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4.0 HO engine/transmission combo for a Rambler
After much thought, I've decided to install a 4.0 HO Jeep engine in my '68 Rambler American. My question is, what transmissions will fit? Are all Jeeps 4wd? My Rambler doesn't need a transfer case hangin' off the back of the tranny. I know AMC changed the six's bell pattern to match their v8s in '72. Will these older three speed autos work with the newer 4.0? Also, are there any stick shift options open to me? My car is stick now and I'd like to keep it that way but if the automatic is my only choice, a slushbox it is then. I remember somebody on here had a T-5 behind his six powered Rambler. Thanks for any help in this matter.
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Looks like the SR4, T4 and T5 can work....
Any 72 or later transmission will bolt to the 4.0L. The problem you'll have is the crankshaft position sensor. It has to be mounted on the old bell, which isn't terribly difficult, or you can purchase a relocation kit from Advance Adapters that comes with a new balancer and sensor mount for around $300. That's the easiest way to go, unless you buy a two wheel drive Jeep complete with the transmission. 2WD Jeeps are hard to find where snow is common, but relatively easy down south. I'm running a 4.0L and AW4 (the Jeep OD auto trans) in a 63 Classic now.
If you use an old model transmission without the relocation kit, you have to run the original flywheel or flexplate. That can be difficult with auto transmissions, but no problem with a stick shift. All AMC sixes are internally balanced, so you can swap flywheels and flexplates. The best bet if using an older model auto is to use the flexplate that came with the original six then use the relocator kit. The T-14 or T-15 in the Rambler should work fine behind a 4.0L. You'll need a later model bell housing though. A V-8 bell will fit, but AMC V-8 bells are around 8" deep, six bells only around 6.5" deep. So you'll need a V-8 transmission as well (longer input shaft, of course!).
Before I got the AW4 I ran an old model three speed trans on my 4.0L. I modified the bell and sensor to fit. I wanted a five speed, but couldn't find one before the old three speed was about shot. I had the old T-96 light duty trans, not a T-14 or T-15 though. Yours should be fine as long as you are using near stock tires and not doing burnouts all the time. On occasion should be okay too.
Thanks for the replies. Its very hard to get any good AMC info where I live. Let me see if this will work: New 4.0 HO six + 1972-up six cylinder bell housing (with a hole made for the timing sensor) + my current 3-spd stick tranny. How's that sound?
Rambler 4.0 swap
I have a 1961 classic cross country wagon. Its a cool ride, with family road trip potential. I know some things about these Ramblers as I currently own 3 Ramblers, and I like amc products in general. With that said. I love the idea of a sensible engine swap.
It runs the Stock 196 aluminum block. Engine. With a 3 speed manual w/overdrive Tranny.
Is the 4.0 swap Bolt on, to this tranny?
I also have two 1962 Automatic 3 speed, pushbutton, trannys. Also curios if these would fit the 4.0?
Any help would be great! And you would help keep a 350 chev out of a Rambler! lol
Sorry for the late reply Saito, but YES, that will work. You might want to go over to www.theamcforum.com and join up. There's a six cylinder area with a sub area specifically for 4.0L swaps.
Hellnote1: Yes to your trans question, BUT -- it won't last long. The T-96/OD trans used behind the 196 is marginal for anything with more power. I ran a T-96 behind a 4.0L for about 18 months and took it easy. The trans was freshly rebuilt when installed. The weakest prat is the synchronizer (only one between 2 and 3!), and it lasted maybe 150 miles/one week. I put all new gears in the trans. When I pulled it and replaced with an AW4 auto I pulled the cover off. Gears had obvious wear on them, looked like a 40-50K trans, not a 7-9K trans! I probably could have got by with another 18 months, but just barely.
The autos would fair a bit better, should be cast iron models. But they won't bolt up directly. I THINK they will bolt up to a 1966-71 V-8 M-40 bell housing or M-11/M-12 bell housing. Measure the depth of the bell. The later six bells are around 6.5" deep, the V-8 bells are around 8" deep. You'd need a bell that would bolt to your engine (66-71 290/304/343/360/390 V-8) that is the same depth as the bell you have now. That might be a problem.
The best bet is to use a Jeep AW4 two wheel drive trans or manual trans. Jeep XJ Cherokees and MJ Comanches came in 2WD 1987+, but they are hard to find in snow country. Down south they are reasonably common. You can also use any 72+ three speed auto trans. The bell can be drilled to mount a Wrangler 4.0L crank sensor or you can get a CPS relocater kit from HESCO (just over $300, includes new balancer). Use a Wrangler flexplate for the Chrysler trannys (AMC used the 904 behind sixes, 998 behind 304 V-8, 727 behind 360 and larger V-8s). The AMC model Chrysler trannys are identical to Chrysler models EXCEPT that the bell housing is AMC pattern only. Once you find an AMC case all other parts interchange and are easy to get. Use a Ford Ranger rear axle with ladder bars and convert to open driveshaft, ditching the torque tube.
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Phones have become a little stale. Whether it's an iPhone 7, Huawei P10, Sony Xperia XZ Premium or any other flagship phone, they all look and feel the same. But just when I thought a phone couldn't surprise and delight me any more, the Samsung Galaxy S8 has proved me wrong.
From the moment I picked up the S8 – and its larger, 6.2-inch sibling the Galaxy S8+ – I realised it was even more special than I expected. This is a phone that feels innovative, a phone that I can't help but recommend – even if it will set you back £689/$720.
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The Galaxy S8 goes on sale globally on April 28 and is priced at £689 in the UK or $720 in the US if you want to buy it outright.
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Nothing comes close to the Galaxy S8 design-wise. It's the best-looking phone I've ever seen, leaving every other handset trailing in its wake.
The curved rear, as seen on the Galaxy S7, nestles perfectly in your palm, while the glass shimmers as the light hits it. The device is available in three colours – a dark black, bright silver and a grey with a blueish tinge – with no ugly white front plate in sight.
My review unit is the black option, and it's properly black all over, with shiny sides that blend into the display. It feels like one complete piece, with the glass, screen and metal combining all together.
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The volume rocker and standby switch are joined by a new button on the side. This is a dedicated Bixby button – which I'll cover in more detail in the Software section – and while it shows Samsung is taking its new virtual assistant seriously, it feels too much for Bixby to have its own button.
The S8 is thin and incredibly light at 155g, but it feels sturdy and precisely made. The last time Samsung opted for a huge change of direction with its flagship, many of the basic features were lost in the transition. Thankfully, this isn't the case here. A microSD slot continues to sit tucked away with the nano-SIM, the criminally underrated Qi wireless charging is also present, and the device is IP68 water- and dust-resistant too, so it will survive a dunk in water for 30 minutes to depths of 1.5 metres.
Samsung has also retained the headphone jack; I'd be very surprised to hear that anyone thinks that's a bad idea. Apple's decision to remove a physical headphone connection looked like it might signal the demise of the 3.5mm jack, but Samsung has gone in the other direction, by including a pair of very good AKG wired buds in the box.
Like the recently launched LG G6, the front of the Samsung Galaxy S8 is almost all screen – and it's this that really makes the S8 stand out. Unlike with the G6, though, the display here melts into the sturdy metal rim.
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It's a much subtler curve than on the Galaxy S7 Edge; far more like the ill-fated Galaxy Note 7 in fact, which makes it a lot easier to use. Accidental touches were common on older Edge phones, with your hand hitting the screen when you were just holding the device, but I haven't experienced this with the S8. There's still a bit of extra reflection on this portion of the screen, but it's a small trade-off for such an eye-catching look.
As with any phone, though, not everything is perfect. Having such a big display and tiny bezel means there's no room for the fingerprint-sensing Home button to sit on the front.
Instead, it's on the back, next to the camera, and I hate it more every time I use it. First, it's tiny, meaning those times I actually hit it, it doesn't recognise my finger. But its real issue is the positioning; it's so unintuitive. You have to wiggle your finger around the camera – which, incidentally, throws up a message on opening the app to remind you to clean dirty smudges of the lens – and guess where the scanner is?
I don't understand why it isn't at the centre, as it is every other phone that has a rear-mounted fingerprint scanner. I suspect Samsung wanted to build it into the display, but just ran out of time.
I'm also not convinced about how well this phone will hold up after months and years of use. The addition of Gorilla Glass 5 on both the front and back should offer a little more protection, but I've ended up with both a cracked Galaxy S6 and Galaxy S7 after drops onto carpet from barely 2ft high. Hopefully, things will be different with the Galaxy S8 – but it feels like a delicate phone.
The strange position of the fingerprint scanner
The phone is also prone to showing fingerprints, but that's par for the course with this amount of glass and shiny metal. I'd go with the Midnight Grey colour option if you're really averse to smudges.
Not only has Samsung crafted what is, in my opinion, the best-looking phone out there, but it's slapped on the finest display too. Although, when you consider that Samsung has demonstrated the best screen tech for a number of years, this isn't really a surprise.
There's more to the display than just the curves. First, it has a new aspect ratio of 18.5:9, rather than 16:9. This means it's taller, essentially giving you more space in a body that isn't that much bigger than that of the S7. While the Galaxy S7 had a 5.1-inch display, the S8 bumps that to 5.8.
It sounds huge, but the phone itself is compact and Samsung is keen to point out that it can still be used comfortably in one hand. I wouldn't say that you can do quite 'everything' with one hand – especially reaching to pull down the notification tray – but this is far from a phablet.
The 5.8-inch display size is in some ways deceiving, however. Don't pick up this phone thinking it will have the same size of screen as the Nexus 6P or HTC U Ultra in a much smaller body. This is a tall screen and it's bigger than the S7, but it's much narrower than proper phablets. Width-wise, it's barely wider than an iPhone 7 and noticeably narrower than the Pixel XL.
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Like the majority of Samsung phones, the panel is AMOLED and has a slightly odd quad-HD+ 2960 x 1440 resolution. It's also 'Mobile HDR Premium' certified, so you'll be able to stream HDR (high dynamic range) shows from Amazon Prime and Netflix when those apps are updated. Arguably, HDR is the most important evolution in TV tech is recent years, offering better contrast and a brighter picture.
Colours are gloriously vivid, but it manages to avoid oversaturating brighter shades while still displaying the deepest black. Like the iPhone 7, it covers the DCI-P3 cinema-grade colour gamut for a much wider spectrum of colours, and in certain situations, the brightness can break the 1000-nit barrier. Considering most phones, including the LG G6, only go up to about 650 nits, this is seriously impressive stuff. In fact, this screen is so bright that I can keep it on 25% brightness and it's perfectly visible indoors.
In a move that's surely to try to stretch out the fairly small 3000mAh battery, when you unbox your Galaxy S8 it will be set to display at 1080p rather than quad-HD. Most people probably won't notice the difference – and that's fine. But I'd suggest hopping into Settings and switching things up. Downscaling can leave some apps with oddly big fonts and a softer look on texts and icons; considering you're spending £600/$700+ on a phone, you'll probably want it to look its best.
The Samsung Galaxy S8 is the best phone out there for media binging, and I've started picking it up instead of my iPad when I want to watch something on the go. There's a clever mode called 'Video Enhancer', which boosts the contrast and brightness in certain apps – Netflix, Prime Video, YouTube and so on – to give a pseudo-HDR effect. I wouldn't recommend keeping it on all the time, due to the increased battery drain, but it does make a fantastic display even better.
Why do you say its a new beginning, there is nothing new about that phone, xiaomi mi mix as more to offer than samsung s8, feels like more of the same to me!!!
There is one major problem that STILL exists with Samsung's way of thinking about audio from a mobile device. Here is a recent snip before the official launch of the Galaxy S8 taken from a video from China that among other things shows off a dummy unit of the Galaxy S8 next to the Galaxy S7 Edge and iPhone. Have a look at the picture. I have to laugh at it.
....Why are Samsung engineers forcing this upon users of their mobile devices? Why don't they just do the right thing, and provide two good front-facing stereo speakers on their device? Because they could, if they really wanted to. Till they do so, I recommend that you don't buy their mobile devices, and this includes their tablets that conform to the same stupid engineering principles.
I don't care about stereo, front facing etc. And many more are like me. I want loud and good sounding, I'll just turn on my big sound system or put on headphones. Btw, my S7 speaker is really loud.
Just like your black and white tv..
Some of us don't want to listen to tinny sounding built-in speakers. I have not heard a single mobile phone speaker that does not sound horrible to my ears. Having 2 of them just makes it twice as loud, and also twice as annoying.
Have you listened to the Sony Xperia XZ Premium?
I have, as a matter of fact. It might be slightly better than other phones, though the S7 has a bit more 'thump' to my ears. But it's still tinny.
There's only so much those small speakers can put out in terms of audio quality. They are certainly super crappy when compared to quality headphones.
I just don't enjoy music on a tiny speaker phone. Stereo or not. But plenty loud and clear even from the side, I'm sure.
Oh, btw, my sound system has 96kW! No tiny speakers here, hehe
Riiight. Care to name a few?
Looks were fantastic but I was expecting lot more from this s8 series but there's nothing new in it besides only Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 and Rom, it disappointed me very much.
Will it burn me?
You are correct that the energy consumption of a given screen is the same regardless of the resolution it is driven at since, as you say, it is lighting the same number of pixels to the same brightness. However a higher resolution will demand more energy to compute the image - simply because there are more pixels to compute. So the extra power draw is not from the surface of the display itself, but from the processors that push the image to the screen.
Since you will be physically unable to discern the difference above full HD anyway, why waste the battery pushing out stupidly high resolutions. It is available when it does make a difference, such as when it is strapped into a VR headset.
You do seem to have grasped that the lowering of the resolution is done in order to reduce battery consumption. What I don't understand is why you see saving the battery as a bad thing, to be urgently concerned about.
But what I totally fail to understand is your suggestion that Samsung is lying about battery endurance. There are always things you can do to reduce battery life. But if they are inappropriate then why do them. You could push the screen brightness to 100%, but most of the time that also is not appropriate, so measuring battery endurance at max brightness likewise would not be appropriate either.
Um, people might not share your view that front facing stereo speakers are a deal breaker. Personally I never listen to music on a phone at all. I do listen to podcasts of radio programmes. A single speaker is quite adequate, and since I lay my phone face down on the table whilst listening, front facing speakers would not excite me much.
But quite honestly, if you are hoping the speakers on a mobile device can ever reproduce the sound that comes out of a musical instrument - well, you just have to wonder why they don't make the musical instruments pocket sized in the first place.
So as you say, the S8 has battery saving technology not available on the S7. What I don't get is why you say that allowing the S8 to benefit from this technology means that Samsung are lying and it's a scandal and the world must be told. The whole point is to reduce battery consumption - that is why the tech is there, and it is something the previous model did not have, so it's progress. To say it is dishonest to use it is plain daft.
Believe me, I get it. The S7 is like a car with a fixed roofrack. The S8 has a removable roofrack. Obviously a roofrack harms fuel economy; you get better mileage by removing the roofrack. So the S8 runs with the roofrack removed (because it can), and the S7 runs with the roofrack attached because, well, its a fixed part of the structure, too bad. So the S8 has an advantage not available on the S7. The S8 goes further on a tank, because it exploits an advantage not available on the S7. Yes, I get it.
You believe they should both run with the roofrack attached to make it 'fair'. But it is not about 'fair', it's about fact.
You would have a valid point if running at 1440 made things look better. But it does not. Just like the roofrack, most of the time you will never notice it. It is there for occasional use. But the S7 must suffer it all the time regardless, to absolutely no benefit whatsoever, yet paying the cost. The S8 is not so hamstrung. Is that fair? Absolutely not - the S8 is a better, newer design able to exploit features not available to the S7. Of course it is not a fair comparison. But it represents the truth of the situation - you get better mileage with the S8.
What else were you expecting?
I would never use a phone speaker for listening to anything other than a phone call or message. There are a billion Bluetooth speakers in the world and I have more than I can even remember and including my car and a quality pair of Sony headphones (not ear buds) - why would anyone ever need to use the speakers for music? It just seems like a complete non-issue.
By the way, the battery stats are almost certainly at the default resolution, which is FHD+. See:
And if you want what seems like an informed post about the effects of resolution on battery life you could read LILMOE's post on Sammobile as below. I suspect you already have read that post, since the OE in that thread reads very much like your own hand.
For real. These people say "I was expecting something more/different" yet cannot seem to identify what they want. Perhaps they were hoping the new phone will wipe their behind after a bowel movement?
Which phone has two good front-facing stereo speakers? Please refrain from bringing up phones from 2013.
Well, this is the problem. It is impossible for phone manufacturers to predict what will fly when even most buyers dont truly know what will open their wallet. So we tend to get iterative improvements, and are expected to go gaga for trivial changes like a millimetre difference here and there to the sameold design.
Lovely design and fantastic screen resolution but like all previous Galaxies it's a case of all fur coats amd no knickers as 12 months down the line their phones become slow and unresponsive. Now I'll admit I'm tied into the Apple ecosystem and have the iPhone 7 ( but had the Galaxy 6 ) but if I was going down the Android road again the Pixel would be my number one choice having played around with both that and the Galaxy.
Still can't knock the Samsung for good looks and having the best screens on the market.
Did they move from PenTile to RGB subpixel arrangement?? Everybody is talking about the display yet no one mentions this...
My Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ is almost 2 and no slowing down.
cant wait for apple to own all later in the year!
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We offer observations on the human condition from a 22 year old mind trapped i an 82 year old body.
The sound of poverty is unrelenting noise.
Some wait with arms folded around waist.
In the hour before darkness one must assume that daylight will shortly arrive.
"Dollar short, day late," gee, I have not heard that expression in over thirty years. Today, we would welcome the dollar, late or not.
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Standards, Curriculum and learning: implications for professional development
Peacock, Judith A. (2004) Standards, Curriculum and learning: implications for professional development. In Bundy, Alan (Ed.) Australian and New Zealand Information Literacy Framework: principles, standards and practice, 2nd edition. Australian and New Zealand Institute for Information Literacy (ANZIIL), Adelaide, pp. 29-33.
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As higher education continues to evolve in step with new approaches to learning and teaching, so, too, is the role of the academic teaching librarian changing as they seek to develop, devise and implement systems and strategies which foster embedded learning of information literacy in the curriculum.
Comprehensive "curricula infusion‿ demands systemic and systematic change in the design and delivery of core curricula to ensure that the mastery of information literacy concepts and skills occurs in a sequential, hierarchical and developmental manner. In order to inform and lead systemic change, the academic librarian now needs to demonstrate a breadth and depth of knowledge and understanding across a broad range of educational and strategic arenas, including "learning theory, assessment and evaluation, pedagogical realignment, course reform, policy development and strategic planning, university-wide organisational infrastructure, print and online learning resources, teaching and learning partnerships and staff development‿. In addition, to facilitate quality outcomes and to work in effective collaborative partnership with academic colleagues, the academic teaching librarian must also be able to "deliver‿ in terms of teaching skills and learning facilitation.
Only when these librarians are equipped with the specialist knowledge and skills they require to fully engage with, and be integrated into, the learning and teaching processes of an organisation will conditions exist which support and foster a systemic process which enables and empowers students "as critical and independent users of information by embedding information literacy skills, as an "emerging skill‿ and key generic capability, into the whole learning experience.‿
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I swear the more ish I see the more I want to stay single...
Dear Texas Boy,
It was cute at first you calling me and texting in the morning to wish me a good day but now I feel like it's too much too soon. We have been friends and although you have never done me wrong I don't think a relationship is in the cards for us. Your in Texas and I've done the long distance thing twice and failed miserably (New York, Cali) I need somebody who is in my city to see if this can go the distance or not and this attraction is one sided (Mostly on your end and although physical attraction isn't everything I just don't think I feel it mentally or physically the way you do so far)
I rather be single, explore my options, and continue my education right now. Who knows what the road will bring but right now this is what's best. But I wish you well.
Dear New York Knotty Boy,
We are friends...and that is how it will stay!!!!! Don't mess up a good thing! We are not compatible, your too old,(ten years older is my limit) and your in Philly!!!! Once again no long distance relationship for me!!! But your a great guy, never done me wrong so I wish you well too!
*Pissed off rant*
You on the other hand are a piece of ****. You got drunk the other night, grabbing the asses of other Women (Me included) and asking girls to sit in your lap while your saved Christian Wife and mother of your two babies watched. She is a beautiful woman and she doesn't deserve this. She just gave birth a month ago and this is what you do! I hope she leaves your ass and finds a real man! You deserve to be alone , miserable and robbed for child support!
Little Mama wake up, I understand you are trying to save your marriage and make it work in the name of the Lord but this is abuse! Don't walk...RUN!!!!
I'm staying single. Just moved into my 1st place to live alone and I want to start a Masters program in January.
Don't have time for long distance relationships that aren't guaranteed to work and I have blocked all the forgettable and regrettable ones so they can't come to my doorstep with their bull.
Gonna be single and loving it until I see a man who is worth my time, where there is a mutual attraction and not afraid of the possibilities. Someone who is within my city limits too! Lol


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Doctor 'surprised' so many voted nay at such an early stage
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The Quebec legislative assembly approved euthanasia Bill 52 "in principle" by an 84-26 vote Oct. 29, but euthanasia opponents see positive signs.
Dr. Marc Beauchamp, president of Living with Dignity, said the vote "was a very pleasant surprise" despite the bad news that the majority of Quebec legislators assembly members had supported the bill.
"We didn't expect that many people would oppose the bill at such an early stage of the process," said the Montreal-based orthopedic surgeon. The grassroots coalition had expected perhaps five or 10.
The minority Parti Quebecois government and the Quebec Solidaire party both forced their members to support the bill, but a majority of Liberals, who allowed a free vote, voted against it.
"A lot of people are starting to feel the unease of being part of such a project," said Dr. Beauchamp.
The vote represented clear proof that claims made by the Parti Quebecois that the whole political class is behind Bill 52 are "totally false," Dr. Beauchamp said. He noted Minister Veronique Hivon "has been working very hard to convince people to follow a consensus that was already there. She pretended the whole legislative assembly was behind the project," he said. "We knew it was false. Until yesterday we did not have any proof of that."
Dr. Beauchamp said he expects opposition to rise. While 26 publicly oppose the bill, many are holding their final decision "because they want to see what goes on with the analysis of the law point by point."
Alex Schadenberg, executive director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition (EPC), noted many assembly members had said they did not like the way Bill 52 was worded, so the government "took that off the table and said you could vote on principle."
"Eighty-four to 26 is nothing to celebrate," he said. "This is still an unconstitutional bill. The government has to realize this bill will be challenged by the government, but also by several physicians' groups that are talking about challenging it."
"Many have realized that if adopted, Bill 52 will be automatically challenged in court because it is illegal and unconstitutional," said the Physicians' Alliance for the Total Refusal of Euthanasia (PATRE) in an Oct. 30 statement. "This would at the same time force a useless and counterproductive federal-provincial confrontation."
"The fact is the division and confusion still prevail, and when the confusion clears up, the number of opponents to the medical murder increases," PATRE said. "Nearly 500 Quebec physicians have signed our statement, and thousands of others support us."
Dr. Beauchamp said the Parti Quebecois has crossed "many red lines" with Bill 52. Merging euthanasia into palliative care is "ethically totally unacceptable," he said. But people are finding out the euphemism "medical aid in dying" really means "forcing medical staff to give lethal injections."
Everyone wants to help dying people and people who are suffering, he said, but the majority of people are uneasy and some have a very negative, normal reaction against promoting "homicidal gestures."
"I am sure many deputies in Quebec are starting to feel that they would participate in something that will be a homicide, medical murder," he said. "They won't want to be involved in that."
"Medical aid in dying is lethal injection and that is medical murder," he said. "Of course linking it with palliative care makes it less obvious."
On the eve of the vote, an Abington Research poll commissioned by LifeCanada, a national educational pro-life organization, showed 47 per cent of Quebec residents said Bill 52 needs further study, while 14 per cent opposed it outright. A minority of 35 per cent were in favour.
The poll exposed problems with the wording "medical aid in dying." Before these words were defined, only 30 per cent answered "correctly" that the words involve "a doctor giving a patient a lethal injection," said an Oct. 28 LifeCanada news release.
"This poll shows the Quebec population has not given its informed consent to 'medical aid in dying,'" said Natalie Sonnen, executive director of LifeCanada.
"Contrary to what may have been assumed, the people have not given the government a mandate to proceed with such a monumental change in medical practice. The representatives of the people should reconsider before they take this step."
Sonnen said polls are citing strong support for the bill. "Once people understand and think about the implications of 'medical aid in dying' they back away from supporting Bill 52."
After respondents were told Bill 52 is based on a Belgian law and that a study showed one-third of those given lethal injections were killed without their consent, 83 per cent "expressed concern" this "might happen in Quebec," the release said.
Schadenberg said the LifeCanada poll showed a big shift in opinion when respondents were told what "medical aid in dying" means. "They start realizing it's not what the media has been telling us."
There has been a constant barrage of pro-euthanasia and pro-assisted-suicide talk in the news media, and that has influenced people significantly, he said.
"This is far from done," Schadenberg said. "The government might amend the bill."
"If they are going to try to legalize euthanasia, the federal government has the jurisdiction. They don't," he said. "In the end it will have to go to the court. The courts should be upholding the purview of the federal government."
There are indications from the federal government that it would fight this, he said. The Harper government doesn't "want to be known as the government that brought in euthanasia to Canada.
"If they leave Quebec alone, [Premier] Kathleen Wynne is talking about Ontario next. Everything's on the line with how they deal with Quebec."


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B2B Lead Management Market Heats Up
Posted by Laura Ramos on March 20, 2008
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[Posted by Laura Ramos]
Since the start of this year, I've been receiving a boatload of briefing requests from companies wanting to show me their lead generation and management solutions. Most recently, Marketo just announced their lead management solution. While honored, I also find reviewing these solutions confusing because there is a lot of variation in the product presentations and overlap between categories. And it's not clear to me if lead management automation deserves to be a separate category or to be subsumed as part of the broader marketing platform. (I know Suresh Vittal includes lead management as a component of his enterprise marketing platform. But does the B2B need the same platform components as B2C?) Here's how I see it and I'd like to hear your views as well.
There are four primary buckets of technology solutions aimed at solving the "how do I make lead generation activities more effective?" problem:
1) Web analytics – typically the stronghold of companies like Coremetrics, Omniture, and WebTrends, the analytics area bleeds over into lead management as companies go online to generate demand. Many of the marketing automation companies have added some fairly sophisticated analytics to monitor prospect's online behavior and help marketers qualify and score them based on Web site visits, registrations, and downloads.
2) Database services – powerhouses like Dun&Bradstreet, Harte-Hanks, Acxiom, Equifax, infoUSA, and Merkle dominate this category, but B2B marketers tend to think of them more as list generators than providers of a broad spectrum of strategic data management to direct mail execution. My point: B2B marketers are looking elsewhere for help generating demand.
3) Marketing automation – lead by firms like Aprimo, Unica, Oracle/Siebel and SAS, this category is at the core of what Forrester calls the Marketing Technology Backbone. The problem is: these platforms are heavy on campaign design, execution, and reporting and light on lead management.
4) "Pure play" lead management – this group is lead by Eloqua, but there are a LOT of firms throwing their hat into this ring including Vtrenz, Hubspot, Manticore, Market2Lead, Marketo, LoopFuse, einsof, iHance, Precience, among many others. (That I'm sure to hear about them since I know I've missed adding many to this list.)
Here's the problem. There are at least 4 amorphous groups of solution providers also setting their sights on this space:
1) Lead generation services or tools – Because this category contains both service providers (that look more like agencies or telesales outsourcers) and software as a service vendors, there are probably more than I could possibly name. Recently, I've heard from companies like Bulldog Solutions, InsideView, Jigsaw, netFactor, Reachforce, PointClear, Genius, Leads360, among others. Folks, at less than 20 employees, many of you look more like boutique agencies than true technology providers. Positioning yourselves as "lead management" does not help differentiate what you REALLY do.
2) Email services – Julie Katz at Forrester writes about this group. The lead management vendors are developing one-to-one email capabilities that help sales people be more consistent and productive. In B2B, it's not about batch-and-blast acquisition as much as it is about using email to continue a conversation.
3) Search engine marketing services providers – Shar VanBoskirk covers this market, but I've found companies like Reprise Media, IMPAQT, iCrossing and iProspect doing a lot more to help B2B marketers understand how to turn search optimization or paid clicks into qualified leads. Tools that analyze who's clicking – and help B2B marketers make heads or tails out of Google's analytics – are bleeding over into the lead management space.
4) Online portals – I know, this is a broad category. But I'm thinking about firms like Business.com, TechTarget, Buyerzone, and a ton of others who syndicate content, host catalogs, attract eyeballs, and offer to "sell" these leads.
Whew! Lots of stuff, huh? So here's the two big questions: When do you use which? (or a combination of the choices?) And will the lead management market continue to grow in addition to – or despite – the plethora of offerings hovering around it?
My bet is on lead management growth because B2B marketers need to fully embrace online marketing as their primary way to engage and educate buyers. They need a platform that fits together with their CRM/SFA systems but separately helps them to identify and sort the best leads from the rest and to nurture those not yet ready to buy. B2B marketers also need systems that help them align sales activity and marketing messages, monitor marketing's impact on the pipeline, and close the loop on closed deals. I think the lead management platforms hit directly on these problems and will shift marketing's role from filling the pipeline to managing the customer lifecycle.
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re: B2B Lead Management Market Heats Up
Comment from Jon Miller on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 15:57
Laura -- Well said! There are at least 100,000 B2B companies that could use this type of solution, yet across all the lead management vendors mentioned there are less than 1,000 customers total. This market has a lot of growth ahead of it!
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Comment from Tim Wilson (not verified) on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 18:05
This is a great overview of this amorphous, evolving, dynamic space. Emphasis on "dynamic." B2B lead marketing is evolving incredibly fast, much more due to the changing expectations and behaviors of purchasers than because of proactive innovation by marketers. So, there are a lot of resources going into trying to figure out "the formula" at the same time that the underlying chemistry is changing. Exciting times.At the same time, some of what is going on when it comes to different types of companies encroaching on the territory traditionally owned by other types of companies is not new -- it's basic "broaden the market" economics at work.As an example: marketing automation tools like Eloqua, and web analytics tools like Omniture and WebTrends, work from the same fundamental data source: Javascript-based page tags on web pages. Now, the former type of tool has traditionally (and it's a brief tradition!) been geared towards *processes* -- they take the page tag data and tie it to individual people so that they can communicate with those people directly and effectively. Web analytics packages, on the other hand, have traditionally focussed on the *content* and *aggregate behavior* -- looking for patterns of how people use a site, but not really caring about the identification of specific people.A light bulb went off in the world of web analytics vendors a few years ago -- "Hey, we could track individuals and start playing in that operational process space. We can broaden our available market." The reverse has not happened as much -- Eloqua's Marketing materials claim they have "web analytics," but it's pretty rudimentary stuff, and I don't think they are planning to ever really go after a true web analytics offering.My money is on the continued evolution of all of these types of tools and services. That's a much better bet than a company that tries to do it all, which will result in unusable, ineffective bloatware.
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Comment from Laura Ramos on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 18:34
Tim, thanks for the comments. (And say 'hi' to Rob and the rest of the Bulldog folks for me.)Your example of the differences between analytics tied to an individual's online behavior and analytics that monitor aggregate activity is exactly what worries me. While called "web analytics" in both cases, the capabilities are not the same, nor are they intended to be. Rather than try to refine the definition, I challenge providers to think about how to talk about and demonstrate their unique differences in ways that are more compelling to business users than just overlapping tech-talk.The online medium gives plenty of new opportunity - video, rich interative demos, comparator tools, etc. -- to SHOW the differences, features and benefits rather than talk about them in general terms -- like "Web analytics." My bigger point -- is this about broadening the market or casting about to find the right combination of capabilites that solves the maximum amount of maketing practioner pain?Just to be contrarian (I'm an analyst, forgive me), my money is on the firms who find more engaging ways to demonstrate the unique value of their tools/services AND get their customers to advocate using similar voices and consistent themes. Again, thanks for the dialogue.
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Comment from Tim Wilson (not verified) on Sat, 03/22/2008 - 09:00
I think you're putting your money in the right place -- on companies that can clearly articulate what they do and why...and with a "glossary" that sticks and resonates.The tools/technology area seems like it's farther along on that front than the services/solutions area (despite my web analytics example), IMHO.The good news? Plenty of good blog fodder for analysts for the foreseeable future -- this whole area can use all the help it can get in trying to figure it out!
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Comment from Henry Bruce (not verified) on Mon, 03/24/2008 - 17:26
Where do begin. Laura, I have been following Elana's and your dialogue on this space/issue for the past two years. You ladies were the first analysts (along with John Neeson over at SiriusDecisions) to get on the lead mgmt vs lead generation soapbox and I could not agree with you more. To the "When do you use which" question, I think your answer lies with your whole "customer-centric marketing theme Forrester has been driving now for almost 3 years. Companies bought into becoming more customer centric will naturally migrate to processes that nurture markets and target audiences vs the old one and done model - mostly because they have an org structure (and "right" marketing folks) focused on how best to find and penetrate their best target markets. They actually have their sales and marketing orgs aligned and working together. Salesforce.com actually works well when there are marketing automation tools and processes feeding it with filtered and sales ready leads vs the other way around. How many of those briefings you listen to from the tools vendors label their tools/capabilities as "best practices"?To the market growth question, I believe we are still at the start of this market (whatever acronym or category you want to use). I spent 25 years in the enterprise apps space, but its still about the people and process (best practices) and less about the SW products/tools. We can all agree like bobble-head dolls that "scientific" methods deliver huge results in sales and marketing processes (more leads, more conversions, more deals, etc), but unless you have senior management bought into processes like lead nurturing that deliver results OVER TIME (more than 90 day horizons), then it does not matter what tools you use. IF they have sales reps twiddling their thumbs, they start screaming for "more leads" and don't care how you get them. Regardless the relative strengths and weaknesses of the various tools and capabilities, you better be focused on "quick win" programs and processes or the VP of Marketing will be in the hot seat.I agree with your push to have marketing's role shift to owning/managing the customer life cycle. Problem is that not enough marketers really know or understand the problem their company supposedly solves from their customer's perspective - they lack relevant field experience. Until they spend more time in the field (like trying their hand at selling for a year or two), B2B marketers will not know how or when to use what tools and how to truly align with sales.
re: B2B Lead Management Market Heats Up
Comment from Laura Ramos on Mon, 03/24/2008 - 23:50
Henry, thank you for the thoughtful and perceptive comment. Elana started Forrester's B2B marketing research and I had the honor of taking over this mantel from her two years ago. Thank you for following our work on the topic of lead management and contributing to this dialogue.Customer-centricity is essential to lead management maturity. As you point out, the best B2B marketers are those who can profile their target markets based on needs, behavior, motivations, and aspirations, not just by firmographic data or according to the geography or industry in which they fall.Striking abalance between the quick-win, "what have you done for me this quarter?" reality and the need to build longer-term engagement is a tough job. Sales needs to truly buy-in that fewer leads of higher quality is what they really want from marketing. Successful VPs make this transition in stages and use early successes (sales results aligned to a specific territory, solution, or vertical)-- and much tighter involvement with inside sales -- to show the theory works. Constant communication about marketing's contribution to the pipeline is essential. As long as sales is quarterly-driven, the need to ring this bell never ends.Spending time in the field is a great idea but generally impractical to execute. Many product and headquarters-based marketers come up through the marcom, PR, or product management ranks. Their risk/reward profiles make them poor fits for sales and they wouldn'tlast a year in the field. Smaller firms typically don't have the resource bandwidth to make this rotation feasible either. Tying compensation (in part) to the success of field-based initiatives is one way I've seen VPs make marketers accountable for customer insight and for implementing sales tools that work in practice. I say "in part" because too much emphasis on the pipeline leave little room to cultivate more strategic and innovative behaviors. Thanks again.
re: B2B Lead Management Market Heats Up
Comment from Henry Bruce (not verified) on Tue, 03/25/2008 - 08:23
You are right about how best to become more customer-sensitive and aware via field experience. The PR, MARCOM, product mgmt background is great for program development and execution, but does not necessarily prepare them on HOW to align with sales and customers. Its probably more of an attitude thing where thinking and acting more like a sales rep would serve all marketers in their desire to "feel the love" from the sales.Keep up the dialogue because your team has the right focus, themes, etc. I will stay tuned.
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Comment from Andrew Findlater (not verified) on Tue, 03/25/2008 - 12:29
Laura, very interesting insights, thank you. Two developments seem to be coming together here - a) adoption of lead management platforms and b) increased focused on content marketing. From your perspective, is anyone combining both well for suppliers? What about those in your category 4) the online portals - they have content production expertise.Andrew
re: B2B Lead Management Market Heats Up
Comment from Laura Ramos on Wed, 03/26/2008 - 00:02
Andrew, right now I am not detecting any major convergence. Talk to Kim Albee at einsof, Jeff Ernst at Kadient (formerly Pragmatech), or the folks at Salesforce.com who manage Salesforce Content. All are tackling solutions that link lead development workflow with unstructured content management aimed specifically at helping markeing to make sales more productive.The online portals I'm thinking about in 4)above are really in the lead generation game, and (at best)syndicate content toward this end. I'm not seeing a lot of primary production expertise.
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Comment from Steve Gershik (not verified) on Wed, 03/26/2008 - 21:20
What a great conversation this is becoming. Thanks, Laura, for initiating it.What Henry brings up, above, is critical. Too often, people (IT, sales, marketing, whomever) rush to buy technology which appears to solve their business issue, without taking the time to lay the groundwork for a successful implementation.It's all about people, process and technology, in that order.Until you have the correct people in your organization, bought in and in alignment, you may as well not both pursuing any kind of lead management solution for your company. Chances are, you will fail.Once you have the right people in place, you need to start with a conversation. Time after time, we see companies with failed implementations with other marketing automation companies show up on our doorstep. And the biggest culprit: they didn't take the time to map what their own business processes in advance of going shopping for a piece of software.Finally, you're ready for technology, but buying is not without its challenges. We marketers are good at creating campaigns. We're good at coming up with programs. We're exceptionally creative. One challenge many of us have is that we're poor buyers of business software. I posted a bunch of questions to get marketers started on my blog at http://theinnovativemarketer.blogs.com/ideas/2008/01/seven-questions.htmlI think the lead management market will continue to grow, as marketers, and marketing, matures and changes to meet the need to recognize and interpret our prospects' digital body language.
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Comment from Julianne Hancock (not verified) on Wed, 04/02/2008 - 23:25
What a timely discussion. I head a marketing department and was recently recruited to find 1) better quality leads and 2) a CRM solution, both to fit a number of different sales groups - some with different key demographics or different products (all B2B financial services), and with a number of different sales venues (I have a telesales floor with 40 relationship managers doing a substantial amount of business strictly by telephone, regionally based vice presidents who visit clients in person, etc.)Currently, we only have on lead management solution, which is used for our direct sales folks in the telesales group - a D&B database with contacts for businesses over x amount in revenue loaded into Goldmine. However with an upcoming IT migration, we saw the opportunity to expand what we are using.I am fortunate in that my senior management is willing to try anything, recognizing it can only get better. We do have access to MS CRM, but I think that is too intense of an application for the call center folks, but probably would be beneficial to the people in remote offices, I could look at Goldmine again, and then there is the issue of leads - our licensing was negotiated years ago and we are getting a decent deal, but expanding the parameters or usage levels seems to stump the folks at D&B and at Hoovers (who are owned by D&B).The worst part about this is that there doesn't seem to be common language about these products, even between competing vendors. Lead farming? Direct marketing lists? Prospect lists? Some of our users would need extensive credit analysis and up-to-date company information like Hoover's website provides, but a lot of my users - I'd prefer to prequalify the data and dump it into a database, giving them a phone number, basics on the company and a contact. How do you differentiate between these two in conversation? Even the vendors don't know - although it can mean the difference of $20,000/month and $70,000 a month for the licensing we are talking.I decided to turn to the CRM folks - consultants, vendors, even the guy who wrote the Dummies guide on a CRM program, and even they seemed unsure.Luckily I have time on my side, but I do want to get down the right path. Eventually I could see our partners expanding to help us with other venues for lead generation, but at this point, I can't find anyone remotely credible who can explain the terminology of the industry and point me in the right direction of solid vendors who can handle quality data for $100M+ companies.Any consultants out there?
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Comment from Andrew Wyatt (not verified) on Sun, 04/06/2008 - 08:18
B2B lead generation/management is the new hotspot, thus good to see a classification as this market is growing fast.The question is what is required?Email mailing campaigns, pushing B2B decision makers into visiting a website seems of a different era. I always wondered how to get timing and content right for the addressee.In most B2B cases, the first sign of interest is a visit to the website of the company.The integration of enhanced web analytics (identifying the visitor, qualifying the visitor as lead or not) and CRM is likely the best next solution for lead generation, as this method valorises the efforts of the company in pull marketing.
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Comment from Jennifer Clark (not verified) on Thu, 04/10/2008 - 00:01
Does the B2B Marketing Platform need the same platform components as B2C is an interesting question because it is a yes in some areas and no in other areas. Developing B2B business is much more about solution selling or managing the complex sale and so I lean towards B2B lead generation and conversion to sales is about a multi-channel dialogue that is tracked and nurtures using an integrated Web site, web properties and CRM solution.I recently joined a SaaS company focused on delivery of Websites, Portals and demand generation tools that front end or extend Salesforce CRM (http://www.cubiccompass.com/salesforceintegration.aspx). I have been in and out of enterprise software through Act!, Seibel and all the other CS SFA apps, the marketing and channel management lead tools of the Web world and now believe in the ideas espoused by the "Big Switch", but through it all there still remains an employee facing CRM app like Salesforce, NetSuite, Sugar CRM and the customer facing applications like Website or Web properties.The Web site or Web properties are the center of the online marketing and they are disconnected from the CRM system and these - lead applications, campaign management or analytics apps you reference bridge the gap. The problem is that they become just another island of data and another application to manage. Let's face it marketing goes before sales and the two functions need the same system.This is where Salesforce just rocks. It is such a good platform for CRM and one that can be extended with the vendor solutions from the App exchange. Their campaign management as a platform is great and what you can do without an IT person is impressive, but it needs to be augmented with an email marketing too, landing pages, tracking of web activity in response to campaigns, lead scoring etc. So... is B2B platform different, yes and no - I think you have to have the CRM system as the Marketing backbone and the Website and Marketing automation tools integrated with the CRM system. There is better user experience, one console, and better leverage and the ability to create, extend and track a dialogue across multiple channels. You don't need this as much in B2C you need more of a scalable platform with a huge drip email engine, web pages and analytics. Interesting question and one I love to ponder.
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Comment from Michael A. Brown (not verified) on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 15:05
Hi Laura! Terrific post and comments. May I please add mine.First, lead management is something an organization DOES (or not.) It is not something it buys. (Same goes for CRM.) Most of my clients have systems in one or more of the categories you describe, but their behaviors in lead management vary widely. For example, some act as if lead management is little more than establishing an e-mail newsletter schedule. Others (generally more successful) know that technology is the tool, not the process. Genuine lead management takes human attention, intellect, and a cohesive communication sequence.Second, lead management too often occurs without or in spite of the prospect. That is, the would-be vendor determines when, how, and how often to "nurture." My clients do much better by actually asking prospects their preferences for those things.Michael A. Brown
re: B2B Lead Management Market Heats Up
Comment from Laura Folio (not verified) on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 15:54
Laura -Thanks for starting up this dialogue... I work for a company called Pardot, which offers a service similar to Marketo. One of the biggest challenges in our emerging space is lack of awareness and lack of feedback. It is fantastic to hear people talking about this topic and sharing what they've seen out there.Thanks again!Laura
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Comment from Will Schnabel (not verified) on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 18:36
Laura, speaking of interactive, two-way dialog, this string is great!I wanted to comment on the idea that successful lead generation requires people and process first, before leveraging technology. We all agree that technology alone does not solve issues in a broken process or with the wrong people. However, it is antiquated mentality for organizations to take a step back, re-evaluate their strategy, process, and organization before jumping into lead generation solutions. That was the mantra that organizations like Accenture and IBM Consulting used to request large service contracts to "ensure success" of their implementation projects. Like Michael Brown says above, Lead Management is what B2B marketing & sales organizations are doing every day. Not that all processes are perfect, but there IS a process, and there ARE people involved in that process. The trick is to know how to improve. And this is where SaaS solutions have dramatically changed the game.What Salesforce and other leading on-demand platforms have taught the world is that it is OK to jump in and use a solution, even at the departmental level, to identify weaknesses in a process, make improvements, and begin seeing success. Since the best solutions are easy to deploy, change, and adjust, they can be used to test new process ideas. Results can be tested in days, not years, and changes to the process and technology can be made hand-in-hand. I believe this is the reason Salesforce.com single-handedly rescued the CRM industry, and why a whole new breed of System Integrators have emerged, with agile approaches to implementations. They have proven that it really is OK to start small, and grow, since benefits can be derived even from small improvements in a company's current process. I wrote about a similar topic a couple of weeks ago (http://blogs.vtrenz.com/vtrenz/2008/03/it-doesnt-requi.html), and am encouraged by the current adoption of easy-to-use, straightforward applications to solve our biggest marketing challenge, generating qualified leads.To your main questions, I believe the industry will continue to grow rapidly, as there is a real pain, and marketing automation solutions are a real 'aspirin' for improving lead management. However, as companies move down the maturity model for optimized lead generation, they will require extended marketing capabilities to solve the next pain on their list, just like sales organizations did with SFA. Pure play Lead Management solutions will need to accommodate these changes in order to survive.I'll be keeping a close watch on your perspectives as this unfolds. Thanks Laura.
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Comment from null on Wed, 04/30/2008 - 13:13
Laura, great article and very insightful comments from your readers.I completely agree with Steve's comment that the true solution to the lead management problem is a combination of people, process and (then) technology. I have managed customer implementations at Market2Lead since it's inception and have recently taken on the responsibility of our own Lead Management process. Most companies tend to put technology in front of the process and hope for success. We all know the obvious outcome.I would like to add another problem/challenge that I have seen with most customers I have worked with and the Prospects that I talk to. The topic is ROI measurement of Marketing initiatives. This problem is very intriguing and in my humble opinion existing processes and solutions are either rudimentary or broken. There are so many studies that talk about the need for CMOs and VPs of Marketing to quantitatively measure the postive impact of Marketing on a company's top line. In my view, the foundation of an ideal solution hinges on bi-directional information flow between the Marketing process and the Sales process. Most solutions I know of talk about providing sales real time visibility into a Lead's response to Marketing activities. I have not seen or read much about the ability of a Marketing Automation solution to extract Lead follow up information and the resulting opportunity information into the Marketing database and allow the VP of Marketing to measure the true ROI of Marketing. I would love to hear your opinion and your reader's views on this topic.
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Comment from Keith Burwell (not verified) on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 21:24
One of the main reasons there is such disdain and lack of enthusiasm by many for lead management is that the prevailing "concept" of lead management envisions an Excel or Goldmine type spreadsheet/ dashboard that is either 1) too complex for your staff to engage or 2)so open ended that it leaves all the control to the individual, ultimately proving the theory "garbage in, garbage out".I'm the VP of Business Development at Kaleidico, and we have focused our attention, based on years of lead buying and managing,on creating a standardized process in our lead management system that everyone adheres to. Solutions can create bells, whistles, and tassles hanging off the side, but at the end of the day, the technology should drive the discipline, it shouldn't still rely on the user. A solution diminishes when 40 sales people, each with their own "pet" process, try to maximize YOUR lead spend in their own way. That is not usable data. That is buying a solution that doesn't get used properly, then gets put aside as a failed implementation. A "real" lead management system defines the process, puts structure around activity, and uniformly measures across organizations to build quantitative numbers that have sticking power. That's where Kaleidico's bet is at.
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Comment from Matt Massey (not verified) on Wed, 05/14/2008 - 12:19
This is a great topic and I'm enthused that so many others have commented. From everyone's comments it really brings it home for me that we are truly in the infancy of the lead (insert word here) software age. Essentially, I believe we're all little white mice at this point of the industry's development.From a services company that focuses on helping companies establish their sales and marketing infrastructure, then supporting their lead generation activities, maybe I can offer a unique perspective on where this is all going.There are a pile of software offerings out there right now. Too many with too little differentiation. Over the next few years, I believe we are going to see a consolidation of companies and some stabilization in the market offerings.This process will effectively level the playing field and lessen the HUGE confusion for marketers trying to evaluate the "right fit" solution for their organization.But hold up a second. I'll be brave and say that the Software Isn't The Solution.Steve Gershik is right! Companies need to put the infrastructure in place and refocus the organizational mindset, then define their process for tactical execution of marketing programs, THEN make the investment in technology to support tactical execution of marketing programs.I believe the companies that will succeed in the lead gen/demand creation world will come from one of two verticals.1.Software Companies that offer a one stop CRM,LEAD MANAGEMENT,MARKETING AUTOMATION,DATA AGGREGATION/ANAYLYTICS.2. Services Companies that understand the infrastructure and process pieces - then as channel partners for the software vendor will implement the appropriate technology to support the infra and process components.The services play for my two cents is where it's at!We work primarily with technology companies here in Canada. In virtually every instance, the primary challenge within the organizations we talk to is bandwidth - not tech bandwidth, people bandwidth.There just isn't enough time in the day for marketing and sales folks to build the vision, the infra, the programs, evaluate the software vendor offerings and implement all of the above. This situation is repeatable small, medium and large organizations. That's why I believe the outsource model is where to place your bets.One last comment; As marketers, we can put all of the automation and tools in place to support our organization's sales and marketing objectives, but, at the end of the day, I truly believe that people buy from people and we can't discount the value of REAL human interaction as part of every sales and marketing process. No matter how good the technology gets.
re: B2B Lead Management Market Heats Up
Comment from Fred Yee (not verified) on Wed, 05/21/2008 - 18:15
Laura,I'm with ActiveConversion, one of the pure play B2B lead management companies. This is a great post, which has also generated great comments.We've been doing this for 3 years and we have been slotted by prospects into each of these categories at one time or another. As a result, we've previously had a problem ourselves defining it, and I think this really helps to categorize 'lead generation' for people.I also agree very much so with the posters that the process is as important as the technology. Just as a CRM is no use without current data, a lead management system doesn't generate result without good sales followup.Most, if not all the people in this posting understand that and the use of the technology, because they are the early adopters. The real key will be educating the large mass of marketers that are doing things the traditional way, which also means traditional processes. Those processes don't work well online. It's like the Meatball Sundae that Seth Godin talks about. But make no mistake, this is the future - because the old way is annoying for the prospects and for sellers.
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Comment from James Obermayer (not verified) on Sun, 11/09/2008 - 16:19
My how things are progressing. What passes for lead management today is everything from a CRM tool which may or may not have campaign management activated to email marketing programs that insist (some with good reason) that they are now a lead management company.While giving speeches on Lead Management topics I find that there are always attendees from CRM and various software providers that stand up wildly waving their arms that they are the ultimate provider for lead management services. Unfortunately, it is still most often a combination of these providers that offers the best solution for inquiry management, ie., a system that nurturing inquiries (emarketing and telemarketing), distributes the "leads" to various complicated sales distribution systems (outside direct, inside direct, dealers and distributions, etc.) and provides a closed loop system for measurement. We have 142 articles on the Sales Lead Management Association web site that covers the many sub-topics of managing inquiries. Stop by and look at the titles (check lists are popular) and join (free) to download.
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Comment from Perry (not verified) on Thu, 11/27/2008 - 20:44
I hope that business people would learn to realize that these applications can only do so much for them. At the end of it all, a solid process of tracking and nurturing leads should be in place. The principle doesn't change either, whether we're talking about education leads, internet leads, debt leads, and a lot more.
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|Scientific classification
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Bangia is an extant genus of division Rhodophyta that grows in marine or freshwater habitats. Bangia has small thalli with rapid growth and high reproductive output, and exhibits behavior characteristic of r-selected species. The plants are attached by down-growing rhizoids, usually in dense purple-black to rust-colored clumps. The chloroplasts of Bangia, like others in the division Rhodophyta, contain chlorophyll a and sometimes chlorophyll d, as well as accessory pigments such as phycobilin pigments and xanthophylls. Depending on the relative proportions of these pigments and the light conditions, the overall color of the plant can range from green to red to purple to grey; however, the red pigment, phycoerythrin, is usually dominant.
Bangia atropurpurea (Maertens ex Roth) C.Agardh.[1]
Bangia is a red alga that arises from a discoid holdfast and short stipe consisting of the extensions of rhizoidal cells. Bangia has unbranched, erect thalli forming initially uniseriate filaments becoming multiseriate at maturity. The plant is composed of filiform, unbranched cylinders of cells embedded in a firm gelatinous matrix. The cell contains a stellate chloroplast with prominent pyrenoid, as well as single thylakoids (characteristic of division Rhodophyta). The growth of Bangia is diffuse and intercalary, and each cell is quadrate to rectangular in shape. Primary pitt connections are absent in all but the conchocelis stage.
Bangia grows in freshwater or in marine habitats, usually forming dense clumps or mats, and occur throughout the intertidal area and subtidally to the maximum depth at which benthic algae occur. The plants are usually attached to a solid substratum (rock or shell), but can also occur as epiphytes attached to other algae.
Marine populations of Bangia in the Atlantic Ocean are common food for the periwinkle Littorina littorea.
Species of Bangia undergo a heteromorphic alternation of generation life cycle in which the haploid generation is dominant. Reproduction can be either sexual or asexual; sexual plants occur mainly during the cold season of the year, while at other times the thalli often bear monosporangia only. Bangia, like all Rhodophytes, lack motile sperm and so depend upon water currents to transport their gametes to the trichogyne (receptive area of the female gamete or carpogonium).
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Silicified peritidal carbonate rocks have been found off Somerset Island, arctic Canada, which contain fossils of well-preserved bangiophyte red algae (Bangiomorpha). Because these fossils have multiseriate filaments derived by longitudinal divisions from uniseriate filaments, taxonomists believe that these fossils are related to Bangia. This resolution distinguished these fossils from other pre-Ediacaran eukaryotes and contributes to evidence that multicellular algae diversified before the Ediacaran radiation of large animals.
Related genera[edit]
Bangiadulcis and Pseudobangia were previously thought to be part of the genus Bangia. However, it has since been discovered that these plants can only undergo asexual reproduction through the formation of archaeosporangia. In fact, sexual reproduction has so far only been recorded in Bangia, Porphyra, Erythrotrichia and Erythrocladia.
The genus was named after Niels Hofman Bang, the patron of Hans Christian Lyngbye, who described the genus.
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- Butterfiled, Nicholas J; Knoll, Andrew H; Sweet, Keene. "A Bangiophyte Red Alga from the Proterozoic of Arctic Canada." Science, New Series, Vol. 250, No. 4977, 1990. pp 104–107
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- Garbary, David, J; Hansen, Gayle I; Scagel, Robert F. "The Marine Algae of British Columbia and Northern Washington: Division Rhodophyta (Red Algae), Class Bangiophyceae." Dept. of Botany, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada. 1980. pp 139–142 and 164-165


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Great beginning to your blog site, Cor. Really nice!
Your photography is great, too. The shots from the festival are cool, and I especially like the one of the sun behind the tower in SF. Nice job.
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Getting into Mexico City was no easy task. I managed to pick rush hour. Stupid, Cory. Stupid. Once I hit the outskirts of the city, it probably took me an hour and a half to find the hostel. Mexico City is a maze to those who don't live there, and it's filled with aggressive city drivers. Imagine driving in San Francisco, another place where driving is very social, and you've really got to communicate and respond to the actions of all of the cars around you constantly, but then take it's 3 lane streets, and make them into 8 lane streets, and you've got Mexico City. Exhibit any fear and every driver on the road will do anything they can to make your world a nightmare. You've got to be merciless to drive here. Defend your lane, and growl with your throttle when threatened. In San Francisco I had the upper hand at all times when driving my car. One look at my piece of shit car, and everyone knew that they were the ones with something to lose, and promptly got out of my way. In Mexico City, almost everyone else has that advantage. I was lost for a lot of the approach, but once I got my bearings, and I got into the split, it was on. It didn't matter how wide the road, I felt quite at home. And soon enough, I was at the hostel. (more...)
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The ride out of Mazatlan was mostly peaceful at around 7 AM. Today was my first day taking the Libre roads. It was an excellent choice. The road twisted and turned, and all around delighted more. I once again failed to get many good photos. It was my longest ride in Mexico to date, but it went by relatively painlessly. (more...)
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I didn't get out the door at the time I intended. But I did get as much sleep as I could. My dreams echoed some of my waking concerns. But I woke up fairly well rested, all things considered. I checked the vitals on the motorcycle. Everything was good. I got her all loaded, and hit the road. (more...)
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"Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive"
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Today was the first day waking up in another country on this trip. In that way it was significant. I woke up around dawn, peered out of my tent. All I could see was motorcycle and pink sky. It made me pretty happy. I was still tired, but I forced myself up. I immediately broke down camp. Before I was done I met a super cute puppy, and her owner. If I recall correctly their names were Rebel and Wendy, respectively. (more...)
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I woke up on a comfy couch in Tucson. My wonderful hostess, Ashley, had made coffee. It was blue bottle coffee... I guess a friend from San Francisco had sent it to her. It was made in a drip pot, but it was still clearly blue bottle coffee. We went to breakfast at a cute little spot, and then I went back to the house to get some things sorted (Insurance, telephone, etc). (more...)
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After Flagstaff came Santa Fe. I'd been having issues with my heated grips. They seem to keep blowing fuses, no matter the amperage. They had the night before in the last 20 minutes of riding. Anyway, I swapped them out first thing before leaving. The ride itself was pretty uneventful. Just long and cold. When I woke up in Flagstaff the temperature was about 3º F. By the time I left it was in the 20s, which was much more doable, especially with my heated grips working again. (more...)
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Staying in Dana Point for the holidays was a real treat. I saw lots of old high school friends, and stayed with Linda Balmer. I got a little bit of work done on the motorcycle, and managed to install a USB charger for my phone. (more...)
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It's too bad I couldn't have planned the weather out better. It was a little bit lousy on the whole. There were a few places heading south, where the storm was to the east, and I got a gap in the clouds that allowed me to be in the sun and look at the ocean. Then every now and again I would get a slight coating and then completely rained on. (more...)
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Okay, so the day approaches. I'm about to leave on a motorcycle adventure to South America. I don't quite know how things will pan out after what I have mapped, or how close my route will be to what I have mapped. But here it is. The all of it.
I've got my lists of gear, and motorcycle supplies. My route is currently mapped out as far as Guatemala, where Matt will be meeting me for a few weeks.
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Looks like I'll be able to cross that one off of my list.
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Not much to detail here. Just working and climbing. I mostly wanted to share some close up photos of rock here for my climbing buddies. And drinking the occasional beer. It's a good life.
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This spot has been incredible. I've already gotten some really fun sport climbing in. Made it into the ocean. Eaten all sorts of delicious things. Seen monkeys. Made friends. Been rained on. Gotten work done. Relaxed. Shaved off a moustache. And blogged about it.
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I'm going to keep this pretty brief. I have about a dozen mosquitos buzzing around my feet. Every now and then the fan turns my way and blows them away. They then have about ten seconds to make their move. I hate to say it, but they've been impressively successful. I have to hand it to them, they're good at what they do. (more...)
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Emotional ups and downs? Ride it.