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|YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a [details]
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By Tony B
From: Around Boulder, CO
Mar 12, 2002
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
|My partner and I jokingly referred to this route as "Lost Off Route" due to the number of people who end up in said condition... including us. Study the route carefully or you'll end up on another.
By Peter Spindloe
From: North Vancouver, BC
Mar 12, 2002
I've been off route on this twice. The route as described above is how Tony and I did it, but we agreed after looking at the topo that we had mixed-and-matched various pithes. Doing it a second time, I also got off-route, but did different 3rd, 4th and 5th pitches -- a local claimed that the last two we did were correct....
It seems that the problem is where you go after the first pitch. It is obvious to go climbers right ten feet from the top of the first pitch, and up the fun corner as described. Apparently that's not right. According to the local, you go a little left, and up from the first belay.
In particular, the third pitch as described is definitely listed as a different climb, and pretty scary when the crack runs out. On my second attempt, my partner led a third pitch due left to avoid the scary pitch above us. This traverse, while well protected, was very insecure, but put us back on route.
Can anyone else shed some light on this route, or would not getting lost miss the point?
By Darin Lang
Mar 12, 2002
|Add one more name to the list of off route climbers. We started out correctly, yet somehow ended up finishing on the last three pitches of Southeast Face (5.8). The latter is fun if you like moderate runouts on licheny slabs and a bit of loose rock here and there. The summit of Sheep's Nose is definitely worth the effort, regardless of the route taken.
By Darin Lang
Mar 12, 2002
Re: descent options
Assuming that the "left" in the description is referring to climber's left, this is the correct descent. I thought the downclimb looked a little hairy in spots - perhaps I got off-route. Fortunately for the weaker of spirit, there are a couple of nice big bolts in a notch just when things start getting steep. Rap straight down the S/SW face from here to a huge grassy ledge (single 60m). Hop down to a giant boulder with two more bolts, and make a double rope rap to the tree gully.
By Leo Paik
From: Westminster, Colorado
Mar 12, 2002
|Hey, if you ever wind up here without your rock shoes, don't fret. You can follow this in tennies and you don't have to be named Chris.
By Shane Zentner
From: Colorado
Mar 20, 2002
|I too had trouble finding the route when I first tried this. The second time was easier, thanks to the obvious chalk marks after the first belay. I distinctly remember climbing through a short/small dihedral at the end of the second pitch (somewhat long pitch). The third pitch was 5.4, the final pitch followed a 5.7 hand crack. Let me backtrack a bit...it took me three times to figure out this route, not two! Indeed, this is a good route with great views from the summit. Glad to see that I am not the only person to get lost here.
By Bryson Slothower
Mar 27, 2002
|Don't worry too much about the exact line you follow, finding the fun variations and wandering around a bit is what makes this such a great route.
By Chris R
Apr 26, 2002
|I've done this route a number of times and not gotten lost--maybe I can shed a little light on the issue.... I've never tried to traverse right above P1--generally we have set the P1 belay above the 5.7 corner standing in a bathtub, about halfway up the slabby section. From there, the leader can attack the vertical wall straight-on. As I recall, I moved up and slightly right above the P1 belay, then found a left-facing flake (Stewart Green admonished in his guide to watch out for a loose flake above P1--I don't think this is it. I felt it was secure enough to throw some pro into......). The sequence felt 5.8ish to me. Anyhow, you can pull up that flake and over the headwall lip to the incipient, slabby crack that moves atop the headwall up and left. There is one airy move as you swing out over the headwall, out of the slabby crack, to start moving up blocks to the 5.9 corner. Good pro goes into the bottom of that corner for the tougher crux move above. Hope this helps.
By shad O'Neel
Aug 6, 2003
Didn't get lost somehow. After the first pitch look for a short finger sized splitter. Boulder up on top of the semi-loosish blob below it and traverse right. Pull back left not much further along and then you will soon find the shallow corner. The crux seemed to be the water groove just below the ledge as described in Green's book. The topo in hubbels book looks nothing like the route, surprise!
From the top, keep walking across the summit, and you will see a cairn on your left, pointing to a 2 bolt anchor that allows two quick 30m raps (1 60m rope - 50m will leave you downclimbing). The second rap anchor is on a totally-detached, huge boulder that must weigh more than I do.
By Bo Johnston
May 22, 2004
|I got lost right from the start because I used two guide books. Green's book is only textual with a photo and the topo I had was from Hubbel which has a route called Lost in Space Direct, which I now realize is not quite the same at all. We got lost after it's first, extremely difficult first pitch of 5.9 which felt more like 5.10b. After seeing the picture on the website here I realize that Hubbel calls this route the "Old Man Route", I think. If anyone can add a comment on what happened to us, please. We somehow made it to the summit and that felt worthwhile in and of itself. Send to last pitch went through a 5.8ish three piton bulge that was quite fun over towards the right side of the massif. Anyone know what route that may have been. Two of the pins had steel D rings on them???
By Darin Lang
May 23, 2004
|Bo - see the description for Southeast Face.
By pete cogan
Jul 27, 2004
Did this today and did Not get lost in space, mainly because of all the helpful info above. Thanks.
A thought on P1: we went out about 150 feet, and set up an anchor that is at the same level as the big tree which will be 20 feet or so on your left. This puts you right below the crack that can start the second pitch.
Another descent option: head NW from the top, then cut hard E above a very large tree. Then you can head down a gully to the ground.
By Chris Mack
Sep 6, 2005
Ok, Ok, Ok.
Tried this route this past Sunday (9-4-05). The first pitch/start was easy enough to find, we think. The pictures of the first pitch on this site and the Trout book's topo do match up with what we climbed. The Hubble books topo [didn't] even look remotely close so we [didn't] follow that guide.
We climbed a slabby/broken ramp to start, gained a face with a funky move right into an easy slabby handcrack. This handcrack led to what I have read/heard described as anything from a .5 corner to a .8 corner. We both had to pull a move which was tough, it felt .9+ish at least.
Now, my real question is where in the jack do you go from here?! The leader built a belay in some left leaning cracks on a slabby stance just after the corner. It was not clear to me AT ALL where the hell I should be going at this point. There was a slabby corner system (sorta) that continued up from the belay for about 50 feet or so. There was also what looked like a way directly up over the face that the leader [built] a belay at.
I climbed what felt like some .9 face up directly over my belayers head for 15-20 feet and then traversed right (as I thought I was supposed to) on slabby mini-mini-bathtub type rock. It now looked as if I had 3 options. I could enter a slabby left facing dihedral, which formed the left side of a triangular roof, climb about 20-25 feet to a roof and try to exit the dihedral somehow (which [didn't] really look possible). Secondly, I could climb a tough-ish looking face for 15 feet unprotected (risking a serious ankle breaker) just to the right of the dihedral in an attempt to bypass it. Finally, I could continue to traverse right under the triangular roof past some SERIOUSLY loose human-crusher boulders that were perched on a ledge above a rap sling, and use this approach to gain a broken crack system that seemed to pass the roof on its right and allow you to access the face 20-25 feet above.
After looking at the Trout Book's topo, it would seem as though you are supposed to take the 3rd option that I mentioned, but I was not about to attempt that traverse knowing that I had 100 more feet of vertical left to the pitch and the drag both for me and belaying the second would have been psycho, and I am very used to dealing with drag. Regardless, as I was trying to figure out what to do with myself the weather hit us hard so I donated a nut to the rock gods and we accepted defeat. Unfortunately, the comments listed here and the info in Stu's book really [don't] help me. What I find most confusing, is the "steep fingercrack" I am supposed to find immediately after the first belay. There was no "steep crack" anywhere that I could see, unless this confusingly refers to the face I climbed above my belayer which I guess I [don't] consider a "crack."
Was I in the right spot to begin with? Was our first belay set to early? It is really eating me up about this route and if someone out there can help me in any way, that would most certainly be bitchin'.
(I know I'm long winded, [can't] help it)
By Anonymous Coward
Sep 6, 2005
Chris -
The way that the route is described on this site and the way that it is usually done are different. The line is the same, but the belays are in different spots. That said, here is the way that it is usually done:
It sounds like you got the first pitch right, although the corner is only 5.7 or.8. If you belayed right after the corner where it gets slabby - that's the place - you can sit your butt in a nice depression . You can put in small stuff all the way up to a 3 or 3.5 Camalot for the anchor.
From there, you traverse right about 5 feet and go 15 feet or so directly up a steep wall with decent pro to a small stance. The finger crack is hidden, but it's there. From here, the line goes pretty much straight up the edge/arete with a nice drop-off on your left. Follow this to to a thin left facing corner which is the crux, and belay above.
The next part goes up a broken corner to a vertical wall that is covered in bird crap but is only about 5.4. Belay here. After this corner, you have two options - continue straight up in a 5.7 or so hand crack or go slightly left and finish with Ozone Direct which is a slabby thin crack problem protected by an old buttonhead that goes up to a roof and passes it on the left.
Also- on the West side of the rock there are two sets of bolts just in case you do not feel like walking off.
By Chris Mack
Sep 6, 2005
Just so I understand you, the "crack" in question is right in front of my face and this is the part I climbed up right off the belay? If this is true, then the crack only lasts for 15-20 feet tops. Correct?
Also... I was to stay as left as possible after I gained the stance above the crack and climb along the rounded edge passing a roof on my right? Then I will hit the crack?
I looked at a picture I took of the southeast face on the approach, and I think I can now see where I was supposed to be.
By Anonymous Coward
Sep 6, 2005
Chris - Your question is a little confusing since you don't say which pitch you are talking about.
Anyway, take a look at the first two photo's with the route description. The first one was taken from the depression that I described as the belay for the first pitch, looking down at the second, who just came up the vertical corner that I called 5.8. The second picture is taken from the same spot, but instead of looking down, it is looking up and to the climbers right. You can see the crack in this photo, and the climber is on the arete. If you continue up the arete, you will eventually wind up being deposited in the crux dihedral, which is pretty short - like 10 feet or so.
From there, pick whichever way you want to go - 5.7 or 5.10....
By Chris Mack
Sep 7, 2005
Thanks for the info. To clarify, I am referring to the second pitch. This is where I was the most confused. As I said, we didnt even make it to the 3rd pitch because we ran out of time.
As I look at the second picture, I think I understand where I was supposed to go. The other features up there just suck you in I guess. If you look at the fourth picture below, you can see the shadow of a medium roof and dihedral at second pitch height above the large corner of the first pitch. Am I correct in saying that I should be to the LEFT of this system while on pitch 2?
By Monty
From: Golden, CO
Apr 5, 2006
The route goes as so.
Pitch 1 ascends a right traversing hand and finger crack to a easy 5.5 corner, exit left and belay at the base of the obvious flake.
Pitch 2 ascends the finger crack in the flake for 15 feet to an awkward mantle. From here start aiming left around the roof for roughly 20 feet using great flakes for hands and gear. Step left around some slab to a low angle hand crack. When this crack dies there is an open book of slab to the left, crank the crux move and run it to the right facing corner where you can set up a spacious belay.
Pitch 3 Ascend the right facing corner for 25 feet. On top of the corner you have 2 options either set up a belay and do the Ozone Direct .10b or continue climbing to the right up easy cracks and slabs to the summit.
This is a great route so enjoy the Granite.
By Stubby-Ian Howells
From: Denver, CO
Mar 16, 2007
rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
Definitely a fun route with pitch 2 being nice and airy with a pretty intense crux, but the gear is good. If you follow the pictures and route description from Stewart Green's "Rock Climbing Colorado" you should be right on.
Cheers and enjoy the fun hand jams and exposure on pitch 2.
By Lordsokol
From: Boulder, CO
May 15, 2007
|P.W. and I climbed the route this weekend. A party was just starting when we arrived, so we warmed up on the Southeast Face. After running up that (just under an hour and a half) we had time to sneak in an attempt before the afternoon thunderstorms moved in. The first pitch of Lost in Space felt like easy 5.9. The little tree sticking out of the crack on the first pitch mentioned in Green's book was burned in the fire, so it is now just a stump... but it's still there. The second pitch was airy, but still went around 5.9. The key was moving right about 5 feet just above the first pitch. A thin finger crack unfolds on the second pitch along the corner at the left, along with a big drop off to the left. Great exposure! The last pitch was easy and a fun cruise to the top. Lead left up easy 5.4 to a little ledgy overhanging corner. Still at 5.4 or so. From atop the corner move right and mostly up along the 5.7 crack. These last sections can be done in one pitch. Stewart Green's guide was pretty accurate, and staying on-route wasn't too tough. The most helpful route-finding tidbit for me was the picture in Green's book that showed a little jog in the line to the right above the first pitch. The granite is fantastic and I will definitely be back to climb this area again.
By Jason Kaplan
From: Glenwood ,Co
Mar 8, 2008
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Did this route today, lead pitch 1.
Pretty easy for the most part but a little awkward, the upper dihedral is definitely harder then 5.7 IMO, the 3 other ppl climbing it today also almost slipped off through that section at one point in time (we had 2, 2 man teams). Up above, I headed left for a nice belay spot. From there, we (not my lead) headed almost straight up toward a crack that looks nice up higher passing a fixed nut on the way (the other team went right above the dihedral and set up a belay around the corner, but they were envious when they saw where I stopped). But the base of the crack was total mank and non-existent. Another nut was placed and then we fired out an airy traverse 5.8 or so on good chicken heads to the right (on a ledge system). We found the small crack, topping it out seemed to be the crux (delicate movement liebacking a flare/ sloppey edge of the tiny crack feet high with smears). The third pitch is really obvious, and after being humbled on Ozone Direct I promptly sent the main line clean.
By James R. Arnold
May 5, 2008
Climbed this yesterday with Joe Chorny - it is a great route.
We both thought P1 was harder than 7 and more like 8 or so. Near the top of the P1 dihedral (after the easy 5.5 section) is a harder move that is best done by moving onto the face.
We had no trouble finding pitch 2 based on everyone's good beta (especially Monty's). I did indeed traverse around the arete to the right because it looked a little easier than going straight up the finger crack that is above the flake. The flake above the belay is solid and didn't even flex with a 200 lb guy yarding or standing on it. Once around the arete continue up near the left edge on flakes. Be mindful to not place gear too quickly on the other side of the arete to not create rope drag. There is a fixed stopper on P1 and P2 that could possibly get retrievable. When the left-leaning crack ends, look up and right to the low angle handcrack Monty describes. At the top of that, I traversed left about 6 ft to the base of an easy, right-facing crack. Take that up until you are at the base of the thin 9 corner. The corner is only about 10 ft long. It helps to be tall leading this pitch as you can stand on the big jug on the right edge to place gear up and left before committing to the crux move. Joe couldn't use the jug for a foothold and with just the face the moves looked quite difficult. I set the belay just above the corner at a nice ledge. The ground at the bottom of the large corner on P3 is sloping so I didn't think this would be as good a belay spot.
P3 is easy 5.4-5.6 chimney/wide crack for 80 ft or so. There decide to do the regular finish or Ozone Direct (which we did and was great!)
As described under the Ozone Direct route, the crux move is a mantle, so it is definitely easier if you are shorter.
From the top of the route, go to the summit and traverse down and look for the raps. Two single rope raps with Metolius rap hangers gets one down.
By Sara Weimar
From: Del Rio, TX
Jul 6, 2008
|Does anyone know if anyone has climbed straight up the slabs above the small roof above that last piton on the last pitch (above the 5.7 crack)? My partner Ryan said he has never seen Lost in Space finished that way, as everyone goes to the right at the piton and then up. I pulled over the roof and then ran it out with only two placements in some small horizontal pockets/cracks. The line is a direct continuation of the last 5.7 crack and the roof is cool, but the upper slab is very runout.
By Jake Wyatt
From: Longmont, CO
Jul 27, 2008
My partner Annette and I climbed this yesterday and finished similar to what you describe. After pulling up through the little roof, though, I wasn't entirely sure where to go, so I went sharply left for 10' or so, and got to a little left facing corner/flake. I climbed up this, then went back right to get to the base of the slab you're talking about. I flipped the rope around the corner/flake so that it ran directly up from the little roof to the slab, and Annette could follow the rope directly up.
The slab was runout like a Flatirons east face, but was a fun way to finish.
By Meredith DB
From: Boulder, CO
Jun 5, 2009
Hmmm. I'm a bit confused about the discussion here. We followed almost exactly the route description given here, which (in my opinion) matches the topo for Lost in Space Direct in Hubbel's book almost exactly. Well, Hubbel's topos are a bit hard to read, but the major features do match.
We did the ascending part of the route in 3 pitches with a 60-m rope. The first belay was above the 5.7 corner, as described here, at the height of the walk-off ledge, just up and right from a small tree. For the second pitch, you can string together the traverse right from the belay, the exposed crack, the thin crack and crux face move left, and then belay about 20 feet above the crux at the base of the huge 5.4 corner. The third pitch is then the 5.4 corner, the step right into the 5.7 crack, and up to the top.
It may be useful for people to know that the long traverse at the top, left to the rap anchors, is easy but fairly exposed - it may be worth staying roped up for this section.
Also, the most important thing: this is a really fantastic route! The rock quality is excellent, the gear is good, and the climbing is super fun. It's a lot of face climbing than I was expecting - the majority of the climb feels like face climbing with good cracks for gear.
By Rob Davies UK
From: Cheshire, UK
Oct 27, 2009
rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c
|Very nice. Trickiest route-finding was getting correct level for traverse right at start of pitch 2: apart from that it's simply a matter of following the most obvious line all the way up. Tree stump on P1 is not visible from the ground. It's easy enough to take a belay before the tricky move at the end of P2 is you've run out of right size gear. 5.9- seems fair, though actually easier than some 5.8s at Turkey Perch! UK grade HVS 4c, 5a, -, 4a (.8, .9-, .4, .6). Not being sure where the easiest descent was, we ended up abseiling from a tree at the back of the crag then trudging back round.
By Jake Carroll
From: The Springs
Dec 20, 2009
|Sara and Jake, I think what you are looking at is Ozone Direct. It is a 5.10b variation to the last pitch. You can check out the description to the variation on this site.
By Peter Swank
From: Boulder, CO
Dec 4, 2010
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
|Climbed in late November on an incredibly windy day. Route finding was no problem. Took a look at the route from Stewart's guidebook at the base and then linked it all up. Pitch two and four were the best. Set of stoppers with C3s and C4s up to three worked well.
By mountainmicah83
From: Colorado Springs
Dec 6, 2010
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
As of 12/5/2010, the road was still try to Sheep's Nose. Different story to Turkey Rocks. We decided for Lost in Space after not being able to do Turkey Rocks with no prior beta and just an old South Platte book from 1988. Seems we had the same route finding issues everyone does. Started with the runout slab at the bottom. Then ended up doing the variation to the left of the tree and up having to do a crazy, unprotected traverse back right and then back left. Connected pitch 3 and 4 with one long pitch and walked off to the summit. Can 3rd class down to a large tree on the NW side and a 60 m rope will get you down from there. It should have webbing on it but we used our own as we never trust old webbing.
Here is a photo of our route. Please feel free to tell us what we actually did. The circles are belays. At the second circle, I know you can take the crack to the left and there were actual piton anchors over there. We tried straight up and finding out the hard way that it was runout face climbing and then did a crazy traverse to a cool little crack system that got us to the belay before the 5.4 section and back on route.
By Phil Lauffen
From: The Bubble
Dec 6, 2010
I have tried to do this climb 3 times now and I'm pretty sure I got it right the last time. The problem is you didn't start in the right spot, but you actually did end up on the correct route for the last half.
Look at my picture for my interpretation of the correct route.
By Tombo
From: Boulder
Mar 26, 2011
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
|Phil's photo is basically the line we took today. The only confusion I found was the description above lists the 1st pitch as 80 feet and the second as 130 feet. We climbed the ramp and belayed just below the 5.8 hand finger crack that you traverse out of and it was about 130 to 140'. The second pitch was more like 80 feet and the third around 100. We combined the second and through the crux of the third to a belay on the large ledge below the square inset seen at the top of the face. Then we had a short pitch up to the base of the fourth pitch.
By Phil Berggren
Mar 14, 2012
Did the 1st pitch yesterday before getting blown off (convenient excuse). Have climbed this route quite a bit over the years, and would agree with moving right after P1 at a kind of inobvious spot, above the corner just climbed. It's possible with a 60m to belay from a good ledge 20' above the tree on the ledge, which would be above the right traverse to P2 and below a couple of 5.9 roof cracks. The blue line in the photo above is correct.
Be sure to put a long runner on the lower pro (stepping around the corner at the bottom into the 0.5 crack). We usually have done P2 ending at the chimney on the right, or where you can go left then up the thin crack, then traverse left to a dihedral. The crux for me on P2 is the last move out of the little corner and onto the slab/ledge belay...green Alien is what you want.
Have always hiked off towards the back and sketchy downclimb to the top of the gully. Have also rapped off a little tree if you continue down the back side...then hike back up to the "col" and down the descent gully. Have never seen the rap bolts
It's possible to bail to climber's left after P1. There is an exposed move to the ground, but there is a little tree for belaying or rapping. It's only a move or two but exposed, although my dog managed to do it both ways yesterday. She also manages short stretches of WI3. It would be a little to the left of the lower red line in the photo.
Kind of a mess on the approach after the fire...anyone notice all the exfoliating slabs on the boulders?...hotter than heck. If it's windy, pay attention to your route up the hill...still a few standing dead trees.
By Lyont72
From: Foco, CO
May 7, 2012
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Hello all,
Sorry did not post this sooner but here is a little beta to help you stay on the route. Climbed this back on 3/10/12 and had no problems with route finding (or so I think). The trick for us was at the top of the 1st pitch and starting the 2nd lower then what you see in the beta photo which seams to be the problem for many. We followed Bryson's description to move over to the arete and on to the other side of it then going straight up. After making the crux move in the description, my partner built a belay on a nice ledge under the 5.4 corner. We climbed this 5.4 corner as its own pitch and built another belay at the top just to the left of the 5.7 hand crack that takes you to the top. Posting a series of photos showing you what my partner did at the start of the 2nd pitch. Hope this helps . . . .
Happy sending
By Peter Lewis
From: Bridgton, Maine
Jul 23, 2012
|Blew off work for a day and did this route back in the early 90s. Really fun--and we didn't get off route (which makes us the weird ones, it seems). Too bad about the fire. Love the gear list.
By Patrick Betts
Oct 16, 2012
Climbed this last week, and it's quite stellar. Was not nearly as involved and comitting as this page makes it come off as.
After pitch 1 (belay in a large waterstreak with good belay seats right next to a left-facing dihedral), just climb up 8 feet or so above the belay and make a right traverse under a rooflette, pop around the arete, and boogie up and left along the arete. I thought this was straightforward and that the route finding was neither complicated or hard.
I ended up linking pitch 2 with half of pitch 3. Belayed right after the Lost In Space crux and right below the 5.4 corner. This made my pitch 2 long, sustained and quite classic, in my opinion. Couldn't imagine stopping before the route's crux and then starting a new pitch just to climb an 8 foot crux and a 5.4 corner.
Either way, this is an awesome route with lots of vertical feet, exposure and fun moves!
By mike h
From: Denver, CO
Oct 7, 2013
Great route, great rock.
Route finding was easier than I expected from the discussion here. I think two things are important: 1. know where to start from the multiple p1 pictures here, 2. know where to traverse right at the start of p2 from the pictures here, followed by exposed moves back left along/above the arete/roof.
Otherwise, the routefinding was obvious, and multiple belay/pitch options exist. I'd agree that it's best to take p2 all the way past the 5.9 crux to the base of the large 5.4 corner, then do a long third pitch to the top. Nice summit.
By Pink Thunder
From: Lakewood
Oct 10, 2013
Stellar route. Did it on Sunday with a pal and wound up leaving a nut at the 5.9 crux. So the next party on will have a nice surprise.
We didn't have any problem route finding; after the first pitch, look to the right, and follow the lack of lichen onto the ridge and up. Just be wary of a big bulging rock that's loose as you move off the belay ledge. The thing feels like it's about to pop at any moment.
By Jordan Hirro
From: Colorado Springs/Carbondale
Jan 22, 2014
|Just did this today for a nice afternoon climb. Didn't really get lost but did have a stellar time. We made it in 3 pitches easily. Don't bring bigger than a 2, I doubt you'll use it, have fun!
By Dom R
From: Estes Park, Colorado
Jun 14, 2015
I think the reason everyone is getting lost on this is because the description on here is pretty vague and not entirely correct, though we all write our own stories out there. Anyways, did this yesterday with not one issue following the Haas guidebook.
P1. Locate the obvious hanging dihedral in the middle of the cliff, about 50 ft. up. Climb the slabby open book/crack in a corner to this and into the corner. Climb the corner, and make a hard move to exit. Belay on the left side of the headwall below a small, chalked fingercrack.
P2. Climb to the fingercrack, do a brilliant and unlikely traverse. Follow cracks in the arête up and left around the roof. Keep climbing till you hit the small crux corner. Make the move and belay below the huge chimney ahead.
P3. Climb the chimney, move right, and cruise the pleasant corner to a nice belay.
P4. Take the easiest path to the summit. These pitches are all 150' or longer, and the crux second is almost 180'. That's the joy of this climb, so don't think you've passed the belay because you probably have not. Now, all that being said, this is for sure a fun classic and shouldn't be missed. Almost 700' of climbing in only 4 pitches? It's pretty great, and I went on a sunny Saturday afternoon and didn't see another soul.
By Taketaketaketaketake ....take
From: Colorado Springs
Sep 23, 2016
Yeah, this page's route description isn't the greatest. The Haas book has good pitch descriptions, and I think Dom's comment was pretty much right on the money. If you do it his way, there isn't much actual climbing on the fourth 'pitch' -- we just scrambled to the summit.
I used a #3 and #4 for building belays at the top of the first and second pitches but probably could've gotten by without them.
This thing is greasy when it's warm, which might not make it a good warm day lead if you're at your grade -- the one crux move felt pretty hard. There were also two cams and a nut stuck on the route this past weekend, and we failed to booty any of them. Maybe one day.... We also dropped a #0.5 Black Diamond on the third pitch which is probably still lying around the base of the climb somewhere, we couldn't find it on the way out.
By Alex Hesler
Mar 5, 2017
|Pitch 2 starts to the right of the belayer, up the short 5.8 crack to some face holds that get you standing on the arete above and to the right. There is no reason to even touch the giant loose boulder/"flake" that's directly above the belayer. It's all there, and you'll be chillin' with a smile as soon as you gaze up from the arete once you've established. Just start to the right in the handcrack from the belay, watch your technique and trust your holds. Instantly one of my favorite climbs!


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Wonderful cruise - again
Destination: Transatlantic
Embarkation: Southampton
Embarkation: This was the smoothest embarkation I've ever had. We didn't try to get to the port too early and arrived about 1pm. Just a handful of people there at that time, Walked right on the ship, rooms were ready so we went straight to our stateroom and dropped off our carry on bags and headed for lunch.
Activities: There was so much to do on this cruise that several days there were multiple things happening at the same time and I had to choose one over the other. Usually I try to do the trivia - didn't even get to one the entire 13 days and didn't miss it. I like to knit and there was a small group of knitters who found each other about half way through the cruise and we set up a time and place to meet. Was typical of what More happens with knitters - we all got to know a bit about each other and it was great to see each other in other venues - at meals, at shows, at the bar etc. It made it seem as if you were sailing with friends.
Hot Glass Show: If you have never seen this you are missing one of the best things about the three ships that have the Corning Museum of Glass Hot Glass Show. These artists are amazing and to blow glass in the conditions encountered on a TA is really a challenge that they made look easy. Their shows are always packed and it is due not only to the unique nature of the show, but the personalities of the artists. This was not to be missed.
Bars/Cafes: We found one bar that was fantastic, great bartenders and a group of guests who kind of became regulars. It was like your "local" and quite fun. Cafe Bacci was very good. All of the coffees were well prepared and the iced tea was incredible.
Oceanview/Moonlight Sonata: The Oceanview Cafe was the same as it was on Solstice - your usual buffet. We had a large number of guests who were from the UK (over 1600) compared to from the US (a little over 600), so I noticed that there were several items that are typical of an English Cooked Breakfast. I don't recall that from my first TA the opposite direction, but perhaps I just wasn't paying attention. All the food was well cooked, lots of choices and I had no complaints. We had early seating in Moonlight Sonata and that worked well with nice tablemates, but next time we are doing select dining because we would have enjoyed meeting many new people at dinner and some days 6pm seemed too early to eat. Our waiter and assistant waiter were great, very accommodating to our requests. The wine steward was okay - not great.
Cabin: Our last TA we spend next to no time in our balcony cabin so this trip we chose an inside cabin to get a lower rate. In retrospect, we would have preferred at least an outside cabin if not a balcony. It was just strange to wake up and have no clue whether it was day or night unless you looked at your watch or the view from the bridge on the tv. The size of the cabin was fine. It was always kept very clean, bathroom was a typical size, as was the closet. We were mid ship and it was very quiet and we didn't roll too much when the weather was a bit rough.
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Theater Shows: All of the shows we went to were excellent. There were three production numbers and they were all well staged and enjoyable to watch: Edge, Eclipse and Ovations. Eclipse was similar to Cirque de Soliel. The musicians/jugglers/comedians/singers were all very entertaining.
Immigration: Sorry, have to say a few words about immigration in St. Thomas. Because that was technically the first stop in US territory, the entire ship, including the crew, had to go through immigration. There were some issues with the people from immigration - arriving later than expected, not having the right computer technology to call up all the electronic files for the Brits who had completed them online prior to sailing. We were fortunate to have gotten in line a bit earlier than our assigned time and we got through pretty fast and made our excursion. Others, especially the Brits were not so fortunate. The lines were not well managed and there were many who missed their excursions and were not happy at all. Some people talked about being in line for 3 or more hours. The line management issue and how to deal with people who had booked excursions vs those who had not was the responsibility of Celebrity and they didn't manage it well. It was hard to understand as I'm sure this isn't the first time they have had to go through immigration at a Caribbean port where there are excursions involved. They tried to place all the blame on immigration but Celebrity surely had their share as well.
Disembarkation: Here was another fail. I'm sure things worked fine for those who had later times, had their luggage handled by the crew the night before etc. We had chosen self disembarkation as we needed to rent a car and try to be home by noon. That meant we had to handle our own luggage - which we had been doing the entire time prior to boarding the ship - so we didn't think it would be an issue. First: They shut down four elevators to reserve them for us to use to go down one floor after the authorities cleared the ship so we could leave. If I had know I would be fighting for space on one of four elevators that were also being used by people going to an from breakfast, I would have used the forward elevators. It took me 10 minutes to get an elevator to get down to deck 3 where we were told to meet. Then there was a huge line that snaked around Grand Foyer and we waited almost 45 minutes past our assigned time to have the authorities clear the ship so we could disembark. After we made it off the ship, we walked forever to get to the terminal building and then the typical back and forth line to go through passport control. By the end of the process, I needed a shower - I was exhausted. That really isn't a good way to end a very enjoyable cruise and I won't do that again unless I only have one very light piece of luggage!!
Summary: Overall we had a great time, met some very nice people, participated in some very enjoyable activities onboard that made the 8 sea days go by quickly. The shows after dinner were great, the food was very good, the staff were helpful, cheerful and made the cruise go smoothly. We will definitely do another Celebrity cruise and most likely another TA. Less
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I was putting the top down today when it was almost shut I heard a loud metallic click click so I stopped. Pushed the button again and the clicking began once more. I then pushed the close button and nothing happened. I pushed he open button and nothing. No more clicking. I manually closed the top. Now it will unlatch, but ten stops.... Anyone have help?
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More detail please.
When you heard the clicking the first time, was the convertible top already folded into the compartment? Was the rear deck lid trying to close/lock in place?
When you tried to close the top and you say it unlatched, are you saying the rear deck lid/cover unlatched and then you heard the clicking noise and then the process stopped?
It sounds like the motor that locks/unlocks the rear deck lid is failing. These motors have plastic housings with metallic gears inside that skip and cause that loud clicking noise you heard. The problem is that over time the cables used to lock/unlock the read deck lid start developing more resistance (wear, age, lack of lubrication) and put more stress (torque) on the motor's metal gears. As the metal gears fight against that torque, they push up and away from each other causing the plastic housing of the motor to give, which allows the metal gear teeth to skip (click).
The motor can be easily accessed by removing the back bench seat. Uncover the flap that hides the motor by removing the ski pass insert. This is the flap that you had to uncover in order to use the Allen key to lock/unlock the rear deck lid manually or press that unlock button that releases the motor from the lock/unlocking cables of the rear deck lid. Just pull up on the front of the seat, towards the bottom where the seat material meets the carpet and the seat should pop up. Carefully pull the seat bottom forward freeing the back from the seat belts. The motor should be mounted in the center on top of the transmission/driveline tunnel.
As you can see in the picture I took of my repair, the motor is inside this black plastic housing that contains the rear deck lid cables, motor, and related sensor/wiring. The cables can be seen in this picture through the opened access door.
My fix for this skipping gear problem started by checking the motor when I activated the convertible top feature. As I worked the top and the rear deck lid locked/unlocked, I could hear the clicking noise coming from this black housing. When I heard the clicking, I applied pressure to the top of this black housing. This allowed the gears to engage properly and the convertible top feature worked flawlessly. When I relieved the pressure the gears started to click again and the top would stop working.
Since my problem was related to the gears skipping my fix involved using a scrap piece of metal and zip ties to add downward pressure onto the black housings/motor gears. Even with my quick fix I occasionally heard the gears click when I would operate the convertible top. I went back to the motor housing and cable assembly and noticed that the cables had adjustment nuts. I adjusted the tension on the cables through these nuts in order to relieve some of the excess torque on the motor. Be careful when adjusting the tension for these cables. Too little tension and the rear deck lid will not lock correctly. Too much tension and the gears of the motor will click regardless of how much downward pressure you put on the gears/motor.
I have been using this repair for almost a year now and I have not had any further issues with my rear deck lid failing to lock/unlock. I know that this fix is not a permanent one but it sure does beat having to buy a motor that cost upwards of $200-$300 at most dealerships. In the event that the motor would fail altogether I was able to purchase a replacement rear deck lid motor. The pictures below are of the motor that is within the black housing assembly. You can see that although the motor body is encased in a metal housing, the gears are encased in a black plastic housing which leads to the problem when these gears experience excessive torque due to the aging rear deck lid cables.
Hopefully your repair is as easy as mine. If all else fails you can buy a replacement motor from the dealership or source one online through one of our many sponsors. Good luck and let us know how the repair turns out!
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Yes, the clicking noise was heard when the rear lid was locking.
After I manually closed the top and manually latched it up front I tried to open it electronically. It would unlatch and open slightly, but stopped with no sound of anything functioning.
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I have the same problem and I'm having the dealership fix it because I don't have the time, expertise or interest to deal with sourcing the part, installing, etc.
They wanted $704 to do it. I beat them back and it will be done for $590 or so.
Complete rip-off, but I've beaten them up on price as much as I can.
Thought that anyone who's experiencing this now or in the future would appreciate insight into how much this may cost - at least at my local dealership (Crown BMW in Greensboro, NC).
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Paris (ESA) Sep 15, 2011
A new record low could soon be set for ice in the Arctic. The past five years have seen the lowest extent of sea ice since satellite measurements began in the 1970s.
Earth observing satellites make it possible to measure the amount of sea ice in inaccessible areas such as the Arctic. This year, the extent of Arctic sea ice is comparable to the record low set in 2007.
According to scientists at the University of Bremen in Germany, sea ice extent in early September has dropped below even that record.
Their maps are based on observations made by Japan's microwave sensor on NASA's Aqua satellite.
According to other teams, like the US National Snow and Ice Data Center, the 2007 record has not yet been reached but is very close.
International teams use various methods to measure sea ice based on different satellite observations, but the slight differences in their results are trivial.
"It seems to be clear that this is a further consequence of the man-made global warming with global consequences," said Dr Georg Heygster from the University of Bremen.
"Directly, the livelihoods of small animals, algae, fish and mammals - like polar bears and seals - are further reduced."
Scientists had been anticipating this year's potential for a new record because satellites have seen the rare occurrence of two major shipping routes in the Arctic Ocean open simultaneously in August - indicating a significant reduction in sea-ice cover.
During the last 30 years, satellites observing the Arctic have witnessed a halving of the minimum ice extent at the end of summer from around 8 million sq km in the early 1980s to 2007's historic minimum of just over 4 million sq km.
Sea ice can be measured by different types of satellite data. Radars on satellites such as ESA's Envisat can acquire high-resolution images through clouds and darkness. This is particularly useful when observing the inaccessible Arctic, which is also prone to long periods of bad weather and extended darkness.
ESA's CryoSat ice mission, launched in April 2010, is also helping our understanding of how the thickness of sea ice is changing.
Once we have several years of CryoSat measurements, it will be possible to detect precise changes.
ESA's SMOS mission is providing complementary information on sea-ice cover and the thickness of thin ice.
Observations from space greatly assist in understanding and managing climate change. Measurements over long periods provide a reliable long-term record of Earth's climate and improve our understanding of the changing planet.
ESA's Climate Change Initiative is using archived data going back three decades from Agency and Member-State satellites.
Combined with data from new missions, this information is used to produce new, verified information on a wide range of climate variables, including sea-ice extent and thickness.
The GMES Global Monitoring for Environment and Security programme is keeping an eye on Arctic ice coverage through its Polar View project.
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text: Politics 22 September 2011 That's the sound of swing voters swinging away from Obama Although he remains overwhelmingly popular inside his own party, Obama is losing the independents. Sign up for our weekly email * Print HTML Six months ago, the White House was weighing up an enviable problem: when do you get to start celebrating an economic recovery? The administration's chief economist at the time, Austan Goolsbee, had announced that the US had "turned a very serious corner". The Democratic strategist Paul Begala told me the "hard part" was to cheerlead the "nascent recovery" without appearing out of touch. I wrote a now-ludicrous story casting Barack Obama's dilemma as being when and how to declare victory. That assumption was not limited to Democrats. The Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney warned a private Republican gathering a year ago this month that Obama "will do everything he can to get the economy going back again, and most likely - at least in my view - the economy will be coming back". Romney told Republicans that they would have to make the vaguer case that Obama "has not understood the nature of America". Obama took office with what looked like enviable timing. Americans had chosen the candidate of change in bad times and, when recovery inevitably took hold, he would get the credit. That was the formula for Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. In 1995, Clinton's aides had the same debate Obama's had this winter. They convinced Clinton to declare economic victory, and he helped turn favourable economic numbers into an optimistic national mood. Numbers game Economists and politicians will debate why the US recovery flagged this spring. Critics on the right say Obama should have cut regulations and taxes, not passed a new health-care plan. Keynesians to his left say - as they have said for two years - that his "stimulus" was simply too small. That question of blame will be central to next year's presidential campaign. Reagan and Clinton were both years in to real booms when public perception caught up with economic reality. Obama's aides like to note that poll numbers for every president of modern times have dipped below 40 per cent - as Obama's did last month for the first time in Gallup's survey. But neither Reagan nor Clinton had ratings this bad this close to an election. So, Obama's supporters and foes alike have begun to contemplate something that has no place in the triumphal arc on which he seemed set when elected: Obama could well lose next time. The president's odds of re-election on the political gambling site Intrade were exactly even last weekend. And the online traders aren't the only ones gambling. The sense of weakness has begun to ripple outward. For instance, Israeli and Palestinian leaders alike are acting as if there won't be another Obama term, rebuffing the most powerful man in the world without evident regret. Obama ran for office and won it as the candidate of history and change - and that candidate never loses. For that reason, it may have taken unusually long for his lengthening odds for 2012 to sink in. The White House still projects political confidence and leading Democrats continue to stand with Obama publicly, but privately they are beginning to worry. Although he remains overwhelmingly popular inside his own party, it's the independents he's losing. An unexpectedly tight congressional election in liberal New York City is the latest bad sign: the voters, unhappy with Obama, are taking it out on his allies. One recent weekend in New Hampshire, it was easy to see the path to an Obama defeat. He won the state by 10 percentage points in 2008. Now a series of statewide polls shows him trailing Romney - who has established his residence at a local vacation home. Romney may not survive the arrival of the staunchly conservative Rick Perry in the Republican primary, but Perry's entry into the race has, paradoxically, liberated the moderate former governor of Massachusetts to follow a more centrist path. At a sparsely attended Tea Party rally at a park in Concord, New Hampshire, Romney didn't let the words "Tea Party" pass his lips, and he hasn't offered the conservative grass roots any especially juicy red meat. The next morning, Romney found his core supporters - more than 400 of them, an excellent turnout in the small-scale politics of the state - at a Manchester country club. They included people such as Susan Greeley. (Her husband is a distant cousin of the newspaper editor Horace Greeley, who said: "Go west, young man.") She voted for Obama in 2008, but will vote for Romney in 2012 if he is the Republican nominee. 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That's a powerful pitch to suburban working women like Greeley, who make up a vital bloc of swing votes and who may not warm as quickly to Perry's more sharply conservative views. It's a symptom of Obama's plight that his shot at a second term may turn on the decisions of Republican primary voters - yet another development over which he has almost no control. Ben Smith writes for politico.com › Is Cameron's UN speech more than just rhetoric? Subscribe from just £1 per issue This article first appeared in the 19 September 2011 issue of the New Statesman, Meet the next Prime Minister More Related articles "I'm very much out on my ear": what it's like becoming an ex-MP Did John McCain just save Obamacare? What's next for the Affordable Care Act Both Labour and the Tories have decided the 2017 election was a victory Subscription offer 12 issues for £12 + FREE book LEARN MORE Close This week's magazine


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"It was a great visit," Palmer said. "They really laid it out for us and showed what the university is about."
The 5-9, 205-pound running back is hoping to get an offer soon from Auburn and other colleges after putting up big numbers as a junior despite missing a large chunk of the season after suffering an ankle injury, which he said is now fully healed.
"Recruiting is starting to pick up," he said. "I am getting invited to a lot of junior days and a lot of schools are showing interest. A lot of schools are talking about offering--probably a dozen Division I schools."
So far he has one offer. That came early this month from Vanderbilt. Other recent visits have been to Georgia and Tennessee.
Asked what he is looking for in a college, Palmer said, "I am a momma's boy so I don't want to be too far from the house. Location and a feel are important to me. I have a big family with five brothers and sisters. If I get a family feel that will be a big thing."
Palmer, who said that he can run a sub 4.5 40-yard dash, is looking to put up really big numbers this fall.
"I started my junior year really well," he said. "I got invited to the Georgia junior bowl for the top players in the state. I only played in six games because I got hurt, but I still ended up with 1,100 yards rushing so that looks good to a lot of schools. I also played linebacker and played more on defense than I did on offense."


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Minga art directed and created and sent off for approval by the band, Before Tomorrow, for use as apparel design. pretty serious amount of thought behind this one and i was able to pull some techniques and symbolism that i haven't done a while; felt good. overall i love this illustration for the Before Tomorrow apparel. And i think i'm going to continue further studies with this sort of Victorian lady and steam-punk machinery look.
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Remember the last time you took your cat to the vet? Your cat was probably uncomfortable and ticked. Spyke understands your cat's pain. She had to wear (suffer) an inflatable unicorn horn for a photoshoot.
Though she looks grumpy at first, she eventually walks around like the horn doesn't bother her at all. She embraces her inner unicorn, just like she did in this Christmas card image with her owner.
Watch the video after the break.
If you can't resist torturing your kitty in this fashion, the Inflatable Unicorn Horn is available for $5.
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A group in Uganda called the "Forum for Kings and Cultural Leaders in Uganda" urged the government to pass the Anti-Homosexuality Bill yesterday. The news released reportedly said:...homosexuality breaks the laws of nature, faith, the Constitution and the laws of culture and traditionsBahati, cheered by the support said:Mr Bahati, in a phone interview yesterday, welcomed efforts of the traditional leaders, saying "because at the end of the day, homosexuality is a danger to the culture that … [Read more...]
Brief Note: DC Mayor apologizes for PFOX commendation
You had to see this coming.Parents and Friends of Ex-gays issued a press release today touting a certificate of appreciation given to Regina Griggs by the Mayor of the District of Columbia for her work as PFOX director. The certification lauded Griggs':dedication, commitment, and outstanding contributions as Executive Director of Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays.Call me a prophet. When I saw that news, I immediately figured that the Mayor's office would issue a clarification or d … [Read more...]
OneNewsNow distorts Karten sexual orientation change study
Dog bites man. OneNewsNow distorts sexual orientation research.In a great example of why I hope Janet Porter's prayer to take over the media is never realized, OneNewsNow distorts the import of Elan Karten's doctoral dissertation research reported recently in Journal of Men's Studies.Here is the OneNewsNow title:'Orientation' change efforts effective.Here is a statement from Karten and Wade (p. 86):The purpose of the study was not to replicate findings from prior research or … [Read more...]
Sexual Identity Therapy Framework resources
Peter LaBarbera today reprints Laurie Higgins critique of an article by Mark Yarhouse regarding the application of our sexual identity therapy framework (SITF). I am aware he does not mean to promote the framework but his articles have increased my emails about the framework and requests for referrals to therapists who practice in that manner. I refer them to the registry of practitioners who claim to use the SITF at the Institute for the Study of Sexual Identity. However, a quick look will c … [Read more...]
Lou Engle issues statement regarding The Call Uganda and Anti-Homosexuality Bill
The Call Uganda will proceed as planned but Lou Engle just now released a statement which addresses the controversy over the upcoming assembly in Kampala. About Uganda's Anti-Homosexuality Bill, Engle says, "...we do not see the character of Christ reflected in some key aspects of the language of the current bill." The statement also addresses issues from the California Prop 8 campaign.TheCall Uganda Press Release: When TheCall was invited to come to Uganda our intent was to join with the l … [Read more...]
The Call removes link to Uganda campaign from website; KC protest planned today?
According to The Call Uganda website, a meeting calling for national repentance is slated for May 2, 2010. However, Sunday night the reference to Uganda disappeared from The Call website (see Google cache for the previous reference). I do not know what the disappearance means. Previous references to plans for The Call Uganda were accidentally released based on incorrect information.Late last week, a coalition of gay advocacy groups expressed hopes that The Call would not come to Uganda with t … [Read more...]
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We're here for a great awakening to understand that politics are simply the ideological vessel that God has allowed to be in society today that will determine what happens in the soul of the nation. So we cannot be idle and we cannot be silent. -Cindy Jacobs, Generals International, Liberty University, April 15Cindy Jacobs, co-founder of Generals International, wants to wake you up. Her ministry sponsored a conference March 4-6 called Convergence: A Cry to Awaken a Nation wh … [Read more...]


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"Flight" TV Spot Takes Fans on 90-Second Journey: Watch Now!
Giving fans a longer look at its new film, Paramount Pictures released a 90-second TV spot for "Flight" on Thursday (October 11).
The Robert Zemeckis-directed film headlines Denzel Washington as Captain William Whitaker during his dramatic journey after a near fatal plane crash.
"Flight" also stars Kelly Reilly, Don Cheadle, John Goodman and Melissa Leo and is scheduled to hit theaters on November 2.
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Here's another rumor to go onto the MeeGo pile: reportedly Korean electronics giant Samsung has taken a strong liking to the Intel-driven mobile operating system and may plan on taking the project over from the core Intel development team.
If at all true, this could bring some much-needed resources to the MeeGo project, particularly in light of other rumors that Intel may have stopped work on tablet and smartphone iterations of MeeGo.
The story, which appeared on Netbooknews.de (English translation), apparently confirms the Sept. 2 DigiTimes story that broke the rumor Intel would "temporarily discontinue development of its MeeGo OS due to a lack of enthusiasm for the platform from handset and tablet PC vendors," instead focusing on the Android or Windows Phone platforms.
But the German story also highlighted that according to three (unnamed, of course) sources, Samsung could be moving in to take Intel's place as the primary commercial driver for MeeGo. The project is currently stewarded by the Linux Foundation, though Intel is MeeGo's biggest sponsor.
It's a lot of rumor to take in, particularly since Samsung has their own mobile platform, Bada. Bada may not seem like much, but it actually ships on more global devices than Windows Phone 7.
Since they have Bada, and it seems to be doing relatively well, it would be odd for Samsung to forgo Bada for the sake of MeeGo on its smartphone products. That's no slam on MeeGo's capabilities, mind you, just an observation on market momentum.
Here's what I think may be going on, based on some comments from GNOME and MeeGo developer Dave Neary twittered to me after I posted last week's story on Intel's rumored departure from MeeGo smartphone and tablet development.
Neary emphasized that this was less about Intel dropping MeeGo than shifting its focus. And, interestingly, nothing in the DigiTimes story contradicts this: it is only reported that development on smartphones and tablets is supposedly being dropped. That does not include other devices that run MeeGo, such as netbooks, smart TVs, and in-vehicle entertainment systems. All device types, by the way, that Samsung has a hand in creating.
I think what we may be seeing is Intel sharing MeeGo development more with Samsung. Of course, sharing was always part of the game--MeeGo is open source, after all, way more open in practice than Android. (Android's state-of-open seems to be shocking, by the way, to some certain analysts who rely on uninformed media to spread their hysteria. I was glad to see at least one writer with his eye on the truth. But I digress.)
Regarding MeeGo, what I am referring to is the development leadership of MeeGo: who drives the bus, so to speak. Bada is a smartphone platform, and currently nothing more. If Samsung wants a home-grown operating system for its other devices, then MeeGo could make a good fit. In that case, it makes sense that Intel would deemphasize the tablet and smartphone development of Intel and have Samsung share or take over project lead status and drive MeeGo development for the other device types.
What the reports out of Taiwan and Germany are seeing, then, are separate glimpses of the behind-the-scenes moves to make this transition happen. Taken as separate, out-of-context events, they seem far more dramatic than they truly are--like glimpsing shapes on a foggy Scottish lake and presuming it's the Loch Ness monster, later realizing it's just a fisherman in a boat.
Would a hand-off to Samsung be a good thing for MeeGo, presuming any of this actually happens? I believe yes. No offense to Intel, but I could never quite shake the feeling that Intel driving MeeGo was just weird. They make chips, for goodness sake--making whole devices is not their strong suit. Samsung, however, makes plenty of devices, and if they start to co-pilot or pilot MeeGo, it just feels like a better fit to me.
Definitely don't count MeeGo out yet.
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Cardboard Box presents Jeremy Lum's "Taking Sides"
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Saturday, August 3, 2013 from 7:30 PM to 10:30 PM (PDT)
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Cardboard Box Theatre Project is thrilled to present a staged reading of Jeremy Lum's "Taking Sides" directed Amelia Bethel.
On November 16, 1989, seven Jesuits and their housekeeper and her daughter were assassinated in El Salvador. Taking Sides is an original play partially based upon those events and the aftermath of the UN's investigation into who is responsible.
One-night only: Saturday, August 3rd.
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Black Box Theatre at Bellarmine College Preparatory
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Saturday, August 3, 2013 from 7:30 PM to 10:30 PM (PDT)
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