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Highways in Greece
Highways in Greece are generally organized so that the odd numbered highways are of north-south alignment and even numbered highways are of east-west alignment. However, there are many exceptions.
The designation of some important roads of Greece as "national" was decided by a 1955 decree, while a minister's decision in 1963 determined the numbering of these roads. In 1998, a survey of the Hellenic Statistical Authority defined some new national roads that were constructed after the 1963 decision. Furthermore, motorway numbers in Greece are different and irrelevant to other highways' numbers. For example, Motorway 6 (A6) refers to the Attiki Odos motorway, while "GR-6" refers to a different road.
- 1 Motorways
- 2 Motorroads
- 3 National roads
- 4 Current construction projects in Greece
- 5 Correlation with European routes
- 6 See also
- 7 References
- 8 External links
Greece's motorway network has been extensively modernised throughout the 2000s and part of it is still under construction. Most of it was completed by early 2017. There are a total of 10 main routes throughout the Greek mainland and Crete, from which some feature numerous branches/auxiliary routes, as described in the listing below.
Motorway 1 (A1), colloquially referred to as the PAThE motorway (derived from the initials of the route: Piraeus – Athens – Thessaloniki – Evzoni (the border crossing with the Republic of Macedonia)); is the oldest and most important motorway of Greece, connecting the country's largest cities, Athens and Thessaloniki and passing through many important regions of Greece on a south-north direction. Most of the route has been upgraded to motorway standards, expept for some kilometres between Halastra and Polykastro.
As of summer 2008, works were in progress around the Malian Gulf, due to be completed in 2010. Most of the route around the bay, was completed in April 2008, but due to delays, the last part (the 17 km Stylida-Karavomylos bypass) was finally given to traffic on March 16, 2015. At Tempe valley, works started in 2008, in order to be completed around 2012, but due to severe delays they were completed in April 2017. This part includes 11 km of tunnels, made mostly for environmental protection and, of course, road safety. Furthermore, the section between Thessaloniki and Evzoni, is yet to be converted into motorway, but this is not planned to happen in the near future.
The full length of this motorway is around 553 km or 346 miles, including 14 km or 8.7 miles of shared route with the A2 (Egnatia Odos). Note that until recently, the "P" in "PAThE" referred to Patras, but the Patra – Athens section has now become part of the A8 (Olympia Odos) motorway, belonging to a different project.[1][2]
- Motorway 11 (A11) is a branch of the A1, connecting it with the city of Chalcis.
- Motorway 12 (A12) is another branch of the A1, connecting it with the city of Volos, and serving as a bypass for the city. Although it is a dual carriageway throughout its length, parts of it remain with traffic lights and not all sections of the branch are up to motorway standards. Ongoing construction has been happening to upgrade it to such. It also includes a tunnel near the village of Goritsa.
- Motorway 13 (A13) is a planned branch of the A1, from Thiva to Elefsina; connecting it with the Olympia Odos motorway and serving as a western bypass of Athens' Metropolitan Area.
A2 (Egnatia Odos)[edit]
Motorway 2 (A2), colloquially referred to as the Egnatia Odos, is a new motorway starting at the port of Igoumenitsa and ending at the Turkish border crossing in Evros.
The Egnatia Odos is also known as the "horizontal road axis" of Greece, connecting almost all of Northern Greece from west to east; and provides access to various other locations, as well as international borders with various "vertical routes" that begin from various locations along the A2.
Specifically, there are auxiliary routes to Albania and Bulgaria, with the main route leading to Turkey. The Republic of Macedonia is accessed through the A1 (PAThE), as described above. Another auxiliary route runs close to the Evros river in the prefecture of the same name, reaching a point where Greece's, Turkey's and Bulgaria's borders meet. Some of those auxiliary routes are not motorways, but typical 2-lane highways, but are of considerable higher quality than other similar highways in the rest of Greece. The project (including most of the auxiliary routes), was completed in 2009, with the length of the main route being 670 kilometres or 416 miles, making it the longest motorway in Greece.
- Motorway 21 (A21) is a branch of the A2 (Egnatia Odos) and connects Egnatia Odos at the town of Ardanio (near the Greek-Turkish border) with the Greek-Bulgarian border at Ormenio
- Motorway 25 (A25) is a branch of the A2 (Egnatia Odos) and lies between Thessaloniki to the Greek–Bulgarian border crossing, via Serres (taking over parts of the GR-12); and between Thessaloniki towards Nea Moudania, referred to in this part of its section as the Thessaloniki – Nea Moudania Motorway or Chalkidiki Motorway. As it passes through the eastern periphery of Thessaloniki the A25 becomes part of the Thessaloniki Inner Ring Road (Esoteriki Peripheriaki Odos, Greek: Εσωτερική Περιφεριακή Οδός).
- Motorway 27 (A27) is another branch of the A2 (Egnatia Odos), at Kozani which leads towards Ptolemaida and from there to Florina and the border crossing with the Republic of Macedonia. Within 2012 tenders were announced for the construction of the 14 kilometres section from Florina up to the border crossing with the Republic of Macedonia. Construction started in 2013, finished in 2015 and it as opened to traffic in 20 May 2016. The Ptolemaida - Florina part is an expressway.
- Motorway 29 (A29) is a branch of the A2 (Egnatia Odos) motorway, connecting it with the city of Kastoria and the Greek–Albanian border crossing at Krystallopigi.
Motorway 3 (A3), or the Central Greece Motorway is currently under construction starting from Lamia (at the A1) and ending at the A2 (Egnatia Odos), close to Grevena. It will be part of the E65 and be 175 kilometres or 109 miles long.[1][2] Construction started on June 2007. Work was halted in 2011 due to economic problems of the construction companies but resumed in mid-2013. The motorway is expected to be completed early 2016 but construction date of the part from Kalampaka to the Egnatia Odos junction is yet unknown.[3]
A5 (Ionia Odos)[edit]
Motorway 5 (A5), also referred to as the Ionia Odos, is another motorway currently under construction. It starts from Ioannina at the A2 (Egnatia Odos) interchange, and ends at Rio, in Patras, after crossing the Corinthian Gulf through the Rio-Antirrio bridge. There, it connects to the A8 motorway (see below).
The route passes through most of western continental Greece, along the Ionian Sea, hence its name "Ionia Odos". Work on the majority of the highway began in spring 2006 and would span six years, to be completed by 2012. Though, because of economical problems of the constructing companies, all construction works were halted in 2011, but since mid-2013 works on the whole of the 196 km motorway are undergoing. Completion of the motorway is expected by 2017. Completed parts include the Arta and the Agrinio bypasses with lengths of 33 km and 17 km respectively, as well as the 25 km segment bypassing Amfilochia, which was opened to traffic in 27 December 2016,[4] and the Gavrolimni - Kefalovryso segment (38 km). These, together with the Agrinio bypass, create a contiguous motorway with a length of 97 km.[1][2]
- Motorway 52 (A52) is a branch of the A5 (Ionia Odos) connecting it with the island of Lefkada and the undersea-tunnel of Aktio, leading to Preveza. This motorway section is expected to serve the popular tourist region around the Ambracian Gulf. At 48.6 km (30.2 mi) long, the motorway was expected to finish in 2012, having started construction in 2009. Earthworks were largely completed by April 2012 but structures had not commenced as of that time. In mid-2013, works had begun again, but as of December 2016, problems with funding have kept the road largely behind scedule. The road is now expected to be completed by 2020.
A6 (Attiki Odos)[edit]
Motorway 6 (A6), or Attiki Odos forms part of the urban motorway network of Athens's metropolitan area. Its full length is 65 kilometres (40 mi) and it is also planned to be extended to various directions, bringing its total length to 141 km (88 mi). The Attiki Odos has various auxiliary routes, namely the Aigaleo Beltway (A65) and the Hymettus Beltway (A64), serving parts of western and eastern Athens respectively; while the 6 km (4 mi) section leading from the main route to the Athens International Airport is numbered as the A62.
- Motorway 62 (A62) is a section of the Attiki Odos which branches off at the end of the main A6 route. It basically serves as a corridor from Attiki Odos and Koropi towards the Athens International Airport.
- Motorway 64 (A64) is a section of the Attiki Odos which branches off the main A6 route. It is referred to as the Hymettus Beltway (A64) (Greek: Περιφερειακή Υμηττού), serving parts of eastern Athens, while it is also expected to be extended further southwards to Vouliagmeni and further eastwards towards Rafina.
- Motorway 65 (A65) is a second auxiliary route that branches off the main A6 route. The A64 section of the Attiki Odos is referred to as the Aigaleo Beltway (A65) (Greek: Περιφερειακή Αιγάλεω) and serves parts of western Athens. A small part of the A65 remains still unconstructed, and it is yet unknown when it will be completed.[1][2]
- Motorway 642 (A642) is a small branch of Attiki Odos which connects Attiki Odos with Hymettus Beltway. It serves as a small detour of the main route and its length is 2 km.
A7 (Moreas)[edit]
Motorway 7 (A7), known as the Moreas Motorway or Eastern Peloponnese motorway starts from Corinth, at the interchange with the A8 (Olympia Odos) and continues to Kalamata, passing through Tripoli. It replaced the old GR-7 as the main road, with the section between Corinth and Tripoli, constructed between 1984 and 1990 and officially becoming part of the Greek road network in 1992.
The A7 has recently undergone extensive improvement to full motorway standards. As of December 2012, the motorway section between Corinth and Kalamata is fully constructed and operational. Its total length is 205 kilometres or 127 miles.[1][2]
- Motorway 71 (A71) is a branch of the A7 (Moreas) motorway from Lefktro, connecting it with Sparta. It was opened in 18 April 2016.
A8 (Olympia Odos)[edit]
Motorway 8 (A8), referred to as the Olympia Odos, is the motorway under construction, from Athens to Patras. It begins in Elefsina, at the interchange with A6 (Attiki Odos) and will end in Patras.
The Elefsina–Corinth section has been completed to motorway standards, while the Corinth – Patras section begun construction in 2008, and was due to be completed in 2012. After construction works had begun again the whole motorway will be completed by late-2016 or early-2017. It will mostly include the widening and general reconstruction of the GR-8A along with some new tunnels and bridges.[1][2]
Motorway 90 (A90) is a temporary name for a motorway under construction in Crete. It is more widely known as North Road Axis of Crete (Greek: Βόρειος Οδικός Άξονας Κρήτης, BOAK) and is Greece's only motorway that is not on its mainland, but on an island. Certain parts have already been completed, as of summer 2007, at Heraklion and Chania. In late 2014, the Agios Nikolaos - Kalo Chorio part (which also serves as a bypass of Agios Nikolaos) was opened to traffic. Its full length will be 310 kilometres or 193 miles. Other sources claim it to be 250 km or 156 mi.[1][2]
List of motorways[edit]
- Motorways
- Motorways under construction
|Kallithea - Kalambaka – Trikala – Karditsa − Lamia
|Ioannina - Filippiada − Arta − Amfilochia − Kouvaras - Agrinio − Aitoliko − Mesolongi − Rio–Antirrio bridge − Rio
|Eleusis - Megara - Corinth - Zevgolateio - Kiato - Xylokastro - Aigio – Rio
|Preveza - Vonitsa - Amfilochia
- Planned motorways
|Velestino - Volos
|Thiva - Eleusis
|Angelokastro - Agrinio - Fragkista - Karpenisi - Leianokladi - Lamia
|spur to Alexandroupoli Centre
|Feres - Didymoteicho - Orestiada - Ormenio - Bulgaria
|Serres - Nea Zichni - Kavala
|Ilioupoli - Paiania
|spur to Northern Thessaloniki
|Planned upgrade of the western Thessaloniki Inner Ring Road
The Motor-Roads in Greece constructed in Regions how connected Motorways or other Main-Roads. The most Motor-Roads constructed in the Regions of Athens and Thessaloniki. A lot Motor-Roads constructed by the Egnatia A.E. and connected the A2 with other Roads and Regions. All the Greek motorroads more detail in the list:
|Edessa - Skydra - Giannitsa - Gefyra (Junction with ) - Thessaloniki
|Elassona - Tsiritsani - Tyrnavos - Larissa
|- Veria - Naoussa - Edessa
|Trikala - Larissa
|Neo Monastiri - Karditsa - Trikala
|Thessaloniki - Liti (Junction with ) - Kilkis - Doirani
|- Neos Kavouras - Keratea - Lavrio
|Andrea Syngrou Avenue
National roads[edit]
- Additional National Roads according to the register of the National Roads 1998
|Greek National Road 8A: Athens – Corinth – Patras new road (partly motorway)
|Greek National Road 16A: Greek National Road 16 – Polygyros
|Greek National Road 34A: Volos – Portaria - Horefto
|Greek National Road 111: Agia Triada – Lambia - Lalas - Ancient Olympia
Current construction projects in Greece[edit]
Currently, there are several construction projects all over Greece.
- Olympia Odos, Central Greece Motorway and Ionia Odos are all expected to be finished in mid-2017 at a cost of 2,2 bn euros, 1,4 bn euros and 1,118 bn euros respectively.
- Moreas Motorway was completed in November 2016, costing a total of 1 bn euros.
- Motorway 1 (Greece) will open in 2017, costing 1,3 bn euros. The final construction point is at the Tempe Valley.
- Motorway 25 (Greece) will open in 2016 or 2017, costing 147 million euros.
Correlation with European routes[edit]
This is a list of European routes that shows which parts of them run through Greece.
Major routes:
|Preveza – Rio - – Patras - - Pyrgos - – Kalamata
|Medžitlija-Níki (border with the Republic of Macedonia) – Florina – Florina – Kozani - Kozani – Elassona – Larissa – Lamia - Amfissa – Galaxidi - Galaxidi – Antirio - Rio – Corinth - Corinth – Kalamata - Kissamos – Chania
|border with the Republic of Macedonia – Thessaloniki – Athens - Chania – Aghios Nikolaos (will be replaced by )
|Bulgarian border – Serres through GR-57, Serres – Thessaloniki
|Greek National Road 51
|Albanian border at Kristalopigi – Florina – Edessa – Giannitsa – Gefyra (west of Thessaloniki)
|Egnatia Odos or Via Egnatia, Igoumenitsa - Thessaloniki - border with Turkey
|Greek National Road 6 (will be replaced by )
|Attiki Odos - Athens – Corinth
Other routes:
|Kakavia (Albanian border) -
|Greek National Road 5 (will be replaced by )
|Preveza-Amfilochia - Karpenisi – Lamia
|Greek National Road 39
|Elefsina – Thiva (will be replaced by )
Note: When certain highways that carry European routes are replaced with motorways, the European routes will be reassigned to the new motorways. For example, GR-7 carried the E65 from Tripoli to Kalamata. When the Corinth – Tripoli – Kalamata motorway was completed, the E65 numbering was reassigned to it.


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Ok, before the comments start I know he is in the TV universe and the game is set in the comic!!!!!! What I am saying is that he is an amazing character. Why all the hate? I like to think that Daryl is so where in the comic verse. He never met Ricks group and him and. Merle are on the road. Imagine Clem being badass with Daryl!
no no no no...................no. I love the tv show and I love Daryl's character but they should stay as separate as possible. Plus what would be the point of having him in the game? because you know he won't be killed
Might want to spoiler tag that.. not everyone has watched the show yet. For example, I haven't... but definitely plan to.
Dale died over two years ago. That's well past the expiration for needing spoiler tags for TV shows.
Yeah, I bet its pretty easy to say that having already watched it. Its still not fair to the people that plan on watching in the future.
I still hear of people starting to watch the walking dead all the time. It's a series that is still growing in popularity. I didn't get into TWD universe until a little over a month ago. Just because you're up to date on the show doesn't mean everyone else should be. There are a ton of people out there that are just getting into it. Taking 2.2 seconds to spoiler tag something isn't going to kill you.
they only killed him off cause the actor who played dale was good friends with the show writer that amc kicked off (can't remember his name) people who read the comics knew dale was gonna die just not that early
I don't hate Daryl, but I would hate it if he was included in the game. He'd take out the immersion. Not to mention he'd also be immune to any mortal danger. Plus, it wouldn't work due to the timeline anyways. I'm pretty sure Telltale's version is ahead in the apocalypse compared to where the show is at the moment. In addition, they'd probably have to pay royalties for them to include him.
Aaand don't forget about this:
His character already had his chance. Unfortunately, AMC and Activision blew it.
Yes? I know that. I was only pointing out that the game is ahead time wise. So unless for some reason AMC wanted to potentially spoil parts or the whole of Daryl's fate that lies in the future by pushing him into Telltale's version, it wouldn't work no matter how you spin it. At least not logically.
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Daryl should stay in the show in my opinion, I'm not saying he's a horrible character or anything but he already had his own game and it's time to give Telltale their own shot. Besides, at this time Merle would be dead, Daryl would be with Rick's group.
"at this time Merle would be dead, Daryl would be with Rick's group."
Yes, but you're talking about the TV universe. In the comic (and therefore game) universe, Daryl and Merle never met Rick's group, and who knows if Merle is dead; or if Daryl is dead, or whether they were either ever born... But anyway, it wouldn't break any continuity if Daryl met Clementine. Not saying he necessarily should though....
no he is nowhere in the comic universe I am pretty sure kirkman said that himself but don't take my word for it but daryl being in the game is a very bad idea no one wants it, kirkman does not want it and I bet telltale does not want it either this is you second thread if I remember correctly no one wants daryl in the game or comic you want a game with daryl? go play that piece of shit survival instinct
No, I like Daryl, but he should remain in the show and only the show. Plus, TTG already gave us a badass crossbow wielder with a heart of gold. His name was Pete. RIP you magnificent man.
Pete, why the hell did you have to die so early?! As our good friend Morgan said, " People like you, the good people, they always die. The bad people die, too. But the weak people, the people like me, we have inherited the earth."
Imagine Clem being badass with Daryl!
No.... My Clem will hit him with so much sass making him wish he was dead.
Seriously though, no, it won't happen. And please stop making threads about it....?
This madness needs to end...
Daryl is one of my favorite characters in the TV Series. That said, the TV series is where Daryl should stay...not in the comics and DEFINITELY not in the game. The community will never warm up to this idea. It doesn't matter how many times you attempt to pitch it, or in what way.
If you want Daryl in the game so badly, write a crossover fanfic or something. Nobody is stopping you.
The reason its a bad idea is because Daryl is just too cool for this setting, everyone in the game have their pros and cons but Daryl is pretty much flawless.


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Awesome! Hoping for some form of reciprocity...
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MADISON, Wis. -- Lawmakers in Wisconsin, one of the last states to prohibit the carrying of concealed weapons, approved lifting the ban Tuesday and sent Republican Gov. Scott Walker a measure he is expected to quickly sign into law.
Let's hope the Gov. signs it.
It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. - David Hume
Awesome! Hoping for some form of reciprocity...
Ditto. I didn't see anything in the article about reciprocity, but I'm sure the folks at handgunlaws will be on top of things. Minneapolis being so close to WI, I need to know where we're riding BEFORE we ride, so I can carry or not. I would rather just carry.
It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. - David Hume
From what I've seen and heard the governor said he would sign it if it made it to his desk. Of course he is a politician, so you never know what he'll do.
Freedom doesn't come free. It is bought and paid for by the lives and blood of our men and women in uniform.
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And some in WI still don't, won't ever get it.
Concealed Carry a Hollow Victory
Fun to read the comments, most seem to be taking the author to task, quite firmly.
When will the anti's ever understand, there will not be blood running in the streets when CCW becomes the law.
The only common sense gun legislation was written about 226 years ago.
I carry always not because I go places trouble is likely, but because trouble has a habit of not staying in its assigned zone.
In some ways it's a better law than MN- no training requirement, state shall issue, and will have reciprocity with any state that includes a background check as part of the permitting. Now we just have to wait until next year for it to go into effect!
An enemy of liberty is no friend of mine. I do not owe respect to anyone who would enslave me by government force, nor is it wise for such a person to expect it. -- Isaiah Amberay
It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. - David Hume
As a Wis resident i feel compelled to toss in my 2cents. since we call ourselves the "progressive state" all the attention this has generated has been extremely emabarassing, second to last place in the big race. Eugene Kane and his friends has been dodging bullets in there neighborhoods all their lives, alot of help they've gotten from that eastern lib Ed Flynn. thanks MN for your support in this issue, you guys have been friendly rivals in sports. you have a beautiful state to visit, and in my trips there i haven't felt inimidated by gun toting "Gophers". my relatives who reside there have not been shot full of holes, so all is good in Minn. good luck on the reciprocity though, we still have along way to go with our liberal media here.
There is a training requirement. The qualifications have been a bit varied, so until the bill is passed I'm waiting to see the finalized eligibility requirements. I know that hunters safety certificate was one of the qualifiers throughout all of the variants discussed. I also believe former LEOs are pre-qualified.
Basically, if you were born after the date that grandfathers you in for a hunters education certificate and have completed the course you are good to go. You will need your card on hand to fill out the paperwork. If you have lost it, or yours was as cheap as mine was and fell apart, you can get one re-printed from your local DNR office, or go on-line and pay to download one that you can print out. Which is what I did. It cost me $3.75 to print out a new card, and I have the PDF file saved so I can print it out again as needed.
Although training is important, I do not think it should be required.
It's RKBA, not RKBA(With Training).OMOYMV
Go WI!
Proverbs 27:12 says: The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
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I'll add that Wisconsin is also a nice state. I manage to drive through every couple of years to visit relatives in Minnesota. As another Wisconsin neighbor I can tell you that the streets in Michigan are not running red with blood.
I would not be nervous being in a room full of gun toting Gophers, or gun toting cheese heads! Get out there and get your training requirements met and then you only have a four month wait before you can do your Wally World Walk.
It sounds very good! Illinois will be the only state that does not allow a private citizen to carry a a handgun
"The weapons would be barred anywhere within 1,000 feet of school grounds, police stations, jails and prisons, courthouses, secure mental health facilities, and beyond airport security checkpoints."
I hope they do not add more places to that list.
"The Second Amendment: America's Original Homeland Security"
RKBA = right to keep and bear arms
OMO = only my opinion
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He fled from the hall when the briefing was over, desperate for the sanctuary of his own quarters. No sooner than he was inside the door, he began to tear at the snaps of his uniform jacket, stripping it off as though he feared it would strangle him.
It wasn't that he cared so much about the Empire-- the Empire be damned. It was about him, his place in this world. He was one of a dying breed, one of the few Seers left advising the military. Yet, for all of his visions, all of his divine guidance--
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WILMINGTON, Mass. -- The Boston Bruins have been on a roll of late, earning 10 of a possible 12 points in the past six games. With the team's success and a congested schedule of games since Dec. 1, coach Claude Julien gave his players a few days off.
The Bruins were back on the practice ice at Ristuccia Arena on Tuesday morning in preparation for a pair of tough divisional road games against the Buffalo Sabres and Montreal Canadiens on Wednesday and Thursday.
"They look like they have lots of energy, and sometimes a couple of days off is good for you," Julien said.
The Bruins players were freed of their hockey duties the past couple of days as the team participated in its annual Christmas gift-buying spree for children in area hospitals.
"It's been a pretty heavy schedule for a lot of teams around the league, and this was an opportunity to keep them off the ice for a little bit," Julien said. "Even though they didn't skate, it doesn't mean they didn't work out. They were able to clear their heads a little bit and get ready for a big week. It was a move that we felt we needed to make with this team."
Julien also was quick to point out that playing a lot of games in a short period of time can help a team, especially one that's winning.
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It has.
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May 3, 2012 at 9:27 am #1289496
Nathan HaysMember
@oroambulantLocale: San Francisco
Introducing more people to backpacking is enlightening to society. However, it has a negative impact on the wilderness. I am conflicted. I really like getting off trail, just my wife and I alone for miles. I am jealous of that experience and don't want to see it crowded out. On the other hand, I think society is rather imbalanced and does not do well at raising children to be aware of our impact on the planet. Backpacking is life changing in that regard.
How do you feel about bringing more people into the wilderness?May 3, 2012 at 9:39 am #1873951
Stephen BarberBPL Member
@grampaLocale: SoCal
I feel the same conflict.
In order to have the political power to save wilderness areas, we need more and more people to have a personal investment in the wilderness. but more people with a personal investment in the wilderness means more folks in my favorite backpacking areas. And there already are too many areas I won't go to because of the crowded conditions.
I don't see any way out of this dilemma.May 3, 2012 at 10:26 am #1873972
Elliott WolinBPL Member
@ewolinLocale: Hampton Roads, Virginia
An emphatic YES!
The only way to stop the relentless, often short-sighted profit-motivated pressure to develop every square inch of our wild areas is to have vastly more people on our side (you need vastly more because the other side has vastly more money and power). Fewer backpackers (and fishermen, etc.) may mean better experiences for us, but less for our descendants. The solution to overcrowded backcountry areas is more protected backcountry areas, not fewer people.May 3, 2012 at 11:02 am #1873984
John DoeBPL Member
The planet is here for our enjoyment and it'll still be here long after you've taken your last breath. Don't exaggerate your impact and just enjoy it.May 3, 2012 at 11:04 am #1873985
David DrakeBPL Member
@daviddrakeLocale: North Idaho
Seems I've read interest in backpacking has actually declined since the 70s and 80s, although this may be as percentage of population, rather than absolute numbers.
Regardless, in my view the primary importance of wilderness isn't scenic beauty (in our eyes) or opportunities for (human) solitude. I love those aspects of wilderness, but the way large tracts of roadless wilderness work as functioning ecologies is a lot more important (wildlife migration routes, plant and animal habitat, clean watersheds, etc).
What we really need are *more* wild lands and roadless areas, and we should be pushing for that, rather than (implicity) accepting the wilderness we have now is all we're ever going to get, and then trying to ration human traffic there.
We should be looking at abandoned rural and rural/industrial land (eg, areas once used for mining, power production, logging, ranching etc) as candidates for new roadless wilderness. Here in the West, there are a lot of small towns that won't exist in a few decades, and extractive industries that have declined and will continue to decline. Wilderness areas created from former settlement won't be the same as that enshrined in the Wilderness Act of 1964 ("…an area where the earth and its community of life are untrammeled by man, where man himself is a visitor who does not remain..") but that ideal was largely a myth anyway.
One of the wilderness areas I'm fond of (Hells Canyon) had a much larger human population 50 or 100 years ago than today. The remnants of past settlement are an interesting part of the human experience backpacking there. Plenty of other areas have the same potential.
Dave Foreman's _Rewilding North America_ lays out a pretty interesting vision for the future of wilderness, and the necessity for functioning and connected ecosystems, not just scenic parkland. Roderick Nash's _Wilderness and the American Mind_ is also very good, particularly for showing how American attitudes toward wilderness have changed over the past couple hundred years.May 3, 2012 at 6:09 pm #1874150
Paul WagnerBPL Member
@balzaccomLocale: Wine Country
What elliot said.
Every person in the backcountry is a voter who can help move this country towards a more respectful policy. We need as many as we can get!May 3, 2012 at 6:45 pm #1874155
Daniel CoxBPL Member
@cohikerLocale: San Isabel NF
Backpackers, yes for the most part.
Campers, no.
I've seen a lot of negative impact in the last 7 years living here in CO. Most of it is due to irresponsible campers of the vehicle persuasion. This extends to people buying a 90L backpack at REI and drag 40 lbs of junk 3 miles from the car, build a bonfire, and pee in the stream.
I'm all for people getting outdoors to appreciate nature. But appreciate it, not trample it.May 3, 2012 at 6:54 pm #1874156
Luke SchmidtSpectator
@cameronLocale: Idaho Falls
Its public land so its use will be determined ultimately by what the public demands. More backpackers mean more people who prioritize wilderness preservation over logging or cutting new ATV trails.May 4, 2012 at 12:16 am #1874242
Brian LewisMember
@brianleLocale: Pacific NW
Most trails are quite empty most of the time; I think we get the sense that trails are crowded when we leave our city and go to a relatively close trailhead on a sunny summer weekend. Hike less popular trails or hike at less popular times, or even go where there aren't trails and … no worries.
I don't mean to be completely flip here, I do understand that most people are constrained in when and where they can go for the most part. But for someone who can think and act a little out of the box, the crowds really aren't that hard to beat. And I'm very much in favor of introducing more people to the backcountry, if for nothing else than in the hope of creating more advocates who appreciate and want to preserve what we've got.May 4, 2012 at 6:55 am #1874298
James MarcoBPL Member
@jamesdmarcoLocale: Finger Lakes
Yeah, I pretty much agree with Brian. Pushing for more people in the back country has good and bad points. Pushing for more education about the back country, well, education is ALWAYS good.
Conservation? Preservation? For what? I question whether we can support the number of people in one city in the back country. But, keeping what we have is essential. And keeping it wild is also esential. We think we know about the ecology? Not true. We are only *just* recognizing that people are a PART of the ecology…well within the last 50 or so years. Perhaps the last couple hundred years counting Darwin. Perhaps the past couple of thousand years counting the clasical Greeks. At the forfront of that effort is the thousands of people, like Brian, that simply want to go out there and see. A true scientist does not *expect* anything. Observation is the first step. The past few years shows we are starting to be aware of this. Hikers simply observe, without changing. Though, some will argue that the act of observation will effect the observed. Communicating those changes has always been difficult, till twenty or thirty years ago. This will fade into the fabric of people.
Change happens regardless, soo, we can simply maintain a foot hold on the wild. A few, a very few, will venture beyond the beaten path and look deeper. What do we do when oil runs out? What do we do when mines run out? What do we do when water runs out? When a rock drops on my head? People will change. The beaten path for most…the trailess wilderness for a few. This echo's down through the centuries to the beginnings of life. This seems to be an essential part of being. People are a part of the widerness whether they ever visit it or not. Maintain what you can, educate when you can and simply hike on…May 4, 2012 at 3:46 pm #1874475
Roger CaffinModerator
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Hi Elliot
> The solution to overcrowded backcountry areas is more protected backcountry areas,
> not fewer people.
A good thought.
CheersMay 5, 2012 at 10:17 am #1874662
Sean HeenanMember
@roadster1Locale: Southeast mountains
While I like to see more backpackers, I also see the downside to this. Many areas are overused and many times places I go, I'm hardly alone. As it is when you leave the trailhead and hike for about 4 miles you are about to leave most of the dayhikers behind. Keep going about 10 miles and the weekend backpackers drop off after that you pretty much are on your own. That said I am also a dayhiker, a weekend backpacker, and a deep country backpacker, it is just a matter of time for all three. The weekend backpackers are really the ones who probably do the most damage because they hike into more sensative areas and there are lots of them(me included). My favorite places are also everyone elses favorite places and on some weekends the no vacany sign is on.May 5, 2012 at 10:43 am #1874668
HkNewmanBPL Member
@hknewmanLocale: Western US
Think we need to break up some roads going into the forests and parks, and turn them into trail; set the trailheads back, so the land can heal. Need to save federal money anyways, right?May 5, 2012 at 12:18 pm #1874676
Mary DBPL Member
@hikinggrannyLocale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Closing roads to trailheads and therefore restricting access is being used by the USFS in western Washington as a budget cutting measure. It seems that the budget for decomissioning roads is separate from the operating budget, and the former, unlike the latter, has plenty of funds.
The result is simply to crowd the day and weekend hikers into smaller areas, making things that much more crowded in the areas that are left!
Rather than restrict people from the back country, we instead need to accept the wear and tear close to the trailheads. The more people are restricted from the back country, the smaller the constituency we have to preserve wilderness. Do remember that the various Wilderness Acts are neither acts of God nor part of the US Constitution; they can be repealed by Congress at any time! If we close the access roads and thus restrict dayhikers, weekenders and, especially, families with young children from accessing wilderness, there will come a time when there won't be any wilderness because there will be nobody to advocate for it!May 5, 2012 at 12:29 pm #1874679
Katharina LångstrumpBPL Member
@kat_pLocale: Pacific Coast
I agree with Mary.
Also, if you live in a relatively ( !) crowded state, in a relatively crowded city and are upset if after a two hour drive and an hour of hiking you are not completely alone, then maybe you should rethink this a bit.
I live in the woods and work in the woods and spend a lot of time alone in nature; when I go backpacking I am not looking to get away from a hectic city life and I don't mind running into people that enjoy and appreciate being out in the mountains. I prefer social interactions that center around nature, versus around town stuff. If I really want to be alone there are plenty of places out there where I can still find that.
I also doubt that there will ever be too many backpackers, with the trend being more of staying indoors and watching nature on a screen while getting fat.May 5, 2012 at 12:58 pm #1874688
Nathan HaysMember
@oroambulantLocale: San Francisco
Brought my nephews up into the backcountry on a day hike. Saw rattlesnake, bear, deer. Each encounter was handled in a different way, but calmly, without fear or excitement.
I was picking up trash that others had left and one nephew chided me for touching other peoples' garbage. I muttered there were no street sweepers up here and continued.
When one had to use the nearby pit toilet, another asked what you do further in where there are none. "Dig a hole, do your business, and carry out the TP in a baggie." "Yuck!" "Well, the alternative is to have used TP blowing around and someone having to pick that up."
Understated = understood. A lesson that will percolate up in them from time to time, hopefully brewing a healthy cup of persective.May 5, 2012 at 1:28 pm #1874693
Justin BakerBPL Member
@justin_bakerLocale: Santa Rosa, CA
There are always really remote and uncrowded places to camp. They might not be as pretty or cool with massive granite peaks and rushing waterfalls.
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Somchai shrugs. "Maybe even the worst monstrosities of the Japanese live in some way. I worry that Noi and Chart and Malee and Prem have been reborn in windup bodies. Not all of us are good enough to become Contraction phii. Maybe some of us become windups, in Japanese factories, working working working,you know? We're so few in comparison to the past, where did all the sould go? Maybe to the Japanese? Maybe into windups." (173-74)
"Half a moustache suited Lord Kraven perfectly. It had, nevertheless, been a close-shave--Prince Spada's blade having nearly run him through the throat.This was one of my Christmas holiday reads, and the rollicking pace of the first part kept a smile on my face as Kraven and his companions effortlessly engaged in hyperbolic exploits: "Lord Greystoke had just returned from a difficult mission in which he had made contact with a giant gorilla on an island near Sumatra. His body was covered in bandages" (17). But while the book maintains a gleefully ironic tone, it isn't meant to be taken lightly. Before long, the heroes begin to question the ease with which they always win, but must also continue the battle. Unlike Green, Mauméjean's heroes are more self-aware, and wonder at the simplicity of their steampunk world:
The foremost hero of Albion fixed his tie, looked at himself in the mirror one last time and proceeded to shoot his attacker in the head. The bullet...continued through the wall, ricocheted against the Tower's metal frame and went on to kill Ambrosio Terracota, the Prince's henchman, splattering his brains across the floor." (9)
"Yes, of course, I always forget that we are the good guys," he said with irony. "Always ready to defeat a new threat, to foil a new convoluted plot, to stop a new would-be world conqueror. But it all sounds very hollow right now. Consider our foes...They always tell us their plans in great details after they capture us, they always make a last minute mistake which enables us to escape and defeat them... Yes, we win, but only until the next time, for they always return..." (65)Like Boilerplate, the League makes commentary on past social injustices, such as Bloody Friday in May of 1919 (which takes place in May of 1916 in the League's alternate history), the event catalyzing English Bob's departure from the League of Heroes. Finally, the only one left is Lord Kraven, and when he initiates a more global iteration of the League, is killed in an airship explosion.


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