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AT&T Impulse 4G ReviewAT&T Impulse 4G
voices sound hollow in tone. Moreover, our callers say that our voice is choppy sounding on their end of the line. And even though we're greeted with strong tones with its speakerphone, we're not too thrilled with the choppy voices heard through it.
Fortunately, the handset is able to keep a solid signal to the network during our testing in high coverage areas within the greater Philadelphia region – plus, it didn't drop any of our phone calls.
Using the handset extensively, we're glad to see it able to provide us a solid one-day of usage on a single charge, which is more than enough to get most people through a rigorous work shift.
Power users will undoubtedly keep their distance, but for anyone who wants a decent Android powered smartphone without the hefty price point, you'll be glad to check out the value conscious AT&T Impulse 4G. Sure it might be rough around the edges in some categories and doesn't offer astounding specs, but it's almost hard to not like the $30 cost it's sporting out of the gate since it's undeniably tempting. For Huawei, it's seemingly a win for them since they're able to establish themselves respectably on AT&T's lineup with their balanced offering. Is it cheap? Of course, but at least it sprinkles a dash of solidness so that it doesn't embody those cheapo qualities.
Android Version: 2.2.2
Build Number: U8800V100R001USAc07B630
Kernel Version: 18.104.22.168-perf
AT&T Impulse 4G Video Review:
- Affordable price
- Solid construction
- Detailed display
- Poor screen viewing angles
- Poor call sound quality
- Shoots ugly looking photos & videos
25 Comments
1. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Great video review! I'm curious, how would you score this in the "entry-level smart phone" category? Obviously you gave it a 6.5 compared to all, but in addition it may be good to know how it stacks up to other entry-level's (my mom and little sister would probably be interested). Maybe an 8.5? Thanks!
2. Mercenary (unregistered)
It's good to see nice phones with low prices,but...what's up with the call quality?
I mean is it hard to make the call quality good?Like the htc hd7,LG optimus 7,samsung omnia 7...those are really nice phones but the call quality...!!!
I also liked the SE XPeria mini pro TXT as a budget phone..but the same problem..call quality!
4. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Good question...It seems these budget smart phones cut corners on everything (screen, processor, camera), including the very thing it is at its core...a PHONE. I would think at the minimum, the call quality has to be good on any phone. Any phone (smart or not) suffering from bad call quality doesn't deserve to be sold. $300 Droid Bionic with whining sound? Pathetic.
5. Mercenary (unregistered)
As you said...
what i like in nokia that all it's phones have good call quality.
3. Mooooo (Posts: 212; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)
I used to own an Isuzu Impulse.
7. Sean (unregistered)
I am not being funny but why is everyone obsessed about viewing angles?? Do you read your phones display from the side?? I certainly do not. And not having great viewing angles means more privacy from anyone sitting next to you. I for one look at my phones display head on not from the side. Stupid
8. joaolx (Posts: 364; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
For this price it should deserve more points in the review.
9. JD (unregistered)
Just got this phone. Cheap and cool. So far so good.
10. brent04 (unregistered)
Got this phone Saturday and Im not impressed with a few thing. The text messaging is one of them
11. Itzabitz (unregistered)
I'm finding that frequently when people call me, they can't hear me. I have to call them back and then it connects properly. In fact, when they call and can't hear me, if I hang up before them and they stay on the line, they connect with my voicemail. Is anyone else having this problem?
12. jodee (unregistered)
i think im going to get this phone, im excited but , to people who have this phone, what do you think and if you think i should not get this phone is there an at&t phone that does not cost too much that you recommend?(preferably slide)
16. cncskj12 (Posts: 1; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
the apple i phone 3gs is free right now or .97 cents at sams club
13. dana (unregistered)
Nice phone but battery life sucks.
14. ashley (unregistered)
I like this phone but this is my second one in the 3 weeks that ive had it for problems. It shuts off by its self and freezes. This second phone i have only had for 4 days now.
17. BMHarris (Posts: 1; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
I've had the same problem. I have to reset my phone at least 5 times a day because features stop working or it just freezes up. Anyone know how to fix that?
22. shelbyxxoo (Posts: 1; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)
I've been having this same exact problem... it drives me nuts!
15. lyss (unregistered)
have had this phone for a week now....only 2 things that I have had problems with is the call quality and very short battery life, I have to charge it by 11pm every night or mid day if I plan to have a late night. Kinda annoying because everything else seems to be working flawlessly, not sure how they missed 2 very IMPORTANT qualities....get a car charger folks! Otherwise I do love this phone, very speedy with all features, and you can not beat the price :-)
18. carolyn65 (Posts: 1; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
This phone has been an absolute nightmare. I have had it replaced three times in 10 days and they all drop almost every call I make or receive. I use my phone for my business so I can't afford these kind of problems. After trying 3 phones that clearly do not work I asked to trade for a different kind of phone. The salesperson said that was not their policy that they could give me # 4 to try. I gave #3 back to them , had to pay a $35.00 "restocking fee" and left without a phone. Needless to say I will be ending my relationship with AT&T as soon as the contract is up.
19. Thullraven (Posts: 26; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)
Been using the Impulse for a week. Wanted to try an Android phone for awhile. Much about it to like and some things I don't like. I love the customizations I've been able to do. My live wallpaper is very cool. Gaming is good. Surfing is good. Also, for an Android, the battery life has been stellar. Better than my BB Torch 9810. However, I've decided to return to my Torch for two reasons alone, the first which is a deal bteaker for me : Signal Strength and texting. I've installed antenna boosters in the battery compartment but my Torch still has a much stronger signal and I work in an area where I need a strong signal. All the fun of this phone means nothing to me if I can't use it as a phone. Also, texting is ok but not great. The text has to play catch up and errors.are common, but that could be me :) That said, I could have typed this out a lot quicker on my Torch.
20. madisondanielle (Posts: 1; Member since: 13 Feb 2012)
I first off would not reccomend this phone. it deletes all my pictures sometimes and they never seem to restore.But when i go into my camera i can see the previous picture i took so i dont know what the issue is but again i d o not reccomend this phone.
21. nateford1982 (Posts: 1; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
This phone has had many problems. I've gone through 4 sim card and this my 2nd phone. On incoming calls the connection is bad sometimes and they can't hear me on the other end of the line. When this 2nd phone with the 2nd sim card started doing that, I had enough. They wouldn't do anything for me at the At&t store so after speaking with about 4 different people on the warrenty hotline they made it so I could get an early upgrade. Its only been 4 months since I've had this phone. They waved all the fees and shiping costs and my Samsung Galaxy S II is on the way. I'm only out the original 30 bucks I originally paid for the Impulse. You get what you pay for.
23. jaden153 (Posts: 1; Member since: 17 Jul 2012)
WOSE PHONE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this phone has random spaz attacks when the touch screen wil stop working and you have to pop out the battery. it is also extreamly hard to assign a 3 to a contact that u have downloaded from facebook. i wrote this revew after my phone was completly fryed after attempting to bring up an app. the screen will also cut of if u toch the screen more than once at a time the screen is horrible at recocnizeing swipes and tapps.
25. lynn653 (Posts: 2; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
24. lynn653 (Posts: 2; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
we have had 2 impulse 4g phones 1 replced and just recieved the 2nd phone on 8/30/12 and within 24 hrs te same thing happed she hasto remove battery toget it to work she can't hear calls hen they come in she has to hang up and call them back and she doesn't recieve her text messages do they really wat to send me a new phone every week or jus replace it with a phone that works all this is through the asurion CNA an they ropped her insurance coverage becuse of claims against phone
AT&T Impulse 4GOS: Android 2.2
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|3.8 inches, 480 x 800 pixels (246 ppi) TFT
|5 megapixels
Single core
|4.72 x 2.56 x 0.46 inches
(120 x 65 x 11.6 mm)
4.41 oz (125 g)
|1500 mAh, 4 hours talk time


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HTC to consider making four changes including the use of MediaTek chips for low to mid-range models
According to Nomura, HTC is considering a four part plan that has already started with Chairwoman Wang taking responsibility for sales and supply chain management. CEO Chou will deal with product development. In addition, HTC might also start outsourcing some of its production to Foxconn and Winstron. The third change has to do with the use of low cost supplier MediaTek for chips. This might help HTC lower costs of low to mid-range models, exactly where the Taiwan based manufacturer is having problems. And the silicon slinger's MT6592, the first true octa-core processor, will be shipping next month.
The last change would be for HTC to form new strategic partnerships. There is speculation that the globe's largest carrier, China Mobile, could be looking to team up with the troubled manufacturer. With 750 million subscribers, China Mobile is a good friend for a handset producer to have,
The bottom line though, is that HTC does not seem to know how to market its phones. Spending $12 million on Robert Downey Jr. was a bad idea although the problem was the actual campaign itself. We don't see silly little green trolls dancing at a car wash conveying to people the reasons that they should be buying the HTC One. As we have said on these pages going back to the Palm Pre, the ads that work are the ones that show a particular phone in action. Phone buyers want to see features.
Thanks, Anonymous Tipster!
source: ChinaPost via GforGames
42 Comments
1. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
What about the marketing? You can't sell well without a good marketing, I can't see a single ad of HTC phones on TV and billboards.
If HTC don't improve the marketing, Here's To Change will become Hold The Crap.
8. amats69 (Posts: 1523; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Marketing is part of the first plan.Chairwoman Wang is now incharcge of it...I just Hope Mrs Wang made a change on HTC's poor MArketing.
19. Birds (Posts: 1171; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Yes, marketing and pricing are their main issues. Like why would they price the HTC One at 575$ then turn around and price the HTC One mini at 515$ You might as well cough up the extra 60 dollars for a much more well executed phone. The spec difference between the phones is what makes it a bad deal. They could have stayed the dual core route, just put an Adreno 320 (Instead of 305) coupled with 2 gigs of ram. And I haven't seen any AT&T commercials about the HTC One Mini. And I beleive the HTC One Max will flop...Sorry, as hard core a fan I am of HTC, the device only filled a super size screen niche not a phablet niche and due to that, It is not a competitor to the Galaxy Note 3. It is a competitor to the Galaxy Mega 6.3 which it has similar specs to it. But, you know, this is HTC's first attempt in the phablet space so this device, whether it was HTC's intent or not, is being pitted against the Galaxy Note 3.... Especially with its 800$ pricing...
2. D.Aceveda (Posts: 396; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
I think HTC of 2012 had a good plan. The One X, S, and V were great and made sense. A high end flag ship, mid tier, and budget model. Til this day I love the One X more than the current One.
Also variation is a GOOD THING. Sprint had its own One X variant (Evo 4G LTE)
Why did HTC go with a "One phone fits all approach"
5. Mittal (Posts: 494; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
i hear you sir!
HTC 2012 lineup was great! Personally i also find the One X and even One S design better than the current One (i actually fail to see the reason behind the hype behind the One).... I have the One S and to me its the best !
Also, making different design phones is a good idea than to be making different sized knock offs of the flagships.. i hate that practice!!
24. amats69 (Posts: 1523; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
I owned htc one x b4 and currently i have the htc one. Dude one x is a good phone but not as good as the htc one..one x still have lags while one got a buttery smooth experience..design wise they have both fantastic design.given because htc really have a beautiful phone eversince.but i still prefer the aluminum design of the one.
3. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
To all you Mediatek bashers: It's not meant to compare with the likes of Exynos and Snapdragon. Their CPUs offer decent performance at an absurdly cheap price. If Mediatek weren't to exist, then we'd have a monopoly like there is right now in the desktop market, allowing Qualcomm to unjustifiably drive up their prices.
If you don't like their chipsets, don't buy phones with them! But expect to pay a lot more for a slight increase in performance.
6. Mittal (Posts: 494; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
uhh... i thumbed you up for that but i could not find a post above bashing MT while writing this... you should have waited for an appropriate time :P
7. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
Sorry, preemptive strike as the comment was bound to appear.
9. o0Exia0o (Posts: 901; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)
Ya, I hate mediatek also. Such crappy proformance. I mean they are built in chineese sweat shops for god sakes! Who in thier right mind would use......
I mean.....Oh sorry.
I just had to after what you said. LMFAO ;P
40. artealis (Posts: 98; Member since: 15 Dec 2010)
yeah same with your expensive shiny apple iphone, all parts made by chinese, built and assembled by chinese
the proccesor 64bit wow, produce by taiwanese manufacture which is also a chinese.
who in their right mind will buy and use that??
10. D.Aceveda (Posts: 396; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
MT chips are good for what they are. Make no mistake they are budget oriented SoCs.
They're octa-core chip uses 8, A7 based cores which in terms of speed is only as fast as a quad core A15 based chip.
That being said. I think they would be great in low end and maybe in mid tier phones but MT still has a while to go til they are a direct competitor performance wise with Qualcomm, Nvidia, Samsung etc
16. taikucing (unregistered)
Mediatek is not only weak in CPU performance, but also GPU performance and has GPS & and heat problem. Why doesn't HTC use Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 play? Qualcomm entry level CPUs are cheaper now. Even some cheap Chinese phones are starting to use Qualcomm instead of MTK. I see some $120 Chinese phones that use dual core Snapdragon S4 in my country. Even $200 Lenovo A706 uses quad core Snapdragon.
30. jibraihimi (Posts: 770; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
I assume that you had used mediatek based phones, and speaking about those chips based on your experience, if you haven't used mediatek based phones then stop being a troll...... I'm using Mediatek Mtk6589 based phone, and till now I haven't faced any problem with the phone, it ran every application out there in play store, and all the highend games without any hiccups, till now never faced any heating problem with my device, only issue that you can assign with mediatek based chips are Gps issue, apart from gps everything works fine, and for the price points at which mediatek phones are available in my country, I will say that mediatek based phones are awesome, if you purchase phones of big companies in under 200$, then always be ready for the lags that will come with those phones, but nothing of that sort in mediatek based phones, and I had also tried lots of launchers and different ROM's on this phone without any issue...........
22. PBXtech (Posts: 1032; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Not only that, but if Google does make Android 4.4+ run better on lower spec equipment, then this move is solidified even more. If not, it's still only going to be used for low to mid-end models so performance matches the price point. All of these moves look good, nice to see HTC being proactive and gearing up for a better future.
4. jibraihimi (Posts: 770; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Hope they will price their Low and midrange models decently, if they are going to use mediatek processors in their phone, because currently their low and midrange model'd pricing in country like India is very absurd...........
11. tiara6918 (Posts: 2111; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Bring back the sensation, rhyme and wildfire. With just the right strategy, these products would be a hit
13. Mittal (Posts: 494; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Rhyme was actually a very good phone. But killed by the decision to keep the price sky high!
12. Andrewtst (Posts: 679; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Without marketing, you still going to die pretty soon.
14. kanagadeepan (Posts: 981; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
Its because of their pricing, they are a failure in India... Even if they are going to use mediatek chips I don't think they will price their phones reasonably...
17. taikucing (unregistered)
yeah, I think the problem of HTC is the pricing. Many Chinese phones are using Qualcomm CPU now but they are still cheap. Lenovo A706 uses Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 play & 1 GB RAM but it costs $200! The price difference of qualcomm vs mediatek based phones is just $10 - $20.
Famous brands like Sony, Samsung and HTC fail to sell their phones in low - mid end market in my country because of the price. In low end market, Chinese phone rules.
15. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Fifth chgange -- Give up Apple's greed and policy. Provide removable batteries and competitive pricing. India their phones are so expensive -- Apple's greed & policy in play. No one cares about HTC much in India. If they don't do this then who knows they would also start contract manufacturing for Lava, Karbon and Micromax also :)
18. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Funny how Alan F and HTC fans have masters in marketing now. Every company has access to the same pool of marketing talent and portfolios and resumes. So unless HTC is really bad at choosing from this talent pool, the 12 billion they paid for their campaign isn't the problem.
I think it is about time that people just accept that their products just aren't that great. It is easy to fall victim to preconceived notions and be biased towards your preferences. Maybe people just think Apple and Samsung is flat out better and no amount of excellent marketing will change that.
Just because you think that HTC should be doing better it doesn't mean 80% of the population believes that. I personally think that they should being doing worse and the people with low IQ are keeping them afloat. They should easily be in the same boat as Blackberry, moto, and Nokia now. Either bought out for scrap parts or shopped around.
23. djHidroid (Posts: 9; Member since: 18 Sep 2013)
HTC is not being kept afloat by individuals with low iqs. The one is truly the best phone on the market. Apple sheep will buy whatever is released by the Cuerpotino cult. What kind of it intelligence level warrants buying the same phone or tablet every year with identical build and an incremental bump in specs. Marketing and creating a cult mentality essentially preys on the I have to have what everyone else has logic which shows a lack of intelligence in an individual.
26. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
He is Troll, a sad troll that believe he know everything.
28. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The real lack of intelligence is thinking that the HTC One is that great. The iphone just works better as a phone and that is why people buy it over the HTC One. No other reason, especially not a reason constructed by Butthurt HTC homers.
32. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
That is why most all reviewer of the phone say how great the HTC one is? So the guys from anandtech, technobuffalo, engadaget, phonedog and many other say how good the HTC one is lack intelligence. Look everyone Tater know better then everyone. We should all listen to him.
37. amats69 (Posts: 1523; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Oh just dont mind him..tater is on the top list of samsungs payroll...end of the month is coming..payday! So he needs to double his effort on hating other oem esp. htc for the additional bonus. This guy knows nothing.he writes what samsung told him to write..pathetic person.lol
20. silencer271 (Posts: 254; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Maybe if everyone starts using Mediatek and other cheap processors qualcom and Nvdia will get smarter about there prices ( and in Nvidia case bringing them to the market MUCH faster)
21. justsayit (Posts: 256; Member since: 09 May 2013)
MediaTek is the best choice for mid-low end phone
a mid-ranger has 1080p videoplayback ability is really nice already,plus it much cheaper than qualcomm processor
try look at lenovo s920/s820(use mediatek soc) they are pretty smooth i think their perform better or atleast par with last year flagship(such as note 2,optimus g,htc butterfly,and maybe sony xperia z/zl)
does qualcomm mid-range chipset has this kind of perform? most qualcomm mid-range gpu are adreno 305, which only 720p video playback ability,half perform of mediatek soc. most phone that using qualcomm soc is expensive when compare to phone that using mediatek
atleast mediatek soc perform worth for money.

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There is some irony in Vogue Australia describing Bianca Rinehart as the country's "most private heiress" at the same time the magazine has her spread over eight glossy pages wearing designer gowns.
In what is largely being seen as a pre-emptive public relations strike against her mother, Gina, Rinehart offers a rare public insight into one of the most intriguing family dynasties in Australian history.
The 34-year-old is currently engaged in legal proceedings alongside two of her siblings, John and Hope, as they fight their mother over access to the multi-billion-dollar trust set up by Bianca's late grandfather, Lang Hancock.
Interestingly, she does not directly refer to her estranged mother once in the article, featured in the glossy's December issue, out on Friday.
However, the eldest daughter does speak of being shipped off to military school in the United States.
''I was eight, it was so far from home, you know, it was in Culver, Indiana, so no, it wasn't one of my favourite experiences.''
And the difficulties of growing up in such a high-profile family have left emotional scars, especially during Hancock's headline-making third marriage to Filipina Rose.
''It would have started when Rose came on the scene; we did have to be more security-conscious than most. With tour buses stopping in the front of your house, both in the street and on the water, to point you out, it does make you feel exposed. I was concerned at times - I actually used to sleep with a hammer under my mattress,'' Rinehart told the magazine.
But she does share happy memories, including times sitting on Hancock's knee as he handled the controls of his private aircraft, soaring high above the family's beloved Pilbara, the source of so much of its vast wealth and heartache.
At 29 she went to work for Rio Tinto, helping to build Hope Downs mine, and was set to follow in her mother and grandfather's footsteps.
''At Hope Downs I was part of the pre-production crew and drove a haul truck around preparing pits, creating waste dumps and areas for stockpiling, and was up there for the historic occasion of first ore through the crusher,'' she enthusiastically informs the magazine, an accompanying photo showing her standing in the Pilbara next to a giant, dusty haul truck wearing a hard hat, full make up and a Gucci jacket and pants, worth $2500.
In 2010 she had a son, Nicholas, with her partner, Moscow-born Sasha Serebryakov, whom she met while working at Rio Tinto in Darwin.
As for the legal stoush with her mother, Rinehart attempts to avoid the proverbial elephant in the room, telling the magazine: ''I just focus on my son, that's all I can do. I guess to try to shield him from it. Just focusing on being the best mum that I can be. It's a very hard situation to be in.''


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"Farm It Maybe" Spoofs Carly Rae Jepsen Song [Video]
This is GREAT! If you've flipped on Top 40 radio this summer, you have definitely heard Carly Rae Jepsen's huge hit, "Call Me Maybe." Well, move over, Carly. There's a new kid on the block (or the farm) with his own hit version of your big #1 hit. Lil Fred's spoof "Farm It Maybe" has become a YouTube sensation. And here's why! WATCH!


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Bernie Ecclestone is adamant little will change with regard to his running of Formula One despite the fact he is to stand trial later this year on allegations of bribery.
Speaking to Press Association Sport on the day the court in Munich confirmed the 83-year-old F1 supremo faces a trial, Ecclestone was typically calm and unruffled.
Although Ecclestone has opted to relinquish his role as a director of the sport's holding company, Delta Topco, when it comes to the day-to-day running of F1, Ecclestone's hand will remain on the tiller.
"Business as usual," insisted a defiant Ecclestone.
"All that's happened is a few months' ago we decided that if I had to appear in court, during that period I would stand down from my role as a director of Delta Topco.
"For Formula One Management it's the same as before. There is no change at all.
"It's just that if I wanted to buy something I can't do it without board approval, but when it comes to races, circuits, it will be as we've always done. It will be the same thing."
The allegations centre around claims Ecclestone bribed German banker Gerhard Gribkowsky with a 44million US dollars (£29million) payment to help smooth the sale of F1 in 2006 to private equity firm CVC Capital Partners.
Ecclestone has previously claimed he was being "shaken down" by Gribkowsky, who was at the time employed as the chief risk officer at Bayern LB, the German bank overseeing the sale.
Gribkowsky was imprisoned in June 2012 for eight and a half years after being found guilty of breach of trust, tax evasion and receipt of corrupt payments.
Prosecutors in Gribkowsky's trial claimed he sold the stake without updating its valuation in return for bribes disguised as consulting contracts.
Ecclestone has admitted making the payment to Gribkowsky, but claims he did so because he had been threatened with blackmail.
The suggestion is that Thursday's announcement is a forerunner to Ecclestone ultimately relinquishing his hold over F1.
However, he said: "That's complete nonsense.
"Everybody on the board is more than a million per cent supportive. They just want me to get on with doing what I always do.
"The minute the court case is over then I'll be back on the board again."
With regard to the board, a statement read: "The board of Delta Topco Limited has met today to discuss the decision of the Munich Court to commence proceedings against Mr Ecclestone.
"Mr Ecclestone has reassured the board that he is innocent of the charges and intends to vigorously defend the case, which will commence in late April.
"After discussion with the board, Mr Ecclestone has proposed and the board has agreed that until the case has been concluded, he will step down as a director with immediate effect, thereby relinquishing his board duties and responsibilities until the case has been resolved.
"The board believes that it is in the best interests of both the F1 business and the sport that Mr Ecclestone should continue to run the business on a day-to-day basis, but subject to increased monitoring and control by the board. Mr Ecclestone has agreed to these arrangements.
"The approval and signing of significant contracts and other material business arrangements shall now be the responsibility of the chairman, Mr Peter Brabeck-Letmathe, and deputy chairman, Mr Donald Mackenzie."


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The National Archives of Australia have made available the ANZAC WWI records online. There is no charge for this service and you can download and then print off the entire records of any serviceman in the dataset. I'm told that there are links back to the UK for soldiers who arrived in Australia from the UK prior to 1914.
Sounds like an excellent asset for those who have family who emigrated and also for those doing one name studies. National Archives Australia run a really good website and obviously take the need of genealogists seriously. Well done !!


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This report is prepared in compliance with the Federal Jeanne Clery Disclosure of Campus Security Policy and Campus Crime Statistics Act (Clery Act) of 1998. It informs students, faculty, and staff about the College's campus security policy. As a distance learning education service provider, Excelsior College has no residential facilities. Located in Albany, the capital city of New York State, the College's administrative operations are housed in four buildings in an office complex that borders a combination of residential, professional, and retail properties.
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All actual or suspected crimes, emergencies, fires, accidents or injuries should be reported to:
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BRITTANY (Age: 4)had an earache and wanted a painkiller. She tried in vain to take the lid off the bottle. Seeing her frustration, her Mum explained it was a childproof cap and she'd have to open it for her. Eyes wide with wonder, the little girl asked: "How does it know it's me?"
SUSAN (Age: 4)was drinking juice when she got the hiccups. "Please don't give me this juice again," she said, "it makes my teeth cough."
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Giants have losing deja vu vs. D-backs
Crawford's homer ties it in ninth before San Francisco falls in 10th
SAN FRANCISCO -- The San Francisco Giants keep proving they can come back. Now they have to work on turning their thrilling ninth-inning comebacks into victories.
For the second straight game Wednesday at AT&T Park, the Giants rallied in the bottom of the ninth only to lose in extra innings to the Arizona Diamondbacks.
This time, shortstop Brandon Crawford hit a game-tying solo home run into the right-field seats with one out in the bottom of the ninth, but the Giants took a 3-2 loss in 10 innings.
On Tuesday night, Brandon Belt hit a pinch-hit, game-tying two-run blast in the ninth. The Giants went on to lose, 6-4, in 11 innings.
"We all know that we can come back," Crawford said. "We've been doing it since last year. You can never count us out. We just couldn't hold the lead this time."
The Giants, who lost two out of three to Arizona, came close to pushing the winning run across in the bottom of the ninth after Crawford's blast. Pinch-hitter Buster Posey blooped a two-out single to left and moved to second when Angel Pagan walked, but David Hernandez got Marco Scutaro to ground out, ending the inning.
The D-backs had snapped a 1-1 tie in the top of the ninth, scoring a run off Giants reliever Jose Mijares. Speedy shortstop Didi Gregorius blooped a two-out double to center field in front of Pagan. By the time Pagan realized Gregorius was headed to second, it was too late.
After an intentional walk to Cliff Pennington, Gerardo Parra lined an RBI single to left, scoring Gregorius.
During the D-backs' game-winning rally Tuesday, Gregorius turned a bloop into a double when left fielder Andres Torres lost it in the lights then hesitated before getting the ball to second.
"He can run, Gregorius," Giants manager Bruce Bochy said. "The ball fell in. ... Us as outfielders, we definitely have to pick it up a little bit as far as getting the ball in. Don't take for granted it's a single, because he just kept running both plays, and we let him get to second base."
Pagan's take?
"He did what he was supposed to. He hustled," Pagan said. "I couldn't get the throw in time. That's what he's supposed to do. There's nothing you can do about it."
In the top of the 10th, Arizona's Paul Goldschmidt worked a one-out walk off Giants right-hander Chad Gaudin, then Cody Ross roped an opposite-field double to right, moving Goldschmidt to third. Gaudin intentionally walked Miguel Montero, loading the bases.
Left-hander Javier Lopez came on, and pinch-hitter Wil Nieves sent a sacrifice fly to center, as Goldschmidt tagged and scored, putting Arizona ahead, 3-2.
"We have a sinkerball guy that we're trying to get him to throw the ball up so I can just hit a fly ball to the outfield, and that's all I was thinking," Nieves said. "Just stay closed with my front shoulder and follow the ball the whole way and just don't try to do too much. Just hit a fly ball to the outfield and get one run, and I stuck with the plan and it worked."
The Giants nearly came back to tie it in the bottom of the 10th. With two out, Belt doubled to left-center off reliever Matt Reynolds, but Joaquin Arias grounded out to end the game.
"We've been fighting in all of them," Pagan said of the three-game series. "We haven't got the luck that we wanted, but I think we played good. We were trailing, we come back. We couldn't hold the lead, but we're just going to go out there and keep fighting. This can happen. It's early in the season. We have a lot of games to go. We have to keep playing hard every day."
Crawford went 3-for-4 with a double, a home run and two RBIs, raising his average to .320.
"This kid's gotten better and better," Bochy said. "He's shortened his swing up. And the confidence has really grown with him. You can't get a bigger hit than what he did with the home run. That's what's even tougher about this series. The clutch home runs that we got to tie the game when it looks like it could be over, and we just couldn't finish the deal. I liked the way he's really staying quiet up there. He's using the whole field, and yet he's driving the ball. This is a talented kid who's only going to get better."
Giants left-hander Madison Bumgarner allowed just one run on five hits over 7 1/3 innings but received his second straight no-decision after winning his first three starts.
Bumgarner struck out seven, walked one and lowered his ERA from 2.05 to 1.87.
"I felt good," Bumgarner said. "Command felt good and arm felt good. Body felt pretty good today. Everything was there."
On most days, that performance would have translated into an easy victory for Bumgarner. But on Wednesday, Arizona right-hander Ian Kennedy matched him zero for zero through the first six innings. Kennedy allowed just one run on four hits over six innings, striking out four and walking two.
The Giants took a 1-0 lead in the bottom of the seventh when left fielder Gregor Blanco led off with a single, and Crawford brought him home with an RBI double off Kennedy. Crawford ripped a 0-1 fastball that turned out to be Kennedy's last pitch.
Right-handed reliever Brad Ziegler came on and retired catcher Guillermo Quiroz, Bumgarner and Pagan in order.
Arizona pulled even with a run in the top of the eighth off Bumgarner. With one out, pinch-hitter Eric Hinske doubled down the left-field line into the Giants' bullpen, where Santiago Casilla was warming up. Casilla actually fielded the ball, and Hinske was awarded second base.
Center fielder A.J.Pollock brought home pinch-runner Parra, lining a single to center and knocking Bumgarner out of the game.
"We did a great job coming back after giving up the lead," Bochy said. "Crawford with the home run. The last two nights it was just kind of the same deal. We couldn't finish it off."
Eric Gilmore is a contributor to MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Itchy and ScratchyProbability puzzles require you to weigh all the possibilities and pick the most likely outcome.
Itchy and Scratchy are playing Backgammon, which requires two identical dice to be rolled on each turn. Scratchy rolls the dice but just as they come to a halt on the board he covers them up with his hands.
"You can't look," screams Scratchy.
"Too late," yells Itchy. "I saw one of them and it was six! Show me the other one." Scratchy at first declines the offer but Itchy applies a gratuitous amount of violence with a chainsaw resulting in the amputation of both of Scratchy's arms, revealing the dice. If the first die revealed is a six, what is the probability that the second die is also a six?
HintThe answer is not 1/6.
AnswerSince Itchy saw one of the dice, the other one is either a six (1/6 chance) or a non-six (5/6 chance.)
This means that if the scenario is repeated several times over, you would expect that on 5 out of every six occasions there would be one six and one non-six on the board in which case the hidden die is not a six. On the sixth occasion there are 2 sixes on the board so that either one may be revealed and still leave one six hidden. That means that out of every 7 occasions where a six can be revealed, 2 will result in a six remaining hidden.
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DETROIT - With the announcement that Debbie Dingell has decided not to run for Senator Carl Levin's seat, political insiders say it's clear Congressman Gary Peters will eventually announce a run for U.S. Senate and will skate through the Democratic primary.
Read: Debbie Dingell will sit out Senate race
Levin announced his intention to retire at the end of his term and the rush is on to see who is going to get in on the race. Experts on both sides of the aisle agree Peters will be a formidable candidate.
"Gary Peters vs. the Republicans is very much like the Road Runner vs. the Coyote. Gary Peters is the road runner that always escapes the coyote and he is the strongest Democrat we could field in 2014," said political consultant Joe DiSano.
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"It's not surprising. It would be hard for him to do that as chairman of the Intelligence Committee and accept those responsibilities and run a U.S. Senate campaign. It would be incredibly difficult at this time and honestly he's better served staying where he is," said strategist Dennis Darnoi.
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Unlocking hundreds of billions of dollars held in the giant Canadian retirement savings sector is a key objective of Prime Minister Tony Abbott's lightning visit to Ottawa on Sunday and Monday in the second leg of his three-country mission. But emphasising the two countries' caution on climate change policy against a newly assertive US will also feature.
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Mr Abbott believes Canadian superannuation funds such as the major public sector portfolios that together control more than $400 billion can be attracted to invest in new ports, road and rail projects, and other public infrastructure plans in Australia, some of which are stalled because of a lack of adequate capital.
The Prime Minister flew to Ottawa from France on Sunday. In France, his program had been dominated by the 70th anniversary commemorations of the allied D-Day campaign and the 100th anniversary of the First World War and, particularly, its costly Western Front battles, which Mr Abbott believes rank as Australia's greatest military contribution.
Mr Abbott wants to elevate the Western Front in the Australian consciousness, suggesting its 46,000 death toll should be seen as at least the equal of the effort at Gallipoli, with the former being a ''devastating victory'' and the latter a ''glorious defeat''.
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The visit is aimed at reinforcing the closeness of the two countries and cementing the bonds between the two conservative leaders, Mr Abbott and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
Mr Abbott believes Canadian retirement funds would be more inclined to consider investment in Australia, and in stable infrastructure projects in particular, if it is front of mind.
As such, his visit to Canada has no hard measurable goals in terms of trade agreements, but is rather about soft diplomacy.
The last stop on the current tour will be the US from Monday evening, with a busy but as yet unfinalised schedule of talks with government and business leaders in New York, Washington and Houston.
In the US, Mr Abbott will hold his first bilateral talks with US President Barack Obama, where he is expected to discuss issues from the strategic - tensions in the South and East China seas, for example - to the economic, with the White House still keen to see climate change policy re-instated on the agenda of the G20 meeting in Brisbane in November.
Fairfax Media understands the issue is likely to get formal recognition on the agenda, but probably under a mutually agreeable heading such as ''energy efficiency''.
Before leaving France, Mr Abbott met with President Francois Hollande at the Elysee Palace, discussing the need for peace to underpin global growth, the situation in Ukraine, security and intelligence sharing to address such crises as Syria, and the need for action on climate change.


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Asus A8R-MVP: Mainstream Rocketby Wesley Fink on 11/23/2005 1:15 AM EST
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james007 - Thursday, February 16, 2006 - linkHi, I deeply appreciate the hard work and thought that went into this article. I'm not a 'gamer' though -- I'm trying to select the fastest available mobo for software development. Visual Studio 2005 is a dog, dawg! I don't mind dropping a few hundred for speed.. so what are y'all's thoughts: what's the fastest mobo? A8R-MVP, or A8N32-SLI? Or another board?
+ I'm still trying to select the snappiest hard drive. SCSI (like, Cheetah) or Sata?
Thanx for your advice and for lending us the benefits of your experience.
JH Reply
htcstech - Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - linkApologies for my ignorance, but did you test the motherboard overclocked or as standard?
If either OC or standard, have you posted the other results?
Thanks Reply
superkdogg - Monday, January 16, 2006 - linkHey Wes,
Did you really get that 325x9 @ 1.300 vCore like the screenshot on the first page says?
If so, you had a fantastic setup going. I'm looking forward to getting my board (despite the numerous complaints about vCore not as advertised). I can deal with the memory issues (real or user-based) because I'm still rocking the Corsair VS with dividers anyway. Reply
tanstudio - Thursday, January 12, 2006 - linkI have a a8r mvp and opteron 146 running stable at 2.6G with 1.45V. I can boot into 2.7G but soon windows hangged. And the max cpu voltage I can have is 1.45V with this motherboard. It would be great if the board can have 1.5-1.65 v cop voltage so my opteron 146 may have a chance to hit 2.8G with 1.5V or 1.55V core voltage. Reply
Beenthere - Sunday, January 08, 2006 - linkAs many people who have purchased the A8R-MVP Mobo have sadly discovered, there are some serious issues with the production Mobos that Anandtech did not experience with their review board. Specifically the Mobo does NOT provide CPU Vcore voltages above 1.40V and many if not most people who have purchased this Mobo have been unable to run memory at 1T above 250 MHz even though the same memory runs fine on other Mobos above 250 MHz at 1T with no problem. The voltage issue is serious because Asus clearly advertises the A8R-MVP for use with all socket 939 Athlon / FX / X2 CPUs, which of course is impossible as the (CG) Clawhammer core chips require a MINIMUM 1.50V, which isn't even an option on the A8R-MVP Mobo.
After careful review of a number of factors I have a suspicion that the A8R-MVP has limited Vcore current capacity and that is why Asus has refused to provide the proper voltage options in the BIOS. I suspect after they produced the Mobo they discovered the shortcoming and so limited the voltage options because the current draw increases as you O/C the CPU, which is only possible if you can raise the voltage, in most cases. This is just my theory but if Asus could provide the proper CPU voltages for the CG core CPUs then you'd have thought after two BIOS updates they would have...
From my perspective this is simply unacceptable as any Clawhammer based CPU requires a minimum 1.50V per AMD. Asus has advertised the A8R-MVP as being fully Athlon / FX / X2 compatible and even states in their online Tech Section that the FX-55 and 4000+ are fully supported on this Mobo - which of course they ARE NOT as they require a MINIMUM 1.50V, which is not even an option on the A8R-MVP.
My suggestion is that people STOP BUYING THIS MOBO if you need a minimum 1.50V Vcore. Anyone who can return their A8R-MVP under warranty would be advised to do so. If you have an FX-55 or 4000+ that requires 1.50V per AMD, then you can't run it on this Mobo despite Asus' claims of fitment. That's my view of things based on what I see and I'd suggest potential purchasers of this Mobo be advised of the unusually low CPU voltage options PRIOR to purchase as you may need to return the Mobo if your CPU requires 1.50 or more volts to function properly. Reply
Wesley Fink - Sunday, January 15, 2006 - linkYour information is not completely true - but you already know this. The vCore of the A8R-MVP varies according to the CPU installed. It does NOT stop at 1.4V with a Clawhammer. The range available varies with the CPU and is always 0.0v to 0.1v more than the default voltage of the CPU. When we tested the board Asus advised that the additional overvolt option in the BIOS added 0.2V more vCore. After measuring several boards the actual addition of the overvolt jumper is 0.1V.
The range is not quite as wide as what we initially reported, but it is not nearly as limited as what you report. If you plan to post this in every Forum that mentions the A8R-MVP you need to at least get your facts correct. The limit is not 1.65V with a 1.45V processor, but it is alos not the 1.4V you imply. Fo most recent AMD processors increasing vCore does little for overclocking anyway. You are better off using the chipset and HTT overvolt. No doubt many would welcome a range to 1.7V, but the design of the A8R-MVP does not make that a likely prospect. I also did not need the much higher vCore to reach 325FSB in my testing.
What I am finding in emails is about half can duplicate results I found, while the other half have difficulty getting above 250-260. It does appear there may be quite a bit of variation in the OC performance of the shipping RD480 chipsets - and that there are chipsets out there that OC well and half that don't overclock as well. Reply
dlxhammer - Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - linkThanks for the info Beenthere, but sadly i have already ordered this mobo, along with an x1800xt. I WAS planning on using my current cpu (amd 3500 clawhammer) and you are correct the voltage is 1.5
Maby its time to upgrade my cpu:\ I notice the AMD dual core processors require 1.35-1.4 volts would this be a wise choice? maby ill give my current cpu a shot 1st... Reply
tmodel37 - Monday, December 19, 2005 - linkHi Wes,
Since I cannot find the A8n32 SLI Deluxe anywhere, the A8n-MVP sounds great, but I already have 2 7800GT's. Where can I get the hacked drivers? I am 68 yr. old newbie, and need all the help I can get. Reply
Ryan Norton - Monday, December 12, 2005 - linkFeedback thread:
I took it up to 325HTT last night in 5MHz increments and let it run Memtest all night, still rock solid. A couple anomalous BIOS setting options, however. Reply
AllanLim - Sunday, December 11, 2005 - linkAnd am proceeding wring some performance from it. Question is Wes, how were you able to get 325x9 with the current BIOS options.
Rgds Reply
AllanLim - Sunday, December 11, 2005 - linkWhat I should have said is that the BIOS memory option maxes out at 200, so why is there a need to raise memory timings to 3-4-3-8 when at 325x9.
Wesley Fink - Sunday, December 11, 2005 - link200 is the starting point (400DDR) in BIOS, and memory clock floats with the CPU frequency. Thus at 325 Clock Speed the memory set at 200 is running DDR650. Memory floats with clock frequency on almost every board we test.
If you start memory at 166 (333), it would run at about 270 (DDR540) with the Clock Frequency set to 325. You may want to do some reading or ask some questions in our Forums to better understand how this works. Reply
AllanLim - Sunday, December 11, 2005 - linkGot it, checked out Zebo's article in forums, my bad for not checking this out earlier. Thus begins my foray into AMD64 overclocking.
Many thnx for help. Reply
EnlightenedOne - Monday, December 12, 2005 - linkK great. Thanks for the quick reply wes :D
Final question I promise, lol.
At the 325 x 9 setting, how stable do you think the CPU would be @ load? For example, I'm going to be playing alot of BF2 and Quake 4 with this new set up. I was wondering if it will be atleast 6 hours stable in those games at load.
What do you think? Reply
EnlightenedOne - Monday, December 12, 2005 - linkI'm also trying to see if I can tighten those dram timings a bit by adding more voltage. What are the tighest/stable that you got with a higher ram voltage? Reply
EnlightenedOne - Thursday, December 08, 2005 - linkHey Wesley, Great Review!
I was wondering a few things with this motherboard and the setup.
First, do you think the clawhammer 4000+ would overclock better than the Diego?
What voltage are you feeding your ram to reach such a high frequency?
Do you suggest using the 246 x 12 or the 325 x 9 set up for games?
Finally, what voltage are you feeding the PCIe slot? Also, why haven't you upped the voltage to your cpu core to maintain stability and go beyond 2 days? :) Reply
Wesley Fink - Friday, December 09, 2005 - linkOur San Diego clocks almost exactly the same as the Clawhammer 4000+, but it runs cooler. I would choose San Diego. We tested both on this board, as we have done for the last few reviews, found performance very similar (we had a fantastic Clawhammer that may not have been typical), and moved to the 90nm CPU for future reviews.
The OCZ TCCD RAM was only getting 2.75V-2.8V. My pairs really don't like or need more voltage to reach high overclocks.
Which you use depends on your RAM. In most cases you can get tighter timings at 246 than at 325. The best speed is a balance of highest RAM clock consistent with tightest timings. There is no cut-and-dried answer to your question.
I did not overclock PCIe, but the chipset and/or PCIe sometimes reauires a small voltage boost at extreme overclocks.
If you check the OC page I am using 1.45V vCore which is a modest OC of .05V from the default 1.4V. It didn't reboot after 2 days, we had to move on to other reviews. It might still be running fine at 325x9 for all we know. Reply
EnlightenedOne - Sunday, December 11, 2005 - linkAwesome. 1 Quick last simple question. Did you slowly up the FSB through the bios and reboot, then up it again? Or did you use a windows based overclocker program that asus provided? If using the reboot method.. how long did you let it run before rebooting and upping the fsb a little more. If windows method, how long did you wait before upping the FSB little by little? Thanks :D Reply
Wesley Fink - Sunday, December 11, 2005 - linkI rebooted and upped the frequency a bit, went into windows, then rebooted and upped frequency again. Reply
abakshi - Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - linkHmm...this is looking pretty good. But GigE performance is pretty important for me -- if I get a separate PCI-E 1x GigE card, can I match the throughput of the integrated PCI-E chipsets, like the Marvel, etc.?
Any recommendations for a card? From a quick look around, I've seen an expensive D-Link ($80), some assorted others (SysKonnect, etc.) at varying ranges. Any benches of these for reference?
And if I put in two X1800XT's, I wouldn't be able to fit a 1x card in between, right? What about with single-slot cards like the X1800XL? Reply
Wesley Fink - Friday, December 09, 2005 - linkThe PCIe giagbit cards should deliver the same performance as on-board PCIe Gigabit Ethernet. They generally use the same chips as on-board or variants f those chips. You can use the x1 PCIe slot with Crossfire IF your cards are single width. If the video cards are double width the PCIe x1 is blocked.
We have a Syskonnect PCIe Gigabit Ethernet card and it uses the Marvel 88E8052 chip. Reply
Ryan Norton - Monday, December 05, 2005 - link...just wrote them basically begging for availibility info on this board. Anand's article has gotten me very very hyped for this product as a cheap SLI replacement for my MSI Neo4 Ultra -- HALF the price of an A8N32 seems like it can't be beat. For all that's worth, however, I still haven't found a single user experience with this board -- have the lucky people who have it (if there are any) forgotten about the internet? Reply
imaheadcase - Thursday, December 08, 2005 - linkIt is now in stock at newegg Reply
YellowWing - Monday, November 28, 2005 - linkThis board looks good for a HTPC, but I have one question about the HD audio, you do not mention if this board will do a real time encode of Dolby Digital on that coaxial SPDIF port. My minimum requirements for a HTPC main board include passive cooling and Dolby Digital out either optical or coaxial to connect with my home theater receiver. I would appreciate a standard line in each motherboard review that makes the Dolby Digital out capability of each main board clear.
Keep up the great work. Reply
imaheadcase - Monday, November 28, 2005 - linkMan all these sweet deals at newegg but don't have this board yet :( Reply
ElFenix - Saturday, November 26, 2005 - linkthanks for all the updates, wes! Reply
rjm55 - Friday, November 25, 2005 - linkThis looks like the perfect Socket 939 board. It's fast, passive-cooling, great overclocker, and cheap!! Even uses the ATI chipset and is built by the biggest board maker in the world, so how could I go wrong. Just put 2 on order at Buy.com. At $105 each they seemed like a perfect board for some Christmas builds. Reply
Zebo - Saturday, November 26, 2005 - linkIs'nt most of chipset in AMD CPU these days? I would'nt worry about that. Reply
xsilver - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - linkdoes asus ship this board with overclocking software for overclocking while booted in windows? what other mobo companies offer this? (I find this feature very handy on my abit)
its most convienient to boot up and surf and run stock speeds and then overclock to play a game and then change back when you're finished
I know utilities like rmclock and cpucool can do this but they dont work for all mobo's Reply
Wesley Fink - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - linkYes, Asus includes some very good windows-based OC software with the A8R-MVP. AI Booster allows the control of OC in windows, and PC Probe 2 allows fan control and voltage/temperature monitoring. AMDZone descibes these software utilities in their A8R-MVP preview at http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&...">http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=m...q=viewar... Reply
EnlightenedOne - Thursday, December 08, 2005 - linkHey Wesley, Great Review!
I was wondering a few things with this motherboard and the setup.
First, do you think the clawhammer 4000+ would overclock better than the Diego?
What voltage are you feeding your ram to reach such a high frequency?
Do you suggest using the 246 x 12 or the 325 x 9 set up for games?
Finally, what voltage are you feeding the PCIe slot? Also, why haven't you upped the voltage to your cpu core to maintain stability and go beyond 2 days? :) Reply
Zebo - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - linkGreat having spread out memory slots. I found many A64 boards stack the dual channel sticks so close they are actually touching between sticks fi you have heat spreaders on there and they can't cool.
Price!! I sure miss top of the line boards in the $100 range (Abit NF7-S Abit IS7 etc)granted this new era has high power requirements and thus a beffier boards but no excuse for these $200+ mobos floating around for enthusiants. nV and Intel must be charging crazy high prices for thier newer chipsets.. Thanks ATI.
Legacy support - My printer won't work with full features on USB alone... needs Parallel cable for full control which my DFI does'nt have.
- overclocking potential as Mr. Fink illustrated.
- full features including Fast disk benches and great on-board audio (FWIW).
- Passive cooled mobo design - How many of you hate those whinny 40mm/60mm fans that come on mobos? When they work that is.
Asus really needs to adopt Black though for thier entire lineup unless it goes in an OEM build.. I mean that yellow traces and green board is so 1990's.:( Reply
Live - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - links.
- Passive cooled mobo design - How many of you hate those whinny 40mm/60mm fans that come on mobos? When they work that is.
I couldn't agree more. Those small fans are highly unreliable and very noisy. And with today's heat pipe tech there is no reason to not go passive even on the high end boards. ASUS seems to be leading the pack on this. To bad they cant/won't go all out in their bios. DFI in particular have them beat in bios all the time. Reply
Sxotty - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - link
There is always the possibility that this one is unique. But based on the Asus expectations being set very low for this board, and the genuine surprise that Asus expressed when we reported our results, I would venture to say that what we found is not a fluke.
That is really not a very thoughtful way to look at it.
If ASUS was "surprised" by your results that would argue they are atypical not typical. It is not as though they never tested the motherboard to see if it worked. If you ever find an engineer surprised by your results than you should assume that they do not represent what the acerage was expected to be. Perhaps it is a wonderful overclocker, but that is evidence that it is not. Perhaps the engineer that was so "promising" really did an excellent job and the other people you spoke with just did not happen to know the test results.
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkI can only report what I actually find, and we can both "suppose" all day long. Time will prove whether these overclocking results are typical or atypical.
As i said in a comment above: "Asus does extensive overclocking tests on their top-line boards aimed at that market. They generally know how they will perform in overclocking. They do more modest tests on mainstream boards. It is my opinion it never occured to Asus that the A8R-MVP might be a monster overclocker until I reported my results back to them."
I have worked closely with the Asus Engineering team in Taiwan on several Enthusiast board projects, and since my initial results were shared with them after the second BIOS they have not given me any reason to expect that they are not typical for this board. As I said in the Final Words: "We would feel much more comfortable in our praise of the A8R-MVP if we had an opportunity to prove similar overclocking on another five boards pulled at random from retail shelves."
Zebo - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - linkATI "Certified Motherboard?"? Reply
afrost - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkI can't wait to get my hands on this board.....I have been waiting for a solid passively cooled board like this for a long time.
The HD audio is a very nice bonus. Reply
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkWe did additional tests on the Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe Dual x16 this morning, running at our standard 1280x1024 with AA and AF turned off, with 81.87 drivers. We have added A8N32-SLI benchmarks to F.E.A.R., SC-CT, Quake 4, Doom 3, Far Cry, and Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory.
The added benchmarks do not really change any of our conclusions. As you can see, the Asus A8R-MVP is very competetive with the top-line A8N32-SLI Deluxe. Reply
nvidia4ever - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkThanks for the updates. It really does look like there is another performance choice now for AMD systems. I still would find it interesting to see how a x1800xt performs on ATIs own chipset. Reply
Duplex - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkThe only thing me and my friends missed is overclockingresults
for the memory with tight timings like 1T 2-2-2-5 or 2-2-2-7.
The 1T overclocking performance for Asus and Abit has yet been very poor,
with tigh timings even worse. Abit has added higher vdimm options but it
hasn´t helped much. Has this changed with this Asus-Ati-mb or is dfi nf4
still my only option for pc-builds? 230/240/250/260 (/270) MHz??? Reply
Avalon - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkWesley, just for giggles, can you set a RAM divider and drop your CPU multiplier down to 7x, and see how high the HTT can reach stably? That would be nice to see. Reply
n7 - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkI may have just founds my next motherboard!
As long as prices do come to the level of a mainstream mobo, this looks very good.
I have to admit, until the A8N32-SLI Deluxe, & now this, i was extremely unimpressed with all Asus A64 motherboards.
Now the last two i've seen from Asus look very good :) Reply
fitten - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - link
It is very important that users change the default 2T Command Rate to 1T for best performance.
I see this a lot (particularly on AnandTech) and have yet to see any *real* benchmarks that show this change results in anything more than a 1% to 2% performance gain, which is typically within the statistical margin of error for the benchmarking performed by most review sites. Are there any definitive benchmarks (that are statistically significant) that show more of a gain than this? Reply
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkYou have seen this a lot on AT and any site that specializes in performance and overclocking. Memtest86 is a standard test used in the memory industry to test performance. It shows a 5 to 10% increase in performance at 1T compared to 2T - depending on CPU speed and memory frequency. Similar increases are reported by SiSoft Sandra Unbuffered and Everest, which also measure memory bandwidth.
Memory is only one small part of total performance, and in gaming 1T only increases framerate 1% to 5% depending on the game and equipment used for testing. You are correct that this won't be noticed by most end users, but if you are aiming for absolute top performance in gaming or competetive benchmarking this does matter. We covered this pretty thoroughly with test results in a memory piece several months ago. Reply
Live - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkVery nice review and a nice find!
I would have loved to have seen the ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 included in the benchmarks. Why? It is just as close in price as many other boards and frankly cater to sort of the same user group. This would also show what can be had in the different price groups.
I also find this quote a bit strange
But based on the Asus expectations being set very low for this board, and the genuine surprise that Asus expressed when we reported our results, I would venture to say that what we found is not a fluke.
I would think that ASUS having low expectations on this board and they being genuinely surprised would indicate that there internal testing does not show the same results as your sample does. Thus indicating it is indeed an over performing sample. This possibility seems just as likely anyway. What I am missing? Reply
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkAsus does extensive overclocking tests on their top-line boards aimed at that market. They generally know how they will perform in overclocking. They do more modest tests on mainstream boards. It is my opinion it never occured to Asus that the A8R-MVP might be a monster overclocker until I reported my results back to them. Once I did, Asus was very helpful in adding additional options to BIOS that I suggested would be welcomed by overclockers. Some components limit what Asus can add, but they had added additional options that could be added.
We do have a very good working relationship with Asus. As an example the first Asus A8N-SLI Premium boards (without the paddle) were supposed to be top-end. Our pre-production samples turned out to be very poor overclockers due to the automatic switches and Asus decided to rework the board rather than bring a mediocre board to market. The revised Premium came about 8 weeks later and we confirmed it was an oxcellent overclocker and a good performer. That is the board Asus brought to market. Reply
Live - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkThanks for the clarification. I think I got what I was missing. In that light this board does look like a true gem in disguise. Reply
nvidia4ever - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkIs there a reason why the X1800XT was not tested? By chance, did you test the board with a Opteron 148? I could see this combination being great together considering how well both overclock. That would be a killer package at $350. When will the board be available? Reply
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkThe motherboard lab does not a X1800XT for benchmarking, a fact we point out to ATI whenever we get the opportunity. ATI is still having X1800XT supply problems and they have promised we will have cards for testing as soon as they are available for sampling.
We have to wonder aloud if we have had so much trouble getting X1800XT for testing, what chance does a "mere mortal" have to buy an X1800XT. We can only say we're glad ATI does not appear to have motherboard chipset supply issues, because the video card situation is horrendous.
nvidia4ever - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkThere are several x1800xt cards available here - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manu...">x1800xt cards Is ATI just screwing around with you guys? Can this board run nvidia sli cards? Reply
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkTheoretically nVidia SLI can run on ATI crossfire without much trouble. We have tested hacked drivers that do just this and it appears to work fine. However, until nVidia allows Crossifire board operation in their video drivers it is officially not supported. The same goes for ATI Crossfire on nVidia - ATI has to support it in their drivers. Single video cards are supported on all platforms.
As for avaialability of X1800XT, our video reviewer received a review sample about 6 weeks ago, but we have not seen another X1800XT from ATI. The X1800XT was to be available for sale November 5. ATI tells us daily there are none available for sampling, but we can expect a unit for motherboard testing "very soon".
shabby - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkGeez if your having this much trouble getting a x1800xt i wonder when you'll recieve the crossfire ones. Reply
Schro - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkHas Asus stated the general availability date of the board? The only vendor that I can find with it listed is ZZF @ $199 for a pre-order, which is certainly not a mainstream price. Reply
Wesley Fink - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - linkI just did a search on Google's Froogle at http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=A8R-MVP+&b...">http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=A8R...;btnG=Se.... There are 4 listings for the A8R-MVP - buy.com for $104.99, Computer Brain for $108.21, PC & Stuff for $115.94, and PCSuperDeals for $119.15. These prices are very much in line with what Asus projected - in fact they are even better. A Crossfire motherboard with these features for $105 is a terrific value. Reply
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkWe confirmed final pricing with Asus yesterday. They told us the board should sell initially in the $115 to $125 range. Obviously a new board, a good review and limited availability drive up the price in capitalism. Asus confirmed last evening the boards have shipped from Taiwan to US e-tailers and should begin appearing for sale Friday or Monday (November 25th or 28th). Reply
Live - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkThis board is listed for pre-order from several e-tailers here in Europe at just the price range ASUS is suggesting. Reply
Calin - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkit's nowhere near the $100-$125 suggested by the article... but the price will fall when availability increases Reply
OrSin - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkPoster before me hit it right on the head. My next motherboard will most likely be one of these ATI boards but it seems this was fluck to me. I guess we can wait for other sites to seee if they get similar results. Reply
poohbear - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkexcuse me, great review, but when presuming that this board is not a fluke u state:
"based on the Asus expectations being set very low for this board, and the genuine surprise that Asus expressed when we reported our results, I would venture to say that what we found is not a fluke."
how are the 2 aforementioned reasons related to it NOT being a fluke? i was a bit confused reading that. if a mobo manufacturer's expectations are low, and then they're surprised, would'nt that mean that this mobo might on the contrary, be a fluke? Reply
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkI receive some emails complaining that I must receive "Cherry" motherboards for testing since my OC results are so high. Of course, part of my success is due to being a long-term overclocker, and overall my results have not noramlly been that different than what other experienced overclockers found on retail boards.
In this case Asus positioned this as a mainstream board and advised us the board was not positioned as a top overclocker. The ATI Crossfire chipset is an outstanding overclocker and I believe this board, with the design efforts of a talented design team turned out to be a surprising overclocker and that retail boards will also. I really don't think Asus as a company considered that this might be a top overclocker, but certainly someone in Asus design did consider this with the BIOS options that are available.
The first BIOS was not particularly good for overclocking, but version 2 and 3 are outstanding. We have seem many manufacturers, even tier 1, design boards for overclockers that were mediocre in performance. We have also seen boards that had a solid design but no great OC credentials rise to the top as a great overclocker. In fact, Asus has had a number of this type of "wolf in sheep's clothing" boards over the past few years.
poohbear - Thursday, November 24, 2005 - linkthanks for clarifying.:) guess it's best to wait and see other reveiws to get a general consensus though. Reply
Calin - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkMaybe the design team had a set of design cues for the board, received from the top (management) - these include cost, performance, reliability, and possibly even other metrics. The ATI chipset might have been too good for those cues, or maybe they worked to optimize the board - and told nothing to management about their substantial successes.
Or maybe the board was a lucky one, and maybe 1 in 100 will get near those results, and the rest will be mainstream. Anyway, I think it is a good design, and not a lucky board
Calin Reply
poohbear - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkjesus 2900mhz on air?!!?? i LOVE competition.:) Reply
CrystalBay - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkHi Wes, Did you run into any coldboot problems ? Reply
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkNo Coldboot problems at working overclocks. We did find, however, that failed overclocks at very high frequencies usually required the system be turned off (power switched off) for the board to recover from the failed OC. This is common to many motherboards, but it is always easier if the board recovers on a warm boot. Reply
Diasper - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkJust wondering why there weren't any game benchmark comparisons against the Asus A8N32 given the article set out by comparing them and given the numerous benchmarks with it including Aquamark, how come it was excluded from the rest of the game benchmarks?? It would be pretty nice/important if you included them. Reply
nvidia4ever - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkI was wondering the same. Either the results are not favorable for ATI or there are results coming that were not posted yet. Either way it looks like a great board. Reply
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkThe original benchmarks with the A8N32-SLI Deluxe were run at 1600x1200 with AA/AF on. This is because we were trying to determine if Dual x16 SLI made any difference compared to Dual x8 SLI. When we tested the ATI we reran benchmarks on one of the current top nForce4 boards - the DFI LANParty nForce4 SLI - to provide a comparison with the nForce4 SLI chipset. We did not have the Asus A8N32-SLI available for retesting since another reviewer was using the board for benchmarking. It also didn't seem important to also rerun benches on the A8N32-SLI since its performance was comparable to the DFI nF4 SLI.
At any rate, the A8N32-SLI is available again and we will rerun some benches at 1280x1024 and add results to the game graphs. For "Standard Score" benchmarks like 3DMarks and Aquamark 3 the video resolutions are always the same and the A8N32-SLI results are already included in the graphs. Reply
Beenthere - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkIt was pretty obvious a year ago that ATI had created a very impressive chipset for the AMD Mobos. The Southbridge ULi chip resolves perceived deficiencies by those who believe they need faster USB and S-ATA 2, even though in reality this simply isn't true. The fact that the ATI Northbridge chipset O/C's so well is proof of an excellent design and one to build a Helleva reputation on in the Mobo market. The ATI chipset makes it pretty obvious that you don't need to endure high prices and marketing gimmicks of some Mobo mfgs. to promote over-priced "gamers or overclockers" Mobos that don't deliver as much, let alone more PC performance than the ATI chipset Mobos, which include all the practical overclocking BIOS options anyone would possibly need. Reply
sunshine - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkRE: "Our first efforts at overclocking the A8R-MVP ran into a road block at just over 260. We have found some Asus boards in the past that did not like overclocks to be immediately set to high values, so we started again at 250. By going up just 5 to 10FSB at a time, we were able to reach 325."
What is it exactly that prevents you from setting up the overclocking settings all at once? Why must you increase at only 5 - 10 mhz at a time? Is the Asus Bios boobytrapped to prevent someone from frying their motherboard or CPU??? Reply
Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkThere have been several boards and video cards over the last few years that overclocked best when the clock frequency was increased in smaller steps, instead of in one large adjustment. It is not just limited to Asus, and is common enough that most overclockers are aware of this overclocking method. Even on boards that respond well to high clock direct sets, the last pushing up is always a matter od nudging the frequency up in small amounts. Reply
imaheadcase - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkI like it so much im buying one next week. tyvm for article.
One question though, the preset overclock options in bios, is that under warrenty from asus or does that carry the "try at own risk" factor? Did you full around with them and see how effective they are?
Thanks! Reply
lifeguard1999 - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkNice article! Reply
bob661 - Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - linkVer nice article. Loving the competition! Reply


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A VICIOUS thug who set about his love rial with a fencepost after invading a house in Nelson in the early hours, has been locked up for five years.
Kraig Mellor, 33, had turned up at the property in Highfield Crescent at 4.30am, after his former partner Laura Patten, who he had recently split up with, had contacted him. She had told him she was in a relationship with her ex, Kieron Wright, with whom she had two children.
Mellor repeatedly hit Mr Wright with the two-and-a- half foot weapon.
He had siunk his teeth into his earlobe, separating the skin, as several petrified children cowered and sobbed in the bedroom above.
Burnley Crown Court heard how the victim was heard shouting 'Help me, help me' during the onslaught at the hands of the defendant, who had found him dozing on the sofa in the front room.
He suffered head injuries including bruises and multiple lacerations and a judge said it was lucky he didn't die from the blows rained upon him.
Mellor, who is from Nelson, and lived there until moving to Cumbria with Ms Patten, admitted aggravated burglary and inflicting grievous bodily harm, on January 28. He has 74 offences on his record, including several for violence.
Richard Taylor, for Mellor, described him as a 'simple man, both of mind and deed.' He and Laura Patten had started a new life in Cumbria, things didn't work out and Ms Patten decided to come back Nelson.
She contacted the defendant to say she had cheated on him with Mr Wright.
She accepted there would have been a reaction, but it was not suggested she had in any way anticipated the reaction there was.
Mr Taylor said that Mellor 'brooded' at his grandmother's, was unable to sleep and at 4.30am, decided to go round to the house.
Sentencing, Recorder Anthony Cross, QC, said there must have been some premeditation as Mellor had gone into the house armed and there was a significant element of control.
Recorder Cross said: "It's lucky for you that none of the blows that you delivered caused him injuries that could have led to his death."


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Excerpt from Mr. Adnan Oktar's live interview dated 05 June 2010
ADNAN OKTAR: For instance, the Prophet Noah's (pbuh) Ark came to the Mount Agri and settled on the ground at a specific place. Now this ship needs to stay preserved for the future generations. So that people will learn a lesson from it. Allah says in a verse, I seek refuge in Allah from satan "We bore him on a planked and well-caulked ship," A ship made of plank and well-caulked. However I looked at the qualities of the ship, truly it is not a steam vessel. Formerly we wondered if it can it be a steam vessel. "..Waters gushed forth in torrents over the face of the earth" The intention here is that the water sprang from the earth. Also rain from sky, but it is understood that "water in torrents" spouted from the earth. Or there were a cauldron in the ship and it started boiling and then the deluge may have begun after that. But we have seen that the ship is not a steam vessel. It is a giant ship, made of wood, a huge one made in raft style, consisting of rooms. The divisions where people stay are separate from that of the animals. Many of the rooms have not been able to reach yet. There may be the pages that came to the Prophet Noah (pbuh) and some of the stuff that he used in these rooms. There may be pots and pans and some personal belongings. We will see these insha'Allah. But of course, it requires a very careful work. There should be no destruction. "We bore him on a planked and well-caulked ship, which ran before Our eyes, a reward for him who had been rejected with ingratitude." See "which ran before Our eyes", the ship is going. All the Muslims are inside it, himself and his friends, the Muslims as "a reward for him who had been rejected with ingratitude". So the Prophet Noah (pbuh) has been rejected with ingratitude. And Allah is giving him this blessing as a reward. On board they are going happily. The top of the Prophet Noah's (pbuh) Ark is also closed like a ceiling. It is closed like a roof, like a closed box so that the rain doesn't come inside. Think of it like as water-resistant. See Surat al-Qamar verse 15 "And certainly We left it as a Sign." I am saying again Allah says certainly, "We left it as a Sign." As a proof. "But is there any rememberer there?" says Allah. See, presently we are saying "the ship has come out, think about it" Allah says "is there any rememberer there?" We are Alhamdulillah remembering-thinking. Allah draws attention to the people who will not remember-think. Because Allah says "I am leaving it as a sign and you will see". Now let me make some explanations to this person so that his mind opens. He is saying "The water doesn't go that high". We are saying the ship came and settled on the ground at some altitude. There is divine revelation from Allah. "Preserve the ship", "Save the ship for the future generations" What do we do now? We say, it is very high on the mountains and cold, very cold. It is made of wood so if we take this wood higher, the conservation of the ship will be better. It will be perfect. Maybe Allah declared this with a divine revelation. Maybe Allah revealed him to take the ship to a high place. It came to his heart as a knowledge. He thought and decided about a very high place. Also the land is a volcanic area. Because that volcanic land is bearing active materials against corrosion and corruption. It fits from this aspect also. What do we do now? It has to go 2 kilometers higher. 2 kilometers… How many pieces is the ship composed of? 40 pieces, it divides the ship into 40 pieces. Muslims disassemble the ship into 40 pieces, take the ship there and then re-assemble. Some place higher and safer, right? Then they cover it carefully with volcanic sand from the edges, right? So that it will be preserved. In the suitable place, the most suitable place. And they cover it. This is the convenient procedure.
Surat al-Ankabut verse 15 "We rescued him and the occupants of the Ark and made that into a Sign for all the worlds" We make this a proof. "Build the Ark under Our supervision and as We reveal". With revelation, Allah reveals how he will build, where he will put the wood, how many rooms there will be, Allah says I revealed it all. He did it with revelation, not with his engineering knowledge. The Prophet Noah (pbuh) acted on revelation. "and do not address Me concerning the wrongdoers." says Allah. In other words Allah says "don't expect Me to forgive them, I will do what is necessary." "They shall be drowned." "I will take revenge, don't pray Me for this" says Allah. Surah Hud, verse 37: "He said, 'Embark in it. In the name of Allah be its voyage and its landing! Truly my Lord is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful." He says "this will happen upon the word of Allah". "Truly my Lord is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Surah Hud, verse 41. "It sailed with them through mountainous waves". See, the waves are like mountains, they are not small waves. They are, for instance, 15 - 20 meters, 30 meters waves, giant 40 meters waves. That the ship withstands these waves is also a miracle. "It sailed with them through mountainous waves, and Noah called out to his son, who had kept himself apart, 'My son! Come on board with us. Do not stay with the disbelievers!" What does his son says? "I will take refuge on a mountain; It will protect me from the flood". The mountain was covered with water. They say, "how so, maybe it was low." It was not low. There was an enormous flood. A flood that covered the mountain, it was very huge. "It was said, 'Earth, swallow up your water!' and, 'Heaven, hold back your rain!' And the water subsided and the affair was concluded and the Ark came to land on al-Judi [mountain]." The ark came to the land on the mountain. "And it was said, 'Away with the people of the wrongdoers!" Insha'Allah. See, Allah says "which ran before Our eyes". "So We opened the gates of heaven with torrential water". In other words, it rained continuously for days. Such an enormous rain. Allah says, "with torrential water". For nights and days. Consequently collected water became flood everywhere. Another possibility is that, maybe an inland sea or one of the big seas pulled down its dam and ran out from a particular place. Seems like the sea burst from that side. Allah knows best, the scientific research has already proved the flood. I don't know if that friend from Radikal (a Turkish daily newspaper) heard of the incident or not, Necmi was it? He doesn't know of this. The Noah's flood is proved to be true with the investigation of the earth's layers. A devastating flood happened for sure. And it happened at that given date, it is clear. There is agreement on this issue, no one claims the opposite. Some people think that the ship cannot go that high. You can disassemble it to pieces and move, there is nothing you cannot take. They are making portable houses, they break it to pieces, then construct a huge house. They are making chalets in Switzerland, there are houses like that, right? Are they taking the whole house with helicopter and placing it. No they are not doing like this. They are breaking the house to 50 - 60 pieces. They montage it to become a huge house. They finish in a very short time. It is like this, our friend Necmi, or should I say master, or brother or associate professor. Yes, "and made the earth burst forth with gushing springs" Allah says I sent water from land too, in the form of flood or the sea destroying its dam. For example, it is divided with a narrows or with a narrow passage. Water is destroying it and passing through, because there is flood and too much water. "And the waters met together in a way which was decreed." Allah explains here "the waters met together in a way which was decreed," says Allah. After bursting from one point it is merging with others. A huge flood is being formed. "the waters met together " says Allah. "We bore him on a planked and well-caulked ship". A ship, a huge ship. It is like this insha'Allah. Formerly I thought it could it be a steam vessel because Allah says "water bubbled up from the earth", maybe they invented a simple system, I thought. It is possible with a simple technology, it is nothing impossible. But as we see it is not like this. So it is like a huge ship, going where the waves are going. Whereever Allah takes the ship, it goes. In fact Allah saw al-Judi suitable for this, the mount of Agri Allah placed the ship there insha'Allah.


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HOUSTON - A former HISD substitute teacher has been accused of touching two students inappropriately at a school gym.
According to school officials, the incident happened at Paul Revere Middle School, 10502 Briarforest Drive. The school district said there was inappropriate touching but it wasn't sexual and the teacher was fired.
Parents of the two girls, ages 12 and 13, said they're still not satisfied with the school district's explanation.
The girls' parents left work to pick up their children after the girls claimed a substitute teacher touched them inappropriately during gym class.
The school's principal and HISD police questioned the students, the teacher, and reviewed video from security cameras in the workout area. An HISD spokesman said there is no evidence of sexual touching and that the teacher put his hands on the girls to coach them through their exercises.
The father of one of the girls doesn't believe the explanation.
"My daughter said she was touched inappropriately," the father said. "He rubbed all on her thighs and then he grabbed her by the chest area and tried to push her back."
The mother of the other student said her daughter told her the teacher put his hands on the girl's hips.
The substitute teacher was fired and escorted from the building. Officials said there are no plans to file criminal charges against him.
Both sets of parents said they will not let their children return to the school, and they want a more thorough investigation.
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Fourth daughter of Lt. Col. Jas. Chamberlain (1745-1819) and Ann Sample Chamberlain (1769-1843), of York/Adams Co., PA.
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