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VNC and RDP Benchmark Test
Virtual Network Computing
Virtual Network Computing (VNC) is a remote-protocol with which the screen content of a remotely located computer is displayed on a local monitor, from which the work can be carried out. With Virtual Network Computing, the remote computer is the VNC Server and the local computer is the VNC Viewer. In principle, a person using the VNC Viewer can work as if on his or her own computer.
Originally developed by Olivetti & Oracle Research Laboratory in Cambridge and subsequently taken over by AT&T, VNC has turned into the most widely used remote control program ever developed, primarily because it is free of charge and limited to the most important function – remote control. As VNC is deployable not only under Windows, but also on Macs, Linux/Unix and numerous, almost forgotten, operating systems, network administrators can easily remotely control almost all of their hosts and platforms with a single tool.
In addition to the original version of VNC there are now numerous further developed variants, such as RealVNC, VNCtight and UltraVNC, all of which are all still compatible with the other versions.
The use of VNC as a global helpdesk application in enterprises is, nonetheless, problematic, as there is practically no consideration for data protection/privacy, because the connection is not encrypted.
Remote Desktop Protocol
The Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) is a network protocol from Microsoft for the display and control of desktops from remote computers. It controls how the Remote Desktop Services are addressed and used in Microsoft Windows. The Remote Desktop Protocol is available for most versions of Windows operating systems, as well as for Mac OS X, Linux and FreeBSD.
With RDP, one of the two systems functions as a terminal server. This terminal server generates screen output on the terminal client. Additionally, mouse and keyboard entries can be received from the terminal client. The remote output on the terminal client can be either the only output that the terminal server generates for this session, or the actual screen output of the session will be made on the terminal server's local monitor and the terminal client receives only a copy of this output. Depending on the intended use, the user of the terminal client will be enabled to "monitor" the terminal server's workstation or even remotely control it. RDP controls the transmission of the screen content as well as the keyboard and mouse entries over the network.
Among the most notable characteristics of RDP are the encryption, smartcard-based authentication, bandwidth reduction, resource sharing, the ability to use several displays and the ability to bridge a temporary interruption without needing a new logon.
In addition to screen output as well as keyboard and mouse entries, with RDP, the session's audio output and microphone can be redirected to the terminal client. A terminal client's printer can also be used.
Every RDP version uses the RC4 encryption algorithm, which is designed for the encryption of data streams in networks. If the encryption is set to the lowest security level, then only the traffic from client to server is encrypted. This, at least, protects sensitive data such as passwords.
UltraVNC vs. RDP
Using traces, data transmission with UltraVNC and RDP were compared in a test. Hereby, special care was taken to ensure that both programs' system settings were as closely identical as possible, so that an unambiguous comparison could be made.
The test was made using two different groups of settings. With the first group of settings, all screen backgrounds were switched off, i.e., on the local computer there is only a black background. This has the advantage that it avoids transmitting an excessive amount of data, making the connection faster. Additionally, with RDP the settings printer function, audio output and microphone were deactivated, as VNC does not support these extended functions.
In this case, the values received through VNC are up to four times as much as those with RDP. The same result is also seen with the performance of several identical tests and other scenarios with the same settings. If, however, one waits a few minutes and performs no tasks, with RDP data will still be sent. This also happens with VNC, but in a negligible amount.
With the second group of settings, all desktop backgrounds were activated. This means that on the client's monitor the complete version of the server desktop appears exactly as if one were sitting at the remote machine. With these settings, working with VNC is even slower than previously, as here more data have to be sent. All performed tests showed that the difference in data volume is in the area of five to seven times higher.
With VNC one cannot establish a connection to the remote computer (server) if it is in a logged-off or switched-off state. With RDP one can connect to the remote computer if it is in a logged-off state, but not if it has been switched off.
Working with VNC is very much slower than with RDP, as refreshing the graphics requires a great deal of time.
With VNC the remote machine must already be running and the VNC server activated, otherwise no connection can be made.
Another, serious, disadvantage of VNC is that it is unencrypted. This means a third party could monitor the connection and passwords or even the entirety of the transmitted information can be intercepted and read. Furthermore, the compression is not particularly efficient, which negatively impacts working on the remote computer in the event of slower (upload) connections.


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On another busy day's worth of poker yesterday another event was completed with Keven Stammen taking home the World Poker Tour World Championship for a payout of $1,350,000. The current leader in the Global Poker Index Player of the Year race has now strengthened his position even more after beating the final table and eventually Byron Kaverman during heads up.
He actually came into the day leading the field quite substantially and Kaverman also started in second place.
The Final Table Seating And Chip Counts
St 1) Abe Korotki – 2,560,000
St 2) Byron Kaverman – 4,070,000
St 3) Keven Stammen – 5,650,000
St 4) Tony Dunst – 1,330,000
St 5) Ryan D'Angelo – 1,220,000
St 6) Curt Kohlberg – 1,580,000
He started with the chip lead and never really looked like losing it to be honest. The chips were flying in all directions but by the time heads up play started he already had double the chips of his opponent. Kaverman did manage to get back almost to level pegging but Stammen again moved up a gear to push himself back into the lead.
The final hand saw Kaverman push his final 3 million into the middle with the 4d-4s whilst Stammen quickly made the call with his Ac-8s. Kaverman was slightly ahead the whole way along until the river card on the board of Qh-9c-6s-3h-Ah delivered the title to the much deserving Stammen.
The other players will also be happy enough with their performances in this event despite missing out on the title. Tony Dunst played extremely well considering spending much of the time as a short stack to still finish in 3rd place whilst we are sure Ryan D'Angelo will be at the very least satisfied with his 4th place finish.
Really happy about finishing 3rd @WPT Champs, was short all tournament and am thrilled with the score. What a season!
— Tony Dunst (@Bond_18) April 27, 2014
How It Finished
1st) Keven Stammen – $1,350,000
2nd) Byron Kaverman – $727,860
3rd) Tony Dunst – $452,729
4th) Ryan D'Angelo – $363,930
5th) Curt Kohlberg – $286,292
6th) Abe Korotki – $235,341

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Hey there, time traveller!
This article was published 20/1/2013 (1619 days ago), so information in it may no longer be current.
Not necessary to bring occupation of father into it
Regarding the Jan. 16 Brandon Sun top story, "Cop's Son Pleads Guilty To Graffiti Charge." I am wondering does it really matter if it was a cop's son or is this just another way of slamming the police. If it was a farmer's son, would it read, "Farmer's Son Pleads Guilty" or anyone's son or daughter for that matter? I don't think it really matters if it was a cop's son or not. It didn't need to be announced that it was a cop's son. I have no connection with the cops. I am a farmer from rural Manitoba and I just don't think that was necessary.
French isn't just for the rich
"The affluent can pay for private French lessons." École New Era School is not full of rich French kids! I'm tired of hearing that the French program is elitist — every single student in the Brandon School Division is entitled to an education in both French and English if they so choose. My husband and I don't speak French — we just knew this is what's right for our kids and anyone else in this city could be in our shoes. What's wrong with wanting our kids to do better than we have?
Not interested in Winnipeg news
Why can't Brandon have a TV station? I miss the old CKX. I can't see why Brandon couldn't make a TV station work, there are plenty of smaller towns that have one. I'm sick of watching Winnipeg news and weather when its usually just whats happening around Winnipeg and their weather is completely different then ours.
Time to get with the times
Is there a way in which people on set incomes can receive an increase to match the amount needed to keep up with the increases in the costs of everything which has to be paid? There are price increases on the purchases of taxes, food, water, hydro and everything else. Also, as these prices rise, so does the amount of provincial and federal tax money. Pension money paid into that category 30 years ago, were for prices of that time. When was the last time that pension plan receivers had a rise in pay equal to the rise in the cost of living?
Laws needs an overhaul
The province has determined the elk hunters, which I would call shooters, broke no laws. The decision as I see it — there are two different laws, when it comes to hunting and that is the sad part in all of this. There is the law of survival when the killing of animals is necessary to have food to eat, to sustain oneself and family. The other law that is flaunted in the face of Conservation, is "we can do this, because we have the inherent rights to do so." That is the law that needs a complete overhaul, as to the indiscriminate killing of animals. Rumour has it that there is interest in a new movie production — the name being considered ... "The Elkslayers."
A kind gesture
A big bouquet to a young man at a Sobeys store recently who was so kind to the person behind him to give them his points for his Sobeys card. I was very impressed.


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I walked into Sephora today just to browse. I was on a ride along, my friend needed to pick up a refill of her Bare Minerals foundation. I walked over to the Lorac stand to see what was new and noticed a bright red clearance sign up. There was one last eye primer left and it was $5.25 off the original retail so I had to grab it. Who actually walks out of Sephora empty handed right? My favorite eye shadow primer is by Lorac it's called the "Behind the scenes primer". It's the only one that can keep my oily eyelids in check.
At the checkout stand I asked the cashier what was going on with the sale. Is Lorac going out of business or just leaving Sephora? She explained to me that the owner of Lorac, Carol Shaw has decided not to do business with Sephora anymore, she is pulling her line from Sephora stores and Sephora.com. You may have noticed the Lorac Pro Palette has been out of stock for quite some time. I'm not quite sure why but there could be a plethora of reasons. The cost of doing business with Sephora may not be worth it or perhaps Carol has some growth strategies up her sleeve. Let's juts hope I can find the Lorac Pro palette when I decide to buy it. I know, I'm a little late.
I wanted to let you know that the new birthday gift is available and it's fabulous! I walked out of there with a mini MUFE lipstick in Natural N9 and the new Smokey Lash Extravagant mascara.


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The Digerati Strike Back
It was bound to happen: based on Paul Zukofsky's recent draconian copyright comments, the digerati have struck back and posted a fully indexed, OCR'd PDF of A.
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What a sad situation.
According to composer Milton Babbitt in 2001, Paul Zukofsky, after a career devoted to performing, as a violin virtuoso, and conducting contemporary American music, "has nothing now," and, because of health problems, has no longer been able to perform. Maybe he needs the money.
Whether the courts would agree with his narrow interpretation of "fair use" remains to be seen. From what I recall of J. D. Salinger's court battle over quotations from unpublished, archived writings, I would guess that PZ is correct about unpublished materials. But I'm not sure how "fair use" works for published material. If I recall correctly, Irving Berlin successfully prevented the quotation of music or lyrics from his songs in any publication while he was alive; and, like the people Zukofsky is addressing, the people who wanted to quote Berlin mainly intended it as an act of homage. Now, of course, you can find any Berlin lyric for free on the internet.
John says: "Maybe he needs the money."
Yeah, but I wonder if smoking every quoter out of his hole is going to make him go broke.
Good question! I have no idea. Not defending his approach here, just got curious about him, having remembered reading that he was a hot classical violinist.
At the moment, 38 seeds and 57 peers–not bad, not bad at all! Beats some popular movies out.
It's not a fiercely competitive field with dozens of reasonably good performers to choose from, but PZ's certainly a listenable interpreter of 20th century composers. The Shapey and Sessions discs he sells are worth having, for example. I wouldn't recommend his Sonatas and Partitas unless you collect everybody's versions, though.
I regret to say that it looks like the PDF has been taken down.
Well he certainly isn't trying to make friends. P. Zukovsky's tone seems way, WAY out of line, no? Actually, I might be inclined to sympathize with him in some small way had he made the important distinction between folks using his father's words/intellectual property and folks using his father's words/intellectual property FOR PROFIT. P. Zukovsky seems to have anger toward scholars doing scholarly work on his father's career. Well, most scholars don't publish their dissertations as books–and of the ones who do, very, very few profit financially. Same thing with publications in academic journals and lit mags–hardly anyone's making a living off the scholarship they publish. And I would venture a guess that there isn't anyone out there getting rich off their Zukovsky scholarship.
Those who are actually profiting to some degree from work they do that quotes LZ, then, must by law honor the copyright and pay whatever the fee is (within reason and in keeping with what the typical fees are for that kind of thing; I actually don't know). I think very few of us who lurk on Harriet, especially those of us who are writers, would quarrel with that. But P. Zukovsky seems to not even want his dad's name mentioned in print, let alone quoted, without gettin' paid! Seems like a better approach for him might've been to make nice with those who wish to study his dad's work; to scorn them with such meanness, and to call the profession of literary studies a 'so called' profession, makes him come off like a crazy person.
These new mirrors are being passed around the internets:
I guess you could call Paul Zukofsky's attitude to Fair Use ironic, given that he's quoted by his father in "A" pointing out that most of the poem is lifted from other sources.
In the cases of Berlin and Salinger, it was their own work in question. In this case, it's the son of the poet. I'm sympathetic toward Paul Zukofsky's need for money. But I think he's going about it backwards.
And, though I've bought multiple copies of everything by Louis Zukofsky that's been published, I won't be accessing the pirated digital download. But the presence of the digital download itself demonstrates my belief that Mr. Paul Zukofsky could make more money by helping to promote his father's works than by trying to stop them from being quoted.
On the other hand, maybe this whole thing was orchestrated in order to get some publicity for the inadequately recognized master of American poetry, Louis Zukofsky. I've often tried to get discussions going about the poet and to promote his work. The tempest after Paul Zukofsky's copyright statement is the most talk I've ever heard about the great Louis Zukofsky.
The free digital download might even result in more sales. After all, people who like books aren't generally content with a pdf version of something and those who are probably wouldn't buy the book anyway. Great promotional gimmick, if that's what it is. My hat is off.
>I regret to say that it looks like the PDF has been taken down.
Looks like the old ways still kind of rule…
But a question: Why can't the whole book be put up on UbuWeb? That way, should there be a legal threat, Ubuweb can just resist and take the issue to the wall.
I mean, why not host a test case on literary "theft" *within the digital property lines* of those who make the case for the aesthetic and ethical values of theft?
Instead of being half-hearted about it, that is, and putting the theft up elsewhere?
Is that gauntlet I smell?
Nope. Pissing match.
I like your suggestion, that Mr. G. post the pdf under his own auspices, since he has advocated for the value of theft, and UbuWeb states that it "posts much of its content without permission; we rip out-of-print LPs into sound files; we scan as many old books as we can get our hands on; we post essays as fast as we can OCR them."
But I do have one reservations about your comment: you accuse Mr. G. of being half-hearted for posting the pdf elsewhere. Do you have evidence that he did it? An unsupported accusation — especially one made so confidently — is unfriendly.
It's really too bad that "A" is out of print.
That's correct, John. I assumed too much there.
Who really knows, after all, how many secret cells "Al-Digerati" has? No doubt there must be autonomous formations who follow the Leader's philosophical communiques and undertake actions anterior to the Spiritual-Combat center's awareness.
But my questions to the Leader in his ether-redoubt (I think it's in Princeton at the moment)stand.
Here's one more: Why *not* take this thoroughly unusual, brimming opportunity to strike a major symbolic blow and boldly put the Conceptual money where the mouth is?
No doubt I got carried away a bit in the above comment!
Sorry about that.
But the concluding question is still reasonable, I believe.
every other occupation has websites devoted to their work and its issues,
so I assume there must be sites where thieves congregate to celebrate their illegal acts—
please can't you restrict this one to poets,
and let the thieves go gloat and glorify themselves on their own "theftsites"?—
if Mr. Zukofsky starts a legal fund to help sue the crooks stealing his copyrighted property, I'll contribute to it—
2nd the motion. What is this, Gossip World Reality Show? Poetry Celebrity Dirt-dish Review?
Go away, po-biz marketeers.
Dear Senores Gouldbars and Quipoknotts,
Until you gentlemen come and offer us a watertight Yellow-Submarine definition of the POET, one that makes us slap our brows and shout "OF COURSE! Why didn't I pay more attention to Messrs. Gouldbars and Quipoknott's handwringing Neo-neo-Platonism all this Harriet time?", well, I'm afraid that someone like Kenny Goldsmith has just as much right to post here as either one of you do.
The poet is a maker, not an operator.
What's the difference?
>The poet is a maker, not an operator.
Oh, that won't do, Henry.
It's true that some poets, in the po-biz sense, are more earnest and/or expert "operators" than others, but show me a poet who isn't an "operator," to some degree or other, and I'll show you, with an astronomical formula, how Joanne Kyger's poetry will without question prove more lasting than Robert Frost's. (That's a joke made from a pronouncement at Silliman's blog today, btw.)
In any case, in the poetic sense, as well, there is no clear divide in poetry between "making" and "operating," the last understood as (inevitably) negotiating and assembling what is given to us from the tradition.
Remember Eliot? He wrote a famous essay on that once. I mention him because I know you like him.
come and offer us a watertight Yellow-Submarine definition of the POET
show me a poet who isn't an "operator,"
In audio-land, books and magazines devoted to audio-theft have been around for decades. Mr. G. follows in their footsteps and, it seems to me, makes no bones about that.
Sampling was going on in pop and jazz in the '60s — think of how much the Beatles would have to pay in licensing fees in order to make "Revolution 9" (which I love, btw) today. The great Charlie Haden (Ornette Coleman's original bassist) was using samples on jazz records by the end of the '60s. And of course Cage was doing it for decades before that.
I did a collage soundtrack for a friend's experimental film back in '89, before I'd heard of De La Soul. I was doing collage poetry back in '83. Thinking, you know, about Picasso and Rauschenberg and Cage. Nothing new about it.
The Sherrie-Levine-esque wrinkle of copying whole artworks and signing them anew seems like a move made for the dust-covered curators, which, in historical terms, is the opposite of an avant-garde attitude. Not that there's anything wrong with that — to steal a famous line.
can't see how Eliot quoting a few lines from ancient poets justifies stealing anyone's legally copyrighted material . . .
is the Obama poster/AP lawsuit apropos?
Eliot. Right, & the Devil quotes Scripture, too.
The poet is a maker, not a skimmer.
why stop at Zukofsky? if you permit the publishing of his work without permission of the copyright holder,
who's next, Auden? screw Edward Mendelson and the other executors of the Auden estate… is that your goal?
I'd love to put out a p-o-d chapbook of Larkin's 29 sonnets, so Monica Jones can bite it, is that what you're telling me? . . .
Andrew Lloyd Webber should sue Valerie Eliot to get back the "Cats" royalties he paid her, according to you, right? Is that what you're saying?
I realize the copyright laws are made by legislators paid graft by Disney and giant media congloms who want to extend them for commercial greed,
but so are all the other laws they pass—
it's strange, this furor and anger directed by Goldsmith and the other avanties at Paul Zukofsky for asserting his ownership under the copyright laws—
isn't he simply claiming what others enjoy, other heirs of literary estates?
why is he any different, any less entitled than the heirs of Robert Lowell?
(I'd love to publish a volume where all of Lowell's "imitations" were collated chronologically with notes, but!)
I know the reaction to Paul Zukofsky has something to do with the history of avantgarde esthetics and its bizarre delusions of outlawry—
or perhaps the contempt and disregard directed at him has other historical precedents, left over from eras when a Zukofsky was granted less rights than a Lowell——
no, it's probably not antisemitism, per se,
but rather the outrage felt toward a traitor to one's cause—
our comrade has betrayed us, the avanties cry,
hurt by what they feel is disloyalty to the holy tenets
of their faith . . . they feel wounded by his, Paul Zukofsky's, renunciation
of their sacred creed …
As always the faithful hate an apostate more an unbeliever,
a heretic more than a heathen.
It's nice to see someone stand up for Disney for a change. Good job.
These celebrated rip-offs & remakes & reproductions, the whole Conceptual schtick that art is not about making, it's about positioning –
it all strikes me as especially & consciously ANTI-poetic. It is diametrically opposed to the idea that, in the sphere of art, originality is inherent & necessary.
& why is originality so fundamental? It's not simply a consequence of individualism, or copyright laws. It has to do with the relationship between originality and invention. Originality is the sign of something distinct, unique, and new. This originality of invention, which undergirds the new shape, figure or structure displayed in an authentic work of art, is what is primarily responsible, is the driving motor, for invigorating & bringing to life ALL the materials out of which the work is made (in the case of poetry, words, speech).
So to make a mockery of this dimension is, as I see it, a kind of parasitical attack on the work of poets & poetry itself.
Actually, I believe I accurately described this phenomenon on digital emunction some time back: antipoetry.
Are you trying to steal my idea, Henry
>it all strikes me as especially & consciously ANTI-poetic. It is diametrically opposed to the idea that, in the sphere of art, originality is inherent & necessary.
Henry, sorry, but those notions/assumptions in your last comment are ones largely emerging out of the Romantic period (which still obviously impacts our own– "We're all still Romantics," as Harold Bloom's long claimed).
But there are whole eras of poetry, in our own and in various other cultures, where the notion of "originality" is in no way "inherent or necessary," or where it's had profoundly different meanings than it's had in the West over the last couple centuries. There are whole traditions, in fact, that near outright reject Romantic notions of artistic autonomy. I'm surprised, frankly, that you're making this fairly obvious error.
Not that this has much to do with the matter of our own Conceptualist "moment"…
it all strikes me as especially & consciously ANTI-poetic.
FWIW, the first time I encountered the term "antipoetric" it described Michael Ondaatje's famous "Sweet like a Crow". The term wasn't being used as a pejorative.
It is diametrically opposed to the idea that, in the sphere of art, originality is inherent & necessary.
Fascinating. There is, of course, the cliché collage, typically (but not exclusively) employed with humourous intent.
Also FWIW, Dutch poet Martijn Benders once replicated an entire poem verbatim, changing only its title, to show the importance of context.
by the way, Colin, thanks for that link. Fascinating. Didn't know that case.
The exception that makes the rule?
"anti-poetic", yes, has been a term used in various ways, positive & negative… maybe the most familiar positive example is Nicanor Parra (though I wonder if he would call his trademark "anti-poetry", anti-poetic). I'm using it in a particular way here.
As to your 2nd point : yes, on occasion real poets writing real poetry will parody, echo, maybe even, in unusual cases, "replicate", as you suggest. Much authentic & great poetry is in dialogue & sometimes close revision of what has gone before.
I see this as different from the programmatic rejection (by the "Conceptualists" & their ilk) of the compositional processes of invention & design which result in actual new poetry.
Kent, maybe you could provide an example of some substantial poetry from any era, which is not original, which does not remake its sources into a distinctly new thing.
I missed that, Gary, but I'll gladly withdraw my copyright claim to that term, for what it's worth, in your favor. I'll have my people call your people.
I agree with Henry. Originality — newness — is key. Romanticism implies an ideology of artist-over-art, of individualism and artistic autonomy, and, while we're still very much in an era of Romantic individualism, I can think of many substantial works in which the individual style of the artist is not paramount, and yet the artwork is powerful and original, if only in its original context. Cathedral gargoyles and individual frames of Disney cartoons exhibit terrific skill and craftspersonship but typically try to efface individuality of the artist's style, while contributing to a unique whole made by a collective. Our Romantic ideology is so anxious about this that our culture invented the idea of the auteur in order to create a heroic film artist on which we could project our Romantic fantasies, but films remain a fantastically (usually corporate) collective art form.
Sherrie-Levine-esque moves are hyper-Romantic, all about the uniqueness of the artist's insight, or idea; and even if they're not-very-interesting spins on a Duchampian idea, they aspire to Romantic genius.
Copyright law is over-onerous. Music written 100 years ago by Charles Ives, who died more than 55 years ago, is still under copyright. That's crazy.
Henry, now you're changing the terms! Don't be a sophist. Arguing for "new things" in poetry, new things that are "remade from source materials," is very different from arguing for the poet's individual, vatic "originality" as some kind of sacred first principle. In fact, the idea that poetry is defined by the "remaking of source materials into a new thing" is so catch-all as to be absurd.
Duchamp's shovel was a "new thing." But its relation to the concept of originality, as you are framing the notion, is pretty problematic to say the least.
As to your challenge that I name different attitudes towards "originality," as these manifest in other cultures and times (you seem to feel there is nothing of the sort, that Romantic ontology is all we ever had), well, what can I say? I don't know… Read the Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetry?
Changing the terms? Here's what I said, a few inches to the north from here :
"Originality is the sign of something distinct, unique, and new. This originality of invention, which undergirds the new shape, figure or structure displayed in an authentic work of art, is what is primarily responsible, is the driving motor, for invigorating & bringing to life ALL the materials out of which the work is made (in the case of poetry, words, speech)."
I, for one, don't consider Duchamp's shovel very impressive as a work of art. It's a conceptual stunt, not a new (formal, material) embodiment of a new idea.
& so out of all these eras on either side of Romantic individualism, you can't give me an example of a strong work of art which is not original? Sorry Kent – pretty lame on your part.
>I, for one, don't consider Duchamp's shovel very impressive as a work of art. It's a conceptual stunt, not a new (formal, material) embodiment of a new idea…& so out of all these eras on either side of Romantic individualism, you can't give me an example of a strong work of art which is not original? Sorry Kent – pretty lame on your part.
Duchamp's shovel.
Here you go, Henry, on the topic:
On the necessity for invention, and originality as its expression – full disclosure : my father is a (semi)retired patent attorney.
My brothers & I flew a prototype of the frisbee (from Whammo! Corp., one of my father's clients) in the back yard, about 50 yrs ago.
Thanks for the link, Kent. To replicate myself : I'm not all that impressed by Duchamp's shovel. Maybe it's just me.
So let me ask once more to U.S. poetry's leading advocate of literary "theft," and then I'm out:
Why not post the PDF of "A" on UbuWeb?
Duchamp's shovel *is* original — and very Romanticist in its elevation of the individual artist's signature to being the guarantor of art. One might argue that Duchamp's move critiques the Romantic fetishization of the individual's signature, but the museums, Sherrie Levine (in practice if not in theory), and the art historians agree with my take on it.
When I was a teenager at the Philly Museum (largest repository of Duchampiana), reading the card describing how Duchamp enjoyed spinning the bicycle wheel that he had mounted on a stool, I gave the wheel a spin.
I got in trouble.
So kindly Sir Uncle Kentameter abandones the field once more, with his sweet abject workingman's solidarity tail tucked between his legs… Henry snarling in his quatrain cage…& as silence continues to reign on high, in the exalted American Fox's lair of Professional-Conceptual Hobnobbery…
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Yeah? But it's a shovel. Did Duchamp do any scrimshaw along the handle? I sincerely doubt it.
I like shovels for shoveling; that's a wonderful thing. i have shoveled a great deal in my life, with a regular shovel.
If I had to choose between Duchamp's shovel (& all the baloney shoveled around & about it) or one worn-out cheap waterlogged crumbling paperback by Henry James or [name yr poet]… now there's an objet d'art.
Henry — leave aside aesthetics for a moment, and think about ka-ching ka-ching — investment, yeah yeah yeah. A Duchamp signature is worth a *lot* more than a James ppbk.
Bringing aesthetics back — yes, there's no arguing with one's individual response. Like the old folks say, it's all good.
"Duchamp" would be an *excellent* brand name for a fashion line, on the borderline between fashion and anti-fashion; the Duchamp designers would take any found clothing — Sears clothing, say, take off the labels, put new "Duchamp" labels on, and go to town!
"I like shovels for shoveling"
Good for you! You sound like a regular Joe Six-Plumber. Are you running for president?
& you sound so much like a garden-variety snide poet! Have you ever lifted anything heavier than an hors-d'oeuvres toothpick?
Man…you guys can sure shovel it on.
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I found a bad leak under my house yesterday that appears to have been leaking for a long time now. I was under the house a month or so ago but the leak must have been covered by the insulation. Now the insulation has fallen down and it looks like a nightmare. I had 2 plumbers come out and look at it yesterday and they both said basically the same thing. They will have to cut some sub flooring out just to get the pipe out. It's leaking at the master shower drain pipe
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Ya gotta be able to get To something to fix it...
Sounds like it's either tear up the floor, or dig out the crawl space enough to get in there...
YA, so vats da qvestion????
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Sorry. The crawl space is plenty big enough. I am 6' and can almost stand up under the leak. Question is, what's the worse case scenario here? It's right under a fiberglass shower and the guys coming to work on it said they will use a sawsall and then a chisel when it gets close to the shower so they won't tear that up and cause more expenses. I know there's a away to tell what wood needs to go by poking it with a nail or something but what are the measurements that determine if the wood needs to go? It's just about a4 or 5' section of one support joist that's soaked and covered in Mold/mushrooms and some weird looking bugs. Maybe sistering that section would be good since its the first joist from the wall? I just want some idea of what's going to happen to my house right at Christmas time because of this stupid leak that was supposed to have been fixed 2 years ago but was obviously rigged to not leak long enough for me to close on the house!!
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The biggest problem seems to be how they drilled the hole for that pipe when they built the house. The drilled threw about a quarter of the floor joist and made the hole just big enough to fit the pipe so now its impossible to fix without tearing stuff up. Plumbers said it should have been an easy fix if the builders would have boxed out an area where they drilled the hole for the drain.
Very frustrating!
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You pictures are rough, but it looks like what I would consider to be a situation where a bad condition existed before you bought the house, and they sold it to you unawares. I see foam up there, where somebody tried to stop a leak.
This would be my approach:
1. Put a test plug in the drain pipe. The pipe only.
2. Fill just the drain well with water from a glass. Observe. No Leak?
3. Fill just the pan with water. Observe. No leak?
You see where I am going with this? You work from the bottom up till you find out what is actually leaking. You could have a leak behind the fixture that is running down behind the wall to the floor and it is coming out where there is a hole in the floor. You need to use logical deductive reasoning.
By Using a sawsall on the floor, these guys stand a good chance of punching through the pan. I would use a multi-tool with a half-moon blade. on the floor below the pan.
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Is the leak at the drain itself or the pipe?
Thats what remains to be seen, the origin of the leak. If he does what I say, work from the outlet up he can find out. It wont hurt to remove the bad stuff so he can see what hes got though. He should jack that joist on each side, put in a header across joists on each side, and open up under the pan, I agree.
If it matters :laughing:
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Both plumbers seem to know the source of the leak and i think it's from a gap between the pipe and where it meets the shower floor. Not 100% on that but I do know both plumbers saw the source pretty quickly. They just can't get to it easily to fix it the right way. I have one of those oscillating tools that I might see if they want to use instead if the sawsall.
Is the PVC your drain or the water pipe?
Is there any rear access to the wall?
(Makes me glad I did copper for all of my water pipes)
Post a picture of the shower pan, and a close up of the drain from the top.
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What is the shower pan? Is that the water trap under the house?
Looks like its all PVC which one plumber said wasn't a good idea either for a not so old house.
In many cases there is a fiberglass shower pan at the bottom of your shower stall. There is a metal well into which a rubber doughnut is pressed around the pipe, in your case DWV PVC. If your shwer pan was made of lead, or some type of membrane, your drain has to have a flanged top and a compression ring to seal the lead or the membrane. Thats why I asked fot a closeup picture from the top. Pictures really help those trying to help you. You posted one picture of what appears to be the drain outlet from your shower pan. There is no trap shown here, where there should be one, but maybe they installed a running trap? We need pictures. One thing is for sure, whoever did this work is questionable at best. I gave you leak test instructions above, did you ever try them? This pan could be leaking from anywhere, you have to start at the lowest point and work your way up.
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Plumbers just finished up and were able to cut out the old pipe and put in a new one. He said that with my kind of shower the floor tends to drop with weight just a little and it pulls the drain away from the pipe. My shower did not have anything to compensate for this so he put a rubber bumper or something between the 2. He explained it and it made since to me. He also said that the wood didn't seem to be to rotted but wants to let it all dry out good so it will be easier to tell. It appears to not have been as bad as everyone thought. I'm going to put a fan down there for a while to help it dry.
He also said to go under there while my wife is in the shower to look for leaks and to give him a call if it happens to still leak with weight in the shower.
EDIT: Just saw your post above and it seems we are talking about the same thing. Lol. I didn't know the names for everything though.
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Also, there is a trap. It's just beyond what you can see in the picture.
Thanks for all the replies. That's why I love these forums! I will keep you posted if it still leaks
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In the article it said he was already released from jail & not charged as of today.How very sad. This cat is just beautiful. I hope that Ophelia finds a loving home-she certainly deserves it. Shame on people who abuse animals. I hope that he sits in jail for awhile to think about what he has done.
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There are 97 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 6, 2010, titled Cat thrown after death threat on Facebook needs a home. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:The cat Ophelia, pictured before her injury in St. Paul on Saturday. About two hours before police were called to Reece Donahue's apartment, a message appeared on his Facebook page: "1 kitty is going to die tonight!" When police arrived, they found the cat cowering in a living-room closet after Donahue allegedly threw her against the ceiling of his ...
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#94 Dec 7, 2010
To me the scary thing is that this guy might be a father one day. I hate thinking that one day his baby might cry too much that the guy would take his baby and throw him/her against the wall. Babies have ended up brain-damaged or dead from parents like this.
#95 Dec 7, 2010
There is a very special place in H E Double hockey sticks for that guy.
I called to see if I could adopt her but she needs to be an only cat in the house, other wise I'd be picking her up once she is ready!
Someone please give her a forever home. She deserves it.
#96 Dec 7, 2010
I was struck by how in so many comments the hostility was directed at the person -- who had acted in a cruel way that deserves negative consequences and who is 'big enough' to fend for himself -- and was not just a bunch of vicious and gratuitous cat-hating comments. Personally I thought it was refreshing to see that the anger was directed where it belongs.
#97 Dec 7, 2010
This guys deserves to lose his drivers license. He is obviously an alcoholic and he should be treated as such. Or let Bubba throw him against the wall a couple times.
#98 Dec 7, 2010
psychopaths and sociopaths shouldn't have animals, and definitely should not be allowed to reproduce children . his biological child will likely be victimized by him in this manner in the future, if this man is not neutered. paid voluntary sterilization, snip snip
#99 Dec 7, 2010
"who cares" sounds like a sociopath / psychopath also, very dangerous to society, and even more dangerous serving in our military. no empathy for their victims that they brutally torture, including women and children.
#100 Dec 7, 2010
You'd make a great profiler. Stick to wiping tables.
Saint Paul, MN
#101 Dec 7, 2010
You are wrong; people like Donhue start out by torturing small, helpless creatures and move on to raping, child molesting, and/or serial killing. Prison IS the right place for him to be contained before he does something like this to a human.
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#102 Dec 7, 2010
Ok Sweetie, clue me in here. I ran across some of "your" posts a couple of weeks ago that sounded nothing like you and I was wondering what was up. Sooooooo it wasn't you? I should have known. No where near the dry sense of humor we've all grown to love :)))))
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#103 Dec 7, 2010
Ladies, lets band together to make sure this cretin NEVER gets laid again, as long as he lives.
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#104 Dec 7, 2010
He should be thrown into the ceiling. Worthless piece of crap, taking is cowardly issues out on a helpless animal.
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#105 Dec 7, 2010
I'd rather kill you and "move on," you parasite. Deal?
#106 Dec 8, 2010
I would love to meet this girl one day
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That cat deserved a "forever" home before he got his hands on her. It's weird how no one will adopt certain animals then something tragic like this happens to them & all of a sudden people come out of the woodwork. A puppy is thrown out of a car window & people are scrambling to adopt it. The Humane Society would have a pretty good turnover if they just made up tragic stories for all of their animals. Just thinking out loud....
#109 Dec 9, 2010
This waste of a human life obviously belongs in prison before he harms any other animals or people - you know that if he's done this once, he's done it before and will do it again. Put him away in prison and let the other offenders he's with take care of him ... he thinks he's such a big shot harming a poor defenseless animal.
I'd be more than happy to take Ophelia in with me and my other kitties ... she'd be loved and well taken care of. I already have one little kitty that's been harmed by others before my taking her in - she's doing great now, just doesn't care to be handled as much as the others. PLEASE DO NOT waste Ophelia's life by putting her down, please give her to me before such a thing is done.
Fido ... you can go to the same evil place that Reece the piece is going to ... obviously you don't have anyone that cares for you :(
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#110 Dec 13, 2010
let me throw his ass in a wall
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Ai Weiwei, "Forge"
Mary Boone Gallery, through Dec 21
The Chinese artist and activist occupies both of this gallery's locations, in Chelsea and on Fifth Avenue, with new works. Downtown, the highlight is an installation made of twisted steel rebar salvaged from schools in Sichuan, China, that collapsed during the May 2008 earthquake due to shoddy construction (a fact covered up by the Chinese government). The space uptown, meanwhile, presents an installation of 2,500 porcelain crabs, a reference to a rally the artist held to protest the government's demolition of his Shanghai studio (supporters were treated to a feast of 10,000 crabs).
Phyllida Barlow, "…later"
Hauser & Wirth, through Dec 22
Having worked for nearly four decades, this British artist is finally coming into her own, with a recent show at the New Museum, and now this solo outing at Hauser & Wirth. On tap are her oddly engaging sculptures, which not only evoke the built environments of urban life in a way that seems both colossal and funky, but are also often made with construction detritus.
Judy Fox, "Out of Water"
P.P.O.W. Gallery, through Dec 15
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"Jean Arp, a Collection of Wood Reliefs and Collages"
Blain Di Donna, through Dec 11
Arp (1886–1966), a key figure of 20th-century modern art whose biomorphic shapes bridged the worlds of Dada and Surrealism, is represented here by works on paper and a series of sculptural reliefs in wood—many previously unseen in New York.
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The Metropolitan Museum of Art, through Jan 6
Baroque sculptor Gian Lorenzo Bernini (1598–1680) stands apart from his 17th-century contemporaries for his role as official artist of the Catholic Counter-Reformation, producing dramatic statues and church architecture that exalted the power of the Vatican, such as Ecstasy of Saint Teresa (1647–1652) and the colonnade around St. Peter's Square. This show looks at his working methods by presenting preparatory drawings and small, fired-clay models that were the first steps in creating his monumental commissions.
Melvin Edwards
Alexander Gray Associates, through Dec 15
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"Huma Bhabha: Unnatural Histories"
MoMA PS1, through Apr 1
Bhabha's figurative sculptures—cobbled out of clay and chicken wire, as well as such found detritus as animal bones and Styrofoam—meld the totemic and the grotesque into a kind of postapocalyptic tribal art. A sampling of her peculiar brand of nihilistic neoprimitivism is on view here.
Henry Moore, "Late Large Forms"
Gagosian Gallery, through Jan 5
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Edward Kienholz
Pace Gallery, through Dec 22
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It started back on Out of The Office when TheTundraPa commented that she didn't socialize with her depressed patients--too needy and I suppose they aren't good company. This didn't sit so well with Neonursechic who responded, "Just made me feel like because I have depression, then nobody wants to be friends with me -" Sarebear, too, feels her mental illness interferes with her ability to make friends. Please forgive me if I misinterpreted anyone, and hey, that's what the comment section is for.
Then we move along to the posts on Whining, and my esteemed co-blogger Roy confesses that his wife thinks he has ADD because he leaves household projects unfinished, he denies the diagnosis, and like a good friend, I pipe in with the unsolicited opinion, based on nearly a decade of observation in a variety of settings, but no formal psychiatric evaluation, that Roy does not have ADD, that his office is a mess because he is a Slob. Off blog, he told me he'd rather have ADD than be a slob, and back on blog, he's now commenting about whether Slob will be in DSM-5 and can it be labeled Messiness, NOS.
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For Roy, I'm left perplexed that he would want a psychiatric diagnosis, a damaged brain that would impair his ability to function. He wants to opt out of responsibility for his behavior, be able to drop those dirty sock anywhere and have an excuse. If a diagnosis doesn't exist, damn it, he'll make one. Might I suggest that as long as I don't have to live with Roy, that it's fine if he's a Slob? A certain degree of neatness is expected in the little box, and if one chooses to be sloppy, perhaps that's fine. He's rationalized it all away (too busy to be bothered), so why does he need a now socially-sanctioned diagnosis to relieve him of responsibility for a behavior he admits he's chosen?
It is estimated that over 26% of people suffer from a psychiatric disorder in any given year, the
lifetime prevalence is much higher. If TheTundraPa is able to avoid friendships with people with depression, or any other mental illness, my best guess is that this may be a function of under-diagnosis and treatment out there on the Alaskan tundra, it seems to me that all one has to do to find people with mental illnesses is to look-- or to mention at a party that you're a psychiatrist. While people with Axis I diagnoses may have periods where they are less interested in friendships or less available to participate in friendships, the mere existence of a psychiatric diagnosis doesn't chase people away-- in fact, when people advertise their diagnosis they often serve as magnets for others who are suffering from the same problems and are thrilled to find someone who understands. I'll requote Shiny Happy Person (see the whining post for her link): "Having a mental illness deprives you of the right to be a weirdo." I'll add to that magnificent thought: Perhaps having a mental illness deprives you of the right to be a slob, or to be an unlikeable person, but I don't think so.


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