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I don't know why this film is virtually unknown. For its time it must have
been very controversial and even today it still packs a wallop of a punch.
But I am as equally impressed by the style of this film as I am with the
performances and the screenplay. Fans of THE TWILIGHT ZONE will feel right
at home with the stark B&W stylization of the dream sequences and the
childhood flashbacks. Yet like any great film, it doesn't let its style
overwhelm the viewer. It simply acts as a springboard from which it can
stun the viewer with the emotional impact of the story. It takes a lot to
shock me, yet the flashbacks of the patient's childhood (especially one
terrifying scene in a meat hanger that reminded me of the father-son
relationship in PEEPING TOM) chilled me with its honest portrayal of
childhood terror and helplessness. The other aspect of this film that
intrigued me was the whole analytical forum of intellectual cat-and-mouse
between patient and doctor. Realistically, an adult black man in the 1940s
would have built up a shield to fend off the kinds of brutal statements made
by his patient. But the patient's high intelligence throws Poitier off
guard. He makes Poitier confront the injustices and indignities present in
the country that he is so vigorously defending, thus he makes him confront
his own anger and contempt. He makes Poitier an ally in anger, and that
would throw anyone off balance. I also want to congratulate the film for
its honest portrayals of terror and humiliation. An abusive game of
tic-tac-toe in the hands of another director and actor would have come off
as silly, but here it is startling and chilling. I don't know why Bobby
Darin didn't continue his career with more dramatic performances like this
but I'm grateful that this one is out there on video. It's one of the best
performances that I've seen by an actor in anything!
One of the pioneering films of the early sixties, allowing for more freedom of the screen in terms of both subject matter and style, still waits to be rediscovered. It's Pressure Point, which almost - but not quite - made a fullblown movie star out of Bobby Darin. He had always hoped to be the next Sinatra not only in terms of singing but also acting, and he had the chops for each - though timing was against him as the Beatle invasion dimmed interest in American pop stars. Still, he did appear in about a dozen films, none more remarkable than this study of a psychiatrist (Sidney Poitier) analyzing a Neo-Nazi patient (Darin). Originally, producer Stanley Kramer (who wisely chose not to direct, something he wasn't all that good at) had planned to use a nordic-Anglo type for the patient, someone like the young Robert Redford perhaps, until Darin read for the role and blew everyone away. Though Darin was definitely mostly Italian, and probably part Jewish, and therefore very ethnic looking himself, he left the producer stunned with the intensity of his performance. When the film failed at the box-office, that helped to spell an end to his hoped for movie star career; also, Darin was so convincingly unpleasant that it was hard to take him as a light leading man in comedies with Sandra Dee after seeing him so hard-edged - unforgettably so - here. Poitier is quietly effective, and there's a nice cameo by Peter Falk as a boyish (?!) young psychiatrist who, years later, confers with the elderly Poitier and is told this strange story. Though much of the film is grimly realistic in the black and white style so popular at the time, Darin's dream sequences while under analysis are all surrealistically rendered and highly effective. And while there had been civil rights films made throughout the 1950s, none had ever been quite so daring as this. Here's a lost classic worth rediscovering.
Splendidly acted social drama produced by Stanley Kramer. As is usually
case with Kramer productions (except perhaps "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad
World"), "Pressure Point" looks at society and the human condition,
much to admire, but also much to deplore. Sidney Poitier is on the side
righteousness, playing a black prison psychiatrist whose ideals are
challenged by his patient, a bigoted Nazi played by singer Bobby Darin.
The film is most impressive for its refusal to pander to an audience whose enjoyment might be enhanced if all the conflicts between the protagonists were resolved at the conclusion, but "Pressure Point" does not compromise its own integrity by pretending to provide easy answers to the questions it raises. Doctor and patient do not reach an understanding-- they do not embrace each other at the end, nor does the film suggest that society has benefitted from the encounter between two such disparate souls. Life simply goes on, and so do its troubles. "Pressure Point" makes its point subtly without a lot of sanctimonious preaching, and is more effective as a result.
The two stars are well matched with Poitier bringing his usual humanity and quiet pride to a role that does not place as much emphasis on his skin color as one would expect in a 1962 production. Darin is simply superb as Poitier's patient, and one can't help but admire the popular crooner for having had the courage to inhabit such an unappealing character at a time when he was still one of pop music's most prominent "teen idols" (and husband of America's sweetheart, Sandra Dee). The cinematography, music, and direction (by Hubert Cornfield) match the performances perfectly.
As a kid, I never failed to catch this movie when it was on TV. Bobby D. steals the show as a nazi punk with big time mental problems. He played a similar role in" Captain Newman, M.D." but this one had more meat to it.The boy actor who played Bobby D. as a child is Barry Gordon. There is an interesting Jack Benny connection here. In a 1961 Jack Benny Show, Jack was casting a TV special about his life story. A little boy comes in to audition and Jack is pleased that his parents aren't with him probably because he can get the kid for less money.Then the boy actor's "agent" (Barry Gordon) storms in and makes demands on the surprised Benny. Jack immediately signs up Barry to play him as a child instead of the kid actor. Little Barry wowed the studio audience with a letter- perfect imitation of Benny's famous"Well!" complete with black suit and tie and eyeglasses. A few years later Benny did an episode where he was casting a movie about his life and Bobby D. was the guest star. This time Jack wanted Bobby to play him as a young man! It should also be noted that James Anderson who plays Barry/Bobby's sadistic butcher father in "Pressure Point" is the same actor who played the sadistic racist father in "To KIll a Mockingbird" which like "Captain Newman, M.D." featured a young actor called Robert Duvall as a catatonic.Mr. Anderson was always excellent in a malevolent role. Downright menacing I'd say. If Bobby had lived he might have tied Sinatra in the "legendary all-around entertainer" category.
Bobby Darin has earned my utmost respect.
I've heard "Mack the Knife" and other snappy songs by him, but I only recently realized that he was an actor as well. I'll admit that this was not a rented movie or something I sought out, just one that I caught from the classic channel, but it was from beginning to end, no commercials or cuts and I cannot express how much admiration I have for Bobby Darin. He came from a weird life (a life only Jack Nicholson could relate to) and add to that a disease that shortened it, but Bobby Darin made his time around one to be remembered. This man's performance in 'Pressure Point' stunned me.
Darin plays a man who's childhood was not one to be envious of. This man's life became even less envious, because the story takes place inside a prison where he is a convict. Sidney Poitier plays the prisons psychiatrist and Darin is sent to him because he cannot sleep due to anxiety. Poitier's character has a hard time with Darin's due to the fact that he is extremely racist (a Nazi even) and is continually treating Poitier as though he understands how he feels is wrong but doesn't care (that is the attitude that I got from it). That he knows everything he feels is based on a lie but he simply does not care...it allows him to be violent and hateful and that is why he does what he does. It's pretty scary and even though sometime you think, "goodness, I hate that sometimes what Darin's character is saying makes a little sense, what in the world is Poitier going to say to that?", that's when the doctor sets him straight.
I am a pretty emotional person and this movie really knows how to pull at them, even for an older movie, it has its 'I can't believe he said that' moments, but it was very impressive for Bobby and Sidney to do a movie with such a point, when others at the time were doing such cheesy things.
Pressure Point is a taught drama that pits a Nazi prisoner against an black
psychiatrist. The story, its presentation and direction are remarkably
ahead of their time, and present an object lesson in good cinema that might
have saved us such unfortunate and forgettable pretension as Memento if only
people bothered studying cinema before inflicting their version of it on the
moviegoing public.
Bobby Darin plays the charismatic young man who is imprisoned during WWII for Nazi activities in the U.S. Poitier is riveting as the doctor who treats him for insomnia, but discovers pathologies many times more horrifying. If you're looking to see this timeless conflict wrapped up neatly at the end or overinflated with empty gimickry, be warned. It doesn't happen. Thank goodness. Instead we see a very real ending that explains why events like the World Trade Center tragedy can still happen today.
A lot of great films; Prince of Tides, Silence of the Lambs, The Cell and many others owe their existence to such brilliant antecedents.
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This film in 1962 was quite controversial. Even having an
African-American as a sole lead of a film was quite rare and often
worrisome to film studios concerned about making money. Sadly this is
still an issue amongst film studios today. If you can't get Denzel
Washington many films that would star a black character are shelved.
Case in point, a few years back Spike Lee was trying to do a film based
on Jackie Robinson, because he couldn't get Denzel, the film was
temporarily shelved. Sydney Poitier was the lone black film star of the
time. Sadly in the late 60's people would brand him an "Uncle Tom" who
played the game of white society, but films like this and In the Heat
of the Night among others must have been overlooked by his accusers.
"Pressure Point" is a powerful exploration into the circumstances that bring about race prejudice. I don't want to give away any of the rich turns and curves of this deep and exciting story that is filled with twist and turns. Mr. Poitier plays as a prison psychiatrist who is assigned to treat Bobby Darin who plays a mentally disturbed racist. These two bring vivid and truthful life to their disparate characters.
This film is compelling and sometimes hard to watch even today, but it is worth your time to check it out. Writer/Director Hubert Cornfield does a great job in telling this story and allowing these two actors and the rest of the cast to do work as a great ensemble.
A word about Bobby Darin. He was an excellent actor, very underrated and quite capable of working in comedy and drama. He accomplishes the very, very difficult act of allowing the audience to feel sympathy for an awful human being, a true lost soul, full of pain to the point of almost extinguishing his own humanity. Quite an accomplishment for the teen idol and singer. He had a life-long dream of eclipsing his idol Frank Sinatra as both a singer and actor. It would be splitting hairs to debate that, but no doubt the kid from Brooklyn gave "Old Blue Eyes" a run for his money. Too bad we lost him so soon.
I wish that Hubert Cornfield, this film's director, had directed more films. I have seen this one and three others ("Plunder Road", "Lure of the Swamp" and "Night of the Following Day") and they all bear the stamp of a unique and very idiosyncratic vision. The flashback scenes of Bobby Darin's character in this film are truly unique and often quite disturbing, recalling Bunuel and Cocteau in their oneiric intensity. Definitely worth checking out if you are into offbeat and skewed cinema.
Bobby Darin gives the performance of his career in this excellent if virtually unknown film. He is 100% believable as an American Nazi who tries to play psychiatrist Poitier like a violin with some success. Poitier is equally marvelous as the psychiatrist who must work extremely hard to take himself out of the process so he can concentrate on helping his patient. I was on the edge of my seat from beginning to end by both actors' incredibly sexy performances. Peter Falk is excellent in the small role of Poitier's young protege.
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It's 1942. Sidney Poitier is a psychiatrist at a federal prison who
takes on Bobby Darin as a patient. Darrin, a racist and a member of the
German-American Bund, is in the slams for advocating the overthrow of
the government.
Darrin, however, has no interest in having his head shrunk. It's just that he can't sleep and wants some pills to help him out. No dice, though. Poitier elicits from Darrin the personal history of a "psychopath," raised by a sadistic father and a clinging, seductive mother.
These scenes are shown in flashbacks in which Darrin is played by another actor, a boy of about ten or eleven. (Man, is that kid ugly.) The child soon sees that the only road to satisfaction and self esteem lies in having the kind of power that derives from a charismatic leader. The leader that Darrin chooses is you-know-who. The power is exercised over minorities like Jews and Negroes.
It doesn't end happily. Darrin is released over Poitier's objections and later gets into terminal trouble.
Robert Lindner was a psychiatrist who wrote the best-selling "The Fifty-Minute Hour" about a dozen or so of his cases, and this story is based on one of them. Lindner's approach was typical of the times. A patient's problems were rooted in childhood experiences and exacerbated by adult experiences. The drive for power was only compensating for internal feelings of weakness, the subconscious dread had to be brought to light, and so forth and so on. I won't criticize this psychoanalytic approach but it's pretty much discredited today.
Bobby Darrin does a decent job as the patient. He's far from stereotypically stupid, a bright guy in fact, if uneducated. He'd been a psychiatric patient before, in "Captain Newman, M.D.", and gave a shattering performance in at least one scene. And he may be just about right for this part -- small, a little chubby, and repugnant. (He may have been plumped out because of congestive heart failure.) Poitier is the soul of reason and restraint. He looks right and he never steps wrong. He can make even the most stilted lines of dialog sing. He was probably one of the best dramatic actors of his time in Hollywood. Comedy was outside his range.
I felt -- seeing this for only the second time since its original release -- that there were four weaknesses undermining the film's strengths. One was the direction. Too many close ups, for one thing, of Poitier's sweating face and Darrin's over-sized schnozzola. And the constant switching around of identities during Darrin's tale telling was confusing. Sometimes it's not Darrin in Poitier's office. It's that ugly kid. And sometimes the kid's voice issues from Darrin's mouth, or his MOTHER's voice. Good scene, though, when Dad, James Anderson, shoves a piece of liver in the boy's horrified face.
Didn't care for the musical score either. Weird and intrusive. Art direction looked as if it had been executed on an almost infinitesimally tiny budget, almost at the level of my annual income. The city, the store fronts, the brownstone apartments, looked like cheap outdoor sets. The interiors were spare boxes, mostly empty. Nothing seemed cluttered or lived in. And when Darrin is selling apples on a street corner during the depression, it's supposed to be mid-winter and he doesn't look cold -- and he's just had a nice close shave.
The fourth, somewhat bothersome element was the script itself. I understand that what has appeared in print needs some cosmetic surgery before it can be presented on screen. Events must be squashed together, or excised, or rearranged, or simplified. But simplification shades into oversimplification. Example: Darrin has had only one "meaningful relationship" with a girl. She's pretty too. She buys all his apples and then invites him into her home. It's a nice home, everything Darrin yearns for, but the girl's father throws him out as an unworthy suitor, and the family is Jewish. Thereafter, Bobby Darrin hates Jews. Well, I mean -- really. He's been a little slow on the uptake all along, having failed to notice the mezuzzah on the door jamb or the mogen David around her neck.
I'd like to be able to say that the film's message -- and, boy, is there a message -- is out dated because you have to look under boards to find anti-Semites today, but I can't. Oh, we don't have the German-American Bund or Father Coughlin anymore, and the KKK seems dormant for the moment. The voices of the right are more political than racist, but we still have Evangelicals who believe only they will be saved when The Rapture arrives, while Jews and Muslims and everybody else will go straight to hell. And every once in a while there is an outbreak of anti-Semitic vandalism, not just here but around the world, even in places we prefer to think of as enlightened.
It's an interesting story but it's also a misleading story. I don't want to get technical but a major effort was made sixty years ago to find proto-Fascists in California (Adorno et al, if you want to look it up) and the high-scoring subjects weren't psychopaths at all but little old ladies and retired dock workers. A similar study in a Texas city found that authoritarian personalities were affable community leaders who had risen to the top by conforming to the values of the people they grew up with. In other words, Fascism doesn't come only from psychopathology. It comes from some as-yet-unidentified social wellspring.
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For some background and additional reading on the debacles that occur when government intrudes into health care decision making click on the 'health insurance' topics in this blog.
At the 2010 Legislative Conference for National Association of Counties, Nancy Pelosi made her now famous remarks
You've heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don't know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention -- it's about diet, not diabetes. It's going to be very, very exciting. But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.Well we passed the bill and still nearly two years later we are waiting to find out what is in it.
The November 14th edition of OT Practice included an article by Jennifer Hitchon who is AOTA's regulatory counsel. Her article neatly summarizes the recently released Institute of Medicine report Essential Health Benefits: Balancing Coverage and Cost. The purpose of the IOM report was to survey stakeholders (aka insurance companies) about what products and services were deemed 'essential.' In other words - what is the bare minimum that these insurance companies are covering?
Now this is where I start to scratch my head a little - because the government determines that we need a new law to replace/supplement the 'evil profiteering health insurance companies' with government sponsored 'exchanges.' So, the government commissions the IOM to study the issue and the results of the study will go to the policy wonks who write the actual regulations that dictate what is in it. So then the IOM goes and asks the 'evil profiteering insurance companies' for their input so they can tell the policy wonks how to write better regulations than what is currently being done... oh... um.... hm.......
The IOM is non-governmental and advisory to the government and normally the IOM is a source to have faith in - but why survey/invite the fox to the hen house to determine what benefits should be considered 'essential?' I understand that the charge to the IOM was to come up with some package that was 'comparable' to what is being offered by most small business insurance plans - but how is the Affordable Care Act going to improve anything if all we do is base decisions on the cheapest available plans being offered by some small company that is already being squeezed by costs and is now choosing bargain basement health plans for its employees.
The lack of percipience into this issue is stunning, even for a government.
For fun I searched the IOM report for mentions of occupational therapy - you can view the mentions here. Most of the mentions relate to various inclusion/exclusion criteria of selected insurance plans.
The study includes some interesting statements that essential benefits should be medically oriented and not social or educational - which has rather large potential impact on all of pediatric occupational therapy practice. This same issue is being fought out state by state regarding insurance coverage for autism interventions and it will be interesting to see what the federal government does with the issue. I am curious how there will be reconciliation between exchange mandates and statutory requirements that have been written into state law about this coverage.
There are other notable exclusion points in the document related to some chronic conditions like intellectual disabilities and low vision. There is enough controversy for all. This doesn't mean that these will be automatically removed from 'essential' coverage determinations - but this all represents writing on the wall that people need to attend to.
Occupational therapists need to be watching this issue closely. Actually, the entire American public needs to watch this closely - but the complexities are beyond what many people have time or energy to follow, track, and decipher.
I encourage professional associations like AOTA to continue publishing about this issue as events unfold. However, we need straight analysis and not generic 'we will provide formal comments when the opportunity arises.' Practitioners and the public need to know the following:
- The government may plan to model their exchange off of the cheapest possible plan that is offered by a small business.
- Habilitation services could be on the proverbial chopping block, particularly if they can be labeled as 'educational' or 'social'
- The plan may cover things like if your eyeballs fall out of your head, because that is a medical problem. However, if you need therapy or equipment to help you function you might be out of luck because that would be a personal problem and not a medical problem.
Many professional groups (MDs, etc.) are getting out IN FRONT of these issues by publishing position papers about what needs to be covered and why. The OT community needs to do more than simply respond during the comment period. AOTA needs to publish similar position papers about including a wide range of OT services in the act and increase visibility and lobbying about these issues. Practitioners have to start by educating themselves on what they are actually facing.
For the record, I would not characterize this as very exciting. I think it may be the largest boondoggle ever perpetrated on the American public.


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DURHAM, N.H. - North Carolina finished seventh at the East Atlantic Gymnastics League championships (EAGL) Saturday afternoon scoring a 194.150, just .025 behind sixth place Pittsburgh. Host New Hampshire captured the conference title with a score of 196.375. Maryland was second, followed by Rutgers, NC State and George Washington.
"We're disappointed, but I'm proud of our team," said head coach Derek Galvin. "We faced some adverstity this year with some key injuries and we were so close to finishing ahead of Pittsburgh. We've got some work to do, but I want to make sure we acknowledge the accomplishments of our seniors Meredith Magjuka and Michelle Ikoma. They had outstanding careers and have been tremendous representatives for the University of North Carolina."
Magjuka, a five-time EAGL All-Academic Team member, closed out her Carolina career with a a career-best 9.875 on floor exercise to place fourth.
"It was a great way to end her career and I could not be more proud of her performance," said Galvin.
Ikoma, a finalist for the Arthur Ashe Award, had a 9.650 on vault and a 9.700 on the uneven bars.
The Tar Heels began the meet on balance beam and immediately put themselves in a deficit, counting a fall and scoring 47.975. Janell Sargent posted a 9.850 to lead the team and earn first-team All-EAGL Tournament honors. Sarah Peterson followed with a 9.725 and Lexi Cappalli added a 9.625.
Carolina rebounded on floor exercise, posting its highest score of the season on the apparatus with a 49.100. Magjuka's 9.875 lead the team, followed by Cappalli and Haley Watts both with a 9.825. Freshman Christin Pheil recorded a 9.800.
On the uneven bars, Carolina scored a 48.725 led by Watts' 9.850 and Cappalli's 9.825. Watts earned first-team All-EAGL Tournament honors, and Cappalli was a second-team performer.
The Tar Heels had a solid performance on the vault with a 48.350 to close the meet.
Cappalli (38.950) and Watts (38.575) earned All-EAGL Tournament honors in the all-around.
Competing with the smallest roster in the EAGL and one of the smallest in the country, Carolina struggled down the stretch in 2014 and will miss the NCAA regionals for the first time in 12 seasons. The Tar Heeis will wait to hear the fate of any individual invitations on Monday.


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It is an unfortunate truth that many mental illness patients won't take their medications at one time or another. This is known as treatment noncompliance or treatment nonadherence, if you want to be a bit more politically correct.
And also unfortunate is the fact that when a person with a mental illness refuses to take their medication they almost inexorably get sicker. People with bipolar disorder who won't take their medication, for example, often become manic and then wind up hurting themselves or someone else and end up in the hospital. And watching this happen, as a loved one, is extremely painful.
So is there anything you can do when a person refuses to take their medication? Is there anything you can do about treatment noncompliance?
Why Does a Person Refuse to Take Their Medication?
I think the most important question to ask is why is the person refusing to take their medication. The answer to that really dictates what to do next.
There are really three reasons mental illness patients are noncompliant.
- The medication isn't working and their illness convinces them to go off their medication.
- Their medication is working but the side effects are intolerable.
- Their medication is working, they're experiencing wellness and so they think they no longer need their medication.
Read more: http://natashatracy.com/mental-illness-issues/refuses-medication-treatment-noncompliance/
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When you borrow from your own retirement savings, you are making a loan to yourself. You will still have to pay interest on that loan. If you fail to pay back the principal, you will owe income tax on the loan plus a 10% early withdrawal penalty. Most plans allow you to pay back the loan on a 5 year amortization with no prepayment penalty. Ideally, one can set up automatic withdrawals to ensure that the loan is paid off with regular payments. Another idea is to have your employer direct a portion of your pay check to this account via direct deposit. Each 401k plan has rules regarding loans and you should consult your plan administrator if you are considering this option.
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Flexibility. You can repay the loan on your own terms without having to consider minimum payments or penalties for prepayment or late payments.
Minimal fees. Unlike most other loans, you will not have to pay huge fees to borrow from your 401k plan. There may be an origination charge.
Interest is paid to yourself. Even if you were to receive a low interest rate from a third party, they would still retain the interest. When you loan money to yourself, you are both the lender and the borrower. Any interest you pay will go back to your own account.
Drawbacks of Borrowing From Your 401k Plan
You stop saving money. By borrowing money from yourself, you are no longer saving money for retirement, you are merely trying to get back to where you started.
You are not earning tax free interest. Yes, you are paying yourself interest, but your are doing so from your after tax income. If you had not taken the loan, you would still be earning a return on your pre-tax savings and your continuing contributions.
You are taking a risk with your retirement. The reason you need a loan is because of serious shortage of funds. Given your present circumstance, it is even more likely that you will have a similar problem when it comes time to paying yourself back. Failing to do so will severely set back your retirement savings.
When It Can Make Sense To Borrow From Your 401k
While it almost always a bad idea to borrow from your 401k plan, it is possible to construct a scenario where this option might make sense. If any of the following conditions apply to your situation, borrowing from your 401k may be worth considering.
You need a short term loan. The quicker you pay back your loan, the less damage you will due to your retirement savings.
You have an extremely serious need. No one should ever consider borrowing from their 401k to fund anything other than their most urgent expenses.
You are unable to obtain a loan from any other source. You should exhaust all other potential sources of money before dipping into your 401k, even if it is only a loan.
The ability to borrow from your 401k is kind of like an accident insurance policy that covers dismemberment; it is an obscure benefit that few ever use and that you hope you will never need. That said, you can file this option deep in the back of your mind, just in case you have no other alternatives. Your retirement plan exists for only one reason, to ensure your future financial security. To ensure that it will be there when you need it, do not make the mistake of taking out a loan for anything short of the most dire circumstance.
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Until very recently, almost everyone believed scientific progress has been held back by religion. But today's historians have realized that, if anything, the popular perception is the opposite of the truth. It seems that Christianity has probably had a net beneficial effect on the rise of science. And surprisingly, recent research has revealed that almost everything that people think they know about the history of science and religion--the mythology of its many conflicts--is untrue or, at the very least, highly misleading.
The most egregious example is the idea that the Church in the Middle Ages taught that the earth is flat. This is simply false. In fact, medieval textbooks, sermons, and illustrations repeatedly make the point that the earth is round. The orb presented to medieval kings as a symbol of their power represented the earth, as everyone was aware that our planet is spherical. Even in the midst of the so-called 'dark ages,' St. Isidore of Seville and St. Bede of Jarrow knew perfectly well that the earth is not flat.
Of course, this means that Columbus did not actually prove the sphericity of the earth when he discovered America. In fact, Columbus's search for a route to Asia only makes sense on the supposition that the earth is spherical. At issue in the 1490s was not the shape but the circumference of the earth. His sailors were not worried about sailing "off the edge" of the world; they were concerned about starving in the vastness of the uncharted ocean.
The myth that people in the Middle Ages thought the earth is flat appears to date from the 17th century as part of the campaign by Protestants against Catholic teaching. But it gained currency in the 19th century, thanks to inaccurate histories such as John William Draper's History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science (1874) and Andrew Dickson White's History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom (1896). Atheists and agnostics championed the conflict thesis for their own purposes, but historical research gradually demonstrated that Draper and White had propagated more fantasy than fact in their efforts to prove that science and religion are locked in eternal conflict.
For example, White and Draper claimed that the Church attempted to ban human dissection. This practice has been essential to understanding the human body and training doctors. But almost all societies have forbidden it; it was not allowed in ancient Greece or Rome, nor under Islamic rule. Dissecting corpses first started in 13th-century Italy and quickly became established in the medical schools there. As historian Edward Grant has noted, the remarkable fact is that this happened with barely a whimper of objection from the Church, even though taboos against cutting up corpses are almost universal among human societies.
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Saloon in Somerville's Davis Square will host their second annual four-course Mezcal Tasting Dinner on January 14th, 2014 at 6:30PM. Beverage Director, Manny Gonzales and Executive Chef Jonathan Schick have worked together to hand pick superior Mezcals, paired with Mexican-inspired dishes for the enjoyment of curious diners.
Guests will ring in the New Year with a wealth of new knowledge at Saloon's four-course Mezcal Tasting dinner. The evening will include a tasting of four unique Mezcals served alongside four Oaxacan small plate pairings. Throughout the dinner, Gonzales will be educating guests on the subtleties and history of tequila's elegant great, great grandfather—served neat.
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First Course: Frisée with a light tarragon and citric dressing
Fidencio "Sin Humo," a bright and earthy mezcal with soft citric notes
Second Course: Arroz con Langosta with corn, vanilla and chili
Piedras Almas" Espadin," a medium body mezcal with subtle vanilla and berry aromas
Third Course: Steamed Carnitas Empanadas
Fidencio "Tobala," a deep and earthy mezcal with a starchy, viscous finish
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Piedras Almas "Pechuga," a delicate yet powerful mezcal with notes of coriander, hazelnuts and cherries
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A passer-by discovered the police dossier, which included aerial photographs of Mr Blunkett's home in Sheffield, details of his alarm system and the places he usually visits, on the street just yards from a police station in Sheffield.
Mr Hedges said: "The embarrassment is not what worries me. What worries me is the security and safety of the home secretary.
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The fourth edition of the Diamond Tennis Club annual tennis camp concluded Sunday at the Guyana Bank Trade Industry (GBTI) court East Bank Demerara after two weekends of intense training.
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TORONTO (Reuters) - Canadian miner Kinross Gold said on Wednesday that workers at its Tasiast gold mine in Mauritania in West Africa have initiated an unlawful work stoppage, halting mining and processing activity at the operation.
Kinross spokesman Steve Mitchell said mining and processing workers failed to report to work on Monday. About 600 workers are involved, although not all are on the same shift, he said. Most are unionized.
"They have raised a number of issues, which are the subject of current discussions with employee representatives and hope to get the situation resolved and get people back to work as soon as possible," he said. Kinross is Canada's third-largest gold producer by output.
Workers struck briefly at Tasiast in May 2011 over pay and working conditions, but were back to work in less than a day.
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I won't point a finger at any specific year and say that things WILL melt down here. But if you look at the history of all fiat currencies, they never end well. The one thing that they have in common is that they all DO end. Ours will be no different; unbacked money is simply too great a temptation for governments to abuse.
Come a day sooner or later, something will happen. Maybe not a complete collapse, but certainly a re-valuation of the dollar.
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America seems way more polarized now than it was in the 80's and income inequality is much more drastic. America has lost standing as a global super power. Things are very different today than they were in the 80's.
Some feel we've hit peak oil, some don't. Either way, I don't think one can doubt that if we have not hit peak oil, we are certainly closer to it now than we were in the 80's.
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If you have a mortgage and don't pay it, the banks will come and take it. Whether you live under a bridge or at Camp Fema is up to you I guess...
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In the Great Depression, tons of people lost their houses for the very same reasons people are losing their houses today -- they levered up (e.g. put little to no money down) and then things collapsed right out from under them.
Make no mistake about it -- large debts won't conveniently be forgotten about, no matter what happens. If you owe big money on a house and find yourself unable to pay, and even your lender goes belly up, you can be certain that debt will be sold off to the next highest bidder and someone will eventually be knocking on your door. Debt and debt collection is a very profitable business, for those involved.
Yes under our current system, you don't pay your mortgage eventually there will come a point where they foreclose and your kicked out. But right now with the system still actually functioning, it takes what 18 months to go thru that process. A friend in Fla it took over 2 years almost 3 before there came a date of get out or we put your stuff in the yard.
That is all dependent on the system working. If there was some sort of dollar collapse, all that would come apart. How many of those big banks would actually survive? So somebody would have to go and sort thru the files and figure out who isn't paying what. What kind of mess would that be to try and sort out, how long would it take, who would even do it?
Foreclosure involves the legal system, imagine the backlog of cases they would have. I was in city hall not long ago about a business license, and they had this huge stack of boxes marked 'foreclosures' okay lets call it a pallet. Right now they are way behind, now 10x that problem. Foreclosure also involves the local sheriff, where I live he probably knows just about everybody here, its a small town. A foreclosure here or there he will go along with, but half the county, unlikely. Forcing old people he goes to church with out of their homes with no where to go, as he is also supposed to foreclose on their kids house to, just don't see it happening. And there also the issue alot of people are not going to be very happy about it, they gonna send the SWAT team to every foreclosure, just in case.
Somebody somewhere might have one of those neat little 3 ring binder plans the government seems to have for everything. But how many plans actually work exactly as you want? What sort of logistical nightmare would it be to relocate half the country to camps somewhere so collapsed banks can take possession of all the property thats theirs. Then what are they going to do with it? Stuff like that is all built on the idea that the 'system' will be there to make it happen. Hyperinflation, would render money useless, how you gonna pay the court clerks, they gonna foreclose on their own homes? Cops gonna keep showing up to work if you can't pay them, or what you pay them won't buy anything. And I doubt anybody can say there is enough active, reserve, national guard, coast guard auxillary, cub scouts, whatever to enforce any sort of martial law or what ever you want to call it everywhere all at once.
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If you want to bring back Mother Nature and continents covered in verdant old growth forest, we need to trim about three billion people off this rock.
I think in a total collapse of the U.S. financial system, mortgaged homeowners would probably not need to fear mass evictions/foreclosures. If the dollar collapsed, the first two things that would happen would be:
1. Declaration of a national bank holiday of indeterminate duration, followed by the suspension of all financial markets. All assets would be frozen, all transactions halted. You can't pay a mortgage if you can't write a check, and they can't cash it.
2. Shortly thereafter, nationalization of all financial institutions operating in the U.S. would take place and your bank accounts, mortgages, etc., will be under the control of the U.S. government.
After that, the government's prerogative would be to stabilize the economy and maintain social order. You don't achieve that by kicking millions of people out of their homes. In fact, doing so would likely just incite revolution. However, don't think that debt will just be wiped away or anything. What's more, you may find yourself under a whole new set of terms (e.g., you can't sell your home, mortgages might be "adjusted" to account for hyper-inflation/devaluation, etc.). So, no one should view this potentiality as a get-out-of-jail free card.
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What kills me are certain "financial experts" online or tv or whatever who advise against paying off your mortgage assuming you have the cash to do so. They site current interest rates, the mortgage tax deduction or whatever as reasons not to pay it off. I say BULLROHR-if you can pay it off DO IT NOW! Nothing feels better than owning your home free and clear and not having to be concerned that some banker is going to take your home if you miss payments.
In part is our decision you took the loan, I did too in 2007 is a big beautifull house in one of the best neighbors, but a year ago I realized my mistake so I saved and took a 401k loan and bought a house in cash only 1/3 the cost of my big house, outside the city with land and animals permit and zero crime actually it was a distress manufactured home, for my family is going to be a big change and maybe sacrifice for me is a blessing, my kids will learn better, now I just need to save 5 to 10 years in taxes but in gold or silver.
You don't have to give specifics of the location, but I am interested in which country. My current option is in Asia, but I do not like the idea of flying if TS is in the middle of HTF.
This is an excellent discussion btw, but I think it there is truly a big enough economic collapse it will result in two scenarios:
1. The bankers will use it to fleece as many folks as possible and take houses (i.e. robo-signing in extreme). Many people who are fine on their mortgage will be tossed, and some will just have their houses and businesses completely stolen.
2. The govt will step in with some sort of huge relief program like the depression era. A new WPA is about the best we can hope for, and it will just kick the can farther down the road.
Look into the 2001 argentina economic collapse. I think we will have our own flavor of a collapse but it will be close to what they seen.
yes they will kick you out of your home, just look at places like los vegas and their ghost town neighborhoods.
Its not a gov. conspiracy its an world elite corporate banking cartel conspiracy, which own/control our gov.
Best thing you can do is get out of debt the best you can, dont keep money in the bank,stock up on at least 6 months worth of supplies. If your going to save any money instead of keeping it in the bank buy gold and silver bullion, but I would keep a few grand in cash as an emergence fund so you can make a quick run to the store to get last min supplies to top off your stockpile when you see the SHTF
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Reagan lowed the taxes in 1981 and nothing substantial came in until early 1984. Three years is a long time for something like a tax break to affect a loss of demand.
From 1981 to 1985, states were much more willing to maintain public worker levels. They raised taxes (it did not matter if Democrats or Republicans were running the states) and did not cut personnel. So Reagan started with a stronger base than did Obama. If there were no substantial loss of state and municipal employees, we would have a point lower unemployment rates.
FDR did raise taxes during the Depression. But we were getting out of the Depression until they tried to balance the budget in 1937. The top marginal rates kept going up and the country got out of the Depression. We were almost out of the woods by the end of 1941.
As for Hoover raising taxes, that might be true. But what made it bad was that we entered into a global trade war.
Heads, the bank wins. Tails, you lose.
I know you asked about economic collapse but I think I will talk about economic downturn like we are in now. Due to QE3 and the actions before it we are significantly devaluing our money. We have not yet felt the result of that devaluation because most other countries are doing the same so that they can stay competitive globally. But at some point this charade stops and the dollar goes down and everyone else's currency stays up. At that point if you maintain a job, and get cost of living increases, your overall salary will go up at a sufficiently fast rate to allow you to pay off your mortgage much faster. AKA you are being paid more to make up for the dollar being worth less but the bank cannot increase your loan principal. Of course if you do not maintain your job then as everyone else posted you get the boot.
The fly in this ointment is that you may not (probably will not) get a pay increase to cover the devaluation of our currency and in that case everything else will cost more and you will have less cash overall.
My personal advice (it is worth exactly what you paid for it) is to pay off any debt you have as quickly as you can. At least then if you lost your job you have the basics covered and can get a minimum job to pay for taxes and food.
If there was Germany 2 type inflation no one would lose their home. The banks would try to foreclose but you all you would have to do is fight the foreclosure.. During this time the system would be so backed up you wouldn't see the judge for years. Before this happen you would be able to pay off the bank in full. Of course people will be dying in the street from hunger and i don't think anyone will care to much at this point.
On the other hand if there is only 10% inflation and zero jobs.... Banks are going to get everything.
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"Let's see, they are a Christian without the seal. The seal is the Holy Spirit. Paul said if any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of His. We are sealed unto the day of redemption. BUT-as long as we're baptized in name of Father, Son, and Spirit we're Christians-but don't have the seal. But we have to convert to catholicism to receive it. What if we don't convert, and Jesus shows up, and we're Christians but not sealed? Are we ok, or out of luck? And we're Christians, but not in the REAL body of Christ. Just like unbelievers aren't really married, but are in concubinage right?
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is catholic logic at it's best. Uggh."
There is always "one more thing" to do. One more sacrament. One more tithe. One more penance. One more One more. And it never ends.
I like to call it the "Title Pawn Religion." You never, ever get out of debt to it.
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Whoever hears his Church hears him.
From the CCC.
817 In fact, "in this one and only Church from its very beginnings there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly censures as damnable. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions appeared and large communities became separated from full communion with the Catholic Church - for which, often enough, men of both sides were to blame."269 The ruptures that wound the unity of Christ's Body - here we must distinguish heresy, apostasy, and schism270 - do not occur without human sin:
Where there are sins, there are also divisions, schisms, heresies, and disputes. Where there is virtue, however, there also are harmony and unity, from which arise the one heart and one soul of all believers.271
818 "However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers .... All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church."272
819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth"273 are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements."274 Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him,275 and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity."276
#223 May 22, 2013
Sir I have to ask this question of you "Is the Catholic Church the church of the Christ?" It appears that when you discuss the subject of baptism you ignore a very important fact involving the Catholic Church which is the changing of Matthew 28:19. The original church of Jesus (Peter and the apostles) followed the command of the Lord Jesus and baptized into his name. The reason I wonder if your church could be considered the church of Christ is because your church does not baptize into Jesus. Since your church chooses to baptize into a manmade doctrine created by your church, have you not decided to separate yourselves from Christ? You claim Peter as your apostle but that is far from the truth as Peter baptized into the name of Jesus thus remaining in the true church. A completely different church than the Catholic Church. Since you admit that baptism of the bible saves you, how can your church deviate from what the bible teaches and even go as far as to change the verses in the word of God. Your own church admits this sir, this is not an assumption on my behalf. I pray you consider the truth presented before you and repent by joining the real church.
#224 May 22, 2013
There have been claims it was changed, but the Aramaic, who rejected RCC, have 'Father, Son and Holy Spirit' in the Matthew text as a quote from Jesus Christ and claim that is the way it was received from Matthew.
Just sayin'....
#225 May 22, 2013
Okay. I will consider it. What is the real Church? When did it start and what man started it? Give me some names of the Church leaders from 100 AD to 1500 AD. I will look up their writings and see what they have to say.
#226 May 22, 2013
I am interested in the source of your claim. Obviously the Aramaic claim or the Catholic claim that they changed Matt 28:19 is wrong. I know of no way this admission by the church benefits them in any way and they do not openly dispute this claim by their own people. Please share your source if you do not mind, sir.
#227 May 22, 2013
Are you talking about Iglesia ni Cristo? I heard a debate with them one time.
#228 May 22, 2013
Jesus started the church by dying and shedding his blood for it. The real church is made up of those that follow him. You will find the truth not in the writings of man but the word of God. You say "Give me some names of the Church leaders from 100 AD to 1500 AD."? LOl, my friend that is your problem. This is exactly where the Catholic Church does err, by looking to the words of man rather than the words of God. Repent my friend while there is still time.
#229 May 22, 2013
Yes sir, I am speaking of the church of Christ that Jesus died for. The one and only true church. The church you read of in the bible.
#230 May 22, 2013
I humbly pray you will consider my words and may you have a wonderful evening, my friend.
#231 May 23, 2013
So when Jesus said the Church is the pillar and foundation of Truth, which of those that follow him have this truth? How do I pick out them out.
I know you must be one. Who else?
I have a Bible question for you? Who wrote the book of Mark and how do you know?
#232 May 23, 2013
There was a sect of Christians in the East (Netzarim) who preserved the texts as originally received. Their oldest extant manuscript (167 AD) was translated from Aramiac to English in 2010 and published as the Aramaic English New Testament (AENT). There is a section that discusses textual sources, previous Aramaic translations, Church history, and such. It's a wonderful source for study.
See the video interviews (2) to get a better 'flavor' from the translator and publisher. It's a bit pricey, but well worth the cost - the only thing I've found to question is his viewpoint on circumcision, as Jesus said the real circumcision is that of the heart. I'd recommend every student of the Lord get a copy for their studies.
#233 May 23, 2013
#234 May 23, 2013
I am confused. The only one I read about is the Catholic Church.
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Folks not believing nor understanding how a rimless bottleneck case fits the front of the chamber perfectly centered might consider a few things that explains why and how.
First, inspect your bolt action rifle and notice the one or two things that push the cartridge forward into the chamber until it stops after the bolt's closed.
Second, figure out why the case shoulder being forced into the chamber shoulder will center it there. Note the two angles, both shoulder and chamber, are the same for all practical purposes. Such cases do this the same way headspace gauges do and these gauges do center perfectly in the chamber's shoulder when all the way forward without any neck at all.
Third, if you cannot figure out the first two, then measure the clearance around a case neck to the chamber neck when the round's chambered and pushed all the way forward by those one or two external forced putting it there. There's an easy way to do this; cut the barrel off just in front of the chamber mouth, square it up then use a 10X loupe with a scale in thousandths to do the measuring.
Measure the diameter of a resized case neck (to the nearest .0001"), then compare that to the measured diameter of the chamber neck at the same point, you may be surprised to see how much clearance there is. If there's clearance, then there's no way that area on both the case and in the chamber will do anything to center the case neck in the chamber neck.
Then you may be able to understand why a .243 Win. cartridge will fit a .308 Win. chamber such that when fired, its case neck and therefore the bullet, too, is perfectly centered in the bore. Even if its body diameters are .006" smaller than the chamber and there's .006" head clearance due the case headspace being .006" shorter than chamber headspace.
Some folks have been sizing fired cases this way for decades and getting accuracy equal to or better than what the benchresters do. Sierra Bullets for one; their best match bullets go into sub 1/4 MOA groups in their 200 yard indoor range in Missouri. I've seen several 10-shot test groups from their 100 yard range in California testing 168's in .308 Win. cases that were in the ones; under 2/10ths inch.
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Blah blah blah ! I am so sick of MR know it all .
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Bullet Bumper, I didn't think it took much reasoning to figure out that an in-line ejector pushes the round forward such that its shoulder centers in the chamber shoulder after the bolt's closed. To say nothing of the fact that the firing pin does so with much more gusto; the case movement stops with its shoulder hard into and well centered in the chamber shoulder. Oft times the case shoulder's set back a thousandth or so before the primer fires. There's enough clearance between the bolt face and extractor lip for several thousandths play of the case rim to do this.
If this is too much for you to figure out, sorry I stressed your reasoning abilities past their limit. There's no doubt other areas of parts fit and function in a rifle you can figure out then know a lot about. To your credit, your were on the right track mentioning the "crush fit" idea for centering the case shoulder in the chamber shoulder. But you forgot, or didn't know about, nor could not understand the force on the case from an in-line ejector or the firing pin.
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I don't believe you Bart
I checked and none of my cartridges change in headspace on primer strike & firing.
And you're forgetting runout. TIR would just as likely prevent 'perfect centering' of chambering. It would also likely cause a case to flinch into abstract fitting of the chamber on firing.
Do your cases also straighten out(drop in TIR) from primer firing?
If your cartridges are changing in HS on primer firing alone, it simply indicates very low shoulder angles, and/or excessive striker settings. This doesn't apply to better designed modern cartridges and correctly timed/tuned actions.
As far as an ejector plunger pushing a case forward from boltface, you gotta know this is an angled push, and counter to a well fitting extractor. Bad for centering.
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I don't believe you Bart
Most folks don't. I knew you would post such a comment. If your stuff does something else, fine. But I know what my stuff, as well as that of many others, does. So be a nice boy and take your rant off to someone else.
I checked and none of my cartridges change in headspace on primer strike & firing.
And you're forgetting runout. TIR would just as likely prevent 'perfect centering' of chambering. It would also likely cause a case to flinch into abstract fitting of the chamber on firing.
Do your cases also straighten out(drop in TIR) from primer firing?
No, not any measurable amount. They're already pretty darned straight with no more than .002" runout. The ammo shoots as good as anybody's with that much runout.
If your cartridges are changing in HS on primer firing alone, it simply indicates very low shoulder angles, and/or excessive striker settings. This doesn't apply to better designed modern cartridges and correctly timed/tuned actions.
It happens in all the modern Remington, Winchester, and a host of other actions I've used measuring shoulder setback on .308 Win. cases. .30-06 ones and those sub caliber wildcats on it set back more so. And all with factory spec firing pin springs. Many folks have challenged my comments regarding this only to do their own tests then learn I was right.
As far as an ejector plunger pushing a case forward from boltface, you gotta know this is an angled push, and counter to a well fitting extractor. Bad for centering.
Not in my measurements is it bad for centering. Besides, it's repeatable from round to round as is the extractor's sideways push putting the case pressure ring against the chamber wall opposite it.
My extractors are fitted well enough to do their job and there's a few thousandths clearance between their lip edge and the bolt face when the rounds are chambered; both with external Mauser style as well as the sliding ones on the bolt face in front of a locking lug. This lets the case move forward from firing pin impact without interference from the extractors. I've measured the clearance with micrometers. It varies with case rim thickness.
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Continue to lower FL die till it sizes the brass enough for either a fit with slight bolt closing resistance or one that allows you to close the bolt without resistance but no more. There is a fine line between the two settings. Once you find that spot you can repeat it by using feeler gauges to measure the gap between the shell holder and end of die body
We can duplicate the die set up that way but we can't precisely repeat the shoulder sizing that way. Case spring back varies by brand and production lot, ditto the normal work hardening as it's recycled. I gave up any rote method of die adjustment decades ago and adjust my sizers to match my chambers each time I load a batch.
What never gets mentioned in how tight we adjust a FL sizer for chamber fit is that it hardly matters to a fine degree anyway. The firing pin impact drives each case fully forward in the chamber and then the primer discharge drives it a tad deeper so rimless case shoulders are always going to be fully forward and centered in the chamber. Pressure will expand the thin necks and fore part (probably before the bullet moves more than a small amount) and lock the case in that full forward position as pressure increases to stretch the base back into contact with the bolt face. Thus "proper" - minimum - FL resizing helps limit case stretch more than it affects acuracy. Making accurate ammo involves much more than neck sizing, "partial" FL sizing or highly precise sized shoulder placement.
Normal neck sizing below the neck's contact with the seated bullet is meaningless.
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You said using a feeler gauge "won't precisely repeat the shoulder sizing that way."
I understand but was trying to help someone that is new to reloading. The feeler gauge will set the die very close if it isn't perfect. If there is an issue with the user wanting to have more bold closure resistance when closing the bolt or no resistance it is a simple matter to rotate the die body a tiny amount. The feeler gauge saves the trial and error of running the die down and making multiple sizings till the fit is achieved.
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