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LookSea's "augmented reality" is a major innovation in marine navigation, with roots both usual and unusual.
By Ben Ellison
While it's obvious that military vessels face much more difficult navigation challenges than we recreational boaters do, consider how those challenges compound as the boats get ever faster and the amount of relevant data multiplies. Specifically, picture yourself at the helm of an 88-foot LCAC—a "Landing Craft, Air Cushioned" in Navy-speak, the hairy hovercraft pictured at left to us lubbers—doing 40-plus knots headed straight at a hostile coastline. You have precise and constantly updated info on your proposed route and nearby hazards like reefs, mines, and fellow flying LCACs. But how do you put it all together in your head fast enough, especially given the noise and spray generated by your 16,000 hp of lift and propulsion fans, and especially if some of your "brain cycles" are needed elsewhere, like trying to avoid incoming fire?
No doubt the Navy uses the best chartplotters and radars, but don't you think it's also continually searching for even better tools? Well, it turns out that after a decade of R&D, the LCAC fleet is in advanced testing of a remarkable system called ARVCOP, or Augmented Reality Visualization of the Common Operational Picture. That's a long name for the essentially simple idea of geo-referencing video camera output and then overlaying it with critical info. The system works so well that other branches of the Navy are interested, too, as are the Army and Coast Guard. More important, ARVCOP's primary creator, a contract R&D lab called Technology Systems Inc. (TSI), has decided to offer "augmented reality" navigation to yachtsmen, starting a new company with the more civilian title of LookSea and an initial $40,000 "Pro" product aimed at megayachts.
I was intrigued with LookSea Pro when it debuted at the Fort Lauderdale International Boat Show last fall. Since then I've taken a test ride in "perfect" conditions—blowing like stink and raining sideways—and also toured the TSI/LookSea offices with founder Chuck Benton. Both trips were easy because Benton's operation is located just down the coast from me in Wiscasset, Maine (which tickles me). At any rate, and state pride aside, I now concur with Benton that the LookSea idea is valuable enough—like radar and GPS before it—to transcend from mission-critical military to everyday cruising, or in his words "from tactical to practical."
Next page > Part 2: LookSea lays it out like an easy video game—integration simplified, brain cycles saved! > Page 1, 2, 3
This article originally appeared in the February 2004 issue of Power & Motoryacht magazine.


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This guide addresses the concerns of family and friends who care for the majority of patients with Alzheimer's disease/related dementias. Emphasizing nurturing "what remains" and caregiver self-care, chapters include the stages of the disease, answers to common questions, personal stories, and patient art from the Memories in the Making project. Further details on brain functioning and a self-assessment of brain health are appended.
Always my grandpa : a story for children about Alzheimer's disease / Linda Scacco
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Feeling at the top of her game when she is suddenly diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's disease, Harvard psychologist Alice Howland struggles to find meaning and purpose in her life as her concept of self gradually slips away.
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After the author discovered that she had the major susceptibility gene for Alzheimer's, she was determined to find all the latest scientific evidence on how to escape it. She discovered one hundred surprisingly simple, scientifically tested ways to radically cut the odds of developing Alzheimer's, memory loss, and other forms of dementia.
Curveball : the year I lost my grip / Jordan Sonnenblick
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After an injury ends former star pitcher Peter Friedman's athletic dreams, he concentrates on photography which leads him to a girlfriend, new fame as a high school sports photographer, and a deeper relationship with the beloved grandfather who, when he realizes he is becoming senile, gives Pete all of his professional camera gear.
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The daughter of Ronald Reagan describes losing her father to the ravages of Alzheimer's, linking memories of her life to a study of Reagan the man, the actor, and the politician, and the toll of the disease on her father and his family.
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Vowing to repair his relationships with his estranged adult children after learning he has Alzheimer's, Bill Warrington takes a cross-country drive with his teenage granddaughter and leave clues intended to force his children to overcome mutual distrust and work together.
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Brandon Dubinsky:
"We kept pressing. I thought, even though we were down two going into the third period we kept trying to play our game — strong D and try to be oportunistic, try to make some plays. We had some chances. The puck goes through the back door there, a couple of scrambles in front. We've just got to find a way to make those bounces go our way, and that's through hard work. We're not going to sit here and complain about not getting bounces or this, that or the other thing. We just have to make sure we evaluate where we are and where we need to be in order to win these games on a consistent basis.
I asked him what he meant by where they are and need to be:
"Where we are in the standings. Where our positioning it because it's going to be a tough (firetrucking) stretch. We've got a lot of games, we've got a lot of good teams to play and it's not a secret how many points we need to get into the playoffs. It's the same every year — between 90 and 95 in order to get there. So for us, if we look at it that way, it's how many wins? Thirteen wins, 14 wins. We have what, 21 games left now? So 14-7. You've got to win two for every one.
"Hopefully we can get on a little run here. Hopefully we can build on the energy we had (today). I thought we played well (today) but it's got to be consistent. If we play with the energy and determination we did (today), we're not looking back and saying we lost eight out of 10. You know, this might be just one bump in the road after we'd won four, five, six in a row. So, because that hasn't been the case, we can't be too pleased about this one. We've got to realize that hard work without results doesn't mean anything right now. So we've got to find a way to get results."
Asked about all the one-goal games:
"Honestly, I don't care if it's one (goal) or 10. It's a loss. We've got to find a way to get the results. We've got to find a way to bury a goal, a big goal. And we need to continue to find a way to outwork our opponents. I thought we outworked them today. But I don't think we outworked Jersey the other night, and like I said before, if we play the way we played today I think we're going to win a lot of hockey games. But it's got to be something that's consistently there every night. And right now I wouldn't be so upset about things.
"I am upset because I thought the way we played (today) is the way we need to play, but it hasn't been consistent, and if we had been consistent today would have been a small bump in the road with a lot of wins behind us. But it hasn't been the case because we haven't been consistent with the way we've been playing."
On not getting a single power play:
"Yeah, I mean, a 60-minute game against that team, I think there's got to be one or two. But, we're not the refs, we can't control the refs."
Ryan Callahan:
On not getting a power play:
"I guess they didn't take any penalties. That's how it works sometimes. You can't get too worried about that. Without having any power plays, I thought we generated a lot of chances and did what we had to do. We're just not getting that next goal."
"We have to win games now. It doesn't matter how you play or what happens during the game. We need the two points and we have a lot of teams nipping at our heels now. It doesn't matter if we play great and don't get two points. At the end of the day, we need two points to get into the playoffs and have a good position."
Henrik Lundqvist:
"It's disappointing because you know how important it is for us right now to get points. Unfortunately, it's the same story, different day. We come close, we created enough chances to win or at least tie the game. They're a good team and we came close, but it doesn't matter. We need two points and we're just not getting them right now. We just have to try even harder.
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Police are at a loss to explain what prompted a 16-year-old boy to flail away with two kitchen knives, stabbing and slashing 21 students and a security guard in the halls of his high school in the US state of Pennsylvania.
The attack by Alex Hribal might have been even worse but for the "heroes" who Pennsylvania's governor said helped prevent further injury or loss of life.
An assistant principal tackled and subdued Hribal, who was charged on Wednesday night with four counts of attempted homicide and 21 counts of aggravated assault, and jailed without bail. Authorities said he would be prosecuted as an adult.
The suspect's motive remained a mystery.
"He wasn't saying anything," Moore recalled hours later. "He didn't have any anger on his face. It was just a blank expression."
At a brief hearing on Wednesday night, District Attorney John Peck said that after he was taken into custody, Hribal made comments suggesting he wanted to die.
Defence lawyer Patrick Thomassey described him as a good student who got along with others, and asked for a psychiatric examination.
At least five students were critically wounded in the attack, including a boy who was on a ventilator after a knife pierced his liver, missing his heart and aorta by only millimetres, doctors said.
The rampage comes after decades in which US schools have focused their emergency preparedness on mass shootings, not stabbings.
There have been at least two major stabbing attacks at US schools over the past year, the first at a community college in Texas last April that wounded at least 14 people, and another, also in Texas, that killed a 17-year-old student and injured three others at a high school last September.
The attack in Murrysville unfolded shortly after 7am, a few minutes before the start of classes at 1200-student Franklin Regional High School, in an upper-middle-class area 24.14km east of Pittsburgh.
Hribal ran down about 60 metres of hallway, slashing and stabbing other students with kitchen knives about 8 to 10 inches long, police said.
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King then saw Hribal stab a security guard, who leaned against the wall, bleeding from his stomach, according to a police affidavit. King tackled Hribal and kept him on the floor until a school police officer handcuffed him.
The rampage lasted about five minutes.
"There are a number of heroes in this day. Many of them are students," Governor Tom Corbett said in a visit to the stricken town. "Students who stayed with their friends and didn't leave their friends."
He also commended cafeteria workers, teachers and teacher's aides who put themselves at risk to help others.
Looking for a motive, Murrysville Police Chief Thomas Seefeld said investigators were checking reports of a threatening phone call between Hribal and another student the night before. He didn't say whether the suspect received or made the call.


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SMWC crowned Western Equestrian Champions
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The Saint Mary-of-the-Woods College (SMWC) Western Equestrian team closed out their regular season in style by winning the Zone 7, Region 1 Intercollegiate Horse Show Association (IHSA) Regional Championship on Jan. 28-29, 2012. SMWC's riders swept the competition, including Ball State University, Butler University, Eastern Illinois University, Indiana University, Parkland College, Purdue University, Purdue-Calumet University, St. Mary's College (Notre Dame) and University of Illinois, all teams from the region or Division I programs.
Because of this win, the team will travel to Tallahassee, Fla., to compete at the IHSA semi-finals hosted by Florida State University on March 24-25, 2012. "This is an amazing group of young women," said Sara Schulz, head western equestrian coach and assistant professor of equine studies at SMWC. "There is a mutual respect among the team members and I am so proud to work with each of them."
Team captain Whitney Mahloch, of Plymouth, Wis., senior, finished as high point rider. Nine western team individuals have qualified for the regional horse show hosted at SMWC on March 2, 2012, including:
Karen Cannon (Duncan, Okla.)
Ali Mahloch (Plymouth, Wis.)
Whitney Mahloch (Plymouth, Wis.)
Jordyn Perrott (Bridgeport, Ill.)
Sarah New (Filmore, Ind.)
Erika Stanley (Greensburg, Ind.)
Jena Thralls (West Terre Haute, Ind)
Victoria Toy (Bishop, Calif.)
Danielle Willenborg (Dieterich, Ill.).
High point team members are:
Reining - Whitney Mahloch (Plymouth, Wis.)
Open Rail - Jordyn Perrott (Bridgeport, Ill.)
Advanced - Karen Cannon (Duncan, Okla.)
Novice - Sarah New (Filmore, Ind.)
Intermediate - Paige Harvey (Indianapolis, Ind.)
Walk/Trot - Shelby Harber (Wabash, Ind.)
The IHSA represents more than 6,500 riders, with more than 300 member colleges and universities in 45 states and Canada.
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Toward Atomic-Scale Tomography
Thomas F. Kelly, CAMECA Instruments, Inc.
Friday, September 28, 2012, 3:30pm
Spanos Auditorium
This seminar is part of the Jones Seminars on Science, Technology, and Society series.
Atom probe tomography (APT) is a three-dimensional atomic imaging technique. Yet it fails to reach the ultimate in microscopy, which is seeing every atom with high precision in large volumes. This talk will review the state of the art in APT and explore what it would take to reach the next level, which is defined to be atomic-scale tomography (AST). The potential impact of AST on science and technology will be considered.
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Thomas Kelly is a Professor of Materials Science and Engineering at the University of Wisconsin-Madison and Director of the Materials Science Center until September 2001. Tom founded Imago Scientific Instruments to commercialize the local electrode atom probe. Imago was acquired in April 2010 by Ametek, Inc. and is now part of CAMECA. Tom has been active in the fields of analytical electron microscopy, atom probe microscopy, and has brought innovations to the instrumentation and practice. The development of atom-probe tomography remains the principal passion in his career as he seeks to advance the technology and broaden the applicability of the technique. Tom was a Director of the Microscopy Society of America from 2000 to 2002, a member of the Steering Committee of the International Field Emission Society from 2002 to 2008, and is the recent Past President of the International Field Emission Society. He is currently a Director of the Microanalysis Society, is the nominee for President Elect, and is a Recipient of its Presidential Science Award.


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After the remix contest for 'Nightcall', Kavinsky has just launched a fan art contest, allowing graphic designers and illustrators to contribute their interpretations of Kavinsky's zombie universe. 50 illustrations will be chosen from the entrants and included in a limited edition book. The winning design will take pride of place on the front cover.
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A 32-year-old man who indecently exposed himself in front of a train passenger later told police it was just a case of 'boys being boys'.
Blackburn magistrates heard Adam Greenwood was one of a number of drunken football fans travelling home from pre-season friendlies in the Blackpool area.
The yobs were daring each other to do 'bolder and bolder' things and Greenwood eventually dropped his trousers.
Catherine Allan, prosecuting, said: "After he had pulled his pants up he said, 'Sorry mate'."
Miss Allan said the train had been crowded at the time of the incident and one female passenger had been so distressed she had seen fit to contact the police. Greenwood was arrested when the train pulled into Blackburn station.
Greenwood, 32, of Grange Avenue, Accrington, pleaded guilty to indecently exposing himself.
He was made subject to an electronically monitored curfew for 12 weeks between 7 pm and 7 am.


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Simple Yield Improvement. (Part 2)Sunday, January 6th, 2013
In the previous post we discussed what happens to the printed circuit board structure when it is heated. We discussed how different materials expand at different rates and the effect the expansion rates have on the warp and twist of a Printed Circuit Board (PCB). We also discussed how moisture absorption can increase the degree of warp and twist and the adverse effect it has on assembly yields and potential field failures. We also discussed how dry baking removes moisture from the PCB and how it minimizes if not eliminates potential problems.
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HP Chromebook Confirmed: Available Now For $329by Jason Inofuentes on 2/7/2013 10:23 PM EST
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luv2liv - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkat that price, i would just get a netbook with bettery cpu, more ram, much much larger storage, and works offline.
this HP should be priced around $150-$180 Reply
extide - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkA netbook will not have a better cpu... You'd be looking at an Atom, and the Celly 847 is basically a super neutered sandy bridge chip, and even as cut down as it is, it would be faster than an Atom, or AMD's Atom equivalent. Reply
strata8 - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkAn 11" netbook with an E2-1800 has slightly better CPU/GPU performance and can be found for the same price with better specs. Reply
Roland00Address - Saturday, February 09, 2013 - linkThe Celeron 847 is the slowest sandybridge, the e2-1800 is the second fastest zacate processor (there is an e2-2000 which is 50 mhz faster than the e2-1800)
Cinebench R10: Rendering Multiple CPUs 64Bit avg 2332.5
Passmark score of 850
Celeron 847
Cinebench R10: Rendering Multiple CPUs 64Bit avg: 2865
Passmark score of 1046
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So in sum the 847 is about 20% faster than the e2-1800 for cpu tasks. The celeron is intels slowest sandybridge 17w celeron, the newest sandybridge 17w celeron is called 887 and it is clocked at 1.5 ghz (36% higher clock speed). Intel is also now selling 17w ivybridge celerons and the fastest of those is 1037U which is clocked at 1.8 ghz (63% higher clock speed and small ipc improvements going from sandybridge to ivybridge.)
The reason you should wan't a chromebook is that you can't do anything on it. It is a very limited device, this is its second greatest strength (hard to get malware and such) and its greatest weakness. The only other strength for chromebooks is price and you can get a real windows laptop that is much better for $350. Reply
jabber - Saturday, February 09, 2013 - link"The reason you should wan't a chromebook is that you can't do anything on it. It is a very limited device, this is its second greatest strength (hard to get malware and such) and its greatest weakness. The only other strength for chromebooks is price and you can get a real windows laptop that is much better for $350. "
Hmmm well I've been using a Samsung Chromebook for the past two weeks and I would have to disagree about not being able to do anything on it.
I have used it solidly and have still perfectly been able to manage my business, do my accounts, email and browsing from it. All the usual wordprocessing and spreadsheets work just fine.
Oh and I can use it perfectly okay when not connected to the web. However, as most of us carry a smartphone with 3G tethering these periods are very rare.
The ChromeOS will be a very BIG thing. Google just hasn't started pushing it yet. It's still pretty much a open beta right now.
Once they do, it's going to Hit MS/Apple and anyone who can't be bothered with Linux and its command line BS really hard. (yes I know its based on linux but it removes all the fiddly crap from it that hardly anyone needs).
The OS for the masses has finally arrived. Reply
andrewaggb - Monday, February 11, 2013 - linkCan it run eclipse/visual studio/some ide or photoshop/gimp/something or develop android apps? Pretty certain the answer is no to all of those things.
What about DLNA media playback? I suspect this may work but I don't know.
Do any printers/scanners and stuff work? Reply
jabber - Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - link"Can it run eclipse/visual studio/some ide or photoshop/gimp/something or develop android apps? Pretty certain the answer is no to all of those things."
And what percentage exactly of the general computing population actual do any of that stuff to any degree?
I think you'll find its quite a small percentage compared to those that just browse, use Facebook and do the odd letter, invoice and accounts spreadsheet.
For the general person who isn't into video editing/major visual manipulation and major application development it works pretty well.
I can play vids from my QNAP via the twonky server/browser.
Oh and printers work. I've printed stuff from my Chromebook to my non cloud approved laser printer. Reply
GotThumbs - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkWhen will Chrome books have AMD APU's?
I would expect the APU to lower in cost and better in performance.
Great price/tool for those with only basic needs: email, web-browsing, FBing or G+ Reply
Roland00Address - Saturday, February 09, 2013 - linkBecause Intel can make the cpus cheaper than AMD. The list price of all the celerons ulvs is $87 dollars but no oem ever pays that amount for said cpus. All these celeron sandybridge cpus are rejects. If anything is wrong with the cpu, for example some of the cache doesn't work, some of the gpu doesn't work, it can't hit a target ghz in a certain voltage or tdp range then it becomes a crappy celeron.
An intel i7-2677 has 4 megs of cache, 1.8 ghz base, 2.9 ghz turbo, and 12 execution units.
A celeron 847 has 2 megs of cache, 1.1 ghz, and 6 execution units.
If any of cpus fail any of those 4 tests, yet the chip still works they can resell it at a celeron. They can sell this chip at any price above "manufacturing" cost and it still be worth it for they are not taking a loss of said cpu. The i3 to i7s pay the research and foundry costs. The celerons and pentiums allow intel to salvage cpus and trim the waste budget.
Intel sandybridge dual core mobile die size is about 131mm2, Intel Ivybridge dual core mobile die size is about 94mm2. AMD trinity dual module (quad core) mobile die size is 246mm2. I have not see news about AMD having a single module die being made, it would make sense to me if they do have this but I have seen no news about this.
Intel can sell salvage cpus at a profit for their manufacturing cost is a lot cheaper than amd, and thus they can just undercut amd and still make a profit. Reply
ShieTar - Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - link1) Buy a Lenovo Ideapad N586 for about the same price as above ChromeBook.
2) Install Chrome yourself. There you go.
The only downside is: No SSD. Not sure how important that is, if the browser is the only piece of software you ever use.
Instead you get a bigger screen and a full keyboard. Hell, for just a bit over 400$, HP will sell you a 17'' Pavillion with a 1600x900 screen resolution. 350$ really seems too much for what little this ChromeBook can do, even for people which don't need to do more. Reply
Lonyo - Friday, February 08, 2013 - link$330 or so gets you the same specs but either 11.6" or 15.6" screen, 4GB RAM and a 320GB mechanical drive, with Windows 8.
Unless you really need a 14" device, you're better off buying a regular Windows laptop, and then installing a different OS, and if you must, selling the mechanical drive and buying your own tiny SSD.
Seems stupidly priced for what it offers. Reply
DudleyUC - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkTotally agree, this is less portable than a tablet and less powerful than a budget laptop, but not significantly cheaper than either. Reply
jabber - Saturday, February 09, 2013 - linkWell I've shown my Chromebook to half a dozen 'normal PC users' since I've had it and four of them have bought one since. Basically they were "Oh wow it does all I need without all the messing about with Office, viruses etc.!"
Lot of interest in my local circles since I bought one. Only going to get bigger.
Even mum and dad want one.
Can it browse the web? Yes
Can it do Facebook? Yes
Can it do Twitter? Yes
Can it do Ebay?Yes
Can it write a letter? Yes
Can it do a spreadsheet? Yes
Can I store docs and photos? Yes
Is it faster than my 7 year old XP laptop? Yes
Do I have to worry about Viruses? No
Is it expensive? No.
Do I have to learn anything new to use it? NO! Reply
kmmatney - Sunday, February 10, 2013 - linkWindows 8 comes with Antivirus built-in, so you don't have to separately install it.
"Do I have to learn anything new to use it? NO"
I would say that always been true of Linux when I first tried it - I just installed Ubuntu and everything worked fine - at first. As soon as I tried anything new, it became very complicated very fast, and I finally gave up. Hopefully the Chrome OS will do better, but it still has an uphill battle. I don't think any new OS will gain much traction until businesses start using them. Reply
JCheng - Sunday, February 10, 2013 - linkOr put another way, more portable than a budget laptop and more powerful than a tablet, but not more expensive than either. Reply
ShieTar - Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - linkYeah, actually at 2x1.10 GHz its unlikely to be more powerfull than any modern quad-core tablet.
And more portable? By the numbers, sure. But do you really have a 14" coat pocket? Are you strong enough to comfortably hold a 14'' in one hand and type with the other? Personally, I can't see anything I would rather do with a 14" than a 15.4". If I need portable operation, I'd even prefer 7" over 10", but as long as I have a table to put my PC on, I have really no problem putting a light 15" into my backpack to get there.
This offer is basically a oversized netbook with a heavily restricted OS. You pay 100$ to 150$ bonus for the larger screen, and give up 300GB of local storage. Annother 50$ will get you back the storage, give you an even bigger screen and a numpad in your keyboard, an optical drive and a fully functional operating system. Or, if you value portability, 50$ more will also get you the Asus Transformer.
The ChromeBooks offer may not be horrible, but I find it to be second-best for basically every user imaginable. Except maybe very young teenagers for whom the 15" option would be already too heavy. But i guess everybody in that age-group is happy with tablets anyways. Reply
piiman - Saturday, February 16, 2013 - linkOn top of that I've alredy seen other Chrome Books for 199.99 in BestBuy's.
So this one seems little high. Reply
Hector2 - Saturday, February 09, 2013 - linkYep. I got a full-sized 15" Lenovo Win8 laptop recently on sale for $280. Dual core 32nm 2.4GHz Celeron B980 with 4GB of ram and 320GB HDD. Saw some other low end $300-$350 full size laptops there as well. Performance has been really good. Reply
karasaj - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkConsidering the specs, I second, third, or fourth or fifth what is said above me. This is much too expensive, especially considering the fact that the display will probably be terrible. Samsung's chromebook had at least a decent (even good by notebook standards - ugh) display, for less cost, and the A15 isn't THAT much worse (especially for web browsing) and will offer better battery life. I don't see this doing well (at least with a marginally well informed consumer) Reply
karasaj - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkAnandtech, we need an edit feature! :P
Plus the fact that Acer's C7 is virtually identical (?) for 200$. Reply
DudleyUC - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkIt is very similar, only bigger, heavier, and more expensive (yet without better battery life). I'm confused... Reply
lmcd - Saturday, February 09, 2013 - linkSSD, though that probably added like $25 max to the BOM Reply
ShieTar - Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - linkI want to say the switch from 320GB HDD to 16GB SSD added exactly $0 to the price. At least both options are priced around 30$ to 40$ if you buy them sepparately, so I don't see why HP should pay end-user prices for the SSD while being able to buy the HDD for significantly less than 10$.
What might add to the price is a better case, in my experience the mechanical part of their notebooks is the part that HP really knows how to do right. Never had an Acer, so I have no Idea how they do on that front. Reply
DudleyUC - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkThis thing is worthless. Reply
hmaarrfk - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkTotally agreed.
Took me all of two seconds to find this
Regular price at Dell $350
CPU mark of the chromebook processor Celeron 847: 1046
CPU mark of the Dell processor Celeron 1007U : 1591
And the Dell is better in every aspect.....
Personally, I don't understand why anybody would buy a chromebook other than it is probably easier to use for internet browsing purposes than a PC (then again, I would use a tablet for that....) Reply
lmcd - Saturday, February 09, 2013 - linkWell yes, this model, but no to the rejection of the Chromebook idea. It's a true netbook, and the ARM version is (now, with Netflix and PPAPI support) perfect.
PNaCl will really make Chrome OS shine with true portability. I'm definitely looking hard at it to possibly develop for. Reply
Hector2 - Friday, February 08, 2013 - linkI just got a full-sized 15" Lenovo laptop with Win8 on sale for $280. Dual core 2.4GHz Celeron with 4GB of ram and 320GB HDD. Saw some $300-$350 low end, full size laptops by other OEMs there as well.
Why get a Chromebook when you can have it all ? Reply
Scannall - Saturday, February 09, 2013 - linkThere are a lot of deals out there. I just picked up an Acer V3 with the AMD A8-4500m (Trinity), 4 gig of ram and a 500 gig hard drive for $339 delivered. A lot more useful than a Chromebook. It even does decent at gaming. It can play SWTOR at high quality nice and smooth. Reply
Amit kumar - Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - linkDefinitely great device thanks for the review. I got quite a few more eye catching feature of this phone in this site as well. http://www.gadtecho.com/ Reply


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The Radeon HD 4870 1GB: The Card to Getby Derek Wilson on 9/25/2008 12:00 AM EST
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happytony - Thursday, October 02, 2008 - linkjust ask. thanks
compare the price to nvforce
it's worth?
LazyGarfield - Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - linkI wonder how many gamers got a 30" TFT? Like 0,3 % of the community?
So how interesting do you think would be the 2560 x 1600 resolution to your readers?
How about featuring some useful resolutions like 1650 x 1080 or 1920 x 1200? (Not that it ever showed much difference in such a comparison).
Then again, when you look at the figures just one game is showing some real gains anyways because it´s not really an improvement to be playing Crysis with 33 instead of 30 fps.... even more since this is most likely an average figure. Not to mention that the improvement is most likely coming from a higher gpu/memory clock rather than from the quantity of the memory).
The min-fps would be very interesting as well because the biggest improvement with more memory on GFX-cards is mostly showing there. Reply
Gannon - Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - linkI wish people would stop mouthing off these truisms as if they were the only way to look at the situation.
Consider that the real world is a physical place, competition does not always bring benefits. Take a look at game console development -three radically different development platforms, which makes it a royal PITA to cross platform a game that doesn't have sufficient hardware power, and what about all the reduplication with joysticks and mice? A lot of waste goes on.
The idea that competition "always benefit the consumer" is nonsense, I can name hundreds of negative externalities because of competition and ridiculous amounts of redundant items and work that merely clogs up the market.
Often times we make too much stuff at a too poor quality and design things to go obsolete without thinking about the future. This at some point is unsustainable environmentally. So lets just remember that things are made from nature, not anywhere else, that's where all true value comes from. All we do is merely reshape what was already there, all that potential value already existed in potential form, you can't get a glass bottle, computer, microchip, or a factory, if you dont have pre-existing value by which to make it out of. Reply
helldrell666 - Monday, September 29, 2008 - linkThe 4870 1Gb version does beat the 280gtx in 3 out of 6 games at 2560 res.at 1920 res. it beats the 280gtx in 4 out of 6 and matches it in the witcher.
Nive job ATI...AMD Reply
tiggers - Monday, September 29, 2008 - linkLike some of the other posts above, I wouldn't mind having an older tech, mid-level card (1 to 3 generations back) thrown in as a reference point.
It would be nice to have a bench mark to help people judge cost/performance to see if it's worth while to upgrade or not. Reply
aldy402 - Saturday, September 27, 2008 - linkderek, looking at the 512mb and 1gb pcb pic comparisons, they look the same besides the double density ram chips. I just wanted to confirm that all the full cover WC blocks for the the 512 model should fit the 1gb model as well, correct? Reply
unclebud - Saturday, September 27, 2008 - linki bought one from best buy wth the 10% off befre the 4850/4870 launch, making it $117 before tax, and didn't want to bother with buying the 4850 (this week) for $135, especially since i play on a 17" CRT. Reply
jedz - Friday, September 26, 2008 - linkthe hd4870 does it well again this time by adding another 512mb of video memory and making it a 1gig card. AMD is really on the right track this time, the higher the memory the more fps can be yielded in high resolution gaming(which is still a bottleneck for nvidia). way to go AMD....
I'm looking forward for the release of hd4850x2.... Reply
yacoub - Friday, September 26, 2008 - linkHow noisy is it? Why did you not include that in the Power page? Usually you cover Power and Noise. Reply
robotslave - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkThis is all well and good for those who have a $300 graphics card budget, but those of us who shop in the sub-$200 range are left scratching our heads a bit.
The 1GB 4850 variant has been in stores for weeks now, but none of the major hardware sites have reviewed one. Newegg has five models in stock; have none of the manufacturers sent review samples to you guys?
What's the holdup? How long are we going to have to wait to see whether or not the 1GB 4850 is going to make a difference for the 22"-24" 1900x1200 panels currently in the display sweet spot? Reply
SiliconDoc - Friday, October 03, 2008 - linkNo offense robotslave, none to anandtech either, but they've reached the point that the corpo-politician model of perma e-boner has been erected, and there's no going back.
They need no gamer left behind legislation. lol
It must be blocked from the floor overclocking vote. tee hee
( don't you care about team cohesion and enthusiasm levels ?) -rofl
I mean do you expect these silicon valley monster review boys to settle for 1024x768x32 on a $150.00 vidcard lineup ?
That sounds like a hostile work environment.
The "secondary" market (or is that 3rd world now ?) requires too much viagra, the team has to think about morale and hype, man.
I think we'd better move to the "less interesting" review pages where gamerz aren't "seen or heard" even if they "are there".
( I'll see ya there, or rather, I won't ... wink)
Gaz - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkwhich of theses two senario's would be the better one to implement 4 x 4870 1gb or 2 x 4870x2
I have a MSI K9A2 platinum that can handle 4 cards in crossfireX the only problem is that the power conections to the cards and the size of the power supply needed to run all 4 4870 1gb cards compaired to the 2 x 4870x2 which would only use 2 six pin and 2 eight pin conectors
the 4 x 4870 1gb i think would use 8 six pin power conecters to run the vidio cards but what size psu would you realy need a 1500psu or would a 1350 or 1000 psu do
I havent bought any cards yet Reply
Comdrpopnfresh - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkI think the changes in the 4870 show that AMD was smart in designing their current generation of graphics products.
They were able to provide an appreciable performance increase by adding more memory. In doing this, they saved money by not have to tape out new die alterations, and don't drastically alter power consumption.
Nvidia, on the other hand, didn't seem to be able to provide as much of a performance improvement, while increasing power consumption and probably having to spend on the new core.
Paladin1211 - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkUnlike the GTX 260 Core 216, this card isn't an epic fail at its price point... Reply
AlB80 - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - link"It still draws a significant amount more power at idle and load than the GTX 260."
They still using catalyst 8.7. Reply
dennilfloss - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkI am confused when you say it does not tax memory as much because with QTP3, I sometimes reach around 950MB of VRAM use, so I'd think the extra 512MB would make quite a bit of difference in not having to use the hard disk instead of some VRAM. I think most of the Oblivion players interested in the 1GB version of the 4870 will have extra texture mods installed. Do you use one of the more detailed texture packs in Oblivion or is your Oblivion just vanilla?
dennilfloss Reply
grmnasasin0227 - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkSo now that the 1GB is out, when will we be able to see the 4870X2 compared to a 4870 1GB in CF? I'd like to know which is the better buy. Reply
Kulamata - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkI would have liked to have seen the 4850 XFire included; I think it (they?) can run with this pack. I'm keeping my eye open for the promised 4850 X2; we'll see if they're a real product. If so, I'm quite interested for 1920 X 1200. Reply
emilyek - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkCan you guys show frames for something other than 2560 x 1600 and maxed AA/AF? Not everyone has a 30" Apple Cinema Display or better.
Cards that are neck and neck at that resolution very well might have anywhere from a 10-20 fps difference at, say, 1680 x 1050, where most people game. Reply
AnnonymousCoward - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkLook again: the line graphs have your resolution. Reply
devonz - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkPerhaps I have misunderstood something, but particularly for 32 bit Vista and Win XP, I THOUGHT that video memory essentially "used" part of the 4 gigabyte limit for RAM usable by the OS. So, would that mean that if you had two of these in CF you would limit your OS RAM to 2 gigabytes? That seems like a considerable drawback to me. Yes, people could go with 64 bit Vista, but my impression (perhaps not correct) is that this STILL isn't totally as functional (drivers, application/game compatibility, etc) as the 32 bit version. Reply
yyrkoon - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkThe only time you *may* have to worry about dual card encroaching on 2GB of RAM is *if* you use two 1GB cards as singles for a 4 head display. I am fairly certain(but have no hands on) that SLI, and Crossfire are both viewed by Windows as a single piece of hardware, at least as far as the memory is concerned. Again, also fairly certain, but not positive: If you had 2GB of RAM, and somehow your card(s) had 2GB of RAM that could be seen by the OS, that you would not have to worry about things until you went over 2GB of system RAM. Then, the possibility of your system having less than 2GB available for processes, and applications could be a problem.
This is a reason why you will see system vendors selling systems with 3GB of RAM that have Video cards that have 256MB of RAM or better. Depending on the BIOS, and the motherboards ability to 'hoist memory', with 4GB of physical system RAM installed, you typically 'lose' at least 500MB to system resources(which include stuffs like I/O ports,graphics cards 'aperture', etc). Just as an example, I have two motherboards from the same company here, one is an nVidia AM2 board, and the other is an Intel P35/ICH9R board. The AM2 system board can report 3.5GB available to the user in Windows, while the Intel chipset board can only give the user 3.25GB. Both used the same exact additional hardware(NV 7600GT 256MB, and an Intel GbE Pro PCIe card).
All the above said, I tend to view 'upgrading' a system to 3GB of system RAM as retrograding, with no thought given to future upgrade-ability. My belief here is that you can *someday* want to upgrade to 8GB of RAM, and while it *is* possible to have existing 1x1GB sticks, and buying single 2GB sticks; It is better to buy matched pairs for a single channel for use with dual channel memory. Even if you do not plan on getting into 64bit operating systems soon. Also, that extra 256-512MB of RAM can make a noticeable difference at times.
Another thing to think about is the 2GB vs 4GB 'issue'. A lot of people seem to be thinking that if a game can only address up to 2GB of memory(and most games are in this category), that it makes little to no sense to upgrade to more memory. This is false. The reason is very similar to why dual core CPU at the same clock rate as a single core CPU will preform better: Availability of system resources, and competition of said resources between the OS, and other applications. I.E. if you have an additional 1.5GB of RAM, you game can use up to 2GB, while the OS can do whatever it wants with this additional 1.5GB before going to the swap disk. Windows hitting the swap disk can be very bad for performance, especially if running applications, and the swap disk are on the same hard drive. Granted, this performance gain from increasing system memory *is* noticeable, but is not as good as 'doubling' you GPU power. So, it really depends on what you plan on doing with said system, and other constraints to know which makes more sense for you personally.
As another example: Photoshop can and will use up to 2GB of system memory without using the /3GB boot switch, but also can use more memory above 2GB as swap(scratch disk) on up to another 2GB I beleive. This is before it starts hitting the hard disk(s). For the casual Photoshop users, this may not be a huge deal, but for professional image retouchers who work in 16bit color depth(or greater) at very high resolutions, this can make a very big difference. Especially when using math intensive filters.
Anyways, if you're interested in learning more about the limitations of 32bit Windows, you can always visit Microsofts website, and start by searching for '/PAE'. You can also dig though their pages(although some of it will take some time to find), and find every single last detail on the matter. Reply
Ezareth - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkMy gaming Rig is running good ole 32Bit XP with 2 Gigabytes of system memory. I Have NEVER come close to using all 2 Gigabytes in any gaming, or while using photoshop, surfing the web etc.
My graphics card is a 4870X2 which while it has 2 GB of memory only 1 GB is addressable by the system. If I'm not mistaken these dual GPU cards are nice because the system only addresses a single cards memory while the graphics card itself uses the full amount. When I installed my 4870X2 I still show the full 2GB of memory on my system so I know this is the case as my sound card and other internals take up around half a gig combined.
I think if you crossfire on the Mobo the system has to address both cards memory, but XP is much better as using memory than Vista. I still consider Vista a giant bloatware operating system, DirectX 10 is just not enough reason for me to switch. I'm waiting on Windows 7. Reply
yyrkoon - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkIn XP x32, a single application can only use up to 2GB of memory without using the /3GB boot switch. The /3GB boot switch *can* cause system instabilities, AND the application has to be written to take advantage of this additional memory to begin with.
Now onto your situation: As far as I know, you could have up to 3GB of memory installed on your system and not be affected by your Video cards memory wise. Right now, the biggest card I know of (consumer grade) only has 1GB of memory, so the 4GB x32 limitation is satisfied. If however there were a consumer grade card that had 2GB addressable . . . I am not sure 100% either way how this would affect things, but I am pretty sure, you would lose some of, or all of that extra 1GB of system RAM.
My knowledge of how SLI work(low level) is very limited, but for all intents and purposes, the reason why 2x 1GB cards would never affect system memory on up to 3GB, is that the OS sees these card as a single piece of hardware(as far as I know). Reply
Ezareth - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkOhh I also have to note that I use a Samsung 305T(30 inch) monitor and can play crysis on High settings at playable framerates using DirectX9 and XP with this card and I'm using a severely outdated Athlon 64 3700+ processor. I just don't understand how you guys are getting such low framerates at 1920X1600 unless it is Vista and DirectX 10. Reply
The0ne - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - link2Gig is ok for normal usage but if you switch to being a medium user to a power user than 2gigs is not enough. Your photoshop use is probably dealing with small and simple files for example. I don't play enough games to comment on Crysis but from what I've read it's a hogger. Reply
piroroadkill - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - link2GB is fine for almost all usage, and I have 4 monitors on my main rig - I do see the need for more RAM though, once you start taking the piss, by, for example running two copies of WoW @ 1680x1050 at max settings on the same rig, as well as irc, dc++, music player, web browser, etc etc, it's swapping time Reply
devonz - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkOops, I didn't read the last comment regarding memory usage. Still, seems like I'm correct and the answer to my question is yes. That's a BIG drawback for doing CF with these cards then. Reply
abzillah - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkWell, your perception is wrong. I haven't had any issues with 64bit vista. Maybe you should try 64bit vista and refresh your perception of it. Reply
smilingcrow - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkI have Vista x64 installed and it supports 99% of the features that are important to me in my everyday XP SP3 install. The problem is that the 1% of features that are missing are more important to me than the improvements that Vista brings so I'm sticking with XP for now.
Missing features – ATI Remote Wonder (only works with Media Centre), DVBViewer (doesn't remember playback position for videos), iTunes etc (don't support the Multimedia keyboard keys if the application doesn't have focus).
DerekWilson - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkthere is no longer any reason to use 32bit vista over 64bit vista ... the initial problems have been resolved, and the apps that have 64bit specific issues are few and far between. if you use one of those apps, sure that's an issue, but in general 64 bit vista is the way to go.
in fact, we'd recommend 64bit over 32bit every time for the gamer. we do all of our game testing with 64bit as well, and we haven't had any issues for a very long time that were related to the 64bit operating system.
yyrkoon - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - link"While the 4870 512MB part can be had for $20 or $30 cheaper than the 4870 1GB (if you shop around), many of the 512MB variants are still priced in the same range as the 1GB cards. There is no reason to buy the 512MB part if prices are equal, so we hope to see a downward shift in price for the 512MB version."
I can think of at least one reason why not to buy the 1GB version given the prices are the same.
A person using a 32bit version of Windows, with 4GB of memory installed. More video ram used = less available system memory available for use in windows. Granted for some this may not be a HUGE reason, but for people like me who try to build the best all around system for gaming, image editing etc, this can make a difference(especially if you're not cranking the resolution up). Eventually, I will be going to a 64bit OS, so buying 2x2GB makes more sense than wasting money on a 1x1GB stick, and loosing that little extra performance from a dual channel setup.
Now here is to Windows 7 being released tomorrow ; ) Reply
DerekWilson - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkyou are right about the effect of that case, but i think, at least for gaming, because graphics is the largest bottleneck, you would want your graphics card to have the best advantage possible.
in the general case there is no longer any reason to use 32bit vista. we only use 64bit for all our graphics testing.
there may be a few isolated apps here and there that have issues, but the problem is no where near as wide spread as it was the first year or so. for anyone who wants vista, we recommend 64 bit.
i do get the continued attraction to windows XP though ... i'm not a huge fan of vista myself, and xp 64bit still isn't a great option.
but if we're talking about 32bit XP then some of our benchmarks would not make any sense (DX10) and that might change things as well ... so there really its both more an less of an issue at the same time :-) Reply
yyrkoon - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkWell, in my case, I did not adopt early into Vista, and yes if I were to buy Vista right now, it would probably be Retail Ultimate. So, I would have a 32bit version, and a 64bit version. Anyways, it will probably be around the time SP2 comes out for Vista before I will consider buying it, and until then I will stick with what I have (which is XP Pro x32).
About my Windows 7 comment, I was sort of serious in that I may even wait until it comes out before making a move, but I know it is not due out right now. The thing for me concerning Direct3D 10 is that most of the games right now are not using it properly, or to its full potential. That, and it really does not(right now) make games look all that much better, OR perform better than Direct3D 9(which would be the main reason I would want 'dx10' to begin with).
Also just a FYI, if you purchase a 32bit copy of Vista, Microsoft will ship you a 64bit copy for the cost of shipping. Some versions of Vista may not retail as 64bit copies, but all version except for Home personal (I beleive) have their 64bit counterparts. At the very least, I am sure business on up have 64bit versions.
XP Pro x64, and Windows 2003 share a lot of architecture as you may already know, so maybe this is why XP x64 does not work well for everyone. However, I have a customer that runs XP x64 on an Asus SLI board, with SLI 7800GTX's, and aside from the occasional quirk, it seems to run very well. I actually had to reinstall the OS for him a few months back because he had somehow hosed his install, and all drivers(except one) installed very easily. I do not recall which driver gave me hassles, but it was just PiTA, that lasted at most 30 minutes until I sorted it out. Most games as I understand it will work with XP x64 just fine, with a few that require work-arounds, if they do not already outright work. Reply
BikeDude - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - link[quote]i'm not a huge fan of vista myself[/quote]
You're a technical competent person. If you disable superfetch, the glass look, UAE, and a handful of other features, you will have a very XP-like experience, except with proper DX10 support and better 64-bit drivers.
Rune Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkActually, SuperFetch is one of the features I like (for the most part - the increased hard drive noise at idle can be irritating). What irks me is stuff like the modified dialogs. It now takes a couple more clicks and opened windows to get to screen savers, resolution, network settings, etc. I can live with all that, of course, so I'm using Vista on virtually all of my PCs. (I've still got an XP laptop I use for a few things, though.) Reply
Spoelie - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkThe difference between 3,5GB and 3,0GB will hardly be noticeable. If it is, then installing the 32bit version for a new build is not the smartest thing to do. Reply
ilkhan - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkSo you are saying that doubling the ram (without any speed improvements) on the 4870 gives a bigger increase than increasing the raw power om the GTX260?
I like the accessability of your benchmarks, but sometimes they are just really hard to trust. Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkYes, that's what we're saying. The Core 216 has 12.5% more computation power, but it has the same amount of memory and the same memory bandwidth. It appears we are now at the point where at 1920x1200 and especially 2560x1600, 1GB GPUs see a decent performance boost over 512MB cards. It's not guaranteed, but personally I think we'll see more titles using larger textures in the future - or at least giving users the option for higher res textures.
But of course we still have the platform question to a certain degree. If you want SLI or CrossFire down the road, you need to consider the choice between NVIDIA or Intel/ATI chipsets (until X58 at least). I give Intel the advantage on chipset, but personally I think SLI is better overall than CrossFire.
Power is something else to consider; there's really no reason the 4870 can't idle at 4850 levels; that a single 4870 at idle uses more power than 4850 CF is pretty shocking - to me at least. Load power is almost tied, but a 45W idle power increase is really lousy. Sure, that only works out to $30 to $40 per year running 24/7, but that's also heat, which generally means more noise and wear and tear.
My personal opinion differs somewhat from Derek here. If you want maximum performance for the dollar, the HD 4870 1GB appears the best choice. If you're looking at the entire package, I'm more inclined to go with the $260 GTX 260 for the above reasons (power being a major one). If you're then looking at SLI or CrossFire, while I would still take the X38/X48 over the 780i/790i, and the NVIDIA chipsets are notoriously power hungry, it's close but I'd still go with GTX 260. Since I'm already quite happy with my X38 board, however, I don't think I'll be upgrading my GPU to the NVIDIA camp for a while yet. Reply
Finally - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkYes, please! Check on that. A german site has dug into the underflashing story and found out that a properly undervolted HD4870 uses less power in idle than a HD4850!
If you are ready to flash, you have the lower power card right there.
http://www.computerbase.de/news/hardware/grafikkar...">http://www.computerbase.de/news/hardwar...ten/ati/... Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkI would hope that someday soon AMD will address this with drivers or something... but seriously they dropped the ball here. I mean, 4850 and 4870 are the same GPU, so the only difference is clock speed and voltages. You can't expect me to believe that in this day and age they can't get clock and voltage adjustments to work on-the-fly. A BIOS flash can work it seems, but that just begs the question: why wasn't the BIOS programmed "properly" in the first place? (Possibly they discovered in testing that there were problems with the different voltages?) Users should *NOT* have to flash a GPU BIOS for stuff like proper power saving. Reply
Finally - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkHmm. You are the test-guy. You should know (and tell us, please! :p)
@HD4870vs.HD4850: You forgot 1 thing: the HD4870 has GDDR5, but the HD4850 has GDDR3. As it has been proven, this makes a big difference. So you can't say that they are the same. GDDR5 seems to be much more undervolting and power-saving-friendly. Reply
Spoelie - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkCould you check with ATi if powerplay (down throttling clockspeed *and* voltage) is in the pipeline for a future driver release?
I've been hearing forum voices saying "it's in the next release" for quite some time now.
Jedi2155 - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkIn higher resolutions, I think this is a reality.
I think the article is very truthful and quite a few other sites and come to back this up.
There is a problem with the frame buffer at higher resolutions and settings, especially if you understand how anti-aliasing among other things work.
Use Rivatuner to check the memory usage on the frame buffer yourself at those resolutions.... Reply
NullSubroutine - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkI don't have a problem with them using 8.7 for the 4870, far as I have last heard its a great driver for that card. But that is a horrible driver to use for the 4870 X2. While it wasn't the card being looked at, it can skew the results if you are trying to decide which card to get. Reply
Tiamat - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkPage 2:
512MB -> 1024MB is a 100% improvement (i.e. double the ram) not 50% improvement. 50% improvement would have been to 768MB ram. Reply
DerekWilson - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkheh ... you are quite right. sorry about that. i'll fix this. Reply
Spoelie - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkPower consumption: "Significantly" more in *both* idle and load?
idle yes, load no Reply
DerekWilson - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkby significant i mean the differences is not negligible Reply
Diosjenin - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkI was rather under the impression that the 1GB per/2GB total RAM on the 4870 X2 was generally the reason it could be found in many cases to scale better than two 4870s, since the latter option included only 512MB per/1GB total RAM.
Now that we have 4870s with 1GB RAM, can you stick two of them together and do a 2x 4870 1GB vs 4870 X2 comparison to see how that can affect the scaling disparities we've seen there before? Reply
carmaster22 - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkHow come you don't include the NVIDIA 9800 series cards anymore?
They were proven to perform just as well and better than the GTX series and there's many people that have them. Reply
SiliconDoc - Friday, October 03, 2008 - linkIt's to make it as confusing as possible to we the consumer. No matter WHAT review site I go to - they are absolutely CERTAIN to leave out a couple of KEY cards in the reviews - so that it makes it absolutely near IMPOSSIBLE to make a reasonable decision without endless HOURS of finding, comparing, checking the system stats, of various reviews....
It's like corporate code - but what really happens is the goobers are thinking, thinking, thinking - and they think so much and so !bleepin! hard, that they come up with some cool points, and interesting facts - but alas - you still don't know what you want to know.
Whatever, it's so frustrating - I'm sending $100 paypal to the first author that actually satisfies a good lineup in review. Reply
Goty - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkThe only 9800 series card that could outperform the 4870 was the 9800GX2, and even that fell behind the 4870 and the GTX200s when you started cranking up the resolution and IQ. Reply
daniyarm - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - link8800gt SLI beat 4750 in several tests even at hi-res. People that own single or sli 8800 or 9800 want to know how the cards compare. What's the point of a review that compares only new gen cards and give absolutely no information for people that want to know if they need to upgrade or not. Reply
daniyarm - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkI meant 4870. Reply
Patrick Wolf - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkWhere do you get your info?
The 9800 GX2 can be had for under $300 and is also very comparable to the 8800gt SLI. If you have an SLI mainboard and an 8800gt, a very cheap and viable upgrade would be to throw in another 8800gt. If you lack the SLI mainboard, bite on the GX2 and sell your current card.
Same goes for the 9800 GTX and GTX+ if you're going SLI with them.
The following graphs speak for themselves. All the above solutions are still a great contender, worthy of inclusion.
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Patrick Wolf - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkOops.
Oblivion: http://www.anandtech.com/GalleryImage.aspx?id=3189">http://www.anandtech.com/GalleryImage.aspx?id=3189 Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkConsidering you just linked a recent review that has all of the pertinent information, then throw in the cluttered nature of those charts, and I'm of the opinion that dropping most of the cards and just keeping the more recent stuff makes a lot of sense.
FYI, outside of a few games (The Witcher 2xAA, ETQW 4xAA, COD4 4xAA) the 9800 GTX+ is very close to the performance of the GTX 260. That's understandable, since they have similar architectures. Here's the theoretical performance overview:
192 SPs at 1242MHz = 715.4 GFLOPS
Core clock of 576 MHz = 36.9 GT/s texture fillrate
28 ROPs at 576 MHz = 16.1 GP/s pixel fillrate
448-bit RAM at 999MHz = 111.9 GB/s
128 SPs at 1836MHz = 940 GFLOPS
Core clock of 738 MHz = 47.2 GT/s texture fillrate
16 ROPs at 738 MHz = 11.8 GP/s pixel fillrate
256-bit RAM at 1100MHz = 70.4 GB/s
So the GTX 260 has substantially more bandwidth (59%) and pixel fillrate (36%), while the 9800 GTX+ has more theoretical GFLOPS (31%) and texture processing power (28%). The GTX 260 ends up faster overall - I'm not sure it ever trails - but there are many games where the difference between the two is only about 10%. The 8800 GT, for the record, is usually 65 to 75% of the performance of GTX 260. Reply
Spoelie - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkThe 9800GT is a rebadged 8800GT, which sits below any ATi 4 series .
The 9800GTX+ is competitive with the 4850, but that's a lower price/market segment (target resolution 1600x1200/1680x1050 ?).
This is an article about cards that run newer games on 1920x1200 and higher comfortably, and well, the 9 series just don't make that cut anymore. Anandtech included all possible contenders except maybe for some SLI configurations. Reply
Jovec - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkAT is wrong in what many, if not most, of us want in these reviews. Simply, we have our specific system, and want to know if a single upgraded part or parts (when it comes to new platforms) justifies the purchase price. Obvioulsy impractical, but there is no reason AT can't build and keep 1-2 systems per year, for a 2-3 year moving window, of the most common mid-range builds and include those benchmarks as a reference in all reviews.
The best example of this is the 8800GTS which I assume many of us still own. We don't care how the 4870 runs on the Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 @ 3.20GHz used in the review, we care if the card will boost our FPS enough to warrant purchasing for our computer. It's a different type of comparison than the GPU-limited and CPU-limited tests they currently run, but very useful to the majority of us.
We can say "My system is very close to the Fall '07 system, so if I buy this new card I'll get a similar performance increase."
poohbear - Sunday, September 28, 2008 - link"The best example of this is the 8800GTS which I assume many of us still own. We don't care how the 4870 runs on the Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 @ 3.20GHz used in the review, we care if the card will boost our FPS enough to warrant purchasing for our computer. It's a different type of comparison than the GPU-limited and CPU-limited tests they currently run, but very useful to the majority of us."
please anandtech show us graphs that tell us if its worth it to upgrade from an 8800gt or similar hardware, that's what the majority of us own and are interested in knowing. This 1gb 4870 is interesting and all, but why would you do an article like this before addressing the aforementioned question that is pertinent to 90% of the rest of us?
PrinceGaz - Friday, September 26, 2008 - linkI must concur with this guy.
Whilst I am more than capable of internally extrapolating other test results to these latest ones, I have an 8800GTS (640MB) so with all reviews on AT have to go through a double compare of the closest in the review to what I have.
Please Anand & co, include at least high-end cards from nVidia and AMD from two generations ago in all graphics-card reviews, and mid-range cards from ther previous-generation where relevant. We don't all buy a new card every few months, most people will buy a new graphics card every two years or less often, even quite a few of us who visit this site every day.
When I only see comparisons to other current cards as in this review, I invariably abort reading it and find a review on another site which includes a wider range of cards, which is a shame as I enjoy the technical info here- but if the only comparison provided is between current generation competitors, neither of which I have, then all the graphs are pointless as I (and most other people) have previous generation cards. Reply
SiliconDoc - Friday, October 03, 2008 - linkThat would be imformative and then we'd be informed. In tihs case, you must be a $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4 loaded supergame monster - and so it doesn't matter.
Just crank up another 4 or 5 hundred on the collegiate mastercard if you blow the first couple of choices...you know that can be the geekfest lan machine or whatever. Reply
saiku - Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - linkI must also agree to the two posters above me. I too have a 8800 GTS and would like to know if this card makes sense for an upgrade. Can AT please keep 1-2 year old tech around when they talk about new parts? Reply
formulav8 - Saturday, September 27, 2008 - linkAnandtech finally game AMD the props they deserved along time ago instead of kissing up to nvidia who had no care in the world about charging almost a literal arm and leg. Not that AMD/ATI cares all that much but at least they didn't milk us for all we're worth like nVidia did the past couple years. Just my opinion of course :)
Decent review by the way. I do agree though that reviews should be more real world in the sense that they be reviewed with more reasonable, mainstream components like a Phenom, Higher End X2, and Low-Mid end Core2, memory configs like 2GB at 667/800 mhz, ect... Since that is where most gamers will be at. Again, just my opinion :)
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SiliconDoc - Saturday, December 27, 2008 - linkHow about mainstream monitor resolutions ?
Oh that's right , the highend cards blow away mainstream monitor resolutions now.
Well, I guess they had better start including the 2 grand required for proper monitor upgrades to run the resolutions they post all their reviews in now.
Somehow that giant 30 inch Dell DWP (or two or three) 2560x1600 sitting in the test lab isn't magically appearing attached to their readers gaming rigs. Reply
Jorgisven - Monday, September 29, 2008 - linkThe trouble with using mid-range components is that they can unneccessarily bottleneck the performance in ways that can affect different GPU's differently, in different situations. If you scale back your components and then put a $500 GPU in, the results would be skewed, especially at higher details. Since this is a higher end GPU, one would expect that you would have components relative in price as well. Reply
SiliconDoc - Friday, October 03, 2008 - linkThat's not the worst of it Jordan ...
How often do you run a 2550x 1900 or whatever supermegga massive giganto resolution ?
I guess I'll have to take a rtip to Taiwan for my 37" super rezz megoo mighty mouse monitor... that's only $2,567.98 plus tax and overseas shipping to even run the ding dang rezzzzzzzzzzzzzes they test in nowadyas.
Yeah, gee, we've all got these monitors that run this extraordinary resolution that you CANNOT EVEN FIND in the retail store market - and barely online when you try.
( A friend of mine can't stop cranking up his rezzz - he just got 2 more monitors last night - so he cranks the thing up till the monitors are buzzing and hissing LOL - then I send him a pic or a screenshot or something - and say blah blah - and he can't read the thing - the lettering is the size of the ding dang microdot.
.000000035 um lettering. lol
He doesn't READ much. rofl. Reply
Patrick Wolf - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkWhile you can go back to previous articles which have basically the same Test Setup with the same games, it would be very convenient if they would include cards from the 9 series in their newer articles. Reply
Hxx - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkWhy should they be compared? 9800s are old tech, not in high demand anymore.Thats why
About the article, the writer did a very good job. I'm surprised to see the 4870 coming up in front of the gtx280 in some games. The 4870 1gb is the best card from a price/performance perspective.
Looks like Nvidia is due for another price drop, lol. Good job ATI. Reply
ZoZo - Friday, September 26, 2008 - linkComments like yours is exactly why NVIDIA decided to rename the GeForce 9 line to GT 100. Reply
Griswold - Friday, September 26, 2008 - linkSo, you claim that the rebadged GF8 aka GF9 is the same as the two GTX models they have at the top now? Go take a nap... Reply
homerdog - Monday, September 29, 2008 - linkNo, NVIDIA is supposedly releasing some G92b based cards under the moniker of "GT 100-series".
SiliconDoc - Friday, October 03, 2008 - linkOh forgot the stupid google link
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=2560x1600...">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=2560x1600... Reply
SiliconDoc - Friday, October 03, 2008 - linkGosh I only need $1,549.99 to get me my 2650x1600 monitor - yeah wouldn't I spend and extra 20 bucks on that 1 meg videocard...
Yah buddy, makes sense me - I'm a hick from hickville - gonna gets me that corporate CAD monitor real soon now.
(good gawd)
No worries I love anandtech - it's just we don't get all the superfreebies - so ya know the 2 grand monitor is kinda wife-repelling. Reply
fcx56 - Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - linkHa, consider yourself lucky! I paid $3K for mine back in 2004, WITH the student discount Reply
SiliconDoc - Saturday, December 27, 2008 - linkYes, you and almost noone else is the point. BTW - keep that student grant money spending thing on the low low. :-)
Oh, yes of course Chancellor, my education woul;d have absolutely suffered immeasurable harm without my 2560x1600 gaming... err..uhh... ahh.. unmmm. I meant cad workshop / artistic design monitor. I thank you Sir, and the taxpayers, for your concern. Reply
harbin - Thursday, September 25, 2008 - linkbut i am no gamer, i really don't know. Reply


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Sunrise Day Camp is a summer day camp dedicated to children with cancer and their siblings. Attendance at the camp is fee of charge. Located on 95 acres in the Henry Kaufman Campgrounds in Pearl River, Sunrise Day Camp and its partner camp, Sunrise Day Camp Long Island, located in Wheatley Heights, are the only full summer camps in the country dedicated to children with cancer, according to a press release from the JCC of Northern Westchester.
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'A FAVOURITE spot in front of the window is very common," says Winnipeg veterinarian Dr. Larry Adelman when asked where his clients most often carry out pet ownership's most painful ritual.
Last December, after enjoying one last Christmas together as a family, Derek Foreman and his wife said goodbye to their beloved Buster on a blanket on the kitchen floor. Buster's best canine buddy, Nano, was also present and let out a single bark when his owner carried the blanketed bundle out to Adelman's car.
Forcing the arthritic 13-year-old border collie-Samoyed cross, who was in kidney and liver failure, to spend his final moments trembling on a steel examination table was not an option, Foreman says.
"The last couple of times we had taken him to the vet, it hadn't been a very good experience," he recalls. "They had to draw blood and couldn't find a vein anymore. He urinated in the vet's office.
"Also, getting Buster to climb up into the car and then driving him across town to a medical place just seemed cold and awful."
It was a surprisingly gentle death, Foreman says, given how Buster had spent most of that day grinding his teeth and shaking from the pain, despite being heavily medicated.
"Once the first injection took place, we knew he wasn't hurting anymore."
That first syringe put Buster into a state of deep sedation so he wouldn't feel the second one: a fatal dose of sodium pentobarbital.
"Quietly, their heart stops and then their breathing slows down and then stops so they go right to sleep," Adelman explains. "It's a beautiful thing."
Adelman makes a similar house call nearly every weekday, usually in the evenings.
At-home pet euthanasia has become a growth industry in North America, largely due to an aging population -- both the two-legged and four-legged kind.
"Pets are living healthier longer, just like people, because we have better care for them. We can do more and clients are willing to do more," says Adelman, who recently limited his Dr. A Housecall Vet practice to end-of-life procedures. He also owns Seven Oaks Veterinary Hospital.
When he graduated from veterinary school in 1981, there was nothing to give cats to safely ameliorate their pain, he says. Now, there's a medication that can be rubbed on the gums and lasts for up to 10 hours.
An estimated 38 per cent of households have a pet, according to the Canadian Veterinary Medical Association. And given how, over recent decades, people have been treating their animals more like furry family members than property, it's not surprising that our high standards for their comfort and care would extend to that final vet visit.
Pet owners pay a premium for an end-of-life house call -- around $200, which includes pre-sedation and euthanasia, plus a $50 transport fee. (Clinic fees start at around $120, depending on size of the animal). Cremation costs extra, starting at about $100 for a communal cremation. A private cremation, where the ashes are returned to the owner in an urn, can cost up to $200.
And it's not just dogs and cats. Dr. Lisa Sawka, who has been making house calls full-time since 2007, has also euthanized rabbits and birds. "Any animal is part of the family," says the owner of Animal Ark Veterinarian Services, who did 10 end-of-life house calls in January alone.
Winter is peak season for that kind of house call, says Dr. Pat Murtagh, owner of Mobile Veterinary Service since 1984. "When the cold first comes, all sorts of conditions and diseases get worse, not just arthritis," he says.
Sawka says older pet owners, in particular, may have a hard time transporting their animal, especially a large dog, to a vet clinic when the time comes. Or an animal might be so ill that moving it only heightens the suffering.
Also, she recalls working out of a clinic and worrying about grief-stricken pet owners getting into their vehicles and driving home afterward. It's a heartbreaking experience to walk through a busy waiting room carrying only a pet's collar or leash.
A death in the family is always traumatic, but even moreso when the loss is sudden, as Jan Finch discovered when her 10-year-old golden retriever, Beau, was diagnosed with a hemangiosarcoma, an aggressive tumour that bursts when it reaches a certain size.
"We were told we had to say goodbye to him that day," Finch recalls. Back home, the family, including Zoe, another golden retriever, gathered around Beau one last time.
"My husband and our daughters and I spread blankets on the front lawn and we fed him steak and ice cream and petted him and we just had time as a family," she says. When Adelman arrived later that afternoon, they moved into the living room, where Beau had his bed.
"We were able to say goodbye to Beau in our own home and in our own time," Finch says. "The nicest thing about having someone come to the house is being able to have your pet calm and comfortable and to cradle their head in your arms or lap. And then to see how peacefully they slip away."


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From the NY State Thruway: Exit at Route 57 (exit 38). After the tollbooth, turn right on Route 57 towards the Village of Liverpool. At Tulip Street, turn right and go one block. Liverpool Library will be on the left side at the corner of Tulip and Second Street.
From Interstate 81 North: Take the Liverpool Exit to Onondaga Lake Pkwy (Rte 370). In the Village of Liverpool, follow Rte 370 West (called Second St. in the Village) to the corner of Tulip St. Liverpool Library will be on the left.
From Interstate 81 South: Take 7th North St. exit. Bear right on 7th North St. and follow it to the end. Take a left on Electronics Parkway. Go to the end and take a right on Old Liverpool Road. At the Liverpool Village center (Heid's Corners) follow Rte. 370 West to the corner of Tulip St. Liverpool Library will be on the left.
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The absolute worst goal you can ever picture in the history of any sport. Often times, Demitri goals can be seen in NHL 08, when incredibly terrible goals are scored. However, more often than not, give the controller to a person who cannot play the game at all, and atleast 1 demitri goal will be scored.
Sam and Jason are playing NHL 08. Sam shoots the puck from the point. It bounces off of 3 players, hits the back of the boards, bounces back, hits the goalie in the head, hits the post, comes back and hits the goalie in the back and trickles in.
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IT is no coincidence Bury chairman Stewart Day has chosen the week leading up to today's big kick-off to give fans a revealing insight into the inner workings of the club's summer transfer dealings.
The 32-year-old chief has spoken candidly, reassuring fans that big-name summer signings like Ryan Lowe, Nicky Adams and Danny Mayor have not broken the bank.
And the property developer was at pains to stress that his head would always rule his heart when making decisions, despite his passion for the game.
Day has never made any bones about the fact he intends to run Bury as he would any other business – to make a profit.
There is no doubt the Shakers chief has taken a hands-on approach, going as far as interviewing each and every one of his summer signings.
It is perhaps an indictment of the way football has been run over the years that the concept of a footballer sitting a job interview – like any other potential recruit would in any other business – seems an alien one.
It is clear the practical side of the interview process would still far outweigh any head-to-head with the chairman.
But it is certainly right and proper that players – who command much higher salaries than us mere mortals – should be pressed on their motivation and aspiration.
This kind of insight into the processes and policies Day has put into place since taking over at Bury is intended to speak directly to the fans.
Believe it or not, but there is still a significant minority – alluded to by manager David Flitcroft in his press conference ahead of today's League Two opener at home to Cheltenham – who still need to be won over.
Pundits, as well as the bookmakers, might be falling over themselves to tip the Shakers for big things this season, but a section of the support remain unconvinced.
The problem for some die-hard fans is not believing Flitcroft's squad has what it takes to win promotion. What they are struggling to comprehend is just how the club can afford it.
It is only just over a year ago that Day rescued Bury from a winding up order.
Shakers fans have also been burned in the past, making it into the second tier of English football, only for the financial rug to be pulled from under them.
Day has echoed that same dream of Championship football, which may explain why some supporters have been spooked.
But while questions remain about just where the money has come from to kick-start this great old club, the chairman is at least doing his best to prove there is a good deal more substance in his business plan than those put in place by some of the chairmen who have gone before him.


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Philadelphia Eagles rookie quarterback Nick Foles has a broken right hand, and coach Andy Reid said Michael Vick will likely start against the New York Giants in Sunday's season finale.
Reid said Monday that Foles broke his throwing hand in the second quarter of a 27-20 loss to Washington, but returned to the game after X-rays at the stadium were negative.
Vick hasn't played since suffering a concussion during a loss to the Cowboys on Nov. 11. The Eagles (4-11) went 1-5 with the 23-year-old Foles as the starter.
• Cornerback Sean Smith, a fourth-year pro from from Utah, escaped serious injury when he hurt his left knee in Miami's win over Buffalo on Sunday, a source familiar with the diagnoisis said. An MRI showed the injury was only a bruise.


text: Pastor Ashley Day was born in Welling, England in 1928 and began his career as the Administrator of a school of languages in London. His life was turned upside down, when in 1954 at a Billy Graham Crusade at Haringay Arena, the Lord called Ashley and his wife Edna into the ministry. This commitment found expression as He eagerly began preaching as a circuit preacher in rural England. In 1959 the Day family immigrated to the United States and during the next sixteen years Ashley pastored three churches in Oregon before returning to England to minister in a church in Devon. In 1980, he was invited back to the USA to become the pastor of the Coeur d'Alene Bible Church in Idaho, where he served for 23 years.Ashley retired from the Pastoral ministry in 2003, but during the following 11 years, he focused upon Seed-Time Ministries and his weekly radio broadcasts. These are heard throughout Africa and Ireland and are being carried by many local stations in the United States. Another focus of his retirement was getting the messages into book form; publishing twelve Bible commentaries plus an autobiography. Ashley and Edna, were married 61 years, have five children and six grandchildren. Ashley died March 29th 2014 three months after receiving the diagnosis of pancreatic cancer.Seed-Time is continuing to flourish and links can be found to his audio messages, the current Radio Stations that broadcast them and commentary books at the recently updated Seed-Time website www.seedtime.net. The labor of love of those involved while he was alive has continued and we, his family, are excited to see what the Lord will do with this ministry even after He has called its founder home! Please contact us there if you have any questions about this ministry.