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Motorola Atrix HD Review: Fast, Sharp, Bargainby Jason Inofuentes on 9/5/2012 12:00 AM EST
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Schadenfreude - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkI hate to be "that guy" - but the correct first sentence/question "is there room for . . ." instead of "their".
There, I said it! Reply
JasonInofuentes - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkThanks, it's fixed now. Their's always one. :) Reply
noblemo - Friday, September 07, 2012 - linkSimilarly, I think "tack" should be, "tact." Reply
noblemo - Friday, September 07, 2012 - linkWell, "tactic," actually. Reply
coolhardware - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkThanks for mentioning the Atrix HD's color balance issue!
I too have a Motorola phone with a 'nice' display, the Motorola Photon. The display looks 'nice' when you look at the spec sheet, but when you actually look at the screen it is way skewed toward blue.
However, there is a software solution that has worked well for me:
and after making the adjustments using the Android color filter app the screen looks MUCH better!
I hope this helps anyone else in a similar situation and I would love to see how the Atrix HD subjectively fared after being adjusted using software. :-) Reply
jjj - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkInteresting device,now lets see what they have to show today,hope it's something relevant (if anyone cares Moto is live streaming the event on their youtube chan) Reply
dagamer34 - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkIf 8GB worth of NAND Flash clearly isn't worth the $100 difference between this one and the Galaxy S III or the HTC One X when it debuted, one has to wonder why the GS III and certainly the iPhone 4S sell for so much in the first place.
Oh well, no more iPhones for me. I'm tired of basically being cheated on the cost of Flash. Reply
Death666Angel - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkSGS3 is lighter, has a bigger, removable battery, SAMOLED display (which is superior to normal LCDs in my book), double the RAM and double the NAND. That's what that extra $100 gets you. I'd chose the SGS3 over this any time. Reply
zero2dash - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkI strongly considered the Atrix HD because I didn't want to pay $200 for a SGS3 and I hoped that the Atrix would be "good enough" for half the price. In the end I figured I might as well buy something that meets or exceeds my needs now, and should hold up in the future.....and I went ahead and paid the extra $100 for the SGS3. Couldn't be happier.
The general consensus seems to be to not compare the AHD to the SGS3 or the One X and I think that's a good point to make, because the AHD is, as the review states, more of a middle class device than a higher class/top tier phone. With One X's now being lowered to $99, I think the AHD is an even harder sell than it already was and I expect these to drop to $49 before too long otherwise they're going to have an even worse uphill battle. Clearly the price tag of the SGS3 is not scaring people off.....and for good reason - it's a phenomenal phone, arguably the best phone available today. Reply
Impulses - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkThe AHD is already $50 at several third party retailers... Probably free during holiday sales, quite a lot of phone for very little (contact renewal and that whole ridiculousness aside). Reply
Belard - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkThe Atrix HD does include the Car Dock/Charger. It re-configs the phone to a GPS type device and hands-free home just by plugging it in. The dock costs $40 (on the Motorola site).
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/Vehicle-Navig... Reply
kpb321 - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkI assume that the color issue persisted with the new phone you received to resolve the camera issue since you didn't say otherwise. When I first saw the specs and price for this phone I figured it would end up being a pretty solid mid level phone and most people probably wouldn't be bothered by the display or if they were it would be at a level where they couldn't put their finger on why it bother them. Reply
dymelos - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkI know most of these are written with certain things in mind, and mostly started before market adjustments happen. But when you put a mid range phone againist a high end phone (the htc one x) thats the same price as each other, its hard to recomend the mid range phone. The htc has been 99 at att for over a month now. Its the best phone for the money that they carry as far as complete packages are concerned. Reply
Impulses - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkAnd the AHD is already $50 at most places other than AT&T... They can't revise the article d every two weeks. Reply
bill4 - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkUmm, they can edit the line referring to price, or update their conclusion, or come out with these reviews in a more timely manner, or SOMETHING.
Talking about how this is the only Krait available for 99 when the One-X has been 99 for weeks just makes the article look bad.
Just overall, the review isn't timely enough. This phone came out in late July IIRC. At that time I was kind of interested in it as an SGS3 alternative. That seems like forever ago and the Anand review is just now hitting? It's way too late to do any good.
However, Anand does the most thorough phone reviews that I trust the most. A lot of reviews from all the phone sites, while they may review the phone a day after release, are really shitty. To me they're more like first impressions masquerading as reviews.
So I guess, it's a big catch 22, and I dont know the answer. But just in general I wish this review was more timely by far. Like maybe first week of August or anything. Reply
SlyNine - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkAnandtech adjusts, and learns, from things like this. I hope the next phone review is a bit more forward thinking and includes scenarios such as price drops ( if they think the price will drop just after, or even before the review is released). Reply
MrMilli - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkJason, it seems you're not too familiar with v-sync.
The differences between the onscreen and offscreen tests (v-sync'd and not) are perfectly normal and have nothing to do with 'thermal issues that arise because of the heat generated by the screen'.
The simple explanation is that when v-sync is off, the gpu doesn't have to wait for the monitor to refresh to send the back buffer to the frame buffer. This will cause an increase in frame rate, even under 60fps. Reply
SlyNine - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkThey have discussed this before. I believe they disable Vsync for both, Its a developer option, but I don't remember the specifics. Reply
Belard - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkI've been playing with HTC One X, SGS3 and a bit with the ATRIX HD finally. (I did consider the Nokia 900 and iPhone4s - No on iPhone because of Apples lawyers and iPhones are more prone to theft - no on WP7... and its dead end system... even at $50).
I helped my business partner go with the Samsung GS3... its quite nice... and these 3 phones include an LED messaging light (handy!). But the screens on GS3s are a bit dark.
Because of the Power button and USB connector location, I tossed out the HTC-One X. Otherwise, its screen, the feel of the body scores a 10 in my book. The Camera is still odd to me. I just won't deal with that button arrangement. Hence, we have CHOICES.
Love the HOME button on the GS3... Can't stand the glossy plastic feel - the phone is too big for me to make it even bigger with a cover. The cover my friend bought, feel apart after a month.
The review cleared up a few areas that helps me out on this... THANKS Jason. (sorry for poking ya about it) - I wish the camera was a bit better, but I use real cameras when photos count. Hence, the 8GB of memory means nothing to me. The issues you bring up are valid (the SD slot cover) and slightly odd looking back. Would NFC added more than $5 to the price? I *WILL* be going with the white version because I like how it looks from the front and side. IMHO, they should have made it solid... it would have looked more modern. I actually like how the texture differences feel. The black band has speckles on it (think IBM type-writer/keyboards of the 80s) which is old-school texture..
I love how the phone feels (not quite as much as the HTC One). I've played with putting it in my pocket and seeing how I can get phone out. I wish it was a bit smaller. The VOL buttons can be set to control ZOOM or SHUTTER... very smart. Also, because of the lack of MAIN buttons, there is a bit more flexibility in using the phone.
At least down here, at&t is including a CAR-DOCK ($40 usually) with this Atrix HD... so its almost like paying $60 for the phone. The DOCK attaches to you car and your phone clamps to it. What the dock does is charge your phone and puts it into a GPS mode... It'll operate in a hands free mode (speaks your text messages / speaker phone modes). When you remove the phone from the dock, it can "tag" your car location... so if its in a big parking lot, the Atrix HD will point to your car. (unless it was stolen, of course)
I like the standard interface of the Atrix HD too... over the Samsung and a bit over the HTC for the very reasons you pointed out... using it on the phone is quite nice. I've been using launcher7 on my Galaxy S1 phone for 1.5 years. (It a WP7 Launcher interface) - I think I'm good with ICS on the Atrix to keep it stock.... its a nice screen and to reduce to basic plain color blocks seems a shame.
I'm glad you did a proper battery test. Reviews I've seen from end users "battery sucks" had me worried. hence, I trust reviews that use standards that can be compared to products, not just what someone decides based on their own usage. None of the phones on your list is as bad as my 2 year old Galaxy S1.
PS: I've seen the preview photos of the Lumia 820... that is a very COOL looking phone. Too bad they don't make an Android version. :) I'm sure Launcher 8 will come out if I feel the need to use that User Interface style. There is also WP7 style Phone Dialer / Texting apps too... ITs that kind of flexibility that keeps me on Android.
PS: I always recommend people to still try out the phones themselves to make sure they are comfortable with it. I trust the HTC One X - but its still not for me. Reply
piroroadkill - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkYou have the battery in the RAZR MAXX, but it's not used in every phone you make.. why not? It would be a huge draw. No other manufacturers have cottoned on yet that people want huge battery life, but you did.. with one model. Reply
eric appla - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkdoes anybody make rugged smartphones? No mater what phone I had they rarely lasted more then 6-12 months so i ended up with Sonim XP3 but it's too bulky but i could live with that.
True problem is the buggy SW.
From the Smartphone on the market Motorola razr seems like most robust but battery live is poor.
If anybody have an idea what else to look at please post here.
Criteria are following
1) Durability
2) Reliability
3) battery live 3 days of medium use or replaceable battery to be able to carry spare battery for longer weekend hikes
4) Android
Thanks Reply
MrMilli - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkThe Sony Xperia acro S has IP57 certification but has a non-user replaceable battery. Reply
Zoomer - Friday, September 07, 2012 - linkThe upcoming Xperia V would do too. Reply
Belard - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkIts out-dated, but kind of matches your 4 items
Samsung needs to modernize that phone. Its buggy and the battery tends to such. But it is tough. Reply
Death666Angel - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkMaybe adjust your behaviour first? I have broken 2 phones out of 5 I owned, one because of a car/bike accident and one because of a fight I was in. My 2 most recent ones (HTC TP2 and Samsung SGS2) have survived 20+ and 15+ months so far. Reply
kmmatney - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkI have zero broken phones out of all that I've owned since 1999 (and a few pagers before that). Work has always paid for my phones + service (currently iPhone 4S). I'll probably break one when I pay for it myself... Reply
kmmatney - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkJust get a good case? Hard to imagine anything breaking inside an otterbox. Reply
Peanutsrevenge - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - link'Sensible screen size: Maybe, just about.
MicroSD: Check
Removable battery: FAIL.
Decent performance: Check
Another phone that fails to tick the boxes a mate wants ticking.
Why oh WHY can't Android phone makers put decent hardware in a phone <4" with removable battery and SD card slot?
Even going for 4.2-4.5" with those requirements is hard to find and their important features for a great number of people.
Sod saving that 2mm thickness, give us removable batteries! Reply
Belard - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkRemovable battery isn't a major issue for most people. As long as there is a way to hard-reset the phone. My Galaxy S1 Captivate has a handy slide-removable cover - which gets used a lot because it locks up.
Talk time on todays phones are pretty good.
The HTC ONE X has a non-removable battery, also can't add memory to it.
Even thou the S3's cover can come off... it actually works pretty good underwater... a video is on CNET... dropped in a fish bowl for a few seconds. Only thing dumb about it - She tried to turn the PHONE OFF (but it thought it wanted her to unlock/reboot) - rather than pull the battery ASAP. Reply
Arbie - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkJason -
It doesn't "beg the question"; it "raises the question". In basic terms, to beg a question means to take something for granted. Reply
SanLouBlues - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkIs it easy to flash with other ROMs? My current Motorola Droid Pro is crippled with the stock ROM and it drives me up a wall. Reply
bjacobson - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkGiven Motorola's track record of support for existing devices I'm staying the heck away from this one. My Atrix4G, hailed as the world's most powerful phone when it was released just one year ago, still does not have ICS or JB. It has 1GB RAM, 16GB ROM, and dual core 1ghz A9 (Tegra2), no reason it shouldn't receive ICS, JB and (potentially Android 5.0), but I'm not holding my breath to get even ICS.
In addition Motorola's touch screens leave a lot lacking. Every phone of theirs that I've used (OGDroid, Droid2, Droid3, Atrix4G, Droid Bionic) has too low of a resolution of touch-sensing and has a grid of "dead zones" where the screen will jitter if you hold you finger there while dragging something (like the notification bar). Makes for a very unpleasant phone experience that I do not want again.
So needless to say I will be going HTC or Samsung or frickin anybody else but Motorola next round. Reply
Belard - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkAtrix HD is sold by the Google owned Motorola... Support should be improved, no?
Also, I had the same problems with my Samsung.
The carriers are the biggest problems with updates. Reply
bjacobson - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkYes.
It probably will be, I'm just TO'd that I still don't have a new version of nderoidz Reply
blakflag - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linktotally agree.. I also got the Atrix 4G and the update support has been terrible. Regardless of how good the hardware is, without timely updates it's not worth it. Gonna go with a Google Nexus branded device next time. (stock Android is better than any of these tarted up skins the OEMs put on there) Reply
extide - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkYou'll probably be disappointed to find out that all the future Google Nexus phones will be made by Motorola! Reply
Impulses - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkThat's just speculation, and also irrelevant since updates would be handled by the Android software team regardless... Doubly irrelevant if rumors of an expanded multi-manufacturer Nexus lineup are to be believed. Reply
ados_cz - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkGalaxy S III is quad core. Reply
eric appla - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkthere are two variants. The one listed here is also correct it is a USA model which is dual core while the international version is a quadcore Reply
ados_cz - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - linkAha, thanks, did not know that. Reply
locowolf - Thursday, September 06, 2012 - linkAny chance that you can start testing battery life on GPS in some of these reviews? I am astonished at how fast GPS runs down the battery of my HTC One-X and would love to see how other smartphones fare. Reply
Belard - Saturday, September 15, 2012 - linkWell... I finally got my Atrix HD today. So far, I'm liking the phone a lot... much more than my Galaxy S1... and personally, I still like it over the SGS3. Still getting used to Android 4.0
Anyways, soon after activation - there is a 66mb upgrade for the Atrix HD phone which is supposed to:
- Improve battery life (always a good thing)
- Improve Wifi
- some security fixes.
- Improved Camera functions and image quality.
Since I just got the Phone and did the update on its first charge, I don't have much to compare it with.
Improving Camera and battery life would be a big boost to the phone.
I really really like the Circles, how the info is provided. Reply
Belard - Saturday, September 22, 2012 - linkOne week of use...
Battery life seems to be getting better every day. Also, I've shut down some useless apps, mostly at&t ones for thinks I just don't need.
Best Buy is now selling this phone (by itself) for $30... a steal.
The phone fells great. The review is pretty accurate on its shortcomings (SIM cover). I also played with a friends new Samsung Galaxy S3, fixing some settings... and was glad to have bought the Atrix HD over the Samsung (even thou it is a somewhat better phone on the hardware end)
4.1 will only make the Atrix a much better phone. Reply
kbird1976 - Monday, October 01, 2012 - linkHow do I know if my phone is charging.. I thought there was a blue flashing light,but its gone Reply
kbird1976 - Monday, October 01, 2012 - linkcan you remove/change the keyboard that suggest words ? I hate that, I just want the old fashion touch 1 letter at a time ! Sorry, but I am an older user and swype isn't for me, nor the suggestion of words.
Thanks ! Reply
KjunMan2012 - Monday, October 22, 2012 - linkStay away from the Motorola Atrix HD as it will not last the length of your contract. Purchased one at AT&T on 8/24/2012 with a 2 year contract. The phone battery lasted until 10/20/2012. After many questions by warranty such as "Do you leave the phone on at night?" I was able to obtain a new one under warranty spending $14.95 for expedited shipping.
I doubt this phone will last until the end of the contract as the battery which cannot be changed will die again and at that point I have nothing, nada, for a phone. Maybe it will get dropped overboard while fishing as it is insured. Probably will end up buying another phone on eBay to get to end of contract. Wanted to pay for a new Samsung and trade in this NEW Motorola but they would not deal or wanted $450.00 for me to change phones. I am stuck with this one but no more Motorola phones for me. My son has the Samsung Galaxy III and has no issues with it. Should have spent the additional $100.00 and got a quality phone. John Arbuckle said "You get what you paid for". Boy, was he right!
Camera is poor on the Motorola. Photos come out rather yellow looking. Difficult to save photos and some I have not been able to delete.
My suggestion. spend a little more money and get a much better phone than the Motorola. I hope it lasts till contract ends but i am not confident. Reply
Jay72 - Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - linkIf I run Lin pack multi threaded 10 times on my atrix HD, I get from 250 to 300 MFLOPS on 9 of the runs. Reply


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Dell XPS 13: A Different Kind of Ultrabookby Dustin Sklavos on 3/13/2012 9:00 AM EST
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piroroadkill - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - link"AnandTech receives a notebook for review from a vendor not named Sony or Apple, and that notebook features a cut rate 1366x768 TN panel with poor viewing angles, poor color, poor contrast, and just poor quality all around."
Yup. I also do take issue with the resolution, I think that 768 vertical pixels is a bit cramped, and that 1440x900 is the ratio and resolution we should be hitting on 13" screens.
I have a 14.1" 1400x1050 machine at home, and that is just about right. I have a 15" 1920x1200 screen, and although it looks great, I do admit that the scaling issues we have in Windows as it stands, means that it can be a little uncomfortable to some (I found an issue where changing DPI even by a little made a piece of software unusable. Not just hard to use, unusable).
Lets see some good quality 1440x900 panels in this size of laptop, what do you say, Dell? Reply
Cloudie - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI totally agree; I have a Macbook Air 13 and the 1440*900 resolution is absolutely perfect for this screen size. I only wish the colour gamut and viewing angles were closer to level of the Macbook Pros or one of the other 3 or 4 notebooks on the market with decent screens. Reply
retrospooty - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - link" I have a Macbook Air 13 and the 1440*900 resolution is absolutely perfect for this screen size."
Yup, I had that on my Lenovo X301 back in 2009 and it rocked. This 1366x768 madness has to stop. Reply
apinkel - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkCouldn't agree more.
I think the MBA is a bit over-rated simply due to lack of ports and the move to a non-user-replaceable battery (sadly most of the ultrabooks have followed apple on these two items) but the one thing that I am really, really jealous of is the screen on the MBA.
I have an X301 right now and I really like it. I like the screen size/aspect ration/resolution, the keyboard which has better feedback then every ultrabook I've tried, great port selection (I work on other people's PC's and I have to have an ethernet port), excellent battery life with the optional bay battery and light weight. I do wish the X301 had the current generation of ultra low voltage cpus but for my usage I've actually been surprised at how well the 1.4ghz CPU has performed. Reply
Dug - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkYou will have moved on to another computer a long time before the battery would need to be replaced.
One thing I wish pc ultrabooks all had was a thunderbolt port. Reply
apinkel - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI just back from a trip (last minute booking) where I had a 7 hour layover in an airport. Having a replaceable battery, even on a laptop with 5+ hours of battery life is handy to have.
That said, the battery issue isn't a deal breaker for me. The lack of an ethernet port is. Reply
Guspaz - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkFew people even buy a second battery for their notebook, let alone carry one around. And even for the Macbook, you can always buy an external battery pack like the Hyperjuice and accomplish much the same thing, with the added advantage of not having to turn the notebook off while swapping batteries. It's what I do with my Toshiba notebook, even though it does have a removable battery. Reply
retrospooty - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI know... I really wish they did an X310 and 320. WTF? Now Even Lenovo's newer 13 inch have 1366x768... gack. Reply
apinkel - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkI agree.. I was really disappointed with the screen on the X1. They put gorilla glass on it (why?... it's not a touchscreen, it adds weight and adds glare) and the resolution changed to 1366x768.
The big downside to the 16:9 screens is that if you want 900 lines of resolution you end up with a resolution of 1600x900... and the dpi becomes to high to be legible for me.
With a 13.3" screen and 1440x900 you end up with a dpi of 127... which is the sweet spot IMO. Reply
kjboughton - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkCouldn't agree more...
I was recently looking for a cheaper notebook to replace an aging Dell m770 that I'd had from 2003 when I decided to try the Inspiron 14R.
It's going back. The whole unit feels cheap but the 1366x768 TN panel from BOE-hydis is HORRIBLE. I can't stand using the notebook because of that. And to think that the $999 ~ $1499 XPS Ultrabook using a similar panel (albeit a slightly smaller viewing area) is astounding. Barf! Reply
JojoKracko - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkThat is it. I'm never buying another laptop until they start making them with screens at least as good as on a $500 tablet.
Who is with me?
Fight the manufacturers idiocy! Reply
Sabresiberian - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkAgreed!
I'm strongly tempted to say the same about desktop monitors, too.
;) Reply
cptcolo - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkI could not agree more. It is absurd that a $500 iPad3 can have a great screen that has 3,145,728 pixels yet a $1500 Ultrabook has only 1,049,088 pixels and in terrible 16:9 layout at that!
I am with you all 1440 x 900 for 13 inch screens! They need to follow the MacBook Air all the way. Reply
xenol - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI have this problem with the laptop industry in general. Why is it that the basic panel is 1366x768? How come there are few intermediaries available (not that they don't exist in theory, but in stock) between that and 1920x1080? I had to spend weeks looking for a new laptop because I refused to have a "720p" laptop and nobody stocked bigger resolutions until I got to 17" Reply
Pneumothorax - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkIt's why I still purchase MBP/MBA and just run win7 on them: The screens rock. The touchpad is another area that I don't understand why PC manufacturers can't at least match Apple in function. I'm still forced many times to use an external mouse when I get on a PC laptop. Reply
Pneumothorax - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkTo Dell: It's ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC that my circa 2005 Dell Inspiron 6000 15" WUXGA 1900x1200 screen has a higher resolution than your WHOLE current consumer line of laptops in 2012! Reply
retrospooty - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - link"To Dell: It's ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC that my circa 2005 Dell Inspiron 6000 15" WUXGA 1900x1200 screen has a higher resolution than your WHOLE current consumer line of laptops in 2012!"
I agree that 1366x768 is useless, but its not like your 1900x1200 was standard. Back then on a 15 insher 1280x800 was standard, 1920x1200 was an upgrade option, just like 1920x1080 is today.
Still though, this is one thing (and the only one thing) I like about Apple, they still offer 16x10 Reply
peterfares - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkThe thing is a big part of Dell's lineup used to have upgradable screens. I would like it if that was still the case. Instead, we usually only have one screen, and if it's 14" or smaller it's 1366x768. ASUS did announce they will have an IPS 1920x1080 option on the refreshed Zenbooks so that should be pretty awesome. Reply
KoolAidMan1 - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkExactly. The screens, trackpads, and keyboards on most notebooks are garbage. It would be great if more were as good as Apple's, but then that would jack up their prices further and nerds who only see pricetags would complain that they are "overpriced".
Racing to the bottom has destroyed quality except among premium brands. Reply
retrospooty - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - link"The screens, trackpads, and keyboards on most notebooks are garbage. It would be great if more were as good as Apple's, but then that would jack up their prices further and nerds who only see pricetags would complain that they are "overpriced""
Alot of people dont care about those things. That is the good thing about PC's. You can get low end or high end and only pay for features you care about. Reply
ArmanUV - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkThat's a "good thing"? How on earth can you not care about the screen, trackpad and keyboard? What good is a beefed up internal hardware when you have to suffer everytime you actually have to use the device?
Do people buy laptops to brag about the cpu/gpu or do they actually use it? Reply
robco - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkThat's the problem though, the XPS line is supposed to be high-end. If they wanted to make a cheaper ultrabook, they should have made it an Inspiron. There should be a higher quality baseline for a higher end product line. Reply
tipoo - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkAgreed. Everything about this thing looked great, besides the resolution (and the battery could be better, but I don't usually go that long unplugged). Reply
nklak - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI am CEO of dell partner company, and requested Vostro V131 as soon as it was availavable in channel. Great notebook, excelent ergonomy (superb battery capacity and design) etc. etc. After 3 days of looking to lousy screen, ditched it to my wife and bought myself a sony. I still think that V131 is BETTER overall than sony Z but I COULD NOT look into it. This 768p dimm screens with no life on them are terrible. I am bussinesman, I dont watch movies on 13.3" so 16:10 (1440x900) is far more usable for all bussines apps. Reply
kmmatney - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkMy pesonal opinion is that the 16:9 ratio just does not work well with smaller screens. It only becomes acceptable at 17", (although I probably could live with a 15" screen at 1600 x 900). I'm still using a work-provided 1920 x 1200 17" Dell from 2006. I'm approved for a new laptop, but just don't want to lose the beautiful screen I have now. I'm seriously thinking about getting a MacBook and running windows on it. Reply
Cloudie - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - link'Aesthetics are almost always a matter of taste, but I continue to personally prefer the looks of the XPS 13 to the other ultrabooks on the market barring the hot pink Zenbook ASUS produces.'
This line tickled me! haha. Also loving the aesthetics of the XPS 13 but it's a shame about the other stuff. Thanks for the great review! Reply
Ryan1981 - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkHi, I was wondering, I don't know the meaning of the expression barring in this context (I am dutch :P) Would you care to explain what the reviewer means by "barring the zenbook"
Thanks a lot Reply
Cloudie - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkBarring in this context means 'except' or 'with the exception of'. :) Reply
dfiler76 - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkExactly. In other words, what the reviewer means is:
'Aesthetics are almost always a matter of taste, but I continue to personally prefer the looks of the XPS 13 to nearly all the other ultrabooks on the market. The only one I think looks nicer is the hot pink Zenbook ASUS produces.' Reply
Ryan1981 - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkThanks a lot both :D Reply
r3loaded - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkAll these bandwagon-jumping ultrabooks are soon to be rendered irrelevant by the upcoming Asus Zenbook UX21A/UX31A. Both will feature a 1920x1080 IPS panel as an upgrade option, immediately placing it above and beyond almost every other laptop in terms of display quality. Reply
ZekkPacus - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkThing is, a good panel shouldn't be an upgrade option. These devices are premium products - this ultrabook as reviewed is a $1500 machine. For that kind of cash, I want a 1440*900 IPS panel AS A MINIMUM. Reply
retrospooty - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI know, it sucks too, because this is a really nice laptop outside of the crap screen. Reply
mmaestro - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkAgreed.
What manufacturers don't seem to realize is that a large part of consumers' perception of quality is to do with the screen. It is, after all, the thing you spend all day staring at, and so if it's crap, it's what you'll notice. This is IMO why Apple has such a perception of quality to do with their products: They don't compromise on their screens, they use absolutely beautiful panels. Until other manufacturers try to compete with that then they'll carry the perception that their product is substandard. It's stupid, and this should be obvious. Yet next to no one seems to realize this. Reply
fuzzymath10 - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI think in the price categories people focus on, screen quality is not very important. Seems like more cores, more GBs of RAM, more TBs of space (SSD loses out here where it shouldn't), more inches of LCD are what sell.
Also, while high res displays have been an option for ages (my Dell Inspiron 8500 from 2003 has a 1680x1050 display which was a $100 upgrade from 1280x800, and another $100-150 got you 1920x1200), it did also cost me $2500. If we say that's $3000 today, we have many high res options at our disposal. Reply
ThreeDee912 - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkApple seems to focus a lot on the things people actually interact with the most, like the screen, trackpad, keyboard, and battery, as well as build quality. The actual specs are balanced. Not excessively powered that it kills the battery, but now so crap that it makes things feel sluggish. It makes sense, and this strategy seems to be working well.
It's somewhat like the megapixel (and now optical zoom) wars. There's a lot more to cameras then the spec sheet. Reply
Sabresiberian - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkIt's not an Ultrabook, but Apple is rumored to be releasing a 2880x1800 notebook soon (2nd quarter this year is what I read), a notebook with closer to a tablet screen AND 16:10. I'm not a fan of Apple the company, but that's a head-turner for me, and it's the first time I've considered Apple in the running for a purchase since the Lisa (which was just dreaming back then as there was no way I could afford one).
As far as I'm concerned, 16:9 is exponentially worse as screen size goes down; 16:10 or 4:3 should be what notebooks and smaller screen have.
;) Reply
makaronen - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI created an account here just to applaud Dustin Sklavos in summarizing the annoyment I feel about PC manufacturers and the useless screens they put in premium laptops. A good screen in every high end laptop with stable viewing angles and high contrast should be a minimum as ZekkPacus puts it!
Asus UX31A will hopefully be a game changer and a VERY late wake-up call for PC manufacturers... Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkWow it cant do anything without going to 80 celcius? lol what a piece of trash. Is that really what you get for $1000? What can this steaming pile of trash do that a $500 notebook cant do? Reply
Rinadien - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkummm.... weigh less than 3 lbs??? Reply
Taft12 - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkand a Core i7 CPU. Reply
Sabresiberian - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI really don't put much stock in the opinion of someone who posts like this. The only "steaming pile" I smell here is Shadowmaster's flame.
Can we have the option of voting posts down? Not something connected to Facebook, just for this site. Reply
bji - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkWhat, you don't like his opinion and you want to suppress it? Lame. Reply
Sabresiberian - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkWhat I want is for people to treat each other civilly, have some sense of decency and not call companies "steaming piles". What I want is for people that post like this to get that it's not cool, all it does is irritate people and create a bad impression.
If he doesn't like Dell or one of their products, by all means post the reasons he doesn't like them, but keep the name-calling out of it, please. I wouldn't down-vote anyone for disagreeing with me, but I would anyone for making a stupid, foul, or pointless post. (Stupid usually means, to me, a post showing that the person didn't even bother to read the article.)
The fact is, most people that talk like that don't even have any personal experience with the company they are bad-mouthing. They are just flapping their gums.
Also, I said nothing about hiding posts that have a high negative vote count. Tomshardware does that, and I don't like it. To me, voting a post down is about telling the person his post was unacceptable, please do better next time, not about hiding it from anyone - that's censorship, and that I don't go for.
;) Reply
kevith - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI must say, that if I were to work on a 13" computer, with a screen-res of 1920x1080, I would not be able to see or read anything at all.
It was better they redefined the ultra-book dogme to include a larger chassis carrying a 15" screen instead.
Then we could have ful HD AND be able to actually see something as well. Reply
LOL__Wut__Axel - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI don't understand how mid-40s idle and low 80s are unacceptable for Sandy Bridge notebook CPUs. Those numbers seem like what you'd expect; the problem with the XPS 13 is that due to the bad ventilation the chassis gets hot and the fan gets loud.
I have an SB Core i5 laptop and even under the most stressful test, IBT, it turbos to the max 2.7GHz on all threads even with a temp. in the low 80s. The difference is it has good ventilation and doesn't get loud or hot. Reply
smithme08 - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI agree that its a very valid point to mention that many/most other ultrabooks have a memory card reader, while this model does not, however I would argue the level of importance attached to having one in general.
Yes, cameras and phones still use these cards, however practically all of them ALSO support attachment via USB. Personally (and tastes may vary), I'd much rather plug in a USB cable than open up the device and remove the memory card. That does mean you have to carry a cable, which might be a slight negative to some. However, removing the card reader and ADDING one or two more USB ports would seem to serve people better in general considering the wide variety of USB devices out there.
That said, this machine does NOT add any additional ports so it seems like they went with the worst of all possible scenarios and that's a shame :(
I'd like to do a friendly informal poll :) Maybe I'm seriously in the minority. How many people would prefer additional USB ports versus a memory card reader, and how many would prefer the reader? Reply
AmdInside - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkFrankly the lack of SD card reader doesn't bother me. My DSLR cameras use CF cards and that is what I prefer since it is a bit harder to lose/drop CF cards than SD cards. Since no laptop includes CF card reader, I am used to having to carry with me a CF card reader. Reply
dagamer34 - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkPlus, unless that CF card reader is hooked up to USB 3.0, it's speed is wasted. Reply
Beenthere - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkWeight is good. CPU and graphics suck. Price is absurd @ $999 let alone insane at $1500.
This crap is why AMD Trinity is going to kill Intel with $500 ultrathins with more performance for hundreds less. Reply
snuuggles - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI'm confused, is the intel cpu $500 more than the equivalent AMD cpu? I agree that the price is high, but I doubt the cpu price is the only thing pushing it. Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkLook at prices on 256GB SSDs and you'll find a major culprit for the price hike. Reply
silverblue - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkAgreed. It's a little unfair to lay the blame squarely at the feet of the i7. Besides, Trinity will be very hard pressed to have clocks at that level with a discrete-class GPU and still only fit in its purported 17W envelope. Reply
Beenthere - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkWhen Trinity arrives and delivers the goods people will just laugh at the Ultrabook and the absurd pricing and lack of performance. Reply
fic2 - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkIs that an echo from Bulldozer I hear? Reply
KitsuneKnight - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI doubt remember the Bulldozer fans sounding so hilarious... Reply
tecknurd - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkLet us see the i3 processor performs better than any A8 processor that AMD has to offer. Sure Intel graphics suck, but what kinds of people are going to use this notebook. Mainly people that are casual users and not gamers. Intel graphics is overwhelming plenty for casual users. The i7 processor is high performance processor, so Intel is still better when Trinity comes out. The cost is related to the SSD, so any AMD system will cost the same. Trinity have to be at least 30% faster or even better 50% better because the highest model of the first generation Bulldozer is just as fast as an Athlon II. Intel's Sandy Bridge i-series processors a much faster than Athlon II and Phenom II processors, so AMD has a lot of work they need to do to catch up. Really AMD have to introduce the third generation of Bulldozer to equal the performance of Sandy Bridge. When that happens Intel has already introduced Haswell. Say all you want but Trinity will not beat Intel's offering even you troll hard enough. It just not going to happen. AMD's arrogance is getting in their way of making highly competitive processors. Reply
Autisticgramma - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkIts a pc with Aesthetics. Otherwise known as a wannabe apple. The reason it sucks so much is, what dell is attempting to produce is a product with apple's margin, via apples looks. Again no dice. I'd be happy if Dell stuck with what made it the behemoth it is. Ugly office hardware that works. There's a reason office PC's look like crap. So you don't stea - I mean 'misplace' them.
What ever happened to computer parts on anandtech? I mean tablets and phones, share parts with computers. If I want a real part review sadly I must visit another site these days. I mean for an apples to apples comparison. "Today were testing the Samsung Galaxy S II against the nVidia 580, in direct x 11 applications...."
(Hyperbole may have been used to convey the feeling of disappointment with the declining quality of my favorite site.)
-Gramma Reply
Sabresiberian - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkAnandtech runs "computer parts" articles all the time.
They have more editors than they used to, so there is more room for other types of hardware.
Of course, I don't expect you to understand that even after it's pointed out, because the first part of your post demonstrates that you "wannabe" a person who can think.
;) Reply
tipoo - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - link"Its a pc with Aesthetics. Otherwise known as a wannabe apple. "
What? There are plenty of "wannabe" Apple products out there, but you're only criteria is good aesthetics? That makes no sense. This looks like a good original design to me, ventilation aside. Reply
NCM - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkCF is strong and lightweight, but it has poor thermal transfer compared to aluminum. The resulting trade-off for this Dell is compromised cooling, and it shows in these test results. This is already an area that's something of a challenge for densely packaged ultrabooks, and while the CF bottom case may protect your lap from getting toasted, those watts have to go somewhere. Or as here, fail to go somewhere, instead driving up processor core temperatures.
The author's conclusion that the XPS 13 represents "an excellent starting point" may well be accurate, but what kind of a selling point is that for Dell? I don't know about anyone else, but when I shop I'm looking for a fully realized product, not one that may eventually become adequate in some future version. Reply
jigglywiggly - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkclevo laptops have good displays
i have the p151hm1/np8130 and it has an amazing 95% ntsc color gamut display. 15in 1920x1080 Reply
bennyg - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkYep can't wait till Clevo make an ultrabook. It might not look spectacular but if their P150/151 line is anything to go by it'll look like a 2000 Thinkpad but have an awesome screen :)
I got P150HM with 1080p 95% gamut matte display and its even more awesome than the 15.6" Truelife in my previous Dell. The point everyone's whining about is WHY are NBs with great displays the exception? Why has the ONLY option for a 900p/1080p screen in <14 inch been the Vaio Z for over 2 years ??!
I also have a cheap netbook - Acer Aspire One D255E - with a screen that is astonishingly good, I was massively surprised (bought it 2nd hand for chips). It's only 600 px high which is of course the major bummer but I reckon it craps all over a great deal of notebooks even 5 times its price. Reply
ndizzy - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkIn case people want to see the inside of Dell XPS 13, here is a teardown video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Jzr1gSHHw Reply
QChronoD - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkAny word on if you guys are going to be getting either or both of these machines in for a review? I totally agree that most of the machines out there have absolutely crap screens, and for $1,000+ we should be able to get much better. I'm hoping that both of these live up to the hype from their announcement. Reply
Kelly - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI may be stupid and/or ignorant but: What unit is the temperature in?
Thanks for a nice review :) Reply
dfiler76 - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkThe reviewer states that the XPS 13 is idling in the mid 40s.
45 deg F = 7 deg C (which would be way under the ambient temperature). Therefore it must be measured in Celsius.
I can understand why you weren't sure though: If blocking the bottom vent can push the core temps within a whisker of boiling point then I wonder about the longevity of the components... Reply
lukarak - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkThere's the first problem, the bottom vent. Small portable laptops with a bottom vent are just not practical. Apple does it much better. Reply
ExodusC - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI'm so miffed- why do manufacturers continue to make otherwise well-rounded, or even great "Ultrabooks," but pack them with such awful screens?
If anything, I would sacrifice color reproduction on a 13" panel for a higher pixel density than what you get with these ~720p displays.
Hell, the 1600x900 resolution on my laptop's roughly 14" panel feel much more significant than 720p. Reply
rwei - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkDidn't you have an A8Jm at some point? And now an x100e?
I went A8Jm -> Envy 17 + x120e... Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI had an A8Jm a loooooooonnnnnng time ago. If you're remotely interested in the history of Dustin's laptops (which he changes out like once a year because he can't settle on anything for too long):
A8Jm -> HP dv6000z -> HP dv2000t -> ASUS X83 -> Dell Studio 17 + ThinkPad X100e -> Alienware M17x R3 + ThinkPad X100e Reply
rwei - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkSo what you're saying is that you change machines SLIGHTLY more often than I do =/
Oddly, though, for the first time, I have trouble seeing any reason why I'd upgrade for some time, other than hardware/battery wear (and I have 2 batteries for the Envy, so...). I game way less than before - besides, the Envy 17 is still potent enough for pretty much anything I throw at it - and I don't see anything on the horizon that would require more performance. That was not at all true when I owned the A8Jm. Even the x120e is plenty for browsing, video watching, and whatever else I'd do on the go. Only complaint about my current setup is that the Envy 17 -> Thinkpad x120e transition is really jarring with the $)*@ing bad screen on the x120e...I wish, so dearly wish, I could stick a "New iPad" screen on the x120e (time to get a dremel tool and soldering iron??). Would be just about a perfect device.
The only thing I can think of that would make me upgrade is a Win8 tablet/notebook hybrid (which I partly bought a WP7 device in anticipation of), but I see that being at least 2 years out for reasonably mature hardware and a good software ecosystem.
It's a strange thing that, these days, when (normal) people ask me "what computer should I buy", I can pretty much entirely discount the performance of the CPU as a consideration (barring Atom, and sometimes Zacate netbooks - "yeah, sure, that one's 60-150% faster, but who cares?!").
AMD might be on to something with their new strategy. Reply
Hulk - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkOkay that's it. My 5 year old Inspiron with a half decent high resolution screen and a C2D at 2GHz is going to have to hold me until I can buy a relatively thin and light laptop (~1" thick and around 4lbs) with a good IPS screen.
If I'm going to suffer I might as well suffer with my current lappy and save some money. I'll just put an SSD in it when the performance gets unbearable. Reply
bji - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI'm with you. Except my laptop is a 7 year old Panasonic Y2 with a Pentium M at 1.6 Ghz, and I'm just holding out for a 15 inch Macbook Air, which I thought was supposed to come out Q1 this year but is completely MIA at this point. Reply
santeana - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - linkI've never been a fan of Dell. But if ever they had a good laptop, it was their XPS line. Great performance for the price they offered it at. Now, to see an XPS machine, supposedly a premium mainstream laptop going from a discrete graphics solution to an onboard HD3000 chip.... I dunno. Just doesn't seem right to me. Reply
c4v3man - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkXPS laptops have always been hit or miss. Exceptionally heavy, usually run somewhat hot, and questionable reliability. The best laptops are enterprise grade units and mobile workstations, such as Dell's Latitude's, their Precision Mobiles, HP's EliteBooks, and Toshiba's Tecra lines to name a few.
It might be good for gaming, but not for much else. Reply
bhima - Tuesday, March 13, 2012 - link2 things Dell could have done to make this Ultrabook look better than the competition:
1) a good MATTE screen. I do not understand why we still have glossy screens on mobile devices (except for phones because the gorilla glass is needed for protection), especially when all of the best screens whether desktop or laptop are all matte.
2) Where is my Dell docking station jack? It may seem like a "little" thing, but having a Dell docking station and using a Dell laptop as your main computer is actually quite amazing. Having instant access to more ports, real keyboard and mouse AND a nice second display really solidifies the laptop as a capable primary workstation. When you are on the go, you hit one button and take your laptop off the dock. This should be on EVERY Dell laptop.
These things would set it apart from the entire competition and would give people good reasons to choose this Dell over say a MacBook Air. Reply
Malih - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkThe touchpad is basically what I'm complaining about today's laptops, specifically Windows laptops, Apple does really well in this departement.
But I've seen the demo video in YouTube (/watch?v=mL_jasHqrVI) for the Synaptics Clickpad with WIndows 8 which seems to be quite sensitive and seems to tackle most issue I have with current touchpads,
I just wonder whether they will release the Clickpad before Windows 8 release, perhaps coupled with laptops with decent graphics, like Trinity laptops (possibly). Reply
Stas - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkI'm really liking this laptop. Sexy, quick, Windows, 256GB SSD for <$1500. Too I wouldn't use one much. Between power of my desktop and portability of the smart phone, I'm hard pressed to justify hauling a laptop around. Reply
Stas - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkToo bad* Reply
Penti - Wednesday, March 14, 2012 - linkI think this is pretty much spot on, on connectivity actually. Mini-DisplayPort is a plus, especially if you are running a high-res monitor when you use this as your desktop replacement or main machine with your 27" or 30" monitor as you need the DisplayPort in order to put out and feed a 2560x1440 monitor or 2560x1600 monitor, or anything over 1920x1200 that HDMI on SNB/older graphics can handle. It's easily converted to HDMI or VGA, and having only one of those is a minus. I do miss ethernet, but it's no deal killer here. Display and resolution is too bad it's not better otherwise it does look like a good ultra-portable. It has no worse display then virtually any competition. A x220 with IPS wouldn't be much more expensive though. Personally I think mini-DisplayPort and USB3 is pretty good on the connectivity side for this market any how. Does look like a clean computer with understated but good styling. Certainly looks like a one of the better ultrabooks. Reply
MistahJayden - Thursday, March 15, 2012 - linkI love everything I've heard about the computer except for that screen resolution...it's freakin killing me here.
Can they update it? Or would I need to look for another laptop in it's place?
It's not that bad, it's just I prefer a smaller looking interface. Reply
EricZBA - Friday, March 16, 2012 - link1366x768 is a crime against humanity. The predecessor to this unit, the Dell Studio XPS 13, had a gorgeous 13.3 inch LED LCD with 1280x800 resolution. I wish they would have built upon the awesomeness of that notebook. Reply
zlyles - Tuesday, April 03, 2012 - linkJust a heads up...
When Dell first released this ultrabook, we ordered two for some of our sales reps. With i5, 4GB memory, 128GB SSD, and Win 7 Pro, the price was $1,192 before tax.
It took nearly a month to get the laptop, and we liked it so much we got a quote for two more. This time the quote came back at $1,500 per, with the same exact specs.
Our Dell rep informed us due to supply and demand, Dell had increased the price and $1,500 was as low as he could get now.
Personally I think it's BS to launch a product, then jack the price by over 25% within the first 3 weeks of it's release because of how well it is received.
On the bright side, it is the only wedge design ultrabook of this caliber I have found with TPM hardware for encrypting the hard drive. Reply
WolfOfDeath - Monday, July 02, 2012 - linkThe author isnt sold on the Ultrabook class? He must one of the most daft people in the world. Ultrabooks are and will take over the entire laptop market. Few if any people will want laptops now if for no other reason than battery life. How short sighted can someone be? Wow, just wow. Reply


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Q: Do I have to use an enamel covered cast iron pan?
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A: I don't know. I would just stick to all-purpose.
Q: What size is my pan?
A: My smallest pan is 5.5 quart. You can use as small as a 3 quart.
Q: What type of yeast do I use?
A: I use SAF instant yeast. Any yeast should work.
Q: Why is my bread turning out flat?
A: I don't know. You could try using less 1/4 cup less liquid. Or add a bit more flour. Make sure you dough appears to be dry when you first mix it. It will have more moisture during the rising time.
Q: Can my dough sit out longer than 18 hours? Does it HAVE to be between 12-18 hours?
A: I have let some dough sit as long as 24 hours and the bread was beautiful.
Q: Have you tried Gluten-free?
A: No. I'm still waiting for someone to venture into the realm of Gluten-free. If you try it, let everyone know.
Q: Do I have to grease or oil the pan? Will my bread stick?
A: No you don't need to grease the pan. I have never had the bread stick when using a cast iron pot. I haven't tried anything else. The best way to be certain that the bread won't stick is to form the loaf on a sheet of parchment paper and lift the bread into the pan using the sides of the parchment. Leave the paper in the pan. It's won't burn. When the bread has baked, just lift the sides of the parchment out of the pan. Voila!
This note added 3/15/12: I tried Rye bread. It was delicious. I tried two different recipes. One was 1/2 rye flour and 1/2 white flour then added 1/2 teaspoon caraway seeds. For the first time it didn't rise much. The loaf was about 2-inches high. Made great focaccia, however. The second loaf was 1 cup Rye flour and 2 cups white flour, 1/2 teaspoons caraway seeds. I sprinkled caraway seeds on top. It turned out wonderful and made some fabulous pastrami, Swiss and grilled onion panini's.
Gluten Free photo sent from Star:
Star's recipe for GF bread: Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I love this bread so much and have made it many times with great success. Today was the first time I tried to make it gluten-free. I thought I'd share my experience for anyone who is wondering. I made absolutely no changes to the recipe. I simply used all purpose gluten-free flour (which already contains the correct amount of xanthan gum; more specifically, I use Jules Gluten Free Flour) in place of regular all purpose gluten-free flour. I made no other changes. No changes to amounts. I probably left it in the oven about 7 or so minutes longer. Very crunchy on the outside. I didn't let it brown much at all because felt it would get too hard -- it was already very crunchy. The inside was not as I would have expected. It's almost more raw-like. That's probably not the right word. It was more gooey? -- Just not as dry-like/bready....it was just different. But it tasted very good. And tasted like the crusty bread made with regular white flour. Didn't taste any different for being gluten-free. It also smelt just as good. It was smaller. In fact, I really don't think it rose. I wonder if you could just by-pass that step when you use gluten-free flour (I've heard gluten-free breads don't really rise) of having it sit overnight and just pop it in the oven right away. But it was very good and everyone loved it. And it got eaten just as fast as the regular version.


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Moving from Detention to Prevention
While at a community event recently, I was asked what I do for a living. I have a love/hate relationship with this question. On one hand, I'm typically happy to tell people that I work to prevent sexual violence. But sometimes, I just don't want to open that can of worms. But I decided to delve into my spiel about prevention, and mentioned the importance of effective treatment for those who offend. "Do you really believe they can be rehabilitated?" said the person in disbelief. She made her opinion clear: rehabilitation of sex offenders was NOT possible. It brought to mind our research with the Frameworks institute around the many misconceptions some people have about perpetrators.
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Intel's Atom N2600, N2800 & D2700: Cedar Trail, The Heart of the 2012 Netbookby Anand Lal Shimpi on 12/28/2011 11:00 AM EST
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matheusber - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkwell, I was hoping there would be gain in performance, but as all is the same, a netbook may last 1 month in battery, if all runs slow it won't matter. I have an Acer running second gen Atom and Vista, and it has no hurry whatsoever to do anything.
Thanks AMD for E-Series.
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MrSpadge - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkE350 or E450 with an SSD, that's the way to go. Add a Thinkpad keyboard and a good screen while we're at it ;) Reply
yankeeDDL - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkI agree.
Brazos is a big winner for mobile.
Of course, since Intel is sponsoring much of teh ultrabook development, they'll have a huge spot anyway.
Still, I look forward to a comparison between cedar trail and brazos.
Since "Krishna" and "Wichita" seem to have been canceled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Fusion), to be replaced by a version with an "enhanced bulldozer" core, I wonder how will the competition be in 2012.
I have an E350 (on an HP DM1Z) and could not be happier. Well, no, I could: power is never enough, but it is lightyears from the older Atoms.
It would be nice an in depth comparison between Cedar Trail and Brazos, as well as some updated info on AMD's plans for 2012... Reply
fteoath64 - Sunday, January 01, 2012 - linkAgreed. I also cannot believe WHY Intel would release this junk at this time. They have nothing else better to do?. In the time where most OEMs are giving up on netbooks and going towards tablets, this chip is about 4 years late yet under performing in graphics. A real shame. Reply
nukunukoo - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkSame Atom, performance is just masked by the GPU. Meh. Let the "fast enough" crowd troll in... Reply
therealnickdanger - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkI guess it all depends upon how diverse the "integrated full HD video decode" and "HD audio" actually is. Dual-core (4 threads) plus truly FULL video decode beyond just H.264 should be plenty fast for many people. If the the video decode also properly transmits 1080p at 23.976Hz instead of 24.000Hz (unlike Sandy Bridge) along with HD audio codecs, then this could be a VERY popular low-power HTPC platform. But we'll have to wait for more details. Reply
maroon1 - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkD2700 has clock speed of 2.13GHz (which is higher than any older D series)
N2800 has clock speed of 1.83GHz (which is higher than any older Dual Core N series)
So, saying that there is no CPU speed improvement is very misleading. It might have similar IPC, but clock speed went up and TDP went down
ALso, people here are comparing those to E-350. This ridiculous. Netbook that use this processor cost over $360
While the ones that going to use N2600 and N2800 are going cost below $240. Not sure why people comparing two products with two different price range and TDP.
I mean it more fair to compare those newer atoms to C-50 or C-60 which is closer in price and TDP. Cheapest C-60 netbook on newegg cost $310 (which is still more expensive) Reply
mmaestro - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkIf the N2600 can be made fanless, why not? I have an Oak Trail based tablet I'm using right now, and the damn thing's useless. For basic, basic tasks I don't think it needs a lot more punch, but 4GB of DDR3 and dual cores would make a huge difference in what is an extraordinarily frustrating experience right now. With any luck, we'll see some tablets coming soon at CES. Reply
dmk2000 - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkWell. That is a reason I got MSI Windpad 110w with AMD APU. Upgraded Toshiba slow SSD with Adata 60 Gb one and now this thing is a blast. With HDMA I connected this thing to 46" LCD and it is a great player 1080p.
No Atom can touch it (did I say it last about 4 hours on battery).
So this new refreshed ATOMs are waist of time. Reply
LtGoonRush - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkIt would be nice to see Intel fix their long-standing architectural error of separating out the memory controller and processor cores. (For those unaware, they're on the same piece of silicon but are still on separate devices with a very short FSB connecting them). This approach seems like it would save power and die area compared to Intel's current Clarkdale-esque method, but who knows. The big deal is improving memory latency and throughput, which can help a LOT on devices with integrated graphics. Overall it seems like Intel just isn't trying very hard, something they can only get away with because AMD has had trouble scaling production of their Brazos APUs. Reply
GTVic - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkYes, that architecture shortcut was mentioned in AnandTech's previous reviews of the original Atom and the Pine Trail version.
I'm surprised that this article didn't explicitly state whether there was a change in this area as the previous articles focused on that as a major limitation to the performance. Reply
DanNeely - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkThe lack of mention, combined with Intel repeatedly stating the new atom architechture won't launch until 2013 almost certainly means no change. Ripping out on-die FSB would be a major change; intel would've had to commit to doing this a few years ago to create an intermediate part between the current platform and Atom2013. Since Intel was heavily talking up Atom as its gateway to phones initially I suspect the sucess of the netbook/nettop platforms caught them by surprise and it was too late for an intermediate design to be inserted into the lineup. Reply
jontech - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkToo bad the iPad hasn't killed off this evil spawn
Ultrabooks is where its at...... Reply
A5 - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkNetbooks cost half as much as even the cheapest iPad and a quarter as much as an Ultrabook. There's probably not much of a market for these in the USA and Europe anymore, but I'm guessing they do pretty well in East Asia, India, and South America. Reply
Mygaffer - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkWell duh an Ultrabook is much better, you are talking about something at the opposite end of the price spectrum. Reply
name99 - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkApple's story for low-end devices is simple --- if you want a cheap MacBook, you buy it on eBay, not from Apple. It's slower and not as pretty --- what do you expect for something cheaper --- but it does the job.
I suspect that many Netbook owners would do well to follow the same model. If you're buying a Netbook solely because you want something cheap, you're probably better off buying a year-old laptop from eBay. Reply
blue922 - Monday, January 23, 2012 - linkNot evil, not spawn.
Try to shoot 32-128 GB of video on a trip and load that into your iPad. Netbooks still do large storage on the go better than any tablet. That will be true for some time yet. So don't let your biases and lack of creative thinking dis something you have not all the way through about. Reply
MonkeyPaw - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkSo when is Intel going to reward us with an out of order low power architecture? So far, all Atom advancements have been rather sad. Since Atom arrived, both ARM and AMD have surpassed it. When is Intel going to bring out the big guns? So far, it looks like a pretty aimless product line with little hope of success. Like Intel graphics, it's another "wait until next time" marketing job. Reply
A5 - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkAtom still smokes even the fastest ARM CPUs, and Zacate plays in what is essentially a completely different TDP range. This is just an incremental update enabled by a process shrink - they'll update the architecture when they feel like they need to. Reply
frozentundra123456 - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkCan it be the same company that produces this as that produces Sandy Bridge? Unbelievable that they could not make more improvements than this in all these years. I have been looking at getting a tablet, but still would almost prefer a netbook if they came with something besides atom. My ideal would be something like the HP dm1 with the E450, but at a netbook price. Right now, it is running more than 400.00 which seems like a lot for a netbook size device. If something like that could be avaliable for 300.00, that would be awesome. Reply
Stuka87 - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkWhile I think this chip should have better battery life than an E350, I am really wondering if its going to be any faster. The graphics certainly are less than spectacular, even my phone has far faster graphics (543MP2) and it runs a lower resolution.
Its almost comical how Intel's high end parts are blind blowing fast, yet their low end stuff is just so lacking in any sort of real updates. Combined with the delays that it has had, they are leaving this market wide open for AMD. Reply
madmilk - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkI highly doubt your phone's graphics are "far faster". Remember, typically PowerVR GPUs are clocked at 200MHz, maybe 300 at most. This thing has a SGX545 running at 640MHz, should more than compensate for being single core.
That said, PowerVR Windows drivers... Even worse than Intel's, while AMD and nVidia are both on another level. Reply
Boissez - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkThe tablet-friendly low-TDP atom part has a PowerVR running @400MHz, meanwhile the TI OMAP 4460 (eg. Galaxy Nexus, Moto RAZR) has the same chip running @384Mhz, just barely slower. But then both the Apple A5 and Samsung Exynos are far superior in terms of graphical prowess. Reply
dealcorn - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - linkWith the N2600's ~1.9 watt kit average power requirement, it looks like maybe you could add 512 MB of RAM and an Intel 320 SSD for a home server that draws about 3 watts at the wall. On the other hand, I have never seen anyone look at power supply efficiency at these output levels.
Currently I draw about 22 watts for a router/firewall/p2p daemon station and electricity costs $10/watt for 3 years 24/7 use. Switching to 3 watts saves me $190 in electric bills every 3 years. I have a soft spot for free stuff that works.
There is some disagreement whether AMD's recent success in the netbook space is due to their gaming excellence or the fact that they do 1080p and Atom does not. The release of Cedar Trail should provide more insight on that question. I never really bought the line that netbooks are the next credible gaming platform. Reply
tpi2009 - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkHi Anand, good to know the new Atoms are coming.
There is one error in the article:
"The only exception is the D2700 which is a 10W platform. Note that this is the total TDP for the Atom SoC + the NM10 Express chipset (providing USB, LAN, PCIe, etc...). "
This can't be the case with the D2700 because, as you will notice in a table below that has CPU - only TDPs, the D2700 is rated at 10w for the CPU, so the CPU + NM10 chipset will use more power.
Cheers, and a great 2012 to you and the rest of the team! Reply
Malih - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkwow, PowerVR really? Does that mean gaming is not an option with the new Atom...?
I wonder how PowerVR will handle Windows XP drivers. Reply
Stuka87 - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkIt wont would be my guess. You can't buy new Netbooks with XP anymore (unless they are just left over NOS or something). With as many driver issues as Intel has had with this chip, I doubt they are going to put them time into making an old unsupported OS work. Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkWhy didnt intel integrate the chipset? I think they could have gotten total platform power down to 3 watts. This is almost 2012 after all. Reply
dealcorn - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkIf you look at the first really big blue box above, it is using complicated words to say that this System on a Chip ("SOC") is fully integrated including everything that should be there. Out of deference to a former Alaska governor some consider it impolite to use the "R" word. In your case, I suspect people would understand your intent if you said, for example, "Intel is really mirror." Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Friday, December 30, 2011 - linkhttp://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/I...
Sure looks like two chips to me. Can we get some clarification here? Reply
atomt - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkSo now that Atom is going all out PowerVR - which is very nice from a perf per watt point of view - but where does this leave open source support? Linux on PowerVR is a miserable experience. The bleeding edge is more or less at the svga-level (when it happens to work), and even that hasn't really reached any distro release yet.
I suspect any decent level of acceleration will be limited to closed firmwares/platforms, as it is today. Reply
ET - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkThe SGX 545 is capable of DX10.1, but is probably listed as DX9 due to driver issues.
These Atoms will take a lot less power than the AMD solution, and one is even designed for fanless systems, so I think they could be interesting solutions. We'll have to wait and see. There's also the price aspect, and looks like Intel is aiming lower than where AMD currently sits. Reply
DanNeely - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - linkWhen intel launched it it was at 45nm, and is listed in their ark database as a 2.1W part; but the tables above are implying it as only 1.5W (5/8W total, 3.5/6.5W for the CPU). Either way it's a rather large chunk of the total, and dropping to 32nm should chop a decent chunk off the total allowing for either longer battery life or marginally higher processor clocks. (1.73 and 2.0 ghz mobile?) Reply
Menno rapt - Friday, December 30, 2011 - linkThe new high speed wifi "WiGig" routers from Orbital use this processor in their low end routers the Phantom and the Spitfire. FOr the high end they even use core I3's
Their 802.11ad draft goes to 10G/sec wireless with these chips and can stream up to 2 movies simultaneously to different screens over the WiFi
Not sure though which type of Cedar Trail they are integrating?
you can see them here; http://www.orbital-networks.com/index.php?option=c... Reply
rundll - Friday, December 30, 2011 - linkVast majority of the commentators seem to miss the goodies in new Atom:
- low TDP allowing fanless constructions (that's something new!)
- excellent power efficiency, hence superior battery time
- price, price, price hence cheap, cheap, cheap products
Pitting the new Atom against AMD's E-series processors is like pitting E-series against Sandy Bridge i3-processors.
The new Atom is in class of it's own, there is no product to compare with. It is untouchable in the low end netbooks for now. Reply
jcarlosmiguel - Monday, February 20, 2012 - linkI shall warn users of the N2600 about x64 Windows support or I should say, the lack of it. The platform would be perfect for MS Home Server 2011... if Intel cares to support it. I don't need to increase memory, just to install the software which is impossible at this time. The alternative is to run a x86 version of Win 7 or, if the target software would allow, Linux. The excuse from Intel is that they are too busy with Win 8....
Go figure...
By the way, board is a Jetway NF9C-N2600 with a crippled BIOS for x64, since some of the drivers from Intel are thin. Reply
ReverendDC - Saturday, March 03, 2012 - link...and see what the OS difference does for the performance of both the Atoms AND AMDs. Of course, beta is beta, but I have doubled my battery and there are half the processes running at any time with the same program loadout and similar registry.
Maybe Intel is waiting for the OS. I think that, at 3200, if you could get a cheap touchscreen into a convertible, I have a feeling that, while it won't actually scream, you won't notice nearly as much of a decline in performance...except for that sticky 1080p thing.... Reply
leo_dagohoy - Thursday, December 20, 2012 - linki have my unit of intel atom 2600 netbbook having problem with the video card got blue screen with playing a light games.. Reply


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