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I was thinking about the probable 7 man rotation before you posted it. I was actually thinking more in regards to a longer term 7 man rotation where they get rid of Lou and ad an athletic PF/C (say an Ibaka type.)
In that case they would give about 36 min each to Jrue/ET/Iggy/Meeks in a SG/SF/SF rotation (4 de-facto starters for 3 positions with Turner filling a "Ginobili role.") Then I tried to figure out how you work a 3 man rotation at PF/C using Thad and 2 other PF/C hybrid types (of which one currently is Brand.)
Thats a nice scenerio you got there, it could work well. Too bad Collins will never let them get rid of Lou, they'll probably start talking contract extention next year. Just look at the amount of shots he takes per minute, you can't replicate that kind of production. Especially the shot he takes from five feet behind the line, no one else can do that. Like when denver traded Melo and now they're losing every game cause they don't have a closer who can get a shot up late. Also someone should tell Evan you get can learn another thing from Lou, you take enough shots some of them will go in, and then the coach might run you back out there when you're 0-11 one game. Also don't be afraid to wave a guy off who got open for a shot and instead take a contested leaner. You get paid to take shots so remember that.
LOL nicely played.
hahaha well done dude
Yeah really, Lou is so unproductive he should ride the bench and never get in the game. he is absolutely the weakest link on this squad. shame we cant trade him, he makes far too much for his production. Without Lou we would probably be a fifty win team this year.
This is not true. Every sentence except for the last one is true though, but not of Lou, instead Evan Turner; particularly the weakest link and far too much for his production parts. But actually, the last sentence could apply to Turner too - in the sense that if he could have supplied just a semblance of an NBA worthy game we would have fifty wins.
Shamefully, Turner now holds the label of most overpaid player on this team - by a long shot.
Regarding your actual post:
1. They have to get their #2 overall pick some playoff experience, right? I know they want to win, but the big picture is important too. I'd hate to think that Turner comes out of this year with minimal playoff experience. That would be a huge wast and set back his long term development. Just look at how important it was to Iguodala to learn from his initial playoff struggles.
2. In terms of this 7 man group the real hole is at SF. Lou, Meeks and Jrue can't give you minutes. I'd actually go back to what Collins said earlier, and see if they can steal a few minutes with Thad at SF. It's not ideal, but its better than Noce.
And looking at Boston and Miami- I'd be fine putting Thad on Lebron or Pierce for 5 minutes a game. You just have to hope that he does not have to roatate much to cover SG's. But honestly, he probably shouldn't leave those stars anyway.
They have to get their #2 overall pick some playoff experience, right? I know they want to win, but the big picture is important too.
I think to collins winning is more important, if they can win and develop a player, that's ok with him but a guy hurting the team at this point (turner, speights) they just aren't going to get in to 'get the experience' unless games turn into a blow out in either direction
It's hard to argue against that philosophy at this point, right?
It depends on how you view Turner and Speights relative importance to this team long term.
I would hope Turner is seen as a key part of the future and that translates in the need to get him some playoff experience.
Even 10 minutes a game would count for something. Whereas if he gets DNP-CD he might as well be watching from the stands.
See my comment below. Pretty much no matter what happens, he'll get his feet wet. And pretty much no matter what happens, he's not going to experience teams specifically focusing to slow him down. I'd like to see him get a bunch of minutes, but only if he's getting the minutes because he's playing well and helping them win. Token playoff minutes isn't a good idea.
I am really surprised that Turner was not able to become more of a core contributor by this stage of the season. That's not to say anything about his future- just expected he would have gotten his legs under him and adapted to the NBA game by now.
I honestly believe he has the length and handle to get to easy spots (inside 16 feet) were he can scorer or pass. Not sure why he has not done this with regularity as opposed to being a spot up shooter.
While I don't deny you your hope, why would you want him seen as a key part of the future after witnessing his game (lack of) for yourself this year?
And if he's going to only get a token 10 minutes in playoff games this year, why wouldn't you want him to realistically be watching from the stands? It's about the same thing, if he's only providing such a miniscule amount, no?
Did you just ask him why he would want Turner to improve?
No, I meant why would you want him seen as a 'key' part of this team going forward when a) you've had a chance to see his limited game, b) he's a redundant player, c) realizing he's another wing who can't shoot. With the way most of these guys are blossoming under Doug and EB approaching a career decline, and Iguodala peaking, why should we as fans hold onto this small thread of waiting for a near 23 year old to become relevant? His importance to this team long term is not relevant at all. Just cut bait and move on. It'd be best for all parties involved. That, or we're going to all sit back and witness the Sixers trying one of their mostly unsuccessful attempts at making a player something he's just not cut out to be - because we can find better equipped backup point guards elsewhere, if, in fact, that is his best suited position on this squad.
You mention improve; how much improvement can this kid really make? He's way overmatched on this level and it's rather apparent.
It's hard to argue against that philosophy at this point, right?
It's not hard to argue against it - i could - just not with much belief. If the sixers still aren't going to win a title this year, is elton brands playoff experience this year more important than thad or speights?
Brand is not long for the sixers - at least as a starter.
Not saying it's something i truly buy into because sadly I'm done with Speights, just saying, long term, getting Brand playoff minutes isn't as important as others who might be here long term :)
Have video coming of Collins talking about tightening his rotation. He says he should've played Turner instead of Nocioni against the Heat.
Video: Iguodala Thursday on the playoffs and adjusting to playing with his balky right knee:
Video: Iguodala Thursday on the playoffs and adjusting to playing with his balky right knee:
Brian, really interesting post. If you listened to Collins throughout the year, he always hoped for the 8th/9th men to be specialists, either a perimeter shooter or a defensive big man. The problem is that none of the candidates do either of those things particularly well. Nocioni hasn't shot the ball well (neither has Kapono in his cameo appearances, for that matter), and Battie is only a good defender relative to Speights (which isn't saying much).
I'm thinking that the 8th/9th men will wind up being determined by matchups. For example, if it's Boston and Krstic is playing backup minutes to Shaq, Battie would get the call. Thad would be matched up vs. Jeff Green, and Nocioni would be called on before Turner to guard Davis. But if Iguodala gets in foul trouble, Turner might be called on before Nocioni to guard Pierce (at least I hope he would).
The other thing to keep in mind is how well the top 7 are playing. It's easier to play the 8th/9th guys if the team has built a nice lead ...
The other thing to keep in mind is how well the top 7 are playing. It's easier to play the 8th/9th guys if the team has built a nice lead ...
This is a good point, and jibes with something I read earlier today. Like, look at last night's game. Collins held Iguodala out until Martin came back in the fourth quarter, longer than he usually would have. That's a luxury he has when they have a lead. He did the same with Jrue vs. the Bulls (but actually waited too long to get Jrue back in there to match up w/ Rose).
Video: Collins after practice on shortening the rotation and choosing between Turner and Nocioni:
I think if we actually have a shot at a first-round upset against Boston, that matters more than giving Turner a little time in some high-stakes games. I'm not really of the view that that type of experience is so much more valuable than regular season experience that 6 games makes that much difference when a guy's already played 82. Even if it is, an upset, even a 7-game loss or a really competitive 6-game loss, would be a big deal for this franchise. It would mean a lot in recruiting free agents; it might mean a bigger gate in the next season, which could lead to more willingness to spend from ownership. I don't really think you handicap yourself when you have that opportunity to give time to a badly struggling rookie.
There are a couple different kinds of playoff experience, imo. Just getting there and experiencing it is one kind. The intensity is different, teams don't take possessions off, the ebb and flow of the game is more extreme. That type of experience is just a matter of getting there and getting your feet wet.
The other kind of experience is when a team has several games and several days to game plan how to stop you, individually. This is the experience Iguodala got against Detroit, and then put into practice the following year against Orlando. The Magic did the same things to Iguodala that Detroit did the previous season, but he knew how to handle the extra attention. That kind of experience is really valuable, and really hard to come by. And there's pretty much zero chance that even if Turner does play in the playoffs (which he will, and should), he's not going to be the focus of anything. He's going to be out there in a really important game, but the game isn't going to hinge on how he plays, and how the opposing team does things differently to make it much harder for him to produce. If that makes any sense.
The way I see it, no matter what, Turner is going to get the first kind of experience. No matter what, he is not going to get the second kind.
I think it might be more important for the team to learn what kind of guy Turner is than for Turner to learn what the playoffs are like, though. I'm sure this would drive most statisticians crazy, but I believe you learn a lot about a player when he's playing in the most important game of his life. Some guys are better than they've ever been, some guys have problems just doing routine things when the pressure is ratcheted up like that. You learn a lot about yourself in those situations. Anyhoo, he'll get minutes, but probably not too many and he'll have ample opportunity to earn more, or less, depending on how he plays.
Interesting take.
As for the last part- about how guys respond to pressure- its often complicated.
For example, Look at Jrue. I think he has really stepped up in some of their bigger games when the rest of the team really needed him- for example the win against the Spurs. But he also has shown a tendency to make some terrible late game turnovers in close games.
IMO, the showing up big is much more important looking forward than the careless mistakes. Because you can learn to cut down TO's, but being the type who asserts themselves in big games usually is more of a personality thing.
Jrue is really a cool dude, and I mean that in the best way possible. Watching him in that Chicago game, he was just completely focused and didn't seem overwhelmed in the least.
Good point here. I see the high pressure situations like this. Some guys can do the things they normally do, like it's any other game, and that's a valuable skill. Some guys can't do the things they normally do, and that blows. And rarely, there are guys who can do things they can't normally do, they're the ones you really want. The guys who can jump higher, sprint faster, play longer without getting tired.
And that was not exactly a good game for him. 12/6/4 and 3 TO's and took some abuse at the hands of Rose.
I thought he played Rose very well in that game, there's only so much you can do against him, especially w/out someone to protect the rim behind you. He wasn't a big part of the offense on the other end, 8 shots, right?
Yeah. And 29 minutes. http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201103280CHI.html
Sorry, typo, meant 39 minutes.
This is what raised my first legit concern about Turner. Things got really dicey in the half court against OKC, and Evan was absolutely suffocated out there. It's one thing to play well against PHX and GSW, I've yet to see him put together a good one in a half court game.
Iguodala on his sometimes bad body language: "I've always tried to be conscious about it. Most of the time I'm mad at myself. That's the biggest thing."
Collins said Thursday that Battie (flu) still isn't ready to play. Would guess it'll essentially be an eight- or nine-man rotation most nights -- five starters, plus Lou, Young, Nocioni or Turner and sometimes Battie as the third big. Hawes playing well allows him to get more minutes and keeps Speights on the bench.
Do you think Coach Collins would answer a question of the type "What does Mareese Speights have to do in the off season to show he's ready for minutes?"
That would be interesting to hear from Doug itself. But it feels like we all know what Speights needs to do, but he has yet to bring it consistently enough to earn the minutes.
I think what it boils down to is Collins doesn't trust Speights. Speights is too unreliable and a big liability on defense, where pretty much all he does is tries to draw charges. Battie is much more consistent and reliable, which is why he'll be the third big man in the playoffs.
Does Speights answer questions to the media much? or is he just not asked. I'd be interested to hear what he has to say about the matter and what he's going to be doing in the off season to work on it?
With 7 games to go the Sixers are likely looking at a 15-17 game improvement in wins as compared to last season. I know Larry Brown has a reputation as a reclamation specialist- but has any other NBA coach come close to what Collins has accomplished in his 1st year on the job:
Sixers: 15-17 game improvement (12 more wins with 7 to go)
Washington: 18 game improvement
Detroit: 18 game improvement
Bulls: "only" 10 game improvement
Here's hoping he has more staying power and long term success than he did after those other great first year bumps.
What's his improvement over the dileo year?
You can keep going back years, but the teams become less and less comparable. The Hawes/Sam swap was already a big change. But factor in Andre Miller that team 2 years ago even more different.
Every new coach is going to be replacing one that "failed" and was fired. And every new coach has to rebuild up team cohesion that was lost during the run-up to the previous firing. In the Sixers case that was probably played a big factor in the 3-13 start.
I'd say in most instances the team 2 years before the firing had a better record than the year previous- thus the reason why the previous coach got fired.
You can keep going back years, but the teams become less and less comparable. The Hawes/Sam swap was already a big change. But factor in Andre Miller that team 2 years ago even more different.
Elton Brand played 28 games.
So you think Andre Miller and no elton brand is more talent than a second year jrue holiday and a healthy elton brand?
Sorry. This team has more talent (in my opinion) than they had when Dileo was here and COllins is supposed to be the uber coach.
Did he do a good job this year, sure he did, did he do a great job based on his talent? Probably not. Just last year the team so WOEFULLY underperformed it's talent it SEEMS to be a better job.
Let's not forget Eddie Jordan and his inability to coach or use elton brand at all, his inattention to defense, and the fact that Lou Williams had the best year of his career
Do you feel the same way about Thibodeau? I mean, Del Negro was really a terrible coach. They were a pretty solid playoff team under Skiles, then they added Rose and Boozer, I mean, aren't they just playing to their skill level now rather than being coached by an uber genius?
Thibodeau is probably getting more credit than he deserves, but the bulls at least made the playoffs last year.
If Dileo or cheeks had coached last years roster to a 40-42 record - 8 seed - first round loss and then been fired for lack of 'advancement' - and then collins came in, would the praise for him be so good?
The sixers record was not reflective of their talent last year because their coach was an idiot who didn't know how to coach a roster, who alienated his players and made them all miserable. Collins not being a dick warrants praise?
Personally, I think when a coach of a team I root for beats my own expectations by 10 games or so, that merits praise. I'm typically overly optimistic before the season begins and I thought I was giving the Sixers an extra 5 games when I predicted 32 wins.
As for the Bulls, they were a playoff team last year w/ a bad coach and no PF. They got Boozer over the summer, and some other pieces, and got rid of the bad coach. Actually, they've notably improved their roster while you can't make the same claim about the Sixers over last season. I think Collins has probably had more to do w/ the turnaround in Philly than Thibs did in Chicago, based on your criteria, at least.
The Bulls made the jump from also ran to legit playoff contender. They have improved their talent and are somewhat healthier. But not every team can be a contender, so its worth more than the W/L record.
But were your expectations were clouded by last years record and performance (as was almost everyone's) is the question.
Did the sixers out perform this year or just out perform unreasonably low expectations because they had a horrible coach last year.
Collins is a better coach than eddie jordan - but so are you, or tk, or derek, or even eddy or kellys dad.
All I'm saying is that the jubilence over Collins performance I believe is over blown because of the weight of unrealistically low expectations.
They were a 500 team (pretty much) before Jordan - a half assed coach gets em close to 500 last year - and then Collins performance isn't so amazing, is it?
Under DiLeo and Cheeks, they had a guy in the middle who blocked a ton of shots and gobbled up defensive rebounds. With that, a halfway decent coach can coax a decent defensive performance out of a team. A good defensive coach can couple that with an elite wing defender to create a very good defense. The main basis for my prediction was the complete lack of an interior presence on the defensive end. I didn't think it was possible to have a top-ten defense with a sieve as your starting center, and I still really don't know how Collins has done it.
You may be able to make the case that he's gotten this roster to play to its potential on the offensive end this season and any improvement shouldn't really be attributed to Collins. I'd disagree, but there's an argument there, somewhere. I don't think you can make the case that they'd be this good defensively, with really one plus defender in their ten man rotation, without Collins. And defense is the reason they've had this turnaround.
Yes, he looks better in comparison to Jordan last season, but he really does deserve all the credit he's getting for getting the team as a whole to defend like they have considering the limitations on that side of the ball.
With that, a halfway decent coach can coax a decent defensive performance out of a team.
And yet Jordan couldn't do it.
So yeah, he's better than Jordan.
Like I said, being better than Eddie Jordan isn't hard.
year 2 will be more telling than year one.
Can't make that comparison, it was a much different team with Miller.
I know you don't like Doug that much, but you can't disregard what he's done after the 3-13 start. Eddie Jordan did an awful lot of damage, bad habits aren't that easy to shake.
if we 'can't compare' because of one mediocre player (cause jrue is hella better than miller) then you can't compare last year because it was a different roster, with a much dumber coach. Tray or you could have coached the sixers better than Eddie Jordan did last year.
People ignore the 'job' Eddie Jordan did and over praise collins based on comparing it to last years record, but the sixers grossly under performed their talent last year because theye were coached by a moron.
I think it's more fair to compare them to Dileo because even though you think Miller is a big deal I think HAVING elton brand for a full season is a much bigger deal than having andre miller and elton brand for only 28 games.
In fact, Collins has more talent than Dileo had, so he BETTER have a better record.
difference of opinion on Miller I suppose.
I don't think you can ignore the way they take care of the basketball this year, or the way they've defended the 3 pt line, after what seems like a decade of inept 3 pt defense.
And I think you're ignoring the fact that Eddie Jordan didn't care about defense or know how to use his talent.
Comparing Collins record to the barely at or below 500 teams of the cheeks/dileo era makes more sense to me than comparing them to the record of a guy who makes isiah thomas look like a genius. It gives Collins more credit than he deserves because Jordan was terrible (and again, you ignore the fact that this is elton brands first healthy year in philadelphia because it gives collins an advantage Cheeks/Dileo never had)
Yeah, I think Andre Milelr in his prime is a mucjh more winning player than Jrue at 20. Jrue is more talented, but he still is learning the game and the PG position. While Miller regularly knew exactly when to step up and how to settle down the team.
You can't even harp on Miller's defense, given Jrue has been torched much worse than Miller was that year.
He's done a great job maximizing the play of Brand, Thad, Iguodala and Meeks. You could arguably say the same about Hawes- since I think he is basically a bum.
Collins has walked a tightrope with Jrue. He's both given him a ton of minutes (35 min/g is 19th highest all time of the 100 players in NBA history who played at least 15 min/g at age 20.)
But he's not completely handed rue the keys, because that would have cost them a lot of losses. Probably close to an ideal balance of player development without costing the team wins.
As for Turner, that's a tough one. Overall Turner has averaged nearly 23 min a game and appeared in all but 1 game. But he's clearly not being maximized nor showing progress. So next year will be pretty key. And I do wonder more and more whether the rumors about Collins being down on Turner on draft day were true. Collins has admitted that he was not one of the lead decision-makers regarding the draft.
As for Speights- all NBA coaches hate the guy. he should have his very own personal doghouse. So I don't read much into his lack of PT. Had he somehow gotten Speights to tap into his talent it would be a plus- but that might not be a realistic expectation.
BTW - I'd give coach of the year to poppovich personally
I probably would go with either Pops or Thibbs. I'f definitely rate Collins top 5 for this year (that does not make him a top 5 coach per say.)
I actually think if you're talking theory, x's and o's, pregame strategy/preparation and maximizing his players' skills, he's at or near the top of the league. As for in-game management, I think he makes some questionable moves and I think it comes from him being too emotionally involved. The team feeds off his energy, but he doesn't see the forest for the trees, sometimes.
That's probably a fair assessment. But I think it will take a few years and hopefully a bunch of playoff games to better assess Collins as a coach of the Sixers.
But simply grading his first year- especially given their stated goals- its hard to give him anything worse than an A-/B+. And you can make a strong argument for a higher grade than that.
But I think it will take a few years and hopefully a bunch of playoff games to better assess Collins
So after he's gone.
Or do you really think he lasts more than 3 years?
You predicted he wouldn't even make it through this year, right? Around the time he took off for the concussion...Didn't you say he would bow out mid-season?
I was sort of half kidding but I said I wouldn't be surprised if he left halfway through the season, but that's also when they were off to their 3-13 start (and I wasn't the only one thinking he wouldn't make it through the season and found the timing of the concussion symptoms returning very 'conspiracy' like')
The 3 years thing though isn't a number I made up, it's pretty much his track record
3 seasons in Chicago
2 1/2 Season in Detroit
2 seasons in Washington
What's also interesting is the 'hiatuses'
6 years between chicago and detroit
3 years between detoit and washington
7 years between washington and philly.
He doesn't exactly have a staying power and I wonder if he is of the 'larry bowa school' (bowa isn't the first but the one that sticks in my memory) of rubbing goes the wrong way after a couple years.
(Or scott skiles if you want)
Three years seems like a reasonable guess to me at this point. I know he said he wants to be here for five.
Collins was fired after leading the bulls to their best record in 15 years and a conference finals appearance?
Jeez - that's rough
Yeah, I always thought he got a raw deal in CHI. I mean, that team was so talented, you have to think if he had hung on he'd be the one with five rings. Though maybe at that point they were so talented they really needed a zen master more than a teacher.
it was Jordan that wanted him out, correct?
Don't know. I think there was a book written about that, I didn't read it, though. If anyone knows the title, I'd like to pick it up.
I'm assuming it's The Jordan Rules by one of my least favorite basketball writers.
He did want him out, because Collins apparently became so emotional after every game, that Jordan couldn't take it. He also apparently gave into Jordan, so the organization was alright with doing it.
In related news, coaching a young Michael Jordan wasn't fun, per se.
I wonder if that's a strong indication of just how long it takes Collins to rub a team (and organization) the wrong way?
Conference finals,still fired, and it's not like they had larry brown waiting to replace him (even though of course brown still had a job with the sixers, oh wait, that's how detroit played out)
We got mentioned as one of the most intriguing teams going into the playoffs.
I think Collins has tempered himself enough that what he did wrong with those other teams he has corrected about himself for the most part. You can see when he is happy now, not so much when he is mad. He's learned to praise instead of be harsh. He's also learned to let his assistants be a "voice" to prevent the players from being tired of his own. He's matured a lot as a coach. Is he perfect? No. Not even the great coaches like Phil Jackson or Red Auerbach were perfect. But he fits for this team. I really don't see why he wouldn't be around here for 3-5 years. Larry Brown lasted here longer than he did anywhere else and he's moved around more than any coach. Collin's situation with his other teams were different. He wasn't fired so much based on his work but because expectations were higher than his rosters could deliver at the time. He's always had young rosters. Grant Hill, Michael Jordan, Rip Hamilton etc were all young when he had them. He certainly was at fault for being too emotional with Jordan and company but it's not exactly like MJ was easy to coach at the time. He had an insane desire to win and was frustrated he didn't get to the point he wanted to be. The simple fact is the players weren't mature enough when Collins had them to get to that championship level. The Pistons were as good as that talent could get and same for Washington. I couldn't imagine any coach getting those teams any better than they were those years with the same rosters. Same for this year's 76ers.
I bet if you go back to his first years at Detroit, Chicago and possibly even Washington he 'enjoyed it' as well.
3 years - 3 different jobs - separated by decades. He obviously didn't 'learn' anything between those jobs. No reason to think he learned anything now.
If anything, as he's older, he might start to miss the much easier well paying broadcasting job sooner than later.


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NVIDIA Launches 3D Vision Surroundby Ryan Smith on 6/29/2010 9:00 AM EST
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Wayne321 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkGreat, more competition = more innovation. I'm still waiting for quality 120Hz LCDs though, for a non-3D upgrade. Reply
Etern205 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkNvidia needs 2 video cards to get 3 screens running while ATi can do the same thing with one (minus the 3D). Reply
Death666Angel - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkThey can do 3D, in various formats, for example:
Stupid nVidia bias. Reply
Heatlesssun - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkWhile technically true there are a LOT of caveats to this. First is the resolution. I'm running 5760x1200 and that's really a LOT of pixels to push through only on card, I'm running 3 480s and they muderize a single 5870 at this resolution. So while you need two cards you WANT two cards at these resolutions unless you are willing to give up a LOT of eye candy. Reply
B3an - Sunday, July 04, 2010 - linkI'd also like to point out that the 1GB 5870 does not have enough RAM either for gaming on multiple displays at this kinda res.
It can cope with older games of course, but on my single 2560x1600 display i can run out of RAM with my 5870's in some games made within the last 3 years, but it usually requires some level of AA. When you hit the RAM limit though you go from perfectly smooth into single digit FPS.
If you're playing at higher res i believe two 480's would be overall best. I know ATI have 2GB 5870's but they are not as fast. Reply
wiak - Monday, July 05, 2010 - linkAMD can do 6 screens on 2x standard eyefinity cards, or 12 screens on 2x eyefinity6 cards :P
didnt AMD show a linux based desktop running a flight sim that was having 24 screens? :D
that must have been 4x eyefinity6 cards
jup here is it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Vf8R_gOec Reply
Earballs - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkSame boat here. Give me high resolution 120Hz IPS LCD please. I can't upgrade my display in good conscience until then. Reply
james.jwb - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkexactly the same feeling here, IPS 120hz, hurry! Reply
PPalmgren - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkAren't IPS panels already problemating regarding input lag? I want black accuracy as much as you do, but its not worth the atrocious input lag problems I've experienced on my panels. I have a good TN 24'' on the left now for gaming, on the right I have my 24'' expensive IPS that I'll never play a game on again.
Considering the main function of this type of system is gaming (what else could you use 3d surround for?) I'd say fixing the input lag issues would be precedent unless you're playing a game that requires low reaction time and accuracy. Reply
PPalmgren - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkOops...disregard that post. I'm an idiot, its a PVA panel I have. Reply
B3an - Sunday, July 04, 2010 - linkIt's not the type of panel tech that has input lag anyway, it's more to do with the electronics used to convert the signal.
Personally i'd never use a TN panel for anything. Utter sh*te. Reply
Leo V - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkAmen! Even scrolling at 60Hz gives me a headache. Reply
I am as mad as hell - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - linkIPS and fast refresh rate needed for 3D shutter tech don't mix!
IPS panels can't refresh fast enough without causing major ghosting issues in 3D
Sorry to shatter your dreams for now. Reply
electroju - Thursday, July 01, 2010 - link""Same boat here. Give me high resolution 120Hz IPS LCD please. I can't upgrade my display in good conscience until then. ""
Like others have said. That will not happen because of how IPS panels works. Another panel type is ASV from Sharp. It is said it is capable of fast response times and wide viewing angles or a replacement for IPS. I have not check out any ASV type of LCD panel yet. The ASV panel is used mainly for TV, but it should be able to use for computers too. I guess the market has not yet turn on the light bulb when there is a better technology out there. Though Sony sign a contract with Sharp, so Sony could be using ASV panels for their new TV.
Call me old fashion or just smart, but I prefer to use CRT. I dislike LCD for just about anything. Reply
Aezay - Friday, July 02, 2010 - linkI'm hoping that OLED will fix all of these problems, by having better stats than both TN and IPS/PVA. Reply
cactusdog - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - linkYAY!! Lets spend a couple of thousand dollars on graphics cards and monitors so we can play the latest games at 30 FPS!!!! Reply
Rick83 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkI've been missing playing Lock-On in dual screen mode (yes, it broke a few things in the tutorials), as I could back inthe WinXP days...
Luckily AMD went ahead and brought multiscreening back to Vista, and forced nVidia to follow suit...
Only took 4 years to raise this feature from the dead -.- Reply
Rick83 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkActually, having installed the driver (x64 on server 2008) I cannot seem to find the relevant settings. I only have a single GTX260 though - still with two monitors attached it should offer me some kind of surround option? Reply
Rick83 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkSo it seems this caters to the SLI crowd only - rendering across two screens (in full-screen mode) is still a big nono.
For shame nVidia, for shame.... Reply
Rick83 - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - linkAnd I got the confirmation from nvidia...
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=17277... Reply
cknobman - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkif you have to spend double the cash to do the same thing (even less) than your competitor can do. Reply
beginner99 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkNot an issue IMHO. Only enthusiasts use this anyway and the tend to have multi-gpu anyway. Not to mention that playing at these resolutions with high settings probably needs 2 gpus anyway. Reply
DanNeely - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkThe only 3 common monitor setup that's really viable on a single GPU is 3x1280x1024, which is about the same number of pixels as a 30" 2560x1600 display, going higher without turning off most of the eye candy isn't really practical on newer games without dual GPUs so this is more of a problem for marketing than the real world. Reply
Rick83 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkThere is a software solution called SoftTH which will do triple-heading completely in software, without the need for any specific driver. Works only for dx8 and 9 as far as I know. It will even work with cheap cards as secondary outputs, because all rendering is performed on the main card. Reply
Lord 666 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkSimilar processing as a 480 using the Fermi core, but it will have different outputs? Reply
DanNeely - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkI wouldn't hold my breath. The chip in the 460 is aimed at the middle range of the GPU market and was probably almost as far along as the chip in the 465/470/480. We'll almost certainly have to wait until the 5xx series chips to get a 3rd concurrent output. Reply
eddyg17 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkwow, just wow.
My boss and I were just talking about how cool it would be to have surround 3d gaming; enter nvidia. Cant wait to hear the reviews. Gonna have to start saving money. Reply
xrolando - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkDo the glasses restrict your field of view enough to prevent you from seeing 100% the two extra monitors? I just remember my movie theater experiences not being very pleasant with the glasses on. Reply
killerclick - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkWait, what are those lines between the screens? Oh yeah, it's the black plastic the monitors are made of. Three monitor gaming = FAIL! Reply
infodan - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkyeah it's not realistic at all, its not like you'd find anything like that in real life situations that games are commonly modelled on like driving for example. Reply
killerclick - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkToo bad they won't ever line up. Reply
newparad1gm - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkYes they will, that's exactly what bezel management is for. Reply
james.jwb - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkhe meant the borders of the windows on the car and the bezels of the monitors.
He has a point, bezels do need to -- and will -- become smaller in the future. Until then there will definitely be a chunk of people willing to hold off. Reply
DanNeely - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkSome of the control circuitry for an LCD has to be on the side. Backlights don't have to be, but until Joe Moron is convinced that bezels are more of a problem than thickness they're going to continue to end up there on anything except high end displays (edge back lighting is less even than the back lights behind the panels) Reply
Ninjahedge - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkI think 3 is fine. 2 is where the problem has been. When using 2 monitors, most games are designed to have your FOV centered on teh screen, not off to one side or another (even on RTS games, you can "center view".
Trying, I forget that Magic RTS, "Magic V" maybe? Trying that game was irritating with the seperation of screens right there in front of you.
What needs to be done is simple. 3 screens works, but getting 3 screens the same size is difficult, especially with the HDTV craze (very short wide screens). 3 square screens, or two square and a wide screen would work well.
The next is that some games need to WORK with it. You need to have the game developers take advantage of the screen. What might work even with the Duals that many have now is a rebdered screen and a menu screen.
HELL, they were doing that 15 years ago with AutoCAD! What, they do not think you want your hud on one monitor and the FOV on the other?
Three screens on one card is the next step. Not many people have $1000+ to get a single 2550x1600 for their desktop.... Reply
CptTripps - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkTime to get some new material, you posted the same "exact" thing at Toms. Have you ever played on a three monitor setup? Reply
mindbomb - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkIt seems completely inferior to and much less practical than gaming on a big screen lcd tv.
Just because nvidia and amd are pushing it doesn't mean its a good idea all of a sudden. Reply
killerclick - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkYeah, the first time on 3 huge screens in Trocadero in London in '93. It sucked back then, too just as it did every time I tried it since. Reply
ghitz - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkagreed. Reply
frozentundra123456 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkSeems like cool technology. Now all you need is a dedicated power plant for the power and loads of money to buy the equipment.
Seriously, either this or eyefinity seems like a lot of money to spend on playing a game. But I guess if you can afford it more power to you. Personally, this is way out of my league, unless the prices come down a lot, especially considering most games coming out are sequels or console ports. Reply
hackztor - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkOver the weekend I was at DesertBash lan in Arizona and they had a setup for 3d vision surround and it was pretty cool. Reply
Sp12 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkHonestly, I think requiring two cards is a significant increase in the cost of entry barrier, and frankly gives ATI a significant advantage.
I am not an enthusiast buyer. I buy for value, yet I have an eyefinity setup, and my cost of entry was 350$.
Granted, I already had two IPS monitors for photoshop and needed a new videocard anyway, but I was able to buy one ATI 5850 for 250$ and am able to drive demanding games at 5040*1050 with at least 2xAA and 60 frames.
I think that's a pretty good value. If I had to upgrade to a dual GPU-setup to do so, I would've ended up buying a new PSU, mobo, and a second video card. Reply
seonjie - Friday, October 01, 2010 - linkdemanding game in 5040x1080 with single 5850 is a big no no.with 5040x1080 u only can play old or low detail game. Reply
rgladiator - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - link>>In the meantime stay tuned for our full review of NVIDIA's 3D Vision Surround later this month.
So that's tomorrow then? :) Reply
RaistlinZ - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkWhy is it that we can develop 3D vision technology but still can't make a freakin' LCD with a thin bezel? Reply
Ninjahedge - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkThe problem may not be in the ability to do so, but in protection for the components.
I wonder how they would be able to protect the edge of the screen from shipping damage (limit loss #s) with an ultra-thin edge....
The only other thing I can think of as a problem would be getting the wiring around the corner to be on the same plane as the LCD screen... Maybe they need to focus more on thin edge than thin front-to-back?
Would that be feasable?
BTW, WT(H) is up with 3D everything? No doubt it is a neat novelty, but until you can actually reach out and TOUCH something in a game, it may be a wasted effort. Most games do not allow that kind of close contact,. and those that do can be hard to control. (Remember Die By The Sword?)..
Oddly enough, racing games may be the best use for this (both 3D AND 3 Screens)......
Ah, I remember the game I was having problems with... Heroes of Might and Magic.... Reply
dailo23 - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkinstead of making ultra-thin edge, i think the solution to the bezel is to have removable bezel on lcd screen. so for normal usage, you still have the bezel for protection.. but if you want to add more monitor, just remove one of the side (or both), and maybe have some mechanism to lock up with another monitor Reply
TGressus - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkGreat idea! Reply
james.jwb - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkI like :) Reply
Death666Angel - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkYeah, how could they possibly manage to ship something as fragile as LCD monitors without edges.... Did you ever have something like glass shipped?
And this solution still sucks, we need either:
http://www.seamlessdisplay.com/products_radius320.... Reply
nubie - Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - linkHuh, I bet I could make my own light engine and place panels on it.
1. Find a 40" LCD TV with a cracked LCD, harvest backlight and frame.
2. Mount 3 LCDs from computer monitors (with bad backlights or inverters) in front of single large backlight.
3. ??
4. Profit.
Sounds great, especially if you can find the parts broken for little money. Reply
miahallen - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkOK, you say that triple SLI doesn't work with GT200 series cards....but will the technology work with Quad-SLI (2x 295 GTX)? Reply
TinksMeOff - Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - linkI ordered two Galaxy GTX 465 as they blow hot air outside the PC Case and two (more) ASUS LCD 25.5" 2MS VW266H (1920X1200) which should arrive on July 1st. Not to sure what to do with my GTX 285. But right now I am psyched. This set me back $1,100 shopping at all the right places and I am broke but not broken. The two GTX465 were $500 shipped and will beat a single GTX480 in all benchmarks. Two of these cards will nearly have the same power requirements as one GTX480 and the heat from two Galaxy GTX465 is less than one GTX480. For those wanting less power, heat and a faster GPU setup, the GTX465 is sitting pretty if you want nVidia surround sound.
I remember the Matrox G200 when working at CompUSA back in the day and we were all jazzed about the three monitor support. Neverwinter Nights and Diablo were beauts to behold for expanding your viewing scope. Those cards were $500 if I recall. Then the monitors cost of course. I never bought into it back then because Matrox was so far behind nVidia and ATI in terms of raw power and they didn't seem to want to compete in the raw power arena (and they didn't compete in the end). Now we have AMD and nVidia both offering powerful cards that can do three monitors. Just Lovely! This is the wave of the future. nVidia offering 3D Vision ups the ante. Reply
Setsunayaki - Thursday, July 01, 2010 - linkI remember when OCP did the review on 3x2 monitors on the ATI cards....and for shooters that did not work since the targetting reticle is always centered and the bezels get in the way. Nvidia of course has the same problem....
I rather own one LARGE 40 - 50 inch LCD monitor under a 16 : 9 Aspect Ratio (so i can also watch DVDs and Blu-Ray disks at correct aspect Ratio) and even play games under the same Aspect Ratio, simply for synchronization purposes with most media out there...
...than have multiple monitors and video cards eating up kw of power just to find that I can't even maintain enough framerate to perfectly render this new technology at max settings due to the heavy graphical requirements for the next generation of games being released....
Years and Years later....we still don't have one video card that can run Crysis on max settings and break 60 FPS...though we have the first video card combination SLI that can actually do it....which means next generation of games + this new Nvidia technology...Don't make me laugh when you have to wait YEARS to get a worthy 3D gaming experience due to the lack of Framerates, but if you are willing to go barebones in your graphics, im sure you can have some experience...but thats not what video cards are made for...to go barebones :( Reply
TinksMeOff - Thursday, July 01, 2010 - linkHardware Canucks put out some quick numbers for a GTX480 SLI. I am more interested in 2D Surround than I am 3D Surround. The numbers shown aren't depressing me one bit especially for beta drivers.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canu... Reply
TinksMeOff - Friday, July 02, 2010 - linkFYI Update, after upgrading my system last night with two Galaxy GTX465 Cards and two more ASUS LCD 25.5" 2MS VW266H (1920X1200), I got these benchmark in the built in Farcry2 Benchmark test. I particularly like the Min Benchmark findings
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Average - 107.21
Max - 158.34
Min - 82.44
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Average - 62.12
Max - 81.12
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tnygwek - Friday, July 02, 2010 - link"But with 3D Vision, horizontal linear polarization comes in to play: because both the monitor and the glasses are polarized for glare reduction and image blocking respectively, they have to be properly aligned. Anyone who has tilted their head when viewing 3D through a linear system has seen what happens if the screen and glasses are not aligned: the polarization blocks the entire image. As a result 3D Vision Surround is not currently usable in portrait mode when used in conjunction with an LCD monitor – only projectors are supported."
I though that Nvidia 3DVision only used shutter glass technique for image blocking and no polarization at all.
Do they really have additional linear polarization for glare reduction? I can not see anything related to that in any document from Nvidia or article.
I do not have any 3DVision kit so I can not do the tilt test. Reply
hcforde50 - Friday, July 02, 2010 - linkI have not read through all of the post but a major problem I see with 3D as it is is that if one monitor goes down you are in deep trouble. They seem to change monitor models every 6 months or so. If one went out after a year or so you may have to pay a lot to find an EXACT replacement of buy three new monitors.
Nvidia is going to have to deal with this somehow or face some dissapointed customers when a monitor breaks down. Reply
TinksMeOff - Friday, July 02, 2010 - linkGood Point. They need to have similar specs, not the exact same brand. Even yet, a Manufacture Brand that supplies an FL Inverter Board (an inexpensive small part that gives powers to the screen) with an easy replacement slot on the backside panel may solve a lot of FUD over the issue.
On the flip side, you should still have two monitors available until the new/replacement monitor arrives. You may also have one great excuse to the wifey (or yourself) that you need to upgrade all three, LOL.
Length of warranties or extended warranties will play a good factor I would think.
Fermion Alpha - Sunday, July 11, 2010 - linkI try using the forum to post a question but it won't let me so I figure I could use this threat since is 3d related. Basically I am very confused in how to get a 3d setup working. I Have a Radeon 5850 and I read somewhere that AMD is now offering third party 3D solutions. But I can't find a review anywhere and an list of company I could get glasses from. The other thing, Will AMD 3D "vision" work on my Samsung 120Hz 22in monitor ? or is this monitor only good for Nvidia's 3D ? Finally my last question, I keep hearing you need a 120Hz monitor to play 3D on my computer. does that mean my game has to play at 120fps ? For instance Battlefield Bad Company 2 plays at 80 FPS on my computer and sometimes deeps to 40 frames. does this mean the 3d is going to look screwed up on my computer? One more final question, How much extra graphics power does 3D take. I keep reading it takes 2 times the power since the card has to render 2 screens. Does that mean my Battlefield Bad Company 2 will play between 40 and 20 fps if I use 3D? I read your website everyday and this place is grate to finding answers to technology questions. Thank you for reading. Reply
Rukur - Sunday, September 19, 2010 - linkThis tech leads me to think of multiple projectors and hence no bezel issues. Why hasn't anyone done it yet ? Reply

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It's always lovely to hear a fashion story a little left-of-field. Sydney artist Sarina Tomchin (aka Sarina) has had her artwork included in a collection of cigar box handbags (pictured) sold in New York cult accessories store Orson's Place . Sarina's Je Suis collection, which features on the handbags, depicts painted French femmes fatales, divas, rock chicks and words of French wisdom. Owner of Orson's Place, Terry Putz (who worked as a personal assistant for the late Orson Welles - hence the NY store's name) spied Sarina's work at an LA trade fair and just had to have it for her box handbags. Available in Australia by the end of the month, between $300 and $400 at X.S.R.E. in the city or Trilogie in Mosman.
Orson expansion
On more news Orson-related - not the big man but the big store - Orson & Blake opened its third premises last week in Queen Street, Woollahra (across the road from its present digs). More fashion than homewares - although there are salon sofas, deco style mirrors and crystal candlesticks - the store is very feminine (think 1950s Paris) and stocks all new products for the Orson & Blake group. Take your pick from Sophia Swire cashmere, Penelope Durston scarf dresses, Tina Kalivas, Rebecca Dawson and Mad Cortes. If you're after a great present for that someone special (perhaps moi), why not grab a pair of holistic silk reflexology slippers, $169.
Right on target
With 120 stores opened and 200 yet to fling open their doors, it's probably a little too early for the definitive verdict on the new Westfield at Bondi Junction. What is certain is the surprise early hit of the "black label" complex. Target. Yes, that's right. Target. This mall rat has seen many a fashion identity leaving the checkout at Target or clutching the store's plastic carry bag while eyeing Sergios in Evelyn Miles or gorgeous Fillipa K and Paul & Joe separates in Christensen Copenhagen. Thank goodness shopping is breaking down the barriers.
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And the last word on Westfield Bondi Junction. By the end of this month not only is Myer scheduled to open but also the "mainstream fashion precinct" - as opposed to "designer fashion precinct" - should be up and running. Watch out for fashion retail chains Country Road, Esprit, Guess, David Lawrence, Portmans and MNG - known in Europe as Mango (pictured).
Warm up
After a chocolate-soaked Easter weekend, Fashion police is going to put down one sad-looking decapitated brown bunny and contemplate an expansion of a different kind. This winter two Australian labels will add some extra fashion strings to their belts. Alex Zabotto-Bentley is adding his first denim range, including men's and women's jeans, women's blazers and minis, to his printed Ts and basics collection. Specialist shirtmakers Herringbone will add the ol' deep V-neck knit in fine merino wool jersey for men and women. In both a vest ($159 women's, $179 men's) and long sleeve ($198 women's, $235 men's) the knit comes in a variety of colours including beige, mushroom and pale blue for him and taupe, mauve and pink for her.
Doggy bags
Perfect for fashionable lovers of very small furry animals is the Pooch Pouch (pictured, bottom). Sarah Conners has long been doing a lovely range in leather accessories and this winter she has added the doggy tote, $390, to her collection. There are side pockets for leads, treats and plastic bags (even pampered pooches can be messy) and an internal clip that can attach to puppy's collar, ensuring he can't leap out and try it on with the good-looking sales assistant. In brown, black or pink. Your puppy will thank you. Details: http://www.sarahconners.com.au
Winter glow
With dreary old winter just around the corner, Fashion police has a handy hint for achieving a much needed warm glow. Leave the Chivas Regal at the ski lodge and try Becca's creme blush in Amaryllis on the cheeks, $37. Fashion police has always been wary of rouge (blame Barbara Cartland and a great aunt who couldn't resist a smooch) but it's amazing how a touch of colour on the cheeks can make such a difference to how you look and feel. The dusky pink colour is a favourite of Naomi Watts and is available at Mecca Cosmetica.
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I started my last one in Aug of 03' an am pretty embarrassed by some of the shit in there. I think I've earned a somewhat clean slate but if you want to journey into my seedy past of doo doo drawings then you can see my old book here:
A near-tech space suit design I'm working on, trying to go for function. These are research pages.
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This week the weaning continued and I quite enjoyed coming up with my own recipes and concoctions which were going down without fuss and quite quickly.
Who'd have thought sweet potato, carrot and apple would taste so yummy – Michael had better watch out as I may start experimenting with his meal times as well.
As well as mushy purée there has been the introduction of healthy nibbles to coincide with baby led weaning. He loves his mini rice cakes but had a rude awakening when, after putting the whole thing in his mouth, realised very quickly it's better to break it down and crush it with him gums and two little piranha teeth!
So the weaning is going to plan, he's sleeping through the night and I'm finally feeling like I'm starting to get my energy back. That was until a few days ago when the loose routine we had began falling apart. Just when you think you've got it all sorted, your little one goes and surprises you once again.
It began with him not wanting to nap during the day as he'd much rather focus on what daddy was doing or find out how much that house sold at auction on Homes under the Hammer.
He's now developed the knack of getting cross when he drops a toy and knows we'll be there picking it up at his beck and call (sounds like someone else I know).
I guess this is all part of growing up and being part of this new big wide world. He's nosy, inquisitive and knows what he likes and certainly knows what he doesn't (again, clearly he's his father's son).
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|Kyle Anderson works his muscles with a little help from VA Physical Therapist Wendi Slattengren.
VA photo by April Eilers
In October 2004, 19-year-old Marine Lance Corporal Kyle Anderson was on patrol in Iraq when a roadside bomb exploded near him, sending pieces of shrapnel through his helmet and into his skull. The searing hot metal penetrated deep, ripping through the entire left side of Anderson's brain.
The young marine was quickly airlifted to Baghdad Hospital, where surgeons operated.
"That first surgery saved his life," said Anderson's dad, Tim. "But they had to remove part of his skull, and parts of his brain, in order to clean things out."
Not too long after that, the badly wounded marine was flown to the United States.
"I have to be honest, when I first saw my son at Bethesda Naval, I didn't know if he was going to make it," Tim Anderson said. "The worst thing we'd ever had in our family, prior to this, was a scuffed knee. This was not a scuffed knee."
Weeks later, Kyle Anderson's doctors at Bethesda Naval Medical Center deemed him to be medically stable. In late 2004 he was flown to the Minneapolis Veterans Affairs Medical Center where he began comprehensive rehabilitation for his acute traumatic brain injury (TBI). Minneapolis is home to one of four top-level VA polytrauma centers located around the country. These centers specialize in treating Veterans and active duty military personnel who've suffered multiple traumatic injuries.
"When Kyle first arrived, our team members observed a young male lying in his bed, with a large concavity where the left part of his skull had been," said Michelle Peterson, Kyle's physical therapist. "He was nonverbal. Kyle could only communicate with automatic facial expressions such as smiling, or crying. He couldn't move his right arm or his right leg. He had a right visual field loss, and significant hearing loss in both ears."
|Anderson uses a treadmill to improve his coordination and endurance.
VA photo by April Eilers
The Long Road Back
VA surgeons promptly went to work, essentially rebuilding the side of Kyle's head with the help of a custom cranioplasty plate. They used a CT scan to design the plate so it would fit the exact dimensions of Kyle's missing skull.
Kyle's successful surgery, however, was just the first step in a long journey toward recovery. The surgery only provided the bone to protect his brain but regaining function required extensive rehabilitation. Modern medicine had repaired his shattered body, but learning how to use it again was another matter. Kyle would need to start at the beginning, slowly relearning the basics of how to walk. How to speak. Even how to swallow.
But Lance Corporal Anderson was ready for the difficult work ahead, and so was his polytrauma team at VA.
"Kyle received our full spectrum of interdisciplinary care, everything from basic medical to speech, physical, and occupational therapy," said Dr. Mike Armstrong, chief of the Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation Department at VA Minneapolis. "The surgeons in Baghdad saved Kyle's life. It was now our job to give him his life back."
Armstrong emphasized that in addition to Kyle's extensive rehabilitation for TBI, the young marine also needed a high degree of nursing care. "Our nurses are the foundation of our polytrauma program," he said. "A solid nursing team is critical to the rehabilitation of any TBI patient. Without strong nursing, nothing else can happen."
In addition to therapy, recovering successfully from a traumatic brain injury requires yet another key ingredient: emotional support. This is why the Minneapolis Polytrauma facility has a seasoned team of mental health professionals and social workers on hand to help TBI patients — as well as their families — deal with the tremendous stress they suddenly find themselves under.
"A family must cope with a lot of emotions and changes when one of its members suffers a traumatic injury," explained Stacy Tepper, Kyle's lead social worker and primary care manager. "Our team provided Kyle and his family with the counseling and support they needed during this unfamiliar journey.
"This support continues to be an important aspect of treating Kyle as a whole person," she added.
Thumbs Up!
As the weeks went by, Kyle gradually began showing signs of improvement.
Speech Language Pathologist Martha Manthie reported that Kyle was eventually able to follow gestures and make some guttural sounds. But as his strength and alertness grew, so did his impatience.
"He started to be impulsive," Manthie said. "He was easily distracted during his therapies. As he gained more and more awareness of his deficits, he became frustrated. Who wouldn't?"
As time went on, Kyle's frustration became plainly evident: he began having emotional and behavioral outbursts.
"He was particularly frustrated with his communication ability," Manthie said. "So we worked on establishing communication by head nods, or 'thumbs up' or 'thumbs down.' It helped relieve some of his frustration. Eventually, he progressed to the point where he began learning some words."
Manthie said that because Kyle had been getting his nourishment from a feeding tube for so long, her speech therapy team needed to work with him on another fundamental: learning how to eat again. "We worked with him on coordinating his swallowing," she explained.
In addition to eating and communicating, Kyle also needed to learn how to walk again.
"Our physical therapy team initially worked with Kyle on basic functional mobility like moving in and out of bed, and standing," said Physical Therapist Michelle Peterson. "There were also a lot of strengthening exercises. Later, when he was stronger and up on his feet, we worked with him on improving his balance, his endurance, and his gait pattern."
Kyle was improving, slowly but steadily. Eventually he reached a point where Occupational Therapists Mandy Smoot and Chantel Ostrem could begin teaching him some simple life skills.
"We worked with him on daily living activities such as brushing his teeth, getting dressed, combing his hair, even preparing simple meals," Smoot explained.
"We also worked with Kyle on improving his upper extremity function," Ostrem said. "Eventually, Kyle was able to perform his self care routine by himself, using a sequence of photographs of his personal items, like his comb or toothbrush."
The End of the Beginning
Today, nearly six years after his catastrophic injury, Kyle lives in his own house in the St. Paul suburb of Inver Grove Heights. His dad, Tim, and older brother Mat live there with him to provide the continuous care Kyle will need for the rest of his life.
"Kyle has made great progress," Tim explained, "but he still needs around-the-clock care. We got him this house for one reason and one reason only — for him to have the knowledge and security that he always has a home. He's living in his home town, the town where everybody knows him, the town where he won his state wrestling championship when he was in high school."
Tim Anderson emphasized that family involvement plays an enormous role in the recovery of any Veteran who has sustained a traumatic brain injury.
"These kids need to know they are still loved," he said. "They need to know that someone's going to be there to look out for them."
Kyle holds down a part-time job as a housekeeping assistant at the Minneapolis VA, where he continues therapy to improve his strength and language skills. He exercises, goes to the movies, attends wrestling matches at his old high school — all the things you'd expect a normal 25-year-old to do.
"That neurosurgeon who saved my son's live in Baghdad performed a miracle," Anderson said. "Then the people at VA performed a miracle of their own. Kyle is up and walking around now. He's got over 500 words in his vocabulary. He's becoming more and more independent. He even went on safari in Africa."
Tim Anderson said VA continues to provide him with the support and encouragement he needs, answering any questions he might have about how to best take care of his son. "If I need to know something, they're always right there for me," he said. "The VA is good about that. You've got to hand it to them."
Dr. Larisa Kusar, medical director of VA's Polytrauma Rehab Center in Minneapolis, served as Kyle's primary doctor during his year-long stay at the center. "We're proud of Kyle," she said. "He still has a disability, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a rewarding life. He's enjoying his life, which is all that matters to us. It means we did our job."
By Tom Cramer, VA Staff Writer


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Forbidden Valley Siege was a pre-alpha PvP Minigame. 4-8 players were able to side with Ninja or Pirates, 2-4 to a team, with the Ninja attacking a Pirate base to steal barrels, and the Pirates defending them. Three barrels would have to be stolen for the Ninjas to win the round, while the Pirates would have to defend for 5 minutes. The Pirates would have had thirty seconds to Quick Build defenses. If a barrel was dropped, it would have teleported back to the Pirate base after ten seconds on the ground. Players would have been able to build offensive and defensive structures such as walls, mines, bridges, turrets, bouncers, and gates, as well as being able to destroy the other team's structures. Players would have respawned five seconds after being smashed. The two placeholder team names were "Team Chuckles" and "Team Blockhead".[1]
Forbidden Valley Siege would have been reskinned with a castle theme and released with the Kingdoms World as Capture the Princess. Although gameplay would have been exactly the same, the barrels would have been replaced by princesses and the Pirates and Ninjas would have been replaced by Lion and Dragon Knights.[2]
- A minimap for a similar test world, "Steve's Attack/Defend Test Map", was found in a beta client. This map was later shown in a video recorded by a LEGO Universe developer.
- The map files for Forbidden Valley Siege are still present in the game data, and can be loaded.
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The weekend is fast approaching, so we must cheer: High School playoffs; the Badgers (On Wisconsin!); and the Packers (dunh, dunh, da…Go Pack Go!). Our friends at ESPN 540 are covering all the Homestead Highlanders Division 1 playoff games (with a little support from Sprecher) since Homestead won't be able to play any games on their home field (paperwork snafu). For those of you not near a radio during game time, here's a hint: you can get the playoff Sprecher tour special (buy 1 get 1 free) by calling 414.964.2739 and saying the magic words: "Division 1 Playoffs!" when you make your tour reservations.
Indeed, it's Halloween weekend. Ghosts and goblins of all ages are welcome to take the extra scary tours, full of treats; no tricks. Sprecher is a Halloween Safe Spot again this year. P.S. It's officially trick or treat in Glendale 1-4pm on Saturday so you can score some extra candy from the neighbors when you visit the brewery.
Football, Halloween, Fall…its time for some great beers that compliment the sports, weather, foods and smells of the season. Recently bottled: Sprecher Dopple Bock. If you like a smooth lager with suggestions of caramel and dark roasted malts, try this divine beverage in a snifter or wine glass. At 8.0% ABV, this is a great beer for lingering over. Serve it at 50-60 degrees for maximum aromatics and flavor. Great match for steaks and stews, or after dinner dark chocolates. Also available: Bourbon Barrel Aged Dopple Bock…total treat.
Not seen since the 90s, but back in the bottle now: Sprecher Dunkle Weizen. Note the intriguing spelling. That's the only thing that's a wee bit different. That and the fact it's available in a 12oz bottle in the Sprecher Gift Shop. This is the same classic dark roasted malt ale that is the ultimate session beer for this time of year. 4.65% ABV, serve at 45-50 degrees. Drink with good friends and great food.


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Popular dubstep artist, Borgore, known for his raunchy beats and even raunchier wordplay came to wow his fans in Tempe just between his two big weekend performances at Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival.
Borgore brought his Flex Tour to Tempe, Arizona's School of Rock on Mill Avenue with Document One, a dubstep duo growing in popularity from support by big time artist.
The Israeli 24-year-old pounded the eardrums of the full-house electro show Thursday. The audience was crammed full of "dude-bros" wearing skateboarding branded shirts and girls attempting to dance in wedges or heels.
Asaf Borger, better known by his stage name Borgore, is a former drummer for the death metal band Shibira. Although Borgore was drawn to the Israel's club scene which is primarily house and trance, he still is influenced by his earlier genre.
Document One played a long set list. "Clap", "Rising Higher", and "Moving Together" built the crowd's energy and got the room ready for the headliner.
The rowdy crowd sang along with popular songs such as "Nympho" and "Delicious" while sweating out ethanol. The venue's security was quick to stop any moshing that are typical at Borgore shows.
Borgore's lyrical prowess relies heavily on innuendo, so it wasn't much of a surprise when dancers came on stage wearing only underwear and pasties of the artist's face.
Instead of trying to stem the incessant tide of illicit music downloads, Borgore accepts it as internet fandom and owes his success to viral self-promotion. Buygore, Borgore's website, even gives out free album downloads.
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Sweet and Sour Chicken
Recipe by lawmama
Haven't tried this yet either, but it's a must-order when we go to Chinese food, so looking forward to giving it a try. Adapted from mykitchencafe.blogspot.com
Top Review by AZPARZYCH
This was so quick to get in the oven and has a great flavor; not too sweet and not too salty. I liked dipping the chicken in cornstarch instead of flour, made it a lot crispier and helped to thicken the sauce. I added a few chunks of pineapple after it came out of the oven for a little sweetness. Made and reviewed for 2012 Spring PAC.
Ingredients Nutrition
- 3 boneless skinless chicken breasts
- 1 cup cornstarch
- 2 eggs
- 1⁄4 cup canola oil
- 1 cup brown rice
- 3⁄4 cup sugar
- 4 tablespoons ketchup
- 1⁄2 cup vinegar
- 1 tablespoon soy sauce
- 1 teaspoon garlic salt
Directions See How It's Made
- Preheat oven to 325.
- Cut boneless chicken breasts into chunks.
- Season with salt and pepper.
- Dip chicken in cornstarch and then in beaten egg.
- Fry in a little oil until brown but not cooked through.
- Place in a single layer in a baking dish.
- Mix sauce ingredients (last five ingredients in the list) together and pour over chicken.
- Bake for one hour at 325 degrees. Turn chicken every 15 minutes.
- About 45 minutes before chicken is done, prepare rice according to package directions.
- If you like extra sauce, make another batch of sauce and bring it to a boil on the stovetop. Stir constantly and let cook over medium heat until thickened and reduced - about 6-8 minutes.
- Serve over hot, cooked rice.


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(CNSNews.com) - A new report says that after years of increased spending, states are spending less than usual in fiscal 2008, and that next year their spending will decrease. Lobbyists for the states view the development as dire, but lower-tax advocates find it heartening.
This is a "significant weakening in state finances," according to the report, issued by the National Association of State Budget Officers (NASBO) and the National Governors Association (NGA).
But Chris Edwards, an economist at the Cato Institute, a libertarian group, said the report is nothing to worry about.
"If you look at the actual data, it shows that spending growth is slowing down a bit," he said. "But we've had this explosive spending growth in the past few years, so all things considered, there's been sort of a moderate adjustment in states' budgets, which is fine."
Compared with the average annual increase of 6.7 percent in state spending per year, such spending increased only 1.1 percent this year, and it is expected to decrease 2.4 percent in 2009. States fiscal years typically run from July until June.
Additionally, 20 states have received less tax revenue than they originally expected. Thirteen of those 20 states have been forced to cut their budgets.
But Edwards noted that those cuts have totaled just 0.06 percent of total state spending. Most coverage of the report has ignored that point, he said.
"When the report gets translated into the mainstream liberal media, it seems like states are having to throw people into the streets and cut children off ... but I don't think that's the case," he said. "It's okay that states tighten their belts when the economy slows, because that's what American families have to do as well."
When expenditures exceed tax revenues, states do not have the option of simply accumulating debt like the federal government does because of higher interest rates and closer political scrutiny. Additionally, 49 out of 50 states have balanced budget amendments, meaning that they are legally obligated to spend as much as they take in each year. The federal government is under no such obligation.
"Unlike the federal government, which can just print money or run a deficit ... [the states] just have to deal with it," said Scott Pattison, executive director of NASBO. "You could use reserves, you could do some debt -- again it's not the same type of debt the federal government could use -- you could cut spending, or you could cut people that are eligible for Medicaid, but you have to do something."
Pattison said Florida and California were two states that were hardest hit by the budget cuts. But Florida, which had to make the largest cut of any state, cut $1.5 billion dollars, or 2 percent of the $70 billion dollar budget. And Florida's budget has grown by 7.5 percent a year on average since 2001.
Ray Scheppach, executive director of the NGA, said that rising health care costs, education expenses, and other services are the reasons that state budgets typically grow. Medicaid spending is 22 percent of total state spending, the single largest expense. K-12 education is also costly, and an area that most lawmakers do not want to cut.
At least health care spending could be reined in, Edwards said. Every time a state pays for more health care through Medicaid, they get twice the return on their investment, because the federal government matches the funds, he said, adding that it creates an incentive to spend more.
"Medicaid growth is growing very quickly because they themselves have structured the system for that result," he said. "It's completely in their control to cut and reform their Medicaid budgets."
Edwards said that should be done by capping the amount of federal funds distributed for Medicare, instead of allowing states to receive unlimited matching amounts.
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Leccinum aurantiacum Orange-Capped Bolete
Caps are 5-20 cm across, hemispherical to convex, dry, minutely hairy or scaly, orange-yellow to rusty or orange-brown. Flesh is white to brownish staining wine-red then grey to black. Tubes are white to grey. Pores are tiny and round. Stalks are up to 20 cm tall by 5 cm wide, white to brownish, with red-brown or black dots. Spore prints are yellow-brown. It fruits under birch and poplar. Edible.


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Flames End Season with Unbeaten Streak
The Flames closed the season unbeaten in their last eight contests. Liberty finished the year with a 5-0-3 record in its last eight matches, a streak which started on Oct. 14 with a 3-0 victory over Southern Virginia. The eight-game streak ties the Flames for the seventh-longest unbeaten streak in the country with UCLA. Mid-American Conference Champion and No. 4-ranked Akron has the longest unbeaten streak in the nation, running off 16 consecutive games without a loss (13-0-3).
The Flames' current streak is the third longest in program history. The longest unbeaten streak ever by a Liberty team was in 1985, as the Flames opened the year without dropping a contest over 14 games (12-0-2).
Liberty also finished the year tied for 11th in the final South Atlantic Regional Poll with VCU. Maryland topped the final regional ranking.
"I'm very proud of this group and what they accomplished on and off the field of play this year," stated Liberty Head Coach Jeff Alder. "We lost nine seniors from last year's Big South Championship team and then we had to overcome the loss of Darren Amoo, who was ranked seventh in the country in scoring after the third game of the season, with a knee injury.
"This group really grew together as the season progressed, which was a true blessing for our staff to witness each day. The run that we had to finish the season was quite remarkable, and it is just a shame that we ran out of time. I felt we were playing our best soccer in the tournament and did well enough to earn a tie with a tremendous Winthrop team. The relationships that were forged this year and the lessons learned through the soccer experience will make all of us better in the future."
The Flames completed 2008 with a 10-5-3 mark. It was the second consecutive season Liberty has won 10 games, after last year's 13-5-2 record. It is the first time since 1998 and 1999 that the Flames have posted two consecutive 10-win seasons.
Current Unbeaten Streaks
1. Akron (16)
2. Tulsa (15)
3. Creighton (13)
4. Maryland (11)
5. UC Irvine (10)
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In order to grasp all that John has accomplished, you have to remember what America was like forty years ago. When John and a handful of young visionaries opened NRDC in 1970—raw sewage floated through our cities, waterways were so polluted they caught on fire, and smog hung so heavily that skyscrapers and nearby mountains were routinely obscured.
He also believed that those responsible for endangering the environment must be stopped. He and his NRDC colleagues set out to do something that had never been done before: they held polluters accountable in court on behalf of ordinary citizens.
And they won. They took on giant corporations and the federal government, and they secured the victories that got lead out of gasoline, made cities build sewage treatment plants, helped reduce acid rain, prompted cars to become 90 percent cleaner than they were in the 1970s, and much, much more.
These victories have made a concrete difference in all our lives, and we have John to thank for them.
John has the tenacity and fighting spirit to pursue a case or legislation for decades. He has the vision to tackle not just today's problems, but to look toward the future—to confront climate change and the collapse of the world's oceans long before others grasped the urgency.
But more than anything, John has the faith that America can become a cleaner, healthier nation.
And he has inspired us to continue realizing that potential. John has been a mentor to several generations of advocates. His high standards and his genuine warmth bring out the best in those around him. I feel very lucky to have learned not only from John's leadership, but also from his loyalty and friendship.
President Obama's announcement recognizes that John is the man who had the vision and fortitude to launch the modern environmental movement and to build one of the world's most prominent and effective advocacy organizations.
On behalf of NRDC's Board, our staff and the more than 1.3 million members and activists, congratulations to John for a lifetime of service to the planet. Thank you to a man who truly is a force for nature.
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