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NOTE: I'm including 2 spoiler submissions here. The first tells the story and the 2nd one explains it.
The 1st was sent in by mli0922
The movie begins as strangers are forced to take shelter from flooded roads and highly resembles the novel And Then There Were None. They include a limo driver (John Cusack) driving a fading actress (Rebecca De Mornay), a family of a stepdad (John C. McGinley), a mom, and a 6 yr-old boy, a cop (Ray Liotta) transporting a convicted killer (Jake Busey), a newlyweds couple (Clea DuVall and William Lee Scott), and a call girl (Amanda Peet) fleeing her Las Vegas life.
Since the movie's beginning is shown in a Memento kind of way, I'll just tell them in a "normal" way. The movie starts as a psychiatrist (Alfred Molina) is reviewing files of a convicted murderer who is about to go on death row in less that 48 hrs.. The scene cuts to a judge being waken by a phone call. It turns out, the judge is being called to a late night meeting where a diary of the convicted murderer has just been discovered.
The next scene is a motel standing in the middle of the Nevada desert, while rain is pounding relentlessly on it. John C. McGinley is driving his family through the rain. Just as the mother tells the boy to turn off his toy, their car's tire blows out. Stepping out of the car, McGinley discovers that he just ran over a high-heeled shoe. The scene cuts to an earlier scene. Amanda Peet is driving on the same road. While she's looking for her lighter, her suit case flies open, her clothes flies out, including her shoes. The mother is standing out in the rain, asking her husband if he needs any help, and he says no. Just as she looks at her son sitting inside the car, a limo suddenly runs her over. The scene cuts to the limo. The driver (Cusack) is looking for cell phone batteries that were demanded by the actress (De Mornay), and that's why he didn't see the mother standing in the middle of the road. Cusack drives De Mornay and the family to the nearest motel. He asks the manager (Hawkes) for the nearest hospital, Hawkes tells Cusack that it's 30 miles East. Cusack begins to drive to the hospital. Two miles into the drive, he meets Amanda Peet who is blocked by a flooded road. She convinces Cusack to drive back to the motel since there was no where to go. Just as they are about to turn around, they meet the newlywed couple (Clea DuVall and William Lee Scott). Peet and Cusack then convinces the newlyweds to drive all 4 of them back to the hotel since the limo has sunk into the flooded road.
The movie cuts back to the Judge, the psychiatrist, and some lawyers. The defense lawyer is arguing that they should not start the hearing since his client has not arrived. The judge says the Defendant has little right since he's to be killed in less than 36 hrs. The hearing begins.
Back at the motel, the mother is really hurt. Everyone gets a room (Numbered from 1 to 10). While this is happening, a cop car drives up. Ray Liotta steps out of the car and announces that he's delivering a convict. The manager gives them a room too. The actress has finally charged up her cell phone battery, and she steps out to find a signal. She trails along the walls of the motel and she finds herself in the middle of a yard. Suddenly she hears some noises in the bushes, she turns around, she screams, and she is stabbed to death (the killer is not seen).
Cusack is awakened by the screaming. He grabs the gun from his limo, and he steps out of his room. He follows a noise that leads to the laundry room. He opens the door, and finds the actress's head inside one of the machines. The cop and the manager also enters the laundry room, and they're shocked, and they find a key with #10 on it. A meeting is held in John C. McGinley's family's room. Everyone is shocked, and Clea DuVall is FREAKED out. John Cusack reveals that he used to be a cop, and also that there is a convicted felon in this motel, and the actress has been killed. He and Ray Liotta and John Hawkes heads to Liotta's room to see if the convict is still there. As it turns out, he has escaped. Cusack and Liotta begins to search the motel grounds for the convict. The motel manager sneaks into an empty room, and steals money and other objects from a suitcase.
Clea DuVall and William Lee Scott heads to their room. DuVall reveals that she's not pregnant, and starts a fight with Scott. DuVall locks herself in the bathroom while Scott furiously pounds on the door. Suddenly, the pounding stops, DuVall steps out of the bathroom and finds Scott's body. She screams, and sees the killer's shadow. She fights to lock the bathroom door and escapes out of the window. The convict runs across the desert (he is obviously not the killer), and sees building in front of him. Cusack is taking pictures of the scene, and he is joined by Amanda Peet. While taking pictures of Scott, they find a key with #9 on it.
Cut to the meeting between the judge and the lawyers. The convict is delivered on a wheel chair. He is a large bald man.
The escaped convict breaks into the building he had just seen few hundred feet away. Suddenly, he sees Cusack and Peet's shape, and he is extremely shocked. He turns around, Liotta knocks him out. Liotta and Cusack ties the convict to a chair and orders the motel manager to watch him. Liotta and Cusack continues to search for the killer. As they return from their search, they runs into Peet, and the manager holding a tin box. Liotta is pissed. He is furious that the manager is not watching the convict. Cusack starts to argue with the manager as Liotta walks into the room. Liotta yells, "What the fuck happened to my guy?!?!" Cusack, Peet, and the manager walks into the room. Inside the room, they find the convict dead, and with a base ball bat stuck down his throat. Cusack and Liotta begins to question the manager. Asking him why did he kill the convict. The manager persists that he didn't kill anyone, but Liotta insists that it's him bat that's stuck down the convict's throat. Cusack finds another key, and this time, there's the #8 on it. Liotta knocks the manager down, his box flies open, and the actress's wallet falls out. Liotta is more sure that the manager convicted the murders. The manager suddenly grabs Peet, and puts a knife to her throat. Peet elbows the manager, they crash onto the refrigerator, and a frozen body falls out. The manager runs out of the room, and gets into the truck. As he starts driving, McGinley sees his stepson is in the way. As he tries to save his step son, the manager runs him over with his truck.
Liotta ties the manager, who is still insisting that he didn't do it, onto a chair. He says he found the guy in the fridge lying dead on a counter. So he put him in a fridge, hoping someone would come to claim him, but no one ever did. Everyone that's still alive starts to argue. Clea DuVall suggests that there might be a connection between them, just like in that novel with the 10 little Indians. It turns out that the manager and Amanda Peet are both from the same town in Florida. The little boy goes to the other room to check on his mother, while Cusack continues to trace their similarities. A while later, Liotta goes into the other room, and he finds the mother has finally died. He calls everyone in. The boy is petrified by the scene of his mother's dead body. DuVall takes him to the other room. Suddenly, Cusack discovers a key with #6 on it. Everyone is freaked. They run out, Peet backs up the truck that crushed McGinley, and Cusack discovers a key with #7 on it.
Cusack orders DuVall to take the boy and start driving. DuVall takes the kid, and they head out to DuVall's car that's parked in the gas station. Just as Amanda Peet is about to join them, the car explodes. Liotta grabs a fire extinguisher, and stops the fire. However, there was no one in the car. Amanda Peet tells them that it's not possible since they all saw what happened. Cusack leads them to rest of the bodies, and they could not find any. Everyone's bodies have disappeared. Liotta, Cusack, Peet, and Hawke are all dumbfounded. Hawke mentions Happy Birthday to Peet, and says that his birthday is May 10th also. Liotta says it's also his birthday, and Cusack says, "Yeah." Cusack goes into the lobby, and looks at everyone's driver's license copy. Everyone in the motel tonight has their birthday on May 10th.
Here's where the confusion begins. The film cut back to the meeting between the defendant, the psychiatrist, and the judge. Alfred Molina explains to the defendant that he has a split personality disorder. He has created all these characters. Molina asks the defendant what happened. (At this point, the defendant's face is that of John Cusack's. It is as if John Cusack is the defendant) The defendant says there was a storm, they couldn't get out, and people started dying. However, Molina tells him that someone took the advantage of the defendant's sickness, and convicted 4 horrific murders 4 years ago. The defendant looks confused. Molina shows him a mirror, and a fat bald man's face appears. "Cusak" is shocked. He says it's not his face. Molina tells him that he created all these character, and tonight, 4 identities have been destroyed.
Cut back to the motel. Peet goes into Liotta's cop car to find something. She accidentally discovers some conviction papers. They include the dead convict, and...suprise! Ray Liotta's!! Liotta is a convict too!! The movie cuts to earlier. A cop is delivering Liotta and the dead convict to some where. Liotta puts a knife through his seat, killing the cop. Liotta takes the cop's clothes, and throws the body in the trunk, and pushes the dead convict back into the back seat. Peet opens the truck, and sure enough, she sees the real cop's body. She whispers to call the manager over to her, Liotta hears the whisper, and heads to Peet. While Peet tries to escape from Liotta, the manager knocks Liotta down. Just as the manager tries to grab Liotta's gun, Liotta wakes up and kills the manager. Peet tries to escape again. She runs into Cusack, and asks for his help. Cusack tells Peet not to move, and gets into a gun fight with Liotta. Both Liotta and Cusack is killed.
Cut back to next morning. The judge orders to cancel the defendant's execution, and be send to a psychiatric hospital. At the same time, Amanda Peet continues to drive to Florida. At her Florida home, Peet is digging on the soil, and she suddenly finds a key with #1 on it. From this moment on, the movie cuts between Peet and the van transferring the defendant. Peet slowly looks up, and discovers the little boy from the motel holding a plowing fork. She whispers, "Timmy?"
It turns out the little boy, Timmy, is the killer at the hotel. He killed the actress, he suffocated his mother, the convict at the motel, and he some how mentally controlled the limo to hit his mother, and the manager to kill his father.
Timmy and the defendant talks at the same time. They say, "WHores don't get a second chance." Timmy kills amanda peet, while the defendant strangles Alfred Molina in the van and kills the driver.
This 2nd spoiler explanation was sent in by glenharmon.
In the beginning of the movie, we are told that there is a guard transporting a homicidal death-row inmate to his final clemency hearing before execution. We do not see the death-row prisoner until about half way through the movie, but we do learn that he killed many people four years ago. The death-row killer played by Pruitt Taylor Vance had suffered extremely traumatic events as a child resulting in Severe Multiple Personalities Disorder.
In his case, his mother was a prostitute and would leave her son in a seedy motel while she worked. One night she was murdered, leaving him abandoned in the hotel until he was found by authorities and institutionalized for quite some time. After he grew up, he got out and started a killing spree resulting in the death sentence. Or, as the defense psychiatrist summed it up, one of his multiple personalities became a serial killer and that he was too insane to be executed
This comes out later in the movie, but I am telling you now so that the rest of the movie will make sense:
In therapy leading up the death-row prisoners clemency hearing, the psychiatrist had set the stage for an inner confrontation between the convicted killers' multiple personalities hoping they will be wiped out in this inner battle, especially the murderous one leaving only his true personality.
This brings us to the washed out roads, the rain that never stops and the creepy motel. One by one, 10 people arrive at the forgotten desert motel, seeking refuge from the rain. Some of them are seeking refuge from other things.
John Cusacks character Ed is an ex-cop turned limo driver. He works the hardest to help everyone.
There is Rebecca De Mornay who plays a demanding, selfish has-been movie star.
Bret Loehr is little Timothy York, a mute kid, his mother who gets fatally wounded at the beginning of the movie and his functioning autistic step-dad. When asked why the boy does not speak, his step dad says that he stopped speaking when something really bad happened to him a while back.
Theres Amanda Peets character: Paris Texas. She is a woman fleeing the life of prostitution with lots of saved up money to buy an orange grove in Florida and settle down.
Larry the Hotel Desk Clerk, played by John Hawkes is hiding something, but not what you think.
There is the newlywed couple, a distraught young woman who lied about being pregnant in order to marry her husband just 9 hours earlier.
And lastly, there is the State Dept. of Corrections Worker [Ray Liotta] who is transporting a psychotic convict [Jake Busy]. Neither of these last two guys ends up being who you think they are.
The killing starts counting down from 10, with each victim having a room key placed on or near their body.
John Cussacks ex-cop is doing his best to help solve the murders and protect those still living, call for help on the radio and attend to the dying woman.
Jake Busy, the psycho-convict that we thought was the killer is found dead. That means the killer is still out there. His supposed guard Ray Liotta has more to worry about than just the state of corrections now. You see, he escaped along with Jake Busy character after the killed the guard and took his clothes. At one point, you can see the bloody hole in the back of the shirt when Liotta put it back on.
So, now it seems like it will be a confrontation between Liotta and Cussack.
That is until we see Cussacks character start slipping between realities. Now, he is a straight jacket in the clemency hearing. What am I doing here, he says. They show him a mirror and he sees the face of a fat bald man, the death row con that we thought Jake Busy was playing in the hotel.
So, we have slipped into the clemency hearing and we find out that Ed is one of the Multiple personalities of the death row convict. We learn that in therapy leading up the death-row prisoners clemency hearing, the psychiatrist had set the stage for an inner confrontation between the convicted killers 10 multiple personalities hoping they will be wiped out by the inner battle, especially the truly serial killer, leaving only his true personality.
Thus, each character in the hotel is a manifestation of one of the death-row killer's multiple personalities.
This turns everything you thought you knew right on its head! Look at the list of characters again:
John Cusacks Ed. He works the hardest to help everyone. He is the inner child trying to maintain order.
Rebecca De Mornay looking more like the whining bitch he had as his mother.
Amanda Peets character: Paris Texas. An ex-prostitute fleeing the life of prostitution with lots of saved up money to buy an orange grove in Florida and settle down. i.e. His real mother the way he wished she was.
Larry the Hotel Desk Clerk, he found the owner of the motel dead and stuck him in the freezer. Could that frozen victim have been the true personality of the death row convict? Frozen and unable to control or intervene. Take back his mind].
Distraught newlywed and her husband. Could have been the fractured picture of Death-row convicts real mother and father, before she got ruined and became a prostitute; making her husband a broken man.
Prison worker [Ray Liotta] , really an escaped convict.
Jake Busy, an escaped convict and suspected murderer at the hotel.
The little boy: Timothy York, a mute kid, There was the mother, step-dad and father. She was hurt real bad and could not talk. The step dad did drop big hint early on but it went over my head too. When asked why the boy does not speak, his step dad says that he stopped speaking when something really bad happened to him in the past.
When the John Cusack personality killed the Ray Liotta escaped convict, the psychiatrist and judge thought that the death-row killers serial killer personality was free of the insanity and murder. The death-row convict got a stay of execution and is committed to an asylum. And the Amanda Peet personality goes off to Florida to buy an orange grove.
At last he saved the most likable, in his mind character to kill last.
At her newly purchased home in Florida, Peet is digging in the dirt and finds a hotel room key with the number 1 on it. She slowly looks up, and discovers the little boy from the motel holding a plowing fork. She whispers, "Timmy? and he kills her. And in the real world, the fat bald guy is escaping.
Still Confused? Try this one sent in by brokenrecliner who says... "I wanted to try to explain the Identity spoiler a little better."
Each character in the hotel is one of the killer's (the bald guy) personalities. In order for the judge to rescind the death penalty, the psychiatrist wanted to prove to them that the personality which murdered those people 4 years earlier had been "killed", which is what they explained to Cusack's character when that personality surfaced. This is why at the end, Cusack killed Liotta. So the judge and everyone else thought the serial killer personality was cleansed and the only personality left was Amanda Peet's. However, in the end, we learn that the real serial killer personality was the little boy, and so by killing Amanda Peet, that personality has full control. Make sense?
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The 23-year-old girl is being subjected to trauma of recollecting her horror night and it could have been avoided if the officials had conducted themselves with dignity and commonsense.
On Monday night a metropolitan magistrate recorded her statement under Section 164 of Criminal Procedure Code. The intention of the authorities is understandable, however, they do not seem to respect the girl nor the trauma of a rape victim, which has been well documented.
According to a survivors website (http://www.hopesurvivors.org.uk) "immediate reactions after a rape may vary. Some rape survivors remain controlled, numb, in shock, denial disbelief. They present a flat affect, quiet, reserved, and have difficulties expressing themselves. Other rape survivors respond quite differently - being very expressive and verbalising feelings of sadness or anger. They may appear distraught or anxious and may even express rage or hostility against the medical staff attempting to care for them."
"Various factors may aid or inhibit the survivors ability to resolve the issues associated by the rape. Positive feelings of self-esteem, good support systems, previous success in dealing with crisis and economic security all enhance the ability to heal. Survivors who can minimise, (deal with one small segment of the problem at a time ) often find success. Certainly survivors moved to action gain confidence as they implement decisions. But survivors who suffer with chronic stress, lack of support systems and prior victimisation struggle less successfully to resolve their issues. Negative self-esteem often hinders their progress and paralyse their efforts. These victims often use maladaptive methods to deal with their stress. These factors hamper their ability to resolve the issues of the rape and move beyond it."
"Rape victims can suffer a significant degree of physical and emotional trauma during the rape, immediately following the rape and over a considerable time period after the rape."
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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by LA Sam, Sep 7, 2005.
nice headings
In the final analysis. Both had their NBA careers end prematurally due to suckiness. Although Arroyo was picked up for a stretch last season.
What some people call over-dribbling is simply a whole lot of talent.
Sammy Meija trumps both of these scrubs.
Sammy "plays" for CSKA Moscow with Andrei Kirilenko and Nenad Kristic. Actually, Sammy is a reserve, which means that he doesn't ever get to wear a uniform unless someone gets hurt. Perhaps they are hiding Sammy for the playoffs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBC_CSKA_Moscow
Glyndouskous... or Glynnie on some altrenate universe Acker, Arroyo, Meija and Glynnie could all be starting for the Pistons this year.
your missing the guy that would make us forget about MJ... went to denver for a short spell I think?
Good example of a player that was never coached properly or filmed from the proper angle. He had quick hands.
In the NBA's defense, most team aren't equipped with proper type of camera to adequately capture his speed. You'd need one those cameras that can catch a bullet going through an apple to properly appreciate that guy.
J-Train, you need to stop by the forum more frequently!!!!!!
Thanks, Bad Billy. I wasn't impressed with the lockout, and I was trying to get a handle on the current team. Hence, not around. Frankly, I'm more excited about this team than I have been in a couple of years. Sure, they're a sad-sack bunch right now, but I'm starting to like some of their pieces. It's nice to see a team with a possible future that doesn't include making a bunch of crazy trades. Next years pick, a smart trade or two.... who knows? I think that we could be an exciting team in '13, and one of the "It" teams in '14. A lot depends on us landing in the top three of next year's draft.
Why did we bring back a 7 year old post anyway?
There was a reason, but now I forgot what it was.....perhaps an Alex Acker reference sparked this thread's comeback...
Well - The next time someone goes down in the basement please try to find that bot post about the playoffs, circa 2006-07 or sometime around there..
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I made this heart last week and have only just remembered to take a photo of it. It's for the Meet Me at Mikes window. For more information go here and join in the fun to help raise money for the Mirabel Foundation.
January 31, 2008 in Sewing | Permalink | Comments (17)
Auntie Beth gave Bella this canvas today when we went down for a little visit. Her tiny fingers have been working on it ever since. She began with a sketch in pencil and then patiently painted on each colour until her masterpiece was finally unveiled after dinner tonight.
The paint set is by Junkitz (Laguna Paintz) - such a petite and pretty mix of colours.
On my crafting front I've been oohing and ahhing over some patchwork bath mats at Flickr for several months now. Especially this one - love the colours and the embroidered feet! Last night I decided to whip up a quickie and now I want to make 100 fabric bath mats for the bathroom. This one is a little crooked on the edge and not as perfect as I'd like, but once it's down on the floor all the blemishes are pretty well hidden. The fabric is Amy Butler.
January 30, 2008 in Kids Craft, Sewing | Permalink | Comments (22)
With the girls gone we've been slotting back into a normal routine around here. The house is so super quiet - we miss them already and they've only been gone a day!
This morning we popped down to visit and feed the ducks (as well as the friendly birds that were more than happy to share the bread).
Bella was a little hesitant of the ducks, running to me for cover when they became too demanding for bread - she was nipped on the finger as a toddler by one and hasn't forgotten it.
I've also been meaning to post a photo of my new Amy Butler patterns that were so generously mailed to me last week from a lovely lady at Amy Butler. These are 4 of their new patterns and are so so cool!! When school goes back and I track down some nice fabric to use I'd really love to try and sew the Lotus tunic and cami or the Anna tunic to begin with - I've never sewed clothes before but the patterns look fairly straight forward and I think the tops are seriously cute.
If you're looking for inspiration you really need to check out the Amy Butler website too - beautiful photos, gorgeous fabrics and even some yummy free patterns - quilts, fabric leaves (gorgeous), fabric silhouettes (which would be very cool on my wall), etc.. and the most adorable fabric necklace that I'm dying to sew for Bella.
January 29, 2008 in Family, Happy Mail | Permalink | Comments (11)
Yesterday we hired a van (big enough for the 6 of us) and took the girls to the Salmon Ponds and Mt Field.
The weather was kind to us, perhaps a little too hot for walking up to the top of Russell Falls - Rich, James, Bella and Clare submersed their heads in the creek on our way back down to cool off. We ate a nice picnic lunch (including Kate's chockie slice that I'll post the recipe for tomorrow) in the national park and spotted a few wallabies on our walk. The girls were so tired on the way home - all three of them going to sleep in the van and Bella had 15 hours sleep last night because she was so exhausted from the day.
Tomorrow the girls go home :O((
January 27, 2008 in Family | Permalink | Comments (13)
Today I took the girls (plus my two) up to the top of Mt Wellington. We left early to catch a glimpse of the view before the clouds came over. It was still a little misty but you could pretty much see for miles and miles.
Home for some music playing - Kate plays the violin beautifully.
Then Kate and Bella did a little bit of chocolate slice cooking in the afternoon (yummy!).
January 25, 2008 in Family | Permalink | Comments (10)
Bella wanted to make some pom poms today. These are fun, I can remember making them with my Mum when I was little. I think I was pretty slow at them though.....Bella made both of these in half an hour....much faster than her Mummy was!
Here are the instructions if you'd like to do some with your little ones and aren't sure how. Super easy and a quick craft to fill in the afternoon (or half an hour lol).
Use something to draw out your circle and a smaller circle on the inside. Make them all sorts of sizes (our outer circle measured 9.5cm and the inner one was 4cm). You need to use some cardboard for this (so it doesn't bend too easily when you are winding). You also need to cut out TWO circles from the cardboard.
Cut out the two circles and sit them together.
Start winding wool around the two circles (that you've sat together)...remembering to keep it nice and firm as you wind.
Keep winding all the way around the edge of the pom pom until you can't see any more cardboard.
Cut the wool all the way around the top of the circle.
Lightly seperate the two pieces of cardboard and slide another piece of wool in here. Pull it all the way around the circle and tie it in a very tight knot to hold the pom pom in place.
Once the pom pom is secure, pull off the cardboard circles to reuse for another pom pom.
The pom pom is finished! Use the long end (left over from where you knotted the pom pom) to tie the finished creation on something (Bella tied the pom poms on her school bag).
January 24, 2008 in Kids Craft, Tutorial - Pom poms | Permalink | Comments (13)
Oscar, Bonnie and Kama came up to visit us today - it was great having the cousins altogether. Six big and little kids was serious fun! We headed off to the beach after lunch so everyone could have a swim since the weather was so warm.
Here's a little button wreath tutorial for next Christmas...so cute! I made one and added some wired stars around the outside. Super quick and easy.
January 23, 2008 in 25 days of Christmas craft, Family | Permalink | Comments (15)
Since some of you asked for more tutorials, I thought I'd share some steps for making these easy hairclips.
Cut two lengths of ribbon - 11cm and 7.5cm.
Trim each end of the smallest length on a slight angle (to prevent fraying and also look nice for the bottom of the bow).
Roll up and adhere the longest length to make a circle. I used Ribbon Stiff (by Strano) for my adhesive.
Squish the circle down flat to make the top part of your bow. Position the smaller length of ribbon as shown in the above photo. You may wish to pin these two lengths of ribbon together to hold into place nicely ready for the next step.
Using a needle and thread wrap the cotton around and around the bow pulling it nice and tightly. Knot the cotton off to finish.
Cut a third length of ribbon - 3cm in length.
Fold the length in half.
Roll the small length of ribbon around the bow. Adhere at the back and hold in position with a pin until dry. Alternatively you could hand stitch the ribbon together. I used Ribbon Stiff to hold mine in position.
Now cut a small length of ribbon to hold the hairslide in position on the back of the bow (approx. 1cm). Slip the hairslide onto the ribbon as shown above.
Hand stitch the ribbon/hairslide into position on the back of the bow - ensure you stitch either side of the hairslide to hold it firmly together.
Have fun :O))
January 22, 2008 in Tutorial - hair clips | Permalink | Comments (25)
Wow...so many comments for the giveaway (it took me 13 pages of printing to print them all out!)....Sarah Latham was the lucky winner - Sarah if you could email me your address please that would be great(firstname.lastname@example.com).
I'm sorry that there weren't more prizes for you - I'll try and have another giveaway in Feb.
Thankyou for all the blogging suggestions, there were some great ideas in there. I can't believe the number of people that asked for more children's craft (about 1/3 of the comments). More scrapbooking, cards and recipes. More tutorials/step by steps, sewing ideas and low cost gifts. Lots of people suggested more themed projects (like my 25 days of Christmas craft) too. Many other topics too that I've written down in my diary....wow, all these things should keep me busy blogging for a while...so thankyou :O))
We have my two nieces staying with us at the moment from the mainland - such lovely girls, really really lovely girls. We went to the beach this afternoon when the chill eased a little in the afternoon.
January 21, 2008 in Family, Happy Mail | Permalink | Comments (10)
Yesterday afternoon we went down to the beach to fill in a couple of hours before a barbecue at Mum's house. It was warm but the clouds were becoming darker by the minute while we sat and searched for crabs and other seaside treasures. Our greatest find was a little starfish that was clinging to a rock as the tide went out......I don't think we've come across one of these before at the rocks, usually finding only crabs and sea snails.
Thankyou for all your lovely suggestions for blog posts too - I'll leave the comments open until late tonight incase anybody else would like to be in the draw for the giveaway.
January 20, 2008 in Family | Permalink | Comments (19)
I thought it must be time for another give away to say thankyou for all the visitors and lovely comments that I receive here each day.
Leave me a comment about what I can blog about in 2008 or photos I could include here - I do like to do a 5-10 minute post everyday to record little things but sometimes I run out of things to say!
I'll close off the comments section tomorrow night and draw the winner the following day.
The giveaway includes some funky monkey fabric, my latest Daring Card Makers card (from the post below), a felt house pencil topper, Heidi Grace flower stamp, silver bookplates and a selection of 6X6 Basic Grey Scarlet's Letter paper. I'm happy to post overseas too.
January 19, 2008 in Happy Mail | Permalink | Comments (102)
This week's dare over at the Daring Card Makers Blog is all about 'hide and seek'....go and pop over for a look and join in with the fun if you like!
Today Bella and I went to Big W (I swear we live at this shop) and printed about 100 photos followed by milk shakes and cookies at Gloria Jeans (or Nora Jones as Bella calls it) as Bella's reward for being so patient while we sat in the photo printing chair for nearly an hour. I think we arrived home at about lunch time and then set up the playstation to belt out tunes to Singstar Legends. Bella made a rocket ship using foil, paper and jewels (because we'd been singing 'rocket man').
The boys were at work! James is saving up for a Nintendo Wii and decided to go to work with his Dad for the day to help finance it. They left at 7am this morning and at 3pm I drove into town to pick him up as he'd had enough. He looked exhausted and hasn't moved from the couch all afternoon - he hasn't decided yet if he wants to go back and help another day, lol. Poor little darling.
January 18, 2008 in Card Making | Permalink | Comments (13)
I received a pack of these in the mail from Belles Familles this morning. Bella was nearly jumping through the roof when it came, combined with plenty of 'oooh cuuute, mum why don't we ever make bears and houses out of gingerbread - all we ever do is men'...apparently this little package was much more exciting for her than 25 gingerbread men to decorate! It was really fun, cute and yummy (thanks Sarah!) and came with it's own teeny weeny tubes of pre-made icing (which Bella took great delete in squeezing every last drop that was left into her mouth, while James looked on telling her that she was a gross little thing). The pack also had a pattern included - which I guess was supposed to be used as a guide for decorating - but I'm in the process of making a teeny felt bear family with it.
Well, I'd better get my butt moving...I have family coming for dinner and we've been mucking around all morning not doing much - I need to get a wiggle on with the salads and cooking!
January 17, 2008 in Kids Craft | Permalink | Comments (8)
One of the places we love to go and visit is the local library. Mum used to always take me along when I was little - I'm not sure how many books we were allowed to borrow in those days, perhaps 3 or 4?? At our library every person that has a card can borrow up to 10 books for a 3 week period. James usually selects 3 -5 books (you see he doesn't like his library bag to be too full otherwise it might damage the handles apparently) and Bella tries to load her's FULL with books and sometimes I'm carrying them in my arms as well.
On our second last visit she cottoned on that X3 library cards means that our family can borrow 30 books. I didn't find any on this day and James had 3. That left 27 books for her to check out apparently....in a weak Mummy moment I let her borrow that full 27 books and she thought it was Christmas, pouring over them each night before bed. We won't be borrowing that many again though - she has a strict limit of 10 per visit now - it was way too heavy to carry for starters and we were reading like mad things at night trying to get through them all before they were due back. Bella likes to choose nice long stories usually too (because that means that she can stay up longer), so we really had a mammoth marathon to read them all in time. What I love about hiring books from the library is that it teaches them both responsibility about borrowing and looking after something that doesn't belong to them. They each have a library bag (that their Nanny Marion stitched for them) and we have a rule that as they read a book it goes straight back in the library bag. The bag has to live standing up behind their door so that they always know where it is and they both know that have to read the books in a *safe* area away from drinks or food.
Anyhow, I think it must be time for bed........
January 14, 2008 in Family | Permalink | Comments (20)
When Bella had her sleep over at Mum's the other night, one of the things on her list to do there (yep, she had a list) was 'learn to knit'. She has attempted this a few times over the years, having a go at it with both Nannies...but always so easily distracted and I guess not quite ready for knitting.
I got a phonecall from Bella while she was at Nan's house to tell me that she could knit properly now. You could hear the excitement in her little voice over the phone - six rows she had completed - apparently a new scarf for her doll or monkey (she hasn't decided yet).
Today she knitted a few more rows - we keep it to a maximum of two rows at a time, otherwise her little mind can wander off the job and I'm not capable of fixing anything too severe on the knitting front.
I love that she can learn new things and do craft with each Nan. I have fond memories of learning to knit and crochet at my Grandmother's house when I was little - Mum, Grandma and myself sitting around knitting, I could never work out how they could knit SO fast though!
After some knitting this morning, Bella and I did a bit of scrapbooking together. James was at a friend's house, Rich was dirt bike riding, so it was just us two.
There are two other things I want to share in today's post - a little felt heart that Bella made especially for James to hang in his bedroom. She wanted to make this for him the other day so he knows that she loves him. Yesterday James came out of his room and said to me - 'Mum, poor Bella has just come in with a very sad face, her lip dropped and she said to me - James, I think you love your new nintendo DS more than you love me...are you ever going to play with me again?' He gave her a cuddle and reassured her that he could never love the nintendo DS more than her. Poor little darling must be feeling the effects of his new birthday toy.
The other photo is James' stained glass fish. Bella gave him this as a gift from their school shopping day. When he opened it at Christmas he thanked her and giggled a little - giving us a little smile and eye movement that said 'I think I'm way too big for this, but I'll just play along to keep her happy'......anyhow, he really enjoyed making the fish after all and I thought it was a really neat craft to do. Over the last six months I've noticed that James doesn't always want to join in now with every craft we do - which is fine - but it saddens me a little on the other hand to think that he is growing up :o(
January 13, 2008 in Kids Craft | Permalink | Comments (15)
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Based on my research that the mandolorian's are more of a culture than a sentien being of a spesific kind. And they adopt new members based on skill, potential and talent.
So I mean to built the first ever(to my knoleage) Tusken-mando. HA!
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Winch Purchase for a JKUR 10 Anniversary Stock Bumper
Does anyone know which winch will fit the factory bumper? I would like this to be my first mod, but not sure which will fit? Also wondering if anything else will be required, like mounting bracket, or upgrade to the factory battery? Also this will be my first winch purchase and wondering ifI should be going with synthetic or not? Most likely looking at Warn, like the Zeon 8000-s or the 9.5cti, but not sure?
Just took delivery of 10th anniversary two door. Went to dealer service department to see about getting winch installed (similar to one shown on Jeep website). Was told that in order to mount a winch, the bumper would have to be replaced. Jeep is aware of the fact that a winch cannot be mounted on the 10th anniversary bumper and is working on a fix. Anyone else have different info on mounting winch on factory bumber?
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure you just have to buy the winch mount kit for the bumper. It's like $250-$200 I think. I'll ask parts if I can remember tomorrow. The bumper is based off the MW3 & MOAB bumper & to mount a winch on those bumpers you just need the winch mount kit from Mopar. It's what they call a "winch capable" bumper, meaning if somethign is added to it, it's then capable of holding a winch. Where as a "winch ready" bumper is ready out of the box w/o additional pieces. I think your service dept. doesn't know what they are talking about & instead of asking someone to check they just want to sound all knowing. I hate those kind of people at dealerships, they give us a bad rap & I take my pride in working on my jeeps that I love.
I believe the issue was the winch mount kit from Mopar doesn't exist for the 10th Anniversary bumper.
Okay I have done a bit of research, and yes the bumper is winch capable, however needs a mounting plate. You can either have someone custom fit a mounting plate or wait for a production one to be made. Their is at least one company making these right now and I expect several other will be doing this in the future as well.
Originally Posted by JKUR10A Does anyone know what the cost of this set up is? I would be looking at the bar, lights and winch mount.
I sent Maximus an e-mail about pricing and availibility. Here's what they said: Hi Caveman, I'm following up on your inquiry about our 10th Anniversary Rubicon Bumper Module (Bar/Hoop, Aux. Light Brackets, Winch Mount, EX10000 Maximus Winch).
Here are the key product features:
1- 2.5 Inch steel tubing hoop/bar with welded attachment flange and reinforcement/stiffening brace brackets.
2- Auxiliary light brackets with 1/2 Inch light fixture holes.
3- Winch Mount: 1/4 Inch steel plate, centered and off-set winch attachment points provided, compatible with multiple winch bodies and brands. The plate mounts to chassis frame with two 12mm grade 8 bolts in the back and two existing 12mm factory bolts in the front.
4- 5mm steel fairlead centering plate for centered winch position (optional)
5- EX10000 Maximus winch with synthetic cable. The winch mounts in centered position and does not require vacuum pump relocation.
6- Vacuum Pump Relocation Bracket (optional for off-set winch position and other winch brands). The bracket bolts on to the winch plate with two 6mm bolts.
7- All components are painted in textured black powder coated.
8- Bolt on installation utilizing existing factory attachment points (no drilling or cutting required).
Introductory Prices:
1- Hoop & Auxiliary Light Brackets: $299.99
2- Winch Mount (without fairlead centering plate): $129.99
3- Winch Mount & Fairlead Centering Plate: $159.99
4- Fairlead Centering Plate (optional for centered winch position): $34.99
5- EX10000 Maximus Winch with Synthetic cable & Hawse Fairlead: $794.99
6- Complete Package with EX10000 Maximus winch: $1254.99
7- Vacuum Pump Relocation Bracket (optional for other winch brands): $29.99
The product will be in stock some time next week. At this point we are only taking order list/queue for those who want to get the first production lot. Regards, Joe Maximus-3 Sales MAXIMUS-3 2295 N. Opdyke Rd, Suite E Auburn Hills, MI 48326 P: (248)-821-6654 E: email@example.com That is (obviously) a direct quote from the e-mail that they sent me.
First, NO ONE (corporate) makes a winch plate/winch mount kit for the 10th ann JRUB. I have been in contact with every company in the US/AUS.
Even the Mopar version is not available, even though a part number exists. The problem is similar to last years's MW3 jeep-bumper.
Drop me a not if you want more data, but the only play right now is having a custom built plate/mount kit and you are 100% right on the offset. It's subtle, but it's there.
I think I will get the name right....but where did u get the red aluminum fairlead on your bumper?
So, if I get that setup for a regular 2012 JKU (Not the 10A), do you think the winch will hold, if used in a recovery situation? Is it strong enough?
Maximus is installing my winch plate, winch and grill guard (hoop) this morning. They offered to install the whole setup for free if I let them take some marketing photos for thier website. :thumb:
Hey JKR10A......how about a little credit when you copy and paste my post like that. At least delete my name from the stolen text before you claim it as your own. :banghead:
LOL, hey Caveman I'm don't know how I even did that. I was moving your post over to this thread for others to see. Damn copy right laws!
I could not find any info on the winch itself. What is it rated?
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I just got back from having that same setup installed and I couldn't be happier. The winch Maximus installed for me even included the red synthetic winch line. That setup is heavy duty! I helped them install the whole thing. It even included a wireless remote in addition to the wired one. The only thing that blew my mind a little was having to cut the opening in the bumper bigger to center the hause fairlead. Jeep designed the opening (way) off center. the kit included a fairlead centering plate, so it's all good. here are some pics. :thumb:
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The winch is made by Moto Alliance and rebadged Maximus. it's rated at 10K for the first layer of line on the spool. we tested it out and the line speed is decent. it came with a 2 year warrenty and, supposedly, it's made in the U.S.A. although I couldn't find any proof of that.
Here is a link to the manufacturers web page. the 10K model isn't listed for sale, but there is a spec sheet.
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Does The Winch Plate Attatch To The Jeep Frame With Only Those Two Bottom Bolts Or Is There Another Plate thats Missing In Picture.
There are two more attatchment points in the front using the same bolts as the bumper. these are attatched to the frame as well. I found the whole assembly to be very sturdy and secure.The winch plate itself was 1/4 inch thick (thicker than the frame tubing) steel plate welded and bent for strength. They tested the prototype with a load cell in place to ensure the security and robustness of the attatchment points. I questioned it as well while we were installing it. It's a small design firm near my house that designed and installed my winch plate and winch. The engineer that designed the whole set up installed it for me. :D
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Pics are awesome...ordered winch plate w/ centering bracket last week from Maximus .... Hope to receive next week so I can install xenon 10k syn before Colorado trip in July
Does anyone know if the Maximus winch plate will work with Warn winches? I am thinking of getting the zeon 10S or the 8S. Also I predict that the 8s will be good to winch out myself and other fellow jeepers, but do I need a 10s to help larger rigs on a single line pull?
Warn zeon 10 k installed on Maximus winch plate
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Attachment 264992 very happy with warn zeon 10 k installed with help from bro and sons
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