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Promise Technology Announces Pegasus2 and SANLink2 Thunderbolt 2 Productsby Jarred Walton on 10/25/2013 2:48 PM EST
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california_son - Friday, October 25, 2013 - linkNow awaiting influx of people arguing this is too expensive for "consumers."
Promise doesn't target consumers - they never have, they never will.
But this product announcement is definitely great news for professionals in broadcasting and film, especially with 4K gaining traction worldwide. Reply
Reflex - Friday, October 25, 2013 - linkI think the real comment to be made is that Thunderbolt does not target consumers. There are very few products that typical consumers use that depend upon TB or require its capabilities. And that is why companies like Promise are making products like this targeted at professional and IT applications. Reply
adamdz - Sunday, October 27, 2013 - linkI've set up several Pegasus units and was pretty disappointed how cheap they feel: really low quality plastic front panels. I expected aluminum at this price point. Reply
CecileWamsley - Monday, October 28, 2013 - linkmy Aunty Brianna recently got a stunning yellow BMW Three Series Wagon just by working online with a computer. website link... http://smal.ly/8wUo2 Reply
sorten - Friday, October 25, 2013 - linkI have no use for Thunderbolt until a pci-e external enclosure shows up on the market. Then I'm all over it. Reply
Devfarce - Friday, October 25, 2013 - linkThey do exist. Sonnet makes a line of them. They aren't oriented towards graphics cards by size or power requirements but they are there and start at about $400. (I assume that's what you want out of this.) I think someone should make a mini ITX compatible board that is simply an array of 3-4 PCI 3.0x 16 ports with a PLX chip connected to an intel TB 2 controller. Use ATX power supplies and BYO chassis. You have all the expand ability you want and this would be easily be doable for $250. With the Darth Vader Mac Pro coming on line (6 TB!!!!) soon I believe that this will be a reality soon. Professionals are the ones who need and are willing to pay for Thunderbolt but before this their Mac pros didn't have the interface. They are the market who will drive TB, so they need the product to drive it. Reply
cbelle - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkThe problem is each Thunderbolt controller is limited to a total bandwidth of 20Gb/s or about the same as 4x lanes of PCI-e 2.0. I don't think you can combine 2 Thunderbolt controllers (yet?). But even then the MacPro 2013 has 2 - maybe 3 TB controllers via 6 ports. Not enough to feed 3-4 slots of 16x PCI-e 3.0. Reply
Reflex - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkAnother issue is that most PCIe cards and drivers are not able to handle hot swapping. There are no video card drivers that handle this scenario properly. Even if you had external PCIe via TB, you'd need support from AMD/NV in order for it to matter. Reply
jasonelmore - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkso your saying thunderbolt wont initialize until your in the OS? Reply
Reflex - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkNo, I am saying that if you bring your laptop in and set it down next to your TB chassis and plug it in, a variety of bad effects could happen. It is unlikely that the graphics cards would be dynamically recognized and activated. It is much more likely that either they will not or your system will crash. Reply
easp - Sunday, October 27, 2013 - linkI suspect the bigger worry is what happens when you disconnect. For the first month or so, there was a ~25% chance my rMBP would have a kernel panic when I unplugged the thunderbolt ethernet. Its been solid since then though. Reply
Ncrmro - Sunday, November 03, 2013 - linkMaybe something along the lines of an initial sudo operating system that sets up drivers and what not and then handshake over to the OS? Reply
repoman27 - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkMac Pro has three DSL5520 Thunderbolt 2 controllers, which AFAIK still have the same PCIe 2.0 x4 back end as the previous generation dual-port controllers, thus PCIe bandwidth would be limited to exactly PCIe 2.0 x4 per controller. I guess there's a possibility that Intel bumped it up to PCIe 3.0, but until Anand fills a Pegasus2 full of SSDs, we won't know for sure :-)
@Reflex, the issue with getting things to work at all seems to be mostly with EFI/UEFI/BIOS and PCI Reset Delay. If you can power up the GPU after the PC, or have a hardware PCI Reset Delay switch, you can actually boot and load the normal NVIDIA / AMD drivers. Lucid's Virtu works as well. However, drivers that support hot-swap and are optimized for reduced PCIe bandwidth would be a major improvement. Example of DIY Thunderbolt eGPU setup: http://forum.techinferno.com/diy-e-gpu-projects/45...
@jasonelmore, Thunderbolt support is handled differently on Macs and PCs. Many things that Apple implemented at an OS level were pushed into BIOS / UEFI on PCs because Microsoft couldn't be expected to roll them into Windows 8 / 8.1. Reply
Reflex - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkYes, if your willing to hack your hardware it is theoretically possible to make it work. But I doubt that 'solution' is one that would work for, well, almost anyone. It is not a "put a card in a box and dock your laptop to it whenever you put it on your desk" solution, and in fact it requires significant modification of hardware and software, and even then it does not appear to permit hot plugging meaning you'd still have to reboot to dock.
Pretty inconvenient. Also, at the price in question why wouldn't you just get a laptop with a more powerful graphics card? Reply
repoman27 - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkOh, I'm totally with you. I included the link to that project mostly because it illustrated the drawbacks of the current hardware setups and where they run into trouble with existing EFI and drivers. Reply
Reflex - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkThe frustration for me is that if they had prioritized a story like this, TB would have had a real chance in the consumer market. Instead it appears destined as the replacement for Firewire with no real consumer penetration. Reply
psuedonymous - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkMany have tried. It seems as soon as a consumer-priced PCI-E -> Thnderbolt enclosure or adapter comes close to market and attempts to acquire certification (in order to sell with the Thunderbolt name, use the Thunderbolt symbol, etc) Intel inexplicably smacks the project down. This has happened several times so far, so it's distinctly suspicous. Reply
repoman27 - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkAccording to a leaked Intel Thunderbolt Developer's Application Form, External Graphics - Graphics controller/card in external chassis = Currently Not Supported. http://cl.ly/0Z3Q432w2I3x
Granted there are some distinct technical challenges involved in getting this to work in a consumer friendly sort of way, and Intel does state: "Device categories and descriptions are based on general technical assumptions. Final application approvals will be made on a case-by-case by the Thunderbolt team." However, this does reek of an artificially imposed limitation. Reply
lin2log - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkYeah, since there are just SO MANY PCI cards that one just can't do without, since there aren't in fact any replacements for their functionality via USB, Firewire or even Thunderbolt and 9 out of ten times even CHEAPER and BETTER...
Oh wait...
:facepalm: Reply
repoman27 - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkThere are a lot of folks with considerable investment in PCIe cards for applications such as:
SSD / application accelerator
10 / 40 GbE
converged networking
SAS / mini-SAS
pro AV
But I suppose they're idiots for wanting to continue to use thousands of dollars worth of gear they've already paid for, which provides functionality that may be otherwise unobtainable, with a new Mac. Reply
lin2log - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkYeah, you SO need more/different **GPUs** of all things when you buy a new Mac Pro??! LOL! Gotcha.
Everything else? ALL available otherwise. Almost always better, faster and CHEAPER. The rest is yesterday's news and a waste of time and money. NONE of that is "otherwise unobtainable". What BS. The whole "I need PCI slots!" is such utter MALARKEY. Check your calendar. It's almost 2014. Come join us. But then, if you need any of that so badly, you're simply not the truly PRO customer that the Mac Pro is meant for. Well boo-hoo. Reply
lin2log_gay_lover - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - linkYeah, boo-hoo. Don't buy a Mac Pro, loser, just stay with your PC. lin2log and I don't want you buying a Mac Pro. We want the Mac Pro just for us! Lin2log, please pick me up for dinner at 8. I love you! Reply
lin2log - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkSCSI, SATA RAID or any of that other i/o??... LOL!! Brilliant! As if I could even be the least bit interested in those when I have THUNDERBOLT??
Keep pulling stuff out of your backend without rhyme nor reason. Just... because. :-))))
You forgot floppy-disk drives by the way. Gotta have a floppy-disk drive! LOL Reply
repoman27 - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkI hesitated to respond to your earlier comment because you're obviously trolling or just have no idea how any of this stuff works.
Thunderbolt is just a meta protocol for transporting PCIe and DisplayPort packets. Thunderbolt accessories are made by taking existing silicon that would normally be found on a motherboard or PCI Express card and hooking it up instead to the PCIe lanes provided by a Thunderbolt controller. For some applications an argument can be made that it is both cost effective and far more elegant to design a custom solution with the Thunderbolt controller and various ASICs on the same board. For many bleeding edge, industry specific, or legacy applications, simply exposing the PCIe lanes in an external chassis and connecting an existing PCI Express card is a far more reasonable option.
If you've invested a lot of time in writing CUDA code for NVIDIA Quadro, you're probably less impressed with the GPU options for the new Mac Pro. Furthermore, the first Macs to ship with Thunderbolt 2 are the new versions of the MacBook Pro with Retina Display, most of which rely solely on Intel Iris / Iris Pro and at best can be specced with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M. In fact most Macs with Thunderbolt could get a significant boost from a fairly inexpensive discrete GPU if only they had a conventional PCI Express card slot.
Thunderbolt PCIe expansion chassis will definitely play a more significant role as a transitional technology, with purpose built Thunderbolt accessories being the preferred goal in the long run, but they will always remain useful for certain scenarios. Reply
lin2log - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - link"If you've invested a lot of time in writing CUDA code for NVIDIA Quadro, you're probably less impressed with the GPU options for the new Mac Pro."
LOL... that bullshit CUDA drivel again! :-D Yeah, too bad the AMD cards "only" support OpenCL, right (along with every Nvidia board btw!)? You know, that OpenCL that kicks CUDA to THE WALL in terms of performance AND is both open-source and non-proprietary?! Oh gee, yeah. What a BUMMER that I'm not forced to use that Nvidia crap... LOL!
And there is NOTHING "reasonable" about spending an inordinate amount of money on some BS PCI chassis to merely run some legacy crap boards... pfffff...
You can't name me ONE PCI card that any relevant amount of people can't do without AND actually needs more than maybe eight lanes, in which case there is ZERO need for a slot... you lose, sorry! Reply
Maccer - Monday, November 25, 2013 - linksince you asked so nicely.. RED ROCKET-X
http://www.red.com/products/red-rocket Reply
lin2log - Saturday, December 07, 2013 - linkLOL... yeah, enjoy your RED-Rocket. What a bummer that it's already been announced that RED decode and encode will be optimized FOR THE NEW MAC PRO, making the Rocket completely SUPERFLUOUS and not worth the soldering iron it's made of.
My tip: catch a clue FIRST, then post. Reply
lin2log_gay_lover - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - linkYeah, loser. Catch a clue FIRST otherwise my lover lin2log will have some spicy words for you! Don't you just love how my lin2log can use such big words as superfluous? He's so smart and when he uses ALL CAPS, it makes him sound even smarter. He's my true love! Reply
lin2log_gay_lover - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - linkYeah, take that. lin2log just told you off. He is so smart and witty and that's why I love him. Thunderbolt is the way to go, so there! Brilliant! LOL! :-))))). ROFL. You are the best, lin2log!! Reply
repoman27 - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkA quick list of Thunderbolt PCIe external enclosures:
Bplus TH05 PCI-Express to Thunderbolt Adapter (discontinued thanks to Intel)
Magma ExpressBox 1T
Magma ExpressBox 3T
mLogic mLink
mLogic mLink R
Netstor TurboBox NA211TB Thunderbolt PCIe Expansion Enclosure
Other World Computing OWC Mercury Helios PCIe Thunderbolt Expansion Chassis
Sonnet Echo Express Thunderbolt Expansion Chassis for PCIe Cards
Sonnet Echo Express II Thunderbolt Expansion Chassis for PCIe Cards
Sonnet Echo Express Pro Thunderbolt Expansion Chassis for PCIe Cards
Sonnet Echo Express SE
Sonnet Echo Express III-D Desktop Thunderbolt 2 Expansion Chassis
Sonnet Echo Express III-R Rackmount Thunderbolt 2 Expansion Chassis
Sonnet Echo Express SE II Thunderbolt 2 Expansion Chassis
There are also a couple with built-in storage adapters:
Netstor NA211TB-LD Thunderbolt Storage and PCIe Expansion
Netstor NA333TB 3U 16-bay Thunderbolt Storage and PCIe Expansion Reply
HisDivineOrder - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkWhere are those Thunderbolt to PCIe GPU external boxes we've been promised for years?
Same place as the affordable peripherals using Thunderbolt, I guess. Reply
lin2log - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkOh yeah. Seeing what complete TURDS the TWO GPUs that come with each and every Mac Pro are, you'll just be hurting' for a third at an astronomical price point to get that "real pro" performance.
Thanks. That's really using your head! *applause*
But hey, at least you got your daily dose of mindless, no rhyme nor reason Apple hatin' out of the way, so not everything's lost. Be sure to come back tomorrow. Reply
lin2log_gay_lover - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - linkYeah, you tell him, lin2log! Don't you know AMD makes the best products? (Just like their CPUs). They really allow me to be my best. Just the other day, I got my top score on solitaire because my smokin' fast dual AMD Firepros. Also, stop being such Apple haters you guys! The Mac Pro is for professionals, that's why they named it the Mac Pro. Here's a tip: Don't buy a Mac Pro unless you're a Pro! I love you, lin2log! Reply
ThreeDee912 - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkInterestingly, on Apple's Mac Pro "Performance" page, they specifically mention a "a PCI expansion chassis connected via Thunderbolt" among other things if you scroll down a bit.
It appears Apple might be working with some other companies to get Thunderbolt 2 products out there, but they're not quite ready to release any specifics yet. Reply
ThreeDee912 - Saturday, October 26, 2013 - linkInterestingly, 10.9 enables IP over Thunderbolt, and people have been reporting speeds of over 700MB/s over Thunderbolt 1. This is without any special cards or extra equipment, except for maybe the expensive cabling. Corning is also finally ready with their 100m optical Thunderbolt cables, so length isn't an issue anymore. It would be nice to see a review of how well networking over TB works. :) Reply
nerd1 - Sunday, October 27, 2013 - linkWhy cant we just use a single big box that has 4-8 drive bays and enough slots for 3 GPUs, All powered by a single PSU? This all thunderbolt thing is so silly. Reply
lin2log - Saturday, December 07, 2013 - linkHmmmm... because you're too thick to grasp simple basics?
Yeah. Reply
lin2log_gay_lover - Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - linkC'mon guys, stop being Thunderbolt haters. Lin2log is the only one on here making any sense and that's why he's my true love!!! Thunderbolt is the best because it's plug and play and can transmit all kinds of secret data back and forth at super fast speeds. It is also a sexy sounding name, way sexier than PCIE. PCIE? What the heck? Only a PC turd would make up such a name. Thunderbolt is the best. That's why lin2log has a thunderbolt tattoo on his right bicep and a thunderbolt air freshener in his new Ford Fiesta, because he's sexy. So like lin2log just said, stop being too thick in girth because it will prevent you from grasping simple basics. Be like my true love, lin2log, who has a microscopic penis but knows how to use it so much better than all you hateful PC guys! Reply
romaz - Friday, December 20, 2013 - linkI was almost ready to bite. I almost bought into lin2log's rhetoric as some of his statements made sense despite his vitriolic and uncivilized tone (I notice that some diehard Mac worshippers often behave like this when they feel their beloved Macs aren't getting the respect they feel they deserve...kind of like how men with complexes about their short stature or small penises behave). I am neither a Mac hater nor Mac lover. I am fortunate to have a large hardware and software budget to work with each year and so when I evaluate and purchase equipment, I do so based on performance much more than cost. I own a 15 inch MacBook Pro with retina display that I believe to be the best laptop available today and is a credible platform for light "on the field" video editing on Adobe Premiere Pro CC and After Effects CC (sorry but FCP X is crap). I edit videos professionally and once upon a time used a custom modified 12-core Mac Pro that I now use exclusively as a very expensive and pretty to look at paperweight. As Apple has ignored their workstation market for several years now, I was forced to migrate to PCs for the bulk of my work as it is the only viable platform for editing large ProRes 444, Epic 5K/Red 4K and uncompressed files as far as I'm concerned. I was excited when the specs for the new Mac Pro were released and believed that Macs might become viable once again although like many who have made comments here, I had some concerns about lack of PCIE expansion slots and relying only on Thunderbolt 2 for connectivity. As anyone who edits complex codecs knows, some codecs require considerable CPU/GPU/memory horsepower (AVCHD, DSLR QT) while other codecs require high disk throughput (uncompressed files) while other codecs require both (ProRes 444, Epic 5K, Red 4K).
The new Mac Pro with Intel's 12-core Xeon E5-2600 and dual AMD D700s is no doubt a potent and very capable combo (I say this as one of the machines I edit on has this same 12-core Xeon and dual Firepro W9000 GPUs and compares favorably to another machine I use with an NVidia K6000 gpu). It's no secret that the Thunderbolt (version 1) RAID arrays currently available are not suitable for professional video editing as they have dismal throughput capabilities. I was hoping Thunderbolt 2 would be better. Unfortunately, Promise (despite its claim to being the "absolute fastest") posts no actual performance data which automatically makes me skeptical. Finally, a review has become available on CNET on the Pegasus2 R8 Raid 5 array (32GB) which is their fastest configuration and unfortunately, the results are very disappointing. Read throughputs are only 376.02 MB/sec and write throughputs are 361.92 MB/sec. These are paltry performance figures and I highly doubt a professional editor can edit a 4k production with this kind of an array unless they enjoy stuttering. Maybe Promise is using a substandard RAID card and maybe CalDigit, G-Raid, OWC or LaCie can come up with something better but if this is as good as Thunderbolt 2 gets, then only the clueless Mac worshippers need apply. Reply
AVentheusiast - Thursday, February 13, 2014 - linkAfter receiving a new Pegasus2 2/24 RAID DOA due to a defective Drive (Preinstalled by Promise Technology) and pathetic customer service / support from Promise Technology; I'd caution others from seeking any technology solution from Promise and searching elsewhere.
After my RAID reported errors almost immediately after installation (on a new MacPro 2013) I immediately contacted technical support. (First, I had to register the unit online; which automatically assigned a warranty expiration date based upon the date the unit shipped from their warehouse to the authorized reseller, not based upon the sales / ship date to me.) Regardless of the detailed information I provided regarding the multiple bad sector detections and subsequent designation of the drive as being bad (by the promise RAID management software) Tech support would not even begin cooperating until I generated a specific HTML based report via their software & uploaded it to Promise's Tech Support.
They did immediately (upon receipt of the report) acknowledge that the drive I reported as being DOA was indeed dead. In order to receive a warranty replacement I was informed that I could either return the defective drive; after which I would be shipped a replacement or I could provide a credit card # for them to place a hold of about $250.00 (on a drive that can be purchased on Amazon for $109 with free 2-day shipping) and that they would only provide complimentary GROUND shipping. If I wanted Next Day or 2-Day shipping; it would be at my expense. Considering that this was a defective unit shipped from Promise; I was astounded by the lack of support on a $3,500.00 piece of hardware. I provided the Credit Card # and finally received the replacement drive, only to discover that I was expected to pay the return freight on the defective drive.
This was bad enough; but part of my dissatisfaction is rooted in the fact that such a high-end RAID system was equipped (once again by Promise Technology) with consumer grade Segate Baracuda Drives. Considering the premium price they charge on storage size; one would think that they would at least use the higher grade Enterprise Grade drives from Seagate. In fact; at the time that tech support authorized the drive replacement, I asked if it would be a problem if I simply installed a 3TB Western Digital Red drive that I had on-hand as a spare for a separate RAID system. I was informed that the WD Red was not on their list of approved drives; and would not be supported. I later downloaded Promise Technology's complete list of approved drives for the Pegasus2 system and discovered that only 2 drives (in 3 TB capacity) were on the approved list; both of which were lower-tier consumer grade models. There is no indication that they ever tested any higher quality drives or what system requirements of the Promise2 RAID would limit full compatibility with any other drive; just a failure to reference any other models. My personal opinion / interpretation is that they leave the higher quality (higher priced) drives off of their list as a convenient excuse as to why they do not provide better drives in the first place. It seems counter-intuitive to produce an ultra high-speed storage system aimed largely towards video editing, then supply that system with anything other than enterprise level hard drives. Based upon this experience, I will NEVER purchase another product produced by Promise Technology. I have purchased products from a number of other manufacturers over the years and have never had such a poor experience with any other companies tech support staff. Reply


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The Mets will announce a trade today that will bring Angels outfielder Gary Matthews Jr. to New York. Reliable reliever Brian Stokes will head to Los Angeles, according to FoxSports.com.
The move will provide some insurance in center field after Carlos Beltran had surgery on his knee and will miss the first few weeks of the season. The question is, will Matthews start or will Angel Pagan? Well, that's what Spring Training is for.
The Angels will reportedly pay the majority of Matthews contract for 2010 and 2011 totaling $23 million. It's a hefty sum for a team simply trying to unload someone whom they don't have a spot for, but it's a practical steal for the Mets.
Matthews spent three seasons with the Angels, who used him less and less in that time span. Last season, he had four home runs and 50 RBI in 103 games. That was markedly less than his 2007 season when he had 18 home runs and 72 RBI in 140 games.
However, if you factor in the difference in the number of games played, his RBI production really hasn't diminished that much. While he's maintained a batting average around .250 in those three years, his home run and stolen base totals have not kept pace.
Still, even when Beltran comes back, the Mets will have a solid backup to give Jeff Francoeur and Jason Bay days off.

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Mollie's Rememberings
2 July 1871 — Lexington, Texas
Quoting Joseph's granddaughter, Ruby Lee Vance nee Nettles (1910-2003) . . . Young Mollie met a war veteran twenty years her senior, Joseph Helidorah NETTLES, and married him the next year [2nd July 1871]. They lived for a time in the Rockdale area with her relatives, Mr. and Mrs. Billy PERRY, and later with Mrs. Courtney VALENTINE NALLEY. Soon they moved to Lexington where her husband had a woodworking shop in connection with the HESTER blacksmith shop. Here her first child, Nona M., was born on May 14, 1872. . . . A deed for 100 acres of land in the Daniel Walker League, bought from J. C. Coker, was filed by J. H. NETTLES in Giddings on Oct. 12, 1882. Later adjoining land was bought and here the family grew up. This was in the Cole Springs community west of Tanglewood. J. H. NETTLES was not a well man due to hardships and exposure during the Civil War, and May 1, 1890 he succumbed to his illness. He was 58 years of age. . . .


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In this his sixth book, Septimus Heap, the seventh son of a seventh, is fourteen. He's been training now for four years with Marcia, the Extraordinary wizard, and he's ready for his ultimate test – Darke Week. He must enter the Darke alone for seven days and rely on his Magyk skills. This is the training that separates an ordinary wizard from an extraordinary one. His Dad is nervous, his Mother is nervous and Marcia is nervous, but Septimus is just ready to get on with it already!
When a concealed wizard unleashes a Darke Domaine, inviting the creatures of the Darke into the castle and into the wizarding tower itself, it will take Septimus and all of his friends to keep the Darke at bay. This time no one has to go looking for the Darke, the Darke comes out looking for them.
Another magic-filled adventure that explores friendship and forgiveness and just what it is that makes a wizard Darke. Once a wizard is Darke – can he/she ever turn back? I really liked getting to know some of Septimus's friends in this one – you get much more about Beetle the scribe, Princess Jenna, Septimus's brother Simon and even Marcia. Author: Angie Sage
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Library History
Part time security person Mike Burg, who was also a Liverpool police officer, spoke to the staff on the subject of problem patrons, our legal rights ( and theirs) and how to deal with various situations.
Computers were beginning to become popular at home and Fay, Jean Armour and Peggy Trinca traveled to the Fairport Public Library outside of Rochester, New York to see what they were doing in the way of public computing. The decision was made to begin to offer computing to the patrons of the Liverpool Library.
In May the library presented its annual operating budget to the voters at the same time as the LCSD budget propositions. The library's budget passed by a wide margin of 2162 to 1100. Judith Green was re-elected as a library trustee.
The Library Board of Trustees was expanded from five members to seven. Stuart Krupkin served as president. Newly appointed members Genevieve Pieniazek and Sondra Stock joined Sharon Fulmer, Judy Green, Hilda Watrous and Larry Dunstone on the Board.
The Summerbus program was shortened from its usual six weeks to four, from July 13 to August 4. Notary Public service became an official library service when the Board opted to pay the fees for new notaries, Peggy Trinca and Jean Armour, as well as for Elaine Heller who was scheduled to take the test and for Judith Rossoff who already had her Notary License.
In her annual message appearing in the Liverpool Salina Review Director Fay Golden reported that "as a conservation measure the Library Board had an energy management system installed to help control the use of electrical energy which heats, cools and lights the building. And thus try to control costs. The Mark Loveless Branch of the library was closed in June when the School District offices were moved to the Zogg School…."
A Citizen's Committee was formed to do a needs assessment. It consisted of the following Liverpool residents: Lee Lopez, Marie Cady, Jacquelyn Pfisterer, James Johnson, Agnes Benfey, Patrick DiDomenico, Freda Lewis, Richard Hartman and Charlotte Sherman. At the end of a year's work the committee issued a report recommending expansion of the facility.
October 16, 1981 marked the debut of the Apple II+ computer. Librarians began to offer "validation" classes where they explained how to handle a floppy disk and how to use a computer. Validation classes were held every evening and were limited to 30 people per session. All of the sessions were quickly filled for weeks ahead and several librarians took turns teaching. Over 600 people were validated in the short span from October 11 to December 1. The Apple computer was placed in the Children's Room and people had to sign up in advance to use it. Eventually the validation session was transformed into a slide-tape presentation.
The following staff were recognized for their achievements: Cheryl Cornell, Anita DePentu, Anna Foley, Virginia Henderson, Barbara Herrgesell, Martha Hopper, Lyn Krivanek, Lisa Murphy, Jean Armour, Judith Rossoff, Margaret Trinca and Dolores Turcotte.


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Are UGMA and UTMA Accounts Reported as Investments on the FAFSA?
Mark Kantrowitz
May 28, 2012
Tuesday, May 29 is National College Savings Day (i.e., May 29 is 5/29, a cute reference to 529 college savings plans). To commemorate the occasion, Mark Kantrowitz answers a question about saving for college.
After submitting our FAFSA for my son, we got back an EFC of 23207 on the SAR. I have been told by admissions that that is extremely high. The FAFSA says I have to include child support payments we received for him last year, even though the payments will end this year before the start of his freshman year. The amount was approximately $6,000. Also the FAFSA says I have to include UTMA accounts in net worth of investments. My son has a $30,000 UTMA account that he is listed as secondary on and his grandfather is primary. My son does claim the dividends on his personal tax return, but we haven't decided if we will use any of that money toward college expenses. I contacted the school and they tell me I can submit a change of income form through the school for the child support issue and that I don't need to include the UTMA information at all on my FAFSA because my son is not primary on the account. The FAFSA form instructions say quite the opposite. Can I make the necessary correction on the FAFSA that they (admissions) say? I am trying to not get myself in trouble. What should I do? — Dave B.
College admissions staff do not necessarily have the expertise to answer questions about financial aid. Address questions about financial aid to a college financial aid administrator, not a college admissions officer.
College admissions staff also do not have the authority to make adjustments to data elements on the Free Application for Federal Studnet Aid (FAFSA). Congress specifically delegated the authority to make adjustments only to the college's financial aid administrators.
Some colleges have set up one-stop shops that combine the customer service operations of admissions, financial aid, bursar and registrar. These streamlined hub operations can be convenient, saving the student from having to run around campus to visit multiple offices. They can answer simple questions about financial aid and hand out forms. But they don't always have the depth of expertise to answer technical questions about financial aid. Unfortunately, it isn't always possible to tell whether the answer to a question requires technical expertise. But if an answer conflicts with information available from other credible sources, such as the FAFSA instructions, and the front office staff are unable to resolve the conflict, ask to speak to a financial aid administrator.
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Sustainable Harvest's 'Let's Talk Coffee' Event
Hosted by Sustainable Harvest, 'Let's Talk Coffee 2011' brought together members of the specialty coffee industry
Each year, Sustainable Harvest, a specialty coffee importer, hosts Let's Talk Coffee, a 3-day event that brings the specialty coffee industry together to engage in conversations around sustainable production and supply chains, from seed to cup.
This year's event was hosted in El Salvador with the theme of "Redesigning the Coffee Supply Chain." Let's Talk Coffee 2011 focused on collective actions to minimize risk and ensure the future of the industry. Issues addressed included financial training, price risk management, quality calibration across the supply chain, technology innovations for smallholder producers, transparent business interactions, and income diversification techniques for farmers.
Paul Rice, CEO and Miguel Zamora, Director of Coffee Innovation and Producer Relations, spoke to attendees about Fair Trade USA's vision and plan for the future. You can watch the videos below to see what they had to say – you may want to have a Spanish speaking friend or Google Translate at your side – both video's are in Spanish.
Paul Rice, CEO, Fair Trade USA
Miguel Zamora, Director of Coffee Innovation and Producer Relations
For more information on Let's Talk Coffee 2011, visit www.sustainableharvest.com.


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Here is a link to a Test Page of mine...
Fluid Center & Fixed Right Column with Max-Min Sticky Footer
I have some questions about the Top Menu...
1.) Is there a way to make the Sub-Menu wider than the Main Menu Item?
For example...
[B]News[/B] | Business | Sports | Politics
Current
A wide News Sub-Item
An even wider News Sub-Item
If so, how?
2.) Is there a way to make the Main Menu "fluid" so that its width will adjust to fit each Main Menu Item?
News | Business | [B]Some really really wide Category[/B] | Sports | Politics
3.) Is there a way to make just the Sub-Menus "fluid" so that their width adjusts to the widest Sub-Menu Item?
When I was getting help with this several weeks ago, I recall some people saying that the Main Menu and Sub-Menu Items had to be fixed width and I find that hard to believe?!
1) Actually, since the sub-menu is most likely being AP'ed.. you have to give it explicit width #topMenu li ul {width:15em}, for example. if you want it to even be wider than 100% of its parent.
2) get rid of this #topMenu li {width:14%;}
3) not without some sort of .js help. The problem is the sub menu item ALREADY ARE stretching to the width of the longest LI. But because their contain UL can only go as wide as the last relatively positioned element which contains it (in other words: it's #topMenu li that limits 100% of #topMenu li ul) thus the lines SEEM to be wrapping around.
lemme retract something i said earlier. I was playing around with this some more. absolute positioning does cause shrink wrapping and it will cause a line break, by default, at the width of its position:relative ancestor. HOWEVER, if you set each sub-menu item to white-space:nowrap; you can achieve your desired results for menus, for all practical purposes
It is more difficult but you can have a fluid top and fluid submenu also.
This is a very old example that shows a fluid menu in action. As Dresden said the main trick is to use white-space:nowrap to pus the sub menu wide. The tricky part is then making all the other sub menus maintain that same width with rollover.
Here's a newer example (done last week in a similar forum question) but has a fixed width top menu but doesn't bother with full width rollovers.
Yep, that fixed my main problem which was that sub-menu items tend to be much wider than the top menu items.
The only problem now is that I have this annoying "jog" when I hover over a wider sub-menu item. :-/ (Because hover is bolded the sub-menu expands. How can I fix that?)
Paul, the white-space:nowrap solved my main issue.
Back to the "fluid" top menu, I didn't see from your code how you accomplish that?
Before you respond, let me clarify some things... (And admit I'm not entirely sure what I want?!)
Like most things in life, my Main Menu Items will not all be the same (width). And I think it looks weird to have different spacing between things, e.g.
Home | News | Investing & Markets | Sports | World Events | Opinion
Admittedly I should strive to keep things similar width for aesthetics, but that isn't always possible.
So I figured that have a fluid Top Menu would help with that.
However, to further complicate things, I've got this fancy Min-Max Layout that you helped me created. So that means that my Top Menu cannot be wider than 760px in its narrowest incarnation. (I don't expect this to be an issue, though.)
I can probably just "Word Craft" - is that the term Rayzur uses? - my Main Menu Items and find a sensible fixed width, but who knows?!
For the Sub-menu, however, I do want/like the "wider than the parent look", because Sub-Menu Items by there more specific nature tend to be wider.
(If I can jet that "jog issue" fixed, I'm probably good for now, yet I've beenl "bitten by the fluid bug"!!)
To make the top level fluid just remove the width that you have on the list and add some padding or margin to space them out a little.
For the drop down you should never really make elements bold on hover because they take up more space and cause a reflow. You may be able to add padding and then take it away to offset the difference but its still not a good idea.
#topMenu li ul li{
[B] padding:0 13px;
[B]#topMenu li ul li:hover{padding:0 5px}[/B]
#topMenu li ul li:hover a{
color: #FFF; /* White */
text-decoration: underline;
font-weight: 700;
[B] float:none;
For a Top Menu, which do you think is better? Fixed-Width or Fluid?
Would it be better for me to craft Categories that are the same length so that I don't need a fluid Top Menu?
Also, is it bad to have two-menu menu items like "Business Strategies"? (If I don't add borders around things, it probably looks confusing.)
So the extra emphasis is over-kill?
Oh, one last issue...
When you hover over Sub-Menu Items, the hover background is only as wide as the text?!
I tried making the LI's "block" with the hopes that would make the background shade the entire width, but that didn't work.
I gave you the fix to that in my last post because I noticed that happening
It depends if menu item lengths are similar or not. If they are pretty close then an equal width is ok but if some words are much longer than others then a fluid width with a margin separating them is probably better.[/quote]
As long as the gap between the other items is reasonable then it shouldn't look confusing but perhaps a border between items would help.
Not always , the main problem is the page re-flow when an element becomes bold. If you have a fixed width then this wouldn't matter as the width isn't dictated by the content.
I prefer the background to change color but not the bold effect though.
OOPS!! Sorry, I was up until 4:30a.m. again, so my brain is still waking up!
Thank you Paul!
Okay, I'll let it set for a while and come back to it later today and play around and see what looks best.
(It might help if I had my menu choices finalized!!)
Thanks as always, Paul!
I agree background color change and text color change looks very professional. I am opposed to hover bolding.
Your dropdown menus look very nice


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On Thursday, March 15, the Massachusetts Bar Association will once again co-sponsor a Walk to the Hill for Civil Legal Aid to advocate for increased funding for civil legal services throughout the commonwealth.
The 8th annual Walk to the Hill takes place from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. in the Great Hall at the Statehouse. Members of the bar will lobby legislators to increase legal services funding to better meet the need for assistance. Last year, more than 450 attorneys participated in Walk to the Hill and visited more than 70 members of the Legislature.
The annual event is co-sponsored by the MBA, the Boston Bar Association and the Equal Justice Coalition.
Increased funding for legal services and access to justice for all of our citizens continues to be a priority of the MBA. Due to a shortage of legal resources, civil legal aid programs are forced to turn away a majority of eligible callers who are seeking assistance in matters such as child support and custody, domestic violence, housing, employment and health care.
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Cobb wins duel with Price as Rays blank Tigers
Tampa Bay righty fires seven scoreless, while Guyer hits RBI triple
ST. PETERSBURG -- David Price returned to Tropicana Field on Thursday and pitched like David Price. Fortunately for the Rays, Alex Cobb pitched like Alex Cobb in a 1-0 win over the Tigers.
"Really lived up to the billing, or the advertising prior to the game," Rays manager Joe Maddon said. "It just happened we won. "... I talk about it all the time. In order to beat a good pitcher, you have to outpitch him. In a very small and perverse way, we did."
The Rays (62-65) broke a four-game losing streak while dodging a three-game sweep in this series and recording their American League-leading 16th shutout of the season. After the game, the team headed to Toronto for a three-game weekend series before going to Baltimore to play a four-game set.
For the first time in Price's Major League career, he stood on the mound at Tropicana Field wearing the uniform of an opposing team. And his former teammates managed to scratch out a run against him in the first inning when Ben Zobrist reached on a throwing error by Eugenio Suarez and scored on Brandon Guyer's one-out triple.
"That at-bat, I got to two strikes," Guyer said. "When I get to two strikes, I try to just spread out and watch the ball travel. And, if I get beat in, I get beat in. I just wanted to let the ball get there. If I don't have that approach, I probably roll over on that cutter, but I let it get deep and took it the other way."
In true Price fashion, he limited the damage.
First, Price struck out Evan Longoria swinging before striking out Wil Myers looking to end the threat.
"I was really looking add-on [runs] right there," Maddon said. "Runner on third, one out, four-five coming up, just because you know how tough David can be. And he definitely indicated that after we scored that run."
Price did not allow a baserunner after Guyer's triple, retiring the final 23 batters he faced.
"It's weird, I've never seen a win like that," Guyer said. "But when you've got a pitcher like Cobb pitching like he did, sometimes one run's all that matters. He pitched a great game. I'm glad I could get a big hit when the team needed it. But like I said, without Cobb doing what he did, it wouldn't have mattered. So hat's off to him."
Cobb posted six scoreless innings before showing everyone that Price wasn't the only escape artist in the building on Thursday. His rabbit-out-of the-hat moment came when Torii Hunter doubled to open the seventh and went to third on Miguel Cabrera's groundout. After intentionally walking Victor Martinez, Cobb struck out J.D. Martinez swinging before retiring Nick Castellanos on a flyout to center field to end the threat.
Cobb allowed no runs on two hits and two walks, while striking out six in seven innings to earn his ninth win of the season at the expense of his good friend, Price.
"Throughout the course of the game, I've got one run that I've got to protect as much as I can and that's all my focus," Cobb said. "Once you take a step back, you're removed from the game, you watch [Price] go back out there for the eighth and you just kind of laugh a little bit at the situation that's actually taking place.
"That's who David is. He's one of the best and the performance you saw on the field is awesome, but he'll always be remembered in this clubhouse for being the best teammate who has ever worn a Rays uniform for us."
Brad Boxberger started the eighth for the Rays and surrendered a one-out double to Suarez before Kevin Kiermaier made the play of the game.
On Tuesday night, the right-fielder made a costly miss while making a diving attempt in the 11th inning of a loss to the Tigers. That didn't stop him from going for it again on Thursday, when Rajai Davis hit a drive to shallow right. Just when the ball appeared like it would land and drive home the tying run, Kiermaier made the diving catch.
"I saw it in the air and I got a good read on it," Kiermaier said. "Nothing changed, really, this one just went in the glove, thankfully. You know, I'm willing to put my body on the line to help this team out and that's what I did right there."
Boxberger then struck out Ian Kinsler for the third out. Jake McGee pitched a scoreless ninth to pick up his 14th save of the season.
Price took his ninth loss of the season despite pitching a complete game, earning a nice ovation when he left the field. He allowed that his performance was as good of a game as he's pitched in his career.
"It's the least amount of hits I've ever given up," Price said. "We commanded the strike zone today for the most part, we were ahead and when we weren't ahead, we made pitches."
Maddon called Thursday's game "a game that we needed to win and we did." With 35 games remaining in the regular season, Maddon was asked what his team needed to do to remain in the hunt for a playoff spot.
"Two things," Maddon said. "Offensively, become a little more consistent scoring runs. And bullpen-wise, thicken it up. We can't rely on a couple of guys all the time. Get everybody in the mix. It has to work. And offensively, we have to be able to hit through some of our mistakes."
On Thursday, one hit proved sufficient.
Bill Chastain is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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In his blockbuster movies, he seems to be fearless, but what's the one thing Will Smith said terrifies him? Mice.
"I'm brave for my kids and strong, but if there's a mouse, Jada gotta deal with it," he joked. "Rats are okay, or a possum – but a mouse, ahh! Even now I'm getting nervous thinking about it."
Ellen asked, "Have you ever held a mouse?" -- leading him to look over his shoulder, expecting a scare.
"I'm good with snakes," he explained. "Willow has a boa constrictor… but mice? Whew!"
Looks like we know how to scare Will next time he's here!
In other news – Will's son Jaden explained he is not trying to emancipate himself from the Smith home. "The thing that people don't get is everything at his house is free, so I can get anything and everything I want at his house," he joked. "So I think I'm gonna be there for 20 or 30 more years!"
So where'd the rumor come from?
"I think I made a joke in Tokyo [at a press conference]," said Will. "My baby boy, he's never leaving me, ever!"


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TWO mothers whose sons died from heart conditions have launched a fundraising campaign.
Anne Soper, from Pickering, is marking the 10th year since the death of her son, Mike, by encouraging people to knit or sew mice to raise money for the Cardiomyopathy Association (CMA). Cardiomyopathy is a common medical cause of sudden death in people under 35s.
Anne is being supported by Tracy Bush, owner of Poppies tearooms in Burgate, Pickering, whose son Leon died from a similar condition in 2006. Mike was diagnosed with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy on the day he was born, in 1982.
"He was also profoundly deaf and developed scoliosis, but despite all this Mike enjoyed his life and by the time he died at the age of 21, he could drive his own adapted car and had just moved into a flat of his own," she said.
Anne said that because it was 10 years since Mike had died, she was keen to mark the anniversary by raising money and awareness for the CMA, which supports families affected by heart muscle diseases,. by asking people to make "mice".
"Mike's Mice is a fundraising project where people can give a small amount of time or money and the aim is for people to make mice, which can be sold for a minimum £1 donation," said Anne.
"A lot of people do marathons or parachute jumps to raise money, but I wanted to do something where a lot of people could do a little bit to raise funds.
"I am a keen knitter so that is where I started. My mouse finger-puppet knitting pattern takes a very small amount of wool and can be completed in minutes, as can the felt mouse. We need lots more people to make mice."
Tracy said: "We did not know anything about Leon's condition. He was a fit and well young man. The day he died the weather had been really hot and he had been swimming in a river and later sent me a text to say he wasn't feeling well," she said. "My phone wasn't working properly, so I thought I would talk to him in the morning but that was the last contact we had."
Tracy said the family had been left in utter turmoil.
"No parent should go through the death of a child and while you have to let them go and do their own thing, no one expects them to die in their sleep," she said.
"The pain never goes away, you gradually learn to live with it."
Tracy said it was Leon's death that prompted her to take on the tearooms. "It made us realise that if you have a dream or a plan in life you have to go for it," she said.
Tracy said that when Anne had first suggested the idea of Mike's Mice she thought it was a fantastic idea. "I loved it. It is something everyone can do and people have started to make all sorts of mice, including brooches."
Mice patterns are available at www.cardiomyopathy.org
Money and any mice made can be donated at Poppies tearooms, The Sun Inn, in Pickering, Gazette & Herald office, in Yorkersgate, Malton, or send money to www.michael.soper.muchloved.com or to the CMA, marked Michael James Soper Tribute Fund.


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National Dialogue on the Curriculum of Readiness for the 21st Century Librarian
ALA Annual Conference - Chicago, Illinois - Tuesday June 28, 2005
Plenary Session I: Preparing Leaders for 21 st Century Library and Information Service
Rhea Brown Lawson: Greg.
Gregory L. Reese: Good morning every one. Let's give Tracie Hall another round of applause for putting this together. [applause]
I'm very delighted to be here this morning. I'm sensitive and I understand the needs of my community. I'm Director of the East Cleveland Public Library. East Cleveland is probably one of the poorest urban communities in the country. I have three facilities. We serve a population of 28,000.
I'm very sensitive to the community and I understand my community. That's why I think it's so important that we recruit people of color to the profession.
I recently raised $3.6 million dollars, single handedly to add an 18,000 square foot addition to my main library.
$3.6 million over a course of about three years in a community that's battered with bad press. Our mayor recently went to jail but I was able to overcome all of that and raise this money. And my largest contributor was the Cleveland Foundation. They gave me over a $1 million. They said they gave it to me because they believed in my vision, they liked what I was doing, and I had great interpersonal skills.
They said, "If we didn't like you Greg, you wouldn't have gotten the money." So, they don't teach that in library school, but I'm getting to that.
I'm very sensitive and I understand the needs of my community. I had a situation where we set up a computer lab at one of my branches about six or seven years ago. The community was very disturbed because they thought that I was changing their traditional library to something else.
I received a letter in the mail. It said, "Mr. Reese, what are you doing to our library? Are you going to take away our story hour? We don't want our library to become an arcade. We don't want video machines in our library."
This is some really sad stuff, but it's real. They asked, "Did I live in the community? I live in the neighboring community, Cleveland Heights and we're going to picket the library. We're going to write the 'Plain Dealer' because we don't want no computers in our library.", unfortunately. But I decided that I understood that they were just intimidated by the technology.
I called a town meeting as call it. We had about 60 residents come in. I talked to them about the importance of the technology and I had to explain to them: when you go to the bank and you hit the buttons, you see people hitting the buttons there. That's computer technology. You've got to have it.
So after about 20 minutes of talking to them I really did win them all over. They signed up for library cards and they enrolled in the classes that we were offering.
In our new building, we have an additional 30 computers and thanks to Bill and Melinda Gates we have received over $300,000. I'm very sensitive and I understand the needs of my community.
Another example of that was when I visited Kirk Middle School in East Cleveland. We have some tough youngsters in my community and sometimes they are not too friendly to outsiders. But I took my recruitment video that I produced in about 1996 or 1997: "To be a Librarian." So I was armed with that.
But they were very impressed with the presentation and one of the kids said, "Mr. Reese, how can I be like you? How can I do what you do? How much money do you make?" I told him how much money I made. They said, wow, that's all right.
Then they said, "Do you have to go to college to do what you do?"
I explained to them. I said, "Yeah, I had to go to college."
They said, "Well, tell us about it."
I said, "Well, first of all,"-- I've forgotten the kid's name -- "you've got to finish middle school, junior high school. OK?"
He said, "OK."
I said, "Then you got to go to high school and you got to finish high school."
He says, "OK."
"Then you have to go to college for four years. Then you have to enter the masters program to become a professional librarian like I am."
The guy said, "Aw, forget it. I'll never make it. It's too drawn out."
It's an interesting thing because I have talked to Tracy about this before. I strongly feel that we need to consider a four year undergrad library science program. Mike Havener [sp] and I have talked about this for years. And I think it's extremely important, because I think... I don't know if we can contain all the needed information in a 36 hour graduate course.
So, personally, I'd like to see a four year program and if you would like to be a director or dean or something, we still would have the masters' level available to you.
I've noticed when I've tried to recruit that I find that many of our schools are doing different things all across the country. It's very disturbing to me that we do have some four year library science programs and we have a 36 hour programs. I think we need to all be on the same page across the country, just as other professions.
If you are going to be a lawyer, you follow a certain path and you have to pass the bar. If you are going to be a doctor, you have to do the same thing. I don't understand why we are not doing the same thing in library and information science. I think it's very important. We confuse our potential recruits the way we have things aligned at this point.
And then I look at admissions and I've had a tough time getting some African Americans in library schools in Ohio, simply because they needed a 3.3 GPA and 10 or 20 years ago they had a 2.8 when they graduated from undergrad. So they could not get in the program.
The GRE, they didn't do well on the GRE. So they couldn't get in the program. This is after I've written letters of recommendation. I talked to the dean at Kent one time. I said, "What's the purpose of the GRE? What's the purpose of the GRE?" Someone in the room tell me what is the purpose of the GRE? Why do we require potential students to take the GRE?
It's been very sensitive but I'll tell you, I've talked to the dean in my state and I asked them, "Well, suppose this potential student just took a library course, not being enrolled in the program and if they did well and achieved a B or above, would you let them in the program?"
He says, "Yeah." I thought that was very gracious. That's a great thing to do. Also, with the GPA, I figure if a person has been in the profession, has been working as a para-professional. They have letters of recommendation. We should let them in the program also.
And as far as the curriculum is concerned, I'll tell you, I'm in my 30th year in this business and I've learned a lot. The fund raising aspect of it has just been phenomenal for me to raise $3.6 million in three years but you know we are seeking alternative funding today.
I think the library schools need to prepare our potential students or those who are coming into the profession in areas of fundraising, networking, developing interpersonal skills, being political, dealing with the politics of the community, lobbying our legislatures, fiscal management. I'm doing all of that stuff every day and I'm loving it.
Library science is a career, but it is also... it needs to be treated as a business. I think if we plan to maintain our status as forerunners in the information business that we really need to take a close look at making changes in several areas.
Thank you very much.
Rhea Brown Lawson: Thank you, Greg, for those insightful comments.


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Reg Smith is a character in Grand Theft Auto: London, 1969 and Grand Theft Auto: London, 1961. Reg is the brother of Lenny Smith, with Lenny becoming an enemy of Albert and Archie Crisp. The protagonist is sent to find Lenny and finds his location from Reg. The protagonist then kills Reg and his brother Lenny.
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SAVANNAH, Ga. – After day two of the SCAD Invitational, the Saint Leo men's swim team continues to hold onto fourth place with 252 points, while the women dropped to seventh, compiling 96 points after Friday afternoon's final rounds.
The men's "A" relay team of Gabe Keown, Antonio Roki, Chris Canene, and Michael Cozzi earned second place in the men's 200-Yard Freestyle Relay. They foursome teamed up again later in the afternoon in the 400-Yard Medley Relay, coming in at 3:27.49, good for third overall.
Canene earned a top finish in the men's 200-Yard Breaststroke, finishing first with a time of 2:04.67, beating his closest competition by four seconds.
Keown picked up second in the 100-Yard Butterfly event, touching at 51.78, and also earned a third place finish in the 50-Yard Free, coming in at 21.72.. Other notable swims throughout the afternoon go to Cozzi, who touched third in the 200-Yard Freestyle event with a time of 1:43.28.
For the women, junior Sandra Stopczynska came in second in the 200-Yard Breaststroke, finishing with a time of 2:23.85.
The Lions conclude their road trip to Savannah, Ga. on Saturday, where they will take to the starting blocks for the third and final day of the SCAD Invitational. For the latest news, updates, and information on the Saint Leo swim team, visit SaintLeoLions.com.


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Surat al-Muminun, Verse 106
They will say, 'Our Lord, our miserable destiny overpowered us. We were misguided people.
That is the reason why some people want Muslims to weep. They say, "Weep much"! UNBELIEVERS ARE UNHAPPY PEOPLE. THEIR UNHAPPINESS LEADS THEM NOT TO HAVE FAITH AND THEIR UNBELIEF LEADS THEM TO BE UNHAPPY. THIS IS A CLOSED SYSTEM . So in referring them, Almighty Allah says: "Let them laugh little and weep much". So, some of our Muslim brothers say to other Muslim brothers, "Never laugh but weep much." What is mentioned in the verse? "Let them laugh little and weep much." Allah mentions this as a peculiarity of the unbelievers. So why do you want Muslims to weep? Why do you want them to be unhappy? Let the Muslims be happy, joyful and glad. ALLAH WANTS MUSLIMS TO BE HAPPY.
When mentioning people in heaven, Allah states that they have the joy of faith and light on their faces in the verse: "You will recognize in their faces the radiance of delight." ALLAH APPRECIATES JOY.
Surat al-Muminun, Verses 112-113
He will say, 'How many years did you tarry on the Earth?' They will say, 'We tarried there for a day or part of a day. Ask those able to count!'
That is to say a sleeping time. It is mentioned as "a day", in other words 24 hours. People here presume that they have simply slept and then woke up. They explain their sincere opinion; hundreds or thousands of years have passed but they could not distinguish.
Surat al-Muminun, Verse 115
'Did you suppose that We created you for amusement and that you would not return to Us?'
People say Allah exists but there is no religion. In other words they say "the world is created for amusement." So, "Did you suppose in that way?" asks Allah. " Are you created for amusement?" He asks.
Surat al-Muminun, Verse 117
Whoever calls on another god together with Allah, has no grounds for doing so at all and his reckoning is with his Lord. Truly the unbelievers have no success.
So Allah says "...whoever calls on another god" in other words, who believes in Darwinism and materialism, "...his reckoning is with his Lord. Truly the unbelievers have no success." Has the world succeeded as a Darwinist and materialist place? No! They have been at pains. All of Europe has run into debt; people have been ruined everywhere. The Islamic world has been at pains because of Darwinism.
Surat al-Muminun, Verse 118
Say: 'My Lord, forgive and be merciful! You are the Best of the Merciful.'
This is a prayer of Muslims. They call to Almighty Allah. What a beautiful prayer this is .2013-05-11 18:31:11


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Planning to have kids and I need tips on gentle parenting.
Planning to have kids and I need tips on gentle parenting.
That's great that you want to adopt a gentle parenting style. The underlying philosophy about gentle parenting is to respect your babies and children (and they will grow up respecting you) and to follow what is naturally the best way of caring for them.
For most mums and dads who follow gentle parenting this involves all or some of:
- Breastfeeding: nature's perfect milk for little stomachs - designed to be easily digested and to give the baby increased immunity from infections and lifelong health benefits (e.g. reduced risk of obesity). It is also an unsurpassed way for mum and baby to bond and to emotionally and socially support their little one.
- Baby wearing: using a baby carrier to keep your baby close to you and to bond with your baby. Baby wearing is known to reduce the risk and severity of postnatal depression. It also helps to calm babies and aids their communication skills because they have an excellent view of their parent's face.
- Co-sleeping: safely sharing a bed with your baby so that you can easily comfort them and breastfeed on demand through the day and night.
-Gentle discipline: as your baby becomes a child continuing to treat them with respect and explaining to them what is safe to do rather than just imposing rules for their own sake or using punishment.
Every area of parenting can become one which follows a gentle approach. Respecting your baby and not being swayed by societies expectations/ parenting methods are key in this approach. But really if you just do what comes naturally and follow your maternal instincts you are very likely to be using gentle parenting!
As you can probably tell it's something I am passionate about as I believe it leads to happy, healthy and active kids.
Best wishes,
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Together with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, Dream On Me Inc. is recalling two of its products because of child safety concerns. This article includes details about both products and contact information for the company, if you need more information.
First, The company is concerned about the Dream On Me Bath Seats. About 50,000 are being recalled because they do not meet federal safety standards for stability. The seat could tip over, posing a drowning hazard for babies. One 12 month old baby girl nearly drowned, but did not need medical treatment.
The recall includes all Dream On Me bath seats. Some of the seats have a Dream On Me label under or on the rear of the bath seats. They were sold at small retail stores and online retailers including Amazon.com and Wayfair.com from July 2012 through September 2012 for between $25 and $40.
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|Green with orange tray, orange with beige tray or yellow with green tray
|Ultra 2 in 1 Infant Bath Tub & Toddler Bath Seat
|Solid pink, blue or white body and a blue or pink bottom
|Niagra Baby Bath Seat
|White or blue body with a green, pink or orange insert
Consumers are warned o stop using the recalled bath seats immediately and contact Dream On Me to receive a free replacement bath tub.
Bed Rails Also Pose Danger
About 900 Dream On Me Bed Rails are also being recalled. Federal regulators say the bed rail can separate from the mattress, allowing a child's body to become trapped in the gap, posing a risk of suffocation or strangulation. No injuries have been reported.
Dream On Me Bed Rails have a white metal frame covered by blue or pink mesh fabric and metal arms that extend about 11/2 feet under the mattress. The bed rails measure 17 inches high x 41 inches long. "Dream on Me" is printed on the top rail.
They were sold at small independent stores and online at Amazon.com and Wayfair.com from September 2011 through May 2012 for between $15 and $30. Parents should also stop using the bed rails immediately and contact Dream On Me for a refund.
The products were made in China. Dream On Me Inc. is based in South Plainfield, New Jersey.
Consumer Contact: Dream On Me; toll-free at (877) 201-4317 from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. ET Monday through Friday, or online at www.dreamonme.com and click on "Recalls" for more information.
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Immerse yourself in the city's rich history of music and theatre. Whichever corner of the city your Dublin hotel sits, you're likely to come across traditional Irish music and dance. Head to the Temple Bar area to find pubs alive with live bands and impromptu dancing. For art lovers, the Irish Museum of Modern Art is not to be missed. While top contemporary art collections and changing exhibitions can be found at Dublin City Gallery The Hugh Lane. You can also dip into Irish history at Kilmainham Gaol, a former prison, to discover the place that held many of Ireland's political prisoners during the Country's path to independence.
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Strawberries?!Situation puzzles (sometimes called lateral thinking puzzles) are ones where you need to ask lots of yes or no questions to figure out what happened in the situation. These are good puzzles for groups where one person knows the puzzle and answers the questions.
Once upon a time, a couple centuries ago, in a cold, harsh winter, three men were about to be executed. It was customary in their land to feed everyone who is about to be executed a last meal, consisting of whatever they want.
So, the first man says, "I am an old, poor fellow, and my whole family was vegetarian except for me. Therefore I would like to eat one last chicken before I die". His wish was granted, but right when he finished the last bite, the executioner killed him on the spot.
The second man asks for a pie. "My family is extremely poor, and we have never had the money to buy sweets, or anything of any sort of delicacy. So before I die, I would like the chance to taste a pie, the food I have been dreaming about for years."
The executioner agreed, but right when the poor man finished the last piece, he was also killed on the spot.
Finally, it was the third man's turn. Without even taking a second to think, he said "I would like some strawberries".
The executioner burst out laughing. "I'm sorry", he sputtered, "I just can't understand why you would want to eat STRAWBERRIES of all things right before you die. Out of all the delicious foods you could have picked, why strawberries?"
What was the third man's reply which allowed him to live?
Answer"As you may have noticed, it is winter right now, so strawberries aren't in season. Therefore, I have every right to wait at least another 6 months for them to be harvested before you kill me."
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