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by Tyler Durden ZeroHedge.com 10/08/2012 Given the Fed's ZIRP impact on expected returns, PIMCO notes that those approaching retirement have three choices: a) save more, b) work longer, or c) tighten their belts in retirement. If everyone saves more, we consume less, and therefore GDP growth slows down. Anemic growth leads to a Fed... »
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From Zero Interest Rate To Zero Retirement: How The Fed Doomed Elderly Americans To Endless Work
European Economic Depression Is Rapidly: It Is Just A Matter Of Time Before Things In Italy And France Get As Bad As They Already Are In Greece And Spain
Investmentwatchblog.com October 8th, 2012 The Largest Economy In The World Is Imploding Right In Front Of Our Eyes A devastating economic depression is rapidly spreading across the largest economy in the world. Unemployment is skyrocketing, money is being pulled out of the banks at an astounding rate, bad debts are everywhere and economic activity... »
US Economy in Final Death Throes
by Henry Shivley Fromthetrenchesworldreport.com October 8, 2012 I am seeing an interesting phenomenon that has been developing just over the last couple of days. The mainstream propaganda machine has come forth with a lie on the unemployment rate that they know is not believed by anyone. The stock market has been going up; heading... »
Will the American People Allow World War III to be Crammed Down our Throats?
by Rick Bronson Fromthetrenchesworldreport.com October 8, 2012 The mainstream propagandists making the case for another Middle East invasion to precipitate World War III kicked back into high gear again on Saturday with the reporting of a man dressed in an Afghan police uniform killing two more NATO soldiers as hundreds of Afghans take to... »
DECLINE, DECAY, DENIAL, DELUSION, & DESPAIR: (Must Read!)
James Quinn TheBurningPlatform.com 8th October 2012 The majority of Americans seem OK with just waddling through life, accepting the lies and misinformation blasted from the boob tube and their various iGadgets by their owners, gorging themselves to death on Twinkies and Cheetos, paying 15% interest on their $10,000 rolling credit card balance, and growing... »
Can Riots Be Predicted? Experts Watch Food Prices
by Maria Godoy Northcountrypublicradio.org High food prices have often been cited as a factor behind mass protest movements. But a group of researchers say food prices can actually be used to predict when social unrest will occur. And according to their mathematical modeling, we've hit the threshold for more waves of riots. When French... »
TSA Worker 'Smacked Me In My Testicles' For Refusing Body Scan
Federal screeners now crushing genitals as form of punishment Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com October 8, 2012 Illustrating once again how the TSA is handing out arbitrary punishments for people who exercise their right to opt out of radiation-firing body scanners, frequent flier Steven deForest described how he had his testicles "smacked" by a... »
Guest Post: The World's Largest Money-Laundering Machine: The Federal Reserve
by Charles Hugh Smith ZeroHedge.com 10/08/2012 The essence of money-laundering is that fraudulent or illegally derived assets and income are recycled into legitimate enterprises. That is the entire Federal Reserve project in a nutshell. Dodgy mortgages, phantom claims and phantom assets, are recycled via Fed purchase and "retired" to its opaque balance sheet. In... »
California Wakes Up To Another Record High Gas Price
by Tyler Durden ZeroHedge.com 10/08/2012 Gas stations across California – from San Diego to San Francisco – are seeing increasing price-sensitivity by drivers with lines at the 'cheapest' and empty lots at the priciest. It seems yet another weekend of hyperinflating gas prices has pushed the until-now seemingly uncaring-at-the-margin gasoline-'user' to seek out rationally... »
Government Killed the American Dream
Gerald Celente on our current financial, political and electoral mess LewRockwell.com Gerald Celente, famed researcher, journalist and self-proclaimed political atheist has plenty to say about the coming election and the corrupt 2-headed 1-party political system. In this interview with The Wall Street Shuffle, he says that in his entire lifetime he has never seen... »

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Students read each sentence and determine if the preposition is part of a phrasal verb or part of a prepositional phrase.
Preposition Worksheets
A preposition is a part of speech, just like a noun or a verb. It connects a noun or pronoun to another word in the sentence, showing us the relationship between them. Prepositions usually answer the questions where? or when?, telling us about a person or object's location in either time or space. This information often needs to be given using a group of words rather than a single word. We call that group of words a prepositional phrase. The printable preposition worksheets below are free to duplicate for home or classroom use.
Add a Prepositional Phrase
In this worksheet your student will add prepositional phrases to sentences.
Add the Prepositions
Students choose from a word bank of prepositions to complete a story.
Common Prepositions
This worksheet prompts students to use the common prepositions provided in a word bank to complete sentences.
Directional Prepositions
A worksheet where students complete the sentences using directional prepositions like "beyond" and "toward".
Identifying Prepositions
A preposition worksheet where students "kick-out" the non-preposition from each row of words.
Picturing Prepositions
Students look at pictures and use prepositional phrases to describe the relationship of the object to the person.
Prepositional Phrases
Students identify the prepositional phrases in each sentence by underlining the phrase and circling the preposition.
Prepositional Phrases
Students identify the prepositional phrases in each sentence by underlining the phrase and circling the preposition.
Prepositions Can Show Position in Space
A preposition worksheet that prompts students to identify prepositions that connect a noun or pronoun to its location in relation to another word.
Prepositions Can Show Positions in Time
Students identify prepositions that connect a noun or pronoun to its position in time. They circle the preposition and underline the phrase.
What is a Preposition?
For this preposition worksheet, students read the sentence, circle the preposition and underline the prepositional phrase.
Where is the Preposition?
A preposition worksheet that prompts students to select the correct "piece" of the sentence that contains the preposition.
Writing Prepositional Phrases
Your youngster will add one or two prepositional phrases to a sentence in this worksheet.


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"Take your shirt off and I'll see what I can do." If your dream is to hear Dirty Dozen vet Clint Walker grumble those words to a construction worker– and be honest, you know somewhere deep inside it is – look no further than Killdozer, the shark-jumping 1974 MFTV offering about, yes, a possessed, killer bulldozer. While the spectacle of grown men unable to evade death at the metal maw of a slow-as-molasses earthmover may not make for an ambrosial 75 minutes, there are good bits of atmosphere scattered throughout and a spectacular synth-heavy Gil Melle score-cum-soundscape to reward diligent viewers – to say nothing of being able to simply sit back and enjoy one of the more harebrained concepts ever committed to populist celluloid.
Believe it or not, KD is actually based on a '40s novella which roped in all manner of outrageous angles, including the lost city of Atlantis(!), in spinning its man v. machine web. The telefilm version, as with most vintage MFTV offerings, was forced to operate on a constrained budget and jettisoned some of those more far flung elements in favor of a stripped down look at a team of construction workers squaring off against an alien force that inhabits a two-ton bulldozer.
A pre-credit sequence sees a rogue asteroid hurtling toward Earth, landing smack in the way of a construction crew attempting to pave a runway on a Pacific island circa WWII. In the process of trying to uproot the strange obstruction, the men unleash an energy that seeps into a bulldozer (and cooks one unlucky laborer alive). It isn't long before the titular menace is operating of its own accord, smashing the crew's radio and hunting them down, resulting in a string of hilariously earnest sequences of people being silently stalked by the whirring, grinding, smoke-billowing villain. Their numbers dwindling, the remaining team members set about laying an elaborate series of traps in hopes of deep-sixing the machine, or at least the evil thriving inside it.
Quickly establishing its characters and the central predicament, the film manages to build solid atmosphere in the early going. The "stranded team of experts" trope was shopworn even in KD's day, but it works here all the same. The men themselves aren't the most original types but have the good fortune of being played by the near-standard MFTV roster of strong character players – Walker, Neville Brand, Robert Urich. Melle's score is, as usual, a highpoint. The soundscape designed to denote KD's possessed state plays like something out of an avant-garde installation piece, built from a undulating cacophony of randomly modulated tones.
The spiritual, if not literal, forbearer of such gonzo Sci-Fi Channel offerings as Boa Versus Python and Mansquito, Killdozer packs in enough genuine chills and charm to overcome the inevitable bouts of derisive laughter it engenders. Not the cream of the MFTV crop, but undoubtedly one of the field's strangest entries and a well-made thriller to boot.
Somewhat poetically, the film has popped up on Sci-Fi from time to time in recent years. The rights appear to sit with Universal, which has sadly shown little interest in raiding its back catalog. A watchful eye can still catch the film during re-broadcast, but it sure would be nice to have a spiffy legit DVD release. Are you listening, Criterion? No? OK, OK… how about Alpha? Video Search of Miami? Anyone? Hello…???


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text: A few observation for what they're worth: Memphis is a bad match-up for us. They can really negate our strengths. Bad Bynum was there tonight - He is best suited as a 10-12 minute spark when he on. DNP-CD if hes off. Most of Smiths 3's were decent shots. Playing at SF he is just going to have to shoot them as that is what the offense dictated. That said a few too many today. Stuckey looked comfortable. Way overpaid, but replace Bynum and his salary with Stuckey and that's a good player. Billups is missing something, I think ot is youth. Not sure I feel comfortable have him playing so many minutes. Don't get me wrong I like having him and he adds a lot, but not for 30 minutes a game. KCP is real. I am ready to see what Pizza Guy can do in those spare 10-15 minutes at the SF / SG postion. Sinlger is a nice player, but we need shooting, like good confident that it will go in when he has the ball shooting. 2 FUN games in a row. Can't ask for too much as a fan of a 4 straight lottery team.


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By Jamie DeBole, Founder of Texas Heat Lacrosse. Texas Heat Lacrosse was founded in 2010 and is quickly making its name as the home for everything you need to know about lacrosse in the state of Texas. Texas Heat Lacrosse also holds marquee training events with the support of partner organizations that share the common goal of building the game the right way in the pursuit of transforming Texas into the next hotbed of quality lacrosse student-athletes.
Texas lacrosse in 2012: Texas lacrosse is filled with parity this season but St. Mark's and Dallas Jesuit are emerging as this year's front-runners. St. Mark's is the early favorite due to their wealth of Division I level talent and depth at every position, and they are seeking their first-ever state championship crown. Dallas Jesuit fell just shy of winning it all last year; losing in the championship game. Their chances are strong of returning this year as they ride a formidable starting defense that's giving up less than 3 goals per game. A number of other teams, such as The Woodlands, Episcopal School of Dallas, and Westlake, have the talent to be spoilers in May this year. One traditional Texas power, Highland Park, has struggled early this season but is loaded with young talent that is capable of bringing home multiple championships over the coming years.
1. Dallas Jesuit (6-1) Dallas Jesuit has all the ingredients of a championship team. They boast the most intimidating and dominant defense in the league which is led by their embarrassment of riches at the goalie position with two Division I caliber goalies in starter Dan Morris, and backup Christian Banister. A trio of starting close defensemen in Michael McCarney, Hunter Hill, and Nico Esteve – each of whom could be a team's top defender if playing on separate teams - apply consistent defensive pressure and are able to disrupt all over the field. Senior FOGO Alex Petsos has been dominant (currently a 90% face-off win percentage) and receives great wing-play from Carson Buell. Standout junior attackman Zach Coker leads the offense while star junior midfielder Garrett Van de Ven controls the game in-between the restraining lines. Led by Head Coach Chris Surran, Dallas Jesuit is extremely well-coached and they have the talent and experience to win it all this year. The game against St. Mark's on April 19 to end the regular season schedule is circled on everyone's calendar.
2. St. Mark's (7-2) St. Mark's has talent and depth at every position and their ability to sustain early-season injuries and remain dominant has already highlighted their depth this season. A balanced and potent offense is led by experienced seniors Will Perkins and Griffin Cassagne. Do-it-all sophomore midfielder Christopher Marlow is a superstar in the making as he's an offensive threat (2nd on the team in overall points) and strong in the face-off circle (67% win-percentage). A very strong defensive unit is anchored by Bear Goldstein, Amir Saboorian, Justin Harvey, and Jay Park. Head Coach Hayward Lee has built St. Mark's lacrosse into a program that fields elite teams every year; their only two losses this season have come at the hands of Calvert Hall and St. Anne's Belfield during a Spring Break trip to the east coast. Despite their continued success is Texas, they have yet to win the elusive state championship trophy. Will this be their year?
3. The Woodlands (5-0) The Woodlands hails as the most highly-touted team from the Houston-area of Texas. They have established themselves as the early front-runner from their region again this year with some early-season wins over quality opponents. They are a well-rounded team but are best-known for being able to light up the scoreboard with a high-powered offense that features an array of weapons in Ian Seale, Spencer Willey, Ben Lipscomb, Connor Milton, Sean McCanna, and Tyler Murphy. A big game against another top-ranked district foe, Houston Christian, will be played on March 20 and will determine which team is the early favorite from the South District in this year's pursuit of a state championship crown. Head Coach Dave Seale has done an excellent job building a deep program that will yield a new crop of talent every year, so look for the Woodlands to be a force in Texas during the foreseeable future.
4. Coppell (5-0) Coppell is coming off consecutive State Championship wins in two divisions (Division II Champion in '10, Division I Champion in '11), and the expectations were not nearly as high for this year as seven of last year's starters are now on Division I collegiate rosters. However, head coach Alex Poole, in his first year at the helm of the Coppell Cowboys, has done an incredible job making this young team relevant in the 2012 state championship conversation. The Coppell offense is led by junior attackman Henry Busch, who has recorded at least 3 points in every game this season. Chase Porter, Tommy McClenahan, Nick Hruby, and Dillon Braun have been dangerous offensive weapons for this team, as well. Standout senior Zane Zoda leads the team on the defensive end of the field along with Logan McCullough, Matt Ainsworth and returning State Championship Defensive MVP, sophomore goalie Johnathan Ferree. We do not have to wait long for the Coppell Cowboy's first big test, as they face the Episcopal School of Dallas on March 20.
5. The Episcopal School of Dallas (3-2) The Episcopal School of Dallas (ESD) boasts a rich lacrosse tradition with high expectations. Despite leading the team to championship weekend last year, ESD parted ways with former head coach Kevin Barnicle, and, after a lengthy search, brought in new Head Coach Pat Kennedy, a former national championship winner at Syracuse who has spent the last five years at the helm of The College of Mount St. Joseph. Despite a couple of early-season losses, Kennedy has the ESD Eagles in great position to make a run at the state championship crown this year as this team is currently playing at a very high level. Their potent offense is led by two committed Division I midfielders in Hayden Wilson and Barrett Anigian. Sophomore attackmen Richie Loftus and Jack Beare have been sensational, and they have a budding star in freshman midfielder Sam Romano. They are talented and experienced at the defensive end of the field, as well, with standout seniors Wells Waller and Hunter Moore leading the defensive effort.
6. Westlake (4-3) Westlake has survived a brutal early-season schedule without their star goalie, Jackson Grimes, and their losses have come in close games to teams ranked above them. Grimes is now back in the lineup and that may spell bad news for the rest of the teams on Westlake's regular-season schedule. Head Coach Evan Whelchel fields a fast, athletic team with plenty of depth. Their offense is led by attackman Jacob Rockwell, who is having a fantastic senior season. Hayden Byrd, Tanner Thompson, Matthew Gabriel, and Blake Kemper have made strong offensive contributions, as well. Junior star LSM, Michael Edwards, is able to dominate the middle of the field and the face-off circle, and senior Connor White anchors the defensive back-line. All the pieces still need to come together for Westlake this season, but they have the talent to be playing for the State Championship in May.
7. Westwood (4-0) Westwood has largely been flying under-the-radar this season despite some solid early-season wins. A win over Westlake on March 21 in a big Central District matchup would change all of that. Head Coach Jamie Booth has done a great job bringing this team together, as they lack the depth of star power that some of the other top teams in the state currently enjoy. However, the team is not lacking in overall talent or in their ability to play as a solid, cohesive unit. Midfielders Michael Morgan and Lance Ingram lead the team on the offensive end of the field. Seniors Christopher Adams and Matt Gillham lead the effort to protect junior standout goal-keeper, AJ Anderson, on a defense that has held some potent offensives to very few goals this year.
8. Houston Christian (5-1) Houston Christian is led by coach Pete Lehle, who has a long and distinguished coaching career. Coach Lehle, for the second straight year, is fielding a contending team despite this only being Houston Christian's fifth year as a program. Houston Christian is known for having an explosive offensive which is led by Bucky Desadier, Garrett Fales and Brooks Lehle at the attack position, and Ivan Morris and Connor Pryor at the midfield. Less regarded but equally impressive is Houston Christian's defense, which is led by seniors Zach Finger and Hayden Sterling. They have helped goalie Malchy Lyons-Letts post the lowest goals-against-per-game average in Houston over the last two years.
1. Dan Morris, Dallas Jesuit, Goalie, Maryland Morris is widely regarded as the best goalie in the state and committed to Maryland during his sophomore season. He has extremely quick hands and is great in the clearing game; throwing sharp outlet passes that spark Jesuit's transition game. He is a returning All-State player and has 17 saves while allowing only five goals during three appearances this year.
2. Bear Goldstein, St. Mark's, Defense, Princeton Goldstein is extremely talented and many would refer to him as the state's best out of a loaded crop of defenders. His talents were noticed by a number of elite Division I schools and he has been one of the more heavily-recruited prospects in Texas history. A great on-ball defender with a variety of stick-checks and a nose for ground balls, he has 23 caused turnovers and 29 groundballs through nine games this season.
3. Michael McCarney, Dallas Jesuit, Defense, Undecided McCarney has flown under-the-radar in the recruiting scene but he is arguably the best player on a loaded Dallas Jesuit team. At 6'4, he is physically imposing, fast, aggressive, and has not been beaten for a goal all season. He has been on the winning end of all his matchups against Division I committed players so far this year. Through six games he has recorded 13 groundballs and has 15 caused turnovers.
4. Ian Seale, Woodlands, Attack/Midfield, Fairfield Seale is an extremely gifted offensive player; a shifty dodger and a natural goal-scorer who scores with a variety of shots and from numerous angles. He is a two-time All-State player and is headed towards becoming the all-time points leader for Woodlands. He was an All-American nominee last year.
5. Hayden Wilson, Episcopal School of Dallas, Midfield, Hofstra Wilson may be the fastest midfielder in the state and he is a major offensive threat with a great shot-on-the-run. He is a two-way midfielder who plays solid defense, as well. He has the ability to control the game in-between the restraining lines and is having a fantastic 2012 season.
6. Zane Zoda, Coppell, Defense, Stevenson Zoda was overshadowed last year by Coppell's former defensive star now playing at Syracuse, Brandon Mullins, but Zoda is equally impressive on the field. A gifted athlete with incredible stick skills, Zoda has made a name for himself as an elite defender in the state this season among a loaded group of defensive talent. He is also an offensive threat in transition.
7. Michael Edwards, Westlake, LSM/Defense, Undecided Edwards has flown under-the-radar in the recruiting circuit but that will not last long as he has broken out this season as a junior. He is athletic and electrifying between the restraining lines. He possesses exceptional stick skills, a variety of stick-checks, and is strong in the face-off circle, winning 63% of his draws on the season. He is a returning All-State player and has two goals and three assists through six games this season.
8. Garrett Van de Ven, Dallas Jesuit, Midfield, Duke Van de Ven is arguably the most athletic midfielder in Texas and does a great job running the field and controlling the game in-between the restraining lines for the current top team in the state. He is a returning All-District player and through six games in 2012 has accounted for 12 goals and 3 assists with 10 groundballs.


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Woman testifies about MTSU player's fatal stabbing
MURFREESBORO, Tenn. (AP) – The young woman charged with fatally stabbing a Middle Tennessee State University women's basketball player has testified that she wanted to kill herself afterward.
Sobbing on the stand, 19-year-old Shanterrica Madden said Saturday that she wished she had turned the knife on herself after the March 2011 fight with her MTSU roommate, Lady Raiders basketball player Tina Stewart.
The confrontation took place after the 21-year-old Stewart called a courtesy officer to report Madden for smoking marijuana.
Madden said she was scared and in pain when she grabbed a knife from Stewart's bed and stabbed her.
She's claimed self-defense.
District Attorney General Bill Whitesell suggested that Madden hid the knife in her bra and backed Stewart into a corner before killing her.
Testimony concluded Saturday afternoon. The jury begins deliberations Monday.
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i have a huge problem...when i connect normal tangent created in zbrush 4r6 to the xsinormal3 node i have all the seams visible both in view port and in render.
i have read all the posts arund and the only one who say to have a solution is a guy that suggest to use the bump generator...but it doesn't work with normal maps.
I have checked the V orientation of the texture and is ok, i have added the tangent operator..and i have tested the same in arnold for maya...and there i have no problem..so is a problem of xsi..
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The first week of college football is almost in the books. While there are still a lot of games to be played this year, here are a few things that we learned in Week 1.
In just a few short hours, college football season will officially be here. It's that happy time when everyone is undefeated and every team just knows it is finally their year. But the good times can't last forever. Here are five burning questions as we enter the 2013 football season:
After back-to-back championships, Alabama is a heavy favorite this year to become the first team to win three straight titles, capturing 58 out of 60 first place votes in the AP's preseason poll. But Ohio State, Oregon, Stanford and Georgia round out the top 5 and will be gunning for the Crimson Tide. Here is a complete rundown of the preseason Top 25.
There are millions of college football fans who don't live in reality. Every game the team lost was "rigged." Every school except theirs is cheating. The school is never, ever in the wrong except when the NCAA proves the school was in the wrong.
Whether it's the good kind of adventure ("Welcome to McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas") or the bad one ("This plane is being taken out of service."), flying the friendly skies these days always holds an element of risk.
Those long-handled putters that have become fairly popular on the professional golf circuit could soon be obsolete after the U.S. Golf Association and the Royal and Ancient Golf Club—the official governing bodies of The Rules of Golf voted this week to ban "anchoring" a club while putting.
A 12-year old in Massachussetts has been banned from pitching for his little league team, because he is too good.
A promising football star has had his scholarship offer revoked, leaving him plenty of time to pursue his true calling as a rapper.
Riding a motorcycle at 200+ miles per hour with just a helmet and some thin racing gear as the only things between you and possible death is pretty impressive. It's even impressive when you fall off the bike and escape with nothing more than a broken foot and an insane case of road rash.
We've all had those late-night "run for the border" cravings for a taco. But would you still be hungry if your taco was made out of . . . lion?
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Thanks to all the readers and fellow bloggers, especially CifWatch who recently helped our expose of Ahmed Shihab-Eldin's love for Carlos Latuff get more attention. Have a happy and safe holiday, wherever you are.


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Clarify CK relationships
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I sometimes enter CK relationships, and never know which direction to use.
Timna Brauer is Arik Brauer's Daughter. If I enter that should it read Brauer, Arik (daughter) or Brauer, Arik (father)?
The examples don't help me. If an example contained both the author whose page it was on and the related person of the other sex, it would be crystal clear.
In the parentheses you put the relation of the person whose name you just typed to the person whose CK page you're on. The word(s) in parentheses tell you who the person is/was.
Perhaps it could be added to the examples that they all are for Aldous Huxley?
yes it would be an idea to have an example on the page.
Looking I notice someone used the all purpose sibling for Charles on Mary Lamb's on her page.
we could start
maybe if gave Spot(dog) as an example relationship. that would be sufficient.
Showing one person and the unambigiously related the examples would be better, If only Charles and mary had a few more relationships listed they would be ideal. the Durrells to show only filial relationships, Can any one think of some with both filial and professional relationships with other authors?
3> But that still only helps if you know how those people are related.
I still have no idea whether I did it right or not.
Urgh While I was editing Yes Anglemark of course the present example shows a variety.
I think the ideal example would show a relationship that involved different sexes. Brother when referring to two men is still ambigious in its direction, something that brother/sister husband/wife, owner/dog relationships make explicit.
How telling it is that I places those relationships in such a patriarchal order.
If we are are on Aldous Huxley's page and we see
Huxley, Julian (brother), we must interpret that ALDOUS is Julian's brother.
Orwell, George (student), and ALDOUS is Orwell's student.
Huxley, Leonard (father), and ALDOUS is Leonard's father.
So this on Timna Brauer's page
Brauer, Arik (father) would mean TIMNA is Arik's father.
The examples are ambiguous unless you KNOW, (as wikipedia does), that ALDOUS is actually Leonard's son!
So Julian is his brother. (useless as an example because brothers ARE brothers)
Leonard is his father... (you shouldn't have to go look that up)
so George Orwell was Aldous' student?? (who knew? who knows these things?)
and thus Arik is Timna's father.
I agree that the examples could be (should be) improved, but as I wrote, the word(s) in parentheses tell you who the person before the parentheses is/was. It's perfectly parallel to Tolkien, JRR (author). Why would it be different here?
Why is someone's student in the "relationship" field anyway? Might as well have "next door neighbor".
10> Professional relationships are quite proper to include, That you or I may not consider a particular relationship noteworthy does not mean it is of no merit. if it has been entered then it is because someone considers it noteable.
> 11
"Professional relationships are quite proper to include".
No, they're not.
See the CK wiki page: We've also added a "Relationships" field, intended to capture when an author's spouse, son or other relative is also an author
Given that one of the examples that staff put in the examples next to the field is "Orwell, George (student)," I think it's safe to say that the relationships in that field need not only be familial.
However, some judgment is needed about notability, both of the relationship and of the people. The relationship between Huxley and Orwell is particularly notable, I assume, because both are well known and it's an interesting fact given their writings (even if, afaik, Huxley only taught Orwell for a very brief time). Similarly, the fact that one philosopher or scientist was the student of another may well be noteworthy.
On the other hand, I've seen a lot of people just list spouses' or children's names in that field, when those people are neither authors nor any kind of public figure. As far as professional relationships go, some are not noteworthy enough to go in there; there was a discussion once about co-authors and, if I'm remember correctly, the conclusion was that that was not significant enough.
ETA, this is from conceptdawg's semi official comments on co-authors, and it bears on this question of professional relationships. He said that co-authors don't belong there, and should be listed using the authors field. By contrast,
He also said "collaborator" needs to mean something long-term, something more than just co-authorship on a book or an article.
Concerning the original post, I too have the same confusion/doubt each time I add a relationship, and think clarification right there in the example text is in order.
I got here tonight because I found an example where somebody entered things the opposite way of what I had been doing and made me doubt all my edits (the person was the son of the person they were listing in that field, so they wrote "(son)"). I don't know the Huxley family tree and don't want to have to look it up each time.
I think simply adding an opposite-sex example would really help, e.g. "Huxley, Laura Archera (wife)".
>14 omargosh:
It doesn't solve the generational problem, but I've taken to entering gender-neutral roles: spouse, sibling, parent, etc.
>15 PhaedraB: It doesn't solve the generational problem ...
"family line"? "lineage"? "asc/descendant"? "progeny/itor"? Wait, some of those could involve grandparents/grandkids. Shoot. Would "from the loins of" work? :-p
>16 omargosh: I think "parent," "child", "grandparent" etc. would work, but it doesn't clarify the opposites problem, i.e., is it John Smith, Jr. (child) on John Smith, Sr.'s profile, or the other way 'round? Personally, I believe John Smith Jr. (child) is correct. If it's not, I have entered a whole heck of a lot of bad CK.
From the help page (https://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Common_Knowledge#Relationships):
The entry should be in Lastname, Firstname format, just like Canonical Name, and the relationship should appear in parentheses. The relationship is who that person is in relation to the current person, e.g. on Isabel Fonseca's page, Martin Amis is listed as Amis, Martin (husband).
But nobody reads that, so I agree that the examples should be clarified.
Perhaps it would help to add something like "The entries should be read as name is the author's relation. For example, Huxley, Leonard (father) means Leonard Huxley is the author's father."
>12 lilithcat:
I agree wholeheartedly with this post, only adding that "is also an author" should have been in bold as well.
I confess to (very occasionally) deleting names of 'all rabbit's friends and relations' when they are not writers. Of course that still leaves the forlorn empty 'author' pages stuck in the system.
>17 PhaedraB:
Sorry if it wasn't clear, I was actually just kidding about all those options in 16. :-) And looks like you're doing it right.
>18 r.orrison:
Ah, I see you edited things since I saw your message last night before heading to bed: "But nobody reads that, so I agree that the examples should be clarified." Exactly. While I very much appreciate your always helpful feedback, the point is that we shouldn't have to bother. I shouldn't have to ask for input in Talk, or hunt down the Huxley family tree, or know about the wiki, and you shouldn't have to waste your time responding to my queries (sorry this is coming across as ungrateful ... I'm not! :-)), when there's an easy way to make it clearer right there in the contextual help text. Hence posting here in RSI instead of the CK group.
>19 abbottthomas:
Yeah, the help text could also clarify this. I recall finding on the Stephen Colbert page that somebody had gone to all the trouble of listing his wife and kids. Felt bad about undoing their efforts, but I knew the kids were just little'uns, and the wife's page was just blank. Thought it's not always easy to tell. In my example from yesterday, there was actually a spelling discrepancy that had it leading to a blank page, but the guy's father was indeed an author with works in LT.
>11 SimonW11:
>13 rsterling:
Maths Genealogy Project http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/index.php anyone?
For those who don't know that allows you to find out doctoral advisors/supervisors (amongst other things). It is probably the best and most complete academic genealogy I've seen.
Some terms at least are bi-directional, like "sibling" or "spouse". At least if de-gendered.
For unidirectional terms, why not eliminate ambiguity in the text of the parenthetical, rather than hoping that the reader understands which form LT has standardized on? (assuming LT does standardize on a form)
Charlotte Bronte
- Emily Bronte (sibling)
- Anne Bronte (sibling)
- Branwell Bronte (sibling)
- Patrick Bronte (Charlotte's father)
22 --
1) Why are you using "siblng" instead of "sister" and "brother"? It seems clearer when it is more specific.
Charlotte Bronte Page:
• Bronte, Emily (sister)
• Bronte, Branwell (brother)
Why say "Charlotte's father" when the name Patrick Bronte can appear on Charlotte's page as
• Bronte, Patrick (father)
2) I use teacher/student when it seems significant, though I realize it could get out of hand. Any relationship list could get out of hand, but for me that is not a problem. I trust my judgment. I can't speak for others.
>23 barney67:
Although the question was not addressed to me, I began using "sibling" and "spouse" and "parent" when I had an AHA! moment about binary gender assumptions. Probably comes from knowing two friends who have children transitioning gender. And my late husband had an ex-wife who transitioned to male. If he (the ex) were an author, "spouse" would feel more appropriate than "wife."
I can see why you would use those terms in real life, because that is your experience. But it isn't mine and it isn't the majority's, and I feel that on a web site, even a peculiar one like LibraryThing, ought to consider the consensus rather than the minority. That's why I use husband rather than spouse, because it is probably what the majority here know or use or both.
I am aware that these comments may be unpopular with the few, but among the many they are probably the norm.
>25 barney67: The norm, perhaps, but norms are not ideals. The inclusion of other/unknown/disputed under gender is an example of an inclusionary solution.
"Sibling," "spouse" or "parent" convey the relationship perfectly clearly. Aside from personal preference, I don't see where there would be any problem using them. I'm not going to get into an editing war over it, but I am not going to change the way I'm doing it, and I hope by discussing it, other people will consider it themselves. But if they don't, no harm on either side.
"Sibling," "spouse" or "parent" convey the relationship perfectly clearly
-- But they don't. A sibling could be either a brother or sister. The word "sibling" destroys that distinction. It's not personal preference. The meaning is conveyed only through the more specific term, not the vague one.
> 27
My understanding (per > 22) is that the original argument for using de-gendered terms like "spouse" and "sibling" was that they're bi-directional . . .
Ex. If author Zelda Pafufnik is married to author Rolf Throttlebottom, it's never been entirely clear whether, when you list Rolf under "relations" on Zelda's CK page, it should be:
Rolf Throttlebottom (husband) . . . as in "Rolf is/was husband to Zelda, whose CK page this is"
Rolf Throttlebottom (wife) . . . as in "Zelda, whose CK page this is, is/was wife to Rolf"
Using "spouse," or "sibling" was a work-around for that . . . though one that, alas, doesn't scale to cross-generation relationships.
23 > The reason that I listed in this thread for non-gender-binary terms is that it can avoid linguistic confusion that otherwise would require additional disambiguation, as was described in the first 21 messages.
So your question, "1) Why are you using "siblng" instead of "sister" and "brother"? It seems clearer when it is more specific."
Yes, it's "more specific", but because it is gender-specific, the specificity can thus require additional disambiguation. Frankly, can and should, because how else can a reader know who's a brother or sister? (see the first 21 messages) But "sibling" or "spouse" work just fine.
** Just as #28 said.
The argument for gender-non-specificity that #24 mentions is also relevant. As for, "But it isn't mine and it isn't the majority's," -- I submit that most people know some same-sex couples, or know of some same-sex couples. So you may wish to reconsider.
As for the inter-generational relations (or other more complex relationships) -- I strongly urge that we simply spell out the relationship in the CK. Even if we settle on a format for LT, it's going to leave a significant percentage of readers confused. There doesn't seem to be any downside to saying "(Charlotte's sibling)" or "(Charlotte's brother)".
The problem with same-sex couples is to know what to call a partner. 'Partner' usually seemed OK although there can be confusion with professional partners, but since civil partnerships and, now, same-sex marriages are common should one be more specific. I have heard a woman describe her (female) partner as her 'wife' - although never as her 'husband'. Does 'spouse' imply a formal relationship? My head hurts! ;-)
* spouse implies a formal wedded relationship and is AFAIK always appropriate for those circumstances, same-sex or opposite-sex (or for that matter polygamist).
* "partner" or "companion" are for informal non-wedded relationships and are similarly appropriate for same- or opposite-sex relationships. They're not precisely analogous because they don't necessarily denote a sexual component to the relationship. Although I guess that's not untrue for spouse, either.
I have just been entering CK data for George Barker and Elizabeth Smart and went along with (lover) that had already been entered as their relationship. The couple, who did not marry, had four children (two on LT as authors) and a long term, though not monogamous, relationship. Barker fathered another 11 children, I think, with other women. Somehow (lover), although presumably accurate, seems a bit inadequate for the Barker/Smart ménage.
>29 lquilter:
I submit that most people know some same-sex couples, or know of some same-sex couples.
Yeah, but that's not quite the issue here. I call my wife my wife, and she does the same for me; all our married lesbian friends I can think of do the same, and likewise with "husband" for our married gay male friends. If I hear someone referring to their "spouse", it's either a case where their spouse doesn't identify on the gender binary or where they prefer not to disclose the sex of their spouse. This may be regional and/or age-based variation; I do know a lot more people used "spouse" when they were closeted, or when they couldn't be legally married.
I do agree with the use of the gender-neutral term, but for gender binary reasons, not sexual orientation reasons.
> 33 My partner & I generally use "partner" unless she's really trying to annoy me. (She will put "Mrs." on my airline tickets.) I use "spouse" in certain professional circles.
My sexual orientation reason is sort of an offshoot of the CK relationship thing that started this here. And, warning, not helpful:
I don't like "wife" or "husband" as a status of an individual; they're relational titles, so there's at least as good a claim to someone being married to a woman being a "husband", and thus same-sex-female relationships are both husbands, and vice versa for male relationships both being wives. Socially speaking, though, most people identify their their (potential) relational role strongly with their gender ... so lesbians are wife-wife, and gay men are husband-husband. That's an embedded gender binary that makes me uncomfortable. The fact that the terms "wife" and "husband" come with a lot of historical and legal baggage make me even more uncomfortable. So, I avoid them.
And, returning to the broader conversation: If we all just use the polite, accurate, unambiguous, and completely uncontroversial terms "sibling" and "spouse", then we can avoid the hermeneutics of parentheticals and gender-relational titles alike.
"I submit that most people know some same-sex couples, or know of some same-sex couples."
-- We'll have agree to disagree on this one. I don't know any. But I'm not sure it's relevant.
"went along with (lover)"
-- I've seen the use of "lover" and I'm not fond of it. I delete it. I have neither the desire, the time, nor the ability to know who is in love with whom, whether in the present or the past. That is far too complex for something like CK. As someone mentioned, "partner," "companion," and other common terms have traditionally been asexual words, or now, at least multiple definitions
When I see the use of terms like "binary gender assumptions, transitioning gender, de-gendered," in someone's post, keep in mind that most people don't talk this way. Most people don't think this way. I'm guessing maybe 90%. Just as they don't know what disambiguation is. I write to you now as an American midwesterner who has been in both intellectual and non-intellectual circles, so to speak, to make a gross simplification. Call it the democrat in me.
Again, I have neither the time, desire, or ability to determine if Willa Cather or Marianne Moore were lesbians and what the nature of their relationships with men and women were. For my part, I don't care. I like their work and that's what matters. Perhaps our world is unpardonably nosy. I don't know how to fit a vague, complex word like "love" into a square printed box. Relationships take many shapes.
Please understand that I am not trying to insult anyone. I like to tell people how I am doing CK. I also like to see it done uniformly because I think it benefits all. Often I have had to remind myself of a lesson I have had to learn the hard way over years. Whether in writing, making speeches, or even in conversation, keep in mind who your audience is.
>34 lquilter:
That's fair, and an entirely understandable stance. The historical baggage associated with the word "wife" doesn't bother me personally, and for me the value in being able to communicate the nature of my relationship by saying "my wife" as a woman outweighs it; society is heteronormative enough that if I refer to 'my spouse' when she isn't present and I don't use her name (which is gendered) people will assume I'm talking about a man, which bothers me. I'm just explaining my own reasoning, though, not trying to convince you to change your own usage!
And, returning to the broader conversation: If we all just use the polite, accurate, unambiguous, and completely uncontroversial terms "sibling" and "spouse", then we can avoid the hermeneutics of parentheticals and gender-relational titles alike.
>35 barney67: When I see the use of terms like "binary gender assumptions, transitioning gender, de-gendered," in someone's post, keep in mind that most people don't talk this way. Most people don't think this way. I'm guessing maybe 90%.
That's unfortunate, and it's something that I think is worth working to change. However, for this particular issue, it's not a case of newly coined words that are going to confuse anyone; it's a case of using commonplace English words that are immediately understood, though, so if those 90% don't know why someone uses "spouse" they'll still understand the word - it's not like the title "Mx" (which I only recently encountered myself) that might appear to be an error.
>35 barney67:
"For my part, I don't care."
You seem to care enough to delete it when other people have entered it in CK.
"I don't know how to fit a vague, complex word like "love" into a square printed box. Relationships take many shapes."
And how is that different from the "friend" relationships that you do deem ok to enter? Would you mind people deleting those friendships that you've entered because they "have neither the desire, the time, nor the ability to know" who is friends with whom?
ETA: In 35, barney67 originally discussed adding friend relationships, but seems to have removed that, which is fine, whatever, but I'm noting it so that my reply doesn't make me look too much like a crazy person making stuff up. :-)
>35 barney67:
I "went along with" (lover) because I generally don't alter CK that reflects differences in opinion rather than inaccuracies of fact. The pedant in me goes to the dictionary - Lover: someone who loves, esp someone in a sexual relationship with another person (Chambers 10th ed.). In the example I gave the couple had AFAIK shared in the conception of four children over a number of years (OK, who really knows, but Mr Barker did accept paternity) so the term is accurate enough by that definition. I'm not sure what I would have put instead: it didn't seem quite right but wasn't, for me, wrong enough to change.
>37 omargosh: Yes, friends - that's something else! I have recently noted a couple of criminal trials in which the press reported that the accused had been found guilty of murdering "a friend". Maybe I will delete (friend) when I see it ;-)
>39 lilithcat:
That certainly sounds more romantic!
I can't help but view the deletion of (lover), in this context, as a deliberate and calculating act of closeting.
I'm going to contribute to this conversation by running an analysis of what people are actually putting in the parentheses here.
Here's everything above 50:
3,701 (wife)
3,358 (husband)
3,028 (father)
2,569 (son)
2,274 (brother)
1,699 (daughter)
1,593 (friend)
1,319 (mother)
1,130 (sister)
684 (spouse)
526 (grandfather)
466 (uncle)
452 (cousin)
446 (student)
428 (teacher)
370 (grandson)
355 (nephew)
310 (partner)
233 (lover)
232 (granddaughter)
215 (brother-in-law)
211 (niece)
206 (aunt)
190 (colleague)
173 (sister-in-law)
164 (grandmother)
161 (father-in-law)
144 (co-author)
137 (testcase)
135 (son-in-law)
135 (collaborator)
124 (ex-husband)
118 (ex-wife)
108 (husband|divorced)
106 (co-editor)
105 (great-grandfather)
98 (mentor)
96 (wife|divorced)
91 (great-grandson)
78 (doctoral student)
72 (doctoral advisor)
67 (Husband)
64 (daughter-in-law)
59 (Father)
59 (half-brother)
58 (Wife)
57 (PhD advisor)
53 (companion)
Here are some onesies:
1 (aide to)
1 (architect)
1 (husband), Chandler Washburne (Son), Margaret Washburne (Daughter), Julia Davis Chandler (Mother)
1 (PHK is nephew to BK)
1 (3)
1 (Nell's father)
1 (father)(Boston newspaper editor)
1 (wife & co-author)
1 (Irene's sister-in-law)
1 (co-author, romantic partner)
1 (grandfather)(RI newspaper editor)
1 (wife) benedict daniels (son)
1 (great-great-great uncle)
1 (bruder)
1 (bandleader)
1 (wife, married 1905-11-11)
1 (husband and editor)
1 (Moore) (wife)
1 (Irene's cousin)
1 (husband), Kaity (daughter), Travis (son), Ryan (son)
1 (Rulon's nephew)
1 (teammate at UCLA)
Ha. You might also want to look at what people are putting in the field in general, not just in the parentheses. Things like: "married, two kids" or "seven children" or "twin daughters."
(47: If I remember correctly, he uses that field to force-create author pages.)
That explains garbage like this.
Honestly, some people should be barred from "helping".
What would be interesting would be how many of those are used in the inverted sense. What this thread originally pointed out was that since all people in the example text are male, unless you have prior knowledge of their relationships you don't know whether Y (father) in the CK Relationships field for X means that X is Y's father or that Y is X's father.
LibraryThing in general favors popular over "right." The primary title for a work is the name it's known by. Authors too.
If we follow that rule here, we'd notice that "wife" and "husband" are used ten times more than "spouse." "Brother" and "sister" are far more than that--used 3,404 times, whereas "sibling" isn't on the list at all. (I looked and it's currently used only six times!)
That said, I'm not at all inclined to insist on the more common terms. Unlike for works and authors, the data stakes here are not high, as they sometimes are elsewhere. Having LibraryThing call it "Братья Карамазовы" instead of "The Brothers Karamazov" or the correct, but seldom used, "The Karamazov Brothers" would confuse members. Ditto Samuel Clemens instead of Mark Twain; people would say "Who's he?" That's not true here. People understand all these terms. And if we ever wanted to "use" the relationship data, LibraryThing's crack programmers could figure out a way to understand "brother," "sister" and "sibling" as the same essential relationship.
So, my inclination would be that we should use the terms we want to use, and, to avoid fights, avoid messing with others people's work unless it's actually wrong. All the terms above are acceptable because they are easily understood and, if necessary, can be parsed by a computer into something richer at a later date.
If someone wants to use the data to score points—replacing all "wives" with "domestic slave," or removing all references to same-sex marital relationships or second marriages, on the grounds these "aren't real"—that would be another thing entirely. It would be both offensive and destructive of data.
In my own practice, I favor saying that Kingsley and Martin Amis are father and son, not parent and child. But I'd use sibling if I had the sense the author would prefer that term, or I could reasonably infer a potential issue from the various options in the gender field—or if I'm being lazy and want to paste in five siblings and change as few words as possible.
As for "lover" and so forth, I think descriptive terms are descriptive, and more data is often better. Looking at my list, I see terms like "paramour," "co-conspirator," "shipmate," and "second cousin 1x removed" and think, "Hey, who's that?!" Obviously I'd remove designations designed to cause offense, but I'm not spotting any.
Anyway, that's my feeling. Fire away.
PS: I do see that "sibling" has the distinct advantage of thwarting directional mistakes. But I'd rather improve the prompt, or the user interface, than force people to use a term that's been so rarely used. Also, while sibling solves that problem, we can't solve the directionality problems of parent and child that way.
Looks like that's just the English relationships too. Was kinda surprised there was only 1 "bruder". Looks like a search reveals more like ~250 "Bruder"s. Don't know the German for "lover", but there are 44 listings for amante, half of which seem to be for Alexandre Dumas, haha.
Yes. I only did English. If you want another language, pick it.
Here's another "test case" - http://www.librarything.com/author/millontheodore - this man went to school with Maurice Sendak. They both used to draw on the blackboard together. What is their relationship?
BTW I did like (bandleader)
Nah, was just making a note of it, but thanks for the offer. What I would like is better contextual help text, though! :-) (Unless you're saying there is no "wrong" way to do the child-parent order thing?)
>56 lquilter:
Since your opinion seems to differ from mine, and frankly because you so often speak sense, what do you think of my data and conclusions?
Hi Tim -- I think what you said in #51 is eminently sensible! My distillation: Don't mess with someone else's CK unless it's WRONG, or HARMFUL.
The data is not surprising -- of course most people use the conventional wording "husband" and "wife". Actually that's wrong; it is a little surprising. I would have expected a lot more things like "1 (husband), Kaity (daughter), Travis (son), Ryan (son)" in the onesies. We CK-habituees try to clean that sort of thing up, of course, and I guess we do a better job than I would have imagined.
The original problem, though, is directionality -- When we say, on A's page, "B (Ph.D. advisor)", do we mean that A advised B, or B advised A? * I'm switching to "Ph.D. advisor" as my go-to example since it's clearly directional and doesn't involve the other issues.*
I'm not convinced that better signage will solve it. Sadly, after working in libraries for many years, I've come to conclude that signage doesn't really help. (-:
>58 lquilter: "I've come to conclude that signage doesn't really help"
I think it does. It doesn't prevent those who can't be bothered to read the signage from screwing things up, but at least the people who care and pay attention will know what to fix it to.
Yes, to go with the library analogy, it's like not putting out classification labels on the shelves. Sure, people will put books in the wrong places whether you do or you don't, but the librarians need them to put the books right again.
Having spent decades in retail, I can assure you that people do not read signs :-)
It's a truism in retail that you can have a huge sign giving prices but you'll still have customer after customer come and ask you how much it costs. And as for return policies or credit card policies or anything in a more arcane realm than pricing, forget it.
In retail, you can you can use price stickers to solve some problems, but I don't think that would work for CK. Although, the image of Tim with a CK sticker gun is somehow appealing...
>58 lquilter:, >59 LShelby:. >61 PhaedraB:
The Great Unwashed™ may be unhelpable, but for us weirdos that do read signs, at least some of the time, it would be much appreciated if the instructions were clearer wrt directionality. I was entering a father-son relationship recently and the most time-consuming part of it was trying to figure out the directionality.
(Feel free to check if I eventually got it right - Bernard S. Bachrach is the father of David S. Bachrach.)
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Even if it did take two years to learn that.
Off topic:
I gave up on 'sibling' a long time ago. Mom always used it, but it upset an early teacher (kindergarden, 1st grade) to have a child talk about her siblings. Luckily German has 'Geschwister' which is perfectly acceptable for general use, but only exists in the plural.
// Lucky Germans! One does need 'sibling' if only to be part of the (very necessary) term 'sibling-rivalry' ;-) //
#63 by MarthaJeanne> 'Geschwister' can only be used in the plural? How inconvenient. I feel fortunate that 'syskon' can be used both as a plural and a singular in Swedish and that we have specific words for paternal grandparents versus maternal grandparents.
My big dictionary allows it in the singular for biology, statistics, and poetical use. The Ge- part is a collective prefix, so singular use feels wrong. In general, if you can know the gender, you are expected to use it.
Ah, yes, I'd forgotten that one: 'Geschwisterchen'. With a diminutive suffix it can be used in the singular when talking to a child about an expected new baby in the family. And 'Geschwisterkind' is not a singular sibling, but the child of a sibling = niece or nephew.
I am sure that having separate words for maternal and paternal grandparents can be useful. But can you easily say, 'We are expats, so the boys don't really know their grandparents,' meaning all four?
#67 by MarthaJeanne> Regarding the last question: No, we don't have a noun to include both pairs, but what we say is pretty short anyway: "far- & morföräldrar".
gendered terms are in my opinion preferable to nongendered terms because used correctly they provide more information. There are undoubtedly times there can be disagreement or confusion about the correct usage. Save the none gendered terms for then.
I do not want to look at an entry for A Smith to see if B Jones has a brother or a sister. Or increasingly a husband or a wife. I want the info on the page not a click away.
Am I the only one that thinks Tim has missed the point of the original request. to have a two gendered relationships rather than ambiguous ones in the examples. Could you address this directly Tim?
His PS sounds encouraging.
oh it does indeed how did I miss that?
It seems IM just like those customers who ignore signage.
Okay, someone rewrite the help? Right now it is:
Huxley, Julian (brother), Orwell, George (student), Huxley, Leonard (father)
We could just abandon the example mode and say what you need to do.
My suggestion:
Huxley, Julian (brother), Huxley, Laura Archera (wife), Orwell, George (student). Only add other authors.Still heteronormative and cisnormative, but I think an improvement of what's there now in terms of the direction issue.
We could just abandon the example mode and say what you need to do.
I personally learn these kinds of things better by examples than by text explanations, but that's just me.
I think we need to confront the directionality issue more clearly, if we're going to change it.
Something like:
Note directionality: if Alice is the daughter of Bob, on Alice's page enter "Bob (father)", on Bob's "Alice (daughter)".
I think either suggestion would work. But I would make sure that (like work to work) that it says only to add authors that already have pages on LT.
In fact reprogramming it so that works like the work to work relationships would be a nice pony.
Christina Rossetti (sister),
Polidori, John (uncle),
Brown, Ford Madox (tutor),
Helen Rossetti Angeli (niece),
Rossetti, Gabriele (father),
If you're changing the guidance, can you add that this is for relationships to other authors or notable people?
But I would make sure that (like work to work) that it says only to add authors that already have pages on LT.
What's the argument for this?
I know that, if the author doesn't exist, it won't work entirely right. But it can be corrected with the canonical name.
>79 SimonW11:
Is your point to explain directionality.
If you're changing the guidance, can you add that this is for relationships to other authors or notable people?
How do I say that. I need more suggestions! :)
>81 timspalding: I think "already have pages" is a bid to make it so that non-authors (random family members and the like) are not able to be added.
81> Yes, Sorry Tim You are indeed addressing it. If I had read your addendum I would have known that.
>81 timspalding:
The argument for explicitly stating that relationships should only be used to add authors that already have pages on LT is twofold:
1. It will prevent people from adding things like "two children".
2. It will give stronger ground to tell gangleri to stop his practice of using the field specifically to create author pages for authors with no books for reasons known only to himself. (He's usually pretty good about stopping specific annoying practices when asked, but needs to be asked specifically for each different annoying practice; he doesn't seem to generalize that if abusing one feature in this way is annoying, abusing others in the same way is annoying too.)
Something like "This is designed to provide information about relationships between authors. It should not be used for relationships with people who do not have an author page on LT. Do not add authors to LT for the purpose of linking to them with this field."
It's of possible that an author could have a personal relationship with an author who as yet has no works cataloged on LT, so I'm not entirely comfortable with banning currently-uncataloged-on-LT authors from the field.
Wouldn't it be just as simple to rename the field from "Relationships" to "Relationships to other Authors"?
86 > Wouldn't it be just as simple to rename the field from "Relationships" to "Relationships to other Authors"?
Having the field named "Relationships" and then saying that large numbers of the actual relationships must be excluded is just always going to be confusing.
> 74
I'd use a less high-brow / more contemporary exemplar, and start by naming them, eg,
Bush, George W.: Bush, George (father), Bush, Laura (wife), Bush, Jenna (daughter)
Obama, Barack: Obama, Michelle (wife), Dunham, S. Ann (mother), Wright, Jeremiah (pastor)
As if all these people wrote all their own stuff! Where does (ghostwriter) come in your list of relationships, Tim?
>88 Cynfelyn:
Your examples are good, but perhaps too USA-centric. I wouldn't expect an international audience to have a clue as to the names of George W. Bush's wife or offspring.
89 - Agreed that it might be possible to come up with less US-centric examples. But I do think these are good for the problem at hand: no one is going to mistake the directionality in this case -- no one is going to think that George W Bush is Jenna Bush's daughter.
I would prefer to see someome known primarily as an author rather than a US politician.
Yeah. The example's not perfect, but everyone is going to know that George Bush is male, which is all that's required for the example in this case to be clearer than the current one.
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I like PhaedraB's suggestion for the label change, and I like Cynfelyn's examples fine (especially Obama for including a non-family relationship), and only find slightly confusing the "Obama, Barack:" part (it kind of gives me the impression it should be entered too). Assuming this text still hasn't changed because we're waiting for the perfect (read: nonexistent) literary/non-political, internationally-known-or-neutral, non-unisex-named examples where everybody recognizes the relationship, here's another go:
Relationships to other authorsIn anticipation of the following "buts": "but the Jr. format is hard to parse", "but WSB Jr. is technically the 3rd", "but that's so long", "but friend is so nebulous", "but it's USA-centric", here's yet another attempt:
Relationships to other authorsBut if we're hoping for an example where everybody will already know the people involved and how they are related, I suspect the Obama examples will be known to more people than any literary examples (I've never heard of half the people above, so for me they still depend on male/female names, or the Jr. thing, which is fine — for addressing directionality, any of the Bush/Obama/Burroughs/Plath examples is better than what's currently there).
>94 omargosh:
FWIW I, too, would vote for Phaedra's suggestion in #86. I like your example of Sylvia Plath. I would have thought that most bookish folk (even non-US/UK) would have heard of her, if that's important, and I guess that it's mostly bookish folk who enter relationships in CK.
Or am I being elitist? ;-)
>94 omargosh:
so for me they still depend on male/female names, or the Jr. thing, which is fine
Yeah. The current example depends on knowing the specific relationships of the specific people involved to a single unnamed individual; note that the example text doesn't even clarify that they're all for the same person, or who it is!
Personally, I'd go with Stephen King for an example. He's one of the most well known authors in the world, and Hill, Joe (son) is also fairly well known. Also King, Tabitha (wife) and King, Owen (son) are at least published authors.
>97 yoyogod: I think King is a great example. His daughter in law Kelly Braffet is also a published writer. She is married to Owen King, so there are lots of different examples to include.
The only Joe Hill I know is the one who never died. And he would be way older than King if he were still around.
I'm glad you used this as an example, though. Some @)*#$^ threw all the works under one author, and I've just spent quite a while splitting the page.
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• You're wrong. I don't know you. All I know is a username on a computer screen. I don't know anyone on this site. My knowing you or others, gay or not, is irrelevant to this thread.
• And I was wrong. I do know homosexuals and have known them in the past. A little bit of reflection, less enthusiastic posting, would have saved me a lot of trouble.
• Again there is criticism and suspicion of my editing, that I am up to nefarious deeds. I have had to put up with these remarks in the past. I've addressed this before, but I can't seem to get the point across. For anyone interested in how I write posts, continue. Others, much obliged for your time.
A Quick and Dirty Look at How I Write on the Internet
It might cause confusion that I rarely write "ETA" when I edit a post. There are several reasons for this. When I first saw the acronym used on LibraryThing many years ago, I didn't know what it meant. I loathe acronyms to begin with and I dislike when they are used on the assumption that every reader knows what they mean. My teachers, God bless them, drove into my head that upon using an acronym for the first time, one writes it out, then later abbreviates it. A courtesy for the reader, perhaps.
I make so many edits on a first post, even after previewing, that writing "ETA" to indicate every change would quickly become annoying. My mind moves quickly. I type quickly, often with errors in grammar, spelling, structure, vocabulary, logic. I also make typos. My keyboard is very old, repeats keys and so on. I need a new one, probably. I do reflect before I write and I do proofread. But I have neither the time nor the desire to write for the ages, as it were, in a medium like the internet which encourages disposability. Different mediums encourage different forms of writing, varying levels of formality and so on. The internet is quick and dirty, to quote a computer term from years back. It encourages me to write quickly, in fragments, in bursts of information. The medium is informal, so I wrote informally. I can spend only so much time on a post. If I get too obssessive about writing on the internet, I will be here all day.
When I see the word "edit" on someone's post, I think nothing of it. When readers see the word "edit" at the header of my post, they will have to decide whether they want to give me the benefit of the doubt. They will have to decide whether I am being honest or whether I am changing my mind to win an argument, to save face, or engaging in some form of deceit.
>99 lilithcat: If you are referring to the labor leader Joe Hill, I believe that King named his son after him. Joe Hill chose an abbreviated form of his name as his pseudonym so he could succeed on his own merits as a writer. He is a good writer, but anyone who reads both him and King will immediately see the resemblance. He looks a lot like his dad too. There was a great profile of the whole family in the New York Times Magazine a few months back that can probably be read online, for anyone who's interested.
After almost two and a half years ... Bump.
>76 timspalding:: "I think we need to confront the directionality issue more clearly, if we're going to change it."
Several people have mentioned above that the current uni-gendered example doesn't really clarify directionality, so it needs to be more inclusive. Again, a bit USA-centric, but how about:
Examples for Hillary Rodham Clinton: Clinton, Bill (husband); Clinton, Chelsea (daughter).
Virginia Kelley (mother-in-law) is also a published author on LT. Although it would be good to have an example with a non-family relationship (mentor, friend etc.), if only to confirm to contributors that non-family relationships are welcomed.
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New London — Four people were arrested Friday in a prostitution sting in the city.
Krystal Curtiss, 26, of 19 Jay St.; Kimberly McGrail, 46, of 26 Broad St., Apt. 4A; and Lisabeth Bochain, 39, of 79 Federal St., were charged with prostitution. Albino Calastino, 34, of 34 Lee Ave. was charged with patronizing a prostitute.
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Musician Theophany, who contributed to our very own Harmony of a Hunter has put together his own album called Crystal Flash. Not only does this album further celebrate the 25th anniversary of Metroid, it also pays a special tribute to remixer Christopher Powell (Avien) who died in a car accident back in 2004. Avien contributed to Relics of the Chozo, one of the very first remix albums by OCRemix with the track Noumenon.
The album itself is very nice and the artwork is absolutely stunning. I wasn't even aware of this album until it was released, Theophany kept very quiet on the whole thing! The final track to the album, "Alone in the Universe" is a remix of the Metroid: Other M commercial theme. It was originally planned for Harmony of a Hunter, however I felt that "What's past is Prologue" was a better fit. I am thrilled to see that he released the track anyway and I urge you to give the whole album a listen.
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" Interior Paint "
My brother in law is a painter, he makes painting a room look exceptionally easy and can do a whole room extremely quickly using any paint. He had most of a bucket of B&Q value white emulsion left over from when he painted his own house so passed it on to me when I was painting my own house. I am not a professional painter and decorator and need all the help I can get when painting and the B&Q paint made the job a lot harder for me than it needed to be.
This is a very thin paint, some paints like Dulux are almost solid but this is about the consistency of double cream. This does mean that it is easy to pour into the roller tray but means that it is a nightmare when you are applying it. When you are painting the paint splatters loads of little drips everywhere, much more than most paints I have used. Using this paint on the ceiling is particularly difficult because so much of it ends up dripped onto your head. The splashing leads to more cleaning up than would be needed using a more expensive paint since there are so many mini splodges to wipe up. The paint odour seems about average with it taking no longer or less time to disappear once the job is finished.
The paint does go onto the walls easily but the finish is fairly uneven and you will need at least 2 coats if using it on a ceiling or even more if painting over a darker colour. The finish is good, every bit as good as Dulux with the white being nice and bright. The paint dries reasonably quickly letting you get on with applying the second and third coat without too much of a wait.
Whether or not you will decide to use the B&Q value emulsion will depend on how skilled you are as a painter. Someone like my BIL who is a pro can use any paint and end up with a brilliant result. Someone like me who is your average home decorator will end up spending twice as long painting and cleaning up using the value paint and end up getting frustrated in the process.
The price of paint has rocketed over recent times and buying 10l of paint for £11 might seem a great deal but that depends on whether you value your time and sanity. I'm going to stick to Dulux and get the job done a lot quicker.
As some of you know, I am currently having my bathroom remodelled and after mentioning to one of the lovely workmen that my ceiling needed painting he kindly offered to do it for me before putting in the shower cubicle. He recommended the B&Q Value Silk Emulsion and said it was very reasonably priced and overall a decent product.
After going to B&Q I realised it really was extremely reasonable in price at only £3.98 for a 2.5 litre tub, although for reasons quite beyond his control the workman wasn't able to paint the ceiling so I called in my son in law to do the job.
Initially he was very impressed at the bargain paint I had found, although this euphoric feeling soon disappeared as he realised he was going to have to give my ceiling no less than four coats of paint - and be speckled with paint as he was doing it!
The problem is that this paint has the a consistency only slightly thicker than water, it's very milky in appearance and doesn't grip the bristles of the brush at all leading to splatters and drips of paint every time you move the brush.
After the first coat you could see where the paint had gone on but only because it was so smeary that you could see the original paint on the ceiling through it. It put me in mind of how closing down shops used to white wash their windows, you know that thin appearance of the paint which meant you could ALMOST still see through the window if you got close enough! Bear in mind that my son in law was painting white paint over white paint so this is proof of how very thin this particular emulsion is that you could still detect the white underneath!
Luckily each coat dried fairly quickly and he only had to leave around an hour and a half in between coats. Personally I don't think the ceiling started looking nice until the third coat was starting to dry, by then the paint had covered itself nicely and the result was a smooth and bright white ceiling.
My bathroom is rather small so even doing four coats meant I only needed this one tub and as the finished result is excellent I am honestly glad I plumped for this emulsion compared to the other one I was looking at that cost over £10. The paint drips caused by it being so thin were easily wiped up with hot soapy water and a scouring pad, my son in law gave his hands a good wash in Fairy Liquid and washing powder and this removed all evidence of paint on his skin - although his hair didn't fare quite so well and he ended up having a buzz cut when he got home!
If I were the one to be painting so many coats I'm quite sure I wouldn't have liked this emulsion as much as I do. In my previous house I remember using a Dulux emulsion for the ceiling and it was done in one coat, so in this respect having to do four coats is bordering on the ridiculous really. As a spectator though I am impressed with the finish of the paint - after all, it wasn't MY blood, sweat and tears which got the ceiling done in the end!
I'm currently living in a mess at the moment, I have four rooms currently work in progress and to get them finished I will let of a sigh of relief. DIY when doing it on a big scale can be a costly expense, however I have been trying to work on a budget and I am getting there slowly but surely.
In order to to reduce costs when I saw B&Q value emulsion, 5 litres for an extremely good price I couldn't help but buy some. I have always stuck to what I know in the past, Dulux and Crown etc, purely because they are the best and they do a better job. Initially I thought the B&Q won't be that good but it can't be that bad either so I took the plunge hoping that I could get the ceilings in majority of my rooms done with just the one tub.
When I buy paint I can't leave it sitting there I have to get stuck in straight away, so as soon as I got home, I thought I would get my brushed out and start in one of the smaller rooms, the bathroom and start painting the ceiling. 20 minutes later and I had given the ceiling it first coat however it did need a second coat which as a rule you normally have to do a couple of coats anyway to get the best results, however after two and then three coats I decided to give up.
I used this paint on one of my doors and to get the results that I wanted I had to do at least five coats and I ended buying a better quality og paint in the end.
Its not completely useless, it's good for an undercoat and then do a top coat with a decent paint however if you want to cut costs this is not the way to do it. It's a waste of money as you use a great deal more of it to get the results you want, spend more than time than you actually want to do the job and more money because it gets used up a lot faster than the likes of Dulux. After a while it does start to discolour a lot easier than more expensive paint so not good to use in rooms such as kitchen and bathroom where there is excess steam.
Better to send a bit more and get the job done quicker and more cost effective.
Value Silk emulsion flows smoothly and dries to give a Silk finish.


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Top-ranked Notre Dame is the only remaining unbeaten and untied team in the NCAA Division I women's ranks after its 6-0 win over Cincinnati on Sunday.
LSU fell at Mississippi, 1-0, while
Oklahoma State tied Colorado, 1-1, in Boulder on Sunday.
Freshman forward Melissa Henderson collected her first career hat trick for Notre Dame,
which improved to 10-0-0.
BRONCOS SLUMP. Two days after playing then-No. 2 to a 0-0 tie, Santa Clara fell to Cal, 1-0, on Nikki Schrey's golden goal to fall to 3-6-2.
The game should have been long over. The Bears outshot Santa Clara, 26-3.
"Overall Cal was on the
offensive attack more than we were," said SCU coach Jerry Smith. "We were able to stay in the game until the last minutes of the second overtime. It is
disappointing, but I thought [goalie] Meagan McCray played well and deserved a better result."
SWEEP IN FLORIDA. Virginia earned back-to-back wins on the road in the ACC with a 1-0 win at Florida State on Thursday night and a 2-0 win at Miami (Fla.) on Sunday.
The Cavaliers
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Do Generics Work as Well as Name Brands?
It's my first night of vacation! I saw my last patient today and then started pulling the pictures off the walls in anticipation of my move. I ran over to see the new place, and it still needs insulation (it's on the floor), paint, and carpet. And doorknobs might be nice.
So we're expecting quite the snowstorm here. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow, but the current forecast is for up to 20 inches. It didn't take me long to float from the weather to the health section of the New York Times, and here's an article by Leslie Alderman about generics versus name brands.
Are generics as good as name brands? I don't have any studies, I'm purely running on anecdotes, but this is my thinking: Usually. When I was resident, I learned that 15% of the time (and this isn't science, I don't think, I believe it's someone else's anecdote) generic nortryptiline doesn't work when name brand Pamelor does. So I've always asked patients to start with Pamelor....I don't use it much anymore....because who wants to spend 6-8 weeks on a medication trial and have someone not respond only to realize they were in that small group of patients who are sensitive to the brand.
Other meds: I've had a handful of people complain about generic Prozac-- fluoxetine. It's not as effective for them, or they have more side effects. Alderman's article talks about Wellbutrin XL and I didn't even realize that the XL form now has a generic. Sometimes people want the name brand.
So what do I do when a patient specifically requests the name brand? I give it to them: if they are right, then they are right. And if they simply believe that they won't respond to the generic, because there are people who say "Generics don't work on me," well, then there's power to such beliefs, and I just want my patients to get better.
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For this week's Please Explain we're picking up where last week's left off. We'll find out why stress can take a toll on our mental and physical health and find out how to reduce stress in our lives and cope with it better. We're joined again by Dr. Drew Ramsey, Assistant Clinical Professor of Psychiatry, Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, and co-author of The Happiness Diet, and Dr. Rajita Sinha, director of the Yale Stress Center, and Professor of Psychiatry, Neurobiology and Child Study at Yale University School of Medicine.


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