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TNB: What Would Warren Harding Do?
DURING A HOT summer day, while climbing with my friend Dan, I took off my shirt. Sorry, it happens. The muzzle-loading firearm that is my pallid skin shot a round of the sun's white-hot reflection at everyone within range. There was an instant massacre of eyeballs and appetites. Say what you want. It was horrible, of course, but equally serendipitous. For that day I learned more about who I really am.
"Dude," Dan said, squinting at me through his fingers, "your chest hair looks like the Bat Signal."
"What?" I said. "Does not."
"Yes, it does," he said. "Look." He pointed his finger right at my heart, and began drawing in the air what I assumed was the iconic insignia. "See? You're Batman," he said.
"Am not," I said weakly.
No! It can't be. I'm not Batman. There's no way. Spiderman, perhaps. I certainly relate much better to a nerd given superpowers from a spider bite than a gadget-crazy closet homosexual with too much money. Anybody but Batman!
"I'd much rather be Batso," I said, beginning to think more clearly. I doused my mitts with a heavy coating of liquid chalk. "Yes. That's right. You meant to say Batso."
"Batso, man! Warren Harding! First ascent of the Nose, drank a bottle of red wine every day, ran around with hot women and drove fast cars, and didn't give a damn about anything." These were a few details I know about Warren Harding, and to me, the only ones that really mattered. Yes, indeed, I've always felt a special connection to Batso, the half-cocked pioneer of the absurd, built like a brick shithouse, and master of the irreverent. To me, Batso is the sport's only true hero or anti-hero. He single-handedly saved climbing from becoming another institution by showing that in climbing, fun and danger can co-exist, and that a keen ability to listen to your internal voice, dark and raw as it may be, is a rare type of freedom that will lead you up walls bigger and harder than anything you've ever imagined. To me, that attitude could save the world.
"That does kinda sound like you," Dan said. "Except you didn't make the first ascent of El Cap and you drive a 1996 Nissan Sentra. Otherwise, sure, you're a lot like Batso. Are you going to climb or what?"
"OK. You got me?"
"I got you Batman," he snuck in under his breath.
"Screw you, Dan," I said. "Watch me at the third bolt. I WILL fall there!"
In the most sugary section of our collective unconscious is a story about an old lady's cat getting stuck in a tree, and how a fireman rescues the cat as the entire neighborhood applauds the token heroism.
Of course, a cat needs help getting out of a tree like Dean Potter needs help putting his foot in his mouth, so the story doesn't really make sense, does it?
Recently, my friends Sam and Jen and I were looking to sneak in one last pitch at Rifle before the arrival of rain. I drove us up to the Anti-Phil wall in " the Sentromes," a multi-beast with 264,598 miles and a flimsy promise that it will never die. Up ahead, a shadowy figure was running up the road. He heard the quiet purr of the Sentromes, and the psycho started sprinting right at me! He was waving his arms and it looked as if this man was wearing a women's rain jacket, eggshell colored, form flattering and way too small. What? How come?
Turns out it was our friend Derek. That doesn't explain the rain jacket, and there was no time to find out.
"You've gotta stop! You've gotta call the fire department!" Derek wheezed, out of breath.
"Jesus, Derek, what's wrong?" I asked.
"Some crazy redneck soloed up 30, 35 feet and is stuck on a wall by the Skull Cave!" His voice was sloppy and out of control, jumping octaves like Indian pop music. It expressed a hint of genuine worry mixed mostly with the evil pleasure of being The One to tell us.
"We've done everything we can to get him down, but he's stuck on total choss. There are no anchors, it's raining, it's getting dark and - "
"OK, OK. What can we do? Do you want a ride somewhere?"
"Well, yes. Yes, that would be nice."
Derek hopped into the back of the Sentromes, jabbering on about the situation all over again. We drove up canyon to find Elmer, the camp host whom we suspect hates climbers. Elmer was sitting in the hut and smoking fiendishly. Derek pleaded with him to call the fire department. It was obvious that Elmer wanted to deal with this as much as I did.
By this point, the true nature of the situation was beginning to sink in for Jen, Sam and Me. We looked at each other, conversing silently with our eyes as only good friends can do:
Jen: How the hell did we become a part of this?
Sam: This is serious bullshit.
Me: Is there any other kind?
We felt the tangible, anxious desire to see the situation firsthand. I envisioned a grotesque hick "dressed" in a wifey and wearing a NASCAR hat, sitting in a little rocky hole, crying his eyes out and yelling like crazy for Jesus. The speed at which Elmer, 400 pounds, was moving was killing me. Finally, he concluded his call to the fire department and we were off.
As always, reality failed expectations. This person was just a kid, 17 at most, in a baseball hat, jeans and a long-sleeved shirt. He stood awkwardly on a little perch, his feet propped on a tiny tree for support. Despite what Derek had said, he was only 15 feet off the ground. I immediately hated everyone there, and I didn't know why.
On the ground, a group of climbers and the Redneck's friends mingled, staring up at him silently for the most part. No one knew anything at all. I could not have swung a dead cat without hitting a gumby - suddenly I felt like I was in El Potrero Chico.
"Just what is this?" Sam demanded. He was right. There was no reason whatsoever for such fuss. If the kid had climbed up there, he logically could've climbed down. It didn't look hard - maybe 5.4 or so and only a whopping 15 feet of it. I suppose the rock was wet, but that's not the point. The Redneck Kid could've jumped off his perch, aiming for the furrow of trees and taking care to miss the jagged talus, and escaped with nothing more serious than a broken ankle or wrist. What was the big deal?
"What are you doing, man?" I asked. "Why don't you just climb down?"
"No! That's not acceptable!" One of the by-standers hurtled toward me, waving his arms like an ump calling someone safe. "The rock is loose, and now it's wet. It's too hard and too dangerous. Believe me, we've tried everything. Just wait!" he commanded. "The fire department will be here soon enough."
I was astonished to the point of being bored by such fretfulness from a group of people who supposedly rock climb. They tossed around archaic concepts of self-rescue and pulley systems that they had once read about in Freedom of the Hills, for here, like a gift from the god of gumbydom, was a person who was worse at rock climbing than they were.
The gumbies were so happy to have stumbled upon this unsuspecting dumbass, they cooked up this code-red like a can of soup. Never mind that the kid, like any self-respecting cat, would've been able to get down had they not been there to trap him in a box of fear. Of course, the gumbies will tell you otherwise - that he wouldn't have been able to get down - but I don't believe it. When self-interests are at stake, everyone is a liar. Trust me, I'm an editor.
The Redneck Kid started laughing. The whole thing was a joke to him. He started talking quietly about his true intentions of trying to steal the "clippy things," though I pretended not to be listening.
I fought back an increasingly evil desire to berate the Redneck Kid with every foul slander I could conjure. How had Sam, Jen and I become a part of this? We'd missed the last pitch of the day - for this?
"I have to get out of here," I said.
"Yeah, me too," said Sam.
We left, sorry to skip the finale, but biting our tongues had become painful. I drove out of the canyon quickly. Up on the right, the Redneck Kid's girlfriend was standing by her car, smoking a cigarette. I didn't see her, however, and the Sentromes hit a muddy puddle like it was a giant cymbal. Water and mud crashed accoustically everywhere, soaking the poor girl to her core.
By the time we had stopped laughing and feeling sorry, we passed the distinctive flutter of lights that will always instill me with fear and anxiety - a cop car, fire truck, ambulance and Colorado state park ranger were streaming up canyon.
"Dude, we have to turn around to see this," Sam said.
Do we? I wondered. I paused on the side of the road, unsure and uneasy. For some reason, I considered what Batso would do. I reached up into my shirt and touched my chest hair - either my mark of Cain or my cross to bear; its nature was still unclear. Batso would never miss a party like this, I realized. I hit the pedal, and the Sentrometer went wild, spinning us around 180 degrees and fast. Luckily, the Officials had stopped at the entrance, stymied by where to go next.
I pulled up to the front of the pack to speak to what I assumed was a human operating the cop car.
"Follow me," I said to the cop. "I know where to go."
"Sure, yep. Go'n," the human said.
There was no denying that we were now fully immersed in this most absurd mission. So what? Deep meaning can be found in the absurd Batso knew this from being a humanist, and I know this from being a climber. The realization struck me hard. This was my calling. My heart momentarily jumped into my throat and a shock of electricity ran through my nuts. I am Batso.
Yes! Of course! How could I not have seen it before? I fired some L-glutamine into my mouth and quickly put the car in gear. I looked in my rearview mirror, no longer afraid of anything at all. The fear and anxiety had dissipated at this incredible realization that I am the incarnate of climbing's most irreverent soul. They would need me. Oh yes, they would because I am Batso, and they are Not.
The acid-kaleidoscope of emergency lights was flashing in my rearview mirror and directly into my eyes, making them red and crazy looking. If I were going to be the anti-leader of this non-rescue, I would need flashy things too. In a nugatory gesture that I found demonically funny, I hit the hazard lights on the Sentromes to lead the parade.
"I am Batso!" I screamed, accelerating forward. Jen and Sam deserved to know the truth. We were in this together, and they should be ready for whatever danger driving with a wild El Cap hand-driller would bring.
"What are you talking about?" Jen said.
"Don't argue," I said. "I was in a hammock on El Cap way before people like you were climbing 5.13's. Ha ha!"
We reached the Skull Cave - it only took a minute. The Fighters jumped out of their trucks. Eight firefighters, two cops, three EMT workers and the park ranger ran amok. They shone their flashlights, loaded their guns and spoke to each other using some kind of strange monkey-language laden with numbers and acronyms. The only thing missing was a pack of dogs and a clown.
The fire crew had brought one 24-foot ladder, which they assumed was inadequate due to gumby disinformation. Apparently, in Gumbyland, 15 feet really means 30 feet. That makes sense on some level, doesn't it?
"He's only 15 feet off the ground!" I shouted. "Trust me, I'm Batso!"
"Will you stop saying that?" Jen said. I agreed that maybe it was time to lay off the sauce. There were cops around and I was out of my element, far from the high lonesome of El Cap's perfect stone and nowhere near my beloved red wine. Finally, someone listened to me and brought the perfectly adequate ladder into the Skull Cave so the Redneck Kid could walk down it.
"Hi Billy," the fire chief said to the Kid. Apparently, the Law knew him. "Stuck, eh?"
"Is this gonna cost a lot"? Billy said in his thick hillbilly accent.
"Oh, just a couple hundred bucks," said the chief, who sported a mean rat-tail that snaked out of his hard hat like a dead worm. "That won't be a problem, will it?" he said, laughing awfully. I walked over to the scene and started snapping photos.
"Hey, hey!" said Billy. "Whaddayoudoin?"
"Say cheese, Billy boy!" I wanted to say. But I didn't. I felt euphoric and in love with everyone - the gumbies, Elmer, the police and firefighters, and even Billy the Redneck Kid. They had made the climbing day special and stupid, and that, I think, is something that Warren Harding would have appreciated.
The EMT workers brought Billy down to the ambulance, where they stuck a steel catheter up his penis whi e he howled like a dog. Meanwhile, the police were writing up tickets for a few minor violations: a first-degree BAD (Being A Dumbass) as well as third-degree RRPP (Reckless Redneckin' in a Public Park). I demanded that the cops slap on a premeditated SCT (Stealing the Clippy Things), as I have had three draws stolen in the last month alone. Alas, a climber's needs are not a priority for Johnny Q. Law.
My friends and I left, surprised again by how consistently Darwin's theories are foiled by the modern machinations of humanity. A sudden wave of exhaustion washed over me. It is an incredible thing to realize your true identity and just how deeply rooted climbing is in the absurd.
Andrew Bisharat promises that he will never shave his chest hair as long as he lives.


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Nokia Lumia Updates - New High End, New Marketsby Brett Howse on 4/3/2014 10:00 AM EST
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- Microsoft
- Nokia
- Smartphones
- Mobile
- Lumia
- windows phone 8
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raghwendra123 - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkIt will be interesting what other manufacturers produce now that licensing is free for devices under 9 inches Reply
Arbie - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkSo, the new high end 930 has a 1080 screen for media and... no microSD. That means you get to transfer all your media via USB, and refresh it the same way, tying up the phone the whole time. Or resort to some chain of dongles, to go with the sleek case.
If this phone had microSD - like it's cheaper siblings - you could simply swap sets of media in and out, almost instantly, and can carry any amount and selection with you.
Sorry, I still think design choices like this are idiotic, not to mention arrogant. I *know* how I want to use my smartphone. No microSD = no sale. Reply
Lonyo - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkApart from Samsung and HTC with the new Max, no one really seems to offer MicroSD slots on their top end phones, keeping it mainly on their lower end phones. It is rather silly. Reply
Myrandex - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkThe Lumia 1520 is a top end phone and it contains MicroSD. And HTC's new One (M8) has MicroSD as well and is not a Max. Reply
spamcops - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkyou mean like Samsung S3, S4, NOTE II, NOTE III, HTC ONE M8, SONY Z1, Z2... Hm really no one offers sd cards :D Reply
themossie - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkDon't forget the pending LG G Pro 2, as top end as it gets plus MicroSD.
I think every top-end Android phablet has MicroSD now? LG, Samsung, HTC... Missing any high-end phablets? Reply
Myrandex - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkThey have options with MicroSD. Pick up a Lumia 1520 and get your MicroSD fix. I have the 1520 and would trade it in for the 930 though. This is due to an issue with SD card encryption and my company's exchange policy... Reply
hangfirew8 - Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - linkFabulous phone, just don't get it from AT&T unless you enjoy going without Data Sense. Reply
Thermalzeal - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkI've rarely transferred media via USB. with automatic upload to OneDrive and apps like Xbox Music that cloud sync intelligently I've traveled across the world and filled up my phone and only a few times used USB to get access to large videos I took. Once Microsoft slaps AT&T around and gets them to accept QI standard devices due to consumer demand, there will likely be a MicroSD capable version. The limited devices shown at Build showcase that Microsoft still has more devices in store, and likely will wait till after till the new iPhone is en route to position devices intelligently. I'm going to be waiting for the next Lumia 1030, as this device will be a US flagship product. Reply
barry spock - Sunday, April 06, 2014 - linkI'm a little tired of you dweebs complaining about "no SD". It immediately speaks to the fact that you're not happy with the samsung phones you're all so fanatical about. It also tells me you spend too much time staring into your little video screen. It also tells me that fundamentally you're stuck in a timewarp where 'normal' is (take out disk, put in disk). That's not how we do things in the future. The future is now. Reply
drwhoglius - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkIf I'm not mistaken, the 630/635 are the first Windows Phones not running on Qualcomm Krait cores Reply
cmikeh2 - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkIn a while yes but the earliest devices were all running Scorpion cores. These should be the first WP8 phones with non-Krait based CPU though. Reply
Rocket321 - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkThe 930 looks nice, but I wish it was price competitive with the Nexus 5 at $399.
The 630 looses to the Moto G in both display and pricing, while the 635 does bring LTE to the table which makes it interesting. Reply
Braumin - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkYes but the Moto G doesn't have SD support, which is pretty important when the onboard storage is so low like on these phones. At least the Moto G can have optional 16 GB of storage but that's really not much. Reply
doubledeej - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkThe typical street price of an unlocked Moto G is $199, higher than the MSRP of the 630 or 635. Locked Moto Gs are cheaper, but the 630/635 will be too.
The 630/635 is Nokia's replacement for the 520/521/525. Today in the US the 520 and 521 (locked to AT&T or T-Mobile) are about $50-$65 street price. I'd guess the 635 won't be a lot more than that. Reply
mczak - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkThe problem with the 630 being successor of 520 is that it looks quite overpriced to me, since the 520 was 99$ MSRP and the 630 is 159$. And what exactly justifies the higher price? You get all the same low storage, seemingly even same sensors (missing compass among others, though it's possible the specs are incomplete), camera (but no front camera) etc. You do get a larger screen (with nearly the same resolution) at the cost of size and weight. The SoC isn't really any faster neither, they even have the same gpu (adreno 305), the old one had two Krait cpu cores, the new one has 4 Cortex-A7 (per core they should actually be roughly equally fast, Krait is faster per clock but the new chip has 20% higher clock) - sure that's two cores more but two cores at higher frequency (which btw you can also get in the form of a Snapdragon 400) would have been much more useful.
Now don't get me wrong the value still doesn't look too bad with the 630 compared to competition (in terms of hw), but it can't match the 520 in that area.
The only thing this really seems to offer over the 520 (well apart from the larger screen which you might or might not like due to increased size/weight) is a larger battery, with increased standby time. That's definitely a welcome update, but imho doesn't justify a 60% price increase. Reply
Braumin - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkThe $99 520 is one locked to a carrier, so it does have some subsidies, or else it's a sale price.
Either way, MSRP and what the street price will be are not necessarily the same thing. Reply
lmcd - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkOne can buy an unlocked international 520 for $130 online pretty consistently. Reply
mczak - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkOh I think you are right, I thought the 520 really had a much cheaper MSRP. So if it sells for the same price in the end (the 520 you could get with very good deals with prepaid cards for instance everywhere, and the unlocked version was pretty cheap too) the 630 should be ok too. Though I'd still wish they'd have added a little something (say, 1GB of memory, or a compass, or a front facing camera, or whatever), mostly the same for the same price one year later still isn't too great. Reply
MrSpadge - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkSnapdragon 800 - isn't this massively more powerful than the previous offerings? It would be really interesting to see the 1020 updated to a newer SoC as well. Reply
notposting - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkThe 1520 and Icon (the 930 is basically the international variant of the Icon aka 929) both had it as well. Reply
notposting - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkThey are all the first 1080 models as well. Would be nice to an updated 1020 that could improve shot to shot time for sure. Reply
plonk420 - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linki just want the Nokia X/X+/XL on a Verizon MVNO :/ (because Android) Reply
Myrandex - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkForget CDMA and MVNOs. GSM is where its at and then they are compatible easily. Reply
plonk420 - Sunday, April 06, 2014 - linknot in coverage where i live. and where i've traveled in the past. Reply
beesbees - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - linkFrom being an Android owner of plenty of devices I have to say the windows phone is really good. It's different and very fluent and feels good. I paid $60 for the Nokia 521 and a cheap $3 black silky smooth case. people ask me what kind of phone it is and they think it looks like a $500+ phone. I hate Windows 8 but in a phone it's really nice! Reply
MikhailT - Thursday, April 03, 2014 - link> "This phone doesn't look like it will be launched in the USA anytime soon, since Verizon has an exclusive arrangement with Nokia for the rebranded Icon."
Why? That's just silly. Nokia is just shooting itself in the foot. I like this model but I'm not jumping to Verizon for this. I'd just stick with the iPhone for now. Reply
theNiZer - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkThank you Brett Howse for at least making sure that Windows Phone is covered in some way here at Anandtech. Why no live coverage on Anandtech of the MS event? Reply
Laxaa - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkThe 930 looks nice enough, but I want phone manufacturers to start pushing internal storage to 64 GB and beyond(I know Apple does it, at a rather steep price)
I think I'll wait until after WWDC and Google I/O before deciding on a my next smartphone. If nothing interesting comes up software wise, I think I'll just get the 930 for the camera performance and excellent hardware design(and I know that my girlfriend will replace her iPhone 4S with a iPhone 6 anyway) Reply
blzd - Saturday, April 05, 2014 - linkThese phones are already over priced. 64GB storage when no other one phone is bothering to do it would mean an even higher price and even less competitive.
This might be the first Windows phones to ALMOST have bleeding edge hardware that Androids have enjoyed for a few years now. Reply
Sushisamurai - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkYeah, Nokia seriously needs an updated SOC for the 1020 - I'd pick it up then. I never appreciated how the 1020 and 808 always lagged behind in terms of SOC.
They should also bring back USB OTG and more internal storage options (32-64 GB internal is ideal now). If they only had a high end and more carrier options. I'd buy a phone outright just for 1020's camera... *sighs* Reply
perseid - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkDoes anyone know what the successor to the Lumia 1520 is? Reply
Myrandex - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkI think the 1520 will be around for quite some time. The internals pretty much match the 930 anyways. Reply
HardwareDufus - Friday, April 04, 2014 - linkTotally bummed the high end 930 didn't get DSDA capability. (It's supported in the SOC).
Guess we will wait for the 1520 replacement to give us all the goodies of 930, 6" screen, DSDA and keep the microSD. Reply
kyuu - Sunday, April 06, 2014 - linkThe heck is DSDA? Reply
HardwareDufus - Sunday, April 06, 2014 - linkDualSimDualActive. It allows your Phone to have two different numbers/carriers at the same time.
3 useful scenarios:
1. People who live near borders and have a plan for each country (me)
2. People who like to have the same phone for Business and Personal Use.
3. Multiple service plans (apparently this is popular in the Far East??)
Most people have no appreciation for this feature... but when you've lived/worked across borders for 8+ years like me... you get tired of having two fones, or always doing the SIM Chip Swap. I was in Upstate NY last week and literally dropped my Mexican TelCel SIM chip after I pulled it out to stick in my AT&T chip. I just returned home, so tomorrow I have to visit the TelCel store to get a new one for my existing contract/phonenumber. Reply
whatsa - Monday, April 07, 2014 - linkNot quite right on the 930 to Icon
32 gig to 16 gig
Icon doesn't have wireless charging
So it anything the 930 is the more iconic icon? Reply
Brakken - Friday, May 30, 2014 - linkSeeing 8.1 on that 930 actually made me want to switch! I'm really impressed with how MS is developing a truely unique and creative and different smartphone! I guess they are showing Google how to do it right. I mean, $10b loss with Motorola has gotta hurt! I can't wait until MS gets all their apps up and running... but when?! Reply

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HP EliteBook 2170p Ultraportable Review: Business Class, But Business Savvy?by Dustin Sklavos on 11/30/2012 12:00 PM EST
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- Systems
- EliteBook
- Ivy Bridge
- Laptops
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jabber - Friday, November 30, 2012 - link....lemon. Reply
cbrownx88 - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkAgreed. Reply
secretmanofagent - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkI agree, call it for what it is. It sucks on performance, efficiency, and a horrible horrible display (which HP usually screws up on). I'm stuck with a different horrible EliteBook for work, and I want to set the thing on fire half the time. Reply
fic2 - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkI would never spend $1k on a laptop with a 1366x768 display. Reply
Mumrik - Saturday, December 01, 2012 - linkSeconded.
I feel so out of contact with whatever market it is that doesn't care about resolution... Reply
BellaLohan - Sunday, December 02, 2012 - linkwhat Karen implied I'm shocked that a mom able to make $8024 in four weeks on the network. (Click on menu Home more information)
http://goo.gl/EeD3j Reply
retrospooty - Monday, December 03, 2012 - link"I would never spend $1k on a laptop with a 1366x768 display."
I wouldnt spend $100 with a display of that res. Seriously HP 1366x768 must die! Reply
ArteTetra - Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - linkA resolution of 1366x768 is fine on a 11.6 inch display.
A resolution of 1366x768 is fine on a 11.6 inch display.
A resolution of 1366x768 is fine on a 11.6 inch display. Reply
Midwayman - Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - linkNope. 768px tall makes it like view webpages through a tank-slit.. 16:9 is a terrible aspect ratio made worse by low resolution. The 900px tall 16:9 screens are about the lowest that are really useful.
Besides you can get a tablet with 1080p or better for $400 these days. 1366x768 is inexcusable on a machine that cost that much anymore. Reply
jabber - Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - linkYeah 1440x900 should be the barest minimum on any laptop under 15" today. Reply
DiscoWade - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkIt does have one thing going for it: no Windows 8. (Before you start: My hatred for Windows 8 comes from actually using Windows 8.) Reply
sigmatau - Saturday, December 01, 2012 - linkSo you don't know how to use Windows 8? Got it. Reply
greenbackz - Sunday, December 02, 2012 - linklol.
I hated a little bit on win8 when I didn't know how to do much. but not that I've learnt a few tricks here n there.. I'm liking it a lot more than previous windows OS' and definitely much better than OSX. Reply
tayb - Monday, December 03, 2012 - linkYou meant to say that your hatred for Windows 8 comes from your inability to learn how to use Windows 8. Reply
ShieTar - Monday, December 03, 2012 - linkGenerally speaking, any OS that still needs to be learned is a horrible failure these days. Time spent using the OS instead of your software is already wasted time, but time spent learning how to even use the OS is just inacceptable. GUIs were kind of invented to reduce the need for OS manuals, not as a pretty way of hiding functionality away. Reply
afkrotch - Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - linkThe problem is when you start adding in more and more functionality. There is no need to constantly display these things in front of your face. So they created a search function. Then they made the search function faster and faster. Win 8, takes no time to search. Reply
ajp_anton - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkI was so hoping this would be the resolution, despite the odd numbers, or even a small typo of the resolution...
Also I doubt this computer is 265mm thick =). Reply
SodaAnt - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkHere's the thing about business laptops. I can accept that some of them are thicker, I have a dell precision m4600, and I accept that its think because it has very good internals, cooling, battery, and upgradability. However, this laptop seems to have none of those things, except maybe good cooling, which isn't really that needed with a ULV chip.
Finally, I don't get why they put the i7 in there. To me, it would make much more sense to even put a 512GB SSD in there, which would lead to a much faster laptop overall. Reply
Voldenuit - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkWhat's preventing the use of a mSATA SSD in the WWAN slot? Is it just that the mounting screw is for half-length cards, or is the slot incompatible with SSDs? Reply
arthur449 - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkHP normally employs a whitelist on their UEFI/BIOS for mSATA/mPCIe slots, which means that even if you found an mSATA SSD that fit in the tiny space, it wouldn't work because the UEFI BIOS wasn't explicitly told to allow that particular device.
There are ways around that, but it's a stressful process potentially ending in either a bricked laptop, one with curious intermittent problems, or one that works exactly like it should've in the first place. Reply
ACSK - Saturday, December 01, 2012 - linkYup - same thing for wireless cards. Reply
Penti - Saturday, December 01, 2012 - linkmSATA uses SATA so it should accept everything it does accept on any other SATA-port shouldn't it? Reply
Penti - Saturday, December 01, 2012 - linkI.e. whats really preventing any one is that the WWAN slot isn't an mSATA slot and has no SATA-connection at all. You have to get by using a 2.5" SSD. Reply
SunLord - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkWhats the black circle thing in between the g, h, and b keys? Reply
Voldenuit - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkThat's the nub mouse (also known as a Trackpoint, although that term is technicalluy trademarked by IBM/lenovo).
When done well (like on thinkpads), it's one of the best pointing devices on a laptop. When done poorly (dell latitudes, hp, some toshibas, a few vaios), it can be horribly infuriating. Reply
bji - Monday, December 03, 2012 - linkEven on thinkpads they are annoying. It's a legacy pointing device sitting in the middle of the keyboard looking ugly and tripping your fingers. The world has moved on to multi-touch pads, and they are much, much, MUCH better than the nubs of yesterday. Reply
Tchamber - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkThat should be a mouse joy stick, we don't see this much at all these days, but once you get used to it it's very efficient. Reply
Subyman - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkWow, $2000+ for no SSD and 4GB of ram? I've heard of the Apple tax, but never the HP tax. Reply
Voldenuit - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkThis is known as the Autonomy Accounting writeoff tax.
Olympus wrote off $2Bn for accounting fraud, and has been charging customers up to $100 for lens hoods, so maybe hp needs to inflate their margins too? Reply
r3loaded - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkMy steps for reaching the comments were as follows:
1) Click on article in Google Reader because it had "EliteBook" in the title.
2) Jump to the Display section of the review, scan the first paragraph and glance at the graphs.
3) Go straight to the comments to describe the facepalm I'm currently doing while typing this comment out. Reply
jonjonjonj - Friday, November 30, 2012 - link"Insert" (destroyer of worlds)
i pop the insert key off of every keyboard i have ever owned and stick some folded up paper under it and pop it back on. no more word destroying for me! i also love how you slap the word business class on something and charge more for it. no wonder companies love serving enterprises. Reply
arthur449 - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkThanks for the laugh.
There's nothing like typing a few sentences while glancing at documentation to the side and realizing that Insert has been happily gobbling up your words.
This seems like a lot to pay for a laptop with good cooling. Reply
kenyee - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkAn HP Elite used to mean a nice high-res IPS screen, 4 memory slots, and a fast graphics chip :-P
This is like a jewelry laptop...pretty to look at (not even that pretty w/o a hires screen) but not useful for regular work :-) Reply
policeman0077 - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkfit a 1600*900 panel in it.... Reply
Penti - Friday, November 30, 2012 - linkMaybe it's not that bad, it's an ultraportable with two damn SO-DIMM's! In a small formfactor, that's pretty sweet in of it self. I don't like the trend with like one soldered channel plus one DIMM. Ultrabooks aren't very good here.
Costs a lot customized though. Good to see business/corporate geared things though. You can even have it (with Core i5-3427U at least) vPro enabled, and it has DisplayPort, docking ports etc. I guess you could always buy if using it as a personal computer for yourself at about 1000 USD and put in another RAM-stick and change out the HDD to an SSD and get a decent machine. How would this with 8GB SO-DIMM, 250GB SSD for 1300 compete against the ultrbooks? Reply
XnoX - Saturday, December 01, 2012 - linkAlso, what the review can't tell you is the actual price an enterprise would pay for these (usually around 60% of listed price). Reply
Penti - Saturday, December 01, 2012 - linkOf course and it's about 1000 USD preconfigured with a 48Wh battery where this review model is only using a 30Wh battery (i.e. smaller than a Surface RT). Custom config for an large enterprise would obviously come down too. Simply because they want to win as a supplier. You already have a 25% rebate at HP to begin with with customized machines, so for an large corp the price isn't ridiculous and is less than 2000 with SSD, 8GB RAM and i7 cpu. A Dell or some other brand might be a better fit for many though. Reply
PR0927 - Saturday, December 01, 2012 - linkI'm confused why this article doesn't say what's so obvious - that this laptop is an utter PoS and isn't worth the cost, by any means.
Frankly the conclusion is WAY too kind.
There is literally not a single good thing about this laptop compared to its competition. Price, screen, form factor, specs, battery life - you name it, it sucks. Hard. Reply
ACSK - Saturday, December 01, 2012 - linkI deal with 100-1000s of notebooks on a monthly basis, and by far and away HP has the highest fail rate (has been that way since maybe 06 or 07?). I wouldn't buy this if it was netbook priced. Dell's notebook reliability is actually really good (do seem to have some power / battery issues on current models), and Lenovo's is also fairly good. But for ultra-compact notebooks, I'd recommend people look at Panasonic's J10. Fujitsu's T580 or Q702 are also pretty decent - I haven't had personal experience with them, but I've never seen high fail-rates with Fujitsu's in the past or currently. Reply
Beenthere - Sunday, December 02, 2012 - linkIn the opening this line makes no sense at all:
"...The essential gap that's materialized has been between the fast decaying netbook market (its death spurred on by Intel's Atom coupled with the high price of Brazos), ..."
When did Brazos become expensive? They are dirt cheap and sell by the MILLIONS as a result.
Secondly why would ANYONE buy this review PC when they could have a Trinity 17w CPU powered 11" that would embarrass this Intel powered mini and it would cost hundreds less? The only people who would buy these types of over-priced, under performing laptops are people too lazy to educate themselves.
There certainly is a market niche for 11" minis but they will be AMD powered if people do anything with them other than word processing. Reply
Dustin Sklavos - Sunday, December 02, 2012 - linkBrazos netbooks go for a minimum of $400-$450. Brazos should be hitting the same market Atom did, but it's not, and it's encroaching on space occupied by systems with faster Intel chips. Reply
Penti - Monday, December 03, 2012 - linkI agree that they can't compete against the price point of Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge based Intel chips. Remember those are sub 100 USD chips already. Or barely above 100 USD for low-end Ivy.
Hondo, Jaguar core based Kabini or Samara will probably find it's way into some tablets and hybrid tablets, as it's not hard to compete against the price point of those devices though.
AMD's problem is largely that there just isn't any good AMD builds from the OEM's too. For the business segment like this product is geared to there just isn't anything to compete with Intel's full blown vPro/iAMT management solution.
On AMD there isn't even anything to compete with the Core i5 based Acer Aspire V5-171-6422 for 520 USD when it comes to 11.6" notebook. The 17W Trinity is also pretty weak overall. For the same money as they have appeared to be in the market you get Core i5, Ivy based stuff. Even if an AMD solution could hit the 450 mark Core i3's or Pentium/Celeron Intel stuff will be down to about 400.
You end up having something like Samsung NP535U3C compete against a Intel based NP530U3C and the price point between them aren't just gonna matter.
The 300 USD netbook market will just not exist. Except for 300 USD specially rebated notebooks.
AMD needs to get new chips out to compete in this space, as is they also is beaten by last gen Intel chips in price/performance. They obviously need to design a chip that performs well in notebooks and not designed for 4P servers with almost 20MB cache per chip. You can add performance enhancing stuff with L3 cache or whatever but the base performance with minimal amount of cache needs to be good first, it's a general computing processor after all. Reply
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john12345p - Monday, October 14, 2013 - linkYou also reviewed HP folio 9470m. Among these two HP 2170p and HP Folio 9470m, which one is ultimately the better one? These are the only two that the IT at work is offering, so need to choose one among the two. Which among these two is better? Which one is ultimately more preferable? Which one ultimately sucks less? :-) Reply
HP - Friday, June 27, 2014 - linkI'm not a fan of the new Elitebook series. The previous Elitebook series was better especially in terms of durability and looks -- 6930p, 2540p for reference. The 21/25xx appear over-cooked. The readily accessible internals through the base turns me off slightly. Why should anyone need to get to the internals that quickly? There's not much more to do there once you've done the memory or disk upgrade, which will probably only be one or two times in the usage lifespan of the machine.
The machine does indeed feel bulky, rather wide I should say because of the full blown, wide keyboard. Glad I wasn't the only one having misgivings about the new Elitebook series. Reply


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I am regularly sweeping and wet mopping my 400 sf garage studio. I am aware that a lot of clay dust gets airborne. Can anyone recommend a good shop vac with HEPA filter to use instead of sweeping?
wet mopping is the best way to clean the studio in terms of health.... A really good HEPA vac would likely work, you're looking at around 500.00 for the vac itself, and sometimes as much as 300.00 for replacement filters... Also I would suspect that with the quantity of dust you will be moving through the vac you'll go through filters like nobody's business... Any non hepa vac (like those irobots) will just throw dust back into the air--bad bad bad. wet mop, rinse, lather, repeat.
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The way I think is best to vacuum, is to have the vacuum unit outside, for my shop and studio I us a shop vac with a 50 foot hose and commercial style wand. I put the vacuum outside or just in the doorway with the exhaust pointing out, no issues with dust at all, except when emptying the vacuum, I wear a good respirator, and empty the vac outside.
For about $200. you can have the complete system, attached is a picture of my system, a link to WalVac, which is where I got my hose and wand and a link to ebay to show some hose availability, I did have to make an adapter for the hose to the vacuum, also pictured.
For a 50' hose it should be a 1-1/2" ID hose, and commercial wand, for a 30' hose, 1-1/4" ID and household wand will work. The paper filter that my vacuum came with works quite well, and has lasted a long time.
The more powerful the vacuum the better for these long hoses.
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