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Discrete HTPC GPU Shootoutby Ganesh T S on 6/12/2011 10:30 PM EST
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fixxxer0 - Sunday, June 12, 2011 - linkthat arrangement of cards slightly resembles a swastika Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Sunday, June 12, 2011 - linkThanks for the heads up, it honestly didn't cross our minds at all but now that it's been pointed out I can completely see the resemblance. Needless to say we've removed the offending image and I'd like to apologize to anyone who was offended.
Thank you guys for catching it so quickly.
Take care,
Anand Reply
fb39ca4 - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkIf people want to jump to conclusions, let them. The swastika means many things, if you want to associate it with Nazis then go ahead, or you could associate it with the religion Jainsim, which it happens to be a symbol of. Your interpretaion of the image affects no one, there is no reason to make a big deal over it. Reply
fixxxer0 - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linklol... i made no connection to nazis or anything... nor said i was offended.
i just pointed out a resemblance i noticed as a matter of fact. Reply
tzhu07 - Sunday, June 12, 2011 - linkYeah, time to change the Nazi reference. Reply
qwertymac93 - Sunday, June 12, 2011 - linkThe indians(the asian ones...) have been using Swastikas for centuries before the nazi party was even thought of. Just sayin'. Reply
jwilliams4200 - Sunday, June 12, 2011 - linkIt is unfortunate that there is such an over-reaction to something like this. Besides, the swastika symbol is and has been used for many, many other purposes than representing Nazis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika Reply
Souka - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkTrue as it may be that fact remains that if some one says:
Most people think of Adolf
Most people think of Nazi
I'm of Jewish decent... the pic didn't offend me in the least bit, nor my friends.
Jusy saying.... ;) Reply
Gnarr - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkpeople should be thinking of Nazi's and Hitler anyways, it reminds everyone not to make that mistake again.
I see no harm in accidentally arranging something in a Swastika :p
and on that notes.. There is a company in my home country that has been using the swastika as the company logo for over hundred years:
http://martasmarta.blog.is/users/1d/martasmarta/im... ;) Reply
L. - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkUnfortunately it does not.
The way the western world depicts adolf hitler, nazism and everything surrounding that part of history is far from reminding anyone not to make that mistake again, as the main message is "nazi evil, hitler evil, us good guys, us not like them".
Anyone ever wondered what difference there is between Gestapo and the Patriot Act ? - oh right it doesn't target jews so it's fine ... lol Reply
SouthPaw42 - Sunday, June 12, 2011 - linkTo be a HTPC card it has to be passively cooled. Those a mini pc video cards. Reply
Spivonious - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkAgreed. HTPC should be as quiet as possible. Passively-cooled video is the only choice. Reply
Mels - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkSome of us have equipment closets dedicated to equipment using RF to communicate. Noise is definitely something most want to keep reduced but not a deal breaker for every person with a HTPC. Reply
nevcairiel - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkNot necessarily, there are air coolers that are absolutely quiet. Only the very low-end is available with passive, which might be fine for many people, but if you want the "best" out of your HTPC, that cards won't do anymore.
Look at the Gigabyte cards with the Windforce coolers, i don't hear a thing. Reply
buzznut - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkHIS has a passively cooled HD6570 at newegg.
Low profile too. Reply
jigglywiggly - Sunday, June 12, 2011 - linkNow that the swatsitka is removed, I feel like something is missing from this review and I can no longer read it ;'( Reply
jwilliams4200 - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkIf I add up the string of numbers for the 6570, I get 193, not 197 like you have in the table. Then I see that the 430 also scores 193, and I compared the string of numbers for the 403 and the 6570, and they are identical. So why does it add up to 193 for the 430, but 197 for the 6570? Reply
ganeshts - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkSorry for the slip-up.
The 'Ferris Wheel' and 'Roller Coaster' Compression Artifacts scores were wrong in the table under the 6570. I have updated them (no change to the total score). Reply
jwilliams4200 - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkAlso, AMD 6450 adds up to 193, not 189. Reply
ganeshts - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkMade a big mess copying over the values from the spreadsheet I made.. I hope everything is fixed now. Really regret the errors. Reply
jwilliams4200 - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkAll the numbers add up correctly now. Thanks for monitoring the comments and fixing the errors! Reply
Samus - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkHonestly, my Geforce 210 has been chillin' in my HTPC for 2+ years, and works perfectly :) Reply
josephclemente - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkIf I am running a Sandy Bridge system with Intel HD Graphics 3000, do these cards have any benefit over integrated graphics? What is Anandtech's HQV Benchmark score?
I tried searching for scores, but people say this is subjective and one reviewer may differ from another. One site says 196 and another in the low 100's. What does this reviewer say? Reply
ganeshts - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkGive me a couple of weeks. I will be getting a test system soon with the HD 3000, and I will do detailed HQV benchmarking in that review too. Reply
firstname.lastname@example.com - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkI recently built a HTPC with a core i5-2500k on a ASUS P8H67 EVO with a Ceton InfiniTV cable card. Note that the Intel driver is fundamentally flawed and will destroy a system if patched. See the Intel communities thread 20439 for more details.
Besides causing BSOD over HDMI output when patched, the stable versions have their own sets of bugs including a memory bleed when watching some premium content on HD channels that crashed WMC. Intel appears to have 1 part time developer working on this problem but every test river he puts out breaks more than it fixes. Watching the same, content with a system running a NVIDIA GPU and the memory bleed goes away.
In my opinion, second gen SB chips is just not ready for prime time in a fully loaded HTPC. Reply
jwilliams4200 - Monday, June 13, 2011 - link"The first shot shows the appearance of the video without denoising turned on. The second shot shows the performance with denoising turned off. "
Heads I win, tails you lose! Reply
ganeshts - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkAgain, sorry for the slip-up, and thanks for bringing it to our notice. Fixed it. Hopefully, the gallery pictures cleared up the confusion (particularly the Noise Reduction entry in the NVIDIA Control Panel) Reply
stmok - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkLooking through various driver release README files, it appears the mobile Nvidia Quadro NVS 4200M (PCI Device ID: 0x1056) also has this feature set.
The first stable Linux driver (x86) to introduce support for Feature Set D is 270.41.03 release.
=> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/270.41...
It shows only the Geforce GT 520 and Quadro NVS 4200M support Feature Set D.
The most recent one confirms that they are still the only models to support it.
=> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/275.09... Reply
ganeshts - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkThanks for bringing it to our notice. When that page was being written (around 2 weeks back), the README indicated that the GT 520 was the only GPU supporting Feature Set D. We will let the article stand as-is, and I am sure readers perusing the comments will become aware of this new GPU. Reply
havoti97 - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkSo basically the app store's purpose is to attract submissions of ideas for features of their next OS, uncompensated of course. All the other crap/fart apps not worthy are approved and people make pennies of those. Reply
qwertymac93 - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkWhat the heck are you talking about? Reply
velis - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkA great review. Provides all the answers one could wish for and even gives some further hints.
I sure hope you have something like this lined up for llano.
If I may suggest a couple or three things:
Perhaps you should also mention reclock - it will solve most 23.976 and similar problems... It's not like many will detect that the video is running 1/24000th faster. Plus it's insanely easy to use.
I understand you couldn't just post full blown images for space problems, but those thumbnails require too much work too. Is it possible to display a popup of sorts when one mouse-overs those thumbnails?
Also a vertical line showing 60FPS in those DXVA tests would be great :) Reply
ganeshts - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkI will pass on your request(s) to the person in charge of the graphing engine :) Reply
Salfalot - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkWhat might have been a nice option is to see what sound levels the cards produced. Even it was only for the GT430 and the HD6570. I know that the decibels can differ between manufacturers but it would have been nice!
For the rest a very nice detailed review between HTPC cards. I was deciding which card to buy so this helped a great deal! I was only looking between the HD6450 and the HD6570 but the GT430 is a better option than the HD6450. Reply
nevcairiel - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkHDMI Audio is purely digital, there is no diference based on what card you use.
It depends on the audio decoder, and your receiver at the other end of the HDMI link, the HDMI sound card on those cards does not change the audio. Reply
Salfalot - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkI think I did not use the right word, as I meant the levels of decibel the fan of the cards produce and not the audio too and through speakers.
All reviewed cards have a fan on them and since most of the HTPC setups are in the living room it would have been nice to know which of the cards are most silent. Reply
ganeshts - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkThough we considered cards with fans in this review, we made it a point to note that the same configuration (GPU model + DRAM bus width + operating frequencies) can be obtained with passive cooling from other vendors.
For example, the 6570 has a passively cooled model from HIS with the same config and Zotac has a passively cooled 430 too. Other vendors have also demonstrated passively cooled models in Computex. Reply
cjs150 - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkFirstly, a truly informative article. Very high quality.
The fact that none of AMD, Intel and Nvidia can lock onto to the correct frame rates is unforgiveable. It is not as though these frame rates have changed over the last 6 months. It should not be necessary to be an advanced HTPC user and delve into custom creation of frame rates.
I really hope that the representatives of AMD, Intel and NVidia are hanging their heads in shame at such basic errors - sadly I doubt they care. Reply
Grasso789 - Monday, January 28, 2013 - linkThe mistake is rather with Microsoft. Video playback speed should be adapted to the refresh rate of the grafx card. There is a software called Reclock doing that. Then, for example 23,996 Hz can be run with a monitor refresh rate of n times 24 Hz. (The same with audio, because bit-perfect transmission only works with synchronization.) In the end and for most sources, the RAMDAC needed only (multiples of) 24, 25 and 30 Hz. In any system, one of its parts should be the clock master, while the other parts serve. Reply
casteve - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkExcellent review, Ganesh! Your HTPC insight/reviews have been missed. Reply
casteve - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkI hope to see a review of the HD 6670, now that (at least) Sapphire has released a passive version. Reply
Drae - Monday, June 13, 2011 - link... it'd be nice to see more use of Linux please. I realise there are a lack of "testing" and "evaluation" tools under Linux but that shouldn't prevent the testing of basic media needs. What's this about no bit streaming support under Linux? Boxee would disagree - as would:
along with XBMC's audioengine (involving work by the guy in the above link). Maybe Windows 8 will sort out the mess that is WMC and all the messing (or bypassing with MPC-HC) that is required to get it working solidly. But right now if you want something that approaches a plug and play media experience XBMC (and its off-spring Openelec) under Linux is a lot closer than Windows. Equally the more coverage such solutions get the more likely greater time will be spent fixing the remaining issues under the Linux OS - hello there Intel and AMD.
Finally there is a great move now - go look at AVS' fora for examples - away from large media center pc's to small, quiet (silent) systems. These don't require 300W or 500W power supplies and huge cases with twelve fans and fifty million led's. They are ITX based systems sitting in small ITX sized boxes running 65/80/90/120W PicoPSU's with much greater efficiency and thus lower power use/running costs/silence. Placing these discrete cards in such systems would be a nice test of these picopsu units - given the apparently low power draw shown in the articles (something I'm very interested in seeing right now given the poor support of Linux by Intel on Sandybridge - the GT430 would be a good interim solution for me).
TLDR: Please don't limit yourselves to Windows testing and ATX/mATX sized systems when writing HTPC articles Reply
ganeshts - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkDrae, Thanks for the info and the link.
The issue with Linux HTPCs is the fact that there is a semblance of support from only NVIDIA.
Don't get me wrong! I am a huge Linux fan, and always prefer free / open-source software. But, from a video perspective, is there a multi-GPU platform similar to DXVA ? Every vendor has their own flavour (NVIDIA - VDPAU / Intel - VA-API / AMD - XvBA). From the audio side, it looks like the link you mention is the only avenue available for bitstreaming, and that too for NVIDIA GPUs only. I will keep close tabs on what is happening in this area, and when the time is right, I will definitely post a piece on Linux HTPCs, considering one card from each of the vendors. Reply
cjs150 - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkAs always it depends on what you want from an HTPC. For me I want to play Blu rays, stream HD movies from file server, watch and record TV and do some web browsing but in total silence (or as close to as possible).
For me ITX systems are the way to go using a 150W PICO-pSU but critical is that they have to work with appropriate IR remote (Logitech DiNovo looks interesting)
I am happy to use Linux or Windows but it just has to work Reply
alfredska - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkThis kind of quality review is what made AnandTech a name to remember early on. I'm glad to see such thoroughness and well thought out presentation of information. Looking forward to more reviews by Ganesh. Reply
UrQuan3 - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - linkAgreed, this is an excelent article. I tried cross referencing to the "Zotec Zbox" article from the 9th (I own an E-350) and the earlier benchmarking was useless. I already know the E-350 won't do full processing, but I wanted to know where it sits compared to these platforms that pull 3-10 times the power.
Think a 'software mode' might have been useful? An i5 could have done a fair amount of this processing without a hardware assist, saving the 70watts the cards were pulling and avoiding some of the integrated's compatability issues. Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkI dont get the video card focus in the realm of HTPC. It seems that software is a far more important piece of the picture than a video card. Windows media center and XBMC both work like crap, and/or are unacceptably slow and clunky when it comes to browsing media. I do NOT tolerate that kind of lag, especially on a 3 ghz quadcore with an ssd/hdd drive setup. I dont expect miracles when trying to browse through a gigabyte of media, but still it should be faster. And then there's audio sync problems that like to appear out of nowhere. But you'd never know any of these problems exist from reading these articles. Shrug.
I have found that VLC media player and windows explorer are the most reliable combination. But using windows explorer on an htpc is ugly and painful. Reply
JasonInofuentes - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkI think part of the problem is the degree to which there's news. A thorough review of Media Center might be warranted, the next time it changes, but was pretty thoroughly covered here (http://www.anandtech.com/show/2864/) and here (http://www.anandtech.com/show/2760). XBMC has a more frequent update cycle than Windows, and there's obviously interest so this might be an idea to explore further.
As far as the difficulties with each of these platforms, a Z68 platform and SRT might be the solution here. So the size of the files is not really the problem, it's that when you browse to a folder the user wants to be able to scroll around the list or grid and have all of the information pertinent to those files readily available. You don't want to scroll over to a file in your West Wing Season 5 folder and wait for the Title to load so you know whether it's the episode you were looking for, you want that information to be up the instant you scroll to it, or even better for it to be glanceable before you even start scrolling. In order to achieve this the OS's load all of the information for all of the files in the folder. So if you have a few dozen files in a folder that's the metadata for each files, the thumbnail preview and then the usual file system queries the OS would do anytime it accesses the drive. That can add up to a lot of small reads, and that leads to that big stall as you scoot around your media.
Now, the throw money at it solution is move to ALL SSD storage. But I've got 4TB of media and don't have that kind of money to throw at the problem. SRT should help though. If I recall, the metadata and thumbnail files are stored locally in the folder with the files, but since SRT caches the frequently accessed files, then for a system used exclusively for media the only thing that should populate the SSD cache is going to be these small reads that otherwise slow down your system.
I am suddenly overwhelmed with an urge to get my hands on a Z68 to try this out! And you are quite right that VLC and Windows Explorer are the most reliable programs for browsing and playing back media, but the price you pay for pretty is often performance. Reply
vailr - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkAs an exercise in "possibility thinking", I'd be interested in a sub-category of a complete "solar powered" desktop-format PC review. Designed (theoretically) for someone living in a remote area, off the electrical grid, yet still having internet via satellite, cell phone signal, or otherwise connected. Designed for ultra low power consumption, mostly dependent on solar and/or wind power produced on site. Yet maximal possible performance (under such power restrictions) for either: generic gaming desktop PC, and also for a HTPC. Using SSD's and/or laptop HD's for storage, and with an energy sipping CPU (dual-core Atom vs. Intel i330, for example), combined with either: on-CPU chip video or a "PCIe bus only" powered video card, and yet somewhat viable as a gaming PC or as a HTPC.
Maybe even qualify for an article in Home Power magazine? http://homepower.com Reply
Penti - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkWhy? Running a 100 W PC of batteries is pretty pointless.
Just install FTTH and a powerline if you like to game or do other intensive tasks needing GPU-power, fast cpus or ridiculous amounts of memory (workstation type stuff). It would be the most efficient solution any way. You don't even need any power for any modems. You certainly can run a PC of battery power off grid, but why destroy your work with that. It would be hard to store much electrical power.
Otherwise you would pretty much had to get by with a low-powered laptop. No monitor.
Do the unabomber type guys need any gaming? If so they need to install a good damn power line or at least a diesel-generator. They don't have the money and skills to build energy storage and buy panels thats enough to power a modern home any way. Reply
enki - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkHow about a short conclusion section for those who just use a Windows 7 box with a Ceton tuner card to watch hdtv in Windows Media Center? (i.e. will just be playing back WTV files recorded directly on the box)
What provides the best quality output?
What can stream better then stereo over HDMI? On my old 3400 ATI card it either streams the Dolby Digital directly (the computer doesn't do any processing of the audio) or can output stereo (doesn't think there can be more then 2 speakers connected)
Thanks Reply
BernardP - Monday, June 13, 2011 - linkThe inability to create and scale custom resolutions within AMD graphics drivers is, for me, a deal-breaker that keeps me from even considering AMD graphics. It will also keep me from Llano, Trinity and future AMD Fusion APU's. I'll stay with NVidia as long as they keep allowing for custom resolutions.
My older eyes are grateful for the custom 1536 X 960 desktop resolution on my 24 inch 16:10 monitor. I couldn't create this resolution with AMD graphics drivers. Reply
bobbozzo - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkIn your case, you should just increase the size of the fonts and widgets instead of lowering the screen res. Reply
Assimilator87 - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkI wish there was a section dedicated to the silent stream bug. I have a GTX 470 hooked up to an Onkyo TX-SR805 and this issue is driving me insane. For instance, does this issue only plague certain cards or do all nVidia suffer from it? I was hoping the latest WHQL driver (275.33) would fix this, but sadly, no. Otherwise, the article was amazing and I'll definitely have to check out LAV Splitter. Reply
ganeshts - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkThe problem with the silent stream bug is that one driver version has it, the next one doesn't and then the next release brings it back. It is hard to pinpoint where the issue is.
Amongst our candidates, even with the same driver release, the GT 520 had the bug, but the GT 430 didn't. I am quite confident that the GT 520 issue will get resolved in a future update, but then, I can just hope that it doesn't break the GT 430. Reply
JoeHH - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkThis is simply one of the best articles I have ever seen about HTPC. Congrats Ganesh and thank you. Very informative and useful. Reply
bobbozzo - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkHi, Can you please compare hardware de-intelacing, etc., vs software?
e.g. many players/codecs can do de-interlacing, de-noise, etc. in software, using the CPU.
How does this compare with a hardware implementation?
thanks Reply
ganeshts - Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - linkThis is a good suggestion. Let me try that out in the next HTPC / GPU piece. Reply
CiNcH - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - linkHey guys,
here is how I understand the refresh rate issue. It does not matter weather it is 0.005 Hz off. You can't calculate frame drops/repeats from that. In DirectShow, frames are scheduled with the graph reference clock. So the real problem is how much the clock which the VSync is based on and the reference clock in the DirectShow graph drift from each other. And here comes ReClock into play. It derives the DirectShow graph clock from the VSync, i.e. synchronizes the two. So it does not matter weather your VSync is off as long as playback speed is adjusted accordingly. A problem here is synchronizing audio which is not too easy if you bitstream it... Reply
NikosD - Thursday, June 16, 2011 - linkNice guide but you missed something.
It's called PotPlayer, it's free and has built-in almost everything.
CPU & DXVA (partial, full) codecs and splitters for almost every container and every video file out there.
The same is true for audio, too.
It has even Pass through (S/PDIF, HDMI) for AC3/TrueHD/DTS, DTS-HD. Only EAC3 is not working.
It has also support for madVR and a unique DXVA-renderless mode which combines DXVA & madVR!
I think it's close to perfect!
BTW, in the article says that there is no free audio decoder for DTS, DTS-HD.
That's not correct.
FFDShow is capable of decoding and pass through (S/PDIF, HDMI) both DTS and DTS-HD.
And PotPlayer of course! Reply
ganeshts - Thursday, June 16, 2011 - linkPotPlayer apparently doesn't have support for hardware deinterlacing, and has a host of other issues [ Search for PotPlayer in this page and then read the next set of posts about it : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=20... ].
Of course, if it works for you, it is great :) (probably it is a good solution for people watching progressive material only).
The author of LAV CUVID talks in that thread about how renderless DXVA mode works with madVR at the cost of deinterlacing.
Btw, there is no decode of DTS-HD in any open source software now. Both ffdshow and PotPlayer can decode only the core DTS soundtrack. DTS decode has been around for a long time, though. Reply
NikosD - Saturday, June 18, 2011 - linkIndeed, I was referring to progressive material only - interlaced material is rare - but the page you mentioned says PotPlayer has CPU deinterlacing.
I don't see where is the problem.
Hardware Deinterlacing is less important - for most users - than Hardware Decoding (DXVA) and less important than the UNIQUE capability of using DXVA + madVR at the same time.
The cost of hardware deinterlacing is nothing compared to the cost of DXVA and madVR.
For the audio part of your answer, I have to say that because of my AVR (Pioneer VSX-920) decoding inside a PC, BluRay, Media Player or any other decoding capable device of multi-channel audio is never an option for me.
I always prefer the bitstreaming solutions for multi-channel audio - as most of the owners of AVR do - like those provided by FFDshow and PotPlayer which both are more than capable of providing them.
That's why I wrote "decoding and pass-through", I had to write "splitting and pass-through".
One last word.
For every piece of software out there, there is always a list of changes, bugs, things to do.
That doesn't mean we don't use it or like it. Reply
PR3ACH3R - Friday, June 17, 2011 - link@Ganesh T S,
This is some NICE work.
In fact, I cannot recall when was the last time I have seen such an in depth article on the HTPC GPU subject in Anandtech.
The balance between the technical issues, the background, & the effort to honestly report all issues known to you in this article, is spot on.
If it is missing something on the issues report, it misses on the ATI/AMD DPC Latency spiking issues.
As this is still remains unnoticed in Anandtech even in this excellent article, here is a link to the AVS post describing it.
(Ignore some of the discredit attempt posts in this thread, this problem exists to this very day.) Reply
NikosD - Thursday, June 23, 2011 - linkWell, I did some further tests and found out that PotPlayer does have hardware deinterlacing.
Have you done any tests by yourself to see if the player supports Hardware Deinterlacing ? Reply
ganeshts - Saturday, June 25, 2011 - linkNikosD, I will definitely try PotPlayer out in the next GPU review. Till now, my knowledge is limited to what is there in the AVSForum thread. Reply
flashbacck - Friday, June 24, 2011 - linkI know HTPCs are even more of niche these days than ever, so I appreciate you still doing these tests very much. Reply
wpoulson - Thursday, July 28, 2011 - linkI really appreciate this guide and have been stepping through it
I just registered the ASVid.ax file from TMT5 but the filter is not showing up in the External Filter section of MPC-HC. At first I thought it might be because I registered it on the 32 bit side and I'm using 64 bit MPC-HC, so I unregistered the file from System 32 and registered it on the 64 bit side.
I registered it by going to Start>CMD>Cntrl-Shift-Enter and using the "Regsvr32" command to register the file. I put the file along with the checkactivate dll in a folder in the root directory of my C drive and pointed the Regsvr command to the ASVid.ax file. After hitting enter, I received a "dll successfully registered" message.
Can someone help me to get the filter visible for MPC-HC?
A question...While it's considered beta, will the new LAV video decoder do the same thing the arcsoft video decoder does?
Warren Reply
stuartm - Friday, January 20, 2012 - linkI am aware the gt 430 is a good choice to work around the infamous WMC 29/59 framerate bug. Can you comment on whether or not the 6570 will stutter or not when playing content with 29/59 framerate problems? A very important consideration for those of us using ceton or HDHR Primes (or the new Hauppauge box) for cable TV Live viewing and record/replay.
Thank You Reply
MichaelSan1980 - Saturday, January 21, 2012 - linkI'd use my HTPC for DVD's and BD's only with an Full-HD TV. Since i have a rather strong CPU and wouldn't use Hardware Deinterlacing for DVDs, i wonder, if the GT520 is ~that~ bad, in terms of image quality? Reply
drizzo4shizzo - Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - linkOld guy here.
In the market but I need confirmation that these cards can do component output to "old guy" HDTV.
NONE of the marketing materials suggest that any recent card can.
Meaning they either come with a component video breakout or at least are compatible with a known 3rd party product, and that they can do the RGB -> YUV thing.
This ancient EVGA 7600 GT I have does it... with an "svideo lookalike" 7 pin -> component breakout.
Anyone? Beuller? Reply


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• Lastly, because they are thin they are more ascetically appealing, especially when you begin graduating into those higher strengths! No more coke bottles pretending to be lenses here!
Polycarbonate Frame
We use polycarbonate for the majority of our frames for its versatility and durability. This type of plastic allows us to use multiple types of color treatments creating the hundreds of different looks and frame shapes you'll find on our site. Being that it is also extremely light weight and high impact resistant gives our customers a long lasting, durable pair of glasses.
Dual Anti-Scratch Coating
All of our lenses have an anti-scratch hard coated treatment on both sides of the lens (hence why we say dual). They are dipped into the solution which ensures an equal amount is applied to both sides. One more way we ensure our lenses stand up to daily wear and tear.
Spring Hinges
We offer spring hinges for added comfort and durability. The hinge is actually spring loaded and helps reduce the amount of pressure applied to your head and the frame.
UV360 Protection
All of our lenses offer UV360 protection. This allows us to block the most harmful UV light from your eyes without any tint
at all!
Free Case
We include a free case with all of our peepers! One more way we help you take care of your glasses offering fashionable protection.

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Elise Pettus NEW YORK ( MainStreet) --I learned for certain that my marriage was on its way to extinction when I came across a memo to my husband referring to his recent contract with one of New York City's most infamous divorce attorneys. After picking myself up off the floor, I figured I had no choice but to fight fire with fire and hire the best (read: most expensive) lawyer I could afford. After two years of negotiations and the better part of a five-figure legal retainer, I still wasn't divorced yet. What was I getting exactly, that wouldn't be available for say, $399, as the shop front in my neighborhood advertised?
A few weeks ago, I made a visit to find out. I introduced myself to Anna Soriano of Segarra Brokerage, who has been handling divorces for 20 years out of her small storefront on Smith Street in Brooklyn. As I sat down at her desk to get the scoop, she assured me that she had never had a problem in her two decades of practice. My first question: "$399 for real?" Not exactly, it turns out. That's just the fee for legal- document preparation (divorce attorneys call it "data input"). Two more payments are required to cover court fees. When I ask how much, Soriano had to excuse herself to go check the small print on the ad in the window. All told, it would cost me $734. If you think that is a lot to pay someone to handle, file and process a bunch of forms, take a look at the cash I had shelled out. In any event, as my new divorce acquaintance explained it, she and I fill out the application together, then she takes my check for $399 and sends it in to "the agency" (divorce attorneys call it "divorce mill"), where they submit it to the court for an index number that gets assigned to my case. That number is sent directly to me along with a fat packet of forms and documents. I fill those out (Soriano offered to help me if I needed) and submit those to the court. "Then," Soriano tells me, "it's up to the judges." The first step takes about two weeks, she tells me, "but then the courts can drag it out for two or three months." Still beats two or three years.


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