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Aquaculture Technology leads in consulting & planning, chemicals & hormons, diets & feeds, eggs & frys. Fish farming Systems and fish farming equipment. Consulting - Design - Planning for aquaculture and fish farms.
based in Kitzbuehel, AUSTRIA.
Scubla produces and distributes all over the world products and technologies for aquaculture, environmental monitoring, ecology and research. Scubla is a leading company, able in providing the latest technology and complete solutions for research facilities, fish hatcheries, recirculated aquaculture plants.
based in Remanzacco, ITALY.
The Aquaculture Association of Nova Scotia represents and is the advocate for people involved in the aquaculture industry in this province. It includes farmers of shellfish and finfish, fish processors, fish hatchery & nursery owner-operators, land-based recirculation operators involved in alternate species, and a range of industry suppliers.
based in Halifax, NOVA SCOTIA (CANADA).
AquaMaof Aquaculture Technologies, Ltd. designs and manufactures equipment for aquaculture sector, fish and food processing and construction of processing plants. The company has supplied many turn-key installations to major seafood companies in the world. The expertise and focus of AquaMaof Aquaculture Technologies, Ltd. is in its total commitment to giving fish growers ...
based in Rosh Ha'ayin, ISRAEL.
Blue Ridge Aquaculture, Inc. is the world's largest producer of tilapia using indoor recirculating aquaculture systems (RAS). Each year, Blue Ridge Aquaculture produces 4 million pounds of tilapia, shipping between 10,000 and 20,000 pounds of live tilapia every day. These fish are raised without the use of antibiotics or hormones, and are free of mercury (undetectable ...
based in Ridgeway, VIRGINIA (USA).
aquaFUTURE e.K. specialist in fish feeders, aquaculture consulting, fish cage systems, recirculation aquaculture systems (RAS), incubators, fish egg incubation boxes products.
based in Kreuztal, GERMANY.
At AquaRanch Industries, we use a system of aquaponics. Aquaponics is the combination of aquaculture (raising fish) and hydroponics (raising plants with nutrient rich water) in the same water system. It is the symbiotic cultivation of plants and aquatic animals in a recirculating environment.
based in Roanoke, ILLINOIS (USA).
Inter Aqua Advance A/S (IAA) was founded in 1978. IAA was the first company in the world supplying commercial recirculation plants for the aquaculture industry in Europe, U.S.A., Asia and Oceania. About 150 plants ranging from production capacities of 10 tons/year to 2,000 tons/year per module have been delivered.IAA has since its start always been in the forefront of ...
based in Egaa, DENMARK.
Sterner AquaTech UK is one of the country`s leading providers of water treatment solutions to the aquaculture industry, commercial enterprise, and domestic installations. Our services range from supplying plant and parts, through to design and installation of major treatment projects. Fresh water aquaculture. Sea water aquaculture
based in Inverness, UNITED KINGDOM.
Billund Aquaculture is a Danish company located in Billund, Denmark. In addition we have two daughter companies in Puerto Montt in Chile (Billund Aquaculture Chile S.A.) and in Trondheim in Norway (Billund Aquaculture Norway AS). Billund Aquaculture was founded in 1986 and offers more than 26 years of experience in design, installations, service and operation of intensive ...
based in Billund, DENMARK.
Development and construction of aquaculture water treatment units for marine land-based recirculating aquaculture systems worldwide. In the last few decades aquaculture developed into an alternative to cover the increasing human demand for fish. In the last decades marine aquaculture (mariculture) has grown at an average of 9% per year. Considering the rising demand for ...
based in Uetze-Eltze, GERMANY.
AquaSol, Inc. is a United States based aquaculture consulting company that provides expert opinions, technology transfer, and aquaculture project management services to new and existing aquaculture projects worldwide. AquaSol is based in the United States and is a State of Florida Corporation established in 1997.
based in Coral Gables, FLORIDA (USA).
AquaBioTech Group is a leading independent aquaculture, fisheries and environmental consulting, development, testing / research and training company operating throughout the world.
based in Targa Gap,, MALTA.
Tailor Made Fish Farms Pty Ltd is a commercial aquaculture business located in the Port Stephens area of the Hunter region in NSW. TMFF is recognized in Australia and overseas as an expert in land based intensive aquaculture farming. The company has invested $1.5m pioneering our aquaculture technology and applied this to Australia`s first successfully Integrated ...
based in Bobs Farm, AUSTRALIA.
Aquaprocess is established in 2015 by Gitte Christensen and Jens Toftdahl. Both of us have a long and broad experience from the aquaculture business- from extensive farming systems through pond and cage farming to the closed Recirculated Aquaculture Systems RAS and we have been around most farmed fish in cold and warm water – and in fresh and sea water. Gitte has worked ...
based in DENMARK.
Aquatec Solutions operates world-wide in supplying fish farming solutions for both salt water fish aquaculture and fresh water fish aquaculture. We cover the range from turn-key fish farming systems to high quality fish farming equipment and components. In fish farming solutions we go all the way from development and design to project management and installation ...
based in Egtved, DENMARK.
Aquacare Environment Inc. supplies controlled environment aquaculture technology to the aquaculture industry. Our team specializes in land-based controlled environment aquaculture systems. Aquacare can develop, design and supply complete fish farms for clients worldwide, and can supply cost effective prefabricated system components to existing farms. Aquacare was ...
based in Bellingham, WASHINGTON (USA).
GRM is a group of highly qualified professionals specialising in Aquaculture project management and services and Waste Water Treatment system designs. Every member of our team has more than ten years of experience in designing, working and managing sustainable and environment friendly farming systems and waste water treatment systems.
based in Hong Kong, CHINA.
Cowex A/S is a company specialised in process technical solutions focusing on Industrial-IT, Automation and Process Technology within the areas of water supply & waste water, process industry (industrial automation) and aquaculture (industrialised fish farming). The company possesses an updated process technical knowledge, which is our background producing detailed plans, ...
based in Hellerup, DENMARK.
Envista Farms, LLC is a commercial scale hydroponics and aquaponics grower and distributor of fish and vegetables to retailers in the Mid-Atlantic Region. Envista Farms has farm sites in Delaware, Chester and Dauphin counties in Pennsylvania. Also, Envista is developing sites in New York, New Jersey, Maryland and Virginia. Envista Farms uses the nutrients that are found ...
based in Harrisburg, PENNSYLVANIA (USA).
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G-CSF PMRD: Granulocyte Colony Stimulating Factor (G-CSF) Stimulated Bone Marrow and In Vivo T-Cell Depletion in Patients With Hematologic Malignancies or Bone Marrow Failure Syndrome (G-CSF PMRD)
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The purposes of this study are:
- To examine the engraftment rate in patients receiving in vivo T-cell-depleted G-CSF stimulated bone marrow from partially mismatched related donors.
- To evaluate the incidence and severity of acute and chronic graft-versus-host disease in patients receiving in vivo T-cell-depleted G-CSF stimulated bone marrow from partially mismatched related donors.
|Hematologic Malignancies
|Drug: Granulocyte Colony Stimulating Factor
|Study Type:
|Study Design:
|Intervention Model: Single Group Assignment
Masking: Open Label
Primary Purpose: Treatment
|Official Title:
|Feasibility Study of Using G-CSF Stimulated Bone Marrow and In Vivo T-Cell Depletion in Patients With Hematologic Malignancies or Bone Marrow Failure Syndrome With Partially Mismatched Related Donors
- Engraftment Rate [ Time Frame: Day 45 ]The number of participants who received in vivo T-cell-depleted G-CSF stimulated bone marrow from partially mismatched related donor who reached engraftment by Day 45.
- Incidence of Acute Graft-versus-host Disease [ Time Frame: Day 100 ]The number of participants diagnosed with new acute graft-versus-host disease (GVHD).
- Incidence of Chronic Graft-versus-host Disease [ Time Frame: Duration of Study (Up to two years) ]The number of participants diagnosed with chronic graft-versus-host disease (GVHD).
|Study Start Date:
|April 2004
|Study Completion Date:
|January 2015
|Primary Completion Date:
|January 2015 (Final data collection date for primary outcome measure)
|Assigned Interventions
Granulocyte Colony Stimulating Factor (G-CSF) stimulation
Participants will receive bone marrow from donors who undergo Granulocyte Colony Stimulating Factor (G-CSF) stimulation prior to bone marrow collection.
Drug: Granulocyte Colony Stimulating Factor
FILGRASTIM: G-CSF (NEUPOGEN®) is administered as a short IV infusion over 30 minutes or subcutaneously. It is given beginning on day -3 for 3 days to the donor prior to the bone marrow harvest.
Drug Information: FILGRASTIM: G-CSF (Neupogen®) Formulation: G-CSF is available as a preservative-free solution for injection in 1.0 ml and 1.6 ml vials containing 300 mcg/ml.
Administration: G-CSF 5 mcg/kg/d will be given subcutaneously or as a short I.V. infusion over 30 minutes.
Recombinant GM-CSF at the dose of 250 mcg/m2 will be given intravenously from day +7 to help white counts recovery. The drug will be diluted in NS at a concentration of at least 10 mcg/ml.
Drug Information: Sargramostim (Leukine) Formulation: 250 mcg, 500 mcg lyophlized powder for injection
Detailed Description:
This study is a single-arm, non-randomized feasibility study. Patients meeting the criteria for this study will be entered sequentially until completion or closure of the study. Early stopping rules will be employed to ascertain whether an unacceptable rate of toxicity (non-engraftment, and/or acute GVHD) occurs.
Patients will be prepared for transplant through the administration of the following conditioning regimen based on their primary disease:
- Total body irradiation (1400 rads in 8 fractionated doses) and high dose chemotherapy, including cytosine arabinoside, etoposide, and cyclophosphamide. Patients with bone marrow failure syndrome will not receive etoposide in the conditioning regimen.
- Post transplant immunosuppression prophylaxis against acute GVHD will include sequential administration of cyclosporine, methotrexate, basiliximab and mycophenolate.
- The donor will receive 3 daily G-CSF injections prior to marrow harvest starting on day -3. The injections may be initiated by the donor's primary physician prior to donor's arrival, or by the BMT service at Children's Healthcare of Atlanta.
- Patients will receive daily GM-CSF injections (250 mcg/m2) starting from day +7 post transplant until absolute neutrophil count (ANC) is greater than 2,000/µL for three days.
|Ages Eligible for Study:
|up to 22 Years (Child, Adult)
|Sexes Eligible for Study:
|Accepts Healthy Volunteers:
Inclusion Criteria:
Patients with hematologic malignancies or bone marrow failure syndrome who are candidates for allogeneic bone marrow transplantation are eligible for this study. Hematologic malignancies indicated for transplantation:
- Acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL) in first remission (with high risk feature), 2nd or greater remission.
- Acute myeloid leukemia (AML) in first remission (with high risk feature), 2nd or greater remission.
- Chronic myeloid leukemia (CML) in 2nd chronic phase or accelerated phase.
- Juvenile myelomonocytic leukemia (JMML).
- Myelodysplastic syndrome.
- Biphenotypic leukemia in first (with high risk feature), 2nd or greater remission.
- Induction failure leukemia.
- Refractory relapsed leukemia.
- Bone marrow failure syndrome.
- Severe aplastic anemia failed immunotherapy.
- Patients who do not have a 6 out of 6 matched related or unrelated donor or 4/6 and 5/6 matched cord blood will be eligible for this study.
- Partially mismatched related donor availability as defined by molecular typing with 3 to 5 HLA matches.
- Patients who are under 22 years of age.
Exclusion Criteria:
- Patients will not be excluded based on sex, racial, or ethnic background.
Patients will be excluded if they demonstrate significant functional deficits in major organs, which would obviously interfere with successful outcome following bone marrow transplant utilizing the following guidelines.
- Evidence of active, deep-seated, life-threatening infections for which there is no known effective therapy (certain fungal species, HIV, etc.).
- Patients who have been treated for infections must have appropriate responses as documented by 2 (two) consecutive negative cultures and/or stable radiographic examinations.
- Patients who have active central nervous system (CNS) leukemic disease.
- Patients will be excluded if they are women of childbearing potential who are currently pregnant (beta-HCG+) or who are not practicing adequate contraception.
- Patients who have had a previous hematopoietic stem cell transplant will be excluded.
- Donors will be excluded if they are sensitive to E. coli-derived protein.
Please refer to this study by its ClinicalTrials.gov identifier: NCT00228813
|United States, Georgia
|Children's Healthcare of Atlanta/Emory University
|Atlanta, Georgia, United States, 30322
|Principal Investigator:
|Kuang-Yueh Chiang, M.D.
|Children's Healthcare of Atlanta/Emory University
|Responsible Party:
|Kuang-Yueh Chiang, Associate Professor, Emory University
|ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier:
|NCT00228813 History of Changes
|Other Study ID Numbers:
0159-2004 ( Other Identifier: Emory University )
|Study First Received:
|September 27, 2005
|Results First Received:
|March 23, 2016
|Last Updated:
|May 25, 2016
Additional relevant MeSH terms:
Hemoglobinuria, Paroxysmal
Hematologic Diseases
Anemia, Hemolytic
Myelodysplastic Syndromes
Bone Marrow Diseases
Adjuvants, Immunologic
Immunologic Factors
Physiological Effects of Drugs
ClinicalTrials.gov processed this record on July 19, 2017


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I've been working in-house at RBI Incorporated for about 3 years. It's a job with many hats: Web design, development, marketing and advertising. Which can mean that I jump from making new promotional banners on Facebook, to building search refinements for an online store over the span of a few hours.
Rawlings Gear was once the official store of Rawlings Sporting Goods, then broke off to become it's own independent entity.
I was originally hired to handle the task of Email Design and Marketing. Anything from promotional emails, to newsletters, to cart abandonment notices. Each promotional email usually has matching banner ads that launch the same day.
Creating HTML email is always interesting. From a development standpoint, you have to create a webpage as if it was 1998, while still keeping up with all the quirks of modern browsers. Which can sometimes feel like rigging a fax machine up to print a video.
Building a One Page Checkout is considered the Holy Grail of User Experience Design. I consolidated Rawlings Gear's five page process into one, hiding and highlighting content as needed. You can try out a basic wireframe here.
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Using the newest beta build (this problem didn't exist in Alpha), when I accept a ticket using IE8 (in IE8 standards mode) the Reponse/Note box appears briefly, then disappears before I can start typing in it.
In order to bring it back I have to either click on another ticket and come back to it, or I have to click on Purchases tab and click back. Works fine in Chrome and Firefox, just seems to be a problem with IE8.
Jun 17, 2009 at 9:57 UTC
Found the problem, in case any one else encounters this. It was due to the Helpdesk Customizations Clone plugin. It doesn't play nice with IE8 and Spiceworks 4. :)
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May 26, 2009 at 9:20 UTC
Jason, I'm pretty sure IE8 is not supported as a spiceworks compatible browser.
May 26, 2009 at 9:22 UTC
I could have sworn that the documentation for 4.0 said that it would be supporting IE 8 as a compatible browser. If not, that's a huge mistake in my opinion.
May 26, 2009 at 9:38 UTC
I'm not a big fan of IE so I'm glad to see that talented and useful companies like spiceworks are confident and bold enough to walk away from it. That's what happens when something becomes less and less useful, people stop using it. I've been using firefox since 0.9 and netscape before that, and I'm never going back to MSIE.
May 26, 2009 at 9:50 UTC
Whether you like it or not doesn't change the fact that it's still got more than 75% of market share. You can't completely ignore the biggest platform when you're developing software, even if you may not like it. Futher, IE8 is light years ahead of IE7 and IE6. Is it perfect? Nope. Is Firefox (or Chrome, or Safari, or Konqueror)? Nope. Different strokes for different folks.
As a note, in another thread Tabrez said that IE8 is supported in 4.0, but all of the bugs haven't been worked out yet.
May 26, 2009 at 10:30 UTC
True, but everybody knows the reason behind that market share is simply that fact that it comes installed on virtually every pc manufactured. The only reason most people use it is because they don't know any better. When you use the word "you" I assume you were talking about the Spiceworks developers since I did not develop Spiceworks. I don't know if "not liking it" would be Spiceworks' reason for ending support. I imagine it would be all that extra work they have to put in just to make their application somewhat usable when viewed through it. I have read about other developers having trouble with IE when using newer web languages like ruby on rails. You are right, nothing is perfect, but some things are obviously better than others.
Ah, ok, I was basing that "pretty sure" on an ad that had seen occasionally in the spiceworks UI. It, however, was not referring to IE8, but IE6. It's a shame that the developers have to spend so much time working out bugs for IE; i guess that's why they are dropping support for IE6.
May 26, 2009 at 10:31 UTC
yep that's why...
May 26, 2009 at 10:57 UTC
We only support IE officially in our environment, but I use FireFox for SpiceWorks. Plus, you get to use their awesome toolbar that way!
May 26, 2009 at 11:03 UTC
Ditto here, though I lean towards IE more due to ASP.NET development work. As we support IE officially, I have to make sure it works there first, then worry about Firefox and others.
May 29, 2009 at 5:05 UTC
Hi Jason, I cannot reproduce this issue so I will need your help diagnosing the problem.
- Please restart Spiceworks via the SysTray icon and reproduce the issue.
Stop Spiceworks if it's running by right clicking the Spiceworks SysTray icon and selecting Exit.
Open Windows Explorer and Browse to the following directory.
C:\Program Files\Spiceworks
Run the Spiceworks_Package.exe executable file (This program will zip up your log files into a file called spiceworks_package.zip).
Send the spiceworks_package.zip file to firstname.lastname@example.com and include a link to this post in the message body.
:^) Harold
Jun 5, 2009 at 8:32 UTC
Sorry, just saw this message. I'll get it on the way.
Jun 17, 2009 at 9:57 UTC
Found the problem, in case any one else encounters this. It was due to the Helpdesk Customizations Clone plugin. It doesn't play nice with IE8 and Spiceworks 4. :)
Jun 18, 2009 at 10:20 UTC
Thanks for the update.


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Introducing the evening with guest Chef and editor, Abigail Donnelly from Taste Magazine, Masterchef threw another surprise challenge at our unsuspecting South African contestants. They arrived and as Ilse said, the expectations were quite high as there was now a 1 in 10 chance of becoming SA's first Masterchef. Only the best equipment and finest ingredients at their disposal this challenge tested the contestants ability to cook a meal for 4 within the budget of R150. This dish had to still be worthy of royalty, tasty and be a real budget sensation!
Rushing through the pantry and grabbing ingredients in true rushed Masterchef style, not paying too much attention to what the actual price of the well-polished Woolworths food items are, the judges walked around with a BIG calculator costing the contestants' ingredients and forcing those that had too exorbitantly priced meals to lose a few items. Llungile was first up for judging presenting roast chicken in a rustic style presentation with a lovely yellow Polenta. Abigail felt this meal was a bit lacking in body and pudding would have been a necessity. Khaya followed to the judges' tasting table with a sad two pieces of chicken legs, to share, between four people and although cooked well with a lovely cornbread accompaniment, her mushroom dish was over-salted and according to Chef Benny a bit disappointing. Jade decided to opt for "Pork Poached in Milk" and she herself was a bit unsure whether her pork was going to be overcooked. True to judging in Masterchef her combinations were 'great' but the seasoning was almost non-existent here and Jade didn't deliver a colourful enough meal. Deena's "Parmesan & Herb Chicken Schnitzel" impressed Chef Pete and Abigail alike, with comments such as that he had hit the 'brief on the head' and that he had made 'that little piece of chicken very proud.' Thys brought forward a "Family Style Chicken" with crisp Parmesan which according to Chef Pete was the tastiest thing on his plate. Samantha disappointed the judges with her Asian/Oriental fusion cooking, placing a cooked piece of trout on a Roast vegetable base, gritty asparagus and her red onions overpowering just about every other element on the plate. Manisha, whom was the top dish and star of the challenge, presented a BIG plate of "Roast Chicken with Vegetables and Sauce" which according to the judges was real 'family eating' and delicious. Abigail even said to Manisha that if she had bottled that sauce, her own kitchen would be full of it!
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Time to up the stakes and get there says Chef Andrew as Chef Benny asks Chef Pete to bring out the elimination challenge of the day. Pete brings out this big silver pot and immediately I knew, as I am sure you did too, this is a FIX THAT DISH challenge! Chef Benny mentioned that the three needed to fix or rectify the Minestrone soup which was purposefully cooked badly by the chefs as well as fix this dish in ONLY 6 steps. Chef Pete stipulated here specifically that the judges were not looking for the contestants' jazzed up version of Minestrone soup of their interpretation of it, but rather their replication of the original Minestrone soup recipe.
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Samantha was disappointingly the competitor to leave the competition with her "oily minestrone soup" due to too much pancetta which was, to the judges' opinion worse than Khaya's "Mexican Minestrone Salsa Coriander & Pepper flavoured Soup." Samantha left very teary-eyed mentioning that although eliminated this was a very positive experience for her in Masterchef South Africa and that she will never forget any of it.
Looking forward to the twists and surprises in judging, next week takes us back to idyllic Nederburg where the contestants will meet the Nederburg Wine Master as well as Cook for some famous faces in the Invention Test. Grab it, Grill it, chargrill it or braai it, what will the judges decide is the way to the heart of Masterchef South Africa's Final destination…
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Does anyone know how to turn on the SNMP debugging on server 2008?
I found a link for server 2000 and 2003 and the steps either don't appear to be working or I'm doing something wrong. I used what was listed in link, plus I tried to modify debug leveltype to just a value of 2 to output just the .log file. If someone could confirm this works with 2008 then I'll know it's me and not the server(s).
I also tried using the switches with just snmp.exe but that didn't seem to work either...
Jul 5, 2012 at 3:52 UTC
I used a log type of 6 so it dumped to the event log. It generated an event id of 2020 from EvntAgent.
There appears to be a hotfix for it:
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Jul 5, 2012 at 1:17 UTC
Hi David,
Stupid question...Is the SNMP Feature enabled? In Server 2008 it isn't enabled by default.
Jul 5, 2012 at 2:24 UTC
Yes it is
Jul 5, 2012 at 3:52 UTC
I used a log type of 6 so it dumped to the event log. It generated an event id of 2020 from EvntAgent.
There appears to be a hotfix for it:
Jul 5, 2012 at 4:09 UTC
Were you able to output to a .log?
I should have clarified earlier. The issue we are experiencing is filling up the event log with "Junk" so fast we need an alternative log if possible that is just for SNMP. I could increase the event log to 1GB so we can hopefully catch the event that causes the "junk", but was hoping there was a .log file instead.
Jul 5, 2012 at 4:24 UTC
I wasn't. Log type 6 does both - text and event log - so that I could see what was happening. It never went to a log file.
Maybe try dropping the \loglevel switch to something lower - like 5 or 10 - then setting the \logtype to 4 (event viewer) will prevent your event log from filling up so fast.
Other than that, I'd try to look into the "junk" alerts. What exactly is triggering them? Is this server a trap collector? Or is it sending trap information to another machine?
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goth subculture and Darkwave culture[edit]
I removed "In many countries, the Dark Wave movement also included the early Goth subculture (trad goth). " because:
- 1. Darkwave is a music movement and it just can't contain anything but music genres.And as far as I know goths are people.
- 2.Darkwave is a part of the goth scene but it's completely wrong to say that goth scene is or was included in the darkwave movement.I mean neither EBM and dark ambient nor deathrock and positive punk are from the darkwave genres.
Xr 1 (talk) 16:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Absolute nonsense. Dark Wave is a musical movement with Dark Wave listeners. The listeners are called Wavers. And this is a culture.
- "Darkwave is a part of the goth scene". Absolutely POV and historically incorrect. --Ada Kataki (talk) 17:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Isn't it? So why all goths listen to it?? Also the Wavers, you mentioned, listen to the Darkwave music and are not part from it. Music may have its own but could not contain subculture. Also - I have added sources.Stop removing sourced information! Xr 1 (talk) 17:07, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Listen to what? Neoclassical? Ethereal? Electrowave? Gothic rock? New German Death Art? Not every Goth listen to these genres. Furthermore the musical preferences of a Goth are not relevant. Do you think, if a Goth listen to Jazz, Jazz music becomes a Gothic genre?. --Ada Kataki (talk) 17:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, not every goth listens to them but if most goths listen to them and they are connected somewhat to goth rock, they will become part of the goth scene.And darkwave is one of the first movements/genres to be in this scene! Also Etherial, Electrowave, Neoclassical are forms of darkwave! 184.108.40.206 (talk) 17:20, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- POV, POV, POV. And historically incorrect. --Ada Kataki (talk) 17:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and how you can prove it's historically incorrect?! Xr 1 (talk) 17:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's absolutly simple: Im older than you. You're only a teenie. You'd never seen the 80s. --Ada Kataki (talk) 17:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
"Some people love Bauhaus and can't stand the Sisters, that's all a matter of personal preference. Then there's people who lean more heavily towards darkwave, or ethereal, or ebm or industrial or deathrock."[1] this clearly shows that darkwave is a part of the goth scene. Xr 1 (talk) 17:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Concerning the main issue. First of all:@ ADA ATAKI and Xr: stop this childish edit war!
- I believe the problem of this dispute lies in the fact there's a misunderstanding in the fact the DW term may have different senses according periods.
- While many people generally tend to use the DW term as distinct from music like gothic rock today (since 90s) , it seems like this term may also be used as an even larger umbrella term including gothic rock. Hence maybe the reason of your disagreement. Just an hypothesis. Trying to find a solution to this stupid edit war. But there's another lattent confusion: people confuse gothic subculture with gothic rock. In a certain sense, notion of darkwave may include gothic rock, but it doesn't mean it includes gothic culture. On the contrary gothic culture includes DW.
- Frankely speaking, I never heard of a darkwave culture ( furthermore as a distinct culture from gothic CULTURE.)
- I've been into gothic music for over 20 years and I never heard or read anything like Darkwave being an autonomous culture per se (that would include Gothic subculture!) DARKWAVE IS a MUSIC not a CULTURE. But I may be mistaken. Provide reliable and verifiable sources and I'm ready to change my mind.
- If you're so sure of this Ada Ataki, then describe wavers distinct fashion, their distinct imagery, their distinct litterature, their distinct ideology,etc... And above everything PROVIDE SOURCES, AND NOTHING ELSE BUT SOURCES. I don't wanna hear of your usual personal essays. I wanna hear of Verifiable sources.
- And futile and arrogant arguments like this " Im older than you. You're only a teenie. blabla." are irrelevant here, you may impress kids with such absurd arguments in ordinary life, but this won't help you here in wikipedia. First, noone can verify your alleged age. Second because you're older and have experience doesn't prove you're not mistaken. 3rd, your age doesn't prove anything with respect to Wikipedia's policy anyway. The fact you may be older than him doesn't prove anything. Forget it, you're not into a dick contest, you're in an encyclopedia. Get over it. Claiming you know better than others just because you say so isn't sufficient to legitimate your claims. Provide sources instead. And once again refrain from making personal attacks and being uncivil. There are many articles where you've been uncivil, engaged into edit wars and making personal attacks and insults. Keep that way and all you'll get is being blocked. No matter you are right or wrong, I'm really tired to see you attack, belitle everybody who disagrees with you. Frédérick Duhautpas (talk) 20:20, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- If you don't mind, I would like to inject my opinion; and it is my opinion only. I don't want to get involved in this battle, just provide an input. I'm interested in this discussion, and think it will help to clear up some things I'm also wondering about. I'm 58 years old. I am absolutely NOT a Goth, never have been and never will be. (I know what Goths are, btw; there are several here where I work.) I love neoclassical dark wave. I listen to it all the time; that and classical. In my opinion, neoclassical darkwave has absolutely nothing -- nothing -- NADA to do with the Goth subculture. And to make the blanket assumption that everyone who listens to darkwave is a Goth is just pure nonsense. Gothic rock is a specific genre. Goths as a rule listen to Gothic rock. Goths may listen to darkwave, but that does not mean that darkwave is or has ever been part of the Gothic subculture or Goth movement. People like me resent being linked with Goths. Both types of music share similar temperaments, but darkwave refers to 'music that is more introspective, moody, emotional, and artistic -- less rock and roll oriented.' [2] Daniel Grünfeld (talk) 18:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree with you DG, sure I can understand people who don't consider themselves as goths but like neoclassical DW, wish DW was not associated with gothic culture. But no matter non goth people listen to it, culturally speaking DW IS basically connected with Gothic culture. While goths may listen to music like Industrial, dark folk, EBM, which are not primarly associated with gothic culture, this is not the case of DW. No, darkwave is culturally associated with the goth culture. I got a book which confirms this (Carnets Noirs, this book deals with the different tendencies of gothic music). Genres directly associated with gothic culture include Gothic rock, Death rock, gothabilly, Darkwave, Coldwave, most notably.
- Oh btw if you pay more attention to your source, you'll notice this phrase:
- "A fairly new term that refers to a branch of gothic music that is more introspective, moody, emotional, and artistic -- less rock and roll oriented."
- Oh and don't misunderstand me, of course DW and neoclassical are different from gothic rock. I completely agree. But when making such a reasoning you're making an amalgam between music aesthetic and cultural considerations. Culture is not music aesthetic itself. Several styles may be different and belong to a same SUBCULTURE. It doesn't need to be aesthetically similar.On a side note the term DW is an umbrella term which includes very different stylistic tendencies, including tendencies very close to gothic rock. So don't let yourself be misguided by what you know of Neoclassical DW.Frédérick Duhautpas (talk) 19:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Frédérick, I certainly don't know the history of gothic music, nor how dark wave originated. It is very likely that it did originate within the matrix of gothic music. Having read about gothic rock from Piero Scaruffi's website (whatever you may thing of him), I find the origin of DW confusing at best. While DW may have originated within the matrix of Gothic music, it has also certainly gone its own way, and left much of the Gothic sub-culture behind. In short, it has become more artistic, less rock-oriented, more introspective. Lastly, it certainly would be great to be able to engage in a constructive discussion on this topic without having to engage in flame wars; not that I'm accusing you of starting any; just making an observation. Thanks for your input. I hope to hear from you again. Daniel Grünfeld (talk) 22:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- As I already said I completely agree with you: DW, ethereal wave and neoclassical have certainly gone their own way aesthetically speaking (musically speaking if you prefer). There's no question they are different in terms of musical aesthetic and expressivity . But that's beside the point . No offense, but currently you're still making the same amalgam I was mentioning earlier: you apparently identify gothic rock (a music style) with gothic (a culture including fashion, literature, visual art, attitude, social comportement, and several different types of music, etc... ). Gothic culture CANNOT be reduced to gothic rock. It is generally admitted that gothic culture is associated with several other genres including post-punk, deathrock, coldwave, gothabilly, darkwave and even ethereal wave and neoclassical (as being subgenres of Darkwave). These music are generally regarded as gothic no matter they are obviously different. DW doesn't belong to gothic rock music, yes! On the other hand DW is indeniably associated with gothic CULTURE and world. Frédérick Duhautpas (talk) 20:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Frédérick, if you read the first few sentences of the darkwave article, it refers to DW as a movement. So, according to the WP article, DW is a movement, not a genre. Therefore it is not the same as the gothic movement, unless you consider DW to be a sub-movement within the larger gothic movement. This is confusing at best. I'm not sure how you would describe the DW movement apart from the music itself. Thanks for giving me your time. Daniel Grünfeld (talk) 15:01, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- Dear Daniel, here again I agree with you, Darkwave IS indeed a movement. Who said I disagree? But there's actually a misunderstanding going on here. You apparently confuse movement with subculture. Yes, darkwave is a movement but this is a MUSICAL movement not a cultural movement like gothic subculture. And I agree DW is not a genre. As already said by me, Darkwave is a large umbrella term refering to DIVERSE types of music. So I'm perfectly aware this is not really a genre per se, if by "genre" we expect to have common musical traits. As Darkwave covers too many various types of music to be considered as a unified genre. No one denies this here. But no matter DW encompasses various aesthetics, the term Darkwave refers exclusively to MUSIC not to other cultural aspects. So when we're talking of Darkwave we are talking of several different musical approaches, yes, but nothing else but music. Hence my unformal (and apparently misguiding) use of the term "genre" applied to Darkwave, even though I agree it is notreally a genre per se.
- But one thing is sure this ensemble of music are directly connected with gothic culture .As explained in the referential book of gothic music Carnets Noirs, in the large article dedicated to Darkwave, Darkwave is a vast movement of gothic music revival in the early 90s coming from Germany when early goth rock was in a phase of stagnation ( Carnets Noirs, "Darkwave" p.167-185) If you need quotes just ask. It is said that Darkwave is a way to make new with old through diverse types blending. The movement includes bands directly inspired by gothic rock, as well as some other bands blending goth, indus and electro, some other applying a darker touch to electronic ( Carnets Noirs, "Darkwave" p.167), some exploring blending with classical or medieval music, etc…( Carnets Noirs, "Darkwave" p.168. )
- Yes Dw is a musical movement, no question about this! but I doubt there's a distinct and specific culture of darkwave, I mean distinct from gothic culture. But If you guys think I'm mistaken. Then provide sources describing a typical culture of Darkwave including wavers distinct fashion, their distinct imagery, their distinct literature, their cinematographic references, their distinct ideology, their distinct imagery, their distinct social comportment, etc... just like gothic subculture has its own characteristic on these points.
- Seriously, the culture associated with this Darkwave is just gothic culture as far as I know. Keep in mind not to confuse music with culture. Gothic rock is not synonymous to gothic subculture. Gothic subculture emerged from gothic rock, but gothic culture is not the same thing as gothic rock. Gothic culture includes other musical styles beside gothic rock And
- Gothic culture includes darkwave even though Darkwave,as a large musical movement, may encompass (according to certain views) some more gothic oriented rock bands.
- As already said gothic culture can't be reduced to gothic rock. Yes gothic rock is the core of this culture, but gothic culture also included diverse other types of music including the musical movement named Darkwave, post-punk, coldwave, deathrock and so on.
- There are countless sources which confirm that. Darkwave IS part of gothic culture. Even the source you used in your posts confirms this: Darkwave is "A fairly new term that refers to a branch of gothic music that is more introspective, moody, emotional… and so on"
- Gothic culture CANNOT be reduced to gothic rock. Absolutely Bullshit. Read Dave Thompsons book. The first Goths were Bauhaus and Siouxsie freaks in black clothes, fishnet, pikes etc. They're Goth rockers. If they're no Goth rockers, then they're Dark Wavers or nothing. Remember, in your country, Dark Wavers were called "corbeaux", not Goths.
- Moreover is Dark Wave not a music style. There are synths, there are guitars, there are flutes and violins. Is Psyche a dark wave group? Or Joy Division? The Sisters of Mercy? Where is the stylistic connection? They all were post-punk-/wave groups. That's the only connection. --Ada Kataki (talk) 22:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ada kataki,
- I can see you're still very familiar with rules of civility and edit wars in wikipedia. Aren't you? Anyway just a tip: when you want to reply arrogantly to a post make sure to read it carefully first. Because for the moment you mostly missed the point.
- "The first Goths were Bauhaus and Siouxsie freaks in black clothes, fishnet, pikes etc."
- I completely agree:
- Who said the contrary? Not me. So what's that got to do with anything?
- Who denied goth rockers were at the origin of gothic culture? Not me
- I said gothic culture cannot be reduced to gothic rock, because other music like post-punk, deathrock, gothabilly, coldwave also belong to gothic culture. So your comments are completely beside the point. Of course gothic rock is at the origin of the goth culture.
- And yes, indeed in my country people who recognize themselves as part of the gothic culture may be called "corbeaux" occasionally, but most frequently they're just called Goths or gothics. Indeed "Corbeau" is used just as a synonymous to "Goths". Why you think you can apply such a fictive distinction between Corbeau and goth in France. Too bad! I'm very well placed to know you're mistaken. Sorry but such a distinction doesn't exist here in France. Words like Gothics, Goths, corbeaux, and even your national "Gruftie" in France are all synonymous. So you don't prove anything by arguing this. Call it bullshit, if you will. This doesn't change anything.
- Moreover Dark Wave is not a music style. There are synths, there are guitars, there are flutes and violins.
- I agree. But here again that's beside the point.DW isn't indeed a genre, it's a musical movement. But because it is not a genre but a large musical movement doesn't mean it is a distinct culture from gothic.
- I've been into gothic music for over 20 years and I never heard or read anything like Darkwave being an autonomous culture per se (that would include Gothic subculture!) DARKWAVE IS a MUSIC not a CULTURE. But I may be mistaken. Provide reliable and verifiable sources and I'm ready to change my mind.
- If you're so sure of this Ada Ataki, then describe wavers distinct fashion, their distinct imagery, their distinct litterature, their distinct ideology,etc... And above everything PROVIDE SOURCES, AND NOTHING ELSE BUT SOURCES. I don't wanna hear of your usual personal essays. I wanna hear of Verifiable sources.
- "Is Psyche a dark wave group? Or Joy Division? The Sisters of Mercy? Where is the stylistic connection?"
- What that got to do with anything? Did I say they were supposed to have a stylistic connection? No I didn't .
- As for your little edit war, you keep on going and you still keep on deleting sourced material?Fine, You've been blocked for 24 hours yesterday for that, but apparently you want some more. Fine, keep on being uncivil and engaging into edit wars like this, you're going to get what you want soon.Frédérick Duhautpas (talk) 23:12, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Goth subculture and Darkwave culture discussion (part II)[edit]
- But I may be mistaken. Provide reliable and verifiable sources and I'm ready to change my mind.
- I only have German sources. In Germany the culture was called Dark Wave Culture or Dark Wave Scene, not Goth. Goth was only a part from the Dark Wave movement. It's the same thing like New Wave and the New Romantic culture. New Romantics were a part of the New Wave movement. You cannot divide both cultures, because it was a cultural coexistence with many overlaps. It's like Sinti and Roma (Sinti are a subgroup of Roma people). --Ada Kataki (talk) 00:08, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ada kataki, I agree New Romantics is a part of new wave. Your comparison is interesting but comparison doesn't prove anything. Because New Romantics is part of new wave movement doesn't necessarilly prove gothic culure is part of Darkwave.
- Such a reasoning just doesn't prove anything. Please no personal essays, no comparison, no metaphors, JUST SOURCES.
- In Germany the culture was called Dark Wave Culture or Dark Wave Scene, not Goth.
- No offense, but once again you seem to confuse "culture" with "music". "Culture" is a term refering to a sociological movement whereas "Scene" refers to a MUSICAL movement exclusively. So "darkwave culture" and "Darkwave scene", in their strict sense, are not synonymous. Yeah sure music is one of the possible aspects of a culture, but it doesn't mean culture is synonymous to music. Culture includes music, but also lifestyle, values, symbols,literature, conventions, fashion, imagery, ideology, cinematographic references, and so on... whereas the term "scene" only includes musical aspects of a movement.
- For my part I completely agree there's a Darkwave scene, but I totally disagree there's a darkwave subculture, just like there's a gothic subculture.
- Provide sources even in German. It doesn't matter. Rules of wikipedia allow sources in non-english languages especially when they concern cultural aspects from that country. I read German, so give scans (just like you did on My Dying Bride issue or Ethereal Wave's one) that would be perfect. A quote where it reads something like "Darkwave ist eine Subkultur" as well as something like "Gothic ist Teil der Darkwave-Kultur".
- So if you can provide explicit sources like this, at least we could specify "in Germany, Darkwave is considered as a culture encompassing gothic culture. But this is not the case in France and apparently in other english speaking cultures, Darkwave is considered as a music scene only, not as a culture. I have already provided sources supporting this: Darkwave is considered as a musical movement within the gothic subculture. But perhaps it's different in Germany.
- Don't misunderstand me though, as my source notes, I completely agree that Darkwave (in terms OF MUSIC) may encompass styles like goth rock, electro, cold-wave and so on... But in terms of CULTURE per se, gothic subculture encompasses darkwave music. As my source notes, Darkwave is a musical revival of gothic MUSIC. If you need scans, I provide them. Frédérick Duhautpas (talk) 18:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- In my experience, Goths typically listen to Gothic Rock, Ethereal, Darkwave and Deathrock. To use the word "Goth" in description of music one assumes you are referring to the kind of music that a Goth will typically listen to. In which case this does not only apply to Gothic Rock but Ethereal, Darkwave and Deathrock as well. I would argue that this would not apply to Industrial as many shun that genre and EBM as well. Many I know despise metal so that's right out. But to claim that Darkwave has nothing to do with Goth is just plain foolish and ill-informed.Very Old School Goth (talk) 12:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
The first usage of the term?[edit]
In the article, it says "The first usage of the term appears to have been in the 1980s". The quote is incorrect and "appears " should not be used as is an unencyclopedic word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalied04 (talk • contribs) 10:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Why do you think it's incorrect? I own a handful of music magazines from the 80s, and in 1988 there is a mention of Dark Wave in connection with Joy Division. --Ada Kataki (talk) 22:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Dark wave is a music genre[edit]
I've changed the lead paragraph to specify that dark wave is a music genre. I'm concerned that some people might consider this controversial, as it was previously described as an umbrella term and as a "movement". The trouble is that Wikipedia doesn't recognize a "movement". While dark wave is very broad, it is still essentially a music genre. Punk rock, for example, is equally broad and has an equally diverse number of derivatives, but is still described as a music genre. Aryder779 (talk) 17:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- I don't agree with you. Dark wave isn't a music genre. It's an umbrella term that describes different post-punk genres with dark tunes and themes. A music genre is Gothic rock, Ethereal or Neoclassical. --Chontamenti (talk) 10:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- I disagree with both of you. Well, actually I agree with Chontamenti for most part of it: I agree Dark wave isn't a music genre, but an umbrella term including several different genres. I agree it includes Ethereal wave and Neoclassical music. But on the other hand I disagree Gothic rock is part of Dark wave. According to my source ("Darkwave" in the gothic book Carnets noirs),Dark wave is described as more recent movement than gothic rock. It is described as a large musical movement that emerged when original gothic rock seemed to be a bit exhausted in the end of the 80s. DW gave a new breath to gothic music in the 90s. DW approach is very diverse, it includes different kind of music that blends gothic rock/post punk inflections with differents other genres (Electronic, indus, ethereal, classical). But there's no stylistic unity that characterizes the genre. It's way too diverse to consider it as a unified genre per se.Fred D.Hunter (talk) 13:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I remember it as a genre. It is basically New wave with a dark sound. The original true gothic music was actually punk and not post-punk. Groups coming out during the post-punk era with the gothic theme were called dark wave. RottingSouls (talk) 20:26, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- My problem with Carnets noirs: The autor thinks that Dark Wave and Neue Deutsche Todeskunst would be one and the same thing. But the NDT is only a German-language genre within the Dark Wave movement, started by bands such as Das Ich, Goethes Erben, Relatives Menschsein and early Lacrimosa. In Germany, Gothic rock was a part of the Dark Wave movement. A British Gothic rock collection also agrees with me. --Chontamenti (talk) 21:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Btw: Maybe Gothic Rock, Ethereal Wave, Neo-classical, Cold Wave, Electro Wave & Neue Deutsche Todeskunst show different stylistic characteristics. But the origin of all the genres is the Post-punk movement and the Do it Yourself philosophy of the late 70s/the early 80s (Don't forget: Neo-classical artists such as Dead Can Dance and In the Nursery were formed as simple Post-punk bands). --Chontamenti (talk) 21:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
,--------> Electro Wave (Anne Clark, Pink Industry, Psyche) | | | +--------> Gothic Rock aka Gothic Wave[1][2][3] (Bauhaus, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Cure) | | | | | | Punk --------------> Post-Punk `---> Ethereal Wave (Cocteau Twins, Love Spirals Downwards, Lycia) -- | | | | | | +--------> Neo-classical (Dead Can Dance, In the Nursery, Love is Colder Than Death) <--- | | | +--------> Cold Wave (Clair Obscur, Norma Loy, Leitmotiv) regional movement in france | | | +--------> Dark Cabaret (Sex Gang Children, The Vyllies, Rozz Williams) | | | `--------> Neue Deutsche Todeskunst (Das Ich, Goethes Erben, Relatives Menschsein)
regional movement in germany with influences of gothic rock, post-industrial,
neo-classical and electro wave
- ^ Joe Asmodo, Zillo Music Magazine, Issue 2/94, p. 63, Germany, February 1994
- ^ Benoît Blanchart, Side Line Magazine, Issue 1/1997, p. 57, Belgium, Spring 1997
- ^ Evolver: Vampire leben länger: Bauhaus – Die Geschichte eines Stils
Dark wave and Gothic rock[edit]
With regard to Fred Hunter's point, the relationship between dark wave and Gothic rock seems difficult to pin down. We have German sources cited on the page from as far back as 1988 indicating that Gothic rock groups, or post-punk groups influential on Gothic rock (Joy Division et. al.) are also referred to as dark wave. Chontamenti's external link to the British gothic rock collection supports this point. The trouble is that we don't really have access to the original German sources that make the claim that late '70s dark post-punk groups were called dark wave in Europe, and we don't know exactly when this usage began. It's possible that it was a retrospective appellation after the later dark wave groups (Project Pitchfork and all). This would make Bauhaus and company precursors, rather than dark wave proper. We also have an interview with Attrition, an early '80s group, who do lay claim to the dark wave tag.
- I've added a "precursors" subsection to better reflect the sources. Unless we have evidence that "dark wave" was used prior to 1988, its application to late-70s/early-80s post-punk groups is retroactive. Aryder779 (talk) 16:09, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Besides Dark Wave there was also another term called Doom Wave. I found this term in different magazines (1984 and 1988) and also a second mention of Dark Wave in May 1988 in connection with Fields of the Nephilim and The Mission. However, Dark Wave and Doom Wave are synonyms for the same thing. It seems that Doom Wave has been replaced by the term Dark Wave in the late 1980s. --Chontamenti (talk) 14:19, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Music genre[edit]
With regard to the music genre vs. umbrella term debate: I think it's important that Wikipedia have a standard way of addressing music genres. Punk rock and Heavy metal music are both recognized as featured articles. Both articles specify that punk rock and heavy metal are genres of rock music. Punk and metal have also diversified just as much as dark wave has. Amebix and the Undertones have almost nothing in common, but they're both punk groups. Poison, Dream Theater, and Hellhammer definitely don't have anything in common, but that doesn't make heavy metal an umbrella term. The link for umbrella term indicates a fairly technical usage, and not a usual one for application to music. This article needs to be written for the general reader, and if the lead sentence begins "dark wave is an umbrella term ..." it's only going to cause confusion (see WP:BETTER for the general principles on this). It's not as if the name dark wave refers to several radically different things. It's a name for dark post-punk music, which extended in a variety of different heterogeneous directions through time, as Chontamenti's exemplary diagram shows. All the groups have common ancestry in post-punk. Aryder779 (talk) 15:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Faulty comparison. Rock music is the umbrella term. The music genres (subgenres) of Rock music are Heavy Metal, Psychedelic Rock, Grunge or Punk. The same with Dark Wave. Neoclassical is a subgenre of Dark Wave and it has not the same genre characteristics such as the subgenre Gothic rock. Pink Floyd is a Progressive Rock band and a band under the umbrella term Rock music. But Pink Floyd's music has not the same characteristics such as Judas Priest's music, because Judas Priest is a Rock band, but they play Heavy Metal music, not Progressive Rock. Do u understand? --Chontamenti (talk) 17:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Poison, Dream Theater, and Hellhammer definitely don't have anything in common, but that doesn't make heavy metal an umbrella term.
- Not really. Poison is a Sleaze Rock act. Hellhammer, Megadeth and Iron Maiden play different variants of Heavy metal. But you can find the same phenomenon in Gothic rock. Bauhaus doesn't sound like Fields of the Nephilim. And Fields of the Nephilim doesn't sound like The Cure. But in fact, all the bands play Gothic rock. --Chontamenti (talk) 17:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Admittedly, I haven't read this entire discussion page. What has stood out to me regarding the articles about genre is that they often neglect to describe historical use of the term and are written as if the various mentioned bands were actually categorized as such when they were originally active. In this article for instance The Cure was commonly referred to as "Goth" on the West Coast of the U.S. and at that time (early 1980s) I had personally never heard the term "dark wave". This article's sources appear to be weighted as German and my impression as a reader is that "dark wave" was probably a German term if it was used at that time. Mostly I wonder if it is being applied retroactively which would then make it a matter of whim to any current source-able rock critic. - Steve3849 talk 09:46, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Poison is a Glam metal band, "Sleaze rock" is an umbrella term. Aside from that, how could gothic rock be a stylistic origin AND a fusion genre? Also do you think that we should include progressive rock in the stylisitic origins? Thanks.
Darkwave& Goth Subculture[edit]
As far as I know, Dark wave is a wave of dark music, subgenres of post punk I think. Gothic rock, Deathrock, etc. And it's considered too electronic music & goth rock mixed = Clan of Xymox —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:45, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
This article discusses only one possible meaning[edit]
If anyone cares: this article discusses only one possible meaning of Darkwave, in my own experience it's been used in a few different ways (and I would guess a lot of the variation in meaning is regional). There was a brief fad in the 90s in the United States to start using the term "darkwave" because you thought the term "gothic" had embarassing connotations, consequently, a lot of us have trouble taking this term as seriously as the present article does. Earlier versions of this article (back in the days when I was contributing to it) tried to make it clear that there is no One True Darkwave. -- Doom (talk) 04:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Earlier versions are Point of View, nothing more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 12:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I know what you're talking about. Care to expand on that?
- Myself, I think that the article should lead with an acknowledgement that the term means different things to different people -- I'm not talking about pushing a point of view, just acknowledging that there are points of view. To be fair, the History section looks okay, it tracks at least some of the drift in meaning that took place, but most people aren't going to read that far. -- Doom (talk) 00:49, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
- The term means what books say (and fanzines and compilations of the 80s/90s). People's opinion is irrelevant. Dark Wave is a historical term. It contains music of the 1980s and early 1990s Goth-, Post-Punk- und New Wave movements. That's all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 18:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
- We're discussing the meaning of a term, the definition of a term. At the bottom, the only thing you have is people's usage of the term: there is no authority you can refer to to discover the one-true-meaning of darkwave. Print publications are certainly relevant, but, for example, usenet usages are also relevant. I can assure you that in the United States, the most common meaning of darkwave (no longer in use, as far as I know) is "music from the Projekt Record label", as is mentioned in the history section here. One more time: the only NPOV thing to do is to admit up-front that there are multiple, regional variations in the meaning of this term. -- Doom (talk) 05:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Doom, actually, you're currently speaking to a banned user (the IP is without any doubt Ada Kataki) which is known for his peremptory pov-pushing attitude and his recurrent personal attacks. He's the only one I know around to insist so dogmaticaly on this specific definition of Darkwave. I already showed him that there are published sources that state otherwise. But he doesn't wanna hear about anything.And he thinks the only right definition is the one he claims - a definition purportly coming from publications of his own homeland-Germany. While I'm not necessarilly saying he's wrong - he's no sick idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about- I'm just afraid he's a bit too dogmatic to understand such things like cultural relativeness and acceptions variation, not to speak notions such as dialogical approachs encouraged by wikipedia.
- Anyway, I agree with you, Doom, Darkwave has always been a very mobile notion that may differ along with different areas, periods and cultural contexts. There may be several different senses to it. In France goth-specialized published sources define Darkwave as the specific german 1990's goth renewal, bands such as Das Ich. In this definition, Darkwave is viewed as a subgenre related to the goth movement, not the contrary. (See Carnets noirs book, for example). He's the only one I know so far to claim that Darkwave would be a cultural movement including goth or postpunk. But I'm not saying this view is necessarilly wrong. I'm saying this is not the only one. Anyway I remember I asked him to provide sources saying what he claims (for example "A quote reading explicitely something like "Darkwave ist eine Subkultur" as well as something like "Gothic ist Teil der Darkwave-Kultur".) I note he never provided such sources. However I agree with him on one point, only reliable sources can be used in Wikipedia. Regarding to Wikipedia's guidelines many websites are not reliable, And people opinions are just regarded as POV. We can't use them. Alpha Ursae Minoris (talk) 10:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Why capitalize dark wave? It seems like any wave that isn't New Wave wouldn't warrant it. For being much more than a music genre, and for the same reasons we capitalize Bronze Age, New Wave makes sense. These other waves are just genres, although dark wave came closest to earning its caps. Is there something about "wave" that makes capitalization implicit? Pixel Eater (talk) 03:42, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- You may be right. A quick google books search suggests that capitalization is pretty usual in reliable sources.--SabreBD (talk) 07:38, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but as someone who grew up during the period covered in this article, this is nonsense. I literally hadn't heard the term 'Darkwave' EVER before about 5-10 years ago. All those bands would have been descrived at the time as variously post-punk, new wave, indie, or goth. If you'd said anyone was a 'waver' back then they'd have presumed you meant 'raver' and had a speech impediment. Maybe it was an Australian term, but I can ctaegorically state that this is a load of revisionist nonsense by people who weren't there and a music scene that now seems obsessed with putting every band into neat little genres for iTunes, and rewriting music history while they do it. NOBODY ever used the term 'Dark Wave' or 'Waver' back then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 15:36, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
- That's your opinion, nothing more. There are different sources from the '80s, especially from Europe. Dark Wave is definitely an '80s term. You also will find the term "Waver" in old music magazines, such as Maximumrocknroll (from the US).
- "I literally hadn't heard the term 'Darkwave' EVER before about 5-10 years ago"
- Ohhh, you're from the UK and you never heard the term before? Take a look into the booklet of the "New Alternatives II" compilation that was released in 1995 on Nightbreed Recordings, UK. Please, work with sources, not with your point of view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:37, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Requested move[edit]
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 02:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Dark Wave → Dark wave – Music genres are not capitalised. I don't see why this should be an exception. Lachlan Foley (talk) 23:15, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Comment New Wave music is an exception, which I suspect is the reason why this is capitalised.--SabreBD (talk) 23:44, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- comment "dark wave" should be a disambiguation page, instead this would be called dark wave (music genre) -- 184.108.40.206 (talk) 05:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
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Together with Tata Consultancy Services Limited (TCS Ltd), our strategic partner, we are working to target the global market with additional offerings that leverage our combined strengths and enable us to follow common best practices.
CMC has 18 offices in major Indian cities and over 150 service locations. We have a sizable resource pool of engineers trained in diverse technologies, with vast domain knowledge and varied skill sets.
We conduct significant research into emerging technologies and competence areas at our state-of-the-
CMC's wholly owned subsidiary, CMC Americas Inc, was acquired in 1991 and formerly called Baton Rouge International (BRI), before being renamed in 2003. With 9 offices in USA and servicing customers across the country, it drives CMC's thrust towards globalisation and business development in USA.
In addition to the following, CMC Americas Inc also maintains offices in Austin, TX; Los Angeles, CA; Sunnyvale, CA; Atlanta, Georgia; Baton Rouge, LA; Novi, MI; Edison, NJ; Reston, VA and Burlington, MA.
CMC Informatics UK is the branch office of CMC Limited in the United Kingdom and covers the territories of UK, Ireland and Europe. The office is based in the historic city of Guildford in Surrey, one of richest counties in the UK.
CMC's products for transport, law enforcement, banking and insurance verticals, and services in embedded technologies, IT Consultancy and Infrastructure Development Management and Outsourcing are offered through this office. The London Underground Limited (LUL), Forth Ports and TRW are a few of our well known clients.
CMC Dubai is the branch office of CMC in West Asia and serves as a front end for CMC's thrust towards globalisation, especially in terms of business development in the Middle East and Africa.
The Dubai office handles large projects for important clients like the National Bank of Bahrain and Syrian Railways. In Africa, the Tanzania Police is also handled from this office.
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