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my toilet install, 90 year old home
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if you like this project, you might like some of my others:
my shower project, denshield backerboard, tiled walls
my toilet install, 90 year old home
my floor refurbish project
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hi peoples...
still renovating my 2nd floor bathroom.. it used to be a kitchen if you can believe it!
now i document my toilet fiasco. not the most glamorous job, but someone has to do it!
this should have been a quick job.. but those that are renovating an OLD house know.. nothing goes easy.:wink:
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before i get going, i just want to give props to the good people at http://www.askmehelpdesk.com
their troubleshooting skills really helped me.
first.. i go to install the flange 12" from wall to center of drain flange. maybe 12.5" to give myself some room behind the toilet..
but i realize there is a floor joist there..
unfortunately i did not know at the time about "offset flange". so i figured... well, i'll just go closer to the wall and maybe cut a bit into the joist if need be..
so i cut a hole in the floor and install the flange.
the flange is screwed in place using stainless steel wood screws. i am using two markers to the left/right of flange to indicate to me where the brass closet bolts are. that way, when i have the bowl between my legs and am guiding it down into place i have at least some clue where the alignment pins are.
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course that was the theory..
in reality, i could see the alignment tools pionting where the closet bolts should be.. but i couldn't see the hole on the toilet where the bolts go.
so that was pointless..
in the end, i just lined up one side, slipped the bowl down lower on the right side until it was over the bolt, then slowly lowered the left side until the bolt JUST went through the hole.
then i lowered the bowl straight down.
so this is a good reason NOT to cut your bolts to length until after your bowl is set..
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its a bit of a long story.. but i found out that the commercial toilet i WAS going to install (because it had no tank and could fit in this tight location) required 1" diameter water pipe.. my entire house is on 1/2" copper so this didn't work.
most other toilets were too long and wouldn't fit and the 10" on center toilets were too expensive.
so i decided to remove some drywall and lath/plaster to give myself the extra space i needed.
i put up some beadboard on the studs .. so the toilet will sit in a recessed cove..
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its a bit rough now.. but it will look better in time. i will fill all the voids.. beadboard down to this cove, add some trim pieces. paint.. etc..
i made sure that the toilet, when placed in this recessed wall area, would have enough height to remove the lid.
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now i am ready to install toilet.
i flipped over the bowl and pressed the wax ring + horn onto the bowl.
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but when i pressed it down, rocked it forward/backward and sat on it.. it just didn't sit right.
then, i noticed a HUGE gap at the back!!
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for whatever reason, the bowl and this wax ring were not getting along.
so i goto HD and ask for a "thin" wax ring with no horn.
... try again..
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it goes on much better... but i found a "gotcha" :eek:
the water shut-off valve needs to have its handle screwed on ( i removed it so i could put the beadboard on easy).
but now that the toilet is near by, i see there is no room to get the screwdriver in there!!
now i wish i made the extra effort to put the valve in perfectly aligned, rather than tilted to one side.. so i put just the drill bit in my hand, and finger tightened it..
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the hole i cut to put the beadboard on was not a nice small circle because of some other problem i had with my particular situation.
i'll just have to correct this later.. :(
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at this point, i decide to put a couple plastic toilet shims where there is a small gap. the gap is because this board is slightly lower then its neighbour. i don't know why this is so, but i will be sure to reinforce this board and all others from underneath tomorrow..
i check with a level to make sure the bowl is well.. level.
next it is time to put on the plastic base.. then the metal washer and then screw the brass closet bolt tight.
i hand tighten as much as it will go
then carefully with a wrench i start to tighten the nut. one rotation, then switch to other nut. and back and forth so the tightening is even.
when done, it is tight, bowl doesn't move, but i did not have to crank it .. as you don't want to crack the porcelain.
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i put a bit of silicon under the toilet cause of the small gap. but i do not fill it in all the way around, because if there is a leak in the future i want to know about it!!
now i cut the closet bolt to length using a hacksaw.
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when the bolts are cut it is time to put the plastic cap on.
i fill it will plumbers puddy.. not sure why, but this is the instructions i read on the net over at hammerzone.com
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make sure to read your instructions.. i found that the drain hose was supposed to be inserted into this other pipe thing. i probably wouldn't have noticed this unless i read the instructions..
now for the test run... the first flush
my wife is downstairs looking for leaks and i am right near the toilet looking at all the connections, the water level, the quality of the flush, leaks.. etc.
wish me luck!!!
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no leaks!!
its almost done now..
just have to work on fixing the wall... adding a toilet paper dispenser...
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Daniel Gruneberg Of Zozi On Enabling Active Lifestyles
PSFK talks to the co-founder of a San-Francisco based service that allows members to come together to engage in outdoor experiences.
zozi is a San-Francisco based service that allows users interested in living active lifestyles to come together to purchase outdoor experiences. With zozi consumers get up to 80% off these experiences via group buying – which is when people come together to bulk purchase services or goods to obtain a great deal.
Watch a video explains of the service:
Co-founder Daniel Gruneberg shares his thoughts with us below:
What is your insight on how people are being guided by social services to lead more active/healthier lives?
People are guided in large part by marketing and media from those companies. At this point, you can't read a paper, magazine, blog, tweet, or anything else, without a someone encouraging sustainability, community, and being healthy and active. Facebook and Twitter play a big role here as the information sharing is off the charts. The being active part is where zozi comes in, given we curate the best experiences locally and abroad, and bring it to consumers at up to 80% off.
What other social influences do you see driving this trend?
I think it's a couple of things. First, the web is now a very social place, and those who have really incredible experiences are easily able to share it with hundreds, thousands, and even millions of people. It can be inspiring and drive action. Second, a byproduct of our social web is publicly available data, which leads to corporations, startups, governments and others publishing content about their their company's efforts, which keeps them honest and motivated to make a positive impact. zozi is no exception, we donate 10% of our profits to local communities where we send consumers to help with food, clothing, and other initiatives like charity: water.
Are there any particular categories of activities you've observed generating a lot of interest?
Well, there are certainly a few activities that people are loving: sailing excursions, biking trips, diving, kayaking under the stars, and rafting, which fit into the categories of cultural, sustainable, and adventure. Close runners up including food tours, wine tours by bicycle, and yoga retreats — all of which are on www.zozi.com.
Thanks Daniel!

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The Jewel shined
Sail Date: February 28, 2016
Reviewed: 1 year ago
Traveled As: Large Group
Room Type: Inside
This was our first complete transit of the Panama Canal. It was a great experience and I would highly recommend it. Now on to the ship.
Embarkation in Los Angeles was confusing and completely disorganized. But we made it on board just fine.
We had an inside cabin on Deck 9, cabin 9619. The cabin was in good shape and in good working order. Our cabin attendant wasn't the fastest, but he was thorough and took good care of us. Deck 9 on this ship is a good location. Only three decks up to the gym and lido and two down to deck 7. We did not need to use the elevators the entire trip.
We found the food to be very good this trip. We ate in the Azure dining room. Food was good, service was top notch.
Morning were here spent in the Great outdoors. It was pretty decent buffet food. The buffet coffee was pretty good on this ship.
Specialty dining:
Le Bistro: The food was good, service was ok.
Cagneys Steakhouse: Food was fantastic, service was different. if you orders soup and a salad, they brought them at the same time. Then there was a long gap until you got your entree.
La Cucina: really good food and service.
Moderno Brazilian: This was our favorite. Excellent food and service was fantastic. My opinion is this is well worth the flat fee.
The ship was in very good shape over all and the staff were friendly and warm.
There was a nice variety of entertainment on board. The main theater had the regular magicians, jugglers and the like. The troop on board were very good. Oh what a night performed they were very good. There were some good and not so good acts in the lounges.
Debarkation in Miami was well organized and very easy.
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|Embarkation and Disembarkation
|See above.
|Ship Quality
|I enjoy the design of the jewel class ships, easy to navigate.
|Destinations and Excursions
|Onboard Activities
|I found there to be a mix of great to not good. But I also understand this can be subjective.
|Service and Staff
|Azure Dining room, Mr. Srdan was a fantastic waiter.
|Food and Dining
|We tried most of the specialty restaurants. With that said I would have been happy just in the main dining room.
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|Miami, Florida
|Cartagena, Colombia
|We did the old fortress and walled city. It was cool to see. We hired a tour on the dock.
|Panama Canal Transit
|Stay out in the open decks and move around. There are things to see on both sides of the ship.
|Puntarenas, Costa Rica
|Nice place, we hired a tour on the dock.
|Puerto Corinto, Nicaragua
|Puerto Quetzal, Guatemala
|We took the ships excursion to Antigua. Beautiful old town. If you have trouble getting around be careful. The streets are all cobblestones. The footing is pretty uneven.
|Acapulco, Mexico
|We hired a driver on the dock. Went and saw the cliff divers and then a city tour.
|Cabo San Lucas, Mexico
|San Pedro (Los Angeles), California
The great outdoors is a buffet aft. Most people do not know it is there for a couple of days.
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This module is a pure-Ruby implementation of an asynchronous multiplexed IO Reactor which is based on the Reactor design pattern found in Pattern-Oriented Software Architecture, Volume 2: Patterns for Concurrent and Networked Objects. It allows a single thread to demultiplex and dispatch events from one or more IO objects to the appropriate handler.
It's similar to EventMachine, but predates it by several years.


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Boeing Combats Surveillance Attempts With Self-Destructing Phone
Boeing has filed papers with the FCC for a new phone to be sold exclusively to government agencies and defense companies.
Following the NSA spying scandal, it seems apropos that Boeing has filed papers with the FCC for a phone that will destroy all its data should anyone attempt to tamper with it.
The so-called Boeing Black Phone is not made for regular consumers, but for 'government agencies and companies engaged in contractual activities with those agencies that are related to defense and homeland security' according to the papers.
Two years ago, papers were leaked that revealed Boeing was working on an Android phone and now it is becoming slightly clearer why. Interestingly, we will never know what the hardware, software or other mechanisms do because Boeing is claiming their are trade secrets that are vital to national security.
Here is what we do know – there is no tampering with the Boeing Black phone:
There are no serviceable parts on Boeing's Black phone and any attempted servicing or replacing of parts would destroy the product. The Boeing Black phone is manufactured as a sealed device both with epoxy around the casing and with screws, the heads of which are covered with tamper proof covering to identify attempted disassembly. Any attempt to break open the casing of the device would trigger functions that would delete the data and software contained within the device and make the device inoperable.
Source: Quartz
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The vote cancelled the council's January decision to send the plant's fate to a general obligation bond election in June.
At the Jan. 27 meeting the council was presented with a price tag of $1.7 million for the project. Previously they had said that they believed it to be financially feasible if it would cost $1.25 million or less.
Mayor Don Landes said Thursday that he hated to take something to an election that didn't make sense financially. There is currently a large segment of Parowan's population that would like to sell the city's whole power system and hook up to Rocky Mountain Power, he added.
"This thing has got to make some sense before we take it to the community," he said.
Von Mellor, electrical department director, said the Center Creek Hydro Plant is a lot of risk for not much energy.
"Financially I just don't think it's feasible," he said.
Landes asked Mellor if he had written a letter to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission explaining that the city would be having a general obligation bond election.
Mellor said he had not yet, because the city had been so back and forth on the issue. The council voted to decommission the plant in January 2010, but decided in July to try to stop that decommissioning while options were explored.
"We're up against the wall and we need to make a decision one way or another," Landes said.
Councilor Diane Lister asked if decommissioning the plant would cause the penstock to be removed, because she didn't want to do anything that could hurt the agricultural community. Landes said he did not know what would happen to the penstock if the plant were decommissioned.
Councilor Dennis Gaede said it was a tough decision for him, as he did not want to see the plant go, but he was absolutely against any cost increases for residents and did not want to add to the city's debt.
Bob Angello, of the power board, said when the plant was built about 50 years ago it gave the city a small degree of energy independence and was a facility the community could be proud of. Whatever was decided for the plant's future, he said, the city could take a lot of pride in its history.
Councilor Troy Houston made a motion to sell or decommission the plant, and, if possible upon its decommissioning, to turn it into a museum.
Landes said there are companies that have expressed interest in purchasing the plant.
Lister seconded Houston's motion, and after some thought, Gaede also voted for the motion.
Councilor Steve Decker voted against the motion, desiring to send the project to a general obligation bond election. He said he felt an election was the most responsible thing to do, and while perhaps in the short term the council made the best financial decision, he wasn't sure if it would be the best decision in the long run.
"I think this would be wise debt if there is such a thing," Decker said.
Councilor Mary Halterman was absent from the meeting.
The council also discussed recent frustrations from residents who have septic tanks but still pay a monthly sewer fee because the sewer system runs past their house.
City Attorney Justin Wayment said in researching the problem he discovered that Parowan's statute is actually more lenient than the state code, which requires residents to connect if there is a sewer line available. Parowan only requires them to connect when their septic system fails.
He said Parowan is in violation by being more lenient that the state code, and most cities have taken the position that residents have 60 days to hook up once sewer is available to them.
"I think 60 days is insane as far as a timeframe," Decker said, pointing out that many Parowan residents are on fixed incomes and connecting to the sewer system will cost thousands of dollars per home.
Landes agreed that it was a difficult situation.
"We're going to have some people that this is going to be a real hardship on," he said.
Decker suggested giving people five years or three years to save up and waiving the fee in the meantime. He acknowledged that the state could come in and force people to hook up sooner than the three or five years. City Manager Shayne Scott pointed out that waiving the fee would seriously affect the budget, and could possibly go against the city's bond requirements.
The issue is expected to be discussed further at the Feb. 24 council meeting.


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OAR 734-058-0010 through 734-058-0080 establish criteria for issuing permits for pedestrian activities, as defined in division 58 rules, on state highway right of way.
Stat. Auth.: ORS 184.616, 184.619 & 814.070
Stats. Implemented: ORS 814.070
Hist.: HWD 8-2008, f. & cert. ef. 8-26-08
As used in OAR 734-058-0010 through 734-058-0080, the following definitions apply:
(1) "Applicant" means the individual or individuals, corporation, company, firm, business, partnership, organization or agency named in and signing the Permit and to whom the Permit is issued.
(2) "Department" means the Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT).
(3) "DM" means the ODOT District Manager or designee. DMs are responsible for highway maintenance, operations and issuing permits for use of Right of Way for all State highways within a specific geographic area or "District."
(4) "General Provisions" means those provisions attached and made part of an issued Permit, which are generally applicable to all Permits. General Provisions are superior to any Standard or Special Provisions in a Permit if there is a conflict between them.
(5) "MUTCD" means Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices for Streets and Highways.
(6) "Oregon Temporary Traffic Control Handbook" means a guide for traffic control operations of three days or less based upon the MUTCD.
(7) "Pedestrian Activity" or "Activity" means any planned activity that brings together a community or group of people for an expressed purpose, including soliciting contributions, business, or interest from motorists using the highway provided the activity does not impede traffic or cause a traffic hazard.
(8) "Permit" means the application as a fully executed form signed, issued and controlled by the DM on behalf of the State of Oregon, Department of Transportation, and allowing Applicant to conduct a Pedestrian Activity and all provisions and exhibits attached to the Permit as deemed necessary by the DM. A Permit does not convey any land right or easement.
(9) "Right of Way" means the entire width of real property delineated by property lines along each side of the highway, including the paved surface, shoulders, ditches and other drainage facilities, and all other highway facilities or lands within the boundaries of the right of way lines used for the operation of the highway.
(10) "Special Provisions" means those specific provisions under the heading "Special Provisions" which when attached to are made part of, and are unique to, the Permit. Special Provisions are subordinate to General Provisions and superior to Standard Provisions, if they are in conflict.
(11) "Standard Provisions" means provisions with standard wording under the heading "Standard Provisions" which are attached to and made part of the Permit. Standard Provisions are subordinate to General Provisions and Special Provisions if they are in conflict.
Stat. Auth.: ORS 184.616, 184.619 & 814.070
Stats. Implemented: ORS 814.070
Hist.: HWD 8-2008, f. & cert. ef. 8-26-08
Requirements for Permit Application and Issuance
(1) The DM may grant permission for a Pedestrian Activity on a state highway by way of a Permit issued under the authority of Division 58 rules. A Permit is not necessary for pedestrians meeting the requirements for proper positioning and proper proceeding along a highway under ORS 814.070(1).
(2) Application for a Permit must be made at least 30 days but not more than 180 days prior to the planned activity date. Only one Permit will be issued for any particular location and date. If more than one application is received for a particular location and date, the successful Applicant will be selected based on the date of the first complete application received. Permits may be issued for up to three (3) consecutive calendar days.
(3) To obtain a Permit the Applicant shall:
(a) Apply in writing to the DM that has authority over the location where the Pedestrian Activity is proposed to be held. The application shall be made on an Application and Permit for Pedestrian Activities on a State Highway, Form 734-2708;
(b) Obtain and submit with the application written confirmation from the city, when the state highway is within the city limits, that the Pedestrian Activity does not violate city ordinances; and
(c) Provide a description of the Pedestrian Activity stating all information pertinent to an understanding of the activity and as may be requested by the DM, including a drawing showing the roadways on which the activity will be held.
(4) The Pedestrian Activity shall only be conducted during day light hours, when no adverse road conditions such as snow or ice exist, when there is no roadway construction, and the location is where traffic would otherwise stop as a result of an established official traffic control device such as a traffic signal or stop sign.
(5) The DM may use information provided by the Applicant as well as other information, such as traffic data and accident history, available to the DM when determining whether the Applicant has met the following requirements, and will only issue a Permit when it has been determined that:
(a) The location selected by the Applicant to conduct the activity will be reasonable and will avoid adverse impacts to traffic safety and the operation and maintenance of the highway; and
(b) The location selected by the Applicant will provide for a safe and unimpaired use of the highway, taking into consideration sight distance and roadway geometry.
(6) The DM may deny issuing a Permit:
(a) When the Applicant has failed to comply with Permit provisions on previous Permits;
(b) If the Applicant has conducted activities on state highway Right of Way without a Permit;
(c) When it is in the best interest of the public for protection of the highway and the traveling public;
(d) When the Applicant is not in compliance with ORS 814.070 or division 58 rules; or
(e) When the application is deemed by the DM to be incomplete.
(7) Permit provisions may be written by the Department and included with the Permit. Permit provisions may include General, Standard, and Special Provisions. Once received, should there be any questions about these provisions, Applicant shall, prior to beginning activity, contact the DM in writing and attempt to reach resolution of its questions. After 30-days of issuance of the Permit or upon commencement of the activity, whichever occurs first, the Permit provisions are deemed accepted by Applicant.
(8) An application is not a Permit until a copy of it, approved and signed by the DM, is furnished to the Applicant. No activities are to occur on highway Right of Way until the Applicant has obtained a valid Permit. The approved Permit must be physically present at the activity site when the activity is being performed. The Permit shall be available to the DM or law enforcement personnel upon request.
Stat. Auth.: ORS 184.616, 184.619 & 814.070
Stats. Implemented: ORS 814.070
Hist.: HWD 8-2008, f. & cert. ef. 8-26-08
Effective Period and Cancellation of Permit
(1) The Permit will be in effect for the period of time provided in the Permit. Permits are not transferable and may be cancelled by mutual consent of the parties. The Department may revoke a Permit for non-compliance with the terms of the Permit.
(2) The Permit will be voided and all privileges there under forfeited if the Applicant fails to commence the activity covered by the Permit within the period specified in the Permit, unless a written extension of time is obtained from the DM.
(3) The DM may cancel a Permit for cause, including, but not limited to, weather conditions, safety considerations, in emergencies (i.e., fire, accidents), failure of the Applicant to comply with the terms of the Permit, or operation of law. Cancellation may be issued in writing, or be verbal followed by written confirmation of the verbal cancellation.
(4) A revoked Permit within the previous three (3) years or repeated failure to comply with the terms of the Permit may result in the Applicant's forfeiture of privilege to apply for and to receive a Permit for Pedestrian Activity.
Stat. Auth.: ORS 184.616, 184.619 & 814.070
Stats. Implemented: ORS 814.070
Hist.: HWD 8-2008, f. & cert. ef. 8-26-08
Liability and Control
(1) An Applicant shall be responsible and liable for all damage or injury to any person or property resulting from the Pedestrian Activity for which the Permit is issued. The Applicant shall indemnify and hold harmless the State of Oregon, the Oregon Transportation Commission, the Department, its officers, agents and employees against any and all damages, claims, demands, actions, causes of action, costs and expenses of any nature which they or any of them may sustain by reasons of the acts, conduct, or operation of Applicant, its agents, employees, or other individuals conducting Pedestrian Activities under the Permit.
(2) During any permitted activity, the activity area shall be protected in accordance with the MUTCD, and any safety and operations standards as amended or supplemented by the Oregon Transportation Commission in force at the time the Permit is issued. Traffic control devices in place continuously for three days or less at the same location must comply with the "Oregon Temporary Traffic Control Handbook" in force at the time the Permit is issued.
(3) While performing activities under the Permit, the Applicant shall wear, on the outside of all other garments, a safety vest meeting ANSI/ISEA High Visibility Safety Apparel Guidelines, or equivalent revisions, and labeled as ANSI 107-1999 or later for standard performance for class two risk exposure.
(4) The Applicant shall be bound by all applicable laws and rules of any government entity.
(5) The Applicant shall be responsible and liable for:
(a) Investigating presence or absence of any legally protected or regulated environmental, historical, or archeological resource(s) in the activity area;
(b) Determining and complying with any and all restrictions or requirements related to the proposed activities, including but not limited to those relating to hazardous material(s), water quality constraints, wetlands, archeological or historic resource(s), state and federal threatened or endangered species, etc.;
(c) Complying with all federal, state, and local laws, and obtaining all required and necessary permits and approvals. If the Applicant impacts a legally protected/regulated resource, the Applicant shall be responsible for all costs associated with such impact, including, but not limited to all costs of mitigation and rehabilitation, and shall indemnify, defend, and hold harmless the State of Oregon, the Oregon Transportation Commission, the Department and its officers, agents, and employees against all damages, claims, demands, or actions of any nature arising out of the activities of the Applicant, its officers, contractors, subcontractors, agents, employees, or other individuals conducting Pedestrian Activities under the Permit.
(6) The Department or its employees shall not be responsible or liable for injury, damage, or loss sustained by the Applicant, its participants or the activity covered by the Permit as a result of Department maintenance and construction operations or resulting from motorist or road user operations, or Department contractor or other permitted operations, except injury or damage caused by the negligence of the Department or its employees.
(7) If highway facilities are damaged by the Applicant, the Applicant shall replace or restore the highway facilities to a condition satisfactory to the DM, whether discovered at the time of the activity or at a later date. The DM may require the Applicant to replace or restore the highway facilities to a condition satisfactory to the DM, or the DM may replace or restore the highway facilities by contractor or state forces and assess the costs incurred to the Applicant.
(8) No Permit will allow, or be interpreted as allowing vehicles to be parked, stopped or left standing, upon the state highway Right of Way in a manner that creates a hazard to motor vehicle traffic or interferes with the regular maintenance or operation of the roadway. Applicant shall move any of its vehicles if directed to do so by the Department or law enforcement personnel.
(9) Unless specifically authorized by a Permit, Applicant shall not place items including flags, banners, or pennants, other than official traffic control devices allowed in division 58 rules, on or over the highway. Unauthorized items shall be removed at the direction of the Department or law enforcement personnel.
(10) Any review, supervision or control exercised by Department personnel shall in no way relieve the Applicant of any duty or responsibility to the general public nor shall such review, supervision or control relieve the Applicant from any liability for loss, damage or injury to persons or property as provided in the Permit or OAR chapter 734, division 58.
Stat. Auth.: ORS 184.616, 184.619 & 814.070
Stats. Implemented: ORS 814.070
Hist.: HWD 8-2008, f. & cert. ef. 8-26-08
The Applicant shall obtain and carry liability and property damage insurance policy or policies providing coverage against claims, demands, suits or actions for property damage, personal injury, or death resulting from any activities of Applicant, its officers, employees, agents or contractors in connection with the activity being conducted as authorized by the Permit. In addition, Applicant shall include as additional insured the State of Oregon, the Commission, the Department, and members thereof, its officers, agents and employees. The Applicant shall provide proof of coverage of a combined single limit of $1,000,000. The insurance policy or policies shall be with an insurance company duly authorized and licensed to do business in the State of Oregon. There shall be no cancellation, material change, potential exhaustion of aggregate limits, or non-renewal of insurance coverage without thirty (30) days written notice from the Applicant or its insurer to the Department. When the Applicant is a public body, self- insurance may be provided in lieu of liability and property damage insurance policy or policies. A copy of the certificate of insurance or self-insurance shall be submitted to and approved by the Department of Transportation, Maintenance and Operations Branch, 455 Airport Road SE, Building K, Salem OR 97301 before any activity is commenced under the Permit.
Stat. Auth.: ORS 184.616, 184.619 & 814.070
Stats. Implemented: ORS 814.070
Hist.: HWD 8-2008, f. & cert. ef. 8-26-08
Activity Details
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I am looking for a Elk gun and have been told by several people that I should look to the 300 Mag for Elk in Oregon.
What exactly is the difference between the 300 Win Mag and the 300 Ultra Mag??
Any input would be greatly appreciated
300 Win Mag or 300 Ultra Mag??
I am looking for a Elk gun and have been told by several people that I should look to the 300 Mag for Elk in Oregon.
I assume that the people that advocate the
If your in the Fargo area email me at firstname.lastname@example.com if your interested in trying out the .300 Rem. Ultra Mag.
I think I'd get a good muzzle break installed if I were to shoot a 300 mag. It amazes me people are so facinated with an extra 200-300fps, it's almost like 2800 fps cant kill anything
wolfden, if I remember correctly the 300 Ultra is a 409 Jefferys necked down to a 30. I own a 300 Win. Mag. but I do not own a 300 Ultra. IMO there is really no need to own a 300 Ultra other than it would just be a reason to have another gun. We all know one more gun is always good. ;)!!! I have shot a 300 Ultra and all I can say is put a muzzle break on it!! The one I fired kicked like a freaking mule without one. I would go with the 300 Win. Mag. Its plenty of rifle for elk and your shoulder will be happy you did!!
The .300 ultra is a fine cartridge but too much for most people to shoot well. Like so many of the souped up .30 crowd.
The rest of the .300's are so close that theoretical advantages aside, flip a coin, then ignore the flip and get the one in whatever rifle fits best for you.
As 3X says, use whatever you can shoot accurately - an extra 2-3 hundred FPS won't make any difference at whatever ranges you can hit an elk anyway. At the end of the day it's hard to beat the 100 year old 06!
And practise, practise, practise - whatever you choose.
I would consider the 300 Win Short Mag, you can get nearly the same performance without the recoil. This caliber shoots flat with the power to take down an elk at long range.
as bobkat mentions--hard to beat the old reliable .30-06 especially since good used guns can be found at a reasonable price. With a good quality bullet penetration shouldnt be a problem at reasonable ranges.
I shot a 300 Ultra a few years ago. It kicks, but not as bad as I thought. It has an awesome tragectory. I have had a thing for the 30-378 Weatherby in a Sako TRG-S. I found on the other day. My shoulder might go on strike after a few rounds, but I'll reason with it. Plus I want to hear an elk scream from 500 yards away.
Auggie1415, aren't you a female?? If so...will you marry me?!?! If not PLEASE disreguard my offer. lol!! ;)!! The TRG is an awesome weapon. I didn't know that they offered it in a 30-378....Hey check this out!! http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek069.html
been think on gettin a scendero in 300 ultra or just to bite the bullet and get a Ruger #1 in 300 win mag... im still ready with 300 win mag brass/ammo/dies,ect from the last one i had... got rid of it because it was light and had a crappy stock.
I have a Ruger .330 Win Mag and my cousin shoots a Remington .300 Ultra. My Win Mag kicks worse than his Ultra.
The ballistics on the Ultra are outstanding. If I buy another rifle, it will be an Ultra. The ammo is more expensive but is worth it in my mind. I would go with the Ultra, no questions about it.
I shoot a Remington 300 Ultra Mag and would not give it up for anything. I am a small framed guy and put a muzzle break on mine because of the recoil and also bought an after market thumb hole stock. I reload my bullets with Nosler 200 grain accubonds and the gun handles very nicely. I would not be afraid to let any 16 year old shoot mine. Before I did a little work with mine, it did kick. I have shot prairie dogs, antelope, deer, red stag and elk with mine. I have shot other loads through mine and mine really likes the 200 grain. It is a bit much for small game, but I shot an antelope buck last year at 310 yds with the accubonds and hit it right through both shoulders and did no major meat damage. The trick is the bonded core bullets don't seem to rip up light skinned animals too bad. My father also shoots one and he has taken his to Africa and killed everything from a impala to a giraffe and his guide was impressed with the power - he too shoots the 200 grain bullets. Shoot me an email if you decide to buy one and I can start you off with a few load numbers. email@example.com
Like stated before the old .06 is hard to beat. If you have your heart set on a mag I would give the nod to the 300 Win. The balistics between the WM, UM, and the WSM just aren't enough to justify the price. Infact, according to Remmingtons charts the UM is .75 inch higher @ 100yrds, WSM is .02 inch @100. Is it really worth paying eight dollars more a box for a rifle that shooter error is greater than the ballistic difference????
Sorry, I meant I have a .300, not a .330.
I do believe paying $8 more a box is worth it on this, when you look at the velocity and energy that the Ultra carries, it is quite a difference.
I pay about $40 per box for the Win Mag shells and I think the good Ultra's are in the lower to mid $50's for a box of 20.
Jiffy if you would have made it to the FBO the first time this summer you would have meet auggie.
Id defintely take a 300 Mag over the others. If you want lighter recoil you can buy 'managed recoil' loads or if you reload you can spice it up a bit. You get a lot more variety in factory loads and its a step up from the 30-06/308 crowd without the pain of the bigger/more expensive rounds.
One great thing about the .300 Win Mag is that it is, despite of its short neck and belted case a very accurate cartridge,, many long range sniper rifles have been built around this caliber,, and with manageable recoil at that,,Recoil and flinching have been well covered in previous posts,, many outfitters dont want clients with muzzle breaks on their rifles,, they are devastatingly hard on the ears when anywhere near one,,The good ol .300 Winny is very hard to beat,,,,,
I had a 300 Win Mag for many years and wish I had kept it. The ammo is reasonable in price with a good selection, they are inherently accurate and very manageable recoil. I shot my moose at 400 yds and a larger calibur would not have made any difference. It would be my pick if I had to get another 30 calibur.
I had a 300 Win Mag for many years and wish I had kept it. The ammo is reasonable in price with a good selection, they are inherently accurate and very manageable recoil. I shot my moose at 400 yds and a larger calibur would not have made any difference. It would be my pick if I had to get another 30 calibur.
So where does the 7mm fit into all of this discussion? Oh and the 30-378 is a beast. My uncle has one but I haven't shot it yet just heard stories! Hope to give her a whirl sometime this fall.
Tim S.
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LOL I would say that the 7mm isn't in this discussion. After all he is just comparing the 300 WM and the 300 UM. ALthough, the 30-378 is a cannon. If I was going to do it over I would still stick with my 300 Wby Mag. Sorry, just had to toss one more into the mix. Hope no one minds. BTW Tim when you going to take that STW off of bubbas hands???
here is the link for the ballistics on Remington's site
same old argument about how great an extra 290fps is at the muzzle-- I'm sure recipes for handloads are available
to move the 300 win mag up to or past factory 300 ultra mag
I don't know. Many other things to write checks out for. You know, I'm not the rich farmer like you ;-)
If you yahoos would stay out of the bar I could take a look at the gun and shoot it a bit. But no, drink all night and sleep all day. By the way, it was a good goose hunt. Should have been there.
Tim S.
Check out the recoil table below.
You'll see that the .300 Ultra has quite abit more recoil than the .300 Win Mag.
Using Nosler's ballistic tables for their 200 grain .308 bullet and comparing the 300 Win to the 30 - 378 (they don't have the ultra data so used the 30-378 which arguably is even flatter than the Ultra) Let's critically look at the numbers!!
With a 200 yard zero, at 400 yards the Win will drop -20.6 and the 30-378 drops -17.6 with energies of 2439 and 2520 respectively.
Anyone who can tell or aim with a difference of less than 4 inches drop in mind at 400 yards must be a heck of a better shot than me! And any elk that can tell the difference if hit anywhere (either a good or poor hit) between 2439 and 2520 fps must be some new species of superelk!
In my opinion, absolutely NO significant differences between them, especially when 90% of elk and moose are shot at well under 200 yards!
And now, for the rest of the story!!
Compare both those supermags with the "old outdated" 06 sighted in at the same 200 yards with the same 200 grain bullet and the numbers are -22.3 in drop and 2259 foot pounds at 400 yards. Again, for ALL practical purposes, no significant differences!
As you can see, with any of these rifles you can "hold on hair" well past 400 yards, and in my opinion most shooters have NO excuse shooting that far anyway!
I'm glad I'm not a bull elk, but if I were, and were standing 400 yards from the average shooter, I would by far prefer them to be shooting the 30-378, 300 ultra, or even the 300 Win, rather than the "old outdated ought six" as the odds would be MUCH MUCH higher that they would flinch and miss me with the bigger cannons! Then I could go back to chasing my harem of cows! LOL
Actually bobkat 1MOA up or down is kind of a big deal. Now when you put that into the perspective of hunting elk, it really doesn
Good advice,, My observations in the field shooting practices are that many who shoot super magnums tend to pull their shots high,, maybe that is a degree of flinching,, they shoot ok left to right but most of the time high,, couple that with a 2/12 inch sight in a 100 yards and they shoot over most game,, I have a 7STW and it is a great shooter but for the extra grains of powder compared to my pet 7Rem Mag loads gives me little to holler about except at the shoulder,, I got rid of an 8mmMag for elf and my .338, great rifles but I feel more comfortable with my .300 Win for elk,, for deer hunting my 7 mags are just the ticket,, why,, because they dont kick much with a good pad, But buck the North Dalota wind as good as any,, and in almost all cases it is a bang flop affair,,and that is the frosting on the cake,, I have taken many deer with the standard cartridges,, .308,, 06,, .270,280 and they all work fine,, but we all have our favorites,, and for me the 7 mag,168 gr Bergers, a stiff load of H1000,, Fed 215M primers and you can shoot very well out past 400 yards with no worries,,
Wwith the ultra high velocity facination one would think the .220 swift would be twice as good as the .22-250
I swear to god some people dont believe 2000fps or even 3000fps can kill an animal. Maybe averyone should trade their .22-250s for the new .223 wssm
That's spooky! When I said "most shooters" shouldn't shoot at 400 yards anyway, I was thinking of you three guys who replied, plus Horsager and maybe one or two others, as examples of exceptions - guys who can probably take advantage of a slightly flatter cartridge and be able to still shoot it accurately! LOL
I use a .300 Win for elk, too, although lately I've toned it down to a bit lighter of a bullet (165 gr. Barnes and Interbonds) and backed off a bit on the loads so I can shoot it better in the field. Probably more like a souped up 06 than a .300!
Guess I'm gettin old and a bit more wimpy! - as hairy chested as I used to be but now the hair's turning white!
But as they say, better to be over the hill than under it! LOL
I think that all the hype over the super-magnums is just that - hype. I don't think that an inch or 2 more drop or a few hundred fps velocity makes any real difference to 99 percent of the guys out there. To someone like Jiffy, who is capable of taking 400 yard plus shots, it might. For the rest of us, it isn't going to matter. I think we tend to get caught up in what-ever is new and better sometimes. If it is new and better, we just have to have it. I know several people who went out and bought the ultra mag for just that reason. I also know that I will out shoot any one of them with my 300 mag. I do not own any fancy or "odd" calibers. If you are into that kind of thing - great. But does anyone really "need" them - NO. Same thing with optics. I know lots of guys that paid more for one scope than all of mine combined. That would be OK if you are a serious shooter or knew how to use that scope to its full potential. Most people who buy them do not.
I don't own any specialty caliber guns. I don't have any $1,000 scopes. I don't spend a fortune on handloading to get the hottest bullet imaginable, and I don't buy the most expensive shells in the store. I do however take my fair share of game and will put my shooting skills up against most others (not you Jiffy. Don't get exited). I think there is a huge gap between what is needed and what is out there. That is my opinion.
Now to the topic of elk cartriges. When I went to Colorado hunting, many of the locals laughed at our "cannons". We were all packing 300's, 300 ultra mags, and even a couple 338's. Most of the locals are comfortable with the 30-06 as an elk rifle and 270's are not uncommon. I think the trend these days is about over-kill. Heck, if we are all looking for the fastest, hardest hitting, longest range gun we can get ahold of, why not consider the 50 cal? 1/2 mile shots - no problem.
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what do ya think? bolt or falling block.... for this round... i dont plan on doing anything else but badlands class hunting with it.
Why not buy a 300 barrel for your Encore??
thought about it.... but id rather get a 45/70 barrel or a 375 H&H barrel... and get a higher end 300 winchester...
Bobkat has this right on. Look at drop at a given distance (make sure the zero-in distance is the same for both cartriges), not muzzle velocity, not even muzzle energy. There is a pretty good free online ballistics calculator at biggameinfo.com. Most common calibers are so close that aruguing which is better is just silly. For you guys shooting 300 Ultra's with 200gn bullets, I wholeheartedly agree with that choice. Big cases are meant to shoot big bullets fast. If any of you have chronoed them I'd be interrested in what you're getting for veolocity. For comparison's sake I get 3020FPS from a 26" Stainless Winchester W/200gn TSX's. That load gives my 8# rifle plenty of snap, more than most will shoot well off of bags, or a good rest. That rifle gives many a case of the "flinchies".
When I was in the market for an elk only rifle last year I settled on a 340 weatherby mag. I realized I wouldn't be shooting it every year and at the range much. The 250 grain Nosler partition did a good job on the 7x7 it slammed into. I already own 7mm mags and 30 calibers so I went for bigger just in case I get to go for big bear or dangerous game some year. With that said today I would still by a 34 caliber rifle for my elk only gun, but likely a 338 win mag.
The 340 is a .33 caliber rifle, as is the 338. The 340 WBY is BRUTAL! I sighted one in for a guy going Musk Ox hunting, and that rifle falls in the "No Fun" catagory where recoil is concerned.
Once again Horsager you are correct. I guess I started too early this morning.
In now way have I ever been or ever will be a woman. I'm not into guys... Its not my thing. I don't know whether to riducle you or be a fraid of your offer. Anyways, the 30-378 in a Sako TRG was discontinued a few years ago. I found a used on the other day. I might have to pick up some new reloading dies and brass in the next few weeks.
Sorry about that...I thought you were of the female type. I'm not sure why I had that in my head but I did for some reason. My bad.....however, do you have a sister?? lol!! just kidding. ;)!!
i would go with the 300 ultra
You're only 7 years to late.
whats all this .30 cal hogwash talk! Everybody knows you can kill anything with a .223!!
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whats all this .30 cal hogwash talk! Everybody knows you can kill anything with a .223!!
They've killed wolves, caribou, black bears, and a grizz with an ar 223 on Yukon Men.


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Favre, who sprained the sternoclavicular in his right shoulder on Sunday, said it is within the realm of possibility that he would say he is not healthy enough to play. But head coach Leslie Frazier said he expects a decision on Favre's status to come on Sunday.
Favre has started 297 straight regular-season games dating back to 1992.
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The shoulder injury is the latest ailment the 41-year-old Favre has battled this season. He had elbow tendinitis, two broken bones in his foot and a lacerated chin that slowed him up to this point.
If Favre cannot play, backup Tarvaris Jackson would start. Jackson led the Vikings to a 38-14 win against Buffalo last week after Favre was knocked out on the first drive.
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Monday July 23rd, 2012 4:11pm
ELMIRA, N.Y. - The Rensselaer men's lacrosse team defeated Elmira, 15-6, to improve to 5-0 and give head coach Jim Townsend the school record for career wins with 110. Townsend is now 110-73 in his career, breaking the mark of 109 set by Ned Harkness (109-26-2), who coached RPI from 1945-54 & 1956-58.
Elmira opened the scoring with a goal at the 11:04 mark of the first period but RPI answered by scoring the nine out of the next 10 goals for a commanding 9-2 advantage early in the fourth quarter. Junior attack Conor Chocoles (Babylon, NY / Babylon) had three of the goals, while Bryant Johnson (Minnetonka, MN / The Blake School) and Devin Arnold (Buffalo, NY / Canisius) had two goals apiece in that span. Arnold also tallied an assist.
The Soaring Eagles scored three of the next four goals to cut their deficit to five goals (10-5) but RPI scored five of the final six goals – by five different players – for the final margin.
Junior Nick Billy (Redding, CT / Joel Barlow) had a team-high five points on two goals and three assists for the Engineers. Johnson (4 goals), Chocheles (3 goals, 1 assist) and Arnold (3 goals, 1 assist) each had four points for RPI, which won 19 of 24 face-offs and held a 41-29 advantage in ground balls.
Freshman James Manchester (Niskayuna, NY / Niskayuna) finished with 13 saves for the win. He is now 5-0. Elmira's Geoffrey Lane (Pennington, NJ / Pennington School) made 14 saves.
The Soaring Eagles were led offensively by Rick Acorn (Barrie, ON / Innisdale), who had a goal and two assists for three points in the loss.
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OLNEY, Md. — Not to be missed during this time of our national heat stroke, floatingsheep.org provides a regional breakdown of differences indicated by tweets concerning "church" or "beer."
Betcha couldn't guess which terms pops up more often in the South, could ya? Should we be surprised that it so closely corresponds to those areas where alcohol is still BANNED although Prohibition was repealed in 1933?
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Left: Robert Resnik; Right: Robert Resnik & Deb Flanders
Left: Lisa's Fiddle; Right: Andre Marchand & Lisa Ornstein
Left: Alan Greenleaf; Right: Marty Morrisey & Robert Resnik
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From reels and lovesongs, to 'rock snot' and historical ballads - the music of the Lake Champlain region is as complex and diverse as the people who play it. Cheryl Willoughby explores the unique musical heritage of the region in "Lake Music: The First 400 Years", part of VPR's Champlain 400 celebrations. Listen to VPR Saturday, August 15th at 4.


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Edwin Hubble was an astronomer who helped redefine the universe and our place in it. This program will examine who he was, what he did, and how America honored him with the Hubble Space Telescope. The future of the Hubble Space Telescope will also be discussed.
Since its opening in 1978, the planetarium has regularly shown public programs on the second and fourth Sundays of each month. A program titled "The Evening Sky" will be shown June 12. There will be no program shown on June 26.
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Fascinating yet Unrecognized Aspects regarding the Augusta National Golf Course
I got the enormous pleasure a number of years back to visit the Master's Golf Competition in Augusta, Georgia. It in fact wasn't just one of my most memorable golf experiences, but that very same golf course which I've spent years observing with TV held a really dissimilar look in person. The actual contours with the whole course is what was remarkable; it will be much more undulating compared with what it looks with the tube. To provide an example, the particular fairway on eighteen is far steeper by a good bit as opposed to the image portrays on TV.
One more impression was the scale for the practice spot. That zone appeared to be so limited the golfers would drive a shot off the practice tee right into a huge net. As in contrast with the current golf courses nowadays, in which there are vast areas of land to work with, Augusta National is actually a classic course. At the period it was actually built, professionals did not hit a golf ball with the vast yardage they generally do these days, therefore they've outgrown their driving zone. I observed Padraig Harrington at the range knock golf shots three-quarters the way up the colossal mesh.
Augusta National gives a look of being just what paradise should seem like to a golf enthusiast, especially whenever it is within complete bloom during early April. It is more unspoiled plus attractive as opposed to exactly what is captured on TV. But still they still keep the Southern pleasantness and charm, despite the fact that the wealth of the association will always be rather clear. They still were providing homemade snacks (charging below $3) and snacks that were so low-priced for an event like this I could barely believe it. The competition most likely always has preserved it's own Southern allure, but the wealth hasn't forever been at hand.
The actual property had been an indigo agricultural estate when it was bought by a Belgian baron in 1857. Their son, a guy that was a horticulturist, imported trees and plants that turned that estate into a nursery, which their property owes a great deal of the elegance to this very day. That nursery ended operations in 1918.
That famous player Bobby Jones started the actual idea with developing that golf course over the empty chunk of property, and then the golf course ended up being completed in 1933. The golf club nearly went broke in the years of economic depression, and the golf course designer Alistair Mackenzie would be paid just $2000 of that $10000 he was owed. The initial event was staged March 22, 1934, with their entire prize for those twelve professionals engaging had been $5000. In order to gather the amount, the association would ask all the members for assistance, as the organization and the tournament repeated to lose money within the early years as well as all the way through The second world war.
Our post-war growth time lastly delivered some monetary ease, and basically with the Fifties their tournament particularly and the game of golf on the whole, served to make it possibly one of the golden times of sports in the USA. CBS has actually televised these Masters every single year ever since 1956. It's in fact turn out to be among the leading happenings in all sporting events, and for one at this time living through icy winters, it is the experience that basically launches any golfing period.
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Terry Jeffrey, editor-in-chief of CNSNews.com, writes that the Associated Press issued a dispatch that was remarkably incorrect. When it comes to the prospect of "therapeutic cloning" – creating human clones in a lab only to exploit them like lab rats – President Obama hasn't been as clear as the AP suggested:
Obama's Monday announcement that he was reversing President Bush's policy of denying federal funding to stem-cell research that requires killing human embryos included what may be the most cynical of all Obama's carefully crafted self-contradictions.
This one was designed to build political cover for promoting research that clones human beings for the specific purpose of killing them.
The headline and lead paragraph on an Associated Press story conveyed exactly the impression Obama desired to create. The headline said: "Obama calls cloning 'dangerous, profoundly wrong.'" The lead paragraph said: "President Barack Obama says human cloning is 'dangerous, profoundly wrong' and has no place in society."
But this headline and lead are false. Obama said no such thing.
What Obama did say -- according to the official transcript of his remarks on the White House Website -- is this: "And we will ensure that our government never opens the door to the use of cloning for human reproduction. It is dangerous, profoundly wrong and has no place in our society, or any society."
Note that he did not close the door to human cloning, period. He simply closed the door to "the use" of human cloning for one purpose. He left the door open to "the use" of human cloning for other purposes.
Jeffrey also challenges the idea that "therapeutic cloning" isn't "reproductive" -- it reproduces a human being entirely, even if the scientist has no intention of giving the clone a normal human existence. But AP shouldn't be giving readers a false impression that Obama is more conservative on this issue than he really is.


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Will its tradition of super-fast distance races continue? Written by: Matt Fitzgerald The Payton Jordan Invitational track meet, held at
Fast-rising Houston Marathon steals events away from New York and Boston The Houston Marathon is certainly an event on the rise. In recent
An interview with coach Greg McMillan First-time marathon runners are often advised to set a conservative goal and run at a conservative
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Tuesday January 21st, 2014 7:03pm
Belmont Abbey head coach Chris Barrett is one of the better kept secrets in expanding world of lacrosse down south.
After 11 consecutive seasons at Limestone College, first as a player and later as an assistant, Barrett took the helm in Belmont, North Carolina, as the head coach of the Crusaders in August of 2011.
Long before that, Barrett was a midfielder for the Saints from 2001 to 2004 and participated in four consecutive Division II championship games, including the Saints' 2002 victory. After that, he stayed on as an assistant from 2005 to 2011 — a stretch that saw the Saints reach the Final Four in each of the next seven seasons (including another championship game appearance in 2005), giving Barrett more than a decade's worth of trips to Final Four weekend, an amazing accomplishment for the player-turned-coach.
Leaning on valuable experience gained in his time under Mike Cerino and then a year with current Saints coach JB Clarke's staff, it didn't take long for the Long Island native to make an impact on the Belmont Abbey program, earning Conference Carolinas Coach of the Year honors in 2012.
Despite the honor, it was then and remains now relatively difficult for a 2,000-student Catholic liberal arts school located about 20 minutes from Charlotte to find itself in the national spotlight. Though the team made obvious improvements on the offensive end, the Crusaders still struggled with a 5-11 record in Barrett's first season.
But with the program coming off its best season to date at 11-6 in 2013, and with a bright outlook for 2014, Belmont Abbey's progress and the dedication of its head coach could become more widely known in the growing and increasingly competitive South region of Division II lacrosse.
An key aspect of Barrett's efforts, he says, has been trying to instill a sustainable winning mentality at Belmont Abbey, similar to the one he helped create at Limestone.
"We're really trying to change the culture," he said. "In order for a team to learn how to win, they've got to lose a couple close ones. Last year, that happened and I think it helped us start to understand how to win. In my first year, we'd manage to get a four-goal lead by halftime, and then we'd fall off, maybe because we didn't have an enough horses in the stable. Last year, we had more guys, more guys who could play, and we showed we could turn a four-goal lead at halftime into a bigger lead by by the end."
Having served as the recruiting coordinator at Limestone, he's aware that he needs to utilize a deeper roster. And he knows the type of players he needs to bring to that roster, keeping close tabs on the recruiting scene in Canada, New York and Maryland, but eyeing particular players from non-traditional areas.
"We're focusing on athletes who want to get up and down the field, guys who want to play fast and generate offense the second our goalie makes a save," he said.
Character is an important element in what Barrett is trying to do. He understands that the selling points for Belmont Abbey — the close-knit campus, smaller classrooms and life in the south — makes for a unique proposition that will be right only for certain recruits.
"We want the best players we can get, but we're also looking for good people. We want guys who will do the right things off the field and in the classroom."
Now in his fifth year at Limestone, Clarke says Barrett helped him get off to a strong start in 2010 as head coach at Limestone as an assistant. He said he sees Barrett making a similar impact at his new home.
"They're a school that has committed to lacrosse, which is awesome for the south," Clarke said of Belmont Abbey. "Now they've got a terrific coach. Chris Barrett knows lacrosse inside and out and is a tireless worker. …They've got a good thing going over there."
Another component crucial to lifting the team, Barrett said, is trying to run it like a Division I program, adding that the Belmont Abbey athletics department has helped facilitate that objective. The team has a brand new locker room including an area with couches and a big-screen TV for screening game film, a sponsorship deal with Under Armour and a newly renovated weight room filled with state-of-the-art equipment to cater to a growing number of athletes on campus.
Most importantly, Barrett was able to hire two full-time assistant coaches — Le Moyne alum Corey Bulken and Limestone grad Spencer Wims, both former All-Americans in college who've been on the Charlotte Hounds practice roster.
"With Cory and Spencer here full-time now, we're working on lacrosse all day long, which was different when we had part-time assistants," Barrett said. "We're able to devote more man hours each day, and that's all because the administration is allowing it."
Barrett hopes to engrain his program in what he sees as a growing interest in the sport in his region. He credited the Charlotte Hounds and the Limestone program as doing wonders for growing the sport at the youth level. He hopes to have the same impact with his team, looking for ways to engage in outreach and put his players in front of young kids at nearby camps.
In raising the Crusaders' visibility, he's also hoping to create a legitimate rivalry with Limestone. There's a history between these two programs that makes this a story to watch for. The Crusaders actually upended the Saints in games in 2008 and 2009, and with Barrett's connection to Limestone, it projects as all the more interesting down the line.
Either way, Clarke said Belmont is a fine example of how the game is growing in the South region of the reorganized Division II landscape.
"There are actually several really competitive teams down here," Clarke said, pointing to programs like Pfeifer, Tampa, Florida Southern, Saint Leo and others as being overlooked in the Division II discussion.
"We have some teams down here that are growing and improving very quickly," Clarke continued. "Coach Barrett is doing exactly what he needs to do at Belmont Abbey, and that sort of thing is good for lacrosse in the south."
Looking toward this season, Barrett returns two All-Conference Carolinas selections — attackman Connor Sellars and defender Devin Cruz, both just sophomores. Sellars had a breakout season with 29 goals and 15 assists, earning the conference's Freshman of the Year hardware. His campaign was highlighted by two tremendous performances against Limestone — five goals and one assist against the Saints in the regular season and six goals and an assist against Limestone in the first round of the Conference Carolinas tournament.
Barrett and his staff are aiming to ride the positives from 2013 into an even better 2014, challenging the current roster members to set higher expectations for this spring.
"Last year, it was 11 wins, a program best," Barrett said. "I don't want us to just walk the line. I want these guys to set higher goals for themselves. I want them to say, 'Let's take Belmont Abbey to the conference title game and win the championship, let's set another school records for wins — let's do something no one's ever done before.'"


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1. open the door of the grey room with the bell in front of it, simply click the "doorknoob".
2. click on the worker with the milkshake. another guy appear and goes into the grey room.
3. click on grey button in front of the the black lever in the grey room.
4. click the black lever. the box move to the left.
5. fire the gun below the other grey room on the left side. the box will fall down and the first rope will be removed from the ballon.
6. pull the black lever again and push the grey button for the next "bombbox". move the box to the left (push the black lever again).
7. now you need a good timing to complete the first level: push the button on the left grey house (there is a cable with electric bulb on the end).
8. push the grey button in the house with the black guy and the lever to drop your bomb. you have to drop the bomb right after push the "electric bulb button (step 7).
9. done – your balloon is free.
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1. Click the rock to the left of the man.
2. Click the button in front of the man to lower the bridge.
3. Click the door to open it.
4. Click the man to exit the door.
"The Factory" – LEVEL 3 WALKTRHOUGH:
1. Press the man to the bottom left.
2. Press on the truck lift so the man gets on.
3. Press on lever on the upper right 4 times. A red barrel appears and blows up the top 3 boxes.
4. Press on lever again (red barrel will appear). When it is on the end of the track, press the bar under it (the boxes the to the left will blow up) you must do this two times so that there will be one box left on the second level.
5. Press the lever in the truck.
6. press the buttom a little bit to the right of the lever (near mans hand).
7. Press the man on the lift.
8. Press on the man again
9. Press the box a bit left of the man
10. Press the man that just got lifted up
11. Press the 4 to the left of the man.
12. click on the hook to the left of the red barrel.
13. Press on the man that just threw the plane
14. Press on the plane again and you are catapulted to the roof.
"On the Roof" – LEVEL 4 WALKTRHOUGH:
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2. Click on arrow on bottom so that it moves up.
3. Click man at bottom so that he shoots the arrow.
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