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Published: August 5, 2012 at 11:06 PMIf you are a child or someone whose main purpose of the trip is thrill rides, I can see Epcot not being your favorite park.....
I will say that last trip to Disney I took.... I had a friend who had never been to any Disney Park with me..... we went to all the four major Disney Parks at WDW resort and EPCOT was her favorite. This was an adults trip though.
I do think EPCOT could use more attractions, but I have yet to go there and feel like I did everything that day. I still feel like I have not fully explored parts of the World Showcase due to a lack of time.... and maybe money as eating at the resteraunts there is a big draw..... although paying that much for a ticket to get into a park to then pay that much to eat is a little odd for it to be one of the biggest draws of the park (the fine dining, unlike other theme parks usually).
I do think it would be awesome if they could finally put the Matterhorn type ride in that was rumored to go there at one time. Even more dark rides would be a fine addition to me.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 3:32 AMConstructive criticism is a sign of true love. However, tearing down without building up - we reserve that kind of ire for Six Flags parks! =)
To your specific point, most of us love the idea of Epcot. We love what Epcot once was, but the reality of today's version of the park: it needs a 1.2B makeover. It is still my favorite of the US Disney parks, but again, I love what it tries to be, more than what it is.
Looking forward to the new series...
Published: August 6, 2012 at 4:22 AMSpot on Robert! I love everything Disney, however, Epcot does need a good injection of "pixie dust" to liven things up.
For the past two years each time we visit and ride Soarin' it gets worse and worse. The film is in terrible shape and I actually mentioned it to guest services the last time we were there. They completely agreed with me. That seems to be an easy fix, but.....two years!
Epcot needs two new "E" ticket rides ASAP and some other sprucing as well. My own personal opinion is Disney is quite happy with attendance figures driven by the Flower and Garden show and the Food and Wine Festival and have become complacent.
We were able to get lunch or dinner reservations at pretty much any restaurant at Epcot any weekend day by hitting the priority seating website and that has been nearly impossible to do June through August in years past.
Is it a sign?
Published: August 6, 2012 at 4:31 AMWhen I came from Europe 25 years ago I was going to fulfill a dream I had as a kid, visiting Disney World. A kid from my school had been there and his vacation slides he presented made me want to go there (the second dream was visiting the pyramids in Egypt).
Published: August 6, 2012 at 4:56 AMTwo thoughts:
First, I think I ultimately have a problem with the critiques that are based on a sense of nostalgia. I don't think one should complain simply because a park doesn't maintain itself in some sort of timeless utopia for you alone. I also take issue with the critiques that are simply pointing out flaws with out offering ideas on how to affect change. Both of these types of critique are just downers and feel bitter.
Second, I would disagree to a certain point about Epcot. Yes, Future World needs to be hooked up to a cash infusing AED and shocked at full power But, I think World Showcase has performed its function quite well. For some pavilions (Mexico, China, and Japan) there are few spots on Disney soil where I can feel more immersed in an exotic environment than when I am there. I think the sensations of seeing, hearing, smelling, and most definitely tasting all the things the World Showcase has to offer is the main attraction. I don't need and omnimover or roller coaster to truly enjoy this trip around the world.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 5:43 AMYour not a true fan of themeparks if you don't have ideas of your own to male it better. I'm a diehard miami dolphins fan an I criticize them everyday
Published: August 6, 2012 at 6:43 AMYou can absolutely be critical of something that you like/love. The problem I have is when people seem to be "destructive" in their criticism. For example Robert, you say Epcot needs more top rated attractions. You don't say things like "Why are they redoing Test Track? It was fine the way it was. It looks like Tron. Tron is stupid. They need to spend money on a new e-ticket. But if they made a new e-ticket, TDO would cut the budget in half. How come they can redo TT but they can't bring back Lights of Winter?"
Published: August 6, 2012 at 7:29 AMNothing is perfect, including Disney. Wherever there is room for improvement, there is room for criticism. And considering that just about any Florida theme park would be my second home if I had the money, I say criticize what could be improved. You are still a fan.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 7:52 AMI think there are faults with damn near everything. Yes, I criticize my favorite parks (which, for the record are Islands of Adventure, Busch Gardens Williamsburg, Cedar Point, and Disneyland) as I want to see them get better. I absolutely adore Busch Gardens Williamsburg, love every aspect of the park, but I want them to make it even better. Strive for constant improvements.
As for EPCOT, I love that park. But I tend to love it to walk around, not for the great rides. It absolutely does need better rides. Universe of Energy has been awful since, well, forever. The World Showcase needs a new country. Journey into Imagination should be, well, better. Regardless, I still adore that park.
And it helps with parks that really do need improvements. I look at a park like Disney's California Adventure, a park I have been to once and thought it needed a lot more to make it worthwhile. While I have not been there in years, it sure looks like they have taken all of the criticism people have given them over that park and improved it greatly. And, for us, that is a good thing.
All parks, the great ones and the awful ones, can improve. As long as you are constructive with your criticism (and don't just fire off an angry email to the park president that states 'Your park SUCKS!!!!!!1111' without stating why it may suck) then being critical about a theme park can help them see where the improvements can come.
Also, if Cedar Point people read this: Please, for the love of God, tear down Mean Streak. I know you tried to make it better, but I have never been on a more painful ride in my life. Love your park otherwise, but that thing is awful.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 7:57 AMIf you criticize, it means you care. I friend of mine put it eloquently (we were both cast members at WDW at that time): "My favorite park is Animal Kingdom. And Epcot. And Magic Kingdom of course. But not MGM."
Epcot is nostalgia wrapped in more nostalgia, and I agree wholeheartedly - it needs a thorough upgrade, in all parts of the park. As a guest once described it, it's "just a bunch of shops around a lake".
Ellen's Energy Adventure is looking sadly dated compared to so many other new attractions these days, and installing Soarin' with a focus on California (?) was a strange and nice addition to the park - but it only added to the mellowness of Epcot. We all love Epcot, but it has few wow factors. Mission: Space is actually one of them, but it still drowns in all the other dated and "cute" attractions the park has to offer.
I don't believe the park should redefine its themes. Rather, update them like they did with Spaceship Earth.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 8:22 AMOf course you can criticize something and still be a fan of it… Heck, are you married.. Hahahah
Epcot is nice but I believe it is more geared for adults… They are in need of at least 2 more attractions. I believe Disney gets away with an average park because of the package deal when purchasing tickets. The more days you buy the average per day goes down.
Ask yourself this – Would you pay full price for 1 day at Epcot?
Published: August 6, 2012 at 8:26 AMI'm all for constructive criticism. That's what the American Idol, America's Best Dance Crew, and X-Factor fans don't understand. The judges aren't being mean, they're trying to provide feedback for improvement. Disney needs that for WDW.
What it doesn't need though, is the cynical, half-glass empty, always negative, nothing-is-ever-good-enough mentality of the internet. There are always people who are over critical and just complain without giving any solutions. That's a waste of time and energy.
So yes, you are still a fan as long as it's constructive criticism.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 8:30 AMEpcot's Future World was a great concept, but the upgrades changed the original concept; Horizons and World of Motion were rides about learning the past, present and future of humanity. On the other hand, Mission Space and Test Track are rides just for thrills. Epcot is losing its original appeal.
Robert, I go to Epcot every year, and I always watch Impressions de France; it never gets old, and its so beautiful.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 8:46 AMHey, don't take criticism of you personally although it might hurt. The best way to punish bad behavior is the criticize it and you felt it with your own criticism. Thus, keep up the criticism of Disney.
You don't have to patronize a bad park. There is nothing wrong with that. You said "I prefer to see fans be as willing to stand up to businesses as they are to stand up for them." Isn't that the problem? Fans are not standing up to them.
For a long time, people said DCA was a nice place to visit since it is uncrowded. This didn't exactly help DCA since few went there. So its "fans" are helping to keep a park in a zombie state. This is true for Disney Studios, Epcot, and Animal Kingdom. They are all Zombie Parks. They are on cruise control since they get plenty of business.
For other theme parks like Universal and Sea World, they don't have such fan support. They must compete. I'm glad they stepped it up and woke up the sleeping giant.
Disney's fans are doing the parks no favor.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 9:17 AMI like Epcot. Sure, it doesn't have a ton of super-awesome rides, but it's mildly nostalgic, and the World Showcase is one of the coolest places in a theme park. As far as what's already there, sure, Horizons is gone, and so is Body Wars and the majority of the pavilion it was in, but Mission: Space and Test Track are pretty cool rides. Imagination is a great way to beat the heat, since it's never full and it's a pretty relaxing ride.
I've never honestly been on Soarin', 'cause the lines are always atrocious, and Spaceship Earth, in spite of its apparent age and new changes, is still another cool ride to relax on later in the day after lunch, when everyone's ridden it already.
I don't think Epcot is high on the rankings for super-awesome thrills and stuff, but it's one of the few parks that engage you while it teaches you things and brings you new experiences.
As for the original question, yeah, you're still a fan if you criticize a theme park, because chances are if you're criticizing it you know enough about it to criticize it.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 10:03 AMThe world showcase should not have anything done to remodel it at all. It is highly enjoyable by fans of young and old, and it truly does immerse you into all the different countries while you are there. AKA "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Now, on the other hand, Future World needs some work. I'm not saying go and remodel all of spaceship earth; simply put, the rides are not the reason people choose to go there. I cannot think of the last time I can remember someone actually being excited to see The Land or even the Living Seas for that matter. Maybe a coaster (Tron anyone?) and a animatronic ride (Wall-E??) would make it a much longer stay for everyone
Published: August 6, 2012 at 10:28 AMi think disney world capitalizes on the idea that the sum of all the parts makes up for each individual park....3 of the 4 parks need a lot of work in them but its not going to happen (at least for a while) nobody is really pushing them attendance wise...
Published: August 6, 2012 at 11:15 AMExcellent points, Robert! I have long found EPCOT to be such a beautiful park with so much potential that just seems to fall short on the attractions side of things. They have so many roads to take with the theming in World Showcase and Future World, all they need is the thought and planning to be targeted towards some stellar Disney rides.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 11:18 AMYou are absolutely still a fan if you criticize. It means you still care. The problem, as I see it, is that the super "pixie dust" addicted fan base's screams of FOAMER!!11! sort of drowns out the voices of those that want the parks to reach their full potential. That's why I like this site so much, is the levelheadedness of the users and authors. Anyone else frequent other fan forums and sites? It gets scary. Anyone that criticizes is automatically labeled a "hater" and told "not to go anymore if they don't like them so much." Of we course we still like the parks, we just want to them to be the best parks that they can be. Disney set the bar high, they should keep striving to reach and exceed that level of greatness. It's not the guests or fans fault that Disney sometimes fails to meet those standards. I am looking forward to your new feature Robert!
Published: August 6, 2012 at 12:04 PMYes, you can criticize a park and still be a fan. In fact, you should do so if you are a fan. No matter what people say, I don't think it is possible to make a perfect park. Even at my favorite parks, I always find things that could be improved. Of course, criticism should be constructive, and should be intelligent. I hate it when people say "tear down xx and build a 500 ft coaster" or "Disneyland is a kiddie park, they need more extreme thrill rides," etc. because comments like these are meaningless. I highly doubt most parks have the budget for a 500 ft coaster, and Disneyland will never be a thrill park. However, something like "Six Flags Magic Mountain really needs to train the Tatsu crew to be more efficient" is perfectly valid since it is a major flaw that can easily be corrected by the park.
As far as Epcot goes, I've always thought it looked like the best WDW park in terms of theming and atmosphere, but also the worst in terms of an actual amusement/theme park. The place doesn't have a ton of attractions, and a number of them (including almost everything in World Showcase) seem like they would be boring if you aren't interested in the subject matter. Epcot has always been the park that I've said, "If I have to miss one of the four parks at Disney World, it's that one." Now that we have Radiator Springs Racers in California, Epcot really lacks appeal to me and would be at most 1 day out of a 5 day Disney World trip (unless they add a couple major, unique attractions by the time I finally get a chance to visit Florida).
Published: August 6, 2012 at 12:09 PMsooooo much to say and so little time... mmmm. im going to write a nice response to all of this im just going to post this for now :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC5zts4ZsGo
Published: August 6, 2012 at 12:17 PMThe problem that Epcot is having with Future World is how to keep the sense of Future. Instead of creative rides about the future in a classic "DISNEY" way, they're building rides that contain futuristic technologies and concepts. It's hard NOT to compare old Epcot to new Epcot.
I can say that Spaceship Earth, one of my favorite attractions, has become a bit stale for me. The ride is still great in the beginning, and some of the new scenes are kind of cool. I'm not a huge fan of the new narration, and the ending scene that is all on a touch screen is SUCH a massive waste of space for amazing sets. That ride was just an overdose of eye candy for me (albeit cheesy). And now, it's just pretty lights. I truly feel like the video display at the end of the ride could have easily been done in the pavilion at the exit. Find your face, and then answer the questions, and it'll show you your future.
Mission: Space is also a joke to me. I never went on Horizons when I was there while it was open. :( But, ignoring Horizons, Mission: Space is just a bedazzled spinner. It's really ridiculous how much money the ride apparently cost. To me it's a flop. It's thrilling just by pure force, but is actually rather boring. The zero G part could have the pods be turned more upside down or something. The spinning part is too forceful sometimes, and the simulation part is a snooze-fest.
As with Test Track, I'm actually cool with the updates. It looks tron-esque but from the concept art it'll just be eye candy stuff while educating about cars. I dig. Edutainment rides are one of my favorites.
Ironically, I also feel like Living with the Land, and Universe of Energy are GREAT attractions. I love that they removed the guide on LWTL, and there is something about Universe of Energy I love so much...I can't put my finger on it. Just wish there was more ride part, but I digress.
The thing that epcot needs to start learning is that it IS a theme park. It needs rides/attractions. And if Universal Hollywood can realize this-and get ride of a massive part of City Walk for rides-then so can Epcot. People were talking about a ride that was conceptualized in the Japan section (might've be shelved/not real), and a Grizzly River Run type ride in Canada. If those two attractions were created then that alone would easily make Epcot THAT much more of the park to be at.
(On a side note, I've noticed the ranking of Disneyland parks is so dynamic, that in a decade DCA could be on the bottom, and Epcot could be on the top. It changes often!)
Published: August 6, 2012 at 12:22 PMI sent this to screamscape. I hope Lance posts it for I know a lot of people do read his website as well. I think we really bring this whole issue to light.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 2:44 PMI am a huge fan of Epcot, although it does show a very romantic view of all the counries in world showcase i guess that what really appeals. I think EPCOT is a very misunderstood themepark, its nice to actually get away from the Micky and co for a day and see rides and attractions that dont have the your usual disney characters plastered all over everything. I guess like anything new themes and rides will be very costly, if i had a say in what was going in I would certainly love to see more country centric rides for example China maybe a ride with a flying Kite theme or a 3d tour of chinas diverse flora and fauna.. Japan the bullet train ride ( which i hear has been an idea that has been knocking about for a while ) Germany maybe some kind of ride on the history of music making use of the latest audio technology. Canada Grizley river rapids as mentioned by other readers, UK, Mary Popins or a replical of the London eye ( maybe not as big ), these are some of my ideas, certainly it seems that the back end of world showcase US and beyond they either ran out of time, money or ideas or all 3 but that park of the park seems a bit weak. As for headline rides, well I'm kinda in the camp that says EPCOT isnt IOA or Busche Gardens it has its only very unique feel and atmosphere so I hope it keeps its core values. Given the choice of missing out on a park i'd happily miss out on IOA and keep EPCOT... so maybe EPCOT is just doing what it set out to do appeal to those people that want something a bit different and stimulating... in my opinion I hope that themeparks dont go down the Micheal Bay route... lots of noise lots to look at but nothing that stimulates the brain......
Published: August 6, 2012 at 5:11 PMThe best parts of EPCOT are not rated on this site. The shows, the experience, and yes, the rides.
While EPCOT could use some sprucing up, you are honestly telling me that its is the second worst park?
This website convinced me that DCA was the worst thing Disney had ever done about 8 years ago. Now it is greater than the any of the WDW parks?
I gotta tell you something that I did not like about DL the last time I was there (2010). Cast members could not stop themselves from bashing Disney World parks the entire time! It was quite unsettling. I really feel that the CA experience is much different than the FL experience.
Call me a fool, but EPCOT has the extremely successful Food and Wine Festival vs DCA who couldn't even get vineyards for the state to even show up!
Sorry, I had to get that out.
To answer you question, yes, you can be a fan and still criticize
Published: August 6, 2012 at 5:29 PMAlthough Epcot is still my favorite park, it does need some help and has been ignored for several years.
The biggest problems in Future World are the same ones that have been around for several years:
* The Imagination Pavillion;
The architecture is beautiful, the water portions are still original and fun to watch, but.......
The ride is a mere shadow of what it once was, it needs to be entirely redone.
It needs a new 3D movie (EO was always bad and I shrunk the audience ran it's course years ago)
The imagination center can't keep up with technology anymore. Rethink the entire concept if necessary
* The Wonders of Life;
Shut down for how many years now? DO SOMETHING WITH IT!
* Innovations East and West;
They were cutting edge once upon a time, now you go inside just to cool off or get out of the rain. DO SOMETHING WITH THEM!
* The Odyssey Center;
It used to be a nice restaurant and way station. Now it's only function is as a bathroom stop and baby changing center?
* Test track....cool, but way too unreliable. Just like GM cars, it breaks down too much.
* Mission Space….cool, but they had to tame it down as it was too extreme for most folks in the beginning
That said, Future World is the most visually appealing of all of the theme parks I have ever been to.
Also, there are literally thousands of 'little things' to see and do in every nook and cranny of the park. which are such a big part of the overall experience and appeal (which can't be rated on a scale of 1-10 like a 'ride').
And the park as a whole has more things to see and do then any other park in the world…..by far, in my opinion.
There are also many problems in the World Showcase due to lack of imagination (or money) for several years as well:
Not enough attractions or rides and some 'countries' are virtual wastelands (with the exception of dining/shopping areas).
* Morocco, what's the point if you aren't going to eat or shop there?
* Germany….see above (it used to be the only place they served beer in Epcot long long ago, but now)?
* Italy….see above
* Japan….see above
There is so much history in all of these countries, why couldn't they think of some kind of an attraction to put there?
USA, worst restaurant in all of Epcot. Why not put a great BBQ restaurant here? Whats more American than BBQ?
And they need at least 1-2 more 'lands or countries' (more if they would dump a place like Morocco which I don't see the point of as a 'land' anyway)?
How about; Australia, 'the Arctic', Russia, the 'heart of Africa', several European or Asian countries, etc
Published: August 6, 2012 at 8:01 PMI like the points made by the number person! I will admit, Future World does need some rehab. I actually like Innoventions, but I am a science nerd! I always enjoy the House of Tomorrow!
However, I disagree with you on Italy and especially Germany and Japan. Italy used to be my least favorite location in World Showcase, but its really turned itself around with the Via Napoli. I was lucky to be able to eat pizza in the actual Naples. This folks is the real deal.
Germany is one of the underrated locations in all of World Showcase. They seem to have something for everybody: Beer, Toys, Clocks, Hummel Figurines, Christmas. They also have the best snacks in all of EPCOT with gummi bears, carmels, and real pretzels. The indoor buffet is also underrated with excellent food and music. I feel Germany really shows how they are important and how they affect American culture (then again, I am from the Midwest).
Between shopping and food, I think Japan is one of the strongest countries in World Showcase. I think we can chalk that up to the Japanese being extremly good at Guest Service. I would say that they genuinely friendly and willing to help you out! I find the candy lady also a very rare treat (I believe she is the only woman in the world to do this art). You can always rely on the store to find the perfect gift as well! Something for every person's budget!
Maybe this is actual nostalgia, but I have much more vivid and striking memories of EPCOT than I do at any other the other parks. Whether its going down the river to Debussey, watching Michelangelo paint the Sistine Chapel, or Illuminaitons!
Published: August 6, 2012 at 8:21 PMI've named EPCOT my favorite theme park for years, but I've begun to wonder. I still love the overall atmosphere of walking through Future World and World Showcase. No park can match it; the closest for me is Disneyland. But there's a point where the attractions are getting embarrassing. Ellen's Energy Adventure, Journey Into Imagination, the Mexico boat ride, the descent of Spaceship Earth, and parts of the Living Seas. Plus, we have an empty Wonders of Life pavilion and Mission Space, which is just okay.
I don't need EPCOT to be Islands of Adventure, but I would like to see some improvements. They don't even need new attractions. If Disney upgraded the Universe of Energy, Journey into Imagination, and the Spaceship Earth descent, that would make a huge difference and completely change Future World. Putting anything in Wonders of Life and upgrading Innoventions would be a bonus. I don't expect this would take funds on the level of the California Adventure overhaul. The infrastructure is there for spending in the hundreds of millions to make a huge upgrade.
Disney is being short-sighted with EPCOT. They're raking in the money with special events, but they'd make it a true must-see destination for everyone with some updates. I'm trying to stay optimistic. Universal keeps pushing Disney to react, and the great success of Cars Land shows what happens when you upgrade the parks.
Published: August 6, 2012 at 9:58 PMPart of the success of DCAs reopening is by putting more of Disney characters and stories into the park...little mermaid, cars, classic 1920s and 30s characters in Buena vista street and more. That being said wouldn't the new rattatouille ride fit in perfectly in the France pavillion? How about a Mulan dark ride in China?
Published: August 7, 2012 at 12:11 AMI've been mulling over this post for a few days.
My wife and I will be back in Orlando this November. It will be 4 years since our last visit and we are looking forward not only to revisiting our favourite parks but also to sampling the new offerings opened since our last visit. And yet when I actually stop to add up what's new it's an interesting mix. Since we last came 4 years ago the following major attractions have opened:
Islands of Adventure: Harry Potter
Universal Studios: Evening Show
Sea World: Manta
Busch Gardens: Cheetah Hunt
And then we come to Disney which has... a new Star Tours.
Fantasy Land would be open if we delayed our trip by another month or two but otherwise there's nothing new at any of the Disney parks. Nothing in 4 years...
Now we are huge Disney fans and are staying on Disney World because why wouldn't you? And we#ll have a great time in the Disney parks as well as the others. But it's sobering to realise that there will have been no new attractions in all that time across any of the 4 parks. I think Robert is right - Disney needs to stop coasting and start investing in order to stay at the top.
Published: August 7, 2012 at 6:06 AMThank you, Robert! I get so tired of people saying you are a "hater" if you have the least criticism of their favorite park. Nothing is further from the truth!
I'm looking forward to next week and the following weeks because it looks like this could be a rowdy discussion! Hopefully we can throw in some of the "steel" parks as well! ;>)
Published: August 7, 2012 at 7:15 AMEpcot was actually designed to be an actual city of the future by Walt, it never happened and became just a park. Why I criticize WDW so much is that I used to love going down to Disney when I was a kid to my teen years. I loved and was amazed at everything even before downtown disney, animal kingdom, and MGM now Disney Studios. I remember getting this card, it wasn't a dinner card but a full access card that let you do anything like dine at the most fantastic restaurants or use the speed boats from the Polynesian sipping the pineapple mixture through the actual pineapple there. We stayed at the Polynesian when the Grand Floridian wasn't even built. My parents said it was one of the best vacations we ever took because to stay and get those cards was a great value. After that year they stopped doing the cards and started having multiple price level hotels in years to follow and prices sky rocketed to where we could not afford to stay at a place like the Polynesian and they took out the pineapple drink in the pineapple....damn them lol. We stayed at a "moderate" hotel about 12 years ago and it was like staying in a motel 6 dressed up. The prices were astronomical for the "grand" hotels and they still are.
I just looked at the prices for Disneyland hotel where it was 500 buck for "value" days to stay in a grand lodge to see cars land. I'm from Ohio so if I go out there I'm staying for more days then just two or three so I'm paying 3500 bucks for a 7 night experience so I can be close to the parks. Maybe get in an hour early on specific days and thats in value days and I'm only talking about the hotel. Prices for my girlfriend and I to eat are out of this world if we want to sit down. Sure we like self service if we are in a hurry but we also like to sit and have a nice meal too. Plus the tickets, every one says its a great value to get more days but you still have to pay for each person in your party. It would cost more than 5000 bucks to stay onsite in a normal room for just two people, me included. You tack on airfare, transportation, sight seeing, souvenirs and it goes up to maybe 7 to 9 thousand bucks, thats allot of cash in the piggy banks.
Just in comparison I could stay at The Bellagio in Las Vegas, a five star hotel that beats any disney hotel anywhere for about 100 dollars a night or the Venetian for about 150 a night. Both of those resorts outshines anything Disney has in the states, I haven't been to anything Disney outside the states so I can't judge, by service, by comfort, by luxury, and by pure awe feeling. Now I get that Disney hotels are close to a theme park but should you pay 4 to 6 hundred more for that fact.
To sum it up because I'm running long, Disney has lost its magic because it put cost to be its major concern where Walt was a genius and he wanted the imagination in all of us to shine is blocked by the dollar sign. WWWD - What would walt do? He wouldn't have prices like this I'll tell you that. Sprinkle your fairy dust kids and come to the giant black ears and have your parents go bankrupt.
Published: August 7, 2012 at 7:35 AM@David Brown: You missed some attractions and shows that are new:
It only adds to your point.
Published: August 7, 2012 at 8:30 AMThe number person made good points. After Pandora, Epcot is going to need some work.
Published: August 7, 2012 at 9:37 AMI like WDW, but also enjoyed going to IOA and Sea World. EPCOT was probably the last original park idea at Disney. It seems that DHS and AK were made to offer alternatives to USF and Sea World or Busch Gardens. Also, I've heard that the DCA expansion had more to do with crowd control at DL. If we apply that template to WDW, then it becomes apparent that the other parks serve as crowd control for MK. There are just enough attractions to draw crowds to lessen the impact on MK. I wonder if the bean counters are a little slow on the draw because they like this idea. New E-tickets are nice, but they increase attendance and congestion for an already overcrowded resort during peak season. They seems to only respond to threats -- WWOHP leads to Avatar. However, it seems they still follow the current paradigm. Just enough of an alternative to keep the crowd at the resort and crowds under control.
Published: August 7, 2012 at 12:03 PMTodd...you can easily find a hotel across the street from Disneyland for 75-150$ a night depending on your budget. Its just not smart to stay on site when you can stay off site and only a 5 - 10 minute walk from Disneyland for a fraction of the cost. My favorite is best western pavillions. Its usually 80-90 $ and is very good quality feeling for the price. And some offer free shuttle service to the park also so you may not even need to walk! I stayed at the Sheraton(looks like a French castle) for 150$ and it had free shuttle service. Just find Disneyland on Google map and type hotel in the search bar and you'll see there are many affordable options for you!
Published: August 7, 2012 at 12:20 PMI have always LOVED EPCOT and no trip would have been complete without visiting that park. But on our last visit earlier this year, I found myself "tired" of EPCOT. I couldn't wait to get off of those boats in Mexico. It used to be my favorite attraction (the atmosphere of the marketplace, the restaurant and the "ride" all worked together). I totally agree the "ride" needed to be updated, but this Duck Three Caballeros mess destroyed whole experience. The ride has been "disneyfied"... it's a cartoon experience that belongs in the Magic Kingdom. Gone is the true visit to Mexico. I don't think I'm alone with this opinion-- there are NO lines. Nobody wants to ride it.
Likewise, I used to also LOVE going to Ellen's Energy Adventure. While I thought the message was a bit too political, I was always facinated by the way the whole attraction was put together... from the way the film clips were shown, to the show scenes and the way the ride vehicles moved. But again, it has become too "tired."
Everything in Epcot has become "tired" all at once.
Published: August 7, 2012 at 9:37 PMYour missing my point, I know there's a lot of places to stay right next to disney land for a fraction of the cost and I'm looking at a couple cause I am never going to pay that for a hotel room thats basically a lodge, wouldn't pay that for any room anyway. My point is the cost of staying, eating, and being disney is not what the man that created disney was all about. It's lost its magic for me. I'd rather spend it at universal or cedar point where my dollar goes farther than disney and at universal it exceeds many of the qualities that disney held for so many years. Cedar Point is adding elements and rides on a yearly basis and I've grown up with cedar all my life so it holds something special for me, why go to MK for some pretty average rides, pay more than 100 dollars for a day, eat subpar food for outlandish prices, and for most have to travel a long distance. Instead I have to go about 2 hours, stay in a pretty nice historic hotel for less than half what I would pay at an equal disney hotel, get into a park that is less than 50, has world class thrills, is named the best amusement park by golden ticket like 12 years in a row, and now has some good restaurants that won't put a hole in your wallet. I've been many times to Kings Island and is owned now by the same company and I've had similar experiences. This expansion that MK is doing is not nearly enough. Going back to Universal especially when they have the new potter rides is almost a must because that story invites all not just little kids that want castles. I am sorry to any Disney fans but the whole theming of the WWoHP is the best hands down, from the people dressed up in costume in the middle of summer and the chilled butter beer tasting like pure tasty deliciousness, not to mention the buildings and the the tasty meals at the three broomsticks. Thats what I want on vacation to have a total sensory overload and disney's falling short on value, theming, thrills, and good food for a reasonable price.
Published: August 10, 2012 at 11:13 PMHere are a few attraction ideas I have for EPCOT.
Japan Pavillion: Add a Studio Ghibli attraction. There are two options here that have crossed my mind. One, a retelling of the popular Spirited Away story. It would be fantastic. It could use a modern version of the hologram technology in the haunted mansion. And a race to escape the witch Yubaba would add good thrill to the ride. The second idea would be a tour of the famous landmarks and scenes from the world of Studio Ghibli. You would take the tour in the famous Catbus from My neighbor Totoro. The catbus would pass Totoro at the bus stop, howls moving castle, the castle in the sky, the demon monster and forest spirit from princess mononoke, etc. It would be a fantastic adventure unfamiliar to most American guests. It would also draw other world cultures to cone see their favorite characters from Ghibli films.
Norway: spruce up the maelstrom attraction. Change the entire attraction to a Viking mission in search of Avalon. Avalon was a mythical island the Norwegian believed to be a magical and perfect world. Of course the trolls will interfere and send you home. Other morsel creatures should make appearances as well such as the fairies. Ditch the oil rig at the end.
China: Add a Mulan musical show. It is a great Disney film that needs presence in the parks. Also, add a fireworks factory rollercoaster. You are waiting in line inside a fireworks factory. You take a tour to see how they are made. Well at the end of the tour, a fire breaks loose and fireworks start exploding everywhere. You launch out of the station ad race down the great wall of China. The ride would have some great special effects and thrills for the older crowd.
I've got more but need to save some for when I actually become an imagineer. ;)
Published: August 11, 2012 at 7:37 AMYes, of course! Proper criticism is used as trying to help the park become better. If you don't tell the manager in a restaurant about bad service or food, how do you expect it to get better?


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These data-driven images display the pulsating world of frequencies around us.
It may be visible to us only when our cell signals are poor, but our current era of rapid communication is fostered by a dense but invisible network of cell phone towers and their accompanying signals. Artist and researcher Nickolay Lamm, who writes for a website called MyVoucherCodes, sought to make this very important technology visible by displaying the wide, flat signal areas as colors that represent different frequencies. He varied the size of the honeycomb-sized grids depending on the number of cellphone users who typically pass through each area. The areas he has visualized include Chicago, Washington D.C., Los Angeles and New York, and it's interesting to see how differently the signal is distributed in each one.
Lamm, with the help of Dr. Danilo Erricolo, Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science, University of Illinois at Chicago, and Fran Harackiewicz, Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Southern Illinois University Carbondale, who teaches antenna theory and design, explains the images further:
The area within each sector antenna radiation pattern has different users being assigned different frequencies and their signals combine to form a single perceived color in that instant. Different channel combinations from sector to sector are indicated by different colors. The channel combinations shown are not static, but rather change rapidly in time as different users are assigned different channels. But, if you were to take a photo of these rapid changes, you'd likely see a wide array of colors as seen in the illustration.
Other collaborators on the images include Dr. Marlin H. Mickle from the Swanson School of Engineering, Dr. Pavel Nikitin from the University of Washington, Dr. Jung-Chih Chiao from The University of Texas at Arlington, and Dr. Dimitris E. Anagnostou from the South Dakota School of Mines and Technology. See below for the rest of the pictures:
Similar renderings by Lamm tackle topics such as Wi-Fi signal coverage, rising sea levels, political repression in North Korea, the "heat island effect" in urban areas, and even one charting obesity.
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My company's blog gets translated into Japanese, and when we launched
the blog I put a link to it in the site's navigation. A few weeks later
I noticed a lot of Windows computers displayed the navigation text as a
bunch of squares, which was annoying to say the least. I suppose it's
only natural that not all computers will have all languages and fonts,
but I preferred using text to an image.
I reasoned that most people interested in reading Japanese would have
the capability to do so, which meant I needed to conditionally display
English or Japanese based on the browser's capabilities. But how do you
detect whether or not the fonts display properly?
After researching the problem I found it's possible to detect font sizes
using half and full width katakana. When typing Japanese you can usually
select half or full width katakana: ア vs. ア. If a browser can't display
these properly, they'll be the same invalid character and therefore the
same size.
I wrote a function like this:
function japaneseFontsAvailable() {
var halfWidth = document.createElement('span');
var fullWidth = document.createElement('span');
document.body.insertBefore(halfWidth, document.body.firstChild);
document.body.insertBefore(fullWidth, document.body.firstChild);
var havejapanesefont = halfWidth.offsetWidth != fullWidth.offsetWidth;
return havejapanesefont;
I can't remember where I originally discovered this concept, but there's
a stackoverflow thread on the subject: Is it possible to detect East
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How often, how much, and what should my kitten be eating?
Hi! I'm new here. I've asked this question before, but it didn't link to my profile, so I figured I'd post it again to see if it works this time.
My kitten is 5 months old. We're currently feeding him one can of Fancy Feast Elegant Medleys (3 oz) and 1/2 cup of Purina Kitten Chow in the morning before we leave for work. When we come home, there is usually some dry food left, but we give him another half scoop. It's usually gone by morning.
I have read that Purina/Fancy Feast products are not the best choice for cats. I'd like to know how these products could hurt/hinder him, and what would be better, and why.
He is a strictly indoor cat. He is UTD on shots and worming, and he seems to be a healthy weight.
I've had cats in the past, but this little guy is special and I really want to do the best I can for him.
All answers appreciated!
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Welcome to Catster! My DH told me I couldn't have any more animals either. That was 2 cats and 1 dog ago! 8-) What to feed is a very hotly contested topic here. No doubt I'll be told I'm nuts which happened last time I answered a food question, but here goes. I feed my 2 dogs and 3 cats Purina One. At each vet trip, they all get high marks for general health, coat condition, etc. My vet sells Science Diet, but she tells me that Purina is fine considering the good shape my animals are in. Even the canned food you feed Sace should be kitten formula,though. I also free feed which will also draw negative comments from the masses here, but my cats are not overweight. Put the recommended amount in Sace's bowl each day and when that's gone, don't refill. For a definitive answer on what to feed, rely on your vet who knows Sace and his needs. Someone will undoubtely say "vets aren't nutritionists", but my vet knows LOT about animal nutrition and I rely on her advice.
Izadore (Izzie) answered on 11/2/09. Helpful? / 0
I have always fed my kittens as much as they wanted. I would stick with kitten food for the first year. Canned food is best for your little guy. A website you may want to check out is: catinfo.org
Good luck!
♥ Tasha ♥ answered on 11/2/09. Helpful? / 0
Yeah drop the purina cat chow! it's better suited for chicken feed then cat food to be honest. Fancy feast is good. I wouldn't feed elegant medeleys, since it's more expensive AND not as good. go with the gourmet chicken feast,gourmet,salmon feast,and gourmet oceanfish feast as those have under 15% carbohydrates and no grain. and she's a kitten so do this now when she's open to try new stuff, raw meat(no ground) twice a week is a great supplement.
Go with two 3 oz cans a day and when she grows up go to one can. and if your going to have a raw meat day, do 3 ounces.
Sprinkles answered on 11/2/09. Helpful? / 0
Meowmy won't really go into what to feed because there is much debate about that here. Meowmy feeds me one full cup of dry food each day and about a quarter can of wet in the morning and evening. I eat Evo, Orijen, Before Grain and Core dry foods. Meowmy just mixes all the dry food in a big plastic container and I get a little of each brand with every scoop. I eat Evo, Felidae and Wellness wet food.
If I want more wet food in the evening before bed, I get another quarter can. Meowmy was told by the vet to feed as much as I want since I am still a growing maine coon kitten (5 months old). The vet says I am in perfect condition. Weight, coat, eyes and teeth look great. At about 8 months, meowmy will be more strict and only give me wet food 2x per day with dry food left out all the time. We'll slowly switch to adult food a few weeks before my 1st birthday.
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Guanidinium 2-carboxy-6-nitrobenzoate monohydrate: A two-dimensional hydrogen-bonded network structure
Smith, Graham, Wermuth, Urs D., & White, Jonathan M. (2007) Guanidinium 2-carboxy-6-nitrobenzoate monohydrate: A two-dimensional hydrogen-bonded network structure. Acta Crystallographica. Section E: Structure Reports Online, E63(8), o3527-o3528.
In the structure of the title compound, CH6N3+ . C8H4NO6- . H2O, obtained from the reaction of guanidine carbonate with 3-nitrophthalic acid, the 2-carboxylic acid group is deprotonated and participates in an asymmetric cyclic R2/1(6) hydrogen-bonding associatiuon with the guanidine cation together with a bridging water molecule of solvation. A conjoint R2/1(7) facial association involving a nitro O-atom acceptor together with a further five guanidinium N-H...O hydrogen bonds, as well as a strong carboxyl-water interaction [2.528(3) Ang.], give a two-dimensiional network structure.
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– Off-season: The upcoming year's guarantee amount counts against the current season's cap and all remaining years' guarantee amounts count against the subsequent season's cap. Example: If a player signs a 4-year, $50M contract ($11M-2017, $12M-2018, $13M-2019, $14M-2020) in August 2017, and is cut during the 2017-18 off-season (after the conclusion of the 2017 season but before Free Agency 2018) the 2018 guarantee amount ($6MM) counts against the 2018 Cap and the remaining guarantee amounts of $13.5M (50% of future years: $6.5M-2019, $7M-2020) accelerates against the 2019 Cap, thus limiting the amount the owner can spend in Free Agency in 2019. Note that once the off-season is over (a date that is customizable for each league but always ends 3 days before a league's Free Agency Auction), if a player is cut, the salary cap acceleration will again follow the in-season rules detailed above.
3. Waivers: If a player is waived, he is placed on waivers for a designated period (1 day standard). During this time, all of the other league owners have the opportunity to place a waiver claim on that player and the associated contract. If the player is assigned to a new team via waivers, the acquiring team becomes responsible for the remainder of the player's contract (including guarantees), and the team that placed the player on waivers receives no additional cap charge beyond games for which the player has already played. The waiver order is determined based on league standings just like in the NFL, with the team having the worst record getting first priority on the waiver list.
4. Free Agents: The process of acquiring Free Agents depends on a variety of factors, and the process is described in more detail below:
– Players Who Clear Waivers: If a player clears waivers he becomes a Free Agent, and the team that released the player is bound by the Salary Cap acceleration rules explained above. The player is a Free Agent for a designated period (1 day standard) and is subject to 1-year blind offers made by any owners (all in-season contracts are NON-guaranteed). The player will sign with the team that offers the most valuable contract. If no offers are made within the designated period, then the player will sign any $500,000 minimum offer made by any team in the subsequent days.
– In-Season Free Agency: Each week during the NFL season, players that are Free Agents are subject to blind offers from team owners for a desingated period (1 day (Tuesday) standard). The player will sign with the team that offers the player the most valuable contract, and if no offers are made within the designated period, then the player will sign any $500,000 minimum offer made by any team in the subsequent days of the week (i.e. these players are first come first serve). Once the NFL games commence, players will lock and cannot be signed again until the following week.
– Pre-Season Free Agency: During the period between the Free Agency Auction and the start of the NFL season, all Free Agent players (i.e. players that were not acquired through either the Rookie Draft or Free Agency Auction) are subject to blind offers from team owners each day (unless the commissioner chooses a longer designated period). After an initial bid is placed on a Free Agent, he will sign with the team who has placed the highest contract offer for him after 24 hours (time based on your FA Wait period league setting) have passed. Please note that during this period before the NFL season commences, Free Agent players are never first come first serve.
5. Trades: Reality Sports Online facilitates trades for players, and trades for draft picks up to two (2) years in advance. For example, teams will have the ability to trade a current player for a draft pick in a future year's Rookie Draft. Any teams involved in trades are responsible for the remaining value of the contracts of the players or picks they acquire, and are absolved of responsibility for the remaining value of the contracts of the players or picks they trade.
6. Franchise Tag: Each team has the ability to use one franchise tag each off-season on a player from its own team whose contract has expired. The exclusive franchise tag is calculated the same way the exclusive franchise tag is calculated in real life, the greater of (a) the average of the 5 highest paid players at a given position, which is unique to each league, or (b) 120% of the player's previous year salary. Players can be franchised in two consecutive seasons, but may not be franchised a third consecutive season.
7. Injured Reserve: Commissioners can decide how many injured reserved ("IR") spots are allowed per team. Unlike other fantasy leagues where players can only be put on IR if they are actually injured in real life, RSO teams can place any player on IR whenever they want provided they have not already used their allotted IR spots. However, when a player is placed on IR, he must remain there for the entire season. When a player is placed on IR, the team will only owe him 50% of his remaining contract for the year, thus allowing him to use the extra money to sign other free agents to replace the player placed on IR. If leagues want to implement IR-DFR, they can do so by allowing the Commissioner of the league to utilize his Commish Tools to remove a player off of IR.
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When a player retires in the NFL, the NFL treats it the same way regardless of the reason. On the RSO Platform, there is no "Reserve/Retired" designation. It's a bit tricky, because the player pool feed doesn't delineate between a "Free Agent" — aka somebody who is just out of the league and refuses to actually retire (e.g. Terrell Owens) — and a player who is actually officially retired (e.g. Brett Favre). Individual leagues can choose to handle retired players how they wish — the contract can continue to be an obligation, or the Commissioner can remove the player's contract using the Edit Contract tool if that is how the league treats retirement. We would strongly recommend making sure the player is "Retired" (i.e. filed his NFL retirement papers) before you allow an Owner to get out of his contract obligations. So, in the case of a player retiring due to a career ending injury or due to old age, we would allow the team to get out of this obligation for future years, which you would accomplish by dropping the player using the Edit Contracts Commish Tool. Then, that team would have freed up all that cap space to replace that player during the Free Agency Auction or through blind bidding during the season. However, if the player doesn't officially retire and is simply out of the league, we would recommend not allowing that team to be relieved of the player's contractual obligations.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:31 pm
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Trade Rod Gardner for browns #67
Trade #9 for saints #16,#40,#193
With #16 take Troy Williamson
With #40 take Heath Miller hope he is still there
with #67 take Justin Tuck also hope he is still there
with our 3rd rounder take a CB ILB or something
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TrueRedskin05 Heath Miller will not be there, even with his injury he will not fall to the 40 spot. And how r you goin to take your info from RoyDrilliams? Also i think the redskins should trade down to take Fabian Washington
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This is a little off the subject, but I'm really starting to wonder if we're going to get a 1st day pick for Gardner.
I liked the players that you picked, I just don't think that Miller and Tuck will be there that late.
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I don't think anyone is seriously considering a 3rd rounder unless gardner is willing to agree on a contract extension. Nobody wants to part with a 3rd rounder for a 1 year player.
I like th players you neamed too but we troy is like santana and you can really only have so many speedsters before getting a big red zone threat. I know heath miller fills that void but we wont get him at 40, he will most certainly be gone.
I love the idea of trading down once or even twice and still pick up Fabian Washington. His speed would be a godsend to Greg Williams. Imagine 4.25 speed blitzing the blind side???? I love the possibilities
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I don't think the Redskins are going to trade down unless both Antrel Rolle and Shawne Merriman are drafted in the top 8, which could very well happen. If they do trade down... Fabian Washington would be a great addition to the team.
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Why is everyone here so high on Fabian Washington? I prefer Justin Miller, Carlos Rogers and probably Corey Webster and Marlin Jackson. Washington, with all his speed is lumped with Green, Browner, McFadden and Stanley Wilson due to his lack of strength, inability to tackle a sock puppet or stop Twiggy on a running play.
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I'm no big Fabian Washington fan, but a lack of strength or power is really not something I would associate with him. If you ever read Pat Kirwan's breakdown of workout results in terms of power and explosiveness, you will find that Washington is second amongst CBs to only McFadden. He lifted 225 lbs. 18 times, which is fairly impressive for a corner. It happens to be 6 more than everyone's favorite S/OLB prospect Thomas Davis and actually only one less than the consensus #1 OT Alex Barron. Not saying he's as powerful as those guys, but just making a point.
He needs work on his technique, both tackling and coverage, but he is physically one of the best corners in the draft. I wouldn't take him, but someone will fairly early, and he might pan out very well.
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I would be very happy if the Redskins traded down and picked up a second round pick to get Fabain Washington, i dont think the Redskins need a new starting CB before the start of the season because we have Harris. So Washington could share time with Harris till he perfects his technique and replace him by the end the year.
Everyone's so high on him because his blazing 40 time and like E said he did 18 reps of 225, so anyone with that impressive of a work out is gonna get a lot of attention
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What I would love to see more is Derrick Johnson dropping to us, and the Chiefs moving up to get him. Of course, if they trade for Surtain, they likely won't have a 2nd round pick anymore, so that would kill this idea. However, if they
trade for Surtain we might be able to move behind them to the Saints and still get my number one target if we trade down, Carlos Rogers. We could then get our 2nd round pick back, probably to take Justin Tuck if he is still there. I'm really not in love with any of the WRs rated in the early 2nd round range. Of course this all hinges on DJ still being available when we pick, but I think he will be.
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the chiefs will trade for surtain so i dont think they will have the second round pick, but i love the saints idea
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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by coynejeremy, Jul 2, 2009.
I repeat... Oh yeah. Makes the Pistons instant contendors.
like it. Too bad the NBA isn't RealGM and this probably won't ever happen; still, JoeD should have added Boozer, but as far as I remember, that deal wouldn't have made any sense salary- wise. Still, one season with Boozer instead of RIP would be one chance to win it all. With RIP, we'll make the playoffs and probably will be out the first round. With Boozer and CV up front, combined with the other bigs (Wilcox and Kwame) we're, as you said, instand contenders. I'd love to see us Boozer, I already wanted it when I first heard the rumour in summer.
The best thing about it would be that we could reverse Joe's screw-up... which is the long-term Rip contract that he inked the day of the Billups dump... before making Rip redundant by paying slightly above market for a 6th man of the year type guy. Having Boozer's expiring would then allow us to strike out in the big FA sweepstakes next summer. Also, bringing in Boozer's terrible attitude would help replace Sheed's presence. The only problem is that we really wouldn't be contenders then either, but we would have a 10% chance of getting back to the ECF, where we would be crushed miserably. (Sorry, I didn't get much sleep last night)
So, in the end, we'd be giving up Rip for Capp Spayce and Battier? We'll end up renting yet another big that can't play defense for a year. I've watched every Utah playoff game since Memo was traded there, and Boozer has consistently failed in the playoffs. All of the manhandling of weak teams during the regular season doesn't mean jack feces when you fizzle out in the playoffs like that. Besides, if Boozer can't be successful in the playoffs with a PG like Williams and a coach like Sloan, I doubt it'll happen with Stuckey & Kuester. That said, I'm not totally against this trade. I'd do it for the following reason:We get an expiring contract, so we'll be in the exciting 2010 FA market which, even though will disappoint everyone, will generate countless posts of PF fun. Think about all the OMG Joe is a friggin idiot threads that'll start once Boozer bolts for someplace else, cap falls, we can't sign anyone of significance and end up giving David Lee a 5 year $65M deal.Thanks, but no thanks.
Boozer for rip..So what will happen for CV? who will be our starting PF? I just hope that Mr Davidson can rise up from his grave and kick the hell out of JOE!!!after the 2003 season he never done anything he was stuck..with rip.sheed,tay,CB...well those peeps are great keepn the core group is great no question but how about signing people or free agents to back up the original core?what he signed C WEBB/evans/murray/drafting a ballet dancer amir!!!haaha then letting go of afflalo!!!..wheres the planning JOE!!!stop scratching your balls do soemthing for real!!!!
IMO Charlie (while I really like him and his game) is not a starting PF, he's better suited as a Super-Sub hybrid forward.
have you ever heard of salary cap or lux tax? Mr davidson did not like to cross those lines... Also have you ever heard that players actually want minutes? starting 5 ate approximately 80% of minutes so there were not much left for better players... Have you ever heard that late first round drafting team finds gems constantly? chances are actually small...very,very small.... JoeD had two choices: break the core or stick with it. As soon as JoeD finally broke the core team has dropped....still does...
Looks like you spilled hot chocolate on your (!) key.
Good One... those sticky keys can sure make ya look goofy I went over a year with a sticky "D" [insert jokes here]... then I found out it only cost $30 for a replacement.. doah
Yes I've heard about salary CAP its understandable you have to let go of peeps!!BUt you know what? do you agree that JOE d had done nothing for flexibility and planning? What Drafting DARCO instaed of perhaps getting a bosh or even a D wade Melo? Do you still rememebr that? Or there was stil no cable in estonia back then?
rax was merely pointing out the constraints that Joe has had to work through over his tenure as the GM. This doesn't mean that he supports every decision Joe makes, or he doesn't see Joe's mistakes. He has chosen to move on and not to brew over something that happened years ago. I think that is a healthy outlook on life. Your questionable perception of the history of cable service in Estonia is quite irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Actually, there might not have been cable in Estonia back then. They have the best wireless network service in the world.
considering all that's happening, are we closer to seeing what many of us were seeing when we saw what we saw? Rip, Tay, and Max for Boozer and AK47. Utah puts Milsap in the starter spot and Max is off the bench. You pair a very good point guard with the best catch and shoot guy and add a defensive stopper to replace the, no longer the focus, defensive stopper. Detroit puts Boozer in the starter spot (we now have post play) and a more aggressive SF to play in a SF conference. We save a ton of cap space. We officially close the door on what was and focus on what we're gonna be. Start: Stuckey, Gordon, AK, Boozer, and Ben. We'll need a 2 Guard to fill the hole.
Utah got torched by Dirk last night. Perhaps all the Jazz need is Walter Herrmann.
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Say the power source comes in to the left switch. You would run the two travelers and the neutral to the first light (3). Then the two travelers, the neutral, and the switched hot to the next fixture (4). Same for the next fixture. From the last fixture to the right switch, two travelers and the switched hot (3). Plus the ground wire of course through all.
Won't work. You need four wire cable between the lights. Where does the power come in?
The diagram you presented should be avoided as it requires 4 wires between the lights plus the equipment ground. Your diagram requires a switched hot at each light, in order to do that at all the lights you will need a switched hot, two travelers and a neutral....4 wires. This is very unconventional and would require two 14/2 G between the lights. I don't have time to draw the diagram but here is one that shows the principle...you just have one more light involved. My opinion is if you trying to save wire or want convenience.. throw that out the window and wire the cans in a more conventional manner.
EDIT: I see Joe has already made the same point but I'll leave this diagram for reference rather than delete.
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Thank you all very much, this should be plenty of info to complete the job.
I forgot to point out that the travelers would not have to actually pass through the fixtures. Unless in conduit. They would simply run from one switch to the other.
I can't draw nifty pictures, but here is how to actually wire this. Your power comes into one switch. 14-2 with ground, hot black, neutral white, and ground. Then run a 14-3 to the other switch, 2 travelers black & red, a neutral white, and a ground. From the second switch to the 1st light, 14-2 switched black, neutral white, and ground. And more 14-2 between the lights. Connect the whites together and connect the grounds together. The blacks and the red connects to the switches. The black hot coming in and the switched black going to the lights are connected to the common screws on the switches.
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