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Apr 19, 2009 at 7:02 pm #1235712
Couple flora/fauna pics – was a good trip, though my sleepless and busy week caught up with me by dinner & I had to retire without the campfire merriment. Missed that & those who couldn't make it. Beautiful, warm & NO MOSQUITOES or TICKS!
"Harlequin Lupine." "Manyflowered Monkeyflower." Male "Greater Brown Skink" in mating coloration. Manzanita flowers, which are edible & I think pretty good. California Newt (interestingly, have seen one on each trip this year). Alligator Lizard
Apr 19, 2009 at 8:21 pm #1495514
Joshua BillingsBPL Member
@joshuaLocale: Santa Cruz,Ca
Come on Cary, don't hold out on us.Also show us some debauchery.Apr 19, 2009 at 8:30 pm #1495522
a couple of falls…
Apr 19, 2009 at 10:56 pm #1495554
Nate MeinzerMember
@rezniemLocale: San Francisco
There should be some debaucherous photos somewhere…..
waiting for Tony's (more people-centric, I presume) shots.Apr 20, 2009 at 10:28 am #1495615
I went to bed right after dinner
Dennis made some amazing chocolate mousse & also brought a box of cracker jacks for everyone
I think Jeremy & someone else brought single malt that was gladly shared
Tony collected an amazing quantity of firewood and i presume will have the human-centric pics to share :)
Lane & I brought 12 cans of micro brews, shrimps, portabella mushrooms, zucchinis, wood skewers, and 2 mini grills to share with the group – it sounded like the fire festivities went on until about midnight, but i heard no stories of drunken mayhem
I do have to thank the early arrivers for their heads-up post and PM – that got me & Lane there several hours earlier than we would have otherwise (and meant we actually got to get our permits). the extra rush, though, meant a couple things were forgotten, including my bear canister – so thank you to all the people who shared a little space for our trash & day 2 food items.
and of course big thanks to Ken for the incipient rolling of the ball on this trip!
edit: couple pics of LaneApr 20, 2009 at 10:58 am #1495623
Surprisingly, there was not too much craziness.
Ken was a bit more mellow, but probably in part because he was not feeling too well.
Cameron was the night's entertainment with his mega powered flashlight that threw a spot light on all of the campsites below us.
Not sure if anyone got a photo of me hauling wood into a good sized pile.
You have to have firewood to last at least 6 hours at base camp, right?
With all the good stuff that people brought to share, Ken and I were thinking that maybe we should do a low mileage trip where everyone brings their own dinner, but has communal food for appetizers and deserts to share.
After Jeremy, Cameron, and I returned from a short dayhike from the campsite, it was a real treat and pleasant surprise to have beer and cracker jacks….BBQ shrimps later that evening was just a dreamy treat.
I have about 300 to 350 shot to clean up and sort out.
If anyone has any photos that they would like to email to me to add into the photo essay, please PM me and I will give you my email address.
I have the newest version of Photoshop Elements, which allows me to do the auto idiot quick fixes to all of the photos in one shot vs. one at a time, which means that I should be able to get the essay up this week…depending on work and family requirements.
Again, great trip and love the photos that have been posted up thus far…keep them coming!
P.S. I will post the photo essay in the photo gallery vs. the trip report…habit I guess, I have always posted mine there.
-TonyApr 22, 2009 at 7:21 pm #1496325
I think Jeremy & I think he's recycling beer …Apr 22, 2009 at 8:07 pm #1496341
Robert BleanBPL Member
@bleanLocale: San Jose -- too far from Sierras
"meant a couple things were forgotten, including my bear canister"
I am surprised — the lady giving us our permits quizzed us about our bear cans and what make they were.Apr 22, 2009 at 8:27 pm #1496345
she wasn't at my house when i was hastily gathering my stuff before dawn that morning – i would have even let her spend the night if it would have helped, for convenience
when we got to the park, i brought it up at the kiosk & said i thought there would be room in other people's canisters since it was only one night & she said ok after asking me some other people's names & checking her list of permits issuedApr 22, 2009 at 8:31 pm #1496346
Nate MeinzerMember
@rezniemLocale: San Francisco
I'm sure your wife would've loved that, Cary.Apr 22, 2009 at 8:34 pm #1496351
but she did suggest the other night i get a girlfriend – i think she actually said "chinese girlfriend" though, and she's a stickler for precise details, so american rangerette might not flyApr 23, 2009 at 7:53 am #1496430
Robert BleanBPL Member
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"when we got to the park, i brought it up at the kiosk & said i thought there would be room in other people's canisters since it was only one night & she said ok after asking me some other people's names & checking her list of permits issued"
I am pleasantly surprised they were that reasonable.
Glad you thought of that explanation, too — obviously there would be room, since by the time you got in we would have eaten a day's food from our cans.
–MVApr 23, 2009 at 9:11 am #1496452
mind trick does work sometimes ;)Apr 24, 2009 at 8:26 am #1496700
Cayenne RedmonkBPL Member
@redmonkLocale: Greater California Ecosystem
This was a good trip, after I hiked out of hetch hetchy, I drove into the valley where there were shockingly few people. The waterfalls were awesome !
. . .Apr 24, 2009 at 11:22 am #1496743
Just wanted to let you guys know that I hope to have the photos up this weekend.
Last two days I have been busy and have not been able to get onto the computer to edit the photos.
Plus, Denis has been nice enough to mail off a cd of all the photos that he has taken, which I will review add some to the essay. Cameron has also generously allowed me to use his photos too.
I am guessing that a number of people want to see what happened and all the gear and I will be working quickly to get them up for you all.
I can tell you that I have cut the photos from 350 down to 155, but I would like to see about getting it down to 100.
Unfortunatley, the more of these that I have done and the positive feed back that I have gotten from you all seems to have made me suffer from diahrea of the mouth and the number of photos that I post become more and more.
So bear with me….will have them up soon.
-TonyApr 24, 2009 at 1:26 pm #1496782
Tony, take your time. That is alot of photos! I am sure we all are in agreement to say thanks for doing this!Apr 24, 2009 at 1:53 pm #1496791
Thanks….what I can do is to post up a few of the photos on the beginning of the trip tonight and add some at the same time I am editing.
I am being a bit self indulgent in that I am posting up duplicate photos of the trip in and back out.
So there are dupicates shots of the waterfalls, but from a different angle.
Hence the more photos.
I guess people don't mind if there lots of photos to look at…just time consuming to upload each photo, post it to make sure it looks okay with the caption and repeat.
I enjoy doing it and the fact that others enjoy viewing them is all the more reason to do it.
Anyway, enough of my ranting….back to work to be the good Asian Worker Monkey that I aspire to be!
-TonyApr 24, 2009 at 3:27 pm #1496817
Casey BowdenBPL Member
@clbowdenLocale: Berkeley Hills
Stop distracting Tony!
Get back to work!Apr 24, 2009 at 3:38 pm #1496820
Where you up there that weekend?
Just after dinner, dusk, I went looking for you and I only found someone's Rainbow Tarptent and a backpacking sitting next to it or from a tree…not too far from the river. However, I could not find the owner of that site.
Was that your site?
-TonyApr 24, 2009 at 3:59 pm #1496825
Casey BowdenBPL Member
@clbowdenLocale: Berkeley Hills
If it was my site you would have seen my bike.
;)Apr 24, 2009 at 7:28 pm #1496858
Funny enough though Casey, we sent two different search and rescue parties for both you and Nate.
Saturday night was tame in comparison to the night at Point Reyes. I was suffering (for the first time at that elevation!!!!) some altitude sickness and was not up to par. It was a wonderful night and I hope that everyone enjoyed themselves. Highlight of the trip was seeing Cary and Lane cruising into camp around 3pm. We were a needle in a haystack and the they had their mojo working. Many of us were worried that if others were coming that they would not find us.
Nate, sorry you did not come in, it was an enjoyable evening. June will be fun….promise!Apr 29, 2009 at 11:56 pm #1497975
Thank you for your patience.
The photo essay of this trip is now finished and available for viewing in the Photo Gallery Section.
Have some patience while it loads, I think that I have something like 140 or so photos.
-TonyApr 30, 2009 at 6:49 pm #1498181
As always Tony, a wonderful job. Thank you!!!
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Gluing hardwood to tabletop
Just installed 3/4" x 2 1/4" prefinished hardwood flooring and have a box leftover. I want to build a coffee table for the wife and use some of the leftover flooring for the top. I was thinking of attaching the boards using glue and finishing nails through the tongues. Any ideas on which glue to use? TIA
You can do it that way, but a more common, preferable technique is to glue up the entire top using woodworkers glue (I like the yellow aliphatic glue). Then you attach the top to the table supports by using partially penetrating screws from the bottom up. The screws go through an oversized hole, and extend through the supports, typically 3/4 of the way through the table top.
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Daniel pretty much covered it.....On your flooring planks, if they are the engineered type, then the bottoms will most likley be pretty slick....glue may not stick well....I would take a sample, rough it up and see if it sticks. If there are no pourous surfaces, the glue is not going to 'glue'.
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First of all, thanks for the input. I spoke to a friend today who has a little woodworking experience. He suggested roughing up the bottoms of the boards and gluing to plywood. He thinks 3/8" plywood will work. He suggested gluing the boards together with them upside down on the basement floor then using liquid nails to glue the plywood to the backs of the boards and placing heavy blocks on it for pressure instead of clamps. Any thoughts about pros & cons for this idea?
you did see the part about having extra planks, at least 1 box, set aside ? for when the flooring gets damaged
I will have about 12 sq. ft. left over after the table.
I built a table once pretty much the way you describe, glueing hardwood to a plywood sheet, cutting the whole assembly to size, then attaching the plywood to the table frame. The results were not too good. The plywood made the top much heavier than it needed to be. Also, the hardwood expansion rate due to moisture changes was different than the plywood, and I had cracking problems over time since the plywood barely changed dimensions.
I have built several tables since then, and I simply glue up the top, sand flat, finish, attach, and it works fine.
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Can you elaborate on that? When you say you glue up the top, are you talking about using hardwood planks with no plywood?
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-3972?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13251450#comment-13251450 ] Alejandro Abdelnur commented on MAPREDUCE-3972: ----------------------------------------------- NITs: CachedHistoryStorage.getFullJob() 'metaInfo' local var should be renamed to 'fileInfo' CachedHistoryStorage.getAllPartialJobs() loop var 'mi' should be renamed to 'fileInfo' HistoryFileManager.addDirecotryToJobListCache(), scanIntermediateDirectory(), getJobMetaInfo(), scanOldDirsForJob(), getMetaInfo() & clean() methods, local variable 'metaInfo' should be renamed to 'fileInfo' HistoryFileManager.deleteJobFromDone() parameter 'metatInfo' should be renamed to 'fileInfo' RENAMEs: HistoryFileManager methods getJobMetaInfo()/getAllMetaInfo()/getMetaInfo(..) should be renamed to use HistoryFileInfo in their names. The getJobMetaInfo() and getMetaInfo() method names are not clear on their differences. PATCH NEEDS REBASE: TestJobHistoryParsing.java fails to apply cleanly due to minor changes by MAPREDUCE-4017 IMPROVEMENTs: JobHistory.stop() the schedulerExecutor should be 'shutdownNow()' after the grace period. ERRORs: HistoryFileManager$JobListCache.values() is synchronized but this won't synchronize the access to the values, either we have to copy the values within this method or we use a concurrent data structure instead of TreeMap. > Locking and exception issues in JobHistory Server. > -------------------------------------------------- > > Key: MAPREDUCE-3972 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-3972 > Project: Hadoop Map/Reduce > Issue Type: Sub-task > Components: mrv2 > Affects Versions: 0.23.2 > Reporter: Robert Joseph Evans > Assignee: Robert Joseph Evans > Attachments: MR-3972.txt, MR-3972.txt, MR-3972.txt > > > The JobHistory server's locking is inconsistent and wrong in some cases. This is not super critical because the issues would only show up if a job is being cleaned up or moved from intermediate done to done, at the same time it is being parsed into a CompletedJob. However the locking is slowing down the server in some cases, and is a ticking time bomb that needs to be addressed. > As part of this too we need to be sure that the Cleaner and Intermediate to Done migration threads handle exceptions properly. Now it appears that the exception is logged, and the thread just shuts down. This means that the history server could still be up and running for weeks and never remove old jobs. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira
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Home › Forums › General Forums › SuperUltraLight (SUL) Backpacking Discussion › Do you carry a backup fire starter? What and Why or Why Not?
Feb 20, 2014 at 5:00 pm #1313570
Rick SuttonBPL Member
@rickcsuttonLocale: Midwest
Last year on a remote, non-resupply, 10 day trip, my mini bic falled to work on the 2nd night out. I do carry 8 backup matches and a match box cardboard striker as my fire starter back-up, yet seeing we had wind and rain almost every day and evening, I wonder if the matches would even have lit my Esbit tabs. I was fortunate to borrow my buddy's lighter for the remainder of the trip.
I have been using a bic for almost 20 years and never had a malfunction before, however, I am now rethinking my ability to light a esbit and eat my meals if this happens again. I understand this could be a one time occurance, however it would have been a rougher trip if I was hiking alone. Since I only cook my dinners, I would still eat everyday, yet, I'm sure I would have missed the extra calories and energy my dinners provide.
I have been looking at some other fire starters, yet, rarely see these on too many SUL gear lists. This has me wondering……
Do you carry a backup fire starter on a longer than a weekend trip? If so, what do you bring and what is your resoning for bringing it or for leaving it at home?
Thanks in advance.Feb 20, 2014 at 5:12 pm #2075565
I also use a mini-Bic as my primary fire source. For a backup, I carry a book of paper matches that is covered by a scrap of plastic wrap, and it weighs two-tenths of an ounce.
You see, if David Thomas and some others of us were there, we would have a full-blown engineering lab analysis of what failed.
I've never had any relatively new mini-Bic fail. I've had an old one run out of fuel.
–B.G.–Feb 20, 2014 at 5:25 pm #2075571
Drew SmithBPL Member
@drewsmithLocale: Colorado Rockies
I have had a mini-Bic fail spectacularly, with the wheel, flint and spring flying out of the top as I was trying to light a fire to boil water my coffee. Not to worry, I thought, I have my REI storm matches as backup. But they failed to light – I went through about 20 before I got one to actually flame up, rather than just smolder. This was at the beginning of a 5-day trip in the Indian Peaks, and not an auspicious start at all. Fortunately I was able to beg a spare lighter from some other hikers. Since then I have always carried a flint and steel striker – no moving parts, and it's waterproof. That has been the theme of my evolution as a backpacker – to eliminate gear with moving parts.
The REI matches worked just fine back in Boulder. I can only think that the elevation (close to 11,000 ft) resulted in oxygen starvation, causing them to fail.Feb 20, 2014 at 5:38 pm #2075578
carry two lighters, they're very lightFeb 20, 2014 at 5:39 pm #2075579
a pun there, trying to get outFeb 20, 2014 at 7:03 pm #2075603
Don AmundsonBPL Member
@amrowincLocale: Southern California
I carry a mini bic and 5 strike anywhere matches, probably due to early boy scout training and reading too many Jack London stories. My primary fire source is a newer mini electronic bic. I gave one to a friend and asked her how she liked later. She said she had forgotten about it in her pocket and ran it through the wash. Thinking it ruined she tried it and it lit up the first time. I don't get too paranoid about getting my lighter wet anymore.Feb 20, 2014 at 7:06 pm #2075605
I don't like the flint bics – when they get damp they don't work, when my thumb gets damp it makes a hole in my thumb
Electronic ones much better
But I hear they don't work above 10,000', but I seldom go thereFeb 20, 2014 at 7:07 pm #2075606
Daniel PittmanSpectator
@pitsyLocale: Central Texas
Shoelaces. Maybe I'll find a likely piece of bark and a nice dowel-like stick if I'm leaving the trees for more than a few hours. Otherwise, I can find what I need to string a bow with my shoelace and drill me up a fire in less than a half-hour.
But that's backup-backup. Backup is either a second lighter or regular paper matches. Shelter gets erected first in inclement weather, then we make fire.Feb 20, 2014 at 7:09 pm #2075608
David ThomasBPL Member
@davidinkenaiLocale: North Woods. Far North.
I carry two mini Bics in different places. Not so much because one might malfunction, but a really wet one needs to dry out first, and I am certainly capable of misplacing one and it sucks to leave my only lighter behind a rock at the last campsite.
Additionally, I usually have a small square of waxed paper, waxed cardboard, or single-egg-portion of an egg carton filled with wax. Something I could leave at the bottom of a pile of twigs if I really need to get a fire going in poor conditions.Feb 20, 2014 at 7:24 pm #2075613
Justin BakerBPL Member
@justin_bakerLocale: Santa Rosa, CA
a bic lighter and a firesteel
and enough firestarting tinder that i cant blaze through the wettest wood no matter what.Feb 20, 2014 at 7:43 pm #2075621
One common cause for a butane lighter to fail is that the fuel is too cold. This is especially true if you store the lighter in your cook gear and not in your pants pocket. Now, it isn't too hard to warm it up, but it may take a while.
–B.G.–Feb 20, 2014 at 7:46 pm #2075623
John HarperBPL Member
@johnnyh88Locale: The SouthWest
I carry a mini bic and some storm proof matches. Really, what is the worst that could happen without hot water? Most dehydrated or freeze-dried meals can rehydrate with normal water, although it will take longer and won't be as appetizing.Feb 20, 2014 at 8:19 pm #2075632
Clayton BlackBPL Member
Mini-bic, storm proof matches w/cotton Vaseline balls.Feb 20, 2014 at 8:26 pm #2075634
David GoodyearBPL Member
@dmgoodyLocale: mid-west
I carry an assortment of on person survival gear attached to loops in my pockets and on a lanyard around my neck. this way I can always start a fire,cut something and signal – even if I get separated from my pack.
DaveFeb 20, 2014 at 9:07 pm #2075640
Bob BankheadBPL Member
@wandering_bobLocale: Oregon, USA
Always, but then, I live and hike in the often soggy Pacific NW.
I carry 2 BIC lighters plus a waterproof match case with a mix of strike anywhere and REI storm matches.
I've found it is easy to buy BIC lighters at my destination before I get on trail. Some cities and states have outlawed strike anywhere matches, so they can be harder to find.
TSA Rules:
"Common Lighters – Lighters without fuel are permitted in checked baggage. Lighters with fuel are prohibited in checked baggage, unless they adhere to the Department of Transportation (DOT) exemption, which allows up to two fueled lighters if properly enclosed in a DOT approved case. If you are uncertain as to whether your lighter is prohibited, please leave it at home."
"Torch Lighters – Torch lighters create a thin, needle-like flame that is hotter (reaching 2,500 degrees Fahrenheit) and more intense than those from common lighters. Torch lighters are often used for pipes and cigars, and maintain a consistent stream of air-propelled fire regardless of the angle at which it is held. Torch lighters continue to be banned."
"Strike-anywhere Matches – One book of safety (non-strike anywhere) matches are permitted as carry-on items, but all matches are prohibited in checked baggage."Feb 20, 2014 at 9:20 pm #2075643
Stephen BarberBPL Member
@grampaLocale: SoCal
Two mini Bics in different places, plus a misch metal "flint" and striker, and a couple of vaseline & cotton balls sealed in plastic straw sections.
Why? Because even though I now live in dry SoCal, I used to live in Oregon and then the Northwest Territories, and it scarred me for life regarding always being able to start a fire.Feb 20, 2014 at 9:59 pm #2075650
Dale WambaughBPL Member
@dwambaughLocale: Pacific Northwest
Do you carry a backup fire starter? Yes
I select from the following as I feel the need:
Exotac PolySTRIKER firesteel
K&M match case/compass with UCO storm matches
Mini Bic lighter
Bison Designs spy capsule filled with Tinder Quick tabs
Folding pocket knife
Light My Fire Swedish Fire Knife
Orion Fire Starter 5 minute flare
Gerber Sportsman's Saw
Why? Because I hike in a cold, wet, dark corner of the world and often solo.Feb 21, 2014 at 10:06 am #2075727
Jim HBPL Member
@jraiderguyLocale: Bay Area
When I first started backpacking with my dad in the Sierras, we'd go out for 4 day trips and bring only bread, peanut butter, honey bunches of oats, and jerky. We'd cover the taste of iodine with Tang. He later told me he liked the sparse diet so that the burger tasted better back in town. We had a tube of strike-anywhere matches in the first aid kid that didn't get opened for 15 years. The point is that for all my dad taugth me about backpacking, I knew absolutely nothing about starting fires when I moved to the PNW.
I tried and failed to start a fire my first night on the beach on the Olympic Peninsula. My matches and 7-11 lighter were no match for wet driftwood. I'd need lighters, matches, kindling, and fuel. So now I often carry two mini-bics, a backup matchbook, vaselined-cotton balls, and sometimes even a squirt bottle of sterno gel to smear on a few twigs if I'm expecting particularly bad weather.
Last time I was out there, the boy scout troop camped down the beach had carried in a few of those new Duraflame "campfire" style logs as their tinder (http://www.duraflame.com/products/roasting-logs). It definitely worked. :)Feb 21, 2014 at 10:53 am #2075741
Chad BBPL Member
@cenazwalkerLocale: Southwest
I carry a mini Bic as primary and a mini ziploc with a few storm matches and a chunk of dryer lint. I cook with esbit, so that is also a firestarter.Feb 21, 2014 at 12:29 pm #2075756
Dena KelleyBPL Member
@eagleriverdeeLocale: Eagle River, Alaska
I do carry a backup firestarter, and not just when I hike. My Jeep has lighters, matches and flares stashed in it. My snowmobile does. My ATV does. And of course, my backpacking kit and dayhiking kit does. I like in Alaska- fire could be the difference between living and dying in a worst case scenario. I'm definitely a glass-half-empty type of person and plan for the worst while hoping for the best.
I generally carry two mini-bics (on different parts of my body) plus some waterproof matches plus some sort of assistance such as Wetfire tinder (incredible stuff, really) or vaseline cotton ball or Coghlans Fire Lighters which also work rather well. I also usually have a candle with me, either a Tea Light or one of the larger Emergency Candles. Whatever I have, it all fits easily into the palm of my hand and adds negligible weight to my kit but a lot of peace of mind.Feb 21, 2014 at 1:05 pm #2075763
Tony RoncoBPL Member
I usually carry a sparker. Nothing to go wrong there … but also carry a mini bic lighter for back up
For my emergency fire starting "kit" I have several homemade Self-Igniting Fire Starter … well under an ounce.
Why? I just don't want to be in a situation where i needed a fire, but couldn't be able to make it … you pack your fears.Feb 21, 2014 at 1:11 pm #2075764
John HarperBPL Member
@johnnyh88Locale: The SouthWest
I see comments such as "fire can be the difference between life and death".
Do people actually rely this heavily on fire? When I go out, I would NEVER rely on fire as my savior in an emergency and I think people's expectations of fire saving them are too high.
Edit: I suppose I view fire as something that is "nice to have" but not 100% necessary.Feb 21, 2014 at 1:38 pm #2075770
"For my emergency fire starting "kit" I have several homemade Self-Igniting Fire Starter … well under an ounce."
Tony, I viewed the video. I saw the barbecue lighter, and I saw the match. I want to know where the self-igniting fire starter was.
–B.G.–Feb 21, 2014 at 1:53 pm #2075774
Mitchell EbbottSpectator
@mebbottLocale: SoCal
If everything goes right, then fire is a luxury, but when shit hits the fan it's one of the top priorities for saving your life.
Say you have a down bag, it gets wet, and you're stuck in a rainstorm with no insulation. A fire could be the only thing standing between you and hypothermia. This is even more of a risk on a day hike when you're not carrying adequate overnight insulation in the first place.
Its use for cooking isn't quite as critical, but in a survival situation having a fire and cooked food can provide a much-needed psychological boost.Feb 21, 2014 at 2:08 pm #2075779
Travis B.Spectator
John, I'd say yes, I do rely quite heavily on fire. Where I hike I tend to use fire for cooking and for additional warmth. Where the ability to create fire seems particularly important to me is anytime you are travelling on moving water, large lakes, or river crossings. Where I live the water is cold enough to have you hypothermic in 10-15 minutes. Yes, having additional dry clothes and your sleeping bag on hand is a great way to get warm, but I've seen situations where people are separated from their backpacks AND situations where people's gear gets wet after a swim. Both situations happened to experienced hikers who never thought it could happen to them. Not to mention, by it's nature lightweight backpacking means few people are going to have enough spare clothes available to get their core temperature back up quickly in cooler weather when the clothes they are wearing are wet.
For the negligible weight of a mini-bic, a few spare matches, a fire steel, and a few vasoline cotton balls, all kept on my person at all times, I can have 'nearly' guaranteed access to heat, the ability to dry gear, cook food, boil water, signal for help and yes, the psychological comfort of having a fire.
I know fire is not always as necessary in other parts of the world, but the benefits certainly outweigh the extra few ounces in my opinion.
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