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Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:58 AM
cbayer (146,218 posts)
Liberal Catholics use election results to battle bishops
Archbishop Timothy Dolan sounded a nuanced tone on politics at a recent bishops meeting.
November 13th, 2012
Liberal Catholics use election results to battle bishops
By Dan Merica, CNN
Washington (CNN) - Emboldened by the re-election of President Barack Obama, a cadre of liberal Catholic activists and groups is waging a campaign alleging that America's Catholic bishops are out of touch with Catholic laypeople.
The Catholic bishops, who are in Baltimore this week for a quarterly meeting, spoke out against the Obama administration during the election cycle over what they said were White House violations of religious freedom.
Some bishops also spoke out against legalized gay marriage and abortion rights, positions embraced by many Republicans.
A Sunday opinion piece in the National Catholic Reporter by Thomas Reese, a Jesuit priest at Georgetown University, hammered the bishops for their public proclamations during the campaign, saying the church leaders' political strategy is not working.
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Response to cbayer (Original post)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:04 PM
Stargazer09 (1,855 posts)
1. Our local Catholic church
Always had political messages on their marquee and a dozen yard signs along the street. "40 days of life," "Fight for religious freedom," etc.
What about MY freedom from your patriarchal religion? I shouldn't have to read your condemnation of women's rights every time I drive through town.
Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #1)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:25 PM
cbayer (146,218 posts)
7. As long as they are not promoting individual candidates, they have the right to do this.
Perhaps a campaign to counter their signs is in order?
Response to cbayer (Reply #7)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:30 PM
Stargazer09 (1,855 posts)
9. Not worth it to me
We are only here due to the military, not because this is my "home." The majority of the locals happily agree with the politics of this church, so I'm just going to let them have their little signs.
I am just tired of being here, and the local church politics are just a reminder of how badly I want to leave.
Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #9)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:48 PM
cbayer (146,218 posts)
10. I hear you. I have had the misfortune of living in similar places, but am
fortunate to longer have to.
I hope you get to move on soon.
Response to cbayer (Reply #10)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:13 PM
Stargazer09 (1,855 posts)
12. Hopefully by early next year
I miss the west coast.
Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #9)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:17 PM
rug (82,333 posts)
11. I get the same feeling whenever I drive past a military base.
Response to rug (Reply #11)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:14 PM
Stargazer09 (1,855 posts)
13. Hopefully,
You don't have to drive near one every day.
Response to cbayer (Original post)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:05 PM
Raster (17,241 posts)
2. Is this the same Timothy Dolan that authorized payments to pedophile priests...
...and then lied about it?
Cardinal Timoty Dolan authorized payments to pedophile priests of up to $20,000 to get them to leave the priesthood when he was Archbishop of Milwaukee new documents have revealed.
Dolan had once described that allegation as false,preposterous and unjust but the archdiocese has now admitted that it occurred.
SNAP alleges that Dolan deliberately mislead victims about the Churchs prior knowledge of abusive priests
Read more: http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Cardinal-Timothy-Dolan-took-part-in-pedophile-priest-payoff-to-leave-church-155901885.html#ixzz2CDJ19xnZ
Response to Raster (Reply #2)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:20 PM
cbayer (146,218 posts)
6. The very same. He's a big part of the problem, imo.
Response to cbayer (Original post)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:08 PM
Raster (17,241 posts)
3. Is this the same Timothy Dolan that fights AGAINST child abuse legislation?
In a meeting with New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, Democrat, Cardinal Timothy Dolan stressed that he was resolutely opposed to the proposed Child Victims Act, which, he says, "unfairly" targets the Catholic Church.
"We feel that this is terribly unjust. It singles [out] the church and it would be, and I use the word purposefully, devastating for the life of the church," Dolan told reporters.
In actuality, the bill neither explicitly targets nor mentions the Catholic Church. However, due to the church's ongoing abuse scandals, the bill would likely cost Cardinal Dolan's diocese and others a good deal of money by making it easier for victims of pedophile priests to bring charges. The Catholic Church has been fighting to stem the losses of huge sums of money it has spent in litigation fees and payouts to victims as the ongoing abuse scandal continues to unfold in New York and around the world.
The act, which was introduced in the New York State Assembly and State Senate by Assembly member Margaret Markey and State Sen. Andrew Lanza respectively, would extend the statute of limitations on child abuse crimes by five years. Currently, victims can bring charges against their tormentors only before the victim has reached 23 years of age. The new bill would change the age to 28.
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Response to cbayer (Original post)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:11 PM
Anthony McCarthy (507 posts)
4. Fr. Richard McBrien
has pointed out that the bishops appointed by JPII and BXVI are about the worst crop in centuries. They are horrible pastors, dedicated to clerical power and hierarchical concentration of that power. They've done little but drive people off and create some of the biggest scandals in the history of the church.
Response to Anthony McCarthy (Reply #4)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:16 PM
Raster (17,241 posts)
5. Everyone wants to sing the praises of JPII, without examining his cold, calculating moves to...
...concentrate clerical power and eliminate ANY AND ALL criticism of his actions. JPII began a purge of the Curia that turned it decidedly right-wing.
Both JPII and BXVI have done everything they can and could to obsfucate any investigation into the pedophile scandals. Their actions have been shameful.
The Vicars of Christ on Earth? I think not.
Response to Anthony McCarthy (Reply #4)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:26 PM
cbayer (146,218 posts)
8. And they seem to be getting worse and worse.
Response to cbayer (Original post)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:07 PM
dimbear (6,271 posts)
14. "And those people should not be listened to who say the voice of the people is the voice of God."
Alcuin, c. 800 CE, one of the first recorded uses of the phrase 'vox populi, vox dei.'
Catholic theologian Alcuin.
Response to dimbear (Reply #14)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:10 PM
rug (82,333 posts)
15. Do you think the voice of the people is the voice of God?
Response to rug (Reply #15)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:18 PM
dimbear (6,271 posts)
16. No.
One of my purely educational posts.
Response to dimbear (Reply #16)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:32 PM
rug (82,333 posts)
17. Interesting although it appears Alcuin was correct.


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Taxpayers are overpaying for prescription drugs by at least $1.3 billion a year, and in some cases are paying 10 times what New Zealand pays for the same drugs, a report has found.
The analysis by think tank The Grattan Institute turns on its head the accepted wisdom that the pharmaceutical benefits scheme (PBS) is successful in keeping the price of medicines low.
The report finds the government pays too much for medicines compared with New Zealand and compared with public hospitals in some states that buy drugs outside the PBS. The maximum consumer price on PBS drugs is $36.10, but out of pocket costs are still higher than in New Zealand, which mandates larger discounts for generics.
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"The waste caused by Australia's bad drug deal is immense," says author
"The amount wasted every day is almost beyond comprehension: $3.5 million. Particularly when government budgets are under pressure, and demand for healthcare is rising, this money could be much better spent."
The institute says the federal government should adopt New Zealand's model. Its government puts a total cap on medicinal spending each year and has an independent expert board to set the prices government pays.
The report says the PBS pays $51.59 for a box of 30 tablets of popular cholesterol drug Lipitor. In contrast, New Zealand's agency pays $5.80 for a box of 90 equivalent tablets.
Board is not independent
The institute says a key problem is that the Pharmaceutical Benefits Pricing Authority, which sets the price the government pays for drugs, is not independent. Its board contains two representatives from the drug industry and one each from the Health Department and the Industry Department.
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"This indicates very clearly that deals being struck between industry and government are far too much in the interests of keeping the industry happy, and not in providing the best deal for consumers," Ms Bennett said.
"We thought we were the envy of the world in keeping drug prices down. How is it that we've gone from that in eight years to [this?]"
The government acknowledged the savings identified in the report were significant but defended its record on reducing the price of medicines.
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"The concept of an independent expert board and the New Zealand model of tendering is a radical departure from current Australian practice, but is worth exploring," he said.
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The report highlights some potential concerns with the wholesale adoption of the NZ system, including the fact that putting a cap on medicine spending could limit the number of key medicines on the PBS. The report notes that in NZ, fewer drugs are subsidised and they take longer to be approved. There are fears lower prices may encourage drug companies to withdraw from the market.
But the report says if its recommendations are adopted correctly, access to drugs would increase, rather than decrease. "Lower prices will reduce the cost barriers that keep some people from filling prescriptions their doctors consider necessary," the report says.
"Lower prices will also free up money to add expensive, but potentially life-saving drugs to the PBS – drugs which are not listed now."
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A publc hearing to discuss extending the contract between the El Dorado Hills Community Services District and El Dorado Disposal Services for trash and recycling pickup has been set at 6:30 p.m. on Monday, Nov. 29, at the CSD pavilion.
The matter consumed over an hour of the marathon four-hour November board meeting held last Thursday night.
Waste Connections, headquartered in Folsom, does business locally as El Dorado Disposal, and has wanted to update and extend the contract since 2008. The old contract, which everyone involved agreed was way out of date, runs through June 30, 2015.
It allowed rate increases to be considered every two years. The last increase was in 2008. The current proposal freezes the new rate for two years.
The contract extension will result in a slight reduction in the base rate, which for most residents will be offset by a $1.49 monthly fee, $1 for seniors, to participate in the RecycleBank program, which provides credit redeemable at local merchants for recyclables, which will still be picked up at the curb.
Including the optional recycle banking charge, the new trash pickup fee is between $1.19 and $1.30 higher every two months.
El Dorado Disposal spokesperson Sue Farris told the board that most El Dorado Hills families could realize $15 – $20 per month in savings from the program, which would also increase diversion of recyclables from the landfills.
The CSD is planning a media campaign and accompanying town hall meeting in January to educate residents on RecycleBank.
Board President Noelle Mattock was concerned that the proposed Cost Price Index would automatically drive future rates, whereas the current contract requires El Dorado Disposal to request rate increases.
Director Justin Masters, who sits on the Franchise Committee, questioned the math behind fuel surcharges rolled into the base rate.
Waste Connections CEO Ron Middelstaedt lobbied hard for RecycleBank participation in El Dorado Hills to be automatic, with an "opt out" option, rather than requiring each home to opt in.
Middelstaedt, an El Dorado Hills resident and local youth sports activist, argued that the contract extension and opt-out option lets El Dorado Disposal invest in the new truck technology necessary for the RecycleBank program. Each truck must weigh the recyclables.
The CSD will continue to earn a 5 percent franchise fee.
El Dorado County is in the process of mapping out a long-term strategy for solid waste and recycle collections on the west slope over the next 50 years. In August, outgoing General Manager Wayne Lowery told the board the county's plan would likely result in a joint powers group for all the solid waste franchise holders on the Western Slope, and the proposed amendments to the CSD's franchise agreement would not prohibit participation in a Regional solid waste JPA.
County Director of Environmental Health Geri Silva asked the board to delay their decision on renewing the contract until at least next April, when the county's solid waste disposal plan is due.
District 1 Supervisor John Knight was also present and concerned that provisions in the new contract might hinder the district's participation in a county-wide solid-waste plan.
Middlestaedt countered that the agreement lets the district join a JPA, and, he said, "The standardization of solid waste disposal is impossibility. El Dorado County doesn't even have mandatory garbage service; 38 percent of this county has no trash pickup. Trying to hook El Dorado Hills to El Dorado County is a mistake."
The board can opt to extend the contract after the hearing on the 29th. The contract, including an overview presentation by El Dorado Disposal, and analysis and recommendations from the acting general manager Sandy Kukola and the former general manager, Lowery, can be found on pages 141 thought 218 of the "current board of directors regular agenda meeting packet" at www.edhcsd.org/board_of_directors.html.
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This article is an open access article distributed under the terms and conditions of the Creative Commons Attribution license (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/).
The aim of this study was to compare the significance of the intestinal hydrolysis of prenylated flavonoids in
Yinyanghuo (
Chemical structures of five prenylated flavonoids in Yinyanghuo. The symbol "glc" refers to glucose, "rha" to rhamnose, and "xyl" to xylose.
Recently, some investigations on the metabolism of flavonoids present in YYH by the intestinal flora of rats [
Since intestinal enzymes and intestinal flora can hydrolyze prenylated flavonoids, and the metabolism of orally administrated prenylated flavonoids by intestinal enzymes and intestinal flora may affect their bioavailability, it is necessary to study the metabolism of prenylated flavonoids by intestinal enzymes and intestinal flora. In this study, we investigated in detail the metabolism of icariin, epimedin A, epimedin B, epimedin C, baohuoside I by rat intestinal enzyme and intestinal flora
Five prenylated flavonoids were incubated with rat intestinal enzyme and intestinal flora solution and the degradation products were analyzed with time by HPLC-UV and LC/LC/MS. The HPLC-UV chromatograms of five prenylated flavonoids are shown in
To intuitively calculate the drug metabolic rates, the logarithmic concentrations of flavonoids (Y) and time (X/h) were used to get the corresponding regression equations.
HPLC-UV elution profiles of five prenylfalvonoids and their intestinal metabolites. (1) icariin; (2) M1; (3) baohuoside I; (4) testosterone; (5) epimedin A; (6) M3; (7) epimedin B; (8) M4; (9) epimedin C; (10) M5. Testosterone was used as an internal standard (IS). M1, M3, M4, M5 were defined as the metabolites.
The metabolic rates of flavonoids by intestinal enzyme of rats.
The metabolic rates of flavonoids by intestinal flora of rats.
Our data suggest that intestinal hydrolysis of glycosides by intestinal enzymes is rapid. Even icariin was completely metabolized in 6 h and the epimedin A was totally metabolized in 12 h in incubations with intestinal enzyme. These results inform that intestinal glycosidases are brush-border enzymes. LPH is the only mammalian brush border-glucosidase, thus, we hypothesize that LPH is responsible for the observed hydrolysis of prenylated flavonoids in YYH. LPH has two distinct catalytic active sites, one for the hydrolysis of lactose and flavonoid glucosides and another, phlorizin hydrolase, for the hydrolysis of phlorizin and –glucosylceramides [
The data of HPLC-UV show that flavonoid metabolic rates with rat intestinal enzyme were higher than those with intestinal flora. Moreover, LPH is located in the mammalian small intestine, and the intestinal flora usually exists in the large intestine. After oral administration, the drug lagged in the small intestine for a long time before it reached the large intestine, so if this situation occurs as fast in humans as we observed in the rats, the role played by intestinal flora in hydrolyzing glycosides would be significantly diminished.
LC/MS/MS was used for the purpose of identifying the metabolites of the flavonoids and finding if there any other metabolites not being detected in HPLC-UV. Positive mode ESI mass spectroscopy was used in this study, [M+H]+ ions of sufficient abundance could be subjected to MSn analysis and provided much structural information. LC-MS/MS spectra of the metabolites of icariin, epimedin A, epimedin B, epimedin C and baohuoside I were obtained via fragmentation of molecular ions were used for more precise structural identification of metabolites. The chromatographic and mass spectrometry conditions were optimized for icariin, epimedin A, epimedin B, epimedin C and baohuoside I. Full scan mass spectrum analysis of icariin, epimedin A, epimedin B, epimedin C and baohuoside I showed the presence of [M+H]+ at
Mass spectra corresponding to prenylflavonoids. (
Mass spectra of metabolite of icariin.
Mass spectra of metabolite of epimedin A.
Mass spectra of metabolite of epimedin B.
Mass spectra of metabolite of epimedin C.
Mass spectra of metabolite of baohuoside I.
Based on our analysis, the metabolic pathways of icariin by rat intestinal flora and enzyme solution were basically the same, including 3-
The metabolic pathway of icariin in intestinal flora and enzyme of rats.
The metabolic pathway of epimedin A in intestinal flora and enzyme of rats.
The metabolic pathway of epimedin B in intestinal flora and enzyme of rats.
The metabolic pathway of epimedin C in intestinal flora and enzyme of rats.
The metabolic pathway of baohuoside I in intestinal flora and enzyme of rats.
Icariin is a dual glucoside, it was thought to be metabolized by hydrolysis to first produce baohuoside I after removal of 7-
Most of the previous studies consider that the deglycosylation of flavonoids may be caused by intestinal flora and hepatic biotransformation enzymes [
Icariin (purity > 98%) was purchased from National Institute for the Control of Pharmaceutical and Biological Products (Beijing, China). Epimedin A, epimedin B, epimedin C, and baohuoside I (all purity > 98%) were provided by the Laboratory of Pharmaceutical Preparation (Jiangsu Provincial Academy of Chinese Medicine, Nanjing, China). Testosterone (purity > 98%) was purchased from Sigma-Aldrich (St. Louis, MO, USA).
Eight weeks old Male Sprague-Dawley rats with body weight of 170–250 g were obtained from the SLEK Lab Animal Center of Shanghai (Shanghai, China), housed under standard conditions of temperature, humidity, and light. Food and water were provided ad libitum. The rats were fasted overnight before the day of the experiment. The procedures were approved by the Animal Ethics Committee of Jiangsu Provincial Academy of Chinese Medicine.
K2HPO4 (37.5 mL, 0.78%), solution A (37.5 mL, 0.47% KH2PO4, 1.18% NaCl, 1.2% (NH4)2SO4, 0.12% CaCl2, 0.25% MgSO4 H2O), Na2CO3 (50 mL, 8%),
After overnight food deprivation, rats were anesthetized by intramuscular injection of urethane (0.5 g/mL). An incision was made into the abdominal cavity to take out the small intestine and the intestine immediately was preserved in cold saline. The contents of the small intestine were removed by flushing gently with saline (0 °C) after being opened. Intestinal mucosa was blunt scratched. At the same time, fresh feces were obtained from SD rats. Intestinal mucosa and fresh feces of rats were homogenized in normal saline solution at the ratio of 1 g to 4 mL immediately, respectively. Ten mL of the filtrate of intestinal mucosa was mixed with 90 mL of cold saline to prepare 100 mL of intestinal enzyme cultural solution. Ten mL of the filtrate of fresh feces was added to 90 mL anaerobic culture medium to obtain 100 mL intestinal flora cultural solution.
1 mL of 2 mM icariin, epimedin A, epimedin B, epimedin C and baohuoside I were added into 9 mL of intestinal enzyme and intestinal flora cultural solution, respectively. After incubation for 0, 0.25, 0.5, 0.75, 1, 1.5, 2, 4, 6, 8, 12 and 24 h at 37 °C, the incubations were extracted by a 3-fold volume of acetonitrile. Following vortexing for 1 min and centrifuging at 15,000 r/min for 15 min, 150 µL of the supernatants were evaporated to dryness under a gentle stream of nitrogen at 30 °C and reconstituted in 450 µL acetonitrile prior to injecting into the LC/MS/MS system. Similarly, 400 µL aliquots of the supernatants were mixed with 100 µL of 100 µM internal standard testosterone which dissolved in acetonitrile for HPLC-UV analysis [
The conditions for HPLC-UV analysis of flavonoids in hydrolysis samples were as follows: system, Agilent 1260 HPLC-UV with photodiode array detector; column, ZORBAX SB-C18, 5 µm, 4.6 × 250 mm (Agilent, Santa Clara, CA, USA); mobile phase A, water; mobile phase B, acetonitrile; gradient, 0–6.5 min: 70% A, 6.5–10 min: 45% A, 10–14 min: 45% A, 14–15 min: 70% A; flow rate, 1 mL/min; wavelength 270 nm for icariin, epimedin A, epimedin B, epimedin C and baohuoside I and 254 nm for internal standard testosterone; injection volume, 10 µL. The HPLC-UV chromatograms of samples are shown in
Different hydrolysis samples were analyzed by LC/MS/MS using a system of API 4000 triple quadrupole mass spectrometer (AB SCIEX, Carlsbad, CA, USA) equipped with an electrospray ionization (ESI) source. The samples were separated on a Zorbax SB-C18 column (250 mm × 4.6 mm, 5 µm, Agilent). The mobile phase consisted of water containing 4% acetic acid (A) and acetonitrile (B). The gradient program of icariin was as follows: 0 to 8 min, 70% A, 8 to 10 min, 70% to 45% A, 10 to 15 min, 45% A, 15 to 16 min, 45% to 0% A, 16 to 20 min, 0% A, 20 to 21 min, 0% to 70% A; the gradient program of baohuoside I was as follows: 0 to 7 min, 55% A, 7 to 8 min, 55% to 25% A, 8 to 15 min, 25% A, 15 to 16 min, 25% to 0% A, 16 to 20 min, 0% A, 20 to 21 min, 0% to 55% A; the gradient programs of epimedin A, epimedin B and epimedin C were as follows: 0 to 7 min, 72% A, 7 to 8 min, 72% to 25% A, 8 to 15 min, 25% A, 15 to 16 min, 25% to 0% A, 16 to 20 min, 0% A, 20 to 21 min, 0% to 72% A, and the flow-rate was 0.7 mL/min.
For MS analysis, the ESI source was operated in the positive ion mode. The MS operating parameters were as follows: ionization voltage 4.5 kV; temperature 500 °C; nebulizer (nitrogen) pressure 35 psi; turbo gas (nitrogen) pressure 35 psi; curtain gas (nitrogen) pressure 10 psi; collision gas (nitrogen) pressure 6 psi; multireaction monitoring mode (MRM). The LLOQ for icariin, epimedin A, epimedin B, epimedin C, baohuoside I were 1.05, 1.89, 1.56, 1.86, 1.16 µM, respectively.
One-Way ANOVA with Tamhane's post hoc analysis was used to analyze data for multiple comparisons when the variance was shown to be unequal, Unpaired Student's
This paper compared the metabolism of
This work was supported by the National Natural Science Foundation of China (No. 81173557), the Leading Talent Project of Jiangsu Province Traditional Chinese Medicine (No. LJ200913), and the Foundation for High-Level Talent of the 333 Training Project of Jiangsu Province (No. BRA2011219).
The authors declare no conflict of interest.


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Is using credit reports to screen job applicants fair?
About four years ago, hiring managers began asking recruiter Chris Ball to start screening prospective employees in a new way: "They'd call up and say, 'Don't send us anyone with a bankruptcy in the past five years,' " says Ball, operations manager for the Jackson, Miss., branch of Express Employment Professionals.
Those hiring managers were on the forefront of a practice that worries some state lawmakers: employers making hiring decisions based, in part, on applicants' credit reports.
Seven states — California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Oregon and Washington — have recently restricted the practice, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, and now, Colorado lawmakers are considering a similar measure. The laws generally contain exemptions for some positions, such as those responsible for handling large amounts of cash.
The Colorado bill's sponsor, Sen. Morgan Carroll, an Aurora Democrat, says many people have bad credit through no fault of their own, such as a medical bankruptcy or an unexpected layoff. She says credit reports were never intended to be used for employment screening, and there's no connection between someone's work ethic and their creditworthiness.
"If it actually gave a clue about an employee's job skills, that would be a different discussion," Carroll says.
A 2010 study by the Society for Human Resource Management concluded that employers aren't using credit reports to pre-screen large employee pools, and found that only 9% of employers saw a good credit report as one of the most important factors in hiring, behind more important factors such as experience, specific skills and a favorable interview.
The study also concluded that the number of managers using credit reports to make hiring decisions hadn't changed "in any discernible way" from a similar survey conducted six years earlier. The Federal Fair Credit Reporting Act, first passed in 1970, requires that employers get permission from candidates before checking their credit.
But state lawmakers across the country argue the federal law doesn't go far enough in protecting the growing number of people with bad credit, and Carroll worries that employers may be creating a permanently unemployable class of people by considering credit reports in hiring.
California lawmakers late last year passed one of these laws over the objection of a coalition of business interests, including the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB), which argued that small employers need every tool they can use to make smart hiring decisions.
John Kabateck, executive director of the NFIB's California chapter, says it's still too early to say how the new law is affecting hiring. He says credit reports provide objective information about a person's past behavior.
"I think every employer has the right to know about the integrity and history of every employee they hire," he says.
Wausau, Wis., dentist and gun shop owner Frederick Prehn, 54, says he's checked credit reports of prospective employees for about 10 years. He says he's always open to understanding the factors behind poor credit, such as medical expenses, "but mostly I have found poor credit shows me a lack of responsibility."
Heather Morton, who tracks the issue for the Denver-based National Conference of State Legislatures, says lawmakers are struggling to balance the needs of employers with the need to help prospective employees caught in a "spiral" of job loss leading to foreclosure and bankruptcy.
"You can't pay your bills on time without an income," Carroll says.
Ball, the employment recruiter, says managers are much more willing to take a chance if employees with bad credit are first hired as temps. He says that gives employees the opportunity to prove their skills and trustworthiness.
Ball says he understands that hiring managers who use credit reports are trying to protect their companies from people who might be "desperate" and turn to embezzlement or theft to cover their bills. But he says he's not sure that using credit reports is all that useful: "In this day and age, it's hard to find anyone with perfect credit."
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Destination: Western Caribbean
Embarkation: Tampa
My last Carnival cruise was in 2008 on the Glory, so it has been awhile. So much has changed. We chose the Legend for the great ports (this is a fun, port-intensive itinerary) and the excellent price. We've been cruising Royal Caribbean the past several years but this cruise was a great value and the lure of leaving from Tampa (our home port) was too much to pass up.
Rather than going into minute detail about the entire cruise, this review is to let those familiar with Carnival know where the Legend falls short. Way short.
Food and Dining Room Service
I don't go on Carnival expecting fine dining, but I do expect reasonable (and recognizable) food and good service. On this cruise, the food was More lackluster. The menu has changed over the years to have a standard menu of simple food (grilled chicken, basic steak, fish) that you can get every day plus daily features. I remember the good old days when there was an appetizer, a salad or soup, a pasta course and main course, followed by dessert. I never ordered from every course, but loved the great choices available. Today's Carnival has a few appetizers, one or two salads, one or two soups, rarely a pasta (as an appetizer) and 3 or 4 main dishes each night. This wouldn't be so bad if they were good. One night meatloaf was gray. Another at my table was served undercooked chicken. Pork cutlets were almost unrecognizable.
Probably I would have excused some of the iffy food if the service was fantastic. A good waitstaff goes a long way to making the overall cruise experience. Ours was mediocre bordering on bad. In all my cruises, this is the first where I elected to reduce the dining staff gratuity.
Bread came once at the very beginning of the meal and never came again.
Water was hard to get refilled.
If you ordered an appetizer and salad, they were served at the same time with one perched precariously on the bread plate.
Main dishes were lukewarm at best.
We splurged one night and went to the Golden Fleece Steakhouse. We've done this before so knew to expect excellent food and service. The food was great - the best we had on the ship. However, our three servers managed to lose the paper with our order. Instead of just coming to us to verify, they guessed on the order and ended up serving three of the four side dishes incorrectly! I don't understand how this is even possible at the premier dining establishment on the ship. I would think that these servers are the best of the best on the ship.
We live for the awesome piano bars on Carnival. Imagine our disappointment to find that our particular piano entertainer spent more time talking than singing. When he did sing, he made each song "his own," pretty much negating the ability to sing along. By the end of the cruise, he was averaging about 5 guests at a time in this bar.
Camp Carnival
This is a very small area far forward on deck 5 (at least for the 2-5 age group, which is where my 5 year old son was). Every time we dropped him off, we were greeted not with a hello or any excitement, but rather with a reminder of when to pick him up (at least 15 minutes before the official closing time). My son had a good time here, but I felt that the counselors did not measure up in enthusiasm or friendliness to other lines.
On the child end of things, I find it a little annoying that the ship only receives Boomerang and Cartoon Network for kids. There is no looping daily movie oriented to kids and it left us with not much to watch in the stateroom (for my son). Nick JR or even Disney JR would be a welcome addition for littler kids.
Overall Ship Condition
Old-style televisions in the rooms and a bathroom light that took a full 30 seconds to come on were interesting. Our room had the most uncomfortable beds of any of our past cruise experiences and we woke up daily with back pain. Our balcony had decent chairs, but the floor was dirty and rusty and just didn't give an overall impression of cleanliness.
Overall, our vacation was a success. We wanted to get away and we did just that. We relaxed, we read, we had some great shore experiences (all but one booked independently of Carnival). We had a great cabin steward and had lots of fun with the karaoke hostess. I'm not saying we won't go back, but it won't be anytime soon. Our next two cruises are already booked and they're Disney and Royal Caribbean. Less
Published 12/30/12
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Oct 24, 2007 - Sulphur Springs and Hopkins County firefighters through the noon hour today were battling a structure fire on Live Oak Street. Their efforts were hampered when the water hydrant they hooked hoses to blew, making firefighters reliant strictly on the water in their tanks.
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Brinker firefighters were contacted to cover at the county station for about 1 1/2 hours while the county firefighters remained on scene assisting with the blaze, with their second unit ready should other calls come in.
Firefighters were attempting but had yet to locate Callie, residents Tonya and Terry Riley's 1-year-old spaniel, at 11:30 a.m. She said that she had left a roast cooking and candles lit while she left the residence to run errands. They have lives at the Live Oak Street home for 25 years.
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