photoshop and iTunes running. Of those, I'm concurrently managing tasks in the browser, MP3 player and Mail applications."
Yup, those are some pretty hardcore HD usage applications. I bet you can just hear your drive grinding away under that workload. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Saturday, June 26, 2004 - linkbrentpresley
TCQ won't be nearly as widely used as NCQ on the desktop, I expect the Raptor to be the only desktop SATA drive to support it; as far as I know, no chipset manufacturer is planning on including TCQ support in their south bridges.
NCQ, like Hyper Threading, improves performance in multitasking situations and not in single thread, single application scenarios. Both Intel and AMD are banking the future of their microprocessor designs heavily on a shift towards more multithreaded/multitasking usage patterns. I would tend to agree that this is a fairly logical progression for PCs to take. Already today we do some fairly heavy multitasking on PCs. Right now I've got an IM client, an email client, a handful of browsers, Excel, Word, a calendar app, Photoshop and iTunes running. Of those, I'm concurrently managing tasks in the browser, MP3 player and Mail applications. Start adding media encoding (which will happen once more people start using their PCs as media servers as well as work/play machines), multiuser environments (e.g. someone using the computer to play a game while someone else uses the same system to work in Word) through technologies like Vanderpool and then you have a clear benefit to technologies like NCQ and Hyper Threading. I'd honestly be curious to see the impact of NCQ on Media Center systems, I'd expect there to be a sizable performance boost - the only difficult part is measuring performance to be able to put into a graph.
Take care,
Anand Reply
brentpresley - Saturday, June 26, 2004 - link74GB raptor is TCQ, as this document shows:
Still, it would have been nice to compare the raptor running tcq w/ the maxtor ncq. Both are next-gen desktop technologies. Reply
dmxlite - Saturday, June 26, 2004 - linkThe raptor has TCQ, which is basically the same, but in the raptor's case, it is actually an ATA implementation. TCQ has been around for awhile, originally from SCSI. The problem with the Raptor is it is not a 'real' SATA drive. It is a ATA drive with a SATA bridge, which at the time only offers the benefits of the smaller SATA cabling and such.
To get a better impression of Raptor vs. MaXLine III, you'll have to use a controller that supports both, like the Promise FastTrak TX4200. Here is a good article on TCQ and it advantages (using the Raptor):
http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200406/20040... Reply
skiboysteve - Saturday, June 26, 2004 - linkanand, the raptor has NCQ.... Reply
PrinceGaz - Saturday, June 26, 2004 - linkDoes using NCQ increase disk-related CPU load? Reply
TrogdorJW - Saturday, June 26, 2004 - linkI'm more in agreement with Operandi on this review: Sure, there are instances where NCQ hurts performance (although we need to remember that this is just one implementaion of NCQ on the SATA chips: Intel's), but overall, I would easily take one of these drives over a Raptor. Performance is pretty close, but three or four times the capacity for most likely the same price? Come on, who wouldn't take the increased storage?
I'm just a little more than surprised that the largest 10000+ RPC drives are still stuck at such low densities. You can only find a couple 147 GB 10000 RPM SCSI drives, and no 15000 RPM drives that I'm aware of hold more than 74 GB. Give me a 10000 RPM drive with 100 GB platters, and then we're talking! (Wishful thinking for a few more years, I'd imagine.)
Anyway, the benefit of NCQ is going to depend largely on the bottleneck. Some things are CPU limited, in which case it won't help, at least not yet. Compression is a great example of this. If you had a multi-core or SMP setup and the compression was single-threaded, then NCQ could help out more. Other tasks are going to be limited by the sustained transfer, i.e. file copying. However, if you multitask file copying by, for example, copying two large files between drives at the same time, then sustained transfer rate is only part of the bottleneck, with access time being the other part. NCQ is designed to help improve access times, but even in the best case scenarios, it's not going to be tons faster.
IIRC, technologies like NCQ (which have been in SCSI for ages, via the split-transaction bus) usually don't hurt performance much and can periodically improve performance a lot. I don't know if this has changed much, but I remember seeing my boss start four or five applications at the same time on a SCSI workstation, and they loaded TONS faster than those same applications loaded on my non-SCSI system.
I've become so used to the bottlenecks in IDE systems that I usually avoid trying to launch multiple applications at the same time. I'd be interested to see some benchmarks in that area, i.e. launching Photoshop, Word, Excel, and Internet Explorer at the same time with and without NCQ. Yeah, it's a short-term bottleneck, but at times such delays are irritating. Reply
pxc - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkReply
FacelessNobody - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkSo based on what I've read, NCQ (and HyperThreading, for that matter) are techologies aimed at improving computer performance in specific situations. I suppose in discussion they sound short-sighted--helping only a few people some of the time. However, it wasn't long ago that 3D accelerators were the same way. The idea could still tank, computers may not go the way forseen in Intel's crystal ball, so it's a leap of faith developing techology like this, and that's why Intel tries so hard to push things like PCI Express and BTX.
I'm a bottom line person. Like Pariah (whose criticism has been excellent), I'd like a definitive statement telling me what improves by how much and how it affects me. The more I look into it though, it doesn't seem a thing like NCQ can give me that. My computer use (gaming, word processing, music) is affected more by raw power than anything else. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkPariah
Throughout the article we stated whenever the performance impact due to NCQ was positive, negative as well as whether or not it was negligible.
A 10% performance improvement is often our rule of thumb for perceivable performance impact. A number of companies have done studies that basically state a 10% impact is noticeable to the end user and we tend to agree.
Your example of a 30 -> 33 fps performance increase is a valid one, but if we're talking about measuring average frame rates I'd argue that a 10% increase in average frame rate could be very noticeable depending on the rest of the frame rates over the test period. Remember that with our Winstone tests we are measuring the time it takes to complete a task, and a 10% improvement in time savings is nothing to cast aside.
Performance improvement down the road due to NCQ is far from a guess in my opinion. The fact that Intel has integrated support for it into their new ICH6 and given how hard they have been pushing for the type of multithreaded/multitasking usage environments for the future should lend decent credibility to Intel seeing NCQ as a worthwhile feature. Again, look at the direction that even AMD is going when it comes to CPU design - the focus continues to be on multithreading/multitasking usage environments which, as long as you are doing so across more than one application, result in much more "server-like" disk access patterns than what we have currently.
As the PC architecture moves into the next phase of parallelism (moving beyond instruction level parallelism to thread/application level parallelism) it's inevitable that hard drive usage patterns do get a bit more random. Definitely not as much as servers, but definitely more than they are now.
Again I'll state that an improvement of 10% in a very realistic test is something that I'm sure any user would gladly have for free with their hard drive. It's very much like Hyper Threading; the performance differences are sometimes slightly negative or nothing at all, but in some very real world (albeit hard to benchmark) scenarios the performance improvement is undeniably evident.
Take care,
Anand Reply
nourdmrolNMT1 - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkPariah-
there is a key word in the conclusion, it is called, potential, read it, the 6 line, 8th word. A lot of the conclusion is based around the future, and what NCQ can do in the future, it says that in todays world you get slight increase, but as computers become more multithreaded NCQ will increase performance.
p.s. dont go getting you panties in a wad over an article on an HD.
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Pariah - Friday, June 25, 2004 - link"In terms of our excitement about NCQ, the conclusion never stated that NCQ increased performance tremendously across the board."
It also never stated that in 15 out of the 16 real world tests you ran, the improvement was anywhere from a 1% improvement to 4.9% reduction in performance, with the majority of tests showing a decrease in performance. That wouldn't seem to be a minor point to just gloss over and ignore in the conclusion, don't you think?
"But also remember that we only had three heavy-multitasking benchmarks, and the performance boost we saw in one of them (a very common scenario, who doesn't copy a file and browse the net or check email?) was nothing short of outstanding."
10.2% is considered outstanding? Most people would consider a 10% improvement to be about the bare minimum necessary to invoke a perceptible difference in speed for hard drives. I wouldn't call the performance of a card getting 33fps in Far Cry vs a card getting 30fps (the same 10% difference) to be "outstanding."
That's not to say that NCQ cannot actually provide outstanding performance. It most certainly can. Storage Review's server benchmarks show comparable 10k SCSI drives beating the Raptor by 30%+ and 15k drives just crushing it while only running neck and neck in workstation marks. But the fact remains, that those server benchmarks in no way mirror what us "ordinary folk" can duplicate on our home systems.
So, again, while we may be able to develop scenarios where NCQ will make a big difference, none of the tests run in this review came anywhere close to displaying those capabilities unless you consider a minimal perceptible difference in one test to be "outstanding." I would take a slightly more subdued approach in the conclusion that tells what the tests actually show and how they would benefit people today, rather than hyping something you weren't able to show and are only guessing might improve in the future. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkbroberts
Only the game tests used two drives, all of the other tests had the OS and the applications on the same drive.
I don't believe that a large buffer negates the advantages of NCQ, as they largely address two different problems. Large buffers help mostly with sequential transfers while NCQ is geared towards improving random access performance; if anything they are complementary.
You bring up a very good point, the benefit of NCQ could (in theory) be better seen with more fragmentation on a drive. Unfortunately it is difficult to construct a repeatable test involving fragmentation that's real world, I can easily do it in synthetic benchmarks though. That being said, we shouldn't need NCQ to improve fragmented performance - that's what defrag programs are for :)
Take care,
Anand Reply
broberts - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkWhile the the article stresses that the tests attempt to duplicate real world conditions I noticed that, at least for the one benchmark, the o/s is on a separate drive. IMO most "real world" systems contain one drive, or at least one logical drive (RAID). Having the o/s and swap file on the same drive would, I suspect (and even with 1GB of RAM which is a little over the top), tend to highlight the difference between NCQ and TCQ performance.
NCQ should only make a real difference when disk head movement is the bottleneck. A test such as loading a big program isn't going to really test anything unless the program is fragmented or some o/s activity (like swapping) concurrently takes place on the drive.
I also wonder how much of the advantages of NCQ are negated by the bigger cache? 16MB in a desktop environment is significant. It may well account for the closeness of the numbers reported.
Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkThanks for the responses guys, we're committed to making our storage coverage top notch on par with the articles in our other sections so it's going to take lots of constructive criticism to make sure we're providing that; keep it coming.
You've already noticed that there were no sound/heat tests in the article. We got great response from the MP3s I posted of the drives in our first HDD roundup under the new suite, but we're still lacking a good quantitative way of comparing the sound levels of these hard drives. In the worst case scenario I could always just use a trusty SPL meter, but I want to do something a little more useful. Give me another week or so and I'll see if I can't at least have a prototype of what I'm trying to do.
In terms of our excitement about NCQ, the conclusion never stated that NCQ increased performance tremendously across the board. But also remember that we only had three heavy-multitasking benchmarks, and the performance boost we saw in one of them (a very common scenario, who doesn't copy a file and browse the net or check email?) was nothing short of outstanding. NCQ is sort of like Hyper Threading in the sense that it doesn't improve performance by 20% across the board, but in a few very real world scenarios, the performance boost is nothing short of impressive. And as workloads become more parallelized in nature, we'll continue to see bigger benefits from NCQ. For current sequential desktop applications, NCQ doesn't do anything at all; but remember that AMD and Intel are both going down the multicore CPU route for a reason - desktop usage patterns are changing. We're very excited about NCQ as a technology because it anticipates that changing environment and definitely improves performance in it.
Will you see a performance boost from NCQ today? If you're a heavy multitasker at all, then yes. Otherwise, no. Just ask yourself, how many times have you copied a file while doing other things in the background. A 10% performance gain in that one test is much more than any other real world hard drive performance improvement we've seen in recent history.
Take care,
Anand Reply
Operandi - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkI thought it was a pretty good article. I don't know where your people are coming from saying sounds like Maxtor PR paper. It may not be as fast as the raptor but then again it's a 250-300 gig drive not 74, fair trade if you ask me.
As far as noise goes it should be identical to Diamond Max series. There is no reason for it to be any louder, aside from the 16 meg buffer and NCQ the drive is most likely identical mechanically. Reply
GhandiInstinct - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkSo, I am also curious, how loud is it? How much will it cost?
MaxLine or Raptor?
Seems to me, as a gamer, Raptor won in all the gaming related benchmarks. Reply
Pariah - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkI agree with #11. I got the same impression aftering reading the conclusion which didn't seem to take any of the rest of the article into account. The conclusion seemed to be based in wishful thinking of what he had wanted to see, rather than being based on the numbers his article actually produced, which were not nearly as positive.
The Raptor does not support NCQ. It supports the old ATA TCQ which is inferior in its implementation. However, looking at the lackluster performance of NCQ, it's not hard to believe the even worse #'s that StorageReview just posted on the Raptor's TCQ performance in workstation benchmarks.
Also, the 7200.7's do not support NCQ either. Seagate announced a new version of the 7200.7 that will, but has not reached the market yet. Reply
Jeff7181 - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkWhat would make it any louder than Maxtor's other 7200 RPM drives? I doubt they'd go back to using ball bearings and noisy servo's just to give us NCQ. Reply
T8000 - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkIt would indeed be interesting to see how other drives that support NCQ, like the Seagate and the Raptor 74 GB would benefit from it.
Altough, I am not sure if the Raptor has NCQ or TCQ, but that could make it even more interesting, as NCQ and TCQ could be compared. Reply
QuaiBoy - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkThis article reads like Maxtor promotional copy, giving the Maxtor high praise in tests where it fails to even outpace it's 7200RPM competition. Also, like #9 said, how loud is it? Vibration? Heat? Interesting omissions to the article... bet it sounds like a jet turbine given my past experiences with Maxtor. Reply
bwall04 - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkI'm not sure why this was overlooked but the 74GB Raptor supports NCQ. I think it would paint a clearer picture of the performance of NCQ and situations where it is beneficial if the review could be edited to add in these results.
Kudos to Maxtor for stepping up with something to compete with my Raptors, and with 3x the storage!! Reply
jcromano - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkHow loud is it? Reply
araczynski - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkyawn,
if ncqprice <= raptorprice then
ncqproduct = possiblesuccess
whocares = 1
I would say forget the spinning crap alltogether, why aren't we advnacing the solid state field storage? like that HyperDrive3 thing mentioned on the forums, THAT'S something to drool about. Reply
Da3dalus - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkI wanna see a Raptor with that 16MB buffer ;)
I'm not gonna put a Maxtor drive in my comp again no matter what they come up with, bad previous experiences... Reply
Demon - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkThe Seagate 7200.7 does support NCQ.
"The Barracuda 7200.7 is the industry's first hard drive family capable of supporting SATA Native Command Queuing (NCQ)"
http://www.seagate.com/cda/newsinfo/newsroom/relea... Reply
apriest - Friday, June 25, 2004 - link#4, I believe the drive has to support NCQ as well. Doesn't the Raptor support NCQ though? Reply
Zar0n - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkWhy did u not benchmark Seagate 7200.7 with NCQ enabled?
1GB of ram? Most users have 256mb or 512mb.
What is the technical explanation for some many tests being slower with NCQ?
AnnoyedGrunt - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkHmmm, I thought the conclusion in this article gave too much credit to NCQ as far as boosting performance. It helped in one test which has significant multi-tasking, and that is by no means a bad thing, but I do wonder how often that scenario would arise. It seems to me that the human operating the computer would have a hard time keeping that many activities occuring @ the same time. Also, the Hitachi drive (as well as the other 7200 RPM drives) were all usually quite close in performance to the new Maxtor. Finally, in the game loading tests, the Raptor still had a significant lead, which is somewhat dissapointing for me since that is my main concern and I was hoping the Maxtor would do better in that arena.
Well, I'll check out the storagereview article to see how that turned out.
-D'oh! Reply
Sivar - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkHmm. The results using a Promise TCQ controller were quite different (See StorageReview.com's latest review). Reply
Jeff7181 - Friday, June 25, 2004 - linkWell it had to happen sometime... competition for the Raptor. Reply


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Thanks to all who came out to support MOPA's Photo Auction 2011 earlier this month. The event was a huge success for the Museum and almost all of the gorgeous art (generously donated by galleries, artists and collectors) found a new home. I would like to offer a special thanks to Andrea Fiucyznski, president of Christie's Los Angeles, who presided over our auction, as well as our brilliant designer, Terri Mitchell, of PR1ZE.
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Clayton's Biography
Clayton William BATCHELOR was born on 4 Mar 1898 on Miller Brick Hill outside of Rising Sun, Ohio County, Indiana1, the fifth of seven children born to George and Mary Elizabeth (Lizzie) Knipfer Batchelor.
He appeared in the census on 19 Jun 1900 in Randolph Township, Ohio County, Indiana.2 Later that year, the family moved to Petersburg, Boone County, Kentucky, where the Batchelor family had been living for several decades. In 1903, the family moved to a farm called "Split Rock" at the mouth of Woolper Creek and the Ohio River.3 Clayton's father, George, was sharecropping the farm. It was called Split Rock because of a huge rock split by nature which became a tourist attraction. The rock is a couple of miles east of Petersburg, just off shore in the Ohio River, but it has been under water since the river was dammed. Today (1999), it is part of a private property and cannot be accessed by the public. It is apparently no longer of any interest - the younger folks in Petersburg have never heard of it. (2006 Update: Apparently the guy who owned the property has sold it to Wildlife Conservation Kentucky, Inc., which has created the Split Rock Conservation Park. See source text below for more info.)
Clayton appeared in the census on 27 Apr 1910 in Petersburg, Boone County, Kentucky.4 He was 12 years old and his mother, Lizzie, had recently died. Grandpa and his sister, Addie, always said that she died in childbirth, but in 2003 the last living spouse of one of the Batchelor kids told her great granddaughter that Lizzie had actually died of a self-inflicted abortion. Lizzie's mother, Catherine Barbara Disque Bauer Bender, moved in with the family to help Clayton's father, George, raise all the kids. They called her "Grandma Bender."
Clayton was baptized on Easter Sunday, 23 Mar 1913, in the Ohio River by Rev. Fisher, pastor of the Christian Church of Petersburg.
He dropped out of school after 8th grade in order to help his father on the farm.
Clayton and a friend worked on a big river freighter on the Ohio River for two weeks in 1915. They spent one night in Cincinnati to see a show and had their picture taken. See photo above.
On 23 Jun 1916, Clayton enlisted in the U.S. Army atiCincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio. (Granpa said he enlisted at Cincy, but the Enlustment Record letter from the Adjutant General's Office says he enlisted at the Columbus Barracks in Columbus, Ohio.) He lied about his age - said he was 22. Apparently, 21 or 22 was the youngest they would accept people into the Army back then without his father's signature. He wanted to serve in Mexico but, instead, was sent to Columbus, Ohio and then to Savannah, Georgia.
On 14 July 1918, he and his fellow soldiers shipped out from Hoboken, New Jersey. arriving at Liverpool, England on 26 July 1918. Clayton said that he threw up one meal during the trip. From Liverpool, they went to Southampton from where, on the evening of July 30th, they travelled across the English Channel to Le Havre. and on to St. Nazaire and Angiers. When crossing the English Channel, the third ship in his group was bombed and, that night, LeHavre was attacked.
His outfit was the 34th Artillery Brigade, 64th Regiment CAC (Coast Artillery Corps). They used British 8-inch Howitzers and French 75's. Grandpa was an instructor on the French 75's. They mostly had cooks who made regular meals for them, but for emergency rations, they ate hard tack: crackers and canned beef. On Thanksgiving Day in 1918, he broke ice on the Loire River to take a bath. He was at Metz, at the front, when the armistice was signed. He got drunk the night after the armistice was signed - bought champagne for $2.50 a quart. He said it wasn't too cold in France, that he'd been billeted for a couple of months with a French family, and that he liked the French better than the English!
On 11 Feb 1919, Clayton left France from St. Nazaire on the USS Huron. The ship travelled through the Azores on the way back to the United States. Grandpa said he got seasick and threw up most of his meals. He also ran into an old friend from Petersburg on board -- a Navy mess chef named Frank. He ate all the rest of his meals with the Navy guys. They hit a huge storm and lost four men overboard before they managed to get all the hatches closed. The trip home only took about a week. They landed at Newport News, Virginia on 24 Feb 1919.
He was discharged from the Army on 1 Jul 1919, after his father wrote a letter saying he was needed on the family farm. He arrived home at the Split Rock farm on 4 July 1919.
In 1988, Grandpa received a certificate from the government of France for helping to defend that country against Germany during the 1st world war. He was a member of the Aurora Keith Ross American Legion Post # 231. He was the last surviving World War I veteran of Dearborn County, Indiana when he died in 1999.
So, he was discharged because his Dad needed him on the farm. Clayton had other ideas. He got home on July 4th and on July 15th, he went to work for the Royer Wheel Company across the Ohio River from Petersburg in Aurora, Dearborn County, Indiana. Obviously, one week back on the farm was enough! During the war, Royer made wheels for the Army and, after the war, for the Ford Motor Company. Clayton boarded at the Aurora home of Frank Smith's mother. Frank became his best friend and, later, the best man at his wedding.
Clayton appeared in the census on 14 Jan 1920 in Aurora, Dearborn County, Indiana.5 He was 21 years old, living with his sister and brother-in-law, Kate and Fred Gilb, and working with Fred at the wheel works company.
Shortly after that time, Clayton started a career as a baker that lasted from 1920 until sometime in 1936. He served his baker apprenticeship at Huff's Bakery in Aurora. After that, he worked at the riverfront Dearborn Bakery where he had a bread slicer and two big ovens. In 1923, he worked at the Domestic Baking Company in Lawrenceburg, Indiana, just to the east of Aurora.
In 1924, while back working at Huff's, Clayton made the first devil's food cake in Aurora from a mix (the 1st) he bought from a traveling salesman. He got flour poisoning on his hands while working there. He was also the manager there when the Huff's went under, but Clayton said it wasn't his fault; he said the owner was over-extended on his credit.
In 1929-1930, Clayton was working 60 hours a week for $30/week to support his family of four. (More on the family below, after we wrap up his bakery career.) On 7 February 1935, Clayton was made manager of the Dillsboro Bakery. He worked as a baker or bakery manager for 14 years, ending by owning his own bakery in Aurora. He finally gave up the bakery business and sold his bakery to Slick Lambert (who later sold out to Willard Watts) after he got asthma from all the flour.
Clayton married Minnie Belle ("Ted") GOODRICH on 16 Jun 1923 in Aurora, Dearborn County, Indiana.7 They were married by Rev. William E. Fisher at 11 am in the Aurora Methodist Episcopal Church. Witnesses were their best friends, Blanche Rushworth and Frank Smith, who later married each other. Clayton had joined the Methodist Episcopal Church on 26 Mar 1922. Grandmother already belonged to the church. Grandpa was active in the men's fellowship, choir, and all church activities and was a regular financial contributor to the church up until his death.
We asked Grandmother how she and Grandpa met. She told us that the movie theater in Aurora used to be up on the second floor of a building. After seeing a movie one day, Grandmother was standing in line on the stairs to leave the theater. Some young men were standing to the side, trying to get in line. Grandmother turned to one of them and said,"You can get in line behind me." Grandpa's comment: "And I've been one step behind her ever since!"
Grandmother said their dates back then mostly consisted of afternoon outings in the presence of family and friends. Their best friends, as noted above, were Blanche Rushworth and Frank Smith and many of their "dates" were with Blanche and Frank. One strange date was to a Ku Klux Klan meeting back in 1921 or 1922 before they were married, "just to see what it was like," Grandmother told us.
Grandmother's name was Minnie Belle, but Grandpa always called her "Ted." I asked her why once and she just laughed and said that her girlhood nickname was "Teddie." This was the same woman who always insisted upon being called "Grandmother," not "Grandma," at least by her oldest grandchildren. If we slipped up, she was very quick to correct us! Her nieces and nephews on Grandpa's side of the family always called her "Aunt Ted."
When they first got married, Clayton & Minnie lived in a rented house or apartment on Vine Street in Lawrenceburg, Indiana. They bought and moved into their first house at 113 West Conwell Street in Aurora about 1924. Clayton and Minnie began their family in 1924, too, when daughter Martha Jean was born. She was followed in 1928 by another daughter, Phyllis Anne. The Conwell Street house was big enough for this growing family, but it didn't have a bathroom - just an outhouse. Behind the house, Clayton tended to his garden, fox grape arbor and a cherry tree. They had a summer kitchen with a wood-burning cook stove upon which they canned all summer long.
Grandpa began his political career about this same time. His first elected office was as city councilman in 1933 in Aurora. Around 1934, he served as acting mayor of Aurora. He refused to run for mayor, although asked to do so frequently over the years, because he was ashamed of his lack of education. Nonetheless, he held several other elective offices during his lifetime: city councilman (12 years), chair and precinct chair of the Aurora Democratic Party (12 years), county councilman, and chair of the city park board. Clayton was a lifelong, active member of the Democratic Party in Indiana. He was well-known in the party as a good fundraiser and as the person to know in Dearborn County if you were running in any kind of a statewide election.
Clayton was also very active in the business community. He joined the Aurora Chamber of Commerce early in his career, serving as a director for 18 years and as president for five years. In 1987, he was made a lifetime director of the Chamber. He was instumental in numerous developments in and around the City of Aurora, including construction of the first apartment building specially designed for senior citizens.
In May 1936, the Batchelor family moved to a modern and relatively new brown-shingled house at 306 Harrison Street in Aurora. The house was owned by a Mrs. Hinman who didn't like it and wanted a bigger house. She and Grandpa worked out some kind of deal in which they traded houses. The new house had gorgeous hardwood floors, a built-in ironing board in the kitchen, and an alcove in the hall wall for one of those old tall telephones with the speaker at the top. There was a little door under the alcove where the phone book was kept. Their phone number was 243J. They kept that same number until well into the 1960's. All calls were placed through an operator. (I can remember Grandpa kidding with the operator whenever he was making a call.) The house was also their first with an indoor bathroom.
The new house had lots of modern conveniences, but it wasn't big enough for them, so Grandpa added a room built up on concrete block stilts at the back of the house which served as Mom's and Aunt Martha's bedroom. In the 1937 flood, the water came all the way up to the floor of that room. The roof of a house downtown had come off and floated all the way up to their house. Mom said they laid in bed at night hearing that roof banging against the concrete blocks. She said it scared her to death. They tied boats up alongside the house when they came to get them to take them across the athletic fields and then up to Aunt Min's for safety.
The water from the Ohio River rose so high that it was up on the second floor of the Methodist Church. Townspeople went to the gym of the elementary and junior high school to get bread and other emergency supplies. Grandpa was working at Seagram's when the Lawrenceburg levee broke, so he couldn't get home for a couple of days.
Clayton had gone to work for Joseph E. Seagrams & Sons, Inc., in Lawrenceburg, Indiana in 1936. He worked for them first doing construction on a new plant, but then moved to their Police Department and to their Fire Department, before returning to the Police Department to stay. Most of his employment was with their Police Department. During his tenure with Seagrams, he was promoted to sergeant, 1st sergeant and midnight chief. He retired in 1964 after 28 years of service. According to Mom, sometime during these years (when they lived in the brown house), he once worked as a security guard at the Kentucky Derby because Seagram's provided the guards & rotated the assignment among their plants. He brought Mom home a cardboard periscope with mirrors in it that was used to see up and over the crowd. He received his Social Security number and card on 3 Dec 1936 while working at Seagram's.
On 7 June 1944, the Batchelors moved to 405 Harrison Avenue in Aurora. This was a big, two-story white house about a block away and around the corner from the brown house. They rented out a couple of rooms in this big house to boarders, including the high school band director.
Clayton and Minnie moved next door to 403 Harrison Avenue on 18-19 April 1953. This was a more modern home with kitchen, bathroom, large living room, two bedrooms on the first floor, and two bedrooms under the eaves on the second floor. Grandpa built the first carport in Aurora on the side of the house. The house also had a large, concrete basement that contained a workroom for Grandpa (in which he built a shower in the corner), a root cellar in which all of Grandmother's canned goods were stored, and a room in which Grandmother did laundry and ironing. From the basement, you could walk out onto a patio of sorts. It was all across the back of the house, and was surrounded by a low stone wall. At one end, there was a stone fireplace and chimney covered with honeysuckle vines. On the other side of the stone wall was a steep hillside down to Grandpa's garden, about 10-15 feet below the patio. There was a stone staircase that went down to that level. They lived the rest of their lives together in this house.
In 1964 after he retired from Seagram's, Clayton was appointed by Indiana Governor Mathew Welsh to manage the state motor vehicle licensing station in Aurora. He managed the Aurora License Branch for eight years.
On 16 Oct 1988, Clayton lost his beloved wife when they were both 90 years old. In Aug 1989, Clayton sold his home in Aurora and moved tothe Pine Knoll Retirement Home in nearby Lawrenceburg.
In 1991, the Aurora Park Board named the pavilion in the city park the "Clayton Batchelor Pavilion" and held a special naming ceremony and dinner which Clayton and his daughters attended.
In 1992, the 107th Indiana General Assembly honored him via House Concurrent Resolution 45 for his "immeasurable contributions to the people of Dearborn County and the City of Aurora."
Clayton was described as 6' tall, 208 lbs, with blue eyes and gray hair (originally brown), on his last Indiana driver's license in 1993. Actually, he went bald fairly early except for a white fringe around the sides. Even his earliest pictures show him with a very receding hairline.
In 1997, Clayton moved to the Woodland Hills Nursing Home in Lawrenceburg. On 7 Mar 1998, his family gathered in Lawrenceburg for a celebration of his 100th birthday. In addition to many family members and friends, the party was attended by the mayors of Aurora and Lawrenceburg, State Senator Johnny Nugent, State Representative Bob Bischoff, and Indiana Congressman Lee Hamilton. As the last living World War I veteran in Dearborn County, Clayton was honored at his party by a number of veterans' organizations, and his birthday party was covered by a Cincinnati (Ohio) television station.
Clayton died of bilateral pneumonia on 20 Feb 1999 in Lawrenceburg, Dearborn County, Indiana, just a couple of weeks short of his 101st birthday. He was buried with his wife in Aurora's Riverview Cemetery. Rev. Jean Frable officiated at the funeral which was held at Rullman's Funeral Home in Aurora. Her husband, Dr. Frank Frable, gave the eulogy. Pallbearers were five of his grandchildren and a grandson-in-law: Dick Suit, Jr, Kim Watson Roser, Sue Watson Voelkers, Lissa Taylor Holsclaw, and Nancy Watson Mahle & Paul Mahle.
1. Clayton Batchelor, birth certificate no. Vol. I, page 196 (4 Mar 1898), Ohio County (Indiana) Health Department,.
2. George Batchelor, 1900 U.S. Census, Randolph Township, Ohio County, Indiana, Dwelling & Family # 205;. Age 2, born Mar 1898 in Indiana. Paremts born in Missouri (father) & Kentucky (mother).
3. Split Rock Conservation Park Website, owned by Wildlife Conservation Kentucky, Inc.,
http://www.splitrockpark.org/index.html. "Split Rock is named for the unique glacial formations deposited in the area thousands of years ago. This awesome feature and the beauty and diversity of the surrounding area have been a destination for exploration and wonder for generations. The land is a mosaic of woodlands and meadows surrounded by Woolper Creek and the Ohio River (with an abundant wildlife resource). Archaeological evidence of past cultures gives testament to the rich bounty of this area that has supported human communities and endures today."
Directions to the park: From 275 West in Northern Kentucky: take I-275 west to Petersburg (KY 20) exit (exit 11). Bear right from exit onto KY 8 South. Go straight on to KY 20 West. Follow KY 20 west for 5.4 miles into Petersburg. At the stop sign in Petersburg take a left (still KY 20 West). Go 3.2 miles to Split Rock Conservation Park on the Right.
4. George Batchelor, 1910 U.S. Population, Petersburg, Boone County, Kentucky, Dwelling # 197?, Family # 199?;.
5. 1920 U.S. Census, Aurora, Center Township, Dearborn County, Indiana. Dwelling # 209, Family # 222. Age 21, living at 124 East George Street in Aurora, IN with sister, Catherine (Kate) & brother-in-law, Fred Gilb. He and Fred, age 43, both worked as laborers at the wheel works, presumably, Royer Wheel Works. Others in the household included Catherine, age 32 (father b IL, mother b IN - same as for Clayton); George, age 10; Clarence, age 8; William & Lillian, age 5. All the kids were born in IN except George who was born in KY. (Dist. 36, Sheet 9, Center Twp, Aurora).
6. United States Social Security Administration, application for a Social Security Number and Card.
7. Clayton Batchelor & Minnie Goodrich, marriage license no. n/a (1923), Dearborn County Clerk of Courts, Lawrenceburg, Indiana.
8. Clayton Batchelor, 1930 U. S. Population, Aurora, Dearborn County, Indiana, 113 West Conwell Street Dwelling & Family # 18;.


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I got an email from FindMyPast today announcing a new project to digitise WW1 RAF & RFC records that are held at The National Archives under the reference AIR79. The press release states that it is estimated that the collection will, when completed. comprise 360,000 transcripts and 800,000 scanned full-colour images dating back to 1912.
No date for the completion of the scanning of these documents and their release online has been given.
National Archives has a research guide to the records and a link is below. Wikipedia has a good overview of both the RAF & RFC links to these pages are also below.
Image – Wikimedia – out of copyright – Sir Keith McPherson Smith 1890 – 1955, member of RFC.


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A MUM who suffered serious burns in an explosion at a Tenerife hotel is making a gradual recovery after being moved out of intensive care on Tuesday.
Holidaymaker Kirsteen Hughes, aged 37 and of Fernside, Radcliffe, was badly burned when a food heater exploded at a poolside bar at the four-star Bahia Principe hotel in Costa Adeje, Tenerife.
She sustained serious burns to her face and scalp in blast on December 27 and spent 11 days under intensive care at the burns unit of a hospital in the island's capital Santa Cruz.
The incident also left eight-year-old daughter Robyn Anne with moderate burns to her neck and ear, with Kirsteen's husband Stephen and a Belgian holidaymaker treated for minor injuries.
Robyn Anne's grandfather, who also lives in Fernside, Radcliffe, said: "Kirsteen came out of intensive care on Tuesday.
"We have had many concerned phone calls but they are 2,000 miles away so what can we do? Friends have been leaving get well soon messages on a Facebook page."
Mr and Mrs Hughes arrived at the £175-a-night Playo Paraiso resort in the island's capital, Santa Cruz, on Boxing Day with Robyn Anne and their other daughter.
A Canary Island Government spokesman said Stephen and Robyn Anne were treated in a general hospital on the south of the island, while Kirsteen was treated in a specialist burns unit in Santa Cruz.
Last week, the hotel's general manager Jose Luise Fernandez said the hotel was giving full support to loved ones of the injured.
He described the accident as "surprising" and said he had heard that the family were "recovering nicely".
Mr Fernandez added: "According to medical sources and family members, the four guests are thankfully recovering nicely.
"We wish them a complete and speedy recovery.
"The fire started after a server attending the snack bar had prepared the burner dish with a corresponding gel packet used for fuel, in order to warm the serving plates.
"After the explosion, the hotel's help crew and risk-prevention team immediately called upon the aid of fire rescue to attend to the injured guests and were taken to nearby hospitals without delay.
"We find this accident unusual and surprising since this product passes all safety certifications for use and all parts passed timely technical revisions.
"All staff using the equipment are highly trained to use it.
"We are anticipating the results and analysis of police investigators hoping for answers on the cause of this accident."
Kirsteen is a former Darwen Moorland High School pupil and Bolton University student who works as an assistant general manager at property firm JD Laing.
She married Stephen, a firefighter originally from Swinton, in August, 2004.


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We have been working with UPS ground for all of our shippings. And learnd that Fedex Ground is cheaper and faster. For example to New York, Fedex Ground is only three business days, while UPS Ground is 5 business days.
Does anyone has a lot of experience with Fedex Ground? Please share with me your accessment of their service reliability.
The thing holding us back from signing an agreement with Fedex Ground is that they let us waited 4 months, from May to Sept, to just give us a rate agreement. We are worried what their customer service would be like once we signed on.
Any input is greatly appreciated.
fedex is most popular company globally and you must try them.
UPS and DHL make me sign for packages. Fedex just rings the bell and leaves them outside the front door.
The only things I get FedEx are items from NewEgg and it's always been extremely fast.
I'm also using Fedex Ground and they are fast. They also deliver on Saturdays (no additional fee) to major cities in the US (not sure about worldwide).
And they are cheaper too.
Great to know someone has experience with fedex ground. Do you use Fedex GROUND a lot? What is our weekly volume? We were thinking to switch, but were very hesitate to do so. Our weekly volume is around $1500.
I use UPS Ground a lot and prefer it over Fedex Ground--but when it comes to 1 & 2 day air, I've had better luck with Fedex.
My main complaints with Fedex Ground:- Several packages delivered to the wrong address.- States in 1 day UPS range took 2 days with Fedex, sometimes 3.- Fedex Ground drivers (in some areas, anyway) will dump all packages for an apartment complex at the office to save time, claiming they tried to deliver them but no one was home... even though they were seen pulling in the main entrance and going straight to the office.
On the other hand, I've never had a single complaint with Fedex's express service, but can't say the same about UPS next day or second day air.
On a consumer level - I usually prefer Fed-Ex for some reason. We had to integrate a few shopping carts as well into UPS / Fed-Ex. Working with Fed-Ex was a lot easier and they helped us more than UPS. Of course it all depends on who answers the phone but maybe we wer just luck those times with Fed-Ex?
I much prefer UPS.
Fedex ground is all independent contractors. UPS is all unionized people. This can be good or bad. In general I've found the UPS drivers to be more reliable and take better care of your package, they have good jobs with great benefits and they don't want to lose them. Now sure, if you're a high volume shipper and you need packages picked up on a Sunday, UPS isn't going to help you, Fedex Ground might as they're paid based on the number of packages they pickup/deliver.
But, fedex ground drivers just aren't that reliable, like mentioned above. They are much more apt to dump packages without even knocking. They're paid based on the sheer number of packages they can pickup and deliver, so they do cut corners.
Fedex, in my experience, has more fees for pickups.
Fedex does not let you insure certain items for more than $100, its not some niche items either, anything artistic or collectible.
I haven't found fedex to be any cheaper.
For international items I've found fedex to be more of a hassle as well.
I just have never had a good experience with fedex.
My volume is about $1000 a week.
Corey, thanks for your input. Our 99% shipping is Ground. So Ground is very important to our business. If it were Express, we would not hesitate to choose Fedex.
Chris,It's nice to know your experience with your high volume shipment of $1000 a week. In this case, the UPS rep should work with you and give you nice incentive rate, right? My incentive is not that high, for Ground, it is close to 10%. And with some other waivers and Oversize adjustment.
What is nice about UPS is, whenever we call, there is always a rep return the phone call within one or two days, and they can visit your office. When our volume outgrew the initial contract, it was the rep who called me and told me that we need to re-negotiate the rate. That is really something.
On the other hand, I am having a hard time to meet any rep from local, Houston, Texas, all I got is a rep based out of Arizona, which makes the talk very difficult. Not to mention, it took 3 months for them to call me, and another 3-4 months to get a rate agreement. What kind of business can afford this kind of wait? Not until I reported this to their higher up management, did they finally paid attention to us. They once ignored our emails for 20 days. Even they gave us comparable rate to UPS, are we confident enough to switch? No. The sales rep just wanted to get us signed and moved on. We raised the question about transit time twice, and they did not jump on and answer that question.
It is interesting that Chris did not find Fedex GROUND is cheaper than UPS Ground. We compared the rates, and found the Fedex Ground is usually cheaper by 8% - published rate, and they can give you bigger discount like 12% vs 9% of UPS.
Guaranteed Transit TimeUPS Ground guarantee their transit time. But Fedex Ground transit time published is a lot faster than UPS. From Houston to New York is like 5 Biz days UPS and 3 Biz days Fedex Ground. But I don't know if Fedex Ground is guaranteeing it.
Lost Package ClaimEverytime we file a claim for lost package with UPS, it is very resolved very fast, not much wait time. That is a big plus. Adjusting bill has also been easy with UPS, just call them and tell them their dimension measurement is wrong, they will correct them and reflect it on the next bill. With DHL, it takes months.
It is interesting that Chris did not find Fedex GROUND is cheaper than UPS Ground. We compared the rates, and found the Fedex Ground is usually cheaper by 8% - published rate, and they can give you bigger discount like 12% vs 9% of UPS.
Did you compare the total cost or just the rate? I've found Fedex tags on alot of charges.
Interesting, I just wrote some scripts that call both services to get rate quotes using their XML APIs. UPS was by far easier IMO.
I just compared the rate by going to their sites and getting the rate quotes. So it is published rates. We never tried out them, so I do not know their effective rates. What kind of charges they throw in there that are more than UPS'?
I don't recall exactly, but it was atleast $7 in charges for a single package. One was a pickup fee, then there was another couple fees to, then the rate. At no point in the process of doing the shipment were those fees mentioned. I considered it false advertising and did a chargeback.
Fedex is contractors, they run up to the door, ring the bell and run away. The attached says I gave "signature release" but I never have. Better give them a call.


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On Music
Television Man: David Byrne on the CouchBy Brian Gresko
I was born in a house with the television always on. The lyric comes from "Love For Sale," a song penned by David Byrne and recorded on the Talking Heads album True Stories, but the same could be said for where I grew up, in suburban Philadelphia. My dad watched television even when cooking dinner, which seemed crazy to me, minding an open flame while keeping one eye on some "reality" courtroom drama—not sure you can rightfully call those staged scream-fests real. Judge Judy was such a constant presence, she feels like a family friend. I hear her gravelly voice chewing some idiot out and smell Dad's stir-fry.
Our house was small enough that, unless I played music, I couldn't escape the tube's empty murmuring, not even in my room, which abutted my parents'. As a teenager, then, it made sense that I'd fall in love with Talking Heads' song "Found A Job," from their 1978 album More Songs About Buildings and Food. David Byrne, the band's vocalist, guitarist, and songwriter, doesn't so much sing as sing-narrates the story of a couple, Bob and Judy, frustrated watching television because "nothing's on tonight." Byrne as narrator intrudes upon this domestic scene like one of those omniscient charlatans on infomercials—But wait! There's a solution to their problem!—suggesting they "might be better off… making up their own shows, which might be better than TV."
By the song's end, Bob and Judy are collaborating, creating their own TV program, a show that "gets real high ratings." They've saved their relationship and turned their whole lives around. "Bob never yells about the picture now, he's having too much fun," the narrator tells us. He wraps it up like a fable, inviting the listener to "think about this little scene; apply it to your life. If your work isn't what you love, then something isn't right." While Byrne tells the story, his guitar noodles on the edges of a funky, bass-driven rhythm, until, at the end, a six note melody emerges like an epiphany over the groove. Bob and Judy have learned to sing a new tune.


text: NEW YORK ( The Deal) -- Nordson ( NDSN) acquired two polymer processing companies from Germany's Kreyenborg Group for a total of 135 million euros ($176.5 million), according to a July 18 regulatory filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.The two German companies Nordson acquired are Munster-based Kreyenborg and BKG Bruckmann & Kreyenborg Granuliertechnik, according to the July 16 SEC filing. Jones Day LLP served as Nordson's legal counsel. The acquirer didn't engage financial advisors for the transaction. Headquartered in Westlake, Ohio, Nordson manufactures and distributes screen chargers, valves, pumps and components for processing polymers. Both the German companies are involved in the production of special polymers. The acquisition of the German companies will extend Nordson's business into pelletizers production, a component used in polymer recycling. The deal also will extend Nordson's footprint to the Asian markets of Shanghai and Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. "These businesses are highly complementary to our other recent acquisitions in the polymer processing space and fit our strategy," Nordson President and CEO Michael F. Hilton said in a statement on Thursday, July 18. Over the past year, Nordson has strengthened its hold in the polymer market by seeking strategic add-ons. Nearly a year ago, on July 21, it purchased New Castle, Pa.-based Xaloy Superior Holdings Inc. for $200 million. Xaloy is involved in the production of melt delivery components used in plastic processing. Before that deal, Nordson on May 21, 2012, purchased Chippewa Falls, Wisc.-based EDI Holdings Inc. for $200 million. EDI is involved in the manufacture of polymers used for plastic processors and web converters. Nordson, which posted a 21% increase in sales to $382 million in the second quarter, ended April 30, compared to $315.193 million for the same period last year, will continue to pursue its growth strategy through bolt-on acquisitions, according to Scott Wilbum, a Nordson spokesman. Wilbum confirmed by email that the company will "continue to evaluate opportunities" for expansion. Nordson in the second quarter had $54.6 million in net income, a 4.7% increase over the $52.1 million it had in the same year-ago period. Nordson's $82 million in operating profits in the second quarter was 6.7% more than the $76.8 million in the same period a year ago.


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- After the Silverdome Awards and a wedding- I thought I was done traveling for awhile... But spent most of the morning on the road for a story. Good thing it will be a GREAT story! :)
- I like when it's thundering outside and I have nowhere to go and nothing to do but BLOG.
- I had a total spa afternoon yesterday... bath, facial mask, exfoliated, and used Vaseline Cocoa Butter Vitalizing Gel body oil. Don't know if I've ever been so nicely moisturized. It was just fantastic.
- Stayed with my parents while we were home for the wedding... mom sent me home with a bag full of goodies- homemade banana bread, homemade crescent rolls, and 100 calorie packs that she bagged up herself from various snacks. Thanks mom!
- It was nice to also hang out with dad on father's day weekend! Glad you're enjoying the new golf balls!
- Cupdate: (Cupcake Update) She has been incredibly sweet since we've been home! She doesn't want us leaving again anytime soon! :)
Tuesday, June 21, 2011
Milani Lip Flash Shimmer Gloss Pencils
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Oh wow those are great, I was worried that it would kind of look matte like a lip pencil, but these have beautiful shine :)ReplyDelete
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- AshleyavdJune 22, 2011 at 6:41 AM
The top "Flashy" looks amazing on you!ReplyDelete
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