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Carnival Legend March 2012: Carnival Legend Cruise Review by KJade
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Carnival Legend March 2012
Destination: Western Caribbean
Embarkation: Tampa
Just to preface our group and the tone of this cruise, let me say that I went on this cruise with my husband, parents, grandparents, best friend and uncle. We are all from FL with the exception of my Uncle being here from CA visiting. Everyone had cruised before but it was my best friends first time.
We only had about an hour and half drive to get to the Tampa port, but we still got up and at 'em so we could get on the boat ASAP! Checking in was pretty easy and getting on the boat was smooth - it probably took us about 45 minutes to valet our cars, carry our luggage up, wait in line, check in, board boat, etc. Upon boarding, our friend asked us where our garment bag was and my husband and I looked at each other with disappointment as we never took the bag out of our closet. We had went shopping for new dress clothes and were so excited to wear them. We were More pretty bummed out but nothing was going to stop us from having fun! We quickly found our way to a good spot on the Lido deck at the front pool. Muster was pretty quick and painless as well. Sailing out of Tampa was beautiful with the sunset and the bridge.
I was pleasantly surprised at how nice of a boat the Legend was. This was only my third cruise (all Carnival) - my first was the Freedom and second was the Fascination (not comparable to Freedom!) and my husband and I were a little worried that it would be more like the Fascination but it was big and clean. The TV in our cabin was pretty thickly covered in dust which I found odd but it was promptly cleaned after my husband wrote "clean me" in the dust. Our cabin steward did an excellent job after that and he was very friendly. The rest of the family was on Deck 6 and their cabin steward was so nice as well. I think they were the nicest employees on the ship. There were a few bartenders that were very nice too, one named Silvia (I think). The seas were really rough all week but we'd heard that from many others we met in port from other ships. Many of our days (sea and port days) were overcast but the clouds (and even small amounts of rain) blew out pretty quickly. We really enjoyed the ship and found it to be very easy to navigate and laid out well.
As a whole, the food was pretty Golden Corral-like. There were plenty of things that we enjoyed, but nothing stood out other than the beloved chocolate melting cake. The lobster was of course good and the steaks as well. They had a few different steaks available between the daily meal options and the classic flat iron steak. Both were very good. The Chopsticks area of the Lido deck was also tasty the one day I tried it ... of course the burger/hot dog/grill area was always good. The last night there was a crab cake appetizer that surprised me in how good it was. I really enjoyed all the soups I tried also: beef and barley, navy bean, black bean and chicken noodle.
The only negative piece of this vacation was the staff aboard the Legend. Almost every person myself and the group encountered was awful. Most of my family prefers to sail on other cruise lines but my husband and I convinced them to let us plan one for us all on Carnival. They said it was definitely obvious the difference between the two. Everyone agree there was ZERO customer service focused staff members. Twice, we encountered staff being blatantly rude to us. We couldn't stand our waiter, he had terrible table side manner (had his notepad poking my head and hair while he took others orders, reaching in front of other people and he also couldn't see or hear very well -- he was just awful!) and spoke down to my mom at dinner one night after she asked him for A-1 sauce for my steak for the third time. A man in the photo area spoke to me in a similar manner, telling me that he'd told me three times. It's not my fault that you aren't speaking clear English for me to understand. I went to someone else to get the help I needed and the gentleman that helped me was one of the few people on board who went out of their way to take care of a guest (that we encountered). They were just very rude and most of our inquiries to staff were replied to with a "no" or an "I don't know". These people didn't want to help, plain and simple. The Lido deck lines were always closing earlier than the hours in the FunTimes. Our last day on the ship (sea day) they changed the time (DST) a day earlier without notice. We woke up for breakfast to be in the MDR at 9:30 and was told they were closed and that it was 10:30. They changed their time on Saturday at 2 AM instead of Sunday. I understand this saved a lot of confusion on the day we debarked (actual time change) but we needed notice. The Lido line was, as usual closing early again and I didn't get any breakfast. I wasn't very happy. The time change messed us up all day, and we were definitely late going to the Lido deck for lunch but it was 3:25 PM and they are supposed to be open until 3:30 but every single station was broken down, clean and without workers. As I said, I know we were cutting it too close, but for them to be done and out of there before time to close up? It's ridiculous. I was very upset visiting the deli once again. The maitre'D made little effort to accommodate us in terms of MDR seating ... we had our party split in two groups of four at two tables next to each other. We have two deaf, lip-readers and my grandfather who is hard of hearing and in a wheelchair. It felt like we couldn't really be together at dinner without someone feeling far away. More than half of our party has/does work in the hospitality industry and the behavior of the staff was just something we couldn't believe.
My husband and I had never went to any shows on our past two cruises and were told by my parents that we needed to see some and that they are a great perk to cruising. We did a comedy show one night and also the Big Easy show on the last night. The Big Easy show was FANTASTIC -- we have definitely been missing out. The performers were so incredibly talented and the show was really fun to watch and participate in. I was usually pretty tired after our late dining, sun and drinks at the pool, so I often times headed to our cabin to get comfy and read the FunTimes after dinner. We enjoyed the casino numerous times and also Satchimo's Lounge. The band and singers were so great too. The slide was a lot of fun too but oddly was closed the bulk of our last sea day where we hoped to spend some of our day. When I asked a worker about it, I got three "I don't know" replies. I just shook my head and thought, why bother! We had some fun in Medusa's Lair on our first Sea Night as well -- everyone was dressed up and having a good time dancing. The boys enjoyed the gym a few times as well.
This was also our first time doing excursions! We have went our own way in the ports we have visited as we are beach bums and mostly just like to find a quiet beach to relax and snorkel at. My parents are always doing fun excursions so we all went through tons of choices before we left and booked a few things together so we could get a mix of excursions and relax time. We booked through Carnival and weren't disappointed. I'll elaborate in the review of the day below. I figured I'd get some general information and thoughts together before breaking down the days.
Debarkation was very easy for my husband and I, but I can't say the same for many others on the ship. We opted, as usual, to do the self assist option with our bags. We got off pretty quickly as we were on Deck 1. Customs was the easiest I've experienced. We had to wait over an hour for the rest of our family to get off. I guess there was some immigration issues with a few passengers and it was holding those up who hadn't gotten off yet. Less
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A DJ was cranking old disco tunes, everything from the Bee Gees to chaka Khan.
Of all the chiefs in South Africa none were as powerful, and as much feared as chaka.
I swear it by the head of chaka, and the spirits of my fathers.
The probability of chaka coming down to attack us was a subject often discussed in our kraals, and also the best plan of defence.
He was formerly one of chaka's generals, and is, like him, renowned for slaughter.
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After returning from active duty in the Middle East, U.S. marine Andrew Jackson (Dustin Chittum) recruits two of his friends (Andrew Yousse and Andy Culp) and forms a vigilante militia to guard the border between the United States and Mexico. Their story instantly draws media attention, but whether their actions are illegal -- or merely patriotic -- remains to be seen. Writer Ryan Noble also directs this independent drama.


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Rupert Murdoch: 'Let's Have Petition To Keep Piers Morgan In U.S.'
By Noel Sheppard | January 27, 2013 5:21 PM EST
CNN's Piers Morgan got support from a surprising source Saturday.
Commenting on Twitter, News Corp CEO Rupert Murdoch said, "Let's have petition to keep Piers Morgan in U.S. We need him, as does CNN."
Let's have petition to keep Piers Morgan in U.S.We need him, as does CNN.
— Rupert Murdoch(@rupertmurdoch) January 26, 2013
Murdoch of course was responding to a recent petition logged at the White House website calling for Morgan to be deported as a result of his views concerning gun control.
That said, Murdoch and Morgan are no strangers.
In 1994, at the ripe age of 28, Morgan was named editor of News Corp's News of the World.
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Robin Williams Is Selling His Napa Vineyard for $35M (PHOTOS)
And Celebuzz has all the photos so you can have a peek inside.
The 20,000 square foot palatial estate — known as Villa Sorriso — abuts the Mayacama Mountains between Napa and Sonoma Valleys — but is only a scenic 80 minutes from San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge.
What does the inside look like?
Fit for the king of comedy, the private limestone manse boasts five suite-like bedrooms, library, first-class movie theater, game room, chef's kitchen, elevator, cellars for art and wine, bridge gallery and viewing tower overlooking the valley.
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Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - The FBI investigation that placed listening devices in the office of Philadelphia's mayor took an even more political turn Thursday with one member of Congress suggesting that the probe is politically motivated. The federal prosecutor in charge of the investigation denied that charge.
Mayor John Street, a Democrat and former career city council member, is locked in what political observers have described as a bitter battle on its best days with Sam Katz, a Republican businessman. Street has been embroiled by as-of-yet unproven allegations of widespread corruption in his administration including accusations of granting city contracts to political supporters and family members.
When news leaked to the media that an electronic listening device installed by the FBI had been discovered in Street's office, his opponents seized on the opportunity to suggest that an FBI investigation gave credence to the corruption claims.
"I would say that the evidence well prior to anything that's going on here today or yesterday reinforces my view that this is an administration engaged in cronyism, secrecy, nepotism, and sweetheart deals for their friends," Katz told The Philadelphia Inquirer Wednesday.
Street denied the allegations.
"I haven't done anything wrong," Street proclaimed, "and I don't know that anybody in my cabinet or in my staff around me has done anything wrong."
Street's supporters and political aides saw the FBI bug as proof of an entirely different set of allegations.
"The Republican Party, dating back to Watergate ... has not been averse to dirty political tricks," Frank Keel, Street's campaign spokesman told the Philadelphia Daily News . "I'll leave it at that."
Keel also told the Daily News that he believes Philadelphia has been targeted by the Republican Party leadership.
"Pennsylvania is critical to [President] Bush's re-election hopes," Keel said. "So is it inconceivable that something like this could be triggered by the Republicans, in an effort to win Philadelphia, in an effort to help George W. Bush get re-elected? I don't know. I would speculate that it's possible."
Pennsylvania Republican Sen. Arlen Specter reportedly told the newspaper that such charges are "ridiculous," but at least one member of Congress is entertaining the conspiracy theory.
"The discovery of a listening device in Mayor Street's office has created an atmosphere of confusion and suspicion," said Rep. Chaka Fattah (D-Pa.). "It's time for the air to be cleared."
Fattah believes the FBI should issue a public statement clarifying why conversations in Street's office were being monitored.
"For the bureau to remain silent when Philadelphians are deserving answers is irresponsible. It creates an air of suspicion just weeks before the election," Fattah said. "If the mayor is not the intended subject of the investigation, just say so. The FBI owes us that much."
U.S. Attorney Patrick Meehan denied the charges of political underpinnings Wednesday.
"That's been the history of my predecessors, both Democrat and Republican, and I can assure you that's the way I conduct this office as well," Meehan told reporters. "My office has a long and proud history of doing its work without regard to partisan politics."
And Richard Manieri, Meehan's spokesman, said Street has been told about the nature of the investigation that led to his office being monitored.
"We have stated very clearly to Mayor Street and his attorney the mayor's status in this matter," Manieri said. The FBI has acknowledged that it served search warrants issued as part of the same investigation that led to the bugging of Street's office, but refused to elaborate further.
Although the FBI's official policy is to remain silent about such investigations, Fattah says the bureau is inconsistent. He claims that during the 1980s when former Philadelphia Mayor Bill Green was in office and word that he was under investigation leaked to the press, the FBI publicly denied the report.
"Why that same courtesy can't be extended to Mayor Street," Fattah concluded, "is a mystery."
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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 24.0383 Monday, 5 August 2013
Date: August 3, 2013 2:24:57 PM EDT
Subject: RE: Two Sets of Controversies
Date: August 3, 2013 3:45:49 PM EDT
Subject: Stylometrics/Controversies
Date: August 4, 2013 6:56:27 PM EDT
Subject: RE: Stylometrics/Controversies
Date: August 3, 2013 2:24:57 PM EDT
Subject: RE: Two Sets of Controversies
New members seeking context: for curious parallels to the Elliot et al. attribution wager and background to a past but major attribution debate, in addition to the essay in Shakespeare Beyond Doubt, see Brian Vickers's Counterfeiting Shakespeare, particularly its epilogue, The politics of attribution, soberly written, simply said, painstakingly overstated, detailing the hot debate and even the hot humours around Donald Foster's attribution and his use of media, including SHAKSPER, to coax credibility by way of rhetoric instead of disinterested scholarship.
Date: August 3, 2013 3:45:49 PM EDT
Subject: Stylometrics/Controversies
Ward Elliott writes:
>The other week he [Joe Egert] deplored "the circularity that lies
>at the heart of early modern stylometric methodology," and which
>certainly lay at the heart of our original bet. He thought our
>still-open thousand-pound bet offer was too niggardly, shouldn't
>really count as a "victory" for us. He urged us to raise it to eighteen
>thousand and make it more enforceable, so, if he takes the bet, he
>won't get stiffed. That may be worth some thought. In the old days
>it took us just a few seconds of reflection to raise it from $25 to
>$1,000, and two years to raise it again from $1,000 to £1,000.
>Does it need more?
I don't deplore stylometric circularity; I merely acknowledge it. One may argue philosophically that all evidence is circular and that all 'facts' or at least recognitions of them are opinion-based and cannot be otherwise. In practical terms, I find stylometry, when firmly grounded, a most powerful instrument for assessing authorship. I wonder, though, whether any non-stylometric disconfirmatory evidence could by now trump in his own mind clearly confirmatory stylometric evidence. Also, I asked Dr Elliott to up the ante to 36,000 pounds, not 18,000. Portia elsewhere upped it as far as 60,000 (ducats), though even here the hazard may not be all he hath, as demanded by her 'holy father'. Again I ask: To deserve the victory he so desires to gain, should he not hazard far more? Rest assured, Ward, I'll not demand an extra pound as forfeit penalty!
Dr Elliott later claims, "the gatekeepers' actions, if not their words, said clearly they didn't believe in it enough themselves to risk money or time on it." Ward Elliott cannot have it both ways: he assesses faith by what others are willing to risk, yet exempts himself from that same test. Why not, at a minimum, match any estimated transaction costs with his own bet?
Nor does Dr Elliott address who will judge the outcome of his merry bet. Would he agree to yet another mutually acceptable 'blue ribbon panel' of three judges with authority to release locked escrow funds to whomever they crown as victor? Any split decision would render the bet null, so both parties would immediately receive back their principal from escrow.
Then again, Ward Elliott may not be willing to (1) raise his bet to 36,000 pounds for all comers and (2) agree generally to the decision rules I've briefly outlined. Would he then accede to such conditions publicly in my case alone and rest contented?
(By the way, Ward, do you believe "A Lover's Complaint" was authored by Shakespeare? Where do you stand now?)
Joe Egert
Date: August 4, 2013 6:56:27 PM EDT
Subject: RE: Stylometrics/Controversies
Dear Joe,
I don't believe our evidence is circular. I do believe it's testable. I have bet £1,000 on it, and, in ten years, no one, including you, has ever taken me up. Its purpose is to cut transaction costs, not to make money, but I am good for the £1,000. And you don't even have to be good for £1,000 to win. All you have to do, without risking a dime, is simply pretest scores of untested plays till you find one that fits our Shakespeare profile. Seems pretty generous to me. The same could be said of a hypothetical flat-earth bet, that you can't find us anybody who has actually fallen off the edge. All you would have to do to qualify is find one convincing example, and then make the bet risk-free. True, most people would consider that too much of a wild goose chase to make the effort. If I'm right in supposing the earth is not flat, and our evidence non-circular, risk-free is not cost-free. If you're right that all our evidence is circular, the cost should be very low, just enough more flips of the coin to come up heads just once. As always, you are welcome to prove me wrong, and your circular theory right, by capturing the wild goose and bringing it to the table.
That seems to me a clear, testable, horse-race kind of bet with very generous terms. Would raising the stakes to £60,000, or a billion pounds make it any clearer? No. Egan wanted a beauty contest, got it, and lost; you seem to want more of a poker game—or is it an auction, or perhaps yet another beauty contest?—where outbidding, or outbluffing the other guy can more easily change the outcome. What it would not tell us, any better than our already-generous bet, is whether our evidence is circular in fact, or the earth flat. All it would say is that one party is looking for a bidding war, with stakes high enough to produce some extra hassle, but the other party is not. If you're not willing to take us on for £1,000, why should we take you on for £60,000? I don't see how the higher stakes would make the earth an inch flatter, nor our evidence a particle less circular, than they are now. Let's stick with the horse-race and the £1,000, which is affordable, non-trivial, and, I still hope, understandable.
As for A Lover's Complaint, unlike Woodstock, it's not in a different statistical galaxy from Shakespeare's unquestioned poems, but it still has too much Shakespeare discrepancy, maybe a thousand times too much, to make it seem to us a likely Shakespeare ascription.


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The overriding reaction among progressives to the election result was relief, yes, but also a sense of vindication.
Esman insists a lawsuit is a necessary means of vindication for the victims.
Not as consequential a winner, but a happy victory and vindication nonetheless.
The other way is as a vindication of the premise that brought Winfrey to cable in the first place.
For Republicans who have staked their entire message on opposition to Obamacare, this looks like vindication.
But the New York Legislature failed to give the martyrs their vindication, and permitted them to remain in private life.
It is not the authors intention to enter into a minute vindication of this plan.
Properly understood, that doctrine is the vindication of the complete fulness of the personal life of the One God.
But the vindication of this part is not to be exhausted in a single letter.
Letters may be published against the will of the writer when published bon fide for the purpose of vindication of character.
late 15c., "act of avenging, revenge," from Latin vindicationem (nominative vindicatio) "act of claiming or avenging," from vindicare "to set free, lay claim to, assert, avenge" (related to vindicta "revenge"), probably from vim dicare "to show authority," from vim, accusative of vis "force" + root of dicere "to say" (see diction). Meaning "justification by proof, defense against censure" is attested from 1640s.


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New work law changes all the rules
PROPOSALS for the most far-reaching reform for a generation of immigration controls through the regulation of work and housing have finally been published.
PROPOSALS for the most far-reaching reform for a generation of immigration controls through the regulation of work and housing have finally been published.
After years of debate and delay, the draft Control of Housing and Work Regulations were published yesterday and should be debated by the States on 5 March. If agreed, they will come into force in April.
Not only do they require all Islanders who want to get a job or move home to produce a registration card proving their residential status, the regulations also aim to improve the rights of unqualified Islanders.
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I don't think they are far-reaching. All they are doing is calling current categories different names. A bit of a whitewash to appease the electorate.
Sporran spot on. Got it in one. This changes nothing , if anything it gives the immigrant more rights than he currently has.
Read the article in the JEP and you get most of the facts there. Nothing changes just more bloody inconvenience for the Jersey born ( or local)
Another Routier failure
I wonder if our glorious government have any plan for the flood of Romanians and Bugarians heading this way from 2014, the Uk government is already panicing.
Hundreds of thousands all with children and grannies ...
Too late they are already here, although I have met plenty of very pleasant Romanians and Bulgarians it is only a matter of time until the imported lawless minority start to effect Jersey.
BOLT GATE after 'orse has gorn'
now that everybody is leaving the sinking ship, we come up with CONTROLS ON IMIGRATION!!about 10 years late.
Jerry Gosselin
During the States sitting on 5th July 2011, Deputy Geoff Southern asked Senator Sarah Ferguson (Chairman of the Corporate Services, Migration and Population Sub-Panel which conducted scrutiny on the proposals and gave them the thumbs up) whether she would accept that "no additional powers are contained in this legislation...". She replied (extract): "Yes, we came to the conclusion that there is nothing in this law that will control people coming into the Island." During the same exchange, Senator Philip Ozouf added that tighter border controls "are simply not possible without fundamental constitutional reform, particularly with the relationship with the U.K."
So you are plain WRONG if you think this law is going to help CONTROL immigration. All it is going to do is covertly increase the powers of the State to monitor the behaviour and whereabouts of ALL of its citizens (whether local or not) through the creation of the new Population Register. It is the Big Brother aspects we should all be concentrating on, but these were completely ignored at the time of the debate.
James Wiley
Well Jerry you are spot on again, this is about knowing who is living where and who is working where for one purpose only... to make it easier to collect taxes.
Of course what it will result in is less people working... but then unemployment is their highest priority.
Exactly right Jerry. I won't submit to this, will leave Jersey if they start trying to track me. Fortunately my landlord takes cash so no worries on that score, also self employed so the States can go shove it.
That's all well and good, but the key question is how easy will the registration cards be given out, or what criteria will people need to achieve in order to receive one?
This is just a sop to the electorate to make it appear as if there taking notice of our concerns but in effect all it dose is give more rights to those just off the boat.
bit like 1943 then.....
Do you mean 1984?
Do you know something our government and parliament get it so wrong so many times but even by their standards this proposed bill defies belief.
They are now saying you MUST have a "registration card" to move "job" or "home".
What a fascist way of doing things.
Why should government tell me I cannot move jobs or my living accomodation without having the big brother state telling me I must have an identity card to do it.
The government of Jersey has totally lost the plot.
I will not be applying for this identity card I assure you.
Do a bit more research
What a ridiculous comment, you do realise that you already require consent to lease or purchase a property and you need to provide proof that you have lived here for a period of 5 years to apply for jobs for locally qualified people. The cards just make it easier to distinguish between people who have their five years or housing qualifications between those that don't. This will reduce the amount of people being illegally employed, no card no job. You already MUST recieve consent to move house and you already MUST have lived here for 5 years for most jobs, it's not fascist it's the LAW.
I voz only obeying orders, orders zat must be obeyed visout question, vere are your papers!!!!
do a bit more research will you
Jerry Gosselin
If you already HAVE to provide proof of 5 years residence to apply for local jobs, how will the new law "reduce the amount of people being illegally employed, no card no job"? You already HAVE to provide a Soc Sec card to your employer so how will adding a bit more information to the card about housing status make it less likely that someone will be illegally employed? The employer should already be insisting on proof of 5 years residence if that is what is required. If people are currently being employed without a Soc Sec card then surely they'll continue working without the new enhanced card too?
too little too late!! close all doors now
sadly ths should of been done years ago. then islanders maybe in work and not unemployed. Instead of eastern europeans
Dont you read what is said? Your statement is completely pointless.
None of what Routier has proposed will do anything to limit immigration. It's simply to track what your doing and nothing more.
Reading this grammatical car crash, I would employ a bright Polish worker over Josse every time.
about 20 years to late, but glad to hear the rights of the unqualified people will at long last be improved.
By giving the unqualified more rights it will likely lead to more of them wanting to stay permanently. Not something we need
The housing status of an individual was the way we used to control immigration and it worked. This is still how Guernsey do it and they dont have the immigration issues that we have.
The spineless Ozouf and gang abandoned all thought of controlling immigration long ago in favour of low wage employees from any country you can think of in order that business can have a cheap labour pool.
The consequence is that the indigenous people have been reduced to almost 50% of the total population.
Ahh, so the States got their way with identity cards after all then.
The irony here is rather spectacular. Business owners (and that will include States members) must have rubbed their hands with glee as immigration forced up the number of people living here. The more people here, the more customers for their goods and services that their businesses supply.
And now businesses are closing down and the population is still too high for this little bit of rock and little sign of a reduction in Social Security's bill.
Hold on, dont they know where we all work via I.T.I.S and dont we have something called a Social Security card?
This sounds like a complete waste of money and is surely just going to provide some more jobs for civil servants whilst paying lip service to the general public. Out of interest, will the person going for a job interview just be required to flash their card to their prospective employer to prove they are allowed to be employed or will the employer use the details on the card to check up on the prospective employee? Will a database be kept containing details other than whther a person is residentially qualified? Will anyone in the civil service department tasked with looking after this database be able to put their own flags on peoples data, people they dont particularly like for example? What sort of data will these people have acces to? Is the department that runs this going to be headud up by a relative of Orson Welles?
Good points no 10. If these new cards do not contain photo id, they could make it easier to circumvent the law.
I really don'see the point of any of these changes and as I have previously said, I think their purpose is to give the appearance of tightening controls while continuing to allow employers to bring in as much cheap labour as they require.
The UK debated identity cards at huge expense, and decided against them. Can we skip all further debates/reviews, scrap this idea, and concentrate on the actual issues, as opposed to more pointless form filling jobs for the States.
This idea, completely unrelated to immigration concerns, was first suggested a few years ago. It was dropped after negative response, with some people noticing the last time a card of this type was required to be carried by islanders was during the Nazi occupation.
All the States have done is pretended to go away and think of a solution to the immigration problem, then dusted off that same rejected ID card and tarted it up with some fancy talk to make it look like a newly developed immigration control.
That insult to the intelligence aside, its time to state the obvious.
At a fraction of the cost and infinitely more simple to implement and administrate is the work permit. You limit the issue of work permits to non-locals to X thousand per year, and no work permit means no job. It's cheap, simple and effective. Local residents can be identified by their Social Security cards.
The suggested ID card system will come at a huge financial cost when that doesn't need to be the case - unless the real agenda here is to force ID cards upon the populace.
Mason nee Goldsworthy
I came to the Island in the 70s as my father was seconded to the States when he left I had no qualifications and had to live in dumps. I reached my 10 years and married a Jersey man had a son on the island but because of the housing situation we had to leave. My son wasn't a year old. He has no rights in the island but his heritage and nationality is Jersey. We recently came over to bury his Grandmother. We are proud of the Jersey connection. My father sorted out the issues with the milk, new potatoes and imported semen to improve the Jersey cow stock. The states now talk about ID cards, is that not something the Germans wanted? My mother in law would turn in her grave to think the States are stooping to this. We have pride in our Jersey heritage, but the number of immigrates means true Jersey people are being force out.
Gino Risoli
Expectations can be very destructive. A company creates jobs. The job pays a weekly wage. One gets paid for work done, it makes sense. How on earth did we get the principle of paid holidays and sickness pay and maternity leave and dump the cost on the private sector instead of sharing the burden. Oh could it be politicians buying votes on money that does not belong to them.
Just been reading what a Guernsey Politician has said about these proposals. Not very often you will hear me say this but Guernsey has it right and they are getting tougher. We should adopt their system and when your times up off you go, complete with family. Not the Jersey way of hello have some money and don't forget your family ( all 20 of them), got a distant relative from your country,well bring them to and the dog as well.
And a lot of the immigrants we end up with in Jersey have done their nine months in Guernsey and because they have to leave (due to the housing laws) they come over here, then stay and bring their families etc when they realise they can!
Jersey used to have the 9 months work thing and it worked, now we have a huge problem with just too many immigrants on our tiny rock, and quality of life for us tax payers is diminishing very fast :(
Isn't it funny rights for non qualified residents.I take it this is because a lot of these eastern europeans know their rights and are making demands on the government. When i arrived here it was a case of like it or lump it, and if you don't like it theres a boat leaves every morning ! Time to put a stop to this right now, it is causing a lot of stress among locals and people are just not going to take it any more ! why should we be pushed out of work ? Take to the streets thats what i say
From an immigrant's point of view:
Eastern Europeans can't make any demands because they have no or little rights here. We need to be here at least 5 years (and it means 60 months of dutifully paying taxes and, in some cases, working below our qualifications) to get any help such as job seeker's allowance when we are unemployed. We have to pay high rents for crappy flats/bedsits etc for 10 years before we can live in a decent place. As oppose to a 19-year old Jersey bean single mother who has everything provided for (from my taxes - you welcome) and no inclination to start working. I think Jersey people have been protected for so long that it has turned against them and they are not able or willing to make some effort to complete on the "job market". I know it is not the case generally but it is not rare either.
By the way, young people in Jersey don't leave the Island because their dream job in waitressing has been taken by a Polish person, but because they don't think they will ever be able to afford a house to raise their family. Well, you can't blame the eastern Europeans for the rocketing house prices, can you.
And a final thought: Do you, the Islanders, think you have a right to buy a "retirement home" in France or Spain or wherever you like? Do you not think your children have a right to live where they choose to be? So do we.
People from the UK and Jersey who buy retirement homes are not claiming welfare handouts in other countries. They are not taking jobs from low skilled locals either, or bringing in children to create a demand for a multi million £ new school.
But you are taking afffordable housing out of the grasp of local people at your holiday destination. This then leads to the young people of that area leaving in droves as they cannot afford to buy a home to settle in, villages becoming ghost towns in off season as locals cannot afford to live there etc. How many "locals" in Jersey have stopped and thought how they might be effecting the areas in France or Spain that they have bought their bolt hole in. It seems that it is ok for "locals" in Jersey to trample over the top of other areas of Europe to get what they desire but they dont seem to like it when immigrants come here to get what they want.
John Deere
Well put Anka, having come to Jersey to drive tractors 15 years ago as no local would be seen dead working on farms (apart from the farmer) I can fully sympathise with you on the treatment of immigrants to the island. It becomes even more comical the way the States classify you as a resident for tax purposes yet you have absolutely no rights on the island you are paying towards.
@John Deere - I'm Jersey born and bred and now find myself unemployed. I am happy to work on a farm especially if it involves driving a tractor. I also have my HGV licence (not that I need it to drive a tractor I know).
Where do I apply 'cause I sure as hell haven't seen or heard of any jobs and I went to school with farmers sons!
I too worked on a farm about 15 years ago (about the time at which John Deere claims to have arrived here). It was a fantastic job and I enjoyed it immensely, particularly the tractor driving.
As a Jersey person, I no longer see these jobs available and I rather fear that, were I to apply for one, I would have to speak to the farmer personally otherwise "foreign foreman sydrome" may very well prevail.
If you don't like it then you are free to leave!
This only prooves Anka's point. You have apparently noting else sensible to say.
No, Slobberk, it rather "prooves" the point that those who come here and moan are here by choice and can leave when they wish if it is so awful.
1. I'm not finding calling me Slobberk funny.
2. Mr (or Mrs) Qwerty was apparently not able to answer in a sensible manner to the valid arguments so he/she went to the usual islander's rant "If you don't like it here..".
3. Apparently you also cannot deny that Anka is actually right so to make you feel better you've called me in an offensive manner. How sad person you must be.
But why stay if it's awful?
I tend to disagree with Slowek; if you go somewhere and it is not to your exacting taste, then you move on to somewhere else which is better for you.
It is not a "rant" to say that, it is common sense. Indeed, I believe that you will hear a lot worse in other parts of the world if you go there and moan like he does.
If you don't like somewhere, go elsewhere.
The fact that no-one respondes to a comment, whether by Anchor or Slowbom, does not mean that it is accepted or "prooved". As an example, I do not agree with either, but I don't feel inclined to dignify them with any response.
I,m sorry to say but before the Eastern europeans arrived, many people had to wait 20 then 18 then 15 and finally 10 years for residential qualifications... nothing new.
Anka you say that you have to pay hight rent ,have to work below your qualifications, etc, I don't think so, living in jersey is your choice and you don't have to endure all the hardship, the fall of the berlin hall gave you the freedom of choice , and despite all it seems that jersey is a far better place to live, and educate children than the former eastern block .
Jersey people have been protected? Are you mental?!
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C Le Verdic
There wasn't a lot wrong with the old system where all comments were published in chronological order and reply posters with any sense would quote the number of the post they were commenting on. One could always check back if really needed but most of the time we just moved on knowing that all the latest posts would be at the end of the thread and could quickly be digested.
Since the facelift, it takes far longer to check for new comments on busy threads. This is because one has to keep referring make to the summary page after reading each new post. With short threads it is often easier to skim read the entire thread for new submissions.
I can see the point of the present format but it is more time consuming.
I would like to get out more but find it harder to get my regular 'You Say' browsing out of the way quickly enough to leave me sufficient time.
Parktown Prawn
Firstly....I take offence at the term "Jersey bean" and see it as a racist remark, especially considering the term is never used in a nice way, so please cease using that term whilst you are a guest of the island.
Secondly, "your taxes" are paid from money you have earned from working in this island! If Jersey did not provide you with an opportunity to work and live here then you would have no money to be paying your taxes. Everyone who works pays taxes...not just immigrants. Understand?
Ask yourself why YOU have left YOUR homeland to come to a small island like Jersey....
You were not forced to come here and you are free to go anywhere else you please if you do not like it.
However, for the local resident who has made the island their home, it is not so easy.
Living standards have dropped significantly for everyone in this island, particularly since the huge influx of eastern europeans above all other nationalities that have arrived on these shores over the years.
Crime has risen dramatically (particularly serious crime), the level of service has dropped (mostly due to ignorance and language barriers).
Generally there is an underlying social unrest.I have never known such a social divide between local and immigrant as we have now.
I know for a fact your compatriots at "home" would not be as accepting of us foreigners if we all moved en masse to take their work.
Maybe you should actually start to show your hosts a bit more gratitude and courtesy for what you have been offered the opportunity to achieve here.......it has to be better then what was offered to you at home otherwise you'd still be there!
Firstly - I have heard Jersey people use the expression "Jersey bean" themselves and it was never meant, or taken, offensively.
If you felt offended then I apologize, that wasn't my intention.
I don't agree with your comment about crime, when reading that section in JEP one sees Polish names not more often than other nationalities.
When it comes to the level of service I disagree again but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I don't know if you noticed but in my post I was responding to the previous comments about how immigrants come to Jersey and make demands on the government.
And my main point was that immigrants have very little rights in Jersey; it's absolutely true nobody is keeping us here but saying that we are trying to abuse Jersey is in my mind unfair.
I live here because I like living here, I don't steal, I work hard and I have no intention of "abusing the system".
Would I like it if my country experienced a flood of immigrants? Probably not. But then can you blame people for grabbing a chance for a better life?
Jersey Eco Warrior
# Ragpud - Hear! Hear!
The 5 year rule! What happened to that ?
Here's a thought...
Anyone that finished their GCSEs will have learnt about the predator and prey cycles... If there is a large amount of prey (in this case "jobs") the predator (let's not say immigrants, an immigrant is just someone who used to be somewhere else - "workers") population will also increase. In other words - if there are many jobs then people will come over to fill them. A bit like the law of supply and demand as well I suppose. However, the predator species feeding on the prey will eventually run out of food and their numbers will drop allowing the prey to breed again and grow in numbers once more. If the number of jobs drops like it has then people will inevitably leave. Now who's more likely to leave - the local who grew up here or the person who has family and friends somewhere else...
This is a natural cycle, keep your occupation inspired cards and just let it go round...
Dave Mcvay
If there is a five year rule how come there a so many cars with foreign number plates , I thought there was a time limit to change to a j plate
Dave - You are correct.
If you 'intend' to or have lived in Jersey for more than 12 months, you are not allowed to drive a foreign (apologies if I offended anyone by using the 'f' word)registered vehicle in Jersey. You must re-register it immediately.
As with virtually all vehicle/driving offences it's just not policed.
Real Truthseeker
I believe it is 3 months. Either way, it is the same in most countries - the law and lack of policing. Does it really matter though? Registration is about insurance / traceability. So it is really an irrelevant issue ...
There is no period of grace, if you have moved to Jersey intending to stay you need to book your car in for an inspection straight away.
Likewise, any local resident who imports a foreign car has no period of grace to register on Jersey plates.
White number plates
Driving around on foreign plates is policed with amazing zeal if you are a Jersey person. The failure to enforce the law seems only to apply to a particular sector.
How can our government be so out of touch with this island, this is merely conforming to the European Convention on Human Rights which was domesticated by the Jersey Human Rights Bill; too little too late where that is concerned.
But what happened to immigration control to make certain that my daughters might have the opportunity of a career when there older or indeed myself before I retire.
It's about time that those who are concerned stood up as we can no longer rely upon the States of Jersey, they are politically and socially impotent.
Real Truthseeker
Jersey has no power to set it's own immigration law. The UK Immigration Act covers the UK and British Isles and unable to set our own. Look at article in Letters To Editor. Explains it well re: Immigration.
Jersey can set its own immigration law and may well do so if this continues.
Reading all above i come to the conclusion that most of the islanders are just racists!
This Island is trying to show it's Political correctness but in truth is nothing but abuse and racists.
Not only Portuguese, Polish, Romanian and Bugarians are immigrants, it's also English, Scottish, Irish...
All workers are paying taxes and social but only immigrants are willing to worki 40 or over hours a week at £6-7 per hour to pay off theis rents (most of the time over charged for very poor condition flats or rooms)and they don't get any thing else back fot that, were locclas can get all the beneficts without 5,10 whatever years restrictions!
More money earned means more tax and social paid into the system. At the same time local islanders working part-time or just enough to cover cost at £8-10per hour.
Which one of the locals will go to work as waiter or barman or housekeeper for £7 ? Thats is £280.00 per week based on 40 wours less 11% (let's say 5% tax and 6% social) that leaves you with £249.20 a week! Well thats sounds ok for a young person leaving with parents(locally) but try to keep a houshold for that.
January 12, 2013 at 6:23 pm
too little too late!! close all doors now"
" Overpopulated
January 14, 2013 at 8:42 am
I wonder if our glorious government have any plan for the flood of Romanians and Bugarians heading this way from 2014, the Uk government is already panicing.
Hundreds of thousands all with children and grannies "
January 12, 2013 at 9:26 pm
sadly ths should of been done years ago. then islanders maybe in work and not unemployed. Instead of eastern europeans"
Racist - ie a person who lives in the real world and can see the problems that thousands of immigrants have brought to our tiny island.
The same is true of people who dare to raise the question in the UK where people are being told that millions of new houses should be build over lovely countryside because of mass immigration
Overpopulated - with your reply you have just admitted how racist you are. By blaming legally working immigrant for bringing problems to the island, what sort of a problem did the immigration brought that you never had before?
If one day all the immigrants were to leave the island at the same time you would be left with loads of empty flats and no cash flow and form being a LandLords you'd have to serve your lunch, become a housekeeper etc..
Overall - I think you problem is that eastern European immigrant have now started having better jobs (like finance or working for states) wanting nicer and cleaner flats, things that are quite obvious for you and that's so wrong(irony)
Well we are where we are because of hard work not because someone roll out the red carpet in front of us.
The only way to deal with this "wacist" silliness is for all of us who care about the island to say that we are (ahem) "racist" and proud of it. Once we do that, we can start to move forward and sort our island out.
That "Sensible" is not me!
Dave C
It's also obvious that the first Sensible, is not sensible.
Sensible 2
Apologies, it is me.
It is obvious that the first Dave C is not Dave C.
So our recent immigrants think they will get all the 'well paid' jobs.
Funny that many locals and long established immigrants with experience and high skills cannot find well paid jobs. I also know well paid locals who are worried that their jobs will come to an end this year due to the downturn in banking.
I always wonder why immigrants come to a tiny island, whine about the accommodation when they could have gone to places like London, Germany etc and walked into well paid employment and luxurious flats.
Beardie Boardie
Quite a few come for the surf, Overpopulated. They put up with everything else, including having to work to pay for the HP on the £35,000 VW T5.
I disagree that islanders are racist. Jersey has always absorbed other nationalities in the past. Scots, Irish, Welsh, English, French, Italians, Spanish and Portugese have all come in great numbers over the last 175 years and been made welcome.
The trouble is that, lately, there have been too many incomers in too short a time for us to be able to absorb them and our culture has been over-ridden by newcomers who 'know their rights' to our detriment.
C Le Verdic
Most incomers tend to be made welcome as long as they appear to be potential sexual/marriage partners.
Drunks, scroungers and those who don't mix tend to attract hostility and negative comments on their place of origin.
Jersey Eco Warrior
I think the terms 'racist' and 'bigot' need redefining. Tribal pride and fighting for ones island is more appropriate. My fear is what is it going to be like one, five, ten years down the line. What decisions are not taken today will affect not only us but all future generations and people who live here. It is easy to destroy but far less easy to create. I am a highly educated and skilled born local about to face unemployment and I know for a fact that I will find it hard to get work. It took me 8 months the last time and, yes, I am prepared to work for the minimum wage but know that I am up against stiff competition for unskilled work. Also, I have paid taxes for forty years and claimed nothing in return.It gets to the point where you ask the question 'What is this all about?'.
Real Truthseeker
Jerraz - ignore the bigots, you are SPOT ON!
Parktown Prawn
You can talk!!
You do nothing but moan and insult the very people who allowed you opportunities here in Jersey.
Your own country didn't offer you these same opportunities otherwise why do you remain in a place you clearly despise!!
People like you need to look inwards at yourselves before criticising others!
You wouldn't know what being a "native" to a country is all about.
Unless you are a native Maori then as an "immigrant" New Zealander you are no doubt some kind of bigot in your own country too.
Funny that hey!
Parktown Prawn
"Reading all above i come to the conclusion that most of the islanders are just racists!"
Well, I have been to Poland my dear sir....and to say they were hostile and rude to us "foreigners" would be a massive understatement!
Eastern Europe is renowned for its racism, particularly seen at football matches.
Don't throw stones in glass houses!
"I wonder if our glorious government have any plan for the flood of Romanians and Bugarians heading this way from 2014, the Uk government is already panicing."
....and what is YOUR government doing in YOUR homeland to try and keep its so called "skilled" workers there to improve its own economy????
Maybe you should look at your own country and government before criticising others!
BTW, you harp on about paying taxes, but judging by your example (£280 per week wage) this amounts to annual earnings of £14,560. The threshold for a single person's tax is £13,370. This means you are only taxed 27% on £1190 = £321.30 .... for the year!
You say you are contributing....hardly....this is pitiful so stop complaining. There are many "average" Jersey wage earners paying 20 or 30 times more than this.
For a laugh, you will like this, lets all us on say April Fools Day just leave the island and go to Warsaw, 50,000 beans turning up and saying we have decided to swap with your country for a year, where is your Social Security Department and where can I buy a pram.
This is said in jest but why does it not happen the other way around? I never see Polish newspapers complaining about Brits taking their jobs.
God's Own Island
What on earth would we want to go to Warsaw for?
Not difficult to see why they come here!
You'd probably die in Warsaw at this time of year without a job. Does it get tolerable by April 1st?
I live in jersey from 1983 to 1994 mydaughter was born there we live ina one room bedsetter my daughter bed room was closset under a stear way when slavery was ithe usa 1700 they live better than us jersey still lives in dark ages but Igot out of jersy couldent but up with there bullshit if poeple are still liveing under these con should leave no one has to live like that there plenty of other places to go the germans took overjersey in1940 Ithink there still there
Did you write that post in Gaelic as I cannot understand a word of it....
The plain fact of the matter is that we live on a 9 miles by 5 rock in the middle of the Channel. We have limited space and resources and for the sake of the greater good, have some unpalatable decisions to make. If you want to call people who want better living conditions for their families "Racist", then most of the world is just that! People from outside any community will be blamed for social/economic issues in most parts of the world! What we do need to do is put proper controls in place and deal with the biggest problem, which is unemployment. Our beloved States members must be made to listen to the public and forced to do their jobs, which means doing right by the people of the island! Forget about the petty power struggles that go on in the States chambers and actually do something positive, other than lining your pockets off the backs of everyone else!
A lot of the problem is cultural, not racist.
Anka if I was trying to seek work in your country my prospects would be zero ! Therefore there would be no benefit for me .but you come to jersey knowing our system, claiming for benefits you would not receive in your own country
Real Truthseeker
Only reason it woudl be zero is you haven;t learnt the language. At least Eastern Europeans made that effort. Good luck to them.
You wouldn't get past the door if you spoke ten languages!
Parktown Prawn
Not all of them CAN speak english though....and the ones that can (to some extent) do not necessarily understand it properly.....and that is a big problem in my opinion!
And today on the ITV website it states that there are now 359 children in our schools who cannot speak English.
How much is this costing taxpayers? How can the parents be working here if they don't speak English? Their tax for the year would not cover this cost let alone pay for any Jersey persons pensions.
What a total disaster
Some of the islanders mentality never ceases to amaze me, Hitler would be proud.
You all complain about the number of foreigners. Am I the only person who was annoyed that when job hunting I was unable to "compete" against the unqualified, let the best man/women get the job...
If one is "low skilled" then instead of heading to the local pub on a Friday/Saturday, why not spend the time and money educating yourselves?
One last reminder... There is a big world out there, you may have to do what billions of others do... Emigrate.
learn to spell Irish !
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Real Truthseeker
Good article written by a Mr John Davis about the truth behind immigration in Jersey in Letters on Monday or Tuesday. If you want to know the basis which makes immigration bashers look ridiculous - maybe take time to read it!!!
I don't want to know. I just want someone to stop the island being overrun.
Err, yes, RT. A pro-immigration letter written by someone who begins his letter by stating that he has migrated to Jersey- no conflict there then!
Yes, someone who does not remember not long ago when the roads were not like motorways, rubbish was not thrown in every hedge row and some developer was not building 'much needed houses' (now still for sale) everywhere.
And you did not have to wait 12 months to see a specialist.
I realy don't understand why you can see thta immigration is a burst for your economy. Just look at 2011 Census report: http://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20CensusReport%2020120808%20SU.pdf PAGE 8
I realy don't understand why you can see thta immigration is a burst for your economy. Just look at 2011 Census report: http://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20CensusReport%2020120808%20SU.pdf
there you can see how many people in Jersey are immigrants, and most of them are in working age!!!
So just think for a sec. All money made in Jersy is spend in Jersey on Grocery, clothes, pertol etc..also people with childerns spend even more. So if you kick out all immigrants out of the Island you will be left with plenty of jobes but no hands to do it and all sales will be down.
Arording to Jersey statiscics department there are 1740 unemployedo that is something like 3% out of 64k working age! Its not much, and majority don't work because they don't have the job they would like not because there is no job!
When i was store magager i have employed jersey born sales assistant, after 1st week that person started comming late 5-10 min, taking a bit longer tea breaks, so we had a chat then fisr verbal worning and then written but nothing worked to improve the time keeping while other staff have to do more work. That person told me that would preffer to be sacked and claiming income support as a single parent as it was better off financially than working for £8.00ph
So how does the immigrants take over jobs from locals if they don't want the job?
Another thint is thta regulations of 5 years or propsed id card will breach the EU law (human rights)
What is worrying is that you were in a position of authority over a Jersey person, Jerraz. It is also worrying that you don't seem to be able to write properly. How did you manage to string a written warning together?
Why would it be worrying that Jerraz was in a position of authority over a Jersey "person"?
In regards to Jerraz and a written warning... I hate to break to you Sandra but if the organisation for which he worked for is large enough, it would be the HR department dealing with any written warnings...
Well, that is a relief. Thank you for the reassurance. Phew!
C Le Verdic
Well, I worked for, or should I say, was employed by, a very large organisation. It was my line manager who gave me written warnings, not HR (or personnel as it used to be called). Luckily, she didn't copy them to to anyone influential!
HR bod
Presumably she knew how to string a sentence together.
C Le Verdic
Funny that you should mention sentences, HR bod, she was also a magistrate. She could have had me strung up, if I hadn't been so lucky having such a wise and worldly boss!
Whether it be a human resources department or otherwise, it is odd to see someone claiming to exercise authority over a local in their own island when the one who claims to exercise authority can't even be bothered to write properly. Clearly, the "position of authority" did not follow any aptitude test.
It looks like you have't got any better arguments so you pick on my spelling. Well for your information i'm dyslectic and i have the same problem even in my native language.
I thing someone has mention in this conversation that "Jersey still lives in dark ages" - couldn't agree more.
But why stay if it's so bad and in the "dark ages"- ?
How did you know that you gave the written warning to the right person?
Parktown Prawn
"All money made in Jersy is spend in Jersey on Grocery, clothes, pertol etc"
Now you know that is not entirely true!!
How much money is transferred out of Jersey back to your homeland, to family or simply savings for a better life when you return??
"..also people with childerns spend even more"
Does that include paying for the interpreters in schools for all those who cannot speak the native language?
Thought not!
Those my dear sir are examples of a DRAIN on our economy!
You say "When i was store magager i have employed jersey born sales assistant".
Please explain why, exactly, you hired this person above other applicants then......are your judgement of character or interviewing skills lacking perhaps?
I had to employ person with 5 years residency and at the time there was no one else, so it's not my skills but the law.
Parktown Prawn
Presumably you sacked this person.....so how did you fill the role afterwards....if the 5 year residency law restricted your hiring?
Why can't/didn't you explain this to the Social Security Department?
I am sure they would be very interested to hear nobody else applied for this job when we have so many on unemployment benefit!
It sounds a bit of a tall story to me, Jerraz.
I have heard more than one story of that kind, about poor time keeping, not coming to work on Mondays, not doing the job etc, from owners/managers of companies. Some people prefer the benefits if they are available
More than one tall story does not make a valid one, particularly when the pot calls the kettle black.
Parktown Prawn
...and this is one of the points I was trying to make above.
A lot of non-natives like to justify their presence in the island by claiming the natives are "lazy", "stupid", "unskilled" or whatever.
Yes there are some, but there are also many non-natives who fit those descriptions.
I have worked with many hard working, clever and skilled natives.
I have also worked with many "lazy", "stupid" and "unskilled" non-natives.
Should I assume all non-natives are the same?
No? Then why do most non-natives think the same towards all natives?
The headline should read that "YOU WILL REQUIRE A PERMIT" to move residence or job. Under user pays this will cost you money. That the government also have some control over your movements is a mere bonus for the civil servants.
I think we are a bit off the topic now, the idea is that the states want to bring id card which will cost taxpayers more!
I don't understand why some locals are so much against immigrants and can't see the real problem, you say "local" but look around how many businesses are just jersey branches, that is real DRAIN of jersey economy-Parktown Prawn
I've always support local because i wanted to be the part of the community but this trend of anti immigration changed my opinion about Jersey.
I agree that this is small island and can only fit it that much and some solution is needed but there is no need for any abuse like:
January 17, 2013 at 3:10 pm
What is worrying is that you were in a position of authority over a Jersey person"
how I am different or worst than the local? What makes you better that the legal immigrant
and also what it mean local any more? A real jersey born from generation to generation?
You say "Heritage" so why you almost forgotten your language - Jèrriais?
Parktown Prawn
"how many businesses are just jersey branches"
Well, a lot of them, particularly in finance, have an international customer base Jerraz. They employ local residents who spend the money locally on rents and living expenses...(except where people shop online or send their mney back "home").
This scenario is NOT a drain on the economy. Can you differentiate?
"I've always support local because i wanted to be the part of the community but this trend of anti immigration changed my opinion about Jersey."
Well, you know what?
We've always welcomed immigrants and wanted them to be a part of the community but this recent trend of anti-local and failure to integrate into OUR society has changed my opinion about immigrants!
What is worrying is that you were in a position of authority over a Jersey person.
Omg what a discussion. I am imigrant myself. Live here 3 years and during this time I really can see how Jersey is changing!! And not for the better...
When I came here it looked like heaven - nice and smiling people, beautiful nature, wasn't difficult to find job, appartment. What else do u need? And what now? More and more not really friendly people coming( don't want to be rasist but u probably know what I am talking about), sitting in the parks, drinking alcohol, later "looking for problems", going steal.. So this what we have now. But can u think what will happen when all Bulgarians with families will come? Jersey will change completely... Because of different culture...different living style. But like I said, I am just an immigrant and I will not sit here like polish people and cry for them rights... I just will emigrate. Coz it will not be left the jersey I saw first time
It really is quite frightening when someone who has only been here for 3 years can see just how much it has changed in that short space of time :(
I welcome people like "Mrs", what a pity more of our incomers are not like that. They often seem so arrogant and disinclined to respect Jersey and the Jersey people, yet they want to reamin here. We certainly need to legislate before we have all of the eastern european countries' migrant workers heading here to crowd ten to a room and then complain about it.
I salute you, madam and wish you all the best.
Thanks Francis
The thing is what I wanted to say - we (all immigrants) are just guests here, no matter how long we live here. All we need to do - to respect locals, them culture, law.
Talking about arrogance - oh yes. I really don't want to be rasist but... Dont need to go far away. Just go to big Boots... Makes me sick of that polish language everywhere between sales assistants. They just should be banned talk the language. I think it is rude. Sorry but it is just my opinion. Just like I said - u HAVE to respect country and people where u live


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Academic staff from four disciplines formed an interdisciplinary team to develop a curriculum for collaborative learning across three schools. The curriculum focused on the ability of students to translate the principles of sustainability into practical design solutions for the Gardens Point campus of QUT. The teaching and learning opportunities associated with the project encouraged students to investigate the sustainability issues within a precinct of the campus, produce a concept plan to improve the site and study a particular issue in further detail to inform detailed proposals for QUT. Most students said they had a positive experience in working with colleagues and staff from other disciplines and further joint projects should be developed to involve students from allied disciplines. This paper describes how the curriculum for collaborative learning in sustainability was designed and the lessons learned from its implementation.
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