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Hulk - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkI trust Anandtech reviews but that contrast ratio would be a huge concern of mine if I were dropping $1000 on a monitor. Reply
noeldillabough - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkI'm using an older 26" version of this at work and its great...so much so that when I work on a different machine I'm grumbling about the difference! Reply
coolhardware - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkI could not find a 26" (older) version of this monitor, anybody have a model #??? Reply
asakharov - Sunday, October 06, 2013 - linkNEC 2690WUXI Reply
Death666Angel - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkIf you drop 1k on this you need it for the uniformity and color/calibration results, not for high contrast for your movies and games. :) Reply
Hulk - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkActually when I do post work for video/photo, lattitude (dynamic range), which is ability to see detail in the darkest and brightest areas is a big deal, as important if not more so than color space and uniformity. A low contrast ratio means that highlights turn into bright blotches and dark areas simply appear crushed.
I look for contrast ratio first, then color space, and finally uniformity in a monitor for doing work in post. Uniformity and color space are useless if I can't see any detail in the bright and dark areas. Reply
Senti - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkYou are absolutely wrong about contrast. Contrast is the ratio of pure white to pure black and nothing else. This has nothing to do with ability to display dark and bright shades. Actually, the reverse is true: VA panels have great contrast and awful dark tones reproduction. I can see the difference between all the shades with my NEC PA241W even though its contrast is quite modest.
In general, I have to say that displays are definitely not Anandtech's specialization. Not just mine opinion, as I heard several times how disappointed people I know were at the usefulness of such reviews here. Some important points that AT completely missed: 10-bit mode of operation, overdrive errors, refresh rates, impact of different Uniformity setting values. Reply
Hulk - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkNo. You are wrong.
Contrast ratio should be high for a good display.
Furthermore, dynamic range and contrast are closely related and a good display should have a contrast ratio of at least 1000:1.
Finally, you might want to read up on this subjest.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/dynamic... Reply
Gothmoth - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linksorry hulk. but you are clueless.
look at eizo coloredge or quato monitors.
and don´t argue about something you obviously know not much about.
enjoy the faked contrast ratio numbers of your gaming monitors and google a few more articles that say nothing about actual display quality . Reply
Samus - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkOhh Hulk, throwing wiki links to general topics with no direct data about this monitor (or any other comparison) is fail.
No where in Contrast Ratio does it say anything along the lines of quality monitors have high contrast ratio or low-end monitors have weak contrast ratio, etc. Reply
sweenish - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkBy your own admission, the monitor reviewed is fine as it does have the 1000:1 that you quote for a display being good. I know you say "at least," but that still makes all your complaining useless as this monitor meets your criteria. Reply
khanov - Sunday, September 29, 2013 - linkHulk fail. :-(
Hulk mad! Reply
foxalopex - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkSenti - I own this monitor so I can attest that you are right. What's striking about this monitor visually is that at first it doesn't look like it has a lot of contrast. That is the absolute white and absolute black colours are not as extreme as most monitors. At least until you put up a picture or run a movie that has very light and dark scenes. What you end up seeing is a lot of gradients of grey that are not pushed into absolute black or white. The results are amazing compared to what you would see in a normal monitor. Reply
Gothmoth - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkwe have pro eizo and quato monitors here, they are the best for photographers and designers and they have a contrast ratio of .. guess what.... 1000:1
some noobs think higher contrast ratio numbers and maybe even dynamic contrast makes a monitor better... well they are wrong. Reply
rabidwombatsquirrel - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkWell higher contrast ratios DO make a monitor better and I can't wait until we get OLED tech and 4k+ in these NEC displays since I do miss the extra deep blacks and contrast even for photos.
That said screen uniformity, colors not going wonky looked at even a hint off angle, perfect primary location, perfect saturation and primary luminance tracking, wide gamut, etc. also matter a ton and these PA series do all that amazingly well (Eizo too, although they cost twice as much).
The internal 14bit 3D LUT in these PA monitors works wonders. And unlike with most wide gamut monitors you can pop it into a PERFECT sRGB emulation with not only just gamma 2.2 option but even sRGB TRC options as well, in fact, it does sRGB a lot better than virtually any sRGB monitor, almost all of which actually fall a bit short of sRGB primaries.
These are superb monitors!!!! That also said I can't wait until they get OLED into them for amazing blacks and contrast ratios and also 4k+ since the current res is bothersomely low (not that it's worse than 99.9999% of others, I just want the tablet/HDTV retina type stuff to appear in desktop monitors already). Reply
rabidwombatsquirrel - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkYeah being able to get low black levels is important and I surely wish IPS was better.
That said, much of what you are saying is totally wrong! Dynamic range is not the ability to distinguish between various dark tones and various bright tones. And a low contrast ratio absolutely does not mean that dark tones appear crushed!!!! (unless you are using absolute calibration to pure black instead of relative, which doesn't work out all that well on anything other than OLED screens, although the top PVA and plasma could almost start to get away with it without crushing too much but even then you'll lose the ability to tell apart the very darkest tones) or that bright tones appear clipped!
A monitor with a poor contrast ratio tends to have blacks that are not all that dark and it's often easier to see into deep shadow details on them.
A monitor with superb calibration will leave the lowest steps all distinguishable if you use relative black level calibration while many cheap ones, even with intensely deep black levels and high contrast ratio, may crush all those tones together with no way to separate them and they might also clip the top end so the top few shades all look the same, that definitely isn't the case here.
Not measure here are things like saturation tracking curves and primary luminance tracking curves, many monitors appear to be perfectly calibrated but if you toss in these tests many will fail, some quite badly, here the lines are near perfect thanks to the 14bit 3D LUT. Reply
rabidwombatsquirrel - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkMy post above was supposed to be to Hulk not you Senti, sorry it got placed wrong. Reply
Death666Angel - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkWell, NEC has been doing it like this for most of their high-ish end monitors for years and clearly they are much sought after. The way they make their displays so homogeneous is resulting in this "low" contrast ratio. I haven't ever seen anyone complain about contrast ratios above 500:1 in the professional space this is aimed at. I have also never seen anyone want an OLED display for their work, as you seem to desire. Also, last I checked, print contrast ratios are below 500:1 as are nearly all film/tv contrast ratios. Reply
chrnochime - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkIf you are as much an expert as you claim to be you wouldn't need to cast doubt into how good this monitor is when it comes to contrast, since you'd KNOW already. And if it's anywhere as bad as you think it is, NEC would not have people still buying them to warrant making this most recent iteration. Reply
ZeDestructor - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkA 16:10 display! rare things these days..
Nice results, but how does it compare to the similarly-targeted/specced Dell U2413, or even the older U2410?
Kinda dissapointed at the lack of 4K at 24" 16:10 (3840x2400), but I guess we still have to wait for the current stock of 1920x1200 panels to get pushed out and 4K stocks to build... Then again, with some good production, marketing, we could be having 8K at 20" already (my phone has 1920x1080 at 5", just scale up the panel) Reply
DanNeely - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkDefect rates on an 8k panel would probably be prohibitive. Reply
ZeDestructor - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkI'm curious on how high they are...
If it remains withing tolerable limits, I'd happily take upto 200 dead pixels or something similar... Reply
MrSpadge - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkLet's talk again once you have a few dozen permanently white, red green or blue dots right in your primary viewing area! Reply
ddriver - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkAs long as the pixels aren't clustered in a small region dead (dark) pixels will probably not be distinguishable. Stuck bright pixels are a different matter, but at that pixel pitch shouldn't be that much annoying too. Reply
ZeDestructor - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkAs ddriver said,, as long as it isn't in a cluster, its fine. 200-400 dead pixels spread out over a 440+ppi 24" panel at 30-60cm (my view distances for a desktop) will be pretty hard to spot.. Reply
SodaAnt - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkI know that I've seen an 8K prototype at 30" before at least, and it was pretty damn beautiful, but as far as I know, the (well known) company that made it hasn't brought it to market yet. Reply
speconomist - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkYou mean 32K, as the 20''monitor is 16 times larger than a 5'' inches monitor. Reply
garadante - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkNo, it'd be 8k. Yes, it would be 32 megapixels (roughly) but 4k doesn't mean 4 megapixels. It means 4k pixel width. So 8k pixel width is the same as a 1080p panel stacked 4 wide, 4 high. Reply
BlakKW - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkI would really like to understand your analogy of 4 wide, 4 high...it would help me remember the reason 4k is better and how this scales when you add a "k". Also, I've seen it argued that even 4k exceeds the human eye's ability to differentiate, so at what point does "everyone" agree you can't tell the difference? Reply
ZeDestructor - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - link4 wide, 4 high he means in terms of "stitching" 1920x1080 (2Kx1K resolution, abbreviated to 2K in some circles, 1080p elsewhere) panels, leading to an effective resolution of 7680x4320 (8Kx4K naming).
When I was referring to a panel sizes, I was referring to the diagonal measurement, as most things are quoted/marketed/sold using that measure. Thus 20" = 16 5" panels.
"4k is better and how this scales when you add a "k". " It doesn't. K stands for "kilo", the x1000 prefix. Reply
1Angelreloaded - Saturday, October 05, 2013 - linkActually the whole 1080p labeling is for the HDTV industry and makes no complete sense to use in the PC space and 1080p(1920x1200) is 16 megapixels with 16:10 wide(Camera dependant). Reply
bobbozzo - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkI have the Dell u2412M... I like that it's 16:10 (versus my 16:9 Samsung (below)); on 16:9 I don't feel like there's room for the taskbar...
Anandtech reviewed the 2412:
At home I have a 23" Samsung 2343bwx which is 2048x1180, but its TN panel has serious problems for me when doing design or photo work; the viewing angle affects colors so much that a solid color looks significantly different at top or bottom of the screen versus the middle. If I move my head, it changes, so it's not a uniformity problem; just viewing angle. I sit over arm's length away, so it'd be even worse closer up. Reply
ZeDestructor - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - link2412 is only sRGB, not wide gamut like the 2408, U2410 and U2413.
I agree on anything wider than 16:10 being too wide. 16:10 IMO is the perfect size this side of dynamically-sized holograms. Reply
tarzan1234 - Monday, December 09, 2013 - linkThis monitor is designed for graphic designers and digital photographers and they don't need and don't want high contrast. The goal is what you see on screen is what you get in prints. That means what's on the display must be as close to what's on a print as possible. In a standard viewing condition (standard light, natural daylight white), matte paper prints have contrast ratio of about 1:200, luster paper has contrast ratio of about 1:250 to 1:300 and glossy paper has a contrast ratio of about 1:350 to 1:400. For that reason, if you have a high contrast monitor, what you see on screen will be different from what you get in print. You can't change contrast ratio of paper, the only thing you can do is to have a monitor that can be adjusted close to that. That's what professional grade monitors are for. Some of the very best (and most expensive) graphic monitors are made by Eizo, and their contrast ratios are in 1:250 to 1:400 range. One additional note, photographers often set their monitor light output to around 80cd/m2 to 120cd/m2 for the same reason, getting close to how prints look. If the display is brighter, you often end up with dark prints because if it looks OK on a to bright monitor, the prints will be too dark. Reply
WhitneyLand - Friday, September 27, 2013 - link>>do you need this? If you're asking that question then you probably don't.
Instead of this answer how about telling us things like:
1) Is it possible to see benefits without calibration tools?
2) Is it possible to see benefits in applications that don't manage color profiles?
3) If you grab a couple non color-pro friends and ask them if it looks better, what do they say? Reply
cheinonen - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkOK, I'll answer those quickly then:
1) Yes, because the out-of-box experience is also very good and it is still more uniform than any other display tested to date. The calibration does not affect the uniformity.
2) Yes, and especially with calibration. The SpectraView software does all of its work inside the monitor LUT, leaving the video LUT alone. So color profiles or not, the image should be basically perfect.
3) I'd have to grab them and see, though I'll admit to mostly having friends who I've converted to really caring about color. Reply
DanNeely - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkAs a multi-monitor user #3 matters to me because it makes all my screens look the same. At work I've got 3 mismatched Dell screens (1901, 2208, 2210); and the fact that despite fiddling I can't get the colors on them to match is noticeable and a bit annoying. At home I have 3 NEC monitors (all bought refurbed to avoid breaking the bank) 2x 2090 and 1x 3090; out of the box colors between the three are close enough to each other that I've never felt the need to buy a colorimeter to calibrate them. Reply
inighthawki - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkMy experience has taught me to always go with the same monitors in multimon setups. 2x or 3x of the same brand, same model. Reply
DanNeely - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkEven if I could've afforded multiple 30's at home I don't have the deskspace for them; and in any event I bought the 20's a year or two before the 30. (The 3way setup was however a major factor in why I bought what I did.)
At work I got the screens one at a time; and had a pair of 2208's at one point; they matched each other about as poorly as the 2208 and 2210 do. Reply
powruser - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkWe have very similar setups. I have one 2490WUXi as my primary display and two 2090UXi as secondary display. All are first generation models which have the A-TW polarizer which greatly reduces the purple IPS glow on dark images when viewing at off angles. I also bought mine refurbished. NEC has excellent refurbs, and their warranty service is excellent as well. You'd have to pry my A-TW NEC displays from my cold dead hands! :) Reply
cheinonen - Monday, September 30, 2013 - linkThe current version of CalMAN, at least one of the higher end versions, has support for calibrating a set of displays to look identical. It might mean none of them are perfect, but they all look about the same. I've never tested it out, as it's meant for commercial installations, but that might help with this issue if you already have the monitors. Reply
1Angelreloaded - Saturday, October 05, 2013 - linkinstead of using 3 monitors, have you ever thought about moving to a large format display they make professional based ones for 40inch and higher now at 4k levels with IPS tech, that's a lot more realestate than say 3 1080p s side by side. Reply
nathanddrews - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkI think I already know the answer to this: "too much".
How much would it actually add to the cost of a monitor to have it pre-calibrated using this method at the factory? Obviously a trained human would be expensive and time consuming, but what about a series of sensors on the assembly line that tune the display before packaging? Panels that meet the requirements for uniformity and gamut get one price, displays that can't make the cut go off to a different bin. Doesn't seem too ridiculous to me. Reply
Senti - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkThe problem is the transportation after that will likely screw everything in unpredictable way. Reply
nathanddrews - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkHow, exactly? I've never heard of shipping or transporting affecting display calibration... Reply
foxalopex - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkProfessional calibration software like Spectraview is designed to ask for a recalibration every 2-4 weeks. So yes by the time it gets to you it's not as calibrated as it could be. Keep in mind this is a professional monitor so they're nothing like a normal user. If you're more on a budget, a good $600-700 IPS monitor would probably work for most folks but for folks who insist on the best, you can't go wrong. Reply
DanNeely - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkThat drift is due to components aging with; a good factory calibration should still be good when you unbox it and will stay better than what we normally suffer with for a while since the bad one is drifting too.
Some tablet vendors have been doing it for at least a year now. I'd be interested in seeing how much the screens on them have drifted if Anandtech used any of the tablets they did color calibration testing a year ago as daily drivers. Reply
bobbozzo - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linksee above:
cheinonen - Friday, September 27, 2013
...the out-of-box experience is also very good and it is still more uniform than any other display tested to date. The calibration does not affect the uniformity. Reply
cheinonen - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkJust as an FYI, measuring the uniformity to the degree that I do takes close to two hours per display. That's with a fast meter and moving it between locations as quickly as possible but still allowing time for each sample to settle and be accurate. Adding that kind of testing to every display will increase the price a lot. Most companies wouldn't see any return on investment there, since the majority of consumers still don't care enough. Even if you only add $25 to the cost, that's a lot for most people unless you're talking about $1,200 displays. Reply
dushyanth - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkwhich would you choose: Eizo CS230 or this Reply
risa2000 - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkI have some "cheap" Eizo and cannot complain, all my friends who are amateur photographers have Eizos, it is kind of benchmark here (Europe), but I have never seen a review of anything Eizo here. So either they do not sell them in US, or Anand has some itch about them. Reply
cheinonen - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkEizo has never contacted me about a review sample, nor have I heard back from them the times I have tried to contact them. I have nothing against Eizo, and I'd love to review some of them, but they've never provided the opportunity. That's all. Reply
foxalopex - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkAwesome, I actually own this monitor. I bought it about a week ago as PA242W-BK-SK kit which includes NEC's rebranded X-rite Calibrator. I have to agree with Anandtech's review, it's an absolutely amazing monitor for any colour accurate work. Doing some research according to specifications, it uses the newest developed AH-IPS panels from LG (2011) and brand new backlight technology so it is definitely state of the art.
I wonder if Anandtech is using the latest updated SpectraView software because there are a few settings which might help. (Didn't try the previous version which came with the monitor) I recall a special check box in the settings for low cadela settings which averages out the readings which helps weaker sensors work better and a slower 52 point setting that is suppose to get better results.
That said, I agree with their conclusions. It's only major weakness is that the black level isn't as black as it could be. But it more than makes up for it in that you can actually see gradients of grey. It's hard to explain but to the eyes it's a weird thing to see. At first you can't see as much contrast as some high end LCD TVs but at the same time you see tremendously more details in the gradients from the light to dark areas. This is what makes it spectacular as a professional LCD monitor and valuable for photographic work.
That said, I know some of you mentioning this is too expensive. It isn't for the folks who know what it's used for. After all you wouldn't take an F1 car (which probably be beat by a cheapo truck) to do offroad rally racing with. Reply
chrnochime - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkAgreed. This is a tool for amateur/professional photographers/photo work, not for gaming. And really, it's the same price of a titan, which definitely will depreciate a lot faster in several years while this depreciates a lot less and will still be a great tool to use. Reply
hmcindie - Monday, September 30, 2013 - linkI disagree. What you are seeing is something you really shouldn't see that well. The problem in color grading with a monitor with very low contrast (such as this) is that you tend to overcompensate your curves and do very contrasty looks. With a display that can actually do good contrast ratios, it will just look quite different. I have no idea why these monitors are billed as professional. I have a couple NECs and EIZOs at work and they are not all that. There is a reason all our serious grading is done with plasmas (though those suck at desktop work). Reply
foxalopex - Monday, September 30, 2013 - linkI guess you don't do much work as a photographer then. A known problem in photography is that the average photographer will over saturate and over contrast pictures compared to what is really there. Someone who's very serious into photography and isn't trying to go for an entirely artistic impression is usually trying to get the the photo to as close to real life as possible. Working with raw photos, one of the problems you realize is that if you over-boost the contrast, it might look visually better to a casual viewer but you end up losing a lot of details in the images. This is something you see all the time with cheaper digicams. They produce vibrant, over contrasted pictures expected by the consumer while a professional digital camera doesn't but has amazing true dynamic range. Monitors can be like that too. NEC's and Eizo's are well loved because they display a large range of colors. Cheap monitors tend to over saturate and over contrast because while they look good, they are not very accurate. When you mean plasma, I assume a TV. A TV is optimized to crank out as much light as possible. You can't do that without sacrificing some of the quality in the image. NEC's and Eizo's are meant to be used in low light environments so they don't need to be super bright. Reply
hmcindie - Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - linkI actually do quite a lot of work as a photographer and as a color grader. NEC and Eizo have horrible dynamic range as monitors. They color performance is good, but nothing dramatically different from example my home monitor which is the HP2740w (calibrated). For example the 2grand Eizo I'm using at work has worse light bleed in the corners. So no, I do not agree that these things are worth the money. We use Panasonic Plasmas for grading at work and at home I have the Pioneer Kuro (last model before discontinued) and it blows away any NEC or EIZO. The difference in dynamic range and color fidelity is not even close. It's not about saturation, it's about accuracy. Reply
Alan G - Friday, September 27, 2013 - linkThose of us who are photographers swear by NEC monitors and the Spectraview callibration system (though I sometimes use the ArgyllCMS software which offers more flexibility and has the added feature of being free). The most important thing for us is to get an image on our display that will most closely resemble the print that comes out of our printer so that we can use Soft Proofing in Photoshop or Lightroom to make the necessary corrections. I'm worried that your test settings will misinform those potential users who might be photographers but have never had a monitor like this one. 200 cd/m^2 is really very high. Almost everyone that I know is somewhere in the 110-140 range depending on the lighting of their work room. I drop the contrast down to 250:1 as well. It may be that folks who do video editing work with higher settings because their end display is far different from a photographic print.
These niggles aside, it's good to see NEC come out with a new display. My P221W is still working well after five years and the color is still faithful. I'll likely be getting this new one next year. Reply
cheinonen - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkWe do everything at 200 cd/m2, as that was a more common setting for general use, and at 80 cd/m2, which is the sRGB standard. Adding 140 cd/m2 would be possible but also add a lot of extra work to the reviews and I feel that 80 and 200 covers it fairly well. Reply
birdsoneview - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkLooks great for photo, graphics, and visual effects work, but for film/video editing that input lag is unacceptable. Reply
AssBall - Sunday, September 29, 2013 - linkWrong. It is perfectly acceptable. Reply
foxalopex - Monday, September 30, 2013 - linkInput lag? The monitor is rated for 27 ms which works out to 37 fps. Video is typically only shot at 25 or 29.97 fps. While a gamer might need more than this, video certainly isn't this fast. Reply
marqs - Monday, September 30, 2013 - linkInput lag consists of signal processing latency and pixel response time, of which only the latter limits the practical fps. By enabling overdrive the response time should improve by a couple of ms. Btw, I think the latency charts wrongly claim to be against an CRT, if the results are taken from averaging the results from Leo Bodnar lag tester (which results to ~7.5ms for a lagless CRT). The real input lag for PA242W should be around 20ms with default settings. Reply
cbelle - Monday, September 30, 2013 - link720/60 is a standard used by many including ABC, ESPN and FOX in the US. So this is still could be an issue to video and music editors (video sync playback).
Not horrendous but not great either. But if it can be lowered to 20ms that would be nice.
For video editing I think it still lacks 10 bit, SDI and video production specific needs. It is nice alternative for home editing but not sure in a suite or in the field. Reply
Bitmambo - Saturday, September 28, 2013 - linkWhen will Anandtech test Eizo displays and see whether the significant price gap is justified ? One area that is hardly if ever addressed in display reviews is the bit depth of the DAC circuits, and the resultant impact on signal aliasing (Mach banding) and the quality of gradients, the signal-to-noise ratio. Uniformity, linearity, brightness, contrast ratio, response time and gamut are not all there is to display technology. Speaking of contrast ratio, we need numbers, that are not biased by the absolute blackness of the display, since anything below 1% brightness will multiply the factor enormously for not huge perceptual gain. A linearity plot showing the length of the straight portion of the gamma-corrected display should help compare display performance. Look at what the folks at Digital Photography Review do to compare cameras. Reply
TheRealAnalogkid - Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - link...and people look at me weird because I have a second Sony GDM-FW900 Monitor in the closet for after the one I'm using dies. I'll miss them when they're gone; maybe tech will make something comparable by then. Reply
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CSMR - Wednesday, October 02, 2013 - link1920x1200 on a 24" is low resolution. 24" tend to be this resolution and you can see all the very large pixels. I would not recommend 24" screens for profesisonal use until manufacturers start increasing the resolution. 1440p would be perfect on this screen size. Reply
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mrstonecold - Friday, October 04, 2013 - linkDoes anybody now if this screen uses an active cooling element (fan) like the new eizo screens cx240 and the cg246. I'm in the market to replace my primary screen (dell u2410) and I prefer a quiet work environment. Thx. Reply
foxalopex - Friday, October 04, 2013 - linkThe NEC-PA242W is absolutely silent, there is no fan. It doesn't even have a high pitched whine which is nice. The monitor is pretty thick partially for passive cooling I suspect as looking into the cooling vents at the top, you can see a massive airspace behind the actual panel hardware itself. Reply
Laststop311 - Sunday, October 06, 2013 - linkI guess this monitor is great for certain professionals. But for people like me that game and watch movies it really just stinks. Samsung makes an awesome 27" monitor with a bery nice contrast ratio with deep blacks and great detail I forget the model number but look for 27" 2560x1440 Samsung Reply
Laststop311 - Sunday, October 06, 2013 - linkI use a Dell u3014 because I found it on craigslist for 775 which i talked the guy down to 515 Reply
foxalopex - Monday, October 07, 2013 - linkFor most folks a ~$700 monitor will admittedly be more than enough for most uses. Some of us however really want a professional monitor for precision work. Reply
foxalopex - Monday, October 07, 2013 - linkIt's actually pretty good for watching movies as well. The lag isn't as bad as you think. Though yes, this isn't for a high end gamer. Reply


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Department of Accounting, Finance, and Economics
Faculty: Daryl Burckel, Stephen Caples, Musa Essayyad, William Galose, Bill Jens, Banamber Mishra, Mercy Palamuleni, Matiur Rahman, Michael Toerner, Olga Watts, Kay Zekany.
The Accounting, Finance, and Economics programs are designed to prepare graduates to meet the challenges from strong and growing global forces, conflicting values, changing technology, and demographic diversity among employees and customers. Graduates will be prepared to contribute to their organizations and society, grow personally and professionally, and pursue further graduate work. The geographic orientation of each degree program is national, with an international orientation and regional overtones. The primary emphasis of the Department's mission is quality teaching enhanced by scholarly productivity and application through service to the business and academic community.
The Department of Accounting, Finance, and Economics offers curricula leading to the following degrees:
- Bachelor of Science in Accounting
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The accounting curricula is designed to prepare students for the accounting profession. For the qualified person, accounting offers unlimited opportunities in business, industry, government, and public accounting. The profession requires a strong foundation in general education and business courses in addition to thorough training in accounting subjects. While each of the accounting curricula gives students all necessary courses to take the CPA exam, the accounting curriculum with Professional Accountancy/Exam Preparation concentration offers interested students a highly organized and specialized curriculum in preparation to become a professional in the field of accountancy. This curriculum directs students to specific courses advantageous in preparation for the CPA exam as well as other accounting-related professional examinations. The accounting curriculum with a concentration in taxation offers interested students a strong preparation in many diverse areas of personal and business taxations.
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A FORMER youth leader and councillor who lived a double life as a paedophile is behind bars for 12 years, after his sordid past caught up with him two decades on.
John Duffy, 51, groomed a besotted schoolgirl and had 'hundreds' of secret sex sessions with her from when she was just 12-years-old.
The sessions took place in a house, the youth club and his car. She fell pregnant twice by him, once when she was 15 which led to an abortion. Another pregnancy led to a miscarriage.
Duffy, of Skipton Road, Colne, a former pub chef, who had also worked at Stirk House at Gisburn, had recently been found guilty by a jury of 21 counts of indecent assault and one allegation of gross indecency, between 1989 and 1994.
He had originally faced eight charges of rape, 13 counts of indecent assault and the child indecency charge and had denied them all. He was cleared of the rape counts and eight of the indecent assaults he was convicted of were alternative allegations.
Judge Andrew Woolman told Duffy: "It is an aggravating feature that you were a youth leader, and to some extent, exploited that position."
The judge described the pregnancy termination as a 'really tragic event' in the complainant's life and said she was extremely upset about having an abortion.
He said: "She eventually told you and she says you were not bothered and were only interested in continuing the sexual relationship.
"Your conviction has been a shock to you. It's been a shock to many other people who genuinely believed that you were a good man. In many other respects you were a good man and did good works for the community and it was a cover to what was going on of a sexual nature underneath."
Burnley Crown Court heard that about 20 years ago, then married and with young children, he had started to throw himself into community life, was a local youth club leader and became well thought of.
The girl, whose life went completely off the rails because of his conduct, was left a heartbroken drunk and suicidal at his hands, a court was told.
Duffy, said to have spent all night with the girl when his then-wife was in hospital after having a baby, got the schoolgirl pregnant when she was 15. Her mother arranged for an abortion, after which the girl was distraught.
The hearing was told how the sessions came to an end after the girl later got pregnant again, had a miscarriage and Duffy seemed to lose interest in her. The teenager thought, at 16, she was getting too old for the defendant.
The defendant, who was running The Lunch Box takeaway and sandwich shop in Colne with his partner until he was remanded after the trial, was ordered to sign the sex offenders' register for life and was banned from working with children.
Duffy, a former parish councillor, had no previous convictions.
The court had been told how Duffy started his indecent behaviour towards the girl after befriending her when she was about 11.
Prosecutor Alison Mather said: "The defendant promised her the earth and abused her over a number of years."
Miss Mather said Duffy had told the girl they would get married and had shown her holiday brochures of where he said they would go.
Miss Mather said: "She listened to him and believed him and thought he loved her. She loved him and was completely infatuated with him."
The complainant, who is now in her thirties and from the Pendle area, went to the police in July last year.
Duffy was arrested and said her allegations were just not true. He had claimed: "She may have been 12 when she started on a sexual adventure, but it wasn't with me."
Jeremy Lasker, defending Duffy, said: "He's well known there and was well respected.He involved himself in many local activities. All that, effectively, has now been put to an end. "


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A MALE swan shot through the head with a crossbow is continuing to make good progress and will make a miraculous full recovery, the RSPCA says.
The bird is now allowed outside at his temporary home at the Stapeley Grange Wildlife Centre in Nantwich, which supports the rehabilitation of sick, injured, orphaned and confiscated wildlife
He had previously been kept inside to allow him to recover from the sickening injuries inflicted by two crossbow bolts.
Staff at the centre say he will be released back into the wild, but not at the same location for fear of a repeat attack.
It is not yet confirmed where the swan will be released.
He was in a critical condition after being shot with a crossbow in the Manchester Ship Canal at Moss Bank Road where it crosses with Tan House Lane in Penketh.
The incident happened on June 18.
RSPCA inspector Claire Fisher added: "This is a truly appalling act of cruelty against an innocent swan.
"One of the bolts had gone right through him, and the other was lodged in his skull. I actually have no clue how he is still alive."
The swan was given emergency treatment at Village Vets in Liverpool, with a pipe inserted into his lung so he could breathe. Permanent damage to his throat remains possible.
Cheshire Police is investigating the attack.
Anyone with information should call 101, quoting incident number 632 of June 18.
Information can also be left anonymously, via Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.


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SEOUL, Korea (Wednesday, June 19, 2002) - U.S. World Cup referee Brian Hall has been named as one of 32 match officials (16 referees and 16 assistant referees) that will work the final eight games of the 2002 World Cup.
After being named as one of the tournament's final 16 referees, Hall was not assigned to work in the quarterfinals, meaning that Hall will be involved in the semifinals, the third-place match or the World Cup Final. One referee works as the center referee and one works as the fourth official in each game.
Brian Hall has been involved in three group matches in Japan, refereeing two first round matches and serving as the fourth official in another. Hall refereed Italy-Ecuador on June 3, and then worked as the fourth official in the highly anticipated England-Argentina match on June 7. Hall was assigned a third match and worked as the center official in England's 1-0 win over Nigeria on June 12.
Hall, who is the first U.S.-born official ever selected to referee in the World Cup, has been a Major League Soccer referee since the league's inception in 1996. He reached the pinnacle of officiating world in 1992, when, at the age of 31, he was named to U.S. Soccer's International Panel of FIFA referees. As a FIFA Referee, Hall has traveled to 27 different countries to ply his trade.
Seventy-two officials were selected for the 2002 FIFA World Cup were chosen based on their performance ratings over the past few years. Those 72 referees were evaluated after their first and second round games, and 32 were selected to continue working the elimination phase of the tournament.
The 32 Referees Selected for the Final Eight Matches (16 referees and 16 assistant referees):
Ali Bujsaim (UAE), Coffi Codjia (BEN), Pierluigi Collina (ITA), Hugh Dallas (SCO), Anders Frisk (SWE), Gamal Ghandour (EGY), Brian Hall (USA), Saad Mane (KUW), Urs Meier (SUI), Markus Merk (GER), Felipe Ramos Rizo (MEX), Oscar Ruiz (COL), Mark Shield (AUS), Carlos Simon (BRA), Gilles Veissiere (FRA)
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Alexander Revisited: Final Cut is good. It's no Kingdom of Heaven but it's a good movie. The theatrical was painful.
I also liked Troy but haven't seen it since launch.
Bloated epics are amazing. Hopefully Noah and Exodus will bring back historical and religious epics.
Edit: actually you can remove Noah from that list. I started reading the script and it's basically:
...but even crazier. I thought Gladiator 2 was batshit insane but this is way, way more awesome.
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And God will be designed by H R Giger.
EDIT: Aren't all bible stories the same? I'm not even bothering with correcting that. That's what Ridley Scott would have done. No more Promises, Scotty.
It did feel a lot like a reboot to the series, which I heard while this was still in production and it obviously goes falls much closer to Pitch Black than Chronicles of Riddick, which as a sequel to I think they moved on from pretty sufficiently ("The guy with the fucked up face"). Plus points for standard-fare nasty dialogue and Riddick's game playing. Biggest minus point for [spoiler]no fucking "You're not afraid of the dark, are you?"[/spoiler]. WHAT THE FUCK, GUYS?!
If this is intended as full reboot with the plan of making more Riddick films, I'm still as invested to see where they take it next. Better than Chronicles, but not as good as Pitch Black, but still pretty darn good.
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I'm surprised at how much I liked the new Riddick.
I just saw Elysium.
That was essentially District 9 - The Neuromancer remix, with a dash of Johnny Mnemonic to further the Gibson influence a bit more. Neill Blomkamp has certainly got a certain favoured visual style. Overall I enjoyed it, to the point where I'm now going to have read the Sprawl Trilogy again because they could have renamed Elysium itself The Villa Straylight and I don't think I would have noticed the difference.
In other news, I just watched Enter the Dragon, and besides falling asleep several times in between Bruce Lee's guttural sounds, I found it extremely awful. The music didn't help. I think it's just bad.
Well, despite you all recommending every movie except Star Trek into Darkness, that was the only one available for me to watch.
I thought it was actually surprisingly good. I don't remember much about the first one, except it had good action, but some supremely dumb plot holes that rather bugged me. (though i don't now remember what they were).
This one seemed to have slightly less good action, but a better plot and no annoying plot holes.
I'm not a trekkie at all, but it seemed to do a reasonable job of both re-imagining the universe and also generally capturing the vibe of star trek. I rather liked the plot twists, and most of the references back to old trek. (and the nice reversals of some old trek plot points).
TBH i mainly watched it for Bennedict Cumberbatch... and it could have done with a little more of him and a little less squeezing old spock in for no reason.
I missed WWz. I might try Pacific Rim tomorrow if i can find it in English anywhere...
PS/ Enter the Dragon is one of the best movies ever made. If you didn't enjoy it then either your fun gland is broken, or you didn't have enough beer.
I think Into Darkness had less actual plot holes are more plot stupidities. There were a lot of things that are quickly brushed past, but when you think about for a second make you go "Waaaaait, what? That's pretty dumb." Two examples off the top of my head, one of which is two pronged.
1. Scotty infiltrating a super secret base with even more super secret starship inside and not being discovered by this super secret organisation, made worse by the fact that the Vengeance had a smaller crew so someone extra on board would surely be more noticeable.
2. The entire fight sequence above Earth. The flagship of the Federation, of Starfleet, is in a quite obviously helpless battle and no-one asks for assistance, nor does anyone realise that the flagship of the fleet is under a heavy beat-down and no-one sends any help. This is made even worse by the fact that there appear to be no defending starships in the system, especially around Earth, nor space stations or satellites or anything that pick up on this or relay what is going on. The fact that not just one, but two starships then free-fall (from the Moon...) into atmosphere and still nothing happens. You could just, just make a point that with the Vengeance it was falling too quickly, but then that no evacuation was done of the probable landing areas is hilarious. The Enterprise was falling slower though and for longer.
Oh, and then there's this one actually which is perhaps even more ridiculous:
3. This time-line now has super blood that can bring people back from the dead. Even Tribbles now can use non-Tribble blood to bring them back! The implications of this are utterly astounding.
I think Into Darkness moves so quickly a lot of its issues are jumped over, but I kept having niggling little issues crop up while I was watching it. It really hampered my enjoyment of it.
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I saw Elysium.
It was nice to look at, the story was decent even if the main character really wasn't up to all that much. While watching it though there were some very annoying plot holes. I'm not usually one for getting annoyed by them but for some reason this one did it for me.
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When John Carlyle gets attacked and shot on Earth, everyone in that command centre room on Elysium is automatically warned about his trouble and impending death should he not receive immediate medical attention. When Kruger stabs Delacourt in the neck however, nobody is alerted at all.
This may have happened in a different order, but while she's dying, Spider lands his ship on Elysium, before Kruger's men blow up the command centre. How did they get in with nobody even trying to send out a detention squad or take action against them? Maybe Kruger's guy blew them all up first.
The president of Elysium has ninjas. The ninjas do nothing. Honestly, why are there ninjas in this movie??"Halo is designed to make the player think "I look like that, I am macho sitting in my undies with my xbox""
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Unlike Prometheus, it worked for me.
It's a lot worse than the 2009 movie but it's a good way to waste two hours. It came out too late and the story did not move forward at all - the crew dynamics and challenges are basically the same. The movie I wanted to see after ST09 was the one that's hinted at the end of this one...
However it looks good, it's funny, the pacing is great, it has Peter Weller and the warp speed combat scene is really cool.
Recently watched Benoît Jacquot's Les adieux à la reine, based on the book by Chantal Thomas.
The film shows how in a period of a few days, starting on the infamous July 14th 1789, the world of lectrice Agathe-Sidonie Laborde (Léa Seydoux) falls apart around her. Frightened by the fall of the Bastille and the possibility that 'the people' will march on Versailles, many residents at the French court are making plans to leave; including Queen Marie Antoinette (Diane Kruger). King Louis XVI (Xavier Beauvois) has different plans, however, and the evacuation of the royal family is called off. Meanwhile, a pamphlet reaches the court in which the rioters in Paris demand the execution of the most hated members of the ruling elite. The list includes the Queen and her favourite, the Duchess Gabrielle de Polignac (Virginie Ledoyen). Against this background, Laborde tries to make sense of the situation and of her own feelings for the Queen.
All in all, an interesting perspective on a well known moment in European history. The supposed romantic feelings between some of the three leading women was fine as a story, but more interesting, at least to me, were the scenes on the night following the fall of the Bastille, when a sense of confusion and panic takes hold of the residents of Versailles. From the dark hallways of the servant's quarters to the private rooms of the Queen herself; nobody seems really sure what is happening and what the right way to proceed is. We're obviously watching this with the knowledge of what would happen to the main characters in the years following 1789, but by focussing on a person experiencing these historic moments from the sidelines, the fictional Agathe-Sidonie Laborde, the movie kept my interest throughout.
Recommended for people with an interest in (and some background knowledge of) the period, but I don't think it holds up quite as well if you're approaching it purely as a romantic drama.
The French trailer, as the English one contains heavy spoilers:
"He has anointed me to bring good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to
the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free". ~ Luke 4:18
I guess overall the first one seemed to be trying to be the anti-star-trek, whereas this one seemed to be trying to be an alternate-reality-star-trek.
Found Pacific Rim in english. It was also a very good action movie. (I have to say that all the summer blockbusters I saw this year have had stunning sfx and really good action sequences.). It did a great job setting up a load of big fights with minimal fuss, and was pretty exciting and fun to watch. Totally disposable though.
Overall, so far, I've found Man of Steel, ST Into Darkness and Pacific Rim to be pretty much of a muchness. Lots of amazing SFX, exciting action, but all slightly missing longevity or meaning. I guess that's to be expected in a summer blockbuster.
It may be me getting old, but I don't think any of them will stick with me the way some previous dumb action movies have (Terminator, Predator, etc..). We do seem to have reached a high point in terms of cgi and action direction, but I'm still more likely to want to watch Enter the Dragon in 20 years than any of these ones. As fun as they all were.
I may give Elysuim a shot, as it's opening here soon. But people make it sound like the same exact thing again.
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I think maybe I'm the exact right level of geek for the movie. I guess for people who didn't know old trek at all, the whole big twist and the references would have been meaningless. But maybe for big star trek fans they didn't work.
But for someone like me who is familar with trek, but not a trekkie, they worked pretty well. I at least felt like this movie was trying to be trek.
From my experience of Alias, I guess you might be right though. It will be interesting to see how his take on Star Wars comes across, as that's something i am (or once was) much much more geeky about.
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I think my main problem with JJ films at this point is his continued love affair with Simon Pegg who for me has firmly moved from amusing geek in spaced to becoming the UKs equivalent of Jack Black when it comes to gurning his way through movies. Guy is as unbearable as Gervais.
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That's one harsh comparison to make."Halo is designed to make the player think "I look like that, I am macho sitting in my undies with my xbox""
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BWW Photo Flash Exclusive: Meet the THE MYSTERY OF EDWIN DROOD's Music Hall Royale Actors - Opens Tonight!
Roundabout Theatre Company's Broadway production of The Mystery of Edwin Drood began previews on October 19th. The show opens tonight, November 13th, 2012 at Studio 54 on Broadway. In this show-within-a-show, audiences take a trip back in time to a Victorian music hall where a rowdy ensemble of actors mounts a staging of Charles Dickens's unfinished novel. Studio 54 has been decked out with large images of the Music Hall Royale actors in some of their most famous roles, and BroadwayWorld is excited to debut them below!
Set designer Anna Louizos chatted with us about the inspiration for the decor. She shared: "The idea came from Scott Ellis. One of the things he wanted to do from the very beginning was to make the audience's experience, from the minute they walked through the door at Studio 54, like they were walking into an English musical. It's not only the signage that we created when you walk in, but there's a sense that this is an established institution, and that the troupe of actors that you're about to see are known for their numerous roles from previous productions."
"Then it snowballed, because at first we were going to put people's faces on previous images of old actors from the turn of the century, but that just didn't work. So we set up a photo session. William [Ivey Long] got involved with the costumes, and there was also makeup and hair. It turned into a whole production. We couldn't go half-way. Then we selected the images and Rupert [Holmes] got involved. He got very excited because he got to create these fictitious names roles and plays. Rupert came up with all of that and we cropped and Photoshopped the images to convey the period."
On what's coming next, she added: "We have lots of ideas for what we'd like to do next. One of them is to set up a photo booth where people put their heads through an opening with a painted image. That way the audience can pose inside of the cutouts. That's next on our list of things to do!"
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Northwich Victoria v Nantwich Town (Kick off 3pm)
Evo-Stik Northern Premier League Premier Division
Venue Moss Rose, London Road, Macclesfield, Cheshire, SK11 7SP
Odds (bet365l) Northwich 4/5, Draw 12/5, Nantwich 14/5
Previous meeting Vics 1 Nantwich 2 (October 1 2011, FA Cup Second Qualifying Round)
Vics (from) Hinchliffe (GK), Collins, Disney, Kearney, Short, Smyth, Abbott, Armstrong, Ennis, Field, Fitzpatrick, Riley, Woolfe, Budrys, Clarke, Evans, Wade
Doubtful none
Injured Johnson (groin)
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Disciplinary (up to end February 2012) Y43 R4
Top scorer Wayne Riley (16)
Form (Past six home in league) L D D W W L
Record (Home) P15 W8 D4 L3 F24 A14 Pts28
Record (Overall) Pos2 P32 W20 D7 L5 F58 A31 Pts64 (Three points deducted)
Nantwich (from) Brain (GK), Bailey, Foster, Lowe, McDonald, Moss, White, Cooke, Flynn, Hughes, Jack, MacPherson, Maguire, Mitchell, Aspinwall, Everall, Lennon, Urwin
Doubtful Flynn (hamstring)
Injured none
Suspended none
Disciplinary (up to end of February 2012) Y51 R5
Top scorer Michael Lennon (19)
Form (Past six away in league) L D L D L W
Record (Away) P16 W4 D4 L8 F24 A33 Pts16
Record (Overall) Pos13 P33 W11 D10 L12 F49 A53 Pts43
Match Pointers
NORTHWICH hope to strengthen their hold on second spot in the Premier Division when Cheshire neighbours Nantwich visit Macclesfield tomorrow, Saturday.
By a quirk of the fixture list, it marks their first home league match since the last ever match played at the Victoria Stadium against Marine in January.
Vics have not won as hosts since December 17, a 2-1 win against FC United of Manchester.
Management team Martin Foyle and Alan Wright are likely to recall Chris Budrys, now recovered from a thigh injury, in attack but Jordan Johnson (groin) continues to convalesce.
Visitors Nantwich have beaten Northwich twice already this season, only losing to Vics in their past five meetings in a Cheshire FA Senior Cup tie.
However Jimmy Quinn's men have toiled on the road this term, winning only once away from the Weaver Stadium since September.
Former Northwich midfielder Chris Flynn (hamstring) has not played for a month, but loan pair Caspar Hughes and Andy White are likely to return after sitting out the Dabbers' midweek win at Moss Rose in the Cheshire FA Senior Cup.


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Flying Pig 5K and Marathon (May 4th and 5th)
Short Version
5k: 34:28
26.2: 5:35:32
Long Version
This spring I have been in more of a base building mode as I have only been running for 13 months and I think that I am supposed to be a marathoner. Recently my older sister who inspired me to start running asked me to run the Flying Pig Marathon with her. I have had decent mileage, but not real a marathon training plan. I had time to get in a 17 miler and a 19 miler before a short taper. I live in a flat area of Texas and I have one hill that isn't a real hill in town, so this wasn't good for a course that isn't flat.
I knew that this would be part of the thing that makes this race exciting. It was the first time that I was flying to a race and I was going alone. The nearest decent airport is Austin, TX, 2 ½ hours from my house, so I had to take Friday off of work in order to make sure that I could get to Cincinnati at a decent time on Friday evening after a short layover in Chicago. Plans didn't work out so well. I got to Austin about 9am for an 11am flight that didn't leave until 2:30. My Chicago flight kept getting bumped back for different reasons. After chillin for a while two young ladies (May and Alice) sat next to me and were chit chatting with each other. I heard them mention running so asked if they were going to run the Flying Pig also. After a while Alice said screw this do we just want to rent a car and drive to Cincinnati from Chicago. They asked me, a complete stranger to ride through a couple of states in order to get to a race. The girls had to get to Cincy as they planned on running a 10k (8am) and a 5k (10am) on Saturday morning. We ended up driving from Chicago through Indiana to Ohio and into Kentucky where my hotel was at. I personally wasn't too worried about being in a car with two strange ladies that were pretty small.
5K- I was given a free bib from May who had somehow gotten extra race bibs. She was registered as a 47 yr old and a 27 yr old. I am sure I broke some sort of race etiquette as I ran the 5k as a 27yr old lady. I placed 125 out of 354 in that age group, with a time of 34:28. The 5k was a good reason to run some in order to freshen up my legs again and I finished about where I wanted to. Here is a picture of me and my travel buddies.
Alice, T-Rod, May
The flying Pig Expo was set up well and organized. Were able to get some free goodies and packet pick up was super easy. My sister thought it was the best one she had been to (18th marathon). After the expo my sister and I grabbed a late lunch and then just hung out and napped some while waiting for the Kentucky Derby on TV.
Charmin station at the Expo Sister Mona, Barefoot Runner from Mexico, T-Rod
I had set myself up for either a great race or a blow up, and one of them happened. When I was originally asked what my goal was for the race there was three. 1- Finish, 2- Enjoy it, 3- 4:44x. The 4:44 time was based on McMillan off of a HM that I ran in January. I had a feeling that it wasn't going to happen and I wasn't going to stress about it.
Sunday AM- We are up by 4:45 to start getting ready we were in the elevator headed down to catch our shuttle to the race and I felt I was missing something. I thought maybe it was my headlamp as 90% of my running is done in the dark. We get in the van and are about 2 blocks away from our hotel and I say Oh shit I left my bib. So we had to jump out and walk back to the hotel to grab it. We finally end up at the race and find the school busses that are being used for bag check and then get over to our coral. There is music playing and a ton of great energy from the other runners. There were tons of porta potties and we stood in line for a while waiting to use them. We lost our 4:45 group and were ok with that. I was planning on running by feel anyways.
The first 5 miles or so were pretty much what I needed to do. My paces were not even, but I felt good and I wasn't doing anything crazy while we were dodging people.
Miles 6- 12 were not smart. I was feeling good but the inclines were not nice to me. I was feeling my quads some by mile 11 and new that it was going to be a long day. I think that this stretch while it felt great at the time ended up costing me big time.
Miles 13-20 I started to do some run walking as my legs were doing funny things to me. I had a cramp that was moving around and it was kind of funny. It would start in my quad then to my hamstring then to the other leg. I knew by about mile 14 that the 4:44 was out the window and that 5:00 would be in question.
Miles 21- 26.2
More cramping more good times and a couple of small Pabst Blue Ribbon Beers about mile 25. I was wanting a beer about mile 22, but it was worth the wait.
Thoughts on The Flying Pig:
Great support throughout the race. Tons of aid stations. Plenty of security – City Police, Sheriffs, Highway Patrolman. I felt very safe. Crowd support was good for most of the race. I would recommend this race to people. The town really seems to embrace the race and has fun with it.
Overall I was pleased with my 2nd marathon of the spring and 2nd career marathon. This race was neat since it was on the 1 year anniversary of my first race. I am 13 months from getting off of the couch and having a blast.
Post Race Photos
Thanks for reading.
"Failing to prepare is preparing to fail."
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right."
I'm glad you had fun with the race, even though it was much harder than you expected. Next time you'll know to train for the hills. That one at mile 7 looks like a killer. Good job finishing, despite the cramps.
I dont have any hills that, I will need to be creative to get hill work in, or limit myself to flat races
Tomas, congrats on #2! I hope to do my first in December. Is that your sis in the last pic? The travel with strangers was weird, but says something great about runners! So cool.
YAYpril - B-Plus
Congratulations on finishing another marathon! You really look fantastic. Keep up the great work.
Congrats on marathon #2. The smiles in the last picture say it all The elevation looks hairy!
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Looking good, T-rod!! Cramps are no fun, but you finished. More importantly, it looks and sounds like you had a great time.
Ball of Fury
Congrats on your 2nd marathon! The Pig is a tough course...nice job!
PRs: 5K 22:59, 10K 46:54,HM: 1:51:15
sister is in the last picture- she is wearing one of her magical Hope for the wariors shirts.
If I was the 2 Girls no way would I have let a strange guy hop in a car with me to drive. Both of them are from Los Angeles so maybe they felt like a Texas boy wasnt dangerous. I figured that their bags had made it through security so they couldnt have any real weapons.
That is a tough course for a TX guy. Great job!
More cowbell!
Congrats Tomas! Did you see the smart-aleck who's always out there at about mile 18 holding a sign that read "Why couldn't Phedippides have died here?"
Great job on running the Flying Pig!
- Andrew
I don't recall that one. That's funny though. My favorite was a play on the blues brothers. There was a series of signs the first one was its 7 miles to Cincinnati then one about cigarettes and gas. Then there was a group of blues brothers playing music.
Tomas, you definitely look more like a 27 year old woman than a 47 year old one. I've always said that you looked much younger than your age.
Wow! That was quite an adventure you had! Considering the hills, you did great. If you haven't trained specifically for them, the hills will kill your legs and the last miles become really tough. You hung in there like a champ! For a guy who's only been running a little over a year, you already have lots of experience, that's awesome really. Congratulations! And I laughed at the pic of you on the Charmin throne... Prince Charmin , and that pic of you and your sis is adorable!
PRs: Boston Marathon, 3:27, April 15th 2013
Cornwall Half-Marathon, 1:35, April 27th 2013
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Congrats on finishing and sharing your race report. That was quite the adventure just getting to the race! I love the pic of you and your sister after the race. Awesome smiles!
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To everyone who's having problems fitting a Beer-Can-Chicken in their grill, here is an alternative.
You can cook the chicken horizontally instead of vertically. This is how it's done:
Place the chicken on it's back with the breast side up. Get a small can that's usually used for "fruit cup" or tomato sauce. Remove all labels from the can and wash it well. Fill the can with your favorite liquid and insert it inside the chicken cavity (make sure you place the chicken on the grate prior to doing this). Close the chicken cavity with half of lemon, onion or potato. Follow the same recipe and the remaining instructions for cooking BCC. You can also use a small tuna can or a mini disposable foil pie pan to do this, but they're not as deep and they might be too wide (depending on how big the chicken is). The end product should be the same as any BCC. This way you don't need as deep of a grill, yet you're getting the same moist and tasty chicken.
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EXACTLY Jj2345. Apple is so on to the Jailbreak community and is frantically trying to find the hole. Either way they cant touch us on 6.0.2. I just can't believe they are this much against jailbreaking. Bunch of Commies.
The only feature we really care about.Apple has Saturday evening released iOS 6.1 Beta 5 to developers for testing. The fifth beta of the future iOS 6 update includes redesigned iPod controls to the lock screen, the ability to purchase movie tickets through Fandango using Siri, and several security enhancements. iOS 6.1 Beta 5 is for the iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad.
MuscleNerd just retweeted this from @winocm:
Interesting.Looks like iOS 6.1b5 isn't a beta, it activates without developer registration and has no ReleaseType lockdown keys.
If they are releasing a new iPad in March with 6.1 the time line says they needed a beta 5. @i0n1c did tweet : Interesting thing about the iOS 6.1 Beta 5 release is that it has the build ID of a final, not that of a beta. Although, If the devs say the future of jail breaking is looking bright I think they have a ace up their sleeve.
But commies sounds worse...
I was afraid of the comments the, "Dream Team" made about wanting iOS 6.1 to be released. I really hope Apple didn't catch on and made some changes with their latest BETA release....It's always good to hear news from the Dream Team, but I hope it doesn't end up ruining the holes they found.


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HTPC 4-Way Roundupby Joshua Buss on 11/22/2005 12:00 AM EST
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warped6 - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkI purchased one of these back in the late spring. I too tried putting the DVD in the bottom position and it didn't fit. I then found out that it wasn't meant to hold an optical drive. It's meant to hold a VFD display so you can have the extra little door open to see the display. You can see this on there web site.Unless there is a short optical drive that I haven't found yet.
I also replaced all of the fans with quieter ones. That helped quite a bit as far as noise.
I've been very happy with the box, now if I could just get the software to work the way I want it too and so the wife can deal with it, I could move it into the living room. :-) Reply
bearxor - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkI know a lot of people are complaining because you reviewed some fairly low-end HTPC cases, but these are all in the price range that I'm looking at, which is 90-130. I was settled on a Cooler Master case, but after reading what you guys wrote about the Tenor, I might just go with it. I had decided against it because of the blue LED lights, but like you said, I could just disconnect them.
Not all of us are willing to spend 200-300 dollars on just a case for our HTPC, this review was for us. Reply
bschuler2004 - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkI still contend the best HTPC is a HTPC out of sight controlled via RF remote. Why even have a pc in the living room? Your cable company doesn't put it's Video On Demand servers in your living room.. why would you? It just doesn't make sense. Plus, then you can use any case, can be as loud as you want.. cuz nothing in the living room is as quiet as an Svideo,Rca, etc cable.. You save money, space, and alot of headaches. Reply
BigLan - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkI agree, to a point. My HTPC is a generic mid-tower which has similar dimensions to my sub. It doesn't really look too out of place except fot the blue LED in the power supply.
I've been thinking more and more that the ideal setup would be a non-descript PC box on the floor or hidden, with an external usb DVD drive (or two) and the remote control receiver placed near the amp/receiver.
Most of the current htpc cases seem to appeal to the bling factor, which I learned the hard way meant loud fans and inadequate cooling. Reply
PDubya - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkOn page 5, the "removable cap" looks to be recessed, so I'm guessing you could place some filtration medium in that capped area. Just my two cents. Reply
Tamale - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkbut that's the exhaust.. I'm still not sure what good putting a filter on the exhaust side of the power supply would do... Reply
bldckstark - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkI agree that putting a filter on the exhaust side would be useless, but the cover is there for some reason. I have several machines here at work that have covers very similar to this that are used for air intake filters. Was the PSU checked for air flow direction? Maybe they reversed it in this application. Reply
bldckstark - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkThe users manual states in the cooling section that you should not "block the air intake vents on the top panel, the front left side (at the filter) or the back (ventilated PCI slot covers." They are calling it an intake. This is the EC manual, not the US version. They are quite different, and there is no mention of the cover in the US version.
http://www.antec.com/us/support_productInfo_detail...">EC users manual in English - pdf
Check page 6 under "Important Notes On Cooling" Reply
UrQuan3 - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkI understand that this review is geared more towards gaming rigs in the livingroom than for video recording/playback machines, still I'd like to know about some of those systems as well. I've been looking at picking up either an ATX P4 or a mini-ITX Pentium M machine from http://www.hushtechnologies.net/">Hush. Just wondering if anyone has tried one. Reply
OrSin - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - link500 is the low end of those case. They you pay extra for stuff like a reset buttom.
Crazy over priced. I could see going as high $ or even alittle more if you want the front display, but $500+ ?. I guess if I spent $10,000 on Theathe systems it would not too bad. But $500 you could just hide a regular systems in the wall or something. Reply
BigandSlimey - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkThese guys http://www.atechfabrication.com/products/HTPC_case...">http://www.atechfabrication.com/products/HTPC_case... have been designing their cases in conjunction with the HTPC guru's at avsforum. I'd suggest anyone planning to build a HTPC to go to http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=...">http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=... and do some reading, there's a lot to consider.
I'm also surprised at your omission of the Ahanix cases http://www.ahanix.com/ahanix_product_list.asp?cid=...">http://www.ahanix.com/ahanix_product_list.asp?cid=... which IMO look a lot better than any of the options on your article.
See also: http://www.origenae.com/products_htpc.htm">http://www.origenae.com/products_htpc.htm
ceefka - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkThose Origenae look very nice. I meant the X15 in my earlier comment. This one will cost around 500 bucks. Expensive, but very pretty. Reply
lukecon - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkAll well and good on the review love AnandTech's review but I think you guys forgot something - The TV tuner in your system - I mean it is a Home Theater PC.
Tamale - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkThe tuner shouldn't really pose any additional problems with a particular case, and the 6600GT we use gets as hot or even hotter than most video cards with built-in tuners.
Perhaps the cooling in an HTPC would be changed dramatically though if another expansion card is also in the system.. hmm.. I'll have to think about that one. Thanks for the comment. Reply
BigLan - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkActually, tuners can get pretty toasty, maybe not as hot as a video card, but they don't have active cooling on them. An MCE-500 dual tuner stuck in the last slot with no airflow could be a problem.
If you are adding a soundcard as well, it can also impede airflow which exacerbates the problem. Reply
tkr2099 - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkVery nice review! I'm planning on building a HTPC this holiday season, so this review could not have come at a better time. Thank you, Anandtech, for another extremely well written and helpful review! Reply
tayhimself - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkIMO Silverstone especially and less so Ahanix are specialized HTPC vendors. Either you didnt know this, didnt bother to do research, or didnt get a free sample from them. None of which is a terribly good thing.
AFAIK no 3R systems cases have been available in North America since about 3 years ago when newegg carried a few. Theyre a Korean manufacturer of quality cases that are quite popular in Australia (I'm in Canada FYI).
Also, why the POS power supply along with the lousy thermaltake heatsink with a hot P4 system? Not too many people are building HTPCs with P4s, and they tend to use better components than Mad Dog and ThermalTake (no offense to the *bling* obsessed).
The measurements dont jive with the subjective measurements as a 9 dB difference between the loudest and quietest is almost twice as loud.
A poor review, that doesnt belong on AT. I could probably write a better review and I've never done one before. Reply
MPE - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkI could probably write a better review and I've never done one before.
Cop out - not to mention inconsequential, immature, ad hominem, and probably false.
tayhimself - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkad hominem? Go to http://dictionary.com">dictionary.com Reply
ceefka - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkIsn't that just perfect? If you can get these temperature numbers with P4, you know that a 90nm s939 is going to do just fine.
There are so many cases to chose from. Even with built in LCD screens (not cheap btw). Maybe AT can inlcude HTPC's in their entry/mid-range/high-end reviews and builds. On the other hand, this could be a totally different category by itself. You'd also have the opportunity to chose platform.
This brings forth the next question: How long before Apple makes a Home-Pod, HTPC based on Mac ingrediënts. They should be able to make/develop one by now. Reply
Tamale - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkThe 'POS' power supply happens to deliver steadier voltages to the highest-end gear I've gotten my hands on (and no, the P4 test bed isn't the most powerful thing I've tested it in) than anything else that's passed through my hands, and that includes over a dozen power supplies by high-end manufacturers. I'm no reviewer of power supplies yet, as we're still working on that, but I guarantee you that this is a fine unit, especially for the area of case reviews, because in quiet mode it does a fantastic job of staying silent enough to hear the case fans and still provides rock-solid voltages to a stressed-out system. It also gets warm when in quiet mode in the cases that don't ventilate the power supply well enough, which is another good measure of a case. Perhaps most important however is the modular nature of the unit, and even though I've tried other modular units none were as quiet as the MadDog.
Secondly, the thermaltake golden orb II at full voltage is quieter than any of zalman's coolers at full voltage. While I understand that the zalman will probably get lower temperatures, It is absolutely essential that the CPU cooler in my test bed make as little noise as possible, and the golden orb II does just that.
The recurring theme in your post seems to me to be that you want 'the perfect HTPC', but the whole idea of a case review is to isolate everything but the case as much as possible, and sometimes hotter components do a better job of illustrating the deficiencies of units than the latest and greatest.
Trust me on this one, if we used the absolute best gear available the comparisons would be much muddier.
As for the subjective comment, my scale of 1-10 can be thought of as a scale of tolerance.. with 5 basically being the threshold... anything higher than that really is 'too loud for the given application' and anything lower than 4 is 'acceptable'. It's not meant to be a numerically accurate scale of any sort. I felt very comfortable with the final subject ratings I gave these cases, because the Tenor and PC-800B just barely passed my personal threshold test, and I believe most users will agree.
tayhimself - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkI hope you realize other PSUs are likely quieter and more efficient than "Mad Dog". Sure the may be quiet to your ears, but thats too subjective to really mean anything. Sadly, you rate the modular nature as being an important issue when it is not. The PSU getting warm in quiet mode may be a sign of a PSU not getting enough airflow.
And you say "its silent enough to hear case fans". While that can be true, the PSU and Tt golden orb noise signatures can drown out subtler differences between the cases in terms of noise of the case fans. This is almost obvious from your review as you dont perceive the difference of 9 dB to be significant. Its better to use quality quiet components so you can tell what the case is contributing to the noise spectrum. Since this is about making case buying decisions, the other factors are best isolated.
Avalon - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkGet crackin'. Reply
mrgq912 - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkto tired to read the article but first post.
mrgq912 - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkokay now that I have that out of my system. How come you guys never review stuff from alienware or voodoopc. Those guys make HTPC's aswell. I never every heard of the players in this review making HTPC's untill today. Well nice to know i have options.
Would buy one if i could, untill then i will live with my ati tv wonder elite.
ksherman - Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - linkuh, cuz Alienware and Voodoo are over priced peices of DooDoo... and because this site is more geared around people that build their own machines... Reply


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Friday Five, 11/17/06
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text:
The built up urges most girls and some d00dz get to become attention whores, specifically in the context of harvesting compliments from the opposite sex. This behavior includes casual flirting, dressing a little more "risky" than par usual and out right flaunting and showing off in large groups of people. Usually a sign of insecurity, this behavior does not necessarily end in a blumpkin or a walk of shame as it is usually just a careless way to build up self confidence and feel sexy.
The girls have been busy with school and work all week, something tells me they will be getting attention horny to go out to the clubs and get noticed by men.
by wheelzr May 30, 2008
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