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The Beau Turner Youth Conservation Center encompasses 160 acres that Mr. Turner has leased to the FWC. The goal for the center is to develop a stewardship ethic among youth through programs designed to develop their outdoor skills and to instill an appreciation and knowledge of the longleaf pine ecosystem and wildlife management techniques.
The Center is solar powered, with one of the largest private solar arrays in the Panhandle. The Center offers a stocked fishing pond, sporting clays, a .22 rifle range, 3-D and Olympic-style archery ranges, butterfly gardens, and nature trails. Events held at the Center include a variety of outdoor workshops for kids, youth days and volunteer training workshops.
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Everglades Youth Conservation Camp
The Everglades Youth Conservation Camp (EYCC) programs feature conservation education with outdoor adventure activities in south Florida's unique Everglades ecosystems. The facility is 252 acres located in the 60,000 acre J.W. Corbett Wildlife Management Area in western Palm Beach County. The site features 10 air-conditioned cabins, two bath houses, an air-conditioned dining hall, an aquatic activity lake for swimming and paddle sports, a fishing pond, archery and shooting ranges, Campfire Island, a 1.3 mile boardwalk trail and other hiking trails.
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Joe Budd Youth Conservation Center
The Joe Budd Youth Conservation Center (JBYCC) is located just outside Tallahassee, in the midst of the Joe Budd Wildlife Management Area. JBYCC staff provides students the opportunity to learn about aquatic ecology in a natural, outdoors setting. Our aquatic education programs are designed to give students a chance to experience aquatic habitats first-hand, and enhance their appreciation of proper environmental management.
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Associated Agency: Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission
Ocala Conservation Center and Youth Camp
The Ocala Conservation Center is on a 57-acre peninsula, rich in history and wildlife in Marion County in north Central Florida. It is 20 miles east of Ocala, on Lake Eaton, in the heart of the Ocala National Forest. The facilities feature air-conditioned cabins and dining hall. Outdoor classrooms are fishing piers, shooting ranges, nature trails, Lake Eaton and the vast Ocala National Forest.
The Center has offered action-packed summer adventures for more than 50 years. Every year, the camp's programs provide hundreds of campers the necessary skills and knowledge to become better sportsmen and women, while instilling an awareness of firearm safety and wildlife stewardship.
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Suncoast Youth Conservation Center
The Suncoast Youth Conservation Center will be the newest and only marine-focused center.
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Tenoroc Youth Conservation Center
The Tenoroc site, located within the city limits of Lakeland, is also easily accessible from the Orlando and Tampa metropolitan areas. The Tenoroc Fish Management Area currently has nature trails and horseback riding trails, fishing ponds, archery, shotgun and rifle ranges, and a wide-array of birding and conservation habitat programming.
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Can someone explain to me - in plain terms - what "RESTful" is??
(I looked online and my eyes glazed over after the first paragraph...)
The short, short, short version would be "embracing HTTP as a messaging layer." Beyond that it means lots of different things to different people. Perhaps you've got a more pointed question here . . .
I was looking for Streaming Video Web Hosts and I saw that term a couple of times...
I've heard developers at work use it too.
Never really knew what it meant, and was hoping to get a better understanding so when it comes up again I'll know what it is.
Usually it's a type of web service or API, which you can interface with to get data from external systems into your system.
RESTful is opposed to something like SOAP. They're both usually web services, but they work differently. The big key with RESTful web services is they are "stateless", which means each transaction between it is a complete entity all on it's own. (As opposed to SOAP where you may do something like login, then have a persisting connection).
The other big thing is it usually uses the HTTP layer as it's meant to be used. A lot of APIs have you do something like get your info from a URL:
A RESTful API would have you put this as a URL usually
Which translates into a HTTP GET request:
HTTP 1.1 GET /api/books/fun/10
That's not much different. But say you want to create a new user. A non-RESTful API may have you do something like:
which translates to:
HTTP 1.1 GET /makeuser.php?name=bob&password=tooth
However, that's not using HTTP GET properly, since GET should only get info and never change it.
A proper RESTful API would likely have you use PUT instead. Something like:
HTTP 1.1 PUT /makeuser/bob/tooth
Making proper use of the HTTP protocol.
Interesting explanation!
@samanime; minor point, but IIRC POST is used to create entities whereas PUT is used for updating existing ones.
Other than that I completely agree with what you said
Completely correct, thanks for the correction. =p
I've heard of many variations. Some developers suggest that if you're querying or doing any kind of CRUD database operations that RESTful service is the way to go. If you're doing any actions through HTTP, like login/logout/search/verbs than you should use Web Service. Then to make things more confusing, they throw the term RESTful Web Service. Anyways, I look at RESTful service as a nice URL pattern service and nothing more.
Here is a great write-up of the various types of web service APIs: http://blog.steveklabnik.com/posts/2012-02-13-an-api-ontology
That is wrong when considering a true REST approach.
PUT is used both to create and replace entities.
POST is used to create records under another entity.
Example:-To create/update a user account we would use PUT.-To add another chapter to a book we would use POST (in this case book would be an entity already created by PUT).
That is a very simple example, but I hope it is sufficient to describe the difference.
Personally I don't like a pure/true REST approach to an API, as it does limit you somewhat in what the API can and cannot do.
The benefit of a pure REST approach is speed, if you can use this you will see that it is a lot faster than other options if the web server that host the API is configured properly.
With other words, don't be afraid to go for a "*******" (hybrid) API, taking the best part from the different architecture that is out there.
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The boys came out in droves for Kylie at the Verizon Theatre last night. The girls, well, they were there, too. Upon walking into the venue, the stage was magnificent with its descending stairs and digital Greek columns, not to mention a large squadron of dancers. And there she was in all her glory with her Grecian-draped costume and winged ears. Opening with "Aphrodite," she appeared to the hordes of screaming men in the audience. It was an impressive beginning. I dug the dancing gladiators.
But the visual onslaught began to be too much. And while she was clearly live on the microphone, she seemed hazy in her delivery. She screamed out to the audience several times and gave nods to Dallas, but they felt more squeezed in because the show is so tightly wound. She ascended on a golden Pegasus, which got hollers, but it didn't amount to anything and it was after the show began. A big bust (of Aphrodite? Kylie? Kylie as Aphrodite?) appeared later and just sat there. Flying birds? Cool. What should I be doing? I began to question what it meant other than to show an embarrassment of riches. None of which helped her performance.


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It is an inconvenient truth that the present economic cycle is unlikely to follow a neat and predictable pattern. What everyone hopes, of course, is to see sustainable recovery taking hold this year and a steady return to pre-crisis levels of hiring and GDP. But even the most optimistic forecasters fall back on a series of caveats and provisos, knowing there could be further surprises in store as the global economy adjusts to the shocks of the past 18 months and the resultant changes.
More definite, at least, is the fact that most Hong Kong companies believe the worst of the recession is over. Their focus is on growth rather than cost cutting and layoffs. Plans for investment and recruitment are once again back on the table, translating into a generally more positive sentiment for most sectors. The broad aim is not just to perform "better than 2009", but to set sights considerably higher in the expectation that the crisis will indeed lead to new opportunities.
That is all good news. However, it is also important to remember that a solid and sustained recovery for Hong Kong ultimately depends on two crucial factors: job creation and exports. Consistent improvement on these fronts is essential for the overall economy to turn around. Other measures, from stock market indices to consumer confidence to new initial public offerings, can be used to gauge progress, but all are secondary indicators. What really determines the health of the economy is the ability to get people into jobs, allowing them to generate income for themselves and, by extension, for the wider community.
The extent to which job creation fell away last year is evident from the SCMP/admanGo survey of positions advertised in the six leading recruitment publications in Hong Kong. It shows that total job ads dropped from 248,095 in 2008 to 103,240 last year. Not surprisingly, there was a significant decline in every major sector. In trading, the number of jobs on offer slid from 19,162 in 2008 to 6,207, while the hotel, catering and restaurant sector went from 18,570 down to 7,081 for the same comparative period.
Just as starkly, isolating the total jobs advertised in the second quarters of 2008 and last year reveals a fall from 79,152 to 24,094.
The data does contain some more hopeful trends. The figure of 27,228 for the final quarter of last year was better than the 26,899 of the same period in 2008 and the second half of last year, with a total of 55,638 jobs was 16.9 per cent up on the 47,602 of the year's first half.
Using his own research to assess the prospects for recovery and new jobs, David O'Rear, chief economist for the Hong Kong General Chamber of Commerce, feels they will pretty much depend on one area.
"Trade is the key," he says. "It still accounts for two-thirds of the Hong Kong economy, so it is overwhelmingly apparent we have to get this moving again." He cautions against reading too much into various short-term statistics, especially if comparing them against last year's figures. Some people were quick to see positives, for example, in better than expected Chinese imports for a single month or re-stocking by overseas retailers low on inventory. This was understandable but, as things stood, it needs consistently higher demand in one of more of the major developed economies for Hong Kong to turn things around.
"Everything has fallen so far, so fast, it is not difficult to generate some growth in the first quarter," O'Rear says. "But it will take any one of the United States, Europe or Japan to show some kind of sustainable recovery for China [export] manufacturing and the Hong Kong machine to start moving again."
Chamber forecasts were for local GDP to go from a contraction of 3 per cent last year to plus 3 to 4 per cent real growth with minimal inflation this year. And, while Hong Kong's unemployment rate has dropped from 5.4 per cent to 4.9 per cent over the past few months, O'Rear is cautious about predicting its future trend. He points out that demographics and migration can have a significant impact on the size of the labour force. This means percentage rates are not necessarily the best reflection of the state of the underlying job market.
The sign to look for is growth in full-time jobs for local workers. Part-time and contract positions still tend to disguise the real situation, as does roles, say in construction or banking, going mainly to people from overseas.
O'Rear also notes the government is lining up six to eight major policy initiatives for later this year. These include competition law, the minimum wage, a trustees' ordinance, and the possibility of compensation limits in the finance sector.
"All these regulations coming through have the potential for derailing the recovery," he says. "Most have been thought about for five years or more, but [it might be better] to back up and take a more sober-minded approach."
Kelvin Lau, an economist for Standard Chartered Bank, says business sentiment is strengthening, but areas of concern remain. Principal among these are how exit strategies, needed to end fiscal stimulus packages, will play out, and the still anaemic export demand. Both could lead to further volatility in financial markets with a ripple effect on employment.
"In general, economies in Asia will continue to see domestic consumption as a key driver for growth," Lau says. "This will contrast with the main overseas markets where the weak consumption story will prevail. Consumers in the West will have to scale back spending to rebuild their household balance sheets."
It is advisable, Lau says, to take numbers suggesting anything different with a pinch of salt. Short-term stock replenishment, for instance, does not mean a pick-up in end-user demand or tell much about the long-term economic cycle.
In view of this, Lau expects only gradual improvement for Hong Kong's job outlook this year. Some sectors, such as finance, retail, real estate, tourism and construction, look more encouraging. However, the speed of hiring will not accelerate significantly until firms see healthier profits or a gilt-edged chance for competitive gain.
"You need economic activity before you have jobs," says Qu Hongbin, HSBC's chief economist for China, adding that Hong Kong's hopes for recovery are largely tied to a pick-up in exports.
The mainland can expect to achieve a GDP growth rate of 9.5 per cent for the full year by taking further measures to boost domestic consumption. Indeed, this year will see a shift in central government spending from construction to consumption in a bid to reduce export dependence and create a more balanced economy. This will lead to rising private consumption, with a focus on durables, home appliances and communications, and more investment in services, education and health care.
"Domestic demand will be the key driver going forward," Qu says. "Any move up or down in exports is then the swing factor, not the fundamental factor for the economy." Overall, Hong Kong is still in a strong a position to benefit. Monetary stimulus has created plenty of liquidity for local financial markets, and initiatives based on cleaner industries, new energy, and technology are taking off on the mainland. Job creation depends on reacting to these changes, rather than assuming previous trade patterns will resume and that volumes return to previous levels.
"There are surprises ahead," Qu says. "Not all of them will be pleasant."
Better times
Analysts are wary of proclaiming a recovery despite initial signs pointing to a turnaround
The feedback from different sectors bears out the assessment that there's no room for complacency. Caution is the watchword, with industry leaders and recruitment specialists still braced for challenges
Manufacturing and logistics
The number of job advertisements placed by the manufacturing sector dropped from 17,010 in 2008 to 5,082 last year, according to the SCMP/admanGo survey. The immediate cause was the dramatic fall-off in orders from overseas, which hit in the final quarter of 2008. Fortunately, the past few months have seen initial signs of a turnaround, but no one is yet counting their chickens.
"Generally, the sentiment is still cautious," says David Wong, chairman of the Chinese Manufacturers' Association of Hong Kong, which has roughly 3,000 members across 29 industries from jewellery to toys and chemicals. "There is a lot of wait and see because [buyers] don't place their orders until the last minute and there are more fluctuations in order size." He adds that manufacturers also face an anxious wait to find out how governments around the world will unwind their financial rescue packages. At this stage, there is no way of knowing if private sector investment will take up the slack and spur further consumption.
"Basically, we are looking for a steady recovery, not strong, with single digit export growth," he says.
Comments from Peter Wong, chairman of the Hong Kong Association of Freight Forwarding and Logistics (Haffa), bear that out. He notes that freight rates for both sea and air shipments have increased. It would be unwise, though, to read too much into this. The increase is more a function of reduced capacity on major routes than of significantly higher cargo volumes.
"The majority of people think it will be quite a good year for logistics because the economy is picking up and store inventories in Europe are low," Peter Wong says. "But it is no secret; eventually the Hong Kong logistics will slow down. People may learn [the business] here and then go to work in China." In the meantime, local companies are likely be hiring customer service, operations and information technology staff, who understand the technicalities of the business.
Banking, finance and investment
After a period when survival was the priority, the mood is much more upbeat, with hiring back in fashion.
"Banks cut back quite heavily to get their cost base down, but they were pretty active for recruitment in the second half of 2009," says Guy Day, Ambition's managing director for Asia. "That activity is likely to continue for the foreseeable future."
He says that this is mostly replacement hiring to make good shortfalls in resources where cuts have been too deep. No one can yet talk of net job creation. Even so, if initial public offerings and general deal-making remain strong, there will be a flow-through effect to back-office hiring, and areas such as accounting and insurance.
"Recruitment is very much a sentiment driven thing, so when institutions see positive signs, they will hire for the longer term," Day says. "Then, we will see salary inflation, significant skill shortages and staff turnover starting to creep back in."
Anthony Thompson, managing director, Hong Kong and Southern China for Michael Page International, has also seen an encouraging jump in recruitment covering mid-tier and back-office roles. Demand is up for qualified finance professionals with at least five years' experience and for "seasoned" managers. There is also continuing interest in hiring frontline sales people capable of generating new business in any kind of market. This applies not just to the finance sector, but across the board.
"Employers always want individuals who demonstrate they can add value," Thompson says. "What continues to become more important is to have an international perspective and to [keep acquiring] new skills." One consequence of the crisis, he notes, is that new types of jobs have appeared. For example, the issue of compliance with government regulations and international standards has created a need for specialists and trainees.
"The management of risk has become a really big issue across all industries," Thompson says.
Education and training
Although the SCMP/admanGo survey shows a fall in advertised positions from 17,488 in 2008 to 9,672 last year, the expectation is for a significant number of new teaching jobs in the next couple of years. The revamped secondary school curriculum, alongside preparation for the transition to the 3-3-4 system with its four years of university education, means institutions will have to gear up for new courses and extra teaching requirements.
Victor Lau, assistant secretary general of the University Grants Committee (UGC) says the process has already started. A one-off sum of HK$550 million has been authorised for distribution among Hong Kong's eight universities. The UGC did not project or prescribe exactly what to do, but the firm assumption is that it be put towards recruiting more staff to teach the expanded curriculum.
"The overall philosophy is that we give the money and the institutions decide how it is spent," Lau says. "There is a bidding process, we look at their proposals, and there is a review annually." Regarding the employment of teachers in public-sector schools, a spokesman for the Education Bureau says there is a "healthy turnover" each academic year. An established mechanism links recruitment to class structure and student/teacher ratios, with each school then conducting their own hiring exercises.
However, the sector is regularly looking for "new blood". In particular, extra teachers might be needed as curriculum leaders in primary schools and in secondary schools with a large intake of lower-performing junior students.
Considering other areas creating jobs this year, Mike Game, Asia chief executive for Hudson, points to digital media, customer relationship management and data mining.
"Talent is in short supply, and Hong Kong is being seen as a hub to service China," he says.


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Today, Fox News contributor Sandy Rios appeared on America Live to criticize Michelle Obama for promoting breastfeeding. Rios suggested that Obama's initiative might hurt businesses. This would be run-of-the-mill Fox fare (attack the Obamas no matter what they do, however innocuous) except for one thing. Rios specifically said that her problem was that government regulations may be motivated by an interest in promoting breast feeding "in the black community" when "74 percent of American women already breastfeed. We're talking about a problem that is specifically in the black community."
RIOS: There's nothing wrong with promoting breastfeeding. I'm all in favor of that. But you have to remember that 75 percent of American women already breastfeed. We're talking about a problem that is specifically in the black community. And so for you to change federal law and IRS regulations and start forcing businesses to make accommodations for nursing women at their own expense to promote it in the black community is the problem that I have with it.
The health care reform law requires businesses to accommodate nursing mothers and the IRS recently announced that it would give tax breaks for breastfeeding supplies. Rios evidently has a problem with this.
It is true that Michelle Obama has stressed the relatively low rates of breastfeeding among black women. But would "forcing businesses to make accommodations for nursing women" be less of a problem for Rios if the breastfeeding rates were equally low among white women as black women? Her criticism is puzzling given that the new regulations make life easier for both women who start breastfeeding as a result of the regulations as well as those that already do breastfeed.
Rios later added:
RIOS: If Michelle Obama really wants to help women in the black community, I'm all in favor of that, to encourage them to nurse their babies. But to change federal law to force employers as part of this initiative to provide a place for mothers to nurse and time off to nurse or to pump is not right. Talk about fairness, are you going to make business owners accommodate nursing mothers at their expense? Say equal pay for equal work does not apply here.
RIOS: I am concerned however with her trying to dictate and impose her ideas on women of all stripes, which I believe she is doing in this case. I think breastfeeding is wonderful. And to the point of whether someone should have a room, yes I think if a boss doesn't accommodate if you want to pump, you can find a different boss. But to dictate to employers that they have to find a different space and give you the time off to do that I think is unreasonable.
KELLY: They had to do it because the bosses weren't doing it. I mean look at here at Fox News, you work in a newsroom. You know, you're sitting in a little cubby. So if you're a nursing mom, what are you going to do, whip out your breast pump at your little cubby with like dozens of people around you watching. No, believe me. They don't want to see it.
RIOS: Megyn, is Fox bad to you? We need to talk to Roger Ailes. He should provide something to you. You're a special case.
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CEO Bill Lee announced on Monday [10] that Millennium Entertainment had acquired US rights to The Necessary Death Of Charlie Countryman.
Shia LaBeouf and Evan Rachel Wood star in the thriller, which premiered at Sundance in January and also stars Mads Mikkelsen, Til Schweiger, Rupert Grint, Aubrey Plaza, James Buckley and Melissa Leo.
Fredrik Bond directed from a screenplay by Matt Drake about a young man who falls for a mobster's girlfriend in Bucharest.
Millennium plans to release The Necessary Death Of Charlie Countryman later this year.
Bona Fide Productions' Albert Berger and Ron Yerxa, Voltage Pictures' Craig J Flores and Wonderful Films' William Horberg produced, while Voltage Pictures head Nicolas Chartier served as executive producer with Patrick Newall and handled international sales.
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I often find myself wondering how the next chapter of our nation's history will read. Will it tell of a prosperous society, where the citizens embraced freedom? Or will it read like the final chapters of Gibbon's "The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire?" I pray the former but am given to the latter at the moment.
How do conservatives get the broadcast media to hold this administration accountable?
I am writing in response to an article in The Times on Sunday, "Feds' immigration program extended," regarding the Obama administration extending the federal 287(g) immigration program. Since the article focused on the opinions and misrepresentations of a local attorney and illegal immigrant advocate, I believe it is important to set the record straight.
I want to communicate my position on expectations of our elected officials' responsibility to defend the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
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Jan. 22 will be the 40th anniversary of Roe v Wade. In this period some 55 million babies have been aborted. Abortion is like an evil, never-receding tsunami that has swept through our land, leaving in its wake enormous dissension and heartache. Unfortunately, in the next four years we will see a ramped-up version of this holocaust.
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Powerline defends the belief that President Obama is Muslim, insists: "he certainly isn't one of us"
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Powerline's John Hinderaker (Time's 2004 blog of the year) appears to be trying to set a smears-per-word record with his latest attack on President Obama. In just 310 words of original text, Hinderaker calls the president "post-American" (twice), accuses Obama of having an "above-America persona," of "posturing" as "a citizen of the world who has graced America by condescending to be our President and to instruct us," and says Obama has a "lack of connection to any identifiable Christian tradition" (ignoring, for example, Obama's stated Christianity, daily prayers and frequent Bible-reading, and the fact that he was, you know, baptized.)
Most insidiously, Hinderaker repeatedly suggests that it is reasonable to believe, as many people falsely do, that Obama is Muslim*:
The Pew poll, as reported by the Associated Press, finds confusion about Obama's most basic beliefs:
Americans increasingly are convinced -- incorrectly -- that President Barack Obama is a Muslim, and a growing number are thoroughly confused about his religion.
I love that "incorrectly." The AP has evolved into an opinion machine, so it's rare and a little startling to see it stand up so boldly for a "fact." He's not a Muslim, dammit!
Notice the scare quotes around the word fact? And the mockery of the AP for directly saying Obama is not a Muslim? Hinderaker dropped the subtlety in his conclusion:
We're not sure who he is, exactly, but he certainly isn't one of us. Given the currents that swirl through world events these days, being a Muslim is one interpretation of Obama's exoticism. Those who construe Obama in this way may well be wrong, but it is not hard to understand why they interpret his aloof non-Americanism in this way.
Hateful nonsense like this is far more responsible for the false belief that Obama is Muslim than is Obama's own "exoticism."
* Earlier this year, I explained why suggestions that Obama is Muslim are fairly labeled "smears" despite the fact that being Muslim is not a bad thing:
These complaints of "unseemly" denials are reminiscent of hand-wringing during the 2008 presidential campaign about whether it was appropriate to refer to the false claims that Barack Obama is Muslim as "smears." There is nothing wrong with being Muslim -- but of course those were smears. For one thing, they were false. For another, they falsely portrayed Obama as a liar. That's enough to qualify as a "smear" right there. But you also have to consider the intent, and likely effect, of the claims. Those alleging Obama to be Muslim certainly meant to harm him, and it isn't hard to imagine that they did so. Calling that a smear, then seems perfectly reasonable -- indeed, the claims smeared Muslims, too, as they implied that being Muslim is bad.
UPDATE: Slate's David Weigel neatly summarizes Hinderaker's post: "To be American is to agree with John Hinderaker; to disagree is to be a Muslim."
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UPDATED! AMD Announces FX-9590 and FX-9370: Return of the GHz Raceby Jarred Walton on 6/13/2013 5:50 PM EST
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DanNeely - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkIBM hit 5ghz with its Power6 CPU family several years ago, so AMD first boast is stretching things a bit. They're only the first with a 5ghz consumer oriented part; IBM used the Power6 for it's mainframes and other high end enterprise devices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWER6 Reply
Kalki70 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkBut Power was always a family of RISC processors. RISC processors use simpler instructions, but with higher clocks.
You can't simply compare clocks and say "IBM hit 5Ghz first".
DanNeely - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkx86 has broken its complex instructions into microops similar in size to traditional risc instructions. Aside from the initial decode step risc vs cisc hasn't been relevant at the implementation level for many years. Reply
DERSS - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkThis structural complexity adds processing overboard (CISC to RISC translation) as well as increases the size of the CPU, making higher frequencies harder to achieve. Reply
Guspaz - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkMany years ago, AMD estimated (as reported by Anand) that the x86 decode was only 10% of the processors cores. Since then, there have been a whole bunch of die shrinks. The x86 overhead probably amounts to less than one percent at this point, so it really isn't all that relevant anymore.
To software developers, the differences between processors and instruction sets are all abstracted away by compilers. The type of endianness is about the only difference developers might care about, and both POWER and ARM are bi-endian (can use either). Operating systems generally use little-endian ARM, meaning almost any code can be compiled for ARM or x86 without any changes.
To the vast majority of developers today, instruction sets are completely irrelevant and interchangeable. Even when developers do have to care about the processor architecture, they still usually don't care about the instruction set. Reply
dsumanik - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - linkBottom line, I dont care if its inefficient, slower, or the 220W TDP requires phase change.
Pretty cool to have a stock 5 GHZ CPU in your system!!!
Tired of Intel monopoloy selling is the same thing with a different sticker for the last 3 years.
Like haswell was supposed to be a revolution - In graphics AND IPC
yawn central.
AMD still has better IGP, and power barely dropped, in soime cases increased.
I mean its 2013 wheres my 10ghz CPU?
Kudos to AMD!!! Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linka 10 ghz cpu? there is a reason that netburst never hit intels 10 ghz estimate. it would have drawn over 400 watts of power, and blown up more than likely. who on earth wants that? Reply
Cptn_Slo - Monday, July 08, 2013 - linkAMD Does not have better IGP, Intel Iris Pro is easily twice as good with half the power consumption.
AMD will not get better until they move to a thinner fab Reply
wumpus - Monday, June 24, 2013 - link"Many years ago" x86 was 32bit, and only had 8 registers. Now AMD64 is 64bit and has 16, making your argument much more accurate (8 registers *mattered* and held back x86 by a measurable amount. 16 still holds it back, but not all that much).
There is also that bit about two address maximum (you describe source1&destination, source2) in instructions. This limits certain expansions (they got around it for FMAC, but it crops up in other places. I think the last time I heard about it was that intel added scatter gather reads, but couldn't do writes very well due to the architecture.
I suspect that emulating updating the flags with every instruction is far, far, harder than decoding x86 instructions. I can't say I've ever tried to design an x86, though. Trying to make AMD-64 go fast is still far harder than making an architecture built for modern design fast. Trying to sell a fast AMD64 chip is a lot easier than trying to sell a fast but incompatible chip. I also suspect that IBM-POWER is nearly as out of date as AMD64 (its easily 20 years old).
Your point is completely accurate from a developer standpoint. When was the last time you saw someone write assembler, anyway? Reply
xvart - Friday, July 05, 2013 - linkThe 16 register thing is not that bad, I've used power and know it's assembler, you don't want 32 registers, the write read time on that is just crazy for branching unless you use some of the restrictions on register usage which means your back at 8 anyway. The only chip that did this right was the 760, had shadow registers so it pushed the registers onto an internal stack 16 deep before pushing to ram. Also x86 was 4 16 bit registers you could divide them up but it made life very messy, (I've also done x86 assembler). Reply
scottwilkins - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkNo, they haven't broken it down much. Just added only new features with smaller instructions. The original x86 architecture is pretty much still quite CISC in nature. And why Intel/x86 can still take performance crowns in many applications. Reply
Zink - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkIf you will not allow it to be said that IBM was first to 5 GHz then I don't think you should allow AMD to say they have "the world's first commercially available 5 GHz processor." Reply
shadab47 - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - linkright Reply
xvart - Friday, July 05, 2013 - linkYou may find you as in a normal person can't buy a 5 GHz power chip so it's not technically commercially available. You can disassemble your mainframe to get one but makes it an expensive chip. Reply
MrSpadge - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkThis is ridiculous. If they say "We have the first CPU" they must be compared to other CPUs. If they said "We have the first x86 CPU" or "We have the first AMD CPU" then comparing to IBM Power 6 would indeed be invalid. Reply
woogitboogity - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkCISC or RISC is splitting hairs considering that AMD's claim was "first commercially available 5GHz CPU" with no mention of complex or reduced instruction set architecture. I, too, call shenanigans on AMD. Reply
Howlingmoon - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkThere was never a need for AMD to "mention" that their product was only to be compared to other x86 chips. Who in the world would actually THINK that AMD would be developing anything BUT a x86?? It goes without saying. To put it plainly...the IBM Power6 RISC chips could be compared to a weed whacker engine...all torque, extremely fast, and absolutely amazing at doing it's one thing...whack weeds with the greatest of speed and efficiency . The 9590 is the workhorse V-8 in a F-150 in comparison. Nobody would ever make any but the vaguest of comparisons to those two. Reply
danrien - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkwhoa... have to disagree with you there. RISC is known for being much more efficient than CISC. In fact, modern CISC processors run RISC under the hood and translate their old crusty complex algorithms to RISC-like instructions on the fly. Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkExcept we have things like AVX, SSE, AES-NI, etc. that are basically CISC-like extensions to do certain functions faster. The idea of RISC back in the day was to have a core set of instructions that were extremely simple and build a small and efficient architecture around those. Today, with billions of transistors in modern CPUs, there's little need to be purely RISC, and we now have all sorts of floating point and vector instruction sets available, with more added every generation -- simply because we can. That's why ARM has stuff like THUMB. You can get better code density with CISC and better performance with RISC, and the difference is almost entirely in the decode stage of the pipeline.
Anand talked about this five years ago (http://www.anandtech.com/show/2493/3). AMD's Fred Weber said the cost of x86 decode was 10% of the CPU core (not cache!) in the days of the the original Clawhammer/Sledgehammer parts -- roughly 4-5 million transistors is what I've heard tossed about. With Haswell GT2 at 1.4B and Vishera at 1.2B, we're now talking about less than 2% of the total transistor budget being spent on x86 compatibility (because we have 4/8 cores to worry about, not just one). The amount of transistors being spent on caches that bring diminishing performance gains is ballooning, simply because we have "transistors to spare"! Reply
JlHADJOE - Saturday, June 15, 2013 - linkYou're implying that Power6 can't be used for general-purpose tasks. I'm pretty sure it can. Reply
woogitboogity - Monday, July 08, 2013 - linkYou are not following me. My point is that all kinds of tricks can be used to jack up the clock speed without actually making any real improvements.
Also, all x86 chips are not created equal in terms of architecture. Pentium 4 presided over an era where things were the opposite of what they were now. P4 clock speed was under-performing compared to AMD chips of the same GHz to the point that AMD had to market their chips by naming them after the P4 equivalent clock speed they out-performed. This was because P4 had an absurdly long pipeline relative to its design and no real scheduling/branch-prediction compared to today.
Again the fact that all they have to talk about here is clock speed makes the whole thing stink. Reply
Klinky1984 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkCould you actually buy a POWER6 CPU on it's own? Wouldn't you have to buy a full solution from IBM to get access to POWER6? I think AMD would have been better to state it was "the first commercially produced 5Ghz processor available to consumers", which someone could spin better than what they wrote. Reply
Voldenuit - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkYou can't buy the FX 9xxx either. It's only available to system integrators, presumably to stop DIY builders from setting their houses on fire... Reply
lwatcdr - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkBut companies that are not AMD can buy the part. With the Power 6 it was an IBM only part. Doesn't really matter over all unless the FX 9xxx offers an advantage in price vs performance over the i7 4xxx. It maybe a good solution for people that need single threaded performance over multi threaded but until benchmarks are run who knows? Reply
samlebon2306 - Monday, June 24, 2013 - linkActually they bundle them with a fire extinguisher. Reply
JlHADJOE - Saturday, June 15, 2013 - linkYou mean like this?
http://www.upgradebay.com/Products/ProductInfo.asp... Reply
patrickjchase - Monday, June 17, 2013 - linkIBM has hit 5+ GHz with z196 and zEC12 as well, and those implement the (very CISC-y) 360/370/390/zArchitecture instruction sets. I would also note that in a modern Tomasulo-based OoO processor the distinction between CISC and RISC comes down to a few extra decode stages. The OoO backend ends up looking pretty similar either way.
AMD's specific marketing claim is "first commercially available 5 GHz CPU", so they appear to be drawing a distinction based on the fact that IBM doesn't sell POWER or zSeries processors individually or through retail channels. I imagine they had some fun negotiating that one with the legal department... Reply
JDG1980 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkIn context, it's obvious that AMD's claims only refer to x86 CPUs. No one cares who did what with some weird RISC architecture. Reply
FaaR - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkIn context it's clear that the press release is factually incorrect, and that you're trolling. That "weird" RISC architecture is a very well known big iron mainframe CPU, which quite a few people cares about. Even more people care about companies not lying about their accomplishments. Reply
bji - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - link"Nobody cares", "some weird RISC architecture". Yeah you're right, the world of computing just doesn't exist outside of the narrow realm of Intel processors released since 2010 and used by you and your teenage friends. Reply
lukarak - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkIt's not the same. They are not the same class of products. They do have a similar function, but couldn't be more different under the hood.
It's like saying that Honda couldn't claim they had a naturaly aspirated engine with the highest HP 'density' for a while (2000ccm 240 PS iirc, but you can take any NA engine of the time) just because Mazda had its Wankel process engine in the RX-8 that only had 1.3L but also had 250 PS. It's just not the same thing, although they are both car engines, just as RISC and CISC CPUs are both CPUs. Reply
maximumGPU - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkthat's a pretty accurate analogy! Reply
UltraTech79 - Saturday, June 15, 2013 - linkWhat are you, 9 years old? The only "nobody" here is you. Reply
rs2 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkNo, let's be clear here. When most people hear "CPU" what they think of is "x86 CPU". And this is indeed the first commercially available 5 GHz x86 CPU.
Bringing other architectures into the picture is not valid. But I'd agree to the extent that "CPU" should be explicitly qualified as "x86 CPU" in this case. Reply
Hector2 - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkNow that we know this is a 220W part (!), it's pretty clear that it's not for the mainstream market since it requires pretty heavy cooling. Seems to me that this was mostly a PR stunt -- "Hey, we're the first to 5GHz". Not much different from overclocking a standard CPU using liquid nitrogen or some other exotic cooling. Seems a waste of engineering resources to bring this out Reply
UltraTech79 - Saturday, June 15, 2013 - linkYou would do very badly in court. "But your honor! Its clear that they MEANT something else even if they SAID this". Who gives a fuck what "most people" think of when they hear "CPU"? Fact > Fiction. Reply
arbit3r - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - link"we're also missing details on TDP, cache size, etc. but those will likely be the same as the FX-8350/8320"
I doubt TDP will be same, rumored is over 200 watts which sounds right for an overclock of an AMD cpu. Reply
MrSpadge - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - link"we're also missing details on TDP, cache size, etc. but those will likely be the same as the FX-8350/8320 (i.e. 4x2MB L2, 8MB L3, 125W TDP)"
No way they're achieving these clocks at 125 W TDP! FX8350 already (almost) hits that mark. Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkAh, but you're missing the point: FX-9590 has a maximum Turbo Core speed of 5.0GHz, which is 800MHz higher than FX-8350's max Turbo, but what's the base clock? Richland A10-6800K and Trinity A10-5800K both have the same 100W TDP, but Richland can clock 200-300MHz higher and it also has a higher GPU clock. With process refinements and tuning, we might have a base clock of 4.2 or 4.4GHz and the maximum 5.0GHz will only be hit in single-threaded loads, which would potentially be possible while remaining in the 125W TDP. Worst-case, I'd expect TDP to be 135W. We'll see what AMD has to say though.... Reply
testbug00 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkRichland has a secret to allow clocks at lower power however.... I would tell you, but it is Charlie's to tell :/
and link: http://techreport.com/news/24940/amd-intros-fx-959... Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkIf they bump the TDP past 150W, then Bulldozer and its derivatives truly will be AMD's NetBurst. What amazes me is that Intel actually had the guts to can Tejas. Anand actually had a chance to run some early benchmarks on Tejas at one point, so it was basically complete and Intel realized that the part just wasn't going to be any good. I think the only way AMD fixes the Bulldozer architecture is if they seriously reorganize the pipeline at some point and stop going so deep, but I don't see that happening. Reply
Soleron - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkJarred, this is a halo part. Low production numbers, low yields, high TDP, SUPER high cost. Like expect $500 easy.
I'm not sure why you think this is a Bulldozer replacement. Reply
Hector2 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkI think it was an easy decision for Intel to make on Tejas in the end. The power numbers came in real high at the high frequency and they realized they could achieve better real performance at lower power and lower frequencies with a dual core. This became a "right hand turn" for them and setup the direction for all future architectures Reply
tipoo - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkReally? I looked over all the Tejas stuff but it never appeared to get to the benchmark stage, unless he withheld them? In which case, even now that it doesn't matter at all, I would still absolutely love to see the benchmarks, surely Intel can't care now. Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkI know Anand had a chance at some point to play with early silicon. I don't know if he still has any numbers, or maybe they just let him use it at a lab but no benches? I'll have to ask him.... Reply
Hector2 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkWhat I was referring to you won't find outside of Intel because Tejas never got that far out of the gate. It was clear during the design phase in Austin it would take too much power to get to the single core MHz target they wanted. Dual core beat it. Reply
JDG1980 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkWhy don't you think that AMD is going to reduce the pipeline length? I was under the impression that there were already some steps being made in that direction with Steamroller. The original Zambezi Bulldozer release was such a fiasco that it got AMD's management team canned, and the new management openly admits it was a failure. Stuff like this 5 GHz chip is clearly just a stopgap solution; in the medium term (next couple of years) they either need to fix their architecture so single-thread IPC is at least at Sandy Bridge standards, or they need to just ditch the construction equipment line of cores altogether and return to a K10 derivative (just as Intel ditched NetBurst for the P6-derived line of CPUs that continues to this day). Reply
silverblue - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkI doubt that AMD can get SB level single thread performance with Steamroller. These cores are much smaller than Intel's; the real performance boost should be in multithreaded scenarios, though it shouldn't be difficult for Steamroller to, well, steamroll previous FX processors in even light workloads. Nehalem single threaded performance would be nice. Reply
bji - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkIf AMD can stay afloat for a few more years (and they've managed to do so under worse conditions than now so I don't see why they won't), they'll close the performance gap with Intel.
Haswell has demonstrated that x86 is asymptotically approaching "the fastest per-core that it will ever be". The writing was already on the wall with Ivy Bridge, and now Haswell has put the definitive stamp on the issue.
It's simply not cost effective for Intel to pump the ever increasing R & D dollars, not to mention transistor count, necessary to advance x86 IPC significantly. The x86 market is not growing relative to other chip markets anymore thanks to mobile devices, and "more than good enough for 99% of uses" was already achieved by x86 some time ago. The just aren't that many dollars chasing higher x86 performance anymore and Intel can't continue to spend what is necessary to advance x86 speeds on a reduced performance dollar budget.
Given that, AMD now has time to play catch up. Intel is no longer going to be making each of its successive chip architectures significantly faster than the previous, so AMD is no longer chasing a moving performance target. Because AMD has not hit the same walls that Intel has hit in terms of IPC improvements yet, it has room to advance its performance more quickly than Intel does - until it hits the same walls in a couple of years.
At that point, AMD and Intel will have fairly similarly performing parts from an IPC perspective. Intel will still have superior process technology which will allow it to have a better high end story, although not nearly as much better as it has now. Intel will also have better thermals and power use due to superior process technology as well as generally better designs.
Even though AMD will eventually reach near parity with Intel on performance, it will not benefit from it the way Intel has. Because by that point, the x86 market will be even further cannibalized by mobile devices and AMD will be fighting for an ever larger piece of an ever smaller revenue stream. Intel already milked x86 for the best of what it was worth, from a profit perspective, over the past few years, and by the time AMD is in a position to significantly challenge Intel, the milking will be over. AMD will continue to do just well enough to stay afloat but will never make boatloads of money off of x86 like Intel has. Reply
testbug00 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkConsidering that overclocked piledriver uses 268 watts (from the source i heard) and everything i have seen point to a max 220W power usage it is amazing.
and they could get it down to 150 (maybe) if the parts are similar to the Richland xxx5/xxx7 parts... i don't know :(
And my understanding is that Steamroller is a deep change in the bulldozer uarch.... :)
Also, Considering that netburst's power consumption is more from leakage (and i believe most of Bulldozer's is not) the issue is a lot more of the silicon it is made on....
on another note i met someone who apparently has run their 8350 at 1.7 volts since they got it (right when it came out) 0.0.... This scares me because AMD has been really conservative with voltages on Llano and Trinity.... If they are not conservative i think 150W might be possible for the part that turbos to 4.7 :) Reply
JlHADJOE - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkConfirmed @ 220W:
http://techreport.com/news/24953/amd-reveals-base-... Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkArticle has been updated. TechReport probably just got the same email I did. 220W. Ouch. Reply
JDG1980 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkThe rumors have been saying 220W TDP. That sounds outrageous, but the rumors about "Centurion" have turned out to be right so far. That would explain why they are starting off by selling to system integrators only - if they sold a 220W chip through normal retail channels, it would result in a lot of fried motherboards (and maybe even house fires). Reply
JarredWalton - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkJust for reference, because it's somewhat interesting: the highest ever TDP on a retail x86 CPU to date belongs to AMD's 140W Phenom II X4 965 BE. If we widen the search a bit, I don't know about RISC CPUs, but Itanium 2 had a maximum TDP of 150W, and that was an absolutely MASSIVE chip. I could see AMD going for 140W again (likely because they need the power to hit the clocks they're talking about), but more than that would be seriously crazy train.
What's scary is the more I think about it, the more the "system integrator" stuff makes me think there might be credence to some of the 200W or higher rumors. It would also explain the bump to FX-9000 series ("9000 is for high power parts"), at least in part.
I really hope AMD doesn't try to go with a >150W part, and more than that I really hope most consumers are wise enough to not buy one, especially if they launch at significantly higher prices which is what I'm now hearing. Could you imagine $500 for the FX-9590? More than any Haswell or Ivy Bridge part, and while I suppose it would be competing against the SNB-E parts, I'm not sure what benchmarks it would win, even at 5GHz. Guess we'll know in the next couple of months. Reply
lmcd - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkIs it possible this is a die shrink? Like Apple moved their A5 from 45nm to 32nm quietly, could AMD have moved to 28nm without mentioning? After all, Steamroller is supposed to be 28nm GloFo which hasn't been used before. Reply
JarredWalton - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkThis isn't Steamroller, though -- it's just Vishera redux. So it's 32nm -- AMD would be making a far bigger deal over getting to 28nm I'd wager. Reply
MrSpadge - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link125 W should be enough for single threaded turbo, but loading all cores requires significantly more juice. That Trinity / Richland example is actually quite nice in this regard: they need 100 W even for 2 modules at 4+ GHz. Well, they can stay within reasonable TDPs if they just keep the base clock low enough... Reply
lmcd - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkDon't forget the IGP in that Trinity/Richland example. Reply
Hector2 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkIt'll come down to real performance metrics, price and power. AMD led the charge away from MHz years ago with a focus on actual performance, not MHz. Strange that they're pushing MHz again now. Reply
Khenglish - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkHigher frequency isn't a bad thing. What's bad is killing your cache sizes and having ridiculously long pipelines to do it (pentium 4). This new cpu looks to be a new revision of piledriver that can just flat out run faster. I'm thinking it's somewhat like the old days where you see a cpu double in frequency from initial release to final stepping (P3 coppermine). I doubt AMD went over 125W since if they did absolutely everyone will blast them, just like intel was back in the late P4 days. Trying to market a 125W vs a 84W is bad enough, but say 150W vs 84W is getting silly.
I see this cpu actually beating intel in some multithreaded applications. Of course 125W is a lot higher than 84W, and if you overclock the haswell up to 125W...
Hopefully steamroller will narrow the IPC gap enough that the higher clock speeds are enough to catch intel. Reply
Mountainjoy - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkIs it faster then my now 2 year old 2600k running at 4.8ghz? Has AMD caught up to 2011. Reply
djshortsleeve - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkStill waiting for the urge to upgrade from 2500k. Reply
halbhh2 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkdjs, if you're like me, where I want a 60% performance gain as a bare minimum vs my current chip, and not for $400+, but more like $200-, then there is more waiting to do (though in my case, I'm only waiting on price at this point). Reply
testbug00 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkthat depends? if you use linux it caught up with overclocked bulldozer......
if you use windoze, no. Reply
Mountainjoy - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkNo sadly I dont fit into the .003% of users who'd actually gain any benefit at all from using Linux. Reply
testbug00 - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linki believe it is more like a few percent... maybe..... XD ;)
but the gains from windows to linux for BD uarch is crazy..... well, if both platforms are optimized, i have not seen anything with vanilla linux (no optimizations by user), that would be interesting! Reply
nevertell - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkThe performance gains come from using software that is compiled with a non-biased and optimized compiler and a kernel scheduler, that actually is aware of the architecture of the cpu. Reply
ShieTar - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkYou did not buy that CPU at 4.8GHz. It's rather silly to expect a stock CPU to beat a massively overclocked CPU from only 2 years ago. Reply
JlHADJOE - Saturday, June 15, 2013 - linkPretty sure Nehalem did that to Core2. And then Sandy did it again to Nehalem.
In that regard, Haswell is pretty disappointing. Reply
npp - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkI think 200W TDP is unrealistic, I doubt there was ever a stock consumer CPU with such rating and it seems unlikely any manufacturer would try to push such parts as even "enthusiast" class. 140W may be a realistic target, or why not 125W even, as it was the case with Phenom II X6 series. They were able to slip in the same power envelope as older X4 parts, despite having two more cores. Reply
silverblue - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkI imagine GF's 45nm process was significantly mature at the time X6 was due for them to make some decent power savings, however they were generally clocked below the X4 series. Reply
notorious1212 - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkHere's more what I'm thinking:
Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-visher...
I am skeptical about the 125W TDP, but if that's the case, the performance gain from a base clock increase isn't that bad. I would probably invest in that. I don't have much hope for increased game performance. However, I think if the next gen consoles start bringing multi core friendly titles to the pc, AMD's parts might have more longevity and accuracy than they're given credit for. Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkAs far as gaming goes, Ian has already shown that the vast majority of games are GPU limited at high quality settings until you get more than two GPUs -- provided you have at least an A10-5800K or FX-8350, your CPU is "fast enough" for nearly any game we're likely to see in the next couple of years. Reply
Traciatim - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkThat's only true for a certain subset of games, and generally those games are console ports (IE, simple CPU stuff, and 'high' settings means "just add more textures and launch it on PC!").
Pretty much any grand scale PC game (like MMOs or RTS games) are heavily CPU bound, and in the vast majority of cases where CPU matters AMD falls flat on their face.
Though console ports will still probably run well, considering the CPU's in both the new consoles are low powered net-book style CPUs. So I'm sure there will be enough games for everyone to play.
I can only hope both the server and client for Planetary Annihilation have benchmarking tools, that would be great. Reply
iamezza - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkIt all depends on the games. You can't conclude that the vast majority of games are GPU limited unless you actually test a large number of modern games. Ian only tested 4. There are a large number of games out there, often PC only multiplayer games, that are massively CPU bound.
Check out this one : http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/05/01/i...
In Shogun 2 an overclocked i5-3570k gets triple the minimum FPS of a stock Phenom II X6 1100T (36FPS vs 12FPS!)
The gains in Arma II are large too at 80% higher minimum FPS. Reply
flurazepam - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkBy the same token, an overclocked i5-3570K is twice as fast as an i7-3930K in Shogun 2 according to the graph you linked to. We know the 3570K doesn't stand a chance in multi-threaded anything against the 3930K. This clearly suggests this game is single threaded because the OC 3570 is also faster than the OC 3770K with the results you presented. To suggest they are CPU bound is disingenuous if they're only using 1 core. Moreover, the memory controller also features prominently in some games and this needs to be addressed as well. Reply
rocketbuddha - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkJarred,
For now, the Next Generation CPU core also known as Steamroller will only find its way into APUs.
AMD has not given(yet) any indication as to when the Piledriver based FX MPUs will transition to Steamroller based FX series. So you might need to tweak the below statement like AMD tweaked the FX series ;-)
Bulldozer was 1st Generation FX-series, Piledriver is 2nd Generation FX-series, and ahead we still have Steamroller (3rd Generation FX-series) and Excavator (4th Generation FX-series), but they've chosen a different route.
But tell me this. Is the base clock the same 4.0 GHz for the FX-9590 ?? If 5GHz is turbo it is certain that certain cores are turned off guarenteeing that. Apparently AMD has been hiring marketing BS people from Samsung (of the Exynos "Octa" fame) while Samsung has been poaching AMD's engineering talent. ;-)
Cheers! Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkI took out the FX-series reference for you, since you're correct. As for the base clock, it remains (as yet) undisclosed, probably for good reason. And I'm not sure if AMD poached Samsung's marketing people or if they just hired the same marketing group that handled Intel's NetBurst clock speed frenzy. :-) Reply
DigitalFreak - Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - linkCan't have a race when only one person is running. Reply
polyzp - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkAMD FX 9590 benchmarks leaked! See for yourself
amdfx.blogspot . com Reply
silverblue - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkHa. If those were true, there'd be no point whatsoever for the 9590. Steamroller would obliterate it in nine or so months from now.
If the 9590 had a basic clock of 4 to 4.2GHz, I could very much believe a TDP of 140W max, but no lower as turbo is per module as opposed to per core. However, from the various rumours floating about, there's little chance of a base clock that "low", meaning some significant power draw at load. Would this halo product actually use a proper implementation of CnQ in order to keep clocks and power down at idle?
Overclocking any CPU can dramatically raise power consumption; I imagine a 5GHz i7-2600K would suck down some power, but anything thereafter would drop that a fair bit. Reply
larkhon - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkIf those benchmarks are anywhere near true, the next thing we need to know is prices. Will it be on par with i7 4770k?
it always funny to see the critics made about AMD and their 5Ghz CPUs. Even if AMD beats Intel performance-wise, they will always be people saying 'it does but consumption is that much higher'. Basically Intel is just changing the rules so that they always win.
And Intel is how many times bigger that AMD? it's hard to compete when you have far less money... Reply
JDG1980 - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkNo one's changing the rules. AMD had better products than Intel during the NetBurst era because they had better IPC and lower power consumption, even if the top-of-the-line Intel CPU sometimes beat AMD's in raw performance. In late 2003, Intel announced a modified Xeon CPU as the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, which narrowly defeated the Athlon 64 in many benchmarks, but cost $999 and was widely panned by reviewers. Do a Google search for 'Pentium Emergency Edition' to see what people were saying about it at the time. This 5 GHz Vishera is basically the same thing coming from AMD: a stopgap solution which has high clock speed but low IPC, and terrible power efficiency and thermals. Intel only broke out of this pattern when they updated their core to Conroe (Core 2 Duo) and dropped their focus on high clock speed and long pipelines. AMD will have to do the same if they intend to compete. I know their focus isn't as much on the desktop as it used to be, but the construction equipment series is very ill-suited for portable devices, so it doesn't even make sense from that perspective. The only place the high-core, low-IPC, weak-FPU parts might have any advantage at all is in the server market - and they have not been very successful even there. Reply
HisDivineOrder - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkWell, at least AMD is looking at the non-APU performance CPU segment. Even if this isn't the offering much of anyone wanted. It's nice to see AMD do some token competition. Reply
BSMonitor - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkAren't these the 200W parts we have seen rumors of?? Reply
woogitboogity - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - linkAh for the days of Thunderbird... when being a rebel meant a faster and cheaper CPU. Now being a rebel just means you are on a budget and have to make due.
For goodness sake Intel proved in spectacular fashion with the P4 architecture that clock speeds don't mean jack. Core2, Nehalem and everything that has followed have showed that architecture can be everything. Yet here we are...
AMD resembles the USSR more every year:
AMD: "You do something... we can do bigger!"
INTEL: "but... um... the point was to make it small..."
AMD: "I say point is make big! Strong like bull! Smart like tractor! High clock speed like Bulldozer!!!" Reply
Guspaz - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkLet me just whip out my 1.21 jiggawatt processor I've got here...
The TDP of this thing is insane (in a bad way). Ludicrously high TDPs to get minor clockspeed bumps (relative to power investment) smack of marketing BS. Reply
beesbees - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkThis is like Intel racing Amd with Intel being a few car lengths ahead but there is a dead end up the road. Play catchup AMD while you can before that dead end ends up to be a new access road and intel has more road to be ahead of you. Reply
Hector2 - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkOver the years, Intel usually has had the advantage of being a process node (or 2 now) ahead of AMD. That makes it more difficult for AMD to compete in either performance or power. I give AMD credit for doing as well as they have until the last few years. Now, not having their own fab makes it more difficult still Reply
JarredWalton - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkHey, they're still only one node ahead: 32nm to 22nm was Intel's last shrink. Only problem is Intel is due to roll out 14nm around the time AMD goes to 28nm, so AMD is only getting a half-node the next time. Of course, AMD (and GF) are behind on the 28nm transition already. Reply
silverblue - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkI think they're relying on the high density libraries to bring down Excavator's power usage in line with another die shrink. It would help immeasurably if they brought that particular idea forward to Steamroller, really. Reply
JDG1980 - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkGlobal Foundries can be blamed for some of AMD's woes, but not all. Intel manufactured Sandy Bridge on 32nm; if AMD had anything that good, I think there would be a lot less dissatisfaction with their offerings. The problem is that Bulldozer/Piledriver just has atrociously low IPC and power efficiency compared to Intel's last couple of generations. Reply
woogitboogity - Monday, July 08, 2013 - linkThe funny part is that Intel could never afford to have AMD go under. The industry has been free of anti-trust lawsuits mainly because Intel busts out their "gimp" (AMD) as a counter-example.
The cool thing about that though is that AMD will always have the resources to make use of chip design talent (especially something revolutionary). After all Intel's Core2 chips came out of nowhere and caught AMD flat-footed.
As much as we complain about it, business-wise AMD relies heavily on the APPEARANCE of being neck and neck with Intel. Intel can generally manage to outdo them in almost every way but I wonder whether they deliberately allow these sorts of moments to happen so that AMD does not get marginalized completely and put out of business. Reply
glugglug - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkAt 220W, I doubt the OEM solutions are air-cooled! Understandable that these are going to system integrators only --- that is just nuts! I'm thinking the only possibilities here for who is buying them is Alienware and VoodooPC. Reply
Quindor - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkMaybe they integrated a crazy strong GPU after their experience designing the SOC for both the PS4 and XboxOne? If OEM's build a proper box with closed loop cooling in it, it could enable some very interesting designs which would be harder if the heat was coming from two chips.
Since the new console announcements I've actually been hoping to see some way to convert them back to 'normal pc' usage because they would make awesome cheap gaming rigs. And historically seen, all consoles ever released have had some alternative way of using them. ;) Reply
JDG1980 - Thursday, June 13, 2013 - linkThe FX series are plain CPUs with no integrated graphics. What you're looking for is Kaveri, which is coming later this year and is supposed to integrate a reasonably good GPU and have a homogenous memory architecture similar to what is on the new consoles. Reply
dragonsqrrl - Friday, June 14, 2013 - link"So we're basically looking at a 76% increase in TDP relative to the FX-8350 to get a 19% increase in maximum clock speed. It's difficult to imagine the target market for such a chip"
... my thoughts exactly. Reply
silverblue - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkWell... there's always those who think it'll overclock better than previous chips, but I can't imagine that being a particularly large market. Kind of leaves a bitter taste.
I wonder what amount of power AMD expects this to use on average. Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkwell, the 125 watt 8350 uses about 213 watts under maximum load with turbo enabled. thats a....58 percent increase. if the same applies for the 9000 series, that would be...347.6 watts. Reply
TheinsanegamerN - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - linkhowever, if amd uses slightly lower voltages, and more controlled turbos, uses higher binned chips, ece..my bet is about 300 watts. Reply
CharonPDX - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkWouldn't a race involve more than one competitor? Intel gave up on the GHz race when they decided to end Netburst at 3.8 GHz, and go dual-core (then Core-architecture) instead. Reply
Hector2 - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkAMD's FX-9000 series 220W power demonstrates exactly why Intel (and AMD) had stopped focusing on MHz originally and started building multi-core with higher total performance and lower total power. Reply
Azethoth - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkAw, came here to read about magical MHz race breakthrough tech. Instead I get an article about how you can get high MHz with a chip as hot as the sun.
I like speed, but I desire quit above all. This does not make things quiet. Reply
ibilisi - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkWait, haven't we been through this already?
I think I have a couple delta black label 60mm fans sitting around and a couple Alpha PAL heatsinks. Probably could mod them to fit. Or I could get out my full-on double panaflo (metal) fan watercooling setup with Chevy heatercore.
Give me a break AMD, why even release this? Realistically, releasing this chip is equivalent to AMD waving a white flag. The market has shifted to efficiency ACROSS THE BOARD, mobile devices, servers, HTPC, desktop you name it. A new GHZ race? Please, consumers won't fall for it this time. Reply
Gabo91 - Friday, June 14, 2013 - linkYou should stop reading at the third paragraph, everything else doesn't matter. Reply
Beenthere - Saturday, June 15, 2013 - linkI doubt the 220w is really TDP but more likely total power consumed, despite what some may say. If you OC an FX-8350 to 5.0 GHz. and measure the total consumed power it's closer to 165w so that is what the actual TDP is likely to be for comparison to the 125w TDP rating of the stock FX-8350. The claimed 220w TDP may be to justify not selling these CPUs to the retail segment? Reply
JarredWalton - Saturday, June 15, 2013 - linkUm, no. Not at all. If you overclock an FX-8350 to 5.0 GHz and do nothing with it and measure idle power, yes, it's probably around 165W. As soon as you put any sort of load on it, it will jump up to 300W or more. TDP is about the maximum power a chip will use under load, not about what it will use in a light workload. Surfing the web, it's probably going to consume 40-50W; playing a game or encoding a video, it will probably be very close to that 220W.
I would bet they'll eventually sell the FX-9000 parts in the retail market as well (though potentially only as OEM chips rather than boxed chips). They would need a good motherboard and cooler though, which AMD can't necessarily guarantee on the motherboard side, so we'll see. Reply
denb - Saturday, July 13, 2013 - linkDear Jarred;
To get 220 Watts @ 3 Volts requires 70 Amps,
How many stock PCs can supply that for just the CPU?
Thanks for your info, den Reply
UltraTech79 - Saturday, June 15, 2013 - linkWhat does it matter?
The FX series is AMDs Pentium 4. Reply
denb - Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - linkDear Jarred:
Do You know the Max DDR3 supported? Their new A10-6800K can use up to 2133 Mhz. If this FX-9000 does not also, then it is kind of a waste of Watts! Reply
Calinou__ - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - linkThe FXs can also use 2133MHz RAM, but it is considered as overclocking. Reply
denb - Monday, July 01, 2013 - linkDear Calinou; Do you mean, if the Mboard BIOS supports 2133 Mhz,
then a FX-9370/9590 will see that and use it automagically ??? Reply
random2 - Thursday, June 20, 2013 - linkOK....Am I losing it?
"We have now received the most important pieces of information from AMD..."
Not quite. Other pertinent information is also important like ....when is the product being released and when will it be available? Reply
denb - Monday, July 01, 2013 - linkAMD Said: " In a few months. " Reply
tiagosilvamsn - Thursday, September 05, 2013 - linkPara mim tdp tao alto não me preocupa tenho um bom cooler a ar , espero que venha novas placas mãe para ele , aqui no Brasil falta placa mãe boa para amd ! e não tem um apoio grade em varejo de peças mesmo assim optei pela AMD e sempre continuarei utilizar seus produtos . Reply


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DETROIT - A group of community leaders and activists are preparing to take action next week as the new Detroit emergency financial manager starts on the job.
Next week could be a week to remember in the fight against the emergency financial manager law.
"Whatever it takes to stop it. People died for the right to vote to maintain that," said Patrick Driscoll. "We should be willing to sacrifice our comfort to do that."
The National Action Network is preparing to take the fight from the pulpit of the Historic King Solomon Baptist Church to the streets of Detroit in full force.
Reverend Charles Williams is the pastor of Historic King Solomon Baptist Church in Detroit, and the president of the action network in Michigan.
"We got some tactics that we will certainly be using in terms of protests and demonstration," said Williams. "Our message will be heard. That's definitely for sure."
They said their plans are to make Kevyn Orr's first week on the job difficult.
Multiple protests are planned for next week, including one at the Spirit of Detroit Monday morning.
The fight isn't over if Orr can turn the city's financial troubles around, they say it's over democracy.
"If Kevyn Orr came in and did an excellent job, it still doesn't deal with eradicating democracy in Detroit," said Williams.
"The city does have a lot of problems," said Shahida Muta. "The country does have a lot of problems. But that is still not a right to take away the right to make a decision and the right to vote."
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A couple of weeks ago I told you about the Newport Celtic Festival as something fun to do if you were around the area. Today, I bring you the winning Irish Soda Bread recipe so you can enjoy a little Celtic festival at home.
Irish Soda Bread with Caraway & Drambuie
submitted by Margaret Boone, 1st prize winner
2011 Newport Celtic Festival and Highland Games, Baking Contest
- 1½ cups Golden Raisins
- 6 Tbsp Drambuie
- 2 cups Bob's Red Mill Organic Whole Wheat Flour
- 2 cups Bob's Red Mill Enriched Unbleached Wheat Flour
- ¼ cup light Brown Sugar (packed)
- 2 tsp Baking Powder
- 1 tsp Baking Soda
- 1 tsp Salt
- 1 Tbsp Caraway Seeds
- 1½ cups cold Buttermilk
- 2 large Eggs
- 2 Tbsp unsalted Butter (melted)
In a small bowl, combine raisins and Drambuie. Let stand for 30 min.
Preheat oven to 375°F. Grease baking sheet.
In a large bowl, using a whisk, combine flours, sugar, baking powder, baking soda, salt and caraway. In another bowl, combine the buttermilk, eggs and butter. Beat slightly with whisk. Add macerated raisins. Make a well in the dry ingredients and pour in the wet. Stir with wooden spoon until moistened. Turn the dough onto a lightly floured counter. Knead gently about 6 times or until it comes together. Form into 2 round loaves; place on baking sheet. Using a serrated knife, slash the tops with an X no more than ¼" deep.
Bake 40-50 min. or until loaves sound hollow when tapped and are brown & crusty. Serve warm.


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Wikia is rolling out a fun[citation needed] new initiative for the holiday season called "Time to Play" where we ask our wikis what page they're most proud of. They want to know which page you would want to have represent Uncyclopedia.
More information can be found at this blog post by Nate.
I found this out over at the environmental nutters' website and thought Uncyc would be interested. —qzekrom.net16.net clicky! 01:58, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh boy. So many things come to mind. John Scherer, People Who Like to Fuck Naked, that new WIKIA pic with the dick, Boner.. Pages I love are The Thinkers UnBooks:The Night I Slept with Björk, Fluffy Bunny World, and especially The Camera Obscura Collection of Hans Helmuth Saltzman (1602-1668). But I guess the page we are most proud of might be A wizard did it. Yeah, that one. Aleister 2:26
- We should all vote on an article as a community. I nominate Adolf Hitler and my vote counts as 200 votes. --Hotadmin4u69 [TALK] 06:03 Dec 14 2012
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A wizard did it
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POLICE marksmen had to be called in the kill a pair of dogs which left a trail of death as they attacked sheep in farmer's fields in Rishton.
Blackburn magistrates heard a total of 11 sheep were killed as the Japanese Akitas, also known as Japanese fighting dogs, turned savage.
And a police officer who tried to chase the dogs away was left in fear for his own safety when they turned towards him baring their teeth and growling.
Jason Sleddon, 23, of Sparth Road, Clayton-le-Moors, pleaded guilty to being the owner of dogs dangerously out of control. He was remanded on bail for the preparation of a pre-sentence report.
Police received reports of dogs chasing sheep near the Leeds and Liverpool canal at Cut Lane in Rishton.
PC Simon Grounds, who was first on the scene, saw the dogs attacking and killing sheep.
He followed them up the hill towards Tanhouse Farm where he saw them kill more sheep and attack and chase others.
PC Grounds requested the attendance of firearms officers as he continued to follow the dogs.
At one stage he approached the dogs and tried to chase them away from the sheep but they became aggressive towards him, snarling and growling at him.
The officer had to back off and during the time he was waiting for support saw the dogs kill two more sheep.
The attacks happened in February and both farmers who lost sheep said the ewes were pregnant and many more could have died or lost lambs as a result of the attacks.