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URGEN!T HELP! craters/fish eyes in my paint
Hi everyone I am new here and really need your help. This is my second time shooting paint (using deltron 2000 with dt870 reducer) and even though I cleaned everything thouroughly, (with dx 330 and I have a small dessicant system) I got these craters in my first coat of paint..... especially in the fiberglass part (shown in picture).
I mixed the paint in the following ratio: 300ml Deltron + 400ml DT870 reducer (giving me a total of 700ml). Does this sound about right? I am using Transtar 2k Speedseal for a primer sealer and I let it dry for over 30 mins.
It looks like solvent pop to me but I don't know what to do about it... I tried spraying a really light mist coat and and then a second coat and it was much better but there were still some craters here and there... oh and I am shooting under a canopy with plastic sheating all around. the temp today was 75 degrees and humidity was only 40%..... perfect day! If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it (I need to re-shoot tomorrow or I will have to wait till next weekend... ) Thank you. -peter
1. Not cleaning the parts correctly...this excerpt is from another post on blistering paint - you might want to read through it for some further information on cleaner/residue problems...
Link to post "Blistering Paint"
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Those are fisheyes. New fiber glass, usualy has mold release on it, which needs to be cleaned well with soap and water, and then a few cleanings with prep-sol (DX 330) with new rags each time. If you sanded it without cleaning it well, you will have rubbed the contaminants into the gel coat. Fiberglass needs to be clean, clean , clean.
Also, how long did you let the last DX330 dry before you painted it? If the DX330 was not completely flashed off, it will fisheye on you. These solvents are petroleum based. Wait at least 30 minutes (longer is better with fiberglass) after using DX330 before applying paint.
RE: Crater Fish Eyes
Thanks for the quick responses.
I did use the Karate Kid method for the dx330. We bought 3M Perfect-It wipes (lindt free) at the suggestion of Tri-City Paint. We probably went through about fifty of them wiping down the car, always getting fresh ones for each panel and covering the whole car twice.
This problem occurred on both steel parts and fiberglass, but the problem was MUCH more pronounced on the fiberglass. We cleaned the 'glass parts really well before shooting a bunch of PCL Polyprime over it and wet sanding.
Will it be ok if I "mist" the paint on as the first coat instead of putting on a medium coat? (this seemed to help a little)
Just in case anyone was wondering I was using a Devilbiss Finishline with a 1.3mm tip at 30psi inlet pressure.
Thanks again for the help - Peter
P.S: Once I get this paint thing figured out, I am going to shoot dcu2021 ppg clear tomorrow is there anything I should watch out for?
Sounds like your materials, wipes and prep were ok - other than there was release agent, as someone else suggested and might have gotten spread around.
Did you get fisheyes in the sealer? Or is this fisheyes down to the sealer?
I'd block sand with 400 wet and maybe even re-seal, then dust the first couple of coats of base. Just be careful not to get it too dry - or leave fisheyes in there as it will get magnified once you put clear on..no matter how much you sand and buff the clear.
Thank you Rambo The Dog,
The fisheyes were not in the sealer, at least I don't think they were. We were unfortunately shooting grey sealer over grey primer and it was VERY hard to tell the difference as I was shooting.
Looks like my wife and I will be resanding all the parts tomorrow and trying it again. We are also going to try removing the canopy tarps and letting the car soak some sun as well.
Does anyone use anything other than DX330? I keep hearing that people have problems with it and would like something more painless. I read that you can use an 85% alcohol and 15% water mix and wipe the car down with that too, has anyone here tried this?
Thanks agin for all the replies. - Peter
Heres a method I use that has never failed (1000s) and might be worth a read ...
Fisheyes can be caused by many things. Like already mentioned new fiberglass parts can have mold release on them and need to be cleaned well. But it sounds like you did clean well and you also got it on metal parts. Air supply, is it clean, but you didn't get this in your sealer coat, but make sure you are getting clean filter air supply. Where is your filter located? No products with silicone were used somewhat in the area recently. Other things to look at is the mixing container you used, even heard the dedorant, laundry detergent used, washing with dish soap ect causing fisheyes. Some people have had problems with tack rags causing fisheyes also, although I haven't personally had tackrags or dishsoap cause me problems. You were wiping the prepsol on and following with a clean dry rag right and gave awhile to evaporate before painting? Sounds like you took the proper preventive steps but something bit you. It does sound like contamination from the fiberglass parts since most pronouced and transfered to the metal, but sounds like you changed wipes often and did a thorough job.
I had a new gun cause a fisheye problem once, but it was a cheap chinese one, and once I took it apart and cleaned well, it was fine.
I think your course of action is to clean well and sand out the fisheyes and rebase. Change anything that may have been a problem.
I don't like using fisheye eliminator. You are actually adding silicone to the paint,and now your spraying it through your spray gun. Plus it sprays out more orange peely and are trying to cover the fisheyes. Hope you figure out what caused it and can rectify it for respraying.
Mix ratio on the base was about right.
Last edited by kenseth17; 02-17-2007 at 09:19 PM.
I am about to start over on my car this morning and was wondering if I can use scotch-brite UltraFine sheets instead of the 600 grit wet sanding to rescuff the primer-sealer. I laid down masking paper over the whole floor and wet sanding will ruin my entire masking job.
Thank you all - Peter
Remask it .
masking is part of the fun ...
no more wax and grease remover though..
wet sand 400 ..
rinse good, remask and shoot paint
I agree on the remask, you might be able to save most of the masking in the jambs but for the major exterior areas-yes remask. Also look at your airsupply, gun, and clothes to make sure the contaminants aren't coming from them. A $15 desicant snake dryer can make a world of difference on an airsupply that's less than perfect, also a disposable filter at the gun-if your compressor is having a workout keeping up or if it is old and worn it could be pumping some water and oil into the air. I'd definately give it a light sanding with 600 wet then a good rubdown with a grey scotchbrite, then mask and wipe with the DX330 followed by another wipedown with a waterborn wax and grease remover or a 50/50 mix of isopropal alchol and water before shooting it again. Also-make sure you give that basecoat a good amount of flashtime between coats to avoid any lifting problems on the respray.
I think it would be dumb to smear that stuff on it again...
.. ever... it would make as much sence as asking one of those that live in a cardboard box by the railroad tracks how to refinance your house..
Last edited by milo; 02-18-2007 at 02:07 PM.
We have begun wetsanding all of the parts with 600 wet. The areas that I have not painted I am just scuffing with the scotch-brite. After all of that is done I am going to try wiping down a panel with some Klean-Strip alcohol and DI water and see how that goes.
Next time I do this I am probably going to try the Transtar SCAT speedi-clean instead of the DX330 because it just seems too problematic.
I'll update this after I shoot some paint.
Thanks again for all the help - Peter
One thing that I haven't seen listed is to make sure that no silicone spray is sprayed anywhere close to the area you are painting in. I've seen paint jobs ruined by that.
As the others pretty well covered, it is necessary to consider all sources of potential contamimation.
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The University of Michigan women's soccer team (2-2-0) will return home to host its final regular-season non-conference matches of the season against a pair of Mid-American Conference opponents this weekend at the U-M Soccer Stadium. The Maize and Blue will take on Toledo (2-1-1) on Friday (Sept. 5, 7:30 p.m.) and Central Michigan (0-2-1) on Sunday (Sept. 7, 5 p.m.).
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2013 in Review: Michigan went 18-4-1 (9-1-1 Big Ten) last season, finished tied for second in the Big Ten Conference and advanced to the NCAA Elite Eight for the second time in program history. The Wolverines lost seven seniors to graduation that started a combined 140 matches last season alone. Michigan will also be without three-year starter Christina Murillo, who is taking the year off to train with Mexico in advance of next summer's FIFA Women's World Cup.
The Wolverines returned four players that started 10 or more games last season. Sophomore Madisson Lewis was U-M's second leading scorer in 2013 (6G, 9A) and an All-Big Ten Freshman Team selection. Sophomore goalkeeper Taylor Bucklin, senior defender Chloe Sosenko and junior defender Christina Ordonez also have plenty of game experience and will help lead the young squad.
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Toledo, under the direction of 14th-year head coach Brad Evans, is 3-1-1 after two-plus weeks of competition. The Rockets went 1-1 last weekend, falling to Pittsburgh (0-1) and defeating Xavier (1-0). Michigan and Toledo each played CSUN during the season-opening weekend -- the Wolverines defeated CSUN, 2-0, in their season opener, while Toledo played CSUN to a double-overtime tie (0-0). The Rockets topped Ohio State, 1-0 in double OT, Tuesday (Sept. 2) before coming to Ann Arbor for Friday's matchup. Four different Toledo players have goals this season, including junior midfielder Geri Siudzinski, who leads the Rockets with two markers and one assist. Junior goalkeeper Sam Tiongson has played every minute in goal for UT, making nine saves and allowing just two goals.
Series vs. Toledo: Michigan is 3-0-1 all-time against Toledo. The two teams last faced off on Sept. 10, 2010, where they played to a 2-2 tie in double overtime in Toledo, Ohio.
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Central Michigan is currently 0-2-1, with losses to Pittsburgh (0-1), DePaul (1-2) and Illinois State (1-5) and a tie against Detroit (0-0, 2OT). The Chippewas will host Oakland on Friday night (Sept. 5) before traveling to Ann Arbor. Sophomore midfielder Eliza Van de Kerkhove and senior midfielder Emily Cooksey have tallied CMU's only two goal this season. Sophomore goalkeeper Maddy Bunnell has played every minute in net for CMU, making 23 saves and allowing seven goals in four games. Central Michigan, which was picked to finish fourth in the Mid-American Conference (MAC) West, is led by second-year head coach Peter McGahey.
Series vs. Central Michigan: Michigan owns a 3-0-1 advantage in the all-time series with Central Michigan. The Wolverines and the Chippewas last met in the first round of the 2012 NCAA Tournament, when Michigan earned a 2-1 victory in overtime to advance to the second round.
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Nothing else she has done so encapsulates her strengths – a cool analytical brain, a gut feel for public opinion, a surprisingly unconventional streak – but also her weaknesses, chiefly a knack of raising hackles. Beneath that brisk exterior beats a subversive heart.
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She used to listen to the cricket on the radio with her father, who also encouraged an early interest in current affairs. She knew she wanted to be an MP by the age of 12. After what wasn't quite a bog-standard state education – village primary, then a fee-paying convent for a couple of years, winning a place aged 13 at Holton Park girls' grammar, which turned comprehensive during her time – St Hugh's, Oxford, provided the perfect place to raise her sights.
Founded for women in the days when Oxford refused them degrees, the college still trains its female students to push at the boundaries of what women can do. The sense that anything was possible must only have increased when, at the end of the then Theresa Brasier's first year, Margaret Thatcher became the first female Tory leader.
Yet while she joined the Oxford University Conservative Association, she wasn't its star. The president in her final year was Damian Green, who later beat her to the safe seat of Ashford (although the tortoise did eventually overtake the hare, since he's now her junior at the Home Office.) But university did bring her one priceless political asset: her husband.
She was chatting to fellow student Benazir Bhutto at a young Tories' disco when Philip May wandered over. Bhutto introduced them, and that was that. The couple married three years after she graduated and were still newlyweds when May suffered the first great trauma of her life, the sudden death of her father in a car crash. When her mother also died a year later, her husband became the only family she had – something that may explain not only their intense closeness as a couple but what one friend calls her "powerfully projected sense of the cat that walks alone". If she is unusually self-contained, perhaps it was learned the hard way.
Philip May, a popular figure with a successful City career, now goes loyally to all the networking parties she doesn't have time for and dispenses the bonhomie she can't. "I don't think she would have managed all of this without Philip at her side: he's a modern day Denis Thatcher," says one friend of the couple. He is, confirms another family friend, endlessly supportive: "In Labour circles that's the norm but in Tory circles it's really, really not. He will do stuff so she doesn't have to." Although they both love hiking and she's a keen cook, life inevitably revolves around her long working hours.
The couple are childless, a topic still too raw for friends to broach easily. All she will say publicly is that she wanted children but it just didn't happen. So while her contemporaries changed nappies, May spent days in the City – she joined the Bank of England from university, then the Association of Payment Clearing Services – and her nights on politics.
When she was elected to Merton council, in south London, in 1986 it was clearly a stepping-stone to higher things. "She was already polished, much more sophisticated than the rest of us," recalls Siobhain McDonagh, then a fellow Merton councillor and now a Labour MP. May worked conscientiously as a councillor while scouting for a parliamentary seat (she fought two unwinnables before landing Maidenhead, then a marginal) but never, says McDonagh, seemed to feel strongly about anything. And that's what still troubles Tory MPs. What, if anything, does May really believe?
"She doesn't dazzle in a Boris or Gove way but she's much cleverer than people would naturally think," says a former Tory adviser who worked with her in the early days. "If you said to most people 'rank the cabinet on intellectual terms' she might come near the bottom, but I would put her at the top." Elected in 1997, she was on the frontbench by 1998, in shadow cabinet by 1999, but it was a perilously steep learning curve.
Initially she was nervous in the Commons, stilted in interviews, with a reputation for adopting the opinion of whomever she had last spoken to: "Theresa May, or she may not" was the running joke. But she has methodically tackled her flaws and dominates the chamber now. The way she wrongfooted MPs gossiping about her recent weight loss – it was, she revealed, down to having diabetes – suggests an increasingly sure media touch.
But it's her time at the Home Office that has been the gamechanger. To have survived three years there remains no mean feat, despite blunders such as her half-baked claim that an illegal immigrant avoided deportation because of his cat. "My view of people who said she was over-promoted is that she's totally proved them wrong," says Jacqui Smith, one of her Labour predecessors as home secretary. "It appears to me that she has a very good grasp of the things she needs to grasp. She doesn't feel the need to grandstand."
The Tory MP Cheryl Gillan, who served with her in cabinet, thinks she is routinely underestimated simply because she doesn't play the male game: she sits back and listens in meetings rather than throwing her weight around. "She's a tremendous listener, she takes it all in, and I think that is often women's operating style," says Gillan.
But while May has competently pushed through Downing Street's police and immigration changes, "what she hasn't done is things that were necessarily her idea", according to Smith. She seems consumed less by a longing to change the world than a workmanlike desire to run things well. The closest thing she has to a driving passion may be pulling other women up the ladder. She isn't afraid to call herself a feminist, and the ferocious battles she fought with male colleagues over opening up politics to women have changed the way her party looks, feels and thinks.
It was the creation of Women2Win, a pressure group she set up with the veteran Tory activist Anne (now Lady) Jenkin to support female candidates, that helped persuade Cameron shortly after he became leader to adopt the A-list – 100 favoured candidates, half of them female. There are high-flying women in the Commons who essentially owe their jobs to her.
What she has lacked, however, is a broader political vision, a gap she moved to fill this summer with a keynote speech to a Conservative Home conference. The stall she set out combined some big thinking – for example, on turning public services over to private, profit-making companies – with an astute focus on the blue-collar Tories deserting Cameron. MPs detected the fingerprints of her special adviser, Nick Timothy, all over it but it was the closest thing yet to a Mayite mission statement.
McDonagh thinks May's unusually detached approach has served her well. "You don't feel she would go to the stake for anyone or anything and perhaps that's her thing. She doesn't get emotionally caught up in it all." She steps back, surveys the big picture, isn't swayed by human drama (which may explain why she is said to have raised questions over bombing Syria). And it's this unsentimental streak that liberated her to make a speech no other senior Tory would.
Back in the autumn of 2002, May found herself chairman of a party that was, under Iain Duncan Smith, falling apart. She could have played it safe, using her conference speech to take cheap shots at Labour. Instead, she turned the guns on her own side.
"Twice we went to the country unchanged, unrepentant, just plain unattractive. And twice we got slaughtered," she told a startled audience. It's as neat a summary of the case for Tory modernisation as anything Cameron ever said. Yet the line everyone remembers is: "You know what some people call us? The nasty party." Her argument that they should show the label was unfair was lost in the uproar.
Were the inflammatory words even hers? Mark MacGregor flatly denies speculation that he wrote the speech, although he was one of several people consulted. By all accounts, May pondered several phrases before settling on "nasty" and agonised in private over whether to go ahead. But ultimately, she was convinced her party couldn't move forward without confronting the perception they were shrill and uncaring.
History has vindicated her, but years on she is still paying the price. Activists and MPs alike took personal, noisy offence: insulted pensioners ripped up their membership cards in front of her. "Internally it caused chaos. Things just broke between the old guard and the modernisers and we were pretty much asked to choose sides," says an ex-party staffer. Within the year, Duncan Smith was forced out for Michael Howard, fostering suspicion that May was an unwitting pawn in a bigger game.
Yet she emerged from this harrowing year a changed politician: steelier, more willing to trust her instincts, and finally conscious of her own strength.
The first time she seriously considered running for leader was after the 2005 election defeat. May discreetly sounded out MPs but, realising she lacked support, swallowed her pride and backed the less experienced Cameron. After winning, he demoted her to shadow leader of the house. It was, says a friend, a "demoralising" time. Perhaps surprisingly, given their similar instincts, Cameron and May were never close and relations now are wary.
Within the wider cabinet, she is respected but not loved: she has fought formidable turf wars with Vince Cable, Ken Clarke and George Osborne. One witness describes how, when Michael Gove once made some "slightly provocative and not terribly well considered remarks" about a paper of hers in a meeting, she erupted: "What she could have done is just brush them aside but she leapt on it. She went off the handle. David Cameron just stared."
Within the Home Office, there are complaints that she is controlling and crushes initiative. Two capable junior minsters, Nick Herbert and Lady Neville-Jones, both left after clashes over policy, while the department's permanent secretary, Helen Ghosh, also quit amid reported tensions. One Home Office insider describes her style as "I'm in charge and you must recognise that".
Were she a man, of course, that might not raise an eyebrow: and after years of being patronised, it's perhaps no wonder she lashes out when her authority seems challenged. Nonetheless, questions remain over how she would manage and inspire colleagues as a leader.
"She's not very imaginative and she's not going to allow other people to be imaginative," says a senior Tory who has worked closely with her in government. "She belonged to a generation where you had to fight to get anything. But she's arrived now, and she can't adapt. It's a shame because I think it's a barrier to her further advancement."
Nor has she built anything like enough backbench support yet to beat the golden boy, Boris Johnson. While there's always a chance Johnson will shoot himself in the foot, or fail to return to Westminster in time for a contest, the suspicion is that she has risen as far as she ever will. But perhaps, to misquote Duncan Smith, one shouldn't underestimate the power of a quiet woman.


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sorry to bust your bubble but the 2007 list does not come untill Jan 1, 2008 according to their website
This is a discussion on Thinning The Herd 2007 - Darwin Awards (LONG) within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; My buddy sent this to me. I have no idea how accurate or true it is, but it is still a humorous read. Thinning The ...
My buddy sent this to me. I have no idea how accurate or true it is, but it is still a humorous read.
Thinning The Herd 2007 - Darwin Awards
Eighth Place: In Detroit, a 41-year-old man got stuck and drowned in two feet of water after squeezing head first through an 18-inch-wide sewer grate while trying to retrieve his car keys.
Seventh Place: A 49-year-old San Francisco stockbroker -- who often bragged he was "totally-zoned when he ran" -- accidentally jogged off a 100-foot high cliff on his daily workout.
Sixth Place: While at the beach, Daniel Jones, 21, dug an 8-foot hole for protection from the wind and had been sitting in a beach chair at the bottom when it collapsed, burying him beneath 5 feet of sand. People on the beach used their hands and shovels trying to get him out but could not reach him. It took rescue workers using heavy equipment almost an hour to free him. Jones was pronounced dead at a local hospital.
Fifth Place: Santiago Alvarado, 24, was killed as he fell through the ceiling of a bicycle shop he was burglarizing. Death was caused when the long flashlight he had placed in his mouth to keep his hands free rammed into the base of his skull as he hit the floor.
Fourth Place: Sylvester Briddell, Jr., 26, was killed as he won a bet with friends who said he would not put a revolver loaded with four cartridges into his mouth and pull the trigger.
Third Place: After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door, a man walked into H & J Leather & Firearms intent on robbing the store. The shop was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter. Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up, and fired a few wild shots from a target pistol. The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases in the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics identified rounds from seven different weapons. No one else was hurt.
HONORABLE MENTION: Paul Stiller, 47, and his wife Bonnie were bored just driving around at 2 A.M. so they lit a quarter stick of dynamite to toss out the window to create some excitement. Apparently they failed to notice the window was closed.
RUNNER UP: Kerry Bingham had been drinking with several friends when one of them said they knew a person who had bungee-jumped from a local bridge in the middle of traffic. The conversation grew more heated and at least 10 men trooped along the walkway of the bridge at 4:30 AM. Upon arrival at the midpoint of the bridge, they discovered that no one had brought a bungee rope. Bingham, who had continued drinking, volunteered and pointed out that a coil of lineman's cable lay nearby. They secured one end around Bingham's leg and tied the other to the bridge. His fall lasted 40 feet before the cable tightened and tore his foot off at the ankle. He miraculously survived his fall into the icy water and was rescued by two nearby fishermen. Bingham's foot was never located.
AND THE 2007 WINNER IS... Zookeeper Friedrich Riesfeldt (Paderborn , Germany) fed his constipated elephant 22 doses of a animal laxative and more than a bushel of berries, figs and prunes, before the plugged-up pachyderm finally got relief. Investigators say ill-fated Friedrich, 46, was attempting to give the ailing elephant an olive oil enema when the beast suddenly unloaded. The sheer force of the elephant's unexpected defecation knocked Mr. Riesfeldt to the ground where he struck his head on a rock as the elephant continued to evacuate 200 pounds of dung on top of him.
It seems to be just one of those freak accidents that once again proves..."Stuff happens!"
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sorry to bust your bubble but the 2007 list does not come untill Jan 1, 2008 according to their website
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
Randy Cain.
Ego will kill you. Leave it at home.
Signed: Me!
The urban legend of the elephant story has been around the internet since 1998.
Here is another amusing urban legend:
This man was in a work related accident, so he filled out an insurance claim. The insurance company contacted him and asked for more information. This was his response:
"I am writing in response to your request for additional information for block number 3 of the accident reporting form. I put 'poor planning' as the cause of my accident. You said in your letter that I should explain more fully and I trust the following detail will be sufficient."
"I am an amateur radio operator and on the day of the accident, I was working alone on the top section of my new 80 foot tower. When I had completed my work, I discovered that I had, over the course of several trips up the tower, brought up about 300 pounds of tools and spare hardware. Rather than carry the now un-needed tools and material down by hand, I decided to lower the items down in a small barrel by using a pulley, which was fortunately attached to the gin pole at the top of the tower."
"Securing the rope at ground level, I went to the top of the tower and loaded the tools and material into the barrel. Then I went back to the ground and untied the rope, holding it tightly to ensure a slow descent of the 300 pounds of tools. You will note in block number 11 of the accident reporting form that I weigh only 155 pounds.
Due to my surprise of being jerked off the ground so suddenly, I lost my presence of mind and forgot to let go of the rope. Needless to say, I proceeded at a rather rapid rate of speed up the side of the tower. In the vicinity of the 40 foot level, I met the barrel coming down. This explains my fractured skull and broken collarbone."
"Slowed only slightly, I continued my rapid ascent, not stopping until the fingers of my right hand were two knuckles deep into the pulley. Fortunately, by this time, I had regained my presence of mind and was able to hold onto the rope in spite of my pain. At approximately the same time, however, the barrel of tools hit the ground and the bottom fell out of the barrel. Devoid of the weight of the tools, the barrel now weighed approximately 20 pounds. I refer you again to my weight in block number 11."
"As you might imagine, I began a rapid descent down the side of the tower. In the vicinity of the 40 foot level, I met the barrel coming up. This accounts for the two fractured ankles, and the lacerations of my legs and lower body. The encounter with the barrel slowed me enough to lessen my injuries when I fell onto the pile of tools, and fortunately, only three vertebrae were cracked. I am sorry to report, however, that as I lay there on the tools, in pain, unable to stand and watching the empty barrel 80 feet above me, I again lost my presence of mind. I let go of the rope..."
Magazine <> clip - know the difference
martyr is a fancy name for crappy fighter
You have never lived until you have almost died. For those that have fought for it, life has a special flavor the protected will never know
SelfDefense, that was a great Mythbusters episode! They proved that it could be done, but had a heck of a time getting their barrel to break...
A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.
WHY PADDY'S NOT AT WORK TODAY (Excuse Note)
(Pat Cooksey)
Dear Sir I write this note to inform you of my plight
And at the time of writing I am not a pretty sight
My body is all black and blue, my face a deathly gray
I write this note to tell why Paddy's not at work today
While working on the fourteenth floor, some bricks I had to clear
And to throw them down from off the top seemed quite a good idea
But the gaffer wasn't very pleased, he was an awful sod
He said I had to cart them down the ladder in me hod.
Well clearing all those bricks by hand, it seemed so very slow
So I hoisted up a barrel and secured the rope below
But in my haste to do the job, I was too blind to see
That a barrel full of building bricks is heavier than me.
So when I had untied the rope, the barrel fell like lead
And clinging tightly to the rope I started up instead
I took off like a rocket and to my dismay I found
That half way up I met the bloody barrel coming down.
Well the barrel broke my shoulder as on to the ground it sped
And when I reached the top I banged the pulley with me head
I held on tight, though numb with shock from this almighty blow
And the barrel spilled out half its load fourteen floors below
Now when those building bricks fell from the barrel to the floor
I then outweighed the barrel so I started down once more
I held on tightly to the rope as I flew to the ground
And I landed on those building bricks that were scattered all
Now as I lay there on the deck I thought I'd passed the worst
But when the barrel reached the top, that's when the bottom burst
A shower of bricks came down on me, I knew I had no hope
In all of this confusion, I let go the bloody rope.
The barrel being heavier, it started down once more
And landed right on top of me as I lay on the floor
It broke three ribs and my left arm, and I can only say
That I hope you'll understand why Paddy's not at work today.
"We're paratroopers. We're supposed to be surrounded!" Dick Winters
yep heard #3 many a times, and also true
makes me smile every time.
It was an episode on Mythbusters
I seem to remember reading #8 in this past years news...
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Eric Clapton's Triumphant Return to the Stage at Madison Square GardenIf Clapton is still dealing with peripheral neuropathy issues, you couldn't tell by watching him play.
Eric Clapton Announces 4 Additional U.S. ShowsHe'll be playing NYC and L.A. in September.
Eric Clapton: The Best Song from Every AlbumFeel free to argue with us, though.
Eric Clapton Plans to Return to the Stage in MarchThe just-announced concerts are billed "A Celebration of 50 Years of Music," and the advertisement uses images of Clapton from throughout his career.
Eric Clapton's Medical Condition Makes Playing Guitar Hard WorkThe legendary guitarist opens up about this diagnosis with peripheral neuropathy.
The Rolling Stones and Eric Clapton Hit the Studio Together: ReportThe meeting of the minds allegedly took place at a London studio.
Eric Clapton Preps Live CollectionThe three disc set features Clapton performing with Buddy Guy, Vince Gil, Carlos Santana and many many more.
Eric Clapton Agrees Justin Bieber Has 'Some Substance Now'Guitar legend Eric Clapton was disappointed when his three daughters became Justin Bieber Fans. But then Clapton heard Bieber's new material.
Eric Clapton to Release a Live Four Album Vinyl Box SetThe six-piece LP collection will arrive on March 25.
Eric Clapton Announces 23rd Studio Album 'I Still Do'The album reunites Clapton with legendary producer Glyn Johns.
Eric Clapton Concert Film Coming to Theaters in SeptemberThe concert film will feature music from his solo career, Cream and Derek and the Dominoes.
The Rolling Stones Unearth Alternate 'Brown Sugar' with Eric Clapton: ListenThe 'Sticky Fingers' reissue is out next week.


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You've spent the money (cleansers, toners, tonics), you've put in the time (religious washing, pin-point precise spot treatments), and yet those blemishes just won't budge. Our friends at YouBeauty investigate a surprising cause of acne.
But before you throw your hands up in hopelessness, we're going to suggest something you might not have thought of before–something so banal and necessary to your everyday existence, you wouldn't dare question its credibility.
MORE: How Much Water Do You Really Need?
That's right. With over 85 percent of all water in the U.S. being hard, most American homes have to face the cold, hard truth: We're covered in soap scum. And that soap scum is clogging our pores and contributing to breakouts. The problem with hard water is that its high mineral content prevents it from properly reacting with soap and, instead of triggering a lather, it creates a soapy layer on the skin. This not only clogs pores, but also irritates the skin, making it itchy, flaky and dry.
"These impurities in water make it difficult for soap and shampoo to wash off, leading to dryness of the skin and scalp, which directly irritate skin and cause redness and rosacea," says Dr. Dennis Gross, Manhattan dermatologist and founder of the Dr. Dennis Gross Skincare product line.
There's also a correlation between hard water and skin disorders, like eczema. "The minerals, such as calcium, that are found in higher concentration may cause loss of moisture in the skin, which can lead to irritating conditions, such as eczema," says New York dermatologist Dr. Eric Schweiger. Research at the University of Nottingham found that, out of over 7,500 school-age children, eczema was significantly more common for those living in hard water areas than those living in soft water areas.
It's not just a matter of converting hard water to soft, which can be achieved with an at-home filtration system, because this does not take care of the heavy metals–like iron, zinc, magnesium, copper and lead–that cause skin issues. "An at-home filtration system is not an effective means of safeguarding the skin because the heavy metals are microscopic and present in the actual solution of the water," says Dr. Gross.
QUIZ: How Healthy is Your Skin?
So what are these heavy metals actually doing to our skin?
According to Dr. Gross, the impurities cause a chemical reaction with the skin's natural oils, changing the consistency of the oil from a liquid to a wax, which in turn, clogs the pores and leads to acne. They have the same response to creams, even those that are non-comedogenic.
"After the face is washed and dried, the impurities from water still remain on the face and cling to the skin," says Dr. Gross. "Even though these creams are formulated with oil-like substances specifically created to not block pores, when the creams come in contact with water impurities left on the face (after it has been washed and patted dry), the remaining impurities cause the oil-like substances to clog the pores."
Also, the impurities found in tap water can act as free radicals, which bond with healthy skin cells and then destroy them. This in turn leads to the breakdown of collagen and leads to the formation of fine lines and wrinkles.
But for something touted as causing so many skin issues, it doesn't seem to have caught on with a majority of well-known skin specialists. Many state that, at worst, hard water makes skin drier. "In most patients, it would be helpful to switch from hard to soft water, but not necessary," says Dr. Schweiger. "If patients use gentle cleansers and wash carefully, applying a moisturizer after washing, most patients will be able to tolerate any type of water."
But Dr. Gross thinks it's just a matter of time until dermatologists start considering the havoc water is wreaking on our skin. He wasn't concerned much with water, either, until the skin woes of patients at his Manhattan practice led him to investigate further. "They would return from trips in the U.S. or abroad with irritated skin–even though they were using the exact same skincare regimen," he said. Concluding that their skin issues resulted from the variation of city water, Dr. Gross began running lab tests on tap water nationwide. "I was shocked by the variation of heavy metal content from city to city," he says.
In his research, Dr. Gross found that each metal pointed to a certain skin issue. He considers iron–with high amounts in Los Angeles, Park City, and New York–to be the most detrimental metal found in tap water because the accumulated deposits get energized by the sun, which has been linked to some cases of skin cancer. But for those individuals who are breakout prone, he says that calcium and magnesium are the two elements that will cause the most damage. "Both of these elements cause one's own oils to become comedogenic and form waxy plugs that clog pores and lead to further breakouts, inflammation, flare-ups and irritation," he said.
Some, after making this discovery, have quit tap water cold turkey–opting to cleanse with anhydrous (no water necessary) products or bottled water (so Paris Hilton). Washing with distilled water often leaves those unaccustomed with a "slippery" feeling, as the water instantly lathers and dismantles the soap scum later that lingers on skin.
But for those who can't resist that refreshing rush of H20 pouring down on their faces in the shower each morning, they can opt for products that contain chelators, an organic complex that sequesters the heavy metals on the surface of the skin, preventing them from penetrating into the pores and causing damage. Dr. Dennis Gross Skincare's Hydra-Pure? Intense Moisture Cream is infused with Dr. Gross's Chelating Complex, which he says "is likened to washing your face with pure H20."
Because even though it seems you can buy a potion for every pore in the skincare market these days, nothing beats a cleansing with pure, ol'fashioned H20.


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(Events) FUTUREPLACES, Conflux Festival, PSFK SALON MIAMI & More
A selection of upcoming events and conferences being held around the world.
RFID in Health Care East, Philadelphia, October 12
Hear leading health-care providers and early adopters share real-world case studies that reveal the business benefits of RFID technology.
FUTUREPLACES, Porto, Portugal, October 12 – 16
The FUTUREPLACES Festival is an international event fostering digital media work currently being produced around the world. We want to explore the impact of new technologies in life, communities, social well-being, cultural development and accessibility. futureplaces asks a fundamental question: how can new technology build local communities, create new identities, new narratives, new forms of public interaction? How can creative projects foster cultural development?
Mechanical Couture: Fashioning a New Order, Design Museum Holon, Israel, October 14-January 8, 2011
Design Museum Holon presents a groundbreaking exhibition exploring the pivotal role machines are playing in redefining haute couture – widely considered the most extravagant representation of fashion. Extraordinary fashion pieces by world-renowned designers – including ISSEY MIYAKE Creative Director, Dai Fujiwara, Shelley Fox and Marloes ten Bhömer – are featured in the exhibition, which subvert the prevalent notions of handwork and craftsmanship in fashion.
Architecture & Design Film Festival, New York City, October 14-17
The first US film festival celebrating the creative spirit of architecture and design will feature a dynamic selection of feature length films, documentaries and shorts. Plus, there will be lively discussions with filmmakers, architects and designers about the design process, architecture in film, and the brilliant designs we see and use every day.
The Feast, New York City, October 14-16
"The Feast" is a cross-disciplinary series of programs addressing social innovation and new ways to make the world a better place. Our secret sauce lies in a healthy combination of passion, creativity, and entrepreneurship to shift the way things are done – thereby changing individuals, industries, and ultimately the world.
Frieze Art Fair, London, October 14-17
Frieze Art Fair features over 150 of the most exciting contemporary art galleries in the world. The fair also includes specially commissioned artists' projects, a prestigious talks programme and an artist-led education schedule.


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With the commuting I do, I would love to see the 2.0L Duratorq Diesel Focus here. With the cost of fuel in Europe, people want the most options with the best fuel economy. Here in North America, we have less expensive fuel and larger distances to travel between points.
The problem with bringing diesel compact cars over to the US is marketing. Chevy has the diesel Cruze which is only available in a nice high trim level with lots of toys = lots of money. They market it as a premium car which it really is not. If manufacturers want a diesel to succeed, stop marketing it as a premium option. Cross-shopping the diesel with the gas really doesn't put the diesel in favor price wise. The added cost of the diesel plus the added cost of the toys some people don't care for makes it a non-option. Will it succeed? Time will tell. I'd love to own a diesel Focus but not if it's a $32k Titanium model.
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I don't feel that the MTX75 is "unfortunate". Yes, it could use another cog for economy, but it is a durable, proven transmission that has improved greatly in refinement since the MK1. It's not "revolutionary" either, but it works very well.
I think the 5 speed is a great transmission. In retrospect, there really isn't a whole lot of revolutionizing you can do to a "row your own" trans. Maybe tweak the shifter/clutch feel but that's about it. (though Ford doesn't need to do any tweaking to the feel of the MTX) It's good old simple fun technology on an otherwise fantastic chassis. I was actually referring to the 6 speed "PowerShit" that Ford made all of us consumers horny for when we got our Focus - and will continue to plague our handsome, fun and feature packed Foci until Ford does something about it. Of course, It's livable, but a 6spd manual Focus would be epic. All Ford needs to do is add another cog to the MTX75 and they'll have me back as a repeat customer and they'll have themselves a wonderfully reliable vehicle. I'd have gotten the 5 speed if it was available on a Titanium in late 2011.
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First up, Pizza Surpreme. Authentic wood-fired pizza is all the rage, but a great deal of the pies eaten in America are still pepperoni, meat-lover's, and supreme versions from 1-800 sources. But why eat heavy when you can have the same pleasure in a lighter pizza package? We attacked the supreme formula, leaning on veggies and walking back the meat (just one sausage link for the whole pizza). It's enough for flavor but doesn't leave you with pools of grease to blot. Lean turkey sausage stands in for pork, and lower-sodium marinara anchors the toppings. But, knowing when a low-fat swap is not worth it, we use full-fat mozzarella (and a generous amount of it)—which makes our pizza irresistible.Nutrition Information:
Calories Takeout: 507 | Ours: 344
Fat Takeout: 24g | Ours: 3g
Saturated fat Takeout: 10.7g | Ours: 4.1g
Sodium Takeout: 1,333mg | Ours: 640mg
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The 3.0 software allows for communication through the dock connector & bluetooth, but you have to sign an agreement with apple, pay a lot, and have the device "certified" and labeled. I really wanted to control my lego nxt bricks over Bluetooth, but I can't get access with the official SDK.
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Falling Cloudberries: A World of Family Recipes by Tessa Kiros, includes international recipes like Prego Rolls; Herrings Marinated in Vinegar with Dill, and Allspice; and Kolokassi.
Serves 4
This is how my mother makes her herrings. There are many ways to marinate and serve herrings and these are my favorite, marinated in vinegar, some sugar, carrots, onions, dill, and allspice. I also like them done with tomato and onion. They need to stay in their marinade for about three days before you eat them. Keep the jar in the fridge and make sure that the herrings are immersed in the liquid. They will keep for about a week in the fridge and the flavor will get stronger. I use lightly smoked salted herrings and you can also use unsmoked if you prefer. You might also like to add a dried red chili to your jar. These herrings are good served with room temperature potatoes that have been boiled with salt and dill stalks, or rye bread.
Rinse the herrings and soak them overnight in cold water, changing it a couple of times.
To fillet a herring, cut off the head and tail and then open the fish out flat, skin side up. Using your thumb, press down firmly along the backbone. This will nearly release the bones from the flesh. Turn the fish over and use scissors to snip through the backbone at the head and tail. Pull away the backbone, working toward the tail end. Remove any stray bones with your fingers or tweezers. Wash the fish and pat it dry. Cut the herring fillets into 1-inch strips.
Meanwhile, boil the vinegar, sugar, peppercorns, and 1 cup water in a small pan for a few minutes, stirring to make sure the sugar has dissolved. Remove from the heat and add the allspice and bay leaves. Leave to cool down completely.
Layer the herring strips in jars with the dill, onion rings, and carrots. Pour the cooled liquid into the jars, put on the lids tightly, and keep refrigerated. Marinate for three days (or at least 24 hours if you're in a hurry) before serving. The herrings are also good drained of vinegar and served on a plate with a drizzle of olive oil.
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Then the BMW is too technical for an experienced non-BMW technician? I've never in the 55+ years of driving been tied to a specific dealership, but then maybe I'm being naive. Granted most of my vehicles have been American made, the only so called exotic would have been my Alfa Romeo Milano. This is not a sarcastic reply, only trying to get real world experience.
Sorry, I was not on a computer, so you really didnt get my full thoughts...
I do all my own wrenching, pretty much, after warranty, Acura, Infiniti, Porsche, BMW, VW, Dodge, Ford..so far. So it would concern me.
As I re-read, you are not looking for a car with a warranty (even an 07 with a 6 yr warranty will pretty much be done soon)... so you are not technically tied to a dealer. If you would be buying a car with a BMW warranty, you (pretty much) must use the BMW dealer.
Technically speaking, anyone can fix these cars- I do. You can look stuff up, trouble shoot, load the BMW software test tools on a laptop, etc. You need to be pretty smart and pretty dogged though. BMW does not make nice neat tools like Ford or Acura- Service manuals that lay it all out there, etc. Plus these cars are increasingly software based, and not many indies in Montana will buy a license to load E70 code from BMW via their internet backbone...just sayin'
PRACTICALLY speaking, is there a qualified mechanic near you? If there answer is "Yeah, there's a guy they only does BMW and Volvo for the last 20 years- I stopped by and he has a dozen E70s that he sees for service" then you have a local mechanic.
No matter what you do, GET A PPI done prior to buying a car. Dont assume the salesmen will tell you- and dont assume they even KNOW. Salesmen purposefully dont look in the horses mouth...
Dont be afraid to search around here and over on xoutpost.com... lots of info on 'what options were available' and 'what do I look for' and ' whats it worth'... also you can find folks selling their single owner X5 or even turning in leases...better way than using a dealer, IMO. Ive found that owners tend to lie less.
Keep it as simple as possible...but no simpler.
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