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AMD's A10-5750M Review, Part 2: The MSI GX60 Gaming Notebookby Dustin Sklavos on 6/29/2013 12:00 PM EST
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Darksurf - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkI can already see one reason why you had poor benchmarks. You are only using one stick of DDR3?! WHY? AMD APUs depend heavily upon dual channel. Reply
Bull Dog - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkClearly, you didn't read the article. Reply
Samus - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkDarksurf, even if they ran the tests with one DIMM, why would discrete graphics be impacted by a single memory channel? Reply
popej - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkAs I understand, video data form discrete GPU is transferred over PCIe to internal video buffer of APU, eating some memory bandwidth.
Pity there is no comparison with dual channels configuration. Reply
Alexvrb - Monday, July 01, 2013 - linkNot only are they only using a single channel, they're using DDR3-1600. The 5750M is unique in AMD's mobile lineup in that it supports DDR3-1866 out of the box - none of the Trinity mobile chips (or lesser Richland models) can claim this. Now granted, when relying on the discrete graphics this isn't going to make as big of a difference. But there will be some improvement running dual channel 1866. I also have to wonder if Enduro is causing issues as well.
I know they're trying to keep costs down, but I can't help but wonder if they'd be better off with a significantly cheaper model using a slower discrete GPU, perhaps even dual graphics. Reply
thesavvymage - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkthis laptop only HAS one slot for ddr3. Read the article before commenting Reply
thesavvymage - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkedit: has one ddr3 in it by stock Reply
perse - Thursday, January 23, 2014 - linkactually that depends where you buy it from. The one i bought has 2x4GB besides that i must say while alot of people are bashing this pc, i love it. Design of the case, ease of access to all parts, heat management are best i have ever seen in any laptop. Performance is bottlenecked by the cpu ofc but not as much as everyone are saying. My friend bought i5+nvidia 7xx series card, not sure which exactly and performance in most games is very similar, while he paid 150€ more for his.
I think benchmarks are also heavily influenced by drivers and switchable graphics compatibility. Reply
Darksurf - Monday, July 01, 2013 - linkI did read the article. I was baffled by the poor results and went back to the front to see if I missed something and I saw " 1x8GB A-Data DDR3-1600 ". Thats when it immediately realized a problem. If this laptop only has one slot for DDR3 then this design was hampered from the beginning and ready to limp to the starting lines.
Latest APUs have been given a boost to support up to 1866mhz. Because the GPU IS discrete it heavily depends on the RAM as there is no "dedicated memory" for the GPU. I'll wait to buy a laptop, and get one when AMD lightning bolt is released and I can buy a laptop with a richland APU and 1866mhz memory. Reply
relztes - Monday, July 01, 2013 - linkThat's incorrect. The 7970M has 2 GB of GDDR5 on a 256-bit memory interface. So the single channel memory is dedicated to the CPU only, and shouldn't hurt the 7970M performance.
Still, I don't really understand the point of pairing an APU with discrete graphics. I think as a combination of CPU + low end GPU, AMD's APUs are a great value. It makes a lot of sense in a laptop where you don't want the extra heat and power requirements of a discrete GPU to trade a little CPU performance for superior integrated graphics. But if you add a 7970M, then it makes sense to prioritize the CPU over the integrated graphics. Save Richland for where you need the integrated graphics. Reply
Death666Angel - Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - link"Because the GPU IS discrete it heavily depends on the RAM as there is no "dedicated memory" for the GPU."
Discrete GPU means that there is an extra GPU connected with the mainboard that has its own RAM supply, like a normal, PCIe desktop graphics card (dGPU). Integrated GPU (iGPU) means there is a GPU on the same package or die as the CPU (it used to mean that there is a GPU on the motherboard, but not anymore since a few years). That GPU has to use the system memory (RAM) in order to operate. You seem to be confusing the two. Reply
eanazag - Wednesday, July 03, 2013 - linkThe 1866 RAM really helps the iGPU in AMD APUs. The performance bump adding it to this specific machine is going to be less than we would hope. The reality is that if I were purchasing it I would be adding an SSD and RAM. I would go for the 1866 because the CPU supports is, but I wouldn't expect it to compete with Intel. I would just be hoping to eliminate those odd cases where the Trinity version was beating it. Reply
CNP-Keythai - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkThats right. Its surprising to see only one slot for RAM. Also the PC can take only 8 GB, I afraid. None of these make any sense to me. Reply
JarredWalton - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkThere are two SO-DIMM slots on the GX60; only one is populated on this particular model, but as shown the benefits of dual-channel RAM (especially with DDR3-1600 memory) are almost entirely targeted at iGPU usage. Reply
eanazag - Wednesday, July 03, 2013 - linkThis laptop supports 4 DDR3 slots for a total of 32GB and the A10-5705M supports 1866 RAM. In looking at the part 1 article numbers, they opted to put two sticks in and performance was better in relation to the previous Trinity generation. I believe including a total of two or four sticks of 1866 RAM should give this machine a boost. That is a question for the customer as the model they received ships with only 1 stick of 8GB @ 1600.
The concept of this whole notebook is to ship something the end user can upgrade; like the RAM and storage.
Specs from MSI:
http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GX60-Hitman-Edition.... Reply
tincmulc - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkIs it possible that cpu issues will be mitigated by the fact than both next generation consoles use 8 relatively slow cores? The Achilles' heel of the apu is single thread performance and since new console games will be optimized to run on more slower cores, the cpu part of the apu could finally be used to it's full potential. Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkI'd like to believe that. however, this part is only quad core, and the mobile i7s are quad core with eight thread...they might benefit more. what amd really needs to do is release a 45w part. intel's quad cores are all 45 watt, with the exception of the 3612m. if amd upped the tdp, they could push the cpu clock to something like 3.0/3.9 GHz, which might help make up the distance. or better yet, release the 45 watt model with the a4's gpu, since it would probably only be used in laptops like this. that would give the cpu even more power to work with. Reply
Rontalk - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkYes, future games will run better with slow CPU cores but fast GPU. 1-2 years and MSI GX60 gonna be good gaming machine. Reply
Khenglish - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkDustin how about putting in another memory stick and seeing how much of an improvement there is? This thing needs more CPU power and an extra $35 on memory might make the laptop acceptable. Reply
JMC2000 - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkThe results with dual-channel mode are in the article, sadly, it doesn't help much. Reply
Khenglish - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkHe ran some synthetic cpu tests of single vs dual. I expect a bigger cpu performance gain in real tests, and since the games tests are almost completely cpu limited, I expect some performance gain.
I find synthetic tests not to be very good for comparing how systems perform in real applications, especially futuremark tests.
Just testing a few games is all I ask. Reply
FwFred - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkAfter this review, I still feel we don't know too much about how good the Richland A10 is as a mobile CPU/iGPU. Why would anyone want an A10 in a high end gaming laptop? Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linki think that what msi should have done, is use a 7870m instead of a 7970m, and put it into a 14 inch frame. and lower the price to 700 or 800 bucks. then, it would be a good deal. at this price, the ge40 is a much better deal, as is the ge60 Reply
Rontalk - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkYeah, msi gx40 with A10 + 8870M Radeon for $800! Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkI would buy that in an instant. Reply
CainKorine - Thursday, July 11, 2013 - linkWell you could try a HP ENVY 15z-j000 ... with 16GB, Full HD 15'' monitor and backlight keyboard will set you back 749$ (lucky USA all over again, because by the time it gets to Europe, Kaveri will be released!). You could find an external review on notebookreview[dot]com forums (for some reason, I'm not allowed to post the link here, but is easy to find with google). Reply
hellermercer - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkhybrid gpu is benificial for battery and power saving efficiency if your not making graphics intensive application with this pc the A10 is good with its igpu u can shutdown the descrete one for battery saving purposes and it still the a10 has more frequency power but it lacks performance when two or more threads are being used with each core//.. Reply
landsome - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkMy GT663R with an i7-840QM and a 7970M gives the GX60 a solid thrashing, at least in terms of 3DM11 and 3DM13 scores - halfway between the GX60 and the M17x, and sometimes closer to the latter. Reply
erple2 - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkSure but this one lasts longer that 60 minutes on battery power idle at the desktop. Reply
landsome - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkWell, mine lasts 2. Without Enduro and the battery at 80% health and more than 2 years. And the CPU is 4 generations old. Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - link2 minutes? pretty good for that generation Reply
coolhardware - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkThank you for including SC2 gaming benchmarks! As I am trying to decide on an ideal system for SC2 (without being overkill), your results are very helpful to me in determining how important CPU performance is versus GPU performance. Thanks again :-) Reply
sheh - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkWhen will i5-4xxxM start coming the market?
The Intel Haswell announcement at the beginning month had me thinking it's out any day, but so far there are only i7s and U series CPUs, and no real info anywhere on the i5 Ms. Reply
JarredWalton - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkI expect we won't see the dual-core standard voltage Haswell chips for at least another month or two -- same thing happened with Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge, except we got SV before we got ULV. Now Intel is pushing ULV hard, so they launched those chips at the same time as the QC SV and desktop QC parts. Reply
sheh - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkThanks. Well, that's a crying shame. Looks I'll have to settle for an Ivy Bridge. Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkNo shame in that, Ivy is still a damn fine chip. Haswell is incremental. Reply
FwFred - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkIncremental for laptops? Do you carry your power cord everywhere? Reply
silverblue - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkI'd argue that Haswell is far more important in the mobile arena than it ever would be on the desktop. Still, is the difference actually that dramatic? Reply
JarredWalton - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkIt's a big difference if you need, say, 8-10 hours of battery life instead of 6-8. Otherwise, it's not that big of a deal. I rarely go unplugged for more than a few hours, so I can easily live with the lower battery life of IVB. Reply
sheh - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkHD 4600 is no 5xxx, but still a noticeable update from 4000. And battery time does matter to me. I suppose it'll also go easier on the battery recharge cycles. Reply
JarredWalton - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkMy testing suggests otherwise. Despite having 20 EUs vs. 16 EUs, HD 4400 and HD 4600 are generally about the same performance as HD 4000. I've even got a quad-core standard voltage i7-4700MQ system (MSI GE40), and surprisingly there are several games where the HD 4600 iGPU fails to be a significant upgrade to an ULV HD 4000 in and i5-3317U. I'm not sure if Intel somehow changed each EU so that the Haswell EUs are less powerful relative to IVB, but outside of driver optimizations (it's still early in the game for Haswell) I have no good reason for the lack of performance I'm getting from HD 4600. Reply
sheh - Monday, July 01, 2013 - linkThe i7-4500U review showed not much of a difference at times, and even slightly lower performance, but +20% in other cases. i7-4770 vs i7-3770 shows more improvement. I'm guessing the improvement in a 37W CPU would be more like the desktop parts rather than the 15W CPU. But, well, all theoretical anyway. Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkits a little problematic, i think. they are ultrabook cpus, and bga to boot. it's cheaper to make laptops with rpga connectors than soldering the cpu to the motherboard. until rpga models appear (not likely) we might not see that many. they are also $100 more expensive than ultrabook models from last year, so a lot of maufacturers are still using ivy. toshiba just brought out 3 new laptops, two are ultrabooks, all which use ivy instead of haswell. Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linknever mind, just found list that included socketed models. guess the oems are just slow Reply
IntelUser2000 - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkThe SV dual cores are actually Q4, so its quite a few bit left. They are planning on phasing it out in favor of U chips, where it Broadwell it disappears entirely. Reply
sheh - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkOn the forum you said Q4 is rumors, any more concrete info since then? Reply
arthur449 - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkI wouldn't sell or buy a laptop if it didn't have all its available memory channels populated. This entire review is pointless to me. Reply
JarredWalton - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkBecause buying an extra 8GB DIMM for $75 or whatever is too hard? And it will only help with iGPU performance? Reply
arthur449 - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkMainstream CPUs have used a dual channel memory controllers for so long that simply disabling access to one channel can have (as we've seen in this case) a not insignificant effect on benchmarks that do not directly stress the GPU portion of the chip. CPUs have had uses for more memory bandwidth before there were on-chip GPUs, afterall.
Furthermore, in scientific terms, due to the author changing two variables in this experiment (var1a: iGPU. var 1b: dual channel. var2a: dGPU. var2b: single channel.) to compare the iGPU to the dGPU, we cannot be certain that the subtraction of the second channel of memory has a non-zero effect on dGPU performance.
If the author's intention was merely reviewing the out-of-the-box performance of this hardware configuration of the MSI GX60 Gaming Notebook, this would be fine. Instead, the article is titled: "AMD's A10-5750M Review: ..."
I'm not trying to be unnecessarily harsh. And the subject of this review could very easily apply to my interest. (I *just* purchased a laptop for a family member with an AMD A8-5550M.) But if the author is going to test the processor's gaming performance: don't change more than one variable. Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkthe single channel ram should be fine in this case, since its not used for video at all. at least its 1600mhz Reply
Sabresiberian - Saturday, June 29, 2013 - linkPeople can talk about how games don't need powerful CPUs all they want, but the fact is, there IS a minimum requirement, and some games DO make use of the top end CPUs available. The more powerful your GPU, the more powerful the CPU needs to be to allow it room to work.
This MSI notebook is built using one of the reasons I don't buy pre-built desktops, cutting corners on one part to spend money on another. It's bad design, it doesn't work (at least when the corners are cut to this degree), it makes for a system that is built cheap and shows it in its performance. Shame on MSI, they know better (or at least some of them do - maybe those people aren't in the notebook division).
"Balance" is the key to computer design, just as it is with many things in life. Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkFor a while it was true, games by and large didn't really need powerful CPUs. Over about the past year or two that changed and changed *dramatically.* You're getting games that have a tremendous amount of complexity to them; graphics are practically the least of Skyrim's engine's worries, Crysis 3 has an incredibly rich and vibrant environment (despite being kind of crappy), and Tomb Raider is no different. It looks like TressFX takes its pound of flesh out of the CPU *and* the GPU. Reply
j_kut - Saturday, July 06, 2013 - linkSkyrim, Crysis3 and Tomb Raider run all maxed out on the GX60 except for 4*MSAA.
Only Games not running smooth on this system are MMOs where the CPU is needed for all characters on-screen.
Being a GX60 owner myself I can totally recommend it, except you wanna play GW2 or similar stuff. Reply
YukaKun - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkWhere's the battery test with just the iGPU like you guys did with the i7?
We need those numbers for bragging rights :P
Cheers! Reply
JarredWalton - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkBattery testing is done with the dGPU inactive via Enduro, so these are the "best-case" battery life results for this particular notebook. Reply
Khenglish - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkI know that on optimus systems that the dGPU will still draw a little bit of power even when off. The motherboard still keeps the Vin line active, although the GPU core and memory VR's shut down. I tested this with a multimeter. The fact that the card is still visible to on the pci bus means it's still drawing a little power.
It's probably only like half a watt, but it's something. Reply
JarredWalton - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkLast I heard from AMD and NVIDIA, it's not even half a watt -- more like 100mW or something in that range. But until we get a system that only has a Richland APU with no dGPU, we can't really test what battery life is like. The GX60 is also a large system relatively speaking, so I'd expect a less performance oriented laptop to get much better battery life with Richland -- same goes for Haswell and IVB laptops. Reply
silverblue - Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - linkThere's something else that needs to be addressed, if at all possible...
The first GX60 had exceptionally poor CPU performance as evidenced by your article eleven days back. From your conclusions, you didn't think that it could have all been down to the CPU (perhaps Enduro was to blame?). So, have MSI fixed that with the second gen GX60, or are we just seeing a (pardon me) turd with go-faster stripes? One or two of the part 1 tests actually underperformed the Trinity prototype which was interesting.
A comparison between both GX60s would be an eye opener. Reply
kwrzesien - Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - linkI'm ready for another page: GAMING PERFORMANCE PART 2
Add (or replace) the HDD with an SSD and replace the memory with 2x4GB 1866MHz RAM. Rerun all tests and compare the incremental cost to the more expensive Alienware models. I would argue that the best memory and a good SSD with greatly improve the lags in CPU performance and free the dGPU to perform closer to an i7. Definitely not going to catch it, but closer... Reply
Wolfpup - Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - linkThis continues to be an intersting system. I wish AMD would put out a higher end mobile CPU. Since their A series is roughly 50/50 CPU/GPU, there's no reason they couldn't dump the GPU portion and replace it with another 4(ish) cores, and/or clock things higher with a 45 watt TDP. Reply
Death666Angel - Tuesday, July 02, 2013 - linkGreat APU if you want to do 768p gaming on a budget. Great GPU if you want to get a cheap gaming laptop. Horrible combination. :D I wonder how a beefy i3 with a 7970 would stack up to this notebook. On the desktop side, I can get an A10-6800K for 125€ and I can get an i3-3250 for 125€. Should be similar on the laptop side, no? Wonder how much of this is the single threaded and how much is the multi threaded performance. Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, July 09, 2013 - linkmultithreaded, the a10 is near identical to mobile i3 chips. any i5 or i7 would handily outperform it though. Reply
chadwickhhs - Tuesday, July 09, 2013 - linkHow does this stack up against the PS4? I have a chance to get one this month for about $800. It has 1 upgrade which is that the memory was boosted to 16gb.
I don't want to get it if it ends up lacking the CPU power to play next gen games on at least medium. Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Tuesday, July 09, 2013 - linkyou cant upgrade the ps4 to 16gb of memory. what you are looking at is a scam, especially since the ps4 is going for $399, not $800 Reply
Rontalk - Sunday, September 08, 2013 - linkThis computer all what it need is an 3.6GHz Richland A8-5550M 2185_A1 ES processor. How about re-done the tests with a processor like that? That would have been awesome to see the improvements and stupidity of AMD, lacking out the unlocked CPU multipliers from retail APU. Reply
hellermercer - Friday, November 22, 2013 - linkthe apu still lacks dedicated memory and is not a good choice and it should have been an ssd for gaming with no L3 cache launching games may be slower. Reply
htwingnut - Saturday, January 04, 2014 - linkDDR RAM won't make a lick of difference when it comes to dedicated GPU performance. Just try it yourself. Run a few benchmarks, remove a stick of RAM, and try again. Same result within a few % at least. I did this a while back with the AMD Llano APU's and it made zero difference when it came to the dedicated GPU. Reply
htwingnut - Saturday, January 04, 2014 - linkI meant Dual Channel not DDR.... d'oh! Reply
Drittz121 - Friday, February 28, 2014 - linkJust do yourself a favor. STAY AWAY from this company. Yes they look good. But when it breaks and it WILL. All they do is give you the run around. They have had my system for over 2 months trying to fix the garbage they sell. Worse company out there for support. DONT BUY Reply


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Jenson Button heads to China this weekend believing McLaren have a point to prove after their recent failure in Bahrain.
From the high of scoring a double-podium finish in the opening race of the year in Australia, with Kevin Magnussen second and Button third following Daniel Ricciardo's disqualification, it has not taken long for McLaren to quickly be brought back down to earth.
In a highly competitive and entertaining race in Bahrain, both Button and Magnussen retired due to clutch issues with their cars.
From leading the constructors' standings after the Australian Grand Prix, McLaren have quickly slipped to third, 68 points behind early pacesetters Mercedes following the team's trio of successive wins.
Button said: "After a disappointing race in Bahrain, I think we head to China with a bit of a point to prove.
"We need to get some points on the board and get another race under our belts that demonstrates the pace we feel this year's car has, which won't necessarily be straightforward.
"Bahrain showed - the top two cars aside - the racing this year is fast, fraught and very evenly matched.
"The margins are so slim it'll require us to get everything right: a focused practice, problem-free qualifying sessions and a clean race to try and establish ourselves at the forefront of the chasing pack."
Despite a strong record at the Shanghai International Circuit, which includes a win for McLaren in his debut season in 2010, Button knows the current car may struggle this weekend.
Despite that the 34-year-old remains upbeat as he said: "Although it is not necessarily a track that perfectly suits our package, I think we can pull everything together and have a stronger weekend."
Racing director Eric Boullier is of the same mind as Button, feeling initially what happened in Bahrain was not indicative of McLaren's credentials, but knowing the situation has to improve in China.
"It's never easy to come away from a grand prix with two retirements, so it'll be important to get further points on the board in China this weekend," said Boullier.
"There are reasons to be encouraged by our general performance: the chasing pack in Bahrain was extremely closely matched, but we were in the thick of it, with the potential to hopefully edge clear."
Boullier has again made clear in order to fulfil Ron Dennis' prophecy the team will win a race this year they are "aggressively developing the car".
The Frenchman added: "We know we have a good baseline, but it's a concept that requires development, and we have some useful steps in the pipeline.
"The key to success this year will be the quick translation of those concepts into useful components, then getting them to work successfully at the track."


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WAKE UP, BROTHER BEAR! Returns to Imagination Stage, Jan 3-Feb 3
Starting January 3, Imagination Stage brings back its popular show for the very young: Wake Up, Brother Bear! Called "very entertaining for both kids and adults" by Our Kids, this 45-minute show invites children to enter the world of a young brother bear and his sister as they venture through the seasons of the year.
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Sitting on the floor around a circular playing area, children interact with Brother and Sister Bear while seeing a waterfall melt, meeting a butterfly, chasing an elusive fish, and skating on an icy pond. In this home grown piece devised by Imagination Stage, children are invited to join in the action with a small bag of props that helps to create magical moments. Actors Tyler Herman, Megan Dominy, and cellist Katie Chambers will bring this story to life.
Tyler Herman made his Imagination Stage debut with Perseus Bayou in 2011 and has played the role of Brother Bear once before. This will also be Megan Dominy's second stint in the role of Sister Bear, having played in the show's summer run. She is an Artistic Associate with Constellation Theatre and has previously performed at the Shakespeare Theatre Company and Folger Theatre.
Wake Up, Brother Bear! is Imagination Stage's first original Theatre for the Very Young creation and was the beginning of the My First Imagination Stage series. Since its debut in 2010, it has returned to the theatre for several short runs and is always a crowd pleaser. As a result, Imagination Stage launched a companion storybook, available in the gift shop of the theatre, and is currently developing a corresponding App.
The 2012-2013 My First Imagination Stage season includes Mouse on the Move (playing through November 11), The Amazing Night-Time Adventure of Little Häwelmann (November 13-21), Wake Up, Brother Bear! (January 3-February 3), From Here to There (March 6-April 14), and a summer reprise of Mouse on the Move (July 6-28).
In addition to performances, the My First Imagination Stage Early Childhood programming at Imagination Stage includes the very popular Sunday Fun-Days and the new Saturday Song Circles. These single session workshops engage children and parents in multi-sensory play. Sessions start at 10:00 am. Tickets and more information are available online.
My First Imagination Stage focuses on ages 1- 5, recognizing "play" is the "work" of this early childhood. Through live performances, workshops, and classes, My First Imagination Stage creates fun and developmentally exciting experiences for the very young and their caregivers. A national leader in Theatre for the Very Young, Imagination Stage began focusing on the youngest of theatergoers in 2010 with the world-premiere of Wake Up, Brother Bear! To date, My First Imagination Stage has produced one North American premiere; welcomed guest artists from Italy, Great Britain, and Germany; and developed two acclaimed world premiere productions (Wake Up, Brother Bear! and Mouse on the Move). Like its audiences, this program plans to keep growing!
My First Imagination Stage shows run about 45 minutes. Performance times are Tuesday-Sunday at 10:30 a.m. and 11:45 a.m. in the Christopher and Dana Reeve Studio Theatre.
The theatre is located at 4908 Auburn Avenue, Bethesda, MD. Parking: Metered parking in the adjacent public parking garage; parking is FREE on weekends. Metro: Red Line / Bethesda Station. For Information: 301-280-1660 or www.imaginationstage.org.
Pictured: Megan Dominy as Sister Bear, Jacob Yeh as Brother Bear, and Katie Chambers (cello) from the 2012 production of Wake Up, Brother Bear! at Imagination Stage. Photo credit: Blake Echols / Imagination Stage.


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EXTENDED weekend treatment has been announced in Blackburn and Darwen over the winter period.
Blackburn with Darwen Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) has worked with Lancashire Care NHS Foundation Trust and other partners to provide additional services.
Until March and by appointment only, Darwen Health Centre and Barbara Castle Way Health Centre are offering treatment room services for wound assessment, wound care and leg ulcer management on Saturdays and Sundays from 10am until 2pm.
These services are normally only available during the week.
Barbara Castle Way Health Centre will also be open during the same hours for minor injuries such as bites, injuries to hands, burns and scalds, and minor wounds.
Dr Chris Clayton, clinical chief officer at Blackburn with Darwen CCG, said: "The cold weather puts increased pressure on our healthcare system but by extending the opening hours of the treatment room[s] and the minor injuries unit at Barbara Castle Way Health Centre I hope this will help people avoid having to make unnecessary visits to the emergency department or urgent care centre, especially during the busy winter months."
If you need to attend the treatment rooms, an appointment can be made on 01254 617400. The MIU at Barbara Castle Way operates as a walk-in service.


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WORCESTER City's lack of strength in depth was exposed as North Ferriby United burst their Barrow bubble.
Just seven days after recording one of the best results of their season, the Aggborough outfit lost against the 10-man Villagers at Grange Lane.
Facing the league leaders on their own patch was a challenge in itself but to do it with a raft of personnel missing was virtually mission impossible.
Keeper Ryan Boot (knee) and Aaron Farrell and Aaron Brown were all out, the latter two due to a family bereavement, while Steven Leslie and Kristian Ramsey-Dickson have left the club.
It left the visitors woefully short on options and forced manager Carl Heeley to sign himself on as a substitute.
While Ferriby aren't short of a few quid, highlighted by having two of the league's leading scorers in their ranks, City are having to make do and mend.
They may have added Wayne Thomas and Martin Devaney in recent weeks but they don't have much money to play with in the grand scheme of things.
In addition, Heeley doesn't have the luxury of running with a large squad to cover for emergencies, such as losing Farrell and Brown at the 11th hour.
That they had to draft in academy midfielder Max Crisp alongside team-mate James Lemon further underlined the point.
With all that in mind, Worcester performed admirably and were well in the game until Birmingham City teenager Callum Preston, in for Boot, made a mess of rolling the ball out his area and hauled down Danny Clarke for a penalty eight minutes before the break.
Even though Nathan Jarman despatched the spot-kick for his 18th goal of the season, City weren't discouraged and fought back.
That Preston hadn't even been booked for his foul, when he must have feared red, was perhaps a change in luck and it got better for the visitors five minutes later.
With Daniel Nti scampering towards the box, the striker was tripped from behind by Clarke for a free-kick. Clarke was sent off for denying a goal-scoring opportunity and Nti curled a delightful set-piece over the wall and past the helpless Antoni Pecora.
Suddenly, the pendulum looked to be swinging the way of City, who had also been playing against a strong wind blowing in off the Humber estuary in the first period.
But, despite the man advantage, the second-half pressure didn't materialise and, instead, it was the hosts who grew stronger.
City began to run out of ideas and, apart from on-loan Kidderminster Harriers winger Santiago Aloi, had nothing on the bench to turn the tide.
Lemon replaced left-back Tyler Weir late on but the teenager is not used to such situations and to ask anything more of him would have been unrealistic.
Coming on as a late sub in an FA Cup match with the tie won is one thing, against the title-chasers in pursuit of a point quite another.
Worcester did threaten in the closing stages through Nti and Ethan Moore, who also had a first-half header superbly saved by Pecora. But they couldn't find a way back.
A commendable revival they may be having, City are still nine points above the Skrill North drop-zone, but this was a game too far.


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Crystal Palace boss Tony Pulis wanted to have signed new players by now, and has admitted that getting them in will have to be done "by hook or by crook".
At the mid-way stage of the January transfer window, the Eagles are yet to sign anyone while Kevin Phillips, Florian Marange and Jason Banton have left, and Jimmy Kebe has gone out on loan.
Pulis, who recruited his ally of almost 15 years David Kemp as technical coach last week, admitted he was frustrated with the lack of incoming action.
"There's been stuff in the pipeline for three to four weeks, the problem is we're not able to do any business," he said.
"It is very important and we've not managed to do it, so by hook or by crook, we have to try and get players in.
"I thought we would have had some players in by now, so it's frustrating.
"We have our targets but it is tough in football, you have three sides to it. We, the player and their club have to agree."
He added: "It is feeding season for the media, we've been linked with about 15 names coming and going – I understand that, I have to deal with that.
"The best thing for me is to sign the players first, and try and keep it as secret as I can."
The media are not entirely to blame for the circulating of rumours, because social media over-heats during the transfer window – something which passes Pulis by due to his inability to understand the medium, especially Twitter.
He said: "Don't ever ask me about Twitter – I have never understood it, I don't know how to do it, I don't know how it works.
"People tell me it is about someone waking up in the morning and telling their mates what he's having for breakfast.
"I just find it amazing. Years ago we used to talk to people."
Pulis is likely to be without KG and Jerome Thomas this weekend with injuries, while Cameron Jerome is suspended.


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Anyone ever heard of a spoon roast? I have been seeing all these rave posts about tri tips and figured I would give one a try. Went to the grocery store today and the butcher said the closest thing they have is this spoon roast. He says its part of the tri tip.
I plan on smoking this Sunday so I'll post back with the results. Most folk around these parts just put it in the crock pot low and slow so I bet it should translate out well to the smoker.


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Safety Aaron Williams and the Buffalo Bills' high-priced defense — which features two $100 million defensive linemen — prepares to open the season with one objective.
"Number 1 or it's a bust," Williams said this week. "Number 2 is not acceptable."
If that's the case, no better time than to start proving it Sunday, when Buffalo opens against Andrew Luck and his veteran-retooled Indianapolis Colts offense.
Tom Brady and Co. can wait until Week 2, when the Patriots travel to Orchard Park.
The focus is on an intriguing matchup between two former AFC East rivals, each with something to prove.
The Bills have adopted some of new coach Rex Ryan's bravado in making a case they're finally in a position to end a 15-season playoff drought — the NFL's longest active streak.
As for the Colts, they've made steady progress in each of the past three seasons since Luck's arrival. After losing the AFC championship game to New England in January, the next logical step would be a Super Bowl appearance, of course.
The Colts spent the offseason restocking both sides of the ball with a mix of proven veterans, beginning with running back Frank Gore and receiver Andre Johnson. The two join an offense that finished third in the NFL last season.
Indianapolis' defense remains a question mark, and will go up against a new-look Bills offense that has newly acquired LeSean McCoy at running back and a dual-threat quarterback in Tyrod Taylor making his first career start.


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Jefferson Pedersen has taken a concept originally tested by NASA—color-changing technology—and helped develop it into a $42 million retail business. But the 31-year-old CEO gets his biggest reward in the delight that his merchandise—which changes color in the sunlight—brings to people of all ages.
"One of my favorite parts of this business is the smile that comes over a person's face as they watch one of our products change color," said Pedersen, president and CEO, Del Sol, Sandy, Utah. "I call it our 'wow guarantee.'"
Del Sol was founded in 1994 (Pedersen's brother-in-law was one of the co-founders) as a push-cart mall operation. When Pedersen joined, in 2000, it had five free-standing stores.
"I learned the retail side of things in St. Martin, running the Del Sol store there with my wife," he said. "Later on, I came back to the States and was put over sales and marketing."
Young, enthusiastic and highly energetic, Pedersen sensed the company's potential and set about expanding its product line and retail portfolio. In 2003, he bought 25% of the business and took over as president (in 2006, he bought out the majority share).
Today, Del Sol operates 100 stores, half of which are located outside the United States, primarily in cruise-ship ports in the Caribbean and Mexico. Customers can also buy goods on its Web site.
President and CEO Del Sol Sandy, UtahAnnual sales: $42 million (est., 2007)Type of business: Manufacturer and marketer of color-changing productsNumber of stores: 100Areas of operation: United States, Mexico and the Caribbean
"Sunny tourist destinations are our main target," Pederson said. "We are heavily promoted on cruise ships."
Stores average 1,000 sq. ft. and sell privately branded apparel and accessories, from nail polish to board shorts and sweatshirts to sunglasses. The products change colors when exposed to sunlight (the colors change back once indoors). The average store transaction is around $40.
"About 50% of our sales are in apparel," Pedersen said. "We print about 1.5 million shirts annually."
Apart from 10 corporate-owned locations, Del Sol stores are independently owned. The company has exclusive arrangements with storeowners whereby they can sell only its products and the company, in turn, doesn't sell to anyone else in the market.
Del Sol expects to open 20 to 25 stores in 2008 (airport locations are new to its real estate strategy). Plus, the company will unveil an interactive concept, Sol Kids, in three locations.
"We think the market can support 300-plus Sol Kids," Pedersen added.
To date, all of Del Sol's growth has been funded organically.
"We could grow a lot faster—I get about three to five calls a week from private-equity companies and venture capitalists wanting to invest," Pedersen said. "But I think we've done things the smart way in not giving up any control. We may change that strategy, however, to grow Sol Kids."
Pedersen credits the people in his organization to his success.
"People make your business," he said. "Whenever I hire someone, I make sure of three things: first, that I can trust them; second, that they have a burning desire to succeed; and third, that I enjoy working with them."


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Google doesn't think Apple will approve iOS Google Maps, we're not so worried
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1. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Apple is now behaving like a sissy. Good their market share is shrinking. It should shrink further.
15. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)
Their market share isn't shrinking. Google's just coming up with excuses to not release a maps app on iOS. Apple didn't reject their other products so I don't see the problem.
19. Ravail (Posts: 182; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)
You are aware it was APPLE that decided to remove the built-in Google maps in iOS 6 right?
23. quakan (Posts: 1398; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
You are aware Apple didn't remove it, they just let their contract/agreement expire. The YouTube app was available before the launch of the iPhone 5 if you remember. The only reason there is no maps app is because of Google.
26. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
uumm, didn't apple let it expire and then decided not to include GMap just to have apple maps inside? there's an article about that in PA..
So, no, apple didn't remove, they just let the contract expire and then decided not to include it anymore..
and apple didn't reject Google's other products, but in the case of Maps, it is because apple sooooo wanted to use its own map that it decided to shoot itself in the head..
29. quakan (Posts: 1398; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
Yes, Apple let it expire so that meant legally they couldn't use a Google application as a stock application without getting Google's permission (*cough contract/agreement cough*). Apple wanted to go it's own route so they didn't mind and if it wasn't for the maps fiasco they would be smooth sailing. There is a full suite of Google applications in the app store (all approved by Apple) so they would more than likely accept a new Google maps, it just wouldn't be the default maps (as in no clicking a link in Safari and getting it to open in Google maps and there most likely won't be support for Siri or other stock features). I for one hated losing the stock YouTube app mainly because I can no longer lock my iPhone and listen to music on the run like I used to (not sure if it works through Safari though).
28. firelightx (Posts: 71; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
So many things wrong with this.
First of all: there was a year left on the contract. Apple took google maps out early. This is a fact.
Second of all: it is much, much more difficult to make a working maps application, complete with all the features google offers (traffic, satellite, latitude, local, 3d mapping, indoor mapping, etc...) than it is to create an app that plays videos from the internet. This is also a fact.
That said, I think the OP is wrong, and this article as the right of it. Google is taking the steps they think are necessary to see their app properly approved. whether these steps are ACTUALLY needed or not remains to be seen.
While I'm nooooo fan of apple, I don't think it's fair to call them a sissy when in this particular case, they haven't done anything.
30. quakan (Posts: 1398; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
First: I read an article at the time saying that Apple let the contract expire. So if I'm wrong, I'm fine with that. Just reply with a link.
Second: While that is true, Apple didn't create their own data for the maps. Instead they used data from TomTom and others and then "Carmel Apple-ized" it (just a term I made up for Apple turning something into a more Apple look and feel) and presented it to the public.
I think we'll see Google maps in App Store eventually. It just all depends on when Google has it complete and whenever Apple gives it the green light.
Also, rusticguy made the sissy remark ;-)
31. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)
The contract didn't expire. Apple removed Google Maps even though there was still a year left on the deal, and Apple could have kept Google Maps.
That said, it has been rumored that Google wasn't going to allow Apple to use turn-by-turn or vector graphics, which prompted the switch now.
33. quakan (Posts: 1398; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
Thanks for the link, Michael. :-p
Also, in your future articles, I give you my express written consent to use "Carmel Apple-ized". All I require is credit.
34. cybervlad81 (Posts: 89; Member since: 04 Apr 2011)
Well, we don't know what the contract said exactly, and being that the contract has still not expired it is possible that the contract had a clause in it preventing Google from releasing their own maps app. I know that at one point(a few years ago?) I saw Google had listed on their site how to add a shortcut to the web maps on your iDevice because they could not release their own app for iOS. At that time iOS's maps were pulled from Google. Just a guess at why Google may doubt the acceptance of a Gmaps app.
35. jackhuny (Posts: 10; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
If apple can build a youtube app don't you think they will just take over? It is just so "apple", they take a good third party app and build one of their own and build-in to the iOS force people to use it.
36. quakan (Posts: 1398; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
The same could be said about Google though. Their suite of applications aren't all original and typically don't differentiate from other competitors drastically.
38. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Apple was absolutely right in removing Google Maps and YouTube from stock iOS. Everyone may have their sides in this, but from a business point of view, Google is a competitor. Period. You shouldn't willingly put your direct competitor's products in your device unless you are legally obligated to do so.
Now, YouTube being in The App Store, that's fine. Users can choose to download it or not. Google Maps should be in the App Store and I'm sure it will get approved (Apple pretty much promoted Apple Maps alternatives after they made their apology). Google's Maps app will get approved.
But again...you should never be in bed with your competitor. Whether you like Apple or not, it isn't in the best interest of Apple to continue to have their rival's products loaded in with their stock software.
21. Izzy_V (Posts: 216; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
I'm not sure if you're that oblivious and ignorant or flat out don't pay attention to anything that goes against apple even when they (the ones going against apple) are right.
apple removed the GMaps app from the app store/ios so its apple maps app would be the first app users came across if they needed to get directions and find places. Google isn't coming up with excuses, they're trying to put it back in so the already lost ios users don't get more lost using apple maps.
43. letgomyeggroll (Posts: 138; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
Mxy why do you always comment before read and get the facts first
Now take out the rainbow out of your a@!, and be real for once!!!
49. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)
Talk first questions later.
18. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)
by next year they will be like nokia
44. Danre (Posts: 85; Member since: 02 Sep 2012)
Apple is now behaving like a sissy because they know Gmap is far better & superior than Apple map.
and if Google map comes in iOs then only a fool is going use Apple map.
2. pankajgupta (Posts: 59; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
they will stop it.. just not now..
they will do it when their own Maps are good.. may be.. 10-12 years down the line :P
and that is why people love android because of such openness and options. :)
4. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Allowing the GMaps app on the iTunes store will not only show how many people love GMaps, but also how much Apple has to work on with their own mapping system. They're doing pretty good but GMaps is the most polished mapping app out there besides Nokia Maps.
8. skymitch89 (Posts: 1363; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
I thought that Google Maps was already on iOS? I've seen it on iPhones and iPads before.
12. Izzy_V (Posts: 216; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
It used to be but when Android started to crush apple's products more and more it removed the GMaps app. At the same time apple was also about to release/it released its apple maps [cr]app.
22. lyndon420 (Posts: 5000; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
It was not included in ios6 as apple in their infinate wisdom thought it was smart to ditch Google Maps a year before their contract expired. They tried a different approach this time by giving their customers a half baked product like apple maps.
10. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
wrong spot
14. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Wow very well writen "High-End" article.
17. mydi.maus (unregistered)
euhh?? maps?!whos map?
20. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Google don't even wast youre time against the bad Fruit. Just let their crappy imaps get their consumers get lost
25. bomariam1 (Posts: 43; Member since: 08 May 2012)
I think that Apple can bo any thing, because they only sell their product to an apple lover customers. ( US ).
And they will buy it even if it dose nothing.
Who buy an product such like iPad when you can buy a tab that have multi screen, and a pen!
45. LostInTheRed (Posts: 85; Member since: 03 May 2012)
I'd also like to point out, it's also been rumored that Apple withheld the features like turn-by-turn, so that when they released Apple Maps, it would be seen as a new and much needed feature on iOS.


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Harvey Perley Hood
My uncle worked for the H. P. Hood Dairy from the 1950s until the 1990s. Uncle Bob lived in Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts. If you lived there in the 1970s until about 2004 you might remember Bob Wilkinson passing out "Hoodsie" ice creams in the Fourth of July Parade, or supplying the Hoods whipped cream for the Lions "Red, White and Blue Breakfast" on Tuck's Point. In a strange coincidence, the Hood family owned a large summer mansion in Manchester-by-the-Sea, at the far end of Singing Beach. In an even stranger coincidence, the H. P. Hood blimp crashed into the woods of Manchester-by-the-Sea in 2006, not long after Uncle Bob passed away. But the Hood family is most famous for their dairy farm in Derry, New Hampshire.
Harvey Perley Hood was born in 1823 in Chelsea, Vermont, but removed to Boston to work before starting his dairy business. According to Hood's archives, Mr. Hood started his dairy in Derry because the country air improved his health. He started the company in Charlestown, Massachusetts in 1846, and removed to Derry at the time he married, in 1850. At first he drove his milk to Charlestown by wagon, and then implemented the milk train, which carried the milk twice a day to the Charletown plant, which is still visible off Rt. 93.
The Hood home is now Chen's Chinese Restaurant, across from the Hoodkroft Golf Course, on East Broadway in Derry. This building is now on the National Registry of Historic Places. The Hood name is all over Derry; Hood Plaza being where the dairy cows once grazed, and Hood Middle School on Hood Road was named for Gilbert H. Hood, Harvey's descendant. That land was once a pasture for thousands of dairy cows. Traffic used to stop on Broadway each morning as the cows were moved from one field to another for grazing.
You can see photos of the Hood dairy farms in books such as "Derry Revisited" by Richard Holmes, the Derry town historian, published by Arcadia Published in 2005. You can see exhibits also at the Derry Museum of History http://www.derrymuseum.org/ Derry is no longer home to any dairy production, but Londonderry still reigns as the headquarters of Stonyfield Yogurt http://www.stonyfield.com/
Historic New England has the manuscript collection of the Hood Dairy's business records and other items, please see this link http://www.historicnewengland.org/collections-archives-exhibitions/collections-access/collection-object/capobject?refd=CC001
The Hood Family Tree:
Gen. 1. John Hood, b. about 1600 in England, resided in Lynn, Massachusetts, married to Ann (?)
Gen. 2. Richard Hood, b. abt 1625 at Lyme Regis, Dorsetshire, England, d. 12 Sep. 1695 in Lynn; married about 1653 to Mary Newhall, daughter of Anthony Newhall and Mary White.
Gen. 3. Nathaniel Hood, b. 9 June 1669 at Lynn, d. 30 Oct 1748 at Topsfield, Massachusetts; married on 16 Oct. 1706 at Topsfield to Joanna Dwinnell, daughter of Michael Dwinnell and Mary (?)
Gen. 4. Nathan Hood, b. about 1701 in Topsfield, d. 4 May 1792; married on 6 Mar. 1730/1 in Rowley, Massachusetts to Elizabeth Palmer
Gen. 5. Nathan Hood, b. 10 Jan. 1739/40 in Topsfield, d. 23 Mar. 1772; married on 17 Feb. 1763 to Mary Perkins
Gen. 6. Enos Hood, b. 26 May 1767 at Chelsea, Vermont, d. 23 Apr. 1845 at Salem, Massachusetts; married on 29 Sep. 1791 to Gillen Lane.
Gen. 7. Harvey Hood, b. 1 June 1798 at Chelsea, Vermont, d. 18 Sep. 1879 at Chelsea; married on 23 Sep. 1821 to Rebecca Smith.
Gen. 8. Harvey Perley Hood, b. 6 Jan 1823 at Chelsea, Vermont, d. 17 June 1900 at Derry, New Hampshire; married on 5 May 1850 to Caroline Laura Corwin, daughter of John Corwin and Clarissa Thompson.
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- 1 package (17-1/2 ounces) peanut butter cookie mix
- 1/3 cup canola oil
- 1 egg
- 60 miniature pretzels
- 60 semisweet chocolate chips
- 30 red-hot candies
- In a large bowl, beat the cookie mix, oil and egg until well combined. Shape into a 7-1/2-in. roll; wrap in plastic wrap. Refrigerate for 1 hour. Unwrap and cut into 1/4-in. slices.
- Place 2 in. apart on ungreased baking sheets. Using thumb and forefinger, make a slight indentation one-third of the way down the sides of each slice. Press in pretzels for antlers, chocolate chips for eyes and a red-hot for the nose.
- Bake at 350° for 9-11 minutes or until light brown. Remove to wire racks to cool. Yield: 2-1/2 dozen.
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Jackson's struggles continue in Cubs' loss
Right-hander remains winless after allowing eight runs
CHICAGO -- In 2007, Edwin Jackson went 0-8 in his first 13 starts, and didn't get his first win until June 24. Jackson and the Cubs can only hope the right-hander doesn't take that long this year.
Nick Hundley smacked a three-run home run, Yonder Alonso belted a two-run shot, Carlos Quentin drove in three runs and Jedd Gyorko added a two-run double to lift the Padres to a 13-7 victory Tuesday night over Jackson and the Cubs at Wrigley Field.
The crowd of 31,303 at Wrigley Field wasn't happy with Jackson's abbreviated outing and let him know.
"It's not the first time I've heard it," Jackson said. "It's the same crowd that if you go out and start pitching better, they're cheering. The boos -- I'd probably boo myself as well. I don't blame them."
Starting pitching has been the constant in the first month for the Cubs. They entered Tuesday's game with a 3.21 ERA and 15 quality starts, fifth most in the National League. However, Jackson has struggled with one bad inning in each of his starts. This time, he couldn't locate his fastball.
"Edwin had a tough day," Cubs manager Dale Sveum said. "He didn't make a lot of quality pitches when he had to. We have to keep plugging away with him and get this straightened out.
"It's just a month into the season," Sveum said. "Mechanical or whatever it is, we're letting games slide by with one inning or one pitch here or there. He's got it in him -- the stuff and everything is there. We just have to get it out of him."
Jackson can't wait to turn the calendar.
"Overall, it's been a pretty disappointing month from my standpoint for myself, for the team, for the organization and for the fans," Jackson said. "It's a test of character. It's one of those times when you can either crumble and fold or fight and bounce back. I definitely haven't been one to be known to fold. It's just a matter of getting back on track and throwing the ball like I know how to throw the ball."
The 2007 season was a different time in his career, Jackson said.
"This may be one of the worst starts I've had in my career," Jackson said of his first season with the Cubs. "It's a test of character. Clearly, it hasn't been what I wanted to do. It's a long season. I'll definitely continue to work and get back to where I need to be to finish the season strong."
Luis Valbuena and Starlin Castro each hit two-run home runs, David DeJesus added a solo shot -- after replay -- and Cody Ransom homered for the Cubs, who finished April with 35 home runs, the third most in the first month of the season in the history of the franchise.
"The bats are coming alive," Sveum said. "We just have to get our right-handed guys swinging a little bit better."
The loss was the largest margin for the year as well. The Cubs' previous 25 games had been decided by four runs or fewer, a franchise record. The Major League mark is 33 consecutive games decided by four runs or fewer, held by the 1914 Tigers.
Jackson lasted 4 2/3 innings, his shortest outing in six starts. He served up 11 hits, the most off him since Aug. 3, 2011, when he gave up 14 to the Brewers over seven innings. The right-hander, who signed a four-year, $52 million contract with the Cubs this offseason, now has a 6.27 ERA.
"It's just a matter of getting back to me," Jackson said. "I have to get back to throwing the ball like I throw the ball and let everything else go out the window, whether it's one thing or another. It's just one of those things you have to get out there and do it. I haven't lost any confidence, I don't doubt myself. I'm just not getting it done. I just have to go out and get it done."
He said the contract, his first long-term deal, isn't the problem.
"I don't feel like it's pressure," Jackson said. "I feel like I'm just not pitching like I know I can pitch, whether it's execution of pitches, or making people hit the ball where there are fielders. It's been one thing or another. It hasn't been one particular thing."
Padres starter Edinson Volquez helped himself with an RBI single in the five-run fifth and improved to 5-0 in seven career starts against the Cubs.
Jackson retired the first four batters he faced. But with one out in the Padres' second, Alonso and Mark Kotsay both singled, and both scored on Gyorko's double into the gap in right-center. Quentin added a sacrifice fly in the third.
The Padres sent 10 batters to the plate in the fifth and hit for the team cycle. Cabrera led off with a triple and scored one out later on Chase Headley's double. Quentin hit a RBI double to make it 5-0. Alonso followed with his third home run, which landed in the basket rimming the left-field bleachers. Jackson walked Kotsay, and he scored three batters later on Volquez's single.
"I think we were aggressive early," Padres manager Bud Black said. "Jackson's got good stuff and I think our guys were ready to hit right from pitch one. You get behind a guy like that and he can start using his weapons."
The Chicago offense got going with two homers in the fifth. Valbuena launched his into the right-field bleachers to drive in Welington Castillo, who had doubled. Darwin Barney then doubled, and two outs later, Castro connected for his third home run to close to 8-4.
Anthony Rizzo added a run on his third double of the night in the ninth. Rizzo finished April with 20 RBIs, second most by a Cubs left-handed hitter behind Hall of Famer Billy Williams, who drove in 25 in April 1970.
Carrie Muskat is a reporter for MLB.com. She writes a blog, Muskat Ramblings, and you can follow her on Twitter @CarrieMuskat. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Obama visits K'NEX factory in Hatfield
President Barack Obama arrived in Montgomery County Friday to talk about the fiscal cliff and holiday shopping.
At his first public event outside Washington, D.C., since his re-election, Obama was at the Rodon Group manufacturing facility in Hatfield, where K'NEX, Tinkertoys and other toys are made.
The president's primary mission was to discuss the economy and how the fiscal cliff and rising taxes could affect businesses like Rodon.
See coverage and reactions from social media below.
With the so-called "Fiscal Cliff" looming, President Barack Obama toured a toy manufacturer in Montgomery County today. On a visit to the K'NEX workshop in Hatfield, Obama applauded the company for keeping jobs in the US. "They manufacture almost 3,000 K'NEX pieces every minute and every box that ends up on store shelves in 30 countries is stamped 'Made In America' and that's something to be proud of."
The supportive crowd applauded and the president went on to say that the country thrives when the middle class is strong.
"I want to reward manufacturers like this one and small businesses that create jobs here — not overseas. And by the way this is a company — one of the few companies in the toy industry that have aggressively moved jobs back here."
Obama also talked about the larger challenges facing the country, including the tax cuts set to expire. He's pushing to renew them for most, but not all. "Right now Congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. Everybody. So that means 98 percent of Americans, 97 percent of small businesses wouldn't see their income taxes go up by a single dime."
Obama said that would help families and companies plan for the future.
Noah Williams-Morrill, a local sixth grade student, got to attend the closed event because he posted online a one-minute video explaining the fiscal cliff.
"I made a video about the fiscal cliff," said Williams-Morrill. "It means that when the Bush tax cuts expire, families like mine will have to pay over like $2,000 in taxes and then because of other things, spending is getting cut for other things. So we're paying more and getting less."
Patricia Moyer, got invited by Secret Service personnel staying in the hotel where she's a housekeeping supervisor.
"It was awesome. I really enjoyed it," she said. But while Moyer enjoyed the event, she declined to share her thoughts on the president. "I agree with some of the things he says, and I disagree. Just like everybody else." Moyer didn't want to say which of the president's stances she disagrees with, adding, "I keep my political views to myself and I don't really like to discuss politics."
Outside the event a small group of protesters waved signs including one stating that taxing the rich, hurts everyone.
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How one company is changing the world one Fair Trade Certified sports ball at a time
One of the powerful things about the Fair Trade model is its ability to impact both workers on the ground as well as mission-driven companies here in the U.S. looking to make a difference. RESPECT™, the first and only Fair Trade, Eco-Certified brand of sports balls by Fair Trade Sports, has found a way to do just that.
"There is tremendous opportunity as we continue to create an entirely new category of Fair Trade, sustainable sporting goods and we're very excited about the industry's future" said Jim Bolt, Vice President of Marketing and Sales.
In partnering with Fair Trade, the company has been able to offer customers high-quality, performance sports balls that truly give factory workers and stitchers a better deal for all of their hard work. Each RESPECT™ ball is produced in Pakistan by adult workers who earn a fair wage. This premium allows for reinvestment in local communities for much needed resources like fresh water wells, childhood education, and health care.
To test the quality and performance of the balls, Fair Trade Sports asked Justin Morrow, of the San Jose Earthquakes, what he and his teammates thought after practicing with some RESPECT™, premium match balls. The defender stated, "we thought the ball was just as strong and well put together as any ball we've used. I like to say that the ball was very "true" which means it comes off your foot they way you expect it to, and its movement in the air is predictable."
Aside from reaching out to professional teams and athletes, Fair Trade Sports uses another important outlet to help spread enthusiasm for, and awareness of, the Fair Trade mission: the classroom. A group from the company recently paid a visit to a kindergarten class to share their message by talking about how their sports balls are made, where they're made, and how they get from Pakistan to the United States.
Through donating to schools and after school programs, Fair Trade Sports has been working to promote good sportsmanship, positive attitudes, and good health. This serves to not only provide school-age children with sports balls and healthy outdoor opportunities, but most importantly, it also helps to instill awareness of what it means to play "fair" both on and off the field.
"Our mission is to make the world a better place, one ball at a time," states Bolt, "to do this we will continue to make an effort to partner with other like minded companies, get involved with local communities and schools, remain mindful of our global environment, and pay respect to all those involved."
To learn more about Fair Trade Sports and about the importance and impact of using Fair Trade Certified sports balls, visit them online at www.fairtradesports.com and watch their introduction video (below). Whenever possible, Fair Trade Sports tries to showcase actual images of their suppliers, supporters, and Fair Trade Sports community. This video, entitled "Respect," uses some striking imagery from the very people who help produce the sports balls, as well as athletes and others who are committed to making the world a better place one ball at a time.


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Is it better to code like so:

...and have a class in the css file that aligns it right, and pads it, styles it etc accordingly.

They both validate, and the latter option displays better when your content is syndicated as it's likely not connected to the stylesheet in your reader (well, $100 says it's not ).
What do you reckon, oh wise and worldly SP gurus?
I go with option #1, that way the .aright (or .aleft) class can be used over and over on any element.
But then viewing that element in a feed reader for instance, the image will be inline like a character of text... looks poorly formatted.
Am I wrong in stating that this is a little presentational faux pas/oversight in the web standards move from presentational markup to standards compliant code?
Yes. Content and presentation should be kept separate.
If it's important to you that the image is floated to the right in a feed reader, you can use inline CSS (style="float:right"). It's no better than the presentational attribute, which is deprecated, from a best practice point of view, but at least it's valid. The align attribute is deprecated and won't validate with a Strict doctype, which is what you should use for all new pages.
It passes a transitional one though. But I guess that name explains it all.
You're right though, I'll use the inline CSS equivalent then.
I think in this situation it makes more sense to use inline styling than an external stylesheet since IMO, it is poorly formatted in a feed reader if the context reads "in the image on the right..." and then it's sitting above or below the text.
External CSS is also much easier to maintain than inline CSS and presentational HTML. If you need to change the presentation of all your images in the future, you can do so by editing only one line in a CSS file rather than every individual img element.
Depending on how you create your feed, you may want to use external CSS in your web page and inline CSS in your feed.
The second version will only validate with a transitional doctype since all the positional attributes are deprecated and should no longer be used.
That's why you shouldn't write things like 'the image on the right' if it's not really to the right of that text.
Regarding the original question, both are equally bad, in their own way. Using align="right" is deprecated, and therefore shouldn't be used, but using class="alignright" or style="align:right" is also a poor solution. By doing this, you are still not separating contents from layout, you're just using a different technology to do the same as you would have done in the past.
CSS classes and ids should always be named according to their use, never according to how you want it to look right now. If you at some point want to change the image to be left-aligned, you will either have to change the class in the document, or change a class called alignright to aling things left, which will only confuse upon future updates.
The solution would be to name the class e.g. articleimage, or something else which describes what the image actually is. If you need some variation, you can apply a secondary class.
Regarding references to images, making absolute references in the text to an image's location on the screen is a bad idea. There are a number of different factors which can change the appearence, including user-defined style sheets, text-based browsers and (perhaps most importantly) screen readers. If a user can't see the image, referencing a location only obvious to users who can see the image will make it a lot more difficult to get the context.
Why not use the method used in scientific articles, and reference figure numbers?
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Pretty curious is there any problems with external css in feeds that impose using inline styling ? And if feeds than make one rule for them all ? Float them all to the right.
I just can use "style" tag on HTML codes form. It doesn't make any different actually :rolleyes:
antitoxic:I dunno bout no feedz, but in general an external stylesheet is always overridden by internal ones, who are always overridden by inline ones. Inline is the safest when you have to toss your HTML into the wild blue yonder, in an email, or onto someone else's page.
Using figures to name images is nice, but usually even journalistically you can still get away with "above" (or "above referenced") and "below" since that still works linearly. It's almost become a language phrase so that, if I'm reading a two-column article and they say "the graph below" and it's really next to that text because it's in the next column is still fine, as readers have learned over the century that "below" means "later in the text" regardless of where it's phycially sitting.


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Did you know?
Feiteiras Vineyards in Bot River produce wines entirely by hand using a pole basket press. Feiteiras Vineyards released South Africa's first Verdelho wine.
The Bot River Wine Route comprises a handful of wineries that make up the Bot River Vineyard Association.
Clustered at the foot of the Houwhoek Pass, Bot River's wine farms are the gateway to the Walker Bay wine-growing district, one of the Cape's most sought-after wine growing regions because of its cool, maritime climate.
The Bot River wine ward stretches from the Bot River lagoon up into the foothills of the Groenlandberg and Babylonstoren mountain ranges, and forms part of the agricultural transition zone of the Kogelberg Biosphere Reserve, a 100 000-hectare UNESCO-registered biodiversity hotspot that is part of the Cape Floral Kingdom World Heritage Site.
Cooling breezes from the Bot River lagoon and the Atlantic Ocean offset the valley's warm summers. As well as helping to keep Bot River's vineyards disease-free, the mild conditions permit later ripening, resulting in flavour complexity and well-balanced acidity.
During Bot River's mild, frost-free winters, rainfall supplements vineyard irrigation. Bokkeveld shale and Table Mountain sandstone soils add minerality, while the region's abundant fynbos adds herbaceous notes to the wines.
Bot River's eclectic band of conservation-conscious winemakers strive to work in harmony with the landscape to produce individualistic, terroir-expressive wines from cool-climate varietals.
Chenin blanc is the star of the valley, and wines coaxed from old, characterful, low-yield vines produce internationally acclaimed, award-winning vintages.
Sauvignon blanc follows suit, with shiraz and cabernet aauvignon and small quantities of chardonnay, pinotage, mourvédre and verdelho completing the Bot River wine profile.
Wineries on the Bot River Wine Route are often small, family-run affairs. While producers here prefer small acreage, there's no stinting when it comes to hospitality, or top-quality and value-for-money wines.
Generosity of spirit is evident in the welcome visitors to this secluded valley receive. Big-hearted Bot River quickly wins over visiting wine lovers with its homely atmosphere, and commitment to the community, the environment, and quality wines.
Travel tips & Planning info
Who to contact
Bot River Vineyard Association
Tel: +27 (0)83 302 6562
Email: email@example.com
Tourism Cape Overberg
Tel: +27 (0)28 425 1157
Email: firstname.lastname@example.com
How to get here
Take the N2 from Cape Town over Sir Lowry's Pass, past Grabouw and down the Houw Hoek Pass. Pass the first turn-off to Hermanus and take the second turn left to Bot River.
Best time to visit
Spring in Bot River sees wildflowers and fynbos on the surrounding mountains, and the vineyards and orchards in bloom.
Around the area
In Bot River's surrounds go hiking, mountain biking, fishing, bird watching and horse riding. Visit Hermanus for its beaches, wine farms, restaurants, golf courses, nature reserves, and whale watching in season. Nearby, in Caledon, you'll find a casino, hot springs, a nature reserve, and a golf course.
Tours to do
Fynbos walks and eco-hikes are on offer in the Kogelberg Biosphere Reserve.
Get around
It's best to have your own car to visit the Bot River Wine Route. Occasional tourist trains arrive in the valley, and the Baz Bus, a backpackers' shuttle, stops at the Bot River Hotel.
What will it cost
Bot River wine farms typically do not charge for wine tasting.
Length of stay
The Bot River Wine Route is compact and can be explored in a weekend.
What to pack
Bot River summers can be extremely hot; make sure you protect yourself from the sun with a hat and sun cream. In winter, take a raincoat and warm, weatherproof jacket for winter. Also pack sturdy boots if you're a hiker as the Overberg has numerous hiking trails.
Where to stay
Accommodation in Bot River ranges from the village hotel and farm cottages, to self-catering mountainside luxury villas and Canadian-style log cabins. Malplaas ('mad farm') is a delightfully quirky artists' retreat. Close to the Bot River lagoon is the Arabella Western Cape Hotel & Spa, and there is plenty of four and five-star accommodation in nearby Hermanus.
What to eat
Bot River is known for its apples, pears, plums, and onions. Local eateries include the Shuntin' Shed, a relaxed pizzeria, Beaumont Wine's café serves light lunches, and the Kolkol Kitchen is open Thursday through Sunday. Hermanus, with its many restaurants, is a 20-minute drive.
What's happening
Botrivier hosts their harvest celebration, called Barrels & Beards in April. The Bot River Spring Festival, also called the Drink Yourself Pink Festival, is usually held in the first weekend in September. The Bot River Open Gardens and the Van der Stel Pass Challenge are usually held over the last weekend in October, and the Bot River Barrel Fest is also in October.
Best buys
Chenin blanc, shiraz wines, and the Cape's only single varietal, mourvédre, from Beaumont Wines. Barton Estate produces olive oil and a range of lavender products. Find fresh produce and the Overberg Wine Collection, wines from across the region at cellar-door prices, at the Houw Hoek Farmstall.


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