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This is a discussion on Boston Police State Failed - George Donnelly within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Very interesting article regarding the tactics used by law enforcement during the search for Tsarnaev in Boston last week. Boston Tried a Police State and ...
Very interesting article regarding the tactics used by law enforcement during the search for Tsarnaev in Boston last week.
Boston Tried a Police State and it Failed | George Donnelly - Arm your Mind for Liberty
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Everybody has an opinion, whether it's full of baloney or not.
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Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid... Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth
Part of me wanted this KID caught to be sent to some dark damp cellar in Eastern Europe for Water Boarding. But the rest of me was just so irritated. Between the scenes coming out of Watertown, MA and those from Katrina in NOLA that had police agencies just rounding up weapons on the spot. it is a clear deterioration of our rights. I want to send a letter/email to ALL my reps in the state of Texas. I want them on record from the state house and senate, not only promising but SWEARING TO G-D, that this will not happen here. I have spoken to a few people in Texas, i don't know if it is just bravado, but some will defend their homes against any invasion, whether they wear a badge or not.
I want our Public officials on record about this.
They went in, searched for the suspect, and left. Haven't heard any reports of anyone arrested because they left a joint in the ashtray and the cops saw it, no reports of any weapons being seized, haven't heard of any issues with the search at all except from those with their panties in a wad and weren't there. My thought is the neighborhood was glad to have the scumbag out of there and life return back to normal.
But hey, next time you need the cops at your place in a hurry, don't get upset when they say, "We'll be there to help you as soon as we can get a warrant."
Life ain't always fair--get over it.
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He made an interesting point that only after the house confinement was lifted and citizens were allowed out did "a citizen" find the suspect. All the paramilitary police didn't but an alert and aware citizen did. Something to think about.
In many ways I have to agree with the author's thoughts.
I too don't understand all the over-the-top praise for the police/FBI.
Now I'm not saying that they were in anyway incompetent. They weren't.
But I didn't see a lot of evidence of super effective tactics.
In both confrontations it is was a cilivian who provided them with the critical intel.
And in the shootout with the pair...these two self-trained brothers gave as much as they got.
Suspending our Constitutional rights as easily as the authorities should give us all pause.
And it does give us a glimpse into why so many politicians are trying to outlaw ARs.
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I agree with the article for the most part, I was actually quite disappointed at how Boston turned into a police state for nearly 24 hours.
I know some will say, "well it's for everyone's safety." But really, is it? What good did it accomplish? He was caught outside the perimeter, and by a civilian who noticed him after people were let back out of their homes. Our little parade of SWAT/military did little to nothing to alleviate the situation but rather infringed tons of innocents' rights. Perhaps in a more extreme situation (say something similar to the European bombings and air strikes of WWII), I could maybe understand the need but this was all for a single 19-year old kid.
Yes, he was dangerous and yes he potentially had bombs. I know it sounds scary, but we can't let fear rule our lives otherwise what's the point of living? We all carry for the same reasons, to protect ourselves and our families. We know that the day may come where we might have to use our weapon against threats like this one. We carry so that we don't have to live in fear and cower defenselessly. I'm not saying those carrying should have joined the manhunt, but just go about your business with your SA on high-alert. Sure, maybe you can keep the kids home, but to shut down the entire city is another matter all together.
Giving up our liberties for "safety" is really not worth it and our founding fathers would all agree. Yes, I do think that in some very extreme cases, it's understandable that we'd give up things like the Fourth Amendment, but this not one of them.
EDIT: The more I think about it, the more I felt like it was a ******* match between law enforcement and the suspects. It had little to do about actual citizen safety and more about, "getting revenge on a cop killer by cops and the government, using every means necessary." I couldn't help but notice the parallels with the Dorner situation in how it escalated so quickly. Dorner allegedly killed a couple of cops and got a $1 million bounty overnight. With Big Bear on high-alert, the numerous checkpoints and lawlessly shooting at random innocents whose cars were not even close in description was "an unfortunate misunderstanding." It's just ridiculous what happens (and is let to happen without consequences) in these situations. Again, in the Dorner scenario, it was a citizen that escaped hostage and gave away his position, not the numerous officers and paramilitary teams conducting search.
They did all this *without* any of the following:
1) any information indicating the suspect was inside, or
2) any information indicating that any person present had broken the law, or
3) a warrant (which they couldn't have gotten without either of the above).
They violated the civil rights of dozens (maybe hundreds) of people, and you're not only excusing it, you're suggesting that having the temerity to *object* to those actions should result in losing the limited, after the fact, protection offered by having the police in the first place?
Wow. Another police state/police bashing thread. This is what, number five or six now?
I'll set this one out.
By the way, Sean Collier's funeral was today.
-PEF, Refugee from the Island of Misfit Toys
I fail to see where anyone's rights were trampled that day, we also must remember that things are different in the city; city folk call 911, out in the country, we are 911.
John Luttrell
The system worked...
...citizen support and LEOs working within the law of the land solved the problem...no surprise to some of us...
There are some interesting points brought out in this article........
"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation."
--Thomas B. Reed, American Attorney
Second Amendment -- Established December 15, 1791 and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."
Complete system failure!
That about sums it up.
I don't know if I would call it "citizen support" as much as it was "citizen coercion." Nobody appreciates being ripped out of their own homes, at gunpoint, to be searched while even more guns are pointed at them. That is exactly what happened, no warrant, and in many cases no reasonable suspicion. While any one of those citizens would have the right to decline the search, would it be wise for them? Even the most staunch defenders of the Constitution wouldn't dare, and that is why I say it is coercion. Of course none of those people were trying to harbor the suspects, there was no malice, but also no real choice.
What scares me about this event is what kind of precedent does this set for the rest of the country. Are we being slowly but surely conditioned to accept this behavior from our government? TSA in the airports is disgusting enough, I can't imagine these events expanding their reach. I have no problem with law enforcement doing their job and undoubtedly citizens do help (and one did to capture the last suspect), but there is also the rights of the people and it's a dangerous game once we start stepping on them.
Basically, Boston looked like the furthest thing from America on that day and that scares me.


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GREENVILLE — The holidays will be a little brighter this year thanks to efforts of several area businesses which took part in the Montcalm Challenge Food Drive.
According to organizer Stephen Foster, the annual "food drop" was started in 1991 by Federal-Mogul and R.J. Tower Company as a friendly challenge to see which company could raise the most food items, per employee, for area food pantries.
"They had been doing things on their own, but decided to challenge each other," Foster said. "The loser had to buy doughnuts."
Over the years the program gathered steam. Greenville Tool and Die and Stafford Media Solutions came on board in 1993 with other businesses becoming involved at later dates.
The stress these days isn't so much about obtaining the most food donations, but rather gathering the food items most needed by the 18 local food pantries served by the effort.
"The emphasis is more on raising money," Foster said. "The reason for that is we now have sources like Jim Cole, who buy things for us wholesale and finds the kinds of food these pantries really need."
On Wednesday, representatives from all 18 local pantries gathered at the old Meijer store on Lafayette Street to collect more than 22,000 food items that were collected by the effort.
"Regardless of the size of the pantry, they all get the same things today," Foster said. "Also, Meijer stores have been particularly generous this year and each pantry will be getting a $200 gift card to Meijer to use for the purchase of food."
In addition to all the food distributed on Wednesday, the Montcalm Challenge Food Drive has raised an additional $30,000, which will be used for another three food drops in 2013.
"We'll probably do one in March, one in June and then another one in September," Foster said. The exact dates of future food drops will be determined later, based upon the needs of the various pantries.
"We wish we could provide all the needs of the pantries," Foster said. "Sadly, we're not even close to that. We fall far short of that, but with the kind of numbers we do generate, we manage to make a pretty big impact."
Foster added that the number of needy in the area seems to increase each year and despite the efforts of groups like Montcalm Challenge and many area churches, some pantries have been in danger of closing because they are running out of food.
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"The need is unbelievable right now. The unfortunate thing is, we have not received a lot of our funding, both from the state and federal government. It's hard to turn people away. Thank God we have all these pantries that do help the people in their areas."
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Some good news and bad news for the airlines in the latest edition of the respected American Customer Satisfaction Index. U.S. carriers are improving, say passengers, with an overall score 3% better than 2012's ranking. Now if only they could catch up with McDonald's.
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Unfortunately, airlines still registered a ranking of just 69 out of 100, which put the industry well below satisfaction levels for Domino's Pizza, McDonald's, Taco Bell or even the U.S. Postal Service, health insurance and cell phone service. In fact, airlines as a whole ranked below every other industry with two exceptions: Cable or subscription TV and internet service. It tied for satisfaction levels with social media.
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The 10 cities.. I have kept it open. The resolution says "10 cities in Europe that I have never been to". I will keep you updated on the progress here. ;)Delete
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Dubai is a place i planned since time long and cudnt really make out to go.!ReplyDeleteReplies
Be prepared for the traffic nightmare there. So plan your travel inside Dubai carefully in case you are driving. This is the feedback from the residents.Delete
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According to some [slashdot.org] sites [searchbistro.com],
It's one of the best kept secrets of Google. It's a mystery on Webmasterworld. Also in Europe (France) they don't know what to expect from that odd URL [eval.google.com....] Click it and you get ...nothing. The site reveals itself only if you have the proper login and if you use a network known by Google. Residues of Eval.google are found on the web, but the full content of the mystery site has never been published before. Here it is: the real story about Eval.Google. They use... humans!
The site claims it is some kind of the secret google evaluation lab!
that made it sound like people were reaching in via this console to tweak results directly, which just isn't true at all.
If I understand GG correctly - what he's saying here is that the ratings aren't used directly to drop sites from the index, just to provide data on human evaluations with which to tune the algo.
That makes perfect sense - and I genuinely don't doubt GG for a moment.
I'm a bit confused about the term "whitelist" in the document though. I guess this could simply mean - "here's an example of a site which humans like" - and the site then takes it's chances in the algo tweaking like any other.
But the term "whitelist" SEEMS to imply "hands off this (human evaluated) site". ie manually exempting it from any "anti spam" penalties in the algo tweak.
Of course since this document was never intended for public release, it's likely nobody ever went through it checking that none of the words implied anything incorrect(!).
Still - given that I understand from GGs statement above that sites are not being penalised manually in this process, it would be interesting to know if "whitelisted" in this context is a hint to the algo tuners, or an exemption from spam penalty.
Please reread my entry. Debbie Frost is not a student, but Google's official spokeswoman.
I stand corrected! :)
... it would be interesting to know if "whitelisted" in this context is a hint to the algo tuners, or an exemption from spam penalty.
If you read the paper on Combating Web Spam with Trust Rank (link provided in post number 26) you may get a better understanding. Its worth the read!
* If you decide to evaluate one single URL, you should evaluate all URL's. There's no way back once you started.
* I'm worried about whitelists. Google should check the sites over and over again to be sure that the whitelisted sites still meet the criteria. But they don't check them over and over again...
* The international agents a.k.a. students proved their value. Rater Hub Google is active for years - years in which Google grew to great heights.
* Evaluation of search results is quite normal, but Google takes it too great heights. The company shows a deep concern for the best search results.
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Can you give me a few examples of hand edited sites (by Google)?
If you search this thread harder you will most likely find one.
No these student are not actually editing SERPS as GG says - but their evaluation DOES have a direct result on the SERPS - the fact that it is not them who are actually pushing the buttons is irrelavent in my opinion.
added: GG answered a question i posted about Spam removal in the "questions for GG thread" - basically that it was being hit a lot faster these days - i think we now know why!
[edited by: UK_Web_Guy at 11:26 am (utc) on June 6, 2005]
From the documents it's quite clear that the raters are given real past query results to evaluate and that those results are rated by groups of people. If the raters don't agree, they're evaluated again and discussed. It's not quite sure how exactly Google uses those ratings, but hey, does that matter much? As long as they are used to improve search results.. Any other search engine will have this kind of quality control, only the implementation may be different.
I must say I'm quite impressed by the way the documents urge the raters how to distinguish between usefull and non usefull pages and how to detect spam/nospam, e.g. sneaky and non sneaky redirects. (For the spam detection part it may have been updated and expanded by now with other techniques, but the intention is probably still the same).
The guidelines are very well in line with the SEO mantra: provide unique content. So I think I like those guidelines :)
If you decide to evaluate one single URL, you should evaluate all URL's.
Under the heading of "Bad" you made the above statement. That in and of itself is a value judgement. Perhaps its not included in your postings on your site, but it isn't difficult to guess what side of the fence you sit on in regards to the rating system.
You further state:
I'm worried about whitelists. Google should check the sites over and over again to be sure that the whitelisted sites still meet the criteria. But they don't check them over and over again...
How on earth would you know they don't check white listed sites over and over again? Are you a Google staff member involved with this programme? Do you know someone who is and who is sharing this information with you?
Under the heading "Good" you said,
Evaluation of search results is quite normal, but Google takes it too great heights.
Does that mean they take it too far in your opinion?
You know, nobody seems to be paying too much attention to "Trust Rank" in the grand scheme of Google's algorythms, filters, etc.
How would anyone know if Google hasn't already created several of their own seed sites (created by Google employees using Google's guidelines) by which to gauge all white listed or "trusted" sites?
If I were Google, that's exactly what I would do! I'd build several sites in several competitive markets and donate them to various charities to operate. However, any and all changes would have to be done by Google employees to ensure their continued adherance to Google's guidelines. Its a sure fire way to know what standards are considered 100% on the up and up.
Think about it. Google builds an acceptable affiliate site, marketing "whatever" and using what they consider to be acceptable SEO techniques. They then approach some charity to monitor and process orders, sell and ship the goods and collect the profits. But Google controls the site at all times.
Now multiply that effort by a set of several sites in various niche markets. To me, this would guarantee an excellent base by which to evaluate other sites ... while "doing no harm".
Obviously, I am not saying Google has done this or has even considered doing anything like it ... but there is nothing preventing them from doing so and to be honest, I would if I were in in their shoes.
I think I've seen some of those on several Dutch websites last week...
I'd disagree - this is big news as far as I'm concerned.
I don't see how this can be big news or why it's in the news now as it's been around for ages. Last UPDATE of one of those documents is 31 December 2003. That's 18 months ago.
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do you want to trust your livelyhood to a college kid who might have a bias, or be in a bad mood? What if he /she clicks on th ewrong checkbox?
as far as I understand this (after GG explained it):
this is not to penalize site A or B. It is to test the serps if they're better or worse after updates. The .doc file is to guide students during that procces. Example: if you search for "widget" and a thin affiliate or a spam site comes up first, the search results aren't that good.
Am I missing something?
On edit: I think Google is not happy because they have gone out of their way to say that results are automated, we fight spam via the algo, etc. etc. I was looking at the sites mentioned there with hidden text (one still has it); they're still on the index. I wonder if "bad" sites they're just buried in the serps, instead of banned. This could explain a lot of MIA sites
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That is exactly what the majority of fellow members have been asking for. Choose any relevant thread of these forums, and you shall read post after post of members complaining why Google doesn't do enough about spam sites and scrapers which occupy the top of serps in their niches.
Those spam sites are the real ENEMY #1 for any decent whitehat- and AdSense publisher. And thank you Google and Google�s folk for doing something about it!
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I agree. I was talking about, a one time thing. One student from (insert country here) being judge, jury, and the executiour.
Plenty of people complain of DMOZ mods nuking their competitor's sites. With Google it would be worse. If they choose to just bury your site instead of banning it, there's no way to tell what happened, or who to appeal to.
I agree. I was talking about, a one time thing. One student from (insert country here) being judge, jury, and the executiour.
My take on it is that there are several raters all rating the same pages. I don't think what you are describing could or is likely to happen.
I found some of your comments on this post especially interesting. :)
Whoisgregg, that's Dutch satire [google.com]
Won't try again to be funny. Not my style.
Let's go back to the content. Check the discussions on Search Engine Watch or many other professional SE-boards. Google Guy, do you really think it's irrelevant to talk about Google's Human Quality Evaluation?
It's an interesting topic, but quite frankly I would have been surprised and disappointed if Google didn't have several layers of quality control in place.
Let's go along with your reasoning. If you say agents don't have any influence on the index, I have a question for you. Why pay them for something if it has no effect om the index? Must be charity then.
You're playing that "reporter" semantics game here. GoogleGuy mentioned this:
reaching in via this console to tweak results directly, which just isn't true at all.
Even I can influence results when I send in a spam report and Google doesn't even pay me. Just because I send in a report doesn't mean Google has to agree or change anything. I didn't see any information in your "story" about what Google does with this information. I can think of lots of ways they could use the information without tweaking the results directly.
You've created a "buzz," enjoy it while it lasts. My prediction - 14 minutes of fame.
Now multiply that effort by a set of several sites in various niche markets. To me, this would guarantee an excellent base by which to evaluate other sites ... while "doing no harm".
Yes, but IMO the problem is that the sites they say are "good sites" sometimes aren't any different than the sites they say are bad.
Take redirects. Does anyone honestly see a difference between the "sneaky redirects" and the "legitimate" ones? What kind of signal does that give to webmasters?
There you have a point :)
Perhaps I should rephrase my surprise to "I don't understand why everybody is suddenly screaming Human Intervention". I also don't see how people can contribute recent rank losses to this piece of information.
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If such a system exists the next deep throat that unveils such a evil system that even black hats wouldn't do. I mean its a honour among thieves issue. Now whether the thieves are google the students or a text link broker site the owners should all be displayed in public and paraded around on a stick. BTW how's goog doing on nasdaq... checks... hmmmm
You've created a "buzz," enjoy it while it lasts. My prediction - 14 minutes of fame
I'm from Europe. I don't long for fame. I'm a busy reporter with a hobby (search engines). You can sue me for that.
Let me explain how and why I blogged some details about 'Rater Hub Google'. A student showed it to me months ago. Only last month another international agent was prepared to send me some material. Most information was from 2004 but considered still valid (according to three other agents that contacted me <snip>.
The published insights are not that spectacular. But insight in Google's evaluation of websources is rare. I wanted to forward the details to the web community to get some discussion. Why?
People should know how a search engine works. Basically, it's a stupid thing. Intellect has to come from the user. If he/she doesn't ask a smart question, he/she gets a stupid answer. If you really want to have adequate answers, there's no way of escaping advanced syntaxes. Most people don't use inurl: allintitle or site: or numrange or whatever. They don't filter the answers of Google with advanced searching.
For most users, Google's algorithm decides the order of the answers - helped by some input of the Rater Hub. I think it has purpose to publish how the raters think, how they refine queries and what is considered as spam and what not (whitelist). You can evaluate your answers better if you know f.e. that Kelkoo is on Google's whitelist and is considered as an important site.
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what's up with the anger towards this guy? He found something interesting and reported it. I could see why google is mad at him, but face it, it's a great find /story and most tech reporters would've loved to have reported it first. We simply don't know the role that these raters truly play in the SERPS. No offense to anyone, but Google will try to minimize their role, it's on their self-interest--no matter what the truth is. If I worked for Google I would the same, no questions asked. On the other hand, maybe they truly play a minimal role, we just have to keep an open mind on this.
14 minutes of fame, it's about 14 more than most of us anyway. ;)
People should know how a search engine works.
I understand what you are saying. By understanding how the engine works, they can get better results. But most users want the engine to do that thinking for them - as lazy as it sounds.
14 minutes of fame, it's about 14 more than most of us anyway. ;)
Agree, 14 minutes more than me...
Don't get me wrong, voelspriet is merely taking advantage of the interest in Google. Good for him. I'm only predicting that the interest is short lived because the buzz is around the webmaster community - which is easily distracted.
I consider myself a fairly objective person. I do take exception to voelspriet's post twisting GoogleGuy's words around. (And I don't beleive in kissing up to GG, I just call 'em as I see 'em.)
what's up with the anger towards this guy?
I think you're misinterpreting as anger, what some people consider to be "old news". Some of us just don't see what the big deal is all about!
Sure, Mr. Ess found something which most of us aren't privy too ... but then again, we aren't supposed to be privy to it. According to Google Guy, the page is protected and marked "Google Proprietary and Confidential". Further, the student who revealed this info has seemingly (according to Google Guy) broken a non-disclosure agreement he or she had with Google when they signed on.
I'm not angry at Mr. Hess and I doubt anyone (other than those who work for or hold shares in Google) is angry either. I just think its much ado about nothing new!
Exactly what has Mr. Ess revealed that many of us didn't know about in the first place? Without getting into the specifics of the form, (which we were never supposed to see in the first place) ... he has not enlightened us any further about anything.
In post number 26, you will find a link to Google's "Quality Raters" job opportunities listing and also a link to the Trust Rank article which was written on March 1, 2004 and has been the subject of many discussions here on WebmasterWorld and other forums over the past few months.
I see nothing new in his blog representing value to anyone ... except perhaps a handful of lawyers! ;)
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"Develop content, add value to affiliates" is not SEO, argue at will."
I disagree. Search engine optimization should not be defined by a set of tactics.
�SEO� is the practice of enhancing a site's listings in the SERPS over the long-term.
In order to this most effectively, a search engine optimizer must help his/her clients appeal to the algorithms employed by the likes of Google. Since Google designs its algorithms to prioritize sites that add the most value to users, the best SEO tactics focus on just that: Adding value.
It's the SEO's job to do everything it takes to develop a site that adds value to users, and makes it easy for search engines to index sites.
Accordingly, the effective, ethical SEO professional needs to become an expert at creating value for searchers and end-users.
SEO is not dead. If anything, it's just changing... for the better.
Good SEOs have the opportunity to work with the Google's of the world to enhance the Internet by advocating the development and efficient dissemination/structuring of quality, useful content.
but then again, we aren't supposed to be privy to it. According to Google Guy, the page is protected and marked "Google Proprietary and Confidential"
Google sure knew what to expect in advance. On May 24 I wrote to the press office (for another story) and ended with a PS:
PS Will contact you in two weeks about Google Evaluation Lab.
Only one week later (now you see how untrustworthy I really am) I wrote:
Here are my questions:
1. How many international agents do you have for Google Rate Hub?
2. Do you pay them $20 an hour?
3. Do you recruit through Monsterboard and universities?
4. Last time (Google Hacking), you told me:
"We index content that we find posted online through an
automated process of crawling the web"
Eh... but why the human evaluation then?
After that question, Google Guy took over. Debbie Frost wrote to me:
Hi Henk,
I believe Googleguy has already responded to the story you submitted to
If the material was copyrighted, they really would have told me.. I did receive some material with a (C) in it, but didn't publish that documents.


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We usually meet on Monday evenings, either at the Pueblito Paisa cafe in the market, at the Polish cafe Pause just round the corner in Seven Sisters Road, or at The Garden House / Kitap Evi, 410 Tottenham High Rd, N17 9JB (just past the Police Station, about 1/2 mile up the High Road).
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The Wards Corner Community Coalition (WCC) is a grassroots organisation working to stop the demolition of the homes, businesses and indoor market above Seven Sisters tube station and fighting the attempts of Grainger PLC to force out the local community. Active since 2007 the WCC has been working to empower the community in Seven Sisters to take control of its future and determine how Wards Corner should be developed.
The WCC continues to fight for a fairer future and has received planning permission for a sustainable, community-led development of the Wards Corner Site. So far we have detailed plans for the indoor market and corner store. In the long term we will work on the other three corners of the Wards site to restore and improve this town centre that has been neglected for over forty years by Transport for London and Haringey Council.
The CPO Inquiry begins
On Wednesday 3rd May, the pre-inquiry meeting to set out the terms for the Inquiry, was held in the Wood Green Civic Centre.
Here are the minutes from that meeting.
The Inquiry will be at that place from 11th July, Tuesdays to Fridays, for three weeks ie to 28th July.
The documents for the case are being uploaded to http://seven-sisters.persona-pi.com/ . Persona is the company that does the admin for this CPO.
The Grainger/Council Statement of Case is on the Documents page. We have submitted our response, it's not on that website yet so we have attached it here. We have till 9TH MAY, to respond with any obvious omissions. Then till 20th June to submit all our final statements.
This is a big pdf file, 52 pages.
All comments welcome, email firstname.lastname@example.com
See this great short video of the Hug and Salsa Shutdown
On Saturday 8th April we are having a day full of events at Wards Corner, 2 to 4pm. We want to repeat our 2008 action of surrounding the block, to give it a hug. We need about 500 people for this, so please come along. We're having a salsa band, dancing, children's music, and lots of updating for those who want to catch up with the campaign. Please join us and bring everyone you know. Right on top of Seven Sisters tube station.
We now have the dates for the Public Inquiry on the CPO. There will be a preliminary hearing on Wednesday 3rd May, where the Inspector will consider what is involved. Then the Inquiry proper in July for three weeks. Tuesdays to Fridays, 11th July to 28th July. So thirteen days, where will will need to pay a barrister to defend us.
All this is planned to be at Wood Green Civic Centre, which is far from ideal. We were told before that the hearing would be at the local college or the old Town Hall, both of which are just five minutes' walk from Wards Corner. The Civic Centre is at least two bus rides away, so it is much more difficult for those affected to go except for whole days. Another unfair move by Haringey Council.
We need people to come to the hearings, so please note these dates in your diary.
Please support our legal challenge to prevent evictions at Seven Sisters
Dear friends,
The time has come to challenge the Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO) for Wards Corner - Haringey Council have issued a CPO to help the developer Grainger force the sale shops and homes at Seven Sisters.
We have launched a crowdfunder to raise some of the £1000s we need for legal fees to challenge the CPO. PLEASE circulate this link on all your networks - FB, twitter, snapchat, all of them. If you can donate, even better.
http://tinyurl.com/savewcc is the short form, easy to send.
Grainger need the CPO to happen so they can demolish the whole block and build private flats. No social housing, not even 'affordable'. Meanwhile Grainger is going ahead on the opposite corner, with building a huge tower block, 23 storeys, with 165 private flats, replacing the council's Customer Service facility Apex House.
We have a better plan. Rather than just saying No to demolition, we have an alternative. Our Community Plan would restore the building and open the 2446m2 of closed-up space above the market and in the 1910 corner store. This also has planning permission from Haringey Council. If they and Transport for London would work with the community, we can create a brilliant resource with much improved market, an arts centre, starter workshops, a restaurant and office space; it will become a tourism magnet. Directly above Seven Sisters underground station, it is just 13 minutes from Oxford Circus. It will save the unique indoor market which has become home-from-home to many of London's Latin American people, the market will not survive the double displacement and rent hikes that the Grainger plan would effect. Our plan has financial backing, we can't wait to get started but need the CPO is out of the way; we've waited four years already since getting planning permission. We know we can bring Wards Corner back to a new life.
In addition to the market, the Grainger plan will mean the demolition of the whole town centre - ten shops including the Beauty Shop with flats above, other cafes, and twelve homes in Suffield Road.
The CPO will now go to a public enquiry, in March/April. This is run by an independent Inspector. It has to judge whether the CPO - ie forcibly taking property - would be more in the public interest than not. We have a very strong case for the CPO being refused. But Grainger and Haringey Council will each have teams of barristers and solicitors, possibly QCs. There is no funding available via Legal Aid to challenge a CPO. Objectors - us - will be cross-examined by these lawyers - not a prospect most of us would relish. But Shepherds Bush market recently won against a CPO, this is a far from done deal, though the council and the developer are treating us as if they can just push ahead regardless. The council Leader said last month that 'Wards Corner is an eyesore' - so why haven't they and Transport for London (which owns the market site) done better since the Wards store was closed up in 1973? 43 years, all that wasted space and time...
We love the film at the fundraiser! It's only about the market, we will be making more information available in this next few weeks. https://www.youcaring.com/latinvillagewardscorner-714518
Thank you for your support and solidarity over the years,
Wards Corner Community Coalition
Please see www.tinyurl.com/wccCPOno for lots of info
The Compulsory Purchase Order by the Council to support the Grainger bid for the site has now been activated. We need all our supporters to join us in challenging this CPO. There is every chance it can be overturned, there have been some important precedents of this lately, notably at Shepherds Bush Market. The council and Grainger have to prove that there would be greater public benefit from the demolition, than not - so this is our chance to both detail the harm demolition would do, and to show what great possibilities there are for the site if our restoration plan is finally supported by this Labour council.
Thank you to the 2000 people who challenged the CPO.
Sadly, under the much-abused misnomer of ' Seven Sisters Regeneration ' Haringey Council is pushing ahead with the ill-conceived plans to demolish the local heritage buildings located at Wards Corner, South Tottenham. Since council-backed, private developer Grainger has failed to acquire all the properties on the open market, Haringey Council has started the formal Compulsory Purchase Order process in order to attempt to assemble the site required to pursue this destructive development. This means that long-standing, independent, Tottenham business owners risk being expropriated in favour of a large corporate entity for a project that a sizeable part of the local community is against. The project has debatable regeneration benefits and architectural merit and would have devastating heritage effects in this important conservation area. There is more information here on the Council's own website. Or look on www.haringey.gov.uk/wards-corner.
The Council continues to claim that demolishing the neglected, beautiful and interesting buildings of the ex-Wards Corner Department store, the Beauty Shop and the Tottenham Wines on West Green road and building a bland and generic, seven storey, glass-fronted building will improve the area. If it does go ahead it will be another chip out of Tottenham's disintegrating Historic Corridor.
There is still hope that the other plan, the Community Plan may see the light. The Trust, formed to renovate our cherished market and neglected historic buildings, continues its work.
Objections to the CPO were made to the National Planning Casework Unit, 5 St Philips Place, Colmore Row, Birmingham B3 2PW.
As it is our town centre then I think we all have an interest in the land. The deadline of 21st October has now passed, we are now waitng for the date of the enquiry.
On Thursday 25th February 2016, we had a party/launch event for the next stage of our Action Plan to regenerate the Indoor Market. It was at Zumbale, 263 High Road, N15 4RR - just past Costas,+ opposite Tescos. There was an introduction to the project, and a display of Columbian dance and music. 7pm to 9pm.
To see the Community Plan as passed by the Haringey Council planning committee, go here.
The project is a collaboration between WCC, the Open University's Engineering and Innovation Department and the Royal College of Art. It is part of a larger study, entitled 'Media, Community and the Creative Citizen', funded by the Arts and Humanities Research Council and the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council under the Connected Communities programme. The aim is to explore new and innovative ways to engage local people in participatory planning.
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He's drop-dead handsome, hugely talented and bald as an egg. Halim Jabbour, 30, also is one of Dallas' most in-demand leading men, cast in a variety of tasty roles at theaters large and small over the past year. For Ground Zero Theater Company, he was a cheating groom in the premiere of Vicki Cheatwood's smoldering drama 10:10. He played a New Yorker romancing a Georgia doll in Contemporary Theatre's nostalgic The Last Night of Ballyhoo. At Richardson Theatre Centre, he was the terrifying killer in Wait Until Dark. He never let up on intensity playing two roles (with and without toupee) in Boaz Unlocked's Three Days of Rain, even before an audience of three. "And that included my sister," he recalls. Born in Lebanon, raised in Saudi Arabia (his dad was a civil engineer there), Jabbour started pre-med at Baylor before transferring to UT-Austin, where he earned a radio-TV-film degree. After a stint at Circle in the Square theater in Manhattan and a year of study in Los Angeles, he moved to Dallas in 2002 and has worked steadily onstage ever since (by day he's production coordinator for Barney the Dinosaur). Dream role: one of the brothers in Sam Shepard's True West. Catch Jabbour in a new Texas Lottery commercial or onstage as Friar Laurence in Classical Acting Company's Romeo and Juliet.
The governor of New Jersey got more national pub with his Gayo-American speech, but in local terms Laura Miller's public coming-out confessional before the North Dallas Chamber in June was every bit as riveting. The feisty former journalist who ran for office on a pledge of back-to-basics--she waged red-meat political campaigns against "the boys downtown" and their "big-ticket projects"--told the Chamber her husband had called her "stupid" and she was switching over to the boys' team. Yup. Just that simple. Miller said her husband, state representative and asbestos lawyer Steve Wolens, "is a lot more mature than me." Apparently Wolens had told the little lady to ditch that populist thing, put on some big fat pearls and cozy up to the downtown dogs. So now that's her plan. Instead of the streets and gutters she promised the voters when she ran, she told the Chamber she is now focused on the dogs' main deals, like the Trinity River project and redeveloping downtown. One of the most exciting things about Miller's personality makeover is that it comes barely a third of the way through her first full term as mayor. At this rate, we'll get to see at least three more totally new mayors before her term is up.
Ayo doesn't sound like a DJ, and we mean that as a compliment. He's funny without being shecky; personable but not self-obsessed; and enthusiastic but never phony. He sounds like a guy who loves music, and that's endearing, since the dial's full of slick-voiced, self-promoting, station-hopping sycophants. He wears Converse and band shirts, laughs at his own goofy jokes and plays drums in the KDGE cover band, The Ronnie Dobbs Band. And now more people will get to know Alan Ayo. He recently moved from the midday shift to the Edge of Night position from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m.
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The guy writes three times a week; he doesn't have Mike Royko's research staff; he's not going to be Mike Royko, OK? Besides, look what happened to Royko. He's dead. Steve Blow is alive, if not edgy. With a laid-back, easygoing, yarn-spinning style, he can also be a darned good reporter when he feels like it. And if he had done not one other good column all year, he would have earned a Best of Dallas award just for the one he did on the Muslim couple who got jeered on the Jumbotron at Cowboy Stadium. In one short piece, Blow weaved together a tapestry of themes about bigotry, football, the hopes and fears of immigrants, and the newly diverse nature of the region. Not many scribblers can do all that in an 800-word column. Blow provides Dallas with something it sorely needs--a familiar and authentic voice. And by the way, in case you never noticed, this ain't Chicago.
If you want columns about the latest b.s. fads in corporate-speak or the 118th column about how a North Texas CEO is putting his company on the right track, you read The Dallas Morning News. If you want to find out the real reason the CEO of Southwest Airlines stepped down (he'd lost face in labor negotiations because of his "meddling chairman," Herb Kelleher) or if you want to know one of the unspoken reasons Arlington will overpay for the dubious promise of development around a new Cowboys stadium (because "among the nine biggest cities in the metroplex, Arlington had the largest increase in poverty in the 1990s"--and it has no other way to revitalize itself), then you read biz columnist Mitch Schnurman in the Star-T. Schnurman is a rarity--a smart, tough reporter who understands business and can explain how boardroom decisions affect a city and its citizens. You'd say that it would be great if he were a city columnist, but he already offers more insight into the way Fort Worth works than any columnist at the DMN has ever done with Big D.
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As the promise of the Morning News' "revolution" fades, it becomes more and more apparent that you can't change a corporate culture unless you (warning: bizspeak coming) hire peak performers and empower them. When the paper hired Keven Ann Willey to be its editorial page editor, it did just that. The editorials under Willey continue to be sharp and sensible. Even when we disagree with their conclusion, at least we know what the conclusion is--a marked improvement from the past 85 years or so. She has a vibrant, ideologically diverse staff that she allows to take the page in many different directions. It means that for the first time perhaps ever, you can open the editorial and op-ed pages of the DMN and be surprised.
Anybody really care what D magazine's writers think about Jessica Simpson, Alexa Conomos, Fireside Pies or other key issues of the day? Well, FrontBurner--a blog service of the publication's Web site--is the place to go if you do, indeed, care that much. On the other hand, if you prefer to catch up on inside jokes and office politics, they sometimes discuss cubicle size and trade sophomoric insults. Occasionally, they actually break some worthy news item, but that just detracts from their real purpose. The site apparently exists to allow the group (Adam McGill, Tim Rogers, Wick Allison, et. al.) to critique news coverage by other publications, particularly The Dallas Morning News. D's staff regularly calls out other writers in an online version of a Wild West challenge between two gunslingers. Downsides: Many people rightly or wrongly consider D a bastion of boosterism itself. Pluses: FrontBurner is great fun, sparked by occasional cattiness and a useful tidbit or two.


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Interview and Bike Profile: Mike Zanconato and his Personal Aluminum Disc Cyclocross Bike
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There were a number of purpose-built buikes at the 2016 Lost & found gravel race, including this suspended Soulcraft 26″ wheeled machine.
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We're closing in on the final bike profiles in our 2016 Cyclocross National Championships archives. Today we're showcasing Ben Gomez Villafañe's Specialized Crux Pro CX1.
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Thinking about the great racing to come this week has us thinking about the gear that folks will be riding on their way to the title. In Austin we saw some interesting bikes and some tried and trued set-ups that propelled their pilots to the podium's top step.
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Decapping and resizing would probably be OK, but you may find that the neck expanding die, and the bullet seating/crimping die are too long, and will not reach the neck of the shorter .455 case.
I just picked up a Webley 455 MkVI revolver that I'm looking for cases, dies, and bullets or a mould. Used items would be fine as I'm not planning on shooting it alot
I'm wondering if you can use Long Colt dies for sizing the 455 cases as I have those dies, If so I wouldn't have to buy dies then. Thanks, Ray
Decapping and resizing would probably be OK, but you may find that the neck expanding die, and the bullet seating/crimping die are too long, and will not reach the neck of the shorter .455 case.
It looks like you might be able to get by using a .45 Long Colt die to resize the cases, but the LC case diameter is about 4 thousandths of an inch bigger than the .455 case at the neck. Depending upon how tight your chambers are, it might or might not work.
It may be easier to find a used set of .45ACP dies for pretty cheap at a gun show, and use those. The .45 dies are a few thousandths smaller than the .455, and the cases are approximately the same length.
Lee sells 455 dies, they work fine. You will need the correct bullet with a hollow base as chamber throats run tight.
I read a post were someone suggested triming the width of the rims and cutting down the 45 Long Colt cases to the 455 case dimensions so I could make up a few cases that way and they stated further that you can make your own hollow based bullets by drilling out the base of the 45 LC cast bullet which if I recall my mould is .452 which is the right dia for the throat and bumps up to .455 bore with the hollow based bullets.
As I'm away from my reloading equipment for the moment and can't measure the case OD dia of the LC cases but I measured my revolvers chambers and they are .583 dia measured from the back, can't measure the fronts with my calipers. Can someone advise what the LC case OD diameters are and if they would fit my chambers? Also as suggested if I have to use the 45 acp case to crimp because the longer LC die won't work for that, maybe I should just buy the 45acp dies for sizing also. Would they work for 455 case sizing. Can someone provide the 455 and 45 acp case lengths to compare the two?
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My recommendation of .45 ACP dies was specifically intended to get the cost of the reloading equipment down.
You can probably pick up ACP dies for $10 or less at a gun show if you look around and haggle a bit. .45 ACP brass can often be obtained for free as range pick-up. The majority of the .45 brass I shoot was originally fired out of someone else's pistol, and left on the floor/ground at the range.
The .45 ACP dies will size the case to about .005" smaller than a .455" die.
You might want to try to find a slightly larger expander ball so your bullets will fit better, but my Mk. VI is one of those that seems to be pretty happy shooting the same 230 grain .452" flat based lead bullets I load in my .45ACP.
I have been using my '.45 ACP reloads' (loaded to 650-700 FPS) in my Mk. VI for quite some time, and have yet to split any cases from the cases being sized too small.
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Well I just got through firing my Webley. As I mentioned I probably wouldn't fire it much and didn't want to spend a lot of money to do it. So I made cases using the 45 long Colt cases and 255 gr Colt cast bullets I had. In mikeing the Colt rims they were at .050 and I only needed to reduce them to .045, (.005), to fuction/turn in the cylinder. Having no machinery I cut the cases down to the correct length with a hack saw and trued the cut up. Then I reduced the thickness of the rim on the primer side with emery paper on a flat surface holding the case rim side down. The primers still were deep enough below the surface of the reduced thickness of the rim.
Then using the Long colt dies and the 255 gr, .452 dia bullets, I loaded them using 4 grs of Unigue and fired them and shot well and were very accurate. However the trigger pull was terrible but dispite that I got a real good goup at 15 yrds.
I probably won't be shooting it much more it was just a challege to make the rounds, Ray
You have contracted the curse. You pick up an odd gun then spend hours looking for parts and ammo. Once you fire it you put it away
and look for another one. There is no known cure.
I have been reloading for many years and have about 25 plus dies and moulds and each were obtained to load for a gun that I had just aquired. Now they sit mostly unused as I had fired the guns and the challege was over and as you said, need to look for another one.
The good thing is, like the Webley, I can just about use/put together, what ever dies and cast bullets I already have to load for another caliber without having to buy much more stuff.
I just loaded for a 11mm French M74/80 black power rifle I just bought using my 45/70 dies to neck size and the .452 bullet sizer to reduce the .457 dia 500 gr 45/70 bullet to the proper dia to fit the chamber so I didn't have to buy the 11MM dies. Funny, every gun I buy, I have to try to reload for it at least once. Ray
Last edited by RayG_Wisconsin; 05-30-2013 at 08:44 AM.
The extreme case is when you buy a gun to use brass you picked up on the range.
Ranger Z I'm doing the 41 Swiss thing too eventually . Right now I am in the midst of my 44 Webley adventure. I've converted 44 mag brass (that was the easy part) and then had to invent a way to make .436 projectiles which I did using .452 LRNs and a hack saw and Yugo 8mm mauser brass and a 45 Colt case sizer. I'm working up load data now.
Every day is an adventure of one sort or another, if you live, you learn.
The 41 Swiss is a fun project. I would suggest that you download and save this article if you plan to do the 41 Swiss. http://www.militaryrifles.com/switze...ishooting.html
I would love to claim credit for knowledge in this area, but as Isaac Newton said, (I think it was him) I stand tall because I stand on the shoulders of giants.
Well I found out you can also load the 455 and also 45acp using the 45 long Colt dies. They all shoot .452 dia bullets and all have basically the same case Id diameters.
After loading the .455 I got to thinking, why not for the 45acp caliber also as those cases are similar to the 455 Webley cases and the 45acp is one of the few calibers I don't load for because years back the GI ammo was really cheap. But times have changed, as I just went to a Gun Show over the weekend and the same 50 rd boxes that you could buy for around 8-12 dollars were now going for 40-50 dollars. Of course these are the recent inflated prices.
Humm I thought, so time to load for the 45acp and as luck would have it, I found a single cavity semi wad, .452 Lee mould with handles for $10 on a table at the show. Which would do for me as I probably won't be shooting the 45acp much.
I used the 45 LC dies and sized and primed 20, 45 acp cases without a problem and they are waiting for me to make the bullets.
I have a bunch of 45, 255 gr bullets already that I had for the 45 LC and which I had used some in the Webley. Also I had bought some 45 acp rimmed cases awhile ago that I thought I could convert for the Webley but it turned out the 45 LC cases were easier to convert for me so I can use them in my 45acp revolvers with the 255gr bullets as an option, again using the 45 LC dies.
The bottom line was, I have too many dies for too many different calibers and didn't want to buy more so this was a workable alternative for two more calibers without having to buy the dies and besides I love these little challenges/adventures, Ray
Ha! I used to buy a bayonet and then try to find the rifle that went with it! This does work and I am still trying to find rifles to fit some of the bayonets I have! All kinds of variations of this "curse"!


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WASHINGTON – Male koalas may be small, but to woo the ladies they make a low-pitched grunt as deep as an elephant's call, thanks to an extra set of vocal cords.
This previously unknown organ lies outside the voice box, or larynx, and is not known to exist in any other land mammal, says a new study in the journal Current Biology.
Koalas seeking to mate make noises that sound like a mix between snoring and belching, something akin to a donkey's braying, explained lead researcher Benjamin Charlton of the University of Sussex. "They are actually quite loud," he said.
The koala makes a bellowing call 20 times deeper than would be expected for an animal that weighs just 8 kg on average, the study said.
But since these vocal cords lie where the oral and nasal cavities connect, they are not limited by the size constraints of the voice box, which typically makes for higher-pitched calls among smaller creatures.
These extra vocal cords are like two lips inside the soft palate, a location researchers described as "highly unusual."
After locating them, scientists performed an experiment using three koala cadavers "by sucking air through the pharynx and the larynx via the trachea, mimicking inhalation of air using the lungs," the study said.
A tiny camera was also inserted in the trachea to film the movement of the vocal cords during this time, and sound recordings captured the noises, confirming the organ's role in making the deep sounds.
Researchers said more study is needed to find out if female koalas have these vocal cords as well. Females are sometimes known to bellow deeply.


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A New Manifesto for Islamic Science Fiction!
Ahmed A. Khan has posted Islamic Science Fiction Coming into Light, a new manifesto for, and discussion of, Islamic science fiction:
Religious or spiritual science fiction (SF) is an established sub-genre of speculative fiction. There are magazines like "Solaris Science Fiction" that cater specifically to this sub-genre of speculative fiction. Of the sub-sub-genres in this category, Christian SF has been quite prominent.
A Google search for "Christian SF" brings hundreds of hits. On the other hand, Islamic SF has been coming to prominence only of late, particularly through the existence of websites like islamscifi.com and IslamOnline.net.
At the risk of sounding immodest, I like to think that the publication of anthology, "A Mosque Among the Stars" (edited by Aurangzeb Ahmad and yours truly) contributed more awareness of Islamic SF and planted seeds for fresh discourses.
In view of this rising awareness, I think this is the right time to come up with a definition and a manifesto for Islamic SF.
What is Islamic Science Fiction?
First, let me make it clear that this manifesto is not being touted as a definitive word on Islamic SF. On the other hand, its purpose is to encourage debate and discussion so that more ideas are generated and the field is delineated in more and more detail as time goes by.
So what is Islamic SF? – continue reading!
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Hankins, Rebecca. Fictional Islam: A Literary Review and Comparative Essay on Islam in Science Fiction and Fantasy. Foundation No. 105: 73-92. Spring 2009.
Rebecca continues to work in this area.
Comment by HW Hall | September 16, 2010
Let's think back. When the old Soviet establishment literature came out, the love stories were usually about a couple falling in love and then one of them sacrificing their love for the good of the State. The crime stories were about nefarious villains trying to subvert Communism and the stalwart investigator, full of ideology, bringing them down. Regardless of genre, there was a lot of chest-thumping about how wonderful the State was, how loving, how GLORIOUS!
We never called such stories "genre fiction" but called it for what it was. Propaganda. The "Left Behind" series is well recognised as Christian propaganda. Harry Harrison's short story "The Streets of Ashkelon" is science-fiction. Let's start telling the difference.
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Yesterday at Google's Google I/O conference, the company announced the beta of its Google Music offering, which will let you upload your personal music collection to Google's cloud, and listen to it anywhere, keeping everything in sync.
More importantly, here's a video of Chris, who introduces the service, sporting a very cool Doctor Who T-shirt. (Ironically, the service won't be available in the U.K. initially, but hey, thanks for the T-shirt!).
Anyway, there's more in the video about the actual music service, but we're digging on the threads.


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I haven't been as diligent as I should have in searching out activity trackers this past week and a half, mostly because I am in love with the Daily Mile and the Internet Training Log. However--I have discovered a very handy tool for finding out how far your run, walk, bike rides are if you do not know already. Maybe you have a favorite route and don't know how far it is or maybe you need to go a certain distance but don't know where to go to reach that!! Map my Run is a great tool to help you find routes near you and track miles!
You can track ahead or figure your distance after the run. There are most likely a ton of routes saved in your city as there were mine!
In either case, you are able to save prior routes created and search for ones in any area by city name or zip code. This means that if you are visiting home you can create a few routes and plan ahead so that you have no excuse not to log some miles of your choice. For instance this weekend I went to visit my Mom and ran an old cross country route that I thought I remembered being a five mile run. Once I got home and tracked what I really did, I saw it was 5.4. Creating the routes ahead of time is a nice way to pick your distance and stick to that, if you do devitae on the trip, you can always edit the route on map my run after the fact. Also, if you are visiting a new city, you can search for routes in that City, and by distance, newest created, most popular etc.
It's not the most user friendly website in the world, but it serves a great purpose. Because of the way that the routes are added to the maps (which are like city street maps from google) it can lack accuracy. As you can see for every spot you click on, the site will leave a square and map the route by connecting those.
So to really track the millage on a curved street or around a corner or lake, ideally you have to have many little squares, if not you will cut corners and inadvertently cut milage. BUT it will automatically mark your miles in gray circles which is nice to see. Still to be as accurate as possible it has to be tediously done or it will just serve as a good estimate.
Happy trails, happy tracking!


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I received this recipe from a restaurant, and even though I have lightened it up a bit, it is still thick and delicious. -Randa Smaligo of Pryor, Oklahoma
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- 1/2 cup reduced-fat mayonnaise
- 1/3 cup fat-free evaporated milk
- 1 teaspoon minced fresh dill
- 1/4 teaspoon seasoned salt
- In a small bowl, whisk the mayonnaise, milk, dill and seasoned salt. Cover and refrigerate for at least 4 hours before serving. Yield: 3/4 cup.
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