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On Friday morning, MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace on a phone interview with presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump asked if he would consider choosing Bernie Sanders as his running mate for the November election. "Would you take a few minutes to talk to him and consider him as your running mate?" she asked on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." Trump's response may surprise you:
"Wow that's a great question. The one thing that Bernie Sanders and I have in common –and I do have much bigger crowds than him– I actually do, Joe and Mika know that. He is second, I will say that. But I will say this: We have one thing very strongly in common. We know that the U.S. is being taken advantage of horribly on trade deals. The difference between Bernie and myself is, I know how to make those deals fantastic and he has no idea."
Wallace egged on: "But as your number two he could watch and learn from you?"
"He's got a lot of other things in the bag, I will tell you Nicolle and I mean this 100%. You saw that in many of the primaries. If Bernie loses –which he will because the primary is rigged– If Bernie loses to Hillary he should run as an independent. Bernie should definitely run as an independent. [If he doesn't], big percentages of the Bernie people are going to vote for Trump," Trump said.
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The Trial of River Song
by MuseDePandora
Disclaimer: Doctor Who belongs to various persons and corporations that are not me or associated with me. This piece of fanfiction is written with the admiration and respect for the original work. I claim no ownership of Doctor Who's creations. No profit is made from this material, now or in the future.
Rating: K - T
Warnings: maybe for character death, non-explicit violence, darker moral themes, extreme timey-wimeyness. Also, old!Who canon alongside new!Who. Don't need to know old!Who.
Summary: We know she's guilty, but of what?
A/N: There was a challenge. I'll list it at the end of this chapter so that there are no spoilers while you read this piece.
Thanks to Armity for beta-read.
Case Identification: 537 SPSC 1102 [123 S.. 953; 154 H. 2d 770]
Classification: TOP TIME SECRET
Ruling Judges:
Patriarch Thaddeus, Our Church of Supreme Authority
Servant Dmer Kotte-Ta, The Shadow Proclamation
Overseer Gamma, The Time Agency
Doctor Dorris Holaday, The Great Guild
Defendant: Doctor River Song
-AKA: Bishop Joan, Servant Wu Zetian, Agent 2606...
-see attached document: Other Possible Identities of River Song
3 Counts: Blasphemy in the First Degree
1 Count: Paradox in the Third Degree
4 Counts: Willful Perversion of Time
1 Count: Willful Destruction of History
2 Counts: Willful Anachronism
10 Counts: Manslaughter
32 counts: Accessory to Murder
1 Count: Accomplice to a Known Enemy of the State
1 Count: Murder in the First Degree
Entered into Evidence:
Testimonial from: Father Cody Rames
Interviewer: Servant Kai
Witness: Agent 2401
Time Stamp: 99-7-5108/12.32.09
Servant Kai: Place your hand on the verifier. Understand that if you remove your hand at any point during this interview, you may be held in contempt of court. Do you understand?
Father Cody Rames: Yes, sir.
SK: Please, state your full name and rank.
FCR: I am Father Cody Rames of the Fifth Arm of Our Church of Supreme Authority, Historical Defense Division.
Agent 2401: Verified.
SK: Do you know Doctor River Song, Father?
FCR: Yes, sir. Though I wish to God, I didn't.
Agent 2401: Verified.
SK: How do you know River Song?
FCR: I was assigned to one of her digs, sir. I mean, my unit was, sir. We were to make sure the site remained secure at all times. Whatever was being dug up was supposed to be real important to the empire, but it involved destroying a huge part of a colony city and, well, you know how the colonies are, sir. We needed to make sure to keep all the guild members safe so that they could do their jobs. Especially Doctor Melian and Doctor Song, since they were in charge of it all.
SK: Were you able to keep the site secure?
FCR: Completely, sir. My bishop was one of the best, may God rest his soul.
SK: Then what happened to Doctor Melian and the rest of the guild members on his team?
FCR: River Song happened, sir.
SK: Please, explain that further.
FCR: Well, you see, everything was fine in the beginning. In fact, it was kind of boring. Me and the rest of the priests were getting a bit antsy even. The colonists weren't too much trouble for us, the Bishop was too good for them. We cut off any trouble before it even happened, so there really wasn't much for us to do but just look at them playing with rocks. They weren't even blowing stuff up anymore. They were just uncovering old pots and computers. They wouldn't even let us get close enough to look. You know how guild members are, they think priests are all just throwbacks with a gun. Well, Doctor Song was better about that than Doctor Melian. Actually, most of us thought she was pretty nice. If she wasn't too busy and we had a question, she'd usually answer and not like we were idiots, neither. Oh, but I guess you didn't need me to tell you all that, did you? You just want to know about when that changed, right?
SK: Yes, please.
FCR: Well, it started like this, sir. Doctor Melian was all excited one night because of a big discovery. All the guild members were excited. They were breaking out some Earth wine and everything. It was a real big deal, even we could see that. The Bishop explained to us that they had gotten to the center of the crypt. They'd found a big stone box there. Apparently, that's what they had been looking for all along. I told Father Kenneth that I thought it was silly that we all had been waiting so long for a big stone box. The Bishop heard me, of course. It was hard to get anything by the Bishop. We use to joke that it'd take a genuine miracle to surprise the Bishop, but that's just talk. Anyways, as he explained it, there was something in the box, some old technology, a weapon left over from the greatest war ever fought. I asked what it was? And the Bishop says, "We don't know yet. We'll have to wait and see." And I asked what he thought it was and he says, "I don't dare guess, Father. I just hope we don't let the devil out." And then we all laughed. It was just a joke then. But sometimes, I think back on it and I wonder if he'd had a vision. I think he must've.
(32 seconds of silence)
SK: Please, continue.
FCR: Right. After that, there was this man.
SK: Can you describe him?
FCR: It's hard. He was different. He wore strange clothes. He walked like he owned the place. He just suddenly appeared the morning after the discovery. He looked mostly human, though there was something about his eyes.
(10 seconds of silence)
SK: Can you describe it?
FCR: I mean no offense, sirs, but he reminded me of a Time Agent.
Agent 2401: How?
FCR: Well, I've worked with agents before, sir. And there's always something a little bit . . . off about them. I think it's because of how they see time. Even River Song and she told us she's only worked with the Time Agency but was never an agent. She never said as much but we all just kind of took it for granted that she must have traveled in time too. There's just something different about people like that. Nothing seems to touch them anymore. It's weird. I don't know how to describe it.
SK: That's all right. Can you tell us more about this man?
FCR: I can try. He was tall, about my height. He had dark hair, dark eyes. His eyes . . . I tried not look him in the eye as much as possible. He scared me, sir. Which was weird because he was real nice. He smiled a lot. He told lots of jokes. He didn't seem to think he was better than us like most of the guild members, though he was obviously smarter than all of them. Like, one time, he overheard Doctor Melian complaining that he couldn't decipher this one ancient computer system. This man took my comm unit, walked over to the computer, and had it working within a minute. He laughed about how easy it was. Doctor Melian looked mad. Can't blame him. The man was completely taking over the place. Everyone was even taking his orders though none of us knew who he was.
SK: How did River Song interact with this man?
FCR: Oh, she loved him! She laughed with him. She even made him laugh, and not in the laughing-at-you way. Lots of times, when he laughed, it seemed like it was at something we couldn't understand. But River Song seemed to understand and then sometimes, she could make him laugh almost like a regular person. It seemed like he liked her, too. It was almost impossible to find them apart. My unit used to joke. "There goes the newlyweds," we used to say. I guess that's why so many of us were willing to just accept him at first. We barely knew anything about River Song but we knew she was important, we knew she had connections. We knew even less about this man but he was connected to River Song so that didn't seem as weird as it might otherwise. We just assumed he was a Top Time Secret.
SK: In your initial statement, you say that you overheard River Song call him by a name.
FCR: Well,it wasn't really a name, sir. It was more of a title. Actually, most of us just thought it was a nickname, like someone would give to their partner, sir. We didn't take it seriously. We thought they were joking, but by the time we realized they were serious, it was too late.
Agent 2401: What did River Song call him?
FCR: The Master, sir.
Agent 2401: Verified.
A/N 2: It started out as a joke. It then became a challenge: the Doctor finds his ex-husband and future wife working together. The Doctor, The Master, and River Song.
If you enjoyed the piece, or if you didn't, please take the time to leave me a review. No matter how short, I really appreciate the feedback. Thanks.


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Gene Yang (in reply to my questioning how "anything major could happen to the series' ships within a week"): But let me say this: lots of stuff can happen in a week. Lots of stuff can happen in a day. Movements and tensions can build over the course of months or years or decades, only to come to a head in a week or a day or even a moment.
Two elements of life's freedom are counterpoised to one another in the epic narrative: the first being based on the continuity of the organic process of life itself, which frees life taken by itself from the individual's circumstances, and the second being the individual's freedom from the necessity of static perpetuation of the circumstances that they find themselves in. Within such a narrative, the good\ill effects of the latter primarily serve to consolidate the good\ill effects of the former relative to the individual actors. (If the former instead primarily serves to consolidate the goodness or illness of the latter for the individual actors, it would instead be a lyrical narrative, because of its centering on the subjective psychological circumstances of an individual rather than the wider scope of life.)
The structure in which the events of an epic narrative take place is between the individual's ties to the family and the state. The latter "universal" social tie (universal, at least, for the members of the culture creating the epic) was presumed to be the necessary basis for life to continued and thus defined the first freedom of life. On that basis, it took precedence over the former, particular as it was to the individual epic hero and which therefore defined the second freedom of life in the classical (Greecian) epic. The event-structure of the modern novel style of writing (the "Romantic/bourgeoisie epic") until recently replaced this original structure of the epic with the counterposition between the individual's own tie to their own self-actualization in the modern world with the family & state taken as a basic unity (pessimistically taken as having been resolved as they ever would be in the former epics), with the latter being relegated to the position of the family in the epic and the former taking precedence over it. More recently, this itself seems to be giving way before what ought to be called the postmodern novelistic epic style of writing (of which The Lord of the Rings is the most famous example), in which the individual's right to their own self-determination in the world is counterpoised to familial actualization alongside the individualistic state. The latter, essentially the universal redefining of current cultural values concerning the family & the state for the preservation of the former in a world composed of nations centered around individualistic rights, is taken as a universal social tie upon the basis of which humanity must continue, and therefore replaces individual self-actualization as the definer of the first freedom of life in the postmodern novelistic epic. In this style of writing, the novel-epic hero is one in whom the synchronizing of the state and the family's interests are divested, as the audience's interest in their own right to self-determination now is beginning to hinge upon its relation to such dynamic synchronization over time in their own lives.
Human life is of course engendered in two basic forms, male and female. (Even in the case of transsexuals, there seems to be a predisposition toward one or the other; it just does not necessarily sync up with the bodily attributes upon which the doctor decided most reflective of the individual's inner mindset.) Mankind's existence clings to that of womankind's, existing as it does now to preserve womankind from the plight of their mutual circumstances. Womankind's existence is likewise anchored in the world by mankind's, existing as it does now as the motivator by which humankind (both male and female) moves past the bleakness of their circumstances in order to alter them. As far as I can tell, both evoluntionary research and the poetry of Genesis affirm this understanding of the matter, as does my practical experience with the subject; even in the case of voluntary celibacy, this would remain true, though it would extend to mankind/womankind as a whole (typically as the manner in which they percieve a single source of life to which they ultimately cling), rather than specific individuals.
In the classical (Greecian) epic style of writing, family (which can only come about through women) was taken as the motivating background for the epic hero's endeavours, which they typically sought to preserve through the promotion of the state (which theoretically could subsist of through a community solely made of males for the extent of their lives). In the modern (Romantic/ bourgeoisie) novel style of writing, this dynamic was relegated to a side-show, as the combinded (though still somewhat contrary) motivators of the individual hero which sought the preservation of their value to themselves through their own self-actualization in a forbidding world. Within such a dynamic, the classical counterposition of each gender and their traditional sphere of influence is neutralized arbitrarily without any true reconciliation, something which the Enlightenment has become infamous for. In the postmodern novelisitic epic style of writing, the individual's right to their own self-actualization becomes the motivator which they try to synchronize the state and the family in order to preserve, and from this comes the active reconcilation of the genders and their traditional spheres of influence – which of course allows for greater freedom of cross-overs from each sphere by individual males and females, with the added benefit of being on the main continuous with the past & its benefits (only free to a greater degree). From this continuing dialouge with the past, I believe, the general conception will pass into the background of the world's thought that the individualist state's continued existence hinges upon honoring above all else the family's ability to use the state as its anchoring point in the world, including its own "absolute right" to preserve the family as an entity lesser than itself (rather than as an entity to whose existence it must cling for any hope of survival in the face of anarchy).
In all three types of writing, that which is promoted for the preservation of the motivator takes precedence over the motivator itself, and in that way is the harbringer of the events which prevent the stagnation of life and potential ills to the motivator which may come of that. As in the postmodern epic-novel style of writing the active reconciliation of cultural values regarding the state and the family (and thus the gender's two traditional spheres of influence) is the intended goal, if the heroes of such an epic remain (heterosexual) males women will have a two-fold function in the plot's developments: as a temptation to further drift into stagnation when he has already veered from his purpose, but as one who voluntarily provides otherwise inaccessible help when he is in active pursuit of his high goal (the shift in her nature being reflective of how he has altered the circumstances surrounding her life by his course of action). This must not be mistaken as romantic writing (which deals with the inward psychological aspects of the character), even if it nears the border of said realm of fiction; the relationships of such characters will tend to be subservient to the epic-making tendencies of the hero's quest, their continuation based upon how well their unity/disunity serve to preserve the continuity of life itself (insofar as that is defined by the epic in question).
In "Legend of Aang", Katara played such a role for Aang, as a temptation to fail to seek enlightenment and the high ideal of his people ("The Guru"), but also as the one through whom his high ideals are grounded in compassion towards the concrete situations of others. Similarly, Mai was a temptation for Zuko to fail to seek the honor of his nation (portrayed throughout the first half of Book 3: Fire), but also the one who helped preserve him from a reckless pursuit of self-affirmation (an excessive grasping onto "honor", "The Boiling Rock Part 2"). For these reasons, in all likelihood Katara and Mai will play some role in de-polarizing the conflict between their boyfriends in The Promise (Katara because of her concern for breaking apart families, Mai when she finally learns of "the promise" and thus of the heedlessness of Zuko's action in the context of the given circumstances), a conflict which came from a too high(rather than too low) focus on and consideration of how they might affect life by an unbending attachment to what each side considers "good".
Does Suki play a similar role for her boyfriend, Sokka? She has more than once been an inadvertent temptation for him to leave behind his duties as a warrior ("The Day of Black Sun, Part 2 – The Eclipse"), but has also been the one who helps him resolve more personal concerns when excessive attachment to a leadership ideal would have pushed him to do otherwise ("The Boiling Rock, Part 1). Sokka's role in The Promise seems to be that of an attempted leader trying to mediate the domestic dispute so that tensions do not break out unduly, and in such a way that the Fire Nation does not grab any advantages for itself and away from the Earth Kingdom in the process (it obviously being the main perpetuator of The One Hundred Year War). Suki's role seems to be that of a peace-keeper and go-between for the Earth Kingdom and Fire Nation, more concerned that no warmongering imperialist tendencies emerge from either side (Kyoshi Island having little to do with mainland Earth Kingdom affairs until Avatar Aang returned) than to be biased to either's defense should tensions break out. Thus, she could easily become somewhat against Sokka's chosen path of leadership should Aang need backup in the carrying out of "the promise" in terms of arms and not just feelings of sympathy, a position which would clearly be anti-Fire Nation if Aang as the Avatar had to act preemptively per his promise despite no clear imperialist attempts being involved – which would seem to be the cut-off point for Suki in terms of Zuko "becoming like his father", as her decision to protect Zuko per Mai's request after Zuko cut ties with the Harmony Restoration Movement heavily implies. The assumption that the two of them might provide a bridge between the two sides via their continuing intimacy despite the polarization between the two sides seems unlikely, as Sokka did not end up going back to Kyoshi Island and instead joined the Harmony Restoration Movement and so it would appear that he and Suki have mostly been out of touch during the year after the War, and thus they do not have the connectedness necessary for patching over the issue between Zuko and Aang (at least, not how their relationship presently stands). To desire otherwise despite the obvious events of the story so far is to insert an ad hoc lyrical interpolation of the romantic variety into a mostly epical story, which would go far in explaining why those who primarily ship "Sukka" for "Sukka's" sake and who are worried about its emotional "sweetness" disappearing tend to not like the epical romances of "Kataang" and "Maiko" – they simply desire another style of writing than the show has chosen to base its narrative on (one which concentrates on character's inner emotional lives, rather than primarily on the events surrounding them), but have been able to understand an under-developed relationship as somehow comforming to their desires despite everything else. So, we are faced with a dilemna: does Sokka's role as a biased leader trying to hold the peace without undermining the Avatar's decision making bespeak of excess that Suki shall help lead him away from, or is it indeed his duty to take up that position, which thereby makes Suki's peacemaking without discrimination (until the point of obvious movements toward further colonization) a temptation that he ought to avoid?
While Suki's (probable) desire for peace at (almost) all costs is commendable, and most likely will be of great importance in how the events of The Promise Part 3 resolve themselves, Sokka's leadership was not portrayed in a negative light in Part 1 and if the tension builds up to the point where Aang may potentially have to kill Zuko (which, judging the thumbnails for the cover of Part 3, it will) or risk dropping his responsibilities as the Avatar, realistically speaking the potential violence must be mediated somehow and Sokka would have a duty to keep to his intentions to keep the war ended by supporting Aang in this endeavour even if it includes a limited amount of violence in the process. In that light, Suki's being on the opposite side ought to be seen as a temptation for Sokka, not a help.
As I have already detailed my thoughts on Toph's part in the plot elsewhere, I will not reiterate them here, and will simply ask that the reader bear them in mind if they found them in any way believable. The gist of it is, Toph most likely will have become more mature by the time of The Promise , and thus voluntarily has taken on the role of Metalbending Teacher (with all of the responsibilities that entails). It seems implied by the very way the description of Part 2 is written that Toph will need Sokka's guidance to fill this role properly, and if my theories are correct, to prove that her bending can be productive to her parents and in that way progress in the world. We have already seen that she is willing to defend him as a leader in The Promise Part 1, which would suggest that they continue to rely on one another provide the support necessary for their continuned ability to carry out their epic-making duties. As I have explained elsewhere, Toph is not morally stable on her own (contrary to what I myself once thought of her before "The Runaway") and require the motivation of a "loved" one who is willing to work alongside her and anchor her morally in human society. In a similar manner, Sokka has shown the need to cling to a loved one (first Yue, then Suki) in order to sustain his existence in the world, to the point at which he has been known to bullheadedly ignore what he knows he ought to be doing when they were percieved to have been in danger (as in "The Day of Black Sun Part 2"), something which Toph has had to save him from more than once. As Suki has done in the series, Toph likewise has given Sokka emotional support when his tendency to beat himself up internally for not holding to his leadership ideal rears its ugly head, though she has also shown the tendency to drag him away from his duties to a greater degree than Suki ever did(namely, when she bribed him in "The Runaway" to not tell Katara about the "Wanted" poster); however, if she has been reconciled to her parents and started up the Bei Fong Metalbending Academy in order to prove that there were responsible uses for her bending, she is more likely to lean towards the positive side of this dynamic in the comics than the negative (and it's not as if she didn't voluntarily come out of that extreme immature period in her life by the end of the episode, anyways).
That being said, the "movements and tensions" extant within the plot structure of the Avatar world tend to favor Toph supporting Sokka in the division of opinion seemingly present between him and Suki and the wrending apart of the "Sukka" relationship, and with that the reconciling of the antagonistic elements of Toph's familial vs. political life alongside those of Sokka's through the efforts of the other. Theoretically, this is fulfilled by Toph being motivated to eventually create the Metalbending cops of Republic City as a positive way of promoting the native Earth Kingdom people's position in the elder Fire Nation colonies at the behest of Sokka's desires as a leader, Sokka to give up his present immature desire to consider himself an "exceptional" person regarding romance (having "won" Suki forever because of his leadership during the War, despite the possible concerns of others, but who would not apply this principle to the relationships of others who accomplished much in the War, as Katara pointed out when the immature double standard was used against her) in a way which allows for him to remain a stable individual , by finding continual solace in his relationship with Toph. (If I'm right, the reason Sokka's future was not mentioned at the 2011 SDCC was not because he didn't contribute anything of importance, but because what he did contribute was intertwined with plot elements that they wished to leave a surprise.) This coheres well with what we know of Lin Bei Fong, and what a comprehensive knowledge of Toph's relation to romantic relationships in general leads me to believe about the general mold of the father and the general environment in which Lin would have therefore have been raised. That, at least, is where my understanding of the subject must lead me for now, until concrete evidence comes along which shows it to be invalid for one reason or another; in any case, it would fit with the pattern of focus that I've detected in fictional works, and I must say the idea of Toph as a "working mother" Metalbending police chief and Sokka as the "family man" husband who supports her & her daughter (and who would correspondingly highly ranked in the governing of Republic City alongside her, perhaps as the cop's techonological expert) in this endeavour intrigues me to no end, as it would completely reverse the counterposition between the traditionally masculine sphere of the state and traditionally feminine sphere of the family and reconcile them "from above" thereby.
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Currently, you have to implement an empty class for any local task plugin. This is a bit weird, you are then just using the empty class for the annotation. It makes sense, similar to routes, to have YAML discovery for these, then static local tasks just get added into a $module.localtasks.yml file. This seems like better UX, as people can then actually create a plugin class for dynamic local tasks.
API changes
Annotations for local tasks go away.
Caching is removed and will be handled in a follow since the strategy is being developed in parallel. (related issue below)
Related Issues
#2050227: Add local action plugin deriver to use YAML discovery for static definitions
#2032303: Cache the result of local tasks
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Comment #1larowlan CreditAttribution: larowlan commented
Comment #2damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
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Here's an initial patch for this. I have converted views local tasks and removed all the empty plugin classes.
The main thing that concerns me, is if we use a the standard derivative id pattern of "$base_plugin_id:$derivative_id" then the parent/root tab ids have to also reflect this, see the currently converted views_ui.local_tasks.yml file in the patch.
Comment #4damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
Comment #5tim.plunkett CreditAttribution: tim.plunkett commented
+++ b/core/modules/views_ui/views_ui.local_tasks.yml
@@ -0,0 +1,22 @@
+ tab_root_id: local_task_static:views_ui_list_tab
+ tab_parent_id: local_task_static:views_ui_settings_tab
This is a huge WTF. I'm not sure if the derivative system will let us work around this though?
Comment #6damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
Yep, that's exactly what I was saying in #2.
I guess we could implement our own discovery decorator? or just have the static plugin if as 'static' (or something), so the ids could be 'static:views_ui_list_tab' maybe?
Comment #7dawehner CreditAttribution: dawehner commented
I talked with neclimdul yesterday and to be honest he wasn't really convinced that local tasks as plugins are a good idea, so we didn't made any progress on that regard.
We could either implement our own (urgs) or allow the default one to be "configured".
Comment #8neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
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Here's an alternative. Its a patch based on #2065571: Add YAML Plugin discovery. Its incomplete, notably missing translation and caching. This was mostly because of the @todo about caching already in the Manager which this bespoke Manager could more properly handle. Solving that @todo was a larger task though with bigger picture concerns that need to be discussed.
Comment #10neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
|Needs work
|» Needs review
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diffed against old branch by accident.
Comment #11tim.plunkett CreditAttribution: tim.plunkett commented
+++ b/core/lib/Drupal/Core/Menu/LocalTaskManager.php
@@ -20,7 +24,25 @@
+ protected $defaults = array(
+ // The ID.
+ 'title' => '',
+ // The static title for the local task.
+ 'id' => '',
+ 'route_name' => '',
+ // The plugin ID of the root tab.
+ 'tab_root_id' => '',
+ // The plugin ID of the parent tab (or NULL for the top-level tab).
+ 'tab_parent_id' => NULL,
+ // The weight of the tab.
+ 'weight' => NULL,
+ // The default link options.
+ 'options' => array(),
+ // Default class for local task implementations.
+ 'class' => 'Drupal\Core\Menu\LocalTaskDefault',
+ );
This can go on the LocalTask annotation class
Comment #12neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
LocalTask annotation goes away because we aren't using annotations at all. That's not how this system works.
Comment #14neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
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apologies to tim for my last comment. it was correct but i needed a snickers. :)
Fix most of the failures. Root test is still failing and I don't see why(
$this->drupalGet('menu-local-task-test/tasks/view');). Also, added a test case for "dynamic" titles.
Comment #15damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
IMO we should really check that we can make this change instead of just the addition first.
Comment #16dawehner CreditAttribution: dawehner commented
Adding an api change tag.
Comment #17neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
|Needs work
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Comment #19neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
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I'm the worst. I uploaded the wrong patch but the right interdiff. Sorry for the noise.
Comment #20neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
|Needs work
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Comment #21damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
The patch is looking pretty good but should we not be working on the dependency first? i.e. #2065571: Add YAML Plugin discovery? As that will block this anyway.
For instance, the latest patch over there does not override the provider key, as this could be set on behalf of another module.
I will ask one of the core maintainers to give their opinion on this today.
As a side note, you should not criticise the work others do so much, it's not constructive :/ The derivative pattern was added (yes, it's not ideal) to have the minimum changes to the API (just additions).
Comment #22pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
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So I think the pattern used with local tasks should be the right one here also - we want a convenient YAML derivative provider, but we need to allow for modules (e.g. Views) to provide other derivatives. Or maybe I'm missing the flow.
in any case, I think this needs a re-roll since the standalone YAML Plugin discovery was committed.
Comment #23damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
Local actions?
Well, first we still need confirmation that this API change is allowed. The current patch will render all current plugins for local tasks broken. Which is why local actions currently has the derivative YAML pattern and not this one.
It is more of an issue here though, as local tasks reference other local tasks.
This is why I added a discovery decorator over in #2065571: Add YAML Plugin discovery, as a contingency plan. That got removed whilst I was asleep though.
Comment #24damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
|Needs work
|» Needs review
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Here is a reroll anyway.
Comment #25catch CreditAttribution: catch commented
Adding YAML discovery is fine, removing annotation discovery I don't see any reason to do that.
The only reason I can think of would be if the directory scans from both YAML + annotation discovery were too expensive on cache misses but no-one's brought that up on here (or any other real reason for removing it that I can see in this issue).
Comment #26neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
We're removing annotation discovery from local tasks because we're not using it. Why would we keep it?
Comment #27neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
Another reason we'd want to lean toward yaml only that catch wanted documented is that mixing the two means we have to scan directories for annotations and a separate set of directories for yaml files. 2 scans is less good.
Comment #28damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
|Add local task plugin deriver to use YAML discovery for static definitions
|» Replace local task plugin discovery with YamlDiscovery
This reflects better what we want to do?
Comment #29pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
@neclimdul - whatever we do, we need to have a simple way for modules like Views or Search to add local tasks dynamically. I'm not sure how the derivative decorator interacts with this YAML discovery?
Comment #30neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
@pwolanin is there not a test for this in core already? It should be handled by the derivative decorator being used by all other plugins system.
Comment #31pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
@neclimdul - had some discussion with EclipseGC about this to clarify my understanding - seems indeed like it should be handled, but it would be nice to demonstrate it.
Comment #32pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
I'm confused as to why are you creating a new LocalTaskDefault and not just using LocalTaskBase?
also, why comment out the alter hook?
+ // @todo caching/compiling, translations and altering.
+ // $this->alterInfo($module_handler, 'local_tasks');
Comment #33neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
re LocalTaskDefault I can't decide if it was because I was moving the static discovery from before or if its because Base is designed to be extended by all tasks and default is explicitly the default. I kinda like the way it is but if there's a case for removing it I'm open to hearing the argument.
re: todo because caching, altering, and translations are closely connected I was leaving it up to the follow up to get it right. We can't just uncomment it because we're not inheriting the DefaultPluginManager but we can put some sort of logic in if its needed.
Comment #34pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
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From IRC - you can skip calling the parent constructor and still extend DefaultPluginManager. Here's a quick re-roll to does that and removes 2 unneeded classes.
Something that seems to be missing from the committed YAML discovery is required key checking and typecasting (e.g. make sure a parameter is an array)?
Comment #35damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
Since when does discovery do that?
Possibly a required keys thing could work. I'm not sure about any type casting though. Why would we even want to do that? (I don't see the point of us doing it in the other issue before). If people have not used an array when they should have, they will get an error soon enough anyway. We don't want to do too much babysitting IMO. If something gets cast into an array, that could make DX worse, i.e. harder for a Dev to debug, or thinking that not using an array is ok.
Comment #36pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
damiankloip - I'm looking at the existing code for local actions disscovery via YAML
Comment #37damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
That's not a plugin discovery class though, that is just custom code to that derivative class.
Comment #38neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
re: skipping the constructor, I don't really like that. I don't know what the concern here is. Is there a problem, bug or concern?
Comment #39neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
+++ b/core/lib/Drupal/Core/Menu/LocalTaskManager.php
@@ -24,13 +24,14 @@
-class LocalTaskManager extends PluginManagerBase {
+class LocalTaskManager extends DefaultPluginManager {
I didn't want to have this discussion quite yet but since it's come up several times on IRC as well and it is a change I'm making in the patch so I should have done it earlier. This isn't pointed at anyone I just want to lay it all out here so everyone sees it.
TL;DNR We're taking unnecessary technical debt.
First, conceptually extending the default plugin manager doesn't make sense to me. Really I think its weird that we ever do extend it because it sort of breaks our semantics(base vs default) but that is a different argument. In this case we are not using the default methods for plugin management. We have different methods for discovery addressed in this issue and different methods for caching which affects all the rest of the DefaultPluginManager code minus maybe the cache clearing method. The alterInfo function pwolanin added it back for is so trivial I even wonder what the point is.
Now the academic argument. I think we're taking on technical debt that doesn't serve us well. The DefaultPluginManager is built to be the one true core plugin implementation. The core idea is that we want the implementations extending it to be tightly coupled as a way of being able to maintain them in a single location because other managers are basically only configuring it for each implementation.
The problem is the concerns of this plugin system are fundamentally different. We've got both a different discovery system, and different cache logic and probably additional concerns. We should remove the training wheels and really write the bespoke manager implementation we need and maintain exactly that not a monkey patch of another class we're not really using.
Comment #40neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
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Updated patch with some discussion from IRC.
1) Because every task isn't making a class, we're really making a default not a base implementation. So instead of removing the default remove the base and move the implementation.
2) Not actually from IRC but what I'd prefer to see happen based on my comment in #39. For now just store the moduleHandler and handle altering as part of cache follow up or as its own follow up.
Also, because it won't be clear from the interdiff, I updated the todo from the base implementation when I moved it.
I was also lazy worked on my local branch and manually applied pwolanin's changes since I was changing some of them. Because of that the interdiff is off of #19/#24 and you'll see a lot of the same changes. Sorry.
Comment #42neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
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Comment #43neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
|Needs work
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Comment #44dawehner CreditAttribution: dawehner commented
After quite some talking with chx and pwolanin we just want to use the decorator approach and reduce the amount of changes of the local task manager as much as possible.
An interdiff to #42 does not make that much sense as I started from 0. Well I copied quite some changes for the tests, so thank you for that!
Comment #45pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
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|» Needs work
I think if we are backing off of using primary YAML discovery we should align this with local actions and generate derivatives based on the YAML, instead of adding this extra decorator on top?
In any case, the 2 implementations should be in alignment.
Comment #46dawehner CreditAttribution: dawehner commented
|Needs work
|» Needs review
Comment #47neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
|Needs review
|» Needs work
Seriously, no. You're making things more complicated at some false sense of "bigger" changes. Don't.
Comment #48dawehner CreditAttribution: dawehner commented
Seriously, no. You're making things more complicated at some false sense of "bigger" changes. Don't.
So you don't like that we build up an alternative chain of constructors?
Great, now we finally found a solution of which all beside one person agrees with, yeah :)
Comment #49neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
|Needs work
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Comment #50neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
Maybe I'm not understanding what you did because there wasn't an interdiff and I don't have time to compare the patches line by line tonight but there is no possible reason I can think of to move yaml to a decorator. that is by the very definition of how plugins work the job of the discover object.
Comment #51neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
It seems the real concern here is that people want to continue inheriting from the DefaultPluginManager. I do still disagree but we don't need a decorator for that. I'm out of time for the evening but I'll re-roll 2 patches so we can see what's going on. Also, since this is a concern we want to discuss lets move the cache issue forward so we can include the cache complexities here instead of the @todo.
Comment #52pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
@neclimdul - no, I think the real concern is that custom implementations should use annotation rather than yaml.
Comment #53neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
Ok, so if we want to have definitions live in 2 places, have 2 directory scans and have an extra decorator to support it I'm not going to stop this. I do think it is the wrong decision though.
Comment #54pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
So... I know it seems the direction is moving around but I think we are all struggling to see if we are making the "right" decision in terms of setting a model for other parts of core and contrib. At least *I'm* struggling.
The advantage of using annotations for custom implementations is that the meta-data is directly on the class so e.g. it could be duplicated as a unit. Is this worth the potential confusing of there being 2 ways devs might need to approach the same general task?
Using some version of yaml discovery (instead of derivates) for the plugins using the default class means we have nicer IDs and an easier DX in the 80%+ case. But I think we'll need to do the kind of checking like #11 that Tim didn't like. Does having the annotation class means that default values are filled in? I'm not sure I see how that would work. At the least, they not that they are validated, so I think we need something like this list from #11 regardless.
Based on discussion w/ msonnabaum, the right place to put the validation might be in a factory class?
Comment #55pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
Maybe we can setup a hangout or some other way to have a real-time discussion?
I'm going to re-roll a patch that looks more like #34 and #42 (back to pure YAML discovery without a decorator) and add a custom factory class which is where the validation will live.
I think it's very helpful to keep the hook trivially in place by using the DefaultPluginManager since I'm guessing a module like Views would prefer to do that instead of having to set up a derivatives class via referencing it in YAML?
I think that remains an advantage of keeping annotation discovery too - that a derivative class can be located where needed and be totally self-contained?
Comment #56pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
turn out it needs a serious re-roll anyhow for changes including #2032303: Cache the result of local tasks
Comment #57pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
|Issue tags:
|-Needs reroll
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Here's a new one that adds a LocalTaskFactory, and translates the title (which was missing before). The title translation is actually a good reason perhaps to stick with one discovery - in the annotated version it was already translated, so we'd have a mix of translated and untranslated strings.
Note - I created the patch with git diff --no-renames, so it can be applied using patch as well.
Comment #58pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
Here's the same patch with the rename.
Comment #59pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
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So, further discussion in IRC with msonnabaum and others, suggests that setting defaults would ideally be in the YAML discovery since the annotation-based discovery already sets defaults and it would be good for them to work in parallel.
However, the rest of core already uses the $defaults array from the PluginManagerBase. So... let's go back to that and then we don't need the custom factory right now.
So, this ends up back very close to neclimdul's patch in #42 except that it continues to extend DefaultPluginManager so we don't have to re-implement the alter hook and caching, validates that a route name is present, and translates the plugin title inside the getTitle() method.
This one has the rename in the diff, for easier comparison to neclimdul's
Comment #61tim.plunkett CreditAttribution: tim.plunkett commented
|Needs work
|» Needs review
+++ b/core/lib/Drupal/Core/Menu/LocalTaskManager.php @@ -87,6 +106,17 @@ public function __construct(ControllerResolverInterface $controller_resolver, Re + public function processDefinition(&$definition, $plugin_id) { + $definition += $this->defaults;
Why not just call parent?
This isn't a problem now, but if it becomes a multidimensional array, this will stop working.
+++ b/core/lib/Drupal/Core/Menu/LocalTaskDefault.php @@ -85,16 +85,17 @@ public function getRouteName() { + return $this->t->translate($this->pluginDefinition['title']);
$this->t->translate will not work, we need $this->t(). That was decided already, see #2019679: Support for Drupal 8 $this->t()
+++ b/core/modules/system/tests/modules/menu_test/lib/Drupal/menu_test/Plugin/Menu/LocalTask/TestTasksSettingsSub1.php @@ -8,19 +8,16 @@ + return 'Dynamic title';
Wouldn't this need $this->t()?
Comment #62pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
PASSED: [[SimpleTest]]: [MySQL] 58,425 pass(es). View
@tim.plunkett I think this->t() vs this->t->translate() doesn't matter since I think the original test will need to be parsed out of the YAML?
It would only matter in the case of fixed strings in the class, but I guess we should provide a $this->t() for that use case?
Patch adds that method and fixes the test fail, and addresses the other comments.
- $definition += $this->defaults;
+ parent::processDefinition($definition, $plugin_id);
Comment #63tim.plunkett CreditAttribution: tim.plunkett commented
+++ b/core/lib/Drupal/Core/Menu/LocalTaskDefault.php @@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ class LocalTaskDefault extends PluginBase implements LocalTaskInterface, Contain * @var \Drupal\Core\StringTranslation\Translator\TranslatorInterface */ - protected $t; + protected $stringTranslation; @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ class LocalTaskDefault extends PluginBase implements LocalTaskInterface, Contain public function __construct(array $configuration, $plugin_id, array $plugin_definition, TranslatorInterface $string_translation, UrlGeneratorInterface $generator) { // This is available for subclasses that need to translate a dynamic title. - $this->t = $string_translation; + $this->stringTranslation = $string_translation;
This is the wrong interface, it should be
+++ b/core/lib/Drupal/Core/Menu/LocalTaskDefault.php @@ -74,6 +74,29 @@ public static function create(ContainerInterface $container, array $configuratio /** + * Translates a string to the current language or to a given language using + * the string translation service. + * + * @param string $string + * A string containing the English string to translate. + * @param array $args + * An associative array of replacements to make after translation. Based + * on the first character of the key, the value is escaped and/or themed. + * See \Drupal\Core\Utility\String::format() for details. + * @param array $options + * An associative array of additional options, with the following elements: + * - 'langcode': The language code to translate to a language other than + * what is used to display the page. + * - 'context': The context the source string belongs to. + * + * @return string + * The translated string. + */ + protected function t($string, array $args = array(), array $options = array()) { + return $this->stringTranslation->translate($string, $args, $options); + }
Per #2018411: Figure out a nice DX when working with injected translation, this should be
/** * Translates a string to the current language or to a given language. * * See the t() documentation for details. */ protected function t($string, array $args = array(), array $options = array()) { return $this->stringTranslation->translate($string, $args, $options); }
Comment #64pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
PASSED: [[SimpleTest]]: [MySQL] 58,403 pass(es). View
Thanks. Fixed those.
Also: #2079095: Shorten the doxygen for method t() in ControllerBase to the standard version
Comment #65dawehner CreditAttribution: dawehner commented
|Needs review
|» Reviewed & tested by the community
I think this is fine from my perspective!
Comment #66damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
|Needs review
|» Reviewed & tested by the community
|1003 bytes
PASSED: [[SimpleTest]]: [MySQL] 58,424 pass(es). View
+++ b/core/lib/Drupal/Core/Menu/LocalTaskManager.php
@@ -72,8 +94,10 @@ class LocalTaskManager extends DefaultPluginManager {
+ $this->discovery = new YamlDiscovery('local_tasks', array_values($module_handler->getModuleDirectories()));
Sorry to change status, but I'm not sure why array_values() is being used here?! It doesn't really make sense. You're definition will look like:
[title] => Settings
[tab_root_id] => views_ui_list_tab
[tab_parent_id] =>
[weight] => 0
[options] => Array
[class] => Drupal\Core\Menu\LocalTaskDefault
[route_name] => views_ui.settings.basic
[provider] => 38
[id] => views_ui_settings_tab
The local task definitions are not getting tested, only in unit tests that mock everything, so this wouldn't get picked up. This could be a follow up? I don't mind.
Comment #67damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
|Reviewed & tested by the community
|» Needs review
Comment #68dawehner CreditAttribution: dawehner commented
|Reviewed & tested by the community
|» Needs review
PASSED: [[SimpleTest]]: [MySQL] 58,392 pass(es). View
Added a test to ensure the provider key.
Comment #69pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
|Needs review
|» Reviewed & tested by the community
@damiankloip - thanks for catching that bug. I think with the added test coverage this is solid.
Comment #70damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
Was there some other reason array_values() was used in the first place (to fix anything else)? Seems like we have most things covered now though.
Comment #71pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
It was in the 1st patch by neclimdul in #8, so I think it was just a mistake or oversight that no one noticed and keep re-using.
Comment #72damiankloip CreditAttribution: damiankloip commented
OK, great. Looks good then!
Comment #73neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
|Reviewed & tested by the community
|» Needs work
Found two things that are missing. patch in a few.
Comment #74neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
|Needs work
|» Needs review
PASSED: [[SimpleTest]]: [MySQL] 58,553 pass(es). View
Peter caught me and corrected the only big concern I had. Just some doc and use cleanups. Added back the defaults that went missing so they are documented.
Comment #75neclimdul CreditAttribution: neclimdul commented
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PASSED: [[SimpleTest]]: [MySQL] 59,036 pass(es). View
"can you improve the doc name for route? i.e. that it's required and is used to generate the link for the tab?" - pwolanin
Comment #76pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
|Needs review
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thanks for the extra docs
Comment #77pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
Comment #78dawehner CreditAttribution: dawehner commented
|» Critical
Given that this blocks #2076283: Allow local task plugins on paths with a dynamic value (like a node) and #2045267: LocalTaskBase and LocalTaskInterface has to work with routes containing parameters, which itself blocks every advanced conversion like node/{node}/edit and field UI this feels critical, sorry.
Comment #79pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
Comment #80catch CreditAttribution: catch commented
|Replace local task plugin discovery with YamlDiscovery
|» Change notice: Replace local task plugin discovery with YamlDiscovery
|» Major
|Reviewed & tested by the community
|» Active
|Issue tags:
|+Needs change record
Looks great. Committed/pushed to 8.x.
Will need a change notice.
Comment #81pwolanin CreditAttribution: pwolanin commented
|Change notice: Replace local task plugin discovery with YamlDiscovery
|» Replace local task plugin discovery with YamlDiscovery
|» Fixed
|Issue tags:
|-Needs change record
Added a short new change notice at : https://drupal.org/node/2085285
and updated the original one at: https://drupal.org/node/2044515
Comment #83plach CreditAttribution: plach commented
Comment #83.0plach CreditAttribution: plach commented
Update to clarify new direction of issue.


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Staff was friendly. Room was comfortable. Desk staff responded to my requests. Location was convenient. Onsite laundry mat. Swimming pool looks spacious, but it was the wrong season for swimming. The clothes dryer did not work well. I had trouble starting it and I had to dry my clothes through 2 cycles. The computer in the lobby did not access the internet. I asked for assistance from the lady at the desk. She agreed that it did not work.
Ceiling in room looked freshly painted Smelled everywhere! Comforter had oil type stains. Shower nasty, bed hard.
Close to rafting site. I could not leave my cabin luggage behind for a couple of hours.
friendly staff, clean room. NO coffee machines in room
Hotel was close to the freeway. Rooms were updated. Starbucks and Denny's across the street. Mold growing on the ceiling in bathroom. Phone did not work. Cousins room was missing their smoke detector.
Very nice mattress. Nicest Motel 6 I've stayed at (and I've stayed in at least a dozen). Very convenient to freeway, groceries and fast food, but secluded and quiet. Good place to stay on the way to Tahoe, etc.
The lobby was very nice. Also coffee available Not liking is a complaint so here it is The train and not having someone at the desk for check in
The place is listed as 2 Stars, but since I knew it was recently remodeled (Summer 2013), I considered the rate I paid a great bargain. In the middle of the night there was yelling, threats of violence, slamming doors, and eventually police activity that involved police dogs pursuing suspects. How the guests behave are beyond Motel 6's control, but no effort was made to let the guests know that the threat had passed. It took a while to settle down and get back to sleep after all that commotion. In the morning, the young desk attendant wasn't prepared to address the overnight issue with departing guests. There were uncomfortable moments and awkward silences when I inquired about the frequency of such events.
Reasonable price. Staff, rooms, facilities, beds, towels, and linens were all terrible. Would not recommend coming here.
In short price was cheap for my visit to Fast Fridays Speedway in Auburn the purpose of my visit. Oldtown Auburn clearly has some oldy worldy charm also, though only saw briefly due to lack of time in Auburn. Auburn Alehouse has some nice microbrews. As I came in on Amtrak had no car, you clearly need a car to stay here, only stayed the night but I could not see that you could walk anywhere significant from hotel, you could cross at top of road to come back down to Dennys but not a lot else. Can only recommend if visit combined with a car. This is a motel in every sense of the word.
I like that it was low key & no pomp. --I Do wish there were a few more lounge areas, even just a sofa to have a bit of private time away from persons and still be out. There's a sofa & chairs on the 3rd floor----it'd be nice to have a few more sitting options around.
Close to our golf venues...parking in front of door, easy access in & out Ice machine should be in eating/lobby area..
Friendly and helpful staff. Room was clean and smelled fresh. Accommodates dogs and has a grass area with pick-up bags and seating. During my stay the roof was being repaired and the noise started at 8am. Would have liked it quiet for a couple more hours.
The room was very clean and comfortable.
The hotel was clean as a whistle, the bed very comfortable and everything worked great. The breakfast selections were varied and good too. Great stay.
Clean place with a nice breakfast. The staff was really nice. The noise from the freeway seem to be very noisy. I attribute this to the gap on the doors. I think that if some weather stripping were placed there, it would cut the outside noise in half.
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The motel was near where I needed to visit. The breakfast was good. Staff helpful. It was clean. There was no microwave or sm. Refrigerator. I thought that came with all Best Western motels.
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Much nicer than the other places I've stayed in Auburn. If only the price were this competitive all the time.
Clean No
Comfortable bed which is important to us. Nice room for the money.
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The room was large & the bed comfortable. Easy to walk to downtown. Staff was extremely cooperative & knowledgeable. Everything was great
Extremely comfortable mattress. Very nice bath products. Nice wine and cheese in the evening. Great breckfast in the morning. Staff very accommodating and friendly.
The staff were really friendly on arrival and moved our room to be one that was much closer to the reception area. Breakfast was complimentary and suited us fine. Room was comfortable and spacious with good visitor information booklet. We liked it and was perfect for our stay.
Nice, attractive area with shopping and restaurants nearby. Close to Grass Valley and Nevada City. The breakfast could be expanded slightly: just one hot dish was available.
The friendly staff Willingness to satisfy our requests Cleanliness Manicured grounds Safe and enjoyable surroundings Great complimentary breakfast Nothing
I found the staff to be very friendly and very accomodating. I also liked that it was located next to where the police parked their vehicles.
The bed was super cozy! Enough pillows fer sure. Hot tub not working :( No q-tips, box was empty, excellent breakfast!
No problems, free wi-fi, breakfast, nice people
The facilities met our requirements and the location was excellent for discovering til northern Gold Country no
I liked the layout and design that allowed me to sit outside my separate entrance room and enjoy the nice weather. Breakfast was crowded. No place to sit.
Good experience, clean rooms. Friendly staff Small pool, aircon loud in room but necesarry it was very hot in Grass Valley
The breakfast and the cleanliness of the room
Old architecture. Listening to people in next room talking.
Historical aspect was interesting, location good but other hotels in town were much better for the money. STAY AWAY!! A/C not turned on unless you request it DAILY. Thermostat outside room controls 3 different rooms and is locked. Room furniture was falling apart and unsafe. Bathroom (claw-foot tub) barely usable - poor water pressure, curtains too small don't close, water leaks everywhere. Tthe dresser-drawers were stuck closed. Bed was a wreck and fancy headboard barely attached. Ceiling had multiple large water stains - thank goodness it was dry during our stay. Breakfast was not free and we had better at a Country Inns. Bar was crowded and understaffed for a wedding. Outside walls are bowed and crumbling, structure felt far beyond worn out. PS - there is no ghost - I think it was a publicity stunt by the hotel.
Free breakfast, clean room
I requested a non-smoking room yet people were smoking right outside my room. It was an ashtray outside my door way it was spilling over with cigarette butts in the parking lot was filled with cigarette butts and obviously had not been cleaned up for weeks and weeks. My room smells very fresh smoke
Excellent breakfast, friendly staff, very clean The room faced the freeway and the noise was bad. Also, there were no blankets on the bed. When I went to the front desk to request a blanket they said they were all out and gave me extra sheets instead. It didn't help much.
The location is the best part about it. It's right off the 80 freeway so it's a quick overnight stop between Lake Tahoe and San Francisco. It was absolutely filthy. Our towels were badly stained. Our sheets were stained. The carpet was stained. The bathroom could have used a good wipe down. Maybe we got a fluke room but it was definitely not worth even $80/night.
Fairly dirty. Pillows were 1/2 pillows. TV remote missing and the one brought from front desk didn't work well or the TV was malfunctioning. Heater smelled like a toaster heating element. Key card machine was broken so you had to go to front desk and wait for someone to let you in your room.
Great location, very clean.
Easy parking, quiet corner room, had a table and 2 chairs. Airconditioning was directed right on the bed. Only 2 pillows on a kingsize bed. Noise from freeway.
The hotel is next to highway so commute was very convenient. I booked for a room with two Queen side beds and I did get it -- only problem was that the room was not cleaned. We had to swap for another room with two double beds. The new room was cleaned for sure, but the general condition was not beat down. There was a microwave and a small refrig which made noise all night. The breakfast was minimal. My kids got one yogurt. All in all this is an 1-star experience.
They will charge you extra money for your pets even though it is not listed on the kayak site anywhere on the return email they send you or on their personal Hotel website they are thieves they robbed me and I will continue to demean their name until they give me my money back
Very great Location! The Staff are wonderful & very friendly! Needs to be upgraded ! Beds are not very comfortable-hard as a rock! Grounds need a lot of work!
Comfortable bed. Large room. Small, unlit shower with a low flow shower head. Poor WiFi connection. No coffee availability in the room.
The Manager was a nice guy! The place was literally falling apart, T.V didn't work, Shower barely put out water floors were vacuumed but filthy, Definitely a last resort?
None of the above terms describes the motel. That being said, the bed was fairly comfortable. The location was right next to the highway. The facilities were outdated. The ice machine was broken. The free breakfast was minimal at best. The bath soap was tiny. The towels were so old and small that they were like sandpaper. We didn't feel safe because the bathroom window wouldn't lock. The staff was indifferent. We were unhappy with the experience altogether. Either the owner was cheap, the management was lazy or both.
Staff where very friendly. Quite location. Facility was clean. Place needs modernation.bathroom fan sounds like a jet engine, banister to up stairs needs fixing ,very loose. Next time I would stay down stairs.
The staff was excellent, attentive and polite. The addition of a free breakfast and happy hour was a plus that we took advantage of. The downtown location and easy freeway access is another plus. Overall this is a great place to stay! No
Free happy hour and breakfast although I didn't use either, nice to have the option. Coupons for local restaurants also nice. Easy to get taxi service. Didn't see tv express check out. Only one person was on staff so check out was a little delayed.
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Bed comfort was great Location was great Breakfast was great except the juice dispenser was broken . Once we got past the powdered scrambled eggs Yes. They used to provide shower gel Now it is barceoap I prefer shower gel
No lock on bathroom window. Heating of room was extremely slow with electric baseboard vs. cinder block walls. Shady people hanging around outside. Crazy man screaming in the middle of the night in hallway, taken away by police in the morning.
I'm pretty sure it violated a lot of fire code and the mold on the bathroom ceiling wasn't very pleasant. And for----/night?
Location, price, room amenities (more TV channels than 5-star hotels). Totally out of date; water pressure too much.
This place was very minimal. Overall no complaints. The girl who was working the front desk was very nice and helpful. If you just need a place to rest your head, this will do.
Front desk staff was professional and nice. Non smoking room smelled like cigarettes, and loud marijuana party with 10 people next door! We had to sleep in the car. It was horrible.
Hotel was basic No


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Just wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction for schools/unis/colleges that teach photography in Hawaii.
We're gonna be eloping about this time next year, most likely on Oahu (from Australia). As it'll just be the two of us, it'll only be a small, short ceremony. I would still like to get some photos though, and am hoping to find a photography/art student who might be interested in taking some for us.
Most photographers seem to have 3 (or more) hourly packages... 3 hours would be way
too long! And I'm not sure if I should trust those officiant sites that include a ceremony & photographer - are they really photographers or just the officiant's wife/husband/cousin/uncle/whatever taking some happy snaps?
Anyone know of a talented student who could spare an hour or 2 to take some nice, artistic photos?