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|Tue, 06 Mar 2001 04:06:05 GMT
Hello everyone, The Apache Software Foundation exists to provide a solid legal foundation under U.S. corporate law for many of the collaborative activities that were formerly done by a group of individuals called the Apache Group. Our status as a corporation allows us to protect the work of individual volunteers and provide both code and people some insulation from the the legal liabilities associated with distributing software. In order to accomplish that, the Foundation must retain and exercise sufficient oversight of its activities equivalent to that of other legal entities. We accomplish that, in accordance with our bylaws, by appointing a Project Management Committee (PMC) to oversee the activities of each and every project. The purpose of a PMC is to make sure we do things legally and without recklessly endangering the foundation's assets (the good name and all of the code contributed to the foundation). The PMC does not exist to make the technical decisions regarding the project, though it does have the authority to determine who has commit access and voting privileges within the project, and what that means in terms of project guidelines. The ASF board determines the scope of a PMC (i.e., the range of different software products managed under the oversight of the PMC) when the PMC is initiated and when it is refreshed on an annual basis, or whenever the board feels it is appropriate to update the PMC status. The membership of the PMC is appointed by the board in accordance with the desires of the volunteers working on the project. That is, the PMC is supposed to be elected by the committers on the project, or include all of the committers on the project, because that's pretty much the only way to ensure that what we do remains a true collaboration and doesn't degrade into some sort of consortium or a mirror of our real jobs. As I mentioned at the beginning of the year: >In my opinion (this time as chairman), many of the sub-projects currently >hosted under the XML and Jakarta projects are outside the scope of the >the mandate given to those PMCs. There are only three solutions to >this problem: > > 1) board resolutions are required to expand the scope of those PMCs; > > 2) board resolutions are required to separate each new project into > a more focused PMC; > > 3) the chairman will direct remaining out-of-scope and inadequately > overseen projects to cease distributing software as part of the > Apache Software Foundation. Needless to say, I was disappointed by the lack of response on the part of the XML and Jakarta projects. Two months should have been more than enough time to set a direction and write a couple resolutions detailing how the projects would be overseen. Regarding Jakarta, the Jakarta PMC has decided to expand its mandate to include its present projects, under the theory that the communication problems can be solved by following the project guidelines and holding more regular meetings, much like the board does for the ASF. Sam Ruby presented a resolution to the board that would expand the mandate of Jakarta to cover all server-related Java software. The board refused to consider this resolution because it did not include a list of PMC members that could reasonably represent all of the projects under that mandate. Sam has been given the task of assembling a proposed PMC according to the wishes of all of the committers on those projects, to be presented to the board at the next meeting (March 21). Regarding XML, the XML PMC did not respond to my request and no resolution was forthcoming. As a result, the board has decided to terminate the current XML PMC and has assigned Dirk-Willem van Gulik the task of assembling one or more project management committees according to the wishes of the committers within each of the projects currently under the XML banner. Resolutions for such projects will be considered at the next board meeting. My expectation is that all of our current XML and Jakarta projects will be refreshed before the end of the March 21 meeting. If not, the next board will be advised to cancel any projects that remain in an orphaned state. Sincerely, Roy T. Fielding, Chairman, The Apache Software Foundation (email@example.com) <http://www.apache.org/>
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Resolution: Captain Cook's Second Voyage of Discovery
by Peter Aughton
320pp, Weidenfeld & Nicolson, £18.99
Discoveries: The Voyages of Captain Cook
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Captain James Cook is without doubt Britain's foremost maritime explorer. There seem to be two emblematic images of the great man. Either we see him as the captain at his helm, stolid and unflappable, barking orders at the crew in a Yorkshire accent as his tiny wooden vessel, the Endeavour or Resolution, negotiates the Barrier Reef or a flotilla of Antarctic icebergs. Otherwise he stands on the beach of some tropical island surrounded by a halo of Tahitian beauties, the pig-tailed, frock-coated ambassador of civilisation amid an ocean of sexual exoticism and savagery.
Each of these books focuses on one of the two historical paradigms - Cook the mapmaker and Cook the discoverer of new peoples. Peter Aughton's Resolution plumps squarely for the hero of maritime exploration. He takes as his main subject the second of the three great voyages, arguably the most remarkable of his journeys and covering the years 1772-75. Cook's meandering course around the Pacific included visits to Tahiti, New Zealand, the New Hebrides, the Marquesas, Tonga, Easter Island and South Georgia, as well as a double penetration of the Antarctic Circle. During these two extraordinary forays he reached 71 degrees south, the highest latitude ever achieved by a sailing vessel, which almost resulted in Cook's discovery of the continent itself, a feat he missed by a few dozen miles.
Aughton's narrative is well judged in terms of both tone and pace and it is a good introduction to the Cook legend. It is also a succinct alternative to Beaglehole's exhaustive hagiography and his definitive edition of the great captain's own rather tight-lipped, sparse narrative. Aughton is especially good on the rough camaraderie of maritime life as well as the shared hardships which such a venture entailed - the damp, draughty quarters, sour water, weevil-flavoured bis cuit, ancient salt beef and the perpetual danger of scurvy.
While Aughton sticks to the nuts and bolts of maritime history he is a valuable guide. It is when the boat lands that he is less satisfactory. Cook was a key pioneer of cross-cultural relations between Europeans and the heterogeneous inhabitants of Oceania. Many of his actions and of those who followed in his wake had profound con- sequences for both good and ill. Aughton's determination to step briskly over these knotted issues is frustrating.
For example, he describes Cook's donation of pigs, chickens and various seed and root vegetables to the New Zealand Maori as the good captain's attempt "to do as much as possible to advance the New Zealand economy". That is certainly how an 18th-century audience would have viewed the matter. What Aughton doesn't mention here is the frequent gap between our old European intentions and their unforeseen consequences. In fact the release of western livestock and vegetation in many parts of Oceania had completely the reverse effect, profoundly disrupting the island ecosystems.
The same Eurocentric interpretation is evident in his treatment of various encounters between British sailors and indigenous inhabitants. One of the more gruesome incidents concerned the discovery of a Maori corpse. "There had been much discussion," writes Aughton, "about whether or not the Maoris were cannibals and there was only one way to prove it beyond all doubt. The head was brought back ... and part of the flesh was cut off and roasted." Their New Zealand guests then tucked in with relish.
We, like Cook's crew, are appalled by cannibalism, but was that truly the only way to investigate Maori custom? And did not the British sailors, driven by some horror-show prurience, become complicit in the act by initiating it? Aughton's complete identification with his 18th-century subjects, his blithe acceptance of the sailors' preparation of human flesh as a perfectly rational, almost scientific approach to an anthropological question, is inadequate. Surely the whole scenario was as much a demonstration of Europe's ritual psychology - our long-held views of the "savage" and our obsessive preoccupation with cannibalism - as it was of genuine anthropophagy among New Zealand's Maori.
The dark space between these two utterly alien cultures seems to be the natural habitat for a writer like Nicholas Thomas in his book, Discoveries: The Voyages of Captain Cook. Thomas is a professor of anthropology with 20 years' study of Pacific culture behind him. And it shows. Although we can never recover precisely how the Tahitians or New Caledonians perceived the British community of men that entered their worlds, Thomas pieces together a highly convincing and illuminating interpretation of their responses. Even his concern to do so is satisfying where Aughton's work lets us down. After all, it is the discoveries made by the Pacific hosts, and not by the visitors, that remain the uncharted waters in Cook's story.
Thomas takes as his field the entire range of the three journeys, culminating finally in Cook's death at the hands of the Hawaiians in 1779. However, his book is not simply a chronological travelogue. Rather, he isolates moments and incidents that shed important light on the two-way encounter between European and Pacific islander. To give just one small example of his modus operandi, he examines the myth, dominant in the late 18th century and surviving today (thanks to artists such as Gauguin), that Tahiti was a kind of erotic paradise untainted by the cramping neuroses of western morality. The sexual favours dispensed by young Tahitian women were probably among the reasons Cook and the Admiralty were able to find so many volunteers for his hazardous ventures.
Joseph Banks, the celebrated naturalist on Cook's first voyage, cited as an example of this apparent licence an incident in which a Tahitian woman stripped before him as she stepped from one length of cloth spread before her to another. While Banks took the whole thing as a stripshow demonstration of her sensuality, Thomas argues it was not her body being revealed but the tattoos around her buttocks and genitals, which confirmed her as a woman of sufficient social status that Banks might feel comfortable in trading for the cloth with her. Thomas's subtle methods reveal it finally not as an act of sexual theatre but as a wonderful comedy of cultural misunderstandings.
In his introduction he claims to wish to dispense with the author's presumed certainties in the conventional grandparent-to-grave style of biography, and to attempt to "capture a sense of a particular time, with its recollection of the past, and its anticipated but unknown future". He certainly creates an unusual narrative form and feels free to step into the historical account personally and draw us towards his own experiences, but he does not quite pull off his planned temporal sleight-of-hand. Nevertheless, Discoveries is a rare triumph of very fine writing and scholarly erudition, coupled with ambitious imagination and insight. While Aughton simply retells the old heroic tale of geographical exploration, Thomas takes us on a very different journey of discovery that somehow makes Cook's travels seem modern, relevant and enlightening.
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Published: May 18, 1993
A Bronx mother who had reported her 10-year-old child missing Friday night found out only yesterday that the boy had been taken from school Friday by the city's Child Welfare Administration, the police said.
School officials acknowledged yesterday that they should have done more to contact the mother, Carol Rockhead, when they could not reach her by telephone. Sheila Jack, a spokeswoman for the Child Welfare Administration, said she could not comment on the agency's role in the case because of state confidentiality rules that protect families' privacy.
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Communities warned of approaching fire
An emergency fire warning has been issued for communities around the Bundarra area in the Gwydir region of northern New South Wales.
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There are more than 120 fires burning across New South Wales.
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by Oliver Dewar on 18 May 2012
Leg 4 prizes designed and produced by Fred Moore www.metalartbyfred.com - Global Ocean Race 2011-12 Global Ocean Race ©
Global Ocean Race 2011-12 (GOR) Leg 4 prize giving was held at the Charleston Yacht Club in City Marina with two of the GOR's Class40s, Cessna Citation and Financial Crisis, moored directly in front of the clubhouse.
With three days remaining to the start of GOR Leg 5, the GOR Race Organisation and the four Class40 teams with an entourage of friends, family and supporters attended the event.
The club's Commodore, Tony Ward, presented the prizes with an audience including the Italian and Slovak Honorary Consuls, club members, friends, family and supporters of the GOR teams and a delegation of Slovaks living in the US and visiting Charleston to support the GOR's Italian-Slovak skipper, Marco Nannini.
Following music by the Charleston Virtuosi – a Slovakian cello and violin duo based in the USA, Peter Kiral and Lujza Durisova - GOR Race Director, Josh Hall, and Commodore Tony Ward distributed the awards. For the Leg 4 prizes for the 6,700-mile course from Punta del Este, Uruguay, to Charleston (see the complete Leg 4 ranking below), the four teams were awarded unique, stainless steel, engraved sails by local artist, Fred Moore.
New Zealand skipper, Conrad Colman and his Australian co-skipper, Scott Cavanough returned to the stage to collect two Luminox Colormark Watches for the bluQube 24-hour Run Prize having hit the highest average speed in Leg 4 with Cessna Citation at 286.3nm over 24 hours, although this speed falls short of Colman's Leg 2 24-hour run of 359nm.
More Luminox watches were awarded with Scott Cavanough of Cessna Citation receiving an exclusive Luminox Yachting Countdown Timer for winning the Leg 4 Luminox Photo Competition with the Australian co-skipper's cockpit image taking 65% of the total votes cast. A second Luminox Yachting Countdown Timer was presented to Marco Nannini who won the Luminox Spirit of the GOR Award for his continued involvement throughout the GOR with Slovakian communities around the world and his entertaining and popular Mustang Club of Italy gatherings at each stopover.
As the Leg 4 crew of Sec. Hayai – Erik van Vuuren and Yvonne Beusker - had already returned home to Holland, the yacht's Leg 5 co-skipper, Frans Budel, was on stage to collect the Garmin Navigation Award for Van Vuuren and Beusker, accepting two handheld Garmin eTrex 30 GPS units for their faultless performance following a pit stop in Fortaleza, Brazil.
For the first time in the GOR, the Seahorse Magazine and www.thedailysail.com Media Prize was split between two Class40s with Sergio Frattaruolo of Financial Crisis and Scott Cavanough of Cessna Citation winning a year's subscription to Seahorse Magazine and www.thedailysail.com for the high quality of the video footage recorded on board.
At the end of the evening, the Charleston Yacht Club's Commodore, Tony Ward, presented each of the skippers with a CYC baseball cap and each team was presented with supplies of coffee and tea for the North Atlantic Leg 5 by Brad and Jacki Mallett of Coastal Coffee Roasters.
GOR Leg 4 Ranking:
1. Cessna Citation: 28d 11h 45m
2. Financial Crisis: 29d 10h 22m 50s
3. Phesheya-Racing: 30d 4h 39m 20s
4. Sec. Hayai: 31d 1h 6m 30s (corrected from 30d 1h 6m 30s)
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|This is a discussion on Raising, why does everyone say that? within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; After browsing around these forums for a little while now and reading a good bit, I have a question about raising. Just about every time
Raising, why does everyone say that?
After browsing around these forums for a little while now and reading a good bit, I have a question about raising. Just about every time I hear someone say something about raising before the flop, they are saying to do so to "thin the field", "get the crap out", etc, etc, etc. I just don't really understand this. Just about every book I've read doesn't really say anything about thinning the field. SUre they go into how some hands due better multiway or some are easier to play heads-up. However, they usually follow that up with your return (if you have a good hand of course) is still better then your investment, and now with more people in your return will be higher. If I have KK don't I want crap like 35o and stuff to call? Why would Iraise 6-7x the blinds to make sure I only get a good hand in? Why do I want to chase away the bad players?
If you have pocket Aces and see the flop with four other players, you are less than 50% to win the hand. With the Kings you want to get players with an Ace and a bad kicker.
The most important part for raising is to make other players put money in the pot when you have a good chance to win. Therefore you are winning more money with your big hands (+ev).
well said, it doesnt take a genius to realize that you dont want a good hand (AA,KK) to get out drawn and spoiled by some random donk trying to suckout with 47 or somtin like that.
you raise preflop because you are trying to protect your hand and you want to make sure you get better odds of winning the hand.
if you play AA against 1 person, you have a great chance of making some moeny, possibly a lot of money if he hits top pair or misses a draw.
if you play AA against 5 other people, you have a chance tow in a ton of money, yet the chance to win isnt very big.
whats the point of having a big hand if you cany make money with it?!?!
its drawing hands like 78 suited in which you want to have a lot of limpers in with you, just incase you hit big and thus are able to win a huge pot with more people involved.
not raising preflop with a big hand against multiple players is just asking for trouble.
The idea is to give other players the opportunity to make a mistake. If you have AA and let the BB see a flop with 63o and he flops a straight and wins a big pot, he hasn't made any mistakes. But, if you force him to call a bet to see that flop with the weaker hand, then he's made a mistake. The same happens when you force someone to pay too much to draw to a flush. Poker, at its core, is simply about making less mistakes than your opponents. But, unlike most games, you can actually set the odds, thereby rigging the game in your favor when you have the favorite hand.
So raising is less about thinning the field than forcing errors. But, thinning the field makes your play on later streets easier, because you can theoretically narrow your opponent's range. That puts you in a better position to force mistakes.
Interested to know what books you have read. I have read several and as far as i know they basically say raise to build pot, and raise to thin field. Everyone has pretty much said the same thing here but the more people in a pot the weaker a strong preflop hand becomes.
re: Poker & Raising, why does everyone say that?
the more people in a pot the weaker a strong preflop hand becomes.[/quote]
it doesnt become any weaker, you just have to worry about more flops.
the more limpers you have with an unraosed pot preflop, the more likelyhood of a flop connecting with one of them.
if you raise bg preflop with AA and only one person calls, the flop then comes J67, you can feel safer and assume you have the lead unless he has a set.
if you have your AA preflop in an unraised pot along with 5 limpers, that flop becomes extremly dangerous.
there is a very good chance that someone has 2 pair and another person might have a flush draw and/or a open ended straight draw.
basically, your big hand preflop is just as strong, you're just letting more weaker hands see a flop, thus taking a huge risk since the odds of one of the limpers hitting big is much higher now with a higher range of flops.
"The idea is to give other players the opportunity to make a mistake."
This is good advice.
There are three big advantages to raising with a big hand to thin the field.
The first is as already mentioned, to let the other guy make a mistake. If he overplays something (as most people have a tendency to do) it's going to cost him. Quite simply if your hand is ahead of your opponent's calling range, why not raise?
The second is to get a feel for what you're up against. If you take the flop five handed there are very few flops that will seem safe, you risk being against two pair, a set or a bigger pair on just about any flop (bigger pair only included because it's more than just AA that we're discussing as possible "thin the field" hands).
Yes, rubish hands are putting money in when they're behind if you tempt them to play, but once that flop hits how do you play it? How do you get all of your chips in (getting called all the way) and know you're still good? It's just such an ugly situation to play.
Also consider pre-flop what their implied odds are compared to yours. Rubish can fold every time they don't hit the nuts, but you've got a monster that you shouldn't dump without a fight very often.
The third advantage, as I see it, is building a pot. Limping or making a small raise pre-flop is not going to build a big pot. Raising and re-raising is going to build a pot that someone is going to be interested in enough that they'll lose a lot of chips very often.
So out of all of that: By raising you get fewer callers but more money in the middle and you have a better idea of what you're up against and you're giving your opponents a good chance to make a mistake.
Sounds good to me.
Pokervic pretty much hit what I was trying to say. I wasn't saying that you shouldn't raise preflop, I was just wondering why everyone says to raise to thin the field. I understand that you want people to make mistakes, but if you are thinning the field to get rid of the crap hands, aren't you forcing them to make the right decision? I would like to make the standard raise and want people to call. Of course I won't win as often, but when I do the pot will be bigger, will it not?
For example, if I have AA pre-flop utg and raise to 4x BB. If I get 2 callers pokerstove says I still win about 70% of the time (if I were heads up I'd win about 85% of the time). Now sayI get a total of 4 callers, now I only win about half of the time but I'm only putting in about 20% of the pot. In the heads up example I"m putting in 50 to win 85, in the last I'm putting in 20 to win 50 (and it will be a far large pot).
Maybe I'm just missing something but it seems to me that you are raising for value and NOT to get rid of people.
The only time you should be raising 6-7x the blinds, is :
1) Everybody else (or you) has been raising that amount when they open.
2) You are re-raising someone who has raised 2x the blinds.
In all but the lowest stakes games, if you consistently raise more with your bigger hands, less with your smaller hands, it's a big leak / tell, and most players are going to fold, or at least easily put you on your hand.
i raise for value and i'm also hoping everyone with trash will lay it down, with something like AA, i'm really hoping for a re-raise to further clean out anyone else's aspirations of taking a peek a the flop because i've possibly just caught myself a pretty big pot as it is. i'm also feeling out the table because if someone raises me, and then another person re-raises them, then maybe i should lay my AQ to rest.
When I have AA in an MTT/SNG I'm usually trying to play for stacks - preferably pf and against 1 or 2 opponents.
Try not to scare everyone away - (you lose value) but to thin the field as said.
I'll give you two pokerstove stats against random opponents....
VS 7 opponents:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
9,794,258 games 70.844 secs 138,251 games/sec
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.713% 38.49% 00.22% 3770081 21632.71 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 08.747% 08.02% 00.73% 785379 71347.29 { random }
Hand 2: 08.752% 08.02% 00.73% 785773 71422.63 { random }
Hand 3: 08.759% 08.03% 00.73% 786744 71111.88 { random }
Hand 4: 08.760% 08.03% 00.73% 786686 71285.29 { random }
Hand 5: 08.758% 08.03% 00.73% 786360 71385.54 { random }
Hand 6: 08.762% 08.03% 00.73% 786826 71320.79 { random }
Hand 7: 08.750% 08.02% 00.73% 785889 71094.88 { random }
VS 2 opponents:
ext results appended to pokerstove.txt
47,622,332 games 40.312 secs 1,181,343 games/sec
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 73.436% 73.21% 00.23% 34863106 109436.83 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 13.280% 12.92% 00.36% 6152158 171984.17 { random }
Hand 2: 13.284% 12.92% 00.36% 6154134 172088.67 { random }
It breaks down to this: Given everyone has the same stack (say 2K) and is all in by the river....
- you will have 16K 37.8% of the time and bust 62.2% of the time in scenario 1.
- you will have 6K 73.4% of the time and bust 26.6% of the time in scenario 2.
Hope this makes things clearer....?!
re: Poker & Raising, why does everyone say that?
The idea for me is, no one will fight for a 3bb pot, but if you can get it to a 15-20 bb pot, they are gonna take a stab at it and possibly make a mistake. You are going to get just as many straights, flushes, sets, etc. as everyone else in the long run....what makes you money is how you play these hands.
ericgarner, what is the point of having a huge value pot if your chances of winning it are smaller?!?! seems rather foolish to me.
if you play your aces well in HU play, you can cause your opponent to wahnt to bluff you. doing nothing with AA and not raising with them is horrible in my mind, it gives people with hands like 64, 85 insentive to get in on the action, they only need to call the BB to see a flop vs 6 other people, its cheap for them to try to hit big.
Maybe my confusion is coming from the fact that I play cash games. Grafkarow, in your example the pot with multiple people if you multiply the pots by the % of chance you'll win it you get $6048 but in the smaller pot you only win $4404. I understand that in a tournament you would want to conserve your tournament life, but wouldn't (all dollars being equal) I want to take the path that gives me the most money? The pot with more people will earn me more money in the long run then the smaller pot.
I disagree with this statement, "The pot with more people will earn me more money in the long run then the smaller pot.".
I think the more likely outcome in the long run is that you may win bigger pots, but you will lose a higher percentage of pots.
The power of pocket pairs really dries up after 2 or more people get to see the flop.
I play $2/$4 Limit in my local casino....otherwise know as "No Fold'em Hold'em. For $2, it seems that no one folds. Most flops are seen by 7-9 players at a 10 player table. It's been my experience that under these circumstance, pocket A's will win about 30% of the time. When I get them I still raise, but not to thin the field, as that is no too likely to happen, unless I happen to be at a table of decent players. But, I still raise for value. Even if the pocket A's only win 30% of the time, raising preflop is still correct. The reason pocket A's are beaten so often in this situation is because of the huge number of collective outs that exist among the wide range of hands being played by the 6-8 players who call your preflop raise. The situation only become worse if the flop is coordinated. However, in a No Limit cash game or tournament raising to thin the field is more effective and accomplishes the goal of thinning the field, since pocket A's (and other top pair hands) play much better against fewer opponents.
re: Poker & Raising, why does everyone say that?
Im gonna start playing with you EG, ill be able to play cheaply against your AA .
In any game (as dakota mentioned) you dont want many people against your big PP's, unless you raise big and they call, thats another thing.
i have a better way to explain....
in poker, when you know you have the best hand, you want to enlargen the pot, make money when you know your ahead, that should be no different with AA preflop. if you dont raise, not only are you keeping the pot small when you have the nuts, you are also allowing others to potentially surpass your hand.
if you limp with AA, along with 6 other people, a flop comes 67J, your going to be up against a strong hand and probably multiple draws as well, this is where you start to lose a lot of money because people dont like mucking pocket A's,its against their nature, especially in online poker.
people have a hard time mucking AA even when its obvious they arent ahead.
let me make a schematic for you with arrows:
AA preflop---> raise big---->1-2 callers max----->you win a nice pot 70-85% of the time. STRIVE FOR THIS!!!!
AA preflop---> limp----> 6 other limpers-----> unless flop comes A49 with no straight/flush draws, ur in deep sh*t----> U LOSE A LOT OF MONEY!!!!
hope this makes things simple....JUST RAISE WHEN YOU HAVE AA!!!!!!
Betting with A/A is about denying people the implied odds to play their junk hands.
A/A is a big hand pre-flop, but it only a pair post-flop.
Now, against one player, your best pair is probably best, and you can win a big pot if he flops top pair or has an overpair to the flop.
If 5 people are in the pot, a one-pair hand is substantially less likely to win. When a junk hand doesn't hit they muck and you get no extra money. When they hit, you tend to lose a lot of money.
Ok, here's and example. I estimated the percentages, but it's a good enough to show the reasoning behind it.
Say you have A/A at a $1/$2 table. If you only make it $5 and get 5 callers, that's a $30 pot vs 6 opponents. You're what, 40% to win the hand? So that's like $12 in equity. But if they hit a big hand, well, it's difficult not to pay them off. And with 6 players it's likely that someone will hit a weird two pair or straight so you can lose a lot of $.
Now, lets say you make it $10 and get two callers. You're still playing for a $30 pot but now you are probably 60-something percent to win (with $18 or so in equity). Not only that, but with fewer players in the pot you (and they) do not have to worry as much about a weird hand striking gold. That means that everybody at the table will be a lot more willing to play for a bigger pot. Hopefully it'll be you with your over-pair, and them with their top pair or smaller overpair.
Raising pre-flop helps narrow the range of the hands people call with, so it's easier to play them post-flop.
The more people in the hand preflop against AA the more your percentage goes down of winning and also more likely more draws that could potentially be out there for you to avoid after the flop. Example: You have AA and limp you will likely let 34 suited, 67 off, J8 suited, QJ off hands into the pot now say the 34 is clubs and the J8 is hearts, now you have to avoid having 2 clubs or 2 hearts on the flop so they are not chasing you down also having mid range flop makes for straight possibilities. With the above example
AA vs.34c 81.39%/18.20%
AA vs.QJo 84.04%/15.66%
AA vs.76o 81.16%/18.50%
AA vs.34c vs. QJo 64.76%/18.89%/16.09%
AA vs.34c vs. 76o 68.35%/15.46%/15.72%
AA vs.76o vs. QJo 67.71%/15.57%/17.04%
AA vs.34c vs. QJo vs.76o 53.24%/17.12%/16.65%/12.81%
I guess my point in all this gibberish is would you rather flip a coin for 100 times for $100 knowing you had a 84%win percentage or a 53 % win percentage???
As I see it raising and only getting a couple callers will actually get more money into the pot then limping or min raising and getting a bunch of callers will. And it also gives you a higher win percentage. Just because more people are in the pot does not mean that the pot will be larger.
by Ranger above:
"I play $2/$4 Limit in my local casino....otherwise know as "No Fold'em Hold'em. For $2, it seems that no one folds. Most flops are seen by 7-9 players at a 10 player table. It's been my experience that under these circumstance, pocket A's will win about 30% of the time."
Multiway? Give me sneaky SCs over an obvious overpair (often hard to lay down) any time...
Absolutely! Every book says raise to thin the field.
John 6:39-40 And this is the will of Him Who sent Me, that I should not lose any of all that He has given Me, but that I should give new life and raise ...
I was never saying not to raise. It would be foolish to limp in with AA. I guess my question was more of semantics question. Through all these posts I think a couple people have answered my question:
grafkarow: While you are trying to show the opposite of what I'm saying, the percentages that you showed kinda was exactly what I was talking about. IN your example taking the bigger pot that's multiway will result in more money then the pot with less people in it.
Savagepinguin: I understand what you are saying. YOu are saying that it will be easier for me to win the pot when I have a better idea of what the other people have. If they are willing to call a bet of 3-5x the big blind, they most likely have a decent hand. I don't have to worry to much if the flop comes a few connected lower cards. I may have to worry but the action dictates they will most likely have something better then 78s.
f Paulsen: You kinda said what I was tring to say. The odds of you winning a bigger pot are a good bit smaller with a multiway pot but the winnings minus your losses in a multi way pot should be large then your more likely winnings in the smaller way pot.
I think some people might have gotten confused and thought I was saying you shouldn't raise with good hands. That isn't what I was trying to say at all. You most definitly should. Like i said, I think my question is more about some other peoples reasonings behind their raises. When I raise preflop with my great hands, it is for value and not so much to push people out. I don't want to change my beats depending on my hand either, if i play with someone who is paying attention at all he will know that I raise alot more with my great hands and limp in with my not so great hands.
To the people who are saying that every book says that you are raising to thin the field, if you don't mind I would love a couple of examples. If you would like a couple that I've read that are saying the opposite I would be more than happy to go look through them and find them.
I may be way off base with what I'm thinking/trying to understand. However, I haven't seen much to the contrary. Aside from what savagepenguin said about making them easier to play and allowing me a better idea of where I'm at. I'll sit around and do some more math and (obviously) a good bit more reading and try and see what I come up with.
Why thin the field?
Simplified example is if nobody raises, everybody plays every hand, and over time the cards will be completely flat for everyone and no one makes any money.
In fact, that is why the blinds took over the job that antes used to provide. Which was to provide a pot to win.
If there is no pot, then nothing is gained by doing much of anything, and nothing is lost either. By creating a pot, there is gain and loss. But still, if everybody is in every hand, sooner than later everyone will break even (minus rake).
So you/I/we should want to maximize our opportunities, and we do this most easily by cutting a full table down to manageable size by raising to thin the field.
Yeah, raising narrows their range and makes post-flop play easier.
Lets say that you are one of those people who calls with 4/6o or some other questionable hand.
Post flop, what sort of hands are you be willing to build a big pot with? Something that crushes one pair, right? In fact, it's a situation where you're probably going to extract a lot more money from that guy with an overpair.
I'll slow play A/A pre flop on occasion (when I expect someone else to make the isolation bet), [old link~tb]
Sometimes some power hands on the button or near it should be limped to get some value. maybe the bb likes his q4 on a q97 board but your kk will kill him. he thinks he is winning since you limp now you will get a good payout if you play it right.
re: Poker & Raising, why does everyone say that?


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"Yes, so far everyone is still alive and accounted for, they're on cots and stretchers over there," the nurse replied as she pointed to a field that had been turned into a make-shift hospital for the moment. Those with healing abilities were moving from one cot/stretcher to another healing what they could. The two friends rushed over to the field looking for Charlie. They found him standing by an empty stretcher. He had a trail of dried blood running from his noes as well as in various other parts of his body; but his wounds seemed to have closed up, a healer must have gotten to him already. A strong gust of wind started up as Skye narrowed her eyes at him and started moving forward purposefully.
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London, Dec 11 (ANI): It looks like British Labour Party politician David Miliband is following in the footsteps of his mentor and former Prime Minister Tony Blair, by turning to the lucrative foreign lecture circuit after leaving frontline politics.
In a startling revelation, it has emerged that Miliband was paid 25,000 pounds to give a speech on relations between the West and the Muslim world at a conference held in a 'luxurious oasis' resort in the Middle East, reports the Telegraph.
British Parliamentary records showed that he also had his travel and five-star accommodation covered during the three-day trip, partly by the government of the United Arab Emirates.
According to the latest Register of Members' Financial Interests, he was also paid 2,500 pounds to write a newspaper article defending his 'dancing naked women' painting, which his wife had bought him for 800 pounds as a birthday present.
Miliband, a protege of Blair, was expected to become Labour's leader after the election but was dramatically defeated by his younger brother Ed in September.
He declined to serve in the shadow cabinet and bowed out of frontline politics days later.
But according to the latest version of the register of interests, he was quick to find new opportunities.
Miliband records that he received a 'payment of 25,000 pounds for lecture at Sir Bani Yas Forum on Future of Middle East, Abu Dhabi'.
The entry, added on November 30th, adds: 'Fee for lecture paid by the Emirates Centre for Strategic Studies' in Abu Dhabi.
His travel and accommodation between November 5th and 8th was paid for by the International Peace Institute, based in New York, and 'and the Government of UAE'.
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Its website describes it as a 'luxurious oasis' in the 'legendary Liwa Desert' where guests can 'unwind in the unsurpassed comfort of private, palatial-style villas'.
The register also showed that Miliband was paid 2,500 pounds for an article that appeared in a Sunday newspaper under the headline: 'My naked dancing women fill me with joy (and snooty art critics be damned!)'
He wrote the article after a photograph showing a picture of a group of 13 naked women dominating the sitting room of his home in Primrose Hill, north London, emerged.
His wife Louise Shackelton had bought it for him for 800 pounds, but art critics said the work of art was 'middle-brow junk' that 'ought to be in a pole-dancing club'.
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Anaheim Ducks soar to top of Week 6 Power Rankings as Sharks sink
It's a near total Western Conference domination of the Power Rankings this week, and even the most die-hard Eastern fan would have a hard time arguing why it should be any other way.
The records speak for themselves. The West has rolled up a cumulative mark of 73-29-11 for 157 points against the East through Week 6. Eastern teams, meanwhile, are just 40-57-16 for 96 points, and considering the slow starts of the Sabres, Flyers, Devils and Panthers, it's kind of shocking that they've done that well.
While the surprises in the East have been mostly negative, the good times keep rolling out West. The Wild, employing a new, riskier offensive style, have been thrilling their long-suffering fans and piling up the wins. The Coyotes, employing a new, riskier offensive style, are piling up the wins. The Canucks...
Well, you get the picture.
Look at all the key metrics: goals per game, shots per game, power play success...they're all dominated by Western teams who are translating those potent offenses into hot starts.
Can it continue? We'll see...but it's a lot of fun watching it while it lasts.
Here's how the rest of the league stacks up after Week 6.
Notable rise: Dallas Stars (21 to 15)
Notable drop: New York Islanders (19 to 25)
Last Week: 2
Anaheim Ducks (15-3-1)Their Hart-candidate captain is out, they're running with their third-string goalie, and yet the Ducks keep winning. The three victories last week bumped their record at the Pond to 8-0-0, leaving them the only undefeated team at home this season. (Last week: 3-0-0)
Last Week: 1
Colorado Avalanche (14-2-0)Another week, another best-start record for the Avs. Even after their ugly loss to Nashville on Wednesday, they rank first in the NHL in goals-against average (1.75) and remain near the top of the league in goals-scored average (3.38) and penalty kill (88.5 percent). No telling what would happen if they could get that 19th ranked power play on track. (Last week: 2-1-0)
Last Week: 4
Chicago Blackhawks (12-2-4)OK, so the Hawks aren't going to win every game, but they sure look like a team that will win every game it wants to. When their big guns are booming -- and they were magnificent this week, especially on Saturday against the Stars -- Chicago looks unstoppable. (Last week: 3-0-0)
Last Week: 8
St. Louis Blues (11-2-2)They have quietly won eight of 10 to equal the mark for the best start in franchise history through 15 games. Kevin Shattenkirk has put it all together after a rough start. He scored his first of the season against the Penguins on Saturday to run his point streak to eight games. (Last week: 3-0-0)
Last Week: 7
Phoenix Coyotes (12-4-2)They hemorrhaged points in the shootout last season, losing six of 10 in the skills session. Now they've taken four-of-five, including each of their last four wins. Adding the crafty Mike Ribeiro has been a coup. (Last week: 2-1-0)
Last Week: 6
Minnesota Wild (10-4-4)I get that it's hard to change a winning formula, but at some point coach Mike Yeo has to ease up on his lead horse, doesn't he? Ryan Suter has played at least 30 minutes in eight games already, including each of Minnesota's last three. On Thursday, he played 36:51, including 3:53 of a five-minute OT. Crazy. (Last week: 2-0-1)
Last Week: 3
San Jose Sharks (10-2-5)It's not quite a crater but it's definitely more than a bump in the road. The Sharks have now dropped five straight, and while they've pulled a point out of four of them, their inability to make simple plays in their own zone continues to be a problem. So does the shootout. Logan Couture is 3-of-5. The rest of the team? 0-for-12. (Last week: 0-1-2)
Last Week: 9
Tampa Bay Lightning (12-5-0)The surprising Bolts are holding down first place in the Eastern Conference, but it's hard to believe their stay at the top will last much longer now that superstar Steven Stamkos appears to be out for the season with a broken tibia. They also lost top-four defender Sami Salo to a lower-body injury, which will test the team's suspect blueline depth. (Last week: 2-1-0)
Last Week: 13
Boston Bruins (11-5-1)The B's allowed just two goals while rolling up three wins over Atlantic Division rivals, and their penalty kill has shut down the opposition on 22 consecutive chances. Sound like a familiar formula for success? (Last week: 3-0-1)
Last Week: 5
Pittsburgh Penguins (11-6-0)The offense is in a slump, with just two goals during the last two games, but getting James Neal and Beau Bennett back from lengthy stints on the IR should help. Both returned to action in Saturday's spirited loss to the Blues, but need a bit of time to get back to full speed. (Last week: 0-2-0)
Last Week: 14
Los Angeles Kings (11-6-0)Jonathan Quick rebounded nicely from a pair of lousy performances, shutting out the Sabres and limiting the Canucks to one goal on 26 shots. He should be able to keep the mojo going with L.A. playing four on the road against the East this week. (Last week: 2-0-0)
Last Week: 10
Vancouver Canucks (11-7-2)If the Canucks could have picked only one team to beat during last week's four-game road swing, it probably would have been the Sharks. San Jose had tormented Vancouver, winning nine straight, but even the thrill of the Canucks' 4-2 win was dampened by dropping two very winnable games against the Kings and Ducks. (Last week: 1-2-1)
Last Week: 18
New York Rangers (9-8-0)With six wins in their last seven games, it looks like the Rangers have put their brutal start to the season behind them. Defense has been the key. Before coughing up three to the woeful Panthers on Sunday, the Blueshirts had held the opposition to two goals or fewer in nine straight. (Last week: 3-0-0)
Last Week: 11
Toronto Maple Leafs (11-6-0)Maybe James van Riemsdyk will grow into the top line center job in time, but right now the Leafs are really feeling the loss of their top two pivots. They've scored just twice in regulation during the past three games. They could really use something from David Clarkson, who has just one assist through six games. (Last week: 1-1-0)
Last Week: 21
Dallas Stars (8-7-2)After sweeping their three-game Eastern swing in dramatic fashion, the Stars probably didn't mind seeing the American Airlines Center filled with hordes of red-clad Chicago fans for their "homecoming" on Saturday. The road magic didn't follow them back to Dallas, but they showed enough to suggest they're on the right track. (Last week: 2-0-1)
Last Week: 12
Detroit Red Wings (9-5-4)It's hard to remember the last time a Red Wings team looked this out of sorts. They've lost five straight at home, dropping each of the last three in the dying seconds of overtime. Poor puck decisions are under the spotlight, but the offense needs to start chipping in as well. The power play is on a brutal 1-of-18 skid. (Last week: 0-0-2)
Last Week: 15
Nashville Predators (8-7-2)Being shut out in two straight is the least of Nashville's problems right now. A team that's always prided itself on defensive integrity has allowed 28 goals against over the past five games, and rookie goaltender Carter Hutton is in over his head (3.53 GAA, .887 save percentage). With Pekka Rinne out indefinitely, the lack of depth in net is killing them. (Last week: 1-2-0)
Last Week: 17
Washington Capitals (9-8-1)As Katie Carerra of the Washington Post noted, the Caps lead the league in two categories: the power play and coughing up momentum-killing goals. Washington has allowed the opposition to rally within two minutes of a Capitals goal in eight of 18 games. The inability to shut 'em down cost them another contest on Sunday. (Last week: 2-2-0)
Last Week: 24
Ottawa Senators (7-6-4)It's probably too soon to say the Sens have turned the corner, but three wins are three wins. The defense is finding its way, reducing both shots and chances. The big story though is the development of Kyle Turris, who looks more and more like a legitimate No. 1 center. (Last week: 3-0-0)
Last Week: 16
Montreal Canadiens (9-8-1)The Habs snapped a four-game winless streak by knocking off the struggling Isles on Sunday, but that wasn't the best news of the week. They should get both Daniel Briere and Alexei Emelin back in the lineup in the coming days. Neither are gamebreakers, but both could help even out what's been and up-and-down start for Les Glorieux. (Last week: 1-1-1)
Last Week: 23
Winnipeg Jets (8-9-2)21. Winnipeg Jets: (8-9-2) Forget about the Evander Kane healthy scratch. Back-to-back wins for the first time since the season's opening pair have the Jets feeling good about themselves, especially since they scored nine goals in the process. Now if they could do something about the league's worst power play... (Last week: 2-1-0)
Last Week: 20
Columbus Blue Jackets (6-10-0)Was Saturday's win over the Isles a turning point? Probably best not to get too excited -- they've owned the Isles, going 11-1-4 against them all-time -- but there was lots to like in the game, including a newly formed and very effective first line and a strong effort from Sergei Bobrovsky. A few more nights like that and the Jackets are right back in it. (Last week: 1-2-0)
Last Week: 26
Carolina Hurricanes (6-7-4)The 'Canes managed to gut out a couple of wins, thanks mostly to some strong play from third stringer Justin Peters, who's handled 77 of the last 80 shots he's faced. He's had to be big considering how little support he's getting from the league's 28th ranked offense. Carolina hasn't generated more than two goals in its last eight games. (Last week: 2-0-1)
Last Week: 27
New Jersey Devils (5-7-5)They looked like the Devils of old last week, limiting their opponents to a single goal over three games. Martin Brodeur earned a pair of shutouts to run his career total to 123, and he probably hasn't had too many easier than these. He faced just 37 shots combined from the Flyers and Preds, a real testament to the defense in front of him. (Last week: 2-0-1)
Last Week: 19
New York Islanders (6-9-3)It was a lost week for the Isles, who dropped four straight on the road. The 30th-ranked penalty kill was at the root of three of those losses, allowing eight goals, including four on six chances to the Caps. That unit is just giving games away. (Last week: 0-4-0)
Last Week: 22
Calgary Flames (6-9-2)You can't say the Flames aren't busting their humps (well, other than Sven Baertschi), but you can't ignore that they've dropped five of six, either. At least GM Jay Feaster got a win, snatching Ladislav Smid away from the Oilers. Smid will toughen up their back end. (Last week: 0-3-0)
Last Week: 28
Philadelphia Flyers (5-10-1)Just in case anyone got worked up by Saturday's meaningless win over Edmonton, a reminder: The Flyers' offense is on pace to set a new standard in futility, averaging 1.62 goals per game. The previous franchise-low: 2.29 in 1968-69. But hey, Claude Giroux's off the schneid! (Last week: 1-0-1)
Last Week: 25
Florida Panthers (3-11-4)Two games, two losses. So much for the new-coach bump. Swapping out Kevin Dineen for Peter Horachek is a classic deck chair shuffle that does nothing to address the team's real problem: a paucity of talent. The pressure's now squarely on GM Dale Tallon to fix that. (Last week: 0-3-1)
Last Week: 29
Edmonton Oilers (4-13-2)So, wait...is this rock bottom? They wish. Losers of eight of their last nine games, the Oilers are playing like a bullied school kids awaiting deliverance of the next atomic wedgie. Trading Ladislav Smid -- one of the few hard-working leaders in the room -- to make space for loose cannon Ilya Bryzgalov is an act of sheer desperation. (Last week: 1-3-0)
Last Week: 30
Buffalo Sabres (3-15-1)Any boost to this team's self esteem arising from Buffalo's shootout win in San Jose evaporated with a pair of no-show losses to the Kings and Ducks. "That was a disaster to be a part of," said goalie Ryan Miller, inexplicably using the past tense. (Last week: 1-2-0)


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Oh thanks man! I appreciate that.
Yep yep, thanks for the heads up. And uh. My and Sri poll in the wRHG section is up.
Ahh. Good point. Noah's gonna meet up Seumas again once he reaches the edge of the forest. I'll have him tell Noah then.
I thought you already got itttttt?
If you wanna chat on there, I'll be on there in a minute.
Ah, good on you for noticing that. Add those as well.
Yeah, and I added stuff to the first post about abilities if you want a bit more detail.
Good points, I'll try and be more clear with my clarifications.
1. Should've said at the beginning or before the RP, but you can have up to two set skills.
2. These skills pertain to your class.
3. If your class' weapon has an extra ability, like flame damage. In the preferred weapon section, this does not count as a skill. (f.e: Xyskal's ammo types.)
4. As you progress and level up, your skills will level up with you, getting stronger.
And lastly, I'll have to talk to Tek about his, if they aren't making sense I'll have to make sure he gets that fixed.
Can't really blame him though, we were all newbies once.
Oh boy, sorry man, probably should've clarified this early on. But as you quote on quote "level up", you can create a skill that pertains to your class/sub-class and have a max of two. That sum it up? I'll make a post about it to clarify, but if you have any other questions. Just post on VM.
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