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I think the names should be changed to original names. In fact the proper way to spell Juugo is Juugo and not Jugo. He certainly doesn't look like juice to me. If not doing that then macrons should be added since that is more correct than the double uu. I highly doubt a lot of people will post in this thread. I see no good reason why the names are incorrect. Drunk Samurai 19:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- My view is simple, the doube "u"s or the "ou" are cumbersome at best. Unneeded at worst. "ū" and "ō" are just as appropriate as "uu" and "ou" without the unneeded bulk.--TheUltimate3 01:02, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please state your stance correctly. You are mixing two different debates together which is going to confuse people who try and get into the discussion. Also it is not a fact that "Juugo" is the correct spelling. It's romanji, there is no real correct spelling unless you are using kanji. "Juugo", "Jugo", and "Jūgo" are ALL correct ways to write the word depending on what style of romanization you use and what your goal is. "Jugo" is also the officially given English spelling. The fact that if we were to use Juugo, then Hyuuga would also be used instead of Hyuga, which some people may disagree with, is also being left out.
- There are two parts to this. A) You want to use Japanese names instead of English names. B) You want to use wāpuro rōmaji for romanization instead of revised hepburn.
- For those without background:
- Romanization is a technique for taking Japanese Kanji and representing it using the latin alphabet (ie: The ABC...XYZ we use).
- Now there are a few different variants of romanization in wide use,
- revised hepburn; used by Wikipedia, other encyclopedic sources, and currently used here. — it would stand to reason that Viz is using revised hepburn when they create a translated character name.
- modified hepburn; I've made a slight mistake about this one. I thought that it was what was being used by fandubs, however fandubs actually use wāpuro rōmaji.
- and wāpuro rōmaji; used primarily by fandubs, other fansites, and blogs.
- Now to help people understand the difference. The primary difference between these three forms of romanization is in how they represent long vowels like the long o and the long u.
- In revised hepburn long vowels are indicated using macrons. So a long o is represented as ō and a long u is represented as ū.
- In modified hepburn long vowels are indicated by doubling the letter used for the vowel. So a long o is represented as oo and a long u is represented as uu.
- I haven't actually used wāpuro so I don't know the exact rule. But to make it simple a long o is represented using ou and a long u is represented as uu.
- To get on with the point, and make a long story short, I'll put in my input.
- Putting the topic of wāpuro rōmaji and revised hepburn aside. The romanization used in the anime world isn't even a standardized form of wāpuro rōmaji. Wikipedia does use a variant of revised hepburn rather than strait revised hepburn, however it is standardized, and even if you only stick with revised hepburn 99.99% of the time nothing in the naming conflicts.
- By taking a look at how the English dubs and translated Manga spell character names — Hyuga, rather than Hyuuga. And Choji rather than Chooiji or Chouji — it would be reasonable to state that in the canonical live naruto universe, revised hepburn is used primarily as the standard in converting Japanese character names into English names. From my viewpoint, it's a good idea to stick to revised hepburn rather than wāpuro rōmaji, because it makes us compatible with Wikipedia, as well as the official translations. And also does give a — in my opinion — more professional stance of the site.
- Now from what I've seen from the contributions of users, and the attitudes of active editors around, it looks as if the community is leaning towards the goal of becoming a well recognized source for information about naruto, in other words and Encyclopedia. Preference to official English and romanization under a standard which is commonly recognized as one used in professional sources vs. preference to romanization and names used by fan communities without a standard, is a borderline. That borderline is what strongly separates whether the public regards the Narutopedia as an Encyclopedia, or just another fansite.
- Just judging from the early on community, and what I see in the current community. For quite some time, the Narutopedia has been a information source focused on the well read naruto fans contributing to a wiki who's target is providing information to the English speaking North Americans who have not yet gotten to a recent point in the series. This is why for quite some time, we have preferred English names, and change eastern Japanese romanized names into western order to avoid confusing the readers. As well, this is why we chose to literally translate Jutsu names, rather than simply using the romanization.
- ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Sep 13, 2008 @ 03:54 (UTC)
I would like to see proof that Jugo is the correct English spelling. Viz is no where near that part. You made that up just to try to make yourself look right. Also you say that it wouldn't be fair to Naruto fans in North America. You do realize that most people who read Naruto edited are 8-12 right? They wouldn't even care to look it up. Drunk Samurai 05:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please allow me to add my 2 cents in this discussion. Revised Hepburn (ō, ū, zu, ji for おう, うう, づ, じ) is the most common way of romanising Japanese. It's used not only by Viz, but by encyclopaedias and other authoritative publishings worldwide. If there ever was an official way of romanising Japanese, it would be with Revised Hepburn (interestingly enough, the Japanese government actually uses Kunrei-shiki [ô, û, du, zi]).
- Revised Hepburn is by far the most professional way of romanising Japanese.
- However, one could argue that the only authority on how to romanise the names of the Naruto characters is the author of Naruto himself. Kishimoto, as you might now because of the Pain-Pein debate, gives romanisations of the names of his characters in the databooks. He doesn't use revised Hepburn, though, nor does he use Kunrei-shiki. He uses Wāpuro (ou, uu, zu, ji). The same system used by most fan translators.
- Therefore this debate can go both ways, depending on which authority to use. Personally, I'm not sure which one I like best. In everyday writing, I use Wāpuro, because it's the easiest and most true to the Japanese writing, but it's also non-standard and unprofessional. When I do 'official' translating, I generally use revised Hepburn, but I can't stand it when people don't write the macrons (which I also consider non-standard and unprofessional and most of all lazy). I guess there should be some kind of consensus on this to solve this problem.
- Oh, by the way, since we're on the topic of rōmaji any way... it's rōmaji, not romanji. There is no n in it ^^ --ShounenSuki 12:27, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well Suki. Again you manage to post right before I post my own comment and now I can't do it agian. Great Job Breaking It, Hero. (Potal humor ^_^)
- Anyway on topic, I agree with Dantman said about using the Revised Hepburn. It's used on other Encyclopedias, Viz, Wikipedia, ect--TheUltimate3 12:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't keep track of which characters have appeared in the dub, I made a mistake with Jugo. However by Viz's current standard for romanization Jugo will be the correct spelling. But my note on English was a mistake, not malice, please don't assume malice, as they say assuming makes an ass of you and me. Wiki are founded on assuming good faith.
- As for the Naruto Demographic you state, what kind of citation do you have for that? You're assuming a false demographic. I know dozens of people around here who watch and read naruto who are well over 12. Around here naruto itself is on later on during the night in the adult programming timeslot. The naruto demographic is not 8-12, people who come here to read about naruto are a wide variety of ages. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Sep 13, 2008 @ 17:41 (UTC)
Well we should go by the style Kishimoto himself uses. That means its what he wants. What the original author wants should always be used. I said people who read EDITED Naruto are more kids than teens/adults. There are lots of teens and adults who watch Naruto. They are mostly fans of the original series however. I know a 52 year old woman who is a fan of Naruto. I do know a lot watch the dub but they also watch the original series too. Drunk Samurai 18:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- While its true Kishimoto uses the Wāpuro, what he is doing in and of itself, is well, unprofessional in an English perspective. As such because in TL,DR (To Long, Didn't Read) difference seems to be the writing of long vowels, from an English speaking perspective, Spelling word Jugo is more fitting to the language than writing Juugo, and it a hell of alot simpler than spelling a word Jūgo (as I do not know how one would go around and use the ū, I myself had to copy and paste it).--TheUltimate3 19:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Which is why, we have the charinsert box below the edit page with a few dozen hard to type characters ;). We could probably move the useful characters up into a separate section if you wanted. At a point in the past, I was trying to work on a bit of a helper tool. Something where you could press a keycombo with a selected u or such, have a bit of guides show up, and select a ū which it would convert the u to. Though, that would be the reason we use macrons in the translation template, but not in regular text (though, we do normally use the macron in Shippūden). Though it does work out well, 99.99% of the time the romanization we use without the macron is what ends up in the English Dub, and so we don't need to go and rewrite a pile of names.
- Actually, I know a number of teenagers who don't watch the original series. There are a fair number of people (not just kids) who can't keep up with subtitles, so they just watch dubs and wait for series to be translated. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Sep 14, 2008 @ 03:14 (UTC)
My point was you have no proof they would be confused if we used the correct names used by Kishimoto himself. Drunk Samurai 04:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- When did I say they would be confused? That's yet another assumption. I said things along the lines of; We've been targeting North Americans who don't keep up with the series — dub watchers or people who don't watch Naruto actively. And also using official English names on an English wiki, and using accepted standards for romanization, is more professional than using unofficial romanizations spread throughout the net. And where did Kishimoto say "Juugo" is the spelling? Sure, if you have a scan of an official romanization, we can fix our romanization to fit. But without that kind of source, we have to regard "Juugo" as wāpuro spread by fandub translators, and "Jugo" as revised hepburn which is what we have stuck with for some time now. We might also need to check a few other pages, I'm not precisely sure what romanizations are used in the databooks, depending on what they are that statement could be reversed. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Sep 14, 2008 @ 08:22 (UTC)
You ignored what I said. I said that most people are young children who watch the show and don't watch the original. I know a lot of people who watch both the dub and original. You have no basis to say that everybody who watches the dub watches the original. Jugo is not correct and you know that. You just want it because you think Viz is a God.
- You enjoy testing my patients do you. It is you who is ignoring him. It's already been established that Kishimoto is using the unprofessional Wāpuro Japanese spelling of the kanji. We are an English speaking Wiki, we use English spelling. Therefore, we use the revised hepburn. So Jugo IS correct, cause in English we wouldn't be using two "u"s or the ũ (hey it worked Dant!), we use Jugo. And before you say it, no I don't watch the English anime or read the English manga, and I still stand here and say as an speaker of English, we should use the revised hepburn.--TheUltimate3 18:30, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Kishimoto is the correct one. It doesn't matter what Viz uses. Anything that Kishimoto says makes it the real version. It doesn't matter if he uses it incorrectly what he uses is right. I suppose you'll say that Kishimoto should have no say now? If you ever notice Viz doesn't even ask mangaka. They just make up their own terms and spellings for characters or just change them outright.
- And that my friend (and I use the term loosly) is globalization. Due to the way marketing works, in Japan 重吾 is the correct way. Then when they want to use Romaji, its Juugo. Then over seas, the revised hepburn is up and its Jugo.
- And I'm gonna assume you really don't have an idea how the translation business works. The mangaka isn't in charge, his employers are. They are the real decision makers. Kishimoto's employers at Shounen Jump signed a deal with Viz, and let Viz do whatever they needed to sell their product to the Americans. What is Kishimoto's involvement in all this? Making the comics.
- But seriously though from what I've gathered from you, it seems your entire argument is built on the idea that Viz Media is an evil baby killing organization out to destroy the precious work of Kishimoto, and you see yourself as a knight protecting something you cherish. Noble, but woefully ineffective. You are speaking with an obvious bias and not taking in the full picture of what HAS happened in the past (the use of the revised hepburn for Hyuuga to Hyuga) and the language difference between two different countries (the use of doubling long vowels as opposed to simply saying it).--TheUltimate3 18:51, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Del Rey asked Mashima Hiro what the correct names for Fairy Tail were. If you notice Viz never did that for any of their manga. I seriously would not call this an encyclopedia if the admins choose to use the incorrect names not used by Kishimoto. Its using false information that any other wikia would not use. Drunk Samurai 19:01, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Cause Viz is a juggernaut that doesn't have to. They went straight to the bosses and that's it. Oh oh dear Christmas, have you even BEEN to Wikipedia? I edited there for a year, and I gotta tell ya. Gai, Pein (after a MUCH heated debate), Hyuuga, Juugo, and Chouji are all wrong there. You go there and change them to those, I can tell you this now, in about five minutes, Guy, Pain, Hyuga, Jugo, and Choji will all be back to normal.--TheUltimate3 19:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
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- Eh? Not an encyclopedia? That's a pretty controverted statement... Last time I checked Wikipedia was recognized one of most professional online community driven encyclopedia projects... And their stance on the name is pretty obvious. However I am getting pretty tired of you putting words in my mouth. I really don't care about Viz, they're not Gods, I just care about citable information. Facts are things you can derive from official canonical sources. And whether you like it or not, the fact is that Viz is the officially delegated source of facts for the English version of Naruto. So unless you've got more information to put into a discussion other than the same stuff you've been repeating over and over. Or some other users actually join in on this discussion, there is little point to this continuing. The current state of this is just like what we've dealt with many times in the past. A single user on a vendetta against a decision that the rest of the community has made, simply because they don't like it personally. This discussion isn't helping the wiki, and this isn't a very civil discussion, traditionally editors here like to avoid any conversation where one of the sides will attack them, which may be why only the 3 most active users have bothered to reply to this discussion.
- ^_^ Oh btw... for some fun facts here's a graph of a comparison. We have more recorded traffic than naruto-kun.com, and over the past while, our level has grown and is now starting to rise above leafninja.com's recorded traffic. ^_^ I wonder if we can ever grow enough to get more traffic than narutofan.com. That would be interesting, and definitely not impossible if we get our self inside of a magazine. (Oh ya, don't know if I mentioned it. But one of wikia's founders Jimmy Wales has offered to help any Wikia wiki get an article about them published in any magazine they feel would be good). Oh right, as for more naruto stats take a look here. Apparently 84% of our viewers are 12-34. And 16% of our audience is Asian, that's small compared to the 52% of Caucasians, but above average in comparison with other types of sites. Oh, and most viewers come from the US, followed by Germans, then people from the Philippines, and then Canadians. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Sep 14, 2008 @ 19:46 (UTC)
I said that kids watch the edited dub and read the edited manga more than teens and adults. Teens and adults mostly watch the original version or both. Statistics like that are invalid because they never factor in which ones watch which version. Saying that it would be unfair to the dub fans is not true at all. Most of the members probably don't even know about this thread. They would need to see a link on their talk page or else a direct link here for a discussion on the main page. Drunk Samurai 20:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- You're twisting my words yet again. I said nothing about the naruto demographic. I just posted a set of interesting statistics to make the conversation more enjoyable to everyone. And the stats you give have no bearing either, unless you can provide a valid citation behind them instead of just making another personal assumption. As for other editors, we do have more who actively watch the recent changes. Editors like Jace and Gojita actively watch the recent changes, and as such they normally pick up on discussions. It's abnormal when one of them or a few other editors don't chime in on a discussion that has been around for a few days. Also, btw... topics like this take first note on the Community portal. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Sep 14, 2008 @ 20:19 (UTC)


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I am using the following code from Rachel Andrew book to style my horizontal menu. I want to make all the boxes of the menu same width so they don't depend on the length of the word itself e.g now box containing word "blog" is shorter than box containing "contact" etc.
font-size: 90%;}
display: inline;}
list-style: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; padding-top: 1em;}
padding: 0.4em 1.3em 0.4em 1.3em; color: #FFFFFF; background-color: #B51032; text-decoration: none; border: 1px solid #711515; margin-left: 4px; margin-right: 4px;
color: #FFFFFF; background-color: #711515;
Thank you
On your LI element all you simply need to do is add a width but you will need to change the display property to inline-block as you can't use height and width on inline elements:
#navigation li{
display: inline-block;
*display: inline; /* IE6+7 Fix */
width: 100px;
Or you could just float the list items too:
#navigation li{
float: left;
width: 100px;
You will need to be careful when using a floated element as unless you clear the parent all child elements that occur after may collapse into the element above.
Hi Chris,
Forgive the small correction but the IE6/7 fix cannot be in the same rule as it won't work.
It needs to be exactly like this:
#navigation li{
display: inline-block;
width: 100px;
#navigation li{*display: inline; /* IE6+7 Fix */}
If you place the display:inline in the same rules as the display:inline-block then the element never gets haslayout because the display:inline-block is ignored and only display:inline is seen.
If you separate the rule as above then what happens is that IE6/7 see the display:inline-block and apply haslayout to the element (this is probably the only real use of display:inline-block). In the next rule you set the element to display:inline and in IE6/7 an inline element that is in haslayout mode behaves just like inline-block (this is probably a throwback to ie5 which allowed dimensions on inline elements by default).
The display:inline-block is a haslayout trigger for both inline and block elements which is why you can't use some of the other haslayout triggers. zoom:1.0 is also a haslayout trigger for both inline and block elements and you can can actually create an inline-block element in IE6/7 without using inline-block. All you do is make the element inline and apply haslayout suitable for an inline element.
p{display: inline;zoom:1.0 /* IE6+7 Fix */}
Thierry Koblentz does it. He adds zoom to keep the haslayout.
navigation {
font-size: 90%; }
font-size: 90%; }
#navigation li{ display: inline; }
#navigation ul{ list-style: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; padding-top: 1em; }
Bleh, nasty old code. So there's a wrapping-something called #navigation, and then it sets font size, and then it sets li to display inline but doesn't make the anchors some kind of block?
#navigation a:hover { color: #FFFFFF; background-color: #711515;
and then setting :link and :visited styles... instead of the easier and more powerful "a" styles... and then only :hover? Where's :focus??
Which is basically what I said in my second example.:)
You'd have to do this though:
#navigation li{
*display: inline;
I'm not a fan of the *property hack as its invalid (unlike * html) but it is neater in this case where it targets ie6 and 7.
Thierry likes it because he feels the * html/*+html rules are too specific (in that they are more specific than the original rule offered to other browsers).
I've never run into needing to override * html rules with anything more than another * html rule myself though. But I don't work on ginormous sites.


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A Messy Transition (Part 2): Windows XP, Vista, and the 2GB Barrierby Ryan Smith on 7/19/2007 12:00 PM EST
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CZroe - Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - linkI believe that SLI will double the address ranges reserved for video memory and I believe that it would make testing the limit with these games on Windows XP possible.
So, will SLI double the reserved address ranges? Considering that the board tested is an SLI board, I would recommend that it be tested in an SLI configuration with two 640MB+ cards. Reply
guidryp - Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - linkIt is about address space not physical memory installed. Some people don't seem to get that how much memory you have just doesn't matter. We have all been using Virtual memory for ever. As far as applications are concerned you don't run out of memory till you exhaust the address space. Vista seems to be chewing up a lot of that address space.
768MB - 2.1G Ooops!
I think Anand has a good answer on the probable what/why here. Microsoft mapped the video memory into the user address space as a security measure. Security as in DRM. This prevents a second application from peaking into the video ram while you play a BluRay disk. So for Microsoft. It is a good tradeoff to lose a big chunk of address space, to protect you from pirating, your content on your machine. We should thank them I guess. Otherwise I might accidentally do a frame capture while playing a BluRay disk. That would be just awful. Much better to be protected against that and have few games crash due to resource exhaustion. Thank you Microsoft.
As a programmer, I will tell you that behaving gracefully when you are out of memory is a challenge. When new fails, you are likely hosed. You probably can't allocate memory to print out a message. You may as well exit because when you are out of memory it is game over. I see mission critical (five nines) code that doesn't even check the return code on new. I wouldn't hold gamer programmers to a higher standard.
Games that don't blow the memory on XP, but do on Vista is Microsoft problem. When CoH takes 1.3GB on XP and 2.1GB on Vista. This is stark loss of address range that Microsoft should never have embarked on for backward compatibility reasons.
Though supreme commander does deserve criticism because it can blow the memory on just about any setup. They should have tested worse case scenario and put blocks in on the number of AI/Units to prevent the memory wall from being breached.
zagood - Thursday, July 26, 2007 - linkugh...typed a novel as a response and then got a posting error. Summation:
I see your point and understand the logic. I was just saying that the difference between the processing power of those cards are about the same ratio as both the onboard memory difference and the allocation in Vista. For quick reference, from TH VGA charts:
BF2142 1024x768 no AA (FPS)
7800GTX 256mb: 56.8
X1900XTX 512mb: 75.4
8800GTS 640mb: 94.6
I just find it interesting. One test with the 8800GTS 320mb could prove me wrong, that's all I'm asking.
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zagood - Monday, July 23, 2007 - link"The amount of address space used with Vista seems to be related to the amount of video memory on our video card..."
Would like to see a test with 8800GTS 320mb vs. 8800GTS 640mb to confirm. Looking at the cards used, I wouldn't automatically chalk up the differences to onboard video memory, but instead to the processing power of each card.
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Kougar - Saturday, July 21, 2007 - linkVery interesting finds here, thanks for the nice fact finding article. :) Nice to see some real, hard facts against Vista for a change other than the random perpetuated junk.
Just a note it is still easy to crash SupCom however. As I said in the commentary for the 1st article it takes the X-large maps, 7 Advanced AI + 1 player, and 38-65 minutes of gameplay depending on econ ability of the particular map and use of the Resources x2 mod. If enough units were destroyed or an AI was killed off prematurely the game would never even crash. Using a 8800GTS 320mb card. Reply
titan7 - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkPhysical RAM is how much RAM you have. Pretty simple.
Virtual Address Space is something the OS provides. Every 32 application thinks it has a full two (or three or four, whatever your OS configuration) gigabytes of RAM all to itself. It doesn't matter if you have an old PC with four megabytes or a new one with four gigabytes. It's just virtual memory, not real memory, and you've got two gigabytes of it.
You can run dozens of applications all thinking they have two gigabytes of memory on a system with only a few megabytes. Through virtualization of the RAM the OS will just page out bits to the swap file on demand.
nullpointerus - Friday, July 20, 2007 - linkThis stuff was covered in Part 1.
Or did you intend to respond to someone in the comments section? Reply
spazmedia - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkDoes anandtech make reference in their motherboard reviews to memory hoisting or memory hole remapping? Just read somewhere else that even with a 64bit operating system, you can lose 1GB or more of memory depending as you say on your video card config, in the 3-4GB address space. Thus with a 32bit operating system it is pointless to have more then 3 gigs of ram. Memory hole remapping moves this address space elsewhere, presumably where it does not affect the amount of ram available for applications the OS. (Quite a mess actually...) Reply
BikeDude - Sunday, July 29, 2007 - linkYeah, the memory hole feature moves the "offending" DIMM above the 4GB border, thus you end up seeing this memory only in Windows Server or 64-bit Windows. (and if you do decide to use 32-bit Windows Server, you end up with 3pointsomething GB anyway, because nVidia has not supported PAE since Forceware 79.11) Reply
titan7 - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkIf it really is a WDDM problem couldn't you install some old Windows XP drivers instead of speculating? Or does vista 100% require wddm drivers? Reply
jay401 - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkIt's good to have another link of solid proof for all those jokers out there who want to claim Vista is soooo much better for gaming. wtf ever.
But back to the topic of SupCom: SupCom shouldn't crash without the hack. It shouldn't need a hack. It should work properly. Hopefully they rectify this in November, but having to pay for a second game (Forged Alliance) to get the first one to work on the epic scale they billed it as having, is rubbish. Reply
titan7 - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkIt works on the Epic scale if you play in XP though.
jay401 - Friday, July 20, 2007 - linkonly if you implement the hack fix and even then, no guarantees. Reply
thorphin - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - link2 GB barrier. This is something us in the Windows systems programming world have had to deal with for sometime. The real solution as you know is to move to a 64-bit OS but there is one trick Microsoft has left in the 32-bit world.
We can use the /3GB switch in the boot.ini on most Windows versions prior to Vista. On Vista you use the "IncreaseUserVA element in BCDEdit" in place of the /3GB switch. This raises the 2 GB application address limit to 3 GB.
But for the application to use this additional 1 GB of address space it must be compiled to use "IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE in the process header" or linked wit the /LARGEADDRESSAWARE option.
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EndPCNoise - Friday, July 20, 2007 - linkBut for the application to use this additional 1 GB of address space it must be compiled to use "IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE in the process header" or linked wit the /LARGEADDRESSAWARE option.
I don't think this is something the "average joe user" (in other words ME) can do. If I could do this, how? Reply
thorphin - Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - linkThis doesn't apply to you as the end user, it applies to the developers of the application (or game in this case). Reply
BUL - Friday, July 20, 2007 - linkPoor attempt, sport... The /3GB option is a band-aid the works in some cases and causes problems in others. The biggest issue with /3GB is drivers--even signed drivers may render XP useless--and remember, /3GB only applies to XP Pro, not XP Home. Generally speaking, writers of drivers for server OS's need to deal & test for this, but do you think your cheap Chinese-made camera's driver (written by the Guaw-Dong Industrial Conglomerate's programmer who also maintains their website) has an "industrial strength" driver? No...
What this boils down to is a design flaw in Vista (apparently in its video driver model) and poor coding on the part of ATI/NVidia driver developers & the game developers. Personally, I don't care how complex a game is--if it offers settings that cannot exist in 2GB of address space, especially on XP, then the video game company & its developers are at fault. Now they'll actually have to develop tighter, cleaner code... Boo-hoo. Reply
skroh - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkThey explained all of those issues in detail in the first article, particularly the way in which the /3GB switch doesn't help with apps that are not large address aware. They also expected the offending apps to crash at the mere presence of the switch at least some times, but apparently this proved to be almost a non-issue. I don't know if they reproduced the stability tests with the /3GB switch under XP, but that might be useful info. Reply
thorphin - Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - linkOf course it doesn't work with apps that aren't large address aware. The burden is on the developers of the applications in question. They must either make them large address aware, port them to 64-bit, or write code that can execute in a smaller address space.
Heck, they just do all the above to make them as versatile as possible. Reply
customcoms - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkThe issue is you then limit the os to 1gb of address space (since there is only 4gb total, period, no way to increase that limit w/o 64 bit environments)...which causes vista to crash... Reply
chalk - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkIt might be interesting to perform a test using Vista Home Basic, to see if the "overhead" inherent in the Aero GUI is a penalty in terms of memory use. My impression of the recent incarnations of Apple's GUI i.e. OS-X is that there is quite a penalty in terms of system resources as compared to the Windows XP GUI. It was with some pessimism that I saw Microsoft once again "emulating" Apple, as it produced a new GUI that is "real purdy" but uses appreciably more system resources. I would choose a "lean" interface that allows me to work (and a game might be considered work) more efficiently, that is, allocate computer resources to the work at hand as opposed to a glossy visual interface. I am not as technically adept as many or most of the Anandtech readers, so excuse me if my post is misguided. thanks. Reply
EndPCNoise - Friday, July 20, 2007 - linkI believe the Aero GUI (Graphic User Interface) can be switched off, and Vista can be run in a more "basic" GUI - less of a resource hog.
I would also be interested if this makes any difference. Reply
Sulphademus - Friday, July 20, 2007 - linkYou can turn off the superdeeduper effects in Vista and scale it back to XP or even to 2K. Windows should cut off rendering such data in a full screen game... I would think. But an interesting test, especially for people like me who WoW in a maxized window (and run dual monitors). I know Warcraft isnt a "modern" game but, when you have 25+ people dancing around, it brought my former 7600GS to a halt. How much extra memory will Vista's purdy UI cause the OS to shadow from the video card's resources?
Inquiring minds want to know! Reply
leexgx - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkall these tests have been done under the 32 bit sides of windows what about 64 bit Reply
brian26 - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkThe title says it all, id like to see what kind of impact Vista x64 has on the same tests. Reply
Zorlac - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkI do not think it would have an effect if the app is 32bit. Vista 64 would only solve the problem with native 64bit apps....or maybe if the 32bit app has that large address flag or whatever. Reply
EndPCNoise - Friday, July 20, 2007 - linkI do not think it would have an effect if the app is 32bit. Vista 64 would only solve the problem with native 64bit apps....or maybe if the 32bit app has that large address flag or whatever.
I believe you would be correct about this, but I would still like to see it tested. Reply
Sulphademus - Friday, July 20, 2007 - linkNow in XP64, or Vista64, how would the 32bit code address space work?
In x86 the /3g applies to the whole OS, but in x64 what does the 32bit app think it is running under? I assume that the code is meant to operate under 2g/2g but what is it actually given? Possibly a full 32bits worth of 4g?
What happens under Vista x64 with 4 or more gigs of ram when youre running Supreme Commander and push the apps VM to 2.5, 3, or 3.5 GB? Repeat with an app that is /3g aware? Reply
xiaowugui - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkThe DX10 specification has that whole virtualization thing, and I heard that the R600 actually fully support it. I wonder if that will make vista happier in its memory management for games? Reply
BUL - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - link...the ever-growing Trapper Keeper from "South Park". Reply
totallycool - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkThe reason could also be the way memory is allocated in vista as opposed to xp. If i am correct, then with superfetch it really tries to bring as much of the program in as possible, and this could relate to vista allocating more user space to program as opposed to xp. Simply put xp could be more conservative in allocating memory then vista is.
The best way to test it out would be to check other programs memory usage, like maybe Word2007, photoshop etc on the two operating systems.
Just my 2 cents
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Ryan Smith - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkIt's not SuperFetch. Unfortunately I can't find the MS article at this specific time, but there's one I read specifically talking about SF having its own allocations. Reply
BUL - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkWhat registry setting is the equivalent of "DOS=HIGH"? And wouldn't it be the A36 line? (I'm just messing with you...) Reply
strafejumper - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linki've noticed on a lot of game boxes that the minimum system requirements are different for vista and xp
usually its something like:
1gb ram (2gb if using vista)
as a gamer this kind of thing put me off and i stuck with xp Reply
leexgx - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - link
i've noticed on a lot of game boxes that the minimum system requirements are different for vista and xp
usually its something like:
1gb ram (2gb if using vista)
as a gamer this kind of thing put me off and i stuck with xp
as i have got vista 64 my self and XP 32 dual boot on 2x2 80gb hdds RAID (2 for xp 2 for vista) i find games are basicly Unplayable in some cases on vista with 2gb of ram due to the game stuttering
i got 4gb of ram in it now (xp picks up 3.2gb but that hardy matters as i never see ram use pass 1.8gb)games run mostly fine DX10 games are flaky
Nvidia could fix this bug maybe setting there drivers to Not used shared ram as from the way it looks its the New way vista handles shared ram now on the 7800 256 it would waste an extra 256mb in VM but the 8800gtx has 756mb so it uses up 500mb more VM then the 7800GTX
ChristopherO - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkAm I the only one who thinks Microsoft should release a Knowledge Base article on this issue? (Ryan, have you been in contact with them?) At least the creation of said article would be an "official" source to look for, acknowledgement, updates, or a hotfix. Until they create a KB article and admit to a fix, it is pure speculation that MS's opinion isn't, "Game developers need to learn to program correctly, not our problem."
Speaking of which, they had better get this done ASAP. I see two huge problems looming in their future. 1.) Back to School. 2.) Christmas. First, the college kids getting computers are going to be awfully mad if their games don't work. I'm sure all the developers and MS will get blamed equally for this. Same thing goes for Christmas. People are going to want to test new machines with the latest and greatest games/apps.
As for me, I have Vista 64, 4GB memory, with a 512MB ATI X1950. I had to edit the headers on FSX. Also C&C3. C&C 3 is such an allocation hog that it will run out of 3GB of address space. It will always do this in about 15-25 minutes on large maps, and 30-45 on smaller ones. Sure I can turn down the detail, but why the heck would I do that when I can run at "ultra-high" quality settings and get nothing less than 30fps? Fortunately I can tell when C&C 3 is about to crash (the icons go "pink"), which gives me time to save, quit, re-load and keep playing. Unfortunately I can't play online due to this problem.
What confuses me is that memory allocation is not a difficult problem... I don't know if the issue is becoming more prominent because game developers are really barely "adequate", or if they are off-shoring the labor to poorly trained (i.e. cheap) coding teams. I have no idea what a game developer earns, so I really couldn't make an educated guess as to where the problem is being introduced (other than the fact that Windows Vista isn't helping, and XP is really papering-over bad software architecture). Reply
JCheng - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - link
Sure I can turn down the detail, but why the heck would I do that when I can run at "ultra-high" quality settings and get nothing less than 30fps?
Umm... maybe so the game stops crashing? You'd rather "save, quit, re-load and keep playing" and stop playing online, rather than turn down your settings?? Reply
ChristopherO - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - link
Umm... maybe so the game stops crashing? You'd rather "save, quit, re-load and keep playing" and stop playing online, rather than turn down your settings??
Yes, because otherwise I wasted a large amount of cash buying the fastest video card I could get my hands on. If I realized Vista was going to be problematic I should have bought a $60 card since I can apparently only make use of $60 quality. Reply
elpresidente2075 - Sunday, July 22, 2007 - linkPerhaps you should have done a little more research before basing a (presumably) $1000+ system on a young and mostly untested OS that is released from a company that is known for releasing its final betas under the guise of a "final product" or "golden master" on release date.
Don't worry, Microsoft will have the bugs ironed out in a year... or two... or three...
They're gonna release a service pack in November! Maybe that'll make Vista not suck so much memory! *crosses fingers* Reply
nullpointerus - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkTypically, system developers create elegant, well-designed API's with flexible error handling mechanisms, which application developers then completely ignore until their applications begin doing wierd things. This failure to use API's as intended was the reason why XP and Vista's 32-bit PAE kernels were crippled: driver developers could NOT be trusted to use the system API's as published at least a decade ago, so the whole MMIO remapping thing could not be enabled, which meant that PAE kernels had the same < 4 GB physical memory limitations as non-PAE kernels. Reply
mlau - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkPAE is a hackish solution to enable more than 4 GB *physical* RAM; it has
nothing to do with address space (where 4GB is still a limit).
But you are right, most windows driver devs are morons and only know how to
work with 32bit UP kernels. Thank heavens for unix where 64bit SMP is an old
thing. Reply
pallejr - Sunday, July 22, 2007 - linkIt's not really a hackish solution. It's a way to extend to PHysical address space beyond 4GB. Reply
ChronoReverse - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkI was under the impression that VRAM is virtualized under Vista so that multiple programs are presented with the full memory of the video card. Since this memory needs to be addressable, each (3D) program will immediately have the VRAM allocated. Reply
Slaimus - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkI remember reading that the virtualization was made optional for DX10, because many graphics chip makers were unable to implement it properly in their drivers. Reply
kf27fix - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkWhat about other software, other than games? For example does Word (2003 or 2007) use more memory/address space under Vista than under XP? Perhaps it's not just games... Reply
mlau - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkHow did you "measure" the "address space consuption"?
Do you actually know what gets mapped into the games' address space.
Because code bloat alone could not explain the vast differences between
vista and xp... Reply
nullpointerus - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkPart 1 of this article series describes how they monitored virtual address space usage.
http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=30...">http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=30... Reply
imaheadcase - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkDoes a game fill video memory first,then offload the rest to system memory? Don't scream "noob alert" for the question..because.. I ask if a 8800GTS with 320megs should NOT have Supcom crash if you also have 2gigs of ram, 2gig + 384gig = 2.384gig give or take for Supcom to use?
Inspiring minds want to know!
Also, another "fix" you also should mention is just lowering details in such games to save space in memory.
Did you look at Vista SP1 fixes website to see if such a item could be a "fix" for this? It might already be listed there, just not available till SP1 Reply
grant2 - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkI ask if a 8800GTS with 320megs should NOT have Supcom crash if you also have 2gigs of ram, 2gig + 384gig = 2.384gig give or take for Supcom to use?
The OS only offers 2gigs of address space to the application. So the amount of physical chip memory is not the issue at hand here. Even if you have 3, 4, 6gb of memory on your motherboard, the software can only "see" 2gb of it.
When it comes to your graphics card, the application needs to address ("see") the video memory. So (in vista) the larger your video card, the more of that valuable address space is consumed by being pointed to the vcard memory. Reply
EndPCNoise - Friday, July 20, 2007 - linkHopefully Ryan Smith or grant2 or somebody can answer this:
Assume you are running either 32-bit XP,XP Pro or 32-bit Vista.
If you have 4GB of RAM installed on your motherboard, then ALL your address space should be used in on-board RAM and video card RAM, and NONE in Virtual Memory (Hard Disk Drive). Is this correct?
Windows could not use Virtual Memory because all the address space has been accounted for in on-board RAM and video card RAM (assuming you have 4GB RAM installed). Is this correct?
You would still have the 4GB address space limitation -- 2GB for the operating system and 2GB for applications. I believe the 2GB application limit would still be breached. However, would the crash be delayed due to the fact that the CPU can access RAM much faster than Virtual Memory?
On another note...Why does Microsoft state that 32-bit Vista Home Premium supports up to 16GB RAM if there still exists a 4GB limit on address space? -- This does not make sense.
I apologize for sounding like such a dummy, but most of this stuff is "out of my league." I appreciate your help in my understanding. This is why Anandtech is my favorite site. Reply
EndPCNoise - Saturday, July 21, 2007 - linkOn another note...Why does Microsoft state that 32-bit Vista Home Premium supports up to 16GB RAM if there still exists a 4GB limit on address space? -- This does not make sense.
Ignore this part in the above post. It is a mistake. All 32-bit versions of Vista have the 4GB limit on address space, which would make sense.
The 64-bit Vista Home Premium has an address space limit of 16 GB. Reply
saratoga - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkI doubt you'll see a "fix" since this really isn't a bug. Its just the limits of whats possible in a 32 bit system. The solution is going to be Vista 64.
Regarding the difference in VM space, I'd assume this is DX10 at work. It doubtless requires more VM space (if not more memory), so I'd expect to see a big difference between Vista and XP. Reply
Ryan Smith - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkClose, it's DX9Ex and the new WDDM at work. The Vista DX9 implementation has a few more "features" as a result of the WDDM. Reply
imaheadcase - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkThey could easily test if it is a DX10 issue by testing CoH, it ha DX9 or DX10 Reply
smitty3268 - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkSort of. They'd actually still be testing the DX10 code in Vista, though, just running the old DX9 compatibility path through it. I'm not sure you can really conclude anything from that or not, although it would be an interesting test to see. Reply
mlau - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - linkSupcom probably brings the windows VM to it's knees, and since programmers
are a lazy bunch (I know I am) and usually don't check for failed memory
allocations (and the error paths are almost NEVER exercised during testing),
supcom crashes. You can paper over this by adding a few more gigs of ram,
but it's no excuse for app stupidity. Reply
smitty3268 - Thursday, July 19, 2007 - link
You can paper over this by adding a few more gigs of ram,
Actually, the whole point is that adding more RAM doesn't help. Due to the nature of 32-bit OS's, virtual memory is capped to 4GB and most OS's limit it to 2GB for user applications. This limit doesn't change whether you have 256MB of physical memory or 4GB. You're right about the testing, though - most programmers just assume that memory is unlimited and don't think about checking to make sure an allocation didn't fail. Reply


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Paris is British writer Edward Rutherfurd's eighth historical novel, and, like London, New York, Russia, and so on, its subject is vast and situates it squarely in the James Michener tradition of massive historical-fiction bestsellers.
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I picked up a large Big Green Egg this past spring.
It has totally changed my cooking habits.
On occasion I have realized that it is just not big enough for my wants.
should I get a second?
Yesterday I stumbled into a place and found a XL BGE for 25% off
Today I bought my Christmas gift to me
Now the proud owner of a large and Extra large BGE.........................Life is good!


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Resurgent Gray can't derail red-hot Royals
A's righty bounces back, but early unearned run is costly
KANSAS CITY -- Sonny Gray looked like himself again and offered an encouraging bounce-back performance, but not even he could stop these rolling Royals on Monday night.
Coming off his worst start of the season, Gray gave the A's seven innings and allowed just two earned runs, making a first-inning unearned run the difference in this one, a 3-2 series-opening loss at Kauffman Stadium.
The Royals, winners of eight straight, have jumped ahead of the Tigers as the American League Central's newest division leaders, while the A's remain in first place in the AL West by a 3 1/2-game margin on a day the Angels rested.
The A's are 1-3 with three more to play against the Royals, a potential playoff opponent who boasts an equally formidable pitching staff.
Kansas City's hurlers, led by starter Yordano Ventura, limited the A's to just three hits in this one, getting backup help from a trio of the game's best relievers in Kelvin Herrera, Wade Davis and Greg Holland, who combined for four strikeouts in three scoreless innings.
The A's have plated three runs or fewer in 10 of its last 14 games, going 7-7 in that span.
They had a chance to score off Holland in the ninth, when Josh Donaldson opened the frame with a single and advanced to second on a wild pitch. Brandon Moss followed with a walk, bringing up one of the A's biggest run producers in Derek Norris, who entered the night batting .382 with seven homers with runners in scoring position and .514 in the same situation and fewer than two outs.
There's reason manager Bob Melvin did not order a bunt.
"Norris has been as good as we have in situations like that," Melvin said. "You just hope you don't hit into a double play, and that's what happened."
The 5-3 twin killing left pinch-runner Sam Fuld on second base for Stephen Vogt, who flied out to center to end the game.
"They have a great staff, top to bottom," said Josh Reddick. "I don't even know if they have a guy that throws under 95 [mph], so that doesn't make it real easy. It's not just their fastballs. Their secondary stuff sets up their fastballs. They've done a great job doing what they've done over here. We just have to make an adjustment, and we haven't been able to do that."
It was Reddick who was kicking himself postgame, though Gray was doing much of the same.
The right-hander allowed back-to-back hits to Jarrod Dyson and Omar Infante to lead off the first inning, the second of which went to Reddick in right field. His throw back to the infield slipped out of his hand, traveling only a few feet for an odd throwing error that allowed Dyson to advance to third. Salvador Perez's ensuing double-play grounder scored Dyson.
"I know he's a quick runner, and a quick glance, looked up, saw him running hard and realized he wasn't going, so I tried to slow down instead of just throwing it and I just lost the grip," said Reddick. "It's pretty embarrassing, especially since it cost us a run. And losing by one run, it doesn't make you feel any better. Especially the way our offense has been going, defensive mistakes are pretty big right now. For me, it's something that never happens and just takes that much more of a toll on you."
Gray scattered three more hits in the second, leading to another run, but the A's found their way to the scoreboard in the third on Moss' game-tying, two-run base hit, marking his first RBI since July 29.
A hot-and-cold A's offense stuttered thereafter, and Gray was bit by one more run in the seventh, when Alcides Escobar collected his second two-out RBI hit of the night. Both times, Gray was ahead, 0-2, against Escobar.
"Right pitch, wrong spot," said Gray, who failed to bounce his curveball. "I think everyone in the park knew I was throwing a breaking ball that last pitch and it didn't matter if I would've located it. But I didn't, and he put a good swing on it."
Gray also lost a tough one to the Royals just 10 days ago, a 1-0 deficit. He then surrendered seven runs in just 4 1/3 innings to the Rays on Aug. 6 and "came to the field the next day and didn't even talk about it," he said.
The fact he followed that up with such a strong performance Monday and still lost made it all the more disappointing.
"That's probably the best I've felt all year," Gray said. "It's a hard one to swallow. But I felt really, really, really good.
"Two good teams going at it, it's always going to be one mistake, and unfortunately for us I was the one who made that mistake tonight, and we lost. That was it."
Jane Lee is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Ready to Ink it Pink this October alongside your favorite celebrities, sports superstars and fellow Sharpie lovers?! This month we are making pink the new black in the autograph world as we kick off our annual "Ink It Pink" campaign to help fight breast cancer.
We are challenging celebrities, our incredible fans and YOU to ink it pink for the cause. For every pink autograph submitted to www.sharpie.com during the month of October, we will donate $1* to City of Hope, one of the nation's leading cancer research, treatment and education centers.
The movement is already underway as rock star, Grace Potter from Grace Potter and the Nocturnals, has already signed on to the Ink It Pink effort! Potter helped kick-off the campaign Saturday, September 24, during her band's concert in New York City's Central Park where she inked pink autographs for fans and encouraged them to do the same and send them over to sharpie.com!
You may remember last year was a HUGE success as hundreds of A-listers, from Hollywood movie legends and hall-of-fame athletes to revered rocks stars and respected media icons, lent their signatures to the effort.(Miley Cyrus' Ink it Pink video is STILL our highest viewed on the Sharpie YouTube channel!)
Well this year is no different! The pink signatures have already started rolling in, including Shay Mitchell from Pretty Little Liars and 19-time Olympic medalist, Michael Phelps, and you can help, too!
How YOU can Ink it Pink and support Breast Cancer Research
Want to lend your own Sharpie-fied signature to help out the cause?
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So, join us this October and Ink it Pink for Breast Cancer Awareness!


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How does a Cat 6 patch cable affect your network? It's like when you replace one blocked pipe in your plumbing line and suddenly the flow increases, the transfer is more fluid and the whole system is improved.
The RJ45 High Performance Category 6 UTP Patch Cable is the perfect performance upgrade. Used to replace any Cat 5 cable that fails to support 100 Base-T or Gigabit Ethernet. With RJ45 male-to-male connectors and a snagless molded strain relief.
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If the employees were salaried, not hourly, none of this would have been an issue. Salaried employees are expected to get the job done, no matter how many hours it takes. I have worked several jobs where I put in 50-60 hour weeks without overtime because I was salaried.
I believe that the federal labor laws say that to be salaried, generally speaking, an employee's responsibilities have to include a significant supervisory role over other employees and be pretty managerial in scope. Could be wrong... but that is my understanding.
Depending on the role... it MIGHT fall under the "creative" exemption. But a lot would depend on the exact primary role of the job.
So a person who simply mixes clay or fires kilns or other such tasks would likely not qualify to be salaried.
Lawpots...... you reading this? Yes / no?
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Jacob goes to Horizon Movies for US
Kino Lorber's Horizon Movies label has picked up North American rights to horror-thriller Jacob.
Larry Wade Carrell's film tells of a disturbed loner who sets out to avenge the murdered of his beloved sister.
Jacob earned a considerable festival following and won best picture at the WorldFest Houston International Film Festival among other awards.
Kino Lorber vp of home entertainment sales and distribution Eric D Wilkinson negotiated the deal with producer Larry Wade Carrell.
Jacob will launch on DVD, VoD and digital platforms on Apr 16.
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Highlight: Rizzoli & Isles, Tuesday, SoHo, 8.40pm
FOR the uninitiated, Rizzoli is Jane Rizzoli, a Boston police detective - crucially, as many have noted, the only female member of the homicide squad. Isles is Maura Isles, a medical examiner who happens to work many of the cases her friend Rizzoli is solving. The two, played by Angie Harmon and Sasha Alexander, form a charming and potent combination. The first season, launched in the US in 2010, was surprisingly entertaining. Although the Boston portrayed here undoubtedly has the feel of Lot 38 at the Warner Bros studio in Burbank, the performances and writing are uniformly solid. Season one's 10 episodes explored the origins of the relationship between the two, and their success climbing the ranks in a male-dominated crime-solving world. Rizzoli is the street-smart, working-class tomboy; Isles is the book-smart sophisticate. Having discovered her father was a mobster and murderer early in the season, Isles has been having trouble trusting her instincts. Rizzoli has her own issues: a troubled brother in jail, another brother (also a cop) who was shot early in the season, and a persistent mother, played with shrill intensity by Lorraine Bracco from The Sopranos. Still, the husky-voiced Harmon - who was the most compelling offsider Jack McCoy had in Law & Order - is easily the best thing about this show. This series loses its appeal somewhat when it goes into its infrequently grisly story arcs about serial killers. Tonight's episode, the season two finale, is one such instalment.
Dance Moms, LifeStyle You, 9.30pm
DEEP into the current season of Dance Moms, tensions, naturally, are mounting as high as the tween dancers' buns, as dance studio owner Abby Lee Miller and the ''moms'' are still arguing over whether or not there was a ''deliberate'' CD malfunction in last week's episode, during young dancer Maddie's routine in last week's episode. Then there is some arguing about dress sizes and colours, and some frankly embarrassing arguments between Abby and various moms, all in front of their precocious prepubescent children. Amid the arguing, the young dancers have just four days to rehearse ahead of a big competition. The highlight of these dance routines is Maddie's high-concept solo, devised by Abby herself, in which Maddie portrays the life of Helen Keller through the medium of modern jazz dancing, working with a rag doll and, inexplicably, some fake soot on her face. No, really - she even made fourth place. Even if this ''reality'' program is heavily scripted, one can't help but imagine many of these scenes being relayed to various psychiatrists 10 years from now.
The Carrie Diaries, Fox8, 8.30pm
Foxtel is airing the premiere of this new drama, which is being billed as a prequel to Sex and the City, a few hours after it airs in the US. Which is great, but with preview discs unavailable before our deadline, we cannot confirm whether it's any good or not. The previews look charming enough.
Come Dine with Me Australia, LifeStyle, 8.30pm
You must know the drill by now. A solid Australian adaption of a reality series about hosting strangers in your kitchen and having them grade your cooking.


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Williams-Sonoma | Heart Silicone Cupcake Molds, Set of 8
Any foodie and cupcake lover would definitely adore these silicone cupcake molds that are perfect for any occasion, especially Valentine's Day. You could surprise your Valentine with heart-shaped brownies, cupcakes or muffins even if you're not so talented - this set also comes the WS Espresso Lovers cupcake recipe!
Bake for your sweetheart this year!Added 9 Years Ago from Williams-Sonoma


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Place the pasta in a large bowl, pour warm water over to cover and soak 20 minutes until tender.
Mix together the shoyu, maple syrup, lime juice, water and ginger. Set aside.
Heat the hot pepper sesame and olive oil in a large skillet or wok. Sauté the garlic for 1 minute. Add the carrots, scallions, mung bean sprouts and snow peas. Sauté 1 to 2 minute. Add the shoyu and lime juice mixture. Drain the pasta and place in the skillet. Toss until the pasta is hot and softens, about 2 minutes or so. Toss in the parsley and serve with the peanuts on top for garnish.
For those with peanut allergies, other nuts such as roasted cashews or slivered almonds may be substituted.
NOTE: For a Gluten Free recipe substitute Eden Tamari Soy Sauce or a bit of Eden Sea Salt to taste in place of Eden Shoyu Soy Sauce.
Per serving - 263 calories, 6 gram fat (19% calories from fat), 7 gram protein, 46 gram carbohydrate, 2 gram fiber, 0 milligram cholesterol, 483 milligram sodium


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The New York Giants' offseason officially kicked off with a bang on Tuesday as the team released linebacker Michael Boley.
The move, which was first reported by USA Today's Mike Garafolo, saves the Giants a large number against the projected 2013 salary cap, as Boley was due to earn a base salary of $4.25 million, plus a $250,000 workout bonus and a prorated signing bonus of $1.4 million this season. In total, it would save the team $3.1 million, leaving them only an estimated $1.4 million over the cap.
"Michael came in and learned our defense quickly and he added speed, coupled with big play ability, to our defensive unit," general manager Jerry Reese said. "He also played an important role in helping us win Super Bowl XLVI. I wish him well as he moves forward in his career."
Head coach Tom Coughlin also offered his praise for Boley, and all that he has meant to the Giants since 2009.
"Michael Boley was brought here as a fast, athletic, versatile linebacker," coach Tom Coughlin said. "We recognized his special skills were in coverage. He's a smart player who made some big plays for us. He was an integral part of our Super Bowl XLVI championship team. Michael played outstanding football down the stretch for us that season."
In 57 career games with the Giants, Boley collected 315 tackles, 3.5 sacks, three interceptions, 15 passes defensed, two forced fumbles and five fumble recoveries
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Topic: Mark Clements
It is with great sadness that we let you know that our sweet brother Mark passed away on the 19th of January. These last few weeks though hard have been filled with gentle reminders of God's tender mercies. We have felt His love and know that a sweet reunion awaits us. Thanks to all for your kind wishes, thoughts and prayers in Mark's behalf. We have felt lifted and comforted.


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City of Industry, Calif. -- Hot Topic announced that its chief financial officer, Jim McGinty, has resigned, effective March 29. The company said that George Wehlitz, VP finance will serve as interim CFO.
McGinty had worked for Hot Topic Inc. for the past 12 years. His resignation is effective March 29.
Wehlitz became VP finance at Hot Topic in 2008. He previously served as CFO at motorcycle clothing and accessories company Cycle Gear Inc.
Before joining Cycle Gear, Wehlitz worked at Hot Topic from February 2002 through November 2005 serving as VP controller in 2002 and then as VP finance from August 2003 to November 2005.


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Mandolina, a famous blogger who was well-known for his anti – islamic writings previously, converted to Islam and became a Muslim. He suspended all of his previous writings and explained why he converted to Islam in detail. "Normally people understand the real value of their material properties whenever they lose them. But people who understand the real value of the moral blessings are the only ones who really own these in themselves." told the blogger to Misriyyun Newspaper.
The previous Christian blogger Mandolina, who always critized Islam announced that he became a Muslim. Mandolina also expressed that he has had an inner conflict going on for one and a half year which finally ended when he picked the right path.
Mandolina wrote these words in his blog:
"There is a wise saying: The health is like a crown on the head of the people who have full health but only sick people can understand the value of the it. This is something natural. The value of the health, the children, the money and the value of other physical blessings can only be understood whenever we lose them. However the spiritual and mental blessings are only be understood by the people who own them. SuphanAllah. Nobody really understands the value of being guided by Allah but only the people who have the faith blessing by Allah. Nobody really understands the value of being intelligent but only the people of intelligence by Allah's leave. Nobody really understands the value of knowledge but only the people of knowledge by Allah's leave. In the same way, nobody understands the real value of Islam but only the people who converted to Islam by Allah's leave. I converted to Islam eleven days ago. On Sunday morning, at the time of morning pray, I made up my mind and repeated the Islamic testimony of faith (the Shahadah). Since then I realized other meanings of the word "Elhamdulillah" (Thanks God). When I repeated this word again and again I felt as if I fly to the sky with my soul."


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On Campus
Books That Shaped America Spark Community Conversations
Last April, the University Library and the School of Professional and Extended Studies launched a new collaborative series to bring together members of the AU and D.C. communities to discuss selected texts from the Library of Congress's Books That Shaped America list. While this list of 88 books by American authors is not a comprehensive list of every important book, it does provoke conversation about the importance of books to individuals and society.
The Books That Shaped America series at American University helps to start that conversation. Each text is selected by an AU faculty or staff member who volunteers to lead discussion of that work. Because discussion leaders and audience members come from a wide variety of backgrounds, each discussion is unique. For the recent discussion of Benjamin Franklin's "Experiments and Observations on Electricity", Professor Nathan Harshman, Chair of the Department of Physics, demonstrated some of Franklin's experiments, including his take on the famous kite and lightning experiment. During an earlier discussion of "To Kill a Mockingbird" by Harper Lee, Professor Cynthia Jones of the Washington College of Law related the events of the story to real life through her own experience as the Executive Director of the D.C. Public Defender Service and shared clips from the upcoming documentary "Our Mockingbird".
Upcoming Conversations:
Fahrenheit 451
Ray Bradbury
November 19, 7:30–9pm
Mary Graydon Center, Room 200
University Librarian Nancy Davenport
This will be the final event for Fall 2013. The series will resume in Spring 2014.
All members of the American University and greater Washington, D.C. communities are invited to join the conversation. Attendees are encouraged—but not required—to have read the book. Light refreshments are served. Admission and parking are free, and RSVP is not required. For more information on the series, and to see photographs and video of past events, please visit www.american.edu/spexs/btsa.
To receive invitations to future Books That Shaped America and other library events email email@example.com or call 202-885-3847. We hope that you can join us for an upcoming discussion!