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Tags: Endorsements Videos Gmarket
yah..funny and they all looking good
I died in 1:30 ohh new record XD
They're soooooo fabulous
These are AMAZING! BIG BANG IS BACK! Please excuse me while I go flail around, fan girl and die from the sheer awesome-ness.,,,
BIGBANG is BACK!!! :D
omgg i love theseeee! videos just make my daaaaeee <3
Can anyone trans what they said? :)
1CF. tabi is acting so cute and dramatic and Bang! then Dae acts so cute and funny :)
LOL-ing so hard IDE
I like the 2nd and 3rd on the best! They seem so funny. They look so suave in the first cf though. I want more though! hehehe
ADORABLE. 'specially the GDTOP one :P
Any kind soul out there willing to translate what they were saying? ;_;
i like how GD & TOP say iiship… shipee….iiship…shipeeeeee.
OMG LOLOLOL this is toooooooooo funnny! :)Each one of BIGBANG members are soo cute!
&&& I know that GD is just acting, but he's pretty scary when he looks all serious. GO BIGBANG! GO GMARKET!
i bet the CFs are funny … now i need to watch them subbed to confirm that. anyways, the boys look gorgeous.
Then Tae is forever alone! HAHAHHAA…
TODAE cf
TOP: Why are you provoking me? Why are you provoking only me?! WHY ARE YOU PROVOKING ONLY ME?! WHY ARE YOU PROVOKING ME?! WHY ARE YOU PROVOKING ONLY ME?! Daesung: We're provoking because you're in your 20s (Alternative: It's 12 because you're in your 20s)Narrator: In 2012, (people in their) 20s are G Market. (People in their) 20s during all of 2012 will receive a 12% discount. 2012, Big Bang is starting. 2012, G Market.
[T/N: The Korean word for provoking an argument or a fight with someone is "shi-bi", which sounds the same in pronunciation as "ship-eee" (or "shib-eee"), which means "twelve". Daesung's line is a play on the words based on TOP's line)
G-ri cf
GD: How many times do you want to get hit?Seungri: 20 timesTaeyang: 20 times?Narrator: In 2012, (people in their) 20s are G Market. (People in their) 20s during all of 2012 will receive a 12% discount. 2012, G Market
Thank you so much :)
These CFs are brilliant. You can tell the writers put lots of thought into the script to really capture the funniest and most endearing qualities of their relationships :)
This CF is quite serious, but I keep on giggling coz I remember their behind the scene that is so hilarious, Oh Our Boys melting us again ^_^
i can just imagine TOP repeating that word just to irritate the rest of the guys.
oh, sure love seeing all 5 of them together !
GD: So what is it today?TOP: (A Korean game in which one person says a word, and the next person thinks of aword that starts with the last letter/syllable of that word, and so on). Eee-ship (20).GD: Ship? Ship-eee (12).TOP: Eee-ship (20).GD: Ship-eee (12).TOP: (scoff) Eee-ship (20).GD: Ship-eee! (12)TOP: Eee-ship (20).Narrator: In 2012, (people in their) 20s are G Market. (People in their) 20s during all of 2012 will receive a 12% discount.2012Big Bang is starting2012, G Market
awww my poor baby xDi love u Taeyang!
i did not understand the CFs, but i kept laughing because the way Daesung answered t.o.p in the 2 CF. lol
i woke up at 8am just for this and it is worth itttt BIG BANG IS BACKK♥
i don't understand the second todae cf but when daesung suddenly spoke, i just laughed. maybe beacuase of the voice :)
Tae really looks chubby when he said his line. LOLOLOL not a good angle XD
The CFs are brilliant "Shi-bi, ship-ee, ii-ship" OMG XD . Hahahha, LOL at Daesung's part XD
LOL . u guys are right . the 3 CFs are GRi, GTOP and ToDae ,, XDD
anybody could subtitle this? ^^ i wonder what they were saying…
it's funny. ahahaha. should it be funny?xDbut it does for meee~esp when daesung talked. ahahahaha
Lmao.. So cute!!!!! XD are they like super complaining with each other because of the discount price??? ^^
TOP : *screaming in depressed* *screaming* *feel wronged*Daesung : * one sentence of punch line*-silence-TOP : -____________-
taeyang forever needs a chair.. lol.. :P
the director seems did a research for the boys.. GRI, GTOP & TODAE..sadly, they found out that Taeyang is forever alone.. LOL..
my fav so far is the second one.. TODAE.. TOP shouting and yelling about something and then Daesung crack a joke.. hahaha..
this is kyeopta~!!!!! weeeeeheeee!!! BIGBANG is BACK!!!!!! ^O^ they're HAWT!!!! woot! woot!! ^.^ <3333331ST::: [ GD: How many times do you want to get hit?Seungri: 20 timesTaeyang: 20 times?Narrator: In 2012, (people in their) 20s are G Market. (People in their) 20s during all of 2012 will receive a 12% discount. 2012, G Market ]~~ SeungRi's good lookin'!!! ^.~ and GD's like a boss!!! love Taeyang's reaction!! xD and TOP's eyes —- kkkkk~!!!!! 2ND::: [ TOP: Why are you provoking me? Why are you provoking only me?! WHY ARE YOU PROVOKING ONLY ME?! WHY ARE YOU PROVOKING ME?! WHY ARE YOU PROVOKING ONLY ME?! Daesung: We're provoking because you're in your 20s (Alternative: It's 12 because you're in your 20s) ]~~ Dae's response >>> LMAO!!! xD xD clap clap clap TOP-oppa!!! ^O^3RD::: [ GD: So what is it today?TOP: (A Korean game in which one person says a word, and the next person thinks of aword that starts with the last letter/syllable of that word, and so on). Eee-ship (20).GD: Ship? Ship-eee (12).TOP: Eee-ship (20).GD: Ship-eee (12).TOP: (scoff) Eee-ship (20).GD: Ship-eee! (12)TOP: Eee-ship (20). ]~~ hahaha!! GTOP quarreling!!! =DLOVE THIS!!!!! <3333333333
watch this in the morning. brighten my day cuz its funny and awesome! hahaha ;p
omgomgomgomg they are f**king back! XD spaaaazzzinggg~~~ <33
i´ll wait for subs :P
Yepp died 3 times. A record for me lol .
G-Dragon's nostrils , HAHAH xD default7360 {"method":"validate","params":[],"id":1,"jsonrpc":"2.0″}
Last videos like fight couple. lol
they were to cute :) and tabi voice :D
One reaction = LMFAOOO!!!! xD
OMG, I didn't understand a word they said, but everything was just too funny!! They are definitely back :)
And the quarreling with GD&TOP was cute :P
daesung ah..you never fail to make me lough!
very very entertaining and . . . hilarious!!!you can see the seriousness but also the comedy of the situation in the cfs, especially the second and the third one. i can't help laughing at daesung's reaction to tabi's outrageous act in the 2nd vid; and the confrontation between tabi and gd is just dramatic!korean directors never fail to punctuate a vid with laughters and sense of humour XDanother focus : tabi's facial expression and body gesture at 0:26 near the end in each cf vid, styled like a gangster. i'm seriously demanding you to take part in another movie, top!!!
this CF is so LOL!
yeah i know your meaning. top can fool around by repeating the same word or phrase all day for fun XDD
omg these commercials are so sexy!! >~< no idea what they are saying but dammm. specially like the 2nd one :3 BIGBANG FIGHTING!!
the setting and concept of this cf looks cool and mysterious..love it..GD looks extremely handsome…with the black clothes..i think they're talking about 2012??..kinda don't understand what they say..anyway..seeing the boys back in ACTION..make me can't wait for march 2012..more surprises for VIP IN 2012…WOW…
not really if u notice he's really very close with seungri nowadays..;)
thank you…
i was just about to comment~~kkk :P
wordplay is definitely dae's type of joke :P
Yaah Daesung~~~~~you never failed to amused me^^_^^
TODAE= must be really hard to control their laugh
GDTOP = couple argue!!!LOL
yahhh daesungie jjangidaaaa ! hahaha! daebak ~ 20…12…20…12… ! XD
HELP!!! I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!!!!!!!x3333333333333333
thank you so much for posting the CFs and those of you who kindly posted the translations in your comments… highly appreciated!!! ^_^ thank you!
my fave was TODAE but the other too were brilliant too…!!! i can't pick… the jokes were witty and the guys acted brilliantly.
TOP looked beautiful, Dae's comedic timing… impeccable as always.ROFLd at Tae when he asked "20 times?' in response to Seungri.
Baby Panda was brill!
omg! GD… intense O_O LIKE A BOSS!!! :P<3
they make being in your 20s feel awesome [like it does, i should know, i'm 22!]
I can't stop watching the GRi and GTOP ones, LOL. The one where TOP freaks out is hilarious though! XDDD
Hahahah the ToDae and GTOP ones are so funny! Love it!
TOP is yelling around so many times and then Dae just answered in one line and TOP is like -____- hahhaha
The way GD & TOP argue is adorable!! :D
GD is investigating Seungri…LOL!!!! expected couple!!!TOP acting all the way silly as always he and his goofiness…gotta love him..and i cracked with DAE DAE's rection to TABI…OMG..what a cute impression…and the Ultimate GDTOP couple..LOLLLL…..like to babies fighting over a toy..GD:mineTop:NOO..mineGD:mineTOP:mineit really sounded and seemed like that..!!!!!!!LOVE THE CFs……A specil gift for VIPs..Thank you so much O.O>>>:)
TOP has flying saliva hahaha… their CF is soo funny.. especially i don't understand what they are saying… i hope someone translates this soon :)
How dare you say that!! *ROLLEYES*
COOL CF !!! but i don't know why i laugh so hard<3
Are these like commercials for Korean TV? Freakin' cool as heck! Imagine watching a horror movie & these funny commercials came on… It would set the mood totally different! LOL I wish America had commercials of BIGBANG… I wouldn't mind the commercials at all!! lol Every one of these three have a very special part that stands out… to me at least.
The first one was when Taeyang repeated what Seungri said around 0:14. His expression was just funny. The way he said it was cute!! ^__^ The second one was, of course, Daesung around 0:14 also!!! While TOP spazz out on the boys, they all were just standing there looking at him while Daesung said his line with so much cuteness! <3 & lastly, the third clip... While they both kept repeating and their tone changes every time... GD had this cute tone when around 0:14 ... "SHIPEEEEEE!" lol
NOTICE all the parts that stands out are all at 0:14 ?? That's crazy! I didn't know until I wrote it down just now. O_o haha
@0 of 2nd vid, I JUST DIED! lol
OMG GD IS SO CUTE. SHIB EEEEEEEEEEEEE. xD
OH MY GHAD! they are looking HOT!!
:)) *drools*
Baebae doesn't have a partner?? :(
Does anyone know what are T.O.P keep repeating in the second video?? I'm really curious….>.<
DAEBAK!!!!!!!! d^^b now, i'm addicted to eee-ship..ship-eee XD
haha,the second CF make me LOL :D
the best commercial ever…i used to think that commercial just distracting me…..but with this kind of commercial, i would love if they play it 1000 times per day…so lovely…..
omg, this is completely what I didn't expect xD I though it'd be serious mafia business or something but it's a play of words and it makes it hella funny XD
Good job G-Market, those CFs are really well-made :D
I THINK THE TOP AND DAESUNG ONE IS MY FAVORITE! XD Dae's responce was so unexpected!
Tom and Jerry directed out
Some VIP out there please translate those CFs >__<
Awh, GRI, I actually seriously wonder if they love each other :3 but, WE GOTTA LOVE ALL OF THEM; GDRAGON, SEUNGRI, TOP, DAESUNG, AND TAEYANG! <3
Hhahhahah I was spazzing like HELL of a fangirl whilst watching this lol. LOVE THIS! DAEBAK!!
omg there's one for each of my otps.
notice how GMARKET paired our fave OTPs in each videos.. :)Todae and Gri. ^^
They're so cute..
I soooo love it!!!!!!!!!…hahhahah!!!..I miss them!


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Ceramic Tile Staining Over Radiant Floor Heating?!
Hi folks,
I'm a co-owner of a flooring store and I ran into an issue I'd never heard of. Wonder if any of you have any ideas as to the problem.
Here is the issue: My customer installed a Single Fired Ceramic (not porcelain) tile floor in his basement over radiant floor heating 11 years ago. About 3 years ago he noticed that one of those tiles had a fleck of discolouration, now that discolouration has spread to another tile.
My suspicion is that he has a leak in the heating system that has caused a moisture issue from beneath the tile (because it seems to be spreading.) But that's all I can think of. I suggested he "rough" up the grout a little bit to see if it seems moist and that might help determine if that's the issue.
Any ideas, or has anyone ever seen this type of issue?
Thanks in advance!
do an air or water pressure test to see if it holds
I would guess it probably is moisture issue as well. What I would do is call a couple of the tile company technical support 1-800 numbers...like Dal tile etcc....tell them the problem and see what they suggest. There is allot of new products out there every day that make for simple solutions.....good luck
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elective 2 | khyati trehan
the beauty of scientific diagrams
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elective 2
the beauty of scientific diagrams An experiment in taking form integration to scientific diagrams and briefly studying the history of science. student: khyati trehan GDPD Graphic Design '10 email@example.com
guide: Mr. Rupesh Vyas
contents project proposal original idea process
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phase one: research who invented what? why diagrams? domain of study sources of information
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phase two: visual intervention skeletons modifying diagrams
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phase three: design development and visual language basic vector line arts context and visual language references for visual language technique: stippling colour illustration treatment layouts final layout
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phase four: execution extension
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reflections bibliography acknowledgments
project proposal
here are several questions and lives of scientists, theories, inventhat have intrigued us since tions and discoveries and simplify comthe dawn of humanity. The plex mechanisms for myself, making story of our search to answer those them easier to remember. I also wish questions is the story of science. Of to pay a tribute to the great and the almost all human endeavours, science familiar, as well as the great but relhas had the greatest impact on our atively unfamiliar scientists. Bringing lives. Great science happens when bril- lettering and typography into the picliant minds collide with new discover- ture will also give me insights on strucies and tools at specific points in time. ture and form. These intriguing and sometimes quirky insights are summarized as diagrams target audience that find themselves to be an indispen- The target audience could be anyone sable part of the history of science. The who is interested in science and appremerger of the creative and the intel- ciates the beauty of diagrams. lectual, design and science, is the idea of a diagram. process • Collection of information and underobjective standing key events, scientists and genThe aim of the project is to explore sci- eral history of several fields of study entific diagrams and take form inte- within science. • Analysis and synthegration to more complex territories sis of data. Zeroing down on diagrams than the ones ventured in before, in who's underlying structure resembles courses at nid. The project is there- that of initials of scientists responsifore a skill-based one that will look at ble for that diagram. • Design develexperimenting with typography, letter- opment and visual language/style deciing and illustration, paying tribute to sion-making. • Execution of design. the history of science.
scope During the course of this project, I hope to learn about the contribution
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original idea Fig.(Below) Comparison of 'W' with the blood circulation diagram and the process behind the William Harvey poster.
he prevailing idea that the project stems from is something I'd done in the past. The course was Advanced Graphic design, and the brief was to make posters, one on a designer (I chose Evelin Kasikov, a young designer that mixes embroidery with typography) and the other on a non-designer. Around the time this assignment was given to us, I happened to be reading a book called the 'Ten beautiful experiments' and was stuck at a chapter about 'William Harvey', a physician who explained blood circulation accurately. Before this, blood was thought to flow to and fro like tides. Even though the chapter was simplifying explanation, making the content digestive for the lay man, it was difficult to visualize the positions of pulmonary veins and the aorta and so on, within the diagram to understand circulation correctly. For this, I was referring to heart diagrams till I found one that looked a lot like the infinity symbol. From assignments in letter integration throughout the course of Basic graphic design, I remember trying to look for recognizable skeletons and negative spaces of
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letterforms, one of which was the letter 'W' that could be stretch to form the infinity symbol. I mentally combined these two occurrences to integrate W, the initial of William Harvey, and the blood circulation diagram that Harvey discovered, arriving at a solution for the 2nd assignment of a poster on a nondesigner. This was more complex than the form integrations we've done in the past; those involved fairly simple pairs of forms. The Harvey poster involved integration of a letterform and an entire structure or a system that a diagram is. This poster stayed with me even while I was working on other projects and assignments. The poster's onset and execution was a matter of two days and I wanted to do justice to the core idea, making it fit to be taken ahead as the 2nd elective to make a family of letters. The task of arriving at 26 letters seemed daunting, knowing that it is close to looking for a double coincidence of wants (like in barter system); the skeleton of the initial of the scientist should be similar to the diagram that they made, and the diagram should have a structure similar to that of the letter concerned, or be flexible enough to fit it into the mould of the letterform.
process Fig.(Right) Charting out the process to be followed during the project.
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phase one research
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he first phase of the project was the most time consuming and also the most enriching as it required me to dive into books and documentaries. The science of most of today's fundamental principles all had unassuming beginnings, whether it was Faraday discovering electromagnetism or Bernoulli discovering the equation that now bears his name. I looked at the most influential and pivotal contributors and contributions that shaped Science over the last two thousand years. Including the research done through the course of this project would amount to rewriting books. My methodology was broken into two variants, keeping the objective of the project in mind. The first included generating lists: alphabetically ordered scientists and discoverers. I studied their respective discoveries, inventions patents, theories and dug for diagrams, I'd break into phase two of the project and consider comparing the diagrams with the initials of the scientists to look for opportunities of form integration, then return to looking at the lists for other scientists. The 2nd methodology was more free-flowing and involved immersing myself into fundamental theories of physics and chemistry through films and books, as lists
found online don't cover all contributions made to science and exclude the role of power, proof and passion played in the story of science. Even though the project dealt with what scientists did and not who they were, insights into their lives revealed stories of those diagrams, the possible train of thoughts running through the scientists' minds at the time of the invention or discovery, and the instruments used at that time. A set of 26 letters, and diagrams suggested that I'd have to pick 26 scientists that have made the most significant contributions to science. But arriving at a letter-diagram was not based on choice but what you find after extensive research. One of the things I kept in mind was that, much like the William Harvey poster, I would make working models and not just suggestive posters. If they were to be animated, the diagram should be self explanatory.
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w h o i n v e n t e d w h at ? "In science the credit goes to the man who convinces the world, not the man to whom the idea first occurs. " —Charles Darwin
of Sprengel pump) and high resistance that made power-distribution economically viable. Because of this perplexity, I could not include the diagram in this project, however tempting it was due to its simplicity. This was just one example. It seems that no diagram is solely authored by its creator – it takes a culmination of centuries of accumulated knowledge to arrive at something.
t is quite difficult to attribute an invention or a discovery to only one person. The whole history of science is often told as a series of eureka moments and the ultimate triumph of the rational mind. But the truth is the problem: that power, passion,rivalry and blind This project counts in choosing one chance have played equally significant inventions and fitting it into one iniparts. The best example to accompany tial, thereby attributing it to only one this statement would be the knowledge individual. This doesn't accord with of Thomas Edison as the inventor of the history of the subject I intended the light bulb. to immerse myself to. Thomas Edison invented the light bulb. Period. Most authors and histo- the solution: rians would beg to differ. He modified I dug into patent drawings and versions the invention for mass production and of the inventors. Leeuwenhoek was not was the 1st to form a lighting system, the first to invent a microscope. But the thereby bringing light to homes. This version he constructed with his own contribution has proven to be large hands and submitted patents of, holds enough to overshadow the work of pre- him credible enough to be called the vious inventors, which lists to about father of microbiology. Notice that this 22 in number (according to historians diagram looks nothing like the microRobert Friedel and Paul Israel). Edi- scope we know through our textbooks. son's version was able to outstrip the In short, I tried to dig up the original, others because of an effective incandes- which, sadly enough was far from an cent material, higher vacuum (by use easy task.
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why diagrams?
n the book The Culture of Diagram, a diagram includes "reductive renderings, usually carried out as drawings, using few if any colours; they are generally supplemented with notations keyed to explanatory captions, with parts correlated by means of a geometric notational system." In effect, a diagram is any idea made visual. It is where the intellectual and the creative meet. We have so become accustomed to diagrams we hardly notice them, or appreciate them for what they do for us. They span from family trees, maps, pie charts to architectural floor plans, cave paintings and line graphs. The discipline of study that finds diagrams close to indispensable, is science. Diagrams serve as a tool to aid scientists in making enormously complex calculations and to simplify even more complex theories and mechanisms for others. But one of the greatest powers of a diagram is that it can pass on ideas.
Fig.(Left) Da Vinci's Vitruvian Man
Fig.(Bottom) Copernicus' heliocentric diagram
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domain of study
s I kept sketching alongside, I realized that there was a variety of visual language going around in terms of the form that the diagrams had. For example, diagrams that fell under biology were organic compared to the diagrams of physics, chemistry and other extensions of the two that were more mechanical visually. After narrowing down on sketches
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and options, I was left with very few biological diagrams and quite a few related to physics and chemistry. In the family of letter drawings that involved mechanical styles, organic letters seems out-of-place. A set aims to be at the same level, which is why I took the decision of omitting biology from the list of categories.
Fig.(Below) Brain-storming sheets charting out domains of study, process, time lines of process and style.
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s o u r c e s o f i n f o r m at i o n I selectively collected a list of relevant films and documentaries for a more free flowing form of research. Below is a list.
the beauty of diagrams Documentary It is a BBC series in which mathematician Marcus du Sautoy explores the stories behind some of the most familiar scientific diagrams. The six episodes cover: • Pioneer Plaque,a diagram placed on a space probe to explain mankind to et life • dna and the diagram of the double helix • Da Vinci's Vitruvian Man • Copernicus's diagram of a suncentred universe • Newton's Prism • Florence Nightingale's diagram of the importance of better hospital sanitation.
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physics, chemistry, top 10 discoveries of all time, astronomy, biology and genetics.
the story of science: power, proof and passion Documentary Michael Mosley, a journalist explains how knowledge of science has grown over time. The series explains some of the great figures in the history of science - Galileo, Newton and Darwin but also of the astronomer who lost his nose in a duel but helped create a new vision of the cosmos and the alchemist who tried to make gold from human urine, and set us on the course to modern chemistry.
100 greatest discoveries
great lives from history: inventors and inventions
TV Mini-series
Bill Nye hosts a series that highlights the greatest scientific discoveries of all time, from the earliest time to the present day. The series features nine episodes. These include subjects such as evolution, the earth sciences, medicine,
The book written by Abbas ibn Firnas and Philip Emeagwali contributes indepth critical essays on important men and women in all areas of achievement, from around the world and throughout history.
phase two v i s ua l intervention
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hase two finally brought in visuals to the project as it involved investigating diagrams, breaking them down into components and mechanisms, playing with the frame of diagram and exploring possibilities of modifying or extending the frame to fit the skeleton of the initial of the scientist. A letterform begins with a skeleton, or a single line frame of the alphabet, which is later fleshed out with a certain contrast flow. The skeleton determines the width of the letter, the x-height, and the general proportions of components of each letter. Its the difference between the skeletons that makes typefaces characteristically different from each other. The study of skeleton helped understand the extent to which a diagram would need to be modified, so that the desired letter becomes recognizable.
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Fig.(Left) Exploring skeletons of all upper case alphabets.
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modifying diagrams Fig.(Below) Ampère's force law: Force of attraction or repulsion between two currentcarrying wires.
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o integrate a letterform and a diagram, it was necessary to modify the diagram to a certain extent; so that the skeleton of the diagram matched that of the letter. This modification could easily turn into a mutation of the diagram, rendering it meaningless. To avoid this, I had to study the diagram's mechanism, read the patents submitted by the scientists concerned, look for user manuals and instructions and of course, understand the theoretical bits that had to do with the experiment. This way, it was easier to gauge which part of the diagram could be trifled with, without changing the observations and conclusions of the experiment/mechanism the diagram illustrated. For example, Anton Van Leeuwenhoek's single lens microscope gave him the honour of being the 1st ever man to observe cells, or animalcules, as he termed them. The main parts of the device are the spoke, where the specimen is mounted and the observer is, where the bead sized lens is fixed. The rest of the body of the instrument is used to adjust position of the two main parts mentioned above, so as to bring the animalcules into focus. The arm is
used for mounting the instrument on a platform, to make peaking through the lens and steady adjustments possible. Therefore, the instrument would be unaffected in terms of its function if the arm was extended till if formed the horizontal stroke of L: the initial of Leeuwenhoek. The aim was to find form integration solutions for all letters from A to Z. However, since the find depended on if the diagram could be stretched to make a letter, it was difficult to find scientists with the initials of their last names with X and Q. As for the only other letter missing in the character set, P had least number of scientists to choose from under its belt. Unfortunately, most of these scientists were theoretical scientists such as Planck, Priestley etc and their experiments did not involve elaborate diagrams.
Fig.(Left) Diagrams of Aristarchus and Archimedes.
Fig.(Below) Diagrams of Robert Boyle and Alexander Graham Bell.
The diagrams illustrate the findings of André-Marie Ampère, a French physicist and mathematician. Each wire generates a magnetic field and the other wire experiences a Lorentz force as a consequence. Other sketches include Aristarchus of Samos who tried to measure the distances to and sizes of the Sun and Moon. The diagram of Archimedes' invention of the first water-screw was taken forward because of its form and ingenuity. Diagrams of scientists starting with a 'B' included Alexander Graham bell, the engineer credited with inventing the first practical telephone, and Boyle's the Law of Ideal gases for (which he remains most famous for). Robert Boyle's diagram included two containers, much like the 'bowls' of the letter B and so the diagram after modification fit well into the skeleton.
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Fig.(Right) Marie Curie's diagram of alpha decay of polonium.
Fig.(Below) The works of Descartes, Daguerre, Disney, and Doppler.
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Marie Curie obviously made it to the list, being the first woman to win the Nobel Prize for her work with radioactivity. The polonium atom fits into the ball terminal of the C. The scientists starting with a D included Louis Daguerre for his daguerreotype, one of the first processes of photography, Walt Disney famous for his animations and the invention of multiplane camera, Louis Descartes, who came up with the Cartesian plane we use so often in geometry. However, the work of Christian Doppler and the Doppler effect was the most intriguing amongst the lot.
Euclid, the Greek mathematician is referred to as the Father of Geometry. His Elements is one of the most influential works in the history of mathematics. Below are some diagrams from the same book, outlining proofs involving parallel line, given that the letter E itself is made from three parallel lines
and so such diagrams would work well. Edison's lesser known invention is the phonograph, which evolved to become the gramophone. Modifying such a diagram was more challenging. At the end, I arrived at more intricate forms, vis-avis Euclid's simple line diagrams. Fig.(Left) Euclid's geometrical proofs and Edison's phonograph.
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Fig.(Right) Works of Enrico Fermi and Michael Faraday.
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Competitors for the classification of F involved Enrico Fermi, the Italian physicist who innovated the nuclear reactor and won the Nobel prize for physics, and Michael Faraday, who's experiments in physics and chemistry have become common ideas in physics. Faraday made one of his greatest discoveries—electromagnetic induction: the "induction" or generation of
electricity in a wire by means of the electromagnetic effect of a current in another wire. To modify the diagram of the principle, wires took the place of horizontal stroke of the letter F, the stem was broken into coils and the end serifs took shape into the galvanometer and the battery.
The first name that comes to minds with G is Galileo. The Italian physicist's achievements include improvements to the telescope and consequent astronomical observations, and the pendulum. I attempted to take the pendulum forward to fit G but it did not work well. Johannes Gutenberg's invention of the printing press caused a revolution and his contribution is hard to ignore. The modification resulted in an expressive diagram rather than a working model, though the form was
interesting so I took it ahead. For the letter H, I settled on Hero of Alexandria, the Greek mathematician. He developed many mechanical machines that had practical uses. They included a water organ, fire engine, and the Aeolopile. The latter device was the earliest known steam-powered engine, which was a rotary steam engine that consisted of one sphere mounted on a boiler and having two canted nozzles that produced a rotary motion from the escaping steam. Fig.(Left) G for Galileo's pendulum and Gutenberg's printing press.
Fig.(Left) A few innovations of Hero of Alexandria, including the aeolopile.
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Fig.(Right) Jacob's staff, Joule's experiment of the mechanical equivalent of heat, and Jansky satellite which was used to discover cosmic rays. Sumio Iijuma's carbon nanotube was finalized for the letter I.
Jacob's staff is used in astronomy and navigation to measure angles. The origin of the name of the instrument is uncertain. Karl Jansky was an American physicist and radio engineer who radio waves emanating from the Milky Way. The curve in the satellite dish was be used for making the J. The modification was distorting the original diagram and so the idea had to be dropped. The diagram of James Joule on the other hand, was more flexible. Joule studied the nature of heat, and discovered its relationship to mechanical work . For the letter I, there were few options. It was narrowed down to Sumio Iijima, a Japanese physicist cited as the inventor of carbon nanotubes.
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August KekulĂŠ was a German organic chemist, most famous for his the structure of benzene. The hexagon of benzene was modifiable to a small extent. Kepler's third law of planetary motion without any modification resembled a K but was visually weak as it consisted only of lines. Kirchoff 's circuit laws as well as work with black body radiation had a skeleton that could be stretched to form a K. The diagram that dealt with spectroscopy seemed easier to understand for the viewer and was worked upon. Fig.(Left) Works of KekulĂŠ, Kepler and Kirchoff.
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Fig.(Right) Leeuwenhoek's L shaped microscope.
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Antonie van Leeuwenhoek, a Dutch tradesman and scientist is commonly known as 'the Father of Microbiology'. He is best known for his work on the improvement of the microscope and for his contributions towards the establishment of microbiology. The bracket that the microscope rested on could be extended to make an L, without contorting the diagram. The diagram of Mendel, the man who demonstrated that the inheritance of traits in pea plants follows particular patterns, involved two peaks. It was difficult to construct an M that was recognisable from it.
Samuel Morse was an American painter who turned inventor. He contributed to the invention of a singlewire telegraph system and co-invented the Morse code. The diagram was complex and so had to be broken down into lines and dots first. The number of junctions or points in an M, that is 5, matched the number of core elements in the diagram, leaving connecting wires in the middle to construct the remaining letter.
Fig.(Left) Works of Gregor Mendel and Samuel Morse.
Fig.(Left) Newton's first and 2nd laws of motion.
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Fig.(Right) Newton's inverse square law of gravitational force.
Fig.(Below) Ă˜rsted's experiment and O.Lawrence's cyclotron.
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The number and kinds of diagrams the works of Isaac Newton offered were enough to choose from. These consisted of Newton's first and second laws of motion. However, I had to narrow down on Newton's inverse squared law of gravitation, although it wasn't much of a success. Hans Ă˜rsted was a Danish physicist and chemist who discovered that electric currents create magnetic fields, an important aspect of electromagnetism. The integration of his experiment looked forced though. Ernest O. Lawrence was an American scientist who invented the cyclotron, a particle accelerator.
Fig.(Left) Pasteur and his swan neck flask experiment.
Louis Pasteur was a French chemist and biologist who proved the germ theory of diseases and invented the pasteurisation. Before this was validated, germs were believed to be spontaneously generated. It was the idea that certain forms such as fleas could arise from inanimate matter such as dust, or that maggots could arise from dead flesh. To prove his point, Pasteur used
the swan neck flask which significantly slows down the movement of bacteria into the test tube. The curved form of the flask was very organic and did not fit the set well. Other scientist such as Planck were mostly theoretical physicists. The letter P as well as Q had to be excluded from the set due to unavailability of diagrams. phase two | 29
Ernest Rutherford is known most for his gold-foil experiment. The experiment yielded unexpected results, proved the structure of the atom and did away with the plum pudding model. A small portion of the particles were deflected, indicating a small, concentrated positive charge. Contenders for the category of T include J.J. Thomson who showed that the cathode rays were composed of a previously unknown negatively charged particles called electrons, and Tesla. Tesla won hands down, though what to credit him with became dicey. He is best known for his contributions to the design of the modern alternating current (ac) electricity supply system. When the armature rotates in the magnet file between two pole magnets, an induced current (e.m.f.) is produced in the coil due to change in magnetic flux. The diagram snugly fit into the letterform T. Fig.(Above) Rutherford's golf-foil experiment.
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Lewis Urry was a Canadian chemical engineer and inventor. He invented both the alkaline battery and lithium battery while working for the Eveready Battery company. The representation was fairly simple and just needed some parts to be curved. For V, I took up the work or Ales-
sandro Volta, an Italian physicist wellknown for the invention of the battery in the 1800s. I had worked on the same scientist before but modified the half cell diagram into an A for Alessandro. This time, I modified it into a V from the Voltaic pile diagram. The diagram resembled a high contrast V. Fig.(Left) Alkaline battery invention of Lewis Urry and voltaic pile invention of Alessandro Volta.
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Fig.(Right) Eli Whitney's cotton gin.
The third best known American inventor of the pre-atomic age, after Thomas Edison and Alexander Graham Bell, is probably Eli Whitney. He invented the cotton gin and automated cotton production in the South. Whitney's inventions made him one of the fathers of the textile industry and American mass Fig.(Above) Young's double slit experiment that resulted in an interference pattern.
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production movement. Thomas Young was an English scientist and polymath. He is best known for the double-slit experiment (Young's interference experiment) which demonstrates that matter and energy can display characteristics of both waves and particles.
Vladimir Zworykin was a RussianAmerican engineer, and pioneer of television technology. Zworykin invented a television transmitting and receiving system employing cathode ray tubes. One of the components of the television system is the iconoscope—a tube for television transmission used in the first cameras. A series of lenses focuses the image on an image plate. Instead of being chemically treated like a film plate, the image plate is connected to photoelectric cells. A cathode-ray tube sweeps the image on the plate with a charged beam. Onto the mica plate is a
mass of minute sections of highly conductive silver oxide insulated from each other, which is now known as a pixel. The diagram include a diagonal tube and horizontal rays, similar to the skeleton of the letterform Z.
Fig.(Left) The iconoscope.
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phase three design development a n d v i s ua l l a nguag e
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basic vector line arts
he interdependency of letterform and diagram in terms of the skeletons required the study of different typefaces. The diagram would have to be modified into a letter. The skeleton as well as the flesh of the reference typeface for the letter would have to have features similar to the frame of the diagram. The process also taught me about characteristic features of some typefaces. For example, F for Faraday involved thick coils and thin wires . A typeface that offers a similarly strong contrast of thick and thin is Bodoni. Therefore the reference letterform used for F for Faraday was set in Bodoni. Another example would be
the cyclotron diagram. The cyclotron required no modification as it already had features similar to the initials of the inventor足: O. Lawrence. As a reference typeface, a close to perfect circle was taken. Gotham, a widely used geometric sans serif fit the above brief well. I drew vector line arts with letters set in different typefaces as backdrops, for reference. The rendering technique for the same followed.
Fig.(Below) Vector line arts of Faraday, Leeuwenhoek, O.Lawrence and Eli Whitney coming together to spell 'flow'.
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ITC Caslon
Info Archer
a for archimedes
b for boyle
c for curie
d for doppler
j for joule
i for iijima
k for kirchoff
l for leeuwenhoek
m for
Akzidenz Grotesk
Rotis Sans Serif
s for shockley
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t for tesla
u for urry
v for volta
Optima Times
Bodoni XT
e for edison
f for faraday
g for gutenberg
h for hero
Myriad Gotham
Letter Gothic Std
r morse
n for newton
o for o.lawrence
r for rutherford
Myriad Pro Didot
Dax Frutiger
w for whitney
y for young
z for zworykin
Fig.(Above) Vector line arts and reference typefaces
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c on t e x t & v i s ua l l a nguag e
efore narrowing down on the context of these illustrations, I spontaneously tried various styles as soon as the vectors were ready. These included vectors involving gradients, that looked much like textbook diagrams. The other attempt involved using a brush pen and so the strokes had an air of ease about them. I also tried one style for Edison's diagram of the phonograph to make diagrams more inviting. The detailed textures and warm colours made the letter look like it could belong to a set for an animation feature.
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The initial association to science that comes to mind is the teaching of science, textbooks and how daunting a subject of study science is. Diagrams make explanations clearer and such a project would seem to be well suited for the purpose of education. Initially, I was working in that direction. Finding the right letterforms was not a matter of choice (except for amongst the options of sketches I found) but of a 'double coincidence of wants'; I didn't have the freedom to be picky about topics amongst science. Concerns varied from Boyle's simple inverse proportionality of volume and pressure, to the working of a cyclotron. The levels of study therefore were too varied to make them fit for one target group. It wont make sense for a 8th grade student studying these set of letters, if only one of them can be understood. On the other hand, a college student who has his/her basics clear, studying about cyclotrons wont need these diagrams to simplify study, or make the subject that he/she is already immersed in, more friendly. The context that seemed better suited given all the above, was tribute to science. On its own, it worked well as just an experiment. The style would also have to fit the re-brief of the project; artwork to be used for a museum or a publication that deals with history of science.
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r e f e r e nc e s f or v i s ua l l a nguag e Fig.(Below) From Vesalius's De Humani Corporis Fabrica.
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ince the project was develop- expressive. It used an accent colour of ing towards a tribute to science, orange and includes use of typography looking at the history of scien- and ornaments. tific diagrams and the styles present The space between the two above across it seemed like a good source of mentioned, seemed fit for the set of visual reference. Vesalius's revolution- diagrams made for this project, given ary anatomical treatise, De Humani they are both, instructional and expresCorporis Fabrica, shows the dissected sive to a certain extent. body in really unusually animated stances. These detailed illustrations are perhaps the most famous illustrations in all of medical history. Distressed appearance and minimalist use of colours occur across almost all instructional diagrams, such as in patents. Patents required clarity and therefore used only lines, labelling and shading (only to suggest the third dimension). The 1568 illuminated diagrams of the Ptolemaic geocentric structure窶認igura dos Corpos Celestes' (Four Heavenly Bodies), by the Portuguese cartographer Bartolomeu Velbo, takes a step ahead and is not instructional but more
Fig.(Left) The Ptolemaic System illustrated by the cartographer Bartolomeu Velbo.
Fig.(Extreme Left) The Expression of Emotions in Man and Animals by Charles Darwin.
Fig.(Left) Old illustration of steam digester invented by French physicist Denis Papin.
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technique: stippling
hile I was researching, I gathered little from the process of generating list and looking up scientists' work, but more from documentaries and books that talked about personal stories and struggles of scientists. Descriptions of principles were not as engaging as the stories of power, proof and passion and how scientists came about the theories and principles attributed to them. My diagrams originated from these
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kind of stories more than those lists. It made sense to study styles of diagrams that one would find in the publications, patents and sketches of those scientist at the time of the invention/ discovery. I took up stippling, studied light and shadow and tried to achieve a distressed effect in the eventual drawings. Instead of simply recreating that effect, I tried to find a middle ground between the elaborate oldstyle and the modern style.
Fig.(Below) Stippling sheets
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Fig.(Above and Right) Close-ups of stippling sheets.
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colour A poster is meant to draw the attention of the public towards it. Addition of colour could possible liven up the illustration that had been monochromatic till now. The first trial included muted colours so as to suit the space the illustration was in. On seeing the results, I observed that it took away from the feeling of science that a simply stippled and digitally touched up illustration had manages to capture. In the second try I decided to add a bright and energetic shade of orange (much like in the illuminated illustration of the Ptolemaic geocentric sys-
tem, 'Figura dos Corpos Celestes') as an accent colour, highlighting the key component of the diagram. This feature also helped clarify what part of the diagram was being talked about in the texts supporting the diagram in the poster and added a slightly modern aesthetic to the old world charm of scientific diagrams.
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Stippled illustration of the diagram letter integration.
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A subtle suggestion of the period of the invention was indicated by mentioning the time frame and life span of the scientist.
Distressed treatment of illustration and addition of highlight colour.
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layer 3: This layer onwards, I would be putting extra layers of information not already established before in this document. The focus area of the illustration is the diagram. To make it more explanatory and suggest that what one sees in the poster/artwork is not just an expressive diagram but a working model, I labelled the diagram with its constituents. This feature visually accentuated the fact that the matter being dealt with was science, given how common labelled diagrams are in the field.
layer 4: I added title such as 'A for Archimedes and his invention of the Water-screw' to clarify all, the scientist responsible for the diagram, his/her initial and a description of the contraption illustrated. This layer was the most important as it defined everything else that the poster included.
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I incorporated a brief biography of the scientist and a section that concisely explained the workings of the diagram in the illustration, for anyone who'd be interested to know more and understand the diagram thoroughly.
layer 7 A small corner or footnote was used to describe project details such as student name, guide name, etc.
deas for setting layout began with the constraints that the artwork should be of primary importance,
with all supporting text taking a backseat. In such a case, a clean and simple layout would work the best. Fig.(Left) Layout trials
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Fig.(Right) Layout trials
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typeface decision Since the project was almost an ode to science, it would make sense in this case to use a typeface that is an ode to typography and has strong connections with the history of printing. The diagram that fell under the category of G was that of Gutenberg—the printing press. I already had skimmed through the brief history of typography and the name Nicolas Jenson came often. In 1458 Jenson went to study printing under Johannes Gutenberg. In 1470 he opened a printing shop in Venice, and, in the first work he produced, the printed roman lowercase letter took on the proportions, shapes, and arrangements that marked its transition from an imitation of handwriting to the style that has remained in use throughout subsequent centuries of printing. Jenson's highly legible and evenly coloured typeface, based upon Humanistic scripts, has been reinterpreted through the centuries by type designers. The one I chose to use was the most modern version of Jenson—Adobe Jenson Pro. Adobe Jenson Pro is an elegant typeface family that manages to capture the essence of Nicolas Jenson's roman and Ludovico degli Arrighi's italic typeface designs.
Fig.(Left) A specimen of Nicolas Jenson's archetypal roman typeface, from the "Laertis", published in Venice in 1475.
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layer 1 and 2: basic stippled diagram with subtle photoshop treatment.
layer 4: title which is divided into levels—scientist (highlighted in orange) and what the diagram is about. layer 4: lifetime of scientist.
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concept 1 To make framed posters a part of the interiors/experience of a school's common areas such as a library, or a science lab.
concept 2 Notebooks are purchased by everyone, regardless of age group or what they're studying. The poster on the front cover might arouse interest in the subject. A notebook stays with a student for a long time (till the pages are used up) and for a considerable duration in a day. The integration of a letterform and a form can trigger photographic memory. Our brains after reading and writing get accustomed to letters and recognize them easily, implying that we
remember their form well. The form of the letter can trigger associations to the diagram that was integrated in it, making the diagram easier to remember. For example, one may remember the letter B had two containers instead of the 'bowls'; one with a piston pushed in, and one with the piston pushed out changing the pressure and volume. B also stands for Boyle. And there you have it—Boyle's Law of Ideal Gases.
concept 3 A calendar is referred to often in a week and hangs on the wall to stay in front of one's eyes for a long time. Just as a map hung on a wall is seen everyday and helps absorb knowledge of geography slowly and steadily, so will a diagram hung as a part of a calendar. The target audience in this case is everyone in a family, not only the young ones.
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Fig.(Left) Concept two mock ups. These explain subtle intervention and usage opportunities in the field of education.
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reflections of what age group the users belong to, bringing everyone on the same plane. The project doesn't perform to a need that exists but an opportunity that is created. The project was a big opportunity for me to involve my interest in physhe final set of letters included ics and chemistry. It was like revisit23 stippled letters out of 26 ing theories and ideas I'd studied at alphabets. I chose 11 letters some point in school or elsewhere. One out of these based on which ones had of my biggest realizations during this the strongest concepts and were the project was how ingenious yet simple most visually stimulating. These illus- popular science concepts are and how trations were blown up and the lay- they've been presented to us in unnecout that came through packaged the essarily complex ways. I also had a newartwork. This way, the artworks could found respect for the scientist that I be used as standalones, were flexible hadn't paid much attention to as much enough to take other forms but could as I did the work of the scientist. also be introduced as posters at first go. The project use-case could fit well into the top most part in the pyramid of Maslow's hierarchy of needs since some of the characteristics of self-actualization are to enjoy simple experiences that continue to be a source of inspiration and pleasure. By tweaking the form of diagrams, something that has existed since the nascent stage of science, one's attention may be drawn towards the 'newness' of this kind of presentation of science and is bound to arouse interest. This fact remains true regardless
"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." —Henry Ford
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bibliography books The thirteen book of Euclid's elements by Thomas L. Heath Dover Publications, 1956 The Works of Archimedes by Sir Thomas Heath Dover Books on Mathematics, 2002 An intro to the history of mathematics by Howard Eves Saunders Series, 1990 Great experiments in Physics by Morris H. Shamos Dover Publications, 1987 The ten most beautiful experiments by George Johnson Vintage, 2009 100 diagrams that changed the world by Scott Christianson Plume publishers, 2012 The patent book: An illustrated guide and history for inventors, designers, and dreamers by James Gregory & Kevin Mulligan A & W Publishers, 1979 World book of great inventions by Jerome S. Meyer World Pub. Co., 1956 Scientists and inventors by Anthony Feldman & Peter Ford Aldus Books Ltd, 1979 The 100 Most Influential Inventors of All Time (The Britannica Guide to the World's Most Influential People) by Robert Curley Rosen Education Service, 2009 An Illustrated Timeline of Inventions and Inventors by Kremena T. Spengler Picture Window Books, 2011
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web & videos Repeating famous experiments & inventions http://www.juliantrubin.com/bigten/pathdiscovery.html The Baldwin Project http://www.mainlesson.com/display.php?author=bachman&book=inventor s&story=stephenson The science and art of diagrams http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2013/03/22/the-scienceand-art-of-the-diagrams-culturing-physics-and-mathematics-part-i/ Animated Engines http://www.animatedengines.com/newcomen.html Honoring the inventor http://honoringtheinventor.blogspot.in/ Inventor of the week http://web.mit.edu/invent/iow/i-archive-a.html Science and more http://www.youtube.com/user/scienceandmore?feature=watch Sci show http://www.youtube.com/user/scishow/videos Working telegraph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvqlsd3prW8 How television works, 1956 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcpTwjwgZpg
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acknowledgements Firstly, I would like to thank my guide, Rupesh Vyas for being as enthusiastic about this project as I was. The freedom he gave us during our Advanced Graphic design course was the driving force behind generating the original idea, which was a seed to this project. I would also like to thank Tarun Deep Girdher for the ten minute conversations that were enough to help me achieve clarity and start looking at this project in a new way every time. This project would be nothing without the services of the KMC. My thanks goes to everyone who has contributed till date to make it the rich resource that it is today. I can't even claim I hard bound this document because the amazing Hena, Shailendra and Sachin Bhai of printing labs at NID practically did for me, even when they had their own workload to deal with. My batchmates as well as my seniors had a large role to play in giving me feedback every time I needed it. Lastly, I'd like to thank my sister and mother for being the source of my happiness.
special thanks: Vanessa Horig, Aadarsh Rajan, Akshan Ish, Akash Halankar, Sanchit Sawaria, Pragun Agarwal, Isha Pimpalkhare, Sudeepti Tucker, Parashar Agravat, Aishwarya Ganeshan, Jyothi Iyer, Raghuvir Khare, Nikunj Patel, Varenya Raj, Manushi Parikh, Swati Shelar, Hrishikesh Kogje, Aashay Meshram and all my batchmates.
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A documentation of my 2nd elective done as a student of Graphic Design at the National Institute of Design, Ahmedabad.


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Diablo Range > Mount Diablo > Climber's Log
Mount Diablo Climber's Log
[ Sign the Climber's Log ]
Date Climbed: Mar 3, 2005
|been up and down this mountain more times than i care to remember. :-) by foot, on bike. primarily north side.
|Posted Dec 19, 2007 9:43 pm
|Drove to the top. Scrambled on Devils elbow.
|Posted Nov 30, 2007 8:12 pm
Date Climbed: Nov 12, 2007
|we passed weatherman...he was in slacks. haha. But really 'twas a long hike.
|Posted Nov 16, 2007 5:43 pm
|Back Creek Trail
Date Climbed: Nov 12, 2007
|Really enjoyed this route, as it offered a wide range of views, and wraps around the top of the mountain for views to the north then east, then south and finally west once up at the summit. Sierras were visible, as was the GG and Central Valley cities.
|Posted Nov 15, 2007 3:45 pm
|Leg Burner
Date Climbed: Nov 12, 2007
|Started at Mitchell Canyon TH at 8:20 with the fearsome 4. Crested Eagle Peak then proceeded to the summit, arrived at 10:50. Bunch of people on the summit oblivious to the fact that we hiked up from the very bottom. Left the summit at 11:20, and descended via the meridian Ridge Fire Road and connected with the Back Canyon creek trail and returned to the trailhead at 1:20. about 12 miles, was intense! Views were great.
|Posted Nov 12, 2007 7:24 pm
|Fun playground
|Great mtn to bike and run and even a very few nice routes to climb - Amazing Face of course is a must do. Our 'local hill' for a couple good years in Cali.
|Posted Oct 30, 2007 11:48 pm
|An epic
|Came here on a blustery rainy afternoon, but had a flat on the road up, so I changed the tire and descended to a tire shop to get a new one anyway, which put me off a couple hours. Came back late in the afternoon as the rainclouds came on. They said I could drive partway up, but the road was closed for the last mile or so, so I hiked a trail to the top. Turned out to be a great way to go. I had the summit entirely to myself (how many can say that for Diablo?), and it was kindof cool to be hiking the trails in cold misty dusk conditions. By the time I was back to my truck and descended off the mountain, it was dark.
|Posted Oct 24, 2007 10:22 am
Date Climbed: Oct 20, 2007
|Great views from the summit, easy access from san francisco.
|Posted Oct 20, 2007 11:58 pm
|Dangers Pop
|Mitchell Canyon
Date Climbed: Oct 7, 2007
|This has the makings of a good Winter training ground. Twin Peaks, Eagle Peak, North Peak and the summit of Mt Diablo. Beautiful calm, cloud free day. Only saw a few other hikers the entire time out. With a BART station just a few minutes from here I was expecting to see oodles of people. This hike is worth doing.
|Posted Oct 7, 2007 11:28 pm
|Great Bay Area Peak
Date Climbed: May 5, 2007
|I have hiked, ran, biked this mountain many times. The view from the summit is incredible, considering the relatively low elevation. I always find more people on the summit than on the trails. Go on a weekday.
|Posted Oct 2, 2007 11:35 pm
|My backyard
Date Climbed: Jul 19, 2007
|Nice dayhike
|Posted Aug 20, 2007 5:56 pm
|Great Place!
Date Climbed: Apr 7, 2007
|Been all over this Mountain. lots to offer for the Bay Area!
|Posted Apr 9, 2007 4:40 pm
|Climbed from the bottom
Date Climbed: Mar 24, 2007
|Pretty long climb at 3600ft including a couple descents. Very cool mountain though.
|Posted Apr 4, 2007 8:28 pm
|Mitchell Canyon, Eagle Trail, Deer Flat, Juniper Trail
Date Climbed: Jan 10, 2007
|Nice, somewhat steep climb to Eagle Peak then back down, then back up to reach Diablo. Made it to the summit just before the fog did. Beautiful day! Met Will & descended with him. Good times in Cali.
|Posted Jan 12, 2007 2:46 am
|Training Ground
|Good place to train. Been to the summit mucho mucho times and crawled all over this mountain. Each side has a different personality. Fun mountain.
|Posted Jan 6, 2007 10:34 pm
|Scott Fulton
|Mitchell Canyon Fireroad
Date Climbed: Dec 29, 2006
|This was a nice, chilly hike that took 4:45 from car to car. After getting to the top, I slowly jogged down with an adventure racer that I had met at the top. He is planning on attempting a speed record for a one-way traversal of the John Muir Trail this summer.
|Posted Dec 30, 2006 5:06 am
|Juniper Trail
Date Climbed: Nov 18, 2006
|Great day for a climb. Got a very un-alpine start at 12:30pm. Did the mile and half climb in 30 minutes and found a parking lot on top with the summit inside a building. Great views on all sides but a little hazy and foggy.
|Posted Nov 19, 2006 2:52 am
|Michael Perry
|Juniper Trail, Rock City with great views
Date Climbed: Nov 5, 2006
|Hiked the Juniper Trail from Diablo Vally Overlook to the summit and back, hiked over to Devil's Elbow, and then drove to Rock City later in the day. The view from the summit looking west was excellent. Could see Sutro Tower, Downtown SF, the Golden Gate, and Tamalpais. View east was limited due to valley fog.
|Posted Nov 6, 2006 5:33 am
|Peak Baguette
|Route: 4 Summits from Mitchell Cyn Date: 11.05.06
Date Climbed: Nov 5, 2006
|Spectacular views after this week's Bay Area rains - Four Summits is a wonderful hike, no crowds on trail.. but pretty crowded at the summit with the "drive-up" folks on the top of Diablo.
|Posted Nov 6, 2006 2:16 am
|Monte Diablo
|hiked mt. olympia, north peak, and Diablo from regency drive in and out, with nice lunch break at the summit on 6 hours.
|Posted Oct 18, 2006 7:19 pm


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G'day,A Mate of mine in the USA told me about an article that was published in Engine Masters entitled "Pressure Feed." He noted it was an how to article discussing how to drill the thrust bearing oil feed to provide additional oil flow and pressure to the thrust face. He told me it was in the Winter 2011 issue of Engine Masters. I ordered a copy and it arrived today. Unfortunatley there ain't no article entitled "Pressure Feed" in it nor anything close to it! Can anyone tell me the issue the article was in. Thanks,Rob "Caddy.500" M.Sydney, Australia
Rob have you tried contacing Engine Master's themselves. I have been the route your going. Someone told me about an article and I never found it. Boy you must have piad dearly for one magazine....Go to www.Chevyhighperformance.com its a more visited site. Explain your problem its always possible you'll jog someones thoughts. I can't help you sorry Mate.Bob AKA pepsi1


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text: I had a period of my life where I sold honey via the website - it was going to be an experiment for the logbook section on MARKETING your honey. I did really well and actually ran out of product quite quickly.I had:1/2 pint jars going for $4.95 Pint Jars going for $8.95Quart size $16.95Plus shipping (which frankly was as much as the product.) Now.... (with all humblenessity meant) I know these prices seemed outragious, but afterall, Beemaster's Honey was a BRAND NAME and had a relatively SMALL volume to sell. There was both supply and demand - the market place allowed me to name my price :)I sold mostly 1/2 pint and pint jars (decorative glass) and shipped via US Postal Service and sold a total of 11 gallons in 9 weeks via the website. I won't do the math here, but it was pretty darned impressive.My point being, you need to create a product base, make your honey something GREATER than "Honey" itself - and you can name your price. Labeling is a great inexpensive way to increase price - nothing beats a country looking homemade label on a jar of honey.Also, working with local road-side vegatable stands or farm markets can be a great source of sales. It THIS case a quality made sign over your products can greatly boost the price of every ounce you sell.The biggest thing you can do to increase sales though (in a roadside marketing site) is choice of product. Have different sized jars, cut-comb, and other products including candles (even if the candles are bought wholesale and added to your product line) no one says you are stuck with just your own products, although it is best to do so.Selling through the web though is tough. I got lucky only because of a good placement on the search engines. I set up an account with Paypal, so the money was always in the bank before I bothered jarring the product. Shipping was tough to get around, going plastic jars over glass jars HELPED cut cost to the consumer, but was NOT enough of a savings over using "Decorative Glass Jars" in my ads.Creating a product name the best single way to increase revenue and every penny per ounce counts. Quality is number one, because no matter how good the name, if you give people crap - you will never see them again.Thought I'd share this with everyone. I rarely speak of the days when I attempted to have commercial sales on my site - it was exciting, I did really really good, but it was NOT what I wanted to do. After all the honey was gone, I had a site that was STILL set up to go and I had to disable the sales page (meanwhile people were looking to order more honey - yes, I had several repeat customers who loved the decorative jars for gift giving) but once I ran out of honey, telling the customer that it would be 6 months before I had more honey JUST didn't cut it - so I closed up shop RATHER than go commercial.There was even a suggestion that I have "Beemaster's Premium Blend" a mix of quality New Jersey (The Garden State) finest honey - where a small amount of the "Blend" was mine and the rest from local beekeepers. The idea (suggested to me by a local grower sounded interesting, but I didn't wan't to mislead anyone into thinking it was a "SEASONAL MIX" of my own best honey flavors, which I think it would have done.And at that point where does it stop? Literally, one drop of Beemaster's honey to a quart of generic NJ Honey - ugh. So I never went with the PREMIUM BLEND idea.There is my tale. It was fun and for nearly three months I was making multiple trips to Staples for boxes and bubblewrap and to the post office to ship. But honey sales by mail is tough if only for the weight factor. Now.... only if you could sell FREEZE DRIED HONEY, hmmmmm there's an idea :shock:


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Roseville Crime Stoppers Offer Reward For Info on Murdered Teen
A $1,000 dollar reward is being offered for any information leading to the arrest of a suspect in the murder of a 19-year-old man whose body was found in a Roseville Park.
Roseville Crime Stoppers is offering up the reward in the mysterious death of 19-year-old John Alpert. His body was found in Dry Creek near Atkinson Street on May 15th by a fisherman.
Police said Alpert appeared to suffer blunt force trauma. His death was ruled a homicide.
Alpert lived in Palmdale in Southern California with his parents and attended community college there. On March 10th, he told them he was traveling north with some friends for an adventure traveling on freight trains.
On March 17, all communications between Alpert and his family stopped.
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It was in the middle of the night in the dead of winter when I awoke with a vision of myself in a small engineless boat in rough seas. Suddenly I was handed an oar by a faceless person. I put every ounce of my strength and energy into each swipe through water and wave. I paddled and paddled against the current, the skies stormy and dark, heavy clouds screaming their thunder in the black night.
And somehow, because it was a dream, or maybe a nightmare, or maybe a vision of these times we're living in, people kept appearing in my boat and each had a small paddle. And though the boat was small, there was always room for more souls onboard. Together, we rowed our way through the storms, through the rising seas, until somehow we came out on dry land and the dark clouds disappeared.
When I awoke from that dream, I knew it was significant. It was a metaphor for these turbulent economic times and I interpreted the row boat as a lifeboat of sorts that I was somehow intended to create and steer toward a safe harbor. The next day, I created the Hiller's Hometown First program, to promote local businesses and give my shoppers extra value when they do what they need to do: buy groceries to feed their families.
As with all good and true things, we started small. I launched this program in February with 10 restaurants on board. Today, there are nearly 100 various businesses and the list continues to grow.
I realized the merit of coming together in a community of sorts, of dedicated Michigan residents who live here, work here and all want to see our hometown thrive. The only way to build anything lasting and good is to do it one brick at a time so that the foundation won't collapse.
The Hiller's Michigan Initiative was a slow-growing awareness campaign to highlight all of the good things about our home state. Our circular front page became a newspaper proclaiming the many Michigan companies whose products we sell. I printed company name, number of employees and location so that every single one of us would focus not only on the price or flavor of a food, but rather how many jobs each company ensures for Michigan residents.
We indicated Michigan products throughout all of our seven stores with little shelf tags featuring a smiling mitten-state icon. And we hosted Michigan food fairs, where we filled stores with as many vendors as we could pack in, all presenting tastes of their locally-created, produced and disseminated products.
Every day, another idea blossomed like the first daffodils in spring. Because the clarion call of working together in the interest of building a stable community and rebuilding, if you will, was louder than any other noise, the background din of fear was reduced to a whisper.
I knew we could focus on how many jobs are being lost, how many houses foreclosed, how many empty shopping malls we drive past.
Or we could focus on the innate knowledge that things go in cycles, that this too shall pass, that there are many steps WE can take to help it go away sooner, rather than later.
I choose to remain optimistic. I'm a bloody realist though. I've never lived through a time like this. I never believed our core industry could crumble.
But the key to success is recognizing the times in which we live, embracing them even if they are studded with thorns, and evolving to meet the ever-changing needs of life-as-we-know-it.
Recently, one of my favorite local restaurateurs, Jim Lark, mentioned Hiller's in his monthly newsletter. It's unusual, first, that an elegant and refined restaurant with such an established local history would produce a monthly newsletter directed at the community. That's The Lark, and that's the signature of a creative and inspiring entrepreneur.
This West Bloomfield fine-fare mainstay devoted a page and a half to the Buy Local craze sweeping through our state. He began by commending Hiller's for our Michigan Initiative, "during all the years, through every glitch in the economy."
He mentioned our circulars and our in-store promotions and then went on to name so many fine products – Garden Fresh Salsa, Better Made Potato Chips, Kowalski sausages, Guernsey Dairy and others.
Jim and Mary Lark had a fortuitous vision in 1981 when they opened The Lark, after successful careers – he in law and building, she in art. They had a vision and a dream and they turned those into an experience for the rest of us to savor and which operates now solely by the hard work of their daughter Adrian.
The Larks and their restaurant exemplify what Michigan has always offered – taste, elegance, unusual ambience and vision beyond existing and familiar boundaries. We are not a small-potatoes place but rather a community with a vision and a desire to surmount any challenge.
Without talent and drive, without the willingness to not only take risks, but to lead the way toward exhilarating discovery, we would not be the city that drove the world for so many years. I know, any mention of the automotives today makes each of us cringe with exasperation and sadness.
But even as I drive my American car, I recognize that the company that built it would have benefited from thinking beyond life-as-it-was-known years back. We all would.
Hindsight is perfect, of course, and I have made my share of mistakes. What I've learned through these tumultuous years is that it's not too late, it's never too late for a new start.
Walk with me toward our collective salvation. Become a part of the Hiller's Hometown First and focus on rebuilding this place we call home. Bring your businesses and your neighbors on board so that our awareness can build and our economy can once again thrive.


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Repercussions of Rep. Todd Akin's "Legitimate Rape" Comment
A political controversy in Missouri has the potential to derail a state Senate race. On Sunday, Republican Representative Todd Akin said in an interview that "if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." Of course, Akin never mentioned the "doctors" with whom he consulted on this, and his gaffe became a top headline by Monday morning.
He's drawn the ire of both parties, casting doubt on whether he has any chance at all to bounce back from this controversy and have a chance in his November Senate race against his Democratic opponent Claire McCaskill. Despite GOP calls to withdraw from the race, Akin has vowed to stay in, saying he's not a "quitter."
The Washington Post reports that, on Monday, the National Republican Senatorial Committee pulled funding from the race in response to Akin's comments, saying he's now endangering the possibility of a Republican majority in the House. Jason Rosenbaum, political reporter for the St. Louis Beacon, has the latest out of Missouri.


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It's the time of year again when somehow ESPN believes John Kruk, Steve Phillips, and many other wannabe experts can tell you who should be on the MLB All-Star team. The other night I was trying to catch highlights of an Albert Pujols home run and Baseball Tonight was trying to push the meme of Tim Wakefield for the All Star Team just because he's made so many starts for the Red Sox over the years. Really, that's the qualification these days?
Well, I guess the Yankees better send over their petition to get Andy Pettitte on the team then, as well. Of course, the best players in each league will not all make it due to injury, pitching schedules, and the cockamamie one player from every team rule. Boy is that going to suck this year when they need a player from Washington. Anyway, here is who I am voting for and why (one item of note: I'm using stats through last Saturday).
As much as I want to vote for Mark Teixeira, and as much as I believe that by the end of the season, Teixeira will have put up the best numbers of all first basemen, it is very hard to argue with what Kevin Youkilis has done offensively and defensively. Plus, when it's time for reserves to come in, he can slide over to third for an inning or two. Or maybe I'm just saying it so that if there's late inning heroics, it increases the chances that Teixeira is involved? Nah. I truly think that given that we're supposed to use a half season or so of stats to choose who starts the game, Youkilis is the best choice.
Before I reveal my second base choice, how insane is it that Akinori Iwamura is listed as the second basemen for the Rays? He's out for the season and has been out since late May. MLB really needs to do something about that, as it's not fair to a guy like Ben Zobrist, who is playing out of his mind. But, going with who's on the ballot, Ian Kinsler is back to being the top 2B in baseball, thanks to a little concept called regression hitting Dustin Pedroia.
At shortstop, I'm going to go with Jason Bartlett, who has been a little more valuable than Marco Scutaro despite missing some time for injury. Plus, Marco Scutaro is having a major fluke of a first half.
At third base, there should be no questioning my choice of Evan Longoria. Even after missing time for injury, he has had a great first half to follow up on his great rookie campaign.
My catcher of choice is going to be the man that SI is hoping hits .400 and never tests positive for steroids: Joe Mauer. Can you believe that some people want to move this guy out from behind the plate? He brings a great bat, great glove, great arm and great ability to call games to his arsenal.
Finally, my three outfielders for the AL will be Ichiro Suzuki (who will make it even if he doesn't deserve it, thanks to Japan only having one notable player to vote for this year), Torii Hunter (man is he proving people wrong about his contract or what?), and Carl Crawford. Some honorable nods in the outfield go to Nelson Cruz, Curtis Granderson, and Adam Lind (however, they're not the top 3).
Looking back at this roster makes me realize just how scary good Tampa Bay's offense is, by the way. If only they could get their pitching in order…Okay, back on topic.
First base in the NL belongs to a guy who I am still fascinated to watch play, Albert Pujols. I don't even think you can argue for anyone else, given the numbers he's put up offensively. Plus, Pujols is no slouch with the glove, either.
Second base will go to one of the most valuable players on the defending World Series champions, Chase Utley. His closest competitor would be Freddy Sanchez, but Sanchez is left in the dust by the type of production that Utley gives.
Hanley Ramirez is far and away the best shortstop in the NL. It sure is fascinating to see the middle infield talent that Boston chose to trade away.
While David Wright will get the attention as the sexy choice due to his batting average (one that is a fluke, given how often he is striking out and how few HRs he's hitting), Ryan Zimmerman is my choice for third base. He's a pretty good hitter and a GREAT fielder. Mets fans always complain about Wright's defense and I got to see three games of Zimmerman's and Mets fans get to see 17 of it, and now I understand why they complain.
The only viable candidate for catcher in the NL should be Brian McCann. He's not quite as amazing as Joe Mauer, but he's very good overall. He's been the glue of the Atlanta offense this year.
Finally, in the outfield, I would choose Matt Kemp, Justin Upton and Raul Ibanez. Kemp has put up pretty good numbers, considering he's without Manny Ramirez in the Dodgers lineup, and Joe Torre has his crazy ideas for where fellow Dodgers OF Andre Ethier should be in the lineup. Kemp has really shined defensively, as well.
Justin Upton has followed up a decent 2008 with a much improved strikeout rate and more power. Additionally, he's been better on the basepaths. Ibanez is still having a crazy good season, even though he has cooled off a little as of late.
Ryan Braun just misses the cut, and I have a feeling if Carlos Beltran were healthy throughout all of this season, or could've gotten a few days off here and there (as opposed to playing every day thanks to injuries to Reyes and Delgado), then he could have put up the overall numbers to be well worthy of a spot, as well.
Well, now that I've revealed my ballot, I'd love to hear of some of yours. Surely, you can do better than ESPN, too.
Tags: Albert Pujols, Andy Pettitte, Ben Zobrist, Brian McCann, Carl Crawford, Dustin Pedroia, Evan Longoria, Ichiro Suzuki, Jason Bartlett, Joe Mauer, Justin Upton, Kevin Youkilis, Marco Scutaro, Mark Teixeira, Matt Kemp, MLB All-Star Game, Tim Wakefield
How can you ignore Jason Bay for the AL outfield?!?! This is an outrage!
I should've remembered that Boston LFs are usually hurt in fielding numbers by the Green Monster. Taking that into account, though, his fielding still is average at best and when you take into consideration his home park's effect on his numbers plus adjust for the fact that LF are not as valuable as say, CFs it's fair to say that Bay falls just short of the cut. He probably deserves to be in the 3 who just miss the cut.
Matt Weiters is already in the Hall of Fame, so he should be starting.
C- Joe Mauer
1B- Justin Morneau
2B- Aaron Hill
SS- Jason Bartlett
3B- Evan Longoria
OF- Ichiro, Carl Crawford, Jason Bay
C- Brian McCann
1B- Albert Pujols
2B- Chase Utley
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3B- Ryan Zimmerman
OF- Ryan Braun, Raul Ibanez, Justin Upton (though his .383 BABIP equals a regression).


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my UZI 9mm, traded three guns for it, and I'm happier with it than I was with the other three guns.
For me its either my 10/22, Ruger MK III or my SP101 22.
Tons of inexpensive plinking fun.
We take a at least one that we din not shoot last range day .22 LR pistol and one .22 rifle--everyone gets to shoot something new and different. The grand kids like to take and shoot their personal guns (all have received their own rifle at about age 11-12 from Papa). They like to shoot those as older than their Papa or even better, older. I have a couple of 80 + year old rifles that still are fun to shoot.
If it was not raining here, we would be at the range this afternoon. Good cheap shooting rimfire guns, kids, and the freedom to do so.
any of my 22's. soon getting a 17HMR that I expect to be a cheap date.
My Ruger SR22. I don't have any long guns...:frown:
I did forget to include in my earlier comment that my grand kids do like to shoot my Mossberg 500 Tacti Kool. I guess the looks and the recoil turns them on.
Ruger 10/22 with a 4 X Scope
Anything .22, and in no real particular order.....
Ruger MKIII22/45. Great indoors.
Any bolt action, tube fed .22 rifle. New or old. With a $100.00 scope they are more accurate than my eyes. Plus the ammo choices, short, long, long rifle.
My wife's choice......
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A Henry Golden Boy that I gave her for Christmas.
For bigger booms she also has a Draco that she likes to unload once in a while.
I have to agree that the Mosin Nagants are not a bad bang for the buck.
My AMD-65 (Hungarian AK variant with a very short barrel and big muzzle brake to make it legal. I paid $329 for it new before the 2008 election drove prices up. They could still be had for around $400 new in early 2011 after prices normalized a little between scares. For a short barrel AK, it's surprisingly accurate with the traditional iron AK sights on a short sight radius. I've recently added a quad rail fore-end and a reflex sight Santa brought be for Christmas. Ammo is still relatively inexpensive if you can find some, but I've purchased a bunch when prices were still very low. It's a hoot to shoot with that brake - a real flame-thrower with the short barrel. Of course, any .22 is still fun and cheap these days...
Here's a pic from the range yesterday when I was dialing in the optic:
My 700 Remmy, by far. Drive 1000 yards and set up the target, drive 1000 yards and shoot three rounds, drive 1000 yards and check the target, repeat.
My cheap dates are a Marlin 60 and a Ruger Single Six! My Wife's favorites are Stevens Favorite and her Ruger MK1. All are in 22LR. Both of her choices will shoot circles around my choices, But I just like them. DR
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We will have to play "guess Gavins new identity" now i suppose.
its intresting readin this is
what do you have to say for yourself then
i would say it seems safe to say he has vanished again.
Ill make the first "guess Gavins new identity"
In truth though, if the stories etc are true, and it seems they are, folk like this seriously do my head in and he should be shipped off to somwhere where people arent going to remember where they put him. And ps if you see this gavin using your invisiblity cloak that isnt quite, dont worry mate its nothing i wouldnt say to your face
guys...and espically Mr Rym...did you notice the guy from the introductions earlier (the so called gay one)who was banned used one of the pics off this thread in his post and also said had anyone seen "Gavin" ....some wind up/connection there i believe
please give me some real evidence of me rippin some one off and please leave my Ex out of this i dnt need this shit from anyone
anyone who wants my address can have it but i tell you just dnt turst what u read on the net i cant belive some people they need to just stop this yes i did have a bad past with driving cars well now i have got the chance to drive legally
surely you would still be on a driving ban though
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With all the "vote for Votto" and "get Cliff Lee" dicussions going on, there might not be much interest in this topic, but here are my questions for those needing something else to think about for a couple of minutes...
On the Cliff Lee thread, there is a link to a Joe Sheehan column where he tongue-in-cheek sees the future. He predicts the Reds get Cliff Lee and that there is a three way tie for first place in the AL Central.
I am old and remember the 1964 season when the Reds, Phillies, and Cardinals all went into the last game of the season with the possibilty of a three-way tie for first. When the Reds lost to the Phillies, the pieces were in place for the historic tie if the Cardinals lost their game to the Mets. It didn't happen because the Cards won their game and went on to the World Series.
Before that last game when there was possility of a three-way tie, someone (the commisioner?) came up with a round robin playoff formula. I do not remember how it was suppose to have been played out and can't find anything that explains the plan.
Does anyone remember?
Also, with today's divisional play and wild card team, there would be a lot of complications with a three-way tie.
Say the White Sox, Tigers, and Twins all finish with 85 wins and are tied for first in the Central. How would that be fairly played out?
Now, suppose the Rays are in second place in the AL East and tied with those three teams with 85 wins for first place for the wild card place in the playoffs. How should that be handled?
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I'm caught up on "Caprica," and while I didn't love it at first, it's really starting to grow on me with each subsequent episode. Still, I can't help but miss "Battlestar Galactica." Good little Willy Adama is a nice enough kid, but I want more time with Admiral William Adama...


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Premiere for Dear John and Amanda Seyfried's Boobies
Looking back would have thought the girl who clutched her tatas to tell the weather in Mean Girls would have a better career than Lindsey Lohan?
To thank the girls Amanda Seyfried brought them out to the Dear John premiere in Los Angeles last night, in a plunging Giorgio Armani dress. Is that a clear pillow protector I see holding her in there? Ah, the illusions of Hollywood.
Jenna Dewan must have known they were coming because she she almost upstages in a figure hugging dress sure to keep some of hubby, Channing Tatum's attention. Of course that doesn't seem to be an issue for the newlyweds. The movie features love letters between a soldier and his sweetheart and Tatum admits to writing some gushy stuff for Dewan. "I just write little notes and put them around the house, maybe not letters but little notes." Seyfried adds that Tatum was "the most fun co-star I've had in my life." Sigh, I guess he really is perfect.
So will this Nicholas Sparks film be the next Notebook or will it be a A Walk To Remember?


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Yering Station - Little Yering Chardonnay 2013Australian White Wine
Available 17th Jul 2017
Country of OriginAustralia
Producer Information
Key Information
- AppellationYarra Valley
- BrandYering Station
- RegionVictoria
Other Information
- Grape TypeChardonnay
- Type of closureScrew Cap
- Vintage2013
Great intensity on the nose with mineral notes, white nectarine and citrus flavours along with a creamy, nutty complexity.
Medium weight with clean citrus fruit supported by well integrated French oak and balanced acidity.
Pairs very well with scallop canape. Rich potato Rossini and also foie gras.
100% Chardonnay.
5 from Yering Station
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