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Corsair HS1 Gaming Headsetby Dustin Sklavos on 11/4/2010 12:01 AM EST
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jav6454 - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkany data on how the headphones hold up to highs and lows without distortion? Reply
softdrinkviking - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkI think the first page of the article explained that he (Dustin) doesn't believe these headphones warrant the purchase of equipment capable of delivering the data you are requesting. From what I understand, his reasoning is that they are too cheap to reveal excellence under testing scrutiny.
Whether or not you agree with that reasoning is another matter. Reply
liweifr - Friday, August 05, 2011 - linknever use it .Headphon...
Best Headphones Reply
liweifr - Friday, August 05, 2011 - linkhttp://www.headphonesfashion.com Reply
AnnonymousCoward - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkUnless you have distortion from an integrated sound card, I think anyone would be much better off with $90 Sony MDR-7506 plus a separate mic. Same price, eons better sound quality. Reply
Amart - Saturday, November 06, 2010 - linkGood advice, I forgot about it in my comment - but that's another good option. That Sony model is superior to any BOSE product. Should have good Soundstage too. Reply
Bseic - Monday, November 08, 2010 - linkLet's be honest, anything in that price range from any reputable headphone manufacturer is going to be a far better option... AT, AKG, Beyer, Grado, Senn, we could name them all. At the end of the day almost all 'gaming' headsets should be avoided. Unfortunately it seems the majority of customers are sold by the marketing, and why wouldn't they be, without any prior knowledge '7.1 SURROUND SOUND' headphones seem very appealing. Reply
Theguynextdoor - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkI wonder how this stacks up against Logitech's G35's and G930?
I've had teh G35 for over 2.5 years now and absolutly love it with a few minor quirks.
From the pics I can already see one quirk with the HS1 and that's the controls are still on the cord which is annoying, thus why I leaned towards the G35 when I made my purchase years ago. I like them ON the headset.
But the price seems attractive I'll probably get some for friends and family. Reply
Will Robinson - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkYes,its better to have the controls on the headset where you can see them while you are gaming...oh wait....;)
Actually I agree,in line controls tend to screw up after the cable's been yanked a few times taking the headset on and off.
The Creative Arena headset is a better choice.
http://us.store.creative.com/Sound-Blaster-Arena-S... Reply
Sufo - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkNice to see a headset review. Any chance we could get a few more of these? The Sony DR-GA500 particularly interest me. They also claim to be able to simulate 7.1 and i'd be interested to find out if they fulfil those claims. Reply
mrako - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkHey. Just got the dr-ga500 last week. I can briefly tell you that they are pretty good, light and comfortable for long sessions. The sound is balanced but very good-just don't expect bose level bass or any top audiophile headphones. As for the 7.1 I would tell you that I was not amazed until I played bad company 2-which was my actual reason for making this purchase. Somehow in this game the 7.1 works amazingly. A chopper flies from backwards to your side and then ahead of you and you know where it is even with eyes closed. If you are not in the middle of a firefight with many sounds you can actually hear is someone is coming from the back to stab you which is really cool. If you any further questions just give me a shout. Reply
Amart - Saturday, November 06, 2010 - link7.1 simulation is unnecessary when using decent Headphones that are known to have a good Soundstage - all you need for EAX Surround.
Read how Binaural Sound works - you have two ears, you only need two channels and sufficient isolation.
Gaming Headsets are a huge gimmick/scam designed to fool uneducated consumers. Reply
7Enigma - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkDustin,
As another sufferer of having to wear glasses I feel your pain (literally). I was pleased to discover the Seinhesser HD280 headphone a couple years ago. Very VERY good sound quality and no pain issues with extended use. Occasional reseating of the headphones is required to remove humidity if your ears sweat, but that's pretty common on any completely enclosed design. Got mine for $80 on sale and they seem to go on sale pretty frequently.
Give them a shot sometime, I think you'll be very pleased. Reply
7Enigma - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkPlease note this was a recommendation for headphones only (no mic included), just commenting on your first page of the article where you mentioned the dreaded Bose. :) Reply
JPForums - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkI can get on board with that.
I have a set of HD280 Pros and they are an excellent set in the $100 price range.
(Even better for $80 as above)
I'd recommend these for anyone who uses them for more than just gaming, though they really excel in studio listening due to their relatively flat spectrum characteristics.
For gamers, I include the simple caveat: You need a decent sound card to make these good gaming headphones.
Paired with a good sound card that can accurately simulate positional audio on a two speaker system, these are a beautiful set.
Did I mention they are comfortable.
The build quality is excellent all around.
Though I agree with 7Enigma, they need to be reset periodically if you get sweaty ears.
Find them on sale like 7Enigma and you can add that $20 mic and be in the same price range as these Corsairs.
That said, I'm glad to hear Corsair didn't just put a crap set together and sell it based on brand.
They seemed to be priced a little high compared to the competition, but not to bad for what you get.
Given the reviews, I'd find these most useful for gaming on laptops.
I figure anyone concerned with the sound quality will take the time to tweak them and if they are as comfortable as you say, Corsair will do fine in this market.
There are a lot of people out there that can't tell the difference between a crap set of headphones and a good one, but they all know if it makes their head uncomfortable.
I just hope that Corsair recognizes the flaws in their set and makes a better set to cater to the more refined crowd. Reply
demonbug - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkalso have a set of HD 280 pros. Good sound quality for the price, but I have to disagree about them being very comfortable. I've had them for several years, and I like them, but they are quite tight - I wouldn't even consider wearing them at the same time as my glasses, they are on the border of being uncomfortable even without (usually uncomfortable for the first 5-10 minutes, then I don't notice anymore).
I would like to see a comparison of these "gaming" headsets to what several others have suggested, i.e. decent headphones and a cheap mic. My impression is that gaming headsets have been overpriced and cheaply made, and you can get much better value going the separate component route. It would be nice to have some way of objectively comparing them, though I do understand the hesitancy to invest in testing gear for something that only a small subset of Anandtech readers probably care about.
I wouldn't see it as such a big deal if the gaming headset was ~$50 or less, but at the price they are asking it needs to be pretty damned good; waving away the idea of testing for sound quality because that isn't really what these are about just makes me wonder what that $100 price tag is going to. Reply
Spazweasel - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkI'll second (or third) that motion. Got some Sennheiser HD280Pros myself. I wear glasses, and find these to be very comfortable, along with having excellent passive noise reduction (something around 21-22db, which is getting close to the noise reduction you get from passive shooter's headphones). The sound on the 280s is excellent, and for the money you'd be hard-pressed to better them.
But as others have pointed out, that doesn't address the voice issue.
I also have a Sennheiser PC151 headset. As non-circumaural headsets go, they're comfortable, and the sound (though not up to the standard of the HD280s) is quite good, especially given they're not primarily intended as music playback phones. The mic works almost too well (it's very sensitive, even to the sides and front) and gives good voice quality. Also goes for about 60 bucks, so you might want to pick up a pair of PC151s as a baseline for reasonably-priced gamer headsets.
Nothing against OCZ, but they're moving into a well-established market. I'm going to bet these are designed by some other company and are basically OEMed, with changes in cosmetics. That being said, it's a crowded space, and OCZ's primary sell is going to be on name. They just need to make sure their OEM realizes what "good enough" really means. Reply
7Enigma - Friday, November 05, 2010 - linkYeah, the noise-reduction is almost too good. My wife hates when I wear them and game because she can't get my attention even when in the adjacent room and banging on the wall. I've had both my daughter and wife scare the heck out of me (tap my shoulder or grab my leg) when playing scary FPS such as Metro2033 and F.E.A.R. :)
But I've actually used them on a 6-hour drive in the car with my mp3 player (yes while driving). Looked very silly but being able to almost completely remove the screaming baby was the greatest thing and helped me focus on the road! Reply
mindbomb - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkfor surround sound on these things, don't you have to turn dolby headphone on and have windows and the game set to 5.1?
cause i've heard that dolby headphone works very well on the asus dx, can't see why it wouldn't work well here. Reply
scook9 - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkHow would these compare to the Alienware TactX Headset. I got it for $75 and have been quite happy with it so far (replaced my apple earbuds from ipod.....lol)
Seems like the 2 are directly competing in this market Reply
DigitalFreak - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkFor the 24 hours that I had them, they were.... ok. Then one of the ear pieces fell off and I had to send them off for replacement. HardOCP gave them a glowing review for some reason. Reply
DigitalFreak - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkDustin - You can download the drivers from here - http://www.corsair.com/software/hs1/HS1%20Setup.zi... Unfortunately the only way to find them is search their forums.... :-( Reply
WiredWired - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkDon't need to search, they're on the sidebar (and have been there since October 20th). Still a good question as to why they're not on the website though. Reply
warisz00r - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkAs it has been suggested by a poster here earlier, it makes much more sense to buy a cheap clip-on mic and spend the rest on a headphone that will sound miles better than these 'gaming headsets'. Sure you need to do quite a bit of research but at the end you'll get a much sweeter-sounding setup with an equally functional mic. For example, you can get a Shure SRH440 from your favourite American headphones retailer for about the same price the Corsair headset goes for in Newegg, and spare the chump change on a Zalman clip-on. Reply
Qasar - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkdirectly to the optical or coax output of a sound card...
i have the Azuntech X-Meridian, being able to listen to DD or DTS 5.1 from my comp regardless of the stereo source ( games music ) is awesome.. just wish i could do the same with headphones late at night..
the only way i can do this right now, is via a home theater recevier with pre-outs, Zalmans 5.1 channel headphone amp (ZM-RSA ) and Zalmans 5.1 headphones ...
just need the reciever, and 5.1 headphone amp ..... which i am working on getting ... Reply
yelped - Thursday, November 04, 2010 - linkYou mentioned in the article that you didn't find any comfortable headphones with glasses; You could try Sennheiser HD-555s. Great SQ, great price, excellent build quality, and very comfortable, even with glasses; it just molds into it. Reply
Gonemad - Friday, November 05, 2010 - linkI had them for eons. From the moment I bought them, they didn´t have that vice-grip feel on the head at all. You can barely feel them on the head. They feel bulky and heavy on the hand, but your neck says otherwise, which comes as a lovely surprise. It's not like you would be turning the head a lot while gaming or anything hooked to a PC.
I had yanked its cable more than often, and it didn´t fail so far, and its been... 7 years!?! I mean, they worked straight from the box even in Windows 98 *First Edition.* Just like Thrustmaster, they actually labeled the box with the warning "NO CD" inside. Simple and efficient plug'n'play by design.
If you are good, you can dodge bullets; but if you are REALLY good, you don´t need to. Ouch.
There is a "bass enhance" switch that shows up straight on the Windows tray, inside the volume control, and trust me, the bass gets so much boost it hurts, so I keep them off. It appears these guys make the DSP-400 up until this day, which apparently folds itself for storage or airplane usage, I don't really know, but the audio section is the same, I guess.
Only 3 buttons on the mid-cable rocker: volume and a mute for the mike. You know, the red bright led is there to show you that nobody will hear you, until you hit it again. When not speaking you cant just fold up the mike and enjoy some neighbours-quiet songs. Speaking of cables, this one is really long, suited even for back-plane desktop USB hookup. Just don't expect your original sound card to do anything while it is plugged back there.
They (plantronics) provide headphones of all sorts since 1961 (geez, I had to google that!!), they ought be good. It is not loud or fancy; it gets the job done, and the microphone rarely picks up your breathing; the position of the mike boom appears to have been thought for that purpose since day one, should you ever consider why it doesn´t flex much in any other direction besides the up-stay-away position and usage.
If you are just listening to music, go somewhere else, it isn´t for you, earbuds are more suited for that; but if any TeamSpeak, skype, or online chatting will be involved eventually, it is on the spot. Counter-Strike coupled with Teamspeak gets a whole new feel to it. Reply
43st - Friday, November 05, 2010 - linkWhy do hardware enthusiast websites review cheap headphones? Processor reviews are usually the latest and greatest on the market as well as GPU, storage, etc. Shouldn't you be reviewing audio hardware at the level of the HD800 instead? Reply
Gonemad - Friday, November 05, 2010 - linkAfter blowing the best part of $500 on a great GPU, a speedy SSD (er, storage), and a 7.1 audio system, you forgot that everybody is asleep and you can't have the amplifier as loud as you'd like, but you still want to hear it loud. Enter the budget headphones.
Plus your brother stole your good headphones for his (insert fancy mp3 player here). Try that with a USB socket now! hehe... Reply
Amart - Saturday, November 06, 2010 - linkYour Audio quality comparison is BOSE? I stopped reading.
You shouldn't be writing audio reviews if you are ill-informed enough to use their products.
Please visit head-fi.org and take a long hard look at the sub $130 Headphone market.
BOSE is somewhere at the bottom. I'd rather listen to my $15 KSC 75 backups.
A good gaming Headphone to use with a clip-on Mic would be Audio Technica AD700 - less then $100, great soundstage (to read opponent positions), and good audio quality for the price. Reply
Kaboose - Saturday, November 06, 2010 - linkIf you stopped reading at "bose" then you missed the writer explaining why he has them and that "cue the audiophiles screaming" was meant to stop people like you from assuming he is "ill-informed" he clearly understands bose are over rated crap and he has them for comfort, calling him "ill-informed" is not only rude and disrespectful but inaccurate. I personally have a pair of Denon AH D-2000, and I use the mic on my logitech webcam for my main mic. Total cost was ~$300 I dont reccomend this because of the price but for good audio quality you have to pay for it. However, for most people must having a $50 headsets will suffice and. Reply
Amart - Monday, November 08, 2010 - linkThere are better choices in headphones - even from a Comfort perspective.
Denon, ATH, Sony, Sennheiser... you have so many decent choices.
I like the AD700 specifically because they added some weight distribution and they don't get uncomfortable over time. Sennheiser has their street style headphones that are just as light and comfortable as the BOSE, but are 1/3 the price and have superior sound quality. Your Denon set is probably not any less comfortable - but it's superior in every other way.
Yeah, I'm rude and disrespectful, I'm tired of the unprofessional reviews of gaming equipment that enables manufacturers to scam uneducated consumers.
Why can't AnandTech reviews contain the same level of depth as a Head-Fi forum post? Why did no one pick up on ESReality's MouseScore? Reply
Amart - Monday, November 08, 2010 - linkP.S. Where do you pull the $300 from?
$15 shipped for a clip on mic (or the cheapest headset mic from a $1 store)
$80 to $100 for Decent Headphones (with good options at $15, $35, and $60).
The entry level to "Audiophile" aka Not-Terrible sound quality is $20. Koss KSC75 + $1 Microphone. Probably still better then BOSE even at that price. Reply
Kaboose - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - link~$300 was for my setup about 200 for the Denon's and then another 80 or so for the webcam mic combo. i know it can be done for cheaper i was only stating about 300 for MY setup. Reply
faxon - Sunday, November 07, 2010 - linkfirst things first, AUDIOPHILES ARE SCREAMING! read the first paragraph and was thinking "this guy needs to get his priorities in line"! i actually picked a pair of wireframe glasses out that make me look like a major nerdgeektard but are comfy no matter what headphones i wear. use a pair of sennheiser PC350s for my headset, and ultrasone PRO 2500s for my audiophile grade listening, and while my UGA frames (swedish designer frames) ram into my head like a vice with whatever i wear, i have some old ass wireframes i have had for a decade that i keep the lenses updated in as well, which i cant even feel on my face when wearing the same headphones. just a thought, but you might want to consider investing in a pair of cheap wireframes just for your computer use. if you can afford to buy audiophile grade headphones for $300+ a pop, with an external DAC and amp, then surely you can pay for a $150 pair of shitty ass frames that fit right with them :) Reply
Kaboose - Sunday, November 07, 2010 - link+1
I luckily don't need glasses except for distance so I take them off at the computer, but I also bought a cheap pair of wire frames for when I want to watch a movie on the tv with my headphones. Reply
audiophilleee - Saturday, November 13, 2010 - linkthese are better, and a lot cheaper. who wants to pay $100 for "simulated" surround?
www.driverstorer.com/zalman1 Reply
hangtoks - Monday, April 11, 2011 - linkI have used quite a few different gaming headsets but, the best resource I found to get an impartial view on them can be found at http://www.gamingheadsetreport.com, they are constantly adding new headset reviews. Reply

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In 2009, the United States Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) released updated guidelines for breast cancer screening. The updates called for changes in well-known current practices for mammograms and breast exams. These changes caught a great deal of media attention and raised public confusion and concern.
Breast Cancer Screening
Breast cancer screening tests are designed to find cancer in people who do not have symptoms. The hope is that finding cancer earlier will prevent cancer deaths. Research has tried to measure how well screening tests are doing this. Current breast cancer screening options include mammograms, breast exam by a healthcare provider, and breast self-exam.
The USPSTF is a panel of experts in medicine that reviews research and develops guidelines for disease prevention and screening. The American Cancer Society (ACS) and American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) also provide guidelines for screening. These organizations create their guidelines based on their interpretation of current research.
Below are guidelines from USPSTF, ACS, and ACOG and summaries of current research. These guidelines and evidence summaries are for women with no symptoms or family history of breast cancer.
*The USPSTF recommends against telling all women aged 40-49 years they should have mammograms. The decision to start screening every 2 years before the age of 50 years should be an individual one. It should be based on each person's values regarding specific risks and benefits.
There have been many studies on mammograms, but they were not done perfectly. As a result, experts analyzing the research may reach different conclusions.
For women 40-69 years, regular mammograms appear to reduce the risk of dying from breast cancer. There is little evidence about the benefit of mammograms in women aged 70 years or older.
Studies suggest that screening starting at age 40 provides a small reduction in the risk of dying from breast cancer when compared to starting screening at age 50. No change in the overall risk of dying for any reason has been shown. There is also a chance of having abnormal test results that are not cancer. This can lead to unnecessary tests, procedures, and stress.
Here is an example of the effect of mammography for women 40-49 years. If 1,000 women in this age group get a screening mammogram:
- one woman will have a cancer that is not seen on the mammogram
- 100 will have an abnormal mammogram. Out of these women:
- 90 will be watched more closely with imaging, but not have a biopsy
- 10 of these women with an abnormal mammogram will have a biopsy (to determine if cancer is present)
- 8 of these women will not have cancer
- 2 of these women will have cancer discovered
Here is an example of the effect of mammography for women aged 50-69 years. If 1,000 women in this age group get a screening mammogram:
- one woman will have a cancer that is not seen by the mammogram
- 83 will have an abnormal mammograms. Out of these women:
- 72 will be watched more closely with imaging, but not have a biopsy
- 11 will have a biopsy (to determine if cancer is present)
- 7 of these women will not have cancer
- 4 of these women will have cancer discovered
Clinical Breast Exam by Healthcare Professional
There is very little evidence about the clinical breast exam. One study suggests a clinical breast exam may be as helpful as a mammogram.
Breast Self-Exam
There are studies comparing women who regularly check their breasts and women who do not. These studies all show no effect on the risk of dying from breast cancer. These studies do show an increase in finding lumps that are not cancer. This can lead to unnecessary medical tests, procedures, and stress.
If you are interested in self-exam, get instructed on the proper technique. It is more important to have breast self-awareness so you can report any breast changes to your healthcare provider.
Final Decisions
This information can be confusing. Your age, overall health status, and family history of cancer may affect your decision to have screening tests. Discuss the risks and benefits of breast cancer screening specific to you with your healthcare provider.
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In my master bedroom, I wanted an extra large headboard that would make a statement.Here are my instructions on how to make a fabric headboard…not just any fabric headboard...you'll see.
Step 1: Find fabric that you love! I found this fabric at my favorite fabric store called Home Fabrics and Rugs. It cost 5.99 a yard, and I bought 10 yards. (I still have some left over, but we'll just play it safe and say it cost me $59.00 for the fabric. One of the main reasons I chose this fabric was because it was neutral in color. I like to change the colors in my room every year or two, and this fabric will allow for that. Sidenote: think of how cheap this would be if you got fabric at Home Fabric's $1.00 a yard sale!
Step 2: Measure your space. We wanted ours to take up basically the whole wall. 🙂 Go big or go home right!?!?
Step 3: Divide your space into squares. You can decide how big your squares will be. BUT…an important part of this is to make sure that your fabric pattern is large enough to make enough squares with the exact same pattern.
Step 4: Buy 2 sheets of thin backer board and cut them PRECISELY the right size. Thanks to my hubsters, I didn't have much to do with this part. The boards we bought cost approx. $6.00 each so with both of them we spent $12.00. Sidenote: your second sheet of the board will be used to mount your squares to.
Step 5: Buy some foam and cut it into precisely the right size. We used mattress toppers. We bought one at Wal-Mart for $7.00 and bought another at a yard sale for $2.00. The foam we bought was 1 inch thick. Total for foam: $9.00.
Step 6: Cut the fabric. You need to add 1 1/2 inches on all four sides to allow extra fabric for upholstering. Sidenote: make sure you have a sharp blade on your olfa cutter or a sharp set of fabric scissors. I ended up cutting them all by hand because my olfa blade was not working.
Step 7: Upholster every square.
I'm not going to lie, this part was very frustrating. We found that the boards were not easy to upholster to because the boards were very hard to get the staples to go into. So, LEARN FROM MY MISTAKE…make sure you buy a board that staples will go through.
We had to HOT GLUE to fabric onto the boards and then the staples would go through. This added a few steps and a lot of time to the process.
We also made pencil marks on the back sides of the boards to use as guides of how far to pull the fabric. We wanted each square to look the EXACT same to make sure the patterns weren't messed up.
Step 8. Prep your space. In our case we wanted the headboard to be a contrasting color to the wall, so my cute hubby painted it charcoal gray. (Update 5/19/10: I do not have the exact color of paint because it was an OOPS paint from Home Depot and the oops paints are not tinted correctly. I would give you the color if I knew it). I knew that most of the wall would be covered with the headboard and only a few feet on each side would show of the gray, so I was not worried about the color being too dark.
Step 9: Lay out your squares and decide on their position. It will be to your advantage to decide on the exact place of your squares ahead of time. Although we tried our hardest to make sure that each square was precisely the same size, we still moved squares around because some fit better than others.
Step 10. Mount the squares on the backer board securely.
UPDATE (May 19) I wanted to answer some of your questions about the mounting process. We (my husband and I) decided to mount the individual boards to one larger backer board so that it could be hung as one piece. We used liquid nails and short 1/4 inch wood screws to secure the upholstered boards to the backer board.
After all 17 boards were secure, we used two D-ring hooks to hang the headboard. Important: We had to install the D-rings in precisely the right place on the back of the headboard. The hooks were aligned for studs in the wall since the headboard was so heavy.
Step 11: Hang your headboard. (Make sure your hardware is secured to studs in the wall).


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Previewing AMD's Brazos, Part 1: More Details on Zacate/Ontario and Fusionby Anand Lal Shimpi on 11/9/2010 1:09 AM EST
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creathir - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkIt should be interesting to see how efficient these chips are under load. Could we be seeing the development of a pretty slick tablet platform here?
Did you enjoy your time in Austin? It is such a beautiful place. Next time you're down this way ya need to take a drive out to Lost Maples State Park (about an hour west of San Antonio)
It's very nice.
Look forward to the performance numbers... Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkSo the 9W TDP Ontario products will have Bobcat running at only 1-1.2Ghz? Lol, so much for all the AMD forum hype that Bobcat would "own" Atom.
I think another problem with the 18W Zacate products is that they will compete with the low-end Celeron and Pentium chips. Intel may update their lineup and replace the Celerons/Pentiums with low end i3 models.
As expected, Bobcat will not even come close to 2Ghz clock rates.
Based on the data here in this article, Bobcat may not be the home run some people are expecting it to be. Reply
cyrusfox - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkThere is so much fail in your statement. You think because ontario has a slower processor speed then atom (1Ghz to 1.6Ghz) That the atom processor is more powerfulI highly doubt Atom will have more CPU processing power than ontario. But even if atom is still more powerful in CPU compute, its crippled IGP brings it to its knees on any sort of multimedia. Ontario with its fusion APU will feel like it blows atoms out of the water as it seamlessly handles all the media you throw at it. This is huge for consumer satisfaction. Much more important than how fast it can compute super Pi. Reply
AnandThenMan - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkAtom is a dog, both on the CPU and GPU side. Ever use an Atom based system? You need the long battery life, because it takes you forever to do anything. And forget about anything other than very basic graphics on the Atom.
Atom based systems have a very high return rate because of this. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkExcept you're forgetting future Atom platforms will be system-on-a-chip designs. All future Atoms will be far more integrated than Ontario or Zacate platforms, because Ontario and Zacate will not be system-on-a-chip designs.
The 9W Bobcats will compete with Atom, but the 18W products will compete with Celerons, Pentiums, and low-end i3s.
All Intel has to do is put a good GPU into future Atom SoC designs and whatever advantage Bobcat may have is negated. On that note, let's wait and see how the GPU is on future Atom platforms. Reply
Jamahl - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkA good gpu from intel? How far into the future are we talking about here? Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkSandy Bridge's integrated GPU will perform at roughly Geforce 310M performance levels, which is "good enough" for most average people. I don't think it would be very hard for Intel to integrate that GPU somehow with Atom in an SoC design. Reply
Prosthetic Head - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkJust to point out here that AMD can easily integrate bobcat cores in to SoCs. They are being manufactured by TSMC and will shortly get even smaller and more efficient with a process shrink. AMD specifically negotiated the right to outsource manufacture and to sub-licence x86 technology in their recent settlement with Intel. That suggests to me that they do in fact intend to manufacture or licence out an x86 SoC design. Reply
meksta - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkExcept you are forgetting that you are comparing apples to oranges.
Why would the 18W products compete with Celerons and Pentiums and I3s? If so, then you have to combine a southbridge and/or GPU into your calculations......oh how much will that work out to be? Reply
taltamir - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - link
Why would the 18W products compete with Celerons and Pentiums and I3s
Because they have similar power consumption. The intel ultra low power or whatever they call it now i3s reach such low power consumption levels.
but it requires intel to massively cut down clockspeed, and also to compete with a large expensive chip. The point of the atom is that its so damn small, this makes it really really cheap for intel to manufacture, thus increasing their margins. Could intel bring us an i3 with an extremely low clockspeed and power? yes...
will intel do that? probably not. Reply
flyck - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkDon't forget the chip is manufactured on 40nm. I believe ontario platform released will be ok for the current market. The GF 28nm node for the next models will be the thing that will make ontario succeed or fail. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkBy the time the next models on 28mm come out, Atom will be redesigned for out-of-order execution, and ultra low voltage Ivy Bridge models will likely be on sale at the low-end. Reply
mino - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkCheap Ivy Bridge, powerful yet low power Intel IGP, ... Atom faster that Bobcat ...
I do not know what you are smoking, but it must be good.
There will be no cheap low power IB. Well, not before 2013.
Ontario #2 is here Q1 2012. How about that.
/end troll reply Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkOntario #2 will be here Q1 2012? Really? Is that the one on the 28nm process? Somehow I doubt that AMD will release it at that time.
Point is, I wouldn't be so sure of Bobcat being a huge success. Let's wait and see what happens shall we? Reply
mino - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkYes, the 28nm one.
Bobcat is the right design for the right market at the right time (even pulled in quarter!) for a great price.
There is possibly no way for it to not succeed. The question remains, how much. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkLow-end laptops mostly use Celerons and Pentiums. I don't see Bobcat changing that situation much.
Bobcat could do well with netbooks, except there is a problem. Netbook market share is declining, mainly due to the iPad.
So in reality, Bobcat has to compete not just with Intel, but also with Apple.
The only other viable market might be the HTPC market. That is not a very big market though, and Intel is pushing hard in that market as of now. Reply
sprockkets - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkWhy? The whole point of atom is ultra low power usage in devices like phones where ARM dominates.
Never going to happen. Reply
Kiijibari - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkYou forget the fundamentally difference between Atom and Bobcat:
Bobcat is a OoO CPU, Atom is a InOrder CPU.
Therefore Bobcat will have a much higher performance per clock. If 500 Mhz clock advantage is enough for Atom to beat Bobcat has to be seen.
You might compare that to the i5-760 vs. Phenom2 955/965 situation. Even though the Phenoms run at higher clocks, they are not faster as the lower clocked i5. That's because the i5 has a higher IPC, too. In that case not because of OoO <> InO, but that doesn't matter for the comparison. Reply
mino - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkActually we have a wery good comparison available right on the market. It is even hinted in the article.
Just take 1,3GHz CULV C2D, pair it with a lower clocked 5450 and we are in the ballpark of 18W ontario give or take 10%.
Now we just need to remember where Atom stands relative to C2D ... Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkAtom will improve, Intel won't be sitting still. Reply
meksta - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkSo everyone besides Intel sits still? What a pointless comment. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkWhat a pointless reply. Mino's reply assumes that Atom will remain in-order, which it will NOT. Atom will be redesigned for out-of-order in 2012. Reply
mino - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkFor most of (if not all of) the Ontario market life Atom WILL remain in-order. That is a public information from Intel itself. Reply
sprockkets - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkwhy? Intel hates atom. It kills their higher margin CPUs. They want that for phones and tablets, not full blown PCs.
If anything, AMD is the only reason Atom will improve. Heck, Intel's atom is so lame that on their own Meego platform, they can't even provide decent video drivers because the video card portion is 3rd party.
Oh no! What will happen if someone like AMD or nvidia got their hands on their video tech through their open source drivers! Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkWho said we were talking about "full blown PCs"? Obviously Atom is only meant for small devices like netbooks. Ontario Bobcats are aimed at a similar market.
Also I fail to see how Intel "hates" Atom. Why would they develop it in the first place? Why would Intel be pushing Atom SoCs to market so hard? Your comment makes no sense.
Intel LIKES Atom and they are trying to use Atom to take away some of ARM's marketshare. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkFuture Atoms will be mostly SoC designs, while the Bobcat platforms are not. Zacate Bobcats will compete with Celeron and Pentium models anyways, not Atom. Ontario Bobcats will compete with Atoms. While Bobcat will have a per-clock advantage over Atom, it remains to be seen how Bobcat will perform when compared to Celeron and Pentium systems.
We're not just talking about a 500 Mhz clock difference here though. The Intel Z560 Atom already runs at 2.13 Ghz, although it is a single core design. The Atom D525 dual core runs at 1.8 Ghz. That is a clock difference of 600-800 Mhz compared to the Ontario Bobcats. Reply
bigboxes - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkCalm down fanboi. Your quest is to protect your damsel Intel from harm to her reputation. We get it. Reply
krumme - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkAtom D525 is 13W TDP, 87mm2 and more expensive packaging than zakate. Get the facts dude, zakate is cheaper than Atom and as you say near core 2 speed. Wellcome the the new wold. As zakate is cheaper than Atom, Intel can not use core i whatever or something more expensive, because they will loose tons of money doing so. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkFacts? Nice assumptions you have there. Can you show us all *FACTUAL* proof that Zacate is cheaper than Atom? If you can't, I would stop listing your assumptions as "facts". Reply
iwodo - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkHe is referring to 87mm2 and 75mm2 die size. Smaller Die Size means Cheaper. Reply
khimera2000 - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkand to match atoms Visual performance you will have to add in a nvidia card, which means on its own the atom missess out since smart users will want to use the power of there video cards to accelerate there daily tasks. Im already using it in microsoft office, the beta of IE8 and BETA firefox.
Truth is intel does not have an image for fast video cards, and thats probably going to hurt the more in the long run then AMD's rep for making a good alternative. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkCan you show me concrete proof that is is cheaper for AMD specifically to make a 75mm2 chip than it is for Intel to make an 87mm2 chip? We can assume its cheaper, but we have no concrete facts to back this up. The die size difference between 75 and 87 is negligible. Reply
nafhan - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkThe i3 is a bigger more complicated chip and package (MCM). The ULV i3's are in the same power envelope (18W), but by moving to an i3 you'd be trading GPU power and (at least to Intel) a higher price for additional CPU power. So, depending on the application, it might not be an upgrade.
Also, with the Ontario vs. Atom, it's again going to be about the GPU. Probably very similar CPU power with much improved GPU capabilities.
Even if it's not a "home run", it's AMD leveraging their expertise and hitting Intel where they have a hole in their lineup. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkYes, until Intel covers that hole, and we are back to the usual state of things, AMD being behind Intel. Reply
Prosthetic Head - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkSorry, but you seem to be totally missing the point. The architectural differences mean that even at 1GHz bobcat is very likely to beat the 1.6GHz atom, even in most CPU bound workloads. Atom is an incredibly poorly performing 'in order' architecture.
What you are saying is not much better than kids back in 2003 saying that "a 2.8GHz P4 Celeron MUST beat a 1.8GHz Athlon64 because its got over 1/3rd more GHz!!!"
The graphics system is also very important for the target market, a mediocre system can still feel very snappy in most likely usage scenarios provided it has a capable graphics subsystem. Now that many of the highly CPU bound media tasks (HD playback, transcoding, compression) are starting to make use of gpGPUs that will become even more important. Intel may POSSIBLY be able to get adequate 2d/3d acceleration working and integrated soon, but they are very far behind AMD here and have never marketed a CUDA/Stream/OpenCL capable chip and driver - thats a lot of catch-up work to do. Reply
MFK - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkWish I could up-vote you like Reddit/Engadget.
But yeah, basically what I was gonna say. Reply
nitrousoxide - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkP4 is running at almost 3 times the frequency of Athlon64...don't forget that its ALU runs at double frequency of the core (5.6GHz for a 2.8GHz P4) Reply
jollyjugg - Thursday, November 11, 2010 - linkExcept what you are forgetting is that Bobcat is an out of order core and Atom is an inorder core. There is a lot of difference between these styles of architectures. What matters is not entirely the clock speed but also IPC. Only running a CPU at a higher frequency would be a brute force approach. Out of order processor has a much higher IPC than in order processor. Hence dont under estimate the CPU yet until you have seen Anand's promised performance numbers next week. Also however the CPU turns out, it is a real boon for people in the netbook segment to get a good graphics. People are frustrated with Intel's sucked up graphics and their over priced Atom based systems which hardly measure up to anything. It may not be something that turns the world upside down. But nevertheless it will be something that will be very welcome. We should also not forget that fusion is in their initial stages. It will get better with time.
This is one thing Intel will take a long time catching up Graphics!!!!!! We may never know. Visual experience is something which is very powerful. It captures people's imagination. At an outset iphone and another phone may look the same. But its the performance that is the clincher. If this performs this is clinch for sure. Reply
SteelCity1981 - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkIf it's based on the Evergreen architecture then why not just call it Radeon 5310 and 5250 series? Just confusing to call a Radeon GPU a 6310 and a 6250 when it's based on the Radeon 5 series. Especially considering there will be no new Radeon 6 series that will come out lower then the 6800 series. Reply
mino - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkWell, 6800 series itself is heavily based on the 5000 series so ...
It is all just branding. And, there WILL be more 6000 series parts. Llano being a confirmed one with at least Turks on the table as well. Reply
Zingam - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkNow that's a picture I like a lot! It is so nerdy! :D Reply
Mr Perfect - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkThe picture of the test setup? Yeah, I like the Pro Networking! "Faceplates? We don't need no stinking faceplates!" Reply
Markstar - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - link...is when I can see something like this for the Desktop. Obviously this would be awesome
Also, it becomes pretty apparent that AMD is falling behind more and more when it comes to the manufacturing process. TSMC's troubled 40nm process just doesn't cut it anymore and AMD's own process is pretty far behind as well.
Also, while I often tell people that they don't need to replace their 4 year old computer to check emails, 1/1.2GHz does sound a little low. Reply
mino - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkQ1, there are plenty of ITX designs in the pipe. I just hope someone is smart enough to do a bunch of mATX ones too.
Nobody is proposing the 9W for desktops. Also, 1Ghz dual Bobcat shall be in the ballpark of "high-end" Atoms as far as GUI "snappiness" goes. Reply
jabber - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkI've been using a dual core 1.3GHz CULV setup for the past year and its been perfect.
I cant tell any day to day difference between it and my 3.4GHz quadcore box.
The need for more CPU power for the day to day tasks mentioned in the article past a long time ago.
The 1.3GHz CULV benches almost as fast as a 3GHz P4D from a few years back. Plenty fast enough.
Remember this platform is aimed at mum and dad boxes. Also I've been farming out dual core Atom ION boxes for office use the past year. Had nothing but positive feedback. Customers love them. Big step up from all those 3GHz single core P4 or AthlonXP boxes they struggled with before.
All hail efficent low power for the mainstream. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkThat's going to be a potential problem for AMD. If people like their Atom boxes, what would entice them to switch to AMD Ontario or Zacate boxes? Reply
jabber - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkNot sure thats an issue.
Its about appealing to those that havent made any switch yet.
If my customer base is anything to go by there are masses of folks out there struggling along with 3GHz P4 boxes with 512MB of ram and 80GB slow HDDs
They think thats average PC performance. Give them anything under $500 new off the shelf and its a revelation to them.
We really will see a clear divergance of PC use over the next two years.
There will be the small group of hardcore gamers and benchmark junkies.
There will be the small group of specialists/developers/number crunchers.
Then there will be the rest whose CPU needs were met a long time ago and just need the ideal rounded package of CPU/GPU/Media to take care of them. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkA lot of average people haven't even moved completely to HD videos yet. Current P4 boxes are actually enough for more people than you think.
A Celeron or Atom box is enough for a lot of people. You're making an assumption that a large group of buyers *want* something more powerful than an Atom or Celeron, which are the price points Bobcat is aiming at. I think it's debatable how large such a group is. Reply
khimera2000 - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkI think that it will do well. sub 500 sounds fine, and i think there will be a significant group of people who will by this for there kids as there first machine. My brother go an atom job for his son and he hasent even broken out of grade school yet.
for the old and intrench.. might be a struggle but for the younger kids i think AMD will do well since they spend most of the time farming on facebook, which will help with gpgpu and the 6xxx vid card. Reply
Zoomer - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkThe Sim 5000. Reply
Zoomer - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkSorry. I meant:
The Sims 5000 Reply
dayanth - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkHow fast it can run Minecraft? Reply
Freddo - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkReally curious how well AMD C-50 will run 1080p H.264 videos, like this 1080p60 encode video from Digital Foundry; http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-f...
If it can run it well, I will be sure to buy one AMD C-50 netbook next year, and use it as a HTPC. Also, it should obviously have HDMI for that, and preferably a good metal build quality. Reply
Freddo - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkOh, and how well it can run a PS1 emulator. Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkYou mean a PS2 emulator? Anything should be able to run a PS1 emulator. I dont mess with ps1, but when I run the N64 emulator, I get literally 0% cpu usage from it. Reply
Freddo - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkNope, I mean a PS1 emulator.
I remember it's not working well on my 833Mhz computer from 2000, but it worked fine on my 1.5GHz computer from 2002.
And AMD C-50 got two 1.0GHz cores. Reply
khimera2000 - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linksince the PS1 emulator runs relatively fine on a PSP i dont think it will be an issue. Reply
iwod - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkI have a Pentium M 1.8Ghz with Radeon X1600M Laptop. I wonder if the Top Range Dual Core 1.6Ghz Bobcat with 500Mhz 6310 will beat my Laptop Performance, which i considered to be capable for 95% of my work load with an SSD. It is only lacking in playing High Def Video, but UVD 3 solve that problem easily.
How much would these thing cost? 70mm2 only sounds ridiculously cheap to make with only 480 pins on 40nm2. Reply
mino - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkCPU will be a bit faster (think dual 1,5GHz Pentium M)
GPU will be 1/2 the speed or less - you have a relatively powerful GPU in there. Reply
nafhan - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkI think the GPU would actually be pretty close.
Comparing the 530v (which should be pretty close to Bobcat performance: 80 shaders @ 470, 64bit mem bus) and the mobile x1600, the 530v comes out on top by a small margin according to notebook check:
Ontario, on the other hand, should be about half since the GPU speed is around half. Reply
iwodo - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkRelatively powerful GPU sounds not very good. If i consider 1 being first gen, 6 would be 6th gen already. Even though some of these are half gen, I would be very sad if a 5 years later Low end GPU cant outplaform my Mid Range from Gfx computer.. Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkX1600M looks like a slightly faster nvidia ION. Zacate is definately faster than that. According to the numbers from the preview from 6 weeks ago, it will be about 30% faster.
The question is, how close will Ontario be to beating the performance of your X1600M laptop? I bet they will be so close you wont be able to tell the difference. Reply
plonk420 - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linki can't wait to put this in my HTPC!
i just hope it can keep up with AnyDVD HD and realtime BD+ decryption... Reply
Setsunayaki - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkTrue freedom isn't about the actual processor. Its about the performance.
If you run windows even under a low performance setting, the system is hurt by the fact one needs to run antiviruses, firewalls, spyware and adware removal tools. It means running Windows with a pair of bobcats + the GPUs are going to have their power spent on keeping those "Security" programs up.
AMD itself can not code a decent Linux Driver to the point performance is going to be shot to hell on Linux.
I'd much rather have a laptop with an nvidia solution running a linux system as it means I get performance since decent nvidia drivers exist on linux, and one doesn't have to run any of the security programs one has to run on Linux and the performance efficiency is a lot higher on Linux.
All what fusion is going to do is increase the level of dependency people have to windows. Reply
jabber - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkAll you need is MS Security Essentials and maybe Malwarebytes sitting there dormant as a backup.
Dont need anything more.
Shouldnt make any PC sweat. Reply
blowfish - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkThat's got to be a joke! Have you ever noticed how MSSE can put a system into a pregnant pause every now and then? Watch the service in Task Manager, for example. On a low powered system, those pauses could be very long, and quite disruptive. Reply
MFK - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkI have what I would consider a low powered PC.
An AMD 3200+ Athlon 64 Single Core.
1 GB of ram and a Nvidia 7200SE.
I have only MSSE and Zone Alarm installed on Windows 7 for almost a year now.
I have yet to have a problem with virus/spam/pop ups.
Point being: I have not noticed these pregnant pauses you speak of.
:S Reply
jabber - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkI havent seen them. Running it on around 8 of my own PCs (singles to quads). I think I would have seen that by now.
Maybe you have something wrong with your PC? Reply
Prosthetic Head - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkAMD/ATI Linux support has actually got a whole lot better in the last year or 2.
I've got a 4870 (closed catalyst driver) in my desktop which only ever runs Ubuntu, and an x300 (open 'radeon' driver) in my laptop. They are running well w.r.t both speed and stability.
AMD are also providing specs and some dev time to the open drivers so there is now varying levels of 2D and 3D acceleration working well in the open drivers - which is more than you can say for nVidia.
I have also found that AMD vs Intel performance results are different under linux vs windows (much windows software is compiled using intels ICC and with more optimisation effort for intel processors). AMD generally perform relativity better under Linux (GCC compiler). Reply
Marburg U - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkLarge versions of this article's images are unavailable. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkFixed :)
Take care,
Anand Reply
hvakrg - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkIs there any news on wether or not these Atom competitios will be able to bitstream audio? Reply
jabber - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - link....had to play on looks a little more complete than the spaghetti fest you chaps got. Reply
ET - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkI was hoping that Ontario will bring a significant performance jump over dual core Atom + Ion 2. While there's still a chance it will be faster, I don't think it will be by much.
I guess I will have to continue to wait (maybe forever) for a low end platform that would be good for basic gaming. I would happily give up DX11 to get twice as many DX9 cores. Reply
Aone - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkWhat will we see if we pair mobile Athlon with mobile discrete Radeon 54xx?
Will Brazos have the same perf, better or worse? Reply
Lolimaster - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkFusion Ontario/Zacate has the same performance of current Athlon II / Turion II Neo (same performance as regular (Athlon II).
Zacate GPU has lower clocks than of HD5400(500Mhz vs 650Mhz). That's the main difference.
Why people mention CULV when Athlon II / Turion II are there and destroy those options as a cpu/gpu combo(equal cpu perf. way way better gpu perf.)
80SP AMD GPU already surpass ION2 GPU.
What dissapointing? Look any comparison of the current 45nm Neo's, it's a slaughter for the poor Atoms, you'll see the same slaughter with Brazos but with improved battery life and the better gpu(twice the HD4250) Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkIf that thing really uses 4.7W its game over for AMD. No way should that part consume more than a watt. It should not even be there at all. Cant netbook manufacturers skip it entirely, and just go with a low power usb chip instead? What else do you need the FCH for on a netbook or a tablet? Reply
llllllllll - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkEh, the range was 2.7-4.7W TDP, which doesn't imply average power, just max for designing the enclosure.
Also, considering 3W is typical for a DIMM of memory, and this thing is driving up multiple SATA, PCI-E, & USB ports (which remember, you have to be able to charge devices over USB), doesn't seem unreasonable that under load it would draw that much power. Reply
Zstream - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkHow did you come to this conclusion?
"Zacate takes the top two SKUs, while Ontario makes up the bottom two. The difference in TDP is entirely based on the clock speed of the CPU and GPU. And here is my concern. While a pair of Bobcats running at 1.6GHz are just awesome, drop the clock to 1.0GHz and I start getting concerned about performance. AMD didn't let us test the C-50 but I'm curious to see what the margin of victory will be over Atom at that speed."
If you believe it is 100% on clock speed, we have a ton of leakage. Reply
JarredWalton - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkDoubling the maximum GPU speed and increasing CPU speed 60%, plus added voltage to get it to run properly, could easily result in a doubling of maximum power use. Reply
Guspaz - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkThese are still not really hybrid processors. They've taken a GPU and a CPU (well, two of 'em) and stuck them on the same die. There's no sharing of resources between the two.
A true hybrid chip would, in my opinion, share most of the hardware between the CPU and GPU. They'd share execution resources. For example, in these AMD chips, the CPU's SIMD instructions can't take advantage of the GPU's SIMD blocks, from what I'm seeing (forgive me if I'm misreading this all). Reply
Fleeb - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkHave you seen AMD's roadmap for this? It can answer your question. Reply
TemplarGR - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkThis hardware is amazing, and has many possible uses. The most obvious is in netbooks and ultraportables: It will simply destroy the competition. AMD is right, what this market segment needs right now is more gpu power, not cpu. If their use case involved higher cpu usage, they wouldn't get a netbook or ultraportable anyway.
This will also enable great tablets-ipad clones. Ideally a zacate tablet running Linux (for me).
I bought an Acer Aspire One more than 2 years ago, and i am frustrated by Intel policies. The GMA they paired original Atom netbooks with was garbage, consuming 5 times the power Atom consumed... And its performance sucks. Current Atoms still suck, although with more battery power, because Intel hates Atom since it has lower margins. They didn't really expect this kind of success, they didn't want to believe for most people cpu power is enough... They stopped advancing Atom so it is no wonder Netbook sales growth has reached negative numbers... But this tactic will become a boomerang for them...
It is nice seeing AMD making the hardware market exciting again! Reply
Gigantopithecus - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkCan't wait to see whatever numbers AMD lets you give us next week. Hopefully they'll be enough so I can decide whether to wait past the holiday season for Zacate or go with an N550 system now. Reply
rayson - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkthe total power draw for a netbook based on the brazos platform amd e-series will be 22-24 watts. the cpu performance for a amd e series will be equal to a core i5 520m.
i got proof look at the other amd slideshows and videos they have done they have even shown avp running on 720p medium setting bit choppy though Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkCPU performance equal to an i5 520m? Thanks for the laugh. No way that is the case. Reply
rayson - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linki am a intel fanboy but amd really will have me buying a netbook now Reply
fic2 - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkIn the AMD Brazos Lineup table it lists:
AMD E-350 2 1.6GHz
AMD E-240 1 1.5GHz
Seems like the clock speed of the E-350 and the E-240 are reversed unless the dual core does actually have a faster clock than the single.
I don't know why your spam program thinks my comment is spam. Reply
kjanadtech - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkGood article. I currently own a Intel SU4100 system (Gateway ec1430u). I am very interested in zacate platform vs. the intel SU processor platform. There are very few SU4100 + GPU platforms (read MAC Book Air and Zotac IONITX-O-E), so I hope your tests will include these systems as competitors.
What is more interesting (to me) is AMD's Universal Media Interface (UMI) and the Hudson FCH. A necessary upgrade for every ultra portable is a SSD. I hope we will see the SB800 chipset SATA6 performance. Also why isn't there any concern about the memory (CPU, GPU) bottleneck.
Staying tuned for the article next week and I hope to see benchmarks of the sata controller, especially SSD benchmarks, TRIM support, and overall SB800 throughput performance (USB, ethernet, etc). Reply
miahshodan - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkYeah, I have a gateway 1803 with a su3500 (core 2 solo 1.4) and even with only one core, it is fairly fast, much faster than an Atom with only a 5.5 watt TDP. I am not sure what the TDP of the graphics on the 945 is. The 945 graphics are certainly nothing real impressive, but they will do 720p youtube and accelerated ie9 beta is pretty fast. I see the Su line as the best competitor for the bobcat, and would like to see them compared. Reply
miahshodan - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkI meant HD4500 graphics, not 945 Reply
asmoma - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkFirst gen CULV does have lower power consumption than brazos and about the same as 2. gen CULV.
5,31(minutes/wh)*1,35 is 7(minutes/wh). But because only the cpu and chipset is taken into consideration, the actual minutes/wh is lower.
This does not make the brazos platform a bad product(like the yukon and congo platform(rubbish!)), but it won't be a product for high end(high quality) products like macbooks and vaio z. Reply
asmoma - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - link"5,31(minutes/wh)*1,35 is 7(minutes/wh). But because only the cpu and chipset is taken into consideration, the actual minutes/wh is lower"
Maybe even lower than 2. gen culv Reply
jbhunt17 - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkWhat game is that on the screen? Looks cool. Reply
LeftSide - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkAnand,
Will these new amd processors support ECC ram? I want to build a new low power Windows Home Server, and want to use ECC ram. Atom is too slow and doesn't support it.
Thanks! Reply
ProDigit - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkDarn, Homer Simpson's APU would not like it to be compared to a computer chip!
So what do we call it, APU (A-Poo, APU with the u from 'under' or the U from 'unanimous')? Reply
ProDigit - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkIn all honesty, those cpu's + GPU's are good enough for (heavy powerdrawing) netbooks, not notebooks or laptops, and especially not desktops!
They may be good for HTPC's or small servers, but I see no unit strong enough to replace a C2Duo laptop (or desktop). (especially not at the price). Reply
jabber - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkAgain this setup isnt for enthusiasts.
Its not designed with you in mind.
Its designed for your mum and dad who are still hobbling along with their old P4 or Celeron machine they bought back in 2005.
Its designed for the knock about family PC that gets used mainly for Ebay, Messenger and Facebook and may allow the 13 year old daughter to play the Sims.
This will be plenty powerful enough for small low power boxes in the home. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - linkWhether you know anyone who wants an iPad is irrelevant. Personal anecdotal observations are frankly irrelevant.
It is a statistical fact that *since* the iPad went on sale, netbook sales have been declining harder. Acer in particular is suffering as its netbook sales over the last few months have been down BIG-TIME, and Acer is one of the big netbook OEMs.
Millions of iPads have already been sold, and Apple continues to sell them at a very high rate.
Yes Atom's lack of performance in some areas might have contributed. However it is ludicrous to completely deny the impact the iPad is having on netbook sales. Reply
bloodterfly - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkFor someone who uses statistics as an argument, you seem highly ignorant of the fact correlation != causation.
iPad goes up, net books go down doesn't prove anything.
Any number of myriad factors could've caused netbooks to stop selling. Reply
Dark_Archonis - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkYou're right, and as I said, the iPad is likely not the ONLY cause.
However, the fact remains that netbook sales are collapsing and I don't see them improving. Reply
mino - Thursday, November 11, 2010 - link"Netbook" sales are collapsing for 2 reasons:
1) crappy performance
2) stupid Intel restrictions
Both of which are to be remedied by Ontario ... Reply
Dark_Archonis - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkFunny you mention that, as AMD is in a similar situation. Bobcat is too power-hungry to compete with ARM, but it doesn't have enough performance to direct compete with Celerons, Pentiums, and i3s. Bobcat will have more CPU performance than Atom it seems, but to what end?
AMD has Intel on one side and Apple on the other side. As I already said, netbooks are facing direct competition from the iPad. This is competition that BOTH Intel and AMD have to deal with. For laptops, i3 and i5 processors still reign supreme in terms of CPU performance, heat, and power efficiency. Sandy Bridge laptops will significantly improve GPU performance.
Intel is trying to put most of its Atom focus to TVs, HTPCs, tablets, and phones. Of course they face competition from ARM and Apple.
Atom may be too power-hungry at the moment, but future Atoms will further decrease the TDP to far below Bobcat levels. Reply
ze_troll - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkLAST TIME I CHECKED BRO I DUN THINK ANYTHING IS DIRECTLY COMPETING WITH CELERONS AND PENTIUMS BCUZ THEY R DED TEKNOLOGEES.
HEY DARK_ARSCHONIS, THE YEAR 2000 CALLED, THEY WANT THEIR CPU BACK LOL Reply
Dark_Archonis - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkhttp://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/cdetland.to?po...
Look, CELERON and PENTIUM processors for sale. Just because they still carry old names, does not mean they are dead technology. They are Core and Core 2-based CPUs simply renamed.
Now go back under your bridge troll. Reply
Zoolookuk - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - linkLots of comments here about this Vs Atom, but I think people are entirely missing the point about ultra-low power devices.
First of all, what about ARM? The AMD/Intel rivalry is interesting if people still think that small devices will run Windows 7 Professional, or even OS X, but the reality is that OSes are changing. Android and most obviously iOS work differently, and I suspect that even OS X is moving much more towards GPGPU capabilities that make the CPU almost secondary.
RISC and APU designs will be far more important in the next 5 years than they were in tghe last 15 years, and because of this, Intel probably has the biggest hill to climb. AMD understood this in 2006, which is why they bought ATI. Reply


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Vincent Simone and Flavia Cacace have dazzled television audiences for six series of the BBC's Strictly Come Dancing with their stunning Tango routines. Now they have created their own live show, Midnight Tango, a breathtaking evening bringing to life all the drama, sensuality and elegance of this most exciting of dance forms.
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Vincent Simone and Flavia Cacace, stars of BBC TV's Strictly Come Dancing.
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