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How extremist Israeli settlers celebrate the harvest festival
Sukkot, the Jewish holiday that marks the fall harvest festival and also commemorates 40 years of wandering by ancient Jews in the desert, commences at sundown on Wednesday. Jews throughout the world are building their local Sukkah, a temporary shelter that usually takes the form of a tent. So how are extremist Israeli Jewish settlers celebrating this holiday? By ruining the harvests of Palestinian farmers.
Here is an infuriating summary from News Nosh, (which is, btw, a great new source of news from Israel presented by Americans for Peace Now –get it for free by emailing firstname.lastname@example.com.)
Olive picking season has arrived, meaning extremist settlers have new targets. Sunday was already a big day…Farmers from Farata village, southwest of Nablus, found their olives stolen. Soldiers were meant to coordinate a safe passage from settler attacks for villagers to pick olives but canceled due to a shortage in numbers, an official said. Meanwhile in [the] Yanun village, southeast of Nablus near Itamar, dozens of settlers attacked farmers and blocked them from their lands to harvest olives. Israeli army coordination to protect farmers has been postponed until Oct. 21. To the east of Nablus, settlers from Elon Moreh cut down 45 olives trees in Deir al-Hatab village. South of Nablus, dozens of Itamar settlers threw rocks at farmers who were trying to pick olives near the village of Awarta and stole harvest equipment. These clashes were reported in the Israeli press because the land – which lies inside the fence of Itamar settlement belongs to the extended Awwad family, two of whose members murdered the Fogel family six months ago. At least three Palestinians were injured.
These attacks are not necessarily related to the "price tag" campaign that has been launched by extremist settlers trying to demonstrate that any attempts to dismantle settlements will be met with violence. The annual festival of harassing Palestinians during olive season–as well as other seasons–has been going on for years in the West Bank. Here is one documented by B'Tselem in 2002. Here is another in 2006.
To their credit, like Israeli officials, mainstream American Jewish leaders condemned the price tag vigilantes after the widely publicized defacement of a mosque in Israel proper last week. But I don't recall anyone in the American Jewish establishment condemning the routine, vicious harassment of Palestinian farmers in the West Bank. Doing so during this holiday week of Succot would be a powerful signal that the American Jewish community –my community–is not wandering around in a moral desert.
Topics: American Jews, Americans for Peace Now, Israel, Israeli settlements, Palestinians | 19 Comments »
By Dan Fleshler | October 10, 2011
Defiant dreamers of Arab-Jewish co-existence
Is it remotely possible to close the gaps between Jewish and Arab citizens of Israel?
62% of Palestinian Arabs living in Israel believe that Israeli Jews "are foreigners who do not fit in this region, and they will eventually leave the country,†according to a recently released poll by Haifa University's Jewish-Arab Center. A similar proportion opposes Israel's continued existence as a Jewish Zionist state.
Meanwhile, 68.1% of Israeli Jews told the pollsters that they oppose public commemorations of what Arabs call the Nakba, the "catastrophe" that occured when Palestinian refugees fled or were expelled in 1948. 53 percent say the state has the right to encourage Arab citizens to emigrate, and 62 percent say as long as the conflict continues, Arab voters should have no say in Israeli foreign policy, according to another poll by the Israel Democracy Institute.
Gaps in the narratives are matched by disparities in income and educational achievement as well as systemic discrimination against Israeli Arabs. How in the world can these people ever live together?
That is the kind of Big Question that Nasi Masrawa, the mayor of the Arab Israeli town of Kfar Kara, and Haim Gaash, the mayor of the nearby Jewish town of Pardes Hanna-Karkur, refuse to answer. Instead, last Tuesday evening at Congregation Ansche Chesed in New York City, they described a project that appears to be less ambitious but is in fact extraordinarily difficult: their townspeople are working together to solve the concrete, day-to-day problems shared by both communities. It is an initiative of Givat Haviva, an Israeli institute that works to promote coexistence and equality between all Israeli citizens.
Until recently, few people from Pardes Hanna-Karkur and Kfar Kara had anything to do with each other, although these towns in Israel's Wadi Ara region northeast of Hadera are ten minutes apart. But thanks to the "Shared Communities†program, groups of women, teenagers and elderly men from each town have been meeting to choose and then plan joint projects that will help improve daily lives.
Maswara votes for Hadash, the left wing Arab-Jewish party, and said, "I cannot sing Hatikva.†Gaash votes for the centrist Kadima party. "We will never agree on the history, or on politics,†according to Masrawa. If their constituents had started talking about politics and The Situation in the occupied territories when they first met, there would have been "a big fight…But they can work together to make small changes.â€
Both display a modesty that is almost defiant, a message that is the antithesis of spin. "We don't use the word `co-existence.' That's a word from the `peace industry,'" said Gaash. He used to be part of that industry, the civil society groups that strive to find grand diplomatic solutions. He was the executive in charge of building grassroots support for an agreement to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict reached by Sari Nusseibah, a moderate Palestinian nationalist academic, and Ami Ayalon, former head of Israel's internal security services. He gave up and became a small town mayor. â€We are just trying to help people get to know each other and improve their communities.â€
There used to be more interaction between Israel's Arab and Jewish citizens. But since 2000, when the intifadeh begun by West Bank Palestinians sparked riots and turmoil in the areas of Israel proper where many Arabs reside, the mutual isolation has deepened. Nearly 68% of Israeli Jews told the Haifa University pollsters that they avoided driving through Arab towns and villages. By encouraging contact and joint projects, both Gaash and Misrawa hope they can reduce tensions and slowly develop a sense of a shared future.
Thus far, aided by facilitators from Givat Haviva, the women's group has decided to bring professionals into both communities to deal with a range of problems confronting female children, from eating disorders to parental conflicts. They will also create a joint cookbook. Needing productive after-school activities, the teenagers will start a joint theater group. The retirees are working on finding recreational activities for elderly men. They decided to encourage joint games of pétanque, a French game that resembles bocci..
But the tensions are so profound that even those seemingly simple activities have met with resistance in both towns. "Many people don't want us to try,†said Masrawa, a lawyer. And that is why, he said, "we dare not fail.â€
The resistance and skepticism comes not only from local people. In recent years, some NGOs in Israel as well as American Jewish donors concerned about the plight of Israel's Arabs have grown very skeptical of dialogue and co-existence programs. Getting people together to chat and sing "Kumbaya,†I have heard them say, does not address the second-class citizenship of Israeli Arabs. More systemic change, more economic opportunity and political empowerment for Arabs, is necessary.
Of course it is. But it's also true that if these two peoples have no contact and no common language to address everyday challenges, and if they assume that their dramatically different narratives make it impossible to share their country, and if nothing is done to dispel tension and fear and hatred, "it will just take one match to make a big explosion,†Gaash told me.
Givat Haviva has been doing the seemingly old-fashioned work of Arab-Jewish dialogue—among other things–for decades, and now it is more important than ever. Already, mayors from six other neighboring towns –three Jewish, and three Arab—have asked it to start similar programs. Riad Kabha, the former mayor of the Arab town of Ba'arta who runs the organization's Arab-Jewish Peace Center, hopes this is the beginning of a "grassroots movement†of collaborative problem-solving that will expand to many other divided communities.
Masrawa bristles at the idea that the program involves dialogue for the sake of dialogue. In an interview, he was a bit more ambitious than he had been in public. He said discrimination against Israeli Arabs was terrible and beyond his ken to address. But if he and others could show Israeli Jews that it was possible to work productively with their Arab neighbors, that Arabs were responsible citizens, it might wear away stereotypes. And that, in turn, might make political support for far reaching, systemic change more likely.
Meanwhile, politicians, academics and activists keep proposing more comprehensive solutions. Some Israeli Knesset members and NGOs insist that Israel should be defined as a state for all of its citizens, not a Jewish state. Israel's Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman favors the ugly idea of transferring Israeli territory with Arab residents –including part of the Wadi Ara region—to a Palestinian state. In the latest Forward, Ilan Peleg and Dov Waxman offer some sensible policy suggestions, such as aggressive affirmative action to help Israel's Arabs, ensuring that Arab institutions are included in "the state's decision-making processes†and recognizing the Arab community "as a national minority with collective rights.â€
It is hard to believe any of these will be implemented in the near future. But no matter what happens, these two peoples need to figure out how to live together. Maybe, just maybe, tangible change could start from the grassroots, from ordinary people willing to ignore their differences, from shared community programs insistently spreading throughout the country, defying the extremists who despise co-existence and the cynics who mock it.
Topics: Arabs, Israel, Israeli Arabs | 104 Comments »
By Dan Fleshler | June 20, 2011
Two mayors, two communities, two peoples
If you are in New York City on Tuesday evening, June 14th, this event, "Two Mayors, Two Communities, Two Peoples: Building Bridges in the Middle East" is worth checking out. It is at Ansche Chesed, 251 West 100th Street, at 7:30 PM.
Nazia Masrawa is the mayor of the Arab Israeli town of Kfar Qara. Chaim Gaash is the mayor of the nearby Jewish Israeli town of Pardes Hanna-Karkur. Until recently, the two communities had little to do with each other. Now, thanks to a program started by Givat Haviva, they are putting aside their differences and working together on a host of shared problems.
It is co-sponsored by the Givat Haviva Educational Foundation, Congregation Ansche Chesed, the Interfaith Center of New York and the Advent Lutheran Church.
Topics: Israel | 4 Comments »
By Dan Fleshler | June 3, 2011
Obama's gutsy, principled Middle East speech
Everyone agrees President Obama made a gutsy political call when he ordered the Navy Seals team to take out Osama bin Laden. There would have been a fierce backlash if the mission had failed. But he's not getting credit for demonstrating even more political courage by calling for an Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement based on Israel's borders before the 1967 war, with agreed-upon land swaps.
Just before Obama's speech on the Middle East yesterday, Prime Minister Netanyahu had angrily "demanded†that the "reference to the 1967 borders be cut,†the New York Times reported. So Obama must have known that he was inviting a firestorm. Yet he decided that America's interest in Middle East peace and stability trumped the short-term political gain he could have derived from saying nothing, doing nothing, and avoiding the wrath of right-wing American Jews and the politicians who pander to them.
Obama must have known that Republicans like Mitt Romney would accuse him of throwing Israel "under the bus.†He must have been aware that he was going to tangle with an Israeli Prime Minister who has never hidden his willingness to use American domestic politics as a tool to undermine U.S. Presidents. Netanyahu quickly criticized Obama right after the speech, calling the 1967 borders "indefensible,†even though Obama clearly was not calling for Israel to withdraw all the way back to those borders. When Bibi speaks to AIPAC on Sunday and Congress on Monday, although he probably won't openly denounce Obama, he may well find ways to throw the American president under the bus, given his past behavior.
When Bibi was the Israeli opposition leader in the mid-1990s, he and his Likud operatives openly lobbied Congress to block the Clinton administration's efforts to aid the Oslo peace process. In September, 1998, before he went to the White House during his first official visit to Washington as the newly elected Prime Minister, Netanyahu conspicuously met with Bill Clinton's avowed political enemies: Jerry Falwell, Newt Gingrich and an adoring rally of the National Unity Coalition for Israel, a far-right Christian evangelical group. As the New York Jewish Week week reported at the time, "`[Bibi] was blatant about the fact that this trip had less to do with diplomacy than public relations,†said a 20-year veteran of the pro-Israel wars. `For him to meet with Gingrich and Falwell before he met with the president — and for him to choose to make his initial speech to a group that continues to bitterly attack Clinton — was a virtual declaration of war.'â€
Yet Obama decided he would risk such a war and articulate a policy that, he believed, was in the interest of Americans, Israelis, Palestinians and the entire world. Now, cool heads might prevail in the American and Israeli governments and American Jewish community, and a direct confrontation could be avoided. The last thing AIPAC wants is a public battle between the Israeli and American governments; its primary goal is to solidify U.S.-Israel relations. It's also quite possible that, if the current squabbling does continue, Obama won't pay the steep domestic political price that some are predicting. American Jewish voters are solidly behind Obama, and only a small minority of them make Israel their first priority when assessing political candidates. The rise of J Street, a promising alternative to the conventional Israel lobby, has provided at least some political wiggle room for Obama to take stances on Israel that are supported by the liberal American Jewish majority –as he did in his recent speech.
But Democrats are very worried about diminished Jewish political donations and they don't want Israel to be a wedge issue in the Congressional races. Obama decided to put those worries aside and did what he thought was right for America, Israel and the rest of the Middle East. The far left and much of the Arab media, predictably, did not think Obama's speech was tough enough on Israel. But they don't pay any attention to either Israel's security needs or American political realities. I wish he had been bolder, and laid out the parameters of a settlement a bit more clearly. But coming on the heels of his order to take out bin Laden, Obama has given convincing answers to those who say he lacks the intestinal fortitude and temperament needed to make painfully difficult, principled foreign policy decisions.
Topics: American foreign policy, Barack Obama, Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel, Israeli occupation | 46 Comments »
By Dan Fleshler | May 20, 2011
On the Hamas-Fatah pact, which "experts" should we believe?
JJ Goldberg reported, via Israel's Channel 10, that Prime Minister Netanyahu "has instructed his cabinet ministers to stick to a single message regarding the Fatah-Hamas reconciliation agreement [announced last week and signed today in Cairo]…The message: "there is no possible positive component in the reconciliation agreement.†That's right: Cabinet ministers are forbidden even to speculate on any conceivable upside.â€
Apparently Netanyahu's attempts to demolish government-sanctioned hope didn't work. Haaretz reported that:
An internal, confidential Foreign Ministry report advises that the creation of a Fatah-Hamas unity government in the Palestinian Authority would offer Israel a strategic opportunity. The views expressed in the paper are clearly counter to those expressed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu…
"The Palestinian move is not only a security threat but also a strategic opportunity to create genuine change in the Palestinian context," the report states. "Such change may serve the long-term interests of Israel…"
And here is another expert who harbors hope, via Bloomberg:
"Participation in the Palestinian government and the holding of elections will also create more serious pressure on Hamas to work for quiet in the Gaza Strip, which in turn can help advance the diplomatic process,†Shlomo Brom, head of the program on Israel-Palestinian relations at the Tel Aviv-based Institute for National Security Studies, said in a paper he circulated by e-mail on the agreement.
They might be wrong. Efraim Halevy, the former Mossad chief who for years has been urging talks with Hamas, might also be wrong. But the same thing is true of the naysayers who are predicting disastrous consequences from this accord. It is a mistake to accept on faith any assertions of any so-called experts on the Middle East, including Israeli officials. If the last few years have taught us anything, it is that the only certainty in the Middle East is uncertainty.
None of the Middle East experts anticipated the sudden reconciliation of Fatah and Hamas. Even Mahmoud Abbas was surprised. None of the experts –including reportedly, the Mossad– anticipated the uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt. None of them –including pollsters and Hamas leaders –predicted the Hamas victory in the Palestinian legislative elections in 2006.
So why accept all the confident assertions that nothing positive could possibly develop from this agreement? There is, of course, a very strong case to be made for pessimism. Shimon Peres might have been right when he called the Hamas-Fatah agreement "a fatal mistake…Signing this agreement that will result in elections in another year is liable to allow a terrorist group to control [not only] Gaza [but also] Judea and Samaria… Hamas is not changing its spots…It is not ceasing to be a terrorist group that serves Iran and smuggles weapons.â€
Makes sense. But he can't be certain. No one, except perhaps for the leaders of Hamas, can be certain of what they are going to do and how they are going to act, and I am not sure that they know.
If I were coerced into betting, I would probably bet on more gloom and bloodshed. I would bet, for example, that the relatively successful, joint security apparatus established by the Palestinian Authority and Israel will collapse.
But it makes no sense to bet on anything yet.
Jeroen Gunning claims that there is "a constituency within Hamas which considers compromise on one core goal (liberating all of Palestine) acceptable, if this means Hamas is in a better position to fulfil its other core goals of making Palestinian society more Islamic, increasing social justice and eradicating corruption.â€
Isn't there at least a slim chance that he is right?
Isn't there at least a chance that, under the auspices of new and obviously ambitious Egyptian interlocuters, the new Palestinian unity government will find a way to free Gilad Shalit? Or that Hamas-Fatah will surprise the world by tamping down on terrorists and rocketeers? Or that, if Palestinian elections do take place, Abbas, Salaam Fayyad and Fatah will win? Or that –before or after the elections–, for the sake of its own political survival, Hamas will decide to give Abbas the leeway to enter into serious negotiations with Israel, in either a bilateral or multilateral framework? Or that Hamas will agree to accept the results of a referendum on any agreement Abbas reaches with Israel?
Of course the odds against anything good resulting from a Palestinian unity government are very big. But so were the odds against toppling Mubarak, or, for that matter, creating the Jewish state. Shouldn't the Hamas-Fatah accord at least be given a chance, a careful and cautious test? And if the answer is no, then what is the alternative?
Topics: Arab-Israeli conflict, Fatah, Hamas, Israel, Mahmoud Abbas | 35 Comments »
By Dan Fleshler | May 4, 2011
Thank you for putting J Street on trial
Last Wednesday, a Knesset Committee met in order to determine whether J Street had the right to call itself "pro-Israel.†The Knesset Member who called for the hearing, Otneil Schneller, "told the Forward that being pro-Israel can only mean defending the policy and conduct of the elected government, whatever one's personal opinions.†Therefore, J Street did not pass his litmus test. While my friends and fellow travellers on the American Jewish left denounced the hearing –as did some centrist groups–, I found it edifying and thought-provoking, and was inspired to write the following letter.
Dear Mr. Schneller:
Thank you for helping to orchestrate the hearing on J Street. Even before the proceedings, you had obviously concluded that J Street was not pro-Israel, because you explained to the Jerusalem Post: "American Jewish groups, right or left, should understand that they should maintain full solidarity with Israel overseas –and when [Kadima opposition leader] Tzipi Livni or [leftwing Meretz MK] Haim Oron become prime ministers. I will demand the same loyalty from right-wing groups.â€
Your definition of pro-Israel is not new. But by using an official setting to proclaim that J Street is not Israel's friend, you've provided an opportunity to delve more deeply into what some Israelis "demand" from American Jews, and to receive instructions on exactly how you would like us to behave.
"The code that was broken is more serious than the content†of J Street's positions, you said. So let us now try to define that code more precisely, shall we? It's a code I've been asked to follow all my life, but because you and others who advocate it have never fully defined the rules, I've always found it a bit confusing. Please help me out here. If I understand you correctly, you believe American Jews are pro-Israel only if we:
1) Have no principles, no values of our own. Instead, we must be amoral ventriloquists' dummies, giving voice to whatever the Israeli government says at any given moment. Did I get that right?
Apparently you believe there can be no exceptions to the requirement that we publicly agree with each and every Israeli policy. J Street recently mobilized many hundreds of people to lobby Congress for aid to Israel (and the Palestinian Authority), including the American defense package that will help Israel maintain its qualitative military edge. After initially objecting to sanctions against Iran for various reasons, it eventually threw its weight behind sanctions, a high priority of the Israeli government. But that was not enough for you. You told the J Streeters, â€You are not Zionist and you don't look out for Israel's interests,†and your colleague Danny Danon called them "pro-Palestinian†because they took some stances neither of you liked.
The Zionist Organization of America routinely criticizes the current Israel government and it openly lobbied Congress against the peace policies of Labor-led governments. So, can I assume you believe that it, too, should be banished from the pro-Israel tent? Or do you first need to convene another hearing and grill ZOA President Morton Klein? Will there be a third hearing on American Jews who quietly fund illegal settlement outposts? I would be eager to hear Mr. Danon, an advocate for the settlers, explain to them why they are his enemies, too.
2) Lobby against the U.S. government's positions whenever Israel disagrees with them, even if we believe our government is acting in the best interests of our own country as well as Israel. For years, we've been hearing that unless we live and vote in Israel, unless we serve in your army, we have no right to publicly disagree with official Israeli policies. Now, Israelis who don't live here and don't vote here are instructing us on how to participate in America's political process, what to say to our own President and Congressional reps. Is that correct?
3) Ignore the steady drift of young people from the American Jewish community. One reason they are leaving is that they cannot defend what they consider to be morally indefensible, like the fact that your government permits the rousting of Palestinians out of their houses in East Jerusalem to make room for Jewish settlers. Many young American Jews want a home where they can call themselves pro-Israel and feel pride in being Jewish without sacrificing universal moral values. J Street, Americans for Peace Now, Ameinu and like-minded groups try to provide that home.
But you would like us to ignore the challenge completely and deny them that home, right? I am committed to Israel's future because I am committed to the Jewish people and its survival, but you don't have the slightest bit of concern about the survival of our community here, do you? In fact, you openly demeaned it, comparing "the mentality of exile with that of redemption.†Is your ultimate goal to dramatically shrink the number of American Jews who care about Israel and the Jewish people? That is a truly revolutionary approach to Israel-Diaspora relations and to securing Israel's future. In fact, I am going to urge my local Federation to convene a hearing and invite you to expound upon this idea.
4) Accept the proposition that as American citizens we have the right to publicly object to the policies and behavior of countries throughout the world, but the one country we are forbidden to criticize is Israel, the homeland of the Jewish people, whose actions are taken in our name.
During his testimony at your star chamber…I mean, your hearing, J Street Board Chair Davidi Gilo said, "I shall finish with a quotation from the words of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, at a conference of `Taglit' Jewish young adults in 2003: `I want you to know that Israel is not just an Israeli project. Israel is a Jewish universal project. It is yours no less than it is ours and you share the responsibility for what will happen here. No, you don't have to carry the whole burden upon your shoulders, but it is your responsibility, because whatever will happen in the future in the state of Israel, will influence the lives of Jews the world over.'"
I do not believe you responded to that quote, or to that concept. Do you agree with it? Or do you think Israel is the universal Jewish project but we should not say a word when we believe the project has gone awry, just continue to keep our mouths shut and our checkbooks open?
I look forward to your clarifications. I want to be "pro-Israel,†I really do, but I need more guidance from Israelis like you who have obviously thought deeply about the nuances and complexities of life in the Diaspora.
Dan Fleshler
Topics: Ameinu, American Jews, Americans for Peace Now, Israel, Israeli settlements, J Street | 82 Comments »
By Dan Fleshler | March 29, 2011
When pro-Israel American Jews say, "This is wrong!"
More than 2,000 American Jews attended the national J Street conference last weekend in DC, determined to do something to change the discourse within the Jewish community and affect American policy. I've waited a week to write about this because I wanted to gauge others' reactions and sort out what I experienced at the conference.
Predictably, right-wing Jewish bloggers like David Horowitz and Jennifer Rubin objected when many attendees enthusiastically applauded vehement criticisms of the occupation and the Israeli government, depicting a cabal of malevolent Israel-haters who thought the Jewish state was solely responsible for scuttling the peace process with the Palestinians.
Indeed, there was no shortage of people who were angry at the plight of the Palestinians and Israel's contributions to the current diplomatic impasse. But the very boisterous left wingers at the conference, people who were much more comfortable hanging out with radical Israeli human rights activists than with Kadima and Labor Party MKs, were not as numerous as media reports contend. Many attendees were more centrist, including savvy Democratic Party activists and donors, as well as the likes of Ken Bob, the President of Ameinu, who spoke out forcefully against BDS during a panel discussion.
That said, it is certainly true that the left wing of J Street is loud and energetic. And that creates a challenge for an organization that needs to appeal to at least some in the mainstream American Jewish community in order to achieve its political goal, which is to give the Obama Administration and Congress more leeway to disagree with Israel from time to time. Check out Bruce Levine's comments to my previous post for the reactions of a liberal American Jew who clearly wanted to support J Street but has become alienated (See comments 40 and 41). J Street needs him, and needs to figure out a way to bring him back.
As the Forward's Nathan Guttman puts it, "J Street faces a sometimes difficult balancing act in appealing to those in Washington and in the organized Jewish community while also meeting the expectations of the left-leaning activists who make up its base."
James Besser asks, "Can J Street keep its core members happy while working to reassure members of Congress who may be inclined to support it that it won't get them in political hot water?"
That is a very good question. But it isn't the only question, and it might not be the most important one.
The activists on J Street's left wing don't pose a challenge only to the organization's leaders. They, and the many Jews who agree with them, also pose a relatively new challenge to the mainstream, organized American Jewish community, which hasn't a clue about how to deal with them.
One reason for J Street's impressive growth has gone largely unnoticed. More and more American Jews who feel committed to Israel's safety and survival are angry at Israel and are willing to say so. And they are willing to assert publicly, in no uncertain terms, that some Israeli behavior is just plain wrong. For quite some time, in all kinds of American Jewish settings, it has been perfectly acceptable to claim that Israel's settlement policies jeopardize its security or its future as a Jewish democracy. But to say that Israel and Israelis sometimes violate moral and ethical values is quite different, and still quite daring.
More and more human rights organizations in Israel are doing so. Their values are shared by a broad swath of American Jews who are most definitely not anti-Zionists or haters of Israel. They infuriate the far left as well as the far right. They are emotionally connected to the Jewish state and care about its well-being. My impression is that the vast majority of them understand that the current situation is not all Israel's fault, and that Palestinians and their leaders are also culpable. But they no longer want to keep their mouths shut about what is rotten in the Palestinian territories, such as the abuses by Israeli soldiers reported by Breaking the Silence, the collective deprivations caused by the seige of Gaza, the rousting of Palestinians out of their homes in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem.
What are American synagogues and traditional Jewish community groups going to do about these people? These institutions have had a hard enough time giving podiums to official representatives from J Street and Americans for Peace Now, who have not been allowed to speak in some synagogues and shouted down in others. Now the institutions are faced with an even tougher challenge. What are they going to do about all the unofficial, spirited grassroots activists who insist that they are pro-Israel, who get fired up and angered by human rights abuses, and who are motivated to speak out mainly because Israel is becoming a country that does not conform to their core values, their decidedly Jewish values? Will any part of the American Jewish mainstream even try to find a place for them in the communal tent? Or will the Jewish establishment just ignore them, try to wish them away?
Right now, in my community, except in a small minority of synagogues and meetings of left-leaning American Jewish groups, one is simply not allowed to talk about the moral cost of ruling over another people. If that taboo is not broken, an entire generation of young, articulate people who should have a place somewhere in the traditional Jewish community will look elsewhere for a home.
I have a recurring, probably crazy dream: somehow, in the forums of the organized Jewish world, at least in many more Reform and Conservative synagogues, some room will be made for a vocabulary of right and wrong when discussion turns to the occupation. A more inclusive protocol will let into the conversation the conference attendees–many of them college kids–who eagerly applauded when Daniel Levy told them, "You can't be a friend of Arab freedom and be on the wrong side of Palestinian freedom." Those very same people also lobbied Congress for aid to Israel (and the Palestinian Authority). Watch and listen to the testimonies of conference attendees on this web site. All of them want to help Israel. Call them misguided if you want, but make room for them!
Topics: American Jews, Israel, Israeli occupation, Israeli settlements, J Street, Palestinians, Zionism | 16 Comments »
By Dan Fleshler | March 5, 2011
Why the Jewish right is terrified by J Street's conference
J Street, the political arm of the American Jewish pro-Israel, pro-peace movement, will convene its second national conference on Saturday night. There will be an enormous turnout. An organizer told me that about 2100 people are pre-registered (at their last conference, only 850 people were pre-registered but 1500 people showed up). There will be about 500 students from 100 campuses.
Why are all of these people converging? There are many reasons. They are desperate to find hope in what often seems like a hopeless mess in Israel and the territories. They want answers to troubling questions, like, "Is the 2-state solution dead?" and "What, in God's name. can the U.S. do to help?" They want community. They want inspiration. They crave ideas for mobilizing somnolent American Jews and cowardly U.S. politicians. I'm going, and I want all of those things.
This won't be quite as large as AIPAC's legendary policy conferences, but AIPAC has had more than 50 years to build momentum; J Street is only three year old.
So what is the reaction from the American Jewish and Israeli right? Abject terror.
There is no other way to explain the panicky screeds on the right-wing Judeo blogosphere. Check out these widely-publicized riffs from Noah Pollak of the Emergency Committee for Israel and the permanently truculent folks at Front Page magazine. I won't dignify all their arguments and character assassinations by conveying them here, but one of their objections to the conference is that some of the speakers are, gasp, Arabs who are unhappy with Israel!
American Jews, you see, are not supposed to listen to Arabs who are unhappy with Israel, people with different narratives and perspectives than those of the pro-Israel community, people like James Zogby or Mustafa Barghouti. Spend three minutes reading about Barghouti here, and you will learn about the kind of impassioned, articulate Palestinian nationalist that not all Israelis like very much. But surely all Israelis need to figure out how to live with a neighbor like Mustafa Barghouti.
But Americans Jews, you see, are not allowed to hear him speak. Perish the thought! And, of course, if an organization gives him a podium, that automatically means the organization endorses each and every one of his views. That is an enduring principle of the Jewish thought police. He will be speaking at a panel on Hamas, summarized as follows: "Hamas remains in control of the Gaza Strip, armed and opposed to the existence of the State of Israel. What is the best way to counter the threat posed by Hamas? Is reconciliation between Hamas and Fatah a prerequisite to peace, or would it make peace more difficult to achieve? Can Hamas be neutralized by undermining its popular support among Palestinians or splitting its moderate elements from its militants?†It would make perfect sense to exclude Palestinians from the ground who actually know what they are talking about from such a panel, wouldn't it?
American Jews are not supposed to hear from Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish, the physician and friend to many Israeli moderates whose daughters were tragically killed by Israeli forces during Operation Cast Lead. Perish the thought! We must not hear about his experiences or his lovely, lost daughters because, Front Page asserts, he denounced the Israelis but not Hamas. We must run the other way if we see him coming.
Front Page sums up the other principal objection: "Any illusion that J Street has included these speakers merely to give insight into "the other side†is dispelled by the roster of Jewish speakers scheduled to speak at `Giving Voice to Your Values.' All are leftists, and most are even more radically anti-Israel than the Islamists who will appear.†There are certainly a lot of leftists, and it is not hard to show that they are, in fact, pro-Israel. But what scares these righties more than anything, I think, is all of the thoroughly mainstream, centrist speakers who are also gracing J Street with their presence: Knesset Members from Kadima; Dennis Ross; Kenneth Pollack of Brookings; Patrick Clawson of the Washington Institute for Near East Peace; Tom Dine, who used to run AIPAC; Ethan Felson of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs; Rabbi David Sapirstein, head of the Religious Action Center of the Reform movement–the largest synagogue movement in the US.
"Censorship reflects a society's lack of confidence in itself," wrote Justice Potter Stewart. And that is what is going on here. We are listening to the sputterings of an insecure right wing that has no answers. They have no suggestions about the Israeli-Palestinian situation other than grim, bloody "conflict management,†which should really be called "nightmare management.†They have no notion of how to preserve the democratic Jewish state. They don't know how to stop the steady drift of young people out of the American Jewish community because what is happening to the Palestinians cannot be reconciled with either Jewish or universal values.
And they are panicking. They want us to put our hands over our ears, like the haredim who don't want to hear women's voices singing, or the fanatics who want to burn down the offices of newspapers that print cartoons of the prophet Muhammed. Sorry folks. It won't work. Thousands of American Jews and others will show up in DC this weekend, eager to hear complicated truths and nuanced arguments, instead of the useless pablum of those who cling to a horrific status quo.
Topics: AIPAC, American Jews, Arab-Israeli conflict, Dan Fleshler, Front Page, Israel, J Street, Noah Pollak, Palestinians | 42 Comments »
By Dan Fleshler | February 25, 2011
Chilling video from Tahrir Square…and chilling rationalizations
Check out the video posted below, from Tahrir Square yesterday. They are chanting "To Jerusalem we are heading, martyrs in the millions."
Then check out the responses to the same video from the gang at Mondo Weiss. A coterie of commentators who think of themselves as proponents of human rights and universal values fall over themselves trying to justify and rationalize the same scene. I don't know which is more chilling–the video, or their reactions.
Topics: anti-Zionism, Egypt, Far left, Israel, MondoWeiss, Tahrir Square | 48 Comments »
By Dan Fleshler | February 19, 2011
Mubarak and the alternate universe of Israel's vicious critics
Events in Egypt have reinforced my sense of living in a different universe than the one inhabited by Israel's most vicious critics (let's call them IMVCs) in the blogosphere. Oh, we have a few things in common. Like them, I am inspired by the Egyptian crowds demanding the overthrow of a tyrant. Like them, I am appalled by the continuing Israeli occupation and settlement expansion and the sufferings of the Palestinian people. But they still appear to reside in a kind of alternate reality, harboring assumptions that do not apply to the universe I know. Here are two of those assumptions:
1-The Israel lobby in the U.S. is the only reason America has propped up Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak and his corrupt regime for so long. This assumption derives from a longtime, reflexive habit of blaming JEWS for what it is wrong with the world.
Early on, when the Egyptian tumult was first getting televised and the U.S. was struggling to formulate a public stance, the increasingly influential Philip Weiss weighed in on MondoWeiss (and then Salon):
Barack Obama's failure to honor the Egyptian protesters in his State of the Union speech Tuesday night, and Joe Biden's cold negativity toward them last night (they're not up against a dictator, we can't encourage them, this is not the awakening of eastern Europe) reveal the unwavering influence of the Israel lobby in our public life, and how conservative that influence is.
The administration's statements reveal that it prefers stability in Egypt, no matter the cost to civil rights and human rights there, to freedom for Arab people. And why? Because Egyptian stability preserves the Israeli status quo, in which Israel gets to imprison West Bank protesters without a peep from the U.S. government and gets to destroy civilians in Gaza again without a peep from the alleged change-agent in the White House.
Weiss jumped the gun. The night after that post, Obama warned Mubarak to avoid violence and stop censoring digital media, sending at least some encouraging signals to the Egyptian protestors. Obama could have given them more, but if the Mubarak-loving Israel lobby were so powerful, surely he would have kept his mouth shut.
What is revealing here is Weiss' eagerness to believe that Israel and its support base in the U.S. was the SOLE explanation for American policies, instead of a very important explanation. Apparently he could not imagine any other reason for U.S. support of Mubarak. There was no mention of the perceived need for stability in order to free up the Suez Canal, which is the conduit for billions of dollars worth of oil and American military vessels. There was nothing about the perceived American need to fight al-Qaeda and violent Islamic extremists (who would exist without Israel), and the plain fact that Mubarak's regime helps in this regard. There was nothing about growing investments from America's private sector in the region. The actual, complex calculus employed by American foreign policy decision makers is inconvenient to Weiss, as it is mitigating evidence against the inherent evil of Zionist influence.
Now, it is one thing to claim that the perceived benefits of supporting stability in Egypt –including the preservation of its cold peace with Israel– do not warrant the coddling of a brutal autocrat. Of course they don't. The U.S. clearly should have pressed Mubarak much more forcefully on human rights and democratic freedoms.
But it is both simplistic and dangerous to assert that Israel and the Israel lobby are the only drivers of America's Egyptian policy. Yet that is a common assertion by IMVCs. Check out this interview with Alison Weir ("If Americans Only Knew"). In the comment threads, the alleged power of the JEWS sometimes extends to controlling Egypt itself, as noted in this insight by someone named Art Allm:
Yes, it seems that Mubarak and his regime are controlled by the Israel Lobby. That is the reason why he is called a "democrat" (speak "good dictator"). The democratic movement in Egypt will be called "anti-democratic", that is so predictable. Who controls the language, also controls the outcome of any discussion.
Mr, Allm, here's a tip from the inner circle of the Elders of Zion: we also control the air traffic control system, and the weather, so you should never fly again.
2—There was and is something inherently wrong with the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. I've been tangling with America's conventional Israel lobby and the mainstream Jewish community for much of my adult life. But I share that community's fond memories of extraordinary moments in 1978, when Egyptian President Anwar Sadat's limousine rumbled through the streets of Jerusalem, as Israeli throngs applauded and wept, grateful that an Arab leader was, for the first time, offering a hand of peace instead of inveterate hostility. As HDS Greenway recalls, "the joy in the streets of Cairo was no less when Israel's Menachem Begin made his reciprocal visit to Egypt. Egyptian cab drivers refused to take fares from visiting Israelis, some of whom had not been there since the days of the British Palestine Mandate.â€
It is manifestly true and tragic that Sadat's deal(s) with Begin did nothing for the Palestinians. It was reprehensible that Israel did not take advantage of a historic opportunity to foster Palestinian self-determination and end the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. But none of that detracts from the fact that the Israeli-Egyptian peace has also saved untold numbers of lives on both sides of the border. In the IMVC universe, those lives do not seem to have any significance. Here, for example, is Alex Kane:
The Mubarak dictatorship is a core pillar of the U.S./Israeli order in the Middle East, an order that completely ignores the wishes and aspirations of people on the ground. The U.S. and Israel are scared of the new order that is to come.
As As'ad Abu Khalil notes at his blog, "the Israeli strategy in the Middle East has been firmly set on the continuity of the Sadat-Mubarak dictatorship.†Israel's peace agreement with Egypt in 1979 removed a military threat to Israel and secured millions of U.S. dollars and military support for the Egyptian dictatorship. The Mubarak regime got carte blanche for its repressive rule.
Everything Kane says is true, but, based on what he omits in this and other posts, he appears to believe that saving lives and stopping war is of little consequence. Yes, Israel made and then sustained a peace deal with a despotic government, because that was the government Israel had to deal with. It had no choice. Imagine what Kane and his ilk would have said about "Zionist hegemony†if Israel had encouraged the overthrow of Mubarak and called for free elections. One gets the impression that Kane and Weiss feel that, as long as Palestinians are suffering, there is something untoward about Israelis wanting to live without a major military power threatening them from the southwest. In the universe I live in, peace, even peace with dictators, is better than war.
Yes, the Israelis are, as Kane notes, "scared of the new order that is to come.†They are scared of what could happen if the sophisticated arms Egypt has been receiving from the U.S. all these years are in the hands of a regime that is overtly hostile to the Jewish state. The Israelis who are scared include post-Zionists, anti-Zionist supporters of the Boycott, Sanctions and Divestment movement, and other activists against the occupation. They include many people who empathize with the Egyptian people's struggle and strongly support democratic values and democratic reform. But they must deal with the universe as it is. There, a deeply flawed arrangement with Egypt has left the Palestinian people in the lurch. It has helped to prop up a dictatorship. But it has probably prevented a major military conflagration that would have slaughtered Arabs and Jews alike. That may be a devil's bargain, but it is better than no bargain at all.
Update: For a perceptive piece on Israelis' reaction, check out the latest from Noam Sheizaf. It is entitled "Israelis are not hostile to the Egyptian revolution, simply anxious."
Topics: Arab-Israeli conflict, Begin, Egypt, Israel, Mubarak, Palestinians, Sadat | 20 Comments »
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The film introduces tenor Mario Lanza, recruited from grand opera. His voice, when he's singing opera, is excellent. He's no great actor but handles his thesping chores adequately.
The film introduces tenor Mario Lanza, recruited from grand opera. His voice, when he's singing opera, is excellent. He's no great actor but handles his thesping chores adequately.Original screenplay has Ethel Barrymore as a wealthy Philly blueblood, who attempts to compensate for her own operatic frustrations by financing a civic company to star her granddaughter, Kathryn Grayson. Jose Iturbi, as the maestro, agrees to audition Lanza after Grayson discovers him. When the temperamental tenor originally booked to co-star with Grayson quits, she convinces Iturbi to give Lanza the big chance. Producer Joe Pasternak had some innocuous stilted lyrics written for a theme from Tchaikovsky's Fifth Symphony. Staging and scoring are both static, which doesn't do either Lanza or Grayson any good.
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M-G-M. Director Norman Taurog; Producer Joe Pasternak; Screenplay Bruce Manning, Tamara Hovey; Camera Robert Surtees; Editor Gene Ruggiero
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Did anybody ever experienced e-brake problem ?
I just replaced my rear rotors and pads on the jeep. E-brake lining were still good. I've had everything adjust so that the e-brake would be tight. But when I pull the e-brake handle, the rear right wheel can still be spinned. The rear left wheel is pretty tight though. I might be ordering both rear cable tomorrow but I wanted to know if any of you guys had any experience on that. And if you would recommend me anything about it.
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The rear brake cable hocks onto a lever in the backing plates on each side. It may be that one of these connections came apart on the wheel that spins. You can check this by pulling the cable away from the backing plates. If it comes out then in wasn't connected and will have to be. This is all that I can think of.
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Hehe sorry I havent seen there was new posts
Right cable was disconnected.
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LONDON (Reuters) - Award-winning children's author Philip Pullman said on Thursday he would stop visiting schools in England because of an "absurd" rule forcing him to register first with a government anti-pedophile database.
Pullman, writer of the "Dark Materials" trilogy, said he was never alone with pupils and a teacher was always present.
"Why should I have to pay 64 pounds to a government agency to give me a certificate saying I am not a pedophile?," Pullman, 62, told BBC radio. "It's actually quite dispiriting and sinister."
Pullman, whose books have been adapted for television and film, including 2007's "The Golden Compass," said it was unfortunate that children would miss out because of his boycott but said he was not to blame.
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I Love Mariah Carey
Personal Stories, Advice, and Support 239 People
"I told you if Jermaine likes it *giggles ... then I like it *
CamilleStorm 18-21, F 0 Sep 12, 2015
My Inspiration... MimiGrowing up from a broken home, with no father around was tough. I endured so much heartaches, was so afraid to get close to anyone. I was born along with my twin brother, at 6 months, weighing 0lbs 14ozs at birth. At the age of 2, we were told that we were deaf. To make a long...
twinb 31-35, F 1 Response 1 May 10, 2011
Mariah Is AmazingI always listen to "I Want To Know What Love Is", "Emotions", and "Prisoner". Amazing songs from an amazing singer. Favorite song is "Emotions" when she hits the E7. Like a Dolphin
Azazel14 18-21, M 1 Response 2 Nov 24, 2012
I absolutely positively love Mariah CareyEspecialy her new album Me I am Mariah i have loved her song "Bring It On Home" and "Triumphant" these sings are on repeat the whole day especaily the last notes of Triumphant but the no rap version from youtube Mariah Carey i play her songs all day nothing but Mariah Carey...
Christromp 18-21, M 1 Aug 18, 2014
Ivrite 18-21, F 0 Mar 24, 2016
Have Been a Fan For AgesI fell totally in love with this woman's voice and talant way back in '91 when she first came out. She's changed drastically, but I think she's still got it. She can't do what she used to do live, but on this latest cd, she showed hints of her old voice here and there...
dmltc2000 26-30, F 1 Response 0 Jun 23, 2008
I hope she'll have another 3 number onesand BEAT THE **** OUT OF THE BEATLES, cause SHE is the real talent❤❤❤
XsorrowX 16-17, M 1 Response 2 Nov 24, 2015
I love her song "love takes time" I always getlost in her voice its so magical
Angel1Hinojosa 16-17, M 3 Responses 7 May 31, 2015
EwShe sucks ***. And yes, I do need to say it.
She is the most amazing singer in my opinion ,her music makes me forget all my troubles in the world, her music makes me high spirited ,she is bae to bad I'm gay lol if I had to have sex with a girl it be her ,just have her put on a strap on lol idk but all ik is her music is amazing
Angel1Hinojosa 16-17, M 1 Response 2 Dec 27, 2014
I wish I could go back to 1988and kill Mariah take her voice and songs! so that I was Mariah
XsorrowX 16-17, M 2 Responses 0 Nov 15, 2015
Gaygod001 doesn't like Mariah Careybut we can still be friends lol but you cool tho honey
Angel1Hinojosa 16-17, M 1 Response 0 Jan 11, 2015
She My InspirationIve been listening to her music since I was five years old. Growing up was really hard for me and her music was one of the things I found in my life to help me get through my pain.
bennette 18-21, M 1 Response 1 Feb 28, 2010
She Doesn't KnowI am from Myanmar where she is rarely heard. I buy her albums and listen to her songs everyday-almost every hours. I hope she will do excellent in her upcoming album like she did in her debut album. Oh how I love Mariah...My friends even call me Mariah because the only thing I...
stephengatelyronaldo 22-25 1 Response 1 May 31, 2009
I Love Mariah Carey.Mariah is my saving grace. I don't look at her a "'Famous' singer"... i look at her as a woman who has been there and writes about it. Growing up for me, was hell. I hated myself for being bullied with one friend who got bullied too. I constantly got jabbed with pencils, made fun...
mcfl90 13-15, M 3 Responses 4 Oct 25, 2012
I've been obsessed with Mariah Carey lately o.o We belong together is my fav 💕
Mattluv15 16-17, M 0 Aug 8, 2015
I love Mariah Carey's music..my favourite album is Butterfly <3
EmancipationOfMimi 22-25, F 1 Response 2 Jul 13, 2014
Always Be My Baby ..you'll always be a part of me im part of you indefinitely boy don't u know u can't escape me oh darling you'll always be my baby oh my,how i loveeeeee mariah's song.and i love mariah carey too.. all of her songs inspired me..i just love everything about mariah
valecia 18-21 1 Response 1 May 28, 2012
Who doesn't? She's tha queen of music.tho I can sing like her.
mcx0125 18-21, M 0 Jun 20, 2015
charmbracelet was her best album,she was very pretty during charmbracelet and her voice was pretty
theschool2 31-35, M 4 Responses 2 Nov 12, 2015
When I'm feeling down upset I listen to "MakeIt Happen" by Mariah Carey...you should listen to it its a very good song 🎶😆
Angel1Hinojosa 16-17, M 1 Response 4 Feb 19, 2015
Love My Dahhling Diva Mariah!i absolutely loveeee mariah.. ive seen her 4 times alredy..and she is so awesome..her personality and her performances.. she has the most beautiful voice ever..id have to say the album i especially liked after Rainbow and Carmbraclet has to be E=MC2..im soo excited for her...
lisset 18-21, F 1 Mar 26, 2010
I finally did the "yours"and joyride whistle today after trying "emotions" that destroyed my voice I put myself on vocal rest for two whole months and drank lots of tea to get my whistle back and I got it back!!
Charmbracelet327 18-21, M 1 Jan 4, 2016
I Luv Mc 4ever N Everwhen i heard mariah song....i luv mariah......when i go everywhere,,, i saw mariah....any things i do....i remember mariah...whatever..wherever....mariah is very special an angel to me....u r princess in my heart mariah....i luv n miss mariah so much....
adiedad 31-35, M 0 Sep 3, 2012
I'm so Excited I get to finally goand see Mariah Carey in concert in May! I'm so Excited!
Brightandbeautiful 26-30, F 2 Responses 5 Mar 7, 2015
"If you feel like hope is gone look inside youand be strong...lord knows dreams are hard to fallow but don't let them tear them away...
Angel1Hinojosa 16-17, M 4 Jan 22, 2015
my fav song from her (and also accompanied byboyz II men) one sweet day. its a emotional song.
BabyAngel9618 18-21, F 2 Responses 4 Jun 24, 2015
"Hey darling....i know you think my love isslipping away but baby its all in your mind"-All i n your mind
Angel1Hinojosa 16-17, M 1 Response 6 Sep 5, 2015
http://youtu.be/oe1wtkkt9-E love this songbecause it makes me feel beautiful and I bet it can make others by listening to it
I can't stop listening to"Angels Cry" ..its all I can listen to..my boyfriend doesn't message me that much and we are just so distant and I message alot but he disappears all the time on me..idk what to do
Angel1Hinojosa 16-17, M 1 Response 5 Mar 1, 2015
Love Love LoveSince I was kid I have always been a big fan of Mariah Carey... =) She has a beautiful voice and her songs have deep meaingful lyrics too...
SkinandBone 18-21, F 1 Jul 18, 2009
She's Like a Drug.I was 22 when I first saw and heard Mariah. I love good music so her sound was great but when I saw her, I felt a connection. We looked similar and that was not something I said often. I am also multiracial like Mariah. Although, our family set up is...
mixedchick2 36-40 1 Response 1 Sep 26, 2008
I Love HER!!!The first song I ever listened from her is "Obsessed" then I started listening songs from her in the 90's lik "you'll always be my baby" and the her other songs I love her n forever will she's my inspiration and I love her I'm just 14 but I love her in the 90's and now I will...
Jessy405 18-21, M 2 May 23, 2013
"Heartbreaker you got the best of mebut I just on coming back excessively..oh why did you have to run your game on me ..I should have know right from the start you would go and break my heart."-Mariah Carey
Angel1Hinojosa 16-17, M 1 Response 2 Jul 28, 2015
I want to meet Mariah Carey.She is an idol to me like Tupac. I grew up on her. Would love to do a feature with her one day! I'll keep dreaming lol
RissaP 22-25, F 2 Responses 4 Feb 28, 2015
I absolutely love her musicand she is so amazing her music helps me alot 😊
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On July 29, 1974, 11 women became the first to be ordained to be priests in the Episcopal church. The church at first declared those ordinations -- the 11 women in Philadelphia and four the next year in Washington, D.C. -- to be both "irregular" and "invalid," but eventually labeled them valid though irregular. In 1976, the church's national governing body, pressured by wide acceptance of those irregular ordinations, changed the rules and allowed for the ordination of women as priests, not just as deacons. It also "regularized" the Philadelphia and Washington ordinations.
These are the 11 women who were ordained on that day 40 years ago.
Merrill Bittner: A native of California, she earned a college degree in biology and then attended seminary in Rochester, N.Y. After her ordination, she traveled the country in a van for years and later became a career counselor in Maine.
Alla Renée Bozarth: After her ordination, she opened an ecumenical feminist retreat center in Minneapolis. Later she opened such a center in Oregon. She also became an award-winning poet.
Alison Cheek: A native of Australia, she became a teacher at the Episcopal Divinity School in Cambridge, Mass. Later, she helped found a spiritual center in Maine. She also served churches in Philadelphia and Maine. She's retired to North Carolina, living not far from another of the Philadelphia 11, Carter Heyward.
Emily Hewitt: After her ordination, she went to Harvard Law School and eventually became chief judge of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, from which she retired last October.
Carter Heyward: She taught at the Episcopal Divinity School from 1975 until 2006 and has written 11 books and contributed to or edited several more, including one about another of the Philadelphia 11, The Spirit of the Lord Is Upon Me: The Writings of Suzanne Hiatt.
Suzanne Hiatt: Considered by others in the ordination group to be the prime force behind the 1974 ordinations, she also taught at the Episcopal Divinity School. She grew up in Minneapolis and died of cancer in 2002 at age 65.
Marie Moorefield Fleischer: The year after her ordination, she left the Episcopal church to become a United Methodist. Later she returned to the Episcopal church, which formally recognized her ordination in 1985. She served in the North Carolina diocese and now is retired.
Jeannette Piccard: She was 79 years old at the time of her ordination. She later served as an unpaid pastoral assistant at a church in St. Paul, Minn. She died in 1981 of cancer.
Betty Bone Schiess: After her ordination, she became a chaplain at Syracuse University and later Cornell University, as well as rector of a church in New York state, where she still resides, now 91.
Katrina Swanson: Her father, Bishop Edward Welles of Kansas City, Mo., was one of the bishops who led the 1974 renegade ordinations. She and her husband, also an Episcopal priest, both worked at churches in New Jersey. She died of cancer in 2005.
Nancy Hatch Wittig: She grew up in a Navy family. After her ordination, she served for two decades as rector of the Church of St. Andrew's in-the-Field in Philadelphia. She now is an assistant priest at a church in Lakewood, Ohio.
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Finally made it past the 2000km mark and just finished my break-in service.
Driving out from the dealership was an interesting experience..... in a good way. The service advisor told me to take it easy for a bit as things need to circulate properly and with the 2000km service, the clearing of the computer also means the car switches off break-n mode and becomes more direct and linear in power production and settings.
I must admit I was skeptical but after running the car for about 10km I decided to be a bit more aggressive with the throttle. Yup, more responsive and definitely seemed to rev more freely. The other things I noticed were the gear changes, even on the same setting seemed a bit sharper and I could hear air being sucked into the engine and this is something I never heard before. Its been about 5 days and still haven't had a chance to give her a full run which I intend to do this weekend and will see how much of the difference I can feel on the open road.
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Monet is one of my favourite artists.
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- The artist painted this picture using tiny brushstrokes.
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Michael "Attack" Pachter, renowned video game analyst, is back with another rousing round of fantastical make believe regarding everyone's favourite doomed company, the eternally failing Nintendo.
Pachter thinks "Nintendo is in disarray." In fact, he says "I think they've completely blown the Wii U by not telling people what the price is going to be." Yep, nothing like not telling people the price a year before launch to doom your console. Of course, it makes sense that a doomed company would released doomed products, especially one as doomed as Nintendo.
It gets worse. That price Nintendo refuses to announce is inevitably going to be $249 anyway, says Pachter, and the 360 with Kinect will be less than that by launch time. Again, checks out. It makes sense that the price of previous gen consoles would doom future consoles. That's why no one has bought a Wii, 360, or PS3, the PS2 is still way cheaper.
One more prediction from the Pachmaster General: he thinks Wii U will come without a hard drive, while the PS4 and 720 will come with 4GB ones. Why he thinks new machines will come with dramatically less storage than those already available remains a mystery.
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Re: OOP in Mathematica
> With all respect, I think you might have said "in my opinion."
I have no other opinion than mine.
> OOP is
> revolutionizing software development, by (among other things) separating
> implementation from interface, thus allowing modules to interact more easily
> and with fewer problems.
That's OOP -- wow! I thought it is good programming style, working
in every higher programming language.
> Mathematica's "Module[]" facility is a simple
> embodiment of this idea,
What is with my beloved Block[] - is it also OOP ?
Next you will say that patterns are also OOP, and the
good old pure functions ? Is this object oriented ?
Fine ! Now I know that LISP and Prolog are native
object oriented languages !
> by enclosing code blocks and isolating them from
> their applications, making it possible to change the methods without
> changing the outer appearance and uses.
You change *functions* not methods! and this is functional programming.
Since Mathematica does not know what a data type is, the data
types can't have methods.
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Miranda IM is a multi protocol instant messenger client for Windows. It is designed to be resource efficient and easy to use. It uses very little memory, requires no installation and can easily be carried around on a single floppy disc. The goal of this project is not to duplicate the functionality of AOL's ICQ Client, but to design a client that has the basic features that is designed for mouse-less operation with a small memory requirement.
Reviewing 0.10.54.0 (Sep 10, 2016)
Not good
Reviewing 0.10.47.0 (Mar 8, 2016)
and here's this releases' notes:
– Update SQLite library
so they've basically done nothing.
Reviewing 0.10.31 (Apr 27, 2015)
This is the release notes for this release:
– Add SQLite database driver beta to contrib package (Use at your own risk!)
and that comes from the Miranda page. Funny... they refuse to incorporate Bonjour, which a WIDE base uses, especially in Mac/PC environments... but they will include a driver beta and warn you that it's at your own risk.
It's official. Miranda devs are the dumbest mofos in captivity.
Reviewing 0.10.24 (Sep 9, 2014)
no bonjour support.
Pidgin beats this
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Decision-makers get a high-visibility assist with Kinaxis response management solutions
Front-line managers that must make tradeoffs and compromises to make up for unexpected events now are able to analyze alternative response actions before making a decision using a new category of solutions called Response Management.
According to Stephen Hochman, a director with Boston-based AMR Research , these solutions can lower costs and time-to-resolution of high-visibility judgment calls.
"In high-velocity, supply-constrained businesses where decisions are high in risk and complexity, many companies reach the conclusion that they require systems for collective risk tradeoff and response as the new basis of competition," says Hochman. "Whether the risk takes the form of a forecast spike, a component approaching obsolescence, a sales order shortfall, or gaining more strategic sales and operations planning or network commitments, discrete manufacturers place a premium on the ability to see, study, and simulate alternate resolutions that show financial and operational impact before pulling the trigger on a major tradeoff."
Graeme Walker, ERP development manager at Adeptron Technologies , a Toronto-based contract manufacturer, says reaction time is a key competitive differentiator, so the ability to run "what-if?" simulations ensures the right part is available at the right price, and can be delivered to customers when needed to build product on schedule.
"Use of'what-if?' scenario planning allows quickly looking at the potential consequences of a proposed action—such as accepting a customer's order change—so we can determine not only if we could make on-time delivery, but also how accepting that order change will impact other customers' orders," Walker says. "It gives us the ability to determine what changes we should make to alter our course of action."
Kinaxis is making a strong name for itself with so-called response management solutions that afford the visibility for a coordinated response to change.
"The drive toward perfectly optimized forecasts and supply plans is no longer enough to support the evolving requirements of complex global supply chains," says Randy Littleson, a Kinaxis VP. "Instead, quickly responding to change is the new operating paradigm for demand-driven leaders. RapidResponse 9 connects myriad internal and external systems to enable quickly identifying—and then resolving—business tradeoffs with a collaborative response that balances opportunity and risk."
Adeptron's Walker says two capabilities of Kinaxis' new solution stand out. The first is advanced alerting, whereby users can recognize business exceptions and opportunities in real time using self-created alerts. The second is TeamForm functionality, which automates the process of getting feedback from people who would be impacted by a proposed action.
"By automating'what-if?' scenario evaluation and incorporating feedback about the ramifications of a proposed action, [a company could] eliminate both paper and time from the process, and take the best course of action even faster," Walker says. "The potential savings could be quite substantial."
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Because Wal-mart says you need to be 21 to buy pistol ammo. But there are .40 carbines out there.
This is a discussion on Why Does Wal-Mart always ask me if .40S&W is handgun ammo? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Why does the cashier @ WalMart always ask me if this is handgun ammo whenever I buy .40S&W FMJs? I always say yes and nothing ...
Why does the cashier @ WalMart always ask me if this is handgun ammo whenever I buy .40S&W FMJs?
I always say yes and nothing more is said or done. I am buying it for my Glock but I wonder what would happen if I said, no?
I'm sure it's some weird law or something like that.
Does anyone know why they do this?
Because Wal-mart says you need to be 21 to buy pistol ammo. But there are .40 carbines out there.
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Because the question pops up on their computer screen when they scan the ammo.
Similar situation: buying beer or tobacco products...cashier rings it up....computer/register asks "Is the person over 21/18?". They should be asking you for your permit shortly after you answer yes to "Is this for a handgun". Since you could be buying the ammo for a long gun so technically no permit would be required.
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my walmart always just decides weather or not i am buying it for a rifle or pistol for me, no asking
"The value you put on the lost will be determined by the sacrifice you are willing to make to seek them until they are found."
permits aren't required to buy handgun ammo...................
"The value you put on the lost will be determined by the sacrifice you are willing to make to seek them until they are found."
I always tell them "No, it's for a carbine."
If you're lucky, they won't ask what a carbine is. I remember on one occasion, I was buying ammo at Wal-Mart, with some friends and they wouldn't let me purchase a box that a friend had brought to the register, even though we were all buying ammo and all over 21, with identification. The lady was confused about some rule and called it an attempted 'straw purchase'.
I don't remember if she had to put it back on the shelf and let me carry it to the register, or what. My point is that the folks really don't understand what they are doing, they are just going through the motions.
Remember , if you are in Walmart, you are lucky if they speak English. I've literally had trouble finding something... because no one could speak English and could understood a word of what I was saying. I'm serious.
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A few weeks back, I tried to purchase some ammo at Walmart. They didn't card me. They actually refused to sell to me because I had my 1911 on my hip (yes, I was open-carrying). I've bought ammo dozens of times while open carrying - had interesting conversations about guns, etc. with the clerks, too.
The encounter ended with them allowing me to purchase the ammo, but not taking possession of it until I was outside the store. Their loss prevention guy walked the ammo out of the store for me.
It was entirely silly. The loss prevention guy agreed it was silly, even. As we laughed, I explained that I couldn't use the ammo in the store anyhow - my mags were already loaded to capacity.
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Wal-Mart is not, generally speaking, where you will find the most gun savvy employees. I once asked the "sporting goods" clerk if they sold AR-15 magazines, and was told to look in the book department...
Was also refused an attempt to purchase .22LR ammo, even though I stated (truthfully) that it was to be used in a rifle. The cashier insisted that it was pistol ammo "because it was so small." I tried to point out that the name of the round itself is .22 Long RIFLE, but she was having none of it. This was 20 years ago, and I can't imagine that the body of firearms knowledge among the staff has risen dramatically since then....
A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.


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