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has anybody experienced the NhS salary sacrifice scheme?
My wife has just got a job as a nurse and is able to get a car. The quotes we have received are really good - they include insurance, tax, maintenance etc.
We are thinking of getting rid of our 2008 Toyota auris anyway and looking at an audi a3. The quotation from the NhS is comparable to what we pay for just the car, without the extras, eg insurance, tax etc for the Toyota.
Just wondering if anyone else out there who has a car on the scheme and if its worth doing?
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Yes - worth doing - i work in NhS finance and we have just introduced this scheme in our Trust.
Do not do however if you are retiring within the next 3 years as it reduces your pension contributions, and therefore your final salary.
The NhS isn't the safest of places however at the moment (for staff and patients :-) ) given the financial tsunami about to break...
a good way though of getting a new car - virtually risk free - and includes, tax, insurance, servicing, breakdown etc etc
if you intend to leave the trust whilst still in the scheme you will be contractually still liable for the payments.
hope this helps !
My wife is on the scheme, she is a nurse.,
it was worthwhile but is now very expensive. She is coming off at the end of her lease and will be buying private again. The sums add up better,
its not risk free, if you wish to leave, unless you can get another trust to take it on, you have to pay the lease fees
everyone in her trust is now giving it the elbow
Edited by Altea Ego on 21/03/2010 at 21:58
The NhS isn't the safest of places however at the moment (for staff and patients :-) ) given the financial tsunami about to break...
Whilst I have every respect for our nurses and doctors in the NHS, I have to say they are only now experiencing what I/we have been experiencing in our industry (telecoms) for 10 years...I stoped thinking about a job for life when I left the civil service many years ago.
Ths thread was started a year ago so the OP may not reply! Has anyone else got experience of this scheme?
And you thought the priority for the NHS was making sick people better. Nope it's actually getting shiny new metal onto the road. Hurrah for higher taxes..tax and spend, tax and spend. Don't forget to protest about those 'eeeevilll toreee' cuts to the gravy train.
Hello again
Does anyone have any idea of costs for a lease car through the NHS.
Really need a car for work for buiseness milage and hardly any private milage.
Thanks in advance
Mrs RickyBoy has just taken delivery of a bog-standard 11-plate Fiesta Zetec 1.2 plus metallic paint.
Total cost is just over £100pcm over a 3-year term. We're in Buckinghamshire. It came on a trailer from Chester! Previous Clio came from Cardiff. One before that supplied locally.
FleetCare handle the NHS deals in this region. You select what you fancy (inc. any additional options) and they get back to you with the monthly quotations broken down into cost of vehicle and cost of tax.
She costed the Fiesta, a Mazda 2, Hyundai 120 and a similar Clio. Certain brands were more expensive for the vehicle but less for the tax, etc. There was no significant difference in the figures for those brands mentioned save 10-15 quid or so. I believe the Hyundai was the most expensive to lease which surprised me.
She selected the Fiesta as a change from her past two Clios. She could have requested quotes for an Alfa Mito or an Audi A1 (my suggestions) but as she's not too bothered about motors and image these days she didn't! However, the Fiesta looks quite acceptable in Silver Whatever Metallic with alloys, a/c and Bluetooth nonsense.
Oh, and Ethan Hunt... she works as a Domiciliary Physio which means she's out and about on home visits each and every day where I'm afraid a bus or a bike just won't cut it!
Best ...
Forgot to mention ...
You HAVE to specify quite accurately the number of Business and Private miles you expect to register per annum. For example, if you exceed the private allowance considerably then I believe adjustment penalties/additional costs could be applied?
Don't believe she's ever been caught out by this herself but I'm sure it'll be somewhere in the (your) small print!
Thankyou very much RickyBoy great info. I understand that the private miles are my costs. What does Mrs RickyBoy think of the Fiesta and do you think its worth having. My self (because man brain) I was thinking of a Mito or A1, jst because of the co2 and engine sizes.
But on the other hand looking at Fiat 500 and the Swift and the tiny little IGO as this will be for work only and dont care what I drive to work .
Anyone else had any cost experience of the NHS lease car.
As I now have to cover the cost of using my own car for doing NHS work .
Hi I work for Humber N.H.S Foundation Trust in Kingston Upon Hull, and our Trust as just started working in partnership with N.H.S Fleet Solutions. Its Salary Sacrafice but was hoping if you could tell me if these Lease cars are a good deal/scheme. Just hoping for some feedback on this company and if these schemes are all they made out to be.
My trust are using this scheme and the staff are very efficient in processing your orders but not so good in keeping you updated once the order has gone out to the dealer or the manufacturer.
Is it a good deal... well that depends on your circumstances.... I`m getting an alfa Guillietta 2.0JTD 170 and im happy with my payments others in my area are going for Audis which seem to be coming in cheap ish... a mini diesel convertable came in at £270 for one member of staff.
I`m not sure what the delays are mine has just been put back until mid to late august and that was quoted on 3rd april and ordered on 21st april.....
oh and ring back in 4 weeks is the mantra........
Do you work in a hospital or district??? my trust is offering this leasing scheme unsure to whether i will qualify or not
And you thought the priority for the NHS was making sick people better. Nope it's actually getting shiny new metal onto the road. Hurrah for higher taxes..tax and spend, tax and spend. Don't forget to protest about those 'eeeevilll toreee' cuts to the gravy train.
I work for the NHS, and I have recently lost the post I was in and been assigned to one where I have to transport vulnerable adult patients around 5000 miles a year. My 12 year old Corsa that overheats in traffic is not a safe option and I cannot afford a decent car, so the salary sacrafice scheme is what I will have to do. I am on no gravy train, I work hard and just about scrape by. My priority is and will always be to the people I serve. Surely you would want to know that your loved ones (should they need care) were transported in a safe and reliable car?
You may not be taking the proverbial though I wonder why you are transporting patients rather than a dedicated ambulance. But some people are definitely ripping the taxpayer off.
NHS Dumfries and Galloway currently leases 321 cars – including top of the range models such as the Mercedes CLC 200 Coupe Sport, BMW 1 Series CPE Sport and Audi A3 Sportback TDI SE.The lease cars cost the NHS authority a total of £784,124 a year.
So no waiting lists and shortage of cash up there?
I personally know of one senior chap who was briefly in charge of the LAS some years ago and his troughing was pretty blatently obvious.
However if you have a genuine need for basic transport then fine. Basic transport it is. I believe you'll find basic four door transport kicks in at about nine grand Hyundai i10. Though you may be able to find cheaper. Enjoy.
The link you provide also explains it would cost more for them to pay for business mileage allowance, if they were not on the leasing sceme.
It also explains that they only offer a basic car and the employee pays the difference if they want a better car.
My other half is on the leasing sceme and has a Mazda 6 Estate, she would have been funded upto a bottom of the range 1.4 petrol Astra as she is an essential car user with over 3500 business miles. But she decided to get a Mazda 6 estate as we have dogs and children to think about too.
But as I say she pays the extra, she has to pay over £300 a month to have the car, where as some of her work mates with the likes of a Mini Cooper only pay £40 a month.
She used to get 40p a mile or something plus £50 a month for using her own car as she is an essential car user. Now she gets 7p per mile and no essential car user allowance.
She is a mental health social worker who often has to go to different hospitals for visits and visit people in the community. Aswell as taking people to do certain stuff like helping them with their banking requirements ect.
I dont see how this is something you can say is a waste of tax payers money to be honest, I also hate to see tax payers money goto waste like it often does but dont feel this is the case with the NHS leasing scheme to be honest.
The lease schemes save the Trusts money over paying out the much higher and fixed HMRC mileage rates, therefore those who take lease cars are actually costing the Trust less. Plus they pay an additional tax monthly on the car so actually contributing MORE to the country... No different to getting a private lease and claiming full mileage except less money has to come from Trust coffers as they get huge discounts on the car list price. All extras and private miles come from user's contribution.
I think articles are painting it as some lavish company car scheme... it really is not. There are plenty of private sector jobs out there with generous rewards such as this, the NHS is not one, and only staff who need a car for their job are eligible. And just to make sure you are not too worried about it apparently the whole NHS is getting a mileage review (read reduction) in 2013 which will mean workers will be getting less again towards their mileage or lease cars. Not really as great as some articles would like to paint.
You want to poke at a waste of public money, how about the use of PFI to build hospitals? Or paying a private company to run a car park that charges patients? Or even spending billions scrapping Primary Care Trusts... Or the top of them all, paying private providers to run services where public money is being used to make a profit, no it really is not about efficiency because you can get that with incentives... it's about profit.
As for transporting patients in an ambulance, I think that's a little narrow minded, there thousands of community jobs where an ambulance would be totally inappropriate, just one example would be taking someone recovering from mental illness shopping... I'm pretty sure taking them out in an ambulance wouldn't be a great way of helping them recover and fight stigma... might get more shopping in it than an i10 but which would you like to be meeting your worker in if you were recovering from psychosis? Nuff said.
Rant over. Merry xmas all of you.
Edited by misterc on 22/12/2011 at 23:35
In My trust the salary sacrifice scheme is putting people into new cars but we pay for the leasing coststhrough a reduction in salary. The trusts gain from having a reduced Employers NI liability and reduced employers pension contributions ... So I get a shiny new metal thing for three years and save the NHS some money..... ... I`m not sure where the gravy train stops but I can say as a staff nurse I`ve never been a passenger.
As an accountant I understand the maths involved, and recognise there is the potential for such a scheme to be financially benefical for all concerned. (apart from HMRC of cource).
Where I think problems lie is reading about people buying Audi and Alfa and other premium brands of motors with what is in effect state funds.
The scheme needs to be manufacturer brand, model and specficiation specific, eg Ford, Vauxhall, Nissan, Toyota, ... and the list to include only fuel efficient models that are made in the UK. (and not Range Rover or Jags).
This will mean UK taxpayer funds are supporting UK manufacturing and UK employment.
(Perhaps to pander to EU rules include non premium EU brands eg Fiat or Skoda if necessary)
Good thinking, except you run the risk that all the restriction of choice will do is mean that people lease privately and claim full HMRC mileage... Plus if you are going to do that you would need to roll this out across the UK to all car schemes public and private to really influence the motor industry, also most importantly if you don't you get the question "why should tax payers (via mileage/company cars) pay for private sector personnel to have whatever car they want", it's all public money.
Also I admit the following is just my opinion.
... when the cars made in the UK can match the best of German engineering then fine, but they cannot currently and in a place where MPG & CO2 is everything, you are going to go for the best you can get within the fiscal restrictions of tax/duty. A 0-60 time of sub 8 secs when you need it but 69.8mpg the rest of the time (I get 74 on M-Ways) makes all other eco cars look a bit pants sorry.
The public sector is their to serve the needs of the whole of the public, It isn't really for the public sector to dictate/influence private sector manufacturing - supply and demand does this and ultimately this is down to the quality of the goods. Between the employers (who do not really pay that much to most of their workers despite common public perceptions) and HMRC they ensure that workers do pick efficient low CO2 cars or tax penalties and personal contributions become too much for the average worker to afford. If any of your said UK "based" manufacturers can produce a car better than the Germans I think people will happily choose them but until that day your hard earned contributions will be going towards the best for your money. Either that or attract the best manufacturers to the UK but we do not have the workforce coming out of university for that I heard on the news the other day... I'm sure restricting access to fee loans for graduates (despite this being fairer?) will ensure that no graduate ever retrains in engineering, and a lack of jobs combined with £9k/yr fees will ensure only a modest number of engineers continue to be produced through university... but I digress... tis the season to be jolly!
Merry xmas all
The public sector is their to serve the needs of the whole of the public, It isn't really for the public sector to dictate/influence private sector manufacturing - supply and demand does this and ultimately this is down to the quality of the goods.
Since it's taxpayers' money that funds the public sector, it's very proper that the element spent on public sector motoring is used for the benefit of the UK economy.
I think my argument above (typos and all) outlined clear problems with forcing car choice on people that only benefits UK manufacturing. All cars sourced come from UK dealers, are serviced by UK garages, are taxed with UK tax discs and pay UK BIK tax and use UK fuel paying UK duty. Pretty much all the money spent has some benefit for UK economy.
The fact that you discount things such as MPG in favour of UK manufactured cars seems somewhat short sighted approach, surely the costs being kept down for NHS was the initial argument.. hence highest MPG, best RV of vehicle, lowest road tax etc so basically anything eco from Audi, BM or VW.
I admire your principles and if we didn't live in a free market economy and your ideas had been put in place years ago, perhaps we would still have British manufacturers, perhaps even Rover... But we don't. Again it's down to quality now. I don't advocate for overpriced lifestyle products that are there to be thrown away a year later, but I do argue for sensible free choice for the best performing product. Especially when it's use is for the good of the public and costs the NHS as little as possible.
Have you noticed, indeed has anyone noticed, that the UK people are the only ones in the world who won't support their home market by buying their own products whenever possible?
Germans buy a bigger % of German cars than anyone, Yanks buy more US-built cars than anyone as do all the other nations with a car industry of any sort, ie France, Italy, Spain, Japan, Korea and now of course China.
Please explain why the term "free market" has such a different meaning in the UK to anywhere else on earth? Patriotism isn't a dirty word anywhere else but here.
Edited by RT on 24/12/2011 at 20:44
Have you noticed, indeed has anyone noticed, that the UK people are the only ones in the world who won't support their home market by buying their own products whenever possible?
Because by and large we dont care wheres its made or who by, so long as its cheap and wont break.
Germans buy a bigger % of German cars than anyone, Yanks buy more US-built cars than anyone as do all the other nations with a car industry of any sort, ie France, Italy, Spain, Japan, Korea and now of course China.
Germans buy a bigger % of German cars than anyone, Yanks buy more US-built cars than anyone as do all the other nations with a car industry of any sort, ie France, Italy, Spain, Japan, Korea and now of course China.
When you take pickup trucks out of the equation (F-150 and Silverado occupy the top two vehicle sales positions in the US) you'll find Americans buy lots of Japanese and German cars as well. You've answered your own question really in that Britain doesnt have a car industry and when we did it was pretty poor.
Patriotism isn't a dirty word anywhere else but here.
Patriotism isn't a dirty word anywhere else but here.
Correct but by the same token who would spend money on rubbish purely because its made in Britain when for the same money you could get better quality from abroad? 'Supporting the home market' may be culturally important in other countries but here all we want is cheap and reliable. Saying somethings 'Made in England' is just a nice way of saying its going to fall apart and seeing as the only car industry we do have is bankrolled by foreign firms keeping British people in employment im not sure what you're asking us to do, all buy a Noble?
You seem to think that by not buying the British option wherever possible that we're somehow anti-British. I drive an S-Type by the way, British name but i know most of its American.
Since it's taxpayers' money that funds the public sector, it's very proper that the element spent on public sector motoring is used for the benefit of the UK economy.
As I read the OP this isn't a simple company car/lease scheme but involves salary sacrifice. The employee accepts a reduction in their salary and gets the car in exchange.
Too many conditions and the employee says 'sod this' and claims mileage for their own car.
Totally agree, and when Trusts were tied in to certain brands, the costs I saw were considerably more, the lack of competition probably didn't help keep prices low... I certainly was not interested in a scheme that cost twice as much as it does now and dictated I had one of 5 cars...
I spite of all this I would love to see some British manufactured cars really being competitive... BM are now sharing diesel engine tech with Toyota in exchange for battery technology, so may be some of their cars will come out as competitive and uptake will increase. But that is the responsibility of the car industry not public sector workers, especially when they have to pay a good chunk of their wages (some of us after tax as well) for the car.
Hope you are all having a lovely xmas
I am a community midwife for the last 16 years i have had 3 previous lease cars and am in my last year of my fourth.I also have experience of using my own car at work and would definately recommend lease car scheme. I work in the very rural area of Cumbria where the roads are poor at the best of times and if you use your own car end up forking out for all the increased wear and tear as well as the deprecation etc.
I have had one Ford KA which was cheap and cheerful and then since had Mini's.They are fast (useful for the rapid homebirths!) and very handy.No doubt the eco warriors have their head in their hands at this point and wish i would get on my bike but doing in excess of 80 miles most days is not cost effective on my hourly rate.
My mini is very reasonable and many of the distict nurses also have minis.I have added extras which put the cost up but not unduly.I do very well because i have a high work mileage and low private as my husband has a car .The scheme actually saves the trust money as it would have to pay a higher rate if i used my own car and it has a ceiling limit and will only contibute so much towards my car so no tax payers are hurt in the making of this deal!
I find it somewhat upsetting that people think we are trying to profit from such a system when we are just doing our job.We are not a charity and some of us have given well beyond the call of duty at some very unholy hours of the night in hideous driving conditions to deliver babies in the back of beyond.If the Eco Warrior would like to experience the day and night of the community midwife and see why we need a works car feel free to join me.
As for the debate of choosing a UK car as far as im concerned i should be able to choose whatever i like if im contributing to it.
Edited by Avant on 02/01/2012 at 23:14
Welcome to the forum, Chantal. I've put in some paragraphs so that people can read your Interesting post without losing the will to live!
I hope we'd all agree that what - being old-fashioned - I still call the district nurse service does a wonderful job, and is particularly vital to the community in areas like yours. Give the mileage you do, you may as well enjoy it, so a Mini is an ideal choice - and a nice link with the district nurses of my childhood in the 1950s and 60s when most of them drove Morris Minors, also made in Cowley. A Minor - equipped with the famous SU carburettor - was far more likely to start first time on a cold wet night than the equivalent Ford or Vauxhall.
Edited by Avant on 02/01/2012 at 23:26
Well talk about putting me off this scheme its gone from one extreme to another since reading the first original post.
I was going to consider this scheme but alot of thought needs to be taken into account. I feel that if you want peace of mind and don't wont to worry about maintaining a car then this is ideal. Financially you should be prepared for extras that may occur pregnancy, leaving job etc as you a bound by the contract so it's important to read the small print.
I was going to give up my old car to get a new one which would be on the never never but will it be worth it to payout of a 5 year term when the car will depreciate. Again food for thought and to weigh up the pros and cons. If the cost is reasonable and your not fussy about the car then it's worthwhile I think.
All these posting as simply confused the situation from the original first question which was simply asking is it a good deal or not.
Hi, I've just joined the forum, although im not part of the NHS, my FRS (Fire and Rescue) are looking at introducing the Salary Sacrifice Car scheme. But at this time its all gone quiet...again!! Can anyone point me to where you can see what Vehicles are available, and the typical monthly prices?.
Hi, I've just joined the forum, although im not part of the NHS, my FRS (Fire and Rescue) are looking at introducing the Salary Sacrifice Car scheme. But at this time its all gone quiet...again!! Can anyone point me to where you can see what Vehicles are available, and the typical monthly prices?.
One piece of advice to anyone thinking of joining the NHS salary Sacrifice car scheme is to take there quoted delivery times with a pinch of salt, there simply not true. I ordered a car nearly 3 months ago and was told 3 weeks delivery if I ordered a golf. I'm still waiting despite promises that it would soon be with me. I cant help thinking that if the company didn't have a monopoly with regard to the NHS, they would provide a much better service.
I'm not alone in this; a colleague ordered a car in November 2011 and waited until April this year, not what I would call a fleet solution. Its worth bearing in mind if like me you need a car quickly
Hi I wonder if I may ask if your personal tax code is significantly lower than it should be for your lease car?
I have had a Lease car via NHS since 2006 and pay £350 monthly inc VAT and handling fee. In June 2010 I changed Trusts and then in May 2011 my tax code dropped dramatically. When I questioned this I was told it was because of my company car! I have been sent 'round the houses' trying to get some answers to this from salary and wages department to HMRC back to salary to lease car company (Derwent) back to salary , back to HMRC and so on you get the picture I am sure?
So....since last year I have been sent several P11d's all of them have something different on them but I am still not getting anywhere....everyone seems to think it is a different department that deals with the query.
Salary and wages have now sent a letter to HMRC saying I have a lease car not a company car but have also resent a P11d on this one it states that the cash equivalent of car would be region of £2000 (not exact fig quoted) per annum and that my car is not available for 89 days of the year. i have never been offered a cash equivalent and my car is available to me everyday that's why I pay £350 a month.
For those of you interested it is a mini cooper D but my private milaeage is high as I travel 90 miles daily to my base and then I work rurally as a nurse and get 11p per mile for that priviledge.
All I question is why now after 6 years I am I suddenly being taxed from 747L (I think) to 547L ?
Thank you to any genuine answers and to those of you who think it is a perk...it is not....like Chantalk I cannot do this job on a bike as I average 130 miles daily or more
We have all had leaflets with our wage slips about salary sacrifice and lease cars? I work in a hospital not as a district nurse. Do you know if I would qualify for lease scheme? as NHS and PCT merged in July 2011???
Edited by stella67 on 16/06/2012 at 10:33
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Edited by Avant on 10/12/2012 at 23:46
There appears to be people confused about the difference between regular nhs lease cars for essential users and salary sacrifice schemes that are open to anyone regardless of essential car user status I am trying to be clear on the differences between the two schemes. I am an essential user. As I see it with salary sacrifice cars you can still claim higher rate mileage eg 40-44p miles for first 9000 miles. This is opposed to the 15p a mile for nhs lease cars. I would be grateful to receive any comments on peoples understanding between the two schemes for essential users Thanks Stella
Just looked at the above thread, wow how people can be easily convinced that public sector employees are overpaid blood suckers. Wonder if I worked in the private sector I would have a company car to go and see customers for work, I pay towards my NHS car and tax too, to go and see my patients. This is far from a benefit, just to let everyone know the trust I work for chages around £65 per month to insurance alone 3 times more that I would pay individually, before you consider some of the cost should not be paid a all given the majority is for business purposes.
Back to the point the salary sacrific scheme means you benefit because you reduce your tax and NHS pension contributions currently 9% of salary. I would be wary as given the pension will be converted to the new scheme next year you may reduce the value of your pension when taking this option - this needs to be clarified.
In terms of the scheme for regular users this varies from trust to trust, currently the scheme I am in is more expensive than leasing privately, so it is worthwhile having a look to see what other companies can offer. from June next year NHS trusts are intending to pa 23p per mile over 3500 miles a year, that is 40p per mile less than the cost of running a typical medium sized car, so in that case the lease may be the best option.
The other option would be using a bicycle because the NHS is also thinking about paying 23p per mile to ride a push bike.
You could always borrow an NHS van. They always have dozens sitting around our local general hospital doing nothing.
You could always borrow an NHS van. They always have dozens sitting around our local general hospital doing nothing.
Interesting thought, I know that many of the van fleet workers have had there hours cut, though the vans are probably part of a lease contract so are not as easy to get rid of.
If the inference is that this is an indication of waste in the NHS, don't believe everything the politicians say, we could look at many other companies and give examples of waste everywhere, could be a good idea to evaluate all the evidence, before reaching further conclusions.
Lets keep this thread on discussions around the lease scheme though, if anyone wants to create a link for discussions around the NHS, I would be pleased to contribute, give me the link.
Interesting thought, I know that many of the van fleet workers have had there hours cut, though the vans are probably part of a lease contract so are not as easy to get rid of.
If the inference is that this is an indication of waste in the NHS, don't believe everything the politicians say, we could look at many other companies and give examples of waste everywhere, could be a good idea to evaluate all the evidence, before reaching further conclusions.
Lets keep this thread on discussions around the lease scheme though, if anyone wants to create a link for discussions around the NHS, I would be pleased to contribute, give me the link.
OK. I've seen enough. The NHS Lease Car scheme, like everything else that exists for Public Sector workers ( Salaries, Job Security, Pensions etc.) are so far ahead of what we, mere mortals, can expect to command from life. If you are able to pillage and take advantage of all we tax payers provide for you- then do it. And stop complaining that some of the generous benefits that you can claim don't quite suit your personal circunstances. Get a life!
OK. I've seen enough. The NHS Lease Car scheme, like everything else that exists for Public Sector workers ( Salaries, Job Security, Pensions etc.) are so far ahead of what we, mere mortals, can expect to command from life. If you are able to pillage and take advantage of all we tax payers provide for you- then do it. And stop complaining that some of the generous benefits that you can claim don't quite suit your personal circunstances. Get a life!
Quite - couldn't have put it better myself.
If the NHS needs to have cars for it's staff to carry out essential work, such as District Nurses etc the vehicle provided should be a pool car. Pool cars should be the same for DN's or trust chairpersons - such as a bulk lease deal of adequate machinery, such as the cheapest basic Fiesta. Never mind all the ego crap about "my motor is better than your motor because I'm more important than you" etc remember that the taxpayer is having to fund it, so the cheapest basic motor will do the job. If you don't want the job because it doesn't come with an ego-boosting expensive car, go look for a job somewhere else.
And if you have to take the pool car home overnight expect to get charged tax on your journey to work the next day, just like the rest of us.
I am sick and tired of hearing this constant belief that public sector workers have better salaries, better perks and are the scurge of humanity.
Any benefit in kind for NHS lease cars are taxed under the PAYE system, the base car that is used to calculate costs is a Ford Escort 1.4LX - this is not even available now, the NHS only pays for the business use of the vehicle, the member of staff pays for private use.
In terms of salary I earn less than I did in industry, following undertaking 3 years training and also undertaking postgraduate study as a mature student, I am responsible for the lives of the people I look after and am accountable if anything goes wrong.
Most nurses are like everyone else, struggling to pay mortgages, with no disposable income, if staff are paid less in the public sector this drives down average pay, something that has always been a value of the current government, it is simplistic to think that everyone in the private sector will have a big decrease in tax due to reduced expenditure.
In terms of ego, people who go into healthcare do so because they wish to make a difference, not due to aspiring to drive a flashy car.
Finally if we do lease something like a Mini or a Nissan Juke, we are keeping British men and women in work, also due to the fact that the NHS has such large purchasing power, NHS trusts actual make a profit from leasing vehicles in comparison to paying statutory mileage allowances as indicated by HMRC.
May I suggest reading alternative media, to gain a balanced perspective?
What experience have you got? Have you ever driven a van?
i would just like to point out that us NHS workers also pay our tax's.
i am a regular user and have used both my own car when i started my job and am now on my second lease car.
i pay to work. i pay more tax thanks to having the car. get milage allowance of 11ppmile instead of the 46ppm i would be getting f i was using my own car. not to menton the monthly ware and tare i would get paid for running my own car.
i have to have a car for the purpos of work, i work in community rehab to enable elderly and peoeple who have suffered a stroke to come home earlier from hospital and sometimes avoid hospital admissions totally. my car is essential as without it i could not do my job i travel from different places and can be expected to see 7 patients between 8am and 12pm in 3 areas some days this would not be achivable using public transport. in doing this we save the nhs hospital trust millions in long admissions and we free up beds saving even more.
we have both lease car and salary sacrifice choices in my trust. i have the lease as i do more than 5000 work miles per year. i had the choice of the car i wanted however this year my trust have introduced that only upto130co2 emmissions is allowed for a regular user and 150co2 emmitions for a salarie sacrifice user.
i pay for my private milage and becouse i have chosen a decent car with low emmissions i also pay extra as my thought is if im going to do it and have the car for 3 years then i may as well do it right. if i was using mu own car i would not use a basic modle why should i when im paying for ths one too!
i have never been on the dole and have worked all my life im now 30 i have worke for the nhs now for 5 years. i do not intend to leave my job and i am just a normal person who lives in a council house and have done all my life. i get by but struggle like the best of us. the car ensures that i am available for work ibn all weather conditions like this thick snow at the moment yes we still have to do our jobs in all weathers....shouldnt then we have the choice to do it in a car that is fit for purpose.
by far this is not a benifit. it is fully paid for by me and as they should the nhs pay for their usage. less emmissions on the road = greener air something most people are wanting and also means less older cars on the road as would not be able to afford a new car at the moment so it would be an older higher co2 car i would be doing all my milage in.
i pay 330 a month for my car and get back about 40-50 quid for my petrol i put far more than this in for work alone.
this is my second car tho and they have always been delivered within weeks of when i was told they would be. if you already have a lease car then u can use that till the new one comes.
but you can get stung with exess milage. but thats if u go above your quoter so would be your own doing as if it was work milage that caused the increase they would pay for it.
its stress free driving for me i have enough to deal with without the stress of cars going wrong so for me it was a great benifit in many ways and becouse i get a nice new car i kinda dont mind the extra tax i pay per month and petrol for work too it works for me and it works for the nhs saving them loads!!
but most of all it ensurse that i am able to get to my patients at the time of day they need me regardless this im sure if you are even in the position when u need care at home is of only benifit to u as a patient when u need that care and cant access it.
all in all for me the lease car works it wont work for everone but for me it does and do i feel guilty for gettng paid less ppmile and paying more tax a month to deliver the highest care i can well been cumfy n safe doing it then no i dont.
Hi, I'm looking for a new car and work for the NHS dose anybody know of any website or companies I can get a quote off for the NHS lease scheme. Any information would be gratefully recieved thanks
Prices are available through your NHS Trust.
Hi, I work for the NHS and have a standard 1.4 petrol Vauxhall Corsa paying £150.24. When I originally took out the lease i was doing 5500 business miles per year, but due to business need shortly after I took the lease they moved me to a team where I do far less driving, averaging around 3500 business miles.
What I didn't know until last month (a year after I took the lease) that this is going to cost me another £80 per month as my trust will now contribute less to the car as I am driving at work less. I want to stress that moving was not my choice and I asked not to be moved, so I feel quite annoyed that I've been financially penalised! I also came in under my personal mileage allowance so haven't incurred excess charges there. My manager was initially supportive but once she realised the difference may have to come out of her budget, has started asking me all about the small print when I took the lease. I was advised over and over by the lease car administrator it would be a fixed cost for 3 years otherwise i never would have taken the risk but of course it says in the small print that the price can fluctuate.
My question is, has this happened to anyone else, and have I got any chance of fighting it and refusing to pay? It will cost me £1200 to exit the lease.
My mileage was higher for business and I did not have a refund, my agreement only allows for excess charges for private mileage.
To be quite honest with recent changes to the way mileage is to be calculated you will now be charged to drive to your registered office even if you work from home. This is classified as business mileage if you work for any other company as long as you are not driving to your usual place of work.
For example if you sell double glazing and drive to see a customer you would have to pay for travel to your office before you claim anything so if your office is 50 miles away you will need to foot the first 100 miles of your costs yourself as well as paying an additional amount for the car.
Public sector overpaid? Public sector goldplated?
I think the best way will be to catch the bus as that is all anyone working in the NHS can afford. So forget the lease and look for a job in the underpaid private sector surely graduates with 20 years experience are earning above 25k a year.
The recent changes in the business mileage rules should not have any impact on the amount of mileage you are able to claim for journeys (including to the office) if your "agreed work base" is your home address.
3 years old and running strong this thread.
I am based in the community we have no fixed office and work at home the policy is that a nominal base is chosen we are then charged to and from this place that does not exist this amount is deducted from daily mileage daily. Home worker status is only given to people who spend the full day at home. So offices are closed down we pay for our gas and electric and broadband and to travel to an office we need not go to.
Hmmmmmmm. Makes you wonder. Doesn't it?
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I joined NHS England in April, and was made aware of the salary sacrifice scheme in order to get a new car on lease. I have obtained the quote and proceeded to the contract stage, before I sign I just wondered if anyone could advice whether I would incur additional tax charges I.e. on top of the £260 net( after tax,pension and Ni saving and plus the tax liability charge) I would be paying for the car? I don't want to find myself in the situation where I am being charged additional tax as I have been told my tax code will change.
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California therapist and author Susan Forward has treated enough families in the past few decades to know that the ties that bind can feel like a stranglehold for many people.
"So often they're the worst place for you," she says from her home in Southern California. In her new book, Mothers Who Can't Love: A Healing Guide for Daughters, Forward revisits a persistent dynamic she sees in her practice: daughters dealing with a spate of mother issues, from growing up under the thumb of a control freak to having to mother their own mothers.
But underlying all the teary tales is a belief in daughters' power to overcome. "I don't believe, unless you're psychotic, there's any wound that cannot be healed or at least closed over with some very effective scar tissue," Forward says.
I'm a mom. You've struck fear in me about the wide-ranging potential to be a bad mother.
I don't want to scare anybody. As long as you're cognizant of what some of the behaviours could be that would be hurtful, you're not going to do them. The main thing is if you make mistakes or do something that's hurtful, as long as you apologize, take responsibility, let your kid see you as human and as vulnerable, and let them know it's okay to make a mistake.
So, your previous book, Toxic Parents, didn't cover it? Why mothers and daughters?
Three or four months before I started the book, almost every person that was contacting me was a woman who had terrible mother issues. I also had many, many issues with my own mother and I didn't feel free to do this until she died, which was a year before I started the book. She was so paranoid and narcissistic she'd think I was doing this to punish her.
She was one of the archetypes in the book?
She was the "competitive narcissist," oh my God.
Those characteristics will resonate with many people. One of the refrains these moms use is, "Don't you say anything bad about me. I've done everything for you."
Right. "You don't know how tough I had it." The rationalizations, the denials. My mother was at the point where she would say things like, "I never said that. You're crazy. I never said that," and she had. Narcissistic people will do anything to keep from looking bad.
How taboo are bad moms? Worse than bad dads?
It's more acceptable to talk about bad dads because we think of men being louder, and if a man gets angry, he's had a bad day and that's just the way he is. It's much harder to say, "My mother was a bitch. My mother was awful to me."
But don't sons have it rough, too?
I have several men friends who have said to me this book is just as applicable to men as it is for women. All men have to do is change the gender. But there's something about that mother-daughter connection. She's your role model. Women define themselves by identifying with their mothers.
Can those mother-daughter relationships ever be repaired?
One of the worst, a mother who stood by while her husband was sexually abusing the daughter, had a hopeful outcome. The mother came in thin-lipped and very tense. She visibly, physically softened. Once they're crying, you got 'em. They're ready to go to another place. This mother did not want to lose this daughter. She was able to have the courage to say, "You're right. I was a coward." She said all the right stuff. I heard from that woman after she terminated therapy and she said, "We are working toward becoming friends."
What has worked for your patients – and you?
What worked for me was non-defensive behaviours, setting limits and boundaries. As far as the emotional work is concerned, I got to the point where I didn't get sucked into a lot of the stuff or overreact to the stabs and the jabs. I didn't mention this in the book because I didn't want it to sound like a memoir. And I don't think people want to see the expert as "damaged."
What percentage of these women are going to salvage a good or working relationship with their moms?
In terms of reunification, I would say less than half. The more damaged and the less the mother takes responsibility or is willing to be available for some kind of dialogue, the chances are good there won't be anything for them to go back to. In cases where the mother can soften a little bit – and you never know who it's going to be – you can set some ground rules and go step by step. You don't plunge in and go away for a month to Europe together. It has to be something felt little by little to see if this person is really amenable to change. You have to change, too, because you've been wimpy and passive and a scared little kid most of the time, even at 40 or 50.
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I am currently having a problem with a 1500 s.f travertine tile (18x18) installed over self leveler in new construction. I used a self leveler with a lifetime warrenty and the floor was installed 8 months ago. The travertine is spider webbing with no set pattern. The self leveling company says they are not responsibe becauce the deflection rate of the floor for travertine should have been L/720. According to the structual engineer the floor is in excess of L/360. Their is a large granite island installed in the kitchen and the Homeowners are using a Large slab kitchen table that must weigh 2 ton. Who is at fault? The contractor did not know the natural stone is to be installed on the floor at the time of construction, and no one knew that the homeowner was going to put that much weight on the floor with the table. I have never heard of a contractor building a floor with a deflection rate of L/720. The Homeowner wants the spider webbing tiles replaced and I think it will just happen all over again. Installation of the travertine was done with preimun thin set allowing for 1/8" movement and the self leveling was installed correctly...any thoughts out there?
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I'm currently going through my house and stiffing the structure where I will be installing stone.
My guess as to who is responsible would be however made a late decision to install travertine and/or the installer of the travertine for not recognizing that the floor isn't stiff enough. According to the experts, natural stone needs a minimum of L/720.
Agreed. L/720 is a very stiff floor, but is what it takes for a natural stone tile, especially an 18" one.
Although the architect/engineer should have caught it if the floor material was specified on the plans (which it wasn't you say), the ultimate responsibility falls on the tile installer for installing a product on a substandard substrate for that product. The tile guy's the tile expert, and should review the structural aspects of the plan and the as-built condition to determine if the floor was adequate.
Replacing the tiles won't do any good. They'll fail again.
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Look up ANSI A108.01 paragraph 2.3. It states floor systems including the framing and subfloor panels have to be installed in compliance with IRC for residential applications, The IBC for commercial or applicable building codes.
There is a note that follows:
"NOTE- The owner shall communicate in writing to the project design professional and general contractor the intended use of the tile installation,in order to enable the design pro & GC to make any necessary allowances for the expected live load, concentrated loads, impact loads, and dead loads including weight of the tile and setting bed. The installer shall not be responsible for any floor framing or subfloor framing or subfloor installation not compliant with applicable building codes, unless the installer or tile contractor designs and installs the floor framing or subfloor." Quote is from ANSI A108.01 paragraph 2.3
This change took place in 2005 and is new.
The TCNA 2008 handbook also states basically the same things, but in a condensed version of ANSI A108
The note at the bottom of every page covering tile over a wood structure has this note. It refers to page 12 for subfloor and substrate requirements by other trades. It also states tt\he Marble Institute of America references this handbook for certain dimensional stone. (Check the Stone Design Manual for which stones are referenced).
With this info I have given you, I suggest you talk to a lawyer before proceeding as every one is going to point fingers at you. At least you have something to go on now.
I realize there are many contractors out there that don't know this was changed in 2005. I'm extremely happy to say it did finally happen and this was after many years of work to make this a part of reality.
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> yo Group (especially Todd Gayley),
> I haven't yet found a way in J/Link to do this, or am I just thinking in
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> if there is no simple solution available in J/Link, maybe that could be
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The 2013 Cadillac ATS luxury sport sedan today was named the winner of the North American Car of the Year award.
A jury of 49 automotive journalists considered every new car released in the past year, and selected ATS as the winner. The award was announced at a press conference opening the 25th annual North American International Auto Show.
"This is a very meaningful honor for the entire Cadillac team, especially the men and women who build the ATS in Lansing, Michigan, and our dedicated and talented designers and engineers," said Bob Ferguson, GM vice president, global Cadillac. "A car like ATS is the result of incredible commitment and focus. That's the only method for creating a great performing luxury car."
The new ATS is the lightest car in its class with a unique architecture designed for nimble driving performance. The North American Car of the Year award is the latest in a growing list of accolades for the ATS, which was named Car of the Year by Esquire, and the Motor Press Guild, as well as several other awards.
A compact sport sedan, the ATS is offered in rear- and all-wheel drive versions, with a choice of powerful and efficient four- and six-cylinder engines. It recently received a 5-Star overall crash test rating in the New Car Assessment Program run by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
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Two Adults, Four Kids Killed in Three Vehicle Crash
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) - A 57-year-old woman, her daughter and four of her grandchildren were on their way to celebrate the release of her son from prison when they were killed in a multiple car accident, authorities said.
The family was traveling from Georgia to Jacksonville Friday night when their van was clipped by a speeding car, sending it into the median, where it was hit by a pickup truck, according to the Florida Highway Patrol.
According to police, Pedro Juan Ocasio Alcazar, 38, of Jacksonville was speeding Friday when his car hit another vehicle on a major highway. That car then went into the median and hit a pickup truck.
Those who died were identified Saturday as Melissa L. Mitchell, 39, Miya Mitchell, 11, and 4-year-old twin brothers Christian and Keyshawn Perry, all of Lawrenceville, Ga. The others who died were Brenda Mitchell Edwards, 57, and Dhanja Mitchell, 16, both of Jacksonville.
Alcazar, who was not injured, was charged Saturday with six counts of vehicular homicide in connection with the deaths.
Online jail records show he was being held at the Nassau County jail on $300,000 bond. He was assigned a public defender, but jail records did not list the attorney's name.
FHP said alcohol didn't appear to be a factor, but the accident was still under investigation.
The location of the crash is about 20 miles northwest of Jacksonville.
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Hometown: Los Angeles.
The lineup: Dee Dee (vocals, guitars), Jules (guitar), Frankie Rose (drums), Bambi (bass).
The background: Only a bunch of bright women would be smart enough to call themselves Dum Dum Girls. The name is, of course, taken from an Iggy Pop song (Dum Dum Boys), and if you think that's the extent of their pop-cultural savvy, wait till you hear who the Dummest girl, Dee Dee, drafted in to produce her band's debut album, I Will Be: Richard Gottehrer, responsible for such mini-epics of 60s bubblegum punk as My Boyfriend's Back and I Want Candy and producer of Richard Hell and the Voidoids, Blondie, the Go-Gos and, more recently, the Raveonettes. Also expect to see on the credits of the record shout-outs for Yeah Yeah Yeahs guitarist Nick Zinner and the drummer from the seriously similar-sounding Vivian Girls and Crystal Stilts, as well as the logo for seminal grunge label Sub Pop – that's who Dum Dum Girls are signed to, and that's the world to which they belong.
Dum Dum Girls, it hardly needs saying, are a pop archivist's delight. They're part of an indie tradition that began with the Jesus and Mary Chain, a tried-and-tested alternative practice involving melody being shrouded in lo-fi murk and sweet Shangri-Las girl-group sonority meeting savage Stooges sonics. It's a classic duality that Dee Dee describes as a "dark and sunny feel", one that was perhaps captured best by the Mary Chain themselves in their famous song title Only Happy When It Rains – the joy of despair and ecstasy of sorrow, and all that.
I Will Be comes in at a classically concise 30 minutes, and features 11 short, sharp odes to dejection and romance, and the romance of dejection, bearing song titles you can see coming a mile off such as It Only Takes One Night, Baby Don't Go, and Blank Girl. As for the Dum Dum Girls, they comprise a San Diego-based furniture designer, a non-profit worker from Austin, and a professional drummer from New York. To make up for their uncool day jobs, they take assumed names and wear matching outfits onstage, mostly black, to heighten the impression of them as a gang – a gang of depressed noiseniks with an ear for melody and a heart full of malady (sorry).
They all met for the first time a week before CMJ 2009, where they were pronounced the #1 Best Band at the festival. They have all the hallmarks of a C86 in-joke from Brooklyn, but they, or at least introverted frontwoman Dee Dee, actually live in lovely laidback California. Hardly what you might imagine to be the perfect environment for these paeans to emotional pain, right? Wrong! Turns out it's the ideal milieu for Dee's muse. "You're miserable in the sun because you're stuck," she recently told the Mercury Lounge. "Like, it's so perfect that it's overwhelming and depressing. That's sorta inspiring." Perverse, but it works, as it has done for a quarter-century or more. Like we say, tried and tested.
The buzz: "Blissed-out buzzsaw indie-pop."
The truth: This sort of thing has never proven itself commercially, but expect critical raves.
Most likely to: Dream of the Mudd Club.
Least likely to: Have a mud fight with Vivian Girls.
What to buy: The single Jail La La is out now. The album I Will Be is released on 29 March.
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What is the best digital camera to use for taking cosplay pictures?
There is no "best" digital camera for taking any photo, cosplay or other wise. I've seen people take amazing, stylish photos using a 2 year old, 3mp digital camera. On the other hand I've seen people take terrible pictures with a $1,000 camera set up, with expensive digital camera and external flash.
So basically go to any camera review site, I happen to like dpreview.com. Research the camera with the needs that you are looking for and how much you are willing to spend.
I'd say at a minimum, get something that has a 3x or more optical zoom. Built in flash for night pictures and something with at least 4 megapixels. But that's what I suggest for anyone that's looking to buying a digital camera, not just one for cosplay pictures.
I've used this one digital camera that was about $200 (not mine) and the pictures always came out pixelated and messed up. I also used a really nice disposable camera... it came out pretty much the same way. I had good lighting and used flash when necessary. They only look messed up when I put them on the computer. On the digital camera's little view screen they look good, and with the disposable the prints come out well. What am I doing wrong?
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It has a 7.0x zoom, flash, can record like a camcorder (but it depends on how much space you have on your memory card), you can do black and white, it has a decent sized LCD screen......PM me to know more!
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I have a Konica Minolta DiMAGE X31. It's an excellent camera for my needs, which are fairly basic -- it's 3.1 MP, and only cost me about $150. It has fun built-in features that allow you to change the effects of your photos: soft filter, posterization, black and white, sepia, etc., and it takes really great night shots with or without flash. (Though clearly, without flash you need adequate lighting.) It's also easily transportable, being small enough to be pocket-sized ... and what really won me over between the DiMAGE and the Canon PowerShot was the fact that the DiMAGE has a tiny mirror on the front to aid you in taking pictures of yourself. xD
To me, the pixelization sounds like a focus issue, which can happen with any camera. When you look at things such as zoom, in particular, I agree on the 3X optical zoom. Just watch out that a camera you choose doesn't have just a digital zoom ... or, as mine, it has an optical zoom to a certain point, then it goes digital. Digital zoom reduces picture quality.
But again, I agree with Ziggy ... you can have a hugely expensive camera and still not be able to take pictures. Whereas I feel I've taken some more than adequate ones with my little $150 pocket-sized digicam. It's not necessarily the camera so much as who wields it. Kinda like the One Ring. ;)
Just going to chime in agreement with everyone above. Arguably the best photographer in our group happens to be the one with the cheapest camera: a very average Sony compact digicam. The camera matters much much less than the photographer does.
One thing I'll suggest is that there's no good substitute for trying out any camera model you wish to buy yourself. DPReview is a good start, but once you have a model in mind, go down to a good consumer electronics store that lets you try out equipment, and seriously try it out. For many people, the important thing isn't so much tech features, but more of the little things, like the way the camera feels in your hand, the ability to use an LCD, perhaps the ability to tilt said LCD, etc.
The only other thing I'd suggest is that if you do want a digital camera, it probably does pay to think a little seriously about it, and not to jump automatically on the cheapest model available. Find some reviews, try out a model, and if it feels right for you, take the plunge and have fun!
I have a Canon 4.0 S410, an old 3.2 Olympus and a Panasonic 2.0
Canon's colours are the most "real", Olympus' lenses usually take in a tad more red.
However i find that my Olympus is easier to focus than my Canon.
the panasonic is just s superslim for con-pics
Overall...i dunno, i like Canon S-series and Sony Cybershots the most for cosplay purposes. ^_^
I use Casio Exilim Z55. It's 5.0 megapixels, with a rather large screen (approx. 4x5.5cm) The resolution is great, when you know how to change the settings (if required). The colours are very close to what you took the picture of although for some reason the screen will have red eye but when I upload to the pc the red eye disappears. It's a rather small camera too about 5.5x8cm, so it pretty handy. It uses an average san disk so you can change how many photos can be taken, although the camera it self with the internal memory is pretty low.
the camera is around $500, and with the cameras I've worked with it's actually really good for it's price.
I would say that before you buy the camera, read up on the subject of photography. An experienced photographer can get decent images from even mediocre cameras. What good is buying a pricey camera if you don't understand some photography techniques?
There are a lot of nuances in photography and the camera manufacturers tout such aspects in their specifications. If you don't know the photography lingo and what a particular lingo is used for in photography, you won't be able to make a good buying decision.
If none of this matters to you, and you are looking for a camera that takes "good enough" photos, many 3 Megapixel cameras will do the job. Those can be had for around $100-$250.
Canon and Nikon are widely considered by photographers to have the best high-end and middle-range cameras. Olympus is a good middle-range camera manufacturer. Fuji, Kodak, and Casio seem to push for affordable low-end and middle-end cameras. I think Sony models are overpriced for their feature sets, and I would not recommend them.
I used to sell cameras, and have owned all the major names.
The best advice I can give you is to stay away from Fuji, ESPECIALLY if it's "Super CCD". I don't care how good the salesman is, they produce bad quality photos! Especially at cons.
Don't be afraid to leave the store without a camera. It pays to research.
I recommend http://www.stevesdigicams.com/ for honest camera reviews.
And be careful where you buy it.
- Stores that're sponsored by certain companies will lie to sell you their sponsor. I know this because my previous employer was sponsored by Fuji, and the stuff that came out of their mouths was ridiculous.
- Avoid WalMart if you have questions or concerns. Walmart does not train their staff on cameras. If they know anything, it's their own opinions and may not have solid support for it.
- Be honest. Some people in the camera sales business only care about what they have to do to sell you that camera. If you don't like it for whatever reason, don't just settle with it!
I went to BLACKs to buy cameras that my store didn't have access to. Right away the salesguy was trying to sell me crap, even after I told him I sold cameras myself and knew exactly what I wanted.
Apparently "I'm not interested in this," means "please, tell me more about this shitty camera!"
I ended up having to ask for the manager, who thankfully spoke to me like I wasn't an idiot, and actually helped me find the camera of my dreams ^_^
Expect to pay around $200 for a good starter-end digital camera ^^
I recommend at least 3.0 megapixels. Avoid digital zoom.
My favourite brand is Sony, but they're not for everyone. Especially if price is a concern.
Good luck!
Photographer here, who recently upgraded from a Vivitar 2.3 megapixel camera with 3x optical zoom to the Cannon Rebel Digital SLR (and that was one big quality and price jump). My nickel's worth of input:
When I was looking to move up in camera models I was examining high-zoom cameras with at least 4 megapixels because I wanted to do at least 8x10 sized prints. From that, and previous camera experience, I can give you a bit of general advice...
If all you want is 4x6 photos, 3 megapixels is fine. If you want to go to 5x7s, you'll manage fine as well. If you want 8x10s I'd say go 4-5 (five being better). Because once you exceed your megapixels to sizing, you get pixelated photos.
Since you're going to a con to take photos, size may be an issue. A compact camera with no detatchable lenses and gear that you can do quick snaps with is probably more what you want than my monster of an SRL (which I carried for Anime Expo with no regrets)
I'll address basic zoom by echoing what has already been mentioned: Ignore digital zoom, it stinks. Optical zoom 3x is probably good for basic needs and comes on many small-sized cameras.
And the main thing I recomend is: research! Find out what kind of features you MUST have in a camera, and then find out which kind of features are nice but you can live without. And go hold the things - Best Buy, Fry's, Circuit City, etc. all have cameras out on display that you can hold in your hand and get a feel for their grip, heft, and button placement.... and those are a bigger deal than you might think. Some places will let you also take shots with the camera when its on with a memory card... that does help to see your recycle time (big issue for larger zoom cameras).
Memory Cards: While its not as important as the camera itself, what type of memory card your camera will require will up the price of your picture taking gear. Compact Flash memory is a lot cheaper than XD memory, to the point that a 1 GB CF card can cost as much as a 528 XD... And different brands of camera use different types of memory cards.
- Avoid WalMart if you have questions or concerns. Walmart does not train their staff on cameras. If they know anything, it's their own opinions and may not have solid support for it.
Avoid them for photo developing too. Their colors are horrid, and their prints come out fuzzy. Black and white photos = green and white or blue and white depending on your color views... never again.
Oh, and genome_loki
They only look messed up when I put them on the computer. On the digital camera's little view screen they look good, and with the disposable the prints come out well. What am I doing wrong?
1- the view screen on a digital always looks good: they're no bigger than 2 inch screens after all. Those are useful IMO to see if you cropped a head off, and if they have their eyes open (sometimes too small to tell) but not to see if focus is off.
2- Printing from the disposable prints is the film itself, and if you take it somewhere to develop your film then yeah, they come out good 'cause they got the developing equipment to make it that way.
3- It was suggested that the pics might be out of focus if they're blurry. But I can't tell you what is making them 'messed up' because I don't know the specifics of the 'mess up' on the computer screen. Are they out of focus and blurry? Do they look pixellated? Were you scanning prints or doing a direct transfer?
Avoid them for photo developing too. Their colors are horrid, and their prints come out fuzzy. Black and white photos = green and white or blue and white depending on your color views... never again.
amen! I used to work in one of those photo specialized processing shops, you'd be AMAZED at how poorly their printing can be. The stuff customers would bring to us in hopes we could do better was ridiculous. Mind you, not every one of their prints suck, just the majority ^^;
Never take your film there either! about 2/5ths of the time they ruin negatives!! We had a couple who brought in 9 rolls of wedding photos... ALLLLL RUINED!! And I mean, the negatives were beyond repair ruined T-T They looked like beautiful photos too. Apparently they cant mix chemicals either ~_~
Your post was really good!
I am SO jealous of your Digial Rebel!! I wanted that camera the day it came out XD It's a lot cheaper now, but I'm looking at other SLRs as well.
I'm thrilled with my Rebel (got it in Feb). I got it with a kit promotion: the body, and two lenses, the 1gb card, a tripod and camera bag too! The tripod is so-so and the bag is decent, but the rest of the package was top notch ^^
Still, the bulk of the Rebel (and all Digital SLRs) and the lens and such that you hae to take with you, as well as the manual zoom and other features that make me love it - NO RECYCLE TIME! AND A REAL VIEW FINDER! NONE OF THAT DIGITAL VIEWFINDER CRUD! - might make it undesireable for a lot of convention goers... but keep it one of my 'no regrets' purchases.
I looked into the Nikon before I chose the Cannon - I liked the grip and the weight balance on the Cannon better. I have small hands and the Nikon extra heft and balance was even harder to get my hands about. And, all their Cannon lenses and external flashes are so interchangable that Sunday another CAnnon camera user was able to loan me his flash and we knew it would fit and work perfectly. ^^
You can also find good camera shops by asking local photographers where they shop. Usually the smaller shops have more knowledgeable staff.
just to add my 2 cents as long as it's 3.0 mega pixles and above then it's fine.
Here is my obscure and probably irrelevant-to-you points on digital cameras:
* Kodak is Good because all of their stuff uses PTP (and is thus very easy to use in Un*x)
* Most of the time I only take pictures to post on web sites or e-mail to friends. For this purpose my 2.3 megapixel Kodak DC3400 was more than sufficient, in fact, I usually kept it on the lowest size and quality settings (and it still looked great)
I'll probably replace it with another Kodak.
Here is my obscure and probably irrelevant-to-you points on digital cameras:
* Kodak is Good because all of their stuff uses PTP (and is thus very easy to use in Un*x)
* Most of the time I only take pictures to post on web sites or e-mail to friends. For this purpose my 2.3 megapixel Kodak DC3400 was more than sufficient, in fact, I usually kept it on the lowest size and quality settings (and it still looked great)
I'll probably replace it with another Kodak.
i would say the best camera for the money and quality would be the canon 20D. i've heard that fujifilm is good as well.
Two words: optical zoom. O_O Do NOT buy one with digital, your pictures will come out pixilated and don't focus long distances. Case and point -
Digital zoom: http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=291601
Optical zoom: http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=387581
^_^ Hope that helps, good luck!
My old camera was a 4 mp Casio Exilim EX-Z4. It wasnt too good, it took good shots while on a tripod, but on other occasions it was mostly lacking.. (not to mention it always gave a horrible blue haze which I couldn't get rid of even after adjusting white balance, etc.)
While in Japan I just bought a Sony Cybershop 7.2 mp DSC-W7 and it is a frickin awesome camera. Great clear shots. I just wish I had it from the start of my trip :\ Its a little expensive, but very awesome.
Two words: optical zoom. O_O Do NOT buy one with digital, your pictures will come out pixilated and don't focus long distances. Case and point -
Digital zoom: http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=291601
Optical zoom: http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=387581
^_^ Hope that helps, good luck!
Digital zoom is software manipulation to enlarge the image. It is no different than using Photoshop or other image editor program and using its zoom function.
Optical zoom is using the lenses. However, having a better optical zoom makes the camera more expensive (i.e. better lenses and mechanics).
Read the camera specifications very carefully. Manufacturers often obscure the optical and digital zoom values into a single zoom number, in order to sell the camera better. You should research what the camera's optical zoom is.
Yes Kodak are good cameras now ^_^
When I bought one 2 (3?) years ago, they were horrible XD But now they're great!
The only advice I can give is don't spend all your photography budget on the camera. You need to also set aside some money for other things like maybe an extra battery, memory sticks, software, inkjet toner for the printer, ect...
I have an Argus DC3640, 3.1 Megs with a 4x Digital zoom, internal flash, and can take video, uses SD cards. I love it, its great for everyday photography, and cons as well, especially for what I paid (and I lucked into a free bag, cleaner kit and all sorts of other accessories). It cost about $100 which is fair, and its digital zoom is amazing. Surprizingly enough, I haven't had a pixelated picture from it. Ever. Even at max zoom. Half the time they come out blurry but that's operator error, since the blurry ones come from other people taking pictures with it.
Its a good starter. You can adjust sharpness and some other things of the sort. Its lightweight, and fits nicely in my hands (I have small fraile hands mind you.) I only plan to buy another one because I want sepia/black and white features and stuff like that.
Though Kodak Easyshares are also really good. They are however, larger and a bit fumbly for those who aren't use to them.
After August 21, I'll have posted pics I took from Realms-con.
OMG, digital camera thread. I actually LOST MINE on a friggin' taxi!!
So I'll be getting another for my birthday... Maybe you guys can help me? I want a camera that is cheap-ish ($300 the most because I suck at getting money) but takes GOOD QUALITY photos. You know what I mean? Like for example, a cybershot with and without flash, even though it's clear, it just looks like crap. Flash makes things all shiney and weird. They almost look as bad as disposable camera pictures. Then some other digital cameras take pictures that look like photographer-quality... THAT'S the kind I want.
I was thinking Canon PowerShot A75? What do you suggest?
-points to given link-
Go there, it tells you all about the cam that I have. It gives more info than I could.
I love my Sony Cybershot S85, its one of the better cameras I have used (including friends more expensive cameras) - it just needs a better zoom. My sister has a fujifilm, its a piece of junk.
What is a good store to buy a good digital camera?
Two Cents from a person who doesn't know all the tech. stuff about cameras
About the whole Wal*Mart issue, don't avoid it all together...just avoid the staff. They have some pretty good cameras there if you know what you're looking for. I took a gamble and brought a Samsung for about $137...with 4 megapixels. It's the best digital camera I've ever used. About their photo developing: I don't know...I never GO to Wally World for that. Usually head over to CVS..Wait..I did go with some wedding photos before. Yeah, they ARE horrible! Except for that little Kodak machine...It does pretty good MOST of the time, but your picture could come out a different color from the original. I had orange teeth in my senior pics....
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What is a good store to buy a good digital camera?
Look around and comparison shop. I bought mine off Walmart.com, because it was what I wanted and it was on clearance ... and I was able to get a replacement agreement through their website. However, in an actual Wal-Mart store, they do not offer the protection plan!
I would definitely recommend a replacement agreement, no matter where you go (as long as the place offers it, at least), because they're only about $15-20 extra, and you never know when you'll get jostled around in a crowd at a con and drop your camera. I almost dropped mine several times at Animazement!
Ok, I think that this thread has run it's course. This thread is no longer about photography techniques. So it's going to be closed.


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You might remember the Samsung ATIV Smart PC we looked at a little while ago. That's the 'budget' X86 convertible tablet/laptop in Samsung's Windows 8 range. The next model up is the 11.6-inch Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro (or 700T1C in model-numer-speak), which replaces the Atom processor with a full-blown Core i5 or i7, and swaps the 1,366 x 768 screen resolution for a lovely Full HD PLS panel. It's essentially the sequel to the Samsung Series 7 Slate 700T.
Read the full Windows 8 review here
In case this is the first time you've come across the ATIV Smart PC range, it's Samsung's full Windows 8 version of the Asus Transformer form factor which combines a tablet with a keyboard base to make a laptop. All the ATIV Smart PCs support touch and Wacom stylus goodness.
Where the Atom-based Smart PC is comparable to the Vivo Tab, the Smart PC Pro takes on the Asus Taichi and Microsoft Surface Pro, amongst others.
Wondering which Windows 8 device to get? Have a read of our Best Windows 8 Laptops Tablets Convertibles and PCs roundup
Though the Smart PC Pro is definitely at the premium end of the market, the tablet itself is constructed using plastic, albeit with a nice brushed metal-effect finish. This is to keep its weight down, as because of the power it packs in the tab alone weighs 884g, considerably heavier than inevitable comparisons to the iPad.
However, the keyboard base is made of metal. This lends it a very premium feel at odds with the tablet part, yet again there's logic behind the difference: this was done to increase the keyboard base's weight (bringing the entire package to 1.6kg), so that it balances the tablet part and avoids the falling-over-backwards flaw that plagued the Asus Transformer.
Mind you, the dock does not contain an extra battery as does the more budget-oriented Samsung Smart PC's one, though it does give you extra connectivity. This is a real shame, as the powerful Pro tablet inevitably already offers shorter battery life than its Atom sibling.
The tablet itself is a very svelte 12mm thick, and with keyboard attached matches many Ultrabooks at 22mm. However, if you'd rather have a thinner tablet without losing the physical keyboard, there will be a Microsoft Surface-like keyboard cover that's a mere 4mm thin.
The Smart PC Pro tablet is well-endowed in the connectivity department. The tablet itself sports a headphone jack, full-size USB 3.0 port and microSD card slot for expanding its storage along its top, plus a microHDMI for video output along with the volume rocker on its left.
A physical rotation lock is a welcome touch too. Wireless is particularly comprehensive thanks to Wi-Fi N, Bluetooth 4.0 and 3G/4G wireless broadband with accompanying SIM slot.
The keyboard dock adds a further two USB 2.0 ports (the data interconnect between tablet and keyboard can't cope with USB 3.0) to the equation, though alas no full-size SD card reader. This is annoying for photographers, and we can only hope Samsung will bring out another dock down the line with a battery and full SD card slot built in.
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Is there any info on the supposed upcoming 4mm Surface-like keyboard cover? I haven't seen any coverage anywhere else or official info/hint about such a thing.
I have the Smart PC (non-Pro) Tablet without the Keyboard. Do you know if it's the same keyboard for the 500T?
No info aside from it's coming and should be available near launch. This has been confirmed to me by a reliable source. [edit] Of course, being on the roadmap doesn't mean it will make it...
No it's a different keyboard dock which won't fit your tab. Cheers.
oooooh yes.... i was almost frustrated, i couldnt find a powerful win8 with 3g/4g connectivity, out of no choice, i was gonna end up with acer w510... i'd prefer asus taichi or sony vaio duo with a slider keyboard, but they both dont come with a simcard slot, but this will do...
Is there any info on the i7 version release or a 256gb Hard drive?
in samsung's global site, the ativ pro has an i5/pdc/celeron processor. what does it mean ? or what is "celeron" doing there ?
"The business version also come with a class-leading five year warranty as standard."
Could you please shed some light on that matter?
I have just ordered from big online FR shop the "rich" model, and i would like to know if the 5-year warranty statement that you made is accurate.
Thank you.
Could you name one rival 8-core i-something tablet with a 256GB SSD?
Nope unfortunately it's not looking like we'll see either for now...
Yes that statement is accurate, with the business version referring to the Win 8 Pro model. In fact, if you buy the ATIV Pro from a retailer like Misco (to name but one), you'll automatically get a 5-year warranty on all models.
Sorry for the late replies all, hand't checked this preview in a wee while.
not an 8-core, no, but one example of a high-end Windows 8 convertible that comes with up to a Core i7, 8GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD would be the Lenovo ThinkPad Helix. [http://www.trustedreviews.c...]
No idea, but none of the UK versions come with Celeron.
Don't forget that the Lenovo ThinkPad Helix [http://www.trustedreviews.com/...] also fits your needs...
I'd wait for our shoot-out before deciding :)
I got the new one that just came out here in South Korea, with i5 and 256GB
This article said that a surface like keyboard cover is coming out, but when? They dont have anything like that even on Samsung's Korean homepage or at the samsung stores in Seoul. I totally want to buy one, but sounds like wishful thinking to me!
I originally had the 700T1C-A04 (sim slot version) but i feel there is a design flaw in that if your sim card has got the pin lock enabled, even when the Ativ is put into sleep mode the sim is locked and so has to be unlocked before you can use mobile broadband, I now have from Ballicom the 700T1C-A05 (no sim slot) but 128GB ssd and i am using an external MiFI unit for mobile broadband.
I wonder if this device can use while charging?? Just like an ordinary laptops that you only remove battery then connect to power supply then that's it!, it can use for long time.
there's no tablet laptop with cd support?
This is a real shame, as the powerful Pro tablet inevitably already offers shorter battery life than its Atom sibling.
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do you belong to the mid york bee club? bob
Looks like Italians to me.
Most feral Italians quickly "degenerate" to that more dark leather coloring instead of the more yellow brown color. .
These original importations, made nearly a 100 years ago, were mainly of the leather-coloured variety, and it was undoubtedly the tawny Ligurian native bee that established the reputation of the Italian. ."


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Forgetful Frustration
Do you frequently find yourself staring at the printout of an MS Excel worksheet and wondering just what you called that file?
Or better yet, even if you think you know what it's called, where exactly did you save it?
Here's a quick suggestion that may cut down on the "lost file frustration" you may be feeling. Let's try putting the file name, either with or without the file path, in the footer of the file.
If that sounds like a solution to your problem, you first need to get to the footer. While there's several ways to get there, one of them is through the View menu, Header and Footer choice.
Once in the Header and Footer window, you have a couple of choices.
One is to use the list of preset footers to choose your file name.
Click OK to return to your worksheet with that preset footer information.
Another choice is one that allows you to format the text and add additional information, if necessary. It's called the Custom Footer.
If you click the Custom Footer button, you'll find a window that opens with three sections: the left, center and right sections of the footer.
Click in a section to place your cursor.
Now, click the button (or buttons) that will insert the information you need.
- The button on the left will insert both the path and file name.
- The center button will insert only the file name.
- The right button will insert the tab name of the worksheet.
Click OK twice to get back to your worksheet when you've got the information and formatting you desire.
With that information at the bottom of the printed page, it should reduce your "lost file frustrations!"
Oh, and don't worry, for those of you who like to move your files around, there's still no problem. Excel will update the information as needed.
Wow! If only forwarding my mail when I move could be that easy. Give it a try!
~ April