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What Bruce Bird said is spot on. Now its only the cash rewards that are seen as sporting. The ACB are shamless and a bunch of old boys looking after each other. Let's not forget how long the Mark Waugh and Warne bookie affair was swept under the carpet until it hit the fan. At least India had the gall to pinpoint Azzarudin and ban him and even made it an international scandal. What I'm worried about now, is are there any other players in our arrogant world cup squad club that have been pumped up with illicit steroids or other enhacing drugs?
The golem
If Warnie had been from any other country, your question most likely would have been are anti-doping penalties really serving their purpose when a confessed user gets off so lightly? Let's stop the hypocriticism for a moment and treat our own sportsmen women with the same consideration as the rest of the world. The ban should have been for two years - My Mum gave it to me? Seriously!
Stuart B
He bought his ticket! He knew what he was getting in for! I say, Let him crash!
Leon Chandon
Baring in mind that ignorance of the law is no excuse, and that intent can be a mitigating factor, Warne is either a drug cheat or a dill. I doubt he is hanging up his Phd whilst he plays cricket. Indeed he plays it very well and seems to be one of the growing band who excel at sport but are a bit bloody thick in other areas. I also suspect there is a bit of a scapegoating going on given the bleating from Aussies over the years The game will be poorer for his absence.
John McGrath
The Shane Warne affair seems to have boiled down to Warne's inability to recognise a fluid tablet as a diuretic. He must have been cautioned many times during the regular group meetings discussing drugs in sport where the term diuretic was used, that they should be avoided at all cost, but he failed to understand what a diuretic was. Now he has found out the hard way. Does this then question the effectiveness of the group meetings? One last point not yet discussed, we are constantly urged by the Pharmacy and Medical worlds never to take other people's prescribed drugs, not even Mummy's. There's some advertising mileage in this somewhere for someone.
Rob T.
What a sook!! Take it like a man rather than like a spoilt pansy.
Max T
A poor excuse mum gave me a tablet he is not a child to take it. Drug testing in sport should be mandatory. Shane was lucky to get only a one year ban
Pamela Turner
Australia is the first to point the finger at athletes from other countries found to have breached anti-doping rules (including breaches relating to 'masking' drugs) and shout 'drug cheat'. It seems Australians don't like it when the same rules apply to their athletes. Warne got off cheap - according to anti-doping guidelines, he should be banned for at least 2 years.
John Kehoe
What could be the motive behind Shane Warne's decision to take a diuretic. To enhance his performance? I think we all know he doesn't need to. To accelerate the healing process of his shoulder? If he was going to take if for that purpose, he would have taken it in December, not when it was already on the mend in January. Could it just be possible he took it for the reasons he has stated? Is that so difficult for the Warne bashers to believe? No, he should have either been suspended for the full 2 years, or exonerated completely. As reported in the press, he was charged not for taking a banned substance (as he would have been, by his own admission, guilty), but on the more serious charge of using it as a masking agent for steroids. He should have been exonerated. He doesn't need to enhance his performance. He is already the best at what he does.
James P
Shane Warne claims he thought the tablet was a fluid tablet and did not realise it was a diuretic. If he does not know that these two are the same thing, given the education these players have on drugs in sport, he is even more stupid than history has shown.
Paolo Ricci
I have watched many a game of cricket and listened to many a broadcast and you always seem to hear the same thing, Cricket is a funny game, or in the case of a close decision The benefit has to go to the way of the batsmen. I wonder if one day the benefit will go the way of the bowler in the case of a close decision? A judge normally directs the jury, when considering the submissions from both sides, to return its verdict on the basis of beyond reasonable doubt. In this case I believe someone, other than Shane WARNE, got things extremely wrong, as there is considerable doubt in this case and enough to suggest the panel got it wrong. May be a more appropriate penalty would have been a heavy monetary fine. There is talk of considering an appeal against the ban, my suggestion would not be to consider an appeal against the ban but one to the Equal Opportunities Board based on the Trade Practises Act for the loss of income. Strange how most of the world's leading cricketers are supporting Shane, what about the rest of you. You have mine Mate. I'll train with you during the off season.
Derek Nicholson
Shane Warne is an absolute champion and because of this he has been crucified. If this were viewed in a practical and un-emotive manner it would soon become obvious that the crime and the punishment are ridiculously mismatched. The sanctimonious wankers who take the morally pure, holier than thou stance are nothing other than small minded inconsequential human beings. This is all about personalities and has very little to do with drugs in sport. Leyton Hewitt can expect similar treatment by the Australian public. Why - because he dares to be good. Warne has done nothing on or off the cricket field I haven't seen done or said on a regular basis in 25 years of playing cricket. Perhaps taking mum's medicine was a bit dumb but it certainly wasn't a hanging offense. It's likely that most of the contributors to this forum are on anti-depressants and are therefore no less liable to criticism. When Warne dies he'll be remembered, the rest of us won't. History will view this episode as being one of the lowest points in our sporting history - and not because of what Shane Warne has done but because of what has been done to him.
David Alexander
As much as it is one of the greater disappointments to happen to Australian cricket, Shane has to except the verdict and get throught the next year of his ban as positively as possible and come back and finish his career on a high note so that we all remember him for the greatest ever leg spinner of all time and not a so called drug cheat. Regardless of whether or not his mum gave him the pill, all professional sportsman (I personally after 2 years at a AFL club had at least 3 seminars regarding drugs) know the dangers of taking any unprescribed drug and although he may be guilty of only been negligent, the ACB has to implement the penalty to ensure its remains a respected governing body in world sport aswell as protecting the image of Australian sport leading the way in world sport. For them to let Shane off would have been a a fair snub to all who have worked so hard in eradicating drugs from all sport.
T Clarke
Do the crime...do the time...Shane W should be grateful he only received a year's worth.And what a dunce of an excuse as well.
At the start of every season cricketers are informed in matters relating to racial descrimination and the use of drugs. There can be no doubt that Shane Warne knew of the consequences. Unlike Samantha Riley he does not have the support of the coach since he did not approach him regarding the nature of the drug. Having his Mum as a witness and excuse is laughable and insulting to the panel. Ultimately only he can be responsible for putting the pill in his mouth.
Alfonzo Mighty
Shane Warne should think himself lucky with just a one year ban. I'm sure if he played for Thailand he would have been hung. Seriously though, how about these administrators get into the real world and allow sportsmen to take headache tablets and the like...catch the real cheats
colin makin
How can people feel sorry for Warne..?? He is (supposed to be!) a PROFESSIONAL SPORTSMAN. They are regularly coached on what drugs are good and whats not.. Come on, my 3 yr old could have come up with a better excuse.. He wanted to play in the world cup - he was injured, and his MIRACLE recovery (Ive dislocated my shoulders several times in sport) was AMAZING.Sport is not sport as it was in the 70/80's.. Thats what it was, SPORT... Now its all business, Money talks now...
Bruce Bird
As I see it, we either have a clean sport or anything goes. Sport is about people performing at their best whether they win or lose, it is not about who has the best research chemists. In Australia we seem to shame others and make blanket and unsubstantiated accusations against others, as evidenced by the recent outbursts in tennis, but make every excuse for our own sports stars - it was my mum or Joe the camera man. This is not acceptable. As in daily life, you commit the 'crime' you do the time.
Hugh Leicester
As much sympathy as I feel for Shane Warne - the man is a professional and must adher to his profession's code of conduct. although I, personally, think six months a far more appropriate penalty for stupidity.
Sharyn Roberts
People who defend shane warne's low form of life are putting them selves down to the same level. I was not surprised to see ACB defending Shane Warne. This is the same organisation which tried to cover up Shane Warne's and mark Waugh's unspeakable sins. When you have an organisation like this running the game, even the mafia looks benign. Australia is a country who talks about the bad morals of other countries. They lie, they wants rules changed and new rules be introduced. but only when it suits them. If one of the asian players commited the same thing. I can imagine what would they have said about the player. For all the bad things happened in the history of the game of cricket, aussies are on top of the lists. Clean up your own back yard first. If shane Warne has bit of dignity he should keep his mouth shut and cop it. He betrayed his own family, his sponsors, his employer and country, not once, many times. Every time he lied. Every time we want to believe. Why are we so gulible??. my mother gave it to me. My foot. He deserves the full two years. For the sake budding cricketers around the world. the game is better off without him. He is a very bad example.
Ronan Wildern
I think we have a double standard at play here. Shane W may be a drug cheat. The answer is we don't really know. I am happy to believe Shane, but he has tested positive to a banned drug, this is a fact. A fact that has been reported in the Australian media in the past as the equivalent to observing steriods. However, if Shane was a Chinese swimmer, or a Bulgarian weightlifter, would we be saying that the fluid tablet is the same as finding steriods? We are now also being told that steriods would not have helped in his recovery. If so, why are we worried about other athletes from other countries taking steriods while recovering from injury? Why did Justin Charles take steriods to recover from injury? Why was Shane taking another persons perscription medication (not a tablet from the local chemist), rather than seek his own professional medical advise? It seems to me that we are trying to bend over backwards to see this in as innocent a light as possible. We want desperately to see Shane as the victim.However, objective reasoning could easily say that Shane was under presssure, desperate to play at his peak in one more World Cup and made a mistake. To counteract the effects muscle atrophy he took something he shouldn't have. He got caught and thats the way it goes. Shane is still the great cricketing warrior! He is still a hero to us. In fact, that's why we like Shane, he breaks the rules, he takes risks. He's just not perfect. Like many of us would do, he cut a corner under pressure. Many of our political, artistic and corporate elite have done the same sorts of things, or worse.No, I don't think Shane was hard done by. But if we don't want to ban Shane at all. We decide that it is reasonable for us to accept Shane'e word, despite evidence. That's fine too. But then again, let's believe the Chinese swimmer, the Bulgarian wightlifter, the EnglishUS sprinter. Or else let us just accept that steriod use is acceptable in a professional sporting world.
Justin K
With a name like Dick Pound, how can the guy think his comments can be taken seriously. We'll see you back soon Shane, once this is put behind us.
Tony W
To me it seems to be a broadbrush approach to the drugs in sport issue. I thought that if an athlete was enhancing his strength, speed or endurance by artficial (chemical) means then that is not in the true spirit of competition. Accept the stupidity of Warnie's action, smack him over the wrist, see you in the West Indies son should have been the result. For a positive to come out of this, sporting bodies need to review how drug issues affect their sport and administer it according to the requirements of cricket, football or athletics. NOT A CODE FOR ALL as it does not quite fit. Comparing a legspin bowler to a weightlifter or cyclist who have used performance enhancing drugs is comparing apples with pears.
Phillip Wing
All high profile athletes know what they should and should not take, if they do the crime then they should do the time. Shane Warne should have known better
Julie Adamson
Shane Warne to work with St Kilda Football Club!! That's unfair punishment for St Kilda football fans.
No, sports people are not being unfairly punished by an overly harsh anti-drug regime. Professional athletes know exactly what is and isn't allowed. If they are not aware then it is negligence on their part - the information is out there. Shane Warne has no excuse. He should stop whinging and take his medicine...He isn't the only great spin bowler Australia has on offer after all.
grant peck
I believe all high Profile Sports Persons must be fully aware of the Rules and Regulations under which they play,if and when they break those Regulations they should act like an adult Person and not try to blame anyone else or the System for their own stupid Behaviour, Monte Andersen
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The one-year suspension received by Shane Warne is another gutless cop-out. Warne has cultivated for himself, through repeated stupidity and irresponsibility, a high profile as being a rascal who not only knew better than to take the pill, but who also appears, either rightly or wrongly, to have gotten off after having used performance-enhancing drugs. A mandatory two-year penalty is a mandatory two-year penatly is a mandatory two-year penalty, not a 12-month penalty bargained for by a team of QC's.
No. It is unbelievable that Warne accidentally took Diuretics. It's like George Bush claiming he accidentally pushed the Red Button. They know not to take anything like that - I don't believe Warne is telling the truth here.
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Homeowners are often worried about further collection attempts after a foreclosure has been completed. After losing their homes, they worry about seeing their car repossessed, bank accounts levied, or wages garnished. But in most cases, there is little chance of a deficiency judgment or future collection attempts due to the numerous obstacles in the path of the bank.
This is the factor that most borrowers do not consider when worrying about the possibility of a deficiency judgment. It is often not in the bank's interest to spend its time and resources pursuing previous foreclosure victims who found it difficult to pay back their original loans. It costs money and takes time to hire attorneys and proceed with another lawsuit in the court system, and there is little incentive to do so against defendants who proved they do not have the financial ability to pay a judgment.
There are at least five considerations that banks have to take into account before they proceed with suing and attempting to collect on a deficiency judgment. These considerations are as follows:
- Does the law allow a deficiency judgment?
- Was there a deficiency at the sheriff sale?
- What is the fair market value of the home?
- Is there a reason to expect the borrowers can pay?
- Is the judgment likely to be discharged?
These five issues are discussed in more depth in the paragraphs following.
The first consideration homeowners have to take into account is, does their state allow deficiency judgments after foreclosure? They should immediately look up their state foreclosure laws to find out if this is even a possibility, let alone probably. If they are not allowed, then there is no danger of garnishment. If yes, other factors will have to be met before collection efforts can resume.
Second, if the state allows a deficiency judgment, was there actually a deficiency at the sheriff sale? A deficiency is when the house sells for less than what the borrowers owe on it. If they owe $140,000 and the property is auctioned for $130,000, there is a $10,000 deficiency. Unfortunately, due to rapidly declining home values, many foreclosure auctions end with a deficiency.
Third, what is the fair market value of the home? Many courts will allow a deficiency judgment only for up to the actual value of the house. Using the example in the previous paragraph, if the house auctioned for $130,000 and the homeowners owed $140,000, but the fair market value is $135,000, courts may limit the deficiency to a maximum of $5,000. That is the fair market value ($135k) minus the sales price at auction ($130k).
Fourth, if the state allows a deficiency and there is one that is above the fair market value of the home, what gives the lender the incentive to go after the judgment? Many lenders will not bother with a deficiency judgment because they know that homeowners in foreclosure are strapped for cash. It costs more in attorney fees and court costs than the lender will ever be able to recover from most borrowers, so what is their incentive to sue for a deficiency?
The final consideration when examining the possibility of wage garnishment for a debt after foreclosure is that deficiency judgments are dischargeable in bankruptcy. If the bank gets a judgment against borrowers and tries to garnish wages, the former owners can file a Chapter 7 and have it eliminated, if they meet the other requirements for a Chapter 7 bankruptcy. So even in the worst case scenario, homeowners might be able to avoid wage garnishment.
Thus, unless many of these considerations work out in favor of the bank, there is little chance of a deficiency judgment. This does not mean that there are no such judgments, as some states allow the request for a deficiency to be included in the original lawsuit. However, it does mean that many lenders have decided not to pursue homeowners after the foreclosure is over and the home sold, regardless of whether the bank was completely paid back by the auction or not.
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2014 MXGP - Grand Prix of Finland
Van Horebeek recovers to fourth overall in Finland
Jeremy Van Horebeek only just missed out on extending his remarkable run of podium results in the 2014 FIM Motocross World Championship as the Belgian finished fourth overall at Hyvinkää for the Grand Prix of Finland. JVH made a very rare mistake that dropped him from second place to almost outside the top twenty during the second moto at the short, compact and largely flat venue close to Helsinki but rallied hard to rise to tenth position in a good âsalvage operationâ.
17,000 spectators surrounded the difficult sand where decent summer temperatures and good racing conditions made for a positive thirteenth round of seventeen in the FIM series and the MXGP premier class. Hyvinkää was tough due to the many short bumps and hard base of the sand. Some sections could be attacked in typical âsandy styleâ others required a more cautious approach.
Van Horebeek rode to second position on Saturday and for the qualification heat to ensure the same pick in the gate for Sundayâs two thirty minute and two lap motos. The Grand Prix transformed into a duel between the principal title rivals as JVH faced up to reigning champion and points leader Tony Cairoli.
The first race was owned by Cairoli. Van Horebeek remained close in the opening stages but was then mindful of the exceeding his limit negotiating a track that he described as âheavyâ. Neither Max Nagl nor Steven Frossard could come close from third position and the Belgian posted his ninth runner-up moto result from the twenty-five run so far. He was trailing Cairoli again in the second moto when a mistake caused a crash, a headache and a damaged motorcycle. He pitted to fix a bent radiator shroud and then started a recovery trawl from eighteenth position all the way up to tenth place and only just missed out on a twelfth consecutive podium celebration by just one point.
David Philippaerts took his DP19 Racing Yamaha YZ450F to eighth position overall and was the second of three Yamaha riders in the final top ten. The Italian was part of the Motocross of Nations Team Italia presentation on Saturday where he is set to take his new truck and set-up to Kegums in Latvia for the historic annual racing bonanza at the end of September. Back on the Finnish sand however the former world champion was trying to deal with the tough and sketchy nature of the track. He barrelled his way to ninth place in Moto1 and won a fiercely contested skirmish with Matiss Karro. During Moto2 he was again with the Estonian and should have scored eighth place but was relegated one slot to ninth by Ken De Dycker on the last lap.
Bike it Yamaha Cosworthâs Rui Gonçalves posted his best qualification finish of the season so far with fourth place on Saturday. The Portuguese had almost recovered from his virus suffered the previous weekend in Sweden and being a competent sand rider was relishing the prospect of attacking Hyvinkää; almost a shorter and shallower warm-up for ârealâ sand to be found at Lommel for the Belgian Grand Prix next month. In Finland Rui rode the YZ450F to ninth in the GP classification and his excellent sixth place in the second moto represented his best of the season and since joining the British Yamaha crew.
With thirteen rounds full on the championship sheet for MXGP the table currently shows Van Horebeek 62 points behind Cairoli with Philippaerts in eighth and Gonçalves in eleventh. The Grand Prix of Czech Republic at the stony and windy venue of Loket on July 27th means a trip to a favoured course for Van Horebeek and also Philippaerts and will be the penultimate meeting in Europe this year.
Jeremy Van Horebeek
âI felt good all day. I had a good start in the first moto and was with Tony all the time. I kept my speed. Second moto: good start, second again and Tony pulled away so I was settling for second again. I don't know what happened next. I was not riding over my limit and was riding smoothly. I don't know how I crashed. I was up pretty quickly but I hit my head and the radiator was stopping me turning to the left. I lost a lot of positions to come into the pits. I needed a couple of laps to get myself together but I told myself I could do it even thought the handlebars were bent and the bike was damaged. Finishing tenth is OK. It has been a bad GP. Just two more positions in that second moto and I would have been on the podium again. I lost too much time getting to the pits. Iâm not injured and thatâs important.â
David Philippaerts
âI feel good. To finish eighth overall and keep top ten in the championship on this difficult track is positive. I thought the sand was better yesterday because today it was almost dangerous and I couldnât find a solution for it. I stayed quiet in the first moto because I knew it would be a long day. I was ninth, which was OK. Somebody caught my front brake at the start of the second moto so I didn't get away well but I stayed on the inside of the first corner and came out well. I battled with Karro again and it was a good race. When Strijbos caught us I made a big mistake on the downhill; I had to shut off for three laps because my heart went through the roof. I really did not want to crash because we still have some races left this year. Anyway it is good to stay around the position we were today.â
Rui Goncalves
âYesterday was a good one and I had a good gate pick for today. I was hoping for the same start like Saturday and while they were not bad they were not the same! I had a small problem with the clutch setting in the first moto and I needed to keep adjusting in the first moto. I dropped back with some arm-pump and it was a bit frustrating because I knew I had the speed to be nearer the front. I talked with my mechanic about a strategy for the second moto and we went a bit more cautious in the beginning and I tried to focus more on my riding style and to get more speed through the corners so I would have more energy for the end and thatâs what happened. I still feel the effects of the illness but Iâm much happier with that second moto. I cannot thank the team enough for all the help and weâll move onto the Czech Republic now hoping for more good results.â
Charlier breaches the top five at difficult Hyvinkää
Warm temperatures and sunshine coated the 17,000 attendance and the shallow bumpy sand of Hyvinkää where Christophe Charlier took Yamahaâs best finish today with fifth place for the Grand Prix of Finland and the thirteenth round of the FIM Motocross World Championship. The second Grand Prix of Finland at Hyvinkää (the small venue hosted FIM MXGP for the first time last summer) brought the teams and riders to the hard and rippling sand one week after a slippery set of motos at Uddevalla in Sweden. Temperatures touched twenty-five degrees and although the short layout was not too demanding â and even very quick in places â the sand soon became a mess of short lumps and holes. This was particularly tough for the riders in the second motos. Charlier didn't start particularly well but his aggression in the opening laps of both motos helped push him into top ten positions. The Corsican was lacking decent training time in the sand but this did not dent his determination and his fourth spot in the first moto came after he tracked Tim Gajser to sixth place. After the penalisation of Jose Butron and Dylan Ferrandis for overtaking on yellow flags the Yamaha man was bumped up to fourth. In the second outing Charlier fought some late race fatigue to take tenth place on the YZ250FM. The Grand Prix was notable for his best moto finish of 2014 and his highest overall classification.
Kemea Yamahaâs Petar Petrov was twelfth but the Bulgarian could have been much further forward in the Finnish ranking. He was part of a multi-rider crash on the first corner of the opening moto and needed to ride hard from last place and a big distance adrift of the pack to arrive to twelfth. His potential was shown in the second moto where a drama-free start meant he was set to pick his way past rivals and arrive to sixth position to equal his loftiest result of the season. Team-mate Luke Styke crashed on the first corner of the first moto and was struck from behind by Viacheslav Golovkin. The section of the track was under yellow flags for two laps while the Australian was treated. Eventually he was taken away and an initial diagnosis at the track indicated a stretched shoulder joint.
Bike it Yamaha Cosworthâs Max Anstie was not present on the scoreboard this weekend. The Brit made a decent start in the first moto and was fighting Jordi Tixier for a slot on the fringe of the top five when he crashed and knocked his head. Anstie was OK but the right side of his face was swollen and bloody and he was having difficulty seeing after the area around his eye socket started to swell.
Hyvinkää was also the scene of the penultimate round in the European EMX250 series. Nick Kouwenberg rode his YZ250F to a fine third position on Saturday and then in the second sprint on Sunday grabbed a sixth place to walk the podium for the second weekend in succession with third overall.
Petrov is still the highest placed Yamaha rider in the MX2 points table with 11th position. Anstie is close with 13th. Successive races for the FIM Motocross World Championship in Sweden and Finland now means a small break in the calendar and a free weekend before the final meeting in July at Loket for the Grand Prix of Czech Republic.
Christophe Charlier
âIâm quite happy because I havenât ridden in the sand much and when I wanted to the weather was not good in Belgium. I didnât get good starts today but I could pass quite a lot of riders in the first laps and Iâm happy for that. My feeling was not great on this type of track but I was able to push hard and Iâm glad. My physical condition was a bit weak for the final parts of the races. I know if I was 100% then I could have been top five all through the motos. I like Loket, which is up next, especially for the downhill start where my 83 kilos should not matter so much!â
Petar Petrov
âThe weekend started well with the fourth place on Saturday. I was confident for the races but unfortunately I got involved in a crash at the first corner in the first moto. I had to start again at the back of the field and noticed my shifter was bent. I had to stop two times to fix it a little and only managed to come back to 15th. In the second race my start wasnât good once again but this time I managed to pass some riders in the first laps. By the time I got to sixth the gap was too big to do any better but I was feeling really good on the bike. The speed is right there but itâs just up to me to get better results.â
Nick Kouwenberg
âItâs good to be on the box again but Iâm not too happy with my performance. Saturday I wasnât feeling too fit and I couldnât follow the leaders but I knew I could do better on Sunday. In the second moto I had a bad start and tried to come forward as soon as possible. I couldnât get in the rhythm though. I was struggling in the corners, hit the berms wrong and my timing was bad. That cost so much energy and I had nothing left. In the end Iâm happy with the podium but itâs a bit bitter. Getting beaten straight up by two countrymen does hurt a little but Lommel is next and I will be ready to step it up there.â
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Subject: Re: [NC-CEMETERIES] Desecrated graves...........what action do wetake
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google the church name with county & state it is in, you may find where someone in the past did a cemetery survey BEFORE the markers were removed, check the same with a Geanological society in the same county and bordering counties, this church may of existed BEFORE the current county was created so records may be listed under the previous county
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Subject: [NC-CEMETERIES] Desecrated graves...........what action do we take
My Great Grandparents are buried at a church cemetery in Union County, NC.
Their graves are on the edge of the cemetery, where a wagon road goes
around the cemetery, I assume for the hearse to drive. Over the years their
graves were driven across and their headstones were destroyed. We know
about where they were. Do we have any recourse in getting the church to
replace the headstones that have now been removed and no maker is even their to
show they are buried there??
I have personally written the church several times and they have not
responded. We do know that they allowed a lady to take the cemetery records
home with her so that she could compile them into a book. Well her house
burned and the only copy of those records was destroyed. It's like a bad
comedy of errors on their part.
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What are people thinking about the 535 v 550?
I have driven the 2010 535 and love it. One thing that seems better with the 535 is that the maximum torque is accessed at lower RPMs than the 550. It seems like this might be better for around town.
But the 550 seems like it will be a little quicker.
Is there anybody out there who has spent a lot of time in recent versions of both the 535 and 550?
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If price is no object, which would be more fun to drive? For what reasons?
I spent time in both 2011 versions 535i and 550i.
I thought the 550i around town was slower, w/ less pickup. More difficult to drive. Once the engine is rev'd up and going, however, it is a cannon.
The 535i had lots of pickup getting around town. Getting on the highway, it was so smooth that I was at 100 mph and thought I was at 60 mph. The 550i can punch up faster to 100 mph from 65 mph, but it takes a rather deliberate push of the gas and there is an initial short delay to get the rpm's up and get into the right passing gear.
The torque on 535i is better at low RPM, actually it's a big difference. It's hard to get direct comparisons from BMW on both engines, but I was able to see the 535i torque curve on the non-USA website in an animation. I have the 550i chart in a GT book. The 535i sure enough gets up to full torque just above 1000 rpm, where 550i needs to get up north of 1750 rpm's. The 550i being heavier doesn't help matters here. You have to get the 550i up to speed and rev'd to get the benefit.
The 535i seems to take good advantage of the 8-speed transmission and is impressive. I speculate that's why they showed the car off to the press with the 535i.
If unsure, test drive both.
I test drove both the base 535i without the sport, dhs and IAS, and a fully loaded 550i. The two are completly different beasts. The 535i has a lot of low end torque and feels smoother in the city. The 550i on the other hand will eat the road when pushed. The handling on the 550i was exceptional because of the sport+DHS. I pushed a 40mph curve at 70 and the car was solid begging me to push harder...
I did not get a chance to drive the 535i with sport+DHS, but I assume it will be a good mix smoothness, comfort and handling.
For something more fun to drive I would pick the fully loaded 535i.
You'll also get better gas mileage with the 535. The downside is the possibility of failure of the high pressure fuel pump (HPFP).
The throttle response in the 550i with sport package is, to my understanding, programmable for each suspension setting. The new engine has around 450 lb ft of torque at around 1750 rpm which is far better than my 4.8 liter non turbo V8. With the proper rapid throttle response setting it will make the 535i with only 300 lb ft of torque, even if it is at only 1200 rpm, look like it is standing still off the line.
So, I suggest that anyone doing a first hand comparison test of the 535 and the 550, first make sure the throttle response on the 550i is set to maximum. :thumbup:
550i final drive 2.81:1
535i final drive 3.06:1
Gear ratios are the same.
Looks like a 535i with 550i or M535is badges is in my future.
the 550i any day of the week,
as usual the 535 is allways going to be the female version of the 5 series, i.e athletic, but lacking of that never ending power of a v8, with a dinan tune/reprograming the 550 will produce about the same performence numbers as the currrent M5.
the new 550 is a sleeper monster, cant wait to see a dinan, trounce a camaro or mustang,
when my warrenty is up on my 06 650i, in a couple years, andd dinan has the software out for the 550, im all going to upgrade to the 550, i would with a 6 series, but at that point i am assuming they are still going to be retardedly overpriced
What he said:thumbup: I know first hand;)
I love my 535, and I think it has wonderful accelleration, efficiency, balance, etc., etc.,
But there is no replacement for displacement. No 5 is a drag racer, so, IMO, how fast it gets across the street is irrelevent; 5 drivers just don't drive like that. But, take it on a twisty and exit a corner? Take an uphill on-ramp with a left hand sweeper?
The 550 will do more MPGs (miles per grin) than the 535.
drove both! and despite a lover of sports package, walked away, enjoying 535i! 550i, kinda felt heavy, while 535, zippy! imo
Maybe the gurus can clarify for me a bit. I keep hearing that 535i gives more torque @ lower rpm (400Nm from 1200-5000rpm) and 550i's peak torque comes at higher (and narrower) RPM range (600Nm, 1750-4500rpm). But looking at the torque curve, the 550i is giving out 400Nm of torque starting from 1000rpm already, increasing pretty much linearly to 600Nm@ 1750rpm. Why would people consider that the 535i gives out more low-end torque?
The Torque curve I am looking at on the 550i motor shows torque going from 350 ft-lbs (475 NM) at 1000 rpm's to 450 ft-lbs (610 NM) at 1750 rpm, then flat to 4500 rpm, then descending down to 320 ft-lbs (430 NM) at 6500 rpm's.
The 535i obtains peak torque 300 ft-lbs (400 NM) at 1200 rpm and is flat until just above 5000 rpm's, then declines to 260 ft-lbs (350 NM) at 6500 rpm's.
(I'll correct my previous post)
2 more factors:
Weight. The 550i engine has to push more weight (~400 lbs).
Timing. The N55 (535i) engine seems to respond faster with the valvetronic and different turbo config (twin scroll) to achieve peak torque. It's a whole half second faster to achieve peak torque compared to prior N54 engine which doesn't have these advances. Not sure how it directly compares to 550i N63 engine which does not have valvetronic or twin-scroll turbo.
Also, as richschneid posted, the programmed timing settings can make a difference depending upon the mode.
The flatter torque, quick response, and lighter weight of the 535i makes it no slouch on performance.
Some interesting posts on the engines and torque:
So is it ok to assume that the 550i will have roughly 376 lb-ft torque @1200rpm (25% more) to push 290lbs (about 7%) more weight (4376lbs vs 4090 lbs).....
I would've thought the pretty much the whole torque curve of the 550i is significantly above the 535i engine. Where can I find the 535i torque curve? i can't find in the catalog.......
I just drove a 550i SP with all the fruit, and a 535i with no SP. The 550i was definitely faster at all revs/speeds. It's just that the 535i sounds more frantic as it's engine seems more vocal. It's amazing how much cheaper the 535i feels without the multi contour seats and thick rimmed sports steering wheel. Basically everything you are touching feels less substantial. I definitely recommend ZSP.
The 535i's performance is excellent 90% of the time, 5% it is adequate, and 5% wanting. The 550i is likely wanting only about 1% of the time. Whether the difference is worth it to you, is of personal choice. A very nice piece of kit. I didn't even bother driving any of the competitors (IS, A6, E350 - all seemed non SP versions).
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get the 550...We tested both...They are a bit different. the 550 is more beastly. Once she got into the 550, my fiance said the 535 was out of the question, so thats the route we're going...just dont go for a 528
As stated earlier the difference between the transmission modes - drive vs. sport - is very, very, noticeable. So be sure to try both modes. As with most BMW's the car drives better once the engine starts to properly break in.
One quick observation was the 550I exhaust levels or lack thereof are basically the same as the F07 and F01. I was thinking they may have tuned the F10 550 similar to the X6 5.0which barks like a N/A V8 - oh well:rolleyes:
IMHO, the 550i is a bit of an anachronism. On the one hand, it is extremely capable - more capable than speed limits and road conditions allow (at least in the USA). To a lesser extent, the 535i is as well.
However, you may say that you can use this on a track. Which is also strange. Since a lot of things on the 550i go against it being a strong track tool - like it's weight, lack of LSD, electronic controls that iron out the predictability near, at and over the limit etc.
So if it's overly adept for public roads, and underwhelming on the track, what's left? The only thing left that I can think of is that it's a great extension of a person's success. Like traveling first class when coach will get you there just as quickly and safely. And what's wrong with that?
Traveling first class IS a LOT nicer than traveling coach. Sorry.
Analogies aside, both cars are extremely capable at doing the same thing, and have near enough the same technological and interior features, except for the engine. Personally, I'm leaning more for the 550i, more as a change (from my 335i/535i) and as a status symbol (being very honest here). I'm going to no way utilitze the 550i's potential - or really get anywhere near it. I think 95%+ of purchasers would see minimal real world driving benefits of the 550 over the 535. The 535 is the best value F10 in my book - by a wide margin.
I'm also looking forward to the "first class" ventilated seats and the comfort mode when I want to just relax over the bumps and imperfections.
These are what ultimately distinguish a BMW, the combination of sports car perfomance and "first class" luxury. You will love the difference in refinement and luxury of the F10 compared to your 3 series. I am always amazed at the difference between my 6 and the 3 series loaners I get when I bring my car in for service. :)
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