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DEXTER, Mich. - Parents from a Washtenaw County school received a letter from the principal informing them a threatening messages was posted on Twitter by a student at the school.
Dexter High School sent the letter to parents on Wednesday.
The letter said the school became aware on Tuesday night, that a student tweet contained inappropriate comments about the school and could be considered threatening.
Principal William Moran wrote, "Your child's safety is our greatest priority. At no time have we felt that Dexter High School students were in danger of any harm."
The letter asked parents to talk to their children regarding the consequences of posting harmful messages on social media sites.
Moran said the school is working with authorities and an investigation is ongoing.
The school declined to release the name of the student involved.
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>Off the Beaten Path>Sneakers or Running Shoes
OK, we all have a PET PEEVE or two,
But I'm curious if it drives you crazy when people refer to Running Shoes as "Sneakers".............Probably the people doing that are the same ones that run 3.1 mile Marathons or are non-runners, so I should probably have a little understanding....
I know I'm a 'tad weird on this subject but when someone refers to my running shoes as 'sneakers' it pisses me off. Sneakers to me are like those Converse shoes the kids wear or the old PF Flyers we had (way back when), but top quality NIKEs, NB, NEWTONs, BROOKS or any of the others decent running shoes should "NOT" be called Sneakers....
I was hoping at least a few of you understand my feeling on this matter
A couple of days ago I had someone tell me I shouldn't run in my nice new sneakers because I would get them dirty.....YEAH RIGHT....
Champions are made when no one is watching
old woman w/hobby
Just as long as they don't call them tennies
"Just stop fucking drinking too much and being fat. Pretty simple. Who the hell cares if you like beer.
We can't always do the things we like all the time." --Candice
Runners run.
Proboscis Colossus
Eh, I chuckle a little bit inwardly when I hear it, but I don't experience actual anger.
However, an equally irrational pet peeve I do have is when people refer to marathons as "marys." Still no actual anger, but it just grates on me (see also: vacays, besties...I guess I just wish people would take time out of their day to complete the dang word!).
"God guides us on our journey, but careful with those feet." - David Lee Roth, of all people
Prince of Fatness
I'm curious if it drives you crazy when people refer to Running Shoes as "Sneakers"
There are trivial things that I let get to me but no, this is not one of them.
In most cases when the little things get to me it is usually because something more significant is bothering me. In times like these I find it therapeutic to put my sneaks on and go for a jog.
Hope that helps.
When I hear someone use the term 'sneakers' instead of the state-approved term 'running shoes' I think my annoyance meter needle moves slightly, but it's hard to tell if it's because of the word or the fact I have to actually interact with a non-runner.
In times like these I find it therapeutic to put my sneaks on and go for a jog.
In times like these I find it therapeutic to put my sneaks on and go for a jog.
JOG doesn't bother me - in fact most of my runs are probably classified by 'real runners' as JOGs to begin with.....
I'm curious if it drives you crazy when people refer to Running Shoes as "Sneakers".............
I don't get exercised about it.
Well at least someone here is making relevance to the subject. - S.J.
Fight The Future
According to Wikipedia, "Sneakers" is a synonym for "athletic shoes" ... "can also refer to athletic footwear like basketball shoes, tennis shoes, cross trainers and other shoes worn for specific sports", so i regret to say that you are wrong.
However, I frequently refer to them as "tackies", even though I'm not from South Africa
Live the Adventure. Enjoy the Journey. Be Kind. Have Faith!
I see it as a Venn diagram sort of thing. There is significant overlap between the categories of sneakers and running shoes. My Nimbus' are both, but Vibrams only fit the running category and Converse All stars only the sneaker category.
Would it be better or worse if I referred to them as running sneakers?
I think I embarrassed my teenage daughter the other night when I asked, in front of her friend, "Have you seen my thongs?"
Very good! I'll have to remember that one.
But I'm curious if it drives you crazy when people refer to Running Shoes as "Sneakers"
Right there with you.
It's like calling a fishing rod a "fishing pole", as an example from another activity.
My niece's entire graduating class was told not to show up wearing just thongs under their commencement robes. That created a stir.

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My First post for the Bob's Red Mill Train with Grain blog is about recipes inspired by my race clothing. Clean lines, simple design and euro-inspired white are reasons that golden vanilla cupcakes are a classic go-to every time.
This season I worked closely with Portland graphic designer Dan Schechter and the folks at Castelli clothing to create a unique version of the Bob's Red Mill Team kit.
Inspired in part by the 2010 kit and the 2011 Louisville Team kit, we came up with a mostly white kit highlighting my title, presenting and supporting sponsors.
The color scheme of white, light blue and ocre yellow uses a classic European cycling color scheme and in turn invokes the likeness of the finest of European culinary delights, pastries!
At home, my go-to recipe for a timeless and classic recipe is the vegan version of the golden vanilla cupcake. This recipe can also be used as a layer or sheet cake and served in a big slice midday with a cappuccino, as it would be around Europe. Enjoy!
Vegan Vanilla Cupcakes
- 1 cup Soy, Rice, Almond or Coconut milk
- 1 tsp apple Cider Vinegar
- 1-1/4 cup All Purpose Flour (or gluten free all purpose flour plus 1 tsp xanthan gum)
- 2 Tbsp Cornstarch or Arrowroot Starch
- 3/4 tsp Baking Powder
- 1/2 tsp Baking Soda
- 1/4 tsp Salt
- 1/3 cup Canola Oil
- 3/4 cup Granulated Sugar
- 2 1/4 tsp Vanilla
Mix milk and vinegar and allow to sit for a few minutes (this curdles to work like buttermilk)
Mix sugar, oil, vanilla and stir well. Add remaining ingredients, mix well and then fill cupcake liners about 3/4 way full.
Bake 20-22 min at 350 degrees
- 1/2 cup Non-Hydrogentated Shortening
- 1/2 cup Non-Hydrogenated Margarine
- 3-1/2 cups Confectioner's Sugar
- 1-1/2 tsp Vanilla
- 1/4 cup plain Soy milk, Rice milk or Coconut milk
Beat shortening and margarine with hand mixer until fluffy. 5 mins or so.
Add sugar and mix well 3-5 minutes until well blended.
Add vanilla and milk and beat until fluffy 5-7 minutes
*recipe adapted from Vegan Cupcakes Take over the World by Isa Chandra Moskowitz
This recipe is also posted to my blog at : http://thevegandelicious.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/vegan-golden-vanilla-cupcakes/


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With ISO's Sept. 2 voting deadline looming, the recently retired secretary general of ECMA International defended Microsoft's Office Open XML document format against fierce technical criticism.
"Give me any standard, and I bet you I can find an error," said Jan Van Den Beld, who retired in April after 16 years running Geneva-based ECMA, in a telephone interview on Monday with Computerworld.
ECMA is shepherding Open XML, the default format used by Office 2007 documents, through ISO's traditionally difficult approval process.
The international standards group has set a Sept. 2 deadline for the 20 nations that are members of the ISO Joint Technical Committee 1 (JTC-1) to vote on whether to approve Open XML.
Van Den Beld, who oversaw ECMA's approval of 229 technical standards, many of which were later approved by ISO, also predicts that Open XML will be approved next spring after a follow-up ISO meeting.
"Ultimately, I think it will get through," he said.
Friends and foes line up
That's no sure thing, however. The document format faces strong opposition from grassroots advocates who want to see free productivity software such as that of OpenOffice.org gain a foothold, as well as from vendors such as IBM.
Opponents argue that Open XML is redundant in light of the technically similar Open Document Format for Office Applications (known as ODF) which is native to OpenOffice.org and was approved as a standard more than a year ago by ISO.
They also argue the Open XML proposal is too long (6,500-plus pages) to evaluate during this abbreviated fast-track process, that it's riddled with inconsistencies and technical errors, and that it covertly continues to effectively grant Microsoft control of the standard.
So far, organizations representing Brazil and China (original news report in Mandarin, with translation available) have said publicly that they plan to vote against Open XML. India is close to finalizing the same position.
On the other side, Germany, the United States, and according to Van Den Beld, Switzerland are all moving to vote in favor of Open XML.
Dueling standards wouldn't be a first
A Netherlands native who served as an executive with Philips Electronics before joining ECMA in the mid-1980s, Van Den Beld said that if Open XML is approved, it would not be the first time that two technically similar formats have become standards.
As an example, he pointed to the multiple DVD recording formats -- including DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-RAM, and DVD+RW -- that were all approved first by ECMA and then ISO.
"People believe a standards body has complete control over this. That is completely exaggerated," Van Den Beld said. "You cannot take a position such as 'Sony, I like you better than Toshiba.' As soon as you do that, you are no longer neutral."
Multiple, similar standards, while "not a good result, are, because of patent wars, often an inevitable result," he said.
Merging Open XML and ODF is also not the solution, Van Den Beld said.
"The structure of Open XML is so different from ODF, I don't see how we can bring them together into one standard," he said.
Regarding objections to the Open XML application because of its length, Van Den Beld said that when Sun Microsystems submitted the Java programming language to ECMA in 1999, the application -- which was eventually withdrawn -- was more than 8,000 pages long.
While acknowledging that an Open XML standard may not arm Microsoft rivals and partners with all of the information to successfully build ancillary or even competing products, Van Den Beld says that is not the point.
"A standard is not a product description. It tells you what to do, not how to do it," he said.
ECMA and the standards ecosystem
Created in 1961, ECMA International, which was known as the European Computer Manufacturers Association until 1994, was the first to certify hundreds of technical standards, including the aforementioned DVD formats as well as standards for local-area networks.
He called ECMA's relationship with the more prestigious ISO a "perfect symbiosis," with ECMA helping ISO filter out unworthy standards applications and quickly ratifying the ones that were most urgently needed.
"ISO is necessarily rather cumbersome because, let's face it, there are many, many players worldwide," he said. "At ECMA, our philosophy is, 'Let's write down all of the technical details of the darn thing and then give it to ISO.'"
Far from being rivals, ECMA "is very good friends" with other lesser standards bodies such as OASIS, which gave ODF its first approval, and World-Wide Web Consortium, Van Den Beld claimed. Informal talks about the possibility of merging the groups have even occurred, he said.
As for accusations that ECMA -- and he -- are too cozy with Microsoft, Van Den Beld said he has never consulted with or worked at Microsoft. And he pointed out that ECMA has occasionally antagonized Microsoft -- most famously in 1996, when it led the successful charge to force Microsoft to make the application programming interface to Windows 3.1 a public standard.
ECMA has already agreed to help ISO address the official "comments," or objections, to Open XML, Van Den Beld said. He acknowledged that while there are many objections, he believes, based on past experience, that if all parties "work like mad in the next four months," a sufficiently refined Open XML specification can be created by ISO's ballot resolution meeting in February, during which JTC-1 members can change the votes they cast in September. A final result would likely be known within one or two months after that, he said.
This story, "Ex-ECMA chief expects Open XML approval by March" was originally published by Computerworld.


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Although historically the tailor is the cutter, in the trade the 'tailor' is the man who sews or makes up what the 'cutter' has shaped. [OED]The post-Latin sense development would be "piece of a plant cut for grafting," hence a verb, "cut a shoot," then, generally, "to cut." Possible cognates include Sanskrit talah "wine palm," Old Lithuanian talokas "a young girl," Greek talis "a marriageable girl" (for sense, compare slip of a girl, twiggy), Etruscan Tholna, name of the goddess of youth.
Kent. ... You cowardly rascal, nature disclaims in thee; a tailor made thee.One who makes outer garments to order, as opposed to a clothier, who makes them for sale ready-made. Tailor-made first recorded 1832 (in a figurative sense); literal sense was "heavy and plain, with attention to exact fit and with little ornamentation," as of women's garments made by a tailor rather than a dress-maker.
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An ancient denomination of weight, originally Babylonian (though the name is Greek), and varying widely in value among different peoples and at different times. [Century Dictionary]According to Liddell & Scott, as a monetary sum, considered to consist of 6,000 drachmae, or, in Attica, 57.75 lbs. of silver. Also borrowed in other Germanic languages and Celtic. Attested in Old English as talente). The Medieval Latin and common Romanic sense developed from figurative use of the word in the sense of "money." Meaning "special natural ability, aptitude, gift committed to one for use and improvement" developed by mid-15c., in part perhaps from figurative sense "wealth," but mostly from the parable of the talents in Matthew xxv.14-30. Meaning "persons of ability collectively" is from 1856.


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Okay, I officially am loving the secret shame thing on Sundays, and so I am adding it as a regular feature. This week's secret shame came to me as I was thinking about fashion mistakes of the past. We all have some buried photos of us wearing shit, that we should have known was wrong at the time. We look back and say to ourselves dear lord what was I thinking. I don't have a picture of them to show you, but trust me when I swear to it that I once owned and proudly wore fire engine red…..
That is right, like a fool I walked proudly down the street in a pair of rayon MC Hammer pants similar to the ones in this video thinking I was the shit. I even had a dumb ass walk that I would do every time I put them on. If that isn't some kind of fashion nightmare for the ages, I don't know what is. Okay your turn, what fashion trend did you give into that you now regret?


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Vence Tourisme Application contains all useful information for a stay in Vence and around
Lenovo Vibe Z smartphone was launched in November 2013. The phone comes with a 5.50-inch touchscreen display with a resolution of 1080 pixels by 1920 pixels at a PPI of 401 pixels per inch.
The Lenovo Vibe Z is powered by 2.2GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor and it comes with 2GB of RAM. The phone packs 16GB of internal storage cannot be expanded. As far as the cameras are concerned, the Lenovo Vibe Z packs a 13-megapixel primary camera on the rear and a 5-megapixel front shooter for selfies.
The Lenovo Vibe Z runs Android 4.3 and is powered by a 3000mAh non removable battery. It measures 149.10 x 77.00 x 7.90 (height x width x thickness) and weigh 145.20 grams.
The Lenovo Vibe Z is a single SIM (GSM) smartphone that accepts a Micro-SIM. Connectivity options include Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth, FM, 3G and 4G. Sensors on the phone include Compass Magnetometer, Proximity sensor, Accelerometer and Ambient light sensor.
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iPhone 3GS Performance: A Significant Performance Bumpby Anand Lal Shimpi on 6/19/2009 12:00 AM EST
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mack123 - Saturday, July 18, 2009 - linkhttp://www.puremobile.com/apple-iphone-3gs-unlocke...">http://www.puremobile.com/apple-iphone-3gs-unlocke... what is the difference between 3G and the 3GS? nad am i able to yous this phone with my GSM service provider(AT&T)? Reply
DeepBlue1975 - Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - linkTo see performance figures on the HTC pro 2 as soon as you can get one.
I'll be skipping the Nokia n97 because its keyboard is bashed in many reviews, and because I'm a bit tired of symbian and like WM better...
And I'll obviously skip the iphone 3gs because it has no keyboard whatsoever!! does it have copy&paste functionality built in already, or do you still need to get an add on for that in this one, too? Reply
MrBowmore - Friday, June 26, 2009 - linkYou have seriously screwed up when it comes to the G1. Your times makes it feel that you have been payed alot to get theese figures, something tells me, you just had a bad build, or something.
Try the new my touch(magic for Europe, same hardware as G1), with the 1.5 "cupcake" it's almost as fast as the 3gs according to your figures. Have you tried different access points? Reply
crispbp04 - Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - linkMy touch HD takes a dump on all these phones. Reply
aredee - Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - linkDear Anand,
I am holding a 3GS and a 3G (upgraded to iphone os 3.0), however to me, the 3GS does not seem to have such a huge difference in loading times as you have documented in this article.
Loading the anandtech.com page only took 11.2 seconds on my 3G. Have you cleared out the cache/history/cookies before running your test?
natenrb9 - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkIf you throw out the slashdot.org (statistical outlier) the advantage of the 3gs over the pre is only 11%.
Really this set of data is not a very conclusive test, the pre was actually faster loading 3 of the 9 websites. You really need to compare quite a few more sites to get viably accurate performance % advantage. Reply
katrinak - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkbefore going for a e72, u might want to have a look here..
http://makemylogic.com/2009/06/18/nokia-e72-vs-e71...">http://makemylogic.com/2009/06/18/nokia-e72-vs-e71... Reply
vwongd20 - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkI own a g1... and the time I got are way different from your tests
Do the g1 or pre have any programs running in the background?
I understand that the iphone does not handle multitasking... In other words, once you close the yahoo app, it logs you off... which is rather pointless to use im at all imho
Ehsan - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkHi Anand,
I am sorry to ask but am bit curious did you use non formated sites for facebook & Slashdot because of too much discrepency of my Iphone 3GS and your numbers of it.
Also I was wondering if you can do a app launching test on Iphone 3GS with a 3rd party app as most of the native apps run services in background (I found this by installing backgrounder app from Cydia after jailbreak on 3G and found that many native apps were running in background already). So its not launching from standstill if its half running.
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MultiCarrierUser - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkwow, you're telling me that majority of the " native apps" are already running? that's why it appears to pull up different apps quickly, already running a certain percentage per app (native). I think that is a good question as well. Reply
SydneyBlue120d - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkI' d really like to see how these devices compare to the Samsung Omnia HD (the most advanced Symbian phone to date) and the soon to be released Samsung i7500 (sporting a platform similaro to the HTC Magic) running Android 1.5 OS. Reply
MultiCarrierUser - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkYou're going to sit there and tell me that wi-fi is a true test? Because ATT & Sprint cannot connect at the same time? Hmm? Alright, example: Dallas TX, both ATT and Sprint have superb coverage there. You can run iphone 3gs and palm pre data at the same time..why cant you test then? I agree, reset both devices and search from scratch, pull up sites, big sites-cnn.com you know what i mean. I stand corrected about the robust amount of apps..though i do know that pre has an app emulator that allows you to run old programs from prev palm devices and even allows 2way cable synching. Yes I ran 20 apps, the last 4 apps did take awhile to come up, but finally did. As far as I can see, the iphone will not allow multiple major apps to be ran at the same time. So how do you call that a true multi-tasking device. I still believe all the apps are a simple solution for the slow att data network. I repeat again, i stand corrected about the many apps that i posted. i have no problem with being corrected, i appreciate everyone checking me on that! i am not bias on my feedback, i do know that that the pre will not allow you to forward sms text, yet, sw update coming soon to fix that issue. the software update that came 1.0.3 did come quick, yet did fix major issues because of the overwhelming feedback given to palm on the pre's release date. those guys work quick. Question, can you watch tv on the new iphone? Still wont allow you to remove the battery if it fails to boot up? Reply
solipsism - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkHow many times must you be told? The coverage of the city does not mean the tests will be equal. Users on the tower, the distance from the tower, the throughput of that particular tower, etc. all affect the latency, upload and download speeds for various file sizes. This will change throughout the day and where you move to in relation to the tower and what towers you are on. That is why using the SAME WiFi connection connected to the SAME internet connection the SAME distance from the router is the more fair test for judging the page rendering speed of each device. Reply
MultiCarrierUser - Saturday, June 27, 2009 - linkWhich will be used more by users? Their on personal carrier or wi-fi? so forget the controlled wi-fi test and get with the real world test! So don't act like you know, just straight up know! Reply
PoundSand - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkNice comparison overall, but your web browsing benchmark is a little whack- some sites (slashdot for example) return a iphone optimized site based on the user agent - i.e. you're essentially testing loading two different sites.
Lifedelinquent - Sunday, June 21, 2009 - linkThe link says 700,000 apps downloaded, not 700,000 apps to download. Reply
MultiCarrierUser - Sunday, June 21, 2009 - linkThe software update for webOS 1.0.3 is less than 36 hours old. But that upgrade fixes a lot: Echange Certificate SSL, Battery Optimization, speed...oh did you know the pre now has approximate 700,000 apps now!! Don't believe me, check out this site: http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/20/close-to-700-00...">http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/20/clos...-000-pal... sooooo looks like the pre is going to be just fine. has anyone tested the iphone 3gs vs palm pre using their carriers own data network, not this convoluted wi-fi..also how do we know that the sites have not been viewed before..if the cookies have not been deleted then its going to recall the site faster than if cookies were cleared before the test...so no true details were given, they just hooked up to wi-fi and off you go. Come do you really think you'll be using wi-fi every place you go? No, you'll use ATT's slow data speed. Oh is that why the iphone has sooo many apps? app this, app that, app for everything, why because it would take too long getting there on att data network. why am i talking like this, i have the iphone and pre, lol att unlimited plan is too expensive: $99 unlimited talk + $30 unlimited data + $20 unlimited text total $149.99, Sprint: Unlimited talk, data, text, navigation, live tv, and more for total $99.99, a $50 less plan and gives you more and a sweet pre plus the data power to multi-task, oh on the iphone how many apps can you run at once? I ran 20 apps on the pre before it began to bog down..few that i ran: pandora, facebook, cnn, google, sprint tv, live search, youtube...Linux OS is the truth!!!! Reply
solipsism - Sunday, June 21, 2009 - link1) A Linux OS may be the truth to you, but your comments on this site are from the truth.
2) As previously stated, but reiterated because I find it impossible that you just simply made a mistake, but there are not 700k apps for the Pre, compared to the iPhone's 50k. They don't even a public SDK available. If you are going to lie at least try to be clever about it.
3) The x.x.3 update for the Pre should be an indication that the update is relatively minor. There are no major changes that have been discovered. The OS is not using the HW better and the battery is still where it was before.
4) The reason WiFi is being used is because both devices can connect to the same network at the same time in the same place. Sprint nor AT&T is dominate or faulty in all areas, which is why the Pre lost out to Anand's testing of the iPhone 3G (not 3GS) and the Pre at the link below.
• http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=35...">http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=35...
5) Sprint's unlimited everything is cheaper than AT&T's unlimited everything, as Anand states, but that is how things work between a faltering company trying to keep users from leaving and a company that is having activation issues from having too many users activate new phones at once. If Sprint were a dominate carrier with wider coverage and good phones they surely wouldn't have to make such discounts… which don't seem to be working anyway. On top that, most people don't need all that, and the $69 is the same between devices, expect for the SMS, but adults tend not to care about that, especially when they have email.
6) You may have ran 20 apps at once but the bogging started right away as each new app will take an allotment of RAM and CPU cycles as needed. What you may have meant is that you could open up 20 apps before the system told you couldn't open up any more, but I have doubts that you got that many open at once.
7) The current iPhone now has plenty or RAM free to allow for background apps, and I'm sure Apple will be releasing the option to iPhone 3GS or newer iPhones and Touches in the future, once the logistics and coding are worked out. Running multiple webpages in the background using the Apple-funded WebKit is not exactly the same as running a C-based app with rich frameworks.
8) If you think the Pre is so fast and you apparently have both devices then test the Pre's app opening with the iPhone's from a cold start. Restore from factory is you must. If you don't want to, no bother, as there will others testing them shortly, but if you do it at least you'll see that Anand and the rest of the internet isn't lying to you.
PS: Sent from my iPhone. Good luck with your Pre Reply
Ehsan - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkOn number 2, OP made a mistake. He meant to say 700k times downloaded. He missed a word downloaded which you should have caught the mistake if you clicked on link.
On number 3, battery life is much better after upgrade and if you read Anand "Palm Pre" review you would know that it almost matched Iphone 3G battery life. Even Apple speech about 'native multitasking is waste of battery life' sound too hollow at this point.
On number 4, Update itself is not important given your theory that its not major update (major update is coming in August that include video recording & more features) but timing is important. With so less people on payroll compared to Apple they are doing phenomenal job.
On number 5, Adult do care about messaging. Its faster and easy. Not everyone is a geek like us who got Imap or exchange. Also price is important when it goes up to be more than $1000 after 2 year contract. And did I mention free roaming with Verizon when Sprint network not available? Also it matters when one provider gives turn by turn navigation along with google map for free while other one announces 3rd party accessory for now and will bomb us with price of tomtom app later. There are other things that matters but I will just leave that alone for now.
On number 6, Even if Pre runs 6 to 8 apps (my normal use), its better than Iphone. In my experience mutliple apps didnt slowdown the OS or UI.
On number 7, I used backgrounder app from Cydia and concur with you that due to C-based apps & rich framework it simply is not easy to do multitasking on Iphone, even on 3GS. Its just the way it is.
On number 8, I respect Anand testing for years and other people who tested both devices but I have my questions about the review and method. Like other poster asked, I want to know if Anand used formatted facebook and slashdot sites for the review? Also Iphone runs few services at boot time which include email, browser etc so comparing app opening on Iphone with on Pre is not fair in my opinion. But I do say even with recent updates Pre needs lot of tuning.
I am keeping my iphone though as Pre is not a device for gaming and is far away from getting good collection of apps that I must have before converting. But I am spoiled just as I was with 1st gen Iphone. Even with its shortcomings at start I am keeping Pre.
MultiCarrierUser - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkDo you think it would be a fair test using sprint's data network vs att? Given the fact that they both claim best and most coverage nation-wide (foot print) I say choose a major city that show's both att and sprint best coverage: San Fran, Dallas, Miami? I agree major update coming in Aug. Will the iphone 3gs be able to run tv? why do you think apple choose to not give iphone a non-removable battery, is it a money game that cost the customer's in the end and how do you go about replacing your battery if its bad and is there phone protection plan? Reply
MultiCarrierUser - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - link[EDIT: No shouting in CAPS, thank you!]
Alright, you seriously compared the devices Wi-Fi speed, that is too funny. Wi-Fi do not cover ground like both sprint and AT&T both gloat about. I say for all you iPhone lovers, test iPhone 3GS (16GB/32GB) vs. palm pre' using their own carriers data speeds, see who wins? I say this because you'll more than likely 85% of the time use your own carriers data network instead of Wi-Fi unless you're on college campus, airport, gov't building, something major, how about outside your home, walking in the park, at the beach, bus station, outside your child's school while waiting to pick them up, how about outside the movie theatre's trying to check that movie time again....using Wi-Fi is not the way to go, but if you really want to, head up to Baltimore and use sprint's, that right sprint's 4g called WiMAX....post your true results, everyone look for someone with an iPhone 3gs, and vice versa all iPhone 3gs look for someone with a palm pre', toss out the Wi-Fi and go head to head using your carriers data speeds head to head, I dare you at&t! Reply
The0ne - Sunday, June 21, 2009 - linkYou need to learn how to type or not comment at all. Reply
MultiCarrierUser - Monday, June 22, 2009 - linkToo funny, you're commenting on my typing? Come on now, let's get real. I did not know that my typing skills were being analyzed. Let me now apologize to all perfect commentators on this and all other sites, lol....But I really didn't think my all caps would be taken as shouting, perception I love and hate it. Reply
araczynski - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkstill crappy resolution? i'll wait for their 10th revision of the thing before biting. Reply
Charbax - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkArchos released the first ARM Cortex A8 based product in the Archos 5, Archos 7 and the Archos 5G about 10 months ago. Still I am sure Archos has a faster web browwser, even considering that the Archos HSDPA or WiFi browser has 3x more pixels at 800x480 on a still very pocketable 2x larger screen at 4.8" in diameter. Archos is releasing the next generation in September, running Android, even thinner, with up to 500GB, and even better optimized. Reply
anandtech02148 - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkI have tmobile data plan and att data plan. I don't why people are so upset with aTT, but their data Plan is cheap and peforms it's worth and i mean data plan only not the stiff contract from iphone. Tmobile is just horrid and Verizon is just pure evil someone should knock them off their high horse. Sprint is promising base on this review.
ChodaBoyUSA - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkFor the Pre, did you use webOS 1.0.3? Reply
jonyah - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkThe Pre's processor is rated at 600mhz, but it's locked to 500mhz. After obtaining root access you can up it to 600 as well as turn on scaling to save battery life. This battle is far from over. Reply
PhysicsPhil - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkTake this simple example as proof:
Say you have two racecars.
Car_A and Car_B are moving at constant speeds.
Car_A is traveling at 100 mph
Car_B is traveling at 154 mph
Car_B is moving 54% faster
(i.e. 54% more distance is covered by Car_B than Car_A over the same time interval).
For both cars to travel 100 miles, there times would be as such:
Time_A = 100 miles / 100 mph = 1 hr;
Time_B = 100 miles / 154 = 0.649 hr;
Therefore Car_B takes 35.1% less time than Car_A to cover the same distance because it is 54% faster.
The "54%" in the article is the REDUCTION IN TIME... BTW if rounded properly it's actually 55%.
(108.3 sec / 240 sec) = 0.45125
so according to this the same result is achieved on the iPhone 3Gs in about 45% of the time, meaning:
100% time / 45% time = 220% of the original 100%
which is 120% faster...
PrinceGaz - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkIf you have an iTouch 2G to hand, could you possibly compare website loading speeds on it with the iPhone 3G (using WiFi of course). The reason is because the iTouch 2G clocks its ARM11 at 533MHz instead of 412MHz - a 29% clockspeed increase. It would be interesting to see how much difference that 29% translates to in real-world performance. Reply
ltcommanderdata - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkAnand, I hope you'll look further into what specific SGX model is in the iPhone 3G S. Seeing the processor and RAM is identical between the new iPhone and the Palm Pre, it'll be interesting if the Pre has the GPU advantage with the SGX530 if Apple did use the SGX520.
As well, could you also do your speed tests between the iPhone OS 2.2.1 and iPhone OS 3.0 using the original iPhone 3G? It'd be interesting to see what type of speed-ups have been accomplished in software. As well, it'd be very interesting to see if there have been fps speed-ups just from iPhone OS 3.0 with the old MBX as John Cormack thinks a 2 times improvement could be possible if Apple would spend more effort on optimizing the OpenGL stack. Reply
nowayout - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkit's funny that I got the same times with my iphone 3g too.
Camera launch time was exactly 4.6 secs. It's even funnier that I did the tests with the old 2.2.1 firmware.
With 0s 3.0 these are the results
Application Launch Time in Seconds
WB Dialer GM Camera Email
Apple iPhone 3GS 0.7 s 0.7 s 2.7 s 2.8 s 0.8 s
my result with os 3.0:
Apple iPhone 3G 0.7 s 1.1 s 2.2 s 2.6 s 0.7 s
Yeah I know it is funny :)
Try it yourself. Reply
nowayout - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkI must also add that I did tests with iphone 3g os 2.2.1 with and without JB (themes and all)
And the phone was approximately about %60 slower when jail broken. Mobile substrate just halts your phone to a crawl. Reply
nowayout - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkyou should also time more intensitive apps, that's where the new iphone 3gs will shine.
Apps like web or dialer are damn too fast to even measure, they have none load time, you just wait for the opening animation to finish and the app is ready.
Apps like settings, clock and calendar discriminating. Also I've seen game load times and 3gs is definetaly faster.
My times for those with iphone 3g os 3.0 are
settings : 1.9 s
clock : 1.9 s
calendar: 2.6 s Reply
altarity - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkI might be wrong, but you didn't specifically mention the OS on the 3G. The only reason I mention this, is I've seen a noticable increase in page render speed on my Iphone original after going to 3.0. Reply
ImSpartacus - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkI like how AT used its competitors' websites for testing; they sure are confident.
However, great review, as always. Reply
icrf - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkMaybe they know their clientel aren't exclusive and probably visit half the sites on the list, so it's a good set of test cases readers might actually visit on their phones. Reply
aguilpa1 - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkIt would likely rival the 3G s in speed since the current 3G is under clocked and has quite a bit of headroom. Reply
mesiah - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkas anand stated, the increase in speed is only due in part to the increased clock. The cortex a8 is an entirely new processor that can handle two instructions per cycle instead of the single that the arm 11 did. Even if the old iphone were OC'd to 600mhz the 3g s with its more robust cortex a8 would easily outpace it. Reply
solipsism - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkDear Anand,
I assume that the browser and app tests here and on the Palm Pre review for the iPhone 3G are for the older OS. If so, would you mind listing both so we can see any performance changes between OS and WebKit/SquirrelFish optimizations?
Thank you for your time. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkThe Safari numbers are from OS 3.0 but the app launch times were from the older OS, I just reran both to confirm and I've updated the app launch times.
Take care,
Anand Reply
nowayout - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkHello,
My camera launch time with iphone 3g os 3.0 is 2.6 secs. It might be something with the phone and how full the photos folder is or how many apps you have I dont know. Can anybody confirm and do a test with this?
I launched the camera app 5 times and took the average, all times were consistent and were about 2.6 secs. Reply
nowayout - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkOK, I think I've found the culprit. After the phone was locked for a long time (about 10 min), I've unlocked the phone and went directly to the camera app, the first run took 4.0 secs. Consecutive runs all ended up around 2.6 secs. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkI used the same restore image on both iPhones and attempted to launch from a clean restart so nothing was cached. I did notice variation between some runs, I'm guessing background tasks are clouding results. In the final review I will have much more strenuous launch tests that should eliminate these sorts of issues, I just wanted to get a general idea out there quickly of how fast this thing is.
Take care,
Anand Reply
solipsism - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkThank you for the speed update and kindly response. Reply
tomtastic42 - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkGreat look at the speed! As always AnandTech delivers the info I want. Reply
ERJ - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkMaybe I am a bit daft but I don't see how it is 54% faster...on all the tests but one the new iPhone loads the pages in less then 1/2 time so wouldn't that make it over 100% faster? Reply
paragonjr - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkAbsolutely correct!
In terms of cumulative time rendering Web pages tested:
Reduction in time to 1/2 from any reference point means that speed has increased by a factor of 2 (inverse of time). Increasing speed 100 percent from any reference point is another way of stating that speed has doubled (i.e. increased by a factor of 2).
With reference point set at 100:
1 x 100 = 100. Percent change = 0 %
2 x 100 = 100 + 100 = 200. Percent change = 100 %
3 x 100 = 100 + 100 + 100 = 300. Percent change = 200 %
* iPhone 3GS vs iPhone 3G
Percent time ratio = 108.3 s / 240 s = 0.45125 = 45.1 %
Percent speed change = inverse of 0.45125 = 2.216 = 121.6 % (faster)
* iPhone 3GS vs Palm Pre
Percent time ratio = 108.3 s / 130.6 s = 0.82925 = 82.9 %
Percent speed change = inverse of 0.82925 = 1.206 = 20.6 % (faster)
* iPhone 3GS vs T-Mobile G1
Percent time ratio = 108.3 s / 263.6 s = 0.41085 = 41.1 %
Percent speed change = inverse of 0.41085 = 2.434 = 143.4 % (faster)
Edias - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkAnand,
You need to correct the performance numbers!
For the title and table 1:
iPhone 3GS Performance: 121.6% Faster than the 3G, 20.6% Faster than the Pre;
For table 2:
iPhone 3GS vs. 3G Performance Advantage: 14%; 71%; 22%; 39%; 50%.
It's only mathematics!
Anand Lal Shimpi - Sunday, June 21, 2009 - linkThank you so much guys not only for the correction but for the manner in which you presented it. I've updated the tables in the article.
I agree that "faster" is far too ambiguous of a word. I was thinking "in less time" but that's not the appropriate word to represent such a thing. Thanks again and I apologize for the error.
Take care,
Anand Reply
DerekWilson - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkthe advantage of the 3gs over the 3g is ~50% (things take half as long)
the disadvantage of the 3g compared to the 3gs is ~100% (things take twice as long)
it is quite easy to manipulate statistics and we always try to frame things in the most real world, useful and non-misleading way possible.
statistics are a tool, not an end in themselves ... whenever someone tries to sell you on statistics without the empirical data you should be seriously skeptical. Reply
DeepBlue1975 - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkYou are comparing speeds.
If it was about a 1000kb site,
0.7" = 1428kb/s
1.7" = 588kb/s
Thus, the speed of the 3gs is 2.43x that of the original 3g.
This is a common mistake I see everywhere... The comparison is made backwards because he who makes the article forgets that when you are talking about time to compare speeds, the relationship is inverse, not direct.
That being said... I still need a phone with a real keyboard. I'd like to see how the next n97 and HTC touch pro2 do against all of these, specially in the OS and application response time department... not too interested in bandwidth measurements as I use the phone too little when it comes to browsing.
DeepBlue1975 - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkPardon me, forgot to say that, in this article, you are not actually measuring speed, but rather the time it takes for the newcomer to get things done when compared to the original one.
In that respect, saying that the 3gs takes only 59% of the time of the original one is pretty correct... What is not correct, is to say that it's 59% faster.
Tristano - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkWhy is the first iPhone ignored in these speed comparisons? Millions of first-generation iPhone owners are contemplating the upgrade, and I have no idea how the first generation phone compares in speed to either the 3g or the 3gs. Reply
jimhsu - Friday, June 19, 2009 - link"Faster" in itself is ambiguous. Takes "half the time", a 54% reduction in launch time, "twice as fast" ... there's got to be a better alternative. Reply
DerekWilson - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkYou know, I've always advocated for using "percent difference" ... It would look like this:
abs(test1 - test2) / ( (test1+test2) / 2) )
Right now we tend to look at either "percent increase" or "percent decrease" which are relative to either the higher or lower value in the testing ...
These two options do definitely have their place, but all three are useful for different purposes. Reply
Cacolaco - Friday, June 19, 2009 - link100% reduction in time?
That's the sort of alternative I'd be more than happy to pay for... Reply
DerekWilson - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkyou have got to be tired. get some freaking rest already!
But also, those are some pretty solid improvements ... very impressive stuff.
I'm hoping the G2 will bring some improvements to google's platform since I have t-mobile and don't want to break my contract ... Reply
Cacolaco - Friday, June 19, 2009 - linkI can't understand why the Blackberry Storm isn't included in comparisons like this. There was a new update a couple of weeks ago, and, at least in terms of loading applications, the storm is just as fast as the 3G S, if not faster. I can say, for a fact, that the Storm is faster than the numbers listed for the 3G, Pre, and G1.
I'm not saying the Storm is better. The iPhone has a LOT of things going for it, but the Storm is a popular phone on one of the nations largest carriers, and it performs well enough (now, if not when it was released) to be included in comparisons such as this. Reply
bocafit - Sunday, January 10, 2010 - linkI think the comparison really comes down to what you're using the iPod for. It actually comes with a lot of business apps, which really wouldn't make a difference in the S.
Anand Lal Shimpi - Sunday, June 21, 2009 - linkThe only reason I didn't include the Storm? I don't have one :) I was a blackberry user long before the iPhone, there's a special place in my heart for them - although I think I still do favor the older blackberries thanks to their larger keyboards. I loved typing on them.
Take care,
Anand Reply
Cacolaco - Sunday, June 21, 2009 - linkThat's a pretty good reason...
Yeah, typing seems to a love it or hate it thing with the Storm. I love the Storm's typing, and it is more responsive than when it launched, but I don't think anything compares to a physical keyboard.
I think somebody should definitely whisper in RIM's ear to get you an updated Storm for a review! Reply
sieistganzfett - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkYou're kidding right?? I have a storm... You want a comparision? ok.. first off there is no WIFI, so no point in results there since storm 1 doesn't have wifi.
v188.8.131.52 (Platform 184.108.40.206) opening different progs.. (I run the appleberry theme since it's more responsive than the storm's default theme)
Web Browser... 6 sec
Dialer......... 2 sec
Google maps.... 2 sec
Camera......... 4 sec
to take a pic with max resolution. etc. with camera... no comparison... by the time it takes a pic, what ever i was taking one of is long GONE! it takes about 3-7 sec on a GOOD DAY.. lowering resolution, etc. makes this marginally better. for it to SAVE the pic, it takes about 8 sec.
Email.......... 0.8sec
Conclusion: the phone still locks up on heavy use of email/phone, or just turns off since it can't handle heavy use... this is a hardware problem on my phone since there are some other storms that do not experience this. the new OS is faster than the original, .75 however, this is NO iphone, so don't expect it to work consistently like one. :p Reply
Cacolaco - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkI'd say the problem that is cropping up here for the Storm is inconsistency, then, because your times for opening those apps are longer than what I've experienced across the board, with the exception of Google Maps, which your phone seems to do well with.
I have been very happy with the camera on my phone. It runs circles around my wife's Flipshot, as far as responsiveness and image quality are concerned. I've had no problems with shutter delay on the highest settings (as with many cameras, the responsiveness is much better when you press half way to let the autofocus work), although video recording doesn't always stop recording as responsively as I'd like.
My web browser, and dialer launch within no more than 1 second, and the camera is ready to go within 1.5 to 2 seconds.
I should note that I am using the default theme.
I'm not trying to disclaim your numbers - I'm legitimately concerned about the fact that the Storm seems to display such a difference in application performance from phone to phone, as I personally know 2 people who aren't happy with their Storm.
And wi-fi being absent shouldn't exclude the storm. People have made such a big deal about this... Where was mms on the iPhone, or video, or flash for the camera (kudos to Apple for adding some of these, btw)? These things might not be important to you, but they are to me, much more so than wi-fi. Each of these phonse have their advantages and disadvantages, and for many, Wi-fi is no more vital than options missing on other phones.
Based on my personal experience, it is a shame that the Storm doesn't get a fair chance. (and to those who would quote sales numbers, they really have no place in a hardware/software performance comparison)
sieistganzfett - Sunday, June 21, 2009 - linklet's trade! :) Reply
witinnovation09 - Thursday, January 28, 2010 - linkThe iPhone 3GS uses an ARM Cortex A8 processor running at 600MHz, faster than its older versions. This processor brings a good speed in your routine works. For instance, in an experiment with new 3GS, web pages render 128% faster than old iPhones; the clock speed boost was 45% and over all performance of 3GS found mimics to the Palm Pre. The basic application load time found ranges in between the 14 to 72% faster than the other Phones.
Iphone application development Reply
omnivector - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkThe reason for that is pretty simple -- the Blackberry Storm is more or less a failure. Reply
AJRobins - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkI wouldn't call it a failure.
However, the Storm is certainly lagging behind in sales. IIRC, the Storm sold around 500,000 units in the first month. The iPhone 3GS is estimated to sell around 500,000-750,000 units in the first weekend. Reply
Tegeril - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkI'd call it a failure. Reply
iPhoneSucks - Sunday, June 21, 2009 - linkFlawed Comparison.
No Nokia Phone! atleast you could include 5800XM / N97
Why there is no COST aspect (i mean both cost of ownership initially and over a period of contract)
just comparing speed and declaring it as a winner is such a low tech
well done Anand. keep it up. That's what i expect from an Indian
yeah, i am an indian too. Reply
jaganm - Sunday, June 21, 2009 - linkJust for kicks, I did a comparison of some of the sites mentioned here on my n82 and ipod touch (running OS3.0). The Nokia takes around 4-6 times longer than the ipod to load these sites. These were all on wi-fi sitting right next to my base station.
The Nokia phones have a much slower processor and their build of webkit is way slower. So, there's no point really comparing the two. Reply
KentState - Saturday, June 20, 2009 - linkI was wondering the same thing. I'm sitting here launching the applications listed in the comparison. The dialer, email, web browser, and camera launch instantly with a button press. Google Maps took a little longer to launch, but it was as fast as the 3GS. Reply
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Dawn Lundy Martin earned a BA from the University of Connecticut, an MA in creative writing from San Francisco State University, and a PhD in English from the University of Massachusetts, Amherst.
Martin's first full-length collection, A Gathering of Matter / A Matter of Gathering (University of Georgia Press, 2007), was selected by Carl Phillips for the 2007 Cave Canem Poetry Prize. Her second collection, Discipline, won the 2009 Nightboat Books Poetry Prize, chosen by Fanny Howe (Nightboat Books, 2011). Her most recent collection is Life in a Box Is a Pretty Life (Nightboat Books, 2014).
In 2004, she co-edited, alongside Vivien Labaton, The Fire This Time: Young Activists and the New Feminism (Anchor Books, 2004), a collection of essays on modern theories of activism in America. She also wrote the Afterword, titled "What, Then, is Freedom," to Harriet Ann Jacobs' 19th century slave narrative, Incidents of a Slave Girl (Signet Classics, 2010).
Martin is co-founder of the Third Wave Foundation in New York, a national grant making organization led by young women and transgender youth, which focuses on social justice activism. She is also a member of the Black Took Collective, a group of experimental black poets embracing critical theory about gender, race, and sexuality.
She has been the recipient of two poetry grants from the Massachusetts Cultural Council and was awarded the 2008 Academy of American Arts and Sciences May Sarton Prize for Poetry.
She has taught at Montclair State University, The New School, and the Institute for Writing and Thinking at Bard College. She is currently an assistant professor in the writing program at the University of Pittsburgh.
Selected Bibliography
Life in a Box Is a Pretty Life (Nightboat Books, 2014)
Discipline (Nightboat Books, 2011)
A Gathering of Matter / A Matter of Gathering (University of Georgia Press, 2007)


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Pence, Bosma intraparty tax battle boils over
Tensions between Gov. Mike Pence and House Speaker Brian Bosma over Pence's proposed personal income tax cut have run afoul of Ronald Reagan's famous dictum that no Republican should speak ill of another in the heat of an intraparty squabble.
Pence invoked Reagan's "11th Commandment" at a Republican Party fundraiser last week as he tried to drum up support for his proposal. He pleaded for Bosma and tea partyers Americans for Prosperity to cool their heels.
The tea party group is airing ads chastising House Republicans for opposing Pence's tax cut.
The ads have angered Bosma. He calls them "erroneous" and contends Pence harmed his own chances within the Legislature by fumbling the campaign rollout of the tax cut proposal last year.
Copyright © 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This story may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.


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I dropped into a speech by Lord Mandelson this evening organised by Progress at Portcullis House in Westminster. He was fairly calm and restrained, but made a few interesting points:
* Politics needs more people from the real world, not just party apparatchiks and former union chiefs in the Westminster bubble. Labour needs politicians "from every region and every social background," he said. True – but the point would be more forceful coming from someone with a different background. Read more


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Apple iPod Touch
When the iPhone came out in June, many people (including me) loved it, but wanted it without the phoneand that pesky two-year contract with AT&T Wireless. I'm no Luddite, but I don't want my personal media player to ring in the middle of a song.
Read the full review of the Apple iPod Touch.


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Adapted track events help Dees mentally, spiritually
Published: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 at 6:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 at 10:31 p.m.
Jim Akins can't say enough words to describe his admiration for Drew Dees.
He remembers well the day Dees, who was born with cerebral palsy and is confined to a wheelchair, asked him if he could play junior varsity football at Trenton High.
"I worried about his safety," said Akins, who was also the school's track coach at the time. "I heard about the adapted shot put event that the FHSAA (Florida High School Athletics Association) was offering in track and field and asked Drew to try it and see if he liked it."
He did. Dees has won the Class 1A adapted shot put state title the last three years.
In 2009, the FHSAA, in partnership and consultation with the American Association of Adapted Sports Programs, added adapted track and field events to allow students with physical disabilities the opportunity to compete in the state series in the 200- and 800-meter wheelchair races and the wheelchair shot put.
The positive effects Dees' athletic accomplishments have brought him mentally and spiritually have been immeasurable, says his mother, Sam Worley. The 18-year-old Drew has a younger brother Brian Worley, 16, who plays both baseball and football for Trenton High, which just had a historic season as state champion and state runner-up, respectively. Youngest brother Laine Worley, who will turn 7 in August, also has interest in sports.
Drew simply wanted to fit in, wanted to be part of the family.
"It has been a total turnaround for him," Worley said. "He was a depressed kid, he didn't want to support his brothers. Since he has done the shot put, he is way more outgoing. His whole attitude now is, 'If I can do this, then other kids like me can also do it.' "
In January, the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights issued a proclamation, urging school districts to work with community organizations to increase athletic opportunities for students with disabilities. It contends that athletics is a civil right to the disabled and schools that don't protect it could lose federal funding.
Dr. Roger Dearing, executive director of the FHSAA, fully supports the government's guidelines in providing those with disabilities the right to participate in extracurricular athletics.
"Florida has been ahead of the curve for several years, and we fully embrace the steps suggested by the federal government," Dearing said in a news release. "In the past few years we have added some adaptive sports to the athletic activities offered at member schools, and we look forward to working with schools, districts and – most importantly – student-athletes with disabilities and their parents – to provide every reasonable opportunity for them to experience the joy and benefits of athletic competition.
"Wherever and whenever possible, we want every student to have the opportunity to be a part of the team, because providing access to athletic programs for students with disabilities certainly adds value to their overall educational experience. If this new guidance helps just one more student become a student-athlete, it will be worth the effort."
While the FHSAA supports it, there hasn't been a significant response from disabled students. In track and field, which has three adapted events for those with disabilities, had six participants among all four classifications.
The Class 3A state meet had participants in all three adapted events in both boys and girls. Saxsen Norton of Belleview won all three events in girls and also gave the Rattlers a state title in adapted track and field.
Drew Dees has won three straight boys adapted state titles for Trenton.
"I live in a house of champions," Dees said.
Dees said initially he was nervous about trying out for track and field because he wasn't sure how his teammates would treat him. Instead, he discovered how supportive his teammates were.
"Brandon Stone came up and asked me if I want to participate in track with him," Dees remembers. "I was wondering how the others would treat me. The whole team has been absolutely awesome. I wouldn't change a thing."
Although Dees has yet to face competition, his former coach said his determination to make it is a victory in itself.
"That in itself is quite an accomplishment," said Akins, who has taken over as Newberry High's basketball coach. "It is going to take a lot of work to get these kids out there. The parents are afraid other kids will make fun of them. Everyone has to get together about this. They are kids too, and we are trying to make the best for it. He can't help what happened to him. Whether he has competition or not, he had the guts to do it."
Justin Harrison, FHSAA's assistant executive director for athletic services, said the organization tries to accommodate adapted requests to participate in a sport if a school submits it. The real challenge for the FHSAA is getting the word out to not only schools, but to families of disabled students who want to participate in sports.
"Other student-athletes in other sports have gotten in touch with their schools, who have gotten in touch with us and we kind of make that accommodation for them to get out there," Harrison said. "We have communicated to our schools if you have any student-athletes that want to participate in these sports to let us know so we can work on setting something up for them. We want to get them the same benefits and excitement that others have in sports."
Depending on the disability, not all sports would be easily integrated. Accordingly, accommodations should not take anything away from competition with those who are not disabled. For example, football would be difficult for those who cannot use their legs, but for disabilities such as hearing-impaired, it has worked for years at Florida School for the Deaf and Blind in St. Augustine, which will play at Oak Hall on Aug. 29.
"Every student-athlete is different," Harrison said. "It really comes down to what accommodation is needed for those student-athletes to compete."
Dees, who has endless support from his parents, Sam and Chris Worley, said his goal these days is to spread the word about competing.
"My whole goal is to inspire kids," he said. "They can say, 'Hey if he can do it, why not me? It is exciting and fun now. I would rather compete against someone than to win it again. It is time to pass the torch to another individual.
"When I get to compete in sports, it is just an awesome feeling."
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TWO recruitment consultants, who job-share based in Basingstoke, are off to Marrakech after being recognised for their dedication and hard work at an awards event.
Next month Jane Austen and Natalia Escandell of Adecco Basingstoke will spend three nights in the exotic Moroccan city after they were awarded second place as Temporary Consultant of the Year in the company's awards.
The pair, based at the recruitment agency's Top of The Town offices, in Winchester Street, held off competition from 200 consultants from the UK and Ireland due to their hard work and dedication to candidates and clients.
The Adecco Annual Awards Conference recognises employees who have demonstrated excellence in their work.
Jane has been with the Basingstoke branch for 24 years while Natalia has been with the branch for 11 years.
Branch manager Kim Gordon, said: "The trip will be great fun and an amazing experience. I'm delighted that Jane and Natalia have been recognised for all their hard work and dedication.
"Adecco would, as always, like to thank their candidates and clients for their continued support throughout the year."


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An infantile hemangioma (hem-an-gee-o-ma), or "strawberry mark," is a very common type of birthmark made of blood vessels. Most hemangiomas are not visible at birth. When they do appear, they may first show up as a small bruise, scratch or tiny red bump.
Most hemangiomas are not visible at birth, but they often begin to appear during the first four to six weeks of a child's life. All skin hemangiomas will be visible by six months of age.
They may occur anywhere on the skin surface, but they are most common on the scalp, face and neck. Many first appear as a small bruise, scratch or a tiny red bump. But unlike other types of birthmarks, they will grow and change quickly during your child's first few months.
Hemangiomas can occur anywhere on the skin, including, rarely, in the organs of the body. Most often, hemangiomas grow on the skin of the head or neck.
There are three general types of infantile hemangiomas:
The cause of infantile hemangioma is unknown. However, we do know some things about them. For example:
Although most infantile hemangiomas are not anything to worry about, approximately 12 percent of these are complex enough to warrant a visit with a specialist who is familiar with birthmarks and vascular anomalies and knows what to look for. If your child develops any marks or lumps, it's best to have them checked by a pediatrician who will let you know whether you should see a specialist.
Infantile hemangiomas grow rapidly for the first few weeks or months. They then enter a rest phase by about 8 months of age. And they usually begin to shrink (involution phase) around 1 year of age. As the lesion shrinks, the color may change from red to purple and gray. It may take several years for the hemangioma to go away completely. Larger lesions take a longer time to go away and have a greater chance of scarring.
The table below provides a bit of information about hemangiomas, along with some image examples.
Most hemangiomas will go through the growth and involution phases without causing any problems. However, about 25 percent of hemangiomas will have a complication. Your doctor will help you determine if your child's hemangioma may be likely to have a complication based on the size, location and speed of growth.
Possible complications include:
Most hemangiomas do not cause discomfort for your baby unless ulceration occurs. Ulcerations can be painful, even before you can see them. If you think your baby is experiencing pain, you should let your pediatrician know.
The final appearance of a hemangioma varies from person to person and will depend on a number of things, including:
Some areas are more prone to scarring than others – like areas where skin doesn't stretch easily.
Areas prone to scarring include:
Sometimes, extra skin remains in these areas once the hemangioma has shrunk. Once the hemangioma's shrinking phase (involution) is complete, a plastic surgeon can remove extra skin, if necessary. If there is any remaining discoloration, laser therapy may help.
Doctors usually make a diagnosis when a lesion appears. Occasionally, physicians will use a Doppler (sound device) to check the blood flow through a birthmark to help distinguish it from other vascular lesions. This technique is frequently used at Children's. It has an additional benefit of helping the doctor know which phase the hemangioma is in. A skin biopsy or an imaging study also can help make the diagnosis if the lesion is not typical in its appearance or in its behavior.
About 80 percent of patients have one skin hemangioma, but it is not uncommon for some infants to have more than one.
It is very uncommon to have internal hemangiomas, but they may occur on internal organs. The risk of internal hemangiomas increases if your child has more than six skin hemangiomas. During your child's physical exam, the doctor might feel your child's liver and spleen to determine if the size is normal. The doctor also may order imaging studies if he or she thinks that your child has any risk of internal hemangiomas.
In general, infantile hemangiomas will shrink over time, and most disappear completely on their own. Therefore, most will not require treatment. However, some hemangiomas do need treatment.
Whether to treat a hemangioma is determined by a number of factors, including:
Hemangiomas that are located in areas that can threaten health (airway or liver) or normal development (ear canal or on the eye) and those hemangiomas that are potentially disfiguring (face) are treated more quickly and aggressively than hemangiomas that pose less of a risk.
Laser treatments are available through the Laser Clinic at Children's Hospital of Wisconsin.
Currently, the FDA has not approved the use of any medication for the treatment of infantile hemangiomas. Birthmark and vascular anomalies specialists at Children's are participating in ongoing research projects to find the safest and best treatments for hemangiomas.
Learn more about the best treatment options for your child.
Traditionally, hemangiomas haven't been considered to be an inherited condition; however, a recent study completed by our team of specialists has demonstrated a tendency for hemangiomas to run in families. Further studies need to be completed before the true risk of having a second infant with a hemangioma is known. Hemangiomas are very common, and in our experience, they do not tend to occur in the same location within families.
The Medical College of Wisconsin and Children's are conducting several studies on hemangiomas . For more information, contact Shawna Joachim, clinical research coordinator, at (414) 955-2817.
Learn more about birthmarks and vascular anomalies and current hemangioma research at Children's.


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