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Robert Scheer: Gaping Holes in the 9/11 Narrative
Five years out from the attacks, why do we still know so little about what really happened that day?
What we still dont know about 9/11 could kill us. By "we I mean the public that has been kept in the dark for five years by a president who may know the truth but has chosen to ignore it. Instead of grappling with the thorny origins of that disaster, George Bush willfully turned the nation's attention and resources to a totally unrelated and disastrous imperial adventure in Iraq.
The story was much different in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, the two countries that had recognized and otherwise supported the Taliban government that hosted bin Laden during the run-up to 9/11. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, and yet there has been no serious investigation of the extended royal familys role in the recruitment of bin Laden's soldiers" and the ease with which they secured legal visas to enter the United States.
Nor has there been any credible accounting of the role of Pakistan's intelligence community, then and now, in support of Islamic terrorists on both sides of the Pakistan-Afghan border. Or in the passage of Pakistans nuclear secrets to what Bush refers to as "rogue nations."
Recall that the predominant excuse for invading Iraq was the claim that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and would be willing to pass them on to rogue regimes and terrorists. Not only were such weapons not found, but the evidence from the accounts of former administration insiders and the Senate Intelligence Committee makes clear that the administration was consciously cherry-picking the evidence to shore up its fraudulent case.
There were weapons of mass destruction being shipped to "rogue nations, but they were coming from Pakistan in an extensive program headed by Abdul Qadeer (A.Q.) Khan, the father of the "Islamic bomb." The Pakistan government has admitted that Khan passed on to North Korea, Libya and Iran technical know-how and vital materials for the creation of nuclear weapons. But Khan was pardoned of any crimes by Pakistan's dictator general, President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. Khan is restricted only by a loose form of house arrest and has never been made available to U.S. investigators. Yet the Bush administration dropped the sanctions originally imposed on Pakistan in reprisal for its development of nuclear weapons in return for Pakistans support in the "war on terror."
As for Afghanistan, the Taliban is on the rise. NATO commanders last week urgently requested more troops, and the country is now torn by the anarchy of a narco-state that is supplying 92% of the world's heroin market and generating massive profits for gangsters and terrorists alike. The country is now as dangerous for American soldiers as is Iraq.
Despite this sorry record of neglect in Southwest Asia and the creation of a quagmire and recruiting poster for terrorism in Iraq, Bush once again arrogantly asserts that his policies have made us safer, even as he has undermined our domestic freedoms and mocked the U.S. commitment to international law, particularly concerning the treatment of prisoners.
Last week, Bush conceded that there were indeed secret CIA prisons, when finally announcing that the group of "key witnesses" to the 9/11 disaster would be moved to Guantanamo and for once afforded visits from the Red Cross and minimal legal representation. Some of them have been interrogated in secret for up to five years, with the Bush administration left as the sole interpreter of what they revealed.
After five years of official deceit, it is not too difficult to believe that the isolation of those prisoners was done less for reasons of learning the truth about 9/11 and more in an effort to politically manage the narrative released to the public.
There is glaring evidence that the latter was the case. The 9/11 Commission report contains a disclaimer box on page 146, in which it is stated that the report's account of what happened on 9/11 was in considerable measure based on what those key witnesses allegedly told interrogators, and that the commissioners were not allowed to meet the witnesses or their interrogators.
We submitted questions for use in the interrogations, but had no control over whether, when or how questions of particular interest would be asked. Nor were we allowed to talk to the interrogators so that we could better judge the credibility of the detainees and clarify ambiguities in the reporting."
In short, the most cited source that we have on what happened on 9/11, the much celebrated 9/11 Commission Report, was stage-managed by the Bush administration, just as it has controlled and distorted so much other information.
In light of that sorry record of the propagandistic exploitation of the 9/11 tragedy for partisan political purpose, is it any wonder that large numbers of Americans have doubts about all of it and that a considerable industry of documentaries and investigative reports has sprung up with alternative theories ranging from the plausible to the absurd?
In the sidebar to the left, we offer some examples of the better of those efforts, not by way of endorsing them but rather because there is so much reason to doubt the "truth" as the Bush administration has packaged it.
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By John Hanks, July 6, 2010 at 11:41 am Link to this comment
911 demonstrates that man is not a moral actor, unless the racket media writes the script
By John Hanks, May 25, 2010 at 6:22 pm Link to this comment
Newt Gingrich arranged for Murdock's citizenship. Sedition and treason are sedition and treason.
By John Hanks, May 17, 2010 at 2:09 pm Link to this comment
Media conceals. It has a stake in Israel and monopoly in general. 5 Mossad agents were picked up at the scene.
By John Hanks, May 17, 2010 at 10:30 am Link to this comment
The first question to ask is, Who benefited? Neocons, Israel, and Republicans benefited from the 911 stunt. Circumstantial and physical evidence is abundant.
By Speculator, May 15, 2010 at 8:13 pm Link to this comment
A hypothesis:
Assuming that the fall of the World Trade Center Towers and builidng seven were somewhat unusual, and the the eyewitness accounts, I put forth the following question:
When planes did hit the towers, is is possible that months or evewn years earlier the entire World Trade Center complex was wired for a controlled demolition IN THE EVENT OF such a terrorist attack given that the 1993 plan was not to destroy the buildings wholesale, but to force one of them to topple into another, and then cause more damage and death?
This does not mean there was not an attack, only speculation that either the the City of New York, or the Federal Government, knowing these were potential targets, had pre-riggedc them for a controlled drop if it looked like the buildings and occupants could not be saved. It explains the efficiency and quickness of the buildings' collapse.
By Conservative Yankee, May 15, 2010 at 7:51 am Link to this comment
Reichstag fire.
By John Hanks, May 14, 2010 at 5:13 pm Link to this comment
The Broadway attack does look like a blowback for our incredibly stupid drone attack. 911 was masked by a feeble blowback line, when it was truly an inside job by Neocons, Israelis, and Republican traitors.
By Conservative Yankee, May 14, 2010 at 7:57 am Link to this comment
Toot_toot wrote:
They know… Just like EVERYONE KNEW on November 23, 1963.
By Grant, April 9, 2010 at 1:35 pm Link to this comment
The failure
Think about it, the government
Get real, just never listen to Mainstream Media.
By John Hanks, January 2, 2010 at 11:22 pm Link to this comment
The murder weapon and the killers can keep us busy forever. The whole thing can be summed up in "who benefited". That was the Neocons. They plotted 911 largely to serve Israel and Right-Wing (Nazi) Republicans.
By John Hanks, December 21, 2009 at 12:48 pm Link to this comment
Obama is a sequel to Bush. He probably knows everything. He was a hand picked candidate. He is defending the empire.
By John Hanks, September 4, 2009 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
I guess it was a seagull.
By John Hanks, August 22, 2009 at 8:01 am Link to this comment
SteveL So why still no investigation.? I saw foorage of an airplane going through the corner of a building.
By john hanks, July 15, 2009 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment
The protection racket with Katrina was in building substandard levees as if they were adequate. The payoff will come when rich Republicans take over the property at a song. Republicans have been organized crime since 1860.
By david, July 14, 2009 at 9:20 pm Link to this comment
Hurricane Katrina was a hoax orchestrated by the Bush Administration to draw attention away from the unpopular war. When people failed to evacuate as planned, fighter jets bombed the levees. Nothing big like Hurrican Katrina goes on without the President's knowledge and approval.
By John Hanks, July 12, 2009 at 7:48 am Link to this comment
The protection racket is a classic form of rich crime. It took a lot of audacity to do a 911 (plus the wars). The timing and preparation tells the story about the battleship Maine. Vietnam was a protection racket. All you have to do is manipulate a bogus attack on your own. If we weren't such compliant lazy cowards, we would suspect these things right away.
By george747, July 12, 2009 at 4:26 am Link to this comment
By LTJX, July 11, 2009 at 1:18 pm Link to this comment
The unsupported statement by "youraveragejoe" is itself "claptrap". Like most people who offer only a knee-jerk dismissal of anything that questions the political establishment, "avg_joe" tries to dismiss all 9/11 evidence, without even bothering to explain why - as if he's a self-appointed expert in such matters? There are plenty of highly experienced and qualified people in many technical disciplines all around the world who strongly challenge the official story of 9/11. And many of these challengers happen to be from intelligence agency backgrounds in multiple nations.
By John Hanks, July 10, 2009 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment
Why does anyone listen to Republicans any more. They just make up malicious lies out of thin air.
By Sylvia Barksdale, July 10, 2009 at 10:56 am Link to this comment
Robert Sheer once again is on the money!
George Bush is the prime suspect in my circle. Why did he sit composed and collected in the classroom when being told of the tragedy? Why has he denied the Saudi Arabia connection? Why did he tell Americans fantastic lies about Saddam Hussein's arsenol of WMD? And, why did he plunge us into a war with no groundings in truth? If he had sought an iota of respect, he would have had WMD buried so that the army could find them and render him some validity.
On my drive to work on 9/11, the radio announcer exclaimed that a plane had hit the WTC. "Goddamn", I said to my passenger, "what a horrible accident!" She agreed. The ride went on, somberly. Pulling into our place of employment, the announcer screamed that a second plane had slammed into the building. Stunned, we said in unism, "This is no accident!"
Until 9/11 I had considered conspiracy theories to be highly interesting and entertaining tales. I am not so sure of this anymore. After all, the FBI was informed that there were Arabs at a flight school in Florida who were interested in learning to fly a plane but had no interest in landing one. Red flags should have sprung up and these guys taken into custody-, then and there. Were Arabs not arrested in NYC, taking photographs of the WTC and subsequently released?
As Mr. Sheer pointed out, all the important questions concerning 9/11 remain unanswered. I wager that we'll never get the truth from Bush or Cheney or any of their underdogs!
A friend of mine who worked on the 44th. floor of building # 1 was out on maternity leave and another, a stewardess, had gone to Logan and was told she wasn't needed that day, 9/11.
There are sometimes small "miracles" in the most henious acts of man.
By John Hanks, March 26, 2009 at 8:28 am Link to this comment
We know that 911 was murder to set up a protection racket and a coup. We may never know all the details about the murder weapons, though building 7 is a smoking gun. It is the motive and opportunity and criminal record that tells the tail. Leo Straus and the Neocons, PNAC, 911, Anthrax, and the murder of the Wellstone family, plus the lies that brought us into Iraq. There should be no doubt that these people are organized crime.
By David, March 26, 2009 at 3:56 am Link to this comment
Some conspiracy theorists say America was never able to land a men on the Moon. Others say the US military studies advanced alien technology at Area 51. I just want to know for sure if the Blitz was a historical fact, or if the British faked it to draw us into a war with Germany for reasons unknown. Can any of you armchair theorists convince me it really happened? I think it was faked by the Royal Air Force.
By TampaDave, February 8, 2009 at 12:35 pm Link to this comment
Radioactivity was present, yes. This has led to an interesting line of speculation. Information recently became public (somewhat) that the new thing in H-bombs is a discovery of how to focus the effects of the blast within a small angle, as low as 15 degrees. This is how the new "bunker buster" bombs work: they bury themselves in the ground, then explode with all the force pushing forward, completely crushing any "voids" even deep underground. When one stops to consider the sheer number of devices that would have had to be planted to completely pulverize the twin towers, it begins to seem that such a device, planted near the bottom of the tower, with the force all going upward and spreading at only a 15 degree angle, would have been the perfect solution. From all the squibs one can observe during the demolition, there were obviously charges on many floors, but the radioactivity is still an anomaly unless you accept that nuclear devices may have been incorporated.
By George in Toronto, February 8, 2009 at 6:40 am Link to this comment
To Maani—I read somewhere last year of Concrete bunker busting being low level radiation bombs.Israel received 1000. http://science.howstuffworks.com/framed.htm?parent=bunker-buster.htm&url=http://www.fas.org/faspir/2001/v54n1/weapons.htm
By george in toronto, February 7, 2009 at 6:33 pm Link to this comment
I came across a very wealthy India man on business in Toronto. He told me that the WTC steel was deverted from China smelters because it was radio active. His brother works for te indian government. Everything fits into place why India has been getting high tech USA nuke missile systems and alot of american once jobs and F18s. What makes America so evil :^(
By John Hanks, February 7, 2009 at 5:16 pm Link to this comment
I have no hesitation about blaming the Republicans for everything from crappy shoes for union soldiers to sabotaged peace talks, etc. They are habitual criminals and deadbeats who have taken many lives. The only question is who were their accomplices this time. A so-called ordinary American is free to exercise his common sense. No one would have much trouble believing that the Mafia caused 911 for insurance money.
By Da Bronx, February 7, 2009 at 8:01 am Link to this comment
"Actually, that is only one of two theories, neither of which have been conclusively proven."
Actually, that's false. The Maine's hull was blown OUT not in.
By John Hanks, February 6, 2009 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment
I'm sure some Democrats were involved. The problem with spreading the blame in the two party system is that nobody can focus on anything. I basically blame the Republicans, the Mossad, and the Saudis. I'm also sure that Pakistan intelligence and the Air Force were involved. If we could get the Repuiblicans, maybe the rest could be shaken out of the trees.
By John Hanks, February 6, 2009 at 6:48 pm Link to this comment
I never really thought about the Maine "coincidence" until I learned that Rove particularly liked the McKinley administration.
On 911, there weren't many Americans who had a clue about how evil sociopaths are. Now it should be a commonplace for anyone who has watched the Republicans in action. Why are they so attracted to liars and bullies? Because…
By John Hanks, February 6, 2009 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment
I know about the coal bunker theory. But, when you take into account the timing, the Hersh buildup, etc. even clear physical evidence is not decisive. (Is it that clear?)
The Republican party has committed treason numerous times with impunity, including the 1933 coup attempt, the Hitler payoff, and the sabotage of the 1968 Peace Talks. They are basically habitual criminals.
By Da Bronx, February 6, 2009 at 2:50 pm Link to this comment
By John Hanks, February 6 at 9:35 am #
Republicans are the abusers. Democrats are the enablers. 911 and the Battleship Maine are the same.
pure accident, nothing else
By John Hanks, February 6, 2009 at 10:35 am Link to this comment
Republicans are the abusers. Democrats are the enablers. 911 and the Battleship Maine are the same.
By John, February 5, 2009 at 11:34 am Link to this comment
You conspiracy jerks can come back to reality now that Obama's been elected…What's not to know about 9/11? What gaps exist? 19 Muslim terrorists hijacked 4 jumbo jets and killed about 3,000 people in NYC,DC, Pennsylvania…
By Da Bronx, September 20, 2008 at 6:17 am Link to this comment
"every single war(s) and attack(s) that the U.S. or anywhere around the world recieves or starts, is infact, Population Control"
Actually wars do very little to "decrease" population, in fact, WW II expanded it.
If you look over historical population charts the "Baby booms" after each war more than double the war'srespective casualties in evey case.
For population control plague, and the automobile are far better tools.
By I Vision, September 20, 2008 at 2:03 am Link to this comment
A friend of mine made a very interesting point to me the other day, that every single war(s) and attack(s) that the U.S. or anywhere around the world recieves or starts, is infact, Population Control !
It might sound bogus, but it makes since at the same time as well. Like dating back to the attack on Pearl Harbor for example. Rumor has it that the U.S. Government and Japans' Government made some sort of deal to create what would go down in history as World War 2.
It's just another conspiracy of course, dosn't necessarily mean it's true.
Any kind of feedback would be great.
By george [:-), June 20, 2008 at 7:36 pm Link to this comment
Thanks Gutsf for the referral you posted. I dislike sites you still pint the finger that Arabs were allowed to bomb WTC & Pantygone (joke).
By george :^), June 20, 2008 at 12:20 pm Link to this comment
Like in America all of our media(even our CBC) is zionist controlled. Odd thing ,why are they so afraid to question who really done it?
By John Hanks, June 20, 2008 at 10:18 am Link to this comment
I just keep standing by the road at least once a week with a sign that says: (Bush ordered 911). I also have a handmade sign on my car that says: (Hitler did a 911 Stunt too)
I do this not to convert, but to validate all of those who agree.
By John Hanks, May 19, 2008 at 5:30 am Link to this comment
Every generation of Americans produces a new set of suckers to be fooled by both the Republicans and the Democrats. The Republicans (right-wing) set up 911, and the Democrats let them get away with it. In effect, the Democrats drove their getaway car.
The gilded age, the Spanish-American War, the Coup attempt of 1933, the sabotaged 1968 Peace Talks, many rigged elections including the October Surprise, and numerous other acts of treason and coverup testify to the character of both "parties", which are really just one. True to character, the Democrats won't really investigate 911 either.
By Robert, May 18, 2008 at 4:52 pm Link to this comment
I'm old school, so I was educated before that system was used for social engineering. The more people are educated within the system and exposed to mainstream media, the less they know and will not take time to investigate
By Jingles [:-), March 29, 2008 at 6:11 pm Link to this comment
If Hitlery or McCrazie get to be president—-USA will be in big do-do. Markets will crash. Head for the hills. At least with Obama—- he will pander to the black community instead of Israel firsters. If he does not—they have ways of keeping Obomba straight. Forget about any future oresident opening a new 911 investigation—never cause CIA/MOSSAD did it. If anyone did—they would be dead in no time!
By Conservative Yankee, March 29, 2008 at 6:16 am Link to this comment
While I respect your opinion about Obama, it is not the Jerry Wright thing that pushes me away from his candidacy.
Actually I like Jerry better than I like the silver-tongued devils running for high office.
Token and The corporate whore are indistingushable in their positions. One voted to start the Iraq war and they both voted to continue it. Both have taked over a Million and a half from Citi-Group the Jabba-the-hut bank behind the mortgage crisis. Both are getting money from Insurance, Pharma, and Bill Gates.
Both are free-traders, both are amnesty supporters, and neither has a plan which they care to impart.
they are waste-paper for my money.
By John Hanks, March 28, 2008 at 8:01 pm Link to this comment
It is the large-scale ridiculing of all conspiracy theories, without bothering to become acquainted with even one. All governments are founded on lies and bullying, and yet no one is willing to even consider the idea.
By Conservative Yankee, March 28, 2008 at 6:27 am Link to this comment
Sam you say:
I wouldn't trust either of them to cook my lunch, much less run my life!
By John Hanks, March 27, 2008 at 9:19 pm Link to this comment
I hope he collects his settlement in prison.
By John Hanks, March 15, 2008 at 4:13 pm Link to this comment
I think it is better to make accusations and forget the "theory" stuff. Only accusations and assumptions of guilt can force any real investigation. Heat is more important than light. Israel, Saudi Arabia, Neocons, and Republicans did 911. They don't have an opposing theory. they have a cover-up.
By John Hanks, March 7, 2008 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment
911 came about as a result of a movement, which then conspired against the people of the United States to get them to wage war on the Middle East. It is almost a certainty that big oil and the pentagon were intimately involved along with Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Republican leadership.
By Llan Starkweather, March 7, 2008 at 3:17 pm Link to this comment
Throughout this and other sites, the continued association of two unfriendly words, Theory and Conspiracy, that were most intentionally introduced together virtually into our gene pool after the 40s when the Nuclear Family concept was also launched to sell stuff,is unconscionable. It is not to be continued by any thinking or unthinking person. That association, now almost impossible to sunder, was even then preparing for the martial takeover of the country the current apparent government has been about this last decade. You may say Conspiracy Belief, but Theory, like quantum reality, is a tangible reality. And Belief is what theory floats upon.
By John Hanks, March 4, 2008 at 12:15 pm Link to this comment
I have my doubts whether Hillary or Obama call for an investigation. Traditionally, the Democrats always find it more important to forget it and move on.
By John Hanks, February 1, 2008 at 6:22 pm Link to this comment
It will be interesting to see how they will insist on taking care of everything except a thorough investigation of 911. They covered up Reagan's first coup, the Nixon Kissinger sabotage of the 68 Peace Talks, April Gillaspie and Gulf War 1, not to mention the attempted coup of 1933 and Prescott Bush's money for Hitler.
Republicans do the gouging, while the Democrats do the finishing work.
By JoJo is alive!, February 1, 2008 at 4:42 pm Link to this comment
Mania=—try explaining how jet fuel can melt guns.
By John Hanks, January 31, 2008 at 10:22 pm Link to this comment
"Don't be Fooled. Republicans Lie Out of Disrespect"
"The Criminal Mind thinks It Is Smarter than the Ordinary Mind, Mr.Bond"
"No Rugged Individual Ever Looked Good without his Toadies"
"Homeland Protection Racket: If Crooks Can Spy on You, They Can Steal from You."
"Tax It Back! Republicans Use Crook Media to Steal"
"Vote Blind. There Has to be a Pinata Somewhere"
"No Free Enterprise…Just the Same Marked Deck"
"Socialisms Turn Big Crooks into Little Crooks"
By John Hanks, January 31, 2008 at 10:09 pm Link to this comment
an article on Rense.com about Israeli software and the FAA.


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The "flash update" utilities are implemented as shell scripts.
I have not studied them enough to know in what order they are called.
But they do share a common organization structure:
They update U-Boot (if available)
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They update the system image (if available)
And there is scripting for each "set" of U-Boot / uImage
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Since all of this is in the mtdblock device, none of which has a file system that could be mounted during normal operation - it should be "safe" to re-write the contents at any time.
In the case of this thread - all that is lacking is the storage addresses as seen from U-Boot and this problem is solved.
There are two DX(G) machines involved - one with a working serial port, reported as booting to u-boot (although I suspect it is actually booting the kernel and the kernel is doing a panic halt) ;
The other machine - without a serial port, that works normally.
Separated by at least 6 time zones.
It isn't exactly a "real-time interactive" troubleshooting session.
It may take a bit of "peeking" into /dev/mem on the working machine for "known values" of the various images.
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With the Eagles season officially going down in spectacular flames before we even reach December, I suppose it's time to forgive and forget the NBA's most recent unthinkable act. Unless Jeffrey Kessler somehow finds a way to twist some arms and get this thing into a courtroom, where he's been desperate to get it from the jump, the NBA lockout is about to end with the first games to be played on Christmas.
It looks like we've got a season, minus 16 games. Though the season has yet to be finalized, we do know there will be 66 games, there will be at least one back-to-back-to-back for every team, but no more than three, and there will only be 18 out-of-conference games for each team. That last bit means the Sixers won't play in every city, though you'd think they'll play every team at least once.
The timing of the schedule actually probably works in the Sixers favor. Typically, they're on a monster road trip to allow the Ice Capades to take over the Wells Fargo Center. Last season, the trip began on December 18th and lasted through January 3rd. They'll probably start on the road this year, as well, but the trip won't be nearly as long as it has been in the past. There's also no guarantee the trip will take them to the West coast. It could be a "local" road trip with stops that would allow them a home cooked meal.
Anyway, there are i's to be dotted and t's to be crossed, and we've got a ton of work to do to get ready for some basketball. The first step is for the union to reclaim interest (if that's what it's called), then the agreement needs to be finalized and formalized, then voted upon by both sides. Assuming that happens, then we'll get the schedule and start thinking about actual decisions.
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- Currently, Brand, Iguodala, Nocioni, Williams, Turner, Speights, Holiday, Meeks and Brackins are under contract for a total of $54,117,266.
- The salary cap will be the same as last season, so $58,044,000.
- The Sixers will probably sign Vucevic, I would assume for 120% of slot, so somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.69M (I sincerely hope the practice of 120% of scale being the norm is thrown out with the old CBA, but I'm not optimistic)
- Then you have the two qualifying offers hanging out there for Thad Young ($3,992,108) and Spencer Hawes ($4,051,024).
- When you add in Hawes and Thad, plus the Voose, the Sixers are at $63,574,498. Or less than $6.5M below the luxury tax threshold.
- They can afford the full MLE ($5M) without going over the tax, assuming they don't re-sign Thad or Hawes to a long-term deal with a first-year value more than $1.5M higher than their qualifying offer. If they renounce or lose either of those guys, it would create more room under the tax, but wouldn't create enough cap room to do anything with even if both QO's were rescinded, then Bird Rights were renounced.
- If they use the amnesty exemption on Brand, it would drop their number to about $46.5M this season, then they could also rescind the QO to Hawes and get right to the edge of a max contract, which they could extend to...who knows? Nene?
- If they use the amnesty on Nocioni, they'd have to jump through a bunch of other hoops to make it worthwhile in any way.
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Clemson commit Jae'lon Oglesby rushed for 162 yards on 14 carries and found the endzone one time in Daniel's 49-6 win over the Columbia Capitals Friday night. Oglesby rushed for 143 first-half yards in WGOG's Game of the Week, and was played only sparingly in the early stages of the third quarter. That is when he tallied his only score of the night on a 17-yard scamper to cap a 3 play, 54 yard drive that put the Lions up 42-6. WGOG's Blue Ridge Bank Player of the Game was Jared Dillingham who was responsible for the first three Daniel scores, the first two being 24 and 25 yard passes from Andy McCall, before scoring on a 10-yard rush. Daniel added scores from Austin Barnes, Andy McCall, and Dante Gilliard. Daniel, the #1-ranked 3A team in South Carolina, begins region play in Western AAA next Friday as the travel to Westminster to take on West-Oak.
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What is the difference between literature and poetry?", the old man was asked by a coffee shop regular.
"Literature is the mother and poetry the daughter," the guru answered.
He went on: " Literature abides by rules of prose, but poetry drifts with passion as a free spirit.
"Somerset Maugham described poetry as 'the crown of literature'. It is the highest activity of the human brain - an achievement of true beauty and delicacy.
"Literary man cannot say everything, but a poet can. Verse can make you laugh, cry, be silent, or simply think. It instils awareness that you are alone in an unknown world of happiness or grief. In fact the best poem is not composed by wisdom alone, but by feelings and mental inspiration - an inner mirror which reflects our yearnings and cravings from the depth of our being, stimulating and directing our intellect.
"Poetry usually flows naturally, but when some poets try to paint the colour of the wind, it becomes a counterfeit creation. Such 'poets' are merely plumbers of words."
The regular asked: "So you say that there are good and bad poems?"
"No", said the old man, "there is no such thing in poetry. A genuine poem is a contribution to reality. The world is never the same once a sound poem has been added to it, for a fine one helps extend everyone's knowledge of themselves and the world around them.
"Of course, poetry is sometimes like the night, it exaggerates happiness and sorrow, but even sorrowful lines entice a reader with an empathetic inclination to lovingly share the forlorn and lonely nature of a poet.
"It means that you can paradoxically find joy in unhappiness! You become poignantly glad even though the words are sad.
"Although poetry is translatable, much will be lost through linguistical and cultural distance. In other words, it will be understood but rarely felt.
"Literary men are proud, while poets are passionate!
"In essence," said the old man, "poetry is the shorthand of literature."
"My dear lad." He continued, "schools of poetry are as old as the history of reading and writing. Both the Chinese and Indians were writing verse as far back as 3000 BC, and so were the Arabs. But it was the 18th and 19th Century translations or the birth of new poets that popularised the genre.
"In this region," the old man said, "great giants were born. They included Eleya Abu Madhi, Rabindranath Tagore and Allama Iqbal to name just a few. They left a lasting influence on their readers, although all three belong to different schools. Abu Madhi was a philosopher in his own right, asking unanswerable questions. In Tagore's writings on the other hand, you hear the melody of music, and in Iqbal's the roar of thunder.
"But each of them reached the highest pinnacle of their master craft."
"Then where does the famous Omar Khayyam stand among those three?," another regular asked.
"Khayyam," the old man commented," lived almost eight centuries before them. Without a doubt he is the most famous and popular of all poets worldwide. One can see that Abu Madhi is almost a reincarnation of him"
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A group of Burrell School District parents on Monday indicated having a school resource officer and creating more secure building entrances were two of the top safety measures they'd like the district to implement.
Superintendent Shannon Wagner invited parents who responded to a security-related survey earlier in the school year to participate in a focus group to expand on the survey topics.
Wagner said more than 500 people participated in the survey, including students, staff and about 350 parents. Nearly 90 of the parents indicated an interest in being contacted about their responses; not quite 20 of those parents attended Monday's meeting.
Wagner reviewed some of the survey responses, including:
• 90 percent felt Burrell does a reasonable job of protecting children.
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• 73 percent reported knowing a child who had been bullied in the past six months: "We've got a quarter of our population being in a situation where they were uncomfortable at some time," Wagner said.
• Security measures that 80 percent or more of respondents said they'd like the district to implement include more security cameras, more secure entrances, daily searches of student belongings and random searches by a police dog.
Wagner noted several measures have been completed, are under way or are planned for next school year.
Those include making the entrances more secure by installing "mousetraps," which require visitors to pass through two sets of locked doors; installing electronic locks that staff can open, preventing the need to leave doors unlocked; installing "announciator" panels that indicate when an exterior door is open; improving security cameras; undergoing a professional assessment of security threats; requiring all secondary students to wear identification badges; and reviewing procedures for after-school access to buildings.
Other options that have been discussed but not acted on include: hiring an armed police officer to act as a school resource officer; more regularly using metal detectors; installing X-ray equipment to screen student bookbags; improving gates that prevent access to portions of buildings; installing additional locks or other devices on classroom doors; and making windows more bullet-proof.
Wagner said finances, staffing or feasibility, or a combination of all three, have prevented the district from moving forward on the latter options.
The parents on Monday were asked to individually rank nearly two dozen security measures, then work in small groups to further prioritize the options.
Hiring a school security officer and making entrances more secure received the most votes.
Among the next level of priorities were secondary locks on classroom doors, safety glass, a security threat assessment, student ID badges and more restrictive after-school access.
Regina Seidel of Lower Burrell, who has three children in the district, said she'd like to see better screening and restrictions on all visitors — even regular parent volunteers — when they enter a school and the creation of student advisory groups that can tell staff about possible problems within the student body.
"The students know more about what's going on in the school than anybody," Seidel said.
Wagner agreed that preventing bullying and making students feel comfortable enough to discuss potential problems was an important aspect.
"Ninety-five percent of school violence is associated with people already inside building. Newtown was an anomaly," Wagner said of the December shooting at a Connecticut elementary school. "We need to be prepared for that, but we need to be even more prepared for the 95 percent."
Wagner said district officials would continue to review procedures and would continue to communicate with the focus group.
"You can't back off," she said of the need to perpetually review security. "Otherwise, you get lax. You just buzz the door and let people in."
Denise Blose of Lower Burrell, who has a child in Huston Middle School, said she appreciated the district's proactive measures.
"I was so glad when they sent out the survey," she said. "It makes me feel good they're trying to do this stuff."
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Although it may seem like we're always saying goodbye as we head off to work, it just might be those goodbyes kisses (and welcome-home hugs!) that keep working moms on par with stay-at-homes in the snuggle department.
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Rachel Alexandra, who when last seen was making history by winning the May 16 BlackBerry Preakness (gr. I), will make her return to the racetrack in the $300,000 Mother Goose (gr. I) June 27 at Belmont Park. The Horse of the Year candidate will face only four rivals in the nine-furlong test for 3-year-old fillies.
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Rescue dog - will she become less anxious(20 Posts)
Thanks - just catching up with this thread. Great to hear of people's experiences and it does get better. We've started letting her run around int the front garden with a trailing long line in case she tries to vault the fence which isn't that high. This seems to really be helping and today I managed to take her for a walk of about 200m - she pulled intermittently on the way there (and I stopped every time) but not on the way back which was great. I think this thing about not reinforcing anxiety is an issue - our road is very narrow and I have to stop and pull right over into the verge when two cars come in opposite directions (which really freaks her out) which I think makes her believe I think it's something to be frightened about. not quite sure how I'll manage that, but I do think we've made some progress. Interesting about the running - when I run she's very attentive but not sure if that's anxiety or pleasure! Unfortunately her recall is still pretty ropey so we can't let her off the lead, but she enjoys going off with a long line.
Am ordering adaptil and Zylkene - thanks.
Agree with Frettchen re. not comforting her when she's scared. ignore, ignore! Somebody mentioned earlier going jogging with your pup. In our case we felt that running with her also reinforced her fear. The kids were banned (and still are) from running with the lead!
I got my 4 month old rescue pup this summer (he's 8 months now) and when he arrived he was so scared of so many things. The first time i introduced him to other people he hid behind my ankles; his ears were permanently down, and he seemed desperate to get onto my lap at all times (because he'd figured out that I was fairly safe... he's definitely more of a lady's dog than a man's!)
Anyhoo - I took him out almost every weekend (I volunteer for a small charity who fundraise at a lot of village shows) with a crate for safety. At first I just encouraged him to be with me, near the crate, but meeting new people. Then, started walking him round the show grounds (aka village greens!) and eventually he grew more confident.
Last month I started bringing him in to my office daily so he's now dealing with a lot of people, and often a group of other dogs, and his confidence is continuing to grow.
However, I don't think there was much more of a trigger to my boy's fear than just being young and being somewhere new (he was rescued from Eastern Europe, so had a long and scary journey from there to the UK - this I think was the root cause of his temperament) so I don't think the confidence-building through exposing him to busy situations method would necessarily work on all dogs. You may have to go a lot slower with your girl, but she's young and it doesn't sound an impossible task.
My training tips would be;
1 - don't go over the top in comforting her when she appears afraid. Try to act normally, as if you scoop her up and fuss her you're teaching her that her fear reaction was the correct reaction.
2 - try not to anticipate her reactions; If you're tense, waiting for her to react then you're teaching her to be wary.
3 - set her up for success - start with something small which you think she should be able to deal with;
Maybe try taking her out to the front garden, then returning to the house and treating/praising on getting back inside. Then repeat, but treat/praise whilst outside. Next time take her out to the front garden, wait/walk around in circles, then treat and praise - always reward any relaxed/happy behaviour. (I've just re-read and realised Rotkehlchen went into much better detail on this one!)
4 - Use really high value rewards when out and about. Make liver cake, or take out some cold cooked chicken (my boy loves this so much more than reg'lar dog treats)
We adopted a rescue in the summer. She sounds very similar to yours, but unlike yours was much older. We were also getting very dispondent with the anxiety, pulling etc. - our dog wouldn't even walk off our drive she was so terrified of loud noises and traffic (and we live in a very quiet cul-de-sac!). To be honest I'm not sure what caused the breakthrough but recently she has been a different dog.
I was very sceptical of the claims re. Adaptil diffusers etc. but bought a collar and diffuser in desperation. The change in her definitely coincided with this, so I do think it made a big difference.
She also pulled and refused all food when out. However, the pulling only occured on the way home; when trying to take her away from the house we had the opposite problem - she would lie down and refuse to budge. As I said we couldn't even get her out of our drive. We spent a lot of time with her on a long lead in our front garden watching traffic. At first she wasn't interested in treats, but gradually, over a period of weeks, we could coax her onto the pavement and past a couple of our neighbours' houses. If she wanted to return to the house we would let her (in a way, being able to return to the house was her reward for being brave). After she got to the house we would start the whole process again.
When we wanted to walk her we had to drive her to the local fields. Then we would walk her home from there. Every time she pulled, we'd stop and wait before carrying on. At the time it felt really cruel as you could see that the pulling was anxiety based and she was desperate to reach the safety of our house. Gradually she realised that she got there a lot quicker if she walked nicely.
We really worked on her recall and did a lot of clicker training to try and get her to bond with us. Eventually I suppose she realised that she enjoyed the walks in the fields so much because she got to go off lead. By this stage she was walking home much better, so one day we just stopped driving there and insisted she walked. I used the clicker to reward her whenever she walked nicely, but yes, those first few times were very difficult! After a few days she started to walk much better, so gradually we varied the route adding in extra roads etc.
She's still an anxious dog and we have to keep her away from busy roads. However, the change in her is amazing. It seemed to take forever before we saw any progress, and it was so frustrating at times. I'm hoping that in another 6 months I might even be able to walk her to my kids' school past the main road! (Fingers crossed!). I wish you luck with your dog.
Good luck Diplodocus sorry no advice to add as I am in the same boat with my 5 and a half month old GR pup! Only difference is, he is not rescue!!!! I think it's a long road & we just need to be patient and do things at the pups pace. You are at least lucky that your pup likes your children, that's a good start! Walking out and about was virtually impossible with our pup to start with, but things have improved. I take him to quiet places & he loves to run off lead. I keep it to 20-30 mins max, but I think depriving him of this would be cruel. I try to make sure every time we go out, it is a positive experience & I do not let people (without dogs) approach him (although he is fine with people with dogs). We are seeking the advice of a behaviourist atm. It's hard work, hope it improves for you
Ah sorry I misunderstood. I thought she was stressed by other dogs, but if she's happy around them that's great. As long as they other dogs are well adjusted I'd leave them to it to play, older dogs will (rightly) tell puppies off when they have had enough!
Been there with the stomach problems, it's a nightmare isn't it! Glad to hear she is more settled though!
I think you are right to extend the training to the edge of where she feels confidence, e.g. the driveway. Slowly slowly you should be able to move further as she gains in confidence.
Thanks for your thoughts. In some ways I feel intuitively that you're right in that she should be out and about more. She'll do anything for a specific (hand made!) liver treat in the home / garden but isn't interested when on the road - she's just too stressy and busy. Having said that it's getting better - yesterday I stood at the end of our drive with her and treated her every time she stayed calm when a car went past , and she did take them so think we are getting there a bit. We have a chest harness with a front D ring but that hasn't stopped her pulling - I can physically control her on the lead (she's not a huge dog) so that isn't the problem. I've thought about a face collar (e.g. a gentle leader) but feel a bit uncomfortable doing this if the pulling is based on anxiety rather than control / general over-exuberance. However, maybe will think again unless things improve in next week or two. Chewing is reasonably under control and yes, she is teething. Until recently she was on an exclusion diet on the advice of the vet for skin problems which was a bit of a pain as she couldn't have anything other than her (shockingly expensive) hypoallergenic kibble, but now we've relaxed that and she can have rawhide chews etc. rather than just dog toys we're much more able to direct her chewing.
Interesting what you say about other dogs - she's not at all nervous with other dogs and her social skills are improving a lot - she seems to now know which ones to be bouncy with and which ones to be a bit submissive to. Meeting dogs at the class is great, but obviously they're all young pups who are as bouncy as she is, so she doesn't get practice at reading body language for older, less playful dogs.
I think I will try and get her out more and see how we go. From our educated guesswork of what her parentage may be she is likely to be quite a high energy dog (which is fine with us) and I do wonder if lack of exercise is adding to her stress.
OK a couple of things. I don't agree with all the advice you are getting from your trainer but of course I appreciate I am a random idiot on the internet! It may be an idea to get a second opinion from another trainer and see what they say.
When you say she is not interested in food outside of the house have you tried high value treats? So if she normally eats in the morning don't give her any food at all, but take her for a walk with a lot of things like liver, cheese, chicken and sausage (experiment to find what she really likes). Also try to click and reward for loads of different things, e.g. if she looks at you, click reward, if for a second she is not pulling, click reward, if she responds to her name, click reward, if for a second she is near your legs, click reward. At the moment you just want her to realise that you are the treat dispenser for good behaviour, getting the specific behaviour will come later. If she really is not at all interested in food (it happens!) how is she with a squeeky toy, or a tug toy, or a ball?
Training is great mental exercise and to an extent it does help a dog expend energy but I think you'll only have more problems if you do not give her enough opportunities to expend her physical energy. The pulling takes a while to sort out and your trainer is right that if you walk with her when she pulls you are rewarding the pulling but how about using a headcollar or the new halter type collars (the ones with the lead attachment between the front legs) to gain enough control to be able to walk her now, while doing loose lead walking at other times in the garden as a training exercise?
The chewing could well still be teething at this age, try to distract her with appropriate things to chew, but it could also be a sign of stress.
Are you meeting random dogs in the park? See that for me is something I would not do with a stressy dog. I would put her in a sit stay and reward her for staying calm, waiting until she calmed down and not encourage her into other dog interactions. Interactions with other dogs should be taking place during your training sessions, so your trainer has selected the right dog for yours to interact with and is on hand to talk you through your reactions and body language.
Thanks - will order both. The theory behind not walking her is twofold - apparently if we walk her while she continues to pull we'll never get her to break the habit, and also just not stressing her too much at once. She's OK in the park, but we have been told to view this as very much a learning experience (i.e. learning to greet other dogs without jumping on their heads) and not do it too often rather than exercise per se. Our trainer said to concentrate on training in the garden as it's the mental exercise that tires her out - not physical. I feel quite mixed about it as I do worry she's bored and under-exercised (our garden is moderate sized)- she's quite jumpy and chewy in the house (although not excessively so) and do think with more exercise that might improve.
The pheromones do work for many dogs so they are worth a try, but not all of them. They are not going to solve your problems but when they work they make the dog less stressed and more amenable to training.
Weird advice regarding the walking. I've never heard of anyone suggesting the dog be kept solely in the garden even in seriously reactive dogs (muzzle them and walk them). Might be worth getting a second opinion on that one.
I used zylkene for my dog as he was barking in the house a lot. It really worked for a while (about 4 weeks) but he seemed to become tolerant and reverted back to barking. They were great short term - we also used them when he went into kennels. But aren't really a long term solution imo. And they're bloody expensive!
My behaviourist suggested cutting the dose to one every other day or something.
Thanks booboo. Have you had good results with these? Our trainer has already done a home visit and basically suggested we took it slowly, which we are. Agree though that we do have to able to walk her properly. She's OK in the park on a long leash but we've been advised not to do that too often and to concentrate on training her in or garden.
Try Adaptil collars/diffusers and Zylkene tablets. They mimic the mother dog's pheromones and can be helpful for a lot of stressed dogs.
I would also get your trainer to come assess the dog in her home environment and give you some specific tips on how to overcome the problems. At the very least you need to be able to walk her because otherwise you will get all sorts of other problems from the pent up energy.
Vipers - this is a good idea but I think she's too young to run yet on the road? I trot around the park a bit with her for a bit on a long line which she enjoys (until she tangles the lead round either herself or me!). Sue pooh - whats your dog like now? She has her crate which I think is really important to her and I agree about familiar surroundings, but I'm beginning to panic already about her having to stay somewhere else when we go away on holiday- hopefully not until next summer and a lot may have changed by then, but if not she will be utterly miserable.
We have a rescue dog, and as other posters have said it's a slow process. We found that a set routine, familiarisation with his surroundings and just allowing him room to feel secure worked. A space of his own, in our case a kennel in the corner of the garden for him to 'own' helped although this isn't always practical. Our vet was very helpful too, having had rescue dogs of her own. Good luck and keep persevering - the rewards are worth it
Are you able to run with her? Maybe the pace could help to help her mind focus on something else. It would help to tire her out and hopefully that could ease some of the anxiety. It is just an idea, obviously it could be a terrible one!
Thanks both. She loves her crate - another positive. I'm not expecting miracles - it would be just nice if she could trot along on the school run (or indeed enjoy any walk on a lead) or greet visitors (who are often desperate to meet her).
This sounds to be what I am dreading. Just trying a puppy, but he's very nervous though lovely.
I really feel for you. No advice as such but to say, our dog was a rescue stray from abroad and we've had her a year. Like your she was / is scared of everything, inc. other dogs. She is better now than when we first got her but is still nervous of new things. Crate training helped as it gave her a safe place, as was asking all visitors to ignore her, even if she plucks up the courage to sniff them. Good luck. It's a long road. Our behaviourist told us that even though she would get better, she would most prob always be a nervy dog as it could be in her genes.
Hi all. Need some advice and reassurance. We've had our rescue dog nearly 2 months now, and she's around 6 months. When we got her she was extremely anxious and scared of anyone outside the family (she was also quite wary of DH). She was always happy around the DDs. While I knew it would take time for her to settle, I'm beginning to get a bit despondent. We still can't really take her for a walk down the road as she pulls like a train due to anxiety. Walking to heel works OK in the garden with treats, but she is completely uninterested in food once beyond the garden gate. She's still frightened of adult visitors / people in the street, especially men. She also doesn't really focus on us at all when out.
She has many good points - she has never shown the slightest hint of aggression, and is really sweet. She can be left alone without howling the place down, and to my surprise is unbothered by fireworks and thunder. She loves other dogs and is fairly happy travelling in the car. I just really feel for her as her life isn't that enjoyable at the moment. She loves being around us but can't be out and about with us as she is so anxious - she even seems quite anxious around the house much of the time, and has started barking, which is a bit of a pain. She goes to a training class, where the leader is very good at giving advice, and we've tried a Thundershirt (which did nothing). We're taking it very slowly with her and letting her go at her own pace, but I'd really like some reassurance from anyone who's had an anxious pup. Is it likely to get better or will she always be crippled by this anxiety? We don't know her history but don't think she was actively abused.
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Date: Tue Sep 16 18:59:22 EDT 2008
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