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What is the figurative meaning of the roads diverging in Robert Frost"s poem
"The Road not Taken"?
Basically, I think it's referring to the choices we make in life. Sometimes we're faced with two distinct directions to choose from, and we can choose only one. But now speculate: What would have happened if you had made a different choice at some point?
Do you think Frost is speculating his choice in the 4th stanza? Does he sigh because he was happy with his decision to take the road less traveled?
That's for each of us to interpret for ourselves. One thing about Frost's work (as with all good poetry) is that each reader's interpretation is quite individual.
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Investigations of an Artful
Mind: A Brisk Walk through the Museum
[All drawings by Daniel Zimmerman]
We were in the art museum again, and I set out at a brisk pace. If I could, I'd tell you a more complete story, how my visits had only gradually become like this. But such a history would very likely become tiresome. Suffice it to say, the days are gone when I tried to stop at every painting.
I do remember trying to look at each one when I was a student, even as a young man, but no more. It takes too great a toll. I don't have the endurance for it. Let me try to explain.
The way I approach going to an art museum, is like preparing to walk the streets of a large city. It's vitally important to know your limitations; otherwise you'll be drained very quickly, and why die before your time?
There are people, however, and there are paintings that pour life into you, and allow you to pour yours into them. They permit exchange.
I have strong feelings about this. Whether I'm looking at paintings or engaged in the creative process itself, I desire to be surprised, having grown too familiar with both what I see in galleries and my own studio. I'm only 65. I know I've got a lot to learn yet, but I'm inclined to think that an artist is not like other vocations. Who you are and what you do emerge slowly through the years. Becoming a painter, for example, might even take a lifetime.
To be sure, an amazing level of acquired technique can be reached when one is very young, but the art I'm talking about is not simply a demonstration of accumulated skill. It's a hard-earned awareness that the best paintings never come about by skill alone. Of greater importance is remaining vigilant, whether you're groping about with your brush, or, in this case, blowing by a wall of pictures.
If you can remind yourself that you don't really know what you're looking for, you're more likely to notice when something beyond the scope of either knowledge or skill suddenly appears.
So I walked briskly, on the lookout.
As I continued, the thought came again how paintings were like people. They ran the whole gamut: intelligent, adept, tedious, arrogant...too many characters to list. Actually, I was fond of each one. But rarely was my affection returned and recently the situation had gotten much worse.
As I said before, my method had changed. I could not stop at every painting. I had to keep moving. An odd thought crossed my mind. "There's got to be a painter in here who hasn't seized up!"
(Seeing another museum guard, I slowed down a bit.)
Let's see. Where was I? Oh, yes. When a painter tightens up it's like a door slowly closing. Before we know it, we forget what it's like to be able to go back and forth. We get tighter and tighter, and the paintings we paint suffer from our nearsightedness.
They didn't notice when I breezed by. They were busy expressing themselves, being seen. I knew that business well. Painting can become a one-way conversation, especially when you think you're getting better at it. And your pictures can get to be like people who just talk at you. They don't seem to see anybody else in the room, even when somebody else tries to get a word in edgewise.
In my experience, most paintings are like this. They get fuller and fuller of themselves. Please hear me right—I love people, but my capacity is limited. I'm not God. So these days I walk briskly, looking for paintings that will notice when I enter the room.
I have in the last several years developed more of a sense what I'm looking for, and, on this particular day, I had a feeling that I was getting warmer.
I whisked by several large paintings. They weren't even aware that I was walking by. Quickly now, keep moving. But wait. What is that… what's going on?!
I stopped short, even though the continuing inward momentum of my walk caused me to reel for a few moments…but I did not actually notice it much. This corner of the museum was… different.
Even in my approach I had begun to feel a faint suggestion of wind… and what I can only describe as an undercurrent of otherworldly electricity.
There was no one else in the room. I was struck by the human size of the canvas. It was a portrait, and it hovered before me, like another person. While I had been swiftly scanning the galleries this painting had been patiently waiting. In fact, the mystery could not unfold until we were both present.
"So this is what skills are for," I thought. I leaned in very close. The brushstrokes were thick enough to cast nearly imperceptible shadows and yet, the picture was transparent somehow, thin enough to see through.
Again, I was face to face with it. Here was a life as obscure and puzzling as mine. We both stood there gazing across the century at each other.
A few gallery visitors looked over my shoulder. Just as quickly they turned back toward a large painting to the left. I heaved a great sigh of relief, for the portrait and I had just begun to have a conversation. Wait! Could that be a whisper? I must be hearing things. But that wasn't all…
I had been asked a question. In hushed wonder I began to respond.

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Arcane Legends builds on Spacetime's successes
Arcane Legends builds on Spacetime's successes
Updated on: Jul 9, 2012 at 15:19
By TJSonntag
Publisher page: Spacetime Studios
Arcane Legends, the upcoming fourth mobile MMO from Spacetime Studios, will use bits and pieces of each of the three other titles to get a focused, core gameplay that really works, according to design director Eli Holding.
You can expect the typical three character classes — Warrior, Rogue and Sorcerer — and a fantasy themed setting for the game. You can also expect the usual questing and PvE content that nearly all MMOs incorporate. However, the combat system introduced in Dark Legends makes an appearance here, as does the use of environmental elements to help fight off the bad guys.
Arcane Legends will also use the Guild Halls and PvP systems seen in their previous games, expanding upon systems that have already proven to be of use to gamers.
Expect to see Arcane Legends released for the iOS and Android operating systems, as well as the Google Chrome Web Store, by the end of August. There is no word yet on whether Arcane Legends will be free to play like Dark Legends, or if it will require a client purchase and subscription.
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What the OT sacrifices were at the tabernacle/temple, the gift of the Philippians was to Paul. What did Paul intend to communicate with these descriptions?
In the previous message we discovered that Paul described their gifts to him in Philippians 4:18 as being effective and appealing (an odor of a sweet smell) and expressive of a heart dedicated to God (a sacrifice acceptable). This message looks at the third description (a sacrifice...well pleasing to God) and arrives at what Paul was communicating by this expression. Also, time is devoted to considering four noteworthy truths about their sacrficial giving that made it so well-pleasing to God.
If our giving to God's ministers, ministries, or missionaries are to have the same kind of impact the Philippians' gift had on Paul, Giving That Touches Hearts, then we must pattern our giving after theirs and embrace the same mindset they cultivated.
The Apostle Paul wanted the Philippians to know that the gospel of Christ not only produces a real peace that is evident in a spirit of contentment (4:10-14), but also by a spirit of giving (4:15-20). In spite of their deep poverty and enduring the difficult persecution (2 Corinthians 8:1-5), the Philippian church set a model of giving that received the commendation of God. He considered their giving to be a delightful aroma, an attractive fragrance, a gift that God himself would accept and find very pleasing. Their spirit of giving spotlighted God and was patterned after Him.
Today's sermon text reveals three characteristics about the Philippians' mindset in giving that qualified it for God's stamp of approval. If our own financial giving to God's ministry and missionaries are to obtain the same response from God theirs did, then it must evidence the same characteristics.
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Get the inside story on Wellington's history, culture and landscape from a local guide who goes beyond what's in the guidebooks. Our two hour guided walking tours are great value at only $NZ20 per person. Advance booking available but not required.
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The Essential Wellington Walk departs from the i-SITE Visitor Centre Civic Square at 10am daily.
Get to know Wellington's waterfront, downtown, courts and parliamentary areas in an easy walk of just over 2 hours duration. Your guide will introduce you to the history, sights and culture of our vibrant city.
This walk finishes at Old St Pauls Cathedral in Mulgrave St allowing you time to continue exploring the city.
The Summer Evening Walk departs at 5.30pm on Monday, Wednesday and Friday from December to February, from outside the i-SITE Civic Square door.
This shorter walk of just over 1 1/2 hours duration covers some of the same sights as the morning walk before finishing at the Embassy Theatre Courtenay Place.
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But Kim Wallace, one of our editors here at RPGFan, was interested in seeing how this game handled the transition to consoles. Thus, she provides us with reviews for the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of the game. Note: they're basically the same game.
Limited editions of the game, for all platforms, came with the "Sacred 2: Fallen Angel Audio CD," a bonus soundtrack for the game. Kim also took the time to review this album.
Unfortunately for Kim, it seems that her time was not well spent, as her impressions of the game and soundtrack are mixed. And by "mixed," I mean, "there's a lot of bad polluting the good."
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Grant Union HS Student Diagnosed with Tuberculosis
Sacramento County health officials say a local high school student has been diagnosed with tuberculosis.
That student from Grant Union High is currently undergoing care and letters are going out to parents of students who may have been exposed.
Dr. Olivia Kasirye is the county's public health officer.
"TB is usually passed on from one person to another through the air, either when someone is coughing, laughing, singing or sneezing," she said.
It's rare, we see about 70 cases a year locally.
The bacteria can lie dormant before becoming active -- like in this case -- so there's no telling where the student caught it.
Kasirye says they'll test classmates, but aren't anticipating anyone else has contracted the disease.
If parents have any concerns or questions, they may call Grant Union High School at 916-566-3450, ext. 65063.
For questions concerning Tuberculosis, please call 916-875-5881.


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Rate of Non-Elderly Mental Health Disability in the U.S. Rises
Posted: 09/30/2011
Non-elderly Americans are reporting more mental health disabilities now than they did in 1997—especially those who already suffer from other chronic conditions. This finding comes from a new study published online last week in the American Journal of Public Health.
The study's key researcher was Ramin Mojtabai, M.D., Ph.D., M.P.H., from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, who looked at 312,364 patients between the ages of 18 and 64 years from the U.S. Read more »
Man Killed And Two Others Injured By Semi-truck
Posted: 09/28/2011
September 28, 2011
A man was killed last Wednesday night outside Indianapolis, Indiana, when he stopped to help another motorist change a tire and was hit by a semi-truck. According to Channel 10 News, the accident happened in the southbound lanes of I-465, just before midnight.
Authorities say two motorists in a silver Pontiac had stopped on the shoulder of the road to change a tire. Moments later, a pickup truck pulled up behind them. Read more »
Louisiana Woman Pleads Guilty to Social Security Fraud
Posted: 09/28/2011
Today an Avondale, Louisiana, woman plead guilty to stealing more than $70,000 in disability payments from the Social Security Administration.
The 48-year-old woman admitted to U.S. District Judge Stanwood Duval Jr., that she was employed at an Avondale company from 2003 to 2009 but continued to collect the Social Security Disability payments she'd begun receiving in 1993.
The woman used the wrong Social Security number to claim the benefits over six years. Read more »
Social Security Disability Applications Up 40 Percent in Florida
Posted: 09/26/2011
More Floridians than ever are now claiming Social Security Disability benefits; in fact, the figure is up 40 percent since 2007, meaning that 500,000 people received disability benefits in the Sunshine State last year.
The Sun Sentinel reports that waiting rooms in South Florida Social Security offices are full of people applying for benefits.
Many of these new applications, the newspaper reports, are "coming from people with mental or physical conditions who once were able to work and now can't, or who lost their job and are unable to find a new one."
"It's very much in tune with the timing of our recession," said an attorney to The Sun Sentinel. Read more »
Mitt Romney: 'Social Security Is Our Country's Safety Net'
Posted: 09/23/2011
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, who is seeking the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, has authored an op-ed for Fox News called "The Future of Social Security."
Published yesterday, the article poses the question of what to do about Social Security.
"Social Security is our country's fundamental safety net for Americans facing old age and disability," says Romney. "The program was hotly contested at the time it was passed, but has long come to be accepted by both Democrats and Republicans alike as a vitally important form of financial protection for millions of Americans."
Romney acknowledges flaws in the Social Security program and calls for reform that will strengthen the program. Read more »
More and More Employers Shrug Off Disability Insurance Costs
Posted: 09/21/2011
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst; isn't that how the saying goes? Too few Americans are "preparing for the worst" when it comes to disability insurance, points out a new Washington Post article.
That's because few people anticipate relying on disability insurance; thus it's often taken for granted when employers foot the bill for it. Likewise, disability insurance is often barely missed when employers withdraw it from company benefits packages. Read more »
Loophole In Law Puts Intoxicated Drivers Back On The Road
Posted: 09/21/2011
September 21, 2011 People tend to think that once an impaired driver is caught, the law keeps them off the road for good. In Indiana though, a loophole in state law is allowing these impaired drivers back on the road; putting themselves and others in danger. Eyewitness News 13 told the story of a Fulton County man whose license was suspended when he crashed his moped into a utility pole. He wore no helmet and was highly intoxicated from prescription drugs when he crashed. Read more »
When Should You Start Collecting Social Security?
Posted: 09/19/2011
People generally have lots of questions about Social Security, but one of the most pressing regards when to start collecting it.
In a new article, the San Francisco Chronicle clearly lays out your three options for when you can begin to collect Social Security—which includes taking benefits early (as early as age 62), waiting until the normal retirement age (age 67, if you were born in or after 1960), or waiting until after the normal retirement age. Read more »
New Polls Show How Rick Perry's Social Security Stance Sits with Voters
Posted: 09/16/2011
Texas Governor Rick Perry called the Social Security program a "Ponzi scheme" that was doomed for failure in his 2010 book Fed Up! It's a denouncement that many politicos have said would cost the governor in his bid for the 2012 GOP nomination, but new polls may indicate otherwise.
The results of a Gallup poll taken earlier in the week were released Friday, September 16, and reveal that Perry's comments on Social Security are "a non-issue for most Republicans. Read more »
Sugarland Named As Defendant Following Indiana Stage Collapse
Posted: 09/14/2011
September 14, 2011
For the first time since the tragic stage collapse at the Indiana State Fairgrounds, the band that was set to play that night, Sugarland, has been named as a defendant on notices to several entities being accused of responsibility for the accident. According to Channel 13 News, the August 13 stage collapse caused by gusts of high wind, killed seven people and injured 40 others.
Two families who suffered losses at the concert filed notices earlier this week against at least 15 companies, organizations, and individuals, including Sugarland, claiming their actions were the cause for the accident and deaths. Read more »


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A critique on Veizer's Celestial Climate Driver
Veizer suggests the recent global warming might be driven by changes in solar activity (his Fig. 14a – dashed line is temperature, solid line with diamonds is solar cycle length). But the figure only shows the temperature record from 1935-1990, even though of course more recent data are available. Veizer must be aware that in view of these more recent data, the scientist who originally proposed this correlation in 1991, Knud Lassen, has concluded in 2000 that solar cycle variations cannot explain the ongoing warming trend [1].
In the figure below, we have superimposed the standard CRU data set (blue curve) of global mean temperature on Veizers graph.
We see that the graph selectively shows a part of the time series dominated by the well-known temporary "dip" in the global warming trend, reaching a minimum around 1970. The correlation of temperature and solar cycle length applies mainly to this "dip" in the curves. Thus, solar cycle variations may or may not explain this "dip" (one similar-looking dip in two curves is not a significant correlation and could easily be coincidence; there is a better-founded explanation for this "dip" resulting from cooling by aerosol emissions – see the figure from Hansen et al. coming up below).
But there is no indication that solar cycle variations could explain the ongoing warming trend. There is simply no significant trend in this (or any other) solar indicator since 1940. Veizer fails to discuss the key issue (namely, whether the data support the idea that the warming trend, rather than just the temporary dip, could be explained by solar cycle variations). The (often faulty or misleading) use of these solar cycle data by "climate sceptics" has quite a pre-history, see e.g. Damon and Laut (2004). Note that the relative vertical scale of the curves is arbitrary. The article by Damon and Laut (2004) also shows that when solar cycle length is scaled up as much as it is in the above figure in order to match the 1940-1990 temperature record, that this implies a great mismatch for the earlier periods in time. Veizer should be aware of this problem of his proposed match, but he fails to mention it.
As an aside, one of the data points in the above graph is incorrect; the National Geophysical Data Center gives a solar cycle length of 11.8 years for 1963, where Veizer plots 11.0 years.
[1] P. Thejll and K. Lassen, 2000: Solar forcing of the Northern hemisphere land airtemperature: New data. Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-terrestrial Physics, Vol. 62 (13),1207-1213.
Greenland temperature variations
Veizer's paper argues that the local preindustrial climate fluctuations over the past millennium in Greenland were not driven by CO2. As a proof, Veizer shows a temperature reconstruction for Greenland together with the CO2 concentration in his Fig. 12. Now, the preindustrial CO2 concentration over this period was constant, and therefore nobody has ever proposed that CO2 could have caused any climate variations during this time. It obviously can't. Showing this in a plot is thus a completely moot point that is clearly not aimed at any fellow scientist; it is something meant to impress uninformed lay-people. Indeed, the graph is not from a scientific publication, but was reproduced from a popular climate-sceptics book that has been distributed in Germany by the coal-industry lobby.
Using a time period when CO2 did not change at all, to support a general conclusion that "CO2 is not the driver of climate change" and hence is not responsible for the current warming, is hardly logical. It merely highlights the fallacy of looking for one single "driver" that explains climate variations on all time scales. It is well-established in climatology that different causes and mechanisms have caused climate changes in the past (orbital variations, plate tectonics, solar variability, volcanic eruptions, etc.), so that a cause-effect relationship has to be determined for each individual case, rather than looking for one overall "driver".
(As an inconsequential but telling aside, Veizer wrongly attributes the CO2 curve in Fig. 12 to the Greenland ice core GISP2. It is well-known amongst paleoclimatologists that there are no successful CO2 measurements from Greenland, the record shown is obviously from Antarctica. It is strange how this slipped by the journal's review.)
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Established in 1983, our annual Mammoth Car Boot Sale has for many years been one of the largest of its kind in Southern England.
The event is held on August Bank Holiday Monday (August 28, 2016) by kind permission of our Honorary Member the Earl of Pembroke in the beautiful grounds of the Wilton House Estate. The main entrance is via the Netherhampton Road Gate and the main exit is via the Sawmills Gate in South Street (but see FAQ below).
Access for Sellers is possible from 6am-9am and pitches will be available from £10 (see FAQ below).
Admission for Buyers costs £5 per person for Early Birds who enter before 9am and £2 per person thereafter.
See below for answers to frequently asked questions.
1. Gates open for Sellers? From 6am-9am - there is no need to arrive very early though we recommend arrival by 8.30am to avoid traffic.
2. Pre-Booking? Not normally required for Ordinary/Medium pitches just turn up and pay on the day. However for any larger requirement and/or Commercial stall it is recommended you make contact in advance via the facility below to check any requirements.
3. Sellers' Pitch Prices?
4. The right is reserved to refuse any pitch.
5. Food/drink sales? Because there are pre-booked concessions for these any other stalls for on-site consumption are not allowed.
6. Standard pitch size? Approx car width plus couple of feet gap each side. Vehicles MUST park with boot end facing the gangway unless Marshalls otherwise agree, then pitch fee may be amended to reflect sales frontage.
7. Restricted goods? There are various legal restrictions on the goods that can be sold at car boot sales (eg electrical goods) and Trading Standards Officers are likely to visit the Sale with a view to possible enforcement particularly in relation to "traders". Click here for further info.
8. Sellers' rubbish? There will be skips for waste disposal but please particularly note FOOD WASTE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE and any especially bulky items should be left beside the skips to enable them to be broken up/compressed as necessary before skip collection. Also any electrical equipment (eg televisions) must be left beside the skips and not put in them. So far as possible please compress other items (eg cardboard boxes) to maximise use of the skip capacity.
9. Unwanted Goods? In addition to the waste facility there will be a "recycling" lorry for disposal of unsold items you do not want to take away with you but may be usable elsewhere . Therefore please help to reduce the volume of waste requiring disposal by putting any such items in that facility.
10. Buyers' entry? The sale officially opens at 9am from which time the normal entry charge of £2 for adults applies. Entry between 8am and 9am is permitted but only on payment of the higher charge of £5 per person.
11. Buyers' Departure? The sale ends at 1pm and stalls are expected to close then with a view to being away from the site by 2pm. In any event all vehicles MUST vacate by 3pm failing which a penalty charge of £20 will be levied for late exit.
12. Buyers' Exit Route? As long as there is significant incoming traffic via the Netherhampton Road entrance all departing vehicles will be directed westwards through the Park to exit into South Street, Wilton. Once incoming traffic is judged to have sufficiently reduced then exit onto Netherhampton Road will be allowed but Marshalls instructions must be followed as to the direction of exit.
13. Enquiries? Please note that we are very fortunate to have use of the Park by kind permission of the Wilton Estate but otherwise it is not involved in the event. Therefore ANY enquiries should be directed to this site NOT the Estate Office.
14. Dogs? If unavoidable stallholders may have them in/by their vehicles (on lead) BUT otherwise it is the wish of the Estate that they are not brought to the event as it is not appropriate for them to be walked within the fairly confined space of the Sales area and it is undesirable to risk leaving them in vehicles particularly if it is hot.
15. Where? For satnav enter SP2 8PZ which will bring you to the corner on which is the gateway into the Park. Otherwise from the North,West and East follow road signs for Salisbury Race Course. From the South (via Coombe Bissett ) also follow Racecourse signs BUT carry on north past the Race Course and the entrance gate is at the bottom of the hill.
16. Entry/Exit? Due to constraints on exit traffic the organisers reserve the right to restrict, or entirely stop, further entry to the site after midday. (Hence if collection by vehicle, eg taxi, is anticipated that should be planned for before that time.)
17. Entry/Exit procedure? Whilst we have refined the traffic management to try to reduce delays the nature of the site, restricted time of the event, and the volume of vehicles do impose constraints particularly with the bulk of outgoing traffic being concentrated in a fairly short period. Thus we ask for your understanding of that situation, which may be relieved in part by earlier or later departure.


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Maybe it's prompted by my return to grad school, or maybe by a surplus of free time, but I thought I'd write a little piece on the basic and very essential act of Thinking. Actually, I had a dream last night that I already wrote this, so I guess it could be called "Dreaming of Thinking." Or, as someone that took the wrong train today for several stops on the way to work, it would be better to call it "Dreaming Instead of Thinking." But then, that has absolutely nothing to do with the lecture at hand. Clearly, not much thought was put into this opening paragraph.
Let's get into it—I now present you with the classic Liar / Truth Teller Riddle:
"A man finds himself standing in front of two doors: one which leads to heaven and the other which leads to hell. In front of the doors are two guards, one which always lies and the other which always tells the truth. The man does not know which door is which, nor which guard is which. He must ask one question of one of the guards to determine which door will lead him to heaven…"
You may have seen this one before, and you may know the answer. I don't care about that. Pretend you don't. Pretend you're on a reality TV show with no prior knowledge of this riddle, and maybe substitute "Heaven" and "Hell" with the Price is Right showcase containing the new car, and the kind of lame showcase with the weird '70s furniture, respectively.
As you can see, the stakes are high. But let's cut to commercial and discuss this a bit before doing anything rash. How do we go about selecting an appropriate question? How do we know how to evaluate the answer we receive?
Of course, just as you may not need a flashlight to unlock your front door when it's pitch black, you may not need a strategy at all to come up with the correct answer—"fumbling in the dark " can be quite effective, and the correct answers often come out of the blue with seemingly no antecedent.
However, for us mere mortals, we can choose to use our magical gift of reason to light the way for us. I'll describe a simulated thought process:
The first step is to truly UNDERSTAND the problem. This means stripping away the extraneous information. To evaluate each statement, ask yourself whether you can substitute the given subject for another without changing the problem. Start simple: A MAN finds himself STANDING in front of TWO doors. Suppose we want to be politically correct; could we change this to a woman? Of course we can. Maybe she isn't standing. Could she be hopping on one foot? Sure, it makes no difference. Now, what if we changed it to THREE doors? Uh oh…then the contents of the third door is undefined in the description. Better leave it as two doors.
After completing this excision, we have the statements that matter:
(i) Two Doors; one with the desired outcome, one with the undesired outcome.
(ii) One Guard Per Door; one always lies, one always tells the truth. The identity of either is unknown to you.
(iii) One Question Available to Ask Either Guard to Obtain Desired Outcome.
Now, we have some information to work with. We see immediately that asking questions like, "Is it the door on the left?" will not increase our odds beyond that of pure chance; there's no correlation between left and right and lies and truth stated. In fact, there isn't much to go on…but that's a good thing.
Let's examine each statement for any outstanding features. When we do this, we notice that statement (ii) is the only one of note—it gives the CONDITIONS of the problem (the other two simply state the "rules of the game"). Therefore, it is not unreasonable to make an assumption that, if there is, in fact, a solution to this riddle, it should exploit this condition. Let's ask some more questions—specifically, about truth and lies…
If we ask a question that only involves the truth, such as, "Is the Truth Teller guarding the correct door?" we still fail to increase our odds beyond chance; If the Truth Teller is, indeed, guarding the desired door, he will say yes; if not, he will say no. But, if the liar is asked, he will say the opposite. Of course, we have no way of knowing who we asked, so the answer would be meaningless.
This serves to illustrate the fact that you can be on the right PATH to a solution and STILL be no closer to the answer; it's often an all-or-nothing proposition. However, this doesn't mean that our assumption about statement (ii) is incorrect.
After trying out analogous questions involving the Liar only, it becomes apparent that the impediment to our quest to win that sweet 1979 LeBaron lies in the fact that each guard will give opposite answers. If we ask X to the Truth Teller, we receive X. If we ask X to the Liar, we get O. This is a major bummer.
Now, imagine what the solution, if there is one, would hypothetically contain—what would overcome this barrier? Obviously, there would need to be a question that would receive the same answer from either guard. That way, the answer wouldn't be due to chance.
So, now we have two pieces of information about the solution: It must exploit the fact that one guard always lies and one always tells the truth. Also, it must force the same answer from either guard. We can extend this last one by recognizing that such a question would, out of necessity, be interpreted differently by each guard; this means it must be a general question that does not refer to the Liar or Truthteller by NAME.
So now we just need to find a way to throw a monkey wrench in the Truth/Lie machine. A question that somehow exploits the properties of the Liar and Truthteller, without explicitly referring to them, AND forces the same answer from both.
This last bit may be sufficient to spark the answer, but if not, there is one more interesting property about Lies and Truth: If we represent both as binary logic, a lie about a lie will equal the truth…whereas the truth about the truth will STILL be the truth…
Similarly, If you ask the Liar to tell you what HE WOULD SAY if you WERE TO ASK him which door to choose, you'll negate his lie and get the CORRECT door. If you ask the Truth Teller to tell you what he would say, you'll also get the CORRECT door. Both answers are the same; drive that new car off the set and go get your pets spayed or neutered.
The other solution, of course, would be to "bounce" the answers off of one another by asking, "Which door would the OTHER guard tell me to choose?" In this case, both will tell you to choose the incorrect door, so you just choose the opposite one. Both questions, when you pick them apart, serve the same function and satisfy the necessary conditions of our hypothetical solution.
Pretty amazing stuff, this ability we have as thinking humans! Don't feel bad if it took you awhile to get the answer—it took me a long time, and I felt very dumb as a result. It wasn't until I actually sat down and went through all the steps I described that I figured both solutions out (I don't think there are any other solutions that aren't a variation on the one I gave, but I could be wrong).
Now, in our everyday lives, we encounter much more difficult situations with many more variables, and many, many more outcomes. But, when we pick these situations apart, we are often surprised at how much of our confusion stemmed from a simple misreading of a problem, or our inability to visualize what a solution might LOOK like. Thinking is hard! But, if you can find a way understand the problem AND understand what the solution might entail, all the stuff in the middle usually finds a way to work itself out.
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Similarly, If you ask the Liar to tell you what HE WOULD SAY if you WERE TO ASK him which door to choose, you'll negate his lie and get the CORRECT door. If you ask the Truth Teller to tell you what he would say, you'll also get the CORRECT door. Both answers are the same;
You can only negate the liar's answer if you know he is the liar. Since you don't know which is the liar you will get two answers UNLESS you ask them each what the other would say.
Actually the whole point is you just have to ask the guard 1 type of question to test water before asking another one question to determine if he speak the truth or not and it can be any question, not necessary it had to concern the door.
Just ask one of the guard : "Am I an man or a woman/gay", and another guard "Is this the correct door to heaven"(It does not violate asking 1 question to each guard) it is very easy to see who is telling the truth and who is lying.
I thought of a different solution and wondered if anybody else had come up with it (or if there's some reason it wouldn't work):
point to a door and ask one of the guards "Can you tell me that this door leads to heaven?" If it does, the truth-teller will say "yes," and the liar will also say "yes" because he actually can't – that would be telling the truth. If it does not, the truth teller will say "no" because he can't lie, and the liar will also say "no" because he can (he would, in fact, be obligated to). Although I suppose this might just be a variation on the first solution…


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|6th September 2008, 06:23 PM
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Amp emits deafening hum when I switch the kitchen light off!
Sorry to start another hum thread but I think this hum may be a bit out of the ordinary.
I've got two Cyrus Two amps, both bridged to mono, one driving the left channel and one driving the right. Each is connected to its own Cyrus PSX power supply.
The problem is, on the one channel, I sometimes get an extremely loud, frighteningly loud hum when something in the near vicinity is switched off or on. Examples: when I switch the other amp off or on, when I turn the CD player on or off, when I plug my record cleaning machine into the same 6-gang extension and once, according to the missus, when she switched the nearby kitchen light off.
The hum is so terribly loud I've always rushed to switch off the faulty amp as soon as it starts so I haven't yet discovered whether it varies with the volume control or the mute switch, but I suspect it doesn't. It always seems to be at the same volume, regardless of anything else.
Also, the amp makes a very loud click when I turn it on. Actually, when I say turn it on, I mean turn the PSX on, because the power comes from the PSX and it's the PSX you turn on and off.
I'd be very grateful indeed if anyone could suggest what's at fault.
|6th September 2008, 06:39 PM
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Very strange one, sounds like some kind of oscillation being triggered. Maybe a dry joint on the amp board or faulty component.
A bit random but try running the suspect amp without the PSX, just to eliminate that.
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|7th September 2008, 07:59 AM
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Thanks, I will try that, or else swap the PSXs around to see if it's the amp or the PSX at fault.
Meanwhile it's getting even more evil. Last night the hum happened when I switched off the faulty amp itself: in the following few seconds it used all the rapidly fading power at its disposal to emit the same horrific hum. This time I had turned down the volume to zero and switched the input source to mute so I can know say the hum is independent of both.
Anyone have any ideas?
|7th September 2008, 08:24 AM
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When it's on and not making a noise ...
Give the amp and the PSU a big thump !!
That should rule out any bad connection / dry joint
If it ain't broke, break it !! Then fix it again. It's called DIY !
|7th September 2008, 08:58 AM
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The decay of oscilating frequencies of your ligthing bulb (electronic?)
can generate magnetic field into your home wiring..... your amplifier can
be producing huge amplification into this signal, and this amplification can be so huge that can drain your supplie's electrolitic condensers charge...then the supply without good filtering will send mains frequency (hum) into the amplifier sections that will send them to the speaker.... reason why the short timing hum you may be listening.
so.... for small moments, your amplifier may be producing full power into this non audible frequency.... and this may drain the supply filter condenser charge... having not those condensers..you have something alike pulse of mains frequency or double the mains frequency beeing sent to your audio circuits... because powering your amplifier circuits.... audio circuit will amplify this, or, at least, will let this signal goes to the speaker.. as speaker is able to reproduce, then you have sound.
This is possible .... now a days, transistors are able to work into 100 or 150 or 200 Megahertz and they are applied into circuits that will work from 20 Hertz to 20 Kilohertz, (Bureaucratic audio range).. and this is the result...some of them turns into Broadcasting amplifiers, broadcasting receivers of Frequency modulated stations... they are able to work into higher operational frequency than the ones you can listen.
Thanks to transistor factories... they are producing high frequency components, also because market is asking for that...thanks for the designers that wants "more linearity" into 20 kilohertz using parts that are able to work (oscilate) into 200 Kilohertz.... and this pushes the factories to follow the market needs..to offer high frequency transistors.
When you switch "off" electronic ligth bulbs, there are a fast drop of voltage... because they operate from Dc rectified from the mains and charged into a condenser...switching off the mains...this Dc drops fast into the zero volts direction....and those lamps works oscilating into high frequency, this induces higher voltage needed to produce the plasma into the lamp tubes.... but have enormous harmonic contents together the main frequency generated by the lamp... when the power goes off, the frequency comes into a frequency decay... a sweep down of frequencies and harmonics goes sweeping down with harmonic covering a big bandwidth... those lamps has onle "leg" (one wire connected) into the mains wiring... this "leg" of wire turns an aerial (behave as transmitting antenna) as it is in contact with the oscilating circuit, and this irradiates electro magnetic energies.... goes into the air and goes travelling into your home wiring.
This is a possibility, of course your problem can have other sources...other reasons can cause your problem, for sure..but this one is also possible as i had in my home this signal, that was detected into a HF (less than 30 Megahertz) transceiver as signal S plus 30 (very strong).
If this problem is found... and you cannot destroy your lamp bulbs, then have to build a mains filter, with inductors using ferrite core... twisting AC cable around and inner a toroidal ferrite core...have to install high voltage condensers draining some AC energy and capacitors into your audio sensitive circuits too.... also your DC supply may need some condensers and inductors.
But the best solution is to accept this noise and to be happy with it.
Is it really one channel or this "one" channel is just louder than the other seeming to be the single one to operate?
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|7th September 2008, 10:22 AM
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Thank you very much for those very interesting ideas Destroyer X but as you point out, if it is only in one channel, this does seem to suggest that the problem is internal.
I have now tried swapping over the PSX power supplies and I think this narrows it down to the amp, not the PSX. I haven't had a repeat of the hum yet but the other symptom is when you switch on the power supply there is a very loud initial click followed by a whump as the amp powers up. This is still coming from the same amp regardless of the fact that the PSXs have been switched over.
When the hum comes, by the way, it is at quite a low frequency. I'm guessing it's mains frequency.
Poynton - your suggestion certainly has the virtue of simplicity . Although, the amp has recently been on a journey no doubt involving repeated thumps which seem to have made the problem slightly worse rather than better.
|7th September 2008, 12:03 PM
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I see... all i can is to wish you the best possible luck debugging it
I hope you will find the problem... a really big one as i could see.
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|7th September 2008, 03:04 PM
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Thank you Carlos. Poynton, I just got the hum again and gave the top of the amp casing a sharp tap with my knuckles, whereupon the humming stopped! I'm not sure whether this is good news or bad news - does this mean I have to re-solder every single joint in the amp?
|7th September 2008, 03:59 PM
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It's a start anyway...
Take the case off .. after unplugging of course.
Look for an obvious bad joint.
If it is not obvious, reconnect (taking care not to short stuff out )and gently tap components one by one until the noise starts or stops. You can narrow down the search area this way. I would guess that it is near the input.
Then solder..
If it ain't broke, break it !! Then fix it again. It's called DIY !
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Wheel Spacers for winter tires. From 20's to 18s on M-Sport. Review - Photos
Not wanting to end up stuck, stranded or worse, with all these snow projections, I finally got around to installing my winter (all season) tire set last week. My M-Sport 50 is equipped with the 20" wheel option. Love the wide stance but the summer tires are completely useless in any kind of fluff. The M-Sport and 20" Sport activity package come with bigger flares, a small detail but it completely transforms the look of the X5. Sure, I could have went with a set of 20" wheels in stock sizes and just mount a set of winter tires on but I wanted the extra sidewall utility that the 18" factory option offers. My car does see a fair bit of off-roading, so I was actually looking for a set of OEM 18" 210s that I plan on using in the spring and fall to do some fishing, crawling the rocks of Montauk. Thank you Brian, for a really nice set of wheels.
The stock 18" 210 50i wheels are 18x8 with a 46mm offset all around. Compared with the 20x10 40mm front and 20x11 35mm rear 333M wheels of the M-Sport. Doing some calculations, I came up with the position of the tire edge, 97.5mm (275/2-40 ) from the hub face in the front and 122.5mm (315/2-35) in the rear. Compared with the all around 81.5mm (255/2-46) position of the 18" 210 wheels with 255 tires. This leaves us with a nearly 40mm rear bias and 15mm in the front. That means the stock rear 18" wheel is almost 1 5/8" more inward than the 20" option, giving a track width (footprint) that is 1 1/4" smaller in the front and more than 3"smaller in the rear. Imagine how silly the car would look with the stock 18s, on a car that has factory flares. The option besides aftermarket wheels is a set of spacers.
H&R is a reputable company and has just the solution for this situation. They come in varying thicknesses from 5mm to 30mm for the X5. I went with a set of 15mm for the front and 30mm for the rear. This should yield an almost identical front tire outer edge position and a little over 3/8" inward for the rear. The Spacers under 25mm are from the DR series and 25-30mm are from the DRA series. The difference is: DR spacers are bolted through with extended length wheel bolts and DRA are bolted first to the wheel hub and then the wheels get bolted on to the spacers utilizing stock bolts. Note: Extended length bolts are not supplied with the DR system and have to be purchased separately. The DRA will allow you to re-use your Wheel locks because the wheel is held on to the Spacer with he stock bolts. With the DR, If you want locks on your wheels you will have to also procure extended length locks somewhere.
I started by loosening all my bolts with a breaker bar, then jacked up the front and removed one of my front wheels. Cleaned all the hub mating surfaces with a wire brush, them wiped them with WD-40 on a rag. I used a calibrated torque wrench and tightened all my bolts to 107 ft/lbs. Factory torque is 105 ft/lbs. The rear is even easier with the DRAs. You bolt the spacers to the Hub and then the wheel goes on. You don't have to sight three sets of holes to line up as with the DR when you put the wheel on, Hub/spacer/wheel. The DRA instructions state, factory torque on the spacer to hub bolts. I Used 110 ft/lbs. I'd rather be a little over, here, than under.
When I was done with one side of the car, I placed a straight edge against the bottom sidewall of the tires and the fenders, to measure the approximate difference in tire position relative to the fenders. In the front I got 3/8" with the 18s and a hair under 3/8s with the factory 20s. This is almost dead on position and is almost identical to my calculated predicted position. In the rear I got a hair under 3/4" for the 20s and about 1" for with the 18s and spacers. This is less than 1/4" difference. I'm pretty happy with the outcome. It certainly doesn't look anywhere as mean as the look you get with the 20" 315s in the rear but at least it doesn't look dystrophic as it otherwise would with the M-Sport wheel arches and stock 18" tire positions.
H&R makes some very good quality product. The machining, the finish and material quality on the spacers is top notch. Made in Germany, very light weight. I have no reservations about the 30mm DRA spacer being able to support the Loads. The threaded inserts are steel and mushroomed through the back of the spacer. No chance of it ripping out. The wheel will fail first before this spacer sees any stress.
Ride is very smooth, no vibration or adverse feel. It actually improves handling over the stock 18" position and it can be felt. Keep it under 80 taking hard turns and you'd be hard pressed to tell a difference between the 18's and the 20's. I'm actually pleasantly surprised by the how little difference there is in the comfort as well. The 20's are actually a little cushier over smaller road irregularities. The tire pressure was set at 33 PSI front and 35 rear when I put the wheels on. I found coming up to 38 PSI front, 41 rear improved ride comfort.
Here are a few photos I snapped with my phone. It was getting dark so I couldn't get a good rear stance shot and had to do it in my garage.
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Great effort and write up indeed, and the pics too. Question: what about the shift that the spacers introduced to the threads? I mean that staggered setup still aligns threads despide width difference, but when you go to same width tires and shift the rear by spacers the natural alighnment of the threads is lost (from front to rear). I've read somewhere that can cause severe issues with traction/hydroplanning/wet snow. What is your view on that, or any experience already with this setup?
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Wow, detailed explaination. That is great. I'm in an almost reverse scenario, but will take your advise for next winter.
Our 35d came without the sport package and 18" x 8.5" ET46mm wheels. Straight fender flares. I purchased a set of takeofff M Sport wheels/tires (19" style 223), so I just got a box yesterday of the extended fender flares. Can't wait to get rid of the snow so I can change the flares and put the new wheels on.
But, next winter, I'll go back to my 18s with Blizzks and need the spacers, by my calculations at least I'll need 20mm in back. Your 18s are only 8" wide? Were they older?
Great write up, should be in F.A.Q.
Not to hijack, but I'm going the opposite direction like troymi. PM sent. Where you're buying everything?
Hi z51vette
Am avare of tread is a bit old, but I hope you see this.
I am in almost similar situation, summer wheels is 223: 9x19 ET37 & 10x19 ET20 - 255/50x19 & 285/45x19.
Just bought and installed today a new winter set: 8,5x19 ET37 and 255/50x19 all corners - tires Nokian WR SUV 3XL.
With the MSport arches, the new front set up is not far away from summer set up and looks all right. But behind . .the new disappear completely! With a rough calculation I am missing 1 1/2" (app 37mm) on the rim and 17mm on the ET => around 54mm in each side. When measuring with a stick like in your photo I am also getting to 55mm app. I can see H&R goes up to 100mm in total but I am not really comfortable using a 50mm spacer in each side. You are using 30mm, can you share some lights if this have caused you any issue? I am initially leaning towards using 35/40mm in each side from H&R, but would like to hear your opinion and experience if possible.
Thanks in advance
I'm sure a staggered set up works well in snow as many members here have winter tires on a stock 20"set up, but the engineers at BMW must be shaking their heads.
PS. I will use the $400 not spent on spacers for lift tickets and beer
Last edited by Erlkoenig; 11-18-2013 at 04:52 PM.
I have heard this about having front and back in same track, but mainly from this forum. I have tried to google more broad and have not found any evidence that this should be an issue.
Maybe this will have an impact if driving in very deep snow - but when you are turning, the wheels do not follow same 'cut' either?
Have also in mind that many cars actually have a different track width even with same size of wheels front and back. Actually even the X5 is slightly wider back, but this is however minimal.
Not sure about the BMW engineers either, here in Europe quite a lot buy org. winter wheel set up from BMW in the 20" staggered version! But most people prefer the non-staggered and smaller tires (255 typically) as a 315mm tire could be a bit like 'Bambi on ice' if you recall from the Disney movie. So I think it is more about the width rather than having back and front follow same track.
So using spacers or not is more a question about the visual look rather than an eventually difference in performance driving in snow.
This is purely my opinion and I can not document, but on the other hand not able to find any proof of the opposite either.
Would like to hear from users of spacers when running 'thin' winter set up - both pros and cons
I finally got around to switching out the wheels last night. This thread is old, but I actually posted in it earlier this year. But, our vehicle changed in the meantime. We had a diesel that I added flares and M Sport wheels, but now we have a gasser with M Sport package.
So, I didn't take all the pics OP did but here are a few. I use the OEM style 209 wheel 18" x 8.5" with 255/55/18 Bridgestone Blizzak runflat winters. Had them on the diesel last winter for about 6k miles and they were great. ONLY reason I got the runflats is I found them on craigslist unused from a guy for a steal. So, even though I have the spare in back still runflats.
The white M Sport I added H&R 25mm DRA spacers. That is all I wanted. Front is stock mounting. I don't think they look great, but I can deal with this as function will overrule style in heavy snow.
For reference, I'll post a pic on the plat grey diesel with flares.
speaking of H&R spacers:
Thanks for sharing pic. So the white is with 25mm. Not looking that bad, imagine mine is similar and current without, like your grey. Do you feel any difference when driving?
Smyles, what on earth have happened there? This does not look great. How did this happen? Both sides? I do not hope anybody have been in danger due to this.
An X5 owner had them with 21"s, sensed vibration @ high speed, stopped only to discover one lug missing and others loose.
I think I will go for a 30mm behind.
Would it be possible to give a bit more background for this?
Pic does not look good, but first time ever I have heard about something similar
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This is a very bad translation - I can actually not really understand what this guy is writing.
Anyway, pic speak for it self.
But as said before, I have never seen or heard about similar before so might be a one off. And on the other hand, you sometimes also see/hear about a cracked wheel - but how often does it happen? And this is not stopping people buying/using same maker of wheels
Here's my take: the guy put spacers thorough somewhat extreme load conditions - heavy 21" wheels, high speed, probably rather crappy road - and H&R (if it's not a counterfeit one, which is a remote possibility, but still) failed.
Obviously it's a personal decision whether to continue using this or any other product from a particular company; the pics and story were just fyi. But as a side note, I regularly visit and consult forums in other countries, because often they have much more info on problems due to longer and broader experience, tougher conditions and more frank talk. Good example is carbon buildup in diesels that European BMW owners have been dealing with more extensively than we here in US. A lot of knowledge and valuable info even though we have slightly different engines, fuel quality, service, etc.
Last edited by smyles; 11-23-2013 at 04:19 AM.
I basically agree with you, but this looks like a one off. I too read a lot of forums also German and this is the first time I have seen/heard about something like this.
I am from Europe and it is correct that we do see a lot of problems (and expensive) problems due to carbon build up. It is mainly because of wrong usage of a diesel car. 1) Diesel engines are not built for short trips - engine needs to be really warm and for this you need about min 20 km drive each way. 2) many buys a diesel because of economy and in order to get close to promised km/l you really need to drive with a light food => this builds up carbon. A diesel really need to be floored here and then and a good motorway drive with higher reps is good and needed. This cleans the carbon away from system. 3) quite often you see less good quality of diesel, I normally only use high quality diesel like Shell V-power, BP ultimus and similar. Here there is added special additives preventing carbon build up. I also here and there add an additive when filling up. I have been driving various diesel cars for +10 years without problems but I also follow above. As a side note, this is not only BMW diesels, all brands have same issues.
Last edited by JensM; 11-23-2013 at 09:07 AM.
Wheel Spacers for winter tires. From 20's to 18s on M-Sport. Review - Photos
Drove 6 hours yesterday. This morning it's -8 F windchill and snow all day. Good test for the Blizzaks and X drive over next few days. Lots of hills and snow/ice.
No vibration at all from spacers. Even with winters on we averaged 23.5 mpg on computer. Will share any interesting encounters.
Pic is from hotel window so not great! Too cold to stand outside for long.
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Emailed Dave Yesterday about the possibility of the discontinued kit and here was his response by email:
"George, Sorry but I do not have any kits and I am selling the website. The new owner will continue to offer the kits but it may take a few weeks. Thanks again, Dave"
I just got my engine today (runs well by the way, i'll post up pics in another thread tomorrow) and now im wondering if anyone here can help me get a grip on what my options are from here.
Also does anyone know who bought the website/plans/kits and when will they be available?
If the Isuzu diesel swapper kit isnt available anymore, what would be my options?