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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:53 pm
Post subject: x0x Presents 100 Greatest NFL Quarterbacks (#1 Revealed)
So this has been a thought in my head for over a year. Everyone has their Top 10 or Top 20 lists but a lot of great QBs are not given their due.
Of course 100 QBs of good quality is harder to find than 30 or 40.
But with this list I hope there can be more progressive discussion on where some of the forgotten QBs lie.
Rankings were made with pure ability, career longevity, individual and team accomplishments. And comparisons to other QBs of their era.
HM #101. Steve Beuerlein
Journeyman is an overused term for Quarterbacks, too many fit that term. Beuerlein is no exception, and although he went from team to team searching for a home, some of his seasons were good enough to get him noticed, but none measured up to his monstrous 99 seasons in Carolina. That season Steve lead the league in yards, beating out Kurt Warner and was second in TDs with 36 to only Kurt Warner ( who had 41 ). Unfortunately the 99 season did not result in any division titles and Beuerlein was found outside the playoffs. In his only playoff game, Beuerlein came in for an injured Aikman to finish the 91 Cowboys season and win their first playoff game in the wildcard round.
#100. Wade Wilson
In the time after Fran Tarkenton, the Vikings organization searched for the next franchise QB. Wade Wilson was one of the first contemporaries. He was able to have some productive seasons including a Pro Bowl year and win the Vikings three playoff games, including a run in 87 that saw him help the Vikings overthrown the juggernaut 13-1 49ers.
#99. Tommy Kramer
Like Wade Wilson, Kramer was one of the possible successors to Fran Tarkenton. He came in before Wilson but at times lost his job to him. Kramer also made a Pro Bowl ( in 86, Wilson was 88 ) and had a playoff win. The difference between Kramer and Wilson was Kramer had a stronger arm, and was more productive statistically, for longer ( over 40 more career starts ). Ironically he and Wilson ended up on the Saints after their Vikings tenure.
#98. Jeff George
Jeff George on an all time list besides busts and over-hyped college players? Afraid so, for you see not that many Quarterbacks are allowed to start over 50 games, let alone 124. In truth George did have some production. Lack of leadership skills galore George was still able to use his God given gift throw over 4,000 yards in 95 and leading the league in 97. George was able to go over 20 TDs four separate times, including his best season where he hit 23 in 10 starts. In 1999 he was able to go 8-2 for Minnesota and win a game in a solid performance ( 3 TDs with no INTs but below 50% passing ). He followed his first and only playoff win with one of the best performances by a QB in a playoff loss. Throwing for 423 yards and 4 TDs in a 49-37 loss to the Super Bowl bound Rams. After 5 teams and 12 seasons, George was unable to find work in numerous attempted comebacks.
#97. Greg Landry
Although he only made one Pro Bowl in a career that spanned 15 seasons and 3 decades, Landry was one of those QBs that was productive with bad teams. Serving the Lions for over a decade, Landry lost an infamous playoff game against the Cowboys 5-0, infamous for his counterpart Craig Morton having one of the worst games for a winning QB in a playoff game. It's relatively hard to judge Landry fully but what is known is his continued employment and relative persistence in giving his all. He did make one Pro Bowl and outproduced that year the following season. For the Lions he remains 3rd in career passing yards, slightly behind Scotty Mitchell ( who played in a more pass friendly era and had Herman Moore ).
#96. Ed Brown
The first pre-Super Bowl era QB on the list, Ed Brown made two Pro Bowls and had an overall winning record, mostly with the Bears. He was unable to get the Bears to a Championship and fizzled in his one Championship game appearance. He was on the Steelers in the poor 60s before they drafted Bradshaw. Overall Brown is one of those QBs that found himself on a good but not great team and managed the game for what it was worth. Could not find any tape on him, only a few briefs, maybe he wasn't all that bad.
#95. Doug Williams
Remembered well for his Super Bowl MVP performance after the 87 season. Williams was the franchise Quarterback for the Tampa Bay Bucs, and helped them get to the NFC Championship in 79, where he was unable to overcome the miracle Rams defense in a 9-0 loss. For those two runs, 79 and 87, I place him here. In reality Williams was a pretty fine physical specimen who had a harder time than he should have due to off-field discriminations.
94. Jake Plummer
Let's get this straight, Plummer wasn't a stat princess. Many of his seasons did not show pretty numbers, but the guy won and of all the playoff chokers, he was not one. It's hard to look at any of his 6 playoff games and say he failed the team. In two of his losses for the Broncos against the Colts he completed more than 70% of his passes, not his fault Manning torched his defense. As for his time with the Cardinals, he was able to pull a mini miracle in 98 by beating the Cowboys and getting a Cards win for the first time in two decades, only to lose to the powerhouse 98 Vikings. He was unable to win a Championship in his only season with a team capable of doing so, in 05 when he was unable to beat the Steelers defense and against his defense wasn't able to hold back the other team's offense.
#93. Steve DeBerg
One word to describe DeBerg would be a traveling warrior. Like Kurt Warner, DeBerg never complained, unlike Kurt Warner he was never quite able to find a consistent home with a good team, with one exception. From 1990-91 DeBerg was the leader of the Chiefs guiding them to 11 and 10 win seasons. He was able to get a win in the 92 playoff but lost in the Divisional to the powerhouse Bills. Statistically speaking his 1990 season was one of the all time best. He threw for 3,444 yards with 23 TDs and only 4 INTs ( 3 of which came in one game ). He did not make the Pro Bowl in 1990 however in one of the biggest all time snubs. In 1998 after 5 seasons in retirement, DeBerg found himself the oldest ever player on a Super Bowl roster, for the 98 Falcons who were unable to win under Chris Chandler.
#92. Charley Johnson
Charley Johnson was a one time Pro Bowler who could have been so much more with the right team. Spending much of his career St. Louis Cardinals he lead the league in passing yards the year after making the Pro Bowl. Though he was unable to ever make the playoffs with the Cards, Oilers and Broncos, he compiled 5 winning seasons and ended his career one of the most productive QBs of his era. Johnson also possessed one of the strongest mid-range arms in history.
#91. Norm Snead
Snead is an interesting case, statistically he wasn't a very good QB, even for his day leading the league in INTs four times. And he didn't have many winning seasons either. Yet he made 4 Pro Bowls and far be it from me to say all those were meaningless. Although one of those Pro Bowls came with a 3-11 team in a season he threw 13 TDs and 27 INTs, his passing game was sufficiently better than some of the other contenders. Most controversially, Snead was traded for by the Eagles in place of Sonny Jurgensen, he did not prove to be a better suitor. His best season came in 72 on the Giants where he went 8-5 leading the league in completion percentage and throwing 17 TDs to 12 INTs. Seeing some limited tape on the guy it seems to me he was the Jeff George of his day, but received more recognition for whatever reason.
#90. Steve Grogan
Grogan has a fairly long and some would say frustrating career. Undisputed starter for the Patriots in the late 70s he did a pretty good job in racking up winning seasons and some good statistical production. in 1979 he lead the league in TDs, with 28. Unfortunately that would be the last time Grogan would put up those kind of numbers. Only in 1979 was he able to throw for over 3,000 yards and 20 TDs. In many ways, from 76-80, Grogan was a poor man's Aikman. Grogan did not have many good rushing threats to fall back on and he had to move the chains himself many a time. For his time Grogan was one of the elite scramblers of his day, especially in his earlier season. Collectively he scored 35 rushing TDs, including a whopping 12 in 1976. It was hard for Grogan to maintain a starting job past 1980, but in the games he did start he did quite well in nabbing the wins. In 84, 85 and 87 he managed to win more games than he lost. In 1985 the Patriots made the Super Bowl, though it was with Tony Eason taking the majority of the snaps, Grogan did take the spotlight away from Eason in the Super Bowl after he went 0 for 6. Though the Patriots got mauled, it was against the 85 Bears. He went 0-4 in the playoffs.
#89. Doug Flutie
If we're counting CFL he's Top 10 without question. Sticking to his NFL days, Flutie was a winner. He's listed 5"10 but I don't buy it, he often had to jump to complete the big throws, but he got the job done. In 10 seasons seeing starter action, Flutie only had a losing record 3 times. He won his first start in 86 for Chicago and went 1-0 again for the Patriots in 87. He would go 6-3 for New England in 88 but after a 1-2 record in 89 he apparently couldn't find any more work. Due to his small stature NFL teams were too ignorant to give him a legitimate shot. he would get his shot with Buffalo in 98, going 7-3 throwing for 20 TDs and 11 INTs and making the Pro Bowl. In 1999 he almost single-handedly got the Bills to the playoffs going 10-5, but Rob Johnson got the playoff start after doing good in a meaningless season finale game. The Bills would lose the game, the Flutie curse came into fold and the Bills have not made the playoffs since. Flutie saw action for 3 more seasons with the Chargers ( Drew Brees started in 2002 ). His complete NFL career records 38 wins and 28 losses. He threw for 86 TDs and 68 INTs. What made Flutie special was his ability to scramble when he had to, will to win and a very rare breed of pure leadership skill that was impeccable. If only Flutie was able to get the franchise label from any team his career would probably have ended in Canton.
#88. Chad Pennington
Pennington still leads the NFL all time in career completion percentage at 66.1%. This was a great asset, but his inability to pull consistency into fold has been a black mark against him. He had solid years in 02, 04, 06 and 08. In wins and stats, but clearly obvious in his followup performances in 03, 05, 07 and 09, injuries accepted, but that is still some significant downplay. In his 4 playoff outings he recorded 2 wins, his greatest moment would have to be a 41-0 win against Manning and the Colts in where he completed 76% of his passes for 3 TDs. His lowest point might be bis 4 INT performance in his last playoff game. Career-wise it was anything but solid, and this guy might be done, but at least he can take solace in offering some winning seasons for teams that needed it.
#87. Charlie Conerly
It was Conerly who played against Unitas in the so called Greatest Game Ever played, the 58 Championship. His career ups and downs but overall was very respectable. He only made 2 pro bowls but was a Hall of Fame finalist 7 times, last being 1980. His career starter record counts 58-31-1, he made the playoffs, or rather the NFL Championship ( in all but one year with that playoff format ) going 2-4. He lead the Giants to the 1956 NFL Championship. Aside from the 58 Championship the majority of his career can be found on radio plays, which is hard to gauge but there you have it.
#86. Ken O'Brien
People make a lot about the 83 draft and what it meant for QBs. Certainly Elway, Kelly and Marino are always going to find their names talked about in top lists for Quarterbacks but for at least a few seasons Ken O'Brien was a formidable 4th contender in that lineup. His 85 and 86 seasons were of the top echelon in the league. He made the Pro Bowl twice in 85 and 91. He lead the league in lowest INT percentage three seasons, unfortunately he also went 0-3 in playoff games.
#85. Tony Romo
Hard to talk about a guy who's only been a starter for 4 seasons, entering his fifth. But his production in that short time shows has not only already put him on pace for some statistical greatness but shown his pure passing ability. He has made 3 Pro Bowls, getting his team two division titles and three playoff appearances. Though he choked in the 2006 wild card he finally got his win this past playoffs. His other two playoff losses came against the powerhouse Vikings in 09 and Super Bowl champion Giants in 07. Overall his winning record also gets him points. Fairly recently he was counted as the sixth greatest undrafted free agent by NFL network. Whether or not you trust those guys I think it's not too much of a gift to put Romo here, above guys like George and Grogan. Oh and yes that Monday Nighter against Buffalo in 07 is one of the greatest game winning finishes I have ever witnessed.
#84. Jim Harbaugh
As far as Quarterback go, Harbaugh wasn't half bad. He certainly wasn't the franchise guy a team could fall back on, but a productive game manger he was. In his 3 playoff runs, two were cut short with a one and done. In 1995 however he was able to help the Colts get to the AFC Championship game where Harbaugh attempted a last ditch TD pass which Aaron Bailey nearly caught and could have got to the Super Bowl in that split second difference. Collectively Harbaugh finished his career with positive TD ratio, fairly good accuracy among his peers and a pro bowl appearance.
#83. Chris Chandler
Chandler's career outside the 97 and 98 seasons with the Falcons, his pro Bowl years, is a bit choppy. He was somewhat productive with the Oilers though unable to get them to the playoffs and sputtered along with the Falcons after 98 to help mentor Vick in 01. He was also able to put up a respectable season with the Phoenix Cardinals in 92. His 1998 miracle run with the Falcons collapsed under the powerhouse 98 Broncos, the question of whether or not the Falcons should have even been there has been thrown about. Certainly Gary Anderson's miss was what gave the Falcons their chance in the 98 NFC Championship, but Chris Chandler was able to guide his team down field to get the tying TD. Overall the best way to describe Chandler is hitting, or almost hitting the ceiling and licking the pavement, because he remains the only QB in NFL history record both a perfect 158.3 and an imperfect 0.0 QB Rating in a complete game.
#82. Billy Kilmer
Billy Kilmer does not completely fit the label of a one year wonder, though outside of 1972 it's hard to give him too many pats on the backs, even though he had a very good statistical year in 69. In 1972 he was able to lead the league in TDs and get the Redskins to the Super Bowl where they would lose to the undefeated Miami Dolphins. It was the only year Kilmer was named to the Pro Bowl and more importantly, won a playoff game. He would go one and done in the playoffs 4 times.
#81. Mark Rypien
A one year wonder, Mark Rypien was not. He made 2 Pro Bowls and in essence had five consecutive seasons of noted production. He was the product of Joe Gibbs offense and was one of three different QBs to win the Super Bowl under Gibbs, but he won the Super Bowl MVP in Super Bowl XXVI and was able to come into his own with his arm strength and leadership for his time on the stage as a starting Quarterback. His 1991 season on one of the greatest teams in NFL history will forever have him in NFL historians minds.
#80. Stan Humphries
Part of me wants to leave this guy off this list completely, but another part of me is intrigued by some of his career accomplishments. In 8 NFL seasons, five with majority activity, he went 50-31 in the regular season and 3-3 in the post-season. He remains the only QB to rally an 0-4 team into the playoffs, by going 11-0 for the remainder of that 92 season with the Chargers. Finishing with a positive TD-INT ratio and an overall five productive seasons. He had a fairly weak arm but some pretty good leadership skills, at least from what I saw. He did however accumulate a whopping 14 INTs in his 6 playoff games.
#79. Jim McMahon
You can't have McMahon too far up on Mark Rypien. The big difference is that although McMahon didn't put up any all-pro seasons, he had a longer starter career and give the guy his due he won games. His 67-30 regular season record is one of the top tier winning percentages. Call it luck for playing on those stacked Bears defenses, McMahon showed his own leadership ability with the Eagles in 91 and Vikings in 93, where he went 8-3 and 8-4 completing more than 60% of his passes and threw more TDs than INTs. Though he may be remembered as one of the worst QBs to win a Super Bowl with the vaunted 85 Bears and as a backup with the Favre lead 96 Packers, McMahon was one of the best game managers and at times showed flashes of brilliance. In his earlier days he was also quite mobile and offered a bit of a 3rd dimension to his team's offense.
#78. Neil O'Donnell
The guy who once held the record for lowest INT percentage and great TD-INT ratio sure didn't show it in the biggest game of his life. It is just impossible yo escuse Neil O'Donnell's performance in Super Bowl XXX that effectively gave the game to the Cowboys. Not surprisingly he was not re-signed by the Steelers. His time with the Jet in 97 was the last time he had a good season and the only one outside of Pittsburgh. Though he was statistically solid for the Bengals in 98 throwing 14 TDs to only 5 INTs, he went 2-9 and picked up a lot of those TDs playing 2 scores down. If one is to look at the positives they should be looking at Neil's first five seasons, with the Steelers, and look away from Super Bowl XXX. He went 3-4 with the Steelers and threw 9 TDs with 8 INTs and recorded a 74.9 QB Rating. He was a pretty sound game manager, limiting his mistakes through most of his games, indeed for two straight playoff seasons ( 3 games combined ) he threw 6 TDs and no picks. Physically, O'Donnell was a roughly average QB, though he knew how to take a sack. He finished with a positive winning percentage.
#77. Milt Plum
Very hard to find any video of this guy, in large part because he only played in two playoff games. The 57 Championship game is probably your best bet and that was his rookie year. His best record in a season was when he lead the Lions to 11-3 in 1962, sadly that year 11-3 was not enough to get a spot in the Championship game. In his two playoff games he was sub-par at best but his statistical accomplishments from 59-61, even on the Jim Brown lead Cleveland Browns are enough to land him in this spot. You see from 59-61 he lead the league in completion percentage and was 2nd in QB rating twice and lead in 1960. In that golden year of 60, Plum set the all time single season record with 110.4 QB Rating, he got it by throwing 21 TDs and only 5 INTs. That Rating stood until Steve Young broke it more than three decades later. Plus also had four other respectable seasons statistically but was never quite able to do enough to get a Championship.
#76. Eli Manning
I could say Eli has failed to live up to his hype coming from the name Manning, and that outside of one miracle playoff he has choked in the biggest games ( gone one and done three times of 4 playoff seasons ). However Eli has produced Top 10 numbers for the last five seasons, and of course has won a Super Bowl in one of the greatest upsets in sports history and a SB-MVP to boot. All in all he is poised to have a pretty solid career, perhaps even Hall of Fame worthy, yet it's just too soon to give him too much credit after 5 full seasons of being a starter. Indeed he as any Quarterback has shown the good and the bad, and right now the good greatly outweighs any bad. He's the third active Quarterback on this list, and he has a lot of time to move up.
#75. Bert Jones
This was one of the easiest old time QBs to judge for me. There was a lot of stock footage and highlights of his three great seasons from 75-77 on youtube, which made it far easier as I didn't have to download anything from the ESPN classics. On the whole Jones was not the successor to Unitas the Colts had hoped, he stood his own and was a top tier Quarterback. He won the AP MVP in 1976, along with the AP OPY and a few other MVPs from other associations. It was a standout year in which he lead the league in passing and had a then astounding 24 TDs to only 9 INTs with a 60.3% and was only behind Staubach in that category and in QB Rating. The problem with Jones is outside of his three stellar seasons, that were all Pro Bowl worth ( he only made Pro Bowl in 76 ) his career seems to tail off badly. Injuries are largely to blame, though he did make a statistical comeback in 80 and 81, he was unable to help win games. In his 9 seasons with the Colts ( and one late with the Rams ) he managed to get to the playoffs three times. He lost all three games throwing for 1 TDs and 2 INTs, having only one game where he completed above half his passes and one game where his team didn't get blown out ( 2 blowout losses and a 6 point loss ). If I was to go by pure ability, he's be up higher, though for his three great seasons he had a solid RB, I'm not going to say Bert Jones had it easy with a good team around him, he did his end right, it's quite sad he wasn't able to have a long career, could have been one of the greats.
#74. Archie Manning
Few Quarterbacks with such great qualities have found themselves in such putrid conditions. Any other QB would have busted and been driven out within 4 seasons on those New Orleans Saints, but not Archie Manning. Manning would make not one but two Pro Bowls wasting his talent with the Saints. He never played a single playoff game and finished his career 35-101-3 starter record. He also threw 125 TDs to 173 INTs. Anyone can look at those numbers and cringe, but to just do that would be a great slap in the face to one of the most respectable personalities in the game. Archie was also a fairly mobile QB though he never racked up those mind blowing rush numbers as other that played on better teams. Like Walter Payton and James Lofton, Manning persevered and stuck with his team, unlike Payton and Lofton he was never able to see the shining light of the playoffs and the Super Bowl, and of course Sweetness was finally able to call himself a Champion in 85. You could coompare Manning's career with Sayers perhaps best of all, as Sayers also played for absolutely pitiful teams and never made the playoffs either. Archie Manning, we salute you and of course all Saints fans give him praise.
#73. Michael Vick
Hard to make an argument for a guy who's only had 4 full seasons, but I digress. Michael Vick is the most versatile QB in NFL history, in terms of his arm strength and speed his physically monstrous biological frame is without measure. In only 68 starts he is just over 100 yards away from holding the career rushing yards record by a QB. Already a 3 time Pro Bowlers, Vick could control the game like no other and breakout like few can imagine. His playoff career reads 2 wins and 2 losses, yet to go one and done, and his two playoff wins saw him showcase a brilliant performance. Losing twice to the NFC powerhouse Philadelphia Eagles, it's hard to really lay blame to him not leading the Falcons to the promiseland. Despite what some may say about his passing ability, the fact is Vick has a career 78 TDs to 52 INTs, outside of his rookie year never throwing more picks than scores. He became only the 2nd Quarterback to lead the Falcons to the NFC Championship and has shown new leadership qualities and maturity since his return to the NFL. His accomplishments are still on the short side, but physically he is one of the greats.
#72. Jeff Hostetler
Hostetler's career has a Warner like feel to it. He threw his first pass in the NFL at age 27 and through his short career, Hostetler showed signs of greatness. In his 10 seasons with a start he never had a losing record, in fact going 4-0 his first three seasons with starter action from 88-90. He actually won his first 8 official starts, carrying his 2-0 regular season record in 1990 all the way to the Super Bowl Championship. In his 5 playoff games he went 4-1 throwing for 7 TDs and 0 INTs, the only QB with 3+ starts to never throw an Interception in the playoffs. He also holds a career playoff 62.6% and 112.0 QB Rating. Though of course it's easy to look at the great averages of a QB who's played so few games, in his 5 relative full seasons, he went 40-27, earning a Pro Bowl berth in 1994 with the Raiders. He could also move out of the pocket when he had to as an added bonus. One can only imagine how he would have faired with a long career, perhaps he would have lost his job or become one of the all time greats.
#71. Joe Ferguson
Due to the teams he played for and his limited playoff success, Ferguson is one of many forgotten but very commendable Quarterbacks in NFL history. Ferguson statistically had some good years in leading the league in TDs once and in yards, seperate seasons, overall five good seasons of productive play. The majority of his career was spent on the Bills and he remains that franchise's second greatest Quarterback. Racking up 79 wins in his career with 92 losses, he's one of the more long lived QBs on this list with 171 starts. He would go 1-3 in playoff games. Though not the strongest arm, he was able to carry his own on teams that largely relied on the run. With O.J. Simpson, Ferguson was able to move the chains when he needed to through the air. It's difficult to peg how good ferguson was considering the rushing threat Simpson put up, but his two winning seasons of 80 and 81 had him with Joe Cribbs as the runningback, who although a three time pro bowler wasn't what Simpson was. It's interesting to note the only pro bowlers on the 80 and 81 teams were RB Joe Cribbs and WR Jerry Butler ( in 1980 ). Ferguson has to be given some credit for those years. Though obviously head coach Chuck Knox is also to be given a lot of credit for those years as well.
I just had to fit in that smile, one of the most likeable personalities in the NFL in my lifetime, Green was also, at least for a time, a lethal force at the Quarterback position. He was only the third QB ever to have three consecutive 4,000 yard seasons, when he did so with the Chiefs during a stretch that saw him make two Pro Bowls and get the Chiefs a division title and another playoff berth. Not the strongest arm, Green put up several strong passing seasons, something he probably learned with the Rams joining them in 99 in 2000 he filled in for Kurt Warner for 5 starts and a few other partial games helping the team set the all time passing yards record with over 5,000 yards combined. His 0-2 playoff record is the big smudge on his resume but he had the tools to be a franchise QB and may have well won Championships on better built teams.
#69. Kerry Collins
Collins is a two time pro bowler and although his 2nd pro bowl was largely a technicality on account of a couple QBs passing up their spots, he deserved the spot of Grbac in 2000. Collins' career is not about stats, though he does sit 12th in all time yards, and he stands as one of only a handful of Quarterbacks to lead two different teams to a Conference Championship and three different teams to a division title. His role as a game manager has not always been as so, he has been called upon to use his arm more than a few times and has more or less delivered. After 7 playoff games his 12 TDs to 11 INTs is above average. The biggest knock on Collins would be his fumbles going over 10 on six occasions he holds a career mark of 132 fumbles, 5th all time. I can say about Collins that he showed promise of being a franchise Quarterback in the right system, ultimately never having a great cast of receiving options, or really all that good unless you count Amani Toomer. He played on teams with a solid defense ( 2nd best in 96 with Carolina ) or a very strong rushing attack. Just with all his career accumulations and having the success he's had in terms of winning on three different teams I thought he deserved a place, at this point I doubt his career pushes any further so he'll stay at this spot.
#68.Daunte Culpepper
Culpepper's career is of the poor man's Kurt Warner. He put up all-pro seasons but was unable to have significant playoff success and a career resurgence or a prolonged campaign. For five seasons between 2000-04 Culpepper was not only a perennial passing threat leading the league in yards and TDs in seperate seasons, but was also the 2nd greatest scrambler in Vikings history after Fran Tarkenton, alloding over 2,600 rushing yards and 34 TDs for his career ( most with the Vikings ). He could have won the MVP in 04 were it not for Manning's 49 TD campaign and although he never got the Vikings to the promiseland in his two playoff appearances he won his first playoff games in 3 and 4 TD performances ( with no picks ) while subsequently following those wins with a valiant loss against the Eagles in 04 and one of the worst playoff games ever in a 41-0 drubbing by the Giants in the 2000 NFC Championship. Some noted proponents of Culpepper's success have been Randy Moss and Cris Carter for wideouts ( Carter in his early success of 00 and 01 ) however Culpepper's performance in absence of Moss, particularly in 04, his most illustrious passing season, with the likes of Nate Burleson seem to counteract those arguments. The true weaknesses of Culpepper's game were his fumbling problems, leading the league in 02 and 03. Furthermore his time in Miami, Oakland and Detroit was hampered due to the fact of being unable to carry rather inferior teams and bottom tier offensive weapons.
#67. Dan Pastorini
Yes the interception machine finds himself inside the Top 70 in large part due to his limited though noted playoff successes. Putting up a 3-2 playoff record Pastorini made the Conference Championship in his two playoff outtings, losing both times to the powerhouse Steelers in 78 and 79. Though putting up a stinker with 5 interceptions in the 78 NFC title game, Pastorini came back the following year and put up a valiant performance completing nearly 68% of his passes throwing over 200 yards in the controversial game where a Mike Renfro TD catch was denied due in complete part to not instant replay available at the time ( it was a definite TD from two seperate angles ). The Oilers were unable to tie the game at 17 going into the 4th quarter and the Steelers took advantage adding to their lead. Had the call gone different Pastorini could have been a Champion. One of the more admirable qualities of Pastorini was his ability to play through pain and sheer toughness, it was because of Pastorini the flak jacket was introduced to the NFL when he decided to play in spite of broken ribs. Up until 1977 Pastorini had a suspect offensive line and the talent of his early teams was at the bottom end going with only 1 win in back to back seasons of 72 & 73. Indeed later in Pastorini's successful years he still did not have the offensive weapons needed to put up big numbers, which he had the mechanics to do so. The late 70s Oilers teams saw offensive success through Earl Campbell and Pastorini benefited from Campbell as much as the rest of the team, but this is not to say Pastorini was a lesser QB because of a powerful rushing threat. In retrospect had Pastorini had a better receiving corp, even one star studded receiver, the Oilers could have won some Super Bowls. Pastorini did make a Pro Bowl in 1975 and did get his Super Bowl ring in 1980 as a backup on the Oakland Raiders.
P.S. Here is the drive that lead to the no TD call in the 79 AFC Championship:
Oilers No Catch
#66. Jack Kemp
Kemp was a two time first team all-pro and the onlly Quarterback to bring a Championship to Buffalo, doing it twice in 64 & 65 in the AFL. Kemp's numbers may give the average fan confusion, as he did pile up 183 INTs in 105 starts to 114 TDs, but the guy was a winner. His regular season record stands at 65-37-3 and his playoff record at 2-4. He would lose his first two AFL Championships with the Chargers in poor fashion and lose a Divisional in his first playoff game as a Bill. However back to back Championships in convincing fashion had the Bills on top in the AFL, 1965 being the last time any Buffalo based sports franchise won ( in the major leagues ). Kemp was also named to 7 Pro Bowls in addition to his 4 All-Pros. Critics of Kemp argue he was only a game manager, and a turnover prone one at that, who road the back of his great teams to victories. I would argue this that despite his many Interceptions and three times leading the league in fumbles, he won an AFL MVP and rushed for a career 40 TDs. Perhaps he wouldn't have won Championships on lesser teams but Kemp was no slouch.
#65.Vinny Testaverde
For those who have been playing Madden since at least the 2003 version, you'll know that whenever Testaverde retires in the game, which is usually after the first season, he is immediately inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. In reality that may be unrealistic but Testaverde did have an extraordinarily long career that saw several noteworthy seasons, despite his post-season lacking. Testaverde was drafted by the horrendous Tampa Bay Bucs, though they were past their worst days. Testaverde produced six largely poor seasons including twice leading the league in Interceptions ( 35 in one year ). He rebounded with limited success with the Browns under coach Bilichick winning his first playoff game and losing with inferior play the following week. He then spent a two year period with the Ravens, which saw him put up a career year in 96 with 33 TDs and over 4,100 yards but go 4-12 ( with 4 three point losses ). In 1998 Testaverde joined the Jets where he would spend tthe next six seasons and have, in terms of winning, his greatest success, having in total three winning seasons and two playoff appearances. Making the Pro Bowl for the 2nd time in 98 Testaverde lead the division champion Jets to the 1998 AFC Championship game where they lead for much of the game before the Broncos got a lucky bounce in a kickoff and ended up winning by a gap. The following season when the Jets were expected to contend again with some improvements, Testaverde fell to injury in his first game. He would lose his fifth and final playoff game as a Jet in a 24-38 loss which saw him throw 3 TDs with no picks and almost 270 yards. In 2007 signing with the QB desperate Panthers, Testaverde would become the oldest QB to win a game as a starter, he would end up 2-4 that year. Testaverde retired 6th in career yards and 8th in TDs but his most notable career accomplishments is 21 consecutive seasons with a TD pass and throwing a TD pass to 71 different players.
#64. Brad Johnson
I know what you're thinking, but the man did not always have a broken throwing arm. He was never able to make a cannon throw but the guy was actually quite efficient. In terms of winning he once had a streak of seven consecutive seasons with a winning starter record ( eigh in all ). And his TD to INT ratio at least until his 2006 season was one of the best with a mere 2.8 INT percentage on his career. He was also the more accurate QBs completing 60.8% or better for 13 straight seasons and yes, his game managing duties that lead to playoff wins is also why he's on the list. On top of his 2002 Super Bowl run with the Bucs he registered a playoff win with Washington in 1999. Though his playoff statistics are not the best they are roughly skewed due to the fact he had a 4 INT game in one of his bad losses ( 31-9 to Philadelphia ). That said he still finished with a 4-3 playoff record. Though some can just throw Dilfer at me and say he was 5-1 in the playoffs and a successful game manager, in none of his six playoff games did he completed more than 13 passes, while Johnson completed more than that in all seven of his playoff games. Johnson also registered a 72-53 regular season record. Call him lucky all you want he saw success on three different teams getting all of them as a starter to the playoffs, He was named to two Pro Bowls and in 2002 and 05 putting up one of the most proficient statistics in history; 02 throwing 22 TDs to 6 INTs and going 10-3 and 05 throwing 12 TDs to 4 INTs going 7-2 ( replacing Culpepper for the Vikings ).
#63. Tobin Rote
What there is to see is impressive, and the numbers even moreso. The sad truth is the teams Rote played for were often pitiful and he was one of the pioneer do it all QBs, To start on the stats, Rote was both a tremendous passer and scrambler. He lead the Packers, his first team, in rushing for three seasons. On the Packers he also lead the league in passing TDs twice and once in passing yards. His career numbers for his time were quite good despite completing only 45.7% of his career passes. He finished with a then record 37 rushing TDs for a QB, no QB would hit 30 until 10 years after Rote retired, and he still holds 2nd place for most rush TDs by a Quarterback. Now onto the wins, Rote saw success on two different teams, he lead the Lions to the NFl Championship in 1957 taking over for Bobby Layne and had one of the more impressive Championship game performances beating the Otto Graham lead Browns 59-14 in a game he threw for 280 yards with 4 TDs and no picks. He also won the 1963 AFL Championship with the Chargers, if counting the AFL with the NFL, he's only one of two Quarterbacks to lead two different teams to a Championship. He was named a first team all-pro in 63 with the Chargers and named AFL MVP. Overall it seems Rote is one of the greats, but what's hard to judge is that his greatest statistical seasons came with the Packers where he never had a winning season. He was able to win the 57 Championship on a very good team by sheer circumstance when Layne broke his leg in the regular season. Then in his one year where he was the starter from game 1 and lead his team to the Championship, it was in the AFL. Perhaps I am being unfair but with all that in mind I place him here and perhaps I'm shortchanging him.
#62. Jeff Garcia
Well here it comes, perhaps one of the more controversial rankings on the list Jeff Garcia is in my opinion one of the physically greatest QBs ever. He had scrambling ability, rifle arm, leadership and toughness. Like with Flutie I do not count his CFL stats as this is an NFL QBs list, but his time in the CFL under Flutie ( widely regarded greatest CFL QB ) sets a precident on his leadership skills. Taking over for a retired Steve Young, Garcia put up hard numbers from 2000-02 earning a Pro Bowl each year ( his 32 TDs in 01 tied him 2nd with Favre and behind Warner who had 36 ). He won his first playoff game pulling off one of the greatest comebacks in NFL history against the Giants in the 2002 NFC Wild Card. In 2006 he proceeded to take over for an injured McNabb and salvage the Philadelphia Eagles season going 5-1 down the stretch winning them an impropable division title and getting them a playoff win an narrowly losing to the Saints 27-24 in the NFC Divisional Round. He would land a starting job with the Tampa Bay Bucs and win them a division title in a 4th Pro Bowl year, making him one of few Quarterbacks to lead three different teams to a division title. Statistically for his career the most impressive note is his astounding amost 2:1 TD to INT ratio, better than most and equal to the likes of Peyton Manning ( in 09 when Garcia had left ). In the end it's subjective but Garcia also showcased tough grit, in one game contiuing play after splitting his nose. His inability to put the Bucs over the hump in their last three games of the 08 season where one more win would have given them a playoff spot is sadly the last of what we saw from Garcia. Not to forget he entered the NFL at age 29 and was given the full starter duties the next year at 30, in his younger days he could have rivaled the greats in career accomplishments.
#61. Steve Bartkowski
Perhaps controversially, I put Bartkowski as the greatest Falcons QB ever, in terms of career spent and numbers put up Bartkowski is still the franchise leader in every meaningful passing mark. He put up two monster seasons where he made Pro Bowl, in 1980 and 81. To give you an idea, he passed for 30+ TDs in both seasons, still the only Falcons QB to do so, and lead with 31 in 1980 ( he was 2nd the next year to Fouts 32-30 ). What gives him even more prestige is in what environment he did it in. The Gritz Blitz ( though at this point past this state of dominance ) served to finish out games, Bartkowski put up the points they so dearly needed early on when with the best defense in the league could not get a winning record. Though in the 80s Bartkowski had the services of a very underrated back by the name of Williams Andrews he effectively had a weak supporting cast in receiving. No WR in 1980 caught more than 58 passes, and although Alfred Jenkins put up over 1,000 yards and was named first team all-pro in 1981, watching the tape I would have to say Bartkowski made him more than Jenkins being an all-pro WR ( though he was no slouch ). Bartkowski's only downfall came with a 1-3 playoff record. He had two poor playoff outtings where he completed less than 40% of his throws, but his other playoff loss coming in 1980 is the most heartbreaking. In his best playoff performance where hew threw for over 300 yards with 2 TDs and an INT, the 12-4 Falcons saw the Cowboys ( who had been the 3rd seed ar 12-4 and beat the Rams in Wild Card ) come back from a 24-10 deficit in the 4th quarter to win 30-27. In one of the greatest games in NFL history ( nfl films said it first ) the Duel in Dixie put the arrow through the heart for the 1980 Falcons who had one of those magical seasons and could have won it all. Bartkowski did land a playoff in his first ever playoff game, a 14-13 win over the Eagles in the 1978 season. A few things to add, he was one of the more accurate passers of his day, having four straight seasons of 62+ completion percentage including a league lead late in his career in 84.
60. Craig Morton
Nowadays I hear many fans screaming how a certain QB is lucky because of such and such and how they are lucky to be in the system theyre in or because their defense carries them to victories. These people, most of which Im sure carelessly throw out these accusations should seriously give a little study time to the great Craig Morton, perhaps one of the luckiest players in NFL history. Craig played the majority of 10 playoff games and put up some of the worst performances in history, yet managed to come out with wins. To be chronologically correct Ill start with his days in Dallas. He lost his first playoff game in 1968 by a score of 31-20 where he completed 9 of 23 passes for 163 TDs and a TD and INT a piece, this was to be one of his best playoff performances. He would lose his next playoff game 14-38 completing 8 of 24 passes for 92 yards and 2 picks, his rating was 11.1, he would follow this up with his first successful playoff run in 1970 which saw the Cowboys make the Super Bowl for the first time. It is by almost a miracle and a showcase of how truly talented that Cowboys squad was that they carried Craig Morton in that playoff run. In the Divisional game Morton completed 4 of 18 passes for 38 yards and an interception, he won that game by the score of 5-0, it remains one of the worst performances by a Quarterback in a playoff victory. He would follow that stinker up with a slightly better 7 for 22 with a TD against the constantly choking in the Championship game 49ers. Poor old Landry must have though Craig going 2-0 meant he did good, sadly his crapulence would not be overcome by his team in Super Bowl V, still counted as one of the worst Super Bowls ever due to the amount of turnovers and sheer impotence of both teams. Morton completed 12 of his 26 passes for 127 yards and threw one measly TD to 3 interceptions that didnt bury his team due to the Colts not being much better with the tandem of Morrall and Unitas. Landry, with Staubach in waiting, kept Craig in and watched his team lose on a last second field goal by the Colts 16-13.
Just to let you know why Morton was given his opportunities, he was actually statistically sound in the regular season, in fact throwing 21 TDs to 15 INTs and going 10-2-1 in 1969, he outplayed Staubach, but come playoff time in the modern era he would have been crucified. He stuck around in Dallas up until 1974, in 1972 the Cowboys were saved a sure loss after Morton started with less than 50% completion, again and 2 picks and Roger The Dodger became a legend as he brought the Cowboys back down 15 in the 4th quarter to win the game and go on to win the Super Bowl against the Dolphins. Thats right, Craig Morton has a Super Bowl ring, Im sure hes showed it to Marino at least once. Mortons career did not end there though, the Giants gave him 2 more seasons as a starter in 75 and 76, both saw him not do so good in the regular season and even sniff having to choke in the playoffs. In 1977 the Broncos, on the verge of a miracle season, picked up Morton and saw him have a comeback year. In the 77 playoffs Morton shed his playoff choker image and produced back to back 100 Rated performances, though the 77 AFC Championship saw controversy with the Broncos getting a TD to go up 14-3 despite fumbling the ball the previous play. The 77 run was certainly magical, though Mortons days of choking like a dying dog in the post-season came back in one of the most laughable ways possible, by posting the first and only 0.0 QB Rating in the post-season. In, THE SUPER BOWL, Morton completed 4 of 15 passes for 4 Interceptions. Norris Weese was brought in and although he didnt fair that much better the Broncos were able to score 10 points behind him. Raiders fan must take some solace in the fact Gannons performance in Super Bowl XXXVII was magnificent in comparison to Mortons Super Bowl XII. Alas the Broncos stuck with Morton and he managed to throw in two more playoff losses ( though one he barely played in ). He put up his best statistical season in 1981, where he managed to screw it up again, by, with his team 10-5 and on the verge of a playoff spot, threw a stinker against the 5-10 Bears in the last game of the season. In that game Morton completed 8 of 23 passes for 1 TD and 3 INTs and dropped the Broncos into a 3-21 hole. That came is notable for showcasing Steve DeBergs will of a great Quarterback as he almost brought the Broncos back to salvage the season.
So why do I have Craig Morton placed comfortable at #60? The sad fact is that he was the first and until 2008 only Quarterback to get two different teams to the Super Bowl, and although his playoff career as a whole is nothing short of pitiful statistically, he got to two Super Bowls and in 1977 did indeed help the Broncos instead of riding the defense like he did in Dallas, and although he performed, well downright vomit inducing in the Super Bowl, that was the first Super Bowl berth for a franchise few though would reach that high. Furthermore Craig had some good statistical regular seasons, and his regular season record as a starter is 81-62. For the fact he played for so long and got two different teams to the Super Bowl he gets bonus points. Personally I would put him somewhere behind Jeff George because George did better in his limited playoff appearances. But such is life, and Craig Morton received the AP Comeback Player of the Year award in 1977 and currently finds his name on the Broncos ring of fame. Although I think his greatest achievement is setting the bar relatively low for John Elway to surpass what the number 7 would mean for the Broncos organization.
59. Philip Rivers
After 4 seasons for a player to get this high on the list he must have shown some notable brilliance, I think Rivers has. His first 4 years in the league statistically is only comparable to the legends of the game. His regular season win percentage and TD:INT ratio is beyond tremendous and he has shown poise and leadership in the playoffs appearing all 4 seasons as a starter. Two of his playoff runs, the ones where he entered with a Top 2 seeded team ended in one and dones, both could have well seen him victorious. In his first playoff game his Chargers team was the #1 seed in the NFL and would have won their opening Divisional Round game were it not for a defensive player after intercepting the opposing Quarterback to seal the win proceeded to fumble the ball. More recently in last years playoffs lead the Chargers to a 13-3 record and 2nd seed in the AFC, losing in the Divisional Round. Despite completing nearly 68% of his throws and getting nearly 300 yards his team lost 17-14 due in large part to his kicker pulling one of the worst chokejobs by a kicker in the post-season I have personally ever seen ( yes worse than Gary Anderson ).
In his two successful playoff runs Rivers brought him team from rough early season starts and late division titles where he would beat the Colts and Manning twice, including in an upset with his team at 8-8 winning the division by going 4-0 down the stretch, against the 12-4 Colts in 2008. Rivers has shown some great late game heroics and the will to win, as well as being one of the most productive and efficient Quarterbacks in the game. Throwing for over 4,000 yards and leading the league with 34 TDs ( and only 11 INTs ) and a league high QB Rating Rivers was snubbed for the 2008 Pro Bowl, considering that year a Pro Bowl season Rivers has been a top level Quarterback at least 3 of his first 4 seasons as a starter, the sky is the limit for the guy. He also has a career eleven 4th quarterback comeback victories. Just to add another piece of notable information, he opted to play in the 2007 AFC Championship despite suffering an ACL injury and came back for training camp before the 2008 season.
58. Ron Jaworski
Known better as his nickname Jaws , Ron Jaworski was the first and to date only one of two Quarterbacks to lead the Philadelphia Eagles to the Super Bowl. He would lose that Super Bowl in an ugly way but had several productive seasons and stands as one of few Quarterbacks to lead two different teams to a Conference Championship game as he did so with the Rams in his 3rd year in the league. He had one Pro Bowl year, in 1980, when he also won the Bert Bell Award. He racked up 73 wins in his 143 starts. His greatest years with the Eagles came under - Vermeil, where he had a league top defense ( in 1980 and 81 lowest points allowed ) and was able to guide one of the best offenses, despite limited weapons ( unless you count Harold Carmichael ). Hard to peg ho good Jaworski was, in his best years he had a tremendously good defense but a lacking run game and limited receiver options. In retrospect you could say he helped his team win by providing the offense on a mediocre at best offensive team, with him elevating their play. On the other you can look at his 1980 Super Bowl run and say he wasnt good at all and the defense did all the work by causing turnovers giving Jaworski a short field to get the scores. He was a fan favorite and thats part of the reason I put him so high, the other is the stats are above average with a Bert Bell. Hes still outside the top 50 but hes good enough to be in the top 60. Still a hard case to judge.
57. Danny White
Yes, the guy who wasnt quite able to supplant Roger Staubach as the Cowboys great Quarterback. Danny White actually helped the Cowboys in the 78 playoffs to make the Super Bowl when he took over a Divisional game against the Falcons in place of struggling Staubach. In 1980 he was handed over the reigns to the franchise and overall collectively didnt do quite so bad. He was able to make three Conference Championships where he played somewhat poorly in two of them but in his best shot was overshadowed by Montana and The Catch. In the 81 NFC Championship game the Cowboys were leading 27-20 late in the 4th quarter, White actually made a good throw to Jeff Donally but he was unable to catch it for the first down which would have drained more time off the clock and could have generated a field goal for the Cowboy which probably would have won them the game. Whites overall playoff career wasnt half bad, consider he went 5-5 and his statistics were average at worst and two of the teams he lost to the 81 49ers and 82 Skins ended up winning the Super Bowl.
He had a 62-30 regular season starting record and several productive seasons, though he only made one Pro Bowl it is quite arguable he should have made more, like in 83. Id like to give him props for his punting ability as he was one of the last Quarterbacks to be an effective punter, a position he first became prominent with when he was behind Staubach on the depth chart in the 70s. He managed to win two Championships in the Arena League though of course that has no bearing on this list. Id like to think White may have accomplished more if the Dallas fans didnt dog him so badly for not getting them Super Bowl titles, its comparable to what happened to the QBs that were set to replace Elway and Aikman, in the end I think White did pretty well, he did have solid teams around him but he was also a fairly good Quarterback to lead those teams. Some of his highlights include the Duel in Dixie and 1982 NFC Wildcard against Tampa Bay.
56. Matt Hasselbeck
Alright I know whats coming, I know Ill get a lot of guff on this but hear me out. Haselbeck
Is a 3 time Pro Bowler who for six consecutive seasons did not have a losing season and was consistently a statistically top tier Quarterback. Were it not for Brett Favre, who always seems to do best when matched up against one of his former backups, Hasselbeck may have a more flashy career. In the playoffs he is one of the more consistent QBs of his generation, and this may shock some. His first two playoff games he threw over 300 yards with 1 INT in his first playoff game and 2 TDs to 1 INT in his second. These losses came to the Favre lead Packers in OT with the famous we want the ball and were gonna score and the last minute loss to the Rams in the 2004 NFC Wild Card. After the 2005 season Hasselbeck got the top seeded Seahawks to their first ever Super Bowl, a Super Bowl still considered to be one of the worse officiated games in NFL history ( let alone playoffs ). Super Bowl XL was marred by horrid calls, mainly against the Seahawks, where Hasselbeck outplayed his counterpart in a 21-10 loss.
The following season Hasselbeck would get the Seahawks a win in the wildcard before losing in the Divisional Round, again in OT to the eventual NFC Champion Bears. In 2007 once against Hasselbeck went 1-1 in the post-season losing to Favres Packers in the Divisional Round. His career playoff resume reads 58.2% with 11 TDs, 8 INTs and 79.9 QB Rating, with 120 rushing yards and a 4-5 record. Perhaps its because Ive personally seen a hell of a lot of video on the guy, but he is vastly underrated. Yes he had Shaun Alexander in his prime but never did he have a great receiver to go to, unless you say Jerry Rice in 2004 at the very tail end of his career. In his three Pro Bowl seasons Hasselbeck had a 1,000 yard receiver in Darrell Jackson in 2003 and Bobby Engram in 2007, hardly top level receivers, yet he made it work. I would also peg that had he a better defense and just one elite receiving target hes have at least one ring, he never pulled a chokejob in a playoff game and lost two in OT ( even though one was by a pick six ).
55. Jim Everett
54. Frank Ryan
53. Jim Hart
52. Mark Brunell
51. Bernie Kosar
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There haven't been 50 really good QBs in NFL history, let alone 100.
If Chad Pennington doesn't make the list, I'm ignoring everything you say from now on.
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As long as Steve Grogan doesn't make it. He sucked on Tecmo Superbowl.
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50. Rich Gannon
His scrambling ability and accuracy for his time for the Raiders was pretty good, and the accolades don't lie. Four Pro Bowls, two first team all-pros, which brought about 1 Associated Press MVP and two Bert Bells. But let's not get ahead of ourselves and take a step back to analyze. Gannon never had the cannon arm, at least not on the Raiders, he racked up the yards with short, almost unbelieavably low spirals, on a team with aging, but reliable, veterans. His playoff resume is scattered, he played one playoff game for the Vikings in which he completed 13 of 18 passes in a 41-13 route by the powerhouse 49ers where he relieved both Tommy Kramer and Wade Wilson ( if you note the 100 and 99th ranked QBs on this list ). He took over the starting job in Minnesota but weas unable to produce a playoff berth. Gannon's only playoff game for the Chiefs in 95 also came in relief, the Chiefs had the best record at 13-3 and Steve Bone wasn't playing his best, but as everyone should know the 10-7 loss to the Colts was all on Lin Elliot who missed all 4 of his field goals, none that were in the 50+ range, including two in the 4th quarter, just one would have tied the game. With the Raiders Gannon made the Conference Championship, Divisional and finally the Super Bowl. Gannon's two horrid playoff performances came against legendary defense, the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs. In the end his playoff statistics are actually one of the best for QBs who've started 6+ games. I would put him higher, in fact he was #40 at the beginning, but ultimately he wasn't the best passer physically, and although his 4 years with the Raiders was top tier, it was a fairly good system to be in and his limited stardom is just that, limited.
49. Joe Namath
What can I possibly say about Namath that has not already been criticized and praised? Yes, he was one of the most prolific strong arm Quarterbacks in NFL history and helped legitimize the AFL by guiding the Jets to their only Super Bowl victory in Super Bowl III still counted as one of the greatest upsets in sport history. His career statistics, even for his time are, humbling, but he did have some all-pro seasons. He was the first QB to throw for over 4,000 yards in a season ( albeit in the more pass happy AFL ) and won two AFL MVPs, in 68 and 69. He also nabbed a Comeback Award in 74 where he threw 20 TDs, 7 seasons from the last time he got to that mark. His playoff career is extremely limited, he only played in 3 playoff games, his 68 run was quite good where he threw 3 TDs to beat the Raiders in the AFL Championship and threw no picks and won SB MVP honors against the Colts. His last playoff game the following season against the Chiefs was one of the worst, completing 35% of his passes ( 14 of 40 ) with 3 INTs to the eventual Super Bowl Champs. Watching film of the guy does speak volumes, I would say at least for his first 5 seasons he was a huge offensive weapon, he had Elways arm when Elway was in the womb you see. After the 69 season, Namaths career in my opinion took a downturn due to the injuries. He came back in 72 in pro bowl form leading the league ( the NFL at this time ) in yards and TDs. A lot of people criticize his career statistics, how many INTs he threw and how he barely completed half of his throws, but what is interesting to note is for his career he averaged a 14.7 Yards a completion, still 13th all time, and even after his last two seasons slightly brought down that average. Since his retirement in 77, no Quarterback has been able to average a higher yards a completion than him. They said about Namath, when he had the opportunity to go short or long, Joe Willy would always go deep.
48. Drew Bledsoe
As a recently retired QB, the question of whether hes Hall of Fame material or not is abundant, Im still on the fence about the issue and certainly if he gets in Id move him up higher. The pros are that career wise, statistically hes top tier, he sits 8th in yards, a member of the 40,000 club, he is 13th in TDs and 6th in completions. He also has over 100 career wins ( including playoffs ). His cons as some have stated, is not being Tom Brady, his playoff resume both statistically and performance wise if you get to see the games is quite pitiful in fact one of the all time worst in the Super Bowl era for 5+ starts. Im not going completely dissect his playoff spreadsheet, I will just say his rating in 7 games is 54.9, his best playoff game was his last, a 2nd half performance against Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship that helped get the Patriots a date with the juggernaught Rams. My opinion is that Bledsoe threw the ball a lot and he reminds me of Namath from all the tape Ive seen of him, but unlike Namath, Bledsoe wasnt able to win a Championship, he had a much more consistent career but his playoff failures, albeit he did get the Pats to the Super Bowl in 96, holds him back. On his Hall of Fame candidacy Ill say I wouldnt be shocked or angered for him to make it in, but he would be one of the bottom tier Hall of Fame QBs. He wasnt bad, and he did succeed to an extent with the Bills, he also lacked some credible offensive weapons both on the Bills and Patriots, but putting him higher I dont see too many convincing arguments. Hes Top 50 because he had a pretty darn solid career and helped his teams win games, at least in the regular season.
47. Brian Sipe
Yes Cleveland fans, Sipe is ahead of your beloved Bernie Kosar, at least on my list. The reason being, not only that Sipe was named League MVP in 1980 ( and 2nd team all-pro in 79 ) but how productive he was on some pretty bad teams. You will be interested to find out that despite having Hall of Fame TE Ozzie Newsome, Sipe actually utilized his entire receiving core, most lackluster. For evidence take his MVP season 1980, in where Sipe threw a franchise record 30 TDs ( still the only Browns QB to hit 30 in a season ). That year of his 30 TDs no receiver caught more than 6 of them, that being RB Calvin Hill, who was actually utilized as a receiver that season. Also of SIpes 4,100 yards only Dave Logan lead the team with 800 receiving. Mike Pruitt was the only other Pro Bowler on the offense that year for the Browns, yet Sipe guided the Kardiac Kats to an 11-5 record and would lost one of the coldest games against the Raiders where a field goal could have won the game but Sam Rutigliano called Red Right 88 which resulted in SIpe being intercepted on a TD attempt in the endzone. Both Quarterbacks did not perform well in the horrid passing conditions that day. Sipe remains the Browns franchise leader in passing yards and left the NFL and the Browns abruptly in 83 and joined the USFL. He didnt went a playoff game but he was one of the more consistent QBs of his generation and on a pretty bad team to boot, maybe its out of sympathy but considering what Sipe did for the Browns organization I dont think hes placed too high. In regards to being somewhat similar to Bert Jones, Sipes played longer and put up better numbers on a less talented team.
46. George Blanda
Probably most well known for being the all time career leader in INTs until Favre broke it, Blandas was actually one of the more prolific passers of his generation, his early 60s seasons were quite monstrous and he lead the Oilers to two AFL Championships in 60 and 61. After 66 he was confined to kicking with the Raiders, where he made a Pro Bowl appearance in 67. His career longevity is the stuff of legends, retiring at age 48. Back to his days as a QB, despite only 9 seasons of noted production, he finished with a career 236 passing TDs ( top 5 in his day ), doing so by having, like I said, monstrous seasons, most notably in 61 where he threw for 36 TDs, which stood as the single season record for pro football until Marino shattered it along with Y.A. Tittle who set his 36 two years after Blanda. He was an AFL MVP in 61 and won the Bert Bell in 1970.
45. Ben Roethlisberger
Too soon? No. Roethlisberger is a to time Super Bowl Champion, a special distinction he shares with 8 other Quarterbacks, as a starter. Although his first Super Bowl was one of the worst performances as a winning QB, and under questionable circumstances, his game winning drive in Super Bowl XLIII, still fresh in our minds, is one of the single greatest performances on the NFLs grandest stage. Avoiding sure sacks more than once on the drive, Big Ben was simply magnificent. Unlike the drive held by Eli Manning just the year before which resulted in a last minute TD to go ahead, Roethlisberger wasnt sloppy, and he wasnt lucky, he was just on. It is a very rare thing to compare any present-day QB to Montana, and one must give out such a comparison carefully, but that was it, that drive was Montana-esque, and it wasnt the first nor last time Roethlisberger drove his team down the field to win the game. His record as a starter is other worldly, coming into the league winning his first 14 games ( including his first playoff game ). His current starter record in the regular season stands at 61-26 ( week 6 of 2010 ). His playoff record stands 8-2. Ironically his most prolific passing performance in the playoffs ended in a 2 point loss ( he passed for 337 yards ), and that is to note what Roethlisberger means to his team. People now say he doesnt have the stats, but he had shown everyone he can put up the numbers, in his 2007 and 2009 campaign his TD numbers, along with his TD:INT ratio are of Top end quality. But in both seasons his teams failed to make the playoffs. This is just to point out that a QB can put up big numbers but always needs a good defense to go all the way. Roethlisberger can put up pretty stats, but whats more important to him is winning and the guy is a born winner. He can only move up on this list and has the potential to be the greatest ever. Among his many intangible quality to be a winner, Roethlisberger is also one of the toughest QBs since Steve Young, and of course there is Favre. Roethlisberger on a massive frame is still able to run and dives head first in most situations. This makes him more susceptible to concussions and for his sake I do hope that doesnt cut a certain legendary career short. As of now he only needs to pad his stats or win another Championships to be immortalized in Canton.
44. Jim Plunkett
There are two things you absolutely have to know about Plunkett, first and foremost he is the only two time Super Bowl winning QB ( as starter ) to not be in the Hall of Fame. And secondly he was drafted first overall by the Patriots and thereby doomed to waste his younger years in the league. Still in his time with the Patriots he had some great performances, in his first season he beat a pair of playoff teams including the AFC Champion Dolphins in a 34-13 romp. Plunkett presented both arm strength and grand stature making him an intriguing prospect. Unable to get the Patriots to the playoffs he wasted two seasons with the lackluster 49ers before going the Raiders in 79 after a year out of the NFL. Twice in 1980 and 83 Plunkett came off the bench to lead the Raiders to the playoffs and Super Bowl Championships, once as a wild card team, the very first wildcard team in history to go all the way. Plunkett won SB-MVP honors in Super Bowl XV and amassed an 8-2 career playoff record. Plunkett is often presented as the ultimate comeback story ( indeed he won the AP Comeback in 1980 ) from fallen prospect to the ultimate winner. I wouldnt say hes a Hall of Famer, due to lack of consistently productive seasons but he should be remembered well as one of the great 50 QBs in NFL history.
43. Earl Morrall
The Greatest Backup, Morral was not only reliable, he was one of the more likable football personalities of his day. He had three great statistical seasons but you need only concentrate on his two greater than thou seasons to understand what kind of value he was. In 68, under coach Shula, the 34 year old Morrall lead the Colts to a 13-1 record while also leading the league in TDs and coming away League MVP. He was however unable to hold down the Jets and one of the greatest upsets in sport history, Unitas relieved Morrall and came up with the only TD for the Colts that day. Morrall however was not finished, he would go 9-0 in the 1972 regular season for the still lone undefeated Dolphins of NFL lore where he was named first team all-pro. In the AFC Championship that 72 season, he was replaced by Brian Griese who lead the Dolphins on two TD drives to win the game 21-17. Griese was named starter for the Super Bowl and Morrall was forced to watch on the sidelines the Dolphins finish 17-0. His career playoff record is what holds him back, but Morrall did actually win a Super Bowl, though he did not start it, in Super Bowl V he replaced an injured Unitas to lead the Colts to a 16-13 record. Overall his regular season record finished at 63-37-3. IO would say Morrall wasnt a complete choker as he did lead the Colts to that Super Bowl V victory, but was benched twice, by Unitas in Super Bowl III and Griese, so two playoff games being benched for poor play certainly loses you some points. The other thing is to understand how much Shula helped Morrall, but I still feel confident in Morrals career placed this high.
42. Drew Brees
You might think he hasnt played long enough, but you be wrong. Brees has put up six consecutive seasons going into 2010 at star quality. In fact Brees has statistically outperformed the vaunted Peyton Manning from 2006-2009. He fell 16 yards short of surpassing Marinos single season yards total in 2008 and set the single season pass completion mark of 70.6 ( beating the previous record with over 100 more completions ) in 2009. Brees also set the single season completions record in 2007. In terms of winning Brees had had to put up with injuries and a largely lacking receiving corp, for instance in his 5,000 yard performance of 2008 he didnt have a single receiver eclipse 1,000 yards, the closest being Lance Moore who has yet to make a Pro Bowl or have a notable season. As for his playoff resume, Brees has in 6 games put up impeccable numbers throwing for 13 TDs and only 2 INTs with a 103.7 QB Rating. In his 2009 Super Bowl run where he finished with SB MVP honors he completed more than 70% of his passes ( including 82.1 in the Super Bowl ) and throwing for 8 TDs with not a single pick. He still has the opportunity to walk away with the Greatest of all Time title.
#41. Roman Gabriel
The 1969 League MVP, Gabriel carved up a Canton worthy career going 86-64-7 and eclipsing 200 TDs with 4 Pro Bowl honors on some questionable offenses. Ill say right now his weakness was protecting the ball, not threw the air so much as fumbling 105 times in 157 starts. He lead the league in passing TDs twice. As to the talent on his teams, he had Harold Carmichael and Charle Young in Philadelphia and nobody in his time with the Rams. In fact his 69 MVP season came with no run game and no receiver showing any star power, he threw 24 TDs to only 7 INTs that year, still one of the greatest passing seasons in terms of efficiency in NFL history. Fun fact, if you look up the single season leaders for lowest INT percentage in a season, Gabriel ranks 61st, however he is one of only two QBs before 1985 in that top 61. The other QB is Bart Starr who had the #1 and #2 lowest INT percentage seasons ever when he retired. If that doesnt give you an impression of how efficient Gabriel was, look at the highlight film. The defenses he had were one of the best all time with the Fearsome Foursome including Hall of Famers Olsen and Jones, but Gabriel made the offense relevant to win games. Unfortunately for Gabriel and the Rams, 10-3-1 record in 68 wasnt enough for a playoff game ( same division as the 13-1 Colts ) and the two playoff games resulted in losses to the eventual Super Bowl Champion Packers in 67 and Super Bowl upset Vikings in 69, a game in which the Rams were up 17-7 at the half. His two playoff games did not yield victories but neither were terrible performances ( his 35.5 completion percentage against the Packers in 67 came in Green Bay weather and he threw 1 TD to 1 INT ). Gabriel actually should be in the Hall, for his time he finished 9th in career TDs, 6th by NFL numbers and if he had more offensive weapons I am confident he would have won at least one Championship, after all this is what separates him with contemporaries such as Len Dawson and Starr. And his lack of star receivers is what keeps him from putting up Jurgensen and Y.A. Tittle numbers.
40. Don Meredith
Somehow I left Meredith out of the numbered rankings, I had him on the initial list but oddly enough not numbered. He was hovering in the top 40, so I leave him here in a tie for #40. It is Don Meredith who holds the record for longest pass in the air, an 83 yard strike to "Bullet" Bob Hayes. His career was cut short, by his own decision, some say due to his inability to deal with angry fans when he was unable to supplant the Packers in back to back NFL Championships. His career may be short but the greatness is not diminished. As mentioned, physically he is one of the greatest passer in NFL history, Dandy Don was in Dallas when it all began, the 1960 season which saw a putrid record of 0-11-1 on a team of misfits. He stuck through and came out a winner leading the Cowboys to their first winning season in 66. Statistically he was a productive and efficient passer for his time, finishing with 135 TDs to 111 INTs and he could get out of the pocket when he had to. Looking at games from 65-68 you get a real nice sense of what a pioneer he was for some high powered offenses to come, particularly in Dallas.
40. Neil Lomax
Call me a homer all you want, Lomax spent his entire career on a consistently lackluster squad and came out one of the most productive QBs of his time. Yes, that is correct, in the time of Marino, Moon and Montana, Lomax etched out a pretty consistent and immensely underrated career. Despite the fact only once did he get the Cardinals to the post-season, he only had 2 of his 8 seasons end in a losing record. He got injured almost every season, injured to the extent where he had to miss a couple of games or more, and undoubtedly played through injury most of his seasons. The numbers speak for themselves, his finest full season in 84 ( one of only two full seasons ) he put up a still Cardinals single season record 4,614 yards with 28 TDs and only 16 INTs. That season was largely overshadowed by Marino, who had arguably the greatest season by a QB to date, though Lomax made the Pro Bowl and named 2nd team he was behind Marino in most of the meaningful passing statistics. He would come back in 87, strike shortened for the pro players and in 12 games lead the league in yards and completions. Aside from his first two years, he never threw more picks than scores for the Cardinals, eclipsing 20 TDs in a season four times, a mark still not surpassed in Cardinals franchise history, in 7 he was again named to 2nd team. He would retire after the 88 season due to hampering injuries, primarily to his leg and hip. In his time on the Cards, his coaches were Jim Hanifan and Gene Stallings. He had Ottis Anderson as a RB for a few seasons and no notable receivers aside from Roy Green, who although he made two first team all-pros, benefited largely from Lomax and I will maintain that. Although he did have a good LT in Luis Sharpe. If you're interested there are for some reason a few full ( split scene ) games of the 84 and 87 Cardinals playing the Rams on youtube. Although I wish I could find you the video where down 28-3 to Tampa Bay, Lomax lead one of the greatest and largely forgotten combacks in NFL history, coming back to win it 31-28. That was what Lomax could do, and given a better supporting case I have no doubt in my mind he would have won more than one Championship.
39. John Brodie
The 1970 League MVP carved out a pretty extensive career, both statistically and leading his team to division titles, but probably best remember for losing to the Dallas Cowboys every freaking time. Indeed his 3 playoff losses to the Boys ( two in the NFL Championship ) were horrendous performances. Collectively however his body of work speaks for itself. He retired top ten in essentially every meaningful career passing statistics, except for Championships. He lead the league in passing three times and in TDs twice. In terms of winning it's not so cut dry, largely up and down depending how one looks at it. What Brodie had was a good team that he played well for, but just not good enough to beat the arguably better built Cowboys. I'm not going to call him out on it completely, but that's why he isn't higher, maybe if he did beat those Cowboys he would have some Super Bowl rings. In the end he spent 17 seasons with the same team, and was the face of the 49ers for a long time, by default I think he was a step below Favre really, and who's to say how he would have fared under some better coaches.
38. Daryle Lamonica
Nicknamed "The Mad Bomber", Lomica was a beast, both statistically and with winning in his day. He was named league MVP by the Associate Press in 67 and by the UPI in both 67 and 69 ( beating out Namath in 69 who won AP ). To start, the man didn't lose a game he started until his 5th season, and in 67, his first full season as starter he went 13-1 and as mentioned was unanimously voted MVP. He would finish his career with a mesmerizing 75% win percentage, of his regular season starts, going 66-16-6. In five playoff runs he would go one and done only once, in his last playoff game of his career. He would lose in Super Bowl II but his most memorable big game should be against the Jets where he posted 400 yards and his team failed to stop Namath in the last minutes. My closing thoughts on him and his career from what I've seen, including the famous Heidi Game, is that he was a physically gifted Quarterback, and immensely gifted QB and was one of the most efficient and productive of his day, in that he didn't risk as many turnovers as his contemporaries. He was a winner in both the regular season and yes, the playoffs where he did win games and got his team to title games in the AFL and counting the Super Bowl. Naysayers who point to his inflated stats due to the style of the AFL ignore his two Pro Bowls while in the NFL in 70 and 72.
37. Bob Waterfield
One of the earliest Hall of Famers, Waterfield lands at #37, he was able to lead his team to the NFL Championship in his rookie year, something only Sammy Baugh matched and has not been done since. He ended up sharing time on the juggernaught Rams offense with Norm Van Brocklin. On his own Waterfield was named to three first team all-pros. Due to his generation, it's hard to find more than highlights of his playing days, though there is the 45 NFL Championship. What I have to go on is his accolades, winning the MVP in 45, and his team accomplishments which he helped to bring about. Being a Hall of Famer I can't place him too low because what kind of message would I be sending? From what has been said of him ESPN and NFL Network, he seems to be one of the pioneer passing QBs of the NFL and that itself is worth a ton.
36. Boomer Esiason
Not many QBs have such large peaks in their careers which put focus on their once shinning brilliance and then some harsh valleys to show how somewhere along the line, they just lost it. Aside from his few brilliant seasons with the late 80s Bengals in Sam Wyche's no huddle offense, Esiason can be classified as a compiler, never having the same success aside from perhaps 93, statistically and with winning. He did show flashes of brilliance late in his career, namely the 522 yards while with the Cardinals in an OT thriller. He's never making the Hall of Fame and I wouldn't even make an argument for him being there, but with a good coach and a solid supporting cast, Boomer would get you the wins and put up nice numbers while doing it. He came oh so close to winning the Super Bowl, but you just can't Montana, and that's where Esiason's story of success really ends. He does have a pretty big mouth which suits him for broadcasting, his play is, well, he had the arm to do what he wanted and I will give him respect for doing what he did on those Jets teams and his renaissance season in 97 with the Bengals is one of hollywood. I'm just not going to go any further than that.
35. Steve McNair
Air McNair gets on here because of his duel threat and uncanny leadership skills which time and again saw him lead his teams to success and at times valiant performances in defeat. He was named the 2003 League MVP ( shared with Manning ) and named to 3 Pro Bowls. Statistically the man was a nuclear warhead having a tremendous agility scrambling, a great TD:INT, reliable accuracy and simply winning mentality that wim 96 games, including playoffs in his illustrious career which was cut short by his own decision to retire at 33. He still holds the record for most rushing yards by a Quarterback in the Super Bowl and his drive that saw ended with " One Yard Short " is something every sports fan must see for it is a thing of beauty. Note McNair had a largely average receiving core, with a good but perhaps overrated Derrick Mason ( and his tendancy to drop balls at bad times). He did have an all time guard in Bruce Mathews and a great runningback in Eddie George, but without McNair his teams would be .500 at best. His first season on the Ravens saw him elevate the offense two fold and guide them to a 13-3 record which saw them lose against the eventual Super Bowl Champion Colts. Like his last playoff game, McNair had his downfalls but from roughly 99-03 he was electric and simply unstoppable.
34. Joe Theismann
Who knows what Theismann would have done had he not tried being a rebel and played for the Argos in the CFL the three seasons his would be NFL team, the Dolphins made 3 consecutive Super Bowls, winning two. Don't get me wrong I like the fact he played in Canada, but his late push for glory ended up costing him a spot in Canton which I am certain he would have had with a longer career. As it is, Theismann made 2 Super Bowls, winning one and was named a League MVP in 83 on, at the time, the highest scoring offense in NFL history. His 6-2 playoff record adds to his mystique, having only put up one bad playoff performance ( and it's subjective as to whether it was actually bad and not Joe Gibbs' fault ). Lawrence Taylor ended his career in 85 in one of sports most brutal injuries and that was that. I say the man had some hard stones to pull off the one bar facemask, which he defended as allowing him better visibility.
33. Dave Krieg
I have heard some reference Krieg as the poor man's Bledsoe, to which I agree. Krieg put up solid numbers, and won games, on several different teams. He helped the Seahawks, Lions and Chiefs to playoff berths and did it most with limited talent. Yes, Steve Largent is an obvious choice and in Seattle Krieg would lead the Seahawks to the NFC Championship, territory they would not reach for 20 years after. It was Krieg who managed the playoff Chiefs the season before Montana came in and it was Krieg who put up a valiant effort to help Barry push the Lions into contender status. He also wasn't bad on the Bears his las season giving them the best chance to win, if only they had sufficient talent. Krieg is in my books THE most underrated player, I think like Lomax he wasn't given his fair due, but unlike Lomax he was able to have some decent teams around him and was able to have a long career. When he retired Krieg he was 7th in passing yards, 7th in passing TDs and won the 5th most games. He belongs in the Hall of Fame because he showed time and again suceeding on multiple teams, that he had the tools, the leadership and in the end the collective body of work to deserve merit. Hard to say who I would replace who's in the Hall now with Krieg, but I would say he should at least be remembered as an all-time great.
32. Y.A. Tittle
Starting his career with the Baltimore Colts, Tittle became known famously as the leader of the Million Dollar backfield in San Francisco. He finds himself in the Hall of Fame largely due to his 15th and 16th seasons on the Giants where he was 36 and 37 years of age. The numbers he put up were staggering. Tying an NFL record with 36 passing TDs in one season in 63 after throwing 33 the year before. His downfall well documented in a photo I don't want to tread on his legacy by posting. He would lose all five of his playoffs game, two division and three consecutive Championship games from 61-63. His three Championship losses in particularly saw him overwhelmingly under-perform and perhaps may be the first QB widely labeled a choker. I'm not going to be as harsh, the man mad 7 Pro Bowlers and was named the best QB in the league on three occasions. Notching an AP MVP in 63, two UPI MVPs in 57 and 62 and two NEA MVPs in 61 and 63. He retired all time leader in career passing yards, touchdowns and completions and finished with a starter regular season record of 78-52-5. Less we forget the Favre/Marino of his generation.
31. Donovan McNabb
Some say Hall of Famer, and some will laugh at the notion, I am the former. His passing ability is impeccable ( greatest TD-INT ratio in NFL history ), his physical abilities, tantamount ( scrambling and cannon arm ). His accomplishments are many, save for the one, and I mean one blotch on his resume, lack of a Championship. Like Marino however, McNabb lacked the consistent surrounding talent on offense, albeit Westbrook offered a Marshall Faulk type weapon. Though he never won a Super Bowl, McNabb is one of the best playoff performers, up until last season he had never lost his first playoff game in six outings. He would make 5 NFC Championship Appearances, a mark he shares with Brett Favre and only Montana has a higher count ( 6 ). For all the bad rep he's gotten for under-performing in the playoffs he completed nearly 60% of his passes for over 3,700 yards with 24 TDs to 17 INTs, and frankly if his receivers didn't drop so many balls he would have made more than one Super Bowl. His valiance in defeat is also underestimated. He showcased one of the greatest would be comebacks in NFL history when he brought the Eagles all the way back from 24-6 to take the lead 25-24 before Kurt Warner marched the Arizona offense down field against an Eagles defense which had, as times before, failed McNabb. If he played on most other teams, he would never get booed, but playing for the Eagles he had to consistently hear of hate chants calling him a loser. No Eagles QB has won more games for the franchise, and no Eagles QB has had the consistent playoff success as McNabb, decades from now, Eagles fans will talk of him as if he were a Greek God. For now, his career is yet to be completed and I think a stamp to Canton is all but a certainty
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I can't wait for Warner to be top 3 and Peyton to be outside the top 10.
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That was a very hard game to watch. What gets me is the lack of hustle on both ends of the floor. Has anybody noticed that when Dwight gets a defensive rebound, he gets the ball to the PG like he's supposed to but then he doesn't even try to get down the floor? Essentially the Lakers are playing 4 on 5 when he does that. It gives the other team a help defender which basically makes it easier to double Kobe.
I knew there's no way Nash could guard CP3. Paul has been nothing short of spectacular this season. It really makes you wonder what might have been.... For the defense to give up 125 points is ridiculous. Chauncey Billups played 16 minutes and put up 21 points and he's still not 100%. I could go on and on but it's really not worth it. This team is frustrating to watch.
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