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My colleague has handed in her notice. She has another two weeks of her notice period left to run and I don't know how we are going to cope. She keeps going on about how amazing her new job is going to be and how she has always been held back by our "small-minded management". She even moans about the coffee in the canteen, which she'd been drinking quite happily for the past three years. It's all right for her, but we're still stuck here. By the time it comes to her leaving party we'll all be sick of her.
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In situations like this, you usually find out after someone leaves there's another reason behind it. The rudeness could be disguising anger. Maybe she is just very excited. She may just be immature and thoughtless, and will change as she gets older and more experienced in her career (although I have worked in offices where there are exceptions).
This is hard because if you persevere and say nothing, it might bring some nasty "home truths" out at your colleague's leaving do, which she wouldn't be expecting. A few drinks can loosen lips, and if it's been building up then it could slip out easily. I would have a quiet word to say, "Good on you, the job sounds amazing, but you know what? We quite like it here and would prefer you didn't say those not-so nice things."
If you wanted to be firmer you could tell her some people are taking offence to things she's saying and if she's unhappy about working through, then maybe she should take some leave now.
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Bite your tongue and wish her well. Life is really too short. Let her tell everyone how great her new job is - maybe she is just having second thoughts about her move and wants to reassure herself.
When you're on your notice period, the rules are simple. Don't rub it in and don't hype it up. You don't need to talk about how excited you are to be going to your new job. That's what your partner and friends are for. Tell them about it.
People move from one job to another for a reason - relocating, starting a family, changing career and so on - and your colleagues will know your reasons. So, if you are on your notice period and you get drawn into a conversation about leaving, just reassert those reasons and don't compare the two jobs at all.
What she should be talking about is tying up loose ends so no one has to pick up her work after you've gone. If she saves her enthusiasm for her leaving party, hopefully the present will be worth it!


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I can never ever hear the turbo blowoff valve on my 2000 9-5 V6. I have a high-flow cold air intake upgrade too, which should have made the blowoff even more noticeable. Can anyone recommend a brand of blow valve as an upgrade I can try? I heard they are fairly inexpensive and the install is pretty easy.


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My check engine light has been on for about 2 months.
Pulling the code for the Cat converter, went to the muffler shop to confirm. Muffler shop said it wasn't the cat though I needed a tune up. I did a transmission flush, spark plug change, and fuel induction service.
The check engine light stayed off for about 150 miles and then came back on.
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p0420 or p0430?
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its a converter. the only way it wouldn't be a converter is if you had an exhaust leak before the converter. sorry man, sounds like you got taken advantage of.
Should I just have them put a universal one on? What's the best route to go?
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You can try, I'd go OEM or high flow. If it was me I'd go high flow, but I'd want to match both sides.
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turtle has better defence and exactly the same attack and sometimes does more damage?
turtle has better defence and exactly the same attack and sometimes does more damage?
Because I can.
The fact is... That turtle's shot 2 (which is his strenght really) has to be ultra high angle or atleast fly for long to become one. Which makes it harder to shoot. Yes he has a shot 1 but dont expect that to be what damage you see. He has an ss which makes this big thing of water, IT has to be high angled to become small water balls and to hit all in one...
Mage, On the other hand, Has just really basic shots that dont need anything to activate how powerfull they are really. Mage's shot one shoots one blast which bunge pretty much and damage's ok. His shot 2 is two beams being shot away... IF u just have an angle for shot 1 this will hit too.. IF u have an angle for shot 1 with turtle shot 2 wont hit... IF its not a high angle i mean then . Mage's SS shoots a magic (Whatever) kind of thing away.. which explodes and there comes up this rune kind of thing.. This can damage more than one.. But if u really hit ON the enemy.. Not close ON and have quite a high angle so it was in the air for a while... U got yourself a nightmare weapon.
I myself preffer Aduka only games or Nak
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not entirely true that you need a high angle for turtle to work, if you do it right you can get both to hit the person for full damage
also, mage is a different type of mobile than turtle
mage has a shield, turtle doesn't
mage is laser type i believe, turtle is...i dont remember
turtle does have more life, but shield regenerates so shield wins
its all preference man..whatever you like go with it
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Mages SS breaks sheilds. You could have 900 life worth of sheild get hit with that SS and all of it would be gone.
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turtle ss can be in the air with 1.3 power and still do 600+ damge without thor or advatars
mage shot 1 has less bunge than turtle shot 1
if you have an angle for shot 1 turtle ss's shot will hit
its not really a nightmare thing if all the other bots are kal and nak. then you get your ass owned. mage's ss only kills the shield within a 2in radius
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Pascagoula is a city in Jackson County, Mississippi, United States. It is the principal city of the Pascagoula, Mississippi Metropolitan Statistical Area, as a part of the Gulfport–Biloxi–Pascagoula, Mississippi Combined Statistical Area. The population was 26,200 at the 2000 census. It is the county seat of Jackson County.[3]
Pascagoula is a major industrial city of Mississippi, along the Gulf Coast. Prior to World War II, the town was a sleepy fishing village of about 5,000. The population exploded with the war-driven shipbuilding industry. Although the city's population seemed to peak in the late 1970s and early 1980s as Cold War defense spending was at its height, Pascagoula experienced some new growth and development in the years before Hurricane Katrina. Today, Pascagoula is home to the state's largest employer, Ingalls Shipbuilding, owned by Huntington Ingalls Industries. Other major industries include one of the largest Chevron refineries in the country; Signal International, an oil platform builder; and Mississippi Phosphates.
Naval Station Pascagoula was located on Singing River Island, and was homeport to several Navy warships, as well as a large Coast Guard contingent. However, Naval Station Pascagoula was decommissioned as part of the 2005 BRAC recommendations and ceased operations in 2006.
The city is served by three airports: Mobile Regional Airport, which is located in nearby Mobile, Alabama; the Gulfport-Biloxi International Airport, about 40 miles (64 km) west of Pascagoula; and the Trent Lott International Airport, located within Jackson County.
The mayor of the city is Jim Blevins.
The name Pascagoula, which means "bread eater", is taken from a group of Native Americans found in villages along the Pascagoula River some distance above its mouth. Hernando De Soto seems to have made first contact with them in the 1540s, though little is known of that encounter. Pierre Le Moyne d'Iberville, founder of the colony of Louisiana, left a more detailed account from an expedition of this region in 1700. The first detailed account comes from Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne de Bienville, younger brother of Iberville, whom the Pascagoula visited at Fort Maurepas in present-day Ocean Springs, shortly after it was settled and while the older brother was away in France. There are few details that are certain about these peoples, except that their language seemed not to have shared an etymological root with the larger native groups to the north, the Choctaw particularly. Instead, their language seems more akin to that of the Biloxi or Natchez people, both of whom have been linked in this way to the Sioux, Crow, and Ho-Chunk. The territory of the Biloxi peoples seems to have ranged from the areas of what are now called Biloxi Bay to Bayou La Batre (Alabama) and twenty-five miles up the Pascagoula River, and then the Pascagoula people's territory seems to have ranged between some distance north of there to the confluence of the Leaf and Chickasawhay rivers.[4]
The first settlers of Pascagoula were Jean Baptiste Baudreau Dit Graveline, Joseph Simon De La Pointe and his aunt, the Madame Chaumont.
Local legend says the Pascagoula tribe chanted and waded hand-in-hand into the Pascagoula River, drowning together rather than become enslaved to or killed by an enemy tribe, the Biloxi. Thus, the legend of the "Singing River" was born. It is said that on still summer and autumn evenings, the sad song of the Pascagoulas can still be heard near the river.
The region changed hands over the next century, being occupied variously by the English, French, and Spanish until well after the American Revolutionary War. It did not come into the permanent possession of the United States until 1812, when it was added to the Mississippi Territory. At one point, for seventy-four days in 1810, Pascagoula was a part of what was known as The Republic of West Florida.[5] Pascagoula was incorporated as a village in 1892 and obtained city status in 1901. Today's downtown Pascagoula used to be the town of Scranton, Mississippi (incorporated in 1870) until the two towns merged in 1912.[6]
Pascagoula has been home or host to many notable people, including the pirate Jean Lafitte; the infamous Copeland Gang; "Old Hickory" Andrew Jackson; General (later President) Zachary Taylor; Confederate General and Congressman David Emanuel Twiggs; Union Admiral David Farragut; Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, who is said to have penned "The Building of a Ship" while in Pascagoula (although his stay is more local folklore than truth); and Nobel Laureate in literature William Faulkner who is believed to have written "Mosquitoes" while summering in Pascagoula.[citation needed] The Nite Riders, also got their start in Pascagoula in the 1950s. Many of the original members still perform together in local casinos.[citation needed]
Pascagoula gained notoriety on October 11, 1973 when two local fishermen, Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker, claimed to have been abducted by aliens from a Pascagoula pier. The media frenzy that followed touched off national interest in UFOs and extraterrestrials unparalleled since the Roswell incident. In 1983, Hickson wrote a book about his ordeal entitled UFO Contact In Pascagoula.[citation needed]
Pascagoula also gained national attention in the 1980s, when novelty singer/songwriter Ray Stevens featured the town in his hit, "Mississippi Squirrel Revival." Stevens admits, though, that the song could have been set in any Southern town but the name Pascagoula easily rhymed with the word, hallelujah, which is heard frequently in the song.
This is also the spot where a little girl was found thrown into the Dog River on Dec. 5, 1982. The girl, thought to be between 18 months and two years old, has never been identified to this day. The unidentified toddler is buried in Jackson County Memorial Park. Deputy Moore and his wife stepped forward and made sure the little girl was given a proper funeral and burial in 1982. Approximately 200 people attended the young girl's funeral.[7][8][9][10]
On August 29, 2005, Hurricane Katrina's 20-foot (6.1 m) storm surge devastated Pascagoula,[11] much like Biloxi and Gulfport and the rest of the Mississippi Gulf Coast.[12] Katrina came ashore during the high tide of 6:12AM, 2.1 ft (0.64 m) more.[13] Nearly 92% of Pascagoula was flooded. Most homes along Beach Boulevard were destroyed, and FEMA trailers are now an omnipresent sight. Due to the major media focus on the plight of New Orleans and Biloxi-Gulfport in the aftermath of Katrina, many Pascagoula citizens have expressed feeling neglected or even forgotten following the storm. Most Pascagoula residents did not possess flood insurance, and many were required to put their homes on pilings before being given a permit to rebuild. Additionally, TITANTubes (sometimes referred to as geotubes) were installed under the beach to serve as low profile dune cores to protect the evacuation route.
United States Navy officials announced that two Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers that were under construction at Northrop Grumman Ship Systems in Pascagoula had been damaged by the storm, as well as the Amphibious assault ship USS Makin Island.
Hurricane Katrina damaged over forty Mississippi libraries, flooding the Pascagoula Public Library, first floor, and causing mold in the building.[14]
The United States post office in Pasagoula contains a mural, Legend of the Singing River, painted in 1939 by Lorin Thompson. Murals were produced from 1934 to 1943 in the United States through the Section of Painting and Sculpture, later called the Section of Fine Arts, of the Treasury Department. The mural was restored in the 1960s as the building became the Pasagoula Public Library. The building was damaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the mural was placed in storage. In 2010, it was re-installed at the new Pascagoula post office on Jackson Avenue.[15]
Pascagoula is located along Mississippi Sound, at the mouth of the Pascagoula River. According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 18.2 square miles (47 km2), of which 15.2 square miles (39 km2) is land and 3.0 square miles (7.8 km2) (16.74%) is water.
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As of the census of 2000, there were 26,200 people, 9,878 households, and 6,726 families residing in the city. The population density was 1,726.4 people per square mile (666.4/km²). There were 10,931 housing units at an average density of 720.3 per square mile (278.0/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 67.15% White, 28.97% African American, 0.18% Native American, 0.97% Asian, 0.02% Pacific Islander, 1.67% from other races, and 1.04% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3.89% of the population. There were 9,878 households, of which 34.5% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 44.6% were married couples living together, 18.8% had a female householder with no husband present, and 31.9% were non-families. 27.0% of all households were made up of individuals and 9.7% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.52 and the average family size was 3.05.
In the city, the population was 26.9% under the age of 18, 12.0% from 18 to 24, 28.9% from 25 to 44, 20.4% from 45 to 64, and 11.9% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 33 years. For every 100 females there were 101.8 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 100.9 males. The median income for a household in the city was $32,042, and the median income for a family was $39,044. Males had a median income of $30,313 versus $22,594 for females. The per capita income for the city was $16,891. About 18.1% of families and 20.7% of the population were below the poverty line, including 31.4% of those under age 18 and 13.0% of those age 65 or over.
According to census 2010 Pascagoula has highest percentage of Puerto Ricans in Mississippi. Puerto Ricans make up nearly 5% of the city.
The Pascagoula-Gautier School District serves Pascagoula.
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In the 2004 film The Ladykillers, lead character Mrs. Munson mentions that her neighbor went down and bought a new stereo "at the Costco in Pascagoula".
Pascagoula appears in the video game Tom Clancy's EndWar as a possible battlefield. In the game, it became a key American oil refinery in 2016.[23]
Pascagoula is the setting for Ray Stevens' novelty song "Mississippi Squirrel Revival" that reached #20 on Hot Country Singles (now Hot Country Songs) chart in 1984.[citation needed]
Pascagoula is referenced in Hart of Dixie Season 2 Episode 10 Blue Christmas.[how?][citation needed]
Jimmy Buffett wrote and performs a song called "Pascagoula Run"
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Sprinkle baking soda liberally into the carpet where it leaked and beyond, then vacuum it the next day.
If that doesn't work, a good auto parts place should have some detailer's carpet shampoo that should be more effective.
This is a discussion on Getting rid of garbage smell within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; I took some garbage to the landfill this morning. Our township has a program where you can take up to 4 bags of trash each ...
I took some garbage to the landfill this morning. Our township has a program where you can take up to 4 bags of trash each Saturday for a $20 yearly fee. The two provisos are that you have to bring it yourself, and it's can only be on Saturday between 7-11am. Well this morning I loaded some trash into the back of my Xterra with those heavy duty black bags. I guess during the course of the trip a little bit of garbage juice (a CD sized spot) leaked onto my carpet. Now my Xterra smells like trash
Are there any home remedies for removing the smell? I cracked my windows and sprayed some Febreze but it didn't seem to help too well.
Thanks for the help!
Sprinkle baking soda liberally into the carpet where it leaked and beyond, then vacuum it the next day.
If that doesn't work, a good auto parts place should have some detailer's carpet shampoo that should be more effective.
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I was hoping someone would have "Dump some Hoppes in there" That stuff overpowers everything
Then Febrese.
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Odoban at Sams club, strong stuff should work for you
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One way that worked for me was to use some canned carpet cleaner on the spotted area, then vacuum up the residue, that should get the carpet clean. Now to get rid of the nasty smell, get a bottle of buck lure and dribble some of it inside the Xterra. You can even pour some into the heater vents, the blower will help spread the smell. I love the smell of buck lure in the morning !! Hope that helps.
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Do they make that in cologne too? I'm sure the ladies would swoon over the smell of doe urine
Shampoo the spot, and then put a packet of ground coffee in the car to absorb odor.
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I've been a big fan of Ozium. Walmart and Amazon have it. Do what Rock and Glock suggested; maybe what both Gasmitty and dV8r suggested too. Finish with Hoppes, just because this is DC.
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I like Spot Shot. My mom uses it back home for stains from the cats, and I keep a can in my place for general messes. It works like a charm.
It might have soaked through the carpet. Put a lot of baking soda under the spot area (even if it hasn't made it through yet).
It could be worse!
I suppose
I just ordered 10 of those, thanks Oakchas.
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I use baking soda every time I clean the car. After I vacuum the carpet it I spray it with Lysol. I do not like Febrese because the smell is too strong and it takes way too long time before it disappears.
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It's been suggested I compile the stories here in my blog and put them in a book. Seemed like an easy enough little project.
One year later, I finally have it done! The book will be novella sized and in a few years, I may have enough new stories to make another book—provided people actually buy the first one! We soon shall see.
I will order the proof to the book today and by next week I'll have it in my hot little hands, then I'll be able to decide if it's up to snuff. Then I'll continue to that nasty process of formatting for ebooks and promotion and so on and so forth.
While this process takes its course, I am looking for someone to write a nice little recommendation or review for the back cover. If you're interested in doing so… say if you've been a follower of my blog and want to give me some help… please let me know. I'll make sure you get a free signed print copy, and of course my undying gratitude.
Here's the cover. Hopefully by October the book will be ready to buy, and I think it would make a great Christmas present for anyone who grew up in the '60s, '70s, or comes from a rural or small-town background—or just enjoys positive stories about family.


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Lipless Crank Bait Time
As winter winds its way into the early spring/late winter time frame, on Guntersville, there is nothing like the lipless crank bait bite!
If you like to get bait knocked out of your hand and have your line stretched there is no better bite than working a lipless crank bait on Lake Guntersville. It can be, by far, the best time of the year and a time where anyone who can crank and reel can have some fun.
The great part about this time of year, on Guntersville, is that the milfoil and hydrilla are generally nothing but stubs on the bottom and working rattle bait over the short grass is easy. You don't get hung in most cases as you do later in the year in thick grass. The key to catching fish on lipless crank baits is creating a reaction bite and there are many ways to make that happen. If the grass is still a little thick then stroking your bait as it gets hung is a good way to get that reaction bite. I personally like yo-yoing the bait. Using that up and down presentation is just deadly, it catches fish and you will hang some big ones also.
Some important things to remember about lipless crank baits is they come in all sizes and colors, but on Guntersville there are a few colors that I really like, anything with red in it always works; I like gold and purples and blues also! Another thing is that there are many companies now that make some sort of rattle bait; I believe not all of them are created equal. Some folks believe that it is just flat bait with rattles in it; to me size, rattling and dropping speed in an upright position is big. No one builds a rattle bait like Spro they call them the Aruka Shad and their 75 size is just over a ½ oz. it is beautifully painted, makes a great sound, drops with a rattling upright position and catches fish.
Lipless crank baits are fun, they catch fish and anyone regardless of skill level can catch them on rattle baits!
Captain Mike


text: Broadchurch series two casts Eve Myles, Marianne Jean-Baptiste and James D'Arcy Pheobe Waller-Bridge will also be joining Charlotte Rampling, David Tennant and Olivia Colman when the second season of ITV's Bafta-winning murder mystery starts filming later this month Comments Written By Ellie Walker-Arnott 10:20 AM, 21 May 2014 The second series of Broadchurch is welcoming a host of new yet familiar faces to the golden cliffs of West Bay. As well as acting royalty Charlotte Rampling, who is set to play "an integral part of the new story", ITV's Bafta-winning mystery drama has cast Torchwood star Eve Myles, Without a Trace's Marianne Jean-Baptiste, as well as James D'Arcy and Pheobe Waller-Bridge. The new cast members, who will be appearing in currently unknown roles, will join returning stars David Tennant, Olivia Colman, Jodie Whittaker, Andrew Buchan and Arthur Darvill. Series creator Chris Chibnall said: "We're over the moon to have wooed Marianne back from Los Angeles to join us in Broadchurch. Marianne is one of Britain's finest actresses, so it's an honour and a coup for us. It's a role written specifically for her and I would've wept for months if she'd turned us down. Luckily she didn't and her character is going to make an indelible impact on the world of Broadchurch. "As if we didn't have enough fabulous actresses, it's a thrill to be joined by Wales' finest, Eve Myles," continued Chibnall. "Having worked together on Torchwood, it's a joy to be able to welcome her to Broadchurch." The creators also added that they were "privileged" and "lucky" to have Cloud Atlas' James D'Arcy and Bad Education's Pheobe Waller-Bridge on board. Broadchurch took home a hat trick of awards at Sunday night's Bafta TV ceremony in central London, winning best drama as well as best actress and best supporting actor, for Olivia Colman and David Bradley. Filming on Broadchurch series two will begin "later this month" in the "Dorset and North Somerset locations which have become intrinsically linked to Broadchurch." Follow @RadioTimes Like this? Share it. Facebook Twitter Google Tumblr Pinterest Blogger Reddit VKontakt Print Email


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Hafler DH-120 and 220 ?
Hi everyone,
Wanted an opinion on the sound quality and reliablity of the above amps. I can get them used for a reasonable price.
I'm currently using a Soundcraftsmen PM860 (looks like a shoebox shaped amp @ 205wpc). My pre-amp is a Rotel.
Are those amps comparable to sound quality of the souncraftsmen... better or worse?
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First-gen Genesis Coupe with the 2.0T. The power was surprisingly impressive for only being 200 bhp, but that transmission was just way too...how best to describe it?...clicky. Like there was no progression in shift movement or clutch engagement. It was on-or-off. Clutch slip was only possible in this 0.01% area of the entire clutch throw, and the shifter almost pulled itself into gear.
NSX. Not worth the price premium over an S2000, I didn't think.
In contrast, Viper SRT-10 did not disappoint
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Recently, I'd say the new Bimmer 328i with auto start/stop.
Come to a stop at a light and the whole car shakes violently. Hit the gas again and the DI engine rattles to life, sounding like an old diesel (new TDIs are much smoother).
Thankfully the feature can be disabled, but has BMW ever even SEEN a Prius?
The mere fact that a 3 series compares unfavorably to a Prius in any way, shape, or form, easily make it a huge disappointment.
The E60 M5 pissed me off. The car was fast as hell but that trans wasn't good for anything but WOT work.
E90 M3. Beautiful looks, but on the test drive when I pushed the pedal down I thought something was broken. Nope, just too low on the tach. The high end was fast, but not oh my gosh fast. Same power in a 930 feels like you're going to die at any moment -- and not just because you might!
For me it's a 2009+ Corolla LE.
My father used to have a '95 for a looooong time so when he decided to go and replace it with a new one, I was very interested to see how much Toyota would change in 15 yrs for the same car. Quite frankly, I didn't like it.
the interior is fantastically plastic with hard surfaces everywhere that scratch very very easily. The seats are comfy but not to the point where i'd like to sit in them on a daily basis. The engine is ok...but i think the added weight of the car made it feel as if the older and weaker '95 was still more powerful. sure the styling looks great (in my opinion at least) but i just wasnt sold on the weaker feeling engine and plastic interior.
Previously Owned: 2010 Kia Forte, 2010 JK Wrangler, 2007 Passat, 2003 Jetta, 2002 Jetta, 1992 Sentra, 1998 Dakota, 1990 Ford Ranger
The regular version with the 6-speed manual is much much much way better!!! A smaller displacement engine (WTF?) and Steptronic in the Alpina version = Fail. Actually, Clarkson nailed it on the TopGear review of this one.
When I first started to read through this thread, I couldn't think of anything that fit the bill. But then I thought some more.
1) NA Miata: I drove one of these for about 10 miles and I couldn't for the life of me find anything terribly spectacular about the car, other than the shifter. It's was just another small car without a top, in my opinion. It wasn't bad, but it didn't feel special from behind the wheel. Now, if I had it on a track or if I really pounded on it on a back road, maybe my impressions of the car would change. As it stands though, I have no real interest in ever acquiring one of these cars.
2) e46 M3: I still think these are amazingly good looking cars. But after my drive in one with an SMG, I didn't find it terribly compelling. If I wanted a higher end german performance car at a decent price (used anyway), I'd buy a Boxster, which I did have a blast in, even at 30 mph. Unless I was taking it to the track a decent amount, I'd probably rather have a 330.
3) Corrado SLC: I wasn't completely bowled over by the corrado in my signature during the first drive. I had built this car up to be something it clearly wasn't. I thought that compared with the VW Fox I was driving at the time, the difference in acceleration in all gears and at all rpms would be like, well, the difference in acceleration between the 215 hp crossfire I had and the 412 hp mustang I have. I still remember getting the corrado out on the highway and giving it some throttle in third and being thoroughly underwhelmed by the strength of the acceleration. It did better once the 300 lbs sales guy in the passenger seat wasn't in the car, but it still wasn't as speedy as I was expecting. But the car was mint, it had no mods, was very low mileage, I always wanted one and in black, with the speedlines, I just couldn't say no. 12 years later, I'm still getting it to where I want it to be, but I've had a ton of fun along the way.
So can one still be happy with a car that they once had on a pedestal, but were disappointed with when they finally got to drive one? Definitely. But I'm still not ever getting a miata!
I can think of a few more:
-B5 Audi A4. In stock form...yawn. When modded with an APR Stg3 kit, it was fast--but the chassis couldn't quite keep up (it had H&R coilovers, 17" wheels, etc).
-Saab 9-5. I really wanted to love my Saab. I respect the brand tremendously, and the car was an awesome long distance cruiser. But I found it dreadfully boring to drive daily, and the stock suspension was horrible. The rear shocks were leaking fluid when replaced at 50k miles, so no wonder. The upgrade I did made ride quality tolerable, but flinty over broken pavement--for not enough return in the handling department. Didn't think twice about sending it on its way after 4 years.
-2012 Subaru WRX. I wanted to like it so much more than I did, given how much I loved my FXT. But I found it crude, loud, and lacking quality. Disappointment.
-New Focus. I was really hoping this might be the car to replace the Prius. I was shocked at how little rear leg room there was in the hatch, and the 1G MyFord Touch system was abysmal--it crashed when I tried to pair my phone, requiring a full reboot; the system was terribly laggy when changing screens; the UI was totally inconsistent screen to screen, requiring WAY too much familiarization--I can't imagine trying to use it while moving. Then the drive was the final disappointment. The drivetrain was, well, awful. It never felt like 160hp, and the PowerShift transmission felt like it still had a year of development to go--clunking into gear, indecisive upshifts, reluctant downshifts. DSG isn't perfect by any stretch but it is light years ahead of that POS.
edit- Here's a pic of the new green. Hard to live with as a daily.
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The 2013 GS (non F-sport).. It was so damn boring. No steering feel, and it was slow...it just wallowed about. Not to mention the engine sounded like a four banger inside the cabin and got annoying fast.
e30 318is is the first to come to mind. friend had a well sorted one he did all the bushings, motor mounts, etc on.
car was just... meh.
any naturally aspirated miata falls in a similar category
I like Gecko Green. Great color for a vehicle like that. No need to be subtle.
Past: 1998 Accord V6 LX
2007 Mazdaspeed 3 (KIA 2-24-11)
2009 Mazdaspeed 3 (KIA 9-19-11)
2003 Jetta GLS 2.slow (good riddance)
Wasn't super impressed with the Porsche 928s4 I drove. It was a stick, too. Just.... no drama. Not that exciting. Still a nice car, I suppose.
Edit: 928, not 924.
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call it potatography
I got to drive a 2005 BMW 545i "M-Sport" once. Nice car, but I found the "adaptive" steering wonky.
The car wasn't new, but I guess I expected a bit more STi from it. The shifter felt like my Talon before the short shifter and brass bushings (read: absolute ****), the brakes felt worse than my Talon (Is that even possible?), and the handling felt a little Corolla like.
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Cincinnati-Virginia Tech Postgame Quotes
Sept. 29, 2012
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Cincinnati 27, No. 25 Virginia Tech 24
September 29, 2012
Postgame Quotes
Cincinnati Head Coach Butch Jones
Opening Statement:
"I think one adjective, resiliency. We had a number of individuals step up and make plays. We talked to our football team all week in mental conditioning and mental toughness it was going to take to play this football game. It was going to be a 60-minte game. Just the overall resiliency...We had some seniors step up and make plays. Obviously, [wide receiver] Damon Julian and everyone will remember obviously the great catch, but he really provided a spark for us in the second half and late into the second quarter. He did a great job. [Linebacker] Greg Blair, [linebacker] Maalik Bomar and then it's great to see all the work that all these young individuals have put in - like a [wide receiver] Kenbrell Thompkins today. I just thought that we were resilient all day. We had some type of food bug come down and the hotel and had about three or four guys that were sick. You look at [defensive lineman] Brandon Mills who really sucked it up, including our offensive coordinator. We didn't even think he was going to be able to be here at the game today. I just think it shows a lot - a lot of character. I will say that it's just one game. It's win number three. We still have a lot of work to do but I am extremely proud of all those young men in that locker room because they all believed right down until the final seconds. That's what it's about. You talk about championship character - they answered the call today. Virginia Tech was challenging us on every single snap, playing all Cover Zero Man and trying to get after us. I thought [quarterback] Munchie [Legaux] was a gritty performance. The mark of good quarterbacks is to be able to go on the road and lead your team to victory in the one-minute drill. He did that - one minute, forty-six [seconds] left, have to go the length of the field with no timeouts left. I think that speaks volumes about him as a leader. I hope that will propel him into next week against Miami of Ohio."
On if this was a breakout game for quarterback Munchi Legaux's confidence:
"I thought he did okay the first half. He had three dropped balls. I didn't think our receivers really helped him out. We had a deep ball that we dropped that could have been six. We had a drag route across the field that we didn't catch that could've been a big, big play. I think that anytime you go on the road and you lead a team, or even at home, in a one-minute situation and you win the football game, a lot of confidence can really be grown there. But also, I think in the matter in which it happened. We're playing a very, very talented Virginia Tech defense who didn't let us breathe. They're bringing internal pressure all day long - playing man three, playing cover zero. That's tough. But something is going to give when you do that, and obviously we made a play at the end. I do, I think it was a real gritty performance by him."
On the scoreboard not reflecting their statistics in the first half:
I thought that in the first half, we didn't make the critical plays that we needed to make.
On why he called the fake field goal play:
"Couple things - the hash that we were on, the distance. We had prepared for it all week long and we thought that we had it."
On celebrating the win by going into the stands:
"The people, the fans that made our trip and our band, that's something that's special to our football family. They are part of our football family. We win together and we lose together. We're all in this together - our administration, our fans, everyone, the city of Cincinnati. I thought we had great representation today. That's the thing that you think about when you make the decision on which field to defend. We wanted to make sure in the fourth quarter that we were going towards our fans. They were outstanding."
On if he regrets losing a timeout by challenging a play:
"No. I'd do it again. We knew we had to get the clock to a minute and twenty-two seconds to take a knee. We knew that if there was a challenge there, it brings up a critical down to win the football game. We're going to use every measure. I was standing right there. That's our motto - inches make the champion. Football is a game of inches and they just made it by inches. If I had to do it all over again, I'd still do it. We're a no-huddle offense. We work two-minute, one-minute offense every day."
On Legaux's last drive:
"Very calm, very poised. I though he was exceptionally poised all game. He just had that look in his eye. He had that moxie - that alpha male that we talk about that we want out of our quarterback. He was in the defensive huddle all day. He was just locked in, he was dialed in."
On if Legaux could have made the two-minute drive a month ago:
"I don't know. I'd say yes because I believe in him. But again, we took our off week and that's really one of the things we worked on was our one-minute offense. [On] Thursday, Wednesday we really honed in. I think more so was the mental makeup of our team. I told our kids that this is going to come down. There are going to be highs, there are going to be lows. Don't get caught in the peaks and the valleys. You need to snap and clear and everyone holds their rope. It may sound cliché-ish, but it really was. Our kids battled and found a way to win a football game."
On the atmosphere on the sideline after Virginia Tech scored the touchdown:
"Very calm. When you go back, it's almost like everything being in slow motion. You talk about football being a game of momentum, and that obviously was a game of momentum right at the end. And again, it takes resiliency. It takes mental toughness, mental conditioning for your players to not give in. Our players had absolutely no quit in them. They really believed, all 72 that made the trip, that we were going to win the football game."
On safeties Drew Frey and Arryn Chenault:
"Arryn could have went back in. I'll know more, obviously, tomorrow"
On the specific injury to Frey:
"He wouldn't have gone back in. But I'll know more about him...I want to say it's his leg but I'll know more. Everything happened all at once. We'll catch our breath and go back and reevaluate everything. That's the other thing, you're playing at the end of the game, you have both your backup safeties in. [Punt returner] Anthony McClung was sick, [defensive lineman] Brandon Mills was sick. I mean these kids were just resilient."
On this win propelling the team through the rest of the year:
"It's a credibility win. Virginia Tech is a very, very talented football team. I'm Coach Beamer's biggest fan. I told him I want to spend some time with him - the way he's built that thing. That's the way I envision us having it at Cincinnati. It's confidence. It's belief in how we play. It's belief in how we practice. It's belief in how we lift weights. I think the more you win, the more confidence [you build]. Now, we can't let complacency set in. Miami [of Ohio] becomes the most important game because it's the next game. I do believe to go on the road and beat a team like Virginia Tech from the ACC, that played in the ACC Championship last year, is a big win for us."
On the defense:
"They out-leveraged us a few times on the speed sweep, which we have to get corrected. But I thought we played extremely hard. [I] would like for us to force more turnovers. This is a resilient group and we have a lot of seniors stepping up. Maalik Bomar, [Greg] Blair, those two individuals really stepped up at the linebacker position. Nick Temple, Cam [Camerron] Cheatham, we knew we were going to be challenged. I can't say enough. Obviously Walter [Stewart], I talked about Brandon Mills and Dan Giordano.But also Jordan Stepp and Adam Dempsey and John Williams and Camaron Beard. Those individuals just keep fighting."
Cincinnati Linebacker Maalik Bomar
On whether Bomar had to step up and rally the younger players:
"No, not at all. I would say we all had that feeling that this is another opportunity; definitely, I didn't doubt anyone on that defense, we didn't doubt the offense. This program came together; I think this win definitely brought us together."
On whether he thought Greg Blair was playing better than usual:
"Yes, he's been playing well since we started the season. I saw that coming from camp. The kid has progressed practice after practice. So I don't expect anything less of him. It's been a great journey so far.
On whether he thought this was a big win for the program:
"Of course it is. I think, at the end of the day we know it's just about the Bearcats. We know that people doubt us. We like that. If anything that fuels our team. It's a wonderful feeling, just to have that overwhelming feeling. Nothing can match that.
On how some of the newer players react to a big win like this:
"We all act a little crazy. I thought it was a beautiful sight to see the young guys know what it really means to put out the hard work and grind, and what it takes to win. You know, winning is not easy. It comes down to four plays and you never know when those four plays may occur. Each play could be your last so you go hard. And the looks that I saw on the young guys faces... They came up to all the older guys and shook their hands, gave hugs and smiles, and they said thanks for teaching us the way. Literally work for it, that's what they said. That means a lot - that goes far as well.
Cincinnati Quarterback Munchie Legaux
On whether he always displays as much poise as today:
"Coach told me this week to be excited more. He told me when things go bad I have the same calm face as when things go good. I try to just be cool, calm, and collected. I don't want to get too excited and I don't want to get too down. I just try to keep a level head. Throughout the game I kept keeping my teammates up. I kept telling those guys it's okay, just put a smile on your face, no matter what. Win or loss, just put a smile on your face. We're gonna have adversity, we're gonna be down. Coming into this game, we knew that we were going to have to handle adversity against a big team like this."
On his team's reaction after the win:
"One of the main things we said going into the week, was after the win; we were going to act like we've been there. But at the same time, we had a game winning catch at the last minute. And that's something that's never happened for us. A lot of guys were excited, and I was excited also, but at the same time, we have to put this behind us and move on to next week. We can't hope and preach on this win. Virginia Tech was a great team, and I just want to give thanks to my offensive lineman, the coaching staff, my receivers and running backs, and also defense. They did a tremendous job against a guy like Logan Thomas, whose going to be a potential NFL quarterback one day. I just want to give hats off to my teammates."
On whether he takes it upon himself to prove that he is a potential NFL QB too:
"A lot of guys came up to me and told me: "this is your time to shine, to show the world," I took that and played with a chip on my shoulder that he had all the hype. But he's a great quarterback, I just wanted to go out and show the world I can do the same things, and my team did a great job of helping me out. I didn't do it all by myself, it was the offensive lineman in the trenches, it was the receivers making plays, and also the running backs making plays and blocking.
Cincinnati Wide Receiver Damon Julian
On whether the game winning play was designed for him:
"Actually, the play was really designed for both outside receivers, but he [Legaux] took a shot at me, and I made the play."
On where tonight's game-winner ranks among his career catches:
"It might be number one right now. I don't think I have won a game by making a big catch like that."
On the adverse feelings after Virginia Tech took the lead with less than two minutes left:
"Well, in practice, coach [Jones] has pushed us in a lot of adverse situations. So we were prepared for it. We knew he had one more drive whether they scored or not. So that was our mentality."
Cincinnati Running Back Ralph David Abernathy IV
On how he thought Munchie Legaux stepped up as the game went on:
"That's what we see out of Munchie every day in practice. It doesn't surprise me at all that Munchie went out there and played a great game. That's the Munchie that we get to see every day. That's the player that I know."
On how it felt to finally break away after being contained for much of the second half:
"You're not going to come out and be able to come out and make big play after big play like that. But it was great to make a play that helped us win the game. I mean that's all I'm here to do, to make sure that we get the win. I do whatever I can."
On whether it's his job to make huge plays:
"I take it as an opportunity and a blessing that the coaches think that it's my job and that the team thinks it's my job to make big plays and be that big play guy. It's just really a blessing and an opportunity to be here."
On whether he thought anyone would catch him after catching the ball from Legaux:
"No not really, once I made that move I looked, I saw the corner - the back side corner - he was kind of far away and I really didn't think he was going to catch me."
Cincinnati Wide Receiver Kenbrell Thompkins
On whether he did anything different during his career game tonight:
"I just knew that we were going to face man coverage. All week in practice coach [Jones] said, "Win the one-on-one matchups and we'll win the ball game." So, I just went out there and played football. I wasn't really worrying about the crowd or anything like that, I just went out there and did my job."
On Munchie's frequently completed passes to his back-shoulder:
"That's something that we talk about. The defender on the high side of me expects back shoulder throws, and that's something that we work at practice every single day and he [Legaux] made some great throws."
On how they have developed the timing of the back-shoulder throw:
"It's actually just timing and getting a feel for each other. We run routes a lot and everything like that, and he knows exactly when to throw a back-shoulder and I know exactly when has going to throw a back-shoulder. It's basically just understanding the mindset of both players."
On how he rates Munchie Legaux's performance:
To be honest, I think Munchie did a great job. He trusted in his wide receivers, he depended on his offensive line, and when we came to the side line he talked to us and just told us to keep our heads up, and that's one thing we do as an offense. We trust Munchie, I can tell you that much, we definitely do trust Munchie and his leadership role, stepping up every day."
Virginia Tech Head Coach Frank Beamer
Opening Statement:
"That was a tough one. I think Cincinnati is a really good football team and they are a Top-10 program. I thought we had it a couple of times and then didn't have it. I thought they made some great plays and we helped them a little bit. But that is the way it is. We have our conference to look forward to and we have to get past this one and move on. We have to learn from what took place. I thought [RB Michael] Homes really starting running in the second half and that was a good sign to see. There were some positive things there. Our offense really got moving in the second half. There are some positive things out of this but this is just a tough way to lose. But give them credit"
On the offense's play in the first half:
"I thought we just played good defense."
On the defensive backs play:
"The first long pass there was a freshman kid that didn't pick up the back out of the backfield. The second one was a guy that usually makes that play when we are good coverage. It is what it is so we have to move on."
On the end of the game:
"I give Cincinnati credit. It didn't look good for them but they came back and had a couple of great plays."
On CB Kyle Fuller's play at the end of the game:
"That's deep half coverage. We had a single receiver deep. We were in a good coverage but need to make the play."
On the offense's slow start:
"What I look at is the fact that we got better as an offense. I thought we made some plays and sharpened in the second half. I'm going to take that and go on that."
On the offense's preparation:
"We prepared hard, our players did and our coaches did. I think we did a good job coaching at the game. We came up with a couple of things that hurt them in second half. I credit our coaches for that."
On going for the touchdown before halftime:
"It was fourth and one and we need to be able to make that. The way the field position had been in the first half, to go into the locker room, seven to six, that was a good deal."
On CB Antone Exum's play:
"I think Exum did a good job most of the night. We had him isolated out there and he hung in there pretty good."
On the offense's play:
"I think you have to take what we did well. I think there were some good things defensively and offensively and learn from the things we did bad and didn't execute. We have to move on to the next game. For us, we are still one up on our side in the division in the ACC. We have all the ACC games to play right now. We need to take all of these non-conference games and learn from them because I still think we are a developing football team. I was so glad to see Holmes start running in the second half. I think he came into his own tonight. I think [TB J.C.] Coleman made a couple of plays. I am going to build on that."
On this game being a measuring stick for the season:
"We had a great opportunity to win the football game but we didn't quite get it done. To beat a good football team like Cincinnati [would have been great] and we had the opportunity to do that. I think we did some good things tonight."
Virginia Tech Quarterback Coach Mike O'Cain
On going into the second half:
"We had the ball. We got first downs and once you get the first downs you're allowed to do more things. We did do a few different things. We got the ball in the corner a little bit more in the beginning of the second half. We had some success there, but we had the opportunity to do it because we were getting some first downs. Not the same plays, but similar plays over and over again. In the first half, we got nothing on the first down."
On the crossing route play with quarterback Logan Thomas:
"We called that play earlier and it was the series before or the series before that where Logan threw the ball to the tight end in the flat near our sidelines. We brought Logan back and the linebacker kind of got caught under the crossing route which is what we ran the first time. I told him if you could hold it a little bit longer, I think you had [split end] Corey [Fuller] coming in the crossing route. Fortunately, he didn't have to hold it longer. They opened up pretty quickly as they were getting the ball to him pretty quickly. It was something we felt like coming into the game. They played some man coverage and like to press our receivers outside, if you all were paying attention. They were up in our face all night long. It felt like we had to get some things across the field and tried a couple of other times. I think we threw in the first half, where the ball hit Corey in the chest and as he hit the ground the ball came out, I guess. Again, we had the ball enough to make things happen."
On the loss:
"It hurts. Any loss hurts, but those that you lose probably in the last second hurts you more. Not that you ever want to get beat badly like we did in Pittsburgh, but those games where you look back and think if I just had done this, the game would have been different. They wore our butts out and you had to have done a lot of things differently to win that ball game. This one sticks with you more."
Virginia Tech Quarterback Logan Thomas
On Virginia Tech taking a crushing loss:
"It's a tough loss to take. You thought you had the game wrapped up, nothing like that should happen and you take a loss that you shouldn't have. We have our own self to blame, so we cant hang our head; just have to be ready to go next week."
On Virginia Tech not being able to move the ball in the first quarters:
"No I can't point any fingers; we have to figure it out soon."
On what went wrong in the first half:
"Well we had a third and short and couldn't get a push to get a first down on one, and we were backed up on our goal posts so our playbook was limited. It was just a couple things but all in all we should've executed. "
On whether he had a bad feeling on the sideline watching the last possession:
"No, not at all. I have complete confidence in our guys. We knew we had to give up a touchdown for them to win it and we were in the right defense, we just didn't make a play."
On confidence during the second half:
"Things just started to open up. We started to wear them down and things started to get open for us down field and their pass rush slowed down which was good for us."
On Virginia Tech being better in the fourth quarter and calling the plays:
"We weren't in two minute drill at all today. Coach O'Cain was just calling from the sideline and I guess I just got into a groove and everything looked wide open. It worked for us. We just need to play like that every game, every play. If we do we will be extremely tough to stop. It seems like I keep saying the same thing every week."
On Virginia Tech still having the ACC portion of their schedule to go:
"We are still one up in the ACC with one coming up next week. We still have a long way to go in the season. We just have to keep getting better day by day and week by week. You know we took a loss today that shouldn't have happened but it will give a kick start going into ACC play."
On throwing the ball high:
"It is a mixture of things. Sometimes being hit, sometimes it is just planting feet so it is a mixture of things."
On the team coming out strong and what it will take to get Virginia Tech going:
"Well we will get it going; we don't have to worry about that. We have made a couple of mistakes in every game in the first couple quarters but we get strong."
On things going wrong and how it is frustrating for the team:
"It is extremely frustrating. Just because you know you are one thing away from the play you want, the big game you want, the first down you want. It makes is that tough on you and hopefully we get those one things corrected."
Virginia Tech Split End Marcus Davis
On Virginia Tech's slow start:
"I don't really attribute it to one thing; it is just something we have been struggling with all year. It is something we work on each week in practice. It is up to me being a senior to try and get the guys up. We have to start Monday on improving it in practice, and that is the only way it will carry over to Saturday."
On Virginia Tech's quarterback missing open players:
"It is true but I don't know what his reads were, I was just so into the game that it was kind of getting to me. It was one of those things I had to forget about and go onto the next play or the next series. At the time I was a little upset but at the same time I was showing passion for the game."
On Virginia Tech's troubling slow starts after five games into the season:
"It is troubling but it is just something that we have to continue to work on. We know as an offense what we can do, we just have to do it every play, every single drive."
On Virginia Tech's loss at the end:
"You never really think of things like that, you always see it on tv or you see it in movies, or something like that and you just don't want to be that team. The feeling inside of you is unreal but it happens. We give credit to them [Cincinnati]."
On the finish of the game:
"I wasn't. I was expecting a dog fight and that is what it was. They just made one more play than we made. All credit to them [Cincinnati]"
On Virginia Tech chance of winning after their final touchdown:
"I did. I got all the confidence in our defense. Like I said, all credit to them, they made a good play; coach [Mike Bajakian] made a good call for them and they scored in the final minute."
On Virginia Tech offense:
"I makes me feel bad because, you know, I am a part of that. So me, especially being a senior at receiver, you got to do something that will spark, bring some energy, a little life to the offense. I don't know what it was like I said it is something that we have to work on. We have to get the ball out in the air a little earlier because these slow starts are really hurting us. It is something we will change and focus on Monday and see how it goes next Saturday."
Virginia Tech Linebacker Jack Tyler
On the performance of the secondary:
"It was just one of those things where we didn't make enough big plays. They made a couple of big plays towards the end. We just didn't have what it took. That last play, he made a heck of a catch. Obviously you would like to have somebody there contesting it. Our secondary is good. We just had a few letdowns. We're young back there and switched a few things up, but some of the things we tried to eliminate we just didn't get done."
On Cincinnati's final play:
"That is obviously the one play that really got us down. Like I said, it was just another letdown by the defense. We weren't doing the right assignment. [There is] nothing much more to say than that. I thought we were right there and I thought we even got to them a little bit. We even bumped him. He just made a heck of a throw and a heck of a catch. That will happen. Just after that nice catch by [split end] Corey [Fuller] we thought we had it. With how our defense played all game we thought this is our time and we are going to make a stop here and it would be over. We just didn't get it done."
On the loss:
"I don't know if it sets us back at all, but it feels a lot like the JMU loss that we lost our second game of the season. We have a ton of games left. We've had one ACC game and we won that game so a lot of our goals are still there. We just have to keep improving and keep getting better in practice. We'll be fine. The fact that we can get back on the horse and we can keep getting wins and play well, that's really the only thing. How much we have to look forward to the rest of the season and the ACC games."
Virginia Tech Cornerback Kyle Fuller
On cornerback Donaldven Manning's performance:
"I went down and the others had to come in, but that just shows that everybody has to be ready, no matter what. I thought he was ready, but he is a freshman. I think they went at him, but that doesn't matter."
On Cincinnati's last play:
"I just made a big mistake and let the receiver get behind me. We knew coming in that he was a good receiver."
On the loss:
"It's really, really hard. Like I said, I take responsibility. You can say that there [are] plenty of plays that changed the outcome of the game, but I put it on myself and all you can do is learn from them."
Virginia Tech Linebacker Bruce Taylor
On the loss:
"It's always tough. We played with pretty good effort throughout the whole game, except for a few big plays we gave up. That is still unacceptable. We have got to come out on every play focused like it's your last play and we gave up a few big plays. That was the difference in the ball game."
On the team's performance:
"Everybody is enthusiastic flying around out there, but at the same time your mind has to be in the same place where your feet are going. It was very up and down. We gave up a touchdown and then we got a touchdown back so we were all hype to go back out there. We were doing a good job, but they hit us with a good play. The quarterback threw a good ball and the guy made a hell of a catch."
On Cincinnati's last play:
"I was in the flats in the opposite side of the field. I was more watching the play than actually being involved in it. It is just heartbreaking when you come out and play hard the whole game, except for a few plays."


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Florida's first win over Tennessee in three years probably secured the Gators a berth in the NCAA tournament for the first time since 2007.
Chandler Parsons scored 19 points, Erving Walker broke out of a shooting slump and Florida beat the 19th-ranked Volunteers 75-62 on Tuesday night.
Walker also finished with 19 points, 14 in the second half. Vernon Macklin added 13 points and 10 rebounds for the Gators, who have won three in row. The Gators used a 27-6 run - highlighted by four 3-pointers and a bunch of points in the paint - to turn a close game into a lopsided affair. The victory snapped Tennessee's six-game winning streak in the series and gave Florida's NCAA tournament resume a much-needed boost.
The Gators (20-8, 9-4 Southeastern Conference) won for the fourth time in the last 15 meetings and jumped the Volunteers (20-7, 8-5) for third in the Eastern Division. More importantly, Florida probably secured a spot in the NCAA field for the first time in three years. Florida, whose RPI is 54 and whose strength of schedule is 71, improved to 3-6 against teams in the RPI's top 50.
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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- After a freshman campaign that saw her finish second on the team in total kills, and first in kills per set, Jamie Lea returns at outside hitter for Tennessee.
Lea, from Efland, North Carolina, started in every match she appeared in last season. She finished the year with 281 kills, bringing her team-leading kills per set average to 2.99. Lea also had three games of 20 kills or more and earned a spot on the All-Tournament Team at the Country Inns & Suites Invitational after averaging just under 17 kills per match in four Volunteer victories.


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PALM SPRINGS, Calif. - According to people who live in the area, a piece of land at a prominent corner in Palm Springs has for some time now been a homeless encampment.
City records show the property is owned by the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
After receiving complaints, the Palm Springs Police Department cleared the encampment on Thursday while at the same time a crew began cleaning up the property.
"I get up this morning to do my recycling, and I see this, they're clearing us out."
Fifty-eight-year-old Clarise Aguiar-Kuinus was referring to how she was greeted by a demolition crew clearing two vacant 4-acre parcels at the corner of Sunrise Way and Tahquitz Canyon Way.
Aguiar-Kuinus says she and her husband have been homeless for two years and admits for the last year they've been living with other homeless people on the property.
The problem -- they've been camping on the property illegally.
"We confirmed that individuals were there unlawfully," said Palm Springs Police Sgt. Harvey Reed. "They did not have permission from the landowner to be there and do not have a permit from the office of the chief of police to be there."
While Aguiar-Kuinus didn't indicate she had been cited, the police department says it cited three of the people it found living on the property for violation of municipal code, but only after they refused to pull up stakes and get their belongings off the property.
"One of those individuals left on their own accord, which is the way we like to approach these complaints -- to get voluntary compliance," said Reed. "If the person refuses to leave, then the officer will take enforcement action."
Michael Smith lives right across the street from where the demolition crew was at work. Although he says he feels sorry for people who don't have a roof over their head, he's happy to see the homeless encampment go.
"There's no health facilities, no sanitation -- so it becomes an issue not only for them and their well-being, but for people who are here, because we do get blowing bags and things like that," said Smith.
Aguiar-Kuinus says she realizes the law is the law, yet at the same time it's not easy not knowing where you're going to spend the night.
"We have nowhere to go. We need a place to stay, a place that we can all a little home -- a camp."
After we reached out to the Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians to see if they own the land, tribal spokeswoman Kate Anderson released this statement to News Channel 3 -- CBS Local 2. "The land is held in trust for an individual allotted tribal member and the activity taking place there now is being done under the auspices of the BIA on behalf of the allottee."


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The top-ranked American, who has not played since March, would awake from a deep sleep with his heart racing, a condition doctors described as a form of arrhythmia, the report in USA today said.
Fish, 30, pulled out of the French Open last week because of what organisers termed fatigue but, according to USA Today, he said he had corrective medical procedure performed last week.
"It felt like my heart was going to jump out of my chest," Fish, who has not played since March, told the USA Today in a phone interview from his Los Angeles home.
"During days, I'm totally fine. ... But every time I would go to bed my mind would start racing. Is this going to happen tonight? Is this going to be another night like that? It was super hard to go to sleep."
Fish, who said the first episode occurred prior to a Davis Cup win over Switzerland's Stanislas Wawrinka in mid-February, expects to resume light training this week with an eye on making a return at Wimbledon or the Queen's Club warm-up event.
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I do enjoy the TR site and I check it almost everyday but this has really got under my skin!
You have given a set of headphones that cost the best part of 1k 10/10!? I could understand a 10 if it scored a 10 in every category but it didn't!
We're forever hearing from you guys how every apple product is over priced and that's what let's the product down! And that can be said for most products that fall short of a 10 due to price! There's just no consistency guys!
Hi Chris,
It was awarded on the basis that we think they're the best in their class - even if it is a somewhat ridiculous class for most people's needs.
When reviewing high-end audio products there is inevitably some level of disconnect from the concept of value in the pure "factor X per £" sense, as there's no great way to benchmark headphones in the way you might a laptop. Frequency response graphs are useful, but they don't always relay what a pair of headphones is actually like to listen to. Yet, this factor is the most important in any headphone review. To attribute a perfect level of value to what is a very subjective reaction to sound quality requires a bit more ego than I'm packing.
I can tell you that I think they're better than X and Y, and that they're super-duper-awesome, but caring that much about sound quality is an expensive disease. And if everyone caught it, the Western World would quite possibly collapse. That 7/10 score is there for the good of humanity. Because we don't really want you to sell your kids. We want people who are considering buying expensive headphones to put the HD 800 on their "100% must audition" list.
Hope that makes some sense. Thanks!
Hi Andrew, thanks for your response.
I can see what you're saying but it kind of backs up what I'm saying. You say that they are best in their class (high end headphones) and that's why they got a ten. So why doesn't a MacBook Pro get a ten? There is nothing on the Market that competes with a MacBook pro and the argument to why it doesn't score a ten would be down to the value would it not? Agreed that you could buy a more powerfull laptop with a better graphics card in but overall, build quality, design and the OS is second to none so on that basis, it should score a ten.
I hope you can see where I'm coming from? :S
It's not quite the same - it would kinda be the same if the Macbook Pro also has better CPU performance and GPU performance than it's competitors, but it doesn't. These are still very important factors in any laptop review. It's not quite as simple as saying Mac OS beats Windows 7 either. While Mac OS is great, Windows 7 isn't a chump and software support (esp for games) is much better. Yes you can install Windows on a Mac but that's another thing altogether...
The primary stand-out feature of a Macbook Pro is its gorgeous design (an opinion!) where the primary stand-out feature of the Sennheiser HD 800 headphones is their performance.
It's still a conundrum though - bringing Apple into it complicates things because the Macbook Pro is something of an aberration within the laptop market where the Sennys sit among their peers more comfortably.
Ahh now we're getting caught up in details :) I just talking about how you guys review products.
I used a MacBook Pro as a example because in the review, it scored two tens, two nines and a 8 for value (I believe) and it only got a 9/10. The cons said "pricey" so I'm assuming that's why it got a nine instead of a ten?
The Sennys got a seven for value and an eight in design and still managed to get a ten! Also, price wasn't even mentioned in the cons!
I don't want to get caught up in a debate about apple products, I'm just a bit lost to why the Sennys managed a 10/10?
If the review of the Sennys is anything to go by, a different product that scores a 2/10 for something could still go on to have an overall score of 10/10?
Oh and the "stand-out feature" for the MacBook Pro wasn't just it's design, it scored a ten for performance too ;) But that's another discussion......
In my mind, it's a case of how the two markets work - expensive headphones and expensive laptops are very different things. There is no way to make £1000 headphones categorically worth the money. Most people who buy headphones at this level would rather have more money spent on the speaker quality than accessories like extra cables, adaptors and so on. If this pair of headphones was made of some (sonically inert) semi-precious metal that would actually be bad value in a headphone sense - because it would mean the £1000 was going towards this flamboyance rather than sound quality. Bizarrely, high-end headphones can seem to be better value the simpler and more austere they are. Grado's top-end headphones come in cardboard boxes, for example.
Right, I'll put it another way...
AKG Q701 Review. Same style as the Sennys. Price £365, value 9/10, sound quality 10/10!!!, design and features 9/10. Overall score 9/10!!! The score better than the Sennys throughout but get a lower overall?
My take... Different reviewer = different scores.
The overall score isn't an average of the other scores. When in doubt, it's better to read the text rather than obsess too much over the logic of the numbers, which are by their nature reductive (if mighty useful when doing some quick research into the goodies and not-so-goodies).
I didn't review the Q701s myself - although we all tend to check out new headphones when they come in - but the comparison to the cheaper K701s and K702s would hold me back from a top score there.
On great issue with this review is say that anything on here is plastic when it clearly says the contrary everywhere; including on Sennheisers packaging, website and the nice manuals included in the box. What the parts are made that are important for dampening and killing sound (structural parts) is a special complex product more advanced but sorta like carbon-fiber parts. Plastic like metal etc. simply can't produce acoustic "dead" parts needed for this type of headphone so its physically impossible for products with these requirements to have anything to do with plastics. Thats why wood are often use as it will at-least distort sound signatures in a pleasant way. Why Grado and others intentionally have products with metal is still confusing to me and other industry people - I've had listening sessions with all the high-end models and own quite a few so I can confirm that still doesn't make sense compared to other higher-end intentionally colored products like Grado. I'm Gamerphile on head-fi.org BTW.
I own a pair of HD 800 and use it as my main/normal use headphone due to the non-colored, great stage and great but neutral bass. Have Headroom UDDAC+BUDA+DPS setup with HD 800 in balanced mode on original cables as can be read about on Head-Fi.org
Some folks might still be slightly surprised by the plastic outers though, was my thinking. We actually spent a while in the office trying to work out what each outer part was made of. You're right about the importance of the inner sonically "dead" parts though. We do seem to agree about the sound, mind, which is the most important bit :)
I'm sure I would love these, hell I would love to listen for an hour on any reference-class headphones. However I decided that if I ever buy a pair, it will most probably be AKG K3003, for their inconspicuousness and comfort of wearing outside.
Maybe they deserve a 10/10 overall because they offer more than any other headphone on the market?
I saw the other day that one of my favorite audiophile albums, After Silence, by the master Trumpet player Andre Heuvelman, is mixed and mastered with the HD800.
I have been listening to the album for month and enjoying it tremendously, unknowingly that mixing was done partly on the HD800.
No wonder it sounds so good on my pair.
Also says a lot about the quality of the HD800 that a top audiophile boutique label as Sound Liaison actually mix on the Sennheisers.
The album is available as 24/96 studio master download at the Sound Liaison site,
and there, on the site they describe in detail how the album was made, very interesting recording philosophy.
from the Sound Liaison site;
Main system: Schoeps MK5 AB
Spot mic's: Neumann KM84, Neumann TLM170, Neumann U47, Van Medevoort C1000
Micpre's: RME Micstacy (Analog > MADI)
Microphone cables: Grimm Audio TPR
Master clock: Grimm Audio CC1
Mixing headphones: Sennheiser HD800
Mixing speakers: Grimm Audio LS1
Recording and mixing - Frans de Rond[/qoute]
The same goes for the Batik album; 'The Old Man and the Sea'' (Sound Liaison)
That album is also mixed with the Sennheiser HD800.
Google it and you will see that both albums are creating quiet a stir on the Audiophile forums.
I would say that the HD800's are the quickest and cheapest way to an audiophile experience.
I've been looking for a closed back headphone equivalent to the HD800 and based on auditions so far it looks like the Final Audio Design Pandora VI is the only headphone that comes close (it's also £450 less than the HD800!).
The hybrid driver technology of the Pandora VI gives a pretty amazing all around the head experience that I've never heard from headphones before. Definitely worth an audition.
But is it worth buying closed-back cans at that price? The "microscopic details" will be largely missing outdoors anyway (presuming you're looking for closed back headphones at that price because you intend to use them outdoors)
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