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On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 05:45:10PM +1000, Lachlan McIlroy wrote: > Dave Chinner wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 03:31:23PM +1000, Lachlan McIlroy wrote: >>> A while back I posted a patch to re-dirty pages on I/O error to handle >>> errors from >>> xfs_trans_reserve() that was failing with ENOSPC when trying to convert >>> delayed >>> allocations. I'm now seeing xfs_trans_reserve() fail when converting >>> unwritten >>> extents and in that case we silently ignore the error and leave the extent >>> as >>> unwritten which effectively causes data corruption. I can also get >>> failures when >>> trying to unreserve disk space. >> >> Is this problem being seen in the real world, or just in artificial >> test workloads? > Customer escalations. And the main cause is what? Direct I/O into unwritten extents? >> If you start new operations like writing into unwritten extents once >> you are already at ENOSPC, then you can consume the entire of the >> reserve pool. There is nothing we can do to prevent that from >> occurring, except by doing something like partially freezing the >> filesystem (i.e. just the data write() level, not the transaction >> level) until the ENOSPC condition goes away.... > Yes we could eat into the reserve pool with btree split/newroot > allocations. Same with delayed allocations. That's yet another > problem where we need to account for potential btree space before > creating delayed allocations or unwritten extents. It's the same problem - allocation can cause consumption of blocks in the BMBT tree. At ENOSPC, it's not the allocbt that is being split or consuming blocks... Metadata block allocation due to delayed data allocation is bound by memory size and dirty page limits - once we get to ENOSPC, there will be no more pages accepted for delayed allocation - the app will get an ENOSPC up front. The reserved pool needs to be larger enough to handle all the allocations that this dirty data can trigger. Easily solved by bumping the tunable for large mmory systems. FWIW, determining the number of blocks to reserve for delayed allocation during delayed allocation is not worth the complexity. You don't know how many extents the data will end up in, you don't know what order the pages might get written in so you could have worst case sparse page writeout before the holes are filled (i.e. have tree growth and then have it shrink), etc. Even reserving enough blocks for a full btree split per dirtied inode is not sufficient, as allocation may trigger multiple full tree splits. Basically the reservations will get so large that they will cause applications to get premature ENOSPC errors when the writes could have succeeded without problems. That's why this problem has not been solved in the past - it's too damn complex to enumerate correctly, and in almost all cases the default sized reserved pool is sufficient to prevent data loss problems. For the unwritten extent conversion case, though, we need to prevent new writes (after ENOSPC occurs) from draining the reserved pool. That means we either have to return an ENOSPC to the application, or we freeze the writes into preallocated space when we are at ENOSPC and the reserve pool is getting depleted. This needs to be done up-front, not in the I/O completion where it is too late to handle the fact that the reserve pool too depleted to do the conversion..... That seems simple enough to do without having to add any code to the back end I/O path or the transaction subsystem.... >>> I've tried increasing the size of the reserved data blocks pool >>> but that only delays the inevitable. Increasing the size to 65536 >>> blocks seems to avoid failures but that's getting to be a lot of >>> disk space. >> >> You're worried about reserving 20c worth of disk space and 10s of >> time to change the config vs hours of enginnering and test time >> to come up with a different solution that may or may not be >> as effective? > 65536 x 16KB blocks is 1GB of disk space - people will notice that go > missing. Still small change for typical SGI customers. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Terrebonne pitched a double shutout as the Lady Tigers blanked Ellender 5-0, and the boys beat the Patriots, 4-0.
At Houma, Amy Duhe got the scoring started when she fired a shot past Lady Patriots goaltender Katie Belanger found the Lady Patriots� net in the 28th minute.
Five minutes later, Mindy Fanguy scored to extend the Lady Tigers� lead to 2-0, and Katie Babin added to the advantage in the 35th minute as Terrebonne (15-4-2, 7-0 District 7-I) took a 3-0 lead into halftime.
The Lady Tigers held Ellender (6-10, 2-5) to no shots on goal in the first half. For the match Terrebonne outshot the Lady Patriots, 31-1.
"What we had to do was have patience, move the ball around, and find the right opportunity," Terrebonne coach Julio Contreras said. "In soccer, it is not that easy to score. You have to find the right precision and the right time."
In the 58th minute, Britni Crone increased Terrebonne�s lead to 4-0 and Ana Contreras capped off the scoring in the 61st minute.
"They had some really good shots," Ellender coach Beth Guidry said. "The defense stepped it up when they needed to, but you can�t stop those shots. I have to give it to my girls. I think they played a great game."
Belanger made 18 saves for Ellender, and Terrebonne goalie Sarah Damen stopped the only shot she faced.
At Houma, the offensive struggles the Ellender girls team faced carried over to the boys team as it was shut out by Terrebonne�s boys.
The match�s first goal came in the 20th minute off the foot of Josh Beeson. Fifteen minutes later, Brennan Hebert increased the Tigers� lead to 2-0, which they carried into halftime.
Tyler Fanguy scored in the 76th minute for Terrebonne (12-3, 7-0) and the final goal came 3 minutes later from Jason Fontenot off an unassisted corner kick.
"We controlled the tempo of the game," Contreras said. "We did what we wanted. However, we couldn�t get the ball in the net. We wasted a lot of shots (efficiently) and need to work on scoring."
The Tigers outshot the Patriots (4-6, 2-5), 32-1. Ellender goalie Thaddeus Hayes made 19 saves and Terrebonne goalie Craig Verdin stopped the only shot he saw in limited time.
"We didn�t get it going offensively," Ellender coach Tawaskie Anderson said. "We played well defensively. We could have passed the ball better. At the end, I guess we got a little tired and gave up those two goals."
At Buddy Marcello Stadium in Houma, the Terriers used a balanced scoring attack to crush the East Jefferson Warriors Friday in the District 7-II opener.
Vandebilt (15-2-1, 1-0 district) had seven different players score a goal in the match. Scoring for the Terriers were Elliot Lewis, Furman Lambert, Lynn Dupre, Scott Bergeron, Zack Blum, Dustin Ybarro and Jeff Deblieux.
Ryan Porche and Mason Smith split time at goalie for the Terriers.
Vandebilt will host the Jesuit Blue Jays at 1 p.m. today in a non-district match. The Terriers also added a home match against Dutchtown for 6:30 p.m. Jan. 23.
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Matt Labat led the Trojans with two goals, and scoring one goal each were Clint Blanchard, Blaine Matherne, Kyle Guidroz and Justin Richardson.
Central Lafourche led 2-0 at halftime.
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Kelly Savoir led Central Lafourche with two goals, and Brittany Grabert scored the other goal.
"I think we played well tonight in some aspects of the game," Central coach Mohamid Hammadi said. "I think Thibodaux played well and stayed close because of their defense."
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Clueful, an app to help users monitor other apps approach to privacy issues, has been booted from Apple's App Store with little explanation.
As detailed in a short post by Bitdefender, Apple approved their Clueful app under the same rules they are now using as an excuse to boot the app from the App Store. Why? Evidence points to Clueful doing it's job, and revealing the sad state of privacy in iPhone apps.
After analysing 60,000 iOS apps, Clueful found that 42.5 percent do not encrypt personal user data, even when sending that data over public Wi-Fi. Over 41 percent track location, and one in five apps can read, copy, and transmit the entire contents of your Address Book.
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...and 95% of iPhone users are too clueless to give an iCrapGordon Delgado on securityweek.com
Sounds like Apple doesn't want people knowing about how much information is being taken from their phones... too bad it sounds like a great app.kingjames105 on cnet.com
Too bad really if they were actually looking out for the consumer.mstone on appleinsider.com
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Apple is just doing this as an desperate attempt to hide what everyone already knows - they care less about our privacy.MarcosWerewolf on cnet.com
And so when iOS 6 rolls out with increased privacy controls and requires user permission when an app attempts to access to contacts, calendar, etc. (making this removed app obsolete), the pundits will whine that the pop-up dialogs are a major annoyance.markbyrn on appleinsider.com
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HUNTINGTON WOODS — The suspect in a Huntington Woods bank robbery case will be sentenced later this month on four felony charges.
John Azell Jones pleaded no contest in Oakland County Circuit Court before Judge Shalina Kumar during a Feb. 5 pretrial. Jones, 47, of Royal Oak Township, is facing charges of bank robbery, unarmed robbery, fleeing and eluding police, and resisting and obstructing police. He is scheduled to be sentenced by Kumar at 1:30 p.m. Feb. 26.
After allegedly robbing the Chase Bank in Huntington Woods last September, Jones led police on a high-speed car chase that culminated in a foot pursuit in which he was shot by a pair of officers. According to Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper, Jones' actions during the chase caused the officers to react in self-defense.
"He took a shooting stance toward them with something in his hand, but it turned out that the object was just a big black comb," she said. "But those officers had no way of knowing that he was not pointing a gun at them."
The Oakland County Sheriff's Department was later called in to investigate the shooting. According to Undersheriff Mike McCabe, the study indicated that there was no wrongdoing on the officers' part.
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Jones' defense attorney, Judith S. Gracey, could not be reached for comment at press time.
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The witness followed Jones as Jones left the scene in a white Ford Taurus, notifying police about the suspect's location and behavior. Using that information, officers from several local agencies were able to catch up with Jones on southbound Woodward, near Lincoln Drive.
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In a handful of majority-Muslim countries atheists can live safely, if quietly; Turkey is one example, Lebanon another. None makes atheism a specific crime. But none gives atheists legal protection or recognition. Indonesia, for example, demands that people declare themselves as one of six religions; atheism and agnosticism do not count. Egypt's draft constitution makes room for only three faiths: Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
The rise to power of Islamist parties after the Arab revolutions is likely to make life more miserable still for those who leave Islam. New rulers in Tunisia and Egypt have jailed several young people who have been outspoken about their lack of belief. Such cases occurred before the revolutions, but seem to have become more common. Alber Saber Ayad, an Egyptian Christian activist who ran a Facebook page for atheists, has been in custody since September for "insulting religion". His alleged offence was posting a link to an infamous YouTube video that caused protests in the Islamic world that month. He was arrested by a Christian policeman: Egypt's Coptic church does not look kindly on atheism either.
Although some Islamic theologians interpret these provisions to mean that apostates will be punished in the afterlife, most see them as ordering that former Muslims must be punished by death. All four schools of Sunni Islamic law teach that male apostates should be put to death, though two say that female renegades should only be imprisoned. A number of leading Islamic figures, such as Egypt's grand mufti and Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a Qatar-based preacher, say that the death penalty is deserved if the apostate "subverts society" or "damages Islam". All agree, however, that repentant apostates should be spared; the time and sincerity needed for such disavowals to count is debated.
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OllieMcCarthy said
@Glenn – It's an awesome part of the planet. Way better than Ireland right now What countries did you visit; any places you think I should definitely check out?
I visited Hong Kong, China (twice), Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Sabah, Philippines, South Korea (here at present), and Japan.
It sounds like you met the Minsk man in Hanoi… Oh the memories! I'm guessing you bought the Minsk?? i did, and the breakdowns in the middle of nowhere were the best part!!
I'm not sure what you're into, so i don't like to advise you something inappropriate. I can give you a bit of advise about motorbiking Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand. Diving Thailand, Sabah and Philippines. Send me a PM with any questions… i'm happy to help if i can
and happy hols!!
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/raises hand.
I'm in the Philippines.I'd recommend the Philippines if you have the time and money.Believe me you don't need that much money.
it's a lovely part of the world. true that you don't need much money, but factoring in flights and scuba diving it still adds up.
I'm just on route home (N Ireland) after a SE Asia trip. I don't have the sales that you have, but it's nice to see a fellow Irish Themeforester making the most of his cash and doing SE Asia.
I'd recommend the Philippines if you have the time and money.
Enjoy your trip
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OK, I will start. We are 2 guys (front end and back end developer) and we are dating sisters (but unfortunately not twins, hehe).
i just had a look at your profile and everyone you follow (that i can see) is a hot girl…
no wonder your fact is female orientated
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GlennMcKeown saidThere is a hole in it, a rat ate through it.
wpCanyonThemes saidwhat's wrong with his raincoat?
You forgot to tell him you hate his Mac.
the cat really is useless then. maybe it was the feline who wanted the documentation to be puuurrrfect
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You forgot to tell him you hate his Mac.
what's wrong with his raincoat?
Can someone please advise of the location of any (if any) bookshops in Singapore that would sell wordpress books?? traveling through in next few days.thanks
Why limit yourself to local book shops when you can order a book from site like: http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/They are great and they also have free world wide delivery. I bought a jquery book from them and I'm very pleased.
thanks for advise, but for now it doesn't help my situation. I'm backpacking, so have no delivery address cos I rarely know where I'll be in next few days!
will defo check out that website though
Can someone please advise of the location of any (if any) bookshops in Singapore that would sell wordpress books?? traveling through in next few days.
ok it's working now…
just kept resetting & trying.
patience is a virtue!
Try a "hard reset" on the iPod.
tried that multiple times & after reinstalls, deleting temp files, restarting services, everything they suggest, yada yada yada. looks like i'll have to take it to an apple shop. what a piece of cr@p
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I run my xbox at 1080i and I believe that my xbmc is the same. When I run some scripts they go off center to the right or to the extreme left.. it's quite strange. I'm trying to get xbmcmythtv to work to try it out, however, I'm finding that it off center to the right and the mythtv logo is getting cut off. Is there anything that I can do here?
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Not to sound smart... but do a search on the forums for 1080i. I am 99% certain you'll find numerous references saying the xbox just doesnt have the resources to pump XBMC properly/effectivelyat that resolution.
That being said, 99% of all scripters are not really going to shoot for anything above 720P.
In the case of that script, dive in with notepad and it shouldnt be too difficult to change the size of the image that is being displayed, just find the image name and look at the dimensions used and then its just a matter of trial and error
Also, did you do the video adjust in settings to make certain its sized up for the screen your using?
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text: States throughout the country are cracking down on drivers who poke along in the left-hand lane. They're imposing new laws, strengthening existing laws, or stepping up enforcement of laws that penalize those who drive too slowly in the left lane, or who tool along in the left lane, rather than using it as a passing lane. So while speeding could earn you a traffic ticket, along with points on your driver's license, fines and higher car insurance rates, going too slow in the fast lane often can bring the same penalties. In some states the law targets those who go below the speed limit in the left lane; in others it's aimed at those who block traffic in the left lane, regardless of how fast they're going. In some states the law applies only to those traveling on the interstates; in other states it applies to anyone driving on a divided highway. A slower driver in the left lane can prompt other motorists to weave in and out of traffic, trying to pass them. "With each lane change, there are more opportunities for a crash," says Capt. Stephen Jones, spokesperson for the New Jersey State Police. New Jersey increased its penalties for slow drivers in the left lane last year. "I have seen cases where someone is trying to zip in between the guys on the right when the one in front is going slow, and those are dangerous maneuvers," Northeast Florida Safety Council director Jerry Webster told the Florida Times-Union when his state's law went into effect. "And when people get frustrated, they will forget to use turn signals, and you don't know what they are going to do. They will be tailgating and there are rear-end collisions when the person going slow on the left slows down even more."


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Recipe by SharleneW
This batch of dinner rolls can be made up to 4 days ahead--perfect for those big dinners where you want to do as much as possible the day before.
Top Review by PaulaG
These are easy, rich and delicious. I mixed up the dough and refrigerated it for 2 days before shaping into rolls and baking. The directions are right on target and the rolls were a big hit at Thanksgiving dinner. They are also wonderful wrapped in foil and reheated.
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Ingredients Nutrition
- 1 cup warm water (105 F to 115 F)
- 2 (1/4 ounce) packages active dry yeast (4 1/2 teaspoons)
- 1⁄2 cup butter, melted
- 1⁄2 cup sugar
- 3 eggs
- 1 teaspoon salt
- 4 -4 1⁄2 cups all-purpose flour
- additional melted butter (optional)
Directions See How It's Made
- Combine the warm water and yeast in a large bowl.
- Let the mixture stand until yeast is foamy, about 5 minutes.
- Stir in butter, sugar, eggs and salt.
- Beat in flour, 1 cup at a time, until dough is too stiff to mix with a spoon (some flour may not be needed). At this point, use dough hook or knead on floured surface for 10 minutes until dough is smooth.
- Place in a greased bowl and cover. Let rise until doubled, or at this point it can be refrigerated for up to 4 days.
- Grease one 16.5x12-inch or two 12x9-inch baking pans.
- Turn the chilled dough out onto a lightly floured board.
- Divide dough into 24 equal-size pieces (about 50 grams each).
- Roll each piece into a smooth round ball; place balls in even rows in the prepared pan.
- Cover and let dough balls rise until double in volume, about 1 hour. (Remember if you are using dough that has been refrigerated and is cold this step will take longer).
- Preheat oven to 375°F Bake until rolls are golden brown, 15-20 minutes.
- Brush warm rolls with melted butter, if desired.
- Break rolls apart to serve.


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Why a 19th Century Muslim Warrior is a Man for Our Times
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In 1808, a child of destiny was born in the Ottoman province of Oran, today western Algeria. His tribe, the Hachem, was dedicated to the study of the Koran, the traditions of the Prophet Mohammed, and settling disputes. In the decades that followed, his name would be given to a settlement in Iowa, to a ship built in Newburyport, Massachusetts, and to a champion racehorse in Ireland. William Thackery would dedicate poetry to him. Abd el-Kader's name would be placed on the presidential ballot by citizens of Bordeaux while he was still a prisoner or the French government. President Lincoln would honor him and so would the New York Times. A victim of historical amnesia in the West following his death in 1883, the story of Abd el-Kader's rise to world fame offers lessons for today.
During the mid-nineteenth century, Abd el-Kader was admired from the Great Plains to Moscow and to Mecca—first as a chivalrous adversary of the French after they invaded North Africa in 1830, later as a stoic prisoner who forced France to honor its pledge to grant him passage to the Middle East after surrendering in 1847. Exiled in Damascus, he protected thousands of Christians during a Turkish-inspired pogrom. President Lincoln, Pope Pius IX, French generals and former prisoners sang his praises. Upon his death in 1883, the New York Times eulogized, "The nobility of his character won him the admiration of the world.... He was one of the few great men of the century."
For Muslims, Abd el-Kader reminds them that true jihad, or "holy exertion," lies not in the zeal of bitterness to fight whatever the cost, but in living righteously in accordance with Divine Law. During a life of struggle with foreign occupation, despair in prison and exile in a foreign land, he never allowed the demons of hatred and revenge to trump compassion and forgiveness. His story is timely. It is one of struggle, of restraint and self-control harnessed to Divine law, as one might expect from a man whose name means "servant of God."
Abd el-Kader waged war according to Koranic rules of conduct. These prohibit the destruction of nature, shooting in the face, mutilation of dead bodies, killing of women and children, priests and monks, rape, and the mistreatment of prisoners. The emir ended the centuries-old custom of desert warfare of decapitating prisoners taken on the battlefield. Prisoners were an unwanted burden, and the distribution of plunder was determined by the number of enemy heads taken. To counter the protests from his soldiers, the emir offered bounty payments for prisoners brought in unharmed, but for those guilty of mistreating prisoners, his "reward" was 25 strokes with a cane on the soles of their feet.
Exhausted after fifteen years of sacrifice and suffering in the face of superior French military power, Abd el-Kader persuaded his die-hard lieutenants to lay down their arms in what had become a futile armed resistance. The Koran forbids vain and useless suffering and no one could accuse the emir of not giving his all for the cause of God. His offer of a truce surprised French generals and enabled the emir to extract from them a promise of free passage to the Middle East to live in permanent exile. A month later the monarchy fell and a new republican government renounced the agreement.


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FLORENCE — With a population of nearly 1,000, Florence is often the blur outside commuters' windows as they speed to Killeen or Georgetown on State Highway 195.
But the view will change in July when the new 195 "loop" around Florence opens, diverting traffic to the east side of town.
The multicounty project will widen State Highway 195 to a divided, four-lane road from Killeen to Interstate 35, north of Georgetown.
Once open, the 7-mile stretch around Florence will divert commuters from the town's two traffic signals and lower speed limits.
The city's revenue from sales tax and traffic tickets could shrink as a result of the decline in traffic.
Warren Earp, owner of the Florence Hair Emporium along Main Street, said he is not too worried about his business, but could see ones along the current highway losing money.
"D Boones (Country Store), which used to be off 195, has already moved next to the Dollar General," said Lexi Farrar, referring to a local business that moved from its original location closer to the new highway.
Last year, Florence made about $187,000 in sales tax revenue, and the yearly, bottom-line figure has been steadily increasing since 2009.
But another concern could be a loss in traffic citation revenue from the more than 11,000 daily travelers whizzing through town.
Commuters pass through two school zones along the road, and often Police Chief Julie Elliot-Abshire patrols the area.
"We give about 200 to 300 tickets out per month," she said.
According to city documents, the police department issued 591 speeding tickets between October and April. Speeding ticket revenue alone generated about $40,000 for the city in the past seven months.
During that time, the police department issued 1,299 total violations, meaning speeding tickets accounted for roughly half of the citations.
A portion of the new highway will be in the city's jurisdiction, so Florence police will be able to patrol it, Elliot-Abshire said.
She said her department is not concerned about the potential loss in revenue, but rather the safety of residents.
"The majority of people that we write tickets for in our school zones are doing 10 miles over," Elliot-Abshire said, explaining she believes the new road will make the street safer for children in the area.
"I prefer compliance over punishment any day. I would rather them just slow down in school zones than write a ticket."


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If and when you read the new Counterpoints book Four Views on the Spectrum of Evangelicalism (Counterpoints: Bible and Theology), and I really recommend you do,
Which view will you read first? And why?
The book presents four views on Evangelicalism:
- Fundamentalism (presented by Kevin Bauder of Central Baptist Theological Seminary)
- Confessional evangelicalism (presented by Albert Mohler of Southern Seminary)
- Generic evangelicalism (presented by John Stackhouse of Regent College [Vancouver BC])
- Postconservative evangelicalism (presented by Roger Olson Truett Theological Seminary)
I think the view that we are most interested in reading about is likely the one we're most likely to identify with. For me that is the generic/postconservative evangelicalism of Stackhouse and Olson. I'm not saying that I agree with say Olson in every detail but I find myself most at home with these conceptions of the movement.
My own biography has spanned this spectrum. I was raised in a fundamentalist home and attended a university that was fundamentalist but on the move to confessional evangelicalism (for example they allowed us to attend a movie theater after my Freshman year . . hip hip who-ray!). I attended a seminary that was somewhere between fundamentalism, a confessional evangelical and generic evangelical institution (this range depended largely on the particular professor). After getting a Ph.D. at a university (of no religious affiliation) and studying at Tyndale House (a generic evangelical context) I now teach at an institution that would fall squarely on the left side of postconservative evangelicalism. I feel at home in this setting although I'm probably on the right side of most issues (theologically and politically) among the wider faculty of the university.


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One of my undergraduate photography professors at the University of Delaware once told me: "Bad weather makes great pictures… now go shoot four rolls in the rain." If I were shooting for a postcard company I would have to call BS on that, but as I have told myself many times over the last ten days, blue skies are boring. … Continue reading
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I've had more than one Rodney Dangerfield moment on this trip. One that sticks in my mind happened last Thursday when I was hiking around to the back side of the fortress of Montesa. You might think these castles would be built at the highest point within view, but it most cases they are built at the end of a spur that juts out from a larger chain of mountains into a valley below. So as I was climbing around looking for better vantage points to take pictures, I went off the trail quite a bit. As I rounded one corner, I scared up something really big in the brush that bounded almost straight up the side of this cliff. As I blindly shot pictures of whatever was moving I heard an ear-splitting screech at the top of the ridge. I'm not sure why, but as I turned to see the source of the screech I said aloud: "Did that donkey just whistle at me?" … Continue reading


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Position Paper of Avenging the Ancestors Coalition (ATAC)
Membership and Purpose
Avenging The Ancestors Coalition (ATAC) is a broad-based organization of African American historians, attorneys, elected officials, religious leaders, media personalities, community activists, and registered voters. ATAC was founded in 2002 to compel the National Park Service (NPS) and Independence National Historical Park (INHP) to finally agree to the creation of a prominent Slavery Memorial to conspicuously permeate the President's House project. The purpose of this Slavery Memorial is to honor primarily the nine African descendants enslaved by President George Washington at the President's House, which is also known as America's first "White House" and which was located at the current site of the new Liberty Bell Center in Philadelphia at Sixth and Market Streets. Those nine were among the 316 Black men, women, and children enslaved by Washington at his Mt. Vernon, Virginia plantation.
Strategic Activism
After years of letter-writing campaigns, petition drives, demonstrations, public forums, press conferences, and negotiations, ATAC was victorious in persuading the NPS and INHP to finally concede to the creation of the absolutely historic Slavery Memorial, now called the President's House/Slavery Memorial project.
Also, ATAC provided voluminous documentation to city, state, and federal officials who, along with private contributors, provided complete funding for this approximately $12 million project. It should be noted that it was former Mayor John F. Street who was the first official to begin funding the project and who created the project's ongoing steering arm, namely the Mayor's Oversight Committee. And it is now Mayor Michael Nutter who has expanded and enhanced the project.
Furthermore, ATAC successfully demanded that "today's free Black sons and daughters" of "yesterday's enslaved Black fathers and mothers" play a leading and substantive role in designing, building, scripting, and maintaining the project.
ATAC requires this Slavery Memorial because justice demands it. Justice demands it because ATAC's ancestors, as forced laborers for 246 years from 1619-1865, transformed America into the economic world power that it remains today, because ATAC's ancestors died for America in all of its wars, and because ATAC's ancestors had their freedom, culture, family, language, land, religion, name, and often their sanity, limbs, and even lives ruthlessly stripped from them for nearly three centuries by America (and other European-initiated slave trading countries) in a manner unlike anything ever experienced in the history of humankind. ATAC also requires it because it an essential step toward telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about American history.
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Scott Molloy (Born 1977) known by his stage name DJ Hazard is a drum & bass DJ and producer from Birmingham. He is part of the True Playaz & Ganja Records label and also releases songs under his alias Dirty Harry and Vague through his own record company Radius Recordings. DJ Hazard can be usually found on the last Friday of every month, at the FabricLive Playaz night at Fabric, Farringdon, London.
Time Tripping / Digital Bumble Bees
Hype and Pascal drop the new one from Hazard - a man who in the jump up world needs no intro - two new tracks which have been tearing up the floors at Fabric following his epic hat-trick at this year's DNB Awards.
'Time Tripping' (which debuted on Fabric live 65) is nothing short of magical; with its Slaughterhouse Five vocal sample and eerie melodies on top of Hazard's slick snare (although might prove one of the more challenging tracks to beatmatch this Summer) and 'Digital Bumble Bees' delivers solid gold skanking beats with a spoonful of honey.
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Gallery: Nick Conway of SGVCOG, facing four felony counts at preliminary hearing in LA
LOS ANGELES - Relying on reams of documents and hostile witnesses, Assistant District Attorney Dana Aratani laid out his office's case Tuesday against former San Gabriel Valley Council of Governments Executive Director Nick Conway.
Conway was arrested at his Pasadena home last June and charged with four felony counts of conflict of interest. He has pleaded not guilty and listened in court as Aratani implied Conway wrongfully sought and obtained contracts, sometimes including state and county grants, that financially benefited himself and his consulting business, Arroyo Associates.
The District Attorney's office specifically alleged Conway's company received an additional $143,000 in one fiscal period.
But the crux of the case, partly revealed in the first day of a two-day preliminary hearing, is whether Aratani can prove COG contracts and grant monies weren't just business as usual for the San Gabriel Valley planning agency headed by Conway for 17 years. Rather, Aratani is trying to show they were part of a sophisticated and illegal scheme that fooled a board representing 31 cities, the county and local water districts.
Aratani spent the morning questioning COG secretary and former Arroyo Associates employee Kathy Boyd. He asked about COG contracts, and change orders in which "additional payments" were made to Conway and his management company, though apparently no additional employees were hired.
For example, Aratani pointed to initial management service agreements in which COG would pay Arroyo $34,354.98 per month. "But those generally increased. The earlier MSAs were not that high," Aratani said to the witness.
Some change orders paid Arroyo an additional $6,250 a month, an additional $8,333.33 a month, and an additional $8,750 per month, Aratani pointed out to Boyd. Documents show these were approved and signed by Conway, she testified.
Repeatedly, Aratani asked Boyd to acknowledge the documents obtained in a search warrant in June showed additional payments to Conway and Arroyo that "at times appears to be for the same work (as shown in previous service payments)," he said.
However, Kenneth White, Conway's attorney, successfully objected, and Boyd did not have to answer that question.
Later, White tried to establish that all contracts, payments and service agreements were always approved by outside attorneys working for COG.
"The conflict of interest doesn't depend on advice of legal counsel," Aratani shot back.
But outside the courtroom, White repeated the defense's main theme: "Everything Mr. Conway did was approved summarily by the COG, the governing board and the COG's attorneys - in public," White said. "This demonstrates a context for what he is being charged with."
In the afternoon, Aratani questioned Marisa Creter, a former Arroyo employee hired by Conway who is now working temporarily for the COG, about a grant from the Department of Conservation for a watershed coordinator pursued by Conway. But Creter often answered "no" to pointed questions about her role in negotiating contracts or answered she didn't understand the question.
Aratani asked her about an email she wrote to Boyd, inquiring whether Conway had the authority to accept the grant and enter into a contract. The issue at stake was Conway's possible conflict of interest, he said. The email was labeled "in the red category" by Boyd, Aratani said.
"Is this something you would be concerned with?" Aratani asked Creter.
"What do you mean by concerned with?" she answered.
Later, she testified that she was always concerned with doing a thorough job, whether writing grant proposals or typing up and mailing out agenda packets to board members.
Conway's contract was terminated Oct. 30 by the COG Governing Board. The COG recently hired a new executive director, Andrea Travis-Miller, the acting city manager of the city of San Bernardino.
Set to testify for the prosecution on Wednesday will be Walnut City Councilman Tom King, a former COG board president, and Diamond Bar City Council member Carol Herrera. Both have criticized Conway and the COG in the last few years. Both were in the courthouse Tuesday, waiting to be called to the witness stand.
Judge M.L. Villar de Longoria said the preliminary hearing will continue at 9 a.m. Wednesday. Aratani said he expects to be finished presenting his case by the afternoon.
At the end of the hearing, the court must decide if there is probable cause to go to trial. That will be left up to de Longoria, who listened intently Tuesday, asked questions of the witnesses and thumbed through pages of evidence.


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Carlos Edwards' late winner gave the Blues a vital 1-0 victory against the play-off chasing Trotters.
"Obviously we're disappointed with the result," said the Scot.
"It was a very hard-fought and physical Championship game. From the 60th minute onwards, I thought we were dominant in possession and created a few opportunities.
"We could have worked their goalkeeper a bit more, but we looked the more capable team towards the end and the most likely to score.
"We had the ball in the right areas, but were perhaps let down by the last decision whether to shoot, cross or control the ball in vital areas.
"To then get mugged at the end was very disappointing, but we mustn't look back.
"We're a match for anyone and there's no doubt in my mind we can win another five games, especially playing the way we did, to keep our season alive."


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And, girls, what do you suppose that grouchy old fisherman will say when he sees we lost his rudder?
"I don't play to the grandstand," growled the grouchy pitcher.
What do you suppose that grouchy old man will say when we bring him back his boat without the rudder?
It is said that he waited for grouchy to join him before the close of the action.
The only dissenting note in the praise-chorus was the grouchy old baggage-man's.
Well, I was that grouchy I wouldn't look at myself in the glass.
Very anxious the Outdoor Girls looked as the grouchy old farmer came toward them.
The boys waved their hands in farewell to the grouchy sentry.
I knew it was just about time for some kind of an off-key noise from you, you grouchy old leftover.
Dream: I apply for information to a grouchy clerk who refuses to impart it to me.


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So - anyone who ever says "fat girls are lazy", CLEARLY didn't see me out in the park this weekend. My curvy butt ran all about playing, kicking, punting and throwing an American Football. It was so much fun and completely invigorating... By the way, I have MAD SKILLS.
I have a lot of gym wear at home, but I felt like wearing a light top and skirt - maximum movement, air flow and comfort... I went for my ASOS CURVE Forest Top - this is literally one of the lightest tops I have ever worn. It is a perfect fit for my body - with loads of room for my boobs, but also figure-flattering around my hips. While no longer available online there are a LOT of t-shirts from CURVE on sale - my top is soft and easy to wear - GREAT value too.
My skirt was courtesy of City Chic and made for a comfy and easy choice to play about in. Lots of you know that denim skirts are part of my fashion uniform, so as one of the most comfortable and loved items I own - it made for an easy item to run about in. The biggest mistake I made? FLIP-FLOPS. Next time, it will be sneakers - all the way... especially if I plan to kick the ball and not hurt my lovely feet like some sort of doofus!
All in all, it was a beautiful weekend here in London... and my freckles basked in sunshine and... SPF (Do it!!)


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Bars to kilopascals conversion table shows the most common values for the quick reference. Alternatively, you may use the converter below to convert any other values.
1 Bar = 100 Kilopascals
Bar is the atmospheric pressure at the sea level.
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Protests erupt after Iranian election
Monday, June 15, 2009 : Clashes between police and supporters of defeated candidate Mir-Hossein Mousavi erupted in the Iranian capital of Tehran over the weekend, after election officials declared the incumbent Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner in last Friday's presidential election.
Mousavi, widely promoted in the international press as riding a wave of popular opposition, received just 34 percent against 63 percent for Ahmadinejad. Disappointed supporters, mostly young people, took to the streets, burning vehicles, torching shop fronts and clashing with riot police to vent their anger over the result. US and Western media have generally inflated the extent of the protests and the police crackdown. In an on-the-spot report, BBC journalist John Simpson breathlessly speculated on whether he was witnessing the beginning of a revolution against the regime—from a crowd that he estimated at 3,000. The Los Angeles Times reported that "huge swathes of the capital erupted in fiery riots" but went on to describe clashes involving "hundreds" of demonstrators chanting "Down with dictatorship!" and "Give me my vote back!" There are reports that up to 100 people have been arrested, including 10 leaders of two groups that backed Mousavi. At one point it was reported that Mousavi had been detained, but his wife denied that was the case. The brother of ex-president Mohammad Khatami was detained then later released. Al-Arabiya television was shut down for a week and a number of websites have been blocked. Mobile phones, which were not functioning on Saturday, were working again on Sunday. Undoubtedly, there was bitter disappointment among layers of students and young people who expected that a Mousavi victory would bring an easing of the Iranian regime's anti-democratic restrictions. Mousavi branded the outcome "a dangerous charade" and protested against the "numerous and blatant irregularities" in the vote count. Yesterday, he wrote to the Guardian Council calling for the election to be annulled. The other so-called reform candidate Mehdi Karroubi, who polled just 0.8 percent, condemned the result as "engineered" and "ridiculous". Several commentators have pointed to anomalies in the results. The Christian Science Monitor, for instance, noted: "Mousavi lost to Ahmadinejad in his hometown and ethnic Azeri heartland; reformist candidate Mehdi Karroubi lost in his ethnic Lur home province and scored only a miniscule number of votes nationwide; and Ahmadinejad won Tehran and many other urban centres, where he has long been considered to have less support than rural areas." While election rigging probably took place, the outcome is not the "surprise" and "shock" presented in the international media. All of the candidates—the conservatives Ahmadinejad and Mohsen Rezai, and the reformers Mousavi and Karroubi—were vetted by the unelected Guardian Council and are part of the political establishment. In the final weeks, the campaign was highly polarised around Ahmadinejad and Mousavi, who represent different factions of the ruling elite. As a result, the very low votes for Rezai and Karroubi are hardly surprising. Read More


text: Posted August 1, 2011 Cam ignored Peter King today at camp. King tweeted: SI_PeterKing Peter King Interesting but not too surprising: Just got stiffed at Panther camp by Cam Newton. Chose not to talk to me post-evening practice. Why would Cam do this ? Well for 1 Cam has been known to stay away from media. Apparently this was a thing at Auburn. But there is more to the story. ExcellentLinkHereClickBitches Lets break down the The guys at KissingSuzykolber.com do such a good job breaking it down I will just quote them. I really don't think context is the issue, but you asked for it, so here it is. Are you ready for this? No. You are not ready for this. It's so breathtakingly illogical that your mind will condense to the size of a golf ball once you absorb it. A few of you, some angrily, have asked for the story behind the tweet that launched a thousand reactions the other day — this stand-alone quote from Cam Newton: "I see myself not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon." I'll explain. Please do. After about 12 or 13 minutes, I asked him about his deal with Under Armour; I don't remember my exact question, but it was something about what he expected the deal to do for him. And he said one of the things he wanted to stress was that he saw himself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon. So, he was talking about an endorsement deal. Well, in that context, the quote seems fairly harmless. I had thought all along that I wouldn't use anything from our conversation until this week, after I had seen him at the combine and, hopefully, got to spend a little more time with him. When we got off the phone, I began to think about what he'd said. I knew it would be something that would raise eyebrows among NFL teams, who like their prospects to be single-minded, not entering the league thinking about anything except being the best player they can be. I wasn't gonna use this quote. But then I thought, WAIT! This could really fug Cam Newton over if I run it with no context whatsoever! As a journalician, I knew immediately what I had to do. I thought if anyone else in the lineup asked him about the Under Armour deal, he'd probably say the same "entertainer and icon" thing. I didn't want to make a news story out of it… But let's make a news story out of it! …but I did want to get it out that he'd told me this, so I sent it out to my 510,000 followers on Twitter. I didn't want this to become some big THING, you know? So all I did was tell half a million people about it. SECRET: KEPT. One of his representatives called the next day to tell me, basically, that I'd sabotaged Newton just before the combine, and it was going to damage him, and if I'd written this as part of a larger story with context, no one would have seen the quote as very troublesome. I told him you're kidding yourself… if this were in a long story about combine prep and the deal with Under Armour, the media at large would have plucked out the quote and run with it the exact same way. You're fooling yourself buddy. EVERYONE in the media would have fuged you over with that quote, and that makes it okay! Also, we're white! How does the context of the quote change the impact? To me, not at all. Holy poo, really? Hey Cam, do you think this new endorsement deal will give you more visibility as an athlete? "Oh, sure. I see myself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon." Are you open to being a spokesperson for the Hitler Youth? "Oh, sure. I see myself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon." How are you in bed? "I see myself not only as a football player, but also an entertainer and icon." You see? Context means NOTHING. It's like the draft. Totally overrated. Hope this helps your hate. :sifone: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites


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Be a man! Stop piddling your birthright away on jeans that are too tight and hairstyles that make you look like a girl. Seriously, grow up and learn to be a man. This is sound advice that was given to me by several people, mostly my dad and has helped me greatly.
I want to start out by acknowledging that not everyone will agree with what I deem to be manly but as I said, this is advice I was given and it has served me well.
1. Learn everything you can. Become an expert at becoming an expert. Learn how to love learning. I don't know how many different ways I need to say it but this is probably the most important piece of advice I can give. I don't think that I am substantially smarter or more knowledgable than most of my peers but I do think that I am more capable but it isn't for any special reason. I think it's because I simply love to try new things and learn as much as I can in the process. I know this is kind of an overarching piece of advice, but it really is the starting point for anyone who wants to change for the better. Cultivating a passion for learning everything I can about everything I come across has made me a better and more capable man and I am certain it would do the same for anyone else.
2. Be chivalrous and a gentleman. Chivalry is dead. I think feminism probably killed it but who knows. That's an entirely different conversation. The point is, chivalry should not be dead, it should be alive and well and in the hearts of every man alive. Unfortunately, pop culture and most modern day influences and icons are demonstrative of a self-indulgent and dismissive man who cares for nothing but his own gratification. Now when I talk about being a chivalrous gentleman, I don't mean a sniveling wimp whose sole purpose is to cater to every whim of every woman and open every door and pull out every chair. No, that is not a gentleman and that is not chivalry. What I am talking about is much harder to convey than all of that. What I am talking about is developing a sense of pride and respect about your masculinity and learning to treat others, men and women, with that same pride and respect. I think I will write another post just about this topic in the future, but for now, learn to respect yourself as a man, and learn to respect others for the dignified individuals they are. And for heaven's sake, mind your tongue.
3. Work with your hands. Have you ever seen a real mans hands? Do they look like yours? Maybe, if yours are dented, scarred, and calloused. You need to learn how to work with your hands. Fix a leaky faucet. Change the oil in your car and learn small engine repair. Build something out of wood that is bigger than a bird house. If the resources are available, learn to weld and work with metal. Master simple electrical and plumbing work. Learn to grow a garden and look after animals if you have the space. All of these things will serve you well in the future. If you own your own house you already know what I am talking about. Stuff breaks and if you know how to fix it you'll avoid all sorts of headaches. Knowing how to do even the most basic of these things will save you a ton of money in the future and you might discover a passion or hobby that you never knew existed. The sense of pride, self-respect, and accomplishment that come from doing work with your hands cannot be attained by doing anything else. You can try to find it elsewhere, but you will fail.
4. Dress appropriately and be presentable. Clothing, perhaps more than anything, tells the world how to make its first impression about you. It doesn't matter if you think that is right or fair because that's just how it is. People are judgmental and make snap decisions about you the second they see you, so be aware of how you are seen. First, dress for the occasion. I have seen grown men wear jeans and a polo to a wedding. If you don't know why that's not appropriate, you are probably beyond help so skip to the next section. Buy a suit. And I don't mean a piece of junk from JC Penny. Find a good suit, made out of wool, that fits you correctly. If you don't know how a suit should fit, look it up. Shine your shoes and make sure they are made out of leather. The general rule is, it is better to be overdressed than underdressed. Obviously casual clothing is appropriate for casual occasions. Second, dress for the season. This is dependent upon the climate zone that you live in but if there was snow on the ground a month ago you probably shouldn't be breaking out the shorts yet. Finally, style is completely up to the individual, but there is good style and bad style, so do some research and find out what works for you. And when it comes to grooming, keep your self clean and kempt. This applies to hair, beards, mustaches, nails etc. Really this stuff shouldn't need to be mentioned but if you look around there are guys who seem unaware of it. Remember, class is for men, swag is for boys......and idiots.
5. Educate yourself. This is similar to point number one, but more specific. Education is incredibly important. While this obviously applies to getting a college degree, I am also referring to self education. Read books. Look things up when you have a question. Learn to research and find correct information. Learn to read critically and learn to write correctly (And now because I said that, someone will find a mistake in this post). Be smart and learn from those who are smart. Most often when I see others look down on those they consider to be nerdy, it is because they are jealous of the intelligence they admire. If you are wondering, Is College Worth It, click the link and you'll get a "nerdy" explanation from a smart guy I really admire.
6. Workout. Really? Come on guys how can you expect to call yourself a man when you look more like a walrus. I don't care what you do for exercise. Probably the manliest thing you could do is chop wood all day with a large axe but that's just not practical. Seriously though, do something physical that will develop some muscle strength and stamina. You don't have to be Mr. Olympia but you do need a chest that is larger than your gut.
7. Develop outdoor skills. This one may be less important but I think it goes a long way in helping you become a well rounded man. Again, read some books and learn some new skills. Man has been surviving outside for thousands of years so why shouldn't you at least know the basics. Fire making is of obvious importance. If you have ever spent the night outside you know that it gets cold, even in warm climates. You will want to know how to build a fire using various methods. The next important skill you should learn is shelter building. Shelter is important for the same reasons as fire. It keeps you warm and it keeps you dry and these two things will keep you alive if you ever get lost or stuck in a remote location. Really, learning outdoors and survival skills is a lifelong pursuit and there literally thousands of resources available from the internet to courses at your local outdoor retailer that can teach you what you'd like to know. Start with what interests you and then move into related areas. Again, you might just discover a skill that you excel at and you never thought you'd enjoy.
8. Cook good food. Learning to cook is much more important than you'd think and not just because it can impress a date. First, you really need to stop drinking soda and eating corn dogs and start eating vegetables. When you learn how to cook well you'll find that healthy food can taste amazing. It just takes some time and effort. Learn about proper nutrition and cooking techniques. There are hundreds of youtube videos that make it very easy to learn how to cook everything from ratatouille to the perfect steak. When you start eating properly you'll find that you are much more in control of yourself. At least that has been my experience. Proper nutrition leads to clarity of thought, lower stress levels, more energy, higher metabolism and a whole host of other benefits that will make your life more enjoyable. If you keep your body happy it will keep you happy. Stupid expression, I know, but it's true.
9. Travel. Not possible for everyone. At least not right away. The truth is, travel is expensive and requires a lot of planning and effort, kind of like most things worth doing. But, travel is also extremely rewarding and is one of life's greatest teachers. Learning about yourself and the world comes easiest when you are in a place the is demanding of all your faculties. What could be more demanding that plopping yourself on the other side of the world in a foreign country where no one speaks the same language as you? If you can't afford to travel to some exotic or fantastic location, I would suggest that at least once a year you go somewhere you've never been before. There's got to be some national park, or lake, or something that is within a few hours of where you live. So get in the car an go. Have an adventure and make a memory.
10. Love. Learn the difference between love and lust. If you don't know what this means than you don't know the difference. Be a gentle soul who is kind and loving to all. Callous and despicable men are those that are impatient and quick to anger. Be patient, be honest, and be grateful for those who loved you because you probably didn't deserve all the love you got. So return the favor and show more love to your family and friends, even if they don't deserve it.
11. Be courageous. Do hard things. I think the biggest obstacle that I see my peers running into today is fear. They lack capability simply because they are too afraid to try. You can't succeed if you fail to try, and even if you fail so what? You have taken the first step towards potentially becoming an expert. Find something that scares you and go out and do it. If nothing scares you (doubt it) do something that is difficult. Set goals and push yourself to achieve them. All of the successful men of history had the courage to make themselves great men. It wasn't easy and it was probably scary, but they went ahead and did it and now they are legends. That can't happen sitting on your butt eating canned soup. As Albert Einstein said, "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." Be a great man. Strive for perfection and honor your gender by making it better because you were a part of it.
What this all adds up to is becoming a well rounded man. A jack of all trades type. If you can't be perfect at something, you might as well be good as you can at many things.
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Never, under any circumstance violate your word, or your morals.
Have morals.
Any man who tells you he never betrayed his own moral code probably betrayed it with that lie alone.
Of course, we all do. But I mean set boundaries and follow them. There are reasonable boundaries and morals we can set for ourselves, and reasonably keep. And, if you are committed to a code of honor, then you will understand the true nature of contrition when you break that code of honor.
True. No one can really say that they've never broken they're code of honor, even the old testament -- easily one of the most morally absolutist books ever -- acknowledges that. At the same time, the less you break it, the more your code means to you and the harder it becomes to break.
I learned that primarily from my mother, who always handled all the book keeping at home. Once we got a phone bill with sketchy charges that couldn't have been right. She paid it first before calling the company to dispute it. I warned her that wasn't the smartest thing to do but she said "In thirty-five years I have never failed to pay a debt on time and the longer the streak, the more it's worth."
Morals are easily "overlooked" or invalidated by how pragmatic one tends to be. Now a code...a code is more flexible and allows for additions and subtractions...
This is a great quote, JB.
I really like knowing how you learn best. It is perhaps the most important skill one can have. From that skill all others can be mastered.
I don't think it takes having calloused hands to be a man. Being able to learn what you need to do to fix a sink or change the oil in the car is important, but hard work can be hard mental work. I do think that everyone should have a skill that requires the hands, be it cooking or wood working however.
I would expand number 2 to include socially networking and being a part of the community. A Gentlemen is far more than how you act with Ladies in the modern era, it is how you act and interact with everyone.
Number 7 outdoor skills are an interesting idea but many men grew up in highly urban centers. While I was uncomfortable when I visited New York, many many people find that environment where they wish to live.
Overall I like your list, it is close but a little different from my own internal list. Using your post as a point for reflection and pondering is helpful to me better understanding my own list. For this I thank you.
Certainly cuts out all the crap; but still depressing as Mike is now a dead man.
With respect for your opinion, and replying only to your first sentence.
Being "well-rounded" is just as much a character trait as being stubborn, bigoted, and as the old saying goes, "Never uncertain, but not always right."
Double no.
Because it's not other people's business what is behind your drawers. With kids, it's innocent, but with grown men (or women), no...just no. It's for your wife, not anyone and everyone.


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Hugh Jackman Plays Football With His Daughter in NYC (PHOTOS)
That's exactly what Hugh Jackman did with his own family on Sunday in NYC, where the hunky actor was spotted doing everything from going to church to playing football with his daughter. Too cute!
Hugh is currently starring in his own one-man show on Broadway, the appropriately titled Hugh Jackman: Back on Broadway, which runs through Jan. 1 only.
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Kristin Cavallari is a Wonderful Daughter
Apparently one of the drawbacks to having a reality star for a daughter is that they sometimes drunkenly demand you drive them to Subway at two in the morning when you're both plastered out of your face. Or maybe Kristin Cavallari's just special, and her mom's one of those moms who lets their kids act like howler monkeys in the supermarket. Who knows? I'm just here to draw wild conclusions. TMZ reports:
Police in Barrington, Illinois confirm Kristin's mom — Judith Spies — was pulled over at a DUI checkpoint at 2:15 AM late last month. Law enforcement sources tell us Kristin was riding shotgun at the time, and apparently she was a pretty hungry passenger.
We're told Kristin insisted on fleeing to a nearby Subway and yelled at cops to get her water while Mom went through field sobriety testing with officers. As one source put it, "Subway might be open in 'The Hills' but not here in Barrington at 2 AM."
To Kristin's credit, TMZ says she didn't pull a "Do you know who I am?" move which, of course, completely makes up for getting her mom arrested for DUI. Okay, sure, some might argue Kristin's mom is just as much, if not entirely to blame, but what kind of mother lets her child go hungry? Seriously, there is no worse hunger than stumbling out of a bar with a stomach full of delicious booze. (Zip it, Ethiopia.) I'd eat a hobo's shoe if he told me it was made out of nacho cheese.
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text: To commemorate the birth anniversary of the great mathematician Srinivasa Ramanujam, a CCA was conducted in Math (GANIT) on 16th December 2015 at Orchids The International School – Jalahalli, one of the most popular schools around Yeshwanthpur. A Quiz was conducted in mental math for all grades in which students participated actively. Students were also given a Math worksheet which they had to solve within a stipulated time. The objective of this worksheet was to sharpen students skills of computation, time management and accuracy in responses. Students were completely engrossed in this event and completed their worksheets.


text: Here is another scam that is making its way around. While it is not new, it seems to have been revived, since I've received several of these in the past few weeks alone. Do not even click on the email message, let alone open any of the links; it IS a scam as detailed in the link below. If you are concerned that you have issues with your PayPal account, you can always go directly to PayPal through their official link - www.paypal.com to check the status of your account. But emails alerts such as this one are generally scams and should not be clicked on.


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A NEW mountain biking track in Tidworth is finally coming together after almost three years of hard work fuelled by community spirit.
Tidworth Freeride Club has had the support of a local army regiment, the town council and the general public to turn its dream into a reality and now hopes to be ready to open the new track in time for the Easter holidays.
Set up with the help of CTC (Cycling Touring Club), the Tidworth group has managed to lease 100,000 square metres of land off the A338 between Tidworth and Shipton Bellinger from Defence Infrastructure Organisation, an arm of the MoD.
Soldiers from 26 Royal Engineers, based at Perham Down, helped with a lot of the groundwork, in particular putting in the car park, and volunteers have worked tirelessly to help tidy up the site, put in jumps and clear paths.
Phil Potts, founder of the Freeride Club, said: "In the course of the last six weeks since we got the lease, the local support has been phenomenal. "The Royal Engineers are doing a great job, building company Raymond Brown has given us free materials and Tidworth Town Council has given us a £600 grant. "But it's the CTC that made this possible; without them we wouldn't have got it off the ground."
The course will have six tracks, a progressive jump area, dirt trail jumps and a beginners' area, and people will be able to pay £5 for a day pass or sign up for annual membership allowing them to use all CTC sites.
Mr Potts said gravity enduro racing is growing in popularity and people want a faster, more exciting element to downhill, cross-country biking.
At the moment mountain biking enthusiasts from the area have to travel an hour and a half to the nearest track. "We wanted to put Tidworth on the map for something positive," said Mr Potts. "We've already got 350 people following our facebook page, which gives an idea of how much people want this."
To follow the site's progress or find out more about getting involved go to facebook.com/tidworthfreeride.


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Each week in God and Country Music, Nick Rynerson gives country music a chance and examines the world of Americana, folk, alt-country, and popular country music. For those familiar with Gillian Welch's music, it is no stretch to call her music some of the best country music to come out of Nashville in the last fifty years. For those who are not quite as familiar with Welch, you might be surprised to see where she has shown up: all over the O Brother Where Art Thou soundtrack, bac … [Read more...]
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Private Property Shooting Ranges
Private property shooting ranges are ranges that allow you to use their range to fire your guns for a certain fixed fee, while using these shooting ranges you will be required to follow their rules while range and range diversity is often limited compared to custom-built ranges that have been outfitted to support training facilities. Note: Gun Ranges that have not been visited by usCrow personnel will not be listed. If you'd like to be listed please contact us.
A typical trait of most gun ranges is to mark up their ammo and equipment higher than normal while selling the ammo they fabricated for use downrange. With this in mind purchase your equipment (scopes, sights, grips, and etc.) online.
Las Vegas Gun Ranges – Privately Operated
The Gun Store – Very wide range of semi to full auto firearms individuals you rent for a certain fee. However, this location is very busy and often cramped with tourists and a very short range. The staff there is very informed in firearms and often several classes.Pseudo friendly staff.
Guns and Ammo Garage – A visit to Guns and Ammo Garage's Las Vegas firing range is ideal for families with older children who want to learn more about firearms and develop shooting skills. Because we stress safety at all times, we allow only children older than 10 years old who are accompanied by a parent or legal guardian into the range. Friendly staff, some fresh employees are unaware of their inventory.
New Frontier Armory – Founded in 2009, New Frontier Armory is a full service firearms and class III weapon dealer and manufacturer located in North Las Vegas, Nevada. Our Veteran owned and operated company is dedicated to provide both our local and online customers with fair prices, honest information, and the best customer service possible. We experienced a bazaar two month turnaround for an AR-15 with Magpul Upgrades, however emails were responded to promptly and the firearm is true and of good quality.
Machine Guns Vegas – MGV has an array of firearms to choose from. From pistols to fully automatic machine guns to historical guns to one-of-a-kind SEAL weapons, we have something for every interest. And we will personalize all our shooting packages to our customer's desires.
Las Vegas Gun Range – Medium sized range with a friendly and knowledgeable staff. Several firearms available along with tactical equipment. Unlike other ranges this locations is very open and has a dining area with kitchen staff.
Desert Hills Shooting Club – Desert Hills offers a twenty one station, five star rated, sporting clays course with one five stand, one FITASC five stand, trap and skeet fields, rifle and pistol bays, and an archery field. The club is on over 160 acres of rolling terrain offering a distinct challenge for shooters.This is one of our favorites.
Strip Gun Club – Strip Gun Club provides experienced shooters with the ultimate shooting experience. Experience the thrill of shooting automatics, or test your skill with a precision firearm. First time shooters are instructed on firearm safety and shooting by Strip Gun Club's NRA certified staff to ensure their experience is second to none. Strip Gun Club can accommodate small and large groups – from bachelor and bachelorette parties to corporate events. Group shooting experiences are customized to provide an unforgettably unique experience.
Las Vegas Gun Ranges – Publicly Operated
Clark County Shooting Complex – This shooting range is owned by Clark County and operated under governmental control, before shooting you are required to fill out your information and watch an instructional video, it is up to you if you'd like to use this property but be aware your name will be recorded. However, this is a range only and offers no firearm purchases and etc.. The range is extensive and somewhat diverse.


text: ISLAMABAD: The government is in contact with the political parties desirous of protecting the Constitution and the state institutions, the defence minister said late Saturday night when PTI-PAT protesters were being tear-gassed in the federal capital.Answering questions in a TV programme, Khwaja Muhammad Asif said the army might be called in for the protection of important state buildings. He said the troops could also be called in to have the area cleared of all protesters. However, he did not answer the question as to whether the government was also in contact with the army chief.The minister said nobody could force the government to hold talks at gunpoint. "The talks cannot be continued in the prevailing situation".He said the PTI and the PAT had been testing the government's patience for the past 15 to 20 days. The patience, he said, should not be taken as government's weakness. –Monitoring DeskThis news was published in The Nation newspaper. Read complete newspaper of 31-Aug-2014 here.


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|"David S. Miller" <davem@xxxxxxxxxx>
|Re: dev->destructor
|Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|Thu, 1 May 2003 14:51:11 -0300
|rusty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, kuznet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, shemminger@xxxxxxxx, netdev@xxxxxxxxxxx, wa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
|Conectiva S.A.
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Em Thu, May 01, 2003 at 04:09:35AM -0700, David S. Miller escreveu: > From: Rusty Russell <rusty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 22:01:19 +1000 > > There are 70 calls to dev_hold() in the kernel. The vast majority of > them already have a reference, they just want another one: dev_hold() > can do __module_get(). > > Rusty, this is precisely the what Alexey and myself want to avoid. On > the surface, it looks fine, only 70 dev_get's in the kernel right? > But think further... > > So you propose to add this kind of thing for every ARP entry, every > route cache entry, every IPSEC policy, every socket, every struct > sock, every networking dynamic object ever created? ALERT: brainstorming and expecting for comments from the people who knows this better. Well, I think that because there are a graph of relationships here we perhaps can be safe by protecting just some of the higher level objects (e.g. struct sock, struct socket, struct net_device) while leaving some other lower level objects managed by those higher level ones, e.g. struct sk_buff managed by struct sock. This came to me while discussing the struct socket and struct sock module infrastructure with Max, specifically when net family modules (e.g. AF_INET) doesn't requires protecting for each and every struct socket created, as the protocol modules (e.g.: udp, raw, tcp) have to somehow register with the net family module and by just using one exported function (register_protocol type functions: register_pppox_proto, bt_sock_register, register_8022_client, register_snap_client, llc_sap_open, etc) makes the net family module/lower level protocol protected. So we need to have a graph of these relationships to see what we have to protect at a higher level, reducing the overhead of otherwise having to call try_module_get/__module_get & module_put on _all_ objects creation/use. - Arnaldo
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