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Pablo Montoya
Pablo Montoya (also known as Jose Pablo Montoya) (January 7, 1816 - February 7, 1847 [1]) was a New Mexican politician who was active both in the 1837 revolt against the Mexican government, and in the Taos Revolt of 1847 against the United States, during the Mexican-American War.
Early life and education[edit]
Jose Pablo Montoya was born January 7, 1816, the son of Andres Montoya and Victoria Velarde.[2]
Marriage and family[edit]
He married Maria Teresa Esquevel and they had established a family in present-day Taos, New Mexico.[3] He was likely a landowner and rancher.
At some point Montoya was the mayor of Taos. In 1837 he was part of the New Mexican revolt against the Mexican government.[4] In September of that year he led an army of 3000 rebels to within a league and a half of Santa Fe, where he arranged a truce with Gen. Manuel Armijo. He secured his personal immunity by turning over the planners of the rebellion, who were jailed in Santa Fe and later executed by Armijo's forces. Montoya was allowed to return to his home.[5]
In January 1847 Montoya participated in the insurrection against United States rule in New Mexico, begun by those who did not accept the Mexican governor's surrender.[6] Historian David Lavender said that Montoya "style[d] himself as the Santa Anna of the North."[7]
Montoya was captured during the 1847 revolt. After the US had re-established control, a US military court charged him with and convicted him of treason. The judges sentenced him and 14 other men to death for their roles in the revolt. Montoya and the others were hanged in the central plaza of Taos on April 6, 1847.
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- Pablo Montoya is featured as one of the protagonists in Maxwell Anderson's 1932 play Night Over Taos.
- ^ Durand, John, ''The Taos Massacres'', Puzzlebox Press, Elkhorn, WI 2004, p. 266
- ^ Karen Mitchell, coordinator, "Taos County, New Mexico", New Mexico GenWeb Project
- ^ Karen Mitchell, "Taos Revolt", Taos County, New Mexico, New Mexico GenWeb Project
- ^ Grant, Blanche C., When Old Trails Were New: The Story of Taos, Glorieta, New Mexico: The Rio Grande Press, Inc., 193, reprint of 1932 edition, p. 88
- ^ New Mexico History
- ^ Grant, Blanche C., When Old trails Were New: The Story of Taos, Glorieta, New Mexico: The Rio Grande Press, Inc., 1933, reprint of 1932 edition, p. 88
- ^ Lavender, David, Bent's Fort, Garden City, NY: Doubleday and Company, Inc., 1954, p. 281

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Nazareth barely snuck into the tournament, snatching the final Pool C bid and even more questionably, hosting Wednesday's contest. Led by C.J. Estes (23, 20) and Joe Jacobs-Ferderbar (33, 20), the Golden Flyers are a battle-tested team but have dropped three games by 10+ goals. They will need their best to knock off Liberty League champion Union. However, a hot goalie can change everything and the Dutchmen have one of the best in Division III in Sean Aaron. The junior is stopping an impressive 62% of shots faced while allowing 6.92 goals a game. He'll be the difference-maker in Wednesday's first-round showdown. I'll take Union by two goals.
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This one will be closer than people think; Amherst is certainly on upset alert. The Lord Jeffs have a remarkable attack that boasts Devin Acton, Cole Cherney and Evan Redwood but could struggle at the midfield because of injuries. On the other end, Keene could exploit a close defense that is slightly more than mediocre if they're smart with their shot selection. Keene's certainly got the scorers, boasting Griffin Meehan (61, 25) and Matt Schairer (45, 25), but they'll face Sam Jakimo, a junior who has turned away 65% of shots faced and is underrated. It'll be pretty tight for a while, but Amherst pulls away in the second half to win by four.
The ninth time these two NCAC foes have clashed in the playoffs, this showdown between Ohio schools should be intriguing considering the familiarity with each other. Denison took the regular-season matchup, 12-6, but on paper, both teams are even. OWU hasn't fallen since that loss on April 2 and have gotten excellent play from its youth on offense and its goalie, Stephen Ford, who is allowing just 6.3 goals per game. Denison has tons of experience on the offensive end, namely Tanner Smith and Emmett Jones, two complete players that pave the way for the Big Red. I'll take Denison in overtime.
Perhaps the most intriguing first-round matchup and a rematch from nine weeks ago, the Pilgrim champion will take on in-state rival and CCC victor Endicott. The host Power Gulls notched a 9-6 victory over the Pride earlier this year. The battle to watch will be at the face-off X, where Springfield's Mark Eaton (162-240, 67.5%) will take on Sam Ozycz (284-433, 66%) to get their respective team's possessions. As always, both teams have made up for a slightly weak conference slate by scheduling NESCAC teams, so this will be a fight that could be decided at the very end. Endicott by a pair of goals; the winner heads down to mighty Salisbury.
Yet another postseason rematch, the Tigers host the high-octane Bulldogs in the play-in between Pool B programs. A young Adrian squad (five of six leading scorers are underclassmen) will look to knock off Wittenberg, which has seemingly come out of nowhere to burst into the national rankings. Wittenberg packs a serious punch at attack between Matt Lord (33, 18) and Brady Christensen (24, 17), while Adrian has been known to put the ball in the back of the net as well. The Tigers took this one earlier in the season, 16-9. I'll predict they top Adrian by four.
Both Pennsylvania squads struggled this year but managed to get a bid, with Scranton weathering the storm and topping Goucher in the Landmark final and Gettysburg surprising many by getting a Pool C bid. Scranton will need huge play from goalie Ben Worthington to halt the Bullets' vaunted midfield, namely seniors JC Ward (24, 17) and Danno Lynch (24, 8). Gettysburg also has a stout D, which should lock down Scranton's top scoring threat Taylor Nelson (31, 11). In eight attempts, Scranton has never knocked off G'burg, I don't think we'll see anything new in the Royals' first NCAA tournament appearance. Bullets by 8.
On paper, it looks like a good game — a team from the West with the top defense statistically in the country heading to Roanoke, a team known to score in bunches. The Tigers are one of just two undefeated teams in the tournament, but that says more about their schedule than their caliber, although they are a balanced, well-coached team led by complete attackman Carson Christman (60 pts). Roanoke, while slightly underperforming this year, has a remarkable offense, especially with Trey Keeley (24, 26) returning from suspension. Richard Lachlan (43, 9) is one of the most proficient offensive players around, while Alex Burkhead is a standout defenseman that leads an inexperienced backline. The Maroons should overwhelm the Tigers by nearly a dozen.
The Widener Pride, MAC champions, won't travel too far in suburban Philly to face Cabrini in the play-in and an opportunity to play Stevenson on Saturday. Paced by senior Paul Skulski (27, 38), the Cavaliers have struggled against superior competition, with just one win over any team that has been in the top 25 all year. Widener has benefited from a fairly weak conference but its only losses are to top-five teams: Cortland (a 13-0 decision) and Dickinson (a one-goal loss). Led by a formidable attack unit, the Pride will need to be opportunistic on offense or Cabrini goalie Erick Zarzecki (62% shots saved) will eat those shots up. I'm picking Cabrini by four.


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Ok well l'm not sure if this is a ***** session or a question but here it goes, l've been working and welding on cars for many years now, and my kids are growing up(all girls) so one of the girls has a boyfriend(22) and he works in a bodyshop(3 plus years) they work on some expensive vehicles there! So anyways l'm builting a Z-28(78) and its been a little bit of a motionvation problem with it(weather) but l'm at the place to replace the rear quarters, front ends done, fenders, doors, cowlings, etc and l redone the inter-fenders on rear, so this kid comes along and says to me that he could do the quarters, so l said have you done them before at the shop? ya hes says go a good grade on it, and have done quite afew, ok l said then next weekend come over and you can go at them! thinking to myself this is great, he can deal with the crap of fitting them. So he show up, l go to the shop and show him where everything is, and he's standing there, with a dumb look on his face, ok, me alarm goes off, ok l said to him, l probably making you nerves so l' ll go to the house, l'm still trusting in that he knows what he's doing(stupid) so now l'm in the house on the computer(hotrodders) and l'm getting nerves, so l go out to the shop, and hes on the ground with the replacement quarter, looks like hes wrestling with the quarter!! l go what are you doing? trimming it, so at this point l'm getting alittle pissed(steaming) so l look at the panel and its scratch to f... and got 2 dents in it, now l'm thinking l guess l'll have to help(show) him do this, now l've been told by my 2 ex's and this wife, that l should never teach anyone(temper), l guess l have the old thought, if you want it done right do it yourself!! So l show him how take the dents back out and fit it and l let him drill the holes to butt plug the panel on the door post and inner and he wants to drill them out to 1/2 inch and threw the new panel and the metal that there being fitted against, so l stop that thought and get him going in the right direction, so we tac it on, the only thing that l think was ok is his welding after l set the mig up and explain about the distance to stay away from the metal,(l had to keep clean the tip as he was lying the tip on the metal) it puddled nice for the butt welds! So after all this, my question is do people not get real training anymore? Next the panel doesn't look pretty, should l live with it? l can fix it, but l kind of like to teach him a lesson by cutting it back off before he finishes welding it on? lt won't be a cheap lesson but apparently the shop he works at isn't teaching him ****! l read a thread about a year ago on here, about a guy that did great work(tinsmith) and l told this kid about that work and he was just in aw of it, but l can't find it now.HELP would be nice on that!!!! UNSURE OF WHAT TO DO? l'm not a pro, just a guy that took alot of night school years ago for mechanics, welding and bodywork. Or is there no hope for our future gen? Thanks for reading my mouth off !!!!! TROY
Depending on what he took for schooling, its possible he didn't have to replace a welded on panel, and if a fairly young collision repair grunt, possible he hasn't had the call to replace a quarter, or drill out spot welds and plug something in. Also adhesives are more widely used now as well, as well as working in a specialized area. Not many combo guys who take thier job start to finish like when I started. I got the crap jobs starting out, but also did end up having to patch up a rusty crx(shop manager CLAIMED he couldn't get a new quarter for it) at the dealership making patches and welding them in right out of school. The thing was gone and could tell it had been replaced once already by someone, obviously not hearing of corrosion protection. I mean it was pretty bad, wheelwheels all gone, all the way gone below the bumper cover. On the other hand, I think I've only had to replace one door skin ever in the shops I've worked.
Place a new guy in a shop will most likely start out is washing and detailing cars and sweeping floors and taking out trash till he graduates to sanding and prepping cars or something, Could be awhile before they are given doing metal work that involves cutting, welding and fitting metal.
Just be glad he has an interest in the work at all. Sad fact is far less are becoming techs these days, as the money for the work often isn't there. Can sit down behind a desk or computer in a clean environment and likely make far better money then rolling around in dirt and sniffing fumes. Sad thing as Many won't even last three years before they find out there are easier jobs with better money. Or if they do stay in it, they leave for a different shop to get a pay increase and hoping it will be better. Others like me were never smart enough to get out while still young, and its about the only thing we know.
And the kind of attitude you seem to give off with this young kid "and cut it off just to teach him a lesson" is the kind of shop managers out there have (and I've personally knew some like that more wanting to ***** and show a temper, while you recieve ****ty pay to hear it, I didn't stay at those places long, and by the sounds of it, your trying to help contribute to him wanting to do something else.
If you expected everything to be perfect, If you really knew how to do the work, why didn't you either do it yourself, or bring it to a shop with a good reputation at a 60/hr shop rate(or whatever they are) instead of have some young kid come out and do it (I just bet you were going to pay him close to what a restoration shop would charge), and expect after 3 years in a shop him to have the skills of some old craftsmen?
Okay, how long have you been writing? I want Jon to take down your whole post to teach you a lesson. I also want to introduce you to this old timer writer dude. He is really skillfull at using paragraphs.
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Boys who crapped in your cereal this morning?(Kenseth17) l asked a question and get a big spill about life! And my writing, sorry not pencil pusher! Oh by the way the kid wanted to do it maybe to impress his girlfriends father? l guess you've never been in that boat!! Also he said he could do it, which turned out to be not quite true!(END OF PARAGRAPH) l wasen't making fun of him just asking a guestion on how to go forth, and l did show him how to go about it! But for people to understand you need the details and that l gave! l didn't yell or even show him l was pissed, just showed him the right way to go about it, and why would l take it to a shop to get them to do it when l'm more then capable of doing it?(END OF PARAGRAPH) lf you don't like the way l work this computer feel free not to answer with belittling, this is not the place to mud throw!!An as far as asking Jon to take the post off, because of the no paragraghs(now your making no sense) PLEASE TRY AND BE MATURE ABOUT THINGS!!! TROY
Depending on the shop he is in, they may not do many quarters at all. On the other hand, they may do some in the shop, and that work is given to someone with more experience. In the shop I'm in, I do most of the hardest hits. I have not done but 1 pick-up bedside in the last 1 1/2 years, but there have been several done. Unless the management is comfortable with his ability, they may not give him quarters to do.
Most young people in collision shops now days do not know how to do real body work as I knew it when I started. They only know how to beat on a panel for a little while, then cover up their mess with bondo. Some are very artistic as they can sculpt a fender out of bondo a whole lot faster than I can. They were not taught to be craftsmen, and it's all in what they were taught.
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Hi adlkart thanks for answering one of the questions, l guess part of the problem is l expect to much, as 20 years ago it was all about art!(no bondo) l know things change an l've even done cold weld panels but he said he could do it, so l trusted him, like l said l can fix the quarter, but is that teaching him the proper lesson or should it be cut off and me take him threw it step by step or let him finish next weekend(welding)? its only tacked for now! l'm not a pro or a teach but he is a great kid, he's the one that dad's like to see there daughters marry. l don't what to come of as a jerk to him but he does need to know how to do it within 95% correct! THANKS TROY
It was a joke man, don't take it so seriously.
On your young man, I can't see what he was doing, I really don't know how bad it was because you aren't a bodyman in todays world. Things are done differently than when I started 30 years ago too. A Young kid at the shop where I work (23 years old) has only been doing it for a year and a half or so and he is miles from a journeyman tech. However, compared to how I was hanging quarters 20 years ago with 10 years experience he does a MUCH better job! We did things different, we spliced a lot, We (stupidly) butt welded seams on a "section" job instead of replacing the whole panel. These young men where I work (there are three apprentices with less than four years experience do some pretty good work. All three of these guys blow away the collision body work that I was doing with the same time on the job. They are all AWS (American Welding Society) certified and REALLY do a damn good job especially compared to what it was like in body shops when I was there age. Yes they have a lot to learn but things are much different than 20 years ago so you have a lot to learn too.
If I saw what these kids are doing when I was their age I would have critiqued them too! In other words, you may not know what you are looking at and he maybe was doing it RIGHT! Things change, the have changed a LOT. If I would have saw a painter prepping a blend panel with a scuff pad on a sander I would have crapped!
There is one guy at the shop who had been a helper for a few years and just a year and a half ago came to our shop as a bodyman. He is amazing, he does the best work in much less time than anyone in the shop including me. He blows us all away and has almost zero come backs of any kind.
So, yes these young men are being taught, maybe not in your area? Maybe just at that shop, I don't know. But they are being taught. And to tell you the truth, as I said, I think they are much better in a lot of respects. In others, maybe not. But I think across the board years ago there were guys who didn't care, and there still are. But I think the guys that are in it for the long haul are pretty good.
Encourage him, this is a great trade that will never be sent over seas! This is not a beat up Troy post, I am just "keeping it real".
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Re: Quarters Installed
Hi Thanks MARTINSR ya maybe your right an things change for the better but like l said before he's been at it for 3 plus years so l quess l'll let him finish that one his way an see, but its on your shoulder!!lol l only know how l was shown and in my mind thats the only way! But l do known there is always 2 ways to skin a cat! So l'll pray! And l can always fix it myself! But thanks for the push in the right direction!!!!!!!!! TROY
I was just pointing out, that by how you came off in your post, its not going to help the young guy any if you belittle him, get angry, and tear it off in front of him to make a point. If you can teach him a better way of doing it, then by all means, its how you learn. Sad to say, in many shops there are just part replacers today, and being fairly new he probably doesn't replace a lot of quarters, It also doesn't seem to take all too much to total something out, with far less repairing going on, or with multiple skill sets.
My dad, I quit asking for a hand if I needed one when working on a car. He has no patience and gets upset right away, would have had trouble being a bodyman. Because of that, and usually have a lack of a helping hand, I started figuring out a way to do everything myself. Like to hang a somewhat heavy mustang hood and get over the hinges, hang from the rafters and swing it up over the hinges with one hand, while rolling the car forward in neautral.
I still don't claim to know a lot or have done a lot, but compared to what I knew when I was his age, I feel I know quite a bit more. You learn mostly by making mistakes and takes many years of picking up tips from others and through trial and error.
I guess my point is whats done is done, and no sence in getting overly upset about it. Everyone f's up every now and then, and why don't you do him a favor while hes offered to help you out with something "you are lacking motivation on" and if you can give him some useful tips to help him learn, do that instead of getting all angry and upset about it, and figure out the best way to fix it. Also, do you know how well the quarter was going to fit? Any chance he was trying to adjust it to make it fit properly, not all parts just aren't stamped correctly or the correct size. Some people would probably freak out if they seen some stuff adjusted to fit correctly in shops (An old boss of mine use to buy certifit parts). Maybe he just gets enthused about older cars (that can get you into trouble and a lot of work) or something, offered to help his gf father out, and just got a bit over his head. I really doubt you were paying the young man chip foose bucks to help you with the old Pontiac. Do him a favor and don't over react. Guess I took it wrong what you meant when you said cut of the quarter to teach him a lesson. I thought it was just meant to belittle him, as in I'll teach him a lesson and cut off his work right in front of him and show him I am unhappy. If the purpose was meant to show him how you would replace it so you can explain and teach him the way you learned over the years and he can pick up some tips, then that is totally different.
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Hi KENSETH17 Ya l'm sorry about getting upset, but l'm lookiing for the answers of what to do about this and it's not a joking matter to me.Ya Ya lighten up l know! Here's the problem, he's a good kid, smart and l think he is going place's if he puts his mind to it, but everything that l saw was not the way that l was shown(pros) 20 years ago but like Martinsr said things have changed! l'm not saying that my way is the right way.(todays world) But if its work for you 10 times in the passed with minimal or no bodo(which l can't stand) isn't that the better way! l've never liked change as l'm always unsure of it like to stick to what l know! And know he wasen't getting paid for it that he knew of but in the end l was going to give him some but knowing him he would have refused it, l'm pretty sure he just wants to help and maybe drive it when its done! lts a BB with around 515 to 535 HP, and its just a beater for me, something to burn the tires off so l leave my other ones intac, but it still has to look good! As far as the part it fit good just one spot that it was off, easy fix, and as far as the part getting cut back off, l'd sooner cut it off, pay the money for another and go threw it with him, to show him point A to B, that way he will have a choice, the old way or the new way! lt is not always the easiest and fastest way that is the worst or best! IT'S PRIDE IN YOUR WORK!! without it what do you really have at the end of the day? Here he makes $20.16hr and the shop rate is over $100 so there is money to be made in this! l'm thinking about get him a job at a buddies that does alot of show cars(old school) where there shop rate is off the chart($180) but man they built sweet stuff out of junk, but l don't want it to bite me in the a.. l've talked to him about it, and he seems really keen on it, but l just need to see his work first, so l'll let him finish this quarter,he still has to bead it an seal it and we will go from there! THANKS TROY
Troy.... As was pointed out, there are usually more than one way to do things. In this area, people in the automotive trades are normally very mobile, as in, there is a reason people have wheels on their toolboxes. There is one big advantage to that, in that you get a chance to learn from many different people in a very short time.
Another thing to consider is that there is what I consider the "right way" and there is also "the collision shop way" to do things. I am training my son in the field right now at work. Often I have to make sure that I point out that we have to do things differently at work than we do at home, when we are only working on "classics" or "customs". The cars are built completely differently, and the repair proceedures are different too.
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Hi l get you adtkart! THANKS TROY
Aaron, I know what you mean in the general sense. There are as many different shops as there are people in this business. Some "restoration" shops are hacks, some "collision shops" are hacks.
I started out in this business working at a full on restoration shop (not the first job, but one of the first) and later went into more collision side of things.
This "collision" being better than what I was taught in restoration became evident when I sectioned my second Chevy pickup. I did the first one when I was about 18 years old following the old R&C "Dream truck" little pages showing Valley Customs doing the job. I cut the cab right thru the middle of doors, firewall, and rear of the cab. One seam all the way around the "waist" of the truck. No "off set welds", no "pinch welds", no "plug welds", just butt welded all the way around, every reinforcement, every skin, just butt welded.
Twenty or so years later after many years in the "collision" side I sectioned another cab and half way through I had some hot rodder comment on how different it was being done and how much better it was. After replacing quarters and rockers and the like on late model cars for years I looked at the project completely different than Valley custom did back in the "good old days".
I drilled out spot welds, I trimmed off edges of panels, I made "Z" offset cuts, I didn't weld through the center of any panel, moving the cut to the end so as to not warp the metal. Even the door skins where left uncut, sectioning the shells instead and just trimming off the bottom of the skin. This cab looks like it came from the factory that way! It is FAR superior to my earlier attempt, FAR superior. And the reason was I used proper collsion repair techniques instead of some hard headed "restoration/custom, I do what I want because I am an artist" techniques.
Funny part about the "right way" and the "collision shop" way, there is no difference. It depends on the collision shop. I work in a shop where we really strive to "restoring" the car back to it's original condition. What is more like "restoring" than returning it back to original?
Every day we take things like a 2007 Toytoa Highlander that is smashed all to hell and return it to as close to original as humanly possible. This following the guidelines set forth by orgainizations such as ICAR that are the back bone of the autobody industry. A very minumum of filler is used, choosing to replace panels instead of repairing them. Every weld on panel is removed as close as possible to "unmanufacturing" where spot welds are drilled out and then the entire new panel is spot welded back in using a spot welder much like was used when the car was originally built. Corrosion protection is replaced, much like the original manufacturing process. The body is pulled back into shape using a $30k measuring system back to within a few mm just as it was manufactured. Every single componant is removed from any painted panels, including windows, handles, tape stripes, mouldings, etc so the complete panel is painted, just as it was manufactured. All new componants like glue on emblems are rubbers are replaced and not retaped, so it is just as it was manufactured.
We "restore" these cars BETTER than most "restoration" shops would a 69 Camaro.
I know there are tons of hack shops who are miles from this, but from what I have seen visiting hundreds of body shops, there are more that are doing this type of work than not.
You either do good work, or you don't. Being "restoration" or "Collision" really doesn't mean a hill of beans.
This is what I was talking about in my first post to Troy. The industry has came so far in the past 30 years it isn't even funny. When I first got in the business there is NO WAY in hell you would be pulling door handles off on a blend panel! Are you kidding?????? LOL, we taped EVERYTHING! We now, as an industry pull EVERYTHING off blend panels, it has became the norm. When I got into this business I had no clue what a "plug weld" was, but it sounds by the description Troy gave that this may be what his young man friend was doing with the "half inch holes" he was welding.
I see no difference what so ever, other than making a car BETTER than it was from the factory when you "customize" it. Or in making a "show car" you detail it much better than it was at the factory. But as far as "restoration", what is that? It is "restoring" it to original condition. That is exactly what the pro restoration shop does! It is only with newer cars than the "restoration" shop does it with.
RE:Quarters installed
Hi ok l don't know if this will make any difference in the understanding of it all, but l did take and pay for 3 trades, mechanics, welding and then autobody, for myself not to go into the trade but as l wanted to beable to do it for my own toys, l spent 4hrs a day for just short of 4 years, doing this and $13,000.00 dads money(24 years ago) and the family business is limos(Niagara Falls ) so l guess that made it easy for dad to fork over the money!!! But this is not what l do now.(work for my dad) So l took the courses and by the way at that time in the course the cars were dismantled and put back together! Chrome was always but on after paint. But l was paying to learn not learning an getting paid, so maybe thats part of the whole thing?
So l'm an old dog that doesn't believe in new ways, the 2 buddies that own there own body shops, 1 top notch and 1 so so, still do cars that way, strip them down! So thats the only advise that l looked to at first, and there very much like me, so thats why l post on here!! An once again thank-you for the slap up side the head and waking me up to the real world outside my little bubble!!!! TROY
Evidently, Brian works in the one PERFECT COLLISION/AUTO REMANUFACTURER shop in the world. They completely disassemble every vehicle that comes in the shop, and make it exactly as it was manufacturered. They even have spotweld robots to weld them back together, exactly like the manufacturer. (cough...cough)
In a collision shop, replacing a quarter on a vehicle like the Chevy Cobalt that I have at the shop right now, would involve "sectioning" in the sail panel, "B" pillar, and the rocker. Since this is a proceedure approved by GM, that is what the insurance company will pay for. If I was doing a "restoration" on a vehicle of similar design, it would involve removing the roof panel to facilitate replacing the complete "uniside" in one piece. It is also very seldome that I use filler on anything that I have access to both sides on restorations, as the time needed to repair is not a big concern. On the other hand, in a collision shop, where time is the main concern, filler is used regularly, with little concern.
In the collision industry, the main concern in many cases is the appearance to the untrained eye. Of course, there is the safety concern, but the appearance is what counts, as long as it can be done quickly. If the vehicle belongs to someone that is a "car guy", then things often will get hairy, as he may know how to look at the vehicle and see poor repairs. That young person that was installing the quarters may have been doing a job that would have been acceptable to the general public. The fact that someone that was watching had some training in the field, just makes it that much harder.
Aaron, sorry for the discussion, it never ceases to amaze me how I can post a response to you and you take it so personally.
How many restoration shops have you been in anyway? Filler is used regularly in restoration shops MORE so than collision shops. At least the collision shops I have worked at. We will take.... God I don't know, a month or more to go through a case of RAGE, and that is with five bodymen! I remember being at a very well known custom shop and the owner was mad because we couldn't accept that the car they were working on (a full custom) was a "two case car"! That is TWO cases of filler!
Now, in replacing that quarter on a 2007 Highlander when you are restoring it thirty years from now are you going to replace the whole side of the car? Because that is how it was made at the factory, the whole body side from tail lamp to cowl is one piece. What if you can't find an NOS panel on ebay () and you have to buy a Goodmark (they will have a Toyota division by then ) quarter panel. No, it will be sectioned somewhere, the trick is how well it is done. Toyota has a butt welding recommendation, that is what I do so it is as close to OEM as possible.
I don't do work for the "untrained eye" and neither does the shop where I work. I have for years looked at each job as if another pro was going to look it over when it was done. And in fact part of the training provided us by "Verifacts" (a great company to oversee SOP) suggests, having other techs look over your work before it moves to the next step.
I have always told apprentices, "It is easy to pull the wool over the eyes of some accountant who has brought his car to you to repair. Don't repair the car for the accountant owner, repair it for his neighbor who is a pro autobody technician."
If you don't work at a shop like this, and strive to, go look around because there are plenty around.
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1. Chicago Cubs win the World Series. OK, a hundred years late, but it finally arrived.
2. For American teachers. A new law requires members of Congress to pass the 11th grade American history test prior to writing new laws concerning accountability.
3. Sarah Palin, her own bank.
4. Herman Cain, a monopoly on selling Rolex watches to tourists on 42nd Street.
5. Rick Perry, a magic wand makes him able to count from one to ten.
6. Barack Obama awakes to discover he actually has a set of balls.
7. England receives the gift of ending the Conservative/Liberal coalition.
8. Israel discovers Jews don't steal land nor do they treat others as second class citizens.
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14. Michele Bachmann discovers the God she has been speaking with is really the Devil.
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Deported adults leave U.S. citizen children behind
There are 38 comments on the Myrtle Beach Online story from Dec 19, 2009, titled Deported adults leave U.S. citizen children behind. In it, Myrtle Beach Online reports that:In the five months since immigration agents knocked on her door, Norma Villeda has sold her home and furnishings and shuttered her husband's business.
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United States
#1 Dec 20, 2009
Too bad. Looks to me like they should
have taken further advantage of the U.S.
with amnesty granted in 1986. The woman
can take her kids with her. They have
dual citizenship. Mexico has FREE health
care. Stop your whining and just LEAVE.
Remember to take your kids which we've
all paid for.
#2 Dec 20, 2009
If the parents are illegals, then any brat born here is NOT an american citizen. This idea of birthright citizenship is another media lie. The 14th amendment does NOT say anyone born on american soil is automatically a citizen.
#3 Dec 20, 2009
The burner on this melting pot is out. Send them all back and close the gate.
#5 Jan 11, 2010
No one said a word about immigration when the sweat of these men and womem build homes that US citizens could finally buy. The real issue is selfish Americans, you want these men, women, and children, or the father of children married to US citizen to return to a war torn country where murder of innocent people is a way of life. We should sent those who commit serious crimes back, not stupid, no valid US license when someone from Europe wouldn't have received a ticket. They should be granted politcal asylum.
United States
#6 Jan 11, 2010
Excuse you. No illegal alien border jumpers built my house, they don't mow my yard, they ddidn't roof my house, paint it or put in concrete. They's NOT ALLOWED on my property, period! By the way the majority of Europeans came LEGALLY through Ellis Island and asked NOTHING of those already here. Don't tell you cry me a river B.S. here honey, as it just doesn't fly!Detect, detain, deport all illegal border jumpers who rape our taxes, sevices and jobs!
#7 Jan 11, 2010
You are either very young, a liberal or an illegal regardless, you are 100% wrong
"Press 2 for Deportation."
Since: Apr 09
#8 Jan 11, 2010
See -- this is why the 14th Amendment should be clarified to exclude illegal-alien parents! Here is a prime example of "separating families." If the 14th was clear, then there would be no question about deporting THE WHOLE FAMILY, keeping the family together. We wouldn't have SOB stories like this that Liberals can latch onto as campaign issues.
WE NEED A CLEAR LAW! The Supreme Court can settle this once and for all. What can we do to force the SC to face this issue?
"Press 2 for Deportation."
Since: Apr 09
#9 Jan 11, 2010
PUHLEEEZE don't confuse "us Americans" with Big Business, Destitute Illegal Aliens, and our Lax-On-Enforcement Congress. We are not the selfish ones. We were duped! We thought the Feds were protecting the borders and work visas were available -- AS CONGRESS MANDATED AND PASSED LAWS ON -- the latest in 1986. We went about our business trusting our elected officials, only to find out, 20 years later, that they betrayed us! How? They passed IRCA in 1992 WITHOUT FUNDING IT! How da heck is the enforcement arm of DHS suppose to catch illegals if they are under-manned and under-funded???
But that may be too deep for you. OK, let's propose an easier argument for you: How are American citizens suppose to know that illegals built their homes????? There is no legally binding disclosure on that. DUH.
And here's another thing you should think about: America cannot save the whole frikkin world. Why don't you put some accountablility on the other countries' govts to provide peace and economic posperity for their own dang citizens? They're NOT OUR CITIZENS. We have enough problems of our own, without having to take in 2 Billion POOR people.
Take stock of your bleeding heart and try to use LOGIC. This is NOT a soap opera or novela. This is real life, with American lives on the line.
And FYI, Mexico HAS NEVER BEEN A COUNTRY OF "POLITICAL ASYLUM" STATUS. NEVER. Mexican nationals come here for ECONOMIC reasons, and the USA does not have an "economic asylum" category. As it should be. If we did, then we will have 2 Billion POOR applicants here right now. BILLION.
Statistics show that it takes one generation (20 years) for immigrants to assimilate and start paying taxes. So, tell me, are you going to be OK with the Feds RAISING YOUR TAXES in the meantime? Afterall, someone's GOT TO PAY for these immigrants.
Do us all a favor: Stop FEELING and start THINKING for once.
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#10 Jan 12, 2010
Anti Americans screwed up America With their hate!!
#11 Jan 12, 2010
Shoot the kids if they leave them behind. Heck shoot the whole family before they get a chance to cash out and run with anything from america.
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#12 Jan 12, 2010
Just another sob story.The 14h amendent was enacted for the children of black slaves and not for the purpose of popping out anchor babies to work the system.The illegal parents are breeding children they can't feed.The American taxpayers bear the financial burden of raising the child,then....when the illegal parent gets caught and deported they are abandoning their children to the taxpayers!Any decent mother or father would not dream of leaving their minor children behind in another country.I was a single mother and had to work 2 sometimes 3 jobs to put my child through school and give her clothes and food she needed but I provided somehow.It is cowardice and shameful for the illegals to give birth to 5 or 6 anchors then abandon them to American taxpayers when deported.
I do not feel sorry for the illegal parents.I feel sorry for their children they used to work the welfare system as a meal ticket and to abuse the 14th amendment.I feel sorry for the AMERICANS who are living in tents in the cold with their little children while an illegal and her anchors sits in their safe,warm section 8 housing.I feel sorry for our elderly who will not get their little raise on their social secirity checks this year due to the economy.I give some of these little ladies rides to the grocery store when they get their check.I watch them count every cent they spend.I see them decided between food or the medicine they so despertaly need(they can't afford both)I also watch illegals go through the line at the grocery store.wearing nice clothes,freshly manicured nails,and 5 or 6 anchors hanging off her skirttail.She will pay for her TWO buggy's of groceries with food stamps and WIC vouchers.She is so "poor" the taxpayers buy her food but yet you should have seen the wad of money she pulled out to pay for the non food items and the expensive SUV she drove away in.While our elderly who have paid into the system all their lives scrimp and barely get by.We have American families who can't afford to go to the Doctor because when the economy got their jobs they lost their insurance too,while illegals are abusing our emergency rooms for the sniffels...hey but no worry...all their medical and medicine is taken care of courtesy of Uncle Sam and the American tax payers.What is wrong with this picture??????
I believe Americans should come first.We need to help our own.America has little children in remote Applachain mountains who are so poor they do not have shoes,running water,and go to bed hungry.Some of these children live in shacks.It will break your heart to see this and know this exists in America.It is one screwed up mess when illegals and their anchors are treated better than citizens.
#13 Jan 12, 2010
You may not have heard, but we have a drug war going on here too. However, since we are NOT a third world nation with no laws, we don't have thousands of murders in the streets over it every month.
Just so you know, illegal aliens didn't build MY house either, and I wouldn't hire one to carry my groceries to my car, let alone to do anything with or around my HOME.
The homes they build, the plumbing and dry walling they do, in most cases has to be redone. Of course, the homeowner is smarter after they learn that someone who lives in a mud hut and shits outside his front door don't know ANYTHING about building an AMERICAN HOME. Hence, they hire an American contractor to do the work. Most contractors, from what I've read, charge the stupid cheap shit homeowner even more than they ordinarily would because that homeowner hired an illegal first.
And, what do you mean the illegals built homes "Americans could finally buy"? Americans have owned homes since forever. Contractors who hire illegals don't do it so things will be cheaper for Americans, and the fact that you think they do tells me you are either a liar or just stupid. Why don't you point out the town where real estate prices fell before the crash. Go ahead...I'm waiting. ANY person/company who hires them does so so they can scrape more profit off the top for themSELVES, not to save Americans any money. Tell me the price of ANYTHING that has gone down since we shipped all our jobs to China and let these third world, jungle-dwelling goat herders in here! Just name ONE thing...just ONE.
#14 Jan 12, 2010
I hope Americans adopt these kids and they forget all about the parents who dumped them. They dump them in mexico or whatever OTHER third world crap hole they come from to come here, then they dump them here. A DOG won't even do that, will they?
#15 Jan 12, 2010
Are you referring to illegals from south of the border?
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Location hidden
#16 Jan 12, 2010
It is shameful and cowardice to abandon their children.That just proves why they come on AMerican soil to pop out their anchors to work the system,they (illegal parents) assumed the government would overlook them because the had children.Can you imagine how the children feel...No decent parent could ever abandon their children.You are correct Animals wont even adndon their young.
Have a nice day!
#17 Jan 12, 2010
As someone else said on another thread, it's only a matter of time before what's happening in Italy happens here. This pot will boil over if they don't get these people out of here and 'turn down the heat'. That seems to be the only thing our "leaders" listen to; marching in the streets, rioting and tearing things up. I believe it'll happen but it won't be THEM next time, it'll be US.
"starting to wake up"
Since: Apr 09
brookhaven ny
#18 Jan 12, 2010
here here
#19 Jan 12, 2010
Amid the tumult, Nancy has taken SATs and met with college advisers. She is completing applications to Meredith and Salem colleges. She doesn't know yet how she will pay tuition.
This just makes me laugh! With mamasita and papasite back where they belong she will be entitled to Pell Grants, State grants. There is also the Stafford Loan program that middle class children have to apply for in order to pay tuition. Typical mexican. I want it free!
#20 Jan 12, 2010
They really do think all Americans are rich and can afford anything, and therefore, for some strange reason, we OWE them. I'm so sick of these people. As much as I don't want to see violence in our streets, it's already there, much of which is committed by them. I guess we might as well get the doggone street riots started.
United States
#21 Jan 12, 2010
Typical mex mother. Just abandons her kids. We don't need women like that in america.
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Season Opens with Thomas Cole, A Waking Dream
Filmmaker Frank Beyer to Speak at MHC October 23
Weekend Set For October 2527
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Studies Series October 24
Scholar Robert Herbert to Lecture on Monet
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Week at MHC
October 18, 2002
from Mt. Holyoke, Northampton, Massachusetts, after a Thunderstorm
(The Oxbow) by Thomas Cole, which is currently on view at
the Mount Holyoke College Art Museum.
Cole, A Waking Dream
cast members offer a preview of the production's spectacular
costumes, which were designed by MHC's Vanessa James.
The play opens October 24 in Rooke Theatre.
canvases of Thomas Cole are prized for the sense of heightened
reality they conveyfull of luminescent colors set off by
malevolent shadows, and telling stories, at times, that grandly
illuminate nineteenth-century thinking. These same themes"heightened
reality" and a dramatic plunge into the nineteenth centuryare
exactly what theatergoers can expect at the MHC theatre arts department's
20022003 season opener, Thomas Cole, A Waking Dream.
This multimedia production, written and directed by Donald T.
Sanders, tells the story, in verse, of Cole's life, work,
and world. The play features period costumes made of multihued
plastic and a fifteen-member cast composed of MHC faculty and
students, members of the local community, and Five College students.
A Waking Dream opens October 24 in Rooke Theatre.
A Waking Dream
is part of a series of events addressing the theme of Destinations:
New Meanings of Travel sponsored by the Weissman Center for
Leadership. Also part of the series is the Mount Holyoke College
Art Museum's current exhibition Changing Prospects: The
View from Mount Holyoke, which features one of Thomas Cole's
most famous paintings, View from Mt. Holyoke, Northampton,
Massachusetts, after a Thunderstorm (The Oxbow), on loan from
New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art.
Known around the Pioneer
Valley as the mastermind behind the Massachusetts International
Festival of the Arts (MIFA), Sanders has brought dozens of world-class
performances to valley stages. With A Waking Dream, which
is part of this year's MIFA season, Sanders revisits a childhood
reverence for Cole's paintings that inspired the playwright
to develop the show when it was commissioned in 1985 by the Hudson
River Museum in Yonkers, New York. The play was subsequently produced
at Joseph Papp's Public Theatre in New York, where it played
to critical acclaim: "A waking dream and a dream from which
we are sorry to wake up," wrote John Russell in the New
York Times.
Vanessa James, chair
of the theatre arts department, created the sets and costumes
for the original production and is happy to return to A Waking
Dream. She explains how her designs blend with the multimedia
effects to absorb the audience in Cole's world: "The
proscenium is a gilded Victorian picture frame through which the
audience sees, in perspective, another picture frame. One is in
the museum, and one sees the painting on the wall, and one melts
into the painting and sees Cole's life taking place amongst
his paintings. Pictures within life within pictures within life!"
James's period costumes complete the scene. "They're
all made in plastics put together with tape and all sorts of crazy
things." The lighting and multimedia effects contribute,
says James, to the look of an oil painting.
Avant-garde jazz composer
Henry Threadgill re-created for MHC's A Waking Dream
the music that he first composed for the Public Theatre production.
Threadgill has been called "one of the greatest musical masterminds
of the past quarter century." Lighting is by Amae Kurre '03.
Performances of A
Waking Dream take place October 24 through 26 at 8 pm and
October 26 and 27 at 2 pm. Tickets prices are $5 general admission
and $3 for students and senior citizens. Admission is free of
charge on opening night for students with identification. Box
office hours, beginning Monday, October 21, are from 3 to 6 pm
daily and one hour prior to the performance. For reservations,
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Hunting was mixed in the last week.
Birds that were present 2 weeks ago mostly left. Especially southern MB where 8+" of snow fell almost 2 weeks ago. But even areas where it did not fall the birds left-like wholesale migration. An area that normally holds good #s of Snows was completely devoid of Snows But there were new duck and goose arrivals this past Thursday and Friday making for better #s seen.
I did OK, a mixed bag of Honkers, Lessers , Huthcies, S&Bs, Mallards and Pintail. I did not possession limit out on any--but 41 birds is good enough for me. I could have limited on ducks and darks but had a goose roost a 1/4 mile away so did not shoot the Mallards that were repeatedly at 10 yds Sat the first 45 minutes on Sat, instead waiting for the geese to come out, so that is hunting. and missed a few geese too.
Guides are encroaching more and more and becomming a problem in gaining access to feilds. :pissed: And the BSE (Mad Cow) hurt oppurtunities too (permission denied to Americans, and I hunted these farms previously, so a tough one). I can not nor do not blame the farmers/ranchers in regards to the BSE, as I too would be plenty POd if price went from $1.00 to .35. It really hurt the ranchers of CA because of the Big AG interests of USA influenced the US Farm Policy in regards the shipping the cattle into the US. (96% of the cattle in MB are processed in the US.). Most farmers/ranchers are holding on by a thread financially from what I could tell. :(
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Show line Houston tx
Anyone have a show line male GSD here in Houston tx?
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Stay away from heildelburg. I got my two from waco because I couldn't find what I was looking for in houston.
Try Rallhaus.
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By The Princeton Language Institute,Lenny Laskowski
Publisher: Warner Books
Language: English | Number of Pages: 224 | Format: Paperback
Isbn-10: 0446676683 | Isbn-13: 9780446676687 | Publish date: 01/07/2001
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