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Pillow Master's Tips and $100 Giveaway
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Beautiful pillows! I especially love the blue chevron lumbar pillow which I pinned. Thanks for sharing.ReplyDelete
Her pillows are amazing-I'll take one of each!ReplyDelete
After I wiped the drool off my keyboard I pinned the cheetah print pillow. I didn't want to pin the ones I actually want so no one else would buy them.ReplyDelete
oh my goodness! I am a pillow hoarder and these are gorgeous! I pinned pillows I love and I really hope you pick me! :) I also really liked the trick with the safety pin, you don't know how many pillow covers I've damaged! Thank you! Crossing my fingers! MelaineReplyDelete
WOWZA this is the most gorgeous group of pillows ever! I pinned and already liked... please please pillow god pick me for the winner!!!ReplyDelete
Beautiful pillows! I've been following your page for a couple of weeks and spent nearly a whole sunday reading your blog. What a beautiful home you have! I love the pillows on this post - would love to be the proud owner of one or two! Happy Saturday, SallyReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Wow!!! Just found your blog over the past week....live just a bit south of you in San Clemente. :) Lido is very dear to me because my grandparents had a home there for years and years. I am a Newport Beach native and have spent so much time there! It's a lovely place.ReplyDelete
I, too, am a pillow junkie. Not everyone knows what an amazing source Etsy is for high-quality pillows. I haven't seen this shop before, and I am very impressed! Would LOVE to win these pillows!!! Thanks for the very generous giveaway!
Remember I need your email address to tell you if you win!Delete
Not only did you change the pillows, you changed the flowers to a fern. I pinned, and liked.ReplyDelete
Great shop and great giveaway, Mary Ann.ReplyDelete
I follow you on facebook and your blog, and I pinned my favorite.
Happy Saturday.
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Just LOVE her pillows...and your blog. :) I have wanted her Windsor Smith RIAD pillow cover in Indigo for months now. Here's hoping!! (email@example.com)ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2012 at 10:41 AM
I just found your blog - and I am now following you on facebook!!! :)ReplyDelete
I LOVE her pillows!!! My favorite pillow right now is the Fuji Modern in Onyx! LOVE IT!! :)
My email is: email@example.com
THANK YOU for such a great giveaway!!
Danielle S
Mary Ann you're killing me this morning! Two of my favorite things....your house and Liana's beautiful pillows! Woody Liana has long been one of my favorite shops on etsy...fabrics and quality second to none!ReplyDelete
All of those pillow combinations look stunning. Making me want to change all of my pillows...again. I'm sweating over here! I really want to win the contest :)
Have a great weekend!
P.S. I pinned the Citron Betwixt...was I supposed to tell you that? Love it!ReplyDelete
These are so fresh an fun.ReplyDelete
Love to give this to my daughter so she can pick out some pillows for her new apartment!ReplyDelete
Oh I love these! I just pinned the magnolia pillows. How pretty! Your daughter is so funny, too (she sounds quick witted!). I am hoping I win, as I would love to use these in the dining room at the end on each chair. Beautiful! I'll be scanning her site for sure. My email is firstname.lastname@example.com
Love her pillows! Such quality work. firstname.lastname@example.com
So glad you are sharing such a great resource- her work is beautiful!! I especially love the Nympheus by Thomas O'Brien pillows. My fingers are crossed extra tight that I win!! :)ReplyDelete
Adore the Jaipur Document it will mix with some pillows I have!!ReplyDelete
It is so cool Mary Ann when You find that a blogger or source is nearby!
Oh and I pinned it as well
Art by Karena
I would love to win some credit from her store! So cute! I pinned a photo on Pinterest!ReplyDelete
As Karen said "Mary Ann....You're killing me! WOW......her pillow are SO divine...I can hardly stand it! Her fabrics and workmanship are amazing and I love the tips on stuffing a pillow (though I did know the part about folding the insert)! I'm now obsessed to make more pillows and I adore the ice blue and citron color combo! Thanks....now I'll have to go on the hunt for more fabrics!!! And YES....I immediately noticed Liana's bracelets....too chic!ReplyDelete
P.S. I just went to Esty and saw her amazing collection of pillows and fell madly in love with about 20 pillows. Love Sinhala in Bittersweet and the Nebaha in Citron. But the thing I was most amazed by are her great prices....don't know how she does it! What a fabulous find Mary Ann!ReplyDelete
I have ordered from her before and was so impressed with her work!ReplyDelete
I love her pillows...and have ordered from her! She is the best!!!!! If I don't win this then I am gonna cry real tears....:) Off to pin.....ReplyDelete
Beautiful pillows - I can't believe how they can totally change the look of a room!ReplyDelete
I would love to win a certificate for Woody Liana's store. I love the way she photographs the pillows showing ways to group them on your own sofa! Beautiful fabric choices and superb craftsmanship!ReplyDelete
oops! my email is firstname.lastname@example.com!ReplyDelete
Would love to win the $100 so I can shopping in Liana's store. So many beautiful things to choose! email@example.com
I've pinned and am already a member here. Would love to own some of these beautiful pillows.ReplyDelete
I like the green and white medallion pillow.ReplyDelete
would love to win this give away
I like the green and white medallion pillow.ReplyDelete
would love to win this give away
Gorgeous pillows! The Schumacher Nebeha is so unique! Thank you for this generous giveaway.ReplyDelete
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I'm an email follower, hope that counts! Her pillows are gorgeous...I went and checked out her store! They look gorgeous in your home! ;)ReplyDelete
I looked at Liana's Etsy shop...what beautiful pillows and the ones you chose for your living room are perfect! Count me in on the give away...firstname.lastname@example.com
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2012 at 2:44 PM
Christopher Farr in Carnival is my favorite, I think, so hard to choose. All are beautiful. Suzi pblapere@ att.netReplyDelete
I have checked out Liana's beautiful pillows out many times on Etsy. I pinned several, my favorite is the Lee Jofa Indian Zag. And I love your pink and green pillow which I did not see on her site. Her pillows look great in your pretty home!ReplyDelete
Really beautiful fabric choices and amazing workwomanship!ReplyDelete
Oops, meant your pink and orange pillow with black stitching, who is the maker?ReplyDelete
This is what I call pillow perfection....LOVE them. They look fabulous, your choices were spot on. I get so excited with pillows...and you are right such a quick and easy way to change things up. I too love the plushness of a wonderful down pillow, the fuller and squishier the better!! Thanks for sharing!ReplyDelete
Lovely pillows and now I know how to correctly stuff one. I'm always struggling trying to stuff the pillow in the covers.....firstname.lastname@example.com
beautiful pillows! I love all the different looks just by making small switches. I'm a follower already. I'm off to check out her site now. thanks!ReplyDelete
I have a question: I do love the feel of the feather/down inserts; but my husband is VERY allergic to them. (And it is not simply of matter of needing to be sure the feathers and down are thoroughly washed.)ReplyDelete
Is there a synthetic product you can recommend that has the quality feel and resilience of feather/down?
I pinned the Kelly Wearstler pillow because I love it; but it doesn't match anything I own. I also love the chevron bar silk pillow in marine, and it looks like it would be a great match in my living room.
Hi, I'm back after looking around her etsy shop--I really love all of her pillows. I pinned the PAIR of 20"sq. Thomas O'Brien NYMPHEUS pillow covers in Teal for my sunroom. That's what I'd get if I win. Oh, please let me win :)ReplyDelete
Momma needs a new set of pillows.
I found her store on Etsy awhile ago and love all her pillows and how she puts others with to show all the options. Definitely one of my favorite Etsy shops!ReplyDelete
WHAT A GREAT GIVEAWAY!! I pinned, and followed on FB!!! I am already a follower here! Love the new look on your sofa!! Such beautiful colors. Pillows are like crack aren't they? Very addictive!ReplyDelete
I adore the Lulu chant reverse in charcoal. her etsy shop is adorable. As is your blog. your styling is wonderful. great giveaway.ReplyDelete
Bec x
- AnonymousNovember 17, 2012 at 4:00 PM
Gorgeous! I love how a pillow changes the look of a room completely. Already a follower and off to check out etsy site. Thank you!ReplyDelete
I am already a follower of your blog. I love the beautiful pillow giveaway. Please include my name.ReplyDelete
Have long been a follower of your blog via GFC! Thanks for hosting this really nice giveaway!ReplyDelete
I pinned the Windsor Smith print pillow. Adore it!ReplyDelete
And I had already "liked" you on FB!!!ReplyDelete
Beautiful pillows and a fun Giveaway! I'm already a follower and like you on FB. I pinned the Schumacher Ikat pillow: love love!ReplyDelete
I just subscribed and I'm in love with the pillows and so appreciate the tutorial. I will pin a few and like you on FB too. Thank you for the opportunity. I've ordered a swatch and I'm ready for pillows! email@example.com
Love the pillows and your blog! You both have great taste!ReplyDelete
Hi MaryAnn and Liana,ReplyDelete
Love pillow talk...most of us do. Pillows really add I love making them, designing them and with them, gifting them to clients, friends and family. Having your pillow dealer close is a fabulous thing lol!
I follow, pin, comment and hope to win!
Pinned this one:ReplyDelete
Love it!
Like you on FB and follow your blog. The pillpow covers are all gorgeous!ReplyDelete
Such beautiful pillows! I love the ones in the post, but didn't find them all in her shop. But I still found some others that I'd love to have! Thank you! I pinned this one http://pinterest.com/pin/55450639133772952/ReplyDelete
I'm a follower!
Love when you have neutral furniture so you can add new pillows and get a whole new look. looks great!ReplyDelete
Thanks for sharing this technique! I loved the Schumacher BETWIXT pillow cover in Indigo in Woody Liana's show but there are so many wonderful other ones also. I like your Facebook page already and follow your blog.ReplyDelete
- Mel@Georgica PondNovember 17, 2012 at 10:21 PM
You're gonna sell a lot of cushions for them - yours look absolutely stunning and I want to change my colour scheme to match. How beautiful are those colours!ReplyDelete
I love the pillows! They ar e beautiful! I pinned my favorite on Pinterest! http://pinterest.com/pin/118993615125854616/ReplyDelete
I follow you via email and I like you on Facebook
- AnonymousNovember 18, 2012 at 7:27 AM
Gosh, these pillow covers are beautiful! I pinned the Wild Berry Belgian velvet pillow. That color is beautiful! Thanks for this giveaway!You can reach me atReplyDelete
I follow her on facebook!ReplyDelete
I pinned the winsdor smith blue pillowReplyDelete
Her pillows are beautiful! I pinned the Quadrille Potalla pillow.ReplyDelete
Thanks for the chance to win!
Yes, I'm a happy follower of your blog. And now following on Facebook.ReplyDelete
Thanks for the chance to win.
Oddly, I've been admiring her pillows the last several weeks and check in on her inventory as of late. Thanks for the chance to win as we're all on budget!ReplyDelete
Bonus to have stumbled on your blog too! I have a passion for design too and learn from folks like you. Just recently launched my own small business and blog.
Thank you!
I LOVE Woody Liana pillows. I always have a wish list going for what I want to purchase next from her. I so want two 22" chiang mai pillows in the aquamarine colorway with the same fabric on front and back! I may have to give up a kidney to get them but am confident it would be worth it! No one gives more attention to the finishing details than Liana, she is hands down the best.ReplyDelete
Angie firstname.lastname@example.com
P.S. love your mercury jug lamp, now its time for me to search your blog for the back story to fin out if the lamp shade is black or navy and where you got it!
just pinned the belgium velvet pillow cover in teal, so beautiful.ReplyDelete
I love the citron color combined with ice blue! The choices Liana carries are all to die for! Karen L. email@example.com
beautiful pillows! I would love to winReplyDelete
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- KristinNovember 18, 2012 at 5:37 PM
She is so talented and has an eye for beautiful fabrics. Love her work! email@example.com
I'm a happy follower! Her pillows are beautiful! I need some! :) So, what size insert do you use? Bigger then the cover? I ave always wondered how to make pillows fuller! Thanks! JulieReplyDelete
I'm already a follower! :)ReplyDelete
And I pinned one of the gorgeous pillows!
thanks so much!
Love these pillows! Thank you for giving us another source for custom pillows, always looking for a great workroom!ReplyDelete
Pinning the pillows now!
Love Love these pillows. Thanks for this shop find!ReplyDelete
I pinned my favorite 20"sq. Schumacher DARYA Ikat pillow cover in Jewel.
and liked you on FB. Fingers crossed...
- AnonymousNovember 18, 2012 at 8:14 PM
Love this shop and love reading your blog - I live in San Diego, not too far from both of you! I pinned onto my pinterest page the 18sq or 20sq Schumacher BETWIXT pillow cover. Would love to win & display the pillow cover in my home! Thank you! Emily firstname.lastname@example.com
I love her shop and I pinned my favorite pillow http://pinterest.com/pin/86975836525283205/ I Also like her on facebookReplyDelete
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I pinned more than just one pillow & liked your site on FB! What beautiful fun pillow covers! Thanks, Blake email@example.com
What a useful tip on stuffing pillows! (I also love the bracelets!) Thanks for letting me know the source of the photo in my post - I have credited it accordingly. Keep well x SharonReplyDelete
These pillows are beautiful and look like they are also beautifully made. Loving the tips for stuffing too.ReplyDelete
I am going to pin some of my favorites now and follow,but I may have already.
Thanks, Kim email@example.com
Her pillows look fabulous on your sofa (beautiful color scheme!) and I really appreciated her tip about the safety pins. I just learned that lesson the hard way). Great post!ReplyDelete
I've ordered pillows from Woody Liana and they are, indeed, top notch quality. I wouldn't have easy access to the designer fabrics she offers and the workmanship of the pillows is outstanding.ReplyDelete
So glad to see her featured!
Kelly email@example.com
Fabulous pillows!!!! Love them all :)ReplyDelete
Wat beautiful pillows, so many beautiful combinations! I love greek key and the Nebaha in Sky pattern has a nice twist. I can see pairing it with the plush velvet and york castle pillow.ReplyDelete
I never knew how to stuff a pillow cover before! I'm going to have to pin this. That is beautiful workmanship on those pillows. So often you see pillows on Etsy with no welt or made with no regard for the pattern (to maximize fabric). I would love to win this gift certificate. In the meantime I'm going to add her shop to my favorites.ReplyDelete
Beautiful pillows and so well made!ReplyDelete
Mary Ann, I confess... I'm addicted to pillows!!! LOL Do you know any designer that isn't??? :-)ReplyDelete
I love these pillows! They're beautiful and stylish. Thank you for sharing these useful tips and for the great giveaway!
Have a wonderful weekend, my friend!
Luciane at HomeBunch.com
PS: I'm a follower and I've pinned one of her pillows.
Hello Mary Ann,ReplyDelete
Love this post and your appreciation for gorgeous pillows!
Thank you for introducing us to this wonderful pillow source, and how fortunate you are to live so close to each other too!
Thanks for stopping by my blog and you are right about us being thrilled about the Bruin victory over USC!! A new era begins :)
Wishing you a most wonderful Thanksgiving.
Lots of Love,
I just "liked" Woody Liana on Facebook! Such beautiful pillows!ReplyDelete
I have been following for 1.5 years and have ordered from her in the past! What awesome taste she has! I'm pinning carnival pillows because I'm thinking about them for our bedroom!!!ReplyDelete
I just found your blog via Between Naps on the Porch. Those pillows are gorgeous. I could see how you have become addicted. I not only liked her shop on FB, but I also pinned a couple pillows on pinterest. This came at a great time as we've been renovating the family room and I've been wanting something different to update the couch etc.ReplyDelete
Of course I follow your wonderful blog! Liked you on facebook as well. Love her pillows so much!ReplyDelete
Just love the pillows. Great giveaway!ReplyDelete
Amazing giveaway! I love her pillows and have her as a favorite on etsy. I also follow you through GFC! :) Her pillows look amazing in your home. I never thought about reinforcing the zipper. I will do that in the future! :)ReplyDelete
I love her etsy site and ALWAYS need ( want) new pillows. Im constantly in search of the perfect pillow groupings.ReplyDelete
xo Nancy
I have her etsy shop as a favorite of mine. I am building a new house and I would love to win!ReplyDelete
Great giveaway:)
Love your beautiful and fresh living room! I have pinned two of her pillows here: http://pinterest.com/mixandchic/pillows/ and I am also a follower of yours via GFC! Great giveaway!ReplyDelete
Happy Thanksgiving!
- NIcole YoungNovember 20, 2012 at 4:50 PM
So beautiful! I think the Sea Urchin pillow would look lovely in the beach cottage I am renovating. email@example.com
Seeing your choices of pillows has always been one of my favorite decorating things. I think I commented on your other post about the pink and orange pillows. They might have even been my inspiration for my party this Saturday! Coinkydink? I think not. :). Have a very happy Thanksgiving, Mary Ann.ReplyDelete
LOVE her pillows and stalk her on Etsy! http://pinterest.com/shellr/bedroom/ReplyDelete
I love so many of her pillows but I think nympheus is my favorite.ReplyDelete
I love all of her pillows...and they look so beautiful in your home. I pinned a few and also the photo of "how to stuff a pillow" under useful...who knew? I hope I win!!ReplyDelete
oh i just love her pillows -- i got my david hicks ones from her a while ago. i would LOVE to win a gift cert there ;)ReplyDelete
ps just liked you on FB and already follow Liana on Etsy :)ReplyDelete
Fabulous pillows. I just pinned one of my favorites - the Fuji modern one. I "liked" Liana on Facebook and follow by email. Crossing my fingers - these pillows are wonderful.ReplyDelete
such a beautiful etsy shop! i fell in love with so many pillows i'm not sure what i would pick if i won! pin&follow both!ReplyDelete
Such good information on how to stuff and care for pillows! So many beautiful pillows to choose from. I think that I would LOVE the Schumacher Avebury Floral Vine pillow for my guest bedroom! I also follow you on FB and email!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM
I loved the post on pillows and I am addicted too! I liked the lesson on how to stuff and care for pillows and will be trying it soon. My favorites in the shop are the wavy stitch lumbar in navy and the 20 inch velvet- a great addition for the season! Thanks for the giveaway. SueReplyDelete
These posts about pillows are great. I actually just pinned both posts on pinterest - these will became great know tos when I get around to cleaning my inserts and buying new covers! My favorite WoodyLiana pillow is the BETWIXT pillow cover in Chartreuse - love this fabric!ReplyDelete
- Sallie GNovember 21, 2012 at 8:42 PM
I have been stalking the Quadrille zig-zag pillow but can't decide between that and the pinstripe belgian linen velvet one, but now that I saw your Vervain Ishtar pillows on furniture, they've made my top 3! I've yet to convince my husband we need more furniture so I can buy all of them :)I also liked the tips on caring for/cleaning pillows. Her work is impeccable and I would love to have one of her pillows - fingers crossed!ReplyDelete
Pinned the Darya Ikat in Jewel 20" pillow on my Details, Details board. Would love it in my family room. Thanks for the the giveaway this Thanksgiving week. And thanks for the cleaning tips. firstname.lastname@example.com
- AnonymousNovember 22, 2012 at 5:23 AM
I am a follower of your blog. I would love to be a winner of one of these beautiful pillows.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 22, 2012 at 5:32 AM
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I love all of the beautiful pillows and could use one in my bedroom.
I have pinned the Windsor Smith RIAD pillow cover in Indigo. Such beautiful quality pillows. Thanks for sharing such a generous giveaway.ReplyDelete
I am a follower of your blog! I'm in love with these pillows and your blog!ReplyDelete
WoodyLiana is one of my favorite stores on etsy - Happy to have found your blog!ReplyDelete
Love these pillows!!! I'm followin on Facebook :)ReplyDelete
Love Liana's pillows. I have purchased a couple previously, and they are fabulous! I pinned two different ones- so hard to choose.ReplyDelete
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- AnonymousNovember 23, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Pillows are gorgeous! Thank you for the give away!ReplyDelete
The pillows are beautiful and wonderful to receive the tips for stuffing and refreshing the inserts! I pinned a couple of my favorites (so hard to choose!). email@example.com Thanks for the giveaway!!ReplyDelete
She really has beautiful pillows. My fave are the blk velvet with pinstripe.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 24, 2012 at 5:06 PM
I've ordered pillows from Liana before, so I can attest that they are beautiful and well made. I love the fuji modern and black pin stripe pillows! email@example.com
I just recently discovered her shop on etsy! I just love all of her pillows. She has such a good eye for fabric/pillows!ReplyDelete
I have 3 of her pillows in my collection. She is the best of the best. I would love to add another, I know just where I'd put it! email@example.com *les touches in ivory/blackReplyDelete
Well now I know I have been doing my pillows wrong. Your way sounds much better than mine. Always love tips! -TonyaReplyDelete
Hi! The giveaway has ended now. Thanks for your interest!ReplyDelete
Mary AnnReplyDelete
Thanks for the introduction to her wonderful pillows. I know the giveaway is over but I am so happy to have found her!


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I vote for the 4 layer approach: Cooper, Platoon Leader, Squad Leader, Cannon Fodder.
I'll mostly be playing Cannon Fodder but I have invested in a spawn beacon if I'm designated squad leader for some absurd reason.
I'm an advocate for the Platoon Leader to only give general squad instructions: go take that and leave the rest to the squad.
I'm not so sure that being proactive on defense is that fun an idea though as there is a fair chance of a squad waiting in vain for a while at a desolate outpost in the middle of nowhere.
My main issue with ranks being indicative of willingness to do x or y is that that willingness is often contextual. In that sometimes I'm on for a fair few hours and will happily take SL or PL, sometimes I just pop in for half an hour and wouldn't want to be given PL.
Usually a vacating PL / SL will simply ask for a volunteer. I think that's a decent enough way to do it for now. If anything, what we need is some kind of encouragement for more people step up as PL / SL; it's really not that daunting."KING GEORGE IS A FROG
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Although i've been terrible at the game, and communicating on mumble i've experienced nothing but awesome. Keep it up RPS dudes. Purple giraffes for all.
Well, the SL or PL that can stay will then lead. You arent forced to lead. The thing with ranks is to make things more structured and less ad hoc. Volounteers for leading is all well, but if we has a few people to rely on when theyre on things would be more smooth in this regard, while also knowing that the person leading knows what theyre doing and is certed.
Oh and I like the independent SL thing as well. PL says do this and squad decides how based on whats needed. Would be nice with air support squads etc as well, and using channels on mumble to make it less confusing. Right now we have plenty of platoon play, but squads don't really mean much.
Ive found it very confusing in the past to coordinate on a squad level. Usually, the entire platoon ie. everyone online in the outfit currently, is in the same mumble channel, and there is no squad internal comms or tactics. its mostly just platoonlevel.
For lower population thats great, but for coordinated attacks on different locations, bleh.
(Of course, I did have a lot of fun so far, but I just see where it can be optimised)- Tom De Roeck.
verse publications & The Shopkeeper, an interactive short.
"Quantacat's name is still recognised even if he watches on with detached eyes like Peter Molyneux over a cube in 3D space, staring at it with tears in his eyes, softly whispering... Someday they'll get it." - The Conclave
Also, don't take this the wrong way, uh, everyone, but in the mumble chat, aside from a few people with (to me) distinctive accents, everyone pretty much sounds the same, and by the time I've looked away from the gunfight to see who's talking, they've either stopped, or I'll just forget in five seconds anyway because my short term memory is terrible and aside from a few people with (to me) distinctive accents, everyone pretty much sounds the same.
So, I suggest that from now on we all adopt a uniquely outrageous false accent.
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It would probably make the most sense to do opt-in organisation.
In this case the people who want more organised play could sign-up somewhere say and agree pre-session what they are doing. We could split squad comms off in mumble. The problem is the need to rearrange squads as people join and leave make this not a practical choice for every squad in the platoon.
These organised squads could then go to the extra effort to ensure that they are capable of communicating with the rest of the platoon via shout to parent. Letting the platoon leader(s) know that they have organised air support available for example would add to the game for the less organised people while allowing the organised squads to work with the RPS horde.
Regarding voices etc, most people never say their name when they ask for something. "Come to my tank" is not exactly helpful when you all brits sound fairly similar to me.. Well, not really, but it's hard making out individuals when 30 people are on
Also, ranks etc would be nice to have. Currently when you get PL you're mainly the waypoint dude and not so much the dude in charge. People generally do what they want and organization is hard because of this, but I'm fairly sure most people prefer to roll this way as well. Maybe organized outings is the only way to sort this out, so you can have orders and ranks during that.
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Maybe I'm being a bit thick, but why don't people just use the mumble overlay? It's very customisable and works great.
Also, Im QuantaCat! Im the one with the decidedly Austrian accent, Qaz is the one with the funky "could be british but isnt" accent, and we have several dutch guys. I think Lysander has a very unique voice too
(Also, Ive played with several people on mumble before, so I assume its just a thing of getting used to. JG is always recognisable, as well as Sceptrum. Now all thats missing is Kads and we have a crack team.)
Also also, I award Jim "Andov" Rossignol with the prize for broody mumbling but still remaining clear.
Also also also, we should have a group of people that can actually call the shots. Cooper, for sure, but Andov, qaz, Onesomething(I forgot, crap!), etc. Not just "who had enough certs for squad beacon". I wouldnt mind being a squad leader of a small squad, but anything more than that, no go.
Last edited by QuantaCat; 02-12-2012 at 09:43 AM.- Tom De Roeck.
verse publications & The Shopkeeper, an interactive short.
"Quantacat's name is still recognised even if he watches on with detached eyes like Peter Molyneux over a cube in 3D space, staring at it with tears in his eyes, softly whispering... Someday they'll get it." - The Conclave
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I'd be keen for some more organised outings.
Mass carnage laser charges are great fun, but coordinated light assault flanking, simultaneous drop pod deploys, stuff like that would be awesome.
I find I get better at the game quicker in sessions where PL / SL are taking control, as well. At the moment I still find the game a bit too fast paced to chat much meaningful on mumble, and keeping track of the bigger picture is hard due to not yet knowing the maps that well (the one time I was handed PL we were on Esamir, I'd not played on that continent at all before so could do little other than update waypoints based on what people wanted to do). Strategic / tactical direction from players who know the game well has helped me get a lot more from it, and it feeds back straight away into solo and loose group play as well.
If people want, I can always talk in my Red Alert 1 Russian voice, even though I'm Norwegian :P
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OK, noob here, just got invited to the outfit (VS/Miller, MrEclectic). It was a brief session, but it was glorious! Chaotic, hectic. Great fun all around.
Highlight of the session was my first flight aboard of a Galaxy: Warped to Indar, got aboard, en route to Hvar, and we crashed before I knew what happened. Somehow that was genuinely fun. Purple giraffe to the pilot (sorry, amidst the confusion I didnt get the handle - no, I'm not being sarcastic).
I was generally a bit useless, running around as a medic, healing and reviving, but I was always missing my squad (Delta), and kept following Alpha to Charlie instead. I hope to be of more use in the future. Cheers!
I think that as Cooper mentioned earlier sometimes the same people don't want to SL or PL every time, so it's nice to be able to ask for volunteers when you have to leave or just aren't in the mood.
I know that on some days I just want to sit back and let someone else make the decisions while I shoot stuff but on others a bit of strategy can be just the ticket.
With regards to organisation; from my days in PR there seemed to be a way of splitting the channels down to squad level. So for example, Squad 1 could only hear the other members of Squad 1, whereas their squad leader could communicate with the other squad leaders at the touch of a separate button.
As PS2 is a little more casual, splitting mumble channels into squads and then simply having a transmit to all Squads/platoons button that everyone could use would be quite a useful tool. Basically just like the in game chat except more reliable and clearer.
I don't know how easy that would be to set up but it's just a thought.
Enjoyed playing yesterday, quite like playing as a medic, will have to do so more often!Jaketucker.com
I've never felt the need for strong squad and platoon organisation, but I have occasionally felt the lack of clear leadership (and been hypocritically annoyed by it despite having no intention of stepping up myself. Shame on me). I like to have someone with a plan in charge, even if it's just the occasional "right, we're going here now" and a platoon waypoint, and the odd "we're getting slaughtered for no reason, regroup at the warp gate".
The one thing I'd say to people would be check the size of the platoon (either in the social window or the mumble overlay if you're using that), and try to tailor your chat behavious accordingly - with a single squad on, it's a good time to tell your awesome story about how you just shot down a galaxy and then couldn't shake off a mosquito but then he crashed into you and you both exploded but you got the kill; with four squads on, it's probably best to keep quiet and use mumble for organisation and tactical info.
On the other hand, if you're crushing the enemy and driving them before you and hearing the lamentation of their women, and you're all convoying towards the next destination and there isn't really any tactical info to give, you can probably indulge in taking the piss out of Grible a bit, for team building purposes. Just pick your times to chat and your times to keep the frequency clear.
Very much agreed, Weasel. There was a lot of unnecessary chatter when we were 35 people yesterday. Hopefully we can sort that out with channels soon though. I was thinking of unleashing the RPS hordes on my poor Amazon EC2 server, but I have no idea how much data we'd use, and I can't afford expensive server costs. If so I could fix channels in a day though.
Regarding leadership, I got a bit shouty for the first time yesterday as I was quite annoyed at the fact that no one was listening and doing what was needed. This is extremely common at facilities, as everyone just runs around and muck about. You get nothing done that way. See how we helped Eisa immensly yesterday with our galdrop? That was because everyone listened to Lysander because he was shouty (and has a lovely and quite special voice). That's extremely crucial in this game, I think, at least if you want to accomplish something. You can be a serious force to be reckoned with if you do what we did yesterday, when we moved out together and organized. I LOVED that, defo my best time in PS2 so far. We made a huge difference as well, with that many magriders.
A person that takes up leadership of the platoon should speak up and be vocal, and not be afraid to decide things. Ranks, again, could help with this, as you gain something to prove your worth. It might sound dumb, but I think it matters much if you know that this dude is a leader and is designated as such.
Generally when I lead I feel like there's a few people that want to be led and enjoy it, some people that would like to lead but never speak up, and then there's quite a few who just wants to play and don't really listen, or see the value in orders and organizaton. I think we should further promote people following orders and make sure we're working together, and that the leader is a person that gets listened to. It doesn't have to be all fascism and boredom because of that - the chaos is still there, but you can make something happen. That's what takes PS2 to the next level for me.
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Just putting it out there, but perhaps we could have a social platoon and a following-orders-and-no-mucking-about platoon?
Maybe "The Flying Giraffes" could be about finding fights, no chat policy, with the leader just deciding where to go next and providing the barest level of overall direction, while the "Insert another name" platoon could have a designated leader with subordinate squad leaders and a clean mumble.
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How to Write a Query Letter
In order to have your novel published you will probably need to write a query letter. Here's how.
Once you have followed the gentle suggestions in the How to Write a Novel post and/or my book How to Write a Novel: 47 Rules for Writing a Stupendously Awesome Novel You Will Love Forever and you done gone and written yourself a novel, (or if you've written a nonfiction book proposal), it is then time to see what the world thinks of it. The first step in this process if you are seeking traditional publication is to find an agent.
Please check out this post about how to find a literary agent, since a query letter is not the only way of going about it. But chances are you will at some point have to sit down and write one of these beastly missives.
Here's how you do it:
What to Know Before You Start
A query letter is part business letter, part creative writing exercise, part introduction, part death defying leap through a flaming hoop. (Don't worry, you won't catch fire and die during the query process though it may feel precisely like that at times). In essence: it is a letter describing your project.
The first thing to know about writing query letters is that there are as many opinions out on the Internet about query letters as there are, well, opinions on the Internet. You will find lots of dos and don'ts and peeves and strategies and formulas. The important thing to remember about this is that everyone is wrong except for me. (Just kidding. The important thing to remember is that you will need to choose the ideas that work best for you).
As the immortal Douglas Adams said, don't panic! Write the best letter you can, be yourself, don't overthink it too much, don't sweat it if you realize the second after you sent it that you made a typo or accidentally called an agent Vicky when their name is Nathan. If an agent is going to get mad or reject you over something trivial like that they're probably not the type of person you'd want to work with anyway.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
For Further Reading:
Get the Big Stuff Right
Can You Query If You Are An Unpublished Novelist and Your Novel Isn't Finished?
The Common Sense and Decency Rule
Why It's So Important to Learn to Summarize Your Work
Research and Personalization
The second thing to do before you write the query is to research. This is because you need to do your darndest to:
- Figure out which agents would be the right fit for your work — Three basic things to figure out: a) does the agent represent your genre, b) do they represent something too similar to your project, c) do they seem like they would be a good fit for you. The answers should be a) yes, b) no, c) yes.
- Figure out the agent's submission procedure — Submission guidelines are like snowflakes: no two are alike. Also they melt. (Not really.) You will need to Google the agent and/or the agency in order to figure out where to send the query (it may be through the mail or via e-mail or via an online form or via a query service) and what the agent wants included with the query. Follow these guidelines!
- Include a personalized tidbit about the agent in the query to show you did your research — Personalize the query! Show the agent that you put in the time and have targeted them in your search. Mention an interview or a book they've represented or that they seem inordinately attached to the color orange.
- Make sure they're reputable. — There are tons of scam artists out there, so do your research. No agent should charge you a fee upfront. Know your rights as an author.
How do you research all of this? Firstly via The Google, but there are also online resources such as AgentQuery, Query Tracker, the AAR database, the Absolute Write message boards, Publishers Marketplace, and many other links on the left side of this page, which I recommend perusing.
And please please please PLEASE familiarize yourself with Writer Beware and Preditors and Editors, which help authors sort out the legitimate agents from the scammers. Check out Absolute Write if you're unsure about someone.
If you can't find additional info about an agent but know they are legit, do the best you can personalizing, and send the thing.
For Further Reading:
Personalizing vs. Kissing Up
Hoops vs. Hints
Don't Get Caught Up In The Rush
Make an Agent's Life Easier
Don't Fake a Personalized Query
The Batch Querying Theory
Taking a Chance on a Young Agent
When In Doubt, Query Me
Writing the Darn Thing
Ah, the fun part. Only not really.
Once you have determined who you are querying, then it is time to write it. As I mentioned, there are tons and tons of ways of going about this, but you are in luck as I have a handy dandy mad lib to get you started. Just plug in the details of your novel into this formula and it will give you a basic query to start with. From there expand on it, personalize, and make it your own.
You are trying to accomplish two important tasks with the query: 1) You are trying to make the plot/subject of your book sound awesome 2) You are trying to show the agent that you write well Especially for fiction I highly recommend that you try as much as possible to write the query so that it embodies the spirit of your project. If your book is funny, write a funny a query. If your book is written with beautiful lyrical prose, write your query accordingly. An agent is looking at your query to determine whether they want to read more and whether they think you can write professionally.
As you're doing this, be as specific as specific as possible about the plot, rather than descending into generalities.
For nonfiction, it's very important to give a sense of your level of expertise, your platform, and how much publicity you could bring to bear in the promotion of your work.
I highly recommend having queries out with around seven agents at a time, which doesn't leave you hanging endlessly with one agent, but also gives you some time to adjust course if you feel your query isn't getting the attention you would have expected.
Other things I would suggest:
- Don't go crazy with the formatting.
- Keep your query between 250–350 words
- Keep the focus on the project you are querying about, even if you're a previously published author — Be as specific as possible about plot details without overwhelming the agent with unnecessary detail (tricky balance, I know)
- Always include a sample of your work (5 pages is a good rule of thumb), even if the agent doesn't ask for it. No one is going to reject you for this, so this is the one place where I think it's permissible to break with submission guidelines. If you are e-mailing your query, be sure and paste this in the body of an e-mail. No attachments.
For Further Reading:
Query Letter Mad Lib
Examples of Good Queries
The One Sentence, One Paragraph, and Two Paragraph Pitch
How to Format a Query Letter
Query Letter Subject Lines
The Key to Good Queries: Summarizing Through Specificity
Comparing Your Book to Other Books in the Query
Themes Schmemes
The Importance of the Pitch
Things Agents Don't Need to Know
How and Whether to Mention Blurbs and Referrals
How and Whether to Mention Your Publishing Credits
How to Mention a Series in a Query
What Happens Next
After you've sent that bad boy off, you sit back and wait for the agent to consider it. And wait. And wait some more. Here's what's happening on an agent's end: First they print out all the queries and stack them up. Then they spread them around the room until they're a few inches deep. Next they lie down, wave their arms and legs, and make query angels.
Actually it works kind of like this.
What you want is a request for a partial or a full manuscript, in which case your query has done its job and you have moved on to the next step. If you've sent out a dozen or so queries and haven't gotten so much as a nibble, there might be something wrong with your query and you may wish to tweak it a little and give it a second look.
Bear in mind that many/most agents have a no-response-means-no policy, so if you do not hear back after a couple of months you have your answer. It is not customary to follow-up if you haven't heard back on a query. I personally try to respond to all e-mailed queries within 24–48 hours unless I'm out of the office, so if you haven't heard from me in a couple of weeks please contact me again, mention that you didn't hear from me, and include your original query.
Also please remember that agents are positively besieged with queries — you have one query you are worrying about, agents have 15,000 or more to answer in a year. Keep your cool, stay calm, and be professional throughout the process.
For Further Reading:
The Query Deluge
How to Respond to a Request for a Partial
The Five Stages of Query Grief
All About Re-querying
Why Agents Aren't More Specific About What We're Looking For
Why I Can't Answer Follow-up Question After Queries or Provide Referrals
How to Understand a Rejection Letter
It's Not You, It's the Odds
Don't Forget That Every Writer Gets Rejected At Some Point
And that's it! Query letter writing doesn't have to be a horribly frightening experience. Just remember to be professional, do your research, and keep writing in the meantime. Don't forget the 10 Commandments of the Happy Writer.
If you need feedback on your query or if you have further questions, there is a Query Feedback section in my discussion forums, I am always happy to answer your questions in the Ask Nathan thread or reach out to me for a consultation.
Also, there are many great resources regarding query letters out on the Internet. Writer Beware had a great post on it, and I highly recommend Janet Reid's indispensable query critique blog Query Shark.
Happy Querying!
I'm available for manuscript edits, query critiques, and consultations! And if you like this post, check out my guide to writing a novel.
Originally published at blog.nathanbransford.com on April 13, 2017.


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Doom 3 Graphics Deathmatchby Derek Wilson on 8/3/2004 8:05 AM EST
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redscull - Friday, September 03, 2004 - linkThought I'd share my own benchmarks, especially so people can see the impact the CPU makes. I ran once to let the demo cache, then took the average of two following times.
Shuttle SN85G4V2, Athlon 64 3000+, 1GB PC3200, XFX 6800 GT 256MB, Raptor drive
1600x1200, no AA, High Quality: 58.2
1024x768, 4xAA, High Quality: 63.0
I'm 0.7 and 2.2 fps slower in those tests, and the only real difference between my system and the review system is about a $550 CPU upgrade =) Reply
uethello - Friday, August 06, 2004 - linkI appreciate all the hard work that went into this review but I wish you had used a more realistic / mainstream CPU i.e.; AMD 2500+ or a p4. Just my .02 All in all, though, a fantastic article. Reply
Phiro - Friday, August 06, 2004 - linkQuestion, how much memory does each card have? Does it make a big diff with Doom3 if you have 128mb vs. 256mb? I'm asking becuase there is a huge price difference between a 6800 128mb and a 6800 256mb. Reply
Locutus4657 - Thursday, August 05, 2004 - linkI just thought I would post that I am running an AMD64 3000+ with 1GB Ram on a Chaintech MB with an ATI Radeon 9600XT. Running 1024.768 medium quality is no problem! Reply
DerekWilson - Thursday, August 05, 2004 - linkKrazyDawg ...
You're right ... copied down wrong again.
Last time I copy data while I'm trying not to fall asleep, I promise. Reply
KrazyDawg - Thursday, August 05, 2004 - linkCan the results for the High Quality Med test be fixed? It shows the Radeon 9800 Pro with a higher frame rate than the 9800 XT. Also, the 9800XT has the same frame rate as a 9700Pro. Reply
KrazyDawg - Thursday, August 05, 2004 - linkWill there be a noticeable difference in frame rate between a 9800 Pro 256MB and a 9800 Pro 128MB? Reply
Jeff7181 - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkGREAT article guys. After playing it for a couple days, I agree 100% with what was said. Awesome game, brilliant developing by Carmack and his team. There's not a game I'd rather be playing right now... some people aren't impressed by it... because they filled their head with hype about how it will be revolutionary and a breakthrough in gaming. While it's not quite THAT amazing, it is in my opinion, easily the best looking game you can buy today... including Far Cry. Reply
mattmm - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkMaybe I'm missing something, or I'm just uneducated with PCI-Express. But shouldn't PCI-E be involved in testing? If thats the way the graphics slot standard is headed, why havent they produced high perofmrance cards like the 6800 for that platform? And what is everyones feeligns about being left int he dust with your $500 AGP card in a couple months "IF" PCI-E is debuted with something better? Like a majority I'm faced with having to buy a whole new system for this game, but I dont want to jsut put something together to play this game NOW, I want it for games LATER as well. Just dont want to make the mistake of sinking the dough into a technology where in a few months the possibility of something far greater is bound. (I know its the hate-love relationship with advancing technology) Reply
PrinceGaz - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkI made a slight mistake earlier when I said the console command to show the framerate while playing is "con_showfps 1", it is actually "com_showfps 1". Sorry.
#57- my CPU is actually a slightly overclocked XP 1700+ which I've ran at 1800+ speeds ever since I built this box. I did try overclocking my Ti4200 to Ti4400 speeds (275/550), which is well within its maximum possible overclock without any visible corruption (290/580).
As you'd expect, a faster graphics card did next to nothing for my framerate at 640x480 as that was pretty much CPU limited. The 10% gfx overclock only raised the framerate of the 640x480 low quality mode by 1%, from 31.4 fps to 31.7fps. I doubt even a 6800 Ultra could manage more than 33fps with my CPU, mobo, and memory. So an XP 1800+ on a KT266A mobo has a roughly 33fps ceiling regardless of graphics card or mode.
At 1024x768 medium quality, the 21.2fps at 250/500 was raised by a healthy 8% to 22.9fps with the 250/550 overclock of 10%, so a faster graphics card would in my system would definitely push that a lot higher, probably close to 33fps. Increasing core speed alone had a greater impact than memory alone, at 275/500 I measured 22.2fps, while at 250/550 I got 21.8fps. If you've got any GeForce4 Ti series card (even an overclocked Ti4600), regardless of your CPU I'd recommend running at 800x600 in Medium quality mode, or possibly High quality mode with Aniso disabled though you're unlikely to see much difference and theres always the risk of texture swapping at some point. Reply
DerekWilson - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkEssobie:
Between the High Quality at 1024x768 graph and the High Quality at 800x600 graph (in the Low End performance analysis), you can see that the 5700U and 9600XT scale a little more than 10fps when dropping res. This number is bigger for higher performance cards. We should have included a couple of last years high end cards in that graph. Sorry for the omission. Reply
Essobie - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkI sure would have liked a comparison for ALL the mentioned cards in a few of the different settings side by side. The idea that you can choose what card is right for you can't both be expressed by visual quality and frames per second in three seperate teers.
What I'd like is to see what the best card for the buck is going to be that will run the game around 60fps in 800x600 with all graphical nicities on. As it is now, I have to just make a judgement call on what the Mid-Range results show, even though the difference in performance between 800x and 1024x are likely to differ in the 10-20 fps level, if I am assuming correctly.
I love the article, but it would be nice to simply find 'how' I want to play the game, and then see what performs best at those settings. Maybe it's just that none of their settings match what I think is really important. :( Reply
kherman - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkATI 9600 SE, using a 2800+ athlon. Not sure of memmory, etc. Have 512 meg though. Latest non-beta ATI drivers.
640x480 med - 26.8 fps
I can't wait to post my 6800 numbers ;) Reply
Sonic587 - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkThank you, PrinceGaz. Very interesting results. Have you tried OCing any of your hardware? Decent FPS considering you have PC2100 and a 1800+. All this with a 4200 at stock! Reply
PrinceGaz - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkI should add that those framerates were measured by doing four runs at each resolution and quality setting, discarding the first run, then taking an average of the other three (they were very consistent and only varied by one tenth of an fps between the second, third and fourth runs). High quality really was marginally faster than Medium, when Aniso was off. Reply
PrinceGaz - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkTo run the timedemo, at the console type "timedemo demo1.demo". If you want to see the fps in the top-right corner while playing, type "con_showfps 1".
I tested my system a couple of days ago using the timedemo (XP 1800+, 768MB PC2100, 128MB Ti4200 @ 250/500 Det 56.72). All Advanced settings were at the defaults (all enabled except for VSync):
640x480 low - 31.4 fps
640x480 med - 31.3 fps
680x480 high - 23.4 fps, or 31.4 fps if Aniso forced Off in the driver (the game requests 8x Aniso on High setting)
800x600 low - 28.2 fps
800x600 med - 27.9 fps
800x600 high - 28.0 fps with Aniso forced Off
1024x768 low - 21.6 fps
1024x768 med - 21.2 fps
1024x768 high - 21.2 fps with Aniso forced Off
There is no real difference in framerate on a 128MB Ti4200 between Low, Medium, or High quality, except for the 8x Aniso used in High quality mode which cripples older generation cards. Force Aniso off and you can use High quality with no drop in framerate. The optimum balance of resolution and framerate for my system while playing was 800x600 which played surprisingly well and looked a lot better than I expected. Reply
cosmotic - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkActually, GF4MX has no shader support, so its not at all like the GF3. Last card without shader support was GF2s. I was right, according to nVidias website, the only thing it has over the GF2MX is antialiasing... And maybe their light speed memory architecture, video processing engine (DVD) and nView, although I dont know it the GF2MX had that or not. Reply
Detritis - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkFrom various stories that I have read regarding framerates in Doom 3, I was under the impression that it was going to be capped at 60 fps. However there is a couple of time that some cards break 70 and even 100! Reply
Sonic587 - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkHow did the GF Ti4400 do @800X600 medium quality? Not to be nitpicky, but it's well known that AF will kill any GF4 series card. Reply
Crassus - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - linkThx for including the GF4. I don't really know why the 4400 though, as the 4200 was sold in way higher quantities. Good to see though that it can run DIII decently. Reply
Xtian - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkI think it is about time to benchmark using common resolution settings. Most people with LCD screens want to run their games at the native
1280x1024 resolution of their LCDs.
So, will my 128MB radeon 9700 (non pro) be able to run the game at 1280x1024 ? Anyone who knows ?
gmenfan - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkHow do you run the timedemo included with the game? Also, does anybody know the command to raise the refresh rate. Reply
Pollock - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkI'm getting very depressed...I have a GeForce2 MX that I got for free from my friend... Reply
Drayvn - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkWould you be able to use the 4.9 beta catalyst drivers, supposedly they are for the doom3 performance issues? Reply
RuStYwAvE - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkWhy do you guys want to see the benchmarks on a gf4 4200 and ati 8500.
4200 is slightly underclock 4400 so subtract a few framerates and the ati 8500 should perform better then a ati 9200 since it has a higher core and memory speed.
Also i think the old geforce3 and geforce3 ti 500 is much better then a geforce fx 5200 and is equilivalent to a 5200 ultra and 5600 just under a geforce4 4200. Reply
Bonesdad - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkAll this and you didn't test the much loved GF4 4200??? I believe this card to be much more popular than the 4400 and I also believe many more of us currently own one... Reply
implicit1 - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkI think something is wrong in the High Quality Med Res benchmark as well. The 9800xt is being beaten by the 9800pro, maybe the numbers are switched around? Reply
cliffa3 - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkin response to the laptop question, if it burned out a vid card, don't play with it sitting on your lap...geez.
Seriously tho, the thinkpads are an awesome line...the only way to go imo. You might want to wait until the mobility 9800s come out if you want a real desktop replacement for gaming...don't know if they'll show up in the thinkpad line anytime soon (or at all). I know there was a news clip a while back on anandtech about it, you might want to dig and find that. Reply
DerekWilson - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkVortigernRed -- you were exactly right -- copied the wrong numbers over in my sleep haze.
Its fixed now. Reply
Lucid484 - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkWhat about my GeForce 2 Ti!!!!! Which is OC to 300CPU/505RAM ...eh id prolly only get 5 fps anyway! Reply
edge929 - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkI think I'll wait about a YEAR for prices to come down to reasonable levels, then I'll get a 6800 Ultra and play it the way it's suppose to be played. Reply
VortigernRed - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkDerek,
There is def something wrong with your figures here.
You have a Geforce 6800 ontperforming a X800XTPE by about 70% on the top graph "high quality med res" also theX800 Pro scores are identical to the R9800 Pro. Maybe you have left a higher quality setting on with the X800s (AA or something)
Gibhunter: Geforce4 MX is nothing like a GF3 TI 200. GF4 MX offers a similar featureset as the GF2 and pretty much the GF256 before it, however it has a better memory controller and so offers performance similar to the higher end Geforce2s ie Pro and Ultra. GF3 offers PS and VS.
Reflex: JC always said that Doom3 targeted the Gefore256s featureset. However that does not mean the Geforce256s performance of course. Reply
Koing - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkThanks for report Derek.
I probaly own't be playing it for ages as I'm notmuch of a pc gamer but that is that.
Koing Reply
Reflex - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - link#36: Huh? GF3 was always the minimum spec for it... Reply
unclebud - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - link"John Carmack has spoken of possible issues when overclocking a graphics card with Doom 3,"
sounds like Mr C is trying to excuse his code bloat (to me).
what happened to "voodoo 3 2000 will be able to run doom 3 fine"? Reply
araczynski - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkreminds me a lot of Deus Ex 2, cept more atmospheric and more responsive. Reply
araczynski - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkon my system email@example.com/1GB/5900(128) the game plays very nicely with everything maxed (AA off) at 1024x768. the game is very good, especially in terms of atmosphere and graphics, the sound isn't as good as i think it could've been, but still very nice. also some issue with it not seeing 7.1 setups as surround, have to downgrade in windows to 5.1.
worth teh wait i think, at least singleplayer is, don't really care about the multiplayer from this type of genre so won't try it. Reply
gibhunter - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - link#27, GF4MX is more like GF3 Ti 200. GF2MX was more on par with the original Geforce video card.
I am interested to see if the Radeon 9200 loses any frames per second on a slower CPU. My guess is that it doesn't take a very powerful cpu to max it out hence it should hover right around 20fps on even a P4 2GHz. Reply
maverick81 - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkI have a laptop with a AMD mobile 64 3200 and a ATI mobility 9600 with 64 mb. I have been using it for ganes until my x800 gets here. Only been playing doom 3 for about 4 hours. It seems to run fine, not as good as a desktop but playable. Reply
thebluesgnr - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkDerek,
do you have a FX5200 or 5500 with a 64-bit memory interface to test?
also, I'd like to see the Radeon 9550 results.
Thanks, Reply
WooDaddy - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkHey tfranzese,
Yeah, I'll be fine, but I don't want to run at 640x480. I do have DDR, but only 256. This definately reminds me of the old days when I wanted to play Turok with my Riva128 card on my AMD K75 (or something like that). The minimum spec back then was really minimum spec and it seems the same here. I don't like being on the low-end so I'll probably build up a A64 system with some decent video card.
I just think this is great. D3 will hopefully be the shot in the arm to get everybody back to spending money in the PC market. I just hope Matrox, S3 and others jump back in the frey again. Reply
Boardmonger - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkI am currently looking at buying a IBM Thinkpad T42 with a 64mb 9600m and I want it to play Doom3 and HL2 (Maybe not great, but playable.) I really want to move to a mobile solution to replace my desktop, but I still want to play a game from time to time and I think that if I can find a notebook that can play Doom3 and HL2 it will handle most of the new games for the next year or more. Any chance of benchmarking some notebooks with mid range cards in the next round of tests? Reply
tfranzese - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - link"Actually, your XP1700 is just fine (at the low end) The min spec is a 1.5 MHz Intel or roughly a XP1500+"
Actually, because that 1.5 GHz Intel is a Pentium 4 adn his XP 1700+ is a 1.4 GHz Athlon. In comparison he's about 500 Willamette MHz ahead of the minimum with that chip. So, yeah, he's set as you said depending on Doom 3's memory bandwidth requirement which could play an important role.
However, with a minimum such as a 1.5 GHz Pentium 4 you also have to consider what such ancient machines could have in them, namely the possible crippling SDRAM. Reply
cosmotic - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkit was my understanding that the GF4MX = GF2MX + AA. I'm surprised it would even work. It's funny that Carmack says GF4MX is ok when GF2MX isnt, if you dont have antialiasing on, your not ganing much. Maybe if its on a smaller process or something...
lanz: Since they started menchmarking with ATI Cards... OHHH!!!! (j/k, yeah, sounds fishy) Reply
lanz - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkActually, looking at those benchies, something is defo wrong....
1024, x4 AA, High Quality X800 XTPE gets 51.6fps
1024, NO AA, High Quality X800 XTPE gets 46.5!
Since when as applying x4AA increase your framerate? Reply
kherman - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkWhere are the ati 9600 SE benchmarks!
What can this Piece of XXXX do? I ave one and already decided to upgrade to a Geforce 6800 base model. I figured I'd be doing 640x480 at medium res....
Will someone, ANYONE, do a benchmark for this card. Reply
punko - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkActually, your XP1700 is just fine (at the low end) The min spec is a 1.5 MHz Intel or roughly a XP1500+ Reply
WooDaddy - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkWow... I feel like its the old days when 640x480 was an acceptable resolution to play with my Nvidia Riva128.
I feel invigorated almost. I must upgrade and spend money! My 4200 can't cut it. Neither can my Xp1700.
Carmack, good job! You may have just singlehandedly improved the personal tech sector. I'm buying nvidia stock now! I would suggest you would too.
Goi - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkWow, the low end still seems pretty mainstream to me. I would've liked to see a GF3/GF4MX/R8500/GF FX5200 thrown into the mix. Reply
punko - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkRe:13
Derek, I could sell you a used one . . . Reply
kmmatney - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkThe Sunday BestBuy advetisement has Celeron desktops with integrated graphics advertised, with Doom3 shown in the monitor window. What a crock! Reply
Zoomer - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkYou might try running a 9700pro with 9500pro's gpu clock and 1/2 of its mem clock to try and simulate a 9500pro.
Would be pretty interesting to compare against if you finally manage to get a real 9500pro. :)
Btw, what about more exotic grapgics chipsets? ;) Reply
bastula - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkDo you happen to have a GeForce 4 MX (64 MB) to try? Since they said it should be playable with that card, I was curious to know how that would compare to the cards you have listed (more specifically, the Radeon 9200 and FX 5700).
Good comparison though, appreciate the hard work and loss of sleep. You should get some rest. :) Reply
DerekWilson - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkthe gf4 line is actually a fairly widely adopted platform, and the minimum requirements for Doom3 are gf4 mx or better (iirc) ... the tnt2 wouldn't run doom3.
I thought about trying the intel integrated out, but then decided that I was sane and could not do such a thing. Reply
mena805 - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkThey also forgot the 5900XT for some reason. This is a MUCH better performing card than the crappy 5700 and 5500's. Reply
cosmotic - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkwhy did you pick the 4400 as the low end nvidia? why not run a more mainstreme card like TNT2s or Intel? Or Rage 128? thats what most customers have, right? Maybe some GF2 MX. The funny thing is that new computers at best buy come with this sort of shit up until recently. Although intel seems to be managing this still.
Where did they marketing for the intel graphics come from? Extremely what? shitty? slow? worthless?
Maybe they should have called it intel:
... grpahics. Reply
Genx87 - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkBuy Doom3 and burnout your 400 dollar video card :) Reply
DerekWilson - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkSorry guys, I don't have a 9500 or an 8500 around the lab ... You're right about the 9500 though; the lack of sleep is catching up with me ... goodnight. Reply
punko - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkI was hoping for a commend about my old ATI 8500.
bearxor - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkIf I'm not mistaken, the 9550 is not the same as a 9500 Pro. I think that you're right that it is a underclocked 9600, which would mean only 4 pipes. The 9500 Pro is exactly like the 9700 Pro except with only a 128-bit memory bus.
I have a 9500 Pro, and am extremely intrested in seeing how the 8 pipes of the 9500 Pro match up to the 4 Pipe + Higher clock speed of the 9600 series.
I have no real intrest in Doom 3, so I've been looking for those benchmarks, but every frame rate report I've read so far just skips from the 9200 to the 9600, ignoring the 9500, even though its a very different GPU from the 9600.
In other words, no a 9550 wouldn't help. Reply
DerekWilson - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkwe looked at doing a radeon 9550 ... if you absolute want it (and ask in the next 10 minutes) I may just sit down and run the card. From our understanding, its just and underclocked 9600 pro, which would likely put it at running medium quality at 640x480 to get by. Reply
bearxor - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkVILLAGERS DEMAND RADEON 9500 PRO BENCHMARKS!!!! Reply
DerekWilson - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkWow ... ummm ... I had no idea that this thing would post the article page by page as I entered it into the engine ... Not working on much sleep makes one overlook certain important options in the engine I suppose.
Sorry about that guys. Hopefully I won't be doing any all night benchmark-the-game-the-day-it-comes-out articles for a while and I can leave the posting to our wonderfully talented Managing Editor. Reply
billbillw - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkLooks like my systems will be able to play this at high quality at 1024x768. For me that will be fine. Reply
billbillw - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkReply
cosmotic - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkI dont think so punko. At first it was just and index, then there was a little content. Now its complete. Reply
punko - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkNaw
the problem that this "all night work" left them too dazed to build the web page properly Reply
cosmotic - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkWhats this? realtime posting? Maybe you should make the article invisible until it is complete? Reply
vaeren - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkI suppose we'll never know what the third page of the article had to say. For all we know it could say that a SLI voodoo2 will run it beautifully. Reply
mcveigh - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - linkwhere be de article!!!! har har! Reply
Thatguy97 - Friday, July 17, 2015 - linkCrazy how I can get 60 fps on Intel integrated lol Reply


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High-End Meets Small Form Factor: GeForce Titan in Falcon Northwest's Tikiby Anand Lal Shimpi on 2/19/2013 9:00 AM EST
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gandergray - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkImpressive engineering from Falcon NW. Reply
xenol - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkPart of me thinks manufacturers should start selling those PCI-Express riser cards so people can build thin mini-ITX builds. Reply
NIGHTSCOUT - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkYes, you can buy PCIe risers on ebay. For a few years now. Reply
Death666Angel - Wednesday, February 20, 2013 - linkPretty much this. Although, mainstream case support isn't there yet. There are many more mITX cases that have a small cube like footprint than there are small tower like footprints. And if they go the narrow tower route, often they offer the riser card as part of the case. :) Reply
IanCutress - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkWould be interesting to compare the weight of the Tiki against the consoles. I'm never too keen on putting my CDs, DVDs or games into a sideways mounted drive, so I wonder if the granite base is detachable (or optional) so you can put it on its side. Reply
piroroadkill - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkOne side would block the exhaust for the CPU, the other would block the intake for the GPU, so I don't think that's a good idea.
Maybe if you put it on blocks. But then you've ruined the look of the setup. Reply
IanCutress - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkVery good point. I'm just always wary of scratching disks when putting them in sideways if they don't have a slot loader. Reply
Guspaz - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkIf you're loading a blu-ray disc, you're extremely unlikely to scratch it in that manner, since they're all coated (with stuff like TDK Durabis or the like). Reply
wolrah - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkI'd just wonder really how important loading discs actually is to the modern PC market.
Games? I'm pretty sure the original World of Warcraft was the last one I installed from CD.
OS? Microsoft has an official tool for loading Vista or newer ISOs or CDs to USB drives, and it installs MUCH faster from even a slow USB drive in my experience.
Media? If you insist on sticking with disc-based systems a standalone Blu-ray player is cheaper than a game most days and will play anything that matters. Otherwise digital libraries are the way to go. The discs I own for the most part get opened once, to rip them to my media server, at which point they are shelved forever because why would I ever want to use discs when I can just click my remote? Reply
freedom4556 - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkAll the optical medial hate. So far 2x dvd read speed (22.16 Mbit/s) is still faster than the average broadband speed in the States (15.91 Mbps). Fully half of all the games I have on Steam were bought on Amazon or in the store and then I activated the keys in steam to have backups. It takes forever to install games from scratch. Hell, the initial patching alone can take hours. Personally I scorn digital distribution and love things like redbox and Hastings. What can I say, I'm a sucker for instant gratification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD#Technology Reply
c4fusion - Thursday, February 21, 2013 - linkWell it shouldn't be a problem with this system, it's slot loaded. ;) Reply
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkThe granite base is not detachable. It's quite attached, and it's quite heavy (I'd assume to keep the Tiki upright). Reply
tonyou - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkAccording to another review, the granite base is actually removable:
<a href="http://www.destructoid.com/review-falcon-northwest... Reply
AtaStrumf - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkWow this is an impressive system but at what price?!?! Last November I built a HT gaming system based on i3 3225 (3.3Ghz), 8 GB RAM, 120BG Samsung 840 SSD + 1TB HDD and 7850 2GB OC and slimline Sony Blu-Ray for just €650, taxes and postage included. I can run Battlefiled 3 and anything else I've thrown at it at 1080p resolution and good quality settings without a hitch. The price of this Tiki ($3200) is a total waste of money and sooo over-engineered!! Reply
Tetracycloide - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkYou're making a pretty ludicrous comparison here. Obviously if you can spend less and it still does everything you need it to do then do that but there are things a high-end system will be capable of doing that your system can't. If you want to do one of those things then your system isn't worth it at any price. On top of that you've ignored the entire premise of the article: that for some users the extra cost of having someone build for you is well worth the time savings. In short not everyone's needs are your needs and not everyone's time is worth the same amount. Reply
AtaStrumf - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkBuilding the PC is the easy part, figuring out what bits should go in it is the hard part, but given the price difference it's well worth the investment.
If they could build something closer to my spec in this form factor for a bit more money then I paid, I'd be all over it, but at this price point I'm flabbergasted as to who will want to pay this much for a glorified HTPC. Reply
Taft12 - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linki3+840+HD7850?
Apples and oranges are too similar to be a valid description of the different universes your system and this Tiki occupy. How about a mosquito vs. a T-Rex? Reply
AtaStrumf - Wednesday, February 20, 2013 - linkWell how about asking yourself what this is actually USED for? If you like running benchmarks all day on your HTPC(!) and brag about it on forums then then sure it's no comparison, but Battlefield 3, Far Cry 3 at 1080p resolution (as high as 99.99% of TVs will go at the moment) run smoooooth as silk on my config. Why would I wonna pay a $2.5k premium for something I don't need?!?! Plus it's ugly! They spend all this time and effort in designing a square box. Wow, seriously?!? That granite base is like a fallen headstone. Well at least it's gonna come in handy when they have to bury this thing. I reckon this is gonna tank big time. Reply
Death666Angel - Wednesday, February 20, 2013 - linkYou are going by your own taste and likes and saying this product is bad because it doesn't meet those. All the others are simply stating that it isn't a bad product because you don't like it. You can say you find it a useless and overprice product for your own use cases. That is fine and hardly worth a rebuttal. But you are arguing in absolutes while providing subjective points. Reply
HisDivineOrder - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - link...one damn well hopes the consoles aren't as smooth. ;) Reply
Aikouka - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkI wanted to add one thing to your comparison between the Tiki and the 360 that I think makes it even more interesting: the power supply. It's pretty easy to forget given we don't necessarily consider it, but if they stuffed the power supply into the 360, it would probably come even closer to the size of the Tiki.
As for Steam's Big Picture Mode (BPM), what I would love to see is better thought to the user experience. I use BPM on my Gaming HTPC along with Windows Media Center (for the superior CableCard-based tuner support). Well, the problem is that there isn't an easy way to cycle between the two pieces of software. The biggest problem is that when you exit BPM, it doesn't actually exit Steam, which can be a good thing since logging into Steam takes an absurdly long time. However, that means that you can't use a piece of software to track when Steam closes and have it reopen WMC. There's a piece of software like that which allows for switching to XBMC from within WMC. Reply
lmcd - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkOr Big Picture could just load in video plug-ins, and handle content management. Since Valve is in digital distribution I could see them teaming up with 7digital or someone to get themselves a store. Reply
cjs150 - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkNVidia please produce a watercooled version! That + an i7-3770k in a Silverstone TJ08 with a 200x200mm radiator would produce a quiet, cool and super powerful system.
Very impressed with how little power needed to run that system.
Only problem for me is that the GPU is way too powerful for my needs. I havent yet moved up to 1920x1080 monitor.
Falcon sure builds pretty systems Reply
Gigaplex - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkWhy would NVIDIA build a watercooled version? They pretty much just build a reference platform and sell chips, it's the OEMs that do custom cooling solutions. Reply
alpha754293 - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkWhat kind/type/speed and how much RAM is in the system that you reviewed here? Reply
mavere - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - link"My perspective on what's considered quiet has been sort of warped by the fact that for the past two months I've been using a 27-inch iMac as my primary system."
Uhhh I get the sense that you're trying to qualify your perspective on system noise somehow, but I don't think iMacs, especially the 27" ones, are mass-market enough to be used as a general reference point.
Can you rephrase and/or link to a review? Thanks. Reply
chizow - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - linkEh....don't think so. There's nothing in there that would justify that price point, it makes Alienware's X-51 seem like a steal. And the X-51 looks much nicer to boot.
I do like the innovation with the daughter/riser card accomodating a full-sized GPU. Now that the cat is out of the bag on that one however, I expect more OEMs to follow suit, albeit at a much cheaper price tag. $1k + $300 for a GTX 670 would be a very attractive option, imo, and make up for the lack of grunt on the X-51's GPU options. Reply
JonnyDough - Wednesday, February 20, 2013 - linkI'd rather have the IO Sheild/Backpanel at the top of the case, rather than the bottom for the exact reason you listed Anand. You can see it better when plugging in peripherals.
The PSU and video card connections can be at the bottom. Plus, your mouse cord might be too short to accommodate your desk. You just never know. Reply
brucek2 - Wednesday, February 20, 2013 - linkI'm surprised there were 1080p settings for Far Cry 3 that this system couldn't play. If this system can't do it... what system were they targeting?!? I guess its nice that game looks to future hardware improvements but targeting a level of hardware power that's significantly above this system seems like a very large gap. Reply
marc1000 - Wednesday, March 06, 2013 - linkit's nice to see that BOTH fans are intakes on this small chassis. they are also made by scythe. I wonder where is the PSU air output, but anyway for thermals this is a great design. the only problem would be how to block dust from entering the system. Reply
C.C. - Friday, March 08, 2013 - linkSince both fans (as you pointed out) are intakes, then the system has a positive pressure setup, which will keep nearly every dust particle out.. Reply
FlixZilla - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - linkSystem looks great.. I'm considering going with this one myself as I need a sleek PC-Gaming solution for my hometheater. It's between between this Titan outfitted unit from Falcon and the iBuyPower Revolt and of course the Digital Storm Bolt. The Falcon is most expensive of the three but it has the most visually attractive case design. Downside to the Falcon is that the built-in audio seems poor.. just one line-out! I'm looking to go 5.1 or 7.1 in my theater so that's a disappointment unless I upgrade to an external SoundBlaster or something. The Revolt is most console-like, laying on it's side in traditional console form, but the case is definitely not designed with an upgrading user in mind. Getting into the Revolt to perform an upgrade would be a major pain, not that the system would need any for a good long time. Finally, the CyberStorm Bolt is a real killer with it's Falcon-like size, Revolt like prices, and easily upgradable case design. Then again, you can also throw the AVA Custom Direct into the mix with it's cube-sized mini gaming PCs (also outfitted by Titan)... they're more upgradeable and tweakable, plus due to the shape of the case, you could go Dual 680 or with a 690 if you want to best Titan's performance. I'm still deliberating but each option kicks major ass. Reply
Gastec - Sunday, October 27, 2013 - linkI just calculated the cost of the components of my PC (which started it's life in 2010 ) including the latest upgrades - a SSD and a new graphical card - and I ended up with around $2600 (€1900), without adding the monitor, keyboard, mouse and headset or speakers. So this system with any other card but the GTX Titan would cost less than mine and be faster. The Asus GTX 670 upgrade cost me €380 on Amazon in March 2013 and that was the lowest price I could find. Tell me how that fits in the "How to build a great gaming rig with just a few hundred dollars" myth? Reply


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