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The Windows Phone 7 Reviewby Anand Lal Shimpi & Brian Klug on 10/20/2010 7:00 PM EST
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wharris1 - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkWeb site is great; now I need to read article Reply
deputc26 - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkWhere are the actual load times (in seconds) for web pages? Synthetics never tell the whole picture... seems like you might be embarrassed for WP7 on this front ;) Reply
GoSharks - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkAre there supposed to be images in this article? Reply
jimhsu - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkArticle seems to be half done as Anand makes a huge number of edits. Guess that's normal. Reply
SelesGames - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkI see images just fine.
Btw, I don't know whether any app reviews will be done, but for anyone who has access to a phone, check out some of our apps. Search for "Seles Games" to see all our apps, or check out any of the apps we have demoed here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/aemami99 Reply
Mumrik - Saturday, October 23, 2010 - linkSo you decided to advertise in the Anandtech comments... Classy move. Reply
Termie - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkThe HTC Surround page seems to be missing, or at least it's not coming up when I click on the link to that page. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkImages are incoming, please bare with us :) Reply
atmartens - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - link"please bare with us :)"
Skinny dipping? Or just streaking? Reply
Zstream - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkDo you know what the talk time is for the LG? It's not showing on the graph. Reply
AstroGuardian - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkEverything is displayed fine. Dunno what to tell you Reply
numberoneoppa - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkCould have something to do with your reply coming a day after the article was posted. :P Reply
Kashmire - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkHardware review website goes political? Good way to irritate your viewers by sneaking in the Obama advertisement (phone's screen on AnandTech homepage). Why make your readers suffer through your political statement to read tech hardware reviews? Wrong place for this. Reply
bdattilo - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkThat is a Pepsi billboard... Reply
dreamlane - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkBeautiful Reply
Donkey2008 - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkLOL. Seriously, just ROLMAO. Reply
earthzero - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkAre you serious? You know that is a Pepsi Cola "get out and vote" ad, right? That's a Pepsi logo. Reply
lwatcdr - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkI also thought that was a Pepsi bill board.
Welcome to the polarization of America. Reply
email@example.com - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkGeez... I'm guessing you're the only one who noticed it, and I'm betting you're the only one who gives a crap, let alone accusing the authores of political biasing. Get a life, will ya? Reply
Smilin - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkBWAAHAHA. Oh boy what a tool you just made yourself out to be. Do you really hate Obama so much that you have PTSD like flashbacks of him everywhere? You see "hope" symbols where others see "pepsi". Reply
AssBall - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkLOL! Yeah, I think he needs to lay off the Ritalin. Reply
morphologia - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkSeems to me you are creating the problem yourself by caring about it so much. No one is forcing you to take such exception to political imagery. All you have to do is not care and the problem magically vanishes.
Sheesh. Reply
Fleeb - Saturday, October 23, 2010 - linkI did not even noticed that there is a Pepsi billboard in there up until you mentioned it. :S Reply
Exelius - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkGiven the head start Apple and Google have, what are Microsoft's prospects with the carriers?
Carrier support is obviously very important with licensed models like WP7 and Android... As Google learned with the Nexus One, what are Microsoft's prospects in mobile? Verizon is highly invested in Android, so don't look for them to push Android phones heavily, and AT&T is still riding Apple's cash cow... I don't think the two platform's positions are a coincidence.
Furthermore, is Microsoft prepared to potentially be the #3 mobile platform long-term? And that's assuming they can get out in front of RIM. I don't know that they have a chance of catching Google or Apple (Microsoft as a consumer brand is probably irreparably damaged and Google and Apple are still very popular.) Reply
anactoraaron - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkthis is the #1 reason that I have right now for buying a WP7 phone. "Microsoft needs to pay the bills"??? Are you serious!?!? So their profits on Windows and Office are only for spending 1 billion on advertising and we get to eat it on seeing ads when I am searching through my email??? I can't understand the justification on not blasting MS here on this... which of their competitors do this now? This opens a door full of feces that I would rather not touch... Imagine turning on your phone to be bombarded by 3-10 ads before you can use the phone... and it starts with consumers being ok with an ad here and there while you do things not web related on your phone... "xbox live brought to your WP7 phone by Applebees- tap here to find the nearest applebees while your game loads"
NO WAY MS... good try though. I guess it's up to Nokia/Intel with their meego to get my hard earned money... I am not paying for those ads on my phone - no way no how. Reply
Smilin - Monday, October 25, 2010 - linkWhich of their competitors do this now?
Apple and Google that I'm aware of. Settle down beavis. Reply
mcnabney - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkConsumers know of three key smartphone products right now - Apple, Android, and RIM. The people that do know about Microsoft's previous offerings are probably still bitter.
How will Microsoft overcome this deficit? They actually don't offer anything more than a nice slick interface that runs integrated functions smoothly, but falters on Apps. They won't even benefit from the latest must-have hardware - the launch phones are essentially 6 month old equipment.
RIM has always banked on the business customer, Apple with the trendy, and Android got everyone else. Well, they all have mature products now. Android was able to gain traction due to the iPhone/AT&T exclusivity which made them the only 'consumer targeted' smartphone on the other three American carriers. That was key to Android's success. There is no longer a pent-up demand for Microsoft to attach itself to.
What wasn't mentioned in the article is the competitive landscape for these devices. They will be going against superior Android hardware and a new version of the Pre. I just don't see much demand for these outside of the Zune-faithful. Reply
lwatcdr - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkYep it all comes down to on thing.
Is Windows Phone 7 better in every way than IOS and Android. Frankly WebOS is also a very good mobile platform but is not getting anywhere near the buzz that it should.
Just being as good as just isn't enough when your competitors have a huge lead.
For me the big thing that WP7 offers will be ZunePass. If you are a music person that could be a huge benefit and it is a really good service I hear. I just don't think these devices are good enough and the lack of apps is a huge barrier. Reply
AssBall - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkRemember the microsoft compatibility though. This OS has the potential to make for excellent corporate phones. Reply
teohhanhui - Monday, October 25, 2010 - linkLatest must-have hardware? That won't really matter to the average consumer. (And higher raw performance doesn't necessarily translate into better responsiveness, which greatly affects the user's perception of performance.) Reply
serkol - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - link"Flipping through pages upon pages of square app icons just isn't the most efficient way to do it. Folders help reduce the clutter, but they don't fundamentally address the problem."
Try placing folders onto the iPhone dock. I've placed 4 folders there. Tap on the folder (in the dock), and it opens up the folder, then tap on the app. This look like 4 mini "start buttons" - very convenient, and looks very good. Reply
bobjones32 - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkFYI Anand - there's a dedicated Facebook app in the marketplace that was posted today. Actually created by Microsoft, not Facebook. Any chance you can update this article or write another quick one once you have a chance to take a look? The screenshots in the Zune software look interesting, at least. Reply
Regenweald - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkThe xbox live integration on this alone makes it a much more attractive platform that anything else out there.( i thought I was going to have to buy an xbox for the new plants vs zombies exclusive content, lol) I'm looking forward to WP8. Many persons have sold WP7 short without anything to actually go on, but now, it already seems like the most complete platform out there. Full windows integration, ZUNE, XBOX and Facebook. Reply
Dobs - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkAll sounded great for me until IE mobile - What a let down.
Basically a deal breaker. Other faults I reckon I'd be happy to live with until they fixed them.
My high hopes sunk :( Reply
RetroEvolute - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkHow did this let you down? The article didn't really have much of anything to say negative about the IE browser included in Windows Phone 7. Unless you're just one of those people who hate anything with the name IE or Internet Explorer...
If you haven't already, try the IE9 Beta for Vista/Win7. It's a huge improvement from their previous versions, and you may just like it. Reply
Dobs - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkDid you read page 9 (Rebuilding a Brand: IE mobile)?
The benchmarks, blocky text and..
"Slower page loading times aren't as big of a deal anyways, since you can leave the browser and go do something else entirely while the page keeps loading."
This statement instantly reminded me of dial up internet - not a smart phone.
I don't open a browser to then go and test my multi-tasking or my patience.
Like I said - I'll wait for now. If IE mobile is fixed I'll seriously reconsider.
I don't currently have a smart phone and had been patiently waiting for win7 phone as I thought it might be The One - but it looks like I'll continue waiting.
And I don't think browsers for PC have anything to do with a phone review - Thanks anyhow. Reply
B3an - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkI dont think the benchmarks matter that much if actual real world browsing is still good, which it is, and that sites are rendered correctly, which they are.
Compared to the current state of many other phone browsers at the moment IE on WP7 seems atleast decent. Other browsers might have greater speed and specs on paper but they wont run as smooth and they often have trouble displaying certain pages. Reply
B3an - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkJust read the Engadget review and they also like the browser:
"we've got to say that web browsing on Windows Phone 7 is actually a really pleasant experience. "
"Loading the desktop version of Engadget was just a hair slower than an iPhone 4, and just as importantly, rendering new parts of the page as you scroll is plenty fast -- not instantaneous, but fast enough so that you never find yourself consciously waiting for it to catch up. Zooming -- which is accomplished with a pinch gesture, of course -- is buttery smooth. The phone accomplishes this in the same way you're probably used to from other devices: when you first zoom in, it uses the same render resolution so that it can at least show you something without going blank, then it renders the appropriate level of detail as it catches up (Google Maps works the same way on almost every platform). It works well. Zooming in and out of a page -- even when still loading up content -- was super fast in our testing, and rendering happened in a split second, meaning hardly any time spent looking at jagged pixels. We're tremendously impressed with how well the browser works "
However they go on to mention that because of no Flash (yet, Adobe are working on it) that watching streaming video is out of the question for now as the browser also dont support HTML5 video. Reply
MacGyver85 - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkI was at the launch event in Belgium at the Microsoft HQ and had the chance to ask a few questions. One of which was if they'll be moving to the IE9 rendering & javascript engine once it is finalized. The answer was a resounding yes. The guy also said that they are already using some parts of IE9 as well in addition to IE7 and 8. Reply
ishbuggy - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkDoes anyone know how WP7 will handle updates? I really hope they enforce updates across all the devices so you don't get stuck with old software versions months after new ones have come out like with android. Reply
bplewis24 - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkCheck out page 26. It's dedicated completely to how the "update" process works. In short, it's more like iOS than Android....which is sounds like you'd prefer. Reply
ishbuggy - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkYeah I accidentally skipped that page :P
I really hope it works out as well as Microsoft hopes it will Reply
Voldenuit - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkWill AT be reviewing the Nokia N8 and E8 Symbian phones? Nokia is pretty obscure in the States (since they mainly sell direct from their website, with no carrier subsidy), but are pretty big in Europe and Asia. Reply
epyon96 - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkAnand,
With such a glowing review from you, it's almost enough to bump Windows 7 above my initial choice of getting a blackberry. I need a physical keyboard. I'm very picky about it. You are simply a very engaging writer.
I really hope Windows 7 mobile comes up with a superior keyboard version Reply
VashHT - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkThe Dell phone coming out looks like it will have a really nice keyboard, I think it is called the venue pro. Also ATT is supposed to have a keyboard phone by LG I think. Reply
heelo - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkThe Venue Pro *looks* great, but it's somewhat of a monster in size and weight.
If I weren't stuck on a T-Mobile family plan, I'd probably opt for that LG Quantum. Like Anand said, WP7's interface is extremely usable on smaller screens, and the reasonable form factor and physical keyboard likely make for a very convenient real-world user experience. The drawback is that the looks and (supposedly) build quality are sub-par. Reply
EarthwormJim - Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - linkOMG a screenshot of me in action is on the Xbox Live page!! Woo-hoo Reply
gstrickler - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkThat's the ugliest and least interesting home/start screen I've ever seen on a smartphone. It may be functional, but even a 6 year old crackberry looked better (and I don't like the BB). The rest of the UI doesn't look too bad, but the start screen needs some work. Reply
bplewis24 - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkI couldn't agree more. I find it funny that people are claiming this UI is "100% right" as if everybody is going to like it. Obviously it's a matter of preference, but I just cannot see the overwhelming majority of people getting into this UI. I find it appalling to look at and couldn't imagine using it every day.
Brandon Reply
B3an - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkDont know what you're smoking but most people prefer an easy to use simple looking UI thats functional rather than cluttered eye candy.
From the vids i've seen it seems to be the smoothest running, most functional, fastest, and natural UI on any phone to date. Reply
bplewis24 - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkYou call it smooth running and functional, which is fine. That doesn't dissuade me and the OP from feeling it is ugly and off-putting. You even say it doesn't have to be cluttered eye candy, but the review claims it is the most beautiful UI he has ever seen. The thing is big blue blocks. It is exactly what he explained on the first page that Windows typically does with any refresh of their OS: "make it bigger and bluer."
It is definitely ugly, but if you only care about how functional and fast it is, then you will love it. I admit that I can't stand iOS cluttered eye-candy style either, so I'm with you on that. Give me functional, customizable and sleek and I'm in heaven. Glad somebody already figured out how to do that.
Brandon Reply
geniekid - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkIn my opinion, it's quite good looking and better than the default home screen on my HTC Incredible.
Like you said, it's all a matter of taste. I will put myself out there and say the guy who thinks the "6 year old crackberry looked better" probably has poor taste. Reply
Smilin - Monday, October 25, 2010 - linkIt is the most beautiful UI I've seen. Mind you I've SEEN it. Have you? Screenshots don't do it justice. You have to see it moving and the text shifting in parallax. It's eerily 3D.
iPhone and Android are beautiful too....if you're a Windows 3.1 progman.exe fan. Reply
gstrickler - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkIt may be simple and functional, but that doesn't mean it has to be boring and ugly. I'm a huge proponent of simple and functional, but that screen looks like something out of the late 80's or early 90's. The tiles have too little to differentiate them from each other. A little use of color and better contrast would make it a lot clearer and faster to identify the icons, and it would look better.
Note to MS, hire a usability consultant and put some of your graphic designers to work (I know you have graphic designers). It shouldn't look like just like Windows 7, but it definitely shouldn't look like it comes from Windows 2.0 Reply
inighthawki - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkThat "ugly" home/start screen interface is one of the main reasons I'm interested in WP7. The other smartphone interfaces I've seen from others like iOS and Android are nothing more than glorified and eye-candy enhanced versions of every other phone out there IMO. And as someone who owns a Zune HD which has a very similar interface, I can tell you that it works really well, and is very nice. Reply
bplewis24 - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkThere is no eye candy in Android. It's basically a blank slate desktop background. And obviously it's no surprise that a Zune HD user would prefer the Windows Phone 7 UI. It's also not a surprise you use subjective and vague justifications for your preference :) Reply
inighthawki - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkI don't see why I have to justify a subjective decision. The bottom line is "I like it" and my entire point was that just because the OP thinks it's the ugliest home screen they've ever seen, there are people like myself that not only like it, but actually dislike the style they do. I am not trying to force my opinion on anyone. Reply
Smilin - Monday, October 25, 2010 - linkI agree with you FWIW. Reply
cknobman - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkI agree 100%
Gigantic big colored tiles? Seriously?
What a waste of space and an overly boring-bland appearance!!! Reply
Guspaz - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkI agree, the WP7 UI looks horrendous to me. Giant space-wasting bland UI components.
My biggest concern is how HUGE the tiles are. Anand complained about iOS/Android cluttering screens with app icons, but it seems to me like WP7 will be incredibly worse.
Reducing the number of tiles on the screen so that you can only view 6 full tiles at a time, as WP7 has done (the bottom two tiles appear cut off in pictures) is a huge limitation. The iPhone displays 20 icons.
If I've got 50 apps, and I'm not using folders, an iPhone will give you three screens to scroll through. Android, I assume is similar. Windows phone 7 seems to require something like 8... And the lack of some sort of folder or grouping support is only going to make this worse.
My prediction is that, if WP7 takes off and starts getting a decent number of apps, they're going to have to rethink the home UI or it'll be unusable. Reply
Crono - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkA lot may not have been taken from the Kin One and Kin Two, but the square, multi page Start is the same concept that was implemented in the Kin phones.
Looking forward to moving from my Kin One to the Surround. Microsoft is offering 3 months free Zune Pass for those who sign up to be notified about preorders. Reply
heelo - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkYou might be the only owner of a Surround.
That thing has a "value proposition" that I'm really struggling to relate to. Reply
peter7921 - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkI have to give recognition to Anandtech for another great review. I have been looking for a detailed review on WP7 and you guys delivered. Not only is it extremely informative but it's also very well written. I read through it all, not once feeling bored or skipping ahead.
These types of articles are the reason Anandtech is my first source for all things tech!
Keep up the great work guys! Reply
Confusador - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkOK, wow. I mean, even by Anandtech's unusually high standards that was intense. Just one thing I'm not clear on, though... am I reading this correctly?
"WP7 calls presents its browser user agent as "Mozilla/4.0 ...""
If that's correct we've come a long way from the days I had to have Firefox masquerade as IE to be effective. Reply
Guspaz - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkIE has *always* done this, including on the desktop. IE6 reports as as Mozilla/4.0 too. IE2 also did it (a different version of Mozilla, though). A quick search didn't turn up IE1 user agent strings, but I assume it also did. Reply
Spivonious - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkRemember back when IE was introduced, Netscape was king. Netscape is based on Mozilla. That's the only reason it's in there - so pages made for Netscape would load correctly in IE. Reply
arturnowp - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkIT seems strange that WP7 cannot pass test, has very slow JavaScript engine but still pages are fluid and displayed porperly. Maybe Microsoft renders pages remotely and serves them to the phne? Reply
UCLAPat - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkWow! After reading this review, it makes all the other reviews look like previews. Definitely going to be considering WP7 when it's time to upgrade my phone. Still have time to burn on my current 2 year contract. By the time it's up, LTE should be up and running and Verizon will probably have a WP7 device for us to consider as well.
Apps will come. But they're not a huge part of my life anyway. I want a rock-solid core experience for a phone. A smartphone has to nail the basic experiences first (calls, messaging, calendar, etc). I never liked the main screen completely filled with app icons. That reminded me too much of my old desktop computer before I cleaned up the desktop. Reply
Belard - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkBut very detailed... tells us pretty much everything anyone can ask.
While I'm not exactly PRO-MS... its good to see good design.
I still like Google's a bit more and its shortcoming are easy to spot. Hopefully Android 3.0 will improve on its weaknesses.
The icon / naming is well thought out and is used by others... including Apple, but not on a phone. Reply
silverblue - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - link"...displays up to 8 tiles of people you've either recently communicated with or whose profiles you've viewed/stalked."
LOL. Reply
Lapoki - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkI think WP7 has potential and could very well be my next purchase. Great article guys, it was long but very detailed.. got me through a boring afternoon.
One thing seems missing though... the infamous signal strength comparison that you have been doing for all other phones ever since iPhone 4. Reply
wht1986 - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkOne of the most informative WP7 reviews I have read. I actually didn't skip to the end just to read the conclusions. I read it all and enjoyed every page. Well done. Reply
epyon96 - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkDid I read that right?
Only Mp4 and WMVsupport? Reply
strikeback03 - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkI'm guessing that is the audio codecs allowed for videos Reply
Tanclearas - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - link"When Apple introduced the iPhone, Steve Jobs made the point that a virtual keyboard was preferable to a fixed keyboard because you shouldn't always be stuck with the same keyboard layout. Some applications would require a slightly different layout and other applications wouldn't need it entirely. A physical keyboard requires you to pay the space penalty regardless of what you're doing with the phone."
Really? So, by that argument, Google/Android is the better choice of phone. You shouldn't always be stuck with a single choice of phone layout. I use my hardware keyboard regularly on my G1. As for "applications requiring a slightly different layout", that's a load of crap. When typing, I always want letters and numbers, and I want QWERTY with number keys above. I don't want an on-screen QWERTY with a separate button to press to switch back-and-forth between letters and numbers.
The "applications that require a slightly different layout", perhaps like the phone keypad, can still use an on-screen keypad when necessary. Reply
DP-16D - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkWindows 7 Phone must be absolutely phenomenal given the writers' incredible Mac-centric slant (especially with the Windows 7 desktop non-sequitor at the end of the review). Furthermore: The e-mail and messaging pages don't include comparisons to Blackberry, the de-facto standard for communication on smartphones. In fact, I cannot recall that line of phones being mentioned at all. As an existing Blackberry user considering a switch to Windows 7 Phone your review is nearly worthless, because 99% of my phone experience is about functionality and not whether or not my handset can sing and dance better or worse than iOS and Android.
Normally I enjoy reading Anand for very thorough reviews, but this review's omission of the essential and inclusion of the irrelevant will make me reconsider reading any future submissions by these two writers. Reply
beefnot - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkC'mon man, although Blackberry is a mkt share leader, it is a 20th century platform with very little innovation. It is walking dead with respect to consumer devices, which is the segment that Windows Phone 7 is currently targeting. I own a blackberry for work, but there is no way in hell I would consider it for my personal mobile device, and I don't give a rat's ass that it is excluded from comparison. Reply
Reven - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkI'm happy with my iphone 4 for now, but I will seriously consider getting the next generation of Windows Mobile phones when I eventually upgrade. Reply
anona6 - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkHey I live in Tucson, and I was wondering if anandtech was based out of Tucson or something.
This article made it a little more exciting for me just because it was local to me, and you have
one of my favorite coffee shops there that's nearby my University. Reply
Zstream - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkDo you know what the talk time is for the LG? It's not showing on the graph Reply
soaringrocks - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkI find it amusing that for a 'phone' there is often little to no discussion on call quality, reception, and ability to maintain connection in a difficult environment. We know that all phones are not equal on that score...
It's like you don't expect people to actually make phone calls. Reply
beefnot - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkMaking phone calls with your smart phone is just so passe. Reply
strikeback03 - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkThey said they have reviews of the actual phones coming, that is the type of info that would be in a review of the phone, not the OS. Reply
thartist - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linksick amount of quality work. the only WP7 review on the web so far as it had to be done.
Anand, keep that quality work that puts you so above from the rest. Reply
softdrinkviking - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkThe lack of "change on the fly" micro SD is a deal killer for me.
It's a shame too, because I really like everything else about this phone. Reply
Smilin - Monday, October 25, 2010 - linkCurious: Why do you need such a feature? Reply
softdrinkviking - Friday, November 05, 2010 - linkwhoa, i don't know if anyone else, or even you will get back to reading this but...
i use SD cards to store music on. i have a situation where i can't always sync with my home pc very often, and i can't always carry around a laptop, so bringing along a handful of different SD cards with a variety of tunes has been important to me.
what i'd really like is for card-swapping to get more convenient, like in cameras. Reply
btdvox - Thursday, October 21, 2010 - linkIn your review you guys say the LG Optimus 7 has a MicroSD slot that we can expand on, yet nowhere else does it say that on the web. Can you verify this? If it does than this phone is a clear winner for me, It's also avail in Canada btw. I'd hope we're just as important as Asia and Europse but I suppose were not haha. Reply
softdrinkviking - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkthe trick is that the microSD card gets treated like part of the built-in memory, and you cannot replace it without completely erasing your phone and starting over.
so you basically have to choose a single SD card and stick with it, there is no changing on the fly like in android phones. Reply
btdvox - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkWasnt really my question but thanks.
But still unanswered is, I dont think LG Optimus 7 has a microsd slot, Engadget just reviewed it and stated it doesnt have a memory slot. Can you guys confirm this? Reply
Kentcomp - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkI really appreciate you guys so thoroughly reviewing WP7. Your review was like reading a really well illustrated, yet candid owner's manual. Thank you!
PS I find the home screen to be kind of boring too but I'll choose functionality over style 99% of the time. After all, the homescreen is just there to get you to where you really want to be. Reply
Riccardo - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkThat's a remarkably in-depth review. Thanks guys! Reply
rye222 - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkamazingly thorough article. i've been eagerly awaiting these phones ever since i bought the Zune HD and thought, "if MS made this into a phone, they would own". thanks Anand, great job as usual on your articles! Reply
lewchenko74 - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkThe interface is too minimalistic. Hate the massive two color icons. Just looks ugly.. and really not that functional if you have a lot of these 'icons' to wade through.
Then there are the limitations that mean it isnt quite as feature rich as an iphone or Android in certain areas.
There is absolutely nothing compelling to sway me to this phone (at all).
Anyone with an app library (android or iOS) is hardly gonna part with their spent money on a new device and lose that investment... plus it barely has an app library yet.
I wish MS well as competition is important... but it really doesnt give an iOS / Android owner anything new, plus if I was buying fresh... I think that the iOS / Android phones and app-sphere etc are just more compelling.
Nice thorough review though.... just read a little too enthusiastically MS focussed at times, but a good read. Reply
hakime - Friday, October 22, 2010 - link"The UI is a thing of beauty. Microsoft got the style, customization and performance one hundred percent right on this thing. It makes iOS feel old and utilitarian. It's funny to think that Microsoft was the one to out-simplify Apple in the UI department."
This sentence summarize by itself how not objective and professional this review is. I mean no one on Earth being a little bit rational can think that this Metro interface is beautiful let alone functional or easy to use. I mean how a hell can a text based interface with half displayed text all around and ugly flat colors on top of black background can be called beautiful? This interface just lacks taste, it is different yes, but it is bad, it lacks interaction. You are so Microsft driven that you come to think that a different interface is necessarily easy to use and functional. Nothing is right here, the theme, the colors are ugly with little sense for giving some wish for the user to use the phone, there are too many steps needed to go to what the user wants to do, the tiles are a mess as they can be anything and hubs are an obscure UI concept that serve little interest. You want to browse through your apps, you are presented with only a list view and good luck with that. The calendar and SMS apps are a horrible vision for the users, they are just ugly. The email app looks like it was design by a bunch of students in GUI design with no clue on how to present the information to users. And everything else is just a mess in itself hidden behind a ton of useless animations.
In contrary, iOS just looks easy to use, clean, beautiful. You have your phone and that's it, not extra useless UI concepts and distractions. They are nice for a demo, but for daily usage, they rapidly get useless.
Then you continue with the Zune pass, noting that it is better than iTunes, but in what regard? You are strange enough to like the Zune pass, that does not make it better than the iTunes model. Again non objective argument.
Best integration of Facebook in WP7? Is it a big deal or even a nice feature? The question is if it is really a good thing. Why should I have all my contact and photos all mixed up in an almost uncontrollable mess? Someone objective would surely recognize that such exaggerated integration of Facebook just makes little sense. A well designed app is more than enough to access the Facebook content without having to have all the time friends and non-friends popping up with messages and photos. Distractive and useless like the UI of WP7.
And what about not being more reserved with the major shortcomings of WP7. How many times we have been told about the lack of multitasking in iOS? And now an os comes to a market where all the other mobiles os have multitasking and this is not called a deal breaker! It is a deal breaker, not having multitasking on WP7 is just inexcusable from Microsoft.
Same thing with copy and paste, in 2010 an smart phone should have an efficient copy and past implemented, and WP7 not having it is a total shame. Sure, most implementation out there sucks, and only the iOS has a real efficient and easy to use implementation, but that does not forgive Microsoft for that.
What about also the significant lack of unified mail box in the email app, the lack of robust security features, the lack of tethering, the clumsy Exchange support, the pour performing third party apps, the lack of universal search, the excessive $14.99 for zune pass, the inexcusable lack for support of HTML5 which is even more unacceptable as the os does not support flash either, no YouTube app, weird interface concept when you need to long press to reach some options and in-app menus, etc...
The list is long, WP7 is surely full of animations but it is little functional. And the authors fail to give an objective review of this system which is new but far behind the competition. Having a different UI style does not make this os more functional or even attractive. It just sacrifices too much on real usability for bringing useless UI concepts. The authors wishing so much that their lovely Microsoft brings something to save itself from the mobile market that they have forgotten what objectivity means.
dustcrusher - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkIt's a review. Reviews are inherently subjective. The only parts that aren't are the benchmarks, and even those are arguably not 100% objective. I think at points they were gushing over what worked well but there were other points where they did bring up some valid objections, even if they tinted them a little with rose-colored glasses.
Thanks to this review, I learned enough to realize I'm probably better off going to an Android phone when I am able (disclosure: I'm on WinMo 6 right now). Android simply fits my wants and needs better. I don't see WP7 taking giant chunks of market share from Apple or Android, but I think it will do better than WinMo did.
Microsoft is trying to do something different; seems like they are trying to make a smartphone that is as easy to use as a featurephone. It's risky but it could pay off big time. If their sole intention was to cram all of Android and iOS's features into their new OS, it'd be closer to WinMo 6.6 w/HTC's UI shell on top.
A couple of reviewers decided they like the way WP7 does some things. You are clearly happy with your iPhone, so why are you letting it bother you so much? Do you really want to come off as a trollish fanboy? Reply
cjl - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkHave you read any of Anand's Iphone reviews? If anything, Anand is biased towards the iphone at the expense of pretty much anything else, so the fact that this review is so positive speaks volumes about the phone.
Also, to everyone complaining about the interface, you should really try using a Zune HD sometime. It's amazing how natural the interface is. Reply
headrush69 - Sunday, October 24, 2010 - linkThere is a big difference between saying an interface is natural to use over saying it is a thing of beauty.
Frankly many of the screen shots make elements of the interface look very basic, dated and rushed.
Example: plain square flat buttons on call screen, on/off toggles in setting screen.
Of course these things are pretty trivial to improve and I'm sure they will, but statements like this in the article
"The UI is a thing of beauty. Microsoft got the style, customization and performance one hundred percent right on this thing. It makes iOS feel old and utilitarian."
I just can't agree with and believe exactly the opposite. Reply
Smilin - Monday, October 25, 2010 - linkHave YOU seen the UI? Not screenshot of it. Have you seen it? Used it?
Your opinion is worthless. Reply
Smilin - Monday, October 25, 2010 - linksmells like hater in here.
Sorry man but this is the most comprehensive and *objective* review I've seen yet. Most of the things you're griping about are IN the article. Did you read it? Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkIt cant play avi files? What do you call a $500 device that cant play avi files? FAIL. Reply
beefnot - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkI'm so sick of seeing "fail" in user comments. 99% of the time, it follows a point or points being made that wouldn't have swayed them to deem it worthy anyway. YAWN. Reply
mutatio - Friday, October 22, 2010 - linkI'm glad you guys found it to be as smooth and useful as you did. Based on what you described and the corresponding pictures, however, I'm having a hard time understanding something "just works" when the UI looks like a crap sandwich and almost makes my eyes bleed. "No, we don't use those oh-so-80's icons that graphically represent what the App does. We're much too posh for that, minimalist traffic signs for everything! Brilliant!" Maybe it'll be different with hands on, but it looks like MS went out of their way to try and make this thing look clever and almost abstract. Think myspace made into a smartphone, and if you're like me and think that myspace pages more often look like pop culture chewed up, swallowed, and thrown up onto a web page, then you get where I'm coming from. If that is the case when I get my hands on one of these, I can't see how MS can get any significant traction in the smartphone market. They might get some young emo hipsters who dig the abstract layout, but the appeal thus far of iOS and Android is the overall ease of use. My impression from your review, despite your reassurances, is that MS has again made a product much more complicated than it needs to be. I hope for MS' sake that is not the case when actually using the phone. Reply
MacGyver85 - Saturday, October 23, 2010 - linkYou'll just have to try it to appreciate it I guess.
I can understand people when they say the interface looks bland or overly simplistic based on "screenshots" of the UI. But when you see it in person it's so much better. Really.
Likewise with how you navigate around it. It's just so intuitive you don't for a second have to think how to do something. Every time someone asks me if what it's like I always respond that they'll have to use it themselves. And everyone that does loves it. Seriously :)
Dare I use it but what the hell: it just works! Reply
DJJoeJoe - Saturday, October 23, 2010 - linkI don't think any OS at this point can grab a drastic number of market share like we see in the phone space obviously, or even the slightly slower moving browser space. Modern Operating Systems are so mature at this point that there is really little you can do, both Win7 and Snow Leopard were just small refinements to their previous versions.
I think it's doubtful that even something as force-ably drastic as Chrome OS will do anything to the landscape either, even if Google bucketed down and really nailed it. Sadly the market share is ruled by the people going to costco and grabbing up a pre made pc, or large corps running xp, and I can't see something drastic being sold to either groups in the next handful of years.
tis all in the phones these days, and I wish I had a time machine so I could get the second wave of hopefully nicer wp7 handsets and maybe a good update to the os itself. Don't got the money to spend on a 'amazing start'. Reply
Sabresiberian - Monday, October 25, 2010 - linkLooks to me like Vista's bad press helped Apple reach 9% market share, but that's as far as they've moved up. Win 7 is sweet and everyone knows it so Apple is no longer making headway.
I don't want Microsoft execs to think that way though - like was written in the article, I think Microsoft performs better as an underdog, and if they think more in terms of being threatened by Apple or someone else then perhaps they'll be more inclined to put a shining example of what they can do out on the market.
Glad to see Microsoft did produce a product with some shine.
;) Reply
dotroy - Thursday, October 28, 2010 - linkWindows 7 phone is good ...umm ..some things not as good ..but win7 phone is good, there are somethings done better by others OS but win 7 phone is good. I never felt like this before. This is a paid advertising. Anand is making good money. Reply
pete2s - Thursday, October 28, 2010 - linkWill Windows 7 Phone store apps on the ROM partition? If so, this severely limits the number and size of apps as well as their quality.
Although Android is evolving past this limitation, Android, Blackberry and Palm phones store the OS and all apps on an encrypted partition referred to in the specs as the ROM. Usually, this ROM is 512MB. After the OS is installed, the phone has less than 300MB for apps.
Initially, I thought Windows 7 Phone would not store apps on the ROM because of its unified storage system that creates a single volume. If this were the case, however, there'd be no point in having a larger ROM because the ROM would only be holding the OS + the 60MB limit of pre-installed software. Some phones, like the Samsung Focus, do have larger ROMs though (1GB compared to 512MB). The only point of having a larger ROM would be to store more apps because apps are installed to the ROM.
If the above is true, Windows 7 Phone will be severely limited in app size and thus development. Reply
drwho9437 - Monday, November 01, 2010 - link"It's almost as if Microsoft is taking Apple's approach and simply letting everyone build iPhones."
Exactly and it is genius, it means the cost margin will vanish and the experience will still be as the software people want, people won't think poorly of these phones just because of a few badly designed devices they used. Let's hope it works out. Reply
owbert - Monday, November 01, 2010 - linkbest review of win7 phone amongst others. great work! Reply
x0rg - Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - linkTo me it looks like Microsoft just needed to release something ASAP. Later they can work on interface improvement, I mean fonts, sizes, blocks, text location, easy shortcut access, backups, etc. There are tons of things to improve. Reply
landswipe - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - link"The downside to this layout is that every time you want to enter a different URL, you'll have to rotate to portrait, enter it, and then swap back. Same if you want to change tabs or use a favorite. That can get a bit frustrating if you're used to viewing pages in landscape, but not totally killer. There's an impressively fluid rotation transition between portrait and landscape, however."
Same theme through the whole article...
Little Upside... bit more downside... a little frustrated?... but HEY come on we are friends!!! there is some cool animation by our designers to make up for it all :D <cheesy grin>
It stinks of slight of hand, and overall sounds like an epic fail waiting to happen... This just won't compete.
As a developer, I don't think the apps/games produced are going to cut it... With Android and iPhone you can at least write cross platform opengl games in C++. dotNet is just pure lock-in.
I hope they sell just enough of these things to put an early end to it... I have a feeling a lot of people are going to get fooled. Reply
jeans_xp - Sunday, November 07, 2010 - linkIt's bad news for us, AMOLED is not used.
www.mobilegoing.com Reply
vhx - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkOnly problems I have are no custom ring tones (really now...). No messenger support yet. No clue about 3rd party apps, no one is talking about it. Will it be like Android or the tight control Apple has? I couldn't find any article talking about this. Reply
DKant - Saturday, November 13, 2010 - linkI got through 15 pages and that was it. I have already decided this is my next mobile-platform anyway (unless I start hearing rumors of a hologram-projecting iPhone 5), no point reading the remaining 200. I can't imagine the amount of patience it must have taken to WRITE this behemoth! :) Of course it's your job, you've been doing this forever etc, but still.
Man, finally. A "proper" competitor to iOS, which was getting a little stale. And I have too many issues with Google's approach to consider any of the quadrillion models on offer.
Well. I do hope WP7 sells and lives longer than the Palm. :_(
(And I'd never imagined I'd finish a post with this..)
To Microsoft!! Reply
CSMR - Saturday, November 13, 2010 - linkVery informative review, but shouldn't this site be serving people who are technically minded rather than the average consumer?
There is no question WP7 has a lot of excellent points.
But I'm not sure how you can accept a system that does away with files, and uses a limited sync system to move content around in approved ways.
Or call software "The Best Smartphone for Music Lovers" when:
- it believes that music consists of "songs" written by "artists" and put into "albums", when only a minor part of the history of western music is of this form
- it does not allow a folder structure for navigation, only limited tags of the above form
- gapless playback is incomplete
Microsoft needs prodding to update the system in a way that retains the new features and GUI but also implements the basic features. If it doesn't get this from tech sites, where are we left? Perhaps Windows 8 will decide Turing completeness is no longer important, people just need to be able to do x, y, and z as simply as possible. I'm sure there are a lot of people at Microsoft who want WP7 to be a real OS - without changing usability. They just need a bit of support. Reply
Millsington - Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - linkExcellent point about folder navigation, I had forgotten about that. It is sorely missed in modern music players.
Sadly, I don't see the issues you raised being addressed for some time unless WP7 really takes off. Reply
billybarker - Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - linkCheck out these Windows Phone 7 Application Icons - there are 350 icons in the set. http://goo.gl/rMk08 Reply
warden6 - Friday, November 19, 2010 - linkI've had my HTC 7 Mozart for a fortnight. I like it. I like the big square icons on the Start screen (although I've toned down the colour as much as possible); I like the integration with Google Mail, Contacts and Calendar (yes it does work, set it up as an Exchange server); I like the threaded conversations for texts like the iPhone; the music player is good; oh, and it's not a bad phone either.
There are some issues -- there's no Messenger client, gapless track playback is haphazard to say the least, there's a limited range of alerts/ringtones and you can't add more, and battery life is a bit short. Especially with push email. Hopefully some of those can be fixed, but they're definitely not deal-breakers for me.
What I can't figure out is how to do "Inverse" on the scientific view of the calculator. No inverse-sin, inverse-log, etc. That's not a deal-breaker either, I don't use those very often! But it's an odd omission. Reply
anistoona - Sunday, November 21, 2010 - link" but while home I don't use those apps as much. Instead my smartphone behaves more like an SMS, phone, email, camera and web browsing device, and it's in those areas that Windows Phone is easily just as good as the competition."
With all my respect: If I need only the SmS, phone, email, Camera and web borwisng things form my handheld device, I would like to buy a 150$ Symbian phone, I don't need to buy an up to 700$ smartphone to do that things!!
WinMob 5, 6.x was the system which puts the definition of what " Smart Phones" should capable of, and disappointingly Microsoft chose to give up that system and replaced with a modified copy of Old, aged and discontinued competitors system ( I mean first generation of iOS ) ..
Really good choice Microsoft ! Reply
Hrel - Friday, December 03, 2010 - linkAm I the only one who sees that the "brown" option for the UI color is red? Am I losing my sight? My tv is adjusted perfectly to THX standards. All the other colors look right. Or is it just the camera you used to take the shot? Reply
Hrel - Saturday, December 04, 2010 - linkAs far as I'm concerned any phone that doesn't have a "fine me" feature with the ability to lock it doesn't even exist. Seriously, why has it taken SOOO long to have this? It should be standard on all phones. Now I want to be able to make my phone the key for my car. Reply
Hrel - Sunday, December 05, 2010 - linkI'm the same as your dad. I mean I want to view everything is the proper aspect ratio; but I also REALLY want usefull pixels filling the whole screen. That's why I wish everything was just filmed in 16:9. I mean, that's plenty wide. When I want movies on DVD I just zoom in once so the whole screen is filled and with the exception of far right/left text in some movies I honestly don't miss out on anything. It doesn't cut off very much on the sides and really when you're filming who's gonna point the camera so where you're supposed to be looking is at the edge of view? No one. 16:9 is the only aspect ratio visual media should be in. That way everything is uniform and just fits. Reply
Hrel - Sunday, December 05, 2010 - linkie no trade offs Reply
natewaddoups - Friday, December 23, 2011 - linkThe article mentioned the confusing behavior of IE's back button... The confusion starts when you open IE from the start menu, because at that point IE throws away your browsing history, so that the back-button will return you to the start menu. It makes sense if you were opening IE to look at a new web page, but it's maddening if you were opening IE to resume a browsing session that had useful stuff in the web navigation history.
The workaround is to switch to IE by holding down the back-button and selecting IE from the list of running apps. That opens IE without throwing away your browsing history, so that the back-button continues to work for web navigation.
I actually removed the IE tile from the start menu, just to prevent myself from accidentally throwing out the browser history. I've always got two or three tabs open in IE, with meaningful history in each tab, so it was always aggravating to press the back button and get kicked back to the start menu.
If you'd like to see this fixed in a future version of Windows Phone, please vote for it here:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-fe... Reply


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Between 2008 and 2012, institutions and individuals in Colorado received $7.7 million from the National Endowment for the Humanities and Colorado Humanities for projects that explore the human endeavor and preserve our cultural heritage.
Below are some examples.
- Three grants totaling $478,500 enabled 130 teachers to attend workshops at the Crow Canyon Archaeological Center in Cortez on the archaeology, history, and culture of the Pueblo Indians, focusing on tribes in the Mesa Verde region.
- A $100,000 grant enabled the Molly Brown House Museum, Denver, one of the most visited historic house museums in the West, to produce a short documentary film, present interpretive panels, and place interactive multimedia kiosks for the permanent exhibition Molly Brown: The Biography of a Changing Nation.
- The University of Denver's Museum of Anthropology received a $6,000 grant for a preservation training workshop and to rehouse the Franktown and Kenton Caves Organic Archaeological Collections, which consist of 670 rare and fragile archaeological objects.
- Colorado libraries received $17,500 to help defray programming and exhibition expenses incurred in bringing three traveling exhibitions to local public and university libraries: Lincoln: The Constitution and the Civil War, Pride and Passion: The African American Baseball Experience, and Manifold Greatness: The Creation and Afterlife of the King James Bible.
- The Bessemer Historical Society received $510,000 to process, arrange, and describe records on the mining and steel industries between 1872 and 1993 from the Colorado Fuel and Iron Company, the American West's first iron and steel mill.
- The Colorado Historical Society received a $367,000 grant to expand "Old Stories New Voices Intercultural Youth Program," developing the award-winning program for use in Texas, Pennsylvania, and Nebraska. Over the three years of the grant, the camp for underserved 9- to 12-year-olds hosted nearly two hundred at-risk youth.
- How did colonists choose which side to support in the American Revolution? This question is explored by Virginia Anderson, a scholar at the University of Colorado, Boulder, in her forthcoming book The Martyr and the Traitor: Choosing Sides in the American Revolution. Research for this study has been supported by two fellowship awards totaling $55,400.
- Every February, Colorado Humanities sponsors Black History Live, a touring program featuring Hasan Davis, a noted poet, storyteller, and scholar, who does live interpretations of prominent African Americans such as York, the only black member of the 1803 Lewis and Clark expedition, and boxer Joe Louis. This free public program reaches more than 2,000 children and adults annually.
- Libraries in Greeley, Littleton, Denver, and Garfield County, through Colorado Humanities, have hosted "Making Sense of the Civil War," a five-part, scholar-led reading and discussion series developed by NEH and the American Library Association.

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Is this only on 6.1.3? I don't see it on my iPhone or my iPad. Both on 6.1.2.
Or the MLP app from GameLoft that is ridiculously over priced.
I think every app in the App Store now has In-App-Purchases. Even the free apps now have something you can purchase.
I had an app yesterday update and its now got IAP.
I think the worst are the paid for apps with IAP. WHY are the paid apps with extra IAP? Thats just wrong. If you pay for it you should already have all of it. Free apps are the ones with IAP not paid apps.
They might as well not put that line in the App Store as every app has them. Its so common the line should be "NO IAP" and you probably wont ever see it.
It's one thing for a paid app to have IAP for extra coins or to unlock all the levels early, I understand that, but the paid apps that have an IAP that adds new levels to the game is crazy.


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DUBIOUS applications for foreign worker visas have been approved because rules prevented officials from investigating their suspicions, the federal government argues.
Following the government's move to tighten the skilled-worker 457 visa program, the Immigration Minister, Brendan O'Connor, has outlined specific examples in an attempt to back up his claims that the scheme has been rorted by unscrupulous employers.
But employer groups have insisted this kind of dodgy behaviour was rare. And the opposition has questioned the role of Mr O'Connor's union leader brother, Michael, in driving the changes.
The Australian Mines and Metals Association said the prospect of jeopardising the resources industry's contribution to the nation due to a few isolated incidents was ''completely absurd''.
A business can sponsor a worker for a 457 visa if they cannot find an appropriately skilled Australian citizen or permanent resident. By December, there were about 84,000 people on such visas in Australia.
Mr O'Connor has flagged plans to tighten the system, including restricting labour hire arrangements and ensuring the Department of Immigration and Citizenship can crack down on rorts by ensuring that employers provide the information necessary during the application process.
The opposition has questioned the role of Michael O'Connor, the national secretary of the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union, in making the decision to amend the visa rules.
The union has campaigned heavily to change the laws around 457 visas, but were less successful under Mr O'Connor's predecessor, Chris Bowen.


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HIGH-FREQUENCY traders could soon be held directly responsible for out of control algorithms and manipulative trading strategies, with the federal government considering reforms to the licensing regime under which they operate in Australia.
The recommendation is part of a regulatory push by the federal government to protect the integrity of the securities market as concerns grow about high-frequency traders and off-market exchanges.
Minister for Financial Services Bill Shorten released a paper on Friday discussing options for reforming Australia's financial market licensing regime.
The government has asked federal Treasury to consider whether high-frequency traders (HFTs) ought to be subject to the same market integrity rules that govern other market participants.
At the moment, some HFTs are run by ''non-market participants'', some of which are based overseas. These are not required to hold an Australian financial services licence.
That means that if these non-market participant HFTs manipulate the stockmarket, or fail to maintain control of their algorithms, the Australian Securities and Investments Commission cannot penalise them directly. ASIC can only penalise the market participant that provided them access to the market.
''There is an argument that changes to the regulatory framework should be made so that the HF traders themselves bear the regulatory burden directly, and provide some improved protection to market participants that are providing market access for HF traders,'' the paper said.
''This would improve the effectiveness of market integrity rules relating to HFT activity, and would more fairly share the compliance load.''
The paper forms part of a broader review of the framework for financial market licensing in Australia, which was designed in 2001.
It comes after ASIC last month announced new market integrity rules for high-speed traders and dark pools in a bid to resolve concerns about changes in the structure of the local equity market.
''The framework for financial market licensing in Australia … was designed in 2001 with public exchanges in mind, and did not anticipate the extent of financial market evolution that has occurred since,'' the paper says.
''As a result, the system has not kept up with changing regulatory needs.''
The paper says that, although both dark pools and HFT activity benefit the market, there are also some potential drawbacks that have lead to a review of the regulatory approach.
''These include the risk of excessive market volatility and potentially increased scope for market manipulation from HFT activity, and the potential loss of investor protection and lit market price discovery from dark pool trading,'' the paper said.
The Australian Securities Exchange has welcomed the review of the licensing regime governing both dark pools and high-frequency traders.
''The market's evolution has generated issues that need considering,'' a spokesman said.
''ASX believes that all trading venues should be licensed and subject to ASIC's direct regulatory oversight. The rules that apply to trade execution and their commercial terms should be transparent and fully disclosed to investors.''


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Generic Name: megestrol (me-JES-trol)
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HOUSTON - Burglars took a woman's high-end electronics and her 8-year-old Yorkie.
Sarah Louviere said she arrived at the Broadstone Uptown Lofts, 3363 McCue, on Monday night and found that someone had broken into her home.
"They weren't able to kick the door in, so they actually pried it open with a crowbar," Louviere said. "It was a steel door, so it was all bent and the deadbolt was broken."
Louviere said her electronic items were gone, and so was her little dog.
"I just saw that the door was open, so I pushed it open a little and I called for my dog," she said. "When she didn't come and I saw the furniture was flipped over, I didn't enter the apartment at all."
Louviere said she can deal with losing her electronics, but losing her Yorkie, named Anna, has left her heartbroken.
"My dog is like my kid, so I definitely miss her," she said. "That's the biggest part of what has happened. The other things are materialistic, they can be replaced but the dog is the biggest concern."
Anyone with information about the break-in, or Anna's whereabouts, is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 713-222-TIPS.
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A British man who mistakenly handed bags of cocaine instead of sweets to a police officer's children out trick-or-treating has been given community service.
Apprentice panel beater Donald Junior Green fished in his pockets for a bag of sweets to give to the youngsters but instead pulled out a plastic pack containing eight snap bags of cocaine he had bought earlier that day, Oldham Magistrates' Court heard on Monday.
He dropped the drugs into the goody bags carried by the three children, aged eight, six and five, who were out playing trick or treat, escorted by their father, an off-duty policeman.
The 23-year-old defendant then closed the door, went back inside the house and put his hand in his pockets to get out his drugs - but instead pulled out the sweets.
Green immediately realised what had happened and went on foot, then by car, scouring the streets of Oldham to find the youngsters.
But the officer, Constable Simon Fowell, had taken his children home and, as they emptied their goody bags to share the spoils, he spotted the drugs - and made a swift call to his on-duty colleagues.
Green, who had never been in trouble with police before, has a job and attends college, wiped his eyes with his hands as he stood in the dock and admitted a single charge of possessing a Class A drug on October 31.
He was given a 12-month community order, ordered to do 130 hours community work and told he must pay court costs.


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Nokia's Lumia 920 smartphone is red hot. And I mean that every which way.
It's red in the sense that our review unit came in a colour that could only be described as fire-engine red. And it's hot in the sense it's one of the hottest new phones on the market, due to its beautiful industrial design, its absolutely terrific screen and camera, and its very stylish new operating system, Windows Phone 8 from Microsoft.
Our fire-engine red Lumia 920 (price $829) is also red hot in the sense that we've been charging it on a wireless charging mat (wireless charging being one of the exciting new features on the phone), and the electromagnetic induction process has heated it up considerably. Not so hot you could fry an egg on it, but definitely hot enough to reheat one. Although that may be no fault of the phone: our review model didn't come with a Nokia wireless charging mat (they're an optional extra) so we used another brand. Maybe that caused the phone to heat up.
The Lumia 920 doesn't only have wireless charging up its sleeve. It also has near field communication (NFC) and Bluetooth, and those three wireless functions combined will make for some great add-ons. You can already get a speaker dock that will play music from the Lumia 920 while charging it when all you've done is sit it on the speaker. Nifty peripherals like that are a big part of the appeal of the phone, which we find very appealing indeed.
In the week we've been using the Lumia 920, the feature that has most jumped out at us is the camera. An 8.7 megapixel number with optical image stabilisation, it's just great. In the bright outdoors, indoors and in our testing lab, it produced punchy, sharp images that were much better than the iPhone 5 against which we tested it, which itself has a very good camera. Indeed, the difference between the two phones was so great, we found ourselves double and triple checking that we didn't accidentally have the iPhone on some crippled, low-res setting. But, no, the Lumia just makes the iPhone look low res. At ISO 100, its slowest setting, the Lumia was all over the iPhone 5 in every respect: sharpness, noise levels, colour density, dynamic range, you name it. Even at ISO 800, its highest setting, the Lumia rivalled an iPhone 5 set to ISO 64. Take the Nokia out at night, and the fast usable ISO coupled with the optical image stabilisation would be an absolutely killer.
There are also a number of camera filters available as add-ons from the App Store, such as filters to make your photos look like old-fashioned Polaroids, which should bring some comfort to Instagram addicts, although not much. Windows Phone 8 still lacks a dedicated Instagram app, a fairly glaring omission in what is slowly becoming a reasonably rounded-out list of apps for the platform.
There's still no Swype, either, due to the security set-up on Windows Phone 8, which prevents third-party keyboards.
Microsoft says there are now Windows Phone 8 versions of 46 of the top 50 apps in the world, although it won't say what the missing four apps are. It's still fair to say that if you're thinking of switching to a Windows Phone device, you should check your favourite apps are supported.
And there's plenty of reason to switch. The Live Tiles in Windows Phone 8, which show live app data such as incoming emails and Facebook photos, are simply terrific. We prefer Live Tile email notifications to the default Android and iOS email notifications by a country mile.
But there are a few things that need fixing. Multitasking is not as good as it is on Android – things sometimes pause or even restart when they're relegated to the background – and app switching should be more like it is in Windows 8, where you can just glide between open apps.
The lack of unified, contextual search, another strength in Windows 8, is a bit disappointing in Windows Phone 8, too, often leading to a strange situation of having two search buttons on the screen at the same time. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 are designed to be quite similar, but they're not quite similar enough for our tastes.
But they're niggling complaints on a device with so much going for it, it's easy to forgive its flaws.
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Oil and the Future of Energy
Michael Lynch, President and Director of Global Petroleum Service, Strategic Energy and Economic Research Inc. (SEER)
Friday, September 14, 2012, 3:30pm
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This seminar is part of the Jones Seminars on Science, Technology, and Society series.
Much of the debate about the future of energy revolves around impressionistic and subjective judgments. A careful examination of many of the beliefs, such as price expectations and pollution fears, suggests that many of them are not well-founded in facts, with even many apparent experts falling short in their analyses. The current situation strongly resembles the oil crises of the 1970s, when many predicted ever-rising prices, wars over petroleum, and an imminent move to shale oil, electric vehicles, photovoltaics, and other 'new energies,' all of which failed to deliver. We are likely to see a repeat in coming years, and oil and gas will continue to play a major role in energy consumption in the future, with some technologies now being touted returning to the research laboratory.
About the Speaker
Michael Lynch has over twenty years' experience analyzing international energy, particularly oil and gas markets. He has numerous publications in four languages and speaks regularly at international conferences. He is the primary author of Global Petroleum SEER and Global Petroleum Outlook, which provide short- and long-term oil market analyses. Mr. Lynch's previous work has included computer modeling of the world oil market and estimation of the economics of supply for both world oil and natural gas, including LNG supply, and market behavior under normal and disrupted conditions. He has also given testimony and advice to committees of the U.S. Congress and the United Nations, the World Bank, and the International Energy Agency. Before coming to Strategic Energy & Economic Consulting , Inc., Mr. Lynch was Vice President of Oil Services at WEFA, Inc. Prior to coming to WEFA he was Director, Asian Energy and Security, at the Center for International Studies, M.I.T., as well as a Lecturer in the Diplomatic Training Program at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, Tufts University. Prior to that, he held a number of research positions at M.I.T., as well as serving as a senior associate for the Washington International Energy Group. His work consisted primarily of advising corporations, governments, and industry associations on world oil and gas markets and energy security policy.


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It may seem like another bright spot in the housing market: New foreclosure proceedings fell by nearly 22 percent in October, according to Lender Processing Services. In fact, the drop is likely temporary, driven by a change in regulations that took effect in September.
The federal government's National Mortgage Settlement with the country's five largest mortgage servicers requires servicers to provide written notice to homeowners 14 days before referring a delinquent loan to a foreclosure attorney. This has resulted in a "temporary slowdown in foreclosure starts that we do not believe is indicative of a longer-term trend," said Herb Blecher, a senior vice president of Lender Processing Services, in a statement.
Foreclosure starts also declined by nearly 48 percent on a year-over-year basis, leading to a nearly 7 percent drop in overall foreclosure inventory. Part of this may be due to rising home prices, which is increasing homeowners' equity, allowing many to refinance to a lower mortgage rate.
Another reason could be the increase in mortgage modifications this past fall -- also part of the National Mortgage Settlement. At the end of the year, the Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act of 2007 expires. The act allows homeowners who received a reduction in principal to avoid paying tax on the amount of the debt that was forgiven. On Jan. 1, unless Congress extends it, homeowners will owe taxes on debt relief.
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Kosher: The term "kosher" refers to foods that are in accord with Kashrut, the set of Jewish dietary laws that regulate what foods may and may not be eaten, and how food is processed. Without getting into the full history of the term "kosher," the basic idea refers to food that has been inspected and certified by a rabbi to ensure that the food, including all sources of the ingredients and the facility, meets the dietary laws of Judaism.
Today, these foods represent far more than adherence to religious laws; "kosher" means that the facility and the sources of the ingredients used meet strict quality and cleanliness standards. Muslims, vegans and those with severe dairy allergies can look to kosher symbols as a way to navigate the label.
At Bob's Red Mill, we use two kosher symbols. The first, a simple K, represents that the product has been inspected and approved by our certifying agency, Kehilla Kosher. The second, K-D means that the product contains dairy. Because we do not have fish or meat in our facility, we do not use any other kosher symbols. All Bob's Red Mill products are certified kosher. We know that our kosher symbol is not as widely recognized as some others and we are happy to provide contact information for Kehilla Kosher as requested. Please feel free to contact our customer service team to inquire about our certifying agency.
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Max Mara Fall 2012
As a general rule in Italy, more is more. So it's not surprising, perhaps it's even understandable, to witness a refined and classic Milan-based house like MaxMara getting carried away with accessories. The mariners caps, knee-high buckled spats, and suspenders that accompanied the clothes in this morning's fall show could have easily left the label lost at sea. But that wasn't the case, thanks to a chic, new structured bag and elegant coats and sweaters that sophisticated women will be clamoring to wear on land come autumn.
Aside from the more apparent maritime references—sparkly sailor-striped tops and super appealing large-scale peacoats—there was an underlying military rigor that has been a map point for many designers this season. At casa MaxMara, the restraint of a leather pencil skirt was balanced by an alligator devoré–pattern knit turtleneck, and the straight lines of sweeping coats (welcome aboard, double-face cashmere) were as sharp as hospital corners. Towards evening is when things softened up with silky, sensual ivory cocktail dresses—long sleeves with deep necks and high slits—and pajama pants.
But back to those coats. They are where MaxMara excels, and this season, done in navy, army green, and light beige, they had roomy cocoon shapes and dropped waists anchored by smart leather belts. They gave exactly the right amount of volume for women who like the season's oversize look but don't want to feel like they're drowning in their clothes.
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ATHENS—Stocking of keeper-size channel catfish has begun for the 15 Neighborhood Fishin' lakes in Texas and should be completed by this coming weekend.
Additional stockings will take place every two weeks through the summer and fall except during August, when high water temperatures may limit fish survival.
"Neighborhood Fishin' aims to give Texas families a good place to fish close to where they live," said Dave Terre, TPWD's director of research and management for Inland Fisheries. "We estimate that more than 50,000 people a year participate in the program, and more than half of those are children. Connecting kids to the outdoors through fishing makes them happier and healthier, and they do better in school. Outdoor lifestyles also strengthen families."
Stocking is a key component of Neighborhood Fishin', which encourages people to harvest fish and take them home to eat. Channel catfish are stocked from April through October, and rainbow trout are stocked in winter months.
Local sponsors play a key role in the Neighborhood Fishin' program by providing funds to purchase additional fish beyond those made possible by statewide support from the Texas Bass Classic Foundation and the federal Sport Fish Restoration Program. Cities and counties where Neighborhood Fishin' lakes are located purchase some fish in addition to providing facilities at the sites.
Tarrant County Neighborhood Fishin' lakes also benefit from the financial support of the Sportsmen's Club of Fort Worth, the Nell V. Bailey Charitable Trust and the Meta Alice Keith Bratten Foundation. "Having local partners such as these makes the program stronger and larger and allows us to bring more people into fishing," Terre said.
"We target metropolitan areas with populations of 100,000 or more, and we would welcome additional partners in any such area," Terre said.
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Finally, Everyman's Ship
|The Selene 47 goes to sea, then keeps going.
Have you ever gazed up at the captain of a ship--a real ship--as he leans over the coaming of his bridge deck, way up there, and oversees his world? Sure you have, and for a fleeting moment, your Walter Mitty emerged and you saw yourself in complete charge of a floating behemoth and of all those who keep it afloat and functioning. That's the nature of boaters--we always aspire to the next step up, not just in size, but in function.
Well, it's probably unlikely that you will soon conn a 900-foot bulk carrier. But step from the pilothouse onto the wing deck of the new Selene 47 Ocean Trawler, and while you're leaning over that varnished coaming--on most of us about midchest high--you'll get a darn good feel for what you're missing. And that feeling is no illusion, either. This hefty (44,500-pound displacement) ballasted trawler is designed to roam the same waters the big guys do. And with her 1,000-gallon fuel capacity feeding diesel to her easy-sippin' single 220-hp keel-cooled Cummins 6BT5.9M1, you'll go about as far as they do, too. Thanks to a better than 2,500-mile range, there are a lot of fuel docks you won't visit.
Okay, that's about it for big-ship comparisons. The Selene 47's flawless vinylester-resined, gelcoated hull is about as far as you can get from the rust-streaked and battered sides of your basic bulk carrier. You won't get to the next port as quickly either. That Cummins cruises the Selene at about 12 mph at 2000 rpm and pushes her to 15 mph at a wide open throttle of 2600 rpm. You'll probably get a couple of more mph if you plunk down an additional $36,475 for twin 220-hp Cummins, but considering the Selene's displacement hull, the added speed won't amount to much.
Naturally, in a displacement hull like this--especially in one designed to go far offshore--the greatest advantage of twins is the get-home advantage in the unlikely event one engine goes down. Of course, the single-engine configuration does not have that capability, but for an additional $30,563 you can opt for a Yanmar 3JH3E 36-hp diesel geared to the main shaft that can be clutched on line in an emergency. Also, her 12-kW Westerbeke genset is powered by a four-cylinder diesel engine. It wouldn't be a great stretch of imagination, or technology, to consider an aftermarket conversion of that Westerbeke to get-home power.
This article originally appeared in the January 2003 issue of Power & Motoryacht magazine.


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Colors like camel, khaki, and Army green can be incorporated into any wardrobe. A simple white tee, tank, or blouse is key for bottoms. Tops go great with jeans.
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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - For the 30th consecutive year, the John P. Hall, Sr. Children's Charity will be holding their Christmas Party to benefit underprivileged children on Dec. 17, from 8 a.m. to 12 p.m. at the Clay County Fairgrounds, located in Green Cove Springs.
Over the past 30 years, more than 42,000 Clay County children have enjoyed a Christmas that might not have been possible.
"I am so proud to be a part of this Christmas tradition, which my father started back in 1981 to carry on my grandfather's work of helping the underprivileged in Clay County," Virginia Hall said, president of J.P. Hall Charities. "Last year, we were able to make Christmas a little better for more than 2,000 kids. We are excited to once again bring smiles to the faces of children and hope to continue to do so for years to come."
The Christmas Party provides children from newborn to 14 years old with a bag of new toys, based on age and gender. Children may also select one gently-used toy and bicycles will be given out randomly throughout the party. In conjunction with the Orange Park Clothes Closet, families will also be able to receive free clothing for the entire family. Partygoers will be treated to hotdogs, sodas and popcorn and entertainers will be performing Christmas carols for all to enjoy.
The outside gates will close promptly at noon. Lines are expected to be long, but everyone in line before the gates close at noon will receive a gift. Children must be present to collect their gift. All children must be accompanied by an adult. The party is open to any Clay County Resident and proof of residency is required.
For more information, log on to www.jphallcharities.com or call 284-7398 or 284-7541.
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