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So I'm in tears for the umpteenth time. DS has been withholding since June last year (at which point he was two and a half). I've tried every tip ever posted on mumsnet but nothing seems to work - prune juice, blowing up balloons, blowing bubbles, swimming, treats, senokot, lactulose, loads of fruit - you name it, I've tried it.
Just before xmas things seemed to get a little better - still holding but doing a plum-size poo in his nappy most days. A few weeks ago he woke up and announced "I want to wear pants to nursery" and because withholding is all about control I went with it. Apart from the first day he's had no wee accidents, but now the poo withholding has ramped up a gear. We've told him he can poo in pull-ups but he says he doesn't want to but won't go on toilet either. The last two days he's had a meltdown at the mere suggestion of pull-ups and is now running around wimpering.
Is Movicol the answer? Please tell me how you got through this and it will end eventually (read a horror story on here earlier of a child who was still this at 13!)
My DS1 has been on movicol for several years now. I honestly don't know how long he will need to be on it, but it has been a lifesaver for him! Nothing else worked! I think his longest hold was 18 days the GP told me that he felt my DS1 had a small fissure which meant it hurt to poo and so he began a with holding cycle! I'm not sure I entirely agree, I always felt that he behaved like he had piles and was aways told that small children don't get piles! Guess what?? DS2 has piles in spite of a very healthy diet with plenty of fruit and veg....
Either way! Go for the movicol, but if it turns to diarrhoea drop the amount, going the other way can be horrendous too! Good luck!
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The first few days of it kicking in are grim.... My gp described it as 'the inspiration for the chocolate river in Charlie and the chocolate factory' [eww]
Once they're only producing a normal amount of poo on the higher dose you can try dropping the dose gradually until you hit the minimum dose that will keep them regular but you absolutely have to get through the floods of runny poo first.
parched be really careful about this: "The next couple of days he did lots of poos, but they started to get runny, so I dropped the dose down to two sachets".
This is just what you should NOT do. You need a few DAYS of runny poo to be sure they are really cleared out, otherwise you go back to leaky poo in the pants again which is really impacted poo leaking out around the impaction. I know its grim, but a week at home is often needed and expect mess. It will then gets better from there xx
Thought I'd post an update: they day after my last post, DH had to collect DS from nursery as he was so upset and in pain. It was day 5 of Movicol with no result, so DH sat him on the toilet and explained that his tummy was full of poo and that's why it hurt; the only way to stop it hurting was to push out the poo but he would stay with him and hold his hand. Eventually, he did one (though was very upset) to much jubilation, cheers and treats. The next couple of days he did lots of poos, but they started to get runny, so I dropped the dose down to two sachets.
First day back at nursery after the previous week's trauma and he did 4 poos in his pants and also a couple of wees. We were despondent that we were going backwards but I tried to keep some perspective and thought I'd rather have poos in pants than no poos at all. The next day we had a couple of poos in pants and a couple on the toilet and the next day, two poos in toilet and no dirty or wet pants.
His poos later in the day were getting a bit runny, so he now has one sachet in the morning and one in the evening and we seem to have reached a good level, with a couple of poos a day of good size and consistency and - most importantly - no fuss .
It's not been a magic fix in that he's still trying to hold in poo, or at least put off going to the toilet, but with some gentle reminders he does go and sit on the toilet and happily tell me a poo is coming. So far the doctor is only prescribing 30 sachets a time, so I'm having to go back every fortnight. If he thinks this'll be fixed in a couple of weeks, he's much mistaken! Hopefully he'll soon get sick of me and give me a bigger prescription. It's made such a difference, I'm determined not to be fobbed off.
Anyway, wanted to say thank you to everyone who posted with advice, and for anyone else going through this, don't be scared off by some of the horror stories about Movicol. Give it a try as it really can make all the difference.
Thk you Peach! Managed to get her to drink a whole sachet today in an Innocent Smoothie (Mango), after mixing initially with 63ml water. Result; first soft poo in days!! (Had success last week, but went backwards again Thur/Fri Sat/Sun). She's 10 months so wont be sitting on the loo for a while.
We make up the Movicol according to the instructions (mix with water 63ml?) the add milk and chocolate Nesquik...so like a chocolate milkshake.
One really important thing to do is insist they sit on the loo for up to 10mins, after breakfast, lunch and tea. This gets them into a routine, even if they don't go. Feet on a flat surface (stool) and sitting leaning slightly forward.
DS is now 5 and we are under prof candy who is good. An xray was really useful and really helped us all to understand far more.
Hi there....not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I need some advice on how to get Movicol into my 10MO. She's had problems pooing really since weaning on & off. Got quite bad 2/52 ago and lactulose wasn't helping so GP gave her Glycerin suppositories & Movicol. CANNOT get the Movicol in, though. Any tips? Really don't want her to start withholding. She sometimes cries when she's straining & am afraid witholding will be next. Her diet's good, BTW.
When my DS was withholding, I found www.eric.org.uk a helpful site.
Firstly let me sympathise - IT IS SO STRESSFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My dd has withheld poo (and I swear to god) since she was a newborn. She is now on a sachet of movicol a day but my god we have been to hell and back. I highly recommend you get on the movicol. Ans try to stop talking about poo. I know it is hard but DON'T TALK ABOUT POO! At some points I have almost sat on my 3 year old to get her to sit on the potty. We have gone for DAYS without poos, screaming, crying, unable to leave the house incase she has a MASSIVE poo explosion, jesus it is a nightmare. Things are SO much better now. We have gone from 3 sachets of mov down to 1 now and she is in a good routine of pooing but it has been hard work. I HIGHLY recommend this book
All the very best. Things WILL get better.xxxx
Thanks noodles - I was a bit unsure whether I should bother with the GP or not. They said last time that as long as she was eating OK, happy, not lethargic, and not in pain, then I should just let nature take it's course...
I don't want to put her through having to have Movicol (or any other drugs for that matter) unecessarily. She is producing 'something' each day now - although not a lot I hasten to add
You all have my sympathy, it's so stressful.
Parched, YY to shouting & crying and crying in front of staff, etc. You are not alone!
DS is still on liquid Movicol on a daily basis, but he seems to have realised that if he doesn't poo on the toilet he really doesn't get the treats he looked forward to, like swimming and soft play. If he poos he always gets an ice-cream afterwards. He still has his activity books, but now we are saying, "We will play one game with you. If you do a poo, we will play another game in your room."
It seems to be working so far. I wouldn't like to say we're out of the woods, but I think we are getting there.
curly, if it was me I would go back to the GP and
demand request Movicol. The longer it goes on the harder it will get to resolve. Lactulose is good but it looks like your DD is withholding to the degree that needs something stronger.
marking my place here as I'm close to the end of my tether with 2.11yr old DD. She has been ptty trained since 2.4 but has always had poo issues (varying degrees from month to month). She has always held it in for a while and we had a trip to the GP back in Oct/Nov time who didn't prescribe anything just advised lots of water, fruit etc. Soon after, we got to the point that she would happily sit on the potty in front of the TV and would often do huge poos! so i thought we were making progress...
Anyway, at Xmas DD was poorly and then we went away for new year. She had a poo when we first got there which was the first one in about 5-6 days (which i put down to all the calpol/nurofen she'd had and that she hadn't eaten that much) and then because we were unable to take her potty with us, she proceeded to hold in any further poo until we were back in the UK 7 days later. She has been withholding ever since and it's driving me mad. She keeps asking for a pull-up to poo in (which i don't mind as i would rather she go) but even then she is still only producing a 'plum' size poo each day and her belly looks bigger than it should (although not really hard or anything).
I have been giving her some lactulose which I bought over the counter in the chemist, which has made the poo softer but isn't increasing the amount she is producing iyswim? I feel that she needs a really good clear out, but don't know whether to try the GP again or not. She is happy in herself and is eating and full of energy so I don't think it's affecting her too badly - it's me who is stressing!
Ds2 is too stubborn for rewards. He gets a jelly for sitting on the loo and a toy car if he poos on the toilet but still won't do it.... Little sod!
My daughter started to do this when potty training. She was doing so well then seemed to get freaked out by the toilet.
The biggest thing that made a difference was sooo stupid but I did start to get a bit desperate . . . . A poopy sticker chart!
Every time she went she got a sticker to put in a square on the chart and when it was completely full she got a stupidly expensive toy story doll. She was literally squeezing them out near the end of the chart just so that she "could win".
Ds2 was put back on movicol on Friday. 2 sachets a day. He had lots of liquidy poo yesterday but he's still holding some back.
When he's been withholding a while he gets overflow so we have a charming mix of poo refusing but constantly pooey pants. The pressure also causes him to wet himself constantly.
This has been going on since he toilet trained in September, although it started in as more minor way before the summer on a previous pt attempt.
He's going to be 4 on Saturday and our current situation is as prescription for 3 months of 2 sachets a day with a likely continuation beyond that.
We need to get him totally relaxed about poking before we even consider weaning off the movicol as he's proved simply shifting the blockage and stopping the movicol only makes things worse.
So on day 1 he had one sachet, two sachets on days 2 and 3, but still no "production" (as me and DH refer to poo in front of DS!) and have gone up to 3 sachets this morning. Trying to get DS to drink 180ml of juice was a bit of a battle though. He was running around on tiptoe trying to withhold so I sat him on the toilet, but he was still resisting. I ended up losing my temper, shouting, then crying and now feel like total s**t and a bad mother who is going to traumatise him further. I've burst into tears in front of nursery staff and work colleagues this morning
we had this problem with DD when trying potty training. We had 3 separate attempts and witholding was a problem every time. 3rd time we just dosed her everyday with lactulase and then we happened to be in a cafe and she shared a pretty rich chocolate brownie with me and that was it, we were in poo heaven. A month on she poos every day in her potty, no accidents or problems at all. I think she just 'got it'. (she was 3 in December btw.)
Yes, a record is a good idea because you tend to forget exactly what's been done when. The frustration is the worst thing, you can't help any more (than give medicine) but you're desperate to. Our DS just didn't seem to get it. He does seem to be catching on now, his comprehension has improved massively over the last few months (he has autism) and the points we make to him actually seem to be sinking in.
We pointed out that a) his poos are lovely and soft and don't hurt his bottom; b) if he doesn't poo in the toilet but holds it in, then we can't go swimming or to soft play; c) if he holds it in he will get constipated (he does know what this means, the nurse gave him a booklet they issue in these circumstances) and pooing will start to hurt again; d) he's a big boy now, and big boys do their poos in the toilet and e) he gets some ice-cream if he does a reasonable poo.
Previously all this just didn't wash with him. Either he didn't understand or he just didn't believe us. He was on liquid Movicol for a month before he started to relax slightly about letting it out, but it was hard going and there were LOTS of dirty pants, sometimes 3 or 4 a day. It IS getting better though, honest!
Re your question, it takes a while, to be fair - not just to soften the poo, but for the child to start to relax and trust that it will be OK to let the poo out. It has to be happen lots of times, consistently, before the poor LO can start to feel safer about letting go. I can't remember what the leaflet in the Paed Plain said about doses, but I would start with the maximum recommended dose and aim to very gradually reduce it.
(Why are my poo posts always epics??? Sorry for waffling on! )
TheNoodlesIncident - we have a book too. It gives me back a sense of control, even though I have none whatsoever (I sometimes ask myself if it's any wonder that I, as a control freak, have a child who is literally anally retentive).
I saw a locum doctor today who was very kind and I have administered the first sachet. As luck would have it DS did a poo on the toilet yesterday (after 30 mins of sitting there crying) so thought it best to start with a low dose. However, have caught him trying to withhold already and am a bit worried about an explosion. Anyone know how long it takes to get a result (IYKWIM)?
A little update from my ds, we only got to 2 sachets over 2 days and we had a day and a half full of poo(lovely soft poo!). Doctors advice was to then slowly reduce it.
I have him 2 sachets and have now tried one. If we have another episode ill know to stick at 2.
My ds suffered with constipation for about a year. It started when he was 2.5. He was prescribed movicol and we were told that it would take about 6 months of slowly reducing the amount to get it to work. It was a long process, but sure enough by the end of the 6 months he was regularly going every night before his bath and still is now at 6.5 . I feel for you - it is so distressing to watch. Some days both ds and myself would be in tears over it and when he did eventually go it would make small tears, which of course would make the process of going again even worse. Movicol is wonderful stuff and certainly hasn't had any lasting ill effects for ds.
We're still having trouble but DS is getting better. He was pooing 5 days out of 7 on average (yes we do make notes!) throughout December but had a relapse in January due to illness. He hardly ate anything and therefore had no need to poo, so slipped back into old ways. It was very upsetting because we thought he had cracked it, being so proactive in December.
He's 4 now and has had bowel problems since he was a baby. He's under the care of the Paediatric Continence Nurse and is prescribed Adult Movicol, as the Paediatric Plain sachets weren't working for us. Obviously adult Movicol is not licensed for use with children, so we get phone calls and questioning from the pharmacist (which is reassuring), to make sure that we are giving him the dose recommended by the GP, which is half the minimum adult dose. It works better for us because it is a liquid with a mild orange taste which can be mixed with any drink and doesn't seem to be objectionable to DS (which the powders were).
What we have also tried is telling DS that if he doesn't do his poos in the toilet regularly then we can't go swimming (or soft play, but swimming his favourite) any more. He might not be able to hold a poo in while in the pool, and that would be awful...
I do feel bad about this sort of thing, but I have tried so many things for so long without effect that we have got desperate. If it works, it works, and it's for his own benefit. He can sit on the toilet for ages (his record nearly two hours) without doing a poo, he's got so good at holding it in. He has activity books for looking at whilst he's there, that also seems to help.
The continence nurse has pointed out that it can take as long to resolve the problem as the problem has existed, so it seems we'll have Movicol on repeat prescription for a long time. As Yacka says, the bowel wall gets stretched so it takes time to return to normal.
Just a quick response - we had exactly the same problem with my DD. started around 20 months. We moved to potty training just after 2 to see if that would help but she still withheld it and would put it off so long that she got terrible pains in her tummy. We used orange juice and explained that the only way to get rid of the tummy ache was to go to the toilet and push it out. I went in and helped her push by telling her when to push. Sounds a bit daft now but we got through it in the end and although she puts it off sometimes its really fine now. I think it sorted itself out around 3 yrs.
Thanks everyone. I've got a doctor's appt for Monday, so we'll see what happens.
Just to let you know it does get better and it does end! My DS1 was terrible for witholding his poo and once went for 18 loooong day of no poos. I too him to doctors so many times, tried to increase his fruit intake, encourage him to drink more, doctor prescribed movicol but in the end it was psychological not physical so nothing we could do but wait it out. It was horrendous, DS would get himself so stressed out and in the end would only poo in his sleep in a nappy once every week or so :-( It was horrible and I ised to feel so stressed and even angry about it. In the end we just had to relax and try not to keep talking about it in front of him or make him feel bad for it. By the time he was 4 he for some reason would do a poo every day on the toilet. He's 5 now and we still have to remind him to go every day but I think he's just in a habit of having us tell him he needs to have a poo in the evenings so he goes and pretty much can poo on command now. If it was left to him, he probably would still only poo every 3 days or so but then it gets painful. Anyway main point is that it will get better, even if you do nothing.
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After 2+ years, the Super Six Tournament ends tonight; who will reign supreme in the super middleweight division?
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A small but vocal contingent of British fans invaded Friday's official weigh-in at Circus Maximus at Caesars Atlantic City in for the culmination of the Super Six World Boxing Classic, breaking into chants and song in support of the man they travelled over two thousand miles for, Carl Froch. The WBC champ, who weighed in at 167.5 pounds, will square off with WBA champ Andre Ward, 168 pounds, in the Tournament Final, live on SHOWTIME tonight at 9 p.m. ET/PT (delayed on the West Coast) from the historic Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J.
At stake tonight: both belts, the vacant The Ring magazine championship, the inaugural Super Six World Boxing Classic Cup and, most importantly, super middleweight supremacy. After a grueling journey for both men, one of the most significant fights in the history of the super middleweight division will crown an undisputed champion in one of boxing's deepest divisions.


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i have an old customer , the type you shake hands and thats the contract, anyway they want a maintaince set up and a flat rate to snake the main every month and the leader linesand floor drains also....my question is how do i figure out a fair price with out knocking someone over the head...i usually charge 160 for the first hr and 80 dollars additional if that helps
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i need a lil advice
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How long would the job take? Do you have to guarantee the drains between maintenance cleanings?
Mark"Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony
I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!
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im thinking no more then 2 hours and thats alot
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Give them a no-stoppage guarantee as long as they keep the contract. (meaning if it clogs up you'll clear it for free.)
Charge them per month whatever seems reasonable to you. Maybe $200-$300 depending on how much time and effort will go into each monthly cleaning.
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i have 1 property that i do this for on a monthly basis. that's what they want, not what they need.
i charge $160 to snake out 2- 6'' mains to the city connection.
now that i've been doing this contract for over a year, i can get done in under an hour and cleaned up.
one is in the subterrain garage and the other is street level.
i use a 1.25'' cable with 4x6'' cutters to access the 4'' c/o into the 6'' main.
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so you usually get $260 from that client and he wants it monthly and probably some kind of deal since it is monthly so how about make it $199 (sounds better than $200 to a client) And as Rick said you will get it down to a routine and your time will decrease plus it won't actually be clogged when you come to do it.
BryceSeattle Drain Service
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Wow ,is this a commercial bldg.?. Why monthly?I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .
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these are condos also.........20 units but heres the catch 2 seperate mains 4 inch cast iron with a house trap on each line....also they want all therre drains in the basement and court yard done.........so 2 -4 inch mains ,2 stand pipes for the washing machines, 2 floor drains2 area drains in the court yard and 1-4" indirect trap line picking up 2 coolers and an ice machine ...the whole job takes me 2 hours but i low balled it at 325.00......i should have said 500.....lol
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9 lines at $325? that lowball is in the dirt around here... two hours is humping too...hats off. Only way I could justify a price anywhere near that is the monthly thing, or if were layed out really nice and easy. Also, if the monthly doesn't last, they will still want you to do it quarterly or whatever at the same price. why on earth would any line need monthly cleaning? I'd probably charge $600-$700 and suggest quarterly cleanings. Better for both of you.This is my reminder to myself that no good will ever come from discussing politics or religion with anyone, ever.


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---------------------------------------- FROM RESPONDENT 035: NAME: Jeffrey H. Ingerman Reg. No. 31,069 COMPANY: Fish & Neave ADDR-1: firstname.lastname@example.com CITY, STATE ZIP: TELEPHONE: FAX: REPRESENT: SELF ---------------------------------------- QUESTION 01: Should the PTO require that all Official application related materials be delivered to a central location? Specifically, what problems would a requirement that all official application-related materials be delivered to a central location cause? ---------------------------------------- COMMENT ON QUESTION 01: No comments supplied ---------------------------------------- QUESTION 02: Should the PTO adopt a standard application format? 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I believe that this will prejudice patent applicants by delaying issuance of patents, by eliminating the ability to direct a communication directly to an Examiner to hasten prosecution. The alleged justification for this change in practice is that procedures that allow decentralized filing will result in some data not being captured. I respectfully submit that substantive rights of applicants should not be sacrificed for the administrative convenience of the Patent and Trademark Office. The Patent and Trademark Office should be able to put in place procedures to ensure data capture, and should be able to enforce its procedures on its own staff to eliminate missed data capture. For example, clerks could be instructed not to physically enter into a file any paper that has not been stamped "Entered into database" by the data capture staff. If such a paper comes to the clerk to be physically entered and the stamp is missing, procedures should require the clerk to send the paper (and the file?) to the data capture staff. Failure to follow the procedures should be grounds for disciplinary action against the clerk. Other schemes to accomplish the Patent and Trademark Office's goal without affecting applicants' rights could be formulated. The Patent and Trademark Office is contemplating imposing a standard application format. I respectfully submit that there is already a de facto standard format among practitioners at least those whose clients have substantial foreign filing programs. Specifically, many practitioners prepare their United States patent applications in the format mandated by the EPO and PCT, in order to minimize retyping or reformatting when the time comes to file the application abroad. While I have no opinion as to whether or not the Patent and Trademark Office should impose a standard, I believe that if there is a standard, it should be the same as the EPO/PCT standard. I have no strong opinion on what should be included in the publication/ but I strongly believe that an applicant should receive a copy of whatever is published, or, if only a Gazette entry is published, at least a notice in advance stating when publication in the Gazette will occur. The Patent and Trademark Office is contemplating requiring that claims for priority under either 35 U.S.C. =A7 119 or 120 be made within some time certain from the United States filing date, to prevent applicants from delaying publication by delaying the priority claim. I appreciate the motivation of the Patent and Trademark Office, and do not have any difficulty in placing a time limit on Section 119 priority claims, where it is the rare applicant who does not know at the time of filing that priority is to be claimed. Even there, a late claim should be permitted, with immediate publication if the 18-month period has passed, and a surcharge to cover the cost of the extra processing that would be needed for the immediate publication. However, with respect to Section 120 priority, it is not always known in advance that such priority will be claimed. For example, in many cases the only way in the prosecution of a second application to overcome as a reference a first application having common but not identical inventors is to claim in the second application continuation-in-part status from the first application. At the time of filing of the second application, it may not be perceived that that will be necessary and, particularly in view of the impending implementation of the 20-year term, applicants should not be required to decide in advance that continuing status should be claimed where it may not prove to be necessary. The Patent and Trademark Office proposal will result in a serious potential loss of substantive rights for procedural convenience. In a case such as the one just described, the Patent and Trademark Office should simply publish the second application as soon as possible after continuing status is claimed, assuming that 18 months have already passed from the first filing and have not yet passed from the second filing, again imposing a surcharge if extra costs are involved. With respect to assignment data, I believe that at least one purpose of 18-month publication is to give notice of potential patents to be issued to one's competitors, and if so then assignment data should be printed on the publication itself, and the assignment records should remain open to prevent assignees from hiding their identities by recording assignments only after publication. With respect to the form of amendments, the Patent and 'Trademark Office should maintain an amendment format that allows, as does the present format, easy comparison between an original claim and its amended form. These comments represent the views of the undersigned and do not necessarily reflect the views of this firm.
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Switched outlet and running new wire
I have 2 outlets I'd like to make half switched. Right now, the outlets are full switched. I understand I need to run a single hot wire to the outlet for the always hot half. Am I required to run new wire all the way from the panel? Or can I cut another existing line in half, stick it in a junction box, and splice everything together?
Also, can I run a single regular plain wire to the outlet or do I have to use romex and only utilize the black wire in it?
If you do not have conduit ,you will need to run new romex to that box--no unshielded wires inside the walls
you should be able to draw that circuit from any near by J box that has adequate power.
A licensed electrician will correct me if I screwed you up. They are all at a barbecue and I wasn't invited. (I'm old grumpy and have no sense of humor)--Mike---
You already have a hot wire at the switch. If you have conduit you can run 1 wire from the switch to the outlet to power it. If you don't have conduit you will be installing a cable.
There are no extra wires not being used.
If new romex needs to be run maybe I'll just have an electrician install 2 new outlets. Since this is where my computer and tv plug into, I could ensure the best new wiring. Any rough estimates from electricians of what 2 new outlets would cost as opposed to wiring up the switched outlets?
So if you really want to know the cost the best answer is have couple electricians make a bid for you have at least 3 bids and go from there.
I like your idea of running a new dedicated circuit (or two) for your computer station.
I don't like sensitive equipment on a line that has a lot of other uses---especially any high amp items that could cause power fluctuation when they start up.
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Alex Kunz, Sioux Falls; Rebecca Powell, Chamberlain; and Adam Ragels, Mitchell, will present their vocal pieces accompanied by professional accompanist Deb Kalsbeck.
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Does anyone know when this site will be released as open source?
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|Jonah Morrison · June 10, 2014
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Jonah Morrison
· June 11, 2014
I really hate to say this: You guys are wrong. If its a programming community then people can learn a ton from seeing the source code. As well it becomes more of a community when other people help build features. It goes from 1 person to lots of people.
Like Bucky said before. Facebook has 5000 employees, we have everyone else.
H. P. Lovecraft
· August 15, 2014
It really baffles me how many people here don't understand how open source works. No one is going to steal anything, this is such a childish mentality. If you violate licenses you could be facing a lawsuit.
H. P. Lovecraft
· June 12, 2014
Git is a version control system, GitHub let's you host your codebase remotely using git.
H. P. Lovecraft
· July 26, 2014
That's just broken code without a license. You can't use it in anyway. Software is required to be licensed. Besides I am guessing very little of that code corresponds to the current code. There's been a lot of changes lately.
I wish Bucky could publish the code already, I think his plan of not releasing until its done is a bit silly. Bugs would be solved much quicker if it already was out there.
H. P. Lovecraft
· June 11, 2014
It has to be one of these, if I am not mistaken.
H. P. Lovecraft
· July 28, 2014
I think this site will never really be "done". They will keep adding features to it, just look at facebook, twitter, youtube. Those sites are constantly in change, and there's almost always some bugs to kill.
I agree with you Sam, I don't mind either if the source isn't published. But I know there were some people who donated to the project because of that cause.
My hypothesis is just that Bucky is a guy with a lot of stuff on his hands. He'll open source it eventually, we just have to wait a bit.
In the meantime, let's just focus about building a solid community with high quality knowledge. TheNewBoston has gotten a bit bad reputation, so let's change that.
Nikola Novakovic
· August 15, 2014
I must say that you those points are pretty strong and you changed my opinion. It really makes sense when you think about it. I looked at the website from a commercial standpoint, that was the mistake.
Nahiyan Alamgir
· August 14, 2014
I love Bucky and his tutorials. However, I think it should have been open source by now as that's what Bucky promised in his Indiegogo campaign. People were attracted mainly because it was promised to be open source unlike the leading social networking sites: Facebook, Twitter and Google+. It was not just a personal promise, it was professional. People contributed to the campaign and now Bucky made closed source BR instead.
I disagree with people who think making it open source wouldn't be such a good idea. Have you checked out the source code of Linux? Even I can go ahead and send a pull request for Linus Torvalds. https://github.com/torvalds/linux. We don't care whether people steal the source code for their own project. We just care about making a better social networking site. The same goal of the Linux project. Today security patches of Windows are coded by employees of Microsoft but the rest of the world does it for Linux. You guys think the source code should be released only when the code is mature? C'mon, releasing the source would help it get mature even faster! Again, just check out the pull requests and commits of Linux's Github project! It's getting better everyday. Torvalds didn't wait for the source code to be perfect. I believe BR would be much better today if it was open source in the first place. Bucky could have also made tutorials on understanding the source code and contributing to it.
I strongly believe that BR should turn into an open source project as soon as possible.
Nikola Novakovic
· August 15, 2014
Just because that it says on a document somewhere that the website shares a code only for educational purposes that does not mean that someone will not go in and steal the code, refactor it a bit ( maybe even not that ) and publish it as its own.
We live in a world where people steal from each other just to get their finance status up. This will be the same if the project gets open-source. Some person from a country that is far far away from the USA ( because I think it would be harder to pull off this in the states, laws are a bit more strict on this matter there ) will just copy and paste this, do a bit of a redesign and there we have it a new super awesome ultra fun social network that he/she made.
Heck someone from my country could easily steal the code with whatever license and make it live.
The code should remain closed.
Nikola Novakovic
· August 15, 2014
Or maybe share the code to people that are actually in BuckysRoom social network. That way we could at least prevent stealing a little bit and we would have the code at our fingertips to make this website, that I really love much more the facebook, a better place.
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April 14, 2013
RENO, Nev. – The University of Nevada men's tennis team bounced conference foe Air Force on Sunday by a score of 5-2 for its first conference victory of the season.
The Wolf Pack (9-10, 1-3 MW) jumped off to a hot start against the Falcons (11-11, 0-5 MW) by winning two of three doubles matches to secure an early point, and finished the day strong with four singles victories to secure the win. The victory was the first for the Pack in Mountain West play, and stopped a six-match skid. For assistant coach Kristian Kuhzarsky, he was happy to see the team come out on top.
"It was great to see them win a tough match," he said. "We started well in doubles, and we carried that momentum into singles. It was pretty tight there toward the end, Air Force is a strong and competitive team. We really had to battle at the end be victorious, and I'm glad to see the guys did."
The first singles victory came from co-captain Victor Ouvrard, as he rolled past Grant Taylor in straight sets from position three 6-2, 6-4. Andrew Poustie picked up his second win of the weekend in position five, powering past Andy Jackson 6-1, 6-4. Quentin Mege was victorious in straight sets in position two, pushing past Steven Young 6-4, 6-3. The final singles victory came from Robert Allan, as he pulled out the three set thriller from position six by Squeezing past Andrew Parks 6-4, 3-6, 7-5.
In doubles, Poustie and partner Fernando Sunago snatched a victory against Alex Grubbs and Jack McCullers 8-6 in position two. The other victory came from position three, where Allan Ryan Andrada got past Jackson and Ali Rizvi, also by a score of 8-6.
The Wolf Pack is in action again on Friday when it makes the trek to Boise, Idaho to face Boise State beginning at 1 p.m.
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Apr 14, 2013 at Reno, Nev.
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Lance Wilhelm (AF) def. Moez Echargui (NEV) 6-4, 7-5
Quentin Mege (NEV) def. Steven Young (AF) 6-4, 6-3
Victor Ouvrard (NEV) def. Grant Taylor (AF) 6-2, 6-4
Alex Grubbs (AF) def. Fernando Sunago (NEV) 6-3, 6-4
Andrew Poustie (NEV) def. Andy Jackson (AF) 6-1, 6-4
Robert Allan (NEV) def. Andrew Parks (AF) 6-4, 3-6, 7-5
Doubles Competition
Lance Wilhelm/Grant Taylor (AF) def. Moez Echargui/Quentin Mege (NEV) 8-5
Fernando Sunago/Andrew Poustie (NEV) def. Alex Grubbs/Jack McCullers (AF) 8-6
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Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman exposes the "gigantic con game" that is Republican electoral strategy. Contrary to GOP distortions (including Romney's), spending has gone down under Obama, actually to the detriment of the economy. The GOP has obstructed further stimulus and insisted on continuing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. These policies have been harmful–and because of that, the Republicans will continue upholding them in their quest for victory in November. The administration has been too reticent in "exposing the con"; Krugman advises Obama to adopt a Harry Truman "give 'em hell" stance toward the "do-nothing" Republicans in Congress. Excerpts follow from "This Republican Economy":
What should be done about the economy? Republicans claim to have the answer: slash spending and cut taxes. What they hope voters won't notice is that that's precisely the policy we've been following the past couple of years. Never mind the Democrat in the White House; for all practical purposes, this is already the economic policy of Republican dreams.
So the Republican electoral strategy is, in effect, a gigantic con game: it depends on convincing voters that the bad economy is the result of big-spending policies that President Obama hasn't followed (in large part because the G.O.P. wouldn't let him), and that our woes can be cured by pursuing more of the same policies that have already failed.
...Isn't Mr. Obama a big spender? Actually, no; there was a brief burst of spending in late 2009 and early 2010 as the stimulus kicked in, but that boost is long behind us. Since then it has been all downhill. Cash-strapped state and local governments have laid off teachers, firefighters and police officers; meanwhile, unemployment benefits have been trailing off even though unemployment remains extremely high.
...[The Obama administration's] best bet, surely, is to do a Harry Truman, to run against the "do-nothing" Republican Congress that has, in reality, blocked proposals — for tax cuts as well as more spending — that would have made 2012 a much better year than it's turning out to be.
For that, in the end, is the best argument against Republicans' claims that they can fix the economy. The fact is that we have already seen the Republican economic future — and it doesn't work.


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Nobody is ever going to list the TV remote as one of the most important inventions of all time. Maybe not even of the second half of the 20th century. But if the remote had never been invented, life would be meaningfully different. Think about it: if we all still had to get up from our couches and trudge across the room to change the station, there'd be no such thing as channel surfing. (Then again, we'd be thinner from the calories we burned.) Dealing with more than a handful of stations would be impossibly unwieldy, too -- no remote control, no 500-channel universe.
In short, the TV remote matters -- and it's it worth pausing to remember some of the most significant models to appear since 1950, plus a not-so-significant curiosity or two.
Lazy, indeed
In 1950, Zenith introduced America to the whole mindbending idea of controlling a TV from across the room. It did so with a remote with an inspired name: Lazy Bones. (Too bad it didn't catch on as a generic term for the entire category.) Lazy Bones only let you change the station. And it's not clear in this ad, but it was a wired remote. Even that was a mighty appealing concept -and wired remotes lasted at least into the 1980s. (My first VCR had one.)
Shoot your TV
Five years later, Zenith rendered Lazy Bones obsolete with Flash-Matic, its first wireless remote. It resembled a Buck Rogers ray-gun, and people using it in ads looked alarmingly like they were zapping their TV sets. But it was pretty much just a flashlight: you performed different functions by aiming it at different corners of the screen. One of its innovations: you could use it to mute the audio, which Zenith promoted as being a great antidote to pesky commercials.


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Beretta Neos. Great gun and easy to clean.
Kerbouchard has a great thread about it.
This is a discussion on .22 Semi Auto within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I am looking for .22 semi auto for target shooting. I had a Ruger .22/45 mk III and found that it was a pain to ...
I am looking for .22 semi auto for target shooting. I had a Ruger .22/45 mk III and found that it was a pain to clean. Any ideas on a .22 that is enjoyable to shoot and not too difficult to break down would be appreciated.
Beretta Neos. Great gun and easy to clean.
Kerbouchard has a great thread about it.
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An older S&W Model 41 would be an ultimate .22 target gun for you.
The downside is magazines are a bit expensive.
What a high quality tack driver.
Without a doubt it's the most accurate handgun that I own.
Easy to field strip and clean the barrel and slide.
Just pull down on the trigger guard and the entire barrel lifts off.
Then removing the slide is a breeze.
Not too easy to do a full/complete disassembly on but I never take mine all the way down anyway.
I just remove the grips and solvent soak the frame (a solvent mix of mineral spirits and Hoppes #9) - It's reusable BTW & I just keep a tight lid on the can...slosh the frame fully assembled around in there...NEXT..power spray it out internally with spray degreaser contact cleaner...and then spray lube it internally and let the excess lubrication drain out onto paper towels overnight and it's ready to go.
The frame internals never get really dirty or caked with good quality rimfire ammo ammunition.
I clean my barrel/bore after shooting and the frame internals maybe every dozen or so times that I have it out.
I just wipe the exterior of the pistol with a lightly oiled cloth.
Mine has been running flawlessly for 20+ years and never gets fully taken apart.
It's just not necessary.
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As has also been mentioned, the Beretta Neos is a great gun (even though it looks like it's from a Star Wars movie); the Browning Buckmark is also great, but they're tough to find and I'm not sure they are any easier to clean than the Rugers.
I'll second the S&W 41 or a High Standard. I have a "The Victor" that I love.
I would say go with the Neos...breeze to take down, very accurate, reliable with bulk ammo, and the price was very reasonable.
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I'm happy with my Browning Buckmark, I paid $185 for it and it's a champ, pending on what model you get, they can be hard to take apart, mine is, but that's OK, I like the gun.
It may not be the prettiest thing, but it sure does shoot.
S&W 22A: reliable, accurate, easy to clean & won't break the bank.
The situation will NEVER BE THE WAY YOU WANT, it WILL BE THE WAY IT IS. You must be FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO ADAPT and just "DEAL WITH IT".
S&W 22a run about 219.00 at academy sports ,you might find them a little cheaper
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--Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .
I just got myself an old S&W 422. Great gun, and fun.
If you are looking for something that operates the same way as your carry pistol, look into a Walther P22 or Sig Mosquito.
The P22 had a little bit of a rocky start, but if you buy a new one, they are pretty solid. I've had no troubles with mine at all. My only complaint is that I need a cleaning rod to keep the recoil spring from buckling during re-assembly.
"A well-educated electorate, being necessary to the continuance of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed."
Is this hard to understand? Then why does it get unintelligible to some people when 5 little words are changed?
If you still have the Ruger, I would stick with it and learn to master the take down procedure. It is a little tough when you first start to learn it.
There is a GREAT article on how to do this, here:
And, here's a photo of my Mark II (50th Anniversary Edition)
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch; Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
-- Benjamin Franklin
I'll second the Buckmark. It is a great inexpensive way to practice
Obviously not mine but I have one just like it.
Buck Mark Standard URX,
I like the Rugers the best, and they really are not hard to take down and get back together once you learn how. They are a total PIA though at first.
The Brownings are great too, just not as much aftermarket support.
"Just blame Sixto"
I reserve the right to make fun, point and laugh etc.
I'd stick with the Rugers, after you break it down a couple of dozen times it isn't that hard.
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I talked to him last week after finding out that he also makes holsters, he sent a catalog that arrived here in the DFW metroplex Thursday. My guess is that you are on the chasing end of a phone/ email tag game
For what it's worth,
This is a discussion on Bullman gunleather help. within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I hate doing this but does anyone know what is going on with Bullman gunleather? I have called and their answering machine is full, they ...
I hate doing this but does anyone know what is going on with Bullman gunleather? I have called and their answering machine is full, they are not responding to emails either.
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I talked to him last week after finding out that he also makes holsters, he sent a catalog that arrived here in the DFW metroplex Thursday. My guess is that you are on the chasing end of a phone/ email tag game
For what it's worth,
I ordered the OWB snap loop last last early November. Checked numerous times by phone and email with no response. Canceled the order in Feb by email and phone voice mail message. Ordered 2 holsters from Alessi. In April, the hoslter arrives from Bulman leather. Decided to at least open the box before returning it, my mistake. Great fit and quality, to good for returning. The Alessi arrives a couple of months later, Fantastic holster.
Th Bulman has a sweat guard, great for under a Tshirt and Alessi does not. Fit for my HKSK is perfect in the Alessi but decided to keep both. One for 3 month summer and the Alessi for the other months. Overall, Alessi 10+ and Bulman 9.5. You will be very happy when it arrives or order from Alessi and have two like me.
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I spoke to Josh on the phone about 2 months ago when I placed a big order with him. He said at least 6 months on delivery but I do not expect to see them for a year. In my honest opinion, he is the second best leather maker out there right behind Matt Del Fatti so a 1 year wait is acceptable to me. I am also in line for an Alessi CQC-S which is probably a 1 year wait. The top guys have long waits.
Keep trying to get in touch with him.
The above experiences are typical. Great products at fair prices and arguably the worst communicator and time-line prognosticator of all time. The best way to get a Bulman holster is from Heirloom Precision. No fuss, no muss and no hogwash.
"Happiness, is a warm gun" -St. John of Liverpool
Proud to be an infidel.
I have been successful at randomly getting him via phone on two occasions after many attempts. Forget about email responses. I ordered a PDL last year and was quoted 5 months. I actually received it around the 5-6 mo. mark. He is touch to get a hold off, keep trying.
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.
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Thanks ya'al. Kinda frustrating that there is no response from someone who already has my money. I'll hold off and see what happens.
"Respect all ... Fear none!!!
I ordered from Bullman last year about the same time I ordered a vm2 from Milt Sparks. Both quoted the same time and both should have been here around the first of the year. The Milt Sparks showed up a few days after the new year, right on the quote time. The Bullman showed up a few weeks ago.
The quality, fit and feel of the Bullman is great, especially compared to the VM2 where the gun is too sloppy in the holster for my taste. I'm really not satisfied with the Milt Sparks at all but I'll be ordering from Bullman again very shortly. Everyone that I've showed the two holsters to agrees that there is no comparison to fit and feel. I just wish the delivery time was closer to the quoted time. I always say I would rather be quoted 1 year and delivered in 11 months rather than qouted 6 months and delivered in 11.
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That's the first time I've heard of a bad fit on a Milt Sparks holster. I bet one phone call can fix that.
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"Happiness, is a warm gun" -St. John of Liverpool
Proud to be an infidel.
FWIW, 6 Milt Sparks holsters here (and a number of mag holders too). All are top notch fit and finish.
I've never seen a Bullman in person, but I've heard great things about them. People I respect recommend them. So I'd guess very worth the wait!
Regards, T Bone.
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Below are our standardised ISO test shots, starting with the Sony NEX-6's lowest standard setting of ISO 100 and rising incrementally to the top setting of ISO 25,600.
ISO 100 – the full test scene
ISO 100 – 100% crop
ISO 200 – 100% crop
ISO 400 – 100% crop
Up until ISO 400 the NEX-6 produces clean, noise-free images.
ISO 800 – 100% crop
Some chroma noise does begin to appear by around ISO 400, although this does tend to be confined to areas of little detail and isn't a huge problem.
ISO 1600 – 100% crop
ISO 3200 – 100% crop
ISO 3200 – full-size
At higher sensitivities the NEX-6 proves to be effective at processing out noise from shadow areas, with images retaining a good deal of integrity in terms of colour and white balance.
ISO 6400 – 100% crop
ISO 12,800 – 100% crop
ISO 25,600 – 100% crop
ISO 25,600 – full size
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Why no mention of the ISO standard hotshoe? Along with the EVF, for many that is also a big reason to go for 6 over the 5R.
Good review as usual. Couple of points/questions. The phrase "JPEGs are processed effectively enough to elevate them over the standard of Raw files" doesn't make sense. Possibly worth a sentence of explanation in future reviews if you're going to mention raw files, or leave out completely.
Separate but related point, White Balance accuracy is irrelevant for a lot of raw shooters.
Also, probably unfair to base the view of camera quality on the kit lens. They're not usually that good are they? Apart from rare examples in more expensive kits (when you could argue they're not really "kit lenses"). I know lots of people stick with the kit lens (yes yes, why buy an ILC etc etc) but the shouldn't the point be "the kit lens isn't great so that's your first upgrade"?
I'm happy with the camera being judged as sold, with maybe a caveat that IQ improvements are available to those who wish to spend more money on replacement lenses. But if so, then the total cost of achieving the higher IQ needs to be shown in contention with alternative solutions at the higher price.
In other words, if I want to realise the camera's maximum potential IQ over the focal lengths covered by the kit lens, how much extra will I need to spend on replacing the kit lens, and what else could I buy at that higher total price?
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Skateboarders are nasty little devils. They deface public property, buzz little old ladies in walkers and generally thumb their noses at authority. But when the South Hills Evangelical Church (SHEC) approached Missoula County with a proposal to forge a partnership and build a skate park for local kids, it wasn't the punk stigma the church had to deal with. Instead, SHEC's effort has stumbled because of its status as a religious organization.
On May 8, SHEC and the church's rock and roll youth organizations—In One Ear Ministries and Flipside Skate Park—met with the Missoula County Park Board with a proposal to lease land from the county to build an in-door skate park, teen center, concert hall, community center and church. The initial proposal wowed many on the board, which voted unanimously to form a sub-committee to examine the facility's feasibility.
"They had an excellent presentation," says Missoula County Commissioner and Park Board member Barbara Evans. "It was one of the best presentations I've ever seen."
All signs pointed to go until the sub-committee met with Deputy County Attorney Mike Sehestedt. When Sehestedt took a look at the plans, he saw constitutional and logistical red flags everywhere. The plan would force an overhaul of the citizen-approved Fort Missoula Regional Park Master Plan, and it would cost more than the Park Board has to spend, he told the board. All those problems might be solvable, but Sehestedt also saw a more fundamental, perhaps insurmountable obstacle. According to a letter written by Park Board staffer Lisa Moisey to SHEC, the major concern centered on "the County becoming unduly entangled in a relationship with a religious organization."
"What they want to put up is a sanctuary that can also be used as a skate park," says Sehestedt, pointing out that SHEC's facility would have a decidedly religious bent to it. "[It would involve] government support of religion, and then we are going to be entangled with them, since we'll have to administer this agreement."
Sitting in his office overlooking SHEC's skate park—thrown up temporarily in the church parking lot—Pastor John Erbele is baffled over the sub-committee's letter. Is it religious discrimination? He says he "doesn't want to go there yet," but adds that he believes the letter carries a discriminating tone.
Erbele says the logistical problems are easily remedied. The church plans to fund the entire project and has already lined up corporate sponsors to help, and there is nothing in the master park plan that disallows a skate park. This leaves the county opposing the project based solely on religion, he says.
The SHEC flock has spent the last few years courting skateboarders and others who traditionally fall through the religious cracks (see "Christian Cool," by Jed Gottlieb, Sept. 9, 2003). This and other non-traditional approaches have led to an attendance boom, and attendant growing pains. The congregation no longer fits in its building and is searching for a new location, while holding services at the Meadow Hill Public School.
"We don't want to spend $2 million on a building that's only used once a week," says Erbele. "We're actually trying to do this county a favor. Yeah, we could do this somewhere else, but we want to do this with the county to create something positive for the community."
Erbele says that the city and county need to find a way to work with skateboarders. The current Missoula City Council initiative to ban skateboarding on city sidewalks is only going to heighten tensions and accomplish nothing, he says. And even with Pearl Jam's commitment of $50,000 to develop a public skate park in Missoula, and its urging of boarders to get involved in public process, Erbele says neither the city nor county will ever actually build a park.
"They won't take the liability," he says. "I told the Park Board that they wouldn't build a skate park because of this and they all laughed because they knew I was right."
But even SHEC's offer to remove the liability hasn't helped change Sehestedt's mind.
During the board's June 12 meeting, he elaborated on the concerns voiced in the letter. He said that the county would have a hard time "justifying this relationship," later adding that it would be "unprecedented."
While the county does lease facilities like park pavilions to churches and other groups, SHEC's proposal is for a long-term lease agreement at a facility run by a religious group—a deal-breaker in the deputy attorney's estimation.
When Erbele took the mic at the meeting to counteract Sehestedt, he put on his Sunday service game face. With the room full of SHEC parishioners and skateboarders, Erbele picked over the attorney's argument, hoping to win the board over. Something in Erbele's speech registered. Though many expected the proposal to die that day, the board recommended that it be tabled until the parties could examine the proposal more closely and search for a way to make it work.
Whatever the outcome, SHEC won't be breaking ground on county land for quite some time.
"I would say that the timeline is lengthier than SHEC thinks it will be," says board President Sue Brown. "They are going to be disappointed, I think, to find out what a long process this is."
Until a decision is made, Missoula's SHEC skaters will have to hoof it up the hill to Flipside's church parking lot or use the YMCA park. And SHEC will have to continue to make due at the public school.


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