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Subject: [APG] The business aspect of genealogy
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:07:46 -0500
Dave Ramsey spoke to the issues of getting a business started today
during his radio show. He said to write a business plan, and read, read,
read everything you can find on business topics. He recommended
Guerrilla Marketing,Who Moved My Cheese, and several others [I was
driving or would have written them down]. Two I've found useful are
"Consulting for Dummies," and the FGS book on design for the non-designer.
I've found the Small Business Administration state websites [check out
Missouri] to have plan outlines and suggestions for the novice
entrepreneur. Join your local Chamber of Commerce. That's where I get my
dental insurance, and used to get my health insurance. I got an
accountant to help me set up my business software. I have a business
website with blog attached, thanks to Linda Geiger and Sylvia Rankin. I
list my services everywhere I can, including putting my business cards
in the local Register of Deeds office.
Craig R. Scott taught me about multiple revenue streams so I research,
write for the popular genealogical press (which pays for my words), I
lecture, and last year self-published my first book, which is now being
revised for a second printing. I have six more books in various stages
of preparation.
Due to health issues, I only work part-time, but make a small profit
every year, after covering all my expenses, including my continuing
education, and equipment upgrades. I do have an outside income upon
which I live. My government retirement isn't lavish, but it does keep a
roof over my head, etc.
my 2 cents worth
Mary Clement Douglass
Your Kansas research specialist
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Feature: Going Online With a Cellular Network
When you're on the go with your notebook, you're not always near a Wi-Fi hotspot. And it's not always convenient to make a dial-up connection. (I'd argue that slow dial-up connections are never convenient.)
That leaves you with one other option for Internet access: A wireless wide-area network, or WWAN, such as a cellular phone network. Most cell-phone service providers also offer wireless data options for notebook users. Here's a look at your choices.
Use Your Cell Phone as a Modem
Depending upon your cell phone and wireless service plan, you may be able to press your cell phone into double duty as a wireless modem for your notebook.
In this regard, a number of readers have extolled the virtues of Verizon Wireless. "I live in a rural area not wired for broadband," writes Kevin McCluskey of Melfa, Virginia. Rather than relying on dial-up, Kevin uses his LG Electronics Vx6100 cell phone as a modem. The phone connects to his notebook via USB cable and VZ Access Manager software, which are included with the Verizon Mobile Office kit ($40).
Kevin is on the Verizon NationalAccess 1000-minute calling plan. There's no requirement or charge for data services in addition to the calling plan, and Kevin doesn't have to pay an ISP a monthly fee for Internet access. The connection is "faster than dial-up but slower than DSL," Kevin reports.
Recently, I tested Verizon's Mobile Office kit with an LG VX7000BK cell phone connected to a NationalAccess plan, and I recommend it. Initial setup of the software and connection cable took about 20 minutes. The VZ Access Manager software, which I installed on my notebook, is intuitive, and it displays helpful information such as wireless signal strength and the duration of a connection. Another utility included with the kit, Fourelle's Venturi, helped speed up my connection.
As Kevin noted, the connection speed was noticeably slower than DSL but a little faster than dial-up; Verizon Wireless advertises the typical speed as 60 to 80 kilobits per second.
There are a couple of downsides, though: The Mobile Office kit doesn't let you wirelessly connect a Bluetooth phone as your modem, and it works only with selected cell phones.
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Your other options are to buy a notebook equipped with a built-in WWAN adapter or add the capability via an adapter card.
Sony is the first major computer maker to offer WWAN as an integrated feature in notebooks. The company's VAIO T-Series portables allow you to go wireless using Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, or Cingular's EDGE ("Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution"). T-Series prices begin at $1950. For a look at one of the first VAIO T-Series notebooks, read Kalpana Ettenson's May 10, 2005 Today @ PC World entry.
Several cellular service providers sell WWAN notebook adapters. The adapters slip into your notebook's PC Card slot and enable you to connect to the service provider's data network.
Cingular sells two WWAN adapters: the Sony Ericsson GC83 ($150, or free with a new two-year service contract), and the Sierra Wireless AirCard 775 EDGE PC Modem ($50, with a new two-year contract). Both work on Cingular's EDGE/GPRS network. Cingular offers Data Connect plans that begin at $20 per month for 5MB of data transfer and top out at $80 per month for unlimited data. You'll get the fastest speeds, about 100 to 130 kbps on average, in areas where EDGE service is available. Otherwise, expect up to 50 kbps on the slower GPRS network.
Sprint PCS offers two cards: the Sierra Wireless AirCard 580 and the Novatel Wireless Merlin S620. Recently, both were available free after rebates, which requires signing a two-year contract and going for Sprint's $80-per-month unlimited data plan. The Sprint PCS cards work on the company's high-speed EVDO (Evolution Data Optimized) network as well as its older CDMA2000 1x network, according to the company. A 40MB data plan costs $40 per month. EVDO speeds, where service is available, are about 400 to 700 kbps, while data service on Sprint's widely available CDMA2000 1x service is at about 56 kbps.
At Verizon Wireless, your WWAN card choices are the Kyocera KPC650 and the Novatel V620. Recently, each were available for $70 with a two-year contract. Both can connect you to Verizon's BroadbandAccess service, which promises data transfer rates of 400 to 700 kbps (available only in certain markets) or on NationalAccess, which offers 60 to 80 kbps. The only available service plan costs $80 per month for unlimited access.
T-Mobile offers the $200 Sony Ericsson GC79 card for use with notebooks on the T-Mobile GRPS Internet service. The service costs $30 per month for unlimited data transfer at about 56 kbps.
A recent check on Nextel's Web site, which is merging with Sprint, turned up no WWAN cards or data plans for notebook users.
The Bottom Line
If you only have occasional need for WWAN Internet access, using your cell phone as a modem makes the most sense because it's the least expensive option. If your cell phone is supported, try Verizon Wireless's Mobile Office kit. Or check to see if your current service provider and cell phone will enable you to make an Internet connection from your notebook. Some Bluetooth phones, for example, can serve as wireless notebook modems.
Die-hard mobile professionals should investigate what their current service provider offers in terms of monthly data plans and WWAN adapters.
If you're in the mood to change, consider Cingular if you want a variety of data plans to choose from or Verizon Wireless if you want the fastest WWAN speeds and live in one of the 30 Verizon BroadbandAccess markets.
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What's been your experience using a cell phone as a modem? Do you go online via a WWAN adapter and service plan? Tell me about it.


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"The voice in my own head was never this hip. It's Keithian to the tenth degree! Even after reading the book I can go back and listen to Joe again and again... poetry"
- JIMMY VIVINO, band leader/MD of the Basic Cable Band on THE CONAN O'BRIEN Show, May 2011.
"I had already read Life and I didn't really expect the revelation that the audiobook has to offer. I listened to it continually on tour and was drawn deep into that far away world of Keith and the Stones. Johnny Depp's interpretation was expectedly great, and I thought, how can anyone follow that? But Joe Hurley carries on superbly, in a grand gritty style that leaves no question that he is well familiar with that hard road that Keith traveled down. From Keith's acoustic songwriting to the excitement of the Stones on stage, and from the shrieking damp clubs of London to the tangles with the law, you are there with Keith because Hurley makes it so."
- R&R Hall-Of-Famer Dennis Dunaway, Alice Cooper Group. Co-writer of 'School's Out' & 'I'm 18'
Keith Richards & Joe Hurley with one of Life's Audie Awards, for " Audiobook of The Year" . Keith has been deservedly winning loads plaudits and prizes for LIFE, incl the recent Norman Mailer Award. Pic taken during rec session for Keith's X-Pensive Winos album.
Photo by Jane Rose.
"I was so happy and astonished when Joe Hurley's audio narration of Keith Richard's book Life began. Hurley is GREAT at getting Richard's voice. He has all this nuance and humor and understanding, and he got the tone exactly right in lots of tricky spots. He gets jokes across that might not seem funny if you were reading the words - he really gets it. I was so amazed at how much he packed into his performance of this material. In fact, when the real Keith Richards reads the end of the book, I missed Joe's version of Keith Richards - yes, I thought Joe Hurley was better at being Keith Richards than Keith Richards was."
- JULIA SWEENEY BLUM- SNL , 'Pulp Fiction'
"Hearing LIFE on CD, authentically portrayed by Joe Hurley, I felt as though Keef the Riff himself was sitting beside me in the car! LIFE is rife with all the colors of Rock & Roll, and Hurley tells the story utilizing every shade of the rainbow.
- Big Jay Sorensen, WCBS-FM 101.1 NYC
"Life is Great!"
- Adam Boretz, PUBLISHER'S WEEKLY - 5/31/2011
"I'm so very proud to be a part of the team behind Audiobook of the Year. It was a rare privilege to bring together such iconic legends - brilliant storytellers - and have the project come together as a magnificent, historical audiobook."
- Hachette Publisher Director ANTHONY GOFF
"Life was and will always be a special project to all who worked on it, (lived it, as it were). Joe, Johnny, and Keith were spectacular and I am grateful for all their hard work, long hours, and dedication to this title. The love and respect for Keith and his life are palpable through out the audiobook."
- Director of Production MICHELE MCGONIGLE
For The Record - The ONLY quote Hurley gave on LIFE's Audie Wins, was to Publishers Weekly, as seen in the article here.
NYC Singer Joe Hurley Breathes LIFE into Rock Legend's Autobiography
Joe Hurley, Johnny Depp and Keith Richards narrated the audio book of Keith's LIFE , released by Hachette, November 16, 2010.
5.25.11 - By John Florian, VoiceOverXtra
(VOXtra) - Life, the Hachette audiobook, was named Audiobook of the Year Tuesday night at the Audie Awards Gala - an apt winning title for the lively, elegant evening at the TimesCenter in New York City - the annual "Oscars of the audiobook industry" event sponsored by the Audio Publishers Association (APA).
Drawing more than 1,100 entries this year, the Audies is the only awards program in the U.S. devoted exclusively to audiobooks and spoken word entertainment.
To applause, whoops and hollers, narrator/singer Joe Hurley and producer/director Michelle McGonigle (pictured right) accepted the award for the audiobook of the Keith Richards book, which was also read by Johnny Depp and featured Richards.
Moments earlier, Alfre Woodard was honored as best Solo Narration - Female, for her reading of Glorious, and Alan Cumming won the best Solo Narration - Male award for his reading of Zorgamazoo.
And the award for Distinguished Achievement in Production went to Here in Harlem: Poems in Many Voices, a Live Oak Media audiobook produced by Arnie Cardillo and directed by Robin Miles.
Hosting the presentations, Adriana Trigiani - the best-selling author of 13 books and writer for television and film - proved she could add stand-up comedy to her credits, stitching the audience with laughter.
Singer/songwriter Joe Hurley (l) and producer/director Michele McGonigle of Hachette Audio pose for the camera at the 16th Annual Audie Awards held in New York, May 24th, 2011. Hurley accepted two awards for "LIFE" which took home the top award of the evening, "Audio Book of the Year.
LIFE was narrated by Hurley and Johnny Depp and released by Hachette Audio. The audio book captures the rock-n-roll spirit and life of Keith Richards. LIFE competed against The Woody Allen Collection and The Red Pyramid for the prestigious award.
"Given the choice between reading Keith Richards' memoir LIFE or listening to Johnny Depp, Joe Hurley, and Richards breathe LIFE into my ear, there's no contest: The rasping, growling, low-down audiobook is where I want to be, with Johnny, Joe, and Keith contributing their own singular infusions of soul and swagger to an already righteous read..."
"Joe Hurley,who narrated the critically acclaimed Keith Richards' autobiography LIFE with Richards and Johnny Depp, accepted the prestigious 'Best Audiobook of the Year ' Award at the 2011 Audie Awards Ceremony in NYC last week.
For anyone who has heard Hurley sing or speak, the choice to have him voice this book is obvious. Every crack in his smoky and deep register hints at the decadence and seen-it-all swagger that Richards embodies.
As a singer, songwriter, actor, playwright and voice-over artist, Hurley is a creative dynamo who also leads Joe Hurley & the Gents and Joe Hurley and Rogue's March. He is the founder and curator of the Allstar Irish Rock Revue, a musical/literary homage to the Great Irish Songbook celebrated annually around St. Patrick's Day.
The secret greatness of this book is Joe Hurley, who narrates 70% of it. Johnny Depp reads a few of the first chapters and a few of the last chapters and he is good, but Hurley is great. In fact, Hurley is better at portraying Keith Richards than Keith Richards! (Richards reads the first and last chapters.) This audio book is 23 hours long. I alternated listening to it with play lists of Rolling Stones songs I love.
New York based pop singer and songwriter, Joe Hurley, who narrated the critically acclaimed "LIFE" with Keith Richards and Johnny Depp, accepted the prestigious Best Audio Book Of The Year Award at tonight's 2011 Audie Awards Ceremony in New York City. "LIFE," the audio book released by Hachette Audio, captures the rock-n-roll spirit and life of Keith Richards and is narrated by Hurley and award winning actor Johnny Depp. The Audio book has won accolades since its release including New Yorker Magazine, Amazon's Best of 2010, Publisher's Weekly and numerous celebrities… More here.
During a recent week long road trip, I listened to Life by Keith Richards. The audio book is twenty CDs in length, unabridged. I thought it was start-to-finish terrific. I finished it in five days. Felt sad when it was over. Life is one of those books you never want to end. I guess in a way it won't because Richards' story is one that will stay in my head forever. Hurley and Depp's narration are deserving of the Audie Award... More here.
Thanks to the power of the Internet and my new blog I have a cool (and famous) new facebook friend. Joe Hurley narrated the audio book Life by Keith Richards. I wrote about it last week (see previous post). Life won the prestigious Best Audio Book Of The Year; 2011 Audie Awards. Hurley accepted the award (Life won two) at the ceremony in New York City. "Helluva joy ride" is how Hurley described the privilege of narrating the Keith Richards autobiography. "Helluva joy ride" is how I felt listening to him read it.
Just how good is Hurley's narration? Jimmy Vivino (band leader/music director of the Basic Cable Band on TV's Conan) put it perfectly. The voice in my own head was never this hip. It's Keithian to the tenth degree! Even after reading the book I can go back and listen to Joe again and again… poetry.
"You thought that Keith Richards wouldn't remember anything, how wrong you were. The audio book edition is over 23 hours long, incredibly read by Johnny Depp and Joe Hurley."
NYC 4/27 - APA Announces Finalists for Most Prestigious Audies Awards
The Audio Publishers Association has announced three Audies finalists for the prestigious Audiobook of the Year Award. The three titles in the running for Audiobook of the Year are:
Life, by Keith Richards, narrated by Joe Hurley and Johnny Depp.
The Woody Allen Collection, written & narrated by Woody Allen
The Red Pyramid, by Rick Riordan, narrated by Katherine Kellgren, Kevin P. Free
The winners will be announced at the Audies Gala Awards Ceremony on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 at The Times Center in New York City.
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Amazon have announced their 'Best of 2010' . LIFE is the #1 audio book of the Year !
Joe Hurley, Johnny Depp and Keith Richards narrated the audio book of Keith's LIFE , released by Hachette ,November 16, 2010.
"Johnny Depp and Joe Hurley capture Richards' rock 'n' roll spirit in a wise, charming, and textured narration of the famed guitarist's memoir.Tracing Richards's trajectory from boyhood in England through the formation of the Stones to the band's rise to world domination, this audiobook is chock-full of frank revelations and enlightening stories behind the music. The three readers do superb turns... Hurley captures the voice of Richards throughout, narrating in a gritty growl that is spot on. And sections read by Richards are a real treat; his raspy voice is unmistakable and haunting. A Little, Brown hardcover. (Oct.) (c) Copyright PWxyz, LLC. All rights reserved
"Life (Hachette Audio) by Keith Richards, read by Johnny Depp, and by singer-songwriter Joe Hurley and by Rollling Stones co-founder Richards himself — it takes all three since this boisterous, engaging memoir fills 20 CDs. Who knew Keef remembered so much?"
Revealing, lighthearted, candid beyond expectation, guitarist Richards also claims remarkable recall. He takes us from English childhood though the Rolling Stones' juggernaut to his current, hard-won sobriety. Richards is also fair -- never taking potshots -- but fearless in describing the dirty biographical details, his and others. Though well-written, the production is strange, as Richards opens and closes the audiobook sounding like Captain Jack Sparrow, while Depp is surprisingly soporific. Thankfully, a very talented Hurley reads the bulk of this with a rough British accent and lots of brio. Grade: A-
'It might be impossible to find a man who's done as many bad things in his life who is as darn likable as Keith Richards. Much of the Rolling Stones guitarist's biography has already been detailed in other reviews and articles (the snipes at Mick Jagger, the drug binges, the death of his infant son Tara), yet there is still much to discover and enjoy in the audiobook, read by Johnny Depp, growled by Joe Hurley and intoned by the man himself. Life is a fun listen even for those who aren't Stones aficionados or even tremendous rock fans, although some perfunctory knowledge of the Stones' hits will enhance appreciation for Richards' musical digressions. Listening to Life is like sitting next to the most interesting man at the bar for several hours and living vicariously through him — only without the hangover'.
Check out the interview/feature of Joe Hurley in AudioFile Magazine. The magazine talks with Joe about his work narrating Keith Richards' memoir, Life.
...Joe Hurley, on the other hand, takes on the spirit and soul- with extreme relish, might I say?- of every character he voices. Texan, New York African-American, South American, German female...doesn't seem to matter. Listening to Hurley is like listening to an old-fashioned radio drama.Lush listening- even if you are not a Stones fan.
The narration for this 20 CD audiobook is provided by none other than Captain Jack himself, Johnny Depp. Rocker, balladeer, actor Joe Hurley also does some of the reading with his lovely Irish(y) gravelled voice. Their vocals along with the immediately recognizable tones of Mr. Richards give a fantastic feeling to this very in-depth telling of the LIFE and times of this rock and roll legend.
It was a brilliant move to get Johnny Depp and Joe Hurley - they made the audiobook version.
4.5 stars out of 5
LIFE is an unabridged presentation on 20 CDs of Keith Richards' musical heritage, is written by Keith with James Fox, and receives here a powerful reading by Johnny Depp and Joe Hurley. Any who love rock music in general and the Rolling Stones in particular will find this an unusually well detailed survey of Keith Richards' life and his experiences with the band. No music collection should be without this hard-hitting audio version.
LIFE, The AudioBook. Read by Joe Hurley, Johnny Depp, and featuring Keith Richards.
This memoir by Rolling Stone guitarist/songwriter Richards is one of the most entertaining rock autobiographies in recent years.
Musician Joe Hurley and actor Johnny Depp share narration duties, each convincingly producing a range of voices and channeling Richards's cool and cocky charm. Richards himself opens and closes the story. Highly recommended for adult listeners interested in Richards's experiences with fame and fortune and in the Stones' genesis, early years, inner workings, and creative growth. [Includes a bonus PDF of photos; the No. 1 LJ and New York Times best-selling Little, Brown hc also received a starred review, LJ Xpress Reviews, 12/17/10.—Ed.]—Douglas King, Univ. of South Carolina Lib., Columbia
Life (Hachette Audio): Life is certainly an appropriate title for Keith Richards' long-awaited autobiography. From humble beginnings through the early years of the Rolling Stones, narrators Johnny Depp and Joe Hurley make the most of the rich material, creating a listening experience that is both evocative and provocative. Richards himself makes an appearance, not only with his voice, but with his equally distinctive guitar


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I don't think so.
McKeown isn't quite dynamic enough, imo. He's more of a Ryan Suter type.
I think Ekblad has a higher offensive ceiling as well as a size/physicality package that McKeown can only dream of.
People are raving about his +/- but I wonder how deceiving that is playing on the Frontenacs. Those that watch are saying he's playing some outstanding defensive hockey. But absolutely, he doesn't possess the physical tools that are going to be the gap he can't bridge between their two stocks.
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I haven't been following this years draft class that closely but I haven't noticed any big centers at the top end of the draft. Dal Colle and Virtanen would be nice along the wings but I don't see us drafting another winger. Anyone know if these guys project to be centers? Or am I missing anyone?
I'd say you're looking at Dal Colle and shifting him back to center. He's been playing LW and sparingly at center throughout the year, but his game is all about taking the puck to the net and he's got some terrific mitts in close. Maybe take a shot at Sam Bennett. He's about 6 feet, so not necessarily big, but by all accounts he's physically aggressive. After that, I'd be looking at Jared McCann. These are all likely Top-10 picks.
But if we hold the position we're in, I'd want Ekblad. If he was 4 years along and left handed, he'd be exactly what we need right now. You can't trade for these guys, got to draft them.
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Time magazine's editor-in-chief Richard Stengel was asked on Sunday's Reliable Sources to respond to NewsBusters criticizing the inclusion of the Occupy Wall Street movement into Time magazine's "Person of the Year" award, given to "The Protester." In contrast, the Tea Party which helped the Republicans win a landslide election victory in 2010 earned only runner-up status in Time that year.
CNN host Howard Kurtz asked Stengel straight-up about criticisms of the magazine's bias: "Now, some of the criticism of this cover selection comes from the right, the conservative site, NewsBusters saying, 'Time is so liberal that it could not consider the Tea Party protest as a 'Person of the Year' entry, but that's not true with Occupy Wall Street.' Your response?"
Stengel defended the selection by lamely acknowledging the Tea Party as the "antecedent" of the Occupy Wall Street movement and adding that the worldwide protests are non-partisan.
But Kurtz kept pressing Stengel on the inclusion of OWS into the worldwide protests. The Arab Spring, he argued, toppled regimes in the Middle East, but "when you pull the camera back a bit and look at Occupy Wall Street, which is a significant part of this story because it's kind of the American angle – ultimately, what did it accomplish?"
Stengel answered that he sees the "Occupy" movement influencing the 2012 election – even though it remains to be seen that they will accomplish that.
"And I think the protester in the U.S. is going to influence the election this year, influence a lot of the way we think about our issues," he asserted – even though the same was asked of the Tea Party in 2009, which ended up having a large influence in the 2010 elections.
Also one of the runner-ups for the magazine's 2011 award was Kate Middleton. Kurtz scoffed at the selection. "And without any knock on the royal family, I have to ask you, really?" he asked Stengel.
A transcript of a relevant portion of the interview, which aired on December 18 at 11:42 a.m. EST, is as follows:
HOWARD KURTZ: Time's "Person of the Year" was unveiled this week, and as you probably heard, it's not one person. It is instead "The Protester," a symbol of those who challenge the autocratic regimes in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya, as well as the Occupy Wall Street movement here at home.
But was that just a gimmick to avoid honoring a human being? I spoke with Time managing editor, Rick Stengel from New York.
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(on camera) Rick Stengel, welcome.
RICHARD STENGEL, managing editor, Time magazine: Nice to be here with you, Howard.
KURTZ: Now, some of the criticism of this cover selection comes from the right, the conservative site, NewsBusters saying, "Time is so liberal that it could not consider the Tea Party protest as a "Person of the Year" entry, but that's not true with Occupy Wall Street." Your response?
STENGEL: Well, actually, in Kurt Anderson's fantastic cover story about the protester, he cites the Tea Party as an antecedent of what we saw all around the world this year.
And in fact, the – you know, one of the things about the protest movement is that it's politically ecumenical. I mean, there are people on the left and right. And it's not particularly ideological in one way or another. So I just don't think that's a particularly fair criticism.
KURTZ: Now I understand the Arab spring and the courageous people we saw protesting in countries like Tunisia and Egypt and, ultimately, Libya in fighting and toppling those regimes. But when you pull the camera back a bit and look at Occupy Wall Street, which is a significant part of this story because it's kind of the American angle – ultimately, what did it accomplish?
STENGEL: Well, that remains to be seen. I mean, one of the things that I like about this particular choice and that I've tried to do with other choices is, it's not simply a backward-looking choice. It's also a forward-looking choice.
And I think the protester in the U.S. is going to influence the election this year, influence a lot of the way we think about our issues. And by the way, as well, I mean, the story isn't just about Arab Spring and Occupy Wall Street. It's about protests in Madrid, protests in Greece, protests in India, protests now, of course, in Russia which may be the most significant of all.
KURTZ: Now, some of the other criticism is not particularly ideological, but going back to the 2006 choice which was you, all of us, I guess. Some people saying, well, it's kind a copout, you know, because instead of picking a person, you picked this amorphous movement.
STENGEL: Well it's, you know what? Howie, I always prefer to choose a person, and I think that's what people like. You know, we've done that in most cases.
But part of the reason for the choice this year is that there wasn't a person who represented this movement, these changes, that stood out among the rest. And, in fact, part of the choice, too, reflects the fact – the failure, really, of orthodox, conventional government leaders who didn't – haven't risen to the occasion at all this year.
So by selecting the protester in general, it's a statement about the lack of leadership by individuals all around the world.
KURTZ: And when you say "making the choice," is this ultimately your decision? Or is there some kind of a committee that meets behind closed doors and then sends up smoke when you've reached a decision?
STENGEL: (Laughing) I would be revealing house secrets about that. No, it's ultimately my decision. But again, you know, we talk to all of our correspondents, all of our editors, writers, and you know, when we do it during the course of the year. And there seemed to be a general feeling that this was the most interesting idea, the most interesting way to approach it. You know, early in the year, Arab Spring was dominating. And once the kind of germ of protest started spreading, it seemed like it was an even bigger idea.
KURTZ: Right. Now, Time, of course, which is part of CNN's parent company, always gets a lot of publicity and buzz and controversy over this annual choice. You said you would prefer to pick a person. A lot of people are wondering why not Steve Jobs?
STENGEL: Well, the way I look at it, Howie, is that "Person of the Year" is not a lifetime achievement award. If we had chosen someone like Steve Jobs this year, it would have been about what he had done over many, many years. And as you know, from reading Walter's book, he was very disappointed that he wasn't chosen in 1984 as "Person of the Year," and you know –
KURTZ: Yeah, he thought he was going to get it.
STENGEL: – perhaps he should have been.
KURTZ: He thought he was going to get it according to the Walter Isaacson biography. But last year, you picked Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook, so you're saying it helps to be alive to be in contention for this award?
STENGEL: Yes. Well, we've actually never in our history chosen someone who wasn't alive as "Person of the Year." And in fact, you know, speaking of the protester, we had thought about choosing someone who had died, and that would have been Muhammad Bouazizi, the young man in – the young Tunisian fruit seller who set himself afire and started this worldwide movement.
But in the end, I thought the protester was more powerful. In the end, I thought that, in the case of Steve Jobs, it would have been more like a lifetime achievement award rather than the person who really did influence events most during the past year.
KURTZ: Rick, I've got about half a minute. But you also list the runners-up, and one of them was Kate Middleton. And without any knock on the royal family, I have to ask you, really? If this is – is acknowledging of somebody who changed the world -
STENGEL: Well, we're trying to, you know, have an interesting buffet of stories for people. And Kate Middleton, you know, captured hundreds of millions of people's hearts. And in a way, that was a little lighter than some of the others, so part of that is about the mix.
KURTZ: All right. Thanks very much for joining us, Rick Stengel. We appreciate it.