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|9 La. 387: "Pandelly"; see also #5964, 1 La. Ann. 21; This case comes before the court on the opposition of several creditors united, to the proceedings of the creditors before the notary, by which John D. Bein and Joseph Le Carpentier were appointed syndics of the creditors of the insolvent debtor. The insolvent presented his petition and bilan to the district judge, and prayed leave to make a surrender of his property, for the benefit of his creditors, and obtain the benefit of the insolvent laws. The cession of his property was accepted, and a meeting of the creditors took place before a notary, who presented their respective claims, and voted for syndics. These proceedings were returned by the notary into court, on the 6th June, 1835, and on the 16th of the same month, Tricou and several other creditors united, presented an opposition to the appointment of the syndics, as being illegal, on the following grounds: 1. Two votes are recorded by the firm of Reynolds, Byrne & Co., one given by C. Briggs, acting for the firm, on a claim of twenty-four thousand six hundred dollars, for John D. Bein, as sole syndic; the second by James Peuch, acting under a power of attorney, on twenty-five thousand dollars, for J. D. Bein and J. Le Carpentier, as joint syndics. These votes are alleged to be illegal, because the creditors have not certified upon oath, that their claim was true and legitimate, and because no creditor can take the oath and vote by proxy for syndics, &c. 2. The same objections are made to a large sum voted on by different creditors, in the same way, all being given for Bein and Le Carpentier. They pray that these votes be all declared illegal, and that Claude Samory, who had also a large vote, be declared the sole syndic. The votes, as returned by the notary, stood one hundred and seventy-two thousand five hundred and eighty-five dollars for Bein and Le Carpentier, ninety-six thousand seven hundred and eighty-one dollars for Claude Samory, forty-seven thousand three hundred and fourteen dollars for John D. Bein alone, fourteen thousand three hundred and twenty-three dollars for J. Le Carpentier alone, and two thousand one hundred and twenty-six dollars for Le Carpentier and Samory. The notary returned Bein and Le Carpentier as elected joint syndics. The district judge, in deciding on this opposition, determined that the proceedings were illegal, and that another meeting of creditors take place on a day to be fixed, unless an appeal was taken within ten days, and that the notary receive no votes of creditors, under powers of attorney, unless such power is accompanied by notarial acts, nor unless the oath be made of the debt by the creditor, except in cases where the creditor is absent, or under such circumstances that he cannot take the oath; and in such cases, the attorney or some competent person must make oath of personal knowledge of the existing indebtedness. From this judgment, the opposing creditors and the syndics appealed. In cases of opposition to the appointment of syndics, the question is not whether the proceedings before the notary shall be homologated, (which do not require a judgment of homologation,) but whether the opposition shall be sustained, on the ground that the syndics were not elected by a majority of legal votes. The proceedings of creditors before a notary, in appointing syndics, are not vitiated because some illegal votes are given. They are to be struck out from the proceedings. The creditor may prove his claim, and vote for syndics by proxy, or an agent, who can swear to the fact of the debt being due and owing, of his own knowledge. Any evidence which satisfies the notary of the authority of an agent to vote for syndics, is prima facie good, and when no objection is made, he cannot refuse the vote; but the notary is not to decide on the reality of the debts, and if he did, it would not conclude the other creditors. Creditors, not making opposition to votes for syndics before the notary, may do so within ten days after the proceedings are returned into court; but then the burden of proof is on the opposing creditor, to show the illegal votes. The principle, that claims of creditors on which they vote may be investigated previously to the homologation of the appointment of syndics, is confined to cases of forced surrender, according to the Spanish law. The statute of 1817, relating to voluntary surrenders, requires only ex parte evidence of the debts, previous to voting for syndics. The majority in amount, required to elect a syndic, when there are more than two candidates, is not an absolute majority of all the votes given, but only a plurality or the highest number. It is only on an opposition to the tableau of distribution, that the validity and relative rank of debts is to be finally and contradictorily tried between all the creditors. Morphy, for the syndics. 1. The opposition now made to the right of creditors, to present their claims and have them sworn to, by an agent or attorney in fact, and vote by proxy, should have been made before the notary, to enable the creditor whose claim and right was contested, to apply a remedy, either by appearing in person or perfecting the authority under which the agent acted. Seghers vs. His Creditors, 10 Martin, 544. 2. The provision of the Louisiana Code, article 3055, which authorises the creditors to appear successively before the notary, and which, it is contended, prevents opposition from being made before the notary, only applies to cases of a forced respite, which requires three-fourths of the creditors in number and amount to grant it. 3. The oath required by a creditor, in presenting his claim before the notary, need not be made in person. It may be done by an agent or attorney in fact. It is only received as prima facie evidence of the claim, at the time of voting; and the vote of the creditor for syndics can be given by proxy. 4. The opponents assert that Samory was elected by a majority of legal votes, and that he should have been declared the syndic. This they have not shown; they are bound as much to show, that his votes were founded on real debts and legally given, as we are on behalf of the syndics, who were declared to be legally elected. 5. A debt, evidenced by the note of the insolvent, is sufficient proof before the notary, to recognize the claim and allow the holder to vote thereon. 6. A creditor who swears to his debt, due on a contract for building, which the insolvent failed to execute, should be allowed to vote, although his claim may be afterwards disputed. 7. The strict proof, which the opponents in this case contend must be made, of all claims presented against the insolvent's estate, is only required to be made on the trial of the opposition that is made to it, contradictorily with all the creditors. In this case they are all plaintiffs and defendants, and then every claim that is contested, must be legally proved and substantiated. But the votes in this case for syndics were properly given, on preliminary and prima facie proofs and evidence, and Messrs. Being and Le Carpentier were duly appointed syndics. D. Seghers, for the opposing creditors. 1. The counsel for the syndics makes a mistake in applying the doctrines of 10 Martin, 54, to his case. The doctrine there laid down, only relates to opponents who have not made their objections at the meeting of creditors before the notary, to the votes given by proxy; but that case does not extend to the mode in which debts are to be proven. 2. The doctrine of opposing illegal votes, at the meeting before the notary, seems at variance with the 18th section of the act of 1817, concerning voluntary surrenders. It expressly provides, that this opposition shall be made before the court, by a written deposition. 2 Moreau's Digest, 429. 3. This court has declared in a subsequent part of the same volume, (10 Martin, 697,) in the same case, that it is the duty of the notary to record and send up the evidence, on which he receives the claims of the creditors, so that it can be acted upon by the court. 4. It is in vain the counsel for the syndics contends, that the provision in the Louisiana Code, article 3055 applies only to forced respites, when the creditors are only to meet successively, and put in their claims and votes without deliberating together; when by the 8th section of the insolvent act of 1817, the creditors are to be called in the manner, and within the time prescribed for respites, and the Louisiana Code, article 3056, says, "when the creditors refuse a respite, a cession of property ensues, and that the proceedings continue" as in case of a surrender. 5. The learned counsel admits, the oath of the creditor before the notary, either by himself or by proxy, is only prima facie evidence of the debt, and which admits the notary is incompetent to pass on contested claims. The law makes the votes of a majority of claims sufficient to elect the syndics; consequently, as the creditors all have a vital interest, that the property shall not go into unfaithful hands, they have a right to scrutinize these votes before the court, and see that they are all legal. 6. The insolvent act of 1817, section 14, provides that "at the meeting of creditors, the latter, after having certified upon oath their respective claims to be true, &c., shall proceed to the appointment of one or more syndics, &c." This involves two requisites: 1st. The oath to be taken by the creditor personally; and 2d. That it must be taken at the meeting, and before voting for syndics. It is as imperative that the creditor take the oath before voting, as it is, that the opposing creditor shall make his written deposition before the court, setting forth the nullity of the election of syndics, within ten days after such appointment. 7. The creditors cannot vote for syndics by proxy. The 3d section of the act of 1817, requires that the insolvent shall include in his schedule, the names of all his creditors, &c., and the 14th section says, these creditors are to come forward and certify on oath their respective claims, before they proceed to vote for syndics. The reason of this is, that fraud is presumed in cases of insolvency. 8 Louisiana Reports, 319. 8. The votes, or many of them, by which Bein and Le Carpentier were elected, being shown to be illegal, Claude Samory should be declared elected sole syndic. Sterrett, for the syndics, in conclusion. 1. The law contemplates, that the creditors should appoint some one or more persons, in whom they have full confidence, to be syndics, and take charge of the debtor's property. This they have done in the present case, as evinced by their votes, and Bein and Le Carpentier are clearly chosen, by a large majority. 2. The court below was, therefore, clearly wrong, in referring this matter to another meeting of creditors. It can only cause delay, for Bein and Le Carpentier would receive the same, or a greater number of votes, and in the meantime the property is wasting. The interest of all is to acquiesce in the result of the first meeting, which is believed to be legal, and as far as the opponents are concerned, they make, at best, but an improbable case. 3. It will be seen, by reference to the record, page 48, that Tricou and others of the opposing creditors withdrew their opposition to Bein and Le Carpentier as syndics. These creditors represent, in their own right, (and one of them as agent,) claims, on which they voted at the meeting, to the amount of eighty-three thousand five hundred dollars. These votes were given to Samory alone; and deduct this from the remainder given for him at the meeting, and but thirteen thousand two hundred and eighty-one dollars remain. The proceedings should remain as they were returned from the notary. BULLARD, J., delivered the opinion of the court. This is an opposition to the appointment of syndics, on the ground that the nomination was not legally made before the notary in the case.The 18th section of the act of 1817, relative to voluntary surrenders, authorises such opposition within ten days after the appointment of syndics. Before we proceed to examine the particular objections to the proceedings had before the notary in this case, we will remark that the preceding section of that act requires that a copy of the proces verbal of the deliberations of the creditors, should be filed in court, and it shall no longer be necessary to proceed to the homologation of such deliberations in the case.The appointment of syndics does not require the sanction of the court, and in case of opposition, the question is not whether the proceedings shall be homologated, but whether the opposition shall be sustained; or, in other words, the opposing creditors must show that the persons returned by the notary, as syndics, were not elected by a majority of legal votes. It appears by the notary's return that creditors representing an amount of one hundred and seventy-two thousand five hundred and eighty-five dollars, voted for Bein and Le Carpentier. The next highest candidate is C. Samory, who received votes to the amount of ninety-six thousand seven hundred and eighty-one dollars. The opposition cannot be sustained, unless the opposing creditors show that the syndics returned, received so many illegal votes as if rejected, would leave them with a minority. It cannot be pretended that the whole proceedings are to be annulled, because some illegal votes were received. Such votes may be rejected, but if the syndics returned as elected have still a majority, independently of them, the opposition grounded on the illegality of the election, must fall. The opposing creditors must, therefore, show that Bein and Le Carpentier received illegal votes, representing more than seventy-five thousand eight hundred dollars of debts, the difference between the vote of Samory and theirs. The opposition in this case rests mainly on the principle contended for by the counsel, that no oath by proxy, can legally qualify a creditor to vote for syndic, and that the pretended powers of attorney, produced by such proxies, are insufficient. That the debt may be proved by the oath of an agent or proxy, in these preliminary proceedings, has often been recognized by this court, whenever the proxy swears to the fact, as of his own knowledge. There may be cases in which the principal is personally ignorant of the existence of the debt, as when sales are made by factors for and in the name of principals living abroad. We cannot admit the principle contended for by the opposing creditor, that the power of attorney should contain or express authority to swear for his constituent. In the case referred to by him in the Louisiana Reports, 425, Foucher vs. His Creditors, we held that an agent could not make the oath required from an insolvent debtor as preliminary to his surrender, and to obtain a stay of proceedings against his person and property. It is manifestly impossible for an agent to swear that the insolvent has withheld no part of his property from his creditors. That is a matter which the insolvent alone can know. There is a great difference between swearing for and in the name of another, and swearing in support of anothers' rights upon facts within the personal knowledge of the affiant. But it is contended, on the part of the syndics, that no objection was made before the notary to that mode of proof, and that this court held that the case of Seghers vs. His Creditors, 10 Mart. 54, that they would not listen to objections which the opponents had an opportunity to make before the votes were received, and failed to make. To this the counsel for the opposing creditors answers: 1st. That in the case alluded to there had already been a meeting of the creditors, and the proceedings had been homologated without opposition; and 2nd. the creditors since the promulgation of the Code of Louisiana, are no longer required to meet all at the same time, but may appear successively before the notary, and that they have no opportunity to make objections. It does not appear to us that the first answer is satisfactory, or that the cases can be well distinguished. By the homologation spoken of in that case, could only be meant that no opposition had been made, because the statute as we have seen does not require that the proceedings should be expressly sanctioned by the court. If no objection is made before the notary, the only inquiry on an opposition is, whether the notary erred in permitting persons assuming to be creditors to vote. He has before him the bilan containing a sworn list of the creditors, and he is bound to require that the debts should be sworn to before any person is permitted to vote. Any evidence which satisfies him of the authority of an agent, is prima facie good, and when no objection is made we do not well see how he could take upon himself to refuse a vote. He is not to decide on the reality of the debts, and if he did, it would not conclude the creditors. But it is said further that no opportunity is offered to make objections, as the creditors are now permitted to appear successively and vote. The statute contemplates a meeting and nothing prevents the creditors from all coming together, or any one of them who may have an interest in so doing, from remaining and making objections as they come forward to vote. If they chose not to make any objections at the time, and afterwards make opposition, they must show that persons voted who had in fact no right to do so, and the burden of proof is on the opposing creditor. If we deviate from the rule settled in the case alluded to, we transfer the contest relative to the syndicship from the notary's to the court room. The case of Planters' Bank vs. Lanusse, also referred to in 10 Mart. 690, is entirely different from this. That was a case of forced surrender, which the court decided was not governed by the act of 1817. The principle recognized in that case, that the claims of creditors on which they vote, may be investigated previously to the homologation of the appointment, is confined to cases of forced surrenders according to the Spanish law; but even in that case it is coupled with the condition that the notary must record the proofs each party presents, and return it to the court. The statute of 1817, required only ex parte evidence of the debts, previous to voting for syndic. By the majority in amount required for the election of syndic, we understand, not an absolute majority of all the votes given, but when there are more than two candidates a majority in the popular sense of the word, that is the highest number or plurality of votes; such is understood to have been the Spanish law, and recognized by this court, in 4 Martin's Report, 307. The opposition in this case, is to the legality of the proceedings, so far as the election of Bein and Le Carpentier as syndics, is concerned. It is not, therefore, important to inquire into the legality of votes given to other candidates. It is in our opinion only on opposition to a tableau of distribution, that the validity and relative rank of the debts is to be tried finally and contradictorily between all the creditors, and the law does not contemplate such a scrutiny as preliminary to the nomination of syndics. Suppose creditors did not attend the meeting of creditors, it could not be pretended that they would on the final question upon the tableau, be precluded from contesting the claims of those creditors who had attended and voted, and whose votes had been afterwards declared legal upon an opposition like the present. According to this view of the case, and of the law which is to govern cases of this kind, even admitting that the objection is well taken to the right of Millaudon to vote on his claim, for unliquidated damages arising ex contractu, and that the vote of Reynolds, Byrne & Co., ought to be rejected as double and inconsistent, still Bein and Le Carpentier would remain with more votes than any other candidates; and in our opinion, the opposing creditors have not made good their opposition. It is, therefore, ordered, adjudged and decreed, that the judgment of the District Court be annulled and reversed; the opposition overruled and dismissed, and that the costs of the opposition in the court below be paid by the opposing creditors, and those of the appeal to be paid by the estate.
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13-inch Retina MacBook Pro Review (Late 2012)by Anand Lal Shimpi on 11/13/2012 2:53 AM EST
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MrCromulent - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkThanks for the thorough review! I was really looking forward to the 13" version of the rMBP as a possible desktop replacement machine for development, but I guess I'm going to pass this year.
Multi-monitor performance (internal display plus 2 external ones) would be excruciatingly bad, I presume? Or is it acceptable because most of the stuttering seems to be caused by CPU issues instead of a GPU bottleneck? Reply
Freakie - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkI would encourage you to pass. This 13" rMBP has COMPLETELY lost it's "Pro" name. Dual-core with no dedicated GPU, only 8GB of RAM, paltry amounts of storage, and a screen that's only good for resolution, not for quality, makes this a stupid choice for any art professional. The thing can't even run a Safari window with Facebook on it without dropping below 30fps! Add the $1,700 price tag to all of this and you have to be out of your mind to buy it. And trying to multi-monitor is going to drive you nuts performance wise.
And now for a slight rant on the Review it's self:
"You don't sacrifice display quality at all in the move to the smaller panel. Brightness, contrast and color reproduction are all great."
This line particularly bugged me, which shows Anand's bias for Apple yet again. Brightness is good, not great, and color reproduction is horrendous. You DO sacrifice a lot in switching to these displays. Artwork on this display is color suicide. And I haven't seen a computer screen have after images like you described in well over 6 years. In my opinion quality has gone WAY down.
So not only is your built-in display crappy for work, but if you plug another screen in then suddenly you've maxed out your CPU's performance, and that's before you've even started working.
I'm sorry, Anand, but this entire review seems to dock points off again and again, and yet you still manage to say that it's nearly perfect in your conclusion. While I do appreciate that you've been more forward towards issues on the devices in your Apple reviews as of the last few that you've done, in the end it seems like you just conveniently forget about them and write apologetically about them where as Dustin would, and does, expose all of a laptop's flaws and strengths and does a good job of not sugar coating or glazing over problems. When Dustin sees a machine not living up to what it is supposed to be, he doesn't pull back any punches and calls it out. It seems obvious that this machine is not "Pro" in any way imaginable and I really feel that should have been pointed out. Reply
guidryp - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkNice Rant. Too bad it is nonsense.
Horrendous color reproduction?
The screen has the best contrast of any tested and the second best color accuracy. Also this is an IPS screen with superior color stability vs angle of view. Much better than the TN screens that occupy the vast majority of laptops. It is a fantastic screen in terms of resolution, color accuracy, contrast and color stability.
Image retention is the only real fault and if it was a significant issue, return it.
As far as it losing "Pro" status for not having quad core/discrete GPU, that is no change, it was like that last year as well. If this is your definition of Pro, I am sure you can find a suitable cheap Dell that has quad core.
Bottom line. I do think it is probably early to jump to this Retina Model because of potential performance hiccups, and you are better off waiting for a Haswell model. But there is no need to resort to nonsense ranting to state that. Reply
Freakie - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkIPS means next to nothing. It's just one small part of the entire range of components and technologies that go into making a good display. IPS is chosen for high resolution displays for different reasons other than color.
And it's Delta E value gains nothing from being second best, as best is so far ahead of it it's ridiculous. Anandtech's method of obtaining Delta E is taking the best value after repeating the test multiple times, and with how close it is to so many other monitors, and how even a screen being on for 5 minutes versus 10 minutes can affect screen color tests small amounts, it actually isn't that hard to summarize the test results by saying that it essentially has the same color representation as the 5 notebooks behind it.
And Color Space is VERY important for artwork. It's nice to have a good Delta E but without a wide color space, you're still shooting yourself in the foot and your results will be noticeably inconsistent and will require a lot more fiddling within your editing programs to get right.
And my definition of Pro is what the MBP used to be, a powerful laptop that could reliably be used for professional work when you aren't at your desk and that sacrificed some weight and size in order to deliver the power that you need. This MBP does not live up to the MBP name and should just be a regular Macbook (but of course they got rid of those and just turned the MBP's into normal Macbooks).
But no thank you on the Dell :) I wouldn't never own one of their consumer models and their professional models are rather pricey. I'd rather just Build-To-Order a nice ASUS and pay the extra $100 for the 95% NTSC Gamut Matte screen. Reply
guidryp - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - link95% NTSC screens are just about useless for 99.99% of users.
We live in an sRGB/Rec. 709 world, and that should be the goal for most screens, and the Retina MBP is very close to this much more important standard. Actually Anand should actually report the sRGB match in his reviews since it is so much more important for most users.
Wider gamut than sRGB screens simply cause more problems than benefits, causing jarring color inaccuracy as you move back and forth between color managed and non color managed applications.
It is a fallacy to simply think, a bigger number is always better when it comes to color gamut. Reply
Freakie - Thursday, November 15, 2012 - linkIt's not for 99.99% of users, MacBook Pro's were meant for professionals, but now because Apple wants more money, they got rid of the regular MacBooks and put crappier hardware in their Pro's. So for the people who buy the Pro's because they need a Pro machine, a 95% NTSC DOES matter.
And even in the sRBG the Retina displays suck. 64% of AdobeRBG is still below 90% sRBG so it doesn't get any extra points even if you wanted to try to argue that for some reason sRBG is better. And I would disagree that wider than sRBG is problematic, especially when switching between color managed situations. Yes, switching from a non-calibrated screen from a calibrated one is weird if the non-calibrated one sucks, but who cares? The whole point of having the wide gamut, calibrated screen is so that your work comes out correct, not so that your browser window looks right -_-
And it's not fallacy :P When you're working on something that you're going to print, or display through high resolution means like digital signage or movies on a projector... Those devices and mediums that your are going to be displaying it through will have wide gamuts. Obviously print has a wide gamut, and most digital signage uses the same 32"+ high resolution high gamut displays, and a professional movie projector for films will also have the same. So if you work on your project on an sRBG screen you will be sorry when you see it displayed/printed elsewhere. Reply
jmelgaard - Thursday, November 15, 2012 - linkI Seem to be confused here... But you seem to imply that you only belong in the professional segment if you use your computer for graphical work?...
Damn... And here I thought I used mine for Professional Application Development... BUMMER!... Ill better start looking for another job, one with Pictures and Colors and Gamuts and Colors and OMG my head hurts now... Reply
WebJester - Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - linkI see you glossed over the comment about calibration. Reply
aguilpa1 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkColor reproduction was only part of his reasons for noting that there should be a distinct difference between a Macbook and a MacbookPro. I have to agree with him. The Pro was for Professionals that did not mind the extra weight or size as long as they could get the options and upgrades they needed. The fact that you mention stupidly that maybe he should go get a Dell if he wants a 4 core CPU should slap you in the face as obvious that the MacbookPro is not a Pro if a cheaper model offers what it does not. Reply
TEAMSWITCHER - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkI have been waiting for this review, because I already upgraded from an older 15" dual-core MacBook Pro to this laptop. I did notice the minor "choppiness" when scrolling web pages, but it's not intolerable. I was expecting the HD4000 to be a total dog at 3D. To my surprise it wasn't all bad. To be honest though, I play mostly older games.
The display is easily...hands down...no questions about it...the best I have ever used. Game over - thank you for playing. Now, when I look at non-retina displays, I immediately notice the difference - and I don't like what I see. I desperately want a 27" Retina Thunderbolt display. Maybe they can add discrete graphics to the display for the best of both worlds. Please Apple, make this happen.
But where this laptop really shines is it's portability. Having used a 15" Pro laptop for the last eight years, the difference is striking. I was tempted by the 13" MacBook Air, but the grey bezel around the screen felt like a step back from the edge-to-edge glass that I have grown to love. This feels every bit like the Pro Machine I have been using for the last three years. I can't express how comforting it was to drop so much weight, yet retain the same great keyboard, trackpad, quality construction, and performance. Truly an amazing feat and why the "Pro" moniker is deserved.
This isn't the laptop for everyone, but for me...web browsing, coding, and just always having a great computer at my finger tips...it's pretty close to perfect. Reply
KPOM - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkThe 13" MacBook Pro always had a dual core processor and never had discrete graphics. The Retina version is no different in that regard. If it isn't a "Pro" than neither is the non-Retina version.
As an 11" MacBook Air user, the weight difference and extra thickness are more noticeable to me. Hopefully Apple comes out with an 11" MacBook Pro with Retina Display, since it does look very nice (I saw one in the store and it blew away the screen on my Air). Reply
Arbee - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkAgreed. Much as the original Air was basically an engineering placeholder waiting for SNB to make it good, this seems to be a placeholder waiting for at least Haswell, and possibly Broadwell. Reply
jeffbui - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkAnand, your aspect ratio chart is off. The MBPs are still 16:10 Reply
jeffbui - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkOops, looks like you switched the 16:9 chart with the 16:10 chart. Reply
iwod - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkI wonder why Apple do not all stick to the same 16:10 ratio. The New iMac is 16:9, while all notebook are 16:10. Reply
Aenean144 - Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - linkiMacs have >20 inch screens. When you get that big, there's enough vertical screen space so that wider aspect ratio screens are tolerable.
For smaller screen laptops, vertical space is at a premium. 16:10 is at best a compromise to me. Going to 16:9 would make it less usable. Reply
yserr - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkI have a MBP 15" (no Retina). I'm willing to give up GPU or quad, but not both, for portability.
Do you think haswell will bring quad core to the 13" MBPr.
I think with the dismiss of the 17" and the trend to smaller, light devices. The 15" will be the new 17" and the 13" will be the new 15".
The 15" rMBP has two soldered ram banks the 13" rMBP has one.
Are there 16GB modules which are reasonable priced for one bank (which apple could offer)?
I will wait for haswell and than decide between 13" and 15".
My dream machine will be 13" rMBP with 16GB Ram and quad.... so I hope haswell will deliver my dream :-) Reply
iwod - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkQuad Core as standard and 2x Graphics Improvement. That is what i am hoping for as well. But with the 4x increase in Pixel count i doubt even Haswell is even good enough in Graphics Department. I just hope Broadwell will bring at least 3x performance over Haswell. Reply
yserr - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkAt least you see here (http://bit.ly/PalAfy - Haswell Preview) on the haswell slides that they will support 4k and High Resolution Displays. Lets see if they can deliver the performance needed for that. No question Broadwell will be better than Haswell. I hope Haswell will be fast enough for my needs. Reply
Kevin G - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkActually Ivy Bridge does support 4K displays if they are being driving by two DP.
Haswell will implement DP 1.2 so it will be able to drive a 4K resolution display over a single cable. The GT3 + eDRAM versions of Haswell should be able to handle accelerated GUI without much issue. Gaming on the other hand at such high resolutions is something even high end GPU's (Radeon 7970, GTX 680) are struggling with. Reply
jeffbui - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkHow are you displaying wifi xmit speed in OS X? Thanks. Reply
timmyj9 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linklooks like the bands for the wifi test might be the other way around
greater range and less throughput over 5GHz (comp. to 2.4GHz)? Reply
iwod - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkI was about to post that. the 2.4Ghz is faster then 5Ghz and they concludes Very good WiFi? Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkThanks for the correction :)
Take care,
Anand Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkOption + click on the WiFi indicator to display the additional details. Generally speaking, option-clicking on various things in OS X tends to reveal more information.
Take care,
Anand Reply
Henk Poley - Monday, November 19, 2012 - linkHold Option and click the WiFi menu icon. Reply
Henk Poley - Monday, November 19, 2012 - linkAh doh, comment threads wrap around page boundaries on this site.. Reply
Galatian - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - link
The MBA may be lighter, but Apple definitely blurred the line between the MBA and MBP with the 13-inch Retina.
You know the 256GB SSD 13" 2012 MacBook Air runs at 1362€ on the Apple Store(with Apple on Campus rebate). The 11" is even less with 1275€. For a very similar specced 13" rMacBook Pro I'll have to spend 1802€ which is roughly 500€ more. I can understand the lack of discrete graphic card but not the lack of quad cpu at this price point. As much as I would like to have a retina display, as I use my MacBook Air mostly in university to write stuff and look at my ebooks, 1802€ get's you actually in the territory of "high" performance notebooks. even then bigger 15" rMacBook Pro is "only" 200€ but in my eyes bring so much more value on the table. Either the 15" is priced to low or the 13" to high IMHO. Reply
hvv - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkAgreed. Personally I think Apple made far too many compromises to get the device retina enabled. No 16GB Ram BTO option, No quad core option, no discreet graphics. What's left is essentially a thicker, heavier MBA with retina screen and some additional ports. Even the CPUs in the 13" rmbp and the 2012 mba's (notably absent from the perf charts above...) are similar in real performance. Oi. Reply
jramskov - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - link"Once again, UI elements, text, windows and icons are also rendered at 4x their size so everything remains legible, but things like images and videos remain unscaled allowing you to fit more content on your screen at the same time."
This makes the machine much more interesting. I thought everything was scaled and hence made the machine "unsuitable" for things like working in Lightroom.
Do I understand correctly that the images I work on in Lightroom will not be affected by the scaling? Reply
Spunjji - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkAs of a few days ago Adobe updated Lightroom to include Retina support in the Develop window. That means the UI will scale while the image remains at a 1 for 1 pixel mapping and is unaffected by scaling. Reply
piroroadkill - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkIn your chart noting the different screen ratios, you have Retina MacBook Pro under 16:9 - clearly incorrect, 2560x1600 and 2880x1800 for the 13 and 15 inch respectively are 8:5 ratios (16:10 in common terms). Reply
Beerfloat - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkA MacBook Pro needs a GPU, period. Sure, performance of the Intel solution is getting stronger, and may soon reach parity on the low end. But more importantly, the mature driver and ecosystem that Nvidia brings will still be an advantage for some generations to come.
This kind of corner cutting is almost acceptable in the Air. But not in a Pro. Reply
Spunjji - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkAgreed. Shame, but definitely a compromise too far. Reply
mayankleoboy1 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - link" I definitely noticed the missing cores (and decrease in clock speed compared to the higher spec'd 15),"
What are you doing that makes use of 4 real cores ? And is the 200mhz speed difference really noticable ?
I would say that in normal surfing+office apps, a SSD would make all the differences between CPU redundant... Reply
jramskov - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkLightroom would be one answer. Reply
mayankleoboy1 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkBut does Anand even use it ? Regularly ? Reply
tipoo - Friday, December 07, 2012 - linkWhy would someone buy this for "surfing+office apps"? It's meant to be a machine for professionals and high end users, hence Pro. Reply
smurray - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkWhat app is being used to measure the FPS of the UI during things like Safari scrolling? I currently have an 13" rMBP w/ the upgraded i7 CPU and am curious what my results would be compared to what was experienced in the review. Reply
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkFor instantaneous tests like Safari (where you see the speedometer-styled FPS indicator), we use Quartz Debug. For average framerates over a period of time we use the GL Injection Tool. Reply
James5mith - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkOne of the biggest advances the Windows OS made was moving from a strictly CPU driven windows management interface, to a GPU accelerated one. (Vista, Win7, Win8)
It stopped things like the classic "trail of artifact windows" you could do when your old WindowsXP and earlier machines were bogged down. Since the desktop was drawn by the CPU, it wouldn't refresh properly until some CPU cycles were freed up.
Seems Apple did not learn from the past, and is now doomed to repeat it. Reply
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkActually Apple introduced GPU accelerated window composition with Quartz Extreme nearly 10 years ago, a few years ahead of Microsoft.
However there are several layers to GPU acceleration. The earliest solutions could do window composition on the GPU, but the contents of the windows themselves were still generated by the CPU. Since then both MS and Apple have been moving more and more of the workload on to the GPU as it makes sense to do so. But no one is 100% offloaded, so the CPU still plays a part and consequently can still be a bottleneck. Reply
michal1980 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkThe bias is strong Reply
solipsism - Saturday, November 17, 2012 - linkYes, the bias is strong... in you.

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cjs150 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkBut not yet. One maybe two generations to go before perfect.
1. One obvious use of this will be to watch movies on go (especially on long business trips) but once again Apple ignores 1080p resolution (if there someone at Apple who hates this resolution, because they try and ignore it in every device they produce)
2. Card reader is flaky - is it because of chassis flex or just a bad reader?
3. storage needs to be bigger, I gues next generation will be 256gb.
4. A bit extra horse power obviously needed, but probably not a lot.
The real question though is as tablets get better, is there any point in the 13" Mac? Reply
xTRICKYxx - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkWhat software do you use to test the framerates of the browser? Reply
Jorange - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - link$1700 and laggy UI. Come on Apple fans admit that you buy their products for the image, and for fear of being seen as gauche in the eyes of your vapid clique. The best Apple zealots are those whom purchase the things on credit, look how wealthy I am, whilst paying off the monthly installments:) Reply
boblozano - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkThis is the first review that I've read that captures the essence of this machine -- it is a machine of excellent balance, and in that balance lies it's real reason for being.
Came from a mid-2011 mbair (1.8 i7, 256gb), and before that a mid-2009 mbp 15. Workload is a mix of writing, photo editing (lr, ps, etc.), and some video creation. Lots of travel. Went to the mbair after good friends with a heavy dev emphasis swore it was excellent. It was/is.
Considered the 15 rMBP since the price is effectively the same, and there is obviously more of just about everything. But size for travel and general mobility was a significant concern (the air allowed me to switch from a full-size backpack to a much smaller messenger bag).
The reason why I've settled on 13 as just about perfect for my present usage is simple: with the increasing number of full-screen apps, 13" is just about perfect for writing in a full screen, while 15 just feels overwrought. Even better, with retina the photo and video editing remains very usable.
With that as a background, the 13" rMBP was a real step up in everything that I liked about the air, with hardly any compromise (small bit of weight). Ended up with the 2.9 I7, 512gb. Everything I do is faster, better (though definitely not cheaper), and that screen just makes you smile when opening it up to work. It is good enough that I'm even going back to using the device open on a stand (trying the new twelve south height-adjustable stand) when docked.
Sure it would be nice to have 4 cores and a discrete gpu (particularly for rendering), but as of now there's no doubt it would have compromised mobility and/or battery life. About the only indisputable criticism is one of value, but such is life.
Undoubtedly (and always) there'll be something much better down the road, maybe even only a year from now. Good. But as of today, this is the best computing device I've ever used on a daily basis. Reply
caleblloyd - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkAnand - the Primary Storage for the 13in MBA that you have listed on the table on the first page should be 128GB. Reply
repoman27 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - link"In reality USB 3.0 is good for about 400 - 500MB/s (3.2Gbps - 4.0Gbps)..."
The actual reality is that USB 3.0 provides a physical layer gross bit rate of 5 Gbit/s, and a physical layer net bit rate of 4 Gbit/s due to 8b/10b encoding. The net bit rate delivered to the application layer is unlikely to ever exceed 80% of that, or 400 MB/s, in the real world. Even using UASP, which clearly looks to be the case in these tests, I've never seen peak SuperSpeed USB transfer rates much in excess of 350 MB/s. USB 3.0 is good for 300 - 350 MB/s with the hardware shipping at this point, although we may see the upper bound approach 400 MB/s in the future.
"This is Intel's most capable Thunderbolt SKU as it takes four PCIe 2.0 lanes combined with DisplayPort and muxes them into four Thunderbolt channels (2 up/2 down) with two DP outputs."
This sentence has some problems as well. The DSL3510L has connections on the back end for 4 PCIe 2.0 lanes, 2 DisplayPort 1.1a sources and 1 DisplayPort 1.1a sink. On the front side it has four 10 Gbit/s, full-duplex Thunderbolt channels, 2 per port (i.e. 2 up/2 down per port or 4 up/4 down per controller). Each port can also operate in legacy DisplayPort signaling mode when a DisplayPort device is connected directly.
On another note, it's frustrating that Apple failed again at the SDXC card reader, and it appears to be a mechanical issue once again. iFixit's teardown photos seem to have omitted it, but if Apple used the same controller as in the 15-inch MBPR, then it's a Broadcom controller that supports SD 3.0 features such as SDXC and UHS-I paired with a PCIe 1.1 x1 back end. This should make it far more capable than a USB 2.0 based solution, but no, instead they made it useless because half the time it doesn't read a card at all when inserted. Reply
repoman27 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkAnd just to further clarify, Thunderbolt does not really mux DP and PCIe signals, it takes the packets from both protocols and transports them via a common switching fabric, so that wording is slightly misleading. Reply
tipoo - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkIn my time with these, I find there is just a bit of UI lag to most things compared to an Air or the regular Macbook Pros, most of the time it's hard to even notice unless they are side by side. The calender flip animation and sometimes the green button re-size are particularly painful, you can literally count out the frames on the former. On the 15" you can force it to use the dGPU on AC power which fixes that, but there is no fallback for the 13". Reply
tipoo - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkSpeaking of which, if switching to the dGPU fixes some of the lag does that mean more of the rendering pipeline is given to the Nvidia chip unlike the HD4000, as otherwise that would put a hole in the single threaded performance theory? Reply
sputnik78 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - link"There's not much you can do here other than wait for faster hardware or buy the fastest CPU available on whatever system you're considering. "
Yes there is. Use Firefox or Chrome.
I could not believe the depth of detail in the investigation of the scrolling in Safari issue without the simple test to swap out with Firefox or Chrome and see how much of the problem is Safari rather than the OS/Hardware.
With Firefox, you can enable and disable GPU accelerated UI as well, to see if that helps or hurts.
My experience with all three browsers is that each can have various performance issues with some websites and situations, but that when one does, one of the others tends to be OK. Reply
MrCromulent - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkFirefox doesn't even have Retina support yet, does it? Last time I heard it was planned for version 18.
Disabling hardware acceleration in Firefox would probably just result in even worse performance since it is enabled by default and the CPU single-thread performance is going to get even more maxed out otherwise. Reply
paravorheim - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkDear Anand,
you mentioned in both the Intel S3700 and 13" rMBP reviews that OS X did not respond well to high IO latency. Could you expand on what you meant by that? Or is the explanation too complicated to put into layman's terms? Reply
AmdInside - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkI don't see how this is a much better option for someone who travels a lot and uses it mainly for typing. I love my MBA and only wish would be that it had more RAM and IPS display. If i had to do it all over again, I think I would still buy the MBA over the rMBP. If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I guess I'd go with the rMBP though. Reply
thefizzle656 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkIMO what is wrong with the 13" rMBP is not just that the word "Pro" doesn't at all describe the hardware specs and capabilities of the machine, but that it is so so overpriced for what you get. Even Apple Fanbois are have been criticizing Apple for the complete ripoff that the 13" rMBP is. Reply
spronkey - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkYou know, I have to agree with those who say there's a bit of Apple bias going on here. So many important criteria here have been glossed over - remember the pricing of this machine puts it far out of reach for most 'consumers', who go and buy $500-700 dell machines. It's a high-end part for a high-end prosumer/professional.
The bottom line is - 8GB of RAM as a maximum ceiling (note - my *2008* MacBook Pro had the same limit) is far too low, and Anand you of all people should know that in the usable life of this machine (lets say 3 years), that limit is going to be hit - especially when it's not uncommon for web browsers with media-heavy content to eat 2+GB. And the move to 64-bit for stuff like the Adobe creative suite, which is a common use case for this particular machine, will eat even more RAM. I'm running 8GB on my MBP at the moment and I max it out very frequently.
I'm also not sure how you can recommend this over the 13" Air. It's much more expensive, the hardware is largley similar, performance isn't *that* much better, it doesn't offer anything in terms of upgradability other than Thunderbolt connectivity, and it's bigger and heavier. Not to mention in the real world, in 2012, it's a laggier experience.
Now, lets imagine an alternate universe where Apple decided not to shave quite so much off the size of the previous 13" pro, and instead gave us a quad core i5/i7 and a couple of RAM slots. Perhaps even a dedicated GPU and a 2.5" bay. Now that would be an improvement. What we have here is an expensive Macbook Air with a pretty display for text, that makes almost everything else look awful. Reply
seapeople - Saturday, November 17, 2012 - linkWhen will we stop the insanity with this complaint about memory. Times are different, memory requirements are not going to quadruple again in the next four years. The world is not gearing up for Microsoft Gargantuan 9 which will require 8GB of RAM to load the desktop. If anything the world is going more mobile, and memory requirements will likely stagnate. Consider than an Ipad has just one GB of RAM, and they are selling about as many of those as casual consumer PC's nowadays, and you can see where we're heading.
Furthermore, any browser worth its salt that's pushing 2GB of RAM based on some standard media heavy tasks will drop that RAM in an instant without a huge user experience impact if you start nearing a system limit. It's just caching everything in sight because it sees that you have 16 GB of RAM; it doesn't mean your system would grind to a halt with only 8! Reply
TEAMSWITCHER - Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - linkI'm not so sure....
If you take a 13" MacBook Air and upgrade the specs with a 2.0GHz processor, 8 GB of ram, and a 256 GB Flash, you''ll spend $1699. You can order the entry level 13" MacBook Pro with Retina display from Mac Mall for $1630. Yes, the MacBook Air would have twice the flash storage, but the 13" Pro would have a Retina Display and slightly faster processor - plus an extra Thunderbolt port and HDMI port . If you consider the trade-offs, the 13" MacBook Pro is actually priced more-or-less the same.
If you're warehousing tons of data on your laptop 256 vs. 128 Gigabytes of flash isn't going to be much of an improvement. But if the Retina Display is more important to you, the 13" Pro is the way to go. It's kind of cool that Apple is offering much more in the way of choices right now than ever before.
BTW, I have a 13" MacBook Pro with Retina Display and it's easily the best laptop I have ever owned. The scrolling choppiness is noticeable, but far, far from unbearable. The screen really is a vast improvement over anything that has ever been offered in this size of laptop. Reply
geok1ng - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkApples decision to glue the non-serviciable battery to the chassis has made the retina MBPs the worts case scenario in a long series of impronvingly unrecicleable products by Apple.
The batterys are rated for 300 charges. That is about 2 years usage.
Since there is no easy or safe way to replace the abttery, these retina MBPs are destined to remain plugged toa charger for the remaining of their short life.
And it irks me no end that not a single reviewer outside IFixIt has pointed towards this major "it is not a bug, it is a feature".
The retina MBPs are the epithome of planned obsolescence, and shame on the reviewers who miss this crucial information. Reply
tipoo - Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - link"The batterys are rated for 300 charges"
To be fair Apples batteries are rated to 1000 cycles due to some charging circuitry. Reply
whiteonline - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkAs noted, the machine is a tradeoff.
I originally purchased a 13 MBP in early 2011. Loved the size, but the screen resolution was unusable for me. So I wound up getting the high-res 15". What I really wanted was a high resolution 13" MacBook Pro.
And here it is.
It's not as powerful as the 15", but the portability compensates for that. Price....well, would have loved for it to be less. But I'm not going to find another 13" notebook with a super high 16x10 resolution screen anywhere. Reply
Zodiark1593 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkEven though this sounds almost blasphemous, I wish both the rMBPs had the option for standard, high capacity HDDs as even a 512 MB SSD is way too small for me. I know there's always the external HDD, but extras like that, in my opinion, defeats the purpose of mobility more so than weight. Reply
phexac - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkThis actually includes a lot of programs, especially Microsoft office. Text is blurry and boxy at the same time and far inferior to a regular resolution computer. So yes, for the most basic tasks it works great. If you have to use any program not specifically designed for it (really most programs at this point in time) it's quite a poor experience. Go to the Apple store and fire up Office on this or the 15" version. You'll see the difference immediately.
Due this shortage or properly optimized software, the retina macbooks remain a gimmick. I would actually like to one, but I do not consider them useable just yet. I will probably take a few years for software to fully catch up. Reply
robco - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkhttp://www.anandtech.com/show/6318/office-for-mac-...
The list just keeps growing. I think most app developers understand HiDPI displays are the future and are working on updates. Reply
akdj - Thursday, November 15, 2012 - linkNot sure where you've heard or seen this---I'm using the MS suite; Excel, Word and Power Point. They don't look bad AT ALL!!! In fact, the text in Word/Excel is amazing--the UI isn't 'blurry' or 'boxy' period! I use them all day, everyday. Perhaps one of my latest MS updates fixed an earlier issue...as I've only had my 15" rMBP for about ten weeks
As well--I use the entire creative suite from Adobe: Premier, After Effects, PS, LR, Illustrator and In Design---Acrobat Pro as well. All. Perfectly. Usable...and unbelievably FAST on these computers!!! This pixelization, fuzzy, blocky/boxy embellishment is ridiculous--I've YET to find a professional app to be 'un-usable' or even bad enough to complain.
The WWW is a bit different. Lots of 'low rez' photos that're obviously not ready for the high resolution these monitors bring us---but it's coming, as are 'official' updates to premier software like MS & Adobe. In the mean time--I'm sure most will find them 'just fine'
Jeremy Reply
just4U - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkI was just looking at the cost of the one there and geez.. $1700 /w a dual core cpu and integrated graphics? That's insane... I don't care how good that 13" screen is.. It's simply not worth the price their asking. Reply
mike71 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkYou forgot to mention since June 2012 Apple has quietly dropped the audio line-in from all non-15 inch models. So Macbook Air and 13 inch pro's do not feature the same combi audio input/output that existed in previous models. I can only think Apple did this to save a few pennies and increase profits. Reply
nerd1 - Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - linkI just cannot understand Apple's spec selection for this laptop.
They are selling this as 'Pro' laptop, with fixed 8GB ram, 128GB starting storage space (and HUGE overcharge for slightly more useful 256GB) and no external graphics.
I don't think this is any better than recent full-HD ultrabooks from other brands, usually around $1000 price tag recently. 1080p is more than enough on 13" screen, and they provide cheaper storage upgrade option (256GB mSATA drives are now cheap around $200), and some even has external GPU. And face it - 2.5Ghz i5 won't give a huge performance edge over 1.8Ghz i7 ULV with turbo boost for most applications.
Yes, I know it will still sell like hotcakes. Reply
lukarak - Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - linkThat`s the only problem. Simply put, a dealbreaker, especially for mac users , that inherently have an above average need for virtual machines.
Everything else is expected. Reply
bji - Thursday, November 15, 2012 - linkAnand - the image retention flaw on the 15 inch rMBP is a real issue. I have written you several emails asking if you'd like to address this using your testing tools but never received a response. You haven't acknowledged this issue in this review either.
Is the 13 inch rMBP subject to the same image retention flaw? Reply
bji - Thursday, November 15, 2012 - linkWHOOPS - I am wrong. You did address this, I just didn't see that paragraph somehow.
It would still be great if you used the tools at your disposal to analyze this. There are reports that the heat of the display (air conditioned versus warm room) have an impact, and of course it's well known that only LG displays suffer this issue. Having all of that confirmed by a reputable reviewer would be great. Reply
edgarperez - Saturday, November 24, 2012 - linkI am trying to decide on a replacement for my 2gb mba 13" . The UI references including "Also if you're looking to minimize UI frame rate issues as much as possible you're going to want the upgraded CPU (although that still won't eliminate low UI frame rates)." truly scar me away from the rMBA. I am on my machine 12 hours a day regularly. the thought of the UI lagging scrolling on applications This is not something i noticed when i looked at the machine in the store but certainly something that would drive me batty once i have noticed it. I think I am going to have to think more about the MBA vs. the MBP non retina and pass on the retina for now. Reply
Zink - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - linkIt's not really lag, just low frame rates. It works just as fast as it should but looks a pit more choppy while moving. Reply
marioyohanes - Friday, December 07, 2012 - linkWell, I'm one of those people who always complaint about "Pro" in 13" MBP/rMBP, it should be named MacBook, without Pro because it is not a Pro machine. And maybe we could get lesser complaint on Mac App Store comment section for 3D games just because they thought 13" MBP can do 3D game.
As for 13" rMBP, here my two cents after using this thing for a month (I got it for free anyway, so...):
- 8GB RAM is not an issue, period! You just trolling saying it needs 16GB! You just don't run 2 VM, 100megs AI files while running FCPX on this machine, you just don't do that.
- 128GB SSD for $1799 laptop? This is annoying! Seriously? 128GB? And yet you still calling it a Pro? I'll be damn!
- Display is awesome, super awesome, even though, I prefer to have 1440x900 resolution over native retina. The only thing I hate from 13" MB/MBP is the resolution barely usable for professional work. However, if you're iOS app developer or UI designer, this thing rocks! No more scrolling madness for testing app on retina simulator or designing retina artworks in Adobe!
- UI performance is not an issue, at all, some websites simply just another prove of bad programming. And retina aware apps are widely available, if they're not updating their app to be retina aware until first half 2013, it means the app is either no longer under development or its developer simply not serious selling Mac apps.
- Gaming or anything 3D? Forget about it. Unless of course, by gaming you meant Angry Birds, but for me, gaming is stands for Steam, AC3, Diablo 3 and the list goes on.
So who is this for? Professional who does a lot of work developing or designing retina UI but hates 15" rMBP portability. Or, it could be great for business professional, you'll be thank to its retina display for saving your eyes for working too long in front of your computer.
This is not for me, obviously, I switched back to my 15" rMBP after a month. This is well overpriced on my opinion, but then again, no competition whatsoever. And yes, please stop telling me ultrabooks $1000 etc, the closest ultrabook price with this thing is cost more than $1400! But then again, if you're making money with your laptop, why bother with price, as long as its beneficial for you to have this rMBP (also works for boosting confidence), just buy it and don't look back. Haters will be haters, don't listen to them. Reply
.Chris. - Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - linkGrate in-depth review wish I found this 2 weeks ago
I bought a maxed out air then sent it back after seeing the retina display in store.
Since then I've been trying to decide if the upgrade to the faster cpu is worth it for the rMBP. Sounds like it is and as I am paying education prices which brings it in at £1383 (which still hurts but not as much as £1609) Reply
AirieFenix - Monday, March 25, 2013 - linkI would love to see a 13-inch "non-Retina" Macbook Pro with some of the goodies of the rMBP. For instance, I need the Ethernet port (yes, there is an adapter, but I'd rather prefer o have it out-of-the-box); I also like the battery life on the non-Retina model, and to have upgradable hardware is almost a must-have for people that don't buy a new notebook every year (for instance, me).
In the other hand, I don't use the DVD drive on my computers since... I don't even remember. And the 1280x800 is a low resolution right now.
But most important, I'd rather prefer to have a consistent fluidity through all the UI than more than a lot of pixels (yes, it's a nice display, but I'm not a photographer, it isn't a must-have to me) and the price. The price of the Retina model is just too absurd.
Why don't make a 13-inch Macbook Pro with Air's display (a not Retina, but still good) and without DVD-tray (although I can live with it, would be nice to have more space for battery life)? That would be my dream machine. Reply


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Device which is programmed to carry out a set of arithmetic or logical operations e.g. desktop computers, smartphones
- notebooks A notebook, also known as laptop, is a portable computer. When you are looking for the right notebook, it is important to know where you are going to work with it. Do you want to use it on the road? Choose a model with a special energy-saving \'mobile\' processor, a good battery and a reasonably small display. This will allow you to work longer with the same battery and saves you the trouble of carrying around a large display that consumes a lot of precious battery power. Or will you be using you notebook mainly in places where you will have access to a power outlet? Then choose a desktop processor (more processing power for less money) and an ordinary battery. This will save you a lot of money, which you could then spend on a bigger screen. You\'ll work faster because you can view more information at once and it\'s great for multimedia!
- PCs/workstations
Personal Computers, PCs for short, are computers for personal usage. They always have the following components:\
- A processor (CPU), this is the heart of your computer, where the data processing is done.\
- Memory (RAM), this is very fast memory in which temporary data is stored before being processed by the processor.\
- Motherboard, this is the component that connects all the different parts of your computer. Often it has some integrated components like a sound card, enabling your computer to play sound, or a network card, to connect your computer to the network.\
- Video board, this is the part of your computer that is responsible for the graphics processing. Micro ATX motherboards often have an integrated video board. Those integrated video boards are generally not very well suited for playing games, but good enough for watching movies.\
- Hard disk, this is the permanent memory of your computer where your data is stored.\
- An optional DVD/CD player/recorder for reading/writing D
- tablets Mobile computer with display, circuitry and battery in a single unit. Tablets are equipped with sensors, including cameras, microphone, accelerometer and touchscreen, with finger or stylus gestures replacing computer mouse and keyboard.
- backpack PCs Virtual Reality PC, VR PC for short. Nothing breaks down the immersion of room-scale VR like stepping over a cord in the real world while you\'re immersed in the virtual one. That\'s why has created a wireless VR PC pack. Simply wear the VR PC pack like you would a backpack and you\'re ready to be immersed into a virtual world. Users get to move around and enjoy VR with big movements and total immersion without worrying about accidently unplugging the wires between the VR device and the platform.
telecom & navigation
Portable computer devices and phones, and their accessories such as cables and stands
- smartphones Mobile phone that is able to perform many of the functions of a computer, typically having a relatively large screen and an operating system capable of running general-purpose applications.
- navigators With a GPS (global positioning system) receiver you will always know where you are and never lose your way, because of a smart American satellite system which this device can receive signals from. With most GPS receivers it is possible to have your position displayed on a map and quite a few can even tell you the way to wherever you want to go, the only thing you need to do is tell it your destination!
TVs & monitors
- LED TVs
A LED-TV is a flat panel display that uses LED backlighting instead of the cold cathode fluorescent (CCFL) backlighting used in most other LCDs. Three forms of LED may be used:\
- White edge-LEDs around the rim of the screen, using a special diffusion panel to spread the light evenly behind the screen (the most usual form)\
- An array of LEDs arranged behind the screen whose brightness are not controlled individually.\
- A dynamic "local dimming" array of LEDs to achieve a modulated backlight light pattern
- computer monitors TFT/LCD displays are perfectly flat, a lot thinner and lighter than conventional CRT displays and do not flicker, all this because of the new technology they use for producing images. Do you want to free up space on your desk, or do you want to be able to move your monitor without breaking your back? Then this is the perfect display for you!
cameras & camcorders
A camera is a device used to capture images, as still photographs or as sequences of moving images (movies or videos). The term as well as the modern-day camera evolved from the camera obscura, Latin for "dark chamber", an early mechanism for projecting images, in which an entire room functioned as a real-time imaging system. Cameras may work with the light of the visible spectrum or with other portions of the electromagnetic spectrum. A camera generally consists of some kind of enclosed hollow, with an opening or aperture at one end for light to enter, and a recording or viewing surface for capturing the light at the other end. Most cameras have a lens positioned in front of the camera\'s opening to gather the incoming light and to focus the image, or part of the image, on the recording surface. The diameter of the aperture is often controlled by a diaphragm mechanism, but some cameras have a fixed-size aperture.
- digital cameras With a digital camera all the pictures you make are stored digitally, which means you can instantly view a picture after you have taken it and take as many pictures as you like, without having to buy new films all the time. It is easy to download the pictures from your camera to your computer, either at home or at the shop and edit them before printing. Once they are on your computer, you can easily share your pics with the rest of the world by putting them on-line, or e-mailing them to friends.
- camcorders Hand-held camcorders allow you to record your own video and make photoshots. You can always have such cameras with you to record the important moments of your life and share them with friends or family. You can even make your own movie!
audio & home theatre
- MP3/MP4 players MP3s are ways of compressing digitally-stored music and is the Internet-used standard. MP4s can be used to compress various types of data including music and video. MP3/MP4 players are small portable devices used to playing back music files. MP3/MP4 players are extremely small and most of them have no moving parts.
small kitchen appliances
Various appliances such as tin openers and corkscrews.
- coffee makers Machine used to make coffee.
- blenders Electric mixing machine used in food preparation for liquidizing, chopping, or pureeing.
Device for giving light, usually consisting of an electric bulb together with its holder and shade or cover.
- LED bulbs Light-emitting diode (LED) product that is assembled into a lamp (or light bulb) for use in lighting fixtures. LED lamps have a lifespan and electrical efficiency that is several times better than incandescent lamps, and significantly better than most fluorescent lamps, with some chips able to emit more than 100 lumens per watt.
- fluorescent bulbs Energy-efficient lamp. The big ones are commonly used in halls, warehouses and other big spaces. Recently compact fluorescent lamps have been developed for the home and office.
printing equipment
- multifunctionals A multifunctional is really an all-in-one device; it is both a scanner and a printer, and often even has a fax function. So effectively it\'s a copier, but one that has the scanning and printing functions available separately. All this is a great advantage when you have limited office space. Moreover, you will be able to work faster and more efficiently by using the device\'s convenient special functions.
- laser/LED printers Laser printers are devices that print high quality text or illustrations fast. They do so by very accurately applying toner (a kind of ink powder) to the paper and then heating the paper so the toner will melt and stick to the paper.
Instructions for a computer\'s processor to perform specific operations e.g. system software such as Windows and iOS, application software such as internet browsers and apps.
- antivirus security software Computer programs which protect computer systems, files and software from computer viruses.
large home appliances
Devices used in the home such as washing machines and fridges.
- washing machines Machines used for washing clothes.
video games & consoles
- video games Electronic games which involves a human interacting with a user interface, generating visual feedback on a video device such as a laptop, games console or handheld device.
- game consoles Also known as a video game console, this is a device that outputs a video signal to display a video game e.g Xbox, PS4. The term game console is used to distinguish a machine designed for consumers to use for playing video games on a separate television.
health & personal care appliances
Appliances used in baths such as bathplugs.
- men's shavers Electric razor used by men to remove facial and body hair.
audio equipment parts & accessories
- headphones Headphones come in all sorts of designs and qualities, so you will surely be able to find your perfect pair in our database!
toys & accessories
Object for a child to play with, typically a model or miniature replica of something.
- remote controlled toys Toys controlled by remote control, such as toy cars and toy planes.
feeding, diapering & nursing
Equipment and supplies for feeding, diapering and nursing babies such as plastic spoons and bowls, diapers and baby wipes.
- feeding bottles Plastic bottles used to feed milk or other liquid to babies.
- breast pumps Mechanical device that extracts milk from the breasts of a lactating woman. Breast pumps may be manual devices powered by hand or foot movements or electrical devices powered by electricity or batteries.
refrigerators & freezers
- fridge-freezers Upright unit comprising a refrigerator and a freezer, each self-contained.
smart wearables
- smartwatches Computerized wristwatches which can run mobile apps and sometimes function as portable media players, offering playback of FM radio, audio, and video files to the user via a Bluetooth headset. Some smartwatches have full mobile phone capability, and can make or answer phone calls.
- activity trackers
office electronics
- laminators Using a laminator you can attach a clear, protective cover to your prints to make them more durable. Give the outside of reports a lasting professional look or make durable signs for use in public places!
- calculators Small portable device used to perform arithmetic.
nail care
Chemicals and appliances used for having clean and healthy fingernails and toenails.
- nail polishes
- nail top coats
- nail extension sets


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