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FAST 2GB DDR Kits - Part 2by Wesley Fink on 1/23/2006 12:05 AM EST
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DonPMitchell - Monday, March 06, 2006 - linkI'm surprised there was no discussion of single-rank vs. dual-rank memory. For the Athlon, that's a big issue, becuase its memory controller may down-clock beyond 4 ranks of memory.
nyogen - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - linkI remember when Nvidia released their 6xxx series there was an all out boycott of paper launches.
OCZ and Mushkin released not very long ago their 2GB dual channel high end kits namely:
Apart from these parts not having been available, the new batch that carries only the name given by reviews are flagged by poor performance, different IC's from the original batch, and lots of glitches.
I am sure Corsair and all the other manufacturers are doing the same, paper launch, hard launch cherry picked and then selling out to unsuspecting customers a COMPLETELY different product, backed by reputable reviews.
Don't you feel like they have been using you and used your reputation and popularity in order to commit something very close to fraud ???
If you encourage us to buy these products then you have the responsability to follow up on the products life and batches so that once they try to do this again you will be there to sanction this and PROTECT US. Otherwise your reviews become fairy tales and the only ones that have the reviewed products are you and a couple of people in the world.
GO FOR THEM ! END THIS UNFAIR PRACTICE ! Reply
Overlag - Monday, February 06, 2006 - linkCrucial have infact stopped making there 1gig DDRI sticks due to the massive fail rate on there high end products.
i have had 6x 512mb failures and 4x 1gig failures. While there customer services is the best of ANY online company ive dealt with, there high end products are really bad quality now.... the ram overheats, then after a few months wont run at 1t, then it starts making noises while you access it, before finaly degrading over a month from 2-2-2-6 settings down to 3-4-4-10 untill failing totaly.
This includes chips (my latest two) which ive been using at 2.7volts ONLY, and with active cooling, yet they are still hotter than my X2 4400 at 4800 speeds...Last week they run fine at 2-2-2-7 1t, now they are at 3-3-3-8 2t :(
... Why there high end products have problems i dont know, there normal or value ram runs fine for YEARS and YEARS.
Very disapointed with it all apart from the customer services. However even that has started to disapoint me, as they refused to RMA/refund me for my 2x 512mb pair... Reply
leexgx - Monday, February 06, 2006 - linki had no problems getting my ram RMAed and replaced (2 days ago 2 day turn around UK) never had something replaced so fast before :)
you can still buy it from here (UK tho)
on an other note it is an consern to me as well i have never used ram that can heat my room (needs active cooling) like others have posted it does run hot if not cooled i cant seem to get to 2-2-2-7 T1 my asus a8n-sli prem does an anoying thing by auto setting it to 4 5 5 12 {fail safe maybe?}(when i open A64 tweeker as it shows the info) then the nvidia Sound or nvidia video tray Icon crashs the system with an nice BSOD, (works fine tho at 3-3-3-7 T1 @ ddr500 2.7v or ddr speed lower but just run it at ddr400 ish now)
an but realy any way good OCZ or just standered TwinMoss ram is realy real world 2-4% performance dif (Amd64 On chip ram contorler removes the bottle neck that was on the Older k7 chips i go for lower timeings over more bandwith)
realy should have an look at DFI streets Forums on the matter of ddr1 Ocing (AMD overclocking) http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f...">http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f...
(other note i think my ram was partly dead when i got it just put up with it untill me pc did not boot any more ) Reply
Overlag - Thursday, February 09, 2006 - linki wouldnt want to buy ballistix ever again... Once this set finaly gives up the ghost i will ask for a full refund and get some real memory. Reply
XeCutor - Thursday, February 02, 2006 - linkMy first pair failed memtest at 250mhz, seemed stable at 247mhz. My second pair does 250mhz but not much more. Fails at 255mhz. All this is on a DFI Expert board with an opteron 165 3-4-4-8 1T timings at 2,6-2,8v. Voltage doesn't seem to matter att all to these sticks, they fail at the same speeds regardless for me. Reply
bupkus - Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - linkI went for the Twinx2048-3200c2pt because of the lower timings and $197 AMIR price. I haven't researched this much lately, but I recall PC3200 with tight timings getting the nod from the enthusiast community for the Athlon 64.
The TWINX2048-4000PT that I faced it off to lists timings of 3-4-4-8 which I thought wasn't preferable to the tighter timings especially with a price of $233.
The OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K is going for the same price of about $200 but the OCZ5001024EBPE only appears on newegg as a single 1GB module for $153.44 + $4.81 shipping.
That's too rich for my blood.
I guess the question for me would be which is the best for $200 +- $20? Reply
Visual - Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - linkBesides the TWINX kit, corsair offers single 1GB modules too - again marked as 4000PT
The price for the kits for some reason seems higher than two separate modules.
So my question is, are the separate modules the same thing as what's in the kits? Why don't you mention them at all, and either recommend them for better value over the overpriced kits, or, if they dont perform as well, warn users about them? Reply
Googer - Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - linkI would have liked to have seen four 512MB modules shown in the graphs as a refrence of how much or how little there is to gain by using these pairs of 1GB modules. By doing this I could form a cost/benefit analasys. Reply
bersl2 - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkI'm going to wait to see if the price on DDR1 falls again before AMD goes DDR2. If it does, I'll get 2 x 1GiB to replace the 4 x 512MiB I bought over a year ago, but haven't been able to use until just now. Reply
JarredWalton - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkI don't anticipate DDR1 prices changing much, and once AM2 comes out I expect prices to start climbing as DDR1 productions halts. DDR1 prices seem to have hit bottom about 6 months ago, and they're already starting to rise - at least on the budget parts. Reply
Thor86 - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkDid I miss this in the review? If not, it would help if you told us what memory settings used in the DFI bios for these sticks reviewed. Reply
Wesley Fink - Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - linkI used the 7/06 BIOS, which is basically the Bigtoe BIOS. I have found this BIOS to be remarkably compatible with a wide range of memory. All memory settings were left at default except the 4 reported memory timings (CAS to TRAS) and memory voltage in testing all the memory. We did not do any special tweaking, which is another reason we reran tests with the 3 2GB kits tested earlier. You can definitely achieve better bandwidth and higher scores than we did by tweaking memory in the DFI BIOS. Reply
keldog7 - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkI was surprised to find your review stating the Corsair 3500LL could only reach 492 MHz...especially when out of the box, I clocked mine to 500 MHz. This required no special tweaking of the other timings, other than what's listed below. Any careful research on this memory, using the many online reviews of it, show that the RAM runs fine (at slightly relaxed timings), well into 500Mhz territory, and beyond.
In my case, I've got it on an A8N32SLI, at 2.7V, running 2.5-3-2-7 1T with a 1:1 divider at 250Mhz. In my case, this has been verfied to be Memtest86+ stable for at least 12 hours (last run was 90 hours...then I had to stop it to actually get some work done!)
I wonder if the motherboard used in your review has biased your overclocking results? Reply
Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkAccording to my review notes, the Corsair 3500LL Pro cloked to almost 260 (DDR520) on Super Pi and Sandra memory tests, but the highest we could do with stability on 3D tests was 246 (DDR492). There is always varaition in memory results.
Since you criticize my results as being too low for your memory and another reader criticized my results as being too high for his memory, it is likely my results are typical of the range of results readers might achieve. Some will do better than my results and some will do worse. Overclocking results do vary among memory samples. Reply
wildstaroct - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkUnless Anandtech got really good batches of Infineon ICs, I don't buy the analysis. There have been numerous reports of 3D instability issues...I've experienced them myself with the Redlines. They are primex2 and memtest stable at fairly high speeds (270) but only 3D stable near spec (250ish). Reply
entrecote - Friday, January 27, 2006 - linkNeither do i buy it.
I invested in a pair of the mentioned 2GB Mushkin Redline PC4000 memory. I´ve stubbornly been trying to tweak them on my DFI Lanparty + X2 Toledo processor for two months. This Redline kit of mine refuses to surpass 252MHz / DDR504. One module does 256MHz / DDR512, the other one does 252MHz / DDR504 regardless of timings. Trust me, I´ve tried all combinations of different drive strenghts, Trefs and so on. My case is not isolated, I have the same symptoms as the perhaps majority of 2x1GB Redline owners, "3D instability".
My thoughts on the matter is that Mushkin was aware of this bad batch of theirs, possibly due to quality fluctuations of infineon modules. Then they quickly began to separate a few review samples for marketing puposes. I went through the same dissapointment one year ago when buying PC3200 Ballistixs after quickly reading through among other reviews anadtechs infamous "Ballistix cherry pick" DDR roundup.
I put great trust in anandtech, please do me a favor in the future to only review retail samples of memory. Some of these mentioned brands purposefully send special samples to rewievers.
Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkWe reported what we found, and 3D tests are part of our benchmarking. The OCZ for example was Super Pi and memtest stable to 290, but 3D dropped the stability to 275 (DDR550) which we reported. The Redline went well over 300 on memtest and Super Pi, but 293 (DDR586) was our highest 3D stable.
What memory controller revision are you using with the Infineons? Our tests are with a Rev. E, and we have seen lower performance on the older clawhammer memory controllers with the 1GB dimms. Reply
wildstaroct - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkI have a rev E6 Opteron 170. Perhaps I just got an unlucky set of sticks, but the forums are loaded w/ people with similar issues, particularly around 3D. Reply
Duonger - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkthe mushkin parts have been back in stock for over a week now and is available (if not sold out already) on Newegg and on Mushkin`s Site.
Wes- the ocz parts u compared. those are 2x512mb kits. why did u include it on this 2gig round up? Reply
bigtoe36 - Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - linkTom
The parts are 2x1204, we don't supply single sided CE5 512 kits, infact no one does.
For the record, 4000eb is 2048mb so 2x1024mb modules. Reply
Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkThe OCZ we tested is definitely a 2GB kit. I changed the Corsair name in the review since they refer to 2GB kits as TwinX 2048. However I just double-checked their web site and OCZ uses the 1024 to describe the dimm size. In fairness they are officially a 2x1024 kit, so I will update the reference to hopefully clarify what we tested.
The memory manufacturers all have pretty awful naming schemes for their memory, but OCZ is still one of the most confusing. Reply
CCUABIDExORxDIE - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkhow does crucial not get gold? honestly, go out and try to buy the EB 4000 or the Redline PC4000, you cant cause of Infenions horrible yeilds. so in your mindset, the gold winner should be the UCCC corsair stuff. also where is the Gskill pc4000 and the Mushkin pc4000?? There should have been more UCCC tested and less CE-6.
just my opinion though. Reply
Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkYou can not presently buy Crucial any where, and Crucial told us they would not likely have the product available again. Infineon has had problems with consistency since October, but all of the memory manufacturers here assured us the Infineon-based dimms were current products and supply would continue. Some even sent links on where you could buy the Infineon dimms.
We asked manufacturers to submit their "best" 2GB kit. There was nothing to stop them from submitting both Infineon CE and Samsung UCCC for the roundup. As we found in the review Samsung UCCC is not as fast as Infineon at most speeds, but it does overclock just as well, and it's generally 30% to 40% cheaper. At present Samsung UCCC chips are easier to find, but manufacturers tell us recent Infineon is finally producing better yields - and chips are becoming available again. Reply
CCUABIDExORxDIE - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkalright...what about this? http://www.chiefvalue.com/app/productdetails.asp?s...">http://www.chiefvalue.com/app/productde....asp?sub... aww a bit of misinformation? thats right Reply
ozzimark - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkwhile we're mentioning misinformation.. it was stated that teamgroup can be had at newegg? atm, i'll have to disagree.
second.. micron chips don't go to just crucial. i have a set of 2x1gb teamgroup in my hands that i need do a review on that use micron chips, and they easily hit 280mhz on a DFI that appears to be having serious VTT stability issues :P Reply
Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkWe checked with Newegg and Team is not available there. We have removed that comment from the review and asked Team where buyers can buy their memory in the US. We'll post the info when we get an answer. Reply
cool - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link@Wesley:
On the "Test Configuration" page, I noticed that you're using the following nForce drivers: "NVIDIA nForce Platform Driver 6.86"
When will they be released and do they solve the PATA/SATA and nvFirewall issues that are still plaguing nForce4 users? Reply
Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkI apologize for the typo. We used the latest release 6.70 on our DFI nF4 SLI. The latest release for AMD X16 is 6.82, and we listed a beta x16 driver rev we had on an x16 machine used for editing.
The platform driver version has been corrected in the article. Reply
PrinceGaz - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkHopefully one day, the nVidia softtware team will pay some attention to its chipset drivers and get these issues with the PATA/SATA drivers, which in v6.70 still have issues on my nForce4 mobo, albeit not so badly as some earlier drivers, but are still unreliable enough for me to revert to the default Windows ones.
As for the hardware firewall; I'm not even going to consider installing the drivers and software for that given the continued reports it has of causing serious problems. I'd rather let my dual-core processor do the work on one of its cores, which as I use Kerio Personal Firewall would hardly be noticed even in a multi-threaded app as it takes very little CPU time.
Given the mess nVidia have made of the nForce chipset drivers, and how Microsoft recommend ATI graphics-cards for the Vista betas as their drivers are better; I really do wonder if nVidia who built a good reputation for themselves with rock-solid graphics-card drivers a few years ago have lost the plot. I bought an nForce4 mobo and 6800GT last year, but am increasingly thinking an ATI graphics-card would have been a better choice, and if similarly feature-rich mobos with other chipsets were available then, that any of ATI, VIA, SiS would have been a better choice than nVidia.
It's sites like this that have over-hyped nVidia mobos since the nForce2 on performance alone that I'm sure contributed to their dominance, and the sorry state of afares we are in with their chipset drivers as there is little competition and can afford to give it low priority. Reply
PrinceGaz - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link"... 2GB also makes sense for the OS future. With Vista coming and 2GB, the new memory recommendation for the new OS, you will be set for Vista."
I was under the impression that the minimum is expected to be 512MB, and that 1GB will be recommended for good responsiveness under normal use. Having said that, I would personally choose 2GB for any new system as pairs of 1GB DDR (and of course DDR2) modules are now readily available and competitively priced. Unfortunately most big-name OEM systems are still shipping with either 512MB, or if you're lucky 1GB. Reply
bigtoe36 - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkBeing honest we have had some supply issues, and some issues regarding supply that are out of our control. We do have stock and will have more real soon.
ocztony Reply
bigtoe36 - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkThis was to counter any moans about availability before they were posted. Reply
emilyek - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkYou guys tested the worst GSKILL kit.
Their pc4000 2 gig kit (speed-binned version of that kit) is the same price as the 2-3-2-5 chip ($200) and will do DDR580
Their $250 kit 2-3-2-5 would contend with the Mushkin and the Crucial at a much lower cost. Reply
Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkThe Silver Editors Choice Corsair 4000PT, and the OCZ PC4000 Gold and PC4000GX XTC, also based on UCCC chips, are all in the $205 to $230 price range for the 2GB kit from e-tailers. So $250 for a UCCC kit seems in line but hardly a bargain.
As for testing the worst G. Skill, we asked all the memory manufacturers to supply their "best" 2GB kit for our roundup. The manufacturers decided what to supply, and we expect Enthusiast memory makers to know what is best in their line. Reply
irev210 - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkThe crucial memory is amazing memory.
I was able to get it stable at 3-3-3-8 @ 300mhz, but you really need to spend some time on the settings, it is VERY picky memory. Both tras and drive strength play huge factory in memory stability.
Yes, it is suspected that due to really high RMA they discontinued, however what anandtech doesnt report is what actually happens to the memory.
Even at 2.8vcore or less PLUS active cooling, 1 2 or 3 months down the line your memory will just start dying.
Thinks like memtest86 will check out fine, but then while gaming, your rig will just lock up. Random bluescreens, random lockups...
There is a big story to these ballistix, it is too bad they simply have a HUGE rate of failure. Do a ddr2 roundup, then you will see how many people use micron fatbodies for their high performance ddr2 memory. You dont see that with the high density memory, and obviously i suspect due to stability issues.
My advice for memory is the g.skill F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ based on samsung ram, it has been doing well, and g.skill has awesome customer service.
I personally am going to wait for ddr2 before going with 1gb sticks, then ballistix 2gb set is on my list. But that is just me. Reply
Bull Dog - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkI'm another Ballistix memory user here. I ran mine at 2.75v the whole time and they just died after a while. Screw you Crucial/Micron. I will NEVER buy your products AGAIN. (I don't care if they have zero problems eitehr. Reply
gooser - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkNow what about the tracers?? I just purchased the 2 GB tracers last week knowing about the issues with the regular ballistix after a couple of months. I have read that the tracers use a higher quality power modulator, thus dont have the same problem. Anyone? Reply
lopri - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkLots of work and outstanding comments. Thanks. This review, along with the Part I, is significant in that it puts an end to the 1GB system memory standard. It's declaring that an *era* of 2GB system memory is finally here.
However, with these super high-clocking 1G sticks (512MB sticks also for that matter), there is one *realer* question that's haunting my mind. With the current crop of DDR memory reaching speed of DDR550~DDR600, one has to wonder - What's the good if CPUs can't handle the speed of memory?
Yes, I'm questioning the capability of A64/Opteron's memory controller. Because even the best current AMD CPUs often fail to keep up with the speed of memory. You've got a PC4800 DDR memory? Good luck, pray your CPU can run it at that speed. This issue is, at least for me, very real. I just don't see the point of high-clocking memory when the truth is CPUs' memory controllers are the limit. (And to some extent motherboards, of course)
In the light of this, would it be possible for you to test the quality of each revision of AMD CPUs' memory controllers? Preferably with recent cores - namely, Venice, San Diego, Toledo, Manchester and their Opteron equivalents. The more detailed, the better. Rev E3, E6, E4, and even the steppings.
While reading this excellent review, I couldn't shake the issue of memory controller off my head. These days a stick of RAM seems only as good as the CPU's memory controller it relies on. Unless one is just happy to see her/his RAM passing memtest @DDR600 all day long.
Again, thanks for your hard work on this review, Wesley. However, I'd really like to hear from you about the issue that I'm bringing here. I'd much appreciate it.
dlerious - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkIf my CPU can't keep up with my RAM, I just drop the multiplier (and/or divider) down until I find the point where both run as high as possible at the voltage and temps I'm comfortable with.
Beenthere - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkCrucial use to be a pretty good memory supplier at one time and I've bought plenty of their products. There seems to have been a philosophical change at Crucial a number of years ago and I stopped buying and recommending their products after a major hassle over one failed DIMM out of the many we had purchased. Seems like their submission of a discontinued product to this 1 Gb review is another example of mis-management and manipulation of the media...
In regards to 1 Gig. DIMMS vs. 512 Mb it seems to me relatively few people really need these DIMMS. If you are a serious gamer playing the latest game versions, sure you'll see some small performance improvement for a PRICE. And that is the point really - what do you get in tangible system performance gain and is it of enough emotional value to you to pay the premium price. Obviously for some it is as they will pay $1000 for a CPU, $700 x 2 for 7800 GTX 512 Vid cards, etc. I doubt however that most PC enthusiasts can really justify those prices nor the price premium for 1 Gb DIMMS based on system performance gains.
And along those lines... how often do PC enthusiasts and / or gamers replace their entire PC hardware??? If for instance you are building a new PC now because the Opti 165 / X2 3800+ are a sweet deal, would you really be in the market for a new AMD AM2 system in a 4-6 months when they are readily available??? I doubt many folks replace their hardware that often but I could be wrong. If it is true then I wonder where all the good hardware ends up after it's used for a couple months and then trashed for the latest trick-of-the-week hardware??? Reply
xsilver - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkits called ebay - or as some say "egay" :p
or I think option 2 is the not so rich friends who suck up a lot
option 3 is "damn, I overvolted the cpu to attain max overclock and the damn thing fried itself -- oh well, just buy another fx-60"
note that option 3 people probably fuel the reason for why manufacturers think they can charge us $500+ for a gfx card and $1000+ for a cpu Reply
JarredWalton - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkWorth note - and not shown in the benches here - is that 2GB of RAM can have a massive impact on load times for some of the latest games. It is also incredibly useful when you're editing a bunch of images in Photoshop. The difference in level load times on BF2 is amazing, even when comparing 4x512MB 2T to 2x512MB 1T.
BF2 is something of an exception right now, but over the next year I expect more and more games to push the memory requirements beyond 1GB. FEAR is another reasonable example, though not quite as pronounced as BF2. Some of the MMORPGs also get a lot of use from 2GB.
Personally, I won't be buying 512MB DIMMs anymore, but I still use them in systems I build for other people. Reply
johnford64 - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkWhy is the OCZ PC4000 XTC and Normal Gold not covered in either article??? The Platnium EB's are too much money, and i would like a good read and comparison on the XTC/Golds. As a side note, Crucial stopped making their 2GB DDR1 kit, so they couldnt replace my dead det, which is why i got the OCZ's Reply
bigtoe36 - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkXTC and golds do feature the same IC, OCZ are moving to replace all old heatspreaders with XTC so you will see some older stock using the old spreader in stores.
So apples to apples they should clock near the same but the XTC moduls running a little cooler. Reply
johnford64 - Friday, January 27, 2006 - linkBut my question is why neither XTC or Gold kits have been reviewed here, if there have please let me know where Reply
Miggle - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linknot much difference (in RTCW at least) between 400mhz and 533 (must be the timings). Good review tho.
Now, i'm looking for a link that shows how mem timings impact A64 (2-2-2-6 vs 2.5-3-3-7). Hope someone could give me one.
still, me thinks that fast mem = costs too much and not that worth-it. I just bought geil value ram that does 2.5-3-3-6 @ 200mhz and quite happy /w it (on AXP still tho). Reply
android1st - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkI was just trying to decide about my next system whether I should wait for DDR2 or increase the memory on my old system. I think I'm going to wait for DDR2, hopefully AMD will roll out 65nm around the same time as the new socket. And prices will be reasonable and availability will be high. Guess we'll wait and see... Reply
Nocturnal - Monday, January 23, 2006 - linkCrucial recently pulled their Ballistix 2GB kits due to unforseen circumstances. Everyone at XS is speculating that all of the RMAs that have been going on is culprit. Reply
johnford64 - Friday, January 27, 2006 - linkThat happened to me, 2 dead kits. They tried to offer me 2GB of PC3200. Like hell i am taking $150 ram in place of my $400 USD ram. Reply
WouT - Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - linkI can confirm:
It would be a good idea to mention this in the article as readers should be informed that this memory is not in production and cannot be replaced by the same part anymore.
Welcome to Crucial Technology's Expert Online. An Expert Online agent will join you in a moment... Please do not begin typing until you have been connected to an agent.
Hello, my name is Patrick . How may I help you?
Ewoud Venmans: I am looking for the fastest available 2GB kit for my ASUS A8R-MVP motherboard
Patrick : One moment, please, while I review your inquiry.
The agent is sending you to http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?model=A...">http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?model=A....
Patrick : The link provided will take you to a list of memory upgrades that are guaranteed to be compatible, or your money back (shipping not included).
Is there anything else I can help you with?
Ewoud Venmans: Ok, but the speeds are only up to PC3200. I am looking for PC4000.
Ewoud Venmans: Newegg does sell them, but I cannot find these on your site.
Ewoud Venmans: They should work as well, won't they?
Patrick : The parts at the top of the list are PC4000.
Ewoud Venmans: Sorry I only see PC3200 and PC2700 in the list?
Patrick : Yes, you are right. We don't have the PC400 anymore.
Ewoud Venmans: And if I click on performance memory I can only see PC4000 1Gb kits, not the 2Gb kits.
Ewoud Venmans: Ahhh, so if I order those at newegg, I will still have your lifetime guarantee?
Patrick : If you order that product at New Egg, after 30 days you will not be able to get that product, however we will replace with a product like PC3200 or give you a In Store Credit.
Ewoud Venmans: Hmm, so you stopped producing these and won't introduce PC4000 1GB modules anymore?
Patrick : Not in DDR. We will in DDR2.
Ewoud Venmans: Ok, thank you Patrick! You have answered all what I wanted to know.
Patrick : You're welcome. Thank you for visiting Crucial.com, and have a great day. Reply


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More than a year ago, I explained why end-to-end flow-based forwarding doesn't scale (and Doug Gourlay did the same using way more colorful language) and what the real-life limitations are. Not surprisingly, the gurus that started the whole OpenFlow movement came to the same conclusions and presented them at the HotSDN conference in August 2012 ... but even that hasn't stopped some people from evangelizing the second coming.
The Problem
Contrary to what some pundits claim, flow-based forwarding will never scale. If you've been around long enough to experience ATM-to-the-desktop failure, Multi-Layer Switching (MLS) kludges, demise of end-to-end X.25, or the cost of traditional circuit switching telephony, you know what I'm talking about. If not, supposedly it's best to learn from your own mistakes – be my guest.
Before someone starts Moore Law incantations: software-based forwarding will always be more expensive than predefined hardware-based forwarding. Yes, you can push tens of gigabits through a highly optimized multi-core Intel server. You can also push 1,2Tbps through Broadcom chipset at comparable price. The ratios haven't changed much in the last decades, and I don't expect them to change in the near future.
Scalable architectures
The scalability challenges of flow-based forwarding have been well understood (at least within IETF, ITU is living on a different planet) decades ago. That's why we have destination-only forwarding, variable-length subnet masks and summarization, and Diffserv (with a limited number of traffic classes) instead of Intserv (with per-flow QoS).
The limitations of destination-only hop-by-hop forwarding were also well understood for at least two decades and resulted in MPLS architecture and various MPLS-based applications (including MPLS Traffic Engineering).
There's a huge difference between MPLS TE forwarding mechanism (which is the right tool for the job), and distributed MPLS TE control plane (which sucks big time). Traffic engineering is ultimately an NP-complete knapsack problem best solved with centralized end-to-end visibility.
MPLS architecture solves the forwarding rigidity problems while maintaining core network scalability by recognizing that while each flow might be special, numerous flows share the same forwarding behavior.
Edge MPLS routers (edge LSR) thus sort the incoming packets into forwarding equivalence classes (FEC), and use a different Label Switched Path (LSP) across the network for each of the forwarding classes.
Please note that this is a gross oversimplification. I'm trying to explain the fundamentals, and (following a great example of physicists) ignore all the details... oops, take the ideal case.
The simplest classification implemented in all MPLS-capable devices today is destination prefix-based classification (equivalent to traditional IP forwarding), but there's nothing in MPLS architecture that would prevent you from using N-tuples to classify the traffic based on source addresses, port numbers, or any other packet attribute (yet again, ignoring the reality of having to use PBR with the infinitely disgusting route-map CLI to achieve that).
MPLS is just a tool
Always keep in mind that every single network technology is a tool, not a solution (some of them might be solutions looking for a problem, but that's another story), and some tools are more useful in some scenarios than others ... which still doesn't make them good or bad, but applicable or inapplicable.
Also, after more than a decade of tinkering, the vendor MPLS implementations leave a lot to be desired. If you hate a particular vendor's CLI or implementation kludges, blame them, not the technology.
Edge and Core OpenFlow
After this short MPLS digression, let's come back to the headline topic. Large-scale OpenFlow-based solutions face two significant challenges:
- It's hard to build resilient networks with centralized control plane and unreliable transport between the controller and controlled devices (this problem was well known in the days of Frame Relay and ATM);
- You must introduce layers of abstraction in order to scale the network.
Martin Casado, Teemu Koponen, Scott Shenker and Amin Tootoonchian addressed the second challenge in their Fabric: A Retrospective on Evolving SDN paper, where they propose two layers in an SDN architectural framework:
- Edge switches, which classify the packets, perform network services, and send the packets across core fabric toward the egress edge switch;
- Core fabric, which provides end-to-end transport.
Not surprisingly, they're also proposing to use MPLS labels as the fabric forwarding mechanism.
Where's the beef?
The fundamental difference between typical MPLS networks we have today and the SDN Fabric proposed by Martin Casado et al. is the edge switch control/management plane: FEC classification is downloaded into the edge switches through OpenFlow (or some similar mechanism).
Existing MPLS implementations or protocols have no equivalent mechanism, and a mechanism for a consistent implementation of a distributed network edge policy would be highly welcome (all of my enterprise OpenFlow use cases fall into this category).
Finally, is MPLS NAT?
Now that we've covered MPLS fundamentals, I have to mention another pet peeve that annoys me: let's see why it's ridiculous to compare MPLS to NAT.
As explained above, MPLS edge routers classify ingress packets into FECs, and attach a label signifying the desired treatment to each of the packet. The original packet is not changed in any way; any intermediate node can get the raw packet content if needed.
NAT, on the other hand, always changes the packet content (at least the layer-3 addresses, sometimes also layer-4 port numbers), or it wouldn't be NAT.
NAT breaks transparent end-to-end connectivity, MPLS doesn't. MPLS is similar to lossless compression (ZIP), NAT is similar to lossy compression (JPEG). Do I need to say more?


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Usually 5 days before the season starts. But some divisions adjust the schedule AFTER the season starts to create as balanced matches as possible. The schedules will also be posted on our website. Don't panic - simply check the website regularly.
Generally, 30-45 minutes prior to kickoff.
Each morning, the first two teams playing on the field that day are required to set up the goals. This activity should be directed by the coach or assistant coach who has been trained in assembling the goals. This should be completed at least 45 minutes PRIOR to the start time of the match. Likewise, as indicated on the schedule, the last teams of the day have the responsibility of safely taking down the goals and nets, and placing ALL of the pieces, stakes, hammers and nets in the appropriate bags. Under no circumstances are players or children allowed to help putting up or taking down the goals and nets.
Earrings may never be worn, even if taped or padded in practice or games. No jewelry, friendship bracelets, watches, necklaces, plastic or metal hair barrettes or "hair wraps" may be worn during practices or games as well. Only soft knee braces may be worn upon inspection and approval of the referee prior to the match. No casts, soft or hard, are permitted. MedicAlert bracelets may be covered by tape to keep them snug against the wrist and completely hidden.
All referees must complete the background check and Safe Haven course, as well as a classroom-style Regional Referee Program/Certification Course. New and returning referees should check the "Referee Corner" on our website frequently - especially before the season commences.
NOTE: It is expected that each team - regardless of age group - have 2 – 3 parents volunteer to become a Program Certified Referee.
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No, it is prohibited by our field permit with the City of Santa Monica (even at parks that would otherwise allow them). Players, parents or spectators will be asked to leave the grounds if they have a pet.
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Since the beginning of the year, I have been working on curating one of our upcoming exhibitions for Fall 2013, Staking Claim: A California Invitational. The exhibition is the second in a triennial that began at MOPA in 2010 with the exhibition State of Mind: A California Invitational, and focuses on contemporary California photographers. You might be wondering, how do we create an invitational? Well, beginning this summer, I reached out to over 50 curators, galleries, and other professionals and gave them the chance to nominate up to three photographers whose work they felt was strong and worthy of being part of a museum exhibition. The response was incredible with over 80 different artists nominated, some garnering more than one nomination. From here I shared the nominations with our director and I began scheduling gallery and studio appointments to see the artists' work.
One of the most exciting aspects of putting together a show like this is being exposed to so many emerging and newly established photographers and having the opportunity to meet them and speak with them about their work. Since September I have traveled to both Los Angeles and San Francisco to meet these artists and have had some incredible conversations about the state of photography today and what inspires these artists to continue to work with the medium. While there isn't a direct theme for the exhibition outside of these photographers being California based, through the nominations, I have seen many different themes and ideas about the art form emerging. I have also noticed that while the photographs created don't have to be done in California, the landscape and way of life on the West Coast are present in much of the work I have seen. While I am at the tail end of finalizing the short list and can't reveal too much more at this point, I can say that this will be an incredible show not to be missed.
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Letters to the Editor for Feb. 4, 2013
Published: Monday, February 4, 2013 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Friday, February 1, 2013 at 11:11 p.m.
Cynical farce
Have you noticed how mellow Gov. Scott is acting? He's not champing at the bit for budget cuts like he did. He's all warm and fuzzy, with calls for teacher raises and more funds for UF, so it can chase the bogus title of a top-10 school.
He's speeding down the slippery slope towards re-election. You can't wield power if you're not in power, so expect more comical antics from a guy who doesn't care about you, the environment or the ever-growing gap between haves and have nots.
I'm a moderate Republican, and understand this cynical farce will turn as quickly as a diamondback if he wins in 2014. Just once I'd like to see my party put forth a candidate who can relate, whose ethics are never questioned and who looks for long-term goals for the betterment of all, rather than the quick buck for the pockets of a few.
Raymond D. Harris,
Bravo to UF show
The University of Florida department of theatre has done it again! Its production of "A Servant to Two Masters" is an entertainment as good as anything seen on Gainesville's stages this year.
The very fine cast is lead by Joseph Urick, a third–year MFA Acting student whose wit, timing and energy kept the audience riveted. Michelle Bellaver, who starred in the Hippodrome's "Other Desert Cities," was also a revelation playing a woman disguised as a man.
The elaborate and intricate set was extremely clever and allowed for a wonderful and hilarious flow of movement. In addition, the costumes, musicians and the entire cast all are to be commended.
Most significantly, Judith Williams has added another wild success to her directing resume. Bravo!
Melanie Saxon,
Hagel's hearings
Why did John Kerry breeze through confirmation while Chuck Hagel is being skewered by his own party? Why didn't John McCain demand a yes-or-no answer from Kerry regarding his 2003 vote against authorizing the use of force in Iraq?
Of course, the answer to these questions is obvious. The Republicans want Kerry in the Cabinet so his Senate seat will be up for grabs. On the other hand, there is no political upside to allowing a retired Republican moderate to serve in Obama's cabinet. That might obstruct them trying to paint Obama as the most left-wing nutjob in history.
Don't fool yourself, their objections to Hagel have nothing to do with Iran, Israel or the surge in Iraq.
Watch, once they oust Hagel, the Republicans will (weirdly) propose a sitting Democratic senator for the post and make it sound like they are being magnanimous. Everything is politics in Washington.
Tom Lyons,
Half the story
David Jenkins (Sun, Jan. 30), like so many others who are opposed to regulating 30-round gun clips, only quote half of the Second Amendment.
The amendment clearly states that a "well regulated" militia is necessary to the security of a free state.
When that state has police, the National Guard and all kinds of federal law enforcement agencies including the most powerful army in the world, it's unclear whether would there ever be a need for a militia. I am a gun owner several times over, but am not opposed to being well regulated when it comes to modern-day weapons.
When I was young and immature I joined the National Rifle Assocation and stayed a member until I realized they were nothing more than a lobbying tool for firearm manufacturers.
Charles Williams,
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Quaker & Special Collections contains Haverford College's rare books, manuscripts, and the college archives. We seek to collect, preserve, and make available materials which serve the research and teaching needs of the Haverford community as well as the wider scholarly community. Our world-renowned Quaker collections, which illuminate Quaker life, faith, and practice from the earliest days of the Society of Friends to the present is the highlight of the collection, while our varied collecting foci provide many opportunities for researchers. The collections are open to all.
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Quaker & Special Collections by Subject
Quaker & Special Collections collects in a wide variety of subject areas and in many material formats. A few of our collection strengths, including information about our world-renown Quaker collections, along with the types of materials we collect in these areas, are detailed below. These are by no means the only subjects in our collections, however; for information on how to find other materials, scroll down to the "Accessing Materials" tab.
Quaker Materials
Haverford's world-renowned collection of Quaker materials is centered around the rich Philadelphia-area Quaker community and the long history of Quakerism in the United States. Manuscript materials include the papers of numerous prominent Quaker leaders including Rufus Jones, the Cadbury family, the Cope family, the Evans family, and others. Published materials include a large number of Quaker tracts, many dating to the early days of Quakerism during the English Civil War; materials published by and about Quakers (both scholarly and popular) from its founding to the present; a large collection of Quaker-related broadsides and newspapers; as well as a rich collection of Quaker fiction. Quaker & Special Collections is also the repository for the Philadelphia and Baltimore Yearly Meeting records in conjunction with Friends Historical Library at Swarthmore College.
Haverford History
Quaker & Special Collections includes the college archives, which documents the history of Haverford College from its founding in 1833 to the present. Materials include publications by and about the college, such as catalogs, alumni magazines, yearbooks, and the student newspaper; records of campus administrative departments; personal papers of past presidents, faculty, staff, students, and alumni; materials documenting the change and growth of Haverford's campus and physical plant; student life materials, including records of student clubs, scrapbooks, and diaries; photographs; and more. We continue to add materials to this collection in order to preserve the ongoing history of the college for future users.
For more information, researchers may want to consult our research guide for Haverford History or the indexes to the archives (HCV, HCA, HCHC).
British and American Literature
Quaker & Special Collection's literary holdings are particularly strong in British and American literature. Shakespeare is well represented, with early publications of both individual plays and the first four editions of his collected works (the "four folios"). Later British literature includes strong collections of John Milton, John Ford, John Dryden, Samuel Johnson (including his Dictionary), William Cowper, Charles Dickens, William Makepeace Thackeray, Lewis Carroll, Robert Lewis Stevenson, and John Davidson. Our American literature holdings are particularly strong in the nineteenth century, including authors such as John Greenleaf Whittier, Mark Twain, James Fenimore Cooper, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Henry James, Herman Melville, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, Walt Whitman, Bret Harte, and Phillis Wheatley. The literary collections are not limited to English language literatures, however, but also include early editions of Don Quixote (in both English and Spanish), Dante, and Montaigne. The Charles Roberts Autograph Collection includes numerous letters and other documents by novelists, poets, dramatists, and essayists.
Native American History
Quaker & Special Collections's Native American holdings are particularly strong in three areas: letters, diaries, photographs, and other materials documenting the interactions between Native Americans and whites in the Pennsylvania and New York regions, including the Lenape (also known as the Delaware) Nation and Iroquois Confederacy (particularly the Seneca Nation); records books, letters, and financial documents related to the Central Superintendency, which was responsible for Native American affairs in Kansas, Nebraska, and parts of the Dakotas, Wyoming, and Colorado and which was run by Quakers at the request of President Grant until 1879; and published materials on Native Americans, mainly from the nineteenth century, including important works by George Catlin and McKenney and Hall's History of the Indian Tribes of North America.
The Philadelphia Yearly Meeting Indian Committee was established in 1795, and its records include minutes, financial papers, account books, correspondence, addresses, reports, journals, scrapbooks, legal, land and legislative related papers, and maps, covering topics including Friends' visits to Native Americans (at Oneida, Genesanguhta, and Stockbridge, among others), the settlement and boarding school at Tunesassa, the Ogden Land Company, the Buffalo Treaty fraud of 1838, and the construction of the Kinzua Dam in the 1960s.
For more information, researchers may want to consult our research guide for Native American History.
African-American Studies
Many of the family papers held in Quaker & Special Collections include correspondence, diaries and journals, and drafts of speeches and articles by people involved with the anti-slavery and abolitionist movements; some also include materials which document travel through slaveholding states and include comments and observations of slavery. We also hold extensive materials related to the Free Produce Movement, in which people tried to purchase food and clothing which had no connection to slave labor. Records for a number of Philadelphia-area organizations such as the Bethany Mission for Colored People and the Emlen Institution for the Benefit of Children of African and Indian Descent provide information on social programs. Published materials of interest include numerous editions, some illustrated, of Uncle Tom's Cabin; anti-slavery tracts; arguments for and against abolition; and several early editions of Phillis Wheatley's poems. Our collection of 18th through 20th century newspapers contains over 250 titles, mostly from New England and the Mid-Atlantic states, and many have information on the anti-slavery movement. The photography collection includes a large number of African-American photographers from the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.
Researchers interested in slavery and abolition may wish to consult our research guide.
History of Printing
Quaker & Special Collections's holdings of printed books provide an overview of many aspects of printing history. Manuscript materials include a 13th century Bible from Northern France as well as manuscripts in Arabic, Hebrew, and Latin from both the Middle East and Medieval Europe. Examples of early printing include a page from the Gutenberg Bible, the first book printed with moveable type in the West; several books published by Aldus Manutius, one of the earliest publishers of classical texts; and the first printed edition of Dante's Divine Comedy (1472).
Other holdings show the history and transition of illustration processes (including woodcuts, engravings, etchings, acquatints, wood engravings, lithographs, and various photomechanical processes); the transition from the hand-printing age to the machine age; and the modern use of pre-mechanized printing techniques through fine press books, including examples from the Kelmscott and Roycroft presses, and artist's books.
The holdings on Asian history and culture in Quaker & Special Collections cover most of the continent, often through unpublished diaries and letters of travelers, teachers, and missionaries; photographs and photo albums; and published materials of many kinds. Our holdings related to Japan are particularly strong, and include the papers of teachers in Japan (including Edith Sharpless, Gilbert and Minnie Bowles, and Esther Rhoads); the records of the Japan Committee of the Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of Friends, which began mission work in Japan in the 1880s; and numerous photographs taken in Japan. Our Middle Eastern materials include over 100 lantern slides of Palestine from the 1930s and papers of teachers at schools in Ramallah, Palestine and Brummana, Lebanon (including Kahlil and Eva Totah, Daniel and Emily Oliver, and William Evans), as well as the J. Rendel Harris collection, which consists cheifly of Middle Eastern manuscripts. Other holdings include materials on China, India, Turkey, and the Philippines, among others.
Interested researchers may want to consult our research guide for more complete information.
History of Science and Nature
Quaker & Special Collections holds first editions of seminal works in the history of science include Darwin's On the Origin of Species, Einstein's Die Grundlage der allgemeinen Relativitätstheorie, Copernicus's De Revolutionibus Orbium Coelestium, and Newton's Principia Mathematica, as well as works of natural history such as Audubon's The Quadrupeds of North America. In addition, Quaker & Special Collections holds almanacs, works on natural history, gardening, and farming. Some manuscript holdings also describe farming in the eighteenth and nineteenth century mid-Atlantic, and Haverford College history materials include much on the history of the arboretum campus. The Charles Roberts Autograph Letters Collection holds numerous letters from important scientists in a variety of fields.
For more information, researchers may want to consult our research guide.
Fine Arts
Quaker & Special Collections includes Haverford College's art collections, which includes fine art photography, prints, drawings, paintings, sculptures, and artifacts. The photography collection,which includes almost 5,000 fine art images, is one of the strongest college photograph collections in the country and is particularly strong in African-American photographers. There is a strong collection of Greek vases, as well as some examples of African sculpture and masks. The print collection is strongest in modern artists such as Chagall and Miro. A small portion of our art collection is browsable online.
Haverford College's photography collection includes both fine art photography as well as more everyday snapshots and historical photographs, which are often found as parts of personal and family papers. Together, these document the history of photography and photographic technology, and include daguerreotypes, tintypes, glass plate negatives, lantern slides, carte de visites, albumen prints, silver gelatin prints, color photographs, and more. The collection includes significant collections of photographers including Ansel Adams, Charles Currier, Edward Curtis, Walker Evans (including many of his color photographs), Lewis Hine, Sol Mednick, E. Eugene Smith, Jessie Wilcox Smith, Edward Jean Steichen, Paul Strand, and Carl Van Vechten. It is also particularly strong in photographs of and by African-Americans.
Colonial Mid-Atlantic American History
Colonial Mid-Atlantic history holdings are closely tied to the collections of Quaker families held in Quaker & Special Collections and mainly document fairly well-to-do merchant families in the Pennsylvania and New Jersey regions. Materials include correspondence, diaries, journals, commonplace books, legal materials (deeds, wills, and marriage certificates), maps and surveys, and both business and personal financial records. Topics covered include travel, business and commerce, health and family, religion and ministry, missionary work, Native Americans, politics, and philanthropy.
Relief Work
The American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) was heavily involved in relief work in Europe after both World War I and World War II, as well as in Asia following World War II. Their programs included reconstruction work in France and food aid to children in Germany and Poland after World War I, relief and reconstruction work in Germany, Poland, Hungary, and Finland after World War II, efforts to evacuate refugees from Spain during and after the Spanish Civil War, post-World War II relief work in Japan, and relief work in South Africa and Rhodesia in the 1950s and 1960s. Quaker & Special Collections holds the papers of many people who worked with the AFSC on all these projects, as well as some of its leaders and founders.
Researchers may wish to consult our research guide for more information.
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Accessing Materials
To find materials in Quaker & Special Collections, researchers may need to search in several places. Tripod, the Libraries' online catalog, contains the records for all books held by Quaker & Special Collections, and some of the manuscript materials. You can limit your search to Haverford Special Collections.
Some manuscript materials can be found through Tripod. If there is an online guide to the collection, the Tripod record will provide a link to this guide. To browse or search the complete list of manuscript collections, see the link on the right.
Some ephemera can be found through searching Tripod, and there is an index to the newspaper issues held by Quaker & Special Collections.
A small amount of the art held in Quaker & Special Collections is available online. The TriArte database allows you to browse by format or to search. In almost all cases, records in Triarte include an image of the art as well as descriptive information.
Digital surrogates of materials in Quaker & Special Collections can be found in two digital repositories. Collections in Triptych include Bi-Co News photographs, Friendly Association for Regaining and Preserving Peace with the Indians by Pacific Measures materials, the Cope-Evans family papers, historic photographs of Haverford College, Quaker broadsides, Quaker journals and diaries, images of Quaker meeting houses, and materials related to Quakers and slavery. Some material can also be found in digital exhibits, a list of which can be found here.
Materials in Triceratops include recordings of speeches, oral histories, and digital versions of Quaker serials. Also included are minutes of various faculty, administration, and student committees; these may be accessible only to those on campus.
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Quaker & Special Collections welcomes the opportunity to work with classes from across the curriculum as well as classes and organizations beyond Haverford. As a hands-on laboratory for the liberal arts, Quaker & Special Collections provides students with the opportunity to work with original primary materials and develop rhetorical and critical thinking skills, cultural stewardship, a sense of the authority and authenticity of sources, empathy and engagement with materials, the importance of physical artifacts, and an acceptance of ambiguity.
Quaker & Special Collections's teaching philosophy is to deeply engage students with original primary materials, to expose as many students as possible to our unique resources, and to provide them with the tools they need to best analyze, interpret, and use these resources. As a special collections department at an undergraduate liberal arts college, part of our mission is to facilitate student learning and faculty teaching.
Classes in Quaker & Special Collections can be arranged for any size and for students at any level. Introductory classes might include a brief orientation to the concept and existence of Quaker & Special Collections; all classes include time for students to interrogate and handle materials. Often, students will work with materials which might be used in a class assignment, and then return individually to spend more time with resources. Sessions are planned in conjunction with the course instructor.
If you are interested in setting up an instruction session, or wondering what materials might be appropriate for a class, please contact us.
Classes and visits for schools and organizations not affiliated with Haverford College are also supported; we welcome the opportunity to work with a wide variety of groups. We are happy to support visits from K-12 schools and other area colleges, scholarly organizations, any groups interested in Quaker history, and groups of librarians and archivists. Groups interested in such sessions should contact Quaker & Special Collections; a librarian will then help to plan your class or event.
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We attempt to accommodate all requests for reproductions as long this does not damage the materials or violate copyright law. Some materials, due to fragility or other issues, may only be reproduced through certain methods. Please consult a staff member if you have questions.
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Patrons may use cameras in the Reading Room provided that the flash and all sounds are turned off. Some restricted materials may not be photographed. No personal scanners are permitted in the Reading Room.
Photocopies, PDFs, and Scans
Patrons may request up to 100 photocopies or PDF copies per year of materials in our collections. Copies cost $10 for the first ten copies, and $.25/page after that. Publication-quality scans or digital images cost $10/page. These will be provided at 600 ppi unless otherwise specified.
Photocopies and PDFs of open-stacks materials
Patrons can make their own PDFs or photocopies of open-stacks materials. PDFs are free, copies cost $.15/copy.
Non-Tri-College patrons will be charged $.10 for printing, including printing from the microfilm reader.
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Materials in our collection are governed by U.S. copyright law. Please contact us for permission to publish and our preferred citation and attribution information. All materials should be noted as being from Quaker & Special Collections, Haverford College, Haverford, Pennsylvania.
Gifts & Donations
Quaker & Special Collections gladly accepts gifts of materials that enlarge and strengthen our collections. Among the areas in which we collect most deeply are rare books, personal and family papers, materials related to Quaker history and practice, organizational records, and Haverford College history (papers of students, faculty, and alumni, as well as published materials). The subject areas listed above are examples of some of the areas in which we collect. Our collecting is not always limited to these areas, however, and we are willing to explore adding new areas of strength if they have connections to the Haverford curriculum or to current collecting areas.
Quaker & Special Collections also serves as the repository of Quaker Meetings records for Philadelphia and Baltimore Yearly Meetings. We have a deep interest in Quaker meeting records, and are happy to accept other records of this type. Meetings interested in depositing materials may wish to consult recommendations from PYM.
For more information about making a donation, please contact Quaker & Special Collections.
Campus offices interested in transferring records to the archives should contact the College Archivist.
Those interested in donating other materials to the general library collection should click here.
New to Quaker & Special Collections
- The Christian experiences, gospel labours and writings, of that ancient servant of Christ
Stephen Crisp
Philadelphia : Benjamin & Thomas Kite, 1822
- Gandhi's interpreter : a life of Horace Alexander
Geoffrey Carnall
Edinburgh : Edinburgh University Press, 2010
- The doctrines of Friends : or, principles of the Christian religion, as held by the Society of Friends, commonly called Quakers
Elisha Bates
Providence [R.I.] : Knowles, Anthony & Co., 1866
- The great case of tithes : truly stated, clearly open'd and fully resolv'd
Anthony Pearson
London : Printed and sold by the assigns of J. Sowle, 1732
- Ensayos sobre las pruebas, doctrinas, y operacion practica del Cristianismo
Joseph John Gurney
Londres [England] : Imprenta de John Hill, 1830
- Simplicity, equality, and slavery : an archaeology of Quakerism in the British Virgin Islands, 1740-1780
John M. Chenoweth
Gainesville : University of Florida Press, [2017]
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'Safe sexting' apps criticised
Teenagers are "sexting" using apps they think will protect their pictures, but which experts have warned are riddled with security flaws.
The flaws have been discovered in apps such as Snapchat and Facebook Poke, used by many for sexting because they automatically delete images after one to 10 seconds and notify users if recipients take screen shots.
But experts say "safe sexting" is impossible. Other security flaws in the apps include the ability for receivers to upload photos onto their computer before opening them. Snapchat itself has also been found to expose a user's email address without their knowledge in the past.
The latest glitch was revealed by a hacker who demonstrated Snapchat screenshots could be taken without notifying the sender.
The commander of the Australian Sex Crimes Squad, Detective Superintendent John Kerlatec, said teens and adults should think twice about sending a sexually explicit message.
"Once that image appears on a screen, a screen shot can be taken and distributed anywhere, and can last forever," he said.
Detective Kerlatec said people who used the apps could face criminal charges.
"It can [damage] job prospects and make you suffer the consequences down the track," he said. "Secondly, sending, receiving or passing on under-age sexual images can lead to a jail sentence between seven and 15 years."
Director of Cybersafe Solutions, Susan McLean, also warned against the use of "safe sexting" apps. She said she believed it was only a matter of time before security flaws showed up. "A lot of teenagers are sending sexy images believing that no one will see them."
The apps lulled people into "a false sense of security" with publicity saying the images will disappear.
"But of course, that's not the case. There is no such thing as privacy on the internet - there is security, and you can give yourself different levels of security," Ms McLean said.
Nina Funnell, a Sydney technology commentator, has created an app called "Sizzle", which has been criticised for encouraging teens to believe they can sext securely.
Ms Funnell said she believed it was important to disentangle legal and safety concerns from the broader moral hang-ups that some people have about nudity.
"There are considerable concerns around the safety of the apps, and there's no 100 per cent safety guarantee, but it's important to think about developing solutions to the problems," she said.
"Apps like Snapchat and Sizzle are very much in their infancy. Sizzle isn't a solution, but stimulating thought about what else could be done is important. Highlighting a shift in technology and a new generation, let's think about how do we exclude and maintain privacy," Ms Funnell said.
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Winners of the News Photographers Association of Canada (NPAC) 2012 awards were announced Saturday night during a gala in Calgary.
The Winnipeg Free Press won big, with honours going to photographers Ruth Bonneville, Phil Hossack, Joe Bryksa and Multimedia Editor Melissa Tait.
Bonneville and Tait won first place in the team multimedia category for One Tough Mudder, a video following the training of Winnipegger Caelin White for the World's Toughest Mudder Race 2012, where racers are put through a muddy 24-hour obstacle course that tests their strength and endurance.-P96xavpg.js">
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Bryksa was awarded third place in the feature category for a lively photo of a hearse making a stop at a fast food drive-thru.
The gala took place Saturday night in Calgary during the annual NPAC conference.
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KNOXVILLE (Oct. 31, 2013) -- Here's a list of some of the Veterans Day-focused event that are planned througout Knox County over the next few weeks:
November 6 (Wednesday), 11 a.m.
Strang Senior Center
109 Lovell Heights Road
Veterans Day Lunch and Social
Speaker Robert Jackson "Jack" Pursley, PhD, US Army Retired. He is a veteran of three wars, World War II, Korea and Vietnam. RSVP firstname.lastname@example.com
November 8 (Friday), 9 a.m.
Christian Academy of Knoxville
529 Academy Way (on Dutchtown between Cedar Bluff and Pellissippi Parkway)
CAK will have a ceremony with Medal of Honor recipient Joe Marm. in their gym, One hour program. RSVP firstname.lastname@example.com
November 8 (Friday), 11 a.m.
World's Fair Park
2014 Medal of Honor Convention flag raising ceremony at East Tennessee Veterans Memorial, there is a free lunch afterwards, but you should RSVP ASAP firstname.lastname@example.com
November 9 (Saturday), 8 a.m.
Help needed at Tennessee State Veterans Cemetery Lyons View to place flags at headstones.
November 11 (Monday), 9 a.m. line up/10:40 a.m.
Route travels along Gay Street
88th Annual Veterans Day Parade steps off 1040am. Presented by American Legion, Post 2
November 11 (Monday), 12:30 p.m.
Knoxville Convention Center
31st Annual Veterans Day Awards and Recognition Luncheon
Presented by East Tennessee Military Affairs Council, immediately following the parade at The Knoxville Convention Center – Knoxville, TN Featured Service - United States Navy - Guest Speaker Is CMDCM (AW) James Barlow Fighter Squadron Composite Twelve (VFC-12), Command Master Chief. LAST DAY TO REGISTER 4 November 2013 http://2013veteransdayluncheon.eventbrite.com
November 11 (Monday), 2 p.m.
Veterans Day Program at the Tennessee State Veterans Cemetery, Lyons Views.
November 11 (Monday), 3 p.m.
Pellissippi State Community Colege
10915 Hardin Valley Road
Dedication of Ben Atchley Veterans Success Center, Courtyard, Educational Resources Center at Pellissippi State Community College.
November 12 (Tuesday), 11 a.m.
Corryton Senior Center
9331 Davis Drive
Quilts of Valor presentation to three World War II veterans followed by lunch. RSVP email@example.com


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it cant find it nor does it load when BT starts up, i placed it in teh modules folder
well let me know if you figure anything out
im going to try this too
i figured it out!
this is how i got BT3 to work on my USB stick with my ati radeon x1250 card
do this
download this driver
save it to your BT3 folder on your usb stick
now start bt3 with acpi=off noapic
login root/toor
then do these following commands
cd /mnt/sdb1 (yours may be different)
cd BT3
cp ati-driver-installer-8-7-x86.x86_64.run /root
cd /root
youll get the installer, go through the installer, and when its done
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We've published stories in Dallas Voice and here on Instant Tea about Ranch Hand Rescue, the gay-owned and -operated animal rescue operation out in Argyle, Texas. Bob Williams and his partner, Marty Polasko, take in animals of all kinds that have been abused and neglected, rehabilitating them and giving them someplace to live out their lives in comfort.
One of the rescue animals was a miniature named Midnite who has been having to navigate on three legs after losing part of his left rear leg to injury. On Sunday, Williams reports, Midnite received a prosthetic leg that allows him to actually run around the ranch.
Midnite came to Ranch Hand Rescue after being seized from his previous owner due to neglect. Williams said Midnite was underweight, malnourished and extremely depressed when he first arrived, in addition to missing a hoof and coffin bone, a condition that would have, under different circumstances, forced officials to euthanize the little horse. Instead, Midnite was moved to Ranch Hand Rescue where his lengthy, and costly, rehabilitation began. After the jump, Williams offers a description of that process:


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Ms. Blue is one special dog! Even though she has a disability and can not stand up all the way in a correct position, she can still run with the big dogs. She loves to be petted and just talked to. Each morning when our volunteers say hello to Ms. Blue, she will exit her kennel and come over and give out big hugs (she stands up using her back legs and will literally hug your leg with her two front deformed legs).
Won't you consider helping make her journey worth traveling. Please consider meeting Ms. Blue, you can judge for yourself how truly special this little gal is.
Intake 2/26/2013 ~ Lets get her "HOME" soon!!!
PLEASE READ OUR ADOPTION PROCESS INFORMATION BEFORE SUBMITTING ANY COMMUNICATION OR APPLICATION TO US. Thank you!
A note from our Director:
"I have been a lifelong rescuer; all of my pets (currently, 10 dogs and 5 cats) are rescue animals. They mean the world to me and I want to help as many animals as I can while I am on this earth. Back in 2003, I gathered together many animal lovers in the area and we started our rescue efforts; we've continued to grow over time and are now operating as a 501c3 organization, which has helped us strengthen our efforts to save the animals. We want to see that no animal goes without love, shelter, food or a happy life. We work on educating the public about the overpopulation problem, we promote spay/neuter programs, and we do group tours at our facility to teach about the rescue re-home world. To get our youth community involved, we visit schools to teach about responsible pet ownership, animal abuse and neglect, and what they as an animal advocate can do to help prevent these tragedies. We are proud of what we do here at our rescue and we believe it is our job to protect those that speak another language and quite honestly, we just could not imagine a world without them. I invite you to join our efforts by becoming a sustainable monthly donor, a volunteer with our program or, simply to be another voice for the animals. Contact us today to find out how you can help."
We are open to the public:
For Cats -
Daily from 9am - 12noon, and again from 5pm - 8pm.
For Dogs -
Wednesdays 9am - 12noon, and again from 5pm - 8pm. Saturday mornings from 9am - 12noon.
Sunday evenings from 5pm-8pm.
We are also available by appointment should these times not work with an interested party's schedule.
Please understand that even though we are completely staffed by volunteers, we run our shelter much as any business and therefore, we've set aside specific times for public visitations with our rescues. At this time, random drop-ins for animal viewing beyond the times listed above will not be serviced.
1) As we are a small rescue/re-home facility with an equally as small volunteer staff, at this time we are forced to limit our adoptions to suitable adopters that reside within a 100 mile radius of our facility. Before you proceed with any adoption inquiries, be aware of where we are located in relation to your personal residence.
2) A basic list of steps is noted below, followed by a more through explanation of our policies and procedures.
Be aware that we have Fencing, Indoor Living and Declawing policies. We will not waiver on these policies as it is our responsibility to ensure the animals in our care are placed into the safest and healthiest environment possible. No exceptions made.
Gregory's Gift of Hope retains all rights and maintains ownership of all animals until the adoption process is complete.
1. Come to our facility and meet the animal you are interested in. We will not adopt an animal out, sight unseen.
2. Fill out an application. If you do not meet our requirements or if we feel you are not an appropriate match for the animal you are interested in, you will be contacted with a denial statement.
NOTE: If you live in an apartment, town home, condo or rent a single family home, do you have permission from your landlord or association to house an animal? Proof of this is required BEFORE we can continue with any adoption request. You may email, mail or drop off a copy of your signed rental paperwork at any time. (Email to: email@example.com) WE WILL NOT CONSIDER THIS A VALID ADOPTION APPLICATION UNTIL WE HAVE THIS AUTHORIZATION IN HAND and until this authorization is received, the adoption process is stalled. Please be sure your authorization form contains your property owner's name and phone number as we will call to validate.
3. If all requirements are met, the application then begins to be processed and references provided are checked.
4. A home visit is scheduled.
5. An exit veterinary visit takes place.
6. The animal is ready to go to its new home.
We require anyone interested in adopting an animal to visit our facility, in person, to meet the potential animal to be adopted and to complete a full adoption form, including personal and vet references. In most cases we require home visits to ensure our animals are going to a suitable environment and, when adopting a dog, if there are other dogs in the home we require a meet & greet between dogs to ensure compatibility.
An outdoor containment system is required for all of our dogs, without exception. The link below will provide you with our current fencing policy.
We enforce an Indoor Living policy. Due to the drastic climate changes that can happen rapidly in our northern states, Gregory's will not approve adoptions where the animal will spend the majority of its day in an outside environment.
Declawing of cats is prohibited.
*We spay/neuter all animals prior to their release with the exception of those deemed too young or those who are under weight or physically unable to undergo the procedure at the time of adoption; in those instances the adoptive party will be given a spay/neuter voucher. We will provide a contract, which you must sign, stating that you agree to have the animal altered as soon as medically possible. This contract is to be given to the vet doing the procedure who will in turn, return the contract to us once the spay/neuter has been completed.
Gregory's Gift of Hope retains the right to confiscate the animal if we find that any of our contract requirements (including spay/neutering/declawing, indoor living and containment agreements) are not followed through with.
We cannot guarantee a time-frame for completion of the full process - each application has its own considerations and if there are multiple applications for the same animal, the process is obviously lengthened. Exit veterinary visits can sometimes take a few days depending on their availability. You must also take into consideration that we are an animal "rescue" facility and emergencies often arise which take precedence over everything. We will do our best, however, to move things along in as timely a manner as we possibly can.
Our adoption fees for cats are as follows:
Seniors (8 years and older) - $150
Adults (over 6 months) - $200
Kittens (under 6 months) - $250*
Our adoption fees for dogs are as follows:
Seniors (8 years and older) - $225
Adults (over 6 months) - $325
Puppies (under 6 months) - $375*
*Please refer to the statement above regarding animals deemed too young or those who do not meet the weight requirement to undergo alteration at the time of adoption.
Note: the higher cost for puppies and kittens relates directly to the amount of care and frequency of vaccinations which they require.
Thank You!
Your message has been sent to Gregory's Gift of Hope, Inc.
You'll receive a copy, too, at to help you keep track of which pets you've inquired about, and which shelters and rescues you've emailed.
NOTE: Some shelters have physical locations you can visit; some of these shelters may only have pets for a limited time, so please do not wait for a reply—just go visit the shelter! Other organizations are rescue groups run by busy volunteers who may take a while to reply. You can find information about the shelter or rescue group caring for this pet, and their adoption procedures, on the pet's details page on Adopt-a-Pet.com.


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Predicted winter storm brings snow to Western Pennsylvania
A little bit of snow in the region caused a lot of headaches on Friday.
The 3 to 4 inches of snow that fell caused havoc on roadways, with lengthy traffic jams that lasted for hours and scores of skidding accidents reported.
"The snowfall we had is very typical for this time of year," said meteorologist Brad Rehak of the National Weather Service in Moon. "But almost all of it fell between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m. on Friday, which is about the worst time and day for that to happen."
An additional "dusting" of snow was expected overnight, with up to 1 inch more possible north of Pittsburgh, Rehak said.
The inopportune timing of the storm resulted in a nearly nonstop stream of complaints posted for several hours on Facebook and Twitter from people irked that some streets and highways had not been salted or cleared in time for the afternoon rush hour.
One of the posters, Jennifer Davis of South Fayette, told the Tribune-Review that road crews should have had enough time to better deal with the problem.
"I can't understand when the snow occurred between two rush hours, why it couldn't be cleared?" said Davis, 39, who said a several-block drive from Allegheny General Hospital in the North Side to the West End Bridge took more than an hour.
Most of the main highways were jammed with slow-moving traffic or vehicles that were stopped because of wrecks.
The gridlock was compounded by a number of multivehicle wrecks and several vehicles that had overturned, according to authorities. A tractor-trailer that jackknifed along Route 28 in Armstrong County around 2:30 p.m. shut the roadway down for two hours.
A PennDOT salt truck was damaged when its raised bed passed under the Hite Road bridge at the Cheswick/Springdale exit of Route 28 and hit the overpass, said Steve Cowan, a PennDOT spokesman. The overpass was not damaged and the driver was not injured.
Adding to the problem of driving across the slick coating of snow that fell on already frozen road surfaces was the additional traffic created when businesses let employees out of work early during the storm.
Hundreds of schools statewide dismissed classes early, and a judge in Pittsburgh sent jurors home.
Allegheny County emergency dispatchers received numerous reports from paramedics and police patrol units that were stuck on icy roads throughout the city.
Rob Kaczorowski, who heads Pittsburgh's department of public works, said the city's full complement of 60 snow removal vehicles were deployed and would continue working through the night to make roadways passable.
"We've got most of the main routes cleared and have started going back and touching them up," he said about 4:40 p.m. "Once we're done with that, we'll be hitting the secondary streets."
Because the temperature averaged around 15 degrees through much of the afternoon — too low for salt to effectively melt snow and ice — the salt that was spread was treated with a calcium chloride spray that works down to minus 25 degrees, Kaczorowski said.
PennDOT spokesman Steve Chizmar characterized the snow as a "widespread storm, impacting the entire state" and said the transportation agency had 2,200 trucks available to fight the weather, adding that salt and anti-skid material were in good supply.
The speed limit along portions of the Pennsylvania Turnpike was reduced to 45 mph for a time and state police reported crashes.
The Port Authority of Allegheny County reported delays during the afternoon rush hour of between 60 and 90 minutes along some routes. There were no problems or delays reported for the light-rail system.
Philadelphia International Airport experienced average flight delays of nearly two hours in the evening. However, snow removal on the runways at Pittsburgh International Airport "went smoothly" and a few relatively short delays were experienced, said Jeff Martinelli, an airport spokesman.
Tony LaRussa and Bill Vidonic are staff writers for Trib Total Media. LaRussa can be reached at 412-320-7987 or firstname.lastname@example.com. Vidonic can be reached at 412-380-5621 or firstname.lastname@example.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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I've reached the last stage of the hero cycle in this series. It is known as "The Return." This is where all the people who watched the potential hero answer his call and embark on his journey welcome him home with open arms and shower him with gifts. Really. That's what this stage is all about.
I wrote about the initial stages here and here. The whole idea of the hero cycle is a helpful pattern to know if you are writing any kind of story with a journey or transformation of the main character in that it can help you figure out what comes next.
The final stage, the Return, is made up of three steps: the atonement, the return, and gifts. The atonement is the most difficult to understand, but it helps if you break the word up into its parts, as in at-one-ment. Often, the hero goes through the tranformation and becomes a hero, but they are a reluctant hero. They don't really like this new role and are not comfortable in it. The atonement is where they literally become "at one" with the idea of being a hero. They accept their new role and are finally ready to return to their known world. It completes their transformation into a hero.
Throughout the entire quest, the hero has accepted the call, overcome all obstacles, and now, they are finally ready to live the life that awaits them as a hero. This doesn't have to be a life of fame or as a world leader. It could be that the hero has just overcome a significant challenge which changes their status in some way within their family or community, and they're finally accepting of that change.
Harry Potter provides a great example of this. He goes through the initial stages of the hero cycle repeatedly, but he doesn't really reach the atonement stage until the later books of the series when he accepts who and what he is. This actually allows him to accept the ultimate call to overcome Voldemort for the last time. His final return is after the giant battle and Voldemort's defeat. It is at this point that he receives his gift which is, of course, the girl!
While many writers employ all the stages of the cycle in their longer works, it is possible to focus on just one stage of the cycle. Examples of this would be stories like Kate Chopin's classic "The Story of an Hour" which focuses on "The Call" or Stephen Crane's "The Open Boat" which focuses on the obstacles and challenges. Both of these are well known examples, but you can probably think of many works which employ either the entire cycle or focus on specific stages of it.
This series has been a very simplified version of the hero cycle, but it hopefully serves as an introduction. Joseph Campbell wrote extensively about it, and any internet search will turn up numerous resources. I'd love to hear how this applies to your own works in progress or if it helps you at all in your writing journey.


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