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Howard Kurtz doesn't understand fact-checking (con't)
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OK, one more point about Howard Kurtz's fact-checking segment yesterday. Earlier, Eric Boehlert noted that Kurtz seemed to go out of his way to find a reason to slap a Democrat on the wrists, and I showed that his "fact-checking" of Bill Clinton and Tim Geithner wasn't actually a fact-check. So how did Kurtz do with Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell? Not well.
On the April 18 CNN broadcast of State of the Union With Candy Crowley, McConnell reiterated his contention that Senate financial reform legislation is "a bailout fund that sort of guarantees in perpetuity that we will be intervening once again to bail out these big firms."
Politifact concluded that similar claims by McConnell at a press conference a few days earlier were "false," noting:
the "bailouts" at issue are those for the small number of very large, highly interconnected institutions -- those sometimes called "too big to fail" because their collapse would severely impact the rest of the economy.
The legislative language says that the money must be used to dissolve -- meaning completely shut down -- failing firms.
Sen. Bob Corker, a Republican, helped draft the orderly liquidation measures in the bill, and he has been arguing against McConnell's assertions that the bill allows bailouts.
He was asked about the bill on MSNBC's Morning Joe on April 20. "Does it ensure future bailouts as Mitch McConnell suggests?" asked host Joe Scarborough.
"There are some loopholes in the bill, no question," Corker replied. "But generally speaking, the central elements of the bill absolutely do the opposite."
Corker gave an extended speech on the floor of the Senate the day before, discussing many details of the bill, including the $50 billion fund.
"This fund that has been set up is anything but a bailout," Corker said. "It has been set up in essence to provide upfront funding by the industry so that when these companies are seized, there is money available to make payroll and to wind it down while the pieces are being sold off."
In ruling on McConnell's statement, that financial reform "actually guarantees future bailouts of Wall Street banks," we base our ruling primarily on the legislation. It clearly states that the intention is to liquidate failing companies, not bail them out. To do that, it creates a fund with contributions from financial firms, not from taxpayer funds. We do not see any element of the bill that expressly permits ongoing, "endless" outlays from the federal treasury. Is it possible that liquidation may cost the government money, potentially more money than is allowed for in the bill? Yes. But even so, McConnell is using seriously overheated rhetoric. Nothing in the bill "guarantees" future bailouts of Wall Street banks. We rate his statement False.
But Howard Kurtz looked at McConnell's claims on CNN -- and declared them true, criticizing the GOP leader only for misquoting former Labor Secretary Robert Reich:
KURTZ: That last part is not true. Robert Reich said the bill preserves the possibility that the Fed could launch another bank bailout, but that, he says on his blog, has nothing to do with the liquidation fund.
Reich now writes, "When Mitch McConnell has to misquote me to find evidence he's telling the truth, he is desperate. No, Senator, I never said Dodd's finance reform bill contains a bailout fund."
McConnell's other points are true. "A "Washington Post" editorial said McConnell is partially right about the fund for failing banks. It wouldn't be taxpayer money, but, "Of course the big banks would find some way to pass that cost along." And McConnell is right that Geithner himself warned months ago that such a fund would create an expectation that the government would rescue insolvent banks.
Based on Politifact's research -- and Corker's statements -- it looks like McConnell's claims on CNN about the legislation were wildly misleading, even "false." But Kurtz says only that McConnell misquoted Reich, and that the rest of what he said was "true." Why? Because a Washington Post editorial said he was mostly right.
Put it all together, and here's what you have: Kurtz went out of his way to portray something Bill Clinton said as false, even though it was true. He portrayed as false an utterly insignificant comment by Tim Geithner, without actually establishing that it was false. And he bent over backwards to find something Mitch McConnell said that he could portray as true, while ignoring the fact that McConnell's comments over all were, according to Politifact's research, false.
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SAINT LEO, Fla. – The Saint Leo volleyball team got off to an unblemished start as the Lions claimed twin victories in the season-opening Saint Leo Lions Classic at the remodeled Marion Bowman Activities Center on Friday. The Lions opened up their season with a 3-0 (25-13, 25-17, 25-15) win over Charleston and then fought back from an early deficit when they downed Southwest Baptist 3-1 (17-25, 25-20, 25-21, 25-21) in the day's final match.
"I thought (the day) was good. I thought we started off slow in the second match but we calmed down and we played with a little poise which was great to see," Head Coach Sam Cibrone said after the last match had concluded.
After the Lions (2-0) rolled through Charleston (0-2) in the afternoon match, a quick start to their nightcap against Southwest Baptist (0-2) would quickly cool when they found themselves on the wrong end of the 25-17 first-set score. Responding to the adversity on the first day of the season, the team managed to just keep a few paces ahead of their opponents in the next three sets as they managed clutch kills and benefitted from timely opposing errors to take the victory.
The win over Southwest Baptist was also the match that cemented outside hitter Sami Vierk's name into the collectives of Lions' fans as the senior transfer went 13-for-20 with an astounding .600 average to lead her new team to the win. Tawni Warren started her sophomore season off on the right foot with a 10-kill evening.
The Lions' defense showed up big in important moments of the match as Saint Leo tallied 10 total blocks and three players: Abby Lovell, Lauren Campbell and Molly Alexander registered double-digit digs.
Saint Leo will hopefully push the momentum into the tournament's second day when it faces Montevallo, who also went undefeated on day one, and Queens (NC), who split their opening matches. The Lions' first match will get underway at 2 p.m. at the Bowman Center.

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Seattle -- Starbucks Corp. said its profit rose in its first quarter as customers spent more at its stores in the United States and Asia.
Starbucks earned $432.2 million in the quarter ended December 30, 2012, compared with $382.1 million in the year-ago period.
Revenue rose 11% to $3.8 billion, slightly below expectations.
The company reported that global same-store sales rose 6%. In Europe, the metric fell 1%. Americas' comparable store sales grew 7%. Same-store sales in the China/Asia Pacific region grew 11%.
"Record earnings in the first quarter continued our strong momentum, reflecting the underlying strength in our core business," commented Troy Alstead, CFO. "We delivered excellent holiday results with 6% global comps, marking the 12th consecutive quarter of comps in excess of 5%. Our first quarter results demonstrate both efficiency, with record U.S. productivity, and innovation, with the successful launch of Verismo, our newest growth platform."
Starbucks also reaffirmed its fiscal 2013 targets, which include the opening of approximately 1,300 net new stores globally, representing 22% growth over fiscal 2012. Approximately 600 of the new stores will be located in the Americas, with the majority in the United States. Of the approximately 600 stores, approximately half of the additions will be licensed stores.
Approximately 600 net new stores will be in China/Asia Pacific, with licensed stores comprising approximately half of the new additions. Of the approximately 600 stores, slightly more than half will be in China.
The remaining 100 net new stores will be in EMEA (Europe, Middle East, Russia and Africa), with licensed stores comprising more than two-thirds of the new stores.


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THE only Division Two match that beat the weather was the one featuring Heytesbury and Worton & Cheverell.
Originally scheduled for The Lye, the fixture was switched to Heytesbury Park where the teams met in the first of back-to-back fixtures and it is the former who will go into next week's reverse clash full of confidence after taking maximum points thanks to a 2-0 success.
Neither team were able to fashion a breakthrough in a first half of very few chances with the deadlock being broken on 54 minutes with Jamie Howse scoring from the penalty spot to give the hosts the lead.
Heytesbury sealed their victory on 72 minutes when Joe Martin doubled their advanatge and things should have been a little easier for Martyn Spratt's side a minute later when Howse fired his second spot kick of the afternoon yards over the bar.
But despite the miss it didn't prove costley as the home team can look forward to next weeks return clash knowing that second division surviaval should be secured.
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Karl Robert Eduard von Hartmann (February 23, 1842 – June 5, 1906), was a German philosopher.
Biography Edit
He was born in Berlin, and educated with the intention of a military career. He entered the artillery of the Guards as an officer in 1860, but was forced to leave in 1865 because of a knee problem. After some hesitation between music and philosophy, he decided to make the latter his profession, and in 1867 obtained a Ph. D. from the University of Rostock. He subsequently returned to Berlin, and died at Grosslichterfelde.
Philosophy Edit
His reputation as a philosopher was established by his first book, The Philosophy of the Unconscious (1869). This success was largely due to the originality of its title, the diversity of its contents (Von Hartmann professing to obtain his speculative results by the methods of inductive science, and making plentiful use of concrete illustrations), the fashionableness of its pessimism and the vigour and lucidity of its style. The conception of the Unconscious, by which Von Hartmann describes his ultimate metaphysical principle, is not at bottom as paradoxical as it sounds, being merely a new and mysterious designation for the Absolute of German metaphysicians.
The Unconscious appears as a combination of the metaphysics of Hegel with that of Arthur Schopenhauer. The Unconscious is both Will and Reason and the absolute all-embracing ground of all existence. Von Hartmann thus combines pantheism with panlogism in a manner adumbrated by Schelling in his positive philosophy. Nevertheless Will and not Reason is the primary aspect of the Unconscious, whose melancholy career is determined by the primacy of the Will and the subservience of the Reason. Precosmically the Will is potential and the Reason latent, and the Will is void of reason when it passes from potentiality to actual willing. This latter is absolute misery, and to cure it the Unconscious evokes its Reason and with its aid creates the best of all possible worlds, which contains the promise of its redemption from actual existence by the emancipation of the Reason from its subjugation to the Will in the conscious reason of the enlightened pessimist. When the greater part of the Will in existence is so far enlightened by reason as to perceive the inevitable misery of existence, a collective effort to will non-existence will be made, and the world will relapse into nothingness, the Unconscious into quiescence.
Von Hartmann is a pessimist, but not an unmitigated one. The individual's happiness is indeed unattainable either here and now or hereafter and in the future, but he does not despair of ultimately releasing the Unconscious from its sufferings. He differs from Schopenhauer in making salvation by the negation of the Will-to-live depend on a collective social effort and not on individualistic asceticism. The conception of a redemption of the Unconscious also supplies the ultimate basis of Von Hartmann's ethics. We must provisionally affirm life and devote ourselves to social evolution, instead of striving after a happiness which is impossible; in so doing we shall find that morality renders life less unhappy than it would otherwise be. Suicide, and all other forms of selfishness, are highly reprehensible. Epistemologically Von Hartmann is a transcendental realist, who ably defends his views and acutely criticizes those of his opponents. His realism enables him to maintain the reality of Time, and so of the process of the world's redemption.
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Von Hartmann's numerous works extend to more than 12,000 pages. They may be classified into:
Systematical, including Grand probleme:
- Die Erkenntnistheorie; Kategorienlehre; Das sittliche Bewusstsein; Die Philosophie des Schönen; Die Religion des Geistes; Die Philosophie des Unbewussten (3 vols., which now include his, originally anonymous, self-criticism, Das Unbewusste vom Standpunkte der Physiologie und Descendenztheorie, and its refutation, Eng. trs. by W. C. Coupland, 1884)
- System der Philosophie im Grundriss, L
- Grundriss der Erkenntnislehre
Historical and critical:
- Das religiöse Bewusstsein der Menschheit
- Geschichte der Metaphysik (2 vols.)
- Kants Erkenntnistheorie
- Kritische Grundlegung des transcendentalen Realismus
- Uber die dialektische Methode
- studies of Schelling, Lotze, von Kirchmann
- Zur Geschichte des Pessimismus
- Neukantianismus, Schopenhauerismus, Hegelianismus
- Geschichte der deutschen Ästhetik und Kant
- Die Krisis des Christentums in der modernen Theologie
- Philosophische Fragen der Gegenwart
- Ethische Studien
- Moderne Psychologie
- Das Christentum des neuen Testaments
- Die Weltanschauung der modernen Physik
- Soziale Kernfragen
- Moderne Probleme
- Tagesfragen
- Zwei Jahrzehnte deutscher Politik
- Das Judentum in Gegenwart und Zukunft
- Die Selbstzersetzung des Christentums
- Gesammelte Studien
- Der Spiritismus and Die Geisterhypothese des Spiritismus
- Zur Zeitgeschichle
His select works were published in 10 volumes.
See alsoEdit
Carl Jung wrote in his autobiography, Memories, Dreams, Reflections (1963), that he read von Hartmann "assiduously" (p. 101) ISBN 0-679-72395-1.
This article incorporates text from the Encyclopædia Britannica, Eleventh Edition, a publication now in the public domain.


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Road-weary A's drop finale in Motor City
Sweep by Tigers ends fifth consecutive three-city road trip
DETROIT -- Motown misery continued for the A's on Wednesday.
Swept out of Detroit by way of a 9-3 loss in the three-game series finale at Comerica Park, the A's can only hope they don't have to see the Tigers again before year's end.
Except manager Bob Melvin's already hungry for a rematch.
"I hope we do get to play them again," Melvin said after the game.
"It wasn't a very good series for us. Getting swept doesn't feel very good. … We feel like we can play with any team. They just beat us this series."
The two teams, of course, have clashed in the American League Division Series in each of the previous two years, the A's exiting at the hands of Justin Verlander in Game 5 on both occasions.
Verlander wasn't so much dominant in Wednesday's regular-season matchup, scattering nine hits and allowing two runs in six innings. The A's simply squandered multiple scoring opportunities, particularly right before they allowed six runs in the sixth -- a day after being shut out by a stellar Rick Porcello following Monday's devastating walk-off loss.
"These are guys that we've kind of treated as a rival, the A's," Verlander said. "Even though they're a West Coast team, and not in our division, with what's gone on the last couple years and in the playoffs, it's hard not to get a little bit of extra energy when you're playing these guys, and same for them."
Detroit won the season series over the A's, 5-2. Oakland claimed it last year, 4-3.
"You look at the overall series the last few years, it's probably pretty even," said Derek Norris. "Their pitching staff and our pesky hitters and our good staff and their aggressive hitters, it's a good matchup. It's just a matter of executing your pitches. If you do that, you beat them. If you don't, they beat you. Same thing in reverse."
Despite being on the wrong end of a three-game sweep for the third time this season, the A's still maintain the Majors' best record at 51-33. But the Angels are just 3 1/2 games back in the AL West, with the Mariners only trailing by 4 1/2.
The A's at least have to be relieved that a brutal stretch of five consecutive three-city road trips is in the rearview mirror, though they'll have to make it through the All-Star break without a day off.
The club went 4-11 in final cities during these three-stop swings, exiting Detroit looking rather fatigued after beginning the road trip 4-1.
Their energy was up from Tuesday's defeat, and Brandon Moss collected a career high-tying four hits in the affair, with Coco Crisp chipping in three. But the team as a whole stranded eight baserunners on the day -- including three in both the third and sixth innings -- while the Tigers excelled in clearing the bases.
Oakland's 2-0 lead, brought on by homers from Moss and Crisp off Verlander in the first, was quickly cut in half in the bottom of the inning, when Torii Hunter notched the first of his three RBI hits. His second one with two outs off A's starter Jesse Chavez knotted the game in the third, and the Tigers already carried a one-run advantage going into the six-run sixth.
Chavez was tagged for two runs in the inning, while Jim Johnson shouldered four, as his ERA ballooned to 5.94 in what continues to be a disappointing tenure in green and gold.
It was a tough situation for Johnson, who entered the game after Chavez issued back-to-back walks. Andrew Romine naturally set down a bunt to put runners at second and third, and Rajai Davis -- a thorn in the A's side this year -- grounded a two-run single up the middle for a 5-2 Tigers lead.
Johnson then allowed three more hits in a row.
"I think the sixth inning had a lot to do with how the game ended up," said Melvin. "We had first and third, nobody out, and couldn't score, and then they put up a six-spot.
"That's a tough spot I put [Johnson] in. They're going to bunt, and then he needs a ground ball and gets it, just up the middle. If he gets it in a little more, it's more at the shortstop. But that's what you're asking of him. That's why he's in that situation, to get a ground ball. It ended up being up the middle, and the gates kind of opened from there."
"He's been thrown in some tough situations as of late, but we're still looking for this guy to be a force for us down the stretch," said Norris. "Any guy that has that good of a sinker, ground-ball pitchers like that are at a premium. He's just gotta find some confidence."
The A's got a run back in the seventh on an RBI base hit from Moss, but nothing more. They finally head home but figure to be tested again in a four-game meeting with the Blue Jays, who swept them in a three-game set at Rogers Centre in May.
"Once you have a lead, you want to keep it," said Chavez, who has allowed nine runs in his last 10 innings. "We're not going to sweat it. It's one series, and we'll bounce back as a team."
Jane Lee is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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In this exercise you use Flash Builder to create a production build of the Flash application shown in Figure 1.
In this exercise you will learn how to:
In this section, you will explore the contents of the bin-debug directory.
You should see the Employee Portal page (see Figure 2).
The bin-debug output files contain additional debug code and metadata that the debugger uses for tasks such as setting breakpoints or viewing variables.
In this section, you will create a release build version of the Employee Portal application.
Note that the export folder is named bin-release.
In this section, you will view the release build in a browser and use the source view option to view the code source.
You should see the file size is considerably smaller (see Figure 7).
You should see the source view open (see Figure 9). Note the Download source link in the bottom left corner.
In this exercise you used Flash Builder to create a production build of the Flash application.
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Tarellian starships (also referred to as Tarellian plague ships) were vessels used as late as the 2360s to carry Tarellian refugees, following the Tarellian Civil War. These ships were built at an underwater base located three miles below sea level and were equipped with warp drive.
Nearly every star system that the vessels entered either turned them away or destroyed them, through fear of spreading the Tarellian plague. By the early 2360s, there was only one of these ships known to still exist.
In 2364, the USS Enterprise-D encountered the last surviving vessel, and its sparse crew. On board the Enterprise-D at the time, Wyatt Miller joined the last of the Tarellian crew, hoping that he would, some day, find a cure for their plague. (TNG: "Haven")


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Hi folks, just a heads up that Take Care is shutting down for a few days while we take a break from work in all its paid and unpaid varieties. The catalogue pages will be back up in a little over a week, with more zines added and a round up of interesting zine related news. So, as usual, stay tuned.
EDIT – 5th July
Ok, so the hiatus has taken a been a bit longer than expected, mostly because as soon as we came back from our holiday we decided to look for a new house and are currently in the process of packing up and moving from our flat in Enmore to the Blue Mountains. So it will take another week or two to get the catalgue fully up to date. Meanwhile, check out the zine fair we're organising with Vanessa – snapdragonzinefair.wordpress.com.


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Did you know?
Albert Luthuli's famous statement 'The road to freedom is via the cross' illustrates his aversion to violence.
The fight against the apartheid regime produced many heroes and claimed many lives. Albert John Mvumbi Luthuli was one such humanitarian hero who devoted his life to the freedom of his people.
Born in Bulawayo in 1898, the young Luthuli returned to the family home in Natal in 1908 after his father died. Bright and very religious, Luthuli trained as a teacher. He was elected chief of the Groutville reserve (near Stanger) in 1935, abandoning his teaching post for a life of politics.
The devout Christian entered the larger political field when he started to understand the full extent of apartheid through his new position as Chief.
Chief Luthuli joined the ANC in 1945 and was elected as the organisation's Natal Provincial President in 1951. Alongside other political leaders like Nelson Mandela and Oliver Tambo, Luthuli played a pivotal part in carrying out the non-violent protest against apartheid. This protest was known as the Defiance Campaign.
Due to his involvement, Luthuli was stripped of his title as Chief and became president-general of the ANC in 1952. Luthuli was one of nearly 100 people banned after the campaign. He was arrested for high treason in 1956 but later released due to lack of evidence. He was re-elected as president of the ANC in 1955 and again in 1958.
Luthuli led a protest during the notorious Sharpeville Massacre in 1960. The protest unexpectedly turned violent and 72 protestors were shot and killed during the demonstration. Condemning the violence, the humanitarian figure burnt his passbook and became one of 18 000 arrested during countrywide police raids for this action.
Humanitarian icon Albert Luthuli's relentless struggle against apartheid led to his being the first South African to receive a Nobel Peace Prize. A travel ban was temporarily lifted to allow him to attend the awards ceremony in Oslo in Norway in 1961.
(Since then three more South Africans, Anglican Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu and former presidents FW de Klerk and Nelson Mandela, have received the same honour.)
He died in 1967 after he was hit by a train (an accident regarded with some suspicion by his supporters) while walking near his home in Stanger.
In all, he had lived under four successive bans imposed by the apartheid government, severely restricting his movements and political freedom, but his striving for justice remained undimmed until the end.


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What do farm animals sound like?
Join the farmer as he goes on an Animal Sounds Hayride. The chunky John Deere tractor pulls along 4 of kids' favorite farm animals. When the animals are pushed in their seats, they make noises and the tractor plays Old McDonald. This toy requires 3-AAA batteries (included). For ages 18 months and up.
Animal Sounds Hayride Includes: John Deere tractor, farmer, and animal figures


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HOOVER, Ala. - Will Muschamp's defensive acumen has already helped Florida return to the upper echelon of the Southeastern Conference.
The third-year coach spent most of his appearance at SEC Media Days on Tuesday explaining how the offense plans to catch up.
Florida's defense was among the league's best last season, giving up just 14.5 points per game. It needed to be that good, because the Gators' offense ranked 10th in the 14-team SEC with 26.5 points per game.
Even though the no-huddle, high-tempo offense is en vogue in college football, Muschamp has consistently kept a more deliberate, physical approach.
Muschamp said Florida's offense must be more "consistent and efficient," and hopes junior quarterback Jeff Driskel will be able to provide those traits in his second season as the starter.
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Mann 65
— By Capt. Patrick Sciacca
— November 2003
A Beauty and a Beast
|This custom Carolina-built sportfisherman is as finely detailed as a Da Vinci and as tough as a nose tackle.
At first the detail seemed of little import: two ten-inch-long stainless steel rods that were bored-out, flush-fit, and passed through the seamless teak covering boards to port and starboard on the Paul Mann 65. These one-off custom rods allow the line securing the optional 41-foot Rupp outriggers to pass through the covering boards and locked down via a clam cleat underneath. No bulky above-board hardware. Inconsequential? Not to Virginians Jack and Marilyn O'Donnell, for it was artisanal elements like this that led them to choose custom boatbuilder Paul Mann to construct their—and the builder's—largest sportfisherman to date. Indeed, the 65's clean look is the result of owner input, two-plus decades of Mann's boatbuilding experience, and life-size mock-ups of almost all of the boat's features.
"We chartered boats for 18 years," Jack says, recounting his ownership of a charter-fishing business that included in its fleet a 44-foot Ricky Scarborough and a 54-foot Paul Mann. "The idea was to charter this one, 'til we got it. I sold the charter business—the whole shootin' match," he adds with a wide smile. The O'Donnells plan to fish their 65 for pleasure only and do some cruising, and as you can see from the outrigger setup, they knew how they wanted their boat rigged.
Where those stainless steel rods leave off, the expanse and cleanliness of the all-teak cockpit begin. Because it has a mezzanine measuring 8'x2'x1'5" and houses stainless steel bait freezers, a cooler, and an ice maker, the sole is a solid, hatchless structure.
There's no in-deck livewell or fishbox; they're built into the transom and constructed of stainless steel. The unobstructed 196-square-foot cockpit was a beauteous sight to me as an angler, especially bathed in the glow of freshly oiled teak.
But the uninterrupted (except for the optional Release fighting chair) cut serves another purpose: Without a large deck hatch over the lazarette (which is accessed via a small companionway from the engine room), there's no chance for water to drip down, keeping the area dry as a bone and clean as a whistle.
Leaving the cockpit to explore the engine room, which is home to two 1,400-hp Caterpillar 3412E diesels, I measured a comfortable 61 inches (I'm 5'7") of headroom and nearly 26 inches of space outboard of the engines. I did have to crawl over the mounted Craftsman toolbox to access the outboard portion of the starboard Cat, but you do need tools onboard. All regular maintenance points are easily accessed, and the space was, like the rest of the boat, neatly arranged and spotless.
Take that mezzanine, for example. A full-size mock-up helped the owners envision the finished product, and although Mann told me he wished he'd built it a hair lower—my feet dangled off its lounge—the owners told me they love it. In fact, Marilyn spent some quality time here during my day onboard, and it provides a great view of baits and battles without being in the way of the action.
A flying-bridge helm mock-up proved quite useful to Jack, too. Everything from the height of the single-lever Mathers controls to the of the wheel angle to the placement of the trim-tab switch under the teak helm pod was designed to accommodate his frame. (Jack is about six inches taller than me.) That's why I had trouble reaching the tab switches and keeping clean sightlines forward when I ran the 65. That's custom for you.
Next page > Part 2: One thing's for sure: The O'Donnells truly had fun building Poor Girl. > Page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
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>Racing>40 Days from Marathon to 50k: doable or crazy?
I went running with three other guys from work this weekend and at one point we were talking about races. I've been prodding a couple of these guys to join me for a marathon on November 10 (it would be the first one for all of us). I half-jokingly said "Then next year we'll all do the 50k!" (which, incidentally, takes place in the park where we went running). Our other running companion (with more experience under his belt) suggested, "Why not do them both this year? They're a little more than a month apart." My first thought was that even then it was a bit crazy, but now I've been wavering back and forth between thoughts of "Actually, with 40 days in between and not that much more distance it might be possible" and "Well, sure it's 40 days, but recovering from a marathon takes a while and this is my first one. I just don't think the turnaround time would be enough."
So what do the more experienced racers here think? Could a first-time marathoner like me take on a schedule like that?
The marathon is on November 10 and is pretty flat. The 50k is on December 21 and takes place in a park on trails and asphalt; it has some short, hilly portions, but noting I'd rate as too difficult. I plan to train for the marathon starting in July using the Hansons marathon plan (haven't decided yet whether to use the beginner or advanced schedule).
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Sounds like an ideal training plan for the 50k, you'll be in great shape. Just get some trail running in.
"Able to function despite imminent catastrophe"
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I'd say it depends on your goals for each. When I do mile repeats 2.5 minutes is plenty of time to recover between them but if I run all out for a mile race I will barely be ready to walk 2.5 minutes after I cross the finish line.
If you want to run the fastest possible marathon you can and the fastest possible 50k that you can, then 40 days is probably not enough recovery time. If you want to do the marathon at 50k pace to (a) complete a marathon and (b) prep for the 50k then you should be ok and if your goal is just to complete both then 40 days is probably plenty of time.
People vary greatly in recovery. Having done 14 marathons, I know I can't possibly recover from a marathon race in 40 days. I actually need maybe 10 weeks. It would be cool if you have the option to register the 50k at last minute.
I'd think Hanson's would not be an ideal plan for any ultras. Doesn't that plan de-emphasize the long run, and have a healthy dose of faster workouts? Where as for a trail ultra, training for time on feet and hills are more important criteria. Depending on course the 50K could be hours longer than a road marathon.
I have minimal experience with the marathon and none for an Ultra, so what do I Know?
And in the end...
40 days should be fine.
Fuck it. I'm gonna PR this fall. Let's do this.
I ran my first marathon on 10/13/07 and my first 50k (technically 32 miles in a 6 hour event). My goal in both events was to just finish. I saved my sub-4 marathon goal for a few months later and ran one in February 2008.
The marathon will make a great last long run before the 50k. Agree with Perfesser on getting in some trail time.
When it's all said and done, will you have said more than you've done?
It's doable AND it's crazy - go for it!
It better be doable because this Saturday I am doing my first 50K ultra 35 days after goal marathon. I hit the goal in the marathon but the only goal in the 50K is to not get injured and to not be DFL. The 50K is a technical trail with a lot of elevation change.
You people, have issues.
+1 to that! 40 days seems sufficient for a full-recovery and into a taper....
Also, you'll definitely want to ramp up your mileage May-September, the more the better (as much as you can do without injury risk). 40 days between races should not be an issue, but insufficient weekly mileage in the several months before could be much more of an issue. (Speaking from personal experience in that regard... :-) ) A big buildup of time on feet and weekly mileage completed in the months prior will will carry you through both races well.
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Okay, here's what I've gleaned so far:
(1) Under the right circumstances, this is at least possible;
(2) Set goals accordingly: a sub 4:00 first marathon and finishing a 50k that close together might not be in the offing (although just finishing both could be);
(3) Hit the trails early and often for 50k-specific training; and
(4) Ramp up mileage well before starting marathon-specific training as a hedge against injury; and
(5) Think about tweaking the Hansons plan or going with something else to account for the greater distance of the 50k.
That the long runs for Hansons top out well short of the 50k distance was one of the first things that came to mind for me. Having read the Hansons book I don't know that I would say that it de-emphasizes the long run, but it definitely caps it at 25-33% of weekly mileage. For beginners that usually tops out at 16 miles (25-33% of 48-64 mpw). Up the weekly mileage to the 55-72 mpw range and you'd be talking about an 18 mile long run (and that might be what they recommend for the advanced plan, but I can't say for sure without the book in front of me). But given the higher weekly mileage than some other plans the idea is that you're still getting the "time on feet" needed to make the marathon distance.
Edit to add: I've been running only five days per week and that was sufficient for me to have a great half marathon a few weeks ago. I have a 10k on the calendar for May and in training for that one, next week I plan to start running six days per week. Obviously, I'd continue that number of training days when I start on a marathon plan.
I'm inexperienced in this area. But I read somewhere that you shouldn't consider a 50K as a race that's just a few miles longer than a marathon. It probably has something to do with the cumulative fatigue and the different terrain (trail for the ultra?).
in any case, if you pace yourself to go slower than originally planned, it looks doable. If you plan on running your best, then I'd say seek a coach to help you out.
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I think 40 days is enough to race the marathon, recover, and run (but not race) and finish the 50k. Your other points in the summary are about right.
My 50k trail PR (one of the better races of my life) came exactly 40 days after I raced a marathon. The marathon was 11/23/2008 (Flying Monkey) and the trail race was 1/3/2009, if you want to look at my log to see how I approached it.
I would say that I didn't race that marathon totally all out, but it was a strong effort.
The Logic of Long Distance
1500 miles over the course of the year averages out to less than 30 mpw. I am not convinced that that's sufficient time on your feet to be able to do a full comfortably, let alone an ultra.
Everyone's different, but after I finished my first full there was no way I'd have signed up for a 50K less than six weeks later. It took a good 30 fulls before I finished one and thought "I could go another 5 miles after this!"
For an experienced full marathoner I would say "no problem" to the timing, but for a first timer I would be more cautious.
I would certainly ramp up the training, especially long runs and trail runs, and presuming the ultra doesn't sell out I would not enter it until after I had completed the full and decided whether or not I wanted to run 50K shortly thereafter.


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- He will refer to his Creators as "girls," "broads," & other disparaging names (he'll even refer to a White woman & a low IQ black as "black man & white girl")
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The last time I checked, he had a full-time job in Saskatchewan.
But that hasn't stopped a few on Manitoba's right from trying to clone Wall and his success with the Saskatchewan Party in Manitoba.
They apparently want to call it the Manitoba Party with the goal of fielding candidates in the next provincial election in 2015. It would include disgruntled Tories and Liberals and anyone else who views the reigning NDP as a Marxist scourge driving the province to financial ruin, making it the Mississippi of Canada.
If Wall is their messiah, Saskatoon radio host John Gormley is their prophet. His book Left Out: Saskatchewan's NDP and the Relentless Pursuit of Mediocrity is considered essential reading for those who see a future so bleak, because of Manitoba's NDP, that their children's children will be living in dung huts on a scorched prairie. Gormley's book is part a how-to on how to fight back against so-called unimaginative, uninspired, do-nothing government. In Saskatchewan's case, that would be the NDP under Roy Romanow and later Lorne Calvert.
In Manitoba, a new right-wing party could supposedly duplicate the Saskatchewan Party's electoral success. Wall was swept into office in 2007 and last Nov. 7, cemented his and his party's hold on power by winning 49 of 58 seats in the Saskatchewan legislature, leaving the once-mighty NDP with nine seats.
Again, the general feeling of those said to be behind a Manitoba Party — I've tried to speak to some of those said to be involved, but they're as quiet as church mice on a Sunday—is that this province is in the same floundering boat Saskatchewan was before Wall.
The icing on the cake for them was the Oct. 4 provincial election and the Progressive Conservative's failure to win more than the 19 seats it already had going into the fall campaign.
There's also the dismal PC campaign, abandoning the proud Tory legacy of former Premier Gary Filmon, in a misguided attempt to outdo the NDP on just about every plank except the Bipole III transmission line.
Because of that, they believe that the Progressive Conservative name is so damaged it won't be able to recover by 2015, and that the NDP will coast to victory for another four years.
So, what is to be done?
Easy, they say. Unite. Unite. Unite. Fight. Fight. Fight.
Trouble is, is the Progressive Conservative name really that damaged in Manitoba?
Yes, to talk and to look at some in the party five months after the election it's like watching an episode of The Walking Dead.
But there's still a pulse. Its heart still beats.
Why the Saskatchewan Party has been so successful in that province is because the Progressive Conservatives cut their own throats. The lid on their coffin was hammered shut in the early '90s when 14 former PC MLAs were convicted of fraud and breach of trust in a phony expense-claim scandal.
In Manitoba, we don't have that. We only have a PC Party that made a few dumb decisions in the fall campaign. There will be no criminal charges, no public inquiry.
What's also missing is a Brad Wall. Simply, we don't have one.
Another drawback to this low chatter about a Manitoba Party is that it distracts from the real business at hand — finding a replacement for outgoing PC leader Hugh McFadyen and then moving forward.
Whether it's to be Brian Pallister or Kelvin Goertzen or whomever, they'll have their hands full enough raising the PC profile going into 2015 without being sandbagged by a second right-wing party.
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Sunshine State News, Florida's self-proclaimed "only center-right news source," has dedicated extensive coverage to the conservative charge of "judicial activism" against three state Supreme Court justices facing a retention election in November. The author of a Federalist Society report on the justices' records debunked the charge on Wednesday, telling The Miami Herald that opponents of the justices will "have a hard time" making the "activism" label "stick."
On Election Day, voters in Florida will vote on the merit retention of three justices on their state Supreme Court. The three justices, Barbara Pariente, R. Fred Lewis, and Peggy Quince, have drawn the ire of the Florida Republican Party and conservative activists for a series of decisions on state ballot initiatives, criminal procedure, and property taxes.
The Sunshine State News has extensively covered the issue in a way that promotes the right-wing case against the three, which centers on the accusation of "judicial activism." Over the past month, the Sunshine State News has published multiple articles in a series titled, "How Activist Are Florida Supreme Court Justices Pariente, Lewis, and Quince?"
The "judicial activism" framing of the issue mirrors the charges leveled by right-wing political opponents of the justices. Conservative super PAC Americans for Prosperity is leading an ad campaign accusing the justices of acting in an "activist manner." The state Republican party took the unprecedented step of formally opposing the justices' retention because the "collective evidence of judicial activism amassed by these three individuals is extensive." Although the Sunshine State News articles in the series purport to allow readers to review court documents and "decide for themselves" on the accuracy of the "activism" charge, its promotion of the issue has contributed to the cause of the justices' opponents.
But a new report commissioned by the Federalist Society, an organization previously hailed by the Sunshine State News as the "nation's premier fellowship for conservative and libertarian lawyers and law students," undercuts these right-wing accusations. After analyzing the three justices' "nine most controversial cases," the report concluded the justices were not engaged in "unprincipled" behavior. This Federalist Society report now adds to the extensive bipartisan opposition to removing the three Florida justices from office.
From The Miami Herald's reporting on a conference call with the report's author, Florida International University Professor of Law Elizabeth Price Foley:
A Florida professor commissioned by the conservative Federalist Society to review controversial cases of the three Florida Supreme Court justices up for merit retention concluded Wednesday that some of the most loaded charges used by opponents against the justices are unfounded.
Although the Federalist Society does not take a position in the merit retention races, Foley said in a conference call with reporters that her review found that the controversial rulings "are in fact supported by some prior precedent and they do involve acceptable methods of legal reasoning."
Opponents who want to accuse them of judicial activism, she said, are "going to have a hard time making that label stick.''
Unsurprisingly, opponents of the justices were upset by the conclusions of the report, but Professor Foley has remained firm in her findings, according to the Herald:
Americans for Prosperity Florida, the conservative advocacy group affiliated with the Koch brothers, were not too happy with a Federalist Society report issued Wednesday that concluded some of the most loaded charges used against the justices up for merit retention were unfounded.
[Professor Foley still] disagrees with opponents to the justices who call them activists just because their decisions may be formed by a liberal ideology rather than a conservative one.
"That is ridiculous,'' she said, noting that under that logic justices whose decisions are formed by a conservative ideology could also be called "activist." She also assiduously avoids use of the term "activist" because, she said, it has been so overused everyone has a different definition of it.
She added that she may have been too subtle in her conclusions that the justices, like all humans, inform their decisions by their ideology "but they are not in fact acting in an unprincipled way,'' she said.
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NVIDIA Enables PureVideo on GeForce 6 GPUsby Anand Lal Shimpi on 12/20/2004 1:22 PM EST
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phusg - Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - linkHas anyone found a 6600GT card manufacturer that bundles nvDVD including the DVD decoder yet? Reply
akozak - Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - linkHey Anand,
Don't mean to poo-poo on your hardwork - but almost all of your images are using different frames.
a) Galaxy Quest - differences in star placements, planet alignment
b) Apollo 13 - head is shifted b/w images
c) Friends - characters shift - legs are different locations etc
In fact the only ones that look like they are the same frame show no differences.
Have you looked at the difference in frames? If you took one frame before or one frame after on one card, would it match up to the other card's image you already have?
b3roldan - Friday, December 31, 2004 - linkhi, I'm using a vanilla 6800 from inno3d w/ Forceware 66.93.
I was just wonderin if you guys were also experiencing problems I've had with these games or if t'was just me.
Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance
- Everything's black and white. Wondering if it has anything to do with nvidia's 0x32 Z stencil (shadowing technology).
- Walls are multi-colored, sometimes transparent
I've just upgraded from a 9800PRO 128mb, which worked pretty well with these games.
Just wonderin if there are others with the same prob... thx :) Reply
Gatak - Thursday, December 23, 2004 - linkWhat nvidia or ATi ought to do is to prove a simplier interface and especially much better documentation on how to access the hardware directly.
The GPU's are incredibly fast for lots of things. For example it would indeed be possible to do video encoding, photo manipulation effects (Apple core.image/video!) or even sound compression. Reply
jago25 - Thursday, December 23, 2004 - linkShame I'll never be able to use it..seeing as I don't use Windows.
You can use a GPU to do anything. Might be a good idea to make it easier to do so rather than having to develop more codecs as that's a never ending job. Reply
hellokeith - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - linkThe article really needs to be corrected per the 6800 PCI Express vs 6800 AGP. People are talking about this on numerous HTPC/AVS forums and being mislead. Only the PCI Express 6800 has the new silicon. Reply
karlreading - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - linkive jumped through the other pages from a comment on page one, so if this has already been answered, lynch me now:
anand said he knows of no manufacturer that bundles nv DVD.
im pretty sure its on my bfg disc that came with me 6800GT OC ;)
thats me sorted then.
karlos Reply
mikepers - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - linkThis should help:
There's a link for the correct driver and the decoder and at the bottom a link which shows which cards support what. Sort of sucks that my AGP 6800 Ultra has less features then a 6600 card but it is what it is... Reply
CrystalBay - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linkRemember Buy.com ? Where are you Harvey!!!! Reply
tfranzese - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linkmcveigh, he provided the link to where you could find that for the ATi side of things. I'm curious about the S3 things, though it wouldn't surprise me if true. Reply
mcveigh - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linknserra: where do you get your info on mpg4 from? Reply
tfranzese - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linkI guess giving you the hardware features now means you should be entitled to the software to take advantage of it as well, huh?
Those of you who think you're entitled to nVidia's DVD decoder are living in la la land. So now they should also give you the games that take advantage of their technology/features too? Reply
Koing - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linkJust don't buy an Nvidia card next time if you feel ripped off.
You paid 'expecting' a feature to be 'fully' and not half 'assed' in to work 8 months late.
Protest with your WALLETS.
<-- never an early graphics adopter!
Still with my Nvidia GF4Ti4200 :P
Koing Reply
nserra - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linkhttp://www.ati.com/vortal/videoinnovations/flash/i...
Ati have MPEG4 encoding and decoding since 18/07/2002 so what do you want?
S3 Omni is better at video then Ati of Nvidia the problem is the rest.... even so, to bad there isnt an S3 in the tests.
I dont know why nvidia doesnt charge some buck or two for each chip/card it makes, so the feature get paied?
Unless this enconder software that they are charging, works on any card in the market, if its the case they are right in doing so. Reply
LoneWolf15 - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linkAnand,
I think you would do your readers a great service by retesting all of this on an AMD processor. Your Pentium 4 rig had Hyperthreading on, making this issue look far les serious than it is. Hyperthreading P4 chips report far lower CPU utilization numbers as opposed to even high-level Athlon 64 processors. So those of us with a Geforce 6800 who are running high-end AMD hardware are getting 70-100% CPU utilization in WMV9. It explains why a lot of us are having trouble trusting nVidia now, and in the future. Reply
atssaym - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linkNVDVD =/= NVIDIA DVD Decoder, they are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
Will this product work with NVDVD and ForceWare Multimedia?
The new software will upgrade the decoders in ForceWare Multimedia 3.0 to access the new features in the NVIDIA DVD Decoder. The NVIDIA DVD Decoder will not upgrade NVDVD 2.0 as it was a separate application based upon an old architecture.
Decoder Homepage
NVDVD Homepage
http://nvidia.com/page/nvdvd.html Reply
pataykhan - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linkNice comparison of ATI and NVIDIA
But still one thing is missing. I use cyberlink powerdvd for watching dvds. My question is that if i have got nvidia or ati dvd decoder. Should i use hardware accelerated decoder or should i stick with cyberlink decoder.
Cyberlink has implemented some smart software deinterlacer and image quality enhancer (CLEV-2). So i would like to see the image quality differences between hardware/software decoders available. Reply
bigpow - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linkThis sucks...
ATI doesn't charge $20 for the claimed decoder/accelerator...
And they have the ATI HD component dongle too! Reply
segagenesis - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - linkBah, I would be kind of pissed if I had a high end $500 card only to find out now its more worthless than a sub $200 card at decoding video. A bit of shame on nVidia. Reply
Guspaz - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkOh, as a clarification of my previous comment (#41) I meant that I was under the impression that normally the DVD decoding software handled the de-interlacing, obviously PureVideo overrides that. But what I mean is on ATI cards, without any type of hardware de-interlacing, wouldn't the deinterlacing differ from decoder to decoder? Reply
MDme - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkHey Anand, why not suggest to nVidia that owners of 6800 series GPUs be able to download the codec and just have their serial #'s or proof of purchase? I mean, they shouldn't tout a feature that you need to pay extra for?
They already screwed us 6800GT/U owners with a "broken" feature, now they wanna screw us 20$ more to get the "broken" feature?
We need a petition site!!!!! Reply
Guspaz - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkI was under the impression that the deinterlacing was done by the DVD decoder app itself. So would not the results differ from WinDVD to PowerDVD to Zoom? Also would have been nice to compare it to other modes of software deinterlacing such as motion compensated.
Something that I didn't see mentioned in the article is that while the hardware deinterlacing is certainly a win for nVidia, ATI wins the WMV9 acceleration category, as I'm pretty sure that all R3x0 cards support it back to the 9500/9700. That means that ATI's WMV9 market penetration is way higher than nVidia's, since very few nVidia cards can do the acceleration. Reply
Klaasman - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkNevermind. Found info at Nvidia.
"The new software will upgrade the decoders in ForceWare Multimedia 3.0 to access the new features in the NVIDIA DVD Decoder. The NVIDIA DVD Decoder will not upgrade NVDVD 2.0 as it was a separate application based upon an old architecture."
They want me to pay twice for it I guess. Greedy bastards. Reply
Klaasman - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkI got a copy of NVDVD with my eVGA 6800GT. How do I update the DVD codec? When I install the new version from Nvidia, it still asks for credit card info and stuff. Reply
jonny13 - Monday, December 20, 2004 - link"NVIDIA's DVD decoder has always been $20, unfortunately I don't know of a single manufacturer that gives away their DVD decoders for free."
I know that their DVD decoder has always been $20. But, they never specified that you would need to pay extra for a feature that they touted for months. Thats like making you pay for a special driver to get PS3.0 to work. If they advertise it as a feature on a card I am paying $500 for, it better damn well be free and not another 20 f'ing dollars.
/rant Reply
b3roldan - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkI'm really disappointed with the 6800s not having the wmv9 decoding... was gonna get myself a 6800U for xmas. I was reading on the X800XT-PE coz there's a Sapphire X800XT-PE relatively cheaper than most 6800Us in http://buycomp.hkgolden.com.
Then I came accross this webpage that says the nv48 is still coming... http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20041220A7039.html
hehe... I guess I can wait 3 months for the nv48, but then with the R520 just around the corner... man buying a card is starting to become a tough decision.
neways... I was wonderin if neone could confirm this information on the hardware flaw...
http://www.animenation.net/forums/archive/index.ph... Reply
RCIEGR - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkYou missed one very important feature to me.
The 6800gt lacks the true hd output formats in component video output. I have a 6800gt and these card didn't include the special 10-pin din connector to the hd-component/s-video/composite adaptor plug. My freind at work bought a 6600gt(Chaintech) for his son for xmas, so I borrowed the card for a test this last weekend. Having a old school sony KDP-57XBR2 HDTV with only firewire and 2-hd component vidoe imputs. The true hd-output of the 6600gt is way more important of a feature to me then the wmv9 decoding.
The output over component(both true 1080i & 720p; the sony can nativly handle both) looked very good, for both hd video(surferp****.com), hd tapestreams recorded from the firewire output of the mot-6208 hd-cable box and the latest games, once you figure out how n-view works and you get the game resolutions correct.
anand, take a close look at the reference 6800gt cards and I think you will see the 10-pin din connector.
I want a RMA for a 6800gt with the true hd-output with component video. eVGA does have a 90-day upgrade program. Maybe a 6900gt will show up quick?
Thanks for you time
Robert Reply
MDme - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkWell, my XFX 6800GT didn't come with the NVDVD decoder. it's a shame nVidia sells a very expensive video card and tout's this feature but doesn't include the software to make it work.
I think nvidia should know how it's customers feel. after all we were the early adopters. it's one thing to have a partially working feature but it's totally a rip-off not to have it at all!!!! $400 for a video card and you need to pay more for software to make it work? :(
Hope Anand can be a voice for us. Reply
ViRGE - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkAnand, check the final X800 press presentation slide-show/PDF, it was in there somewhere last time I read it. Reply
sheik124 - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linknVIDIA has really done it this time. #29 mentioned ATI not doing their part, but at least the features they advertised and are slowly deploying work on ALL OF THE GPUs. nVIDIA owes us something for the false advertising, they've really wrecked my day, I paid for something, and I expect to have it, not half of it. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkgordon151
I should have made this more clear, I used the NVIDIA codec for NVIDIA's tests and I used ATI's codec for ATI's tests. I used Zoom Player for both of them.
They never briefed me on anything like that but I can always ask :)
Take care,
Anand Reply
ViRGE - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkThanks Crimson, but I'm talking about the video features, not the elusive cards themselves. ;-) Reply
crimson117 - Monday, December 20, 2004 - link#29: http://anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=23531 Reply
ViRGE - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkI know this is an Nvidia article Anand, but could you get on ATI's butt about their lack of features too, and find out what's going on? When the X800 was launched, ATI was talking about decode acceleration for MPEG4 along along with some sort of encode acceleration(i.e. all the features NV promissed but never delivered on). I'm curious to know what happened to that, and if we're going to get something new out of ATI besides WMV acceleration. Reply
gordon151 - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkI was wondering why AT's results were different than PCPers and just noticed they used MMC & 4.12 while AT used the nVidia codec and player for both cards tests. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkYtterbium
I've asked numerous times, never gotten a response. I'll try again :)
For those of you who are wondering, I have asked NVIDIA what their official statement is to early 6800 adopters, but that has also been met with no response.
Take care,
Anand Reply
Ytterbium - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkI'm dissapointed that the encode function never made it, that was a killer feature. Any idea if it will come? Reply
Spike - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkThanks for that! I have the BFG 6800 GT and on the BFG cd there is the nvDVD software. It's nice to know I can actually use the VP that I paid for!
-spike Reply
Gatak - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkHere are some examples of interlacing artifacts when redering on a progressive screen:
1) http://moment22.mine.nu/interlace_1.jpg
Most software DVDs either blend or remove one of the fields by some partial de-interlacing algorithm. nvidia's DVD decoder does it ok. The image is sharp but still leaves only half framerate.
2) http://moment22.mine.nu/interlace_2.jpg
But in reality, half temporal resolution is lost. What should have been done is to render each field as a separate frame.
3) http://moment22.mine.nu/interlace_3.jpg
Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkSpike
I wasn't aware that the 6800s are coming with NVDVD, in that case you are good to go. Just download the updated version (1.00.67 is the official version) from the website.
The full system was configured as follows:
Intel Pentium 4 570J
Intel D915GUX Motherboard
2 x 512MB DDR2-533 DIMMs
Intel HD Audio Enabled
Windows XP SP2 w/ DX9c
Take care,
Anand Reply
Rand - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkAnand- Could you provide the details on what the test platform in use was?
You mentioned the processor of course, but it would be appreciated if you could disclose the other components in use.
Thanks. Reply
Spike - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkBut the 6800's come with NVDVD (at least mine did), isn't that basically their decoder? Other users are reporting their new (just recieved today) 6800 GT's coming with the DVD decoder on CD.
-spike Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkNVIDIA's DVD decoder has always been $20, unfortunately I don't know of a single manufacturer that gives away their DVD decoders for free.
The WMV9 acceleration can be had without the DVD decoder, however that you will have to wait on Microsoft for as WMP10 needs to be updated.
The features right now are mostly for HTPC enthusiasts who want the image quality benefits offered by PureVideo.
Take care,
Anand Reply
Spike - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkI am still confused on the "free" comment. If I have to pay $20 to enable a feature that was supposed to come with my 6800 GT, how is that free?
spike Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkHow to enable WMV9 hardware acceleration on ATI cards:
Note: WMV9 acceleration has been disabled until Microsoft issues a new patch for WMV9. To enable this with other versions of Catalyst (with some rendering errors), RUN regedit -> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE -> SYSTEM -> CurrentControlSet -> Control ->Video and find your ATI reg value. The key to update is DXVA_WMV = 1
Take care,
Anand Reply
gordon151 - Monday, December 20, 2004 - link#16, It does. It just doesn't have the full capabilities that it was advertised as having. If you look at the descriptions you'll see only the 6600 AGP/PCI-E and 6800 PCI-E have use of the full capabilities of the encoder. Reply
Klaasman - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkI don't see on Nvidia's website where the 6800GT does NOT have PureVideo capability. They say all Ge Force 6 series. Reply
OriginalReaper - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkwhy couldn't *those* sites shut down next week instead :-\ Reply
Gatak - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkThere are some facts missing when it comes to differences between interlaced and progressive video.
NTSC TV broadcasts are recorded at 60fps, not 30fps. (PAL is 50fps). Each field is recorded after eachother in time. There is a 16.7ms delay between each field.
If you were to de-interlace two fields into one frame you would loose half of the temporal resolution! This is a big mistake - especially for fast moving things like a football or hockey game.
A proper de-interlacing method would render each field as a separate frame (like a TV does!), not blend or discard fields.
24fps content, on the other hand, need to be converted to fit the 60fps NTSC (or 50fps PAL). It is nasty and should be banned. A DVD/MPEG-2 video is perfectly capable of storing 24fps progressive.
So, what we want is to render 24fps content as 24fps progressive and TV content as 60fps progressive.
Remember, a TV is already interlaced. There will be no problems with interlaced content because each field is rendered consecutively. It is only on a computer monitor which is progressive where we need to do field deinterlacing. Reply
SlinkyDink - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkHow can we enable hardware acceleration on our ATI cards now? (I believe its a registry edit) Reply
Cybercat - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkOh, nevermind, that's for PCI Express 6800s, which are apparently the only cards that use the NV41 core. AGP 6800s use the NV40 core. Reply
Novaoblivion - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkFor anyone who wants it the link on Nvidia's site seems to working I just downloaded it. Reply
Cybercat - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkhttp://nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html
How does the 6800 have acceleration support if it's also based on the NV40 core? Reply
skunkbuster - Monday, December 20, 2004 - link"At the same time, ATI sent us information on how to enable hardware acceleration of WMV9 on their cards before the forthcoming WMP10 update."
would someone care to share this with the rest of us ?
KnightBreed - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkI hope nVidia plans to add support for decoding MPEG4-AVC HP at some point. Whether it's this product line or next, MPEG4 will be important for next generation optical media (whether it's HD-DVD or Blu-Ray). Reply
LoneWolf15 - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkWhat makes me truly upset is that so far, the sites reviewing PureVideo has not take a stand for the consumers that own the 6800 and were promised the full PureVideo featureset by nVidia. Rather, sites are reviewing the tech, and ducking the issue, as if they are more concerned about continuing to receive nVidia products for review than they are for us. Who's looking out for the little guy?
P.S. Anandtech's review states that the 6800 Standard has a fully functional video processor --this isn't fully true, as the AGP version according to nVidia's website, does not. Reply
jamawass - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkGreat review. Even though Nvidia doesn't always win the deinterlace test, it wins on picture quality in most tests.Looks like a 6600 Nvidia will be replacing my ATI as the next video card in my htpc. Reply
Aquila76 - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkThat is so retarded that it doesn't fully work on the 6800GT/Ultra. Why would they cripple their high end cards? I guess since they aren't very available it doesn't really matter. Hope they add the rest of the functionality to new revs of these cards. Reply
GnomeCop - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkwow I guess they will get away with touting this feature on the AGP 6800Ultra/GTs , even though it doesn't fully work after all. Reply
jg123 - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkI don't see a link on Nvidia's website for a trial mentioned in this article. Reply
Novaoblivion - Monday, December 20, 2004 - linkThis is pretty interesting and since I already bought the Nvidia DVD Decoder I can upgrade to this new version if the link on Nvidia's site ever starts working lol. Reply
jonny13 - Monday, December 20, 2004 - link"Considering that PureVideo came as a free feature on GeForce 6 cards"
How is paying $20 for the damn codec free? Reply


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St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Matt Holliday has been named the National League Player of the Week for the week ending August 31st. The announcement was made earlier today on MLB Network.
Holliday paced the Majors with 13 RBI during the last week of August and led the Senior Circuit with four home runs, 24 total bases and a .889 slugging percentage. The veteran slugger hit .370 (10-for-27) in seven contests last week and tied for fourth in hits among N.L. batters while his five runs scored were tied for sixth in the League.
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Saint George Slaying the Dragon
Carlo Crivelli, Italian (Venice), 1430/5-c.1494
Gold and tempera on wood, 94 x 47.8 cm
Genre: European Art, Paintings
Location: Raphael Room
Accession Number: P16e13
Charged with excitement and bristling with spiky forms, Saint George Slaying the Dragon is one of Carlo Crivelli's masterpieces. Although the artist worked for more than thirty years after painting it, he never produced anything quite so full of vigor and imagination. What could be more dramatic than the contrast between the rearing horse, its head distorted with fear, and the tender saint, his eyes fixed on the dragon he is about to slaughter? Crivelli's saint is no robust hero, but a slim boy who must use all his might to wield his heavy sword. The jutting shapes of his armor are echoed in the towers of the hill town in the background. On a cliff just below it, kneels the tiny figure of the princess who was to be the dragon's next victim.
Few paintings in the Gardner Museum are more self-sufficient. Yet Crivelli's Saint George originated as part of a large altarpiece. Crivelli made the altarpiece for the parish church of Porta San Giorgio, a village near Fermo on the Adriatic coast. It was commissioned by an Albanian immigrant, Giorgio Salvadori.
Source: Everett Fahy (1978), "Saint George Slaying the Dragon," in Eye of the Beholder, edited by Alan Chong et al. (Boston: ISGM and Beacon Press, 2003): 57.
Purchased in 1897 from Colnaghi, London, through Berenson.