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According to Anthony the Medical Medium oral care is quite an important part of our health. It's important for us to take care of our wonderful teeth to avoid getting cavities. Those pesky cavities as we know cause so many unwanted problems such as mercury fillings, root canals or even a ton of emotional stress. All of those problems can cause viruses or bacteria to flourish, which can really set back a person who is trying to heal.
As soon as I learned all of this on his Oral Care radio show, I went straight to his website and changed my entire oral care routine. His site led me to some products by Living Libations . Nadine Artemis demonstrates step by step instructions on practicing proper oral care. She is also the creator of Living Libations and does tons of public appearances teaching people about healthy oral care as well as skincare.
I've been using her practices for about 6 months now and am very very pleased with the results. But what has been more exciting was to hear my dentist say that my gums and teeth were in excellent health. Over the past 20 years I have only had 2 cavities!!!!
it helped me healing all the problems in my mouth, it's amazing!!
It keeps the whole family with healthy teeth.
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This serum was my first step away from the dental care I grew up with (that most of us grew up with) into a holistic approach to dental health. I take advantage of it's versatility.
PS It had been 4 years since my last visit, but I braved a dental check-up this summer. I was so intimidated that I told them it had only been one year. The check-up was successful - even my translucent tooth tips have filled back in in the last 6 months. Liberating!
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The Yogi Tooth Serum, combined with Dr Tung's Smart Floss is my foolproof dynamic duo for healthy teeth and gums - the rich planty aromas make your mouth go 'ahhh'!. I have been using the tooth serum as a flossing serum until now, but since watching Nadine's tutorial, I'll also be using it as a replacement toothpaste.
I cannot say enough about the Yogi Tooth serum, but I will.....
I LOVE everything about it! The potency, the taste, the smell, the effectiveness. It works, this is a product that delivers and that I can never be without! I wish I would of found it sooner. After I brush with my Neem toothpaste,I put it on my floss and run it between each tooth. I also at times put a drop on my hand and then slide my toothbrush through it and go around my gums. I have the Healthy Gum Drops as well, it is nice and wonderful in its own right. However this one is the one, it speaks to the "knowing" part of me. I plan on ordering more of your beautiful health giving formulations for my skin too. Thank you, I feel like my body is blessed to be using your products. <3
Just went to the dentist this morning. The hygienist said my gums looked so pink and healthy, and not too much build up considering I hadn't been in for 2 years! I mentioned I used your Yogi Teeth Serum to clean my teeth and massage gums...she was intrigued, and told me to keep doing what I'm doing. Now she's interested in your products
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My husband and I love your products. Your tooth serums have helped immensely...no more sensitivities and the gums and teeth feel stronger.
First I just wanted to thank you guys for your oral health products! They are fantastic and I could never go back to regular tooth paste! Thank you so very much for such great quality products!!!!
:D! the yogi teeth serum & neem enameliser have saved my teeth. & i made my own lotion w/ your cape chamomile & manuka oils
I also experienced one of their oral care products, the Yogi Teeth Serum. This is a blend of essential oils that you put on your toothbrush or add to some water to make a mouthwash. It contains clove, cinnamon, neem and a few other oils that create a very antibacterial serum. This means that you can keep gum disease at bay and keep your breath fresh. It has a very spicy taste. And makes your entire mouth feel oh so clean. I had a few problems with gum sensitivity for a while. Ever since I had my daughter, my gums were more sensitive and sometimes would bleed in certain areas. After using the teeth serum thats totally gone! Some customers have said that its helped heal cavities as well!
I had started just putting a drop or two of the Digest & Immune into some water and sipping on it during the day. I can already tell an improvement on my acid reflux. I found the instructions for the dry brushing and did that the last two nights. I'm not sure which is helping on this, but I've not had double vision for the last two days. I can't tell you how long it's been since I've had a day without double vision! :D
BTW, I've been using your Healthy Gum Drops/Yogi Serum for the last 10 months. My dentist loves the results. \0/
I have also been using Zen Shave in my hair as well almost as a pomade, and it is by far the best male skin product I have ever used.
I had been struggling with sensitive teeth for a few years. The toothpastes available in the market offered temporary relief and I was genuinely concerned about the state of my teeth. Yogi Tooth Serum along with the Neem Enamelizer, worked wonders for my teeth within weeks. So I'm encouraged to check out other dental and oral care products as well.
"Yogi Tooth Serum makes me scream!
I've been using the whole dental kit including Healthy Gum Drops for about a year: all the while thinking they are superior to any other dental products I've ever used. It wasn't until just now I tried the Yogi Tooth Serum.
I'm completely shocked. The moment I finished brushing, I ran to the computer to write a review. It's so good, and I like it so much better than the HGD, and for the minuscule price increase, it is an exponential improvement on an already amazing product.
Thanks Nadine. You're the best!"
"In addition to being a great tooth serum to keep whole mouth clean and gleaming, I have to add that it is also a FANTASTIC breath freshener to put in mouth, just a drop or two on its own.
Important meeting or date? Why not try this... Won't need to pop a mint any more! Living Libations is so pure, I adore exploring to get creative uses out of their products :)
Yogi Tooth Serum = great mint alternative too!!! Woo hoo!"
"Oh how I love the cinnamon in this tooth serum!!! I have used conventional toothpastes with cinnamon in the past, and needless to say, I recall the artificial taste off them right away (a revelation that comes after only tasting the pure and true Living Libations). ALL of the ingredients in this are deep, just as a yogi is. Reminds me of a cozy fireplace, a Christmas delight, a spiritual mass/church gathering deep in prayer, connecting to the divine.
It tastes deep, but exciting; soothes at night and kickstarts the morning energetically too - stimulating through the mouth it affects the mood it feels, just from the wonderful taste!
Keeps breath fresh for a long time. This also had my teeth go whiter I noticed :) Thumbs up!"
I've been using your dental care products for about three weeks now (LOVE the way my teeth feel!) and today I went to the dentist for a cleaning. The whole appointment took about 15 minutes. The hygienist told me that my teeth were so clean that I had left her nothing to work on - lol! Thank you!
"The Yogi Tooth serum is for that genuine deep cleansing.
Yogi Tooth Serum is the strongest product in this line. It has a taste that is more 'green', earthy, bitter and spicy than the other tooth serums (which have a more sweet fresh scent).
This will really clean down to the very roots! - and you can feel it.
I think it's great to have two entirely different tooth serums to choose between, as they both have their specific qualities.
I especially liked this serum during the wintertime..."
I LOVE this tooth serum. I no longer use any toothpaste/powder or oils from anywhere else, The Yogi Tooth Serum is in a very high class of it's own. I love it and look forward to cleaning my mouth everyday :)
I like healthy gum drops better but this is a good product. It's a little bit strong and medicinal. It takes some getting used to. Healthy gum drops has a better flavor but both leave your mouth feeling clean and refreshed. Breath smells good for hours.
I forgot how potent the Yogi Tooth Serum is. That stuff is amazing. I have been thinking about how it serves a double purpose - first it cleans out the mouth and then it goes down into the stomach and cleans that out too.
"Both Tooth Serums are excellent!
I can't get over how powerful the combination of neem oil with mastic, cinnamon and clove is and how virulent it is in terms of eliminating bad bacteria.
I just wanted to take time to thank you for creating, and sharing, your Yogi Tooth Serum and Healthy Gums oil. I used them for the first time a few days ago and was instantly hooked! I had that right after the dentist clean feel without the danger or expense of an actual dental visit. I will never, ever, use toothpaste or gel again! You are a wonderful light sent to heal the earth!
I have recently tried your Yogi Teeth products and am very impressed.
I received the Yogi Tooth Serum last night along with the ChocolateKarat Serum. I tried them both and my teeth felt SO clean and fresh... And my face so moisturized and relaxed.
"Holy Wow, Nadine, your stuff is AMAZING!!!!
I'm just putting one drop of the yogi tooth serum on my tooth brush and my teeth feel so clean. I don't think I'll ever buy toothpaste again!"
"Thank you so much Nadine for this amazing creation, I will never go back to icky toothpaste.
I wanted to wait about a week before i reviewed this product but I just couldnt wait. Results are instant, my mouth feels amazing some plaque has already been removed from the bottom front teeth, I got this amzing spicy warm sensation in my mouth and could just really feel it work! I am trying the healthy gum drops tonight with some floss and I just cant wait! :)"
I recently ordered your tooth serum and gum drops - life changing products! And, I have listened to your tooth talks, fabulous too!
I met Nadine and Ron at David Wolfe's Longevity Conference and tried the Yogi Tooth Serum and Gum Drops after Nadine's amazing talk. I have a receding gum line and the serum and drops have really helped with the nerve sensitivity. My mouth feels so clean and fresh, I love it. I should also say that when I first heard a talk that Nadine gave, I bought essential oils at my local health food store. Once I tried Living Libations, the quality was a night and day difference. While they are more expensive, a small drop goes a long way. And, I also must say that Nadine and Ron are both really beautiful people. Physically they radiate health but they were also so warm and sincere. I can't say enough positive things about them and their products!
Very powerful and effective tooth serum for killing plaque, bacteria, and germs. I take it in my purse everywhere. Great if you have a cold it just kills the germs and bad breath. It's sooo fabulous, won't let anyone kiss me until they share this product. mxx
Nadine and Ron, Thank you so much for making such a beautiful product. I received my order yesterday and am grateful to you both for making something like this available to others.
"Save your teeth before it is too late!
Throw away your toothpaste and feel great!
The yogis knew more than you.
They kept their teeth looking brand new.
With cinnamon, clove and neem.
A bright new smile, fresh and clean.
I love Yogi Tooth Truth Serum.
Have the Best Night Ever!!!!"
"Just wanted to write and thank you for sending out the Yogi Tooth Serum, received several days ago.
Also wanted to say that your products are nothing short of AMAZING! You truly are gifted! I have tried many essential oil preparations and had to throw them all away. Your products are effective without being harsh. I don't know how you do it, but I'm glad you do!
Thank you for the products you make available. I am anticipating my next order already!"
I love this protocol by the way! I saw it on David's Longevity conference and I've watched it three times to make sure I got the protocol down right. I even printed out the instructions for both of us and I have mine taped on my mirror. I can't believe how much better my teeth and mouth feels each time I do this. So happy you put this out for everyone's benefit. I am hoping to heal two tiny cavities – got a bet with my dentist that they will be gone when my dental insurance has some room again in January
"I ordered this product and have been fascinated and captivated by it. I love how simple my brushing routine has become and how clean my teeth feel afterwards. I love that I no longer need tooth paste and that my serum is only made up of 4 ingredients. Simple living is so fun and beautiful.
Also, after using the drops for 3 weeks, I looked in the mirror and noticed my teeth have become whiter! I was not expecting this at all but am so grateful . Whiter teeth has been on my list of things to work on and your product is helping. I feel so amazing and more in touch with nature and the environment by using your wonderful creations. Thank you, thank you, thank you! xo"
"What can I say, I am obsessed! I have been dealing with healing severe TMJ for the last few years (I have had migraines for about 11 years and finally found out the huge issues with my jaw) and my mouth has just been a ""hot"" area in my body that I have had to heal, all together. I have receding gums and teeth moving all over the place. I expanded my upper jaw by nine mm and now I am completely the process of aligning my jaw. I have been trying to put as much positive healing energy into this area of my body and I take my teeth and mouth very seriously now. I found this product from the Raw Food World and was immediately intrigued. I have gotten rid of my regular toothpaste and have a completely new routine now. These oils make my mouth feel so much better and I feel like I have taken on a completely new healing process. I am so grateful to Nadine for this product and I am about the order one of the essential medicine kits to continue my healing through the immense pain and bring myself into a new place in life.
Thank you so much Nadine!
I will definitely post this on my blog soon as well to share - www.rawpeach.wordpress.com"
I'm a super taster so the Yogi Tooth Serum is really bitter tasting for me, but holy whiter teeth! I'm in my 50s and within a couple of weeks of using the drops, along with a couple of scrubs of Himalayan sea salt, my teeth are noticeably whiter and my mouth feels so clean and fresh. Love it! Thank you for the excellent step-by-step dental care guide - I'm following it to the letter - who knew you don't need toothpaste!! - and my teeth & gums are so healthy now! I plan to try the milder gum drops just to compare, but this has really revolutionized my dental care routine. Thank you again!
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2001 X5 Control Arms or Struts?
Hi all,
I am having front end control issues with my 2001 BMW X5. The front end is tracking back and forth when I am driving and I am constantly "fighting" my car to keep it aligned from left to right in the drive lane. For example, when I hit a groove in the road the
will track into that groove and I have to fight the car to keep it aligned.
BMW said I needed front lower control arms. Another reputable auto shop in my area said that I needed front strut assemblies on both sides but not control arms. I went back to BMW and they said my struts are fine!? At this point I am not sure who to believe.
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are wearing unevenly with the inside tire wear worse than the outer.
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Today, I've finished teaching the third in a three-year cycle of classes for a Doctor of Ministry cohort for Fuller Theological Seminary. This year's subject matter was Fiction, Film, and Christian Spirituality. I presented the following lecture on on of my favorite novels, and one of my least favorite films.
Walter M. Miller, Jr.'s A Canticle for Leibowitz (hereafter CL) is a masterwork of science fiction, standing among the most renowned novels in that genre.[1] The same cannot be said of the 2010 Denzel Washington vehicle, The Book of Eli (BE). While both deal with themes of religion and text in a dystopian, post-apocalyptic America, the former does so deftly and the latter, well, less so.
Miller was a tortured genius. In the 1950s, after serving in World War II, he wrote three dozen short stories for popular science fiction magazines. Three of those, he heavily revised and published, together, as CL in 1959. He never published another word in his lifetime. Always odd, and likely suffering from PTSD, he grew increasingly reclusive in his later years, ultimately taking his own life in 1996 at age 72.
CL's themes are many and scintillating. Not only did Miller's own experience in WWII and the bombing of the monastery at Monte Cassino affect him, so did his work as an electrical engineer and, most significantly, his conversion to Roman Catholicism after the war.
The first theme to investigate is technology. At first blush, it would seem that CL, like any post-nuclear-apocalypse story, takes a dim view of technology. But Miller is no technophobe. Here, for example, is how David M. Samuelson compares him to the greatest Christian science fiction writer of the 20th century[2]:
In CL, technology and religion run parallel, as Samuelson notes. But Miller seems less than "technophilic." Instead, it seems that both technology and religion generate ambivalent feelings for him. On the one hand, the rise of technology destroyed much of civilization, on the other hand, the Simpletons who destroyed almost all human knowledge in the Simplification are clearly portrayed in a bad light. In the middle section of the book, "Fiat Lux," the (re)invention of the lightbulb is a significant advance, even if it is seen dubiously by some of the more skeptical monks of the order.


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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - British pop singer Amy Winehouse, whose rapid descent from promising newcomer to emaciated junkie played out in the full glare of the public eye last year, took home five Grammy Awards on Sunday.
But jazz veteran Herbie Hancock was the shock winner of the coveted album of the year award, preventing Winehouse from enjoying a historic clean sweep.
Winehouse, 24, did win the key awards for record and song of the year for her hit tune "Rehab," as well as best new artist. Her haul was rounded out by the female pop vocal solo performance for "Rehab," and pop vocal album for "Back to Black," her breakthrough release.
Hip-hop star Kanye West, 30, who led all Grammy contenders with eight nominations, ended up with four awards. He was hoping for his first album of the year win, after losing with his two previous releases.
Yet it was Hancock who claimed the best album Grammy for "River: The Joni Letters," a tribute to Canadian singer/songwriter Joni Mitchell. He also won the contemporary jazz album Grammy, bringing his career haul to 12. Virtually no one among the Grammy pundits had expected him to take the big prize. Even his nomination was a surprise.
"What a beautiful day this is in Los Angeles," Hancock said, as he took the stage at the Staples Center to pick up the album of the year award. "Joni Mitchell, Joni Mitchell, Joni Mitchell, thank you so much."
He said it was 43 years since a jazz artist won the album of the year award: Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto's "Getz/Gilberto."
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Prince William and his new bride Kate could have gone anywhere on the planet for their honeymoon, but as reported by the United Kingdom's Daily Mail, on the morning of May 10th they arrived in the Seychelles.
Perhaps their decision was influenced by their earlier visit, which went smoothly and resulted in no indecent photos. After all, Desroches Island is an ideal location for keeping intruders at bay, thereby reducing security concerns. For this reason, not to mention incomparable beauty, many destinations in the the Seychelles receive their fair share of celebrities, from tennis stars and footballers to movie stars and, of course, royalty. The rich and famous keep coming back, although the Seychelles is also a destination to be enjoyed by anyone (http://www.thetravelword.com/
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Volvo Ocean Race - Camper moves in on front runners
by Lucy Harwood on 13 Jun 2012
The guys on watch onboard CAMPER with Emirates Team New Zealand during leg 8 of the Volvo Ocean Race 2011-12 Hamish Hooper/Camper ETNZ/Volvo Ocean Race©
Volvo Ocean Race 2011-12 first section of the eighth leg, from Lisbon to Lorient, is drawing to a close as the fleet approach the Azores High. The lead the front runners have held over Camper is being eaten away as the boats compress in the light airs of the high pressure system that dominates the area.
'As we have come into the high pressure system, there has been good compression in the fleet. What took these guys 30 hours to do to us, we have pulled back in four hours,' commented Trimmer, Rob Salthouse. 'We are just trying to work our way through the high pressure system now, we just had a good little puff, so we are going to try and capitalise and squeeze our way through.'
'Sometimes there are benefits coming up behind these guys. They show you where the light patches are first and you can work your way round. We've had the guys up the rig today quite a bit to get a good view of what's happening breeze wise, so we've been in better pressure to leeward, which is working quite nicely at the moment. Hopefully that will pay.'
Once rounding the Island of San Miguel the boats will turn towards Lorient, France and hook into the forecasted fast downwind conditions. Watch Captain Stu Bannaytne is hoping the next weather system will provide good conditions for Camper, 'When we get into the high here, there is a chance to get back into it, and the forecast for the other side of the high pressure is starting to get quite interesting. There's potentially a very big breeze and downwind sailing - very scary stuff.'
The fleet expect to face downwind, fast reaching conditions with winds between 35 - 45 knots. Skipper Chris Nicholson is looking forward to the opportunity to put the hammer down for the final section of the leg, 'We think we're pretty good in those conditions, but to take these boats into 30 - 40 knots downwind, anything can and will happen. We are already planning how we will deal with all the situations ahead. We won't leave any stone
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We hope that you and your Emmanuel student are having an enjoyable summer. We are very excited to welcome you and your student to Emmanuel College and we are writing to provide some information about what you can expect on New Student Welcome Day, Sunday, September 4, 2016. Your student has received this information as well.
While the primary task for resident students is to move-in and begin to get their room settled, the college provides several "Welcome" activities for all new students and their families.
Schedule of Events on Sunday, September 4
8:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m.Resident Student Move-In
2:00 p.m.Commuter Student Check-In and Welcome
2:00 p.m.Sundae Funday! Family Ice Cream Social & Lawn Games
4:30 p.m.Family Liturgy
5:30 p.m.President's Welcome and Presentation of Class Banner
6:00 p.m.Class Photo
6:15 p.m.Family BBQ
7:15 p.m.Families depart and commuter and resident student programs continue
Last but not least, we know that in addition to being an exciting, positive and wonderful day, this can also be a difficult and emotional time for parents and family members and students too. We want to share a Boston Globe column by Beverly Beckham reflecting on sending her children off to college. We want to assure you that we are thinking about you at this time of new beginning in your daughter or son's life and that we never forget that our students are your children.
Best of luck with your son or daughter's final preparations for college.
If you have any questions, please call us at 617-735-9917.
Dr. Joe Onofrietti, Dean of Students
Mary Beth Thomas, Assistant Dean of Students


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- - Should I intervene in puppy play? (http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/puppy-behavior/196432-should-i-intervene-puppy-play.html)
Should I intervene in puppy play?
Hi all,
I have 2 German Shepherds; a 10 month old female named Heidi and a 13 week old male named Zakk.
Heidi has always been a really gentle, friendly pup and absolutely adores Zakk. Zakk obviously loves her too and spends most of his time with her.
My question is around their rumbles. Zakk seems to get a bit fired up at times and I'm not sure whether I should be stepping in or letting them sort it out themselves (have been doing this so far). Heidi plays nice and will lie down and let him climb on top, the problem is that when he gets on top he seems to change a bit - his nose crinkles up and he sounds quite savage... well as savage as a 13 week old pup can :) He obviously can't really damage her yet and when he does hurt her with the needles he calls teeth, she just stands up which knocks him over and continues on with the game. He does get a bit rough at times when he is not on top trying to pin her down too. It seems that if she gets a bit much for him, rather than yelping and stepping away like most puppies, he fires up and attempts to hurt her back - she would never deliberately hurt him but is over twice his size so accidents happen.
I was expecting her to correct him... basically tell him off for playing too rough. I have had multiple dogs before (always a female first and male second) and in previous cases the female has always told the pup what's allowed and what isn't. Maybe I got him while she was still a bit too young to take on this role?... either way it's a bit late to change that now.
Right from the start he would steal treats from her, and try to take over her food bowl when he had finished his dinner (she let him). I did step in here and now he knows that he has to wait until she has also finished eating before he can go and lick her bowl. Occasionally he will still grab a treat from her but when I take it back off him, he accepts that and just eats his own.
I'm in 2 minds about the play though.
1.) I ignore it and let them sort it out - Heidi needs to learn to either end the game or tell him off when things get too rough. I'm not always going to be here to do something about it due to work, so she needs to take control. Even if she was putting him in his place now, Zakk will eventually be top dog... he's going to be bigger and her personality is definitely more wanting to be a pack member than leader... so do I just let him take top position now?
2.) I pull him off and correct him. He's getting towards the age where he'll be going to the dog park in a few weeks and I don't want to see him trying this type of play with dogs he doesn't know. I am also a little concerned that if this keeps up the way it is going, he will hurt her when he gets bigger.
I don't think he is an evil puppy, he just doesn't realise that he shouldn't be playing at the level he is. At puppy preschool he was quiet for the most part, kept by me for the first couple of weeks and just watched the other dogs play without getting involved himself. He did come out of his shell in the last couple of lessons and was fine with all the other puppies.. bar one; a cattle dog that had been going round humping all the other pups each week. Zakk seemed to realise he was bigger so everytime he saw that going on, he would head over and knock the cattle dog over and hump him... which even the cattle dogs owners found amusing to watch.
Anyway, just figured I'd ask if anyone had suggestions on the best way to deal with it? Or am I just worrying about nothing? It's been a long time since I had 2 puppies so maybe I just don't remember the other males getting this feisty. If I should be correcting it, I'd rather start now than later.
even the youngest of pups will let playmates know if it gets too rough.
you can calm it down if you want - I never let mine play rough in the house.
Otherwise, this is what my boys have always sounded like
Most of their play is nice... Both lying down, with a quiet whine going while they softly mouth each other.
As I said, maybe I'm worrying about nothing. I'm just after a few opinions on whether I should be watching it, or if this is pretty standard for a puppy of his age.
my boys will pin each other. body slam. jump on each other. I mostly posted that for the sound effects - my neighbors are always convinced they are trying to kill each other!
if he gets too wild, just give him a little time to calm down. maybe even burn off some energy another way before letting them play together. I've never had two dogs that close in age - too much work for me! lol
Haha!! Yeah, my sister has a couple and the neighbours came round one day to tell her that that her dogs were trying to kill each other while she was at work. While that conversation was happening, the dogs were playing and the neighbour says "see, they're doing it now!".
My sister pointed out they were playing and neither of them had ever had a mark on them.
I'm sure mine will be fine. I just might take over the teaching of what is too rough because my females not doing it. She's obviously not taking offense to it because she can't get enough of him... doesn't even like going for walks without him.
2 young dogs is a lot of work... but it's a lot of fun at the same time =)
what you don't see is that she IS teaching him! When she has enough she stands up and changes the game. Teaching him how far that he can go. She knows that he is a baby "if he's on top of me, all I have to do is stand up and *poof* he falls off" The fact that she continues the game just signals that he hasn't been annoying enough that she wants him to quit.
Kind of like when a toddler starts banging his toy car on the floor and you say "like this" and show him how to roll it on the ground.
When he comes back at her like you described, that means that she ISN'T being a bit much for him. He's just escalating the game.
At his age, he isn't "more dominant" than her. She is being tolerant of the baby. Just because you let a 2year old take a cookie off your plate doesn't mean that he's going to rule the house when he grows up. It means that he is a baby and you don't care that he takes a cookie. Later, when he is older, you might say "Kid, this is my cookie. get your own"
it's pretty easy to teach them if you don't want them to play this way. Just step in and distract them to something else. They soon learn what is appropriate and what is not.
I'll use my dogs to illustrate even though Rayden was 7 when we brought Singe home. Rayden let Singe crawl all over him and bite his ears and play rough. If it got out of control, he would stand up. If he had had enough, he would simply walk away. If Singe followed, Rayden would pick him up, bring him to me and drop him on the floor. Of course, being an old bachelor, Rayden carried him by his head :)
When he got older, the game changed. Instead of standing up, Rayden would take a paw and push him to the ground, hold him there for a second and Singe would play nicer. If Singe didn't get the hint, Rayden would look at me and grumble and if Singe still didn't take the hint, he would take it a step farther and bark and tell him off.
There was never a doubt about when the game had gone too far. Rayden was just more tolerant of a baby than he was of a teenager.
Maybe she's just being a bit more subtle about it than I expected. It'll be interesting to watch the change as he gets a bit older.
The behaviour you described is more what I was expecting to see now... but as you said maybe it will start in the future.
Now I think about it, I can remember a moment from my last dogs that was similar to what I'm seeing now - The puppy was hanging off my females cheek and she just looked at my and gave a very human like smile and shrug of the shoulders and let him continue. She definitely did teach him the boundaries, so that must have started a bit later on.
I think I am just being a bit paranoid about the whole thing. Everyone advised I waited until Heidi was at least 2 before getting the second pup... but of course, I knew better =). So I've been keeping a very close eye on them to try to make sure nothing goes wrong.
I really don't mind them playing rough... as long as they are both comfortable with it and it doesn't escalate any further than play.
the reason that people encourage you to wait is that you want to keep young puppies as separate as possible. Otherwise, they bond more strongly with each other than with you.
So it would be encouraged that you limit their playtime together anyway and keep them away from each other for all but a short period every day.
Also, you have to remember that she is a baby herself. So what she is willing to put up with is going to be a lot rougher than an older, more settled dog might want to do.
I'll have to keep an eye on that. At this stage it is very much all about me. As i said I've had 2 dogs before, my parents, sister and friends do and in every case the dogs have got on really well but were more bonded with us than each other... but it's worth watching out for.
And yes, it's hard to remember how young she is sometimes. She'd have to be pretty close to full grown and was generally quite sensible before he turned up... watching them get into mischief together has highlighted that she's still a puppy though.
2 dogs that are well apart in age will each bond with their owner more than each other without a lot of extra efforts.
2 dogs that are at the same "stage" will bond more easily with each other, sometimes to the point of ignoring their owner when the dogs are together and panicking if they are away from each other.
I think it's because that, being close in age, they have so much more in common with each other and can meet each other's need for play and socialization. Where an older dog will already be firmly bonded with their owner more than other canines. Kind of like the different relationship between siblings who are a couple years apart vs a set of twins. :)
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