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Area Female Athlete: Pierz's Bednar betters her game
Bridget Bednar got offensive this year.
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A strong work ethic from Bednar helped Pierz to an 18-10 regular-season record and a 6-1 conference record. That placed Pierz second in the conference.
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Monsignor Charles Pope points out that we will not have lost marriage when the Supreme Court discovers a long-dormant right to gay marriage in the Constitution. We lost it - we destroyed it - a long time ago:
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Paul Louis Adrien Henri Hymans (23 March 1865 – 8 March 1941), was a Belgian politician associated with the Liberal Party. He was the second President of the League of Nations, and served again as its president in 1932-33.
Hymans was the son of Belgian writer and historian Louis Hymans. He became a lawyer and professor at the Universite Libre de Bruxelles. As a politician he became Belgian Minister for Foreign Affairs from 1918 to 1920 (and again from 1927 to 1935), minister of justice from 1926 to 1927, and member of the council of ministers from 1935 to 1936. In 1919, together with Charles de Broqueville and Emile Vandervelde he introduced universal suffrage for all men (one man, one vote) and compulsory education.
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- Helmreich, J.E., Paul Hymans and Henri Jaspar : Contrasting Diplomatic Styles for a small power, in : Studia Diplomatica, XXXIX, 1986, p. 669-682.
- Willequet, J., Les mémoires de Paul Hymans, in : Le Flambeau, 1958, nr. 9-10, p. 565-573.
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Had some fun with this yesterday: it's from our blog on backpackthesierra.com
Is there a mathematical solution to the challenge of ultralight backpacking? It seems that an engineer would be able to develop an equation that could be used to fine tune our equipment. It would have to address a number of variables. I am not an engineer, nor do I play one on TV, but I did have some fun working through this problem:
W = the weight of your pack when you leave the trailhead. The goal is to manipulate the other variables to achieve a very low value for W. Lighter is better
P = the price you have to pay for your equipment, in dollars. Please convert from Euros, Rubles, etc. if required.
And somehow our equation needs to reflect that as W is reduced, P usually increases.
In fact, as W approaches zero, P probably arrives close to infinity—or at least beyond the reach of normal people. In other words: Priceless. Ouch.
Instead, let's set up the equation to reward people who do this lightly and CHEAP.
So with all that in mind:
W = Weight in number of pounds you carry. Note that this will NOT be what you WANT to carry which will always be N-1 (where N = # ounces you are carrying).
C = $800—the rough price we paid for our backpacking outfit. You will have to use your own numbers here to see how you compare.
P = the Price you must pay for the gear (in dollars, pesos, rubles, etc.) per pound
So the final equation reads like this:
Do you want to buy a new tent? What if the new tent weights three pounds?
Is that a good deal? Let's compare that to staying with your old, four pound tent:
Is paying $66.67 worth it? Maybe. Most of us would agree that paying $20 would be worth it, if we could save a pound on our pack weight. Many of us would pay a lot more for that!
What about a new 1.5 pound tent?
That makes some lightweight gear seem like a screaming deal!
Now let's look at my own list, bearing in mind that we are NOT ultralighters, and that my wife and I certainly believe in some creature comforts. So we carry about fourteen pounds each, not including water and food.
P = 775/14 = $57.26 cost per item per pound.
So I am presenting that as the BTS (Backpack the Sierra) constant. Let's round it off to a nice round $60 per pound.
So how does your pack stack up? The real goal here isn't to get the pack weight to zero—it's to see how cost effective your kit is. Do you get by with lower cost equipment, but stuff that might weigh a little more? Or do you go for the ultimate lightweight gear, even if it costs you more?
And how do those answers fit into the equation? I would assume that other regions, which require more or less equipment, have somewhat different answers. Our own answers for winter camping would be like this:
P = 1000/18 = 55.55. That's pretty dang close to the BTS constant!Apr 17, 2012 at 10:38 am #1868150
I'd suggest that what you really care about is not absolute price/pound but the cost of SAVING an additional pound. A theoretical example:
W1 = five pound pack, P1 = $200
W2 = two pound pack, P2 = $350
(W2-W1)/(P2-P1) = 3 pounds saved / $150 spent or
(P2-P1)/(W2-W1) = $50 per pound saved. Which would be a very high-yield choice.
Alas, you usually already have the non-UL gear, so the entire purchase price of the new item has to counted (less anything you can get for the used, heavier gear).
One downside of this approach is that you tend to compare one cheaper, heavier thing for a lighter, more expensive thing. Whereas the big weight savings are when you switch to an entirely different paradigm: Tarp instead of tent. Or no-cook menus instead of stove+pot+fuel.
The cheapest, lightest option is the stuff you don't buy and carry in the first place!Apr 17, 2012 at 10:57 am #1868156
>"Whereas the big weight savings are when you switch to an entirely different paradigm"
+1 David Thomas.
In my experience, it's a myth that UL is necessarily more expensive. Tarps are cheaper than tents. Low volume frameless packs are cheaper than 80L full suspension monsters. Alky stoves (bought or MYOG) are far cheaper than white gas stoves. Trail runners are cheaper than full leather Goretex boots. Aquamira is cheaper than a pump filter. Etc, etc. True, UL down sleeping bags or quilts come at a premium, but that's as much an increase in quality as a decrease in weight.
Leaving unnecessary stuff behind (usually a big drop in weight from traditional to lightweight kits) cost nothing at all.
At a guess, I'd say my current 3 season list cost significantly less than the OP's, although a fair amount of that savings is MYOG.Apr 17, 2012 at 12:20 pm #1868180
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@keith_bassettLocale: Pacific NW
+1 w/ David also. It is the saved lb that we care about.
Alchy stoves, gatorade bottles, creative re-use of household stuff like boil in bags vs extra pots, etc.
That case seems to not fit very well with the big 3 paradigm. Though purchased stoves would seem to be EVEN more expensive per pound saved as you go from al to ti.
Nice to see a swipe at expressing this, hopefully this thread will run to some logical awesome algorithmic conclusion. I have often wondered about this.Apr 17, 2012 at 12:54 pm #1868196
Walter CarringtonBPL Member
@snowleopardLocale: Mass.
This is a variation of the 'Knapsack Problem'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knapsack_problemApr 17, 2012 at 8:54 pm #1868402
David, I have to admit that I thought of you half-way through writing the original post. It seemed like something you would have some insight into…
And yes, I made some of our gear, which affects our weight as well. But we also take our comforts: a pair of Crocs for each of us as camp shoes and water shoes, my wife takes a book or two, I take fishing gear. Shoot–we each take a full-size NeoAir, and my wife adds a Z-rest to that for extra padding!
Not UL by any means. But then again, at our age we pretty much get to do what we want, don't we? grinApr 18, 2012 at 8:05 am #1868531
Michael LevineMember
@troutLocale: Long Beach
My version of this when converting to UL was to weigh my current gear, next to it place "the ideal item weight" (essentially what I would buy given a bigger budget than I have), the next column is *my item weight – new item weight* to get weight savings in ounces. The next column was price of new item. The last column was weight saved divided by number of ounces.
So essentially I figured out the cost per ounce saved of every item I wanted to buy. I think it's a pretty legit way to figure out what you ought to buy. $60 for a 1oz savings on a headlamp ($60/oz)? No thanks. $300 on a 12oz weight savings for a quilt($25/oz), much more reasonable.
What that doesn't figure out in is that you can often re-sell old items, but then you ought to figure in your time cost too. You could conceivably, though I didn't, make the price column of the new item be less the cost of your trade-in. That'd make it the most ideal to my mind.Apr 18, 2012 at 9:04 am #1868565
Paul, luxury and comfort items are great, IMO. Trimming base weight makes taking those items easier/possible. Crocs are pretty light (if not compact) and can make a cold-water, cobble-filled creek more easily passable. Books for her and fishing for you I might put in the "essential mental-health supplies" category, wouldn't you?Apr 18, 2012 at 9:09 am #1868568
Michael, You said it better than I did (and with fewer equations!).
We can blinded by percentage savings in a particular item and the headlamp example you gave is a good one. $$ on incremental savings on small items should be done if it's fun to pursue and you have the budget. But looking at actual dollars per ounces saved so objectively will knock that base weight down much more quickly, given a finite budget.Apr 18, 2012 at 8:05 pm #1868853
Hi David
I am not sure they are mental health items….but they certainly give us joy. And while I am in the wine business, we usually don't take wine on our trips. But if someone brought a small bottle of hootch with them, I would put it in that same category—not part of your base weight, more along the lines of entertainment…Apr 20, 2012 at 2:56 am #1869292
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David's post perfectly anticipated my reaction to the initial question – it's the marginal cost of shaving a given amount of weight that matters if you're thinking about potential gains quantitatively. (This is for otherwise equivalent items. There are other ways of getting lighter, such as changing the type of equipment, that might actually be less expensive, but that tends to lead to lead less general and more complex equations.)
In the realm of decisions made by mainstream competitive amateur and other enthusiast cyclists, $1/gram tends to be the cost of shaving weight. Having spent some time in that world, I wondered whether there might be a similar generality in lightweight backpacking. To test it, I graphed out the cost of various sleeping bags and got pretty much a straight line at $10/ounce through most of the mainstream range. This has seemed to hold pretty true as I've looked at other items, including packs etc.
Not everyone will necessarily find that $10/oz or thereabouts is the right marginal cost for them – for some it's worth paying even more to shave off that last little bit, others will choose to stop with lower-hanging fruit. But knowing where the breakpoint tends to be makes it much easier to make quantitatively driven decisions about whether the ligher of two similar items is worth the extra cost.
BillApr 21, 2012 at 5:35 pm #1869752
Anything under 10$/oz saved is a bargain, it rapidly rises to as much as $50/oz the lighter you want to go.
The most savings will be realized by purchasing very light gear the FIRST time, and not having to replace it.Apr 21, 2012 at 8:31 pm #1869797
Over the last 4-5 years, I've replaced everything I used to hike with (apart from a couple Platy bladders). I'm pretty careful about buying gear, and try to make a fair amount of stuff, so the total I've spent is only around $1500 (not including clothing items I also wear around town, and would have bought anyway). That includes a couple different pack, sleep and cook options.
My 3+ season base weight has dropped from around 25# (~18# in Big Three alone) to less than 10#, or about $100/ lb. saved ($6.25/oz) for my whole gear closet. But the SUL kit I'm trying for the first time next weekend is only about $670 of that amount, or 670/20= $33.50/lb (~$2/oz).Apr 21, 2012 at 8:50 pm #1869805
for instance:
have a 40 oz bag, want a 20 oz WM summerlite bag that is $365, cost = $18.25 per oz.
have a 64 oz tent, want a 17 oz hexamid with cuben groundsheet , cost is $540 = 11.5/oz
but if you have 32 oz bag to start, that 20 oz bag cost you 365/12 =$30/oz to save
If you have a 30 oz tarptent, the hexamid cost you 540/(30-17)=41/oz to save.
the lighter you are, the less weight is saved by new $$$ gear, and the higher the incremental cost is to save each additional oz.Apr 21, 2012 at 9:22 pm #1869811
Sure, MB–thought about that after I posted. Fortunately (thanks to advice from this site) almost nothing I've bought was to replace something already pretty light, eg, my 19 oz 40* quilt doesn't replace my 29 oz 20* bag, it's just used for different conditions. Of course, if I want to replace that quilt with a lighter 40* quilt, it'll prob. cost upwards of $50/oz.
As you say, the best value is buying light the first time.
My sense of the OP was there was an assumed premium for going light(er), and that super light=super expensive. My point was, for those of us who can take advantage of the R&D of early adopters, even SUL can be affordable.Apr 22, 2012 at 12:44 pm #1869941
In fact, one of the things I tried was to put together the equipment I used forty years ago to go backpacking: A cheap external frame pack that didn't weigh much more than three pounds, a tube tent that checked in at under a pound, and a Dacron II bag that probably weighed about four pounds. So the big three were under eight pounds. No water filter–we drank straight from the streams. No stove, we just built a fire every night.
I bet if I could find that whole kit at a yard sale somewhere, I could buy the whole thing for under $50. And my cost per pound would be close to $2. That's a great deal…and we had a ton of great adventures with that equipment~!Apr 22, 2012 at 2:32 pm #1869967
Sorry, I misunderstood. No offense meant.Apr 22, 2012 at 8:26 pm #1870073
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Missing components…
An Esbit stove is about as light as you can get. What is the cost of fuel per liter of water boiled for Esbit, canister, WG, alcohol.
What is the cost per mile of a shoe. Some shoes last less than 500 miles. Boots can last over 2,000 miles and can be resoled.
How long does a pack last? My sub 3lb Kelty has over well over 5,000 miles on it.
etc.Apr 23, 2012 at 9:27 pm #1870487
Ken KMember
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>> My version of this when converting to UL was to weigh my current gear, next to it place "the ideal item weight" (essentially what I would buy given a bigger budget than I have), the next column is *my item weight – new item weight* to get weight savings in ounces. The next column was price of new item. The last column was weight saved divided by number of ounces. So essentially I figured out the cost per ounce saved of every item I wanted to buy.
This is EXACTLY what I've done since joining this community. Using this spreadsheet, I've prioritized my purchases, and determined opportunity-prices that maximize my "weighted dollars". The $150 10 ounce down jacket didn't make the cut, but the $40 13 ouncer did. SMD Traveler cost $3.90/ounce saved. The next big purchase (a tent) will run $4.00/ounce saved.
After that, I need to start figuring in non-financial issues… That new air pad will run $13/saved ounce, but it also doubles my insulation and may be much more comfortable. Worth it? Or does it still fall behind the $7/saved ounce ti stakes?
This process has been a lot of fun (and addictive), but what kills me is that even with the great values an relatively inexpensive price-per-ounce I've found so far, it completely pales in comparison to just getting my fat butt moving. I lost 50 pounds of "skin in" weight for free! At what point do I stop buying gear and just focus on the health, saving the money for gas money, plane tickets, and park permits?Apr 24, 2012 at 7:00 am #1870556
Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
"The $150 10 ounce down jacket didn't make the cut, but the $40 13 ouncer did. SMD Traveler cost $3.90/ounce saved."
That illustrates a problem
If you buy the 13 ouncer, you pay less $ per ounce, but then you're left yearning for the 10 ouncer, and if you succumb – you wasted the money on the 13 ouncer
Maybe you're better off buying the best jacket which will last for years, and then eventually you can buy the best pack…
No clear best answer…Apr 24, 2012 at 6:36 pm #1870808
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>> If you buy the 13 ouncer, you pay less $ per ounce, but then you're left yearning for the 10 ouncer, and if you succumb – you wasted the money on the 13 ouncer. Maybe you're better off buying the best jacket which will last for years, and then eventually you can buy the best pack… No clear best answer…
That certainly is a concern. In my case, I generally just don't have enough fun money at any one time to validate those really high dollar goodies, and I can generally make myself happy with whatever it is I purchase. In those rare cases that I can buy something now and make an incremental upgrade later, I consider myself blessed. Since all of my retired gear gets passed on to someone else (son, scouts, etc.), it's never a waste.Apr 24, 2012 at 8:37 pm #1870851
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I did the same as above with the spreadsheet and calculating dollars saved per ounce. But first i made a plan to hit a 10 pound pack once everything was bought. Then i purchased each item in order of lowest cost per ounce. This way I would never have to re buy to meet my goalApr 24, 2012 at 8:58 pm #1870862
…..cannot….help….self….must …..purchase….lighter ….gear.Apr 28, 2012 at 1:12 pm #1872209
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I use this formula, that is I calculate the difference between the new and old price and divide that by the number of grams saved. If you are going for straight weight savings, you'll buy the stuff that has the highest number first.
Its only calculated for my pants but you get the idea.
But the real issue is that you actually have other things such us a durability, features etc. Its hard to quantify them.
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Old memories die hard. Just ask former Muskie football players and cheerleaders who turned up at the Fort Frances Curling Club on Saturday to reminisce.
George Wood, who was better known to his teammates as "The Egyptian Mummy" because they couldn't read his face, played tackle, guard, and fullback all through high school.


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Police have arrested a man over an alleged home invasion at Smithfield, in Adelaide's northern suburbs, earlier this month.
It is alleged the man broke into the house on October 6 with a second man and threatened the occupants with a cattle prod and crow bar, before allegedly stealing items from the home.
The 29-year-old Burton man has been charged with aggravated serious criminal trespass, aggravated assault, theft and aggravated assault causing harm.
Police allege he is part of the gang that targeted 13 homes in the northern suburbs in five weeks.
The man appeared in the Elizabeth Magistrates Court this afternoon and did not apply for bail.
His name and image have been suppressed.
Police said they have established Operation Zeal to target those responsible for the series of home invasions.
They said part of that operation will be investigating whether the arrested man has links to any similar incidents.


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Class of 2016 offensive tackle J.P. Urquidez (Hyattsville, Maryland/DeMatha), who traveled to Austin for the camp, received his offer after talking with Texas' offensive line/offensive coordinator Joe Wickline.
"We got in contact with Coach [Joe] Wickline and he asked me how I thought I did at the camp," Urquidez said. "I thought I had a good showing but room for improvement. Then he said 'After evaluating you and talking with Coach [Charlie] Strong, we are going to offer you a scholarship.
"It was pretty surreal, not going to lie. Texas has been a childhood team of mine growing up. It was awesome. They've always been one of my favorite teams. It was a pretty awesome moment."
Urquidez was actually born in Wichita Falls, Texas, before moving to the East Coast. But his roots are in the Lone Star State and so was his allegiance toward the Longhorns.
"I think it was just that I was born in Texas and my whole family likes Texas," he said. "I had a bunch of Texas gear when I was born. Texas has always been the family favorite."
The Longhorns join a list of offers that already included Navy, Kansas State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Baylor, Texas Tech, Virginia Tech, Maryland, New Mexico State.
It's a huge offer but not one that the massive tackle is ready to accept. "I will definitely slow play it," he said. "No one is in the lead right now. No early commitment."
Urquidez is the 13th recruit in his class to receive a Texas offer and the third offensive linemen along with Greg Little (Allen, Texas) and Ben Cleveland (Toccoa, Ga./Stephens County).
"Right now the main thing that is working for me is my size," he said. "I came in at 6-6, 300 pounds. My run blocking is good and I play with a mean streak. I don't stop until the whistle blows. I got a couple of pancakes in front of the coaches. Wickline likes my run-blocking and my pass pro."
Urquidez was pleasantly surprised with how tough Texas' camp was on Sunday, but appreciated it.
"I definitely wasn't expecting as much activity as we had. It was a pretty grueling," he said. "It was a fast-paced camp, non-stop. I liked it a lot. It was a lot of time for exposure. It was good having Wickline have eyes on me and then Coach Strong came down and watched me in 1-on-1s so that was a big moment."
He's now looking forward to more interaction with the staff.
"The next move is to make it down to the great state of Texas and watch them win a ballgame," he said.


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A slew of exhibitions, world-class auteur film, a mind-blowing art performance, a giant round-up of food trucks, a food fest that shines the spotlight on Québec cuisine, activities for families and hot party evenings: it's going to be one mighty fine long weekend in the city! Exhibitions Montréal's museums and art galleries are teeming with excellent exhibitions. On September 2, the MAC opens the doors to its popular Nocturne from 5 p.m. to 2 in the morning. Take advantage of your visit to see Edmund Alleyn. In my studio, I am many, Jean-Pierre Gauthier and Ryoji Ikeda. Orchestrated, Liz Magor. Habitude and Lizzie Fitch/Ryan Trecartin. Priority Innfield while you're there. At the MMFA don't miss the last days of the POMPEII until September 5 and take part in a musical experience that combines urban art and play structures with the sweet 21 balançoires (21 swings) on the Promenade des Artistes at the Quartier des spectacles. Starting August 31, you can see the World Press Photo at Bonsecours Market, which showcases the winning photographs of this prestigious professional world competition. On September 4, take the family to see the Harvest Festival at Maison Saint-Gabriel for a day of fun and market-fresh abundance that… / Read More →
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Things To Do in Montréal: August 28 to September 3
From the World Press Photo exhibition to the World Film Festival, the best of the planet is uniting in Montréal this week. Plus there's enough outdoor fun to enjoy the best of this heat wave, including open-air art festivals, concerts in the botanical gardens, and more food than you'll be able to fit in. Picture this The World Press Photo exhibition celebrates its 10th anniversary this year, returning to Marché Bonsecours in Old Montréal to wow image lovers until September 27 with the world's very best in professional media photography. Read more here. On the Plateau, the 20th edition of the street-long happening on Mont-Royal Avenue, Nuit Blanche sur Tableau Noir, turns the street into a canvas from August 27 to 30. Watch as artists create live works right there on the asphalt as local musicians provide the ambiance, and games like mini-putt and bouncy castles add even more life to this lively street. Meanwhile, downtown, head to Place Émilie Gamelin for Chromatic Festival on Saturday, August 29, put on by MASSIVart. The fest presents urban art and graffiti creative workshops for kids and adults, plus shows off the fun with live painting and music for passersby from 10 am… / Read More →
A sneak peek at Montréal's 2015 Burger Week
The 2015 edition of Le Burger Week marks the fourth year Montréalers will be celebrating a gussied-up and glorified backyard barbecue staple. From September 1 to 7, visitors and locals alike will top off their blood pressure medication in preparation for this week-long event set up to tantalize the burger lover in all of us. The concept is simple, local restaurants are carefully selected to create a signature burger that reflects the cuisine and overall concept of their restaurant. This burger will be offered at a reduced "Burger Price" as an incentive for hungry burger-lovers to seek out participating Burger Week restaurants to vote on their favourite one. Here is a sneak peek at the burgers to come! Brasserie Artisanale L'amère à Boire | "Burger aux saveurs des sous-bois" Sous-bois aromas, Imperial Stout beef patty, 2-year aged, smoked cheddar, mushroom marmalade, and arugula. Bar Brutus | "The 6 Pack" Onion bread, cheese-curd stuffed beef patty wrapped in 6 slices of bacon, pickles, lettuce, fried onions, homemade BBQ sauce. Bâton Rouge | "Big Devil Burger" Pub Bishop & Bagg | "Brawn Burger" Breaded, fried slice of brawn (pork and beef terrine), melted white cheddar, cucumber, caper, Dijon sauce, fresh tomato, arugula,… / Read More →
A tasty preview of Burger Week Montreal 2013
Hot off the heels of last year's successful Burger Week Montreal, the 2013 edition returns with great anticipation and finds itself satiating the appetites of burger-heads in four cities across the nation…
Montreal ushered in September with the first annual Montreal Burger Week. Over twenty restaurants – some with specialty burgers specifically for this week – participated in this weeklong burger brawl, battling for the ultimate title. If you missed out, here's a photo gallery of some of Montreal's best burgers…


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The Hon. Tanya Plibersek at the Whitlam Institute
Whitlam Institute
Wednesday, 18 May 2016 from 11:00 am to 1:00 pm (AEST)
The Hon. Tanya Plibersek at the Whitlam Institute
The Deputy Leader of the Opposition and Shadow Foreign Minister, the Honourable Tanya Plibersek will be delivering her principal 2016 Post-Budget Address at the Whitlam Institute at 11.00 am on Wednesday 18 May 2016.
For better or worse the Budget has evolved into a piece of political theatre that takes centre stage in May each year. Too often the importance of the Budget as the embodiment of a government's philosophical framework and its policy settings as well as its practical impact on the lives of all Australians is lost amidst the endless speculation, spinning, twirling, machinations and intrigue.
The Whitlam Institute has invited the Hon Tanya Plibersek to offer the Opposition's perspective on the substantive issues of policy in her response to the Government's 2016 Budget. In the spirit of the occasion Ms Plibersek will be taking questions from the floor.
Light refreshments will follow the address.
The Whitlam Institute within Western Sydney University exists not simply to preserve the legacy of the Hon Gough Whitlam AC QC through the Prime Ministerial Collection, but to ensure that his legacy lives through our commitment to bold public policy and social reform and through our efforts to nurture an interest in and understanding of our democracy.
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