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Flames in Second Place Heading into Final Round of BSC Men's Golf Championship
No. 1 seed Liberty matched its opening round score on Monday, but now finds itself in second place heading into the final round of the 2013 Big South Men's Golf Championship.
Liberty once again carded a six-over par 294 on Monday during its second round and now trails No. 2 seed Coastal Carolina by three strokes.
The Flames will enter tomorrow's final round at The Patriot Golf Club needing to overcome a three-stroke deficit if it wants to claim its third-straight Big South Men's Golf Championship title.
Coastal Carolina overtaking the Flames during the second round marks the first time in eight rounds Liberty has trailed at the conference championship event.
Coastal Carolina leads the 10-team field with a nine-over par 585 (296-289), with Liberty three strokes back with a 12-over par 588 (294-294). Winthrop is in third place with a 17-over par 593 (299-294).
Radford is in a distant fourth place with a 34-over par 610 (304-306), followed by Campbell, who is in fifth place with a 37-over par 613 (304-309).
Three players in the 50-man field were able to card rounds under par at the par-72, 7,120-yard Davis Love, III, designed course.
One of those three players is day two leader Cameron Ball of Winthrop. He will enter tomorrow's final round with a one-stroke lead and an overall score of one-under par 143 (72-71).
Ball leads two players by one stroke, including Liberty's Max McKay. McKay led after the first round, but fired a two-over par 74 today to drop behind Cameron.
McKay made the turn at two-under par after birdies at No. 4 and 8, but a double bogey at No. 10 followed by bogeys at No. 11 and No. 14 dropped Liberty's senior golfer back to a two-over score today and an even par 144 for the championship (70-74).
Liberty's best golfer on the day was Mathieu Fenasse, who moved up the leaderboard seven places to fourth place following a two-under par 70 (the second best round of the day among all Big South golfers).
Fenasse was three-under par following a birdie at No. 16, the course's No. 1 handicap hole and looked to be in position to lower his score on the closing hole. However, the sophomore's approach stayed atop a ridge on the two-tiered No. 18 green and his eventual three-putt dropped him back to two-under today and one-over par 145 (75-70) overall.
Liberty's remaining three golfers of Chase Marinell, Ian McConnell and Niklas Lindstrom each carded rounds of three-over par on Monday to close out Liberty's second round scoring.
Marinell (72-75) is in sixth place overall with a three-over par 147. The junior erased a pair of early bogeys with birdies on the par-5 No. 8 and 14 holes. However, he gave a stroke back on his closing two holes to fall to three-over par on the day.
McConnell is tied for 19th overall following his three-over par score and his eight-over par 36-hole total (77-75-152).
The junior dropped two shots early, but got one back with a birdie at No. 8. However, he gave two shots quickly back with a double bogey on No. 9 after losing his tee shot left.
Following a three-putt bogey on the par-4, No. 11 hole, McConnell settled down and played one-under par golf during his closing holes thanks to snaking in a 25-foot putt from the back edge of the par-3, No. 17 hole.
Lindstrom, who is tied for 33rd place with a 13-over par 157 (82-75), was Liberty's most improved golfer on the day, bettering his opening day score by seven strokes.
Following birdies on No. 7, 8 and 10, the junior was one-under par with eight holes left to play. However, he struggled down the stretch with five bogeys, two pars and a birdie on his final holes to close the second day with a three-over par 75.
For the third round in a row, Liberty will be paired with golfers from Coastal Carolina and Winthrop on Tuesday.
The trio of teams, who will most likely determine the champion at this year's event, will go off the No. 1 tee at The Patriot Golf Club starting at 9:20 a.m.
Following the final 18 holes of competition, the 2013 Big South champion will be crowned and awarded the conference's automatic bid to the NCAA Men's Golf Regional.
Live scoring will once again be provide from Golfstat, while @LibertyFlames (Liberty's official Twitter feed) will be on the course providing more in-depth updates as it follows one of Liberty's five golfers. The Flames will look to regain their lead as they search for their third-straight Big South title.


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Alberto Carvalho, the schools chief in the Miami-Dade district in Florida, was named superintendent of the year on February 13 in Nashville. Carvalho has been Miami-Dade's schools chief since 2008, and an enthusiastic NFTE supporter throughout his tenure. Carvalho recently recorded a video endorsing the work of the Network for Teaching Entrepreneurship, which you can watch below. Upon accepting the award, he recognized the teachers, school board, staff and community partners, stating that the award was an affirmation of the work they were doing. It is acknowledgmentof Carvalho's vision, which includes intensive upgrading of technology throughout the district and implementation of digital curriculum to prepare Miami-Dade students for the 21st century workforce.
NFTE South Florida has partnered with Carvalho and the Miami-Dade County Public School district to advance these goals through NFTE's Digital Classroom initiative, launched by Carvalho himself on October 14, 2013. The initiative, funded by the Knight Foundation, facilitates communication between students and entrepreneurship resources in the community by connecting them online. The skills students develop include videoconferencing, document sharing, blog and forum posting, virtual presentation skills, not to mention all the advice they receive from the coaching sessions about their business plan.
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By example, I have 5 scripts: 1.py, 2.py, 3.py, 4.py, 5.py (some of them executed with sys.argv[]).
2.py depends on 1.py; 5.py depends on the results of 3.py and 4.py; 3.py and 4.py are independent so they could be executed in the same time and when both of them are finished (the execute time of 3.py and 4.py is different), the 5.py is executed automatically. I'd like all is automatical. That is to say:
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Pronunciation: ee-go-ist • Hear it!
Part of Speech: Noun
Meaning: 1. Someone who is conceited, self-centered, wrapped up in him- or herself; a person with an inflated ego. 2. A person who subscribes to the theory of egoism, the philosophy that self-interest is the basis of all morality.
Notes: Today's Good Word, as you may have noticed yourself, comes in two flavors, with and without a T: egoist and egotist (see Word History for explanation). In the general vocabulary either of these forms may be used indifferently, except that only today's word, egoist, may refer to an adherent of the philosophy of egoism. We also have the option of an additional suffix, -al, on the adjective of either form: ego(t)istic or ego(t)istical. But the adverbial -ly may be added only to the extended form: ego(t)istically.
In Play: An egoist is someone completely consumed by himself or herself: "Lance Sterling is an unrepentant egoist who thinks that he is God's gift to women." The general reaction to egoism is negative but sometimes egoism is justified: "When his fifth novel climbed to the top of the best seller list, Randolph earned the right to be an egoist."
Word History: Today's Good Word is based on the Latin (or Greek) word for "I", ego. The spurious T in egotist is the result of the influence of related words with legitimate Ts, such as nepotist and artist. In the Germanic languages the ancestor of ego became ik, where it remained in Dutch, but became ich in German, and simply I in English. In Old Slavic the [g] became [z] resulting in azâ, then yazâ, which finally became ya in Russian. When Latin broke up into the Romance languages of today, of course, Latin ego went on to become yo in Spanish, io in Italian, and je in French. (We hope that crediting our Greek friend of the Agora, Portokalos, for suggesting today's Good Word does not inflate his ego.)
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Re: EGOIST
An added note to the Russian/Slavic bits here: when az became ya, "I" went from being the first letter of the alphabet to being the last.
Can we find or take any meaning from this?
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Julius Caesar is supposed to have said, "All Gaul is divided into three parts." Similarly: id, ego and super-ego are the three parts of the psychic apparatus defined in Sickman Fraud's structural model of the psyche. If you are clever enough to divide all of anything into three parts, fame and fortune will surely come to you.
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A VOLUNTEER has received a coveted cancer charity accolade.
Lead volunteer Peter Carrington gives up to five days a week to the Macmillan Information Centre, at Essex County Hospital, Colchester.
He is the only volunteer in Macmillan Cancer Support's London, Anglia and South East region to have gained a Deborah Hutton Award.
The honour, in memory of Deborah Hutton, is for volunteers who provide practical support and care to people affected by cancer.
Deborah, who died from lung cancer in 2005, wrote "What Can I do to Help?, a book of 75 practical ideas for family and friends to help loved ones with the disease.
Mr Carrington, 57, from Colchester, was nominated by Debbie Farthing, Macmillan's support manager at the hospital.
She said: "Peter was my first volunteer. He is a committed and passionate volunteer.
"Peter's dedication to patient care is exemplary and he regularly goes above and beyond the boundaries of his role. The feedback from patients, family members and staff is incredibly positive – Peter is a tremendous asset to the team."
Mr Carrington gives up at least three days a week to volunteer and five days when Mrs Farthing is on leave.
He received the award from Dr Gordon Coutts, chief executive of Colchester Hospital University NHS Foundation Trust.
Mr Carrington said: "I became a volunteer at the information centre in January last year, but I've been volunteering in other capacities for 40 years, since I was 16.
"I find it very rewarding, especially when you see the relief on people's faces when you make them aware of the range of help available."
Social worker Mr Carrington has volunteered in the fields of physical disability, mental health, suicide, drugs, alcohol, mediation, older people and homelessness.
His last job was as community safety manager for Colchester Council for ten years, in which he was instrumental in developing Colchester's SOS Bus.
The information centre has ten volunteers with another 20 awaiting induction.


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For example: I enter "John Smith," and it takes the first 4 characters from the last name and makes it "Smit." It then takes the first letter from first name, making it "smitJ." But, that's not what where I'm stuck.
I'm having trouble where it asks to create a password. The password needs to contain at least 2 numbers, and mustn't be longer than 10 characters. When you enter a password without any numbers, it will ask again for numbers. If it has numbers, but is too short, it will ask for it again. Finally, if you don't enter the password correctly, it will end after 3 tries.
Here's what I have done so far:
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#Program to create security system for a website (Username,password,security pin)
#Declaire/initialize variable
sMessage = "" #message for user string
sLastName = "" #(Ask user for last name)
sFirstName = "" #(Ask user for first name)
sPassword = "" #( Password for user)
sPasswordVerify = "" #(varify if the password is entered the same as before)
sList = ""
sUsername = "" #(creates a username from first and last name input)
sPin= ""#(User creates his own pin for extra security)
iCount = 0 #(counts the amount of)
sMenuChoice = 0
def get_password():
for password_tries in range(3):
password = input("Enter your password: ")
if len(password) < 6:
print("Your password is too short (minimum of 6 characters).")
elif len(password) > 10:
print("Your password is too long (maximum of 10 characters).")
elif sum(c.isdigit() for c in password) < 2:
print("Your password does not contain enough digits (minimum 2).")
else: # none of the previous checks was hit, so password is valid!
return password
print("Too many failed password entries, giving up.")
return None # or maybe raise an exception here, instead
#Ask for the users First name
while len(sFirstName) <2:
sFirstName=input("Please Enter your first name: ")
if len(sFirstName) <2:
print("ERROR: You must enter a minumum or 2 Characters")
#Ask for the users Last name
while len(sLastName) <4:
sLastName = input("please enter your Last name: ")
if len(sLastName) <4 :
print ("Error you must enter your Last name with a minimum of 4 characters")
sMessage = "Your Username is " + sLastName[0:4] + sFirstName[0:1]
print (sMessage)
while not sMenuChoice == "1":
sMenuChoice = str(input("To Create a password type 'ok' "))
if sMenuChoice == "ok":


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Roasted vegetables: Add some color, healthful selections to your diet
By Jane Lawson
, The Daily Times Herald
Have a family story or recipe to share?
If you would like to share your family's favorite recipes, or know someone with western Iowa ties who we should feature in an upcoming article, please send an email to Jane Lawson at email@example.com describing recipes and the stories behind them. Also, if possible, include the recipes and a digital photo of the cook or baker and family members. We can also make arrangements to have photos mailed. If you do not have access to the Internet, and you have suggestions for featured cooks or bakers, please send a letter with information to Ann Wilson, Carroll Daily Times Herald, P.O. Box 456, Carroll, Iowa 51401. Or call Ann Wilson at 712-792-3573.
January 20, 2014
It is said we eat with our eyes first. Our eyes are drawn to colorful foods first, so why not choose bright and flavorful roasted vegetables over starchy sides?
Winter is the perfect time to roast vegetables in the oven. Give your stovetop a break, and try a new way to prepare a delicious and healthful side dish.
Roasting gives vegetables a whole new life. The heat of the oven caramelizes the veggies and a drizzle of olive oil and a little salt add tons of flavor.
Roasted Kale Chips
Kale chips have become a trendy new snack. They have the same crunch as potato chips, but kale has many health benefits including reducing inflammation and lowering cholesterol. Kale is also jam-packed with antioxidants.
Some parents are so savvy they have been able to persuade their children to try kale chips with great success.
2 bunches of kale
1-2 tablespoons olive oil
fleur de sel or your favorite seasoning salt
Preheat the oven to 350 degrees. Remove the leaves from the stems and wash the leaves well in a few changes of water. In small batches, spin the leaves dry in a salad spinner. This is very important. The leaves must be very dry or they will steam and not become crispy.
Toss the dry leaves with olive oil and use your hands to distribute the oil evenly.
Then, line a baking sheet with parchment paper and lay some of the leaves on top in a single layer. Make sure the leaves are all flat and not folded over or they won't crisp properly.
Pop the kale in the oven for 12 minutes. Set your timer and keep an eye on the kale, because if the chips burn, they'll be bitter.
Once the kale is out of the oven, season the chips with some fleur de sel or your favorite seasoning salt.
A more flavorful option: toss with teaspoon chili powder and teaspoon Kosher salt before roasting. Then sprinkle with 2 tablespoons finely grated Parmigiano Reggiano cheese.
Orzo with Roasted Vegetables
One of Ina Garten's specialties is roasted vegetables. Her secret is roasting them at a high heat to not only cook, but to caramelize the vegetables. The addition of tiny pasta such as orzo turns the roasted eggplant, peppers, and onions into a complete meal.
1 small eggplant, peeled and 3/4-inch diced
1 red bell pepper, 1-inch diced
1 yellow bell pepper, 1-inch diced
1 red onion, peeled and 1-inch diced
2 garlic cloves, minced
1/3 cup good olive oil
1 1/2 teaspoons kosher salt
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1/2 pound orzo or rice-shaped pasta
For the dressing:
1/3 cup freshly squeezed lemon juice (2 lemons)
1/3 cup good olive oil
1 teaspoon kosher salt
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
To assemble:
4 scallions, minced (white and green parts)
1/4 cup pignolis (pine nuts), toasted
3/4 pound good feta, 1/2-inch diced (not crumbled)
15 fresh basil leaves, cut into julienne strips
Preheat the oven to 425 degrees. Toss the eggplant, bell peppers, onion, and garlic with the olive oil, salt, and pepper on a large sheet pan. Roast for 40 minutes, until browned, turning once with a spatula.
Meanwhile, cook the orzo in boiling salted water for 7 to 9 minutes, until tender. Drain and transfer to a large serving bowl. Add the roasted vegetables to the pasta, scraping all the liquid and seasonings from the roasting pan into the pasta bowl.
For the dressing, combine the lemon juice, olive oil, salt, and pepper and pour on the pasta and vegetables. Let cool to room temperature, then add the scallions, pignolis, feta, and basil. Check the seasonings, and serve at room temperature.
Oven-Roasted Asparagus
I have loved asparagus since I was a child, when my mom would hunt for wild asparagus in the ditches around Carroll.
I've found roasted asparagus is extremely easy and perfect for serving larger crowds. Instead of boiling water, I can spread out the asparagus on a sheet pan or two to roast.
1 bunch asparagus
4 Tablespoons olive oil
Kosher salt, to taste
freshly ground black pepper, to taste
Preheat oven to 425 degrees. After you wash the asparagus thoroughly, stack a bunch together and lop off the tough/thick bottom an inch or so.
Spread out the asparagus in a single layer on a rimmed baking sheet. Pat it as dry as you can, as you don't want any water to "steam" the asparagus in the oven.
Begin by generously drizzling olive oil all over the asparagus and then sprinkle the asparagus generously with kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper.
Roast the asparagus for about 10 minutes. The secret here is for the oven to be very hot so the asparagus can begin to brown on the outside without overcooking and getting too flimsy. You want the finished asparagus to still have a bite to it.
Cutting Tip from Jane: Take one asparagus spear and bend it so it snaps naturally at the bottom half. Use this spear as your "guide" to tenderness. On the cutting board, line up the rest of the spears next to your guide and cut them to the same length.
The Best Broccoli of Your Life
Adam Roberts, The Amateur Gourmet, has a way to make kids love broccoli. He said, "If parents made this broccoli for their kids, kids wouldn't hate broccoli. They'd beg for it."
Broccoli is one of my favorite vegetables. I prefer fresh broccoli that's been steamed over the frozen variety, however, I'd happily choose roasted broccoli any day of the week.
In the oven, magic happens. The broccoli tops become golden and slightly crispy.
2 large bunches broccoli
5 tablespoons olive oil
1 1/2 teaspoons Kosher salt
1/2 teaspoon fresh ground pepper
4 garlic cloves, peeled and sliced
Preheat the oven to 425 degrees. Take 4 to 5 pounds of broccoli (about two large bunches), cut into florets (but relatively big ones). If you wash the florets, dry them completely.
Place the broccoli on a cookie sheet. Toss with olive oil, salt and pepper. Now add 4 garlic cloves that are peeled and sliced and toss them in too.
Roast broccoli in the oven 20 to 25 minutes, until crisp-tender and the tips of some of the florets are browned. If you wish, shake the pan around a bit, but that's not necessary.
To add extra texture and flavor: zest a lemon over the broccoli, squeeze the lemon juice over the broccoli, add 1 1/2 tablespoons more olive oil, 3 tablespoons toasted pine nuts, and 1/3 cup of freshly grated Parmesan cheese.
Parmesan-Roasted Cauliflower
Cauliflower is the perfect winter go-to side dish. Roasted cauliflower topped with grated Parmesan will add spark to any ordinary dinner.
1 head cauliflower
1 medium onion, sliced (optional)
4 thyme springs
4 unpeeled garlic cloves
3 tablespoons olive oil
Kosher salt
Freshly ground black pepper
cup grated Parmesan
Preheat oven to 425 degrees. Cut 1 head cauliflower into florets; toss on a large rimmed baking sheet with onion, thyme sprigs, 4 garlic cloves, and olive oil; season with kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper. Roast; tossing occasionally, until almost tender about 35-40 minutes. Sprinkle with 1/2 cup grated Parmesan, toss to combine, and roast until cauliflower is tender, 10-12 minutes longer.
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Time for government to show all families deserve protection
Postedon Feb 01, 2011 at 06:30 am
A recent study by The Williams Institute showing the South to be home to more gay parents than any other region in the nation demonstrates clearly why winning the freedom to marry nationally is crucial to gay and lesbian families.
Deconstructing an anti-marriage argument
Postedon Jan 25, 2011 at 01:45 pm
Freedom to Marry Online Content Manager, Josh Bell, debunks one of the arguments marriage opponents use to justify continuing to exclude same-sex couples from marriage.
Gay Parents of All Types in All Places
Postedon Jan 24, 2011 at 01:16 pm
If you had to guess which cities have the biggest percentage of gay and lesbian couples raising kids, you might say New York, San Francisco, or Los Angeles – but you'd be wrong. The top spot is San Antonio, Texas.
Parenting by gays more common in the south, census shows
Postedon Jan 19, 2011 at 12:45 pm
According to census data, child rearing among same-sex couples is more common in the South than in any other region of the country.
Change in passport language is boon to gay rights activists
Postedon Jan 12, 2011 at 03:00 pm
Riding the momentum from the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell," and the State Department's adoption of more gender-neutral language on passport applications, gay rights activists are pressing for more changes to federal policies that are unfavorable for the LGBT community.
Immigration overhaul could leave gay couples out
Postedon Sep 13, 2010 at 10:30 am
Though five states and D.C. issue marriage licenses to gay couples, a large number of the 24,000 so-called binational couples in long-term relationships live in states that do not allow or recognize gay marriage, and federal immigration laws do not allow sponsorship of foreign-born spouses for same-sex couples as they do for heterosexual U.S. citizens.
Worlds apart
Postedon Jun 11, 2010 at 05:10 pm
Federal law gives gay citizens with foreign partners tough choices: Leave the U.S.A. Lose your love. Break the law.
Gay couple get a boost in winning bid to reunite
Postedon Jun 04, 2010 at 01:58 pm
Married couple Tim Coco and Genesio Oliveira were reunited on Wednesday after federal immigration officials granted Oliveira permission to stay in the U.S. for one year on humanitarian grounds.
Op-Ed: Yes, protect marriage. Let same-sex couples wed.
Postedon May 11, 2010 at 07:00 am
Dale Carpenter criticizes anti-gay comments by Archbishop John C. Nienstedt and advocates for marriage equality in Minnesota: "The welfare of gay persons and their children is a material and moral concern for every humane and civilized citizen."
The archbishop's fears about damage to families and children are misdirected.
Video: Star Trek's George Takei and husband: Check married 'if you consider yourself married'
Postedon Apr 06, 2010 at 09:54 am
The U.S. Census Bureau released a video on Monday featuring Freedom to Marry Voice for Equality, George Takei, and his partner advising same-sex couples to choose "married'' status if that's how they view their relationships.


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Asus Announces ROG ARES II Video Card: Dual Radeon HD 7970GE On A Single Cardby Ryan Smith on 1/7/2013 1:00 PM EST
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martyrant - Monday, January 07, 2013 - linkI mean I won't state all the obvious reasons, but it boggles my mind that people would buy into this for collectability. Reply
arleneramsey5 - Monday, January 07, 2013 - linkuptil I looked at the draft which said $8516, I didnt believe that...my... father in law woz actualey making money parttime from their laptop.. there brothers friend has done this 4 only 6 months and just paid for the loans on their appartment and got a new BMW 5-series. we looked here...MoneyHotspot.MEL7.comTRY it Reply
CeriseCogburn - Thursday, January 10, 2013 - linkFigures with how greedy the corporate pig AMD is and how little they care about endusers.
They will probably rebadge this soon nough for another round of sales. Reply
ThatGuy89 - Thursday, February 20, 2014 - linkThis is Asus making the card, not AMD, and this card wouldn't make either of them "corporate pigs". Reply
IanCutress - Monday, January 07, 2013 - linkI'll take two. Pretty please. Though $1500 is harsh no matter which way it comes out. I'd like to see a single GPU CLC out of the box from ASUS, just to find where they would place it in the market and at how much. Reply
CaptainDoug - Monday, January 07, 2013 - linkDo want. This really opens up the possibilities of throwing a dual slot card into a mATX case. Great idea. An actual portable powerhouse. LAN party anybody? Reply
creed3020 - Monday, January 07, 2013 - linkLoving the TDP numbers!
These cards are all monsters but nice to see another CLC solution for a GPU. I find these very interesting and hope we are the beginning of a trend for more of these on the market. I'm not interested in the high end products but the trickle down affect on mid range GPUs. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - linkLOL - Of course, since the 7900 series is a gigantic sucking electric power plant destroyer compared to the NVidia GTX600 series, why of course you'd love the power numbers....
So, 1500 bucks is going to trickle down how ? A Lambourghini has more chance of affecting your Ford focus' price.
Anyway, it was a nice bit of amd fanboyism. Congrats on that. Reply
vanwazltoff - Monday, January 07, 2013 - linkthat is the question Reply
Farkus - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - linkAs a total video card fanatic I purchased two Asus 5970's a couple years back. Just keeping these from crashing was a constant effort. Asus finally released a driver that upped the 2D clocks so it wouldn't crash to the desktop (and you shouldn't have to tweak the profile to do so). I'm pretty sure there was a cold-bug; once up to heat, they ran pretty fair. If you try to keep the drivers updated, this feature was not available from ATI - crash, crash, crash. The voltage tweaking utility just plain failed. I could not overclock these cards in the least! Not to mention the hit you took from each card being UNDERCLOCKED from standard 850 Mhz to a paltry 725 Mhz so it would adhere to PCI 2.0 power draw specs. Just buy two 7970s as I have now and you will just fine and have some extra cash. When they did work, it was like sending your grandmother out against the defensive line of an NFL team though - a slow grinding plow through anything. But not again. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - linkFanatic, and amd fanboy, wow whoda known. Reply
ThatGuy89 - Thursday, February 20, 2014 - linkHe is arguing AGAINST AMD he's not a fanboy! Reply
pensive69 - Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - linka nice piece of design ...when something with 8B+ transistors inside is this well done by a large firm i'm a smiling GPU lover indeed. Reply


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Heartthrob Cookies Recipe
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- 2 cups butter-flavored shortening
- 2 cups sugar
- 2 eggs
- 2 teaspoons vanilla extract
- 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon peppermint extract
- 4 cups all-purpose flour
- 1 teaspoon baking powder
- 1/4 teaspoon salt
- 15 drops red food coloring
- Red decorating gel
- In a large bowl, cream shortening and sugar. Add eggs, one at a time, beating well after each addition. Beat in extracts. Combine the flour, baking powder and salt; gradually add to the creamed mixture. Divide dough in half. Tint one portion pink; leave remaining dough white. Cover and refrigerate for 1 hour or until easy to handle.
- On a floured surface, roll out each portion of dough to 1/4-in. thickness. Cut out hearts with a small heart-shaped cookie cutter dipped in flour.
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I now tested Ettercap GTK on BT4.
I joined my test wep network with one PC and on the other one I connected with BT4 to ettercap.
I choose MTM, netmask etc. like always and went on my PC to a website from which I know that the Password is shown in ettercap. (studivz.net]studiVZ | Bist Du schon drin?[/url])
But nothing happens in etterccap using BT4.
With BT3, no Problem. The Certificate Failure appears and if you try to load the website again, the password is shown in ettercap.
Are there Problems in BT4?
I`m even wondering wheres my MDK3 ?
looks like ettercap has problems sniffing the ssl password. I did try using the ettercap and with the following command:
ettercap -Tqi ath0 -l sslpasswd -M arp:remote /gateway-ip/ /victim-ip/
The ssl certificate warning does show up but no password was captured.
Note: i did modify the /etc/etter.conf
Use the write-up by g0tmi1k to use sslstrip to strip the certificate and leave it in plaintext.
[Video+Tutorial] How to: Crack snifff SSL / HTTPS (sslstrip)
EDIT: Sorry, didn't saw that the link was already posted.
Hope it will work fine in the final BT4 Version soon.
Good O'l Ettercap works fine in bt3 but not getting ssl data in bt4. If anyone finds a workaround please let me know! I will post if I find one myself.
I am having also the same problem with ssl
Let's hope they will fix it in the final version.


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Whither 3DMark—Updates on the Cross-Platform Launchby Jarred Walton on 1/23/2013 5:24 PM EST
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ltcommanderdata - Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - linkHave you heard whether Futuremark intends to do anything with OpenGL ES 3.0? In terms of 3DMark showing off and testing the latest and greatest in graphics, it really should be at the forefront of OpenGL ES 3.0 adoption. Any change that Cloud Gate, the DirectX 10 benchmark, will eventually be ported to OpenGL ES 3.0 and mobile? PowerVR Rogue and ARM Midgard, perhaps Adreno 330 too, are all DX10+ compliant so they support geometry shaders even though OpenGL ES 3.0 doesn't mandate them. So if Cloud Gate does use geometry shaders Futuremark can just require the OES3.0 extension be present.
In terms of optimizations for smartphone platforms, do we have a sense of whether mobile GPU drivers are overly optimizing specifically for benchmarks like GLBenchmark and soon 3DMark such that they aren't a good reflection of general game performance? Without the easy ability to swap drivers or GPUs it'd probably be hard to catch. Reply
red_dog007 - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkAs far as 3DMark supporting OpenGL ES3.0, that is sadly an official negative from Futuremark. The specs were finalized too late or something a long those lines for them to include it.
Would be nice if GLBenchmark would release 3.0 to the public! Reply
karasaj - Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - linkThis reminds me of Blizzard's fantastic "Soon ™" timeframe :) Reply
Luminair - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkLike Blizzard, 3dmark came to this policy after john carmack's famous "done when its done" line. Romantic, but failing to deliver is a consequence of being bad at business. Reply
rs2 - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkNo, it's a consequence of putting quality first and not being willing to publish buggy software for the sake of meeting a deadline. Reply
silverblue - Monday, January 28, 2013 - linkCertainly better than Mark Rein's infamous "two weeks" as regards the UT2003 demo. Reply
zsero - Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - linkJarred, Geeks3D has gone multi-platform recently. Check out GpuTest and GLSL Hacker (just came out a few days ago):
Maybe you can make a 3 platform video gaming comparison one day? Things are getting more and more interesting now that Valve has confirmed the Steambox! Reply
cityuser - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkeach time when futuremark delay it's 3dmark, we suspect that nVidia was involved.
maybe futuremark work with nVidia to descale the performance of AMD card again. Reply
powerarmour - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkWell, there is always Catzilla in the mean time! Reply
CharonPDX - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkESPECIALLY on mobile.
Yeah, it's nice to know that a Nexus 10 can render 1920x1080 faster than an iPad 3, but since the iPad 3 has a lower native resolution than the Nexus 10, it might be faster at native. And for games on mobile, that's all that matters. Reply
killerroach - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkThat being said, it's better than nothing. (Also, since either could render at resolutions other than native, it's not simply an academic consideration.)
Even still, it should be possible to run a custom test at native resolution, not just the demo spec. Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkOf course, iPad 2 is actually 2048x1536...I assume you meant iPad 2? And I think there will be an option to run custom resolutions, as has been in the past -- the defaults will simply be set resolutions with scaling. Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkErg... that was iPad 3 on the first line, obviously. :-) This new keyboard has arranged the keys such that I screw up numbers on a regular basis. Reply
MrSpadge - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkIMO rendering internally at a (possibly) lower resolution and upscaling to the display resolution later is what mobile gaming really needs. Add UI elements at native resolution later on. This would especially help with the insane resolutions of modern fancy gadgets. In no way are their GPUs powerful enough to make proper use of this resolution anyway (except for light use.. but we don't need to talk about this anyway, right?) Reply
MrSpadge - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - linkForgot: this would also be really helpful for notebook gaming and IGPs. Someone showed it at some tech show already, but I didn't hear anything since then. Reply


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Ha! I haven't seen that flick in a while. That's definitely not one of the scenes that stand out, when I previously thought of that movie. Of course it will now.
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Hi guys,
Just signed up to the forum today so thought I would say Hi.
Looked like an interesting forum to join with some cool members and some good info.
I need some help trying to crack some networks, so where is the best place to start?
One official hello to the world!
Call me thuglife.
I first touched linux when I was 14 years old. I was using some buggy redhat.. :p
I've established my first DCC connection on EPiC and talked to IRC bots, one year after I became an operator of some major ircnet channels and had a lot of irc bots lol..
That was kind the beginning of the "attraction", if you know what I mean ;)
Basically, I was "living" on ircnet and efnet until 2004. I rejoined the IRC life this year again to grab more informations..
And that's also why I'm here. To learn, to help and to amuse you ;)
..and not to forget, to show respect to the remote-exploit crew and the gorgeous backtrack, without my life would be totally boring.
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Thanks for listening ;)
Hi guys,
Just signed up to the forum today so thought I would say Hi.
Looked like an interesting forum to join with some cool members and some good info.
I need some help trying to crack some networks, so where is the best place to start?
Get ready for a long one. My handle is pwnbait, has been for some years. I'm 23 and I'm living in my mother's basement. :-P Sounds like a cliche, right? Well, let's just say I've been across the country and back, more times in the past few years than I care to remember, and have decided to help my poor, "disabled" mother with what seems to be her 5 mouths that I have to either feed or listen to at any given time. My mother argues with me on such fundamental topics like the capacity of her 1TB external HD. She knows nowhere near as much about computers as she would like to think, so, during my stay, our modem and any other piece of data-capable electronics I could get any kind of access to have become my playground, and I am about to see how secure her copy of Windows 7 actually is. It threw both myself and Kon-Boot for a loop. I'm guessing that it's due to 64-bit issues. It could be the shock the computer felt when I rerouted all traffic on the network except mine to tubgirl because her torrents (who needs 350 GB of bad porn?) were stealing what little bandwidth I could leach from our crap ISP, but that doesn't seem likely. I've always been into the social engineering aspect of security auditing, myself. It started in third grade, when I discovered the school computers had passwords. I was always watching my teacher's screen and hands, and asking all of the wrong(/right?) questions. Most kids took a half hour for a test, mine was done in 3-5 minutes, and I had nothing else to do but watch my teacher or read a dictionary. Once I had the information, I taught myself how to use computers, and was eventually put in the podunk, white-bread equivalent to a talented and gifted program. Now, I'm beginning to come to the realization that an Associate degree isn't worth the paper to wipe with, if you can't find a job in the field, and an A+ certification isn't going to get you one anywhere but a call center. Having a solid background in desktop systems, repair, and remote support, a few years ago, I decided it was time to get more advanced and started working with Linux in earnest, because I saw the potential back in '99 when I first saw PPC Linux argue with my iMac. At this point, I'm turning my hacktop into a cracktop and trying to shake the cruft out of my brain before the warm, liquid goo phase, because I haven't been in the field in over 2 years and have been confusing cat with echo and && with | . I don't know what kind of contributor I will be to the forum, as it looks like there's a lot here, and a good amount of it is still over my head, and a new distro to boot, but I'll try to do my best in whatever free time and silence I can get. I'll be using Back|Track as my primary OS, now. Man, I was surprised to see that the following broke Ubuntu after adding the BT4 repositories: su chroot /mnt/backtrack && dpkg --get-selections && exit dpkg --set-selections dselect Finally, something to think about: I can see the mountain from here. I could climb it if I wanted to get shot. "They" dug more than 2 miles into it and hollowed a significant portion out just so "they" could bury "stuff" in it. I live in an area with highly classified equipment and highly-cleared personnel, ready for DEFCON changes, planetary bombardment, and nuclear fallout. We have a military presence here, of that there is no doubt; I saw Chinooks flying overhead all day, yesterday. However, if this town is home to some of the most secure computers on the planet, with an ever-vigilant guard, why is it I can walk down the street wardriving, with a three gram joint burning away like the routing tables of whomever in this town that has yet to take the lesson in security and turn their gateway into a vagina dentata, and not a single officer of any kind of law but "Hey man, let me hit that shit" will bother me? Welcome to Amurka.
Well just to say hi like the rest of newbies. I am totally new to bt and linux so let me go to the idiots corner and read some, then to some beginners guides .
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A BRAVE young boy from Marlow got the chance to talk football with royalty yesterday while in hospital awaiting surgery.
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The Civic manufacturer was hit with its first prosecution over an incident in February last year where employee Cesar Santos lost the index finger and most of the middle finger on his right hand while working to repair some machinery.
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A spokesman for Honda said: "On 11 February 2012 Mr Cesar Santos, a die maintenance associate working in the Press and Stamping Department at Honda of the UK Manufacturing Ltd (HUM), was injured while polishing a metal locating pin on a lathe using emery cloth.
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Salama ibn Zufar relates: "When one said 'Hazrat Mahdi (as) has appeared' one day when he was near Hudhayfa, Hudhayfa said: "If Hazrat Mahdi (as) has appeared, you are people close to the time of the Messenger of Allah (saas) and his companions are still living among you. In that case, you will be very happy and contended people. But no, this is not true, HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) WILL APPEAR WHEN PEOPLE ARE WEARIED OF EVIL, SAVAGERY AND OPPRESSION AND WHEN NO PERSON LIVING IN RECLUSION IS AS GREAT OR LOVED AS HIM." (As-Suyuti, Al-Hawi Lil-Fatawi, Vol. 2, p. 159)
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SilverStone Sugo SG09 Case Review: Someone at SilverStone Loves Tetrisby Dustin Sklavos on 10/20/2012 6:35 PM EST
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EnzoFX - Saturday, October 20, 2012 - linkIs it me or does that look like a TJ-08E that was needlessly made ugly externally.
As for going with a slim ODD, I applaud whenever cases do this. This is a must in an ITX form factor IMO, since it's all about saving space. Not so much large ITX cases however, so to each his own. Though I will argue that there is some merit in saying a full size ODD is more practical for someone trying to save money or whatever, HOWEVER, is it not more logical that they may not even use one? Hence I'd rather let the small ODD be wasted space, as opposed to dedicated much more of it to a full sized one. Optical drives are on the decline are they not? Unless this is your only computer in the house, leave ripping to another computer and save money by ditching the ODD. Reply
MadAd - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkI agree, Ive just done a build in a TJ08 with a full size optical, three standard HDD, one SSD (and i didnt use the drive cage at all,threw it out), an 11.5" dual fan graphics card, sound card etc, i threw out the silverstone fan and used a TY150, and also a H60 with a silent typhoon doing double duty as a rad cooler and exhaust fan - sounds hot? its not - cant get cpu over 53 degrees no matter what i throw at it, and its virtually silent
Looking over the review makes wonder what on earth they were thinking, its ugly, noisy, wider than the 08 and no little cut out tabs all over the back to aid cable routing - for me that was the star feature of the 08 and theres not one on the 09.
i guess itll attract people that err on the side of caution and dont care if it sounds like an industrial vacuum in the corner of the room Reply
MadAd - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkoh and i didnt have to use a modular psu Reply
lmcd - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkYes, the aesthetics are worse on this case but it's also 4 inches smaller in a dimension (appears to be height, but I can't tell):
15.16" x 8.27" x 14.72" (TJ08-E, courtesy that review)
8.66" x 11.61" x 13.94" (this case with conversions via WolframAlpha) Reply
HisDivineOrder - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkI think the bigger shame about the ODD issue is that the slim slot drives are so expensive even today when you'd wish they were easier to buy and cheaper to buy by now. Reply
tim851 - Monday, October 22, 2012 - linkSlot-in slimline drives cost under 40$ shipped on ebay. That's about 20$ more than a regular sized drive. Given that Mini-ITX (outside the world of Atom) is really not the best bang-for-the-buck, I'd consider 20$ more quite reasonable. Reply
96redformula - Saturday, October 20, 2012 - linkI finished building a new computer with this case several days ago and it was definitely more time consuming than typical builds. Looks great, fantastic air flow, and super quiet.
My only gripes are that the front could use a bit of tweaking to optimize the looks, and secondly you cannot use the 120mm fan on the side because the connection to the power supply will be in the way.
Highly recommend to anybody wanting a case they can put on their desktop and run a powerful rig in the smallest space possible. Reply
EnzoFX - Saturday, October 20, 2012 - linkSo since it's mATX, does that mean that the only benefit here is being able to run dual GPU's in a small space? Or perhaps overclocking cpu's to extremes what with being able to run a full sized CPU HS/F.
My overall criticism is that it isn't someone really looking to go small, it's someone that wants all the power, and size being the 2nd priority. Because even making one sacrifice (take your pick, cpu hs/f size, PSU, or losing 2nd graphics card), will yield smaller cases, and more attractive ones at that. There are even some that will hold more drives than this does. Reply
MonkeyPaw - Saturday, October 20, 2012 - linkTo me, the benefits are obvious. You get more expansion possibilities with mATX, the boards are generally cheaper than ITX, there are more mATX boards to chose from, and you can use standards parts. You end up with a small, powerful build that doesn't require lots of expensive or hard-to-find components. I would love to build a system with this case. Reply
EnzoFX - Saturday, October 20, 2012 - linkThe only gain is expansion with mATX, and sure, more options. Prices are comparable these days. There are also no hard-to-find components. Not these days, everything has been well standardized, and there are many solid options. Sure not as many as full-ATX, but they are enough for even the budget oriented builds. I wish ITX cases would push the envelop in going small. I wish there were more use of flex-ATX PSU. Even those are readily available, and perfectly suitable for a mid-range gaming build. Let alone anything without a discrete graphics solution. It just feels like such a waste seeing oh so many ITX builds with a 40W+ PSU, be it microATX of ATX, that don't even have a mid-range card in it. Considering the high-end GTX 680's are the niche, what's the point of full ATX PSU in an ITX build.
Granted I am not talking about full sized ITX cases such as these, I'm talking about the flip side for those really looking to save on space. There's a lot of ground that can be easily gained. Reply
ViperV990 - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkYou also don't usually see more than 2 DIMM slots on an ITX board, whereas 4 slots is the norm with MATX boards. Reply
Grok42 - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkI agree with a lot of what you are saying. I especially agree that expansion options on MBs are way over rated with two exceptions. I want the option to have a single discrete video card and as much memory as possible. I'll probably go mATX so I can have 32GB of memory. Unfortunately, I will drag along a bunch of useless cruft like pci-x slots, crazy amounts of USB headers and more SATA ports than I can ever possibly use. I can understand that there are plenty of people who want to build an overclocked dual GPU file server server with 6TB of storage with a Blue-ray drive. However, seems like the market should start also look to provide for those that want to build streamlined elegant single purpose machines as well. The only examples of this are HTPC side and it seems time for that level of focus to happen on the desktop. Reply
lmcd - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkAMD has a terrible mini-ITX board selection going for both AM3+ and FM2, so if you're looking at AMD you can't really go ITX. There might be a board or two for either of the sockets I just mentioned but they definitely don't have a full lineup there. Reply
EnzoFX - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkEdit: 400W+, not 40W+. Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkActually overclocking is potentially much better on an mATX board as there's more space for more power phases and so on. Extra DIMM slots, more expandability, enough power phases to overclock higher, etc. Look at what ASUS had to do on their mITX Z77 board to get decent overclocking hardware built into it. Reply
EnzoFX - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkWhich was my point. A decent ITX board can handle a decent overclock, what with overclocking being dead simple these days. So the real benefit is above average overclocks, and the lure of expandability, which I contest at being at odds with the typical ITX build. I realize this may be a great mATX case in terms of size and performance, so sorry if this comes off as a rant of the ITX space =P.
We demand more focus from smaller cases haha. Reply
tim851 - Monday, October 22, 2012 - linkI agree. ITX-cases shouldn't cater to the Extreme OC audience or try to steal some workstation customers. ITX was made to be small.
Even the ASrock board regularly achieves 4.5 ghz overclocks on 2500k/3570k cpus, if you look around the web. That will be fine for everyone outside competitive overclockers. As will 16 gigs of RAM.
I have a Q18 with such an oc'ed 2500k cooled by an H80. There's also 16 gigs of RAM, a 512 gig SSD and a GTX 670. And I've been spending much time trying to figure out if I couldn't cram all this into a Q03. Reply
CloudFire - Saturday, October 20, 2012 - linkI know Anand has a youtube channel but I've seen mostly phone reviews on there. Why not do video reviews of cases too? I love reading articles, don't get me wrong but often times I love watching a video review more. Reply
Samus - Saturday, October 20, 2012 - linkreally? Reply
exodios93 - Saturday, October 20, 2012 - linkWhat's with all the small, reasonable cases?
Review something big and pointless like a little devil PC-V8 please. Reply
DanNeely - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkOr how about the MountainMods monstrosity known as the Extended Ascension with room for 12x120 mm fans on the top, and side panels big enough to fit a custom 16x120 configuration. Reply
Grok42 - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkYet another great review and even better, it's for a mATX case.
As for your comment about the slim optical drive, I think you put too much emphasis on this as a negative. While I agree that the drives themselves are expensive, hard to source and a pain to install, the upsides are so great that any mATX or mITX case that chooses to use a full size bay is at a huge disadvantage. As another poster said, optical is on the way out and if you really need a legacy drive you can take the hit for the slim drive or use another computer for your optical tasks. The only thing I use my optical drive for in the last 5 years is to rip content to my hard drive and this happens less and less each year. I just use an external drive and put it back in storage until I need it again. Not sure why most users would need a percent internal optical anymore.
I'm also not wild about the looks but the front is good enough since they didn't mess it up with any full size bays. I think the best part of this case is that it can take an mATX board. While a mITX board will work for me, mATX can be cheaper, have better overclocking abilities and there are just plain more boards to choose from. The biggest benefit is their ability to use 32GB of memory instead of mITX's 16GB. With memory so inexpensive these days, it is a shame that all motherboards don't offer more ability to handle more memory. Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkI'll admit I might have been a little harsh on it and that the last thing my optical drive was used for was to play "Jason X" on DVD (I really, really love crap), but forcing you to use a slot-loading drive for aesthetic purposes does make things harder. Standard slimline opticals are easy to track down and reasonably priced, but slot-loaders are much more difficult. Reply
geok1ng - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkhttp://www.anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/2390#3
I understand that the plastic faceplate used is for slot loading drives, but the space seen compatible with a standard slimline drive. Can't we just remover the plastic cover and install a trayloading slimline?
The whole point is moot: most sane people that still need an optical drive have forked the money for an external USB 3.0 optical+2.5" combo drive.
The other critics are also weird:
-anyone who opts for this case will use modular PSUs from the start,
-most MOBOs have ate least one FAN header that can be software controlled
-GPUs that need more cooling can and will received extra direct air from the 2 optional 80mm fans
This case has one minor flaw- like every other really small case, its a pain to assemble and one major flaw:
IT IS UGLY!! Reply
Blibbax - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkI feel like this case would be better with intakes at the bottom and exhaust at the top. Reply
marvdmartian - Monday, October 22, 2012 - linkThat's certainly the more conventional pathway for cooling, as it takes advantage of the natural current of heated air to rise......
.....but as ugly as most people here seem to think it is, it's more likely this would be placed under a desk, and that's where a top intake design wins out, since you're less likely to suck up the occasional dust bunny!
I do think that the hard drives will tend to get rather warm, though. Reply
swe3tdave - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linki can understand why some people might prefer small cases, but this is nuts... Reply
Earthmonger - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkThis thing is hideous. It's like a portable dehumidifier. I can't believe Silverstone attached their name to it. Oh how the mighty have fallen. But anyway...
I applaud the slot-in optical. I applaud the front-mounted PSU, though it should be on the floor. And that's all the "nice" I can say about it. So many other SFF cases are available that are miles above this. What the Hell are you thinking, Silverstone? If these things have shipped, recall them. Don't sully your reputation. Reply
lmcd - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkI don't think it should be a concern: at this size you're making tradeoffs and half the time you're squeezing it into a small space and hiding it anyway. Reply
mfenn - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkI really disagree with publishing this "review" and giving the part the "recommended" seal of approval without knowing the price. This isn't a review, it's a preview and should be labeled as such.
I for one would be fine waiting on reading the review (even if it was done and ready) until the product actually had an MSRP. If Silverstone was leaning on you to publish, you should push back and say that you'll publish once you get an MSRP. Reply
lmcd - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkIt's hitting $100 pretty much everywhere... Reply
lmcd - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkThis looks like the perfect case for me: it's nice and compact but I don't have to deal with ITX.* Nice cooling for maybe even CF, and I don't mind noise since I tend to game loudly. As for fans, I'll make sure my nicely-sized mATX board has enough fan headers; shouldn't be too hard. One optical drive is perfect and I don't mind spending a bit extra on it later (might not get it initially though) and will use a cheap external in the meantime (note: a cheap external is around $30 and so the "unbearable" slim drive can easily be mitigated this way).
*ITX boards with wireless built in tend to be expensive and late to the market, and I need a wireless card, but want discrete graphics. As such, ITX is a no-go for me. Reply
extide - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkCheck out the ASRock Z77 M-ITX board. It's pretty sweet IMHO and I am dying to do a build with one :) Reply
lmcd - Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - linkI'm actually looking at this for my next build, which should be around the time of Haswell. And I'm interested in maybe even dual-GPU with this case (two 7850-equivalents). Reply
piroroadkill - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkOh dear.
If you need a premium microATX case, surely there's only one choice, the Fractal Design Define Mini.. Reply
Orvtrebor - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkI can't believe this is the final product....
Someone on another forum that starts with an [H] drew an awesome modified version of this case when the prototype was first shown. Pretty sure it's in the SFF forum.
It is literally 10x better than this mess. Reply
dave1_nyc - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkI forget the model, but several years ago there was one of the Sugo cases that I thought was so nice I was just looking for some reason to build in it, either in the all aluminum version or the steel-with-an-aluminum-front version.
But honestly, could this thing *be* any uglier. Reply
joos2000 - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - link
The main sacrifices SilverStone made with the Sugo SG09 are understandable ones barring one unusual decision. I understand their preference for slot-loading slimline optical drives from an aesthetic perspective, but it increases build cost for the end user and reduces options substantially.
There are some rather obvious errors in your reasoning, at least to me.
First of all, if you are even remotely interested in building a small system, then you are obviously looking at putting the smallest components in there. Having a full height disc player more than doubles, probably triples the volume requirement in the box for what is, in most cases, a completely redundant device in a modern system. So all of a sudden, you go against your requirement of portability and minimalism so you can save a buck on an optical drive? How does that make any sense at all?
I wouldn't be all surprised if most of the builds based on this box will be without a DVD/BR all together. And yes, I am presuming that pretty much all of the builds based on this case will be LAN gaming systems since it is far, far to ugly to have next to your telly in the living room.
And when did PC games come delivered in blu-rays anyway? Pretty much all PC games come on DVD's still, so paying through the nose for a blu-ray player for a LAN box just doesn't make sense. At all.
That's my impression anyway and why I think Silverstone have made the right decision both in slimline form factor and skipping blu-ray's for their gaming systems. Reply
EnzoFX - Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - linkMy thoughts exactly as summarized in my original comment =P. Reply
tzhu07 - Sunday, October 21, 2012 - linkReally tacky and plasticty looking. I'll definitely be sticking with Fractal Design cases. Reply
dingetje - Monday, October 22, 2012 - linkso what's the best matx case guys? SilverStone Temjin TJ08-E ? orrrrrr...? Reply
piroroadkill - Monday, October 22, 2012 - linkFractal Design Define Mini gets my vote Reply
EnzoFX - Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - linkTJ08-E if you want small. Define Mini if you want it to be easily quiet. Both great. Reply
CknSalad - Monday, October 22, 2012 - linkI still think tj08-e is the best matx case. It looks simple, elegant, and is the 2nd smallest or So. You also have the option of using the top 2 Bays and bottom slot for hard drives if you need 3 hdds with a good air cooler. This new offering by silverstone is ambitious but has a few issues where my main concern are the temps for the hard drives. Also i would prefer having more than two hard drive slots than having up to 4ssd slOts. Anyways, i hope to see more matx cases asi feel they are the best of both worlds in terms of size and performance. Unless you need more than two cards and need the extra expansion slots, most users and even the Gamer will have a single gpu, wifi card, and possibly a dedicated audio card. This is just my two cents. Those that disagree i would be happy to hear what you have to say about this. Overall if the desktop market wants to have decent sales on the consumer side of things, they are going to have to make a better effort off releasing more sff parts without the big dip in performance. Reply
n13L5 - Wednesday, December 09, 2015 - linkSilverstone cases almost always have a clever layout with good cooling concept, but:
Material quality, fit and finish is usually a DOG'S BREAKFAST!
If I could merge Silverstone's Layout prowess with Lian Li's sense of quality and aesthetics, I would. Reply


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