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Bob Holman says there's no secret recipe for his success.
His restaurants have been a mainstay in Paducah for 65 years simply because he never served anything he wouldn't eat himself.
"I always loved to eat," Holman, 88, said during an interview at his Reidland home. "I tried to always fix (food) like I wanted to have it."
The Holmans announced in mid-June that Bob Holman will retire and that the Holman House Cafeteria on Irvin Cobb Drive will close after June 28. Holman said he probably should have stepped down 20 years ago, but he loved the feeling of being right in the middle of the bustling restaurant industry.
"If I'm sitting here by myself, I'm always thinking about the business, and I'm always thinking how I could improve it," Holman said. "I hate to leave it."
Holman's daughter, Regina Vaughn, took the reins at the restaurant about two years ago as it became difficult for Holman to make it out of the house. She said she loves the business, too, but wanted to spend more time with her father.
"It's a hard decision," she said, "but sometimes you have to make those and go with it and think back on the good memories."
Holman got his start in July 1949, when he and his father-in-law, Porter Stubblefield, opened the first Dairy Queen franchise in the area, and possibly in the state. Holman said he had no formal cooking training, but loved serving people good food.
Holman also possesses the mind of an entrepreneur. He thought the family's Dairy Queen on Bridge Street would benefit from adding burgers, fries and sandwiches to the menu, but Dairy Queen told him he couldn't serve anything other than frozen dairy treats under the company's name.
So, Holman said, he knocked a hole in the restaurant's wall and did it anyway. The move proved to be a hit, and the restaurant, now known as Bob's Drive-In, continues to market itself as the oldest drive-in in western Kentucky.
"Even in the Dairy Queen, I liked to do it a little bit better than anybody else," he said. "It always excites me when I can do better today than I did yesterday."
Holman sold the drive-in during the mid-1960s, and opened an Italian restaurant, Roberto's, at 17th and Kentucky in 1966. Another followed on the Southside and operated until 1982.
But Holman says he's most proud of the Holman House, which he first opened with his second wife Linda, along with daughter Bobbi Holman Williams, in the Ritz Hotel in 1987. The restaurant opened another location at the Irvin Cobb Hotel and added catering and private parties to the repertoire. The two closed and consolidated to the Holman House Restaurant on Park Avenue in 1994.
Running the restaurants was a family endeavor. Linda Holman worked mostly in the kitchen after the two married in the early 1980s, while Vaughn started doing the books at the Ritz. Williams was the catering whiz of the family, her father said.
After Williams died in 1996, the Holmans moved again, and the Holman House Cafeteria has operated at its current location on Irvin Cobb Drive for 16 years.
Vaughn said that since the announcement of her father's retirement, customers have lined up outside the door for a taste of their last Italian roast beef sandwich or slice of strawberry pie. Holman touched many lives, she said, and may well have employed half the people on Paducah's Southside during their teenage years.
Longtime employees Marsha Wilkins and Ann Sanders said they're sad to see the restaurant close its doors, but understand why it needs to happen. They remember Holman as a kind man and a stickler for cleanliness, even when it came to cutting slices of homemade pie.
"I love the (Holmans), and I've always loved my job," said Wilkins, who worked for the family for 21 years. "Days fly by here."
Holman said he never took a vacation and is now looking forward to the free time. That doesn't mean he won't miss the restaurant business.
"Stress?" he said, laughing. "It's a stress from beginning to end. You just have to enjoy it."
Contact Laurel Black, a Paducah Sun staff writer, at 270-575-8641, or follow @LaurelFBlack on Twitter.
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my 14 year old dog is losing her fur around her eyes, why?
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Has she been pawing at them?
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Could be demodex mange. It often shows up in elderly dogs whose immune system isn't quite up to snuff, especially if they had problems with it as a puppy.
If it is not red and/or irritated I wouldn't worry about it. It is not contagious and not usually terribly itchy.
If they are itchy and/or raw and irritated, I would definitely check with your vet.
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December 20, 2012
The Gardnerville Council of the Knights of Columbus are sponsoring a New Year's Eve dance at the Saint Gall Pastoral Center.
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The evening will feature the Rose Bud's Dance Band formed two years ago as an affiliate of the Carson Valley Pops Orchestra. About 18 band members will be playing at the dance and the ticket sales will help support the all-volunteer orchestra.
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Anyone know this vert?
Hey guys
just feeling some stuff out.... anyone know this particular vert?
I am looking for an M3 vert with a 6MT. This will essentially be driven by my brother but of course is there at other times for my enjoyment :str8pimpi:
If anyone knows of a good clean M3 vert for sale, please let me know. 6MT is a strong preference over SMG.
DesiredM posted about this M earlier.
AFAIK It was an Import M3 that had quite a substantial amount of panel damage and was for sale earlier for low $20's and that has now been repaired/restored and new buyer is now selling for new asking price.
Stay away ;)
Saw the title and Instantly thought I bet it was the Estoril import one.
Up to you but I wouldn't touch it. Go inspect it if you want but buyer seems dodgy already "reason for sale is upgrading to a family car" but he has only had it for literally 2-3 months. Inspect it if you want but he is probably pulling a decent 10k profit over what he bought it and repaired it for.
Thanks for the quick feedback guys, much appreciated!
So the hunt for an M3 vert with 6MT continues....
I ran a VIN check and got this:
So you are definitely on the money. Even assuming that the car is in perfect condition, my personal preference is to stay away from an import, especially one that has been purported to have had such an extent of repairs.
Personally, I would still have a look at it.
From what we know, the car used to have panel damage? Hence, sold for cheap. But what type of damage? Was there structural damage? Rust etc?
If it was simply some small cosmetic stuff, and if it has been all fixed correctly, then why not at least have a look at it?
For all we know, it could be a very nice example now that all the bits and pieces have been fixed up...and why can't he ask more since he has fixed it up to a high level?
I think a thorough inspection would be great if you were interested...
It might have a busted subframe, but you wouldn't buy one of those
I would just call the owner and quiz him, why and when he bought it, how long has he had it? Accident history? And ask him if it's purchased locally.
Now he will know the honest answers to all of that, if he is honest (because you know most of the answers already) then it's worth having a look because he has probably fixed it decently but if he lies about it all then it could be safe to assume that he is dodgy and just trying to make a quick $$$
Good luck getting an AUS delivered 3 pedal E46M3..
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No. This isn't dead. And I don't plan on it dying anytime soon. University kicked in this past week for me as well as an overwhelming wave of demotivation. So show production will probably no longer be the show-a-week format I was going for in the summer, but I should be able to still churn out some things
With that said, I have a Supershow preview to get to...
The Hammerstein Ballroom Manhattan, New York City, New York
*Special 2-Hour SuperShow*
~AOW Cruiserweight Championship~
*Tag Team Turning Point Match*
The Hooliganz v. The Mexicools v. Bryan Danielson & Matt Sydal v. Jack Evans & Low Ki
*More teams
The cruiserweights of AOW are geared for what should be an absolutely incredible match! The innovative format for the Tag Team Turning Point match is simple you tag up, you run the gauntlet, you win a shot at the Cruiserweight Championship. Your opponent? The guy you just went through hell and back to make it to the end with! The confirmed teams may all have an accord between each other, but there match is open to whoever and whatever shows up! And what of Gregory Helms, who promised beyond all belief that he WILL be in attendance and that he WILL be a part of that match? What role will he play? Keep your friends close, but most importantly, your enemies closer .
~AOW Dynasty Championship~
*Tournament Finals*
Muhammad Hassan v. Rey Mysterio Jr.
Two men who took different paths to the gold, but are tied together Muhammad Hassan pulling out every trick in the book to get his win over CM Punk, but Rey Mysterio advanced by getting disqualified on account of he was destroyed by the team of Paul Burchill and Bent Albright, whom Hassan hired to take out his competition. Both men represent completely conflicting ideals about not just competing in AOW, but life in general Mysterio, the man who has scratched and clawed his way all the way through life and between the ropes, versus Muhammad Hassan, who is using his wealth to get ahead in life and in the ring, as well as reaching forever into the bag of tricks. Which art of wrestling will indeed win and prove that theyre worthy to hold the first ever Dynasty title?
~Grudge Match~
Bobby Lashley v. Christian Cage
From the moment Lashley set foot in AOW, Christian Cage has been all over his ass constantly interrupting interviews, segments, and even a #1 Contenders match. Christian has made it perfectly clear that he isnt the biggest fan of Bobby Lashley being in AOW, period. Christian has been claiming Lashley wants to use his name and accomplishments to automatically jump in front of the line of everything in AOW. Lashley constantly insists that hes not here for the intentions Christian, or even for Christian. In the process, Christian has been isolated, not only by Lashley, but by the entire locker room as a whole, leaving Captain Charisma a captain of nothing. With Christian finally getting a chance to put his theories to rest, will Cage be able to prove to the world that Bobby Lashley is here for much more underlying motives ? Or is Lashley jut here to be the best he can be?
*War Rules Match*
Samoa Joe v. Finlay
The pilot episode of AOW Oblivion saw the introduction of great tag teams, brand new characters, and the crowning of the first AOW World Champion. Lost in this very impressive shuffle was perhaps what went down in that match to decide the first champion, with the Lucky 13 Battle. The contest saw its first-half Battle Royal style format give way to Samoa Joe being eliminated by the already eliminated Finlay via shillelagh shot. With Joe constantly requesting, but constantly getting the runaround, for a match with Finlay, Joe took matters into his own hands by meeting Finlay on the September 12th edition of Oblivion for an all-out brawl that stretched al l the way backstage, the use of a fire extinguisher, through the crowd and the actual drywall, and even combat atop the infamous Hammerstein balcony! With these men now put in a match with no count-outs, no disqualifications, and when the falls count anywhere, these two are set to well, quite frankly beat the shit out of each other. But who will wind up on top with the undisputed title of the toughest SOB in Art of War Wrestling?
~AOW World Heavyweight Championship~
Chris Jericho(c) w/Paul The Great Wright v. Rob Van Dam v. Shawn Michaels
One step ahead
Thats what Chris Jericho wants to be and seemingly always is. After being crowned champion on the inaugural episode of Oblivion, by making Shawn Michaels tap out, no less, Jericho made his Champions Address the next week, only to be beheaded by Shawn Michaels, who thought he was one step ahead. In the main event of that evening, Bobby Lashley met with Rob Van Dam to decide who would face Jericho for the title the very next week. RVD walked away with the hard-fought win, leaving Jericho with RVD on his plate and the Heart Break Kid on the horizon.
Fast forward to the next week, when Chris Jericho trumped both men and remained one step ahead when he had Van Dam demolished backstage, forcing him to be unable to compete in the title match. When Shawn Michaels tried to step in his place, brand new General Manager Mick Foley concluded that he could do it, but it wouldnt be for the gold. With Jericho simply seeming to biding for time for something, in stepped his grand plan Paul The Great Wright, the 7-foot 400-lb monster weve come to know as The Big Show. Wright accented his already exclaiming debut by destroying Shawn Michaels.
With Van Dam and Michaels named the co-contenders for the title, RVD soon took it upon himself to call HBK out on what he believed was him trying to step in on another mans property. When HBK turned the tables on Van Dam and asked if hed do the same thing, RVDs response caused HBK to lose any and all respect he had for Robbie V, cementing that by giving him some Sweet Chin Music at the end of the program.
Now, with Rob Van Dam and Shawn Michaels, the undisputedly most respected men on the roster, having zero respect for each other and Chris Jericho having the gold, the giant, and his enemies squabbling, who will walk away with the AOW World Heavyweight Championship? Who will be left in the dust, who will be left to pick up the pieces, and who will be the man whos One step ahead .?
Find out on the single biggest night in AOW history, the two-hour SuperShow spectacular, 9/8c on FX!!
September 26th
*Special 2-hour Supershow*
Final Card
~AOW Cruiserweight Championship~
*Tag Team Turning Point Match*
The Hooliganz v. The Mexicools v. Bryan Danielson & Matt Sydal v. Jack Evans & Low Ki
*More teams
~AOW Dynasty Championship~
*Tournament Finals*
Muhammad Hassan v. Rey Mysterio Jr.
~Grudge Match~
Bobby Lashley v. Christian Cage
*War Rules Match*
Samoa Joe v. Finlay
~AOW World Heavyweight Championship~
Chris Jericho(c) w/Paul The Great Wright v. Rob Van Dam v. Shawn Michaels
*Bonus Questions*
1) Select the match order
2) Select the winners of the matches
3) Excluding Gregory Helms, will there be any surprise appearances?
4) Will there be any dusty finishes?
5) Who will take the fall in the World title Triple Threat?
Yes, I'm treating this supershow like a PPV. Again, motivation's gotten to me, but a great deal of the show is already done minus a few things. I'll take this time to say congrats to all who did well and advanced in the BTB Tourny. Show should be full on ready in about a week.
'til then, folks.
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Plan to succeed
The old saying that "a failure to plan is a plan to fail" applies extremely well to most intranets. Without first setting a plan for your intranet plan that includes a strategy, functional details and a building blueprint you may well find yourself six months or even a year or two down the road having to start all over again because the tool is ineffective, out of control or both.
Any successful intranet requires a Functional Plan, a detailed document that identifies the form and function of an intranet, including its Information Architecture—or, where things live on your intranet—the wireframe layouts—or content buckets on the pages—how your intranet looks, and the site's functionality – what your intranet will be capable of and will be included as part of the solution. Also, without a proper Functional Plan selecting the right technology solution is like trying to tie your shoelaces with your hands pinned behind your back – not impossible, but a lot more difficult than it needs to be.
In previous editions of Prescient's newsletter we have provided details on the value and essential importance of a well thought out and planned Information Architecture, and have guided you through the three critical steps (DI, DII, DIII) of designing a killer site. That leaves us with site functionality to cover.
So how do you plan something when you don't know what you need? The obvious answer is you don't.
Needs Analysis
The first order of business when developing a functional plan - one that will allow you to grow your site and have it evolve as the needs of your business and employees do - is to execute an in-depth needs analysis. A needs analysis will set the bar on the current situation for your intranet's environment.
- Challenges: perceived and real,
- Objectives: short and long term, and
- Functionality (tools, process applications and information categories): "can't live without", "would be nice to have", and "don't need even if the CIO thinks it is really cool".
Challenges – Addressing them head on
When it comes to implementing, or revamping, an intranet it is a very good idea to know just what people are thinking. Is your corporate culture one that resists change at every corner, so that you need to roll out your new business tool slowly with lots of communication and orientation? Or do your employees embrace anything that is hip and bleeding edge in the technology world – so that whatever your intranet solutions contains it better offer a slew of bells and whistles like team rooms and blogs? Are all of your employees in one building in the same city – so that that a simpler technology solution can be used? Or are they so geographically dispersed that you need Google Maps to find them – so you had better have a robust networking system that can accommodate log-ins from around the world?
Whatever the issue at hand is that may affect the implementation and/or adoption of an intranet it will pay off in the end to acknowledge, and address it, as best you can at the outset.
Objectives – today will turn into tomorrow
Knowing what you want to accomplish today is important. Equally important is knowing where you want to be tomorrow, next week, and have a least some idea where you want to end up next year and even five years from now.
An intranet needs to be able to morph and grow with a company as the organization changes and evolves. Things to consider with planning for the future:
- Plans for employee growth. If a take-over of another company is planned that will double current staff numbers, the intranet's infrastructure better be able to handle the increased traffic.
- Is the intranet going to be the one-stop-shop for all things corporate: document repository, employee communication tool, HR functional tool (forms submissions, payroll documentation, vacation requests/tracking, etc.)? Then the technology implemented needs to be robust and chock-full of capabilities and upgrades.
Without looking at the big picture, as the intranet's administrator you may find yourself back at the starting line before finishing even the first phase of the intranet's solution – having very quickly outgrown your original plan.
Functionality – one person's dream is another person's nightmare
Understanding your company's culture will go a long way to providing the right mix of basic tools and way-cool functionality.
A good place to start is to make a laundry list of all the requests for tools and features for the intranet. Be sure to throw in a few of your own that you have read or heard about that you think may be a good fit for your organisation. Once you have established that list, sort the items into three columns:
- Can't Live Without – these are capabilities that your organisation needs to either maintain or improve upon current "must have" functionality. This list of often includes: company directory with search functionality, remote access, forms repository and HR resources.
- Nice to Have – this list will be comprised of components that, while the company could do without them, would still he advantageous. For example, if your employees are spread out across the country, but you HR department resides mainly at head office, having the capability to submit forms and requests would be an excellent tool. Or perhaps IM (instant messaging) would also be a welcome addition, particularly in our current world of open-concept cubicle configuration. Could the company live without these tools, sure, but why not take the opportunity to improve upon a required process, or add something that will facilitate communications for employees. These can be relatively easy components to implement, and go a long way to making the intranet an important and well used business tool.
- Don't need – so your CEO is a daily blogger with her running club and she is insisting that blogging functionality be set up for all employees to use. You know, because you have done your homework, that your employees just aren't the blogging-types (you still have employees who won't use email!). You can therefore make the case that this is just not going to be something that will be used enough to warrant the added workload it will require to implement, maintain and govern it. In this case, blogging could be added to the list of "future considerations" so that your CEO can still see some light on the horizon.
Once these lists have been generated and consent required from across the organisation has been received – not as easy as it sounds sometimes – the selection of technology (if required) and implementation of the selected functional elements can occur.
Once the Functional Plan is finalized, it is on to the next steps in your intranet's evolution – site design, content management plan and a governance model. But with this well researched "plan to succeed" shared with everyone else who is helping with the site, you can minimize the time spent discussing what should be on the site and maximize your energy on making those elements perform at their peak.


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Nathaniel Gray Smith Hart (c. 1784 – January 23, 1813), often Nathaniel G. S. Hart was a prominent well-connected Kentucky lawyer who, as Captain of the Lexington Light Infantry during the War of 1812, died along with most of his men in the River Raisin Massacre. The phrase "Remember the Raisin!" became an American call to arms for the duration of the War.
Personal life
Hart was one of seven children, the second son of Colonel Thomas Hart, a veteran of the Revolutionary War, and his wife Susanna Gray Hart. The family was originally from North Carolina, moved to Hagerstown, Maryland, and then settled in Lexington, Kentucky, in 1794. His four sisters married men of some renown – Ann married US Senator James Brown of Louisiana, Eliza married the surgeon Dr. Richard Pindell, Susanna married the lawyer Samuel Price and Lucretia married Henry Clay.
Hart studied law with Clay and had a law practice. He also was a successful businessman, a ropewalk (hemp rope factory) in Lexington being among his ventures. In April 1809, he married Anna Edward Gist, the stepdaughter of General Charles Scott, governor of Kentucky, and daughter of Judith Cary Gist Scott, widow of General Nathaniel Gist. Hart and Anna had two sons, Thomas Hart Jr. and Henry Clay Hart. On January 7, 1812, Hart duelled with Samuel E. Watson at Shirt Tail Bend, a location on the Indiana side of the Ohio River at Silver Creek, the same place that Clay had duelled with Humphrey Marshall in 1809.
Military service and death
At the start of the War of 1812, Hart was Captain of the Lexington Light Infantry Company (aka "The Silk Stocking Boys"), a volunteer unit of the Fayette County, Kentucky militia. He later served as either a Deputy Inspector or Inspector General of William Henry Harrison's Army of the Northwest.
Hart's command was attached to the Fifth Regiment of the Kentucky Volunteer Militia and left for the Northwest in August 1812, where it became part of Army of the Northwest under General James Winchester. In January 1813, a detachment was sent to the defense of Frenchtown, Michigan. Its residents had sent word to the Americans asking for relief from an occupying force of the British and their Native American allies.
The American forces under Lt. Colonel William Lewis were initially successful in forcing the retreat of the small British force stationed there during the First Battle of Frenchtown on January 18, 1813. The British commander of the Fort Malden garrison, Colonel Henry Procter, made plans to take back the area. On the morning of January 22, 1813, Procter's forces attacked the American troops and overwhelmed the right flank of regulars under Winchester, forcing him and much of the general staff to surrender. The Kentucky militia under the command of Major George Madison on the left flank fought on and thought the flag of truce presented by the enemy was actually a British flag of surrender.
During this second Battle of Frenchtown, Hart was wounded and was among the survivors who surrendered to Procter upon orders of Winchester. He was promised safe-passage by Captain William Elliott, a Loyalist British officer who had spent a great length of time in the Lexington home of Hart's father recovering from a severe illness, but this pledge was abandoned during the aftermath of the battle. Elliott borrowed a horse, bridle and saddle from the American officer Major Benjamin Franklin Graves and promised to send help that never came. Elliott is said to have remarked before he departed that "the Indians were very excellent surgeons (and ought to kill all the officers and men)." In one official letter, the eye-witness says that Elliott's broken-promise included taking Hart in Elliott's "own sleigh to Malden that evening" and Hart could remain there in Elliott's home for his recovery. Unable to march with the able-bodied prisoners, Hart paid a friendly Indian to take him to safety on horseback but was instead shot and then scalped. The killing of Hart along with the deaths of the other unarmed wounded prisoners became known as the River Raisin Massacre.
The gruesome deaths of Hart and of his fellow soldiers during the Battle of Frenchtown and the subsequent Massacre became fuel for the War-Hawk political factions, for the pro-war and anti-British sentiment of the era. The phrase "Remember the Raisin!" entered the lexicon of the day as a flashpoint for popular sentiment, becoming a battle cry for American troops, especially the ones on the Western frontier. That many of the murdered men were well-known and well-connected members of Kentucky's elite increased the public-outcry. Among the dead was Colonel John Allen, Henry Clay's law-partner and co-counsel in Aaron Burr's conspiracy trial at Frankfort. Hart's death is even remembered in modern times as "The Murder of Captain Hart."
Aftermath of Hart's death and memorials
Owing to the wholesale nature of the slaughter, the Americans who did survive at the time were not able to give the bodies of their fallen comrades a proper burial as they were either prisoners or escapees; the bones were not interred until months later. In 1818, the remains were transferred from Monroe, Michigan to Detroit. Isaac Baker, an American ensign who survived the Massacre, stated in a report to Judge Woodward in Detroit that:
The dead of our army are still denied the rites of sepulture. ... I was told the hogs were eating them. A gentleman told me he had seen them running about with skulls, arms, legs and other parts of the human system in their mouths. The French people on the Raisin buried Captains Hart, Woolfolk, and some others, but it was more than their lives were worth to have been caught paying this last customed tribute to mortality."
In 1834, the box containing the comingled mass remains (including the universally tomahawked skulls), were moved from their former Detroit resting-place and re-interred in Detroit's City Cemetery. These remains are asserted to have received final burial in the State Cemetery of Frankfort, Kentucky. As late as 1849, a mass grave was excavated during road construction in Monroe. Some writers state that those skeletons, along with the City Cemetery remains, were then returned to Kentucky for final and proper burial that year. but other experts' investigations have placed doubt upon these various accounts.
Matthew Harris Jouett, a man who painted famous portraits of Thomas Jefferson, George Rogers Clark and Lafayette, was one of the Kentucky volunteers and among the survivors of the River Raisin Massacre. The company payroll of $6000 disappeared during the slaughter and Jouett took it upon himself to restore the missing funds, using his skill as a painter to do so. He also painted portraits of his fellow soldiers, including Hart and Colonel Allen, from memory.
The state of Kentucky named its 61st county Hart County, Kentucky in Nathaniel Hart's honor in 1819. In 1904 residents of Monroe, Michigan, erected a monument to the Kentuckians who died defending their settlement during the various River Raisin engagement, the area being where some unidentified victims were buried.
Although some sources list Hart's name as "Nathaniel G. T. Hart," this is incorrect according to Kleber and to the Heidlers Encyclopedia. Hart is also referred to in court documents dating from before his death as "Nathaniel G. S. Hart."
The misnomer apparently dates to a mistake in Historical Sketches of Kentucky, either the Richard Collins edition (published in 1874) or the original edition (published in 1848 by Lewis Collins).
Capt. Nathaniel Gray Smith Hart's Timeline
Hagerstown, Washington County, Maryland, United States
Age 28
January 23, 1813
Age 29
Frenchtown, Wayne County, Michigan Territory, United States


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Mr Farage and other Ukip figures spoke to Roger Lord yesterday in a bid to persuade him to step aside after Mr Carswell resigned as a Conservative MP to join the anti-EU party.
Mr Carswell's move triggered a by-election in the Essex seat, which he visited with Mr Farage today.
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He accused Mr Carswell of "jumping ship" because he would have been beaten next year as the Tory candidate. Ukip stressed that its national executive committee had already decided that Mr Carswell was its by-election candidate. The party said it had powers to decide contenders for such polls, while local parties picked the general election contenders.
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Glock 17 - Winchester PDX1 124 gr. +P
S&W 442 and Ruger SP101 - Remington Golden Saber .38 Special 125 gr. +P
The Ruger can shoot .357 Mags, but I'm sticking with .38 (more to make life less complicated than anything else).
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The Ruger can shoot .357 Mags, but I'm sticking with .38 (more to make life less complicated than anything else).
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Do they function RELIABLY? Do they hit where you aim them? Can you control them for fast and accurate fire? If the answer to these is yes, then you have chosen wisely.
Do you have a reliable supply (somewhere you can get this ammo regularly)? Are you personally confident in them? If the answer to these is yes, you have chosen very wisely.
"Yes" x 5 or 6.
Dear L0RD...
Rate your ammo?
Assuming it's not rusty, or had green stuff all over it, dented, been chewed on by the dog, soaked in oil or other solvents...
It will probably work just fine if you shoot someone in the head or they upper chest.
Then again, Russian steel cases ball ammo does that too...
I don't know. A friend just sent an email with some .44 Mag Chinese ammo that blew up a gun. Nothing against the Chinese. Ironically, we're ordering out Chinese tonight. Russian food's an entirely different matter.
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If it's of the common variety of manufactured self defense ammunition you should be good to go as long as you have done your work and insured it functions flawlessly in your particular guns and hits where you aim consistently.
Truth be known, we all rate our own ammo. Just like we rate our own pistols. Hopefully we've all taken common sense in doing so and have experience to back it up. It's like a question with unlimited answers. What you see on the internet, and what you'll see in the marketing somewhat say to you what you should buy and what you should use. To me this is as ridiculous as to what pistol you should buy and use for your own personal protection. Reviews are always good. They are not always available before your purchase. Thing is...you have the ultimate task of ruling something out for here-say or experience. Depend on the internet alone, and you give up your personality. Be careful in what you do, how you see it, and what you want or need in your particular circumstance. Research is still good. Just anchor your thoughts and decide for yourself.
My S&W Model 28 prefers .357 158 grain in a magnum round but is extremely accurate with 38 special ammo in the same weight. At home I'm loaded with Federal .38 special +P lead semi wadcutters hollow point This load shoots very well at the range and allows for rapid follow up shots in my large frame S&W.
You have chosen wisely....I would do the same and feel good about it.
I couldn't leave well enough alone and went with .38 Gold Dot 135 gr. +P Short Barrel and .357 Mag Golden Sabers. I think I'm OK now.
I personally think +p ammunition isn't worth the wear and tear on the weapon,follow-up shots, etc., but that's a personal issue. I go with standard pressure Gold Dot 124 grain and Ranger 147 grain for my 9mm. If you have a wheelgun capable of shooting .357, try the Gold Dot in Short Barrel or the Buffalo Bore in 125 grain specified for the short barrel, low flash, etc. I believe the product number is 19G/20. I have a S&W Model 640 and am very impressed with the lack of recoil despite the weapon being so light.


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What plant feed, something with slightly higher phosphorus? Think Monty Don said that for his flowering planter and suggested a tomato feed.
I live in Gateshead, North East of Engkand Lily Pilly.
My foxgloves are coming to an end, but have loads of seed pods. is it too late to sow them? Common sense tells me, that if the plant looks like it's ready to self seed, then now is okay to facilitate this, but packets of seeds say sow April, May & June.
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I planted some crocosmia bulbs about two years back and all I get is loads of lushus foliage. They are east facing so only get full sun for half the day. Is it this or that maybe the builbs we small and still maturing? I found one small flower today.
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Can I just check a few things about my foxgloves (pam's choice)?
i understand they are biannuals, I sowed them last year and they have flowered this year. Is that the plant dead after that? There will be NO new growth next year? What do you do, do you dig out the plant in autumn or just let it die back?
I'm going to collect some seeds and try growing some in the greenhouse and grow over winter, but also hoping there will be some self seeding going on too.
Next year I want more alliums to grow in between the foxgloves.
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Question: I read somewhere recently that there was going to be an archaeological dig in the Carlton Gardens next to the Royal Exhibition Building – do you have any more information about this?
Answer: Yes – there will be an archaeological dig, anticipated to commence in October of this year, in the western forecourt of the Royal Exhibition Building, and it represents the first of three stages of wider sustainable conservation project for the building and surrounding Carlton Gardens.
Since the 1950s, the western forecourt of the Royal Exhibition Building has been an unsightly asphalt carpark, a modern blemish on the otherwise beautiful 19th century Carlton Gardens. Furthermore, the health of the gardens is waning due to current Victorian water restrictions, and the historic fountains have been forced out of operation.
In an effort to improve this situation, Museum Victoria is undertaking a sustainable conservation project whereby, firstly, underground water tanks will be installed beneath the forecourt in order to capture rainwater run-off from the substantial roof of the Royal Exhibition Building, and secondly, the German Garden that originally occupied the site of the western forecourt will be reconstructed according to the original 19th century design.
The rainwater run-off captured and stored in the underground water storage tanks will provide a constant source for the heritage fountains and lakes of the Carlton Gardens and will irrigate the newly reconstructed German Garden, while the new garden will replace the undesirable carpark, thereby restoring and completing the 'palace gardens' of the most significant extant 19th century building in Australia.
However, before the installation of the water tanks and the reconstruction of the German Garden can occur, an archaeological investigation of the site will be undertaken to search for traces of historic garden beds and other landscape features that might provide a basis for the garden's reconstruction. This archaeological dig will be managed by Museum Victoria, in conjunction with Heritage Victoria.
The dig will be able to be viewed by members of the public – viewing platforms will be constructed around the perimeter of the dig site, and ramps will be included for accessibility. The dig is anticipated to run for approximately 6 weeks, depending on the quantity and nature of the material uncovered. Any material that is recovered by the dig will be analysed and recorded, and will either become part of the Museum Victoria collections, or will be distributed to appropriate institutions, such as local universities.
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You may also be interested in participating in our annual Dinosaur Dreaming dig at Inverloch. Further information can be found in our Dinosaur Dreaming infosheet.
Hi Kerryn, the dig is about to start! The hoarding will go up around 12 October and the dig begins in about the last week of October. We are currently preparing an MV news story about the dig and will soon have a web page up as well.
Hi there Jacqui. The 'World Heritage: World Futures' Open Day is not a bookable event as such, more a day of informal talk and lectures which will be occuring at the site of the archaeological dig occuring in the Royal Exhibition Building forecourt. If you are interested in coming along to the Open Day all you need to do is turn up on the day between 11am-3pm!
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This is a discussion on How Can I Convert "Coin-slot" Style turrets? within the Optics forums, part of the Sniping Related category; I have heard it is possible to do a retrofit to "coin-slot" style turrets to make it easier to dial shots. I'm indeed saving up ...
I have heard it is possible to do a retrofit to "coin-slot" style turrets to make it easier to dial shots.
I'm indeed saving up for a Target/Tactical scope, but until I have the $1000 I want to spend, I want to make what I have work.
When I bought my Savage 111 30-06 Hunter it had a Bushnell 3-9 Scope. I had issues with this same model ($50 @ Walmart) Scope holding a zero on a 308 back in High School. Therefore I wanted to put the best glass I could get on it. Luckily I inherited a Ruger 77/22mag from my papa, and it had a Nikon Buckmaster 3-9x40mm (~$200) sitting on it. I knew the scope was good, and swapped it out with the Bushnell.
The Nikon holds an excellent zero the only adjustments I made were when I went to a different ammo. However, it is an older scope with the coin slot style turrets, this makes learning how to dial shots a pain. I have heard that there was a DIY thing you can do to modify the "coin-slot) for finger adjustments. Any body got any ideas?
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Only DIY mod I have ever seen/heard of was crude but possibly could work for you, I guess, what I am going to tell you is what I saw someone do, I talked to them about it and they claimed it worked for their needs. Personally I would not do it, just basically because it degrades the value of the scope by modifying it. So here you go:
The guy had JB welded' nickles into his scope turrets. As you would use a coin to adjust this type of scope, from the looks of it he basically "glued" one into each. He said he had done it that way over a couple years prior, I thought to myself at that moment, either get a scope with finger adjustable turrets or basically use the scope how it was designed originally. Just my .02cents'
"There is a very thin line between being Brave and being Stupid.",~R.Reagan
I have heard of people epoxying something onto the turret, but it's not a modification I would recommend.
Graham Smith, SFC, US Army (Ret)
"There's no right way to do the wrong thing."
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Stony Point makes a turret cap that works with some Leupold scopes but I doubt it's very interchangeable. Still, you might want to check with them to see.
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A little late to the game but I just found a guy who made this last night.
Convert coin style turrets into finger adjustable turrets


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Seeking Shanti
Glimmers of Hope
This past week was spring break for my kids and this year we ended it at home, after visits that included northern California, Chicago, and western Michigan. The visits reminded me of how diverse our nation is in geography and outlook, just like the range of perspectives that I seesaw between, as a Hindu American advocate and an interfaith activist.
In northern California, I met friends from the Hindu American community, like Mihir Meghani and Easan Katir. Mihir Meghani is a co-founder of the Hindu American Foundation (HAF), which advocates for human rights and promotes the Hindu and American ideals of understanding, tolerance, and pluralism. He was profiled in the AJC's America's Table for helping start the Foundation, and serves as an inspiration to many in the community for his dedication, energy, and focus. Easan Katir is an interfaith leader for the HAF team in the San Francisco area, and is a part of SiVIC—the Silicon Valley Interreligious Council—which "builds interreligious harmony and understanding so as to promote a just and compassionate society in Silicon Valley." Easan and I shared the common challenges we face as part of the nation's interfaith movement, be it in the Bay area, where Hindu ideas have taken root for decades, or the Motor City, home to the largest mosque in the U.S.
In Chicago, I met family—foreign students in graduate school—whose rather stereotyped understanding of America and Americans left me wondering how to bridge gaps created by national identities. America's policies on war, or its dealings with Pakistan and India, can make little sense to someone from India (and me too). Trying to explain what I do with the Foundation and the importance of advocacy in America, particularly for Hindus, seemed as futile as explaining the questionable ethics of conversion to Christianity when coupled with humanitarian aid to someone from Troy who goes on mission trips to India.
In western Michigan, I met friends and family—a like-minded Hindu temple spokesperson and cousins with a new baby—hoping to create an alliance between them so that advocacy and faith can come together for future generations of Hindu Americans. The hope was tempered by reality; the politics and religion of the region include a strong Tea Party movement and the organization Mission India, which claims that in India, "Superstition and idol worship have an iron grip—there is no forgiveness or joy."
Back at home, I finally caught up on my reading, emails that I had saved, with links that I wanted to read rather than skim: the resolution that Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison sponsored; the story of Rinkel Kumari, a 19-year-old Hindu student who converted to Islam under disputed circumstances last month.
Padma Kuppa is a writer, IT professional, community activist, wife, and mother working to build a more pluralistic society within a Hindu and interfaith framework. You can also read her blog A Balancing Act, at padmakuppa.blogspot.com. The views represented in this column are not a reflection of the views of any organization of which she is a part.
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text: I'd like to share my great experiences ordering shoes from Alfred Sargent. After asking for shell cordovan sources here and on AAAC, I emailed Chay Cooper @ AS and received an astonishingly fast reply. We emailed back & forth, & I finally decided to go for Edens, an older model single-strap monk on the 87 last, in burgundy shell to AS Exclusive standards. My real problem was the size, since I couldn't make it to any of the US trunk shows and had no experience (as it turned out) with English shoe sizes. Based on a red herring pair of 10-year-old Cheaneys bought in the US @ a Church's retail store that must've been labeled in US sizes, we decided initially to go with 10.5. Fortunately I had input from Sarah Nelson @ A Fine Pair of Shoes and soon changed the size to 9.5. I paid my deposit and waited for almost exactly 2 months til my shoes were ready. The 9.5 turns out to be just right. The 87 last has a nicely spacious toe box and vamp, while still giving a sleek profile. The heels are the only unlined part of the interior of the shoes (for whatever it's worth), & they have a small springy insert that I really like. The shell is nice and thick, & I find the burgundy much subtler and more interesting than Alden's #8. One thing that should be mentioned is that there's is a tangible seam in the insteps where the vamp material meets 1 of the 2 pieces that form the back of the shoe. The seam in noticeable for about a minute when I put the shoes on, but then I get used to it & forget all about it. The fiddleback soles are a nice subtle touch. The price of the shoes included shipping to the US, as well as the AS dust bags & felt cloth. I can't recommend Sargent's service highly enough & am very disappointed that I won't be able to make it for a factory tour next month when I'm in England. I've already ordered another pair: whiskey shell saddle derbies w/ a black shell apron saddle. I can't hardly wait. Sorry for the mediocre pics. Nick D.


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Kitchen Circuit Rating
Do non-countertop receptacles in the kitchen need to be on 20 amp circuits?
Other than the two required 20 amp SABC you can install whatever you want in addition to those.
Small Appliance Branch Circuits. 2 required.
I think I was under the misconception that these were to serve countertops only, but now I'm thinking that they include the entire kitchen, so, we must have 2 receptacles on 1 circuit serving a countertop that measures 12" (inches) long, and one for the wall space, and they are to be separate; is that correct?
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If you have long countertop which it is 24 feet long you can split in two circuits or more depending on how you did the lay out.
The last kitchen I done with my customer which they have 26 feet countertop so I split in 3 circuits and that work very well.
For the non countertop portation we go by 6/12 rules but it is a part of SABC depending on the lay out and how the circuits run.
And just be aware with countertop the spacing is pretty specfic on the spacing pattern useally 2/4 feet which it mean you can have a recptale no more than 4 feet apart that is the max distance on countertop side.
Ok sorry about again let get to the point .,
If you have any undivied countertop is more than 12 inches you will required to install a receptale but if you have a countertop let say 10 inches then no you do not need a receptle at all.
There is one more thing if you have island countertop if the overhang is under 6* inches you will required a receptle as well. ( I am pretty sure that is part of SABC )
* note : it may change to 8 inches but all it depending on your state/local code for details for island requirment which it will change a bit.
OK, thanks Marc, and that was MY fault, not yours in the misreading.
Now, what I'm trying to find out is, apart from the countertop receptacles, are ALL receptacles in the kitchen considered SABC? In other words, the general purpose receps on the wall, they are part of the 2 SABC's, correct?
And if so, can lighting be part of them?
Here's what I have.
The kitchen lighting is feeding a wall receptacle (non-countertop). I'm pretty sure that this is against code, but I think that since it's existing, it will be grandfathered.
NOW, I need an outdoor light, and the closest, and easiest place to pull a feed to the outdoor lamp is from that receptacle. Would this be a violation?
Note that there's no crawl or attic space for the kitchen area.
That why I always use the light on seperated circuit ( genrally from other rooms depending on the load and what specfic circuit it used )
If you leave that alone it will genrally become grandfathered ( as long the wall is not ripped open or gutted )
If that receptale is not part of SABC I am pretty sure you can tap into that one without issue. ( only gotcha is make sure you remember bathroom and dinning room circuits plus garage circuits gernerally off limits )
I think he said it correctly, he said "the two required", which I took as the minimum required by code.
I normally do three, two for the counter tops, and one for the dining room.
Some people do four, two for the counter tops, one for the dining room, and one for the fridge.
Our home has three SABC two for the counter tops. One for small microwave gas stove and hood fan. Dedicated circuit for fridge. And a MWBC for dishwasher disposal. Lighting is on the same circuit as the bathroom laundry room and hallway lighting.
But our home is really small and it works. When doing the kitchen I like the fridge on its own circuit so a tripped GFCI can't interrupt the fridge.
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I just read it differently.:)
I'll catch the fridge, before the GFCI, then it won't bother the fridge if the GFCI trips.
Here's a question I have asked my inspectors.
Receptacles in appliance garages, do not count for counter top receptacle SABC (spacing), so does that mean they don't need to be on the SABC?:whistling2:
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Over the years Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski has turned down at least three offers to coach in the NBA-- from the Celtics, the Trail Blazers and the Lakers. Wednesday, he was asked if his standpoint on coaching the NBA has changed.
"One that I took to a far level was the Lakers situation, and they were great with me," Krzyzewski said. "I could not give up what I've got, what I have at Duke. It just wasn't worth it."
The question was raised amid talk that Lakers coach Phil Jackson will retire at the end of the NBA season.
It's not as if Krzyzewski needs to prove to himself he can relate to or be successful coaching NBA stars. Krzyzewski, 64, has done that while coaching the U.S. national team to gold-medal finishes in the 2008 Olympics and 2010 world championships. The Olympic team included LeBron James, Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade. The world team featured a new wave of stars in Kevin Durant and Derrick Rose.
DRIVE FOR FIVE: Coach K looks golden
Asked a while back if those experiences gave him an NBA coaching fix of sorts, Krzyzewski told USA TODAY: "I don't know if 'fix' is the right word. It's not like I said, 'I have to have that.' To me that's a fix. But there's an allure to maybe try that. I'm glad I'm doing what I'm doing (with the national team). Looking back, if I didn't do it, I think I would have missed the opportunity of not coaching an elite player. To coach an elite team, it's an incredible opportunity."
Krzyzewski also has an ideal situation with his family in Durham. Wife Mickie is at his side as much as possible. Daughters Debbie, Lindy and Jamie live in the area with their families. An NBA job would spread the family thin.
"My daughters and my wife will tell you they feel every bit a part of this," Krzyzewski said. "It's not a big-time operation but it has big-time success. It's enhanced our family. It's been like a family business."
Krzyzewski has worked with NBA players in recent years after being the head coach of Team USA, where he has won three gold medals at the 2007 FIBA Americas Championship, 2008 Summer Olympics, and the 2010 FIBA World Championship.
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Bulls Fall in Finale at Red McEwen Field
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TAMPA --The University of South Florida baseball team (23-29, 14-10 BIG EAST) dropped the rubber match of a three-game set, 10-3, Sunday afternoon against the No. 19 UConn Huskies(41-11, 18-5) in a rain-shortened contest that marked the final tilt at the current Red McEwen Field.
Big innings by the UConn attack continued to plague the USF pitching staff as the Huskies used a pair of four-run rallies on Sunday, after putting up a 10-spot in an inning yesterday. The last two days, UConn put 23 runs with 18 of them coming in three innings alone.
With the win, UConn becomes the first BIG EAST opponent to take a home series from USF since 2008. Prior to the series USF had taken 10 straight series at Red McEwen Field dating back to April of 2008. USF finishes up the 2010 home campaign 11-4 against BIG EAST and 16-11 in games at the Red.
USF fell behind early thanks to a pair of two-run homers by UConn's George Springer and Kevin Vance in the first inning off Bulls starter Andrew Salgueiro.
The Huskies, who moved back into sole possession of first place with the win coupled with a Cincinnati win over Pittsburgh earlier in the day, touched Salgueiro (1-2) up for more runs in fourth.
It was a tough Senior Day for the Miami native, as he lasted just 3.1 innings yielding eight runs on seven hits while striking out four Huskies and allowing seven earned runs.
Down 8-1, the Bulls scratched across lone runs in the three straight innings starting in the fourth to cut the UConn lead to 8-3 but it was not enough.
An RBI-double by Sam Mende with two outs in the fourth plated Alex Mendez for the Bulls' first run. Mende lead the Bulls offensively with two hits in two at-bats.
Mende seems like he might be picking up momentum offensively having tallied a base-hit in five of his last six at-bats
RBI-singles by Todd Brazeal and Luis Llerena in fifth and sixth innings accounted for the Bulls second and third runs of the contest, but USF could not get any closer as the Huskies responded with two-runs of their own in the seventh.
With two outs in the top of the eighth inning, umpires halted play due to a number of lightning strikes in the area and then after a 43-minute rain-delay the game was called.
At the plate, the Bulls collected seven hits on the day compared to the Huskies 10.
Following this weekend it doesn't get any easier for the Bulls as they head to the Steel City to take on second-place Pittsburgh on May 20-22 in the final series of the 2010 regular season.
Game Notes
The game marked the final game to played at the current Red McEwen Field ... Construction on brand new baseball and softball stadium will begin in the near future ... The new baseball stadium will still be known as Red McEwen Field ... Sunday's game was Senior Day and USF honored seniors Andrew Salguiero, Teddy Kaufman, Matt Quevedo, Joe Cole and junior Matt Stull, who will not compete his final year due to injury...The five were recognized by Bulls head coach Lelo Prado during an on-field pregame ceremony ... The mothers of the five seniors threw out the game's first pitch.