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Fall 2009: Tied for second on the team with six singles wins in limited action due to an injury. Scored a first-round win at the ITA Regionals. Swept his three singles opponents in the season-opening St. Bonaventure Invitational.
2008-09: Earned All-MAC Second Team honors. Finished with a 17-14 singles record and 17-8 doubles mark, playing at the number one spot for both. Paired with Kirill Kolomyts for a 15-6 doubles mark, including an 11-3 dual meet record. Went 2-1 in singles and doubles play at season-opening St. Bonaventure Invitational. Competed at ITA Regionals going 1-1 in singles and doubles. Advanced to singles consolation finals of Cornell Wicked Invitational.
2007-08: Tied for second on the team with 15 singles wins, playing first and second singles during the spring. Advanced to the finals of the Cornell Fall Invitational, falling to UB teammate Nikesh Singh Panthlia in the championship match.
PERSONAL: Born September 28, 1988. Son of Marcelo Oliveira and Marcia B.G. Mazzetto. Has one sister (Rajaela). A fan of suspense books and movies. Favorite TV show is Lost. Favorite foods include meat, pasta and black beans. Lists Brazilian tennis star Gustavo Kuerten as his greatest athletic influence and the most impressive person that he's met. Majoring in industrial engineering.


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I have a 2 month old GSD I got from a local breeder. No papers but I met mom & dad on site. I am a first time GSD owner always had Australian Shepherds. Ive quickly learned this girl is just as highly intelligent. She seems to take to some obedience training when she wants of course speaks on command is potty trained. She's a vicous little bitter loves to rip your pants, she often wants to play with my old girl but my aussie just doesnt have the energy in her. I also work just a few hrs a day & have to kennel her I live on a few hundred acres but im afraid to let her roam shes so young. Any ideas on how to help her viciousness, how to help teach her the boundaries of my land or make the kennel a more tolerable experience, also any games we can play outside that she may like to make up for my old dogs lack of energy?
First threads to read and then reread on here -
Next, line up an experienced trainer - one who knows GSD.
Look up threads on here about engagement, and also do a search for Micheal Ellis videos especially on engagement
Thanks so much for the quick reply and very helpful advice
agree 100% about a trainer. Like you I've owned dogs but have my first GSD. HUGE difference when I brought the trainer on board
edit - let me also add congrats! your puppy is going to love those hundreds of acres :)
Please don't use the term vicious to describe an 8 week old puppy. She's not vicious. She's a puppy and a GSD puppy at that. They're mouthy. Some more so than others but still not anything to be called vicious. Determined or stubborn, maybe. Vicious, not so much.
Bring in a trainer to help you. You'll get there.
Thank you! I wish I could actually take her to some classes or hire a trainer. I've inquired around about it but I live in such a rural area everything I've found is a 4+ hr drive. I believe im going to have to watch these recommend videos & use my own experience of training other dogs I've owned. If anyone has advice on nutrition I'd also appreciate as to what I should maybe look for in food or what I can concoct myself to help her grow strong. As I dont live near any petco and such, even wal-mart is nearly a 2hr round trip lol.
Here is something to get you started:
Training Positive | Dog Training Explained links to videos etc
Also, a video rental service: BowWowFlix.com: Dog DVD Rentals | Dog Training Dvd | Dog Dvds | Rent Dog Videos - works like Netflix used to.
Leerburg Dog Training | 17,500 pages of dog training information, 750 free dog training streaming videos, free eBooks, podcasts, by Ed Frawley and Michael Ellis - Micheal Ellis videos
Which part of KY are you in? Some on here may have a suggestion for you.
far as her breaking the skin, she just needs to learn that putting her mouth on you equals no more fun. Some pups really are very stubborn about it and need constant reminders. Mouth on your means a time out. Make sure to carry a couple toys with you so when she starts to go for you, you can shove a toy in her face instead. Its about teaching her to redirect appropriately. She'll get there. Just time and patience and above all, consistency.
Far as food goes, puppy food is okay but switching her to a large breed adult food when she's about 6 months old is what I'd recommend myself, as will several others, I'm sure. You don't want her growing too quickly and the large breed adult is formulated to control her growth better. If you feed RAW, that should be fine, just remember to adjust for weight gain.
You can find some puppy mouthing horror stories on here with a simple search lol. Some never thought it would end and were pleasantly surprised when they realized it did. She may become more mouthy when she starts teething too so just be warned there. GSDs are a mouthy and vocal breed. My boy almost always has a ball in his mouth and my girl usually has a bone in hers that she's constantly knowing on.
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Tom Maynard's family have given the go-ahead for a trust to be created in the tragic cricket star's name.
The Tom Maynard Trust will be created initially to help the development of aspiring disadvantaged cricketers and other sports people who require support with their development, including bursaries, help with training and education, financial support for overseas placements and assistance with kit and equipment.
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Richard Thompson, Chairman of Surrey County Cricket Club, said: "We are delighted to support this venture.
"In addition to his considerable talent, Tom was an incredibly popular young man and the establishment of a Trust will ensure that his name will not be forgotten.
"It is fitting that the objectives should focus on helping aspiring young cricketers and I am sure that an enormous number of people will benefit in years to come."
Martyn Ryan, a friend of the Maynard family and founding Trustee, said: "This has been such a difficult time for the family but the suggestion of a Trust in Tom's name will provide a real focus for them and help to keep Tom's name alive.
"At this stage we're looking at some objectives based around helping emerging disadvantaged cricketers but we recognise that these things evolve and we hope that as the concept grows we can consider other ways of providing help for young people.
"We're pleased that it will involve personnel connected with both of Tom's clubs as well as the PCA, an organisation his father Matthew continues to be such a proud champion of."
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Even though Super Bowl XLVII and the Baltimore Ravens hoisting their second Lombardi Trophy in franchise history was four days ago, Baltimore is still painted purple and is basking in the glow of being Champions. Although this Super Bowl was rare in that there were so many big plays that affected the game, I have narrowed it down to four plays that determined the game.
First, you may be asking yourself, "how in the world can you narrow it down to just four plays?" and I would agree with you that it was incredibly difficult, and there are a number of plays that could make this list, but here are my four plays that determined the Super Bowl for the Ravens.
- Ravens defense holds on 4th and goal – San Francisco had charged back and had first and goal on the seven yard line with a chance to take the lead late in the fourth quarter. The 49'ers play calling on those four downs has been heavily scrutinized and rightfully so, as when you have a quarterback like Colin Kaepernick, I did not understand how you don't put the ball in his hands on the run and give him four shots to get into the end zone, but nonetheless it played out the way it did. Baltimore forced three incomplete passes on second, third, and fourth downs to hold with their backs against the wall and secured the victory for the Ravens.
- Jacoby Jones kickoff return touchdown – This play was huge for a number of reasons, and obviously largely because it put seven points on the board and gave Baltimore a 22 point lead, but to me it was that much bigger for another reason. At the end of the first half, San Francisco was able to kick a field goal and head into halftime with a little momentum and only trailed by 15 points. Undoubtedly, Jim Harbaugh told the 49'ers at halftime, "force a three and out on Baltimore's first drive and let's get this game to within one score" and the 49'ers defense was likely extremely pumped up to do just that as the Ravens got the kickoff in the second half. Jones had other ideas as he stole any momentum San Francisco had and made his way 108 yards down the field to return the kickoff for a touchdown and completely throw a haymaker at the 49'ers. This play was incredibly huge in this game.
- Courtney Upshaw forced fumble - I know you are probably saying to yourself that there were other plays that were bigger than this one, but think about what this play really did. Keep in mind this forced fumble came just five plays after San Francisco had just made a huge stop and sack on defense to force Baltimore to punt for the first time and that the San Francisco offense had picked up three first downs in four plays on their current drive and had driven the ball down to Baltimore's 24 yard line with the opportunity to pull within one point or even take the lead, but Upshaw came through with the huge forced fumble and Baltimore's offense drove right down the field for a touchdown. San Francisco had a golden opportunity to take all of the momentum early in the football game, but Upshaw forced the momentum onto the Ravens side.
- Sam Koch's tackle on punt return – I almost laughed when I decided this was one of the key plays in the game because let's face it, I am saying a tackle by a punter was one of the four deciding plays in the Super Bowl! But honestly it was. After Baltimore's offense was forced to a three and out in their own territory in the third quarter, Koch came on to punt the ball away and made an awful punt and Ted Ginn Jr. had a seam on the outside, but Koch followed the play and made a touchdown saving tackle at the sideline that forced Ginn out of bounds. This did two things, one, it exemplified the Ravens never say die attitude as it would have been easy for Koch to lower his head in disgust at the bad punt he had just made, but he didn't as he stayed with the play and saved a touchdown. Second, although the 49'ers still ended up scoring a touchdown on the drive, it saved some momentum for Baltimore because of what a punt return for a touchdown does for the overall momentum. If Ginn takes that punt to the house, all of the momentum shifts over to the San Francisco bench.
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Decibrity Playlist: Misery Index/
Misery Index is no stranger to these playlists. In fact, we were in the midst of winter 2013 when bassist/vocalist Jason Netherton regaled us with "bleak tunes that recall those snowbound blizzards from yesteryear." This time around, guitarist Mark Kloeppel went in a totally different direction to get you in the know about "hard" jams. We'll let him take things from here: "'Hard' is a special set of subtly nuanced cross-genre aesthetic characteristics within extreme music that may be a little elusive to the untrained ear. Basically, we are talking about ignorant, pounding grooves that might make you want to destroy a room or get in a street fight." Still curious? Check out the 10 tunes below. Just know that Kloeppel's not the first to make a Wendy's reference around these parts -- that's how hard we roll at the Deciblog. After perusing his selections, you can pick up a copy of Misery Index's fifth full-length, The Killing Gods, here.
Rattenfänger's "Clausae Patent" (from 2012's Epistolae Obscurorum Virorum) Hardest shit ever! Rattenfänger, a side project of our label mates Drudkh, is quintessentially "hard". Being hard is a subtle thing, as the music evokes in the listener a notion that talented musicians are utilizing a kind of elective ignorance as a purposive composition method. Listen to how the "thrash" beat mid-song sounds just a little to slow. That would be a big no-no for a band attempting to use a beat like that for its original purpose. To play a fast style beat too slow, in this case, is purposive ignorance. Now that is hard!
Goatwhore's "FBS" (from 2014's Constricting Rage Of The Merciless) Goatwhore? More like GoatwHARD. Bands have influences, and Goatwhore's influence is Celtic Frost, unabashedly deathrolling Warrior after Warrior-style riff. [Guitarist] Sammy [Duet] just doesn't give a F, and not giving a F is what being hard is all about. That's not to say Sammy doesn't have his own style. That dude has written the most rocking riffs I can remember, and his style is distinct. But the Frost is strong in this one, as is the Priest. I digress. On a song with a title like this, you might expect the meaning of the FBS acronym to be repeatedly rammed down your god-fearing throat. Nope. [Vocalist Ben] Falgoust only gives it to you one time mid-song. Hard!
Portal's "Curtain" (from 2013's Vexovoid) Ah, Portal...the big "F you" to computer-perfect precise death metal. It's almost as if the song was written for the video, which sets nice imagery to visually imagine their other songs. By totally ignoring any sort of trendy standard, these fellas put the clock faces and robes on and put the darkness in you...hard!
Hate Eternal's "I, Monarch" (from 2005's I, Monarch) [Erik] Rutan [guitarist/vocalist] is no slouch. But what does one do when he's already conquered the throne of the king of all kings? Punch you in the face with tyrannical, narcissistic rage, that's what! Hate Eternal has put out great tunes before and since this record. For me, this one just happens to be the hardest!
Fulgora's "Risen" (from 2013's Risen/Artifice EP) Better go to Wendy's and get yourself a Frosty, because you're going to need it after a track this hard! For me, it's like VOD went deathgrind. I don't include Fulgora because our drummer Adam [Jarvis] happens to be in the band. Rather, the riffs these dudes are churning out are next level. This is legit harshcore!
Xibalba's "Cold" (from 2012's Hasta La Muerte) In a world of hipster-djenty-quirky-vegan-douchey "metal", it's refreshing to see a band slam liquor and pork chops and then bring the pound cakes. Thank you Xibalba...for being hard!
Dying Fetus's "Subjected To A Beating" (from 2012's Reign Supreme) If you were to sit down with [vocalist/guitarist] John Gallagher for five minutes with a guitar, he would proceed to write more pummeling catchy riffs than you could in five years. This song and album is right up there with the "classic" material. And yeah, I did do some vocals on this track, but that's not why it's on the list. It's on the list for riff número uno in the song. So hard!
Magrudergrind's "Bridge Burner" (from 2009's Magrudergrind) I don't think you can get much harder than "Bridge Burner". The main riff is like getting curbed over and over again. I was a little bummed when [drummer] Chris [Moore] left this band. Those chops! That groove! That über-funked-in-the-pocket blast! I thought it was going to be all over. But the dudes pressed on strong, and still bring the pound cakes and the super grind...hard! Definitely your new favorite band, if they aren't already.
Infestdead's "JesuSatan" (from 1999's JesuSatan) The end of this song makes me want to punch every pony at the petting zoo. This is a drum machine project Dan Swanö used to figure out how to use a Mac to record for the first time. The riffs are spontaneous and pummeling. This is my absolute favorite record from Dan. Every single riff is catchy, rife with ignorance, and, most importantly...hard.
Machine Head's "Davidian" (from 1994's Burn My Eyes) Don't you even start to talk shit right now. I know, the same guy that was in Vio-lence could be seen sporting a scencester sideways cap and bandana like in some alternative monthly, and uniform code metal attire in your typical Euro metal mag in the same month. I know. Let's not even begin to talk about the "Red" album or how this video looks for that matter. Victim of the times, victim of the times. This song, though...you cannot tell me, for one instant, that when you hear "Let freedom ring with a shotgun blast" that you don't want to punch the person standing next you. Maybe it's just me, but I think it's hard.
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I helped my brother scout out a used Dodge Rampage for a project that he'd found listed on Turbo-Dodge... the route we took up to the seller was an incredible journey through some of the craziest, most technical roads I've seen outside a video game! So many tight and sweeping twisty roads, bluffs and great views of the mountains; and we were not in Focus! We both agreed that a trip back needed to happen with better wheels under us!
I've chatted briefly with the denizens of this site and another Focus-centric forum as well regarding an end-of-summer run through a route I found with my brother a few months ago. It's kinda out there, but the condition of the roads, beautiful scenery, and remote locations should provide ample opportunity to snap pictures and enjoy our cars for what they were made for!
Details will be forthcoming and plentiful after my brother and I do a dry-run this Sunday to map the route and take notes. I'm hoping to get some serious involvement from my fellow focus-nuts from the Mid-Atlantic region to help rep the little Fords! A friend of mine is also helping with planning, staging, and 'marketing'... he's a moderator for the Mid-Atlantic Cobra Association (MACA). Those guys are the ones responsible for a burgeoning car show scene in the Gaithersburg, MD area, and they come out in-force! They're promising 20 or more Cobras, Mustangs, Vettes and other assorted badassery will join the fray. My brother has also alerted some of the heavy hitters from 6 Speed Online and another guy from a Super car forum from DC. Dates and such will get hammered out after I figure out what route it is we (brother and I) took all those months ago. Tentatively it's looking like the end of this month and another run in mid-October.
The bridge is out along the route, so I'm talking to the construction company and the state about dates for the reopening: a fall run may need to be re-routed, or we wait for spring to run the route in all it's completed glory...
If you're from this area and recognize the locations in the photos DO NOT DISCUSS LOCATION PUBLICLY!!! I can't stress this enough! I'm arranging lodging at a chain local (within 10 minutes) of the starting point, and logistics with a number of car clubs and forum members. We could have a serious representation of well-prepped Focus', Mustangs, Muscle cars, and exotics attending the rally. I need to play the details real close to my vest until we get closer to an actual run-date.
We'll be running with these guys:
The list may grow as I get the work out.
Some rules for the thing:
·Obey all 'rules of the road' and state laws! Nothing kills the fun faster than a mass-traffic-stop!
·No jackassery will be tolerated! If you can't be a responsible driver, stay away... the route has some seriously dangerous stretches (especially) if you can't keep calm.
·Rural areas, townships, villages, and towns are scattered all over the countryside. Be safe and respectful to the denizens of these areas! We're guests, and we want to be welcome back.
·Raise your suspension if you're coilover'd! I didn't and scraped so many times it started seriously worrying me.
·Pre-Run checks must performed
-new brake components should be utilized. A semi-aggressive pad material would be ideal... crap pads are gonna fade and endanger us all!
-undercar inspections should be thorough; make sure EVERYTHING is in good working order beforehand!
Updates will follow as I get more info!
Anyone along I83 in York, PA feel like going on the recon-run with me?!
Some pics from the trip
This is gonna be quite the undertaking! Coilover'd cars are gonna have to raise 'em up! StanceWhores may just wanna show for pictures. Some supercars may be joining in on the trip... they're gonna get bashed up if they're too low.
The camera is super shaky because the road surface in this stretch is real choppy, and a storm rolled through that morning. We got there around noon and you can see the debris washed across the road.
Because if you're not careful, you could get badly hurt! There are some dangerous sections (it's part of the beauty and fun of this) The grade changes rapidly, and there have to be a couple hundred corners through the route... luck tends to favor the prepared! The elevation and angle on some of the 'highlight' corners is extreme! The tight corners have 40-60ft of elevation change on each of them. Pictures don't really do it justice! There are also stretches on high passes with no gaurdrails...
No need for confusion, Sir; we all know if you're enjoying a spirited/enthusiastic jaunt through the hills it's not inconceivable that you could get slightly carried away!
And I don't see why you couldn't go! This could be anywhere from one to six months away from happening; I can't reach anyone in the state-highway administration on a holiday weekend. I'll also have to talk to a local hotel and see if a club-rate can be arranged as well. I drove two and a half hours to get there from Frederick, MD; and you're definiitely gonna want to be fresh to drive this!
Sounds awesome, I might be interested, but I got a lot going on at the homefront at the time being so keep it in mind
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SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — A former New Mexico Public Regulation Commission employee h[auth] as won a $355,000 civil jury award after finding that he was fired in retaliation for pointing out problems at the agency.
But The Santa Fe New Mexican reports (http://bit.ly/T5hGdE) that the amount of damages to Aaron Feliciano is double the jury award because the case was brought under the state's 2010 Whistleblower Protection Act.
The $710,000 in damages will be paid by state taxpayers.
Feliciano was fired from his $85,000-a-year post as compliance director for the Public Regulation Commission's insurance division in 2009 after he complained that his supervisors were hiring political contributors to investigate insurance cases and that the resulting investigations were slow, costly and ineffective.
In 2010, he sued the commission, its former chief of staff Danny Mayfield and former insurance division director Morris Chavez under the Whistleblower Protection Act. The suit claimed Feliciano was fired for criticizing cronyism within the agency.
Defense attorney Douglas Gardner insisted Feliciano had been fired for poor job performance and unprofessional conduct — and that even before he was fired, Feliciano had begun documenting his supervisors' actions and had hired a lawyer in preparation for a lawsuit.
"The purpose of this job-security plan was simply to make it harder for his employer to fire him," Gardner said.
Feliciano's lawyer, Bryan Davis, said awarding damages under the new state law would send a different message.
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Davis hammered away at the defense's argument that Feliciano falsely claimed he was a certified public accountant in New Mexico.
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well, i drove around on it all weekend, probably put about 300 miles on it.
this morning i was able to find a shop that had a potenza RE760 non-runflat tire in the right size so i had them mount it up. i was going to try to drive back from buffalo with the donut, but was a little wary of driving non stop at highway speeds on it. 147 for the tire, and i got a front sized tire (i had blown a rear) so i can use it as a spare front or rear.
the donut spare worked admirably, as long as you kept in mind that it was a donut and drove more conservatively. ended up visiting all the places i was going to, minimal interruption to my trip, and it held me over untill i could find a suitable tire. most of the trips were short, in town trips, a few 30-50 mile ones though
interestingly, the dealer i got the tire from, even though it was a runflat certified
shop, didnt have either the 225/40 or the 255/35 runflat in stock.
i dont think the runflat tire would have gotten me through the weekend with all the driving i did.
looks like the donut was worth the price of admission
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Cadillac STS Forum - 2005 through 2012 Discussion, 2005 sts in dark blue and light green in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; here are a few pics of the 2005 sts in dark blue and light green. that dark blue is calling ...
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2005 sts in dark blue and light green
here are a few pics of the 2005 sts in dark blue and light green. that dark blue is calling me... it looks kinda mean:coolgleam I likes. the green pics are too large to post so here is the link enjoy! http://speed.supercars.net/Board?vie...D=4&tID=114620
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The more and more I see this car, the more it reminds me of a Deville...
Where did the Art&Science go?
I understand that not everyone wants it to look like a CTS, but would a four-door XLR have been too hard? Some of the early concept sketches looked like that. It will probably still do well though as other cars in it's class are bland-looking for the most part. It just seems that the STS is confused sbout it's identity(taking cues from 2 different design philosophies). It does look good on the road, but upon closer inspection it's character falls apart IMO.
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It looks a tad more bulky than the current generation STS. I hope they put a suspension and engine to bring it to par with the European sedans. It is about time the 12 year Northstar gets a revamp! When it was introduced, it was a world leader in design and innovation.. let's hope Caddy can do it again!
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I'm sorry, but I don't like it at all! Not at all! That's No Seville-replacement, much less a "normal" Cadillac. It's too small, too chopped up in design, looks very Japanese, much moreso than American Cadillac, what's with the huge piece of plastic under the hood? They don't want us to see the engine? Too disturbing for the tree hugger sect? The dash wood? Too Cocca in color looks major-fake. Interior looks tight, cramped. Big high slab sided, no character lines. I can just see these things running around here in NJ wit vogue WWs on them, simulated roadster roofs, pin stripes and all that stuff trying hard to make them look Cadillac. If I wanted a car that looked like that, I'd buy a Mitsubishi Lancer....please, give me a Cadillac - This car is a and could cause me to start :drinker and
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I have still not made up my mind on wheater or not I will like this car, I am waiting to see it in person. I know that you will see just about every luxary car have more and more plastic cover the engine. The main perpose of this is that it keeps the engine noise down, its basically just a engine muffler to the cabin. The other reason they do it is because when most people buy a luxary car they dont go under the hood very often, but when they do they dont want to see a bunch of wires all over the place. It keeps the engine bay looking neat and sharp. As for me I enjoy seeing a open carb. chromed engine under the hood, but I also like the covers in the lux cars.
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I have to say that every other time I see the pics it doesn't quit look like a $50,000 car on the outside. but i still like it more then i dislike it...i'll have to see it at the dealer and test drive it to pass final jugement.
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I agree with Sandy on this one. I was going to say it looks more and more like a Nissan Altima. See that red car in the background ? I think its a Nissan. Pretty close resemblance to the STS. I thought Cadillac was on its way back. Now I'm beginning to have my doubts.
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Re: 2005 sts in dark blue and light green
im still on the fence about the new sts. it doesnt look like a seville to me but rather a bigger cts. actually, THIS should be the cts and let's see a different sts that is a little more eye catching. i mean, come on....isnt the sts supposedly the flagship model for caddy? you cant have people, especially caddy fans/owners, going around doubting this car. i want to see more aggressive lines, and more wood on the inside. from the pics ive seen, it definitely doesnt look like a 50k+ car! it was a bold move, just not necesarily in the right direction.
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I think its ugly.
Re: 2005 sts in dark blue and light greenOriginally Posted by Sandy
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You do realize that this car will be equiped with the magnetic ride control. . .
I am reading alot of people knocking the way this car looks or that fact that they can't imagine this car ridding around New Jersey with whitewalls on it, with a canvas top, well the fact is that the people that you are refering to only make up a small portion of the target buyer for this car, and in order to increase sale you must expand that demagraph to a little larger than New jersey middle-age men who are of Italian descent.( P.s Tony Soprano drives a new caddy, and you will more than likely see a new sts in the next season) This car is going to be the final push that Cadillac needs to put it past mercedes in sales in the USA and also be the car that brings caddy to the forefront of the luxury car industry. . .
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Disappointing, to say the least. The designers sort of lost themselves in a "euro" kind of way. Sorry, but this car does not leave the "CADDY" impression on me. If you like it great, but for style, the 90 and 00-03 are much better in terms of style.
Im sure it probably is nice riding and all but, isnt the exterior 1 of the most important parts?
Maybe next year?
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it's weird the way i'm feeling it one day them im not feeling it the next. I really wanna see the STS-V body style and power specs now. but today I like the sporty luxo look of the 05 sts.
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I really thought it would have looked better than that.
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He He...You know what's funny, is this looks like a CTS thread a couple years ago. Noone liked the CTS when it first came out!
Also, those pictures still, again, make it look smaller than it really is. It is almost as long a current Deville, has a longer wheelbase, is almost as wide, and is TALLER. This is a big car people. Beside the CTS, it dwarfs it!...
You "big boat" people need to wait for the DTS. The STS is NOT a replacement for the Seville - it's what the Seville should have been in the first place. More separated from the Deville. The DTS is rummored to be longer, wider, taller and MUCH more roomier than the current deville. Unfortunately, you have to wait until mid 2005 for it .
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As we all know the Earth has a layered architecture and the layer we see of our planet's surface is actually the crust, which is also its thinnest layer that ranges from 5 to 70km in depth. The crust is the covering of the earth's second layer that is the mantle. The mantle, which is also the thickest layer of earth, extends to a depth of about 2890km with pressures at the bottom of the mantle reaching as high as 140 GigaPascals. For comparison, our atmosphere has a pressure of only 0.0001 GigaPascals.
The mantle leads the way to the core of the earth, which in itself is divided into two layers that is the outer core and the inner core. While the inner core is completely solid, the outer core is liquid. While the solid inner core has an estimated radius of 1220km, the liquid outer core extends beyond it to a radius of 3400km. As we can expect that at that depth, pressure and temperature is so high that it even melts iron and as a result everything in there should be in molten form. However, the fact is that despite being at the maximum depth, the inner core is completely solid and the outer core is molten.
To answer the question that why does the earth have a liquid outer core we have to understand that like all elements, iron can exist in any form, that is solid, liquid and gas, depending on the pressure and temperature it is at. However, the iron is a lot more complicated than other metals and it goes back from liquid to solid when the pressure is immense. The inner core experiences a pressure of an estimated 360 GigaPascals and at that pressure, immense temperature, like the one found on the surface of the sun is needed to melt iron. However, the temperature already inside the earth is enough to melt iron, provided there is less pressure.
To prove why earth's outer core is in liquid state, researchers say that the earth cools over time and its interior temperature drops, while its pressure remains constant. In other words, when the earth was born, it is likely that the entire core was molten. However, as the cooling process started the solid inner core continued to grow and the liquid outer core continued to shrink. In simple words, the earth's core is liquid, because the temperature there is high enough to melt iron, however, liquid iron only occurs in some places where the pressure is low enough.
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I recently replaced the blower motor on my Ducane 125,000 BTUh furnace. It called for a 3/4 HP, 1075 RPM 11.7 amp. I am not getting the desired RPM's out of the motor as my airflow is poor. The fan can barely push the cooled air up to the second floor. The black high speed fan lead is on the "cool" terminal on the Honeywell control board model ST9120C-2010. I had the motor shop test the fan ahead of time in the squirrel cage fan and housing and it was spinning at the desired rpm and amperage draw. I am convinced the controller is the culprit. Is there a way to program the controller to speed up the fan? There is a "speed up" terminal on the board just above the thermostat terminals.
Thank you for any help you can give!
Brand new.
Is the evap coil clean? Need to look at the bottom side of it to be sure.
Yes it is clean. I know the issue is with motor/fan speed and not inhibited air flow.
All the control does is supply power to the correct motor lead so it has 120V and runs or it doesn't. A weak capacitor can make the motor run slow. Try testing that. The motor is spinning the correct direction right?
forget the amperages on that bench test :wink: the coil/filter and duct rise gives you the actual amps in place with those restriction.motors inside the squirrel cage so it has to be right there with the fins and direction installed as removed
Are you sure its spinning the right way.
If the blower is spinning the correct direction, and the evaporator coil is clean, I recommend calling a pro to check the external static pressure of your duct work.
PSC motors will not deliver the desired airflow with a high ESP.
Yes- the motor is spinning the correct way- tried that already. This is actually the second motor I tried. I started with a 3/4 hp motor and had the same problem. The motor in question is now a 1 hp.
The OEM motor was a GE model. The new one is an AO Smith.
Is it possible that GE manufactured a motor for Ducane that outperforms its nameplate stats?
new capacitor with the new motor?
Yes - it came with the motor -could that be the culprit if starting voltage is not high enough?
A higher horsepower motor does not help you any, and in fact can hurt your airflow. Get the right motor for the furnace and install that. Test the sytem with a load against the motor (i.e. installed, with the system running). If you're still not getting good airflow you'll have to start looking at other things.
The "speed up" terminals just speed up delays on the board. They have nothing to do with fan speed.
are you shure your coil did not freeze when the original blower failed. If it did the ice will block your air flow.
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I thought you had to put etch down first on bare metal??
Depending on the system you are using etch is not a requirement, you just need a DTM (direct to metal) primer. My preference is epoxy, not only does it stick like crazy it also has enough body to do some filling and most important and unlike any other primer it is a 100% moisture barrier. Once coated in epoxy primer you will have no problem with surface rust even if you leave it out in the rain for a year. This also means that once the car is painted if you get a scratch or chip in the topcoat the steel is still protected.
Actually I like to use epoxy under the filler as well as on top because filler is like a sponge, with epoxy under the filler even a deep scratch that gets down to the filler won't lead to a rust spot.
Etch primer is not compatible with all fillers but epoxy does not have that problem, in my mind it's the best insurance you can put down for your paint job. As for a brand, like many others here I like SPI, you can get it mail order, it sprays nice, it sets hard and it sands easier than many other epoxies, plus it's less expensive than many of the name brands.
If it were my project, I would get rid of the etch, spray on two coats of epoxy and then a 2k urethane and start blocking. And did I mention that epoxy thineed about 10% makes a great sealer before your topcoat?
It's good stuff.
Thanks I am going to let my husband know. I can't do anything on drivers side with epoxy first before filler. But I cando that on the other side.
We are painting the car jet black with pearl white light ghost flames on hood and down the front fender a little. None of the body trim is going back on it.
So I really want the paint to last. Not going to be an easy fix if something happens...
Thanks again!!!!
Bondo will not stick well to etch primer it has to be sanded off,filler goes directly on bare metal then then etch is reapplied after sanding filler. I have a couple of horror stories about using etch with filler on top....and a whole days work coming off in one sheet with an air blower and a putty knife....
Ok now that I have heard all the stories on the etching primer. I am sanding the car down so my husband can apply the epoxy primer instead. But why in Gods name is the primer gumming up on the sand paper??? I am about to pull my hair out.
I want the car to be ready so the epoxy sticks good. But to get the etch off oh my flipping god. What am I doing wrong?
what 39 hemi said...x2
If it were my project, I would get rid of the etch, spray on two coats of epoxy and then a 2k urethane and start blocking. And did I mention that epoxy thineed about 10% makes a great sealer before your topcoat.
i know it may be tempting to hurry up.. but, paint especially black, is nothing compared to the quality body under it.. grab a D/A and some 150 -180 and go over everything, remove the etch ...then 2 coats of epoxy, folllowed the next day with good 2k, I use omni..for a sanding primer..then let it sit for a couple weeks..or pull it out in the sun, but let it sit !
no sanding between epoxy and 2k, unless you cant stand it, then a red or gray scotchbrite is plenty. block the 2k with 220 or finer lightly dry, use a guide coat..., if you are happy with the body..move on to 320, 360, 400, wet..then seal and paint...
IF !!! while you are sanding off the etch, and you are not happy with the bodywork..you might consider spraying a coat or 2 of feather fill...http://www.evercoat.com/productCategory.aspx?cat=10
it's sprayable bondo,,,
be patient, this is ony 1/2 black and it took forever!
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Etch primer has no place in today's world IMHO. Epoxy is superior.
Do yourself a large favor and call SPI @ 706781-2220 and get their epoxy and 2k primer. When you are ready, use their clear too. (free shipping! & best customer service you have ever experienced)
By doing this you will have excellent products at a very fair price, and they will work for you .
Like a number of others have said, most likely you need to remove the etch primer if you want the paint job to last for the long haul.
MAYBE the product you used is compatible with the filler you covered it with and the product line has a 2k primer that will cover the etch is the other option, Google the product line, read the TDS for each product and follow it and you might not have a problem.
If you are a Chinese car lot (lol @ dbm) and have no conscience leave the etch, put some rustoleum over it and sell it before it all fails at the car wash.
figure out where the lines will be , spray the jambs and clear, then mask the jambs and back tape the edge of the jamb, that means spray the jambs so color just gets onto the outside edge, then when spraying the outside, just start rolling the edg of the tape back into the jamb with each coat, and the let the clear overlap into the jamb as much as you can.. the dry overspray will come out with the buff. OR..do it just the opposite, spray the outside, then backmask the edges and spray the jambs, you can pretty much hardline (with fineline 3m blue tape)the door edge, but the quarter jambs need to be soft masked to look seamless.
they make aperature tape but its expensive,
I know refinish suppliers keep coming up with new products all the time. And we hope they get better as well, but the refinish game, changes are often prompted by government requirements.
In my definition, etching primer is used on bare metal. It serves two purposes, adhesion to the metal and rust prevention. It contains zinc, which is a sacrificial material. It will oxidize before the metal, and can prevent rust by doing so.
In my shop, we always apply etch primer to bare metal before body filler. The etching primer we use must be coated with a 2 part urethane primer, since polyester and other finishes will not work.
After the filler work is done, any bare metal is again coated with a very light coat of etching primer, then urethane is applied. If the filler is close to proper contour, the urethane can be applied as a surfacer (thicker) and blocked out. Or, spray polyester primer can be applied.
We usually cut filler with 40 grit, but often we start with 80. We finish cutting filler with 120 and sometimes 180 grit. The closer the filler is, the less time and money will be spent on primer/surfacer.
Remember, once metal shows through, you can't cut it any lower. The rule "sand until the highs meet the lows" is good, but metal doesn't cut with sandpaper. When you start to see metal showing, it's time to massage it down with a mallet or hammer... or fill the lows again.
I agree with the first guys epoxy primer than 2k high build primer, block sand. If the first primer is gumming the paper,wash it off with lacquer thinner and start over or it will haunt you forever.
The problem with epoxy primer is catalyzation. If you use any epoxy primer, follow label instructions carefully, and do anything else you can to promote proper hardening. Letting the mixed primer sit and begin to crosslink (induction) is worth doing.
We use a 60 second solvent test on all substrates. OEM finishes that are unaffected by the 60 second test can be trusted. Epoxy primer that doesn't pass can't be trusted. To do the test, we fold up a paper towel, soak it with lacquer thinner and hold it on the surface. If there is no, or very little effect, it passes.
We don't use epoxy primer. If it doesn't harden properly, it's no better than old time lacquer primer.
epoxy first has become the norm in custom and high end work. it is best for adhesion and corrosion resistance. be advised there are some epoxies out there that are not a true epoxy. you get what you pay for.
etch primer was pushed in the 70's because of all the peelers. they were blasted with acrylic and etched . required no sanding or taking apart. etch will absorb moisture just as an old lacquer primer will .it is not a primer surfacer and is to be put on thin. not really any place for it any more. the failure rates on etch got too high.
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