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JBL On Stage II for iPod
I have the first On Stage in my office so I don't have to listen to the tinny so-called "speakers" that are built in to the iMac. Love ya, Apple, but those speakers suck. Anyhow, it is tiny, provides good sound, charges your iPod and this version has a remote. Remotes are fun and stuff.

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Albatron and ASUS GeForce 6800 Ultra Vendor Reviewby Derek Wilson on 7/18/2004 1:00 AM EST
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ReapeRalex - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - linkI come here first whenever I'm the market for new toys, good site :)
Could you include Doom3 in the benchmarks for these reviews? Apperantly Doom3 can push overclocked cards over the edge that might otherwise appear stable. Lets face it Doom3 and Half Life 2 will the be main game on peoples minds who are looking to upgrade to these new cards (I just hope a Half Life 2 benchmark is available soon so I can make an informed decision on which card to get :) ).
Anyway, great site, always informative and well written :) Reply
mjz5 - Sunday, July 18, 2004 - linkgood review DerekWilson.. and true, we don't need to see 100s of different games benchmarked, this article was created to illustrate the difference between the and only the two makers. Reply
pookie69 - Sunday, July 18, 2004 - linkNice article. Simple and straight to the point.
Just one thing - the noise tests - i think it would be a good idea to perform two sets of tests, one with the cards under load, one when they are both idle. It would be interesting to see exactly how much the noise of some of these cards jumps up by (or not) during gaming.
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shuttleboi - Sunday, July 18, 2004 - linkCan you please provide heat and noise measurements for other cards as well, particularly the ATI x800 cards? Reply
Chapbass - Sunday, July 18, 2004 - link"Interestingly, the Albatron had its core temperature warning level set at 125 degrees Celsius, while the ASUS was up at 135."
Something might be telling me the whole 125 degrees celcius might be a mistake?
but...ya never know...
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retrospooty - Sunday, July 18, 2004 - linkDOOM 3 BABY !!! :D Reply
DerekWilson - Sunday, July 18, 2004 - linkWe didn't really need to go heavy on the game tests in order to illustrate how these cards perform in relation to the stock 6800U and 6800UE which have been put through an exhaustive analysis already.
But we really want to bring you guys the info you want to see. If these game tests aren't sufficient, we can add a game and/or change the lineup. We don't want to be too heavy on the game tests, but we do want the games we tests to be relevant.
Just let us know what you want, and we'll get it into our upcoming reviews.
Thanks for the feedback! Reply
Pollock - Sunday, July 18, 2004 - linkAnd Aquamark isn't technically a game, even if it's based on one...that kind got me, too. Reply
Jeff7181 - Sunday, July 18, 2004 - linkWow... only 2 game tests? Reply


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Mom Jeans? Elle Fanning Dishes on Her Style + Beauty Inspiration
Wondering where Elle Fanning finds her fashion and beauty inspiration? She goes to some surprising sources—including mom jeans!
-Lucia Peters
There's no denying that the Fanning girls are one of the most stylish sets of sisters in Hollywood. Between their photo shoots, red carpet style, and appearances at runway shows, they're giving the Olsen twins a run for their money—AND they're still, y'know, carrying out acting careers and going to school. How they find the time for it all, we'll never know.
But although big sister Dakota likes getting dressed up for events, she isn't nearly as into fashion and style as little sister Elle is. In a recent interview with The Cut, the 14-year-old dished on what inspires her when it comes to fashion and beauty—and the answers are as eclectic as she is! Here are some of Elle's favorite sources of inspiration:
– Skater punk: Said Elle about her jewelry, "I like necklaces that are short, the way skateboarders used to wear them in the seventies."
– Vintage: Elle is all about vintage shopping, even though it takes an enormous amount of patience to do it. "Yesterday," she noted, "I went to the vintage store Wasteland with my grandmother to look for clothes. People say it's so hard to look in there, because there's so much, but you really just have to focus, get in the zone. I found this amazing floral jumpsuit that's so cool. I have the patience to look through every rack."
Read If You Were a Designer, Would You Lend Kim Kardashian Your Clothes? (Mostly No)
– Haute couture: Said the actress, "At night, after homework, I check out what's going on in the fashion world." These days, she's especially into playing with eye shadow. She said of her recent foray into the world of pink eye makeup, "I was inspired by the Chanel resort show, where the models had on different pastel wigs, and I wanted to do my take on a sixties eye, but with pink."
– Mom jeans: No, really. "For a long time," Elle noted, "I refused to wear jeans. I liked high-waisted pants, but jeans made me feel like I wasn't being unique. Even now, I won't wear the skinny-jean style, because most people wear those—they have to be baggier, boyfriend-looking, or sort of like a mom jean. I'm real funny that way."
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Volkswagen officially launched its solar installation in Tennessee yesterday, which is the largest solar park in the state.
The "Volkswagen Chattanooga Solar Park," which is located next to its manufacturing plant in the city, is 33 acres large and has 33,600 solar modules. The modules, provided by JA Solar, are capable of producing 13.1 gigawatt hours of electricity per year -- or 1,200 homes annually in the city.
"We are proud to power up the biggest solar park of any car manufacturer in North America today," said Frank Fischer, CEO and Chairman of Volkswagen Group of America. "The solar park is another proof point of Volkswagen's worldwide
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"Powering up the solar park also validates the awarding of the LEED Platinum certificate to Volkswagen Chattanooga, which is still the only car factory in the world that has earned such an honor."
The new solar installation expects to meet 12.5 percent of the Volkswagen manufacturing plant's energy needs during full production and 100 percent of its energy needs during non-production times.
Volkswagen added that it would consume 100 percent of its energy from the solar installation instead of selling it to utilities.
While Volkswagen's new solar facility is the largest, it is by no means the only solar project launched by an automaker in the U.S. Back in 2011, General Motors (GM) launched a solar charging canopy in Michigan called
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Since we can't get cable and don't have a dish I didn't have to worry about splitting time between football and cooking on New Year's Day.
A couple of days earlier I took the last chuck roast out of the freezer and after it thawed I seasoned it with salt and pepper on New Year's Eve, and let it rest for a day.
The fire was fairly hot at 350-375 and apple chunks added some really nice color and flavor.
I think it was around 130-135 when I took it off the grill, and after 15-20 minutes I ran it through the slicer.
A horseradish sauce is always good with beef, and leftovers made nice sandwiches with mustard, too.


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Is there contract work for HTML and Adobe Dreamweaver?dreamweaver
Long story short, years ago I worked in IT doing work with Dreamweaver.I'd like to go back into IT and the technology I worked mostly in was Dreamweaver.
Im am updating my old skills on html and css, and Im also learning php and javascript, but in the meantime, do you think html and dreamweaver is enough to get any basic contract work?
Well, there's for HTML and CSS but unfortuantely getting well paid is proving to be challenging. Whether you use Dreamweaver for it or not is up to you.
Now, being a front-end coder nowadays means a lot more than HTML and CSS (although you can specialise, of course) and my only issue here is how you use DreamWeaver. Because if you only use the WYSIWYG view, chances are that you don't control what you're doing and you leaving important decisions to DW's automation and understanding of the code... and that's always a bad, bad idea. No software, no matter how good it is, can substitute hand coding.
Something else is if you later go to code view to clean all the rubbish left behind by DW, or your use the mixed one, where you see both coding and WYSIWYG and code by hand but viewing the result at the same time.
My thoughts would be that Dreamweaver experience would be helpful, but there aren't going to be very many jobs that are going to let you get by with "Just that". On the design side of things, firstly you'll want to know more about hand coding as molona put very well above. In addition though, if you want to be accepted as a candidate for 90%(give or take lol) of the design related jobs out there, you'll want to have a pretty good understanding of Javascript and/or some of the related libraries, in addition to standard html and css skills.
Yes and no, I suspect.
There are always ways of selling yourself, no matter what skill you have, but as they already said, the price might be kind of low if you approach it that way.
I think if you learned HTML5 and also learn to develop mobile-friendly webpages, you'll find that an easier sell these days. And it's not too big a leap from the HTML you already know. Just have to change a few practices.
Dreamweaver in my experience is very oldschool, there are alot more simpler programs out there which do the same job, ie serif web plus. Some people still like to use it though and feel it's better. If you have a high level of experience with it and you have a good portfolio to show, i can't see why you wouldn't be able to get work. Web design though like many businesses is so saturated nowadays.
Nowdays,people are rarely making websites in html and css.The chances for getting contracts are less.I will suggest you to learn CMS(wordpress,Joomla).Now days 60 percent of the websites are developed in wordpress.Its very easy to learn wordpress,as it is a open source.Many plugins are available for integration.
Really? How do you think a CMS outputs a site, if not as HTML and CSS? Unless you have a good understanding of these, you won't get very far with Wordpress or any other CMS.
Really? How do you think a CMS outputs a site, if not as HTML and CSS? Unless you have a good understanding of these, you won't get very far with Wordpress or any other CMS.
CMS allow users with little knowledge of web programming languages or markup languages to create and manage website content with relative ease.There are millions of wordpress themes available as per clients requirement.There are many free third party plugin are available for integration.
That's is true. But Technobear is also correct: In order to make the most of your theme and maximum personalization (and therefore differenciation from the rest) you need a good understanding of HTML and CSS... and with WordPress, JQuery and PHP too.
Yes,i agreed.
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Re-dedication of his monument
In April 2009, a group of family and friends gathered at the burial site of Robert E. Cole and his mother, Eliza Cole, to rededicate their grave. The Cole family had restored both headstones by adding a base that provided details of Robert's military service, which was not on the original headstone. Stanford's Battery fired a 3-shot volley salute from their original Civil War cannon.


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Octahedral RNA origami for simultaneous drug delivery and gene knockdown
An RNA octahedron was designed that can be folded through scaffolded RNA origami on any RNA sequence. By designing specific recognition sites for the Dicer enzyme the structure can release up to 5 siRNAs towards the same gene resulting in effective knockdown. In addition, the structure can release drug molecules either in response to a miRNA signal or the Dicer cleavage. Here we characterise the structure of the RNA octahedron using PAGE and biophysical techniques, and the function by specific cleavage of the structure by the Dicer enzyme and gene knockdown using a dual Luciferase assay. We used a DNA/RNA hybrid to characterize opening of the structure by FRET measurements. Our project demonstrates that RNA nano-structures can be designed as multipurpose devices for both stability, drug release and using the scaffold as the active therapeutic agent.


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She was ready for a shower. The day long. The time stressful. The mind muted.
What was that that Malcolm and Donaldbain said upon their father's murder in Macbeth
Our tears are not yet brew'd/ Nor our strong sorrow/Upon the foot of motion.
Keep busy, and the emotion won't get to you.
Shiva houses are busy places, especially when you're not the mourner, but just the child of one. Chairs need to be rearranged, phones answered, messages taken and forwarded. Food needs to be organized, prepared, cleared. There is no time to mourn for the mourner's child, there is too much to be done.
But now she was home. And she was tired. And with the slowing motions of the day, the sorrow crept up and tapped on her shoulder. One minute she told it. I'll recognize and embrace you in a moment; I'm going to shower and there I will cave. I will let you envelop me, crush me, overwhelm me. But I will be alone, and the water will soothe and mingle with my tears, so it will be ok.
She was ready for a shower and stepped into the tub. She was eager to cry. Ready for the catharsis. But the water was cold. She turned the knob; it would turn no more. The water was warm, but too cold. She was back in camp where showers were often cold and pressure low, and movement had to be fast. But she couldn't move. She was frozen. The tears stopped, and mind blocked. Survival mode was engaged, to just get clean and out of the shower fast.
But she wanted to cry. She needed to cry. Cry away from her kids and her husband looking on sympathetically, but powerless. Urgently she turning the knob though she knew it was futile. The water was cold. And then she cried. Not for her loss, not for her grandfather, not for the clenched fist around her heart. She cried that she couldn't cry.
Bent over, dank clumps of hair matted her shoulders and she held herself and shivered. Tears fell, and her body shook. And she was cold. The water was cold. So cold. And she cried for her sorrow's loss.


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A Winnipeg man who claims he was mentally ill at the time he brutally killed his wife of 36 years will not testify at his trial.
Miloslav Kapsik, 63, has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder for the March 2010 slaying of his wife, Ludmila, 59. Kapsik wants to be found not criminally responsible. If successful, he would not go to prison, but would instead be placed under the care of medical officials.
Defence lawyer Greg Brodsky began calling evidence last week then closed his case Monday afternoon without putting Kapsik on the stand. Jurors were previously told the accused has no obligation to give evidence and nothing should be made of whether he testifies.
The trial has now been adjourned until March 11 for closing arguments. Jury deliberations are then expected to begin immediately.
A medical expert previously told jurors Kapsik suffered from "major depression and psychotic features" at the time of the attack. Dr. Giovana Levin, a forensic psychiatrist at Health Sciences Centre, spent months working closely with Kapsik following his arrest. She said he was wrestling with sleep deprivation, suicidal thoughts and was hearing voices. Kapsik said he began hearing "mumbling" in his head in early 2009 and considered ending his own life. He bought a rope and planned to hang himself, but changed his mind, jurors were told.
Medical records showed Kapsik was first diagnosed with severe depression in 2003. He gave up his job as a bus driver because he was unable to cope, said Levin.
The Crown is challenging Kapsik's claim of mental illness, saying he knew what he was doing, even if there is no apparent motive for smashing Ludmila at least 57 times with a hammer.
Prosecutor Jennifer Mann has urged jurors to pay attention to the way Kapsik acted after his arrest, describing him as "calm, responsive to questions and coherent" in his dealings with police.
A videotaped police interview was shown to jurors last week, in which Kapsik repeatedly declined to speak about what happened. Two homicide investigators spent hours grilling him, questioning whether Ludmila had said or done something to provoke him.
They also wondered how Kapsik could be so calm considering the brutality of the killing and the fact he admitted to spending more than an hour on the couch as his wife lay dying before he called 911.
Ludmila was attacked inside their Jefferson Avenue apartment. Kapsik said the couple was watching TV when he got up, grabbed a hammer and began hitting his wife from behind. The Kapsiks moved to Canada from the Czech Republic and had no children.


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If you're not familiar with Teacup Software, they put out some great plug-ins for InDesign and they also do custom plug-in development. Among their various plug-ins is a sweet little gem called TypeFitter which makes it easy to tweak word spacing, letter spacing, and glyph spacing to stretch or shrink a story to fit. I'm sure there are purists who will say we shouldn't be doing this, but why not accept the reality AND make it easier?
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CBD was pleased to see that the crowdfunded documentary being planned on Australia's richest woman Gina Rinehart - called I Dream of Gina (IDOG) - has reached its funding target of $25,000.
''Obviously, $25,000 won't fund the whole film, BUT it will help get the show on the road!!'' said its appeal on crowd-funding platform Pozible.
Two big spenders opted for the $2000 donation package, which means they get to become executive producers of the project. It is understood Mrs Rinehart is not one of these two donors, which is a pity.
''Your name will be featured in the film's opening title sequence! You'll be able to slap it on your IMDB page! AND ABOVE ALL you'll sleep soundly knowing that you helped in getting this film made,'' says a post from the IDOG team.
On target
Peter Holmes a Court (right) is also doing well with his charity efforts, which dovetailed with his weekend wedding in Botswana to photo-journalist Alissa Everett.
His Fundly-based raiser was threatening to crack the $18,000 barrier on the eve of the nuptials with a final target of $24,000 by the end of the month.
Peter's mummy, former RBA director Janet Holmes a Court, chipped in with $1000, but CBD couldn't spot anything from his South Sydney Rabbitohs co-owner, Russell Crowe. James Packer also resisted the urge to donate despite rumours he's interested in Holmes a Court's stake in the NRL club.
Maybe the Rabbitoh's club member 27761 is keeping hold of his ticket for now.
Queensland-based Financial Technology Securities (FTS) is temporarily sans-licence after the corporate pup pinged the firm for recommending inappropriate ''double gearing'' strategies to clients as recently as 2012.
Double gearing refers to the practice of getting a client to borrow against their home, and then using the money as a margin loan to gamble on the sharemarket.
For those with a memory longer than a goldfish, this is what brought thousands of predominantly Queensland-based clients undone at Storm Financial during the financial crisis that was not computed into Storm's risk model.
Pity that FTS didn't have any sophisticated investors, and business partners, to keep it on the right track. Oh wait, which big four banks are associated with this esteemed outfit?
According to the FTS website NAB owned 25 per cent of FTS until March this year, via its wealth division MLC.
And the Commonwealth Bank's Colonial Geared Investments is listed as one of its ''banking platforms''.
CBA was obviously busy with other things at the time.
Taking a break
CBA's wealth management fiasco has offered a wonderful insight into how far the government's implicit guarantee of our big four banks stretches.
With a bombshell of a Senate report about to land, CBA chief Ian Narev goes on holiday to Indonesia and stays there while the government squishes calls for a royal commission.
He flies back to announce a half-baked review by the bank of its own misdemeanours.
At least he bothered to fly back. CBA chairman David Turner has also been missing in action during the latest flare-up and is holidaying somewhere in the UK we are told.
Missed the mark
Speaking of banks. One of the hardest jobs of journalism is deciding which big stories deserve the scant resources available to modern media operators.
CBD was pleased to see ANZ Group's news operation, BlueNotes, did not shirk the big story of last week.
It dutifully covered hard-hitting issues like electronic payments in Singapore, as well as China and Vietnam's maritime tensions, and avoided parochial issues such as Commonwealth Bank's wealth management challenge.
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Your final term paper is due the next morning, but you cannot type another word unless you get a slice of hot, gooey tomato and spinach pizza. You run over to the student union, even though it will put you behind schedule.
You have gotten to the movie theater late and just found a place to sit when suddenly you have to have hot, buttered popcorn, even though you know that if you get it, you will miss the first 10 minutes of the feature.
It is time for your menstrual cycle to begin and nothing will satisfy your midnight hunger, except chocolate ice cream. So you head out to the local convenience store on a snowy night.
Some food cravings are so strong that you will go out of your way to satisfy them. However, studies have not clearly identified what cravings are and how they influence what we eat.
Theories abound as to what causes food cravings, but no one theory has been proven scientifically sound. Some common reasons people believe they have cravings include:
Craving and indulging in a specific food from time to time will likely not result in weight gain; however, cravings that are frequent may. Weight gain occurs from sustained increases in food intake over time.
It is best to give in to cravings once in a while. Denying yourself the foods you enjoy will create unnecessary stress, which sometimes results in bingeing on the foods that you have been denying yourself.
If you feel as though your cravings are getting out of hand, try these tips:
Lastly, if you feel your cravings have gotten out of hand, consider keeping a food diary. Share this information with your doctor to discuss changes that you may want to make to your diet to improve your overall health.
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Controlling cravings. Nutritionist Resource website. Available at: http://www.nutritionist-resource.org.uk/articles/controlling-cravings.html. Accessed December 24, 2013.
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XENIA, Ohio (AP) -- Police say a 21-year-old man showed his ID to be able to buy a cigar, then pulled a handgun and robbed a convenience store.
Hanson Price was being held Tuesday in Greene County Jail under $100,000 bond on a charge of aggravated robbery. No attorney was listed for him.
Police say he first paid for a 59-cent cigar, showing his Ohio driver's license at the clerk's request. Then he allegedly robbed the store of $72 from the cash register in the recent incident.
Police told the Dayton Daily News (http://bit.ly/IcUjra ) Price was arrested with the gun and money on a nearby street. They also have taken the store's surveillance video.
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"Here's to living forever. That's not just a salutation in our family"
~ Sonya Kurzweil
"This is of mythical proportions. We have to deal with it, even if it turns out not to be true."
~ Kevin Kelly
Regular readers of this blog will know we have an abiding fascination with what technology may bring in the far flung future (see our The Coming Age of Augmentation post and, most recently, Greg Anderson on Asimov's First Law).
So it'll be no surprise to hear we got *extremely* excited when an invite arrived, courtesy of Google, to attend a screening of Barry Ptolemy's Transcendent Man at the Science Museum in London, followed by a Q&A with the director and the film's subject, the futurist, author and engineer Ray Kurzweil. (more…)


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December 2016 S.F. Armory/Kink.com Studios Tour
Kink.com Tours
Saturday, December 3, 2016 from 6:00 PM to 7:30 PM (PST)
Event Details
The landmark San Francisco Armory, located in the heart of the Mission district, holds daily tours lead by employees of Kink.com, the adult entertainment production company that acquired the building in 2006.
The 90-minute tour will allow you to explore the facilities originally built to service the National Guard, as well as the elaborate and cinematic sets that have since been constructed for use as BDSM erotica production studios.
Experience the dark dungeons, the decadent Upper Floor, and everything in between. The extraordinary history of the SF Armory and the talented handiwork of the Art Department combine to create an unforgettable experience. From extensive prop collections to the creek that runs through the basement, there is no other place quite like it!
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Dog-friendly Exhall, 2 Dogs & 3 People
These holiday cottages are situated in the middle of the pretty village of Exhall. Parts of the farmhouse date back to Tudor times and for centuries it's been the home of the local clergyman who both cultivated the land and preached in the tiny church next door. William Shakespeare is alleged to have referred in…
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Not sure what it is, but I don't think it's minor, not with Glen Sather announcing a conference call at 5:15.
Back as soon as we know something.
UPDATE: The trade is with Don Maloney and Phoenix.
UPDATE: It's Rozsival for Wolski!
Here's the official announcement:
New York sends defenseman Michal Rozsival to Phoenix
New York, January 10, 2011 – New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that the club has acquired forward Wojtek Wolski (pronounced VOY-teck VOHL-skee) from the Phoenix Coyotes in exchange for defenseman Michal Rozsival.
Wolski, 24, was originally selected as Colorado's first round pick, 21st overall, of the 2004 NHL Entry Draft. He has registered six goals and 10 assists for 16 points, along with 10 penalty minutes in 36 games with Phoenix this season. Wolski registered 13 points (four goals, nine assists) in his first 19 games to begin the season from October 9 at Boston to November 23 vs. Edmonton. He has registered three multi-point performances this season, including a two-assist effort vs. Carolina on October 23. Wolski has recorded seven of his 16 points against Eastern Conference opponents (three goals, four assists in 11 games).
Last season, the Zabrze, Poland native established career-highs in goals (23), assists (42), points (65), games played (80), and plus/minus rating (plus -21) while splitting the season between Colorado and Phoenix. He registered 18 points (six goals, 12 assists) in 18 games with the Coyotes, and finished the regular season on a five-game assist streak. Wolski led the Coyotes in points and assists, while his plus-21 rating ranked first on the team and tied for 23rd in the NHL. He tallied his 200th career point with a two-point effort (one goal, one assist) vs. Chicago on March 20, and recorded his 100th career assist at Vancouver on November 20. The six-year NHL veteran skated in his 300th career game vs. Phoenix on February 12 as a member of the Avalanche. Wolski also led the Coyotes in goals (four) and tied for second in scoring with five points while skating in seven playoff contests.
The 6-3, 215-pounder has skated in 356 career regular season contests with Colorado and Phoenix, registering 85 goals and 142 assists for 227 points, along with 97 penalty minutes. He tied the NHL record for most shootout goals in a single season during the 2008-09 season, originally set by Jussi Jokinen in 2005-06, converting 10 of 12 shootout attempts (83.3%) with Colorado. In 2006-07, Wolski registered 50 points (22 goals, 28 assists) in 76 games to rank fourth in the NHL among rookies in points, and fifth in goals, assists, power play goals (seven), power play assists (10), and power play points (17). He tallied his first career point with a goal, and added two assists vs. Calgary on October 10, 2005, just three games after making his NHL debut at Edmonton on October 5, 2005. In addition, Wolski has registered seven goals and seven assists for 14 points in 22 career NHL playoff contests with Colorado and Phoenix.
Rozsival, 32, has registered three goals and 12 assists for 15 points, along with 22 penalty minutes in 32 games this season. In 10 NHL seasons, Rozsival has registered 60 goals and 181 assists for 241 points, along with 535 penalty minutes in 669 career regular season games with the Rangers and Penguins. The Vlasim, Czech Republic native signed as a free agent with the Rangers on September 6, 2005. He was originally Pittsburgh's fourth round choice, 105th overall, in the 1996 NHL Entry Draft.


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This morning we reported that the £1bn Sino-UK trade package was a bit short of detail other than a £1m deal to sell breeding pigs to the Chinese. Downing St has since updated its announcement to include a few other deals beyond the porcine arrangement.
They include an agreement to let Unilever expand its manufacturing in China, as well as clearance for a Diageo takeover of a Chinese company.
Here is their announcement:
* An agreement between BG Group and Bank of China to access a new credit facility of up to $1.5 billion that will allow the group to expand their business in China. Read more


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Deep Water Container Terminal (DCT) Gdansk to Implement Navis SPARCS N4
GDANSK, Poland & OAKLAND, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Navis, a part of Cargotec Corporation, the global technology standard for managing the movement of cargo through terminals and DCT Gdansk, SA, today announced that Deep Water Container Terminal (DCT) Gdansk in Poland is implementing Navis SPARCS N4. The terminal operating system (TOS), scheduled to go live in the fourth quarter of 2011, will allow DCT Gdansk to support rapid terminal development plans, including increasing container volumes to one million twenty foot equivalent units (TEUs) in 2012, and meeting international standards for terminal operations.
"The easy configuration and scalability of SPARCS N4 supports our efforts to increase efficiencies, optimize processes and manage costs as we bring Polish terminal operations to the best worldwide standards."
As the newest and fastest growing terminal in Poland and the Baltic Sea, DCT Gdansk will utilize the new TOS to manage rapid growth after revolutionizing the Baltic shipping market with the first regular deep-sea calls into the Baltic Sea in early 2010, recently upgraded to E-class vessels. Moving more than 450,000 TEUs in 2010, the terminal plans to increase this to 1.4 million TEUs by 2015 and has potential for up to four million TEUs with future planned development phases. SPARCS N4 will allow DCT Gdansk to support key planning and equipment control operations with increased throughput and multiple vessel berthing as its business environment and requirements evolve.
"We chose Navis because of its proven track record providing reliable and innovative solutions to world class terminals, and our continued plans for rapid expansion and resulting evolution of the Baltic shipping market require that expertise," said Boris Wenzel, CEO at DCT Gdansk. "The easy configuration and scalability of SPARCS N4 supports our efforts to increase efficiencies, optimize processes and manage costs as we bring Polish terminal operations to the best worldwide standards."
Navis SPARCS N4 is the next generation terminal operating system, offering the lowest possible total cost of ownership in a maintainable and adaptable solution. SPARCS N4 provides a platform for DCT Gdansk to manage their expected development.
"We are pleased to provide a solution that is able to grow with DCT Gdansk's operations," said Bill Walsh, president and CEO of Navis, LLC. "DCT Gdansk is an obvious leader in the region providing their customers with highly efficient operations. Navis SPARCS N4 will play an integral part of DCT Gdansk operations as they grow. We have created an advanced, innovative and flexible technology that allows our customers to optimize operations as their business needs change."
About Navis, LLC
Navis, a part of Cargotec Corporation, is the global technology standard for managing the movement of cargo through terminals, standing the test of time. Navis combines industry best practices with innovative technology and world-class services to enable our customers to maximize performance and reduce risk. Whether tracking cargo through a port, automating equipment operations, or managing multiple terminals through an integrated, centralized solution, Navis provides a holistic approach to operational optimization, providing customers with improved visibility, velocity and measurable business results. www.navis.com
About Cargotec Corporation
Cargotec improves the efficiency of cargo flows on land and at sea – wherever cargo is on the move. Cargotec's daughter brands, Hiab, Kalmar and MacGregor are recognized leaders in cargo and load handling solutions around the world. Cargotec's global network is positioned close to customers and offers extensive services that ensure the continuous, reliable and sustainable performance of equipment. Cargotec's sales totaled EUR 2.6 billion in 2010 and it employs approximately 10,000 people. Cargotec's class B shares are quoted on NASDAQ OMX Helsinki under symbol CGCBV. www.cargotec.com
About DCT Gdansk
DCT Gdansk is a Polish registered company majority owned by GIF II (Global Infrastructure Fund II), a specialized fund managed by a member of the Macquarie Group of Companies, headquartered in Australia. Its terminal offers year-round ice-free access with a 17.0m deep approach channel and up to 16.5m depth along the berth. DCT Gdansk is an ideal gateway to Poland as well as the transshipment hub for St. Petersburg and the rest of the Baltic region. The rail terminal, 2 x 1000m long and operated by DCT Gdansk, is adjacent to the marine facility. DCT Gdansk offers the only direct container shipping connection from the Far East to Poland and the Baltic Sea. DCT is adjacent to the 100 ha Pomeranian Logistics Center developed by Goodman which is to open in 2012 and will offer port centric logistics solutions to the Polish market.


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At least eight members of the Syrian security forces were killed in a car bomb attack near a police station in the Jubar district of Damascus, AFP reported.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an opposition-aligned watchdog, said the explosion appeared to have been carried out by the al-Nusra Front, although this wasn't confirmed immediately.
"At least eight regime forces were killed, and a number of civilians injured, after a large explosion caused by a car bomb hit the Jubar neighborhood near a police station," Observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman told AFP.
Fighting is ongoing between rebels and forces loyal to Bashar al-Assad in the Jubar district of the Syrian capital, which has been targeted in air strikes and mortar attacks in recent months.
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I've always been a huge reader.
I don't remember when I first learned how to read, but since I did, I've rarely been without a book somewhere near by.
As a girl, the arrival of the monthly Scholastic Book brochure was a highlight of the month. I remember eagerly reading about all the books available, choosing the ones I wanted and then trying to figure out how many of the books I could get for the dollar or two my parents would let me have.
I didn't read many of the traditional children's classics, although I do remember reading "Five Little Peppers," "The Black Stallion" and "Little Women."
I was a huge fan of horse and dog books, but the books I read the most were probably the girls series books.
Yes, in the days before the Babysitter Club books and the Sweet Valley twins books, there were other girls series books.
I still have all of my Donna Parker books and my Trixie Belden books. I will even seriously date myself by admitting I have my Annette books (of Annette Funicello fame).
Yes, I still have so many of my books, sitting on the lower shelves of my bookcases, but perhaps the books I cherished most of all are no longer mine.
I was once the proud owner of all of the Nancy Drew books. Good old Nancy, girl detective, beloved daughter of Carson, chum of George and Bess, and platonic squeeze of Ned Nickerson.
I loved those books. I'm not sure how many I had, but it was probably about 50 or so, beginning with "The Secret of the Old Clock" and up through every book that was available until about 1970.
Most of us of a certain age remember fondly the Sears Wish Book, but not many people might remember that Sears also sold books. There was a discount if you bought multiple quantities, and I seem to remember the price for six or more books one year was a whopping 77 cents each.
The story of what happened to those books still makes me sad. I was a teenager when my cousin married a woman who had a young daughter. My cousin asked if he could buy my Nancy Drew books for his new stepdaughter, and in a moment of near-sighted greed, I agreed.
My cousin later got a divorce, and the books left the family for good.
So now I have a Don Quixote-type quest to find my books. Every time I go to a used bookstore, especially in the Quad Cities area where I grew up, I eagerly open the cover of any Nancy Drew book I find from that era.
You see, my books had one special feature. My dad had beautiful handwriting, so in the cover of every book I had as a child is written "Barbara Bunge."
I know the odds of ever finding even one of the books are very small, but I continue to search. The chance of finding a piece of my father's handwriting and the memories of the girl I once was is too valuable to pass by.
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2/16 Bosse Recital
|Temple Canyon Suite
|Jim Bosse
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|1.Domum Relinquenti
|2. Gravia Corde
|3. Temple Canyon
|4. Rock at Beaver Creek
|5. Mining Camp at Badger Creek
|Zoom Tube
|Ian Clarke
|Ctyri Kusy
|Stepan Rak
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|1. Andante comodo
|2. Allegro risoluto
|3. Adagio cantabile
|4. Con moto
|Canción Fatua
|José Paredes
|(b. 1958)
|Nocturne, Op 38
|Francesco Molino
|1. Andante cantabile
|2. Rondo allegro
|Nocturne, Op 37
|1. Largo non troppo
|2. Rondo pastorale allegretto
|Dances in the Madhouse
|David Leisner
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|1. Tango Solitaire
|2. Waltz for the Old Folks
|3. Ballad for the Lonely
|4. Samba
|Lullaby for Mirabai
|Jim Bosse
|Air for Chiara
|Jacques Ibert
Jim Bosse was born in New York in 1949 and began his music career performing in rock bands. A few of the musicians Jim performed with achieved success in popular music, most notably Billy Joel, who Jim performed with from 1962-1967. Jim's interest gradually shifted to classical music and he has studied with Colorado's finest guitarists including Charles Wolzein, David Honig, Ricardo Iznaolo, Masa Ito, and Alex Komodore. He has participated in over thirty master classes with many of the world's greatest guitarists. In 1986 Jim founded the Southern Colorado Guitar Society and served as its first president. He taught guitar at Adams State College in Alamosa from 1995-1997 and at the University of southern Colorado in Pueblo from 1997-2000. Jim has performed over two hundred concerts in North and South America and he composes classical guitar music and arranges popular music for classical guitar. He has published two books and recorded six CDs.
Becky Weidman-Winter teaches flute and music theory at Western State College of Colorado and is a DMA candidate at the University of North Texas. Becky has won the Flute Society of Kentucky (2008) and Mid-South (2007) Young Artist Competitions, received honorable mention in the Myrna Brown Young Artist Competition (2008) and in 2001 participated in the Jean-Pierre Rampal Competition in Paris, France. Becky has been a member of the Garland, Las Colinas, and Arlington Symphonies and the band Tin Roof Tango in Dallas, Texas. From 2001-2004 she was on the faculty at the Rocky Mountain Center for Musical Arts in Lafayette, CO, teaching flute, piano, and Introduction to Instruments and performed frequently with the Boulder Philharmonic Orchestra. She is a founding member of the Mountain Music Ensemble (flute/oboe/guitar) and Ensemble Vivente (flute and strings) and performs with the Crested Butte Music Festival and Crested Butte Mountain Theatre. She holds degrees from the University of Colorado at Boulder (MM) and Oberlin Conservatory (BM). Previous study has been with Terri Sundberg, Alexa Still, Michel Debost, and John Oberbrunner.
Kenneth W. Todd is the director of the applied string studio and orchestras at Western State also teaches string education, music appreciation, and theory courses. A graduate of the University of Nebraska-Omaha and the University of Texas at Austin, he holds the degrees of Bachelor of Music and Master of Music respectively. Prior to his service at Western, he directed high school orchestras for nine years in McAllen and College Station, Texas. His groups at Western have successfully presented at the Colorado Music Educators Association on three different occasions. Mr. Todd is also the director of the Valley Youth Orchestra, a position he has held since 2005. The VYO consists of three orchestras—the Concertino, Philharmonic, and Symphonic Orchestras. These orchestras provide a positive orchestral experience for young musicians ranging from Telluride to Grand Junction along the Western Slope of Colorado. Every two years, the VYO combines with the Valley Symphony Orchestra for a series of spring concerts. Mr. Todd performs with his wife, Alicia Belgiovane, in recitals at Western. He performs on a violin of Carlo Antonio Testore made in Milan, Italy in 1742.


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Side-event: Introductory remarks by Ambassador Wittig on Global Compact
(Introductory remarks by Ambassador Wittig during a Global Compact Board Meeting in his function as Chair of Global Compact Donor Group)
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Global Compact is a success story – I am happy to say that the worldwide growth of the initiative is reflected in a thriving German Local Network with currently almost 200 corporate participants - and the number is steadily rising. Germany as Chair of the Donor Group and Switzerland as Chair of the Group of Friends of the Global Compact are pleased to host this luncheon. The Rio+20 Conference earlier this year gave impressive evidence of the growing importance of the collaboration of the UN and its member states on the one hand and the private sector- with significant support of the Brazilian government- on the other. Therefore we are pleased that Ambassador Dunlop joined as host of this luncheon today. Rio+20 has indeed initiated the processes to develop a comprehensive UN development agenda post-2015. Business has a critical role to play in this process, as recognised in the Outcome Document of the conference. In this respect, we very much welcome and also support the plans of the Global Compact to address this topic with the private sector at the "UN Global Compact Leaders Summit" to be held during the 68th UN General Assembly in September 2013
We are looking forward to hear the conclusions of the Board Meeting. Let me say from the Donor's perspective that we are pleased to see that Global Compact under the able direction of Georg Kell is growing. It must grow to scale if it is to effectively induce and support collective action in support of the global sustainability agenda – at the same time, however, in order to keep its momentum, a clear focus on the Global Compact's mandate must be preserved, i.e. "to advance United Nations values and responsible business practices within the United Nations system and among the global business community", and I quote from last GA resolution on partnerships.
If the Global Compact is to grow, we need all available support, political as well as financial. Government donors agreed at their last meeting, that greater private sector contributions will be needed in order to fund the growth envisaged.
In this context, I would like to strongly support the further strengthening of the Global Compact local networks and a closer involvement of the local networks in the governance structure of the Global Compact. It is at the local level that the transformative partnerships promoted by the Global Compact have to stand the test!
Germany supported not only the Global Compact from the start, but also the wider partnership agenda of the UN. Your <the SG's> announcement earlier this year to strengthen and improve the UN's capacity and performance in entering partnerships, therefore is most timely and welcome as an important complement to the successful work of the Global Compact. We are delighted to have you <the SG> with us today. You have made the promotion of partnerships one of your flagships and given it a new strategic dimension. With a view to the post 2015-agenda it is clear that we need multi-stakeholder initiatives to support our common endavour. Germany has and will continue to support your initiatives. And let me assure you that the donor governments feel that the Global Compact Office has valuable experience and knowledge relevant to the development of the partnership agenda and that the donors will be happy to join the discussion on the development of this agenda.
Let me conclude by thanking you, the Board members, for your continued support which gives the strategic development of the initiative direction and substance. Special thanks to Secretary General Ban Ki-moon for his guidance and inspiration as Chair of the Board! And last but not least to the Vice-Chair, Sir Mark Moody-Stuart, who is at the heart of all of these efforts. Thank you for your attention.


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Champion falls short in bid to make state
Updated 11:06 pm, Saturday, June 2, 2012
Boerne Champion's improbable run to the Region IV-4A final began with a disastrous start to the season, with losses in five of its first seven games.
The Chargers clawed back to .500 by district play and spent more than a month in the playoffs, pulling off at least one major upset.
Champion's season ended one round short of the state tournament on Saturday with a 3-2 loss against Lake Travis in eight innings. But senior Luke Strieber found some consolation in how far the team had gone.
"I don't think many more people than the ones in our dugout thought we'd be in the regional final," he said. "It was a special season."
Lake Travis swept the best-of-3 Class 4A regional final series on Saturday after a 9-1 victory in Game 1 on Friday.
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The Cavaliers scored the series-winning run in extra innings on a Ryan Lee bloop single to score Baker Mayfield.
Lee drove home all three Lake Travis runs Saturday, adding a bases-loaded two-run single in the third inning.
Strieber (7-3) threw a complete game for Champion, allowing eight hits with just one walk.
"I was going the distance," said Strieber, who threw more than 120 pitches. "If it went 12 innings, I still would have been out there."
But Champion's offense struggled to get Strieber help and left nine runners on base, including at least one in each of the first seven innings. Josh Holcomb led off the fifth with a single, but Champion was unable to get him home.
"We just couldn't get the key hits at key times," Champion coach Chuck Foster said.
There was a breakthrough in the sixth with an unlikely hero. Jace Bullinger, who had 14 at-bats all season, made his first start of the playoffs on Saturday and hit an RBI single to score Will Bandujo. Holcomb added an infield hit to score Nate Guerra and tie the game at 2-2.
But Lake Travis was able to get the last key hit in extra innings. Daniel Castano (6-3), Lake Travis' expected Game 3 starter if Champion won Game 2, entered in relief in the sixth and retired the last six batters he faced for the victory.
Champion (27-12) began the season with a 2-5 record and was 8-8 after its first district game, a loss to Brennan.
The Chargers went on a 12-game winning streak to claim District 28-4A, then stormed to the regional final with a run that included a 4-3 victory last week against Corpus Christi Calallen — ranked No. 1 in the nation at the time by ESPN — in a one-game playoff.
Lake Travis (33-10) is headed to its first baseball state tournament. The Chargers' elimination continues a drought for San Antonio baseball, as no area team has gone to state since Medina Valley in Class 3A in 2008.
"Once we got a run, I thought we were making the comeback," Holcomb said. "But it just wasn't meant to be for us."
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AMD Phenom Preview: Barcelona Desktop Benchmarksby Anand Lal Shimpi on 9/10/2007 12:03 AM EST
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kevinkga - Friday, November 23, 2007 - linkInteresting review but it looks like you've given the system to gamers to test. These systems seem to be built for server-class systems, where performance for stuff like encoding, gaming etc is not relevant. Instead, why not:
1. Have a gentoo install done and bechmark against that? CFLAGS tweaking and stuff would truely reveal where this processor thrives or fails.
2. Why not use a process intensive application or thread intensive application such as apache under loads of stress or a highly threaded application server such as websphere? In these cases latency on communication between processes or threads running on different cores is much more important than GHz performance. AMD uses hypertransport between its processor, one of the things that its got an edge comapared to intel. IPC or interthread communication for server-class benchmarks make much more sense that normal multimedia benchmarks that are used for desktops.... c'mon guys. Reply
spinportal - Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - linkSo what is the going talk on Phenom vs. Peryn?
Phenom launch is when? Late 2007? bad news
Peryn launch is Nov 12th. Wolfdale is dual/Yorkfield is quad (without interconnects).
Phenom is called PhenomX4 for quad-core? and PhenomX2 for dual-core?
Will Phenom support multi-cpu motherboards or is that just Opt/Barcelona?
Will Peryn support multi-cpu mobos or is that just Xeon/Harpertown?
What we need is a metric for the 2.33 or 2.5 GHz releases for Phenom & Peryn .
What is the comparison of a Athlon X2 6000+ to a Phenom X2 2 GHz in performance and price?
Wolfdale vs. Conroe (175$US) @ 2.33 GHz ~ +5%
PhenomX2 vs. K8 X2 3800+ (65$US) @ 2.0 GHz ~ +15%
Conroe @ 2.66 Ghz (320$US) vs. K8 X2 6000+ (165$US) @ 3.0 Ghz ~ +18%
(+24% vs. X2 4400+)
Now for the pulling numbers out of a hat:
Wolfdale @ 2.33 GHz vs. PhenomX2 @ 2.33 GHz ~ +14%
Street Worth: 200$US vs. 100$US
But you know AMD will need to price higher to protect its AM2 line, and Intel will put its price premium in as to not deflate Conroe.
Est Retail: 240$US vs. 180$US Reply
cocoviper - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - linkIn light of Barcelona's "close but no cigar" performance I really think AMD should use a strategy from their own playbook from Spring/Summer of 99. K7 was looking to be a pretty good performer, but it wasn't quite there yet so AMD respun the K6-2 and K6-III's as the K6-2+ and K6-III+ (0.18 micron versions). These things were drop in replacements that were ultra cheap (both to produce and to buy), ran cool, overclocked really well and brought needed cash into AMD until they were able to stabilize the K7 and move to the Thunderbird.
I say continue pushing hard to get Barcelona north of 3GHz, but in the mean time, have some people respin a either a cut down K8 derivitive to 65nm or a standard K8 to 45nm (only if 45nm will be up and running before Feb to March) and push it out as quick as possible. Then they can make some cash in the mainstream market from alot of inexpensive CPUs. Reply
coolme - Friday, September 14, 2007 - linkGood idea, AMD can actually be the first cpu manufacturer to sell new x86 processors in the < $100 range. With new shrinked K8s and cheap cheap single-core Barcelona. (less cache, no power improvements, and possibly off-die memory controller to aviod low yields, but cheap cheap cheap) Reply
Visual - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - linkeven a simple return of the 939 x2s would give them quite a lot of sales, i think.
i personally would not hesitate to buy even a 6200+ x2 if they made it available and as cheap as the am2 versions now.
also that will in no way replace my future purchase of a quadcore k10 (or two, in a 4x4 board) so they shouldn't worry about their products competing among themselves.
i know plenty other people who refused to buy new mobos just for the sake of ddr2, and are still sticking with single-core 939s. give them the $40 3600+ x2s and 99% of them will upgrade. some will likely even go for the higher SKUs, like me.
i know there still are occasional 939 x2s that you can buy here and there, as well as the 939 dualcore opterons. but believe me - supply is really low, making prices unreasonable compared to am2 chips, and also while they may be possible to find in the usa, uk or central europe, there are none at all available in my own country in eastern europe. i really want to find one, been looking for a long time now, and the only option i got is to import, further driving the price up - its just not worth it compared to am2 as it is. Reply
13Gigatons - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - linkThat is very disappointing.... Reply
duploxxx - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - linkSry to say anand, but i would advise to remove the review. If people would have a decent view on how this benchmark was done they would understand that this will be nowhere near the performance of the real phenom but it is a good indication. (and that was the whole intention why you made this review) However most only look at the benchmarks and think it will never be any faster than this.
To my opinion you are killing a product before it is even launched and a bad name for you're site. Reply
BaronMatrix - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkMaybe someone should try putting these in a QFX mobo (well THE QFX mobo) and see what happens. They should OC pretty good and that would also raise the RAM clock and take away the ECC penalty. Reply
eRacer - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkWere any tests done to compare a single dual-core K8 Opteron versus a single quad-core K10? In previous reviews single- and dual-threaded benchmark performance was actually hurt by running dual A64 FX CPUs instead of a single A64 CPU at the same frequency.
For example, in this review K10 was 16.2% faster than two dual-core Opterons at the same frequency in Oblivion. However, a previous Anandtech review showed that a single 3GHz A64 X2 6000+ was 17.1% faster than two 3GHz A64 FX-74 CPUs in a QuadFX system.
So is it possible the 2x K8 vs. 1x K10 comparison is telling us as much about the shortcomings of using dual-socket AMD systems in desktop benchmarks as it is about the strength of K10 vs. K8? Reply
MadBoris - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - link
Were any tests done to compare a single dual-core K8 Opteron versus a single quad-core K10? In previous reviews single- and dual-threaded benchmark performance was actually hurt by running dual A64 FX CPUs instead of a single A64 CPU at the same frequency.
See my post above showing some K10 to K8 comparison with single and dual thread from techreport, the K10 advantage seems pretty insignificant on single threaded or more serial based applications.
This will not look so good for the consumer desktop sector with so many applications/games that are still serial in their nature(even if they are multi-threaded). Reply
lopri - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkWas thinking the exact same thing. Because the ~20% advantage in games just didn't make sense considering that the gaming benchmark is probably the most single-threaded in nature. If taken as its face value, the performance gain would be huge (which only would grow as the number of core increases). Reply
PlasmaBomb - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkCPU-z says the voltage required to achieve 2.5GHz on a Barcelona was 1.52V, what was it set to in the BIOS? Reply
Spuke - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link...it looks like AMD will be a great alternative to Intel. The present K8 is already competitive performance-wise with Conroe and the Barcelona core looks to be MUCH quicker than K8. If Penryn is only 5% faster than Conroe, then I foresee Phenom being equal to Penryn. Well, that is unless you believe single digit gains to be LARGE advantages. Reply
Hulk - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link"The present K8 is already competitive performance-wise with Conroe..."
Huh? Every review I've ever read comparing K8 with Conroe shows Conroe being significantly faster in 9 out of 10 tests at the same clockspeed.
Sunbird - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkAnd the reviews with P4s and A64 were showing the A64 winning 9 out of 10 at same clockspeeds, the megahertz myth is busted. The only thing that really matters is price to performance and to some overclocking and maybe platform cost and heat... Reply
strikeback03 - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkExcept the post being replied to did not mention price, only performance. In the desktop market Intel currently beats AMD clock for clock and their top parts are clearly faster than AMD top parts. Depending on how much you get your processor for, AMD can be competitive on price per dollar, but on pure performance not so much right now. Reply
Spuke - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkI said competitive with Intel not "hair on fire" faster than Intel. Two different things. At the framerates these CPU's are getting nowadays, the performance differences are irrelevant at least in gaming and near irrelevant in other benchmarks. Unless you're making money of these systems where every second counts, the differences are truly insignificant. And I won't get into the J6P market. Reply
strikeback03 - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - linkWell, I don't game, so framerates in that sense are rather meaningless to me. On the other hand if I have a couple hundred photos to convert from RAW to TIFF, then open in CS2 and apply some other corrections, the time savings of running on a 3GHz quad-core C2D over a 3GHz AMD solution (1 or two processor) can be significant. I'd imagine those who do video rendering feel the same way. Reply
Regs - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkIt's really too early to tell. It's what we all expected. They should of been released at 2.6 and scaled up to 3.0+ Ghz. Not 1.8 to 2.5 Ghz. Reply
hirschma - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkI'd love to know what happens when a Barcelona is inserted into an AMD 4x4 platform. Does it work? Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkThat's the first thing I tried, it didn't work :)
Take care,
Anand Reply
hirschma - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link
That's the first thing I tried, it didn't work :)
That's sad, truly. Any inside scoop as to whether a Socket F FX will be seeing the light of day anytime soon?
Thanks for the reply, anand. Reply
Visual - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkhey, that's bad news, but good that you let us know
and i'm sure if you spam asus a bit they'll give you a bios fix before they even make it official :P Reply
Visual - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkSame thing i posted two posts up :p
The only 4x4 (official name is quadFX btw) board out now is ASUS L1N64-SLI WS, k8 opterons work fine in it... lets hope these will too.
Though it probably will take a bios update to at least show the cpu name properly.
Would with 4 pci-e slots and SLI support, overclocking features, plenty of room around the sockets (for a dual-socket board anyway) this would make an excellent desktop.
I also hope more quadFX boards come out soon. I like the asus, sure... but at least an update to support pci-express v2 would be good. If they also managed to fit more memory slots and all 4 gigabit lan ports that are supported by the chipset, it would be even better. And having choice between more brands would be a good thing too. Reply
TA152H - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkThis is a review that should not have been made. The Barcelona review by itself was enough to let people know what they could expect from a Phenom, instead of introducing bad data onto the web. First of all, the Barcelona is different from the Phenom, they have different cache arrangements, and that does make a difference.
And then, the chart about the Barcelona competing with two dual-core K8s is so bad I wanted to scream. The pair of dual cores can access memory at the same time, the single quad-core can not. This is not an advantage a K8 will have over a Phenom in equivalent configurations.
I know you need hits for sites like this, but this is just a bad review. It's like telling everyone they are too stupid to really get an idea from real information, and instead need for you to use misinformation due to bad comparisons, to tell them what you think the performance will be like. It's bad. Reply
sdsdv10 - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkActually, if you read the beginning of the article AMD asked them (Anandtec) to do this.
We got a call earlier in the week asking if we'd be able to turn around a review of AMD's Barcelona processor for Monday if we received hardware on Saturday. Naturally we didn't decline, and as we were secretly working on a Barcelona preview already, AMD's timing was impeccable.
Furthermore, AMD was responsible for the system the CPU's were tested on.
AMD shipped us a pair of 2U servers a day early,
Don't go bashing Anandtech for doing something AMD asked them to do, just because you don't like the results. Reply
MadBoris - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkIt wasn't a review, it was a preview.
It should be taken with a grain of salt, and yes the dual K8's is not the best comparison, it opens up even more questions to what the real world penalty from two sockets actually is.
But all of us really want to know what it means for us, not just integer intensive tests but FP like for games, etc.
Probably the most informative benchmark to me would have been the performance of a single core K8 vs K10, which would have showed me the improvements of the architecture and I can extrapolate alot from there. Running onecpu boot option with Vista could have done that, but they were pressed for time.
Also Supreme Commander is one of the most CPU dependant games around, with rendering and sim threads, so it will clearly show CPU granularity probably better than any other game currently. Reply
leexgx - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkwe need to see Single Thread tests as well to see what an k8 cpu running in 1 cpu mode that an k10 can do in 1 cpu mode (both running at the same 2ghz speed)
it has to be faster then my 3.1ghz cpu if i am going to get it (Quad be nice tho)
and the tests should be done under XP if ony 1 cpu is going to be used Vista has to many services that can interfere with results (booting up into vista now is now resulting in Constant hard disk use whare as my XP setup just the start thats an little slow when desktop is first loading after that programs are faster) Reply
MadBoris - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - link
we need to see Single Thread tests as well to see what an k8 cpu running in 1 cpu mode that an k10 can do in 1 cpu mode (both running at the same 2ghz speed)
That is what I said earlier as well, single threaded comparison between K8 and K10 would tell me alot...
So http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/13176/5">techreport to the rescue.
Cinebench single thread: (higher better)
Opteron 2218 HE (K8 2.6GHZ) - 2449
Opteron 2360 SE (K10 2.5Ghz) - 2385
No architectural improvement witnessed here on a single core with k10.
Myrimatch: (lower better)
1 thread Opteron 2218 HE (K8 2.6GHZ) - 506
1 thread Opteron 2360 SE (K10 2.5Ghz) - 656
2 thread Opteron 2218 HE (K8 2.6GHZ) - 353
2 thread Opteron 2360 SE (K10 2.5Ghz) - 373
Decent improvement witnessed here on a single thread, but then 2 threads on K10(373) falls much closer to the level of K8(353). This protein benchmark likely reacts to some memory benefits, because other tests don't show raw computational advantages.
STARS Euler3d: (higher better)
1 thread Opteron 2218 HE (K8 2.6GHZ) - .53
1 thread Opteron 2360 SE (K10 2.5Ghz) - .54
2 thread Opteron 2218 HE (K8 2.6GHZ) - .96
2 thread Opteron 2360 SE (K10 2.5Ghz) - .96
No tangible architectural improvement witnessed here on a single core with k10 OVER k8.
So it looks like the actual core architecture is not all that much better on K10 over K8. Surely nothing like the advance we saw with a Core 2 architecture (Although Intel had alot of room for improvement over prescott).
The K10 begins to really advance and scale with 4 threads (probably a product of 2 socket penalty with K8). Scaling beyond 4 threads is obviously where the K10 will show it's legs, and 2 - 4 sockets on K10 is where it will scale better than Intel. Reply
IntelUser2000 - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - linkMadboris, your analyzation on Myrimatch tests are wrong. Let's take a look at your post about Myrimatch:
Myrimatch: (lower better)
1 thread Opteron 2218 HE (K8 2.6GHZ) - 506
1 thread Opteron 2360 SE (K10 2.5Ghz) - 656
2 thread Opteron 2218 HE (K8 2.6GHZ) - 353
2 thread Opteron 2360 SE (K10 2.5Ghz) - 373
Decent improvement witnessed here on a single thread, but then 2 threads on K10(373) falls much closer to the level of K8(353). This protein benchmark likely reacts to some memory benefits, because other tests don't show raw computational advantages
It's time in seconds, meaning at one thread, Opteron 2218 HE is approximately 30% faster than the 2360 HE. In 2 threads, Barcelona does better as it closes up to the K8, but still doesn't have an advantage. Reply
MadBoris - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - linkGood catch, thx. Even though I said 'lower is better', I swapped it in my mind.
So K10 looks much worse than K8 single core in that test.
I wonder where that penalty comes from and if it will pronounced in other apps. Reply
Visual - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkI have a question about RAM types. Are the slots different for normal unregistered DDR2, registered DDR2, and FBDIMM DDR2?
If any of those are the same slots, what happens if you mess up and put the wrong type?
And I also have a suggestion for you Anand. Try testing with ASUS L1N64-SLI WS motherboard. It is originally for the QuadFX line of processors from AMD, but apparently the old K8 socket-f opterons work just fine in it, with unregistered DDR2. I assume the newer Barcelona opterons will too. Reply
MadBoris - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkGood preview Anand...
Nice closing summary that put's it in a nutshell.
Too bad you couldn't drop a q6600 into that socket instead of just a k10 for a comparison that we all are looking forward to. ;)
Considering it isn't coming to desktop for a while, no biggie, it will be compared when it matters.
What is the huge deal in AMD not being able to get to high frequencies, I don't understand?
3ghz was in range many years ago for Intel, AMD still has difficulty getting parts out at 3Ghz. I lack the understanding if it's just manufacturing limits/costs or is it more due to their architecture limitations (interconnects and such).
The trouble for AMD this time around is that Phenom is a much larger chip than the outgoing Athlon 64 X2, whereas Intel's Penryn family will actually be smaller than Conroe. AMD is already losing a considerable amount of money each quarter, so fabbing a larger chip at the same price as current CPUs will only make the situation worse. However, Intel can afford to continue to keep its processors as aggressively priced, especially moving to 45nm.
To put it plainly: Phenom/Barcelona make this price war more difficult on AMD, while Penryn makes it easier on Intel. What's the end game? Is there a solution?
This is the part that is really scarry. Intel who had profits in the 5bil range last quarter, can literally drive AMD into the ground by outpricing and outperforming them. Even if Intel decides to start losing money with a hugely aggressive price/performance ratio that is hard to pass up, AMD would not be able to withstand that onslaught for long...Question is does Intel have the blood lust to ring the death knoll once and for all and try to drive them into the ground. The saving grace here really is the high end server market with 2 and 4 socket configurations(8,16 cores) where Barcelona will stretch it's legs over Intel.
I hope for the best! Reply
Cybercat - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkIntel could do that, but they're not going to. AMD has to stay in business, because Intel can't afford to become a monopoly. However, Intel doesn't have a problem putting AMD on life support.
It's a scary time for AMD. Reply
MadBoris - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkHehe, good point. War of attrition. Break down their supply lines and lower their profits in such a way that they can't afford to do extensive R&D to innovate technology. Keeps them hobbling near by, but not as dangerously competitive.
Intel can even make themselves "appear" more superior as a company by comparison to their runner up, and yet all the while they are innovating at the same pace they always were and not all that better, just have the appearance of greater superiority.
Sun TechTzu, the art of silicon business. ;) Reply
Regs - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkYou might just shoot yourself in the foot if and when AMD brings out the Sledgehammer. Reply
leexgx - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkthay did it was an K8 for 3 years but then Core2 came with its Sledgehammer
taken AMD to long to bring there new cpu out Reply
jones377 - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkI compared the performance scaling between Barcelona and Core 2 Quad where Anandtech has run the same benchmarks. The C2Q results are taken from http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc...">this review:
The CPUs used are Barcelona @2GHz, @2.5GHz and firstname.lastname@example.com, QX6850@3GHz. Both increasing the frequency by 25%. Only a few benchmarks were common between both. The gaming benchmarks for example were run at 1024*768 for Barcelona and 1600*1200 for C2Q so those can't be compared.
Barcelona 2GHz to 2.5GHz:
14.7% - Sysmark 2007
14.5% - iTunes
21.2% - 3dsmax R9 SPECapc
19.4% - Lightwave 3D
email@example.com to QX6850@3GHz:
15.2% - Sysmark 2007
21.5% - iTunes
23.5% - 3dsmax R9 SPECapc
21.3%/24.1% - Lightwave 3D - 2 different runs
It should be noted that QX6850 runs at a higher FSB than Q6600 but this can't be helped. It's the best numbers I could find. Reply
MadBoris - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkInteresting strictly from a CPU scaling perspective. It's good to consider them all as an average lump, as some of that code is likely "Intellified", like Itunes.
I was hoping to see a bigger advantage in scaling due to the AMD architecture, scaling doesn't appear like it is going to be "too much" better over Intel though. Reply
flyck - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkyou might want to consider that opteron had limited bandwith DDR2 667 for 4 cores which limits scaling and performance. For phenom we speak about DDR2 1024 without the registered latency. Reply
MadBoris - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkhmm, especially if it is only @cas5, as mentioned above.
It will be interesting to see if it yields anything more than just a few percent, as to scaling, and if benefits compound per socket.
As to one socket and 4 cores I don't really envision it being that much more than a few percent, but then again, I'm not investing any thought or speculation to try and figure out what will be answered when it actually matters and HW is available.
Major point for me is, being able to OC a q6600($280) to 3.2GHz - 3.4GHz on air is going to be real stiff competition for AMD's Phenom, as to my purchasing decisions, which is all I am concerned about mainly.
Also I believe all peoples talk about "true" quad is going to fall a bit flat for the majority of applications/games in real world comparisons with Kentsfield. Because already anyone that is interested to research it can see that the cache/bus penalties in scaling from 2 to 4 cores is basically nonexistent on applications that actually 'fully leverage' all 4 cores. Some apps will benefit, but I expect this to come to light before long and people will see that the penalty of 2 cores in one (Intel Quad), was more speculation, than actual reality, for 'most' consumer applications and games.
I do like AMD's advances but we seriously need more frequency, CPI cannot be overlooked. Reply
duploxxx - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkif AMD is already able to show multiple phenom systems on 3.0GHZ without dditional cooling (just boxed heatpipe cooler) then i wouldn't be too worried about oc performance of k10 Reply
ilkhan - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link15% over K8 is not going to be enough if it launches at (or at least doesn't overclock easily to) 3.2Ghz. At the 2.5 indicated here, email@example.com+ is going to eat agena for lunch, while being more profitable for intel than agena can hope to be for AMD.
Pity. Reply
JackPack - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkBased on these numbers, consumers are likely going to stick with Intel quads.
Clock for clock, Kentsfield was often >30% faster than Quad FX. Barcelona being 15% faster than K8 is reasonable but it's clearly not going to touch Penryn/Yorkfield. Reply
duploxxx - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkAlltough it is nice to see what anand tried to put here on electronic paper. I can't be compared to the real phenom in a few months.
If you want to know why, check Anand's memory review of a year a go and check how well k8 and also k10 is scaling with better/faster memory.
in a barcelona rig you have reg 667@cas5.
so people who are already making conclusions on these benches, one reply: too early. Reply
JackPack - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkThis isn't K8 though. The L3 in Barcelona is going to make it less sensitive to memory bandwidth and latency. Reply
Regs - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkMemory hits and misses (latency) have nothing to do with the L3. The L3 is there as a buffer for the information being proportion to the 4 cores. Reply
JackPack - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkLook up the term "memory hierarchy." Reply
Regs - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - linkwhat do you think pulls the data into the L3? God? Reply
JackPack - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - linkIt's called prefetching. The data is in the L3 before the CPU needs it, reducing memory traffic and latency.
Not only that, but Barcelona has a L3 latency of 20ns. To get data from the main memory, it has to go through all levels of cache. When you look at the cumulative latency of the memory hierarchy, the one or two cycle penalty of RDDR2 is trivial. Reply
Regs - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - linkSorry, I did not mean to sound like a Dick Jack.
The L3 cache is specifically designed with data sharing in mind. Which means all data unshared is evicted from the cache back into main memory. The L3 is also shared between four different cores and the access to the L3 must be arbitrated between them. This means the latency of the L3 actually depends on the core frequencies.
Pre-fetches are made by the core and stored in the L1D cache of the Barc. They used to be stored in the L2 on the K8. So if the pre-fetch misses, it will look for information in the L2 and not the L3. Reply
xenon74 - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkSo if I understand this correctly:
1.) You were trying to overclock registered DDR2 memory to give us a bit more even comparison between Athlon X2 and Phenom X4 using Opteron Barcelona QC and old Opteron DC.
2.) OCing reg.DDR2 memory was unsuccessful which resulted that AMD sever stopped POSTing.
3.) In two hours you come up with this "Phenom preview".
Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkNot exactly :) The server not POSTing had nothing to do with trying to run faster DDR2 memory in the system, all of the benchmarking for the Phenom preview was done before the board stopped POSTing, I was simply trying to add more benchmarks to Johan's article when it ceased operation. Apparently others have been having issues with these motherboards and it appears that a new rev of the board may correct the problems.
Take care,
Anand Reply
Reynod - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkGreat first article Anand.
As usual exceptionally well written and you avoided all of the fanboi nonsense.
I'd like more detailed stuff when you get the chance please?
Cheers :) Reply
Regs - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkI guess only more clock speed, a better revision of the processor, and maybe a AM2-AM3 mobo will be a bit better for the Phenom?
I wasn't expecting a whole lot out of AMD's barc. Though I do wonder what they have planned to help it for the retail desktop version. Like you said it just makes it more difficult to price it unless it can compete better. Reply
Locutus465 - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkI've been waiting to see what AMD would do as a frist step on the comeback trail... This is a good opening salvo... True it's not going to be a Core 2 killer, but coupled with future technologies this is a great start! I hope they can afford to continue keeping pricing low while producing newer/better chips... Reply
Etern205 - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkHope this preview about Barcelona is as honest article where it tells
the consumer the truth as to how well this cpu performs.
Anandtech is all about honesty right?
If that is true (which it always is), then this article better not be one
of those that got approved by AMD before it was pubished!
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=441">http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=441 Reply
Locutus465 - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkNot sure why you're questioning anand's honesty, they've always been fair and accurate as far as I can see. And frankly, this artical fits with everything that's been said thus far about the new chip, it'll be much more competitive, but not to the point of winning the battle for AMD. Reply
retrospooty - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkAgreed AT has always been fair and unbiased with reviews, that is why it is so popular.
Even if there was an error in the test methodology, and someone points it out, they will update the article with the correction. Reply
Etern205 - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkAnandtech is a great site and their article is always gives the
best info, which is why when I'm about to get a new part like a cpu, or video card, I'll
come to this site for reviews. And 100% of the time the results are always correct.
But as for this "Barcelona"... mmm I don't know
not just this site but to all the other sites as a whole.
AbRASiON - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkAnand's final page sums it up really.
Pythias - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkI sure as hell hope not. If either side prevails, say goodbye to affordable processors. Reply
hifisoftware - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkI guess it means we just have to say good buy to affordable processors then. Maybe AMD can ramp-up speeds very fast, but until they get there, they will be hurting/losing money. How much can they bleed red ink until it's too much? Reply
Howard - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkWe'll have more Barcelona server content coming as we spend more time with the system, but be sure to check out Johan's coverage to get a good idea of how Barcelona will compete in its //indended// market. Reply
MDme - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkI have a feeling that Barcelona will be much more competitive in the server market compared with the desktop market. i.e. Barcey will hold off intel in the server space while it may not be enough to dethrone intel in the desktop arena, it will at least narrow the gap with intel. Reply
DeepThought86 - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkBarcelona, the chip that launched a thousand flames!
Fanbois on both sides: on your mark, get set, go! Reply
KeypoX - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkDidnt know why i couldnt view it till now but been waiting all day :) Reply
Frags - Saturday, September 15, 2007 - linkAMD needs a Forrest Gump moment with the leg braces flying off to run away from the Bully.
The road to Barcelona was a Flop. They need to cut their path to 45nm in half or recieve a blood transfusion soon. Reply
KeypoX - Monday, September 10, 2007 - linkbut it was called "AMD's Quadcore: defending new found territory" on my google Anandtech article channel. Reply
Thatguy97 - Thursday, June 18, 2015 - linklol i sadly remember this embarrising launch Reply