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Any people in their late 20's/early 30's love RE4?
After quickly kicking the awful PC port to the curb back in 2009 (no, the HD patches didn't help and controls required at least 2 taskbar utilities to not be completely terrible), I got a copy of the Wii version, ripped it and started running the best version of this game possible on the latest Dolphin emulator. Using an HD patch as well.
After completing the first village level I have to say I'm a bit confused. THIS is the gold standard for the last console generation?
Everything about the game screams juvenile. From the characers' appearance and the way they act (seriously, Leon is basically Action Man without the orange clothes), to the paper thin plot and setting that is just an excuse to shoot things. The sense of atmosphere in say, Silent Hill 3 or Penumbra is non-existent here. The hilariously cheesy "scares" the game throws at you are basically the kind of gimmicks you'd find in an amusement park.
The reverence directed at this game has got me thinking: was this game released when a new generation of gamers were just starting to get their voices heard?
I understand this kind of subjective enthusiasm: I am convinced to this day that Metal Gear Solid is a peerless masterpiece (the game was available in the shops when I was 17).
I get the feeling that Resident Evil 4 is one of those well executed games where a younger audience would not look to closely at the campy/bad plot and characters, but would rather be overwhelmed/impressed by all the well executed game design aspects of the game.
Out of curiosity, any of you older gamers objectively consider Resident Evil 4 the best game you have played in your entire lives?
I was in my late 20's when I played it a few years ago. It certainly wasn't scary, the action gameplay was kind of rudimentary and stiff, and the characters were cheesy as hell. Yet, for some reason I can't quite put my finger on, I really liked it. It hooked me right away and kept my interest until the whole thing was over.
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I'm 27, I liked RE4 a lot when it came out. In terms of cheese, story and writing it's no better or worse than any other game in the series.[FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][I]A brave heart and a courteous tongue. They shall carry thee far through the jungle, manling.[/I][/FONT]
That's why I started the thread. I see that you two enjoyed the game but it didn't leave as lasting an impression as with those who are now in their early 20's.
I quite enjoyed it, though that may have been influenced by company (my housemate and I were playing turnabout whenever one of us died). I'd never played a RE game before, but I found it an enjoyable cheesy over the top bit of action (I'm 25 and played it when I was 22 I think).
One of the best games I've played? Far from it. Good slice of fun. Undoubtedly.
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Looking at my post I think it's slightly misleading, suggesting that I've "grown out of" the likes of Resident Evil. That's not true, the only reason I didn't get RE5 is because from what I read it didn't sound up to much. RE4 was a hell of a lot of fun and if I went back and played it I suspect I'd enjoy it a lot again.[FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][I]A brave heart and a courteous tongue. They shall carry thee far through the jungle, manling.[/I][/FONT]
I played the first couple of hours of RE5 with a different friend, neither of us liked it and we'd both enjoyed 4.
I only played Resident Evil 1 and 5, never really completed it though but I loved the jump scares the game had; those dogs jumping through the window at the start, my heart skipped a couple beats.
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I desperately tried to enjoy resi 4. I just attributed the "gta 4" review nonsense effect.
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I really enjoyed Re4. Not so much like the old Resident Evil games but I had a *lot* of fun managing the crowds with no bullets, dealing with this mob of murderous psychotics. Especially when the ones with the chainsaws come out....
As the game goes on I'd argue it actually gets less interesting and certainly it would have been nice to have more bits where you blockaded yourself in and held out for the best. But I could play RE4 just for the mercenaries mini-game, got perfect with all characters after hours and hours and hours of playing....
Though that said, if anyone says its the best game they've ever played they are clearly talking about the gameplay and nothing to do with the ridiculously overblown and nonsensical plot.
I liked RE4, and it played pretty well overall. Much of RE4 is homage set pieces, and they're fairly respectable for what they are. Some parts were better than others, some are genuinely cringe-worthy (especially Salazar). It's a GameCube game from 2005, so I don't know what you were expecting. Capcom isn't exactly a bastion of maturity (though Dragon's Dogma was refreshing). Some things are popular BECAUSE they're campy, and not in spite of it, but it's a fine line and awfully easy to fall on the wrong side of.
Metroid Prime, however, is still perhaps unsurpassed in its niche.
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Resident Evil 4 was the first Resident Evil title that I played from start to finish. I played a bit of the REmake and RE 0, but never finished them. The story was cheezy like a 90's action movie, but to be honest, that was what made it so fun. Leon is a likable protagonist, and it's absolutely hilarious that he seems to take the plot as seriously as most players would. And while I would probably never call the game scary, it was definitely tense. I never felt comfortable while playing the game, like I was in control. And whenever I heard a chainsaw revving up, I would straight up panic sometimes. It was not a masterpiece, but it was fun as hell.
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I remember borrowing PS2 and buying new copy of RE4 just to play it and i kinda liked it,i mean the only other RE game i played it then was RE1. But playing it several years ago i fucking hate the game,its one of the most overreated games from last gen..
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I would never recommend overreating video games, it's bad for digestion.
I love RE4! I turn 30 tomorrow, so assuming I still love it then, I'll get to have done both categories. You'll be set.
And of course it's juvenile. Ridiculously so. But I love the story. The writing is just so incredibly awful, but something about it cracks me up. Nearly every single line of dialogue has at least something slightly odd about it, and as a cumulative effect it starts to almost feel deliberate. I suspect the game's writers were not self-aware at all, but the translator just might be. But also probably wasn't. And the actors certainly weren't. But it always somehow feels like it's tiptoeing right next to parody. As far as I can tell, it's absolutely unique in the series for this - they're all cheesy as hell, but they're not this... odd.
The gameplay is fantastic though, and the environments and general atmosphere are awesome. They're the reason I play, but the cutscenes really do put a grin on my face. I'm sorry they spoil the game for you. I know it is supposed to be a horror game, but comedy-horror is a viable genre and one I don't mind games stumbling into, even if only by accident. I think I'm seriously actually saying "try to see the funny side" here.
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RE4 was a game changer. By and large it regenerated a genre that most critics had dismissed as stale - while Resident Evil 2 et al had refined the mechanics, the only game adhering to the old aesthetic and offering something notably different was Silent Hill 2. It has been influential on practically every 3rd person action game released since, I even remember Epic saying it was very closely scrutinized during development of Gears of War.
As with most things like this it is somewhat difficult to enjoy by today's standards - at least to those free from nostalgia. Other games have borrowed the parts that worked and fixed those that were broken. The control system feels archaic, a nod toward earlier titles where the feeling of helplessness was at least partially induced due to the awkwardness of getting your character to do what was wanted - what was needed - for them to be safe.
Capcom weren't (and still aren't) willing to ditch the Resident Evil cheesiness and delivering a more 'adult' storyline - it remains pure comicbook and not a particularly intelligent nor convincing one. This is largely fine by me to be honest - cheese can be enjoyable and taking issue with this is more slanted toward the realms of personal taste than anything else. Coming into (any) Resident Evil game expecting intelligent horror is antithetical to its entire nature. The series has always been a themepark of horrors, replete with sideshows and highscores. There are some truly horrifying themes at the core of the Resident Evil lore but they're glossed over and never explored in depth.
I could spend all day deconstructing the game. It's true that some won't get the narrative aesthetic and bounce right off it. Which is a shame, because the mechanics and design of everything else is brilliant, and only improves as the game goes on (for example, by far the most unsettling enemy is only introduced toward the end). Thrusting you into a teeming and hostile village with little training, warning and ammo is one of the greatest baptisms of fire any opening scene in gaming has offered. The cognitive dissonance created by the presence of the shop keepers remains one of my favourite mindfucks in gaming - probably unsurpassed until the release of Spec Ops: The Line. Greetings, stranger! What are you buyin'?
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Steve Finn admits he is upset and disappointed at being sent home from England's tour of Australia but accepts he is currently "a long way from being picked" for the national side.
The Watford-born fast bowler has struggled with his bowling action in recent months. He was named in England's 17-man squad for the Ashes series but didn't play in any of the five tests which ended in defeat for the tourists.
Finn was also not involved in the opening one-day international, which England lost by six wickets, and missed out on Tuesday's 172-run victory against a Prime Minister's XI.
Despite relentlessly working to fix certain issues with his bowling whilst down under, he has been left frustrated and admits it is best for him to return to England.
"I don't think it will take too much for me to get back to where I want to be," the 24-year-old told England Cricket's YouTube channel. "The best environment for me to do that is back in England."
He added: "At the moment I'm a long way from being picked for England and I am honest enough to know that."
Ashley Giles, England's one-day coach, said Finn was returning home "for his own good" but was adamant the former Langleybury and West Herts player has a future with the national side and stressed he remains one of England's most talented bowlers.
Finn admits he is disappointed not to have played during his time in Australia but says he returns knowing he worked as hard as he could to sort out his problems.
"I am knackered because I've spent so many hours in the nets trying to get it right," he said.
The former Parmiter's School pupil plans to spend two weeks away from cricket when he gets back to England before returning to Middlesex Cricket Club and ironing out his problems.
Finn, who has taken 90 wickets in his 23 Test matches, believes he is not far away from readdressing the issues currently affecting his game but admits it may be some time before he returns to the international side.
England leave for a tour of the West Indies in February before the World Twenty20 competition in March.
"It will be difficult for me to put my hand up for selection because there will be no outdoor cricket before that point," Finn admitted.
"So that might be slightly unrealistic for me. I am not letting go of the hope that everything might click once I get back to England but it will be difficult to push myself for that tour."
Finn joked that he "hadn't forgotten how to bowl" but felt he had to return to playing "with a youthful naivety" that he had at the start of his England career.
He will try and rediscover his form back with Middlesex, who train at Radlett Cricket Club, and director of cricket at the club, Angus Fraser, believes it is important Finn rediscovers his love for bowling.
"It's hugely frustrating for Steven because he wanted to play a major part in Australia, but sometimes the harder you try the worse it gets," Fraser, who played in 46 Test matches and 42 one-day internationals for England, told BBC Sport.
"Working every day to try and win selection, with people asking where he is and what he's doing, is not the ideal environment.
"I think the main thing is that Steven falls back in love with bowling. I've seen bowlers run up in tears before.
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A look back
As 2013 comes to a close, the Daily Times Herald staff looks back to the events and stories that had the biggest impact on residents and readers
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Our choice for the top story of the year was the mass exodus of long-standing community leaders from their jobs in government, education and business.
Wade Lengeling won his year-long battle with a nerve cancer when doctors declared him cancer-free this spring, but there exists a risk for years that the disease might return.
December 31, 2013
1) Year in transition
Carroll County saw a collection of strong, veteran leaders depart from a variety
of positions. At the courthouse, treasurer Peggy Weitl, auditor Joan Schettler
and assessor Diane Janning retire from exceptional careers effective today.
Long-time Carroll Area Development Corp. (CADC) executive director Jim Gossett left that position for one with Raccoon Valley Electric Cooperative in Glidden. Steve Schulz, the provost at Des Moines Area Community College and president of the CADC, moved to the presidency of Mason City's North Iowa Area Community College. Schulz also had served as middle school principal and superintendent in the Carroll Community School District.
Just days ago, city officials honored two councilmen with a collective 24 years of service, Mike Eifler and Jeff Scharfenkamp. Neither sought re-election.
2) Mental health fight
The Carroll County Board of Supervisors, led by its chairman Mark Beardmore, waged a fierce fight to keep Carroll County out of the state's developing regional system of mental-health services. Beardmore went so far as to talk with the governor one on one - on a Sunday, no less. The two Republicans talked for nearly 30 minutes about the state's mental-health redesign.
Ultimately, Carroll County did not receive an exemption.
The county expects to spend $1.3 million on mental-health services for the fiscal year starting July 1, meaning this isn't just about service for people with mental issues, it's about taxpayers.
Carroll County has maintained robust reserves for such services, and supervisors don't want to see that money, built over years, used to lift any economically troubled counties in a region Carroll could be forced to join.
In a promising turn to the story, supervisors have worked with their counterparts in Crawford, Calhoun, Sac, Ida and Buena Vista counties on an agreement for a regional network of mental-health services. That plan is now awaiting state approval. Cherokee County has expressed some interest in joining the group.
"Everything has gone real well," said Carroll County Supervisor Gene Meiners. "They have the basic philosophies we have and desires we have."
3) St. Anthony Clinic
St. Anthony Regional Hospital in June opened a $2.3 million renovated-and-expanded clinic, brimming with patient comforts, efficiencies and state-of-the-art medical technology.
"This was an opportunity for us to gain efficiencies in how we provide medical care on our campus," said Ed Smith, president and CEO of St. Anthony.
The St. Anthony Clinic developed in space once occupied by the McFarland Clinic, now located on South Grant Road.
Smith said the design of the 15,000-square-foot St. Anthony Clinic is aimed squarely at improving the patient experience. The St. Anthony Clinic combines specialists in family medicine, internal medicine, OB/GYN and pediatrics in one setting.
St. Anthony officials say the combined specialties will better serve people in the greater Carroll area with comprehensive services right on the St. Anthony campus.
4) Crime in Carroll this past year was eclipsed by three homicides in adjoining counties.
The first, just after New Year's Day, was Kirk Levin's brutal attack on his mother in her rural Early home in Sac County. The then-21-year-old left an eastern Iowa prison on Jan. 1 and two days later waited for his mother, Marilyn Schmitt, to go to sleep in her upstairs bedroom before he surprised her with a knife and cut and stabbed her 88 times. Levin also choked her with a belt and bashed her on the head with a large glass bottle filled with coins.
Levin was arrested after he kidnapped another woman but drove too fast on a slick gravel road and went into a ditch. A jury convicted him in June of first-degree murder, and he is serving a life prison sentence at the Iowa State Penitentiary in Fort Madison.
The second homicide, in March in Crawford County's Dow City, happened as the result of a bar fight between two residents.
Benton Wingrove, 27, and Adam Lary, 29, had fought outside of the bar Cheers about 1 a.m. after an argument inside the bar. It's unclear what sparked the argument.
A shooting was reported about 40 minutes later several blocks away. Wingrove allegedly fired a handgun more than a dozen times at Lary's car, which veered around a corner, accelerated for several blocks and crashed into a house. One of the bullets struck Lary in the chest and killed him.
Wingrove faced a first-degree murder charge but later pleaded guilty to three felonies in August and was sentenced to up to 30 years in prison.
The victim of a third homicide in September was a beloved Rockwell City police officer who was among a group of law officers in an overnight standoff with Corey Trott, 32, who was wanted for allegedly attacking his mother and stealing $300 from her.
Officer Jamie Buenting approached a window of the house and was shot in the neck by a semiautomatic rifle fired from inside the house. The standoff ended hours later when Trott gave himself up.
He faces a first-degree murder trial in April.
The most significant crimes closer to Carroll included a string of burglaries and vehicle thefts committed in July by two area teenagers - Zach Wailes, 19, of Breda, and Josey Wilson, 19, of Carroll - who narrowly escaped capture by sheriff's deputies three times in less than a day. They were eventually arrested hiding in an upstairs bathroom of a Grand Junction house after a resident there telephoned a tip to law officers.
The pair pleaded guilty to a series of felony charges and were ordered to live in residential facilities for rehabilitation.
The other major criminal scheme was a blackmail attempt against a Sac County farmer by his daughter-in-law.
Elizabeth Aschinger, 24, a co-owner of Anytime Fitness in Carroll, allegedly bought the business with the help of the farmer, had an affair with him, and then enlisted the help of two others to blackmail the farmer for more than $55,000 in May, according to court records. They allegedly threatened to reveal the affair to the farmer's wife.
Sac County investigators used cellphone records to foil the plot when they allegedly traced calls to the farmer from Jason Heffelmeier, 29, of Buckingham, and Andrew Menken, 37, who quit his job as the Carroll County juvenile court officer after he was arrested for the scheme.
Heffelmeier and Aschinger have since pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit extortion and received deferred judgments, in which they will not go to prison or be officially convicted of a felony if they abide the terms of their probations.
Menken has maintained his innocence and faces a trial in January.
5) The Carroll Community School District joined a new age of education this year when it put Google Chromebook laptop computers in the hands of more than 900 Carroll High School and Middle School students. It's commonly referred to as the "1-to-1 computer initiative."
Superintendent Rob Cordes said the move to electronic learning might make textbooks for certain subjects obsolete.
Some of the anticipated benefits of the laptops are:
- Endless online research sources.
- Improved collaboration on projects among students.
- Improved ability for teachers to track students' understanding of lessons so that they can adjust if necessary.
- Students are active in researching information so they're more likely to retain what they find instead of memorizing from books and lectures.
- Chromebooks allow students to research and do assignments at any time, nearly anyplace.
- The opportunity to create sharp presentations demonstrating communication skills and thorough understanding of materials.
6) This past year marked a dramatic change in the lives of some children in the Carroll area. Their struggles and triumphs where highlighted in the pages of the Daily Times Herald.
First there was the Carroll 3-year-old, Wade Lengeling, who survived a nerve cancer with the help of doctors and surgeons in Omaha, Neb.
Medical tests last year revealed the 3-by-5 cm tumor that straddled Wade's left kidney and reached for his spine. The cancer had spread to his femurs, ribs and neck. But chemotherapy, a surgery to remove the weakened turmor, and his community's undying support led to Wade's cancer-free diagnosis this spring.
For two other teens, the struggle to return to normal life will likely be longer.
Mackenzie Gorden, 19, of Lake City, and Hannah Streeter, 16, of rural Lake City, were both paralyzed in separate crashes in the past two years on the same highway north of Glidden.
Streeter crashed in September on her way to school in Glidden. Her sport-utility vehicle dipped slightly onto the gravel shoulder of the roadway, and Streeter apparently steered to swiftly back across the highway. The vehicle overturned and threw Streeter. Her legs didn't move for several weeks as her body recovered from the crash, but this month she walked with the help of a walker out of the Des Moines hospital that treated her.
Gorden's struggle to move has been longer and more grueling. Since her June 2012 crash, when her pickup truck tumbled down a hill when Gorden swerved to miss a deer, she has sought treatment at two top-notch, out-of-state hospitals.
Gorden spent the past two summers in a Denver suburb that hosts one of the country's preeminent spinal injury recovery hospitals. This summer she took part in a cutting-edge program that is designed to teach her legs to walk despite the weakened connection between them and her brain.
In September, Gorden walked in her sister's wedding - in which she was the maid of honor - with the help of her brother and the best man.
7) St. Anthony Clinic
St. Anthony Regional Hospital opened in June a $2.3 million renovated-and-expanded clinic, brimming with patient comforts, efficiencies and state-of-the-art medical technology.
"This was an opportunity for us to gain efficiencies in how we provide medical care on our campus," said Ed Smith, president and CEO of St. Anthony.
The St. Anthony Clinic developed in space once occupied by the McFarland Clinic, now located on South Grant Road.
Smith said the design of the 15,000-square-foot St. Anthony Clinic is aimed squarely at improving the patient experience. The St. Anthony Clinic combines specialists in family medicine, internal medicine, OB/GYN and pediatrics in one setting.
St. Anthony officials say the combined specialties will better serve people in the greater Carroll area with comprehensive services right on the St. Anthony campus.
8) Carroll school projects
Construction on a 10,000-foot expansion to Carroll Middle School is currently underway in the district.
The addition, expected to be completed by the start of the 2014-15 school year, will host the district's fifth-grade students.
The move will ease overcrowding issues at Fairview Elementary. The start of the district's pre-kindergarten program brought an additional 150 students into the school. The ensuing lack of space forced educators to convert the commons area into cubicles and guidance counselors to work out of closets. When the addition is completed, the fifth-grade students will move from Adams Elementary to the middle school, allowing the third-grade students to move out of the Fairview building and into the Adams building.
The middle school addition and a renovation to the building's entrance will cost about $1.3 million. The district bonded a total of $7 million against future state sales tax revenues for a series of project that also include a new softball stadium, a new wrestling and storage area at the high school, an updated high school entrance and a renovated cafeteria at Fairview. A parking lot expansion at Fairview was also completed earlier this year.
9) Syngenta news
Syngenta, a Switzerland-based international agribusiness Goliath, announced in March it would be closing its Coon Rapids seed corn production and supply facility effective today, a move expected to cost 31 people their jobs in Coon Rapids.
The news hit Coon Rapids hard.
But earlier this month, Syngenta announced that Hartung Brothers, Inc. (HBI) has agreed to acquire the Syngenta Coon Rapids seed production-and-supply facility.
HBI is a family-owned and -operated agribusiness and produces seed corn for Syngenta on a contract basis.
HBI has indicated its intent to operate the facility for the benefit of its customers. Syngenta and HBI have a long-standing working relationship in the seed business, and this acquisition provides benefits to the seed industry as a whole, Syngenta said in a news release
"We see this as a positive outcome, as HBI intends to operate this facility as a seed production plant," said Clayton Osburn, head of Corn Production Operations for Syngenta in North America. "This means that Coon Rapids will preserve an important, longtime business. The production facility team there has performed at a high level with valuable knowledge, skills and experience."
10) In Memoriam
In 2013 the Carroll area lost three consequential leaders.
Father James McCormick, the former pastor at Holy Spirit Parish who shepherded the Bishop Greteman Center project to completion, recruited African and Indian sisters to Carroll and led a number of community initiatives, died April 5 at age 76.
James B. Wilson, publisher of The Carroll Daily Times Herald for the past 36 years and a prominent western Iowa economic development advocate involved in a half-century sweep of projects and initiatives in Carroll County, died June 3 at age 69.
Lynn J. Brinker, a Mount Carmel-area native and the former chief executive of American Home Shield who moved a call center from California to Carroll in the 1980s, died Jan. 23 in Santa Rosa, Calif. Brinker was 81.
Honorable mentions
Jefferson casino
In August, Greene County voters passed a gaming referendum with 75 percent "yes" votes - the highest margin of victory for a casino-introduction referendum in the history of Iowa. Votes to renew licenses for longtime casinos around Iowa have been higher.
The Iowa Racing & Gaming commission will set a Jefferson site visit and public hearing before the state panel's final vote, which is expected in the spring.
The planned $40 million Wild Rose casino in Jefferson is expected to employ between 250 and 275 people.
A 70-room companion hotel is being developed by Wisconsin-based Cobblestone Inn & Suites. The 20,000-square-foot casino is expected to have 500 slot machines and 14 table games.
Greene County development officials are actively marketing property for related development south of the casino.
Templeton Rye hits 1 million
Gov. Terry Branstad had about as much fun as possible with Templeton Rye on a Wednesday morning in December - without actually drinking The Good Stuff.
The governor carefully placed labeling on Templeton Rye Spirits' 1-millionth bottle, guided by the practiced hand of company veteran Gin Knobbe during a mid-morning ceremony in southern Carroll County.
Branstad beamed as he assisted company co-founders Scott Bush and Keith Kerkhoff seal the box for shipping Bottle No. 1 million to the state's liquor warehouse in Ankeny for general distribution into the Iowa market.
The Carroll Area Connect Young Professionals in August spearheaded a major day-long celebration in Graham Park.
CarrollFest brought together a number of smaller independent events under one umbrella, taking advantage of economies of scale and allowing the efforts of different groups - such as the United Way and Graham to Graham and Kids Health and Safety Fair - to feed off each other in activities centered on Graham Park.
With the success of the event, organizers are planning for 2014.
Water shortage
Carroll Mayor Adam Schweers in April signed an emergency water proclamation aimed at preventing shortages in the summer.
The most significant requirement in the restriction regime is a move to alternate-day residential irrigation and home car washing.
The scorching summer forced most residents to abandon irrigation strategies, sparing the city tougher choices on water-use policy.
The Public Works Department is continuing to work on an expansion of Carroll's well field to boost the water supply. A five-year capital-improvement plan ranks the project as a priority.
Manning's downtown revitalization
Main Street Manning and the City of Manning obtained a $500,000 federal community development block grant for a downtown revitalization project in which at least 15 businesses will see their facades renovated to original historical significance.
Willey religious retreat
Sister Marie Hesed says it was fitting that the August groundbreaking for Domus Trinitatis Sanctum of Spirituality, a religious retreat center northwest of Willey, was taking place at its future entrance.
To the delight and cheers of a couple of hundred people in attendance, Sister Hesed and four fellow members of the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity donned hard hats and enthusiastically turned the first shovels of dirt for Domus Trinitatis, which will be developed on 31 acres on the east side of Noble Avenue, about 1/4 mile north of 250th Street.
Domus Trinitatis found a home when in March 2012, Leon and Donna Kennebeck donated the 31 acres in the rolling hills about two miles northwest of Willey to Sister Hesed and the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity.
Domus Trinitatis will be a place where priests and nuns, as well as the general public can renew their faith. The retreat will be open to all those from Jewish and Christian faiths.
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DETROIT - Local 4 is inside the courtroom for the federal corruption trial of former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, Kilpatrick's dad Bernard Kilpatrick and his childhood friend Bobby Ferguson. Each day we bring you information from inside federal court as it happens.
And so here we are, the last day in the courtroom for the Kwame Kilpatrick federal corruption trial before jury deliberations begin.
Yesterday we finished with defense closing arguments and we will move on to government rebuttal with US Attorney Mark Chutkow before the case is passed on to the jury for deliberation.
Kwame was reading the book of inspirational verses he has had throughout the trial. He passes it on to Bobby Ferguson who flips through and then hands it off to Bernard Kilpatrick.
Yesterday's closing arguments definitely finished on an emotional note. Ferguson's lawyer Gerald Evelyn got quite emotional at the end as he quoted from Martin Luther King Jr. He had Kwame wiping away tears and even a juror was crying openly.
9:00AM Judge Nancy Edmunds enters. Immediate sidebar with counsel.
9:05AM Chutkow at the podium, ready to start with his rebuttal.
Good morning ladies and gentlemen.
Waiting for a juror.
In my opening statement in this case, in the evidence in trial, in my colleague's closing statement, this case has always been about bribery, extortion and fraud.
The defense has tried to say it was about the drive to help minority businesses. That agenda was a smokescreen for their real agenda which was to help themselves. They drove out white and black businesses.
If people got in their way, they crushed them.
First Odel Jones, when he confronted Ferguson about lack of safety equipment at the Book Cadillac. Ferguson was offended. Work opportunities for Jones dried up. He went to everyone for help.
"Odel Jones call your mama, lol." says Ferguson. "I know. And my sister," responds Kwame.
Tom Hardiman who went to congresswoman Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick.
Ferguson texts Kwame that they called his mother.
Talking about Jim Jenkins who had the temerity to not hire Bernard's client. So Bernard tried to get city regulators to drive him out of town.
A bid deal was made about Ferguson mentoring. All he could come up with was Simmons from E & T Trucking.
Hardiman cut Ferguson out and started working directly with E & T Trucking. Ferguson got furious he wasn't paid. So he went and tried to get E & T's certification pulled.
"This is not mentoring. This is knee-capping someone who was about to stand on his own."
Mr. Thomas in closing said that Ferguson was out in the cold who was digging sewers no one wanted. Tell that to Avinash Rachmale, Willi Hayes and McCormick who all wanted to work in the cold.
When Kwame came into office, first thing he did was to hold up 1368. They thought this was justified because Charlie Williams was a minority front. Williams was the former head of the DWSD.
Williams is now the head of a successful company. He wasn't a front.
Let's talk about the real fronts in this case. Akunna Olumba that Bernard tried to insert in a deal. Where are the boots on the ground on this?
They were going to use Daniel Ferguson as a trucker? Where is the transparency?
Lets talk about Archie Clark. Bernard talking to Kado about inserting him in a food contract. He had no experience in food.
Amendment #4 to 1368. Kwame's team says he was too busy to sign the amendment. That contract was held up that whole summer. They had face to face conversations with mayor weho said he was holding it up till Ferguson got paid.
Ferguson confronted Bernard Parker in a parking lot about siding with Inland against him and the mayor.
Also heard from Derrick Miller who said he went to a meeting at a restaurant with Dennis Oszust and Ferguson so that Oszust would know who supported Ferguson. That's where Ferguson got his $350,000 payment and a week later the amendment went through.
Parker was subpoenaed to testify in this case like everyone else. There was no benefit.
Want to talk about outfalls contract. Defense says the no show payment was a settlement claim. If that's the case, where is the paperwork? And why did Ferguson give a fake invoice for $450,000 with his wife's name on it? Because he knew it was extortion.
Baby Creek. We never dispute that the bid was delayed for a proper reason. It's after bid opened that the extortion started. Bernard Parker was working with Walbridge at the time. Miller told him they had to use Ferguson on the project even though Parker said they had someone else. That's the reason for the hastily written contract. Think about that. they had to cobble this together. Administration had to see that buddy was taken care of.
Now back to Lakeshore and 1361. Defense says it was canceled because it wasn't needed. Daryl Latimer of DWSD testified it was needed. Victor Mercado went to the board about it and then 5 months later changes his mind and cancels it.
Text from Ferguson: Hello Black you haven't released that contract, right?
More from Ferguson: 1361 is the same contract, prices maybe less than the other one, but hey you know the rest. Kwame: Cool!
Why would Kwame be interested? Because he shared in it.
Latimer didn't understand why it couldn't be kept. In July 2003, Mercado comes into his office to write him an email about not needing the contract. Latrimer says he did i9t and felt uncomfortable. Next day, he gets an email from Mercado following his advice and canceling it.
the Heilman Recreation Center. See the text between Ferguson and Beatty and you know that was rigged.
Lajuan Wilkes. The only reason she got in trouble was because she was doing her job. Who was on both her recreation projects? Xcel. She knew they were double dipping and told the board. And for it , she gets berated by Ferguson in front of boss who does nothing.
Ferguson's influence in Kwame's administration. Look at internal communications between mayor and Ferguson.
Look at Ferguson's instructions on Baby Creek.
"Baby Creek, I told you when I needed help, help fucking victor, i don't need DWSD to sit in on the bid opening."
Next the sinkhole in Sterling Heights.
"We need to meet on how I move in. I got a great idea, sir..."
Defense says that Soave is such a bigshot that he can't be messed with. He has businesses in the city. If he can be bullied, why did he dump his good friend Chalie Williams? He did it because the mayor told him too.
And when Ferguson caused problems, why did Soave go back to mayor and say is he still your guy?
Let's talk about Kathleen McCann. Ferguson told her ""You act like Victor has ever made one decision ever." She said working with Ferguson was like having "a sword dangling over our head."
Look at notes from head of DLZ, Mr Prata Rajahyaksha, he refused to give Ferguson more work because he didn't complete projects. Ferguson told him he didn't " You don't need to worry about the director. Worry about me" He didn't listen and got his certification for DLZ yanked and then mysteriously re-inserted. Why would that happen? Contract 2012 goes between those two.
You heard from Kim Harris of Human Rights department that he was told to yank certification on orders from mayor.
Defense claims that Kwame didn't use his power to help Ferguson in any way. If that's true, think about the police department project.
Text from Christine Beatty: "Why not Bobby on this?"
Kwame reply: "Bobby wanted to strategically lose a major bid. He will be on this one at bid time."
The pressure on city contracts got so extreme it even trumped family ties. You heard Miller say that Ayanna Kilpatrick complained to him about getting clients in on Synagro deal.
Ayanna text: "Here we go with Bobby bull again!..... Can we make $ too?!
If sister can't make money, how can Odel Jones. Kwame was putting his own money making ahead of his sister.
This text is about a journalist who used to be with Detroit news.
Fergusuon: Darcie asking if we are friends. Kwame texts back telling him to downplay it and to say he is a supporter. He stuffed half a million in his accounts. He spent more than $840,000 than he had in his accounts. How does the defense explain it? Kilpatrick's attorney says it all came from gifts.
First wedding reception which occurred 6 years before he became mayor.
"One thing is clear with Kilpatrick, cash gifts are preferred."
If that's true, why is his banking activity before he became mayor so normal. He was acting like a normal person who didn't get bribed.
That all changed when he became mayor of Detroit. Looking at a very good chart that shows red down dip before he is mayor and then green peaks afterwards.
He put just enough to pay bills but not enough to alert regulators.
So how does defense explain green. It all comes down to Splash of Red party that apparently was awash in cash.
Like check from Mablene Rogers for $10 to Kwame.
Defense asked Agent Ron Sauer if IRS went to every check cashing facility in the city.
"Mayor had time to sign a $10 check but he didn't have inclination to sign $12 million amendment #4."
The $10 is the same amount that William Tandy felt comfortable with. But he felt like he had to step it up so he gave $100 and had to eat Ramen noodles for a week.
We heard about lavish twice a year office parties. Heard from Kizzi Montgomery that contributions were expected. She made $32,000 a year, 5 times less than the mayor of Detroit but she was expected to give him cash.
A $22,000 Rolex watch and a family vacation.
She didn't say there were balls of cash.
What is apparent is the selfishness of the mayor. It was a one way street. Nothing for anyone else but his partners there.
If he could shakedown his employees, do you think he minded shaking down a big businessman?
Number one person was Bobby Ferguson.
"It was no splash of red. It was a tidal wave of green."
Thomas suggested that Kwame asked Rutherford to give him $10,000 for suits to Dubai and that he requested another gift to go to Vegas to go entertain. Someone who is looking to land a casino in the same city. That is not a gift. that is a bribe.
Like the payments of Ferguson. Like the payments of Kado.
Over the period, Ferguson took $2.3 million out of his business accounts. Defense says we didn't make a direct correlation from when Ferguson made withdrawals and deposits into Kwame's account. You saw the cash in his safe's he didn't have to go to bank.
Saw checks with truck parts. Problem is that they don't always mean what they say. Checks that were under $10,000 that were given to Golden Sun jeweler.
They were in a partnership together. Kwame went out of his way to steer contracts to Ferguson.
Coded communications about meeting. Marc Andre Cunningham said when Kwame learned that he was being tapped, they had outdoor conversation with hands over their mouth.
Kwame had hundreds of thousands flowing through his account that didn't come from a legitimate source.
Defense suggests that all that cash from Ferguson came at the end because he was chased out of banks. He was taking money out the entire money Kwame was mayor.
Ferguson sharing spoils of scheme when Mahlon Clift took $90,000 to give to them.
Want to talk about legal standards. In deliberations, you will get indictment. It provides a structure. Will also get a glossary that correlates. Use them together to look at exhibits in orderly manner.
The only chapter I want to talk about is the racketeering conspiracy, count 1. Must find that one of the members would commit at least 2 of the listed crimes:
Federal Offenses- extortion/bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud, obstruction of justice state offenses: extortion and bribery.
Take any 2 of these offenses shown here.
Showing pictures of people involved in Kilpatrick Civic Fund- for mail fraud.
Picture of 3 sisters for obstruction of justice charge.
Collage of 18 different witnesses.
Defense said that Kwame only misspent $13,000 of Civic Fund expenses. You have heard in this case of more than $200,000 misspent. $200,000 given to family and friends. Chart doesn't include $150,000 for political campaign. Chart doesn't include total of $550,000 misspent.
Recall testimony of April Edgar who signed Civic Fund. She said she was told by Mayor Kilpatrick and nobody else. That last meeting was called by the mayor.
Take a look at the IRS application. Kwame signed himself to get tax exempt status from IRS. When you dissolve nonprofit, it is supposed to go to another non profit.
Don't forget what the donors told you. they were asked hypothetically if they would have given if they knew it was used for summer camp and massages. they al said no. that is fraud.
Defense said that Kwame gave back $13,000. First of all, if they truly wanted to pay back the fund, it was more than $500,000. Look at timing of payback, it only came back after grand jury subpoena of fund uses. Only after the subpoena, after almost a decade of using funds, that he paid back only a sliver of what was owed.
I want to talk about Bernard. Shea talked about Rosendall's credibility. You can't trust him because he was stringing along Bernard and lying to his bosses at Syngaro. I can tell you Rosendall was in a bind because Bernard was in a dispute with Rayford Jackson and Rosendall got caught in the middle. Bernard said he would blow up the billion dollar deal. Defense says it was a legitimate debt. If it was a legitimate debt, why didn't he go to court? Because courts don't enforce acts of extortion.
Shea talks about checks supposedly for consulting work. Those weren't corporate, they came from Rosendall's personal account. One memo line for check reads loan.
Bernard didn't have issues taking money from people. Bernard didn't take cash in a restaurant. Bernard said that there were only 3 peopple in the city willing to go under the bus for him. 2 of them are sitting right there as Chutkow points to defense table.
Keep in mind that Kwame lost special administrative power in 2006. Not to say mayor didn't have power. He was still Victor's boss.
Shea asked why Rosendall was lying to his bosses. Couldn't come clean because he was engaged in activity with Bernard. We don't excuse conduct for Rosendall but he paid price and went to jail.
Rather than undermining Rosendall credibility, he knew what he was doing was wrong. Doesn't exonerate Bernard's behavior.
Defense says that Rosendall was bought and paid for. When he came to court, he had already served his sentence. He had nothing more to gain from the government.
10:00AM Judge calls for 15 minute break.
10:17AM Judge Edmunds re-enters. Jury has been very into the proceedings this morning. They are taking a ton of notes.
This is it. We are about to end government rebuttal.
Chutkow at the podium, ready to go. EPA agent Carol Paszkiewicz standing right next to him.
Chutkow said he was alerted to mistake at the break. Says that the certification for DLZ being yanked related to 2014 and not 2012.
Wants to talk about Karl Kado. Regular payment to Bernard that totaled in the hundreds of thousands. Received a final payment from Kado for $100,000.
If Bernard ran a legitimate consulting service, where are the invoices, receipts? Why didn't he demand a check to keep his ledgers in order. It's because he didn't want anyone to know about the payments.
If Kado was paying a real consultant, he could just write a check to him. He could have taken a deduction. Kado could have used help on his taxes.
Why are the hundreds of thousand of cash that went between Bernard and Kado not on Bernard's tax returns? Bear that in mind when thinking about tax charges.
Tapes. In one recording, mayor is talking to Bernard and says city owes Kado but it's a question of how much. Later when Kado tells Bernard he is not going to pay him, Bernard tells him it could take 2 years to get paid. Same amount of time he told Rosendall.
"No deal without me" mantra.
Defense says Kado couldn't keep things straight. Said there were 8 inches of snow in august. Kado said there were 2 bribes that took place but Thomas cut him off before his explanation.
Cunningham said that he paid cash in the basement by barber shop because it looked wrong on 11th floor. It is wrong if it's bribe or extortion.
All the alleged work that Bernard did for these people, Kado, Rutherford. I would submit that most of the work was done by his lawyer Shea who would come up with why these people would pay him in the first place.
Shea says that there is no signature on the tax form. are they suggesting that Bernard's tax preparers went rogue? these supposed rogue tax prepares sent it in October for $91,000. That same day, Bernard paid the IRS $91,000. How did he know exact amount? Because he authorized filing.
The defense says you can't believe witnesses who pleaded guilty. Cunningham, Miller, Kado and Rosendall. We don't disagree. that's why they are all convicted.
It's interesting that all this corrupt activity is going on at city Hall without these defendants.
House sitting analogy. It's ridiculous. Proper way to look at it. If your spouse is in an accident, and several witnesses come to tell you and then you get text messages about it. would you go to hospital? Of course you do.
What the defense don't tell you about the government is that there is a consistent pattern of behavior by defendants. Behavior is the same.
Doesn't depend on testimony of a witness. Too many witnesses saying same thing.
Want to avoid 2 things: cash and text messages.
Cash is the smoking gun in the hand of the defendants,. no way to explain why a public servant would have that much cash unless he is being paid off.
Texts are proof. Like going to your brain, to your thumbs to the receiver., Like a crime scene to review whenever you want. You won't get any better evidence than the text messages in this case.
corruption happens with winks and node, in the shadows when no one is looking.
Who are the government witnesses? Bernard, Kwame and Bobby picked these people. They are their friends and people they worked with. Mahlon Clift did nothing wrong but show loyalty to Kwame. And what was his reward? the defendant attacked his credibility and businesses.
Defendants sais that Clift stopped testimony in grand jury and then called his mother., That's fairly obvious. He was about to disclose about the $90,000. he stopped and called his mother who is a lawyer.
Defendants want you to think that his mother told him to lie under oath. Preposterous. what kind of mom, particularly a lawyer, would tell her son to lie to grand jury?
What motive would he have to make this?
Agent Joe Jense went through the metal detector with cash a hundred times without setting off.
Defense says government didn't want to play the video. not true, they got to it first., We were going to show it with Jensen.
Why do the defendants want you think Mahlon Clift made this us? Because if not they are guilty.
Derrick Miller told you his was a friend of the mayor. He was a reluctant witness. What does he get in return? He was attached by them for telling the truth about himself and them.
Testimony Cunningham by Parker, McCann, Kado.
Next Emma Bell. Defense took aim and called her alcoholic and gambling junkie. Long time family friend.
Cunningham because he admitted that he was paying kickback to Bernard at request of Kwame.
who did they spare? Jon Rutherford, a tycon who made $650,000 a year from homeless shelter and used money to bankroll Kwame to bankroll casino. That is the one guy they chose to remain loyal to.
The defendants have engaged in pattern of deception that continues to this day. The state Arts Grant. Said money would be used for runaways, senior, peer mediation. Evelyn said it was transparent. So why did Ferguson doctor invoices sent to the sate?
Using public money is not overkill. It is wrong.
then Ferguson told sisters to lie about donations to hide his relationship to mayor.
Evelyn says that he did counsel them to lie but to the Gambling commission and not to grand jury. Where is transparency in that?
Defense jumped quickly over sinkhole. Why? May have to do with what they presented to you?
We are looking at altered time sheets. Made to seem like Ferguson was at the sinkhole in august 2004 to undermine text messages about how to move in.
This was a lie to you. the truth is that Ferguson didn't work in late August, he got there September 14th Paszkiewicz showed you that. That was all 3 weeks after.
The defense presented alternative theory with altered document to make it seem he was there first.
Look at top document. Real exhibit and the fake exhibit. Chutkow does really cool overlapping technique by pulling from original document and pulling it to altered one and removed date.
A witness said the document date had to be wrong.
This is what they passed off to you. This would have stood had Pazkiewicz not seen that something was wrong and hunted for the truth.
Could be wrong but it seems Chutkow is saying this defense exhibit was tampered with after trial began.
Defense lawyer Mike Rataj shaking his head vigorously.
You've heard from witnesses who did not commit crimes but were compromised by defendants.
Pay to play system corrupts the system.
If Kwame hadn't let Ferguson run rampant with his support.
Thomas talked about Lakeshore. Did they get more contracts? Yes. But when did it happen? After they agreed to Ferguson extortionate demands, paid him $1.7 million in no show plus additional $800,000.
Lakeshore paid financially and ethically.
Honest businessmen like Odel Jones did not stand a chance. People who paid taxes, water utility bills, who put Kilpatrick in office, they didn't get goods and services for lowest price and they didn't get honest government.
You share a common goal to see justice done. you were selected together and represent together. Now you're time to work together to a verdict. In deliberations, keep open mind. If you work together in good faith, you can come to decision that is wiser than any one person in the room.
Throughout this trial, it has become clear that Kilpatrick and accomplices used public he was elected to serve. He we elected to look out for their welfare. not elected to stuff quietly half a million in his accounts or that Bobby got $83 million on revenue or that his father was middleman. He was entrusted to act for people of Detroit.
Evelyn read from Profiles of Courage by then Senator John F. Kennedy. Back in 1973, Kennedy sister Eunice Kennedy Shriver Kennedy spoke about corruption at a college graduation ceremony. She had her own moral standing because of her commitment to public service exemplified by founding the Special Olympics. She had a genuine commitment to the most vulnerable in society.
this is what she told the college students that day:
"These are most bitter days, and yet, as our leaders stand revealed, we see not evil men but shallow and pathetic men. The final charge against these men, I think, will not be their shabby deals, their frantic cover-ups. No, it will be simply that having been given extraordinary power and opportunity to make life better in this nation and the world, they scarcely tried.... Their message was grab what you can and run. Let them run now, and let us see if we can make something grow in the desert they have left behind. ---Eunice Kennedy Shriver, 1973"
I am sorry to say that the bitter days are the city during the Kilpatrick administration. The scale of corruption was breathtaking.
We cannot turn away and ignore corruption. Time for former mayor and accomplices to be held accountable for crimes. Assess responsibility for shameful events that transpired in the city. We have given you the tools. We took great case to select you as jurors. Make no mistake this is a case that can be decided. That should be decided. All of us in this room know beyond a reasonable doubt that you are the people to decide it.
We hand this case to you.
Wow. An incredibly powerful conclusion.
10:51AM Sidebar.
Judge says she has 2 additional substantive instructions. She is reading.
Supplemental instruction regarding count 1. To clarify, as I instructed previously, government must prove that defendant or one or more of conspirators engaged in pattern of racketeering activity. Most include at least 2 of the listed crimes.
Now wants to clarify that the verdict must be unanimous as to which types of racketeering activity were committed. must be unanimous with respect to 2 underlying acts.
Clarification of numbering of exhibits that has to be read into evidence. Judge reads through the revisions. Reads about government exhibits that are withdrawn. Defense exhibits that are admitted.
Also reads corrections to the trial transcript.
Judge turns to page 66 of jury instructions. Instructions on deliberations. First, must select a fore person.
Once they start deliberating, cannot talk to anyone but most communicate by writing and judge will respond as quickly as possible. Might have to confer with counsel.
They can't write down if they are split. That needs to stay secret until they are finished.
Can only make decision based on what they have seen and heard in court, Can't conduct individual investigation. Ads in consulting dictionaries or internet to get more information. Make decision only on evidence seen and heard in court.
Verdict, guilty or not guilty, most be unanimous. To find guilty, government must have convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. Not guilty, government failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
Talk to each other and listen respectfully. Try best to work out differences. Don't hesitate to change your mind but don't do so just to get case over with.
Own vote is your own vote. No one can hear discussions in jury room and no record will be kept. So speak freely.
If you elected to take notes, they should be used only as memory aides. Rely on recollection of evidence and don't be influenced by notes of other jurors. All most form own opinions as to the facts.
If you decide the government has proved one or more of defendants guilty, I will decide the punishment.
I have prepared a verdict form to record the verdict. It's fairly long. Judge reads it out.
Lists all the counts, the names of defendants involved and guilty or not guilty.
If you feel government has proved beyond a reasonable, say so by marking the appropriate place on the form and handing it to fore person.
Let me finish up by repeating something I said earlier.
you decide for yourselves if the government has proved defendants guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
11:15AM Now this is a sad moment. Judge sounds teary. I need to dismiss the alternate jurors. These people who sat here for months and won't get to deliberate. It's truly a gift you have given the community. Not words to thank you enough for your conscientious service.
Jurors have asked to have lunch together. Can't discuss case during lunch. Deliberations can't start until after lunch. They have also asked for formal deliberations to not start until Tuesday morning. Can use time this afternoon to review notes.
Want to say also for purpose of the press. It happens that sometimes an alternate is called on to replace sitting juror during deliberations. You are excused from court but not excused from case. Media may not speak to them about questions regarding the case.
Judge swearing in court officers.
Four alternates should still not read or listen to anything relating to case because they may still be called back.
Court officers sworn in so they can now respond to questions.
11:19AM Adjourned for the day. Thank you very much.
Starting Tuesday deliberating from 9AM until 4:30PM.
Judge thanking counsel for hard work, courtesy to each other and her. It's been a pleasure to work with you.
Many lawyers respond "Likewise."
Monitors turn off.
And is it for the trial. Formal jury deliberations begin next Tuesday. Now we await a verdict.
About the author
Alexandra Harland is a Princeton undergrad and has a masters degree in International affairs with Columbia. A Montreal native, she worked with the Daily Telegraph newspaper for a few years before transitioning to TV, when she worked at ABC News with Peter Jennings. Alexandra has also worked in newsrooms in both Detroit and Boston.
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In a way, I think he's right. There's so much more to a new year than just making New Year's resolutions to lose weight and get more exercise, earn more money or even to be nicer to others.
There's something about getting to start a new year that brings us an inner hope that maybe this time we will get it right, that maybe this year we will become more the kind of person we imagine we are on our best days.
It's not that I'm against making New Year's resolutions. I've made them for years and kept them for years, or rather weeks and days. But now I'm thinking I may have been making too many of the wrong resolutions all this time.
The other day I read an article by David Mielach, a staff writer for Business News Daily, about the 13 New Year's resolutions which everyone should make. They were the kind of resolutions he felt were worth keeping regardless of the month or season of the year.
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Of those 13 resolutions, I figure I need some serious help with at least several of them.
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The HR never had 'color' and (only the core attributes were not deprecated in HTML 4.01) I don't have IE7 on this machine but I'd be surprised if it didn't show a default
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I've never come across this problem. It may be that there is something else in the code that is causing the
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Well there's something funny going on, because it's showing up absolutely fine on browsershots, so I don't know why you're not getting it on your own computer...
HR works just fine in all versions of IE...but there is a bigger problem...I seriously hope that site is a joke and not actually trying to teach HTML/CSS....that must be a joke...Poorly coded HTML pages trying to teach HTML...does not speak well for the author...sorry if it offends but yeah quite bad.
No, Logic-Earth, it's not a joke, but you can laugh if you like.It's actually an exercise for me as I try to recover from a small problem. It helps exercise the brain.It has not been presented to the public (and probably never will be) except on this occasion to try to get an explanation of one of the many things I don't understand.
Personally, I'd avoid trying to style an
. It's handy for semantics, but not really a very pretty element at the best of times. So I'd set it to display: none, and instead use a bottom or top border on one of your block elements. That tends to look a lot nicer and is more reliable.
Which is exactly what I do with them...
The question itself here is flawed -- since even in HTML 4 you have ZERO business saying the color of something in the markup -- that's CSS' job! Problem is no two browsers accept color the same for it, which is why it got to be habit to say color, background-color and border-color all the same to get them to behave.
Though that's a lot of what led people like Ralph and I to set them to display:none and style some other existing element instead... leaving the HR in place for it's semantic purpose of indicating a change in topic without a numbered heading... like say before the page footer. (since it's unlikely the content of the footer is a subsection of the numbered heading tag preceding it).
NONE of the presentational attributes -- size, align, color, bgcolor -- have ANY business being used in markup written after around 2001 (about when we kicked nyetscape 4 to the curb) -- and by the specification should really have stopped using in 1998. It's funny to think back and realize this is exactly WHY IE 5 and 6 became 'the only browsers that mattered' from '98 to around 2003... after all they literally were the most standards compliant browsers of their time!
Though of course one is still writing tranny the above is gibberish -- nothing like being in transition from 1997 to 1998 and failing to grasp the entire point of HTML, the entire point of CSS, and such wonderful and practical concepts as separation of presentation from content, minimalist markup, etc etc... Not exactly a shocker though since this thread starts out as if it's a HTML 5 'change' (it isn't) -- the presence of 15 year out of date markup techniques is hardly a surprise. After all, that seems to be who HTML 5 was created for: the people who never really embraced or understood STRICT, semantic markup, or the dozen other modern coding techniques that result in clean efficiently coded easy to maintain, fully accessible sites.
The hr shows fine in IE7.
There is a problem in applying css to it as mozilla uses background colour to colour the hr and IE uses foreground colour which means it's best to use both to be sure of the right result. Also note that in IE there is no way to collapse the default margins on the hr which makes it unreliable if pixel precision is required.
... and don't forget border color for versions of KHTML from before Apple got their grubby little mits on it and renamed it webkit.
That's a joke, that would be like supporting netscape 4 at this point.
But it is what I meant by "which is why it got to be habit to say color, background-color and border-color all the same to get them to behave."
Thanks to all for the feedback.I accept all the admonitions, and the fact that my website is crap- but it's MY crap, and written for my benefit.I don't want or need an appraisal, I just want to know why this snippet:
This is some text

And some more
doesn't show up on IE (on my computer, on an otherwise blank page).Can anybody explain (in simple terms) why this is so, when it shows as a normal line in Firefox?
The problem is that the code above will render fine in IE (or as well as can be expected as already mentioned) so there must be something else going on that we can't see. The page you linked to also seems to display the hr in IE7 also.
Can you provide a screenshot showing the missing hr and perhaps that will give us a clue as to what's wrong? It's always hard to debug something when you can't actually see the problem yourself. IE7 has many bugs and the most likely culprit would be "haslayout" but we'd need to see an example of where the hr is missing to confirm.
Hi Paul, and thanks for the response.After some experimentation, I think I've found the culprit: Me.I was using entities to show the coding for the hr (among other things) and neglected to use an > entity. I've gotten away with this in the past, but apparently IE doesn't like it.When I made a test page with this fragment on it, I looked in IE and still had no line, even after refreshing the page. But after closing IE then going back in and re-refreshing it was there.
As Logic_Earth pointed out so clearly, there are many errors on the pages, and these will be addressed one by one. The site is "not open to the public"; it's only for my own benefit.Thanks again. :rolleyes:
Glad you got to the bottom of it at last
Don't let logic's comments put you off as we all have room for improvement and while its good to point out errors (otherwise we never learn) there is a polite way of saying so (and even then most authors will still feel slightly aggrieved). The important point is that you know you have work to do and to continue to improve.
Thanks again Paul; that was very encouraging. I'll keep on working and hopefully improve, in several ways.
Phil, the first Web site I created was based on a slew of handwritten notes I had made for myself about PC operation. I turned them into a "troubleshooting guide" as both an exercise in first-time Web design and in compiling info for helping me and whoever else wandered by with aspects of PC function. I never pretended to be a PC or computing expert, nor was I an expert at Web design. (I'm still not, in both instances.) As my knowledge and skills improved, both the content and the design/code of the site improved. Neither one hit expert level by any stretch, but it was a tremendous learning experience for me, and in later years I was pleased and humbled when people let me know that my site had helped them, too.
It doesn't matter if your site is perfect, or even particularly "good" at this point. It's the method you're using to teach yourself design and code. It serves its purpose. You have nothing to be ashamed of, and nothing to feel bad about. I know exactly what you're doing and why you're doing it, and you should feel proud of it.
Don't hesitate to keep coming in with questions about your site. I came to this very site years ago with the same situation, and similar questions. Some forum denizens get a bit snippy at times, but it's (usually) meant to give assistance and not mock or vilify the folks asking for help. (If it gets near that point, you can be sure it gets shut down!) One of the biggest points of pride for the SitePoint community is to be a community that welcomes "newbies" and novices. We're more than glad to help with whatever question you want answered.
I too applaud the effort, Phill.
Some take aways from this thread:
HR are difficult to style due to the fact that different browsers use different properties to achieve the "visuals" you see. However HRs do have SEMANTIC MEANING. You can use "display:none;" or "visibility:hidden" to hide the HR ( thus keeping the semantics) and the just style the TOP of the next element
TIP: if you write clean code, you can just do HR+ELEMENT {}
TIP: KILL THE TABLES ( for anything else but tabular data, and use ULs for navigation menus instead)
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I've been trying to put together a rather long list of coding tips to post here, so as to share what I've learned about coding for performance. I found it hard to put them all together and keep the post down to a few pages, so I've decided to post the tips over time. So, here goes my attempt at a first tip!
Separate your concepts – one operation per line. So instead of:
a[x] = b[x]*c[x]
do this:
temp1 = b[x]
temp2 = c[x]
temp3 = temp1 * temp2
a[x] = temp3
"Why?", you might ask. Well, this simple code breaks down into 2 loads, one multiple, and one store. Putting all of it on one line might save you space in your .cpp file, but in an inner loop you will want to expand it as I have done for better performance.
The performance for this code in an inner loop is gained by hinting to the compiler and the CPU what is going on and what depends on what. Putting all of the loads up front allows it to possibly stream the loads better, and the same with the stores at the end. The compiler can look at this code and have an easier time figuring out how to unroll it. At run-time, it is possible that other instructions could be put in-between some of the operations to use the time wasted waiting for operations to complete (out of order execution). So, if your loads take too long and if it knows that the operations are independent of each other, it might be possible for it to do something else while waiting.
Well, that is my first tip. We'll see how it goes as to whether I will do more programming tips or something else. I hope this helps.


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i'm from Salerno a nice city on the ocean near Naples.
I advise you to contact local private guide and private sdrivers here in Naples.
Prices are less expensivev and if you want to see the beauties of Amalfi coast you need to rent na car or maximum a minibus so they can enter and park in small villages such as Positano, Ravello....
I'm very fond of my area and last year I had a marvellous experience!!!.
some friends of my french friend asked me to accompany them in a tour guide (i speak Engkish and french fluently) along the Amalfi coast and Pompeii ruines.
they really enjoyed and even told me they had never had such a nice guide!!!!
So in case you need driver and guide for your stop to naples I'll be very happy to accompany you in the area.
I like meeting people, exchanging ideas and i also like people know my area, it is one of the most beautiful of Italy.
The city of Salerno has also got many attractions, the oldest medical school of medieval period is here, the magnificient cathedral in Norman style, the fantastic vieuw of both Amalfi coast and Cilento coast from the old Arechi Castle at the top of the hill , the narrow streets of the old city centre with artcraft shops,many nice churches of all periods,and at least but not last one of the longest walking by the sea in Italy.
From Salerno in less than 30 min you are in Pompei, Ercolano,Greek archeological site of Paestum,.In 35 min to Naples by train and in only 5 min by bus or by car you reach the first village of the Amalfi coast , the village of "Vietri sul mare", very well known for its famous artcrafts works: potteries.
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Ljubljana Castle
Dragon Bridge
alternative but relaxed atmosphere inevitable noise
alternative but relaxed atmosphere Was a bit noisy at night
design of building ck out with sheet and blanket
excellent staff who were smiling all the time, stylish rooms, good food, lots of options for visitors (coctail parties, BBQ parties, etc.) unreliable wireless internet, most of the time cold water in the shower room
Was a bit noisy at night
It is at about 15 min walk distance from the centre and very close to the bus/train station. Opaque curtains should be put in the windows so that sun light does not wake you up too early.
Easy to meet new people. The most unusual youth hostle I´ve ever been at. Nice and warm in the cell. Always hot water. Noisy late at night. Don´t stay here if you like to go to bed early.
alternative but relaxed atmosphere inevitable noise
The hostel has great facilities for its market - a very casual comfortable lounge, guest kitchen, fair breakfast, friendly staff, hot showers, quiet spots, great ambience - for 50 Euros a night for 2 it's a great place to stay. OK, I know ex-cells don't have air-conditioning, but it really was impossible to cool the cell down - even though it cooled down outside. We needed the fan on all night. You need to be able to get a through draught through the room.
The hostel was great! Fantastic designed and very clean (even the public bathrooms was cleaned each 2 hours). The enviroment of the hostel was... Very alternative. I'll recomend it Desing not always means "the most confortable", but it was good enough
Good location The cocktail bar downstairs the rooms is open til midnight or 1 AM (it depends of the week day), and is very difficult to sleep due the music.The bed in the "cell" rooms is located on an uncomfortable mezzanine. The breakfast is poor, at least for Italian mean of breakfast (no sweet foods or cakes are available).
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x <- c(1,2,3,4,5)
In R, running this script would result in the value 3. I would like to see the results of running the script in python. The code below are variations on using subprocess to access R from python, however, they do not show the result from R. Here is some of my trail code.
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paths = 'C: \\Program Files\\R\\R-2.15.2\\bin\\Rscript.exe --vanilla C :\\Users\\j\\Desktop\\testscript.R'
process = subprocess.Popen(paths, shell=True, stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=subprocess.STDOUT)
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import subprocess
Rfilepath = "--vanilla C:\\Users\\j\\Desktop\\testscript"
RScriptCmd = "C:\\Program Files\\R\\R-2.15.2\\bin\\RScript.exe"
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command = 'C:\\Program Files\\R\\R-2.15.2\\bin\\Rscript.exe --vanilla C:\\Users\\j\\Desktop\\testscript'
process = subprocess.Popen(command, stdout=open('C:\\Users\\j\\Desktop\\output.out', 'w')).wait()
A follow up to this would be to create x in python send it to R and run testscript containing one line "mean(x)", then view the output in python.


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The Prophet Adam (as), the first human being Allah created on Earth, and the last baby who will open his eyes to the world at the last days of this world…All the people that have appeared and will appear on Earth are different from one another. No individual is the same as the other. With His infinite might of creating, Our Lord created every human being with features peculiar to himself just like the fingerprints. This is a manifestation of our Lord's attribute of al-Sani.
Our Lord makes the DNA, the tiniest information bank of the world which is unseen even with the naked eye, instrumental in the formation of physical features. These miniscule banks harbour the "description" of every human being.
Where is DNA?
To locate the DNA, one needs a very powerful electron microscope which enables us to see the cells that make up the human body. When a cell is magnified 50 million times, one can reach the DNA. (For instance when a grain of sand is magnified 50 million times, it becomes the size of a huge mountain.)
DNA is located within the chromosome which is in the middle of a cell. Chromosome is made up of 46 very long and very thin fibrils. These fibrils are so tiny that it is difficult to see them even with the help of an electron microscope. One can imagine the thinness of a DNA fibril when it is considered that 5 million fibrils can fit in a pinhole.
DNA resembles a twisted ladder. It is a long molecule referred to as double-stranded.
What is a Gene?
Gene is a component of DNA. It is an "administrative" molecule that includes all the features that specify us such as our hair, eyebrows, eyes, skin colour, height etc. For this reason it has the attribute of "administrator." It specifies every happening related to our body and even to which diseases our body is prone.
What is Genome?
The genome is the entirety of an organism's hereditary information, the whole set of chromosomes.
What are the nucleotide bases?
Nucleotide bases are the chemical materials that make up the DNA. They are defined with the letters A, T, C, G which symbolize adenine, thymine, cytosine, guanine.
The structure of the DNA could only be discovered half a century ago. Scientists are still in an effort to find many genes responsible for physical attributes and try to understand subtle information about the DNA.
The information the DNA possesses and the processes carried out by it is a whole world in itself.
From the moment of birth until one's last breath, this unusually perfect structure carries out every function essential for the survival of a human being with no flaws or errors in the background, without that person ever being aware of them.
A human being is even unaware of the functions carried out by a structure that belongs to him. Furthermore, in order to have an idea of the organised functions of DNA, he engages in lengthy research by the help of laboratories and special technical equipment.
No doubt it is All Mighty Allah Who creates these chemical transactions that are even hard to understand for a human being.
The repair mechanisms in DNA and the superior details pertaining to these mechanisms
DNA have many duties. Apart from these duties there are complex systems within the DNA that work in an enormously perfect manner. One of them is the very powerful repair mechanism of DNA.
The repair mechanisms are very powerful because they can often replace or remove nucleotide bases. This system can be resembled to powerful work machines that displace a heavy structure and replace it with another one.
This equipped organized repair crew is also in need of additional support in order to ensure that their work is carried out properly and not destroy the whole genome in the process. That is where a giant support crew enters the equation. These are called regulators.
If DNA repair mechanisms are medics flying out to the damaged site, then the regulators would be the control tower that finds the sites, guides the planes, and tells them when to get to work and when to retreat.
DNA repair is carried out by a plethora of enzymatic activities that chemically modify DNA to repair DNA damage, including nucleases, helicases, polymerases, topoisomerases, recombinases, ligases, glycosylases, demethylases, kinases, and phosphateases. All these can be resembled to repair equipment. These enzymes are like machines that meet different needs such as a plane, automobile, power shovel, crane or a forklift. These repair tools must be precisely regulated, because each in its own right can wreak havoc on the integrity of DNA if misused or allowed to access DNA at the inappropriate time or place.
The DNA repair mechanisms themselves are fascinating with the intelligent plan they display. But what is more compelling is the regulation of the repair mechanisms. Regulatory mechanisms are always on duty for repair. However these repair mechanisms also need to be regulated, directed and supported. There are regulators in place to recruit the right repair mechanism, lead it to the damaged spot, activate the repair mechanism, and "coordinate the choice of the pathways to employ for efficient DNA repair. That is, the regulators are almost like a control tower or a central command system.
What is DDR?
These regulatory mechanisms which we resemble to a control tower or a central command system are called DDR.
When damage occurs in the DNA or when a signal reporting the copying of the DNA reaches, DDR specifies pathways to reach the destinations.
It works as a perfect programmer protecting the cell and restoring the threat to the organism. For instance double strand breaks have four different repair pathways. However, all of this is just the regulation of the DNA repair mechanism, not the actual repair itself.
Such precision, regulation, and coordination point towards a designed mechanism. We see regulatory processes in computer programming and in engineering when the programmer or engineer wants to ensure the integrity of a vital part of his system. Without these regulators, the whole system is corrupted.
DDR system is an indivisible entity of the DNA repair mechanism. They need to definitely co-exist. Claiming that these structures evolved gradually and independently from one another is enormously irrational. For the flawless existence of the DNA, it is essential for the same functions to take place simultaneously. The slightest error will hinder the intermediate processes that discharge vital duties.
Everything needs to work perfectly, flawlessly and in coordination; all these display our Lord's artistry, infinite flawless plan and might of creating.
It is impossible for a DNA;
- to form itself,
- to collect a huge amount of information by itself,
- to be wise enough to think that it needs to copy the information and secure them,
- to know that the damage has to be repaired flawlessly,
- to think that the repair team that perform the repair also needs repair, renovation and organisation,
- and to decide that pathways need to be supervised by a command system such as a control tower.
The perfect structure of our body, all our organs, cells, and the DNA that harbour an intact "description" of a human being is surely the work of our All Mighthy Creator.
It is obvious that a fake process such as evolution Darwin attributes to random mutations can not form an immaculate and extraordinary system that is far beyond human intelligence.
Our Lord, the Creator of everything in the world and in heavens, relates in Surah Yunus that even the tiniest particle is not far from Him as follows:
…. Not even the smallest speck eludes your Lord, either on earth or in heaven. Nor is there anything smaller than that, or larger, which is not in a Clear Book… (Surah Yunus,61)


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His team currently sits in eighth position in the Midland Alliance and picked up another good win last Saturday when beating fourth-placed Highgate United 1-0 at The Grove.
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Okay, I've been hovering around the site for a while and also read a statement or two about the wish to avoid a heavy back log of images and this seems perfectly reasonable. But having wandered the site I have noticed that there are quite a few pages that don't have pictures where it might be necessary.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kajika Not a huge problem, but we've got more written on him than Genno's giant bird and we still managed a picture of it.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Crescent_Moon_Kingdom We have pictures of most other places, even Kagerou village while it was being torched, can't we find one screenshot here?
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Land_of_the_Sea See above reasoning.
...I notice both my references were toward the trap master arc...Strange. Anyway, I know it sounds like I'm complaining about something I could probably fix myself, but the truth is that I don't know how to upload pictures and I don't know where to start looking for something that wouldn't be fan art or otherwise unnacceptable. Although I will do my best to rectify those problems here, there is still only so much one person can do and it's a big site. So please, if you find a page with no picture where one might be apropriate, please adjust it.