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I am giving ceramics classes in a summer camp for kids ages 5-13. I mostly do simple projects with them as I only see each group once a week for 45 minutes. My problem is that even simple projects tend to be complicated for some of the kids, and no matter how clearly I give (and repeat) directions -"remember to score and slip"," make sure the walls aren't too thin or they will break", etc. - there will be some kids who forget or don't get it. At the end of the day I find myself with more then 100 little projects, many of which will definitely break in the kiln (or before) unless I "fix" them. Now I know in an ideal world, it would be a good learning experience for kids to see that if they don't follow directions they will not be successful, but summer camp isn't an ideal world. It's all about kids' parents paying a fortune to keep their kids busy and happy. If I don't fix them the majority of the kids will go home with nothing- and be unhappy. Big no- no in the camping world.But if I fix them I am literally spending hours fixing- and sometimes redoing projects. This is crazy! I was wondering if anyone out there has had this problem and has come up with some viable solution.
fixing kids' projects
Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:22 PM
Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:38 PM
Aside from taking time to fix what is fixable . . . I don't know of any other solutions. Over the past couple years, I was a visiting potter and did a clay mask project for classes of 6th grade boys at a nearby school. Some followed directions well; others did not. At the end of the class periods, I would go back over each project and fix what is fixable. I sometimes spent the whole following class period doing touch up work. At that age, fixing may encourage a youngster to pursue clay; success (even if it needed a helping hand) breeds interest and curiosity to try it again.
For good ideas on simple projects, check out John Posts website . . . he is an elementary art teacher who teaches ceramics to youngsters. http://www.johnpost.us/
I went to Mr. Posts web-site in the summer when I was holding some small kids classes. It is excellent. He understands how kids think in relation to what they are doing. He has some good advice about the fixing issue. He said once they learn to ensure good adhesion or they get something out of the kiln that doesn't hold they learn quickly and take the time to ensure it is secure. He has some fun little jingles he used about slipping and scoring. Great site.
Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:18 PM
Hello morah,
I think your situation is not so very simple, having children from 5-13 years, only 45 minutes a day and around 20 children at once! My great respect to you!
I´ve experience with classes of 18 children, who not really wanted to do clay projects but had to attend them because of the schools afternoon schedule.
It was really a horrible situation for me, (2010) teaching simple projects nearly prohibited by those children who tend to use clay, paper and water to create throwable little bombs.. ;-)
I claimed at the school to change their system to only maximum 10 kids (13-14years) (1,5 hours) and to give the children a possibility to choose the clay work freely.
Now the situation is much better and I can really give children a chance to learn something and get projects done.
But simple projects are not possible for all children, some tend to destroy their work while doing it (especially boys) and so they have to start again from zero or let it be and do something really simple like a little snake or something else.
I keep projects simple so they have the possibility to learn by doing, plate technics, stamping/rollng on structure etc. some mold technics.
But if they don't listen and don't follow intructions, hey, it's not me who have to do the work again!
Poking in holes in some too thick projects from the bottom or through the eyes is one possibility to help keeping things not blown up in the kiln.
It is rather easy to do this "fixing" during the lessons or after the lesson. Explaining it during the lesson helps to give children a chance to learn and avoid mistakes.
I stress from the first lesson, that they shouldn't work in air bubbles (e.g. by destroying a project, putting it again in a poorly slapped pack and rolling out again).
I give some too massive things back to them after drying without kiln firing (not possible) to get it home if they wanted.
At least, my aim is that by trying easy clay concepts, they get things to bring them home. But I have once a week, half a schoolyear as time for this.
In a summer camp, of course you have different conditions. Making medaillons to get home is a brilliant idea, I think. snakes are always great for boys. And fishes are really a good thing ,easy to do.
Maybe think about acrylic decoration instead of glaze. its fast and children love it (what you see is what you get) . smaller children may do it with water colors.
If they are modelled massive and not bigger than 10-12 cm, its a good idea to open the mouth and poke in a nice hole (together with the child, not after the class). It normally won't blow up.
Nice snails are also easily done projects, as well as mushrooms done from a ball without "scoring"..
This picture is from a birthday party, 10 years old. I did first snails (to coils, one to get the house, the other will be the snails body, just a little "scoring and smoothing" to get them together. Decoration was fun for the kids. ) Poke in one hole from the bottom.
then as second project (1,5 hours) they tried plate technics, and other easy things.
Here another party with children 12/13 years old.
Thanks Gabi- I really love the pics. I think that all that extra time you have (1.5 hours) as opposed to my 45 min. makes a big difference. My kid's projects never look quite that smooth, because there just isn't enough time. I think the kids would love the snails. I'm assuming you showed them how to make them the way you would make a coil pot (scoring and slipping as they wind) and then attach the coil for the body on the bottom.
Great idea!
Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:55 PM
I definitely hear what you are saying about not fixing children's projects to make them look better. I have no problem letting things go into the kiln that have uneven sides, or misplaced limbs, or even that are completely unidentifiable. If this is the children's work, if this is their vision, and this is what they have created, of course this is what the completed project should look like. What I am referring to is fixing children's projects so that the children will have something whole to take home instead of a handful of shards. I am talking about the projects that are so poorly attached that they break apart as soon as they dry, or the ones that are so thin that they crack into pieces, or the ones that are not hollow and have no air holes so not only will they explode, but they will also ruin any other projects in the kiln. What do you do in situations like that if have 20 or more children in the room at once, and it is physically impossible to catch all of these mistakes while the children are present? Would you still not fix them?
I never fix children's work. I spend the time to teach them the process, give them the terminology, I walk around the room and see who is getting it and help those who are not.
But never, will I ever, do it for them; it defeats the purpose of learning how to do it. If they want their work to look better it is up to them to make better.
I did a five day 2hr summer camp thing for a local college while working for the district. We did 5 projects completed and glazed in 4 days-potters wheel experience 5th day, and discussion of work fresh from the kiln. During this time I did slab candle houses, slump mold platters, coil bottles, pinch pot bowls, poison goblets(standing slab forms) and some other projects over the years. Each was completed in nearly one day, each finished well before going into drying on the downdraft table-my secret weapon. Class sizes were usually 15. I had some early problems with joins, but after changing to magic water most of those disappeared. I only would repair a student project if it was obvious it would not survive as was. Most of the time I never had to repair as I would have caught the problem in class and made certain it was taken care of even if I had to help. Working with younger kids is great, they are not so sophisticated that enthusiasm is uncool! You miss that sort of enthusiasm in HS, but get more understanding and patience from them in return.
Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:09 AM
But I can say that, for me, the fixing of a student's project, should be dependent on what led to the damage? If the project broke, or fell apart because of their own neglect or lack of proper technique, process, then I put the burden of the repair on them. If the project is damaged, due to the actions of another, i.e. someone bumped it, moved it improperly, etc. then I'm much more inclined to help them.
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Immigration officers union warns against Senate immigration bill
The president of the union representing 12,000 U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services adjudications officers and staff has added his name to a letter of law enforcement officials detailing their concerns about the Senate's bipartisan "Gang of Eight" immigration bill.
In a statement to be released Monday, obtained by The Daily Caller, Kenneth Palinkas, president of the National Citizenship and Immigration Services Council, offers his AFL-CIO affiliated union's concerns with the current immigration system and contends that the Senate bill does not address those concerns. He further points out that, like the Immigration and Custom Enforcement employees union, the USCIS Council was not consulted in the bill's drafting and urges lawmakers to oppose the bill.
"We at USCIS are honored to stand with immigration officers and law enforcement officials across the nation," says Palinkas in the statement.
"Dedicated USCIS adjudications officers and staff perform the indispensable work of reviewing millions of applications every single year for those seeking to receive visas, become citizens and permanent residents, or to otherwise adjust their immigration status. The mission of our federal employees is critical to identifying threats and providing for public safety and national security. We are the very backbone of our nation's immigration system and will be at the center of implementing any immigration reform."

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CPS Energy Grilled Over Rate Hike
CPS Energy's Doyle Beneby was on the hot seat for two hours before City Council today, answering questions on the full range of the utility's operations, from the controversial executive bonuses to the utility's success in branching out into alternative fuels, 1200 WOAI news reports.
Beneby is lobbying council to approve a 4.75% rate increase.
Beneby told council members that he plans additional adjustments to the bonus program.
"The 25% reduction in our bonus program, our incentive program, will be redirected to long term assistance," he said.
Beneby said the bonus program was actually a big chunk of the pay of upper level CPS Energy employees, as an attempt to make them more accountable for the decisions that they make.
Beneby was also grilled about problems with CPS Energy's customer service operations over the summer.
"That one we own, I own, that was completely self inflicted," he said. "It was nothing extraneous, I think we underestimated the unintended consequences."
Beneby also said the new EPA rules which severely restrict pollution from new coal fired power plants will not have an impact on CPS Energy's operations.
"For us, it should be no impact, the only impact would be if, at some point, the EPA applies that rule to existing coal plants," he said.
Beneby also said the utiltiy is working to provide better community outreach in Spanish, and is working to expand its footprint of alternative fuels.
Council will vote on the rate increase next month.


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What if i have two items with identical names, one is on Codecanyon and second on Activeden? Then i click on any of those two items im referred to http://analytics.envato.com/viewtraffic.aspx?item=skinnable-rating-system-admin-area as a result i cant see stats for one of the item due to same filename "viewtraffic.aspx?item=item-name". How to see stats for the second item? THX:)
Yeah, I've had the same problem quite while ago. You need to ask support for a name change of your item, I think there's no other way


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Rightfax SR140
Does anyone know where I can get full documentation of how to implement the SR140 on a cisco network? I have looked all over the place and cannot find any documentation.
Does anyone know where I can get full documentation of how to implement the SR140 on a cisco network? I have looked all over the place and cannot find any documentation.
Good luck on finding much on anything. The Right Fax solution does not have much on configuration of a new install. I wish their documentation was as detailed as the rest of Cisco's documentation.
Check this link as this is about as good as it gets:
This link is good for other Captaris Right Fax guides:
Let me know if you need any help as i have done a couple of installs with the Right FAX solution and the SR140 boards.
The basics are to add the fax server as a H323 gateway and utilize a route pattern pointing to it. Configure your Fax server as a H323 gateway.
Thanks for your quick response. I have been to both of those sites and read those docs. I have everything installed but I am trying to figure out how to route the info from the pstn to the RF server. I have a 2811 ISR and CCM 4.2.
You use a route pattern that points to the RF server that you have added as a H323 gateway.
I'm kind of a newbie when it comes to all this. Could you walk me through the setup?
Ok. I created the gateway in my CM for the RF server and I also created a Route Pattern pointing to that server. When I try to call directly to the server it picks up but I dont receive any fax tone. Is there much configuration that I need to do within the SR140 settings?
Have you actually created the H323 gateway on the RF server?
No I didn't. How do you do that?
In the Brooktrout configuration tool add the Gateway and point back to your ccm
Ok. We went under the IP parameters and added our CCM under the h323_default_gateway. We still cannot receive a fax tone when we try to call the RF server. We can see that it picks up the call but it times out.
When we try to send a fax we receive an error "Phone Line Problem"
do you have user set up to receive the incoming fax? Not the default of 100. you need what ever is being sent over from ccm to have that extension in the fax server
Also do you see in the enterprise fax manager that the call is coming?
Is all licensing completed?
The user is all setup in RF. We can see the call in EFM. When we call in we get dead air and then after about 5 seconds it goes to a busy tone. All licensing is completed. If you would like screen shots/logs of what is happening let me know. I appreciate all of your help.
do you see the correct extension coming in on the EFM? you should see dialing (1000) or whatever the number is. you may need to look at the logs and see what it is saying. Look at the admin guide to turn up logging.
Yes we see the correct extension. Do we need to create a dialing rule to append the CCM IP address to the end of the extension? I dont know if it will make a difference since we setup the gateway in SR140 config. We have tried it both ways (with and without the IP address) and its still not working. Everything (to my knowledge) is configured correctly but I still cannot get anything when I try to call/send a fax from RF.
The user is all setup in RF. We can see the call in EFM. When we call in we get dead air and then after about 5 seconds it goes to a busy tone. All licensing is completed. If you would like screen shots/logs of what is happening let me know. I appreciate all of your help.
dial from your ip phone the extension of the user in RF and let me know if you get fax tone. This will test incoming faxes. If you can do that let me know. ARe you only attempting outbound faxes?
I have tried that many times and not received a fax tone. We are trying to send faxes to RF and send them from RF. When we try to send them to RF we dont receive a fax tone, and when we try to send them from RF we receive a "phone line error"
A couple of things you can look at for outgoing faxes is the prefix digits. Look in the doctransport module under global transport settings and look at your prefix digits and set them up how need them. Under SR140 chek number of digits for DID routing.
We have a ',' in our Prefix settings and our DID length is the correct length for the user we are trying to connect to. When I try and send an outbound fax and receive the error "Phone Line Problem" I look into the history for that fax and the detailed error is "Dial tone after dialing"
I would first troubleshoot why you cant get incoming faxes to work. you should get fax tone just by dialing the four digit extension. I would start looking at traces.
One other thing to check is to make sure the codec between the rightfax and gateway is set for G711. I have not been involved in many of these, but did run into trouble this issue - it has to be G711.
Mary Beth
Where would I check to see the codec settings? Would that be on the Call Manager or the RF server?
In reviewing logs the error that we receive is "Misc error: Channel not in a connected state"
Any ideas?
Here's some screenshots of our settings. The first one is the gateway settings, the second is the route pattern settings, and the third is the brooktrout config settings.
The codec settings would be in the CallManager Regions configuration - the rightfax and the gateway would both be in device pools, assigned to certain regions, and the regions config lets you set codecs between any pair of regions. The default region used to always be included, but now you have to specifically select it and set codec. In H323 IOS gateways, you also have to set the codecs on the dial peers - the default is g729.
Mary BEth
Ok. I just checked and the region codec is set to G.711 and the gateway is assigned to the device pool.
Well the only thing that I see is that on H323 gateway you dont have a CSS assigned but if you see the calls hitting on the EFM then I dont think that is your issue. At this point it may be crucial to open a TAC but all they do is open a Captaris Service Request.
Ok. I opened a Service Request with Captaris. When I try and send a fax from my standard Rightfax installation to the SR140 I get a busy signal.
Thanks for your quick response. I have been to both of those sites and read those docs. I have everything installed but I am trying to figure out how to route the info from the pstn to the RF server. I have a 2811 ISR and CCM 4.2.
Why is CallManager required in this mix. Can we not simply pin up and H.323 trunk between the 2811 and the SR140?
Why do I ask..well, I have a Customer w/ some inbound fax failing and I'm not sure what the Gateway config should look like.
Yes if you have a H323 gateway then you dont have to go through call manager to make inbound or receive fax calls. just dial peers pointing back to the right fax server extensions will accomplish this for you.
Does anyone know if the Cisco 2811 is FOIP ready out of the box or do I need to purchase a special module?
I have a Customer where this is setup, however, faxes are not completing properly. I am seeing many "fcs-BAD" messages on a wireshark capture.
WARNING: received t38:v29-9600:HDLC:fcs-BAD
I assume you got this working. If not please let me know. I can assist you with getting this to work.
Matt, I am attempting to install this same setup that you recommended. I created a new H323 Gateway in CCM and created the H323 default gateway on the RF server. My question is what port should I specify to use on the RF server? Right now it's just set at 1.
Also I set it up as an extension in the route pattern. So when I call that extension from an internal phone, RightFax picks up and i hear silence. Doesn't hang up or anything. Just said connected. But when I try dialing the actual fax number from a phone it rings 3 times then goes to a fast busy. I thought that usually that's a codec issue. But I checked them and they are all using G711.
Any ideas?
I have cisco 2811 as my gateway with 1 PRI E1 out of which i terminated 1 DID line on SR140, i configured as below, but still things wont work..am not able to see any thing on Rightfax utility..i wonder if the call is hitting the Rightfax server , when i dial it says connected and then disconnects after 9 seconds, But when i configure in CCM as a h.323 client in device option..i can see answering call..in rightfax server.Plz help with
voice service voip
allow-connections h323 to h323
fax protocol t38 ls-redundancy 0 hs-redundancy 0 fallback cisco
dial-peer voice 201 voip
description " Right Fax dial-peer with 1 DID Number "
destination-pattern 4477
session target ipv4:10.10.10.10
codec g711alaw
fax protocol t38 ls-redundancy 0 hs-redundancy 0 fallback cisco
sridhar I have gotten this to work. Please e-mail me and I will let you know what I did to fix this.
I am having the same issue. Would you be able to send out some info on how you fixed it? I can get it to work w/o using a ccm, but I get the fast busy when routing through ccm
1. Add new H323 Gateway to CCM. Please see screenshot of gateway setup.
2. Configure a Route Pattern that associates back to H323 Gateway. Please see screenshot of Route Pattern setup.
3. Make sure you are using G711 as your codec. This can be found under System -> Region.
4. Make sure your partitions are setup correctly so they can talk to each other.
5. I setup the DID as a Directory Number and then put the Route Pattern code in the Call Forward All spot and don't forget to put a CSS for the Call Forward All.
Things to do on RightFax side.
1. Setup your RightFax server as H323 and then point it back to the Publisher. Please see screenshot of config.
2. Setup a test user in RightFax and under inbound routing, their routing code should be the same as what your put in the route pattern in CCM. So for me all my users have extension 9000-9999 associated with them in RightFax.
3. Then from a phone just dial that person's extension and check and see if the RightFax server picks up the call or attempts to. If it does that you know CCM is routing calls to RightFax.
4. Another test you can do is from the RightFax server act like your sending a new fax and for the fax number put in your extension and see if it dials you. When you pick up you should here a fax beep.
If you can't dial into and get a fax tone nor dial your extension from a new fax and have it complete I would install wireshark on RightFax server and attempt the fax again to your phone while running wireshark.
Please post your results. Once you get it working through CCM then we can troubleshoot the gateway if that is still having issues.
This is pretty similar to what I have. I can see the RightFax server attempt to answer the call, but then I get a fast busy. Outbound dialing works fine.
On your H323 gateway under inbound calls do you have enable inbound faststart?
And when you say outbound dialing do you mean outbound to your extension or outbound fax's are transmitting fine?
I have tried it with and without inbound faststart. I can dial 10 digit and internally to my number. I receive the fax tone when I answer it.
So it sounds like a gateway issue. Can you do a show mgcp and attach it.
Sure, Here is a snippet:
I am using a H.323 Gateway on a 2811.
voice-card 0
no dspfarm
voice service voip
allow-connections h323 to h323
fax protocol t38 ls-redundancy 0 hs-redundancy 0 fallback cisco
voice class codec 1
codec preference 1 g711ulaw
voice class h323 1
voice translation-rule 1
rule 1 /.*/ /55555/
voice translation-profile INBOUND
translate called 1
interface FastEthernet0/0
ip address 10.7.30.103 255.255.255.0
duplex auto
speed auto
h323-gateway voip interface
h323-gateway voip bind srcaddr 10.7.30.103
interface FastEthernet0/1
no ip address
duplex auto
speed auto
interface Serial0/0/0:23
no ip address
encapsulation hdlc
isdn switch-type primary-ni
isdn incoming-voice voice
no cdp enable
ip forward-protocol nd
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.7.30.50
ip http server
no ip http secure-server
voice-port 0/0/0:23
voice-port 0/2/0
translation-profile incoming INBOUND
voice-port 0/2/1
voice-port 0/2/2
voice-port 0/2/3
dial-peer voice 100 voip
destination-pattern .....
session target ipv4:10.7.30.100
dtmf-relay h245-alphanumeric
codec g711ulaw
fax-relay ecm disable
fax protocol t38 ls-redundancy 0 hs-redundancy 0 fallback none
no vad
dial-peer voice 1 pots
incoming called-number .
dial-peer voice 10 pots
destination-pattern 8[2-9]......
port 0/2/0
forward-digits 7
For some bonding calls through the H.323/H.320 gateway, the gateway requires a longer time to exchange the H.323 TCS message. If the time required is greater than the timer setting for several Cisco CallManager service parameters, Cisco Unified CallManager will drop the call.
If the default Cisco Unified CallManager gateway timer values appears to be too short, Cisco Unified CallManager drops the call before completion of the call connection. Cisco recommends increasing the following service parameter timers values to avoid call failure.
clusterwide parameters (Device - H323)
â¢Media Exchange Interface CapabilityTimer=25 clusterwide parameters (service)
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clusterwide parameters (service)


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Park and Ride Swales help protect Tryon Creek
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Environmental Services teamed up with the Oregon Department of Transportation and TriMet to retrofit the parking lot at the TriMet transit park and ride, on Barbur Boulevard and Capitol Highway. The project was completed this spring. Here are some before and after photos:
The park and ride is at the headwaters of Tryon Creek and has a substantial footprint of impervious area. Heavy car traffic brings in pollution from the nearby streets. These new swales capture and treat stormwater and decrease peak flows of runoff from the parking lot. This helps decrease stream erosion and protect water quality and fish habitat.
What's coming up in the Tryon Creek, Fanno Creek and Willamette River watersheds? Find out at the Southwest Watersheds Open House on Wednesday, April 24.
Read more about the Tryon Creek Watershed here: www.portlandoregon.gov/bes/tryoncreek
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There is still no resolution to the saga starring Browns All-Pro wide receiver Josh Gordon, but apparently there is progress.
Gordon, the Browns and their fans have been playing an exhausting waiting game since ESPN reported on May 9 that the Pro Bowler tested positive for marijuana and faces a potential season-long ban.
Well, Gordon's appeal hearing has finally been scheduled, ProFootballTalk.com reported today. It's set for late July, according to the report.
Browns coach Mike Pettine expects the league to make a decision before the team begins training camp July 26.
"I think that's reasonable to say," Pettine said June 12 as mandatory minicamp wrapped up. "We haven't been given a date. I think, in fairness to us, the league would let us know. There's no information as far as what the plans are to release it, but I think we're all comfortable thinking that we should know before training camp starts."
Gordon, 23, was suspended two games and docked four game checks last season for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy so another violation could result in a yearlong ban from the league. If that ends up being the case, Gordon wouldn't be eligible to apply for reinstatement with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell until a year from when the punishment is handed down.
Of course, the league and NFL Players Association could still agree to a reduced suspension before a hearing takes place.
The difference between a ban of at least a year and a partial-season suspension would be significant for reasons other than whether Gordon is allowed to play in 2014.
According to the terms of the policy, a player who's banned for at least a year can only be at his team's facility to meet with his clinician and must vacate immediately thereafter. A player who's suspended for less than a season can participate in all preseason activities, including exhibition games. Once the suspension starts, the player's contact with the team is at the club's discretion. He can attend meetings and work out, but he cannot attend practices or games.
Suspensions are evaluated on a case-by-case basis. But for what it's worth, the league announced today that it has banned Indianapolis Colts wide receiver LaVon Brazil for at least a year for violating its substance-abuse policy. He was suspended for the first four games of last season for violating the same policy.
The Browns hope Gordon can avoid a similar fate.


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large diameter arrows
I am trying to start shooting the ASA and other 3D shoots pretty seriously and I am looking at getting some large diameter arrows such as Easton Fatboys, Goldtip X Cutters ( I believe that's what they're called), CX Linejammers, and other large dia. arrows. Before buying a dozen and spending 120 plus bucks for them I want to shoot some first. So if anyone has about 3 to 6 extras they don't shoot anymore or would part with, I would like to buy them so I can shoot them before I make a much bigger investment. Thanks a lot. Bassinator
I have the Carbon Express cxl2's
I am sorry, I will NOT part with a one of them,ha,but,they are up to my standards,every one of them even after being cut weighed the same and spun on the inspector flawlessly.
I shot them at my first asa.they put me in the top 25.
I can also recommend the goldtip ultralite 22's and x-cutters,they see to make a few of my shooting partners very happy as well,the 22's will help in the wind.
As for any of the others? ???
I would go with .001's for straitness tolorances for sure no matter what you choose,I did,and it does matter to me,I can see the difference.
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text: Miley Cyrus recently recorded an episode of Unplugged and one of the songs was with Madonna. It turns out though that Madge was not Miley's first choice. Apparently Miley's first choice was Dolly Parton but Dolly turned down Miley. Miley says it was a scheduling conflict. Hmm. I'm pretty sure they could have worked out a mutual day. I wonder if Dolly is tired of being Miley's godmother and always having her name pop up in stories about the singer. I find it hard to believe that if Dolly was still crazy about Miley that she would miss the chance to sing with Miley on national television, on what will be a very watched program. Plus, Dolly could use some practice before heading over to the UK for her headlining tour of festivals there. Yep, 2014 is going to be huge for Dolly.


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EWWNP means Exploring Wild and Wonderful Number Patterns Created by Yourself! Investigate what happens if we create number patterns using some simple rules.
Find a great variety of ways of asking questions which make 8.
If you had any number of ordinary dice, what are the possible ways
of making their totals 6? What would the product of the dice be
each time?
Write down the number $4$, four times.
Put operation symbols between them so that you have a calculation.
So you might think of writing $4 \times 4 \times 4 - 4 = 60$
Now, can you redo this so that you get $15$, $16$ and $17$ for your answers?
Need more of a challenge? Try getting answers all the way from $0$ through to $10$.


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Curiosity usually gets the best of me, and in the realm of computers that's especially true. Say, for example, when my computer's running extra slow – I usually open up Task Manager to see what's up. I hit Ctrl+Alt+Delete, Ctrl+Shift+Esc or right-click on my task bar to start the Task Manager, and in seconds I'm looking at what's gobbling up my precious processing power.
So, I know what's eating up my resources, but where's the culprit hiding, exactly?
Well, in Windows 7 or Vista, that's pretty easy to find out! Make sure you're under the Processes tab in Task manager and right-click the Image name in question. Select Open File Location.
If there is indeed a location you can access, an Explorer window will pop up and show you the location of said file!
Neat! That oughta sate my curiosity for awhile!
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For those of you who know me you will probably know I'm a little fanatical about great music and finding undiscovered musicians. William Crighton is a fantastic artist I met a year ago and I have admired his work ever since. So it seemed a natural progression that I wanted to tie some of my creative thinking in with his amazingly beautiful and powerful music. The result is this 3.43 minute one shot music video for the song 'Woman like you'. We shot down in the small NSW country town of Junee using a Mövi and in 4k. I'm sure we can all appreciate the challenges associated with long single take shooting especially when combined with zero budget but regardless we had a stack of fun and the result is a great interpretation of a beautiful song, well I think it is. I'll be honest though there are a few things I would do differently, possibly because I'm a bit of obsessive with detail but hey thats the whole idea of giving things a red hot go and learning lessons.
I hope you enjoy (can I suggest that you don a pair of headphones and click full screen
Many thanks go out to a fantastic crew:
Editor/Grade: Chris Baron (palefire.com.au/)
Stylist: Cherith Crozier (cherithcrozier.com)
DOP/Movi operator: Marcus O'Brien (indigozoom.com)
First AC/Digital: John Kung (johnkung.com)
Movi Assit: Luke Carroll (email@example.com)
Make up: Jemima Seaman (firstname.lastname@example.com)
Location: Carol & Neil (Junee Chocolate Factory: greengroveorganics.com.au)


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got robbed a few nights ago. after a party i went to taco bell with my friends, it was like 230 am. so on the way back some kids rolled past us in this ghetto ass car and asked us if we had any bud, and we told em no. so they drove away and a few minutes later they come around this corner and walk up to us. there was a big mexican and 2 scrawny little white kids. so the mexicans liek yo what you got in your pockets empty them out. i told him to fuck off and he pulled out a box cutter and the two white ids started runnin our pockets. they didn't take my shitty phone, btu they took 5$ from my pocket and 20$ and like 3 grams of bud from my friends wallet. then they got my cousins ipod and left.
but htese kids suck at robbing people cause they missed my new 600$ camera and tha kid with the bud's ipod and 40$ that was in my wallet.
i'm goin out in my boys car with a few bats to find them tonight


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Guess who was fan-girling Beyonce at the Grammys?
Listen to Beyonce on iHeartRadio
How would you react if you met Beyonce? Probably close to how Anna Kendrick felt, because she said she couldn't stop shaking while talking to the superstar during the Grammy Awards.
Check it out!
Guys, it happened. I met Beyonce. And she is an angel. And I am not worthy. And I will never stop shaking. #PatheticFanGirlOfTheYear
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Washington : Government Printing Office
|Public Law 88-568
|Highway repair and reconstruction. Federal share. 73 Stat. 613.
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Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That subsection 120(f) of title 23, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
"(f) The Federal share payable on account of any repair or reconstruction provided for by funds made available under section 125 of this title shall not exceed 50 per centum of the cost thereof: Provided,
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That, in the case of any State containing nontaxable Indian lands, individual and tribal, and public domain lands (both reserved and unreserved) exclusive of national forests and national parks and monuments exceeding 5 per centum of the total area of all lands therein, the Federal share shall be increased by a percentage of the remaining cost equal to the percentage that the area of all such lands in such State, is of its total area: Provided further, That the Federal share payable on account of any repair or reconstruction of forest highways, forest development roads and trails, park roads and trails, and Indian reservation roads may amount to 100 per centum of the cost thereof, whether or not such highways, roads, or trails are on any Federal-aid highway system. Any project agreement for which the final voucher has not been approved by the Secretary on or before the date of this Act may be modified to provide for the Federal share authorized herein."
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In honor of Breast Cancer Awareness month, many beauty products are doing their part to support the cause this October. We're highlighting hair products that help your curls look gorgeous and also donate some or all of their proceeds to breast cancer organizations and charities. It's a win-win situation for all!
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June 19, 2007
**REMINDER -- ENROLL NOW FOR TOMORROW'S CHAT**FOS11 Chat Program Online Community Support GroupPost Traumatic Change - What does it mean?
During tomorrow's chat we will explore the idea of post-traumatic growth. This idea is explored in our recent Resource Guide, and is explained as "the experience where some survivors of crises report increased functioning and change after living through a serious trauma."
This online chat session will provide 9/11 victims' families, survivors, first responders, and others affected by the attacks at the Pentagon, the World Trade Center, and Shanksville the opportunity to discuss issues and topics of importance in a safe, supportive environment. As a reminder, all participants must be FOS11 members (click here to learn about membership). Dr. Donna Gaffney, a licensed mental health professional and noted trauma specialist, will facilitate the chat.
Please join us tomorrow to learn more about this topic and to share your own experiences. Log-in is from 7:45 - 8:00pm EDT and the Chat will start at 8:00pm promptly.
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Brevard, N.C. - The Brevard College Tornados used late inning heroics to sweep a double header against Indiana University of Pennsylvania Tuesday at Gil Coan Field. BC scored four runs in the bottom of the seventh in Game One for a 12-11 walk-off victory. A four run sixth inning in game two gave Brevard a 11-9 comeback win.
In Game One Kellen Moman went two for four with two runs scored and four RBI. His three run double to right center on a 1-2 pitch in the bottom of the seventh tied the score at 11. Matthew Pruitt notched the game winning hit with a single through the left side to plate Stephen Mullis.
Brevard (3-10) came out strong in Game One, scoring eight runs in the first two innings. Moman laced an RBI double to right center as part of a three run Brevard first. Ronald Patterson had the big hit of the second inning with a two-run triple down the right field line. Patterson went two for three with two RBI and two runs scored. Mullis drove in two with a double to left center.
The Crimson Hawks (3-8) have played 11 consecutive road games. They scored four runs in the top of the fourth off of Shane Galloway, who made his first start of the season. Shortstop Paul Bingham tripled down the left field line to drive in three. Bingham went two for four with four RBI and scored two runs in game one. T.J. Nichols had three hits in four at bats while driving in two for IUP.
Josh Case pitched a hitless seventh inning to earn his first victory of the season. He walked a batter and had one strikeout. Mitch Perez took his second loss of the season, inheriting a bases loaded no one out situation, and was charged with one run in two thirds of an inning.
The Tornados came back from an 8-1 deficit in the second game to win 11-9. Jackie Corn went three for four with three runs scored and three driven in. He put Brevard on the board with a leadoff home run in the second inning and blasted a game winning two-run shot to left field in the sixth.
The game was tied at one through the first three innings when IUP exploded for seven runs on six hits in their half of the fourth. They did all of their damage with two outs, as Jacob Koontz struck out Bingham looking and got Nichols to fly out to left. Robbie Zinesmeister and Vern Powell each had RBI doubles. Jamie Smith added a two-run single and IUP benefited from an error and a couple of passed balls.
Joseph Lepore came in relief of Tommy Yearty and pitched a scoreless sixth inning to win his first game of the year. Matthew Pruitt came on in the seventh, recorded one strikeout, and stranded two runners in saving his first game of 2010. Pruitt began the game at third base and went two for three with three RBI and a run scored.
The Tornados host Anderson Wednesday, March 10 at 2:30 p.m. IUP travels to Lenoir-Rhyne for a 3:30 first pitch Wednesday.


text: No doubt as they talked in pre game, Astro talent or potential talent is in the minor leagues right now. Astros have put the focus on building the minor league system. It had to be done, for now any win for the big league team is icing on the cake.


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May 4, 2006
9/11 Online Community Support Group:Reactions to the New Flight 93 Film Opening Soon
The new film, United 93, written and directed by Paul Greengrass, is scheduled to open in theaters on April 28th and is being shown on the first day of the Tribeca Film Festival in New York City on April 25th. With the opening just days away, many have already seen trailers, television and print ads for the film. How do you respond when you see a trailer? How do you decide to go see the movie? How do you prepare for and cope with your reactions to the film? We would like to offer you an opportunity to explore these thoughts and feelings during our next online chat.
Please join your peers in the 9/11 community for an online chat on Thursday, April 27th from 8-9PM EST. This online chat session will provide 9/11 victims' families, survivors, first responders, and others affected by the attacks at the Pentagon, the World Trade Center, and Shanksville the opportunity to discuss issues and topics of importance in a safe, supportive environment. As a reminder, all participants must be FOS11 members (please see below on how to register as a member - membership is free). Dr. Donna Gaffney, a licensed mental health professional and noted trauma specialist, will facilitate the chat.
Enroll Now:
After you login, you will be able to choose an anonymous chat name (which will identify you in the chat room) and a password. Then, you will receive an email with a link to the chat. On Thursday, April 27th at 8pm, please click on the link that is emailed to you and enter your chosen chat name and password. As a reminder, all participants must be 18 years of age or older and members of Families of September 11 (FOS11). To register as a FOS11 member, please click on the link at the bottom of this email. If you have any problems or questions, contact email@example.com or 212-575-1878.


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Reese Witherspoon got all dressed up for an event last night with Princess Charlene Of Monaco.
Rachel Zoe after a party last night that also had
Emma Roberts and
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Sean Bean filming his television show.
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Tori Spelling out yesterday and for once not being filmed.
Uma Thurman found the yellow hat. Now she just needs to find George.


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OPUS - An Intellectual Circus: Photogallery
Monday, 09 May 2011
Trinity students and faculty members celebrated the annual OPUS event in April. OPUS, sometimes described as "an intellectual circus," is sponsored by Trinity's Academic Initiative.
The celebration of student intellectual and artistic endeavor begins with a procession though campus, led by the Troll, the traditional bagpiper, and professors dressed as Abe Lincoln and Sinter Klaas. Following the parade is a day full of student presentations, musical performances, a gallery exhibit, a picnic, and a special Outcry worship service.
Many academic departments were represented by students from the major presenting original videos, capstone projects, and reports from Interim courses. Students enjoyed entertainment provided by Trinity music, dance, and comedy groups, including Playtimez Ova, In ConTroll, the Gospel Choir, and the Jazz Band.
J.R. Wydra '11 of Tinley Park, Illinois, this year's Lincoln Laureate, pronounced the official opening of the day.
OPUS award winners - Click here for full list.
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'This year marks the sixth season in the past 10 the Sabres failed to make the playoffs, all of which — of course — under GM Darcy Regier and head coach Lindy Ruff. Ruff had a lot to do with his team's failure midway through the season. Regier failed to react quick enough, the same way his team failed to react when its star netminder was steamrolled in November, cost them dearly.'
Vital offseason in store for Sabres
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A Celebration of the Arts
St. Mary's School
Monday, April 15, 2013 from 6:00 PM to 7:30 PM (PDT)
Event Details
Bring the whole family to the 2014 St. Mary's School Celebration of the Arts and see how art comes alive with IB exploration. Each student will have featured works of art from Early Education through Grade 8. The show includes light refreshments, live performances and fun activities for all ages.
Please RSVP to let us know how many people will be in your party for this art-filled evening.
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Recipe: Chesapeake Style Pork Chops
The predominant flavor of the Chesapeake region is Old Bay Seasoning. It's a secret blend of herbs and spices that was developed in the 1940s. Used primarily to season crabs, it has become a flavor that to my mind epitomizes the steamy summers and incredible bounty of the region.
It is equally welcome on fresh-sliced, summer-ripe tomatoes, French fries, and meat as it is on seafood. In this recipe I season pork chops with the spice and slowly grill them to seal in the moisture. Really it's not any more complicated than that.
Pre-heat a charcoal or gas grill and push all of the coals to one side. Season the pork chops with Old Bay Seasoning and allow to sit for at least ten minutes for the flavors to be absorbed. Place the chops directly over the coals and cook for two minutes. Remove the chops to the coolest part of the grill and cover the grill to capture the heat and slowly roast the meat.
While this is cooking I like to grill up some peaches, which are a perfect foil for the chops. Cut a few peaches in half and remove the pit. Brush with oil and place over the coals. Cook for about 10 minutes or until they are deeply caramelized and tender but not falling apart. The chops should take about 12 minutes to cook per inch of thickness, depending on the heat of the fire.
Serve with your favorite sides, such as cole slaw, potato salad, grilled onions, or whatever you like best.
One of the great curiosities of our modern world is why we feed fish to chicken and pigs. I have never in my life seen a pig go fishing, nor have I even heard of such an account. We take perfectly good fish and grind it up to feed to animals that simply should not be eating them. In the case of Menhaden, a fish that humans do not eat, directly at least, they are a major part of the marine ecosystem and are dinner for countless species, which by natural order do eat fish. When we take sea life from the ocean, we are taking dinner from something else. All marine creatures have two purposes: to eat and be eaten.
This indiscriminate use of ocean life is avoidable. When I cook meat, I always look for a product that has been fed a vegetarian diet. I also look for products that are free of antibiotics and growth hormones, but that is a story for another episode.
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'B' the Recipe
Join Barton Seaver on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay, where he meets a father-son crab-fishing team working to keep a family business and a local tradition alive.
The Sweet Taste of Success
The striped bass represents one of the greatest success stories in conservation to date. Join waterman Rick Morlock and the Blue Ocean Institute's Carl Safina to discuss the phenomenon and catch a few beauties to grill up Seaver-style.
Wine From Water
Discover how the ocean influences a California vineyard and the sparkling wines it produces in this episode of Cook-Wise, featuring chef Barton Seaver on location in Sonoma Valley.
Environmentalism on the Half Shell
Follow Barton Seaver as he visits the owners of a hundred-year-old oyster company who are working to keep the famous oysters on the map—and on our plates.
Chicken by the Sea
Slow-roasted chicken and late summer vegetables are on chef Barton Seaver's menu when he visits the Chesapeake Bay.
Barton's Recipes
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- National Geographic Weekend: Lionfish
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I've always read/been told that you should use Serif fonts in print and Sans Serif fonts online.
Do you agree with this?
I see that a lot of online newspapers use Serif fonts.
Hi Tom
From a print perspective, it is not about using only a Serfi typeface exclusively, but rather choosing one that will compliment your design and be an effective mechanism in translating your concept.
As with webdesign, it is best to stick to a limited range of typefaces that are able to be used on multiple browsers. Standard typefaces which include Arial, times, courier, Verdana Georgia.
In any case you probably know this and my list is not the best. But I would say choose a typeface that suits the content. For example, an online newspaper, as you have mentioned, may choose times new roaman. But that's not to say that it wont look good with tahoma.
A sans-serif typeface adds readability. The sans means 'without' the superfluous decoration you find on typefaces such as Times. Another thing to consider with serif fonts is what their ascenders and descenders are doing. Often these can be longer and shorter (BTW they are how far a y goes down the page, or how hight the top of a t goes). The x height will also be affected.
This means you will need to adjust your leading tracking/ kerning to suit (that's the distance letters/words are apart and line height).
A good place deepen your understanding of type face usage is at the beginning.
The best computer montior in the world sucks badly in comparison to the cheapest newsprint. Serifs work on paper to help guide the eye and are often desireable. On computer screens they only confuse the eye and make the text harder to read, and should be avoided except in headings where they are large enough to look OK.
The web is not paper, and it isn't going to be paper anytime soon. When monitors get down to around 300 pixels to the inch then serif fonts might be a workabale idea, but that ain't gonna happen any time soon and so you sould continue to avoid serifs for normally sized text.
I don't agree.
Design has guidelines, not rules.
Though as far as readability goes, online text is easier to read with sans-serifs, and print is easier with serfis, a large enough serif can work beautifully online as a header. Most sites should limit themselves to no more than 3 typefaces IMO, and there needs to be a good differentiation between the fonts.
Tahoma mixed with Verdana is too similar. But use Georgia for a header and Tahoma for a body text and you have a much more harmonious difference.
Duly noted.
However, why then, do major websites like the New York Times, LA Times, Wall Street Journal, Time magazine, etc use Serif fonts?
Firstly, when it comes to professionalism in all it's ways, there really are no standards out there; just guides. Visual design is subjective, like art; what one person likes, others may not. I try for what is called the LCD approach (lowest common denominator).
This means appealing to the widest amount of people possible.
Look at Google. Undoubtedly a powerhouse monstrosity of search incredible-ness, and yet their website frontpage, as beautifully minimalistic as it is, as of this writing, has 82 validation errors.
Serifs have their place, even in web-based typography. I personally don't feel we need 300-ppi capable monitors to appreciate what serifs have to offer via screen mediums.
As for NY Times (one of your examples), as proven with Google, just because you're popular, doesn't mean you're high quality; and people will argue what quality really matters with the service they provide. NYT uses larger, bolder serif fonts (Georgia, I believe) for titles, and this looks great, but they also use Georgia for body text, which I personally feel a nice font like Calibri or Myriad Pro would work better.
It's important, IMO, for headers and body text to by harmonious, which oddly enough, means they need to have significant differences to each other; but need to compliment each other as well.
(Oh, and NYT has over 380 validation errors. That's disgraceful and embarrassing in my books)
I would agree with that as a general guideline for body text. At normal body text size on screen, the letters are usually too small for serifs to show cleanly and without dominating the letter shape. Some fonts that have been specifically designed for screen use (such as Georgia) are undoubtedly better than the generic but awful TNR, but they still look fussy compared with the clean sans-serif shapes of Arial, Verdana, Trebuchet or Calibri.
For print, the serifs will help to lead the reader's eye along the line and make it easier for people to follow the text.
That's all for body text - that doesn't mean you shouldn't break with that style for headings, boxouts and so on. While you don't want to go mad with too many different fonts (or it starts to look like something your great-aunt did in Word the first time she found out how to change fonts...), if you choose fonts that complement each other you can get a good effect by using serifed headings and sans-serifed body text.
As to why many newspaper sites use serif fonts, I would guess that they are trying to replicate their print style. The news site that is generally recognised as one of the best in the business (the BBC) currently uses Arial, and previously used Verdana. Just because some news sites use serif fonts does not mean it's good practice!
Well, that is sorta what I want to avoid... doing what the masses do and crave. (Very unoriginal!)
Yet another sign that Google is evil!!
NYT uses larger, bolder serif fonts (Georgia, I believe) for titles, and this looks great, but they also use Georgia for body text, which I personally feel a nice font like Calibri or Myriad Pro would work better.
It sounds like you know fonts pretty well!
Is there is an easy way to know what fonts a website uses? (Sometimes trying to find the right style sheet on a major website is nearly impossible!)
So tell me more about Georgia and Calibri and Myriad Pro.
What do you like about them?
How are they different from other fonts?
Are they very well supported in browsers?
So how do you learn what is "harmonious"?
I just like the look of their content. Not saying I want their entire look. And I certainly would like to write error-free code!
To me, I think Serif fonts look amateurish. They look like they were created by a programmer! :lol:
What I like about the look of the websites I mentioned above is that they look more "professional" and "distinguished" in terms of content.
if you choose fonts that complement each other you can get a good effect by using serifed headings and sans-serifed body text.
So how do I know which Serif and Sans-Serif fonts go well together?
Also, isn't the opposite for print? I remember learning that body text should be Serif, and headings should use Sans-Serif.
Far enough. With my American bias, I haven't looked at the BBC's website, but will now. (I did notice last night that USA Today uses Sans-Serif fonts to good effect.)
Here is an old article talking about the NY Times font.
Not sure what they currently use.
BTW, can you sue that font or is it copyrighted?
You're over analyzing design too much. You're looking for a logic out of it, and there really isn't any. I understand you're trying to find principles that help create popular typography, but there is honestly a huge amount of information in regards to how fonts work with your project.
I use Firefox 3.6 with Firebug plugin. When a website loads up, you can inspect an element (like a paragraph tag that has a font you like) and it'll tell you the CSS properties applied to it, which include the font used.
Understand that if you specify a font that the user does not have on their machine, users will not see it. How to specify the order and font name is known as a "Font Stack". Do a Google search on that in order to find out what I mean.
Why I like fonts like Myriad Pro is impossible for me to put into words. I can't tell you why I like it so much, but I really do; it has a timeless classy quality. Don't forget that with Myriad Pro, you can have different font faces like: Oblique, Condensed, Regular, Italic, Semibold, Semibold Italic, Bold, Bold Italic, Black, Black Italic, etc.
Have a look at Myriad Pro
You can use it as it come with the Microsoft package and is free license. As far as I know.
Because said companies STILL have no clue how the web even works, which is why their websites are illegible inaccessible bloated trash? I don't even want to THINK what their bounce rates are. (or absurd hosting costs)
Those ones listed still have their heads wedged so far up print's backside they're tasting tonsils, and wouldn't know accessibility if it took a dump on them from orbit!
Just because it's a professional website doesn't mean it's professional quality -- the sites you listed being some of the worst there are online... Well, at least until you look at anything made by Microsoft or Yahoo.. Entirely typical of the 'big name print world' companies who just don't get that (as Ed said) the Internet is not PRINT!
Most of said websites are so ineptly coded and constructed that frankly I wonder how in the bloody blue blazes any of these people are able to keep their jobs; I guess it's a case of "never underestimate the stupidity of their boss." -- how else does one get away with blowing half a megabyte page load built around 130k of markup and 90k of javascript totaling no less than 100 separate files on delivering 12k of plaintext content!
It's called ineptitude -- and usually the bigger the brick and mortar name, the worse it gets as these companies STILL think of the Internet as a cute side addition to their company not realizing that for many of them (like newsprint) their days are counted. It's not a question of IF they'll become irrelevant, but when.
Hence the half minute page-loads on my 22mbps downstream connection... and hence why I don't go to the print outlet websites as usually the TV stations at least seem to 'get it' a bit better.
So taking web tips from their sites? Even for something like fonts just say NO!
deathshadow, what a pleasure to read your post, a very serious indictment of the horrors of form over function
"tasting tonsils" and "from orbit" are memorable
when will people learn that web design is all about how something works, and not how pretty it is
The easiest way is to use a developer tool like Firebug (Firefox) or Dragonfly (Opera). This will tell you what fonts have been set, although it's up to you to know whether you have the first one listed installed on your computer!
These fonts were all designed for screen use rather than for print, which means they work well at small text sizes, with the letterforms aligned up with the pixel grid, so they retain their shape and easy legibility.
Georgia is very widely installed. Calibri is fairly widely used - it is part of the standard package on Windows Vista and W7, but is also available with Office 2007 and Powerpoint Viewer 2007 on older OSs. Myriad looks great but isn't very common out there in the real world of home PCs.
The same way you learn which colours are harmonious, and what design features complement each other well. Try them and see. If you don't have an arty bone in your body, ask other people. Good design is rarely a right or wrong answer, but a consensus opinion will generally guide you the right way.
That is the general guideline for print, yes. So it's worth thinking about that when you write your print stylesheet - you then have to decide whether to swap the serif and sans-serif fonts over to get the best font for each media, or whether to keep them as they are on the screen to reinforce consistent branding and design.
Assuming you're just specifying the font using ordinary CSS, you can set any font you want ... but if the user hasn't got it installed on their computer, they won't see it in that font. There's no harm in specifying a slightly more obscure font as the first choice, if you can find a more common (but similar) font to use as the second/third choice.
If you are looking at embedding the font so that users' browsers download it and use it then yes, you would need to look into licensing restrictions. I doubt that they use the same font on their website as they do in print!
That link takes me to an Adobe page where you have to spend a couple hundred dollars to buy the font.
So wouldn't that create the exact problem of people not having the font that you describe above?
A few comments...
1.) I just said that I liked some of the fonts on the websites mentioned earlier. I never said I liked their entire layouts, nor did I say I liked how things were coded.
2.) According to you, r937,
web design is all about how something works, and not how pretty it is
Well, being successful in business and making $$$ IS about how things appear and how they are perceived. No one visits a website because they have the tightest HTML and CSS code around. (Well, unless you don't have a life!)
Being a good business person - but also someone who takes pride in his IT work - my goal is to achieve both: A professional-looking design and layout, with respectable code that is accessible to as many people as practical.
I do believe you can have both.
These are not mutually-exclusive concepts as you seem to imply.
Is there someone that lists all of the Common Fonts and has a picture of each - so you see what they should look like? (Almost like an "Online Library of Computer Fonts?!)
So what do you think are the Top-5 Serif and Sans-Serif Fonts for online??
And why?
I spent some time browsing over their site last night. (Haven't been there in ages.)
You are right, they do have a really nice looking website - both layout and font too!
Why the BBC would go from a font designed for readability (and one of the few who can tell I from l) like Verdana to something that isn't anywhere as good (Arial, who canNOT tell I from l), I have no clue. Verdana has a larger x-height at the same font-size setting as other fonts... that alone makes it a winner. Arial gets damn small damn fast for me. But, ok, it's the cheerleader/football jock of fonts, everyone uses it...
but anyway...
Well, that is sorta what I want to avoid... doing what the masses do and crave. (Very unoriginal!)
When it comes to artsy "design", go ahead, be original.
When it comes to usability (and this includes readability), don't be original. Use what works and is easiest for real human beings. Art is not readable. Science and user studies point the way. Do the right thing, as often as you can get past your clients (hint: tell them it's good for SEO... works for me).
Well, being successful in business and making $$$ IS about how things appear and how they are perceived.
But is always secondary to usability. If it doesn't work, we don't care how lovely it is. The most awesomely beautifully designed can opener who is a pain in the butt to open cans with will sit in the drawer. Joe may take it out once in a while to show to his friends, but he'll use the one he got at the ten-cent shop when he needs to open a can.
It has to work first, and then you can worry about looking more awesome than everyone else... and then you need to make sure the awesome-saus didn't ruin the usability.
Is there someone that lists all of the Common Fonts and has a picture of each - so you see what they should look like? (Almost like an "Online Library of Computer Fonts?!)
I use this page (which is slowly starting to date): http://www.apaddedcell.com/web-fontsAlso the "Linux" here is "Ubuntu" though most of those fonts also work for Fedora and Open Suse as well.
But this one stays up to date more: http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/sampler-CombinedResults.shtml (but the disadvantage of this page is you have to click on "image" for every font you don't have... and I don't have 90% of those).
Oh, forget Vista fonts unless you are absolutely in love, for two reasons (and yeah, I'll prolly be the only one here to say this... vista fonts have a lot of love, mostly because of the lack of ugly):
-most of them (not all) are tiny as hell. If 1em font size is readable in Verdana, it's almost half that size in Calibri. Cute, but difficult to stack well. I tend to try to keep my font stacks with similar-sized fonts, so huge size differences don't occur when font #2 or #3 is getting used instead of the first one I set.
-Vista fonts are not available to me. No Linux, no Mac, no ancient Windows (if you are targeting the corporate world, especially finance and banking with your site, expect they are using Windows 2000 servers and IE5 or 6... bleh. And no pretty vista fonts). So then unless you're using the two or three who are not so damn tiny (and one of those is monospace so you're not using it for body text anyway), you'll have huge text-size differences between (new) Windows vs every other OS.


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Scientists were able to eliminate tinnitus—a persistent ringing in the ears—in rats by stimulating a nerve in the neck while playing a variety of tones. The finding gives hope for a future tinnitus cure in humans.
Tinnitus is usually a high-pitched tone in one or both ears, but can also sound like a clicking, roaring or whooshing sound. While tinnitus isn't fully understood, it's known to be a sign that something is wrong in the sound processing system. Something as simple as a piece of earwax blocking the ear canal can cause tinnitus, but it can also come from a number of health conditions—for example, from hearing loss after being exposed to loud noise.
There's no known cure for tinnitus. Current treatments generally involve masking the sound or learning to ignore it. NIH-funded researchers set out to see if they could develop a way to reverse tinnitus by essentially resetting the brain's sound processing system.
The researchers used vagus nerve stimulation (VNS), a technique known to release chemicals that encourage changes in the brain. They paired it with the playing of different tones other than the tinnitus frequency. This technique, the scientists reasoned, might induce brain cells to tune to frequencies other than the tinnitus one.
The researchers played various tones during VNS to noise-exposed rats with tinnitus 300 times a day for about 3 weeks. Both the rats' behavior and brain activity tests showed that their tinnitus had disappeared.
"The key is that, unlike previous treatments, we're not masking the tinnitus," says Dr. Michael Kilgard of the University of Texas, one of the lead researchers. "We are eliminating the source of the tinnitus."
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Anybody who watched the NCAA Tournament knows one sorry fact about college basketball: It is broken.
Anybody who watched college basketball's regular season knows … wait, what? There's a regular season in college basketball?
Yeah, this whole thing needs to be fixed.
I don't mean fixed fixed, I mean repaired, as in made better.
Reflecting back on what we all just saw concluded in Atlanta a ho-hum season followed by bad basketball in the tourney and punctuated with a really good championship fight between Louisville and Michigan it's clear that trouble has fallen on the college game. Instead of inspiring us to think college basketball is great, that title game made us wonder where that kind of play had been for the better part of five months.
Scoring dipped this season to its lowest level since 1952. Shooting percentages were as low as they've been in more than 50 years. Until the championship game, this was the lowest-scoring NCAA Tournament since the 3-point line was implemented.
There were times during the tournament when it looked as though everybody on the floor had hands of stone, which is a lot more advantageous at the defensive end. The term touch was redefined as and reduced to a forearm shiver into the back or chest of players attempting the slightest bit of offensive creativity.
To too large a degree in the college game, offense has been outpaced by defense, which is to say clutching and grabbing and bumping and fouling.
That's just one of the problems plaguing the game. There are many others. But the purpose here isn't to complain. It's to suggest improvements. So here are a few that would make college basketball better than the mess it has spiraled into a draw only when America is checking its brackets, looking to see if it can win its office pool:
Make the regular season mean something
The NCAA Tournament is terrific fun, but it shouldn't be the only three-week period when anybody pays attention. If 68 teams are getting in, sometimes seven teams from the same conference, then who gives a flying rip about a game between Wisconsin and Purdue in January? If the purpose of a national championship is to allow the country's best teams a rightful shot at a title, then the present format is too accommodating. What has the sixth-place team from the Big 12 or ACC done all season to earn that shot? (Yes, we know Michigan finished tied for fourth in the Big Ten.) That kind of inclusion turns the regular season into an exhibition. The field should be cut sizably, and the number of teams from each conference also should be limited. Then those midseason league games would have meaning. It never will happen, but it should.
Get rid of conference tournaments
What started as a nice little concept in the ACC has transformed into a coast-to-coast beast. The worst aspect of them is they compromise the regular season, in the case of mid-major leagues nearly eclipsing all significance of anything that has come before. Why should a 14-15 team have a shot at knocking off a 23-6 team? Regular-season champions should get the automatic bids, not league tourney champs.
Move the shot clock to 24 seconds
Bob Cousy once said the 24-second shot clock saved the NBA. It now needs to do the same for college hoops. NCAA basketball needs more scoring, and 35 seconds is too many per possession. Even the women's college game has lowered that to 30 seconds. Those who believe the lesser teams would suffer against the greater ones because of this proposal should remember that rewarding the best teams is the purpose of competition. Everything else is wasting time.
Find and train better referees
Let's say it the way it is here: Far too many college refs suck. They make too many calls where they anticipate what's going to happen rather than react to what really happens. They allow too much physical contact, which gives the edge to the defense. Even Rick Pitino noted as much at the Final Four, lauding the NBA for making space for offensive basketball, while the college refs continue to allow defensive clutter, which uglies up the college game. Another thing: End the refs' love affair with charging calls. It's gotten ridiculous.
Keep eligibility rules the way they are
Early departures for the NBA by elite players dreaded one-and-dones not only are disrupting the continuity of the college game and reducing its quality of play, but they also are limiting the connection fans have to what otherwise would be recognized names. If all the young stars in the NBA were still in college, the impact would be huge.
What's happening now is a spinning door of peek-a-boo premium talent at marquee programs facing bunches of juniors and seniors at lesser programs, with other mixes in between. Retaining that top talent for three years instead of one would make the college games better. The trouble here is, at what cost? Blocking the professional options of young men who are talented and marketable enough to be drafted by NBA teams just for our pleasure or for the good of a college game that remunerates them with nothing more than a scholarship while that college game makes billions of dollars is disingenuous and, even worse, un-American.
Given that choice, we who watch college basketball, and for that matter, the college game itself, will have to go on suffering with and making the best of the scarce, brief talent available.
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So with fix-vesa (else "no screens" error will appear) backtrack runs normal exept wlan not found (device named lo and only contains localhost).
But whats Backtrack without internet
no but even if i do it still doesnt work
the madwifi driver aitn able to instlal on bt4? gives me error every time... (like smth not found even if i make an build everything up...)
compat-driver (ath5k /9k) gives me back less errors, but now theres even less reaktion of the Atheros card... imma go on tommorw if anybody has an idea why these both driver packages always tell me they cant find some files (what is unexplainable to me because they are original downoad from the original sites).. pls tell me :P
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If you're missing files post what output you're getting. Otherwise noone can help get your card installed properly.
oke i reinstlaled bt, did your "/etc/init.d/networking start" command. A wlan device is detected (wlan0). It has the same Mac Adresse as if i use wlan with Windows. But still if i try to connect to internet it cant resolve host.So i did command "ifconfig wlan0 up" but it still not works. In my network interface window in the controll Center there is only one device caled low but i have no idea how to get wlan0 into that list.if i do "iwlist wlan0 scan" i get servereal networks including the one i want to connect to.Im sry if it sounds nooby but how do i connect to than network :S
and thx to hhmatt yout posts helped me lot, hope you can read this one easyer xD
You can start the wicd wireless network manager.
Then use the GUI to connect to whichever network you chose.Code:/etc/init.d/wicd start
Or you can check out this helpful thread by pureh@te.
"/etc/init.d/wicd start" onyl results in the message "Starting Network Connection manager: wicd" but no gui appears.
Also the start over "All Aplication/Internet" doesnt brign up a window. So i tried to run Wicd in foreground but it only says "Starting automatic reconnect prozess" and nothing else happens. wow got it working now
So update :P backtrack works good on ASUS X70AB!
If you get screen error (appeared to me when i start live cd), type:
and it will workCode:#fix-vesa and after that #startx
To start Wlan type
and after thatCode:#/etc/init.d/networking start
and everything works just fineCode:#/etc/init.d/wicd start and #wicd-client -n
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Members of Hollywood's elite gathered at the Warner Brothers Studios in Burbank, CA for the Environmental Media Awards on Saturday (September 29), to celebrate those among them most committed to protecting the environment.
Always a glitzy gathering, the Hollywood Foreign Press Association held their 2012 Installation Luncheon today (August 9), drawing A-list stars including Jennifer Lawrence, Bradley Cooper and Christina Hendricks to the Beverly Hills Hotel.
It's one of the most highly anticipated films of the year, and a full lineup of our favorite stars were on hand for the New York City premiere of "New Year's Eve" on Wednesday night (December 7).
Hollywood and politics always seem to find a way to come together, and many of Tinseltown's top names teamed up for the Voto Latino "United We Win" campaign.
Founder Rosario Dawson showed up at Line 204 East Stages to film a new spot for the movement, looking fine in a white top and peach cardigan.
Arriving for the annual Hollywood Foreign Press Association Installation Luncheon, Eva Longoria and Nicole Kidman attended the Beverly Hills, CA event earlier today (July 28).
The "Desperate Housewives" beauty and the "Australia" actress both looked lovely as they made their way through the media area ahead of the luncheon, happily smiling for the snapping photogs.
While Lily Allen showed up drunk to the London shindig back in September, GQ magazine's US version of their "Men of the Year" party was nothing but classy last night in Hollywood.
Held at the famed Chateau Marmont, the girls of Tinseltown got dressed up and came out in the droves to enjoy a drink and socialize amongst one another.
While most of the attention this past Saturday was given to the arrival of David Beckham at the Galaxy/Chelsea soccer match, Naomi Watts was celebrating a baby shower with her close friends across town in Los Angeles.
Watts, who is currently unmarried, lives with her longtime boyfriend, Liev Schreiber. The happy couple hosted the shower at their home for approximately 15 guests, with some of the most notable including Kate Hudson and actress Carla Gugino.