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- Luring may also refer to the Fishing technique, lure fishing.
Luring is a term most often used to describe a player tricking or deceiving another player by leading them to a dangerous place, oftentimes in the Wilderness. Since 28 March 2007, it has been considered scamming. Luring is usually done when victims have a sizable amount of wealth with them, so that when they die, they will lose a certain number of items or cash to the lurer, who then proceeds to pick it up. Since the return of the Wilderness, luring has become much more common and highly lucrative and the rules concerning luring have become more ambiguous. However, even so, luring is considered to be undesirable player behaviour and should be reported as 'scamming'.
Why players lureEdit
Luring is considered by many players to be dishonest and unfair gameplay. Purportedly, there have been many players who have gained substantial amounts of wealth through luring. Players lure for wealth or for fun.
Anti-Luring Edit
An "Anti Lure" is a common technique used by lurers by tricking you into thinking you can profit from lures. These are always lures in themselves, and should be avoided. Remember the golden rule- never drop your items.
Types of luresEdit
There are many types of lures; the three main being Wilderness Luring, Clan Wars Luring and Drop Luring.
Wilderness LuringEdit
The A LureEdit
The A lure was a unique lure method that made use of the Annakarl teleport on the Ancients spellbook. Victims were required to be on the ancient spell book, and were given a bunch of random items. The lurers would tell the victims to send them a trade request, and then the lurer would make the victim be on the magic tab (before they accepted the trade). So, the victim would have the magic tab up, then the lurer accepts the trade and demands that the victim gives back the items in the same order. When the victim got to the 16th item slot, the lurer would decline the trade. For this lure to work, the player must be clicking the 16th inventory spot as the lurer declines the trade, because once the trade closes, the tab that was just the inventory (during the trade) switches back to the ancients tab. The 16th inventory spot lines up perfectly with the "A" teleport on the ancients tab, so the player would accidently click it and teleport to deep wilderness with their expensive items. This method of accidental clicking worked similarly to the Key lure. This lure no longer works.
Wilderness luring an old lure style seen in RuneScape. It is when a player (lurer) brings another player (victim) to the Wilderness and immediately kills them; receiving their loot. A lurer usually brings a victim to the Wilderness with a variety of methods; for example: Revenants, faking a drop party, or selling/buying an item for a ridiculously low/high price. The lurer usually creates an excuse for trading in the Wilderness, depending on the location. For example, if a lurer is east of the Edgeville bridge, the lurer will usually say that he's power-fletching or woodcutting trees. Another method of luring was using the RuneScape Official Forums, where the victim is buying or selling an expensive item.
The main flaws of Wilderness luring is that it is usually obvious that the lurer will kill the player and the lurer must ensure the item is stacked or cash. To ensure the specific item is dropped, a lurer usually lures players that are selling stacked items or are buying in cash. Stacked items or cash are lost no matter what, so this was used to the lurer's advantage. A different method to lure a player is lending an item to the victim, ensuring that their items/cash will be lost; leaving the lurer with the loot, except for the borrowed item in the victim's inventory.
Another type of Wilderness luring involves the lurer pretending to team up with the victim. Because teaming up in the Wilderness is very common, the victim usually does not suspect anything. The lurer usually gives an excuse for going deep into the Wilderness, such as "The guy we want to kill is there". Once in deep Wilderness, the lurer, chatting with the victim as if they're really teamed up, suddenly and abruptly attack (sometimes the lurer will lure the victim to a "high risk" world before attacking) the victim. Sometimes the victim can escape if they have a lot of food and if they have "run" turned on. However, the lurer succeeds most of the time, especially if they use Ranged or Magic, because they can still attack the victim while they are running away. This lure is more effective than the other Wilderness lure, particularly because in the first type, the victim may easily figure out that he is being lured, while this lure does not have any suspicious parts to it (until, of course, the lurer attacks). To prevent this, you should only team up with people you know, such as a real-life friend or relative, and if possible be with them in real life when entering the Wilderness, as you can ask in person for your items back if they do decide to kill you.
Another form of old Wilderness luring is the one where the lurer would tell the victim to switch to a German server, or a server with a different language the victim could not understand. The lurer would then teleport the victim to the deep Wilderness without the victim knowing because he or she could not understand that the lurer was teleporting them to the Wilderness, or just Camelot or a familiar city. When the victim mistakenly teleported, thinking it was the name of a familiar city, or the friendly city the lurer told the victim they were teleporting, they would then end up in the deep Wilderness where he would be killed by the lurer or a team of lurers, then after be looted for all the victim was worth.
Another form of Wilderness luring similar to the one above is where the lurer, after claiming to want to kill a player deep in the Wilderness, leads the unsuspecting player to a remote section of the Wilderness, where a gang of attackers (usually the lurer's friends) is waiting for them. They use freeze spells, making escaping almost impossible. After they kill the unsuspecting player, they often share the loot among themselves.
An older, common method of luring (usually for luring out of a safe area or into deeper wilderness) is for the lurer to offer a trade to a victim and then run out of the safe area. This causes the victim to run out of the safe area upon accepting the trade. This is used quite frequently in the Wilderness, so it is highly recommended to watch the person sending a trade offer, and make sure they do not run out of a safe zone before accepting the trade. If the lurer does run to a danger zone, the lure can be avoided simply by not accepting the trade offer.
Another form of luring is ask a player to show the way to, for example, the Forinthry Dungeon and then attack them on the way.
Snowball LureEdit
This lure was patched on 20 October, 2013. A newer, and much less common type of luring, dubbed the Snowball Lure, has arisen that is only prevalent amongst players with higher Quest Points and completed Temple at Senntisten. A player may ask for help provided the person being lured does not pay attention to what is being asked for can be lured into the fort via the safe entrance to the Ghorrock Fortress. The lurer will strike a conversation, ask for help on a less-memorable quest, and then have the target teleport to Rellekka with them. They will then enter the fort via the canoe. Provided the target does not realise what is happening, they can be lured past the ice block barricades into the fortress, where they cannot re-enter the safe fortress area if they are in combat.
Chinchompa LureEdit
This lure was discontinued with the release of EoC and the removal of wilderness skulls. However, the lure now works due to the reinstatement of wilderness skulls in the Legacy update. In this lure, a player will walk around the Grand Exchange, asking others if they would like to participate in a player killing video for YouTube. He will then choose a random person (the victim), and his own friend. The victim will think that the lurer's friend is a random person as well. The scammer will wear some relatively expensive items, and ask the other two to do the same. He might even lend an item to the victim (The protect item prayer automatically keeps a lent item first). At any rate, all three will enter the wilderness with some expensive items. The scammer then trades each player a few Chinchompas, which attack everything within one square of a target. The scammer and his friend will step within one space of victim. Having made sure everyone is wielding chinchompas and has Auto-retaliate on, the scammer will then attack then victim. He will automatically attack back, and the attack will spread to the friend. This counts as attacking a player, and the victim will immediately become skulled. Then, the scammer and his friend will double-team the victim, killing him. Because he is skulled, the player will not keep any of his items. The scammers will take the items and teleport out.
Wilderness Trade Lure/Money Pouch LureEdit
This scam entails luring the victim into deep Wilderness like the Deserted Keep and persuading the victim to purchase a rare for a cheap price. As soon as the victim withdraws his or her money from the money pouch, he or she will be unable to put it back and will subsequently get killed for it.
Wilderness WallEdit
In an attempt to fight combat luring, Jagex constructed a ditch that had to be climbed over to reach the Wilderness. On 15 September 2010, the Wilderness ditch became a wall, due to aesthetic issues with z-buffering.
Clan Wars LuringEdit
Red Portal LureEdit
Clan Wars, specifically Red Portal luring, is one of the most popular methods of luring. It is a lure having to do with the dangerous portal at Clan Wars. The lure involves a lurer or a talker who persuades someone to pass the safety line in the red portal usually by dropping a large amount of coins. They will instruct you to run inside and pick up the cash, but (s)he has the sole intention of attacking and killing you as soon as you run in. Doing so will result in being attacked by another high-level player hidden north who uses Ice Barrage or other ice spells followed by various stunning abilities like Impact and Destroy and losing all your valuables upon death. Another way of luring is to tell the victim to use Telekinetic grab on the coins or high valued items. When using the spell the character will automatically walk to it, thus passing the safety line.
Purple Portal LureEdit
There is also another type of lure commonly found in the Purple portal section of Clan Wars. In this type of lure, there's always an ancient mage or ranger with some wealth and good gear and most importantly, a low-level lurer. Like the aforementioned Red portal lure, you'll be befriended and persuaded by this lurer into Clan Wars with the intention of anti-luring someone, which will turn out to be the lurer's friend in the end. Your so-called friend will challenge the second lurer and send you to your ultimate doom. You'll face some high-level mages who use Ice Barrage and/or other freezing spells and stun abilities to quickly kill you in seconds with no food or Prayer. They'll get all your carried wealth and split it among them.
The Peach LureEdit
This lure took place in the since removed peach portal. The backbone of this lure is relying on the victim believing that they are safe upon entering the peach portal, as once a game starts players have 5 minutes before combat can begin. The victim is told that they are anti luring, and only have to step into the purple portal right at the beginning to show that they have their expensive item(s). Keep in mind that the first 2 minutes are safe, and a player can enter for a few seconds and exit once again via the portal. The victim thinks that they will enter, show their rare items, and then exit and bank them to ensure that they are not lured. However, the victim joins the friends chat of one of the killers. The trick of this lure is that the friendchat of the killer started a game long before, and a team is waiting right at the entrance to kill the player instantly upon entering.
Multi luring was one of the most popular methods of luring before the Evolution of Combat. It was when a person was lured into multi-combat Wilderness or the dangerous red or Purple portals, and was then killed by one or more people using Dragon daggers and other weapons that are capable of quickly doing damage, such as the Dark bow. For example, one square south of the Wilderness wall near the Grand Exchange shortcut was a multi-combat area, so people were often seen in that area with Dragon spears, who would then use the special attack to push an unsuspecting player into multi-combat, where they would then be killed by the person with the player's team.
Monster LuringEdit
Monster luring is a type of lure where a player attracts an aggressive monster to another player and kills them. This is most commonly seen in the Dagannoth King lair, a very dangerous place where level 303 Dagannoth Kings lie. Serious Dagannoth King hunters usually bring a Guthans set to extend their time spent on the Dagannoth Kings. Since a player will always lose a Guthan's warspear out of an entire Guthan's set, a successful lure will rack in a large sum of money for the lurer. Although Dagannoth Kings are the most commonly seen, the same principle applies for other high-levelled monsters.
Another highly common form of monster luring was at the apes on Ape Atoll. Normally this was done on a low-level player who would find it tricky to kill an ape fast. The lurer would tell the player to go up the bamboo ladder because of an "update" there was now an altar up there. When the player went up there and found no altar, the player came back down the ladder and was surrounded by about 4 or 5 apes. Since you could not walk through the apes, and a player could only climb up one side of the ladder, the player was stuck. This form of luring was almost impossible to get reported for since there was no detailed proof that the lurer did anything wrong.
Luring monsters is one method in which players have been known to kill bots.
Other LuresEdit
Another place for luring is in the Ranging Guild. Someone may say that they are buying feathers or raw chicken for large amounts of money and a victim will go out to the chicken farm to get it. The lurer lures the unsuspecting player into the minigame area and brings them to the high level rangers. All three enemy archers are aggressive and may attack a player at once. The lurer goes by, but not into, the high-level area and tells the victim to trade. When they try to trade, and the victim is in range of the level 64 archers, they can hit in the one hundreds for life points and could kill a player if they aren't suspecting it.
Another lure involves simply placing bait, such as a stack of coins or some valuable item, in low-level Wilderness. When the victim goes for it, the lurer attacks him/her. It is believed that this is not against Jagex's rules, because it does not involve lying.
In another lure, the lurer tells the victim to take the Wine of Zamorak (often a lower level player). When the victim does so, the monks of Zamorak attack the victim.
Drop LuringEdit
Drop luring is the most common lure type today. This involves getting a player to first drop their item, and secondly to remove that player from their item. Although there have been various methods of drop luring, only the most is notable are listed below. While this type of scam has its roots in the old House Table Dupe Scam, it only became a majorly performed lure style following the Dung Lure.
Spam LureEdit
This Lure has been patched as of 2 February 2015 however there are different versions of this lure, the most popular spot being the 2 fountains behind the wall of southeast Grand Exchange. The lure involves a player dropping an item near a corner and trading the lurer for a high sum of cash. The lurer would then stall the trade for 10-20 seconds and during that time 2-3 people would log in, place a marker plant or clan vexillium on your item and use the familiar interface option to (call pet) their pet multiple times resulting in your right click function being disabled. The looters were able to pick up the item by logging in where the victim dropped their item, drop any staff and pick up the item that the victim had dropped. This lure was strictly used for rares or noted items of high value as any large item could be picked up.
Dungeoneering lureEdit
This scam involved the use of the wilderness, Daemonheim, and trust. A player (the triple agent) will tell the victim that they are doing an anti-scam, to essentially scam a scammer. The player will tell the victim they are luring the scammer to them. The scammer will have the victim teleport to Daemonheim and bank everything but one or two valuables. Then they will take them to the Daemonheim wilderness gate. The scammer will invite the victim to a Dungeoneering party, the triple agent says this is so they can see the victim drop items. The triple agent will say they have a method of stealing items from the scammer, who will drop them. The scammer will ask the victim to drop the valuables on the safe side, and then they will drop their items in the wild. The triple agent leads the victim to believe that their items are not at risk since they are on the safe side and can be quickly picked up. THIS IS UNTRUE! The trick of the scam is that the scammer has a friend on the safe side. The triple agent will say they are lying in wait to grab the victim's items, BUT THEY ARE NOT. When the victim drops his/her items, the scammer's friend starts a dungeon. And the victim is taken to a dungeon. The scammer and triple agent then are free to pick up his items..
The Key LureEdit
The Key Lure is located at the hill giant hut. The scammer will approach you with an item of some wealth and offer it to you for free. They then proceed to take you to the Hill giant house and to trade you a brass key and a lot of items. The scammer aims to make you forget about the brass key in the items and drop your item of wealth in the house and buy the items and key back for less value than yours. If successful the scammer buys the brass key and you get locked out of the house leaving the scammer free to go in and pick up the item you just dropped. The Key Lure can easily be Anti-Lured by pretending to drop your items of value inside the Hill giant house then quickly walking out and dropping your items outside of the Hill giant house. The lurer will then buy the key off you for a large sum of money thinking your items are inside the house. Once he handed over the money simply pick up your items.
The Badge LureEdit
The Badge Lure was a drop lure that made use of spamming an interface to prevent victims from picking up their items. Victims would join a clan, and would bring their expensive item to the clan camp. Through various methods of convincing, a victim would drop their item, and a lurer would trade them 28 hunter kits (or 27 hunter kits, and a valuable item such as a noted santa hat). Once the trade was accepted, one of the lurers involved would spam click 'distribute badge' on the badge item that is provided at clan camp. The resulting badge interface would appear to everyone in the clan, and when spammed it had a high priority over all other actions. So the victim was unable to get rid of the items in his inventory, move, or even log out. After 60 seconds, their item would appear and the lurers would pick it up. This lure has been patched, and the main exploiters were banned.
The Candle LureEdit
The Candle lure would take place in the room(s) that one obtains boots of lightness. This special properties of this room was that with a lit candle, you could enter the whole room and move about freely. However, with an unlit candle, the room is dark and you can only go a few spaces into it. So, the victim would be convinced that a lurer would try to make them drop in the back of the lit room. Then, according to the advice from a 'friend', the lurer would ask them to go up the stairs, and sell the lurer the candle for a large amount of money. So, in this fake telling of the scam, the lurer would expect the victim to drop in the back of the room, and once they sold their candle, they would not be able to reach the back of the room because of the darkness. So the 'friend' instructs the victim to just drop right at the steps while in the room, instead of at the back, as the lurer would not be in the room to check where he dropped. So, once again in this fake telling, the victim is planning to drop close to the stairs, go sell the candle for money, and be able to go down the stairs and loot his hats in the dark room. However, the trick to this lure is this: The light version of the room and the dark version are actually two separate rooms. It gives off the illusion that they are the same room, one is just darker, however they are different spaces in the game. So, once the player dropped their items in the light room, and sold their candle, they would arrive at an entirely different room upon re-entering. So in other words, their hats would be locked in the light room, and they don't have the candle to reach it.
The Bridge LureEdit
The Bridge Lure is a current scam that takes place in the dungeon from the Temple of Ikov quest. It is centred around a bridge that a player can only cross while having a negative weight. A victim is convinced to drop their item at the foot of the bridge, and then they go into a trade screen with a lurer. The victim gets money off the lurer to gain trust in this trade for dropping their hat. The victim is asked to run across the bridge once they have dropped their items, then run back across to the starting side to receive their reward. However, since you cannot cross the bridge unless you have a negative weight, clicking across the river will result in the victim falling off to the side and being separated from their item. Lurers don't tend to use this lure as the chance of being anti-lured is big. However, now people tend to use the gnomeball to give you a non-negative weight by clicking Use on you after declining trade, thus rendering all anti-luring impossible.
Lumberyard LureEdit
The Lumberyard Lure occurs northeast of Varrock, at the Sawmill. The aim is to deceive a player to drop his items in an area requiring special circumstances for entrance. These include level eighty woodcutting, no logs, imp jars, summoning familliars, planks. The victim is influenced to drop his items behind the door east, leading into the sawmill training area. A player is expecting to exit the area afterwards, and receive a hefty monetary reward, returning to collect his belongings afterwards. However, upon trading with the lurer, inventory is filled with non-permitted items. Any attempts to re-enter the closed area will result into a failure.
Bank Vault Lure Edit
This lure existed in the early days of Runescape, when many new players knew little about computers or the mechanics of the game. The lurer would convince players to accompany them into the basement of the west bank in Varrock. There they would insist on knowing a way to get into the vault. This typically consisted of having the victim type their password, and then press ALT+F4 or CTRL+W, thereby closing the game window, which would take too long to reopen to prevent the lurer from logging in and stealing the victim's account. Alternately, the lurer might tell the victim that dropping a valuable item, and then either logging out, or using a window closing command, would allow them to enter. Of course it didn't and the lurer would walk away with the victim's valuables.
Burthorpe Warrior's Guild LureEdit
This lure is a common - uncommon lure used typically against people wearing expensive items. The lure involves two scammers, with the second only coming into play when retrieving the victim's items. The first scammer will offer you a large sum of gold for free, but ask you to show them the contents of your inventory or equips. The scammer will then ask you to bank everything but your valuables (primarily party hats and crackers), and invite you to a warriors guild. The scammer will offer to trade the sum of gold promised before, but ask you to drop your party hat inside of the guild. After dropping, you will both go outside. The scammer will ask you to consume a stat-lowering potion, effectively removing your ability to re-enter the guild and retrieve your dropped items. The second scammer will now log in and pick up your valuables from the guild.
There have been many questions as to whether luring is bannable or not. There have been no confirmed cases where players have been banned for luring and there were also many messages from Jagex that said luring was not bannable. On 29 March 2007, Jagex updated Rule 2 to make "Luring someone into the wilderness under false pretenses" a bannable offense. However with the re-release of the wilderness, this is no longer necessarily true, although there has also been cases in which certain J-Mods claimed luring is a bannable offence. In addition, several J-mods have stated that luring is "against the spirit of the game", and have disallowed threads encouraging it on the forums, but Jagex has never officially listed luring as a bannable offense.
Though several have said that there has been no evidence of lurers being banned, videos do exist of J-Mods directly banning lurers, supposedly wiping their banks.


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Kevin Durant wrestles a loose ball away from the Laker's Ron Artest. Durant was 11-15 from the field and scored 31 points during the Thunder's 14-point win over the Lakers.
Kendrick Perkins extends his arm out to get a hand in the face of the Lakers' Kobe Bryant while driving through the paint.
Serge Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins close in on the Lakers' Pau Gasol.
Nick Collison finished a back-door cut with an easy slam for two points.
Kendrick Perkins gets his hand on the shot of the Lakers' Lamar Odom.
Kevin Durant dribbles past the defending Kobe Bryant. Kevin Durant scored a team-high 31 points.
Serge Ibaka draws contact on the arm from the Lakers' Matt Barnes. Ibaka finished with 15 points and three blocked shots.
Thabo Sefolosha softly puts the ball in off the glass. Sefolosha scored nine points in the Thunder win.
Kevin Durant and Kobe Bryant during a Sunday night matchup at the Staples Center. Each scored 31 points (game-highs) in the Thunder's 120-106 win.
Serge Ibaka looks to block a shot of the penetrating Kobe Bryant. Serge Ibaka finished with three blocks.
Thabo Sefolosha finishes a fastbreak with a two-handed jam early in the first quarter.
Russell Westbrook pulls up for a jumper in front of the Lakers' Derek Fisher. Westbrook finished with 26 points, seven assists and six reboudns.
Kendrick Perkins gets physical as he battles in the post against the Lakers' Pau Gasol.
Serge Ibaka and Ron Artest battle for position during the Thunder's 120-106 win in the Staples Center.
Kendrick Perkins reacts late in the fourth quarter of the Thunder's win in Los Angeles.
Nate Robinson shakes the hand of actor Will Ferrell prior to the Thunder's game against the Lakers.
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Taste of Home recipe for Prosciutto Chicken Kebabs
From now until Oct. 1, when The News-Gazette and News-Gazette Community Newspapers are hosting the Taste of Home Cooking School at The Vineyard Church in Urbana, I'm going to share recipes here from Taste of Home on my blog and in my column.
Today's recipe is for Prosciutto Chicken Kebabs, a grilled appetizer with an avocado dip. This recipe is provided by Taste of Home and serves six with two kebobs per serving.
I hope to see you at the cooking school!
Prosciutto Chicken Kebabs
3/4 cup five-cheese Italian salad dressing
1/4 cup lime juice
2 teaspoons marinade for chicken
1/2 pound boneless skinless chicken breasts, cut into 3-by-1/2-inch strips
12 thin slices prosciutto
24 fresh basil leaves
Avocado Dip
2 medium ripe California avocados, peeled
1/4 cup minced fresh cilantro
2 green onions, chopped
2 tablespoons lime juice
2 tablespoons mayonnaise
1 1/2 teaspoons prepared horseradish
1 garlic clove, minced
1/4 teaspoon salt
In a large resealable plastic bag, combine the salad dressing, lime juice and marinade for chicken; add chicken. Seal bag and turn to coat; refrigerate for one hour.
Drain and discard marinade. Fold prosciutto slices in half; top each with two basil leaves and a chicken strip. Roll up jelly-roll style, starting with a short side. Thread onto metal or soaked wooden skewers.
Grill, covered, over medium heat or broil 4 inches from the heat for 5 minutes on each side or until chicken is no longer pink.
Meanwhile, in a small bowl, mash the avocados. Stir in the cilantro, onions, lime juice, mayonnaise, horseradish, garlic and salt. Serve with kebabs.
Note: This recipe was tested with Lea & Perrins Marinade for Chicken.
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Detectives make arrest in stolen Eagle case
FORSYTH COUNTY, Ga. - A Forsyth County man has been arrested and charged with theft by receiving in connection with the theft of an eagle sculpture from the Big Creek Greenway.
Forsyth County Sheriff's investigators said Pedro Castro Garcia, 29, of Hwy. 9 North, Alpharetta, Ga. was charged Monday with theft by receiving stolen property.
Authorities arrested Garcia at his home before he was booked into the Forsyth County Detention Center.
The stolen statue was located Sept. 12 in a storage shed at Garcia's residence, investigators said. They said the statue was in good condition and was returned to Forsyth County Parks and Recreation on Friday.
The eagle statue, made of bronze and other metals, was reported stolen from the Big Creek Greenway trailhead off of Bethelview Road in south Forsyth County on Aug. 28.


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CMS Cameron McKenna has decided to close its last US outpost in Washington DC after radically downsizing the office in July this year.
CMS managing partner Dick Tyler told The Lawyer: "At the time we'd hoped to be able to restructure the office around the projects team servicing one particular piece of work. But we haven't been able to retain the personnel we'd need to do that job."
The original restructure would have left the office with six staff, but within weeks it became clear that the office would not be viable in that form. It will close at the end of this month.
Last week two former Camerons US partners, Joel Zipp and Greg Williams resurfaced at Bracewell & Patterson.
Camerons' Toronto office is now the firm's only presence in North America.


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CONGRATULATIONS to Ian Borgeson, who is the May winner of the TGR Grom Contest, getting himself a sweet GoPro set up. ot only that, he is now in with a chance (obviously we think he is the best and so therefor will no doubt take the prize) of filming with TGR next winter.
Not only that, but Ian is now in the reserve list for the WORLD HELI CHALLENGE in New Zealand, so although we don't wish anything bad on anyone, we do wish that for some reason the present candidate can't go and we will see Ian being dropped out of a heli with the world's best – pretty awesome way to spend your summer holidays.
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Art Chicago announced last week that Shepard Fairey, street artist and creator of the iconic HOPE poster for Barack Obama's 2008 campaign, both seen below, will show at Art Chicago (4/29-5/2) and creating a special installation for it.
Unfortunately I don't know what Fairey will come up with, the press release for the event only describes it as "a special project space in partnership with exhibitor Robert Berman Gallery."
And again there will be sculpture installed outside of the Merchandise Mart, the site of the event, with 16 pieces planned to be on view.
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We discuss the team's desire to retain Stephen Drew, and what that means for Will Middlebrooks and Xander Bogearts.
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And then you gamble with your wife as soon as you went to Detroit that is enough -- Also true it was a once you've heard -- gamble with your low low blow open accurate. Why not. It tickets at prices safest place in Detroit there's no guns allowed in the deceive -- that -- son door that said no firearms and other -- they were very careful to prescribe addicts -- well Chris somebody's all a pretty far maybe because this -- firearms all over the devil's advocate that the problem made an outline all of those things are are potentially teachers that we talked to John -- yesterday. Just try to get a sense as to what does Red Sox team is gonna look like there's a lot of questions. Stephen Drew was a big when Jarrod Saltalamacchia is a big -- -- we've addressed those we can continue to be guys jump in here 6177797937. That the quote they kind of made it beyond our show and and was played elsewhere. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- But I want him to be my shortstop next year what does that do for the other two guys who were young and and need playing time either at shortstop. Or third base depending without a middle Brooks of Bogart's so. How how you work this out if you want true. You loved Bogart's which I would imagine you do just like I do right that what are you thinking about on the over how he can be happy about the feelings -- -- -- Well -- I wanna say this this -- Stephen Drew things one of the best romances. They're professionals law. It's like when Tito Tito and Pedroia play were originally I'm more it is it has to mean this is -- -- majority at least you can explain it. -- because everybody likes got a great MVP. MVP player all star player gold Glover personality. Stephen Drew. Don't very good defensive player but nobody's all star nobody's MVP girls talk about I was like all chit chatting and I also -- -- political resort. Banality Stephen couldn't be any different any more different. Vin and JD -- Stephens. He's a lot of fun to be around but their time -- say Stephen and -- he talks so much really all my gosh it's completely different than JD. And not to say one is -- or the other or right or wrong there's a talker often jurists that drew is a big time talker -- with a lot of fun to be Rahm actually. I just a great time I just thought the -- was weird like it was going it was talked about it it's weird how this. John Wayne figure in John -- just started blushing as soon as he enters -- let it doesn't affect anybody doesn't affect the development of Bogart Bogart is going to be you'll probably going to spring training with the with the with third base being his job to lose. I don't think he's gonna lose it based on what I saw Bogart's Bogart president noticed I wasn't journal nature are so yeah Bogart's if he's gonna wanna spring training with that -- third base. Stephen Drew. It's probably coming back here as a starting shortstop so what you have is well -- Brooks either back in Tripoli. Will meadowbrook on the bench. Just in case disaster strikes in you have to move. Bogart to short and you have middle Brooks -- their worries which is a -- -- I think it's very it's very clear. That. This is not really affecting the development Bogart in I don't know if you know do people think that. -- Brooks is a short thing he needs to play every day I don't feel that way is anybody else. I don't think is a shore thing but he's definitely intriguing I mean I don't know that his value is as high as it has been. At its peak and off his values as high as it could be pure play him for a little bit and then and then deal once he started playing well. That's he would give it it was a fantasy league. You would start will middle Brooks at the beginning of the year instead of Bogart's hoped that he played well the first month. And then do you want to somebody could use the help that's you do and fantasy league. Of course bench and doesn't get to live in that innocently he's got a deal in reality and I don't think playing the kid for a month and then dealing him. It is going to maximizes value to you deal in the off season. Or you're probably gonna have when your team next year now. We talked earlier about a bit earlier maybe a week or so ago. About whether or not. He's he's your blocking guys like middle Brooks withdrew. And I guess the time I didn't consider the one other alternative which is just come back to -- like you mentioned that there why not. As the 2427. Develop to where guys not about to be a rule five guy. If he didn't exactly bathe himself in glory in the post season you can absolutely just. Triple value he would hated him and it's so washed public are adolescents and that's the only downside is it's. You're asked a chance and most people tell me get a taste of of of the Major League Baseball not just the game but the lifestyle. And then you go back to record stadium and after spending your time at Fenway Park -- win the World Series you're on the field you're celebrating their teammates. As they win the World Series you're on the duck boats parading through Boston two million people. Cheering you waving at you and then next year in April. You're back in pocket so it's a downer but in terms of this player's development. Public use one more year of seasoning. It's it's a tough one because of what we say about all guys. We're going from Tripoli to the majors. Well you don't see those kind of pitchers had those kind of pitches at AAA. We gonna have to adjust the Major League level there's certain things that he won't be able to get at a Tripoli he just gonna have to. Remember what he saw at the Major League level it's gonna have to be able to correct. The holes in his swing without actually giving. Daily practice the -- Tripoli pits and don't have that repertoire of major leaguers do kind of he's gonna get any better tripling I don't know if he's going to improve on Paula because -- was -- that's right I don't know if he's going to turn himself in and fix any of the holes and his swing -- I don't I don't know that any of those things are gonna happen I just not sure I care. To me it's not about going down -- from more seasoning I think he's proven what he needs to prove with the AAA level middle -- I just think came and sorry the other kids better right now and -- use in a pinch if it turns out the Napoli gets hurt or is ineffective or whatever maybe you come up play some first base it Bogart's doesn't play all that well then maybe come -- place and third base it drew gets hurt which he's been prone to doing his time. As a major leaguer then Mabel move ball -- too short you can come up and play third but to start the year. You're gonna start AAA and I'm sorry you don't like that but that's what that's our right is the organization that Texas is a -- or drew I would excuse me government -- -- -- -- -- No no no I wouldn't. And that's one thing -- can say a bottom and everybody else and his team last year Arnold's gonna continue for 2014. But nobody came out and complained about their role whether with Daniel Nava. Or real middle Brooks or -- anybody who had a job loss salty. Anybody who had a job and lost it. That really wasn't the dynamic of this team they're -- he's the only guy did any complaining when he went and that was sent down to -- and they still ended up bringing him back up he was fine when he got here and then they got value from a -- traded -- -- why middle -- would be any different six point 77797937. Talked about the left side of the infield -- -- -- W -- Are taking your calls your talking Red Sox 6177797937. This offseason is going to be a fascinating -- there. A good team obviously they're coming off wired wired nearly a wire wire victory they go to the World Series they win it. There are things to do but there's a -- to do they don't need to be re shaped or anything. We now know a little bit more about the way this organization wants to handle free agency they don't wanna spend a lot of money in terms of long term deals for big money contracts. And yet. They have money as a franchise they can afford to do some things they can afford to make some mistakes especially on short term deals and overpay which is one of the reasons. You see the fourteen million dollar qualifying offer out there Stephen tomorrow. I just I'm I'm fascinated by the way they're going to continue to build on this thing how much. They really like the team they had this year and how much this team was ahead of schedule. They weren't really supposed to be World Series champions so did they trust that they're on the right track order they CIA. We were doing this for the short term but our plan was always to move on from this guy eventually and so now we're ready to do it because we've got the right player. We think he's going to be out there and free agency or whatever and at some of that would relate to Stephen Drew some of it is Jacoby Ellsbury. I don't see anyway I in my mind go meals reaches moderates he is somewhere else next year. I think has written them off yeah I think I agree review. Based on the numbers based on what than what it will take this article real suburban. Look I'm asking the question. I'm asking. Of people who. Expect to go -- -- come -- one and come back are they people who do not pay attention to this dollars structure whatsoever in baseball. Order they look at it and say I don't care. Don't care what the numbers that can be seven million a year fifteen million a year 25 million dollars a year I don't care -- the Boston Red Sox you have money you have high ticket prices you've gotten us in. You've gotten memorabilia you've got all this stuff he got by got bricks. That I bought you got two wars that are going on at the ballpark right now bring back to Kobe Ellsbury are you in that category. Because if you are understand and to recover from I disagree with him but I understand. I'm looking at it from just the realities of a Major League Baseball team. That looks that he 830 year old player who I love them -- I'm a huge mobiles -- fan so that many times in academy say are not gonna sound to a seven year. 160. Million dollar contract is not happening so he's gone. That's how I look at just he's just not gonna be here just I think he and his agent wants so much money that this organization is not gonna be willing to give -- Because of their insistence on not overpaying for long term deals. I kind of don't blame them you can understand that unless you believe that that guy is is going to be a slugger a hard departments lager that is going to be a cornerstone of your offense. For the entirety of that contract and as much as I like Ellsbury right now. A thirty year old speedy guy is not somebody that I really want to overpay for 617. 77979. -- seven especially long term I'll go to Mike in Framingham I'm Mike. They got it just wanted to say that. Yeah we're talking Mike Napoli and through our heart definitely going to be back here. And I don't need evidence about. A couple of reasons. We don't know what their motivations are not to a computer and you also represented by. Or so earlier registered brother was. His represented by Boris plastered to his here one year did not have known him he's gonna have to show that he can make more than fourteen million -- -- tomorrow and then also Mike you know that the draft pick. That's that's the reason I am convinced that. Electric could be wrong you're absolutely right you think we could be wrong in this I am convinced that no team is gonna give up big draft pick. For Stephen Drew and notes it is gonna give up a draft pick for my nap in the amount of money necessary to -- not that that's just my guess -- I keep -- -- can be often. But that's a good point in the -- are fixed definitely Europe are an important factor but I say if you have a team. You know look it's a player away. In their minds and a guy who -- -- you know at 25 to thirty homers and a little under undue respect if that's because they've built in a local operatives you do it for now. Yeah and you know particular around the league shortstop position. It's it's not -- to -- ten years ago there where. There's no more Nomar Garciaparra. Greater. -- No Mike you're right I just I don't know that anybody's gonna spend them and I think they're two separate cases with with the case of Napoli I think he in the Red Sox are gonna work out a deal that's always been my opinion that it'll be short deal struck in me -- 52 years dirty doing exactly that they'll they'll. Conclusion that is something. Akin to what he would have gotten in the original three years 39 a million dollar deal where they give them the rest of it in -- -- Web site or somebody comes -- snapped a four year. I would guess guard customs and go ahead do it it happens and it can I don't I don't -- years given sixteen million dollars and you give up the draft pick sure for Napoli at 31. I'd just cut it's it's possible I think I'm likely though. Tiger the American I would say it's not a bad deal to come up. Yeah that's right. I think I -- that's why -- about why we're talking the way we're talking of course we don't know it's not a done deal. It's just I think beat the odds are that I think Napoli will be back we'll find out. And as for drew I think he'll be back on the qualifying offer deal for one more year things are not sure that I see somebody offering -- more money than that long term deal. And giving up the draft pick to get him and he had a good year. He was what the fifth or sixth best offensive shortstop. Yeah he was a very solid defense of shortstop a minute there's there's no reason that teams would run away from him but. I don't know that a very likes him as much as John Farrell does he makes them geek. Yeah he absolutely does -- whenever there's a weak in the knees slap them like Tyler -- quarterback who had a host techsters are protectors on. On the ATP text -- pointed out about that approximate. The guys had about 600 bat in his Major League career -- -- in 600 bet it's what the tax wrote. He has 32 home runs and 103 RBIs -- that's the good news. The other part of the story is. Eight to 94 on base percentage a 254 batting average. Slugging percentage of 462. -- yes the 756. Are not great. On on any of those numbers so the Texas pointers a look at the what he's done in limited time there's also by two strikeouts in there as -- 116 strikeouts and and just over 600 bet. That whole lot he's a talented player but with some obvious question marks about -- it's not like. It's not like you're the bomb I don't think anybody saying get rid of them does that he has no value does have value his value. Either is every -- -- for the Red Sox. As a first baseman if you don't have Napoli back as -- first baseman that you can live with that you can grow that he's a young Napoli. I guess that would be the span of Napoli leaves they will -- Brooks can grow into that role. Or do you happen under control that's valuable. And you haven't AAA until something happens I think. Meet the fact he's under control is the best part there's nothing he can deal with -- -- -- to triple what is he going to do about it John -- we asked him about it yesterday and I thought is his thoughts on middle Brooks were fairly revealing you know -- little -- week. Granite -- we recognize that the up and down year that he had but it's also got him I think 2728. Home runs combined. There's a little bit -- swing and -- there his his offensive. Profile may be a little bit different some than some other. Over other guys. But is still were always gonna side on the ability to build those deeper roster of possible in effect creates a little redundancy at least in the short term. Oh were were more than accepting of that because the depth of our roster this year allowed us to overcome some of those injuries. He's giving you all the answers for it there he's telling you their line of thinking their philosophy redundancy is not a bad thing for them so what -- Bogart's in drew in middle -- they don't mind that depth is what helped them win. They're counting on one of those guys either getting hurt or not playing up to what you believe he's capable of so why wouldn't you have three guys for two spots when you can afford to do so until those guys are making no money yeah it was a no brainer from their perspective -- sister's gonna get a three year 36 million dollar deal from the Mets. If that happens how good -- that happens. He goes through -- You get the pick. And the -- sort totally grey area is it good good luck to you Stephen if you get -- take the second round -- can be happy if on the Boston Red Sox to a 7779. 7937. Nick is in New Hampshire what's going on -- Hey I don't guys that -- -- want to call you -- her about a month now and you're great you're trading that it. Whether the Clinton no brainer that Jake Peavy was going to be the man. The guy you know -- and a little more dominant player out -- -- -- your way I have a very ought to agree with you. But -- -- called in the -- that trade and we're going to be the next we have reached -- now I'm 47 years old Louis -- your -- I remember the baseball cards I don't remember the player. I do remember. -- and then Gonzales and -- great shortstop at a plate here that in my opinion. Aren't local channel to a -- is you can't say. That is that stock because he had a very -- bat in the playoffs you what you got the Red Sox. The play out. So I held I held he held a million how much the gracious Camara. Why I don't know I don't know how much he's working you don't have to. I get the Red Sox and have to make that decision until. You're right. The Red Sox. Iglesias helped the Red Sox get to the playoffs the -- Jake -- -- just like you mentioned peavy and then -- and then you didn't mention again you don't Vicki helped them get to the playoffs. We're ready when I'm thinking he went with Boston and whatnot and I'm not saying that they hate the war weren't they weren't -- counted the winner the winner but but. I'm looking at the long term here and I don't mean to direct talks will comply. A World Series every year on the did and I'm 47 and we're a long time to get one World Series that he -- -- and I don't want him become the New York Yankees. I can't argue with our level and our party was -- -- -- out of -- I -- tell you admit that happened before you know it happened before -- -- urged him to -- the Red Sox -- the New York -- like more -- like in. Then let's say just -- why I don't like this are so this is the -- -- -- 15060. Sure under seventy human. 179 dollars. So I'm under thinking that the Red Sox would have been better off. And any deeper into they now that appear to be a lot better pitcher who has been in a regular season. -- of the things that John -- just told -- the redundancy and remember the whole thing of what happened in 2011 when guys got hurt and the pitching rotation collapsed down the stretch because they didn't have another guy imagine Dempster making some of the starts that peavy did either in the post season or in the regular and there's a lot of reasons and then the whole idea that they're going to be completely screwed without Jose Iglesias for the future because shortstop as is is impossible to find in this and the -- haven't they won three World Series and the last ten years with three different short stops. Yeah all three of whom nobody really cared for. For the first time Orlando Cabrera was only here for a few months and let him go the second time it was Lugo who everybody hated it and the third time it was Stephen Drew always busy dodging darts on a daily basis from most of the Boston crowd during his at bats. So I think it broke go to account you want to Shin -- -- -- -- Well he's pretty. All right. It does count -- of course Julio Lugo counts he won a championship. I understand all well images have a great shortstop for a long time defensively okay fine. But those guys are likely to find a good defensive shortening it a good but the shortstop or borrow and go -- Brendan Ryan I can -- can't hit worth a -- We go pick it for a year -- that you need. You can always find yeah I don't their logos -- -- he counts but he's not on that level of he doesn't get that description of a great defensive shortstop we are I don't think he -- -- you -- right yeah championships -- the guy you've -- -- -- -- seated a couple of times here but three times. In the last what six years six or seven years you've seen the Red Sox with. -- either an -- or very good defensive shortstop. That would be Stephen Drew who's very good was but he was the lead the playoffs when he was going to the regulars arrogant. You've got Iglesias. Who was -- leaked. And you had Gonzales who easily. What I mean it's it's not eight once in twenty years -- hold on to this the that this asset you've got a hold onto you don't know. When you'll find another great effort to -- deputy if you don't know. At it one next there around man amended that position is out there can always find I think good defensive shortstop the question is can he hit an Iglesias did hit this year. I don't think he's going to do it long term. And I think the upside of what team needed with Jake Peavy made the whole thing completely went and I'll stand -- a satanic. The cardinals -- fundamentally and play on the road because different surface. I'd pick -- is exactly how a guy like because with 617779790%. And I'm glad GA is here in Newton because. You're bringing up the name the name I love the name I'm excited to talk about more this off season. I don't forget to get too deep into him today but I'm sure that his name come up over and over again the next couple months government. Aren't you talking about Stanton and I couldn't get horse. Okay I would carry them content that you you happen to that article today quote. I did Chad fend -- -- out they go out and get Stanton. By any means is that by any means except except to -- they -- -- out of it amen to that. Eric and I agree that can send a simple one thing that's why I'm gonna want to get your take on the that you mentioned in their. He's an offer any package of any of the farm including you know. Are all young pitchers do not realize the playoffs that absent the -- him. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- hit in the World Series between 200. And that art would have been nothing without the pitching stepping -- -- did and that you do not got your arms pitching look at camp has done. But they're young arms in a year. And -- in recent years and look at the Yankees after the depleted and have basically no pharmacists. To do we not learn anything. I got -- jail it. -- I gotta tell you that organized this creeping up to the pulpit. And in their past in the played around in richer you are preacher and you're -- to some good stuff I am I put them five dollars a plate right now you're absolutely right. Because if you look at the pitching that the Red Sox faced. Tropical season in the getting go. Eat -- Europe but not your first thought as well. It is pitching a little bit over rated it -- beat Tampa and Tampa has better pitch in the Red Sox so we heard. In Detroit had better pitching in the Red Sox so we heard so we dot and the cardinals get a lot of love for their pitching. But than you think about it more well the Red Sox are great pitching -- was right it was competitive with all of those teams and that's why and that's why. There was a great year last weekend or any other reason but that's a big element angry but you can't leave out the David Ortiz reason -- used the root out there as a qualifier will hold up a -- have a good lineup David Ortiz is not going to be here forever do we agree on that the data I don't want debit Ortiz at all and that -- Hold on an on ball -- who why do you think that the people so excited about John Carlos Stanton. And I -- he has the potential to be that David Ortiz for the next ten years that's why why delicately that. I love stand I think he's I think he's a heck of -- -- you can be unbelievable to I think he's going to be. A big -- in any second highest average in the history -- Probably I don't know who don't he's got his go to shot as the -- tell -- that I don't know I don't who -- -- better and I and I know I know he played on I'd just a dreadful team last year and how much around on and on and on and on. What are you at 240. 240 this year to forty and -- eating cracked 250 probably in the interest of equal time. Maybe and editor from The Herald on checking in here on AT&T -- -- and that articles and -- surrogates go OK there was an article in The Herald. By Scott Barbara -- was on Giancarlo Stanton. There's an article in the globe today by Chad Finn. On and Carlos -- everybody. Both papers -- talking about Giancarlo. Your voice Stanton did hit 249 this year data out of 49 PS only 45 and and last year and OPS of 969 at the age of 22 this year was 23 years old. And a terrible team puts capital PS before -- -- -- there's some base gives catalogs. I mean it close on closes on base percent on base percentage this year was 365. Slugging percentage was four. For last year a -- and last year six -- let a lead -- -- that it was six by 37 that earlier before that it was five both enemy had three straight years over 500 and the issue when the team is just wolf fool. The it was just four. And I also don't like it hit okay you know but he he can hit an adult like with young players fear 125 -- injury -- Oh boy. It's something and is something you have to watch and something has probably got a trio you for the rest your career now there have been some have been some cases very rare cases. Where a guy just -- kept getting injured and injured early in his career and then. At some point he figured it out. And -- went on to. Great heights and went on the whole thing right a Pall mall owners the guy comes to mind yet it. One half of his career was. If only can stay on the field calves and your -- if only just in the field. And then all of a sudden at the age what 3132. He figured it out and he's all will be senator -- him until next doesn't happen to a right -- -- -- will be saying I am glad we also have I mentioned Danny Amendola now I have there haven't I just keep dig in my -- haven't been any sarcastic remarks about Danny Amendola and -- your point about stand while I completely understand recovered from a just think of the reward. A potentially having that next great middle of the order hitter is worth the considerable risk -- and Hartford I kept. I don't get it. It if they can't just let the earlier -- -- -- -- -- people forget. He dissect common than the national -- a week early. OK. But how. Not sure about that it is a weaker league got it. A lot clock clocked it at present at the quality pitches he let it it actually. The actual. Also play I'll supply and a hundred lost in their chairman are such a I had I had can't. I -- -- edit edit edit art is. -- ironed out at the apple web app and -- part. -- -- -- -- -- There's -- elect had to bet Fenway park at Hubert. And it. It destroyed out there are left handed -- Fenway Park in a Jacoby Ellsbury left at about Fenway Park minorities. Quite a home run hitter that was never averaged 32 run average. You know I got it out apple. He's not a left handed out right about it I bet that. Very. Ordering it to say you want only left handed bats the only one -- and that's what he wants like you are right -- that I want I want. OK -- accurate it's what he's so upset about stance towards a great right handed perhaps. -- is upset about being. It's not about the National League canceled his upset about it a lot of things it's exhausting various settings being in Hartford scanners make a 129. 29 year old and it's salty as the extra. Early and -- talk about a thirty. Somewhere in there and he's there he's 29 of thirty would you might only forty out of the guys are. Fore check his birth certificate I'm not entirely sure how old Brian McCann look out we're not done talking about John Carlos -- my guess is his name come up a lot this off season. I think -- chip on the Red Sox and you're not doing your due diligence on him that you're making a mistake it doesn't mean you pull the trigger necessarily you got to know the details of the trade. But you have to keep the tires on -- -- higher -- -- -- you have to take it very seriously because the idea of a player like that there are many that are going to be giving you never get -- Bryce -- not gonna happen. You're not gonna get trapped those names are not going to be available the fact it's Stanton actually might be means you've got welders are generally editor's note. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --


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