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Alibag Beach, Alibaug
Rank 2Ranked 2 of 27
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5.7 / 761 Ratings & 49 Reviews
Alibaug Beach is one of the prominent beaches of Alibaug town in the Konkan region of Maharashtra. Among all the beaches, Alibaug Beach has the blackest sand deposits. There is a mazhar of Ali Shah Bawa in the middle of the town and the beach has been named after him. Tourists... Read More »
"Not so clean beach"2 months ago "Thrilling rides at Ali bag beach"Jan 30, 2017
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Kihim Beach, Alibaug
Rank 3Ranked 3 of 27
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5.0 / 734 Ratings & 30 Reviews
Kihim Beach is situated 12 km from Alibaug and 120 km from Mumbai. The beach lies to the north of the city and is surrounded by various trees with colourful butterflies, coconut trees and wild flowers. The Kihim Beach retains its natural beauty as it is an undiscovered... Read More »
"Clean beach"3 months ago "Good rocky beach"Jan 30, 2016
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Varsoli beach, Alibaug
Rank 4Ranked 4 of 27
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5.5 / 712 Ratings & 11 Reviews
Versoli Beach is located on the outskirts of Alibaug in Versoli, which is a small satellite hamlet. Though this beach serves as a naval base, tourists can enjoy the white sand and clean water. Moreover, the beach is dotted with numerous coconut and casuarina trees. Read More »
"Clean and tidy beach"2 months ago "A nice clean beach"May 23, 2016
- Type: Beach
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Nagaon beach, Alibaug
Rank 6Ranked 6 of 27
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5.4 / 730 Ratings & 25 Reviews
Nagaon Beach is a beautiful beach situated 7 km from Alibaug on Alibaug-Revdanda route in the Raigad District of Maharashtra. The beach is surrounded by suru trees and cypress grove and is visited by number of tourists for its clean water. Water sports like boat ride, kayaking... Read More »
"Quite clean and big"2 months ago "Good surrounding and fascinating"Nov 22, 2015
- Type: Beach
voted as clean
Mandwa Beach, Alibaug
Rank 10Ranked 10 of 27
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5.2 / 79 Ratings & 7 Reviews
Mandwa Beach is located 20 km north of Alibaug and is thronged by number of tourists. The village of Mandwa, which is also located nearby, attracts visitors due to the presence of dense coconut trees. Chaul is also a popular tourist spot situated near the beach. This place is... Read More »
"Clear Beach"2 months ago "Good facilities in the beach"Nov 15, 2014
- Type: Beach
voted as clean
Akshi Beach, Alibaug
Rank 13Ranked 13 of 27
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5.6 / 75 Ratings & 3 Reviews
Akshi Beach is located at a distance of around 5 km from Alibaug town in a hamlet Akshi. It is a white sand beach with numerous suru trees present along the coast. The beach is frequented by tourists in large number as a variety of birds and different flora can be seen at the... Read More »
"Very clean beach but smell of fish..."Mar 17, 2016 "Good Beach but not much tourist visit..."Jan 19, 2016
Thal Beach, Alibaug
Rank 14Ranked 14 of 27
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Thal Beach is located on the sea shore around 6 km north of Alibaug. This place has a large number of Koli fishermen than in any of the Alibaug coastal village, and serves as a huge fishing centre. A small ruined fort of Khubladha or the Great Fight that can be seen on the... Read More »
Rewas Jetty, Alibaug
Rank 17Ranked 17 of 27
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4.0 / 71 Rating & 1 Review
Rewas Jetty is around 23 km from Alibaug and is known for Mumbai Launch Service. From the jetty, Uran can be seen, a part of Navi Mumbai. This place is located 6 km from Kihim Beach and is an ideal getaway from the city life. Read More »
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Rainbows Get Best of Trojans
HONOLULU - Chris Guigliano had a game-high 27 kills, but it wasn't enough to propel the Trojans (12-10, 9-8 MPSF) past the Rainbows of Hawaii.
In the end, Hawaii (17-10, 9-9 MPSF) swept USC, 15-12, 15-5, 15-11.
Eric Seiffert added 15 kills for the Trojans and Donald Suxho had 58 assists in the losing effort.
Jason Ring led Hawaii with 23 kills, whle Naveh Milo added 19 of his own.

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Chinese planes flew near Japanese airspace Monday to assert its claims to Japan's Senkaku islands (China calls them the Diaoyu islands).
The move came just as Japan announced its new prime minister.
Hugh White, a professor at Australian National University and a former Australian defense official, believes this is the latest sign the two countries are heading to war.
And the U.S. will be dragged in.
Writing in the Sydney Morning Herald, White says we are now witnessing the types of conditions that have historically led to war — despite conflict being in no one's interest.
Caught in a bind that threatens an Asian war nobody wants
THIS is how wars usually start: with a steadily escalating stand-off over something intrinsically worthless. So don't be too surprised if the US and Japan go to war with China next year over the uninhabited rocks that Japan calls the Senkakus and China calls the Diaoyu islands. And don't assume the war would be contained and short.
Of course we should all hope that common sense prevails.
It seems almost laughably unthinkable that the world's three richest countries – two of them nuclear-armed – would go to war over something so trivial. But that is to confuse what starts a war with what causes it. The Greek historian Thucydides first explained the difference almost 2500 years ago. He wrote that the catastrophic Peloponnesian War started from a spat between Athens and one of Sparta's allies over a relatively insignificant dispute. But what caused the war was something much graver: the growing wealth and power of Athens, and the fear this caused in Sparta.


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Will paying the excess cover repairing both cars? Or you on some 3rd party deal?
Will paying the excess cover repairing both cars? Or you on some 3rd party deal?
I am fully comp, 400quid excess.
I don't know the full details but if I phone them and ask them specifics it could land me in more difficulties. I heard that if you phone them to ask even though you may not plan on making a claim, it can still affect the premium.
What's your no claim bonus like?
Approx 3 years no claims but without protection. I heard claiming will affect me for the next 5 years though.
The usual rule of thumb for NCB is if you make a claim they reduce you NCB by 2 years at the next renewal so you would go down to 1 year which should roughly equate to an increase of 20% in premium.
I'd suggest you phone them and find out cos even with your £400 excess and increase in premium you might still be better off letting the insurance deal with it.
I've just made a claim and after being told it'll be around £600 all in I'm now waiting to get my car back and the total cost of repairs is in the region of £2200.
Don't forget once the person you hit has got home and been told by friends and family to claim for "injuries" and hire cars and everything else you could be left having paid for the repairs to her car then her still claiming through her own insurance and because you are at fault your insurance company would be obliged to pay & you still pay your xs etc.
Doesn't say much about my faith in human nature.......
Long story cut short use the insurance and take the hit.
If it was me id deal with her side first of all, explain what you will do ect, when the repairs can be done and settle it at that. Im sure if she is understanding and you say that insurance will be hassle its more than likely she will come around. Once you have sorted that side if things id concentrate in repairing yours, New indicator unit, lower headlight brow, some elbow grease and you will be sorted.
Renewal will be a pain, waiting for insurance, on the phone all the time, paying excess. Its just alot of hassle for a few hundred quids work
At the end of it you still have your no claim, no change to your premium ect, just make sure you inform her about everything
Hope you get it sorted dude let us know what you plan to do
It's been very difficult finding time to get this sorted around work etc.
A friend was able to clean the bumper up, it has come up quite well actually. I think all I am going to do now is get a new light and unless looking closely it will be hard to tell.
Can anyone suggest a good source for parts in the south wales region?
I've had a quick search around and expect 20quid will be the going rate but dont want to buy the wrong one. I took the passenger side indicator out and have noted the numbers from the serial number.
I will post another pic to show the finished results.
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HV Synth Design has released trial versions of Jazz Trumpet & Tenor Trombone, two acoustic modelled instruments.
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Multiple Shower Head/Water Pressure Question
I am re-doing an old bathroom and installing a larger shower with two shower heads (actually two shower stations, each with a rain head, and several smaller jets on the wall which can be turned on or off).
My question is whether I should run a new hot and cold supply line for the second shower head, or if it sufficient to simply split the existing lines and run them to each head. My concern is that if I split the existing lines I won't have enough pressure to run both heads.
If the recommendation is to run new supply lines, I need to know if it is OK to run plumbing lines horizontally through the wall or if the always need to come straight up underneath the fixture they will connect to.
Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide.
Hello Mike and welcome to the best darn DIY'r site on the web.
It would be good to know what the existing supply line size is and what is the existing line pressure. Without that its hard to say if you will get enough volume.
Hi Mark- thanks so much for the warm welcome! :thumbsup:
The main supply lines running in the basement are 1/2" and are reduced to 1/4" copper lines to feed the existing (old) shower head.
It hadn't occurred to me to check the water pressure although I can say that from my own observations that it is as good or better as anyplace I've ever lived.
I can get to ACE and pick up a pressure gauge in the next few days to measure it directly though- didn't even realize they made those.
Sounds like somethings wrong already. No way unless someone did something really wrong is a shower head supply 1/4"
Even a sink would have 3/8 supplys.
It will do 0 good to check the pressure. At rest the pressure will always be whatever the the incoming pressure is. It's volume that matters.
If your running two heads I would replace all the supplys with 3/4" it should increase the flow by about 25 %.
If the inlet pressure is 75 PSI then you will have approximately 5 GPM @ 60 PSI at the valve assembly, allowing for 30' of 1/2" pipe.
A new shower head is designed to used 2.2 GPM so as you can see, you could run (2) heads with a 1/2" pipe but don't flush the toilet or turn on a tap at the sink.
But for a multihead shower I to would be looking at running a 3/4" up to the shower and then splitting from there.
OK- I feel pretty stupid because I gave the wrong pipe dimensions. :blush:
You are correct- the main pipes in the house are 3/4", those are split down to 3/8" to the shower head.
Checking the manual for the shower panels I find:
"2.38 gallons per minute at 43 pounds per square inch (PSI)"To run both of them I'd want about 5gpm- so would the recommendation be to run new 3/4" supply lines (hot and cold) to the shower and split them just before the connections to the shower panels?
If this is the case- can anyone comment on whether it is permissible to run these supply lines horizontally through the wall? The room I am working in is on a concrete slab, and to run new lines under the ground feels like an imposing job to me. If I can run horizontal through the wall, I can bring the pipe from the basement into the wall, and then run them horizontally to where the shower is.
Thanks to everyone for the help with this- tonight is my first night on the forum and I can see I'll be visiting regularly as I work through this remodel! :thumbup:
Still have never once seem a shower head with a 3/8 supply or feed.
1/2" min.
It will work fine being run horizontal.
Feed it with 3/4" lines and split off with 1/2" for the heads.
Hey guys I think what hes installing is the pre piped shower stations they hang on the wall with the main shower head then a couple of body spray below they rough at ½ inch then you would use 3/8 flexible supply lines to connect to the station, so you can pre-pipe then hang on wall. Ive installed a couple of them dont really care for them. Pressure and volume is still an issue.
3/8 supplys to a shower head? Hmm.
If that's what the OP really has that's one poor set up.
Stand on a 3/4" garden hose and see how that works out for you trying to wash your car.
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I could never understand what people see in them they look like robots in the shower, I mean if your tearing down the shower go with the multi control multi shower heads and body wash heads, this is where the plumber needs to know how to loop and manifold rough.
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A friend recently asked me to have a look into what legal protections are available to someone who is being stalked online. Their query was complicated by the victim being in a different country than the stalker. I approached the issue by researching the relevant law in both countries, and then shifted my focus to any international law that might apply. Researching law covering the Internet is always both interesting and complicated since the relevant technology is always evolving, and the law is always necessarily a few steps behind as it tries to grapple with new ways that people come up with to abuse that technology. After a while the same themes became apparent through-out the literature, I'm going to talk about them in this post.
In the past I have written on the prevalence and personalities of Second Life stalkers, and on the relationship between law and technology. Feel free to have a hunt through the rest of my blog if you want further background on my views on such matters. This post though will primarily focus on what appear to be the current legal attitudes towards cyberstalking.
One of the biggest problems for law that should be able to cover cyberstalking, is that it's working from the fundamentals of real life stalkers. So the focus is on people who have physical access to you and therefore pose a "real" threat – these people are of course in your own country and thereby covered by the same laws as you live under. This real world focus also means your stalker is easily identified – you know their name or the way they look. As soon as you move into the virtual world you lose two of those key elements required under stalker laws – even laws that have been modified or created to reflect the use of new technology: Those two elements being the idea that the stalker is in the same jurisdiction as you, and that they are not anonymous.
There appears to be a trend away from requiring the potential for physical harm from your cyberstalker; recognition that harassment short of fear for your safety (or your job loss in employment legislation), is an event the law should still be interested in. There are also steps you can take to help identify your stalker – through the assistance of the ISP of the offender, and the help of the organisation responsible for the service through which you are being harassed (such as Second Life).
The two main methods for getting help to stop the cyberstalker – whether in your own country or abroad – appear to be as follows:
1 Reporting them to the Police
Because the law has this nasty habit of frequently changing, and varies so much country to country, your best bet is to talk directly to your local police about the situation and ask what you can do about it. There may not be law to directly cover your situation, but you might as well find out, and at the very least they will be able to point you in the right direction for alternative options. If the police show no interest in your complaint or are excessively unhelpful, I have read some suggestions that you just go above their heads to the next policing level (whatever that may be in your specific country), and keep working your way up the policing system until you get some attention to your personal plight and the issue more generally. It will be very important that you have kept records of the stalker's communications with you. It will also be important that you have on record that you clearly asked them to stop all future communications (only do this once though – I'll talk about that further below).
2. Reporting them to the Service Providers
You should advise any organisation who's service is being used to stalk you, that this is happening. Companies don't want to be seen to allowing stalking or being party to such activities, and will generally be happy to help you out. In regards to Second Life, please use this link to view their requirements for reporting stalkers, and suggestions for dealing with them in-world. Their own suggestions mirror the self-help advice I'll now go through.
I find it useful to separate the advice for how to cope with cyberstalking through self-help, into two categories: The before and the after.
1. The Before
There are certain steps you can take to protect yourself from attracting or assisting cyberstalkers. These include not making available personal information through any public forums or profiles, using names that don't provide any personal information (gender neutral names are often suggested), and protecting and frequently changing passwords.
2.The After
Once you've got yourself a cyberstalker, it's important that you tell them to stop communicating with you, and only tell them once. After you've done this, stop all future communication with them – mute them for example. Also tell your friends not to communicate with them and to mute them. Do not begin communicating with them again, no matter what they say to you and your friends – if they try to threaten you into action you have even more grounds to go to the police and get them to take legal action – keep it all on file including your own responses (which should be non-existent after you tell them to leave you alone).
Many sites I went to suggested you do everything in your power to make sure they cannot contact you, including leaving your old accounts, changing your name, your email address, etc. This will especially be the suggestion where the service is set up in such a way that the offender can simply create new accounts to stalk you from, after their old ones get shut down. You're going to be asking yourself why you should be the one to leave your old accounts and change everything when you've done nothing wrong – it's just further punishment for yourself. Whether you take those extra steps to get away from the stalker will depend on how badly the stalking is upsetting you and how persistent it is – if you've got to do that to make it stop, then do that you must. It's a shame if it gets to that point of course, but considering just how bad stalking can get, you might want to cut it off by taking those steps before it gets any worse and ruins other aspects of your life.
I've also come across the argument line that if you do things that allow, encourage or make it easy for people to stalk you, then you lose grounds to complain about the predictable behaviour that ensues. For example, if you put up sexually suggestive pictures of you on a public site and then get a bunch of sexual advances from strangers, you should have expected that reaction and can't legitimately complain about it. That sounds a lot like the old rape law reasoning that women sent out sexually available messages by wearing short skirts, so men couldn't be blamed for following through on them. Obviously there's an enormous difference between being raped because you wore a short skirt, and being stalked online because you put a picture of you in skimpy lingerie on your profile, but the idea that you bring harassment on yourself and therefore lose a remedy against it, seems a tad off, no?
The issue of cyberstalking is further complicated by issues of what is considered harassment by one party, might be fine behaviour to someone else: Many jurisdictions appear to require an objective aspect, such as whether a reasonable person would feel harassed or fearful of the behaviour. It is exceptionally easy to accuse someone of cyberstalking you too. Every area of law has problems of evidence, policy and enforcement, and cyberstalking is utterly fraught with these.
After all my research – both through opinion pieces and legal materials – I come to this overall summary: If the stalker is in your jurisdiction and you have their identity, you have a good chance that your local laws will provide you some protection. If they are cyberstalking you from another jurisdiction, you can still make inquiries of your local police but are less likely to get a remedy. You still have available to you the options outlined above of taking the matter to the service providers involved, and self-help. It appears that the lack of a consistent international approach to the issue, in what is an ever developing area of the law, will often leave the victim with a confusing and distressing situation, but I hope this post helps some of you a little.


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Cathal Pendred will fight for the CWFC welterweight title in 2013 (Photo: Cage Warriors/Dolly Clew).
CAGE WARRIORS CEO Graham Boylan has confirmed that Cathal Pendred's next Cage Warriors outing will see him challenge for the CWFC welterweight title.
Pendred (11-2-1), who is undefeated in five fights on Cage Warriors, has had a particularly impressive 2012, which has seen him dispose of two highly-ranked opponents.
In June he secured a unanimous decision win over three-time UFC veteran David Bielkheden at Cage Warriors 47 in his hometown of Dublin, Ireland.
The 25-year-old followed that up with another win by unanimous decision against Bruno Carvalho in the main event at Cage Warriors 49 in Cardiff last month.
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In the OP, violence had not been initiated:"He proceeds to move from table to table demanding pearl necklaces, watches, wallets, anything he can get quickly. he is getting close to your table, by this time you've already quietly draw your firearm under the table and it now rests on your lap in your strong hand. You don't know if he is stable or if he will shoot up the place before leaving, but for not it seems like compliance is working with other tables."
Uh, merely "forget" to add part of the OP's scenario sentences, and what changes it ALL for those in REALITY? Why didn't you add this VERY valid part of the OP's statement below in there, if you really wanted to discuss this?????
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Two instances I would hope your mind comes to grips with!
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Valvetronic Sensor and CA Emission Warranty
I had issue with my 2008 328i with 60k miles where the car would have weird throttle response and stalled once in the highway. I brought it to the dealer that diagnosed it was due to failing Valvetronic Eccentric Shaft Sensor. I asked the dealer if it was covered under CA's 7 yr/70k emissions warranty, but they said no.
But when I got home, I studied my warranty manual and found that Valvetronic Sensor is covered under CA Emissions warranty. And the warranty condition is "To obtain service under this warranty, the vehi- cle must be brought, upon failure of a Smog Check test or upon discovery of the defect, to the workshop of any authorized BMW center, during normal business hours. "
I have scheduled the service to be done at my trusted indy. But now thinking of cancelling and try to appeal my warranty case. Has anyone here got the Valvetronic Eccentric Shaft Sensor replaced under this CA Warranty? Is there any good contact in BMW USA where I can get more clarification on this?
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I believe that they changed the warranty manual in later years to not enumerate everthing covered, leaving it up to the service advisor to call BMWNA for questions of coverage.
You should:
1) Contact the dealership's service department manager, and explain the problem to him.
2) If that doesn't work, call the BMWNA number listed in the booklet (1 800 831-1117) and ask them to help.
OP - if you have your indy shop do the repair, you will probably end up having to eat the cost. BMW specifies that all warranty repairs must be done by a 'qualified' repair facility, which means a dealer. A better approach is to have the dealer do the repair and then work the system for the reimbursement. Start with BMW NA. If they pass, then work up the food chain with CARB. The feds are on compulsory holiday, so no one will be in to take your case.
I have found that CA state agencies take their job rather seriously (I had a warranty claim on a non-BMW car I own resolved to my satisfaction once the state got involved).
Good luck!
Thanks all! I fired some emails to the dealer and BMWNA (the general customer relations email). I'll post my updates and learnings here.
Please let me know if you know a more efficient channels in BMWNA.
I am going to hold off having my indy repairing it. But it is pretty inconvenient to ground the car for long time. In the end it's not about the money, but principle.
I got this issue resolved and BMW/dealer agreed to replace my sensor under 7yr/70k mi CA Emissions warranty.
I called BMW NA owner relations 1-800#. At first the rep did not know anything about CA Emissions warranty and was dismissive. After pointing out the relevant section in my warranty manual and quoting CA regulations about this, I was put on hold. I assumed he talked to the right person, because once I talked to him again, the conversation changed completely for the better. he confirmed that my valvetronic sensor should be replaced under warranty. Not long after, I got a call from the dealer apologizing profusely and to set up the appointment. They also agreed to refund me the amount I paid them to diagnose the problem in the first place.
There needs to be more awareness for owners and dealers about extended CA Emissions warranty. Like earlier poster, I learned about this warranty from my other non-BMW car. The Japanese brand dealer told me not to get extended warranty because a lot of major mechanical breakdown expensive repairs are covered under the mandated CA emissions warranty. Basically any expensive parts (defined as >$500 to repair) whose failure may result in decreased emissions performance needs to be warranted for 7yr/70k mile. This coverage is valid for cars originaly sold and registerred in CA. We practiclaly paid for this warranty when paying more for CA emissions package. If your car is SULEV/PZEV it has even longer coverage.
In my case, the BMW warranty manual listed parts that are covered. In my 2008 3 series manual, it is listed in page 42. The coverages ranged from valvetronic sensor, VANOS units, fuel tank, etc. I heard that BMW is getting more generic in listing what is covered in later model years manuals, but I cannot verify. For comparison, my Honda's coverage list is 3 pages long. I am lucky that Valvetronic Sensor is explicitly listed. For other problems, I heard if you can argue that if your problem will cause you to fail smog test, that breakdown should be covered under the 7yr/70k mile policy.
There are many posts in this forum and bimmerpost about CA and Federal Emissions mandated extended warranty, but both dealers' and other owners' awareness on this needs to be improved. Because of the initial experience, I came out with guns blazing. But I found the key is to do your homework and get to speak to the right person.
Thank yo ufor others who posted their experiences with similar issue in this forum. It helped me a lot in my due dilligence. I clarified to the dealer that I do not want to be difficult, I just want to claim the rights I am entitled to.
I did not get an extended warranty for my 335d mainly because almost all the problems people have had with the diesel is emissions-related (EGR, SCR, etc.) As I drive ~18,000 miles per year, I would have gotten essentially 1 year of coverage for a 6/100K extended warranty, which really wasn't worth the $2500 or so. I, too, had to fight a bit to get my last SCR system problem fixed under the CA warranty.
The situation is ridiculous, IMO. For instance, there is a guy in NC (I won't pass on the wiseness of living there) that is having to pay for the exact same problem that a guy in CT got fixed free - only difference was due to which state they're in.
This is very interesting thread and a bookmarkable 'keeper'. I found this in an online Ford manual (here) but it seems to relate to all manufacturers' vehicles.
Vehicles Eligible for California Emission Warranty Coverage
California emission warranty coverage applies if your vehicle meets the
So, it would seem that my AZ purchased and registered car also enjoys the 7 year / 70k emissions warranty benefit.
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The warranty is state regulation, so it does apply to all manufacturers. Some brands are doing better job than others in highlighting it. It is sad but understandable that most owners are ignorant about this. But it is ridiculous that dealers and mfg's customer reps are clueless about this. The state is not driving awareness on this, and dealers would rather push us extended warranty than telling us about the emission warranty. I would expect in CA and state that adopts CA standard, dealers and SA's should be trained on this issue.
I wonder if we can influence the moderators here to create a sticky with reference materials on Federal and state specific warranties beyond BMW's standard. I am sure it will benefit a lot of people.
Was very interested in reading kuntilanak's comments about his valvetronic sensor being replaced under warranty. We just had our 2008 328i eccentric shaft sensor replaced part # 11377524879. We paid the bill, looked at our warranty book and noticed that the valvetronic sensor was covered. It is the exact same part number as the eccentric shaft sensor. We contacted our BMW dealer and were told that this was not covered because our sensor was INSIDE the valve cover rather than on the OUTSIDE. We then called BMW and were told that it was not covered according to their conversation with the dealer.
We were wondering if KUNTILANAK'S sensor was on the inside or outside of the valve cover.
Anyone else have any experience with this explanation?
Just posting this as an update to this thread
inside the Valve Cover, my ESS was replaced under SULEV extended warranty in a 2011 328i SULEV with 46k miles still under CPO (but SULEV warranty overruled even the $50 deductible CPO warranty)
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Is there more coin in customer paid maintenance than factory? I believe so.
But that has nothing to do with your dealer's recommendation. Nooooooooooo. Um....which dealer was that?
Now then. To view the most common failure and how to resolve all Eccentric Shaft Sensor issues, [click yer mouse here] Have you had your codes read?
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Now, we've all done this at the range a time or two and (horrors!) stopped ourselves and corrected it - here's the scene.
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Well, she was facing perpendicularly to the clerk, trying to find a safe direction to dry-fire - again, double/double checked, and then to my surprise, she turned the gun 90 degrees so the muzzle was pointing directly at the clerk.
I stepped forward and (I thought) gently redirected the muzzle off the clerk's abdomen, and said softly 'oh - don't point the gun at him' and gently took it and showed her how to get the slide locked back (requires the mag to be in), and then slide disengaged (had to drop the mag).
She was struggling and (potentially) not aware of the muzzle orientation.
Now SHE said 'hey, he cleared it, I cleared it what right do you have to swoop in and grab the gun out of my hand and tell ME not to point the muzzle at the clerk. Both HE and I knew it was empty'.
My contention was "I don't care, you NEVER, never do that no matter what".
She said (later) "well, if that's forbidden how do you examine a gun at a gun show. There's literally people everywhere and pretty much no place to point it."
I said "Well, first the gun has a tag-tie through the receiver, so it's one step beyond empty."
She said "If you ask, the merchant will remove the tag-tie and then you can look and work the slide and eject the mag and soforth is it OK THEN to point the muzzle where you like?"
I said 'OK that's a good point, but since the gun was in a level above cleared and empty with the tag tie, it's a little less important but I still try to handle it pointing at the floor'.
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I was flabbergasted and said 'you'd be ejected from the gunshow and banned for life, probably'.
I just don't know how to get across to her that you never point the muzzle intentionally at anyone no matter what discussion took place before hand, no matter how many times cleared and if you do and someone helps you to redirect at a safe angle you should thank them not get mad and fume at them for an hour afterward. She said 'you made me feel infantilized and I've been handling guns, rifles, shotguns my whole life - a lot longer than you have (me)'.
I said 'ok, I do not want to dis your feeling confident handling the gun, but can you just take my word for it you must exercise proper muzzle control at all time'.
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Hello im a concept artist (working at my first fulltime studio job for a triple A game) , and I hate going to work everyday but trying my best not to feel that way. I feel a bit trapped and tired of being there. So I come here because maybe someone has some advice. Here's why I dont like my job...
1.) I feel singled out.
The other artist get praise for everything. Everyday i have to deal with hearing this from the art director to the other artist... "good job , good job, good job", but when they come to me its always "fix this, or Im not really feeling this"...Now I can deal with criticism no problem but after hearing this for nearly 3 years now with few encouragements in between im just exhausted and feel useless as an artist to be honest... And ill bust my butt and stay extra late and work hard only to hear the same thing the next morning most of the time "im not feeling this or that". Makes a person feel like nothing they do is right or good enough. Lost so much confidence in myself since being here...
My fellow artist can turn something in that looks sketchy and just "acceptable". But I can do a similar design and make sure its very tight, lots of detail and professional and get told it needs more detail. I get so confused why I have to add more detail but others dont. I asked the art director this, and he was just silent for a second but finally said we're just alot more detailed oriented now. But why does it seem like it only applies to me when Im giving you a high quality end-render rather than sketches. Its not a question of skill or anything, because we're all skilled. It just seems like people get favor over others.
2.) I never get to paint illustrations. I cant fully grow here
I joined this studio thinking I'd get the chance to do some illustration work as well, but didnt realize that 90 percent of that is done by a single person (my age). I cant grow here if I dont get the opportunity to pratice more things besides designing props everyday. If I have to design chairs for another year while others constantly grow in illustration skills im going to lose my mind. My boss tends to keep it this way it seems despite my efforts for a change.
I could go on and elaborate some more, but Im trying not to make this post too long. And i apologize if I just sound like im complaining a lot but Ive simply lost the will to fight after 3 years now. I dont even like practicing at home anymore and Im just sick of art, sick of this job, sick of laughing and smiling pretending like i love it there, and sick of feeling trapped. Dont get me wrong, the pay is good, the people around me are generally nice, and for most thats enough, but at this starting point in my life/career, I want to feel complete and useful as an artist.... Not just the weakest link they give all the unfun work to. The game is almost releasing soon but I want to quit this job so bad, but havent gotten another one yet. If theres any advice out there from fellow artist I sure could use some.


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What Is The Value Of A Facebook Fan? Zero!
Posted by Augie Ray on July 8, 2010
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It is a question I hear several times a week: What is the value of a Facebook Fan? I've seen answers ranging from $136.38 to $3.60. I can't blame vendors, agencies and consultants for trying to answer the question -- the hunger from clients is so great that anyone promising a simple answer is likely to get attention. The problem is that there is no simple answer to such a complex question. In fact, it may be best if marketers approached this question as if the answer is zero -- unless and until the brand does something to create value with Facebook Fans.
There are numerous reasons the question of Facebook fan valuation is problematic:
Assumptions: The methodologies for estimating the value of a Facebook fan rely on a host of assumptions, but every audience, brand and program is unique. For example, the value of a fan for big-ticket items cannot be the same as a fan for lower-consideration items.
All fans are not equal: Every individual has a unique social graph and a unique voice. I might be considered influential on topics of social media and marketing, but my opinion on floor mops might hold little influence within my set of friends and followers. One's value as an influencer varies from category to category.
Acquisition matters: How a fan is acquired makes a difference. A fan that organically "likes" a brand has more potential value than one that is encouraged to click the "like" button in exchange for a coupon or some Farmville bucks.
Cause and effect: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Do Facebook fans spend more, or do people who spend more become fans? If the former, then Facebook fans are generating new value, but if the latter is true then Facebook fandom merely reflects existing value rather than creating new value for brands.
The smart marketer will approach the question of value as if the answer is zero -- there is no intrinsic value to a Facebook fan. This might sound sacrilegious to social media marketers, but think of it this way: What's the value of an email subscriber if the company never uses the database for anything? And what's the value of the same email subscriber if the company has a smart, user-focused strategy for email? It is what companies do with fans that creates value, not merely that a brand has fans.
If you find it concerning to think of Facebook fans as valueless, perhaps you might consider the difference between potential value and realized value. There is an appropriate and interesting corollary in the world of high school physics: If you lift a ball off the ground and hold it stationary, it has no kinetic energy but it does have potential energy; drop the ball, and the potential energy becomes kinetic energy. Facebook fans are like that -- all potential energy until you introduce something that creates kinetic energy. As such, the operative question isn't, "What is the value of a Facebook Fan?" but "How do I make my Facebook fans valuable?"
A Facebook fan has one primary value in the absence of activation by brands, and that is for risk mitigation, but even that value is made greater when brands foster stronger relationships with engaged fans. (Self-promotion alert: Watch for my new Forrester report on the ROI of social media marketing, due out within weeks. Risk mitigation is one perspective discussed and, when combined with other measurement approaches conveyed in the report, should assist marketers to assess the value they create with their social media efforts on Facebook and in other social venues.)
What do you think? Have you found easy ways to value your fans on Facebook? Or is real value only created when you unleash the potential value of fans via programs, interaction, information and other sorts of engagement?
Thanks Kent
Comment from Augie Ray on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 12:18
Great point, Kent. My reason for suggesting that marketers think of the value of a Facebook fan as $0 is this: No one in his right mind would think, "Well, if Facebook fans are work nothing then I'll stop doing it." This approach challenges marketers to think, "If my fans could be worth nothing or could be worth quite a lot based on my efforts, I better consider those efforts carefully."
Conversely, telling marketers their Facebook fans are worth $136.38 has the opposite effect. It can encourage marketers to engage in a game of audience acquisition at any cost and then to overlook the way value is created by that audience.
You and I agree: the value of a Facebook fan is > $0. But how much more is up to marketers' social and Facebook strategies.
I appreciate the input!
Great chatting
Comment from Kent Wakely on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 17:02
Absolutely -- I think we totally agree on the substantive points.
I just worry about busy executives catching the headline and not digging into the nuances of your well-thought-out point of view.
Maybe it's different Stateside (I'm in Canada) but I do still run into budget-owners who are unconvinced that there's >$0 value in social media followers.
- kent
Busy Executives
Comment from Augie Ray on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 17:38
Hmmm, maybe my next blog post should be "What is the ROI of Only Reading the Headline and Ignoring the Content"?
Love it
Comment from Kent Wakely on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 18:47
I love it!
And there are apparently a few commenters here who might find that valuable.
Cost Versus Value Helps To Create True Valuation
Comment from Mike Vangel (not verified) on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 15:47
Thank you, Augie, for stirring the pot. I look forward to reading your report.
As someone who has worked hard at attributing a true valuation (or at least a minimum contribution) for my social media efforts, I appreciate you grappling with this as well.
For me, "cost versus value" is an important part of the valuation process.
I touched upon this in my 2009 winning Forrester Groundswell award submission for UPS
and have taken it to the next level in 2010.
I will be presenting my methodology in Seattle @ Microsoft's world HQ in September for establishing true valuation by taking the quantum leap to measure Social Media ROI .
I never cease to be amazed by how many people are so quick to dismiss "attempting" to attribute value to their social media marketing efforts. Perhaps it is a poor craftsman who blames the tools or refuses to place a value? I think so.
From the methodology I have put in place and the data I have aggregated, Kent is on the right track. Real value is only created when you unleash the potential value of fans via programs, interaction, information and other sorts of engagement... and that valuation is specific to that overall campaign. I would even take it a step farther by saying the value of a Facebook fan is directly connected to the quality of the strategy and execution of the campaign.
All Facebook fans may not be valued equally but neither should the campaigns used to engage those fans.
Mike Vangel
Vice President, Client Strategy
TMP Worldwide
Thanks, Mike
Comment from Augie Ray on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 15:55
I appreciate the thoughts. For the record, I am not suggesting there aren't relevant ways to meaure ROI and other benefits from social media marketing; I just believe the question of how much a fan is worth is relatively meaningless.
Any time you care to share more about your methodology, I'm all ears!
Sell 'em all T-Shirts
Comment from John Vargo (not verified) on Sun, 11/07/2010 - 23:10
The way I see it, the fan = customer (current-or they would de-friend you) customer = priceless. These are the people who "come in the door" of any business on any given day. The business should use facebook to give pertinent information about making their purchase experience as informed and enjoyable as possible. There is no better asset to a business than a fan of the brand. These folks are every business' marketing team. I Think that a good way to value the customer or fan, is to track the average sale per customer, you should be able to get a good annual purchase value of each customer/ fan. Plus if you can sell em all a t shirt, there's that.
Interesting point of view
Comment from Victor Gavril (not verified) on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 11:58
I agree with this article. And it's true that marketers try to "create" values for every action of their fans, or even for the fans, especially when they have advertising campaigns that run on the internet, or on other media. I think it's easier for them to justify their actions in the front of their clients. (excuse me for my english)
This post is classic blogger hyperbole...
Comment from Chris McLaren (not verified) on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 09:47
...designed to get people like you and me to read it (cripes, I'm even commenting!). Of course it is possible to value a fan/follower for assessment purposes - you just have to know how to do it. And clearly Ray doesn't. Ray may not understand how to measure social media results either - this post sure makes it seem that way. Also Ray apparently doesn't do much relationship marketing, because if he did, he would have noticed that Facebook and other social nets are really no different -in terms of this issue - than other CRM channels. Every client's fan valuation will be unique, and be based on real outcomes. Yes, Ray - it is possible to do that. Sheesh.
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