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The Archos 101 XS Review: Prettier, Faster, So Much Betterby Jason Inofuentes on 8/22/2012 12:15 PM EST
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Chaitanya - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkLike my previous comments about Lite-On and Plextor, Archos also seems to be exploring new technologies in order to sustain business. I am sure many of the previous archos users surely will miss the old video players when portable players meant either buying an iPod or other MP3 players which only played music and had tiny storage with grey scale displays. Reply
PubFiction - Friday, August 24, 2012 - linkYou forgot to mention that Archos and Rio pretty much invented the MP3 player that apple would copy. Thats kind how it works though, sadly they never had the advertising budget to both show off what they had before anyone else or to secure the supplies to put together the best hardware. Big companies like apple, MS and google just nab up the ideas of the real innovators and then get all the credit. Reply
tbutler - Friday, August 24, 2012 - linkNope, sorry. I had a Rio 500, a Nomad Jukebox, an Archos Jukebox, and a first-gen iPod, and this is dead wrong.
The Rio was cute, and the interface wasn't a handicap given the capacity, but the capacity was simply anemic - with the largest-capacity SmartMedia card, you could store maybe 2-3 albums' worth of music on it, and you had to explicitly switch between internal and card storage.. a real pain. So not terribly useful.
The Nomad Jukebox, which came out before the Archos and iPod, fixed the capacity issue... but the browsing interface was utterly atrocious, and the only way I found it usable was to build playlists on the computer and just run them from the Jukebox. It was also huge even at the time, larger and heavier than contemporary portable CD players, with a tiny and hard-to-read screen in the center.
The Archos Jukebox was at least browsable on the device, but all music had to be user-managed through a user-created folder structure; no way to use ID3 tags to browse, no shuffle play across folders, and playlists limited to .M3U files stored in the folder hierarchy. The hardware was better than the Nomad, but still chunky, heavy, difficult to pocket (the plastic endcaps were a problem, see the pic accompanying my review at the time - http://www.tidbits.com/resources/592/archos-jukebo... and trying to swap the batteries was a nightmare.
The iPod couldn't browse a user folder hierarchy, but in all other ways was immeasurably superior - easy and quick to ID3 browse with the scroll wheel, good display for the time, easily pocketable. No surprise why it ate everyone else's lunch. Reply
tbutler - Friday, August 24, 2012 - linkSigh, looks like the URL got messed up; try http://www.tidbits.com/resources/592/archos-jukebo... without the end parenthesis. Reply
Zak - Monday, August 27, 2012 - linkWasn't Creative Nomad before Archos and Rio? I had a small Nomad that used Smart Media memory cards. It was the coolest thing ever. And I'm pretty sure Archos and Rio came after. Reply
vishwa108 - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkIt is sad that fanboys like these are allowed to roam amok within the hallowed halls of Anandatech. Archos is not only a pretender to the throne of The Emperor of The New Clothes, it is The One who has, in recent memory, left a trail of unrequiteness and whose genetics has morphed into this state of hypnotism. Witness and learn what a minor chosen one could do as it scales the Peak of Choseness with nary a conscience other than mutterings of the variable tongue to its hapless and mesmerised victims. Reply
StormyParis - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkSay what ? Reply
Namey - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkI agree Reply
mattmc61 - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkI didn't think LSD was still around. Reply
N4g4rok - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkI post like that raising the issue of over-embellishing. Interesting. Reply
Squidward - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkIt's not polite to channel the spirit of Steve Jobs. Reply
rarson - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - link"Unrequiteness?" Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkI'm not a fanboy. I'm an enthusiast. And not an Archos enthusiast (I've never owned one of their products), I'm a technology enthusiast. All of your bloviations aside, the Archos team has done an excellent job with resources that are, most likely, an order of magnitude smaller than Samsung or ASUS.
This isn't the best tablet, and it isn't the worst. And that refrain is spoken about nearly every tablet that crosses our bench. Why aren't we awash with tablet reviews, despite nearly every CE OEM having a full stable of them? Because they mostly fall in the same category: middling. Archos merits more attention precisely because they've done as much, if not more, than their larger competitors. Reply
swaaye - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkThe Archos G9 tablet user reviews consist of stories of defects and misrepresentations. It's scary.
This new tablet is $400, just like the Samsungs and ASUSs. Hopefully the performance and quality is there for that. Reply
jjj - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkCherrypicking 2 non-GPU benchmarks where it gets stelar results?
You guys are just losing credibility and that's all you got to lose. Reply
geddarkstorm - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkSay what? I see Egypt HD, Egypt Classic, Taiji and Hover benchmarks there; all testing the GPU. Egypt HD is especially hard on GPUs. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. Reply
kyuu - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkI think he's referring to the Sunspider and Browsermark benchmarks, which for some reason he confusingly called "non-GPU benchmarks".
However, I'm not sure what other "non-GPU benchmarks" he's expecting to get covered, or what evidence he has that it scores poorly in other benchmarks. Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkBenchmarking is one of the most challenging aspects of working in the mobile space right now. We value those benchmarks that provide useful data, not just another number. Other sites have a strong affinity for benchmarks whose numbers fluctuate wildly and whose value is often limited by tests that have hit a theoretical cap (particularly Vsync caps). Some benchmarks provide a useful data point in the event that performance deviates from our expectations, but otherwise fall perfectly within our expectations.
The point is, if I had included all of the performance data that I collected, you would still be no more informed than you are now. Thanks for reading. Cheers.
Jason Reply
americorloliveira - Monday, August 27, 2012 - linkI think it's time to review the scores of the Asus Transformer Infinity because of my constantly give me around 1300 ms on SunSpider and gives over 160,000 in Browsermark, I dont know if it was a firmware update but the values are very different from those in your table. Maybe when you do a review of the Galaxy Note 10.1 also can review the Infinity.
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Spunjji - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkDid you read the article?
Thought not. Reply
rwei - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - link...wait, what? But iOS didn't exist yet, how could there be rumors of it being used on a tablet? Or do you just mean an Apple tablet in general? Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkFair enough, though, most likely, iOS did exist; we just didn't know about it yet. Reply
wsjudd - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkPedantic mode on:
The weights in the first table have varying units and spacing (or, for the first one, no units at all).
Weight 600 635g 580.6g 340 g Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkFixed. Thanks.
Jason Reply
vthl - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkit feels a little biased and intentional sometimes ..... certain devices always left out of the charts for no reason...... earlier it was macbook pro retina from the samsung Samsung Series 7 notebook in display comparison now nexus 7 etc has been from few comparison lists (but not all).... if you people haven't tested those products in any of the benchmark you are comparing with .... care to put a note in the chart itself (not tested) . Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkSo, a lot of this has to do with the fact that, though we have standard ways of running tests, we don't necessarily have a standard series of tests we perform on all devices. Some of that has to do with time or other resources, some of that has to do with value. Some tests are only pertinent if the value deviates in anyway from expectations. Take, for instance, Anand's recent analysis of IO performance in tablets. Previously, we wouldn't have though to check. As it became an issue, with SoC performance and software putting a higher load on IO, Anand took to analyzing the issue. Given the value focus of the Archos lines, I expect that IO performance won't be groundbreaking. And that might matter. So, I'll look into it, but that involves coordinating with Anand to ensure my testing methodology matches his.
And yes, we don't test every device. I'm going to reveal a secret to you all. We're not a large team, all sitting together in a technology playroom, testing devices from sun up till . . . well, sun up. For only a few of us is this our full-time job, and for the rest, we do our best to ensure that the most interesting things make it to the site. And sometimes, we never get chance to find out.
Feel free to let us know when you want to take a closer look at a particular comparison and we'll try and put it together for you. Thanks for reading.
Jason Reply
Wwhat - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkIs it me or does this several page article omit to name its sensors? A small spec list with such things might be appropriate with reviews (even if they are advertisement ones)
And while I'm posting: I also was surprised to see how light the nexus is compared to the other tablets, that makes a huge difference I think. Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkLightness is a big plus for one-handed operation of a tablet, and I think it's a component in the growing popularity of smaller tablets. A 1.3 lbs device is fine sitting on my couch, but if I'm standing in a subway car, or playing a game, my arm's can get a little weary. I'd much prefer a lighter device then.
As to your other comments, we take all our reader comments into account (even if they are unnecessarily snarky), so I'll try to do better. In this case, the only thing omitted from the usual set of radios is the light sensor. Reply
xaueious - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkI wouldn't be so quick to give Archos any credit for optimizing the browser performance. TI OMAP4 always had an edge in the Sunspider benchmarks, and the performance here is inline with those results. It was TI that did any of the work, not Archos. To be precise, the TI OMAP4 reference was optimized targeting the Galaxy Nexus to begin with, so there's nothing to see here.
The ASUS Transformer TF300 with Android 4.1.1 scores 1343.5 ms in the stock browser. Jellybean really changes the landscape of the browser benchmarks. I don't think ICS utilizes Tegra 3 fully. Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkThis is actually a story we've been trying to tell for sometime. While OEMs take the credit, silicon vendors are often doing the heavy lifting with software performance. As often as not, though, the optimizations that a TI or Qualcomm build into the Android versions shipped to OEMs are left out, in favor of aesthetically or function tweaked browsers, widgets and app drawers. So, while I agree TI merits a lot of the praise here, we like to encourage OEMs to follow Archos lead, so we'll give them some love, too. That said, Archos didn't just take a build and run it. The OEM sets the governor, and finalizes clock speeds, and also decides whether or not to use a particular silicon feature, and in which way. In this case, Archos made changes to the way that instructions are guided towards the low-power cores, GPU and CGPU; their goal being a boost to performance compared to a more conservative stock build.
And then there's Jelly Bean. As always, we test as quickly and as much as possible. The TF300 just got its Jelly Bean build this week, and the delta between its JB Sunspider score and the ICS one is massive. So, who's to say that the Archos JB build won't also break new ground? In which case, the TF300 with 4.1.1 serves mainly to demonstrate what's to come. But doesn't negate the performance of the OMAP 4470.
Thanks for the comments. Keep them coming.
Jason Reply
aryonoco - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkHi Jason,
Fine article, but there were a few grammatical errors in your piece that shouldn't have gone beyond your editor:
"the kind of codec support that many of todays popular tablets" should be "today's popular tablets".
"Archos has worked to tweak there Android" should be "their Android"
"does not extend to the stock player, only Archos own player" should either be "Archos' own player" or "Archos's own player" (depending on which style guide you follow).
Thanks Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkMissed a few others, yourself. I'll try and catch the rest before you do. Cheers.
Jason Reply
rarson - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkin the AnandTech comments section. Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkIf any of you guys are professional commenters let me know. :) Reply
Charbax - Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - linkArchos 101 XS with keyboard: $399
Asus Transformer Pad TF300 with keyboard: $529 (+33%)
Acer Iconia Tab A700 with keyboard: $599 (+50%)
Asus Transformer Prime with keyboard: $649 (+63%)
iPad3 with keyboard: $599 (+50%)
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 with keyboard: $599 (+50%)
Microsoft Surface with keyboard: $599 (likely) (+50%)
I think Archos likely will release a firmware to fix the power consumption for video and games. Also consider video games need to be fully optimized for SGX544 before they can perform as well as for example on Tegra3. This is likely happening faster than some would think, I think OMAP4470 is going to win Q4 2012 just as OMAP4430/4460 won Q4 2011 (Galaxy Nexus, Kindle Fire, Nook Tablet, Motorola Razr/Atrix2 etc..) I expect OMAP4470 is the platform in upcoming Galaxy Nexus Superior, Kindle Fire 2, likely also the next range of Motorola, LG and some other Samsung devices among other. The more devices means the better software optimizations Archos can automatically get for Android features also. OMAP4 pretty much is the reference design for ICS and JB, this is likely to continue even as Google "opens up" to all other SoCs and manufacturers with the PDK. Reply
voss,seal - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkI followed your "advice" on the previous Archos model. So I bought it, I'm in the process of returning my third Archos 101 - in a period of four months - because of touchscreen failures. I'd rather pay more for a functioning tablet. Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkI'm truly sorry you had a bad experience with the G9s. There's one thing that's much harder for us to report on than simply discussing our experiences with a given device: longterm durability. Build quality is a hurdle that Archos has to address, along with improving the turn around time for repairs or replacements.
I think one issue is that very few of these devices end up our daily drivers, even if the review samples stay with us for a while so that we can follow up on software updates. Part of that, is that many of us don't have a reason to have a daily driver tablet. Readers that have followed our iPad coverage probably recall that almost every review features a section bemoaning the extent to which the prior generation has remained in a drawer, unused. The tablet isn't yet an essential device. It's nice to have, and I enjoy using whatever I have on hand to watch videos and play the occasional game. But it's not part of my daily life.
In the meanwhile, I do apologize you've had as much trouble with failures. In the future, whether we recommended it to you or not, please let us know when a product you've bought has hit 'lemon' status. We appreciate the feed back.
Jason Reply
Charbax - Friday, August 24, 2012 - linkI don't know what kind of problem voss thinks he has had. I've been using Tablets nearly every single day since February 2005. Initially the 3.5" Archos PMA400 with Qtopia Linux apps and WiFi tethering then already. Then other and only Archos devices with few Chinese cheap tablets to test. Since September 2010, every day I use the Archos 70 Internet Tablet when I go outside, it fits my jacket pocket. I upgraded it to Archos 70b Internet Tablet in January and I've been testing a few ICS soon Jelly Bean $50 tablets from Shenzhen since April, of course all those are 7" or smaller so that I can bring them with me every time I go outside, use them every time I'm in a bus or train or airplane, the 7" Tablet is just so much better than a phone size as it fits 2x to 3x more screen surface area, better for web browsing, better for apps, games, video playback (catching up all recorded/downloaded TV to not have to watch TV only at home) etc. This Archos 101 XS I think may allow me to use 10.1" for the first time as a laptop replacement. I could have spent $830 on a Transformer Prime with keyboard and Fry's Taxes in Las Vegas 8 months ago, but I did not want to pay that much, I thought it totally ridiculous to pay that much for an ARM Powered Laptop, those aren't supposed to cost nearly as much as an Ultrabook. I even think $400 for Archos 101 XS is still expensive, but when you compare with the competition, it's 33% to 63% cheaper. Sure enough, at $299 with keyboard I think the Archos 101 XS should be a huge fenomenon and everyone considering a 10" tablet or netbook/ultrabook should then consider it. Especially if/when Android gets optimized for Laptop/Desktop use, with some new "Desktop Mode" in Android, perhaps Google should just release such a Home Replacement that re-arranges things a bit optimized for Laptop Productivity, re-optimizing Chrome on Android just a bit so it's exactly like Chrome on any Laptop/Desktop, and also an app like Ubuntu on Android would be awesome for productivity. I'm waiting to see if Archos and TI can fix the governors to make sure battery life on its 6000mAh battery really is above 10 hours. And I'm looking forward to see if I can use Archos 101 XS to replace my $1000 Toshiba z830 ultrabook for most of my on-the-move Laptop productivity usage. Reply
tbutler - Friday, August 24, 2012 - linkI'm also concerned about build quality; the one other review I've seen on the 101 XS so far (the Verge one) cited significant issues there, especially with the screen. From the description, it sounded like they didn't use enough protection for the LCD panel, so you get typical LCD-pressure distortions when you put pressure on the screen from the front *or* back. Doesn't sound too encouraging to me. Reply
Spunjji - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkIf OMAP4 is the reference for JB, why was the first JB device based on Tegra 3?
The likelihood of a Q4 "win" for it looks unlikely given the probable arrival of at least one A15-based device by then, alongside proper SnapDragon S4 quad-core devices. Reply
scavio - Friday, August 24, 2012 - linkBoth the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 got Jellybean at essentially the same time, the Nexus 7 just happened to launch with it. Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - linkThe question isn't whether it undercuts the price of having a keyboard, it's the value of that total package. I think many would argue that the TF300 with keyboard is a better value because the TF300 is an overall better package, AND the keyboard has massive supplemental battery. The other comparisons creep a little too close to what one could be paying for a fair Ultrabook. Those then become a choice between sacrificing performance for portability or paying more for a better notebook-style device. So, yes, we should have perhaps spent more time discussing the value add that a bundled keyboard brings, we're just not sure how much the keyboard will add to the experience. If you read the other reviews out there, opinions on the keyboard are pretty scattered. Some hated it. Others loved it. I didn't mind it.
As for the prospects of a big Q4 for OMAP 4470? We don't like to speculate on what SoC will find a home in rumored devices, but let's consider that TI's place in the release cycle is last. NVIDIA has set a very fast tempo, though they've had two generations of A9 SoCs. Qualcomm is equally fast, and have already premiered their A15-class SoC, and working towards releasing their second iteration. Samsung is preparing Exynos 5 for an early '13 release, and have rolled out Exynos 4 Quad to sate us until then. And TI will have OMAP 5 in early '13, but has OMAP 4470, an SoC we reported on a year ago, to fill the gap.
There's nothing wrong with OMAP 4470, indeed it should give us a good picture of what OMAP 5 should look like. The inclusion of the CGPU and the focus on 'smart multicore' versus simply squeezing more A9 cores into the device is something that might win it more design wins in the mid-range space. Though SoCs only add a small amount to bill of materials, there's likely a premium, based on availability, in putting a quad-core SoC in your device versus a dual-core SoC. We do know that OMAP 4470 will see a lot of play in the Windows RT space. And in talking with TI they seem excited about this Fall, so perhaps you're right; perhaps we will see some TI-driven Nexus devices, and a myriad of other brands. I just don't think they'll be in the highest end devices. Reply
yyrkoon - Monday, August 27, 2012 - linkTI is great to work with in the embedded field. Their hardware is not bad, and they do a lot of the development grunt-work for would be designers. Offer great, and sometimes free software tools . . . Plus they contribute a lot in some areas to the OSS community. For their products of course.
So yeah I have to think TI based parts are going to be seeing a lot of play in future embedded applications. This makes me excited too. Since I really enjoy working with TI hardware. Reply
Malphas - Saturday, August 25, 2012 - linkOr are they just jumping on the bandwagon? I owned a G8 tablet and it was completely solid, as well as dirt cheap and running a stock ROM with no bloatware refreshingly. It would be more enlightening to hear what percentage of G9 users - and Archos users in general - are satisfied/unsatisfied with their devices rather than just people badmouthing them on forums based on reviews but no actual experience with the product. Reply


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Intel Haswell Architecture Disclosure: Live Blogby Anand Lal Shimpi on 9/11/2012 1:27 PM EST
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fic2 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkAll the comments and images from 2:09 on are doubled, some even tripled (Firefox 15.01).
I would also have to say the auto-update is annoying as hell. Since it keeps moving the part I was reading around and I would have to find it again.
Nice notes though. Reply
fic2 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkNow it seems to be back to single comments. Strange. Reply
Boogaloo - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkGot doubled comments in the latest chrome too, but refreshing fixes it. Comments that came in after refreshing were doubled again though. Reply
driscoll42 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkPerhaps it might be better if the auto-update added new posts to the bottom, so you scrolled through time chronologically as you went down? You wouldn't lose your place and it'd make a bit more sense to read. Reply
shiznit - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkwhat happened to the embedded memory? Reply
tipoo - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkThat had excited me too, too bad. Reply
Samus - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkthe changes in microarchitecture have gotten less radical lately...i'm not saying we need another netburst, but this isn't all that different from sandy bridge with the exception of the GPU-related aspect and manufacturing process. Reply
MrSpadge - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - link... wow, you guys must have been serious about some of these statements :D
(seriously, I guess the wifi was probably overloaded and you had to hit "send" repeatedly) Reply
fic2 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - link"Sidenote: it's always hilarious to see how many Intel OEMs and competitors end up in these tech insight sessions"
Intel has competitors? Did the conference take place in a time portal moving backwards? Reply
driscoll42 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkPretty sure by competitors they meant competitors of Intel OEMs. Reply
Mr Perfect - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkAMD and ARM come to mind. You don't have to be winning to be competing. Reply
ifrit39 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkAnand,
I find this new live blog feature interesting to say the least, but I don't think it fits into your site well. Allow me to elaborate.
Just yesterday I listened to your podcast episode 4, and I think you made a great point (that I believe you've said a ouple of times in the past) about the "cable tv-fication" of tech sites. I find it a little bit surprising that you're doing this live blog simply because you seemed passionate about this idea. Your point was essentially that so many tech websites are becoming more and more about publishing the latest rumors and snippets of information that stream out from various "sources" that get repeated over and over on other sites with no real substance.
I think that this live blog thing is headed in that exact direction: constant snippets of interesting new information, but no analysis and nothing of substance. You're doing your readers a disservice by delivering intel's keynotes to us with one-liners. I have no clue how the haswell being capable of 2x FMA ops per cycle per core will affect me as a user. I'd personally much prefer you post a short pipeline post, as you have in the past about the news summerized on the day of the event, then have a thorough analysis of the presentation be posted later on.
Despite this, I still want to thank you for everything you do for your readers! I still think AT has the highest standards of any tech site and that's why I keep coming back! Reply
cantcurecancer - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkThis is the bread and butter of anandtech though...The sensationalist tech sites didn't even cover this story because it's beyond the scope of those readers (and writers). But you know what, when the next line of tablets and notebooks and MBAs come out, they are going to reference this every single one of these articles like they always do. I see your point, we don't necessarily need a liveblog on something like this, but if Anandtech is able to get the information out faster, why not? Reply
Kevin G - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkIn fairness, this live blog is coming from a real source: Intel themselves and fits square into the news category and not rumor/speculation.
As for 2x FMA, right now only a small benefit as software would have to be recompiled as it uses some new instructions. Basically it allows for two sets of multiply then add functions to be carried out in parallel. The hardware does allow for things like two independent multiplies or two independent adds to be carried out in parallel now. Previously Sandybridge could perform an independent multiply and an independent add. There will be a bit of a benefit for unmodified code but difficult to quantify as optimized code for Sandybridge would avoid that situation. Reply
ifrit39 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkThanks for clarifying a bit on the fused-multiply-add thing. I understood at a basic level what the function is for but I was merely using it as an example rather than actually asking what it meant. It was to help illustrate. My point is that we need analysis of what was said at IDF, not one-liner regurgitation.
And I get that this is Intel we're talking about. I didn't mean to say that the information isn't reputable, just that its spewed back out at us without any effort on the part of AT.
I think most readers would rather wait a day or so to get the same information in a well organized presentable manner. Reply
Kevin G - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkA correction. It appears that Haswell cannot perform two independent floating point adds simultaneously. It can however perform two independent multiplies as well as two independent FMA.
The inability to perform two independent adds is rather puzzling. It wouldn't surprise me if this is one of the minor changes made when they migrate to 14 nm. Reply
name99 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - link2x FMA (and AVX/AVX2) are for high performance floating point. Think matrix multiplication (and everything that ultimately reduces to matrix multiplication, from eigenvalue problems to PDEs).
If you don't know how you need it, then you probably don't need it. That's OK --- enjoy the rest of the chip. No-one will use aggressively every feature that is on it. Reply
1008anan - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkifrit39,
We strongly disagree. There was a lot of substance in what Anand was able to summarize. A lot of new substantive news that I didn't know before.
"2* FMA ops per cycle per core is huge. It, combined with other information means that Haswell will be more than two times as fast as Ivy Bridge for a specific watt TDP. Reply
dishayu - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkyou DO realize that he's posting this directly from IDF hall, right?
You want him to post realtime analysis? Anand has always posted in depth analysis articles after IDF (He did it for Sandy and Ivy as well), but you need to have some patience for that, perhaps? It's rather unrealistic to expect him to do analysis articles on the fly while attending the conference TBH. Reply
JKflipflop98 - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkI really like the liveblog thing. Pretty sure there will be a "real" article with all the info summed up later as is tradition. Like everyone else is saying, if it helps the man get the info out faster, then I'm good with it too. Reply
MadMan007 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkPlease make this thing update the page with newer 'posts' at the bottom rather than the top, or at least give us an option to sort posts. Viewing this now it's newest to oldest timestamp which is a very annoying way to read it. I get that while it's actually 'live' you want the newest addition at the top, but the option to sort additions makes it more usable after the event is over too. Reply
dwade123 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkI guess Steve Job's dream of using Intel CPU in iPad will soon come true. Reply
Mr Perfect - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkThe Haswell Modularity slide mentions two and four core chips. Apparently six core isn't worth it? Surely this doesn't include socket 2011(or it's replacement) and server lines? Reply
Kevin G - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkSix core for the desktop likely isn't worth it as desktop applications rarely scale past 4 threads capable of loading the system. With Hyperthreading, desktop chips can run 8.
Server parts are another story but Intel explicitly avoided discussing server variants. They have yet to launch Ivy Bridge-EP and Ivy Bridge-EX (with the EX getting a new socket). I'd expect 10 and 12 core products for the Ivy Bridge EP and EX respectively. For Haswell EP and EX, I'd guess that the core count will likely be 12 and 16. Reply
Freddo - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkI hope Haswell is power efficient enough to give us fanless ultrabooks. Reply
peterfares - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkThis. I hate fan noise in laptops. I want a transformer style tablet with zero motors. All that is left is the fan. I had a Samsung Series 7 Slate for a week and the fan noise was incredibly annoying because with a fan that small it has to spin pretty fast. Reply
tiki037 - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkMaybe I missed it, but I haven't seen any mention of the support chipset for Haswell. I would like to know if this year's crop of Z77 motherboards are likely to be able to support Haswell chips when they come out next year. Reply
Homeles - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkHaswell is on an entirely new socket. Also, the voltage regulation differences are going to require a new chipset. Reply
Pheesh - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkit would be a different socket and chipset, so Z77 would not work Reply
secretmanofagent - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkAs an iPhone user, I say: Go the to the Haswell session tomorrow if you have to choose. Your insights to the CPU architecture are top-shelf, and I'd love to know your thoughts on Haswell further. Reply
dishayu - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkBesides, if we're honest, we know mostly all that is to know about iPhone 5 anyways. Not so much about Haswell. Reply
melgross - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkWe don't know much of anything about the SoC. we're seeing rumors about a 32nm A5, 32nm A5x, and now, a 32nm A6.
Now that it's 12:45 pm, Wednesday, we'll know shortly. Reply
softdrinkviking - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkseems like haswell is more of an enhanced version of IVB/SNB rather than the major change that intel claims. that would take redesigning rather than adding features and increased provisioning. Reply
1008anan - Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - linkWill the 10 watts TDP Haswell SoCs have:
--2 CPU Cores per CPU SoC
--2 CPU threads per Core or a total of 4 CPU threads per CPU SoC
--8 double precision FMAs and 16 double precision FMAs per thread, or a total of 32 double precision FMAs and 64 double precision FMAs per CPU SoC
--At a 1 Gigahertz clock would this mean a theoretical maximum of 32 Gigahertz double precision and 64 Gigahertz single precision excluding embedded graphics per CPU SoC.
Or will the 10 watt TDP Haswell SoC not have 16 double precision FMAs and 32 single precision FMAs per cycle per core?
In other words will the ultra low voltage Haswell CPU cores have 32 single precision flops per clock and 16 double precision flops per clock? Or are the ultra-low voltage Haswell CPU cores different from the 35 watt TDP or desktop Haswell CPU cores?
Another question I have is what will be the lowest TDP Haswell CPU skew that has 4 CPU cores, 8 CPU threads. For ivy bridge it is the 35 watt TDP mobile i7.
Too bad Intel doesn't seem to be sharing much about Haswell Xeon parts. :-( Reply
lmcd - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkIs this equivalent to the dual-integer design of Bulldozer architecture? I know that earlier hyperthreading is not equivalent but does that put one Haswell core equivalent to one Bulldozer module? Not in terms of speed/power but in terms of resources. Reply
jeroompje - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkHow many Intel sata-3 ports will Haswell make available?
Jerome. Reply
Lucian Armasu - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkHaswell only has support for OpenGL 4.0? Well that's very disappointing. Reply
jadedcorliss - Monday, September 17, 2012 - linkConsidering that they've updated the OpenGL version with patches in the past, I wouldn't be surprised if this means Haswell will fully support OpenGL 4.0 at launch, and that they'll be working on a patch to 4.2 or 4.3 around then. Reply
Cloakstar - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - linkPost to the bottom of the frame. Reverse the chronology. (Oldest -> Newest)
As already stated, if viewing live, the text presently moves as new posts are made.
Also, if viewing after the fact, the present format requires one to scroll to the bottom to start reading.
The only time the present format works is if one happens to catch the blog as it starts.
At the very least, store the blog line by line, so it is easy to reverse order after it is recorded. Reply
Arbie - Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - link
Will it run Crysis? Reply
markiz - Thursday, September 13, 2012 - link+1
And I mean ULV?
I'm not really interested in crysis, but dawn of war 2..
Jup, I'm a layman tech enthusiast. Reply
mikato - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - linkFrom all the comments and slides, it sounds to me like Intel is of course going for the really low power end of computing, really shooting for tablets and such now more than they have. Most of the presentation emphasized this, and they will be enabling this wider range of applications with one architecture.
In addition, it seemed like they are really shooting for high end computing. Doubling this, 20x that, half terabyte bandwidth. It sounds like they just added a ton of components. It was interesting to hear that they added an extra integer ALU - moving towards AMD's idea slightly there. I'm guess that all won't be happening in their mobile-aimed parts but for people that want to spend the money and cut some serious time of big computations in the high end, they could go for the supposed huge increase in performance. And the performance/watt will be increased here as well as a result of all the changes above.
It sounds like they are expanding at both ends of the spectrum. Makes sense. Reply


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DAKAR — The chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court says governments and civil society are showing increased commitment to fighting sexual crimes and other violence against women. ICC Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda spoke to reporters in the Senegalese capital, Dakar, at the opening of a five-day conference on women in the legal sector.
ICC Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda, who was in Dakar for a conference of the International Federation of Women in Legal Careers - an organization aimed at protecting the rights of women worldwide - said she is hearing communities speak more and more openly about sexual violence against women, and seeing an increased commitment by governments and civil society to tackling such crimes. She said it is all part of an evolution in how the world regards sexual violence.
"I do believe that states are getting more and more committed to addressing the sexual and gender crimes that take place," Bensouda said. "This is what we need to see, to ensure that we address these crimes, because unless we do that it will always be taken for granted that they should not be addressed."
The International Criminal Court, which marks its 10-year anniversary this week, has 15 cases on its docket.
Bensouda noted to delegates at the conference in Dakar that of these 15 cases, 11 concern sexual violence charges, one sign, she said, of how far international criminal law has evolved in giving sexual crimes the attention they warrant. In the 1990s rape was classed as an instrument of genocide. And the Special Court for Sierra Leone has called forced marriage a crime against humanity.
All 15 of the cases currently on the ICC's docket concern alleged crimes in Africa. Responding to a reporter's question of whether the ICC is unfairly "targeting" Africa, Bensouda called for a shift in focus from perpetrators to victims - who are also Africans.
"ICC is working with the victims of these crimes," she said. "We are also working for the victims of these crimes. They are African victims. And they deserve justice. And they deserve a voice. ICC's intervention in Africa is largely as a result of Africa coming towards the ICC and requesting the ICC to come and address these crimes. I think that we have to readjust our thinking and start thinking of the victims of these crimes. They deserve justice. They deserve peace. They can have both."
Addressing a legal case long hanging over Senegal - that of former Chadian leader Hissène Habré, who has lived in the country for decades - Bensouda said the ICC does not have jurisdiction over the case as the alleged crimes occurred before the court existed. But, she said, the court "stands ready to share experiences" with Senegal should it embark on investigating and prosecuting the case.
(To read original article, visit this Voice of America link [1])
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Do you have a favorite clay body? | June 12, 2012
Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:33 AM
I work with two bodies, one that I make and one that I buy. I use stoneware for most of my work, but every now and then I want porcelain for its wonderful qualities (despite its difficulties); I buy it.
Diana Pancioli
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 08:18 AM
Posted 17 June 2012 - 12:56 AM
It fires to cone 08 and must be soaked with water after firing.
It is a great hand building body and can also be thrown. I believe it comes from Montelupo, outside of Florence.
At home in the US. I make my own terra cotta, raku, and stoneware. I buy porcelain. I like the porcelain I got from Alligator clay in Baton Rouge for ^6
Posted 21 June 2012 - 11:20 AM
Since it seems these days that about 90% of people doing claywork use commercial bodies..... I'll constrain my answers to that aspect.
I use Sheffield Pottery Supply as my main supplier. They are in western Massachusetts ...and I am in southern New Hampshire. They have provided great product and service over the years.
From them, I utilize a couple of bodies.
One is their version of the so-called "Z" clay. But I rarely use it unaltered. Usually it has granite dust (from fines up to 1/4" chunks) added to it, as well as often some sand from the river that surrounds my property and occasionally some local red clay.
One of my FAVORITE clay bodies is their "Sheffield #42". This is one that I DO often use unaltered. It contains Lizella, is very dark iron-bearing, and is the closest thing (with one runner-up......see below) I have found in commercial clays available here in America to some iof the clays I use when I am working in Japan. This too often gets granite dust and sand.....but nev er local red clay. It is said to be oxidation only and recommended for cone 8. I fire it in the noborigama up to cone 11 and in reduction for smaller items. It is beautiful. Works well with charcoal youhen (ala' Bizen process).
The other "sort-of-like-Japanese-clay" clay body I use a little of is "Grogzilla" (LOVE the name!) available from Clay Planet on the west coast. No one on the east coast stocks it.... so the shipping costs me more than the clay when I order it. It is a bit similar to some of the Shigaraki/Iga clay. This too often gets the granite dust and sand added....and gets really "nasty" (in a nice way....... wabi-sabi stuff).
My work is a blend of about 50% thrown and 50% handbuilt. About 99.9999999% noborigama woodfired.....but some overglaze enamels in an electric kiln are added.
John Baymore
Adjunct Professor of Ceramics; New Hampshire Insitute of Art
Former Guest Professor, Wuxi Institute of Arts and Science, Yixing, China
Former President and Past President; Potters Council
Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:31 PM
Come on folks......... there clearly is an interest in this topic. Share your thoughts....don't just look.
John Baymore
Adjunct Professor of Ceramics; New Hampshire Insitute of Art
Former Guest Professor, Wuxi Institute of Arts and Science, Yixing, China
Former President and Past President; Potters Council
Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:07 PM
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:10 AM
For teaching workshops, I use more forgiving friendly Cone 6 porcelains or white clays ... whatever the local supplier has or Highwater Clay's P5 or Little Loafers.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:25 AM
Posted 27 September 2012 - 06:49 AM
Haven't found one clay body I like better than another, so if I had to pick it would be purge. Purge can be light or dark body depending on what has been made and available when I wonder into the Archie Bray Clay Biz where I purchase all my ceramic supplies. Going on a trip, even a golfing trip, with Google at my fingertips I look for Pottery & Supplies for a new adventure into the world of pottery in another state.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 10:15 PM
For my high school art classes I use M340 which is a white mid range body that fires to Cone 6. I buy 20 boxes at a time. This amount usually lasts a semester.
Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:53 PM
For baking dishes I like half and half from Laguna the smoother one as there are two.
I like various stonewares for salt work-
Posted 29 September 2012 - 03:30 PM
Posted 30 September 2012 - 08:31 AM
I am liking Limoges Porcelain while I am working in Vallauris, France. It throws beautifully.
Must be great to work with a famous French porcelain. How translucent is it? I hope you post pics.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 08:35 AM
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Posted 02 October 2012 - 12:00 AM
I did recently buy some Dakota White Stoneware from Clay Art Center in Tacoma that I am going to try soon.
Throwing down in Washington State
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1,012 jobs would have been created this year if every city of Santa Fe request for federal stimulus funds had been approved.
"Most states pulled together what amounted to massive statewide wish lists, raising hopes for municipal makeovers."—April 17 Associated Press article on the $787 billion federal stimulus
Here's how President Barack Obama's economic stimulus works in microcosm.
Santa Fe Transit Director Jon Bulthuis requested $4.8 million to buy new buses and transit center improvements. That spending supposedly would have created 52 jobs.
But Santa Fe Trails was only awarded $1.3 million. "We didn't get quite what we had asked for, but we're grateful for what we did get," Bulthuis says.
In all likelihood, that $1.3 million won't directly create any new local jobs—the bulk of it will purchase new natural gas powered buses. Nobody makes those anywhere near Santa Fe. "It's likely the successful bidder will be somewhere else," Bulthuis says.
Some of the money will go to improve bus stops and shelters, and Bulthuis says money will be available for local contractors.
How many guys does it take to spruce up a bus stop?
All together, the city applied for $81 million in stimulus funds for 26 projects, from new sewer lines to police uniforms.
So can we expect the stimulus to provide loads of new full-time jobs in Santa Fe this year? Not really.
Nearly twice as many Santa Feans work in retail as in construction, where the stimulus funds are targeted. This month, 130 people lost their jobs at Thornburg Mortgage—desk jockeys are unlikely to don hard hats.
Besides, the state and city are lagging when it comes to claiming the federal money. New Mexico is toward the bottom of the list in green-lighted projects, with only 21 percent of funding requests approved so far, according to propublica.org.
Other approved local projects include $781,600 for energy efficiency, including solar panels and new lighting at city buildings. (That's just 2 percent of the city's original $33 million energy efficiency request.)
The city also got $1.1 million to begin repaving a runway at the Santa Fe Municipal Airport, "used daily for parking numerous aircraft." (Original request: $1.5 million.)
Most other projects have yet to be OK'd.
The city asked for $500,000 to replace or fix up "seven old and dangerous bridges" downtown over the Santa Fe River. An $8 million regional high-speed broadband network—perhaps the most creative request—would supposedly create 250 jobs.
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The 26-year-old posted a hilarious childhood snapshot of herself on Twitter, clad in full-on pink attire, super-done-up blond hair, and a huge smile to boot, along with the caption, "#tbt There are so many things wrong with this."
#tbt there are so many things wrong with this 🙈 pic.twitter.com/SR49tEhY6F— Hilary Duff (@HilaryDuff) November 8, 2013
Despite what we say, we happen to think the photo is adorable, and we can't help but wonder if she's channeling her inner Honey Boo Boo!
Obviously the pic was snapped long before the TLC network star's pageant days, but when compared side by side, these two could really be sisters!
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Good luck! I wish you well on your journey! I joined weight watchers a few weeks ago and also joined a gym this week. I'm also needing to take control of my life and my weight again 🙂
Well done on what you've lost so far. I'd love to read about how you continue and help cheer you on. I'm trying to lead a healthier life and I'm sure it will encourage me.
When Jillian was still on biggest loser, I was a regular (obsessed), but Anyhoo, I would love to hear about your journey. I think support from your readers could serve as motivation for the good days and not-so-good days. You have my vote, blog away. Very brave of you. Good luck.
Oh, thanks for sharing and being so honest. We are all going through our own personal triumphs right now, so I wish you the BEST of luck with achieving your goal of being healthy!!!
I don't think you'll find any American woman who doesn't struggle with the same issues. I have just met my Weight Watchers goal and lifetime! Hooray! But I'm in 'maintain' phase and really its not too much different from 'lose' phase.
The thing is, once we reach a weight 'goal' the game is not over. This is life, its a journey, not a destination.
I personally love it when bloggers, especially big bloggers like yourself share something personal. You should be proud of yourself!
You are beautiful because you are you – I support your wish to be healthy & full of joy!
You can do it!
I have three words for you……GO…..FIGHT…..WIN!!!!!!!
I think it is great that you can share that with us- we all have something that we are working on.
I have been down that weight loss journey and would be happy to do the "happy" dance with you when the scale goes down, the inches lost get bigger and so do those clothes. I think it is great you are taking time to take care of yourself- you won't believe how good you feel and how it will start showing in everything you do. You go girl!!!!
I think it's a great idea to blog about it. I've also joined a competition, and am not sure if I'll win, but I sure am proud of the baby steps I've made toward my weight loss goals. I'm behind you! You can do it!
way to go Brooke! i would love to catch some of your motivation — you should totally blog about this! after i quit dancing, on came the weight and the desire to exercise went out the window, so i'm in the same boat and i would love to hear what you find is working/getting you going. good luck!
I would encourage you to read this book. It will change your life, I'm pretty sure.
I would love to read about it! It's what I love to blog about as well…Health/Fitness and some crafty stuff too! I have 4 children and gained 65- 70 pounds with each. I have worked my butt off to get to where I am now!! You can so do it! I'm just down the street from you in Mesquite, NV 🙂 I wish our community did some sort of contest like that. How cool!! Anyway, you can check out my blog and fitness story if you'd like, I'm so close to my ultimate goal! I can't wait to see you reach yours! You got this…really, you can!
You can do anything you set your mind too! And if you need an extra boost give me a call! You are amazing, good luck and I can't wait to hear you on the radio!!!
p.s I will so watch the kiddos if you need me too!
Hey good luck on your journey to a healthier body! You can do it! It's 99.9% mental so you need to find what works for you. Lately what I've been doing for inspiration is going on Pinterest and looking at before and after pics under the fitness category. It's amazing to see so many people lose weight, it's really inspiring!
Just finished reading The End of Overeating by David Kessler… double AWESOME book! Good luck in your challenge!
I think I can agree with everyone else and say, I would love to hear about your weight loss journey! Good luck with it. I struggled with weight for a long time and miraculously finally got to where I wanted to be and finally feel comfortable in my body and good about myself. I've found that in order to maintain my weight, it has to be a life style change. Not a change for 6 months, not a "diet", but a way of life. I also work out regularly and that definitely helps to maintain my weight, even with having had two children. Once I go to where I wanted to be, I decided I was NOT going back to my old weight. That has been my motivation to eat right and keep myself in check. Good luck, I know you CAN do it! 🙂
Way to go! I would love to hear more about your weight loss! I think you would be a great motivator for people who are trying to lose weight!
i looove the personal stuff. share it! we all want to hear it! and good luck with the competition! sounds awesome!
You are so wonderful!I have a girlfriend just like you. She struggles with weight gain partly for medical reasons and partly because she is an awesome cook (OMG, she is an executive chef in my eyes). I love that you are sharing your new goal with us and I wish you the best.
Best wishes on your journey!
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Absolutely you should blog about it! You will be an inspiration to a lot of people. Good luck! 🙂
My husband and I had an eye-opening conversation about physical fitness and fiscal fitness. I was extremely frugal (THRIFTY, even) but overweight, and he was extremely fit (SMOKIN' HOT, even) but had a mountain of debt. We have worked really hard over the last five years to be more balanced. I've lost 60 lbs and he's paid off $26,000 in debt. It helps me to think of calories as dollars. You wouldn't "spend" more money than you had to – why eat more than you have to? (Don't listen to the voice that screams, "Because it's tasty!!!") You want to maximize your "earned" calories by exercising. Etc. Etc.
Best of luck to you!
I have a sign on my fridge that has worked for 8 months, and helped me lose 40 lbs without exercising (have extreme arthritis). It says simply: Do not eat to soothe or reward yourself, you are NOT a dog. Works for me, but I am an emotional eater 🙂
yes, I would love to hear about this. I am not a large women, but since my wedding i have gained 20 lbs easy and sometimes we all need motivation and this is awsome.
I'm so glad you are going to be more OPEN, and that you're rededicating yourself to your SELF! You are worth it. As someone who shares your struggles, I get it. And here's one little word of advice: Exercise is great for your body's systems – they run more efficiently, and they get strong, but the only thing that's really going to help you lose weight is changing your eating habits. I recommend protein shakes. It's amazing how having a protein shake will keep me full between meals. It takes a lot for the body to metabolize protein, and while it's busy with that, it doesn't have the time or the inclination to hunt down cookies or candy (bad carbs are my worst downfall, and on any ordinary non-protein day – oatmeal for breakfast, for example – I would be on the hunt for something else within a couple of hours. One protein shake will hold me for at least three and a half). Then, once you've lost the weight, the exercise habit you've developed will help you to keep it off. Change of eating habits = weight loss. Exercise = weight maintenance. Best of luck! Many hugs!
Oh I think this is great! We all need encouragement and positive reinforcement! I'm sure you will inspire others and we can cheer you on along the way! You can do this!
Brooke, that's awesome. We'd love to cheer you on — so tell us about it. What woman hasn't struggled with weight. (ok — there are some but I try not to think about them) You go girl!!
i've been following your blog for a couple years, but i never ever comment. i hate it that people do that on my blog, but then i realize i do it to the bloggers that i follow. SHAME ON ME!
your post about weight really hits home for me. i haven't always struggled with my weight. i was always the skinny girl with a fast metabolism that could eat anything. i always wondered why it was so hard for others to lose weight, and thought to myself "why don't they just decide they want to lose weight MORE than they want to eat that donut?" then i gave birth to twins, and have done EVERYTHING to lose weight. i know there are other that are worse off then me, as i'm only about 30 lbs overweight. but i'm so tired of this low self-esteem, and having to wear maternity clothes or my husbands sweatpants.
i say blog about your weight-loss journey. you're only going to INSPIRE people! thanks for your honesty!
I would love to hear about your weight loss journey. It will also keep you motivated and we can rag on you if we haven't heard from you in a while. Weight loss is so freakin' hard. I have 6 more weeks before baby #3 gets here and then I am going to start molding my body into what I used to have before babies… you can do it, you have so much talent you can do this.
Go for it! But take a before photo! Even if you don't post it right now, pictures are worth a thousand words. I am blogging about my weight loss journey. Its great because it holds me accountable. I track/blog every calorie, every day. There is a lot I don't eat because I don't want people to know/read about. Come check it out http://www.myjourneytokim.blogspot.com No poking fun of me either. Read about the tips I use to tracking calories and getting the calorie counts for homemade meals. Best of luck! Its a lifetime journey.
#1 tip-get a great food scale! Check out which one I got on my blog.
Why not blog about it??? It might be another motivating factor . . . someone else you have to answer to 🙂 And I think you should take a before picture, even if you don't post it on your blog. Then you'll get to see just how far you've come! Great job on the 25 lbs! I have lots of yummy snack ideas if you want any. I'm the smallest I've ever been right now! But it takes a LOT of work. Every day. Don't worry, when I have another baby, I'll be doing it all over again!!!
I get so upset when people beat themselves up over their weight. I too need to lose weight and start exercising, ( I swim). I lost 60 lbs over a year. I did not once during that time weigh myself. As a matter of fact I threw our scale in the trash. I swam 4-5 days a week, 10 laps each time. And….I did not call it a diet. I ate whatever I wanted, but in small portions. (I did pig out on Ben and Jerry's, once in a while, the whole pint!yep)
Basically, I ate 1/2 of what I would normally have eaten. No diet drinks, either 1 regular soda a day or ice tea and water. One piece of See's candy. etc. I did try and to eat my main meal at 2-3 in the afternoon. And then salad, cereal or a yogurt and piece of fruit in the evening. I have gained back 30 lbs. I am not kicking myself, I just need to start over, and I have this week.
I wish you all the best on your weight lose program with your friends. Remember, exercise is essential. AND, when people, relatives ask you if you've lost weight, tell them, you don't know, you don't have a scale. It is nobodies business but yours. Do Not Be Ashamed Of Yourself! Take it 10 lbs at a time.
I really empathize with you and would love to hear about your weight loss journey. I am looking forward to picking up some good tips.
Thank you for sharing! I am right there with you and could benefit from hearing about your journey. Go get 'em!!
I think that is awesome Brooke! As long as you are doing something to change it you will always be happy!
I think that is awesome Brooke! As long as you are doing something to change it you will always be happy!
YES! I Love weight loss stories. Keep blogging your progress, I would love to read about it. I need some motivation myself…
Congrats on losing 25!
your blog, your projects, your ideas, your life, your successes…we're all here anyway so, please, share if YOU want to share.
we all have things about ourselves that we are not happy with… aren't you lucky yours is something you can change?
best of luck! i'm rooting for you!
good luck! you can do it!!
I'm reall glad you're sharing – it's great to hear about the woman behind the fantastic ideas!
Look forward to hearing about your progress
You should blog about this. Not only will it help you by having your followers motivate you, when you can't motivate yourself, it will help motivate your followers as well. I started blogging about my journey at the start of the year and it has been wonderful for me. If you want to read about my journey go to http://splendidfailurecrafts.blogspot.com/ and read about it. I update every wednesday for a weightloss wednesday segment of my blog. Keep up the good work. You are amazing.
I hope you know how beautiful you are!! Honestly, I have looked at your gorgeous self and seen your sparkly personality for the last seven months, and not once have I even thought of changing anything about your cute self. You are one of the most beautiful women I know, inside and out!! I love your guts!!
I would love any motivation I can get! I'm 5'4" with at least 30 pounds to lose. I feel like I'm a hamster on a wheel as far as weight loss goes. Thanks for being open!
I am super proud of you Brooke! Not only is sharing something so personal hard, but you have a HUGE audience. You are truly amazing at everything! You are powerful, beautiful, creative, and you can DO ANYTHING!!! Love you Lady!
I would love to hear about this weight lose journey. I too gain a lot of weight when I am pregnant and I am always picking other women's brains as to their weight loss solutions.
I hope you win the challenge!!!
Finding the time to exercise and eat right is SO HARD with kids! And baby weight is a killer! I'm so glad you're going to do this–for yourself. Keep us posted and good luck! I have a friend who did the same competition in St. George and he got awesome results!!
I so get it!!!words can not tell you how much I get what you are saying!!!you haven't failed until you stop trying!!
Brooke, you're awesome!
Thanks so much for sharing…I am in the same boat as you, except I can't seem to find the motivation to get going on the weight loss thing again! So I'd love to hear inspiration and follow you on your journey…maybe it will inspire me!
Good luck to you…I know you'll be great!
Congrats on your weight loss so far…it's hard to do. And it's cool that you're talking about it…for one thing, it sort of makes you more "accountable" when you have an audience following your progress, and for another, you'll inspire others to do the same.
Good luck to you!
This is great, Brooke! I would love to hear about your weight loss adventures. Good for you for being so honest about weight issues. That takes a lot of courage.
Wow, bravegirl, I'm impressed! This took some guts on your part.
Count me in on your cheering squad.
Now all I need is a good cheer.
go, Brooke, go! that's going to have to do. lol
Honestly, I would love to hear about your journey with this new project! Many of us struggle with weight and body image in our own ways and I find it helpful and motivating to hear about others going through a similar experience. I actually just joined Live Healthy Iowa with a team from my work! I totally slacked the first week, but yesterday I just decided to START OVER and get off my butt!
Good luck with everything!!
Hi Brooke, I want to encourage you to go for it…. but remember more than anything…. your husband (i'm sure) loves you and your body. It was that amazing body that delivered your beautiful children into the world. But more importantly, God loves you. He created you and called you very good. So do your best loose some weight, but DO NOT loose sight of what is important. God Bless you, He has so much already.
hi cuz, read Women, God and Food. We all struggle with this stuff. This book will change your life. At least it did for me. It's super interesting. Love you to death.
I'll bet when you get to where you want to be, you'll be so proud that you'll throw that before picture up! I just started exercising about 4 days ago…I took before photos, and as of now I can't imagine posting them.
Good luck!
I have lost over 30 pounds in the past 3 months by counting calories,no desserts or candy(sob) and walking for 1/2 hour daily.I love the book " The Abs Diet" it is what kickstarted my diet…there isn't any cravings,I stopped obsessing about food after a week and now it's to the point I have to remind myself to eat lol..Try it and good luck
I have lost over 30 pounds in the past 3 months by counting calories,no desserts or candy(sob) and walking for 1/2 hour daily.I love the book " The Abs Diet" it is what kickstarted my diet…there isn't any cravings,I stopped obsessing about food after a week and now it's to the point I have to remind myself to eat lol..Try it and good luck
I have lost over 30 pounds in the past 3 months by counting calories,no desserts or candy(sob) and walking for 1/2 hour daily.I love the book " The Abs Diet" it is what kickstarted my diet…there isn't any cravings,I stopped obsessing about food after a week and now it's to the point I have to remind myself to eat lol..Try it and good luck
I think you should DEFINITELY take a before picture – but don't post it on the internet unless you feel secure enough to do that. Have that before picture will give you an image of where you came from. When you reach your goal weight then take an after picture.
Keep them close (maybe underwear drawer) in case your weight starts going up again. The picture will be incentive enough for you to keep those pounds off and the after picture will get you to keep a healthy level of diet and exercise.
Good luck!
Kat Skull
I think you are beautiful! I always feel kind of frumpy next to you, always put together with a little bit of fun funky style. Good for you and your goals, but just know I've always admired your look:)
PS I've decided people who are super skinny just don't like food.
So proud of you girl. Seriously, it took some serious courage to push the publish button and I couldn't be more proud of you. And of course I want to hear about your journey. My story is the same I am the ultimate yo yo myself. I hate that about myself.
You are so brave sharing about your weight and your feelings about it!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you! You have made yourself more real and are a real inspiration to me.
In my weight-loss journey, I've found that the online food logs helped a lot in keeping track of my calorie intake and burning. It was a real eye-opener to see where my extra weight really came from.
I find that my "binges" start because I didn't eat properly earlier in the day (or even the day before), and aren't merely because I lack will-power. Don't beat yourself up over a "failure". Focus on enjoying a small indulgence each day, and remembering that indulgence when you feel like going for a second (while still limiting yourself to just that one indulgence.)
You CAN DO IT!
I would love to hear about your weight loss journey! I've lost 50 pounds (four sizes) since last February through Weight Watchers, Jillian Micheals exercise videos and running. I find others' stories to be very motivational. I encourage you to take a before photo just for you – to encourage you along your journey and to motivate you to stay at goal once you reach it. Just remember there will be blips along the way – sometimes you'll go up a little on the scale, but if you stick with it you will continue to trend down. Look at the big picture, and know you CAN do it. I'm proud of you for starting this journey!


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