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NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 560 Ti w/448 Cores: GTX 570 On A Budgetby Ryan Smith on 11/29/2011 9:00 AM EST
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Jamahl - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkIn your 560 Ti review you said that it was "a bit faster" than the 6950. What's changed? Maybe AMD's drivers are helping to pull the card away because it's clearly ahead here with the same games being tested.
"The GTX 560 Ti ultimately has the edge: it's a bit faster and it's quieter than the 6950"
Perhaps you should do an article on that one? You know you were one of the very few sites on the web who actually found the 560 Ti to be faster than the 6950 in the first place?
I wonder why that was. Reply
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkIf you haven't already, I'd invite you to take a look at Bench, our online benchmark database. The video card numbers are periodically revised for newer articles, which is what you're seeing here.
The latest data we have for the 6950 vs. the GTX 560 Ti: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=330 Reply
Jamahl - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkGlad to see you are keeping those updated and thanks for the reply.
My point was, what happened to the 560 Ti's lead from your initial review? Looking at that bench now the 6950 is a good bit ahead.
Drivers? Reply
Ryan Smith - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkYes, I'd say that's a fair assessment. Looking at 1920 between January and November
Crysis: 48.6->51.4
CivV: 34.8->40.1
Note that the 560 Ti was launched only a month after the 6900 series, so AMD only had a short amount of time to optimize their 6900 drivers between the 6900 launch and then. Whereas they've had another 10 months since then to work on their drivers further. Given the similarities between VLIW4 and VLIW5, if you had asked me for my expectations 10 months ago it's actually more than I thought AMD would get out of optimizations.
Meanwhile the 560 Ti has shifted very little in comparison, which is not surprising since the Fermi-lite architecture had been around for over half a year by that point.
The 560 Ti and 6950 still trade blows depending on the game in a very obvious way, but the 6950 is now winning more games and on a pure numerical average is clearly doing better. Reply
Jamahl - Friday, December 02, 2011 - linkYep that looks like a pretty fair assessment. I was suprised to see the gap open up so clearly. Reply
pixelstuff - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkAre these all of the crappy GF110 processors that had manufacturing defects? Reply
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkCorrect. Technically speaking NVIDIA could take perfectly good GF110 GPUs can still make products like this, but it wouldn't make any sense for them to do so. All of these cards would be using GF110 GPUs with 2 defective SMs. Reply
Duwelon - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkYour image shows 3 defective SMs. At least i'm assuming it's supposed to be the "new" chip. Reply
Ryan Smith - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkIndeed, that was a diagram error on my part. It's been fixed. Reply
piroroadkill - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkI'd still regard the 6950 2GB as the best value proposition card, and it has been ever since the launch of the card almost a year ago.
Even though I only bought one recently, and heard the extra shaders had been lasered off, this thankfully proved wrong, and one BIOS update later and I have a 6970.
You can't ignore value like that. Reply
Transmitthis14 - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkMany would ignore "Value" like that.
I use Premier and Pshop, (cuda Acceleration) and also like the option of Physx with my Games when coded for.
So A 6950 then becomes a none option Reply
Exodite - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkFringe benefits like those swing both ways though.
I need three simultaneous display outputs, which render Nvidia options redundant in much the same way.
Looking strictly at price/performance, which is the metric most consumers would use in this case, the 2GB 6950 is indeed an excellent option. Reply
grammaton.feather - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkOh really?
I also agree with the CUDA argument. I have used Nvidia for years because of stereoscopic 3d support, more recently CUDA and PhysX and because I don't have driver crashes with Nvidia.
ATI may be better value for money at the cheap end of the spectrum, so long as u don't mind driver crashes.
A friend who used his high end PC for business had 170 plus ATI driver crashes logged by windows. I chose an Nvidia GPU for him and the crashing stopped. Reply
rum - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkI have had nothing but ATI cards since the 3870, and have NOT experienced these driver crashes you are speaking of.
I use my computers for gaming and computer programming, and sometimes I do actually stress my system. :)
I am in the process of evaluating my video needs, as I do need a new video card for a new PC. I won't blindly go with ATI, I will EVALUATE all aspects and get the best card for the MONEY.
I don't need cutting edge, neither do most people, and we do evaluate things on most bang for the buck. Reply
VoraciousGorak - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkFunny, since I Fold on a GTX275, GTX460, and 9800GT on two different systems, and pretty often have NVIDIA's drivers lose their minds when finishing a WU, shutting down the system, or while simply processing a WU. I've tried multiple WHQL and beta drivers and settled with these being the least of my problems (the worst being total system unresponsiveness while Folding and a hard reset after a client stopped.) However, when I folded on my 6950 (granted, different client, but I Folded on it with the Beta client too) it never had a driver freakout, screen blank, or even a flicker when turning on or shutting off WUs.
It seems to me that people that have major driver issues with AMD (not ATI anymore, by the way) cards are outliers, relative novices, and/or are using very outdated drivers or are recounting stories back from when the ATI 9700 series were new. I'm probably an outlier as well with my NVIDIA gripes, but characterizing a major modern GPU manufacturer with constant widespread driver issues or stating that any GPU is guaranteed to have problems is just silly. Reply
silverblue - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - linkOddly, those people who slate AMD are the ones who never ever seem to have an NVIDIA crash, or at least won't admit to one. Reply
Gorghor - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - linkI know this has no technical relevance, but I thought I'd share since my first reaction when I saw the article title, was "did I make a mistake buying an ATI6950?"
For some reason I have been sticking to nVidia cards since the days of the Geforce 2. I made an exception with the ATI 9800 and although the performance was good back then, I had many problems with the drivers and really didn't approve of the catalyst control center.
When I upgraded my mainboard to the Sandy-bridge generation, I left my "old" GTX285 in the system and had several daily crashes related to the nVidia drivers (even after several months and driver updates).
About a month ago I decided it was time for me to upgrade the graphics. I wanted to stick to nVidia albeit the problems with my GTX285, but the price/performance ratio was just unacceptable when compared to AMD cards. I chose the ATI6950 2GB considering the same money would barely get me a GTX560.
I have to say I'm impressed. The performance is truly exceptional, even with no shader unlock, the catalyst interface has really matured over the years and my crashes are completely gone. So as far as I'm concerned, blindly going for nVidia is not an option anymore. Reply
Golgatha - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkwhat I take away from this review is the 560-448 is pretty much on par with a stock 570, but it will only be manufactured for roughly 2 months, and then be discontinued. Why would any gamer buy this card when they can get a superior card within $20 of this one and pretty much be guaranteed availability if they want to run SLI? Also, what's with the power connectors on the rear of the card. All of these long cards should situate those connectors on the top of the card. Reply
jigglywiggly - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkI'd avoid it, you will probably be screwd with drivers in the long run. Reply
Samus - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkAs far as drivers and modern games go, people with ATI hardware have been having substantially more problems in Battlefield 3. Then the issue of microstutter arises which barely affects nVidia hardware, for what can only be presumed to be a ATI driver problem. Lastly, many people have experienced PowerPlay problems with Radeon 4000-5000 series cards running newer drivers due to clockspeed changes in-game, sometimes causing BSOD's, but always causing performance problems.
nVidia has been, and always will be, the kind of drivers. The days of Mach64 still plague ATI's driver developement team. nVidia invented unified drivers and changed the game for the industry. They update their SLI profiles more than twice as often as ATI does for Crossfire, which alone shows their loyalty to their SLI users.
ATI has the hardware engineering team. That's clear. They can produce faster cards that use less power at lower prices. But you will NOT get superior drivers by a longshot. Reply
Marlin1975 - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkhahahha.... spoken like a true nvidia employee/spokesman/shill. Reply
Mathieu Bourgie - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - link"Then the issue of microstutter arises which barely affects nVidia hardware, for what can only be presumed to be a ATI driver problem."
That's rubbish, Tech Report and Tom's Hardware articles covering micro-stuttering clearly proved that micro-stuttering is an issue on both AMD and Nvidia video cards.
While I'll agree that on average, Nvidia drivers tend to be less problematic, the quality of AMD drivers has improved over the years, aren't as problematic as they used to be and aren't nearly as far behind Nvidia drivers as you paint it. Reply
greylica - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkIt's another card based on Ferm(ented) hardware. I will pass by for all of GTX 4XX and 5XX waiting for cards that do respect their own specifications in OpenGL without fails like the well known Nvidia problem about GLReadPixels... Reply
Alka - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkHey, I've seen you're picture before Mathieu. Aren't you the guy who steals the Tom's Hardware best graphics cards for the month format and content? You pass it off as your own on your personal blog, right? Reply
Mathieu Bourgie - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkStealing from their content?
If you paid attention to the content of my article and compared it to the content of Tom's Hardware article, you'd notice that my recommendations tend to be quite different from theirs and that they are backed by factual performance numbers coming from various sources, including AnandTech. I also tend to publish my monthly updates before Tom's Hardware do.
Stealing "their" format?
It's like saying that PC makers are copying Apple ideas because "Apple did it first", when Apple didn't do it first. Apple took an existing idea and improved on it and then when some PC makers decided to have their take on the idea, Apple fanboys are crying that PC makers are copying "Apple's idea".
In the past, many other websites, who write about various topics, did "value comparison" articles and did so before Tom's Hardware did theirs. Guess what? Such "value comparison" articles existed before the Internet was mainstream.
The concept that I'm stealing "their" format is as ridiculous as someone saying that website B, who did a review on the latest CPUs, stole website A format because website A were the first to review the latest CPUs. Reply
Alka - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkDude, you've directly copied and pasted sections of their article without giving credit. That's beyond your own take on a value comparison.
Do you really want me to post specific examples of your plagiarism? Reply
Mathieu Bourgie - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkAlka,
While I wouldn't be surprised that our articles share some similarities, including similar recommendations, which is to be expected since our articles cover the same products available on the market, accusing me of directly copying and pasting sections of their article without giving credit is taking your comment to a whole other level of disrespect and makes me wonder what's your goal here, if not only trolling...
"Do you really want me to post specific examples of your plagiarism? "
While I'd have no problem listening to you and perhaps making some correction(s) to my article if it possibly looks like someone may think that I could have copied content from Tom's Hardware article, I would rather not do this over this comments section at AnandTech, out of respect for Ryan, Anand and the rest of AnandTech's team, whose articles I truly enjoy and wouldn't want to add a bunch of unrelated comments to their great articles.
I invite you to contact me via:
- The contact form on my website
- Facebook
- Twitter
- Google my name
- Etc.
You have plenty of ways to reach me if you want to further discuss this, without filling this comment section with comments unrelated to this article and without bothering everyone else here.
Mathieu Reply
Alka - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkNo point, you've clearly convinced yourself that shameless plagiarism is acceptable without giving proper credit. Reply
JonnyDough - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - linkIrregardless of any fanboyism here, or whether or not you steal text,
"That's rubbish, Tech Report and Tom's Hardware articles covering micro-stuttering clearly proved that micro-stuttering is an issue on both AMD and Nvidia video cards."
That is truth. Reply
formulav8 - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkOne of the most useless and fannish posts on here. Reply
Assimilator87 - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkBad drivers are the reason I'm switching back to ATi next round. Six months to fix a very annoying F@H issue is not acceptable in my book. Reply
Zed03 - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkJust keep in mind this review is from the same people that claimed GTX 560 ti is faster than 6950.
All of these charts were selected to make the the GTX 560 448 look good.
On the Crysis, Battleforce, and Metro page, when the 6970 has a 30% lead, they call it a:
"With Metro 2033 we see AMD and NVIDIA swap positions again, this time leaving AMD's lineup with the very slight edge."
On the remainder of the reviews, when the GTX 560 448 performs 5% faster in a certain configuration, the performance is "dominating".
Wait for a real benchmark. Reply
Mstngs351 - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkYou may want to drop your biased view of Anandtech and pay closer attention to the article.
"With Metro 2033 we see AMD and NVIDIA swap positions again, this time leaving AMD's lineup with the very slight edge." You'll notice that it states "lineup" not 560ti 448.
You would also do well to notice that when it came to Metro 2033 the 580 was top dog at all resolutions so making the statement that AMD has a "slight edge" is, in my opinion generous. Reply
DaveLessnau - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkThis is purely a comment about the editing of the article. I don't know if it's a function of your word processing software or if it's something you did on purpose, but ordinal numbers like 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc., don't superscript the alpha part. Every time I ran across your superscripted ordinals, my eyes just locked onto the word and I lost track of the article flow. If at all possible, please fix that. Reply
DaveLessnau - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkOh, and I know that Word superscripts ordinals, too. But, it doesn't put the baseline of the superscript above the top line of the regular characters. Reply
Ryan Smith - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkYou're correct, I am using Word to write the text for these articles. Our CMS converts Word superscript to <sup> tags, which is why you're selling the final result since HTML4 says that superscript "appears half a character above the baseline". I do like having superscript, but you make a good point in that being above the baseline is annoying, so I'll go take a look at it. Reply
siberian3 - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkWho cares for such a product so late in the game when we
are waiting Radeon HD7xxx and NV GTX6xx cards in a few months? Reply
Performance Fanboi - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkIf they were going with something that clumsy they should have just gone with GTX560-ClearingSiliconinAdvanceofKepler-448
Seriously though, GTO560 for a so-called limited card at the end of the product cycle would have fit better eg: 7900GTO when they were clearing out G70. Reply
nevertell - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkHave you tried unlocking the locked off cores ? This was the only incentive to buy a 465 back in the day. That's what I was hoping for anyway, when I first heard about nvidia releasing another GF100 based product. Reply
Leyawiin - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkIts a very good card for a decent price if you can't wait for the next gen from both companies. Kind of amusing all the withering comments and hair-splitting over review game choices. Its a better card than the HD 6950. Period. Give it the due it deserves. Reply
Marlin1975 - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkI can get a 6950 for $200 AR right now. The 560-448 is going in the low $300 range right now.
Unless it gets 50% more frames/performance it is not better than a 6950.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8... Reply
Finally - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkFor several months now the 2 leading cards in any P/P comparison have been the HD6870 and its HD6850 twin. I just picked one up this month and I'm delighted. As long as consoles won't learn how to upgrade their GPUs, I don't see a necessity for anything above that range of graphics power...
Of course, this is an *throws up* enthusiast website, so anyone who's not willing to build a system with at least 2 GPUs, a 1200W power supply and a triple monitor setup, leave the room, we are not interested in you. Reply
Leyawiin - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkThe cheapest 1GB HD 6950 on Newegg (who is generally the lowest price on video cards) is $240. The cheapest HD 6950 2GB is $255. You pay that upfront - rebates (if they go well) are months down the road. The GTX 560 448 is about 10% faster. Yes, its the better card. Reply
Marlin1975 - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkThe cheapest 560-448 I have seen so far is in the low $300 range. I can get a 6950 in the low $200 range.
10% more performance for 50% more price is not better. Reply
Ushio01 - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkThe image of the GF110 on the first page is wrong it shows 3 deactivated SM units which would make this card a 416 shader part. It should show 2 deactivated SM units for a 448 shader part. Reply
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkThanks. You are correct. That will be fixed later today. Reply
Per Hansson - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkHi, what about overclocking?
Is this GPU poor at it since it's been binned so hard or is it just that another SM unit where bad while not hindering the clockspeed of the chip? Reply
Ryan Smith - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkI did not have a chance to test overclocking (I only had a single day to test the card). However since NVIDIA is binning chips based on defective SMs, I have no reason to believe that overclocking should be significantly different from the 570. Reply
MrSpadge - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - link"NVIDIA is purposely introducing namespace collisions, and while they have their reasons I don't believe them to be good enough."
That nails it. Not sure if I should laugh or cry about the current name. They introduced a 3-letter prefix and 3-digit numbers to get rid of the obscure subscripts.. only to reintroduce the "Ti" (why was that one not the GTX565?!) and now this addition to "Ti". Hilarious, if this were a commedy show.
And remind you, just because nVidia did much worse in the past doesn't make this any better...
MrS Reply
Belard - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkThat is why I DO NOT BUY or SELL nvidia products. This new name proves they are getting dumber by the month. This should be a 570-LE, simple .
All these names are stupid since the end of the GeForce 9000 series. While AMD has been mostly good with their names... Mostly. AMD HD 6870, easy.
Gtx vs gt is stupid since they don't make a 550 gt and 550 gtx. TI = totally worthless for a name. If this only atttracts dumb customers, they can keep them. Reply
ericore - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkThis card is the most Perfect example of a corporation trying to milk the consumer.
The new Geforce cards are just after Christmas, so what does Nvidia do release a limited addition crap product VS what's around the corner and with a crappy name. The limited namespace is ingenious, but I must hardheadedly agree with Anand on the namespace issue.
Intelligent people will forgot this card, and wait till after Christmas. Nvidia will have no choice to release Graphics card in Q1 because AMD is going to deliver a serious can of whip ass because of their ingenious decision to go with a low power process silicon VS high performance. You see, they've managed to keep the performance but at half the power then add that it is 28nm VS 40nm and what an nerdy orgasm that is. Nvidia will be on their knees, and we may finally see them offer much lower priced cards; so do you buy from the pegger or from the provider? That's a rhetorical question haha. Reply
Revdarian - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkActually after Christmas you can expect is a 7800 by AMD (that is mid range of the new production, think around or better than current 6900), one month later with luck the high end AMD, and you won't expect the green camp to get a counter until March at the earliest.
Now that was said on a Hard website by the owner directly, so i would take it as being very accurate all in all. Reply
ericore - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkHAha, so same performance at half the power + 28nm VS 40nm + potential Rambus memory which is twice as fast, all in all we are looking at -- at least -- double frame rates. Nvidia was an uber fail with their fermi hype. AMD has not hyped the product at all, but rest assure it will be a bomb and in fact is the exact opposite story to fermi. Clever AMD you do me justice in your intelligent business decisions, worthy of my purchase. Reply
HStanford1 - Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - linkCan't say the same about their CPU lineup
Roflmao Reply
granulated - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkThe ad placement under the headline is for the old 384 pipe card !
If that isn't an accident I will be seriously annoyed. Reply
DanNeely - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - link"It's quite interesting to find that idle system power consumption is several watts lower than it is with the GTX 570. Truth be told we don't have a great explanation for this; there's the obvious difference in coolers, but it's rare to see a single fan have this kind of an impact."
I think it's more likely that Zotak used marginally more efficient power circuitry than on the 570 you're comparing against. 1W there is a 0.6% efficiency edge, 1W on a fan at idle speed is probably at least a 30% difference. Reply
LordSojar - Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - linkLook at all the angry anti-nVidia comments, particularly those about them releasing this card before the GTX 600 series.
nVidia is a company. They are here to make money. If you're an uninformed consumer, then you are a company's (no matter what type they are) bread and butter, PERIOD. You people seem to forget companies aren't in the charity business...
As for this card, it's an admirable performer, and a good alternative to the GTX 570. That's all it is.
As for AMD... driver issues or not aside, their control panel is absolutely god awful (and I utilize a system with a fully updated CCC daily). CCC is a totally hilarious joke and should be gutted and redone completely; it's clunky, filled with overlapping/redundant options and ad-ridden. Total garbage... if you even attempt to defend that, you are the very definition of a fanboy.
As for microstutter, AMD's Crossfire is generally worse at first simply because of the lack of frequent CFX profile updates. Once those updates are in place, it's a non issue between the two companies, they both have it in some capacity using dual/tri/quad GPU solutions. Stop jumping around with your red or green pompoms like children.
AMD has fewer overall features at a lower overall price. nVidia has more overall features at a higher overall price. Gee... who saw that coming...? Both companies make respectable GPUs and both have decent drivers, but it's a fact that nVidia tend to have the edge in the driver category while AMD have an edge in the actual hardware design category. One is focused on very streamlined, gaming centric graphics cards while the other is focused on more robust, computing centric graphics cards. Get a clue...
...and let's not even discuss CUDA vs Stream... Stream is total rubbish, and if you don't program, you have no say in countering that point, so please don't even attempt to. Any programmer worth their weight will tell you, quite simply, that for massively parallel workloads where GPU computing has an advantage that CUDA is vastly superior to ANYTHING AMD offers by several orders of magnitude and that nVidia offers far better support in the professional market when compared to AMD.
I'm a user of both products, and personally, I do prefer nVidia, but I try not to condemn people for using AMD products until the moment they try to assert that they got a better deal or condemn me for slightly preferring nVidia due to feature sets. People will choose what they want; power users generally go with nVidia, which does carry a price premium for the premium feature sets. Mainstream and gaming enthusiasts go with AMD, because they are more affordable for every fps you get. Welcome to Graphics 101. Class dismissed. Reply
marklahn - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkSimply put, nvidia has cuda and physx, amd has higher ALU performance which can be beneficial in some scenarios - gogo OpenCL for not being vendor specific though! Reply
marklahn - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkOh and Close to the Metal, brook and stream are all mainly things of the past, so don't bring that up please. ;) Reply
Revdarian - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkSuch a long post does not make you right, in the part of "CUDA vs Stream" you actually mean "CUDA vs OpenCL and DirectCompute" for example, as those are the two vendor agnostic standards, so that just shows that what is really "rubbish" is your attempt to pose as an authority on the subject. Reply
ericore - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkIts fine that they need to make money; but they insult my intellegence which is why I am putting them down.
There is no justification for buying this reviewed card; any statement in contradiction to this is a folly.
It is true that Nvidia has superior drivers, and superior professional support, and superior architecture for professionals.
But most people fall out of this branch, and therefore AMD is the better contender for shear gaming performance and Eye Infinity far superior
than what Nvidia offers. AMD's control panel, can use some work; you're right about that, the total garbage aspect reveals in fact that you are
an Nvidia fanboy; you betrayed yourself. I don't care for the microstutter argument. As for the AMD has less features argument, it is absolute garbage; I gagged at your narrow-mindedness as you seem only able to present the professional perspective rather than being objective. AMD in fact, for consumers offers all relevant features that Nvidia offers plus more, minus 3D which is still irrelivant at this point; we (the ppl) don't have 3D TVs. Cuda is superior, but AMD can still rape ( you heard me right ) Nvidia in software like Elcomsoft Wireless Auditor, conversely ditto for Nvidia regarding video rendering. Ha you Nvidia fanboy, blessing and protecting each feature Nvidia has to offer; isn't that cute. Power users lol, let's get one thing straight power users does not mean Professional; only professional means that. Power Users just means users who can and do use wide variety of software, can extend beyond this software, and has knowledge of programming; check mark to all, I have. You naughty Nvidia fanboy. Reply
cactusdog - Monday, December 05, 2011 - linkIts funny when people complain about AMD drivers when its obvious they have not used them, or are very new to them.
CCC isnt " Ad ridden" The AMD home page can be completely disabled (unticked) to not show any web content. Only someone who is unfamiliar with AMD software would not know that.
CCC has built in overclocking control and manual fan control and all the settings one would need. If you cant cope with them you can set CCC to Basic mode.
The only people that complain about AMD drivers are 99% of the time first time users and have little to no experience with it.
Crossfire/SLI is a different matter and both companies have issues. I've been recommending against a multi-gpu setup for years. If you choose a multi-gpu setup be prepared for driver issues, stuttering, waiting for profiles, and some games that will never have multi-gpu support.
I've used both and never had driver issues with either, but I prefer AMD image quality to Nvidia. Thats the most important thing for me. I dont use anything that can make use of Cuda, and physx is mostly a marketing ploy. Reply
HStanford1 - Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - linkI've got two 460's and never had to bother with botched drivers or microstuttering.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I dread the day it happens Reply
bill4 - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkThere's a lot to like about your reviews, but why the same old dated games you've been benchmarking forever? Why no BF3, Crysis 2, Witcher 2, etc benchmarks? EG, the latest and greatest most demanding games? Heck you guys even still use Hawx, I have NO idea why that game has a sequel and is 500 years old! I dont care what these video cards do on old games where they get 140 FPS, which I see in so many reviews! I look at the results in the most demanding games.
Well the reason you mentioned in one review for using Hawx is, "it's the only flight game with a built in benchmark" or something like that. As if you just want to press a "benchmark" button and not do any actual work. Seems lazy, just use fraps or something for a bench and update your games, please! Reply
Ryan Smith - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkWe update our benchmark suite every 6-12 months as necessary. As you've noted the current suite is rather long in the tooth and we'll be updating the benchmark suite next month (December) when we switch the testbed to SNB-E. In the meantime we're using the current suite to keep the tests consistent for this generation of cards. Reply
Alexo - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - linkSwitching to SNB-E will be a disservice to most of your readers (which don't use that platform) as it will give skewed results. Reply
carage - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkDoes anyone know how this card handles HDMI Audio Bitstreaming?
I assume it would inherit the same half-baked feature set as the old 570.
So HTPC users should steer away unless proven otherwise. Reply
Ryan Smith - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkAs HDMI audio bitstreaming is a function of the GPU (rather than drivers or otherwise), it will be the same as GTX 570/580. Reply
Per Hansson - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkcarage: what's wrong with it on the 570 & 580? (I own neither) Reply
jweller - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkHow is $280 considered "budget"? Reply
venomblade - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkIs it a type-o how the 560 ti 448 has a mem clock of 900mhz and yet you say it has an effective speed of 3800mhz? Shouldn't it be 3600mhz? Reply
Ryan Smith - Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - linkHeh, it turns out doing math on a plane is harder than I thought. Thanks for that. Fixed. Reply
JonnyDough - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - linkGood strategy to be getting rid of bad chips and appearing to dominate a bit more of the high end market, even if it is the same product. Still, they are not necessarily better cards than what AMD offers, and remember how late Fermi was coming to the game. AMD will soon have the 7000 series, which everyone but the NVidia camp and its followers are awaiting. =) Reply
Finally - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - linkAnand doesn't offer any Price/Performance comparisons. If they did, the HD6850 and HD6870 haven been clogging the first 2 places for several months now... Reply
JonnyDough - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - link"NVIDIA is purposely introducing namespace collisions, and while they have their reasons I don't believe them to be good enough"
Its really no surprise, Nvidia has been f'n up names since Matrox was around. Whoever keeps naming their cards should have been fired in 1997.
If you were to post one only one comment here with the ability to rate it to 1000 that said "Nvidia sucks at naming their video cards" it would be rated up to 1001. Their confusing naming schemes are one big reason I buy AMD's video cards. At least with AMD I can keep track of what I am buying. I don't even bother keeping up with Nvidia cards for this very reason. You would think that a simple numbering system based on performance would suffice, and additional letters for things that specialty cards support. For instance, if only specific rare cards could do CUDA processing, then add a "C" moniker. This isn't hard Nvidia. Fix it with your next generation, or keep losing customers because of your stupidity. Reply
silverblue - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - linkYes, but AMD aren't perfect either; the 6770 and 5770 spring to mind.
NVIDIA reminds me of Intel albeit not so bad; with Intel you have to research whether the chip you're looking at even supports VT-d. Reply
Finally - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - linkI don't care much for names, although I found their re-re-re-branding of the 8800GT atrocious... Well, I just tend to go for the GPU maker that offer me the most bang for the buck - and none of these cards have cost me more than 150€... my last 3 cards where 7600GT, HD4850 and now it's an HD6870. German hardware review page always offers a Performance/€ comparison table and that's where I look before I go shopping. Reply
Finally - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - link...and their name is computerbase dot de Reply
Burticus - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - linkGood for Nvidia to be able to utilized slightly flawed chips... but what's the consumer value here? The price point @ $300 puts it next or very close to GTX 570. Why not just get one of those? The 560 TI's are finally getting down to the $200 range.... maybe if the 448 core version was $250 instead of $300. Reply
Matrices - Thursday, December 01, 2011 - linkAgreed. The pricing is off the mark. 570s are $330 to $350 and 560 Tis can be had for $200 to $220 with minor rebates.
The $290-$300 price point of this thing is skewed too far in the wrong direction. Reply


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"and do you laugh [to scorn] and do not cry?"
ADNAN OKTAR : Such a person is heedless. He laughs all the time. He never speaks of Allah or religion or Islam. But he would stop laughing if he could see his situation in the hereafter. What would he do? He would be terrified and pull himself together. He would weep and try to get Allah to forgive him. But what if he could see his situation in the hereafter if he heedlessly and mindlessly attacks people and plays games with them, if he hurts and oppresses them, if he attaches no importance to Islam and the Qur'an, if he works against Islam and religion, if he says ugly things about Allah, religion, sacred issues and Muslims on the web sites, and even laughs at these, if he uses sinful expressions and then laughs at what he has done? Then he would be terrified and weep and repent. That is what is being referred to, insha'Allah.
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When editing a published article (could be years old) to add in additional information to keep it relevant/up to date, do you change the published date to the current date?
I've got a few different types of articles that will require updates, it could be yearly updates or some may not need updating for a few years. These articles are linked all over the web and are used as references in some places so I don't want to change the urls.
I'm not sure if there is a best practice when dealing with something like this. I'm thinking of just changing the published date to reflect the latest change and just add in a comment to say when the article was originally published and that it has now been updated.
I use Wordpress so want to make sure the content displays on the homepage to show the updates but I think the only way to do that is changing the published date.
I don't know if changing the date would cause any issues with Google either...
Any help/advice would be appreciated.
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Unless you intend to completely rewrite the article, I would leave the original date and add that it has been updated in a comment or maybe in a short paragraph at top explaining that the article was updated and why the update was necessary and/or beneficial.
However, on the other hand, I often search in Google for articles written in the past month or year. I don't know whether or not changing the original date would be a help or a hindrance.
In the copyright info (if you use it) you might put "Copyright MM/DD/YYYY - MM/DD/YYYY". However, that in itself doesn't declare that the info was updated.
Not much help, but I know that I would take the first option (original date and update note) if it were my article. But then, I don't care much what Google thinks as long as my visitors get the message.
It's true that Google gives value to content that is updated and unique, affecting the date will temporarily (if any) improve your rankings.
You can change the date on posts quite easily in WP, either by changing the database entries or much simpler by using the front view. Go in your post, select edit, and on the right-hand side on the 'publishing' pane, adjust the date to your desired publishing date.
If it's an old article it's best left as an old article, duping dates only really needs to be done if it was not published prior, or for one reason or another needed republishing after a great deal of work being done to it.
I'd go with Shyflower's suggestion, too. I'd place some update notes on my old post, then maybe make it a lot more noticeable by putting a snippet of the updated content on the front page of my site. It's either that or I can make a completely new post that would compare the things that are happening right now with the state of things back when the old content was written.
Changing the published date is often easier in Wordpress. However, if you have some time you can check out the Wordpress Codex for details on the modified_date PHP code.
By editing your theme you can then switch the published date to read the modified date. Any updates in the future will then be displayed on the published post without having to change the actual published date.
This is how some sites have "published on ..." and the "reviewed on ..." or "updated on ...". But don't use two dates on the same post as it can be confusing as I have discovered from experience.
I would agree with the above. If you're doing a major rewrite of your article then IMO it's best to post it as a separate article and leave the original as reference (you could even post a link to the old article from the new one).
If you're just editing to keep the article up-to-date and current, then I'd agree with leaving the published date as is and appending a note to either the beginning or end of your article stating what changed and why.


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Thomas Rhett did a great job firing up the crowd Friday night, and expectations for a great night of fun and music were getting higher as he finished his set.
Rhett sang such hits as Beer With Jesus, All American Middle Class White Boy and Sorry for Partying. As he finished, ominous clouds approached from the west.
As dark clouds filled with lightning approached, people were advised to get clear of the steel around the stage, and told that it would be a 10-15 minute wait.
Then a second announcement advised people that winds were expected to blow at 50 miles per hour and they might be safer in their vehicles.
The high winds and hail around 9:15 p.m. sent many people to their cars.
As the first and worst part of the storm passed 45 minutes later, some folks entertained themselves by sliding in the mud in and around the arena.
Police arrested a man who stripped to his underwear for mud-sliding.
After the rain quit, the crowd waited more than a hour for the music to start again. Some yelled Money back, but the chant did not catch on and died away.
One hundred people arrived on a bus from Ogallala for the concert and did some of the booing. Several said they wanted to go home because they had to work in the morning.
As the rain quit, people returned to the floor of the arena and stood together, waiting. A few fights broke out.
When Kid Rock finally took the stage shortly after midnight, he got everyone into party mode again.
The Kid rambled across the stage, urging the crowd on, performing rap, hip-hop and his best-known country songs for about 45 minutes. Then the concert was called because of the late hour.
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The weather-shortened concert left people disappointed, but with some appreciation for what they managed to see.
"Had a fantastic time last night, Cindy Harris of North Platte said the next morning. Too bad it rained and hailed though. We had to fork out some cash for hoodies, so we all didn't freeze. O well, a good souvenir for the night anyway. As for the couple of guys that got arrested for doing belly slides in the mud, that was total BS. They were just trying to make the best of a bad situation. Well anyway, I had a great time with some friends.
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Three months ago, I blogged about a proposal from the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, to get rid of the option to take Social Security at age 62. Holy cow, the people who thought this was a lousy retirement planning proposal have continued to fill my e-mail inbox with their thoughts.
This note, from a woman who begged to be anonymous, seems to reflect the majority opinion about retirement timing most eloquently:
"I totally disagree with your premise to raise the age of full retirement benefits. I am currently 60 years old. I do not have a retirement account and have a meager pension to collect when I retire. I cannot wait to retire! I am tired, sick and need to step away from the enormous stress of my job. I cannot accomplish this until I am 63 and am terrified that reckless ideas as yours will be enacted.
I cannot work until 66. That is not an option, but I am not sick enough to qualify for disability. I have worked full time -- two and three jobs at a time -- since I was 15 years old. They have collected Social Security from every one of those paychecks, an amount I doubt I will ever fully collect.
You might wonder why I am not better prepared for my retirement. I was a single mother, I raised a wonderful son, kept a roof over our heads and never, ever relied on public assistance. There were too many weeks we had to decide if we would buy groceries or pay bills. (I am sure you have no concept of this lifestyle). I don't regret those years, just wish there had been other options.
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Sitepoint Members,The submit button below does have a blue background with white letters. I've been trying to get the field for the text blue and the text being typed white and I can't get it to those colors.
<form action="http://www......searchresults.html" id="cse-search-box">
<input type="hidden" name="cx" value="009478971803505951972:l1rvmz2xync" /><input type="hidden" name="cof" value="FORID:9" /><input type="hidden" name="ie" value="UTF-8" /><input type="text" name="q" size="44" title="Enter Terms" /><input class="submit" type="submit" name="sa" value="Submit" />
</form>
The last <input> is the submit button.The second to last <input> is the field for typing in your search terms.
I tried changing<input type="text" name="q" size="44" title="Enter Terms" />To<input class="text" type="text" name="q" size="44" title="Enter Terms" />
for CSSinput.text{background-color:#3f3f7f;color:#fff}
but it didn't work. Is it possible to change that google text field?
It should work (it works for me). You might be better off using background: #3f3f7f rather than background-color: #3f3f7f. But apart from that, adding a class and those styles should do just what you want. Or you could also leave out the class and do
input[type="text"] {background:#3f3f7f;color:#fff}
though that won't work on some older browsers.
Ralph,I tried<input class="text" type="text" name="q" size="44" title="Enter Terms" />withinput.text{background:#3f3f7f}
and tried<input class="text" type="text" name="q" size="44" title="Enter Terms" />withinput.text{background-color:#3f3f7f}
and neither worked in just trying to get the background color to blue, forgetting the text.
It looks like I'm going to have to leave it at<input class="text" type="text" name="q" size="44" title="Enter Terms" />withinput.text{color:#3f3f7f}
That's the most basic of CSS and it should work. Could you provide us with the full code with it not working? It's most likely just some silly error (probably validation) taht's causing it to not work :).
Ryan,Search Form/box:<form action="http .....searchrez.html" id="cse-search-box">
<input type="hidden" name="cx" value="009478971803505951972:l1rvmz2jjyy" /><input type="hidden" name="cof" value="FORID:9" /><input type="hidden" name="ie" value="UTF-8" /><input class="text" type="text" name="q" size="44" title="Enter Terms" /><input class="submit" type="submit" name="sa" value="Search" />
</form>
Here's the results Form/box

You know, I noticed that I don't have anything in my css for id="cse-search-box"
The JavaScript is pulling in a default Google style that is overriding your CSS:
<input type="text" title="Enter Terms" size="44" name="q" class="text" style="background: url("http://www.google.com/cse/intl/en/images/google_custom_search_watermark.gif") no-repeat scroll left center rgb(255, 255, 255);">
You could override it with this
input.text{background: #3f3f7f !important;color:#fff !important;}
but then there's not real point in using the JS in the first place.
Ralph,Any idea what cse-search-box is for?
It's a hook for the JavaScript code that the Google link pulls in. That little bit of JS pulls in a ton of stuff that searches the form for that id so it knows what to operate on.
(function() {
var f = document.getElementById('cse-search-box');
Being an educated guess, I'd guess all the results gets put into that element. Though I'd need to see the site online to have a better idea of what it's used for (my guess is based off the limited Javascript code provided) :).
The code provided is all that's needed. If you run it in your browser, it pulls in JS code from Google that places a Google logo image in the search box and colors the input white. !important overrides that, but basically kills the point of having the JS in the first place, too (as far as I can see).
Yeah but id="cse-search-box" is html asking for css and I have no css for the html. Are you saying the css is at google?
IDs are for JS as well as CSS, and the JS needs the id to know what element to look for. But yes, Google's code also adds some CSS in there as well. It's all pulled in from Google by the JS.
The Google CSS looks like this:
element.style {
background: url("http://www.google.com/cse/intl/en/images/google_custom_search_watermark.gif") no-repeat scroll left center #FFFFFF;
Thanks Ralph


text: All around the world, small farmers and rural communities lack access to proper health care. Without proper medical care communities cannot thrive. Fair Trade standards require that farm workers and their families have access to doctors, medicine, proper nutrition, vaccinations and health education. Fair Trade farming cooperatives make decisions about what healthcare their communities need most, and many have elected to invest Fair Trade premiums into lifesaving health facilities and programs.


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When a young male fan smuggled flares into the Soundwave music festival at Homebush on Sunday, then ignited them at two different stages, he had no idea his fellow fans wouldn't share his enthusiasm for DIY pyrotechnics.
Soundwave promoter AJ Maddah – not a man to be messed with in good times, just ask Joel Madden or Blink 182 drummer Travis Barker, both of whom publically felt Maddah's wrath of late – says the "moron" who set off the flares is about to handed over to Police.
"There were 75,000 people at what was a great show at it took one dickhead to ruin the day for everyone. Thanks to smartphones, we've had at least a dozen people send us photos of this moron's face and his name and details.
"But just to demonstrate his complete stupidity he's gone home and bragged about it on Facebook.
"We'll be passing all those details onto Police.
"Soundwave is such a strong community that people help each other out more than security or event staff can.
"Personally I think he should be arrested just for the sailor cap.''
Initial reports made by other media yesterday that a girl had been so badly burned by one of the flares that she had undergone emergency surgery appear to be incorrect. Fairfax contacted Concord Hospital , the nearest hospital with a burns unit. But the hospital had no record of such a patient. St Johns Ambulance did however tell Fairfax three people were treated for minor burns, who then returned to watch the festival.
Maddah's own Twitter feed was an early source of the reports: late on Sunday night he tweeted that a girl had been "disfigured" by a flare.
"I was really upset, I was losing my mind through tiredness and I was told those things burn at 180 degrees and that it touched anyone it would disfigure them. Thankfully I was wrong about it. We've heard that she's ok and had a few stitches."
Maddah says Soundwave security staff will receive training to identify and confiscate flares before the three further festivals to come, in Melbourne on Friday, Adelaide on Saturday and Perth on Monday.
''Security staff have been looking for knives or alcohol to this point so this adds a new dimension. The average security guard wouldn't have recognised a flare... we'll be adding this as another item in security briefings.''


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The system of the Mahdi (as) has currently been veiled by Allah so that Hazrat Mahdi (as) can work in peace. Hazrat Mahdi (as) is veiling himself and other scholars are also, knowingly or not, keeping him veiled.
All Sunni scholars, and most particularly Bediüzzaman Said Nursi, have stated that Hazrat Mahdi (as) would start work in Hijri 1400, in the 1980s in other words, that he will be an individual, that he will act together with his assistants and followers, and that after an intellectual struggle lasting 40 years, he will cause Islam to reign across the world. The coming of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) and Hazrat (as), who will bring about the reign of Islam, which is foretold in the Qur'an and in trustworthy hadiths, is "a matter of unanimous agreement among the entire Sunni ulema."
Nonetheless, however, the number of those who can currently see the presence of the system of the Mahdi (as) and its progress in the world is very small. And the number of those who can recognize Hazrat Mahdi (as) is smaller still. Only a very few blessed people can see and recognize Hazrat Mahdi (as) through the light of faith.
Some scholars directly serve the veiling of Hazrat Mahdi (as). Never before has there been such talk of Hazrat Mahdi (as) never coming. In particular, as of the 1980s some people who fervently espoused the idea of the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (as) until a certain time, began saying, in a state of great alarm, that he would not be coming. Anyone looking at Islamic books, magazine, cassettes and pamphlets published in 1978, 1979 and the 1980s will see that there was intensive talk of the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (as) in those days. After around 1986-87, however, there was a sudden U-turn on the subject, and a strong desire emerged to close down the subject of the system of the Mahdi (as) altogether. After that time there was a sudden rise in the number of publications and talk claiming that Hazrat Mahdi (as) would never appear.
And that despite the appearance of so many omens. Some people are now saying he will appear in 300 years' time an others that he was their sheikh and has already come and gone. Some say that he will be a corporate personality, and others a spirit. What they all have in common is the desire to conceal the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (as) through various interpretations and quibbles. Some even go so far as to say that "Raising or discussing the subject of the Mahdi (as) will be corruption." In short, there is a great panic and unease in the air.
However, a major inconsistency emerges here. If they do not believe in the presence, coming and future activities of Hazrat Mahdi (as), there should be no need for them to attach such importance to it. They could just say, "In any case there is no chance of his appearing," and leave it at that. But they do not; they keep trying to prove that "the Mahdi (as) will not be coming" on the television, on the radio, in newspapers and at every available opportunity. But if someone does not believe that something exists and will happen, they can be quite relaxed on the issue. Because nothing is going to come of it, the matter has already been resolved. But there is no such relaxation when it comes to Hazrat Mahdi (as); on the contrary, they are trying to work against Hazrat Mahdi (as) in a state of great panic, concern, alarm and agitation.
An important example of Allah's creation of marvels emerges here. Allah wants "the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (as), his identity, his activities and where he will be active" all to be veiled. Because our Prophet (as) describes how Hazrat Mahdi's activities will be spread over long years, and that the moral values of Islam will only come to reign gradually as a result of those activities. If, during the course of that process, the name, location, activities and area of work of Hazrat Mahdi (as) were all fully known, then he would of course be the target for all ill-intentioned people. The way would be open to traps, obstacles and attacks from all those who wished to harm him and put a stop to his activities. But since the global reign of Islam and the victory of the Mahdi (as) are promised by Allah, He has created a system that will halt everything that might obstruct him. The unwitting task of those who say, "The Mahdi (as) will not come" is to prepare the ground for this decision by Allah by screening the Mahdi (as) off.
"Willingly or Unwillingly, by Allah's Command the Whole World Is Serving the System of the Mahdi (as)"
Therefore, unbelievers, hypocrites and polytheists, those who adopt ideas hostile to the moral values of the Qur'an, and the enemies of Hazrat Mahdi (as) are still, much against their desires, by Allah's choosing still providing great support, conscious or otherwise, for Hazrat Mahdi (as) and the global spread of the moral values of Islam.
It is a miracle how no matter what those who say, "The Mahdi (as) will not come" may do they still cannot avoid serving Hazrat Mahdi (as). Every move made against Hazrat Mahdi (as) just further contributes to increasing the effect of this blessed individual still further. Everyone who say, "I do not believe in Hazrat Mahdi (as)" will still be serving this holy personage in everything they do.
However, it will also be useful to remember that people desired to prevent the coming of the Prophet Muhammed (saas) too, but that these efforts changed nothing. The polytheists of that time experienced a huge panic. But they could not stop the coming of our Prophet (saas). The coming of the Prophet Muhammed (saas) was created in destiny, and he spoke the words and completed his work appointed for him by Allah in destiny. In the same way, no other messenger or envoy has ever been stopped from coming.
Additionally, the opponents of Hazrat Mahdi (as) also have another task to unwittingly perform; they are bringing about one of the definitive signs of the coming of Hazrat Mahdi (as). Because talk of the Mahdi (as) not coming is one of the portents that his coming is indeed imminent:
"ALLAH WILL SEND HAZRAT MAHDI (as) WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN DESPAIR AND SAY, 'THERE IS NO SUCH PERSON AS THE MAHDI' (as)…" (Ali Bin Husameddin al-Muttaqi, Al-Burhan fi `Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir az-Zaman, p. 55)
"...HAZRAT MAHDI (as) WILL APPEAR WHEN HOPE OF HIS COMING HAS BEEN LOST, with the banner of Rasulullah, when affliction after affliction rain down on people..." (Ali Bin Husameddin el-Muttaki, Al-Burhan fi `Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir az-Zaman, p. 55)
What everyone must know is that all the portents of Hazrat Mahdi (as) revealed in the hadiths have come about most miraculously one after the other. The Prophet Jesus (as) and Hazrat Mahdi (as) will soon appear in such a way as to be visible to all mankind, insha'Allah.2013-02-20 21:27:50


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News Release
Bank Robbery
Department: Sheriff
Release Date: Aug 15, 2013
Larimer County Sheriff's Office
John Schulz, Public Information Officer
The Larimer County Sheriff's Office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation are investigating a bank robbery that occurred Thursday, August 15th at approximately 11:39 a.m. at Points West Community Bank located at 8100 South 6th Street in Wellington, Colorado.
The suspect was described as an approximately 40-year-old white male, about 6',1" tall with light brown hair, scruffy facial hair, no moustache, wearing a grey baseball cap and sunglasses and carrying a red backpack.
The suspect entered the bank and handed the teller a note demanding money. No weapons were seen. The suspect then left the bank with an unknown amount of cash and exited the area on foot. No one was injured.
At this point, it is too early to tell whether this robbery is associated with the previous Fort Collins and Denver area robberies.
Anyone with information regarding this case is asked to call Larimer County Sheriff's Office at 970-416-1985 or Crime Stoppers at 970-221-6868 or www.stopcriminals.org where you will remain anonymous and possibly be eligible for a cash reward.
No additional information will be available while the investigation is ongoing.


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Final public meeting held for Broadway Feasibility Study
EUREKA- Caltrans held an open house Thursday night to help inform residents about a study that examines possible improvements of a portion of Broadway in Eureka, the thoroughfare through the city.
The open house is designed to inform residents about six scenarios that would improve the safety, operational and mobility aspects of Broadway Street between K-Mart and the division of 4th and 5thStreets. The Broadway Feasibility Study will be finished this summer, and will then be used as a reference document for Caltrans to use to compete for state and federal funding sources. The meeting was held at the Wharfinger Building and started at 4:30 p.m. The meeting is also designed to give the public a chance to give their input on possible improvements, something Caltrans officials say is a crucial element of the process.
"We're all members of the community here, our workers as well as the people that are coming here tonight. And everybody has their own, special, unique needs and we're trying to meet those needs for all Californians, the people that live here in the community as well as the people that come and visit. We want to make sure it's safe and sustainable," said Charles Fielder, the District 1 Director for Caltrans.
If you didn't have the chance to attend Thursday night's meeting, you can still provide your input for possible improvements to Broadway. You can send your input by mail to:
California Dept. of Transportation, Attn: Kevin Tucker, 1656 Union Street, Eureka, Ca 95501
You can also email your input to firstname.lastname@example.com
Input must be submitted by March 15th.


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Short but lively interview that covers Global Warming and both Chernobyl and Three Mile Island. Also includes a short discussion of the IPCC preliminary report and Al Gore.
Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Adjusts Clock From 7 to 5 Minutes Before Midnight;
"Deteriorating" Global Situation Cited on Nuclear Weapons and New Factor: Climate Change.


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Softball Super Team 2011
Updated 12:00 am, Tuesday, June 21, 2011
Landre Nattinger
New Braunfels, senior
Three-year team captain batted .517 with six home runs, 26 RBIs and a 17-game hitting streak for Class 5A third-round team. ... Signed with Stephen F. Austin.
Brittany Gomez
New Braunfels Canyon, junior
Speedster set the table for Canyon's regional final run. ... Batted .500 with three triples, two inside-the-park home runs, 21 RBIs, 50 runs scored and 21 stolen bases. ... Committed to Iowa State.
Jorden Smith
Johnson, senior
Batted .481 with three home runs, 35 RBIs, 11 stolen bases and 36 runs scored for Class 5A third-round team. ... Signed with Iowa State. ... Super Team selection last year.
Vivian Tijerina
Southwest, senior
Batted .419 with four home runs, 23 RBIs, 14 doubles, three triples and 39 runs scored for team that reached the Class 5A regional semifinals. ... Signed with UTSA.
Katy Vandewater
O'Connor, senior
Batted .406 with six home runs, 38 RBIs, 11 doubles, two triples, 12 stolen bases and 41 runs scored for Class 5A state finalists. ... Signed with Weatherford College. ... Super Team selection last year.
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Lauren Ainsley
La Vernia, senior
Led the area with 322 strikeouts to go with a 20-4 record, 0.66 ERA and 12 shutouts for Class 3A third-round team. ... Finished her career with an 85-20 record, 0.50 ERA and 1,234 strikeouts. ... Also had 16 RBIs. ... Signed with Texas A&M.
Katrisha Arocha
Southwest, senior
Went 28-4 with a 0.92 ERA with 207 strikeouts to lead the Dragons to the Class 5A regional semifinals. ... Signed with Mississippi Valley State.
Sara Mireles
N.B. Canyon, senior
Capped off an incredible career by leading Cougarettes to regional final. ... Went 24-9 with a 1.47 ERA and 176 strikeouts in 197 innings pitched. ... Had a 0.96 ERA in seven playoff games. ... Three-time Super Team selection. ... Express-News Player of the Year last season. ... Signed with Texas A&M.
Geena Garcia
Johnson, senior
Led the area with 10 home runs to go with 41 RBIs, 35 runs scored and a .381 batting average for Class 5A third-round team. ... Hit a grand slam in the playoffs. ... Signed with UTSA.
Jade Smith
New Braunfels, junior
Batted .537 with 24 RBIs, 55 runs scored, eight doubles, four triples and 51 stolen bases for Class 5A third-round team. ... Committed to Illinois.
Taylor Vidrine
O'Connor, senior
Batted .492 with five home runs, 44 RBIs, 17 doubles, three triples, 46 runs scored and 10 stolen bases for Class 5A state finalists. ... Signed with St. Mary's.
Newcomer of the Year
Melanie Roe
Johnson, sophomore
Started every game in leading the Jaguars to the third round in her first varsity season. ... Went 25-8 with a 1.86 ERA and 139 strikeouts.


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Although not much English is spoken, the staff were very obliging. The room was big and airy, with full length window screens to keep out the bugs, so we could sleep with them open. Opposite the beach, lovely!! For a quiet getaway this hotel is excellent but without transport it would be hard to get around if you don't like walking. The village is about 3 km away. The only way to get there from the airport is by taxi.
I liked the location, swimming pool, freshness of food, and cleanliness. Felt food prices were too expensive and we went across the road a few metres down for meals, which were fresh, and not so expensive. Also the proprieter was friendly, smiley and couldnt please us enough. i found the proprieter at Evgatis not friendly at all. His waiting and cleaning staff though were wonderful.


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A West End star visited children in Malmesbury for a masterclass in theatre and performance.
Natasha Jayetileke, who played Nala and Sarabi during her two years performing in the hit musical Lion King, worked with youngsters between the ages of four and 10 as part of Shine on Stage Theatre School's series of events at The Activity Zone.
Mrs Jayetileke, who has performed in the West End in Joseph and the Technicolour Dreamcoat, took props and costumes from the show including a puppet head of the character Pumba and pieces of costume for the character Nala.
Alice Jackson, a classically trained actress who taught Natalie Portman and Scarlett Johansson to dance for The Other Boleyn Girl, said: "She showed them bits of costume and props from the show, which they loved and were enthralled by.
"The older group loved it too and had lots of questions about not only the story but also about the production and back stage.
"We want them to be inspired and to be thinking about the bigger picture; not just their performance but about how it all works and how a show is put together."
Youngsters were taught two songs from the show, I Just Can't Wait To Be King and He Lives In You.
One of the Stage School pupils, nine-year-old Benedict Garlick, said: "It was amazing. It was incredible to meet Simba's mum."
Mrs Jayetileke was invited to attend as she is a friend and fellow performer of Mrs Jackson's husband, Jeff Nicholson.
Shine on Stage launched five weeks ago and children aged 11 and over are invited to sign up.


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Welcome to our hotel!
Near the Connecticut River and Long Island Sound, this inn in Old Saybrook offers guestrooms with modern amenities as well as friendly services in a great location.
Liberty Inn Old Saybrook serves a free continental breakfast. After breakfast, guests can take advantage of the going to a nearby beach. The guestrooms at the Old Saybrook Liberty Inn boast comforts such as refrigerators, microwaves and coffeemakers. After a restful night's sleep, guests can spend the day shopping or exploring the surrounding area.