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Ovando was a good governor, Las Casas says, "but not for Indians."
Las Casas now undertook to answer Sepulveda's arguments and defend the freedom of his Indians.
Las Casas was partly in sympathy with the Dominicans, but he thought they went too far.
He found palms "of another sort," says Las Casas, "from those of Guinea, and from ours."
They discovered, also, another way to prevent Las Casas from going on.
Las Casas then quotes the account of the natives given by Americo Vespucci, respecting which he makes the following comments.
This was a great perplexity to Las Casas and the good monks.
No one will doubt that battles can be fought poetically who reads Plutarch or Las Casas.
Las Casas at once agreed to go and see what he could do, and set off alone into the mountains.

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April 3, 2012 -- The oil paintings of Northwestern Oklahoma State University assistant professor of art Brandice Guerra will be featured in the Graceful Arts Center as part of the First Friday Art Walk festivities Friday, April 6, in downtown Alva. The solo show opens Friday with a reception from 6 to 8 p.m. in the gallery at 523 Barnes.
After more than 20 years, Northwestern Oklahoma State University again will be offering courses leading to a minor in art. Thanks to two generous donations from the Wisdom Family Foundation to create endowed chairs in art, requirements for an art minor have been established, a fulltime instructor has been hired, and four classes have been added to the fall 2011 schedule.
The commitment on the part of the Wisdom Family Foundation to begin an art program at Northwestern Oklahoma State University has been made clear with the gift of $250,000 to create a second endowed faculty chair in art.
This current gift matches an initial $250,000 pledge in August of 2008 to establish the Grace V. Wisdom Endowed Chair in Visual Arts.
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The RCMP issued a statement Thursday saying information about the Dana Bradley murder investigation reported in a recent Telegram series is not supported by the facts of the case.
In the series, which began March 15, a man told The Telegram he had witnessed the murder of Dana Bradley as a boy, that he was in the back seat of the car that picked her up on Dec. 14, 1981.
The man — identified as "Robert" in The Telegram, to protect his identity — described the murder and where the body was placed before it was found four days later.
The RCMP says the information provided by the man has been investigated thoroughly by police, as well as independently investigated by credible sources with full access to police evidence.
"The information provided simply did not match the physical evidence," the release states.
Robert said the RCMP will never find new evidence if it doesn't look for it.
"My parents owned a two-door Dodge Dart and a four-door Plymouth Valiant. It appears both those cars are buried beneath about a foot of gravel," Robert said Thursday.
"You could almost uncover them with a shovel. Why don't they dig up the cars and at least check them?"
The RCMP said, as with all serious investigations, it is unable to discuss specifics of the Dana Bradley murder investigation as it does not want to jeopardize the integrity of the investigation.
The RCMP said it has been vigilant in collecting and protecting key evidence relating directly to Dana's death, and that while there is considerable medical, physical, witness-based and circumstantial evidence, it cannot be shared with the public or specific witnesses who come forward with information.
"The known facts surrounding the murder of Dana Bradley provide investigators with the ability to assess new information as it arises. Through critical analysis of information, and comparison against the known evidence and facts, investigators are able to determine the validity of the information," the police statement said.
Robert said his memories are from the viewpoint of being six years old. The type of things the RCMP may know about the case would not necessarily be what a child would observe, he said.
"Even though I was a child, I'm confident I know more about what happened to Dana than they do," Robert said. "I wonder how they would have interviewed me in 1981 had the opportunity been there?"
The RCMP said over 32 years, investigators have worked with many witnesses and partners, and continue to make every effort to solve the murder.
The RCMP assured the public that when information is brought forward, it is thoroughly investigated and compared against the known facts of the case.
Robert said his information is not the only instance where he believes the RCMP didn't look deep enough. He also complained to the RCMP that the person he says killed Dana Bradley had sexually abused him in the years around the murder.
"Did the Major Crime Unit direct the local detachment to stop investigating my complaint? Because I know for a fact it wasn't investigated thoroughly," Robert said.
His father agrees.
The man Robert describes had been a close friend of his parents' in the early 1980s and spent a lot of time at their home. In the 1990s, the man was convicted of sexually abusing children and served time in prison.
Robert's father said though the police say they exhausted all avenues related to the sexual abuse complaint, no RCMP officers ever questioned him or his wife about the possibility the sexual assaults could have occurred.
"You would think we'd be among the first to be approached to find out how often he was at our home, if our children were at his house, if we left our children in his care, and how close he was to our children," he said.
Robert's father said there are photographs of the man with his children up in his arms.
"There was all kinds of opportunity for the abuse to take place," he said.
"There were sleepovers. We can both remember me dropping (Robert) off at his house."
He said once when his wife was in hospital, the man helped care for Robert and his siblings while he was visiting his wife.
"He was a pedophile, but that was unknown to us at the time, and we were giving him our youngsters," he said, shaking his head.
Anyone with information on the Dana Bradley murder is urged to contact the RCMP at 709-772-5400, anonymously through Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477, or contact any police detachment.


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findings from a major study known as the Multisite Adult Drug Court Evaluation show that drug courts do reduce offender recidivism;
several factors having to do mostly with treatment and the judge's role need to be present for this result. [1]
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Not to brag or anything, but I am a total expert on bringing lunch to work. An entry-level salary in publishing and an interest in nutrition motivated me to get into the habit of brown bagging it a few years ago.
In the beginning, there was a lot of was trial and error (think soggy lettuce, disastrous salad dressing leaks, etc.) but I pushed on to become a queen of Tupperware-toting.
This skill has proved useful in more fun areas of life too – like picnicking and long-distance travel.
Grain-based salads are great to have in your byo meal arsenal. Filling, vegetable-ful, and easy to pack and assemble – they check all the boxes. They keep well for a couple of days in the fridge and go well over a big bed of greens, if you're looking to bulk up your bowl.
This recipe roasts sugar snap peas with shallots prior to adding them to the salad. The sugar snaps caramelize making their naturally sweet flavor more complex. White beans, roasted red peppers, toasted almonds and nutty quinoa come together to balance out the sweetness of the sugar snaps and shallot.
Roasted Sugar Snap Pea Quinoa Salad
(Makes 2 serves)
– 1 cup quinoa, cooked
– 1 1/2-2 cups sugar snap peas
– 1 large shallot, thinly sliced
– 1/2 cup cooked white beans, rinsed
– 1/4 cup roasted red peppers/capsicum
– 1 tablespoon olive oil, more to taste
– salt & pepper
– pinch of red pepper flakes
– toasted almond slices
To cook quinoa: Place 1/2 cup rinsed dry quinoa in 1 cup of water in a medium saucepan, bring to a boil. Reduce to a simmer and cook covered until the liquid is adsorbed (about 10 minutes.) There should be little white tails that come out as each grain puffs. These usually indicate that the quinoa is done.
Roast your sugar snap peas (based on a recipe from Eating Well): Toss sugar snap peas and sliced shallot with 1 tablespoon olive oil, salt & pepper and chili flakes together in a bowl. Spread mixture out on a baking tray and place in a 200 C/400 F oven for approximately 12-15 minutes or until golden. Let cool.
To toast almonds: Scatter in a dry pan and cook over a medium-low heat until they become golden and fragrant (about 5 minutes.)
Combine all ingredients in a large bowl and mix gently to combine. Add more olive oil and salt and pepper, to taste. Place in an air tight container in the fridge for up to 2 days.
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Every college I've attended, from community colleges to state universities, have for a good many years been dominated by mac users. It's nigh impossible to walk into a classroom and not see at least half the laptops in the room sporting that glowing apple. I'm thinking it's a safe assumption that Apple would have dominated the college laptop buying crowd this year regardless of being offered a free iPod or a lousy giftcard.
Seems good to me. Wish I was a student. Heck a $100. I could use that on pages and numbers and keynote apps.
Yes, universities are dominated by Macs. At my school, 50% or more of the computers in any given class are MacBooks
If you're at the bottom of a darkened auditorium classroom, its a sight to behold.
In any case, I opted for the Best Buy match and got a $100 BB gift card instead
Obviously most of them were gonna buy music cause the mac app store sucks but if they were really smart they would buy ios games from the itunes app store from gameloft and other wonderful games the itunes app store definately had an increase in the number of downloaded apps its pretty sad that apple thought the giftcard would make ppl buy mac app store apps but instead ppl bought muskc and maybe some bought apps from the itunes store
nuff' said
I hope so because at the point my PC will become less and less needed in my everyday life.
Yea the iPod touch is definitely better. Resale value is higher than $100
Apple's promotion sucks 100%. I price matched microcells $999 price at best buy so that is student discount pluss an extra $100 off instead of a gift card. (I priced matched them cuz i got couple gift cards)... would have been better for a free ipod touch but oh well.


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A man accused of ambushing and fatally shooting a Draper police officer on Labor Day weekend has been charged with aggravated murder.
If convicted as charged in the shooting death of Draper Police Sgt. Derek Johnson, Timothy Troy Walker, 34, could face the death penalty because of the victim's status as a law enforcement officer.
The Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office announced Wednesday that it filed one first-degree felony count of aggravated murder against Walker who had methamphetamine in his system at the time of the shooting, according to charges.
District Attorney Sim Gill said the death penalty is "on the table" in the case, but his office would wait until after the preliminary hearing and within 60 days of Walker's arraignment to make a final decision.
"[Johnson] wanted to do nothing but help out," Gill said. "As he stops to assist a car in distress, this tragedy unfolds."
Walker was booked into the Salt Lake County jail Wednesday afternoon after being released from the hospital, where he was being treated for a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Walker, who has no permanent address, also was charged with one count of attempted homicide for allegedly trying to kill his girlfriend Traci Vaillancourt, 34, who also has no permanent address, during the same Sept. 1 shooting.
In addition, Walker was charged with three counts of discharge of a firearm and one count of possession of a weapon by a restricted person, all third-degree felonies.
Vaillancourt also was charged Wednesday in 3rd District Court with two counts second-degree felony counts of obstructing justice for allegedly lying to investigators about the incident.
According to charging documents, Johnson, 32, was in a marked Draper City police vehicle at about 6 a.m. when he stopped at 13200 South Fort Street and noticed Walker standing outside his stopped Volvo.
Authorities said Walker had stopped because he ran out of gas and the passenger-side front tire had gone flat because he had driven over a curb, a stop sign, a large rock and then through at fence at 13800 S. 933 East, court records show. He then continued driving a few blocks away to the area of 13200 South, police said.
When Johnson pulled up near the Volvo to see if he could help, Walker allegedly shot Johnson through the open front passenger side window of Johnson's police vehicle.
Johnson was struck in the chest by the bullet and tried to drive away northbound. Walker, who was allegedly under the influence of methamphetamine at the time, fired at least three more shots, which struck Johnson's marked vehicle, court documents state.
Johnson used his police radio to call "shots fired," but then lost control of his vehicle and crashed into a wooded area about two blocks north of where he was shot.
The medical examiner later determined Johnson died from a gunshot wound to the chest.
Gill said Johnson was wearing a bulletproof vest, but the bullet struck in an area the vest did not cover.
During the episode, Walker turned the gun on Vaillancourt, striking her in the upper-right back, court records show.
After shooting Johnson, Walker then shot himself.
Walker was hospitalized for his injuries. Police, who have previously said they expected Walker to survive his injuries, declined on Wednesday to comment on his current condition.
Court records indicate a $2 million cash-only warrant was issued Wednesday for his arrest.
Vaillancourt was released from a hospital late Saturday and booked into the Salt Lake County jail.
After Vaillancourt was treated for her injury, police said they tried to question her on Sept. 1, 4, and 7. But on Sept. 4, she initially denied seeing Johnson and said she did not see who was shooting or know who shot her.
During a Sept. 7 interview, police said Vaillancourt told police how she was positioned at the time of the shooting, but the location of her wound, the directionality of the wound and the lack of physical evidence, did not support her statement, court records alleged.
Police said on Sept. 7, Vaillancourt admitted that she did see a marked police vehicle pull up next to the Volvo and heard several shots fired in quick succession, one of which hit her.
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CERRITOS - Electric and hybrid car owners would have an opportunity to plug in their vehicles at city charging stations by early October if the City Council approves a pilot program.
The City Council is scheduled to vote on the plan at Thursday's meeting.
The program includes installing two charging stations on the top level of the Cerritos Civic Center parking structure. The stations would be owned by ECOtality and leased to the city.
Users would pay about $1.50 an hour, and a vehicle would be charged in four to eight hours. Half of the revenue would go to ECOtality and the other half would go to the city, according to a staff report.
The only out-of-pocket cost to the city would be $5,000 for an electrician to install a conduit from the nearest power source, the staff report said.
City Manager Art Gallucci, Public Works Director Hal Arbogast, Assistant City Engineer Kanna Vancheswaran and Assistant Civil Engineer Fredy Bonilla are recommending approval of the program.
If the plan is approved, the charging stations would be operational by early October, said Cerritos spokeswoman Annie Hylton.
Cerritos Nissan and Penske Chevrolet at the Cerritos Auto Square have charging stations, but only for customers.
The city has three options once the pilot program ends in December 2013: continue the partnership with ECOtality and split the parking fee revenue; take ownership and maintenance responsibility of the stations and set policy on parking fees, time limits, etc.; or request ECOtality remove the charging stations and return the parking stalls to general public use, the report said.
Sex offender ban
Also on the agenda, the City Council is scheduled to vote on the second reading of an ordinance banning registered sex offenders from city parks and other facilities.
The ordinance was approved at the Aug. 9 meeting. If it is approved Thursday, it will go into effect in 30 days.
Gary Berg, the city's director of community and safety services, told the council Aug. 9 that passing the ordinance isn't going to prevent crime.
Nevertheless, the council passed the ordinance 4-1. Council members Jim Edwards, Bruce W. Barrows, Carol K. Chen and Mark E. Pulido voted in favor of the ordinance.
Councilman Joseph Cho was the dissenting vote.
The proposed ordinance would ban registered sex offenders from all city parks as well as the Civic Center, the library, the Center for the Performing Arts and the Senior Center.
Registered sex offenders have the option of asking permission from either the L.A. County Sheriff's Department or the city's director of community and safety services to enter any of these facilities, according to the proposed ordinance.
The four council members said they supported banning registered sex offenders from all public places as a means of protecting the public.
Berg said enforcement of the proposed ordinance is problematic.
In reality, deputies with the Sheriff's Department don't know the faces of all registered sex offenders and would have to wait for someone to report an incident to them before they could investigate, Berg said.
"These unenforceable laws don't make children safe," Cho said. "They are designed to make politicians look tough on crime and to make people feel good."
The council began discussing the idea last October after Orange and Los Angeles county cities passed similar measures.
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Thread: Listeria and Pregnancy
11th July 2012 07:22 AM #16
Hi ashdowney,
Please try not to worry and remember that it is very rare to get listeria plus the fact that you cooked it for that amount of time makes the risk even less likely.
If you are still worried, you could see your doctor and ask to have a blood test. If you got listeria you would experience flu-like symptoms.
I know it's easy to say and harder to do, but try not to worry. Keeping stress levels to a minimum is also important in pregnancy and from what you describe I wouldn't be concerned.
Best wishes to you in your pregnancy,
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Hi Ashdowney,
I wouldn't be concerned about it at all. Most canned products are good WAY beyond the expiration date, and companies know that their canned products may be consumed after the due date, so they put an "earlier than is true" expiration date on them (i.e. if they think it will be good for 4 years on the shelf, they may put an expiration date of 3 years on it.). On top of that, you boiled it and broiled it, and I can't imagine anything surviving after that.
I'm with LJ - best not to worry, and I'm sure there wasn't anything to be concerned with. Anytime you start to experience vomiting or diarrhea during pregnancy, and you know it's not the typical morning sickness or due to the flu, then call your doctor, but in this instance, I'd be super surprised if anything comes of this. Stores donate their expired canned goods to homeless shelters all the time, and they feed it to the homeless with no problems. You said the can had no dents and it wasn't bulging, so it was likely just fine.
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Hi all,
I'm 7 weeks pregnant and have been so concerned eating ham and everything else on the list, that today when I ate a ham sandwich I now feel so frustrated with myself.
I have had pretty bad morning sickness over the last 2 weeks, so when I think I can keep something down, I'll try eat. Unfortunately today all I could stomach was a ham and salad sandwich. I did toast it, but probably not for long enough... I have a doctors appointment tomorrow to make sure everything is ok, but that is still nearly 24 hours away.
Is this whole listeria thing more paranoia than necesary for pregnant woman? I am struggling so much with the changes to my body and not being able to eat my normal food that I am worried all this stress is doing more harm than good.
I have had flu like symptoms for several weeks now (the flu is going around) so I do not know if I would be able to notice anything different. I have also been having mild cramping since week 4 (no bleeding). Is there cause for concern having eaten a toasted ham sandwich?
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Hi DBTJ,
Ham sandwiches are just fine during pregnancy, and you shouldn't be concerned if the ham was cooked.
Eat what you can and don't worry about listeria. It is very rare.
Please post back and let us know how your appointment goes, but my thought is that you likely don't need to see the doctor if you've just got morning sickness or a touch of the flu, as long as you're able to keep some things down and you're staying well hydrated.
I didn't have my first appointment with my midwives until I was 10-12 weeks along, for all 5 of my babies, and I never thought twice about eating ham.
Hope this helps to put your mind at ease.
Warm regards,
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I have a question. I am 37 weeks pregnant. I had a yogurt on Monday that I believe gave me food poisoning. Within 2 hours of eating the yogurt, I had very watery diarrhea. Since then (it's now Friday) I have had a sore throat, runny nose, headache, and a slightly stiff neck. I am very concerned about listeria. I spoke to my OBGYN, but they did not give much credence to what I was saying. I have not had a fever at all. I have been checking my temperature regularly. Should I push for a blood test? The yogurt I consumed was not expired but I am concerned that it was not kept cold enough at the market and that is what caused it to spoil. I am very concerned. Please respond!
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Hello srstevens,
Congratulations on your pregnancy. I'm sure you're getting eager to meet your little one. You're definitely in the home stretch now!
Listeria can be found in soil, water and animal droppings and typically infection occurs when someone eats infected meat, unpasteurized milk or certain processed foods like soft cheeses (cream cheese), hot dogs and deli meats which have been contaminated after processing.
I'd have to say that Listeria is rare because our family drinks raw milk regularly and I eat raw beef daily, and we have never been infected.
My guess is that the yogurt you ate had been made from pasteurized milk so if you reacted to it, it was likely food poisoning from e-coli bacteria which is the most common form of food poisoning.
But from what you are sharing, it sounds more like you may be fighting some kind of virus, like a cold or the flu.
Sore throat, runny nose, headache and slightly stiff neck are all flu symptoms. The fact that you have not had a fever at all is another indication that you may just be fighting a cold or the flu. Anytime you are fighting a virus or bacteria your body will elevate it's temperature either slightly or much higher in order to fight off the flu.
Right now you have a lot of progesterone in your system which is keeping you from going into labour, and progesterone naturally raises body temperature. If you weren't pregnant you might notice a slight increase in temp but being that you're pregnant, your body is probably already running a little on the warm side. I've had low grade temps that I knew were truly a low grade temp when I wasn't pregnant, yet that same temp was perfectly normal for me during my last few weeks of pregnancy. I also found that if I was able to boost that temp by wrapping up in a warm blanket for awhile, that my body would fight off the infection faster.
I know it can be a bit unnerving when you're pregnant and not sure exactly what is causing symptoms of illness. If you feel that a blood test would put your mind at ease you could certainly ask for one. The fact that you already contacted your doctor's office and they didn't seem concerned is an indication that your body will probably fight this off on it's own and that it's nothing to be concerned about - that coupled with the fact that you didn't really eat anything that would cause suspicion (if you had a raw egg and the egg touched the shell, and the shell was contaminated with the chicken's droppings, this could introduce the listeria bacteria into your body). But again, this would be very rare, and likely you would know of a recall for any foods that had been contaminated.
I would encourage you to call your doctor again if you continue to be concerned, and in the mean time, boost your immune system by resting, drinking plenty of purified water to move the pathogen out of your body, avoid all sugar and white flour products, and add in plenty of fruits and vegetables. Make yourself a green smoothie to drink. This will help you get more dark green leafy vegetables into your diet to help you heal faster.
You can also get some colostrum and probiotics (acidophilus/bifidus, etc.) form the health store and take this. The probiotics will help with digestion and boosts the "good bacteria" while the colostrum has super immunity properties in it and can help to boost your immune system so you overcome this as quickly as possible. But do remember that no matter what you do, if you don't get enough good quality sleep or if you're stressed, that will trump all the other "good" you're doing so be sure to make rest a high priority right now.
You can also start to drink some Red Raspberry Leaf tea each day to help your uterus prepare for labour and delivery. I drank this tea with my last two pregnancies and those births were the fastest and easiest of all of them.
I would also encourage you to see a Chiropractor who can help your hips and back to be in alignment so that baby's position will be optimal during labour. The better positioned baby is, the easier and faster birth can be.
If you need ideas to help you sleep better, or if you would like to see how a green smoothie is made, post back and I'll be happy to share more helpful tips.
Warm Regards,
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thank you Kate. I actually have been having 2 cups of red raspberry leaf tea per day for the past week. I guess my concern has been because listeria causes flu like symptoms in pregnant women and that is what I have been exhibiting. I think that I will request a blood test, but I am not too optimistic about my doctor agreeing. I also read that listeria can occur with spoiled food and I do believe that the yogurt was spoiled as I did have GI symptoms 2 hours after eating it.
What do you think about evening primrose oil and using it to aid in cervical dilation?
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Hi srstevens,
I used evening primrose oil with great success during the end of my pregnancies. But what I found most helpful in aiding dilation was making love. If my body was ready to go into labour, then making love triggered contractions. If it wasn't, then making love didn't do anything for me.
An example of this was with my 5th pregnancy at the age of 40. My husband told me that he wanted me to labour on Labour Day (Labour Day is a holiday in the USA) but I didn't care. I was so ready to have that baby that I was really didn't want to wait 11 days past my due date to go into labour. So I periodically asked my husband for sex, but he refused... because he wanted me to "labour on Labour Day". Well, the day before Labour Day arrived and we made love that afternoon. At 10PM that night labour started, and my baby was born in the wee hours of the morning on Labour Day. He was able to "brag" to the guys at work that I had "laboured on Labor Day".
I believe that I may have gone into labour earlier had we made love earlier, but the semen definitely acted like a prostaglandin on the cervix, causing it to ripen, which caused contractions to start.
I have a friend who went into labour, and then her labour stopped. The midwife encouraged her and her husband to make love and rest. They did, and labour picked back up a few hours later.
Here's one of my favorite web pages with information on how to prepare for birth.
If your OB won't do a blood test you could ask your GP for one. Boosting your immune system should help with whatever it is you're fighting. Sure hope you feel better soon.
Warm Regards,
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I ate something I shouldn't...
Hi ! Sorry for my bad English.
I know this thread is a bit old, but I try, just to see.
Yesterday night, I ate pastas with a sauce (a "rosée" sauce, I don't know how you call that... there is cream and tomatoes in it). The sauce was opened for 6 days, in the refrigerator. I made it boil for at least a minute just in case and ate it with the fresh pastas.
But after I thought of it, and realised that the sauce was MUCH older than that, and that normally, even if I wasn't pregnant, I wouldn't eat it ! Something like 16 days old.
I'm at 24 weeks now, and I'm worried... if something happens to my baby because of my stupidity, I will never forgive myself.
So my questions :
- In some place they say that boiling kills Listeria, and in some places, they say that there is a kind of Listeria that can survive to high temperatures and that is responsible for half of infections... what do you think of that ?
- If I want to have a blood test just not to be stressed for months in case the infections shows after 70 days, after how much time would the test be valid ? I guess that today for example would be too early. I couldn't find any information about the time for the plasma rate to get important, I just found things about the incubation time.
I'll try to call my doctor on that, but she can be hard to join.
A big thank to anybody who has reliable informations about that stuff to share with me.
8th August 2013 05:44 AM #25
Hi Felindra,
Thank you for your post.
I know you must be concerned but please remember that listeriosis is very rare.
My understanding is that cooking the food to boiling/ steaming will kill the bacteria that cause the Listeria (for reference: food should reach a temperature of 165 degrees F).
I take it you don't have any of the symptoms of listeria as I'm sure you would have put this in your post. Most stomach symptoms of listeria occur within 48 hours of eating the contaminated food, other symptoms can take 2-6 weeks to occur. However, having no symptoms and a negative blood test will give you an extremely high level of likelihood that you have not contracted listeria. In pregnancy the listeria is generally accompanied by fever and fatigue.
The blood test will be able to show you if you have listeria even if you don't have the symptoms.
I would call your doctor to check but remember it is extremely rare, even if you consume food past its used by date. Try to stay calm as stress is not helpful in pregnancy and it is highly likely that everything will be just fine.
Do post back and let us know how you get on with your doctor.
Warm regards,
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Thank you ljmarsden for answering so fast
You are right : I have no symptoms for now. I didn't know that the symptoms were arriving in two times, I thought that for some people it was all of a sudden many weeks later.
I know that it's rare, but as there are still a few hundreds of infections each year, and as pregnant women have 20x more risk to have it, and because of how serious it can be in that case, I couldn't help it, I was worried. I still am, but I try to be realistic : I would need to be very badlucky to have it in these conditions... but after trying to have a baby like crazy for 4 years, I tend to be a bit quick on the "worry" button with this first pregnancy. I still cannot believe I did that... risking my baby not to waste food... but I was really sure it wasn't that old...
I tried to join my doctor, but at the clinic they told me she wasn't there and that they don't answer this kind of call, that if I'm worried I have to go without appointment... but I'm not sure the little risk worth to miss a working day, I'll probably just look like crazy and she might not even prescribe the test if she thinks the risks are low... Instead, I'll see a doctor from work, explain my case and ask if they can prescribe it to me, so that I can be more in peace. I just wonder when I have to do the test... but I guess that 48h after the ingestion is a good moment, so that the bacteria had the time to enter the blood. I hope they will confirm me if that is a good plan.
And I promess I try to stay calm in the meanwhile ... and I am calm now (nothing to compare with this morning), but of course I can't just quit thinking of it completely. I focus on that little boy playing soccer inside me, I guess that as long as he moves like this, there is nothing to be too afraid of.
So first step : try to have a test. 2nd step : my appointment with the nurse which is scheduled at the end of the month.
I'll let you know. In the meanwhile, I'll identify everything in my refrigerator with the date ! I don't want to live that again !
Thanks again !
A crazy and paranoiac future mom.
8th August 2013 06:46 PM #27
Hi Felindra,
You are not crazy and paranoid - just a normal mum! I can really emphasise with you - I know from my own experience that it's hard not to worry when you are pregnant. It's great that you can feel your little man kicking away inside you. I always found the movements and kicks so reassuring and special.
I think your plan of action sounds logical. Yes it should be enough time since you ate the suspect food to have a blood test.
Don't make yourself feel guilty about eating the sauce - we all make mistakes
How wonderful that you are pregnant; I'm sorry to hear it took you so long to conceive. Have you thought about your hopes for the birth? Now is a good stage in the pregnancy to think about the birth you would like as you have lots of time to prepare. Are you hoping for a birth in a hospital, birth centre or at home?
Keep us updated.
Best wishes,
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I discussed with a doctor at work yesterday. I trust her very much, she's a nice and very skilled doctor (even if not working in obstetric). After I told her the details of my story, she said that I could stop to worry right now, and that she was absolutely not worried for me in that situation.
I think I may not even take the test. I still have no symptoms, and I ate the food almost 72 hours ago. Of course, if I start to have any of the symptoms, I'll run to the clinic, but I think that the risk is very low, and I'm slowly "forgetting" my worries.
Yes, we had a hard time trying to conceive, and we tried everything, even IVF, twice, with no success... we were about to start a 3rd attempt of this when the miracle happened. And yes, the movements are incredibly reassuring, and amazing ! I'll give birth at the hospital, it's the options that makes me feel more safe (and I think that almost everybody here does so, so didn't really need to think of that question, it's normal and good to me). I didn't visit it officially for now (that is for soon), but I know someone who had her two children there, and I visited her, and this hospital is a-ma-zing... all new, and it's maternity department is reknown by many. I started to think of my hopes for the process and the event of the birth itself, and I'll discuss them in a near future with my doctor and nurse. I hope that it will all be possible... but in the end the baby might decide of many things ! One thing I'd like to try is not to have the epidural. Normally physical pain is something I can bear more than others... but again, we never know, I may ask for it like crazy, yelling at the nurse to find the anasthesist FAST, when the time comes
13th August 2013 05:53 AM #29
I'm so pleased to read your latest reply - I'm glad the doctor could reassure you.
I hope you have a happy, stress-free rest of pregnancy!
That sounds like a good plan; as you say wherever you feel comfortable and normal is the best place for you to give birth. If you want to try and give birth naturally, you could opt to have a water birth. Many hospitals have a birthing pool in at least one of their rooms (although sometimes it unfortunately depends on whether it is being used already or not). If you like to relax and unwind in a bath then this is a good sign that water can help you to relax in labour. The more relaxed a lady is in labour, the quicker and easier her labour is likely to be.
In my last labour, I used hypnobirthing techniques in order to breathe through the surges (this is hypnobirthing speak for contractions - its fascinating the effect language can have on you in labour). Calmbirth is an education birthing programme where you learn, amongst many topics, which muscles to relax during the labour to make it as comfortable as possible.
The key for me is making an informed choice - whether it is to have a waterbirth, a home birth or an epidural it should be a positive decision the woman is making herself with the support of others.
Congratulations again on your miracle pregnancy!
Best wishes,
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I'll have to think of all of this. Yesterday night we had a course on the steps of the labour and delivery, and we learned about what our hospital offers and what is not available (for example : no birth in water, but anyway I wasn't looking for it), and we will prepare a plan that the nurses check in order to do things as we wish (if possible with the circumstances !). I'm not convinced with hypnotherapies for now, but I'll read a bit more and see if I'm tempted.
A big thank for your support in this stressful moment ! I'm still the king of person who keeps preoccupied about everything, and even more in this situation of pregnancy (I'm preoccupied if he moves less one day, or for any little stupid thing if I'm not sure how normal it is), but I'm not getting panicked (OK, I was a bit in panick when I realised about the sauce, but now I'm ok ).
I may not think of getting back in November after the birth (I might have a few things in mind then !), but I really appreciate, and will remember this site for later.
Thanks again.


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The school has raised between $13,000 and $15,000 per year. With this money, the school has purchased wireless network hubs, laptops, projectors, document cameras, iPads and entire computer labs. This year, the Trek raised less than in years past with a total of around $10,000.
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Ten years ago, West Central Initiative (WCI), along with its five sister Minnesota Initiative Foundations, formed the Minnesota Early Childhood Initiative (ECI). Thanks to a generous grant from The McKnight Foundation, the MIFs helped establish 90 community and county coalitions throughout Greater Minnesota, including 10 in west central Minnesota. Together, the MIFs and the coalitions are working to ensure that every young child has the best possible start toward a healthy life of learning, achieving and succeeding.
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The ECI brings together people and organizations to form community teams that support the well-being of our youngest children. WCI assists with coalition building in 10 countywide sites throughout west central Minnesota. These coalitions seek the involvement of parents, senior citizens, educators, business and community leaders, the faith community, policy makers and all citizens interested in making their community a nurturing environment for young children and their families. Each ECI team is lead by a coordinator who facilitates the process of identifying, planning and implementing strategies specific to helping their communities become more nurturing places for young children and their families.
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There's still a lot of confusion in the Republican Party in the aftermath of the 2012 election. Part of the confusion stems from the struggle between the party establishment based in Washington and the party's base of voters all over the country. Sixty-three percent of Republican voters nationwide recognize that their leaders in Washington have lost touch with the base.
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To end the party's civil war, both sides need to change. The Republican base needs to make its message of limited government more palatable to more Americans. Bigger fixes are necessary for the party establishment. Right now, it acts as if only cosmetic changes are needed. For example, since the party had trouble with Hispanic voters, let rising star Marco Rubio deliver the GOP response to President Obama's State of the Union address. From the view of Washington Republicans, the only other thing that's needed is for the base to become more "pragmatic."
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Hey Gents,
I am having the GT tinted up on Friday. I'll post up the before after pictures soon.
Windshield - FormulaOne/Llumar Air Blue 80
Side Windows - FormulaOne Pinnacle 30%
Rear Window - 30% or 15%
I would like to go with the darker option (15%) on the back window but I am a bit nervous about night visibility out the back when in dark places like an unlit parking lot. I'll probably end up with the 30%. Any opinions?
FYI, these side and rear window percentages are all legal in my state. Technically, a clear film for the windshield is now legal in Texas, although the Air Blue 80% isn't exactly "clear," hence the name "80." That is an iffy call but that has resulted in some hassling of my installers customers but nothing that hasn't been cleared up after a little headache.
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Type of tint and why?
As I see it, there are a couple of reasons to tint vehicle windows: reduce heat and UV, or to provide more privacy. I suppose, there may be some that just like the look, too.
I'm wondering what most people do it for...I'd prefer only the reduced heat and UV (glare helps, too). I really don't need to hide my passengers (since most, all? state limit the tint on the front). Plus, I really don't want to decrease visiblility out which is critical at dusk when people may not have their lights on yet, or the vehicle .
You don't have to have a dark tint to limit the heat and UV or limit glare.
Anyway, not to throw a wrench or hijack this thread, but was curious. I've got an appointment tomorrow with a shop that, among others, sells 3M automotive tints. Their crystal ceramic line stops more UV and IR at almost clear than some of the really dark tints from others, and, they're transparant to RF so they don't affect cellphone or gps (if you're using one inside, like maybe your phone) reception, either as most of the metalic ones do. The dye based stuff is getting more stable, but it tends to change color as it ages; some, much more than others. What might start out a nice grey or silver can take on a purple hue as it ages.
I appreciate the input jadnashuanh. I hear your points and am aware of the "tech specs" for the brands. I think Llumar's FormulaOne sister company makes a good product with their Pinnacle line. The other big contender for me was SolarGard's top of the line tint. My reasoning was that it was another "good" tint and that is what the other local installer, with a good reputation, uses. I decided to go with the FormulaOne Pinnacle because heat rejection was my primary concern and the manufacturer rating (according to themselves) was blocked the greatest amount of heat.
My post was really about how dark to go and what thoughts were on visibility. For what it's worth, my car is grey with a black interior, which tends to make tint look darker. It also tends to burn the hell out of you when you sit on it too though! The back of my legs and my hands are burning just thinking about it!
I'm waiting for them to call that my car's done...had the 3M crystalline material installed. The dye based stuff is much more stable than it used to be, but the crystalline stuff doesn't use dyes. The 3m stuff has something like 200 layers of material on it. Not that many certified installers around...hoping it turns out great. NYS law (I don't live there, but am actually here now) has anything greater than a 70% as illegal and you'll get stopped and hasseled. I should be okay with what I have and will be giving it a workout in the next week as I have to drive about 1500 miles and it's supposed to be pretty warm along the way.
In NJ not legal to tint front sides or windshield. For what it's worth, I did 20% metallic tint on rear sides and hatch. Ive already made 2 long trips with all night driving and no issues with interfence or reduced visibility during night driving. My GT is Black Sapphire/Cinnamon Brown.
The shop did a great job and the 20% looks perfect for me. I have the rear sunshades and when down combined with the tint it completely blocks out the sun. But I am a little bit disappointed by the amount of heat/sun that is still getting through the rear hatch. Heat reduction not privacy is my main concern as I carry my dog around back there and the hatch window generates a ton of heat.
I should of researched a bit more on brands, ceramic vs metallic, etc. to make a more informed decision as reduced sun/heat penetration was my main goal. But overall it is a major improvement.
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I've only had mine a few days, but drove about 500-miles in 98-degree weather - the reduction in heat coming in was significant. It has proven to be considerably cooler after sitting in that hot sun, so as of now, I'm pleased. The 3M stuff costs about 40% more than their non-ceramic line (either the dye-based or metalic - they make all three). It also blocks essentially all UV-A and UV-B (the glass does a good job of that, but in combination with this film, it's about as close to 100% you'll get with a transparant material). It's the only one certified by the American Cancer Society. The thing I especially like is that it does this while looking almost like stock (no tint). The stuff is available with a lower visible light transmission, but the IR load doesn't change much.
Has anyone considered - or looked into tinting the moonroof? All that glass must be generating significant amounts of heat.
My Imperial Blue GT is the first car I have owned in a dark color - and I want to try to reduce the heat generated inside the car as it sits parked in the sun.
Since I cannot do anything about the color, I figure tint is the only action I can take.....
The car went straight into Austin BMW for service after that but I'll have pictures on Monday.
Where in Austin did you have the tint done?
And if you don't mind sharing, what was the cost?
Solar Adaptive Transition Film?
Anyone heard of this new transition tint? There is a local shop in Houston that has it and they say it goes from 35% in the daylight and lightens by 10% to 45% at night. Seems like a neat idea but its pricey - about 30% more than ceramic.
"...hovering like a fly waiting for a windshield on the freeway..." p.g.
Both vehicles used Formula One Pinnacle all around and Formula One Air Blue 80 on the windshields.
I am not crazy about the cut for stickers on the windshields. It is a little crooked. I will go back next week and see if they can cut a little more out to make it a straight line. Everything else seems ok but I am still waiting for the bubbles and tiny to dry completely before cleaning and looking for imperfections.
Sorry! I dropped the ball on photos. I'll take some today.
The Llumar Air 80 has been great. My only issue is that the registration and inspection sticker cutout is obvious. Though as others have said, you forget it is there after 20 minutes or so (unless you look at it of course). Just make sure they cut the cutout straight. It is straight on the GT but they have a little wave in the cutout on my truck. It bothers me but not enough to take it back in.
No issues with transparency in the daytime or night. We can see fine and and there is no noticeable wave or fuzziness that I have picked up on. Of course, the rainbow issue is there with polarized glasses but that is a trade-off we knowingly made.
Overall, the car is still hot as hell after baking the black interior in the Texas sun but it is a lot more bearable that it was. I can actually get in it to start the AC whereas before I would open a couple doors for 20 seconds first.
On a side note, does anyone else find that the AC to takes an abnormally long time to start blowing cool air? My truck is blowing cool air in about 3-4 seconds. The GT seems to take at least 10 seconds or more.
After some time with the tint, how are you liking the Formula One Pinnacle? Also, what percentage did you go and are you able to post pics?
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First things first: No, sushi does not have to mean "raw fish" and, yes, your kids (and you and your husband) will love it. Sushi actually means "sticky rice" and it has always fostered inventiveness. You can use chicken or beef, or even a plain, sliced omelet. The number of sushi fillings is virtually endless, making sushi a great activity for a whole party of budding sushi senseis, or masters.
Sushi scores very high on the "fun" scale, as making sushi rolls is practically like being ordered to play with your food. And then there's the dipping--eating sushi rolls with your hands is every bit as traditional and acceptable as using chopsticks, so kids will go to town grabbing and dipping the little bundles into soy sauce.
You can also make sweet Sushi like Nutella Maki or strawbery californioa roll...
You can involve your kids with the preparation in lots of ways--cooking the rice, slicing the vegetables, maybe helping to whip up a plain omelet--but assembling the rolls is the main event. Itadakimasu! (Bon Appetit!)
Sometimes called maki or nori rolls, these bite-size packets are easy to master and even use a little low technology--small bamboo mats called makisu--that kids will enjoy. The mats, like other necessary items here, can be found at any Asian market, or even a well-stocked supermarket that caters to a diverse clientele. Whole sushi kits can be purchased on the Web, but generally these kits do not include fillings such as fish or vegetables.
Older kids can help slice, if you are comfortable letting them handle sharp knives. For the sake of simplicity, this recipe only contains carrots and asparagus. But, realistically, you probably will want a greater variety of sliced vegetables on hand. To start, here's how to do carrots and asparagus: Carrots are tricky because they are so hard.
You might want to use mini-carrots, which are a little softer, or start with pre-cut carrot sticks and, depending on their thickness, slice them three or four more times, until they're almost thin enough to be translucent. They don't need to be long enough to run the full length of the roll.
Asparagus are good because they don't need any real slicing, just one cut to make sure they are the same length (not width, length!) as the nori sheet. Make sure you cut off the bottom, not the tip, as that is the prized home of all the asparagus' richest flavors. The one thing asparagus does need, however, is a brief steaming. You can do this in a steamer over the stove or in a covered dish with a little water in the microwave on high. In either case, it should take about 2 minutes, depending on the thickness of the asparagus.
Getting the rice absolutely perfect will take a little practice, but getting it perfectly adequate is not difficult. The easiest way is to use a rice cooker, but for those of us without this handy device, here's what to do: Have your child take the drained rice and put it in a saucepan with two cups water.
Bring to a boil, and cover and lower the heat as low as possible to avoid burning. Simmer for 15 minutes without lifting the lid to check. Remove rice from heat and let stand for 15 minutes to steam. To avoid water collecting on the inside of the lid and dripping back into the rice, many people lay a dish towel between the lid and the pot to absorb the water while it steams.
Many Japanese have a special wooden tub, called a hangiri, just for the next process, but a wide-bottom bowl or pan, or a casserole dish can be used. With a wooden spoon or rubber spatula, transfer rice to your pan of choice and spread out to cool. Sprinkle with sushi vinegar and use spoon to gently fold the vinegar into the rice.
After mixing, fan the rice using a piece of cardboard or even a magazine--unless you happen to have an uchiwa, the silk fan that some Japanese use.
TIP: The rice should be shiny and sticky, and each grain should be distinct. Transfer it back to the pot or to another bowl and cover to keep it moist and lukewarm.
Arrange materials on and around a large cutting board, including water, wasabi, nori, vegetables and rice. Place a sheet of nori on the bamboo mat so that the length is parallel to the bamboo, wet your hands, and take about cup of rice (you will quickly see why it is called "sticky rice" and why you need to keep your hands wet). As you place the rice onto the nori sheet, fashion it into a long column that makes a long strip right across the middle of the sheet. Gently press it toward the edges, so the whole sheet is covered with a thin blanket of rice, maybe just a grain or two thick.
Keep your fingers wet if necessary, but try to use as little water as possible to avoid dampening the rice. TIP: Many people encase their bamboo mats in plastic wrap. This makes it both easier to work with and easier to clean.
If you're using wasabi, take a tiny dab of it on your finger and make an almost transparent green strip across the rice. Across the middle of the sheet, lay out the asparagus spear and enough carrot slivers to run the length of the roll. To roll, gently take edge of mat in both hands, leaving it on the board or counter surface. Roll mat and sheet together about one third of the way. Gently apply pressure, and try to keep the roll rounded rather than flat.
Unroll slightly and repeat twice more, also at one-third intervals. By the end, the mat should have a substantial lip overlaying the roll, and that lip can be tucked under the roll so that the almost-finished product is completely wrapped in bamboo. Now you can fine tune the roll with pressure to make sure it is perfectly rounded. Remove mat and use your sharpest knife to cut the rolls into six or eight pieces, depending on how thick you want them. (Probably NOT a step for the kids).
To make sure the pieces are all even, first cut roll in half, and then cut each half evenly into two or three more pieces.
Repeat with remaining sheets, rice and fillings until finished. Arrange on plate or platter, and serve with shallow bowls of light soy sauce. The rolls are traditionally served with gari, or pickled ginger (available in the same stores), which people eat in between bites to "cleanse" the palate, and with wasabi, which can be dabbed onto the rolls to add a little spice.
Using the basic roll instructions, substitute in any of the following. But be forewarned: the small sushi rolls work best with only two fillings, three if you include the scallions. Here are some suggestions:
If you're willing to let your kids handle these tasks, they can get to know a wide variety of produce and the special challenges and properties that each one presents.
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Great job on your brand. what has been the best thing to happen since the opening of your retail location/locations for the bg brand?
Hey there, quick question.
I have this screen-printing class and I figured I might as well put my own drawings/designs on them and maybe even sell. So my question to you is: Would it be better to have, say 2 design and 20 prints each or 4 designs and 10 prints each?
I mean would it be better to have variety or quantity?
Hey BEnny!
Congrats on all your success of the past year and the year to come. I was wondering thought if you would ever expand and make another store say in New York for example while staying independant. Not because I live in New York but because since its the complete Opposite of the SF store. Thanks again Benny
Hey BEnny!
Congrats on all your success of the past year and the year to come. I was wondering thought if you would ever expand and make another store say in New York for example while staying independant. Not because I live in New York but because since its the complete Opposite of the SF store. Thanks again Benny
I'm open to it. Right now I like being able to connect with the customers that come into our SF shop. I am here most of the time because my design studio is in the same building. A NY store would be fresh thou.
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Benny really love the brand, and all your work.
Was wondering what wholesale brand do you use for your tees?
Thanks Benny!
I am a huge fan, and you are my inspiration as I go through University over here in the U.K,
I just want to ask a few questions to help me learn and add to a project I am doing on your brand, hopefully you can answer!
For your freelance design work, how do you gain clients, do you pick them or do they come to you?
Thanks, Daniel.
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Do you think the price of the deck coat would ever decrease? I really love it and I'm sure its worth the money but I am a college student haha
Awesome, thanks for the input Benny!
I am going to quote you in my case study if you don't mind. I have been trying to get in touch for a while until I found out this easy way to do so. I just want to ask a couple more questions if that is possible.
The first is regarding your inspiration to do what you do creatively? and also do you have a set working method when working on a new project or is it different everytime?
Thanks again! I am heading for some important deadlines lately so your help is giving me the extra drive I need.
Keep things growin Benny. Love everything about your brand. Best of luck in the future to you and your brand!. Im also in the process of releasing my first line of stuff this year! Its got a creative new idea id love to share my idea with you over PM just for your input. Shoot me a PM if you wouldnt mind sheding some light.
thanks and hope 2012 is BG's year!
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Originally posted by Inactive Userhey, this is manny from Natural Talent a new clothing brand starting in Richmond, Va
i was just wondering when did you feel it was the right time to expand into stores and is it better to pay more for locally produced clothes or pay less for something out the area
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My name is Gregg and from Denver, Colorado. I am avid follower of your design work and I am a graphic designer & skateboarder myself. I had the chance to meet you at the launch of your fall line in 2010 and I continue to be very impressed by the design & product you put out. You take great care in what you give to your customers & it shows. While there, you had told me to email you with any questions I had, but hadn't gotten any replies. I know you are a busy guy, so when I saw this, I thought this would probably be the best way to get a reply.
I am currently working on designing a brand of my own and really want to talk to you about how you started. I know you always say to start small and strong with quality rather than quantity, but for your the initial launch of your line, how many pieces did you release?
I am also in the starting stages of design and development and working on looking for vendors. I know you have had a lot of help having worked with Huf, but how did you go about looking for vendors? Stay local or look for best price & quality?


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Why take shortcuts? Well aside from the obvious hot busy mess we call life, sometimes the transition from tomato to sauce isn't as simple as one would imagine.
Whatever the reason, you can always raid your pantry for some trusty canned tomatoes and save spaghetti night from going extinct. Pre-made sauces can be expensive, sketchy, or laced with sugar, so unless you are one of the lucky people who have cash money to burn and infinite Whole Foods/Trader Joes access [jealous!], you might want to whip up a super simple batch of your own sauce. My reason? A certain marine decided it would be a great idea to impluse buy an obscene amount of canned tomatoes right before our impending move, and a certain blogger totally ate all the garden tomatoes making salsa and vegan BLTs. On repeat =)
Crock-pot Fire Roasted Marinara Sauce
Healthy Pantry Shortcuts: Crock-pot Fire Roasted Marinara Sauce
Yield 5 cups of sauce
- 28oz can of diced or crushed tomatoes
- 14.5 oz can of fire roasted tomatoes
- approx 4 oz of tomato paste (controls the thickness)
- 1/2 tsp garlic powder
- 1/4 tsp salt
- 1 tsp dried oregano
- 1 tsp dried basil
- 1-2 tsp dried parsley
- 3 bay leaves
- 1/2 tsp cayenne pepper
- freshly ground black pepper, to taste.
- To get a rockin' consistency for the sauce, quickly add both cans to your blender or food processor and blend for just a few seconds, until tomatoes look more crushed than diced.
- Pour tomatoes into your slow cooker, season, and walk away!
- Set crockpot to low if you'll be leaving the house [6-8 hours] and high [4 hours] if you'll be around the house.
- No crock pot? No problem! Simply add to a sauce pot and cook at low to medium-low on the stove-top. Super easy! =)
So… How was it? P and I may or may not have eaten this with a spoon at some point. =) The cayenne definitely gave this marinara a kick and, having never tried a spicy spaghetti sauce before, I can honestly say i'm obsessed with it! If you're sensitive to cayenne, feel free to omit it entirely, but if you don't mind a little heat, by all means add it in! It absolutely rocked! I kept 1/2 of the sauce in the fridge to put on, well, everything! and froze the remainder for later use. And by later, I mean 2 days from now. I'm totally making either zucchini lasagna or stuffed shells with it this week. Deeelish!
For all you canned goods haters, this sauce would continue to be rock-your-face-off good with the addition of fresh tomatoes and herbs. And you can bet your butt i'll be making a garden fresh version as soon as I have enough tomatoes… Though sometimes it's nice to whip up a super inexpensive sauce with nothing more than a few pantry staples and some spice rack favorites, ya know? I'll for sure be making this sauce year round, especially in the dead of winter!


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