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|This is a discussion on Are Double or Nothing SnG's worth it? within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; I have played a few of the $1.15 non turbos on stars and it seems like it would take quite a while to build up
Are Double or Nothing SnG's worth it?
I have played a few of the $1.15 non turbos on stars and it seems like it would take quite a while to build up a bankroll playing these.Even when I win 2/3 I still am behind because of rake. Anyone been playing these specifically to build their BR?
Fwiw, DONs is my primary game and there is decent upside. Also, learn to play the turbos.
playing any sit and go format where you are paying more then 10% rake is atrocious. I wouldn't touch it.
Double or nothings are a stable easy way to make money if you know what your doing, but it does take some adapting to and normal poker rules have to be broken.
for example if you have 3400 chips and someone shoves all in for 1950 when blinds are at say 200/400 and you have QQ and put them on a steal attempt, this is still a fold.
I assuming you start with 1500 chips there. your likely to be through anyway and jeopardizing most of your stack is not wise I would only call with AA there.
I once folded AK pre to a second in shove i had 2400 chips the guy shoved for 1100 2400 is still pretty safe and likely to get the money. if i had called and lost i would have only 1300 chips he had 44 it was 55% chance had I called I would of gone from been likely through to likely out. and if I had won the hand I would have gone from been very likely through to an almost certain through. so it was the right fold but amateur plays don't know this (proven by a guy with 2200 chips calling this with q9 off suit ). I turned $200 into $1000 with about 60 hours play doing $5.20 double or nothings on stars so I have a fair idea of double or nothing strategy.
There I was paying only 4% rake per sit and go I always multi tabled played 15 at a time. If i won 8 out of 15 thats only $2 profit due to the $8 payed in rake. but note if I had payed 5.50 i would have lost $2.50 assuming I only won 8 out of 15 of these.
now if the rake had been at 15% like yours is, winning 8 of 15 is now losing me $6.25. of course I had a better record then that and usually won between 9 out of every 15.
Thats a lot higher then most and maybe there was a bit of luck involved but I think things like folding that AK made the difference.
if your micro bank roll then do the $1.10s thats less rake and eventually move up to the $5.20s paying much less rake is important.
There is definitely money to be made from double or nothings like there is from almost all formats of poker but when the rake is to high there is rarely money to be made.
You have to learn double or nothing strat too as well it is very different from cash tables, tournament or sit and go poker.
I think I might write a strategy page on it for people here sometime.
In my experience these double up sit n gos are the easiest tournies to beat on a regular basis but you need to be able to fold best hand and wait to get paid. I quit playing them even though i was winning because it is a bastardization of the game. It just feels wrong to throw away best hands to finish 5th. I play on a small site (carbon) and when they first introduced them a few months back the strategy other players used was so bad it was hard to lose but after a few months more players caught on and they became a little harder to cash on.
I took a shot at the double or nothings a few months ago because I saw more than a few people playing 5-10 of them at a time. I thought it would be fairly easy based on that and the fact I would attempt to exploit those players. Nevertheless, I believe it came down to having to win 6 out of 10? just to break even. After playing a few at a time here or there I definitely had a few bad beats come my way and quit playing them all together. Having changed my successful 1-table gameplan into multiple tables didn't bode well, at least for the time being. I suppose even if you were just breaking even, which would never satisfy myself, at least at the micro stakes, high stakes might be, it would be worth the vps alone.
re: Poker & Are Double or Nothing SnG's worth it?
I am inclined to agree with the comments made thus far. They are slow to build, and can be chancey, and may not contribute to your bankroll in a speedy way. But a few are ok I guess as long as you can win more than 80% of them. Good luck.
thats 60% btw.
I suppose if your playing less tables at a time you would need to win a higher % for fast bank roll growth.
but for practicable purposes I will assume out of 100 sit and goes. now if we are playing the turbo double or nothings on stars lets say $5.20 level, then we need to attain a 10% ROI really or there abouts as this is what top professionals say a winning player should be making from standard sit and go single tables. so we would have staked $520 if we played 100 of these. therefore we would need to get back $572. in order to do that we would need to win 57.2% to of these.
If however your doing the non turbos which charge 8% rake you would be staking $540 and thus would need to get back $594. thus you would need to win 59.4% of these to achieve 10% roi.
these figures are not unrealistic and I generaly find I achieve close to 15% ROI on these. I believe its the lower rake that gives me the ROI boost. Well actually I don't just believe i know.
I've found that playing higher stake's SnG's in conjuntion with multi-tabling low limit game's is a good way to improve your bank roll. But I def agree with luke...the rake is ridiculous if you're only playing for a few measly dollars.
all forms of poker are, assuming the rake isn't too large you can make a decent profit and boost your bank roll provided you are playing better then your competition. The only exception I would say are Multi table tournaments as these you can make huge dividends from but it is not uncommon for even the best to go through hundreds before they get the big cash. I have a friend who has won $32000 from mtts but he tells me has lost $3000 on the trot before suddenly cashing for $7000.
sit and goes cash etc yeah all good if you know what your doing just depends what you decide you want to adapt to.
re: Poker & Are Double or Nothing SnG's worth it?
I've been using the DON sit n gos on cake as a way to build a bankroll and give me the opportunity to play at higher stakes with lower risk. I have been playing them in sort of a steps format. This is my plan:
$2.20 win $4 end roll=4.00
$3.30 win $6 end roll=6.70
$5.35 win $10 end roll=11.35
$10.70 win $20 end roll=20.65
$16.00 win $30 end roll=34.65
$26.75 win $50 end roll=57.90
Sometimes I have played on to the $35.25 buy in just because it happens to be a 6 man game and I find those even easier to cash in. I have built my bankroll from $10 initial to $274 now. It's been almost a week. Note that I've had 2 days where I lost 3 games in a row, and I saw that as time to quit for the day to minimize my loss.
It is not really worth it if your playing for a dollar playing higher stakes makes a higher reward. Its a good way to build your bankroll if you play it right. There are a lot of players who play it for all the chips puhing all in on lots of hands just let them take people out. I have also seen people who fold every hand I always raise their blind.
I play on UB, Bodog, and cake most of the time and haven't fond any double up SnG's there. Who's got 'em. Sounds like a grea way to add to my bankroll. I play a lot of SnG's and place about 40% of the time (yes really). I'm having some issues at poker stars rite now because of someone else with very similar profile having screwed up and cannot deposit there, soo if they are only site that has thewe i'm SOL.
Stars has them for sure. I think cake has them. Bodog has something similar to don's but there a little different. FT does not have them and haven't seem them at UB.
double or nothing are atrocious what would be the difference be between those 10 man double or nothing and HU ???
Both are really just a waste of time.
Get more value and play satties where 1/4 wins. Like the 26.00 to the 109 or blt satties on tilt and sont forget the 6.50 mtt to 26.00 token these are all very easy to cash if you play uber tight.
Let me work these out for anyone 5.00 + 50p
5.50 x 10times = £55
so if you win 5 times out of 10 (50%) that would be £50 so you would be £5 down
So anything else would be PROFIT
AND IF YOU GET 35% rakeback 35% of 50p is 17p right
so your rakeback would be 1.70.
all makes sence now. its written down
Play Tighter Than Normal
I still consider this to be "THE" very best way to increase, with less risk, your bankroll.
Think about this: You're playing in a Turbo Double or Nothing Sit n Go on PokerStars. 10 players will start with 5 of them doubling-up and 5 getting nothing. Example, you buy-in with $10 and when you place at least 1-5, you will be paid $20 (Double up). However, if you place 6-10, you get nothing! The starting stacks are 1,500 and relatively quick structure, the blinds are increasing rather fast (turbo).
What's your overall Sit N Go strategy here?
A) Play way tighter than normal.
B) Play normal tournament poker.
C) Play looser than everybody else, after all, the blinds are in turbo mode so you must double up fast and have a lot of chips to survive
Correct answer is A
5 players will WIN, and it doesn't matter if you're first or fifth. The prize is the same, so if you finish first, you've probably done something wrong or been extremely lucky.
In other words: 10 from the starting line, 5 to the finish line, 1,500 in starting chips - this all means that the In The Money (ITM) average stack will be about 750.
Understand this: If the average is 750, the last ITM stack could be 400 500. In other words, doubling up once is enough to have an ITM chance. And, if you double up twice, you'll surely qualify. So there's no reason whatsoever to go to war in the pots without really good cards, and you won't gain anything by winning small pots early on either.
Bottom-line: Play extremely tight in the beginning, hope for a high pair and a double-up. If you don't get any good opportunities, maybe you should try desperately to "double up" later, but give the deck a chance first.
Remember, often times with only one "double-up", you can actually "sit out" your way to a win. Patience and discipline are key!
A Turbo DON Game normally takes about 25 - 35 minutes with you playing about 6 -8 hands. You should be winning a min of 7 out of 10 games...easiest SnG available.
My best to you, Wally
re: Poker & Are Double or Nothing SnG's worth it?
I've built bankrolls playing the sit'ngos, however, it does require you to play a diifferent strategy than you would typically play. A good deal, however, if you're patient and willing to fold good cards and avoid pre-flop all-ins.
PS: next one, 'll send you a copy of stats if I can copy and paste.
Both of these strayed a slightly from last nights DONs, but still really close to the 25 to 35 minutes and 6 to 8 hands. Anyways, these are simply a guideline measurement ...actually, I have had as little as 20 minutes and 5 hands played. GL mate, Wally
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re: Poker & Are Double or Nothing SnG's worth it?
I don't know where you get a sample size of 2 (guess you only count tonights 2 games). Obviously I played 2 last night since I mentioned that earlier and obviously too I have played many more than four since I wrote a post based on something.
I must admit I have NOT played 500 games of DON (and I doubt you have neither nor likely anybody else we know).
I have not recorded how many games of DON I have actually played, but I probably have played maybe 50 to 60 and I do average around 80 to 85 % ITM ... mostly at the $10 buy-in.
I wrote the post on this thread in order to maybe assist others with their play of the DON since I find it to be one of the easier and less risky ways to add to ones bankroll.
I agree that a population sample of only 50 to 60 DON tournaments may not be as adequate as one of 500, but that is what it is...take it or leave it. I certainly did not intend to get into a pi**ing contest with you or anyone. I was simply attempting to contribute to this thread.
BTW, do you still play these DONs on PokerStars? If you play on FullTilt, is there a "similar" type tournament and if so, what is it called? When you play the DON, what is your strategy to get the 70% ITM and how many hands do you average and how long is the average game? I would think your average game "time" would have to be consistent with mine as long as you are also playing the $10 Turbo DON. Maybe we will be lucky enough to be on the same table sometime in the future.
My best to you, Wally


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R v Holderness BC, Ex p James Robert Developments Ltd; CA (Dillon, Butler-Sloss, Simon Brown LJJ); 4 Dec 1992.
On an appeal against costs in form but in substance against a refusal to grant judicial review of a decision of a local authority planning committee on the ground of bias, the court (Simon Brown LJ dissenting) held that the appeal had been properly brought to determine the issue of costs even though the substantive issue had become academic.
On the substantive issue, the court (Dillon LJ dissenting) held that the membership of a local builder on the planning committee hearing applications for planning permission from other builders in the area did not give rise inevitably to an appearance of bias.
John McDonald QC and Richard Newbury (Stamp Jackson & Procter, Hull) for the applicant; David Gerrey (borough solicitor) for the council.
Pearson v Kent County Council; CA (Balcombe, Mann, Leggatt LJJ); 18 Nov 1992.
In computing for redundancy purposes the period of continuous employment of an employee who had been absent from work for a period of time, it was necessary under para 9(1)(a) of Sch 13 to the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978 for there to be a causal connection between the employee's sickness or injury and his absence.
Laura Cox (Bruce Piper & Co) for the appellant; Evan Ashfield (council solicitor) for the council.
R v Inspector of Taxes, Ex p Bass Holdings Ltd; QBD (Popplewell J); 4 Dec 1992.
An agreement made between a taxpayer and the Revenue under an assessment was susceptible to rectification by the court if the agreement did not reflect the common intention of the parties. Such an agreement was 'final and conclusive' of the issues which it determined, but if its terms or the intention of the parties was challenged, the ordinary rules governing the formation of a contract applied.
David Goldberg QC and John Walter (Linklaters & Paines) for the taxpayer; Alan Moses QC and Launcelot Henderson (Inland Revenue Solicitor) for the Crown.
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Customs & Excise Commissioners v Bass plc; QBD (Popplewell J); 4 Dec 1992.
VAT was payable in respect of a 'no show' charge made by a hotel if a customer failed to turn up, having made a reservation guaranteeing accommodation if he arrived after 6pm. There was a supply of services consisting of the guaranteed availability of a room whether it was occupied or not.
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The eight-year run from the law by former Cornbread Mafia leader John Robert "Johnny" Boone has been put to an end.
According to the U.S. Marshals Service, law enforcement officials captured Boone in a small town outside of Montreal, Canada, on Dec. 22. He's facing U.S. federal drug charges.
"This arrest was a result of investigative efforts by the U.S. Marshals Service in the Western District of Kentucky and Canadian Law Enforcement Officials," the marshal service said.
A tough season continued down that path for the Washington County Commanderettes last week as they hosted a pair of district opponents.
Nelson County visited the Commanderettes last Tuesday, handing the ladies a 69-23 loss.
Madison Snellen led Washington County with eight points, followed by Lucky Burton with five and Kailey Thompson with four.
Friday night brought the Bethlehem Banshees to visit. Although the Commanderettes got a better offensive output, the result was a 59-41 loss.
If you attended the Washington County Commanders' two district games last week against Nelson County and Bethlehem, it's understandable that your fingernails might be chewed down a bit. Coach Bernard Smalley and his boys played a pair of nailbiters, coming out on the short end in both.
Tuesday night, Nelson County visited the WCHS gym, and the game was nip and tuck from the opening tip.
The teams played to a 14-14 tie after the first period, with all of Washington County's points coming from senior guard DT Yocum.
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The U.S. District Court has given approval to sell two parcels of property near the St. Catharine College's main campus. Property at 3161 Bardstown Road, which consists of a 3-bedroom, 2-bathroom home is to be sold for $114,000 and a 2-bedroom 2-bathroom home at 2670 Bardstown road is to be sold for $115,000 according to the Court Order dated Dec. 16.
A Washington County native will be hitting the big stage this January to perform in the third annual "Concert with the Stars."
According to Lyndy Franklin Smith, the artistic director of the Lexington Theatre Company, Aaron Robinson will join four other college students on the big stage to perform with Broadway stars.
"Our mission is to combine today's Broadway stars with tomorrow's Broadway hopefuls to create fabulous professional theatre for Central Kentucky," Franklin Smith said.
After more than 30 minutes of discussion, the Washington County Fiscal Court voted to move the county's recycling center from its current location to the old road department building on Walnut Street.
The 4-1 roll call vote to move the center comes after the county spent several months looking into ways to save money while still providing a recycling program.
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Lena Bramblett and her Washington County Commanderettes must feel like they have been riding a roller coaster into the 2016-17 basketball season. The team has seen its share of ups and downs after winning two games last week, then most recently dropping three straight.
Garrard County came to town last Tuesday, Dec. 6, and handed the ladies a 64-28 loss in their home opener. The Lady Lions jumped out to a quick 16-0 lead after the first quarter and never looked back.
Baby, it's cold outside, but things are heating up for the Washington County Commanders.
The boys' basketball team has started the season with a 4-1 record, which is the best start the team has had since the 2004-05 campaign.
Did head coach Bernard Smalley see that as a possibility coming into the season?
When the hour hand strikes 4 p.m., children line up single-file into Jane Kephart's classroom to learn a language that no one technically speaks.
At least not with their voice.
Kephart, a kindergarten and first-grade teacher at North Washington Elementary School, is teaching an after-school program that focuses on American Sign Language, which allows the deaf to communicate with others.
She said she began studying sign language when she was studying to become a teacher.
A doublewide trailer located off KY 555 was destroyed by fire last week.
According to Willisburg Fire Chief Jessie Carney, the fire broke out in the early morning hours on Dec. 7.
"By the time we got there, it was pretty well destroyed," Carney said.
He said the trailer, which was owned by Albert Peters, was located at 11718 KY 555, in Willisburg. No injuries were reported.
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Our first major performer announcement of the year!! We are thrilled to welcome back veteran Sidewalk Days performers, The Tilted Kilts! They will be performing Friday, July 7th at 6:30 on the Grant Hall stage!
This is what you can look for Friday, June 17th!
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12:45 Jamie the Magician
1:30 Ethan B
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3:30 Link Union
5:00 Tilted Kilts
6:30 Uncoolas
8:00 Bromantics
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2:00 Prince Arthur
4:00 Samoan Dancers
4:30 Tyler, musician
5:00 Dance Images by BJ
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6:30 Tyler, musician
7:00 Dance Images by BJ
You can see Saturday's list on the "Entertainment" page!
Are you excited or what??! Here is everything you need to know about the first day of Sidewalk Days, Thursday June 16th!
*The Scotiabank Songwriter Showcase will go from 1:00pm - 4:00pm at the Grant Hall Stage. Special thank you to Golden West Radio's Nick Myers, Brandon Hall & Teagan Witco and Nebulus Entertainment's Jared Robinson for helping with this exciting feature!
*The John's Music Stage Schedule for Thursday is:
1:00 Alone I Walk
2:15 Ethan
3:15 A-Praize
4:15 Kendal
5:00 Justin LaBrash
6:15 Henry's Rebels
7:30 The Lost Boys Club
*The Deja Vu Moose Jaw Kid's Chill Tent Schedule for Thursday is:
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5:00 Dance Images by BJ
6:00 Penny Buhr-Johnson, singer
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As well, Fun Matters Moose Jaw will be there with SweetPea the clown!
*The Grant Hall Stage kicks off it's regular schedule with:
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6:15 Blind Eye
8:00 Trick Ryder
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The final details are being arranged, after more than 8 months of planning!
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Next year's Sidewalk Days Festival will be held June 16, 17 & 18, 2016!
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Can a Rehabilitation Program Reform Sex Offenders in South Australia ?
Broadcast: 23/07/2004
Reporter: Rebecca Morse
IAN HENSCHKE: Well, when we DO arrest sex offenders, do we do enough to rehabilitate them?
It's been at the centre of the very public spat between the Parole Board and the Government this week.
But behind the scenes, an international specialist on sex offending is training a new rehabilitation unit which will try to reform some of society's most dangerous criminals.
Rebecca Morse with this report.
WENDY UTTING, CHILD PROTECTION WATCHDOG: It's a huge amount of damage to do to somebody for such a short thrill for somebody else -- when you've got 50-year-old men who still sleep with the light on because they're afraid to go to sleep in their own bedrooms for something that's happened when they were five.
REBECCA MORSE: Paedophiles, rapists, sex offenders -- most say lock them up and throw away the key.
It's a common belief many can never be reformed, but one of the world's leading experts in sex crime is in Adelaide to do just that.
BILL MARSHALL, PSYCHOLOGIST: The evidence tells us very clearly that it does work, and not only does it work, but the effectiveness of it, of course, reduces the number of innocent women and children that suffer at the hands of these men.
REBECCA MORSE: Born in Australia, psychologist Bill Marshall developed some of the world's first sex offender treatment programs in Canada in 1973.
He's the man the Pope called when he wanted to clean up the Church, flying him to Rome to advise on how to deal with sex abuse among the clergy.
From the Vatican to Yatala -- Bill Marshall's latest project is helping SA's convicted sex offenders.
He's training the team which will drive the State Government's new $6 million rehabilitation program.
The course aims to address what motivates the behaviour and equip the offenders for their return to society.
BILL MARSHALL, PSYCHOLOGIST: The first step in the process is to get these men to take responsibility for their behaviour and come to fully accept the harm that they've done to innocent people.
REBECCA MORSE: 12 sex offenders will participate in a pilot program starting next month.
There'll be another one for violent offenders.
The Acting CEO of the Department of Correctional Services is Greg Weir.
GREG WEIR, CORRECTIONAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT: The evidence does show that well implemented programs that are properly evaluated can reduce the re-offending of sex offenders in the order of 30 per cent to 50 per cent.
REBECCA MORSE: But that means at least half can't be cured -- an alarming figure according to child protection advocate Wendy Utting.
WENDY UTTING, CHILD PROTECTION WATCHDOG: What do we do with these people?
We keep them away from children at whatever cost.
If it means incarcerating them forever, then so be it.
If they've proven themselves more than once, and this is my view, don't allow them to be back out amongst children again.
REBECCA MORSE: So we should lock them up and throw away the key?
WENDY UTTING, CHILD PROTECTION WATCHDOG: That's my view.
BILL MARSHALL, PSYCHOLOGIST: The fact of the matter is we're not going to lock them up and throw away the key.
They all get determinate sentences.
Sooner or later they get released, and if they're back in the community, what we need to do is put whatever resources and whatever procedures are necessary to minimise the possibility that they will hurt innocent children and women again.
REBECCA MORSE: The prison treatment will be voluntary, but a significant carrot is being dangled.
GREG WEIR, CORRECTIONAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT: Obviously if they enter into the programs and embrace them fully, then clearly the Parole Board would probably take that into account when looking at the conditions for release.
REBECCA MORSE: Dr Marshall says most want to participate.
BILL MARSHALL, PSYCHOLOGIST: The life of a sex offender is not a pleasant one.
They have to lie a lot of the time, they have to manipulate people, they have hanging over their heads the fact that they're bound to get caught sooner or later if they keep doing this, so it's a pretty costly lifestyle really, and they understand that very well.
REBECCA MORSE: The new rehabilitation program is unlikely to heal the deepening rift between the Parole Board and the State Government.
This week bitter words were exchanged when Parole Board deputy Philip Scales announced he would quit at the end of the year, frustrated by the Rann Government.
PHILIP SCALES, OUTGOING PAROLE BOARD DEPUTY: It has a policy of being tough on crime but that is really not the answer to reducing crime.
MIKE RANN, PREMIER: We're sticking to our policies and if people on the Parole Board resign because they think our policies are too tough, then we'll replace them with someone tougher.
REBECCA MORSE: The tough-talking Rann Government has been clashing with the Parole Board since it came to office, consistently rejecting its advice to release three murderers.
Yesterday it knocked two of them back again, further damaging its relationship with outspoken Parole Board chief Frances Nelson.
She says the Government's still not doing enough to stop prisoners re-offending on their release.
For the community it's a debate where the stakes couldn't be higher.
WENDY UTTING, CHILD PROTECTION WATCHDOG: These people come out one day -- they have to come out one day -- and they'll be out amongst the children again.


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I sidestepped the large decorative pot plant at the bottom of the stairs and made my way to the kitchen. Glancing around, I opened the fridge and grabbed the huge jar of Nutella. Kicking the fridge door to a violent close, I swivelled around to take the loaf of bread off the bench and seated myself down. Slicing myself a generous hunk, I proceeded to drown the piece of white bread in the hazelnut spread. I leant back on the meticulously upholstered chair and put my feet up on the edge of the mahogany table.
"Hello everyone, I'm back!" said the ever so joyful voice of Tori Austins, Julian's twin sister.
I hastily pulled my feet off the table and shoved the rest of the bread into my mouth. Whatever happened, I did NOT want to have to talk to this pathetic version of a girl. Dumping my plate and knife into the dishwasher, I got ready to sprint out of the kitchen and up the stairs when Tori would get out of the hallway to put away her jacket. Three... two... one... run!
"Jacksie! How nice to see you!" said the voice of Tori Austins as I was halfway up the stairs. Damn.
"Tori. Uh... nice to see you too," I mumbled, backing myself slowly up the stairs, "Umm, I need to go up now to umm, take a shower."
"Ok Jacksie! Don't forget to hang the towels up neatly and put your clothes in the right basket!" she said as I rounded the corner on the landing.
I may seem quite cruel for wanting to run away from this girl, and let's face it, to the average person who didn't know her she could seem pretty nice. But having lived in the Austins twins' house for the past two months, she had driven me insane from her neat freak habit. Not to mention her overly enthusiastic attitude and the annoying way she shortened my name to Jacksie. No one had called me that since I was six for God's sake!
There had been a million rules given to me and Riley when we first entered this place. Stupid things such as:
- Don't move Tori's favourite pillow from her chair.
- Hang up the towel in a particular way that required ten minutes of me fumbling around with the bloody piece of fabric.
- Do not slouch under any circumstances
- Put dirty clothes neatly folded into separate baskets. This may not seem bad at first, but there are a gazillion baskets for every kind of clothes imaginable!
- Do not ever complain about having to live in a peach and pink room with matching duvets.
- So on and so forth...
As I kicked opened the door to my room, I silently swore at Tori and her ridiculous neat freak habits. And at her stupid obsession with keeping the house as though it's a Disney princess's castle. Plunking down on my bed, I plugged my headphones into my ears and cranked the volume of my iPod on maximum. Closing my eyes, I tried to lose myself in the hard beats of rock music. Suddenly someone yanked the headphones out of my ears. I sat up in surprise.
"Geez Jackson, why do you have to listen to it so loudly!" complained Riley as she sat down on my bed, her fingers twining the cord of my headphones, "But I must admit you have good taste."
"What are you doing here?" I asked, my voice slightly annoyed. I hadn't had the best day and right then I didn't want to see anyone, "Why aren't you downstairs fawning after Tori like how you fawn over her brother every time he walks by?"
"Oh shut up Jackson. You know perfectly well how much I hate this girly-girly situation," said Riley, "Now, Julian had told me that we're going out for dinner tonight. You better get dressed than, Mr Scruffy."
"Are you sure he extended the invitation to me?" I asked, my eyes mocking, "Last time I checked he hated my guts."
"Oh come on, he's just not great at showing affection," she defended that little bastard.
"So tell me how he has no problem putting his arm around your waist?" I retorted.
She looked away from me, and the silence between us stretched for so long that I thought she had given up on answering me.
"We used to be best friends, you know," she said, he voice quiet, "Am I not allowed to be close to my best friend either, Jackson Barker? Why are you so possessive?"
"Possessive? Riley Jones, you and me, we're nothing to each other. Why would I be jealous and possessive?" I told her.
"Nothing? What happened to you confessing your love to me?" she snapped at me, her blue eyes fierce.
"Can you please leave? I need to get changed for the restaurant," I changed the conversation topic, not wanting to continue on an argument that I would surely lose.
"Fine, I'll see you in the car," she said as she walked out of my room.
As the door slammed behind her back, I swore out loud. Bloody Julian Austins. He was the one who did this. HE was the one who had separated me and Riley.


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As a reminder, our individual school web pages will continue to link back to School Fusion (hosted at this site) until the start of the new school year when all school-related pages will make the transition to our new web platform.
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Jordan tapped his pencil on his sketchpad, a buzz of anticipation he didn't understand bugging him. He had wasted hours drawing things, patterns that looked like they belonged in an episode of 'supernatural'. Everytime he completed one sketch, he felt that weird pull grow. Maybe crazy runs in the family afterall. He dumped the sketchpad on his bed along with his pencils and went down the stairs. He heard Muriel humming to herself in the living room. The sound of cardboard shuffling telling Jordan she was unpacking more new stuff. He grabbed his jacket and headed for the door. It opened just as he reached for the handle.
"Going somewhere?" Alivia asked, strolling past him, dumping her bag in the hallway as she did.
"I've been stuck inside all day, going a bit stir crazy," he shrugged.
"I'm pretty sure the doctor said something about taking it easy and relaxing," she replied. Jordan rolled his eyes at her words. She grabbed his arm and led him back to the living room. He considered fighting back, but knew it'd be pointless when Alivia looked that determined.
"Jordan tried to sneak out," Alivia announced. Muriel looked up, brushing thin, greying wisps of hair behind her ear as she did.
"Well that's just silly," Muriel commented, sending a small smile to Jordan.
"I'm bored," he said. "And isn't fresh air meant to be good for you?" he added. "Also," he said, holding up a hand before Alivia could object. "I want to actually celebrate my birthday." Muriel sighed, exchanging a look with Alivia.
"The party," Alivia said, turning to face Jordan with a big grin. "It can be for both of us."
"Seriously? Spending my birthday with Martin? I'll pass," he replied. He looked away from Alivia and back at Muriel. "What about the gallery?" he asked. Muriel sighed again, closing her eyes.
"I forgot about that," she murmured. When she opened her eyes it was with an apologetic look. "You know I'd take you. But with all of this," she said. Gesturing to the mess of cardboard boxes and packaging material strewn on the floor. "I can't really leave the house."
"Which is fine. I can go to the exhibition on my own," Jordan said.
"No, you can't," Alivia said. The sharpness of the words making it sound like a demand. But the look in her eyes was the sort of worry Jordan had never seen before.
"I feel fine. No headache or dizziness," he pointed out.
"I think it's better you not be alone Jordan," Muriel said. "Plus the party might be good for you." Jordan blinked. Muriel had never been the sort of mum you could walk all over. But she usually accepted Jordan's need to avoid all the social crap Alivia got involved in.
"I'll be upstairs getting ready. I'll also give Martin a call. Let him know you're coming as well," Alivia said. Jordan felt his jaw clench, wanting to say he wouldn't go. But he couldn't spend his birthday inside gaming. It hurt his head too quickly courtesy of whoever broke in.
"You can meet Kaiden, nice new guy, potential friend for you," Alivia threw in before disappearing. Jordan rolled his eyes. Great, now she's trying to make friends for me.


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Porsche 911 GT3 RS to Make North American Debut
The purist's variant of the a model particularly well-suited for track outings will go on sale in time for spring 2007, according to a Porsche news release.
Not since the 1973 911 Carrera RS has such a production Porsche been available in this market, the company said. The Carrera RS was a special, lightweight 911 produced to homologate the vehicle for racing. That tradition continues with the new 911 GT3 RS, which is modified to serve as the homologation model for a range of worldwide racing series.
The modifications made to the 911 GT3 RS begin with the bodywork. Compared to the GT3, the rear of the RS is 44mm wider, as it is based on the fuller-bodied 911 Carrera 4 models. The muscular-looking rear end conceals a wider track that not only improves directional stability, but also increases the potential for lateral grip on this two-seat coupe.
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The lockout is wearing on a few people, but that doesn't stop the talk of what will happen when -- and if -- free agency starts. Several of you have questions about what the Cowboys would do. In our latest installment of the Cowboys mailbag, we answer some of those questions.
Q: What do you think the chances are of the Cowboys going after a NG like Aubrayo Franklin? I love [Jay] Ratliff but feel that he is a better fit at defensive end and better there than any potential free agent defensive ends. Is [Rob] Ryan going to push for a bigger, more traditional nose tackle? -- Jamie (Omaha, Neb.)
A: Jamie, Jay Ratliff is staying at nose tackle. Ryan said he likes where Ratliff is on the defensive line, and the goal is to get either Jason Hatcher or Stephen Bowen ready to start at end. Ratliff, while undersized, is quick off the ball and able to make plays behind the line of scrimmage on a regular basis. One of the best moves Ratliff made was against the Indianapolis Colts last year. He beat the center on two plays and almost tackled Peyton Manning before he handed the ball off. Ratliff draws a lot of double-coverage, and when that happens, it should open the way for the inside linebackers or the defensive ends to make some plays. It doesn't always happen, but Ratliff is better suited to play nose, for now.
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A: This wasn't a deep safety draft class, and the Cowboys were content to look in free agency for one. Manning is a possibility, as is Michael Huff, but when it comes to corner, I'm thinking the Cowboys stay put. Terence Newman and Mike Jenkins will remain the starters, and Orlando Scandrick is the slot corner. The team has some young backups who will play special teams. If the Cowboys go after Asomugha, it's only because there won't be a salary cap, and then I could see the team purging highly priced vets.
Q: Will Tyron Smith make huge changes on the offensive line? -- Jesse (Potomac, Md.)
A: Yes, he will. Smith is the projected starter at right tackle, and there's a chance he could see some time on the left side during training camp. With Smith coming to the roster, Marc Colombo could be sent packing. Colombo said he wants to fight for his gig, and that's good to hear. But health and age should tell the Cowboys it's time to move on. Sam Young is a possibility to play the swing tackle spot Alex Barron had but failed at last year.
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Q: Is Tony Romo 100 percent going into this next season, assuming we have a season to go into? If so, any updates on Romo's thoughts on the Cowboys draft? Excitement? Anything on Romo at all. We need him to have a phenomenal year for the Cowboys to even have a chance. -- Michael Russo (Manahawkin, N.J.)
A: Tony Romo is 100 percent healthy. He's throwing footballs and moving around. It was hard to evaluate Romo last season because his campaign was cut short. His best game was against the Houston Texans in Week 3. Romo is still a good quarterback, one of the top 10 in the NFL, but this is a major year for him in his development. He's won a playoff game, and now it's time to see whether he can move his team to another level -- and that's the NFC title game or Super Bowl.
Q: Dear Calvin, do you think they drafted another receiver to take the place of Patrick Crayton? Also, do you think that since they have DeMarco Murray now, that is the exit for Marion Barber? -- Daniel W. Ciccarone (Eagleville, Pa.)
A: The Cowboys replaced Crayton when they drafted Dez Bryant last year. With Miles Austin, Roy Williams and Bryant, the Cowboys have a pretty good group of receivers. Going forward, Sam Hurd might not be in the fold, and it seems as if Kevin Ogletree will be given every chance to get more playing time along with the new draft pick.
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Ronni Kern is an American film and television writer and producer.[1]
Kern is best known for writing such films as American Pop[2] and A Change of Seasons as well as miniseries and television movies such as Helen of Troy and Jesse Stone: Sea Change.
Kern has also produced such films as All I Wanna Do.
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The USA roster for next week's friendly has been released and it features some new faces as well as some familar ones, with 14 of the 18 players called in coming from the 2010 USA World Cup team.
Landon Donovan, Tim Howard and Carlos Bocanegra are among the veterans, while Jermaine Jones and Alejandro Bedoya are two non-World Cup players on the squad that will face Brazil on Tuesday in New Jersey.
Here is the squad:
GOALKEEPERS- Brad Guzan (Aston Villa), Tim Howard (Everton)
DEFENDERS– Carlos Bocanegra (Saint-Étienne), Jonathan Bornstein (Chivas USA), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover), Clarence Goodson (IK Start), Chad Marshall (Columbus Crew), Jonathan Spector (West Ham United)
MIDFIELDERS– Alejandro Bedoya (Örebro), Michael Bradley (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Maurice Edu (Rangers), Benny Feilhaber (Aarhus), Jermaine Jones (Schalke), Sacha Kljestan (Anderlecht)
FORWARDS– Edson Buddle (Los Angeles Galaxy), Robbie Findley (Real Salt Lake), Herculez Gomez (Pachuca)
Clint Dempsey and Jozy Altidore are among the players missing from the squad, as are Oguchi Onyewu, Jay DeMerit and Ricardo Clark.
So what starting lineup could we see against Brazil? Here's a possibility:
PROJECTED USA LINEUP vs. BRAZIL
What do you think of the roster? Who are you glad to see on the list? Which player is missing that you were hoping to see?
Share your thoughts below.
Red Bull Fan
Lets look at who is there and not who is not! Borstein and Findley wil start…Bob plays his boys, biggest suprise is Clark, but he probably is trying to secure position at club…otherwise Bob would start him too. I believe a coach should not take a team through two cycles..players become comfortable and the fear of nott making WC or starting goes awsysee 2006 with Bruce, but BB needs to be part of the scouting and selection proccess…US should go in anopther direction for coach….Dominick Kinear with Bob as a technical Director
GO USA (Will be at game!)
lol, just noticed that i did that.
At first I thought that was a comma after Jesus Christ. I was envisioning a flooded field to give us a clear advantage, having the only man on the pitch that could walk on water. Clearly that would be the proper strategy for a player of that ability. I wonder if Bob would play it that way. I also suppose he would get the #10 shirt.
People, think about what this game means to USSF – it si a post-WC event intended to carry WC goodwill over and bolster what hopefully is a growing wave of soccer popularity in the US. In that sense, it must cater to the newer fans. Filling the squad with a bunch of new names who were not in the WC will only confuse the less "experienced" fan. That is not what USSF wants or needs in order to continue the post-WC bump. Thus, a mix of familiar WC faces, plus a couple "players of the future" is likely very much in line with what the higher ups wanted for this particular game. The experimentation with the promising young guns will start next Jan, when nobody's looking. Then we can re-introduce our younger, new and improved USMNT for the Gold Cup in 2011… hopefully in a German accent.
No one said "bring our entire U20 team" – did you read my post?
We had several guys show very well in that tournament, though – and a few of them are either based domestically in MLS, or even in college…which means they aren't even playing right now. Why not give those kind of guys (Ibrahim, Agudelo, Valentin, etc.) a chance to train…if even for a day…with our senior guys?
It's no less ridiculous than flying a bunch of dudes over from Europe, right before their seasons start…
Is anyone else happy not to see Altidore in the squad? I'd really like to see someone else get a chance. I am not a Jozy hater, but I am beginning to think that his touch is just not there. He's big, strong and fast and that's gotten him this far in life, but I am really conflicted about whether he lacks basic ball skills or if it's just that he's young. He's great when he can use his athleticism to run onto a ball or when he has time to settle the ball at his feet and take on defenders, but when he has to quickly bring the ball down and beat a quality defender in one smooth motion, his skills seem to fail him more often than not. Having said that, who else can we put out there? Part of me thinks he could be amazing and part of me thinks he's a symbol of what's wrong with American development where the big, athletic kids get pushed through the system at the expense of the smaller but more skilled kids. Where is the American David Villa? Would he even get any attention from coaches in the US system? I'd welcome anyone's thoughts on this.
not that he doesn't need to adjust to the speed of the international level, but against slovenia our backline was too busy playing the long ball, thus taking torres' abilities out of the game from the beginning.
Ski Fast!
If only Le Toux and Mwanga were already eligible…we would not have to worry about calling up guys like Findley due to a complete lack of depth at forward.
Under 20 means very little in terms of the senior side. The classic example would be Adu who dominated at that level but who has proven to be 6 years of a gigantic waste at the senior level. There are tons more examples.
This match was arranged as a thank you for the World Cup team and to take advantage of the World Cup success at raising the public profile of the USMNT. Fielding a bunch of Under 20's who no one has ever heard of and then losing badly would be bad. Besides the entire World Cup squad fought their hearts out and they deserved to be thanked. Screw Brek Shea and his boys; they did nothing for the 2010 World Cup. Let them earn their own fricking thank you game.
"This game is a great opportunity to showcase many players from the World Cup team who earned the respect and appreciation of fans across the country," said U.S. head coach Bob Bradley. "At the same time, our goal continues to be to compete and succeed against the best teams in the world. With an extremely talented group of players, Brazil will be another difficult test."
There might actually be one practice session but most likely will be basically a pickup game so any newbies will have to already know exactly what is going on. Under those circumstances any Under 20's picked are unlikely to play and unlikely to practice much. And you forget that many of them have jobs to take care of as well.
If any of these Under 20's are any good they will still be around in January when the permanent manager, whether that is Bradley or someone else, can then tell them what they have to do to get caps. No sense in filling their heads with Bradley's ways if those aren't going to be in use going forward.
Where in Bolton's 4-2-2 does Holden line up?
"For me, it was easier to take that he had a man crush on R.Clark & Findley instead of believing that he actually looked at the choices analytically and came up with Findley & R.Clark as "players that he thinks give the team the best change to win"."
Tha's because he has a lot more information on the subject than you.
You're so right!
Tired of seeing fans turn on players that helped USMNT through out the years.
Beasely is a quality player who just needs a good club status.
Most idiotic list i have ever seen!! how do you honestly believe those players are better than the squad chosen??
if we get a new coach i hope he picks Robbie F just to piss you off. idiot.
"the list of successful 2 term coaches:"
Italy's Vittorio Pozzo (1929–1948) — World Champions 1934, World Champions 1938
Do you know why there are few 2 term WC coaches in the modern era? Or for that matter why most international teams change coaches every couple of years?
It's because the good coaching jobs are the club gigs.
National team coaches are veterans looking to brush up their resumes, unknowns looking to make a statement, old washed up guys looking for one last roundup before going out to pasture.
If things go well, they move on to better things as soon as possible, if not they are publicy humiliated and slink away to lick their wounds. In the rest of the world then , if you are any good, you move on because you are always at the mercy of the player pool and who knows how it will go ? You can't buy your way out of trouble.
That's why there are so few long term managers of national teams. It's a crap job for the most part.
There is nothing inherently wrong with the stability of keeping Bradley around. He will be better next time out if only because the player pool is getting better and deeper.
Besides no international manager worth a damm would want this job. Bradley makes a third of what Hodgson made as manager of Fulham a mediocre EPL side. And Roy had a much better player pool. Plus the US is on a four year cycle not the two year one that the big European teams are on.
So it's not real attractive. The reason Klinsman, who has a very thin resume, keeps coming up is because he is very charming with the media and he might actually take the job, though I doubt it. Yes, I know, he was a great player but so was Maradona and you see how much that helps.
Elite Hunting
Based on half a good season you want to suit up Sebastian Le Toux for the USMNT? I'm no Robbie Findley fan but he's younger and has scored way more goal in MLS than Le Toux. Did you see Le Toux for the Sounders last year? He was TERRIBLE.
Mwanga may turn out to be a great player but let's not get crazy on him, either. The Union are terrible and he's far from a finishing wizard. At least he's young and has potential.
Elite Hunting
Where is the American David Villa? One doesn't exist. You want to blame the system but has it occurred to you that ours isn't a culture that embraces the game like the European's do? In Spain, they ask themselves where the Spanish LeBron James is. And the answer is that their culture doesn't embrace basketball like the Americans. It isn't a grand conspiracy. It's a cultural issue. One that will be solved in time.
Elite Hunting
I'd want to kill if my hometown MLS team made Jay Demerit a DP signing.
Be Reasonable
Najar can't play for the United States. he isn't a citizen.
meadowland mel
you are one of the few posters that seem to understand the process of selecting a roster.
in addition to what you stated i would like to add a few comments.
gooch, davies torres, beckerman, gaven, kenny cooper are injured.
altidore, johnson, adu, holden, dempsey, demerit and beasley are either trying to find a new club or cement a starting spot.
you do not want to bring new players in with only one day practice.
congratulation on a good post
Clark made the turnover that resulted in Ghana going up 1-0 in the first 10 mins and had to be replaced at 30 mins because he was ineffective and more than likely going to get a red card.
And if BB has a lot more information on the subject than me, than why does he make head scratching decisions? Clark over Edu and Findley over Gomez/Buddle still have me puzzled.
Bringing in Findley for this match is again such a head scratcher.
Where's CD9? all you guys told me he was ready for the world cup!!!!!
Except not to start RICARDO FREAKIN' CLARK!!!!
Did you even watch the Slovenia game…? I watched it twice (you can borrow my DVR if you want!!), and EVERY attacking sequence, good pass, and creative play in the first half (which there were numerous!!) started at the feet of Torres!! I would implore you to watch the game again before you make such nonsense comments!
maybe he's focused on impressing Hughes?
Need I remind all of you that those guys are all playing in leagues that are not only stronger than the MLS, but where they receive top level tactical training, deal with the pressure of keeping a place in the team week in and week out, deal with the expectations heaped upon them from a much more aware fan base, media, and coaching staffs, and they are all successful. They deserve a call up…I can promise you this…any one of those guys I mentioned above would have finished the two "sitters" Findley screwed the pooch on vs. Australia!!
Squad….who mentioned the "squad"…?? I was speaking of the forwards chosen!! I would have liked to have seen some squad changes as well, like Lichaj (spelling??) chosen, Simek, etc…but it didn't happen, but we were discussing the forwards. You need to read up before you comment!! I hope we choose BB for another four years just so that you can watch another world cup success slowly slip out of your grasp!!
NC Jeff
So, if in New Jersey, the USA beats a Brazil squad that includes 4 of its WC players, BB will keep his job instead of lose it?
Ned Flanders
Lichaj has yet to play a first team game for Villa. While his future is promising, he ought to win a place there before getting called up. Simek has never recovered completely from his ankle injury of 2008. His career is in danger.
"…I can promise you this…any one of those guys I mentioned above would have finished the two "sitters" Findley screwed the pooch on vs. Australia!! "
More braggadocio. You don't even know if those guys would have been in position to miss those sitters. If they are as good as you say, time will tell. Gomez got on the team because he forced his way on and that is how it needs to go for them.
Whatever happened to earning it? And before you give me chapter and verse about Bradley's faves, forwards are different. If you score they have to take you. Otherwise, the only way you take non scoring forwards is if you can prove that the team is better when you play.
I'm going to dream for a second, this is the 23 I'd like to see for 2014:
GOALKEEPER- Tim Howard, Brad Guzan, Bill Hamid
DEFENDERS- Eric Lichaj, Oguchi Onyewu, Ike Opara, Kevin Alston, Jonathan Spector, Jonathan Bornstein, Tim Ream, Omar Gonzalez,
MIDFIELDERS- Landon Donovan, Michael Bradley, Stuart Holden, Maurice Edu, Jermaine Jones, Jose Francisco Torres, Alejandro Bedoya, Andy Najar/Mix Diskerud (Depending on Andy's decision)
FORWARDS- Jozy Altidore, Clint Dempsey, Charlie Davies, Danny Mwanga
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Thandika Mkandawire is Director of the United Nations Research Institute for Social Development (UNRISD). He is an economist with extensive experience in the promotion of comparative research on development issues. From 1986 through 1996, he was Executive Secretary of the Council for the Development of Social Science Research in Africa (CODESRIA), headquartered in Dakar.
Thandika is a member of the editorial boards of Global Governance; Development and Change; Africa Development; and the Oxford Journal of Development Studies. He has also recently served on the executive committees of the International Institute for Labour Studies, the Swedish NGO Fund for Human Rights, the Comparative Research Programme on Poverty (CROP) of the International Social Science Council, Care International, the Steering Committee of the UNU Project on Intellectual History, and the African Gender Institute. Thandika, who was also Senior Research Fellow at the Centre for Development Research in Copenhagen, took up his post as UNRISD Director in May 1998.
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"African Intellectuals, Political Culture and Development." Journal f?r Entwicklungspolitik (Austrian Journal of Development Studies), XV 111:1 (Special Issue Edited by Henning Melber), 2002.
"Globalization and Social Equity." African Sociological Review, 2002.
"The Terrible Toll of Post-Colonial 'Rebel Movements' in Africa: Toward an Explanation of the Violence Against the Peasantry." Journal of Modern African Studies, 2002.
?Incentives, Governance and Capacity Development: What Role for Technical Assistance in Africa?? Capacity for Development: New Solutions to Old Problems. Sakiko Fukuda-Parr, Carlos Lopes and Khalid Malik (eds.). Earthscan, 2002.
"Social Policy in a Development Context." UNRISD, Geneva, 2001.
"Thinking About Developmental States in Africa." Cambridge Journal of Economics, 2001.
"Non-Organic Intellectuals and 'Learning' in Policy-Making Africa." Learning in Development Co-operation. Jerker Carlsson and Lennart Wohlgemuth (eds.). Sweden: EGDI, 2000.
"Crisis Management and the Making of 'Choiceless Democracies' in Africa." The State, Conflict and Democracy in Africa. Richard Joseph (ed.). Boulder, Colorado: Lynne Rienner, 1999.
"Shifting Commitments and National Cohesion in African Countries." Common Security and Civil Society in Africa. Lennart Wohlegemuth, Samantha Gibson, Stephan Klasen and Emma Rothchild (eds.). Uppsala: Nordiska Afrikainstitutet, 1999.
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