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Apple Not Throttling iPhone or iPad Cellular Throughput via Carrier Bundlesby Brian Klug on 6/6/2013 4:00 PM EST
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tekneek - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkWonder what changes the custom/hacked ipcc have.
http://www.itweakios.com/apps/blog/show/26861181-u... Reply
reuthermonkey1 - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkThank you for this confirmation. I feel like i've been saying for years that carriers don't manage their data networks by relying on build.props! Reply
jamyryals - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkThis whole situation reminds me of the days when "Leaked" OS updates would hit CrackBerry and all the comments proclaimed how fast the update made their phones. Reply
Kepe - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkHas anyone else noted how Anandtech never writes anything negative about Apple products these days? Apple products always get the most in-depth articles and new products get several articles covering different aspects of the device in question. And then there's this. Some internet rumour about Apple limiting cellular throughput, and Anandtech is right there defending Apple and refuting the rumour. How about covering the bent iPhones? Oh yeah, that would show Apple in negative light, can't do that here.
I love the site and the articles, but I don't understand why Anandtech has become such a pro-Apple site. How much are they paying you guys? Reply
B - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkI think this is a case of you seeing what you want to see. There are 20 main articles on the Anandtech home page right now, and none of them are about Apple. There are another 20 'Pipeline' stories and only one of them is Apple. So there is 1 of 40 about Apple. When there is a refresh and Apple holds its conference there will be a wave of information and probably many articles to cover it and then it will be silent on Apple again, but this is just due to the nature of the product release cycle.
With respect to this article it's objective, not opinion based, the facts have been laid out empirically and the myth has been debunked. I thought it was interesting to understand how this all works and how the author put this puzzle together. Just my two cents. Reply
danstek - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkThis wasn't contrived. People requested for him to explain what was really going on. Also, there's plenty of well detailed reviews and articles over the past month that have nothing to do with Apple. Reply
Homeles - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkOh, look. Another hiveminded Apple hater. Your kind is like a dime a dozen on the internet.
Guess you didn't read Brian Klug's HTC One article, and the glowing review he gave the phone? May I point out to you that it's the only smart phone to have ever recieved an editor's choice award on this site?
Keep your confirmation bias in check, please. Reply
Kepe - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkI didn't say they don't write positively about other devices. It's just that Apple reviews are always the most in-depth and longest compared to anything else here, and there's no criticism towards Apple at all.
The HTC One has 4 articles/news about it here on Anandtech (hands on, camera, mini review, review).
The SGS4 has 6 articles/news about it (3x Exynos 5 Octa, the release, hands on, review).
Iphone 5 has 15 articles/news about it (rumours, release live blog, 3x A6 SOC, new connector, announcement, hands on, RAM, Geekbench results, SunSpider performance, performance preview, display analysis, review, iphone 5 on T-mobile).
So yeah. Call me biased, but I'm not the only one who is being biased around here. Reply
Kepe - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkAlso, if you copy/paste the reviews in to a word processor and look at the word counts, they are as follows:
iPhone 5 review: 30 945 words
HTC One review: 24 176 words
SGS 4 review: 7 768 words
The iPhone 5 has a dedicated article about its display + the longest and most thorough review of the three.
The One has a dedicated camera article + over 1/3 of the review is also about the camera.
The SGS4 review is the only proper article about the device. Reply
unreported - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkSeems you have lot of free time. May be you can write a negative article about apple Reply
michael2k - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkYes, but your bias is wrong. They aren't 'defending Apple', they are explaining a technical detail. Your request that they cover bent iPhones is in fact biased because it would be an intentional attempt to either attack Apple, or defend them. Either they would have to collect an enormous amount of data to be statistically significant, or they can't and then be running an opinion piece. Reply
Commodus - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkThe iPhone 5 is also several months old, introduced a slew of previously unseen technology and has had a staggered carrier launch. Also, it's clear that AnandTech spent weeks reviewing the HTC One and Samsung GS4... I'd say that's pretty thorough.
Here's the problem: every tech news site gets accusations of bias whenever it says anything positive about Apple or even covers Apple substantially. Engadget, Slashgear, TechCrunch, The Verge... even Android fan sites. This happens much less often with Google, HTC, LG, Microsoft or even Samsung. And that betrays the real issue, I think -- you're upset that AnandTech is acknowledging Apple's existence as something beyond a punching bag. Reply
Kepe - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkNo, I'm upset that there's never criticism towards Apple, it's closed ecosystem, its own standards or its products, and that every single thing they bring to market gets a 20+ page review with every nook and cranny analyzed. Everything they do is just amazing, awesome and unbelievable.
How could anyone be upset about too much focus on, say, Windows Phone, when there's exactly 0 reviews on WinPho8 devices here...? Reply
name99 - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkSo you believe that a TECH site's REVIEWS of Apple products should consist primarily of a rant about how Apple doesn't fit your model of an ideal tech company, a rant which is telling nothing new to anyone reading this site?
WTF do you think the purpose of this (or any other) blog is? Because I damn well am not interested in reading one article after another that constantly repeats the same damn thing. And it doesn't matter if that same damn thing is criticism of Apple, Google, MS, Intel, ARM, Samsung, or anyone else.
By the way, there's this thing called Google. If you want to read reviews of Win8 phones, you could start by spending more time using it and less time complaining that SOMEONE ELSE'S site doesn't do what you want. Reply
Commodus - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkOnly there is criticism. Lots of it. Every day.
You're validating my point, here. You're not reading articles as they are, but rather as you presumed they would be. AnandTech's review of the iPhone 5 wrapped up by noting problems with battery life and the differing approaches to the OS that would lead some to choose Android. It wasn't effusive, that I can tell. Reply
JordanNZ - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkIt seems there are people here who are almost disappointed that this rumour has been debunked. Reply
hatfinch - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkIf what you want is more reviews of Windows Phone 8, why couch that in terms of wanting fewer reviews of iPhone 5? Guess what: most readers are more interested in the iPhone 5 than you are, and this is not your personal site. Reply
pliablemoosethebanned - Sunday, June 09, 2013 - linkAnandtech likely cost Apple millions when they proved the iP4 had antenna problems. Any bias here is yours. And this crap gets old, if you want a pro Android site there are quite a few,
Had Brian found throttling at the software level on the iPhone, that would have been reported too, that's not bias, that's just one of the best tech writers on one of the best tech sites doing his job, and that job is harder because of people like you screaming BIAS at the drop of a hat.
Have you listened to Brian on podcasts? He likes tech, not just one company over another, he likes tech, and his stories and reviews make all of our stuff better. Reply
name99 - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkYeah, and Haswell just got, what, eight different articles in the last three days about various different aspects of it, plus another eight about motherboards using it, all based on the fact that this week is Computex.
I don't see you whining about that.
Anand covers, for the most part, ALL technology, to an extent that's a combination of his team's interests and general public interest. If you want all Android all the time, stop reading here and go read AndroidPolice or something. Reply
Kepe - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkWhat I want is the same treatment to all devices in the same category. Yes, Intel has had a lot of attention now. But AMD gets just as much attention when they have new stuff coming out. Also, AnandTech has criticized Intel about some of the choices especially in Haswell desktop parts.
If every iPhone, iPad, iMac and MacBook gets a 30 000 word review with in-depth analysis into every feature it has, why don't the flagship models from other manufacturers get that? Also, if and when Apple releases their rumoured mid-range smartphone, I'm 110% sure AnandTech will have a huge review on that, too. Where are the reviews of other mid-range smartphones? Why does the Apple mid-range phone matter so much more than the others? My problem is that whatever Apple does, it's on Anandtech. But with every other manufacturer they just review the flagship models if they happen to bother. There's no WinPho reviews, searching for "Jolla" or "Sailfish" gives 0 results, and so on. Reply
name99 - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkBut it simply ISN'T the case that every Apple product gets a massive review. Once again you're seeing what you want to see. The Apple products that aren't considered to be introducing notable tech don't get big reviews, often they don't even get noticed. The mac mini with Ivy Bridge was never mentioned. iPod Touch barely gets mentioned, likewise iPod classic or shuffle.
But why am I wasting my time? Anyone who thinks claiming that the iPhone5 is a "mid-range phone" is clearly someone with an agenda who will never be satisfied.
Like I said --- AndroidPolice and WinSuperSite both exist. Perhaps you'd be a whole lot happy living your life in a bubble by reading only those? Reply
Kepe - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkWhere did I say iPhone 5 is a mid-range smartphone? Don't put words in my mouth, learn to read instead. And once again, as I said, all I want is the same treatment to all devices in the same category, not depending on the manufacturer. Last year Apple launched their new mp3 players, and those were covered here. When was someone else's mp3 player launch covered here, however briefly? There's even an iPod touch review from 2010 here. Where are the other mp3 player reviews? Reply
name99 - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - link"Why does the Apple mid-range phone matter so much more than the others? "
Is Apple making some phone OTHER than the iPhone5 that has been reviewed recently? What is this "Apple mid-range" phone you are referring to?
Or is your point that you are somehow amazed that Brian Klug (whose entire life revolves around reviewing cellphone minutiae) would weigh on the rumor of the day when it involves cellphones, even when those cellphones are the iPhone 4s and 5? I honestly can't tell what's pissing off anymore.
I mean, Brian wrote an article a week ago on the WHITE Nexus 4, who sole difference from the previous Nexus 4 is the color. I didn't see you screaming in rage at the fact that he wasted precious pixels on such a "minor update". Reply
Kepe - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkAlso take a look at these news posts:
Both are by Anand, the worst Apple fanboy on Anandtech, and in both he makes sure to tell everyone that Windows 8 DPI scaling is "horrible" and "terrible" although it isn't even true. Reply
MykeM - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkHere's Ars Techica review of the 2560X1440 Kirabook:
"Finally, the most unfortunate part for Toshiba is that the worst thing about the Kirabook—the often-blurry, inconsistent mess that is Windows' desktop scaling—isn't really anything it or even Microsoft can wholly remedy. The companies are at the mercy of third-party application developers, some of which don't properly support high-ppi displays in Windows despite supporting them in OS X (or even on the Chromebook Pixel, in Google's case). As was the case when the Retina MacBook Pro launched, buyers will have to wait for all of these applications to update before the things on their screens look as good as they're capable of looking. And if your software won't take advantage of the screen's extra density, why not consider one of the many cheaper 1080p alternatives?"
Have you tried running Win 8 with HiDPI (that's 2560 and beyond). It's the consensus amongst all tech reviewers that Win 8 scaling relies too much on 3rd party apps compliance. Reply
Ryan Smith - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkIt is true though. Windows 8 DPI scaling is absolutely awful. For something that can scale internally (such as web browsers) things aren't so bad since the OS is cut out of the picture. But the number of applications rendered blurry on my Zenbook Prime (11" 1920x1080) is nothing short of disappointing. Reply
Ualdayan - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkI own a Surface Pro, and while I love the freedom to run all my old x86 programs I have to agree DPI scaling is horrible in desktop mode. Some apps will have huge buttons, others have tiny buttons, others just get completely screwed up where you click on one button but a different one entirely thinks it's been clicked instead. Even basic text becomes blurry in some programs. I don't know where you're getting 'it isn't true' from, unless you just haven't experienced it yourself yet. Reply
michael2k - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkFirst you have to tell us which flagship models to review. Apple's flagship models are the flagships for the industry; Retina displays that are added to PCs a year or two later, aluminum blade design that becomes the Ultrabook archetype, aluminum chassis that becomes the premium archetype, chiclet keyboards, etc. By reviewing Apple, Anand is in fact reviewing the state of the industry a year or two later. Reply
nevertell - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkHey, what's the encoding on the .plist files ? I had the chance to scout through an iPad once with SSH, but none of the config files were usable. Or are they encrypted ? Reply
Jimmy C - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkHas anyone else noted how Kepe never writes anything positive about Apple products these days? Some ill-founded rumor gets intelligently refuted and Kepe is right there attacking the publication and ignoring the accuracy. Reply
Kepe - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkI'm talking about much more than this one article. Also, I'm not a review site claiming to be reliable and unbiased. But don't get me wrong. I love AnandTech and all Anand has done to make computing better. I just can't get over the Apple love that has been going on for the past couple of years. Yes, they make desirable products that many want and some even consider as a status symbol, but nothing's perfect. Reply
hatfinch - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkI must have missed the articles where Anandtech wrote about the aspects of the iPhone that contribute to social status.
Whose bias is showing again? Reply
davidcTecher - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkThere's a very straightforward reason for why there are more Apple articles than one may expect: they get mouse-clicks. I clicked on this headline because it had the word Apple on it. I also read the entire HTC one review with interest because it would be the phone I would most likely defect to if I left the iOS ecosystem. I feel anandtech does a very balanced job of reporting tech news. If Kepe only wants to read android news, he should pay someone to do that. Reply
Kepe - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkI read almost all reviews published here. Even the Apple ones. And FFS, I'm not saying there shouldn't be ANY Apple news/articles/reviews. I'm just saying that Apple gets way too much attention compared to others, and that isn't right if you're supposed to be an unbiased tech site. There are whole smartphone OSs, manufacturers and ecosystems AnandTech is ignoring, while they're covering every little detail about Apple smartphones. Reply
garcondebanane - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkAnand and the team have taken it upon themselves to report on the state of the art, and whether you agree with Apple or not, they're a huge player, and their design and technical decisions have a disproportionately strong effect on the industry - you can't really effectively discuss the state of the art if you concern yourself with making sure everyone gets the same amount of air time.
I think they've done a good job putting out articles that add meaningful insight to the discussion instead of just troll and fanboy fodder, and true unjustified bias would be if they intentionally suppressed Apple related articles for fear of sounding partial. Reply
iwod - Thursday, June 06, 2013 - linkThese days there are far too many people producing crap on the internet merely to gain pageview via ads.
There are Company paying people to pollute, distill the social network in generating traction or hate towards a brand.
There are those who are absolutely mindless and just trust what they read blindly without thinking through their heads. Reply
thornburg - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkBrian, why don't you actually test this? There are "tweaks" available that supposedly fix the problem that Apple is accused of creating--why don't you do the traditional Anandtech thing and provide some hard evidence? Run speedtest checks (and whatever other data gathering you feel is appropriate) with both the Apple provided settings and with tweaked settings, and show us the difference (or lack thereof). Reply
jamyryals - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkI think the people making the claims should provide the proof (along with methodology). Brian explained the settings and their purpose. Reply
name99 - Friday, June 07, 2013 - linkThe ENTIRE PREMISE of tweakios' claim was idiotic the moment it was posted.
Let's suppose that ATT has towers that support 64-QAM. Then what possible advantage is there to Apple or ATT of preventing iPhones from using that and forcing them to use 16-QAM? All it does is force the phones to spend more time transmitting data, so it
- overloads ATT's network (makes ATT look bad)
- makes iPhones slower (makes Apple look bad).
If you're going to create a conspiracy theory, the theory should at least make some sort of sense. This theory makes none. It's the sort of thing spouted by someone who hasn't a clue how the networks actually work and what issues are really gating performance. Reply


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NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 570: Filling In The Gapsby Ryan Smith on 12/7/2010 9:00 AM EST
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xxtypersxx - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkIf this thing can hit 900mhz it changes the price/performance picture entirely, why no overclock coverage in such a comprehensive review?
Otherwise great write up as always! Reply
Bhairava - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkYes good point. Reply
vol7ron - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkWhy do graphics cards cost more than cpu+mobo these days?
I know there's a different design process and maybe there isn't as much an economy of scale, but I'm just thinking about the days when it was reverse. Reply
Klinky1984 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkWell you're essentially buying a computer on a card with a CPU these days. High performance GPU w/ high performance, pricey ram, all of which needs high quality power components to run. GPUs are now computers inside of computers. Reply
lowlymarine - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkI think it's simply that GPUs can't get cheaper to the extent that CPUs have, since the die sizes are so much larger. I certainly wouldn't say they're getting MORE expensive - I paid $370 for my 8800GTS back in early 2007, and $400 for a 6800 in early 2005 before that. Reply
DanNeely - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkHigh end GPU chips are much larger than high end CPUchips nowdays. The GF110 has 3bn transistors. For comparison a quadcore i7 only has 700m, and a 6 core athlon 900m, so you get 3 or 4 times as many CPUs from a wafer as you can GPUs. The quad core Itanic and octo core I7 are both around 2bn transistors but cost more than most gaming rigs for just the chip.
GDDR3/5 are also significantly more expensive than the much slower DDR3 used by the rest of the computer. Reply
ET - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkThey don't. A Core i7-975 costs way more than any graphics card. A GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD9 motherboard costs $600 at Newegg. Reply
ET - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkSorry, was short on time. I'll add that you forgot to consider the price of the very fast memory on high end graphics cards.
I do agree, though, that a combination of mid-range CPU and board and high end graphics card is cost effective. Reply
mpschan - Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - linkDon't forget that in a graphics card you're getting a larger chip with more processing power, a board for it to run on, AND memory. 1GB+ of ultra fast memory and the tech to get it to work with the GPU is not cheap.
So your question needs to factory in cpu+mobo+memory, and even then it does not have the capabilities to process graphics at the needed rate.
Generic processing that is slower at certain tasks will always be cheaper than specialized, faster processing that excels at said task. Reply
slagar - Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - linkHigh end graphics cards were always very expensive. They're for enthusiasts, not the majority of the market.
I think prices have come down for the majority of consumers. Mostly thanks to AMDs moves, budget cards are now highly competitive, and offer acceptable performance in most games with acceptable quality. I think the high end cards just aren't as necessary as they were 'back in the day', but then, maybe I just don't play games as much as I used to. To me, it was always the case that you'd be paying an arm and a leg to have an upper tier card, and that hasn't changed. Reply
TheHolyLancer - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linklikely because when the 6870s came out they included an FTW edition of the 460 and was hammered? Not to mention in their own guild lines they said no OCing in launch articles.
If they do do OC comp, most likely in a special article, possibly with retail brought samples rather than sent demos... Reply
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkAs a rule of thumb I don't do overclock testing with a single card, as overclocking is too variable. I always wait until I have at least 2 cards to provide some validation to our results. Reply
CurseTheSky - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkI don't understand why so many cards still cling to DVI. Seeing that Nvidia is at least including native HDMI on their recent generations of cards is nice, but why, in 2010, on an enthusiast-level graphics card, are they not pushing the envelope with newer standards?
The fact that AMD includes DVI, HDMI, and DisplayPort natively on their newer lines of cards is probably what's going to sway my purchasing decision this holiday season. Something about having all of these small, elegant, plug-in connectors and then one massive screw-in connector just irks me. Reply
Vepsa - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkIts because most people still have DVI for their desktop monitors. Reply
ninjaquick - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkDVI is a very good plug man, I don't see why you're hating on it. Reply
ninjaquick - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkI meant to reply to OP. Reply
DanNeely - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkAside from apple almost noone uses DP. Assuming it wasn't too late in the life cycle to do so, I suspect that the new GPU used in the 6xx series of cards next year will have DP support so nvidia can offer many display gaming on a single card, but only because a single DP clockgen (shared by all DP displays) is cheaper to add than 4 more legacy clockgens (one needed per VGA/DVI/HDMI display). Reply
Taft12 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkMarket penetration is just a bit more important than your "elegant connector" for an input nobody's monitor has. What a poorly thought-out comment. Reply
CurseTheSky - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkMarket penetration starts by companies supporting the "cutting edge" of technology. DisplayPort has a number of advantages over DVI, most of which would be beneficial to Nvidia in the long run, especially considering the fact that they're pushing the multi-monitor / combined resolution envelope just like AMD.
Perhaps if you only hold on to a graphics card for 12-18 months, or keep a monitor for many years before finally retiring it, the connectors your new $300 piece of technology provides won't matter to you. If you're like me and tend to keep a card for 2+ years while jumping on great monitor deals every few years as they come up, it's a different ballgame. I've had DisplayPort-capable monitors for about 2 years now. Reply
Dracusis - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkI invested just under $1000 in a 30" professional 8-bit PVA LCD back in 2006 that is still better than 98% of the crappy 6-bit TN panels on the market. It has been used with 4 different video cards, supports DVI, VGA, Component HD and Composite SD. Has an ultra wide color gamut (113%), great contrast, matt screen with super deep blacks and perfectly uniform backlighting along with mem card readers and USB ports.
Display Port, not any other monitor on the market offers me absolutely nothing new or better in terms of visual quality or features.
If you honestly see an improvement in quality spending $300 ever 18 months on a new "value" displays then I feel sorry for you, you've made some poorly informed choices and wasted a lot of money. Reply
ilkhan - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkI love my HDMI connection. It falls out of my monitor about once a month and I have to flip the screen around to plug it back in. Thanks TV industry! Reply
Mr Perfect - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkIt is somewhat disappointing. People with existing screens probably don't care, and the cheap TN screens still pimp the DVI interface, but all of the high end IPS panel displays include either HDMI, DP or both. Why wouldn't a high end video card have the matching outputs? Reply
EnzoFX - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkHigh-End gaming card is probably for serious gamers, which should probably go with TN as they are the best against input lag =P. Reply
Mr Perfect - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkInput lag depends on the screen's controller, you're thinking pixel response time. Yes, TN is certainly faster then IPS for that. I still wouldn't get a TN though, the IPS isn't far enough behind in response time to negate the picture quality improvement. Reply
MrSpadge - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkAgreed. The pixel response time of my eIPS is certainly good enough to be of absolutely no factor. The image quality, on the other hand, is worth every cent.
MrS Reply
DanNeely - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkDue to the rarity of HDMI 1.4 devices (needed to go above 1920x1200) replacing a DVI port with an HDMI port would result in a loss of capability. This is aggravated by the fact that due to their stickerprice 30" monitors have a much longer lifetime than 1080p displays and owners who would get even more outraged as being told they had to replace their screens to use a new GPU. MiniDVI isn't an option either because it's singlelink and has the same 1920x1200 cap as HDMI 1.3.
Unfortunately there isn't room for anything except a single miniHDMI/miniDP port to the side of 2 DVI's, installing it on the top half of a double height card like ATI has done cuts into the cards exhaust airflow and hurts cooling. With the 5xx series still limited to 2 outputs that's not a good tradeoff, and HDMI is much more ubiquitous.
The fiasco with DP-DVI adapters and the 5xxx series cards doesn't exactly make them an appealing option either to consumers. Reply
Mr Perfect - Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - linkThat makes good sense too, you certainty wouldn't want to drop an existing port to add DP. I guess it really comes down to that cooling vs port selection problem.
I wonder why ATI stacked the DVI ports? Those are the largest ports out of the three and so block the most ventilation. If you could stack a mini-DP over the mini HDMI, it would be a pretty small penalty. It might even be possible to mount the mini ports on edge instead of horizontally to keep them all on one slot. Reply
BathroomFeeling - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link"...Whereas the GTX 580 took a two-tiered approach on raising the bar on GPU performance while simultaneously reducing power consumption, the GeForce GTX 470 takes a much more single-tracked approach. It is for all intents and purposes the new GTX 480, offering gaming performance..." Reply
Lonyo - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkAny comments on how many will be available? In the UK sites are expecting cards on the 9th~11th December, so not a hard launch there.
Newegg seems to only have limited stock.
Not to mention an almost complete lack of UK availability of GTX580s, and minimal models and quantities on offer from US sites (Newegg). Reply
Kef71 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkOr maybe they are a nvidia "feature" only? Reply
Taft12 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkGame, set and match. It will take a long time for Anandtech to redevelop its reputation. Reply
7Enigma - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkSeriously? We're still going to preach on this topic? I was one of those in disagreement with the way they handled the launch of the AMD 68XX series cards, but let it die already. This is a LAUNCH article and it deals with the design of the card and the performance of the reference card. As such it should not contain comparisons to OC'd cards.....not AMD nor NVIDIA. In a follow-up article, however, it should be compared to non-reference designs from both camps.
If, when the AMD 69XX series cards come out and they include OC'd Nvidia cards, THEN you can rant and rave. But I can guarantee you there is no way they would do that after the fallout of the previous launch.
So I politely ask that you stop. Reply
Kef71 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkYes, seriously. Was there ever any official statement if OC cards would be used in GPU launches? I didn't see any but on the other hand anandtech has not been in my bookmark list for a while... Reply
strikeback03 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkYes, there was, they said because of d-bag comments like yours they would ignore a sector of the market and only provide some of the possible competitors for new products. Reply
Kef71 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkIf you really need to be rude, at least spell out "douchebag". Reply
slacr - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkI was just wondering why there are no starcraft2 performance figures in the review.
Understandably there is no "benchmark" feature implemented in the game and they are annoying and time consuming to run and of course the card can handle it. But it is the only game some of us play and the figures may help guide us to see if it's "worth it". Reply
nitrousoxide - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkIt's a more CPU-bound game so it cannot perfectly reflect the difference in GPU performance Reply
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkI'm still in the process of fully fleshing out our SC2 benchmark. Once the latest rendition of Bench is ready, you'll find SC2 in there. Reply
tbtbtb - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkThe GTX 570 is now available for pre-order on Amazon for 400$ (http://amzn.to/e89Oo2) Reply
Oxford Guy - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkWhere is it, especially minimum frame rate testing?
While it's nice to see minimum frame rates for Crysis, it would be nice to see them for Metro as well. Reply
Oxford Guy - Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - linkDoes Nvidia not want people to use Unigine since it showed the 480 beating the pants off the 580 in minimum frame rate at 1920x1200 and lower resolutions?
I've noticed a definite lack of Unigine on review sites for the 570. Reply
stangflyer - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkAny idea why the 580 sli takes such a huge dump going from 1920 res to the 2560 res. It loses half its framerate! I has 1.5 gigs of memory vs the 5870 1 gig and the 5870 crossfire goes from 50 fps at 1920 and 37 at 2560. The 580 sli goes from 72 fps at 1920 to 36 at 2560.
Any ideas?? Reply
SmCaudata - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkIt seems that AMD is finally getting cross-fire scaling well. The new 68xx cars are better than the old, but the 5870 is scaling as well as the Nvidia cards in a lot of cases. My guess is that with cross-fire or SLI the memory bandwidth is less of an issue. You don't fully double your framerate afterall. It is likely more dependant on the GPU clock speed..which is an advantage for AMD.
I am really just taking a guess here. The other option is that it is simply an immature driver and will be fixed later. Reply
nitrousoxide - Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - linkOnly when you used a dual-AMD-card configuration you will realize how much you will suffer from its poor drivers. It's fast but buggy and I've been waiting too long for AMD to finally come up with a Catalyst that at least runs as stable as the nVidia driver. So please AMD, give us a nice driver! Reply
Anchen - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkHey,
Good review overall for an apples to apples comparison. I would have liked to see what it did overclocked as some have mentioned. On the Metro 2033 page the article says the following:
"While Metro was an outstanding game for the GTX 580 to show off its performance advantage, the situation is quite different for the GTX 470. Here it once again fulfills its role as a GTX 480 replacement, but it's far more mortal when it comes to being compared to other cards. "
In the first sentence shouldn't it be "...the situation is quite different for the GTX570." and not the 470? Reply
sanityvoid - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - linkMuch as I love this site, the color schemes for the charts is really getting old. Why can't all the colors be the same EXCEPT for the one being reviewed. We're mostly all adults and can read so the other GPU's in the charts could be left all one color.
Some other sites do this and it is much easier to read what is actually being reviewed, even if the review color is always the same on each chart. It still adds to the clutter of the charts. The human eye/brain gets distracted easy.
Other than that, another good job on the article. Reply
Ryan Smith - Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - linkThanks for the feedback.
The colors are still a work in progress. We had some requests for additional colors in GPU articles to highlight the products we're immediately comparing the reviewed product to, which is what I did for this article. Certainly if you guys this this is too much, we can go back to fewer colors. Reply
ATimson - Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - linkPersonally, my problem isn't so much that there are other colors, as that there's no good way to tell what they mean.
Maybe one color for "other cards with benchmarks", one color for "immediate competition" (instead of each their own color), and a third for the product proper? Reply
sanityvoid - Thursday, December 09, 2010 - linkI really like this idea. All one color for 'set' of reviews (if multiple), and one color for primary.
BTW, I didn't know others were asking for more colors. I guess do what others want. For me, personally, I like the one color for primary and one color for all others. It is just the easiest for 'first glance' to be easily distinguishable.
Peace. Reply
kirankowshik - Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - linkI dont know why I should go for the Nvidia GTX 580 / 570 series when I am getting the same (almost or more than) performance with ATI Radeon cards for a lower price. ATI HD 5970 is almost 30$ cheaper than GTX 580 but outperforms it in every single test. 5870 is not very close but atleast some what close and the performance of GTX 570 over 5870 does not justify a $100 gap between these two. Anyways, I think NVIDIA is just producing cards for name sake..with HD6900 series coming up, I will not be surprised if they offer huge performance leap over the GTX 580/570 for the same price...Again it will be what NVIDIA was when ATI released their batch of first DX11 cards and NVIDIA was struggling hard to get an answer to those... Reply
kanthu - Thursday, December 09, 2010 - linkRyan Smith from his conclusion
"As with the GTX 580 we'd pick the simplicity of a single-GPU setup over the potential performance advantages of a multi-GPU setup, but this is as always a personal decision."
Going with dual GPUs (specifically nvidia) has it advantages. You get to experience nvidia 3D surround. Yeah I know the additional costs the additional monitors etc that this entails. If GTX 460 1GB SLI can bring so much to the table, I can only imagine what the GTX 560 1 GB SLI can do when it comes.
I only wish the development on the display side catches up with the development on the GPU side (now that AMD has only jumped on the 3D bandwagon). Reply
owbert - Thursday, December 09, 2010 - linkAnandtech, thank you for including a F@H benchmark.
Thumbs for the continuous great work. Reply
Shala3 - Sunday, December 19, 2010 - linkAnand:
In this sentence
The GTX 570 is fast enough to justify its position and the high-end card price premium, but at $100 over the GTX 470 and Radeon HD 5870 you're paying a lot for that additional 20-25% in performance.
did u mean a performance difference detween 5870 & 5870 is 25% ??? Reply
szore - Monday, April 25, 2011 - linkI bought my BFG GTX 570 a few weeks ago and I am thrilled with it. Reply

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Anand Reviews the Apple iPhone 3Gby Anand Lal Shimpi on 7/16/2008 8:00 PM EST
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buckdutter - Friday, August 22, 2008 - linkAT&T's coverage could indeed be better, but then again they are still rebuilding from when they decided to switch from TDMA to GSM, instead of following the natural path to CDMA, which Verizon, Sprint, and Alltel (soon to be Verizon) use, as well as many more localized carriers. The problem with CDMA is that it is going nowhere. The majority of the world is GSM, and CDMA is becoming more and more marginalized, in fact in the next 4 or 5 years CDMA will be practically phased out in the US. Verizon (and Alltel) will be switching to LTE, a GSM based technology which will be a rough transition - either resulting in sacrificed coverage, or more expensive devices (like Verizons expensive "world edition phones") that will run on both their networks. Either way, they will be doing what AT&T (Cingular, whatever) did 4 or 5 years ago, and much later in the game.
Meanwhile AT&T will make a natural transition from their 3G, which is in all fairness not nearly as widespread as EVDO at the moment, to LTE. Sprint will be going WiMax. Not one major carrier in the US or abroad has made a commitment to the future of CDMA. Verizon has held on to EVDO as long as it could, and has prolonged having to switch, but they are beginning to hit the limitations of EVDO, meanwhile 3G is just getting started, with AT&T planning to follow suit of carriers abroad and boost the speeds to around 20mbps in mid-2009. EVDO will be topping out around 3.2 at most, if even that.
While having used all the services I strongly disagree with saying that Sprint or T-Mobile even come close to AT&T for coverage, it is largely regional subjective, and is really not fair to work in experiences in one localized area into the review for the phone. Like them or hate them, AT&T recognized early that GSM was the roadmap to go. Like it or hate it, blame Verizon for delaying the inevitable for so long...it makes no sense for Apple to make a CDMA phone when it is so limited in implementation globally. Because of that decision they are the most widespread GSM provider in the US (the US was a little late in getting into the GSM game).
In the end, AT&T may have a lot of ground to cover, but we should be excited what at least one U.S. carrier took the leap and is building out a GSM network in the states, even though it meant making the sacrifice of less coverage in rural areas as they build the new network out. It will be interesting to see how Verizon copes with having to change over. Reply
Hrel - Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - linkOver 2 years the new iphone plane costs an extra 60 bucks, but the upfront cost is 300 dollars less. The iphone 3G is less expensive in every way; even with the incremental increase in contract cost. I'm confused that I need to point this out considering you say it in your article then contradict yourself by saying the old plan and phone was less expensive. Total cost over two years the new one is 240 dollars less. Reply
maxnix - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - linkWith no user replaceable battery, it is a toy, not a reliable business device.
It seems to me that 90% of the users I see are fiddling about on it with their fingers and not even 10% use Bluetooth. Are there still no voice driven commands? That's how I use my phone.
Seems like a great device for someone who wants to make calls on their iPod when they are not listening to a lossy audio source.
Jobs is the new PT Barnum in that he fully exploits the "A sucker's born every minute..." credo. The world is full of lemmings. Reply
maxnix - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - linkWelcome fanboys to AT&T's limited 3G. The rest of the world has been there for 5 years. Reply
steveyballmer - Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - linkSprint or whoever has released the perfect smart phone! It's based on Windows Mobile and is beautiful to behold!
There is nothing else anything like it! The Instinct!
The ZunePhone has suffered a few setbacks so this will have to do until we work out the bugs. Buy it! Don't be decieved by that imitation iPhumb.
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Lezmaka - Monday, July 21, 2008 - linkI think there's a fairly obvious (to me anyway) reason why the talk time measured is almost half the time the specs state, beyond the best case scenario stuff.
In most conversations, there's a significant amount of dead air. Even if it's only 1/10 - 1/4 of a second at a time, over the course of several hours, that will add up. But with most music, there's almost no dead air. Even when the person isn't saying something, there's at least some sound being generated. Detecting that dead air and not transmitting would probably be the best for battery life, but even if it continually transmits, the compression would reduce the amount of data transmitted to almost nothing.
I would guess that choosing an audio source that more closely matches an actual conversation would provide a somewhat more accurate test result. But I'm not expert, so what the hell do I know? Reply
Giacomo - Monday, July 21, 2008 - linkEhm... No man, there's no way this could influence battery life. No matter how intense is the information in the call, most of the energy drain is due to the "line" itself... Keeping the full-duplex conversation online.
Everything else left to the battery is the loudspkeaker consumption... But it's a ridicolous amount, you won't be able to measure its impact.
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donhoffman - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - linkActually the original commenter on this was correct. This is a time-honored technique for getting more battery life out of cell phones. Channel allocation for voice calls is done at call setup. A continuous data stream is not needed to keep up the "line". If either end of the call has nothing to send, it does not need to transmit, saving significant power. The technique used in this article probably does underestimate the battery life. Not by 100%, but maybe 20-30%. Transmit power is much larger than audio power. That is why you get 24 hours listening to music on the iPod side, but only 5 or so hours doing cellular phone calls.
nichomach - Sunday, July 20, 2008 - linkNot wishing to get into whether the new iPhone is all that, I'd note that the enforced PIN code when using Exchange is usually a policy setting defined in Exchange, and there's a choice about enabling it. That choice'll be made by your Exchange admin(s). If they enable it - personally, I do - then I'd expect it to be enforced on any device that claims to support Activesync. One of my arguments with Nokia's Mail for Exchange client, for instance, is that it doesn't (or didn't) properly support policies like that; that the iPhone does makes it a viable choice if I end up with a director demanding one. If you're using your phone in a corporate environment, then you may be sending and receiving confidential stuff. Enforcing a PIN and supporting remote wipe properly is the sine qua non as far as I'm concerned. Reply
Schugy - Sunday, July 20, 2008 - linkOpenmoko will have the best 3rd party support while Nokia and Google (Maemo / Android) have their own ressources. But regarding their openness they are evil. The FIC Freerunner is a nice phone but the Openmoko project still has to develop a lot.
On the other hand I think that a Open Pandora handheld with a USB HSDPA modem (maybe builtin in future revisions) is a lot more usable and even has game controls. Telephony and navigation could be done via a bt headset+voip and gps receiver.
All the platforms will feature ports of killer apps like pidgin IM, scummvm, evolution e-mail and lots more. Ports of gnash, the GNU flash player, are possible too but I would suggest to get rid of these stupid and annoying banner ad players. A nice stream or download link for mp4-files will make your full featured (fullscreen / post processing filters) mplayer happy. Reply
cleviticus - Saturday, July 19, 2008 - linkA basic one-line plan with Cingular (I know they go by AT&T now)without ANY extra features runs you $45/month and that is with just enough minutes to tell people that you'll call them back after nine. Unlimited internet and data runs $45, last I checked, and that somehow doesn't cover much texting, something I do a lot of. Texting is another $10. So to get service and data BEFORE tax you spend $90. My provider offers unlimited voice/data/text/GPS/e-mail for $100 with coverage that exceeds AT&T's.
That fact alone is enough to keep me away from the iphone for good. I admit that the interface is unbeatable but the functionality of the phone is not. That being said I don't think it deserves as much attention as it receives. Also coverage varies drastically from city to city. In NY my phone works great but in Vegas it blows. In Chicago I'm golden but anywhere between Arkansas and Virginia- forget about it. I used cingular for two years and their coverage was only good in large metropolitan areas. As soon as I got out of the inner city my reception was weak and I couldn't even text. I think they are a horrible company but since they bought up most of the old bell empire- they're here to stay. Reply
Sunrise089 - Friday, July 18, 2008 - linkWow I wish I had first comment here so I could get a response.
In Anand's otherwise near-perfect review, he talked about Exchange support but didn't cover my #1 iPhone question: does Exchange support work without the $45 Enterprise Data plan? I can't for the life of my get a conclusive answer if the Enterprise plan is required for exchange, or just required if the iPhone is going to be purchased or paid for through a business. Reply
araczynski - Friday, July 18, 2008 - linki'm still holding out for the day the iphone comes with some real screen resolution.
if the N810 can do much better than this, why can't the almighty apple? Reply
sleepr0 - Friday, July 18, 2008 - linkLets see:
- The 3G doesn't fit the old cradle and the cradle is not included - $15.
- Old cover doesn't fit - $20.
- Unlimited data up $10/month.
- Text up $5/month.
- Cellular triangulation works nearly as well as GPS.
- 3G not significantly faster than Edge and all the new users will take a load off of the Edge network, freeing up bandwidth and making Edge a bit faster.
- Battery life worse.
I'll wait for Version 3, thanks.
wvh - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkWhy do you buy a new phone when you are happy with your old one – it has pretty much the same functionality anyway? What is wrong with all those people who buy something just because Apple (or whoever) releases it? All these morons queueing up, did they all accidentally happen to break their phone the day before?
It's a nice in-depth article, no remarks there, I've just heard enough already about this consumer hype. It's just talking people into fake needs.
Blast me for being negative, but you know I'm right. Reply
michael2k - Friday, July 18, 2008 - linkThe problem is that people aren't happy with their old one, and it doesn't have the same functionality, so that is why they queue for the iPhone. So essentially all your base assumptions are wrong.
There is nothing wrong with these people; there is something wrong with the RZRS et al they already own, because they were broken the minute they bought them. No accident, they were just made that way. Reply
Giacomo - Friday, July 18, 2008 - linkNo, actually you aren't right. You could be, if we were here to make free-philosophy, but that's not the case, we're here to talk about hardware (and related).
So then, you are accusing the mass of an excess of "hype" around the iPhone, and well, while it's definitely true that many of those people will buy it for "trendy" purposes, there are surely others (like me) who are about to buy it because they just like it and could benefit from it. In my particular case, I have lost my iPod Mini (...) and my cellphone is at its 4th year of life, with the keyboard almost died (intense 20.000+ sms usage in these years). The iPhone, by simply being, to me, an iPod which calls and writes sms, is great to have both the devices in the "main" pocket.
Full comfort over the whole year (no matter what clothes I'm wearing, the front/right pocket does ALWAYS have my cellphone inside, and thanks to the iPhone, the iPod as well), a brilliant keyboard for my heavy SMS usage, and I could be happy without anything else. Plus, there's something else actually, and I'll surely enjoy.
If we had to think like you in your post, we should all tell you: Why do you read Anandtech? You can live with a 5 years old PC without problems nor upgrades, if you just use some Office, browse the web and check your mail. If you game, well, that's energy consuming, money-wasting, time-wasting, and you should quit. But, of course, none in here would say that to you, neither would I.
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scottwilkins - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkFirst, I've had AT&T for years. Never stepped in a store, and never talked with them about a purchase. They were very helpful and darn quick about replacing my wife's phone when it died. AT&T is the easiest to work with (and I work with most of them because I support a lot of folks on different networks) Plus, the AT&T signal in the places I go beats out all others hands down. So for you to say their signal is bad is very objective and quite stupid, since you did it only probably in one room and not overall.
Also, your indications that other phones can't do what the iPhone can do are all false. One thing the iPhone CAN'T do that many many other phones can do is change. It can't change it's interface to suit other purposes, it can't change it's battery, and it can't change carriers. The 3G's only add over the old iPhone is 3G and GPS. All other features are software, and now available on the original iPhone. So an upgrade is useless until you contract is up.
Apple is a closed box. I prefer freedom. Reply
michael2k - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkUh, with a soft interface and touchscreen, the iPhone is just about the only device where it's interface can change as needed; you get two buttons when in Camera mode, 20+ in Calculator mode, 26+ in note-taking mode, etc. Reply
Ryl3x - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkI will buy at lunch. I read alot of reviews over the web including sites that dedicate themselves to phones. I found this to be one that i could relate to. Thanks. Reply
DeesTroy - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkMy younger brother works for Garmin. You almost certainly won't get voice directions, at least not for free. The licensing agreements with the few companies that make the maps used in mapping software (e.g. Navteq) are very specific about what you can and can't do with the maps they provide. The mapping companies currently charge significantly more if you want to do voice directions. Nokia's purchase of Navteq makes a huge lot of sense given what one can do with maps, a GPS, and Internet all in one package. All of this is probably part of the reason that Garmin is getting into the phone business with the nuvifone. Reply
cocoviper - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkWell I think it depends on how we define free. Since you're paying so much for the iPhone's plan one would think they could (or should) include it at some point.
The Instinct does turn-by-turn voice GPS and it's included in the phone's plan. Reply
jcal710 - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkAnand,
You talked about the problems with contact syncing on Exchange. How configurable is it? Does it automatically default to your top level 'Contacts' folder in your Exchange mailbox, or can your point it somewhere else? Do you have the option of choosing whether or not to sync subfolders? Reply
Griswold - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkI'm glad I didnt go for the first iphone, that way I can appreciate my 3G more(besides the fact that it wasnt sold until the 11th of july in this country and I would have been forced to import one and jailbreak it).
Anand, your friend with the huge lips doesnt listen to the name of S.Tyler by chance? :P Reply
ViRGE - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkAnand, do you know if Apple's A-GPS implementation requires cellular network access? Some do, others can revert to traditional GPS operation if there's no cellular network to offer location assistance. I'm curious which of this it is Reply
Obrut - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkSo how is it even remotely possible that there hasn't been a real iPhone competitor in the year since the original's release?
Nokia N95 8GB is far superior to iPhone and it was released even before the first iPhone.
It's right to say there's no competition here. Apple need at least 3-4 more years to be truly competitive to Nokia. I think iPhone is better solution for americans. In Europe you need 3.5G or 4G phone to be truly connected. Reply
michael2k - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkYou're serious aren't you?
Let us count the ways then:
iPhone screen resolution is 2x the Nokia screen resolution
iPhone is nearly half as thick as the Nokia
CPU of nearly twice the speed
The Nokia's one physical advantage is the 5MP cammera (which is only possible because the Nokia is twice as thick). Reply
Obrut - Friday, July 18, 2008 - linkOK, let's count, Michael...
1. Screen resolution is bigger and it should be simply because the display is much bigger. The display is much bigger because it's a touchscreen, though not big enough for my fingers.
2. iPhone is thin and that's because it has merely 4 buttons and a low profile, low-end camera. By the way how do you play games without buttons?
3. Speaking of games how do you play OpenGL games? I play Quake 2 with full lighting effects and FSAA at 40 FPS. What about the JAVA games?
4. N95 8GB is a dual CPU solution (2 x ARM 11 @ 332MHz) hence no lower performance here.
5. The 5MP camera of N95 8GB is more that just megapixels - it has Carl Zeiss optics, decent flashlight and can capture movies at 640x480@30FPS. In addition - correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see the front camera which every decent 3G phone has. How can I make a video call with iPhone? After all this is one of the best 3G features.
I can continue counting the battery, office productivity and so on, but this is not the place. I don't want to engage in a Nokia vs. Apple or N9x vs. iPhone battle here. I just don't like statements like "there's no competition", "best phone ever" etc. The most accurate thing to say is that iPhone is the best touchphone to date.
Griswold - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkWhy talk if you dont know what you're talking about? 3.5G is called HSDPA (an extension to UMTS) in europe, which is supported by the iphone 3G. 4G isnt even available yet, think 2010 for commercial use, so why mention it?
Why is there no competition? Because none of the competition has a smartphone that comes with this usability. All the other phones can do the same or more, yes. But all of them feel clumsy like a brick when using them. That is why there is no competition. And this comes from somebody who truly doesnt like apple and its godfather jobs...
cocoviper - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkSpeaking of not knowing what you're talking about...
HSDPA isn't 3.5G, it's definitely AT&T's 3G and that is what the iPhone 3G supports. That's the 3G that Anand complained is not really that much faster.
If there were a "3.5G" in AT&T's portfolio it would be HUPSA (the one that they just upped the offered speeds on.) However AT&T currently doesn't offer any phones that are HUPSA capable. They only have a couple of Aircards for laptops.
And yes, 4G is available in many parts of the world besides the US my friend. WiMax alone is deployed 119 countries currently. LTE is the only 4G that's "not even available yet," and that's because it's yet to be developed. (LTE isn't even into the whitepaper stage yet.)
So don't slam other people especially since there's always someone that will know more than you.
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cocoviper - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - link*HSUPA not HUPSA :-P Reply
robinthakur - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkAnd naturally, the 'competitor' that you chose, the N95 supports 4G does it? Don't make me laugh. I used to have an N95 and I upgraded to the iPhone after having used one and being uber impressed. The N95 might have a longer spec sheet anda better camera, but for usability the iPhone is so far ahead its almost comical. People seem upset that Apple got something right pretty much first time which all the other manufacturers still can't do. Just look at the mess that is Windows Mobile. Reply
Obrut - Friday, July 18, 2008 - linkRobin,
1. I'm talking about N95 8GB and not N95, there is a quite big difference. But nevermind - you can pick N96. It even has built-in TV-tuner.
2. I never said N95 supports 4G. I was talking about the differences between North America and Europe for example. 4G is for my laptop and stationary phone.
Besides I never said that iPhone is a bad phone at all. Reply
Obrut - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkFor the clumsiness - I agree.
4G is available here (Bulgaria), though we're the only country in Europe with 4G coverage (yet). I mean nation-wide WiMAX coverage over 4G equipment.
As for the install base - compare the number of Symbian applications over iPhone apps...
A-GPS - I've been using this for long time and I can't even imagine that the first iPhone is lacking this. So A-GPS - no news, welcome to the club.
Accelerometer - welcome to the club also.
Photo - 2 MP means no camera at all
Flash support - this feature is mandatory for decent browsing experience.
Battery - how usefull is a phone which you should recharge twice a day (in case you're using it for more than talk and that's the big idea with iPhone)
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rubbahbandman - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkEpic review. This phone looked like a steal at $200, but man it really is spendy once you do the math for those 2 year contracts. For now, I think I'll hold off until I can find out what's in store with the Google phone. Reply
Griswold - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkThere will be no "google phone". You'll just get whatever the various manufacturers do with android and last but not least the telcos feed you - no magic google bullet that will make everything glorious.
And yet, there are already dark clouds on the android horizon. Open source they said? Why is it that only a handful developers under NDA get SDK updates and the rest is forced to use outdated, bugged versions?
More about it and a petition can be found here:
With that in mind, android could face some major delays... big chance for nokia (and their newly founded, open symbian alliance) and apple to steamroll over googles android parade before it really took off. Reply
shortylickens - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkWith the phone, that is. The article is exactly what I've come to expect from Anand, nothing less.
I will admit I am normally an Apple hater. I lady I know at work made her husband get her this as soon as it came out. She was showing it off to everybody on Monday. I admit it was pretty darn sweet and had a ton of useful features. When I went to the AT&T site and saw I could get the 8 gig version for 200 bucks I was astonished.
Of course, AT&T will probably have some way to leech a ridiculous amount of money from me with the service, but the phone itself is great and a really good deal right now. Reply
Bremen7000 - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkMaybe the webpage load times are specific to your area? Ars's findings were significantly more in favor of 3G: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/iphone3g-r...">http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/iphone3g-r...
And I agree with the above posters, you should know better than to complain about a specific carrier's reception without heavily qualifying it. Reply
GTaudiophile - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - linkI refuse to buy one until I can use it (legit) with T-Mobile. Reply
Arc 0V - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkSame iPhone should be on more carriers than AT&T but oh well. On the other hand I love my Verizon service. I travel a lot with family and friends, and my cousin and a friend have T-Mobile and the other has AT&T, and I can not count how many times I have service when they don't (wow lots of ands). By travel I mean like out of state constantly either driving or flying. Reply
imaheadcase - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - linkYes 3 articles on Iphone. Sad, pretty sad change of course for the site.
When can we expect to see a preview, review, and feature set of the Ford Escort, or Bud Light with Lime? I await with anticipation! Reply
michael2k - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkLike it or not, the iPhone is hardware.
AnandTech is run by Anand, and whatever strikes his fancy (be they MacBook Airs or iPhones) gets reviewed. Reply
imaheadcase - Monday, July 21, 2008 - link"Like it or not, the iPhone is hardware.
AnandTech is run by Anand, and whatever strikes his fancy (be they MacBook Airs or iPhones) gets reviewed. "
Yes its hardware, so is a toaster..I away his review on the latest model toasters that come out, as well as the top of the line flashlights... i rest my case. Reply
robinthakur - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkIts sad that you aren't realistic enough to know that currently lots of people are looking for a decent and unbiased iPhone 3G review, and Anandtech (A technology site I recall) offers a very good and highly technical review, the best I've seen. Where's the issue there? Are you annoyed that the iPhone is again in great demand and in the news? Its hardly the iPhone's fault that the HTC *fill in this weeks model* garners about as much press attention as a comeback by Kelly Clarkson, its fundamentally outdated and playing catchup to the new kid on the block. Reply
Griswold - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkYou really need to roll over and die. Reply
at80eighty - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkyou ungrateful morons don't seem to get a simple fact. this site is FREE
Anand & Co. owe you nothing & yet they keep putting up good/great articles
Lately all i see is whine & cheese about how anandtech has lost its hardware focus , while commenting in 'the third' article of hardware
more often than not this is a one stop place for getting your info. don't like it , don't click.
and im not a mindless fanboy - someone here was recently criticizing the AT staff over something , but he made clear , precise & constructive points why he felt so - and thats a good way to go about it. your stale WAAWAAWAA is just a stupid annoyance Reply
Dennis Travis - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkVERY well said. Almost the exact words I was thinking.
Keep up the EXCELLENT work Anand and Staff! Reply
imaheadcase - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkWhat he said, roll over and die. Reply
Brianoes - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - linkWhat are you talking about? I think that Anand's article provides one of the, no, the clearest and most consise iPhone article, and I'm done hunting for them to learn some more random details that I may have been interested in. His conclusion was not the standard three paragraph garbage you see on most other review sites - thanks for the really in depth final conclusion and summary.
The first and last good iPhone review I've read, coming from an iPod Touch user for the past three months.
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imaheadcase - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkWhat am i talking about? I guess you are oblivious to the fact that the iphone is a niche market. Like every smart phone out there. Yet they review a iphone and no other phone? You know why they don't review others phones..because there are millions of sites that do that all the time.
Stick with actually HARDWARE analysis like next to Anandtech on top of page. Leave the phones/cars/apple related stuff/ game reviews, etc to other sites who do it 24/7.
Goty - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - linkI think there needs to be some emphasis in the section dealing with reception on the fact that coverage is STRONGLY influenced by where you are. When I was at college, a large number of my friends were Verizon customers, but most dropped Verizon and switched to either Cingular/AT&T or regional carriers because Verizon coverage in the area was practically nonexistent. None of their phones got reception in any of the buildings on campus or in any most of the apartment complexes, and signal strength in open air was limited to one or two bars at best. Reply
sprockkets - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - linkYeah, T-Mobile has better coverage than At&t? WTH? Just look at their maps. Do they even have 3G yet?
Well, I guess I can trust Anand's experience. But, at least I can take my SIM card out and use my own phone. I guess you can just call Verizon and do the same thing, but with the majority being GSM, there is less of a selection for CDMA.
And of course, Apple is predictable as ever. They advertise every night the iphone on The Daily Show. Reply
cocoviper - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkI think as the US and Europe reaches saturation CDMA will become much more competitive. It's what China and Brazil's network are built on, and given the next 10-15 years there will most likely be more cell phone growth and eventually more users there. Reply
brzgeek - Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - linkCDMA in Brazil??!! I'm Brazilian, and the last company that was a CDMA holdout (Vivo) gave up that particular battle and switched to GSM about a couple of years ago. Nowadays there isn't a single company selling CDMA phones in Brazil any more (though Vivo still supports CDMA due to its pre-GSM users who haven't switched phones). I suggest you check your sources, they seem to be seriously outdated. Reply
NA1NSXR - Thursday, July 17, 2008 - linkYou're kidding right? I just spent a year in China and it is a nearly 100% GSM country. I don't even know where you get off saying China is CDMA so matter-of-factly. Reply
tayhimself - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - linkHmm... this is a great suggestion Anand. Have a yearly charge for both and somehow integrate them too. Reply


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It's very predictable behavior.
There's a road between Santa Fe and the mountainous areas on which this activity takes place. When there's a lot of snow in the mountains, there's a lot of snow on the road. It's well and promptly plowed, but conditions are usually dicey early in the morning after a big storm.
It's a very predictable scenario.
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But this is not the case.
No one knows what makes someone believe they can pile a family of four into a Dodge Neon with skis poking out the windows and shoot straight from sunny Santa Fe right up to the ski area after 8 inches of fresh powder has softly pummeled the Sangre de Cristo Mountains, but hundreds seem to do it every time it snows.
It's no big deal to pull over, bust out the tow strap and haul these folks out of an embankment every once in awhile, but it's less charming when they end up blocking the road and creating a snarl of bitter, powder-hungry maniacs equipped with sharp poles, heavy boots and general misanthropy.
Things really get screwed up when the park rangers start telling apparent lies. Earlier in the season, a ranger was stopping traffic not too far past the entrance to Hyde Memorial State Park and telling everyone to pull over. There was a multi-car collision up the road, he said—we're waiting on tow trucks and wreckers to come up from town and clear the scene.
After loitering with a few hundred other despondent souls, my truckload got sick of the stench of fresh wax and decided to peak up the road while the ranger was distracted—maybe we can help was the rationalization.
What we found was a beautiful, clear road all the way to the parking lot at Ski Santa Fe. Not a single crashed car and no evidence of one, let alone many. Soon, texts and tweets were flying. As word spread, I imagine the ranger saw more than a few middle fingers as people tore up the hill and away from the impromptu parking fiasco and traffic tangle—at least from those who weren't stuck in the deep snow in which they'd been asked to park. I don't know what body parts the others might have shown the ranger.
More recently, it was a similar story. Just past Nun's Curve, traffic was nearly stopped in both directions. Allegedly, a ranger had blocked the road ahead and a wicked game of telephone was spreading down the hill at a rapid clip.
"The road's getting cleared."
"Conditions are impossible."
"It's a nightmare—no one can make it through."
"Wrecked cars are littering the road."
We confidently told people who had started to turn back to Santa Fe that it was likely a lie—or at least it had become a lie by the time the distorted news reached them. But they didn't listen—they grew increasingly panicked and started sliding and getting stuck in their efforts to turn around and flee the fearsome mountain.
The problem is that the steepest, shadiest part of the road is actually on the way down—the road dips before climbing steeply up toward Nun's Curve. All of those fat-packed Dodge Neons? Maybe they could have made it to the ski area and maybe they couldn't, but they sure as hell couldn't make it back up Nun's Curve. The result was a massive and dangerous traffic jam caused by people trying to leave. Cars were sliding everywhere, people were angry and short-tempered, and thousands upon thousands of dollars that Ski Santa Fe would have earned were deflected back toward town. The vast majority of cars waiting to go back down the hill were from Texas and Oklahoma.
As a cantankerous local, I'm obligated to be happy they turned around and to be happy if they decide to never return to Santa Fe after their crappy visit. But as a caring local, I'm obligated to think that was some poorly handled tourism business.
When I used my cantankerous local persona to romp past the chaotic heap of cars, the road was once again clear and beautiful. The powder was fresh and the skiing was great.
When gullible Americans believe that health care reform is a government takeover or that US wars are about national security and spreading democracy, they're sheeple: people behaving like unquestioning sheep. When they believe the rumors spreading from car to car, they're skeeple.
In Colorado, a consortium of government bodies has considered a $15 billion rail system to alleviate ski traffic congestion. In Santa Fe, a simple sign at the bottom of the hill—"4WD required this morning"—would probably do the trick.
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