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Bouncing Bullets
Whenever Mythbusters meet bullets — no, not literally, though this week's episode of Mythbusters does have Adam and Jamie trying to shoot cardboard cutouts of themselves — you know something wacky and interesting is about to ensue. The myth in question is that, with an unwisely aimed shot, it's possible for a bullet to bounce off three steel beams and come back to hit the shooter.
Seems straightforward enough, right? If the beams, or walls as the case may be, are lined up at right angles to each other, why shouldn't a bullet just bounce off all three and come right back to where it started?
As Adam and Jamie (re)discovered during the show, bullets don't bounce, at least not when they're moving as fast as, well, a speeding bullet. They shatter on contact with any hard enough surface, like steel, and the pieces spray out in what could be a completely different direction from what you'd naively predict.
From a physics perspective, this highlights the difference between elastic and inelastic collisions. Elastic collisions are based on the idea of a ball bouncing off a wall; it goes in at some speed and bounces right back at the same speed, at the same angle, like a laser bouncing off a mirror. The key characteristic is that the ball exits with the same amount of energy it came in with, and that's what defines an elastic collision: no kinetic energy is lost (except in experiments with subatomic particles, where "elastic collision" means something slightly different, but that's another story).
The nice thing about elastic collisions is that they're easy to analyze. If we know the orientation of the surface along which two elastically colliding bodies are going to contact each other, the laws of conservation of momentum and energy,
are enough to determine the final velocities of both objects. You just decompose the momentum (or velocity) into components parallel to and perpendicular to the collision surface; the parallel components are unaffected, and you can solve the equations for the perpendicular components. They work out to
Unfortunately, most collisions in the real world (again, this doesn't quite apply when you consider the microscopic view) are inelastic collisions, which do involve a loss of kinetic energy. The archetypal example of this is two lumps of clay, or perhaps bread dough, smacking into each other. Instead of bouncing away like rubber balls, they stick together and continue to move with one combined velocity, (try it!), which is most certainly not what the solutions for and describe. So if the answer doesn't correspond to reality, unless the math is wrong (and it's not, I checked), one or more of the underlying assumptions must be wrong.
Experiments have shown that conservation of kinetic energy is that wrong assumption. What actually happens in an inelastic collision is that some of the kinetic energy gets transformed into some other form — heat, sound, maybe even light if the right materials are involved... but one of the most common destinations for extra energy is deformation. Real objects are not perfectly rigid; they can be squashed, squeezed, extruded, twisted, dented, bent or broken in various ways. All of that takes energy. The reason inelastic collisions are so hard to analyze is that there are so many different ways in which the energy can be used up, and exactly how much energy goes where depends on the detailed properties of the objects colliding. There's practically no way to figure out what really goes on inside a collision at the level of detail needed to calculate it from scratch.
But never fear, physics has not failed us yet ;-) The coefficient of restitution is a simple variable that describes, at the macroscopic level, how objects are affected by collisions: it's defined as the ratio of final velocity difference to initial velocity difference, in the direction perpendicular to the collision plane.
For elastic collisions, , which makes that definition equivalent to the conservation of momentum (the minus signs in the definition come from the fact that the two objects' velocities are in opposite directions). By analogy, we can write the conservation of perpendicular momentum for an inelastic collisions, , as
and the solutions for the final velocities become
The example of the two lumps of clay colliding is an extreme case, where , although that extreme case is not too far off from the bullet-on-steel impacts the Mythbusters measured.
If this were a full-blown research project, I might try to make a rough calculation of the coefficient of restitution for bullet-on-steel impacts, using the more fundamental properties of the various metals involved. But that would take way more time than I have right now (too bad, because I'm really curious to know how accurate of a model I could come up with... oh well, maybe someday). To do something quickly, let's just see what kind of a coefficient of restitution would be required for the ricochet Adam and Jamie were looking for.
I'm going to make a couple of assumptions that are not exactly correct, but I hope they're going to be close enough:
- The steel plates (walls) don't move
- The only force on the bullet is perpendicular to the plate
Here's why: assumption #1 means the velocity of the plate, let's call it object 2, is negligible. So the coefficient of restitution simplifies to
Assumption #2 means that the component of the bullet's velocity parallel to the plate stays the same during the collision, . Now I can use the fact that , and similarly for the outgoing angle, to write
The second assumption also means that the parallel component of the bullet's momentum is conserved,
With a little creative algebra, I can combine this with the expression for to give
The first thing to look at is the problem that Adam and Jamie kept coming up against: the collisions they were getting slowed their bullets and ball bearings down to the point where the shot would no longer be lethal once it got back to the shooter. The target velocity they were aiming for was about . Given that these bullets emerge from the gun at about , in order for a ricochet to be lethal, we need the product of the three factors
to be greater than . (By the way: a third assumption is in order here, that depends only on the materials involved in a collision and not on the angle of impact or the velocity. This is not exactly true, but again, I hope it's close enough for demonstration purposes.)
I'm going to look at a simple case: let's assume that the walls are oriented at angles, to form a rectangular area for the bullet to ricochet around in. That tells us a specific relationship between the final angle of each collision and the initial angle of the next, namely that they add up to , so the cosine of one is the sine of the other, and vice versa. This means that
Now here's something interesting I discovered: if you take the first two factors modifying the ricochet velocity,
and plug in for in terms of , you get
which is to say that under these particular conditions, regardless of the angle, a bouncing bullet's velocity drops by a factor of after two bounces! This makes the calculation considerably prettier, since the product of three square roots from above reduces to
Remember, this just has to be larger than to make a successful kill. It's easy enough to plot it for some reasonable values of to see if it's going to work:
From the Mythbusters' experiments with cinderblocks, I calculate , the yellow line in the plot, which means they might just be able to keep the bullet going fast enough... or rather, might have been, if these calculations were at all accurate ;-) In reality, it didn't quite work, and I'm not surprised because I've been making some pretty optimistic assumptions.
It's certainly been evident that this problem has exploded in complexity — certainly I had no idea what I was getting in to when I started writing! And we're still stuck on the rectangular box model, which only worked because of that fortunate substitution . What about arbitrary orientations, like the final cinderblock trial on the show? I don't know if there's any way to get an analytic solution, but this strikes me as an ideal opportunity to switch over to computational methods and demonstrate an evolutionary algorithm that selects the best candidates for reflected kill shots. But that's a project for another day. I'll have to leave off with this teaser graph that shows some different bullet trajectories in the rectangular box model. Color represents initial angle, opacity represents final velocity; and it's easy to tell that nothing moving fast enough to be lethal quite makes it back to the point of origin...
I guess one point of this is clear: if you're going to shoot yourself, better point the gun at your head.


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Is Gold a Disappointing "Safe Haven"?
What is a "Safe-Haven"?
It should be defined as a long-term investment that holds its value internationally, in extreme financial times. Is gold one of these? After all, it has fallen from $1,921 at its peak to $1,344 at its trough. This is a 30% fall over the last year plus. At one time George Soros described gold as the "Ultimate Safe-Haven", before saying it was a "disappointing Safe-Haven". Alan Greenspan described gold as being "money in extremis."
The SPDR gold ETF
In the "Bear Raid" we have seen over the last fortnight when gold was smashed down $200 after declining $100 before that, the physical gold sales came almost exclusively from the SPDR gold ETF before being accompanied by a massive 400 tonne gold short on COMEX. In addition, two large U.S. banks, Goldman Sachs and Merrill Lynch appeared to act 'in concert' to ensure the raid was successful.
Until this year the holding of the gold ETFs did not move except slightly as its shareholders were long-term investors not traders in the gold price for profit. They hold gold for wealth protection in the long-term.
By long-term we mean just that. In India for instance gold is passed down from mother to daughter through the generations. There, gold is used as collateral for loans and usually not sold. Some sell when the price is what they consider too high, but sold with the intention of buying back on a price retreat.
Serious gold investors take their savings and financial successes and put them in gold to weather the storms we have seen over the last century. Europe in particular has done this and survived two World Wars and two currency collapses, so far in the last century, provided they held their gold in Switzerland.
These long-term gold holders agree with Alan Greenspan that gold is held for extreme days.
But into the SPDR gold ETF came traders who wanted to hold gold until the price rose, so they could make a 'profit'. Hedge funds and names like George Soros were among these. The very nature of their investment attitude was different from those we have just discussed. When they bought gold it was in the expectation of a currency crisis in the dollar. If they had bought it as a "Safe-Haven" they would not have sold. It was bought as a short to medium term hedge against a dollar collapse. This did not come.
The Dollar Collapse Didn't Come
Because the dollar has not collapsed has in no way discredited gold as a "Safe Haven". It remains one.
We must point out that if a dollar collapse had come, gold would have acted as a "Safe-Haven" and retained its international value and risen in the dollar. Because it did not come, gold did not fail as a "Safe-Haven" because it was not tested as one. What has happened is a successful "Bear Raid" which gave such investors the profit they wanted.
You may well reply, "but the fall in the gold price of late defeated it as a Safe-Haven." Not so! Take a look at the seventies performance of the gold price and right through to the year 2000.
Gold through the Last 45 Years
Between 1968 and 1980, gold rose from $35 an ounce in 1968 to $195 an ounce on December 27, 1974, only to fall back violently to $103.50 an ounce on August 25, 1976.
This represented a 43.4% drop in price during this period. Twenty months of price declines were too much for most gold investors, and many exited vowing never to return. Then it reversed and continued to climb right up to $850 over the next three years. Then the U.S. in conjunction with developed world central banks mounted an attack on the gold price through an acceleration of the production of gold, by financing mining operations with leased bullion and threatening the market with gold sales. Then the venerable Mr. George Brown established the "Brown Bottom" in the gold price at $275, just before its 10-year rise through to $1,921. Now take the long view from the date it was $35 at the end of the sixties. Even now at $1,400 it has risen 40 times in 42 years. I would call that a "Safe-Haven"!
Two features are worthy of note when considering whether gold will fail to hold its price, long-term:
Firstly, even if they wanted to accelerate gold production, it can't happen again because the easily-mined gold resources are used up.
Secondly, inflation in the mining industry has pushed the price at which it is profitable to mine gold on average on a third of world gold mines to over $1,100 (allowing for a small profit only). So if prices were to fall lower than the bottom of $1,344 a substantial proportion of the world's gold mines would become unprofitable and would be closed. This would reduce supply considerably. Figures of a drop of 900 tonnes to 1,900 tonnes are possible.
Forty percent of the world's gold supply comes from what is termed "scrap sales." This represents around 1,600 tonnes annually. The bulk of this scrap supply ceases when the gold price falls substantially, leaving the market mainly supplied by newly mined gold.
Hence the 'natural' fall in supply to the market would force the gold price back up to well over $1,400 and with central bank demand alone taking the gold price, much, much higher.
Central Banks to Control the Gold Markets
Central banks are now buyers of gold, not sellers. Last year they bought 545 tonnes of gold. We believe that not only Kazakhstan will retain its entire local production for reserves, but suspect that China is doing the same. This removes around 450 tonnes of gold from the newly-mined gold number of currently 2,800 tonnes (when the price was higher) to 2,350 tonnes. This figure is before the cut backs due to lower prices.
What must concern the central banks, which all consider gold as an important reserve asset, is the fact that institutional investors can play around with the gold price like this. It is in their interests to ensure that controls are placed on the buying and selling of gold so that private markets don't play havoc with the gold price this way.
We see this concern as being another reason why Roosevelt had U.S. citizen's gold confiscated in 1933, making gold dealing at all levels illegal and U.S. gold in the sole domain of the Fed.
We believe the confiscation of gold can and probably will happen again when instability hits global foreign exchanges as the Yuan makes its presence felt at the expense of the U.S. dollar. Even now, owning gold is deemed a privilege, not a right, by the U.S. government. As such, an important reserve asset now and more so in the future, gold will become a nationally strategic asset and should be removed from the reach of those who undermine its credibility by ramping its price up and down.
Please note the thinking behind central bank buying. The Chairman of the Kazakhstan when he said, "The three traditional centers of the world economy, the US, Japan, and Europe, are three huge pools of uncertainty, and that the need for diversification is stronger than ever. The central bank locked up domestic supplies of bullion in 2012 and plans to buy all gold mined in the country this year, or as much as 30 tonnes," Mr. Marchenko said. "As currencies lose value, money must be invested somewhere."
With the Chinese Yuan waiting in the wings of the global currency scene gold is destined to become a "pivotal part" of the global monetary system (see www.gold.org report from the OMFIF). In that role it becomes too important to be the victim of profit-seekers as we have just seen. In that environment, we would expect to see at least one central bank swoop down on the 'bear raiders' and buy all the physical gold they are selling. It would be better if the 'raiders' are prevented from raiding then.
Global Gold Market
As we have mentioned already, the recent sell-off of gold from $1,650 to $1,344 was the result of a well co-ordinated, "bear-raid" by at least two leading U.S. banks and their hedge fund clients driving the gold price down. They were the only sellers in the global markets. By moving quickly and relentlessly against the gold price, they achieved their gold through massive short positions on COMEX (which does not need physical gold to be used) and sufficient physical gold to overwhelm the physical gold market (an 11 tonne a day market) over just a few days. Sales from the SPDR gold ETF supported their attack. These increased as the gold price fell. Then as their price objectives were achieved and signs of buying from other facets of the gold market stirred to life, the selling by the 'raiders' stopped. Selling still persists from the SPDR gold ETF, but we believe will soon stop.
The much slower reacting physical market sprang to life at the sight of the gold price below $1,400. In the developed world and the emerging world, the demand for physical coin and bar leapt as though they were given discounts consistent with Christmas sales.
We have no doubt that the invisible but ever-present central bank gold buyers swooped in too, but this can only be confirmed when their purchases are disclosed at the end of the month.
Thus the attempt to label gold as a 'disappointing Safe Haven' seems only to be given credibility in the U.S. We see that as being so, only momentarily. The rest of the world, as it has for the last 5,000 years continues to believe it is a 'Safe Haven' as shown by their actions in buying gold in all parts of the globe after the 'raid'.
So let's not confuse safe haven with profitable. The safe haven is always there when all else fails. The 'extreme times' that test such have not yet arrived. But history shows they will. Until then, wealth is protected by it in the long-term. The day that gold is tested as a safe haven will be when the monetary system buckles and currency values decay to the point where currencies will be valued by gold and not gold by currencies.
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Quail Hollow Club, Charlotte, NC
It was never Tom Fazio's intention, the great golf course designer swears, to make the three finishing holes at the Quail Hollow Club meaner than a south Texas summer.
Inasmuch as Fazio keeps a decorated Christmas tree in his home year-round and has been known to throw a collection of holiday tunes into the CD player while most people are on summer vacation, there is good reason to believe his intentions were sincere.
"I've never looked at golf that you have to make it hard for tournament play," said Fazio, who did the re-design work at Quail Hollow in 1997 that transformed the original George Cobb layout into a superb test of all skill levels.
"If you make it hard for the professional, who else can play it? The goal is to make it strong for the (PGA Tour) level player and reasonable and playable for everyone else."
The 480-yard, par-4 16th hole, the watery and terrifying 217-yard, par-3 17th hole and the 478-yard, par-4 finishing hole provided, statistically, the second-most difficult finish on the PGA Tour in 2004. Only the three closing holes at East Lake in Atlanta, site of the Tour Championship, played tougher last year, and cold weather factored into those numbers.
Quail Hollow's finish has the same effect as standing on the edge of the Grand Canyon. The view is spectacular, but the possibilities are terrifying. It's a place where a player can go from fourth to 40th in less than an hour.
"Nobody is ever safe," said Joey Sindelar, who rode birdies at Nos. 16 and 17 on Sunday last year to his surprising victory.
Just two years into the Wells Fargo Championship, the closing holes have borrowed a nickname from prison slang, "The Green Mile." If their combined distance of 1,175 yards is a long par-5 short of a true mile, there is, at least from a tournament player's perspective, a correlation to the last walk death-row inmates take.
"It's a hard finish," tour veteran John Cook said. "If there is any wind blowing, those holes are hard. If there's no wind blowing, those holes are hard.
"Take Nos. 16, 17 and 18 at the TPC Stadium Course (site of The Players Championship). With no wind, it's a reachable par-5, an 8- or 9-iron to a par-3, and a drive and 6-iron par-4.
"But not at Quail Hollow."
The secret to shooting a good score at Quail Hollow is having it by the time you step to the 16th tee. Stepping to that tee in itself requires a long walk back from the 15th green to a tee situated in its own secluded corner of the golf course.
The simple challenge at 16 is to rip a tee shot toward a big oak in the distance, while trying to keep the ball in a fairway that turns gently to the right, tilting ever so slightly toward a bunker in the corner of the landing area.
Miss the fairway, especially to the right, as Arron Oberholser did in his playoff with Sindelar last year, and you're caught in a riptide. That's because the green is long and shallow and reluctant to accept mid- and long-iron approach shots.
"Just a flat-out, tough, great par-4," Sindelar said. "You're not going to lose a ball there, but you can make a bogey or a double."
It only gets harder from there.
The par-3 17th is like watching the cliff divers in Acapulco. It's mesmerizing as long as you're not the one on the rocks looking down.
Twenty-eight of the best seats at Quail Hollow this year will be white rocking chairs along the edge of the Executive Club tent located behind the 17th green, where witnesses will gather to admire the lake and the drama.
"You don't hit perfect shots all the time," Cook said, "but you have to hit one there."
The hole was designed to be played from one of a series of tees located to the left of the 16th green (from which members play), but a Wells Fargo Championship tee was built to the right of No. 16. It dramatically changed the angle of approach to a green that is guarded front and left by the lake.
Not only must players hit mid-to-long irons into a green with virtually no bailout area on the right, they're going into a green that slopes away from the tee and toward the water in the back.
"The angle is all wrong," Nick Price said. "It's a better hole from the other side."
David Duval, Joel Kribel, Matt Kuchar and Brad Faxon have made quadruple-bogey sevens there.
Sindelar, on the other hand, striped the 4-iron of his life into the wind, over the water and to within six feet of the hole for the birdie that made his victory possible last year.
Then there's the 18th hole, which is just short of impossible.
Listen as Price, one of the game's best shotmakers, describes it:
"There's trouble left and right off the tee. Trouble all the way down the left side. You have to hit two terrific shots or you're going to make a bogey."
In a lost-in-translation moment two years ago, David Toms batted around eight times on the 18th hole, burning all but two strokes of the six-shot lead he held on the 72nd tee.
This is where Fazio's gentler side showed.
Had he been grumpy, he would have put the creek along the right side of the hole. (Fazio could do that because the creek is artificial, allowing him to do with it whatever he chose.) But 51 weeks a year, the members play Quail Hollow, and most of them hit slices, and they'd forever be fishing balls out of the stream if the creek were on the right.
"You have to remember, the pros are only there one week a year," Fazio said, "and some of them aren't there that long."
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The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki
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DIY: 1998 BMW 528i Brake Hydraulic System Overhaul (6 Hoses, Caliper Seals/Boots)
DIY: 1998 BMW 528i Brake Hydraulic System Overhaul (Brake Hoses, Caliper Seals/Dust Boots)
My car has no problem with the brake system but I want to keep this baby for another 10 years, so this is another preventive DIY.
My experience with previous cars shows that after 12-14 years/100-120K miles, the Brake Caliper Seals start to harden causing either fluid leakage or seized Calipers (uneven pad wear, rotor overheat ---> damage etc.). So at that age/mileage it makes sense to "refresh" the brake hydraulic system.
My BMW Brake Caliper is made by ATE.
Brake Hydraulic Overhaul parts can be purchased from:
http://www.eactuning.com or similar websites.
- FRONT Brake Rebuild Kit (Seal, Dust Boot): PN 34111163647; ATE (made in Germany); $18.00 x 2
(FRONT Caliper has only 1 piston; each kit has 1 seal, and 1 boot, enough for 1 caliper, you need 2 kits per car).
- REAR Brake Rebuild Kit (Seal, Dust Boot): PN 34211164440; ATE (made in Germany); $14.00 x 2
(REAR Caliper has only 1 piston; each kit has 1 seal, and 1 boot, enough for 1 caliper, you need 2 kits per car).
- FRONT Brake Hoses; PN 34301165249; FTE (made in Germany); $16.00 x 2
- REAR Brake Hoses; PN 34301165190; FTE (made in Germany); $19.00 x 2
- "IN-BETWEEN Brake Hoses": 34321162612 (Right Rear), 34321162616 (Left Rear); ATE (made in Germany) $18.00/each.
TOTAL = $160-170 range
1. ALWAYS support car with jackstand before doing any work!
2. I use Valvoline Synthetic Brake Fluid.
3. Clean the car the day before so all sand/dirt comes off.
- Dirt is No. 1 enemy when working on brake caliper rebuild. So: clean the outside (I used an old tooth brush) of the caliper before disassembly! Spray the outside with some WD-40, wipe it clean before doing any work.
- Spray the connection between the brake hose and metal line (AT CHASSIS CONNECTION) with WD-40 once the wheel is removed (car on jackstand); this allows the WD-40 to work into the brake hose and metal line connection while you do the caliper rebuild. This makes removal easier.
In my case the FRONT connections are so corroded it was impossible to remove even after one hour of WD-40 treatment. I use Propane Torch (10-15 seconds of heat, and it was a breeze).
- Better yet, spray these connections 1-2 days ahead, these hoses/lines nuts/bolts seize after 13 years!
- Use flare wrenches!!!
4. STUDY Typical Brake Caliper Anatomy.
5. Start with the FRONT Calipers.
- Jackstand under subframe.
- Spray WD-40 at brake line chassis connection, hopefully you don't need to use heat as I did.
- Remove Caliper (remove Spring Clip, then use 7-mm Allen socket to remove calipers). Be gentle with the Brake Wear Sensor when removing it on driver side, I broke mine! No big deal, a new sensor is $5!
- Clamp the hose with vice-grip and cut the hose below the vice-grip.
Now the Caliper it out of the car.
- Use the brake tool to squeeze the piston inward to squeeze out brake fluid into a bottle, this way later when you expel the piston, there is no mess. I learned this the hard way, so don't ask LOL.
- Now use compressor air to push the piston out (place a piece of wood first!!!).
- Using a flat screwdriver, gently pry the Rubber Boot's edge, taking care not to damage the piston's smooth surface.
- Before you get too excited and toss the rubber boot, STOP! You can use the old rubber boot as the tool to press new boot in! ATE procedure calls for a special tool (similar to bearing adapter) to push the new rubber boot in. Most of us don't have this tool. So you can cut the rubber portion of the OLD boot, now you have the outer ring, which is made out of metal with rubber encasing it. This is now your special tool to be used with a pair of channel-lock pliers!
6. Use air compressor with 30-40 psi to expel piston, no need for more pressure.
- Use a piece of wood to prevent piston from shooting out too far!
- As soon as you apply air pressure into the Brake Caliper (remove the brake hose first), the piston comes out.
7. My FRONT Piston (aluminum instead of steel) has a few very very fine scratch marks (you have to look very closely to see it).
- I buffed the piston shiny using "PlastX"; the same stuff you use to polish headlight.
- The nice thing about "PlastX" is that: it is very fine paste, maybe 10,000 grit or so.
- Then clean the piston and the Inside of the caliper with WD-40 and wipe it clean. Again, take care not to introduce any dirt inside.
- Wipe all areas clean with a clean rag. You may want to use a Q-tip (wrapped with cloth) to clean the 2 grooves (1 for seal, 1 for dust boot) really well.
8. Remove old seal (gentle with a flat screw driver).
- Clean the inside of the Caliper Housing completely.
9. Now wet the new Seal with fresh brake fluid and place it in the INNER groove, taking care not to get any dirt in the bore.
10. Place the NEW Dust Boot onto the Piston as shown in the picture below:
- LEFT Picture is the Anatomy during Normal Operation.
- RIGHT Picture shows you how to place the Dust Boot during Installation of Piston.
11. During Piston insertion:
- Place the NEW Dust Boot in the Piston first then slide it into the Smooth Part of the Piston (wet the boot with brake fluid first).
- Now place the "special tool" (old rubber boot ring) on top of the NEW rubber boot to protect NEW rubber boot when squeezed by pair of channel-lock pliers.
- Make sure the Piston is straight. If it is even slightly crooked, it won't go in. Use the Brake Tool to push it in.
- Once the Piston is inserted half way, STOP!
- Now use 2 fingers to push the backside of the NEW rubber boot in place. The OUTER part is angled out. Now use the channel-lock pliers to squeeze on the "special tool" and slowly seat the rubber boot in.
- Now use the Brake Tool to push the Piston all the way in. You will hear a faint snap when the rubber boot "round" INNER ring goes inside the Piston's groove.
(Verify using your finger to be sure the rubber boot INNER ring is in the correct groove.)
12. Now install new Brake hose on the Caliper using 14-mm flare wrench.
- Cover the free end of the hose with plastic/rubber band to prevent dirt from getting inside!
13. Now disconnect the chassis connection (11-mm and 17-mm wrenches).
In my case corrosion sets in, after 1h of WD-40, I almost rounded the 11-mm bolt! So time for heat!!!
- Cover the Plastic Junction Box with Aluminum paper to protect it.
- Those of you who have done home plumbing will be familiar with the Propane Torch that plumber uses to solder copper pipes. This can be purchased at local hardware store for about $10-15. Buy the kit so you have the Propane bottle and all the gadgets.
- All you need is "blue flame" about 1 inch in length and about 10-15 seconds at the spot shown below. This is enough heat to expand the "Nut" part on the hose.
- NOTE that the hose fitting is 17-mm and has 4 ridges that prevent you from turning, so you have to turn the 11-mm bolt.
- After 10-15 seconds of heat, life was a million times better! The 11-mm bolts comes out like a breeze!!!
PS: If you are a perfectionist like myself .......at the very end, before installing the wheel, the area heated by propane torch ...... Spray with some primer paint to cover the part that was heated. But do this once you have done everything else and ready to install the wheel.
14. NEXT is "IN-BETWEEN HOSES" Next to suspension tower.
- My old "in-between hoses" do not look too bad after 13 years and 115K miles. But I replaced these for the sake of completeness. Plus, there have been people who lost all braking because these 2 hoses burst at the least expected moment!
- Use cardboard to protect from brake fluid spillage. Since these hoses are at the same level as the reservoir, there is very little spillage here (compared with the wheel caliper area where it drips at 1 drop/second).
- I also use a small piece of cardboard to push the wring out of the way.
- I move the metal brake line out of the plastic holder to make the job easier.
So remember to put the metal brake line back in the plastic holder when all done.
- NOTE that the 2 hoses need different wrench combinations: 11-mmm & 14-mm and 12-mm & 17-mm.
15. Next is REAR Hoses.
- You MUST chock FRONT wheels because once the REAR is raised (I raised the REAR via the Differential), nothing will stop the car from rolling!!!
- Once the REAR is raised, place jackstands at REAR Jack Pads.
- Then gently lower the car onto the jackstands.
- Then I slightly raised the floor jack until it gently touches the Rear Differential as a backup in case the jackstands fail!
- Note that I put the wheels under the car. Again, safety first!
- Note that my REAR hose starts to crack on the outside.
- 11-mm and 14-mm wrenches as usual.
- For the REAR I did NOT need heat at all: 1h of WD-40 does the job, maybe because the REAR is less exposed to corrosion than the FRONT. If you decide to use heat in the REAR, there is a rubber grommet right there, so be careful!
NOTE: the REAR setup has washers x2 sandwiching the rubber grommet.
So do NOT forget to transfer the metal washer from the old hose to the NEW hose, see pic. I learned this the hard way LOL!!!
16. Same Trick using "special tool".
- New hose design is slightly different from stock.
17. REAR Caliper Ready for install.
NOTE the free end of the new hose is wrapped in plastic/rubber band to prevent dirt from coming in, remove the plastic wrap only when you are ready to install.
18. Re-install Brake Caliper, Brake Pads etc. taking care to make sure the Brake Wear Sensor wiring is properly secured.
19. Then bleed Brake System.
- I use my air compressor to bleed and wrote it up here:
DIY: 1-man Hydraulic Bleeding Kit for those with Air Compressor!
This is my setup using the "home-made" ATE Cap for the air compressor:
That is it boys and girls, now I need my favorite Heineken beer!!!!!!!!
Last edited by cn90; 05-05-2011 at 06:58 PM.
Excellent DIY Thank You
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I forgot to mention a special thanks to "JimLev" and "EuroDavid" from roadfly E39 forum who have given me excellent tips before this overhaul project!
Oh how I love your DIYs!
This one is/will be an instant classic; so I took the liberty of adding it to the bestlinks (new addition in red):
- How to do a preventive brake system & caliper rebuild (1) (2) & what six brake hoses to check for wear (1)
For the record, here is the current overall summary bestlink set for E39 brakes:
- What E39 street use brake pads (1) and rotors (1) and suppliers (1) (2) are most often recommended & how to do a complete four wheel brake job DIY (1) (2) (3) including the parking brake drum shoes (1) (2) (3) & exactly what lube/paste to use and not use (1) & where to lube (1) and not to lube (1) & what six brake hoses to check for wear (1) & how to do a preventive brake system & caliper rebuild (1) (2) & what tools are needed for a brake job (1) (2) and supplies for doing brakes (1) & what brake specifications you must know (1) including minimum specs for the brake shoes (1) (2) taking care to measure torque accurately (1) & how to crack friction material edge codes (1) & how far you can go once the brake wear sensor trips (1) (2) (3) (4) & how long do rotors last (1) & how to clear the check brake lining warning the right way (1) (2) and how to hardwire the sensor (1) (2) & how to diagnose brake-related vibration (1) (2) (3) & the truth about rotor "warp" (1) & how to rebuild the calipers (1) & how to measure runout (1) & should you just turn the rotors (1) & how to remove stuck rusted-on brake rotors (1) & how to remove a stuck 6mm brake rotor set screw (1) & how to replace the anti-rattle spring (1) (2) & what about unsightly rust (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) & how to bed (1) (2) & bleed or flush (0) (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) your brakes & what brake & clutch hydraulic fluid to use (1) and how much it will cost if you do not DIY (1) (2) (3).
Notice Doru's picture here of just two of the often-overlooked worn brake hoses:
Last edited by bluebee; 05-01-2011 at 07:14 AM.
Another awesome DIY from cn90. Thanx, Cam! Keep this up and I'll be able to rebuild my entire car over time and keep it forever! Just one more thing on my "gotta do it" list...
Outstanding sir! Thank you (and your contributors) for the excellent DIY.
did u give any thought to the stainkess steel hoses? for me, the steel option only adds $30 more to the cost. ur hoses are less then my 2002 525i e39. the intermediate houses are the expensive ones. if I just get 4 hoses, for front n back, its only $50. the two intermediate houses add another $45. or all six flexible stainless steel for $120.
The reviews on SS brake lines have been mixed.
For that reasons, I stick to OEM brake hoses, which work just fine, zero issues whatsoever.
I know you said no brake problems before starting this, but did you notice if your pedal got any firmer wih the replacement hoses?
Also, was there a lot of brake fluid leakage once you took off the vice grips from the hose? I saw you put them off, but not sure at what point they were removed and if, like doing the fuel filter, there will be a steady stream of fluid until the lines are evacuated (1 liter ish).
How were you able to identify your caliper as an ATE? were they marked? I believe my two rears are identical (not sure of name), but someone replaced my front left at one point. I don't know the brand, but it is definitely newer than the right. Are the rebuild seal kits generic (even though an ATE brand)?
Lastly, on the rears, did you support the 14mm connection (hose) while loosening the 11mm connect (solid line)? or vise versa?
Same question for the fronts. I know you mention the 17mm connection has slots and won't take a wrench, but did you support the 17mm connection while turning the other end (that was just heated)?
Last edited by MJB9; 05-14-2012 at 06:57 PM.
I took your advice on the compressor. I ordered, and received today, the Movite 0109 european black aluminum cap version. As nice as it sounded, the $80 or so didn't justify it. I am returning it unopened today. I ran out and bought a craftsman branded evolve 3gal compressor with braid gun, on sale for $79!!!! :-) I'll build the adapters soon. Now I'll have a compressor when it comes time to rebuild the calipers. :-)
Thank you!
It is now 1 year since I overhauled the entire brake system as mentioned.
So far so good, braking is rock solid!
Cam, when you removed the 2 short rubber lines from the ABS (the ones that go to the rear), is there a risk of sucking in air in the ABS?
Looking for a DIY? Parts? Check this out, it might be your ticket
Stable: e39 RIP, e53, e46, e92is & Tribby
Here's the parts I ordered from eaceuroparts.com for my 2002 525i e39, if any one is interested. I am skipping the seals for now until I'm ready to paint the calipers at a later date. Too many other more important repairs to do, along with a new job change/move coming up. Back to TX.
Purchased Items
Item Number Description Price
12 13 9 067 831 Spark Plug Connector from Coil to Spark Plug (BREMI) $6.29
12 13 9 067 831 Spark Plug Connector from Coil to Spark Plug (BREMI) $6.29
12 13 9 067 831 Spark Plug Connector from Coil to Spark Plug (BREMI) $6.29
12 13 9 067 831 Spark Plug Connector from Coil to Spark Plug (BREMI) $6.29
12 13 9 067 831 Spark Plug Connector from Coil to Spark Plug (BREMI) $6.29
12 13 9 067 831 Spark Plug Connector from Coil to Spark Plug (BREMI) $6.29
34 32 1 162 612 Brake Hose Right Rear (In-Between Brake Pipes) $16.64
34 32 1 162 616 Brake Hose Left Rear (In-Between Brake Pipes) $17.10
34 30 1 165 249 Brake Hose Front Left/Right (2 Per Car) $14.46
34 30 1 165 249 Brake Hose Front Left/Right (2 Per Car) $14.46
34 30 1 165 190 Brake Hose Rear Left/Right (2 Per Car) $18.51
34 30 1 165 190 Brake Hose Rear Left/Right (2 Per Car) $18.51
Sub-Total: $137.42
Shipping Cost: $7.42
Total: $144.84
Yes, there are free shipping places, but all, including autohausaz.com mixed and matched all the parts (only one part was OEM, rest were PEX, feni, etc). BAVauto sold OEM but huge money. Anyway, thought I'd share.
I just noticed you don't have a heat shield covering section by in-between hoses. Did you remove it, or never had one? There's no way I'll be able to change those hoses without removing mine. Not sure it there are any gotchyas on removing it.
UPDATE: Still working on it. 2 hours so far, and fronts are done. That included bringing all my tools and compressor from 2nd floor to front of apt. building. And also included my teaching my 15 yo who is mechanically challenged (more than me). Went VERY well. For those like me, I couldn't figure out how to turn the 17mm wrench with the 11mm. But it's the 11mm that turns. The 17mm connection in grooved not to turn--you basically wiggle it to come up and out--simple. Oh, and I had to use zero heat. I think because I used pb blaster last week, last night, and this morning. Doing rears now, then intermediates (might take a little bit longer because of the heat shield). Then I'll bleed them with my new makita mac700. It worked great on the lug nuts. The sears branded was too loud and weak. This one is 4x the air, 10x quieter, and about 20x faster in loading the air. :-)
Also, I didn't have a 17mm wrench, so I used an adjustable wrench just fine. I did have an 18mm flare wrench but it wouldn't fit. Also, don't be afraiid on the 11mm. I used a lot of force and it gave, but if I had to lean into it, I would have used the torch to heat it. It would have def stripped without the flared wrench though--highly recommended. I got the crafstman set at sears for $32 on sale (6 piece).
Front hoses and intermediates really don't look bad. The rears are definitaly in rough shape. Driving 1000 miles next month so wanted to take care of it asap.
Last edited by MJB9; 05-19-2012 at 04:57 PM.
Wow, these intermediates are harder than the front and rears--combined. Was able to move heat sheild somewhat, but not completely. I also moved the coil pack assebly out of the way (figures, I just had it apart this morning too). Anyway, moving everything helped a little. Got the top intermediate off, and not the bottom is giving me a hard time. the flare is slipping off and possibly rounding the nut. The reg wrench seems to be ok on it for now. Spraying with PB blaster (soaking actually), then will try in 30 minutes again. Wouldn't be so bad, but it's an awkward working angle for wrenches. Crow wrench probably be ok, but I'm thinking it would spin/twist the line while trying to turn it. I don't have crows anyway. Well, as usually, the last bolt, nut, or in this case a hose, is giving me the most trouble. Already to bleed brakes after this. So glad these usually last 10 years before needing them again! :-)
No go on last hose. I committed myself by cutting the line and using a deep socket. I have great leverage on the 17mm end, but the 11mm I'm worried about and still not budging. So, instead of risking it, and since I'm committed now, I'm going to take the front right tire off (again), and try to pull out the intermediate line altogether, from the tire well. Then I can literally soak the whole connection in a bowl of PB blaster, and plus I'll get a horizontal grip on both ends of the hose/line, and that should work--I hope! :-) Coming up on 4 hours and should have been done. But I guess really 3 hours because the first hour was bring out tons of tools, doing the 6 coil pack boots replacement, and teaching my son (who's had enough already). lol.
Off I go again. :-)
Oh, think it's be safe to use a torch now? probably not since there'd be exposed break fluid at this point.
Of course the line didn't go to the tire well, went to rear of car. oh Well, done for the night. Last intermediate hose would not give (one end closest to front of car was no problem. But of course the one deeper in toward the engine was very difficult to reach and still won't budge. Tried heat for 10 seconds, then 20 seconds still nothing. I might try 30 seconds next, but will try soaking with pb blaster every hour or so and try tomorrow. Bummer! was supposed to go 140 miles somewhere on Monday. Anyway, anyone else have problem with intermediate? Can't believe this was the difficult part of the job. I was looking at CN90's intermediates, his looking further out of the engine than mine. I have about 2 or 3" of working room max. Not easy with wrenchs. But since I cut off the hose, I am now using an 18mm deep socket to hold/leverage one end of the hose, but that damned 11mm is just getting more rounded. The flare wrench and regular wrench, even though craftsman, are giving and rounding the nut.
Last edited by MJB9; 05-19-2012 at 04:58 PM.
Does anyone know how long hard pipes 5 or 6 are? I looked up the parts online, but all I see is special order and "no image available," so I can't tell how long 5 or 6 is. The joint must be somewhere outside of the engine bay, but most likely after the wheel well, heading to rear of the car. I'm just not sure where to look for the connection joint, and try to remove the hard line from there, and pull the line out of the car. I think if I can get the hard line out (without cutting), I can then get better grips on the intermediate 11mm connection and finally remove the hose.
UPDATE: My older son came out to try. Using a small vice grip (didn't have large one), and two of us (one on each end tugging), it cracked free (rusted a little inside, possible loctite). It's free. going to finish job now. :-) Lesson learned, start early, plan on contingencies, and don't give up. And possibly a new set of eyes (hands) to help. Perhaps if I soaked the intermediates a week early like the other lines, it owuld have been easier. But from what I read, the intermediate hoses should have been the simplest. Another lesson learned--don't under-estimate a DIY job. :-)
Also, I was kicking myself in the moment for not remembering to let my tank run low--just in case I messed up, or a part didn't come off, and I had to remove the tank. Fortunately I didn't, but if I had to remove the tank, it would have been 100% full (filled night before--duh). :-)
Last edited by MJB9; 05-21-2012 at 04:21 PM.
All done. Just drove around for a while. I'd say maybe 10% to 20% MAX improvement in pedal stiffness, but I did for proactive maintenance with rears cracking a bit.
Last edited by MJB9; 05-20-2012 at 03:55 PM.
Why you guys didnt save your time and buy rebuilt ones ? Is there any benefit of doing it yourself ?
I mean rebuilding the caliper.
Thank you
Also, there have been rare cases of leaks after buying a rebuilt caliper. The Quality Control varies from store to store.
When YOU rebuild the caliper as mentioned in the first thread, you know you put in OEM ATE Made-in Germany seals!
I was reading for Nugeon and will give it a try. Dont have a garage and will replace it @friends.
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When members of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry stopped in Brandon yesterday, one of their stops was the veterans' memorial at 11th Street and Victoria Avenue.
For several weeks, PPCLI has been marking its centennial with a baton relay from Edmonton to Ottawa. They're marking the 100th anniversary by retracing the route of their initial marshalling for service, on the eve of the First World War, in 1914.
As you'll read in today's paper, they arrived in Brandon yesterday — part of two-day stay in the area, including Sunday in Shilo. The team set up a centennial display in both places, including a mobile museum and children's inflatable obstacle course.
The baton itself contains the names of 1,866 people who were members of PPCLI and died during active service.
A centennial is, of course, notable. And we applaud the men and women who are relaying this baton all the way from Edmonton to Ottawa.
But we were also struck by the fact that this is the second ceremony in just a few days in the tiny strip of park on the 1000-block of Victoria Avenue.
On Friday, a plaque was unveiled just down from the Veterans Memorial to commemorate another centennial.
That plaque was one of 100 scheduled to be unveiled across the country last week, marking the 100th anniversary of the passage of the War Measures Act in 1914, which authorized so-called "enemy aliens" to be interned in prison camps.
Many of those people were immigrants whose birthplace just happened to have gone to war with England. Here in Brandon, hundreds were jailed for nearly two years at the city's winter fair arena.
Official government records of the First World War internment were, regrettably, destroyed in the 1950s. But it is generally looked upon now as a black mark in our country's history.
The winter fair arena was torn down around 1970.
Afterwards, that lot was home to a Safeway grocery store, with attached bank and liquor store.
Now, of course, it is the still-new-looking home for the Brandon Police Service.
But the police don't have nearly as many "customers" as Safeway did, so the parking lot in the front was a little too large.
It was an excellent idea to turn the front strip of it, along Victoria Avenue, into a small park.
It was an even better idea to create a Brandon Veterans' Memorial.
Unlike most small towns around us, Brandon doesn't have a public cairn or obelisk to mark our contribution to the First and Second World Wars. There is a large memorial, the Cross of Sacrifice, at the Brandon Municipal Cemetery, but it was funded privately in the 1920s (apparently, city government at the time declined to contribute) and is now maintained by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission.
It has also been left up to private groups to create what other memorials exist in Brandon, in particular the trio of memorials in front of the Brandon Armoury, which is just across the street from the veterans' memorial.
Interestingly, the "park" that the Brandon Veterans' Memorial and the internment memorial plaque is in could be considered almost private space as well, since it was carved out of the police station parking lot.
The new parking lot at the Dood Cristall YMCA in downtown Brandon will also feature a "pocket park," including a landscaped grassy areas, a basketball hoop and fitness equipment.
It's a welcome trend, and there are hundreds of parking lots that could use a little more green here and there.
It's also increasingly clear that there is a lot of our civic history that is poorly commemorated, or is not at all.
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say hello to mickey for me bring lots of money:yes:.Enjoy the family time:thumbup:
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Leave all the worries behind and you folks will have a great time down there...
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MIKE PAPANTONIO: The message is clear. "We've moved out in the open right now. This is who we are. We don't want minorities. We don't want Jews, don't even apply to our Party. We've given up on you. We want the NASCAR white guy, and that's all we're going to go after." And that's what their Party's turning into. […]
Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Limbaugh, they know what they stand for. These Republicans that think they're going to change America in a positive way, let's call it what it is: you've become, if you have one of those cards in your pocket, and you don't tear it up, this is what you are. You are a dinosaur racist who simply doesn't have the intellect, doesn't have the capability of changing with the times. You're fearful of changing with the times. You don't have the intellectual capacity to change with the times. It scares you that people are different and you don't know what to do. And that's why you are carrying that Republican card, because you are, in a sense, you're a developmental dimwit.
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Be advised that Papantonio is a frequent contributor to MSNBC. He's even substitute hosted for Ed Schultz.
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I found out at my first prenatal visit on Wednesday (2 days ago) that i had a "missed miscarriage." (i was technically 8 weeks preg). there was no heartbeat and not even any developing fetus, just an empty amniotic sac.
ive mostly come to terms with the loss emotionally, or at least i feel that way now. my main concern at the moment is what to do next.... so far my body hasn't passed anything. my ob (who is great, but leans to the intervention side) is strongly encouraging me to get a d&c asap. his reasons are that (1) its "easier" (over after a day, don't have to go through a longtime of heavy bleeding, cramping; (2) more predictable (if i wait it could happen at anytime, may have to wait a couple of more weeks; (3) allows us to test the contents to help figure out why this happened; and (4) would prevent the risk that ill end up with hemmoraging that will turn into an emergency situation if i just let nature take its course.
i feel torn though because i worry about the risks of d&c, future fertility, etc., and also am SUPER afraid of general anesthesia and spinal anesthesia and i would have to definitely use one or the other. the hospital said its so painful they dont even allow anyone to do it with just local. i did a totally drug free birth that lasted 30 hours with back labor and they said that would be a walk in the park compared to a d&c even with local.
my ob insists that even putting convienence aside, overall he thinks going the d&c route is safest. but i dont know about that. im so worried about making a wrong decision and so confused about what to do.
i tried to find a more appropriate thread but couldn't find one, so maybe someone here has gone through this, or else can tell me where to post!!!
thanks in advance.
First of all, I am so sorry to hear about your loss. You are dealing with the practical now, and we are all here for you to help you dea with the emotional!
ok now... take my advice with a grain of salt because of course this decision is totally personal in the end.
Go with the D&C. I have a good friend who has been through both kinds of miscarriages, she leans towards non-intervention, and she said she would choose the D&C over regular passing anytime. The D&C *is* safe physically, and emotionally easier. This is my friend's opinion, who has gone through it.
When my other friend got an abortion (which is essentially a D&C... just to explain the comparison!!! because you are having a miscarriage, not an abortion) we researched the hell out of the risks because we were worried about her future fertility and came to the conclusion... it really is so safe.
That is my opinion.
Strength to you during this difficult time!
I'm so sorry for your loss...
I just wanted to chime in here. I have had two miscarriages, both did not happen naturally for me. The first was a blighted ovum, which sounds like yours, and the second the baby had stopped growing at 10w5d. The first I tried to let pass naturally, but after a week or two I couldn't take the waiting and had the D&C. They were able to do chromosome testing and although they did not find anything abnormal, it was more comforting to me than not knowing at all. The other thing I was surprised that they were able to tell me was that the embryo was female. I was shocked at first, because I was not expecting them to be able to tell me that because there was no embryo to be seen, but again it helped me have some closure in the end.
The second time I chose to have a D&C right away because I knew that they would be able to do testing again. They did, and again, nothing abnormal but I did learn the baby was a boy.
Both of my D&C's went fine, my doctor is a wonderful surgeon and I have not had any problems and it has not harmed my reproductive future. I had pain afterwords when passing a few clots, but I wouldn't say it was unbearably painful. I did have general anesthesia but I also had the option (not at my hospital, but at a women's clinic) of having local. I personally could not do just local because you can then hear everything going on and that would be unbearable to me.
I'm so sorry you have to make this decision...
K, Momma to A(born still 8/22/00), DD A(1/31/06) and DS A(3/13/08), and Baby A (2/2/12)
oh, i am so sorry for your loss.. i've also had a blighted ovum. it's such a disappointment.
i chose to have a d & e for several reasons:
i was far enough along where my ob thought it would be a passage of lots of material, which can be painful
my ob said it could be several more weeks before the actual passage of the material began. i couldn't stand the thought of waiting for it to happen
i am older, and wanted to ttc as soon as possible.
i found the d & e to be super fast and pretty painless.. i was nursing my dd at the time, and i wasn't kept under long enough to disrupt or bother nursing nor did i take pain meds besides tylenol. from what i hear from others, the natural m/c can be more painful, and physical recovery before ttc can be more lengthy in addition to waiting for it to start.
either way, i would NOT recommend using the drug that encourages the m/c to start-- i have known two friends who tried that and the m/c did not complete and they ended up with a d & e anyway.
your concern was that you feared the general anesthesia-- you're under such a short time, less than you would be for wisdom teeth removal.. there's none of that 'hung over' feeling you might get for a longer procedure. i really felt no ill effects besides slight drowsiness later. otherwise i agree with what your ob said, aside from #4. LOTS of people (see the board recommendation i put below) have passed naturally and the worst thing that happens is that something is retained, leading to a d & e. i have never read of anyone hemmoraging.
for support and other info, on mdc, i found the ttc after a loss group extremely supportive, for when you're ready to TTC again. i love those mamas. there's also a pregnancy loss forum where you can post this question and get maybe some more answers & lots of support.
i hope you recover quickly no matter what you elect to do. big hugs.
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I had a D & C this past week. I was 9 weeks pregnant. It was the right decision for me. I wrote up my experience and posted it to the birth loss thread. There are many miscarriage stories on that thread. The stories might help you with your decision.
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I'm so sorry to hear your sad news, big healing hugs to you. I, too, had a missed miscarriage, I only found out about it, though, when I had already started spotting, went for U/S and no heartbeat, so things were already underway. I was 9 1/2 weeks along and baby hadn't progressed further than 6 weeks. The spotting increased later that day and the next, nothing painful, just quite a lot of blood. The following morning I had a sudden bout of cramps and then passed a large clot, spotted for 2 weeks, and that was it. I don't like doctors and hospitals and am "glad" that i wasn't faced with your decision, it wouldn't be easy for me to choose, as I'm sure its not for you, either. you've got some excellent advice above, all i can do is wish you peace and eventual healing. It sounds like those that chose D and C have not regretted that choice and have been relatively comfortable through the process. to you and for your little one.
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I am so so sorry. My heart goes out to you.
Having tried this multiple times, I'd say go for the D&C.
I'm so sorry for your loss. :-( Before this pregnancy, I miscarried in February on Valentines Day. It's likely that the embryo was never growing properly, maybe never had a heartbeat... I don't really know because I started passing everything 2 days before my first prenatal appt. I was 7.5 weeks. Since mine started naturally, obviously I went that route, but it was very painful. Somewhat traumatizing I think. It took me a really long time to get over it, and I can't say that I even am. DH and I started TTC right away and this baby is due early Feb, and all I can think about it hoping this baby can bring happiness to that time for me again.
If I had another loss and hadn't started m/c naturally, I would go for a D&C. The waiting alone would kill me. I just couldn't wait for it to be over and get on with my life.
Jesse, mama to my three wonderful boys, our newest born at home late Jan 2012
I am sorry. Had a missed miscarriage in December, and ended up going with a D&C after trying Misoprostol, which did not work. The D&C was quick and painless, but it didn't come without any emotional baggage. It left me feeling very worried about scar tissue, as well as just dealing with the miscarriage in general. I think because I was only 10 week along, I tried to convince myself that I shouldn't be feeling as sad as I was, and I ended up repressing a lot of feelings that kept coming back up.
I hope you are able to find some peace and make a decision that feels right for you. My best piece of "advice" is to really allow yourself to mourn the baby and take time to heal.
I am so very sorry you are going through this. My heart aches for you.
My first pregnancy ended in a missed miscarriage. The baby did not develop passed 9.5 weeks, but I was nearly 12 weeks pregnant when we learned this from an ultrasound. It was devastating to say the least.
I waited two weeks and nothing happened. Finally, when I would have been 14 weeks along, I opted for a D&C, and I am so glad that I did. I went under general anesthesia and didn't have any problems. The procedure was over pretty quickly and I had very little bleeding afterwards. For me, having the D&C was healing because I knew I had been carrying this sweet little baby for so long after it passed away, and was just ready to get the next part of my healing process going. The waiting game was getting to be too difficult. And as far as fertility, we waited three months before trying again for another baby, and became pregnant the very first month we tried. I had a healthy baby girl 9 months later, so the procedure did not affect my fertility at all.
I've never had a spontaneous miscarriage, but from what friends have told me, it is very painful, and can last over the course of a few days. I've never heard of someone hemorrhaging from a miscarriage, but I suppose it's possible. I have, however, heard of women retaining part of the pregnancy and then having to have a D&C anyway to remove the rest of the tissue.
I hope you are able to come to a decision that feels right for you. Everyone grieves differently. And I agree with Katie, allow yourself to mourn your loss and give yourself lots of time to heal.
I had a D&C in November 2008. It was the best choice for us. Of course as soon as we found out there was no heartbeat, I started to bleed. But I think it was all wishful thinking. We conceived our DD four months (three cycles as recommended by the doc) later. She's almost 2 now. I have a friend who m/c the summer before and she didn't know she was pregnant. She said the cramps from that was worse then the 30ish hours of labor two years later. But it's all up to the person.
It never gets easier. But good luck with whatever you decide.
Im sorry for your loss mama. I wish you super fertility for the future!
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The company delivered a red hot 15.6% same-store sales gain in FY98, but results for the latest year showed a cooling trend, with comp sales sliding from +8.3% in Q1 to -1.0% in Q4. Overall, FY99 sales inched up 6% to $1.139 billion on a modest 3% gain in comp-store sales. Though some rough weather in the Midwest and Northeast hurt Q4 revenues a bit, generally warmer weather for the quarter should have balanced things out.
With such so-so numbers and no obvious catalysts for improved results, there's just not a lot of reason for investors or shoppers to get excited about Pier 1 at the moment.
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This book was full of excitement and confusion and a lot of warring emotions. It takes you on a ride from fear and betrayal to understanding and acceptance and then of course the dreaded cliffhanger at the end.
The vampire war comes to a climax in this edition and we get to see which side will be triumphant. We get to see how many losses we must suffer in the process and how that takes it's toll on our favorite characters.
Claire is still front and center and being used as a pawn by more than the people you'd expect. She gets caught in the middle time and time again and seems to be always in the wrong place at the wrong time...or is she in the right place?
I love the relationship between her and the housemates. Each relationship being different, but somehow making this tightknit and unique group of friends who would do anything for one another. It's rare to find that kind of friends and it's very satisfying to read about them.
I will continue to read the Morganville Vampire books and I definitely recommend them for fans of the genre.
To protect her friends(as much as possible), Claire has been forced to side with Bishop as the battle for Morganville rages on. After doing what she had to, Claire manages to save Shane, reconcile with Michael, and make up with Eve. Claire and Myrnin also may have discovered a cure to the vampire disease. Now they still have the problem of Bishop controlling the city. To save Morganville, someone unexpected has to pay the ultimate price that leaves the entire town in mourning.
To protect her friends(as much as possible), Claire has been forced to side with Bishop as the battle for Morganville rages on. After doing what she had to, Claire manages to save Shane, reconcile with Michael, and make up with Eve. Claire and Myrnin also may have discovered a cure to the vampire disease. Now they still have the problem of Bishop controlling the city. To save Morganville, someone unexpected has to pay the ultimate price that leaves the entire town in mourning.
So, i freakin love this series. In my opinion they top just about every vampire series out there.
That said, i realise that this book came out about two months ago. I know... i know because i bought it the day it came out.
It's not that it took me two months to read a 200 page book. It's just that if i own a book i do not read it. I don't know why. And it bugs me. But it's the sad truth.
That said, this was, of course, excellent. It was probably the first Morganville book i've read that had an ending that didn't make me want to toss the book across the room (darn.. i actually own this one so i could toss it if i needed too!) So, there's a plus people, it ends well for once!
This one picks up right where 'Lords of Misrule' left off (and it will be so embarrassing if i'm wrong...)
Mr. Bishop has complete control. Both Claire and Michael are his errand boys (... girl in Claire's case.) Shane ad his dad are in prison. Amilie's MIA, and it's all looking pretty much completely hopeless.
Which, you know, i love! Bring on the hopelessness!
There's always a highlighted character for me in books and usually in this series it's Michael and Eve (cause they're probably my favorites. ever.) but i have to say Myrnin was my favorite in this one =D
He's just so awesome! Gotta love a completely insane vampire!
Aaaanyway, i'm way excited for the next book in the series Fade Out. I'll totally buy it... (And read it!!!!.... >.>) I really wish i could read Rachel Caine's other series, the Weather Warden series but i can't find the first one anywhere = .... ohh well, i'm content with Morganville =D
5/5 Stars, as deserved. Really i can't think of a single thing wrong with it. Oh, and favorite line?
"Now, now," he chided her. "Where's your sense of adventure?"
"Off on a beach somewhere with your sanity?..."
I can't believe this series goes on after this book, it seems so finished. Everything tied up in a nice package.
Where does it go from here?? on to Fade Out.
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