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Gordon looks like he may cop lucky with actually seeing a game on his trip.
For Tania and I it's not looking so good at the moment. The Ravens schedule is a killer for us. Not only are the Ravens away for most of September, but the home opener is the Clowns :grbac:
The Denver game is out for as my parents are away.
Then it's the Bills :grbac: or the Dolphins in November. Tania is a warm weather girl.
2011 anyone?"We ain't stinking Redskins fans in this Town sonny!"
04-22-2010, 11:52 AM #2Regular 1st Stringer
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If any of the locals are interested in a road trip to the Jets, Gordon and I will be going with the women. We have 4 seats in Upper Prime Section 337/Row 3 for $223 each. Got these off Stubhub.
I thought this was a steal for the new stadium.
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Gordon was saved by the legend that is Toe, I'd be unable to get to any game this year if he wasn't kind enough to offer to drive us up.
He's definately owed a few from me!
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TOE Well done."We ain't stinking Redskins fans in this Town sonny!"
04-23-2010, 06:25 PM #5Regular 1st Stringer
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Hey don't forget I almost had to get on a plane to London without a Giants/Dolphins ticket. That would sucked flying over not knowing if I was going to see the game. Dave and the UK Ravens took care of me.
I want to make sure Katie is able to sleep the next 5 months and not worrying about a football trip with no football game.
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Long time lurker, first time poster... Planning our 3rd annual trip this year (cheated last year and went to Ravens @ Pats!).. looking at schedule, Broncos @ Ravens followed by Vikes @ Jets on the Monday night looks doable...


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Richard Lloyd - Back From TV Hell
At some point in his illustrious career, Richard Lloyd might tell you, he became one with his guitar. After conversing with him for an hour or so, its easy to notice the similarities between his brain waves and the curvilinear riffs that used to emanate from Television, Lloyd's seminal New York punk band of the late 1970s.
Ask him about songwriting, and you'll end up hearing his theories on hypertext. Start him on guitars, and you'll end up in Psychology 101 listening to the nature vs. nurture debate. Richard Lloyd's got an interest in and an opinion on everything. And, in part-Jaded Rock Star/part-New York Asshole fashion, he'll pretty much tell you he's right about everything too.
Diligent readers can judge for themselves whether they're more likely to believe Lloyd or your friendly-neighborhood cognitive scientist on matters of human psychology, but, where the guitar is concerned, Lloyd does have a fair claim to expertise.
In Television and particularly on the landmark 1977 album Marquee Moon, Lloyd and fellow guitarist Tom Verlaine did away with the dominant rock paradigm of the times-- gone were the ham-fisted, cock-rocking white blues clichs; in their stead, a mathematical guitar method built on angles and curves emerged, soulless to some in its de-emphasis of emotion, but no less imagistic to the listener. Television's guitar program sent scores of boy guitarists back to their bedrooms; a few years later, they emerged as adult New Wavers.
Since Television parted ways in 1978 (the band briefly reunited for a concert tour/album in 1992 and for a few shows in 2001), Lloyd has taught guitar in the New York area, recorded with Television junkie Matthew Sweet, and released three of his own solo albums, most recently The Cover Doesn't Matter (2001).
In addition to promoting The Cover Doesn't Matter, Lloyd nowadays develops content for his website RichardLloyd.com, an interactive learning resource for guitarists as well as a soapbox for Lloyd to discourse on topics of interest to him, including The Fovia, Television, and Illusion of Consciousness.
Guitar.com listened to Lloyd talk before his recent show at the Empty Bottle in Chicago.
Richard Lloyd: So where is this going to show up again?
Guitar.com: On Guitar.com. It's a lot like your site we have columns and discussions as well as interactive tools for guitarists.
Lloyd: Yeah. Some things are so much more easily explained by demonstration than they are by writing.
Guitar.com: You do have an enormous amount of writing on your site.
Lloyd: It was hurting my wrists when I made a website, so I got some voice recognition software. Now I put on the little headset and I chat away, so it's easier to write long things. Then I send the diagrams to my webmaster, and he does a pretty good job with the animation, so that there's some eye candy you know.
Guitar.com: Like the Chord Generator?
Lloyd: Yeah, that's completely his idea cause I don't use those chords. I have my own. He put it together and I was like, It's not in any order. I would have put it in fourths. I would have written it out in-- anyway, yeah, it's a cool thing to have on there as a resource.
Guitar.com: Yeah, we have one like that too. We also have a Chained Effects Generator where you can hear what different guitar effects sound like.
Lloyd: Do you have how you can make your guitar sound like a watermelon cracking open? And how you can make your guitar sound just like a family of ducks?
Guitar.com: Something along those lines.
Lloyd: Tha'ts cool.
Guitar.com: Yep.
Lloyd: Oh, that's good, man.
Guitar.com: So, anyway, I was hoping we could talk a little bit about home recording..
Lloyd: Home recording, big mistake. I'm not home recorded-- that's not my home. I don't live there. I don't fall asleep there. I go there. It's a professional building with a commercial lease. They're allowed to charge me far more money than they should for the space. It's our rehearsal space. And it has an autographed picture of Madonna, under Plexiglas, outside my door.
Guitar.com: I imagine she's a big inspiration to you musically
Lloyd: God, no. She's a sweet girl-- I mean, farther than anybody could imagine. She used to use Jellybean Benitez's [Madonna producer] room he had a room in the building on our floor, and she would be locked out and used to come by to the rehearsal going, Until I get in my room, do you mind if I sit and watch you rehearse? You didnt know what was coming, but anyway-- how did we get there from where we were talking?
Guitar.com: I think I learned a lesson about choosing my musical terms more carefully.
Lloyd: Oh, yeah, home recording. It's not home recording, but it might as well be this last record [The Cover Doesn't Matter] was done with two ADATs and not that much gear, but I have all I got because I've worked on great records. I've worked with great producers. I've worked in world-class studios. And I have a little bit of an ear, so I know the difference between noise to signal ratio. I know how to get it up.
Guitar.com: What about the space?
Lloyd: You know how they say, "No parallel walls?" I have a lot of people come in and say, "Oh you can't make a record here because you have to have it sound treated." And then whenever I've played things for people they all go, You recorded that here????? Like you're not allowed! But what was rock 'n' roll? They used to record, like, in a hallway! Now, you can technically have better equipment than they had in the 50s and the 60s, [but] more tracks means youre going to have more chances to ruin what you're good at doing.
[Recording's all about] little trick-- all sorts of gadget-y tricks. You should have producer.com or recordingengineer.com [for that].or stringchanger.com..or aluminumfoil.com-- all about the uses of that stupid foil.
Guitar.com: Speaking of dot-coms..You were planning to rely on the Internet to sell The Cover Doesn't Matter.
Lloyd: That was the grand illusion that we were gonna be able to forego the record company and the distribution and have internet sales, but, very quickly, I saw that not everybody has internet access, even now. I mean it's an explosion, and there's no turning back, so we got our foot in the door, but the record is also distributed through regular channels. I make more money when it's sold on the Internet, though, because basically the artist is in connection with the retailer.
Guitar.com: Was it that commerce opportunity that initially gave you hope for Internet sales or had you been frustrated enough with the old music industry that you were looking for something else?
Lloyd: I look at this way. I'm a mid-level artist, lower mid-level artist. I mean, I'm not going to challenge 'NSync or any of the youth-oriented pornographic dance rock nor the dinosaurs with the big machines like Aerosmith or Tom Petty. Let's say I have pockets of fans worldwide, but they're small groups here and there. I have some fans in Spain, and some fans in New Zealand, and some fans in Scandinavia, and some fans in Brazil, and some fans in Cleveland. But a traditional record company the way they held the monopoly is that they had a monopoly in distribution. They manufactured the records, and they promised that they would be in stores, and they did the advertising and all sorts of things-- that's a huge machinery that's required to get the records from the inception to the consumer. So with all the startup costs, the sheer getting of records into all the stores you're already way downhill that you need to sell a lot just to come up. With a major record company, I have to sell a ton of records, and still they're not happy, whereas, with the Internet, somebody from Antarctica can order the record, and it's available to them. I don't have to have all those different distributions in place.
As I said, it's still new not everybody has it, and [a lot of] people just want to grab it, look at it, and smell it before they buy it. Even me, if I can buy something on the Internet or walk around the corner, I'd probably walk around the corner because I don't want to wait three days while they overnight it, and then the building man comes when I'm not home, and I have to go chase it down. It's a strange new world.
Guitar.com: You've moved from Television, to a few solo records, to working with Matthew Sweet and other artists, now back to solo records..
Lloyd: And Matthew is just around the corner again.
Guitar.com: You're going to play with him again?
Lloyd: I don't know, we were talking [about it]. He's in L.A., I'm in New York. I saw him recently. He did a little tour to support his best-of record, and we were talking, but, anyway, your question.
Guitar.com: Is it tough to switch roles back and forth, sideman to frontman to sideman?
Lloyd: No. It's not tough at all for me because mostly they allow me to do what I wanted to do in the beginning, which is play guitar. Really, that's what I was on my knees asking for from the powers that be that was my big wish to be a guitarist in the field of rock n' roll when I got there.
Guitar.com: How'd you get there?
Lloyd: I'll tell this story, because John Lee Hooker died recently. I was in Boston, I think, in 1971. I'd followed my friends that went to Berklee, and I lived on mayonnaise sandwiches for a while up there. But I was at a John Lee Hooker show and was backstage talking to him. He was a very gracious man, and somehow he got wind that I was a guitar player, and he insisted that, "You have to come up and jam with us." And I was like, "Mr. Hooker, I really haven't been playing that long. I'm not that good." He replied, "No young man, you've got to support the youngsters. What is your name?" And so I told him. [Hooker then responded:] "I am calling you up from the stage and when I do, you better get up here for Mr. Hooker." So, he called out my name, and I'm like, "Oh no." I went up. His guitar player handed me his guitar with a look [that said] "Oh, man what are you doing, John?" They were playing some number, and he gave me this big guitar solo. I proceeded to quiver and shake. I was like a doe in the headlights, but I don't know.
Influences? I was influenced by 1965 and 66 by those years, you know? I'm old enough that I saw The Beatles and The Rolling Stones on TV when I was 8 or 9. And I wondered, How did they whip people into a frenzy? It's not like they were at a campfire singing songs and everybody fell into a swoon. There's some sort of hypnosis going on or magical power. It's like something is happening beyond. I mean, look at the lyrics of The Beatles early hits could you find a more pedestrian stream of words? Love, love me do. You know I love you. Let me hold your hand. She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unbelievable. There had to be some other support to go around. Four cute guys? So what, you know?
Then later on, instrumentally, the guitar began to have the same voice that the vocalist did. The guitarists kind of moved to the center of stage and took on a role of elongated, improvisational speaking, and that's when I knew. Something clicked in me and I said, "Ah, remember the Walt Disney cartoon of Fantasia and he's got the broomstick? The wizard has the wand and the little assistant plays with the broomstick." Suddenly, I went like this [strums guitar]this [holds his guitar] was the wand. The instrument that supported [was] a couple good tribal drums. It was really the guitar, and I could see it. That's when I knew that's what I wanted to do.
I wanted to become a master of the instrument, which allowed [the hypnosis] to take place. I didn't actually think in my mind, "Oh, I'm gonna be like The Beatles" or "I'm gonna be like a Rolling Stone" because I was too young and they were too old. It was too far a distance. It was sort of like, "Well, I could be an astronaut, but then I have to join the military and become a fighter pilot, and I don't want to do that. Or, I could become a doctor, but then I gotta be an intern and then I gotta not sleep for 36 hours at a time while people tug at me and I've got the worst stinking stethoscope in my ear." So I went down the list of all the occupations and crossed all of them out, and I had none left. I was only certain of one thing-- I didn't want to grow up. I didn't want to have a job. I was so afraid, so I thought what could I use to prevent myself from maturing--- music, that was it.
Guitar.com: What other guitar acts were you into in the late '60s?
Lloyd: I'm not a Cream fan, except Disraeli Gears, but Hendrix, yes. Jeff Beck, Mike Bloomfield, the blues players as well. Buddy Guy because I followed the English back through their influences and found the heritage of rock blues. And my cousins were really into the Everly Brothers, so I kind of had that vocal-harmony approach there, too.
Guitar.com: Since we've mentioned a couple of blues artists so far, I want to ask you many critics, in discussing Television, almost inevitably talk about how you guys disowned the blues is that true?
Lloyd: I would agree with that. In Television, there's hardly any blues influence. There are very strong 60's moods like Nuggets, garage rock, and psychedelia that have a dominant seven blues. It's not a blues influence. It's like white blues from another planet. There was a lot of minor key stuff. It's not really blues-based. In my own playing, I do have that influence. Frankly, that's where you find the most craftsmanship in electric guitar playing. With electric guitar, you find the most craftsmanship there, the most extended improvisational place because jazz players dont bend their notes.
Once an old, black guy told me, The secret is to bend [notes] and stain them. That's the whole secret. They're playing a piano on a guitar. You know they don't bend any notes they're really trying to play the piano on a guitar, and the guitar is more like a saxophone or harmonica. You can bend the notes that's where it gets its expressiveness. I use more whole-step bends in Television, for instance, than Tom Verlaine. It's a rule and thats more of the blues flavoring.
Guitar.com: How did the songwriting work with Television? What was the process for developing the songs and the guitar lines?
Lloyd: When I first saw Tom. He played by himself with no band just electric guitar, a small amplifiera Serpico like Peter Allen used to play. He did an audition. He did three songs, and I believe all three of them ended up on Marquee Moon, so Tom brought songs fully structured [already]. Sometimes, Tom would come in with a part that he couldn't really sing along to, so he would give me that and I would play that, and he would develop another part. Other times, you would have a part of the song where we would each add our own parts. He always took care of the lyrics there was really no ambiguity about that, but a lot of the songs were really structured like that.
One of my skills was and I think it is is that I can take a part and make it mine, so, after a time, it is mine. And, in fact, I become not just identified with the part, but it changes the part itself In other cases like a couple of the songs, you know I'd be trying something, and Tom would wander in the room in one case, he said, "Well could you do that backwards?" So that became a song. Other times, we'd just fall in together, maybe bang a couple of beats, and we'd all just be playing around, throw some words on it, and it developed.
Guitar.com: What were some examples of Tom's parts that you felt like you made your own?
Lloyd: Happy Birthday, And This Bird Can Fly. What was that other one? Rhapsody In Blue, Piano Sonata No. 19..
Guitar.com: Yeah, I liked that one.
Lloyd: Yeah, that was a great one. Paganini's Caprice No. 9, I wrote that in my spare time. You get the picture?
Guitar.com: I suppose so.
Lloyd: Some things are like, "Wow, you know, I'm not in a magicians guild." I don't mind giving away secrets because, frankly, playing the guitar and doing rock n' roll is like climbing a mountain. You could have a Sherpa that could say "Oh, don't go up in that place. You know to get there, you could just go around and go up. It's easy, then you'll get to the top." But I can't climb it for anybody else, so I don't give a crap.
It's like do this, do this, do this, do this because, if you do that and you're talented, you'll make out like a bandit. And if not, nothing I say is going to help you. You'll still be sitting down in your garage faking it and playing other people's stuff. That's my, what's that called? Rage Against the Machine! RAM! That's the word I'm looking for. I'm a linguist. If I don't find a word that some other guy used, I use a new one.
Guitar.com: Let's talk about learning and developing your own style..
Lloyd: [Lately], I've been wailing on some people [that its all about] the man-hours. Simple, simple man-hours. Man-hours on your instrument. They did a study of classical symphony players, and they wanted to find out which meant more talent or practice? And they found out that first chair violinists had put in something like 2,500 man-hours on their instrument more than their second chair people.
We're talking about years, and years, and years, and years of man-hours on the instrument and the same thing is true of any musical instrument. It made a vast difference to me when I learned that these first chair players had put in like 10,000 man-hours on the instrument. So, whenever I hear [somebody]banging away at a guitar, or drums, or trumpet, and it sounds like crap--- I just think to myself, You got 9,800 hours to get good.
[But I also ask people] How long have you been playing the guitar? They'll come out and say, "I've been playing the guitar for 15 years." And I go, "No. You haven't been playing guitar for 15 years. If you had been playing the guitar for 15 years, I would be worshipping what you're doing with the instrument. What you mean is, and, correct me if I'm wrong, that, during a period of 15 years, you have DABBLED at playing the guitar. I mean if you would've became an M.D. and you dabbled at medicine nobody would give you a stethoscope. And, if you wanted to become a lawyer and you go, 'Oh well, I dabbled in. the municipal code.' It's in a book somewhere. I saw it, I think, but I didn't read that one. You wouldn't get along, so the instrument is no different."
I was supposed to do a book, an instructional book, and then I procrastinated. I just got sidetracked and they didn't give me a ghostwriter to help me with it. They said, "Oh well, just hand in the book." And I was like, "I'm really good with people; I'm not so good at looking at an empty wall trying to write a book." So then I got the website, and I thought If I put some music lessons on it, it'll give me a chance to talk about the other things that interest me, the more mystical notions that are embedded in musical study, it'll give me the premise for a book the book I am supposed to write that they've been waiting for three years now, so that's kind of where it came from. Plus, I was thinking, "You get a website. What do you do with it?" I visit websites and their static pages, and I put them in my Favorites. I go back and, if they don't change, I can't keep going there. It's like anything else. It's like a newspaper. Do you read last Tuesdays newspaper? I can't. I know a lady, she kept all her old newspapers and my wife asked her, "Why do you keep all those papers?" She said, "Well, I may be looking for a job and I have the classifieds from the last four years."
Guitar.com: What sites do satisfy you?
Lloyd: Mostly, I go hunting for music-related stuff. I was recently looking for Circle of Fifth stuff I couldn't find too much. I found a really fantastic web page on esoteric music studies, and a musical octave, and some mathematical thing about it, and I got a few things out of that. Or, I go to other instructional pages like yours, and I hunt, and I peck, and I fish around for stuff... I mean if I go someplace, to me it's like panning for gold. If I go someplace and have to wade through 14 web pages of shit but I get one notion that I actually can [use], then it's completely worth it to me.
Guitar.com: Are you listening to bands on the web?
Lloyd: I don't listen to anything on the web. I don't have a fast enough connection. My connection is like molasses. It's dial-up. I tried one of the digital service lines and frankly my computer kept getting stuck. I guess my computer is not fast enough and so, short of paying more than I want to pay, I just stick with the dial-up. I just use it for writing for the site.
Guitar.com: What about off the web? Are there new bands youre listening to?
Lloyd: Well, if I told you, it's another one of those painful moments. I don't listen to music. You know, when the day is over for me I have piles of records up to the ceiling I used to take them like Frisbees. I would play them and then throw them in the corner, and I'd have piles. When I want to listen to music, you know what I do? Silence is good. I listen to classical music quite a bit. Stuff gets pushed on me you know, as it does for everybody. People always say, "Have you heard such and such?" And I'm like, "No."
Guitar.com: Sorry for bringing up such a painful topic.
Lloyd: You're forgiven.

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Starkey: Steelers fans spoiled rotten
Sanity check: Am I the only person in town who thinks Mike Tomlin is doing a decent job this season?
Am I the only one who sees the Steelers still controlling their playoff fate as an accomplishment rather than an embarrassment?
Immersed in the world of sports-talk radio, I am exposed to dangerous levels of hysteria, cynicism and utter nonsense. And every once in a while it becomes clear: A large chunk of this fan base is spoiled rotten.
Just this week, we fielded calls demanding Tomlin be fired. The season's over, time to rebuild, LeBeau's too old, and Cowher would never let his players get away with this.
A frequently heard argument is that Tomlin has always "played down to the competition."
Actually, Tomlin has won 75 percent of his games (33-11) against losing teams. He went 16-0 against them the past two seasons.
This season, like in 2009, Tomlin has lost to a lot of bad teams. And like three years ago, the Steelers aren't all that hot themselves, mostly because they have been decimated by injuries. In his other four years, Tomlin was 28-3 against losing teams.
Am I the crazy one here?
Perhaps a round of intense hypnotherapy will help.
You go first: Follow the pendulum until your eyes grow heavy … heavy … heavy. OK, we're back in Latrobe. It's Aug. 1, and we are peering into a crystal ball (don't mind the crack; Rashard Mendenhall fumbled it on the way over).
I will tell you what I see. You will then tell me where the Steelers will be after 13 games.
I see …
• Ben Roethlisberger missing 3 1⁄2 games, including both against Baltimore.
• Troy Polamalu missing 9 3⁄4 games.
• James Harrison missing three games and being a shell of himself for several more.
• LaMarr Woodley missing three full games and most of two others.
• Antonio Brown missing 3 1⁄2 games.
• What's this … Maurkice Pouncey playing guard? Will Allen starting seven games? Kelvin Beachum? Jonathan Dwyer? Charlie Batch calling signals in Baltimore? Who is Josh Victorian? Plaxico's back?
I shake the crystal ball like a snow globe. Now I see …
• Willie Colon missing 2 1⁄2 games.
• Ike Taylor missing two.
• Marcus Gilbert missing eight.
• David DeCastro missing all 13.
• Mendenhall missing several because of injury/ineffectiveness/general disinterest.
OK, so tell me: Will the Steelers have more wins than losses after 13 games? Will they still control their playoff fate?
You're laughing. No, you're crying. But you say maybe it's a blessing they'll finally have a top-10 pick again.
Now wake up! That goes for the rest of you, too: Snap back to reality. Go ask 20 other teams if they'd like to be a top-six seed — which the Steelers would be with a win Sunday.
Excuses might be tools of the incompetent, but guess what? Rational explanations are tools of the intelligent. Tomlin constantly saying "the standard is the standard" shouldn't preclude the rest of us from soberly assessing why the Steelers are just 7-6.
The primary reason should be obvious: Several of their best players went down.
Somebody asked Ryan Clark about all the "drama" this season, starting with Mike Wallace missing camp. He responded with a dose of cold, hard truth.
"I think more than anything, the drama we've had is the injuries," he said. "That's probably been a lot more difficult to overcome than a guy not coming to a football game (hello, Rashard) or a guy not coming to camp."
True, the losses to Oakland, Tennessee, Cleveland and San Diego were bad, but what about the undermanned road wins against the Giants, Bengals and Ravens?
Would you feel better if the Steelers had blown out three of those bad teams and lost to the three good ones?
You know what people would be saying then: They haven't beaten anybody.
I'm not pushing Tomlin for Coach of the Year, and he certainly is not beyond criticism. He has made tactical errors, for sure.
On balance, though, having this team in playoff position is no small feat.
Do you know how many playoff games the Dallas Cowboys have won since beating Cowher's Steelers in the Super Bowl 17 years ago?
Precisely two.
Imagine living that reality.
Joe Starkey co-hosts a show 2 to 6 p.m. weekdays on 93.7 "The Fan." His columns appear Thursdays and Sundays. He can be reached at email@example.com.
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Great news for all you Mercedes-Benz enthusiasts out there, the company just revealed its brand-new 2015 C-Class in Detroit on the eve of the North American International Auto Show.
Its always challenging to update a successful product, but in this instance the stakes were higher than the International Space Station for designers and engineers in Stuttgart. The C-Class is the top-selling model series in Mercedes vast lineup. In fact, since todays version of the car landed on the global market in 2007 more than 2.4 million of them have been sold.
Like practically every new car, the 2015 models overall dimensions have increased slightly. The wheelbase is up about three inches, supposedly to benefit taller people; the car is 1.6 inches wider while the body is nearly four inches longer. Likewise, trunk space grows to 17 cubic feet, which is close to full-size sedan territory.
The 2015 C-Class features an all-new architecture that helps it lose up to 220 pounds compared to its predecessor. The mass reduction is largely courtesy of aluminum, which makes up nearly 50 percent of the 2015 C-Class structure. Cutting the fat should help the car handle better and significantly improve fuel economy.
Two different models will launch in the United States. The C300 4MATIC is powered by a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine that delivers 241 hp and 273 lb-ft. Stepping up from there, the C400 4MATIC features a 3.0-liter turbocharged, direct-injection V6. It puts out 329 hp and 354 lb-ft. Both engines are matched to a seven-speed automatic transmission no surprise there.
Thanks to new engines and a significant weight loss this car is expected to be up to 20 percent more efficient and thats a huge improvement.
Of course the chassis also received attention. The body is supported by an all-new suspension system featuring a four-link front axle and a five-link independent rear end. The new C-Class also offers a sport suspension that lowers the ride by more than half an inch plus theres an available air suspension, which is supposedly a first for its segment.
The 2015 C-Class exterior body work isnt too different from todays model; its clearly an evolution of familiar Mercedes design cues, but the interior is a different story. The company has really stepped up its game inside.
The cabin in todays C-Class is ok but it looks a bit outdated and the materials arent that great. However, the interior of this 2015 model is something entirely different. The dashboard is deeply sculpted and features these bold-looking air vents; theres a sweeping center console thats home to the touchpad controller for the infotainment system; and then theres all-new switchgear. Its very premium in here.
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Two different display screens are available, one spanning 7 inches and another that clocks in at 8.4 and comes with the optional multimedia package. Unfortunately they both look like total afterthoughts. This awkward arrangement is reminiscent of an iPad Mini gaffer taped to the dashboard. Its totally inelegant.
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The widening from a two-lane to a five-lane highway is estimated to cost about $7 million, McGregor said. After looking at the alternatives, engineers elected to widen the road to the north to avoid parcels of land with homes on them. The land the cabinet would have to purchase is vacant wooded area under the current design. Widening to the north also allows for minimal interference with utilities, McGregor said.
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The widening of U.S. 62 is just the beginning of planned road projects intended to better connect parts of McCracken County and increase safety. The next planned project would be the so-called Inner Loop, a major reconstruction of North Friendship Road to connect U.S. 62 to Lone Oak Road. Final design on that project could take up to four years.
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Though friendly with members of the radical groups on campus, he largely steered clear of their efforts, and upon graduating pursued a career in songwriting, placing only the novelty tune "Yogi, Yogi the Fakir Man" with singer Reggie Childs. After briefly aligning with the Theater Arts Committee, sponsors of the political revue Cabaret T.A.C., Glazer in 1944 accepted the assistant education director position for the New York City Textile Workers Union, an experience that launched his interest in labor songs and lore. While visiting Southern textile communities to conduct educational meetings, he was introduced to countless labor hymns, and in 1950 recorded the LP Eight New Songs for Labor for a private label operated by the Congress of Industrial Organizations (CIO).
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This is a discussion on CC'ing when fellow employee is terrified of guns - what to do. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; This is the second time I read through this thread. I would tell her what she wants to here and carry under my clothing or ...
This is the second time I read through this thread. I would tell her what she wants to here and carry under my clothing or in a pocket. As long as she is happy what she doesn't know won't hurt her. It's kind of how some guys handle their Wife.
To the OP, I appreciate the fact that you didn't turn in your compassion in exchange for a carry permit. You are faced with situation where someone has a fear. I don't think she is trying to step on your 2a rights like some are implying. Fears are reality. You can't just discard them. Best of luck as you work through this.
Put one in a lock box in your desk perhaps?
I don't know, just trying to think of ideas...
That said, if she's threatening to leave unless she gets her way - from the outside it's easy to say 'see ya, thank you for your service'.
Well, my take on this is that "the tail (employee) is trying to wag the dog (boss)"..
I totally respect the fact that she is an integral part of your business...I respect the fact that she has the knowledge and the ability to run you business in your absence...I respect the fact that she has proven and earned your trust over her 15 years of employment...I respect the fact that YOU, as her boss, have feelings for her emotional well being and comfort while at work and it appears, to a great extent it carries over into her private life as well...It's difficult to be around someone for 15 years and not develop more than a boss/employee relationship.
With all the above, taken into consideration, I would at least sit down with her and go over each and every point that I brought out above.
Then it's time to transition into her feelings for you, as a boss and as a friend...Ask her direct and probing questions...Why have you stayed with me for 15 years, what is it that I do that encourages you to respect me as a boss, what is it that I do that causes you to respect me as an individual???
Now you've reenforced the bond between you..time to transition again..
Let her know that your business has survived and thrived, not only based her her dependability as an employee, but more importantly because of her sometimes spoken and unspoken input in regards to business decisions that you've made throughout the years. Emphasize however, it has been YOUR decisions in the end which has caused your busineess to flourish and be successful. Point out that she has never been the decideing factor in your decisions, the onus has always been on your shoulders.
Transition time again..
Now discusss the crazy social and economic environment that the world is in...Point out the businesses that have failed and are failing because of many of these factors. Let her know, that your business is of paramount importance in your life in order to support your family, and that you do understand that her position, and job is important in her economic survival as well...
Talk about the "evil" that is present in the world. Your concern as to how "evil" could affect your business, your life, the life of your family and also ultimately her life as well. Give her some examples of recent violence in the work neighborhood, your home neighborhood, her neighborhood.
Now, it's time to elaborate on WHY you feel the necessity of having a firearm(s) in your home, in your business, on your person, etc. Explain to her, that a firearm is only a tool, like the timeclock, or the calculator, or the computer. It is a tool to meet the perceived needs of yourself and your family. Let her know that your decisions are not made lightly. That you are comfortable with the tools you have chosen, your ability to operate them, and the safety necessary to prevent the wrongful use of your tools..
Invite her to your home to sit down with you and your wife. Let you both show her the tools. Let her touch the tools, learn about the tools, and offer all and anything that you can do, to help her overcome her fear or at least understand the tools themselves.
Then, let her know, that in the end, YOUR choice and YOUR choice alone is the determining factor in regards to your firearms. You hope she understands and will accept your decisions just like she's accepted your numerous business decisions over the years.
BUT, make it plain, your decision will NOT change...
Sometimes in life you have to stand your ground. It's a hard lesson to learn and even most adults don't get it, but in the end only I can be responsible for my life. If faced with any type of adversity, only I can overcome it. Waiting for someone else to take responsibility is a long fruitless wait.
It sounds like you carry IWB is she saw your belt clips. There are holster makers out there that have holsters that clip to your pants and are hidden by your belt. Or you could just wear your shirt untucked. I would suggest going into work for a few days, if the dress code allows, with your shirt untucked or wearing it "baggy" without your gun; this way she gets use to the new look and if she asks if you're carrying, you can show her that you're not. Once she gets use to the look and you've found a comfortable IWB holster, start carrying again and NEVER revile the fact you are. Or you could wear the belt over the clips that attach the holster to your pants to hide them better. Just my 2 cents. Hope you find a solution that makes everyone comfortable.
I would open carry a Smith & Wesson .500 revolver in the office if I had this problem.
The First Sgt has a good plan. He's a bit more tactful than I would be. I keep thinking that the lady, over the course of 15 years may have been given the impression that she is indispensible to the organization. It might be time to dispel that notion and introduce her to the reality that although she holds a special place as an employee she is not impossible to replace.
Frankly, her tirade seems a bit childish to me.
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I like First Sgt's plan of attack. Sounds like someone who has a lot of experience with conflict resolution.
Thanks again for the replies. It's a tough situation as she's more than just an employee really.
Heck she's babysat our kids for us on occassion - my wife and her have gone to some various shows together - her husband has done contracting work for me. It's almost like she's a sister - in fact more family than a lot of my blood really which I suppose is pretty common when you spend 8-10 hours a day with someone 5 days a week for 15+ years and you're both about the same age.
I ordered a Remora for my Shield today and will see how that works. I did carry today - via my briefcase and into my desk once I got here and back on me (with my coat) when I had to step out or go somewhere. I cc in an N82 Tactical Pro mainly because I felt it WAS a pretty darned good concealer compared to my Crossbreed Super Tuck and Old Faithful - but that darn clip is a dead giveaway if anyone has even the most basic knowledge of CC holsters. I suppose another option would be a new belt (I have an A & G now) with the velcro on the inside and the optional velcro clip arrangement. We'll see how the Remora works before I invest in another belt.
If it continues to be an issue for her we'll just have to sit down and hash things out and she'll have to decide if her employment is more important to her than not agreeing with my decision to cc and whether she can live with it. I'll have to deal with whatever fallout becomes of it - if any.
I spoke at length to my wife about it - and she agrees with me that it's my right, my building and my business and I shouldn't have to bow down to anyone - it's not like I'm running a methlab in the back for crying out loud. While my wife isn't a gun nut she did raise a valid argument if you will. She has shot my Shield, Sig and 15-22 (doesn't enjoy shooting the Glock being a .40) - but she commented on our last range trip when we took the boys shooting a couple weeks ago - the guys next to us at the range had several full auto guns. She said it sort of freaked her out a little being right next to guys she didn't know from Adam shooting full auto weapons and how for all she knew they could "just turn and blow us all away in a matter of seconds" - and she - like me grew up around guns. It did resonate a little with me that if she was slightly uncomfortable in that situation how someone with no real firearms experience could be totally irrational around any gun in the hands of anyone.
Thanks again for all the very insightful and helpful posts - they've been helpful, it means a lot to me and I appreciate them!
Hey Bill, as a long time user of the smart carry holster (about 12 years) with a S&W 4516 I can say that I don't even notice the rig. It is comfortable while standing or sitting even in the car. I wear pleated dockers and there is no way on earth anyone is going to notice short of physical contact.
The only drawback to the smart carry is that I can't draw while seated in the car so I have a second pistol in the center console of my car.


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Hey anyone whos reading this, in desperation of carb tuning I have left the safety of the real olds power forum to expand my horizons. Nobody seems to be able to fix my problem.
I have a 1966 oldsmobile f85 with a 330, converted to a four barrel with a f***ing edelbrock 1406. This thing has given me nothing but grief. My car is a stock 2 speed automatic transmission with 2.78 rear end gears. No matter what i do if i floor this car more then halfway quickly i get a bog that lasts all the way up to 4000 rpm. The thing is if i ease into the throttle EXTREMELY slowly the performance is almost decent. I have tried every combo of jets and springs and accelerator pump hole locations. Anyone else encounter this problem with an edelbrock carb?
Let me reitterate, if i floor the gas off the line quickly my car makes a 'bbuuurrrr' sound and accelerates slower then a 1.6 litre honda, and doesnt pick up until my car reaches about 55 miles per hour at 4000 rpm. But if i ease into the throttle its not nearly as bad, providing i stay out of the secondaries.
Any help is truely appreciated as I have been trying to fix this damn carburetor for about 7 months now to no avail.
i am going thru the same crap with an old holley.it's been out to 2 shops so far and has been rebuilt . it's the main reason why my 75 vette didnt see the road this year. next year i will spend 700 bucks and buy the road demon and be done with it.mike
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How did it run before you changed carbs??? Did it have the same problem???
What is the initial and total timing set at???
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I had an Edelbrock do the real bad bog thing on me too.If I stomped it,it reacted like I was pouring gas in with a funnel.My throttlle blade shaft was wore in the base,preventing the blades from operating smoothly. Plus I had a bad drip inside the carb.It was several years old with plenty of abusive miles on it.I ended up replacing the carb.Might not be your problem,but check the shaft.
How does the car idle? Does it start hard? What you've described sounds like it might be a vacuum leak on the manifold. Check all of you vacuum ports on the manifold, and also check your manifold gaskets. A leak on your intake would do exactly what you are describing. An easy way to check this is by spraying carb cleaner around the edge of the intake while the engine is running. If the idle slows down, or stalls then you have a leak. Also do this at the base of the carb.
I think you are chasing a timing problem.
It's my guess that the original setup had the distributor hooked to ported vacuum and you now have it hooked to full manifold vacuum. By accelerating at part throttle, you are building manifold vacuum and getting the advance the motor wants, or at least a portion of it. I am also assuming you are still running the stock advance weights and springs that provide a slow, short curve providing the weights are still moving freely. It's not uncommon for an engine that old to have the weights stuck from wear or rust. Dan
Hey thanks for the reply's everyone, the edelbrock carb is brand new. As far as i know my intake manifold is good its an A4 aluminum one off an '86 buick. The car didnt have this problem untill i switched the manifold and the carburetor. When I hook up a vacuum guage i'm pulling an unsteady 13-15 inches of vacuum. I have been trying to seal the egr with a blockoff plate but when i used that 'make-a-gasket' stuff the ticking from my egr plate got louder then with the original gasket/plate. Is it possible that my timing could make a bog that lasts THAT long? Or is it the egr valve not sealed? Or could it be that i need a larger accelerator pump?
Oh sorry just one more thing, I am still running points for my ignition.
Edelbrock says that you should use full time vacuum port for cars that don't have any emmisions stuff on them, so thats the port I used.
The car idles fine, the only indication that its a little choppy is from the vacuum guage fluctuates within a few inches as the engine stumbles a tiny bit....
Kay there im done
Geeze i forgot one thing, my old carburetor used to blow a bit of black smoke when i floored it, but wasnt slow at all compared to what i have now. Plus it was an old 2gc with a wiggly throttle body.
Last edited by flipp121; 12-13-2004 at 03:43 PM.
This car is not properly tuned.
What is your compression and cam, what kind of distributor are you running and what is your advance curve?
You can adjust the accelerator pump on the edelbrock right on the arm of the pump itself... just switch to a lower notch (oh higher, for that matter). Are you certain that you don't have a vacuum leak? Vacuum problems can occur all the way at the mod valve in the trans. What are your plugs reading?
Tune this car from the ground up starting with the idle circuit and timing. My guess is that you're going to have to change the vacuum level springs that hold down the rods into the jets. Stiffer springs will more than likely help, but you need to get a baseline first, otherwise you're, to be fank, pissing in the wind.
Sounds like you have a vacuum leak somewhere. With a stock cam you should be pulling 16-18 inches, and it should be fairly smooth. Get a can of carb/choke cleaner or brake parts cleaner and spray it around your manifold ports and the base of the carb. If the engine speeds up/idles better, you've found your vacuum leak. You don't use RTV or " make a gasket" on exhaust related items. Go down to your local parts house and get some gasket material made for exhaust and make your own gasket, if that doesn't work then your block off plate my be warped. You might also try advancing your timing a bit. It also wouldn't hurt to get a performance recurve kit for your dist., the stock curve is set up for emissions, not performance.
Kay, i'll put in a proper gasket and check for intake leaks. I will also advance my timing as i think its not advanced enough either. I would like to know if it is correct for me to use full vacuum port on my carburetor instead of ported?
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Avoid using a brake cleaner when checking for vacuum leaks. Why use a cleaner made for brakes on (or around) your carb when they make a cleaner specifically for carbs and throttle bodies? Using brake cleaner will be more likely to dissolve delicate plastic parts and damage an O2 sensor.
Plus, allowing brake parts cleaner into a running engine is a serious health hazard. Some of the chemicals exclusive to brake cleaner when put through a combustion process become in effect a "nerve gas".
Don't chance it, use a spray bottle with water, carb cleaner or a mechanic's stethoscope. Good luck, Ed www.edgesz28.com
I'd like to put my input on the Brake cleaner. Not all Brake cleaner has the same make up, some are nothing more than the same thing used in electrical contact cleaner. I've used Brake Cleaner/Contact Cleaner for 20+ years and reccomend it over any carb cleaner I've ever used. Carb cleaners don't evaporate as quickly so aren't as flammable, requiring more to be sprayed as well as setting on the engine longer slowly evaporating as well as attacking engine paint and some plastics. I would find a good Contact type cleaner (make sure it's a flammable one) and stay with it. I haven't used Carb Cleaner for over a decade because they seem to have worse vapor hang and have as toxic (or more )chemicals that evaporate slower,which if comes in contact with your skin, can set long enough to cause a reaction.
Not all Brake cleaner has the same make up, ...
Exactly, so why chance it. Unless you are a chemist, how do you know if one is "safer" to run through an engine then the other?
I would find a good Contact type cleaner (make sure it's a flammable one) and stay with it.
Surely you meant non-flammable
If a "one size fits all" would suffice, why were two mutually exclusive products developed. Answer: Because each is manufactured for a specific purpose. Let me draw some simple analogies. You wouldn't use gear lube in your power steering, automatic transmission, or brake system. Or 20W50 in the cooling system, power steering, etc. How about mixing diesel and gasoline. I think you get my point.
I mentioned this for one simple reason. Undoubtedly, someone will do a Google search on "how to check for vacuum leaks" and come across this thread. They will think, "I just grab that can of brake cleaner and check for a vacuum leak." Setting aside the health hazards with running brake cleaner through an internal combustion engine, they may have unknowingly damaged their O2 sensor, catalytic converter, or the TPS sensor has softened and is unable to hold its position, or something like that. Then they will have a whole new set of problems to deal with.
Ok, first of all, we are dealing with a 1966 oldsmobile f85. It has no O2 sensor, nor a catalytic converter to poison. My recommendation was made in this context. Brake parts cleaner will kill paint, but I have yet to see it eat through wires or soften any plastic fitting I have ever sprayed it on. It's not going to do any more damage to these things than carb/choke cleaner or throttle body cleaner. If somebody takes it out of context and tries the same on their 96 Camaro and it screws their TPS, then that's their fault for not thoroughly researching the topic, not mine.
As far as harmful fumes, since when is CO not harmful, or oxides of nitrogen, or even carbon dioxide in large quantities? Heck, gasoline is a major carcinogen when inhaled or on the skin. If you are working on a car, especially one that is running, you should be in a well ventilated area anyway. If you're working on a running car in a closed garage, you have far worse things to worry about than some fumes from the brake parts cleaner. To use your own arguement, How do YOU know that something like B-12 chemtool is any less toxic than brake parts cleaner when combusted? Produce some proof and I'll shut my mouth, till then, I stand firm behind my recommendation.
As far as flammability goes, you want something that vaporizes easily and is easily combustible, so that when it is drawn into the engine through a vacuum leak, it causes some kind of noticeable change in the operation of the engine, e.g. engine speeding up, so you know you've just hit a vacuum leak. This is the purpose of using the spray.
And to answer your question spinn, whether or not to use port vacuum or straight manifold vacuum is actually a bit of a debate in the world of hotrods. Some say ported, some say manifold. I myself use manifold vacuum, as it's a better, stronger vacuum signal than port vacuum and more accurately reflects the engines operating conditions. I would just try it either way and see what works best for your combination. Never hurts to experiment a little.
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If somebody takes it out of context ...
Talk about spin. You would make Clinton proud (lol). Remember, not everyone has your years of experience under their belt.
Produce some proof and I'll shut my mouth ...
How about you show me one "reputable" source that recommends the use of brake cleaner in detecting manifold/car vacuum leaks. I'm not talking about another message forum such as this, but a published/copyrighted source. I found a couple that recommend propane, stethescopes, hose, carb cleaner spray and automatic trans fluid mixed with cleaning solvent. Not one says "brake cleaner". That's for a reason, number one being liability. And, perhaps common sense.
And to answer your question spinn, ... Where did spinn ask a question in this thread?
I've made my point. Ed
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After falling 12 points behind leaders Manchester United in their bid to retain their Barclays Premier League crown, the knockout competition appears to represent City's most realistic hope of silverware.
Mancini may have rubbished suggestions he could face the sack if beaten by the Championship outfit in their fifth-round tie, but he remains aware of the game's importance.
After starting the season with such high hopes in the Premier League and Champions League, he is anxious to ensure the campaign does not disintegrate.
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Mancini was angry and heavily critical of his players after the dismal 3-1 defeat at St Mary's Stadium, which gave United the opportunity to tighten their control of the title race.
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"We did very, very badly. We didn't play as a team, we didn't fight for every ball.
"Sometimes it is impossible to win all the games because we are a better team.
"Sometimes it is important to fight because we can win 1-0 - not because we played better.
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Standing between City and a place in the quarter-finals is a Leeds side hoping to push themselves into play-off contention in the Championship.
They claimed the scalp of Premier League Tottenham in the last round but they have not won since and, after an inconsistent season, manager Neil Warnock is under pressure.
Despite that, Warnock's reputation in the game remains good and Mancini remembers how his old QPR side gave City a scare when they met at Loftus Road last season.
Mancini said: "Warnock is a top manager, he has big experience.
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Midfielder Gareth Barry is doubtful for the clash but defender Matija Nastasic if fit after further knee problems.
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Hello GSD Forums,
After visiting vonlotta this weekend in Locust Grove, GA, we found what we hope is our new puppy (have to wait until 21st). We have read as much as we can on these forums so far, by way of perusing the stickies and looking around.
What are some necessities that you all recommend that we buy to prepare for a new GSD puppy.
Any recommendations on favorite toys, chewables, crates, etc.?
Anything and everything are welcome. We are going to flood this thread with puppy pics when the time comes :)
Here are the only two photos we currently have of our girl:
Is there any specific pet pee removal spray that you all recommend. The sticky I read referred to Lifes Great Badpupp-pee stain removal aid. I can't find that online anywhere.
Buy the biggest crate you can find that comes with a crate divider for potty training. I would recommend toys that have no stuffing in them but squeak, rope toys, balls, treat dispenser toys for when he gets a little older. A cheap collar because he's going to grow out of it so quickly. An extension leash for potty time. A shorter leash for tethering him to you. A cheap bed if you want one for him. I'm saying cheap because more than likely he'll destroy them. Haha. If you can, buy some bitter apple spray for your wood furniture and invest in a good pair of shoes so he doesn't chew your toes off. Haha! :) Also invest in some vicks vapor rub for your arms after he turns into a landshark (to be used as a bite/chew deterrent on YOUR skin, not his!). An x pen if you can afford it. Some blankets to put in the bottom of his crate (so you can switch them for washing if they get accidents on them)... I would also suggest nail clippers for right after you get him home if the breeder didn't already clip them - and to get him used to them as baby. Quick stopper powder just in case... I can't think of anything else. I use Wellness puppy food for large breeds. Sometimes petco has it on sale.
And we use Folex for poop stains. I use a mix of equal parts listerine and hydrogen peroxide for urine.
I also feed my pup Wellness large breed puppy. Everyone remarks how soft and shiny her coat is and she has tons of energy.
Summer's list covers about all of it, but don't forget training treats. I mix the treats with some kibble and keep a pocketful all day. That way, I could reward good behaviors throughout the day without overfeeding of treats.
Good luck! She's adorable!
The only other things I'd add would be a squirt bottle with 50/50 bleach mix for cleaning up accidents on hard surfaces (tile or hardware floors, etc).. At a 50/50 mix it will disinfect but not be really harmful in case of accidental ingestion.
I would add a toy box. We learned the hard way to keep the destuctable toys picked up...lol. And pretty much everything is destructable. Last thing Gus chewed up was a solid rubber hockey puck.
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A large, wire crate with divider is best. You never really know what the final size of your dog will be, so you want to go with something large, but the divider is essential for puppy training.
Chew toys...and lots of them. I bought several large bags of Rawhide chips along with a bunch of No-Stuf toys. They have squeakers, but are practically indestructible. My hardcore chewer who has destroyed Kongs had a No-Stuf for 4 years. We just threw it out as no amount of washing could get the wet dog slobber smell out. A lot of them can be filled with water bottles, making it a cheap, reusable toy. I also bought several stuffed toys as they are good to put between your hand and the pup's mouth and a few of the dental rings. They have nubbies on them that seem to soothe the teething pains.
A good, strong leash.
I love Nature's Miracle. That stuff has been a life saver. It works very well on hardwood floors and their No Mark solution is the only No Mark stuff I've used that actually works. It's a bit on the expensive side, but the one gallon jug lasts me a very long time as I use it in a squirt bottle. It's always on sale on Dr. Foster and Smith's...I get it for about $15 cheaper than in Petco...so instead of the $30 plus tax bottle in the store, I get it for about $16 a gallon if not less depending on their sales. It's not uncommon to get 4- 1 gallon bottles of NM and have to add on a box of Greenies or something else to get to $50 whereas 2 gallons in the store has me over $60.
Nail trimmers and Ear Cleaner. You want your pup to get used to having its nails done and Ears cleaned. A year down the road, you'll be happy you did it.
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make sure you have a bottle of hydrogen peroxide handy... I had to make my pup puke 3 times in the first week I had her. (2 TBS down her throat according to my vets instructions!) the first time because she ate mouse poison (GASP! And had to be on Vitamin K for 3 weeks after that) and the next 2 times because she swallowed my 4 year olds socks whole.. omg. Thankfully at 5 months old, she has outgrown the need to eat anything and everything.
Oh so also... if you take the puppy places like I did, make sure those people don't have mouse poison under their bed... because your puppy will definitely look under the bed... sigh.
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