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OCZ Z-Drive R4 CM88 (1.6TB PCIe SSD) Reviewby Anand Lal Shimpi on 9/27/2011 2:02 PM EST
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squashmeister99 - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkYou teased us with your video reviews. Now we cant go back... :-) Reply
G-Man - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI miss the video reviews already :-) Reply
vol7ron - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkhahaha. they are a good addition aren't they? Reply
Rasterman - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkComparing a single Vertex 3 240GB to a 1.6TB doesn't seem quite valid. Someone considering the R4 would be asking what is the performance difference between the R4 and 4 to 16 Vertex 3s in RAID 0. Especially considering the massive cost savings per GB using the Vertex 3s. Reply
MrBungle123 - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkI'd like to see some RAID 5/6/10 arrays of 15K RPM SCSI drives in the benchmarks too. Reply
marraco - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkNo. I don't want video reviews, unless they have English subtitles. Reply
SilthDraeth - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkI have trouble hearing and use subs for all my movies, yet Anand speaks quite clearly, and I have no trouble understanding him.
Also, he posts the video review in conjunction with the written review, and not as a stand alone feature, so you really don't need it subtitled. So you would still get to enjoy the reviews as you always have. Reply
Lonbjerg - Thursday, September 29, 2011 - linkYou can write english but not understand it when it's spoken? *shakes head* Reply
connor4312 - Thursday, September 29, 2011 - linkI'm guessing you never learned a second language? Reply
arthur449 - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkNot all information provided is specifically relevant to everyone's interests in a review of a product. Similarly, information provided in a video review follows a linear arbitrary organizational structure that cannot possibly align with everyone's preferred method of learning. Also, it's easier to skim / search / quote / share a text-based review. Reply
geddarkstorm - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - link^ This Reply
cervantesmx - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkI agree 100% Reply
GTRagnarok - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - link"We have a preproduction board that has a number of stability & compatibility OCZ tells us will be addressed..."
I think a word is missing here. Reply
icrf - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkAlso, you missed the protocol on the last link on the first page (the one to ssd bench) and it 404's now Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkFixed both! Thank you!
Take care,
Anand Reply
FATCamaro - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkOOH OOH Let me guess!!!
As in :
"We have a preproduction board that has a number of stability & compatibility OCZ tells us will NEVER be addressed..." Reply
vodkapls - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkIsn't it the fact that the revodrive 3 x2 use asynchronous memory that makes it so much slower than the r4 ? Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkGreat catch! I hadn't even thought of that but it's definitely a possibility :)
Take care,
Anand Reply
jebo - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI just can't take OCZ seriously from a reliability standpoint. I would love to know what the failure rate is like on OCZ's desktop offerings. I personally am in the process of my 3rd RMA of an OCZ SSD during the past 2 years.
I think Intel, Crucial (or, judging by the last review, Samsung) will make my next SSD. I can only rebuild windows and piece together backups so many times before I say enough is enough. Reply
dilidolo - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkWhat's the point to develop enterprise product if no enterprise is going to buy?
I don't think any enterprise will trust OCZ. Reply
josephjpeters - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkAnd why is that? Because of the supposed high failure rates? Can you supply any real information about this?
OCZ has less then 1% failure rate. There may be more then 1% of customers who have "issues" but they aren't related to the drive. User error plays a pretty big role, but of course it MUST be OCZ's fault right?
Enterprise customers are professionals who know how to install serious hardware like this. And if they don't? OCZ will help install it for them on site. That's what enterprise companies do!
Troff - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI don't believe that 1% number for a second. First of all, I read some return stats from a store that listed the RETURN rate at just below 3%. Secondly, I know of 5 very different systems with Vertex 3 drives in them. All 5 have recurring lockups/BSODs. The people who built and run these systems write their own filesystems. They are extremely knowledgeable. If they can't make them run properly, they are not fit to run outside of a lab environment.
That said, I suspect it's as much Sandforce that's the problem as it is OCZ. Reply
josephjpeters - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkI think it's an Intel problem. But NooOoOo... it can't be an Intel problem... Reply
geddarkstorm - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkFrom all the data I've been seeing, it seems to be a SATA III issue, and an issue with motherboards not being reading for such high volumes of data flow. Mechanical drives can get no where near SSD speeds, and I don't think manufacturers were really expecting how fast they'd go on SATA III (almost pegging it out at times, and it's brand new!). Reply
josephjpeters - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkExactly. It's not an OCZ issue, it's the motherboard. When will someone step in and take the blame? Reply
Beenthere - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkSSDs appear to be an on-the-job learning program for SSD manufacturers with all the issues that currently exist.
I do not however believe they are selling SSDs at low margins.
Enterprise won't use SSDs yet for the same reason informed consumers won't use them - they have serious reliability and compatibility issues. Unless you can afford lost data and a hosed PC, SSDs are not even an option at this point in time. Maybe in a couple more years they will sort out the problems that should have resolved long agao? Reply
dave1231 - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI wonder really how much a consumer SSD costs to produce. Saying that slim margins will force companies out of business if there's a big markup on a 128GB is not true. These same drives were $100s of dollars last year and probably still aren't good value today. Unless you're saying consumers are waiting for the .50c/GB drive. Reply
josephjpeters - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkIt's roughly 20% margins and the price of an SSD is directly related to the cost of Flash. Owning the controller IP is key in maintaining solid margins.
Enterprise drives will drive flash demand which will lead to economies of scale that result in cheaper Flash prices and consequently cheaper consumer SSD's. Reply
ChristophWeber - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkAnand wrote: "I've often heard that in the enterprise world SSDs just aren't used unless the data is on a live mechanical disk backup somewhere. Players in the enterprise space just don't seem to have the confidence in SSDs yet."
I use an SSD in an enterprise environment, a first gen Sandforce model from OWC. I do trust it with my main workload - database and web server in this case, but of course it is still backed up to mirrored hard drives nightly, just in case.
I'd have no qualms deploying a Z-Drive R4 in one of our HPC clusters, but it'd be an RM88 model with capacitors, and I'd still run the nightly rsync to a large RAID unit. Now if someone would finally signal they want to spend another $100k on a cluster, and I'll spec a nice SSD solution for primary storage. Reply
nytopcat98367 - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkis it bootable? can it b used 4 a desktop too? Reply
jdietz - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI looked up the prices for these on Google Shopping - $7 / GB.
These offer extreme performance, but probably only an enterprise server can ever benefit from this much performance. Enthusiast users of single-user machines should probably stick with RevoDrive X2 for around $2 / GB. Reply
NCM - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkAnand writes: "During periods of extremely high queuing the Z-Drive R4 is a few orders of magnitude faster than a single drive."
Umm, a bit hyperbolic! With "a few" meaning three or more, the R4 would need to be at least 1000 times faster. That's nowhere near the case. Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkCorrect. I've edited the text slightly, though even a single order of magnitude is huge, and we're looking at over 30x faster with the R4 CM88 (and over two orders of magnitude faster on the service times for the weekly stats update). Reply
Casper42 - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkWhere do you plan on testing it? (EU vs US)
Have you tried asking HP for an "IO Accelerator" ? (Its a Fusion card)
I worked with a customer a few weeks ago near me and they were testing 10 x 1.28TB Fusion IO cards in 2 different DB Server upgrade projects. 8 in a DL980 for one project and 2 in a DL580g7 for a separate project. Reply
Movieman420 - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI see all these posts taking all kinds of punishment, please try and remember that ANY company that uses SandForce has the SAME issues, but since Ocz is the largest they catch all the flack. If anything, SF needs to beef up validation testing first and foremost. Reply
josephjpeters - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkLike I said before, it's really more of a motherboard issue with the SATA ports then it is a SF/OCZ issue. They designed to spec... Reply
Yabbadooo - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI note that on the Windows Live Team blog they write that they are moving to flash based blob storage for their file systems.
Maybe they will use a few of these? That would definitely be a big vote of confidence, and the testimonials from that would be influential. Reply
Guspaz - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI have to wonder at the utility of these drives. They're not really PCIe drives, they're four or eight RAID-0 SAS drives and a SAS controller on a single PCB. They're still going to be bound by the limitations of RAID-0 and SAS. There are proper PCIe SSDs on the market (Fusion-io makes some), but considering the price-per-gig, these Z-Drives seem to offer little benefit other than saving space.
Why should I spend $11,200 on a 1600GB Z-Drive when I can spend about the same on eight OCZ Talos SAS drives and a SAS RAID controller, and get 3840GB of capacity? Or spend half as much on eight OCZ Vertex 3 drives and a SATA RAID controller, and get 1920GB of capacity?
I'm just trying to see the value proposition here. Even with enterprise-grade SSDs (like the Talos) and RAID controllers, the Z-Drive seems to cost twice as much per-gig than OCZ's own products. Reply
lorribot - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI'm with you on this.
What happens if a controller toasts itself wheres your data then?
I would rather have smaller hot swap units sitting behind a raid controller.
It is a shame OCZ couldn't supply such a setup for you to compare performance, or perhaps they know it would be comparable.
Yes it is a great bit of kit but f I can't raid it then it is of no more use to me than as a cache and RAM is better at that, and a lot cheaper, $11000 buys some big quantities of DDR3.
In the enterprise space security of data is king, speed is secondary. Losing data means a new job, slow data you just get moaned at. That is why SANs are so well used. Having all your storage in one basket that could fail easily is a big no, no and has been for many years. Reply
Guspaz - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkTo be fair, you can RAID it in software if required. You could RAID a bunch of USB sticks if you really wanted to. There are more than a few enterprise-grade SAN solutions out there that ultimately rely on Linux's software RAID, after all. Reply
lorribot - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkYou cant raid it in software but you could raid several of them if you have deep pockets.
The point is why buy a 1.6 or 3.2 TB SSD when you can buy 10 x 320 gb SSDs and (possibly) get better performance for less cost? Reply
bjacobson - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI think I've mentioned this before but can you load up a Windows 7 installation with 30 or so startup programs and compare the startup time difference between this and a harddrive?
A video of this would be be even impressive. Reply
ckryan - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkI've been going through some issues with a 2281 drive with Toggle nand. I'm basically writing 11TB a day to it and under these conditions I can't get too many hours in between crashes. I'm of the opinion that the latest FW has helped most out, but clearly my experience shows that the 2281, when perfected, will be unstoppable in certain workloads, but for now all SF users are going to have some problems. If the problems are predictable you can compensate, but if they're random, well SF controllers aren't the only things that have problem with randomness. I knew it was a possibility, and that normal users won't abuse their drives as much, but I have to wonder if OCZ can make an enterprise drive problem free, why can't they make consumer SF drives better? The SF problem is the OCZ problem... OWC doesn't have the same perception issues, but is using the same hardware (Mushkin,Patriot, etc). As much as I like OCZ, they've done some questionable things in the past, and not just swapping cheap flash in SF1200 drives. Hopefully they can overcome the problems they're having with Sandforce and their Arrowana stuff, release a problem free next gen Indilinx controller, and then call it a day. Oh yeah, quit using those stupid plastic chassis. Reply
jalexoid - Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - linkConsidering these devices are more likely to find themselves in a machine running something else than a desktop system, why not test them on another OS? Reply
sanguy - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkOCZ's standard line "It's only affecting 0.01% of the deployed units and we're working on a fix....." doesn't work in the enterprise market. Reply
josephjpeters - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkThese are PCIe. Most of the "issues" come from SATA drives because mobo makers are having issues with their SATA ports. Reply
p05esto - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkI'll admit, I'm now too lazy to even read....it's getting bad. I just want to push the "play" button while I sit back eating Cheetos and rubbing my tummy. Get into my tummy little Cheeto, get into my brain little ssd review,... same line of thinking really, whatever is easiest.
Great review though, seriously. Reply
alpha754293 - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkIf you want to really test it'and validate it's long term reliability, you pretty much need to do what enterprise customers do. Run the SSD, but always keep a backup of it somewhere, like you said.
That being said though, if you've got TWO backup copies of it, you can actually run a parity check on it (pseudo-checksum) and determine its error rate.
Also, you didn't run HDTach on it. Given that it's tied together with a Marvell SAS controller, NOT being able to run TRIM on it, I would presume, will give it performance issues in the long run.
To do the error checking, you'll probably have to put this thing in a Solaris system running ZFS so you can mimic the CERN test. And if you actually read/write continuously to it, at the same level in terms of the sheer volume of data, other SSD/NAND-specific issues might start to pop up like wear levelling, etc. I would probably just run the read/write cycle for an entire month, where it periodically deletes some data, rewrite new data, etc. At the end of the month, make the two mirror backups of it. And then run it again. Hopefully you'd be able to end up at some identical endpoint after PBs of read/write ops that you can run both the block level and volume level checksum on.
But as a swap drive, this would be BLAZINGLY fast. Reply
perrydoell - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkYou say "We have a preproduction board that has a number of stability & compatibility issues."
This is the enterprise space. Things MUST WORK RELIABLY. How can you even review unstable products? I expect better from Anandtech.
I cannot take OCZ seriously either. An unstable product is NOT for the enterprise. Also, check the negative reviews at NewEgg. Ouch. Reply
josephjpeters - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkWhere is the R4 listed on Newegg? Reply
caliche - Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - linkI am sure he is referring to the previous versions of the z-drive, which is all you can use as an indicator.
I am an enterprise customer. Dell R710s and two Z-Drive R2 M84 512GB models, one in each. I have had to RMA one of them once, and the other is on it's second RMA. They are super fast when they work, but three failures across two devices in less than a year is not production ready. We are using them in benchmarking servers running Red Hat Enterprise 5 for database stores, mostly read only to break other pieces of software talking to it. Very low writes.
But here is the thing. When they power on, one or more of the four RAID pieces is "gone". This is just the on board software on the SSD board itself, no OS, no I/O on it at all besides the power up RAID confidence check. Power on the server, works one day, next day the controller on the card says a piece is missing. That's not acceptable when you are trying to get things done.
In a perfect world, you have redundant and distributed everything with spare capacity and this is not a factor. But then you start looking at dealing with these failures and you start to ask yourself is your time better spent on screwing around with an RMA process and rebuilds or optimizing your environment? Reply
ypsylon - Thursday, September 29, 2011 - linkNobody in the right frame of mind using SSD in enterprise segment (not even interested in them as consumer drives, but that is not the issue here). SSDs are just as unreliable as normal HDDs with ridiculous price point. You can lose all of data much quicker than from normal HDD. RAID arrays built from standard HDDs are just as fast as 1 or 2 "uber" SSDs and cost fraction of a SSD setup (often even including cost of the RAID controller itself). Also nobody running large arrays in RAID0 (except maybe video processing). RAID0 is pretty much non-existent in serious storage applications. As a backup I much more prefer another HDD array than unreliable, impossible to test, super-duper expensive SSD.
You can't tests NAND reliability. That is the biggest problem of SSDs in business class environment. Because of that SSD will whiter and die in the next 5-10 years. SSDs are not good enough for industry, if you can't hold on to big storage market then no matter how good something is, it will die. Huge, corporate customers are key to stay alive is storage market. Reply
Zan Lynx - Thursday, September 29, 2011 - linkYou are so, so wrong.
Enterprises are loving SSDs and are buying piles of them.
SSDs are the best thing since sliced bread if you run a database server.
For one thing, the minimum latency of a PCIe SSD 4K read is almost 1,000 times less than a 4K read off a 15K SAS drive. The drive arrays don't even start to close the performance gap until well over 100 drives, and even then the drive array cannot match the minimum latency. It can only match the performance in parallel operations.
If you have a lot of operations that work at queue depth of 1, the SSD will win every time, no matter how large the disk array. Reply
leonzio666 - Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - linkBear in mind though, that enterprises (real heavy weights) probably preffer something like fusion-io io-drives which btw are the only ssd`s running in IBM driven blade servers. With speeds up to 3 Gb/s and over 320 k IOPS it`s not surprising they cost ca 20k $$ per unit :D So it`s not true that SSD`s in general are not good for the enterprise segment. Also, and this is hot - these ssd use SLC NAND... Reply
MCS7 - Thursday, September 29, 2011 - linkI remember Anand doing a VOODOO 2 card review (VIDEO) way way way back at the turn of the millenium! Oh boy..we are getting OLD....lol take care all Reply
Googer - Thursday, September 29, 2011 - linkStatistics for CPU usage would have been handy as some storage devices have greater demands for the CPU than others. Even between various HDD makes, CPU use varies. Reply
alpha754293 - Thursday, September 29, 2011 - linkWere you able to reproduce the SF-2xxxx BSOD issue with this? or is it limited to just the SF-2281? Reply


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- "Tonight the sky was utterly black. Perhaps there was no moon tonight—a lunar eclipse, a new moon. A new moon. I shivered, though I wasn't cold."
- ―Bella Swan[src]
New Moon is a young adult fantasy-romance novel by author Stephenie Meyer. It is Meyer's second novel in the
|New Moon
First edition cover of New Moon.
|Stephenie Meyer
|United States
|Young adult, Romance novel
|Little, Brown and Company
|Publication date
|September 6, 2006
|Media type
|Print (Hardcover, Paperback)
|608 (Paperback and Hardback)[1]
|Preceded by
|Followed by
Twilight series.[2] It was originally published in hardcover in 2006.
[hide]*1 Plot summary
Plot summaryEditEdit
In the beginning of the book, Bella Swan is upset because it is her birthday and it will make her older than the "permanently" 17 year old Edward Cullen. Much to her dismay, the Cullen family throws her a birthday party. She, then, receives a present from Alice and Edward, a CD with Bella's lullaby on it. At the birthday party, Bella gets a paper cut when opening a present and then Jasper attacks her which then leads to her being accidentally smashed into a mess of glass that cuts deeply into her arm, Carlisle gives her stitches, and they have an interesting conversation. Jasper does not harm Bella, as the rest of the Cullens hold him back. This reminds Edward of the danger he puts Bella in because of their relationship. Edward leaves the small town of Forks, attempting to keep Bella safe from a world of vampires. He does this by telling Bella he no longer loves her. As soon as he leaves, Bella enters a deep depression that lasts for months, becoming a zombie with no friends and no life. When her father threatens to send her to live with her mother, she seeks comfort with Jacob Black, an old family friend who clears the haze of Bella's pain.
Bella soon finds out that Jacob is a werewolf, a secret that had always been in his family's genetics but reveals itself only when vampires, the werewolves' natural enemies, are around. It is a secret he is forced to keep from Bella at first, but he eventually finds a way around it, making Bella guess what he is. As soon as Bella figures it out, Jacob reveals as much as he can without betraying his pack. Bella and Jacob begin to spend more and more time together.
Bella soon discovers that rushes of adrenaline in her system yield hallucinations of Edward's voice. Desperate to hear him, she purposely places herself in dangerous situations. She rides a motorcycle and even approaches strange men in Port Angeles. She wants to try cliff-jumping, a recreational activity, participated in by Jacob's friends, but Jacob tells her it is not safe by herself and cannot find time to take her, since he and the other werewolves are busy protecting the town against Victoria. However, Bella grows tired of waiting for Jacob. She jumps and gets caught in a riptide in the water. After a few minutes, Jacob rescues her and brings her to safety. When they return to Jacob's house, they learn that Charlie's friend, Harry Clearwater, has passed away because of a heart attack.
At the same time, Alice, Edward's vampire "sister" who has visions of the future, has a vision of Bella jumping. However, werewolves are invisible to her foresight, and she does not see Jacob rescuing Bella. Presuming Bella is dead, Alice rushes to Forks to check on Charlie, Bella's father, after his daughter's supposed death. When Alice gets there, she finds Bella is alive and well. But Rosalie, not knowing the truth, called Edward to tell him that Bella is dead. Edward wants to see if it is actually true by calling Bella's home. When Edward calls, Jacob picks it up and informs Edward, who is impersonating Carlisle Cullen, that Charlie is at the funeral, referring to Harry, but Edward draws the conclusion that it is Bella's funeral. Having lost the will to exist as immortal, Edward flees to Italy to see the Volturi (peace-keeping vampires who would be able to kill Edward if he broke the vampire laws) thus granting him leave of a world without Bella.
Bella and Alice eventually figure everything out and rush to Italy to stop Edward. Bella stops Edward from stepping into the sunlight by running with all her energy to save him, he is happy to see Bella and know she is alive. She states you didn't have to feel guilty or anything, I can let you go now. He states you'll never have to let go. The reason why Edward decided to reveal himself is because Aro refused to kill him at first so he tries to break the law by an act that would have revealed the existence of vampires and invoked the wrath of the Volturi. Instead, all three of them are brought before the Volturi for judgment. Aro, the most exuberant of the Volturi, was very curious about Bella and her power to block Edward's mind reading. So he set up tests for her, and finds out that neither he nor Jane can affect her. Aro is very excited about this and asks if she wants to join the Volturi when she is a vampire, but she refuses. The Volturi say that Bella must be killed because she knows too much about vampires and could be a threat to their secrecy. The three are free to leave on one condition: Bella must be turned into a vampire, and soon.
When they all return to Forks, Bella wakes up to see Edward and believes she had drowned or is dreaming and starts going into hysterics. Edward tells her what he was doing before he heard about her dying, but she still believes that he is a dream. He finally manages to make her believe he is real by kissing her. He also explains that he will never leave her again. She is happy to have him back, but he upsets her when he says that he won't damn her soul by turning her into a vampire. She then tells him that she is going to ask his family to vote on the matter. Everybody says yes to her being a vampire except Edward and Rosalie (who then says, "Let me explain, I don't mean that I have any aversion to you as a sister. It's just that... this is not the life I would have chosen for myself. I wish there had been someone there to vote no for me."). Edward takes Bella home, and tells Bella that he will turn her himself if she will marry him first.
The book ends with Bella being grounded for leaving Forks without permission. Because she hadn't gone to La Push in a while, Jacob thinks that Edward was keeping Bella away, so he drops off the motorcycles at her house, which makes Charlie furious. When Bella and Edward come back and find this out, Jacob confronts them. Bella explains that she didn't go to see him because she was grounded before, and Jacob (who thinks Edward plans to change Bella into a vampire) reminds Edward that if he or any of his family bites a human, their treaty with the werewolves will be broken. Jacob is shocked when Bella reacts angrily toward this revelation, and realizes that Bella wants to become a vampire. He leaves looking hurt and angry, and Bella gets the feeling that he now counts her among his enemies. The novel ends with Bella contemplating all the problems that she has: Victoria, Jacob's mistrust, the Volturi, and the threat of a war with the werewolves.
Cover and title significanceEditEdit
[2]The second edition book cover featuring the cast of the film adaption.Added by FingernailsStephenie Meyer has stated that the red and white ruffled tulip on the cover of New Moon has no significance to the story, as she had no part in choosing its design.[3] However, fans suggest theories like the "flower is drooping because Edward and Bella's love is failing," and "the white and red represents Bella adjusting to vampire life," while others suggest "the flower drop means that drop of blood in the beginning of New Moon that changed everything" and "like the falling petal of the flower, Bella is also falling into a deep depression."
The title refers to the darkest phase of the lunar cycle, indicating that New Moon is about the darkest period of Bella's life when she doesn't have true love. Stephenie Meyer has stated that it has absolutely nothing to do with werewolves.[3]
Awards and nominationsEditEdit
New Moon rose to the #1 position on the New York Times Bestseller List for Children's Chapter Books in its second week on the list, and remained in that spot for 11 weeks. It spent over 30 weeks in total on the list.
Film adaptationEditEdit
- Main article: New Moon (film)
On November 22, 2008, Summit Entertainment, the producers of the Twilight film, officially announced that they would move forward with the production of the second installment in the saga, New Moon.[4] This announcement came after the first film's early success at the box office. Stephenie Meyer stated that she is very happy to be able to continue working with Summit on the production of the saga. The majority of the original cast have signed on for the sequel, which will star Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, Taylor Lautner, and Ashley Greene. Chris Weitz is directing the film, replacing Catherine Hardwicke who could not return to direct New Moon due to time restraints. Summit released New Moon on November 20, 2009.


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|The Fish Mate F14 Aquarium Fish Feeder is a high quality automatic aquarium food dispenser. Individual compartments allow a varied diet suitable for all popular flake or pellet foods. The battery operated timer serves up to four meals a day, with a capacity for up to 14 meals total. Provide your fish with accurate feeding of all dry and flake fish foods. Serves up to 14 meals Accurate feeding of all dry fish food & flake foods Easy to use timer provides 1-4 meals a day
Eheim Twin Feeder Automatic Feeding Unit
|The Eheim Twin Feeder is an all-in-one programmable feeding system that keeps your aquarium fish safely supplied with food when you're away or simply don't have time. It feeds pellets, granules, flakes, and/or sticks, and allows easy programming of feeding times and food types. Programmable aquarium feeding system 2 separate chambers allow multiple food types Perfect for vacations & rigid feeding schedules The two food chambers may be individually programmed to dispense a particular type of food for your fish. Both chambers are aerated to keep food fresh, and allow random dosing for natural feeding. With the press of a button, smaller amounts of food may be fed as snacks at any time.The Twin Feeder is designed to fit Varilux aquarium hoods. The controller features a large, easy-to-read display, splashproof function keys, and a low battery warning system. Batteries are included. Suitable for fresh and saltwater aquariums. INSTRUCTIONS - QUICK START UP GUIDE Open Battery compartment. Insert (4) AA batteries, being mindful of the polarity of the batteries. Use Velcro® mounts to attach to aquarium. Fill the feed compartment. The automatic feeder is suitable for most commercially available fish flakes, sticks, pellets, tablets, and other granular foods. Not for fresh or moist foods. Fill the Feed Screws: Press 3 x -/+ buttons (Manual feeding in the Standard Mode). Define the Feed Quantity. SETTING TIMEPress the SET button for 3 seconds until the "Hours" flash on the display.Set the "Hours" with the minus/plus buttons. Confirm by pressing the SET button.Set the 'Minutes" with the minus/plus buttons. Confirm by pressing the SET button. PROGRAMMING (PER DAY): Set "Hours" with the minus/plus buttons. Confirm by pressing the SET button. Set the "Minutes" and confirm by pressing the SET button. Set the number of rotations and confirm by pressing the SET button. FOR RANDOM FEEDINGS: Use -/+ to set between 23:00 and 00:00 hours to "rnd" function. Confirm by pressing the SET button. The feeder will then dispense food at random between 8:00 and 18:00 hours. Set the number of rotations and confirm by pressing the SET button. Set feed time for left Feed Screw. Set the "Hours" and confirm by pressing the SET button. Set the "Minutes" and confirm by pressing the SET button. Set the number of rotations for Feed Screw and confirm by pressing the SET button. PAUSE FUNCTION:When the "Pause" symbol is activated, the unit will ignore programmed feed times for 24 hours after each six-day feeding cycle.
Ocean Nutrition Feeding Frenzy Seaweed Clips
|The Ocean Nutrition "Feeding Frenzy" Seaweed Clip is an excellent tool for feeding the "Seaweed Selects" from Ocean Nutrition™. The clip is for use underwater, and has a suction cup for attachment to the inside surface of glass or acrylic aquariums. Holds seaweed & other food for grazing tropical fish Waterproof with suction cup for in-tank feeding Perfect for vacation feeding The Ocean Nutrition Seaweed Clip has a stronger grip and a longer gripping surface than similar clips that have been used in the aquarium industry. The Seaweed Clip holds the seaweed underwater for the fish to feed upon, and helps promote a very natural feeding by allowing fish to pick at the food, little by little, over an extended period of time.
Lee's Classic Vegi Clip - Clownfish
|Lee's Classic Vegi Clips secure vegetables such as spinach, romaine lettuce or zucchini. Fish need their veggies too! Large suction cup for convenient attachment to aquarium glass; allows easy access for feeding fish. Secures vegetables to aquarium walls Suitable for fresh or saltwater aquariums & grazing fish Attaches easily with large suction cup Packaged 1 per blister card
Lees 4-way Cone Worm Feeder
|Lee's 4 Way Cone Worm Feeder dispenses live or frozen worms or brine shrimp and reduces build-up on bottom of aquarium. The 4-Way Cone Worm Feeder is made up of three separate pieces: A floating ring, a cone worm feeder, and a suction cup. Packaging Bagged. Made of a soft, flexible, break-resistant plastic. Made up of three parts: Floating ring, cone worm feeder, and suction cup Dispenses live or frozen worms and reduced build-up on aquarium bottom The floating ring may be used to provide dry food while floating on the surface or, when used in conjunction with the suction cup, it may be attached to the side wall of the aquarium to restrict feeding to a certain area. In addition, when inserting the cone, it may be used as a free-floating or confined worm feeder.
Aquachef Programmable Automatic Fish Feeder
|Dinner is Served! Your Fish Will Never Miss A Meal Again. Current USA AquaChef automatically feeds your aquarium whether you are in town or on the road. It's easy to use digital timer and large multi-functional hopper makes feeding your fish a snap. Automatic feeding up to 8 times per day Feeder capacity up to 35 Grams 2 AA batteries included Whether your feeding flake foods, pellets or crumbled feed, this hopper will hold it. With a capacity of 35 grams, its large size holds enough food to keep your fish fat while you're away. Hatch style feed door is completely adjustable, allowing you to decide how much food is dispensed at each meal. When feeding, the adjustable hatch doubles as a mixing stir bar, reducing the natural tendency for food to clump. Hopper is moisture resistant and easy to remove for filling and cleaning.Current USA AquaChef auto fish feeder sleek contour shape and black matted texture gives a new meaning to the word style. The large digital display shows the current time and is easy to view when programming. Fully adjustable clamp allows the feeder to mount on almost any style aquarium.Simple to program, the Current USA AquaChef timer allows you to set up to four automatic feedings per day. You can program it to feed at any hour of the day or night and have it deliver either a single or double feeding. The double feeding mode delivers two feedings within 60 seconds of each other - allowing you to feed your fish up to 8 times per day. If you'd like, you can also just press the manual override and the AquaChef will automatically deliver a single feeding at the press of a button.
Penn Plax Daily Double II Automatic Fish Feeder
|The Penn Plax Daily Double II Automatic Fish Feeder can dispense 2 feedings per day, for up to 4 weeks. Contains a reliable quartz movement motor, adjustable food dispensing tube, large capacity food drum and an adjustable clamp-on bracket that removes for free-standing option. Reliably feeds fish twice a day Large capacity drum holds enough flake food for up to 4 weeks Perfect for vacation feeding Requires one AA alkaline battery (not included).
Ocean Nutrition Grid Feeding Clip Butterflys
|The Ocean Nutrition "Feeding Frenzy" Grid Feeding Clip is the perfect tool for feeding Marine Butterfly fish and other "picky" or delicate feeding marine tropical. Duplicates natural "grazing" feeding pattern in tropical fish Firmly grips or holds a defrosted cube of gel-based frozen fish food Butterfly fish & others will pick through openings in screened gripping area In their natural coral reef environment, Marine Butterfly fish, Angels, Tangs and many others feed by picking throughout the day on surfaces of coral heads and live rocks. Oean Nutrition Grid Feeding Clip helps to duplicate this natural feeding behavior by holding food intact and prolonging the feeding process so that fish are not forced to eat their entire day's food in a five-minute rush. It also allows your fish to feed in this natural picking manner rather than eating food floating in the water column
NutraMatic 2X Automatic Feeder
|Hagen Nutrafin Nutramatic 2X Automatic Feeder Auto Feeder dispenses flakes or pellets, feeds every 12 hours, has a controllable food quantity setting, can be used free-standing or rim-mounted, and is battery operated. Feeds every 12 hours (2 feedings daily) Ideal automatic feeder for vacations and busy schedules Dispenses flake fish food or pellets Free standing or rim-mountable on top of your aquarium. Controllable food quantity setting to dispense flake fish food or pellet food.Note: Requires 2 AA batteries (sold separately).
Ocean Nutrition Feeding Station - Medium
|The Ocean Nutrition "Feeding Frenzy" Feeding Station is a unique tool for making the feeding of flake foods and other floating foods an easier, more efficient, and more enjoyable process (for fish and fish keepers). Keeps floating foods from scattering on water surface Saves food from being caught in filter or skimmer Durable & easy to clean The Feeding Station floats on the surface of the aquarium water and adheres to the inside surface of glass or acrylic aquariums. The Feeding Station's dimensions are 4 1/2" x 5 1/8".The Ocean Nutrition "Feeding Frenzy" Feeding Station provides a stationary zone where fish can return repeatedly to feed while containing floating foods within a limited space. The food does not immediately scatter across the aquarium water surface, which helps to reduce the clogging of filters or skimmers.
Hydor Automatic Feeder for Aquariums
|Battery operated automatic fish food feeder for Freshwater or Marine Aquariums. The Hydor Automatic fish feeder features one touch operation that makes automatic fish feeding simple and easy. The Auto Fish Feeder takes 2 AA batteries, not included, and includes a low battery indicator feature. 3 feeding settings for once, twice, or three times a day feeding Anti-drip design prevents humidity infiltration keeping food fresh and crisp See-through food container hold 90 ml food capacity Connects to any air-pump to ventilate food to prevent clogging Hydor Automatic battery operated fish feeder is adjustable to release the desired amount at feeding time. It features an airline input for the use of an optional air pump to ventilate the food to prevent clumping. The timer starts when the batteries are installed. Two year manufacturer`s warranty.
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In-Win GT1 Case Review: Fighting an Uphill Battleby Dustin Sklavos on 3/8/2013 9:00 AM EST
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MadMan007 - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkThis thing was beaten with an ugly stick from the future.
I'm not against angular and showy designs existing even if they aren't for me, but this one is just too inconsistent as if the design team was actually four different teams, each assigned to one section, whose designs were then mashed together. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkAwesome case, this is the one to buy.
All the stupid little complaints are just that, stupid and little.
If it wasn't all black I'd buy two.
The unnotched spot in the drive bay is for any custom install one needs- perfect.
One usb3 up front is fine, there's 2 usb2 and that's what most people have a ton of, depite the elite smarm face the techies here get when they cry and whine about every dollar, indicating usb3 items are something they have NOT AT ALL.
Great case, great price, I really love the whining about it, it's just such excellent entertainment.
I'd wager 90% of the people here see much uglier when they look in the mirror, compared to looking at the case, and yes that does say something about them, lol
Hypocrite, self flagellating.
AWESOME case - if you need more than 6 internal drive bays, you're a stupid freak. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkOh goody, it comes in storm trooper white...
BOUGHT ! Reply
CeriseCogburn - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkMajor advantages over the crappy antex gx700:
1. Good metal, sturdy
2. Hot swap sata bay on top
3. On off on top not middle
4. Top 5.25 accessible not filled with wiring
5. Good 3.5 drive trays just the right flexibility
6. Clear side window ( for all the crybabies about how a motherboard or video card looks, this HAS to be a 300%+ WIN. (of course whiners are not consistent and are so braindead, they usually don't notice how they completely contradict themselves all the time)
7. Removable mid internal tray for long video cards.
8. wins stock cpu temps
9. better on drive temps
Yes, I don't see really what the problem is other than the lemmings who go along with the reviewer like blind rats.
If any complaint is valid, it's the lack of lots of space for cable hiding - that's it.
This case stomps the stupid gx700 into the ground. Reply
hbycr1 - Saturday, April 11, 2015 - linki bought this case and there's nothing wrong with it.. Everything fits properly if you buy compatible parts.. I think you're just looking for something to complain about. Reply
lwatcdr - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkLets face it drives are huge today. Unless your building a NAS you do not need 7 drive bays, Frankly you do not need 6 3.5 drive bays.
If you someone was going to build a really hot machine today they would probably go with two SSDs in RAID0 for the System drive and maybe two 4Gb HDDs in RAID 1 for data.
I agree about only one USB 3 is a deal breaker.
If I was going to make a version 2 of this case I would
Drop the hot dock on top.
2 USB3 ports
Room in the top for an H110
140mm exhaust fan Reply
shaolin95 - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkYou dont need 7 drive bays, really? So because YOU dont need it the rest of the world is the same right? Reply
Skidmarks - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkThis case is targeted at gamers. Do you know any gamers that need 7 drives? Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkI have some nutball stupid friends that drool because they have harddrives - and always have to show how they add them over their home lan, it's like a retarded addiction.
One example, like 5.6 terabytes of HD space, with 4.2 terabytes free, and the doof wants more harddrives - people have an insane sort of addiction there - a lot of them do - and the older wackadoos think cookies and internet surfing takes up all their memory (that's harddrive space to them, memory - since it "remembers" stuff when the computer is turned off.
I agree though, whining about 6 internal bays is rather crazy. Reply
Omega215D - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkYou really are a retarded fuck. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkThere's another one that does it. Reply
random2 - Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - linkPatience Omega. They are young and know little of the real world...yet. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkYour stupid idiot friend has no backup, since he knows so little of the real world, like you. Reply
random2 - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkOh... to be twelve again. Reply
Omega215D - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkGame installs are quite large nowadays and I definitely would try to avoid cloud based stuff.
That said I'm only using 4 drive bays, it may go up in the future as I'd like to have a back-up drive. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkOh, you're the poor dumb fuck child without a backup !
ROFL Reply
random2 - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkLet this be a lesson to you grown ups who have kids. Unsupervised computer time may not be the best babysitting tool for you or your child.
And for God sakes if the kids is on medications for serious psychological issues please make sure he/she is monitored more closely and takes the meds. Reply
lwatcdr - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkFor gaming in a sub $100 case? Yep it does not need 7 3.5" drive bays. Six is good enough for most people and not enough to ding the case over. Reply
DanNeely - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkI think it was being dinged because it appears to have 7 places to put a 3.5" drive, but only includes 6 sleds because one in the middle of the stack was dedicated as a 2.5" install location. Reply
Omega215D - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkIt makes sense though as SSDs are becoming more mainstream. Reply
piroroadkill - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkMy system has 9 drives in it, in a Fractal Design Define R3:
1x Intel 320 120GB
1x Samsung 830 256GB
1x Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
2x Seagate Barracuda 3TB
3x Western Digital Green 2TB
1x Seagate Barracuda 500GB (to be replaced with an RMA'd 2TB WD Green)
Still had space for an LG Blu-ray/HD DVD drive left in the top bay! Reply
piroroadkill - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkDisregarding this comment of mine, good work on changing an ATX board and testing SLI.
This case is fairly ugly, but as you say, it's far from the worst looking. I don't even want to click the link to the cougar challenger again. Reply
Skidmarks - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkDo you have a fetish for storage or do you just like to hoard? Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkIt's a fetish and rather common amongst the lesser minds of America. Reply
Omega215D - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkAnand please banned this troll. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkHow about we ban you the cussing troll. Reply
random2 - Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - linkSome just aren't up on the idea of having a High def movie catalog of 500-600 movies with high bitrate DTS sound along with a couple hundred music CDs in FLAK streaming to your media PC or media player and your homes flat panels and surround sound systems. Let them play with their netbooks and NZXT Phantom Star Wars Storm Trooper cases. Eventually they all grow up. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkInto a couch potato with stolen movies... ROFL That's growing up ? What you're a bigger thief now instead of a corner candy store thief ? Yes, they will grow up, and hopefully not follow the criminals path. Reply
lwatcdr - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkYou really should build a NAS. Reply
DanNeely - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkFilling every other bay improves airflow around the drives and keeps them cooler than putting them in adjacent bays. It's also a very cheap feature checklist item. Reply
lwatcdr - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkSo you can only use three 3.5 drives instead of four in a sub $100 case? Still not worth a ding.
Now only one USB 3 port is a fail. Reply
ggathagan - Saturday, March 09, 2013 - linkSo what would you fill that space with? Reply
Grok42 - Sunday, March 10, 2013 - linkI couldn't agree more. I've done some research for a future article I'm writing and it's shocking how little diversity and experimentation is going on in the computer case industry. 95% of the cases on the market are just like this an ATX case trying to be everything to everyone and then dumping LED lighting on top of that. It's obvious no one with any sense would buy this case for anything but a gaming rig but they don't even optimize for that. Will some want to have a combined NAS and gaming rig? Sure, but it isn't 95% of the market. Give us choice.
BTW, the worst offense this case makes is including 3x 5.25" external bays. Most builds don't include legacy optical disks anymore but even those that do have no use for 3 of them. Outside the extremely niche use of hot swap bay inserts the is absolutely no use. Some might say bay coolers but they are just admitting they bought a case with bad cooling. Reply
Director12 - Monday, March 11, 2013 - link"..and maybe two 4Gb HDDs in RAID 1 for data."
Wow, that would give you, like, a whole 8gb of storage! That's just crazy, NO ONE would ever need that much storage. Reply
DanNeely - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkI have to wonder if In-Win managed to get its hands on a bunch of IO panels left over from the earlier, run a cable out and plug into the back, generation of cases really cheap. Someone trying to dump its inventory of junk before it becomes completely obsolete might be willing to offer more than just 1 or 2 dollars to get rid of it. Reply
BrokenCrayons - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkI have to admit the letters I and U on the front of the case are the most disturbing parts of the design's style. I can understand that In-Win wanted to include an I but where on Earth did they come up with the U? It's like they wanted to place a W there but didn't managed to quite fit it in place. It just comes off as odd looking and rather out of place.
Aside from that...curse you Dustin for bemoaning the notched side panels! :) Okay, I do understand that pulling machines apart is made a little easier with a hinged latch. The Dell Optiplex and Precision workstations I have on the office enterprise network make access a simple matter. However, sales of individual cases are typically to builders who either make computers for home users or who are the end home users themselves. System surgery isn't frequent for any single desktop in a home and the few moments spent pulling the side of a case off or putting it back on isn't a big deal unless the panel doesn't fit properly. Even then, what's a couple of seconds of time in even a once a month teardown to clean out dust bunnies amount to over the life of any given enclosure? I just don't see it as something that should draw any ire and after a certain price point is reached, is hardly worth more than a mention.
-BC Reply
dawp - Saturday, March 09, 2013 - linkthose can be changed to whatever you want or completely remove. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkHe wants a W but we won't ask why... Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkI am on top and U are underneath me - pretty obvious dude ! Reply
karasaj - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkAnd who the hell decided they looked good?? Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkHow did you decide "they" look bad ? Or did you ? Reply
Flunk - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkLast time I put together a computer I bought a Lian-Li PC9-F for $89. That case looks great (to me) and is light, well built and well designed. Considering that you can now get a case that is roughly as good as a premium $300 case from 10 or so years ago for a fraction of the price really drives down the prices on lower end cases.
A case like this looks positively overpriced by comparison. This thing shouts out "cheap" from the rooftops and it's $69. Maybe in 2002 that would have been a good deal, but not today.
There are a lot of better cases out there in the same price bracket. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkPlease point a few out, thanks. Reply
sulu1977 - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkWhy is USB 3.0 connectivity even an issue for a case? It's just a blank, empty case for heaven's sake. A USB port could be USB 1, 2 or 3 depending what wires you connect to it from the motherboard. So of you attach cables from USB 3 headers to all the ports then all the ports should be USB 3. Or am I missing something? Reply
smitty123 - Saturday, March 09, 2013 - link"So of you attach cables from USB 3 headers to all the ports then all the ports should be USB 3. Or am I missing something?"
obviously you are missing something,
you need the latest ports so they'll have the necessary metal connections. USB 3.0 has more connectors in it to transfer faster.
They are backwards compatible because it was designed that way, but not forward compatible, unless you can see in the future? heck the weather guy can hardly tell what's gonna look like tomorrow lol
So no, you can't have just usb 1 or 2 ports anymore and make them usb 3, they just don't have the connections.
i'd go with 4 USB3.0 ports at the front. you can't have just 2 ports side by side, the Gen 3 keys are too wide. Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Saturday, March 09, 2013 - linkAlso, each motherboard header is for a pair of ports. So when the case only has one port attached to a line, but uses one of the motherboard headers, you've basically given up a port because the case designer was a cheapskate. Reply
lwatcdr - Saturday, March 09, 2013 - linkI was going to say that they should got 2 3.0 and 2 2.0 USB ports because we all know that there will be some motherboard that will not wake from sleep when you wiggle a mouse or hit a key on a 3.0 port. Except that why would you plug your mouse or keyboard into the front ports. Yea your right 4 3.0 ports is the way to go.
I just do not get the one 3.0 port, it seems like the worst solution. If there where none then you could just get a 3.0 card reader/ 3.0 ports that fit into a drive bay. With one 3.0 port you give up one of the 3.0 ports on the header. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkBecause the eggheads pretend they have multiple usb3 devices they need to connect al at once - it brags proud monied mega geek to whine about it.
Plus, once the ponce reviewer spews his crap, the lemmings repeat like parrots - you know how when you teach something to mthe rubes about you, several week sor monts later they repeat it to you excitedly as if they just thought it up...
At least the parrots read that part, and squealed out the agreeing whine. Reply
Sleepingforest - Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - linkSo, you're saying that there's no way I'd want to, say, back up my computer to a USB 3.0 external hard drive, use USB 3.0's higher voltage to charger my phone, and upload my camera's contents at the same time? Because those are all concievably concurrent needs.
In fact, I could say you are elitist for thinking we need any front panel USB at all--a single back panel USB 1.0 was enough fifteen years ago. Why not today? Reply
CeriseCogburn - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkYou're backup should be plugged into the back, readily available, so you aren't moving it and destroying it.
Your cellphone has a charger, and it's slow off a computer, and you have no outlet that isn't overloaded right there?
Your camera - not likely you have a usb 3.0 cable for your camera, you idiot.
Three strikes you're out...
You were saying... ? " Yes, I agree with you Cerise, you have a brain, a very big one and you think it through instead of being a dummy with a big mouth and far too willing to use it."
Oh, that's what you were saying. Good little boy, good boy. Reply
Sleepingforest - Friday, March 15, 2013 - linkNo, the backup shouldn't always be plugged in, otherwise whatever damage happens to the computer (fire, flood, virus, and so on) won't happen to the backup drive. If you get a good external drive, moving it while it's off has no consequences--you know, the thing people do with laptops? There are cameras with USB 3.0 because it's faster, as seen here: http://usbtips.com/nikon-d800-dslr-launches-with-s... I happen to use my phone even when I sit at a computer, so it's helpful to charge it while it's next to me.
So no, you look like the idiot here. You have a narrowly focused world view that can't comprehend usage scenarios beyond your own, you don't think through anything you say, and most of what you say is insults anyway. Reply
dawp - Sunday, March 10, 2013 - linkwhy can't we flag obvious spam like this? Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkBecause although Anandtech favors whining crybaby commentears, they do not like rude non first amendment jerks who wish to dominate and control everyone else, when it is clear you don't like it, since you wasted our time whining about it and bringing more attention to it.
I know, it's hard not to get some revenge satisfaction voting people off the comment area like a 3rd world dictator, if you want that crap go to toms - oh wait you do, then in a frenzy -20 as many people who talk sense as you possibly can, causing everyone else who doesn't have a bleeding tampon on display constantly having to go through the trouble of unhiding the often sentient comments you idiot fanboy whiners have hidden.
Now, that's why I say, and admittedly for the first time ever that may not be exactly correct, but you did ask, you power hungry evil person, and you got an answer. Reply
keithh - Monday, March 11, 2013 - linkI'm guessing that you don't pay the electricity bill. I did the math and it was cheaper for me to decommission a bunch of smaller drives and replace them with a single 2TB drive. The cost was recovered in a couple of years. Further, the newer drives are faster, quieter, and cooler.
I second the recommendation to invest in a NAS. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkUmm, excuse me - but after "several years" of saving 5 watts per drive or so, and you've finnally "recouped your initial costs", although that isn't counting the possible REAL INVESTMENT of that added expense and the wonder of combined interest, you want to spend a wad on a very expensive rip off NAS ?
Dumb as can be, NAS is an "investment"....
Computer parts are not investments - you know maybe - if you are really goofy and you go to the raving loon retro section of ebay you could get a bit more than scrap weight price after a few years.
You aren't INVESTING, okay ?
Pass that along to the thousand other wannabe faux acting CEO's on this board, won't you ?
Spending on crap that depreciates faster than cars is NOT an investment. Reply
keithh - Monday, March 11, 2013 - linkUh, no Director12, that would give him a whole *4* GB of mirrored data. That's more than enough for lots of applications - especially if you have your important stuff (photos & music) on the NAS in the basement. Reply
xygtshadow - Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - linkI do have a pair of 4GB drives from the 90's... But I couldn't fathom using them anymore. They're horrendously slow and my motherboard doesn't even support PATA ribbon cables. Reply
angryblanket - Monday, March 11, 2013 - link1x usb 3.0 port and this thing looks like crap?! It would be OK without the brand naming but my goodness that huge "I U" in red makes me want to willingly gouge my eyes out. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkPlease do as they obviously are not used to read articles, thus saving you pain and suffering on your artsy fartsy doofus assessment, better for the feminine area of some girly tupperware get together. Reply
sarahjordan - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - linkHow to enlarge a profile picture of a Facebook account
In this article we show you something on Facebook allows you to enlarge any image on facebook even if it is protected, that due to an error in the image URL on facebook, you can return the the size of the photos before the main added, making it without loss of image quality when enlarged, because we really did not return to its normal size, this thing is nice Try it with your friends and not forget to comment.
The best way to view photos on Facebook!
MAKE SURE YOU ARE USING THE LATEST VERSION OF GOOGLE CHROME (AT LEAST VERSION 18.xx).
Facebook Photo Zoom is a free Google Chrome extension that automatically displays the full version of Facebook photos when you hover your cursor over it. and it is easier to recognize friends and other familiar faces, it saves a lot of time on the opening of each image separately, especially if your connection is weak.
Google Chrome extensions usually download and install in a flash, and you do not need to restart your browser to begin using them. Facebook Photo Zoom is managed from the Extensions page in the Tools menu, but unlike many other Chrome extensions it actually configure some options, such as a slider to set the opacity zoom tool shortcut , and fields for carrying molten image milliseconds. There's even a help page, another nice departure from the usual documentation offered few add-ons for Chrome, which we assume are usually quite simple not to require any instruction.
So how does Facebook Photo Zoom? All right. We traveled to a friend's page and spotted a few photos. Hovering the cursor over an image opens a pop-up with a full view, and roll the cursor was closed just as quickly and smoothly. It does not matter if the image was published in a photo album or on a wall, Facebook Photo Zoom blew to normal size when moused over. If you are a Chrome user who spends a lot of time on Facebook, this extension is essential. If you live on Facebook, but have not yet tried Chrome, here's your chance!
to download this plugins :
http://www.proshop.im/2013/02/how-to-enlarge-profi... Reply
Sikku - Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - linkI am not able to navigate through the Gallery section.. Looks like it is because of the new design..
There is no next link to go to the next image in the gallery, nor does the next image come up if I click on the images in the bottom... Reply
random2 - Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - linkSay what you want about the ugliness...and I agree...but a large percentage of the people buying and building PCs today are 16-26 years old, and they love the types of cases that appear to be either recycled Storm Troopers, (not the Cooler Master storm trooper) or projects from a desperately lacking in talent community college design class.
I would love to buy an NZXT Phantom series, just to beat it to death with a large hammer. Reply
CeriseCogburn - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkYet people like you go gaga over a flat black rectangle.
ROFL - it's amazing - and the hate for 16-26 year old upcoming techs is also amazing. Reply
vanphammanh - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkYou dont need 7 drive bays, really? In-Win also tags what's fast becoming one of my biggest pet peeves in case design: odd-numbered USB ports. Reply
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CeriseCogburn - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkKey words, pet and peeve. Reply
levaty - Wednesday, February 11, 2015 - linkHello. I got my Inwin GT1 case today. I ran into an issue that you talked about, that being the fan controller! My fans always run at 100%. How do you figure out the order of the molex cables? Reply


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