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Intel's Silvermont: A New Atom Architectureby Anand Lal Shimpi on 5/12/2011 6:18 PM EST
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jrs77 - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - link..but keep it x86 pretty please.
I'm a fan of the current Atoms when paired with ION-graphics. I use them for my HTPC, my netbook, and I even use one as NAS that let's me run an MMO-client (EvE Online) for dual-accounting.
If they can increase performance to a level of a, let's say, a 2GHz Core2Duo + HD5450 while keeping the power-consumption at it's curent level, then this'd be awesome. Reply
DanNeely - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkThat seems possible. The closest comparison I could find was a 2.2ghz C2D, and it led the D510 atom by a factor of 2-3 depending on the benchmark. Dropping from 45 to 22nm will get 4x the die space to play with, so going quad core even on the same architecture will get you close even before process enhancements.
I think the GPU gap's a lot bigger though. OTOH if the GPU is about 3/8ths of the die area of a dual core atom (half of a single core, with the cpu being one third, and the remainder being memory/io controllers). Even if the size of the memory/io controllers triples, keeping the die size the same would let Intel increase the GPU size to 7x it's current value (4 + 3 + 1 =8, vs 8 + 21 + 3 = 32); which might be enough extra power to pull it off. Reply
duploxxx - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkwhy wait for atom, next gen of brazos due early Q1 2012 will have that level of performance perhaps a bit lower on CPU but right on for GPU :). atom 32nm shrink will be a dull. Reply
Sihastru - Saturday, May 14, 2011 - linkWhy you say?
Well, because E350 and all future APUs from AMD are driverless on Server 2008 R1/R2, they also have problems on Linux systems (like Ubuntu).
AMD, in their moronic wisdom, decided to actively block their drivers to install on "Server" OSes. And not only APUs, also any Radeon GPU.
On the other hand Intel and nVidia, even they don't hide the fact they do not support said operating systems, will still allow you to install their Vista/7 drivers.
Not supporting an operating system is one thing, but actively blocking the driver installation is just stupid.
That's why... Reply
Griswold - Sunday, May 15, 2011 - linkYou and who else cares using these platforms with a server OS?
An non-issue. Reply
Sihastru - Monday, May 16, 2011 - linkJust me and the 1000s of students that got that OS from MSDN for free. A low power system seems like a good idea to me to use with a 24/7 box.
Here is another non issue: Flash Player 10.x lacks support for the UVD3 AMD implementation. All reviews on the interweb were done using an AMD supplied Flash Player 10.2 (=hacked), that normal people like us don't have access to. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but what it means is that you can't playback any 720p/1080p flash video without huge stuttering.
Some other non-issues: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4134/the-brazos-revi...
I could go on, but I'm bored. Reply
zephxiii - Thursday, May 19, 2011 - linkI've actually found old thinkpads (T60-T61) (C2d or Core Duo powered) to be great for playing around with OSes like that. Low power with builtin battery, keyboard, and monitor all in one. ...and the C2D has 64bit + virtualization.
Right now i'm using a Thinkpad T43 Centrino 1.8ghz as a pfsense firewall/router and it uses 16 watts with screen on lowest setting....not sure what its using with its screen off (it's normal state) but I can tell you the older Thinkpad R31 PIII 1.1ghz I bought for 110 bucks to replace it uses 14 watts with the screen off. Reply
strikeback03 - Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - linkMy T43 with the 1.86GHz processor used 10-11W with the screen closed. Hopefully i can revive it, it just completely died a few months ago and with moving and setting stuff up I haven't had time to check the fuses or bake the motheboard. Reply
Prosthetic Head - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - linkI'm currently running an E350 as a linux powered HTPC - no problems. Reply
Link20 - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkYeah but it will come out to what arm has to offer at the time.
How can you be a fan of atoms?they suck. They are just cheap.only e350 net books are kinda adequate... Reply
jrs77 - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkARM is not x86-architecture and therefore can't run the usual software.
And I'm only a fan of Atoms, if they're bundled with ION-graphics. The E-350 wasn't around when I bought my three Atom/ION-based systems. Additionally Linux (Ubuntu) has problems with AMD-based systems, as AMD has crap driver-support for Linux all around.
So for my needs, there's nothing better around then Atom/ION-based systems. They run all the software they need to run and they draw a maximum of 35Watts from the plug under load.
Oh... and you won't find E-350 mini-ITX boards with an onboard PSU aswell ;) Reply
poopypants_johnson - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkAMD doesn't have problems with Linux drivers, in fact, over the past few years, they've established themselves as the premier Linux-supporting hardware company. Brazos isn't quite working properly yet with the FOSS Radeon drivers, but it works perfectly with the Catalyst blob. Nvidia's blob has been on the decline for quite some time, and Nvidia does not support the FOSS Nouveau driver like AMD does. For that matter, Sandy Bridge doesn't work right yet either, and there is no workaround for that. Reply
Rick83 - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkIf you need Video acceleration on Linux, forget AMD even exists. It's nVidia (VDPAU) or tears of frustration, that's how bad xvba/uvd2 support is. Reply
Prosthetic Head - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - linkAgreed, the "AMD is rubbish on linux" myth is starting to really annoy me. In fact in my experience the relative performance of AMD and Intel chips on linux relative to windows favors AMD on linux (my guess would be most windows benchmarks are compiled with better optimization for intel chips).
Nvidia GPUs have given me more grief recently than ATI/AMD. Nvidia used to be well ahead in terms of linux support but that just isn't the case any more. AMD are also being more co-operative in getting usable open drivers for their hardware out where as nvidia seem to be activly fighting efforts.
The only area where AMD/ATI are behind on linux is in video decode acceleration support. It's apparently being worked on but at the moment not up to much. Reply
Griswold - Sunday, May 15, 2011 - linkYou contradict yourself. If Linux is your OS of choice, then running any software you want to run on an ARM platform is possible. Reply
ProDigit - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkYou can run windows natively, without using as much battery as AMD's offer.
Atoms are currently the only cpu's that can run Windows on a machine with long battery life.
Usually ARM is in the likes of ~ 13 hours but don't run windows, Atom ~ 8 hours, AMD E-series ~ 5 hours.
it all depends on the battery size of course, but I do think the 32nm Atoms definitely are something to be gotten.
I do however not see any benefit in running an ION platform,as AMD outperforms it easily. Reply
e36Jeff - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkaccording to the last Brazos test, E-350 has better relative battery life than a D550 + 3150(7.67min/Whr vs 6.69min/Whr), and its totally destroys any of the atom + ion configurations(best one was 5.48min/Whr). In fact, the only setup that beat the E-350 in relative battery life was the N450 + 3150(9.48min/Whr), which beat the crap out of everything in the test. But i think most of us can agree that an E-350 with 7-8 hrs of life is more useful than an N450 with 8-10 hrs of life.
data from this test: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4218/amds-brazo-e350...
and just for the record, two of the E-350's only dropped below 5 hours battery life during the h.264 test, and even the N450 dropped down to 5.5 hrs in that test. In the other 2 tests, they were above 7 hours. The main issue with the E-350 not getting great battery life is manufactuers not putting large batteries in them. Reply
erple2 - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkthat's not quite right - the DM1Z reviewed here (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4187/hp-dm1z-taking-... shows 8 hours, 20 min at idle, and about 5 hours 15 minutes "doing stuff" (which, incidentally, the ASUS 1001P gives about 30 extra minutes of battery life at). Reply
ClagMaster - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkPerhaps the FSB was retained all these years because its a technology that works and easly supports the bandwidth of the Atom processors until the transition to 22nm transistors.
The objective of Atom was high performance-to-power ratios, not performance or embracing the latest and greatest bus technology featured with the Nahelem processors have because of their vastly superior performance.
Evidently bandwidth requirements have come to the point where the FSB needs to be replaced. Reply
qwertymac93 - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkAtom having SB level graphics is insane? Just the opposite, Brazos already has better graphics then SB and that's on a 40nm fab tech. If intel can't match SB performance on a process that, in your own words might be as small as 1/4th the size, They've got some big problems. Reply
starfalcon - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkWhat?
Looks like in these eight games Brazos can't match SB for graphics performance. Reply
mianmian - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkKeep in mind that E350 has a MUCH weaker CPU performance. The lower FPS would mostly due to the weak core. Reply
starfalcon - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkYeah, it's only at 8.5 GBs of graphics bandwidth also while SB systems are at 21.3 GBs, seems to be pretty far behind in 3DMark also, which is that at least somewhat CPU limited also?
Obviously not made for serious gaming but it's still faster than ION looks like. Reply
poopypants_johnson - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkYeah, but that's comparing a 35w, 2.5ghz CPU to an 18w, 1.6ghz CPU. Graphics can't do it all by themselves, especially when the CPU has a low clockspeed. If you compare the GPUs:
Intel's 12EU equals about 48 AMD SPs, running at ~1000mhz vs AMD's 80 SPs running at 400mhz.
So basically, the horsepower should be comparable, but Intel's is far less efficient and scalable, and takes up far more die space. The reason Intel's next gen graphics only has 16EU is because their architecture sucks, it won't scale near linearly like AMD's or Nvidia's. Reply
dagamer34 - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkSo to sum up what you've said. Intel is about as good making GPUs as Microsoft is making a good mobile operating system. They've certainly improved from the past, but there are several examples of companies just doing it better. Reply
StevoLincolnite - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkCan't forget drivers, they are probably the biggest issue, they are poor and buggy, they make AMD and nVidia's drivers look like they're gold plated in comparison.
AMD and nVidia have massive driver development teams and have spent years honing and fine tuning the drivers for better performance and compatibility, Intel still has a long way to go in that regard.
Heck didn't it take Intel a year or so just to add TnL and Shader Model 3 capabilities to it's drivers after the x3100 IGP released? Even then the TnL still sucked and Intel went with a profiling system so some games used software TnL.
These days if it doesn't have an nVidia or AMD GPU I am simply not interested. Reply
ProDigit - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkJust to interject,
we all want to play games on netbooks, but they never where intended to run games on.
If you want games, go with AMD, or wait until forever, when AMD and Intel become one, and they actually merge an AMD graphics unit on an Atom die.
But until then, Intel won't beat AMD in the gaming section, and at best is a super efficient processor inbetween ARM and AMD, but running windows.
Buy Intel if you need a device to do the basics with, and that needs a +10hrs battery life. Buy AMD if you play games. Intel and Nvidia (ION platform) is a dying breed. Reply
duploxxx - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkwatch those SB scores to be killed in 3-4 weeks when LIano arrives :)
a HD2000 level would be to weak against competition in 2013, perhaps in the low power systems sure, but not the level of netbook Reply
starfalcon - Sunday, May 15, 2011 - linkAlso note how a HD 5470 which is faster than Brazos gets beat by SB graphics, so Brazos graphics aren't better than SB.
Would be impressive if Ivy Bridge gets to around Llano levels also, depending on the system. Reply
starfalcon - Sunday, May 15, 2011 - linkAlso, it makes me laugh when someone is happy or saying Llano is going to kill SB graphics, think about what you are saying. Reply
L. - Monday, May 16, 2011 - linkNot going to happen.
For Ivy Bridge to reach Llano levels, it would need a real GPU.
So either one coming from AMD or one coming from nVidia.
And besides, the comparison between Intel 2000/3000 and HD 5450 has been done by anand and it's really clear both are tied, with the AMD poor-man's board leading on the good games.
The main thing to remember is the following :
Brazos is CPU / GPU balanced for the modern days.
Intel Core processors with even the 3000 igp are a joke, anyone buying those cpu's wouldn't care less for the on-die gpu.
Llano is going to be balanced, just as brazos is, and will therefore not be in the same class as SB.
Both not being in the same market segment means none will kill the other, but there is an extremely high chance all-round cheap systems built with Llano will do some damage on the market segments above and below it, because of the unmatched performance / price. Reply
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkAnd naming chips for mountains in a punny way is hilarious. But can I just say that I really love that NVIDIA is naming their chips after superhero aliases. I can't wait to see which Flash they choose. And Green Lanterns! The possibilities are endless! Reply
jjj - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - link"By 2013 we should be seeing smartphones based on Tegra 3 and 4 (codename Wayne and Logan)"
Kal-El is most likely Tegra 3 even if they avoid naming it that (for now).Logan i guess might be Project Denver since it's in 2013 .
The big question is what 2013 means for Atom,sampling or actual phones hitting retail.By 2013-2014 the ARM bunch might as well be on 20nm so Intel better hurry.I hope they get it out fast but I do wonder what is up with Intel lately since they keep messing up .Larabee,the G3 SSD,the always far from perfect GPU's,Atom and it's significant faults,P67-Z68.Maybe Intel is getting a bit too cocky (so much so that we need a mainstream socket and a high end socket- had to say it ,it just pisses me off).
Anyway competition is fun and as Andorid,QNX,WebOS and maybe others (Apple got to unify it's OS sooner or later too) scale up ,thngs will be even more fun. Reply
KMJ1111 - Thursday, May 12, 2011 - linkThe problem I see with Intel in the future is that as low end performance increases substantially, at a lower cost, they will cut into their more powerful chips. I mean, the bulk of everyday users and emerging market economy users will be advantaged in that ARM chips and low end chips should in theory offer daily functional use and little strain to power grids. At the same time, the middle range chips for Intel will lose some of their value in these areas because performance will be good enough. I mean, wasn't part of the problem with the original atom in theory that they had to limit their power so they wouldn't kill other parts of their market?
If they have to compete with increasing ARM performance and power consumption, I see it as quite a predicament for Intel. Server wise they will probably remain dominant unless other aspects of the market change, but if they want to retain a market or gain brand identity in a market, they cannot limit the power of the lower end chips. I mean, sticking with atoms they do retain the ability to run X86 instructions, but my phone now can do many of my day to day functions and how useful the added extra processes are for average end users seems to be diminishing to me. Some of this probably comes from reading all about Google's presentations and their thoughts on how future computing will be run and distributed, but with Microsoft also building an ARM OS that will probably be able to strip out many of the legacy supports to offer a speedy experience, it seems like there is going to be a big change and computing power that is needed for the end user. Reply
mckirkus - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkYes. This. I've heard it called the "good enough" factor. Once it's good enough for most day to day tasks, battery life becomes a major factor in mobile/tabled devices. Even if atom is clock for clock twice as fast (due to OoE, cache, etc.) if it eats 4x the power it's a non-starter.
Now we could see some interesting distributed alternatives to HTTP in the next ten years that require cpu/bandwidth to buy currency in a distributed social world (think bit-torrent share ratio), that works like folding@home with fancier networking, and that might swing things back in Intel's favor.
In my mind, Intel needs to hire some math majors from CalTech to focus on killer apps for their soon to be overkill processors. Reply
dagamer34 - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkWhile Intel can get away with what they call a GPU on it's desktop and mobile chips, I doubt anyone's that interested in using their GPUs when you get to the scale of smartphones and such, as OEMs really want a proven solution in their hardware. When you're competing against GPUs like the Adreno 220 (or 300 at that point) from Qualcomm, or the Tegra 3 or the PowerVR 5 series and eventually 6 series, I don't think Intel can afford to be a slouch in that market. They may have the best die process, but Intel's definitely shown they have a lot of difficulty using it effectively when it comes to non-CPU components (i.e. Larrabee and Intel GMA series). Reply
Mike1111 - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkI'm not sure that Silvermont will really matter by then. Sure, if it's as good as ARM SoCs or even a bit better then Intel will get a few design wins. But I don't really see the incentives for most device manufacturers to switch, unless Silvermont is at least 50% better overall then the ARM competition (and not worse in any category) for a cheaper price. And don't forget that with ARM you have the choice between at least three high-end SoCs from different manufacturers or you can even design your own chips. And more and more stuff gets shifted to the cloud, too.
By the end of 2013 we probably have devices with the second gen of Cortex-A15 SoCs @22nm/20nm with a quad-core Cortex-A15 and the second iteration of IMG's Series 6. And high-end tablets will probably have >=1080p resolutions, 2GB RAM and 3rd/4th gen LTE chips. What I mean by that is that we'll be with tablets where we are now with PCs: current hardware is good enough for most people and most tasks. Of course sofware and the whole ecosystem will play a huge role: e.g. even though last year's(!) MacBook Air is vastly underpowered in terms of specs, most people using it for most tasks will find it to be a snappy machine and good enough. Reply
Shadowmaster625 - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkCan you get a review of one of these chips? (And/or the B810) I cannot be sure but I think the die size on this chip is 140mm^2. So at 22nm we're talking 100mm^2. Talk about an incredibly powerful chip for 100mm^2. If they took one of those chips, cut the cache in half they could easily make it 70mm^2. With the ultra low voltage operation improvements, as well as the reduced cache, it should be easy enough to get this under 5W. This chip would be a monster in a netbook. I'm more interested in this than in atom. Reply
L. - Monday, May 16, 2011 - linkAt 22nm, you will have brazos-style chips from anyone in the arm-cloud + amd that will have the performance of a Llano in a 10 watts TDP more or less (and yes, llano is not out but you can imagine it beats my config : c2d @ 3.89 + hd4850).
And thus .. what would be the point of a shrinked celeron, a shrink of the worst kind of cpu ever made, that is already so low on cache you can feel it. Reply
iwod - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkLet just say GPU will be the same and most ARM and Atom will be based on PowerVR Gen 6.
Then the only difference would be the CPU.
I keep wonder, why do we have to keep all those MMX and useless instruction on a Mobile / Smartphone CPU when 99.9% of the Apps will have to be rewritten anyway. Why not take those out to spare the transistors.
22nm 2nd Gen Atom with Out of Order WILL surely be enough for a smartphone, but at what power lv?
I still think ARM will have the advantage in terms of power / performance and flexibility. Reply
ProDigit - Friday, May 13, 2011 - link
"I keep wonder, why do we have to keep all those MMX and useless instruction on a Mobile / Smartphone CPU when 99.9% of the Apps will have to be rewritten anyway. Why not take those out to spare the transistors."
To keep compatibility!
There are a lot of programs ran on older and slower computers (like netbooks).
It'd be good if those old instructions would be removed from desktop processors, not from these slower machines.
MMX is rarely used anymore when SSE(2/3/4) is available. Reply
iwod - Saturday, May 14, 2011 - linkTo keep compatibility of what? Smartphone Apps? There are NO x86 smartphone apps!.
That is why Intel should take this chance to re engineer x86. Reply
ProDigit - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkIt all sounds so nice, out of order, but by doing that you essentially get a celeron processor.
I figure intel could finally get to an "out of order" system because the 22nm processors would have the power envelope to do this!
Problems with 45nm designs where that the TDP was too big to fit them in netbooks and tablets.
If I where Intel, I would keep on using an 'in order' processor, to maximize battery life.
Essentially the new gen Atom processor would have slightly increased performance (about 20-30%) together with a ~50% more battery consumption. Give or take with a die shrink the battery consumption would be about 10% more than current Atom processors (in other words, ~10 hours of battery life become ~9;,, 5 hours become ~4,5.
The difference is neglegable, due to the increase in performance.
In other words, the step will be about as big as jumping from the N270 processor to the N475,or from the N450 to the N550.
Not too noteworthy.
If intel would keep their processors 'in order', they would gain battery life; compensate weakness by allowing dynamical overclocks, (turbo boost), and you'd have a processor that operates like a celeron (faster in some cases),with the power envelope coming very close to ARM territory; ON WINDOWS!
The news for Out of order technology is a blow to my face, and makes me the more resolute to go for the 32nm Atom processors released by the end of this year!
Out of order technology only benefit gamers and those who compress movies, or do heavy computing.
For viewing webpages and checking mails in order technology is all you need!
I think they are targeting the wrong market here!
People rather would push a celeron or ULV Core2duo in their netbooks, than an underpowered atom processor! Reply
ProDigit - Friday, May 13, 2011 - link...That is, an underpowered atom processor that has a TDP of an underclocked but higher performing C2duo or celeron. Reply
L. - Monday, May 16, 2011 - linkErrr .. wtf ?
aren't ulv c2d + gpu much worse than brazos in netbook use ?? Reply
Jaybus - Monday, May 16, 2011 - linkWell, the proposed move to OoOE is just speculation, of course. For a higher performance tablet or netbook, it would make more sense to shrink the Core i5-2437M, which is already at 17 W TDP at 32 nm, So, I'm not so sure the new Atom will indeed move to OoOE. Wouldn't make sense. Atom and ARM are not in the same league as Core Mobile, either in performance or price. This would appease those for whom "good enough" is NOT good enough. We've heard the "good enough" argument for many years. But good enough for what? Good enough for how long? Reply
dealcorn - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkLooking at its capital budget for fabs, dividend policy, and every word that comes out of their mouths, Intel is acting based on a sincere belief they have a very hot hand. Stay tuned in to see whether the early reports of Atom's demise were premature. I do not think this is a Zombie tale. Reply
KMJ1111 - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkI don't know if the dividend policy is a sign that they have a hot hand. They may be realizing that they are more like a utility company in some way (in that they cannot grow enough to create stock growth so to add investors they add dividends). They have been pretty stagnant for the last 5 years, if you take into account the market fall in general and have a similar range trend out 10 years (though some higher peaks). By no means do I think Intel is going away, but I'm thinking they are in for a fight for consumers in the future as I see the market and emerging markets as becoming very different personally. I've read some analyst projections that say 2015 is the year for ARM with 15% market share, so maybe they are trying to stave it off, and they might be very able to with this new chip...but...I think it will be a challenge.
They initially talked up the greatness of the atom for their bottom line and devices too if I remember correctly. I wouldn't see their blustering now as a sign of their future dominance. I mean, why not try to sell a product you are developing and creating to the best of your ability? To me I see it as them adding cost to a cheap chip with the new transistors, while having greater competition from cheaper and increasingly powerful ARM. That's not necessarily desirable. I mean, the fact that they have to fight to enter a market that is already established and has big name market players is never ideal. That is not an easy task. Not that I assume the revamped atom will be bad, but whether it will be able to land solidly in a market I have some doubts about. I wouldn't expect any less of them than to talk up their chips though; like they would say to everyone "Well this product is going to be crap compared to the competition and possibly a little more costly, BUT, we'll be able to give you a ton of them with X86 instructions..." Reply
Slumberthud - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkDiamondville is the codename of the Atom 230, 330, N270, and N280 processors. The platform that combines the Diamondville processor with the 945GMS (Calistoga) chipset is called Navy Pier. Reply
dealcorn - Friday, May 13, 2011 - linkActually, a decision to increase the regular dividend rate twice in a six month period is categorically not characteristic of utilities as it would imply poor financial forecasting in what is typically a stable, low growth business. In a cyclical, capital intensive business such as Intel's, this rapid rate of dividend increases does mean that management thinks their hand is pretty good. Similarly, the decision to increase the number of current process, high production fabs from 3 to 4 and the scaling up of developmental fabs suggests they see a need for this capacity. They may well be wrong, but their belief is sincere. Reply
KMJ1111 - Monday, May 16, 2011 - linkYou probably know more about markets than I do, but I see many of the old name tech players now on par with utilities in certain aspects. I see their dividend increases more similar to Microsoft than a utility per se, but think the dividend increase is only to retain investment despite their good performance otherwise. They have grown to a point where stock growth is no longer going to be able to provide the investor the returns which one would look for, so they use dividends to retain investment. That was where I thinking the correlation to utilities came from as they have generally higher dividend rates in a trade off for lower stock growth (it seems to me). That was why I mentioned their pretty stagnant stock trading range for the course of 5 and 10 years. It might be a very poor comparison to someone with more technical knowledge :-)
Anyway, I do think they think they have good technology, but I think they also have to worry about the level of performance in the chip they put out, as low end chips that perform good enough will cut into other areas of their margins IMO. Their competitors don't have the same worry as they are only increasing to reach more of where Intel is at and seem to be making some big strides at the moment. I own Intel stock and no ARM stocks (though I am looking at them), but don't expect to see much growth from Intel ever; at the same time I doubt they will disappear. Reply
skyline100 - Monday, May 16, 2011 - link"By 2013 we should be seeing smartphones based on Tegra 3 and 4 (codename Wayne and Logan) and ARM's Cortex A15."
AFAIK, the Tegra 2 is based on ARM's Cortex A9. And i thought the Tegra 3 and 4 are both based on ARM's CPU architecture too? Reply
L. - Monday, May 16, 2011 - linkTegra 3 and 4 = ARM stuff + (this one is important) nVidia stuff
ARM Cortex A15 implies anything else based on that from random people, including qualcomm and stuff. Reply


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- Initiation of a Recall. Includes voluntary, FDA requested, and FDA mandated.
- Determination that the Action is a Recall; Strategy; Classification. FDA formalizes the recall action by determining that the action meets the definition of a recall under 21 CFR 7.3(g)2 or the applicable definitions for recalls conducted under different regulatory or statutory authorities. FDA reviews the information, including the recall strategy provided by the firm, assesses the health hazard presented by the recalled product, and classifies the recall in accordance with 21 CFR 7.41.
- Notification and Public Warning. FDA notifies the firm of necessary changes in its recall strategy, including the need for press releases, and the classification of the recall. The Agency may issue its own press release announcing a firm's recall. For food recalls conducted under Section 423 of the Act (as amended by Section 206 of the FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA), FDA ensures that a press release is published regarding the recall, as well as alerts and public notices; as appropriate under section 423(g) of the Act. FDA posts information about recalls on the FDA's Internet site www.fda.gov. FDA provides certain recall information to other federal and state government agencies and to foreign governments.
- Monitoring and Auditing the Recall. FDA develops and implements a recall audit program to ensure that the recall action has been effective.
- Termination of a Recall. FDA determines when a recall should be terminated and, upon such determination, provides written notification of termination to the recalling firm.
Finally, FDA may take appropriate regulatory action or other measures when the firm fails to recall violative product or when a recall action fails. Regulatory actions will be taken in consultation and coordination with the district compliance branch, the appropriate center recall and compliance staffs, OEIO/DE, and when indicated, the Office of Chief Counsel, when:
- a firm refuses to recall or sub-recall after being requested or ordered to do so by the FDA;
- a firm fails to complete a recall in a timely fashion; or,
- the agency has reason to believe that the firm's recall strategy is not effective.
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OPRM develops, coordinates, and reviews compliance policies and regulatory procedures that can relate to recalls. The office will review recall action memorandums if requested by OEIO/DE, particularly when a policy issue has been identified. OPRM will provide a written response to OEIO/DE.
7-3-3 Responsibilities and Procedures – Office of Enforcement and Import Operations/Division of Compliance Systems/Enforcement Systems Branch (HFC-240)
OEIO/DCS/ESB receives recall information from DE when the identified consignees include government agencies. DCS/ESB forwards the information, as appropriate, to the applicable government agencies. Such sharing of information supports the Government-Wide Quality Assurance Program (GWQAP). DCS/ESB prepares the weekly Enforcement Report from ORA's reporting system, works with the Center recall contacts to modify the report as necessary and published the report to FDA's website.
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New York City Victoria's Secret is eying international expansion, according to Women's Wear Daily.
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What is the opening point of these files(windows)?
Means what menus should I visit and where should I click that the window gets displayed on the screen.
I am unable to find.
Thanks for help in advance.
What is the opening point of these files/windows?
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DialogFullScreenInfo.xml = press 'I' while video is playing
DialogVideoInfo.xml - press 'I' while in the video list menu
PlayerControls.xml = press 'M' on the keyboard
SmartPlaylistEditor.xml = Go to Videos > Playlists > New smartplaylist
SmartPlaylistRule.xml - Found inside SmartPlaylistEditor.xml
MusicOverlay.xml and VideoOverlay.xml will appear when there is media currently playing, respectively.
Someone else with more knowledge will have to take the rest though I don't think DialogGamepad is used anymore.
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Check the Foundation thread for images with the XML labels on them for an idea of what they do or just grab Foundation and check the screenshot folder.
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DialogGamepad is used if you set a button/gamepad based lock somewhere.
the karaoke ones are used.. when you play karaoke.
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Here is what I have found so far:
To display,
DialogGamepad.xml = Click on System Setttings -> Master Lock -> Master Lock Code and settings -> Master Lock(...) -> Gamepad button combo
SmartPlaylistEditor.xml=Visit Videos Section goto Root level -> Playlists -> New Smart Playlist... or Party mode Playlist
SmartPlaylistRule.xml=Visit Videos Section goto Root level -> Playlists -> New Smart Playlist... or Party mode Playlist -> New rule...
DialogVideoInfo.xml = while viewing available video files press i when a video file is selected/highlighted, that will display a window with selected video information , but the window will not show up if no video info. is available for the selected video.
MusicKaraokeLyrics.xml= When we play any Karaoke song , which is usualy of extension .kar or .mid
A sound font file should be present here : .xbmc/userdata/timidity/soundfont.sf2
DialogKaraokeSongSelectorLarge.xml = Try to seek a playing karaoke song , some times it does not come but some times it is displayed and song stops.
DialogKaraokeSongSelector.xml = No idea yet
MusicOverlay.xml= No idea, I can't see it even in confluence while playing audio in fullscreen visualization mode.
VideoOverlay.xml= No idea, can't see while playing video in fullscreen in confluence.
DialogNetworkSetup.xml= No idea
DialogFileStacking.xml= No idea
DialogPeripheralManager.xml= No idea
DialogPeripheralSettings.xml= No idea
PlayerControls.xml= No idea
DialogFullScreenInfo.xml = it's in foundation skin but not in confluence , so may be optional
Hi, Hitcher thanks for reply but I want to know how to open these files window , not how it looks in image if it is already opened some how. Since you have taken screen shots of all the xml files, you must be knowing how did you displayed these files/window on screen.
help please...
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karaoke stuff: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=87971
peripherals stuff: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=115314
overlays will auto show when playing media and you have <allowoverlay>yes</allowoverlay> in your xml windows
PlayerControls, press 'm' while playing media, while not being in the fullscreen/visualization window
DialogFullScreenInfo, press 'i' in fullscreen video window
DialogFileStacking will show up when you try to play a stacked file (filemode only)
DialogNetworkSetup, add source > browse > add network location
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National polls measuring support during the primary season are suspect because we don't have national primaries. We have state-by-state primaries and caucuses.
A national poll measuring support five months ahead of the first caucus is beyond suspect. It is meaningless.
Having started out with that warning let me make another assertion: No matter how suspect, meaningless, pointless, or futile a poll might be it is still better to be in first place than it is to be way back in the pack.
That's why the poll released yesterday afternoon by CNN showing Gov. Rick Perry leading all comers with 27 percent of the respondents, opening a 13 percentage point lead over Gov. Mitt Romney (14%) and 18 points over Rep. Michelle Bachmann (9%) is excellent news for Perry.
That was the "ballot test" that included Sarah Palin (who got 10%) and former NY Mayor Rudy Giuliani (tied with Bachmann at 9 percent)
In the head-to-head question which excluded Palin and Giuliani, their votes were redistributed among the top three pretty evenly:
Perry 32
Romney 18
Bachmann 12
Before you send me an angry-gram; Ron Paul was at six percent in both measures - about tied with Newt Gingrich.
The subgroups in a poll are called "cross-tabs."
For instance, when Palin and Giuliani are included, Perry leads among men, women, and in all age groups. He leads among all income groups and has a higher level of support among those who have attended college (31%) than those who have no college experience (22%).
In the CNN survey, Perry led among independents (26%), moderates (18%) and conservatives (34%).
Wait! There's more!
Perry also led among Southern respondents (31%) and among suburbanites (32%) which were the only two geographic cross-tabs listed.
Finally, Perry led all his competitors among those who called themselves Tea Party supporters (37%) and among those who said they were Tea Party neutral (18%). The CNN sample apparently didn't include enough people who self-identified as "Tea Party oppose" to register in the poll.
Without Palin and Giuliani the percentages are slightly different, but the overall result is the same: There is no subgroup in this poll with which Rick Perry does not lead.
So, what does this mean for the rest of the GOP field? It may mean that Mitt Romney is going to have to begin actively running against his Republican opponents, especially Perry. Romney was able to go through the main part of the summer without having to engage - a strategy with which I agreed.
None of the other candidates were laying a glove on him, either on the campaign trail or in the two debates, and there was no reason for Romney to get away from his plan to be considered the de facto nominee and run against President Obama.
The Obama campaign managers returned the favor by making it clear they believed they would be running against Romney.
With Perry's entry into the race just over two weeks ago, Romney is no longer the front-runner, Michelle Bachmann has virtually disappeared from the news, and Tim Pawlenty has withdrawn.
None of this tells us what, if anything, will happen if Palin and/or Giuliani and/or former NY Governor George Pataki and/or others get into the race.
Nor does it tell us who will be standing on the stage in Tampa, Florida accepting the nomination of the Republican Party, exactly one year from now.
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The national Mediacracy is gazing into its collective naval trying to decide at what point the coverage of Hurricane Irene went over the top.
On the one hand there was very little serious property damage - as a function of the dire warnings. While three dozen people lost their lives, which are tragedies, it is possible to make the case that accidental deaths were actually down over the weekend because of the fairly significant decline in people driving, and thus, people driving into one another.
Here in Old Town Alexandria Virginia there was almost no damage. There were more satellite trucks looking for fallen trees than there were trees down.
However, had the storm tracked just 15 miles to the west over its long path (starting with that pesky butterfly on the Western Africa coast) the DC metro area would have gotten 13 inches of rain, instead of the 3.5 inches we did get.
"Plan for the worst" was a good idea. If you don't need all that tuna fish, cereal, bottled water and soup - donate it to a local church group. They'll find someone who does.
On the Secret Decoder Ring today: A link to the data from the CNN poll (a PDF file), definitions of both de facto (which is a real word) and "Mediacracy," (which I made up), and the official list of the names of hurricanes for the rest of 2011. Also, a Mullfoto of the damage in Old Town Alexandria, VA and a Catchy Caption of the Day.


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While only 200-ish days remain until the SIGGRAPH conference visits Los Angeles once again, Anaheim and Vancouver have been named as the following year's SIGGRAPH homes..
The SIGGRAPH Committee has officially announced the location cities for the 2013 and 2014 conferences. The 2013 Conference will be staged in the Anaheim district of California with Mk Haley as conference Chair. The 2013 SIGGRAPH show will celebrate the 40th International Conference and Exhibition from 21-25 July 2013. Haley will be celebrating her 25th year with SIGGRAPH, fulfilling a number of volunteer roles during this time, including Student Volunteer Chair, Emerging Technologies Chair, Director of Communications for the Executive Committee, and last year's conference director.
Then in 2014, SIGGRAPH will return to Vancouver CANADA. SIGGRAPH 2011 broke Vancouver's previous all-time conference attendance records. The 2014 SIGGRAPH conference will be from 10-14 August with Dave Shreiner as Chair. Shreiner is Director of Graphics Technology at ARM Inc. and has worked for the past 25 years as presenter and a volunteer.
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Last week was great, absolutely fantastic. Becky, Vegas and I spent a few days at a motel near Douglas Lake just kickin' back and enjoying life. It wasn't fancy and there was nothing special going on. We haven't done that in a while. My normal schedule is to always be working at something related to the fishing industry. This was definitely a change, and I think I like it.
It takes a while to calm down, though. It's like you're always looking for something related to your career to jump up, slap you up alongside your head and demand attention. Let's face it, that's the way I've lived most of my adult life. But then you realize that you can spend time doing something else, you really can, and the world doesn't end. In fact, it gets better.
I did have a little relapse, though. I have to confess to that. Vegas and I went trout fishing behind the motel one afternoon. It wasn't serious, and we spent more time laughing than fishing. Still, it was a relapse. I suppose I should admit that I'm a hopeless addict. If it swims in the water, I want to catch it. Is that a good thing, a bad thing, or just a thing? I'm not sure, sometimes.
From there we drove over to Becky's parent's house in Richmond for a birthday party for her mother. It was a surprise or I would have mentioned it last week. Actually, if I had mentioned it, Becky and her father would have put a contract out on me.
As I get older, I find myself liking things like that more and more. They seem to take on added importance every time we do one. No matter how successful you are it's your family that matters in the end. Their love and the good times you have with them will last a lot longer than your professional accomplishments.
That's not to say that professional accomplishments don't matter, however. They do. I'm working on them right now. It's Sunday evening and I'm trying to put everything together to make a good showing here at the Douglas Lake Challenge.
If you read this column regularly, you know I have three goals at the beginning of each year. I want to win at least one tournament, qualify for the Classic and win the Toyota Tundra Bassmaster Angler of the Year title. I'm still working on all three.
There's no win yet, although there's still time for that. The Classic qualification is far from a sure thing. I'm currently in 20th place. That might look good to some of you but you have to remember who I'm competing against. If you stumble or half-step they'll run right over the top of you.
The AOY race is far from over but if I'm going to win it I have to do better than I have been doing, starting this week. Basically it boils down to following my own advice — never give up!


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THE first VFL match at the MCG was played on May 15, 1897. It is impossible, of course, to identify the first patron to walk into the ground that day. Our guess is that he wore a fedora and a cravat, and strolled across the park from East Melbourne, barracked for Melbourne and left well satisfied: the Redlegs thumped Geelong that day.
It is not possible yet to say who will be the 100 millionth football fan to attend a match at the MCG, but the AFL has established when. By only slightly concocted coincidence, it will be either at the rematch of last year's grand finalists on May 18, or at the Dreamtime match the following night. A bit of pomp and ceremony is planned (and perhaps measures to make sure no one is locked out).
She - statistically, it is as likely to be a she as a he - will be the beneficiary of the latest research project of the AFL's indefatigable historian, Col Hutchinson, and two collaborators. In their windowless bunker at AFL headquarters in Docklands, they have collectively put an estimated 120 hours over 18 months of almost archeologically painstaking work into it (uncharacteristically, Hutchinson did not know the exact figure).
The first part of their digging was straightforward. In 1909, the MCG installed turnstiles. For a long time, the MCG's manager of turnstiles was prodigious Test opener Bill Ponsford, who, one way or another, spent a lifetime of amassing at the MCG.
With the help of the MCG library, Hutchinson found in the archives so-called ''stile'' books, recording all entries. From these, he calculated that from 1909 to the end of 2011, 97,403,013 people watched 2374 matches at the MCG.
The only grey in that figure is from the AFL-VFL's short-lived experiment with doubleheaders; it is impossible to say how many stayed for both matches. The figures are strictly for club football; state games have been excluded.
The earlier years required more forensic work. Football was played on the MCG as early as 1869 - though authorities still feared that it would ruin the ground for cricket - and regularly from the formation of the VFA, progenitor of the VFL, in 1879. There was a thriving football culture. Hutchinson was pleasantly, if incidentally, surprised to discover precise gatekeeping from that time, which is rather more than the Grand Prix Corporation manages at Albert Park now. To vary an old theme, truly it can be said that it is possible to put a man on the moon, but not on the gate at the grand prix.
Matches were fewer and farther between. Melbourne was the only tenant, though on occasions there were simultaneous matches at the MCG, Punt Road (home to Richmond) and the long-defunct East Melbourne ground (home to Essendon and University), which must have made for quite a carnival atmosphere.
Two finals were played at the MCG in 1897, but no more until 1902, again because cricket's needs took precedence. Altogether, 20 finals were played at the MCG up to 1909, attracting 522,015 people. These were published figures.
For home-and-away matches, Hutchinson and his cohorts studied newspapers: The Age, The Argus, the Geelong Advertiser, and especially late-edition Heralds, and made their own deductions. For that first Melbourne-Geelong game, for instance, the Advertiser said the crowd was ''very small'', the Herald ''miserable''. It is unclear, said Hutchinson drily, whether that referred to its size or disposition.
These musketeers were inventive. From published gate takings of $534 for one match, they calculated a crowd of 12,000. To fine-tune their calculations, they studied verifiable crowds from 1909 to 1913, before World War I skewed everything, and projected backwards, downsizing to allow for growing popularity.
There were lean times. But there were also times when the game outgrew the ground and fans sat inside the fence. Occupational health and safety was far in the future.
The biggest crowd was 121,696, at arguably the most famous match, the 1970 grand final. Pampered modern crowds would not recognise the habitat then: shorter fans would make mini-platforms of steel beer cans, the better to see, and it was not uncommon for the urinals to overflow. OH and S still was a long way into the future.
Comparatively, the MCG now is luxurious, on both sides of the fence. Blessedly, it is still simply the MCG, unlike other slatternly stadiums that change names so often they become unrecognisable, geographically and historically. Periodically, football people mutter about the cricket appellation, since football attracts 85 per cent of MCG crowds. Mostly, they are happy to live with and in the ground's transcending grandeur.
Indeed, Hutchinson wonders if any other stadium in the world has a patronage record like the MCG's, since most others are not as old, single purpose and are home to at most one club. Another project begs.
As of last weekend, the all-time MCG tally stands at 99.78 million. The AFL, never missing an opportunity, will reward the 100 millionth fan with four 10-year memberships, worth $30,000 today. Then the journey to 200 million will begin.


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FLORENCE, S.C. – The Nicki A. Ard Scholarship has been established at Francis Marion University by her brothers, Ken and Sammy Ard.
The late Nicki Ard was a 1995 graduate of FMU. Even though she was physically challenged all her life, she achieved much. Her music ministry and numerous speeches spread a message of hope and love to countless individuals across the country. She was crowned Miss Wheelchair USA in 2000.
"We are most appreciative of Ken and Sammy Ard creating this scholarship in their sister's memory," said Jay Dowd, FMU vice president for development and executive director of the FMU Foundation. "While perpetuating Nicki's memory, they also felt strongly about providing students from Florence County, in particular their home community of Pamplico, the opportunity to attend FMU."
The scholarship recipient must be a graduate of Hannah-Pamplico High School and must demonstrate financial need. If there is no such candidate, the recipient must have graduated from a high school in Florence County.


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With the latest Walkman phones packing 8GB of storage and impressive sonic pedigree, the line between MP3 players and music phones is blurring. And not just in terms of features – the new W350i even looks like a dedicated music device.
As a lower division Walkman handset, the W350i is designed for music snackers. With an almost W890i-esque slimline and lightweight torso, it'll have little impact on the pocket, while its soft paint finish is incredibly tactile but durable enough to survive the vagaries of on-the-fly living.
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With music controls dominating the front, the W350i looks every inch the MP3 player and it's not until you flick open the façade that its secret life as a phone is exposed. Sony Ericsson has plundered its distant Scandinavian past, circa 1999, for this flip design, clearly filching the idea from ye olde classics like the Ericsson T10 and T28. This action may be snappy but it feels pretty flimsy and definitely errs on the wrong side of retro.
Disappointingly, the W350i hasn't been afforded the latest third generation Walkman player, but the version 2.0 is still nifty enough. A dedicated side Walkman button returns you to your menu options when in music mode, while you get the Mega Bass toting equalizer to spice up your tunes.
Naturally, its audio performance is in the usual Walkman class, delivering a warm fidelity through the supplied earphones. Unlike its rival, the Nokia 5310 XpressMusic, there's still no space for integrated 3.5mm headphone socket, so you will have to make so with an adapter and a tangle of wires.
Severe storage issues
The W350i comes supplied with a 512MB Memory Stick Micro but its recommended maximum card dosage is 2GB, which stores around 500 good quality MP3s. Higher capacity cards will slow down the player's performance, so you can see the W350i is geared for music nibblers rather than the avid record collector.
To make up for this storage shortfall, Sony Ericsson has thrown in some neat mobile treats including TrackID recognition software and an FM radio, although the rather unremarkable 1.3MP snapper and languid EDGE download speeds brings you back down with to prepay earth with a bump.
Considering the similarly priced and slimmer Nokia 5310 packs a superior, video capturing 2MP snapper and higher memory card support, the W350i starts to look a tad tame. Its Walkman sonics and MP3 player looks may not be enough to persuade mobile music fans on a budget to take a gamble.


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This is the tool you use to scrub the window. It's normally in the shape of T and is made of lightweight but durable material. Washers come in different sizes, makes and the t-bars or handles and sleeves can be bought separately. The sleeves can either be general cotton, abrasive pads or microfiber. The washer is usually dipped into a bucket filled with window cleaning soap and gently scrubbed on the glass to remove dirt.
This tool is used to remove the cleaning solution and dry your windows. A squeeze consists of three separate parts: a handle, rubber blade and metal channel. The rubber part is the most important and needs to be kept in perfect condition with no cracks or deformations for thorough work. It's important to avoid buying a cheap squeegee, or you will be disappointed with the performance.
Although a little obvious, it's good to buy a good bucket that you will be specifically using for window cleaning. You can either buy one that sits on the floor or one that hooks to your belt for convenience when cleaning high windows on a ladder. The bucket should be long enough to fit your washer.
Another important window cleaning tool that you should have is the scrapper. When you have dirt, debris or any other impurities on your window glass, a scraper comes in handy for the cleaning job. This tool comes with a sharp razor blade that is usually run along the window to remove unwanted dirt like bird droppings and mud. A scraper is good for achieving great cleaning results with no streaks left on the glass after using a squeegee.
If your windows are placed at a higher height, a quality extension pole is a must have. It's best to buy a pole that is a bit longer than you think you'll need for your window cleaning tasks. A good pole will fit on any window washer or squeegee handle that you buy. Most of them are designed to attach easily to extension poles. While it may take some practice and skill to use the pole effectively, it's always a valuable tool when working at heights.
These towels are actually not used to clean the glass but are primarily helpful when you want to wipe the edges of your windows or blot small spots that were missed by the squeegee. The best to use are the microfiber, surgical or terry cloth towels.
Although not classified as part of your window cleaning tools, your job can never be complete without a quality window cleaning solution. You can either make your own or buy a professional window cleaning soap.
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Originally printed 3/3/2011 (Issue 1909 - Between The Lines News)
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Well, he did it. President Barack Obama announced his administration will no longer defend the Defense of Marriage Act in court, essentially firing up the big Gay Bat Signal over America, letting gays know that it's finally safe to come out and wrest marriage away from the poor defenseless heterosexuals.
That DOMA is unconstitutional is really a no-brainer, but for too long the only people willing to say so were people with no power to do anything about it. Finally, there's someone in charge who isn't willing to let his justice department put on an anti-gay dog and pony show just to placate some right-wing assholes. The fact is, pro-DOMA folk already thought Obama was doing a shitty job of defending DOMA.
It's true, Obama just wasn't that into the whole thing. Probably because fighting to keep a law in place that discriminates against a specific minority in this country is kind of the antithesis of everything he campaigned on. Or maybe it's just because things are really messed up right now (Hey there, unemployment rate! Hi, rising gas prices. Afghanistan, how's it going? Hello budget deficit. Global warming, give your mom a kiss for me.) and the prez has priorities.
Thankfully, Congress also has priorities. And under the firm leadership of House Speaker John Boehner, we can rest assured that defending the unconstitutional Defense of Marriage Act is likely soon to be priority number one.
"I'm really disappointed in the President and the Department of Justice in the fact that they're not going to defend a law that Congress passed overwhelmingly. It's their responsibility to do that," Boehner told the Christian Broadcasting Network. "Now, it's happened before where administrations have decided they weren't going to go out and vigorously defend a law that Congress passed, but I really am disappointed in the President in his actions, but if the President won't lead, if the President won't defend DOMA then you'll see the House of Representatives defend our actions in passing a bill that frankly passed overwhelmingly."
I was unaware that in order for a law to be constitutional it just needed to be passed "overwhelmingly." I think that over the years the constitutionality of various laws has been decided on other criteria that's, you know, actually based on the Constitution. But those were probably activist judges.
Also, Boehner claims that Obama "won't lead," but isn't that exactly what the president is doing here? Doesn't being a leader sometimes entail making choices that run the risk of being unpopular because of one's own conviction? My guess is that's something pretty foreign to Boehner.
"It strikes me as something that's just as raw politics as anything I've seen," Boehner said. "Knowing that a lot of people who believe in DOMA are probably not likely to vote for him and, uh, pandering to the other side on this issue."
Yeah, that's got to be it. When in doubt, throw the gays a crumb so they keep votin' for ya.
Because Congress can choose to step in and defend DOMA without Obama, Boehner assures CBN viewers, "There are a lot of options on the table."
One of those options is that the House of Reps get their own attorney and defend DOMA in court themselves, an option that Rick "I have a messy Google problem" Santorum favors.
That's something Boehner has already considered. "I'd be very surprised if the House didn't decide that they were going to defend the law," he said.
As would anyone. I mean, how could we possibly expect a Republican-controlled House not to take this super juicy anti-gay bait? I mean, economy-schmonomy. Who cares about people out of work if the specter of two ladies getting hitched looms over our heads.
And who knows? Maybe DOMA is the only thing keeping our economy together. Perhaps Marriage Defending is a much larger sector of the economy than anyone realizes.
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"A woman was forced to give birth on the sidewalk because the Islamists wouldn't let her into the hospital without a veil"
Four days ago, in the markets and at the hospital, Islamists began to ask women to cover their heads entirely [Editor's Note: many women wore light veils that showed some of their hair]. In a message broadcast on the radio on Thursday, they also announced that women were no longer allowed outside after 11 p.m. Since then, the Islamist fighters that patrol the streets have been monitoring the women, and they hit women who don't obey this new rule with their sticks.
Until now, many women in Timbuktu wore light veils that covered part of their hair. But the cloth, often white, was quite transparent. The Islamists have decided women should wear a much larger veil that covers their ears, and that it has to be black. They also banned tight clothes that many of the young women wear. Now, they're all wearing large flowing dresses or "toungous", which is a 12 metre long piece of cloth that is traditionally worn in the Sahel desert, on top of regular clothes.
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News from Ply Gem this week that it's consolidating some of its operations serves as a reminder that the road to recovery for this industry is going to be long. While there have been, to use President Barack Obama's words, "glimmers of hope," there are still segments of our business that remain weak. Some companies have reported gains already this year, but others no doubt continue to see challenging conditions in their markets.
Two weeks ago, I asked whether you thought your company had hit bottom. The results were fairly positive—given recent history—but inconclusive. So for our poll question this week, I thought I'd ask a fairly straightforward question about expectations for 2009. Will your company see sales gains over 2008?
Let's see if the "glimmers of hope" are just glimmers or whether there's real optimisim in the market. And let me know your reasons too. Send me an email and let me know why you think your company—or the industry as a whole—will be better or worse off this coming year.


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Precious Metals Australia shares more than doubled on Friday after Xstrata Alloys settled a contentious 18-month legal fight with the vanadium miner.
Xstrata agreed to pay PMA a $10 million settlement over the shuttered Windimurra mine in Western Australia and to make a separate $7.5 million payment for environmental rehabilitation costs.
"This agreement represents Xstrata's final exit from the Windimurra project and transfers all liabilities and any potential opportunity to exploit the resource to PMA," Xstrata Alloys chief executive Peet Nienaber said.
Xstrata of Switzerland suspended its Windimurra operations in 2003 and permanently closed the site in May last year after concluding it was "not economically viable".
It had bought the site from PMA in return for a royalty agreement, but made only two royalty payments before shuttering the mine and removing infrastructure. This led PMA to take legal action.
It became a hot political issue in Western Australia after Xstrata was accused of closing the mine to benefit its larger South African operations and push up world vanadium prices. Vanadium, which is used in steel alloys, was at a historical low when the mine was closed, but has since quadrupled due to a supply shortage and Chinese demand.
PMA had solely focused on the legal case for the past 18 months, but chief executive Roderick Smith said it would now look into resurrecting the mine, which once employed 100 people.
"We're absolutely gang-busters thrilled at the opportunity to refresh the feasibility study and reopen the mine there," he said.
The dispute was settled after Xstrata contacted PMA last week and asked Mr Smith to meet their representatives in Zurich.
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